[3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (1 Hour)]

ITEM THREE A, PLEASE. ITEM THREE, A CLARIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. BEAU. USUALLY WE DO YOU LESS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST OR LAST? LAST? YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING UP? ALL RIGHT.

DON'T WANT TO CHANGE OUR PATTERNS HERE. VERY GOOD.

DAVID. NO. NOTHING, SIR. BOB, I'VE GOT A FEW.

FIRST IS 11 G. THE BELT FILTER PRESS. IT'S SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING.

I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANY SUCH THING, BUT IT'S A BIG TICKET ITEM.

AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING. AND SERVICES AS I UNDERSTAND THREE WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

YES, SIR. MOVES AROUND TO ALL OF THEM. YES. SO THAT'S A HUGE BIG TICKET ITEM.

OVER $1 MILLION. I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW DOES THE ROI WORK ON THAT? AND HOW IS THAT MORE EFFICIENT AND THAN THAN I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU HAUL IT OTHERWISE.

OKAY. SO ROBERT WINKLER, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE, SIR, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.

THANK YOU. SO THE BELT FILTER PRESS. YES, IT'S GOING TO BE A MOBILE UNIT THAT'S GOING TO BE INITIALLY SITED AT THE MAIN TREATMENT PLANT WHILE WE GO AHEAD AND REDO THE EXISTING BIOSOLIDS BUILDING. SO THIS IS KIND OF AN ADVANCED PURCHASE.

IT'S ABOUT A 12 MONTH OR SORRY. YEAH, 12 MONTH LEAD TIME.

AND YES, IT IS A BIG TICKET ITEM. SO ULTIMATELY ONCE WE GET THIS IN PLACE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE OPERATION AT THE MAIN TREATMENT PLANT WHILE THIS MOVES FORWARD. AND THEN ONCE IT'S DONE, WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THIS TO OTHER LOCATIONS AND NOT HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND HAUL WASTE FROM AIRPORT BACK TO THE MAIN AND SAVING US OUR HAULING COSTS. SO BASICALLY, WE'LL JUST BE ABLE TO HOOK UP OUR OUR SEMI TRUCK OR TRACTOR AND HAUL IT OUT TO THAT SITE.

SO YOU WOULD ORDINARILY PUMP IT, PUMP IT ONTO A TANKER TRUCK AND THEN TAKE IT OVER TO THE SOLIDS.

YES. YEAH. WE TAKE ALL THE SOLIDS FROM THE OTHER PLANTS, PUT THEM INTO A TRUCK, BRING THEM OVER TO MAIN, AND THEN THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT. NOW THAT'S HOW WE DO IT NOW. YEAH. SO IT'S GOING TO BE LESS EXPENSIVE IN THE LONG RUN.

MORE EFFICIENT IS THAT IS THAT BIG PIECE OF MACHINERY REQUIRE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE OR WHAT IS IT.

SO WE ACTUALLY WENT FOR AN INITIAL TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, WHICH IS INCLUDED WITH THIS BID.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN JUST CONTINUE THAT UPKEEP MOVING FORWARD.

IT OPERATES IN ADVERSE CONDITIONS, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THESE ARE DESIGNED TO GO AHEAD AND RUN 15 OR 30 YEARS.

SO I MEAN 25 IS GETTING TO THE END OF LIFE. WE'VE GOT THESE EXISTING PROCESSES AT THE SITE.

SO WHAT YOU WIND UP WITH IS A LITTLE DRY CAKE OF SOMETHING DRY.

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NICE. NICE. THAT'S GREAT. EVERYBODY GOT THEIR BREAKFAST.

DOES THAT JUST GO BACK TO THE WASTE TREATMENT PLAN? SO NO, THE CAKE ITSELF IS HAULED OFF TO THE LANDFILL.

LANDFILL? OH, IT'S NOT COMPOSTABLE OR ANYTHING.

THERE'S DEBATES WHETHER YOU CAN. YOU CAN APPLY THIS IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT IN ARSENIC BECOMES AN ISSUE.

PUTTING THAT ON THE LAND. SO IT DEPENDS. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. BUT THERE'S SPECIFIC LANDFILLS WHERE YOU TAKE IT.

NOT JUST ANY LANDFILL. THERE'S SPECIFIC LEVELS.

OH OKAY. YEAH. WE CAN'T JUST PUT IT IN OUR BACKYARD. YEAH.

THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR THAT ISSUE. I GOT SOME ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT ON THAT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY COOL.

I ACTUALLY LOOKED UP THAT MACHINE. OKAY. AND IT REMINDED ME THE PROCESS.

SMALL SCALE OF MUD PIES THAT WE USED TO BUILD IN THE DRY OUT.

SO THE WATER IS SEPARATED. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN I, WHEN I READ THAT, BUT.

YEAH. AWESOME. FIRST ITEM. WE'RE ALREADY IN A DEEP POOP HERE.

WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POOP. WE THOUGHT IT WAS HIGH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. ROB.

BOB. GO AHEAD. 11 L THE STREET PAINTING. MY QUESTION WAS ON THAT IS THERE'S BEEN SOME HOSTILITY, SOME STATE HOSTILITY TOWARDS PAINTING STREETS LATELY.

AND MY QUESTION WAS, ARE WE GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR DOING THAT? NO. WE'VE ASKED TEXTILE. WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THEM. THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S ON A CLOSED STREET.

WHEN THEY DO IT, AND IT USUALLY COMES RIGHT BACK UP.

SO BEFORE THE STREET OPENS. SO I THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR TEXDOT, BUT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM FOR AN OPINION AS WELL.

SO WHEN I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL TODAY, PLEASE MAKE IT SUBJECT TO TEXDOT REPLY TO US.

BOB, THAT PARTICULAR REQUEST HAS BEEN EVERY YEAR WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT YEAR.

YES, THEY'VE DONE THIS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE DID IT.

THE REASON I'M ASKING. YEAH, BUT ISN'T THIS DONE IN CHALK? YEAH. IT COMES. IT'S NOT A PERMANENT MARKER. IT'S NOT A.

THAT'S WHY I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. BUT JUST TO COVER IT, WE'VE ASKED. WE'RE ON THE ADC AND IT'S BASICALLY DONE BY THE END OF THE PEOPLE WALK OVER ENOUGH WHERE IT DOESN'T. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S. YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT. YEAH I DO. THAT'S ALL ON THAT ONE.

11 N THE GDP MEMBERSHIP. YES, SIR. IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS THE GDP SHALL PRESENT TO THE IDC WRITTEN REPORT DESCRIBING THE SERVICES THE GDP HAS PERFORMED ON BEHALF OF THE IDC. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD GET A IF THE COUNCIL COULD GET A COPY OF THAT JUST SO WE CAN STAY UP TO SPEED ON ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES, I GUESS, AND WHAT THE GDP IS DOING.

I HEARD PART OF THAT. MICHELLE. HEY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR WITH THE CITY. REPEAT THE VERY LAST PART I WAS REFERRING TO THE EACH QUARTER GDP SHALL PRESENT TO THE IDC WRITTEN REPORTS DESCRIBING THE SERVICES. THE GDP IS PERFORMED ON BEHALF OF THE IDC.

AND YOU WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO HAVE A COPY OF THAT? YEAH. I MEAN, JUST JUST TO BE UP TO SPEED ON WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WISE WITH IDC AND THE GDP. I THINK THAT'S VERY EASILY ACCOMPLISHED.

WE CAN DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE? THAT'S ALL DISTRIBUTED ALL OVER COUNCIL. ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. GO RIGHT AHEAD. THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THAT ONE. BUT I GOT ANOTHER ONE.

£0.11 DIDN'T HAVE A STAFF REPORT ATTACHED THAT I COULD FIND.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE. FOR THE FIREWALL.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. SO THERE IS A STAFF REPORT.

IT'S PROBABLY JUST ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE PORTAL.

WE DON'T WE TRADITIONALLY DON'T DISCLOSE PUBLICLY WHAT WE'RE BUYING FROM AN IT PERSPECTIVE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

SO THERE IS A STAFF REPORT. OUR FIREWALLS ARE ABOUT TEN YEARS OLD AND THEY'RE DUE FOR REPLACEMENT.

IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT I CAN. THAT'S ALL I NEED.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU NEED, POPE IS HAPPY TO SEND IT TO YOU. ABSOLUTELY. AND I CAN.

YEAH, JUST SEND IT THAT WAY. BUT JUST KNOW THAT FOR SECURITY PURPOSES, DON'T SHARE IT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO. THAT'S IT.

THANKS. THANKS. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE IS 11 BB AND 11 CC.

THIS IS REGARDING THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.

BRANDON. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. BRANDON COOK, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

YEAH. SO THIS DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE PROJECT IS REALLY PART OF THE LARGER GRANT PERFORMANCE TREND THAT I'VE READ COUNCIL ON A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, WHERE WE'VE SECURED ABOUT $360 MILLION OVER THE LAST DECADE WORTH FEDERAL GRANTS, AND 60 MILLION OF THAT HAS COME IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE, WITH NO LOCAL PROPERTY TAX REQUIRED ON THAT. WHICH KIND OF RELIEVES, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN OFF OF OUR, OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS A BIG PIECE OF THAT 60 MILLION.

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IT'S $24 MILLION FTA GRANT FOR THE DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE PROJECT.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BUILD ON THE PILOT PROJECT THAT WE DID DOWNTOWN ON 23RD STREET, FROM ABOUT CHURCH STREET TO HARBORSIDE.

AND REALLY, WE'VE GOT ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT THEMES ON THAT PROJECT.

IT'S GOING TO BE SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR THEME.

WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE ADA ACCESSIBILITY THERE.

HARDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SIDEWALKS. AND MOBILITY.

CONNECTION, MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY IS ANOTHER BIG THEME ON THAT.

WE'LL HAVE MULTIMODAL CONNECTIONS. WE HAVE TROLLEY TRACKS WHICH REPAIRS IN THEIR ON 20TH AND STRAND THAT WENT UNDERWATER DURING HURRICANE IKE AND HAVE BEEN INOPERABLE SINCE THEN. SO WE SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESTORE RAIL SERVICE TO UTMB.

WITH THIS PROJECT. ALSO, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC REALM AND PLACEMAKING ASPECT TO IT WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING ON LANDSCAPING, SHADE STRUCTURES, SITE FURNISHINGS AND SPECIAL EVENT LIGHTING AND POWER CONNECTIONS.

FOR A LOT OF THE VENDORS DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS.

ANOTHER BIG THEME IS GOING TO BE RESILIENCE AND QUALITY OF LIFE DOWNTOWN.

WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE MINOR DRAINAGE FEATURES LIKE BIOSWALES RAIN GARDENS AND WAKE BREAKS IN FRONT OF BUSINESSES TO KEEP THE WAKES FROM SPLASHING INTO THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS AND ALSO JUST OVERALL DOWNTOWN BEAUTIFICATION, ECONOMIC VITALITY.

WE'VE SEEN AS WE PUT PUBLIC DOLLARS INTO A LOT OF THESE YOU KNOW, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN CERTAIN AREAS AND CERTAIN TARGETED AREAS.

WE'VE SEEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR MONEY FOLLOW WITH IT.

WE SAW THAT DIRECTLY WITH WEST MARKET STREET THERE FROM ABOUT 25TH TO 29TH STREET OR SO.

AS SOON AS WE, YOU KNOW, INVESTED A LOT OF PUBLIC SECTOR MONEY IN THERE, WE SAW A LOT OF BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, POPPING UP COFFEE SHOPS, TEA SHOPS NOW CRAFT COCKTAIL BARS, WHAT HAVE YOU.

THE LIST GOES ON. I'VE BEEN THERE. YEAH, I'VE SEEN YOU THERE.

YEAH, YEAH. SO BUT THE STEP TODAY, REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FTA REQUIRES US TO GO THROUGH AN ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE AND CULTURAL RESOURCES CLEARANCE PRIOR TO EVEN TAPPING THIS MONEY FOR ANY TYPE OF DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION ASPECTS.

IT'S A MANDATORY PREREQUISITE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THIS MONEY.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY. SO WE STRUCTURED THE CONTRACT KIND OF IN A PHASE AND A TASK ORDER BASIS, WHERE THE INITIAL AND THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO APPROVE EACH PHASE GOING FORWARD.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY KIND OF BLANKET APPROVALS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO FOR CONTROL, TRANSPARENCY AND THEN ALSO GIVE US, YOU KNOW, STOP POINTS DURING THE PROJECT IN CASE WE NEED TO REROUTE AND MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS. SO RIGHT NOW AA ON THE AGENDA IS ACTUALLY THE PROJECT FRAMEWORK.

THAT'S OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE DESIGN TEAM.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS ESTABLISHES THE OVERALL PROJECT SCOPE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

YOU SAID 11 AA, BB AND CC, BB, CC, BB IS THE BB AND CC YEAH, BB IS YEAH.

BB IS THE OVERALL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AND THE PROJECT SCOPE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND FOR.

BUT FOR APPROVAL TODAY, WHAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING TODAY IS ACTUALLY TASK ORDER A UNDER THAT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, IT'S GOING TO BE $248,000 AND SOME CHANGE IN ORDER FOR US TO PURSUE THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND CULTURAL CLEARANCES AND GO AHEAD AND UNLOCK THAT $24 MILLION WORTH OF THE FTA FUNDS. AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT TO BE FUNDED OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN PARKING MANAGEMENT FUND.

I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, BUT GO AHEAD. AND SO YOU SAID THAT I THINK I HEARD THAT THE TROLLEY WAS GOING TO BE EXTENDED TO UTAB, WHERE IT HISTORICALLY WAS, AND THEN THAT WENT AWAY FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

YEAH. THE SWITCH IS BROKEN THERE ON 20TH AND STRAND.

AND SO SO WE DO HAVE THAT IN OUR PROJECT SCOPE RIGHT NOW AND TO DO AN ASSESSMENT ON THERE AND A REPAIR OF THAT AS PART OF THE BIDDING PROCESS.

AND THAT SHOULD ALLOW US TO OPEN UP RAIL SERVICE BACK TO UTM BE PROVIDED.

THERE'S NO OTHER KIND OF ISSUES DOWN LINE. UTM B HAVE HAVE A STAKE IN THAT.

NO, NOT AT THIS POINT. THIS IS ALL FEDERAL MONEY THAT'S COMING IN, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE COORDINATING WITH THEM, I GUESS ON THIS WE WILL BE AS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THIS PROJECT, I THINK, HAS ALSO BEEN KNOWN AS A LIVABLE COMMUNITIES PROJECT.

THAT IS CORRECT. SEVERAL OF IN THE PAST. YES.

THAT'S HOW THIS INITIAL PROJECT STARTED. THERE WAS ABOUT $3 MILLION SITTING IN A LIVABLE COMMUNITIES GRANT LEFT OVER AND HCRC, AND THEY ASKED ABOUT THE STATUS OF IT. AND I SAID, WITH ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND FEDERAL RED TAPE, $3 MILLION IS NOT EVEN WORTH GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.

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WE JUST SPENT $3 MILLION ON ONE STREET DOWNTOWN.

OF LOCAL MONEY THAT DOESN'T HAVE BUY AMERICAN CLAUSES AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN IT.

IT JUST IS NOT WORTH OUR TIME OR EFFORT. WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH ENOUGH THINGS GOING ON.

AND SO THEY SAID, WELL, LET US SEE YOUR BIDS.

AND THEN WE STARTED HAVING THAT BACK AND FORTH AND SHOWING THEM THE IMPROVEMENTS ON GOOGLE STREET VIEW.

AND THEY SAID, WHAT ABOUT 24 MILLION? WILL THAT GET IT? THAT'LL THAT'LL MAKE IT WORTH OUR WHILE. YES.

WELL SO THE 24 MILLION IS COMMITTED AND THAT'S THAT'S FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

IT HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM TO THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION.

SO IT'S COMMITTED. IT'S IN THERE. IT'S GOT OUR NAME ON IT.

WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE BEFORE WE CAN TAP IT. AND THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START HERE.

SO ONE OF THE SCHEDULES SAID WE START IN MARCH THIS YEAR.

THAT'S THE KICKOFF ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF IT.

WE WILL NOT. WE'RE PLANNING TO GET THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.

IF ALL THE STARS ALIGN, THEN WE'LL GET THROUGH IT, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO START ON THE DESIGN PROCESS UTILIZING THE FEDERAL DOLLARS.

OKAY. AND THE END DATE, EVERYTHING IS DONE. YOU WALK AWAY.

ONE SCHEDULE SAID NOVEMBER 2031, AND THE SPREADSHEET SCHEDULE SAID JUNE 2030.

I'M JUST WONDERING, THE OTHER ONE IS THE GRANT CLOSEOUT PERIOD ON THE BACK END.

OH, THE NOVEMBER. YEAH, THE 31 IS THE GRANT CLOSEOUT.

THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE IN THE 2030 TIME FRAME.

OKAY. AND PART OF THIS PROCESS, I'M ASSUMING, IS GOING TO, IS GOING TO INCLUDE SOME A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THAT IS. YES, YES. ACTUALLY I JUST SAW MIKE DALEY WALKED IN.

HE WAS ON OUR STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE IN 2018 WHEN WE DID THE PILOT ON, ON 23RD STREET.

AND I JUST LOOKED AT HIM AND SAID, OH, HOW FORTUITOUS THAT YOU'RE HERE, MIKE, BECAUSE I MAY NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS DOWNTOWN PROJECT, BUT YEAH, WE'LL ENROLL. A LOT OF THE DOWNTOWN IS HERE ALSO FROM DOWNTOWN.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO TREY CLICK ABOUT THAT A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO WHEN I WALKED INTO HIM. YOU'RE PRETTY PLUGGED IN. SO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PART.

WHEN DOES THAT IN THE SCHEDULE? THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

IT WILL BE WHEN WHENEVER WE CAN START THE DESIGN PROCESS.

IF WE WANT TO USE FEDERAL MONEY, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE A WAY.

I NEED TO TALK TO THE PROJECT TEAM ABOUT IT ONCE WE HAVE OUR INITIAL KICKOFF MEETING.

BUT AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE SCHEDULE THIS WEEKEND, I SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ABOUT $33,000 OR SO THAT'S IN THERE FOR THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. AND IF WE WANTED TO FUND THAT LOCALLY WITH DOWNTOWN PARKING MONEY, WE COULD PROBABLY AMEND THIS CONTRACT AND USE TO GET THE STAKEHOLDER MEETING OFF THE GROUND AND PROBABLY PUSH THAT SCHEDULE UP A LITTLE BIT OR EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THE OF THE DOWNTOWN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

I GUESS IF YOU FUNDED IT WITH DOWNTOWN PARKING FEES.

CORRECT. IT'S THERE IS IT SAYS IN THE, IN THE STAFF REPORT NO TRADITIONAL LOCAL CASH MATCH REQUIREMENT EXCEPT FOR THE $248,000 FOR THAT.

THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST TO KEEP THAT WORK. YEAH.

THAT'S THAT'S NO CASH MATCH REQUIREMENT. THAT'S JUST ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE AND GRANT COMPLIANCE THAT WE HAVE TO.

OH OKAY. YEAH. IT'S A REALLY STAFF SUPPLEMENTATION SERVICES.

REALLY. OKAY. I THINK I'LL JUST SAY THAT THAT INITIAL INVESTMENT YOU MADE IN THOSE PILOT PROJECTS IS CLEARLY PAID OFF. YES.

AND THIS IS WHY WE DO THE PILOT PROJECT. IT'S ACTUALLY WHY WE'RE DOING THE BIKE LANE ON THE SEAWALL RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE DOING A PILOT AS PART OF THAT MILL AND OVERLAY, BECAUSE ONCE YOU YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE GROUND AND YOU CAN IT'S A LOT EASIER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS USING GOOGLE STREET VIEW THAN GO OVER THERE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WALK THEM THROUGH THE OH, THIS IS GREAT.

YEAH. ONLY BRINGS MORE DOLLARS THAN CONCEPT. YEAH.

I JUST GOT TO COMMEND THE CITY FOR AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU ALL GET IN GRANTS.

IT'S JUST AMAZING. IT'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE CITY BUDGET AND TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE.

I THINK IT'S KUDOS TO TO ALL THAT WORK YOU DO TO GET THOSE GRANTS.

YEAH, DEFINITELY A TEAM EFFORT. YEAH. IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE, BOB MARIE? SO CAN THIS MONEY IS JUST RESTRICTED TO DOWNTOWN? YES. IN THE IN THE TIP OR IN THE FTA GRANT THAT CAME OVER AND IN THE TIP.

IT'S 20TH TO 26TH STREET, AND IT'S HARBORSIDE TO CHURCH.

JUST SOUTH OF HARBORSIDE IS HOW WE WE DRAFTED THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET TEXDOT APPROVALS INVOLVED, BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST ADD MORE DELAY AND MORE TIME TO THE PROJECT.

WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THE 3 MILLION THAT YOU SAID, IT WASN'T WORTH YOUR WHILE.

SO WE COULDN'T HAVE USED THAT FOR LIKE 45TH STREET OR OTHER CORRIDORS THAT ARE THREE MILLIONS, PART OF THE 24 MILLION. YEAH, 3 MILLION IS PART OF THE 24 MILLION.

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I MEAN, DO WE LOOK AT GOING AFTER THESE TYPES OF GRANTS FOR ANY AREA THAN JUST DOWNTOWN? WELL, WAS SO ON THE 100% SUPPORT DOWNTOWN. BUT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPING AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ALL THE MONEY SIMPLY GOES. SINCE THIS WAS FLEXED THROUGH THE FTA.

THIS WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE. IT HAS TO BE WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF TRANSIT STOPS LIKE 14TH STREET.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE GETTING THE TROLLEY BACK AND TRANSIT THROUGH HIS TRANSIT ON 14TH STREET.

YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S ALSO ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.

WE HAVE A BIG MOBILITY COMPONENT OF THAT PLAN.

AND IT'LL IDENTIFY DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND STUFF THAT THAT THE CITY STAFF WILL PURSUE GOING OUT INTO THE FUTURE AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU KNOW, WE REALLY HIGHLIGHTED THAT PORTION OF IT BECAUSE WE HAVE PLANS FOR A LOT OF THE OTHER GRANTS AS FAR AS DRAINAGE, WATER, WASTEWATER AND EVERYTHING. THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT WE NEED TO GET ALL THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

AND BY I'M JUST TALKING, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPING CORRIDORS, WHICH IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR CITY, BUT YET THEY SEEM TO GO IGNORED. YEAH. YEAH. AND THIS ONE WAS JUST ALREADY SITTING IN THERE UNDER THAT 3 MILLION DOWNTOWN LIVABLE COMMUNITIES.

AND SO IT WAS EASY FOR HER TO AMEND THAT CLOSES SOMETIME MID FEBRUARY, I THINK, FOR MORE LIVABLE COMMUNITY MONIES. WELL, THERE'S ONE TOMORROW FOR TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON PUTTING OUR APPLICATION IN TOMORROW FOR.

VERY GOOD. I WANT TO COMMEND I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON BOB'S THOUGHT.

I WANT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS EMPHASIS ON DOWNTOWN AND FOLLOWING UP.

THIS IS KIND OF, IN MY MIND, A CONTINUATION OF THE LIVABLE COMMUNITIES MONIES THAT WE PUT INITIALLY DOWN THERE TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR DOWNTOWN. WE DO HAVE OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY THAT COULD EXPERIENCE OR WOULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THIS, BUT BEING FOCUSED IN THIS MONEY FOR DOWNTOWN, THIS IS A MAJOR SHOT IN THE ARM.

COUPLE OF THOUGHTS THOUGH, ON THAT. FIRST OF ALL, THE PORT IS WORKING ON A MOBILITY STUDY.

IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THAT IN HERE IN THE AGENDA A LITTLE LATER CONCERNING MOBILITY ISSUES DOWNTOWN.

PERSONALLY, BRANDON, IT'D PROBABLY BE GOOD TO KIND OF TOUCH BASE WITH WHERE THEY ARE ON THEIR MOBILITY STUDIES AND THINGS AND THEIR CONCERNS THERE BECAUSE IT INVOLVES DOWNTOWN IN A WAY, AND IT MAY DOVETAIL WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MAY BE PLANNING DOWNTOWN.

SO I WOULD GET KIND OF TOUCH BASE WITH ROBB AND I MET WITH JEFFREY THOMAS LAST WEEK, AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON THEIR MOBILITY STUDY, AND HE WAS PLANNING TO SEND OVER.

WE SHARED A COPY OF OUR SCOPE AND THE COMP PLAN WITH HIM.

OKAY. AND THEN HE'S GOING TO SHARE A COPY OF THE RFP, I BELIEVE, AFTER AFTER HIS REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE LOOKS AT IT, AND WE'LL GIVE HIM FEEDBACK ON IT BEFORE THEY PUSH THAT OUT.

WONDERFUL. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. THE OTHER THING IS THIS HAS BEEN A PET PEEVE OF MINE, BUT THE GASLIGHTS, THEY'RE PART OF THIS PROJECT. OH THANK GOODNESS, BUT NOT MORE GAS LIGHTS.

NO, WE NEED TO GO TO ELECTRIC. WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE GASLIGHTS ELECTRIC.

NO, EVERYBODY THINKS THEY'RE GREAT, BUT THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT. THEY ARE COSTING A FORTUNE TO BE DOWNTOWN.

AND I GOT A CALL THE OTHER DAY, AND THERE'S. I THINK I'M RIGHT.

THEY SAID THERE'S 40 LIGHTS OUT DOWN, 48 DOWN THERE.

48 LIGHTS OUT. AND WE CAN'T GET PARTS FOR THEM.

AND THE WIND BLOWS THEM OUT AS SOON AS WE GET THEM LIT. AND WE ALSO HAD MANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE THE CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS LOOKING VERY SHABBY AND SO FORTH. THOSE AREN'T OURS, BUT MAYBE WE CAN COORDINATE SOME OF THESE FUNDS AND TO MAKING A BETTER PRESENTATION. YEAH, I THINK PART OF I THINK WHAT TREY WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS TO REDO ALL THE, THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTING ASPECTS OF IT. I THINK THERE'S A HOLE IN THERE.

I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT APPROACH THAT DOWNTOWN'S LOOKING AT FOR FUTURE CHRISTMASES THAT DON'T INVOLVE NECESSARILY THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, BUT WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. BUT THE GAS LIGHTS THAT IS INVOLVED HERE, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING FROM GAS TO ELECTRIC.

YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK GOODNESS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD.

BOB. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THIS MONEY IS IT WHEN THIS MONEY IS RELEASED, WHEN IT'S ALL AVAILABLE? I GUESS IT WOULD BE AFTER THERE WAS ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.

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COULD WE SPEND MONEY AND THEN GET REIMBURSED IF WE NEEDED TO MOVE UP SOMETHING ON THE SCHEDULE? FOR INSTANCE, THESE THESE LIGHTS, THESE GAS LIGHTS COULD COULD WE GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE GAS LIGHTS CHANGED OVER TO ELECTRIC AND THEN GET REIMBURSED FROM THE GRANT? I THINK IT'S ALL REIMBURSABLE ISN'T IT? AS LONG AS WE GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRE-CLEARANCE.

I CAN TALK TO THE DESIGN TEAM AND WE'LL PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

YEAH. THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS PRIORITIZING VERY LONG LEAD TIMES ON THAT BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO INVOLVE CENTER POINT.

AND SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT'LL BE EARLY ON IN THE STAGES ANYWAY, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET ON THE GROUND ORDERED EARLY, IT TAKES FOREVER. THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO IS WHAT CAN WE DO FIRST.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO PRIORITIZE. AND THAT GAS LICENSE SEEMS TO ME TO BE A HIGH PRIORITY.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THE OTHER SUCCESS STORY. EVERYBODY LOVES THE AWNING AND THE LIGHTS.

BUT ARE THOSE WAVE BREAKS WE PUT? THOSE THINGS HAVE FUNCTIONED FLAWLESSLY.

OH, NICE. THAT HAS BEEN. WE HAVE GOTTEN NOTHING BUT COMPLIMENTS ON THOSE.

AND THEN ON SUNNY DAYS, THERE'S PEOPLE SITTING ON THEM AND ENJOYING THEM.

BUT AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE. BUT THEY HAVE SAVED THOSE BUSINESSES PROBABLY 4 OR 5 TIMES SINCE WE PUT THEM IN.

OH YEAH, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE DOWNTOWN.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT WAS A BIG QUESTION FROM THE FTA.

WHAT IS AWAKE BREAK. YOU KNOW, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

WE'RE VENICE BABY SKATEBOARD DETERRENCE ON THERE.

RIGHT. WE DO. YES, SIR. THEY HAVE CROWNS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT, BOB? OKAY, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

I WANT TO FOLLOW HIM ON KUDOS AS WELL. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING WEST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER FROM 25 TO 26.

SO AS PART OF DOWNTOWN. YEAH, WE DELIBERATELY YEAH.

BECAUSE THAT AREA AND LIKE I SAID, IT GOES TOWARD THE ECONOMIC VITALITY.

YOU START THROWING MONEY OUT THERE AND IMPROVING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

THEN PRIVATE SECTOR MONEY HOPEFULLY FOLLOWS IN THIS CASE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU BRANDON. APPRECIATE IT BOB.

ANYTHING ELSE WILL BE THE MARDI GRAS. CONTRACT.

$12 BILLION CONTRACT. YES. MORNING, DAVID.

MIKE, DID YOU WANT TO COME UP ALSO? SURE, YES.

DAVID HAD A MIKE. COME ON UP AND HAVE A SEAT.

DAVID HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY. HE'S NOT GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT. SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING THIS? IF WE CAN GET THEM ALL CLEARED THIS MORNING, THAT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL. OKAY.

SORRY TO HEAR THAT BREAKING BREAD WITH YOU GUYS TODAY, AREN'T I? YEAH. I DON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS. IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

GENTLEMEN. MIKE CARUSO PURCHASING MANAGER, AS SEEN IN THE POST OFFICE PICTURES.

CITY COUNCIL. HE ONLY KNOWS THAT BECAUSE HE WAS CHECKING TO SEE IF I DO.

I DO? YEAH, HE CHECKED THE PHILADELPHIA. THEY UPDATE ALL THE NEW PICTURES.

I'LL CHECK THE OBITS TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT ROBB.

YOU HAD QUESTIONS? YEAH. FIRST OF ALL THIS PROPOSED CONTRACT WOULD LOCK US IN FOR FIVE YEARS ON THE ON THE $3 TICKET FEE.

IS THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, FOR FIVE YEARS IF COUNCIL WOULD NOT SEE THIS AGAIN FOR FIVE YEARS.

THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. AND IT'S ACTUALLY A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH CITY MANAGER.

HAS AUTHORITY TO APPROVE YEARS FOUR AND FIVE.

PAST. HE'S ALWAYS COME BEFORE YOU ALL. ALWAYS BRING IT TO YOU GUYS.

WHAT THE. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ON COUNCIL. WHAT IS WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THE PAST ON IN THIS THIS TERM? IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS. IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS IN THE PAST.

YES. YEAH. AND SO THAT THAT FEE THAT COMES TO THE CITY REMAINS CONSTANT THROUGHOUT THAT FIVE YEARS.

THAT $3 TICKET FEE DEPENDING ON ATTENDANCE. YES.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. THE THING WILL REMAIN CONSTANT.

IS THE $100,000 CHECK FROM THE $3 FEE IS OBVIOUSLY GEARED TOWARDS HOW MANY ATTENDEES COME THROUGH THAT GATE.

IN THE PAST, IT WAS $1. RIGHT. THE PROJECTIONS THAT YOU GAVE.

REGRESSIVE PROJECTIONS AND PROJECTIONS LOOK UP HERE APPEAR TO INDICATE THAT OF THAT $500,000 BUDGET, WE CAN EXPECT TO GET ABOUT HALF OF THAT BACK.

YES, SIR. HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE A GRAPH THAT WE PUT ON PUT ON THE STAFF REPORT, AND IT SHOWS ALL THE WAY SINCE 2005 TO OUR CURRENT YEAR.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE COSTS HAVE GONE UP FOR MARDI GRAS.

AS FOR ALL EVENTS, BECAUSE THESE PROTECTION, PUBLIC WORKS, LABOR, EVERYTHING INVOLVED.

YEAH. THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS CONTRACT IS, IS WE HAVE THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT Y'ALL JUST HAS TO PAY US THE MONEY.

THE $100,000 AS WELL AS THE $3 HEAD FEE. AND THAT BRINGS THE COST TO THE CITY BALANCE AND DOWN DRAMATICALLY.

YEAH. SO LET'S.

TALK ABOUT THE SECONDARY EVENT AREA. IS THAT.

EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. SO THE PROMOTER HAS THE OPTION OF UTILIZING A SECONDARY AREA AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO IF HE WANTS TO EXPAND HIS EVENT.

WE'VE NEVER DONE SO IN THE PAST. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN INTEREST IN DOING IT NOW, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT OPTION IN THERE.

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IS THAT SUBJECT TO, I GUESS, DEMAND ON THE ON THE FIRST WEEKEND OR SOMETHING? YES. WELL, YOUR FOOTPRINT INCREASING THE FOOTPRINT TO A SECOND VENUE AREA BUT CUSTOMARY.

WE'VE KEPT THE SAME FOOTPRINT FOR DECADES. YEAH.

SO IS THAT WHY IS THAT IN THERE THEN? HAS THERE BEEN SOME NEED FOR THAT? THAT WAS NEGOTIATED BY THE CITY MANAGER MANY DECADES AGO.

SO IT'S ALWAYS REMAINED IN THERE, JUST THE WORDING JUST IN CASE.

IT'S JUST IN CASE. A GOOD EXAMPLE IS LONE STAR RALLY. LONE STAR RALLY HAS EXCEEDED ITS FOOTPRINT.

SO THEY PICKED UP. IF WE EXPANDED THE FOOTPRINT, I'D BRING IT BACK TO YOU. AND I THINK IF THAT WAS THE CASE IN MARDI GRAS, I'D GOTTEN THAT BIG. WE'D ALL BE DANCING THE HAPPY DANCE AT THAT POINT, SO IT'D BE EASY TO WORK ON.

WILL YOU WEAR A TUTU? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IF IT GETS THAT BIG, I WOULD BE SURE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST AFTER WE GET TO BY THAT? I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION UNDER NUMBER SEVEN VENDORS.

DOES THE PROMOTER WILL GIVE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL TO ANY OPERATING STRAND MERCHANT FOR ANY AVAILABLE BOOTH SPACE UP TO 30 DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT? SO DOES THE DOES THE ORGANIZER CHARGE THE MERCHANT THE SAME AS THEY WOULD CHARGE ANYBODY ELSE? YES, THAT'S BETWEEN HIMSELF AND THE MERCHANT.

BUT I HAVE MIKE COMING FORWARD HERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE, EXCUSE ME, WE HAVE MIKE DEAN, WHO'S INVOLVED WITH WHO'S THE OTHER END OF THE CONTRACT.

WE'LL BRING MIKE. YOU DIDN'T IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

PLEASE, SIR. MIKE DEAN ENTERTAINMENT. ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD. BOB. THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE PROMOTER WILL GET FIRST REFUSAL TO ANY OPERATING STRAND MERCHANT FOR AVAILABLE BOOTH SPACE UP TO 30 DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT.

DO YOU CHARGE THE LOCAL MERCHANTS THE SAME AS YOU WOULD FROM SOMEBODY? FOR SOMEBODY FROM UPTOWN? WE DO. WE ACTUALLY GO OUT SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE. WE GO OUT IN JULY. IT'S THE CHEAPEST THE MERCHANT BOOTH CAN BE PURCHASED FOR US IN JULY.

WE GO TO EVERY DOWNTOWN AND PASS OUT A LETTER AND SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS IF YOU WANT TO DO IT.

AND TO THIS DAY, WE'VE HAD VERY FEW MERCHANTS RESPOND.

VERY FEW MERCHANTS. DO THEIR BOOTHS HAPPEN TO BE IN FRONT OF THEIR BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESS WHEN THEY DO? NO, I THINK THAT FROM THE POLICE STANDPOINT AND THE MEETINGS I'VE SET INTO SOME OF THAT, IF YOU ALLOWED, LET'S SAY, A STRAND MERCHANT TO PUT A BOOTH OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STRAND, IT CAUSES A TACTICAL DIFFICULTIES FOR THE SWAT AND RESPONSE TEAMS FOR SECURITY, ALLOWS PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO HIDE FROM THE POLICE.

AND SO WE AVOID THE STRAND ALTOGETHER. SO MAKING A RULE THAT YOU COULD HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOUR STORE AND YOU WENT OUT AND PUT A FOOD TRUCK THERE, IT WOULD CAUSE THE CHIEF AND THE SWAT TEAM A GREAT DEAL OF ANXIETY.

YEAH. ALL THE BASICALLY ALL THE BOOTHS ARE ON THE NORTH SOUTH STREETS.

YEAH. OKAY. SO WE OFFER THEM INSIDE THE FOOTPRINT, THEIR CHOICE.

NOW WE HAVE VENDORS WHO'VE BEEN WITH US, AND IF YOU SIGN UP BY A CERTAIN DATE, YOU GET YOUR SPACE BACK.

IT'S KIND OF TYPICAL BUSINESS PRACTICES, BUT IF THEY WERE TO WANT TO GO, WE WOULD SHOW THEM THE FOOTPRINT AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU HAVE. WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? SO LOCAL VENDORS TYPICALLY DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

DO THEY JUST CLOSE UP, OR DO THEY JUST KEEP OPENING THEIR DOORS AS THE WAY THEY ALWAYS DO? I THINK MOST PEOPLE STAY OPEN. IF YOU'RE SELLING FOOD AND BEVERAGE, YOU'RE PROBABLY DOING PRETTY GOOD.

YEAH. I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION ON. LET'S SEE. THIS IS STILL UNDER NUMBER SEVEN AS ORGANIZER WILL INFORM ALL VENDORS THAT THE VENDOR MUST DESIGNATE THE CITY OF GALVESTON FOR SALES TAX REVENUE PURPOSES AND WILL PROVIDE A LIST OF SUCH VENDORS AND VENDOR CONTACT INFORMATION TO THE CITY TO ASSIST WITH SALES TAX ENFORCEMENT.

I'M NOT SURE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU, MIKE, BUT MY QUESTION IS, HAS THIS EVER BEEN AUDITED, THIS AMOUNT OF SALES TAX THAT WE GET FROM IT, HOW DO WE HOW DO WE. WELL, ONE YEAR GLENN WENT DOWN AND ATE ABOUT 36 TURKEY LEGS TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ALL COLLECTING SALES TAX. I KNOW THAT, BUT YES, THEY DO THAT.

AND THERE'S BEEN YEARS THAT THE COMPTROLLER'S HERE CHECKING EVERYBODY WHEN THEY CHECK IN. YOU KNOW, THE STATE REALLY CHECKS THAT MORE THAN WE DO, BUT GLENN WILL SPOT CHECK IT AS NECESSARY TO.

HE HAS IN THE PAST AND I GUESS THAT WOULD GO FOR ANY EVENTS DOWN THERE. THE LONE STAR RALLY ONE YEAR WE WENT AND PHOTOGRAPHED EVERY SINGLE PERMIT TO DO OUR OWN INTERNAL AUDIT.

I'M SURE THAT THE CITY OF GALVESTON WAS RECEIVING THOSE TAX DOLLARS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEMBER OF THE COMPTROLLER THERE WITH US AT VENDOR CHECK IN.

SO SHE VERIFIES THEIR LLC, VERIFIES WHO THEY ARE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT DELINQUENT ON ANY TAXES ANYWHERE ELSE BEFORE THEY COME IN.

IF THEY HAVEN'T PAID THE STATE, THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY THEM RIGHT THERE.

SO IF THEY'RE RETURNING VENDOR AND THEY DON'T PAY THAT YEAR, THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY BY THE NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'RE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT ENFORCING THAT PART OF THE RULE.

OKAY. NUMBER TEN, EVENT NAME, ADVERTISING AND SIGNAGE SAYS ORGANIZER MAY REQUIRE ANY PERSON PERSON PURCHASING ADVERTISING, SPONSORSHIP OR SIGNAGE RIGHTS FROM ORGANIZER TO PAY THOSE FEES DIRECTLY TO THE CITY.

AND THE CITY, AS PERMITTED BY LAW, WILL CREDIT ALL SUCH FEES RECEIVED AGAINST THE EVENT FEE PAYABLE TO THE ORGANIZER UNDER THIS AGREEMENT.

I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED AS THE ORGANIZER OR THE CITY KEEP THE SPONSORSHIP FEES, THE PAYCHECK, OR THE CHECK FOR THE SPONSORSHIP FEES. COME TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON AND THEY GO INTO OUR ADMINISTRATION, AND THOSE FEES ARE DEDUCTED FROM THE ANNUAL FEE THAT HE PAYS THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

OKAY, SO HE SECURES THE SPONSOR, BUT THE MONEY COMES TO US.

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OKAY. AND IT'S LIKE I SAID, PART OF PART OF THE THE $100,000 FEE IS CREDITED.

OKAY. NUMBER 11, TRASH FENCING. WAIT A MINUTE.

OH, I GOT ANOTHER ONE HERE. THE SAME. THE SAME NUMBER TEN EVENTS, NAME, ADVERTISING AND SIGNAGE.

TOWARDS THE END, IT TALKS ABOUT THE ORGANIZER MAY POST BUILDING OR BALCONY OR OTHER SIGNS, OR MAY ALLOW PERMITTED VENDORS TO DO SO AT ANY TIME.

IS THERE ANY KIND OF EFFORT TO NOT BLOCK THE LOCAL VENDOR SIGNAGE WITH THE MARDI GRAS SIGNAGE.

I'M JUST THINKING. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE LOCAL VENDOR THERE WHO'S TRYING TO DO BUSINESS, AND HE'S GOT A SIGN UP AND, WELL, MOST OF THEIRS HANG UNDERNEATH THE BALCONY UNDERNEATH THEM. AND LIKE, RARELY, I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU PUT ANYTHING DOWN THERE BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST GET TORN UP AS IT GOES ONTO THE BALCONY. FENCES GOES ABOVE IT.

OKAY. OKAY. HAVE YOU GONE TO MARDI GRAS, BOB? THEY'RE ALL UP. YEAH, WELL, A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE THIS PIECE IS IMPORTANT.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT TO SOME COMPANIES.

AND SO IF YOU'RE A SPONSOR, THEN YOU GET SIGNAGE RIGHTS FOR MARKETING, RIGHT.

YOU SEE IT AT EVERY EVENT. AND THEN THERE ARE GUERRILLA TACTICS WHERE THESE OPPOSING SIGNS COME OUT OF NOWHERE AND POP UP.

AND SO WE GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THESE GUYS ARE A SPONSOR.

BIGGER PROBLEM AT BIKE RALLY THAN MARDI GRAS, RIGHT? OH YEAH. WE DID HAVE A TOPLESS BAR COME DOWN IN A BALCONY AND LAYER IT WITH SIGNAGE, AND WE HAD TO GO UP THERE VERY POLITELY PUT IT ALL DOWN.

OKAY, JUST READ SOMEBODY'S APARTMENT AND THOUGHT THAT GAVE THEM THE RIGHTS TO MIKE.

WENT UP THERE IN EIGHT HOURS. LATER, HE HAD IT ALL WORKED OUT. YEAH. I'M TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM SETTING HIM UP. I CAN DO THAT.

THAT ALSO DOES. THAT REDUCES ALL THESE MASSIVE PEOPLE TRYING TO COME IN AND PUT UP THEIR BANNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I CAN SEE HOW THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM. BOB, DID YOU HAVE A LIST OF THINGS ON THE CONTRACT IS YOU'RE WANTING TO GO THROUGH? IS THAT KIND OF GETTING THEM ALMOST DONE HERE? OKAY. TRASH FENCING AND SANITATION. IT SAYS ORGANIZE AND MAKE THE BEST EFFORT TO HAVE VENDORS REFRAIN FROM USING PLASTIC BAGS FOR RETAIL SALES AND SO FORTH.

DOES THAT ACTUALLY WORK? IT'S HARD. IT'S HARD, BUT IT'S HARD.

BUT YOU'D BE SURPRISED. WE'VE GOTTEN WAY MORE COMPLIANCE THAN I THOUGHT WE WOULD GET.

IT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM. THE BIGGER PLASTIC PROBLEM ARE THE CREWS AND THE BAGS THAT THE BEADS COME IN THAN HIS VENDORS, AND CONFETTI AND CONFETTI CANNONS, WHICH DAVID CHASE'S CONFETTI CANNONS FOR THE ENTIRE EVENT.

IT'S A MYLAR. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CRAP IN THOSE THINGS. YEAH.

AND WE WE TELL THE CREWS NOT TO FIRE THEM OFF, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE BEACH AREA.

EVERY YEAR WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY 1 OR 2 THAT DO IT.

WELL, WE WE HAVE WITHHELD THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST PLASTIC BAGS.

PLASTIC IS EVERYWHERE. OH, YOU GOT TIES. ZIP TIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YOU CAN'T. YEAH. THIS IS A BOILERPLATE THAT WE PUT IN.

WE TRY TO WE DO THIS ON ALL OF OUR BIKE RALLY TO AND ALL THE EVENTS.

BUT IT'S WAY BETTER THAN IT USED TO BE. THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAVE, IF IT'S REALLY WINDY, IS THE BAGS BLOWING OFF THE FLOATS.

THAT'S THE BIGGER ISSUE. I THINK THAT MIKE'S DEAL DOWNTOWN AND THAT'S BIGGER ISSUE ON 25TH STREET THAN IT IS DOWNTOWN.

WHAT ARE YOUR NEXT ONE ON THE CLEAN ON THE CLEANUP? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CITY SHALL PROVIDE LABOR AND MATERIALS FOR CLEANUP.

DOES THIS INCLUDE EMPTYING THE GARBAGE CANS? OKAY, SO THE CITY DOES THAT? WELL, NO. DURING THE EVENT, WE HAVE A WHOLE CREW THAT GOES OUT THERE SWEEPING AND LOADING STUFF, AND YOU'LL SEE THEM WITH CARTS, AND THEY THROW THEM INTO THESE THREE DIFFERENT DUMPSTERS THAT WE PUT OUT. BUT AT THE END OF THE EVENT, IT'S KIND OF THE SPIRIT OF THE IDEA. WAY BACK WHEN WAS THE CITY, WHETHER THERE'S A PROMOTER OR NOT, THERE ARE PARADES THAT GO DOWNTOWN.

SO STREETS ARE BLOCKED, COPS ARE GOING TO BE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAN UP.

AND SO WE'VE TAKEN THAT PART. SO OKAY, ANY MESS WE MAKE, WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN.

AND SO DURING THE EVENT WE'RE CONSTANTLY CLEANING.

THAT'S ON MY NICKEL MY TEAM AND THEN THE CITY.

WE'RE WE'RE EMPTYING OUR TRASH CANS. WHEN DO WE BRING IN THE STREET SWEEPERS.

YEAH. WELL THEY THEY MAKE AN APPEARANCE. THEY MAKE AN APPEARANCE.

I LOVE THAT. HOW MANY MORE YOU HAVE? MAKE AN APPEARANCE.

IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW QUICKLY IT CLEANS UP, THOUGH.

BOTH. BOTH MARDI GRAS AND BIKE RALLY. YOU YOU STRUGGLE THE NEXT DAY TO SEE ANY ISSUES.

THEY DO A GOOD JOB. THEY DO A GOOD JOB. I WAS JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT HENRY THAT DID.

THE STREET SWEEPER. THAT WAS ACTUALLY MIKE'S IDEA YEARS AGO.

BUT THEY WORK WELL. YEAH, WE USED TO ACTUALLY SEND A FORCE DOWN THERE TO CLEAR THE STREETS, BUT THERE WAS ONE YEAR THAT WE HAD TO GO DOWN THERE AND PUSH THE ENFORCEMENT.

OF COURSE, MR. DEAN WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CROWD, SO HE EXPERIENCED A LITTLE TEAR GAS. DID YOU? I DID, YES. SO THE STREET SWEEPERS DO WORK WELL.

IT WAS HIS IDEA. THE POINT IS, WE GET UP THERE AND RIDE THE CLOSING. WE FIRE UP THE STREET SWEEPERS.

AND AS HE'S PUT IT BEFORE, NOBODY WANTS THEIR T SHIRT, T SHIRTS AND THEIR TENNIS SHOES TO GET ALL WET BY THE STREET SWEEPERS.

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SO THEY JUST VANISH AND THEY THEY BURP, BELCH AND SPRAY AND THEY DO A GOOD JOB.

YEAH. OKAY. I WAS JUST TRYING TO COORDINATE BETWEEN NUMBER 16 CLEANUP AND NUMBER 30 MAINTENANCE OF THE EVENT AREAS.

BUT THAT'S THE OTHER REASON FOR THE PLASTIC IS BECAUSE THE MYLAR GUMS UP THE STREET SWEEPERS, BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE SPINNING, IT HEATS UP AND IT MELTS TO EVERYTHING. AND THE MAINTENANCE IS A REFERENCE TO, I THINK LAST YEAR DURING MARDI GRAS, WE HAD A HANDRAIL THAT WAS DAMAGED. AND SO HE HAS TO GO BACK INTO THE EVENT AREA AFTER THE EVENT.

I'LL MAKE A DRIVE THROUGH THE AREA IF WE FIND ANY DAMAGES INVOLVED.

I'LL GO WITH MIKE. THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE NECESSARY REPAIRS. THAT'S ALL I GOT ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.

YEAH, THAT'S ALL I GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK MIKE.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS IN THE PAST.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THIS THIS AFTERNOON.

BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, MIKE NOTWITHSTANDING.

HAVE A HAVING A PROMOTER FOR THIS EVENT. YOU CANNOT PUT A PRICE TAG ON THE VALUE OF THAT FOR THE CITY YOU'RE FROM.

YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THIS. IT WOULD NOT GO WELL.

AND ESPECIALLY SOMEONE WHO DOES IT SO WELL. SO THANK YOU.

AND I WANT TO COMMEND DAVID SMITH. MY GOODNESS HE WORKS BEHIND THE SCENES.

PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS. BUT HE WHEN THESE EVENTS HAPPEN DAVID IS WORKING 24 OVER SEVEN.

ABSOLUTELY IT'S DAVID. MARDI GRAS IS A VERY SPECIAL EVENT TO ME BECAUSE IT FALLS ON MY ANNIVERSARY.

AND IF YOU DON'T THINK I DON'T CATCH KANE WHEN I GO HOME, IT ACTUALLY FALLS ON VALENTINE'S DAY.

YOU SAID THAT WAS YOUR FAVORITE PART. I'M NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT.

I'VE SEEN HIS WIFE SITTING IN HIS OFFICE THAT WEEKEND, SO I KNOW, BUT IN FAIRNESS, IT'S NOT ME.

IT'S THE TEAM. IT'S MR. PERKINS. IT'S THE TRASH TO PEOPLE.

IT'S THE POLICE, IT'S THE EMS. IT'S NOT ME. AND THIS IS AN EVOLVING EVENT, GUYS.

I MEAN, SECURITY, THIS IS MY 15TH YEAR DOING IT.

SECURITY. 15 YEARS LATER IS NOTHING LIKE IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR.

AND, YOU KNOW, POST NEW ORLEANS NOW IT'S EVEN WAY DIFFERENT.

SO IT'S IT'S PUT A CAPTION IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT SHOWS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I WAS WORKING WHEN THE SHOOTING OCCURRED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. AND IT WAS AFTER THAT THE PARKS BOARD CAME UP WITH A CREW AND THEY SAID, WE NEED TO GET THESE EVENTS.

WE HAVE TO CHARGE TO CONTROL THE CROWDS THAT COME IN. MIKE IS GREAT ABOUT GETTING WITH ME AND SAYING, WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS. WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. IT WORKS VERY WELL, BUT IT'S HIS, HIS CREWS AND THE CITY OF GALVESTON STAFF THAT DOES A GOOD JOB.

ALEX, WHAT ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR ANY OF THIS TO.

FOR POLICING. THAT'S. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

GPD HEADS UP SECURITY FOR THIS. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE GPD EVENT SUPPLEMENTALLY.

IT'S POSSIBLE. YES. BUT WE ALSO SHARE RESPONSIBILITIES AND GET OTHER AGENCIES.

CONROE COMES OUT AND ASSISTS CITY OF HOUSTON COUNTY AND SOME.

CHIEF, COULD YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE, SIR? YES.

SO WE HAVE A HOST OF OF AGENCIES THAT COME IN AND ARE WE ARE WE GOING TO PLAN ON PUTTING ANY LIKE I GUESS YOU CALL THEM COWS FOR INTERNET SERVICE AND PHONE SERVICE OUT THERE. WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE MOBILE? MOBILE? THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE PROVIDER WOULD BE AT&T.

AND I'VE TALKED TO AT&T ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE WE HAVE AS CONNECTIVITY.

SO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT PUTTING SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR INTERNET DOWN HERE.

ARE THEY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. YES. THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE NOW, WHICH I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL DICKENS, IS WE LOST DURING MARDI GRAS, DURING LONESTAR RALLY DURING THE 4TH OF JULY. WE LOSE CELL PHONE SERVICE.

STAFF HAS TO COMMUNICATE VIA TEXT MESSAGES, AND IT HAPPENED DURING DICKENS AS WELL.

AND I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL THE CITY MANAGER ADVISED ME WHEN THE CRUISE SHIPS COME IN, EVERY EVERY FOURTH, 4000 FOLKS THAT COME IN THE CRUISE SHIPS, IT PLUGS TO A TOWER AND IT DECREASES SERVICE.

IT BECAME MORE OF AN ISSUE WITH THE CRUISE SHIPS AS OUR CRUISES HAVE GROWN THAN IT WAS BEFORE.

SO IT HAPPENED THIS SATURDAY AT CHILE. YES WE CAN.

THERE WAS ANOTHER, I GUESS WE'LL PUT IT ON OR BRIAN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE'VE I'VE TALKED TO AT&T TOO, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS THAT WE CAN THANK YOU. AND THERE'S A THING WE CAN DO TO GET ALL THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES DISCOUNT ON THEIR PERSONAL LINES FOR BEING A PERSON GETTING COUNCIL. WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BETTER SERVICE, BUT IT'S STILL NOT FOOLPROOF.

COMPLETELY. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE CONTRACT ON THAT GENTLEMAN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU GOTTA GET DONE BY SIX.

THE POSTER UNVEILINGS TONIGHT, THE TREMONT. OH, OKAY.

WE'RE MISSING. DON'T MISS IT. WE'RE GOING TO MISS IT.

WE'RE GOING TO MISS IT. CHANCES GO LATE. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE GOALS.

ALEX. BOB. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO SECOND TO LAST.

I ALWAYS GO FIRST. WELL, YOU ALWAYS NEVER GO FIRST.

YOU ALWAYS GO LAST AND FIRST. THE LAST THREE MEETINGS.

NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS? MARIE YOU WANT TO GO OVER? I'M GOING TO. YOU COULD GO.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. SHARON? YES. MAYOR.

JUST A FEW. LET'S SEE. THERE'S 11 Y,

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11 Y, BUT IT'S REALLY. IT'S 11 Z. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON.

IT'S REALLY 11 Z. OKAY. TYSON. 11. WHAT? GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT. EXCELLENT.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE THE SEARCH FOR FUTURE, I GUESS.

REFERENCES. IS THERE A SURGE PROTECTOR THAT COULD PROTECT PUMPS LATER? OR. I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO TRY TO PROTECT THESE.

THIS IS A PUMP WELL WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE PLANT.

SO DOWNSTREAM OF THE CONNECTION TO THE UTILITY, WE DO HAVE SURGE PROTECTION DEVICES CLOSER TO THE CONNECTION TO THE UTILITY, BUT SOMETIMES WE STILL HAVE A SURGE INSIDE.

YEAH. AND WE HAVE WE GET DIRTY POWER QUITE A BIT.

SO THIS HAPPENS QUITE A BIT. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT YOU CAN DO.

AND IT DIDN'T IT DOESN'T KILL THE PUMPS RIGHT AWAY.

YEAH, IT RESETS THEM AND OVER TIME IT WILL DEGRADE THEM.

SO THAT REPORT PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE CLEARER ON THAT.

IT DIDN'T KILL HIM. BUT THE START AND STOP IS HARD ON THE PUMPS.

THAT'S MORE THAN THE POWER SURGE, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK.

BUT THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE DAMAGE. ULTIMATELY, OVER YEARS.

OVER YEARS, IT CAUSES DAMAGE. I HAVE A HARD TIME WHEN PEOPLE TALK.

ONE TIME, IT DEFINITELY CONTRIBUTED TO IT. IT DIDN'T.

IT WASN'T THE ONLY FACTOR. THAT. AND I JUST WAS ASKING FOR FUTURE, FOR SAFETY.

SO YOU EXPLAINED IT TO ME. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.

AND DID YOU ASK ABOUT SOLE SOURCE? YEAH. SO I JUST.

DOES THAT MEAN THE ONLY ONE? SO BASICALLY THIS PUMP IS ONLY PROVIDED BY ONE MANUFACTURER OR VENDOR.

SO WE'RE REPLACING IN KIND. SO IN ORDER TO AVOID GOING OUT FOR QUOTES, WHICH WE COULDN'T GET ANYWAYS BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WOULD QUOTE THAT WE PURCHASED DIRECTLY FROM THAT VENDOR. AND SO WE HAD TO GET A SOLE SOURCE JUSTIFICATION TO TO DO THAT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. I LIKE THAT BOLAWRAP.

WHAT IS THAT? 11 E. THAT IS A WONDERFUL DONATION.

I'M JUST VERY EXCITED. THANK YOU FOR THE GRANT.

YOU ALL ARE ALWAYS OUT THERE. LOOKING FOR GRANTS AS WELL.

I WAS GOING TO SAY. YES, MA'AM, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? I JUST I LOOKED IT UP, AND I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN THE DUCK VALLEY POLICE CHIEF.

THE THE CHECK WAS PRESENTED. OF COURSE, WE CAN'T OFFICIALLY ACCEPT IT UNTIL WE DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, AFTER THAT AND WE'LL SET UP SHIPPING AND TRAINING.

EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED. TRAINING, ALL ACCESSORIES, EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO GET STARTED.

WE'RE WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO MARY MOODY NORTHERN ENDOWMENT FUND FOR THEIR GENEROUS DONATION.

AND THE BOLAWRAP IS A SYSTEM THAT IT'S IT'S LESS LETHAL SYSTEM THAT ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS SUFFERING FROM A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS OR SOMEONE WHO'S NOT COOPERATIVE WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS DEVICE TO WRAP THEM UP AND GET THEM INTO CUSTODY WITHOUT ANY INJURY. THIS THIS DEVICE DOES NOT HURT TASERS.

HURT. PEPPER SPRAY HURTS. BATONS HURT. THIS DOES NOT INJURE.

IT DOES NOT HARM YOU. AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT UTILIZING THIS AND ESPECIALLY GETTING IT INTO THE HANDS OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH TEAM IN CASE IT'S NEEDED, SO THAT THE, THE MINIMAL LEVEL OF FORCE IS USED TO, TO GAIN CUSTODY OR CONTROL OF OF PEOPLE.

SO I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC. OUR COAST TEAM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMS. I MEAN, IT'S THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF OUR BUSIEST UNITS NEXT TO ANIMAL CONTROL, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? IT CERTAINLY HIGHLIGHTED OUR REPEAT CUSTOMERS.

BUT IT'S, IT'S AND IT'S KIND OF A ONE OF A KIND UNIT THESE DAYS, AND, BUT IT IS STAYING VERY BUSY AND IT HAS EARNED ITS, ITS PATH FOR US. THESE ARE ONE TIME USE. YES.

PER CARTRIDGE. IT'S REMOTE. RIGHT. YOU'RE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET AWAY FROM.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND IT'S IT SHOOTS AS A BLAST.

IT'S GOING TO SOUND. IT'S DESIGNED TO SOUND LIKE, LIKE GUNFIRE TO TO TO KIND OF INCAPACITATE TO TO SHOCK.

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YEAH. WELL, TO SHOCK AND AND THEN ONCE YOU REALIZE WHAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED, YOU'RE JUST WRAPPED UP IN IT AND YOU CAN'T LIKE AN OLD WESTERN WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING AND THEY THROW THE BALL OUT. YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

BUT IT SHOOTS OUT REALLY FAST. WRAPS AROUND YOUR BODY ALL THE WAY.

OPEN YOUR ARMS TO YOUR BODY, IT'LL PIN YOUR LEGS TO WHERE YOU'RE JUST KIND OF IN IT AND INCAPACITATED.

SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD. VERY GOOD. LIKE A SPIDER-MAN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SHARON? NO, NO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYTHING ELSE? SHARON 11 A 11 A.

MORNING, MIKE. GOOD MORNING. I GOT EXCITED WHEN I READ ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CONE. WINJE CONE. IT'S GOING TO BE OPERATED VIA SOLAR ENERGY.

YES, A WIND CONE IS COMMONLY CALLED A WINDSOCK.

IT'S A BIG SOCK OUT THERE BETWEEN THE TWO RUNWAYS ON THE SOUTH END, AND THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY OUT THERE.

REALLY. SO THE SOLAR POWER WILL WORK FOR WHAT WE NEED.

PLUS, IT'LL OPERATE OUR SECONDARY WIND SPEED INDICATOR THAT WILL RELAY THE INFORMATION, THE WIND SPEED AND DIRECTION UP TO THE CONTROL TOWER.

RIGHT NOW IT'S UP ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING AT THE TERMINAL BUILDING, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD LOCATION. OKAY.

AND IS THIS THE FIRST PURCHASE OF THIS KIND? FOR ME? YES. IT'S THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE ON THE AIRPORT.

SO. BUT THEY'RE MORE POPULAR NOW. THEY'VE BEEN, I GUESS, LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

RIGHT. WELL, I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THAT ONE.

AND I DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT IT'S ALSO RAMP ELIGIBLE, SO WE'LL GET 90% OF THAT REFUNDED BACK TO US.

OH. SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WELL, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER. I'M SORRY. YES, MA'AM. NOT FOR YOU. NOT FOR YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY KUDOS TO. AND IT'S EIGHT BE IT'S 3427 SEALY AND IT IS GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK AND THAT IS WITHIN DISTRICT ONE.

SO IT ADDS TO THE HISTORICAL PATH THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. MARIE I HAVE 8D8D8D.

CATHERINE. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I READ THROUGH THIS PACKET AND I'M STILL NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

EIGHT D IS A GALVESTON LANDMARK DESIGNATION. NO NO NO, NO, IT'S A HIGH DENSITY DENSITY.

OH, I MUST HAVE GOTTEN MINE MIXED UP. SO, EIGHT.

THEY'RE WANTING TO CHANGE TO A CHANGE OF ZONING REQUEST.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R1 WITH HDC OVERLAY, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO CHANGE IT TO COMMERCIAL AND KEEP THE HDC.

THEY'VE NOT DONE ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.

IT'S JUST THE CHANGE OF ZONING. AND THIS IS PART OF STELLA MARA.

IT'S NEXT DOOR TO STELLA MARA, BUT IT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

IT'S A SEPARATE OWNER. AND WHAT ARE THEY? THEY HAVEN'T SAID WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO FOR CHANGES OF ZONING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DISCLOSE ANY DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

AND THEY'RE. SO IF THEY GO INTO THE SIX HEIGHT AND DENSITY, HOW HIGH WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO GO? IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY. THEY COULD GO UP TO A MID-RISE WHICH HAS A HEIGHT MAXIMUM OF EIGHT STOREYS.

SAY THAT AGAIN EIGHT STOREYS. OKAY. SO. SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE CHANGE IN ZONING, BUT YET WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THAT'S CORRECT.

SO REQUESTS LIKE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS HAVE TO BE PROJECT SPECIFIC.

BUT CHANGES IN ZONING IS NOT A REQUIREMENT IN THE PACKET MATERIAL.

CATHERINE, THERE IS A HANDWRITTEN NOTE, BUT YOU COULDN'T READ IT AND IT SAID THAT THEY WERE THINKING POSSIBLY OF RV TYPE. RIGHT. THEY HAVE FLOATED THAT AS A POSSIBILITY.

YEAH. YEAH. THE ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH ZONING AROUND IT.

YEAH. SO IT'S IT'S A POCKET OF R-1 THAT IS BOOKENDED BY COMMERCIAL.

DOES COMMERCIAL DIRECTLY TO THE STREET IS OUR TO THE THE SOUTH.

THERE'S R-1 AND TO THE NORTH THERE'S RESURRECTION.

IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. I COULDN'T I COULDN'T READ THE HANDWRITTEN.

WE CAN TRANSCRIBE IT AND SEND IT AN EMAIL. I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

OR TEXT IT TO ME EITHER WAY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE? THANKS. KATHY, I CAN READ IT. YEAH.

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YOU CAN. WHY DID YOU BRING THAT OUT? I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW IT.

I WAS READING IT FROM THE. SO, ANY OTHER THING? YES. SO 11 F. YEAH.

DAVID, GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK. YES, MA'AM. SO THIS IS MUTUAL AID WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. COULD YOU EXPAND UPON IT? IT'S NOT YOU.

WHICH I'M SORRY, MA'AM. WHICH ONE ARE YOU? I'M SO SORRY.

I'M WONDERING WHY YOU CHOSE YOU. COULD YOU ADDRESS DOES EVERYBODY THINK I'M LOOKING FOR HIM TODAY? I'M SORRY. VANDIVER. GASKIN CITY LEGAL. SO THIS IS PART OF THE UVALDE STRONG ACT, WHICH PASSED THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION WENT INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST.

PART OF THE STRONG ACT AFFECTED A GREAT SWATH OF DIFFERENT STATUTES.

BUT THIS IS FOCUSED ON THE GOVERNMENT CODE, AND IT AMENDED THE GOVERNMENT CODE TO MANDATE THAT FIRST RESPONDER AGENCIES.

WELL, IT SAYS THE THE SHERIFF OF EACH COUNTY HAS TO IDENTIFY FIRST RESPONDER AGENCIES.

SHERIFF DID THAT. OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ARE RESPONDER AGENCIES.

IT MANDATES THAT ALL THOSE FIRST RESPONDER AGENCIES COME TOGETHER WITH DPS TO DO TABLETOP EXERCISES TO TRAIN AND BETTER PREPARE FOR. THE POTENTIAL OF YOU KNOW, EVENTS.

MASS SHOOTING, MASS CASUALTY EVENTS AT PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY JUST THIS MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT REALLY JUST IS SAYING EVERYBODY HAS TO GET TOGETHER WITH DPS AND WE HAVE TO WORK OUT THESE THINGS. SO IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL WORKING OUT OF THE THINGS.

IT'S JUST THAT EVERYBODY GET TOGETHER TO SIT AT THE SAME TABLE.

THERE ARE OTHER, OF COURSE, MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS. OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WILL ALWAYS RESPOND TO EVENTS, REGARDLESS OF AGREEMENTS OR NOT. BUT LIKE THIS IS AGAIN MANDATED BY STATE LAW.

SO IT'S JUST THIS AGREEMENT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GET TOGETHER.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

YES. THANK YOU. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. WE'RE ELIMINATED. OKAY. NEXT ONE IS 11 I.

ROBB. COME ON. FORWARD. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. SO WE ARE BASICALLY GOING TO BE RESURFACING STEWART ROAD FROM FROM WHERE THE CONCRETE ENDS THERE AROUND SEVEN AND A HALF MILE ROAD ALL THE WAY TO 305. OKAY. SO AND ONE THING TO NOTE, 11 I AND 11 J ON THE AGENDA ARE DUPLICATED.

SO THAT'S THESE ARE THE SAME ITEM. I WONDER IF THEY'RE SO GOOD.

WE'RE DOING IT TWICE. YEAH I HAD THEM BOTH MARKED.

SO THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANKS.

SO 11 V 11 V AS IN VICTOR. YEAH. CAN IT BE V AND VARELA? YEAH. I LIKE IT VERY QUICKLY. AS IN OUR WONDERFUL FIRE CHIEF, MIKE VARELA.

OKAY. YES, MA'AM. SO TELL ME ABOUT THIS. SO TEX-DOT REQUIRES CITIES TO COME BEFORE OR CREATE A RESOLUTION AT THE BEGINNING OF A CALENDAR YEAR FOR THE USE OF TEXAS ROADWAYS.

MARDI GRAS IS SOME OF THEM. MARTIN LUTHER KING WHEN CROSS BROADWAY.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN WE USE TEX-DOT ROADWAYS, WE HAVE TO CREATE A RESOLUTION PASSING THAT BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF EVERY YEAR.

YOU HAD ONE LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE. JUST A HEADS UP TO LET THEM KNOW WE'RE CROSSING THEIR RIGHT OF WAYS WITH THESE EVENTS. SO WHAT ABOUT IF WE HAVE AN EVENT IN BETWEEN, THEN THEY ARE USUALLY FORGIVING. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR OFFICE.

MEGAN PIERCE DOES, AND SHE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AND GET THE CLEARANCE FOR THAT AS WELL. WE NOTIFY THEM AND ROBB WINJE GIVES US A TRAFFIC PLAN AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. CAN WE PUT PAINT IN THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH 1111 Y,

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11 Y.

ICE. AND ARNOLD IS AGAIN WITH US. SO THIS IS ABOUT A PURCHASE OF A SPLIT CASE CENTRIFUGE, DUAL CENTRIFUGAL WHATEVER PUMPS FOR JAMAICA BEACH. I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH JAMAICA BEACH.

THAT'S WHERE OUR TANK IS. THAT ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS.

I KNOW WE HAVE A WATER TANK THERE, BUT WE'RE CLOSE TO BEING THE BIGGEST PROPERTY OWNER IN JAMAICA BEACH.

THESE PUMPS HELP FILL THE TANK. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEY'RE BASICALLY AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE.

OKAY. WE HAVE FULL CAPACITY AT JAMAICA BEACH OR AT ALL OF OUR WATER, ABOUT 95%, DON'T WE? ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE COMING INTO A FREEZE. RIGHT.

COMING UP TO THE FREEZE, WE WILL AND ACTUALLY PROBABLY GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT DRAINING ISLA DEL SOL.

THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY IN ANTICIPATION OF THE FREEZE.

BUT FOR TO ENSURE WATER QUALITY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DRAIN IT BEFORE THE FREEZE.

IT'LL TAKE A COUPLE HOURS TO, TO DRAIN. WE'RE DOING THAT TO GET FRESH WATER IN THERE IN ANTICIPATION OF IT STAYING FULL FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

WE'LL REFILL IT. YEAH, IT'LL IT WILL REFILL IT IN ABOUT AN HOUR.

WHEN YOU START DRAWING ON THESE TANKS AND THESE EVENTS, IF THE WATER'S STALE, PEOPLE GET WATER QUALITY ISSUES. SO WE'LL DO THAT TODAY.

IT'LL BE COMPLETE TODAY. I'M SORRY, WHEN I JUST HEAR DRAINING OF IT TAKES ME BACK TO 2021 WHEN BRIAN CALLED ME AND SAID, IF WE DON'T SHUT THE WATER OFF, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EVACUATE THE WEST END.

AND IT'S LIKE TO WHERE THERE IS NOWHERE. WELL, WE GOT ALL THE WATERSHEDS WITH OUR NEW SYSTEMS. I THINK WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING. AND THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.

BUT I THINK THAT'S IT. TYSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. BEAU. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE TWO THAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD.

ITEM EIGHT A CREATE A QUESTION FOR ME. EXCUSE ME.

DOES IT CREATE A QUESTION? WELL, I'VE GOT TO CHOOSE WHICH ONE YOU LIKE ON THAT.

I ITEM MADE A ON THIS. I KIND OF READ THROUGH.

GOOD MORNING. BARBARA, HOW ARE YOU? BARBARA SANDERSON DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

WITH BARBARA, I KNOW THAT THIS IS A GRANT APPLICATION FOR STARTING ON OUR REMEDIATION EFFORTS AND THINGS. WHERE IS THE FUNDING GOING TO COME FROM ONCE WE NEED TO GET IN TO ACTUALLY DOING THAT? THE THIS IS A GRANT FUNDED AFTER WE'RE FINISHED.

YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, WELL, WE HAVE SOME FUNDING ASIDE THROUGH IDC TO DEVELOP THE PARK.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE ONGOING THAT WILL BE. SO WE'LL BE TAPPING IN OF COURSE TO THAT IDC THAT WE SET ASIDE.

I'M HOPING THIS WILL COVER THE CLEANUP. OKAY.

THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE CLEANUP COVERED.

SO THE MONEY WE HAVE RESERVED IN IDC CAN GO FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK, AND THERE'LL BE FUTURE FUNDING.

RIGHT. THAT'S MY QUESTION. SO THIS WOULD COVER THAT.

AND THEN THE IDC FUNDING WOULD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR. WELL THAT'S WHAT WE PUT THE MONEY IN THERE FOR.

YEAH. AND WE SET ASIDE 600,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN $100,000 TO ACCRUE AFTER THAT EVERY ADDITIONAL YEAR.

YEAH. TO HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE SET ASIDE FOR THAT.

OBVIOUSLY MADE AN IMPRESSION ON IT. YES. THAT'S ACCURATE.

GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. THERE WERE THREE PEOPLE TALKING.

I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE, WHICH WE DO AT IDC FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARK.

ONCE WE FINISH WITH THE TC AND THE REMEDIATION ON THAT.

YES, SIR. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MAY I ASK A QUESTION ON 11 E WHILE SHE'S HERE? VERY QUICKLY. 11 E WHY SHE'S HERE. GO RIGHT AHEAD.

YES, MA'AM. AGAIN. THANK YOU. I THINK. IS THAT RIGHT? NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THAT'S THE BOLAWRAP. YES.

THE ONE ABOUT THE 11 M. 11 M. THAT IS JUST THE GRANT THAT YOU'RE APPLYING FOR FOR JONES PARK. JONES PARK? YES. YEAH. JUST A LITTLE UPDATE, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. WELL, WE WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE, ACTUALLY.

YESTERDAY WE MET WITH GALVESTON AND GALVESTON, AND WE'RE ON OUR MISSION TO.

I THINK WE HAVE A CHAMPION THAT'S GOING TO LEAD THE CHARGE.

BUT I'LL LET HER ANNOUNCE THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE THE CHAMPION OF THE FUNDRAISING.

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SO BETWEEN THAT AND IT'S A VOLUNTEER AND BETWEEN THAT AND US APPLYING FOR GRANTS, WE'RE HOPING TO OKAY AND MOVE FORWARD.

THAT'S THE GOAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DIVIDE IT UP INTO PHASES PHASE ONE A AND PHASE ONE B AND KEEP GOING TO DEVELOP THE PARK.

WE WANT TO GET THE DIRT MOVING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. MY LAST ONE IS 12 C. AND MIKE I DON'T IS MIKE CARUSO HERE.

THIS MIGHT FALL UNDER YOUR GUIDELINES ON 12 C.

IT'S THE STAFFING. IT'S A DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE DIRECTION CITY MANAGER TO RFP FOR A SEARCH FIRM.

IF MIKE CARUSO PURCHASING MANAGER I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT.

THIS IS TO TO TO SELECT A SEARCH FIRM BUT NOT TO PROCEED UNTIL THE NEW COUNSEL COMES ON BOARD. THAT'S THAT'S YOUR CHOICE. CORRECT.

WELL OKAY. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO DESIGNATE SOMEONE FROM THE CITY.

I BELIEVE IT'S HR TO HAVE ME ISSUE AN RFP THAT WE CAN START TODAY, AND THEN HAVE SOMEONE AS A RETAINER AND DECIDE TO USE THEM WHENEVER THAT DECISION IS MADE TO MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY, LET ME FINISH MY QUESTION. SO IF WE START TODAY AND IF THIS IS APPROVED, YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH THE 60 DAYS AND ALL THIS OTHER WHAT HOW LONG WHEN WILL THEY WILL IT COME BACK TO US FOR ACTUALLY SELECTION OF A.

SO. TYPICALLY THE MINIMUM IS GOING TO BE ABOUT THREE MONTHS FROM THE TIME YOU CREATE THE RFP TO THE TIME YOU GO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU TO APPROVE THAT THE AWARD, IT COULD TAKE LONGER DEPENDING UPON WHO'S THE WHO SUBMITS THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE CRITERIA FOR THE SELECTION PROCESS AT THE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS. SO THE SO THIS COUNCIL MIGHT BE INVOLVED AT THE END OF THE MAY AT THE MAY MEETING.

EXCUSE ME THE APRIL MEETING OF SELECTION OF A FIRM BUT PROBABLY WOULD BE THE NEW COUNCIL.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ME. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ON THAT.

YEAH, BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THE NEW COUNCIL.

BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT TILL AFTER THE NEW COUNCIL GETS ESTABLISHED IN MAY, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT ANOTHER THREE MONTHS THEREAFTER.

BUT YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT AUTHORIZING ANYONE TO MAKE A DECISION OTHER THAN WE'RE MAKING A DECISION TO HIRE A FIRM.

CORRECT. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S LIKE A RETAINER. THEY'RE SITTING THERE WAITING FOR US TO PULL THE TRIGGER TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO START THE PROCESS AND PUTTING OUT THIS RFP.

THIS IS MORE OF A BID PROCESS. IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT SETTING CRITERIA FOR HOW THE SEARCH SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE STRUCTURED OR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR THINGS.

TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS ONCE YOU'VE SELECTED YOUR VENDOR, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE A SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, WHAT CRITERIA THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE CANDIDATE, WHAT SCOPE OF SEARCH THEY WANT THEM TO PERFORM.

DO YOU WANT NATIONWIDE? STATEWIDE? YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE TYPE THINGS.

THAT'S TO BE THAT'S FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE ONCE THE VENDOR SELECTED.

AND HERE'S THE OTHER THING WITH IT. THE MORE YOU GET THEM INTO THE WEEDS OF DOING THE BUSINESS, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST. SO IF YOU SAY TO THEM GO OUT AND FIND FOLKS AND YOU GET 100 RESUMES, THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS DO YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH THE RESUMES OR DO YOU WANT THEM TO GO THROUGH THROUGH THE RESUMES AND COME DOWN TO THE FIVE FINALISTS OF THOSE SAY THAT'S GOING TO COST ADDITIONAL DOLLARS BECAUSE THE RESOURCES THEY'RE ALLOCATING RESOURCES ARE GOING TO COST.

SO THE MORE DETAIL YOU ASK THEM, MORE IN THE WEEDS YOU ASK THEM TO GET INTO, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST YOU.

SO IT GOES BACK TO WHAT BRIAN SAID. IT REALLY GOES BACK TO HOW IN DEPTH DO YOU WANT THEM TO GO INTO.

BUT THAT WOULD BE A SIT DOWN WITH THAT FIRM THAT WOULD BE AFTER THEY WERE SELECTED.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WHAT I GUESS WHAT MY THOUGHT IS.

IT'S JUST ME. I'M FINE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SELECTION OF A FIRM.

THIS COUNCIL GIVING INPUT ON HOW THAT SHOULD BE STRUCTURED AND WHO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR, AND ALL OF THAT IN CRITERIA THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT IS THE ROLE OF THE NEW COUNCIL COMING IN.

IS IT THE ROLE OF THEM? WELL, THAT'S YOUR THAT'S TOTALLY YOUR CALL.

THAT'S THAT'S MY FEELING. I MEAN I'M FINE TO HAVE.

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COMPANY X AVAILABLE FOR THE NEW COUNCIL THEN TO SIT DOWN WITH AND GO THROUGH ALL THE CRITERIA AND ALL THAT.

I THINK WHEN WE ESTABLISH THE RFP WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH THE RFP BASED UPON COST AND QUALIFICATIONS, AND WE'LL PUT A VALUE TO THAT ON THE FIRM TO PICK TO.

YES, THIS IS ALL ABOUT PICKING UP THE FIRM. SO LIKE I SAID WE'LL THAT WILL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE RFP THAT THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRM BASED UPON A CERTAIN SET OF CRITERIA. AND THAT CRITERIA IS KIND OF GENERIC CRITERIA, VERY GENERIC.

WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL GIVES INPUT TO.

WE CAN I MEAN WE'RE NOT REALLY NO. WE WOULD DO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE AUTHORIZING SAY HR TO DO IT REALLY.

WE AS THE CITY WOULD DO IT WHERE YOU WOULD COME IN AS YOU KNOW, ON THE BACK END.

I GOT IN THE BACK END WOULD BE COUNCIL'S DECISION FOR WHAT QUALIFICATIONS.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE NEW COUNCIL PROBABLY ACTUALLY TWOFOLD.

IT WOULD BE YOU'RE WE'RE COMING TO YOU WITH AN AWARD FOR A SPECIFIC RECRUITER.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION. YES.

WE AGREE TO THAT. AND THEN AS ALEX SAID ON THE BACK END OF THAT, THEN YOU WOULD SIT DOWN ON THE BLANK, YOU FILL IN THE BLANKS. THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S MY WHOLE COMMENT.

THE BACK END OF THAT, I THINK, IS THE, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE NEW COUNCIL OF THAT, BUT PROBABLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE. YES, MA'AM. AND THAT WAS EXACTLY THE PURPOSE OF ALEX AND I PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA IS WE MET WITH MIKE AND WE ASKED THEM, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF JUST PICKING A VENDOR? AND HE SAID 90 DAYS, WHICH BASICALLY PUTS US IN MAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEW COUNCIL IF WE WAITED TILL MAY, WE BE OUT WAY FAR OUT. SO THIS WAS JUST TAKING A COMMON SENSE APPROACH TO GETTING STARTED SO THAT WE'RE NOT OUT THERE. WELL, WE I AGREE, BUT THE WAY IT'S OUTLINED, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON WHEN WE VOTE ON THIS DAY.

NOT VOTING ON AN INDIVIDUAL. VOTING ON FROM. HERE TO IS THERE IS HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ON AN RFQ OR AN RFP. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RFQ AND RFP IS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

STATE STATUTE DOES NOT DEFINE THOSE FIRMS AS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

AND I HAVE TO ALWAYS REPEAT THE FOLKS. JUST BECAUSE A VENDOR TELLS YOU THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES DOESN'T NECESSARILY IF IT'S NOT DEFINED BY THE STATE STATUTE, I'M NOT GOING TO TREAT THEM AS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYER, BUT HE'S NOT DEFINED BY STATE STATUTE, RIGHT, OR PROFESSIONAL SOMEONE ELSE.

BUT WE WON'T GO THERE. BUT BUT UNLESS HE HAPPENS TO BE AN ENGINEER, UNLESS HE HAPPENS TO BE AN ENGINEER, YOU'RE HIRING AN ENGINEER FIRM, RIGHT? SO THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU DO THE QUALIFICATIONS, PRICING COMES AT THE END. YOU DON'T NEGOTIATE UPFRONT THE PRICE, YOU NEGOTIATE ON THE BACK END.

WHERE ON THE RFP. YOU KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE ON THE FRONT END, BUT THAT'S NEGOTIABLE IN THE RFP. THE FIRST INPUT THAT THIS COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE WOULD BE APRIL, BECAUSE IF IT'S IN MAY, MAY HAVE A NEW COUNCIL SEATED BY THE END OF OUR MAY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE'LL COME TO YOU WITH THE WE WILL IF WE IF YOU WILL, UNLESS YOU UNLESS THERE'S A RUNOFF, UNLESS YOU REFUSE TO LEAVE. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M JUST PLAYING. HEY, I'M PRINTING OFF THE DAYS HERE.

BUT BUT BUT YEAH. I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A RUNOFF, IT WOULD GO ON FURTHER AND FURTHER, BUT OKAY, I UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR ON THAT, BOB.

I THINK HE ANSWERED. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

IS EVERYTHING YOU WERE SAYING SOUNDED LIKE AN RFQ. ACCORDING TO STATE STATUTES, THEY ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS.

THEY'RE NOT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU CAN DO YOU CAN DO ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT IF YOU FOLLOW THE RFQ PROCESS, YOU GET IF YOU PUT AN RFQ ON THE STREET, YOU GOT TO FOLLOW THE RFQ PROCESS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO IT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. YEAH. IF YOU DO THE RFQ PROCESS, TECHNICALLY THEY'RE NOT REALLY THEY'RE NOT GIVING YOU COST.

RIGHT. AND THEN YOU THEN YOU HAVE TO ELIMINATE THEM. I CAN'T DO BUSINESS WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE EITHER TOO HIGH THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW YOUR COST UPFRONT.

AND SO THE RFQ PROCESS IS REALLY DESIGNED FOR THOSE WHO ARE STAMPING DOCUMENTS ACCOUNTANTS, ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS. CAN YOU SEND US, JUST FOR CLARITY, YOUR STATUTES OR THE STATUTE, NOT YOUR STATUTES.

THE CITY, THE STATE STATUTES PUT MY NAME ON IT.

YEAH. STATE STATUTES THAT THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW.

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SO WE UNDERSTAND. SURE, SURE. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING YOU CAN DO BOTH, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY'RE NOT PROFESSIONALS, I UNDERSTAND IT'S IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO ENGINEER A WAY TO FIND AN ATTORNEY.

WELL, ATTORNEY IS IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE TO FIND AN ATTORNEY.

BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT. THE SEARCH FIRM COULD ENGINEER A WAY TO DO IT. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO. OKAY.

OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MIKE, I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.

BLESS YOU. ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD. SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

[3.B. Discussion of a Park Board Budget Amendment as it relates to the participation of the Elissa in Sail 250 in New York Harbor (C. Ludanyi/M. Miles - 20 min)]

LET'S MOVE TO ITEM THREE B PLEASE. ITEM THREE B DISCUSSION OF A PARK BOARD BUDGET AMENDMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE PARTICIPATION OF THE ELISA IN CELL 250 IN NEW YORK HARBOR. WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF HAVING OUR I GUESS IS IT STILL CEO OF THE PARK BOARD, MARTY MILES INTERIM CEO OF THE PARK BOARD. AND WE HAVE SHEILA LADANYI, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND WE HAVE JEFF. OH, WE HAVE A JEFF REPRESENTATIVE.

HI. HOW ARE YOU, GENTLEMEN? LET'S PULL UP SOME CHAIRS.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. LET'S PULL UP SOME CHAIRS SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS A PLACE TO SIT.

AND CAN WE TAKE SOME OF THE CHAIRS FROM THE FRONT ROW THERE? WE HAVE CHAIRS IN THE BACK. RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE.

WELL THESE WILL BE THEY'LL BE TEMPORARY I THINK HERE.

SO. OKAY. AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF IF WE COULD GO AROUND THE TABLE SO EVERYBODY AND THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY IS.

HI. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. MARTY MILES, INTERIM CEO OF THE PARK BOARD.

SHEILA GALVESTON CFO. I'M RYAN BRADFIELD, INTERIM DIRECTOR AND PORT CAPTAIN OF THE GALVESTON HISTORIC SEAPORT FROM GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION. WILL WRIGHT, CHIEF CREATIVE OFFICER OF GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION.

VERY GOOD. GLAD TO HAVE EVERYBODY HERE. SO I WANT TO START WITH THANKING YOU FOR DRESSING PATRIOTICALLY.

RIGHT. THIS IS ALL ABOUT PATRIOTISM. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

THERE YOU GO. GO RIGHT AHEAD, MARTY. IF YOU SHEILA, DID YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS OR YOU WANT.

NOPE. I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION AS NEEDED, BUT I THINK THE SHOW IS RIGHT HERE.

GO RIGHT AHEAD. I'M NOT SURE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL YOU WOULD LIKE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE ALL.

I WOULD ASSUME YOU ALL HAVE READ THAT DECK THAT WE PROVIDED.

BUT I DO WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF FOR RECOMMENDING THAT YOU APPROVE THIS.

WE'VE SPENT PLENTY OF TIME TOGETHER. I THINK THEY HAD A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING.

IT FEELS GOOD THAT WHEN WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME PLACE, I ALSO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT I SAID WHEN WE MET IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S USUALLY JUST NOT HARD WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST RIGHT THINGS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO.

SO HERE'S THE VERY 10,000 FOOT VIEW. AND THE PARK BOARD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER TO GET THE ALISSA TO THE 250TH BIRTHDAY OR ANNIVERSARY, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

PARTY IN NEW YORK WITH TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ADVERTISING, PROMOTION AND WORLDWIDE VISIBILITY ALONG THE WAY.

WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN MISSPOKEN ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS IN NUMEROUS MEDIA FORMS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $750,000.

THAT IS COMPLETELY INACCURATE. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE WE ARE ASKING WE ARE PREPARING THE PARK BOARD TO DO A REVENUE GUARANTEE TO OF UP TO $750,000, THAT $750,000 IS A COMBINATION OF APPROXIMATELY $600,000 IN ACTUAL COSTS. TO GET ALISSA TO NEW YORK AND BACK.

THE ADDITIONAL 150,000 IS WHAT WE THINK WE WILL LIKELY WANT TO SPEND IN IN NORMAL MARKETING, PROMOTIONS, ADVERTISING, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE PAGE THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN IN YOUR DECK THAT SHOWED $750,000 REVENUE GUARANTEE, AND IT SHOWED THAT WE LIKELY WILL BRING IN, I THINK IT WAS 900,000.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I NOW BELIEVE, AND I'M HAPPY TO DETAIL, IF YOU IF YOU CARE.

I NOW BELIEVE THAT THAT NUMBER IS BETWEEN 1,000,002 AND $2 MILLION.

SO THIS IS NOT A COST. IT'S ACTUALLY A POSITIVE CASH FLOW REVENUE PRODUCING OPPORTUNITY.

WHILE MARKETING GALVESTON IS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY RARE AND COOL HISTORIC PLACE FOR TOURISM WHILE

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MAKING THE CITIZENS OF GALVESTON INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THE PATRIOTISM THAT'S GOING TO GO WITH GETTING ALYSSA THERE AND WHAT JEFF STANDS FOR AND EVERYTHING THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. HERE'S THE HERE ARE THE THREE PRIMARY SOURCES OF REVENUE SHARE THAT THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY SOURCES.

ONE IS THERE ARE FESTIVALS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO STOP UP TO ABOUT FIVE CITIES BETWEEN HERE IN NEW YORK.

I THINK RIGHT NOW, WILL'S TEAM IS LOOKING AT STOPPING AT AT LEAST THREE.

WE THE SHIP RECEIVES AN APPEARANCE FEE TO DO THAT.

THAT LITERALLY IT'S AN APPEARANCE FEE, LIKE A CELEBRITY.

MY BUDGET SHOWS THAT WE'LL MAKE WILL BE PAID FOR EIGHT DAYS AT $25,000 A DAY.

OUR RESEARCH SHOWS IT IS TYPICALLY BETWEEN 20 AND $40,000 A DAY FOR THIS APPEARANCE FEE.

SO I TOOK THE LOW END. LOWER END? THAT'S $200,000, PUT IN $200,000 FOR SPONSORSHIPS.

THAT NUMBER COULD GO AS HIGH AS WE NEEDED TO GO.

SPONSORSHIPS, AS IN, WHEN YOU ARRIVE IN THE PORT SPONSORED BY X, ITS SPONSORSHIP.

WE ARE NOT WE HAVE NOT FINISHED DEVELOPING ALL THAT WILL'S TEAM IS IS RUNNING LEAD ON THAT.

AND THAT IS WHAT DO YOU GET FOR SPONSORSHIP. IS IT 5000.

IS IT 10,000. IS IT 50,000. IS IT 100,000. AND THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM BEING ON OUR WEBSITE TO BEING ON TO HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THE SHIP, NOT PEOPLE. IT IS TO HAVE A FLAG ON THE SHIP OR A BANNER ON THE SHIP.

OR MAYBE WHEN WE'RE AT PORT AND THESE OTHER FESTIVALS, MAYBE YOU GET TO SHOW YOUR FLAG AS PART OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL KIND OF SEEN TALL SHIP FESTIVALS HERE, AND IT'S REALLY THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY THE APPEARANCE FEES AND STOPPING FESTIVALS ALONG THE WAY. AND THAT'S APPEARANCE FEE PAID BY, I GUESS, THE PROMOTER OF BOSTON, NEW ORLEANS, SOUTH CAROLINA. THE ONES UP THE ROAD.

CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S NOT INCLUDING FEES THAT WOULD CHARGE TO GET ONTO THE SHIP.

OR IS IT GOING TO BE BASICALLY KIND OF MAYBE SPONSORED? YOU CAN COME ON THE SHIP AND TOUR IT PAID FOR BY X.

I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE. I THINK THAT'S AND I SHOULD LET WILL ANSWER.

I THINK THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED. BUT THAT AND THINGS LIKE SWAG AND SOUVENIRS AND MERCHANDISE AND I PUT NOTES.

NOWHERE IN THESE BUDGETS ALL THAT CONTINUES TO POTENTIALLY GROW FOR JEFF.

THEN THE THIRD ONE, WHICH IS A BIG ONE. WHY I SAY NOW, I THINK IS BETWEEN 1,000,002 AND 2 MILLION.

EXCUSE ME, $2 MILLION IS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE THERE'S TWO SALES IN NEW YORK.

PICTURE THIS I GET GOOSEBUMPS EVERY TIME I DO THIS SORRY PICTURE GETTING ON THE ELISSA IN THE HUDSON RIVER, GOING THROUGH THE HUDSON RIVER, AND TURNING INTO NEW YORK HARBOR WITH THE FLOTILLA OF 70 TO 100 TALL SHIPS.

WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE THE SECOND SHIP IN THE FLOTILLA, FOLLOWING DIRECTLY BEHIND THE GOVERNMENT EAGLE, BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHAT ALYSSA MEANS, THE OLDEST SHIP.

JUST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THINGS. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE THE OLDEST.

YEAH. AND CLEARLY, THEY CAN TALK BETTER ABOUT IT THAN ME.

I WANT TO TALK TO THE BUSINESS SIDE, AND THEY CAN TALK THE ACTUAL OPERATION SIDE.

SO PICTURE THAT. MEANWHILE, WHILE PROBABLY THE FINEST FIREWORKS SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD WILL BE HAPPENING FOR OUR 250TH BIRTHDAY.

IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. IT'S IT'S WILD WHAT THIS MEANS.

WORLD CLASS WORLDWIDE. NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN. BUT IT'S ALSO SIGNIFICANT.

WELL, JUST TO MENTION ON THAT ON 4TH OF JULY, TYING IN FIFA, LIKE WE WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE THE SHIP THERE, BUT THAT DAY IN FIFA THERE'S ONLY TWO GAMES BEING PLAYED, ONE IN PHILADELPHIA, ONE IN HOUSTON.

SO THERE'S EVEN TIE IN THROUGH OUR FIFA STUFF WHERE YOU CAN WATCH THE TALL SHIP AT X, Y, Z IS GOING TO HAVE IT ON THEIR BIG SCREEN. I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL.

THERE WILL BE INTERNATIONALLY TELEVISED ON SAILS, BUT I MEAN, EVEN LOCALLY OWNED EVENTS, IT'S HUGE.

AND THEN THAT'S UP TO FEEL FREE. I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.

SO AND ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SEE THAT, THAT I BELIEVE IS THE SAME ONE THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, I DON'T THINK I'VE MADE CHANGES TO IT YET. LET ME STAY FOCUSED ON MARKETING FOR A MINUTE.

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SO THE, THE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL TELEVISION COVERAGES, YOU CAN'T BUY IT.

IT'S MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH THE NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO WE ARE WORKING ON PLANS FOR LOTS OF RECEPTIONS WHILE SHE'S IN NEW YORK.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S A TEXAS DELEGATION.

IT WILL CLEARLY BE THE TRAVEL WRITERS FROM NEW YORK.

IT WILL CLEARLY BE THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN TOURISM WILL BE INVITED TO OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ON THE SHIP WITH US.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT STUFF I'M TALKING ABOUT AT PORT, THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING ON THE SHIP FOR THE CRUISE THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE NUMBER WAS SO LOW, 500,000, IS I WAS DOING THAT BASED ON THINKING WE ONLY HAD 25 POTENTIAL SEATS, AND WE WERE TRAVELING, AND THE TOUR WAS ONLY ON THE FOURTH.

I'VE NOW LEARNED THAT WE CAN. WE WILL BE ABLE TO SELL SEATS AND DO THIS ON THE THIRD AND AGAIN ON THE FOURTH.

CLEARLY THE FOURTH BEING THE BIGGEST. I ALSO HAVE LEARNED THAT WE CAN GET 60, POTENTIALLY 60 PEOPLE ON THE SHIP ON THE FOURTH, AND IT'S AT 45 ON THE THIRD. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS.

EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN SO FAR SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SELL TICKETS BETWEEN 25 AND $40,000 A TICKET.

IT'S BIG MONEY. ONCE IN A LIFETIME. SO, I MEAN, CLEARLY, IF WE SOLD 60 TICKETS AT 25,000, THAT'S A MILLION AND A HALF RIGHT THERE. SO AGAIN, EVEN MY NUMBERS STILL CONTINUE TO BE CONSERVATIVE.

WE AS A GROUP ARE RISK AVERSE. WE AS A CITY ARE RISK AVERSE.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE. SO I ALWAYS WANT TO SHARE THE DOWNSIDE IF THERE'S A WEATHER EVENT AND THAT EITHER SHE DOESN'T GET THERE OR THE EVENTS CANCELED, WE'RE IT'S GOING TO COST THE PARK BOARD MONEY, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

BUT BECAUSE WHAT THIS IS, IS WE'RE ALWAYS OFFSETTING POTENTIAL REVENUE.

THAT NUMBER IS NEVER GOING TO BE BIG, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP G INITIALLY TO FUND THINGS.

THEY HAVE TO ORDER GET DONE, ETC.. BUT IT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER.

IT'S MAYBE 100 OR 150,000. IT'S NOT 600,000. AND SO AS AS THEY NEED MONEY TO PAY CREW TO PAY STAFF TO BUY SUPPLIES.

IF REVENUE HASN'T COME IN YET, WE'RE COVERING THAT.

THEN WE GET IT BACK IN IN THE FORM OF THESE REVENUES.

MARTY, LET ME ASK A TECHNICAL QUESTION IF I COULD.

SHEILA, WHAT WE NEED ON OUR IT'S ITEM 12 A ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

WE WOULD BE APPROVING AN AMOUNT OF BUDGET AMENDMENT OF AN AMOUNT UP TO 750,000 FOR THE TO PARTICIPATE IN CELL 250 BY HAVING THE ALYSSA THEN PARTICIPATE IN THAT EVENT. AND THEN THAT MONEY IS COMING OUT OF YOUR RESERVES THEN.

IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S COMING OUT OF CURRENT HOT RESERVES CONTROLLED BY THE PARK HOUSED AND CONTROLLED DEPARTMENT.

YES, SIR. AND IT COMES OUT AS NEEDED. WE'RE NOT CUTTING A CHECK FOR $750,000, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S A I MEAN, IT'S IT'S UNREALISTIC.

THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE'D NEVER BE OUT MORE THAN 100, $150,000.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON, LIKE WHEN TO SPONSOR MONEY.

COME IN, WHEN DO WHEN DO WE START TICKET SALES AND WHEN DOES THAT COME IN? ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, BEFORE YOU ASK MORE QUESTIONS, I REALLY WANT TO GIVE YOU TWO AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO COLOR BETWEEN THE LINES. I KNOW I DID THAT PRETTY HIGH LEVEL, SO PLEASE SPEAK.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, BOLSTERING ALL OF THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WHICH I KEEP REINFORCING.

IT IS NOT A IT IS NOT A PAYMENT. AND I REALLY LIKE THE ASPECT OF LOOKING AT THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN CHF AND PARK BOARD AND THE CITY.

I THINK IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF ALYSSA. I THINK IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW WE ALL HAVE PRIDE IN ALYSSA.

YOU KNOW, WE SURE HAVE IT ON OUR SIDE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SITTING HERE AND I'M LOOKING AT YOUR TV SCREEN BEHIND YOU.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S PART OF GALVESTON. AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT AND TO HAVE THAT SHOWN ON A LEVEL LIKE THIS IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S SPECIAL. IT'S RARE. IT'S GENERATIONAL, WHICH I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH.

AND IN ALL OF THIS TOO, IT'S NOT JUST I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY NEW YORK, 4TH OF JULY THAT'S YOU MENTIONED CELEBRITY.

IT'S THE HEADLINE SHOW, RIGHT? BUT IT IS NOT THE ENTIRETY OF THIS PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PORT STOPS ALONG THE WAY.

THESE ARE STRATEGIC IN THOUGHT, IN TAKING ILLICIT AREAS THAT SUPPORT HERITAGE TOURISM OR ARE FAMILIAR TO THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO AREAS AND CONNECT WITH AUDIENCES AND PEOPLE THAT ONE WANT TO SEE AN OLD SHIP, BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO GRAVITATE TO THAT KIND OF TOURISM ON ITS OWN.

SO THERE'S ALL OF THAT GOING UP. THERE'S SOME OF THAT COMING BACK.

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THERE'S FESTIVAL APPEARANCES, THERE'S PORT APPEARANCES, THERE'S A LOT OF MIXTURE AND A LOT OF VARIABILITY IN HOW THIS ALL COMES, ALL OF HOW THIS COMES TOGETHER. BUT IT'S AGAIN, IT'S EXCITING.

IT'S SO RARE. WE DID THIS IN 1986. WE SAILED.

ALISSA. EVERY YEAR THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM IS A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED PROGRAM.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DONE WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

THIS ALSO IS NOT IMPACTING ANYTHING THAT CHF IS DOING FOR DRY DOCK, WHICH WE HAVE TO DO TWICE IN A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

SO WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE THE SHIP INTO DRY DOCK HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, NEXT MONTH OR SO.

AND ALL OF THAT TIES IN REALLY NICELY TO BEING PREPARED FOR OUR ANNUAL DAY SAILS, BUT ALSO TO BE PREPARED FOR TAKING ON A TRIP LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW? I'M HERE FOR TECHNICAL LIAISON.

I SUPPOSE I'VE BEEN THE BOATSWAIN FOR SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AND RECENTLY MOVED INTO THIS ROLE.

SO I KNOW THE SHIP THROUGH AND THROUGH. SO WE'VE HUNG OFF THE SIDE.

I'VE HUNG OVER THE SIDE. I'VE CLIMBED TO THE TIP TOP 150 TIMES.

SO I KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE. HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU STAYED HERE WITH THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO DO THIS? SO WHEN I FIRST GOT HIRED AS THE BOATSWAIN IN 2019 WE ALL SAT AROUND A TABLE BECAUSE THIS WAS ALREADY BEING TALKED ABOUT BACK THEN, AND WE ALL KIND OF PINKY SWORE THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD STICK IT OUT UNTIL WE GOT HERE.

AND I'M THE LAST MAN STANDING THAT DOESN'T HAVE PAINT SOMEWHERE.

OH, I'M WEARING MY CLEAN CLOTHES. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

BUT YEAH, BUT WE'RE THE VOLUNTEER TEAM. I'VE GOT ABOUT 85 CREW RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE ALL ECSTATIC ABOUT THIS. SOME FOLKS ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT QUITTING THEIR JOBS TO DO THIS.

MY WIFE IS ONE OF THEM. SO YEAH. SO IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS PUSH AND DO IT.

YEAH. BUT. AND WHEN WOULD YOU LEAVE? WHEN ARE YOU PROJECTING TO LEAVE? TO GO TO NEW YORK. SO SOMEWHERE AROUND THE MIDDLE OF MAY, PROBABLY.

WE'RE SHOOTING FOR LIKE, MAY 15TH. IT WOULD BE A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY, I BELIEVE.

AND WE'D BE STOPPING IN SAINT PETERSBURG, FLORIDA GOING AROUND THE CORNER TO POTENTIALLY CHARLESTON.

AND THEN THE FIRST FESTIVAL STOP WOULD BE PORTSMOUTH, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM NORFOLK, AND THAT'LL BE FLEET WEEK PARADE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT YORKTOWN, WHICH A HISTORIC PORT JUST UP THE RIVER AND THEN OUT AND AROUND TO NEW YORK AND POTENTIALLY BOSTON BEFORE. DOES SHE HAVE TO BE DRYDOCK BEFORE YOU SAIL? YES. THAT IS A THAT'S A COAST GUARD CREW. THEY WILL MOST LIKELY BE, I GUESS, IF THEY'RE UNDERWAY IN THE SHIP.

BUT WHEN THEY GET TO PORT. PORT ACCOMMODATIONS ON PORT SIDE LANDSIDE.

IT WOULD BE ON THE SHIP. ALL OF US CREW WOULD STAY ON THE SHIP.

FOR THE MOST PART. WE HAVE A COOK THAT WOULD BE THERE AROUND, AROUND THE CLOCK. AND A ASSISTANT COOK, POTENTIALLY. I KNOW WHERE SHE COMES FROM.

YEAH. AND SO I. I'LL BE SLEEPING ON BOARD. SO.

YEAH. AND SORRY. GO AHEAD. IN TERMS OF INCLEMENT WEATHER AND WHAT.

SO WHAT PORTS? YOU SAID THREE PORTS, I GUESS.

NEW YORK, ONE OF THEM CHARLESTON. AND THEN WHAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER ONES? PETERSBURG. SAINT PETERSBURG AND CHARLESTON ARE NOT FESTIVAL PORTS, BUT WE WOULD SET UP, LIKE, A DECK TOUR SORT OF THING. AND SOME SPECIAL EVENTS THERE SOME RECEPTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD BAR US FROM TRYING TO GO TO EACH OF THE SAIL, 250 CITIES ALONG THE WAY? A LOT OF IT IS TIMING. SO BALTIMORE IS PRETTY FAR UP THE CHESAPEAKE, CHESAPEAKE BAY.

THEY'RE ALSO A SMALLER PORT. THE VERY, VERY RAPID OF US TO GO UP TO CHESAPEAKE AND THEN TURN AROUND AND COME BACK AND OUT AND GO TO NEW YORK FROM THERE.

WE'RE TALKING FOUR DAYS, AND IT WOULD TAKE AT LEAST A DAY AND A HALF TO GET OUT OF THE CHESAPEAKE, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO BE UNDER POWER TO. YEAH, WE'D BE UNDER POWER MOST OF THE TIME.

SO IT WOULD BE A REALLY QUICK TURNAROUND TO GO TO BALTIMORE AND THEN FLIP AROUND AND GO TO NEW YORK. SO WE'RE KIND OF WEIGHING THAT.

THE OTHER ONE IS BOSTON. THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF NEW YORK.

AND THAT PUTS US ONE MORE WEEK CLOSER TO HURRICANE SEASON.

SO WE HAVE TO BE BACK IN OUR BERTH BY PEAK HURRICANE SEASON.

WE HAVE WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH OUR INSURANCE COMPANY, THE COAST GUARD.

I HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN BERTHING ARRANGEMENTS DOWN RIG.

THERE'S. YEAH, WE'RE WE'D BE BUTTED UP AGAINST.

SO WE WON'T BE THE ONLY SAIL 250 CITY THAT WE'D BE GOING TO IS NEW YORK.

NO. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE IN IN NORFOLK. THERE'S TWO FESTIVALS COINCIDING THAT THAT WEEKEND WITH THE NAVY'S FLEET WEEK.

THERE'S THE NORFOLK FESTIVAL. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ROOM FOR US, BUT PORTSMOUTH, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE WATER FROM THERE THEY'VE GOT 5 OR 6 FERRIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING ALL WEEKEND LONG. WE GET TO PARTICIPATE IN A PARADE.

AND THEN YORKTOWN IS HAVING A FESTIVAL AS WELL, AND THEY'RE MORE OF A HISTORIC PORT FOR I FORGOT WHICH FAMOUS REVOLUTIONARY BATTLE IT WAS, BUT RIGHT THERE WAS LIKE A, THERE'S A HUGE HUGE NAVAL BATTLE THAT HAPPENED THERE WITH THE BRITISH.

YOU KNOW, I, I'M ONLY GOTTEN POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL ON THIS, SO IT'S ON OUR AGENDA.

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AND I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT I COMMEND THE PARK BOARD WORKING OUT THE ARRANGEMENT WITH AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I'M SORRY. DO YOU HAVE ANY HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS GOING THROUGH LET'S SAY INCLEMENT WEATHER GOING THROUGH THE INTRACOASTAL.

YOU'RE TOO TALL. WE'RE WAY TOO TALL FOR THE INTRACOASTAL.

YEAH. NO, YOU'D HIT AIRCRAFT ISSUES. WE'RE LIKE I THINK THE LOWEST BRIDGE THAT WE WOULD I'VE LOOKED AT THIS DOING YACHT DELIVERIES.

THE THERE'S, I THINK THE HIGHEST BRIDGE THAT WE COULD GO UNDER WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE ICW.

THE BRIDGE RESTRICTIONS ARE TYPICALLY 75 76FT ON THE ICW, ON THE EAST COAST AND ON THE GULF COAST IT'S EVEN LOWER.

YEAH. AND WHAT'S YOUR HEIGHT? WE ARE. OUR AIR DRAFT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 120FT.

WOW. YEAH. YOU COULDN'T DO IT. I USED TO ENSURE THE BOAT BEFORE YOU.

OKAY. I WANTED TO ALSO SHARE THE CHERRY ON THE CAKE.

IS THAT ANY REVENUE THAT EXCEEDS EXPENSES? THE INTENT RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M WORKING. WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. WE'RE WORKING ON HAVING THINK OF IT AS A BUSINESS, NOT AS A GOVERNMENT AS ITS PROFIT. AND THERE'D BE A THREE WAY SPLIT.

IT WOULD BE THE GPH GETS A THIRD PARTY PORT, KEEPS A THIRD, AND THE THIRD GOES TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S UNRESTRICTED FUNDS.

AND OUR LOCAL SAYS WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT 5050 WHATEVER WE GET.

CORRECT. SO THEY WOULD BE PAID FIRST IN THE FORM OF A MANAGEMENT FEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I MEAN, HOW COOL IS IT FOR OUR TAXPAYERS TO KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THIS AND PUT SOME MONEY IN THE CITY'S COFFERS.

EXACTLY. DID YOU. COULD YOU SEE THAT? PART OF THAT SPLIT? I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF THE SPLIT WITH GF GOES BACK INTO THE.

ALISSA. I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT ALISSA IS ABOUT.

I MEAN, THE ALISSA BEER IPA AND THE THINGS THAT WHEN WE FUND IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SENDING THE SHIP UP THERE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE MONEY GO BACK INTO THE SHIP FOR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION.

NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO SPEND SOME MONEY FRONT END ON ON, SHOVE OFF AND AND TIE UP WHEN THEY COME BACK FOR CELEBRATION, TOO, I THINK. I THINK THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE ALSO OF SELLING SPONSORSHIPS THAT WANT TO HOST THAT.

YES. IN ANSWER. I'M SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF TELLING THEM THE WAY THAT WHAT THEY SHOULD DO WITH THEIR MONEY, I REALLY DON'T.

BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS NOT TO BE DOCUMENTED, BUT IT IS MY HOPE THAT PART OF IT WOULD HELP SEED OUR NEXT TALL SHIP FESTIVAL HERE, WHICH THEN WE CAN PROMOTE. AND THEY'VE BEEN WILDLY POPULAR IN THE PAST.

YEAH, AND VERY HELPFUL TOO, ECONOMICALLY. BOB AND THEN BEAU FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

I'VE BEEN TOLD BY DUANE THAT JEFF GETS MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT TALL SHIP FESTIVALS THAN ANY OTHER FESTIVAL THEY PUT ON.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT AGAIN? ONE OF THE THINGS GUIDO TOLD ME WHICH IS REALLY WILD, HE SAID THE THREE HIGHEST REVENUE OR HIGHEST GROSSING DAYS OF GUIDO'S RESTAURANT, THE THREE IN THE HISTORY OF GUIDO'S WERE WHEN TALL SHIPS WERE IN TOWN.

YEAH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY THIS TIME. BUT THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, AS I UNDERSTAND, TO HAVE THE EAGLE COME TO GALVESTON AND THE EAGLE AND ALYSSA GO OVER TO SAINT PETERSBURG.

I SPOKE WITH THEIR OPERATIONS DIRECTOR YESTERDAY.

IT'S OFF THE TABLE FOR THEM. THEY HAVE THEY HAVE AN EAST COAST PORT STOP THAT'S GOING TO INTERFERE WITH THEIR SCHEDULE.

AND THEY THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO NEW ORLEANS EVEN.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEW ORLEANS. NEW ORLEANS IS THE FIRST STOP, THE FIRST SOUTHERNMOST STOP ON THE FESTIVAL. WE.

SO THE LAST TIME WE WENT TO NEW ORLEANS WAS IN 2018, AND IT WAS A HUGE NIGHTMARE.

WE HAD TO GET TOWED ALL THE WAY UP THE RIVER. IT'S A ROD.

AND IT'S IT WAS A VERY DANGEROUS TOW. THE CURRENT OUTBOUND WAS REALLY, REALLY STRONG.

AND ALYSSA DOES NOT LIKE TO BE TOWED. NOT TO MENTION SHE'S 149 YEARS OLD AND SHE DOESN'T LIKE TUGBOATS.

ON THE WAY OUT, WE HAD TO DROP ANCHOR, AND WE LOST ONE OF OUR ANCHORS.

IT WAS IT WAS A HUGE HASSLE. AND WE ALL COLLECTIVELY AGREED THAT WE WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO NEW ORLEANS.

THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAD IN 1996, WHEN WE WENT TO NEW ORLEANS WAS THE SKIPPER DRAGGED THE FENCE THAT WAS ON THE DOCK HOOKED THE SHIP ON THE FENCE AND DRAGGED IT OFF.

AND THAT WAS THAT WAS THE ONLY AND THAT WAS THE LAST SKIPPER. LAST TIME I USED THAT SKIPPER, EVERYTHING ELSE WENT REALLY GREAT EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GETTING SICK OVER.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S I WANT TO ALSO POINT OUT THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP, YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS PARTNERSHIP FUNCTIONALLY AS IS IS THE THE PARK BOARD PAYING TO SAIL AND THE PAYING TO GET THE SHIP READY? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE GOING TO DRY DOCK AND THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF OTHER REPAIRS YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE TO GET IT TO GET HER SHIP WORTHY.

AND WHAT IS THAT? JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE. ARE Y'ALL SPENDING ON THAT RIGHT NOW? OUR BUDGET IS ABOUT A $260,000. AND THAT'S JUST A ROUTINE DRY DOCK.

THAT'S DRY DOCK. YEP. ROUTINE. BUT YOU'VE GOT OTHER REPAIRS TO MAKE OUTSIDE OF DRY DOCK.

YES. ONE OF THEM IS WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING OUR MAIN ENGINES OVERHAULED.

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WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME CONTRACTORS TO GET ESTIMATES AND TIMING.

TIMING IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE BIGGER ISSUE WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR MAIN DRIVER THERE. IF TIMING IS TIMING.

WELL, THE MAIN ENGINES THE ENGINES ARE 40 YEARS OLD.

HOW MANY HOURS DO YOU HAVE ON YOU NOW? WE HAVE NO IDEA.

OKAY. AND AND SO THOSE ENGINES WERE DONATED TO US BACK IN THE EARLY 80S.

AND THEY'VE BEEN MAINTAINED BY VOLUNTEERS, BUT THEY NEED SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP.

IT'S FINE FOR DAY SALES AND WE'RE LIKE I SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTRACTORS AND STUFF TO COME IN AND HELP US WITH THAT.

SO THE DRY DOCK WILL HANDLE THE STRUCTURAL PART, YOU KNOW, THE HULL AND ALL THAT.

AND THEY'LL PAINT THE PAINT THE HULL AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE ENGINES.

AND I THINK THE DECK AND SOME OF THE DECK FURNITURE, THE DECK HOUSE, THE GALLEY, I THINK, AND SOME OTHER THINGS. BUT SO JEFF HAS GOT A BIG STAKE IN THIS SIMPLY FROM THE GETTING THE SHIP READY TO GO.

AND THEN THE PARK BOARD IS GOING TO GET THE SHIP THERE AND BACK.

IT'S KIND OF IT'S KIND OF ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. I WANTED TO ALSO, FOR THE RECORD WE THE PARK BOARD ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTED THIS, BY THE WAY, AND I ALSO DO I'VE GOT A LONG HISTORY WITH ALYSSA AND AND I AT THE PARK BOARD.

I WANT TO, FOR THE RECORD, JUST MAKE A STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

AND I DID THE SAME THING AT THE PARK BOARD. SO I BEGAN VOLUNTEERING AS A CREW ABOARD ALYSSA IN 1995, AND IT'S NO EXAGGERATION TO SAY IT CHANGED MY LIFE.

IT LED TO A RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFF, THE OWNER OF THE SHIP, CULMINATING IN SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND HIRING DWAYNE JONES, THE CURRENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. I MADE LIFELONG FRIENDS AND EVEN MET AND MARRIED MY WIFE ABOARD LISA.

IT'S NOT JUST MY LIFE THAT SERVING ABOARD LISA HAS IMPACTED.

IS ANY OF THIS? A VOLUNTEER WILL TELL YOU THE SHIP BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT NOTHING ELSE CAN.

ON THE SHIP, EVERYBODY IS FOCUSED ON SOMETHING FAR BIGGER AND MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEMSELVES. WHILE THEY WORK TOGETHER TO MAINTAIN AND SAIL A RARE 19TH CENTURY CLIPPER SHIP. THIS IS A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE NOT AVAILABLE TO MOST PEOPLE.

MANY TALL SHIPS AROUND THE WORLD ARE USED AS A PLATFORM FOR TEAM TRAINING FOR THIS REASON.

IN FACT, ALYSSA WELCOMED A US ASTRONAUT TEAM WHO TRAINED AND SAILED ON THE SHIP DURING ANNUAL SEA TRIALS, A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK AND DESIGNATED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE AS THE OFFICIAL TALL SHIP OF TEXAS.

ALYSSA IS KNOWN WORLDWIDE AS A MODEL OF TALL SHIP RESTORATION AND SAIL TRAINING IN GALVESTON, IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER. SINCE BEING LAUNCHED IN 1877, ELISSA HAS CALLED ON PORTS AROUND THE WORLD, INCLUDING GALVESTON IN 1883 AND 1886. SHE'S A RARE SURVIVOR OF THE AGE OF SAIL.

MOST OF THEM ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN OR SCRAPPED.

THE STORY OF GALVESTON, TOLD THROUGH THE TALL SHIP, IS A COMPELLING ONE AND SHOULD GO BEYOND HER BERTH AT THE TEXAS SEAPORT MUSEUM.

GALVESTON WAS FOUNDED BASED ON MARITIME TRADE MADE POSSIBLE WITH SHIPS LIKE ELISSA, AND WE'RE BOTH EXTRAORDINARY EXAMPLES OF RESILIENCE, DEDICATION, AND LONGEVITY. ELISSA LAST VISITED NEW YORK ON JULY 4TH, 1986 FOR THE CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY, ALONG WITH A FLOTILLA OF TALL SHIPS OF THE HUNDREDS OF TALL SHIPS FROM AROUND THE WORLD IN NEW YORK HARBOR THAT DAY.

ELISSA WAS THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE VISITED NEW YORK BEFORE THE STATUE OF LIBERTY WAS BUILT.

MANY TALL SHIPS AROUND THE WORLD, INCLUDING THE PRIDE OF BALTIMORE IN MARYLAND AND THE US COAST GUARD TRAINING SHIP EAGLE.

OUR STATE SUPPORTED AMBASSADORS FOR THEIR HOME, TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLD, SPREADING THEIR MESSAGE OF GOODWILL THROUGH THE ALLURE AND SPECTACLE OF A TALL SHIP. ELISSA. THOUGH ALYSSA IS THE TALL SHIP OF TEXAS AND THE ONLY ACTIVE TALL SHIP IN THE GULF, SHE ENJOYS NO SUCH SUPPORT. WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT THE VHF AND THE PARK BOARD RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ELICIT TO OUR ISLAND AND HER POTENTIAL TO CARRY OUR MESSAGE TO THE WORLD.

AND THEY'VE OFFERED THEIR RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I WAS A SAILING CREW MEMBER ABOARD ALYSSA WHEN WE VISITED NEW ORLEANS IN 1995 TO TAKE GALVESTON'S STORY TO A NEW AUDIENCE, WHERE SHE WAS WELL RECEIVED. LIKE MY FORMER ALYSSA CREWMATE AND NOW SPOUSE DID 24 YEARS AGO, A COUPLE WAS MARRIED ABOARD ALYSSA DURING OUR STAY THERE.

SUCH IS THE ALLURE OF A TALL SHIP. IN FACT, NEW ORLEANS IS THE FIRST OF FIVE PORTS TO CALL FOR THE SAIL TALL SHIP TO CALL ON, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES STOPS AT BALTIMORE, NEW YORK AND BOSTON.

BUT THE ONLY TALL SHIP SAILING IN THE GULF, GALVESTON, SHOULD BE ON THAT LIST, AND ALYSSA SHOULD SAIL TO NEW YORK TO HELP CELEBRATE THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FOUNDING OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND ONCE AGAIN, LIKE SHE DID 40 YEARS AGO, REPRESENT GALVESTON AND TAKE HER PLACE AMONG THE TALL SHIPS OF THE WORLD AS ONE OF THE FINEST AND RAREST OF THEM ALL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BOB. LET'S KIND OF WIND THIS DISCUSSION UP, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ALL VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. TWO MORE VERY QUICK THINGS, SIR.

YES, SIR. AND THEN WE HAVE BEAU HAD A QUESTION.

OH, I'M SORRY. BEAU. DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? OH, YEAH. YEAH, I WAS JUST I KNOW THAT I KNOW Y'ALL WANT TO KEEP IT AS HISTORICALLY

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DEFINED AS POSSIBLE AS FAR AS THE SAILS, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY JUST TO GET OUT THERE TO HELP OFFSET COSTS IF WE CAN SELL SPONSORSHIPS TO, LIKE, THE HEAD CELLS WHILE THEY'RE IN PORT.

IS THAT ANY POSSIBILITY? I'M SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

LIKE SELLING, LIKE SPONSORSHIP, PRINTING ON, LIKE, THE HEAD SALES.

SO THAT WE CAN BASICALLY SIGNIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT THE CITY OF GALVESTON COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, JUST TO SHOW WHERE THAT'S FROM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART OF THIS.

I CAN TAKE THAT ONE. IT IS I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE ARE THE PRESENTATION SPONSOR AND WE HAVE THAT SALE. SO IT'S ABOUT GALVESTON, TEXAS, NOT CONOCOPHILLIPS OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

RIGHT. SO SO YES, I THINK THAT I THINK THAT'S A SPONSORSHIP THAT WE WANT TO OWN.

YEAH, I WAS HOPING THAT THAT WE BASICALLY MARKETED OUR COMMUNITY, MARKETED GALVESTON, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S IN IT FOR THE PARK FOR OTHER THAN COMMUNITY PRIDE, WHICH IS ALSO THE PARK FOR.

BUT IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SHARE IS THE AVID TALL SHIP PERSON IS FAR MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN THE TYPICAL GALVESTON TOURIST.

IT TYPICALLY IS IS MORE WEALTHY WHEN THEY TRAVEL.

THEY TRAVEL FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME AND THEY SPEND MORE MONEY WHEN THEY TRAVEL.

IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGED WITH AND IT'S MORE INTERNATIONALLY RELATED.

IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGED WITH AS WE TRY TO SHIP SOME OF OUR TOURISTS TO MORE LONG TERM STAY AND LESS DAY TRIP.

AS AN EXAMPLE. IT'S IT'S FAR DIFFERENT. AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, BECAUSE I KNOW WE NEED TO WRAP IT UP, IS I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY COOL THAT LITTLE GALVESTON IS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PULL OFF WORLD CUP 26, FIFA AND THIS IN THE SAME YEAR. AND WE'RE LITTLE, BUT WE'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THIS STUFF DONE.

WE'RE PUTTING GALVESTON ON THE MAP AND HOPEFULLY IN WAYS THAT IT'S NEVER BEEN BEFORE.

ANYWAY, I'LL REST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARTY.

LET'S WRAP THIS UP. BRIEF COMMENTS. ALEX. I WASN'T MINE.

MINE IS MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS MARTY WITH STAFFING.

THIS IS. WE GOT FIFA. WE HAVE TALL SHIP, AND WE HAVE GUESSES ALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGH SEASON.

IS THAT GOING TO BE ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OF STAFFING AND GETTING THE REGULAR THINGS DAY TO DAY IS ACCOMPLISHED ALONG WITH SIDE FIFA? YOU READ MY MIND. WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE ELT EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM MEETING EVERY MONDAY.

AND LAST MONDAY I HAD HAD TO BREAK THE NEWS TO OUR TEAM THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, THAT WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DO THIS ON OUR OWN, AND THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR HELP AND SUPPORT FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE INSIDE, FROM PROMOTIONS, FROM BANDWIDTH, FROM EXPERTISE. YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, I TOLD YOU EARLIER, THESE TICKETS COULD GO FROM 25 TO $40,000.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PICK WHAT THE NUMBER IS. HOW DO YOU SELL THEM? RIGHT. RIGHT. ALL OF THE ABOVE. SO YES, WE ARE GOING TO BE ACTIVELY AS PART OF OUR, OUR MONEY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO TRY WE'RE GOING TO ADD A RESOURCE, PROBABLY A CONSULTANT TYPE CONTRACT.

ALSO, WILL'S TEAM HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY NEED SOME SUPPORT, AND YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON ADDING AS WELL.

YEAH, WE'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF IT, OF LOOKING TO BRING IN SOMEONE THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH ALYSSA THAT CAN ASSIST WITH A LOT OF THE APPEARANCE LOGISTICS.

THE EVERY PLACE YOU GO HAS A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES AND REGULATIONS AND WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN OR WHAT CAN HAPPEN.

AND THAT EVEN GOES DOWN TO THE SHIP FOR FUEL AND WASTE AND PROVISIONS AND ALL OF THAT.

IT'S A DEDICATED EFFORT ON ITS OWN, AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED WITH ALYSSA FOR A LONG TIME THAT ARE INTERESTED IN POTENTIALLY STEPPING UP FOR THAT. SO THAT'S IN THE PROCESS.

SHOULD HAVE MORE ON THAT HERE PRETTY QUICK. OKAY.

BEAU YOU HAD MORE QUESTIONS? YEAH, I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MARTY, I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT.

IT'S JUST MORE OF A COST PERCEPTION. AND THE MORE WE CAN EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE AND HOW THIS WILL SELL THE ISLAND AND AND BASICALLY EDUCATING WHY WE POTENTIALLY COULD SPEND 700,000, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S AN INCOME OPPORTUNITY. AND JUST EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AND GETTING THAT OUT THERE AND BEING TRANSPARENT OF WHAT THE PLAN IS AND WHY, I THINK IT'S A BIG, YOU KNOW, A BIG THING TO DO.

I KNOW IT'S IT'S WHAT WAS CONCERNING IS BECAUSE, LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S JUST OKAY.

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HEY, PARK BOARD IS SPENDING 750,000, AND IT'S MORE OF A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN PARK BOARD, CITY OF GALVESTON AND THE GALVESTON HISTORIC FOUNDATION WITH A VERY BIG OPPORTUNITY TO BASICALLY SPREAD THE WORD OF WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT GALVESTON. BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE WE HAVE TO MAKE THE MOST OF THAT, NOT ONLY EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT THE PLAN IS AND WHY AND HOW WE CAN BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNT FOR WHAT'S OUR RETURN OR EXPECTED RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE EVERYBODY OUT THERE SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE JUST THROWING MONEY OUT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT KEEPING IT AT HOME AND FIXING THINGS WE NEED TO FIX HERE.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT I WANTED TO GET OUT THERE, BECAUSE I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, ESPECIALLY AFTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE PURPOSE WOULD BE.

AND AND IT'S IT'S A HELL OF AN OPPORTUNITY. TERRIFIC.

AND THANK YOU. AND I CAN I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE WILL WORK EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS STORY IS TOLD AND TOLD ACCURATELY.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MARTY. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW, IT IS 1055.

I'M GOING TO TAKE A BREAK. WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1105.

GOOD MORNING. WE'RE BACK AGAIN. FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE WATCHING OUR WORKSHOP FOR JANUARY 22ND HERE AT THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

WE TOOK A BREAK, AND WE ARE NOW MOVING TO ITEM THREE C, PLEASE.

[3.C. Discussion of a Cost of Living Increase for Civilian Employees and Related Budget Amendment (C. Ludanyi/C. Brown - 20 min)]

ITEM THREE C, DISCUSSION OF A COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES AND RELATED BUDGET AMENDMENT.

VERY GOOD. THIS IS ITEM TEN, A COUNCIL ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SHEILA.

SHEILA. SO THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS COMING OUT OF THE DISCUSSION THAT COUNCIL HAD IN DECEMBER REGARDING TOLL INCREASES.

AND SPECIFICALLY COUNCIL CAME OUT OF THAT DISCUSSION.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT DAN WAS SITTING IN FOR BRIAN, THAT NEITHER DAN OR I HAD COMPLETE CLARITY ON WHETHER THE COUNCIL WAS LOOKING AT 2% OR 2.5%. THE WAY THIS ORDINANCE IS PRESENTED, IT IS AT THE 2.5%.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

THIS IS A FROM DISCUSSION, AS SHEILA MENTIONED AT EARLIER MEETINGS.

AND THIS IS FOR THE 2.5% THAT IS PRESENTED TO US FOR A COLA INCREASE FOR ALL STAFF MEMBERS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL STAFF MEMBERS, ALL CIVILIAN STAFF MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. WAIT, WHAT? OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID A BILLION STAFF MEMBERS. LIKE, WHOA, YEAH, I KNOW ALL CIVILIAN STAFF MEMBERS AND THIS WILL BE FOR A VOTE THIS AFTERNOON. AT OUR MEETING. LET'S OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

YES, BOB. AS I UNDERSTAND FROM OUR LAST DISCUSSION ON THIS, THIS THIS WAS IN PART MADE POSSIBLE BY AN INCREASE IN THE SALES TAX AMOUNT THAT WE HAD BUDGETED PREVIOUSLY. IS THAT CORRECT? SO SALES TAX IS CURRENTLY AHEAD OF WHERE WE PROJECTED IT TO BE BY IN THE RANGE OF $250,000. THAT'S PRELIMINARY RIGHT. WE'VE GOT TWO MONTHS OUT OF 12.

SO WE WOULD WANT TO SUSTAIN THAT. AND AT THIS POINT WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T GUARANTEE WHAT THE NEXT TEN MONTHS LOOKS LIKE.

BUT RIGHT NOW SALES TAX IS AHEAD OF WHERE WE BUDGETED IT CORRECT.

SO THAT'S IN PART HELPING TO FUND IT. AND WHAT ELSE.

SO WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ANY SPECIFIC REVENUE SOURCES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO THIS.

THIS WILL BE COMING OUT OF FUND BALANCE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.

WE ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF REVENUE TO OFFSET THIS AS THE YEAR GOES ON.

THERE ARE REVENUE SOURCES LIKE LONG TERM PARKING AND CRUISE PASSENGERS, THAT ARE LIKELY TO COME IN A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WE PROJECTED SINCE AS BOTH OF THOSE REVENUE STREAMS ARE EARLY IN THEIR HISTORICAL TREND, WE TEND TO BUDGET MORE CONSERVATIVELY.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE AREAS BETWEEN SALES TAX AND THOSE TWO.

WE FEEL LIKE THIS WILL BE FUNDED IN THE GENERAL FUND. OBVIOUSLY THE OTHER FUNDS WATER, SEWER AIRPORT SANITATION, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WILL BE FUNDED BY THEIR OWN REVENUE STREAMS. AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S FUNDING THERE PERFORMING TO.

YES. YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW, THE THE TWO BIG EVENTS WE JUST GOT THROUGH TALKING ABOUT SALES AND FIFA WOULD HELP SUPPORT SALES TAX AT LEAST I WOULD THINK.

ABSOLUTELY. WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THEY WILL.

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VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALEX.

SO I STILL WOULD LIKE AT LEAST COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON THE DECISION TO EXCLUDE THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES.

GIVEN THE FACT THAT LAST YEAR WE WERE TOLD THAT MOST OF THE ALL THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES DID NOT WANT A RAISE.

THEY PREFERRED IT TO GO TO THE EMPLOYEES DOWN THE ROAD.

I GUESS UNDERNEATH THEM AND THEY GOT A 5% RAISE BECAUSE OF A POLICY.

SO I'D LIKE AT LEAST COUNCIL TO JUST REMEMBER THAT AND MAYBE THINK ABOUT REMOVING THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES FROM THE DISCUSSION FOR A COLA. YES, SIR. ON THAT POINT, DO WE HAVE WRITTEN CONFIRMATION THAT ALL COUNCIL APPOINTEES ARE WILLING TO ABIDE TO AGREE TO THAT? I MEAN, LAST. WE COULD TRY TO, I MEAN, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE GOT LAST TIME FOR DURING EVALUATIONS. THAT WAS NOT MY RECOLLECTION, DEALING VISITING WITH OUR COUNCIL APPOINTEES, BUT WELL, ACTUALLY, YOU HAD REFERENCED AN ORDINANCE, AND THERE IS NO SUCH ORDINANCE SAYING THAT IF THE STAFF IS GIVEN AN INCREASE, THAT ALL EMPLOYEES MUST GET AN INCREASE.

YEAH. THERE'S NO ORDINANCE TO THAT. THERE WAS POLICY, BUT IT WAS MENTIONED IN POLICY.

THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. I DON'T THINK WE COULD EVER DOCUMENT THAT, COULD WE? JANELLE WE NEVER DID DOCUMENT THAT THERE WAS ANY BECAUSE JANELLE AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT.

WELL, THEN AND FIND ANYTHING AND AGAIN FOR THE FUTURE YOU KNOW, A SALARY, SOMEONE WHO'S ON A SALARY OR A TWO AND A HALF OR 5% OR WHATEVER INCREASE IS HIGHER.

I MEAN INCREASES. PERCENTAGES ARE BIGGER ON LARGER NUMBERS.

AND WE'VE GOT WHAT WE GOT IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PAY OUR STAFF. BUT THE NEXT DECISION FOR.

AND AGAIN, THIS COUNCIL, NEXT COUNCIL, PERHAPS I WANT TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE GUYS THAT ARE MAKING, YOU KNOW, OUR MINIMUM WAGE TO, YOU KNOW, $30 AN HOUR GETTING THEM A A BETTER INCREASE FOR GOING FORWARD.

I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE MORE MEANINGFUL THAN A PERCENTAGE BASED.

SO THAT'S MY MY $0.02 ON I HAVE SHARON AND THEN MARIE THAT.

I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. AND MAKE SURE THAT I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY OR UNDERSTOOD IT.

OKAY. AND YOU REFERENCED A LAST RAISE, AND YOU REFERENCED AN AMOUNT OF 200 AND SOMETHING A PERSON WHO WOULD MAKE 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND. YOU JUST SAID THEIR INCREASE WOULD BE BETTER THAN ONE WHO WOULD MAKE LESS ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS.

THE ON THE SOMEONE MAKING. YEAH. OKAY. 80 TO 180 TO TOP WOULD BE MAKING MORE THAN THE GUY, YOU KNOW $30 AN HOUR. OKAY, THEN I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THAT PERSON WITH THE APPOINTEES.

CORRECT. NO, I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THAT EMPLOYEE WITH APPOINTEES BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERENCING THE APPOINTEES.

THE APPOINTEES WERE KEEPING THE EXCLUDING THE APPOINTEES FROM A COLA.

OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. AND YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER THERE AND HOW THERE 2.5, THEY WOULD GET MORE THE INCREASE THAN SOMEONE LESS. SO IN YOUR APPOINTEES. WHAT'S THE BOTTOM SALARY THERE? WHAT'S THE LOWEST SALARY IN THE APPOINTEES GROUP? IT'S. IT'S 167. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE LOWEST ONE.

50 MAYBE. I THINK 148 JANELLE THE LOWEST. ALL RIGHT.

I WAS JUST I WAS ASKING THAT TO SEE IF THAT REALLY IF IT MADE SENSE TO ME WHEN WE REFERENCE SALARIES.

AND I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REFERENCE SALARIES IN THIS INCREASE, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, IF YOU MAKE 250, YOUR INCREASE IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN THE ONE WHO MAKES THE 150 OR WHATEVER.

SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REFERENCE NUMBERS HERE.

NUMBER TWO, CAN WE EVENTUALLY GET SOME KIND OF COMPARISON LIKE WE DID FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE, FOR THOSE WHO MAKE LESS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE COMPARISON TO THEIR $30 AN HOUR OR TO THEIR $20 AN HOUR.

CAN WE LOOK AT THAT LATER DOWN THE BEAU MEAN, PERSONALLY, WE NEED TO DO WE NEED TO DO A MARKET STUDY OF ALL OF OUR

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EMPLOYEES. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MARKET STUDY OF, OF, OF ALL EMPLOYEES.

AND I WAS TRYING TO CHART COLA VERSUS A RAISE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE SIX EMPLOYEES, AREN'T THEY RATED OR SOME KIND OF EVALUATION THAT GIVES THEM AN INCREASE.

AND I FIND THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE COLA. THEY DO NOT.

THEY FALL UNDER THE SAME STANDARDS, OUR COUNCIL APPOINTEES AS THE REGULAR EMPLOYEES.

THE ONLY BENEFIT THEY WOULD GET ON AN INCREASE IN SALARY WOULD BE COLA.

BUT IN OUR EVALUATION, DON'T WE DETERMINE THAT THEY CAN HAVE AN INCREASE? WE COULD, SINCE THEY ARE UNDER. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO THE COLA IS A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT.

THAT WOULD BE FOR ALL I WOULD THINK. YES, I WOULD THINK WOULD BE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

ALL. CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. SO I'M JUST WONDERING I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT ARE WE CONTEMPLATING EXCLUDING THE APPOINTEES? THE APPOINTEES? THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. THAT'S WHAT I'M.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. AND IT'S BECAUSE.

WHY, WHEN WE WERE. MAYBE THE MAYOR DOESN'T RECOLLECT IT THE SAME WAY I DO.

BUT MOST OF THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES, AND I BELIEVE IT'S ALL THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES.

MY MEMORY SERVES ME PRETTY GOOD STILL. WAS THAT THEY WERE MORE CONCERNED THAT THEIR STAFF GOT THE AND THE REST OF THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES GOT THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT.

AND THIS WAS IN FISCAL YEAR 25, AND THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES ALL RECEIVED A 5% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, SOME OF THEM TO THEIR SURPRISE, BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL SAID IN THE EVALUATIONS THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO SEEK A RAISE FOR.

THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT, RAISE, SEEK OR ACCEPT.

I DON'T REMEMBER I WAS SEEKING FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT I AM REMEMBERING.

THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR STAFF GOT PAID, SO THEY GOT A 5% RAISE AND THAT'S GOOD FOR THEM.

BUT THE WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO ME IS THE GUYS THAT ARE DIGGING THE DITCHES, THOSE ARE THE GUYS THAT DESERVE A RAISE.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANT ME TO REFERENCE SALARIES, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A GUY MAKING $1,520 AN HOUR.

A 5 OR 5%. 2.5% RAISE. STILL NOT AS MUCH AS A GUY MAKING OR LADY MAKING $100,000.

AND THAT'S NOT TO PICK A PICK AT ANYONE. THAT'S JUST A FEATURE OF PERCENTAGES WHEN WE GO UP ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS.

RIGHT. BUT I WAS ONLY REFERENCING THAT FOR YOUR FOR OUR APPOINTEES, NOT COMPARING THEM TO TO OTHERS. I'M NOT. SO YOU'RE 30. THAT'S NOT A COMPARISON TO ME.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING EVENTUALLY IF WE COULD DO A MARKET STUDY ON THAT.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T RIGHT NOW DON'T AGREE WITH NOT GIVING THAT TO APPOINTEES AS WELL. SO YOU KEEP TALKING AND I'LL SEE IF I CHANGE MY MIND.

WE HAVE MARIE AND THEN BOB AND THEN DAVID. MY MY QUESTION WOULD BE, DID SHEILA.

SO WHAT IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE APPOINTEES AND SAY THE VERY TOP LEVEL MANAGEMENT, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GIVE A 3% COST OF LIVING? NO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH IN THAT SMALL CONTINGENT.

WHAT'S THE NUMBER? I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT I'M TALKING ASIDE FROM APPOINTEES.

I'M TALKING TOP MANAGEMENT. WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN, TOP LEVEL? SO IN THE NUMBERS WE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD CATEGORY AS THE DELINEATION AND EVEN I DIDN'T BRING THAT STUFF WITH ME RIGHT NOW.

I CAN I CAN PROVIDE COUNCIL SOMETHING THIS AFTERNOON ON WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS, BUT EVEN THAT AMOUNT WAS NOT ENOUGH TO ADD A HALF A PERCENT.

SO. ALL RIGHT, BOB JUST FROM A HR PROCEDURE PROCESS PERSPECTIVE, AS I UNDERSTAND,

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THE CITY DOESN'T DO MERIT BASED RAISES. IN OTHER WORDS, WE DO THE EVALUATIONS FOR THE FOR THE APPOINTEES, BUT THOSE ARE NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING INCREASED SALARIES OR ANYTHING.

IT'S BASED ON ON MARKET RATES AND COLA. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. SO THE ONLY ADJUSTMENTS WE MAKE ARE COLA ADJUSTMENTS, UNLESS THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE ACTUAL JOB DUTIES, IN WHICH CASE IT'S EVALUATED AT THE MARKET LEVELS.

AND SO THERE'S NOT ANOTHER MECHANISM TO INCREASE AN EMPLOYEE SALARY OUTSIDE OF THOSE TWO THAT I'M AWARE OF.

SOME PLACES I'VE WORKED BEFORE. THEY DO MARKET.

I MEAN, THEY DO MERIT BASED RAISES BASED ON VALUATIONS AND EVERYTHING.

SO I MEAN, I MEAN, THE REASON FOR THAT IS YOU DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS TO BE ARBITRARY.

IT HAS TO HAS TO HAVE PROCEDURES AND PROCESSES THAT MAKE EVERYTHING EQUITABLE.

AND SHARON TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO SEE THE MARKET ANALYSIS FOR COUNCIL FOR STAFF.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT MARKET ANALYSIS, SEE WHERE WE STAND FOR APPOINTEES AND STAFF JUST TO SEE WHERE WE STAND.

AND, YOU KNOW, COMPARE IT TO THE MARKET. SURE.

I BELIEVE IN THE PREVIOUS MARKET STUDIES, APPOINTEES WERE THOSE POSITIONS WERE ALSO INCLUDED.

SO WE WOULDN'T NOT INCLUDE THOSE POSITIONS. YEAH.

AND THEN BASE OUR RAISES ON THE MARKET STUDIES, I GUESS.

REALLY, IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF. BEVERLY WEST, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

SO I'M JUST UP HERE I GUESS IT WAS CLARIFICATION, MORE OF OUR PROCESS FOR FOR GIVING RAISES.

AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE OBSERVATION THAT WE BASE IT ON COMPARISON TO MARKET RATES SO WE CAN KEEP OUR GOOD EMPLOYEES.

RIGHT. AND AND COLA AND NOT MERIT BASED. THAT'S CORRECT.

WE DON'T HAVE MERIT BASED RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE IN THE PAST GIVEN RAISES OTHER THAN COMPARISON OR COST. DON'T KNOW WE HAVE. AND THAT SALARY YOU SHOWED ME, IT STATED THAT.

YEAH. OR THAT WAS SENT OUT TO EVERY NOW THERE ARE PAY INCREASES AND THAT'S WHERE WE WHAT WE GENERALLY LOOK AT IS IF YOU ADD JOB DUTIES, IF YOU CHANGE THE POSITION, YOU INCREASE JOB DUTIES, THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK BACK AT THE MARKET AGAIN.

IS THIS JOB DESCRIPTION. ARE WE PAYING THEM APPROPRIATELY FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BOB. WELL, I, I THINK THE MAIN THING HERE IS THAT WE WANT TO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP GOOD EMPLOYEES, AND TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE. AND TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE MARKET.

YES. AND HIRING THE GOOD, KEEPING THE EMPLOYEES WE HAVE AND ALSO HIRING, BEING COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET SO WE CAN ATTRACT EMPLOYEES TO COME WORK FOR US.

YEAH. RIGHT. SO SO THE PROCESS IS NOT ARBITRARY.

DAVID. SHEILA. SO I SEE CLEARLY IN YOUR ATTACHMENT TO YOUR BUDGET, AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, WHERE YOU ARE TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM SURPLUS REVENUE FUNDS OVER INTO THE COLA.

AND THIS KIND OF PERMIT ME TO ASK KIND OF A RELATED QUESTION.

DID WE GET BACK? NO, SORRY. WE STRUCK THAT, DIDN'T WE, ON AUDIT STUFF? YEAH. NEVER MIND. I WON'T GO THERE. SO I GUESS MY LARGER QUESTION IS, IS THAT DOES THIS.

I CAN'T SEE IF THIS HAS ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT TO OUR OVERALL RESERVES.

NUMBER OF DAYS RESERVES THAT WE HAVE. SO IN THEORY, IF WE DID NOT HAVE ANY OF THE REVENUE INCREASES THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO HAVE, THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY DECREASE FUND BALANCE BY A DAY, A DAY AND A HALF.

WE BELIEVE WE'LL MAKE UP THIS DIFFERENCE IN REVENUE INCREASES, BUT THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE FUND BALANCE INCREASES.

IF FOR SOME REASON THE REVENUES DID NOT COME TO PASS, AND WHAT WOULD THAT LEAVE US AT? IT WOULD LEAVE US RIGHT AT ABOUT 108 DAYS. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE A JUST A POINT.

THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE WE'RE MISSING IN TERMS OF COLLECTING LONG TERM PARKING, THAT I'M PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT WE CAN ADDRESS.

IT'S AN ISLAND WIDE ISSUE. YEAH, I AGREE. I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON THIS SUBJECT.

OVER THE YEARS, OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES OF COURSE, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE THE BENEFIT OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AS OUR FIRE AND POLICE HAVE.

AND SO OVER THE YEARS OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES REALLY HAVE NOT BEEN SUPPORTED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, AS THEY HAVE PUT IN YEARS AND YEARS HERE IN THE CITY.

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AND I THINK A COLA INCREASE COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THE BOARD IS THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.

2.5%, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATS COMING OUT NOW DOESN'T EVEN COST COVER INFLATION COSTS FOR THIS YEAR OR FOR JUST LIVING OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I THINK 2.5% IS A STEP FORWARD ON THIS. I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE A MARKET STUDY.

BEVERLY, OF ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, IF WE CAN, ON MAINTAINING GOOD QUALITY EMPLOYEES HERE AT THE CITY.

AND THAT ONE OF THOSE KEY FACTORS IS HAVING A SALARY THAT IS COMPETITIVE WITH THE WITH THE MARKET AND WITH THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE. I LOOK AT A COLA INCREASE ALSO AS A REWARD FOR PRODUCTIVITY OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DEDICATION TO THE CITY. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS BEEN PROMOTED AND WORKED DILIGENTLY TO MOVE TOWARDS A DIRECTOR STATUS OR SOMETHING, THEY SHOULDN'T BE PENALIZED AND SAYING, WELL, THEY DON'T DESERVE A COLA OR A COST OF LIVING INCREASE BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THOSE ARE HIGHER, HIGHER SALARIED INDIVIDUALS, THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF TRAINING.

I'M GOING TO TAKE JANELLE AS AN EXAMPLE. SHE'S PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS OF TRAINING AND GETTING CERTIFICATION TO CONTINUE TO BE BETTER AND REPRESENT THIS CITY BETTER. AND NOW TO SAY, WELL, YOU DON'T GET A COLA OR A COST OF LIVING INCREASE JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE WORKED YOUR WAY UP TO A STATUS THAT IS FINANCIALLY MORE THAN SOME.

I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I THINK THIS SHOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES TO TELL THEM.

THANK YOU. WE UNDERSTAND YOUR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO THIS CITY.

WE WOULD LIKE TO REWARD YOU AND THEN LOOK AT A MARKET STUDY TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A STRUCTURE APPROACH IN THE FUTURE.

HOW MUCH WOULD A MARKET STUDY COST? ISLAND WIDE.

SO WE'RE TALKING ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEE WIDE MARKET RFP I'D SAY ABOUT.

WELL. YEAH. THE POLICE AND FIRE KIND OF DO THAT AS THEY GO THROUGH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? WE'LL HAVE THIS ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON.

VERY GOOD. LET'S. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEVERLY LET'S MOVE TO ITEM THREE, PLEASE, MA'AM.

[3.E. Discussion of Joint Wharves Board/City Council Real Estate Committee Recommendations Regarding the Joint Wharves Board/City Council Mobility/Transportation RFQ (Finklea/B. Brown - 20 min)]

ITEM THREE, DISCUSSION OF JOINT WHARVES BOARD, CITY COUNCIL, REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE JOINT WHARVES BOARD, CITY COUNCIL MOBILITY, TRANSPORTATION, RFQ COUNCIL MEMBER FINKLEA AND COUNCILMAN BROWN.

I'M GOING TO LET BOB GO FIRST. OKAY. WELL, IN OUR LAST JOINT BOARD CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE WE DISCUSSED THIS AND THE DIRECTION THAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS ASSIGNED THE JOB OF DEVELOPING A STRATEGY TO GET THIS JOINT MOBILITY PLAN GOING.

AND TO THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE JOINT COMMITTEE BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE AND WITH WITH DAVID'S HELP, DAVID IS NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN DEVELOPING THIS STRATEGY WAS TO DETERMINE THAT WE NEEDED THE ASSISTANCE OF SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP AN RFQ, BECAUSE THAT WAS ANOTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE JOINT MEETING WAS DEVELOPING AN RFQ FOR JOINT MOBILITY STUDY, A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, JUST TO GET THE MOST QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS TO DO THIS.

BUT SO WE WE DEVELOPED A, AN OUTLINE SCOPE OF WORK ABOUT WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PORT'S PERSPECTIVE AND FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE. AND WE SENT THAT TO ROGER REES.

AND, WE ASKED HIM TO AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO GIVE THAT TO THEIR THEIR PROFESSIONALS.

IN THIS CASE, IT WAS BA THEIR MASTER PLAN ENGINEER, ALONG WITH THEIR TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND LET'S MEET AND DISCUSS HOW WE MIGHT GET THIS, TURNED THIS INTO THIS THIS DRAFT SCOPE OF WORK INTO AN RFQ, A JOINT RFQ. SO WE DID THAT. THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE MET WITH MET WITH ROGER AND THE CONSULTANTS BA AND THEIR TRANSPORTATION GUY.

AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THERE, AND DAVID WAS THERE AND WE DISCUSSED, WE DISCUSSED THIS RFQ AND HOW IT WOULD WORK AND AGREED ON THAT DRAFT SCOPE OF WORK.

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AND THEN OUT OF THAT MEETING WE DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS DECEMBER 17TH MEETING.

I THINK THAT THAT THE PERSPECTIVE WAS BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL PURCHASING DEPARTMENTS WOULD TAKE THIS SCOPE OF WORK AND AND, AND THE AND THE BAS COMMENTS. AND THERE ARE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEES COMMENTS AND DEVELOP AN RFQ JOINTLY FOR APPROVAL FOR THE WATER BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THAT. YOU NOTICE ACCORDING TO STANDARD PROCUREMENT PRACTICES.

OKAY. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT'S PROCEDURALLY WHERE WE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THE RFQ TO BE DRAFTED. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

AND WE HAD GOOD FEEDBACK FROM BAS ENGINEERS. THEY ADDED TWO KEY POINTS FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE STUDY.

AND SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DRAFTED AS WELL.

AND THE PORT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER ON THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SAID THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL INTEREST FROM ROYAL CARIBBEAN TO HAVE ANOTHER SHIP HERE, WHICH THAT MEANS ANOTHER TERMINAL.

SO THEY WANT TO MOVE QUICKLY ON THIS, AND I WANT TO I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WHEN WE DO THE STUDY, THE WHOLE OUTCOME OF THAT IS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH HELP IMPROVE MOBILITY FOR ALL OF US, ALL THE PEOPLE HERE ON THE ISLAND, NOT JUST ON THE PORT.

THE PROPERTY MANAGED BY THE PORT. FURTHERMORE, THOSE PROJECTS SHOULD BE FUNDED AND STARTED PRIOR TO ANYTHING GOING ON WITH AN ADDITIONAL TERMINAL. AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE WE TRIED TO GO THROUGH THIS LAST TIME.

AND IF YOU RECALL, I ASKED FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXPANSION OF TERMINAL 16, AND WE WERE ALL SITTING HERE BACK IN 2024 AND THEY SAID, YES, WE'RE GOING TO GET IT STARTED.

THEY ARE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY DID NOT START IT IMMEDIATELY.

AND IT WASN'T UNTIL WE ASKED AGAIN THAT THEY STARTED IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH.

SO THE PURPOSE OF A TRAFFIC STUDY IS NOT JUST TO HAVE IT SIT ON THE SHELF.

IT IS FOR DEVELOPING A SET OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

YOU WANT TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING, SO YOU DON'T PUT THAT ADDITIONAL.

YOU HELP TO MITIGATE THAT BURDEN. SO THANK YOU.

COULD I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE MOBILITY STUDY AND THE RFQ.

DOES WE'VE GOT SOME ITEMS CONCERNING DOWNTOWN PARKING AND AND SO FORTH.

WILL THIS STUDY THERE, WILL THAT TAKE IN SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING FOR DOWNTOWN? YEAH. YOU KNOW, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS IT WAS CLEAR.

I'VE ALREADY AGREED TO THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS STUDY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE WATERFRONT UP THERE, ALL THE WAY BACK TO CHURCH STREET FROM 33RD, WHERE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IS DOWN TO 10TH, WITH THE LAST EASTERNMOST CRUISE SHIP TERMINAL IS THAT INCLUDES DOWNTOWN. AND THAT'S THERE'S A HUGE IMPACT ON DOWNTOWN FOR THE CRUISE SHIP OPERATIONS.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY'S STAKE IN THAT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE WORKFORCE STAKE IS WHAT HAPPENS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT STRATEGIES THEY'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED, ALREADY DONE STUDIES AND HAVE STRATEGIES FOR CONTROLLING TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY THERE.

BUT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON DOWNTOWN THAT NEEDS SOME HELP.

SO WE CAN COORDINATE ALL THAT AND MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYBODY.

AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THESE PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO EVER COMPLETELY SOLVE DOWNTOWN'S MOBILITY OR PARKING PROBLEMS, BUT WE SURE CAN MAKE IT BETTER. I THINK THERE'S A LOT THERE'S A LOT. IN FACT, THERE'S A LOT OF TOOLS OUT THERE.

I'VE DISCOVERED SINCE WORKING ON THIS THAT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF YET IN TERMS OF SMART TRAFFIC CONTROL AND SMART PARKING CONTROL AND SMART MOBILITY. A LOT OF TOOLS OUT THERE THAT I THINK MIGHT HELP US, AS WELL AS LOOK PRETTY CLOSELY AT THIS WHOLE PARKING SITUATION DOWNTOWN.

AND BECAUSE MOBILE PARKING IS PART OF MOBILITY, RIGHT? YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND, EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO PARK THAT CAR SOMEWHERE.

SO I THINK WE GOT TO WE GOT TO THIS IS WHY I THINK THESE TWO STUDIES ARE RELATED.

AND WE GOT TO BE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE CITY'S ISSUES ALONG WITH THE SPORT ISSUES AND MOBILITY.

YEAH, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME COORDINATION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR BETWEEN WHAT BRANDON COOK DESCRIBED EARLIER WITH THAT STUDY, WITH WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO CRAFT AN RFP OR RFQ FOR THIS MOBILITY STUDY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PORT.

THE EXTENT OF THE PARKING TO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS LIMITED BECAUSE THAT IN ITSELF IS,

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IS IS A WHOLE NOTHER, WHOLE NOTHER STUDY. AND THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THIS.

THE PORT FELT AS IF THEY DID NOT HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDS IN ORDER TO HANDLE A VERY LARGE PARKING COMPONENT TO THAT STUDY, SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE RESPONSE IS.

WE DID WANT TO HAVE SOME INPUT ASSOCIATED WITH EITHER IDENTIFYING KEY ISSUES, WHETHER IT BE REVENUE ENFORCEMENT, ETC. JUST TELL US WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND MAYBE LATER, LATER DOWN THE ROAD ON SEPARATE EFFORT, WE COME UP WITH PRODUCING A SET OF IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT, BUT WE'LL TOUCH ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT A BIG PART OF IT.

BEAU HAD TO COMMENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME DOING THIS, BUT ISN'T THIS A COUNCIL QUALIFICATION? I MEAN, IF YOU IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT Y'ALL WERE DESCRIBING WHAT NEEDED TO BE IN THE RFQ WORDING, WHEN TO ME, I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ALL OF COUNCIL.

IT'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL. I KNOW WHY. I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE TO BE DONE AT THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE OVER AT THE BOARD, BECAUSE THE WARS BOARD WAS TAKING ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PERFORMING MOBILITY STUDY, NOT THE CITY, NOT TRAFFIC. IT WAS MOBILITY OF PEOPLE. I SAID ON THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.

AND NOW IT'S BLOSSOMED INTO A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT.

I MEAN, I GOT STUCK IN HOUSTON AT A TPC MEETING, SO I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS REALLY IT HAS NOT IT HAS NOT. NOW, I MEAN, FOR US TO GO AND YOU JUST SAY TRAFFIC.

IF YOU'RE ONLY STUDYING SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLE OR BUS MOVEMENTS, ABSENT OF PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS OR OTHER MODES, YOU'RE ONLY GETTING A PORTION OF THE ANSWER. WELL, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE AND MOVING PEOPLE, AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT. WHAT ONLY COMPONENTS THAT WE ADDED WERE THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BA FROM THEIR ENGINEERS AND THEN LIMITING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING.

WE DIDN'T BLOSSOM INTO ANYTHING. WE WERE JUST LISTENING TO WHAT BA SUGGESTED US TO DO.

WELL, YEAH, WE DID HAVE PARKING INCLUDED IN THERE.

THEY THEY SAW EVERYTHING. THEY COMMENTED ON EVERYTHING.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PARKING PROBLEM DOWNTOWN, BUT PARKING IS PART OF MOBILITY.

AND I'M HOPING WHAT WE GET OUT OF THIS, THIS STUDY FOR, FOR THAT ASPECT OF IT IS SOME ANALYSIS OF BEST PRACTICES, SOME DATA, FIRST OF ALL, LIKE HOW MANY PLACES DO WE HAVE DOWNTOWN? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PLACES. IT'S A CURVE. DO WE HAVE HOW MANY PLACES IN GARAGES? IS IT EMPTY ALL THE TIME? HOW MANY PRIVATE PARKING LOTS DO WE HAVE? WHAT'S WHAT'S THERE AVAILABLE FOR ALL THESE CARS THAT ARE MOVING AROUND RIGHT THERE? SO AT LEAST WE GET SOME DATA AND A STARTING POINT AND SOME BEST PRACTICES.

AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK IN THE END, I'LL REFER BACK TO A CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THE $24 MILLION FOR LIVABLE COMMUNITIES.

WHEN WE WHEN WE LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR SHOVEL READY PROJECTS, IT GETS FUNDED.

SO BY DOING SO, BY DOING THIS, I'M HOPING WE'RE GOING TO LAY SOME GROUNDWORK FOR SOME FUTURE GRANTS TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE THINGS.

I HAVE ONE COMMENT, AND I'M A THIS IS JUST A REPORT BECAUSE I SIT ON THAT SAME COMMITTEE.

SO THIS IS AN ASSIGNMENT. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE COMING BACK AND JUST SHARING.

SO I DON'T KNOW THEY SAID THEY ADDED TWO. THEY ADDED TWO THINGS TO THE RFQ WHICH YOU KNOW, WHO ADDED Y'ALL TO FROM THE FROM THE FROM THE BA.

IS THAT. YEAH. YEAH. THE ONES WHO LOOKED AT THE MOBILITY PLAN AND THEY HAD SOME THINGS IN IT THAT ORIGINALLY WEREN'T THERE TWO ITEMS. SO THEY JUST ADDED IT. SO IT'S JUST A REPORT BACK.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD DETERMINED THE WAY TO, TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS WAS TO SIGN IT TO THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE TO COME UP WITH THIS STRATEGY, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. LET ME ASK THIS, BOB, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN? THE THE COMMITTEE'S PLAN FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON THE COMMITTEE ON BRINGING BACK BEFORE ANYTHING IS FINALIZED ON YOUR RFQ.

DOES THAT COME BACK TO COUNCIL HERE? YEAH, THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE HAS NOT EVEN SEEN THE RFQ YET.

GOTCHA. SO WHO DEVELOPED THE RFQ? AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE, WE WE ASSIGNED THAT TASK TO THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENTS OF THE BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO WORK JOINTLY TO DEVELOP THAT CITY COUNCIL THE I MEAN, THE CITY STAFF. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. AND THEN THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE, THEN WILL BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR INPUT.

IS THAT WORK? YES. SO ARE YOU INVOLVED IN THAT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, OR ARE YOU INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RFQ? NO. THAT'S BETWEEN THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, THE RESPECTIVE PURCHASING DEPARTMENTS.

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CORRECT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? SIR? WELL, I MEAN, I JUST I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, AND YOU SAID THAT WE, AS IN YOU AND BOB, REVIEWED IT AND ADDED TWO ITEMS TO THE RFQ. THAT'S WHAT I JUST HEARD, RIGHT? THE ENTIRE WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE RFQ, BUT WE WERE WORKING ON WAS TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT AND AND THEN DAVID BECAUSE HE'S GOT EXPERIENCE IN THIS KIND OF FORMATTED THAT IN TERMS OF A SCOPE OF WORK.

AND SO WE GAVE THAT SCOPE OF WORK TO THE BOARD AND ROGER AND THEM AND, AND THEN THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE ALL LOOKED AT IT.

AND IT'S JUST A IT WAS JUST WHY IF I DID THAT, I WOULD, I WOULD BE CHASTISED OVER ALL THE EMAILS.

BUT WE DID IT BECAUSE THAT'S ALL TO WHICH IS THE, TO ME, THE JOB OF THE COUNCIL TO TO I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO START AN RFQ.

WE'RE NOT WITH Y'ALL'S OPINION. WELL, NOW YOU ADD IT AND SAID, Y'ALL NEED TO ADD THIS.

NO, THAT WAS BA'S OPINION. BUT YOU YOU JUST TOLD ME THAT YOU TOOK WHAT BA HAD WROTE AND SAID, Y'ALL NEED TO INCLUDE THIS IN RFQ, RIGHT? NO, AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE RFQ.

ALL WE DID WAS TRY TO GIVE THESE GUYS BA AND THOSE GUYS IN THE BOARD.

EVERYBODY TRY TO GET TOGETHER AND AGREE ON WHAT ARE THE ISSUES WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.

THAT WAS THAT WAS ALL WE DID. AND SO AND SO YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED AND THEN GAVE THAT TO TO PURCHASING TO BOARD.

AND WE GAVE THAT. WHO WHO WAS WE. BUT SEE WE SAID IN THE MEETING AND YOU COULD MAKE COMMENTS ON WHAT YOU THOUGHT.

SO EVERYBODY HAD INPUT. AND I DON'T THINK YOU WERE THERE THAT FIRST TIME.

AND YOU SENT YOURS IN ON THAT COMMITTEE. RIGHT.

BUT HE SENT WHAT HE HAD THROUGH BOB. I DID. OKAY.

SO WE ALL GAVE I GAVE COMMENTS. YEAH THAT'S WHAT IT WAS AS THE COMMITTEE WE SET AND WE GAVE OUR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE MOBILITY STUDY STUDY SHOULD INCLUDE THIS OR IT SHOULD INCLUDE THAT.

AND THEN THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY IT HAPPENED. WE ALL SIT THERE AS PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEN IT WAS PLACED INTO A PACKET OF NOTES.

AND THEN FROM ON THAT COMMITTEE. YEAH, SHE JUST MISSED THAT LAST TPC, THE LAST MEETING.

YEAH. BUT THAT'S AND THEN THEY WERE ALL PLACED INTO A PACKET OF NOTES.

YEAH. MR. CARUSO I'M BACK AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME.

I MEAN, I MUST GET A MEDAL TODAY. ANYWAY, CLARIFICATION ON THEY DID REACH OUT TO ME.

OKAY. HOWEVER, I WANT TO BE CLEAR, PURCHASING DOES NOT CREATE THE SCOPE OF WORK.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE FOCUSING ON IS THE SCOPE OF WORK.

THE THE SCOPE OF WORK COMES FROM THE INPUT FROM.

FROM WHAT? THE. PROPOSED PARTY WANTS TO DO, ALL WE DO IS WE PUT IT INTO OUR FRONT END DOCUMENTS AND WE ADVERTISE IT. THAT'S ALL WE DO. SO THE INPUT THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING TO THAT END USER FOR US TO ADVERTISE, IT REALLY COMES FROM WHATEVER MECHANISMS YOU HAVE IN PLACE TO COLLECT DATA.

BUT WE'RE NOT CREATING THE DATA AND THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE CRITERIA AND ALL THAT.

WE'RE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TELL US, HERE IS WHAT WE WANT YOU TO ADVERTISE.

RIGHT. THAT WAS THE TASK OF THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE.

THAT'S WHAT WE DID AND THAT. BUT THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE WILL NOT MAKE.

AND WE UNDERSTAND IT. THE FINAL DECISION THAT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL AND TO THE WHARVES BOARD TO MAKE FINAL ON THE RFQ.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MIKE. ANY.

BEAU. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY. VERY GOOD.

WELL, LET'S HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM THREE F, PLEASE.

[3.F. Discussion of the Status of Stewart Beach Development and Beach Patrol Headquarters (B. Brown/C. Brown - 15 min)]

ITEM THREE F DISCUSSION OF THE STATUS OF STEWART BEACH DEVELOPMENT AND BEACH PATROL HEADQUARTERS.

AND THIS IS A UPDATE ON THE STEWART BEACH DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE AMBER AND MICHELLE, IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.

HI. AMBER GUERRERO. I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DEPARTMENT.

THANKS, MICHELLE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR AGAIN.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, THE RFP CONTENT IS BEING FINALIZED AT THE MOMENT.

TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE COMMENTS BACK IN DECEMBER.

SO THE FORMATTER, THE FORMATTER VERSION SHOULD BE AVAILABLE AND READY TO GO BY FEBRUARY 6TH.

YEAH, IT'S FEBRUARY 6TH, RIGHT. IS THAT YEAH.

YEAH, THAT'S THE SCHEDULE, BUT EVERYTHING, YOU IF IT GOES SMOOTHLY.

AND THE LAST. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST MEETING OR SOME SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

AMBER GAVE AN UPDATE ON IT AND DELIVERED THE DRAFT RFP TO THE COUNCIL AND ASKED FOR COMMENTS.

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AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PERIOD. THE ONLY THING THAT WAS REALLY MISSING WAS SOME OF THE GRAPHICS, I THINK, ON THERE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

BASED ON COMMENTS THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL.

CORRECT. SO THE THE FINAL IS GOING TO GO OUT ON THE FIFTH.

ON THE SIXTH. READY ON THE SIXTH. BUT IT WON'T BE ISSUED UNTIL, UNTIL THE 17TH UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO HAVE A FORMAL VOTE BEFORE GOING OUT BE ISSUED ON THE 17TH. THAT'S IF EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY.

WE'RE INCORPORATING THAT. THEY MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY AND THEY GAVE TO US THE UPDATED MASTER PLAN.

SO WE HAD BEEN WAITING ON THAT TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION INTO THE THE DOCUMENTS, SO WE'LL BE SENDING THAT OUT TO YOU ALL. I'M SURE YOU WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THAT.

THE MASTER PLAN? YES. UPDATE TO THE MASTER PLAN.

I MAY ADD SOME IMAGES TO IT. IT'S KIND OF GLOSSING IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S THE SAME MASTER PLAN. NOTHING WAS REALLY ADDED TO IT OF SUBSTANCE.

WE JUST BUFFED IT UP A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE SUGGESTIONS TO THE.

IT'S BEEN CLEANED UP AND JUST ADDED A FEW RENDERINGS.

SO THE THE MASTER PLAN AND THE RFP, THEY'RE INSEPARABLE WOULD BE ALL READY FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT ON THE SIXTH.

YEAH. IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO SEE THE MASTER PLAN ON THE RFP AGAIN, THAT'S FINE.

AND THE MASTER PLAN ONCE THAT'S FINALIZED, WILL BE POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

YES. AND I'LL ALSO BE A LINK ON THE RFP. YEAH.

EVERYTHING TOGETHER IN THE RFQ WILL GO OUT FEBRUARY 17TH, UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO A FORMAL VOTE FOR IT.

YEAH. AND THEN HOW LONG WILL THAT WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? SHOULD WE HAVE A VOTE ON IT BEFORE IT GOES OUT? WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. WELL. THIS WAS A QUESTION THAT I HAD THROUGHOUT THE LAST TWO WEEKS OR SO ON THIS.

IT WAS THE UNDERSTANDING. AND, BRIAN, YOU MIGHT WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS THAT WE HAD THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THE RFQ, WAS BROUGHT TO US LAST MEETING OR SO. MEETING BEFORE LAST MEETING BEFORE LAST.

AND WAS DECEMBER. OKAY. DECEMBER 11TH MEETING.

AND THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO COUNCIL AND THEY REQUESTED ALL FEEDBACK TO COME BACK TO THEM.

AND SO IT WAS COUNCIL'S TIME TO GIVE THE FEEDBACK TO THEM.

WE USUALLY SEE THE FINAL PRODUCT BEFORE IT GOES OUT.

NOT NECESSARILY. NOT NECESSARILY. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

COUNCILWOMAN ROBB IS BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE FORMALLY THIS FINAL RFQ.

WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE WAY OUR PAST EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, BUT WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. SO WHAT WOULD THE SCHEDULE SLIP IF WE SAW THAT IN OUR FEBRUARY COUNCIL MEETING? IT WILL ADD A COUPLE OF WEEKS. A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

YES. OKAY. COUNCIL. IT DOES COUNCIL WANT TO SEE THE FINAL RFQ FOR A VOTE ON THIS? RFP. RFP. I'M SORRY. WHAT IF WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY INTERACTION WITH THIS RFP? WHAT IF NO ONE TAKES A STAB AT IT? WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR FALLBACK? WHAT'S YOUR FALLBACK LIKE TO BE? YEAH, I THINK AT THAT POINT THE CITY DEVELOPS IT ITSELF.

IT BECOMES A PARK, AND WE GO OUT THERE AND START DOING LITTLE BITS OF IT. WE'LL HAVE A MASTER PLAN WHEN WE GET.

WE HAVE A PLAN, BUT WE CAN'T FUND IT. WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT WE CAN'T FUND IT ALL BY OURSELVES.

WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO? I GUESS THAT'S PART OF OUR RFP FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THESE THINGS.

BUT AS A COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SOMEONE MIGHT COME IN AND SAY, LET US, YOU KNOW, JUST PAY YOU A RENTAL FEE FOR STUART BEACH AND WE'LL RUN AND MANAGE EVERYTHING. WHAT WHAT ARE WHAT IS COUNCIL WILLING TO GIVE UP? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT GLOW WILL ALLOW THEM TO COLLECT IN PROFIT FROM THE BEACH USER FEES.

THAT'S A THAT'S A. YEAH, WHICH IS WHERE THE MONEY IS.

I MEAN, UNLESS YOU DID SOMETHING LIKE TIPSY TURTLE OR SOMETHING. SO THE QUESTION BACK TO I NEED TO OF COURSE WE DON'T VOTE HERE, BUT DO WE WANT TO SEE THE FINAL RFQ FOR A FORMAL VOTE TO APPROVE IT, EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO US AND THAT THERE WAS VERY LITTLE INPUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I'VE ALREADY READ IT AND AND PROVIDED MY COMMENTS.

AND THE TEXT OF THE THING IS NOT CHANGED. PARDON ME.

YOU SAW THE FINAL. I BASICALLY. I SAW WHAT WAS SENT OUT AT OUR LAST MEETING AFTERWARDS.

AND I SPOKEN TO AMBER ABOUT THIS. I GAVE HER MY COMMENTS AND SPOKEN TO AMBER ABOUT THIS AND THE TEXT PART OF THAT.

THE RFP DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE EXCEPT FOR MY VIEW OR ANYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS.

IT DIDN'T CHANGE. THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED WAS THE ACTUAL GRAPHICS.

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YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE IMAGES OF THE BEACH AND ALL THAT.

YEAH, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN AND BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL.

AND SO IT'S UP TO COUNCIL. IF WE PUT IT ON FEBRUARY'S AGENDA FOR A FORMAL VOTE, THEN IT JUST DELAYS IT 2 OR 3 WEEKS OR SO, A WEEK AND A HALF. OKAY. YES. BEAU AGAIN, MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

AND ALL ALONG, WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT CLEANING STUART BEACH? THIS IS PART OF THE RFP. IS THERE? YES. AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN NO FEEDBACK OF SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS OUR DATE.

WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A CLEAN PALETTE FOR THE DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO BID ON THIS, BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THAT'S WHAT HE HAS TO START WITH, AND WE'RE DEPENDING ON A DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH AN RFP.

AND AND WE GET CHOICES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BIDDING ON THIS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG PART OF OF WHAT HE HAS TO START WITH, WHICH IS CLEANING THIS UP.

SO WHY HAVE WE NOT ADDRESSED THAT YET? THAT WOULD BE FOR YOU ALL TO DIRECT THE PARK BOARD TO ADDRESS IT AT THIS POINT, OR TO TELL THEM TO STEP ASIDE AND LET THE CITY ADDRESS IT.

RIGHT NOW, I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO IN THERE AND START DOING ANYTHING. OKAY. AND THEN I'D HAVE TO HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT TO DO THAT. IF YOU WANTED THE CITY TO DO IT. OTHERWISE YOU DIRECT THEM TO DO IT, AND THEY COULD USE THE USER FEES THAT THEY'VE COLLECTED AND HELD.

SO I DON'T DISAGREE THAT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD CLEAN UP THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL ANY POTENTIAL INTERESTED PARTY THAT THAT WILL BE CLEANED UP BEFORE THEY WOULD DO ANYTHING? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT, BRIAN. THAT IS SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED THE OTHER WAY BEFORE WE DID THIS, TO WHERE THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO LOOK AT THIS THING CLEANLY INSTEAD OF SAYING THEY HAVE TO START WITH THE PROBLEM. DON'T DISAGREE. SO AGAIN, WE AS A COUNCIL MUST ADDRESS THIS SOON RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT POTENTIAL OF WHAT IS THIS PROJECT 25 TO 30 MILLION? IS THAT OUR HOPE? IT MAY BE ZERO. NOBODY BIDS ON IT, BUT WHO KNOWS.

BUT NO ONE WANTS TO NOT QUALIFIED TO BID EITHER.

I MEAN, NO ONE WANTS NO ONE WANTS TO DEPEND ON A MUNICIPALITY TO TO BASICALLY PROMISE TO CLEAN SOMETHING UP.

IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE DONE A LONG TIME AGO.

BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY, I GUESS THAT'S JUST A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM AS IN THE NEXT ONE, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT BEING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FINAL RFP.

THESE AIM TO PROMOTE AND HOPE FOR THAT. WE ARE GOING TO GET A VERY INTERESTED, DEVELOPING PARTNER TO DO THIS AND FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT. WE GOT TO DO OUR JOB AND THAT'S THE PARK SUPPORT JOB BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CREATED THE ISSUE.

THEN THE PARKS BOARD NEEDS TO ADDRESS IT AND ASAP.

BRIAN. EXCUSE ME. DAVID. BRIAN, DO YOU NEED A DIRECTION, A VOTE OF COUNCIL FOR YOU TO CALL THE PARK BOARD AND HAVE THEM START.

I DON'T BELIEVE I CAN DIRECT THE PARK BOARD TO DO ANYTHING.

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO DIRECT YOUR TRUSTEES TO DO THAT.

MAYOR. OKAY. OKAY. SO, BOB. WELL, DAVID HAD HIS HAND UP, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD FROM YOU THAT YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A DRAINAGE COMPONENT TO THE RFP TO ADDRESS TO TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.

RESOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RAWLINS IS SPEAKING OF.

CORRECT. COUNCIL MEMBER RAWLINS, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THAT WE PULL THAT OUT OF THE RFP AND DO THAT INDEPENDENTLY AS A SEPARATE CIP PROJECT 100%, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH CONTROVERSY BEHIND IT.

I MEAN, WE COULD ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE A VERY INTERESTED AND EFFECTIVE DEVELOPER THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH.

WE ESSENTIALLY CAN ELIMINATE THAT JUST SIMPLY IF THEY LOOK OVER THE PROJECT AND SEE, OH, WE'VE GOT A SITUATION.

I WILL TELL YOU, IN THE YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT THAT I'VE DONE, WHEN A DEVELOPER IS FACED WITH THAT SORT OF ISSUE, THAT'S ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS THAT EITHER THEY EXCLUDE.

SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT IN MY FINANCIAL MODEL.

OR THEY COME BACK TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH YOU IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THIS BEFORE ANY OF THIS OTHER DEVELOPMENT CAN OCCUR.

SO YOUR YOUR POINT OF PULLING IT OUT AND FUNDING IT SEPARATELY WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE.

I JUST I WE JUST GOT TO FIGURE I WOULD SUPPORT IT AS LONG AS WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GET THE FUNDING FROM.

WELL, THE FUNDING IS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY THAT CREATED THE ISSUE, WHICH WOULD BE THE PARK BOARD. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DID THE WORK, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE SAT ON THIS FOR OVER TEN YEARS THAT I KNOW OF.

GREAT. AND IT'S AT SOME POINT IN TIME LET'S, YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT A HOPEFUL DEVELOPER PARTNER THAT WE CAN BRING INTO THIS COMMUNITY THAT CAN PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF, THAT CAN PUT THE BEACH PATROL IN THAT WE CAN DEPEND ON.

YOU KNOW, WHY START DIRTY. GIVE THEM A CLEAN PALETTE.

GIVE THEM THE EXACT SCOPE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A SCOPE THAT CAN BE REALLY QUICKLY.

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AGAIN, I THINK AND I'M ONLY SPEAKING FOR IN MY OPINION.

BUT IN MY OPINION, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO NOW.

AND YES, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PULL THAT OUT.

I WOULD SUPPORT THOSE QUALIFICATIONS PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH. THEN NOW LET'S AND I'M I'M SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT BEAU IS TALKING ABOUT HERE.

AND BUT I WANT TO LOGISTICALLY, DOES IT INVOLVE AMENDING OUR RFP? YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO DO THAT AND THAT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED.

AND THEN WE PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE A A SEPARATE ITEM TO THEN ADDRESS DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH THAT.

YEAH. RIGHT. YOU KNOW THE RFP. EXCUSE ME, BOB JANELLE.

DID YOU GET THAT? OKAY. YEAH. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY ANYTHING HERE.

IN FACT I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT WHAT ALEX'S POINT ABOUT A CONTINGENCY PLAN IS.

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, I THINK. AND PART OF THAT CONTINGENCY PLAN, I THINK, IS CORRECTING THE DRAINAGE OUT THERE.

WE NEED TO DO THAT. WHETHER OR NOT WHATEVER HAPPENS, WE NEED TO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE PLAN.

BUT IN RFP, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE LANGUAGE THAT THAT THAT ADDRESSES DRAINAGE IN THE IN THE DEVELOPERS PROJECT.

YOU KNOW DEVELOPERS THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS IF THIS WERE SUCCESSFUL, THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD ALL NEW INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE. SO WHATEVER THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DRAIN PROPERLY SO WE DON'T GET STUCK IN THE SAME THING.

SO AND THAT WILL WILL STAY. THERE IS A COMPONENT THAT THAT'S OBVIOUS TO ME.

I'M TALKING ABOUT PRE SITE. I'M TALKING ABOUT PRE-CONSTRUCTION DRAINAGE AND CLEANUP.

I THINK I BELIEVE I BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT THEY ALTER THAT WOULD CHANGE THE DRAINAGE FROM WHAT WE WOULD MAKE IT.

YEAH THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO RECTIFY THAT. I THINK WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RAWLINS IS SAYING IS, IS WE NEED TO GIVE THEM A CLEAN SLATE, RIGHT? YEAH. WELL, AND WE NEED TO I THINK YOU'RE ALSO POINT IS GOOD THAT IT'S BEEN THAT WAY TOO LONG.

AND WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT ONLY A CONTINGENCY PLAN.

THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A NEEDED PLAN RIGHT NOW.

SO WHATEVER. BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT A CONTINGENCY PLAN ABOUT HOW WE HOW WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS IF THIS DOESN'T WORK? I THINK WE EITHER NEED TO FIX IT OR LANDMARK IT.

YEAH, THERE ARE NO TAX INCENTIVES HERE. BECAUSE IT IS NOT DRAINING.

SO BRIAN MENTIONED THAT THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT THE TRUSTEES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE THE MAYOR. I THINK IT'S A COUNCIL ACTION IF WE ADDRESS IT. OUR NEXT MEETING. COUNCIL.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, I CAN TAKE IT AS A LIAISON. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH MARTY.

HE AND I COULD TALK ABOUT IT ALL DAY LONG. BUT HIS TRUSTEES HAVE TO AGREE TO IT, AND.

AND I CAN'T JUST GO OVER THERE AND SAY, GO FIX IT.

IF I COULD, I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT A LONG TIME AGO. YOU COULD. YOU JUST MIGHT NOT GET ANY RESPONSE OR MIGHT NOT MAKE IT BACK. SO WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEXT.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO ITEMS. WE'LL HAVE AN ITEM TO ADDRESS THE RFP SO THAT WE WE WORD THAT IN A MANNER THAT IS NOT REQUIRING THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPER FROM GOING OUT THERE AND MANAGING THIS INITIALLY ALL THE PROBLEMS. YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON HERE, THREE K WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO DISCUSS A FUTURE JOINT MEETING WITH THE PARK BOARD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FALLS, BUT THIS MAY PLAY INTO THAT.

AND THAT WAY YOU COULD DO THIS IN A JOINT MEETING FASHION. I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL WANT TO DO IT. THAT'S UP TO YOU. COUNCIL COULD VOTE AND I'LL SIGN OFF ON A LETTER TO THE PARK BOARD, I THINK JUST AS EASILY AS HAVING A JOINT MEETING, BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU. I THINK PERSONALLY WE NEED TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS, WITH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, GET IT ON THE AGENDA TO GIVE DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF ON HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INITIAL ADDRESSING OF THIS, OF THESE DRAINAGE CONCERNS.

AND AND THIS IS NO SURPRISE, WE TALKED ABOUT I'M SORRY.

ANY IDEA OF COMING UP WITH SOME CONTINGENCY PLAN IF THIS DOESN'T WORK? CONTINGENCY PLAN? I WOULDN'T DO THAT. THAT'S LIKE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE.

YEAH, I WOULDN'T THAT'S I'M NOT SAYING SOLVE IT RIGHT NOW.

I'M SAYING ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS MIGHT NOT WORK.

I'D WAIT TO SEE. SO WHAT DO WE DO? WELL, WE KNOW THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS FIX THE DRAINAGE.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED HERE, GUYS, IS LET'S JUST SAY WE ASSIGN THIS TO THE PARK BOARD TO FIX OR YOU TAKE IT ON YOURSELF, WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE TO DO. THESE BEACH PROJECTS ARE NOT EXPEDIENT.

THEY REQUIRE INPUT, THEY REQUIRE REVIEW, THEY REQUIRE ALL THESE THINGS.

AND YOU'RE BRINGING IN A DEVELOPER ON A TIMELINE, HOPEFULLY TO DO WORK.

AND IF THEY'RE SITTING THERE WAITING ON, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A DOLLAR WAITING ON A DIME AT THAT POINT, WHILE WE'RE WAITING OUT THERE TO MOVE, GET PERMISSION TO MOVE, SAND, DIG A HOLE, WHATEVER.

WE JUST THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION IS. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE FACTORED INTO THE RFP PROCESS AS TO HOW LONG.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE DRAINAGE OUT THERE, APPROVE IT, FIX IT, WHATEVER, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT FACTORED IN BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT

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THEM GATHERING UP CAPITAL AND PLANS AND SITTING THERE WAITING ON YOU TO GET A PERMIT FROM THE GLOW TO MOVE IN A LONG TIME AGO.

SO THE THE COUNTER SOLUTION, I THINK, IN EVERYBODY'S MIND IS SIMPLE.

BUT NOTHING I'VE LEARNED IN LIFE IS THAT SIMPLE.

SO THE COUNTER TO THE ARGUMENT OF DOING THE WORK NOW WOULD BE TO LEAVE IT IN THE RFP, ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO ADDRESS THE SCOPE WITH US.

THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THAT PROPERTY THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS BEING DONE.

SO YOU COULD GO FORWARD WITH A PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT WHILE HE'S WAITING ON ALL THE OTHER BUREAUCRATIC APPROVALS.

AND SOME WOULD ARGUE THAT A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR COULD MOVE FASTER THAN WE COULD ON REMEDIATING THE PROBLEM.

AND NORMALLY I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FACT THAT THEY'D HAVE TO WAIT ON THE SAME PERMIT THAT WE'D HAVE TO WAIT ON. SO I DON'T KNOW, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

OF COURSE, I'D HAVE TO BID IT OUT. IF HE'S PART OF THIS RFP, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

AS MR. CARUSO TOLD US IN THE BEST DAYS, THAT'S A THAT'S A 90 DAY PROCESS.

BEAU WOULD BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY. WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE SITTING DOWN WITH STAFF AND PUTTING TOGETHER AN APPROACH ON THIS, ON HOW YOU FEEL IT SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD. I THINK YOU HAVE QUITE AN INTEREST IN THIS, AND I THINK YOU COULD GIVE INPUT TO STAFF ON THAT.

YEAH, 100%. I HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION OF DIFFERENT EVENTS OUT THERE.

HIGH TIDE, RAIN EXAMPLES OF THAT OF WHAT WE'RE KIND OF GETTING STUCK WITH.

AND. YEAH, I'D LOVE TO. ALL RIGHT. I'VE BEEN THREATENING ABOUT BEAU COFFEY ANYWAY, SO WE COULD DO THIS IF WE COULD.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE BASES ARE COVERED YOU FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE ON IT OUT THERE.

SO WHEN IT COMES BACK IN FEBRUARY ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE IT STRUCTURED IN A MANNER.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT. I THINK THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AGAIN, IT'S BEEN PART OF WHAT I'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO SINCE I GOT HERE.

SO ANYWAY, I'M GLAD WE'RE ADDRESSING IT. THANKS FOR BEING OPEN ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO. SO THIS NEXT MEETING, WHEN WE DISCUSS THIS, THIS WILL RESULT IN, I GUESS, IN SOME DIRECTION, YOU AND I GET TOGETHER, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, LET'S. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, FIX IT.

I THINK YOU NEED TO TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT FIXED.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EXPERTS ON THAT, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST GIVE THEM PARAMETERS THAT THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH.

IF THAT'S THE IF THAT'S Y'ALL'S INTENDED PATH, IF YOU WANT TO JUST TAKE IT AND DO IT YOURSELF, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TELL THEM WE'RE TAKING THAT BACK AND WE'RE BUT THAT'S I DON'T KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TO GET LEGAL INVOLVED WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ASSIGNED THE MOST EXPEDIENT WAY IS THE WAY TO DO IT, WHATEVER THAT ENDS UP BEING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS FROM AN RFP STANDPOINT, JUST ME.

I THINK I WOULD BRING BACK THAT BACK FOR A COUNCIL APPROVAL FORMALLY OF THE RFP AND HAVE A SECTION IN THERE WHERE EITHER WE LEAVE IT AS IS, WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE, OR WE HAVE WHERE WE AMEND THE SECTION.

OR YOU COULD DO AN AN ALTERNATE. YEAH. EXPLAIN THAT.

BOB BRIAN, A LOT OF TIMES YOU PUT THINGS IN RFPS AS AN AD ALTERNATE, LIKE, WE'LL PUT IT ON A STREET, YOU KNOW, PAVING, BLAH BLAH, BLAH, AND ALTERNATE WOULD BE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT IN CONCRETE AND SOME CONTRACTORS WILL BID IT, SOME WON'T. AND YOU KNOW, THEY MAY GIVE YOU A BETTER DEAL. YOU MAY PUT IN THERE AS AN ALTERNATE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ON THE DRAINAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY, YOU KNOW, JUST CHECK A BOX. AND THEN WE COULD WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF WAYS YOU COULD DO THAT. MR. CARUSO COULD TALK YOU THROUGH THOSE, BUT. WELL, IF I'D LIKE, FOR WHEN BEAU GETS WITH YOU TO NOT ONLY ADDRESS ADDRESSING THAT WITH POSSIBLY THE PARK BOARD NOW, BUT ALSO ON THE RFP AND HOW WE WANT TO RESTRUCTURE THAT.

GOTCHA. HE'S GOT A GOOD MIND FOR THAT. WE'RE DOING SOMETHING EXTREMELY SIMILAR, VERY A LOT SMALLER IN SCOPE.

WE'RE DOING SOMETHING EXTREMELY SIMILAR AT RAFFLE PARK WHERE WE ARE REMOVING A DUNE.

WE'RE, YOU KNOW, VERY SIMILAR TO THE SCOPE. WE WOULD NEED TO TURN IT BACK INTO SHEET DRAINING FROM THE SEAWALL SOUTH.

AND WE'RE DOING THAT OUT AT OUTFIELD PARK NOW AND A LOT MORE SMALLER SCOPE, BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO THERE.

OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL WE GET A DEVELOPER COMING IN HERE.

IT MAY BE THE FIRST THING HE DOES WHEN HE INSTALLS SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IS ROADS AND ACCESS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

AND, AND COMPLETELY CORRECTS THIS WHOLE DRAINAGE THING RIGHT AWAY, YOU KNOW? BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A REASON FOR US TO NOT DO IT NOW.

I AGREE. YEAH. I THINK IN GENERAL WATER RUNS DOWNHILL.

AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW THAT PHILOSOPHY, WE'RE GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT, WHETHER WE DO IT THE DEVELOPER OR THE PARK BOARD. OKAY.

ALSO, THE BEACH PATROL HEADQUARTERS IS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? OH, WE ASKED FOR A PROPOSAL FOR THE TECHNICAL DRAWINGS FOR BR FROM BRW, SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ON THIS PROJECT BEFORE, AND THEY ALREADY KNOW THE PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING.

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AMBER ALREADY DID THE SCHEMATICS OF THE DRAWING FOR THEM.

AND WE'VE ACCOMMODATED THE NEEDS THAT MARTY AND THE AND THE PARK BOARD HAVE GIVEN US.

WE'VE SENT THAT TO US. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN STUFF.

YES. I HAVEN'T SEEN BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

I'VE SEEN STUFF ON FACEBOOK, BUT OH, THE STUFF ON FACEBOOK IS NOT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS EVEN COMING FROM.

YEAH, THAT'S AN OLD ONE. NO, THIS THIS IS, THIS BASICALLY IS AND WE'VE TALKED TO WE'VE COORDINATED ALL THIS WITH THE PARK BOARD.

THIS BASICALLY IS IS A 6000 SQUARE FOOT BEACH HOUSE, AND IT'LL BE CONSTRUCTED AS SUCH, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO CONSTRUCT IT.

FOR US. IT'S GOING TO BE FURTHER BACK AND OVER.

SO IT'S NOT TO GET A PICTURE OF IT BECAUSE SHE'S GOT SOME SCHEMATICS.

YEAH, I PRINTED OUT THAT LAST MEETING, BUT I CAN SEND IT TO YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU. YEAH. NO. MY PLEASURE. AND IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE STILL FULLY STAFFED, WE COULD PROBABLY ALMOST DO THIS ENTIRE THING IN-HOUSE. BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S JUST HITTING SO LOW, I THINK GETTING BRW TO DO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS IS IS GOOD.

AND WITH ALL THE WINDSTORM RATINGS AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A RELATIVELY SIMPLE PROJECT TO DO.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE PROGRAMING, WHICH IS AND WE'VE AND WE'VE I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS A CONSTRUCTION TYPOLOGY.

YEAH. YEAH. BRW SO THAT'S THAT'S GIVES BRW A HEAD START.

YEAH. WELL BRW ALREADY DID THE PROGRAMING. WE ALREADY DID ALL THIS.

SO NOW 6000FT² THING THAT YOU KNOW THAT WORKED OUT WITH MARTY.

AND THERE WERE SOME COMPROMISES. BUT WE GOT IT.

I UNDERSTAND. AND YOU GOT A LOCATION. YES. SO WE GOT BRW HAS GOT A HEAD START ON THIS WHOLE THING 100%.

YEAH. OKAY. AND WE SHOULD RECEIVE THAT PROPOSAL NEXT WEEK.

I'M SORRY. AND WE SHOULD RECEIVE THAT PROPOSAL.

WE'VE ASKED THEM FOR. AND THEY'RE ONE OF OUR PRE-QUALIFIED VENDORS. SO THEY'RE SUPPLYING US WITH THE QUOTES. AND YOU'LL DISTRIBUTE THAT. THE SCHEMATICS AND ALL THAT? YEAH, I CAN SEND THAT. SO WHEN WE GET THEIR PROPOSAL FOR THEIR RFP, WILL WE ALSO GET A DRAFT SCHEDULE? YEAH. WELL, ONCE WE AWARD THE THE WORK. YES. YEAH, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I ASKED AMBER TO.

I SAID PART OF THE PART OF THIS NEEDS TO BE A SCHEDULE, BECAUSE THIS IS RELATIVELY SIMPLE.

AND I WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM OVERCOMPLICATE IT.

WE WANT TO ROLL. AMBER, YOU AND MICHELLE, ARE YOU CLEAR ON WHERE WE'RE HEADING FOR NEXT MEETING NOW? YES. SO? SO WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THAT, I GUESS, IN OUR FEBRUARY MEETING.

ALSO, BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE THE RFP AND EVERYTHING WILL BE UNDER CONTRACT BY THEN, RIGHT? HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY. BUT YOU'RE CLEAR ON WHERE WE'RE HEADING WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN RAWLINS HAS.

WE JUST NEED TO GET THESE CDS DONE. SO THAT WAY, THE CONTRACT, THE BIDDERS CAN DO THEIR TAKEOFFS AND GET US SOME BIDS, AND WE CAN GET MOVING. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RFP, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO TO MY UNDERSTANDING, WE'RE GOING TO ADD IT AS AN ALTERNATE SO WE CAN JUST HAVE IT THERE.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO PEEL IT OFF. IT'LL BE AN ALTERNATE THEN WHATEVER BEAU AND I WORK OUT WILL INCORPORATE THAT IN.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL WE'VE GOT THREE ITEMS IN A ROW, G H AND I, THAT HAVE TO DO WITH DOWNTOWN PARKING.

SO MY THOUGHT WAS THAT WE WOULD GO TO. I WOULD LIKE TO READ ALL THREE OF THOSE AT ONE TIME, BECAUSE I THINK THEY OVERLAP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

ONCE WE FINISH THOSE, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE BREAK AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SO THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY HAVE SOME LUNCH AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THAT POINT. COULD YOU READ G, H AND I TOGETHER, PLEASE?

[Items 3.G. - 3.I.]

THREE G. DISCUSSION OF OPTIONS FOR DOWNTOWN RESIDENT AND EMPLOYEE PARKING.

THREE H DISCUSSION OF DOWNTOWN PARKING REVENUE.

THREE I DISCUSSION OF PARKING ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES, INCLUDING CITATION ISSUANCE, NOTICE TO VIOLATORS AND THE COLLECTION OF PARKING FINES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO VEHICLES DISPLAYING A VALID HANDICAP.

PLACARDS OR LICENSE PLATES EXEMPT FROM PARKING FEES.

VERY GOOD. I KNOW MARIE YOUR NAME WAS ON THESE.

DID YOU WANT TO START OFF ON. WHERE ARE WE ON THE THE HALF HOURS? AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT. I THOUGHT WE AGREED UPON IT.

PAID FOR FIRST HOUR. HALF HOUR WASN'T GOING TO CAUSE THE HALF HOUR PRICING.

IT'S DOABLE ON THE ON THE PAY BY PHONE APP AND THE KIOSKS LOOKING AT THE COST OF THAT AT 225 PER HOUR RIGHT NOW FOR DOWNTOWN PARKING, PUTTING THE 30 MINUTE INCREMENT IN THERE WOULD ROUNDING IT UP HALF FROM 225 IF YOU TAKE OUT THE 30 CENT TRANSACTION FEE. SO KEEPING THE THE THE FEES, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK TO THE CITY AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.

IT WOULD BE PROBABLY A DOLLAR, BUT THEN YOU'D HAVE TO ADD THE 30 CENT TRANSACTION FEE BACK TO THAT ONE TRANSACTION.

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YOU'D BE BUYING A DOLLAR AND A HALF. BUT IN ORDER TO COVER THAT COST, IF SOMEONE WAS TO BUY INDIVIDUAL 30 MINUTE INCREMENTS, YOU'D STILL HAVE TO COVER THE POTENTIAL COST OF THAT 30 CENT TRANSACTION FEE.

SO IF YOU WERE TO HAVE SOMEONE GO AND BUY THE INITIAL HOUR AT 225 AND THEN ADD TWO ADDITIONAL 30 MINUTE INCREMENTS, YOU'RE TALKING 225 PLUS POSSIBLY $1.30 PLUS $1.30.

WELL, OR EVEN I'M SORRY, LET'S SAY ONE TRANSACTION.

THE POINT OF IT WAS WHEN SOMEONE IS GOING TO SHOP OR HAVE LUNCH, IT TYPICALLY TAKES AN HOUR AND A HALF.

WHAT WE HAVE HAPPENING NOW IS PEOPLE PAYING FOR AN HOUR AND RISKING IT GETTING A TICKET, WHICH WE FOUND OUT WE HAVE 1% COLLECTION RATE. SO IF YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO.

WHICH DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM WITH HEATHER, SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY EASY FIX.

I THOUGHT WE ALL AGREED ON IT. I'M USING HEATHER'S FIGURES HERE, BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD ALL AGREED ON IT AND WE WERE MOVING FORWARD.

IT'S DOABLE. AND LIKE I SAID. BUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS? AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRES JUNE 30TH.

SO WE'LL BE GOING OUT FOR RFP HERE IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS ANYWAY, TO GET THIS NEW CONTRACT IN PLACE AND ESTABLISH BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT SO WE CAN INCORPORATE ALL THIS. BUT IN ORDER TO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT 30 CENT TRANSACTION FEE AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED COUNCIL WOULD BE FOR THAT ONE HOUR RATE IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY IN THE $1 $30.50 RANGE FROM.

WHAT I UNDERSTAND IN DISCUSSIONS IS JUST TO COVER THAT TRANSACTION FEE IF WE OFFER THE 30 MINUTE INCREMENTS.

ALEX. OKAY. I IT'S TO ME, IT SEEMS CUMBERSOME ON OUR SERVICES ON THE CITY TO.

COLLECT THE TRANSACTION FEE AND THEN AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES LIKE, LET'S SAY THEY GO UP $0.05 OR EVEN IF THEY GO UP A PENNY, WE'RE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES IN A THE SAME PROBLEM WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AMEND OUR CODES AND ORDINANCES TO COLLECT THAT EXTRA CENT, WHATEVER, $0.05. SO WHAT IS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO RFP? I MEAN, IS IT MUCH DIFFERENT IF WE SAY, I WAS LOOKING FOR MIKE? HE'S NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, RFP, RFQ, YOU KNOW, THAT'S.

BUT WHY WHY ARE WE NOT JUST. HAVING PAY BY PHONE COLLECT A TRANSACTION FEE.

SO IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF OUR END AT ANY WAY, ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM? THE ORIGINAL I GUESS COUNCIL APPROVAL ON THIS.

FIVE, HOW MANY YEARS AGO THEY WANTED TO INCORPORATE THAT TRANSACTION FEE IN THE FLAT PARKING FEE? YEAH. WE CAN VERY EASILY SET OUR PARKING FEE AND PAY BY PHONE CAN ADD THAT TRANSACTION FEE IS A SEPARATE TRANSACTION.

WHENEVER SOMEBODY USES THEIR CREDIT CARD TO SWIPE, YOU KNOW, TO TO PAY FOR THIS PARKING.

BUT WE CAN'T SEPARATE THAT SO THAT IF THEY DO GO UP FROM $0.30 TO 35 OR 40, WHICH I FULLY EXPECT OVER A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE OUR RATES. THAT RATE WOULD SIMPLY BE ABSORBED BY THE USER WITH WITH AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE ON THE CREDIT CARD WHEN THEY PAY FOR THE PARKING. SO WE CAN CHANGE THAT.

I MEAN, MAYBE COUNCIL CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE LOSING.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. $0.05 PER TRANSACTION FEE OR WHATEVER, TEN CENT, WHATEVER IT IS, OVER 200,000 TRANSACTIONS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE IT'S JUST LIKE IF YOU GO OUT TO CLASSIC AND YOU PUT YOUR OIL CHANGE ON YOUR CREDIT CARD, THE OIL CHANGE COST 50 BUCKS. I PROBABLY SHORTCHANGED YOU ON THAT 50 BUCKS, BUT THEN THERE'S A TRANSACTION FEE ON TOP OF IT, AND IT JUST COMES WITH USING IT. AND I AGREE TO THE PREVIOUS COUNCILS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF MAKING IT MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT HAS TO BE.

SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE THEM HANDLE THE TRANSACTION FEE.

SO IF THEY GO UP, PEOPLE CAN YELL AT PAY BY PHONE AND THEY'RE NOT YELLING AT THE CITY. I'M SURE AT THE TIME THEY WERE LOOKING FOR THE MOST SIMPLE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE IT ALL INTO ONE FEE. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

EVEN FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THE MATH EASY.

THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO GO UP PROBABLY $0.05, YOU KNOW, MAYBE $0.10 OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO YEAH, INSTEAD OF US HAVING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND REDO OUR ORDINANCE AND WHAT THESE PARKING FEES COST, WE COULD ESTABLISH SOMETHING NOW AND THEN. THAT ADDITIONAL FEE WOULD SIMPLY BE ADMINISTERED BY PAY BY PHONE, WOULD BE AN ADD ON FEE FOR THEM. WHEN THEY MANAGE THE TRANSACTION FEE, THEY KNOW THE CUSTOMER UNDERSTANDS THAT IT WOULD SHOW UP ON THE APP.

RIGHT NOW IT SAYS ZERO ON THERE ON THE TRANSACTION FEE.

GOTCHA. ZERO IS BECAUSE WE FACTORED IT IN. WE ABSORB AND WE ABSORB IT AND THAT WELL, WE WOULD CUT THEM A CHECK FOR THE TRANSACTION FEES.

BUT WHEN I PARK IN COLLEGE STATION, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE A IT'S NOT PAY BY PHONE BUT IT'S A COMPETITOR.

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I IT HAS THE PARKING FEE. AND THEN WHEN I PAY IT IT'S GOT THE PAY BY WEB.

YEAH. WHATEVER IT IS ON THE APP PARK MOBILE FEES.

THERE'D BE THE PARKING FEE AND THE TRANSACTION FEE SEPARATELY.

YES. IF WE WERE TO SWITCH THE METHOD THAT WE DO IT NOW.

YES. SHARON. SO IF I WANTED THE 30 MINUTE AND THEN I WENT LIKE I NEED 30 MORE MINUTES, AM I GOING TO PAY $0.30 AND THEN I'M GOING TO PAY $0.30. THAT'S CORRECT.

YES. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT STARTING WITH A MINIMUM OF AN HOUR, STARTING WITH A MINIMUM OF AN.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES. BUT YOU COULD BUY AN HOUR AND A HALF INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BUY A HALF HOUR AND, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I DON'T THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 30 MINUTE INTERVALS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OFFERING AN HOUR, AN HOUR AND A HALF OR A TWO HOUR OPTION.

TWO AND A HALF. AND THEN AFTER THAT HOUR INCREMENTS AFTER THAT, LIKE WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE.

BUT YOU GET THAT BECAUSE NOBODY'S GOING TO SAY 2.5 HOURS, I DON'T THINK.

I THINK WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE YOU START OFF WITH THE ORIGINAL HOUR AND THEN YOU ADD INCREMENTS.

SO YOU'D START OFF WITH AND THEN YOU HIT THE BUTTON FOR EVERY 30 MINUTE INCREMENT, WHICH WOULD BE FINE IF YOU DID SAY TWO HOURS INITIALLY YOU GET THE 130 CENT TRANSACTION FEE. BUT IF YOU DID THE HOUR AND THEN WENT BACK AGAIN AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I NEED ANOTHER 30 MINUTES. NOW YOU'RE PAYING AN ADDITIONAL TRANSACTION FEE.

AND IF YOU DO IT AGAIN, YOU'RE PAYING AN ADDITIONAL.

AND IF YOU'RE USING THE ADD ON APP THAT ALERTS YOU ON THE CITY.

SO THE 30 MINUTES IS DOABLE, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FEE INCREASE WE'D HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO COVER THAT 30 CENT TRANSACTION FEE.

ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT STARTING WITH AN HOUR, AND THEN YOU COULD ADD OR BUYING AN HOUR AND A HALF TO BEGIN WITH.

AND THEN IF YOU NEED IT. AND MAYBE THAT'S THE SOLUTION, IS WE JUST GO TO AN HOUR AND A HALF AT A MINIMUM.

AND IF WE SEE ANY REVENUE, YOU WOULDN'T GO TO AN HOUR AND A HALF MINIMUM.

YOU'D ALWAYS HAVE AN HOUR MINIMUM. BUT WE KNOW WHAT THE BIG ISSUE IS NOW.

PEOPLE GO DOWNTOWN, THEY BUY AN HOUR. THEY CHANCE IT WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING 15, 30 MINUTES LATE, THEY GET A TICKET. TICKETS ARE BEING PAID. AND WHEREAS THIS WAY YOU'D BUY AN HOUR AND A HALF, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A LUNCH. THE GOOD NEWS IS, IF WE IF WE GO THE WAY ROBB AND ALEX IS DESCRIBING IT, AND WE TAKE THE FEE, AND THE FEE IS JUST AN EXTRA, IT'S JUST AN ADD ON THAT WE CAN WE COULD DO THIS AND WE CAN MONITOR IT AND SEE IF IT'S IMPACTING, ADVERSELY IMPACTING OUR DOWNTOWN REVENUES.

THEN THE CHANGES ARE VERY EASY. IT DOESN'T INVOLVE GIGANTIC PROGRAMING CHANGES FOR THE FEE AND ALL THAT STUFF LIKE AND ALL THE BACK MATH THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO NOW, WE COULD JUST CHANGE IT AND WE COULD MONITOR IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE I KNOW THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I HEAR FROM DOWNTOWN IS THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP. WE ARE GETTING I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT'S A REALLY BIZARRE WORLD, BUT WE'RE GETTING NOTHING BUT COMPLIMENTS ABOUT THE GUYS WORK DOWNTOWN.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT RIGHT NOW. I KNOW, BUT WHAT WE ALSO DISCUSSED ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE COLLECTIONS ON TICKETS BEING PAID, THAT'S HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT.

I WOULD I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY, AND I'M GOING TO GET RAVI TO BREAK THIS DOWN FOR ME. I THINK OUR COLLECTIONS ARE HIGHER DOWNTOWN THAN THEY ARE ON THE SEAWALL. YEAH, BUT IT'S A BLENDED NUMBER. THE PERSON WHO COLLECTS IT WAS LIKE 27, 21.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT WAS ANY WHICH WAY.

IT'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE. YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF ABUSE WITH PARKING DOWNTOWN AND THOSE TICKETS REFLECT THAT.

BUT JUST FOR GENERAL NUMBERS PAY BY PHONE 309 PLUS THOUSAND TRANSACTIONS IN ONE YEAR, AS OPPOSED TO 11,000 CITATIONS WRITTEN. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS THAT ARE WRITTEN AGAINST THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE MADE BY PAY BY PHONE, THAT'S A VERY SMALL, I BELIEVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE.

HOW MANY CITATIONS ARE BEING WRITTEN AS COMPARED TO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PAYING THAN JUST DOWNTOWN? JUST DOWNTOWN. WOW. AND THEN DIVIDE THAT BY 654 PARKING SPOTS.

YEAH. 309,000. IF WE'RE PAYING $0.10 ON THAT, WE'RE LOSING $30,000 A YEAR IN REVENUE.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. LOOK AT ALEX. WELL, WE'RE NOT LOSING.

WE'RE WE'RE THE COST ABSORBING THE COST. WE'RE LOSING.

THEY ANTICIPATED THAT COST IN THAT FEE. YES. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES. WHAT WE NEED IS A COUNCIL ACTION FOR YOU ALL TO CHANGE THE DOWNTOWN PARKING PRICES.

YOU BRING THAT LAST MINUTE? NO, WE DISCUSSED IT, BUT YOU BRING IT BACK FROM.

WE CAN. I'LL HAVE HEATHER IN MUNICIPAL COURT COME UP WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, AND WE'LL BRING CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT MEETING TO VOTE ON ON SOMETHING.

YES. IS EVERYONE WARM ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE NOT COLLECTING THE.

YES. NO. THAT'S FINE. I'M ALL FOR IT. GOTCHA.

GOD, IT MAKES LIFE EASIER. JUST. JUST SO YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WHEN WE INITIALLY TRANSITIONED TO THE NEW CONTRACT THIS YEAR, AND THEY PUT THE, THEY UPDATED ALL THE PAY BY PHONE APP, THERE WAS A GLITCH THAT THEY DID THAT.

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THEY ADDED THE FEE AFTER THE FACT. AND WE RECEIVED A LARGE AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT WHAT IS THIS FEE? WHAT IS THIS FEE? WHAT IS THIS FEE? WE WOULD HAVE TO DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE NOTIFY EVERYBODY. WE'D HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AHEAD OF TIME, THAT THE COLLECTION IS CHANGING NOW. AND THIS IS A METHOD THAT ALL OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND STUFF TOO.

SO THAT WAY THEY WOULD KNOW. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

IS THIS IS THIS AN ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE RENEWING? IT'S AN ANNUAL RIGHT NOW. WE PLAN ON GOING OUT FOR RFP FOR A FIVE YEAR.

USUALLY IT'S THREE WITH TWO. ONE YEAR RENEWALS IS HOW WE TRY TO DO IT.

THEY MAKE A PRETTY BIG INVESTMENT IN THINGS, SO WE TRY TO GIVE THEM THREE UP FRONT AND WE HAVE OPTIONS OF ONE YEAR RENEWALS. THIS MIGHT BE A SILLY QUESTION, BUT ARE WE WRITING THEM A CHECK FOR THE TRANSACTION FEE OR DOES IT WE GET BILLED EVERY MONTH FOR THE TRANSACTION FEES.

OKAY. MARIE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON YOUR ITEM? I'D LIKE TO BRING UP A TOPIC THAT I THINK IS COVERED IN THIS.

WE ARE ISSUING TICKETS DOWNTOWN. WE'RE ISSUING TICKETS, BUT NOBODY KNOWS THEY'RE GETTING A TICKET.

NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE. WELL, THAT'S NUMBER I KNOW THAT'S NOT DOWNTOWN MAYOR.

THEY GET A TICKET. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING.

WELL, THREE I'S. YEAH. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING.

OH, YEAH. WE HAVE PAPER TICKETS. PAPER TICKETS DOWNTOWN? YES. PEOPLE. PEOPLE DON'T GET TICKETS. THEN THEY'RE BLOWING OFF.

SO WE WE HAVE WE HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE. AND THIS IS ALL OVER THE ISLAND WHERE WE HAVE PAID PARKING.

PEOPLE'S FIRST NOTICE. AND I'VE HAD IT HAPPEN TO ME.

PEOPLE'S FIRST NOTICE ON A TICKET IS THEY GET A LETTER FROM LIONBERGER LAWYER COLLECTION FEE THAT YOU GOT A TICKET. LIKE, WHEN DID I GET A TICKET? I DIDN'T SEE A TICKET. EVEN MORE SO NOW. WE FOUND OUT THAT HANDICAPPED PEOPLE ARE GETTING TICKETED.

MORE DISAPPOINTING IS WHEN THEY'RE CALLING UP ABOUT THE TICKET.

THEY'RE TOLD, WELL, YOU JUST GO TO COURT AND BRING YOUR PLACARD.

WELL, THEY'RE HANDICAPPED. YOU'RE MAKING THEM GO TO COURT.

THERE SHOULD BE A BETTER SYSTEM FOR THAT. I HAVE A LITTLE INFORMATION ON THAT ALSO.

WELL, LET ME CLARIFY. ARE ALL TICKETS THAT ARE ISSUED FOR PARKING DOWNTOWN? THEY GET A PAPER TICKET. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I'M BEING TOLD THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

BRANDON. PAPER TICKET ON THE WINDSHIELD AND PAPER TICKET.

WHENEVER WE ISSUE A TICKET, A CITATION DOWNTOWN, WE PUT THE TICKET ON THE WINDOW.

ON THE WINDOW? YES, SIR. OKAY, I'M GETTING INPUT THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING NOTIFIED THEY GOT A TICKET AND THEY NEVER HAD ANYTHING ON THERE, YOU KNOW? MAYOR. THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM AS LONG AS TIME BECAUSE MY DAD TELLS STORIES WHEN HE WORKED AT SANTA FE RAILROAD IS THE PEOPLE THEY DIDN'T LIKE.

THEY'D GO PULL THE TICKETS OFF THEIR WINDSHIELDS SO THEY WOULD GO TO. SO IT'S NOT A NEW PROBLEM, BUT IT IS. YOU'RE ISSUING A PAPER TICKET? YES, SIR.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LICENSE PLATE READER. YES.

IT VERIFIES THE PAPER. FOR DOWNTOWN, WE USE THE LICENSE PLATE READER TO VERIFY IF THE PERSON HAS PAID FOR PARKING AND TO START THE TIME IF THEY HAVEN'T PAID FOR PARKING, WHICH THEY HAVE THAT 15 MINUTE PERIOD. YES.

RIGHT. DOWNTOWN YOU RECEIVE AN INSTANT TICKET IF YOU'RE PARKED IN THE RED, PARKED ON THE FIRE HYDRANT, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THE SEAWALL, IF IT'S PAID, PARKING.

THE INVOICES ARE SENT. THE CITATIONS ARE SENT THROUGH THE MAIL TO PAPER TICKETS, NOT PUT ON THEIR WINDSHIELD.

NOT FOR PAID PARKING ON THE SEAWALL. IF IT'S RED ZONE, STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE AND HANDICAP WE DO ISSUE PAPER TICKETS FOR THAT.

IT'S JUST THE PAID PARKING ON THE GOOD TO KNOW YOU ISSUE A PAY A PAPER TICKET WHEN SOMEONE HAS A HANDICAP PLACARD.

NO. NO MA'AM. WE ISSUE A PAPER TICKET IF SOMEONE'S PARKED IN A HANDICAPPED SPOT ILLEGALLY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME ISSUE DOWNTOWN THAT WE HAVE ON THE SEAWALL DOWNTOWN.

THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND AND THEY CAN VISIBLY SEE THOSE HANDICAPPED PLACARDS ON THE CARS SEAWALL.

WE'RE USING LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT THEN THAT INFORMATION SENT TO TEGNA AND THEN THAT CITATION IS AUTOMATICALLY.

THAT'S A THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE BYPRODUCT BECAUSE WE WE USED TO ALLOW THEM TO THEY GOT OUT AND HAND TICKETED THE CARS.

WE GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT SLOWING TRAFFIC, SO WE WENT TO PAY BY MAIL.

THE LICENSE PLATE READER, WHEN YOU HANG THE PLACARD ISN'T PICKING THAT UP.

AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING A PERSON WALKING TO CHECK ALL THE CARS.

SO MAYBE WE DON'T NEED CARDS. MAYBE WE NEED PEOPLE ON SEGWAYS WITH A LICENSE PLATE READER.

AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT ON THE SEGWAYS WON'T RUN THE SYSTEMS. WE LOOKED AT SOLUTIONS TO THE PLACARD ISSUE. WE TALKED TO THE THERE ARE SOME THIRD PARTY AI SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS, BUT NO ONE IS USING THIS YET.

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AND THOSE SOLUTIONS PROBABLY STARTED ABOUT 75,000 AND GO UP.

WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO RENEW OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS IN THE NEAR FUTURE BECAUSE THEY'RE REACHING THE END OF LIFE, IF NEW LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THIS, IF WE ENHANCE THEM, NEW LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE NOT CAPABLE OF RESEARCHING THOSE OR LOOKING AT THOSE PLACARDS. SO WE'RE TALKING AI SOFTWARE.

THE ONLY OTHER OPTION THAT EVEN A LICENSE PLATE READER CAN'T READ A HANDICAPPED LICENSE PLATE.

PLATE? YES, WE'RE NOT HAVING PLACARDS HANGING UP PLACARDS BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE WITH HANDICAP PLATES.

THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN, BUT I CAN'T SAY IT HAS NOT RECEIVED NO COMPLAINTS.

WE'VE RECEIVED HANDICAPPED COMPLAINTS, BUT NOBODY WITH A HANDICAP PLATE.

ONLY PEOPLE WITH PLACARDS. NOW, ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING ALSO IS ADDING LANGUAGE TO THE LETTERS THAT GO OUT TO VIOLATION, LETTERS THAT CLEARLY STATE AND GIVE THE THE RECEIVER A SOLUTION IF THEY HAD A VALID HANDICAP PLACARD HANGING UP.

WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE ONTO THE LETTERS THAT ARE SENT OUT.

HOW TO RESOLVE THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO MUNICIPAL COURT.

SO THAT IT'S NOT AN UNKNOWN. SO THAT THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT CONFUSED.

SO IF THEY GET THESE LETTERS ON THE VIOLATION, HERE'S AN OPTION.

NOW IF YOU FALL UNDER THIS HANDICAP PLACARD, THEY SEND A PICTURE.

IT'S IN THERE. SO WE'RE AN ISLAND. WE HAVE BOAT TOURS AND WE HAVE RESIDENTS.

AND THE TICKET WE RECEIVED A THING FOR WAS A DOWNTOWN TICKET.

WE NEVER GOT A DOWNTOWN TICKET. WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE ATTORNEY.

YES. THAT WAS OUR FIRST THING FROM THE CITY. SO A PERSON VISITING OR.

I'M A CITIZEN. TO ME, THAT IS NOT A USER FRIENDLY THING THAT ARE FOR YOUR FIRST NOTICE COMES FROM A COLLECTION AGENCY ATTORNEY.

WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU GOT A TICKET. I MEAN, WE'RE PUTTING THE TICKETS ON THE CARS.

IF THE TICKET DISAPPEARS, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT TICKET ON A CAR DOWNTOWN, AND I SAW THREE OF THEM DRIVE AROUND WITH THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS ON WET WINDSHIELDS WITH THEM RUNNING YESTERDAY. SO I KNOW WE'RE PUTTING THEM OFF. I GET THEM, I KNOW.

SO THEY'RE PUTTING THEM ON THE CARS? YES. CAN I CAN I FINISH MY POINT? THANK YOU. SO THERE ISN'T ANY WAY, BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE SOME AUTOMATION, THAT A LETTER COULD COME OUT FIRST FROM THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF MUNICIPAL COURT HAS THAT OPTION, IF IT WOULD BE COST EFFECTIVE.

I DON'T KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A MUNICIPAL COURT.

THAT WOULD BE AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION IF WE DID IT.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO COURT. YOU'RE YOU'RE BEING IT'S EITHER PAY THIS OR YOU'RE GOING TO COURT AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU GOT A TICKET, RIGHT UNTIL YOU GET THAT. SO LIKE, HE'S ALREADY HE'S ALREADY GONE TO COLLECTIONS AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU'VE GOTTEN A TICKET. AND ON ON THE SEAWALL ESPECIALLY. SO THE FIRST THING THEY GET ON THE SEAWALL IS A LIME BURGER.

NO. IT IS. THE FIRST THING YOU GET ON THE SEAWALL IS A VIOLATION.

NOTICE FROM THAT'S MADE BY G-TECH, BUT FROM THE CITY.

OKAY. SO WE ALREADY HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE ON THE SEAWALL.

THAT'S A LETTER NOTIFYING YOU THAT YOU GOT A TICKET, THAT, GEE, TECHNICIANS DO THAT SAME THING DOWNTOWN OR IN THE UTB.

I MEAN, LIKE, WHAT, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THE PROBLEM? YOU HAVE A PATIENT IN UTB AND YOU'RE PARKED AT UT MB AND YOU DON'T GET A TICKET ON YOUR CAR, OR SOMEBODY TAKES YOUR TICKET OFF YOUR CAR, AND THE FIRST THING YOU GET IS A NOTICE FROM THE COLLECTION AGENCY.

I'M JUST WONDERING HOW OFTEN THAT HAPPENS. I KNOW IT HAPPENED TO ME.

YEAH, I MEAN, I, I'M HEARING IT HAPPENS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IF YOU'D FORWARD THOSE TO US IT'D BE INTERESTING. SO THAT WAY WE COULD TRACK IT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY TAKE PICTURES. SO WE KNOW BRANDON CITATIONS ON THE SEAWALL.

DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER OFFHAND FOR LAST YEAR? YES, I THINK IT WAS CLOSE TO 28,000 CITATIONS ON THE SEAWALL LAST YEAR, BUT 28 CITATIONS THAT THEY DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM THE CITY FIRST. SO YEAH, THERE WAS ABOUT THERE WAS ABOUT 30,000 CITATIONS ISSUED ON THE SEAWALL, BUT THEY GOT A LETTER FROM THE CITY FIRST, AND THEN THEY GOT SOMETHING ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE ISLAND.

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THE FIRST NOTICE YOU GET IS FROM A COLLECTION FIRM LAWYER, AND YOU ALREADY HAVE PENALTIES AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU GOT A TICKET. I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST.

I HAPPEN TO BE THE ONE OF THE OFFENDERS IN THE UTMB AREA, AND I CAN TELL YOU FOR CERTAIN THAT I RECEIVED THAT CITATION ON MY WINDSHIELD MORE THAN ONCE. DID YOU TAKE THE G. TAKE THE PACKAGE. I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD, I APOLOGIZE. NO, MY POINT IS, WE'RE A WE'RE A TOURIST ISLAND.

WE'RE A UTMB ISLAND. WE ARE ALL THESE THINGS.

AND THERE IS NOTHING MORE WELCOMING THAN RECEIVING A LETTER FROM A COLLECTION AGENCY.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE HANDICAPPED, A COLLECTION AGENCY OR AN ATTORNEY WHERE YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING FEES AND YOU DON'T.

IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO GO TO TICKET BY MAIL DOWNTOWN, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.

THERE IS A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THERE'S A FEE THAT WOULD CUT INTO YOUR DOWNTOWN, CONTRACT THE SERVICES WHEN THEY GET THAT CITATION, WHEN THEY ISSUE CITATION BASED ON NONPAYMENT.

THERE'S A FEE FOR RUNNING THAT PLATE AND GETTING THE REGISTERED OWNER, AND THEN A FEE FOR SENDING THAT LETTER OUT.

SO THERE ARE FEES INCORPORATED WITH EACH CITATION OR EACH LETTER OF VIOLATION THAT'S SENT OUT.

IF YOU DID THAT WHERE YOU DON'T PUT SOMETHING ON THE WINDSHIELD, WHICH IS THE SEAWALL, I THINK I UNDERSTAND FROM FROM THE DATE OF VIOLATION TO THE DATE OF PAYMENT IS 21 DAYS. WE'RE WORKING ON IT. ALSO MUNICIPAL.

SO IT'S 21 DAYS. SO THE OLD SO BEFORE THE CITY WENT WITH CITATION BY MEL ON THE SEAWALL.

IT USED TO BE 14 DAYS. SO 14 DAYS FROM THE DATE THAT YOU RECEIVED THAT CITATION ON YOUR WINDSHIELD, YOU HAD TO REACH OUT TO THE COURT, RIGHT TO SETTLE WHEN THEY WENT WITH PAY.

PAY BY CITATION, BY MAIL FOR SEAWALL. IT WAS EXTENDED TO 21 DAYS.

AND SO IT'S YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE COURT WITHIN 21 DAYS TO CONTEST IT.

SETTLE IT. YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE COURT ON THAT.

YOU GAVE SO YOU DON'T. AND YOU GET A LETTER FROM LINEBERGER.

SO AFTER 21 DAYS, THE CITY ISSUES A LATE FEE AND THEN 60 DAYS ONCE YOU HAVE HIT 60 DAYS PAST DUE. PASS THE 21 DAYS IS REFERRED OVER TO LINEBERGER.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE A LETTER FROM LINEBERGER. OKAY. YOU WENT SEVEN EXTRA DAYS TO COVER YOUR MAILING TO ALLOW FOR TIME TO GET THEM PRINTED AND IN THE MAIL.

AND AND SO WE WERE FIRST NOTIFICATION IF YOU'RE PARKING ON THE SEAWALL THAT YOU HAVE PARKED ILLEGALLY, YOU GOT A VIOLATION. IT'S WHEN IS IS HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES TO PRINT AND MAIL AND GET IT INTO YOUR AND GET IT INTO YOUR.

OKAY, THAT'S CERTAINLY LESS THAN 21 DAYS IN BOTH SITUATIONS.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. WITH ANOTHER MAILING I MEAN THEY GOTTA MAIL IT.

YEAH. SO I THINK FROM A CONTRACT PERSPECTIVE AND I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THERE THE CONTRACT.

YOU KNOW THERE IS SOME TYPE OF PERFORMANCE THAT THE VENDOR WAS INTENDED TO HAVE THOSE OUT WITHIN A PREDETERMINED PERIOD OF TIME SO THAT THAT 21 DAYS WOULD BE VALID.

SOME WOULD ARGUE THE POSTAL SERVICE IS ABOUT AS RELIABLE AS YOUR TICKET STAYING ON THE WINDSHIELD. OH, YEAH. YEAH.

RIGHT, RIGHT. SO YOU DO HAVE THOSE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS THAT MAY ARISE IN THE QUESTION AND SHARE THOSE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

AND YOU'RE ASSUMING THE CAR WAS REGISTERED TO THE PROPER ADDRESS WHEN YOU MAILED IT. YEAH.

ALEX, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WELL, WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS, ABOUT HOW WE GET COLLECTIONS IN AND WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AMNESTY. DONNA, DID WE SPEAK TO LINEBARGER ON ANY PARTICULAR SOLUTION MOVING FORWARD? OR. WE SAID WE NEED TO SPEAK TO LINEBARGER SINCE THEY HAVE THE CONTRACT AND WE'RE TALKING YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE DAN IS ALSO GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT WITH TREVOR, AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED AN UPDATE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. FIRST OF ALL, MR. BRACEWELL.

AND COULD YOU HELP IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE CAMERAS THERE? YEAH. I'M HOPE DEAN AND I HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER MUNICIPAL COURTS.

BRENDON BRACEWELL, PARKING ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR. OKAY, SO WHERE ARE WE HEADING NOW? ON THE SITUATION THAT MARIE HAS BROUGHT UP. COUNCIL WHAT? WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION AND SOME HEATHER. AND WE'LL PRESENT I GUESS, A PACKAGE OF OPTIONS AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDED FEES WOULD BE.

AND HOW WE CAN SEPARATE THE THE THE G-TECH, NAFISA, I MEAN, THE PAY BY PHONE FEES AWAY FROM THE PARKING, BUT WE'LL COME UP WITH I GUESS A LISTING OF DIFFERENT FEES, EITHER STARTING OFF WITH AN HOUR AND A HALF OR AN HOUR AND THEN GOING TO 30 MINUTE INCREMENTS AND WHAT THOSE INCREMENTS WOULD, WOULD COST BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. HOWEVER, YOU ALL WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AND WHATEVER Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.

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SO THE GEOTAG OR THE WHAT THE OTHER COMPANY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IS G-TECH NOT PART OF LICENSE PLATE READER. OKAY. SO THEY'RE THE ONES GENERATING THE LETTER FROM THE CITY ON THE SEAWALL.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RECEIVING THE DMV RESPONSE.

CAN YOU FIND OUT HOW LONG THAT PROCESS ACTUALLY IS? FOR DETERMINING WHEN IT ACTUALLY GETS MAILED.

WE ARE ACTUALLY IN DIALOG WITH THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT I.

YES, THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION THAT'S BEEN GOING.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT SENDING IT OUT FOR 21 DAYS, THE PERSON ALREADY HAS A FINE.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND AND SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S A PROBLEM.

IT IS MAKING SURE THAT IT IS GETTING OUT TIMELY WITHIN THAT COMPRESSED PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT BASED ON THAT SEVEN DAY CHANGE TO THE 14 TO THE 21 DAYS. AND SO WE ARE REVIEWING THAT WITH GTAC RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN BACK TO ALEX. OTHER PORTION OF THIS QUESTION.

WHERE ARE WE ON DOING LIKE AN AMNESTY MONTH? SO THE LAST I HEARD IS WE WERE REACHING OUT, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO REACH OUT.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU DID ASK. DONNA WAS GOING TO REACH OUT TO EL PASO AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH EL PASO, AS WELL AS WORK WITH LINEBARGER TO SEE ABOUT WAIVING THEIR FEES IN EL PASO.

I THINK THEY'RE THE ONES I GAVE THE AMNESTY PROGRAM.

I GAVE AN EXAMPLE THAT LINEBARGER THAT LINEBARGER WAS ALSO HAD OVERSIGHT OVER THEIR COLLECTIONS AND, AND THAT'S AND THAT'S IN PROGRESS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN POTENTIALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN BASED ON THE TIMELINE THAT YOU ALL CAN YOU BRING THAT BACK FOR NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY? HAVE DETAILS? ABSOLUTELY. I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL HAVE DESIRED SOMETHING IN A FULL TIME FRAME, RIGHT? YEAH, IT STARTED IN APRIL. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

IF YOU COULD BRING THAT IN FEBRUARY SO THAT WE COULD SEE AND LET COUNCIL WEIGH IN ON THAT.

AND WE ALSO, I THINK, WANT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE OPTIONS FOR HANGTAG DETECTIONS OR HOW WE HANDLE HANGTAG.

I JUST DON'T KNOW OF AN EFFICIENT METHOD OTHER THAN ADDING THE LANGUAGE TO THE VIOLATION LETTERS.

THE COST, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN THE THE AI SOFTWARE IS IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW.

WE DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO IS USING IT AND WE DON'T KNOW THIRD PARTY VENDORS.

HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVEN AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW FOR THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO EVERY, EVERY CARD SCANS BY IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A RED FLAG.

IF AI CATCHES THE PLACARD, YOU KNOW, HANGING UP THE PLACARDS AREN'T TIED TO THE CARS, WHICH IS ANOTHER ISSUE TO THE PEOPLE.

AND AND ALSO IT WILL ALSO TAKE STAFF EDUCATION BECAUSE IN THE VERY FIRST CASE I WAS MADE AWARE OF, THEY HAD CALLED THE DEPARTMENT AND THEY WERE TOLD THEIR ONLY OPTION WAS TO GO TO COURT.

AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE MAKING A HANDICAPPED PERSON GO TO COURT TO PROVE THEY'RE HANDICAPPED.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.

SO I BELIEVE OUR ORDINANCE DOES STATE IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON, YOU MUST APPEAR AT THE COURT WITH THAT HANDICAP INFORMATION.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED. WE NEED TO CHANGE.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS IF THEY ARE NOT HERE, OBVIOUSLY THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT.

AND SO THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED TO THE COURT IN ORDER TO GET THOSE FEES WAIVED.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE TO THAT ORDINANCE ON THE NEXT ROBB SAID.

THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT. YES, THE LANGUAGE, BUT THE CHANGE, SHE JUST SAID YES BY ORDINANCE.

IT SAYS IF YOU LIVE IN GALVESTON AND YOU'RE YOUR HANDICAP, YOUR ONLY OPTION IS TO APPEAR IN COURT.

THAT'S APPALLING. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. SECOND STEP? YES, BUT YOU'LL HAVE. COULD YOU BRING US BACK SOMETHING? YES. WHEN IT ALL CHANGES, WE'LL CHANGE IT TOGETHER. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO BRING UP THAT FIRST LETTER THAT GOES OUT.

I'VE RECEIVED ONE ON THE ON THE BEACH. I PARKED THERE ACROSS FROM SALTGRASS.

SO I'M THAT 1% OUT OF WHATEVER NUMBER YOU SAID.

BUT I DO HAVE A HANDICAP PLACARD. AND I WENT TO THE COURTS, WENT TO THE WINDOW AND SHOWED IT TO THEM.

SO DOES THAT A REQUIREMENT APPEAR AFTER YOU'VE MISSED THAT FIRST LETTER THAT YOU HAVE TO GO IN PERSON TO SHOW IT? SO WHEN YOU RECEIVE YOUR NOTICE OF VIOLATION IT WILL GIVE YOU A SET OF INSTRUCTIONS THAT TELL YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE COURT IF YOU WANT TO CONTEST IT AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE LANGUAGE IN THERE. AND IT PRETTY MUCH MIMICS WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE.

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SO IF YOU GO TO THE COURT AND TAKE YOUR PLACARD UP THERE, THEY'RE GOING DISMISS THAT.

I KNOW, BUT I DIDN'T GO. I WENT TO THE WINDOW.

YOU WENT TO THE WINDOW AT COURT. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

SO AFTER THE FIRST LETTER, WHEN I GOT MY FIRST LETTER, I WENT AND TOOK CARE OF IT.

SO WHEN YOU GET THE SECOND, DO YOU HAVE TO APPEAR PERSONALLY IN COURT WITH THAT? THE SECOND LETTER IS A LETTER FROM OUR COLLECTION AGENT.

YEAH, FROM THE COLLECTION AGENT. THE ONE THAT MARIE IS, THEY DIRECT YOU BACK TO THE COURT FOR ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS.

OKAY. DID YOU EVEN GET A COLLECTION LETTER? I'VE NEVER TAKEN CARE OF IT.

NO, I'VE NEVER HAD A COLLECTION LETTER. I'VE ALREADY. I'VE ALWAYS PAID MINE, BUT I HAD NO IDEA WE GOT IT DESCRIBED RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.

SO YOU WERE. ALL WE GOT WAS WE JUST PAID IT. BUT IT DID THROW UP A BIG RED FLAG TO ME THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, YOU KNOW? YEAH, WE JUST PAID IT, BUT WE'RE.

BUT WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THAT? MAJORITY. I'M JUST.

I CAN GET YOU A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY MAJORITY OF YOU KNOW WHAT MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING A LINEBACKER LETTER.

OBVIOUSLY WE ONLY HAVE 21% COLLECTION RATE. THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING A LETTER CORRECT, BUT THAT'S NOT SAYING THEY DIDN'T GET A TICKET. YEAH, I AGREE, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

I'M SAYING THAT IT WAS HOW MANY? THE QUESTION WAS HOW MANY PEOPLE GET THAT LETTER? AND THAT'S 80%. TO LEAVE THIS SUBJECT, I'M GOING TO ASK MARIE YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING A TICKET DOWNTOWN AND NEVER HAVING ANYTHING PUT ON THEIR WINDSHIELD? WELL, HOW DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS? DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT? WELL, I MEAN, WE JUST FOUND OUT TODAY THAT IF IT'S ON THE SEAWALL, THEY GET A NOTICE FROM THE CITY.

IF I JUST THINK THE FIRST LETTER SHOULDN'T COME FROM A COLLECTION LETTER, IT SHOULD COME FROM THE CITY.

THEY SAY THEY HAVE NO WAY OF DOING THAT. SO ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS THAT I, THAT I HEARD WAS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE DOING TICKETS BY MAIL IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND I THINK MAYBE NOT A TICKET, BUT A BUT A NOTICE IF YOU DID GET A TICKET.

AND I'VE LOOKED I THINK, I THINK THE COST IS THE SAME WITH THAT IS THE COST.

BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU RUN A LICENSE PLATE THROUGH THE DMV, THEY CHARGE THE CITY AND THEN CHARGES THE CITY FOR THE ACTUAL MAILING OF THAT. SO IF YOU AND SO LET ME ASK FOR CLARIFICATION HERE.

WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY POTENTIALLY IS YOU WANT TO ISSUE THE CITATION ON THE WINDSHIELD, BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO SEND POTENTIALLY A LETTER.

CORRECT. WHAT THAT TO ME WHAT THAT DOES AND YOU KNOW MORE OF A RESIDENT THING THAN A TOURIST THING, BUT ALSO A TOURIST THING. U O U O U O X. RIGHT.

YOU GOT A TICKET? HEY, I NEVER GOT A. AND LOOK, I'VE GOTTEN PARKING TICKETS.

I'VE GOT ONE WHERE I WAS PULLING. NOT FROM THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

THIS WAS HOUSTON. I WAS PULLING OUT OF THE PARKING SPOT AND THEY RAN UP, PUT THE TICKET ON AND TOOK A PICTURE.

AND I WON THAT DISPUTE BECAUSE I WAS MOVING THE VEHICLE.

IT WASN'T OVER PARKED OVER ALL OFFENSES, BUT JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAY THEIR TICKET WITHOUT THE FEES AND FINES ON THE BACK END. I THINK THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE GET HUNG UP ON IS.

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT A LETTER TO GO OUT BEFORE IT GOES TO LINEBACKER? YEAH. AND SO, SO SO WE WOULD HAVE TO. SO AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO GO BACK.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ABSORB THE FEES OF RUNNING THE DMV TO GET.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN THEY ISSUE THE ISSUED A CITATION OR ISSUING A CITATION TO A LICENSE PLATE NUMBER.

THE COURT, UNLESS YOU RUN IT THROUGH THE DMV, THE COURT WOULDN'T KNOW WHO TO SEND THAT CITATION TO.

SO IT HAS TO GO TO THE DMV. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE PAY LINEBARGER TO DO.

AND SO, YEAH. AND SO WHEN YOU GET THAT LETTER FROM LINEBARGER, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THEIR SEPARATION. THEY'VE ALREADY GONE OUT AND THEY'VE DONE THAT. AND THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. SO IF IT IS GOING TO BE A TWO STEP PROCESS PUT IT ON.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS TO MENTION. YOU WOULD HAVE TO EXTEND YOUR POTENTIAL 21 DAYS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT EXTRA STEP IN THE PROCESS. AND THEN THE CITY WOULD ABSORB SOME ADDITIONAL COST IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

IT SEEMS TO ME THE SOLUTION IS JUST MAKE SURE THAT DOWNTOWN THEY ALL HAVE A CITATION ON THEIR WINJE.

MAYBE WE NEED TO BUY AN EXTRA STICKY GLUE WHEN WE'RE STICKING BECAUSE WE REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT.

WE WE ONLY TAKE PHOTOS OF THE CITATION. IF IT'S FOR HANDICAP VIOLATION PARKED IN RED, THEN WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE FRONT WINDSHIELD SHOWING THE CITATION ON THERE. USUALLY CATCHES THE REGISTRATION NUMBER.

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NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT JUST MAKE SURE WE GET THE TICKETS ON THE WINDSHIELD, BECAUSE IF YOU IF THERE'S A STICKY OR A WAY TO DO IT, WELL, IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEND A LETTER TO EVERY TICKET THAT WHEN I WENT TO A&M, THEY WOULD PUT THESE STICKERS ON THE 11,000, 11,000, 11,000 CITATIONS ON THE YES DOWNTOWN.

AND HOW MANY OF THOSE STICKERS THAT YOU COULD NEVER GET OFF YOUR WINDOW WHEN THEY PUT THEM ON THERE? OKAY, SO I HAVE I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. SO WE KNOW OUR COLLECTION RANGE IS IN THE 20S.

SO WHAT DO WE PAY? LINEBERGER. LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET YOU OUR COLLECTION RATES.

I BELIEVE THE CLARKSTON RATES ARE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THAT. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHAT THEY CAME FROM. THAT'S WHAT THEY THAT'S WHAT THEY COLLECT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE COURT BRINGS IN OUTSIDE OF THAT.

WELL, COULD YOU GIVE US ALL THE FINANCIAL DETAILS ON ALL THE TICKETS YOU PROJECT BASED ON LAST YEAR'S 11,000 TICKETS, WHAT IT WOULD COST, IT WOULD COST TO MAIL IT, TO MAIL, TO CHECK THE DMV INFORMATION TO GIVE.

AND IF IT'S ONLY RESIDENTS, WHICH I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO THE DMV FEE ON LOOKING UP WHAT IT IS.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE DO THAT. AND I'D LIKE TO GO ON A RIDE ALONG TO TO SEE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE PROCESS OF HOW IT WORKS.

AND I'M SURE YOU CAN SEE A PLACARD IF THEY'RE PARKED IN A OR IF THEY'RE DOWNTOWN.

IT'S IF WE ISSUE A CITATION, WE'LL PRINT IT OUT AND WE WALK UP TO THE CAR AND THEY HAVE A PLACARD.

WE GET BACK IN THE CAR, WE VOID THE CITATION OUT.

IF IT'S A VALID PLACARD, RIGHT. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ALTER PLACARDS DOWNTOWN, CHANGE THE DATES, STUFF LIKE THAT. THESE DEAD RELATIVES PLACARDS, YES, YOU CAN BRING YOUR PLACARD TO COURT WHEN THERE'S A REASON.

OKAY. CAN WE CAN WE KIND OF MOVE ON FROM THIS? YES WE DID. DID WE TALK 3G? THAT'S THE ONE WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED.

SHARON. WELL, YEAH, WE I MEAN, 3G, WE DID NOT DISCUSS.

I WANT TO BRING THIS TOPIC UP. I THINK WE'VE ALL RECEIVED SOME KIND OF COMMUNICATION ABOUT EMPLOYEE AND RESIDENT PARKING IN TOWN.

I'M GOING TO BE HONEST. WE'VE GONE WE'VE DONE DISCUSSIONS EVER SINCE I'VE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS. I THINK THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION IS HAVING AN AREA WHERE THESE RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES CAN PARK THAT IS CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR.

BUT TO BE HONEST, THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO, I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS THAT OTHER CITIES DO AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BENEFIT OUR CITIZENS AND IT WOULD BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTS. SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, JANUARY IS A DEAD MONTH FOR US.

OUR RESTAURANTS, OUR STORES, THEY'RE ALL HAVING A HARD TIME.

HENCE WHY WE HAVE RESTAURANT WEEK. SO LIKE OTHER CITIES THAT I HAVE BEEN IN FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOCAL LIKE ONE CITY, THEY'RE DEAD.

MONTH IS OCTOBER. SO FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, THEY DON'T CHARGE RESIDENTS TO PARK DOWNTOWN, WHICH MAKES MORE PEOPLE GO DOWN. I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT? HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU'D NEVER DO THIS? AND IF YOU DID THAT, THEN THERE'D BE NO PARKING FOR THE BUSINESSES FOR THAT MONTH.

BECAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ARE RESIDENTS, AND THEY TAKE THE SPOTS. YEAH. YOU'D NEVER HAVE PARKING FOR CUSTOMERS. I'M JUST SHARING WHAT WORKS WELL IN ANOTHER CITY, AND IT BENEFITS THE BUSINESSES BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE LIKELY TO GO DOWNTOWN THAN GO TO A RESTAURANT WEEK. GO TO RESTAURANT WEEK. YOU'RE NOT PAYING TO PARK.

I'M JUST SAYING WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE. THE OTHER THING THAT OTHER CITIES I'VE SEEN HAVE DONE IS THEY'LL ACTUALLY THAT CAN BE USED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

THEY'LL DO A DISCOUNT LIKE A DISCOUNT THING WHERE YOU'RE STILL PAYING, BUT IT'S DISCOUNTED.

AND I MEAN, I COULD CALL SOME OF THESE PLACES AND ASK THEM HOW THEY'RE DOING, BUT THEY'RE RESORT TOWN, SAME ISSUES, SAME. THEY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE.

I THINK WHAT'S CONFUSING IS YOU LOOK AT THE SEAWALL.

SEASON PASS AT $45. I THINK ANYONE IS CRAZY. THAT CAN BE AND THAT CAN BE APPLIED DOWNTOWN.

THERE'S JUST NO WAY. I AGREE. YOU AVERAGE PASS.

IF YOU WERE TRYING TO RECOUP THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY WOULD PROBABLY BE 150 TO $200 A MONTH.

AT LEAST THOSE PRICES YOU CAN PROBABLY GET CHEAPER AT, YOU KNOW, LAND LOTS OR OTHER PARKING LOTS DOWN THERE.

BANK GARAGE THAT'S NOT FULL. WE HAVE THREE GARAGES DOWNTOWN THAT ARE MOSTLY EMPTY.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. THE WAY I MY CONVERSATIONS, THEY WANT SOMETHING THAT'S CLOSE BY WHERE THEY WORK OR LIVE

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DOWNTOWN AND NOT PAY A LOT OF MONEY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

WHETHER YOU LIVE DOWNTOWN OR YOU WORK, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. MARIE HAD A VERY GOOD POINT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THIS WHEEL.

THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES THAT DO THIS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW THEY DO IN REDWOOD, CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO US, IS THEY HAVE REMOTE PARKING FOR WORKERS DOWNTOWN.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CITY OWNED AND OR CONTROLLED OWNED PROPERTY PRETTY NEARBY THAT WE COULD EASILY PARK.

BUT EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR PARKING.

JUST GET THAT OUT OF YOUR HEAD. ANYTHING'S GOING TO BE FREE. AND THEY. YOU'RE CORRECT.

THERE ARE. I HAD AN IDEA OF SOME LAND THAT YOU COULD DO THIS ON, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A SHUTTLE BUS.

THEY CAN'T WALK TO THIS. AND IF WE CAN COORDINATE THAT WITH ISLAND TRANSIT SOMEHOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT, BUT CREATE A ROUTE. CREATE A ROUTE, CREATE A ROUTE THAT GOES EIGHT IN THE MORNING AND FIVE IN THE AFTERNOON OR WHATEVER, AND AND START USING IT THAT WAY AND GET THOSE EMPLOYEES, FIRST OF ALL, HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WORK.

SECONDLY, GET THEM OFF THE STREET. REMEMBER, WE LOSE MONEY ON EVERY TRANSIT PASSENGER.

SO IF YOU CREATE A NEW ROUTE THAT'S HIGHLY TRANSIT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT MORE MONEY IN TRANSIT TO PAY FOR IT.

THE EMPLOYEES OR THEIR EMPLOYER ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

WE JUST WE JUST GOT WE JUST GOT TO COVER OUR COST OR AT LEAST DO THAT ANALYSIS IF WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO USE SOMETHING OTHER THAN TRANSIT TO DO THAT.

WOULD I? MY FIRST STEP, I WOULD GO TO THE PARKING GARAGES, SEE WHAT THEY CHARGE AND HOW MANY SPACES ARE ACTUALLY EMPTY.

AND I KNOW WHEN I WORKED DOWNTOWN LIKE THAT FROST BANK ONE.

YEAH. I USED TO RENT SPACES FOR MY OFFICE WAS DOWNTOWN ON THE TOP FLOOR BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CHEAPEST, AND IT WAS LIKE $50 A MONTH PER CAR. THAT WAS MANY MOONS AGO.

DOLLARS A MONTH NOW. IT'S HOW MUCH? BUT I ONLY DID.

IT'S CHEAPER ON THE TOP FLOOR. I ONLY DID THE TOP FLOOR.

SO IT'S $150.75 ON THE. BUT THERE'S AND THEY ALSO BREAK IT DOWN FOR DAY USE OR 24 HOUR.

YEAH. YEAH. BUT IT WAS A RESALE SPOT FESTIVAL IN TOWN BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS HAD A PLACE TO PARK.

YEAH. WELL I WOULD, I WOULD LOOK AT THESE GARAGES AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO POSSIBLY WORK OUT OUR ARRANGEMENTS FOR RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES.

$150 A MONTH. PERSONALLY, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FAR LESS THAN THAT.

BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY COULD SUBSIDIZE.

I MEAN, WE DON'T. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SUBSIDIZE IT AGAIN.

ANYBODY WHO PARKS ANYWHERE IS GOING TO PAY SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GIVING FREE PARKING TO RESIDENTS OR EMPLOYEES. BUT IF YOU START SHUTTLING THEM AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S A COST TO THAT. WELL, IF IT'S DOWNTOWN, YOU'RE WALKABLE. NO, IT'S THERE'S A TON OF THE COST OF THE BUILDING, THE COST OF THE STRUCTURE, WHETHER WE BUILD IT, WHICH IS EXPONENTIALLY HIGH OR IF WE PURCHASE IT, EVEN IF WE PUT IT THROUGH A BOND, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME FORM OR FACTOR WHICH IT'S GOING TO BE SUBSIDIZED.

I'M TALKING ABOUT BUILDING ANYTHING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UTILIZING WHAT WE HAVE THAT'S SITTING EMPTY RIGHT NOW. WELL, WE WOULDN'T PROVIDE SHUTTLES. IF THEY HAVE THREE GARAGES DOWN THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WALK. THEY WALK TO WHERE THEIR DESTINATION IS.

YEAH. BUT WE JUST WE THERE'S A COST OF ACQUIRING SAID PROPERTY TO PARK THERE.

WE DON'T ACQUIRE PROPERTY. WE JUST SIGN A LEASE.

I KNOW, BRIAN, ON FESTIVAL WEEKENDS, WE CAN RENT OUT THE CITY'S PARKING LOT FOR $50 A DAY, AND THEN WE COULD GENERATE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.

PROBLEM IS, NOBODY AT CITY HALL LOT STAYS PRETTY MUCH EMPTY ON EVERY FESTIVAL EXCEPT FOR OKTOBERFEST, BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO WALK. I'M TRYING TO. EVEN IF WE SIGN A LEASE, WHY WOULD WHAT WOULD GIVE ANYBODY ANY INCENTIVE TO SIGN A LEASE? IF I CAN MAKE MORE MONEY DOING IT MYSELF AS A PRIVATE OPERATOR? I MEAN, UNLESS THEY'RE JUST ALTRUISTIC ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH THE CITY.

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, ALTRUISM IS FAR AND FEW IN BETWEEN.

AND AGAIN, IT COSTS SOMEBODY MONEY. SOME FORM OF.

AND IF YOU HAVE A LOT DOWNTOWN THAT YOU PARKING ON, YOU'RE DOING CRUISE PARKING ON IT.

YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS PARKING BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING WEEKEND.

I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN I INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW FOR ART WALK I PAY FOR THE PARKING.

THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH THAT I CAN WALK. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS RIGHT NOW, HERE TODAY.

BUT THIS MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER CAN HELP AND GO A LONG WAYS TOWARDS GETTING THE DATA I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND, AND THE BEST PRACTICES AND, AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME. WE DON'T HAVE TIME, EXPERTISE OR DATA TO FIGURE THIS OUT RIGHT NOW.

BUT THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE HIRE CONSULTANTS TO DO THIS.

I THINK WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT IN THAT WAY.

I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WEST MARKET AREA, WHO GO ON CRUISES AND PARK THEIR CARS ON THE STREET WHERE IT'S FREE.

I COULD NOT BELIEVE PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT. I WOULD, I WOULD JUST AS SOON PUT SPIKES IN MY EYES BEFORE I LEFT MY CAR,

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SITTING DOWN THERE FOR SEVEN DAYS, PARKED ON A STREET.

BUT THIS IS HAPPENING ALL THE TIME. AND THEN? THEN I'VE SEEN THEM BITCH ABOUT LIKE THEY WERE COMING BACK AND THEIR BAGS GOT STOLEN, AND THEY.

AND THEY HAD A BUILDING FALL ON ONE OF THE CARS.

YOU REMEMBER THAT? YEAH, BUT SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

AND TALKING TO PARKING. SOMEONE SENT OVER TO ME, AND THEY'RE NOW OUR SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT ARE SIMPLY SELLING CRUISE PARKING. PERIOD. IT'S ARE WE GOING TO CRACK DOWN ON.

OH MY GOD, I DON'T KNOW. THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS INVESTIGATING SEVERAL OF THOSE FOR ILLEGAL PARKING LOTS OUTSIDE OF SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE APPROPRIATE.

THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, GRADED CORRECTLY THAT THEY'RE ISSUING CITATIONS FOR THAT.

I GOT A LIST AND WE'VE TURNED THAT OVER TO THE CITY.

YEAH, I'LL SEND THE ONES I HAVE. OKAY. WELL, LET'S GIVE THIS THOUGHTS ON THE PARKING SITUATION.

YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING, THOUGH SOME GREAT CHANGES.

WE'LL HAVE SOME UPDATES FOR PARKING. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? I AM NOT VERY GOOD.

COUNCIL I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND IS 12:54 P.M., AND I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'M GOING TO ASK MISS FAIRWEATHER, DID YOU WANT YOURS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR OPEN IT? YOU CAN DO IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT I DO HAVE A REQUEST THAT MAYBE WE CAN DO THE 4B1 AND TWO ITEMS BEFORE.

YES, MA'AM. I SECOND THAT. THAT WAY I CAN STEP OUT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS IN THE OTHER ONE.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS 12:54 P.M.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

AND PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE CONDUCTED TO DISCUSS AND RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE CONCERNING PENDING LITIGATION AND OR SETTLEMENT.

OFFER ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENT BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING.

SOUTH SHORE PUMP STATION NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO.

NUMBER 25 CV 0913. AND THE 405TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF GALVESTON COUNTY, TEXAS.

CITY OF GALVESTON AND BRIAN MAXWELL VERSUS THE PARK.

BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON. JASON HARDCASTLE IN HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY.

AND THEN SECONDLY, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074, PERSONNEL MATTERS TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, OR DISCIPLINE OF ONE INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY.

WE ARE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I THINK I MAY HAVE.

IT IS 2:39 P.M., AND WE ARE NOW OUT OF OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP OF THURSDAY, JANUARY 22ND. AND WE ARE NOW MOVING BACK INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM THREE J PLEASE.

[3.J. Update of the Comprehensive Plan Status (B. Brown/C. Brown - 10 min)]

ITEM THREE J UPDATE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATUS.

BOB, I KNOW THIS IS A SUBJECT YOU WANTED TO. HI, PETE.

HELLO, COUNCIL AND PETE, MAYOR MILLBURN. YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW? I'LL JUST. I'LL JUST. I'LL JUST LET GIVE AN UPDATE HERE.

BUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S WE STARTED THIS IN MARCH OF 2024.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST I'M REALLY PLEASED NOW THAT WE FINALLY GOT FUNDED BY GLOW.

I JUST WANT TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM HERE. AND THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.

ITEM 11 DD, I THINK. RIGHT. SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS THE NEXT STEP IS YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THE GLOW CONTRACT ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY FOR APPROVAL. OKAY.

ONCE WE DO THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN ENDORSE THE CONTRACT.

AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS AND WE GET IT UP TO THE GLOW, WE'RE ON THE CLOCK.

YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT WITH THE GLOW? THE CONTRACT WITH THE GLOW?

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WELL, WE'RE BUYING, SO WHEN HE SIGNS IT, HE DOESN'T HAVE A FUNNY JOKE TO TELL US. HE NEVER HAS A FUNNY JOKE TO TELL CORNY, BUT MAYBE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE CAN EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH MAYBE TWO.

I CAN THINK, RIGHT. WELL, HERE'S THE DEAL. SO WHAT'S BEEN BENEFICIAL OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WHILE WE WERE WORKING ON THIS APPLICATION IS THAT YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO FORM THE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO GET THIS CONTRACT WITH OUR SECURE.

SO NOW IT'S JUST A MATTER OF EXECUTING PLUG AND PLAY.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO PUT THAT SO ELOQUENTLY.

THANK YOU. COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE CAMERA? OH, YES. PETE MILBURN PROJECT MANAGER, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO WE JUST MADE THE SPEED OF GOVERNMENT THAT MUCH FASTER.

WE DID. NICE. VERY GOOD. WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WHAT KIND OF TIME FRAME TO SECURE TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THEIR WORK.

AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO FIRST? DATA COLLECTION IS. THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO SO WHAT WE WILL BE DOING NEXT IS HAVING THE WE'RE SCHEDULING THE KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE GLO, AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE VENDORS IN FOR THAT, AND THEN FROM THERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO FORMULATE A TIMELINE AND BRING THE THE VENDOR IN TO GET ROLLING. WE'RE EXPECTING TO GET STARTED AROUND EARLY PART OF MARCH FOR THE KICKOFF.

YES. WELL, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THE KICKOFF WITH GLOW IN FEBRUARY.

YEAH, THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. OKAY. AND SO IN TERMS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, THE STEERING COMMITTEE STARTS MEETING AND THE MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL AND ALL THAT STUFF. WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT MIGHT HAPPEN? ONCE WE GET THE KICKOFF WITH THE GLOW IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A MATTER OF TIMING AND SCHEDULING. I COULDN'T SEE THAT BEING TOO MUCH FURTHER.

PLUS, WE'RE WE'RE ON THE CLOCK WITH THE JELLO, SO WE GOT TO GET MOVING WITH THIS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S THAT'S OUR TIME PERIOD RIGHT THERE.

FIRST JOB IS GOING TO BE TO COLLECT DATA GET A GET A BASELINE.

RIGHT. RIGHT? YES. SO THEN WE START THE MEETINGS, I GUESS AFTER THAT, JUST CONCEPTUALLY SPEAKING.

RIGHT. WELL, THE MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC. YEAH. FIRST THEY'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE INTERNAL MEETINGS WITH STAFF AND KEY STAKEHOLDERS.

YOU GUYS, THAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE STAKEHOLDERS.

RIGHT. SO MAYBE IN ABOUT 3 OR 4 MONTHS THEY MIGHT BE MEETING WITH US.

I WOULD THINK BEFORE THEN WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE? TWO YEARS. INITIALLY WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, IT WAS A TWO YEAR DEAL.

BUT FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE ENTIRETY THEY'RE GIVING US THREE YEARS.

NOW, WHEN I SAY COMPLETION OF THE ENTIRETY, THAT MEANS CLOSE OUT.

YEAH. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BUT THEN WE HAVE TO BRING THAT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

AND ONCE WE DO THAT, WE THEN HAVE TO INCORPORATE THE, THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN OUR ZONING THAT THE SO ALL OF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. SO WE HAVE TO DO COMP PLAN AND LDR AT THE SAME TIME EVERY YEAR.

TIME. YEAH. LDR IS AFTER LDR IS AFTER THE COMP.

CORRECT. LDR IS AFTER THE COMP PLAN. SO I'D LIKE TO TO THINK THAT WE CAN GET THE COMP PLAN COMPLETED IN THE 2015 LDR STATE.

WHEN DO WE START? YEAH, WAY BEFORE 2015. BUT BUT HERE'S THE THING.

BECAUSE AND THE GLOW IS AWARE OF THIS. BECAUSE OUR ELDERS STARTED BEFORE I GOT HERE AND I STARTED IN 2011 BECAUSE THEY'VE THEY'VE THE REWRITE HAS HAPPENED RELATIVELY RECENTLY IN TERMS OF CODES, DEVELOPMENT CODES.

SO GOING GOING INTO THE ELDERS AND MAKING SOME EDITS IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY BE AN ENTIRE REWRITE.

SO WE'LL JUST GO IN. IT WON'T BE AS INVOLVED AS IT WAS WHEN WE DID THE 2015, 2015 THE LDR.

TO RESPOND TO THE OUTCOME OF THE COMP PLAN. CORRECT.

SO YOU SAID THREE YEARS. I THOUGHT AT FIRST I HEARD IT WAS A YEAR FOR THE COMP PLAN YEAR FOR THE LDR, RIGHT? SO INITIALLY WHEN WE BEGAN THE APPLICATION, IT WAS A TWO YEAR DEAL.

YEAH. AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING TO ME, BUT THE GLOW HAS NOW ALLOTTED AN EXTRA YEAR FOR THIS PROJECT TO TAKE.

WHAT DOES THE CLOCK START? THE CLOCK STARTS WHEN BRIAN FINISHES SIGNING THE PAPER.

AND I'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN SENDING IT TO ME AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SIGN IT BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVEN'T APPROVED IT YET. OKAY, SO WE'LL GET THREE YEARS FROM THE TIME YOU SIGN IT FROM TODAY.

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UNLESS HE SIGNS IT TOMORROW. WE SIGN IT TODAY.

DEPENDS ON HOW QUICK Y'ALL GET DOWN. WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT.

ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE MY DOCUSIGN EXPIRED. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESEND IT TO ME. PETE.

PETE. YEAH. WHEN WILL THEY. TOMORROW. YEAH. WHEN WILL THE COMP REVIEW COMMITTEE OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW COMMITTEE? STEERING COMMITTEE? EXCUSE ME. IS THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. WHEN? WHEN WILL THEY HAVE THEIR FIRST MEETING? KIND OF GUESSTIMATE, PETE. WHEN? WELL, WE WE HAVE A LETTER, A NOTICE DRAFTED THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEND OUT PENDING THE ACTION OF TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING. AND BOY, I HOPE IT PASSES.

SORRY. SO WHEN WHEN ARE YOU AND JEFF HAVING TOO MUCH FUN TODAY? SO WHEN WILL THE THE FIRST MEETING YOU KIND OF GUESSTIMATE, I'M GUESSING.

GUESSTIMATION, I'D SAY. FEBRUARY. MARCH. OH, OKAY.

FEBRUARY. MARCH, FEBRUARY. MARCH FOR. YEAH. EITHER LATE FEBRUARY OR EARLY MARCH.

OKAY. 2026. 2026. THERE YOU GO. FOR THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING.

MAY I APPROACH THERESA, PLEASE COME FORWARD. IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

PLEASE. THERESA. THERESA EVANS DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

GOOD AFTERNOON. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO.

TO WHAT? PETE HAS ALREADY DISCUSSED. SO WHEN BRIAN OR CITY MANAGER EXECUTES THE DOCUMENT ON ON ON DOCUSIGN, IT'LL GO BACK TO THE GLOW. IT HAS ONE REMAINING SIGNATURE LEFT.

IT'S THEIR CITY, THEIR ATTORNEY, THEIR ATTORNEY NEEDS TO SIGN OFF.

THAT CAN HAPPEN AS THE SAME DAY. SO BECAUSE I WANTED TO CONFIRM, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO SIT AROUND AND GLOW FOR A WHILE.

SO THEY SAID, NO, THAT COULD HAPPEN. THAT'S JUST THE LAST SIGNATURE. WHEN THE ATTORNEY SIGNS, THEN WE HAVE A FULLY EXECUTED CONTRACT. AND THAT'S THE DAY THEIR ATTORNEY SIGNED.

SO THAT COULD BE TOMORROW. THAT COULD BE EARLY NEXT WEEK.

OKAY. AT THAT TIME, THEY WILL SEND US BACK A COPY OF THE FULLY EXECUTED CONTRACT.

WE WILL SEND A NOTICE TO PROCEED TO ESSER ROBINSON, OUR CONSULTANT, WITH A COPY OF THE FULLY EXECUTED CONTRACT.

SO THEY HAVE IT FOR THEIR RECORDS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO HELD TO ALL THE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAT NEED TO BE MET.

I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO YELLOW. WE WE HAVE AN ASSIGNED PROJECT MANAGER, AND SHE WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH US DIRECTLY AS SOON AS WE HAVE A FULLY EXECUTED CONTRACT TO SCHEDULE THE CITY'S KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE GLO REGARDING GRANT ADMINISTRATION.

WE WILL INVITE THE CONSULTANT TO ATTEND THAT MEETING.

SO THEY ARE ALSO AWARE OF ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

EVEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN TO THE DETAIL OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WANT THEIR INVOICES PRESENTED FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

IT IS A REIMBURSEMENT CONTRACT. SO THAT'S THE FIRST STEP.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE VERY FIRST MEETING. THE CITY HAS A MEETING WITH THE GLOW THAT THE CONSULTANT ATTENDS.

AND WE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL OUR REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ARE.

THERE ARE MONTHLY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.

THERE'S A TEMPLATE THEY GIVE US THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED OUT EVERY MONTH.

FROM THERE, WE WILL SCHEDULE A KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANT TEAM THAT WILL NOT INVOLVE GLOW.

AND IT'S AT THAT KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANT TEAM THAT WE WILL DISCUSS TIMELINE SCHEDULING.

WE WILL INCLUDE OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS TEAM MEMBERS IN THAT.

SO THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT THESE DELIVERABLES ARE, WHAT OUR ANTICIPATED TIMELINE IS MOVING FORWARD.

AT THAT TIME, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHEN WE'RE GOING TO MEET START HOLDING MEETINGS WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT OUR OUR PUBLIC MEETING SCHEDULE WILL BE. BUT OVERALL, WE GOT THREE YEARS FROM THE DATE THAT GLO SENDS IT BACK.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE 30 MONTHS. WE HAVE 30 MONTHS, AND IT SAYS IT'S IN THE CONTRACT.

ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ASSOCIATED ZONING ORDINANCES OR EQUIVALENT ENFORCING REGULATIONS OR CODE PROVISIONS MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 30 MINUTES OF CONTRACT EXECUTION. SO WHAT WITH THE THREE YEARS THERE'S ALL THESE CLOSEOUT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

SO THEY WANT US TO COMPLETE ALL OF OUR DELIVERABLES WITHIN 30 YEARS.

JUST KEEP IN MIND 30 MONTHS, 30 MONTHS, 30, SORRY, 30 MONTHS.

AND THEN THERE'S A 30 MINUTES. BUT KEEP IN MIND, GUYS, THIS IS NOT ONE THAT WORRIES ME BECAUSE YOU CAN STOP AND ADOPT AT ANY TIME AND THEN A MINUTE LATER IF YOU NEED TO. SO THAT'S 30 MONTHS FOR THE COMP PLAN AND THE LDRS, RIGHT? YEAH. WELL IF YOU CHANGE THE LDR, YES. ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE SO LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL COME OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

SO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WOULD BE ADOPTED, AND IF THAT REQUIRES ANY SUBSEQUENT ZONING CHANGES, THOSE ARE WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AFTER WE ADOPT. BUT IT IS NOT TIED TO THE TIMELINE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

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THE OTHER CHANGES THAT COME ARE SEPARATE, RIGHT? WELL, IF WE'RE FUNDING THEM WITH THIS GRANT AWARD, IF WE'RE FUNDING.

YES. AND THE CONSULTANTS ARE HELPING US WITH THAT. BUT SO WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THAT TIMELINE AND SCHEDULE IS MOVING FORWARD AND WHAT THE PUBLIC MEETING SCHEDULE WILL LOOK LIKE AFTER WE MEET WITH THE CONSULTANT TEAM.

SO. SO MAYBE BY THE NEXT MEETING WE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, MY IDEALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ALREADY MET WITH THE PROJECT TEAM AND TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS MOVING, MOVING FORWARD.

BUT YEAH, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

VERY GOOD. SO WE'RE READY. WE'RE READY TO ROLL.

THAT'S GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? THANK YOU.

TERESA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. IT WAS FUNNY ONCE, BUT I KNOW, I KNOW.

ALL RIGHT, WE DID. WE NEED WE GET KIND OF STRANGE AROUND 3:00 HERE.

SO THAT'S. SOME OF US WERE STRANGE BEFORE THAT.

THEY'RE DOWN THERE. NO. LET'S GO TO. THERE'S THERE'S A THERE'S ONE BOX.

[3.K. Discussion of topics and rescheduling of the Joint Meeting Dates for the Park Board, Wharves Board and Planning Commission (C. Brown - 10 min)]

LET'S GO TO THREE K. THREE K. DISCUSSION OF TOPICS AND RESCHEDULING OF THE JOINT MEETING DATES FOR THE PARK BOARD, WHARVES BOARD AND PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. COUNCIL NEED TO GET YOUR GUIDANCE ON THIS IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR MEETINGS.

WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 8TH THAT WE'VE ALREADY WENT PAST, AND FOR JUNE 11TH FOR A JOINT MEETING, THE JANUARY JANUARY 8TH MEETING.

THE WHARVES BOARD AND PARK BOARD DIDN'T REALLY HAVE BE ANY PRESSING.

WHEN IS THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION? JUST KIDDING.

YEAH. SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO DO A FEW THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL. WE NEED TO SEE WHEN WE WOULD WANT TO SCHEDULE OUR JOINT MEETINGS.

SINCE WE MISSED JANUARY 8TH. TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO TALK FROM, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND.

MARCH 12TH WOULD BE OUR FIRST JOINT MEETING COMING UP WITH WITH WHO WOULD BE THE BOARD'S BOARD AND PARK BOARD.

THE WAY COUNCIL GUIDED THIS IN THE PAST, YOU WANTED THEM ON THE SAME DAY.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ORDINANCE. WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE SINCE, AS IN THE LAST MEETING, WE FOUND IT WASN'T NECESSARY THAT THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE.

WE JUST SAY WE WILL MEET WITH BOTH GROUPS TWICE A YEAR, NOT SPECIFYING A DATE PER PERSONALLY, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS WAY BEFORE, I WOULD PUT LANGUAGE IN THERE.

WE WOULD MEET AS NEEDED. I LOVE THAT AS NEEDED.

I DON'T SETTING A SETTING A TIMELINE FOR THESE MEETINGS IS JUST MAY NOT ALLOW US TO GET THE BEST TYPE OF RAPPORT WITH THOSE GROUPS. I WOULD DO AS NEEDED AND MR. AS LONG AS WE DO TWO OF THEM A YEAR. MAYOR I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE NEED TWO HERE.

IS THIS REQUIRED TO GO INTO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OR IS IT ALREADY IN THERE? IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. OKAY. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

OKAY. SO IF COUNCIL WANTS TO SAY AS NEEDED THAT WE CAN PUT THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE.

YES. I THINK THEY'RE VERY USEFUL MEETINGS. I THINK THEY'RE REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TWO A YEAR I THINK WOULD BE A MINIMUM FOR DOING THESE THINGS.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE TIMES DURING THE YEAR WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO DO THEM.

I KIND OF AGREE SETTING THE DATE IS A LITTLE BIT ARBITRARY.

YEAH, BECAUSE THEY SHOULD RESPOND TO WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY NEEDED. WHEN DID WE DECIDE? WHEN DID WE DECIDE TO TAKE OUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION? WELL, THAT WAS OUR SECOND TOPIC HERE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN WE HAD JOINT MEETINGS WAS NEVER, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2014, HAS NEVER BEEN INCLUDED IN THE JOINT MEETING SCHEDULE.

NOW WE CAN PUT THEM IN THERE. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LEGAL CAN GIVE US INPUT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS MY TAKE ON IT.

THEY'RE A JUDICIAL BODY UNTO THEMSELVES. THEREFORE, FOR COUNCIL TO MEET WITH THEM AND GIVE THEM GUIDANCE ON HOW WE FEEL, THEY SHOULD BE MOVED FORWARD PHILOSOPHICALLY OR PARTICULAR TOPICS AND HOW THEY COUNCILS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM MOVE, I THINK IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE. WE SHOULD NOT GIVE THEM.

THEY'RE THERE TO BE A CHECKS AND BALANCES TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? WE JUST WE JUST APPOINT THEM AND, YOU KNOW, DENY WHAT THEY APPROVE,

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WHAT THEY DENY ANYWAY. NO, WE THEY FEEL DIFFERENT.

DONNA. I JUST THAT'S NOT TRUE. I, I I NEED SOMETHING CAME TO ME AND TOLD ME.

YEAH. DONNA JUST TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT THAT.

I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONVEY THAT TO THEM.

SO THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS JUST NOT IMPORTANT.

I CONVEY UNTO THEM THAT JUDICIAL SEPARATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I SEE A COUPLE OF HANDS. I MEAN, OH, SO GO AHEAD, DONNA.

YEAH. I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS NOT NECESSARILY HAVING A SET MEETING TIME WITH COUNCIL.

THE, THE ISSUE WITH PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT IT'S EXPECTED FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE EX OFFICIO AND FOR THE EX OFFICIO TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.

AND I THINK THAT WILL ALLOW BOTH ENTITIES TO, YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING ON FOR DISCUSSION OR REVIEW. THAT'S WHAT PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DUTIES ARE.

YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A DIRECTIVE FROM COUNCIL, THEY TAKE THAT AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND THEN BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION BACK. SO THEY ARE RECOMMENDING BODY AS WELL.

THERE ARE ALSO THINGS THAT ARE JUST IN THE PURVIEW OF PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WOULD NOT EVEN COME TO COUNCIL, LIKE BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION CERTIFICATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF JUST CREATING THAT COMMUNICATION THROUGH THE COMMISSION.

AND THOSE ARE ALREADY IN PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S AN EX OFFICIO.

YEAH, WE TOOK ON, I THINK, ONE ISSUE WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.

TRAILER PARKS OR DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? WELL, NO, I REMEMBER I ROLLED OFF BEFORE WE GOT TO IT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO MEET WITH COUNCIL ABOUT WAS TO CLARIFY GET GET CLARIFICATION I GUESS ON ON WHAT A PUTT IS, WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO DO AND HOW WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT, NOT NECESSARILY HOW EACH OTHER ARE GOING TO, BUT BUT JUST GET SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT ON WHAT THEY ARE. WHAT KIND OF TOOL IS THIS ANYWAY, AND WHAT'S IT SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THAT KIND OF THING, JUST TO GET SOME AGREEMENT ON THAT? YEAH, WE HAD ONE OTHER ONE, AND THAT WAS THE SAME THING THAT PEOPLE FROM PLANNING HAVE COME TO ME ABOUT AND SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO MEET IN WORKSHOP BECAUSE OF PUDS AND TO GET. YEAH. HOW FAR THEY WANTED MY, IN MY COMMUNICATIONS.

HOW HOW FAR THEY CAN. WHAT THEY CAN RECOMMEND.

WHAT SHOULD THEY RECOMMEND? HOW DOES COUNCIL FEEL ABOUT THEM.

AND THAT I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY VALID CAME FROM THEIR CHAIR, THEIR CO-CHAIR.

IF WE WANT TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM, I GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD OPINIONS ABOUT THEM.

SO YEAH, THEY HAVE SURPRISE, RIGHT. ALSO HAD THINGS TO THAT THEY PUT OUT IN THE END THAT THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS.

I MEAN, TOPICS SUCH AS BACK ALLEY STREETS TO YOU KNOW, MINIMUM LOT SIZE DUNE.

WHAT DID WE WANT OR COUNCIL WANT TO GO IN THE DIRECTION OF, OF OF DUNES.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY A VALID THING.

MAYBE IT'S NOT A QUARTERLY THING, MAYBE IT'S A ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR THING OR IT AS NEEDED AS WE SAY.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING INTO THE COMP PLAN ANYWAY.

LIKE HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MIGHT BE USEFUL JUST TO ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF LET'S, LET'S, LET'S DISCUSS AND AGREE ON GOALS FOR THE CITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND WHAT FALLS INTO THOSE WHERE WE CAN DO IT AFTER MAY.

AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE.

COUNCILMAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T NEED TO BE PUT IN THE ORDINANCE.

I MEAN, IF CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS A MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY CAN ALWAYS DO THAT.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BY AN ORDINANCE.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHY ANY HAS TO BE BY ORDINANCE.

I THINK IT'S INSANE. YEAH, I, I LIKE A SCHEDULE.

I MEAN, HAVING IT ON THE SCHEDULE, I THINK, I DON'T I THINK ORDINANCES ARE FRAMEWORKS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE SPECIFICS. AND I BELIEVE I AGREE WITH MARIE.

YOU SHOULD SAY WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH THESE GUYS TWICE A YEAR, AND YOU CAN MEET WITH THEM TWICE IN ONE MEETING OR AS AS NEEDED AND NEEDED.

LIKE WHEN TEX-DOT MOWS THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY MOW IT TWICE. ONCE BECAUSE MY ONLY BE ONCE A YEAR AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD.

I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. IT SHOULD BE PEREZ NEEDED, AND I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE.

AND THEN ON PLANNING COMMISSION IF THE SAME, WE HAD TO ADD IT IN.

EXCUSE ME, COULD WE HAVE THAT IN THE SAME THING? WE COULD HAVE THE SAME THING IN THE LIAISON COULD BRING FORWARD.

99% OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGH YOUR LIAISON. IF THERE'S A BURNING ISSUE THAT THEY JUST NEED COUNCIL GUIDANCE. THEY WANT AN AGENDA.

THEY LIKE HOW THEY EXPRESSED IT TO ME. THEY JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY THINK ABOUT IT, BUT THEY WANTED TO KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH PUDS, WHAT WE THOUGHT OR WHAT OUR FEELINGS WERE.

WELL, LET'S JANELLE. WE CAN JUST MAKE SOMETHING UP.

WE COULD. WE COULD DO THAT AS NEEDED. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE KIND OF CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL.

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AND WE CAN PUT PLANNING COMMISSION IN THERE WITH WATER BOARD AND WITH PARK BOARD AS NEEDED.

YOU KNOW, I CAN THINK OF A REALLY GOOD REASON TO MEET WITH THE PARK BOARD ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE IN ORDER TO REVIEW THEIR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, YOU KNOW, FOR ONE, WHICH WE STARTED TO DO, THAT WAS ONE OF SOME OF THE IMPETUS BEHIND THE LAST ONE.

SO CITY COUNCIL IS PERFECTLY AWARE. THEY SET GOALS.

YOU KNOW, GOALS ARE SET. WE ESTABLISH THESE METRICS AND THEN WE DO THE WORK, AND THEN WE FOLLOW UP ON THEM TO SEE HOW THEY MET THEM, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE PERFORMANCE AND ALIGN.

ALIGN GOALS. YEAH, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. IN MY MIND QUARTERLY.

NO, NO NOT QUARTERLY. THAT'S AN ANNUAL THING.

BUT WE COULD DO THAT AS NEEDED. I MEAN, IF OUR BOARD WANTS TO GO THROUGH THAT.

AND I THINK, MARTY, THAT'S ONE OF THE TOPICS HE WANTS TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING KPIS AT OUR MEETING COMING UP RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, BECAUSE IT'S IS THAT THAT DATA IS NEEDED FOR THE INTERNAL OPERATIONS AS WELL.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE ROLE OF THE LIAISONS TO THESE COMMITTEES TO BRING FORWARD TO COUNSEL WHEN A MEETING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND AGENDA ITEMS FOR THOSE MEETINGS. THAT'S IMPORTANT. OKAY.

IF WE'LL PUT THAT TOGETHER AS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE.

SO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA TODAY.

YOU COULD AMEND THAT ORDINANCE, REMOVING THE REGULAR SCHEDULED JOINT MEETING DATES AND JUST PUT IN THE LANGUAGE AS NEEDED.

OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S ITEM TEN. OKAY. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR WHILE YOU'RE SITTING THERE AND STRAIGHTEN THAT PICTURE? EVERY TIME I LOOK AT YOU, IT DRIVES ME NUTS. OKAY, SORRY.

IT'S THE VIRGO IN ME. THAT'S THE 90S. THAT'S THE 90S.

90S. WE'RE A LITTLE CROOKED. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THREE M, PLEASE, MA'AM.

[3.M. Discussion of Regulations, Ordinances, Resolutions, and Council initiatives of derelict vessels and boating laws in the City of Galveston (Porretto/Rawlins- 15 min)]

ITEM THREE M DISCUSSION OF REGULATIONS, ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS AND COUNCIL INITIATIVES OF DERELICT VESSELS AND BOATING LAWS IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON. COUNCILMAN PORRETTO. ALL RIGHT, SO I KNOW IT'S A BIT OF A TONGUE IN CHEEK THAT I GET TO READ THE BOATER SAFETY WEEK RESOLUTION.

BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THIS IS A BIT OF A PROBLEM.

WE HAVE ONE ON 61ST STREET. WE'VE HAD BOATS THAT ARE 10TH STREET ON 10TH STREET.

THAT'S ONE YOU KNOW, IT'S IT CAUSES A PROBLEM FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

IT CAUSES A PROBLEM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THE LONGER THESE BOATS SIT.

MISS MRS. MCMILLAN WITH SEATO, I THINK SHE PUT IT LAID OUT CLEARLY IN THE PAPER, AND I'VE EXPERIENCED IT.

THE BOATS DETERIORATE, AND THE MORE THAT WATER LAPS UP OR THE SUN DRIES THEM OUT, OR THEY'RE SITTING ON THEIR HULL, IT JUST DETERIORATES AND CAUSES A BIGGER MESS.

YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR MY INSTANCE YOU KNOW, WE HAD IT COST ABOUT $40,000 TO REMOVE THE BOAT, AND BEAU AND I HAD DISCUSSED THIS, AND BEAU ACTUALLY WAS OUT THERE AND ASSESSED IT, AND ONE OF HIS PIECES OF MACHINERY COULDN'T GET TO IT, SO WE HAD TO GO OPT FOR A LARGER PIECE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED.

AND NOW THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

I THINK WE SHOULD I THINK FORM OF RESOLUTION, IT COULD LEAD INTO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR FUNDING.

YOU KNOW HOW WE DO THAT? PUT THAT ON THE LEGISLATIVE BLOCK.

THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT I HAVE THOUGHTS. ONE IS $10 $15 FEE ON YOUR BOAT REGISTRATION.

AND FOR THE DANS THAT SAY, WHY AM I PAYING FOR THE THE THE FOLKS THAT ARE CRASHING THEIR BOATS WHEN I'M A RESPONSIBLE BOAT OWNER? THAT'S FINE AS WELL. OR, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ADVOCATE FOR THE GLOW TO HAVE A BLANK CHECK TO REMOVE ALL THE BOATS IN TEXAS IN TWO YEARS THAT ARE CRASHED AND DERELICT.

IS THIS OUR RESPONSIBILITY? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE WE HAVE BOATS AND, WELL, IT IMPACTS US. OFFICE BY YOU. IT IMPACTS US.

I'M TALKING ABOUT STATE LEGISLATION. WELL, IT'S ON OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO DO. AND BEAU AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BOATS, HE'S GOT A FEW BOATS IN HIS DISTRICT. YOU HAVE SOME BOATS IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT ARE CRASHED IN THE, IN, YOU KNOW, WEST BAY AND OFFICE. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST STARTING IN THE DIRECTION OF GETTING IT, GETTING MOVING FORWARD. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW THE CLEAR LAKE HAS A PROBLEM TOO, WITH THE SAME THING. AND DICKINSON BIO. BIG PROBLEM WITH SHRIMP BOATS.

DICKINSON BAYOU I MEAN, ON THE PORT BOLIVAR SIDE, SOMEONE DUMPED A BARGE FULL OF TRASH AND SCRAP METAL, AND THEY JUST DUMPED IT. AND THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GALVESTON HAS BEEN LEADERS, RIGHT? WE'RE THE FIRST ONE TO. I'VE LEARNED THIS. FIRST ONE TO HAVE. THESE ARE WATERS OF THE STATE. AND THE STATE NEEDS TO MAINTAIN THEIR WATERS. AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT THING TO HAVE FOR SALLY TO HAVE UP THERE.

AND AS A COASTAL CITY, I THINK WE COULD SALLY COULD BUILD A COALITION OF OTHER COASTAL CITIES AND TOWNS,

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AND I THINK WE COULD GET SUPPORT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THERE'S A GLOW.

WHO DOESN'T GET ENOUGH? THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH FUNDING FOR IT.

AND I'VE GOT NOTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT THE GUYS THAT ARE DOWN ON THE GROUND THAT GOT THIS, THAT GET THIS DONE.

THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO, BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO REMOVE IT.

AND THEY WERE EXTREMELY HELPFUL. YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE KID WHO DROPPED THE BOAT ON 10TH STREET.

BLOCK MY CALL BLOCK. SONIA'S MY MOTHER'S CALL BLOCK.

THE GAME WARDENS CALL BLOCK. THE TEXAS GLO'S CALL BLOCK.

THE ORAL RESPONSE GUYS CALL, AND THEY HAD TO GO TRACK HIM DOWN TO A MARINA WHO'S STILL LIVING ON A SAILBOAT, WHERE HE WORKED TO MAKE HIM SIGN A. OR HAVE HIM SIGN A DOCUMENT THAT WE COULD LEGALLY REMOVE THE BOAT WITHOUT OBTAINING OWNERSHIP OF IT.

SO THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM THAT, IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, CAN BALLOON.

AND WE ALSO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN WITHOUT PUTTING MORE WORDS ON PAPER, HOW WE CAN ENFORCE IT, HOW WE CAN WORK BETTER WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SO OUR MARINE RESPONSE, THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE FOR THESE BOATS THAT ARE MOORED UP ON 61ST STREET THAT ARE BASICALLY ENCAMPMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL YOU NEED IS A BIG WAVE TO CRASH INTO A POLE OR RUIN THE THE PIER THAT WE HAVE THAT WE BUILT ON 61ST STREET, AND IT'S GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS MONEY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

AND LET'S GET AHEAD OF IT AND BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

AS LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO CUT THE COLONEL LOOSE.

YEAH. HOW DID THAT GUY DUMP THE BOAT ON YOURS? HE TOOK IT. HE DIDN'T DUMP IT. HE. HE HAD A MISHAP.

AND THAT WAS WHERE IT IS. BEAU BEAU HAS A QUESTION.

BEAU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED IS UP IN SEABROOK CLEAR LAKE AREA.

THERE'S A GROUP THAT'S FORMED NOT AGAINST SOMETHING.

YEAH. IT'S BASICALLY TO ADDRESS ABANDONED BOATS, ABANDONED VESSELS, CITIZENS AGAINST ABANDONED VESSELS.

AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY DONE THE LEGWORK TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN CETO TO CONTACTS TO THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, TO CONTACTS WITH THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.

YOU KNOW, BOAT REGISTRATION NUMBERS. THEY'VE BASICALLY DONE ALL OF THIS WORK TO PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE A NONPROFIT WAY OF GETTING AHOLD OF SOMEBODY WHEN ONE OF THESE BOATS ARE ABANDONED AND THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED SOME GRANTS AND FUNDING TO HELP BECAUSE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A NONPROFIT AND IT'S NOT BEING FUNDED WITH PUBLIC MONEY.

BUT THEY HAD REACHED OUT AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING IF WE COULD JUST SIMPLY AS A COUNCIL AND MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY HAVEN'T INITIATED CONTACT YET, BUT THEY WERE HOPING LIKE JUST TO COLLABORATE AND CREATE A BIGGER OPPORTUNITY COUNTYWIDE. THEY ARE HOPING THAT WE COULD JUST BASICALLY AS A COUNCIL, ONCE IT GETS BROUGHT TO THE AGENDA, VOTE TO ACCEPT. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE AN MOU.

SOMETHING SOMETHING BASICALLY SAYING THAT THEY COULD OPERATE IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON AS WELL TO HELP WITH WITH THIS.

AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO COST TO US AS A CITY.

AND I'M SURE THAT THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE THAT WOULD VOLUNTEER AND ALSO VOLUNTEER MONEY TOWARDS THAT CAUSE BEING A NONPROFIT, I TOLD, I TOLD I BASICALLY GAVE COMMUNICATION TO SAY PLEASE, YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT WE CAN BRING TO THE AGENDA AND VOTE ON. SO HOPEFULLY THAT GETS PUSHED THROUGH SOON.

IS THERE ARE THERE ANY BEST PRACTICES OR, OR PLACES THAT ARE DOING THIS IN A, I GUESS, A DELIBERATE WAY THAT'S SUCCESSFUL? ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS EXACTLY WHAT ALEX WAS EXPLAINING.

AND IT'S WHAT I'VE KIND OF COME TO FIND, YOU KNOW, GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF.

IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WOULD SIMPLY JUST TIE ON AND BRING A BOAT BACK TO SHORE OR BRING A BOAT BACK, YOU KNOW, TO A POINT TO WHERE IT COULD BE PULLED OUT WITH A, YOU KNOW, WITH A TRAILER AND DISPOSED OF.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN ASKED TO BASICALLY GIVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEIR AFFIRMATION THAT A BOAT CAN BE REMOVED FROM OUR BAY SYSTEM.

IT JUST CREATES A BUREAUCRACY. OUR BOATING LAWS ARE EXTREMELY PROHIBITIVE TO AVOID THIS PROBLEM.

I CAN'T LIKE IN FLORIDA. I CAN GO FIND AN ABANDONED BOAT, FIX IT UP, REPAIR IT, AND IT'S MINE NOW.

[04:20:04]

YEAH. YEAH. YOU CANNOT FIND. YOU CANNOT. YOU CAN DO IT.

I'LL GIVE YOU A CHUNK OF CHANGE. YOU CAN'T GO GET A BOAT WITHOUT GOING TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND GETTING A BILL OF SALE ENTITLED THAT WAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT, REALLY. THAT'S A STATE GO BY RIGHT THERE.

MAYBE. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO A MINUTE AGO TO IT, IF THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF COALITION COUNTY COALITION OF INTEREST IN THIS, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S TIME TO START. AND THE COUNTY ACTUALLY, THE COUNTY ACTUALLY JUST HAD A PROGRAM.

I THINK IT'S STILL GOING ON WHERE YOU CAN TURN IN A BOAT THAT YOU DON'T WANT, OR YOU CAN BASICALLY ABANDON YOUR VESSEL TO THE COUNTY AND THEY'LL DISPOSE OF IT FOR YOU.

WE'VE DONE THAT HERE. IT'S A JOINT PROGRAM WITH THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE AND THE CITY.

AT ONE TIME, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE HAS TO CLEAR EVERY BOAT, EVERY TRAILER, EVERY ENGINE OTHER THAN THE GLOW.

IF IT'S SUNK, THE GLOW IS INVOLVED. OTHER THAN THAT, PARKS AND WILDLIFE IS INVOLVED. THEY CLEAR IT, THEY BRING IT TO A BOAT RAMP, THEY TOW IT TO A LOCATION.

THE METAL GOES ONE PLACE, THE HULL GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THE WHOLE BOAT IS SALVAGED AND SCRAPPED. WE'VE DONE IT.

AND IT WAS ONE TIME SUCCESSFUL. BUT ONE TIME THEY DIDN'T GET ENOUGH INTEREST IN IT AND IT WAS FOR ABANDONED VESSELS AND OFFENSIVE BIO.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO SUNKEN SAILBOATS. YOU HAVE A MOTOR YACHT THAT'S AGROUND.

YOU ALSO HAVE A SPORTSMAN ROAD. WHAT USED TO BE ONE BOAT IS NOW THREE BOATS.

NONE OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED OR TITLED.

OUR MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS ACTUALLY WORKING THAT ONE.

THE ONE BOAT IS REALLY BIG. IT'S A MOTOR YACHT, AND IT'S SPORTFISH.

BUT IT'S UNTITLED. THEY'RE TAKING AN INTERESTING APPROACH THROUGH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ANGLE ABOUT THE TITLE TO THE BOAT.

AND IF THE BOAT WAS AT ALL EVER SALVAGED TO BY AN INSURANCE COMPANY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER THE INSURANCE COMPANY TO REMOVE THE BOAT BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE IT WAS NO LONGER A VESSEL ANYMORE.

SO, I MEAN, WE'RE WORKING IT, BUT THERE IS A SYSTEM, AND IT'S WORKED IN THE PAST AND AND COUNTY JUST DID IT.

WE WEREN'T PART OF THAT PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CONTACTED US.

I'D BEEN THEIR POINT OF CONTACT IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK PERHAPS SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LEFT THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AT THIS POINT.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THERE IS A PROCESS TO DO IT.

THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS NO FUNDING. GLOW HAS AUTHORITY TO REMOVE THE VESSELS OFF ITS BIO NOW, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING. SO THAT'S THE ISSUE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING A I THINK $10 IS RATHER EGREGIOUS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK A DOLLAR OR TWO ON EVERY REGISTRATION, 500,000 BOATS ON YOU RIGHT NOW, CLOSE TO IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO TAKE THAT THROUGH LEGISLATION.

HAVING TRIED TO DO THAT AND BEACH AREAS, IT WON'T BE SUCCESSFUL.

I MEAN, THEY NEED THE FUNDING. THEY CAN'T DO IT THE SECOND.

SECOND AGAIN. SECOND OPTION. YOU GIVE THEM A BLANK CHECK AS A PROGRAM TO REMOVE EVERY BOAT THAT THEY CAN FIND, WHICH IS I THINK ALSO WE SHOULD PUT IN THERE. LET'S CHRONICLE AND IDENTIFY WHERE THE BOATS ARE.

WE CAN HAVE THEM, I DON'T KNOW, PLUGGED INTO GIS.

I THINK Y'ALL GOT A PRETTY GOOD GIS PERSON OVER THERE.

WE DO. I KNOW, YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, LET'S BE LEADERS LIKE LET'S LET'S SHOW SOME, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE THE FIRST MUNICIPALITY IN TEXAS THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S FIGURE OUT. LET'S START IDENTIFYING.

LET'S RUN TO THE STATE AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM.

WE WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR YOU TO GET MORE FUNDING AND LET'S GET THE BOATS CLEANED UP, HAS BECOME A DUMPING GROUND.

IT HAS BECOME A GROUND OF HOMELESS TAKING ABANDONED AND SALVAGED SURPLUS VESSELS AND LIVING ON THEM.

AND THEY STAY ON THEM UNTIL THEY SINK, AND THEN THEY FIND ANOTHER ONE THAT'S NOT SAFE ANYWAY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A BOAT THAT SINKS AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, DEAD BODIES ON BOARD BECAUSE THEY WERE IT'S AT NIGHT AND FILLED UP AND THEY COULDN'T GET OUT. SO IT'S A SAFETY AND IT'S A SAFETY PROBLEM.

SO WE WANT TO THE CONCLUSION TO THIS IS WE WANT TO ADD IT TO THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, AS WELL AS PARTNER WITH THE NOT FOR PROFIT. WHICH WILL THEY HAVE TO? DOES THAT TAKE AN ACTIVE. THEY CAN'T. I MEAN THEY HAVE TO DO AS BEAU DESCRIBED.

THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH GLO AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TEXAS PARKS AND THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED.

THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL TO COME. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE PROGRAM THAT HE SPOKE ABOUT.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THEY DO IT. IT'S THE CITIZENS AGAINST ABANDONED VESSELS DERELICT DUMPING CAD OLSEN.

OKAY. OLSEN IS THE THAT'S THAT'S THE GROUP THAT CLEANS UP THE BIOS AND CREEK BEDS AND.

YEAH, THEY'RE OUT OF SEABROOK. THAT'S THE GROUP. MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THEM COME TO THE NEXT MEETING AND DO A PRESENTATION.

WE CAN HAVE SALLY WORK ON A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA ITEM AND WE'LL MOVE FROM THERE AND THEN SOME.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE A RESOLUTION STATING THE FACTS OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S BAD FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS,

[04:25:03]

IT'S BAD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. CREATES HAZARDS IN OUR WATERWAYS, YOU KNOW, MUDDIES UP THE ENVIRONMENT.

IT DOES THIS, IT DOES THAT. A BLIGHT, IT'S A BLIGHT.

I MEAN, IT REALLY IS A BLIGHT ON, ON ON OUR COASTLINES.

YEAH. I'M ABSOLUTELY AMAZED THAT THESE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH IT.

I MEAN, I COULD BE OPERATING A POWERBOAT IN CLEAR CREEK OR CLEAR LAKE, LET'S JUST SAY.

AND CLEAR LAKE IS A GANTLET. THERE ARE 5 OR 6 LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ON THAT LAKE.

AND ON AN AVERAGE DAY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET STOPPED.

THEY JUST DO A SAFETY BOARDING. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR LIFE PRESERVERS, YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR CURRENT REGISTRATION. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE THINGS. THEY'RE GOING TO CITE YOU. AND HOW THESE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH HEARING OFF ITS BIO SEEMS TO BE A NO MAN'S LAND.

THEY CAN JUST OPERATE UNIMPEDED. THEY SHOW UP ON 4TH OF JULY AND HARASS THE GUYS OVER THERE.

WILDLIFE IS REVENUE GENERATING. THEY EAT WHAT THEY KILL, SO THEY COME IN, WRITE TICKETS.

BUT I MEAN, THESE THINGS, THEY DON'T CONSIDER THEM THE HAZARD OF NAVIGATION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN A NAVIGABLE CHANNEL.

ALTHOUGH SOME ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE. THE SAILBOATS RELATIVELY CLOSE AND OFFENSES YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OPERATE JET SKIS AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT THE SAFEST OPERATORS ON EARTH AND YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO THAT SAILBOAT. I GUARANTEE YOU. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO FROM MANAGEMENT TO LOOK AT ORDINANCES TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE, BECAUSE I WANT TO I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD. TO ME, THAT'S THE OTHER OPTION AT THE STATE. IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE APPETITE TO ASSESS A FEE, YOU JUST PUT UNGODLY FINES ON THIS AND GIVE THEM MONEY TO INVESTIGATE.

THEY'LL FIND THE OWNER, RIGHT? YEAH. WELL, THAT WAS THE OTHER OPTION I WAS LOOKING AT IS THAT DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO.

HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU HOW DOES ONE BLOCK ALEX.

YEAH. I MEAN, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN WRITE CITATIONS.

OKAY, LET'S WRAP THIS UP. JANELLE. CAN YOU READ THE NEXT ITEM? I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. THERE'S A LOT OF COASTAL STATES THAT DO THIS.

YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED FLORIDA. HOW DO HOW DO THEY HOW DO THEY DO IT? HOW DO THEY FUND THIS, THIS KIND OF THING? YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT LOBBYING THE LEGISLATURE, WE GOT TO HAVE A DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF WAY. SOME THEY HAVE THEY HAVE WAYS THAT THEY FUND IT, YOU KNOW. THE LICENSE REGISTRATION THING SOUNDS LIKE A NO BRAINER.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST I KNOW, BUT THEY HAVE. THEY'VE DONE IT FROM FEES THAT COME FROM THE STATE PARKS.

THEY HAVE FUNDED THE GLOW. SO I MEAN. I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO WHENEVER YOU ASK FOR FUNDING TO HAVE A RECOMMENDED SOURCE OF IT. WE'LL HAVE SALLY LOOK AT IT. BUT JANELLE, CAN YOU READ THE NEXT ITEM?

[3.N. Discussion of installation times for water and sewer taps, including the potential use of a contractor for pending and future installations (Robb/C. Brown -15 min)]

ITEM THREE IN DISCUSSION OF INSTALLATION TIMES FOR WATER AND SEWER TAPS, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL USE OF A CONTRACTOR FOR PENDING AND FUTURE INSTALLATIONS.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ITEM I PUT ON THE AGENDA.

AND BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM CONTRACTORS, AND I KNOW A CONTRACTOR CAN CHOOSE TO USE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR TO PUT IN A WATER TAP.

BUT THE COMPLAINT I GET IS THEY WILL COME TO THE CITY AND THEY WILL REQUEST A WATER TAP.

THEY WILL TELL THEM IT'LL BE SIX WEEKS AND THREE MONTHS LATER THEY STILL DON'T HAVE IT.

I WENT OVER THE NUMBERS WITH BRANDON AND TYSON.

OUR NUMBER IS ABOUT 60 DAYS ON AVERAGE NOW FOR TAPS.

WE ALLOW CONTRACTORS TO HIRE THEIR OWN PLUMBERS TO DO IT.

WATER TAPS. MOST OF THEM ARE WILLING TO HAVE SOMEBODY DO THEM.

AND AND THE PLUMBERS ARE WILLING TO DO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE RELATIVELY RISK FREE, BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING IT UNDER PRESSURE AND YOU CAN'T CONTAMINATE THE WATER THAT WAY. SEWER TAPS. THEY'RE VERY HESITANT TO DO SEWER TAPS IN GALVESTON BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OLD, OLD INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND YOU MIGHT GO DOWN TO A SEWER TAP ON A CAST PIPE AND IT FRACTURE 20FT BACK UNDERNEATH THE STREET, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRING THAT STREET. THAT'S WHY THEY LOOK TO THE CITY TO DO IT. BUT ALL THEY'RE ASKING, THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO ME IS AN HONEST ANSWER AS TO WHEN THE CITY WILL INSTALL.

I THINK IT'S VERY REASONABLE RIGHT NOW THAT THE EXPECTATION IS IT'S GOING TO BE DONE IN LESS THAN 60 DAYS.

THAT'S OUR WE TRACK THE NUMBERS. WE KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES.

I WOULD I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CAN REFER PEOPLE TO ME OR YOU CAN REFER THEM TO BRANDON IF THEY HAVE ISSUES.

BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHEN PEOPLE COMPLAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKING SO LONG, WE FIND OUT THAT THEY DIDN'T APPLY OR THEY APPLIED LATER OR, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T GO TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE. THEY STAY AT THE END OF THE LINE. YEAH. BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S A CONFUSION WHEN THE HOMEOWNER IS APPLYING VERSUS A CONTRACTOR, BUT THEN THE CONTRACTOR IS FOLLOWING UP.

AND SO ANYWAY, WHAT I'M REQUESTING IS WE JUST GIVE THEM AN HONEST TIMELINE.

I THINK THE TIMELINES WE CLOCKED IT IS 60 DAYS, MAYBE LESS.

[04:30:01]

THAT'S THE MEDIAN RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 60 DAYS.

BUT WE HAD HAD THIS DISCUSSION BACK A FEW MONTHS AGO.

AUGUST ACTUALLY WAS THE DISCUSSION. AND WE UPDATED OUR TAP APPLICATION FORM TO EXTEND THAT TIME FRAME.

UPON COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION ON THERE. WHAT WE EXTENDED IT TO WHAT? WELL, WE PUT IT AROUND THE 90TH PERCENTILE, WHICH WAS ABOUT TEN WEEKS OR SO.

IS ABOUT NINE OUT OF TEN JOBS GET DONE BEFORE TEN WEEKS OR SO.

AND SO I THINK LAST YEAR'S 170 DAYS. BUT THAT'S OLD.

I MEAN, OUR NUMBERS ARE WHAT, HOW MANY DAYS NOW? RIGHT NOW THE 90TH PERCENTILE IS AT 108. AND TYSON'S JUST RAN THESE NUMBERS.

THE MEDIAN IS ABOUT 61 DAYS. IT DEPENDS ON EVERYTHING.

IT'S NOT LIKE THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING WORSE AND THE AVERAGES ARE ACTUALLY GOING DOWN.

ALL PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR IS AN HONEST ANSWER, BECAUSE IF IT IS GOING TO BE 120 DAYS, THEN THEY MAY CHOOSE TO GET THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR.

AND THAT'S THE THE MOST FREQUENT FRUSTRATION THAT IS EXPRESSED TO ME IS THEY'RE TOLD IT WILL BE SIX WEEKS, AND NOW THEY'RE TWO AND A HALF, THREE MONTHS INTO IT AND THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A JOB.

I'M NOT ASKING TO ARGUE IT. I'M ASKING IS FOR YOU TO PRESENT AN HONEST.

WE WILL. AND I ASK IN EXCHANGE THAT IF YOU GET THOSE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY OUTLIERS, DOES GET IS THE CONTRACTOR'S NAME. SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON. OH, ANYTIME I'VE TURNED OVER A NAME, IT'S GOTTEN DONE. BUT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CONTACT ME TO GET IT DONE.

AND ALL THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS AN HONEST ANSWER.

BEAU. THIS IS SOMETHING I JUST DON'T KNOW. DO WE? OR IS IT REQUIRED THAT A PERMIT IS ISSUED FOR CONSTRUCTION OF EITHER COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL HOME? IS IT REQUIRED THAT A PERMIT HAS TO BE ISSUED BEFORE THEY CAN ACTUALLY ORDER SEWER AND WATER TAP? YES. OKAY. THAT'S THAT. WE'VE GOT TO FIX THAT.

IF SOMEONE OWNS A LOT AND THEY WANT WATER AND SEWER ACCESS TO THAT LOT, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IN THAT ORDER RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND NOT WAIT FOR A PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.

LET ME TELL YOU WHY THAT CHANGE, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER OR ACTUALLY RIGHT BEFORE I CAME HERE TO THE CITY. THAT THAT GOT CHANGED.

IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE GETTING WATER AND SEWER HOOKUPS, PUT ON LOTS, AND THEN THEY WERE BUILDING JUST AUXILIARY STRUCTURES WITHOUT PERMITS AND RUNNING WATER AND SEWER TO THEM. THAT'S HOW WE CONTROL THAT.

LIKE YOU'D HAVE A VACANT LOT ON THE WATER. THEY'D BUILD A PIER, BUT NO STRUCTURE ON IT, OR THEY'D BUILD A GARAGE AND PUT A BATHROOM IN IT.

NOT SO WE DON'T. THAT WAS THE REAL PROBLEM. OR THEY WERE WORSE YET IN WHAT WAS REALLY HAPPENING IS THEY'D BUILD A FENCE AND THEY'D PUT WATER AND SEWER IN THERE.

AND THIS HAPPENED TO ME. AND THE GUY PUT A TRAILER AND HOOKED THE TRAILER UP IN THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT TO TIE TO THE WATER AND SEWER HOOKUPS.

BUT YOU CAN GET A DO IT AT THE SAME TIME. BEAU.

YEAH, THEY COULD DO IT THE SAME TIME. WELL, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THING.

SO, LIKE, LET'S SAY I WANT TO COME AND TAKE CARE OF ALL MY PERMIT APPLICATIONS THE SAME DAY.

RIGHT. I GO AND TURN MY PERMIT IN AT, YOU KNOW, ON THE LEFT SIDE, AND THEN I GO TURN MY PERMIT ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

THERE IS NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER IS NO. THEY CAN DO IT AT THE SAME TIME.

THEY CAN THEY CAN THEY CAN DO IT AT THE SAME TIME.

FROM A CONTRACTOR'S PERSPECTIVE AND STANDPOINT, DOESN'T THAT WORK WELL TIMING WISE? I MEAN, LIKE SO FOR THE MOST PART. RIGHT? UNLESS UNLESS, LIKE ONE, FOR INSTANCE, I RAN INTO WAS THE. THE WHAT WAS WHAT? I WAS GOING TO USE MY FUNDING THAT I WAS GOING TO USE FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT. THAT FUNDING WOULD CLOSE UNTIL I WAS ABLE TO GET UNTIL I ACTUALLY HAD A POLE SEWER AND A WATER TAP ON SITE BECAUSE THEY CONSIDERED THAT READY TO BUILD. AND SO I DIDN'T GET TO USE THAT FUNDING SOURCE BECAUSE THE CITY OF GALVESTON WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT.

SO, I MEAN, IT CAN BE DONE. WE'RE NOT OUT OF LINE WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES DO FOR THAT.

THAT'S KIND OF I REMEMBER IT GOT ROBBED FROM OTHER CITIES.

NO ROBB PUN INTENDED BECAUSE OTHER CITIES WERE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY SAY YOU CAN GET THEM ALL AT ONE TIME, BUT WE WON'T ALLOW PERMITTING OR INSTALLATION OF WATER AND SEWER TAPS TO A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY, EVEN A TEMPORARY WATER TAP. THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

BUT THINK ABOUT THIS, BRIAN. SO, NO VACANT WATER TAP WITHOUT A SEWER TAP WITHOUT SOME KIND OF A PLAN? KIND OF A PLAN TO BUILD SOMETHING WHERE YOUR DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO GO.

[04:35:03]

WHERE DOES THE WATER TAP NEED TO GO? WHERE'S THE METER? NEED TO GO? I MIGHT I MIGHT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT A HOUSE BUILDING A HOUSE.

I MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I CAN HAVE WATER ACCESS TO, AND I CAN HAVE A PEEPHOLE TO NOT WORRY ABOUT PUTTING A TRAILER OUT THERE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT BUILDING A STRUCTURE. THAT'S JUST A PRINCIPLE THING OF MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION.

BUT FISHING CAMP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YES.

IF I WANTED TO GO OUT THERE AND HANG OUT WITH WITH THE KIDS OR WITH MY GRANDKIDS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I COULD GET WATER, YOU KNOW, I COULD HAVE WATER ACCESS TO, OR I COULD HAVE A PEEPHOLE ACCESS TO.

I THINK THAT'S ONLY RIGHT AS A, AS AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. COULD WATER YOUR SAND.

BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT. MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THAT IF WE A DEVELOPER, IF HE'S GOING TO DEVELOP 100 LOTS, THAT DEVELOPER IS ABLE TO HAVE SEWER TAPS AND WATER TAPS ON THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY READY TO GO, SAY, NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, HE'S DOING THOSE HIMSELF, AND THEY'RE PLATTED, AND THEY SHOW THE LAYOUT AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING.

YOU KNOW, THE OTHER LIKE I SAID, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, THE OTHER THING IS WE GO OUT THERE AND WE PUT THE TAP IN, AND THEN A YEAR LATER, YOU WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE AND THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE DRIVEWAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE TAP. WELL, GOOD. IF I'M SPENDING $7,500, YOU DAMN WORRY ABOUT IT.

DO IT FOR ME. THAT'S A LOT. I MEAN, LIKE, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT WE BASICALLY EQUAL OUT ON THAT.

I KNOW WE DON'T. YOU SAID WE DON'T REALLY MAKE MONEY ON THAT. WE LOSE MONEY. BUT IF I HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEND $7,500 FOR A WATER, 77, 50, WHATEVER IT IS THAT I MIGHT BE WRONG, IF I HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO COME UP WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY TO PUT A WATER AND SEWER TAP IN, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT AS A HOMEOWNER REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT BECOMES.

IT BECOMES A BIG I'M NOT I'M NOT ARGUING BECAUSE I DON'T CARE, BUT IT BECOMES A GIANT COMPLIANCE ISSUE BECAUSE YOU SAY THAT AND THAT'S FINE.

AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S GOT SOMETHING HOOKED UP TO IT.

THEY'VE PUT IN A PORTABLE, SOME TYPE OF PLUMBING BATHROOM, AND THEN IT BECOMES US HAVING TO CHASE IT DOWN.

AGENDA. HE TOOK MY GAVEL. HE PUTS ME IN CHARGE AND HE TAKES THE USE YOUR PHONE.

ANYWAY I THINK THAT WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.

MY THING WAS TIMELINE. MY THING WAS GIVING HONEST ANSWERS.

IF IT'S 120 DAYS, TELL THEM IT'S 120. AND IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT, BEAU, WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO LOOK AT WHEN IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ONE QUICK THING.

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT PREVENTS SOMEBODY WITH A VACANT PROPERTY FROM PUTTING IRRIGATION TAP IN? NO, NO, THAT'S HOW YOU GET WATER. IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY, WHY WOULD YOU PUT SEWER? BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE AN EYE AND EYE PROBLEM. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE EYE AND EYE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE A BATHROOM BELOW A CERTAIN ELEVATION. AND SO IF YOU PUT SEWER AND IF YOU'RE NOT BUILDING ANYTHING, WHAT DO YOU NEED A SEWER FOR? I GET THAT PUSH IT UPHILL. YEAH. WELL WE DO IN SOME PLACES MAKE LITTLE CAKES OUT OF IT I GET THAT.

YEAH. THAT ALREADY. SO. YEAH, BUT BUT IF YOU JUST WANTED TO PUT A SPIGOT OF WATER OUT THERE, YOU GET AN IRRIGATION METER. IT'S NOT HOOKED UP. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SEWER. YOU'RE GLAD TO PUT AN IRRIGATION METER IN IT. THAT'S. WE DO THAT. ANYWAY, I GOT IT. OKAY. OKAY. YES. JANELLE. CAN YOU DOCUMENT THAT? DO YOU WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE NEXT MEETING? ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT. NO, I CAN FIGURE IT OUT BEFORE NOW AND THEN.

BEAU, ARE YOU AWARE OF THE DASHBOARD ONLINE? YEAH.

IT SUCKS. IT ABSOLUTELY SUCKS. I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, WHAT ABOUT IT? HAVE YOU TRIED IT AS A CONSUMER? NOT AS NOT IN THE BACK, NOT IN A TRY IT.

I DON'T EVEN ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT. I JUST USED TO LOOK AT MY BILL.

I'M PLEASED WITH IT. WELL, NO, NO, NO. WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH HIS DASHBOARD.

OH, AS FAR AS, LIKE, HOW MANY TESTS WE HAVE. OUTSTANDING.

YEAH. TIME TO CLOSE. IF. ANYWAY, THAT'S. I WOULD LOVE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU.

WE'RE OFF THE AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT SEWER AND WATER TAPS AT SOME POINT IN TIME THROUGH THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, ITEM THREE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE SELECTION OF CITY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR LIVE STREAMING.

[3.O. Discussion regarding the selection of City board and commission meetings for live- streaming (Robb/C Brown - 10 min)]

YES, SIR. AND ARE YOU GOING TO HANG OUT FOR P.

YEAH, I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN TELL THE MAYOR PUTS ALL MY AGENDA ITEMS AT THE END SO WE CAN LEAVE BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE BE TELEVISED.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS TELEVISED.

AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT MEETINGS ARE TELEVISED NOW? CURRENTLY IT'S CITY COUNCIL, PLANNING COMMISSION AND IDC, IDC, IDC.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTEREST IN THE ARTS DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE BEING TELEVISED AS WELL.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE ON TV. SO WHAT IS I MEAN, WHAT'S THE FISCAL IMPACT TO HAVING HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR DO THEY MEET?

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FINANCE. FINANCE. FOUR TIMES. FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

QUARTERLY. SO I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT DO WE KNOW THE PER PER USAGE OR PER MEETING COST FOR THAT? IS SHE COMING BACK OR SUPPOSED TO BE HERE? I'M SUPPOSED TO GUESS. SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ALL THAT TOGETHER FOR THIS ITEM.

IT'S PART OF THE SWAGIT CONTRACT. WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEETINGS TOTAL.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS, BUT I HAVE SEEN OTHER MINIS TELEVISED ON FACEBOOK.

STREAMING ON IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU'RE USING THE SWAGIT SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE USE TO STREAM ON FACEBOOK. HOW TO USE MY PHONE.

DID THEY GET UNRULY? SHE WAS TRYING TO BREAK IT.

SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT. ANYWAY, WE'RE ON THE AGENDA.

AGENDA ITEM. I'M TELEVISING THIS. YOU KNOW, LOOK, I'D SUPPORT IT AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN OUR CONTRACT.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN GET THAT ANSWER. NUMBER OF EVENTS OR WHATEVER.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'LL GET YOU THAT ANSWER, THOUGH.

OKAY. I I'M SORRY. THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. NEVER MIND.

ANYWAY SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE BARBARA IS IN HERE.

SO WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER FOR THE LIVE STREAMING, RIGHT? OKAY. £0.03 PLEASE. ITEM £0.03 DISCUSSION OF THE OVERALL CONDITION OF STREETS ACROSS THE ISLAND,

[3.P. Discussion of the overall condition of streets across the Island, including multiple sink holes (Robb/C Brown -10 min)]

INCLUDING MULTIPLE SINKHOLES. YES, MA'AM. WELL, I HAVE BEEN I HAVE BEEN TRAVELING ALL OVER THE ISLAND, BUT I HAVE ALSO BEEN RECEIVING, AS I'M SURE WE ALL DO, ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF OUR STREETS. SINKHOLES IN PARTICULAR. POINT OUT A COUPLE OF STREET.

ONE IS AND THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SINKHOLES ON THAT STREET.

I THINK WE HAVE ISSUES ON 29TH. I THINK THERE'S SOME ISSUES ON 12TH.

I KNOW I HAD POINTED OUT ONE AND THE CITY ADDRESSED IT AT 35TH AND AVENUE.

OH THAT JUST KEPT GETTING DEEPER AND DEEPER. BUT WE ALSO HAVE STREETS THAT DON'T APPEAR ON OUR APPEAR IN OUR PLAN BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WELL TRAVELED. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU JUST PASS AROUND THESE.

THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT PICTURES, BUT THESE ARE PICTURES OF CHARLIE STREET BACK, NINE MILE ROAD.

AUSTIN MEYER ROAD. AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THESE PICTURES IS THAT COULD BE ANY SIDE STREET IN PIRATE'S COVE CONNECTED OFF OF CHRISTMAS TREE, WHICH SINCE THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS PUT IN IN 1960S. THERE ARE STREETS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TOUCHED.

SO THEY'RE REALLY JUST GOT GRAVEL PITS. I ALSO HAVE AN ITEM FROM ISLA DEL SOL, AND I KNOW, I THINK, ROB, YOU'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS ONE, WHICH IS 2204 IS LA VIEW IN ISLA DEL SOL.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN REPORTING THIS TO PUBLIC WORKS, DEALING WITH IT FOR OVER A YEAR.

AND NOW AND THERE'S MULTIPLE EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS WITH BRANDON, WITH DAN WITH I MEAN, HERE'S ONE. DAN, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS REQUEST? IT'S FROM 2025. SO NOW WE HAVE THE STREET CAVING IN AND AS LA DEL SOL AND PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT IT. AND IF WE WERE ONE, WE KNOW IF THERE'S A SINKHOLE, THERE'S A SECONDARY ISSUE TO. WHEN WE START HAVING STREETS UNDERMINE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE IN A BAY NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S AN ISSUE. BUT THREE LOOKING AT THESE PHOTOS AND YOU COULD GIVE THEM TO JANELLE.

I MEAN, THAT'S APPALLING THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE ON STREETS THAT LOOK LIKE THIS.

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AND THERE ARE STREETS LIKE THIS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

I KNOW WE KEEP WE HAVE A GOOD BUDGET. WE HAVE A SET ASIDE FOR STREETS.

WE KEEP APPROVING STREET EQUIPMENT. AND.

I WANT AN ANSWER THAT I CAN GIVE PEOPLE BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS ARE VERY UPSET.

I MEAN, WE, YOUR STREETS CONSULTANT, TOLD YOU THAT YOU NEEDED AN INFUSION OF BOND MONEY TO CATCH UP.

YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO THESE STREETS BECAUSE, YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO GET TWO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THESE STREETS. BUT IF 53RD, WHICH IS A NEW STREET, I'LL USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE, HAD A BIG POTHOLE.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET 200 COMPLAINTS. THAT'S WHY THE MATRIX THAT THEY USE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT TRAFFIC COUNT.

TRAFFIC COUNT ALSO IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE WHILE THIS STREET IS DETERIORATED, IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AT A MUCH LOWER RATE THAN A HIGHER TRAVERSED STREET THAT GOES INTO THE RACE.

ACTUALLY THIS DETERIORATE. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING TO THIS STREET LIKE TWO YEARS AGO AND IT'S TOTALLY DETERIORATED. AND I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T PAVE IT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF STREETS.

I MEAN, YEAH, YOU KNOW, AND YOU ACTUALLY HAVE.

AND YOU'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE UNDERFUND OUR STREETS.

AND IT WAS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE INCREASE FUNDING TO STREETS.

AND IT WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THERE BE A LARGER INFUSION DONE THROUGH BONDS TO CATCH UP.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE BOND, BUT THEN. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S JUST I MEAN, BONDS AREN'T A MAGIC WAND.

YOU STILL HAVE TO RAISE TAXES TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY THE DEBT. SO BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU USE YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE SET ASIDE TO PAY FOR THE DEBT, THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING ANY OF YOUR OTHER PAVING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING, WHICH DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF DOING THE BONDS BECAUSE YOU NEED BOTH WORKING. WE'VE GOT ONE PAVING CREW.

THEY PAVE EVERY DAY. I MEAN, WE WILL. WE'RE THEY'VE TOLD YOU YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FALL BEHIND IN YOUR STREETS IF WE DON'T CATCH UP.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE EXCUSE FOR NOT GETTING BACK TO PEOPLE.

AND I'M DOING. THIS IS ADELE. SO WHICH ONE DO YOU SAY? I DIDN'T GET BACK TO SOMEBODY. NO, YOU ACTUALLY DID GET BACK.

YOU TOLD THEM IN AUGUST 21ST, 2025. CAN SOMEONE RESPOND TO THIS? AND THEN IT'S 25. WHAT'S THE ADDRESS? IT IS 2204 AISLE VIEW AND IS LA DEL SOL. WELL, WE'RE WHILE WE'RE LOOKING THAT UP.

BEAU COMMENT. MY MY STAFF COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY RETURN ALL PHONE CALLS BEFORE THEY GO HOME IN THE DAY, PERIOD. SO THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. IF THAT'S THE CASE, I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

BRIAN. DAN ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS FOR HOT TAX.

AND THIS IS, OF COURSE ROADWAYS AND STREETS THAT ARE PART OF OUR VISITORS THOROUGHFARE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S 45TH, 37TH, 31ST, 25TH YOU KNOW, OUR UTILIZATION FOR OUR ROADWAYS WHETHER IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL OR A HOTEL OR THE FACT THAT THEY COME TO VISIT THE SEAWALL. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR ROADWAYS ARE UTILIZED AND WORN DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE WE DEPEND ECONOMICALLY ON TOURISM.

SO HAVE THERE BEEN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE TAPPED INTO HOT TAX TO HELP WITH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE IT LITERALLY SAYS INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE HOT TAX STIPULATIONS.

WE CANNOT USE IT FOR STREETS. THAT IS CALLED LIKE A CONVENTION CENTER.

YEAH. THEY OKAY. I'M JUST. NO, I UNDERSTAND THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS, BECAUSE I WANT IT PUBLICLY PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S PERCEPTION AND WE DON'T. AND WHEN WE DON'T EDUCATE AND PASS THAT KNOWLEDGE ON PUBLICLY TO SAY, HEY, LOOK. YES, THE PARK BOARD WANTS 600,000 FOR FIFA.

YES, THE PARKS BOARD WANTS 750,000 FOR ALYSSA.

YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR COMMON, YOU KNOW, LIFELONG GALVESTONIANS THAT'S SITTING THERE LOOKING AT THEIR STREETS, JUST RIPPING THEIR CAR TO SHREDS. THAT ALSO HAS TEN SHORT TERM RENTALS ON THE SAME STREET.

YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER TO THAT CONSTITUENT WHO'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN A $2 MILLION HOME WITH BRAND NEW CONCRETE STREETS IN FRONT

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OF THEM THAT THE DEVELOPER DOES, JUST PASSING ON THAT KNOWLEDGE AND PUBLICLY PUTTING THAT KNOWLEDGE OUT THERE, EVEN IF IT'S YEAH, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. WELL, WE MIGHT HAVE DONE THAT TWO YEARS AGO.

WE MIGHT HAVE DONE THAT A YEAR AGO, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL SHOULD BE ACTIVELY CONVEYED AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC TO SAY, YEAH, THAT MONEY'S THERE, AND THAT MONEY IS THERE UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND THIS IS WHAT THEY CONTROL. AND THIS IS HOW THEY SAY WE CAN SPEND IT.

NONE OF THE PART, YOU KNOW, NONE OF THE MONEY THAT WE BRING IN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, BEACH USER FEES OR TAXES ON SHORT TERM RENTALS OR TAXES ON HOTELS, NONE OF THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR THE COMMON CITIZENS BENEFIT.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND. IT'S HARD.

IT'S IT'S UNLESS IT'S UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLICLY CONVEYED OFTEN THE PERCEPTION IS, IS THAT WE'RE BLOWING MONEY WHEN IN REALITY IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM US UNDER OUR PURVIEW, BUT STILL COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM US THAT THEY SEE AS BLOWING MONEY.

AND SO IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO ME. HEY, I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE.

NO, WE CAN'T USE IT. ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS MY FIRST.

KIND OF LIKE WHY I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION. BUT SECONDLY, IT'S JUST TO CONVEY WHAT THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR.

OFTEN, WHETHER IT'S SOCIAL MEDIA ON OUR CITY OR GALVESTON PAGE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE RUN EVERY THREE MONTHS, WE PUT THAT OUT THERE. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN UTILIZE AND SAY, IF YOU GO TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON WEBSITE, THIS IS OUR OR GO TO OUR CITY GALVESTON FACEBOOK PAGE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT, THAT, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR.

AND UNTIL THE STATE LEGISLATION CHANGES, THOSE TAGS OF WHAT THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR, WE CAN ONLY TAP INTO OUR GENERAL BUDGET OR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FUND OR ONE OF THE FUNDS, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, OR ISSUANCE OF BONDS.

THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

WE CAN'T ADDRESS IT THROUGH HOT TAX, WHICH IS AGAIN IT'S JUST MORE ABOUT EDUCATION.

THIS EXACT TOPIC CAME UP IN THIS YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THE CITY OF MARFA BROUGHT A BILL FORWARD TO TRY TO GET THE LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE THE LAWS TO ALLOW STREET PAVING.

FELL ON DEAF EARS AND IT WENT NOWHERE. I GET IT, I GET IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN. BUT THIS IS KIND OF OFF TOPIC.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREETS. DO A PSA ABOUT STREETS AND TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THE FUNDING SOURCES ARE ON STREETS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY HEARD DURING THE BUDGET ABOUT THE BUDGET DEFICIT RELATED TO STREETS.

WE HAVE MORE NEEDED THAN WAS FUNDED, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS TO BECOME A PRIORITY FOR US AND FOR YOU GUYS BEFORE YOU WERE EVER GOING TO GET AHEAD OF IT.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE FALL FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND.

WE ARE FALLING BEHIND AND WE DO GET MONEY FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS.

REMEMBER, THEY'RE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON THOSE TOO, AND THEY'RE NOT HOMESTEADED, SO THEY'RE PAYING A HIGHER RATE THAN OUR RESIDENTS DO.

SO. SO WE DO GET THAT TO THE BENEFIT. AND THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO AND AGAIN, THANK GOD I'M TONY.

DON'T GET MAD. BUT WE SPEND AN AWFUL LOT ON PUBLIC SAFETY IN GALVESTON AND AND RIGHTLY SO, BECAUSE WE HAVE COMPARE US TO ANY OTHER CITY OUR SIZE.

BECAUSE OF TOURISM, WE'VE GOT TWICE AS MANY COPS. WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY CITIES OUR SIZE WITH A FULL TIME PAID FIRE DEPARTMENT, ONE OF THE ONLY ONES WITH FULL TIME PAID EMS. I MEAN, I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT ALL OUR FIRSTS, BUT JUST SO.

SO WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHERE THEIR TAXES GO, ALL THEIR PROPERTY TAX, AND THE MAJORITY OF THEIR SALES TAX GOES TO PUBLIC SAFETY, BEFORE WE EVER PUT A DIME INTO STREETS OR ANYTHING ELSE, AND REALLY PROBABLY WOULD EVEN MORE OF IT WOULD GO INTO PUBLIC SAFETY IF WE HADN'T DONE THE INFRASTRUCTURE SET ASIDE, WHICH IF YOU ASK STEVE GREENBERG, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY HE DID KNOW TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING AS A BACKSTOP.

SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE GREENBERG ONE, ONE OF THE GREENBERG WAY.

AND BUT AGAIN, FUNDING AND AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M TOO OFF TOPIC, AS IT SAYS OVERALL AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO FIT THIS IN.

WE WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS OVERALL, AGAIN, TO ME AND WHAT I LEARNED, YOU KNOW, FOR BONDS THAT WERE APPROVED THROUGH GISD, YOU KNOW, OUR BIGGEST GOAL EVENTUALLY IS TO GET A BOND LIKE THAT THAT ADDRESSES CITYWIDE HOW LACKING OUR STREETS AND IN CERTAIN AREAS DRAINAGE IS. YOU KNOW, TO ME, THE THE BIGGEST THING THAT THAT GISD WAS OVERCOME IS, YOU KNOW, THEY SPENT AN ENTIRE 12 MONTHS EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AS TO WHY A CERTAIN BOND WAS IMPORTANT.

AND IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE SHOVE A BOND DOWN, YOU KNOW, 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE BOND BEING VOTED ON.

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WE CAN ONLY EXPECT TO GET THE OUTCOME THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

SURE. AND THERE ARE PROBLEM STREETS IN GALVESTON BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.

THERE'S PROBLEM STREETS IN EVERY CITY. BUT WHAT'S OUR OVERALL PCI SCORE? IT'S FAIR.

I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE FAIR TO GOOD. SO LIKE LIKE THAT THAT REPORT, THAT REPORT THAT ADDRESSED THIS VERY TOPIC.

YOU KNOW, TO ME, BESIDES THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ONE TIME AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, HOPING THAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE VIDEO TO SEE THAT PRESENTATION.

BUT AGAIN, ASSUMPTIONS ARE MADE. PERCEPTION IS REALITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE MORE WE CAN TAKE A FREE SOURCE OF PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, OF THE PUBLIC GAINING KNOWLEDGE AS TO THAT REPORT.

YOU KNOW, WE PUT THAT REPORT ON A SOCIAL MEDIA EVERY TWO MONTHS AND RUN IT AND SAY, LOOK, WE'VE DONE A STUDY ON OUR STREETS AND DRAINAGE, AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE HOT TAX MONEY THAT YOU SEE GOING TO THE PARK BOARD IS NOT ABLE TO BE UTILIZED.

IT'S ONLY INTERNAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS.

AND IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ZEROING OUT OUR GENERAL FUND OR GOING TO THE CITY GOING TO OUR COMMUNITY TO ACCEPT THE BOND.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, I JUST AM ASKING IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PERSON BEING ASSIGNED TO TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC EVERY TWO MONTHS ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO SAY, HERE'S A REPORT. WE KNOW WHERE OUR STREETS ARE, WHICH ARE FAIR.

WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN STREETS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WREAKING HAVOC ON OUR CARS.

DEPLORABLE, DEPLORABLE. THAT'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LIST, RIGHT? THERE'S A LIST OF AND WE'RE MARCHING. OKAY. BUT GUESS WHAT? IF WE PUBLICIZE THAT LIST, WHAT'S THE HARM IN THAT? IF SOMEONE SAYS THERE'S MY ADDRESS? I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH MIKE PERKINS.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT STANDING UP THE WHOLE GIS UNIT TO PUT THE WHOLE STREETS ASSESSMENT OUT THERE, AND THE PLAN ON THE PAVING FORWARD WHERE YOU CAN CLICK IT.

IT'S ON THE INTERNET. IT'S JUST NOT ON THE INTERNET.

CORRECT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE SHAPEFILES RIGHT NOW TO PUSH THEM OVER.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY AND GO A LONG WAY.

IF SOMEONE HAS TURNED IN AND SAID, I HAVE 15 POTHOLES BECAUSE OF STREET CUTS ON A CERTAIN STREET, AND I'VE TURNED IT INTO TO HAVE IT ADDRESSED, AND I'M 23RD ON THE LIST, AND THEN EVERY TWO MONTHS I SEE THAT I'M MOVING UP ON THAT LIST, MAN. I WILL TELL YOU, THAT GOES A LONG WAY IN TRANSPARENCY.

IT GOES A LONG WAY IN EXPECTANCY. IT GOES A LONG WAY IN ESTABLISHING ESTABLISHING RESPECT.

AND THINGS WILL BE PERCEIVED IN A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T JUST SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE.

IT SEEMS LIKE, HEY, EVERYBODY'S IMPORTANT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE IN THE LIST. I SEE I'M MOVING UP.

WELL, AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER SIDE. I HAD MY HAND UP FIRST.

THERE'S THE OTHER SIDE. IF YOU WERE WATCHING THIS MEETING TODAY.

AND LET'S TALK. YOU KNOW WHAT WE STARTED? THOSE THAT STILL ARE HERE, LIVABLE COMMUNITIES.

WELL, HAVING YOUR STREETS CAVE IN, IT'S A VERY LIVABLE COMMUNITY.

AND WHEN YOUR CITIZENS WHO ARE PAYING TAXES, WHO LIVE HERE FULL TIME AND YOU HEAR THE PREFERENCES TO JUST PUT ALL THE MONEY DOWNTOWN, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY FEEL, WELL, WHY NOT OUR STREETS? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT USING THEM FOR STREETS. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SIDEWALKS.

YEAH, AND WE CAN EDUCATE THEM. BUT THAT MONEY CAN'T BE USED FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S AND I AGREE WITH BOTH. THAT'S WHERE A BIG CONFUSION COMES FROM. BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU READ THE BRAIN TRUST THAT SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT'S WHAT YOU HEAR ALL THE TIME, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS MONEY AND THEN BUT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SILOING AND THE RESTRICTIONS, BOTH FROM THE STATE AND IN OUR CHARTER ON HOW OUR MONEY IS SPENT.

LIKE THEY SAY, YOU'RE COLLECTING ALL THIS MONEY ON THE SEAWALL, WHY CAN'T YOU PAY IT? I CAN'T USE BEACH USER FEES TO PAVE THE SEAWALL.

YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE CAN'T USE POT TO PAVE THE SEAWALL AND OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR STREETS, OUR STREET CREW WAS OUT THERE BUSTING THEIR TAILS THE ENTIRE LAST WEEK AND STILL ONGOING, YOU KNOW, WITH INTERNAL REPAIRS, WHICH I, I ACTUALLY WENT THE WRONG WAY.

AND THEY HELPED GUIDE ME PAST THE STREETS. BUT THAT WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT PROJECT.

I CALLED HIM ONE NIGHT BECAUSE I WAS THAT WAS A CONTRACTOR THAT WASN'T THE CITY THAT THE CONTRACTOR WE PAID, WE PAID TO HELP IT BUILD UP. AND THE MILLING CREW PUT NON-REFLECTIVE BARRELS UP THERE, BUT DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T.

A PROJECT IN THE COUNTY BOND FOR THE TOTAL REPAVING OF THE SEA VAULT WALL.

WASN'T THAT APPROVED? NO. NO, NO, THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CARRYOVER SPEND DOWN FUNDS AS WELL.

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THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE THE PILOT MULTIMODAL.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MONEY? AND WE'RE USING IT THAT'S GOING FOR THE MATCH ON THE MULTIMODAL MATCH WAS COVERED AT THIS POINT.

ALL THE MATCHES WERE COVERED LIKE I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

THERE WAS NO LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE HTC PONIED UP THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDIT AND THEY ALSO DELAYED THE BOND.

SO I'M TALKING ABOUT, I THOUGHT IN THE BOND, OR AT LEAST ACCORDING TO JOE GIUSTI, WAS THE REPAVING OF THE SEAWALL.

THERE WAS THEY HAD SET ASIDE MONEY TO COVER THE MATCH REQUIREMENTS ON THE SEAWALL ON STEWART ROAD, WHICH WAS ALSO CARRYOVER SPIN DOWN FUNDS IN DISTRICT SIX THAT CAME FROM HTC AND THEN ALSO THE DOWNTOWN LIVABLE COMMUNITIES PROJECT THAT WAS ON THERE.

BUT HE DECIDED AFTER THE FACT, I KNOW I VOTED ON IT TO COVER TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS THEN.

SO THERE'S NO LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENTS ON THERE NOW.

AND SO NOW WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE THEY WANT TO PRIORITIZE THAT MONEY.

OR MAYBE WE HOLD BACK UNTIL WE GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS BUILT BECAUSE OF PAST PERFORMANCE IS ANY INDICATION.

ALL THE BIDS ARE GOING TO COME IN HIGHER AND HIGHER EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND.

AND SO IT MAY STILL BE RUNNING A DEFICIT. THE DESIGN OF THE SEAWALL REPAVING.

WE ARE WORKING ON THE DESIGN. THERE'S PAVING GOING ON UP THERE NOW.

WELL THAT'S A THAT'S A PATCH THAT WE DID BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROBABLY GET THE ASPHALT DOWN UNTIL NEXT YEAR IN THE CITY IS PAYING FOR THAT.

YES. WE PAID FOR THAT IS CORRECT. YES. AND WE'RE UNDER ACTIVE DESIGN RIGHT NOW FOR THE SEAWALL, ALSO FOR STEWART ROAD FROM SEVEN MILE TO 305 THERE.

AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO START ON THE DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENTAL PART OF IT.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT. YOU KNOW, IT TAKES TIME.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE ENGINEER. WE HAVE A VACANT ENGINEER POSITION.

IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN THAT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN REJECTED ON FOR THREE DIFFERENT OFFERS THAT WE EXTENDED BECAUSE WE PAY ABOUT HALF WHAT THE PORT PAYS.

YEAH, YEAH. SO THAT'S THE BOAT THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.

SO IN THE MEANTIME, CAN WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC? YES, YES, YES. THAT'S YOU. YES YES, YES. SHARON, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE STUDY THAT COMES BACK AND IT CATEGORIZES STREETS STREET ASSESSMENT. OKAY. BECAUSE SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREETS, THEN, SEELEY, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME IF YOU START FROM 30, LIKE ABOUT 34, 35TH AND GO DOWN, IT'S THE BUMPIEST HORRIBLE STREET. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY.

JUST BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS, FOR YEARS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT COMES UP ON THE LIST.

AND THEN IF YOU GO OVER TO CHURCH AND AGAIN, THESE ARE HOME OWNERS.

THESE PEOPLE PAY TAXES TO AS WELL. SO WHERE DO THOSE STREETS FALL ON THAT ASSESSMENT LIST? BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK THEM UP. YEAH, WE CAN GIVE YOU THE WHOLE LIST IF YOU THINK THAT'S BAD. THAT MEANS YOUR STREETS THAT ARE WORSE, THAT ARE AHEAD OF IT. IF IT HASN'T GOTTEN DONE YET, THAT'S THE THING. WE'LL PROVIDE YOU THE LIST. THE LIST IS RATHER AHEAD OF THAT REALLY.

AND REMEMBER, WE CHANGED OUR METHODOLOGY TO WE USED TO DO WORST FIRST BY DISTRICT.

SO IN SOME DISTRICTS, LIKE MURRAY'S DISTRICT OVERALL HAS A HIGHER PCI SCORE THAN MOST ANY OTHER DISTRICT.

SO A STREET LIKE BALUCH WOULD HAVE PERCOLATED UP TO THE TOP MUCH FASTER UNDER WORSE FIRST BY DISTRICT, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY DISTRICT.

SO THE WORST STREET IN THAT DISTRICT, POSSIBLY YOUR DISTRICT IS PROBABLY RIGHT UP THERE IN THE TOP DISTRICTS OF STREET CONDITIONS GO.

YOUR SEAL MIGHT HAVE PERCOLATED UP SOONER IN THOSE DISTRICTS AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE TRAFFIC CONSIDERATION OUT OF IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING WORSE FIRST BY DISTRICT COUNCIL DECIDED I THINK IT WAS A GOOD DECISION BECAUSE IT TAKES POLITICS OUT OF IT TO JUST DO WORSE FIRST.

THE WORST STREET IS THE WORST STREET. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE ONLY DRIVE ON OUR STREET.

I DRIVE ON A WHOLE LOT OF STREETS OUTSIDE OF.

JUST OUTSIDE OF BO'S DISTRICT, WHERE I LIVE, TO GET TO WORK EVERY DAY, TO GET TO MY WIFE'S BUSINESS, TO TAKE THE KIDS. I MEAN, SO THAT'S. THAT WAS THE THINKING BY COUNCIL AT THE TIME.

SO YOU'RE SAYING DISTRICT FOUR IS THE WORST STREET? NOT SO BAD.

I'D VENTURE TO SAY IT'S PROBABLY DAVID FINKLEA, BUT THAT'S MY MY, JUST MY QUICK GUESS.

SO, BALL STREET, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION REGARDING AND BALL STREET.

I THINK WHEN THEY BEGAN TO WORK ON THE STREETS GOING NORTH TO SOUTH, THAT THAT WAS INCLUSIVE OF MAYBE THE 3500 BLOCK OF BALL AND THE 3600 BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING UP 30. THAT WAS A DRAINAGE PROJECT.

OKAY. BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO REPAIR THE STREETS GOING ONE BLOCK EAST, ONE BLOCK WEST ON BALL STREET.

BUT BALL IS WELL TRAVELED, WELL TRAVELED. SO WHEN DOES THAT POP UP IN THE QUEUE? YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LIST. LET'S LOOK AT THE LIST. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL TRAVELED. AND IT'LL IT'LL PERCOLATE UP TO THE TOP. I DON'T AND IT MAY ONLY BE A SECTION OR TWO OF IT THAT HITS IT ONE TIME AND WE UPDATE IT. YEAH, WE UPDATE THE LIST EVERY YEAR.

WE BRING IT TO COUNCIL AS PART OF THE CIP. WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CONSULTANT TO COME DOWN AND REVISIT IT AS WELL.

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SO COUNCIL WANTS TO CHOOSE TO TWEAK WHATEVER STREETS ARE IN THERE OR RESHUFFLE THE DECK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ONCE STARTS FAILING FASTER THAN ANOTHER, THEN THAT'S TOTALLY WITHIN COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.

IT'S A COUNCIL ADOPTED PLAN, SO. VERY GOOD. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE ONE COMMENT ON THE STREETS.

I WON'T BE HERE AFTER MAY OR SO, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT STREETS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT BUDGET.

AND YOU HAVE TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT OUR TAX RATE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS ANY OTHER WAY.

SO. ALL RIGHT LET'S LET'S MOVE FORWARD. LET'S MOVE TO THREE R, PLEASE.

[3.R. Discussion of ongoing drainage issues in District 6, including weekend work activities and the prioritization of neighborhoods receiving drainage maintenance (Robb/C. Brown - 10 min)]

OKAY. THREE R DISCUSSION OF ONGOING DRAINAGE ISSUES IN DISTRICT SIX, INCLUDING WEEKEND WORK ACTIVITIES AND THE PRIORITIZATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS RECEIVING DRAINAGE MAINTENANCE. RIGHT. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DRAINAGE ISSUES IN EVERY DISTRICT.

I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. BUT WE HAVE SOME UNUSUAL ACTUALLY, WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT ARE CAUSED BY THE CITY. WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR A WHILE, BUT THEN WE HAVE A NEW PHENOMENA WHICH I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DRAIN.

SO AND I'M GOING TO SAY A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE KYLE WHERE WE PUT IN, WHAT IS IT? THE CULVERT UNDER DRIVEWAY. AND IT'S AN AREA WHERE THERE'S OPEN AND LOTS ON EITHER SIDE.

WE GO IN, WE PUT THE CULVERT IN, WE PUT THE DITCHES IN AND THEY GO TO NOWHERE.

SO THEY BECOME MOSQUITO POOLS. WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT HAVE EXISTED A LONG TIME, MAYBE FROM OLD DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS WHAT EXISTS IN SPANISH.

GRANT, WHERE I SENT AN EMAIL OVER REQUESTING WHEN BECAUSE MY I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE PROGRAM, AND BRANDON SENT AN EMAIL AND SAID HE SPOKE TO TYSON AND ROBB AND THAT THERE WASN'T EVER ANY PLAN.

SO I CALLED ROBB BECAUSE I KNEW THERE WAS A PLAN AND HE SAID, YES, THERE'S TWO WAYS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.

BUT ACCORDING TO BRANDON, WHO SAID HE SPOKE TO TYSON AND ROBB.

THERE WERE NO PROJECTS SCHEDULED PROGRAM? NO, ACTUALLY, YOU SAID THERE WAS NO PROJECT SCHEDULED, PERIOD. AND THEN WE HAVE JANELLE. I SENT YOU A VIDEO EARLIER.

CAN YOU PUT THAT UP? I DON'T KNOW. THEN WE HAVE THE PIRATES BEACH DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED BY THE CONCRETE. DRAINAGE PIPE HOLDERS THAT ARE COMPLETELY ERODING THE STREETS.

AND MORE THAN LIKELY, THE STREET ISSUE ON ISLA VIEW DRIVE WAS CAUSED BY DRAINAGE.

AND THEN THERE WAS ONE WEEKEND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH DRAINAGE ISSUES.