4.A Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (1 Hour)

[4.A Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (1 Hour)]

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. WE WOULD LIKE TO START. WE'LL START 13.A. OKAY.

SO IT'S THE, IT'S A REFUND. BUT DO WE DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE REFUND IN THE CITY COUNCIL SIDE OR IS IT MORE? OH, IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A LARGE NUMBER, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNEW ABOUT IT IN CASE YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS. SO IT'S JUST WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE ANYTHING, RIGHT? NO, NO, IT'S THEIR MONEY.

WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE SENDING BACK THEIR MONEY. THAT'S ALL I GOT SO FAR.

OKAY. THANKS. CHAIR. YOU CAN COME BACK TO ME.

JASON. NO. I'M GOOD. OH, THIS COULD BE A QUICK MEETING.

I'M GOOD. I READ THROUGH LAST NIGHT. JEFF. ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 IS JUST A COMMENT ON THIS QUESTION, BUT IT'S CONCERNING THE SIGNS ITEM 8.B THE STAFFM THE LDRS [INAUDIBLE] TWO HOUR MEETING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EDUCATION ON THAT. THANK YOU. THANK THE STAFF FOR DOING THAT SO I.

CAN ITEM 11. YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 11 YOU. 11 YOU.

JUST SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF. YEAH. IS THERE A IS THERE A POLICY CONCERNING THIS FACIAL ID? YEAH. I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THAT TOO. AND JUST SAME, SAME QUESTION BASICALLY, DOES THE DOES THE DEPARTMENT HAVE A POLICY ON HOW THAT INFORMATION GETS RELEASED? WHO LOOKS AT IT? DOES IT GET LOGGED? HOW LONG DO YOU KEEP IT? YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE THIS IS A FACIAL RECOGNITION SOFTWARE. ESSENTIALLY.

SO IT THE COMPANY ITSELF SCRUBS ALL PUBLIC ACCESS DOMAINS, ANYTHING THAT'S PUBLIC ACCESS AND PULLS IN PHOTOGRAPHS. AND I'M ACTUALLY GETTING INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO PULL IT.

AND I WAS TRYING TO GET THAT BEFORE I WAS CALLED UP HERE.

OKAY. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND, PLEASE. SURE. YEAH.

THIS IS. YEAH. GO AHEAD SIR. NO, I MEAN, THE MAIN PURPOSE OF IT IS THAT WHEN THEY GET VIDEO, RING CAMERA VIDEO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY CAN USE THIS TO HOPEFULLY IDENTIFY SUSPECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT. YES, WE HAVE A POLICY ON ANY AND ALL TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE USE AND HOW THEY'RE TO BE USED.

WE DID HAVE A BREACH, I THINK ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO BOTH OFFICERS WERE FIRED FOR MISUSE.

BUT THIS IS, THIS WOULD FALL INTO THAT TECHNOLOGY CATEGORY.

IT WAS, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES, BUT NOW IT'S, IT'S BACK ON, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FROM MY STAFF THAT WE WERE WANTING TO PUSH FORWARD WITH IT. YES, SIR. COULD, COULD WE SEE THOSE POLICIES OR THAT POLICY.

COULD YOU SEND THAT TO US? SURE. I CAN GET THAT DONE.

YEAH. JUST GET IT TO GET IT TO JANELLE AND SHE'LL DISTRIBUTE IT TO EVERYBODY.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTION, SIR? ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THAT ONE SO FAR.

YEAH, BUT ANOTHER QUESTION IS THIS COMPANY IS THERE A HAVE THEY DONE BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? YES, SIR. TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY RECENTLY SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THEM THAT WILL GO THROUGH 2030 FOR SOMEWHERE OVER $1 MILLION A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE THE LAWSUIT, THE I'M FOR TECHNOLOGY AND I SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT 100%,

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I DO. BUT THE COMPANY, THEY WERE INVOLVED IN A LAWSUIT, I THINK A $51 MILLION.

CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT IN FLORIDA. DO YOU NOT KNOW? NO, SIR. IN FLORIDA, I THINK. NO, SIR. WELL, IT WAS FOR THE UNITED STATES.

IT'S FOR EVERYBODY. BUT I THINK IT WAS STARTED IN FLORIDA.

GOTCHA. NO, SIR. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I JUST HAD A SIMILAR QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, THE THE CONCERN AND MAYBE THIS IS IN THE POLICY IS HOW WE PROTECT PUBLIC PRIVACY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I SAW IN THE DISCLAIMER THAT THEY SAID THE CLEARVIEW IS NEITHER DESIGNED OR INTENDED TO BE USED FOR SOLE SOLE SOURCE SYSTEM FOR ESTABLISHING OR CONFIRMING AN INDIVIDUAL'S IDENTITY.

CUSTOMERS RESPONSIBLE FOR INDEPENDENTLY VERIFYING ANY INFORMATION OR DATA OBTAINED THROUGH THE PRODUCT AND SERVICES BEFORE RELYING ON IT IN RELATION TO ANY LEGAL PROCESSES.

SO, I MEAN, I GUESS YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF PROTECTION BUILT INTO YOUR POLICY.

YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A TOOL. IT'S A TOOL THAT CAN BE UTILIZED TO TO ELIMINATE OR GIVE US SOME SUSPECTS.

DOES IT MEAN THAT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIMILAR IDENTIFICATION OR SIMILAR FEATURES.

AND SO IT'S USED, YOU KNOW, BUT WE HAVE TO VET ALL OF THAT INFORMATION BEFORE IT'S EVER USED TO TRIANGULATE ANYTHING ELSE.

YES, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE UTILIZED IN CONJUNCTION WITH A HOST OF OTHER EVIDENCE IN ORDER.

AND THOSE, THOSE ARE REALLY BUILT IN THROUGH THE DA'S OFFICE AND HOW THEY PROSECUTE AND WHAT THEY LOOK AT.

BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU, IF WE CAME AND JUST SAID THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT FOX SAID, OR THAT'S WHAT I SAID, CLEARVIEW SAID, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE UP THAT CASE.

YEAH, YEAH. AND JEFF BROUGHT UP A POINT THAT REMINDED ME OF WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE FLOCK CAMERAS.

THERE WAS SOME KIND OF LAWSUIT SOMEWHERE OUT THERE FOR THAT COMPANY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T FALL INTO THAT SAME SITUATION WITH THIS.

IF THERE'S ANY, ANY LEGAL ISSUES WITH IT, ANYWHERE, THAT WE OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE FIRST.

YES, SIR. MAYBE WE COULD TRY TO PULL THAT UP AND HAVE IT FOR EVERYBODY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WRITTEN ON IT FOR THE MEETING THIS EVENING BEFORE THEY VOTE ON IT.

YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND I THINK YOU KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT.

YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU USE TO IDENTIFY OR TO ELIMINATE.

I HAVE AN AI QUESTION REGARDING RACE. HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH WITH IDENTIFYING PEOPLE OF CERTAIN RACES? BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A MIX OUT THERE. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? NO SPECIFICS AS TO HOW IT REALLY IS, IS HAS SOME PROS AND CONS FOR SPEAKING TO AI AND GENERALITIES I HAVE.

IT'S SO FAR BEYOND, I THINK PROBABLY A LOT OF US.

IT IS, IT'S, IT'S VERY, VERY TECHNICAL. YEAH.

BUT AS FAR AS THIS SOFTWARE IS, IS FACIAL RECOGNITION.

IT'S HERE IN GALVESTON, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 8 MILLION VISITORS A YEAR AND SOME OF THOSE COMMIT CRIMES.

AND SO HAVING A LOCAL DATABASE JUST MADE UP OF MUGSHOTS IN A LOT OF AREAS WORKS VERY WELL.

HERE I THINK IT DOESN'T WORK AS WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY VISITORS AND SO MANY PEOPLE COMING, COMING DOWN HERE THAT WE'VE NEVER IDENTIFIED BEFORE.

SO I'M GLAD YOU AS LONG AS IT'S ONE OF THE TOOLS.

YES, MA'AM. IT KIND OF REMINDS ME AND JEFF, YOU REMEMBER THIS FROM PROBABLY YEARS AGO, THE OLD FINGERPRINT IDENTIFICATION SYSTEMS, THAT THEY WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT A FINGERPRINT AND THEY COULD SCAN A DATABASE. THIS IS ALMOST THE NEW VERSION OF THAT, EXCEPT IT'S USING. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED A FINGERPRINT TO OPEN YOUR PHONE ANYMORE LIKE YOU USED TO WITH APPLE.

NOW IT'S YOUR FACIAL RECOGNITION. IT'S THE SAME THING.

THAT WAS AT LEAST THE WAY I TRIED TO UNDERSTAND IT WHEN I LOOKED AT IT FIRST.

I BELIEVE I SUPPORT THE POLICE 100%. ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS I DO I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

IT'S WHAT YOU DO WITH THE DATA THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT IS.

IT'S WHO HAS ACCESS TO IT. AND BECAUSE THERE'S, I, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE USED MISUSED.

YES, SIR. IT WOULD, IT WOULD IT WOULD BASICALLY FALL UNDER THE SAME STRINGENT GUIDELINES THAT, THAT UTILIZING THE FLOCK SYSTEM FALLS UNDER AND THAT'S NOT OPEN TO THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S OPEN TO INVESTIGATORS WHO NEED IT AND WHO RELY UPON IT TO DO THEIR JOB.

NO, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. YES, SIR. AND DO PERIODIC AUDITS OF THAT TO CORRECT.

IT'S BUILT INTO THE POLICY. OKAY. LIKE WITH THE SYSTEM, HOW WE WE AUDIT IT REGULARLY.

YES. PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT USE OF AI.

I, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING AI AS A TOOL, NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU COMPLETELY RELY ON, IS FANTASTIC.

AND I COMMEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR LOOKING INTO IT AND FIGURING OUT WAYS, BECAUSE IT WILL PROBABLY HELP MAKE THINGS INVESTIGATIONS WHEN USED PROPERLY,

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MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. SO IT WILL BE A VERY BIG PART OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND ALL OTHER ASPECTS OF WHAT WE DO.

GREAT. AND GOVERNMENT PROBABLY. SO THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? YOU MENTIONED THIS KIND OF IN YOUR OPENING REMARKS THERE, BUT YOU'LL USE THIS TOOL WHEN YOU COLLECT VIDEO AND YOU'LL RUN THAT VIDEO THROUGH THE SOFTWARE.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL GET THESE, THE FACIAL RECOGNITION. THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND THEN YOU CROSS-REFERENCE THAT WITH OTHER SOURCES RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GET A FALSE POSITIVE.

ABSOLUTELY. YES. EVEN IN GALVESTON AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S A WHOLE KIND OF OTHER.

YES, BUT MOSTLY IT'S JUST SCRUBBING PUBLIC DOMAIN PUBLIC PHOTOS THAT ARE ON THE INTERNET.

THAT'S WHAT IT DOES. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU CHIEF.

THANK YOU CHIEF. WHILE HE'S UP HERE, CAN I DO 11.E? SURE. CHIEF. THANK YOU, MISS LEWIS. THANKS. SORRY.

AGAIN, THE GALVESTON COMMUNITY POLICE FOUNDATION HAS MADE SEVERAL DONATIONS.

JUST KUDOS TO THEM. AND ALWAYS THANK YOU TO THE MEN IN BLUE AND WHAT THEY DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU TO CAPTAIN ON THAT TOO.

HE STEPPED UP AND HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THAT, WITH THAT PROGRAM.

ABSOLUTELY. YES. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. ITEM 11.JJ.

[INAUDIBLE] GOOD MORNING. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS. IS THIS A FINAL CONDITION OR IT IS NOT? IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ARTS DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS SOME REQUESTS FROM MALAGA, WHO WAS OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THE ACTUAL CONTENT FROM GALVESTON.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE IMAGE, DO YOU HAVE IT? I HAVE COPIES OF IT.

THEY ALSO WANTED HIM HOLDING A CAN OF GALVESTON ON BEAU RAWLINS TIKI. [LAUGHS] NO, BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THERE THAT WE JUST DIDN'T THINK WERE ICONIC TO GALVESTON. THERE'S A LIGHTHOUSE THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

THERE'S THE WATER TOWER, WHICH ISN'T VERY ICONIC.

AND THEN IT FEATURES THE BISHOP'S PALACE, BUT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT COLOR.

SO WE EITHER ASK THEM TO CHANGE THE COLOR OF THAT OR UPDATE IT TO SOMETHING TO A DIFFERENT BUILDING, MAYBE THE HOTEL GALVEZ OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

SWITCH OUT THE LIGHTHOUSE, MAYBE TO THE TEXAS HEROES MONUMENT.

THOSE KINDS OF SUGGESTIONS. THANK YOU. GOOD. I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I LOVE THE LOCATION. OKAY. GOOD SPOT. YEAH. IT IS.

THAT IS WHERE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED A MONUMENT OF BERNARDO DE GALVEZ AS WELL.

SO THAT MONUMENT WOULD GO IN THAT. AND THE INTERNET'S WORKING WITH THEM.

TRYING TO GET THERE. GET THEM MOVING. YES THEY'LL BE.

THEY'LL BE AT COUNCIL TONIGHT FOR THE BERNARDO DE GALVEZ DAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY, [INAUDIBLE] 11.C, THIS IS THE LOCAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLANNING PROGRAM. JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

THIS WAY. AND FORGET. [INAUDIBLE] AGENDA ITEM.

YES. THE QUESTION IS, DOES THIS PLAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY RATING INDEX, OR CRI, WHICH IN TURN IMPACTS OUR LOCAL INSURANCE? NOT DIRECTLY.

THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CRI SCORECARD. SO IF YOU DO THIS, YOU GET A NOT NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT BUT THIS WILL COUNT IN OUR OVERALL SYNOPSIS.

SO IT COULD ACTUALLY IMPACT IT DOWN THE ROAD ONCE WE IMPLEMENT THE PLAN ITSELF.

DOING THE PLAN DOESN'T CHANGE OUR CRS. THE PROJECT WITHIN THE PLAN AS YOU IMPLEMENT THEM.

THAT'S CORRECT. YOU CAN CHECK OFF ONE OF THE BOXES.

THAT'S CORRECT. BUT WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TIPPY TOP ON THAT ONE, THANKS TO A LOT OF HARD WORK RIGHT NOW.

OH THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S A QUESTION. WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE.

SO WE'RE WE'RE ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATED COASTAL CITIES RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE MIGHT BE AT FIVE. YEAH WE'RE FIVE.

WE'RE FIVE, WHICH WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE HIGHEST ON THE COAST.

SO. OKAY. THAT WAS ALL I HAD. UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING ON THAT.

I GOT ANOTHER ONE. 11.H THIS IS ABOUT THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE PARK BOARD.

LET'S SEE, THERE WAS AN ITEM IN THE MEETING MINUTES, 3.H DISCUSSION TO BODDEKER ROAD AS IT RELATES TO ABILITY TO EAST BEACH.

SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THE ITEM WAS AT THE VERY BOTTOM.

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IT SAID THE ITEM WAS REFERRED TO COUNCIL FOR FURTHER DIRECTION. WE ALSO DISCUSSED THIS IN OUR BOARD MEETING.

WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT I PREFER TO REFERENCE IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A JOINT COMMITTEE BETWEEN THE PARK BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO DIG DEEPER AND GET SOME MORE ANALYSIS INTO BODDEKER ROAD AND WHAT, WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND IT ARE, BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT ACCESS TO EAST BEACH.

AND SO I JUST WANTED THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT IN FACT, IN THE PARK BOARD MINUTES, IT SAYS THE MAYOR EMPHASIZED THE NEED FOR PLANNING AND EXPERTISE FOR BODDEKER, STATING THAT THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER TAKING ON THE PROJECT AND POSSIBLY FORMING A COMMITTEE, A JOINT COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THAT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THE RECORD IN THE RIGHT WAY SO WE CAN PURSUE PURSUE THAT WITH THE RIGHT BACK UP, I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE, ENGINEERING WISE OR OTHER. OKAY. THAT WAS ALL I HAD ON THAT ONE.11.N. THIS IS ISO, PUBLIC PROTECTION CLASSIFICATION SURVEY.

YES. THIS IS REALLY SIMILAR TO MY LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE DOES THIS DOES THIS SURVEY IN ANY WAY SERVE TO REDUCE OUR INSURANCE? I MEAN, IT SAYS RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY AT RATING TWO.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT FOR ONE. THAT'S THE HIGHEST. I MEAN, THAT'S. HIGHEST YOU CAN GET. YEAH. AND SO DOES THAT, DOES THAT GET US ANY BREAK ON OUR LOCAL INSURANCE PROPERTY? HAS A DIRECT EFFECT ON YOUR ON YOUR FIRE INSURANCE.

SO IF WE CAN GET TO ONE, THEN WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LOWER OUR HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE.

BUT THE THE LAST TPC RATING WE HAD THOUGH WAS ALMOST 11 YEARS AGO.

SO THEY DID THINGS A LOT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THAN AND THIS GENTLEMAN HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE 74, OF COURSE, AND SOME TYPE OF CAPACITY, WHETHER IT BE A FIELD REPRESENTATIVE OR A CONSULTANT.

AND HE'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CHIEF, CHIEF WEISKOPF TOOK US FROM A FOUR TO A TWO.

EVER SINCE HE WAS IN PLACE. SO WE'D LIKE TO DEFINITELY KEEP IT TO POSSIBLY GO TO ONE.

AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN TEN YEARS. IS THAT RIGHT? TEN YEARS. NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO DO IT. TEN YEARS IS ABOUT THE AVERAGE, HOW IT USED TO BE EVERY TEN YEARS. BUT NOW THEY WANT TO GO TO ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS. OKAY, SO WE'LL BE GOING TO FIVE YEAR HENCEFORTH.

SO WHAT KIND OF THINGS DO WE NEED TO KIND OF CHANGE OR DO WE NEED TO MAKE TO IMPROVE THAT? WELL, THERE'S A FEW THINGS YOU CAN DO, BUT OF COURSE IT RELIES ON ON THREE DIFFERENT SETS, RIGHT? FIRE PROTECTION IS ONE OF THEM. WATER IS GOING TO BE THE OTHER BIG ONE.

WE ACCOUNT FOR 50 POINTS, WATER ACCOUNTS FOR 40 POINTS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION, WHICH IS YOUR DISPATCH THAT PROVIDES FOR TEN POINTS.

AND THEN THEY GAVE US A LITTLE BONUS AREA THAT PROVIDES FOR ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF POINTS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE YOUR COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE ENTITIES THAT WE USE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO GET THIS CLASSIFICATION.

SO I BELIEVE WE'LL DO A GOOD JOB. I FEEL LIKE WE'LL KEEP OUR TWO CLASSIFICATION AND WE'LL GET THIS TOWER TRUCK.

AND WE HAVE AN EXTRA TOWER TRUCK ON THE FLOOR.

YEAH. I'M YEAH. I THINK LIKE THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU USE.

YES. PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL. THE PERSONNEL RESPONSE TIMES.

I THINK THE LAST TIME ONE OF THE BIG HANG UPS WAS WE WERE JUST JUST OUTSIDE THE CIRCLE ON STATION EIGHT, WEREN'T WE? STATION EIGHT WE'RE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR FROM, YOU KNOW, THE VERY EAST.

THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE SPOTS IN GALVESTON WHERE WE'RE KIND OF FAR OUT OF THAT CLASSIFICATION. WE LOSE SOME POINTS ON IT, AND YOU'RE LOOKING PROBABLY LIKE AT A POINT WEST AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT SPORTSMAN KIND OF DISTANCE WISE.

THOSE ARE THE TWO LITTLE. YOU CAN MAKE UP FOR THAT WITH THE DIFFERENT APPARATUS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE LADDER APPARATUS. IS OUR NEW FIRE STATION ON FIFTH STREET GOING TO HELP THAT AT ALL? WELL, YES AND NO.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP YOU LOCATION WISE, BUT IT'LL HELP YOU IN THAT IT WILL FINALLY BE ABLE TO HOUSE A LADDER. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH.

I MEAN, JUST OKAY THEN HAVING A LADDER IN THAT LOCATION SEEMS TO BE AN ADVANTAGE.

YES. ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS WITH, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT WITH JAMAICA BEACH AS WELL.

SO THAT ALSO A LITTLE BIT, NOT VERY MUCH, BUT OF COURSE, WATER AND DISPATCH IS GOING TO BE A BIG PART OF IT AS WELL.

YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO IS THERE A TIMELINE TO TRY TO GET TO A ONE? I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO GETTING TO ONE RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE A NEW SYSTEM WITH OUR TRAINING IN PLACE RIGHT NOW SPECIFICALLY SET FOR ISO.

IT DEPENDS HOW MUCH TRAINING WE DO. IT DEPENDS WHAT KIND OF TRAINING WE DO.

SO I'M GEARING TOWARDS, OF COURSE POSITIONING US FOR FOR AN ISO ONE.

BUT ULTIMATELY SOME OF THE MISHAPS WE WILL HAVE IS WITH SOMETIMES THE PERSONNEL AND THE EQUIPMENT, BUT I THINK WE'RE RECTIFYING THAT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. SO I'M TELLING YOU, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT NOW, I THINK WE'LL DEFINITELY BE PREPARED FOR OUR NEXT RATING.

BUT THAT RATING'S MAYBE USUALLY FIVE YEARS. CORRECT.

YEAH. IT'S A FINE LINE BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW FROM LIVING IN GALVESTON, YOUR FIRE INSURANCE IS YOUR CHEAPEST INSURANCE.

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SO, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT HELPS. YEAH. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO YOU DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES TO COVER A BUNCH OF APPARATUS THAT'S GOING TO LOWER YOUR, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM 2 TO 1. WE'RE REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW AS A TWO.

YEAH. YOU GOTTA THINK THIS IS THIS IS DONE IN EVERY COMMUNITY AROUND THE COUNTRY.

SO [INAUDIBLE] TO BE A BIG DEAL. OKAY. YEAH. GOOD.

THANK YOU. YES. 11.W THIS IS SEA WOLF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

THAT'S A FINALLY [INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL. ENGINEERING.

ROBB. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.

THERE'S SUCH A LONG HISTORY OF THIS [INAUDIBLE]. WE WE'RE GOING FROM 5000 TO 15,000.

YEAH. THE NEW PLANT WILL BE 15,000 GALLONS PER DAY.

OKAY. AND THAT CAPACITY, WHAT ARE WE BASING THAT CAPACITY ON? IN OTHER WORDS, WHO ARE WE GOING TO SERVE? SO BASICALLY RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST THE THE PARK THAT'S THERE, BUT IT'S FOR FUTURE EXPANSION OF ANYTHING ELSE WE WOULD NEED.

AND THESE ARE LIKE PORTABLE PLUG IN UNITS WE CAN EXPAND.

YEAH. THIS IS A MODULAR TYPE SYSTEM, CORRECT. IT'S MODULAR MODULAR.

OKAY. AND SOME OF THIS WAS BASED ON TWO. THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT EXPANSION OF THE NAVAL MUSEUM AND [INAUDIBLE] RV PARK OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE MAY DECIDE TO PUT OVER THERE, PLUS ANYTHING JUST OUTSIDE THE PARK AREA WITH A LIFT STATION THAT COULD GET TO THIS TOO.

OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS HOUR END RIGHT THERE.

YES. YEAH. JUST THAT. AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.

EVERYBODY ELSE. YEAH. WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR PROPERTY OVER THERE TO PUT ANOTHER PLAN IN.

AT SOME POINT. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT SCHEDULE ON THAT? SO THE GENERAL SCHEDULE, WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS, GET IT APPROVED.

I THINK THEY GOT ABOUT A YEAR FOR BUILDING IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND MOSTLY IT'S MANUFACTURING AND BRINGING EVERYTHING IN, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND DO A CONCRETE FOUNDATION, SOME UNDERGROUND PIPE WORK.

THERE'S A PACKAGE LIFT STATION THAT WILL TAKE FROM THE EXISTING COLLECTION SYSTEM AND PUMP IT UP INTO THE BASINS.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF COMPONENTS THERE, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE MASSIVELY INVASIVE.

ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW. ABOUT A YEAR. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO THIS PLANT. WHERE WILL IT BE LOCATED? YEAH. HERE. SO THE EXISTING PLANT IS RIGHT HERE KIND OF DECOMMISSIONED RIGHT NOW.

IT'S GOING TO BE THIS ONE JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT. OKAY.

AND WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLACE TO PUT IT. WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE MANUALLY PUMPING THE BASIN WITH PUMP TRUCKS.

SO IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE OPERATION. SO THIS IS BASICALLY REPLACING THE ONE THAT WAS DAMAGED DURING IKE.

BUT WE'RE DOING IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S EXPANDABLE.

IT'LL IT'LL TAKE EXPANSION FOR THE PARK. AND ALSO IF THERE'S ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THAT FAR EASTERN SIDE OF PELICAN ISLAND, EVENTUALLY THE PLANT COULD BE EXPANDED FOR THAT PURPOSE AS WELL.

WELL, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO PUT REAL RESTROOMS AT SEA WOLF.

YES. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED THIS.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED THIS. BUT THERE THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR ANOTHER TREATMENT PLAN OUT THERE AT SOME POINT? YES. SOMEWHERE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, WE WERE TALKING AND STILL TALKING WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON ABOUT POTENTIALLY ACQUIRING SOME PROPERTY CLOSER TO BRADNER WHERE THAT COULD TIE INTO IT BECAUSE THE PLANT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE RIGHT ON THE WATER'S EDGE.

IT COULD BE IN AND YOU LIFT IN AND OUT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

AND ALSO FOR ANOTHER FIRE STATION, WE WE BOUGHT PROPERTY FOR THAT FIRE STATION, RIGHT? NOT YET. WE'RE STILL HAGGLING WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON ON IT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DELAY WITH SOME OF THEIR OTHER WORKINGS WITH THE PORT OF GALVESTON.

SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT 11.Z.

THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE. BRANDON COOK, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. THIS IS ABOUT, WE DIDN'T SPEND ALL THE FUNDS IN THE FIRST PHASE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IN NEPA AND ALL THAT.

HOW DID HOW DID WE GET AWAY WITH THAT? I WAS JUST WONDERING. IT WAS REALLY JUST FROM THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE'VE BUILT THROUGHOUT THE PAST YEARS, OVER A DECADE NOW, AND ALL THE VETTING THAT TOOK PLACE BETWEEN THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, FEDERAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY, AND ALSO WITH THE HOUSTON-GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL STAFF OVER THERE.

AND SO EVERYBODY WAS REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT.

WE HAD THE PROOF OF CONCEPT DOWNTOWN ON 23RD STREET BETWEEN CHURCH STREET AND HARBORSIDE THERE, AND WE WOULD GO TO THE GOOGLE STREET VIEW AND JUST SHOW THEM EXACTLY WHAT A WAKE BREAK LOOKS LIKE.

AND YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF SHADE STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PICTURE SPEAKS A THOUSAND WORDS.

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AND SO ONCE THEY WERE ABLE TO SEE IT RIGHT THERE WITH THEIR OWN TWO EYES, THEY WERE LIKE, OH, YEAH, THIS IS GREAT. THIS MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FEDERAL MONEY. CHECK THE BOX AND THEN PUSH IT ON. SO THAT INITIAL PROJECT AGAIN PROVED TO BE SOME USEFUL LEVERAGE THAT ME AND SOMETHING DOLLARS.

WE SPENT LEVERAGE $24 MILLION. EXACTLY. THAT'S A GOOD RETURN.

YEAH. GOOD RETURN. ALSO, IT SAYS THAT THE CONSTRUCT, THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE WAS REDUCED BY 550 DAYS A YEAR AND A HALF.

CORRECT. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE WE CUT OUT ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL.

OH, THE TIME THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO HAVE TO DO THAT WAS NOW.

AND THAT WAS EQUAL TO 550 DAYS. YES. BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

AND YOU HAD ALL KIND OF OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL STEPS AND BUREAUCRACIES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT THROUGH AT THAT POINT.

SO. SO THIS STREAMLINED IT. IT BROUGHT BACK, YOU KNOW, WE WERE INITIALLY APPROVED FOR OVER 200 AND SOME THOUSAND.

THIS IS BRINGING BACK $150,000 TO THE TO THE DOWNTOWN PARKING FUND.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUSH ALL OF THE FUTURE COSTS ONTO THE GRANT NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL.

SO THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE FEDERAL MONEY. NO LOCAL PROPERTY TAX MATCH.

AND WE CAN'T USE THAT MONEY ON OTHER PARTS OF THIS PROJECT, IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE FEDERAL.

WELL, THIS IS THAT'S THE FIRST PART WAS ALL LOCAL MONEY THAT WE APPROVED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO SPEND ANY FEDERAL DOLLARS.

IT'S KIND OF A GATEKEEPING MEASURE. BUT ONCE WE GET THAT ENVIRONMENTAL DONE, NOW WE'RE ABLE TO TAP INTO THE FEDERAL MONEY NOW.

AND SO IT SAYS ON FUNDING SOURCES, 3.8 MILLION FROM SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BLOCK AND 93,680 ON DOWNTOWN PARKING MANAGEMENT FUND.

THAT 93680 IS REFLECTING THE SAVINGS? 93,000 IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY SPENT, INCURRED COSTS ON.

WE'RE SAVING ABOUT 154,000 OF WHAT WAS AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL.

OKAY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S FROM THE DOWNTOWN PARKING MANAGEMENT FUND.

THAT'S THE SAME FUND THAT PAYS FOR ALL OF THE, I GUESS GETTING THE GARBAGE OUT.

YEAH. PAYS FOR THE PAYS FOR THE CREWS DOWNTOWN, PAYS FOR THE DOWNTOWN POLICE OFFICER, PAYS FOR THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE TO CAR WASH LOCKS. YEAH, ALL THAT STUFF THAT PAYS FOR ALL OF THAT.

SO, IT'S YOUR BATHROOM MONEY. YEAH. YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.

WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE DO, BUT I THINK WE MAY BE ABLE TO SEE THAT IMPACT NOW IS GONE.

WE PAID THAT OUT. YES. SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO USING 100% OF THAT FOR WHAT WE NEED NEED TO MAINTAIN DOWNTOWN.

OKAY. THEN IT WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THE SEQUENCE OF TASKS BECAUSE THEY SEEM ALL KIND OF WONKY NOW OUT OF ORDER.

BUT THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS. SO WE'RE DONE WITH TASK ONE THROUGH THREE TASKS.

THERE'S 14 TASKS TOTAL. SO THE NEXT ONE IS TASK FOUR, PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

TASK NINE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND TASK TEN DESIGN AND BID PHASE FEDERAL COMPLIANCE.

I GET THE FEDERAL COMPLIANCE PART. BUT I GUESS THE WAY I'M UNDERSTANDING IT IS THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT IS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN PROCESS. SO AS THEY'RE DESIGNING THIS THING, THEY'RE USING STAKEHOLDER INPUT TO HELP THEM DESIGN IT.

CORRECT. YES. AND THAT JUST HAPPENS IN THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEN THEY GO INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND BIDDING AND NEGOTIATION.

CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION. YES. AND THEY DON'T NEED THOSE STAKEHOLDER INPUT AT THAT POINT BECAUSE THEY'VE LOCKED IN THE DESIGN.

RIGHT? YEAH. AND WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL ONCE WE GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE AND GET A VISION TOGETHER THAT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH.

AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND THEN BRING BACK A SCOPE FOR THE ACTUAL DESIGN AND SEEK AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED ON THAT PART.

SO WE WOULD, COUNCIL WOULD SEE THIS AGAIN, I GUESS, AFTER PRELIMINARY DESIGN AFTER STAKEHOLDER INPUT, WHEN THEY HAVE A SCHEMATIC DESIGN AND BEFORE THEY GO FURTHER WITH A SCHEMATIC DESIGN TO DEVELOP IT, THEN COUNCIL WILL SEE IT AND SAY, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND THEN THEY'LL GO ON DOWN THE ROAD. EXACTLY, GIVE THEM COUNCIL THE FULL CONTROL OVER THE ENTIRE PROCESS. MAKE SURE WE DON'T PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. ANY ANY GUESS WHEN THAT MIGHT BE.

RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SCOPING PROBABLY. WE'VE GOT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IN FEBRUARY OF 27 IS WHEN WE'RE PLANNING TO KICK THAT PART OFF.

OKAY. SO SOMETIME BEFORE THEN, IT'LL COME BACK.

YES. OKAY. BARRING ANY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, OF COURSE.

YEAH. OKAY. I THINK I THINK THAT CLEARS THAT FOR ME.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SHARON, DO YOU WANT TO, COME BACK TO YOU? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I MEAN, I'VE GOT ONE MORE. OH, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? YEAH. I'M SORRY. THIS IS LET ME SEE.

11.HH. THIS IS A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT HOME PARTNERSHIP.

REBECCA HENDERSON, GRANTS DIRECTOR. REBECCA. IN THE MAP, YOU HAVE THE AREAS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE

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AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE CBD OR THE DOWNTOWN IS NOT ELIGIBLE.

IS THAT RIGHT? SO IT RUNS FROM PRETTY MUCH ON HARBOR SIDE.

I HAVE A BLACK AND WHITE ONE, I'M SORRY, FROM HARBOR SIDE ALL THE WAY TO 61ST.

SO EVERYTHING THAT IS IN RED ARE AREAS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE.

SO THIS, THIS SEEMS TO BE CARVED OUT. YES, SIR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST ONE LITTLE AREA AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT LOW INCOME.

WHEN THEY DID THE CENSUS TRACKS BACK IN 2020, IT WASN'T LIMITED AREA.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DETERMINED.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT'S JUST THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

SO WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED AND MISS LEWIS HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT TOO.

WE, YOU CAN COME TO EITHER BRIAN, DAN OR MY OFFICE AND LET US KNOW IF ANY PROJECT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAY HAVE TO BE LOW INCOME OR IN A LOW INCOME AREA OR BENEFIT LOW CLIENTELES. AND SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS ONCE WE GET SOME PROJECTS, WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT AND GET THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT ON IT.

AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. AND THE BIG KICKER IS IT CAN'T BE DONE WHEN THERE'S CONTAMINATED LAND.

YES, SIR. AND JANELLE, ARE WE STILL LIVE STREAMING? I'M JUST ASKING MARISSA RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I GOT AN EMAIL THAT THE LIVE STREAM IS DOWN.

OKAY, LET US CHECK ON IT. HOLD UP FOR A MINUTE.

OKAY.

OH, HE'S CRUSHING IT. SIX HOMERS AGAINST THE RANGERS.

[INAUDIBLE] THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. YEAH. IT'S LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH IN LIKE [INAUDIBLE] YEARS.

OR WHAT IS IT ACTUALLY CALLED IN OUR [INAUDIBLE] STREAMING ON THE WEBSITE AND ALSO ON GTV.

IT'S, IT'S DOWN ON FACEBOOK LIVE. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE IT A MINUTE.

IT JUST DISCONNECTED FOR SOME REASON. SURE. LET'S WAIT AND SEE FOR A MINUTE IF THEY CAN GET IT FIXED.

AND IF NOT, WE'LL CONTINUE. OKAY.

JUST MOVE IT RIGHT ALONG. AND THEN TECHNICAL ISSUES AS QUIET AS I'VE EVER HEARD THIS GROUP.

DAMN, JEFF, HE MESSED IT UP. OH. I'M SORRY. QUIET TIME'S OVER.

IT HAD TO WAKE ME UP.

PROBABLY SCRAMBLING AT SWAGIT RIGHT NOW. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.

LET'S DO IT. OKAY. GO AHEAD. WE'RE BROADCASTING.

WE'RE JUST NOT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. SEE, WE WERE ON CDBG HOME PROGRAMS AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF THESE HAVE AMOUNTS, BUT NO PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. AND IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN COME TO YOU AND BUY IN AND KIND OF SUGGEST SOMETHING, SOME PROJECT OF SOME KIND THAT WE THINK IS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO USE THAT MONEY FOR AS LONG AS IT IS WITHIN THE 2026 COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPMENT HOUSING OBJECTIVES.

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YES, SIR. ONE OF THOSE AT THE BOTTOM THERE SAYS HOMELESS RESOURCES.

SO THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR ONE OF THESE PROJECTS? YES. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A HOMELESS GRANT THAT I CAME TO YOU IN NOVEMBER FOR NOVEMBER.

OKAY. FOR THAT IS, WE'RE DOING HOMELESS FOR $254,000 FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE. AND THEN WE GAVE ORGANIZATIONS FUNDING FOR LIKE TRANSPORTATION, SOCIAL SERVICES, MENTAL HEALTH AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND SO THAT WAS A SEPARATE GRANT THAT I BROUGHT TO YOU IN NOVEMBER.

BUT WE CAN USE IT ON THIS. IT'S JUST CDBG IS VERY TRICKY WHEN IT COMES TO HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE THERE IS USED TO BE THEY'RE TRYING TO PHASE IT OUT. A GRANT CALLED ESG EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT THAT IS STRICTLY FOR HOMELESSNESS.

SO, BUT GALVESTON DOES NOT QUALIFY BECAUSE I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING OFF TOPIC.

GALVESTON DOES NOT QUALIFY BECAUSE OUR COUNT THIS YEAR WAS 319 PEOPLE, WHICH MEANS WE ONLY HAVE 319 PEOPLE WITHIN THE GALVESTON COUNTY, NOT JUST IN THE CITY, BUT IN THE COUNTY OF HOMELESS PEOPLE.

THAT IS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT TRUE. BELIEVE ME, I HAVE, I HAVE, I HAVE, I HAVE RAISED THIS TO, TO THE HOMELESS COALITION AND EVERYTHING. THERE IS A DAY THAT WE, WE ARE REQUIRED BY HUD TO DO A PIT COUNT, NOT MY GROUP, BUT YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES.

THERE IS A SPECIFIC WEEK IN FEBRUARY THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO THE PIT COUNT.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE NOT OUT ON THE STREETS DURING FEBRUARY BECAUSE IT'S COLD, SO WE DON'T GET AN ACTUAL PICK COUNT.

MOST OF THEM ARE IN SHELTERS AND WE DON'T GO IN. THEY DON'T GO INTO SHELTERS.

SO IF THEY WOULD DO IT IN JUNE, JUNE, JULY, WHEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S OUT AT THE BEACH AND FINALLY EVERYBODY GOES HOME AND WE CAN TRULY SEE WHAT HOMELESSNESS IS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN ACCURATE COUNT OR SOMEWHAT OF A BETTER COUNT.

BUT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND THAT'S HUD'S WONDERFUL RULE.

OKAY. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU'VE GOT A LOT ON HERE FOR THE CITY MARSHAL.

180,000 FOR FOUR OFFICERS. YES, SIR. SO WE PAY TWO OFFICERS AT 100% OUT OF THE OUT OF MY BUDGET FOR THE CITY MARSHALS.

AND THEN WE PAY ONE AT 80% AND THEN ONE AT 30%.

THESE ARE THE GUYS DOING CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THE LMI AREAS.

RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT MOST OF THE ISLAND, EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WEST END AND DOWNTOWN.

HOW, HOW WILL WE SUSTAIN OR HOW CAN WE SUSTAIN THAT AFTER THIS RUNS OUT? SO GALVESTON IS AN ENTITLEMENT CITY, SO WE GET FUNDING EVERY YEAR.

THE QUESTION IS NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE TRUMP HAS IT ZEROED OUT IN HIS BUDGET.

HE HAS THE WHOLE PROGRAM HOME AND CDBG IS ZEROED OUT IN HIS BUDGET FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

OH MY. YES. SO I GUESS THE CITY WOULD PICK THEM UP IF IT GOES AWAY, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO PICK IT UP OR, OR CUT THOSE SERVICES.

YES, SIR. AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD BE GOING AWAY.

SO FOR US WE GOT AN INCREASE THIS YEAR. SO WE GOT 1.2.

SO 1.2 MILLION. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET FOR LAST YEAR WAS 3.3 BILLION ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

AND HE IS AXING IT ALL. THE APPROPRIATION COMMITTEES DID MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION WHICH IS TO SUSTAIN IT.

SALLY DID SEND ME AN ARTICLE YESTERDAY THAT SHOWS THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO PUSH BACK.

BUT YOU KNOW, UNTIL IT GETS THROUGH APPROPRIATION AND EVERYTHING IS VOTED ON, WE ARE IN LIMBO FOR NEXT YEAR.

IF ANYTHING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DELAY NEXT YEAR. I'M JUST A BILL ON CAPITOL HILL.

OKAY. YEAH. SO WE GOT 180,000 4 OFFICERS AND 12000 FOR DEMOLITION AND BOARD UP.

YES, SIR. THAT'S GREAT. AND THIS WOULD ONLY BE IN THE LMI? YES. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

BOB. YES. I WANT YOU TO IDENTIFY HER [INAUDIBLE] AND SAY [INAUDIBLE] NOT AREAS THAT ARE CONTAMINATED.

SO CAN WE GET A MAP OR STREET AREA OF CONTAMINATION? WELL, WE JUST KNOW WE CAN'T USE IT FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S. WE JUST CLEAR THAT UP BEFORE I ASK THAT.

YEAH, I DID BECAUSE THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION AS WELL.

OKAY. IF THERE IS SEVERE CONTAMINATION, THE CITY CAN APPLY FOR A BROWNFIELD GRANT.

RIGHT. WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH. AND IT'S HORRIBLE.

THE SECOND QUESTION ON SAFETY. WHAT ABOUT THOSE SLOW BUMPS I'VE THAT SLOW PEOPLE DOWN THROUGH THE COMMUNITY?

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ARE WE STILL. ARE THOSE STILL YOU KNOW. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THAT THOSE, OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE HAVE BEEN THAT THEY DO VERY LITTLE TO SLOW TRAFFIC.

THEY DAMAGE CARS AND THEY CAUSE MORE FLOODING ISSUES THAN THEY DO SOLVING SPEED ISSUES.

THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE RECOMMENDED THING TO USE ANYMORE.

CERTAINLY YOU COULD PROBABLY USE THEM FOR THAT.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE IF A NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS IT, YOU DO HAVE TO GET INPUT FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

AND WE, WE PUT IT IN AND WE ASK THE NEIGHBORS TO PAY FOR THE MATERIALS.

AND IT'S MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT A RECOMMENDED RESOURCE THAT THE CITY DOES.

MOST CITIES ARE GETTING AWAY FROM THESE SPEED HUMPS.

THEY WORK OKAY IN PARKING LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT AS FAR AS STREETS GO THEY TEND TO CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS AND DAMAGE THAN THEY DO ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE SPEEDING.

ALRIGHTY. BECAUSE THE ADDITION OF HOMES RIGHT THERE ON 45TH, THE HOA PERSON WAS ASKING ABOUT THEM.

SO YOU'RE TELLING ME NONE OF THIS FUNDING CAN BE USED FOR THAT? IT COULD BE THOSE. AM I CORRECT THAT THOSE ARE CONCRETE STREETS? YES, YES, YES. YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY TURN RIGHT ON 40, 45TH.

THAT'S IN A CIRCULAR AREA LIKE THAT. THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT STORY.

BUT BEFORE WE WOULD DO IT, WE'D HAVE TO DO A SPEED SURVEY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD EVEN QUALIFY. YEAH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. NO MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MOST OF MINE WERE ANSWERED.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT I HAD WAS THERE WAS AN ITEM ON HERE ABOUT SOME COMPUTERS THAT JUST HAD A I THINK THE WRONG NUMBER IN THERE. IT SAID 14 INSTEAD OF 30 JUST ON THE.

I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY. YEAH, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT THAT GOT UPDATED.

IT'S 30. OKAY. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL MOVE ON AND WE'RE DONE WITH STAFF. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS MORNING.

THANKS GUYS. APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP. JANELLE WILL YOU, SO 4.B WE ARE GOING TO PULL THAT.

[4.B Discussion of the Selection and Funding of a Consultant for the City/Port Mobility Study (C Brown - 20 min)]

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. WE'LL BRING THAT BACK NEXT MONTH.

YEAH. OKAY. BACK IN JUNE AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO 4.C.

[4.C Discussion of the nomination packet and prioritized list of the Census Tracts located in the City of Galveston that are eligible for designation in the federal Opportunity Zone 2.0 Program (M. Hay - 15 min)]

OKAY. FOUR C DISCUSSION OF THE [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT THAT I KNOW IT.

SHE'S WANTING TO KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE DISCOVERY SANDS ITEM BEING PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.

IT'S BEING MOVED. YEAH. SO WE. SO THE DEVELOPER DID PULL THAT CASE LATE LAST WEEK.

AND SO IT STILL SHOWS ON OUR AGENDA, BUT WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING IT AT OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK IN JUNE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM 4.C DISCUSSION OF THE NOMINATION PACKET AND PRIORITIZED LIST OF THE CENSUS TRACTS LOCATED IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR DESIGNATION IN THE FEDERAL OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0 PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MICHELLE HAY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR HERE AT THE CITY.

WE BROUGHT UP THE FEDERAL INCENTIVE PROGRAM, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0 PROGRAM A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND AT THE TIME WE HAD SOME POTENTIAL ELIGIBLE CENSUS TRACKS THAT WE COULD NOMINATE.

AND WE WERE WAITING FOR THE US TREASURY TO COME BACK WITH THE FINAL ELIGIBLE TRACTS.

SO YOU RECEIVE THOSE BACK PRETTY MUCH GALVESTON HAD 11 ELIGIBLE CENSUS TRACTS.

AND WHAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO IS IT'S A FEDERAL INCENTIVE, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY COST THE CITY ANYTHING FOR THE PROGRAM, BUT IT DOES ALLOW INVESTMENT IN TO SOME OF OUR LOWER MORE POVERTY STRICKEN OR LOW MOD AREAS WHERE THERE'S NOT BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. PROVIDES AN INVESTOR WITH SOME CAPITAL GAINS EXEMPTIONS TO INVEST IN THOSE AREAS.

SO WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT CENSUS TRACTS AND WE WILL BE PUTTING TOGETHER A NOMINATION PACKET TO SEND TO THE TO THE COUNTY, UP TO THE STATE. AND THE STATE WILL LOOK AT THOSE STATES OR STATES ARE ELIGIBLE TO NOMINATE 25% OF THE ELIGIBLE CENSUS TRACTS. AND SO WE WANTED TO COME TO YOU ALL WITH A DRAFT RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT.

THE LIST OF THOSE 11 CENSUS TRACTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE.

WE DID GO THROUGH AND PRIORITIZE THEM BASED UPON THOSE WE FELT WOULD WARRANT HAVE THE MOST OPPORTUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR JUST,

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YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY IN GENERAL. AND THEN CAN SERVE AS CATALYST FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'VE TAKEN THIS LIST. WE'VE GONE THROUGH GEOGRAPHICALLY, I'VE PUT TOGETHER THE LIST AND THEN THE MAP.

I KNOW WE HAD THE MAP IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I ADDED THE LITTLE RED NUMBERS OUT BESIDE THE EACH CENSUS TRACT WHERE WE PRIORITIZE THEM.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT EASIER. SO FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE THAT MADE THE TOP OF THE LIST WAS THE CENSUS TRACK THAT INCORPORATES PELICAN ISLAND AND PRETTY MUCH A BIG CHUNK OF NORTH BROADWAY TO HARBORSIDE.

SORRY. I'M STILL TRYING TO GET MY VOICE BACK FROM BEING SICK.

YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ALREADY SOME DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WITH PELICAN ISLAND, WITH THE DAVIE DEFENSE.

I KNOW THOSE FOLKS HAVE BEEN LOOKING VERY CLOSELY AT OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD HAVE AN ELIGIBLE, YOU KNOW, BE ELIGIBLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, 1100 ACRES OVER THERE.

WE HAVE THE LARGE TRACTS OF LAND THAT THE, THE COUNTY OWNS BETWEEN 54TH AND 57TH.

THAT WOULD BE RIPE FOR OPPORTUNITY THERE AND COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE.

SO WE JUST KIND OF WENT THROUGH, AND THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF LOOKED AT EACH OF THE CENSUS TRACTS AND PRIORITIZED THAT DEVELOPMENT I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL TODAY.

MAKE SURE THAT LIST WAS GOOD WITH YOU, AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED TO PUSH THAT UP TO THE TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT'LL MAKE IT THE OFFICIAL LIST.

DOES THE, IS THIS THE MAX THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO? YES. SO THESE ARE THIS WAS ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE TRACTS THAT THEY THAT THE, THE US TREASURY PROVIDED TO US.

AND THEN YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DO OBVIOUSLY NOMINATE LESS BUT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

OUR COUNTY ITSELF, EACH COUNTY, IF YOU HAVE THERE'S A MAP, THERE'S A TABLE IN THERE.

IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN 50 ELIGIBLE CENSUS TRACTS IN THE COUNTY, YOU CAN SUBMIT 100% OF THEM.

SO COUNTIES THAT HAD MORE THAN 50 CENSUS TRACTS HAD TO CHOOSE.

SO WE'RE PRIORITIZING, BUT IT MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE OVERKILL FOR US, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE SETTING UP.

SO THE COUNTY HAS THE FINAL SAY. YES, BUT THERE ARE ONLY 26 ELIGIBLE CENSUS TRACTS IN THE COUNTY.

SO THE COUNTY IS LIKELY GOING TO SUBMIT THEM ALL.

AND WE'RE 11 OF THEM. YEAH. THEY DON'T COME CLOSE TO 50.

AND THEN WHAT IS THE THE ONLY ONE THAT I SEE IS THE EXISTING ADDING TO THE LIST.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE, WE COULD, THE EXISTING CENSUS TRACT THE ONE FROM 53RD TO THE EAST END ALL THE WAY TO.

THE EAST END, EASTON FLATS. JUST, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE PRIORITY IS FOR EASTON FLATS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THESE ARE SET TO EXPIRE. I BELIEVE 28.

SO IF ANY, NOT THE EXISTING, THE NEW ONES, THE NEW ONES, IT'LL GO FOR TEN YEARS.

SO IT'LL BE 38. WOULD IT BE NOT BENEFICIAL TO LOOK AT AT KEEPING THAT ONE ON OR ADDING IT TO THE LIST TO FOR ANY FUTURE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE EASTON FLATS? I. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE CAN ONLY CHOOSE FROM THE ELIGIBLES, BUT I WILL LOOK AT WHAT THE WHERE THAT FALLS IN THE 20% POVERTY RATE AND THE 70%. YEAH.

AND I'LL LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW CLOSE IT IS AND THEN SEE IF THERE'S POTENTIAL TO IF THERE IS, I WOULD, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A BIG PRIORITY FOR AT LEAST WE HAVE A HUGE PLOT OF LAND OUT THERE.

IT'S DREDGE SPOIL. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT. AND IN TEN YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE HOUSING NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE. SO I AGREE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.

ADDING THAT FOR AT LEAST NUMBER 12 ON THE LIST.

AND WHAT DOES THAT CENSUS TRACK? IT INCLUDES ALL YOU KNOW, IT'S A REALLY CHARACTERIZED VERY DIFFERENTLY.

THE EAST END FLATS ARE JUST THAT DREDGE FILL.

THE REST OF IT IS ALL DEVELOPED. I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT, THOUGH.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT JUST LIKE PELICAN ISLAND, MOSTLY PORT INDUSTRIAL AND A SCHOOL.

AND THOSE BOUNDARIES ARE NOT THOSE BOUNDARIES ARE ARE DICTATED BY CENSUS TRACT.

THE, PREVIOUSLY THEY WEREN'T TIED SPECIFICALLY TO CENSUS TRACT LIKE THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THE LOW MOD AS THEY ARE NOW.

THEY'VE COME OUT WITH FEW SPECIFICS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE POINT WAS TO, TO PUT DOLLARS INTO AREAS THAT WERE BLIGHTED AND NEEDED THAT INVESTMENT.

AND IT WASN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS THE CASE IN THE FIRST ROUND.

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SO THIS TIME THEY'RE DRIVING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY.

WE CAN'T WE CAN'T MANIPULATE THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT PARTICULAR TRACT.

THIS LONG TRACT HERE IS ONE ZONE. IT'S NOT BROKEN UP INTO IS THAT ONE CENSUS TRACT.

I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. BUT IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH INCOME.

AND YEAH, IN THAT THOSE RACCOONS OUT THERE LIVING PRETTY RICH.

AND I WAS TELLING YOU. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, YEAH, I AGREE WITH ALEX.

I'LL LOOK TO SEE WHERE THAT FELL ON STRATEGIC ON THE LIST IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

THAT'S A BIG I THINK THAT'S A BIG POINT THAT WE SHOULDN'T LEAVE OFF THE TABLE IF, IF WE, IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP IT AND WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF TRACTS, I MEAN, AVAILABLE TO US, YOU KNOW, IF WE GO FROM 11 TO 12, BIG DEAL.

SO THAT THE EXISTING ZONE THERE IN PINK, THAT IS ONE CENSUS TRACK, I, I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE, I WILL DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I THINK IT DID BUY IT DELINEATED THE, THE BLACK LINES ARE CENSUS TRACTS.

SO THE [INAUDIBLE] CENSUS TRACT. YEAH, YEAH. AND BACK WHEN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY FORMED OR DESIGNATED.

IT WAS A, IT WAS UNDER A DIFFERENT STANDARD. YES.

YES. AND AND I KNOW WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE INPUT IN IT.

IT WAS KIND OF COME UP AT THE LAST MINUTE. 2016 IT WAS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE AN INPUT. THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT AHEAD OF THIS.

OKAY. AND ALLOWED YOU GUYS HAVE SOME INPUT AND SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE FELL WITHIN YOUR DISTRICTS.

I THINK DISTRICT SIX IS THE ONLY DISTRICT THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY CENSUS TRACTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE, BUT JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER DISTRICT HAS. SO, SO YOU'LL BRING THIS BACK TO US.

SO I, WHY DON'T YOU LET ME DO SOME HOMEWORK HERE AFTER THE MEETING, AFTER THE WORKSHOP, AND I'LL SEE HOW CLOSELY THAT WOULD BE. AND THEN I'LL MAKE SOME CALLS.

THIS IS SET TO BE ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT FOR THE RESOLUTION.

THE REASON WE HAVE IT THIS MONTH IS BECAUSE WE NEED TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING BY THE END OF JUNE, WHICH WOULD BE THE DAY AFTER NEXT COUNCIL MEETING SO WE CAN.

IT SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING TERRIBLE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY THINK.

YES, MAYBE YOU CAN SUBMIT FOR IT. THEN MAYBE WE CAN PUSH IT BACK.

AND IF NOT, IF THEY'RE. NO, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO IT.

YEAH. SEE IF YOU CAN GET THIS INFORMATION BY THE COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. I MEAN, EVEN IF NOT, I GUESS WE COULD APPROVE IT WITH A, WITH A CAVEAT THAT WE TRY TO IF WE CAN GET THAT ADDITIONAL ONE, THEN WE WILL. I'M SURE WE CAN PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE. YEAH. OKAY.

I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. THIS WAS BACK, I THINK 16 YOU SAID, AND I THINK THAT CAME UNDER 2018 IS WHEN IT WAS FINISHED. OKAY. BUT I MEAN, WAS DESIGNATED.

SO WHEN IT IS DESIGNATED AS A OPPORTUNITY ZONE, WHICH THIS WAS THEN IS THERE ANY KIND OF LIMIT AS TO HOW LONG IT CAN. IT'S A TEN YEAR AND SO IT WILL GO AWAY. THE END OF 2028.

YEAH. SO THERE WILL BE SOME OVERLAP, THESE 2.0 DESIGNATIONS WILL START JANUARY OF 27.

FOR THE NEW. THE 2.0 AND THEN THE OTHERS WILL ROLL OFF IN 28.

SO THERE'S ASSESSMENT PRIOR TO THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE.

ALL RIGHT. AND ONE OTHER QUESTION. I SEE THE STAFF IS ON THERE.

SO NOW IT CAN SOMEONE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT'S IT.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE ZONE 7240 INCLUDES THE THE BROADWAY PARCEL FROM 57 TO 50 FOURTH BY THE [INAUDIBLE].

YES IT DOES. OKAY. AND THE SECOND ONE, THE SECOND RANKING INCLUDES THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BUILDING.

YES. YES. I MEAN, WE GOT WE GOT EVERYTHING. A LOT OF STUFF COVERED HERE.

YEAH. MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE HOW WILL WE LEVERAGE WHEN WE GET THIS ALL DONE? HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THIS TO PROMOTE INVESTMENT.

I MEAN, HOW DO WE, CAN WE USE THIS PROGRAM TO LEVERAGE OTHER PROGRAMS? IN OTHER WORDS, STACK THESE INCENTIVES UP. AND HOW DO WE HOW DO WE TARGET.

IN OTHER WORDS, I'M INTERESTED IN IMPLEMENTING THIS ONCE WE GET IT DONE.

WELL, THIS IS GOING TO BE ENTIRELY UP TO THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPER INVESTOR TO SET THIS UP.

THERE IS A QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY FUND THAT I'M DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE DIGGING ON TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT ALL THAT ENTAILS, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO DO THE WORK ON.

STATE, THEIR STATE LEADS WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON HOW BIG OR SMALL THE DEVELOPER IS.

IF IT'S SMALLER, I'M SURE MICHELLE COULD SHARE WITH THEM, HEY, YOU'RE IN AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ZONE, BUT IT FEELS LIKE A BIGGER, A BIGGER STATE LEAD.

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THEY'LL, THEY'LL BASICALLY SHARE THEM WITH THEM.

HEY, JUST BASICALLY FROM THE TOP DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, THIS IS ALL I WAS THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHING SOME SPECIFIC PROJECTS. AND THEN LOOKING AT THEM AND SEEING WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE AND THEN MARKETING THEM.

WAS THIS WAS THE CURRENT OPPORTUNITY ZONE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF? DID ANYBODY. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE ONLY HAD ONE POTENTIAL AND THAT WAS WITH THE MARGARITAVILLE HOTEL.

BUT I THINK THEY THEY'RE NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO BE AS BIG OF A BENEFIT JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ENDING HERE PRETTY SOON.

SO THEY CAN GET EVERYTHING IN THERE. DOES IT HAVE TO BE COMPLETED BY THE DATE OR IS IT TO BE INITIAL INVESTMENT? I THINK SOME INITIAL INVESTMENTS. SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY USED THIS OPPORTUNITY ZONE AT ALL.

NOT YET. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TELL US THEY'RE DOING IT NECESSARILY.

I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE SECOND ROUND PROGRAM.

BUT BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE AWARE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TALK TO FOLKS ABOUT IT AND LET THEM KNOW.

SO CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON HOW WE COORDINATE WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY AND THE STATE ON THIS, THESE PROJECTS? SO WE HAVE THE THE COUNTY, THE LET ME BACK UP, THE BAY AREA HOUSTON ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP IS SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND SUCH, AND THEN REACHED OUT TO THE CITIES AND SAID, OKAY, WE CAN SUBMIT AS ONE BIG PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, AND PUSH THAT UP TO THE STATE OR YOU CAN SUBMIT ON YOUR OWN.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO BOTH. I THINK HITCHCOCK IS SUBMITTING ON THEIR OWN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SEND THIS, YOU KNOW TO MARK MITCHELL THAT THEY HAVE. AND THEN HE'S GOING TO SEND IT UP TO THE STATE.

AND THEN THE STATE WILL, WE SHOULDN'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM FROM WHAT I CAN READ, WHILE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS TO, YOU KNOW, CAN ONLY SUBMIT UP TO 25% OF ELIGIBLE TRACTS, I THINK BY THE TIME EVERYBODY SUBMITS, EACH COUNTY SUBMITS THEIRS, THEN THEY WILL HAVE ALREADY CALLED DOWN TO THAT 25%.

SO THEY SHOULD JUST BE ABLE TO TAKE IT UNLESS THEY CHOOSE TO PICK AND CHOOSE SOME OTHER AREAS, WHICH IS WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THESE SPECIFICS.

BUT THEN THEY'LL THEN SEND THAT OFF TO THE TO THE US TREASURY.

WAS THIS THE SAME STRATEGY THAT WE USED BEFORE? WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY. NO, THIS WAS NOT THE SAME STRATEGY BEFORE AT ALL.

THE CITY IS NOT THE ONE WHO SUBMITTED FOR THIS? I, I DO NOT KNOW. I WAS WITH THE THIS IS WHAT. I THINK IT JUST KIND OF IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT JUST HAPPENED. I DON'T THINK THE CITY HAD ANY INPUT. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN JUST A STATE. YEAH.

I DON'T EVEN THINK IT WENT TO THE COUNTY LEVEL. YEAH. GO AHEAD.

YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY AT ONE TIME, AND I THINK WE WERE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A REVISION TO THAT.

AND AND THAT APPLIES IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENT ABOUT ACTUALLY USING THIS OPPORTUNITY ZONE AND OTHERS LIKE 380S AND NEW MARKET CREDITS AND OTHER OTHER THINGS TO BE ABLE TO STACK, TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE HAVE ALL DECIDED WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN PROMOTING AND DO THAT ANALYSIS, TRY TO LEVERAGE THOSE THINGS AND GO AFTER THOSE PROJECTS AND ACTIVELY MARKET THEM AND ACTIVELY TRY TO GET SOMETHING DONE SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE THESE INCENTIVES.

THAT'S MY THAT IS ACTUALLY MY PLAN. AND I'M PLANNING TO BRING THAT BACK FOR NEXT MONTH.

OKAY. ONCE WE HAVE A FULLY SEATED COUNCIL AND I KIND OF TWEAKED, STARTED THINKING ABOUT SOME OTHER ASPECTS OF THE POLICY.

AND IN THE BACK END OF IT, THE COMPLIANCE PIECE.

AND SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME IDEAS AND WANT TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ALL FOR SOME DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH.

AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU COULD USE A DEVELOPER COULD USE IN THESE ZONES? BASICALLY, IT'S AN EXEMPTION ON SOME CAPITAL GAINS.

CAPITAL GAINS? PRETTY MUCH. YEAH. AND THERE'S A FIVE AND TEN YEAR PERIOD WHERE I THINK IF IF YOU ARE INVESTED IN THE PROJECT GOES ON FOR TEN YEARS, I BELIEVE IT'S YOU GET TO THE LONGER YOU HOLD IT, EXEMPT IT ALL.

YEAH. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WANTS TO SEE THIS TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT REAL ESTATE HERE THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE INCENTIVES ON THE CAPITAL GAINS AND EVERYTHING BE REALIZED.

SO, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A MAJOR PROJECT LIKE THIS WITH MAJOR RESOURCES, IT'S ALWAYS MORE THAN JUST FILING PAPERWORK, PAPERWORK. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW BEST TO TRACK THIS AND HOW WE CAN BE RESOURCES AS WELL TO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME IDEAS, WHETHER THAT'S COORDINATING DIRECTLY WITH BAYHEP OR COORDINATING DIRECTLY WITH THE STATE USING RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE THAT COULD BE

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UTILIZED AS WELL. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THIS AND SEE HOW WE CAN CAPITALIZE ON THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I DO KNOW WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ALREADY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE 1.0, A LITTLE BLURB ON THE WEBSITE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND SUCH.

AND SO I WANT TO SPIFF THAT UP ONCE WE'VE FINALIZED THE POLICY AND THEN WE'RE USING IT.

THE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO'VE REACHED OUT ON THE BUILDING, JUST AS AN ANECDOTE I'M TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, IN THE, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THIS, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, AS ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES. AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE HISTORIC TAX CREDITS.

YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE DO, WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING TO, WHENEVER I'M TALKING WITH SOMEONE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A PIECE OF LAND OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, LAY IT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

THERE'S ALWAYS USUALLY MORE THAN ONE INCENTIVE, AND WHEN YOU STACK THEM UP, YOU REALLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, I SEE THIS AS BEING A PRIORITY FOR THE IDC AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRACKING IT THERE ON A ROUTINE BASIS AND EVERYTHING TO SEE WHAT THE INTEREST IS AND HOW WE CAN COORDINATE BEST WITH ALL THESE EXTERNAL PARTNERS.

SOUNDS GOOD. I LIKE THE WAY YOU ALL ARE THINKING.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE JUNE MEETING AND THE POLICY.

ONE MORE QUESTION. YEAH. AS FAR AS THE AMERICAN INDEMNITY BEING ON HERE AND THAT'S PART OF THE CLASSIFICATIONS.

IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE'RE APPLYING FOR THIS IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE CURRENT OWNER AS FAR AS GETTING THAT PLACE A LITTLE BUTTONED UP AS FAR AS PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT OF IT? WE ACTUALLY HAVE A POTENTIAL BUYER FOR THAT PROPERTY [INAUDIBLE]. THANK GOD.

YEAH. SO THANK GOD. FINGERS CROSSED. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT. 4.D, PLEASE. JANELLE. 4.D.

[4.D Discussion of Seawall Parking mail in ticket program (Porretto/Listowski - 10 min)]

DISCUSSION OF SEAWALL PARKING MAIL IN TICKET PROGRAM.

PORRETTO. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE JUST GET THE MUSCLES UP HERE, TOO? BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE DISCUSSING IT. SURE. I.

DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE SAW THE ABC 13 STORY ABOUT THE PARKING.

WE ARE WRITING, WHAT, 44,000 TICKETS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS? SO MY NAME IS HEATHER MORRIS. I'M THE CITY MARSHAL HERE IN GALVESTON.

SO THE 40, THE NUMBER THAT WAS QUOTED IN THE ARTICLE WAS AN EXPANDED PERIOD OF TIME.

SO IT WASN'T JUST FOR ONE YEAR, BUT TWO YEARS.

TWO YEARS. YEAH, IT WAS OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT I DID WAS I LOOKED AT THE 2023 NUMBERS.

SO 2023 WAS THE LAST FULL YEAR THAT WE WERE ISSUING TICKETS BY HAND.

SO WE WOULD USE A TICKET MACHINE. WE WOULD STOP IN TRAFFIC ON THE SEAWALL.

I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN. AND THEN WE THEN WE PIVOTED FROM THAT, AND THEN OUR PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WOULD FIND A PARKING SPOT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO AND HAVE TO WALK OVER TO THE VEHICLE TO HANDWRITE A CITATION.

IT'S NOT VERY EFFICIENT. AND SO IN 2023, HANDWRITING CITATIONS, WE ISSUED ABOUT 3200 CITATIONS ON THE SEAWALL. AND LOOKING AT THE 2025 NUMBERS WHERE WE WERE FULL TICKET BY MAIL AND NOT ISSUING THE HANDWRITTEN CITATIONS FOR PARKING BY THE PAID PARKING VIOLATIONS.

THIS WOULD BE STRICTLY THE PAID PARKING VIOLATIONS.

WE ISSUED ABOUT 25,000 TICKETS IN 2025 FOR NOT PAYING FOR PARKING.

AND SO I LOOKED AT THE AMOUNT OF HOW MANY PEOPLE DID PAY FOR PARKING.

AND THAT'S ABOUT 290,000 PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY PAID FOR THEIR PARKING.

SO THE TICKET BY MAIL SYSTEM IS A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO ISSUE PARKING CITATIONS.

AND BECAUSE IT KEEPS THE LANES FREE AND TIMING WISE, WE CAN JUST EFFICIENTLY PROCESS MORE CITATIONS. AND SO REALLY, IT IDENTIFIES THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T PAY FOR THEIR PARKING.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, SAY, 290,000 PEOPLE THAT PAID FOR PARKING VERSUS THE 25,000 PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T PAY FOR PARKING AND WERE ISSUED CITATIONS, YOU'RE PROBABLY LIKE 8.5% OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T PAYING FOR THEIR PARKING.

SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I FEEL LIKE THE STORY IS REALLY THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T PAYING FOR PARKING.

SO THE 40,000 OR THE 25 NUMBER SEEMS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT THIS IS THE CITY IDENTIFYING THE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T PAID FOR THEIR PARKING.

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WELL, 290,000 PEOPLE DID PAY FOR THEIR PARKING.

SO TO ME, THIS PRESENTS A, YOU KNOW, A FEW A FEW DIFFERENT ASPECTS, RIGHT? WE'RE THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY, AT LEAST THAT I COULD FIND IN TEXAS THAT SENDS THE MAIL IN TICKETS.

UNLESS I'M WRONG, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT AND IDENTIFIED.

THE SECOND THING IS WHAT MADE THE PARKING PROGRAM SO SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WENT FROM CITY UNDER THE PARK BOARD'S JURISDICTION AND BACK TO THE CITY.

THE PARK BOARD HAD A AMBASSADOR PROGRAM WHERE THEY HAD PEOPLE PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU SHOULD HAVE, THIS IS HOW YOU WORK THE PROGRAM, RIGHT? THIS IS HOW YOU HAVE THAT HOW YOU DOWNLOAD THE APP AND PAY PAY BY PHONE TO HELP PROMOTE THE COMPLIANCE ASPECT OF IT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANYONE TO GO PARK ON THE SEAWALL AND NOT COMPLY WITH THAT, BUT WE SHOULD BE STRIVING ON HOW WE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE'RE GETTING THE TICKETS THAT NEED TO BE WRITTEN, WRITTEN, BUT IT'S ALSO CAUSING A, I WOULD SAY, MORE OF A BUREAUCRATIC BACKLOG OF FINES AND FEES. SO HOW DO WE KIND OF LOWER THAT AND INCREASE COMPLIANCE ON SEAWALL PARKING? AND THE OTHER COMPLAINT THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE WAS THERE'S NO IDENTIFICATION THAT, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A MAIL IN TICKET, WHICH I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE CAN ARGUE THAT THERE'S TOO MANY SIGNS ON SEAWALL.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING OUT THERE BASED ON THIS.

AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO PUT OUT MORE PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT NOTIFYING PEOPLE THAT THAT THIS IS HOW OUR SYSTEM IS GOING TO OPERATE, THAT THERE WILL BE A TICKET BY MAIL SYSTEM IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING TO PARK, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A VERY, VERY SLIM CHANCE THAT IF YOU DON'T PAY TO PARK, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE A CITATION.

I MEAN, IT'S IF YOU DON'T PAY TO PARK, CHANCES ARE EXTREMELY HIGH THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A CITATION.

AND SO, BUT I DO, I DO AGREE THAT WE CAN DO MORE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTING, MORE ADVERTISING, MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW OUR PROCESS IS GOING TO WORK THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE A CITATION.

OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU MENTIONED, HESITANT TO ADD ANOTHER SIGN ON THE SEAWALL SAYING, HEY, THIS IS TICKET BUY.

YOU KNOW, YOU'LL RECEIVE A TICKET BY MAIL IF YOU DON'T PAY FOR THE PARKING. BUT WE CAN DO MORE PUBLIC AWARENESS ON THAT MATTER.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, VISIT GALVESTON, THAT REALLY HAS THE, THE, THE MOST ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON THE, ON THE ISLAND. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING GO TO THE VISIT GALVESTON WEBSITE AND SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET TICKETS TO GALVESTON.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT BUT IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO COORDINATE WITH THEM IN THEIR OUTREACH AND HOW THEY DO IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE STEWART AND [INAUDIBLE] ARE GOING TO BE DOING THE SAME THING.

ARE DOING THE SAME THING. ARE DOING IT. YEAH.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS IS KIND OF A COORDINATION.

BUT ONE THING I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO OFFSET THE BLACK EYES THAT WE GET AS FAR AS NOT GETTING ALL THE FACTS OUT THERE WITH THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE COME IN WITH PHYSICAL STOPS AND SET IN 2023, INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL MAIL IN IN 2025.

IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE COULD SHOW HOW SOME OF THAT MONEY IS BEING SPENT, YOU KNOW, POSITIVELY TOWARDS SEAWALL AMENITIES OF COURSE, AFTER COST OF, OF THE MARSHALLS THAT ACTUALLY ISSUED THE TICKETS AND THE COST OF, AND WE DON'T PAY FOR ANY ENFORCEMENT OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE FUNDS ON THE SEAWALL. OKAY. THE ENFORCEMENT MONEY COMES FROM THE PENALTIES.

IT GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT HELPS FUND THAT.

BUT BECAUSE IT'S A BEACH USER FEE UP THERE, IT CANNOT BE USED FOR ENFORCEMENT.

SO IF THERE WAS AN ABILITY, YOU KNOW, TO ACTUALLY SHOW THAT WE WE UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, INCREASING AMENITIES AND SHOWING THAT WE'RE GIVING BACK AND THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE'RE COLLECTING THESE FEES.

I THINK IT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT START JUST IN COORDINATION.

I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S OUT OF THE ORDINARY DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] IT'D BE GREAT TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PUBLIC INFORMATION RELEASE TO, TO SHOW THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE AND HOW MUCH OF IT WE SPEND SOME OF IT TO THE PARK BOARD SEAWALL. AND THAT'S, THAT'S MONEY THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TO PAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THAT'S NOT ONLY IMPORTANT FOR THE LOCALS.

YOU KNOW, IT CREATES A SENSE OF PRIDE, AND IT CREATES A SENSE OF WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO.

YOU BET. WOULD, MARTY, WOULD YOU? I KNOW IT WAS BEFORE YOUR TIME, BUT YOU REMEMBER THAT AMBASSADOR PROGRAM? YEAH. WHEN WE HAD THE LITTLE

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YEAH. WAS THAT SUPPLEMENTED THAT PROGRAM SUPPLEMENTED BY THE BEACH USER FEE? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO WAS IT SO YOU CAN ENCOURAGE COMPLIANCE WITH IT BUT YOU CAN'T ENFORCE IT.

YEAH. SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A NET POSITIVE IT WORKED FOR A WHILE.

BUT NOW THESE THESE PAY BY PHONE SYSTEMS ARE SO PREVALENT EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT PEOPLE WERE NOT ENGAGING WITH IT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WE'RE LOSING.

AND I MEAN, IT'S $1.3 MILLION IN FEES AND FINES.

AND HOW MUCH DO YOU ACTUALLY COLLECT ON THAT? BUT IF WE CAN HAVE A NET POSITIVE, IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN AGREEMENT OR COORDINATION WITH THE PARK BOARD GETTING COMPLIANCE USING THOSE FUNDS TO OFFSET THE COST.

I MEAN, IF IT'S A 2 TO 1, I THINK IT'S A NET POSITIVE AND IT'S A BETTER BEACH BEACH EXPERIENCE WHERE YOU COME DOWN AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A PERSON ON A SCOOTER SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET A TICKET, PAY BY PARKING, THAT SORT OF DEAL. AND IF YOU DO GET A TICKET BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HANDICAP PLACARD, BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST HERE'S HOW YOU DISPUTE IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO SEE HAPPEN WITH THAT PROGRAM.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF MY IDEA.

JASON. SURE. AND THIS KIND OF PIGGYBACKS OVER WHAT ALEX IS SAYING.

AND I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION YOU KNOW, TO GO FROM ONE EXTREME TO THE OTHER THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS NEWS REPORT AND EVERYTHING, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND IN THERE THAT PROBABLY WORKS BEST.

SO WHAT IN YOUR OPINION, ARE THERE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE TO THE PROGRAM? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE TO MAKE IT MORE CONSISTENT YEAR TO YEAR MOVING FORWARD.

IS IT STILL A PROBLEM TO HAVE A CAR GOING DOWN SEAWALL? A MARSHAL'S CAR THAT'S THAT STOPS. WOULD IT BE BETTER TO HAVE SOMEONE PATROLLING ON THE SEAWALL ON FOOT IN THE SEGWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR MIND AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE OVERALL SYSTEM? SO I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE GETTING IT OUT MORE PUBLICLY AND DISCUSSING IT MORE PUBLICLY, LIKE WE JUST DISCUSSED HERE AND COUNCIL MEMBER RAWLINS SUGGESTION ON SHOWING HOW WE'RE USING THE, THE MONEY AND MORE VOCAL ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT DOING SEGWAYS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE THOUGHT OF AS WELL IS STILL A SLOW PROCESS.

IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A SLOW PROCESS BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED TO YOU'LL STILL NEED TO STOP AND HANDWRITE THOSE CITATIONS.

SO IT MAY BE EASIER ACCESS THAN A VEHICLE. BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE STOPPING TO PHYSICALLY I SAY I'M SAYING RIGHT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A TICKET MACHINE. SO YOU'RE TYPING IT IN, BUT IT STILL WILL BE A SLOW PROCESS.

ONE OF THE OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT WE GOT TO WHEN THE SEGWAYS WERE RUNNING, IT WAS JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF MOTORIZED EQUIPMENT ON.

WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT CONGESTION ON THE STREET, AND THERE'S PROBABLY MORE CONGESTION ON THAT SIDEWALK, ESPECIALLY ON A BUSY WEEKEND. SO, YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE GOT REALLY USED TO USING PAY BY PHONE SYSTEMS AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO OUT FOR A NEW SYSTEM.

SO I THINK THE NEW SYSTEM IS EVEN GOING TO BE EASIER.

ONCE WE GET IT AND HAVE A LOT MORE ABILITY WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO.

AND THAT'S WHERE TO ME, WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO PROMOTE, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ACCESS THIS SYSTEM, JUST KNOW IF YOU OVER PARK OR DON'T RENEW, YOU MAY, YOU WILL RECEIVE A CITATION IN THE MAIL.

TO ME, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST POINT OF PLACE.

BUT I, I'M REALLY KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THE NEXT SYSTEM THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN.

PAY BY PHONE WAS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FIRST PIONEERS OF THAT GROUP.

BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER SYSTEMS OUT THERE NOW, AND EVEN PAY BY PHONE HAS IMPROVED A LOT SO THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TAPPING ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES. IT SOUNDS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO STICK WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW WITH A COUPLE OF REFINEMENTS, MAYBE A NEW SYSTEM WHEN WE GO OUT TO BID IN MORE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, AND MAYBE THE SYSTEM CAN HAVE A NOTIFICATION ON IT.

WHEN YOU LOG ON TO THE APP, THAT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT IF YOU DON'T.

YEAH. AND MAYBE POSSIBLY IF YOU OVER PARK, YOU KNOW, OVER PARK, YOU MAY MAY RECEIVE A CITATION IN THE MAIL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OF COURSE, THAT'S ASSUMING THEY GOT ON THE APP TO PAY TO PARK TO BEGIN WITH. AND IF THEY DIDN'T, WE'LL WE'LL TRY TO PROMOTE IT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW AT THAT POINT THAT SIGNS OR ANYTHING WOULD MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE ANYWAY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. HEATHER. THE NUMBER 1.3 MILLION GOT BROUGHT UP.

THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF OUTSTANDING FEES AND FINES.

SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT NUMBER. THAT'S MORE THE MUNICIPAL COURT SIDE IN TERMS OF ONCE WE WRITE THE CITATION.

WHAT'S BEEN PAID AND THE TOTAL AMOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID.

AND WHAT'S OUTSTANDING IS ON THE MUNICIPAL COURT SIDE OF THINGS.

YEAH. DO YOU KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF PAID VERSUS NON PAID NOW VERSUS THE OLD TICKET ON THE WINDSHIELD? I DO NOT KNOW THE COMPARISON OF THE TWO. INTERESTING TO FIND OUT IF IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT THE SAME PERCENTAGE.

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I THINK IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME PERCENTAGE. WE JUST WEREN'T DOING AS MUCH ENFORCEMENT.

YEAH. BUT I THINK THE PAID VERSUS NOT PAID IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME.

SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT GOING TO PAY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY WHETHER YOU'RE MAILING IT OR GETTING IT ON THEIR WINDSHIELD. RIGHT. AND JUST BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS GETTING BETTER AND WE'RE HANDING OUT MORE TICKETS. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY IN THE SAME PLACE THAT WE WERE. YEAH. AND THE BIGGER THING IS, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN, EVERYBODY KNOWS BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE PARKING DOWNTOWN.

WELL, YOU GET SOME VISITORS, BUT IT'S MORE LOCALS ON THE SEAWALL.

EVERY WEEK IT'S A DIFFERENT CROP OF PEOPLE. SO AND I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR, TOO, THAT THE TICKET BY MAIL PROGRAM IS ONLY ON THE SEAWALL.

YEAH. SO IT'S YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M BEING TOLD.

WE HAVE ABOUT A 92% COMPLIANCE AND COLLECTIONS ARE THE SAME ON BOTH SYSTEMS. SO. SO WE'RE IF COLLECTIONS WERE, WERE, WERE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE ON THE OLD SYSTEM.

WE'RE WRITING MORE TICKETS. WE'RE GETTING MORE REVENUE WITH THE. AND SO YEAH, YOU BROUGHT UP MY NEXT QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED THIS.

AND AT THE TIME WE WANTED TO DO IT ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND WE WERE WE WERE VERY HESITANT ABOUT THAT.

WE JUST TRIED IT OUT ON THE ON THE SEA WALL. BUT IS THERE A TALK ABOUT MOVING THIS DOWNTOWN AS WELL? SO WE WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH LOCATION ISSUES AND THE SYSTEM BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE ACCURATE GEOLOCATION TO WHERE THE VEHICLE IS LOCATED.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD WITH EXPANDING IT.

THERE'S SOME REFINEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF A VEHICLE IS PARKED AT A CERTAIN BLOCK, THAT THAT'S WHERE THE CITATION IDENTIFIES THEM BEING PART.

SO WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT A CITATION FOR SOMEBODY IN THE, YOU KNOW, 2000 BLOCK OF STRAND WHEN THEY WERE IN THE 1900 BLOCK OF STRAND.

RIGHT. THAT LOCATION HAS TO YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO WHAT MINE IS SAYING, THESE ARE GETTING MORE SOPHISTICATED, THESE PAY BY PHONE APPS ARE GETTING MORE SOPHISTICATED, MAYBE. AND THEN WHEN WE GO OUT FOR ANOTHER ONE, WOULD THAT BE ONE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS WE WOULD WANT TO SEE? SO SO THE SO THERE'S MULTIPLE PIECES. THERE'S MULTIPLE PIECES TO THIS WHOLE SYSTEM.

AND SO YOU HAVE PAY BY PHONE WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR PARKING.

BUT WE HAVE GTECHNA THAT'S INVOLVED AS WELL. AND IT'S REALLY IN THE LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY GTECHNA THAT'S IDENTIFYING THE THE LOCATIONS AND AND HELPING WITH THAT.

SO PAY BY PHONE WOULD IDENTIFY A PARKING CODE.

SO THERE'S A CERTAIN ZONE NUMBER THAT'S ATTACHED TO PAY BY PHONE, NOT THE SPECIFIC LOCATION.

AND SO GTECHNA WOULD IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC LOCATION.

OF. SO THERE'S, IT'S NOT I WOULD PUT THIS MORE ON, NOT ON PAY BY PHONE TO IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC LOCATION, BUT RATHER THE ZONE. MAKING SURE IT'S IN THE ZONE.

AND YEAH, I THINK THIS WILL, THIS TECHNOLOGY AS IT IMPROVES IT'S GOING TO KIND OF COMPLICATE THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO I BELIEVE THAT AS THE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES THAT WE WILL BETTER BE ABLE TO, IN THAT SPACE BETTER BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE ACTUAL LOCATION WHERE THE VEHICLE IS PARKED TO THE PROPER ACCURACY.

YEAH. AND IF WE EVER, OR WHEN WE GET THERE, I GUESS WE CAN DO AWAY WITH THOSE LITTLE KIOSKS ON DOWNTOWN.

I THINK IT'S I THINK I THINK AS THE PAY SYSTEM IMPROVES AND PEOPLE GET MORE ACCUSTOMED TO IT, I MEAN, I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT USING, I THINK THE OTHER VENDOR THAT I USE THE MOST, I HAVE PARK MOBILE APP BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO COLLEGE STATION, EVERYTHING IS ON PARK MOBILE. SO I THINK AS PEOPLE BECOME MORE ACCUSTOMED TO THESE KIOSKS WILL EVENTUALLY GO AWAY, ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE WITH US FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER, MAINLY BECAUSE WE JUST REFRESHED THEM. WE JUST PURCHASED THOSE. AND SO I HAD COMMITTED TO COMING BACK AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE CYCLE AND JUST DISCUSSING WHETHER AND LETTING COUNCIL MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER WE WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THE PAY STATIONS OR JUST GO STRAIGHT TO THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND THERE'S ALTERNATIVES TO PARK.

AND JUST TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW AND MYSELF, TO REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THIS, ON THE SEAWALL, THERE IS A PARKING PASS AVAILABLE AT THE, IS IT STILL A TIME PERIOD THAT YOU CAN GET THAT PASS WITHIN? NO, YOU CAN ANYTIME YOU GO UP THERE, YOU CAN GO ON THE APP AND BUY A SEASON PASS.

SEASON PASS IS $45. SO THAT WAS THE PARKING ON THE SEAWALL, AS YOU KNOW, IS IT WAS A VOTER YOU KNOW, VOTERS VOTED THAT IN AND THE AMOUNTS AND ALSO THE ANNUAL PARKING PASS.

AND IT'S GOOD FOR ONE YEAR. SO, SO THE DAY YOU BUY IT, IT'S GOOD FOR A YEAR, NOT THE COUNT, NOT BASED ON THE CALENDAR YEAR. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME IN WITH PAY BY PHONE THAT ALLOWED US TO DO THAT.

YEAH. PERFECT. PERFECT. OKAY. SO I THINK WHERE DO WE STAND ON THIS?

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WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO PUSH OUT, I'VE GOT MY NOTES.

WE'RE GOING TO PUSH OUT A MARKETING THING. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH MARISSA TO TRY TO PUSH THAT OUT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH VISIT GALVESTON TO TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION. AND AS WE IMPLEMENT THE NEW PAY SYSTEM, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MESSAGE IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN THROUGH THE NEW PAY SYSTEM.

AND NO NEW SIGNAGE ON THE SEAWALL. WE'RE NOT.

I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT. THE SIGNAGE THAT WE HAVE THERE, OR.

I STILL WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE OPTION OF GETTING A VISIT OR PARK BOARD TO HAVE AN AMBASSADOR OR SOMEBODY DOWN THERE TRYING TO GET COMPLIANCE WITH THE ISSUE.

MARTY AND I SPOKE ABOUT THAT. AND SEE IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO IT AND SEE WHAT THE COST WAS, IF WE COULD REVAMP THAT.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAVE THE SCOOTERS STILL. I MEAN, I KNOW THEY GAVE UP THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT WAS PART OF THE OTHER REASON THEY WERE EXPENSIVE.

AND WHEN THEY AS THEY DIED, THE PROGRAM DIED.

BUT LET ME TALK BECAUSE I GOT SOME OTHER IDEAS.

LET ME TALK TO MARTY AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH. I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS, HEATHER. ALWAYS A GREAT JOB.

ALL RIGHT. JANELLE, CAN WE HEAR 4.E, PLEASE? ITEM 4.E DISCUSSION REGARDING CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES INCLUDING EX OFFICIO APPOINTMENTS,

[4.E Discussion regarding City boards, commissions, and committees, including ex officio appointments, procedures for board member appointments and reappointments, and scheduling interviews for the Park Board, Wharves Board, and Planning Commission (J. Williams - 15 min)]

PROCEDURES FOR BOARD MEMBER APPOINTMENTS AND RE APPOINTMENTS AND SCHEDULING INTERVIEWS FOR THE PARK BOARD, BOARD AND PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO WE WANTED TO BRING THIS BEFORE Y'ALL TODAY.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON OUR AGENDA AT THE NEXT ON THE JUNE 25TH MEETING.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO APPOINT EX OFFICIO TO THE BOARD'S IDC APPOINTMENTS ARE COMING UP AT THAT MEETING AS WELL.

AND THEN WE WILL BE LOOKING AT APPOINTING NEW MEMBERS TO THE PARK BOARD.

WE'RE GOING TO BE APPOINTING THE EX OFFICIO OR THE BOARD MEMBER TODAY IN OUR MEETING TODAY.

BUT THE INTERVIEWS ARE WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL AND HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH ACTUALLY INTERVIEWS FOR PARK BOARD AND PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO AWAY WITH THE IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS.

IF ANYTHING, WE CAN GET QUESTIONS TOGETHER, SUBMIT QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANTS.

THEY CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND SUBMIT THOSE BACK TO US.

THAT'S HOW I'D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THIS, BUT I WANT TO GET YOUR ALL'S INPUT ON THAT. SO THAT CAN COME BACK TO US AT THE JUNE, AT THE JUNE MEETING SO WE CAN MAKE REVISIONS TO THAT RESOLUTION.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE INTERVIEWS WERE REALLY A MEANS TO GET TO HOW WE ACTUALLY RANKED THE APPLICANTS.

SO WE JUST HAD A SHEET RANKING THEM IN ONE CASE.