Mar 03, 2026 Planning Commission

[1. Call Meeting to Order]

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ALL RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON.

WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. WE HAVE A QUORUM AND ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE,

[4. Approval of Minutes]

THIS IS A TIME IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM. IF YOUR ITEM THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS ON THE AGENDA, YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

BUT IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM,

[6.A.1 25BF-086 (4151 Pointe West Drive) Notice of mitigation for disturbance of dunes and dune vegetation. Property is legally described as Pointe West Section 1 (2005), Abstract 121, Beach Area and Pointe West Section 2-A (2007), Abstract 121, Common Area J, in the City and County of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Matt Chastain Property Owner: Property Owners Association of Pointe West Inc]

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THIS IS A DOOM MITIGATION PUBLIC HEARING ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXTENSION OF FOUR EXISTING DOOM WALKOVERS. THE ADDRESS IS 4151 POINT, WEST DRIVE. THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS POINT WEST SECTION 1, 2005, ABSTRACT 121, BEACH AREA, AND POINT WEST SECTION 2-A, 2007, ABSTRACT 121, COMMON AREA. J, IN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS. THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE POINT WEST SUBDIVISION. SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND B&G DUNE SYSTEMS ARE LOCATED TO THE SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.

ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY, THIS AREA IS STABLE TO ERODING AT A RATE OF TWO FEET PER YEAR. STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR VIEWING. FIRST, WE HAVE THE FIRM AND BEG MAP SHOWING THE DISTANCE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AREA AND ITS RELATIVE POSITION TO THE DUNE COMPLEXES AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

NEXT. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS SURVEYS FOR DUNE WALKOVER 2 AND DUNE WALKOVER 4. THIS SLIDE CONTAINS THE SURVEYS FOR DUNE WALKOVER 6 AND DUNE WALKOVER 7. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROJECT OVERVIEW OF THE DUNE EXTENSIONS AND PROPOSED MITIGATION AREAS.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING EIGHT SLIDES ARE MORE DETAILED RENDERINGS OF EACH DUNE WALKOVER. WALKOVER 4. WALKOVER 06, WALKOVER 7, AND THIS FINAL SLIDE CONTAINS FOUR PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPOSED NEW MITIGATION LOCATIONS. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF REPORT, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, KYLE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? A QUICK QUESTION.

KYLE, I KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACTION ON THIS ITEM, BUT WHAT IS HAVING THESE BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT MAKES THESE DUNE WALKOVERS OUT OF COMPLIANCE? THEY'RE NOT OUT OF COMPLIANCE. THE DUNES MIGRATED AND SO POINT WEST CAME TO US TO EXTEND THEM OUT TO THE VEGETATION LINE. RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ENDING IN THE DUNE AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO WALK THROUGH THE DUNES. SO THEY'RE COMING OUT, SO WHEN THEY CONSTRUCT THE, EXTEND THOSE DUNES OUT, THEY'RE IMPACTING DUNES AND DUNE VEGETATION. SO THEY'RE JUST HAVING TO MITIGATE. PART OF THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE SAYS ANYTIME YOU DO DUNE MITIGATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE USE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AS THE FORM TO CONDUCT THAT REQUIREMENT.

OKAY, IT JUST SAYS TO BRING THEM BACK INTO COMPLIANCE. THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION CAME FROM. OKAY, THAT MAY HAVE JUST MEANT THAT JUST BECAUSE THE DUTY HAS MIGRATED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TAXES THAT WE CAN REQUIRE THAT, BUT THEY APPROACHED US. OKAY, THANKS. ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. KYLE, DO WE HAVE A GLO LETTER ON THIS ONE? IT CAME IN AFTER WE DID THIS. IT CAME IN LAST WEEK. THEY HAD NO COMMENTS. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYBODY HERE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IF SO, COME FORWARD. ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS,

[7.A.2. 26P-011 (Adjacent to 10302 Seawall Boulevard) Request for an abandonment of approximately 11,265 square feet of city right of way. Adjacent property is legally described as Hall and Jones Survey, Part of Lots 344, 345, 360, 361, and 362 (344-1), Trimble & Lindsey, Section 1, in the City and County of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Mohamed Eldawy Adjacent Property Owner: Mohamed Eldawy, Royal Crown Enterprise LLC]

THIS IS AN ABANDONMENT REQUEST ASSOCIATED WITH THE SACS DEVELOPMENT PUD, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL NOT TOO LONG AGO.

216 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT TO RETURN, BOTH OF THOSE OPPOSED. THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS BY CITY DEPARTMENTS OR OUTSIDE UTILITIES. SO, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE ABANDONMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 11,265 SQUARE FOOT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. ADJACENT TO 103-02 SEAWALL. THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR HOTEL AND CONDOMINIUM, AS I PREVIOUSLY NOTED. PLEASE ALSO NOTE THE ZONING AND LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL

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IN ADDITION, THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY IS NOT PAVED OR DEVELOPED IN ANY WAY, AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO COVE VIEW. NO OBJECTIONS, ONCE AGAIN, WERE RECEIVED FROM PUBLIC OR PRIVATE UTILITIES, AND THERE ARE NO UTILITIES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, ACCORDING TO REVIEW COMMENTS.

CENTERPOINT ENERGY TYPICALLY REQUESTS A STREET ALLEY CLOSURE APPLICATION BE SUBMITTED FOR ABANDONMENT REQUESTS, SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THEY HAVE A LOOK AND CONTACT CENTERPOINT TO CONFIRM IF THAT WILL BE NECESSARY. THE AREA IN QUESTION MEETS MINIMUM DIMENSIONS AND AREA FOR NEW PARCELS AND COMMERCIAL ZONING. HOWEVER, IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT REPLATTING WILL BE REQUIRED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PROPOSED.

PLEASE NOTE THE CRITERIA FOR STREET CLOSURES AND ABANDONMENTS IN THE STAFF REPORT. SO, STAFF FINDS REQUEST CONFORMS TO THE ABOVE STATED CRITERIA. THERE ARE NO UTILITIES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND... EXTREME GRADE CHANGES ADJACENT TO SEAWALL MAKE IT UNLIKELY TO BE USED OR NEEDED AS A RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE FUTURE. IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT. THE PUD, OF COURSE, HAS PROPOSED TO INCORPORATE THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

OF COURSE, COUNCIL HAS A FINAL DECISION REGARDING REQUESTS FOR ABANDONMENT, AND THEY WILL CONSIDER THIS REQUEST ON THE MARCH 26TH REGULAR MEETING.

SO, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS. ONE.

AND STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH SIX. WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS, SO HERE'S THE SUBJECT.

UH, RIGHT OF WAY, YOU SEE, IT GOES FROM, UH, SEAWALL AND KIND OF DEAD ENDS IN THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH. UH, PRETTY MUCH VACANT, UH, THERE AND ON BOTH SIDES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, HERE WE HAVE ONCE AGAIN THE UH, AREA IN QUESTION OVERLAID ON THE SURVEY THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND HERE WE HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LOOKING APPROXIMATELY THE CENTER OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LOOKING NORTH.

AND THE PROPERTY IS TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH, LOOKING TOWARD SEAWALL, AND TO THE WEST. AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, DANIEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SEE THE APPLICANTS HERE.

WHY DON'T YOU GUYS STATE YOUR NAME, SIGN IN FOR US, TELL US WHAT YOU'VE GOT GOING ON.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE TIME TODAY. MOHAMED ELDWE IS HERE AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, OWNER-DEVELOPER. AND STEPHEN BEAGLE, ARCHITECT, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW ME, BUT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PUD THAT WAS APPROVED ON OCTOBER 23, 2025, AND THIS IS PROCEDURAL, MOSTLY. WE HAVE TO ABANDON THIS RIGHT AWAY IN ORDER TO PROCEED WITH THE PUD. IT'S A DEAD END.

IT GOES NOWHERE. SO, AGAIN, IT'S PROCEDURAL. SO WE'LL, YOU KNOW, ALLOW YOU, I MEAN, YOU'RE. YOU'RE THE VOICE HERE.

WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE COUNCIL NEXT MONTH IF WE GET APPROVAL HERE AND CLOSE THE CHAPTER.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES. PLEASE. OKAY. SO I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA RIGHT THERE.

YES. THAT'S A DESCENDING TURN COMING OFF THE SEAWALL BELOW.

YES. AND SO IN THE FUTURE, YOU PLAN TO PUT A ROAD THERE? THERE IS AN ON-GRADE ROAD PROPOSED, AND I'LL PULL UP THE MASTER PLAN. I HAVE IT HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STAFF PRESENTED IS WHAT'S NEEDED. WE'RE COMING INTO THE WEST. THERE ARE THREE ENTRANCES TO THE PROPERTY, ONE TO THE EXTREME EAST THAT COMES IN AT SEAWALL BOULEVARD, WHICH IS 17 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL, AND THE OTHER ONE TO THE EXTREME WEST, WHICH COMES IN AT 7 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL THIS INTERVENING AREA WILL BE AT GRADE. IT'S NOT COMING IN OFF... SEAWALL BOULEVARD.

YOU COME INTO THE EAST, OR YOU COME INTO THE WEST, AND YOU CIRCLE THROUGH THE PROPERTY, THROUGH THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO THIS. THIS IS, WE'RE WELL AWARE AND IN OUR PUD, WE SAID, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT WITH THE LDRS, WE HAVE TO PROTECT VERTICALLY, THAT EASEMENT FOR 50 FEET ALL THE WAY VERTICALLY. SO THIS IS IN NO WAY CONNECTED TO SEAWALL BOULEVARD. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SO THE OTHER TWO PARCELS OF LAND ON EITHER SIDE, THEY ALREADY OWN THOSE TWO, CORRECT? SO THIS WOULD BE MERGING THAT WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE REASON THEY'RE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY OWN ON BOTH SIDES. AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT IS CORRECT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO COMMISSION

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[7.B.3. 26P-008 (2116 Ursuline / Avenue N) Request for designation as a Galveston Landmark. Property is legally described as Abstract 628 M.B. Menard Survey Lot 11 Southeast Block 18 Galveston Outlots, in the City and County of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Gregory Sendejas Property Owner: Margie Sendejas]

FOR A DESIGNATION AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK. 34 PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT, AND ONE WAS INTERNED, AND ONE WAS IN FAVOR. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DESIGNATION OF THE ABOVE-REFERENCED ADDRESS AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK, THE CHARLES HOWARD HUMAN HOUSE.

THE CHARLES HOWARD HUMAN HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1923 AFTER THE 1900S RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THE HOUSE BELONGED TO CHARLES HOWARD HEUMANN, WHO WAS THE FIRST AND FOR MANY YEARS ONLY FULL-TIME PARCEL CARRIER. THIS HOUSE FEATURES GREEK REVIVAL CHARACTERISTICS AND SITS ON BRICK COLUMNS. THE THREE-STORY, EIGHT-BED, ONE-BATH HOUSE STAYED IN HEUSMAN'S NAME UNTIL HE DIED, THEN PASSED DOWN TO HIS WIFE, EDITH. WHEN SHE DIED IN 1993, THE HOUSE WENT TO MARJORIE ST. JOS.

FOR MANY GENERATIONS, THE HOUSE KEPT THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF THE ST. JOS HOUSEHOLD. UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE LATE 90S, THE HOUSE SUSTAINED MAJOR DAMAGE AND A FIRE, BUT WAS RESTORED. GREEK REVIVAL HOMES ARE COMMON FROM 1825 TO 1860 AND KNOWN TO HAVE PROMINENT FEATURES.

THE HUMAN HOME IS CHARACTERIZED BY A HIP SHINGLE ROOF, SUPPORTED BY PROTRUDING BRICK COLUMNS AND DECORATIVE CORBELS UNDER THE ROOF OVERHANG.

IN THE BACKYARD, THE HOUSE HAS AN ORIGINAL WATER CISTERN ON A BRICK FOUNDATION. THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES FOR GALVESTON LANDMARKS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HEAR THIS REQUEST AT THE MARCH 3, 2026 MEETING. CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR A LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

AND THE REQUEST HAS BEEN HEARD APPROVED BY THE REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 2026. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS STANDARD ONE. AND WE HAVE EXHIBITS AS FOLLOWS HERE WE HAVE THE PROPERTY AS IT STANDS, AND HERE WE HAVE. THE SUBMISSION PACKET BY THE APPLICANT, THE EXHIBIT A, EXHIBIT B, EXHIBIT C, EXHIBIT D, EXHIBIT E, AND SOME ARTICLES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. AND THESE ARE THE HOUSES TO THE SOUTH, THE NORTH, EAST, AND WEST. AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, REBECCA. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? HEY, YOU WANT TO COME TELL US WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON? GET YOU TO SIGN IN, TELL US WHO YOU ARE. I'M GREGORY SANDEJAS, THE HOUSE IS OWNED BY MARGIE SANDEJAS, I'M HER GRANDSON. I MEAN, AS SHE SAID, IT WAS BUILT FOR CHARLES HEUMANN. HE WAS THE FIRST PARCEL CARRIER. HE WAS THE ONLY GUY IN GALVESTON DELIVERING PACKAGES AT THE TIME. AND BACK THEN THEY'D HAVE LIKE, WHISTLES AND STUFF. SO AND WHEN YOU GET A PACKAGE, HE DELIVERED WITH THE WHISTLE AND YOU'D HEAR THE WHISTLE, YOU COME GET YOUR PACKAGE. AND YEARS GO BY, HE RETIRES, AND HE'S THE LAST GUY STILL BLOWN WITH HIS WHISTLE. AND AS THE ARTICLE SAYS, THERE, AND UH, YEAH, IT WAS RESTORED AFTER A FIRE. AND I THINK IT HOLDS THE QUALIFICATIONS IT TAKES FOR A LANDMARK. WELL, IT LOOKS GREAT. THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORTS WITH THAT.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO COMMISSION FOR ACTION.

I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE 26P-008, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. 26P-008.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

GOOD LUCK, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT,

[7.C.4. 26P-009 (17130, 171196, 17200 San Luis Pass Road / F.M. 3005 and Adjacent Vacant Parcels) Request for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Overlay District for a mixed-use development. Properties are legally described Abstract 121 Hall & Jones Survey; Tract 70, 67.093 Acres; Tract 71, 72.960 Acres; Tract 72, 10.700 Acres; Tract 72-2-1, 1.660 Acres; Tract 72-4, 4.000 Acres; Tract 72-5, 15.580 Acres; Tract 73, 24.641 Acres; Part of Tract 73, 58.359 Acres; Tract 74, 4.5643 Acres; Tract 76 40.000 Acres; Tract 77, 4.725 Acres; and Gustafson Sub (2008) Abst 121, Lot 2, Acres 8.521; in the City and County of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: G. Kevin Dingman Property Owners: B-Centre Entrepreneurs, LLC; Bridgeview Multifamily, LLC; BV Galveston Land, LLC; Ronald W. and Dora L. Gustafson, Co-Trustees; and Mayco Reality, LLC]

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TERESA EVANS WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM. CASE 26P-009 INVOLVES A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 17130. 171, 196, AND 17200 SAN LUIS PASS ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS FM 3005, AND THE ADJACENT VACANT PARCELS. THE APPLICANT IS KEVIN DINGMAN. THE SUBJECT SITE CONSISTS OF 12 LOTS. THEY ARE LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF BOB SMITH ROAD AND SAN LUIS PASS ROAD. THE SUBJECT SITE HAS THE TOTAL AREA CONSISTS OF 351 ACRES. THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU IS FOR DEVELOPMENT ON 170 ACRES OF THE 351 ACRES. SOME OF THE PROPERTY REMAINS UNIMPROVED.

THERE IS AN IMPROVED PARCEL.

THAT'S THE LOCATION OF THE JAMAICA RV PARK, JAMAICA BEACH RV PARK. AND THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES THAT IF THE PUD IS APPROVED, THAT RV PARK WOULD BE REMOVED.

THE REQUEST IS FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

AT THIS LOCATION, 25 PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

ONE LETTER WAS RECEIVED OR ONE COMMENT WAS RECEIVED WITHIN THIS 200 NOTIFICATION, WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA, AND IT WAS OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT. WE DID RECEIVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT REPORT THAT YOU RECEIVED EARLIER TODAY. WE CIRCULATED THE PROPOSAL TO THE DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS, NOTIFYING THEM OF THIS PROJECT. MOST OF THEM REPORTED NO OBJECTIONS.

WE DID RECEIVE AN OBJECTION FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL WITH A COMMENT THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AS EXHIBIT B.

I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER AFTER I REVIEW A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSAL. WE ALSO CIRCULATED THE PROPOSAL TO THE PUBLIC UTILITIES, AND THERE WAS NO OBJECTION. SO I'LL READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY DISTRICT TO ESTABLISH A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT IN A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY R1 ZONING DISTRICT, A RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE R2 ZONING DISTRICT, AND A RESORT RECREATION ZONING DISTRICT. THE PURPOSE OF THE PUD IS TO, ONE, ELIMINATE THE MINIMUM LOT AREA, LOT WIDTH, LOT DEPTH, THE FRONT SETBACK, THE SIDE SETBACK, AND THE REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS IN THE R1, R2, AND RES REC ZONING DISTRICTS IN ARTICLE 3 OF THE LDRS. NUMBER TWO, THE REQUEST IS TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT FROM 50 FEET TO 75 FEET IN THE R1 AND R2 ZONING DISTRICTS, WITH AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE TO 159 FEET. FOR SIGNATURE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. NUMBER THREE, THE REQUEST IS TO RESTRICT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT FROM 120 FEET TO 75 FEET IN THE RES REC ZONING DISTRICT. ARTICLE 3, WITH AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE TO 159 FEET FOR SIGNATURE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. FOUR, ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL LAND USES IN R1, R2, AND RES REC ZONING DISTRICTS, AS OUTLINED IN TABLE 2.201. THESE WOULD...

ARE DESCRIBED IN PUD PLAN EXHIBIT E. 5. ELIMINATE THE SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS AS OUTLINED IN ARTICLE 5, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SECTION 5.301F, WHICH PROHIBITS OFF-PREMISE SIGNS, BILLBOARDS, AND TO REPLACE THE CITY'S SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS WITH PUD EXHIBIT G. 6. ELIMINATE THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS IN DIVISION 6.600. 7. ELIMINATE THE MAXIMUM LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION 7.102D. 8. ELIMINATE THE PARKING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS IN ARTICLE 3 AND 8 AND REPLACE WITH THE PUD PLAN EXHIBIT F AND TO ALLOW FOR PRIVATE STREETS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THEIR PROPOSAL, BUT I WILL TOUCH ON THE FIRE MARSHAL'S COMMENT THAT IS IN EXHIBIT B. THE FIRE MARSHAL COMMENTED THAT THEY OBJECT TO THE PROPOSAL BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO DETERMINE WHETHER, I MEAN,

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AND LASTLY, THERE'S AN OBJECTION TO USING SIDEWALKS AND NON-VEHICULAR AREA AS PART OF THE REQUIRED FIRE LANES.

THIS WAS DISCUSSED, BUT NO INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED. SO I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER, THE APPLICANT DID MEET WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AFTER THESE COMMENTS WERE PROVIDED, AND THE APPLICANT PROVIDED MORE INFORMATION ON THEIR RESPONSE TO THOSE COMMENTS. SO, THERE ARE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL OF THE PUD PLAN THAT IS OUTLINED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET. IF, SHOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIND THAT THE REQUEST CONFORMS THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL, THE STAFF DID NOTE SOME CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

THERE ARE TWO SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, AND FIVE STANDARD CONDITIONS.

FINAL APPROVAL, IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, FINAL APPROVAL LIES WITH CITY COUNCIL. AND IF THIS WERE TO BE MOVED FORWARD, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AT THE MARCH 26 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

SO WE DO HAVE, IF YOU REFER TO THE POWERPOINT, THIS IS SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANTS. SO THAT SHOWS THE 12 PARCELS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN BLUE OUTLINE.

AND THEN NEXT, YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT FOR THE PROJECT, AND THEN SOME DRAWINGS OF THE PROPOSED MAJOR PLAN, THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE PROJECT. WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE AND THEN WE HAVE SOME PICTURES OF THE NOTIFICATION SIGNS.

THERE THEY ARE. AND THAT SHOWS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

AND SO, AS I NOTED, SOME OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS VACANT, BUT YOU DO HAVE SOME ADJACENT LAND USES. LET ME SEE IF I CAN.

THERE IS A CHART IN YOUR PACKET. SO JUST REAL QUICK, THE SUBJECT SITE, AGAIN, CONSISTS OF SOME VACANT LAND AND AN RV PARK. TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, YOU HAVE VACANT PROPERTY.

WATER. TO THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL USES AND VACANT PARCELS. TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE THE CITY OF JAMAICA BEACH, WITH SOME COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LAND USES. AND TO THE WEST, YOU HAVE ARWEN ZONING WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL USES.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THIS PROPOSAL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, SIR. TERESA, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S COMMENT INDICATES A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING. HOW MANY DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS WERE CONDUCTED WITH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF? WE HAD ONE MEETING. WELL, WE HAD ONE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING AFTER WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSAL, SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, OR MAYBE... THEY'VE CONTINUED TO REACH OUT AND COORDINATE WITH STAFF. THEY PROVIDED A PRELIMINARY SUBMITTAL WITH THEIR APPLICATION PACKAGE.

IT WAS LACKING SOME DETAIL, AND WE WORKED WITH THEM TO GET THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU, TO MEET THE FORMAT THAT IS GENERALLY SUBMITTED FOR THESE PROJECTS. THANK YOU.

AND SO THERE WAS SOME CONTINUED COORDINATION WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AND STAFF. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? TERESA, IS THERE A MAXIMUM LENGTH ON A CUL-DE-SAC IN THE LDRS? YES. AND WHAT IS THAT DISTANCE? WE DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, CATHERINE? YEAH, IT'S 600 FEET. 600? CAN WE GO TO THE SITE PLAN? SO ON THE... I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND SEE THE NORTH ARROW, BUT JUST LOOK AT THE SECTION OF LOTS THAT'S ON THE FURTHEST RIGHT SIDE, THAT LONG CUL-DE-SAC. THERE'S NO DIMENSION ON IT, BUT I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 28

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THERE'S 88 LOTS IN THAT SECTION, WHICH APPEARS TO BE SURROUNDED BY WATER.

THERE ARE SOME PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES THAT CONNECT IT TO THE LAGOON AREA, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE POINT OF ACCESS. I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE FIRE MARSHAL THINKS ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A NUMBER. THAT LIMITS THE NUMBER OF LOTS IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, BUT IS THE FIRE MARSHAL HERE TO COMMENT? NO. FIREMAN WITH A GUN. CHRIS HARRISON, FIRE MARSHAL. WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AGAIN? I'M SORRY. IT APPLIES TO THE LONG CUL-DE-SAC ALSO, WHICH IS OVER 1,000 FEET. BUT THE RECENT QUESTION WAS THE ISLAND THAT HAS A SINGLE POINT OF ACCESS AND 88 LOTS. DOES THAT PRESENT ANY CONCERNS FOR YOU? THE FIRE CODE FOR MULTIPLE POINTS OF ACCESS ONLY ADDRESSES THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE. WHEN IT COMES TO SINGLE ROADWAYS, WE JUST LOOK FOR A TURNAROUND AT THE END OF IT. ANYTHING OVER 150 FEET HAS TO HAVE A TURNAROUND. BUT IN THIS CASE, ON THE SUBMITTED PLAN, THERE WERE MULTIPLE POINTS OF ACCESS THAT MET THE REMOTENESS STANDARD, AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OBJECTION ON THE MULTIPLE WAYS INTO THE SUBDIVISION. OKAY.

WHAT ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER OBJECTIONS THAT YOU NOTED? WHAT WAS THE RESOLUTION ON THOSE? THE OBJECTIONS THAT WERE NOTED SPECIFICALLY ON THE ROAD WIDTH AND THE PROJECTIONS WERE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE MASTER PLAN. PLAN VIEW SUBMITTED AND THE ACTUAL PUD DOCUMENT. THERE WAS SOME CLEANUP THAT WAS NEEDED. WE MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY AND WERE ADVISED THAT THEY WOULD CLEAN THOSE UP. BUT WHENEVER WE DO A STAFF REPORT FOR YOU GUYS, WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY SUBMIT FOR THAT, TO PUT THAT INFORMATION TO STAFF SO THAT ALL STAFF IS LOOKING AT THE SAME THING. AND THE OTHER TWO ITEMS THAT WERE ON THERE, THE USE OF BOLLARDS AND THE HYDRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE STUFF THAT WERE JUST. TALKED ABOUT AS A CONCEPT IN THE MEETING, AND SO I THOUGHT WORTH MENTIONING.

BUT, AS THEY NOTED, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. IF THEY DECIDE TO PURSUE THOSE AVENUES, THEN THEY WILL COORDINATE WITH US ON MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE FIRE CODE COMPLIANT.

ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, TERESA, I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY A PUBLIC WORKS QUESTION, BUT CAN YOU TELL US THE STATUS OF THE SANITARY SEWER CAPACITY IN THAT AREA? THEY WOULD NEED TO. THEY DID HAVE SOME MEETINGS WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, STARTING, I GUESS, LAST YEAR ON WHAT SEWER CAPACITY IS.

THERE IS NOT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW TO SERVE THIS SITE. THEY WOULD NEED TO BUILD A TREATMENT FACILITY, AND THAT'S PROPOSED, I BELIEVE, FOR THE. IT'S AT THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'LL NEED TO WORK OUT. THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THEM, THAT THEY'LL NEED TO WORK THAT OUT. SO WOULD THAT BE A CONDITION FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL? THAT'S ACTUALLY ALL GOING TO BE WORKED OUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT, PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT... THE LAND USES, THE REGULATIONS AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, BUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, JUST OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS LIKE FLOODPLAIN, ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION, ALL OF THOSE BUILDING CODES, ALL OF THOSE STILL APPLY. SO THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO DEVELOP UTILITIES AND ADEQUATELY SERVE THAT AREA. SO ALL THOSE CONDITIONS REMAIN. BUT, YES, THERE IS A LOT OF DETAIL LEFT TO BE WORKED OUT.

BUT I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THIS APPROVAL.

BEFORE PROCEEDING. OKAY, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION, AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT. THE R1 AND R2 THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE ON THOSE PROPERTIES, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ACRES ARE DIVIDED BETWEEN THOSE TWO? I DON'T KNOW. I DO NOT. I DO NOT HAVE THAT CALCULATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKET. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS CLEAR. OKAY. WELL, I'LL SAVE

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SURE. GO AHEAD, ANTHONY. I'LL NOT PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

COASTAL RESOURCES, THERE'S NO OBJECTION. WHAT IS COASTAL RESOURCES LOOKING AT OR NOT LOOKING AT WITH THIS PROPOSAL? I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. SO ANYTHING WITHIN 1,000 FEET FROM THE MEAN HIGH TIDE TRIGGERS US. 1,000 FEET DOES GO ACROSS. 3-00.5.

IN THIS AREA, IT GOES UP TO JUST NORTH OF THE POND AREA.

SO THEY WOULD STILL NEED, ANYTHING THAT WAS BUILT WITHIN THAT WOULD STILL NEED TO COME GET AN AUTHORIZATION FROM US. BUT FOR THE PUD, WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. WE ALWAYS JUST SAY, IF THEY DO BUILDING IN THE FUTURE WITHIN THIS AREA, THEN THEY GET SOMETHING FROM US, BUT NO COMMENT. SO THERE'S A SHORT SECTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT GOES INTO THE... THAT FALLS INTO THE ZONE. YEAH, YEAH, MOST OF IT IS, MOST OF IT IS THAT LAGOON AREA.

UH, UM, BUT TO THE TO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE BECAUSE THEY KIND OF GOT THIS TURN.

BUT THAT'S WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, AND THERE'S JUST A FEW LOTS THAT GOES THAT THE THOUSAND FEET GOES INTO. BUT, LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING BUILT IN THAT AREA WOULD NEED TO COME TO US TO GET A BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION CERTIFICATE. OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY, KYLE. UM, I THINK WE WERE TALKING EARLIER. SO THE, UH, THE WETLANDS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, IF THEY WERE DISTURBED, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE MITIGATION, OR WHAT? WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT PROCESSES THEY COULD USE CONCERNING HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO THE WETLANDS AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT? THAT'S FOR THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, AND I DON'T DEAL WITH THE BAY, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THE SAME TYPE OF PROCESSES THAT WE USE FOR MITIGATION, FOR THE DUNES, AVOIDANCE, MINIMIZATION, AND THEN MITIGATION.

THROUGH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THROUGH THEIR PROCESS. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? THIS IS FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL.

ON YOUR EXHIBIT B, IT STATES THAT THE ROADWAY BEING 20 FEET, BUT ON THE DRAWINGS I SAW THAT IT SHOWS IT TO BE 26 FEET. IS THAT JUST A TIMING CONFLICT THAT SOMETHING WAS OR WASN'T UPDATED? OKAY.

BUT IT'S 26 FEET IS THE CORRECT. 26 FEET WOULD BE FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT WITH BUILDINGS OVER 30 FEET IN HEIGHT FROM GRADE. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE, IF NOT ALL, THE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THIS THAT WOULD MEET THAT CRITERIA.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAW.

OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE COMMENT. THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE PUD DOCUMENT, WHICH LABELED IT AT 20 FEET, AND THE PLAN THAT SHOWED 26 FEET. AS I UNDERSTAND, THAT SHOULD BE CLEANED UP.

RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW WE'RE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS.

ALMOST GOT AWAY. SO, BASICALLY, MOST OF YOUR CONCERNS, OR ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS THAT YOU INITIALLY SUBMITTED, HAVE BEEN RESOLVED THROUGH THESE MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE HAD WITH THIS DEVELOPER? WE HAVE VERBAL CONFIRMATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS YET THAT WOULD SHOW. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT AT THIS STAGE, WE LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING OF THEM, AND OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY START TO BUILD ROADS THE WRONG WAY, THAT COULD GO SOUTH PRETTY QUICK. BUT YES, WE HAVE VERBAL CONFIRMATION, AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK TO THAT.

ANYBODY ELSE? MAYBE THIS ONE'S MORE FOR DONNA. SO WITH THIS PACKET, THEY'VE SUBMITTED THIS INFORMATION TO US. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE REVIEWED. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'VE ALSO... TALK TO STAFF AND THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER INFORMATION SHARED, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? LIKE, IS IT THIS PACKET OR IS IT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN? THE PACKAGE THAT'S BEING PRESENTED INCORPORATES COMMENTS, THE REVIEW FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

TYPICALLY, YOU REVIEW THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED BY STAFF. YOU REVIEW WHAT THE APPLICANT WILL BRING TO THE TABLE. AND AMONGST THE VOLUNTEERISM THAT'S THIS BOARD, LISTEN, OF COURSE, TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING CLEARLY GOING TO BE PROVIDED TODAY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS AND WHAT TYPE OF MOTION, ET CETERA.

BUT THE REQUEST TODAY IS FOR THE PUD. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THIS PACKET. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS. SO ON SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

WHAT IS THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT FOR THIS SUBDIVISION? WE HAVE A, A MATRIX WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, THAT IS A DEVIATION TABLE.

HE'S ASKING, SO I GUESS, ACTUALLY, TO BE FAIR, I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION AND YOU JUST ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

AND I'M REALLY ASKING IT BECAUSE I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND WHAT THE CITY'S LOOKING AT

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OKAY. SO WE GOT A NOD ON THAT. THEN, IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A 20% OPEN SPACE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE 20% OF OPEN SPACE.

WHEN WE'RE DOING THE DENSITY CALCULATIONS, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE 350 ACRES.

SO WE'RE DOING 350 TIMES SIX.

SO THEIR MAXIMUM DENSITY THAT'S PERMITTED IS 2100, OR WHATEVER THE MATH IS. YEAH, 2100. SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, GIVEN THE... THE WAY THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED, THESE GUYS COULD DO 2,100 UNITS IN COMBINATION ON THE PROPERTY THEY HAVE. SO I KNOW THERE'S, AND I'M STATING THIS BEFORE WE EVEN GET STARTED ON THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF WRITTEN RESPONSE. I'VE SEEN THE RESPONSES IN THE PAPER. I'VE HEARD ABOUT THEM. I'VE GOTTEN PHONE CALLS.

AND, LOOK, THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, AND THEY ALL MATTER.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO START FROM SOMEWHERE. SO WE'RE STARTING FROM, IF THESE GUYS SHOWED UP, PER THE RULES, THEY GOT 2,100 DENSITY UNITS THAT THEY CAN PUT ON THEIR PROPERTY. WETLANDS.

SO I WANT TO ASK SOME WETLAND QUESTIONS HERE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THAT AS WELL. IS THE CITIES, DONNA, THIS IS REALLY A YOU QUESTION. SO, THAT WAS A GOOD ONE, TOO. I DON'T KNOW EITHER. AND THAT IS IT. WHEN IT COMES TO THE WETLANDS, OUR AUTHORITY OVER THAT IS ZERO. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? THAT'S RIGHT. OUR AUTHORITY OVER WETLANDS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ESPECIALLY, THEIR AUTHORITY OVER THAT. IS ZERO. DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT OUR AUTHORITY IS ZERO. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT'S WHAT, AS VOLUNTEERS UP HERE, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

SO, AND TO GET INTO TOM'S QUESTION A LITTLE MORE, IS? OUR POSITION IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO ALL THESE FOLKS, WHICH IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND OUR JOB IS TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND AND TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WHETHER IT BE FOR AN APPROVAL OR A DENIAL.

BUT IF IT'S A DENIAL, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC REASON OR A SPECIFIC REASON FOR DENYING THIS. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE COME HERE TO YOU.

BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS AT LEAST MAYBE HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR AUTHORITY IS AND WHAT OUR DUTY IS. ON MOVING FORWARD, THIS.

DESPITE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION YOU HAVE, EITHER FOR OR AGAINST, IT WILL BE GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR FINAL... AND THAT'S CORRECT. SO OUR APPROVAL IS NOT AN APPROVAL. IT'S REALLY A RECOMMENDATION. YOU KNOW, IT GOES WITH AN APPROVAL OR A DENIAL, BUT IT'S REALLY A RECOMMENDATION. CITY COUNCIL, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS.

THEY GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THEY GET PAID. YEAH. BIG BUCKS. I THINK THEIR CHECK IS BIGGER THAN MINE, THOUGH. YOU KNOW, MINE, I GET THE SMALL ONE. ANYWAYS, ALL RIGHT. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL GET THE APPLICANT UP HERE. I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR HIM. TELL US WHAT YOUR, TELL US YOUR NAME, WHAT YOU'RE DOING. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M SURE, MR. BLACKARD WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS YOU AS WELL.

BUT I WANTED TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS. I'M JED ROLLINS, BLACKARD COMPANIES.

JED? JED. J-E-D. MIND IF I CALL YOU JED? PLEASE DO. OKAY.

FIRST, COUPLE ARE JUST WINDOW DRESS. FLIP THROUGH. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY, JED, YOU CAN USE THE CLIP. OH, PERFECT.

EVEN BETTER. YEAH. I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE WE'RE... WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THERE'S A ROUGH OUTLINE OF

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THE FIRST SLIDE IS ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THAT YOU WOULD INCORPORATE INTO A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE FIRST SLIDE IS TO ADDRESS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMMENTS BASED ON OUR MEETING WITH... FIRE DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY. THE FIRST ONE IS TO ADDRESS THE DRIVE AISLE WIDTH FROM 20 TO 26 FEET. THAT WAS INCORPORATED IN A MASTER PLAN. IT'S A VERSIONING ISSUE. THE SECOND IS THE EMERGENCY ACCESS REMOTENESS. WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY, BUT WE'D LIKE TO ADD TO SECTION 213, WHICH IS EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, THAT TWO POINTS OF VEHICULAR ACCESS. WILL THAT COMPLY WITH THE REMOTENESS STANDARDS OF APPENDIX D SHALL BE PROVIDED. ALTERNATIVELY, ALL DWELLING UNITS BE EQUIPPED WITH APPROVED AUTOMATIC SPRINKLERS.

SO, EITHER WAY, COMPLYING WITH APPENDIX D OF THE FIRE CODE. ITEMS THREE AND FOUR ARE TO ADDRESS FIRE LINE SETBACKS AND PROJECTION CLEARANCES. BOTH OF THESE REALLY MEANT TO BE BELTS AND SUSPENDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH.

FIRE CODE. THE NEXT SLIDE ARE TWO THAT I THINK WE'D LIKE TO CLARIFY AND REQUEST CHANGES.

THE LIGHTING STANDARDS, WE'RE HAPPY TO FULLY COMPLY WITH ARTICLE 7 REQUIREMENTS.

SO ANY MOTION FOR APPROVAL, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS INCORPORATED IN THERE. AND AS FAR AS THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY CAP, OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE CORE AND WHAT'S CALLED THE LAGOON AREA, WE'RE HAPPY TO COMPLY WITH THE SIX-UNIT-PER-ACRE CAP THAT IS OUTLINED IN THE LDR. RUN THAT PAST ME AGAIN? ACTUALLY, THE DENSITY CAP THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP, THE SIX UNITS PER ACRE, OUTSIDE OF THE LAGOON AREA, AND THE DENSITY CAP. RIGHT NOW READS MARKET-DRIVEN. OUTSIDE OF THAT LAGOON AREA, WE'RE HAPPY TO. TO KEEP THIS TO SPECIFICALLY STICK TO THE SIX UNIT BREAK, WHERE IS THE LET'S KEEP GOING? BUT I'M KIND OF CURIOUS, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE IS THE LAGOON AREA? I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOT SOME OF YOUR MORE HIGH-RISE TYPE STUFF AND HAS MORE DENSITY IN IT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, IT'S IT'S THE MORE DENSE VILLAGE CORE MIXED USE AREA. SO ON THIS MAP IT WOULD BE THE PURPLE AREA, AND IN THE IN THE ZONING EXHIBIT, IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED OUT AS LAGOON AREA. I BELIEVE IS THE IS THE LANGUAGE. OH, YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET BACK TO. WE'LL GO TO NINE, YEAH. THIS IS ADDRESSING THE DENSITY COMMENT THAT YOU MADE. AS YOU ACTUALLY POINTED OUT, WE'RE AT 4.6 UNITS TO THE ACRE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WELL BELOW THE LDR CAP THAT'S IN PLACE ALREADY. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO STAY WITHIN THAT SIX-UNIT CAP. THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE SITE PLAN THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUY-WRITE. ZONING STANDARDS OF THE R1, R2, AND RES REC DISTRICTS IN THE UPPER RIGHT, AND THIS IS A COMPARISON.

IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OUR PLAN DOES STAY CLEAR OF THE WETLANDS. IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO FILL ANY WETLANDS WITH THIS TYPE PLAN. THIS ALSO ADDRESSES THE LOT SIZE VARIATION THAT WE'RE... THAT WE'D LIKE TO INCORPORATE. MANY OF OUR PLANS, MANY OF OUR PROJECTS INCORPORATE UNIQUE PLANNING CONCEPTS. IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO MIX THOSE LOT AREAS AND

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THE RED OUTLINES THAT KIND OF DIVIDE THE PLAN UP ARE JUST THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS. SO THAT'S JUST THE ASSEMBLY OF THE LAND THAT'S SHOWN THERE.

OKAY. THIS IS JUST SOME OF OUR OTHER WORK, AND MR. BLACKARD'S WORK IN THE BAY PREVIOUSLY. AGAIN, WE'RE...

OUR INTENTION IS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE BAY AND BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE WETLANDS. AND I THINK OUR HISTORY AND MR. BLACKARD'S HISTORY CERTAINLY ILLUSTRATE THAT. THIS ADDRESSES THE HEIGHT VARIANCE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

THESE ARE TWO OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BUILT IN TEXAS. ONE IN CORPUS CHRISTI INCORPORATES A LIGHTHOUSE OF 142 FEET. OFF OF THE CAUSEWAY, THE OTHER IN NORTH DALLAS, A BELL TOWER OF 138 FEET. OUR INTENTION IN THIS PROJECT IS TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS ICONIC AND SOMETHING THAT IS BEAUTIFUL AND CATCHES PEOPLE'S EYES AS THEY PASS THE PROJECT. THAT'S THE INTENTION OF THE SINGLE HEIGHT VARIANCE.

SO WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THIS HEIGHT VARIANCE, I'M ASSUMING IT HAS TO DO MORE WITH THIS. MULTI-STORIED STUFF.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THE HEIGHT VARIANCE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, ESPECIALLY ON THE 159 FEET, I BELIEVE. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 75 FOOT STUFF. THE 75 WOULD COVER THE WHOLE PROJECT. THAT WAS OUR REQUEST.

OKAY, SO EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE LIMITING, I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIMITING, WHEN YOU'RE LIMITING THE DENSITY IN THE LAGOON AREA? THE AREA OF THE LAGOON ACTUALLY WOULD BE ZONED FOR 120 FEET IN HEIGHT TODAY. SO ACTUALLY, THE LAGOON AREA WE ARE REDUCING TO 75 FEET FROM 120.

BUT YOU'RE WANTING 75 ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY? WHY WOULD YOU NEED A 75-FOOT HEIGHT ON A RESIDENTIAL LOT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT A BUYER WOULD BE.

INTERESTED IN BUILDING ON ONE OF THESE LOTS. ANYWAY, OKAY, JUST A QUESTION. PLEASE CONTINUE. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I'LL JUST KEEP GOING. THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE MARKET DEMAND FOR THE PRODUCT. WE VIEW THIS AS CREATING ITS OWN DEMAND, LARGELY. WE DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING. QUITE LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD HERE. WE ALSO PLAN ON BUILDING ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS PROJECT IN ONE PHASE.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE RESIDENTS WOULD NOT BE NOT BE WAITING ON ON AMENITIES THAT ARE COMING IN FUTURE PHASES. WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO POSITION US WELL IN THE MARKET AND WE THINK THAT. WE THINK THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE MORE THAN ENOUGH DEMAND TO SELL THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING ON THE GROUND. AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC. AGAIN, WE PLAN ON BUILDING LESS DENSITY THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED CURRENTLY BY WRIGHT. FM 3005 IS A TECH STOP MANAGED CORRIDOR AND STUDIED BY THE STATE EVERY YEAR BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON, WE UNDERSTAND. AND CERTAINLY, WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO PROVIDE WORKFORCE AND SENIOR HOUSING COMPONENTS INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE THINK WOULD BE VITALLY NECESSARY ON THE WEST END. AS TERESA ADDRESSED, WE'RE HOPING

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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? GIVE ME A LITTLE DEFINITION ON THAT. WE HAVE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WE DEVELOP AND HAVE DEVELOPED OVER DECADES THAT CONTROL ALL OF THE BUILDINGS INSIDE OF THE PROJECT. THEY ALSO DEFINE WHAT PROPERTY OWNERS CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND HAVE STRONG PENALTIES AND ULTIMATELY, UP TO SHORT-TERM RENTAL RIGHT REVOKING.

BUT THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY YOUR HOA, PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION. OKAY. I'M CURIOUS, LOOKING AT THIS DIAGRAM HERE, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS PROJECT IS IN R1, R2, AND RES REC. I CAN TELL YOU THAT 102 ACRES IS IN R1, 40 ACRES IS IN R2, AND 170, 169 IS IN RES REC. BUT INSIDE OF THIS, IT IS, LIKE, WHICH PART IS WHAT? THE R1 IS ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT AND GOES UP OVER THE TOP. THE R2 IS OFF OF 3005. IN THE FRONT? IN THE FRONT. OKAY. AND THEN THE REST IS RESREC. OKAY. R1, 02, AND EVERYTHING. THAT'S A LOT OF RESREC. SO THE PALE YELLOW THERE IS R1. OKAY, VERY GOOD.

SO I GUESS I'M CURIOUS, BECAUSE IN THE RIS REC, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ASKING FOR, AND I MAY HAVE THIS WRONG, TO PUT IN ALMOST ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED. DID I READ THAT WRONG? ARE THERE ANY SPECIFICS? I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. WELL, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME. CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO, SO RESREC IS A VERY BROAD TERM. I MEAN, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS IN RESREC. AND ANTHONY'S BRINGING UP A GOOD QUESTION THAT I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR IS YOU'VE KIND OF ASKED FOR SOME, ARE YOU ASKING FOR ADDITIONS TO WHAT IS ALLOWED IN RESREC? ARE YOU TAKING THOSE USES AND THOSE USES, YOU WANT THOSE SAME USES, BUT YOU WANT THEM.

OVER THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY THE INTENTION.

SORRY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT. RESURRECT.

CERTAINLY, WE CAN DO A COMPARISON, BUT I THINK GENERALLY THAT IS THE INTENTION, IS TO TAKE THOSE USES AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE.

MAKE THEM PROPERTY-WIDE. AND I'M MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU WANT TO DO THIS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I'M SURE YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS IN AND SELL EVERY LOT IN SIX WEEKS, THE REALITY IS THIS IS A 20-YEAR DEAL. THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. AND, I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU'RE HOPING IT'S NOT, BUT IN MY MIND'S EYE, IT IS. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO IS YOU'RE WANTING TO MAINTAIN SOME FLEXIBILITY.

WITHIN YOUR PUD. TO GO USE, PUT DIFFERENT USES AS YOU MAY POSSIBLY SEE FIT. FIT. WOULD THAT BE A FAIR STATEMENT? HERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.

IN THE FRONT, WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL STUFF ALONG THE ST. LOUIS PASS ROAD, YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN THERE TODAY.

BUT THE WAY THIS LOOKS TO ME IS YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY IN THAT. POSSIBLY THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ONE DAY.

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PART OF THE PROJECT. BECAUSE ARE YOU, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? JEFF BLACKARD. OH, OKAY. SO, MIND IF I CALL YOU JEFF? ALL RIGHT, JEFF. SO, MY QUESTION THEN IS, WHAT'S, I GOT, AND I'M, I KNOW I'M INTERRUPTING, AND I'M, I GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO, ONE THING,THE THING THAT'S A LITTLE TROUBLESOME TO ME IS, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AT LEAST I THINK I DO. YOU'RE WANTING TO KEEP SOME FLEXIBILITY IN ALL THIS. BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS GOING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON OUR FIRST DATE TONIGHT. AND THIS IS ALL GREAT, AND WE MAY GET ALONG GREAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPEN, AND THE NEXT THING, YOU KNOW, I'M DEALING WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND. AND SHE WANTS TO REMODEL, AND SHE'S GOT THESE PRETTY MUCH... PRETTY LOOSE RESTRICTIONS ON THIS.

AND SO I'M TRYING TO GET MY HANDS KIND OF AROUND SOME OF THAT AND AND THAT IT'S GIVING YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT A BLANK CANVAS TO WORK ON. BUT IS THERE IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER TAKING SOME OF THIS STUFF AND MAYBE PINNING IT DOWN? LIKE? HE FIRST STARTED SAID, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS STUFF IN THE MIDDLE. AND I KNOW I'M KIND OF ASKING YOU TO SHIFT GEARS IN MIDSTREAM, BUT I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, QUITE HONESTLY.

YEAH, THE ANSWER IS YES. WE WANTED THE FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY ON THE ROADWAY, BECAUSE OF USES LIKE THAT THAT WE WOULD THINK WOULD BE PART OF OUR PROJECT, BECAUSE I THINK THE WEST END NEEDS E-CARE DOWN THERE. AS FAR AS RESPONDING TO YOUR HEIGHT AT 75 FEET, WE... WE WANT 50 FEET, OKAY, ACROSS THE BOARD, ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS OF IT. AND KEEP IN MIND, I MEAN, I'VE READ A LOT OF, I'VE READ YOUR COMMENTARY, I'VE READ A LOT OF THIS STUFF. AND I'M TRYING TO SAY, HEY, THERE'S GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOME CHECK AND BALANCE HERE.

BUT IF I LIVE OVER IN JAMAICA BEACH, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE. I DON'T WANT STUFF THAT CAN BE 75 FEET TALL ALONG BOB SMITH ROAD. AND THE WAY YOU'VE GOT THIS DRAWN IS THAT'S PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL STUFF. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GUYS GO, HEY, OKAY, WE'RE GOOD WITH PUTTING SOME, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S ALL. R1, WHERE THIS IS KIND OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THAT. I THINK THAT WOULD. I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE READ AND THE INPUT THAT I HEAR IS, THAT MIGHT HELP YOUR CAUSE A LITTLE BIT, IS SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT LEAST WILLING TO MAKE THIS A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND RESTRICT THE HEIGHT, LEAVE THE HEIGHT LIMIT AT 50.

50'S NOT, THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES THAT ARE 50 FEET TALL. I AGREE WITH YOU. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO THAT POINT, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW THE DRILL, BUT THAT, AND WHILE I HAVE YOU STANDING UP HERE, LET'S, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WETLANDS A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I'M, I'VE READ A LOT ABOUT THAT, AND I JUST, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN. SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IS, WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS DONE, I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T DONE A DELINEATION, BECAUSE THAT, I SAY, I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVEN'T DONE ONE. I MEAN, THOSE TAKE A LONG TIME, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO DO AT SOME POINT. BUT WHEN YOU DID YOUR PLAN HERE, WHAT KIND OF WETLANDS, STUDY OR WORK DID YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, SO YOU KNOW WHERE THE WETLANDS ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE NOT? WE DID HAVE OUR WETLANDS CONSULTANT ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

OKAY. THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROJECT.

OKAY. AND HE KIND OF GAVE YOU SOME... NOT A PERFECT DELINEATION. RIGHT, BUT IT'S A BASE. WE UNDERSTOOD GENERALLY. OKAY. SO, THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE A DELINEATION, YOU'VE GOT THE BEGINNINGS OF WHAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS. OKAY. SO YOU WERE ABLE TO USE THAT TO CREATE YOUR LAND PLAN. ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER ONE THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME IS KIND OF THE

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SO I GET IT IF YOU'RE OVER IN THE LAGOON AREA AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE KIND OF MULTI-USE AREA. BUT IF I CAN GO DO PARKING WHEREVER I WANT, I LOOK AT THIS GOING, HOLY COW, YOU COULD END UP WITH PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE LAGOON AND THEY'RE PARKED.

ANYWHERE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING PROVIDED FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS LAGOON AREA. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT I SEE GOING, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS COULD CREATE A PROBLEM.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT, JEFF, I KNOW THAT YOU WOULDN'T DO THAT, BUT YOUR GIRLFRIEND MIGHT IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. SHE MIGHT COME IN AND GO, WE DON'T CARE WHERE PEOPLE PARK. I KNOW YOU CARE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SELL ALL THIS STUFF. BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE DEALING WITH SOMEBODY ELSE LATER. THAT COULD BE A BIG PROBLEM IN THAT, OH, MAN, WE CAN GO PARK CARS WHEREVER WE WANT HERE.

IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS IS AN AMUSEMENT PARK, BUT IT'S NOT AN AMUSEMENT PARK.

IT'S ONLY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, LIKE A SEASIDE OR CINNAMON SHORES. RIGHT. MOST OF THE TRAFFIC WILL BE BY GOLF CART OR WALKING. I WOULD SAY 90% OF THE TRAFFIC GOING TO LAGOON WILL BE THAT. AND YES, I WON'T BE HERE. AS YOU SAID, IN 20 YEARS, I'LL BE GONE.

WELL, YOU MIGHT BE AROUND, JEFF. YOU NEVER KNOW. MY DAD'S 93, STILL KICKING OVER THERE ON THE SEAWALL. WHAT ABOUT TRAFFIC? YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC'S COME UP A WHOLE LOT.

IN A PERFECT WORLD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I SEE. I SEE THOSE, I SEE THE CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE IN JAMAICA BEACH GOING, HEY, WE HAVE A LITTLE, YOU DON'T GO. EAST OF JAMAICA BEACH, FOUR-LANE DIVIDED ROAD.

PRESENTS A WHOLE LOT LESS PROBLEMS. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT ROAD CHOKES DOWN THERE, IT TURNS INTO TWO LANES. ANY THOUGHTS ON, IN A PERFECT WORLD, WHAT YOU WOULD DO WITH THAT? I WOULD SAY IT'S THE STATE'S RESPONSIBILITY. RIGHT. AND THEY EVALUATE EVERY, WHATEVER, A MONTH BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON, DOING TRAFFIC COUNTS.

AND WHEN THAT DEMAND COMES, THEY'LL BUILD THE ADDITIONAL FOUR LANES THROUGH JAMAICA BEACH. AND THAT WILL BE A WHOLE ISSUE IN ITSELF. RIGHT. I CAN'T WIN IN THAT ARGUMENT. AND YOU MADE THAT STATEMENT BEFORE, AND I JUST... YOU KNOW, IT'S THE STATE'S... THAT'S WHY IT'S THE STATE HIGHWAY. I CAN'T... CAN'T MAKE THE STATE GO DO WHATEVER. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT... SO WHERE YOU HAVE THIS STUFF, THAT KIND OF FRONTS THE WATERFRONT, AND IT'S... IT'S REALLY PART OF THE BAY AND JUST SO, YOU KNOW, I AM EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. I DO A LOT OF RED FISHING WITH A POLLING SKIFF, SO I'VE BEEN OVER A LOT OF THIS. SO I HAVE A REAL GOOD IDEA WHERE THIS IS, UM, AND HOW THIS WORKS. ARE YOU GOING TO BE? IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR ANY DREDGING IN THAT IN THAT AREA? I MEAN, IT'S THE WATER, THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT DEEP WHERE YOUR MARINA IS. SO YOUR MARINA IS KIND OF, I MEAN, TO GET BOATS OVER TO WHERE YOUR MARINA IS, THAT WATER GETTING UP IN THERE IS NOT VERY DEEP.

YES, WE PLAN ON TRYING TO GET SOME DREDGE SO YOU CAN GET SMALL KAYAKS AND OTHER SMALLER BOATS OUT. SO YOU SEE YOUR BOAT STORAGE BEING MORE FOR, YOU KNOW, SMALLER BAY BOATS TYPE STUFF THAT NEED TWO OR THREE FOOT OF DRAFT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

FLOODING. I HEARD A LOT OF STUFF ABOUT FLOODING. SO WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME? I MEAN, I HAVE AN IDEA HOW THIS WORKS, BUT I WANT TO HEAR IT FROM YOU. WE HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEER, WHICH WILL DO A HYDRAULIC STUDY AND MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR WATER ENDS UP IN THE BAY. SO IT ALL GOES, IT'S, WELL, IT CAN'T LEGALLY GO ON TO JAMAICA BEACH. RIGHT.

SO. DO YOU, IS THERE ANY ACCESS FROM BOB SMITH INTO. THE DEVELOPMENT, OR WAS IT JUST STUFF THAT WOULD BE LIKE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES? IS THAT, UM, WE WOULD LIKE EMERGENCY VEHICLES? BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO. THE ONLY ACCESS IS BY. I THINK IT'S T-MOBILE HAS AN EASEMENT THAT HAS ACCESS TO IT. NO, SIR, I'M TALKING ABOUT ON BOB SMITH.

YEAH, WE DO NOT. THERE IS A EASEMENT THAT THAT T-MOBILE HAS TO. UM, GET TO BOB SMITH, BUT NO TRAFFIC FROM US WILL GO ON TO BOB SMITH. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR LITTLE GATE. SO THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A POOL OR SOMETHING THERE. THAT'S WHERE THAT TOWER IS, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN I ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENT? OH, PLEASE, PLEASE. TWENTY-SOME YEARS AGO IN PIRATES, A LITTLE HISTORY, AND RHONDA GREGG WORKED FOR ME AT THE TIME. AND WE WERE ALL

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ORIGINALLY, PIRATES HAD A BUNCH OF HURRICANE PILES ON THE FAMOUS, AS THEY CALL IT, THE DITCH, AND WE WENT AND CLEANED IT UP, AND JERRY MOAN CAME TO US AND ASKED IF WE WOULD DONATE SAND, AND I WOULD SAY MAYBE 80% OF THE SAND, SOME OF IT WENT TO THE LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT, BUT... 80% OF THE SAND WAS DONATED TO BEACH EROSION, THOSE GEOTUBES THAT ARE SITTING RIGHT THERE. AND WE DONATED A LOT OF MONEY TO GET ALL THAT STARTED WITH SHERRY O'BRIEN AND THE PIRATES HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, JERRY MOON, FOR ALL THE RESTORATION, THOSE WETLANDS RIGHT THERE. SO THEY MEAN A LOT TO ME. I THINK THAT WAS NEVER COMMUNICATED.

YOU KNOW, I'M THE DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO GO FILL THAT. AND I'LL FINISH BY SAYING THAT ONE OF MY FRIENDS, HE CAME DOWN AND BOUGHT THIS 100 ACRES AND BOUGHT 200 ACRES. AND HE ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN HIS PROJECT, AND I TOLD HIM, NO. I TOLD HIM FOR A WHOLE YEAR, EVEN THOUGH I DID COME DOWN AND MEET WITH CITY STAFF NUMEROUS TIMES JUST TO HELP HIM. BUT I SAID, I WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. YOU'VE GOT TO STAY OUT OF THE WETLANDS. THE WETLANDS. OKAY? AND HIS MASTER PLAN HAD TO DO WITH GOING UP BOB SMITH ROAD AND HAVING, BECAUSE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE NICEST LOTS THAT ARE LEFT IN THE AREA. I SAID, I WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. AND ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, HE ASKED ME AGAIN, SO I DID A MASTER PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY STAYS OUT OF ALL THE WETLANDS THAT I CARE ABOUT. AND SPECIFICALLY PROTECTS ALL THE VIEWS OF JAMAICA BEACH FROM THE BIRD SANCTUARY DOWN. I WAS BEING SO SENSITIVE. AND THAT'S WHY HE ALWAYS SHOWS THOSE TWO PICTURES, WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WHAT YOU CAN'T DO. I'M AS SENSITIVE AS ANYBODY TO THOSE WETLANDS AND PRESERVING THOSE WETLANDS. AND IT REALLY SHOULD GO INTO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE PART OF AN OWNERSHIP PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT YOU'RE MAKING, BECAUSE THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD. YOU ARE GIVING UP BASICALLY HALF OF YOUR DEEDED PROPERTY. AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING IT.

WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY? DO YOU SEE THAT BEING SET IN CONSERVATION? AND THEN THE REAL QUESTION IS, WHO WOULD BE THE STEWARD OF THAT? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, OFF THE CUFF, YOU'D SAY GALVESTON BAY FOUNDATION AND ARTISBOAT. AND I'M JUST SAYING THOSE AS AN EXAMPLE. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. ONE GOT THE EASEMENT, ONE GOT THE LAND ON BOB MOORE'S ISLAND, WHICH IS 30 ACRES. WHOEVER WOULD MAINTAIN AND TAKE CARE OF IT. IS THAT IN YOUR PLAN? I MEAN, I DIDN'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE IN HERE, BUT IF YOU GUYS...

CHAIRMAN. YES, SORRY. I'M SORRY. I KNOW I'M GETTING A LITTLE OFF BASE, BUT... IF I CAN JUST REFOCUS THE QUESTIONS ON THE PUD REQUESTS AND THE DETAILS OF THE PUD, AND NOT NECESSARILY QUESTIONS ON...

WHO WOULD BE THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THE PUD. AND THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.

BUT ASKING IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THAT IN CONSERVATION, I THINK THAT THAT IS IN THE PURVIEW OF THE PUD. SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THAT, JEFF? THAT WOULD BE MY INTENT.

I HAVE A PARTNER WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM EARLIER TODAY, SAY, I'M GOING TO A MEETING, AND I COMMIT TO PUTTING THAT INTO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

NOW WE'VE GOT TO FIND A RECIPIENT TO TAKE IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT'S PART OF THE BATTLE. I HAVE A QUESTION, JED. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL BLUEPRINTS HERE IN FRONT OF US, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE 8 BY 11.

WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SIZE OF THESE LOTS CURRENTLY IN THIS CONFIGURATION? WE MAY HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY, BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS, BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE REQUEST. THAT'S THE BIG PIECE IS TO.

TO NOT HAVE ANY RESTRICTION ON LOT SIZE IN R1 AND R2. AND I SEE THAT THE RESREC IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. OKAY, SO WE

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THE OTHER THING, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS. AND SINCE THEY DID MENTION IT IN THE APPLICATION, I JUST WANT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO KNOW THAT'S WHERE I'M PULLING THIS FROM. IT MAY NOT SOUND LIKE IT. WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM? EUROPEAN VILLAGE IDEA COME FROM? THIS IS NOT, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF EUROPEAN VILLAGES ON THE BEACHES. THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 7,500 SQUARE FEET. OKAY, THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. AND THE DRAWINGS ARE LOVELY, BUT WE'RE GALVESTON, AND NOT CORPUS, NOT DALLAS. I'M JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE THE PICTURES THAT KIND OF THREW ME WHEN I LOOKED AT SOME OF YOUR PICTURES IN THE EXHIBIT, THIS IDEA ABOUT, I MEAN, I WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE ON TOP OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

EVEN IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND IT COST ME A MILLION OR TWO DOLLARS TO HAVE THAT HOUSE, I WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE ON TOP OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

JUST CURIOUS WHERE YOUR IDEA CAME FROM. ON THE LAGOON? NO, YOU'VE MENTIONED EUROPEAN VILLAGE SEVERAL TIMES IN YOUR APPLICATION. I'M JUST CURIOUS.

WHICH EUROPEAN VILLAGE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE PASSION OURSELVES WITH BUILDING VILLAGES, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO. OTHER PLACES, LIKE THE ONE YOU SEE THERE, BUT OTHER PLACES IN THE UNITED STATES. SO THAT'S OUR PASSION. WHEN WE SAY VILLAGES, WE MEAN COMMUNITY, HOW EVERYTHING FOLDS TOGETHER IN THE CENTER. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AGE-RESTRICTED. WE BRING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. SO WHEN IT REFERS TO, WE CALL IT NEO-RETROISM, OKAY, THAT'S THE WORD WE USE.

BUT WE BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, SO WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT VILLAGE, EUROPEAN VILLAGE, THAT'S HOW PEOPLE UNDERSTAND BETTER THAT WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER IN THAT SORT OF COMMUNITY.

OKAY, I'M JUST CURIOUS. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PARKING QUESTION THAT WAS THERE EARLIER. BEING ON THE EAST END OF THE ISLAND FOR SOME TIME, WE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION IN OUR DIVISION. REGARDING A 26-FOOT ROADWAY, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF DENSITY, THERE'S A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE ALL THE WAY AROUND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. THERE REALLY ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF ROOM LEFT. FOR PARKING THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET THROUGH BUILDING, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF HARD SPACE, MEANING CURB AREA, TO PARK WITHOUT BLOCKING SOMEONE'S DRIVEWAY. SO PARKING AWAY FROM THE PROXIMITY, WHETHER IT BE RETAIL OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TWO STREETS OVER.

BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO PLACE TO GO ONCE IT'S BUILT OUT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, HERB.

ANYBODY ELSE? YES, STAN.

OKAY. ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU. OKAY. SO, GIVEN THAT YOU DID PIRATES BEACH, WHICH WAS CONSISTENT IN THE DECOR AND THE ARCHITECTURE WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL PIRATES BEACH, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS CONSISTENTLY BEING WITHIN THE ARCHITECTURE OF OUR TYPICAL BEACH AREA? YES. YES? I WOULD SAY SIMILAR TO LIKE A CINNAMON SHORES OR A... I'M CONSIDERING PIRATES BEACH, JAMAICA BEACH, OTHER BEACH AREAS, POINT WEST, ALL OF THEM THAT ARE MORE OF A BEACH ATMOSPHERE AND NOT A VILLAGE ATMOSPHERE. THEY'RE NOT A METROPOLITAN-LOOKING ATMOSPHERE. SO THIS CONVEYS METROPOLITAN. I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT AT ALL. IT'LL FEEL LIKE A LITTLE BEACH VILLAGE, LIKE SEASIDE, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO SEASIDE. OH, YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT THE HEART OF THIS FEELS LIKE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, GUYS. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I TELL YOU, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'LL GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO COME BACK AND ANSWER SOME OF THESE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET. IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYBODY? SO, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO START ON THIS SIDE, AND WE'RE GOING TO START ON THE FRONT ROW, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK, AND THEN WE'LL COME OVER HERE. SO, YOU GET THREE MINUTES. IF YOU DON'T USE ALL YOUR TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE POLITICIANS AND THE ATTORNEYS. I'M JUST KIDDING. SO, FIRST ONE, RIGHT HERE. STEP UP, FIRST ROW. WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK.

HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. AND LOOK, WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

YOU GET THREE MINUTES. TAKE A DEEP BREATH. AND IF YOU CAN, REMIND THE PERSONS THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO RESPOND BACK TO THEM. THAT IS TRUE. SO YOU CAN ASK US QUESTIONS, BUT WE CAN'T ANSWER. ALL RIGHT.

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BUT WHEN SOMETHING THIS LARGE, OVER 150 ACRES, IS PLANNED DIRECTLY NEXT TO AN ESTABLISHED COASTAL COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT JUST A ZONING REQUEST.

IT'S PERSONAL. I'M NOT STANDING HERE ANGRY. I'M ACTUALLY STANDING HERE, REALLY SAD. WE CHOSE TO RETIRE AND LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THE QUIET. BECAUSE OF THE LOW LIGHTS AT NIGHT.

BECAUSE YOU CAN STILL SEE THE STARS. BECAUSE BIRDS' NESTS MIGRATE AND FEED ALONG THE SHORELINE. BECAUSE THE STRETCH OF COAST STILL FEELS NATURAL.

THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD SIT ALONG THE BAY. IN FM 3005.

THAT MEANS MORE TRAFFIC ON AN ALREADY CONSTRAINED EVACUATION ROUTE. IT MEANS MORE NIGHTTIME LIGHTING IN A SENSITIVE COASTAL HABITAT.

IT MEANS MORE NOISE, MORE ACTIVITY, AND PERMANENT CHANGE TO AN ECOSYSTEM THAT CANNOT SIMPLY BE REPLACED ONCE IT'S DISTURBED. AND WHAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST IS WHAT WE DON'T KNOW YET. THERE ARE NO FINAL TRAFFIC STUDIES, NO DRAINAGE MODELING, NO INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY ANALYSTS, NO CONFIRMED DENSITY NUMBERS, YET WE'RE BEING ASKED IF WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH A MASTER-PLANNED RESORT COMMUNITY OF SIGNIFICANT SCALE. COASTAL COMMUNITIES ARE FRAGILE. STORM SURGE IS REAL. DRAINAGE PATTERNS MATTER. EVACUATION TIMING MATTERS. WILDLIFE HABITAT MATTERS. IF THIS IS APPROVED AND BUILT, THERE IS NO UNDO BUTTON. I AM SEEKING RESPECTFULLY THAT BEFORE SUPPORT IS OFFERED OR ASSISTANCE IS GIVEN, THAT TRANSPARENCY COMES FIRST, THAT REGIONAL IMPACTS BE FULLY STUDIED AND SHARED, THAT LIGHTING PLANS CONSIDER WILDLIFE AND DARK SKY PRINCIPLES, THAT TRAFFIC AND EVACUATION SAFETY BE CLEARLY ADDRESSED. GROWTH SHOULD NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT. OF THE VERY CHARACTER THAT MAKES THIS AREA DESIRABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

PLEASE ADVOCATE FOR CAREFUL REVIEW. PLEASE PRIORITIZE HABITAT SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. AND PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE OUR VOICES, THE NEIGHBORS, WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE, ARE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YOU DID A GREAT JOB. ALL RIGHT, NEXT. NEXT ROW. ANYBODY ON THE NEXT ROW? YES, SIR.

COME ON UP. SIGN IN. TELL US YOUR NAME. HELLO, MY NAME IS BRANDON MCDERMOTT. I AM A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF JAMAICA BEACH. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. I SERVE AS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF JAMAICA BEACH, TEXAS, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DISCOVERY SANDS DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING, I RECOGNIZE AND RESPECT THE CITY OF GALVESTON'S AUTHORITY OVER LAND USE DECISIONS WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION. MY COMMENTS TODAY ARE ABOUT ENSURING THE REGIONAL IMPACTS AND LIFE SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS ARE FULLY UNDERSTOOD BEFORE FINALIZING ZONING DECISIONS ARE MADE. FM 3005 SERVES AS THE PRIMARY ACCESS AND EVACUATION CORRIDOR FOR WEST END COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING JAMAICA BEACH. THERE ARE ALREADY OBSERVABLE TRAFFIC STACKING AT THE STOPLIGHT SERVING JAMAICA BEACH AND AREAS WEST OF JAMAICA BEACH DURING PEAK PERIODS. NOT ONLY MAY THIS PROJECT FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER EVACUATION MODELING, INCREMENTAL INCREASES IN WEST END OCCUPANCY CAN COMPOUND CONGESTION AT EXISTING CHOKE POINTS, PARTICULARLY DURING EVACUATION, DEPARTURE, AND POST-STORM REENTRY. FOR THE REASONS I RESPECTFULLY ASK, WHETHER CUMULATIVE TRAFFIC AND EVACUATION IMPACTS HAVE BEEN EVALUATED UNDER ANTICIPATED FULL PROJECT OCCUPANCY CONDITIONS. I ALSO NOTE FROM THE STAFF REPORT THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS RAISED OBJECTIONS DUE TO INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION REGARDING EMERGENCY ACCESS AND HYDRANT DISTRIBUTION. WHEN EMERGENCY VEHICLES ACCESS AND LIFE SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS REMAIN UNRESOLVED AT THE PUD STAGE, IT REINFORCES THE IMPORTANCE OF CAREFUL SEQUENCING BEFORE FINAL ZONING APPROVAL.

THIS PUD PROPOSES SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURES FROM EXISTING ZONING STANDARDS, INCLUDING LIMITS ON HEIGHT, SETBACK, AND OVERALL DEVELOPMENTAL INTENSITY. WHEN A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE SEEKS THAT LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY, IT WARRANTS CAREFUL EVALUATION, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE SHARED TRANSPORTATION AND COASTAL

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THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN ALSO SHOWS SUBSTANTIAL COASTAL INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING UTILITY SYSTEMS IN A LARGE 3.5-ACRE LAGOON.

FEATURES SITUATED NEAR GALVESTON BAY AND ADJACENT WETLANDS, WHICH, AT A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF ONLY 6 FOOT DEEP, WOULD HOLD OVER 6.5 MILLION GALLONS OF FRESHWATER.

UNDERSTANDING HOW THOSE SYSTEMS PERFORM DURING EXTREME RAINFALL, STORM SURGE, OR HURRICANE-RELATED FLOODING IS IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT SHARE INTERCONNECTED ENVIRONMENTAL AND COASTAL SYSTEMS. WHEN INFRASTRUCTURE, EVACUATION ROUTES, AND COASTAL SYSTEMS ARE SHARED ACROSS MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES, THE EFFECTS OF LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT EXTEND BEYOND A SINGLE JURISDICTION.

GIVEN THOSE SHARED CONSIDERATIONS, ADDITIONAL EVALUATION PRIOR TO FINAL RECOMMENDATION MAY ASSIST IN ENSURING LONG-TERM RESILIENCE AND INFORMED DECISION-MAKING FOR THE WEST END. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS HEATHER OWENS AND I AM A CHILDREN'S LIBRARIAN AT ROSENBERG LIBRARY. I AM ALSO A HOMEOWNER IN JAMAICA BEACH, WHERE I LIVE WITH MY FAMILY.

I'VE LIVED AND WORKED ON THE ISLAND SINCE WE MOVED HERE IN 2008, THREE MONTHS BEFORE I KID. AND ALTHOUGH MY ADDRESS IS IN JAMAICA BEACH, I AM ALSO A PROUD GALVESTONIAN. I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO DENY ANY APPROVAL, ANY AT ALL, RELATED TO THE DISCOVERY SANDS DEVELOPMENT.

TRAFFIC ALONG 3005 IS ALREADY A DAILY CHALLENGE. IF YOU DON'T LIVE ON THE WEST END, YOU SIMPLY CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO MERGE INTO. 3005 DURING THE PEAK OF SUMMER, WHICH IS A STEADY REAM OF TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY AT 11 A.M. CHECKOUT TIME WHEN YOU ARE MERELY TRYING TO GET YOUR CHILD TO DAY CAMP AND YOURSELF TO WORK ON TIME. WHAT SHOULD BE A SHORT DRIVE BECOMES A STRESSFUL GRIDLOCK CRAWL, AND THAT IS OUR REALITY NOW.

BEFORE ADDING 733 NEW HOMES, MORE THAN 200 CONDOMINIUMS, AND WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY A TOURIST ATTRACTION. THAT IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND BY ALL MEANS, THE 02,000-SOMETHING NUMBER THAT YOU STATED, I WOULD 100% GET BEHIND.

BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT.

3005 IS NOT JUST A COMMUTER ROAD. IT IS AN EVACUATION ROUTE. ADDING THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY WITHOUT IRONCLAD PROOF THAT EVACUATION TIMES, EMERGENCY ACCESS, AND TRAFFIC FLOW WILL REMAIN SAFE PUTS CURRENT RESIDENTS AT RISK. A SINGLE CORRIDOR SERVING THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE IS NOT A SMALL IMPACT. IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. THIS AREA IS ALSO PART OF A SENSITIVE COASTAL SYSTEM.

WHILE GROWTH IS INEVITABLE, DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO WETLANDS MUST BE APPROACHED WITH CARE. THE PROPOSAL RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE AND FLOODING RESILIENCE. THE WETLANDS REMAINING ON THE WEST END FUNCTION AS NATURAL STORM PROTECTION AND FLOOD MITIGATION. THEY ABSORB WATER, REDUCE SURGE, PROTECT HOMES, INCLUDING MINE. INCREASING DENSITY, REDUCING SETBACKS, GRANTING REGULATORY EXEMPTIONS NEXT TO RESTORED MARSHLANDS DEMAND EXTREME CAUTION. MORE ROOFTOPS, MORE PAVEMENT, AND MORE PRIVATE STREETS MEANS MORE RUNOFF. MANY OF US ALREADY EXPERIENCE SEVERE FLOODING DURING RAIN AND HIGH TIDES.

AND BEFORE APPROVING THE SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY SHOULD REQUIRE CLEAR, INDEPENDENT EVIDENCE THAT OUR DRAINAGE, WATER, SEWER, OUR STORMWATER SYSTEMS CAN HANDLE IT, ESPECIALLY DURING SEVERE WEATHER. OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY IS ALSO A PRESSING CONCERN. PEAK TOURISM, STRANDS, ROADS, PUBLIC SERVICES, EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES, WATER PRESSURE, SEWER SYSTEM, OUR ELECTRICITY, OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS.

AND IT MUST BE EVALUATED ON A FULL BUILD OUT, NOT BEST CASE ASSUMPTIONS. AND FROM WHAT I CAN SEE AND WHAT I'VE WITNESSED HERE SO FAR TODAY, THEY ARE UNPREPARED.

THEY HAVE BROUGHT AND GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY WORKERS AND...

STAFF AND HONESTLY, IT JUST SEEMS VERY, VERY SHORT. TIME'S UP, THANK YOU, HEY. OPPOSED TO THIS PUD FOR MANY REASONS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE NEGLIGENCE FOR NOT CONDUCTING ENVIRONMENTAL, ECOLOGICAL, TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRICAL, HEALTH, AND SAFETY IMPACT STUDIES. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE REQUESTS OF THIS PROPOSAL. I UNDERSTAND

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WE DON'T NEED TO FIND OUT THE FLOODING OR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THIS WILL HAVE ON OUR DELICATE ECOSYSTEM.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ASKING TO BUILD HIGHER BUILDINGS WITH LESS SETBACK RESTRICTIONS IN THEIR SPACE. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THIS IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR EVERYONE AROUND THAT LOCATION AND WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE WILDLIFE. THE UNDEVELOPED LANDS OF GALVESTON ARE WHAT MAKE GALVESTON UNIQUE, AND THESE HABITATS ARE CRUCIAL FOR MANY SPECIES. I DON'T NEED TO MENTION ALL OF THOSE. I LIVE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT WILDLIFE AND WILD PLACES.

PLEASE DON'T LET THEM GO AWAY.

FROM ONE OFFICE HOLDER TO ANOTHER, PLEASE CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU AND BE SURE YOU CAN JUSTIFY THE RISKS OF THESE UNCERTAINTIES. BEFORE YOU PUT OUR ISLAND'S LAST CRUCIAL HABITATS UNDER CONCRETE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT.

Y'ALL HAVE A WALKING QUORUM. I DIDN'T SAY THAT. DONNA'S NOT LISTENING. I'D GET THAT RAPPER MAN WITH A LOVING HEART. ALL RIGHT, WHAT YOU GOT? I'M MARY MORRIS. I'M THE MAYOR OF JAMAICA BEACH, AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO. AT TIMES, IT CAN BE VERY THANKLESS, AND WE SEE THIS. I HAVE SOME REAL CONCERNS ON THIS PROJECT. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AT TIMES IS A GOOD THING, BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING COMING BEFORE YOU, THAT IS NOT ALL ON PAPER, AND WHEN QUESTIONS ARE ASKED, IT'S LIKE, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE WHOLE PLAN. AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT I FEEL WE HAVE TO PASS IT SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S IN IT. IT'S NOT A WAY TO DO THINGS. SO JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, PLEASE CONSIDER. WE HAVE MET WITH THEM HERE IN JAMAICA BEACH FOUR TIMES, THREE MYSELF. AND SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS, AND THEN WITH THE PREVIOUS MAYOR. Y'ALL HAVE MET WITH THEM ONCE. I THINK THERE'S SOMETIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE TABLE AND SIT DOWN AND TALK AND FIND OUT AND GET ALL THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FIRST BEFORE IT'S PASSED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, NEXT. NEXT ROW. HERE SHE COMES. I HAVE A VISUAL AID. CAN YOU HAND IT UP TO THE... HI, I'M KATHY TIERNAN. HI, I'M FORREST THERE, KATHY. OKAY, IF YOU COULD JUST TAKE ONE AND PASS IT DOWN, I'D APPRECIATE IT. SOMETIMES A PICTURE TELLS A THOUSAND WORDS, IT'S JUST ONE EACH. I'M KATHY TIERNAN, I LIVE AT 1211 CHURCH STREET, BUT I ALSO AM PART OF A PROPERTY OWNER. AT 3814 BOB SMITH ROAD. THAT'S THE VERY LAST HOUSE AT THE END OF BOB SMITH. AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AND I APOLOGIZE AUDIENCE, THAT YOU DON'T GET THE SAME VIEW, IS. I'VE BEEN TRAVELING TO THIS PROPERTY FOR 50 YEARS, SINCE I FIRST CAME TO GALVESTON TO WORK AT UTMB. AND I'VE WATCHED THE WATER RISE, AND I'VE WATCHED THE LAND DISAPPEAR. WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS A VISUAL AID. THE TOP PICTURE SHOWS AN AERIAL VIEW. I WAS FLYING ON A LITTLE PLANE.

AND THAT LONG STRIP YOU SEE THERE IS BOB SMITH ROAD.

OKAY, SO THAT'S THE WEST END OF THE ISLAND, AND THAT'S LOOKING SOUTH. YOU ALL FAMILIAR WITH BOB SMITH ROAD? DO YOU SEE IT RUNNING ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE? OKAY, AND THEIR PROPERTY IS PROPOSED RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF THAT.

WHAT YOU SEE CIRCLED IN RED, EXPERTLY DONE BY ME, IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL SOCK.

THAT WAS PUT THERE BY A&M SOMEWHERE AROUND 2000, AND IT WENT OUT THOUSANDS

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SO THE WATER IS RISING, AND MY CONCERN ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING AS MONSTROUS AS THIS PROJECTED PLAN IS IN A LAND THAT HAS A LOT MORE WATER IN IT, THAT THAT WATER WILL BE DISPLACED. I ASSUME ALL THESE HOMES ARE ON PILINGS, BUT ALL THESE PILINGS HAVE DRIVEWAYS SO THAT THEY CAN PUT THEIR CAR AND THEIR GOLF CART AND THEIR LITTLE BOAT. UNLESS THE BOAT GOES TO THE MARINA, BECAUSE THESE ARE SECOND HOMES FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME DOWN AND USE THE WATER AND BE NEAR A MARINA. I DON'T SEE WHERE THEY'RE PARKING CARS AND GOLF CARTS. I ALSO DON'T THINK YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE A GOLF CART. THIS IS A GATED COMMUNITY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DRIVE GOLF CARTS.

UP DOWN 3005. SO LEAVING THAT PROPERTY IS ILLEGAL. SO THESE GOLF CARTS STAY THERE, AND THAT'S THAT. MY LAST CONCERN IS ABOUT THE LITTLE GROCERY STORE THAT'S THERE.

FOUR SEASONS? IT WILL BE REPLACED BY, OH, EXCUSE ME, SEVEN SEASONS. IT'S BEEN UPGRADED. IT'S THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM. IT'S THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM, AND IT WILL BE REPLACED BY A KROGER'S OR SOMETHING THAT CAN MANAGE A COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE. I HEARD THREE, SEVEN, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3,000 AND 07,000. AND THEN THE BUC-EE'S.

SO I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

PLEASE GIVE IT SERIOUS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M DR.

ALLISON O'DONNELL, AND I LIVE ON CITIGAS ROAD, AND I'VE HAD THAT PROPERTY SINCE 1998. I APPRECIATE YOUR BOB MOORE ISLAND AND ALL THE DONATIONS YOU'VE MADE TO ARTISTS. VOTE FOR... CONSERVATION. AND I DO WISH THAT BOB MOORE HAD BEEN HERE TO BE LAWYERS FOR THOSE OF US WHO WOULD ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS OBVIOUSLY THE WETLANDS AND THE IMPACT, BUT ALSO I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT COASTAL PRAIRIES AND GRASSES. I WAS PART OF THE GROUP THAT FOUGHT THE MARQUETTE DEVELOPMENT. AND FORTUNATELY, HURRICANE IKE CAME IN FINANCIAL CRISIS, AND YOU KNOW HOW LONG THAT TAKES. THE REALLY SORE THUMB TO ME TO LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A FRESHWATER FEATURE THAT OUGHT TO BE DOWN AT MARGARITAVILLE, AS OPPOSED TO A... PART OF A NICE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'VE GOT TRAFFIC. AND WE'VE GOT THE IMPACT OF THE WILDLIFE OUT ON THE WEST END. THE WILDLIFE NOT ONLY ARE THE COYOTES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HEAR ABOUT, BUT JUST REGULAR MIGRATION.

AND MIGRATION? NOW IN GALVESTON, WE MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT LIGHTS OUT. AND THIS IS CLOSE TO A HIGH. DENSITY, AREA FOR MIGRATING BIRDS AND THE LIGHTING THAT IS GOING TO BE AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ANOTHER SERIOUS CONCERN. SO I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THE NEED FOR US MAINTAINING MORE COASTAL PRAIRIES. IT'S NOT JUST MARSHES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. HEY, PLEASE SIGN IN BEFORE YOU LEAVE. AND JUST TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, IS THE RV PARK GOING TO BE NO LONGER AN RV PARK? I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE CAN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. IT WAS ON MY LIST.

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AT THE END OF BOB SMITH ROAD FOR 53 YEARS. AND I THINK I WANT TO START OUT BY SAYING, I'VE BEEN DRIVING UP AND DOWN BOB SMITH ROAD. FOR 50 YEARS. I AM NOW DRIVING AND WHEN I LOOK OUT TO THE WEST, I SEE WATER.

LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT BY MY DOOR. I'VE SEEN PIERS HAVE TO BE ELEVATED AND WE NEED SOME WAY TO HAVE A STUDY THAT'S GOING TO SHOW WHAT YOU SAY. IT'S GOING TO BE 20 YEARS FOR THIS TO BE DEVELOPED. WELL, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO KNOW HOW DEEP THAT PIER, I MEAN, THAT WATER IS GOING TO BE. IN THE MARINA, IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE BECAUSE THE EROSION, AS YOU SAW, IS GOING TO CONTINUE RIGHT THROUGH. AND IT'S NOT VERY FAR FROM WHERE THE WATER IS TO WHERE THE OTHER WATER IS.

IT'S A WEAK POINT IN OUR ISLAND. AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THE RULES THAT YOU ALL HAVE FOR SEWAGE AND DENSITY, BUT WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. VERY WELL. ALL RIGHT, NEXT. ANY MORE TAKERS ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM? COME ON DOWN. SIGN IN AFTERWARDS.

MY NAME IS GREG WHITAKER, AND I'M ON THE BOARD OF HOUSTON, AUDUBON. I'M ALSO A PAST BOARD MEMBER OF GALVESTON ISLAND NATURE TOURISM COUNCIL.

BUT I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT, JUST AS A PRIVATE RESIDENT, AND I WANT TO SAY... A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WAS LOOKING THROUGH COAST MAGAZINE LAST NIGHT JUST AS A WAY TO KIND OF EQUATE MYSELF TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ISLAND. THERE'S ABOUT THREE OF THESE MAGAZINES AROUND.

THERE'S 110 HOUSES FOR SALE IN THIS PARTICULAR VERSION OF THIS MONTH'S COAST MAGAZINE. THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF ARTICLES THAT TALK ALL ABOUT THE WILD SPACES AND OUR WILDLIFE ON THE ISLAND. AND TO ME, THAT IS WHAT GALVESTON IS ALL ABOUT. SO I WOULD QUESTION THE NEED FOR MORE HOUSING ON THE ISLAND, AND I WOULD REALLY QUESTION THE NEED TO TAKE AWAY WILD SPACES. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT IN YOUR PERUSAL HERE, BUT I DO SAY THAT ANYTHING THAT IS BEING ASKED OF YOU TO DEVIATE FROM THE STANDARDS, I WOULD REALLY QUESTION THAT, THE WISDOM OF THAT. I'LL SEE YOU TO THE REST. ALL RIGHT. SIGN IN FOR US. ALL RIGHT, WE GOT ANYBODY? HERE HE COMES.

EVERYBODY? SIGN IN, CREDIT CARD NUMBER, EXPIRATION DATE. YOU DON'T WANT MY CREDIT CARD. OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, I GUESS...

IN REFERENCE TO WHAT'S SPOKEN ABOUT A LOT. HERE LATELY, IN COMPARISON, IS SEASIDE, FLORIDA. I JUST JOTTED THIS DOWN, UH, I'VE BEEN TO SEASIDE WITH MY WIFE AT HER LITTLE BROTHER, MY BROTHER-IN-LAW'S WEDDING, AND, UH, WE HAD A BLAST. WE PARTIED, WE WENT TO RESTAURANTS, WEDDING WAS FANTASTIC. THE AREA WAS NICE. BUT WHEN WE GOT DONE AND CAME BACK HERE, MY WIFE AND I, OUR TWO COMMENTS WERE.

AFTER SEEING THE WEST END, DRIVING BACK DOWN IT, SEASIDE WAS CONGESTED AND TOURISTY. IT DEFINITELY HAD THE TOURISTY FEEL. SO THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT WE'RE GETTING HERE, WHAT'S PROPOSED. AND, RUSTY, THE SECOND THING, YOU MENTIONED THE POLLING SKIFF IN THAT COVE, WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WET SLIPS AND ALL THE BOAT TRAFFIC INTO THE DRY DOCK AREA. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A POLL IN THERE. THAT WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE DREDGED, FOR SURE.

OKAY, ON THE CURRENT LAYOUT, FOCUSING ON THE STRAIGHT ROW OF BACKSIDES OF HOMES STRETCHING THREE-FOURTHS OF A MILE DOWN. BOB SMITH IN JAMAICA BEACH. THE PUD ASKS FOR NO FRONT, SIDE, OR REAR SETBACKS. OF COURSE, THE DENSITY, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO THOSE HOMES, THEORETICALLY, OR MAYBE EVEN BUSINESSES, LIKE YOU ALLUDED TO, COULD BE CRAMMED TOGETHER.

ALONG THAT ENTIRE STRETCH,

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BY MY CALCULATION, THE HOMES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE 18 FOOT ABOVE SEA LEVEL, GIVE OR TAKE, WITH THAT. MOST OF THAT STRETCH RIGHT ALONG BOB SMITH, OR NOT MOST OF IT, BUT MUCH OF IT IS ONLY THREE OR FOUR FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL RIGHT NOW.

I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE THE ROAD TO AT LEAST THE ELEVATION OF BOB SMITH, OR PERHAPS HIGHER.

ALSO, THE LOWER STAIRWAY AND STRUCTURE HEIGHTS.

ABOVE GROUND FOR THOSE HOMES DUE TO THEIR ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS. THE UNDERNEATH AREAS, THE BUILDERS COULD LIKELY BUILD THAT UP HIGHER TO GET THOSE AREAS UP OUT OF WATER WHEN WE HAVE HIGHER TIDES. SO, TO ME, WE COULD WIND UP WITH SORT OF A BERM THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILE LONG. CONSIDERING ALL THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE ZERO LOT LINE OR NO SIDE SETBACKS.

FOR THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE, ALL THE WAY DOWN. BOB SMITH FROM 3005. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO DRAIN THEIR WATER OFF, SHED IT OFF, COLLECT IT ALL, SEND IT TO THE BAY, BUT ON OUR SIDE, ON BOB SMITH, WITH THAT ELEVATION HEIGHT RIGHT AT BOB SMITH FOR THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE, CONTINUOUSLY, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR US TO, WHERE'S THAT WATER GOING TO GO? IS BOB SMITH GOING TO FLOOD? AND IT IS ONLY...

ALL RIGHT, SIR. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. DO YOU HAVE A CREDIT CARD? OH, OKAY. HE'S NEXT, RIGHT? HELLO, MY NAME IS KIM SKAVAISA, AND I LIVE IN JAMAICA BEACH. THIS PUD APPLICATION IS ASKING FOR EXCEPTIONS THAT GO BEYOND WHAT'S NORMALLY ALLOWED IN GALVESTON. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMISSION SLOW DOWN AND TAKE A HARD LOOK AT IT. THIS PROJECT IS ASKING TO CHANGE THE VERY BUILDING STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT RULES GALVESTON HAS ALREADY APPROVED.

IT REMOVES SIDE SETBACKS, FRONT SETBACKS, REAR SETBACKS. IT REMOVES MAXIMUM LIGHTING STANDARDS. IT REMOVES MAXIMUM DENSITY LIMITS.

IT GETS RID OF MINIMUM LOT, SIZE, WIDTH, DEPTH AND WIDTH AND DEPTH REQUIREMENTS. IT INCREASES THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 50 TO 75 FEET.

ON TOP OF THAT, IT ASKS TO ALLOW FOR A STRUCTURE 159 FEET TALL. THAT'S WHAT'S BEING CALLED AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE, THE LIGHTHOUSE. ALL THIS WOULD GIVE THE DEVELOPER THE ABILITY TO PACK THIS LAND WITH HOUSES, HOTELS, CONDOS.

AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WITH VERY FEW REAL LIMITS.

THIS ISN'T JUST A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT. IT'S BEING DESIGNED AS A TOURIST DESTINATION. WITH A 3.4 ACRE LAGOON, A 1,190 FOOT LONG LAZY RIVER, AND A 2,365 FOOT LONG BOARDWALK AND OTHER THINGS, LARGE LAGOON DEVELOPMENTS ARE EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN. THAT WHEN THOSE COSTS BECOME TOO MUCH, THE FINANCIAL BURDEN COULD MEAN IT TURNS INTO A PUBLIC VENUE DOWN THE ROAD. TRAFFIC ON 3005 ALREADY BACKS UP FOR MILES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS IN FRONT OF JAMAICA BEACH DURING PEAK SEASON, ESPECIALLY AT CHECK-IN AND CHECK-OUT TIMES. AND DURING A HURRICANE EVACUATION, IT COULD BE A REAL PROBLEM.

THE MAGNITUDE AND PROXIMITY OPENS THE DOOR TO POSSIBLE DAMAGE TO WETLANDS, THE BAY, AND WILDLIFE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DENY THIS PUD APPLICATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. HELLO. Y'ALL GETTING TIRED YET? OH, NO, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.

THEY'RE GOING TO PAY US OVERTIME. I'M GOING TO NOT BE THE DEAD HORSE, SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. A TRAFFIC STUDY, IT SEEMS, IS NEEDED, BUT I ASK THAT IF THERE IS ONE, THAT IT BE HELD BETWEEN MAY AND SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE TO DO IT IN JANUARY IS NOT VERY REALISTIC. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND, THAT THAT'S A TIME WHEN WE'RE AT HIGH PEAK, AND ALSO THE TIME THAT WE MAY HAVE TO EVACUATE. THE VARIANCE OF 75 FOOT, I COULDN'T, I WASN'T SURE. IF THEY SAID,

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THE ONLY THING I SAW WAS THE BOAT STORAGE, THAT WAS FOUR OR FIVE STORIES, I THINK. WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF IRONIC BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET A BOAT IN THERE, AND SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE DREDGED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS OF DREDGING AND EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED.

BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO RE-DREDGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S BAD ENOUGH. BUT I'D LIKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT AND ASSURANCE THAT THAT REALLY IS NEEDED THERE. THAT'S A LITTLE TOO EXTREME, I THINK, STORY-WISE. THE COMMUNITY, I THINK, HAS MADE IT CLEAR. WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, TOO MUCH FLEXIBILITY, AND WE'RE IN HOPES THAT YOU WILL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK.

AT THIS AND AND SLOW IT DOWN, LIKE IT WAS SAID. BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AND YOU DON'T HAVE ALL OF YOUR ANSWERS TODAY, WHY WOULD THIS GO TO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH? IT IT JUST SEEMS TOO QUICK AND A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE. I REALLY FELT LIKE THE PRESENTATION WAS LACKING ENOUGH INFORMATION.

THE OTHER THING IS ABOUT THE WETLANDS AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

BUT IF IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, I REALLY FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOME ASSURANCE FROM THE GLO THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THE WETLANDS AND HAVE PASSED THAT INFORMATION ON TO THE DEVELOPERS, BECAUSE HOW ELSE DO WE KNOW THAT WAS DONE PROPERLY AND THROUGH ALL THE CORRECT CHANNELS? THAT'S ALL. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MA'AM. I CAN'T SIGN IN.

MY NAME IS TRACY POPPY, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF JAMAICA BEACH.

THE PROPOSED DISCOVERY SANDS DEVELOPMENT IS TOO LARGE AND TOO INTENSE FOR A FRAGILE BARRIER ISLAND ENVIRONMENT LIKE WE HAVE. ELIMINATING THE DENSITY LIMITS, SETBACKS, AND LOT PROTECTION RISKS PERMANENT ECOLOGICAL DAMAGE, INCREASES STORM DANGER TO RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, AND OVERLOADS AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS NEVER DESIGNED FOR SUCH A SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT. LIGHTING STANDARDS ARE NOT... JUST AN AESTHETIC RULE, THEY'RE AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND SAFETY MEASURE FOR BARRIER ISLAND ECOSYSTEMS. THIS COASTAL TOWER IS NOT JUST AN AESTHETIC DECISION. IT INTRODUCES STRUCTURAL SAFETY AND HURRICANE RESILIENCE RISKS THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH BARRIER ISLAND DEVELOPMENT PRINCIPLES. THIS PROJECT WOULD CONCENTRATE HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AND TOURIST UNITS IN A HIGHLY VULNERABLE COASTAL ZONE, CREATING A PERMANENT INCREASE IN LIFE SAFETY, ECOLOGICAL AND INFRASTRUCTURE RISK. THAT WILL BE BORNE BY THE PUBLIC LONG AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETED. THE SCALE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FRAGILE DUNE, WETLAND, AND COASTAL BUFFER SYSTEMS THAT PROTECT THE ISLAND FROM STORM SURGE AND EROSION.

AND I'D REMIND YOU, THIS IS THE WEST END, WHERE WE ARE MORE FRAGILE AND MORE VULNERABLE BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE SEAWALL. AND WE'RE ALREADY LOSING GROUND ON BOTH SIDES, ON THE BAY SIDE AND ON THE GULF SIDE. THE SAFER COURSE FOR A COASTAL COMMUNITY IS TO MAINTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT REFLECT THE ENVIRONMENTAL FRAGILITY AND HURRICANE EXPOSURE OF THIS BARRIER ISLAND. I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT. THIS PROJECT PROPOSES TO PLACE A VERY HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN A HURRICANE VULNERABLE COASTAL ZONE NEAR JAMAICA BEACH, ALONG THE STORM EXPOSED SHORELINE OF THE GULF OF MEXICO. REMOVING SETBACK DENSITY AND LIGHTING PROTECTIONS INCREASES PERMANENT LIFE, SAFETY, ENVIRONMENTAL AND EVACUATION RISKS. ON AN ISLAND THAT WAS NEVER DESIGNED FOR THIS SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT. SHORT-TERM ECONOMIC GAIN SHOULD NOT OUTWEIGH LONG-TERM COMMUNITY SAFETY AND COASTAL RESILIENCE.

T.R.A. KYLE, YOU'RE SUCH A GENTLEMAN. YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A...

THREE-MINUTE BREAK, AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS SHOW GOING AGAIN, SO TAKE A SEAT. YEAH, I'VE NEVER USED THIS BEFORE. HOLD ON. I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO THIS. WOW. MAN, I LIKE THAT. WELL, NOT REALLY.

OKAY. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT, SO DID YOU SIGN IN? AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME? SO, MY NAME IS EMILY EVANS. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I LIVED ON GALVESTON ISLAND. I WENT TO SCHOOL AT TEXAS. A&M, GRADUATED IN 2004 WITH A DEGREE IN OCEAN AND COASTAL RESOURCES, WHERE WE LEARNED ABOUT ALL OF THE RESOURCES, THE SCIENCES, PLUS POLITICS, ECONOMICS, AND LAW. WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, I FLED FROM TEXAS. I GOT MY FIRST JOB OUT ON CATALINA ISLAND, NATIONAL MARINE FISHERY PROTECTED AREA. I LATER

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SO, THAT BRINGS US TO TODAY.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP IS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, BUT THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAD A SUPREME COURT DECISION IN 2023. A COUPLE IN IDAHO, THEY WERE TRYING TO FILL IN A RIVERINE AREA. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS STOPPED THEM, FINED THEM. THEY SUED THE EPA.

THE EPA CAME BACK AND SAID, OKAY, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S NOT NAVIGABLE WATERS. THAT WAS A RIVER GOING TO A LAKE, AND THEY LUMPED ALL OF OUR WETLANDS INTO THE SAME BUCKET. THAT'S TIDAL AND NON-TIDAL WETLANDS.

I'M AFRAID THAT EVEN IF IT IS UP TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THEIR HANDS MIGHT BE TIED IN LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS THAT THEY CAN BUILD ON, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DID DO A GOOD JOB OF MITIGATING, AND I HAD A COUPLE THAT BOUGHT A LOT ON THE BAY. THEY WERE STILL ABLE TO BUILD ON 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF THEIR LOT, EVEN THOUGH 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF IT WAS UNDERWATER. JIM BLACKBURN, ENVIRONMENTAL LAW PROFESSOR AT RICE UNIVERSITY IN HOUSTON, HE HAS GOT A GREAT LINE. HE SAID, IF THERE WERE NO FEDERAL REGULATIONS IN TEXAS, THERE WOULD BE NO ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS. WE CAN'T LEAVE THIS UP TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE. WE HAVE TO SPEAK FOR OURSELVES AS THIS ISLAND.

WE ARE ALL CONNECTED AND SURROUNDED BY WATER. WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, I THINK IT'S SEVEN PROPOSED PUMPS TO ALLEVIATE THIS PROBLEM BEHIND THE SEAWALL. WE DON'T HAVE PUMPS. WE COULDN'T PUT THE WATER ANYWHERE. WE COULDN'T PUMP IT INTO ANYTHING.

OUT ON THE WEST END. WETLANDS HAVE AN ENORMOUS CAPACITY TO STORE FLOODWATER AND RELEASE IT SLOWLY. 1 ACRE OF WETLANDS CAN HOLD 1 TO 1.5 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER. A STRONG NETWORK OF WETLANDS IS CAPABLE OF LESSENING AND PREVENTING FLOODS DOWNSTREAM.

THAT'S VALUEWETLANDS.TAMU.EDU.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

YOU DID GOOD.

THANKS, I'M SO NERVOUS.

ALL RIGHT, COME ON DOWN.

NEXT. ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS SIDE? ARE WE DONE ON THAT SIDE? ALL RIGHT, OVER HERE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK AGAINST APPROVAL OF THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. MY NAME IS TY BUTO. I LIVE JUST SOUTH OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THIS PROPOSAL, AND I CAME HERE READY TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT WILL BE AFFECTED IF THIS PANEL CHOOSES TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A NARROWER COMMENT FIRST. I WILL SUBMIT WITH ALL HUMILITY UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE ONLY BINARY QUESTION THAT THIS PANEL HAS IS WHETHER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SUBMITTED ACTUAL PROPOSAL THAT WAS PUBLISHED AND CIRCULATED, ET CETERA. AS THIS PANEL WELL KNOWS, IT'S NO WAY TO RUN A RAILROAD FOR A PROPONENT TO SHOW UP AND SAY, WELL, HERE ARE SOME CHANGES I PUT ON A POWERPOINT. AND I'D BE WILLING TO CONSIDER THESE. AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR THE VARIANCE IN DENSITY EXCEPT FOR THAT AREA WHERE I AM. AND THESE ARE THE CHANGES, AND I PROMISE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT OR MORE ANALYSIS OR WHATEVER. I'M LOOKING FOR THE ANSWER TO THAT BINARY QUESTION. AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, YOU NEED TO KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A DENIAL AND A REASON FOR THAT DENIAL. AND I WANT TO PROVIDE YOU THE REASONS FOR THAT DENIAL. THIS NEGOTIATED ON-THE-FLY PROPOSAL AND VARIANCE FROM THE PROPOSAL IS JUST NO WAY TO RUN A RAILROAD. AND UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, I'LL HUMBLY SUBMIT NEITHER THIS ORGANIZATION NOR THE COUNCIL CAN VOTE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING THAT IS DONE BY THAT BASIS. I THINK DENIAL IS THE ONLY THING TO DO. NOW, AS FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE, THE VERY REAL REASONS THIS SHOULD BE DENIED, LET ME JUST POINT OUT A COUPLE. I STILL REMEMBER IN 2008 WHEN A TEXAS PEACE OFFICER PULLED UP TO MY HOUSE IN JAMAICA BEACH AND SAID, HEY, YOU GOT TO GET OUT BECAUSE OF IKE. AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU GOT TO TAKE A SHARPIE AND YOU GOT TO PUT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ACROSS YOUR ARM IN A SHARPIE SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO YOU ARE BY THE BODY. I DON'T WANT 07,000 MORE PEOPLE RELYING ON 3005 TO SAFELY EVACUATE IN THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE.

THIS IS NOT A JAMAICA BEACH QUESTION. THIS IS A WEST END QUALITY OF LIFE QUESTION FOR ALL OF US ON THE WEST END. NOTION THAT, AH, THE STATE CAN TAKE CARE

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SETOFFS EXIST FOR A REASON.

HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS EXIST FOR A REASON. DENSITY REQUIREMENTS, OR MAX, ALL EXIST FOR A REASON. AND IT'S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR SOME DALLAS DEVELOPERS TO COME IN HERE AND AND SAY, PLEASE CHANGE ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS FOR US BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN AMBITIOUS PLAN.

IT'S ALSO A QUESTION OF FAIRNESS. THINK OF ALL THE LOCAL BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS WHO'VE COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION AND THEY TOOK THE REQUIREMENTS, THE REGULATIONS THIS COMMISSION'S CHARGED TO ENFORCE, THEY TOOK THOSE AS THEIR GUIDE, AS THEIR RULES, AND THEY BUILT ALL OVER THE WEST END ACCORDING TO THOSE RULES. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TELL THE DALLAS DEVELOPERS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY ANY OF THEM? PLEASE DENY THE REQUEST. THANK YOU, SIR. ARE YOU RUNNING FOR OFFICE? BECAUSE I GOT TO— VOTING ENDS AT 7. ALL RIGHT, NEXT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION. MY NAME IS JACOB HUPP. I'M THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND PUBLIC POLICY MANAGER FOR THE GALVESTON BAY FOUNDATION. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE DEVELOPER FOR RECOGNIZING THE GALVESTON BAY FOUNDATION AS A GOOD STEWARD OF THE LAND. I WOULD TEND TO VERY MUCH AGREE WITH THEM ON THAT. WE HAVE 3 PRIMARY CONCERNS WITH 26P-009. THE FIRST BEING POTENTIAL IMPACTS, AND I WILL BE BRIEF AS NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE. YOU'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND I THINK THEIR VOICE SPEAKS MUCH LOUDER THAN MINE DOES.

OUR FIRST CONCERN IS POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE JUMBOLEE COVE PHASE 1 AND 2 RESTORATION PROJECTS THAT WERE UNDERTAKEN OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. IF YOU'LL LOOK IN THE RES/REC SECTION OF THIS MAP, YOU'LL SEE THE MOUNDS THAT WERE REDONE OVER IN THE EARLY 2000S. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS SKEPTICALLY AND DISAGREE THAT THIS WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THAT AREA. WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL FURTHER LEAD TO LOSS AND FRAGMENTATION OF EXISTING WETLAND HABITAT, HARMING THE ISLAND'S RESILIENCE TO STORMS. INEVITABLE IMPACT— AND I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEEN MENTIONED IS THERE WILL BE INEVITABLE IMPACTS TO WATER QUALITY FROM ADDITIONAL NON-POINT SOURCE RUNOFF. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN RAISED YET. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A— LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC DOLLARS INVESTED INTO THOSE RESTORATION PROJECTS.

AND JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S A GOOD— IT'S GOOD POLICY TO JEOPARDIZE THOSE PUBLIC FUNDS THAT WERE INVESTED IN THOSE PROJECTS.

AND THAT MONEY CAME FROM KEPRA. THAT MONEY CAME FROM THE GALVESTON BAY ESTUARY PROGRAM, FROM THE GLO, FROM U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE. AND I HONESTLY AM A LITTLE BIT QUESTIONING EXACTLY HOW THEY OWN PART OF THAT, TO BE FRANK. AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST MY MISUNDERSTANDING. BUT WE WOULD JUST GENERALLY URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THIS AND DO SO. I WILL SAY ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I THINK THAT EXEMPTIONS ARE BAD POLICY GETTING IN THE WAY OF GOOD POLICY, AND I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT.

-- ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, IT'S RUNNING OUT OF ROOM ON THIS SHEET. OKAY, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JO HEWITT, 415 EAST BEACH DRIVE. I WASN'T SURE IF I WOULD MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. I CAME PREPARED JUST IN CASE, BUT I MAINLY CAME JUST TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS AT THE WEST END OF THE ISLAND. HOWEVER, I MUST ADMIT I AM EXPERIENCING A STRONG SENSE OF DÉJÀ VU. IT WAS NOT LONG AGO THAT MANY OF US STOOD HERE WHEN MARGARITAVILLE REQUESTED A VARIANCE FOR REASONS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED BY THE DEVELOPER TONIGHT. WHY DO DEVELOPERS FEEL SO COMPELLED TO ASK FOR MORE? LDRS ARE NOT SUGGESTIONS. THEY ARE PROTECTIONS. I RECENTLY LEARNED THAT CITY COUNCIL CANNOT CREATE AN LDR UNLESS IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WHAT IS DEEPLY CONCERNING IS THAT WE ARE STILL OPERATING UNDER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADOPTED IN 2011. 15 YEARS LATER, OUR ISLAND IS MORE BUILT OUT, MORE SATURATED, AND MORE VULNERABLE THAN EVER.

THERE ARE VERY FEW SAFEGUARDS LEFT PROTECTING THE LIMITED UNDEVELOPED LAND WE STILL HAVE.

AND NOW,

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OUR TEAM'S MISSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO WORK CONSTRUCTIVELY WITH DEVELOPERS TO INCORPORATE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, MEANINGFUL GREEN SPACES, WETLANDS, AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS INTO SITE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS. WE'VE REACHED OUT IN GOOD FAITH BEFORE, INCLUDING THE MARGARITAVILLE DEVELOPERS WHO, OH, DO NOT RESPOND. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. GROWTH DOES NOT HAVE TO COME AT THE EXPENSE OF HABITAT, BUT IT REQUIRES INTENTION AND RESTRAINT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION CARRIES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY. YOU ARE THE DECISION MAKERS. YOU ARE ONE OF THE LAST LINES OF DEFENSE AGAINST CONTINUED OVERDEVELOPMENT AND THE SATURATION OF THIS ISLAND.

PLEASE DO NOT TAKE YOUR VOTE LIGHTLY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEW COMP PLAN'S COMING. GOOD EVENING.

THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING EXEMPTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BYPASS STANDARD SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL RULES. THESE CHANGES WILL ALLOW HIGH-DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA THAT HAS RECEIVED CLOSE TO A DECADE OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT TOTALING OVER $1 MILLION IN MARSH RESTORATION, PRESERVATION, AND STORM PROTECTION. THERE ARE WELL OVER 100 ACRES OF MARSH RESTORATION AND PRESERVATION THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT, AND I BELIEVE PUBLIC RESTORATION PROJECTS AND EFFORTS SHOULD BE SAFEGUARDED FROM INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

THE COVID HAD 3 PHASES—PHASE 01, 2, AND J COVE RESTORATION AND PRESERVATION—THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED FROM 2001 TO 2010 BY TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE WITH FUNDING FROM THE GALVESTON BAY ESTUARY PROGRAM, THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE, U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE, AND NOAA'S COMMUNITY-BASED RESTORATION PROGRAM. NOAA ALSO SUPPORTED WITH TECHNICAL SUPPORT.

NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGEMENT AGENCIES AT THE FEDERAL, STATE, REGIONAL, AND LOCAL LEVEL CONTRIBUTED TO THIS FOOTPRINT ENCOMPASSING THE CREATION OF OVER 100 ACRES OF ESTUARINE MARSH AND INTERTIDAL MARSH, AND OVER 100 ACRES OF MARSH THAT WERE PRESERVED AND PROTECTED. AS YOU'VE HEARD, HURRICANE AND RAIN EVENTS QUICKLY CAUSE WATER TO RISE, AND RESTORED MARSHES ABSORB STORMWATER. THEY REDUCE STORM SURGE AND FLOOD RISK ON THE ISLAND. THE ADDITION OF HUNDREDS OF NEW HOMES AND CONDOS ADJACENT TO THIS RESTORED AND PRESERVED AREA WILL PUT ADDITIONAL PRESSURE ON THIS SYSTEM AND FLOOD EVACUATION ROUTES DURING HURRICANES AND STORMS. THIS MARSH AREA IN THE WEST BAY SUPPORTS HABITAT FOR PROTECTED SPECIES SUCH AS THE BLACK RAIL AND OVER 327 MIGRATORY SPECIES OF BIRDS, THE MOST DOCUMENTED IN NORTH AMERICA. IT ALSO HAS REPTILES AND MAMMALS AND IS A VITAL NURSERY FOR SHRIMP, CRAB, REDFISH, FLOUNDER, AND OTHER SPECIES THAT SUSTAIN NUMEROUS STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR RECREATION AND COMMERCIAL FISHING INDUSTRIES ON THE ISLAND.

MARSHES FILTER CONTAMINATION, NUTRIENTS, AND SEDIMENT FROM WATER RUNOFF, AND THEY IMPROVE OVERALL WATER QUALITY IN THE BAY. AND THEY CAPTURE AND STORE ATMOSPHERIC CARBON.

COASTAL MARSHES ARE CONSIDERED AMONG THE MOST PROTECTIVE— OR PRODUCTIVE ECOSYSTEMS ON EARTH. BUT THEY ARE CONSTANTLY UNDER THREAT FROM DEVELOPMENT AND SEA LEVEL RISE. IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PERMITTED, IT WOULD STRESS THIS ECOSYSTEM AND INCREASE RUNOFF AND THREATEN THE LONG-TERM STABILITY OF THIS AREA OF THE ISLAND.

FOR THIS REASON, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DENY APPROVAL OF THIS PUD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE, AND I APOLOGIZE. I'M JONI STEINHAUS. I'M A RESIDENT, AND I'M ALSO THE PROGRAM— OCEAN PROGRAM DIRECTOR TURTLE ISLAND RESTORATION NETWORK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? HI, MY NAME IS RON WOOTEN. SIR, YOU MAY CALL ME RED WOLF RON IF YOU'D LIKE. RED WOLF RON, I LIKE IT. OKAY, IT WORKS. UH, SIR, I'M A RESIDENT OF GALVESTON NOW. WE LIVED IN JAMAICA BEACH SINCE 1990, MOVED

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IT'S A STORY MAP. I'M SORRY I ONLY PRINTED 6 OF THEM. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE 8 PEOPLE UP HERE. SORRY, APOLOGIES. I'LL SEND YOU THEM EMAIL. I ALSO PRINTED THE NATIONAL MARINE FISHERIES JCOV REPORT 2010.

SOMETHING GOOD TO READ. I WORKED AT THE NATIONAL MARINE FISHERIES HERE WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1990. GOT TO WORK IN MANY OF THE WETLANDS OUT THERE. AS A FISHERIES BIOLOGIST, VERY GRATEFUL. THE TWO PROJECTS THAT WILL NOT— THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE PROJECT 9 AND PROJECT 12. AND THOSE TWO PROJECTS ARE NOT— THEY'RE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PROJECTS. PROJECT 9 COST APPROXIMATELY $2.8 MILLION, AND PROJECT 12 WAS $1.7 MILLION. PLUS ALL THE MONEY THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO GALVESTON THROUGH ALL THE RESEARCHERS AND THROUGH ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DID ALL THE CONSTRUCTION. THE OTHER THING REGARDING THAT DEVELOPMENT, WE KNOW HOW MUCH BIRDING IS WORTH HERE ON THIS ISLAND THROUGH FEATHER FEST AND THE SANDHILL CRANE WORK, OR THE SANDHILL CRANE ENJOYMENT. $107 BILLION IN 2022 ALONE FOR BIRDING STUFF. AND OF COURSE, OUR GALVESTON GHOST WOLVES, OUR GALVESTON CANIDS.

THEY MAY JUST BE COYOTES, BUT THEY HAVE GHOST ALLELES IN THEM THAT ARE PRICELESS IN TERMS OF GENETICS OF OUR RED WOLVES AND GENETICS OF CANIDS IN GENERAL.

ON THE BACK HERE, YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE OF SANDHILL CRANES THAT WAS OUT THERE FEBRUARY 22ND WHEN I WAS OUT THERE DRIVING THROUGH TO LOOK. THIS FRONT HERE HAS SIGHTINGS THROUGH THE COLLARED CANID DATA OF THE GULF COAST CANID PROJECT. AND I ALSO HAVE INCLUDED SIGHTING DATA AND THE WAY THIS IS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES HERE ON THE ISLAND. THANK YOU. AND I THINK WE GOT A LOT OF YOUR STUFF WHEN YOU SUBMITTED YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT STUFF, SO I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT.

-- ALL RIGHT, NEXT. HELLO. MY NAME IS DIANA SHARON AND I LIVE IN JAMAICA BEACH. I'M ALSO AN ALDERWOMAN THERE. ONE THING— ON THURSDAY NIGHT WE HAD THE DEVELOPER THERE AND IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

BUT ONE THING HE DID MENTION, WHICH I REALIZE IS NOT ACTUALLY IN THIS PLAN RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO ACQUIRE THE LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 3005.

TO BUILD A BEACH CLUB, A PRIVATE BEACH CLUB. WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT ANY STUDIES THAT ARE DONE, ENVIRONMENTAL, SO FORTH, WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE IT REALLY WOULD KIND OF BE INCOMPLETE WITHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I'VE GOT.

I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER, LET ME CHECK THIS DOOR. OH YEAH, IS THERE ANYBODY IN ROOM 204? I THINK THEY'RE ALL IN HERE, BUT WE'LL CHECK.

WE DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE YOU.

THAT'S WHERE ALL THE SNACKS ARE. HEY, HELLO EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JEFF SINESHEIMER. I'M A 5TH GENERATION BOI. I CURRENTLY LIVE IN TIKI ISLAND AND FREQUENTLY DRIVE AND BOAT TO THAT AREA. I LOVE AND CHERISH THE WIDE OPEN NATURAL SPACES THIS AREA OFFERS AND IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT REASONS WHY I'VE CHOSEN TO REMAIN HERE.

THE MY ENTIRE LIFE. I'M ALSO AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBER OF THE GALVESTON SURF RIDERS

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THIS COULD BE A WASTE OF ALL OF OUR TIME. CITY COUNCIL, IN RESPONSE TO THE WORK OF CITIZENS ON THE IKE RECOVERY COMMITTEE, ADVANCED A RESOLUTION TO THE CORPS STATING THE CITY WAS OPPOSED TO ANY NEW BAY ACCESS CANALS BEING DUG. THIS AVOIDS FURTHER ENABLING A BREACH DURING A HURRICANE. HOW HAS THIS PROJECT GOT PAST THAT RESOLUTION? EVEN IF THESE HOUSES AREN'T ON CANALS, OBVIOUSLY DREDGING A MAIN CANAL WILL BE NECESSARY FOR MARINA ACCESS. I'M VERY CONCERNED FOR MY FRIENDS IN JAMAICA BEACH WHO WILL CERTAINLY FEEL LIKE THEIR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN INVADED, AND ADDING SO MUCH PAVEMENT WILL INEVITABLY INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF FLOODING, ADDING TO THE ALREADY POOR DRAINAGE ISSUES.

TRAFFIC ON 3005 ALREADY GETS SO BAD ON CERTAIN DAYS, I EVEN REFUSE TO GO TO PARTIES THAT SOME OF MY VERY BEST FRIENDS THAT LIVE OUT THERE ARE THROWING. THAT'S ON ON TOP OF THE GRIDLOCK 60— ON 61ST STREET OFTEN SEES.

THIS WILL JUST EXACERBATE THAT AND MORE MISSED PARTIES FOR ME. ALLOWING EXEMPTIONS WILL SET A BAD PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS. I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE PACE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OCCURRING DOWN THERE, AND THIS WILL AFFECT THE SO-CALLED COASTAL BARRIER CHANGES PLANNED THERE IN THE FUTURE. I TOO DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR MORE HOUSING CURRENTLY, AND PLENTY OF INVENTORY FOR SALE AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I ASK THAT YOU DECLINE THEIR REQUEST FOR EXEMPTIONS. AND THANK YOU, SIR. AND I KNOW YOU GET THE PARTYING IN. I SAW YOU ON THE STRAND DURING MARDI GRAS.

-- ALL RIGHT, NEXT. LET'S SEE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. MY NAME IS JANA MCDERMOTT, AND I HAVE JUST ONE LITTLE PICTURE TO PAINT FOR YOU. AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT ALL— AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE WETLANDS. I GREW UP DOWN ON THE WEST END OF GALVESTON ISLAND. AND HAVE DONE MY SHARE— FAIR SHARE OF EVACUATIONS. WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IN THE EVENT OF A MANDATORY EVACUATION OFF OF THE ISLAND, THE PASS IS CLOSED. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW THE 2 LANES GO DOWN TO THE— OR THE 4 LANES GO DOWN TO THE 2. YOU CANNOT GO OUT THE FAR WEST END OF THE ISLAND IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION. EVACUATION.

THIS WOULD JUST ADD SO MUCH CONGESTION AND DANGER TO THOSE— THOSE OF US WHO WOULD BE EVACUATING.

SO I JUST WANT TO JUST THROW THAT PICTURE IN THERE FOR YOU TO VISUALIZE AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND HOPE THAT YOU DON'T.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HI. I MADE IT. I'M THE LAST PERSON, I THINK.

BUT MY NAME IS SARAH FLOURNOY, AND THAT'S MY HUSBAND, DON VERSER, IN THE BACK. WE HAVE A HOUSE IN INDIAN BEACH, AND I AM ON THE BOARD OF MEMORIAL PARK CONSERVANCY IN HOUSTON, COASTAL PRAIRIE CONSERVANCY, THE DAMUTH FOUNDATION, WHICH SUPPORTS PROJECTS IN GALVESTON, AND I'M ON THE BOARD OF ADVISORS OF HOUSTON AUDUBON. I PREPARED MY REMARKS LOOKING AT WHAT WAS POSTED PUBLICLY ONLINE, SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT LIGHTING AND DENSITY ISSUES..

BUT THEN THESE CHANGES WERE THROWN INTO THE MIX AT THE LAST MINUTE. SO IF I'D KNOWN THAT, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE PREPARED COMMENTS AGAINST THE HEIGHT AND THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE PROJECT. THE DRAWINGS SHOW AN UNNATURAL LOOKING LAGOON WITH BRIGHT

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LIGHTING SHOULD BE MINIMIZED TO PROTECT WILDLIFE, PROTECT OUR VIEWSHED, AND ENSURE OUR ABILITY TO ENJOY THE NIGHT SKY UNIMPEDED.

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I'VE BEEN MEANING TO CONTACT THE HOLIDAY INN NEAR US BECAUSE ITS LIGHTS ARE SO MUCH BRIGHTER THAN THE OTHER LIGHTS NEAR US AND DO AFFECT OUR EVENING ENJOYMENT. YOU ALREADY HEARD A LOT ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT I THINK HOTELS AND CONDOS AND PACKED-TOGETHER RESIDENTS IS NOT IN CHARACTER WITH BENEFITING THE WEST END.

IN FACT, I THINK IT'S AN INSULT TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND PAYS NO HEED OR RESPECT TO THE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT OF THE PUBLIC DOLLARS USED TO ENHANCE THE WETLANDS THERE.

THESE LAST-MINUTE CHANGES AND THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED LEAVE ME WITH A LACK OF TRUST FOR THE VISION OF THIS PROJECT OVERALL. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE VIEWS AND PRIORITIES OF THE WEST END OR THE CITY OF GALVESTON. TALL BUILDINGS, BRIGHT LIGHTS, DENSELY BUILT ARTIFICIAL STRUCTURES WILL HARM THE COMMUNITY OVERALL. PLEASE HELP US PRESERVE THE PEACE AND QUIET AND BEAUTY THAT WE CHERISH FOR US AND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? SHE REALLY THE LAST ONE? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. JEFF OR JED, WE'LL GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO COME UP AND GIVE US A LITTLE REBUTTAL IF YOU'D LIKE.

I THOUGHT I WOULD BE HERE TO GET AN AWARD, NOT BE SLAMMED OF ALL THE STUFF THAT I'VE DONE ON THE WEST END FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. I MEAN, I'M KIND OF SHOCKED THAT I CARED SO MUCH ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. SO MY REBUTTAL IS, UM, IT'S NOT AN AMUSEMENT PARK. I'VE DONE PROJECTS LIKE THIS CALLED HERITAGE LAKES. THEY HAVE LAZY RIVERS, SWIMMING POOLS, PAR 3 GOLF COURSES. I'VE DONE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THAT, SO IT'S NOT AN AMUSEMENT PARK.

REGARDING BOB SMITH ROAD, IF THE WATER IS COMING TOWARDS US, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. THE PART OF THE BOB SMITH ROAD WATER COMES TOWARDS US, WHICH IS ILLEGAL PER STATE REGULATIONS, AND REALLY THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT— JAMAICA BEACH. I'M SURE THAT WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THEIR DRAINAGE ONTO OUR PROPERTY. EARLIER, ON THE HEIGHT LIMITS, CERTAINLY WE AGREE TO 50 FEET.

AS FAR AS A LOT OF THINGS WERE SAID THAT WE DIDN'T AT THE LAST MINUTE. WE'VE BEEN IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS. IN FACT, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR OVER A YEAR.

FOR A SEWER TREATMENT PLANT, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO DO A SEWER TREATMENT PLANT.

WE CAN EASILY GO INTO A LIFT STATION. WE'VE HAD TWO PROPOSALS ON TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET INTO A LIFT STATION, BUT THE CITY CAME TO US AND ASKED US, WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM ON THE WEST END WAS SEPTIC TANKS GOING INTO THE BAY CAUSING FECAL TO COME AROUND TO THE BEACHES. THAT'S NOT— I DON'T WANT TO BUILD A SEWER TREATMENT PLANT. BUT I SAID, YES, I WILL DO THAT, AND I WILL GIVE ENOUGH LAND THAT WILL BE ENOUGH TO SATISFY TREATING INDIAN BEACH AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS FARTHER TO THE WEST. I'M GOING TO GO BACK. I UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENT. I KNEW WHEN I WALKED IN HERE IT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

TODAY I'M HERE. MAYBE TOMORROW I'M NOT HERE. OK? MAYBE STEVE MAY GOES AND DEVELOPS THIS PROJECT LIKE ONE OF THOSE PLANS THAT YOU SAW THAT'S WITHIN THE GUIDELINES THAT HE CAN DO. HE CAN GO DO THAT TODAY. HE DOESN'T NEED TO COME HERE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE P&Z AND GET THAT APPROVED. PER BYRIGHTS THAT YOU STATED EARLIER. I THOUGHT ONE PERSON WOULD GET UP AND SAY THANK YOU FOR LEAVING THE HABITAT IN OUR VIEW CORRIDOR. JUST ONE PERSON SAY THAT. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT REALLY WAS DISAPPOINTING TODAY THAT I THOUGHT TAKE CARE

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WELL, A MAN SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY. HE WILL DEVELOP IT. I'M ONLY INTERESTED IN THE PLAN THAT I PUT TOGETHER. IF HE EXECUTES ON THE OTHER PLAN, I'M NOT INTERESTED. I WANT TO PROTECT THE HABITAT. ASK SHERRY O'BRIEN, FISH AND WILDLIFE. I WISH BOB MOORE WAS HERE BECAUSE HE WOULD GET UP HERE AND SAY THAT I CARE AND I DID THINGS I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO. TRAFFIC— I MEAN, GO TO THE STATE. THE STATE HAS TRAFFIC STUDIES. THEY KNOW THE PRESSURE. I DON'T KNOW, DID THEY NOT GET THE 4-LANE RIGHT-OF-WAY THROUGH JAMAICA BEACH? I DON'T KNOW. DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT-OF-WAY TO DO IT? I DON'T KNOW. BUT JAMAICA BEACH KNOWS BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY HAVE COMPLAINED TO THE STATE NUMEROUS TIMES.

BUT A TRAFFIC STUDY IS DONE EVERY YEAR BY THE STATE.

ANYBODY CAN GET IT. I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT ANYTHING NEXT DOOR. BUT IN 1960, ALL OF JAMAICA BEACH WAS A WETLAND. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. 170 ACRES OF THE 300 ACRES WAS A WETLAND.

OKAY? I'M HERE TO PRESERVE WHATEVER I CAN ON THE WETLANDS. THEN THEY TALK ABOUT MARKET STUDY. I HEAR THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE'RE TRYING TO COUNTER THE MARKET RIGHT NOW. YES, WE KNOW THE MARKET'S NOT REAL GOOD RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE 2 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE WE DELIVER ANYTHING.

AND WE KNOW IT HAS TO DO WITH OIL PRICES. WE KNOW IT HAS TO DO WITH A LOT OF GLOBAL MARKETING FOR THE PROJECT. AND I'M SORRY THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, OK? MADE US KIND OF LOOK STUPID. BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THAT WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT LOT SIZES, WHEN YOU ASK YOU FOR AN AVERAGE, KEVIN COULDN'T COME UP WITH AN AVERAGE SPUR OF THE MOMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE 04,500, WE HAVE 9,000, AND YOU ASKED FOR AN AVERAGE. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO ANYWAY, ALL YOU CAN DO IS JUDGE ME FROM MY PAST— CHRISTMAS TREE POINT, LAFITTE'S POINT— WHAT I'VE DONE AS FAR AS THE ENVIRONMENT WHEN I ACTUALLY DO PUT LOTS ON THE GROUND DOWN IN GALVESTON. AND I'M HERE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR.

OKAY, GIVEN WHAT WE'VE HEARD HERE, I THINK YOU SAID EARLIER THAT THE TOWER WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD LIVE WITHOUT IN A WAY, OR THE HEIGHT OF IT IS SOMETHING YOU COULD LIVE WITHOUT. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, I WOULD CALL IT 100 FEET, BUT I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN I DID ADRIATICA AND THERE WAS A BELL TOWER AND I HAD MEASURED THE BELL TOWER IN EUROPE THAT I WAS REPLICATING, AND I KNEW THE SCALE OF EVERY BUILDING IN THAT ONE SHOT YOU SAW.

COOL. AND I KNEW IT NEEDED TO BE 157 FEET, BUT THEY WENT AND NEGOTIATED 20 FEET OFF OF IT. SO THAT IS— IF YOU SAID YOU CAN'T DO A MONUMENT, OKAY, NO MONUMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC IF WE COULD. BUT AGAIN, TO AN EARLIER COMMENT, YOUR TAKE, THE CHARACTER OF THAT IS MORE THE EUROPEAN CHARACTER, NOT SOUTH TEXAS, GALVESTON ISLAND. IT'S ALL BEACH. IT'S ALL BEACH. IT'S A LIGHTHOUSE. IT'S NOT A BELL TOWER. IT'S A LIGHTHOUSE. OH, IT'S A LIGHTHOUSE. OKAY. LIKE CORPUS CHRISTI THAT I BUILT.

EXAMPLES OF WHAT I'VE DONE.

DOES THAT LIGHTHOUSE NEED TO BE 100 FEET? OKAY, 100 FEET.

WELL, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT. IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS. BUILD A LIGHTHOUSE LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO DO PIERS THAT ARE 90 FEET DOWN EVERY 5 FEET ANYWAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, JEFF, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR TIME, AND YOU COMING TO GALVESTON. AND AGAIN, AND LET'S SEE WHERE WE GET WITH THIS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK TO— I MEAN, I GUESS EVERYBODY HERE, SO I MEAN, MAYBE I WON'T BE BACK NEXT WEEK. SOMEBODY ELSE WILL BE UP HERE, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I'M NOT YOUR ENEMY. I'M TRYING TO DO A DEVELOPMENT FOR A GUY, TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ROAD AND THOSE WETLANDS. THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. YES, SIR.

I MOVE WE DEFER 26-P-009

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BUT I THINK OUR ONLY OPTION IS TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT. NO, WE CAN DEFER. YOU CAN DEFER? YEAH. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A— YES, MA'AM, HOLD ON.

ATTORNEY'S GONNA WEIGH— THE LEGAL EAGLE IS WEIGHING IN.

I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THERE WERE ABOUT 9 ELEMENTS OF THE REQUEST, AND PROCEDURALLY THE GROUP COULD TAKE IT ALL AS ONE AND MAKE A MOTION FOR IT, OR INDIVIDUALLY. HOWEVER, WITH THE MOTION TO DEFER, IF YOU CAN RESTATE THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN RESTATE YOUR MOTION SO THAT WE CAN DIRECT WHO NEEDS TO ANSWER WHAT QUESTIONS.

OKAY, MOTION TO DEFER UNTIL QUESTIONS ON THE HEIGHT, DRAINAGE, LIGHTING, TRAFFIC, AND ENVIRONMENTAL CAN BE ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT. SO THAT'S THE MOTION. SO I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

I'M SORRY, CAN WE GET A DEFERRAL DATE? DATES? LET'S DO IT TO OUR— WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING? NEXT MEETING WOULD BE MARCH 17TH, BUT THAT'S BEEN CANCELED.

MEETING AFTER THAT IS APRIL 7TH. APRIL 7TH. AND IS THAT FOR THE APPLICANT TO BRING BACK THE INFORMATION IN WHICHEVER FORM THE APPLICANT WANTS TO BRING IT BACK, OR ARE YOU ASKING STAFF TO BRING BACK SOMETHING? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. LET'S FIND OUT. IF WE DEFER THIS, JEFF, IS APRIL 17TH YOU CAN— I'M SORRY, NO. THE MOTION IS ON THE TABLE.

YOU CAN TABLE THAT FOR A SECOND TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS OF WHAT— OKAY, THEN I'M GOING TO TABLE— WE'LL TABLE THE MOTION THAT'S BEEN SECONDED.

BUT GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, GOOD. IT DID GET SECONDED, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THAT.

APRIL 7TH, SEE IF YOU CAN ANSWER— COULD YOU ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS FOR US? TELL US A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT A DEFERRAL DOES FOR YOU. LET'S GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FIRST. I MEAN, HOW DO WE GO— HOW DO WE DO THIS? SO LET'S SEE, WE HAVE— WELL, THE MOTION IS TABLED. WE'RE BACK TO NORMAL. SO WE COULD— WE REALLY NEED A— WE NEED A MOTION WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION TO DO THAT. SO YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE IT. GIVE US JUST A SECOND THERE, JEFF.

SORRY ABOUT THIS.

SO WE'RE GONNA— IS IT— NO, HOW DO YOU— BACK TO THE— OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER AND A SECOND. NOW WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT, ANTHONY, YOU'RE UP.

ASK YOUR STAFF QUESTIONS.

OR YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN FOR A SECOND UNTIL THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

ON THE FIRST TWO REQUESTS FOR THE DEVIATION, MINIMUM LOT SIZE, MINIMUM WIDTH— MINIMUM LOT SIZE, ACCORDING TO WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE APPLICANT, THEY'RE— EVEN WITH THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE, THEY'RE WITHIN THE LDR THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY, YES OR NO? I'M NOT CLEAR. YOU CAN ANSWER IT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION. OKAY.

BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING FOR TO JUST ELIMINATE OR IGNORE MINIMUM LOT SIZES IN THE LDRS, BUT IF THEIR AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS 7,600, THEN THEY'RE ALREADY WITHIN— THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXISTING LDR. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THEY COULD BE.

THEY COULD BE OR IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE— WE DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.

WELL, JUST, JUST FOR CONVERSATION'S SAKE, THE R-1 REQUIREMENT IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET. THE RES/REC IS 01,600, SO THEY ARE WELL WITHIN THOSE LIMITS.

OKAY. AND SO WE HAD A CONVERSATION YESTERDAY ABOUT DENSITY.

SO YES, THEY'RE WELL WITHIN THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS. THEY ARE WAY WELL WITHIN THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS. SO THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS NOT EVEN REALLY AN ISSUE. THEY'RE IN— THEY'RE WITHIN THE LDRS. WE DON'T HAVE THE— AM I LOOKING AT THIS WRONG? WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO CONFIRM THAT. CONFIRM THAT.

OKAY. SO THE SAME THING WOULD APPLY WITH MINIMUM LOT SIZE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY. SO WE DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO THE ONLY CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT AGREED TO HERE WAS DENSITY AND LOT SIZE. LIGHTING— OR DIDN'T AGREE TO, BUT MADE MENTION OF. MADE MENTION OF THE DENSITY AND THE LIGHTING.

SO— MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S VARYING LOT SIZES, AND THEN THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT MINIMUMS THEY ARE PROPOSING.

SO THERE'S AN AVERAGE, BUT HOW LOW DO THEY WANT TO GO? GOTCHA. OK. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT MAKES ME ASK A QUESTION. ARE THERE HEIGHT AND DENSITY REQUIREMENTS?

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER STAFF QUESTIONS? PLEASE. GREAT COMMENTS, EVERYONE. AS WE LOOK AT THESE 9 REQUESTS IN THIS PUD AND WE DISCUSS THESE, I'M HEARING A LOT OF, WELL, WE DON'T REALLY NEED THOSE. SO I THINK JUST A COMMENT, IF THIS COULD BE BROUGHT BACK WITH IT WITH WHAT'S NEEDED, NOT WHAT IS A 9-POINT WISH LIST, BECAUSE I THINK I HEARD THE APPLICANT AT ONE POINT SAYING, WELL, WE DON'T NEED THE LIGHTING, WE DON'T NEED THIS, WE DON'T NEED THAT. SO 9 IS A LOT TO BRING TO US. IT'S— AND ANOTHER THING I'LL SAY IS USUALLY STAFF HAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL.

THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF. WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO COME AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US ON THIS ITEM. IT WOULD MAKE ME COMFORTABLE IF WE— IF THE APPLICANT REALLY WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THESE THINGS THAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED TO PULL THIS PROJECT OFF, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ASK FOR. I MEAN, YOU HAVE AN R1 AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PRETTY MUCH STAYING WITHIN WHAT THEY WANT TO DO FOR AN R1 AND AN R2 IN THAT AREA, UNLESS I'M READING IT WRONG.

IT WOULD— I WOULD BE, AGAIN, MY COMMENT, MORE COMFORTABLE IF YOU CAME TO US WITH WHAT YOU EXACTLY NEED TO DO THIS PROJECT, NOT JUST A WISH LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE.

-- THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT. OK.

YES, PLEASE. AND AS WELL, HAVE THE LIFE SAFETY, THE FIRE MARSHAL ACTUALLY SIGN OFF ON THE ACTUAL OVERALL FLOW AND DESIGN OF WHAT'S IN THERE.

I HEAR THE DISCUSSIONS AND I THINK IT'S ALL GREAT AND, AND BELIEVE THAT IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING, BUT TO HAVE IT DOWN ON THE PAPER PREDICATED ON WHAT HE IS REQUIRING, REQUESTING, WOULD MAKE IT JUST RELAX AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SPECULATE. JUST MAKE IT GO AWAY. ALL RIGHT, SO YES, SIR, WE'VE GOT STAFF AND APPLICANT QUESTIONS. WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT 351 ACRES, IS THAT RIGHT? MM-HMM. ALL RIGHT, SO IN CONSIDERATION WHAT I'VE HEARD, THERE'S TWO OPTIONS. THERE'S THE OPTION OF CREATING THIS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE MEANS OF WHAT OUR LDR SAYS BASED OFF THE 2011 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS EMBARRASSING BUT IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

GIVEN THAT FACT, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF HOMES YOU CAN PUT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT IF WE JUST STUCK WITHIN THE RULES? NO NEGOTIATING, YOU AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS, PRIVATE OWNER.

02,100. 2,100 HOMES. THAT'S OPTION A IF YOU WALK AWAY AND WE DO EVERYTHING— Y'ALL DO EVERYTHING BY THE RULES.

WITH NEGOTIATION, WITH WHAT YOU PRESENTED WITH OPTION B, WHAT IS THAT DENSITY CURRENTLY PROPOSED? WELL, IT'S LESS THAN 6, AND THE UNIT COUNT IS 568, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

5.4 UNITS PER ACRE. LESS THAN 02,000? LESS THAN— NO, 560 UNITS. 560 UNITS. SO WE CAN DO 4 TIMES THE AMOUNT IF YOU WALK AWAY, OR WE CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU, SET RULES IN PLACE, AND KNOW THAT I HAVE 560 UNITS.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING AFTER LISTENING TODAY? CORRECT. IT'S 580 PLUS 795 DWELLING UNITS, WHICH INCLUDES THE INDEPENDENT LIVING AND THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO WELL, WHAT WE CAN DO IS— WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? WE CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BACK UP. I MEAN, I CAN ASK QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS OF THE PRESENTATION TO THE APPLICANT? IT'S BEEN PRESENTED HERE, IT'S ALL IN OUR PAPERWORK. WHY CAN'T I

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SO, CHAIRMAN, IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. OKAY, SO HERE'S WHAT I'LL— HERE'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. LET'S DO THIS. WE'LL BE TABLED AGAIN. IF YOU LIKE, WE CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BACK UP AGAIN. CAN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION IF WE'RE— IF WE JUST TABLE THE CURRENT MOTION? CLEARLY THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS THAT WANT TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE APPLICANT, RIGHT? SO I WOULD SUGGEST TABLING THE MOTION, OKAY, AND THEN OPENING UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT. OKAY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. ARE WE TABLED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE. OKAY, SAYS MADE IN SECOND. SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BACK UP? OH, VOTE ON THE TABLE. THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

WELL, YOU'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT, SO MR. BLACKARD, SORRY ABOUT THIS, WE'RE TRYING TO DO A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING HERE.

APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. ALL RIGHT, BO, ASK AWAY. I WOULD RATHER BE IN A POSITION AS A CITY TO NEGOTIATE RULES— TO NOT NEGOTIATE RULES, BUT TO SET PARAMETERS TO FOLLOW ALONG THE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER YOU AGREE TO THEM OR NOT. I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. THAN TO JUST TURN THIS THING OVER AND KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSTRAIN ANYTHING AND POSSIBLY HAVE 2,000 HOMES PUT IN THERE. SO THAT'S JUST A COMMENT OF MINE TO THINK ABOUT.

I THINK WE'RE DISCUSSING— WE'VE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING'S VALID. EVERYBODY HAS A VALID POINT. MY POINT IS THOUGH, IN LISTENING TO ALL EVERYTHING THAT THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSTRAIN AND DIRECT AND NEGOTIATE THAN TO JUST TURN IT OVER TO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS' RIGHTS. THEY BUILD 2,000 HOMES AND WE'RE STILL STUCK WITH WAY MORE ISSUES THAT WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE. THAT IS MY CONCERN. THAT IS MY STATEMENT AND SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, JEFF.

SO, I MEAN, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S— WE HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE. WE CAN DEFER, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTE WOULD BE AND HOW IT WOULD— THE MOTION WOULD BE.

BUT MY QUESTION, WHAT DOES A DEFERRAL DO TO YOU? I KNOW TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FOR YOU GUYS.

IT ALWAYS IS. WHAT WOULD A DEFERRAL DO AND YOU GUYS COME BACK IN 4 WEEKS, CHECK SOME BOXES, AND WE GO FROM THERE. I MEAN, I KNOW THESE— THE PROBLEMS THAT THESE FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT, THEY'RE— YOU CAN'T FIX ALL OF THEM. I KNOW THAT. AND THEY, YOU KNOW, I THINK COLLECTIVELY WE KNOW THAT. BUT WHAT IS— WHAT IS IT IF YOU— IF WE HAD A DEFERRAL, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO YOU? I MEAN, LIKE YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS ARE ALWAYS PUSHING.

AND LIKE I'VE NOT TOLD ANYBODY HERE, BUT WE HAVE A LOAN COMMITMENT FOR THIS PROJECT SUBJECT TO APPROVALS. SO, AND THAT GOES AWAY IN SEPTEMBER. SO I HAVE TO— THE LAST THING, IF I WAS A HOMEOWNER SAYING, OH, THE DEVELOPER'S JUST I'M NOT TRYING TO PUSH IT, BUT I DO— THERE ARE SOME DEADLINES FOR US THAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO— OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. SO— AND I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? JUST A COMMENT. SO MY INITIAL READ WHEN I LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS APPLICATION WAS THAT IT'S JUST— IT'S REALLY VAGUE. YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPT— I GET THE CONCEPT.

I GET THE IDEA. I KNOW IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY AND PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE, YOU KNOW, AT THE TOP OF THE LIST FOR ME, BUT I— IT'S JUST VAGUE AND IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT THIS COULD REALLY LOOK LIKE IN 2 YEARS OR 3 YEARS. SO SOME OF THE THINGS ON YOUR REQUEST HERE THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME THAT I THINK I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ARE THE SETBACKS. I THINK SETBACKS ARE IMPORTANT TO CREATE ANY KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL IN ANY PART OF THE ISLAND. SO THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT JUST LITTLE THINGS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING AGAIN, THIS IS 14 MINUS 2 ITEMS, BUT THEY'RE JUST LITTLE THINGS.

YOU'RE ALREADY IN THE GREEN WITH THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE. SO IT'S JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE SETBACKS. LET'S KEEP THE

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BUT JUST TAKING— RESPOND TO THAT? SURE. AT ONE TIME, I WAS ONE OF THE LARGER MASTER PLAN DEVELOPERS IN THE STATE, DOING ABOUT 5,000 LOTS A YEAR, 20-FOOT SIDE YARDS, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING. AND WHAT I LEARNED— NOW WHAT I DO IS I BUILD VILLAGES. AND WHEN I LEARN, IF I HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY ON SETBACKS AND SIDE YARDS, I CAN CREATE A REALLY UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT INSTEAD OF WHAT WE SEE IN SUBDIVISIONS. AND IF, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T PUT YOU IN A CAR AND GO SHOW YOU PRODUCT, HOW I USE THE NO SETBACK SIDE YARDS AND CREATE REALLY INTERESTING MOMENTS IN DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO CREATE. YEARS AGO WHEN GALVESTON WAS BUILT, OKAY, BACK IN THE 1800S, THERE WASN'T ANY SETBACKS, AND YOU SEE A LOT OF CREATIVITY. AND IF YOU TOOK GALVESTON'S ZONING REGULATIONS, THESE, YOU COULD NEVER REPLACE DOWNTOWN GALVESTON OR A LOT OF EVEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I— IT'S DANGEROUS, I AGREE, OKAY? I SHOULDN'T USE THE WORD DANGEROUS, BUT IT ALLOWS ME TO BE MORE CREATIVE.

IN THAT SORT OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN YOU BROUGHT UP TRAFFIC, OR YOU BROUGHT UP TRAFFIC. I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION ON TRAFFIC EXCEPT FOR THE STATE TRAFFIC STUDY. I MEAN, IF I WENT OUT AND GOT A TRAFFIC STUDY AND PAID FOR IT, IT'S GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING AS THE STATE'S TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH I'M SURE THE CITY HAS IN THEIR POSSESSION RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S DO THIS. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL IS BACK ON THE TABLE, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. AND I'LL START, AND I'LL TRY AND MAKE IT QUICK.

IS, YES, THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS HERE. I WILL TELL YOU I DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUR OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING WITH THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE HE CAN GO AWAY. HE'S CLEARLY TOLD US THAT, AND WE COULD BE DEALING WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FOR THESE GUYS, AND IT'S NOT JUST HIM, IT'S ALL OF THEM. WE CAN VOTE TO DEFER, WHICH YOU— HE OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T WANT, OR WE CAN GO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE MOTION AND DO WHAT REALLY WHAT OUR TASK IS, IS TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. AND IF THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY, WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC REASON TO DENY IT.

BUT I THINK WHAT OUR JOB IS, IS TO SEND IT UP THE FLAGPOLE AND GO, HEY, HERE'S OUR CONCERNS, HERE'S, HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THE DEFERRAL MOTION. NEXT.

AS FAR AS DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY I LIKE THE CONCEPT HERE EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME ISSUES AND OBVIOUSLY THE AREA OF THE ISLAND IT'S ON IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT THE MOST IDEAL, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU FIND THIS SORT OF LAND? I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT THAT IN GALVESTON, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THESE RULES AND THE ZONING AND THE LDRS THAT WE HAVE, GALVESTON TODAY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BUILT UNDER THESE RULES, RIGHT? I THINK THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE— EVERYBODY WHO IS IN THIS ROOM, EVERYBODY ON THIS ISLAND, AT ONE POINT YOUR HOME WAS A CONCERN TO YOUR NEIGHBOR. YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMETHING WAS BUILT, IT WAS A CONCERN. THAT SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF VAGUENESS AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I STILL HAVE ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GO AND BUILD 2,000 HOMES AND THERE'S NOTHING ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM CAN DO ABOUT IT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE REAL CAREFUL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SCARING PEOPLE AWAY WHEN THEY WANT TO COME AND MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS OUR SHOT. SO, ALL RIGHT, THANKS, TOM. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM.

OH, GO AHEAD, JOHN. OKAY, I AGREE WITH RUSTY. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE DEFER THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL WE'RE DOING IS KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN A TON OF INFORMATION AND INPUT,

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BUT WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOBS, DAN. WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? YOUR JOB? WELL, COME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. I'M NOT SAYING IF WE DENY IT. I'M SAYING THAT THE CHOICE IS THAT PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED.

AND FROM DAY ONE, WHEN I SAW HIS PLAN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TOTALLY UNIQUE FOR THIS AREA, IT'S BETTER THAN JUST ANOTHER SUBDIVISION, ESPECIALLY OF 02,000 HOMES. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY ACRES ARE R-1, HOW MANY ACRES ARE R-2, BECAUSE I WAS DOING THE MATH TRYING TO SEE WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS, AND SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, MADE THE POINT AND GOT TO THE NUMBER. SO, I MEAN, I'M— OKAY. YEAH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO DEFER? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL? THOSE OPPOSED? SO THE MOTION TO DEFER IS PASSED. SO— AND WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SPECIFIC ON THIS. SO WE'RE DOING THE DEFERRAL TILL APRIL 7TH. WE'RE LOOKING FOR RESPONSES REGARDING HEIGHT, DRAINAGE, LIGHTING. LIGHTING.

ENVIRONMENTAL. ENVIRONMENTAL.

AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE TOO.

TRAFFIC. WELL, YEAH. OKAY, SO IT'S HEIGHT, DRAINAGE. OH, CAN I AMEND THAT TO REMOVE THE TRAFFIC? OKAY, SO HEIGHT, DRAINAGE, LIGHTING, ENVIRONMENT. ENVIRONMENT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S DONE. SO WE HAVE A DEFERRAL TILL APRIL 7TH. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL BE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.