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OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

[Landmark Commission on August 7, 2023.]

TODAY IS MONDAY, AUGUST 7TH, 2023, AND THE TIME IS 4:00.

WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER ALBERSTADT.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BAKER.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BOURGEOIS.

PRESENT. VICE CHAIRPERSON CLICK.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER FLINT-BUDDE.

HE WILL BE ABSENT TODAY.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

PRESENT. CHAIRPERSON PATTERSON.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER STETZEL-THOMPSON.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SWANSON.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS.

PRESENT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF THE CASES WE HAVE TODAY? NO. SEEING NONE, I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES.

DO WE SEE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE? IT LOOKS GOOD. ALL GOOD.

NO CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS.

OKAY. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? CATHERINE. NO PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN RECEIVED.

OKAY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.

TODAY IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

CASE 23LC-032 1118 SEALY.

ALL RIGHTY.

SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ALTERATIONS TO THE FRONT STAIRS, INCLUDING A CHANGE OF MATERIALS.

THERE WERE SIX PUBLIC NOTICES SENT AND NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REPLACE EXISTING WOOD FRONT STAIRS WITH BRICK.

PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WILL USE RECLAIMED BRICK THAT CLOSELY MATCHES EXISTING BRICK PAVERS LEADING TO THE HOUSE FROM THE AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY.

THE DRAWINGS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT INDICATES THE FOLLOWING SCOPE OF WORK MATERIALS, WHICH WOULD BE TO REBUILD THE WOOD FRONT STAIRS WITH SALVAGED BRICK AS SHOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT. PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

STAFF HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS, THE HISTORIC SITES, INVENTORY NOTES OF THE HOUSE'S GREEK REVIVAL STYLE OF WOOD FRAME CONSTRUCTION AND WOOD SIDING.

BRICK DOES NOT APPEAR TO EXIST ON THE VISIBLE FACADE OF THE HOUSE AND LIKELY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PRESENT ORIGINALLY.

HISTORIC PHOTOS OF THE HOUSE DO NOT SHOW ANY OBVIOUS BRICK ON THE FACADE, BUT THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT INDISTINCT.

WHILE THE PRESENCE OF BRICK STAIRS ON AN OTHERWISE WOOD FRAME, WOOD CLAD BUILDING IS NOT [INAUDIBLE] THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.

AND WHILE THERE ARE SOME OTHER EXAMPLES IN THE AREA, THE DESIGN STANDARDS NOTE THAT BUILDING MATERIALS SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT.

STAIRS ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED.

HOWEVER, THE EXAMPLES GIVEN THE DESIGN STANDARDS SUGGEST THE INTENT APPLIES TO MAINTAIN HARMONY WITH ALL BUILDING MATERIALS AND EXTERIOR FEATURES.

DUE TO NONCONFORMITY WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS STAFF RECOMMENDS NOW THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 10.110 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, SAYS THE APPLICANT BE AGGRIEVED BY THE DECISION OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, A LETTER REQUESTING AN APPEAL MAY BE SUBMITTED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE WITHIN 20 DAYS OF THE COMMISSION'S DECISION.

ADDITIONALLY, THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPLICATION MUST BE SUBMITTED BY THE NEXT RESPECTIVE DEADLINE DATE ACCORDINGLY, HOWEVER, SHOULD THE LANDMARK COMMISSION DETERMINE THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS DO CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS, A SPECIFIC CONDITION MAY APPLY.

PLUS STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH SIX.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PHOTOS TODAY, UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

SO THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, THE NICE THING IS THAT WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY AS WE HAVE FOLLOWED ITS INCREDIBLE PROGRESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND IT'S STUNNING.

IT'S STUNNING. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE PICTURES OF THIS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO QUESTIONS FOR.

I JUST WANT FOR CLARIFICATION.

THERE ARE NO HISTORICAL PHOTOS THAT SHOW THAT TYPE OF STAIRS ON THIS PROPERTY.

NOT THAT WE WERE AWARE OF OR ARE AWARE OF OR WERE PROVIDED.

OKAY. AND I ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF PROPERTIES IN THE EAST END THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF STAIR.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE GENERALLY THINGS THAT WERE ADDED TO THESE PROPERTIES PRIOR TO IT BECOMING A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT NOW PROTECT THESE PROPERTIES FROM MODIFICATIONS THAT AREN'T APPROPRIATE.

SO ANYWAYS, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT OR IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ABOUT THIS PROPERTY? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE STAFF.

ASK FOR A THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION.

BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.

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DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS? I WILL. SARAH.

I MOVE THAT WE DENY CASE 23LC-032 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

DUE TO NONCONFORMANCE. DUE TO NONCONFORMANCE.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SHARON HAS SECONDED IT.

DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE APPROVED SO MANY CHANGES AND ALTERATIONS TO THIS PROPERTY FOR THE OWNERS TO DEVELOP IT THE WAY THEY WANT IT ON THE BACK AND WHERE IT'S LESS VISIBLE.

IT'S ALSO BECOME A VERY SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY WITH THE CHANGES THAT THEY'VE MADE.

SO IT'S VERY NOTICEABLE NOW AND I WISH WE COULD APPROVE SUCH THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THEM MAKING THESE CHANGES TO THIS PROPERTY AND IT'S TURNED OUT AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT IS.

OKAY. ARE WE READY FOR ANY OTHER ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DENY DUE TO NONCONFORMANCE.

ANYBODY AGAINST THE MOTION DUE TO NONCONFORMANCE.

DID YOU VOTE? NOT VOTING.

OKAY, GREAT.

I'LL JUST STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU'RE ABSTAINING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

AND COMMISSIONER ALBERSTADT ABSTAINS.

OKAY. JULIE VOTED FOR.

VOTED FOR. OKAY, SO IT'S.

IT'S UNANIMOUS. AND ONE ABSTAIN.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON.

WE ARE GOING TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF PRESERVATION COMMISSIONS.

SO I HAD SENT OUT A COUPLE OF EMAILS ABOUT THIS TRAINING SESSION AND DIDN'T GET A LOT OF POSITIVE RESPONSES.

IT'S TWO DAYS. I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S A BIG TIME COMMITMENT, SO I'M GOING TO CANCEL IT HERE AT THE CITY.

BUT IF YOU INDIVIDUALLY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL GET YOU AN INDIVIDUAL PASS FOR IT.

SO I KNOW JANE WAS WANTING TO DO IT, AND I THINK NANCY AS WELL.

SO ANYBODY WHO'S STILL INTERESTED IN DOING IT, JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I'LL GET THAT SET UP FOR YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THE NEXT MEETING THAT THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? NO. OKAY.

JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT WE DO HAVE A MEETING ON THE THIRD MONDAY.

WE DO NOT HAVE A MEETING ON THE FIRST MONDAY OF SEPTEMBER BECAUSE OF A HOLIDAY.

AND THEN THE THIRD MONDAY IS MY LAST MEETING.

SO YOU GUYS BETTER BE PONYING UP ON THIS DEAL.

GEARING UP BECAUSE I'M MOVING ON.

THE TRAINS MOVING OUT.

OKAY. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

COUNCIL MEMBER HAD A COMMENT.

OH, JUST THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

WE'RE CREEPING UP ON THAT TIME OF THE YEAR AGAIN.

AND I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT YOU WERE TERMING OUT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO ENCOURAGE YOUR ACQUAINTANCES AND FRIENDS TO TO APPLY THROUGH JANELLE'S OFFICE.

WE WILL BE MAKING THOSE APPOINTMENTS IN SEPTEMBER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU. EIGHT MINUTES.

IT'S A RECORD.

THAT WAS A RECORD.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.