OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
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WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.[Landmark Commission on December 2, 2024.]
TODAY IS MONDAY, DECEMBER 2ND AND THE TIME IS 4:00.WE WILL START THE MEETING OFF WITH ATTENDANCE.
CONFLICT OF INTEREST. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF THE CASES TODAY? NO. OKAY.
SO WE HAVE OCTOBER 7TH, OCTOBER 21ST AND NOVEMBER 4TH IN OUR PACKET.
DID EVERYBODY LOOK OVER THOSE? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED OR ANYTHING? NO. OKAY.
WE'LL ACCEPT THEM AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS? NO. OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON. NEW BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
OUR FIRST IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
FOR PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE FOLLOWING SCOPE OF WORK.
RESTORE ORIGINAL SIDE PORCH AND REMOVE EXISTING WALLS.
REMOVE REAR ADDITION AND REMOVE SLASH.
SEE EXHIBIT A FOR MORE DETAILS OF THE REQUEST.
PLEASE ALSO NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE PORCH AND REAR ADDITION IN QUESTION ARE LIKELY NOT HISTORIC TO THE HOUSE.
AS LATE AS MAYBE 1912 OR LATER.
IT JUST HAD A FRONT PORCH AT THAT TIME.
STAFF HAS SOME CONCERNS WITH COMPLETELY REMOVING THE UPPER HANDRAIL.
Y HISTORIC PHOTOGRAPHS WERE NOT PROVIDED.
SO BASICALLY JUST THE PART THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE FRONT.
THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE USUALLY ENCOURAGED.
SO WE HAVE A PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM THE FRONT HERE.
AND HERE WE HAVE A PHOTO OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, ONCE AGAIN SHOWING THAT SAME WALKOUT WINDOW THAT APPEARS TO BE EXISTENT AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED 3D RENDER THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED.
AND THEN THE BOTTOM TWO ILLUSTRATIONS COME FROM THE APPLICANT SUBMITTAL AND THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS JUST SHOWING FOR CLARITY WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE HANDRAIL REMAIN OR BE REPLACED.
HERE WE HAVE THE SANBORN MAPS FROM 1899 1912, 1947 SHOWING THE KIND OF EVOLUTION OF THE LOT.
AND HERE WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
THANK YOU DANIEL. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY I HAVE ONE.
THE HANDRAIL IN THE FRONT GOING BACK TO THE CORNER.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM, BOTTOM RIGHT.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS REPLACE THE HANDRAIL WHERE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REASONABLY.
OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
BEFORE THE SIDE PORCH WAS ADDED.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, JUST IF YOU COULD IMAGINE THE FRONT PORCH FRONT PART ITSELF.
OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
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OKAY. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 24LC-032.IS THE APPLICANT HERE? AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT? YOU COULD JUST SIGN IN FOR US.
AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
IT'S A DIAGRAM OF THE TOP RAILING AS IT WOULD BE REPLACED HOW STAFF RECOMMENDED.
YEAH. JUST. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE COPIES OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW, DANIEL. I TOOK THE LIBERTY MR. I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF [INAUDIBLE] JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO WE COULD ALL BE CLEAR WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, IF IT IS.
INDEED. I WAS TRYING TO DO THE MIND READING THING.
I RETIRED, SO NOW I GET TO WORK ON MY HOUSE.
SO TRYING TO GET THE BIG PICTURE DOWN SO THAT I CAN GET TO GET TO WORK.
HOPING TO RESTORE THAT SIDE PORCH AND MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT LESS LIKE A BIG WALL.
OKAY. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. OKAY.
RELOCATION OF TWO HISTORIC WINDOWS TO THEIR ORIGINAL LOCATIONS.
WHICH WINDOWS WERE THOSE? THOSE WERE THE ONES ON THE SIDE BEHIND THE PORCH.
YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT SOME OF THAT WORK DID GET DONE AND IS KIND OF FAIT ACCOMPLI.
YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT BECAUSE THERE'S HURRICANE SHUTTERS OVER ALL THE WINDOWS ON THAT SIDE ANYWAY.
OKAY. SO BUT YEAH AND THEN SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT ARE IN THE PACKET DO SHOW WHERE THE WINDOWS ARE TODAY. OKAY.
I WAS JUST GLAD THAT THEY WERE THERE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO. OKAY, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
ANYBODY? OKAY, I'LL MAKE ONE MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 24LC-032 . WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE SPECIFIC CONDITION OF THE UPPER PORCH HANDRAIL BEING RESTORED ONLY TO THE FRONT OF THE PORCH.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY.
WE CAN TAKE A VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? OKAY, MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT NEW BUSINESS ITEM.
WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING A LICENSE TO USE CASE 24LC-033, 1522 BALL.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, YES, THIS WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A LICENSE TO USE A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A EV CHARGING STATION. AT 1522 BALL, THERE WERE 25 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, THREE RETURNED.
ALL THREE OF THOSE WERE OPPOSED.
THERE WERE NO CITY DEPARTMENT.
NO CITY DEPARTMENTS SUBMITTED ANY CONCERNS OR COMMENTS.
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SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING PERMANENT LICENSE TO USE TO PLACE A CAR CHARGING STATION EV CHARGING STATION RIGHT AWAY ALONG AVENUE H IN ORDER TO CHARGE THEIR PERSONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE. THE APPLICANT OWNS THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE, IS ALSO OWNED BY THE APPLICANT, AND OCCUPIES THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE.OCCUPIES THE MAJORITY OF THE LOT LEAVING LITTLE OFF STREET PARKING AS AN OPTION.
PLEASE SEE EXHIBIT C FOR PHOTOS OF THE CURRENT CONDITIONS.
IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A HOUSING FOR THE CHARGING STATION.
INSTALL ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL LINES UNDERGROUND.
PER CHAPTER 32-5 OF CODE OF ORDINANCES PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE THE FINAL DECISION.
THEY WILL HEAR THIS CASE ON ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024, WHICH IS TOMORROW.
IT'S UNKNOWN IF THERE'S ADEQUATE SPACE FOR OFF STREET PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD.
A COMMON FORM OF TRANSPORTATION, WHEREAS TODAY ARE MODERN AUTOMOBILES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS LOCATING THE CHARGING STATION AS FAR AWAY FROM WALL STREET TREES AS POSSIBLE, IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE POTENTIAL DAMAGE TO THE ROOT SYSTEMS. NOTE THAT THERE WAS A SIMILAR REQUEST PRESENTED TO, LANDMARK COMMISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION IN 2018, AND THAT DID ULTIMATELY GET APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE.
SO HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, JUST THE HOUSE ITSELF.
WE'LL SEE SOME PHOTOS OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IN QUESTION HERE IN A MOMENT.
SO HERE WE HAVE TWO SUBMITTALS BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING, YOU KNOW, JUST THE FIRST IS JUST A GENERAL LOCATION OF THE CHARGER AND THE SECOND IS KIND OF A MORE DETAILED MOCK UP SHOWING SOME DIMENSIONS AND THE LOOK OF THE CHARGER ITSELF AND THE APPLICANT IS BASICALLY PROPOSING TO CENTER THE CHARGING STATION EQUIDISTANT FROM THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WE HAVE A FEW PHOTOS OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
EXHIBITS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT TO REFERENCE AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF REPORT.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? [INAUDIBLE]OPPOSED COMMENTS, SOMETHING ABOUT A TWO CAR GARAGE IN THE BACK WITH A DRIVEWAY.
IS [INAUDIBLE]. BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE APPLICANT STUFF AND YOU SAID THERE WASN'T ENOUGH PARKING OFF THE ALLEY TO PLACE A CHARGER THERE, RIGHT.
SO THIS WAS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
STAFF DOESN'T NECESSARILY KNOW THE CONDITION OF THE GARAGE OR HOW THE APPLICANT USES IT, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A EXCUSE, RIGHT? WE JUST CAN'T SAY.
SO WE ARE GOING WITH STRICTLY WHAT THE APPLICANT PRESENTED.
IF THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKE ABOUT THAT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE INCLUDED IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO BE HERE.
I JUST WONDERED BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORS MENTIONED, THAT THEY DID HAVE THAT.
YEAH, I BELIEVE THERE IS A GARAGE IN THE BACK OFF THE ALLEY.
YES AND THEN WHEN YOU PLACE A CHARGER ON A CURB LIKE THAT, A PUBLIC STREET, YOU CAN'T RESTRICT WHO CAN PARK THERE.
THERE IS. SO IF SOMEBODY JUST PULLS UP THERE AND DECIDES, HEY, I'M PARKING HERE TODAY, BUT THE PERSON NEEDS TO CHARGE THEIR CAR, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? OR IS THAT DO WE CARE? IS THAT AN ISSUE FOR US? WELL PARKING IS OPEN, SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE SITUATION.
IS THAT A SHORT TERM RENTAL? I DO NOT KNOW.
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YOU MENTIONED AN APPROVED CHARGING STATION IN 2018.DID THAT ONE GET BUILT? IT IS. IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE, 24TH STREET, I BELIEVE.
RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S A BIT SHORTER THAN THIS.
IT'S EASY TO OVERLOOK, BUT THEY HAVE IT ENCLOSED IN A LITTLE WOODEN BOX WITH A PADLOCK.
IF IT'S RIGHT ON THAT LAST PAGE.
I WAS MOSTLY ASKING BECAUSE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED WERE ABOUT FIRE RISKS AND PUBLIC HAZARD WITH THE CORDS, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD ANY HISTORY OF THAT WITH THAT EXISTING ONE.
NOR DID OUR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT FOR THAT MATTER.
[INAUDIBLE] MAYBE GOOGLE EARTH [INAUDIBLE].
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT ONE'S COVERED IN A WOODEN BOX NOW.
SO THERE IS SOME WAY TO KIND OF MAKE IT LESS VISUALLY.
OH THAT'S CORRECT. THE STAFF UNFORTUNATELY DOES NOT HAVE A PHOTO HANDY.
BUT THE IT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO FOOT SQUARE BY MAYBE 30IN TALL AND YEAH, MADE OUT OF WOOD.
IT DOES. IT JUST FLIPPED BACK.
I THINK IT'S LIKE A LITTLE SHED LOOKING THING THAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS LIKE A WATER HOSE IN THERE.
ACTUALLY DOESN'T LOOK TOO GOOD, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND IT MAY ALSO BE AN AWKWARD SPOT, BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE I HIT IT WITH MY DOUBLE STROLLER WHEN I WALKED THROUGH THERE. THAT'S FINE.
AND LAURA KIND OF YELLED AT ME FOR.
SO MY QUESTION IS THAT ONE IS PADLOCKED, IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
IS THIS UNLOCKED? LIKE, CAN ANYONE JUST CHARGE THEIR CAR ON IT? I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THOSE DETAILS.
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IN THEORY, IF IT'S NOT SECURED IN SOME WAY, THE ANSWER WOULD, I GUESS BE YES.THAT'S NOTHING FOR US, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY. I GUESS IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IT'D BE A GOOD PLACE TO CHARGE YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE WHEN THEY'RE GONE FOR FREE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, I HAVE A COUPLE.
THE NEIGHBOR WHO IS OPPOSED, WHO GAVE A LENGTHY TYPED RESPONSE, STATED THAT LEVEL ONE, LEVEL TWO, LEVEL THREE CHARGERS HAVE HIGHER VOLTAGE AND CAN PRESENT AS A FIRE HAZARD.
DO WE KNOW, I THINK THEY USED THE TERM IN EVS.
WHAT TYPE OF CHARGER? WHAT LEVEL OF CHARGING THIS WILL BE IN TERMS OF VOLTAGE? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION TO THAT WOULD BE IF AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE WAS AT 0% AND THEY PLUGGED IT INTO THIS CHARGER, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO BE FULLY CHARGED? YEAH.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL WAS THAT FINE GRAINED SO WE CANNOT ANSWER THEM.
I THINK IT SAYS 2/30 VOLT ON THE THING.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL, YEAH. SO WHAT IS OUR PURVIEW EXACTLY? IS IT JUST THE LOOKS OR WHAT DO WE CARE ABOUT MORE? WELL, I MEAN, IT COULD BE ESTHETICS.
TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL SEE ARE MORE OR LESS, YOU KNOW, ESTHETICALLY GROUNDED.
BUT YEAH, YOU WERE BASICALLY MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, MORE EXAMINING THE PLACEMENT AND THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I WOULD WONDER IF WE COULD ADD A SPECIFIC CONDITION ABOUT MINIMIZING THE VISUAL IMPACTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT ANY IMPLICATIONS. SAFETY WISE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A FIRE HAZARD, BUT IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO ADDING TO MINIMIZE VISUAL IMPACTS TO DISGUISE OR CAMOUFLAGE, I SEE THAT THEY DO HAVE SOME PLANTS THERE, WHICH IS A GOOD SIGN.
I WILL NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, A ELECTRICAL PERMIT AND INSPECTIONS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS INSTALLATION LIKE ANY OTHER ELECTRICAL WORK HERE IN THE CITY [INAUDIBLE] . I BELIEVE SO, GENERALLY SPEAKING, FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, IS WHATEVER DIRECTIONS THAT ARE IN HERE OR WITH WHOEVER IS GOING TO INSTALL IT, THEN THAT WOULD BE A SAFETY FEATURE [INAUDIBLE].
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OKAY. SO ANOTHER QUESTION.SO LET'S SAY THEY DO HAVE ADEQUATE OFF STREET PARKING.
WOULD THE STAFF STILL IS THAT THE WHOLE BASIS OF THIS RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE I'M SORRY.
THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE IS THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE STAFF SPACE FOR OFF STREET PARKING.
SO IS THAT THE WHOLE FOUNDATION OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION? IF IT DID HAVE ADEQUATE SPACE, WOULD YOU ALL NOT RECOMMEND IT AT ALL? WELL, THAT WOULD BRING IN ANOTHER COMPLEXITY OF NEW CURB CUTS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS WOULD REQUIRE LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW ANYWAY.
SO IN THIS CASE, THERE MAY BE SOME.
AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THERE IS A GARAGE THAT PROVIDES SOMETHING.
BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER BEEN IN THAT GARAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE CAN ONLY ONCE AGAIN PRESENT WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PRESENTED.
DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE GARAGE OR ANYTHING? WE DO NOT.
I SHOULD HAVE DRIVEN BY. AND I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THAT AND SEEING HOW THE CONDITION IT WAS.
[INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
[INAUDIBLE], THEN THERE ARE WAYS TO [INAUDIBLE].
DEFER [INAUDIBLE] . YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF THE BASE ASSUMPTION THAT [INAUDIBLE] BUT THERE ARE ALSO MANY SITES THAT DON'T HAVE GARAGES AT ALL OR EVEN OFF STREET PARKING.
SO WE RECOGNIZE THIS IS GOING TO BECOME AN ISSUE [INAUDIBLE].
IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER EVERYWHERE, ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.
HOWEVER SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT ABOUT HOW WE DO [INAUDIBLE] . BUT AGAIN, WHAT THEY'VE APPLIED FOR IS IRRESPECTIVE OF THE GARAGE.
WE DO ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE HERE WHENEVER THEY CAN.
ARE THERE ANY RULES ABOUT HOW MANY CAN BE ON A STREET IN GENERAL OR SPACING BETWEEN THEM OR ANYTHING? SO IN THEORY, YOU COULD HAVE EVERY HOUSE ON THE STREET HAVE ONE.
OKAY. SO I CAN SEE THE BENEFIT TO TRYING TO PUSH PEOPLE IN A GARAGE.
OKAY. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN WAS THE GARAGE AND THE ACCESS, BECAUSE THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT PROTESTED SAID, THERE'S A TWO CAR GARAGE AND THERE'S A DRIVEWAY IN THE BACK, BUT WHO KNOWS? OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 24LC-033.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? NO. OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT? NO. OKAY.
WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
I'LL JUST SAY SO I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER.
WHAT'S THE WORDING EXACTLY? I NEED TO SAY. I JUST I'D LIKE TO DEFER.
WHY ARE YOU DEFERRING? YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION? YEAH. MORE INFORMATION. THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY.
YOU'RE GOING TO SAY IT FOR THE RECORD.
YEAH. LET ME GET THE ACTUAL NUMBER UP.
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IT'S ON THE SCREEN. OKAY.IT NEEDS TO BE HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
I WOULD PUT THEM IN THE MOTION.
OKAY, SO I'VE MOVED TO DEFER 24LC-033, DEFER.
SO THE APPLICANT CAN BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT OFF STREET PARKING.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? JUST ONE MORE THING ON THE VISUAL AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR APPLICATION, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS CONSIDERED EXHIBIT A, I KNOW THEY HAVE PLANTS IN THERE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH FURTHER DISCUSSION ON SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AND I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
LIKE ONE OF THEM. BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU KNOW, CAN WE GET MORE SPECIFIC INTO, MINIMIZING VISUAL IMPACTS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM OTHER OWNERS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS AS WELL.
ON THINGS THAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE JUST SPECIFIC TO THE VISUALS.
SO IS THAT AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST ON OFF STREET PARKING.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? SURE. YES, I CAN MOTION TO AMEND THE TO CONTINUE THE DEFERMENT, BUT ALSO TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ADDING A SPECIFIC CONDITION RELATED TO THE VISUAL IMPACTS AND WAYS WE CAN MITIGATE THAT CONCERN.
SO ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AMENDMENT? YEAH. DID I MESS UP BY SAYING OFF STREET PARKING? DOES THAT LIMIT OUR DISCUSSION NEXT TIME? SHOULD I JUST SAY A MOTION? OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION I GUESS AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NEW MOTION TO DEFER 24LC-033.
IN HOPES THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE PRESENT TO ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS AND TO WHAT DATE WOULD YOU LIKE TO DEFER THAT? OH. I GUESS OUR NEXT MEETING IS ONE OH.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? JUST ONE QUICK THING. I STILL WHEN THE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS FOR ME STILL REMAIN.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE? IS IT A DRIP, DRIP, DRIP OR IS IT 20 MINUTES OR IS IT 12 HOURS? THAT WILL WEIGH IN ON HOW I WANT TO, WHAT DECISION I MAY MAKE RIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S COVERED BY YOUR MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? OKAY. THE MOTION TO DEFER PASSES.
SO, STAFF QUESTION WHAT HAPPENS IF TOMORROW THEY APPROVE IT? IS IT JUST THEY STILL HAVE TO COME TO US AGAIN OR.
[INAUDIBLE], BECAUSE IT'S A HISTORIC ISSUE, A LANDMARK ISSUE.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEFERRED.
MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR MEETING SCHEDULE BY STAFF.
ALL RIGHT. SO OUR CAPTAIN, CATHERINE GORMAN, WHO IS NOT HERE WITH US, HAS, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR THE 2025 MEETING SCHEDULE FOR CONSIDERATION AND, YOU KNOW, SHE ALWAYS DOES THIS EVERY YEAR.
IT'S NOT NEARLY AS EASY AS IT LOOKS, SO HATS OFF TO HER.
JUST TO PRESENT FOR YOU KNOW, REVIEW.
OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO ADD TO THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS ON DECEMBER 16TH? NO? OKAY.
THE TIME IS 4:34.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.