>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. [00:00:01] IT IS 9:00 A.M AND I AM OFFICIALLY CALLING THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH. [1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER] I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE AT THE TABLE. WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE THE WARS BOARD WITH US THIS MORNING. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN AND LADIES FOR BEING HERE. I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL, GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE THIS MORNING AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, GLAD TO HAVE YOU. AND FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE WATCHING IN THE COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO EXTEND A GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO YOU TO THE MEETING. COUNCIL, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE NOW BEING WATCHED THROUGHOUT THE STATE. I GOT A CALL A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO FROM A GENTLEMAN DOWN IN CORPUS CHRISTI, WHO SAID HE ENJOYS WATCHING OUR MEETINGS [LAUGHTER]. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> I'M NOT SURE FOR WHAT REASON HE DOES THAT. ANYWAY, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, AND WE ARE NOW OFFICIALLY IN ORDER FOR OUR WORKSHOP. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CALL THEIR MEETING TO ORDER TO OUR CHAIRMAN OF THE WARS BOARD VICTOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL, WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE. CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? >> CHAIRMAN VICTOR. >> HERE. >> CHAIRMAN JOE PATTERSON. >> HERE. >> JESSE WILLIE GONZALEZ, HE'S ON HIS WAY. TRUSTEE SHELA LIDSTONE. >> HERE. >> JESSE RICHARD. >> HERE. >> TRUSTEE ERIC STRAMLAD. >> HERE. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> VERY GOOD. WE DO HAVE EVERYONE HERE. >> I DECLARE WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND WOULD ASK, ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BY ANY TRUSTEE? BEING DONE, MAYOR, WE WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU. >> THANK YOU, VICK. THIS MORNING, COUNCIL, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH OUR JOINT MEETING, AS YOU SEE WITH THE WARS BOARD. THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON AT THE BOARD, [3.A Joint Meeting of City Council and Wharves Board] AND WE HAVE HAD A RETREAT FOR THE WARS BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO. A NUMBER OF SUBJECTS CAME UP AND AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADVANCEMENT AND ALL OF THE POSITIVE ACTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE WARS BOARD, THERE ARE CHALLENGES THAT OCCUR. THE WHARVES BOARD IS GETTING READY TO PRESENT TO US SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT LOOKING AT A MOBILITY STUDY THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED NOT ONLY WITH PORT ACTIVITY BUT CITY ACTIVITIES AND TRAFFIC FLOWS, ALSO, WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT NOW THAT AS WE'RE EXPANDING BEFORE ANY MORE A MAJOR EXPANSION OCCURS, THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS VERY CLOSELY. OUR GOAL TODAY, COUNCIL, IS TO SPEND AN HOUR ON OUR AGENDA TODAY TO GIVE INPUT TO THE PORT AND GET INPUT FROM THE PORT, AND THEN GIVE DIRECTION TO OUR STAFF, AND OF COURSE, THE WARS BOARD COULD GIVE DIRECTION TO THEIR STAFF ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. I'M NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIRPERSON. >> WELL, MAYOR, THANK YOU, AND COUNCIL. UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF MOBILITY ON THE ISLAND. WE'RE AN ISLAND WITH OVER 7 MILLION TOURS COMING IN. WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE EXPANSION OF OUR CRUISE BUSINESS AND IT'S A BLESSING AND SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO DEAL WITH. BUT WE CAN'T LOOK AT IT IN A VACUUM OF JUST ON PORT PROPERTY. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN CONNECTION TO OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND THE IMPACTS OF UTMB COMING ON AND OFF THE ISLAND. WE ALL WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF MOBILITY STUDY AND HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY WORK TOGETHER. >> WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, ALSO, JUST FROM HOUSEKEEPING CHORE, WE FORGOT TO CALL A ROLL CALL OF OUR COUNCIL. MAKE SURE WE HAD A QUORUM, JANELLE. COULD YOU DO THAT, PLEASE, MA'AM? >> MAYOR BROWN. >> PRESENT. >> MAYOR PRO TEM ROB. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOUIS? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PERETO? >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ROLLINS? >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FINKLEY IS ABSENT THIS MORNING. >> WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER FINKLEY. >> MAYOR, JUST SO THAT WE CAN FOLLOW OUR AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> NO REQUESTS FROM THE PORTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I WOULD SAY TOO FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT COUNCIL, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HOPE THAT WE BRING FORWARD HERE IN THIS DISCUSSION, ONE IS, WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT A MOBILITY STUDY IS COMPARED TO A TRAFFIC STUDY. [00:05:05] THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DISTINCT STUDIES WITH DIFFERENT OUTCOMES, SO WE NEED TO BE CLEAR TO THAT, AND FOR THE COMMUNITY ALSO. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT BOUNDARIES, AND WHAT WOULD BE THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS STUDY? WE NEED TO FOCUS IN ON THOSE AREAS THAT WILL GIVE US THE RESULTS THAT WE REALLY WANT IF THIS GETS TOO BROAD THEN IT COULD BE WATERED DOWN TO THE POINT THAT WE MAY NOT GET THE GUIDANCE THAT WE WANT FROM THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT FUNDING AND HOW THAT FUNDING WOULD OCCUR AND SO FORTH ON HOW THAT WOULD MOVE FORWARD FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT. IF WE COMBINE OUR EFFORTS WITH THE PORT OR OF COURSE, FROM THE PORT STANDPOINT ALSO. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TIMELINE AND HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE. I KNOW THAT THE PORT'S GOING TO SHARE WITH SOME IDEAS ABOUT SOME REQUEST FROM SOME OF THE PARTICULAR TENANTS AT THE PORT. I'M WANTING TO TRY TO EXPAND AND THIS TIMELINE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THEY'RE VERY OPEN TO AND ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD BE ALSO. AS I MENTIONED, WE WANT TO BE AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE, COUNCIL, ON DIRECTION TO OUR STAFF SO THAT THEY KNOW HOW THEY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN THEIR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PORT. >> WHILE WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS IN OUR RETREAT, WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUTCOMES DO WE WANT TO ATTAIN. WHAT DO WE WANT THIS MOBILITY STUDY TO SHOW TO US AS SUPPORT AND TO THE CITIZENS OF GALVESTON AND THE CITY ITSELF? >> I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DAVID CLICLIER LAST WEEK AND HIS [OVERLAPPING]. >> LET'S ACKNOWLEDGE [INAUDIBLE] >> WITH THIS NEW BOOKSHOP. >> I CAN LOOK AT IT. >> I'M SORRY BROWN. >> THAT'S OKAY. >> HIS COMMENTS TO ME WERE HE THOUGHT WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT. SOUTH OF BROADWAY. RATHER THAN HAVING A WHOLE ISLAND STUDY. I THINK THIS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HE HAD SAID BEFORE. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO DO THE WHOLE ISLAND AND SEEING HOW THAT LOOKED AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES HERE. PARKS BOARD HAS PUT IN A NICE SIGN SYSTEM, OR PUTTING IN A NICE SIGN SYSTEM, WHICH IS MOBILITY, HOW WE GET AROUND THE ISLAND AND MOST OF THAT IS NORTH IS SOUTH OF HARBORSIDE DRIVE. BROADWAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR WE WANT TO GET INTO THAT. WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE AGAIN, IS A COUPLE OF THINGS, WE'RE SEEING AS YOU AS YOU NOTICED, OUR PEOPLE COMING DOWN THE SIDE STREETS TO THE CRUISE TERMINALS AND HOW WE COMBAT THAT. HERE AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, A HARBOR SIDE DRIVE, ONE LANE IS GOING TO BE CLOSED ON HARBOR SIDE DRIVE THE REST OF THIS YEAR, WORKING ON THE RAIL ROAD CROSSINGS. WE HAD A SCARE LAST WEEK ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] WE THOUGHT WITH TWO LANES AT ONCE, WHICH WOULD HAVE STOPPED ALL THE CARGO FROM THE PORT LEAVING, AS WELL AS HINDRANCE TO THE CRUISE BUSINESS. I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE REALLY IS. I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TRAFFIC AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS THING IS GOING TO SAY OTHER THAN YOU GOT TRAFFIC AND IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU YOUR CHOKE POINTS. IF YOU GO TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IT'S GOING TO TELL US WHERE OUR CHOKE POINTS ARE, WHICH WE'VE DONE THAT ON ALL OF OUR TERMINALS. WE KNOW WHERE OUR CHOKE POINTS ARE. SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDIES WE'VE DONE THE CHOKE POINTS ARE INSIDE THE TERMINALS THEMSELVES, INSIDE THE AREAS AROUND THE GROUND GROUND TRANSPORTATION. WE HAD A FOUR SHIP DAY THIS PAST SUNDAY. I GOT SEVERAL REPORTS THAT THERE WAS NOT REALLY A BIG ISSUE. IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAD ALL THE MIERS HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE ALSO IS REMOVING TRAFFIC INTO 25 AND 28 FURTHER WEST NOW. COMING AT 33RD, MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND THE ROSENBERG HARBORSIDE DRIVE. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH A COUPLE OF OUR PARTNERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN POSSIBLY EXPANSION. I WILL SAY I'M UNDER AN NDA AS IT RELATES TO THAT EXTENSION OR TO THAT DISCUSSION. [00:10:07] WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND I'M NOT TELLING ANY SECRETS HERE. I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING INTERNALLY. I I'VE MENTIONED TO THEM. THE ONLY WAY I SEE THIS THING GETTING ANY FEET OR MOVING FORWARD IS THEY GO TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY THEMSELVES, WHICH WILL FOCUS AROUND AN ADDITIONAL TERMINAL OPPORTUNITY SHOULD THAT HAPPEN. I THINK THAT PLUS THE COMPANY THAT DOES OUR MASTER PLAN, WOLPERT, ACTUALLY PURCHASED BA THIS PAST YEAR. AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH [INAUDIBLE] WHO DOES OUR MASTER PLAN. THEY WERE PURCHASED BY THIS COMPANY AND WHO HAS AN OFFICE IN HOUSTON AND THEY DO THIS WORK. THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE THIS WORK. A LOT OF QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS TYPE OF INFORMATION FROM DEVELOPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT THEIR EXPERTISE IS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF SOURCES THERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND TALKING TO AND OBVIOUSLY, WE THINK THAT WE'RE HANDLING TRAFFIC PRETTY WELL. I'M JUST BEING HONEST. I THINK THAT WE FEEL LIKE THAT FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT HERE AND FROM WHAT YOU MAYBE NOT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE TRAFFIC IS WORKING PRETTY WELL RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THAT THE QUESTION IS, IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE ANOTHER IN MORE GROWTH, HOW THAT IS AFFECTED. WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. HERE AGAIN, IT'S NOT SO MUCH WE AS THE PORT DOING THIS, BUT IT IS WE AS A POTENTIAL EXPANSION TENANT WHO WANTS TO HEAD THIS THING AHEAD. THEY'LL BE GLAD TO COME HERE AND TALK TO THIS GROUP. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION THEY WANT TO COME IN AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. HERE AGAIN HOW EXTENSIVE. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL MEETING HERE TO DISCUSS IS WHERE DOES THIS THING GO? THAT'S JUST AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SITUATIONS WHERE THIS THING COULD BE DONE FOR US. IF WE'RE SO INCLINED TO THAT AND HERE AGAIN, THERE WAS CONVERSATION AT ONE POINT IN TIME TO INCLUDE THE WHOLE ISLAND AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF OUR RETREAT IS A COUPLE OF MITIGATING FACTORS TO THIS TRAFFIC IS IF WE COULD BUILD A PARKING GARAGE FURTHER WEST SO TO GET THE TRAFFIC OFF HARBOR SIDE BEFORE IT GETS TO DOWNTOWN. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO TO BUILD ANOTHER PARKING GARAGE SOMEWHERE AROUND THE PIER TEN AREA WHERE WE COULD WORK WITH A REAL ESTATE COMMITTEES GOAL OF OPENING THAT UP TO THE GREEN SPACE COMPONENT AND THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT JUST PARKING AND MOBILITY DRIVEN, IT'S DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN AND TRYING TO BE SMART ABOUT WHERE WE'RE WANTING TO GO AS A PORT WORKING WITH THE CITY. WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME CREATIVE IDEAS. >> I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS HERE. I WANT TO MENTION TO MOBILITY STUDY. GUIDE ME, GENTLEMEN THAT HAVE FAR MORE EXPERTISE ON THIS AND EVENTUALLY, I WANT TO HEAR FROM JEFF TOO. JEFF, YOU HAD TALKED WITH ME AT LENGTH ABOUT SOME THINGS. A MOBILITY STUDY IS NOT ONLY VEHICULAR, BUT IT'S PEDESTRIAN ALSO AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT DOWN THERE. BE GETTING PEOPLE ACROSS HARBOR SIDE IS A MAJOR ISSUE OVER THERE. I WANT TO LOOK AT PERSONALLY, I WANT TO LOOK AT THE CONNECTION OF THE PORT TO DOWNTOWN. HOW WE GET INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING OFF A CRUISE SHIPS OR WAITING TO GO ON OR COME EARLY TO COME DOWN TO DOWNTOWN AND SHOP AND TO VISIT OUR RESTAURANTS. I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT. I WANT TO LOOK AT THE ROLE OF TROLLEYS AND SHUTTLES OF MOVING PEOPLE FROM THE PORT TO DOWNTOWN ON A PARTICULAR CIRCUIT THAT RUNS CONSTANTLY THAT PEOPLE CAN RELY UPON A COMING DOWNTOWN. THIS MOBILITY STUDY NEEDS TO TAKE IN ALL FACETS OF THAT, NOT JUST TRAFFIC ITSELF. I THINK THAT'S IN MY OPINION, VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT TO THIS. WE HAD ALEX AND THEN MARIE, [00:15:02] AND THEN I THINK BOB AND THEN I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM JEFF IF THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] >> I THINK THERE'S A SCALE. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THIS COMPANY OR WHOEVER COULD FUND THE WHOLE MOBILITY STUDY FOR THE CITY, BUT I THINK THAT BECOMES CUMBERSOME AND OUTSIDE OF THE PORTS MAIN GOAL AND FOCUS IS GETTING PEOPLE IN AND OFF THE CRUISE SHIPS IN DOWNTOWN PORT EFFICIENTLY. I THINK THE SCALE, AT LEAST AS FAR AS THE PORT AND THE CITY WORKING TOGETHER, COULD BE CONCERNED IS THAT AREA OF TIK MAN 71ST, THE TRIANGLE FROM THERE TO PEER TEN TO BROADWAY AND BACK. BASICALLY, THAT FOCUS TRIANGLE WHERE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE GOING DOWN 37TH STREET. WE DO HAVE 33RD STREET, 14TH STREET. IF SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO GO, WE CAN'T STOP THE UBER PLATFORM DRIVERS FROM GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT WE HAVE COMMERCIAL DRIVERS. YOU ALL HAVE CONTRACTS WITH COMMERCIAL COMPANIES. THIS IS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, WHERE YOU HAVE PRIVATE PARTNERS MAKING SURE THEY STICK TO THE LANE STRUCTURE, MAKING SURE THAT, IT'S AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ABOUT MOVING TRAFFIC OFF, ADDITIONAL PARKING STRUCTURES, WHETHER IT BE EAST OR WEST OF THE PORT TERMINALS ALTOGETHER. IT DOES HELP GET TRAFFIC OFF. YOU'RE FULL FOR WHAT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS? YOU'RE PRE BOOKED FOR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS ON YOUR SITE. >> BECAUSE WE REALLY ONLY HAVE A SHIP AND A HALF IN THERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE NORWEGIAN DOES START TO 28 IN GARAGE YOU ONLY HAVE MSC IN THERE. BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE HAD ABOUT 100 CARS FROM CG 10 THAT OPTED TO PARK IN THAT NEW GARAGE. >> YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THIS SCALE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TALKING THERE'S THE BIGGER SCALE. THEN HOW DO WE NARROW IT DOWN. IF WE'RE GOING TO PICK BROADWAY, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW DO WE PUT SIGNAGE UP OR DIRECT PEOPLE FROM BROADWAY TO MAKE A LEFT ON 14TH STREET? THAT'S IMPACTFUL THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT DRIVING DOWN 18TH STREET, WHICH WOULD BE A TERRIBLE. YOU'RE HITTING A STOP SIGN EVERY, HOW DO WE DIRECT THAT TRAFFIC TO GET THERE? AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT HARBORSIDE, ANYONE'S BEEN TO NEW ORLEANS? THEY'VE WALKED TO THE BOARDWALK YOU HAVE THE I MEAN, IT'S IT'S OVER A RAILROAD TRACK. YOU GET ON AN ESCALATOR, YOU WALK A FEW FEET, YOU GET DOWN AN ESCALATOR, AND HEY, LOOK, YOU'RE THERE, RIGHT RIGHT IN THE BOARDWALK AREA. I THINK THE MAYOR MENTIONED SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO LOOK AT, ESPECIALLY FOR MOBILITY. THEN THAT TRANSIT STATION ON 25TH STREET WAS INTERESTING GOING TO THE JUBILEE SHIP AND SEEING THE BIG WALL. YOU SEE THIS LONG WALKWAY WITH THE WALL. WE CAN TRY TO I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE, ESPECIALLY FOR HOW OLD THAT STRUCTURE IS AND GETTING IT OPENED UP. BUT MORE IDEAS LIKE THAT WHERE IF YOU HAD DIRECT ACCESS TO IT. TERMINAL 16 IS A DIFFERENT BEAST, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR ACCESS DIRECTLY RIGHT TO THE GATES, BUT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHICH SCALE WE GO ON. BIG SCALE HARBOR SIDE, PIER 10, 14TH STREET BACK. THEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE MINUTE SCALE WHERE WE HAVE THESE NORTH SOUTH STREETS. HOW DO WE DIRECT PEOPLE FROM THE BROADWAY TO THE NORTH SOUTH STREETS? THEN HOW DO WE ON HARBOR SIDE, IT'S MORE OF I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT LAST TIME WITH THE ELECTRONIC, BREEZE TELL YOU WHICH LANE YOU SHOULD BE IN AT THE TIME TO GET TO YOUR SHIP, SO YOU'RE NOT SITTING IN ONE LANE WAITING FOR SEASCAPE WHEN YOU'RE IN YOU GOT ALL THE BREEZE TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE SITTING BEHIND IT. YOU CAN JUST EASILY GO RIGHT. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WILL SIT IN TRAFFIC JUST BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. I THINK LOOKING AT THE SCALES, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD GO OUTSIDE OF THAT LARGE SCALE. UNLESS YOU'RE JUST IT WOULD BE JUST A MONETARY SUPPORT, I THINK FOR ISLAND WIDE CITY MOBILITY PLAN BECAUSE I THINK IT GOES OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE. >> MARIE. >> I BEG TO DIFFER. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO AN ISLAND WIDE STUDY, BUT I DO THINK WE CERTAIN NEED TO DO FROM 100 TO BECAUSE WE KNOW ONE FACT THAT'S TRUE. FROM YOUR STUDY, THAT WHAT 40% OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY IS NOW DRIVEN BY CRUISE SLIDES. [00:20:02] THIRTY-FIVE PERCENT. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE BEFORE GOING BACK AND FORTH FROM HOTELS. BECAUSE I THINK HARBORSIDE IS PERSONALLY, AND I'M SOMEBODY WHO GOES OUT AND DRIVES IT ON WEEKENDS, IS LESS OF AN ISSUE THAN MORE ALL COMBINED TOURISM, WHICH I SUPPORT. BECAUSE THIS WEEKEND, WITH, HOWEVER, MANY THREES TO 500,000 PIKES HERE, THREE BOATS GOING OUT ON SATURDAY, FOUR BOATS GOING OUT ON SUNDAY, AND I DROVE AROUND BOTH DAYS PURPOSELY AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AS WELL AS I WATCHED GOOGLE AND WAYS. THE ONLY SOW DOWNS ON HARBORSIDE WERE WHERE TWO LIGHTS ARE. THAT'S ALWAYS SORT OF A FICTITIOUS THING WITH BOTH THE APPS. BUT THE BIGGEST BOONDOGGLE ON THE ISLAND THIS WEEKEND WAS THE MASS EXODUS ON SUNDAY ON 61ST STREET. THAT WAS BACKED UP PROBABLY TO 89TH STREET. THAT WAS CAUSED BY A LOT OF TOURS THAT WE HAD IN. DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE 100% THE PORTS BURDEN, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT BOTH TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY AND CERTAINLY THE WAY FINDING. BUT I DO AGREE WITH ALEX 100%. HAVING GONE TO THE JUBILEE AND FINDING YOUR ASSIGNED LOT, I FOUND VERY CONFUSING. I THINK WE COULD DO MORE SIGNAGE INTERNALLY THAT WILL HELP MOVE PEOPLE FASTER. BUT I WAS SURPRISED BECAUSE WITH ALL THOSE VEHICLES AND MOTORCYCLES ON THE ISLAND, AND I DROVE UP AND DOWN NEIGHBORHOODS. PEOPLE WERE PROBABLY BITCHING BECAUSE I WAS DRIVING THERE, BUT JUST TO SEE WHAT IT REALLY WAS LIKE, BECAUSE I LIKE TO EXPERIENCE THINGS. THERE WERE VERY FEW ISSUES EXCEPT FOR THAT MASS AIDS ON SUNDAY. >> WE'RE GOING TO START. REALLY YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY AND A MOBILITY STUDY, WELL, I THINK RATHER THAN PUT SOME LABELS ON IT, I THINK WE NEED ELEMENTS OF BOTH. WE NEED ELEMENTS. WE DO NEED TRAFFIC COUNTS TO BE A TRAFFIC STUDY, TRAFFIC COUNTS, INTERSECTION COUNTS, LEVEL OF SERVICE, ALL THAT THING. THAT'S IN THE PORT'S BEST INTEREST, BUT WE ALSO IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST, WE NEED MORE OF A MOBILITY STUDY. I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD LIMIT THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS THING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON IT AND AND TRY TO SOLVE SOME IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE TO ALSO ANTICIPATE THE FUTURE. THE IMPACT ON WHAT HAPPENS AT THE PORT IS FELT IN A LIMITED AREA DOWNTOWN. BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AND WE CAN'T FORGET THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PLAN, CALL IT A MOBILITY PLAN, TRAFFIC PLAN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. IT'S GOING TO HAVE ELEMENTS OF BOTH, BUT WE CAN'T NEGLECT THEIR ISSUES DOWN THERE. IN SEPTEMBER, WE MET CRAIG AND TRAY CLICK AND I MET MET TOGETHER AND TALKED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE ALL HEAR FROM DOWNTOWN PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A PERSISTENT COMPLAINT FROM THE DOWNTOWN PEOPLE. THE MERCHANTS ARE STRUGGLING. IT'S RESIDENTS DON'T LIKE THE PARKING SITUATION. THE MERCHANTS DON'T LIKE THE PARKING SITUATION FOR THEIR FOR THEIR WORKERS. WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THERE, BUT THEY ARE IMPACTED BY WHAT HAPPENS AT THE WATERFRONT AND PORT. IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE, BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, MOST CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THIS IS HOW WE PROVIDE SAFE, INTUITIVE, AND COMFORTABLE PASSAGE BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND THE WATERFRONT ACROSS HARBORSIDE DRIVE. THAT'S CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF ALL OF THIS. IN TERMS OF BOUNDARIES, WITH THE IDEA OF TRYING TO LIMIT IT NOR TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS, A POST OFFICE STREET IS A MATURE AREA, VERY BUSY STREET, AND 14TH STREET IS A MATURE AREA, VERY BUSY STREET. FOR A STUDY, I WOULD GO AT LEAST ONE STREET BEYOND THOSE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE FOR THIS AND GALVESTON IS GROWING. IT'S GOING TO GROW POTENTIALLY, BUT GROW BEYOND THOSE MATURE AREAS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW OVER THERE. I WOULD PUT THE LIMITS TO AT LEAST 13TH STREET TO 33RD STREET, I THINK, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING, AND THEN ALSO CHURCH TO THE WATERFRONT. FOR A POTENTIAL AREA TO LOOK AT. NOW, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE PORT HAS, I AGREE WITH ALL OF THEM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE, AGAIN, THE DOWNTOWN CONCERNS. [00:25:01] AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT PARKING. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PARKING DEMAND. WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? WHERE ARE PEOPLE COMING FROM? WHERE ARE THEY TRYING TO GET TO? WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PARKING SUPPLY THAT'S AVAILABLE. WHAT TYPE OF PARKING? IS IT CURBSIDE PARKING? IS IT VALET PARKING? IS A SERVICE LOT? IS IT GARAGE? THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE POTENTIAL OPTIONS. THERE COULD BE SOME SURFACE LOTS THAT ARE UNDER UTILIZED. I KNOW THERE'S PARKING GARAGES THAT ARE UNDER UTILIZED AND COME UP WITH SOME BEST PRACTICE METRICS. HOW DO OTHER PLACES SOLVE THIS PROBLEM? WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SILVER BULLET FOR EVERYBODY, BUT WE CAN DO THE BEST WE CAN. WHAT IS WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION FOR HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO PARK DOWNTOWN? WHAT SHOULD WE LOOK AT THAT? I KNOW THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS WHO THINK THEY SHOULDN'T PAY ANYTHING AT ALL. WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT DOES'T HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. PARKING IS ESPECIALLY IN A PLACE THAT WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT BEFORE CARS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF ACCOMMODATION FOR CARS THAT OTHER CITIES DO THAT WEREN'T BUILT IN THE 19TH CENTURY. I THINK MY POINT IS, AND TO DO THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THAT IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STAKEHOLDERS DOWNTOWN HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS. WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE BEING HEARD. BECAUSE THEIR PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. IDENTIFY THE AREA. I GUESS SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SIDE WALK ON WHAT THIS RFP IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR. WHATEVER THE CONSULTANT IS GOING TO WHATEVER CONSULTANT IS GOING TO UNDERTAKE THIS. THEN GET SOME STAFF WORK ON IT, MAYBE THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE WORK ON IT. I THINK I HEARD THAT BEFORE. THEN COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A DRAFT RFP FOR GETTING THIS WORK DONE. >> YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR. >> SOMETHING YOU SAID YOU SAID YOU MET WITH TREY AND SOMEONE ELSE. >> CORRECT. I MAY BE. >> HAVE YOU EVER GO OUT AND ACTUALLY TALK TO THE BUSINESS. >> YEAH. I'VE HEARD FROM A BUNCH OF THEM THERE AND I'VE GONE OUT AND TALK TO HIM. I'VE GONE DOWN THERE WHEN EVENTS ARE GOING ON. DOWNTOWN HAS TROUBLE WITH EVENTS AS WELL. SOME OF THE MERCHANTS FEEL LEFT OUT. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE MAY LOOK AT IS WHAT ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES TO CUT TO SHUTTING DOWN SOME OF THE STREETS, ACCORDING TO WHAT KIND OF EVENT IT IS. WHERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVE PLACES EVENTS COULD BE HELD THAT MAY BE ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN? THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT COULD BE EXPLORED, INCLUDING CIRCULATING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION GOING FROM THE CIS SHIP TERMINALS TO DOWNTOWN, SATELLITE PARKING, WITH SHUTTLES, ALL OF THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCLUDE WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM DOWNTOWN. >> BUT I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK DIRECTLY TO THE BUSINESSES AND HOTELS AND THE RESTAURANTS. >> WE HAVE I'M SORRY, BOB HAVE EVERYTHING YOU ANSWER. IS THAT IT PRONOUNCED IT. >> MAYOR I THINK WHAT I MEANT BY TALKING TO OUR CORPORATE PARTNERS, WHICH IS LIKE THE MASS TRANSIT, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE. IF THEY DON'T KNOW OR THE PORT LEANS ON THEM IN THE CITY AND THE PORT TOGETHER, SAY, HEY, THINK ABOUT OFFERING BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN, OFFER CRUISE STORAGE. THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM OF A HAVING PEOPLE STAY, YOU LESSEN THE TRAFFIC UP FRONT IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEY STAY, THEY SPEND MONEY. THERE'S A SALES TAX. THERE'S THAT GENERATION OF HOT TAX IF THEY END UP STAYING FOR THE WEEK A WEEK AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER OR BEFORE. THE HOTELS, YOU CAN SAY, HEY, CRUISE PASSENGER COMPANY X. START TRYING TO OFFER HOTEL PICKUP. THAT WAY, YOU CAN REMOVE THE CARS THAT ARE COMING OFF THE UBERS. UNDERCUT UBER OR ANYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE MASS TRANSIT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A 14 PASSENGER VAN PICK UP 14 PASSENGERS RATHER THAN HAVING SIX OR SEVEN CARS OF SINGLE PASSENGER. >> CONFUSING PEOPLE. >> THEY WILL, BUT IT'S LEANING ON THEM. IT'S NOT LEANING ON THEM SAYING YOU MUST DO THIS. BUT HEY, THINK ABOUT OFFERING THIS. THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO FOR MOBILITY. DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, THIS IS A DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO FOR MOBILITY. THAT'S HOW BRING EVERYBODY ON BOARD THAT JUST THROW OUT SOME IDEAS. THERE'S THAT ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF IT. >> FROM THE HOTEL STANDPOINT, A LOT OF THEM ARE DOING THAT ALREADY. THAT'S ALREADY GOOD. >> IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS YOU THINK. I'VE WORKED IN THAT INDUSTRY, AND IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS YOU THINK. THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES. SOME OF THEM ARE DOING IT, SOME OF THEM DROP THE SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT IF THE PORT CAN FACILITATE THAT AND MAKE IT EASIER, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP. >> IF WE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, [00:30:01] WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE EXCLUDED RIGHT NOW FROM THIS DOLLAR PER DAY PER VEHICLE FOR FOR PARKING FOR CRUISE LINES, SO ON OUR PARKING FEE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT CLOSELY. JEFF, YOU WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS. >> I JUST HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO DAVID ENGINEER TO ENGINEER, BUT BECAUSE MY BACKGROUND IS NOT IN TRAFFIC. I THOUGHT DAVID HAD SOME GOOD PERSPECTIVES THERE AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCOPE, AND I GUESS ONE POINT HE STRONGLY MADE, AND I AGREE IS WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL OF THE SCOPE OF THIS BECAUSE IF YOU GET IT AND I UNDERSTAND YOU BROADWAY IS A PART OF THIS, 61ST, ALL THOSE, BUT IF YOU GET IT TOO BROAD, THEN YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING WHAT HE WOULD CALL A CORRIDOR STERN. YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY MORE ISLAND WIDE. I THINK THIS, I THINK IN OUR MINDS, ANYWAY FROM A PORT PERSPECTIVE, I PUT BIRDS IN MY COLLEAGUES MOUSE HERE, BUT I THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO FOCUS ON GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE PORT. I GUESS DAVID USED THE PHRASE THE LAST MILE PERFORMANCE. THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE BOTTLE NECKS COME. HIS COMMENT IS WAS ANYWAY, WE TALKED ABOUT BOUNDARIES AND BOB ALLUDED TO THE MAYBE THE 14TH STREET TO 33RD STREET, THE WATER, MAYBE TO POST OFFICE, SOMEWHERE SOMEWHERE IN THAT BOUNDARY. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WON'T GET IMPACT, SO YOU REALLY WON'T SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON BROADWAY, BUT PEOPLE ON BROADWAY ARE GOING TO COME INTO THAT ENVELOPE FROM SOMEWHERE. YOU'LL PICK THEM UP AS THEY COME IN, AND A PART OF THIS COULD BE IT'LL TELL US THE SIGNAGE WE NEED TO PUT ON BROADWAY OR HARBOR SIDE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. THE FACT THAT WE KIND OF MAYBE LIMIT THIS THING TO A BOUNDARY FAIRLY CLOSE AROUND THE PORT, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE WON'T BE SOLUTIONS THAT GET OUT INTO BROADER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK THE COMMENT AND I THINK AT DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH AND STUDY IS IF YOU GET THIS TOO BIG, YOU LOSE THE GRANULARITY. WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON 23RD STREET AND 23RD AND STRAND AND, SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE'RE GETTING THOSE AND IF YOU GET THIS THING TOO BIG YOU LOSE SOME OF THAT GRANULARITY. MY COMMENT ON DAVID WOULD IF HE WAS HERE, HE WOULD DEFINITELY STAY. LET'S BE CAREFUL HOW WE HOW WE BOUNDARY THIS. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THAT WHAT HE WOULD CALL THE GET THAT THOUGHT IN YOUR HEAD, THE LAST MILE PERFORMANCE COMING INTO THE PORT. THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL EXPANSION AT THE TERMINAL 10, I GUESS HIS COMMENT WAS IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC WE HAVE IS THE TRAFFIC WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, SO YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE BASING COUNTS AND THINGS ON THAT. BUT THEN YOU HAVE THAT BASIS THAT MODEL BASIS, THEN YOU WHAT HE WOULD CALL STRESS TEST THAT FOR A POTENTIAL AND THAT MAY BE SOME COOPERATION BETWEEN THE STUDY THAT THIS OTHER ENTITY IS DOING AND THIS IS THAT YOU BRING THOSE TRAFFIC CAM. YOU BRING THOSE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC INTO THIS AND YOU BASICALLY STRESS TEST AND SEE WHAT THAT DOES TO THE MODEL THAT YOU'VE BUILT OF THIS AREA. THE OTHER THING, I GUESS, HE ACTUALLY DID GO INTO INTERESTING. HE WENT INTO CHATGPT AND I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY'S SEEN THIS, BUT HE WENT INTO CHATGPT AND ACTUALLY PRODUCED A PRETTY GOOD REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. MAYBE IF I COULD JUST READ READ THE PURPOSE HERE. I SOUND LIKE I'LL DO MY BEST ELECTRONIC VOICE OF CHATGPT, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS WOULD BE TO EVALUATE AND RECOMMEND NEAR TERM AND LONG TERM MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO SAFELY AND EFFICIENTLY ACCOMMODATE CRUISE PASSENGER EMPLOYEE AND VISITOR TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE GALVESTON PORT AND DOWNTOWN. THE STUDY WILL IDENTIFY CONGESTION, CIRCULATION, PARKING, AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY DEFICIENCIES WITHIN THE STUDY AREA AND DEVELOP ACTIONABLE, COST EFFECTIVE COUNTERMEASURES. >> PRETTY GOOD. >> WELL, I AGREE WITH YOUR ROBOT. >> YOUR ROBOT. I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT SAY. I WOULD SAY THOUGH, IF WE WERE TO DO A SEAWALL TRAFFIC STUDY, I'M PRETTY SURE WE WOULD INCLUDE BROADWAY. I THINK BROADWAY DELINEATES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEAWALL AND ALL BUSINESS DOWNTOWN, INCLUDING THE PORT, OF COURSE. I AGREE WITH BOB IN THINKING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO GO ONE OR TWO BLOCKS FURTHER THAN WHAT YOU ACTUALLY THINK. BUT THAT'S ALL OF US JUST GIVING OUR TWO CENTS AND OUR EXPERIENCES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO CERTAINLY DO IS BEFORE WE DESIGNATE AN AREA, TALK TO OTHER EXPERTS, AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? TELL US WHAT THE SCOPE SHOULD BE, AND THEN LET US CHOOSE MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE. WE TALKED ABOUT PARKING GARAGES, AND VICK TOUCHED ON THAT TOO, ACTUALLY. BECAUSE WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT HAVING MORE SHUTTLES DROPPING OFF PEOPLE. I THINK LONG TERM THAT'S GOING TO HELP A LOT OF THE CONGESTION PROBLEM. THE TROLLEY THING IS SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF IT TWO YEARS AGO WITH THOSE THINGS THEY USE. THAT COULD BE GREAT DELIVERING PASSENGERS TO THE TERMINALS. [00:35:05] I HAD SOMETHING ELSE. I'M SURE WE'LL COME BACK, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MORE TIME, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO OTHER MOBILITY EXPERTS AND IT'S NOT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT CARS, IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE. I KNOW THE OTHER ONE WAS ACCESS POINTS. OBVIOUSLY ON HARBOR SIDE, AND THE QUICKEST DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO POINTS IS A STRAIGHT LINE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. BUT WHEN YOU START TO ADD ACCESS POINTS, THAT'S WHERE THINGS SLOW UP, OBVIOUSLY. WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THE CROSSOVER DONE HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT. I'M BEING OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT. FEWER CROSSOVER POINTS. I THINK DESIGNATED AREAS, THAT'S WHY IN MY MIND, YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE BROADWAY BECAUSE SIGNAGE IS SO IMPORTANT COMING OFF THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO SECTIONS, YOU HAVE THE 25TH AND 28TH TERMINAL, AND YOU HAVE THE EAST END TERMINALS FOR JUST 10 AND 16. THOSE YOU REALLY DON'T WANT THEM GOING DOWN THE HARBORSIDE. I IMAGINE YOU'D WANT THEM COMING DOWN BROADWAY. >> RICHARD, I KNOW YOU HAD A LOT OF. >> YEAH. I THINK THAT ALL OF US KEEP IN MIND OUR MAIN PAIN POINTS. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ABOUT THIS IS THAT THIS REALLY NEEDS TO BE A MULTI-MODAL STUDY AND WE CAN'T FORGET HOW IMPORTANT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE PORT AREA AND TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS. WE CAN'T FORGET THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND FLOWS THAT THAT REPRESENTS AND HOW THEY IMPACT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND HOW VEHICULAR TRAFFIC IMPACTS THEM. I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO MIGRATE TO VEHICLES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SEE AND THEY'RE BIG AND THEY'RE STALLED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. BUT I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF DOWNTOWN AND PORT AND HOW TO GET THAT TRAFFIC. I VISUALIZE WORLD WHERE SOMEDAY THAT'S LOOKED AT AS JUST ONE BIG AREA. I WOULDN'T MIND IF IF THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY RENAMED IT TO BE THE DOWNTOWN HARBOR AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND YOU USE THAT. OUTSIDERS BECOME USED TO THINKING OF IT AS ONE BIG AREA, AND THAT THE FLOW WORKS BEST THAT. I THINK WE'RE TARGETING IN ON SOME PRETTY REASONABLE STUDY AREAS. I THINK WE'LL GET THERE. I THINK WE NEED TO TURN ACTUALLY, I THINK WE NEED TO TURN THIS OVER TO THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE. MY SUGGESTION IS WE DO THAT AND LET THEM COME UP WITH A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WOULD BE AN RFP AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE MY MAIN POINTS. MAIN CONCERN IS GOING TO BE THOUGH THAT WE NOT JUST THINK ABOUT CARS. >> I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. JUST A QUESTION FOR MORE COMMENTS. ROGER, IS THERE A TIMELINE THAT WE WANT TO GET THIS MOBILITY STUDY FINISHED. >> YESTERDAY? >> SERIOUSLY. >> LET ME BACKTRACK A LITTLE BIT. ALMOST EVERYTHING WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE AT THE MEETING HAS BEEN DONE. AT VARIOUS TIMES WE JUST SPENT MONEY OR RECEIVED MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TALK ABOUT SAFE STREETS. IT WAS FOCUSED ENTIRELY ON HARBORSIDE DRIVE, MAYBE, AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? THAT WAS A $10 MILLION FIX. WE'VE APPLIED FOR THE MONEY TO DO THAT FIX, WHICH IS REALLY MORE JUST THE INTERSECTIONS. WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC MEETINGS. I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE THIS, IF THE INTEREST IS SO HIGH IN THE COMMUNITY, WHY AREN'T THEY SHOWING UP? WHY AREN'T THEY SHOWING UP TO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WERE HAPPEN? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING FOR EVERY TERMINAL WE'VE EVER OPENED UP, EVERY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WE'VE EVER DONE WITH THE INTERNAL ROADS. WE'VE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT EVERYONE AND NOBODY SHOWS UP. I SHOULDN'T SAY NOBODY SHOWS UP. THE INTERESTED PARTY SHOWS UP, BUT NOT FROM THIS POPULATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ANOTHER THING HERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCOPE. I'M DEFENDING WHAT WE'VE DONE BECAUSE WE SAY THESE THINGS AND WE NEED TO DO THIS, WE NEED TO DO THAT. BUT IT'S LIKE TO PORT HAS NOT HAD THE FORESIGHT, AND OUR BOARD HAS NOT HAD THE FORESIGHT TO DO THESE THINGS ALREADY. [00:40:01] ONE THING I WOULD MENTION IS YOU DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT SCOPE AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAME CONVERSATION JEFF HAD WITH DAVID. WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS AS WE'VE BROUGHT UP BEFORE, AND WE DID A STUDY WITH THE PARKS BOARD WHERE THEY HAVE A CELL PHONE SYSTEM THAT THEY CAN TRACK CELL PHONES TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING FROM. ON THE ISLAND, HOTELS, YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE SPOTS ALL ALONG THE SEA WALL WHERE WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE TO COME TO THE TERMINALS ARE LEAVING FROM OUT THERE. ANOTHER THING I'LL BRING UP IS MY UNDERSTANDING JUST RECENTLY IS THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORTS TALKING ABOUT SELLING CRUISE PARK. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN DO WE NEED TO BRING IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S SELLING PARKING. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE LOSING IS THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY'S NOT COLLECTING ON THAT. BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT WE'VE DONE A WHOLE LOT, AND WE'VE GOT MONEY FROM HGAC TO STUDY THE OVERHEAD HIGHWAY AND ALL THOSE THINGS WHICH SHOULD HELP TRAFFIC ALSO. BUT WHEN YOU ASKED YOU ABOUT THE TIMELINE, TO DO EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE'S A YEAR. IF YOU WANT TO GET THAT GRANULAR BECAUSE HOW DO YOU NOT DO TRAFFIC COUNTS AT INTERSECTIONS. WE'VE DONE THAT IN OUR TRAFFIC STUDIES. WE CAN TELL YOU WHERE EACH ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS ARE ON BROADWAY AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE GOING THROUGH THOSE INTERSECTIONS, THERE WERE COUNTERS PUT OUT THERE. WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN. THERE WERE COUNTERS THAT TOLD US WHERE ALL THE HOT SPOTS ARE. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ALMOST BEAT TO DEATH. EVERY TIME WE DO ANYTHING. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. THE CONNECTION BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND US, I PULLED TWO OF THE LARGEST RESTAURANT OWNERS IN GALVESTON LAST TWO WEEKS, AND THEY'RE SAYING, WE LOVE IT, MAN. WE'RE FULL, AND [OVERLAPPING] WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC DO TO YOU? IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING TO US. THEIR COMMENTS WERE THAT THE RETAIL OWNERS NEED TO BE OPEN. THIS WAS THE MAIN COM, NEED TO BE OPEN WHEN THE CREWS PASSENGER WAS HERE TO GET THE REVENUES FROM THAT. I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE ARE THEY SELLING WHAT PEOPLE WANT? HERE AGAIN, WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE Q AND I AND I DID HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH TRAY CLICK ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE THE STRAND MORE ATTRACTIVE AND MORE SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND MINGLE DOWN THERE AND THEN CROSS OVER. I AGREE CROSSING OVER IS A NIGHTMARE. BUT I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO PREACH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THIS. VIRTUALLY EVERY BIT OF EXPANSION THIS BOARD HAS APPROVED BASED ON INFORMATION THAT HAS COME FROM THESE DIFFERENT STUDIES. WE'RE TOUCHING EVERY ASPECT OF IT ALREADY. CERTAINLY THIS BOARD OR THIS GROUP WANTS TO HAVE ANOTHER GO AT IT, AND WE'LL DO THAT. I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS, MY FAVORITE LINE NOW IS, WHAT'S THE TRAFFIC STUDY GOING TO SHOW? THERE'S TRAFFIC. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY FROM TRAFFIC. I YESTERDAY WAS IT A MEETING WITH AT TEXTILE? ONE OF THE GUYS BROUGHT UP AND SAID WHERE IT'S VERY SIMILAR. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE TRUCKS OFF THE ROADS. THEN ONE OF THE STOP GENTLEMEN SAID, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE TRUCKS OFF THE ROAD, BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE THE TRUCKS OFF THE ROAD, AND PORT GET WIND POWERS IN HERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT OUT OF HERE, AND THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY. BUT THE BEST THING THE WAY TO DO IS YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THEM IN A SAFE MANNER. THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE'VE GOT HERE. THIS TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING AWAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIMULATION. WE'RE WORKING ON ANOTHER SIMULATION WHERE WE SHOW WHERE IF I HAVE 5,000 NEW PASSENGERS, AND THEY ALL COME AT OUR RATIO OF 6-7 CARS, ONE CAR FOR EVERY 6-7 PASSENGERS, [00:45:01] THEN WE PLUGGED THAT INTO THE MODEL AND WE SHOW THOSE CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE. WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN HERE ON A NEW SITUATION, BUT I GUESS I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX, BUT I THINK THAT I DEFEND MY STAFF BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS. WE'VE DONE IT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, AND WE ARE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT THIS. THERE'S NOT ONE STAFF ME TO THEN GO BY THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS. WE'RE READY. WHATEVER THIS GROUP DECIDES FOR US TO DO, WE'LL DO IT. YOU KNOW WE WILL. >> LET'S HEAR FROM THOSE THAT HAVEN'T SPOKEN UP YET. THAT'S SHEILA, AND THEN LET'S GO AROUND THOSE THAT HAVEN'T GIVEN INPUT YET. I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. >> SURE. THERE ARE 13 PEOPLE AROUND THIS TABLE AND EVERYONE BRINGS A LOT OF EXPERTISE, A LOT OF EXPERIENCES. WE ALL HAVE OUR GROUPS THAT WE BELONG TO. ONE PERSON HEARS THIS THING, ANOTHER PERSON HEARS THIS THING. THAT TO ME UNDERSCORES THAT AND I SAY THIS RESPECTFULLY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE HERE TO DECIDE SCOPE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE HERE TO DECIDE WHAT TO PAY OR WHAT THE TIMELINE SHOULD BE OR WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED. I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY. I THINK WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A MAJOR ACCIDENT, MAJOR CRISIS, MAJOR TRAGEDY, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GROWING. AS YOU SAY, WE HAVE BEEN STUDYING, BUT IT'S BEEN PIECEMEAL. IT'S BEEN OKAY, NOW IT'S THIS AREA. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THIS AREA AND LOOK AT THIS, BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT AND I'M NOT SAYING THE WHOLE ISLAND, BUT ALL OF THAT AREA THAT IS AFFECTED OF PEOPLE INBOUND AND OUTBOUND ON CRUISE DAYS, I THINK WE'VE REALLY GOT TO GET HELP IN THE FORM OF A CONSULTANT AND THEN HELP AND FORM OF EXPERTISE. I FOR ONE, CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE SCOPE OF THIS SHOULD LOOK LIKE. I LIVE IN THE WAY OF A CRUISE TERMINAL TRAFFIC RIGHT IN THE WAY UP IT, BUT I STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM UP THERE. I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONSIDER COMING TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN BRING IN SOME EXPERTS TO LOOK AT A FULL RANGE, NOT A PIECE, BUT A FULL RANGE OF WHAT WE NEED ON THIS ISLAND. CRUISE IS HUGE. IT'S A HUGE INDUSTRY. IT'S A GROWING INDUSTRY. IT DOVETAILS WITH TOURISM, WHICH IS HUGE. WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE FACTORS, AND WE NEED TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THIS. >> LET'S GO AROUND THOSE THAT HAD ERIC. DID YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON THIS? >> SURE. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS, GREAT THOUGHTS, AND CAN'T REALLY DISAGREE WITH MANY OF THEM AT ALL. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING TO THE TABLE TODAY WITH EVERYTHING, ALL THEIR CONCERNS. I DO AGREE WITH SHEILA THAT WE'RE NOT EXPERTS IN THIS, AND WE DO NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO DO THIS STUDY. I THINK THAT THE SMALLER THE SCOPE, THE BETTER THE RESULTS ARE FOR THE SPECIFIC AREAS, CHOP POINTS, THAT LAST MILE OF PERFORMANCE. I AGREE WITH THAT? I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE TWO STUDIES HERE. I THINK THAT THERE IS ONE DOWN CLOSER TO THE PORT. MUCH MORE GRANULAR, AND THEN THERE'S THE LARGER STUDY THAT MARIE TOUCHED ON THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF LIKE A CORRIDOR STUDY AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS THE ISLAND ON THESE MAIN THOROUGHFARES. BUT AS FAR AS THE PORT IS CONCERNED KEEP THAT SCOPE TIGHTER SO THAT WE CAN GET BETTER RESULTS, DETERMINE WHAT THOSE CHOKE POINTS ARE CLOSER TO THE PORT, SPECIFIC TO CRUISE TRAFFIC SO THAT WE CAN GET RESULTS QUICKER. I THINK THE BIGGER THE STUDY, THE LONGER IT'S GOING TO TAKE, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT IS. FOCUS ON THE PORT AND ITS IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREAS, FOCUS ON THOSE CHOKE POINTS AND WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE. IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A BROADER STUDY, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE CITY SHOULD ALSO CONTINUE TO CONSIDER BECAUSE I WEAR THE WARBURTON HAT AND I WEAR THE HAT OF I LIVE HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY, SO I APPRECIATE MARIE SENTIMENTS OF LET'S SOLVE THIS ISSUE FOR THE WHOLE ISLAND, BUT I THINK THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT STUDIES. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, SIR? >> I SPAN ON THIS. >> SHARON, I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU. >> I JUST MADE SOME NOTES AS I LISTENED TO EVERYONE. AN EXPERT WOULD SURELY BE GREAT FOR THE STUDY. [00:50:04] AS WE LOOK, I LIKE THE IDEA OF RENAMING THAT PROBABLY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOBILITY STUDY. BUT IN A WAY, IT DOES, BECAUSE I KNOW MIKE DEAN AND I WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MARDI GRAS PARADE, AND WE DISCUSSED IT, AND HE FINALLY MOVED IT A LITTLE BIT ACROSS 25TH STREET TO 27TH STREET. THAT AREA IS GROWING. WE NEED TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY RENAMING THAT. THE MOBILITY STUDY HAS TO CONSIDER WEST OF 25TH AS A COMMUNITY. THAT 33RD STREET, THAT IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL, THAT IS A WELL ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY, 70% OWNERSHIP. KIDS WALK, THEY CROSS. YOU HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY. WITHIN THAT, I AGREE THAT THAT MOBILITY INCLUDES THE PEDESTRIANS AS WELL. THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS AND THAT THIRD STOP, I WOULD MOVE IT CLOSER FURTHER WEST 37TH. >> I'VE BEEN WRITING DOWN, AND I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE HERE IN JUST A SECOND. WHAT I HEAR EVERYONE COMING TOWARDS A CONSENSUS ON. BEFORE I DO THAT, LET'S GET A FEW MORE WE'RE COMING UP TOWARDS THE END OF OUR TIME. LET'S GET A FEW MORE COMMENTS. READ THAT. >> I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT ROGERS SAID, BECAUSE I DO THE SAME THING AFTER BIG WEEKENDS OR WHATNOT. I CALLED THE THREE LARGEST RESTAURANT AND I TALKED TO THE HOTEL PEOPLE AS WELL. THEY ARE EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE, EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE. I THINK THE WAY YOU PUT IT, ARE DOING TWO STUDIES, AND A CONSULTANT IS GREAT IF THE FUNDS ARE THERE TO PAY FOR IT. BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, AND HAPPENS TO BE WE'RE COMING UP AT A GREAT TIME TO LOOK AT 90 DAYS. BECAUSE TRAFFIC COUNTS JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ONES YOU'RE DOING, BUT I KNOW IN THE CITY, THERE'S AT LEAST FIVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. ONE INCLUDES THE SEAWALL, ONE, 35, ONE STORT ROAD. WE COULD KIND OF PICK UP A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM THAT. I THINK THE CRUISE BUSINESS IS A GOOD BUSINESS. I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TWO QUATER STONES OF OUR CITY IS TOURISM AND THE PORT. THEN WE HAVE UTMB, AND YOU CAN'T DISCOUNT THAT WE HAVE 1,200 PEOPLE COMING IN FROM UTMB EVERY DAY AND LEAVING THE ISLAND. I THINK IT'S PORTS TO DO WITH THAT RESULT 90 DAY AND THEN TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, WHICH I DON'T THINK SHOULD BE THE BURDEN OF THE PORT. >> VICK, WE'RE GOING TO WIND THIS UP. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS WE'VE GOT TWO, I THINK RICHARD AND DAVID WANT TO AND BOB WANT TO GIVE SOME INPUT. THEN I'LL SUMMARIZE WHAT I HEAR AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU VICK FOR YOUR SUMMARIZATION TO GIVE US WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE. BOB QUICKLY. >> I'M GOING TO TAKE ON A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT SHEILA SAID. USING A EXPERT TO HELP US DEFINE THE SCOPE, I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. WHAT OUR JOB IS IS TO DEFINE THE PROBLEM. THEN HOW TO FIX THAT PROBLEM, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP WITH. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START. I ALSO LIKE RICHARD'S IDEA OF THE VISION FOR THAT AREA. THAT'S ALSO OUR JOB IS TO IDENTIFY THE VISION FOR WHAT WE WANT THAT AREA TO BE IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, IDENTIFY OUR VISION. WE DON'T HAVE THE SOLUTIONS. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED A CONSULTANT FOR. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE DEFINING THE PROBLEM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHO OUR STAKEHOLDERS ARE. THE PORT AS A STAKEHOLDER, THE CITY AS A STAKEHOLDER. THE PORT BY EXTENSION IS ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO DO BUSINESS AT THE PORT. EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO GET TO THE PORT TO DO THEIR BUSINESS, THE CRUISE SHIPS. AND FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, OUR INTEREST AS OUR STAKEHOLDERS. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS LIMITED AREA, ARE THE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. DOWNTOWN IS UNIQUE ON THE ISLAND AS A DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S GOT A MIXTURE OF PEOPLE THAT ALL WANT DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THEY'RE ALL IN ONE PLACE. YOU HAVE THE MERCHANTS THERE. YOU'VE GOT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THOSE MERCHANTS. YOU'VE GOT LOCALS WHO TRY TO GET THERE. YOU'VE GOT TOURISTS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET THERE. YOU'VE GOT CRUISERS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET THROUGH AND YOU GOT RESIDENTS, [00:55:02] PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE THERE. ALL OF THEM ALL OF THEM ARE ATTRACTED TO THAT AREA FOR ONE, BUT THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS. THOSE STAKEHOLDERS NEED TO BE AT THE TABLE. ALSO, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MARIE SAID, UTMB IS JUST RIGHT HERE NEXT TO EVEN IF WE MAKE A REDUCED AREA, UTV IS RIGHT THERE. THEY GOT 4,000 PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO WORK EVERY DAY. SOME OF THEM ON THE ISLAND, SOME THEM OFF THE ISLAND, BUT THEY'RE COMING RIGHT THROUGH THIS AREA. THEY HAVE TO BE AT THE TABLE, EVEN IF WE DON'T INCLUDE UTMB AND THE PROJECT AREA. THEN WHAT I THINK WILLIE SAID ABOUT BROADWAY IS IMPORTANT. AS PART OF THE STUDY BECAUSE IT'S A MAJOR QUARTER. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO MAKE THE STUDY GO ALL THE WAY FROM WATERFRONT TO BROADWAY. BUT ANYBODY LOOKING AT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK AT THE MAJOR QUARTERS THAT SERVICE THESE DIFFERENT AREAS. I THINK BROADWAY, BE IMPORTANT, BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THIS AND MAKE THIS AREA NOT SO BIG THAT WE CAN'T, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TOO LONG TO DO A BIGGER STUDY, IT'S GOING TO BE TO MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO A BIGGER STUDY. WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND FOCUS THIS AREA. BUT, IF ANY PLANNER KNOWS THIS, ANY ARCHITECT, PLAN OR ENGINEER KNOWS THIS, THE WORD PLANNED INDICATES AND IT MEANS WE'RE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE. WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, IN TERMS OF ESPECIALLY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AREA. I'LL JUST REPEAT WHAT I SAID EARLIER. POST OFFICE STREET TO THE NORTH IS FULLY DEVELOPED, BUSY, MATURE. IF WE GO AT LEAST ONE BLOCK FURTHER, THAT ANTICIPATING SOME GROWTH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE SAME CAN BE SAID FOR 14TH STREET, VERY BUSY AND IT'S MATURE. LET'S JUST GO ONE MORE STREET OR MAYBE EVEN THE TENTH. MAYBE EVEN THE TENTH WHERE THE CRUISE SHIP IS. MAYBE THAT'S THE EASTERN BOUNDARY WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING. BUT WHAT WE SHOULD I THINK A GOOD WAY TO START WOULD BE SOMEBODY SAID RICHARD SAID THE REAL ESTATE COMPANY, A REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE, GET TOGETHER ON THIS, FOCUS ON WHAT PROBLEMS WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. ENGAGE A CONSULTANT TO ASK THEM, WHAT IS OUR BEST PATH TO SOLVING THIS PROBLEM AND TRY TO CREATE AN RSP THAT WE CAN THE CITY COUNCIL CAN REVIEW. >> RICHARD, AND THEN I'LL MAKE IT QUIZ. >> YES, SIR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO COME AWAY FROM HERE WITH AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT, AT LEAST MAYBE WE'RE AT A POINT OF CONSENSUS THAT THIS WILL BE A JOINT STUDY STRUCTURED AS A JOINT STUDY BETWEEN THE PORT AND THE CITY. THAT'S ONE. THEN THE SECOND ONE IS WHEN I SAY JOINT, SPONSORSHIP, BASICALLY. THEN I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SECOND PART HAS TO DO WITH COST, AND I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT UTILIZING SOME HOTEL MOTEL TAXES IN THIS STUDY BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY ADDRESSING THE IMPACT OF TOURISM AND WOULD BE DESIGNED TO INCREASE THE AVAILABILITY TO THE AREA OF TOURIST. I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENT. I'M NOT GETTING DOWN TO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE FUNDING SOURCE. >> JUST ONE SECOND, PLEASE, MARIE. WHAT WE'LL DO? WE'LL TAKE JUST A COUPLE MORE THOUGHTS THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE VICK SUMMARIZE WHAT HE THINKS. I'LL GIVE MY SUMMARIZATIONS, AND THEN WE'LL GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF. NOW, WE'VE GOT ALEX AND MARIE REAL QUICKLY, PLEASE. >> WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS MAKE THIS MORE COMPLICATED AND IT HAS TO BE. I THINK WE'VE DELVED INTO, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. I'M SURE THAT THE COMPANIES THAT THE WARS BOARDS USED BEFORE EXPERTISE HAVE EXPERTISE IN IT. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO GO FIND, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE. EVEN IF IT'S JUST A TOUCH UP OR IDENTIFYING. MAYBE NOT PICKING THE SCOPE. THE LAST MILE OF THE LAST MILE IS A GOOD ONE, BUT, YOU STILL GOT TO GET THEM INTO, CHANNEL THEM IN TO GET TO THE LAST MILE. LET'S NOT MAKE THIS MORE COMPLICATED. IT HAS TO BE THE HOT TEXT THING. I'M NOT SURE. WE'RE GETTING A BIG ASK LATER TODAY WITH HOT TEXT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAYBE DO IN THE FUTURE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO WHAT THE PRIVATE PARTNERS WANT TO DO. LET'S NOT MAKE IT COMPLICATED. LET'S GET IT DONE A QUICK AND EFFICIENTLY BECAUSE TIME IS MONEY AND MONEY IS TIME. >> READ REAL QUICKLY. >> I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A WORD CHANGE. HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO COME HERE TO SPEND MONEY IS NOT A PROBLEM. IT'S MORE A STUDY OF ISSUES. [01:00:02] THE PROBLEM WOULD BE NOT HAVING PEOPLE HAVING AN ABUNDANCE OF PEOPLE. IT'S A BLESSING THAT WE KNOW THERE ARE ISSUES. IT'S STUDYING ISSUES. I WOULD LIKE US TO SAY ISSUES FIRST WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY? >> [INAUDIBLE] HAS HELD UP AND HAD IT NOT ANYTHING, BUT [INAUDIBLE] YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS. >> I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE JUST HOW HOW PRODUCTIVE AND GREAT OF A BOARD WE HAVE NOW PUT TOGETHER. I THANK ALL OF ALL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO ROGER AND ROGER, THE VISION AND THE INSIGHT AND PUTTING THOSE THINGS INTO ACTION ALONG THE WAY. I APPRECIATE ALL, AND, I'M ALSO KIND OF ON THE ASSUMPTION OF IT'S GREAT TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT'S ALSO BETTER FOR US TO KIND OF STAY OUT OF YOUR WAY AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ALL REPRESENTING US. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD ON THIS MOBILITY STUDY IS JUST LOOKING BEYOND JUST THE CRUISE LINES, LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE OF WHAT WE'RE BRINGING ON WITH CARGO AND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE GOT COMING WITH THE CONSTRUCTION WE'RE DOING FURTHER WEST ON THE DOCKS THERE. I THINK THAT'S NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO GIVE US A MIXTURES, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE WORKERS THAT, WE REALLY DEPEND ON THEM LIVING AND WORKING IN THIS COMMUNITY. SECOND, WITH OUR BRINGING ON DAVIES AND US NOT EVEN REALLY TO ME, BEING TO PUT BEING ABLE TO PUT A HANDLE ON WHAT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THE ADDITIONAL STAFF AND SUPPLYING THAT COMPANY IS GOING TO TAKE. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD, EVEN THOUGH A SMALL PART OF IT AT THAT PELICAN ISLAND BRIDGE, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE A BIG PART OF THE TRAFFIC COMING DOWN THE HARBOR SIDE. JUST THINGS LIKE THAT OF NOT JUST LOOKING DIRECTLY AT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY. BUT ALSO LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE GOT AHEAD OF OUR WAY AND BRINGING THAT ALL TOGETHER. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING SO HARD TOGETHER. I'M REALLY GLAD WE HAVE A GREAT MIXTURE OF MINDS. IT'S NOT JUST LIKE EVERYONE JUST DOES WHAT THEY SAY. IT JUST DOES WHAT IT'S A TEAM, AND IT'S A TEAM THAT I'VE SEEN WORK REALLY HARD TOGETHER. I SEE ALL IN THE COMMUNITY WORKING TOGETHER. IT'S NOT LIKE ALL ARE JUST THERE FOR TAKING UP SPACE. YOU'LL ACTUALLY, I THINK I LIKE EACH OTHER AND WORK TOGETHER WELL. >> I WAS VERY GOOD. >> REALLY JUST TWO SECONDS. ALL I WANT TO SAY IS I WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF FOR GOING FORWARD AND SEEKING OUT ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC, AND ROGERS, ALLUDED TO THAT PUBLIC COMMENT STAGES. ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT LIKE HE SAID, THESE PEOPLE REPRESENT THAT TOURISTS OR FEEDBACK THEY GET. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW THESE ISSUES. ALTHOUGH WE DON'T SEE IT AT THE MEETINGS WHEN WE SAY COME ON AND TALK TO US ABOUT IT, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. >> JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. VICK. >> I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU, SIR. >> MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I THINK WE'RE AT THE END OF HER TIME AND, WE HAVE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE WASPORD AND THE COUNCIL. >> THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PART OF IT. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. >> BEFORE THE WORTHWORD CLOSES, THEY'RE MEETING THIS MORNING. JUST SOME THOUGHTS I HAVE. I FEEL THERE'S A CONSENSUS AT THE TABLE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT A MOBILITY STUDY. IT NEEDS TO BE MULTI MODEL IN NATURE ON THAT. THERE NEEDS TO BE WE NEED TO LOOK AT PEDESTRIAN AS WELL AS VEHICULAR TYPE MOVEMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WHAT STARTED THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION, IS THE PORT REALLY SITTING OUT THERE AND BECOMING PROACTIVE TO ADDRESS NOT ONLY WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE NOW, BUT WHAT WE SEE COMING IN THE FUTURE. THAT THERE'S A WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON BOUNDARIES THAT ARE MANAGEABLE TO GIVE US THE RESULTS THAT WE WANT FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD THIS MORNING, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOMEWHERE 10- 23RD, AND ALSO FROM THE WATERFRONT UP TO CHURCH. I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS A THOUGHT TO AT THE TABLE THAT WE MAY WANT TO HAVE A BROADER STUDY OF THE ENTIRE ISLAND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AS A SEPARATE TYPE STUDY TO LOOK AT A LARGER STUDY COMING UP. THERE WAS MENTION ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING AT THE PORT LEVEL, HAVING THIS RUN THROUGH THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE TO POSSIBLY VET AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP MORE TO THE PORT AND TO THEIR STAFF TO DETERMINE THAT. [01:05:03] SAYING ALL THAT, I THINK THAT WE COULD GIVE DIRECTION TO OUR STAFF, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, TO WORK WITH PARK BOARD STAFF, TO COME UP WITH SOME THOUGHTS AROUND THE IDEAS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS MORNING AND COME BACK WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, WHAT THEY THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TOPIC. IS THERE ANY OTHER DID YOU MEAN PARK BOARD OR WARS BOARD OR BOTH? I'M SORRY, I GET WARS BOARD. YES, PARK BOARD. THAT THREW ME. THANK YOU, VICK. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY. YOU CAN SEE IF COUNSEL, I'M GOING TO PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK. LOOK AT WHAT WE APPOINTED TO THIS WARS BOARD. WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE BEST MINDS IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW WORKING ON THIS WARS BOARD. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I BELIEVE UNLESS WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, WHICH I SEE NONE, THE WARS BOARD MEETING IS ADJOURNED. >> THANK YOU, VICK. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS AND THOSE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE. WE ARE NOW BACK INTO OUR MEETING, OUR WORKSHOP FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13. IT'S 10:13 A.M. I WANT TO THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR PATIENCE THIS MORNING. WE WERE GOING TO START AROUND 10 RUNNING A LITTLE BEHIND, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3A, 3B, PLEASE, MA'AM. >> ITEM 3B. CLARIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. >> VERY GOOD. LET'S TURN TO MARIE ROB, MARIE. [3.B Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (1 Hour)] >> GO DOWN THE LINE, MAYOR. COME ON. PICK. HERE WE GO, ALEX. 11L THROUGH R. >> 118 BUNCH. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> YES, SIR. >> HELLO. >> ANDERSON. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO SIT CLOSER TO HIM. >> IF YOU DON'T I THINK BRIAN IS SCARED. >> WE JUST KID [LAUGHTER] >> IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF, PLEASE, MA'AM. >> ANDERSON, THE DIRECTOR OF GRANTS AND HOUSING. >> GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. >> THANK YOU. >> I'M SURE YOU'RE HAPPY THE SHUTDOWNS OVER. >> I'M READY FOR MY MONEY. >> GOOD. A LOT OF THESE ARE FOR. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM JUST BRIEFLY FOR FOLKS. >> THIS PROGRAM IS THE HOME ARP PROGRAM. WE WERE GIVEN FUNDS BACK IN 2021. WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2023, WE HAD TO WRITE AN ACTION PLAN SHOWING HOW WE WERE GOING TO BE USING THE MONEY. IT IS TO HELP HOMELESSNESS IN GALVESTON. WE SENT OUT APPLICATIONS TO ORGANIZATIONS TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD HELP US SIR. WE'RE RUNNING A TBRA PROGRAM THROUGH THIS THROUGH MY DEPARTMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR 11 THROUGH L THROUGH R WILL BE OUR PUBLIC SERVICES. THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION. THEY'RE PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH, THEY'RE PROVIDING CASE MANAGEMENT, JOB SKILLS. IN MY DREAM WORLD, IT'S TO TAKE A HOMELESS PERSON. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO PAY RENT FOR A YEAR. THEY'RE GOING TO GET CASE MANAGEMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET JOB SKILLS, AND IN A YEAR, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT. THAT'S MY DREAM WORLD. I KNOW THAT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S THE GOAL OF THIS FUNDING. WE'RE A ONE TIME FUNDING. SO WE GOT $894,298. >> WE'RE TAKING 133,000 OUT OF THAT FOR ADMIN FOR MY DEPARTMENT TO RUN THE PROGRAMS. THEN WE LET $509,282 AND 90 CENTS GO FOR PUBLIC SERVICES. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE HOUSING SITUATION? [OVERLAPPING] YOU SAID IT TAKES THEM OFF THE STREET, DOES THAT NOT INCLUDE HOUSING, OR IS THAT MAINLY JUST JOB SKILLS? >> THE TBRA WILL BE THE HOUSING PORTION, WHICH WILL BE MY DEPARTMENT. THAT WILL PUT THEM IN AN APARTMENT, OR HOUSE, ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND THAT WILL ACCEPT OUR COUPONS. WE TRY TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SECTION 8, SO WE CALL OUR COUPONS VERSUS VOUCHERS. A LOT OF HOME LANDLORDS THEY HEAR THE SECTION 8 STIGMA, AND SO THEY DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CLIENTS TELL THEM IT'S THROUGH THE CITY, AND IT'S COUPONS, IT'S NOT VOUCHERS, AND SO WE ACTUALLY PAY THEIR MONTH. [01:10:01] RIGHT NOW, WE RUN A TBRA PROGRAM JUST OUT OF OUR HOME PROGRAM IN GENERAL. WE PAY A PORTION OF THEIR RENT. THIS ONE, WE WILL PAY ALL OF THEIR RENT IN THIS PROGRAM. >> IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS FOR OFF-ISLAND HOUSING VERSUS ON-ISLAND? >> IT HAS TO BE ON ISLAND HOUSING. >> IT'S WITHIN THE CITY OF GALVESTON GRANT? >> YES, SIR. >> I'LL LET OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ASK QUESTIONS TOO BECAUSE THIS IS SOME. >> BOB AND THEN MARIE. I WOULD MAKE A COMMENT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I'VE BEEN GETTING REQUESTS FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS FOR THIS FUNDING, AND I'VE BEEN REFERRING THEM OVER TO REBECCA. REBECCA, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, BOB. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR VISION. >> I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT GLAD TO HEAR THAT. >> WAS THERE A LOCAL MATCH REQUIRED FOR THIS GRANT? >> NO, SIR. >> IT RUNS FOR A YEAR, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. EACH ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS ARE FOR ONE YEAR. THEN IN A YEAR, SO THEY HAVE A YEAR TO SPEND THEIR FUNDS. IF THEY DO NOT SPEND ALL OF THE FUNDS IN A YEAR, WE DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM. IT'S ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS. THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. IT'S NOT LIKE I'M GOING TO HAND SOMEBODY $166,000. THEY'RE GOING TO GET REIMBURSED. BUT IF THEY DON'T SPEND ALL OF THEIR FUNDS WITHIN THAT YEAR, THE MONEY WILL COME BACK, AND THEN WE WILL DO THIS PROCESS AGAIN. I HAVE MY PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE END DATE IS 2030. >> WE'LL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AGAIN IN A YEAR? >> NO, SIR. THIS WAS A ONE-TIME STIMULUS. >> ONE TIME. THE MONEY THAT DOES NOT GET SPENT NEXT YEAR, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY MONEY ADDED TO THAT. >> THIS WAS ALL COVID MONEY. >> ONE MORE LAST QUESTION. HOW ARE WE GOING TO EVALUATE THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM IN THE END? IN OTHER WORDS, GET SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW SUCCESSFUL THIS WAS. >> THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT MONTHLY REPORTS WHEN THEY DO THEIR REIMBURSEMENTS. THEY HAVE TO SERVE FOUR QUALIFYING POPULATIONS. ONE IS AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS. THE OTHER ONE IS FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, OUR HATE RATE SITUATIONS, AND THE OTHER ONE IS VETERANS, ELDERLY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE THE FOUR POPULATIONS. WE WILL GET MONTHLY REPORTS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO SEND INTO HUD. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE HAVE A SYSTEM CALLED IDIS, WHICH IS A HUD SYSTEM THAT WE INPUT EVERYTHING INTO, AND THAT'S WHERE I DRAW ALL OF MY MONEY DOWN FROM, AND THAT WILL SHOW US OUR SUCCESS. >> I'D BE REALLY GREAT TO GET A REPORT ON THAT PROJECT AS IT RUN COURSE. AGAIN, ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT WHATEVER MONEY IS LEFT OVER. WHAT RESTRICTIONS OR WOULD THERE BE ON THAT MONEY, AND HOW WOULD IT BE SPENT? >> WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IT'LL COME STAYS WITH ME. THEN I'LL JUST DO THE SAME PROCESS THAT I DID THIS YEAR, WHICH IS APPLICATIONS. EVERYBODY CAN APPLY. I'LL TELL THEM HOW MUCH WE HAVE, AND THEN EVERYONE CAN APPLY. WE WILL GRADE THE APPLICATIONS. WE HAD A SCORING, SO THAT'S HOW THIS WAS DONE. WE HAD TO MAKE AN 80 OR ABOVE, AND I HAD THREE. I WAS MYSELF AND TWO OF MY STAFF MEMBERS THAT SCORED. THE SCORING CRITERIA IS HOW IT WAS DETERMINED, AND THAT'S HOW IT'LL BE DONE THE NEXT TIME IF THERE'S ANY FUNDS LEFT. >> SAME PROGRAM JUST NOT AS MUCH MONEY. >> YES, SIR. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> MARIE, HAD A QUESTION. >> I DID. I KNOW ON A COUPLE OF THE PARTNER WAS SALVATION ARMY. WHAT I SEE OR WHAT I OBSERVE, OR CALLS THAT I GET WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING HOMELESS, A LOT OF THEM NEVER INTERACT WITH SALVATION ARMY. YOUR BIGGEST CONCENTRATIONS TEND TO BE AROUND 61ST STREET, WALMART, BUS STATIONS ALONG THE SEAWALL. STEWART ROAD, BOTH SIDES. THEN YOU GO DOWN THE OTHER END OF THE ISLAND BEHIND THE SEAWALL, WHERE THAT GAS STATION IS, ALL THESE DIFFERENT ABANDONED LOTS OR MD AREAS. GENERALLY, THOSE FOLKS DO NOT INTERACT WITH SALVATION ARMY. HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? >> WELL, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE OFF TOPIC. THIS IS FOR THE GRANT. [OVERLAPPING] DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GRANT TO THE SALVATION [OVERLAPPING]? >> IS HOW WE CHOSE THE PARTNERS. >> WE DID AN APPLICATION PROCESS. WE TOLD HUD HOW WE WANTED TO SPEND THE MONEY. IT WAS SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, TBRA. >> CAN YOU TBRA [OVERLAPPING]. >> GALVESTON-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE? SORRY. [OVERLAPPING]. [01:15:01] >> NO, I KNOW IT TERMS OF THE ACRONYM VERY QUICKLY. >> WE DID AN APPLICATION PROCESS. EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY. IT WAS POSTED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND EVERYTHING. THEN WE DID OUR SCORING. WHOEVER WANTED. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD SALVATION ARMY. THEY ACTUALLY PUT IN FOR FOUR APPLICATIONS, BECAUSE THERE WAS FOUR THINGS THAT THEY COULD DO. THEY COULD DO MENTAL HEALTH. THEY COULD DO TRANSPORTATION, THEY COULD DO CASE MANAGEMENT, AND THEY COULD DO JOB SKILLS AND LIFE SKILLS. ST. VINCENT'S PUT IN FOR TWO, THEY ONLY GOT ONE. RCC PUT IN, THEY DIDN'T GET ANY, IT WAS JUST BASED UPON THE CRITERIA THAT HUD HAD OUTLINED FOR US TO SCORE BY. THAT'S HOW SALVATION ARMY GOT THE THREE. ENDEAVORS. THEY DID NOT APPLY, BUT THEY DID ATTEND THE MEETING. FAMILY SERVICES APPLIED? THE CHOSEN ONES APPLIED. IT WAS JUST BASED UPON WHOEVER APPLIED. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 10 APPLICATIONS THAT CAME IN, AND THE SCORING PICKED THE ONES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. [OVERLAPPING] >> THE PROBLEM IS THAT REVIEWS AND WHATNOT, RCC WOULD BE THE BIGGEST RESOURCE FOR THAT. WHO'S GOING TO BE THE GO-BETWEEN? >> THEY DIDN'T SCORE HIGH ENOUGH, AND THEY HAVE TO SCORE. FEDERAL FUNDS I CAN'T JUST SAY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY. THEY WON'T LET ME DO THAT. I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT GO TO THE SALVATION ARMY. IF THEY NEED TBRA EVEN ON MY REGULAR TBRA PROGRAM, EVERY SINGLE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY ON THE ISLAND REFERS TO US. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GET ANY SERVICE. THEY CAN WALK INTO DAILY BREAD, AND THIS IS WHAT WE TELL THEM ALL THE TIME. THEY CAN WALK INTO DAILY BREAD, THEY CAN WALK INTO THE ST. VINCENT. THEY CAN WALK INTO SALVATION ARMY AND SAY, I WANT TO BE REFERRED TO THE TBRA PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON. THEY WILL SEND THEM A REFERRAL, OR THEY'LL WRITE OUT A REFERRAL. THEY'LL SEND IT OVER TO US ON THEIR COVER LETTER, AND WE ADD THEM TO OUR WAITING LIST. >> RESOURCE AND CRISIS CENTER. >> THEY DO REFER TO US. YES. RCC, GCC, OUR DAILY BREAD, ST. VINCENT SALVATION ARMY, THE CHOSEN ONES, GCCA HAS JUST BEEN ADDED, WHICH IS GULF COAST COMMUNITY ACTION COUNCIL. THEY'VE JUST BEEN ADDED. ANY SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY THAT CALLS US THAT WANTS TO BE ADDED TO OUR LIST, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADD THEM. >> KAREN. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M GLAD THIS GRANT HAPPENED KUDOS TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO SERVE THIS POPULATION. >> YES. >> IT'S A VERY SPECIAL POPULATION. I JUST WANT TO SAY THOSE ORGANIZATIONS JUST GO AND DO IT BECAUSE IT'S CHALLENGING. >> IT'S VERY CHALLENGING. YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> WHAT HAVE YOU ESTABLISHED AS A COST PER INDIVIDUAL? YOU HAD MENTIONED HOUSING, I WOULD TAKE IT, HOUSING, FOOD, UTILITIES, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH, FORCE SUPPORT, AND TRANSPORTATION. >> WE DON'T HAVE, PER SE, A COST PER INDIVIDUAL. THEY GOT A LUMP SUM. HOUSING WITHIN THE CITY OF GALVESTON, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVEN'T SEEN REALLY AN APARTMENT UNDER $100 FOR A ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT ON THE ISLAND. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE ROUGHLY PAY $1,200 A MONTH FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON OUR TBRA PROGRAM. >> YOU GOT, YOU SAID, JUST OVER 500,000? >> THAT WE GAVE AWAY. >> WHAT IS LEFT? >> RIGHT NOW, THERE IS 251,000 THAT WILL GO TO OUR TBRA PROGRAM. EACH ORGANIZATION GOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT. SALVATION ARMY GOT ONE OF THEIR GRANTS WAS [OVERLAPPING] TWO WAS 40, ONE WAS 45. ST. VINCENT'S GOT 25,000. FOR THIS SALVATION ARMY THEY'RE GOING TO USE FOR THEIR TRANSPORTATION. THEY'RE GOING TO BUY OUR BEST TOKENS FOR THE CITY FOR THE TROLLEYS. THEY'RE ALSO WE CAN PAY FOR LIKE UBERS IF THEY NEED TO GO OFF THE ISLAND. THEY CAN USE THEIR 40,000 TO PAY FOR THOSE BUS TOKENS, UBER RIDES, TAXIS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ST. VINCENT'S. THEY GOT 25,000 FOR TRANSPORTATION, BUT THAT'S TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR BUS DRIVER, THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE VAN, I'M SURE YOU HAVE, THAT GOES AROUND AND PICKS UP AND TAKES THEM TO APPOINTMENTS. A LOT OF THEM, SINCE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY HERE ON THE ISLAND, [01:20:02] THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OFF THE ISLAND. [OVERLAPPING] >> THE CHALLENGE. >> IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE. ST. VINCENT WILL HELP SUBSIDIZE THAT BUS DRIVER FOR THAT, AS WELL AS THE SALVATION ARMY IS GOING TO USE THE TOKENS AND THE TAXIS AND THE UBERS FOR. >> THOSE ARE ALL PROGRAM SUPPORT COSTS? >> YES. >> THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT $500,000 SPENT WENT TO INDIVIDUALS FOR THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE. WHERE DOES THAT ACTUALLY GET PAID OUT? >> THE 506,000. IT'S GOING TO BE PAID TO EACH ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS. OUT OF THAT 506,000, 25,000 IS GOING TO BE PAID TO ST. VINCENT'S HOUSE. OUT OF THAT 506,000, 40,000 IS GOING TO BE PAID TO SALVATION ARMY, 175,000 CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS ANOTHER ONE, 175,000 IS GOING TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO DO JOB SKILLS. THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAVE CLASSES THAT THEY CAN TAKE TO GET THEIR GED. THEY HAVE CLASSES LIKE THE CHOSEN ONES IS WORKING WITH THE GALVESTON COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO DO THE GEDS IF THEY CAN'T DO THEM LIKE AT THE LITTLE CHURCHES AND STUFF. IF THE CHOSEN ONE HAS OVER HERE, RIGHT OVER HERE, ON FALL STREET BY MY OFFICE. >> I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF IT, BUT I KNOW. >> WE'LL JUST SAY WELDING, THEY CAN PAY FOR WELDING. THEY CAN TEACH THEM A SKILL. THAT'S WHERE THE $175,000 OR WHICHEVER AMOUNT THEY GOT FOR WHATEVER CATEGORY THEY GOT WILL BE SPIT. >> I GET ALL THAT. I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL EXPENSE OF TAKING AN INDIVIDUAL OFF THE STREET, PUTTING THEM IN THE HOME, AND HAVING A COUPON PAY FOR THAT RENT. I'M NOT HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS HOW MANY PEOPLE? >> HOW MANY PEOPLE IS THAT GOING TO SERVE? THAT'S BASED UPON WHERE THEY RENT. WE HAVE SOME OF THESE LITTLE BOARDING HOUSES RIGHT HERE ON BROADWAY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST A LITTLE ONE-ROOM, NOT EVEN AN EFFICIENCY APARTMENT, IT'S JUST A LITTLE ROOM THAT HAS A HOT PLATE AND A LITTLE REFRIGERATOR, THEY CHARGE $894. IF WE HAVE ONE PERSON, WE'LL JUST SAY ONE PERSON. IF WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT SPENDS $1,000 EACH MONTH, SO THAT'S $12,000 OUT OF MY 250,000. >> I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. I ACTUALLY PUT 2000 A MONTH. >> PUT 251,000, AND IF YOU'RE USING 2000 A MONTH, I HAVE A CALCULATOR. >> I GET IT. >> BUT THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM. >> THAT'S FOR FIVE YEARS? >> NOT FOR FIVE YEARS. >> IT JUST FIVE YEARS WE HAVE FIVE YEARS SUSPENDED? >> YES, SIR. THE CITY HAS A PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE THAT ENDS 2030. IF WE KEEP ROLLING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, SAY THE CHOSEN ONES DON'T SPEND ALL OF THEIR MONEY. COME NEXT YEAR, WE RE-ALLOCATE AND WE GIVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, OR WHOEVER, THEN I HAVE UNTIL 2030 TO GET ALL OF THAT MONEY EXPENDED AND ALL OF MY REPORTS FINALIZED AND SENT INTO HUD. BUT EACH ORGANIZATION [OVERLAPPING] HAS ONE YEAR TO SPEND THEIR GRANT. >> I GET ALL THAT. AT THE MOMENT, HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE UTILIZING THE RENTAL COUPON A MONTH? >> FOR THIS PROGRAM. >> AT THE MOMENT. >> AT THIS MOMENT, NO. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T STARTED YET. [OVERLAPPING] UNDER OUR HOME PROGRAM, WE HAVE YEAR-TO-DATE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, WE PUT IT OUT EVERY MONTH. WE HAD 100 AND I THINK 64. [OVERLAPPING] >> SOME OF THOSE ARE JUST ONE MONTH. [OVERLAPPING]. >> SOME ARE WHOLE YEARS. >> WHOLE YEARS. >> YES, SIR. >> BUT THEN SOME OF THEM THOUGH WE DO PARTIALS IN THERE. [OVERLAPPING] >> YES. THOSE ARE ONLY PARTIAL. [OVERLAPPING] FOR THE YEAR, WE HAVE PAID 164 INDIVIDUAL OR FAMILIES RENT FOR THIS YEAR UNDER OUR HOME PROGRAM, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROGRAM THAN THIS. >> IS THAT ALL GRANT-FUNDED? >> YES. >> 100%. >> 100% THERE'S NO CITY MONEY IN THIS AT ALL. >> YES, SIR. >> IT SHRINKS EVERY YEAR? >> YES. >> IT'S BEEN ON THE DECLINE SINCE, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE 15 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS MULTI MILLIONS INTO THIS PROGRAM, AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO ALMOST LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLARS. >> I THINK I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE GOING ON THREE YEARS, AND LOOKING BACK AT RECORDS, I HAVE ME AND THREE OTHER PEOPLE THAT RUN THREE FEDERAL PROGRAMS OR TWO FEDERAL PROGRAMS PLUS THE LITTLE PROGRAMS THAT THEY GIVE US, LIKE THIS OR COVID. BUT BEFORE THAT, THERE WAS 15-20 PEOPLE IN MY DEPARTMENT BEFORE I GOT HERE. [01:25:02] WE HAD INSPECTORS, WE DID HOUSING REHAB. THAT'S BRIAN SAYS, IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS. BUT WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW EVERY YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE CUT ROUGHLY 5%. >> THE GOAL IS TO EVENTUALLY JUST GO AWAY. >> YES. THANKFULLY, THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL DIDN'T CHOP IT. BUT IT WAS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK FOR THE 2026 OR 20 WERE STILL IN 2025 ALLEGATIONS. IT WAS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK TO DO AWAY WITH CDBG AND HOME ALTOGETHER. THANKFULLY, IT WASN'T. BECAUSE WE FUND OTHER PROGRAMS. >> UNDER OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. UNDER CDBG, LIKE I FUND THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT, SOME OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. >> DIRECT PROGRAMS AT THE [OVERLAPPING] >> AT THE PARK. IF IT GOES AWAY, IT DOESN'T JUST AFFECT ME AND MY THREE STAFF, IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE CITY. >> SAY THAT AGAIN? YOU ADMINISTRATE CDBG FOR SPENDING MONEY ON PARKS AND WHAT ELSE? >> PARKS, CODE ENFORCEMENT. >> YOU'RE USING CODE ENFORCEMENT IN LOW INCOME AREAS. >> INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'RE FIXING IT BY THE FIRE TRUCK. >> MAYOR, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF TOPIC FROM THE AGENDA, I'M SORRY BUT A LITTLE BIT OFF TOPIC. >> WE'RE BACK TO JUST THE GRANTS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, BO? >> NO. >> IT'S ALL IN THE BUDGET, BO, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. >> A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN, BUT IT'S ALL OUTLINED IN THE BUDGET. >> I HAVEN'T SEEN ME. I'M ACROSS THE STREET. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS FOR DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US. >> ALEX. >> I'VE GOT MY QUESTIONS, I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR, MAY I GO NEXT? I NEED TO LEAVE AT 10:00. IT'S JUST ONE, IT'S THE GPD 11T. >> 11T. >> THE DOG? >> THE DOG IS A BIG THANK YOU. ALSO ON THE 11T, WHERE IT SAYS THREE MONTHS. IS THAT A MISTAKE ON THE CONTRACT DETAILS? >> FOR SIPIRION? >> THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FINISH IT UNTIL WE GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR. >> CORRECT. UNTIL WE GET TO [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'RE TRANSITIONING TO A NEW SYSTEM SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BUY AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO GET US TO A TRANSITION TO THE MOTOROLA SYSTEM. >> IN YOUR UPGRADES, DOES IT INTEGRATE WITH ALL THE FIGHTER CAMS AND ALL THE OTHER COURT STUFF AND EVERYTHING? >> SHOULD BE SEAMLESS BY THE TIME IT'S IMPLEMENTED AND WE'RE UP AND RUNNING. YES, MA'AM. >> THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH IT. THE UPGRADES YOU FEEL ARE AWESOME. >> YES, I THINK THAT IT IS THE PREMIER RMS SYSTEM FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENT. >> IT IS A GENEROUS DONATION FOR THEM. I VOLUNTEERED WINSTON AS A PASTRY SNIFFING DOG, BUT THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T NEED ONE SO THEY HAVE [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] >> POLICE FOUNDATION CAME THROUGH IN A BIG WAY AND WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE THERE. FANTASTIC. >> TELL THEM THANK YOU MUCH, AND THAT WAS IT. >> THANK YOU. >> WHAT DOG IS IT? >> IT'LL BE [INAUDIBLE] >> THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH STANDARD. >> ANYTHING ELSE, SHARON, THAT YOU HAVE? >> NO. >> YOU'RE GOING TO HEAD OUT FOR JUST A SHORT TIME? >> YES. >> WE'LL WELCOME YOU BACK WHEN YOU COME BACK. >> WELL, THANK YOU MUCH. >> MARIA. >> I JUST WANTED TO ASK BRIAN, IS THAT HOW YOU FIND YOUR SNACKS? [LAUGHTER] >> HE FINDS THEM, WE DON'T GET THEM, SO YES. >> ANYWAY, I HAVE [INAUDIBLE] FIRST ONE BEING 10B. YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF? >> YEAH. KYLE CLARK, COASTAL RESOURCES MANAGER. TIME IS LONG TODAY. [LAUGHTER] >> IT'S LONELY DOWN HERE. >> I'LL SIT BESIDE YOU. WE DON'T BITE. >> WE ARE TAKING A CERTAIN SECTION OF THE BEACH AND ADDING MORE PARKING ON THE BEACH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM THAT YOU HAD IN YOUR PACKET, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THROW THAT UP. >> WHICH ACCESS POINT? WELL, THERE'S TWO OF THEM AND THERE'S TWO. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> PARK PART TOO? YES, MA'AM. WE UPDATED THAT ACCESS POINT WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR LAST AMENDMENT, WE UPDATED THE PARKING LOT, AND WHEN WE UPDATED THE PARKING LOT, WE MOVED THE BOTTLERS BACK TO KEEP ALL OF THE TRAFFIC, [01:30:04] ALL THE VEHICLES OFF OF ABOUT 300 FEET RIGHT IN FRONT OF POCKET PARK TREE. WE HAD THOSE BOTTLES CLOSED THIS SUMMER, JUST THE WAY THE TRAFFIC COMES IN AND THEN GOES OFF TO THE RIDE AND COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE. TALKING TO THE PARK TO OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, WE JUST FOR SAFETY AND MANEUVERABILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SAND GETS SOFT DOWN THERE. THAT'S WHY WE JUST WANTED TO ADD THE 100 FEE JUST FOR PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT. WE'RE NOT OPENING IT ALL THE WAY BACK UP, BUT JUST PEOPLE USING THAT ACCESS POINT. >> WELL, WE HAVE A HUGE PARKING LOT THERE AND WE HAVE 136 SPOTS AND THEN PARKING. >> NO, IN THAT PARKING LOT, WE HAVE 273 PARKING. >> TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE. WHY WOULDN'T WE TRY TO KEEP IT ALL CONTAINED TO A PARKING LOT? >> WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE DID THIS SUMMER, BUT JUST WHEN SAND GOT SOFT, WE HAD [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THERE, PEOPLE TRY TO COME IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA. IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL ON THAT ACCESS POINT. >> I GUESS, SINCE I'VE NEVER BEEN SHY ABOUT THE FACT THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL CARS OFF THE BEACH FOR THE DAMAGE THAT IT DOES TO NATURE. WHY COULDN'T WE USE THE REST OF THE PARKING LOT AND JUST PARK THE CARS THERE? >> TAKE IT OFF OF THAT ENTIRE SECTION. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT ACCESS POINT IS ACCESS POINT 13. IT'S FOR THE POCKET PART 3, AND THEN THE ON BEACH FOR ACCESS POINT 14. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD ON BEACH PARKING ACCESS FOR ACCESS POINT 14. IF WE TAKE THAT THAT OUT, WE WILL HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES UP INTO THAT PARKING LOT. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM OF THE PARK ITSELF, IT WOULD BE AREAS THAT YOU COULD ADD IT TO. >> WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO AMEND IT IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND REMOVE THE [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU'RE REMOVING THE CARS FROM THE RIGHT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BEACH FROM THE RIGHT SIDE AND MOVING TO THE LEFT SIDE. >> WE'RE SHRINKING. >> YOU'RE SHRINKING YET? >> YES, MA'AM. >> BUT I THINK OUR ULTIMATE GOAL WOULD BE TO COMPLETELY SHRINK IT SINCE WE HAVE THE AREA AVAILABLE TO PARK. >> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT DEFINITELY IN THE FUTURE. IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, GETTING ALL THE CARS OFF THE BEACH. BUT WE CAN. >> A QUESTION ON THAT TOPIC. THE PORTION OF IT IS DOWN THERE AT STEWART BEACH, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. WE WERE REQUESTING TO EXTEND BY 1,050 FEET TO THE RESTRICTED USE AREA. THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT OWNS THAT PROPERTY IS LOOKING AT DEVELOPING IT. ABOUT HALF TO THREE QUARTERS OF HIS PROPERTY ORDERS THE CURRENT RESTRICTED USE AREA. HE CAME TO US AND THEY REQUESTED TO EXTEND IT. THEY HAVE COME IN WITH SOME DOOM WALKOVERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE RESTRICTED USE AREA CAN BE ACCESSED BY VEHICLES, GOLF CARTS, FOR FISHERMEN, ADA. HE JUST WANTED TO OPEN THAT UP. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO ACCESS THAT TO FISH OR ADA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT WOULDN'T JUST BE A QUARTER OF ITS PROPERTY THEY COULDN'T ACCESS AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY REQUESTED TO EXTEND IT OUT. >> ALONG THAT SAME TOPICS THAT EXPANDED RU AT STEWART BEACH, SEEMS LIKE IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT. [LAUGHTER] HERE IT IS AGAIN. I GUESS THE PROPERTY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE MARGARITA BILL PROPERTY. >> THEY WANT TO EXPEND IT, BUT THERE'S STILL ONLY ONE VEHICULAR ACCESS IS GOING TO REMAIN AT THE STEWART BEACH RIGHT HERE.T >> THAT'S HOW YOU GET THERE. >> THAT'S THE ONLY WAY. >> ARE THEY GOING TO BUILD THE VEHICULAR WALK OR THE DOOM WALKER FOR THE GOLF CART, SIR. I THINK THE PRESERVE AT GRAND BEACH. >> PRESERVE? YOU CAN ACCESS THAT THROUGH THE PRESERVE FOR GOLF CARTS. THE DOOM WALKERS THEY HAVE TO US, COULD YOU ACCOMMODATE GOLF CARTS? BUT THE MAIN VEHICULAR ACCESS FOR AUTOMOBILES WOULD BE STILL TO STEWARDS. >> WHY THE CHANGE, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING, IF THAT WAS A PART OF A CONVERSATION? BECAUSE IT WAS A BIG HOOP TO JUMP THROUGH TO GET IT DONE TO BEGIN WITH, AND WE'RE JUST GOING BACK TO ORIGINALLY WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. >> WHY THE CHANGE. >> WHAT'S THE CHANGE? >> WHY THEY WANT TO GET THERE? [01:35:01] >> AGAIN? >> I CAN PARAPHRASE IT. THEY CLOSED IT. THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO ALLOW GOLF CARTS ON THE BEACH. GOLF CARTS OR VEHICLES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. >> THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO BEGIN WITH, AND NOW THEY'RE ALLOWED. >> TO FISH AND TO ADA. BUT THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED TO JUST, LIKE I SAID, [INAUDIBLE] PROPERTY WOULDN'T BE. >> WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE ON VEHICULAR ACCESS. I DON'T MEAN TO DISCRIMINATE ADA WISE, I MEAN DISCRIMINATE GOLF CART. >> NO, STATE OF TEXAS BY VEHICLES. >> THAT WAS THE STATE LAW. >> THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE SAID VEHICLES WILL INCLUDE GOLF CARTS. ANY PLACE THAT WE HAVE VEHICULAR RESTRICTIONS, THE ONLY VEHICLE THE ONLY THING THAT CAN ACCESS THAT IS A GOLF CART FOR ADA. ON THE WEST END, WE HAVE NO VEHICLE, ACCESS ONLY [OVERLAPPING] >> WORKS ONE WAY, BUT NOT THE OTHER. YOU CAN DRIVE A GOLF CART ON A NON-VEHICULAR BEACH, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A GOLF CART ONLY BEACH. >> IF YOU'RE HANDICAPPED. >> IF YOU'RE HANDICAPPED. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. IF YOU'RE HANDICAPPED AND PROPERLY MARKED AS HANDICAPPED. >> GOLF CARTS WILL HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE EITHER HANDICAPPED OR THEY'RE GOING FISHING. >> YES, SIR. >> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LAUNCHING A BOAT, I DON'T THINK. >> COULD BE. >> SURF BOARD IF WE GET ENOUGH BEACH. >> YOU PUT A CO BEHIND ON A GOLF CART. >> WALK OVER OUT OF THE BOARD. >> YOU'D BE SURPRISED WHAT YOU SEE ON THE BEACH. >> BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS FOR PUTTING A VEHICULAR CAR ACCESS. >> NO. >> NO, SIR. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, MARY, ON THAT? >> NOT ON THAT ONE, BUT THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS 11F AND G. >> 11F AND G. >> INSTRUCTION. >> THE SAME ONE. >> HELLO. >> HOW ARE YOU, AMBER? >> I'M GOOD. >> HOW ARE YOU? >> THANK YOU. >> COME ON, BUTCH, WE DON'T BITE. [LAUGHTER] >> I KNOW. >> CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF, PLEASE? >> MY NAME IS AMBER. I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DEPARTMENT. >> ARE YOU REPLACING DUDLEY? >> WELL, SHE DOESN'T EVER LICENSE YET, SO SHE'S NOT REPLACING DUDLEY. SHE'S JUST THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR NOW. >> CHARLES KENWORTHY, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES. THANK YOU. >> AKA SHOULD BE ON THE RADIO. [LAUGHTER] ANYWAY, I THINK THAT THAT SEEMS HIGH. I'M WONDERING WHO IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HOUSE ON THE THIRD FLOOR. I KNOW WE USED TO HAVE WHAT PLANNING ON THIRD FLOOR? >> NO. >> PING'S NEVER BEEN ON THE THIRD FLOOR. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FINANCE. HR WAS UP THERE FOR A WHILE, BUT NOW SALLY'S UP THERE. >> BUT WE HAVE THE WHOLE FOURTH FLOOR WHERE PLANNING USED TO BE. >> IT'S UP THERE NOW BECAUSE WE MOVED THEM OUT OF HERE. WELL, THAT USED TO BE WHEN WE HAD THE ANNEX. THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER THERE. WHEN WE TORE THE ANNEX DOWN, A LOT OF THOSE MOVED INTO THIS BUILDING. THAT'S WHAT'S UP ON FOUR NOW, IS FACILITIES AND MAINLY IT. >> WELL, MY COMMENT IS THAT SEEMS HIGH. IF WE COULD LIMIT IT DOWN TO A MILLION, THEN WE COULD USE THAT 390,000 TO DO COST OF LIVING INCREASE. >> NO, YOU CAN'T. IT'S ART. WE'RE USING HISTORIC MONEY FOR THE CITY HALL TO DO THESE RENOVATIONS. IT'S RESTRICTED. >> WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR ALL THAT MONEY? >> IT'S REDOING ALL THE FLOORING, CEILINGS, THE HVAC SPRINKLER. >> DEMOLISHING EVERYTHING ON THE FLOOR. YOU DO A TOTAL REBUILD JUST LIKE WE DID ON THE FOURTH FLOOR. >> WE'RE DOING ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL PLUMBING, EVERYTHING. >> WE'VE ALREADY, WHAT'S THE WORD FOR IT? ASBESTOS AND STUFF LIKE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN. >> NO, MA'AM. ON THIRD FLOOR. WE DID IT ON FOUR AS PART OF THAT PROJECT. >> WE'RE DOING IT A FLOOR AT A TIME? >> YES, MA'AM. >> [OVERLAPPING] THE VAULT WAS? >> YES. >> THAT'S CORRECT. LIFE SAFETY, MAYBE SPRINKLER SYSTEM ON THE THIRD FLOOR. >> THE ONLY THING WE DID WITH THE FOURTH FLOOR WAS WE BROUGHT IN ENOUGH CAPACITY SO THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM CAN BE ADDED TO FLOOR BY FLOOR AS WE MOVE DOWN. >> FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THAT SEEM 1.3, SEEMS LIKE VERY FEARSOME TO ME. >> I THINK IT'S HIGH AND WE'RE SPENDING ANOTHER 34,000 ON A CONTRACT FOR MANAGEMENT OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. CONSULTANTS WHO MANAGED A JOB. WHAT'S YOUR OPINION SINCE YOU'RE CONSTRUCTION GUIDE? >> BASICALLY SQUARE FOOTAGE DRIVES. I THINK YOU'RE ALL TOGETHER DOING ABOUT 6,500 SQUARE FEET FROM WHAT I'M GATHERING? >> NO, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. >> WELL, YOU CAN TAKE THE TOTAL FOOTAGE OF THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU CAN TAKE OUT ALL OF THE AREA THAT'S NOT PART OF THE SCOPE. [01:40:02] ACCORDING TO YOUR SURVEY HERE, WHICH IS 65 BY 124, TAKING OUT THE SPACE THAT'S NOT BEING DONE, THAT'S THE NUMBER I'M GETTING. >> I HAVE TO RECHECK THAT, BUT I APPRECIATE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD ON THAT. >> TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT. >> 65 BY 124 IS 8,000 SQUARE FEET. >> WE'LL TAKE OUT AREA THAT YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING, WHICH IS 2,295 SQUARE FEET. WHAT DO YOU GOT THEN? >> THAT'S SIX. WHAT PART ARE WE TAKING OUT? >> WE'RE TAKING OUT THE RESTROOMS. >> BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THOSE. >> BUT YOUR MECHANICAL SAFETY SERVES THE WHOLE THING? >> YES. >> DON'T SHOW THAT. IT SHOWS THAT THE ELECTRICAL IS NOT CHANGED IN THERE. >> NO, IT IS. >> IT IS? >> YES. WE NEED TO UPDATE THE WHOLE THING, ESPECIALLY WITH LED LIGHTS. >> I GUESS WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT THE TOTAL COST IS AROUND ABOUT $210 PER SQUARE FOOT, IS WHAT IT'S BREAKING DOWN TO. >> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MARIE, IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF THE QUESTION. THAT'S PRETTY AVERAGE. >> OR COMMERCIAL. >> WHAT IS THE BUILD-OUT INSIDE THE SCOPE OF WORK? YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE LIFE SAFETY AND THE MECHANICAL, WHAT'S THE BUILD-OUT PART? >> YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT'S ALL INCLUSIVE. THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. >> WE'RE TAKING OUT ALL THE WALLS. [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU GOT OFFICES, WORKSTATIONS. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD QUESTION IS THE BREAKTHROUGH, NOT HAVING ENOUGH PEOPLE TO OCCUPY IT, I GUESS. >> NOTHING HAS EVER DOUBLED UP IN FINANCE BEFORE US. >> YOU'RE PUTTING IN A LOT OF NEW WALLS? >> YES. >> YES. >> THIS IS BASIC OFFICE SUPPORT STUFF? >> YES. >> ALL NEW LED LIGHTING? >> YES. >> ON THE FLOORING, CEILING. [OVERLAPPING] >> WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THERE IS [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM. [OVERLAPPING] >> THERE'S BEEN HODGEPODGE OF WORK DONE IN THIS BUILDING. ABOVE THESE CEILINGS IS A TANGLED WIRED MESS BECAUSE THEY WOULD ABANDON IN PLACE. THERE'S NO SPRINKLER SYSTEM UP THERE. THE LIGHT FIXTURES ARE ALL DIFFERENT. A LOT OF THEM STILL THE OLD BALLAST TYPE LIGHTS. FAILED. WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET ADDRESSED. >> BASICALLY, ACCORDING TO THE PLANS, WE'RE MAKING A BLANK PALETTE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FLOOR AND OPEN CEILING, AND WE'RE PUTTING WALLS ON THE FURNITURE. I DO SEE WHERE YOU ALL CHANGED THE DESIGN OF THE FURNITURE AND THAT COST US ANOTHER 45 GRAND. THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE. YOU WENT FROM A MODULAR TO A MORE TEMPORARY. >> YES. >> MORE TRADITION. >> CUSTOM WORKSTATIONS, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? >> NO. IT WAS A MODULAR SYSTEM, BUT WE NEEDED MORE PRIVACY FOR THE FINANCIAL AREA, ESPECIALLY ON HR. >> IS THAT WHAT THE CHANGE ORDER ON [INAUDIBLE] IS ABOUT? >> YES. >> I WAS WONDERING HOW THAT DIDN'T GET ADDRESSED DURING SCHEMATIC DESIGN INSTEAD OF AFTER ALL THE MECHANICAL HAD. >> HERE'S WHAT WE DID. WE HAD A COMPANY COME IN THAT WAS GOING TO DO IT, BUT THEN WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK. THERE WAS PRIVACY CONCERNS, THERE WAS OTHER ISSUES WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON UP THERE WITH HR. WE WENT BACK WITH THE WALL SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. >> YOU MEAN A MODULAR WALL SYSTEM. BUT THE WALLS WE SEE HERE ARE FLOOR CEILING. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO MODULAR, BUT THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. >> NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE LITTLE BIT OF A MIX OF IT. THE AREAS THAT DON'T NEED THE PRIVACY, THERE' WILL STILL BE SOME MODULAR, BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WALLS IN THE AREAS THAT NEEDED. >> I AGREE WITH BOTH ANYWHERE NEAR $210 PER A HOOD OF. >> HOPE FOR THAT ANY DAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, MARIE? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, MA'AM. >> 11 U AND 11 V. >> 11 U AND 11 V. >> CAN YOU PROVIDE? >> I'D BE HAPPY TO. >> BRANDON YOU CAN BY YOURSELF. >> GOOD MORNING. MAYOR, COUNSEL, BRANDON COOK, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. THE GREAT SYSTEM, IT REALLY STANDS FOR THE GALVESTON RAPID EVACUATION AND TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. WHAT IT IS, IT'S A AI BASED ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING SYSTEM THAT THE GOALS ARE TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW, REDUCE CONGESTION, AND PRIORITIZE PUBLIC SAFETY. THE LIGHTS WILL BE ABLE TO BE ADJUSTED IN REAL TIME. BASED ON DEMAND, TRAFFIC DEMANDS AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME FOR EVENTS SUCH AS LONE STAR RALLY OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT ALSO JUST NORMAL DAILY ISSUES LIKE RUSH HOUR, [01:45:06] AND ALSO 11:00 A.M. CHECKOUT ON A SUNDAY IN THE SUMMER. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE INCLUDING EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION INTO THE LIGHTS SO THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES GET PRIORITY. I LOOK CLICKER. ACCESS WHEN THEIR SIRENS ARE ACTIVATED AND WILL AUTOMATICALLY START PRIORITIZING THEM WITH THE GREEN LIGHTS. WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE RAILROAD DETECTION SO THAT WE CAN RE ROUTE TRAFFIC WHEN A TRAIN IS BLOCKING HARBOR SIDE OR SO. ALL OF THIS WILL BE REMOTELY MANAGED AND OPERATED FROM A NEW TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IN THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. THEY'RE ON 30TH THE MARKET. WHAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO DO IS ALLOW US TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR OPERATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO GARNER A LOT MORE EFFICIENCIES WITH THIS. FOR INSTANCE, ON 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND, WE HAVE TO MANUALLY STAGE TRAFFIC PERSONNEL, POLICE OFFICERS AT VARIOUS INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND AS WE'RE EVACUATING OVER 300,000 PEOPLE. OFF THE ISLAND AFTER THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY. THEY YOU KNOW, MANUALLY CONTROL THE SIGNALS. WELL, NOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT TWO GUYS OR EVEN A GUY AND GIRL IN THE SHOP OVER THERE AT THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING AND BE ABLE TO REMOTELY MANAGE THAT. WE CAN KEEP POLICE OFFICERS IN THEIR VEHICLES FOCUS ON DOING WHAT THEY DO BEST, AND THAT'S GOING AFTER BAD GUYS AND NOT MANUALLY SIGNALS. MANUALLY DOING THAT AND DIRECTING TRAFFIC. IT'S REALLY A FORCED MULTIPLIER AS WELL. I REALLY WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR HAVING US FOCUS ON EFFICIENCIES AND SMARTER WAYS TO OPERATE. I FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT IS THAT VISION REALLY COMING OF FRUITION RIGHT NOW. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO, WE'VE BROUGHT IN OVER $150 MILLION OF THESE COMPETITIVE FEDERAL DOLLARS. $150 MILLION. THAT'S NINE FIGURES THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING $100,000 BUDGET CUT HERE, 100,000 THERE. THIS IS REAL MONEY. TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, OUR GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW IS $75 MILLION. WE'VE BROUGHT IN DOUBLE THAT MONEY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. IF YOU GO BACK TEN YEARS, IT'S MORE ABOUT $300 MILLION THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IN REDUCING THAT BURDEN OFF OF OUR LOCAL TAXPAYERS. >> WHERE DID THESE FUNDS WERE THE HCAC FUNDS? >> WELL, I'M GLAD I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. LAST YEAR ALONE, WE BROUGHT IN ABOUT 58 MILLION IN THEIR HCAC FUNDS, BUT THIS WAS A COMPETITIVE GRANT, THE SMART GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR LAST YEAR. YOU KNOW, $18 MILLION IS IN THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW. THAT SMART GRANT, THERE WAS ONLY 34 PROJECTS AWARDED IN THE ENTIRE NATION ON THAT. ONLY THREE OF THEM IN TEXAS. IT WAS EL PASO, WACO AND RIGHT HERE ON LITTLE O' GAVISON ISLAND. WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS WE'RE NOT ONLY COMPETING AGAINST THE BIG BOYS AND THE MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, BUT WE'RE COMPETING AND WE'RE WINNING AGAINST THEM ON NATIONAL COMPETITIVE GRANT AND IT'S NOT GOING UNNOTICED. IF YOU LOOK, OUR BOND RATING WAS JUST UPGRADED TO DOUBLE A PLUS, THAT'S THE HIGHEST RATING IN GALVESTON'S HISTORY, AS FAR AS I KNOW, AND THE VOTERS JUST APPROVED OVERWHELMINGLY THE BOND PROPOSITION FOR THE FIRE STATION AT 62%. THAT'S A LANDSLIDE IN MUNICIPAL BOND ELECTIONS. MOST OF THE OTHER LOCAL BOND PROPOSITIONS IN THE COUNTY FAILED, BUT OURS OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED OVER THERE. IN SPITE OF IT HAVING BALLOT LANGUAGE ON THERE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW SAYING, THIS IS A TAX INCREASE. >> FIREMAN DID A GREAT JOB, BUT MARKETING [INAUDIBLE] >> IT ALSO SAYS. WELL THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. >> BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. >> WART LIGHTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THIS SYSTEM? >> THE SCHOOL FLASHERS? YES. >> THAT WAS WARRANT LIGHTS, THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY ACTIVATED BY WHAT TRAFFIC IS THERE? >> LIKE ON 53RD AND S. >> OR LIKE A PIRATES OR YES. >> BECAUSE THIS WILL BE A COMPLETE NEW SKATE A SYSTEM AND ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS WILL BE INTEGRATED. WE'RE DESIGNING IT WHERE WE CAN THE SAME. [01:50:01] >> BUT WE'LL BE ALL THAT EXPENSE THAT WE ALREADY PUT INTO THOSE OTHER LIGHTS WILL BE. >> ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS THE BRAINS OF THE OPERATION RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT THIS GETS YOU AND THE ABILITY TO REMOTELY MONITOR AND MANAGE IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. >> WE HAD BOB AND THEN [OVERLAPPING]. >> BE CLEAR, THIS PROJECT WILL I GUESS ASSESS THE CONDITIONS, DESIGN OF THE SYSTEM, AND THEN INSTALL A PILOT. YES. THIS DOESN'T PAY FOR THE WHOLE ALSO TRAINING FOR THE STAFF, BUT IT DOESN'T PAY FOR THE WHOLE ISLAND WIDE PROJECT. THAT'D BE A DIFFERENT TRAIN. >> WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WAITING ON THE AFA, THE BANS FUNDING AGREEMENT FROM TECH DOT TO FUND THE LATTER HALF. RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE ENTIRE $3 MILLION CONTRACT WITH STAN TECH. BUT THEN YOU HAVE A SECOND ITEM ON THERE THAT'S A TASK ORDER BASIS, AND WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH THE SMART GRANT MONEY AT FIRST TO START OFF THE DESIGN BECAUSE WE HAVE HARD DEADLINES, AND ONCE WE GET THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT FROM TEXAS, WE CAN ISSUE FURTHER TASK ORDERS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. YOU JEOPARDIZE THE FUNDING IN THE GRANT WORLD. >> THIS PILOT WILL BE LIKE A BETA, YOU'LL DO THE PILOT YOU'LL EVALUATE IT AND NEEDS TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE FULL ISLAND LIGHT SYSTEM. >> THIS REALLY IS ONLY THIS AGREEMENT WITH STANTEC. IT IS NOT FOR THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION, BUT JUST BASICALLY TO DO IT WHAT I'M SEEING IS ALMOST LIKE CREATING BLUEPRINTS AND AND CONSULTING FOR THE PROJECT. >> YOU'RE GOING TO DESIGN THE PROJECT, AND WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY THE PARTICULAR COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO THE MARKET TO PURCHASE. THEN WE WILL GO OUT, BID THOSE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND THEN EVALUATE THEM AND THEN FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WIDGETS WE'RE GOING TO PUT. >> WE'RE SPENDING 3 MILLION BASICALLY FOR STANTEC TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED. THAT'S ALL. >> IT'S GOING TO BE TO STUDY THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AND TO COME UP WITH ACCEPTANCE CRITERIA. SOFTWARE IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ANALYZE IT TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S MEETING THE APPROPRIATE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE, CONDUCT TRAFFIC STUDIES. THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK THIS MORNING ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES WITH THE SYSTEM OF THIS NATURE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO HIT A BUTTON AND PUMP OUT ALL THIS DATA THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST EMBEDDED IN THE SYSTEM. >> TO HIS QUESTION. WHAT EXACTLY IS COVERED UNDER THE FO ACT. RIGHT NOW. >> IT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THERE. IT'S ABOUT SEVEN DIFFERENT TASKS IN THERE. I HAVE TO PULL IT UP AND THEN GO THROUGH. >> I READ THEM. THIS IS BASICALLY A CONSULTING CONTRACT. A DESIGN CONSULTING THE CONTRACT? >> IT IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING. >> DEFINITELY PROFESSIONAL BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING $3 MILLION ON GETTING THEIR IDEAS. I GET THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALL IT'S JUST BASICALLY A STUDY A DESIGN STUDY IS WHAT IT IS. >> A STUDY IS A PORTION OF IT IS THAT [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY'RE NOT GOING OUT AND FIXING ANY BRAND IS WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S JUST BASICALLY A STUDY REPORT, A DESIGN STUDY REPORT SAYING THIS SWITCH YOU NEED. >> THEY'RE GOING TO DESIGN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS WHAT IT IS. >> BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE PARTS. >> BRANDS THAT ONCE THEY THEY WILL PROVIDE THE THEY WILL PROVIDE THE DESIGN, ALL THE ENGINEERING BEHIND IT, AND THEN WE CAN BID IT OUT. >> YOU ARE GOING TO PUT IN A PILOT PROJECT THOUGH. THERE WILL BE A LIMITED INSTALLATION SOMEWHERE TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THIS WHOLE THING. >> CAN WE IDENTIFY? >> I DIDN'T SAY THAT IN THE SEVEN ITEMS. >> THAT'S PART OF THEIR SCOPE. >> DOESN'T SAY THAT. >> SPEAKING OF THAT, WHERE I'LL SEND YOU AN E MAILS IN PULLING OUT THE SCOPE AND SHOWING YOU EXACTLY. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE CONTEMPLATING THE PILOT HASN'T BEEN IDENTIFIED, BUT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING THE SEAWALL BOULEVARD AREA FOR THE PILOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNDER TEXAS JURISDICTION. WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PORTION OF THE SEAWALL BOULEVARD AND MAYBE SOME CORRIDORS THAT FEED INTO IT. THAT WILL BE FURTHER DEFINED AS WE GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF. >> THAT IS PART OF THE 2.96 MILLION. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SIR. >> ALL OF THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT WE'RE RECEIVING THAT YOU DESIGN A CONTRACT LIKE THIS WITH PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES. WE'RE NOT AT LIBERTY TO JUST GO OUT AND PICK A VENDOR AND THEN PURCHASE WHATEVER WE BELIEVE IS BEST. IT HAS TO BE DID ACCORDINGLY, AND ACCORDING TO LAW AND COMPLY WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT STATE LAWS, FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH TRAFFIC SYSTEM. ASSUME JURISDICTION IS TO. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TEXT DOT. SIGNALS THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF AT THIS POINT. [01:55:04] BY VIRTUE OF THAT WE'RE SUBJECT TO ALL THEIR RULES. >> WELL, I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. THE TWO FTE TALKED ABOUT TO MANAGE THE SYSTEM. ARE THOSE NEW FTE OR ARE THEY EXISTING STAFF THAT WILL BE ASSIGNED. >> EXISTING STAFF. >> THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF THE MORE EFFICIENCIES OUT OF THESE OPERATIONS. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, MARC. >> WE'RE BUDGETING TWO FULL SI PEOPLE FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST. NO. WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS A STUDY. >> NO. THESE TWO PEOPLE ARE ALREADY WORKING FOR US TODAY DOING TRAFFIC WORK. THEY'LL JUST THIS WILL BE ADDED TO THEIR DUTIES. >> IT'LL EVOLVE. THEIR JOBS WILL EVOLVE. WITH TECHNOLOGY IN THE FUTURE. JUST LIKE ALL OF OUR JOBS. >> THIS IS A BASICALLY FROM WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING ON YOUR CRITICAL PATH SCHEDULE. YOU'RE SHOWING THIS IS A 2.5 YEAR PROJECT. >> AT THE LEAST, WE'LL BE TWEAKING ALGORITHMS OUT INTO THE FUTURE, I'M SURE AS WE GET EXPOSED TO DIFFERENT DATA FROM VARIOUS SPECIAL EVENTS AND DIFFERENT AREAS OF OPERATIONS AND WHAT HAVE YOU? >> NO. I'M JUST READING THROUGH YOUR CONSTRUCTION AND EVALUATION AND MONITORING SUPPORT. >> THAT'S WHAT THE DESIGN CONTRACT COVERS. YES. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, GRANTED. >> THIS IS A REALLY PRETTY EXCITING. THIS IS A VERY EXCITING. BEING ON THE CUTTING EDGE AND WAS APPLYING AIA TO THIS THING, AND WE ALL HEAR EVERY DAY THAT PEOPLE WISH THOSE LIGHTS WERE TIME SO I COULD JUST DRIVE AT ONE SPEED AND GET THROUGH ALL OF THEM. WELL, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD ANY INKLING OF AN ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> THEY'RE TIME NOW TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, BUT WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW THE PART THAT DOESN'T GET TAKEN INTO EFFECT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TIME LIGHTS IS WHERE TWO SYSTEMS MAIN TRAFFIC SYSTEM LIGHT SYSTEMS OR SEAWALL AND BROADWAY. IF YOU BE GREAT TO TURN THEM ALL GREEN AND GET EVERYBODY IN OR OUT, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU TRAP EVERYBODY IN THE CENTER OF TOWN, AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE BULK OF YOUR RESIDENTS ARE THAT WE SUPPORT HERE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ALLOW THEM ACCESS TO THE THOROUGHFARES, AND THAT'S WHAT CAUSES THAT. THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS STUDY IS GOING TO BE DOING TOO IS MAKING SURE WE DO THAT IN A WAY THAT WE DON'T KILL OUR RESIDENTS JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE COMING ON AND OFF THE ISLAND. >> BUT WHAT'S NEAT ABOUT IT IS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO WHERE THE NEED IS TO GET THE TRAFFIC LIGHT LIDO, A CRUISHIP TRAFFIC EVENTS, THOSE THINGS. >> MOST OF OUR BIG TRAFFIC SYSTEM TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEMS ARE ON TEXTILE ROADWAYS. THAT MAKES THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX, 61ST STREET BROADWAY, HARBORSIDE, WEST SEAWALL. THOSE ARE ALL TEXTILE ROADWAYS. WE HAVE MIXED SIGNALS IN TOWN THAT WE'LL BE DEALING WITH AS PART OF THIS STUDY TOO, BUT THOSE ARE YOUR BIG SYSTEMS. >> I JUST WANT TO CF. THE SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES IF NECESSARY OR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND TESTING, ATMS, SUBSYSTEM, INTEGRATION SUPPORT, EXTENSION, PERFORMANCE EVALUATION AND MONITORING SYSTEM, AND FINAL AS BUILT SYSTEM. WE WILL HAVE THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER. THAT'S ALL THAT'S COVERED IN THE 3 MILLION. >>THE DESIGN. >> THE DESIGN. >> ALL OF THAT IS COVERED. ALL THOSE DELIVERABLES THAT YOU JUST READ OFF, THOSE ARE ALL COVERED. >> THESE ARE SUPPLEMENTAL SERVERS IF REQUESTED, ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATION AND FUNDING WOULD BE REQUIRED. [OVERLAPPING] THE MANAGEMENT, THE GRANT MANAGEMENT, TRAFFIC SIGNAL NEEDS ASSESSMENTS, SYSTEM ENGINEERING ANALYSIS REPORT, TRAFFIC SYSTEM DESIGN FOR 106 INTERSECTION, PILOT DEPLOYMENT CONSTRUCTION, AND TESTING, AND PILOT PERFORMANCE AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE WHOLE REST OF THE SYSTEM. THAT'S WHAT IT INCLUDES IN THEIR SCOPE. >> YEAH. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. THAT'S WHAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA FOR APPROVAL TODAY, AND WE'LL BRING BACK THE SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES ONCE WE GET THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT FROM TEXT DOT FOR THE ADDITIONAL PART OF THE SCOPE. >> THE IMPLEMENTS FOR THE REST THIS. [OVERLAPPING]. >> YES, FOR THE REST OF THIS. [OVERLAPPING] >> WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THE REST OF THIS TO COST? >> IT WILL BE THE WHOLE 3 MILLION. RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA IS 1.99 97. WE'RE GOING FOR THE SMART GRANT FUNDING TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE AWARD AUTHORITY TO SPEND THAT MONEY. WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION AWARD AUTHORITY FOR THE CMAC FUNDING, JUST YET. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON TEXT DOT FOR. AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE DELAYS AT THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM TEXT. >> BECAUSE THEY'RE OVERWHELMING. >> I'M TRYING TO CRANK OUT SO MANY OF THEM. I FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM THAT FRIDAY AFTER THE COUNCIL MEETING AND STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED IT. [02:00:03] JANELLE EVEN FOLLOWED UP WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] TO TRY TO GET THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT AND STILL NO LUCK. SO HERE WE ARE. WE'RE WAITING AND THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE STRUCTURED THE CONTRACT IN ORDER TO MEET THESE DEADLINES THAT ARE THERE AND TO KEEP THE PROJECT ON THE CRITICAL PATH RIGHT NOW. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? >> WE TALKED FOR A LONG TIME EARLIER WITH THE PORT AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHY WE WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS IN COOPERATION WITH HOW IMPORTANTLY WE DIRECTED THEM THAT WE NEED A MOBILITY STUDY. BRIAN JUST MENTIONED CRUISE SHIP TRAFFIC AND OUR SITUATION WITH THAT, WITH PARKING, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY BIG PART OF OUR HARBOR SIDE DRIVE THOROUGHFARE. I DON'T KNOW. TO ME, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THIS COULDN'T BE DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE PORT TO DO WHEN EVERY BIT INVOLVES THEM. >> WELL, THEY WILL BE A STAKEHOLDER ON THIS PROJECT. WE WILL HAVE JEFFREY THOMAS. I SPOKE TO HIM AT THE GALVESTON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. >> NONE OF THEIR BOARD THAT WAS SITTING HERE JUST AN HOUR AGO. HAVE ANY IDEA THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED OR THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. I GUESS THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD IF WE'VE SEEN THAT. BOB HAS MENTIONED IT MULTIPLE TIMES. DAVID'S MENTIONED IT MULTIPLE TIMES. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT AND ASKING OF THE PORT, I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE KEYED INTO THAT TO SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. WE SHOULD WORK ON THIS TOGETHER. >> WELL, THIS IS A MOBILITY STUDY. THIS IS A DESIGN. >> MOBILITY STUDY IS INVOLVED WITH TRAFFIC STUDY. IT'S ALL ONE THING. IT'S NOT JUST THIS. TRAFFIC STUDY, MOBILITY STUDY, MOVEMENT AROUND GALVESTON. LET ME JUST SAY IT THAT WAY. [OVERLAPPING] MOVEMENT AROUND GALVESTON. >> WELL, THIS IS ON THIS IS ON A STRICT SCHEDULE. WE HAVE TO EXPEND AND WE HAVE TO LET CONTRACTS BY NEXT AUGUST. WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO INCORPORATE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THE DESIGN OF THIS. THAT'S PART OF EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY FROM HCAC AND TEXT DOT TELL US WE HAVE TO GET THE MONEY OFF OF THEIR BOOKS BY NEXT AUGUST. THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE STRUCTURED THE CONTRACT IN THIS FASHION AND WE'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL WE GET ALL THE NOTICE TO PROCEED ON ALL THE DIFFERENT GRANTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE BALL MOVING. IF WE SLOW THIS DOWN, THEN WE COULD JEOPARDIZE ALL THE FUNDING AND IT'S ALL FOR NONE. >> CERTAINLY THE PORT WILL BE A STAKEHOLDER AND THEIR INPUTS CAN BE VITAL TO HOW THIS WORKS BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE TRAFFIC COUNT. IT IS. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AND THEY CAN USE THE DATA THAT'S GATHERED FOR THIS INTO THEIR OWN MOBILITY STUDY, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THIS. THEY'RE MOVING TRAFFIC ON THEIR OWN. >> I KNOW IT'S MORE SPECIFIC TO THEIR AREA. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO JEOPARDIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR CITIZENS TO HOLD UP JUST TO ACCOMMODATE CRUISE PASSENGERS. >> YOU'RE THE ONE THAT SAID INVOLVE OUR CRUISE. >> I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CRUISES. >> YOU DID SAY. >> I SAID HARBORSIDE WAS ON THE STATE SYSTEM. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CRUISE PASSENGERS. >> LET'S JUST HAVE TWO SEPARATE THINGS GOING IN TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, ACTUALLY NOT SHOULDN'T BE WORKING TOGETHER. >> ACTUALLY, THIS WILL SAVE THE PORTS OF MONEY BECAUSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CAPTURE SOME OF THIS DATA HOPEFULLY. >> HOW ABOUT THIS, I'LL MAKE IT EASIER. LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THIS GOING ON, BRANDON AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT AGENDA ITEM WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. >> ARE YOU TALKING TO JEFFREY. >> I'VE SPOKEN TO THEIR STAFF. IT'S ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWSPAPER TODAY ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW. >> IT MUST BE TRUE THEN. >> IT IS TRUE. JUST MAKE SURE, I THINK WITH COUNCILMAN MALI IS SAYING THAT WE KEEP THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE PORT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, BRANDON. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS PARTICULAR. YES, PLEASE. >> I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME ANALYSIS, THE OVERALL COST OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE 5, 10, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, FOR THE CITY. IF IT'S EFFICIENCY, THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A POSITIVE THING. BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS WE IMPLEMENT SOMETHING, AND IT KIND OF HANDCUFFS US TO EXPENDITURES GROWING IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S SOMETHING WITH PUMP STATIONS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, IT'S GOING TO BE INCREASE OF WATER RATES. SOMETHING SIMILAR WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HANDCUFF US AND IF THERE IS FEDERAL MONEY AVAILABLE DOWN THE ROAD. THAT'S JUST A FOUR YEAR CYCLE AND HOW THINGS HAPPEN. LET'S JUST SEE WHAT IT COSTS THE CITY FOR 10, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR EXPENDITURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT UPKEEP. I'M SURE THAT'LL BE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS, BUT IF WE CAN GET AN ANALYSIS TO VIEW THAT AS WELL. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. [02:05:02] >> DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THE STUDY AND THE DESIGN OF THE WHOLE PROGRAM. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS. MURRAY, ANY OTHER TOPICS YOU WANTED? >> HOPE, HOW ARE YOU THIS MORNING? >> MORNING. >> MORNING. >> JUST A QUICK QUESTION. >> EXCUSE ME. INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE CAMERA. >> HOPE DEAN, IT DIRECTOR. >> GOOD. THANK YOU. >> MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW WE BUY A LOT OF DIFFERENT SOFTWARES, BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING THAT ERP SYSTEM. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT INTERFACES WITH ERP SYSTEM? >> ACTUALLY, THERE IS AN INTEGRATION TO THAT. WE PULL PAYROLL DATA OR ACTUAL SALARY DATA AND HOURLY RATES FOR PERSONNEL OUT OF WORKDAY AND MOVE IT OVER INTO THIS SYSTEM SO THAT THEY CAN CALCULATE COST. >> WILL THERE EVER BE A DAY WHERE EVERYTHING IS UNDER ONE SYSTEM, THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THE ERP? >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT WORKDAY DOESN'T HAVE A PLATFORM THAT SUPPORTS ASSET MANAGEMENT LIKE WITH THIS. >> I SUSPECT THERE EVENTUALLY WILL BE AT SOME POINT IN OUR LIVES, BUT AT THIS POINT, THE BEST THING THEY DO IS THE CONNECTIVES. IS THERE SOME SPECIALIZED STUFF WITH THESE. >> THANK YOU, HOPE. APPRECIATE IT. >> THAT'S GOOD. THANKS. >> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT ONE IS 311 A A. >> MISS MORNING, COUNSEL? >> YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THAT SHIRT UNDERNEATH. I'M JUST TAKE THE JACKET OFF. THERE YOU GO. YES INTERNAL DIRECTOR OF MUNICIPAL UTILITIES. >> I THOUGHT BRIAN ALFORD SHIRTS AND SAID. >> NO, SHE'S GOT JACKET? I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WHY WE'RE ADDING A MORE LEGAL SERVICE FOR 100,000. >> WE'VE DONE THIS EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. WE USE THIS FOR ALL DIFFERENT THINGS. A. >> ANYTIME WE HAVE ANY KIND OF ISSUES WITH TCQ, OR IF WE HAVE RATE STUDY ISSUES, WE'VE USED ROY GLOSS FOR ISSUES WITH TEXAS NATURAL GAS SERVICE AND WITH CENTERPOINT AND OTHER THINGS. IT'S JUST OUR ANNUAL CONTRACT LOAD. >> ISN'T IT TYPICALLY AROUND 25,000. >> WE WERE RIGHT AT 100,000 MARK THIS YEAR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS THE PREVIOUS YEAR. >> IT'S USUALLY RIGHT AROUND $100,000. WE MAY HAVE BEEN HOPEFUL IN SOME BUDGETS AND CAME BACK AND AMENDED IT. >> WE DO MULTIPLE CONTRACTS WITH THIS LAW FIRM BECAUSE. >> IF THERE'S ANY ONE OFF THAT WE WOULD NEED DONE, IF THERE'S SOME SPECIALTY ISSUE THAT WE WOULD NEED THEM FOR THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS, BUT TYPICALLY, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IT. >> THIS $100,000, IS THAT SEEN AS A CAP? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY DON'T UTILIZE AT ALL. >> WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE MONEY. >> YOU'RE RIGHT. THEY BILL BY THEIRS, THEY DON'T USE ALL THAT BY THE ERROR, THEN THEY DON'T GET IT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, TYSON. >> YES, SIR? >> YES, BREE. >> YEAH. 11 KK. >> BEVERLY IS NOT HERE. I'LL SHOOT MY BEST TO CHOOSE HERE. WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN PD THAT THE CHIEF FELT MORE COMFORTABLE GETTING AN OUTSIDE FIRM INVOLVED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. WE'VE USED CAROLYN'S FIRM IN THE PAST SHE'S VERY GOOD, AND VERY EFFICIENT AND CHEAP. >> OFFICER HALL ASKED FOR OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION. >> THANK YOU. SEE, THAT'S BEEN EASY. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS? MARK. >> I'VE HAD ALL MY ANSWERED EXCEPT FOR ONE,10E THE HOT ARTS DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. >> LET'S SEE. >> TEN E TEN E. THAT'S THE ARTS DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONER. YEAH. >> I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THIS. IT SAYS, UNDER SECTION A, IT SAYS, ALL CORPORATED ACCESS FUNDS GENERATED FROM UNDERESTIMATE OF THE VALUE OF THE HOT FUND WILL BE PLACED IN THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FUND FOR FURTHER USE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROGRAM. [02:10:02] I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER TYING A CAP TO THAT, TIE CAP TO THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE ARC BEING MAINTAINED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS GOING TO GENERATE, BUT, IF IT HAPPENS TO GENERATE MORE THAN WE ACTUALLY NEED, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. >> I KNOW THAT MARON, DD AND TONY ARE HERE, SO THEY'LL PROBABLY BETTER ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I THINK, THEY'RE JUST MAKING THEIR WAY INTO THE SPACE. TONY'S NEXT DOOR. >> THEY HEARD THEIR NAME. >> THERE'S TONY. COME ON IN. TONY AND MARON, WOULD YOU BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT SAME THING. I WANT TO EXPAND ON. MARON AND TONY, COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE. >> MARON GENADE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, CITY GOAL. >> ANTONE LYNCH, ARTS AND CULTURE COORDINATOR. >> I'LL REPEAT MY QUESTION. ON THE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE UNDER SECTION A, IT SAYS, ALL CORPORATED AND EXCESS FUND GENERATED UNDER ESTIMATE OF THE VALUE OF THE FUND WILL BE PLACED IN THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FUND FOR FURTHER USE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROGRAM. MY QUESTION WAS, DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER PUTTING A CAP ON THAT THAT MAY BE TIED TO SOMETHING LIKE THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE OUTSTANDING ART THAT WE MAINTAINED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO STILL IT NEVER GET OUT OF CONTROL. >> THAT WAS ONE REASON I WANTED SOME INPUT FROM COUNSEL AS TO THE WORKINGS OF THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHALL WANT, THE TIME TO PUT IT IN IS NOW. >> WE DISCUSSED IT AT LENGTH WITH TCHILLA AND WE SHOWED HER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT FUNDING WOULD HOPEFULLY PAY FOR IN THE FUTURE, AND NONE OF IT IS SMALL TICKET ITEMS. THAT'S THE CONCERN IS ANY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS COULD POTENTIALLY REACH THAT CAP AND EXCEED IT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO MAINTAIN. YOU LOOK AT JUST THE FOUNTAIN IN KEMPNER. >> YEAH, I REALLY DON'T HAVE A HANDLE ON WHAT ALL PUBLIC ART IS BEING MAINTAINED, AND WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THIS. >> THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCES ONLY ALLOWED, WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE MAINTENANCE FUNDING WE WERE BUILDING OR ACCRUING. BUT THE GOAL OF THAT WAS JUST TO MAINTAIN WHAT THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION ACTUALLY PUT FORWARD. THE NEW ORDINANCE IS TO DO ALL PUBLIC ART THAT THE CITY HAS ACCEPTED TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THAT, WHICH, THAT'S A LOT. >> YOU HAVE AN INVENTORY OF THAT, I GUESS. >. WELL, NO. NOT A GOOD ONE. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS GET AN INVENTORY, GET A MAINTENANCE PLAN, TRIAGE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. A LOT OF THE MONUMENTS ARE STRUGGLING. >> OR GET DAMAGED? >> YES, AND NONE OF THAT IS CHEAP. >> THE ONLY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE IS WHAT WOULD BE THE UNDERESTIMATED FUNDS FOR THE YEAR? OR IS THERE SOME OTHER POT OF MONEY? THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG JOB. >> MAINTAINING ALL IT'S GOING TO BE A GROWING JOB BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO ADD MORE MARS. >> YES, FORFEITED MONIES COME BACK TO THAT FUND. GO AHEAD. BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT POT. I GOT. NO, NO. THAT'S GO AHEAD, BOB. I'VE GOT A SERIES OF E. >> I'M JUST THE QUESTION, IF THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT POT RIGHT NOW FROM FORFEITED OR UNDERESTIMATE? >> THERE IS SOME FUNDING THAT WILL BE IN THERE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE ARTS AND HISTORIC HAD SET MONEY ASIDE AND CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION HAD SET SOME MONEY ASIDE AS WELL FOR MAINTENANCE AND FOR THE PLAQUES THAT DON'T EXIST. OUR PUBLIC ART SHOULD ALL HAVE PLAQUES ON IT, AND THAT WAS THE PLAN, BUT THEN WE REALIZED WE COULDN'T ACTUALLY ACCESS THE FUNDING TO CREATE THEM. >> I GUESS, IF WE DON'T HAVE AN INVENTORY YET OR IDEA OF THE SCOPE OF WORK OF MAINTAINING THESE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING TO REQUIRE. >> I WOULD LOVE TO TO NOT CAP IT UNTIL WE BRING BACK. ANYTHING'S GOING TO COME TO COUNCIL BEFORE WE SPEND A DIME. YOU CAN ALWAYS THEN BE LIKE, PUMP BREAKS, MAYBE WE SHOULD AMEND. >> THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION FOR ME. I THINK IT'D BE PREMATURE TO PUT A CAP ON IT. WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA YET. >> THAT IS MY PERSONAL. >> I AGREE WITH THAT. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. >> THANK YOU, BOB. I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M GOING TO RESTATE THIS QUESTION A DIFFERENT WAY. HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE ACCOUNT NOW FOR FORFEITED AND ALL THIS EXCESS. MONEY HAS BEEN ACCUMULATING. >> FORFEIT AND SEIZED ARE FUN. [LAUGHTER] SORRY. >> OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. [LAUGHTER] >> I KNOW IT'S OVER A MILLION BUT I CAN'T GIVE ANYTHING MORE SPECIFIC THAN THAT. >> WELL, THIS IS MY QUESTION. MONEY HAS BEEN GROWING IN THIS FUND OVER THERE AND IT'S BEEN SITTING IN THE WAY THE ORDINANCE HAD BEEN STRUCTURED, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TO THAT MONEY. >> CORRECT. [02:15:02] >> WHAT I SEE HERE IS THAT THAT MONEY NOW IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FUND, IS THAT RIGHT? >> WELL, THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN IS IN FUTURE. IT'S NOT CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT THE PAST RESERVE. >> IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHAT HAPPENS THAT MILLION AND SOMETHING DOLLARS? >> THAT IS MY WHEELHOUSE. >> WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT. >> WELL, THAT'S MY QUESTION. I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION ON HOW THAT MILLION AND SOMETHING DOLLARS. NOW, MOVING FORWARD, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO APPARENTLY ACCUMULATE ANY MORE MONEY IN THAT ACCOUNT. YOU'VE GOT A MILLION AND SOMETHING DOLLARS SITTING IN THIS ACCOUNT, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY FOR GETTING TO THAT MONEY, IN MY OPINION, FOR PROJECTS THAT MAY POP UP THAT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR COMING OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR POT OF MONEY THAT DON'T GO THROUGH THE TIMELINE OF THE NORMAL PROCESS. >> AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WHEN WE DRAFTED IT AND WHEN WE SPOKE TO CSILLA, THIS ORDINANCE IS OVERSEEING THE RESERVE IN THE CURRENT ALLOCATIONS. THE SURPLUS. >> 1.3. CSILLA, ABOUT ONE POINT. >> GIVE OR TAKE. >> GIVE OR TAKE. [OVERLAPPING] >> I THINK THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DELAYED, AND I IF WE WANT, MAYOR, WE COULD PUT THE ITEM ON FOR THE NEXT AGENDA. >> I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, WE'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF CLEANING THIS WHOLE ARTS AND HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX ALLOCATION AND GETTING IT ORGANIZED IN ONE SECTION. BUT WE STILL HAVE THAT HANGING OUT THERE OF THIS 1.3. I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT, GET COUNCIL'S INPUT, GET YOUR GET YOUR INPUT, AS THE LIAISON AND DAVID FINKLEA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND HANDLE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NEVER BEEN APPROACHED HERE IN RECENT HISTORY. YES, SIR. >> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. BUT I THINK I'M WONDERING IF IT'D BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE AN INVENTORY OF ALL THE ART THAT WE WOULD BE MAINTAINING AND SOME IDEA OF A BUDGET FOR THAT MAINTENANCE WHEN WE DO ADDRESS THIS MILLION DOLLAR LATER. >> IN MY LIST OF TO-DO AND TO DISCUSS WITH THAT BOARD AND HOW WE DO IT IS TO PUT OUT SOME RFP FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND DO A FULL INVENTORY, A FULL ASSESSMENT OF ALL OF OUR ASSETS. >> WOULD SMU BE ABLE TO DO THAT? >> NO. NOT OUR PHYSICAL ASSETS, NO. >> JANELLE, COULD YOU PUT ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING TO DISCUSS. WHAT IS THE PROPER TERM? >> SURPLUS. >> SURPLUS OF THE ARTS AND DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION? >> AHP. >> IT'S WITH THE ARTS AND HISTORIC COURT WHICH IS NOW WRITTEN OUT OF EXISTENCE. [OVERLAPPING] I THINK DEFUNCT MEANS THAT IT STILL EVEN EXISTS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. >> SUNSET, THAT WE'LL SAY THAT. >> YEAH. IT'S CORRECTLY WITH THE ARTS HISTORIC, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T EXIST. >> IF WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN GIVE GUIDANCE, AND THEN THAT WOULD I THINK WE CAN CHECK THAT OFF OF ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED. THIS IS HANGING OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE. >> YES. >> PRETTY CLEAR. [OVERLAPPING] >> THANK YOU GUYS. BOB, ANYTHING ELSE, SIR. THAT'S IT FOR ME. >> I HAVE ONE ITEM, AND THIS IS 8A. HERE COMES DANIEL. HOW ARE YOU, SIR? >> EIGHT, WHICH ONE? >> 8A, PLEASE. >> I'M DANIEL. PLANNING MANAGER. >> DANIEL, HAVE A SEAT, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, SIR. >> WE DON'T BITE. [LAUGHTER] >> I KEEP HEARING THAT. [LAUGHTER] I'M WAITING FOR THAT ON EVERYBODY THAT SITS DOWN HERE. >> I'M GOING TO SIT WAY OVER HERE JUST IN CASE. >> DANIEL, EXPLAIN. IS THIS THE LAND THAT WE AGONIZED OVER, NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT WE SPENT MEETING AFTER MEETING, TALKING ABOUT ON SPORTSMAN AND PUTTING A BOAT RAMP ON? >> THIS IS ONE THAT IS TO THE EAST, I BELIEVE, OF THAT ONE, BUT IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION. THERE'S NO BOAT RAMP, BUT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE ONE OF THE WHOLE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAYS BETWEEN SPORTSMAN AND THE BAY IS DEAD ENDS INTO THE WATER. [02:20:04] IT'S NOT THE SAME ONE, BUT IT'S IN THAT WHEELHOUSE. >> THAT'S ALL I NEED TO ANSWER. THANK YOU. >> I COULD ANSWER ONE. THERE WAS ONE PERSON OF CONCERN IN THIS, WHICH WAS TREY D BRO AND I TALKED WITH HIM YESTERDAY, AND HE HAS ACTUALLY HIS AREA OF CONCERN ON HIS PROPERTY. HE ONE OF THE ADJACENT OWNERS BOUGHT IT SO THERE ARE NO CONCERNS. >> WONDERFUL TO HEAR. THANK YOU, DANIEL. THAT WAS EASY. VERY GOOD. WE'RE MOVING THAT ALONG. LET'S MOVE ITEM 3C, PLEASE. >> ITEM 3C. DISCUSSION OF ALLOCATING $600,000 FROM THE CITY'S HOT RESERVE FUND TO THE PARK BOARD FOR A PROMOTIONAL AND MARKETING PARTNERSHIP PACKAGE WITH THE FIFA WORLD CUP 26 HOUSTON HOST CITY COMMITTEE. >> STAFF, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. [3.C Discussion of allocating $600,000 from the City’s HOT Reserve Fund to the Park Board for a promotional and marketing partnership package with the FIFA World Cup 26 Houston™ Host City Committee” (M Miles/B Brown/C Brown/M. Robb - 20 min)] >> COME ON, MARTY. WE DON'T BITE. THERE YOU GO. >> IF I HERE YOU ORDINARY, I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT CUPCAKES OR SOMETHING. >> YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD? TONY, COME ON UP AND HAVE A SIT. >> MARTY MILES WITH GALVESTON PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES. >> TONY? >> GOOD MORNING. I'M EMET BROWN. >> CITY COUNCIL. TONY LYLE, FOR THE RECORD, PARK BOARD. >> WE HAVE BEFORE US, WE HAVE A REQUEST, I KNOW, AND WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING INFORMATION. MARTY AND TONY, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD. >> SURE. THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO WHAT WE WANT TO PRESENT TODAY. ONE IS THE OPPORTUNITY WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A FEW MONTHS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE THINK SPECTACULAR. THE OTHER ONE IS THEN HOW TO FUND IT. TONY'S IS GOING TO DEAL WITH THE OPPORTUNITY AND WHAT IT CAN DO FOR US TO INCREASE TAX AND PUT US ON THE MAP INTERNATIONAL. >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION. >> I HAVE IT. >> SOME BACKGROUND AND SOME CONTEXT. AS YOU ALL AWARE, THE LARGEST SPORTING EVENT IN THE WORLD IS COMING TO THE UNITED STATES WITH NORTH AMERICA NEXT YEAR, AND HOUSTON IS ONE OF THE HOST CITIES. THE REASON THAT WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOU GETTING THIS ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY AND TONIGHT IS THAT THERE IS THE TIME SENSITIVE NATURE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY. ON DECEMBER THE 5TH, THEY WILL DO THE DRAW. CURRENTLY, WE KNOW WHAT THE GROUPS ARE AND WHERE THOSE GROUP GAMES WILL BE PLAYED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHICH COUNTRIES, AND WHICH TEAMS. OBVIOUSLY, WHEN ON DECEMBER 5TH, THAT DRAW WILL HAPPEN, AND WE ANTICIPATE SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY STARTING DECEMBER THE 6TH. WHEN THE GROUPS WILL KNOW WHERE EVERYONE'S PLAYING, THEN IT GOES TO THE BRACKETS. OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S PLAYING IN THE BRACKETS YET UNTIL THEY FINISHED WITH THE GROUPS. AROUND NORTH AMERICA, IN CANADA, THE US, AND MEXICO, WE KNOW WHERE THE TOURNAMENT GAMES ARE GOING TO PLAY. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, EACH TEAM HAS A HOME BASE. FOR EXAMPLE, IN HOUSTON, HOUSTON'S GOING TO HOST SEVEN GAMES, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE THE HOST FOR ONE OF THE COUNTRY TEAMS. THOSE HOST GROUNDS, THEY HAVE TRAINING GROUNDS AND THEY HAVE HOTELS. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE COUNTRY WILL BE TRAINING AND LIVING IN HOUSTON. THREE DAYS BEFORE A GAME, THEY'D FLY TO KANSAS CITY. THEY WOULD TRAIN AGAIN, SO THERE'S ANOTHER TRAINING FACILITY. THEY'LL GO AND PLAY THE GAME AND THEN COME BACK TO THEIR HOST BASE, IF YOU LIKE. SO VERY MUCH LIKE FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL, DURING TRAINING SEASON, PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW THEIR TEAMS AND THEY'LL WANT TO SEE THEM TRAIN, IN ADDITION TO GOING INTO THE GAME. THERE'S LOTS OF RESEARCH OUT THAT I'M GOING TO GET INTO SOME IN A MOMENT ON MY PRESENTATION. BUT HISTORICALLY, THESE OPPORTUNITIES ARE VIEWED AS A MARKETING OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLYMPICS AND PREVIOUS WORLD CUP'S, THE ACTUAL YEAR OF THE EVENT, SURE WE'LL SEE AN UPLIFT IN BUSINESS, BUT REALLY THE LIFT IS IN THE SECOND AND THIRD AND THE FOURTH YEAR. WE ARE GETTING INTO THAT CONSIDERATION SET FOR THE FUTURE BY GAINING EXPOSURE THROUGH THIS OPPORTUNITY. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S THREE DAYS BETWEEN GAMES IN HOUSTON, AND WHAT ARE PEOPLE GOING TO DO? YOU LOOK AT THE FANATICALS, SOCCER PLAYERS, THEY'RE JUST FANATICS. THERE'S ALL STORIES OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING TO WATCH PREVIOUS GAMES CHARTERING PLANES, [02:25:02] EVEN SOME OF THEM WITHOUT TICKETS. THE EVENT, THE FAN FEST THAT EXISTS OUTSIDE IS ACTUALLY THERE'S MORE CAPACITY THAN ACTUALLY IN THE STADIUM THEMSELVES. WE SEE OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY TO GET COMPRESSION FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE WANT TO STAY FOR A MONTH. SERIOUSLY, PEOPLE WILL COME FOR A MONTH AND THEN TOUR AROUND ALL THE DIFFERENT GAMES. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. BUT THEN WITHIN THOSE THREE DAYS AS WELL, WHAT ARE PEOPLE GOING TO DO? WE WANT THEM TO COME DOWN TO GALVESTON. WE'RE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES WITH HOT TAX, BUT ALSO A SALES TAX AS WELL. WE'VE WORKED WITH BRAND USA, WHICH IS THE NATION'S DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATION. THEY'RE BIG IN ON THE WORLD CUP. WE GALVESTON ARE FEATURED IN TWO ITINERARIES OF WHAT TO DO WITHIN THE THREE DAYS IN BETWEEN THE HOUSTON GAMES, BUT ALSO WHAT TO DO ON ROAD TRIP. SO INCORPORATING THE COAST ALL THE WAY FROM NEW ORLEANS TO UP TO GALVESTON, AND THEN BACK TO HOUSTON. IT'S GETTING THAT EXPOSURE OUT THERE AHEAD OF TIME. WE HAVE A LANDING PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL THINGS WORLD CUP, BUT IT'S SO HIGHLY REGULATED, WE CAN'T USE CERTAIN TERMINOLOGY IN CERTAIN WORDS. WE CAN'T USE THE WORD FIFA, FOR EXAMPLE. >> THAT'S TRADEMARKED. >> YEAH. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY REGULATED SPORTS OUT THERE. THINK OF FORMULA 1 AND NFL AND THE WORLD CUP. IT IS A PAY-TO-PLAY SITUATION AND THIS OPPORTUNITY WOULD GIVE US THAT. WE'VE HAD TO USE OUR CREATIVE WRITING IN ORDER TO HAVE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT WILL APPEAR IN SEARCH RESULTS WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE WORLD CUP IN OUR REGION. BUT THERE'S CERTAIN WORDS WE CAN'T USE AT THE MOMENT. I CAN FLICK THROUGH SLIDES. >> ARE THEY GOING TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD US? >> SOME OF THEM. I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, BUT THERE'LL BE THINGS. >> I CAN HELP MAYBE. I'VE MET WITH MARTY ON THIS BECAUSE IT COMES RIGHT DOWN TO IT. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DISAGREES THIS ISN'T A GOOD THING. I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW YOU PAY FOR IT. THEY'RE ASKING FOR $600,000 FROM THE CITY THAT'S HELD IN OUR HOT RESERVE FUND. MARTY KNOWS I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. THAT'S THE MONEY WE'RE HOLDING FOR STEWART BEACH. JUST REMEMBER THAT. THE OTHER THING, IT JUST COMES DOWN TO, IS THIS 100% OF CITY PARTICIPATION? DOES THE PARK BOARD USE SOME OF THEIR RESERVES AS WELL? THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO COUNCIL ON THOSE QUESTIONS TO ASK. I WILL QUALIFY IT WITH THAT THIS FUND SINCE WE'VE HELD IT HAS EARNED SOME AN INTEREST. THIS WOULD DEPLETE THAT INTEREST. BUT SO IT WOULDN'T TAKE THE CORPUS OF YOUR MONEY THAT YOU'VE BEEN HOLDING. HOWEVER, WE WERE COUNTING ON SOME OF THAT INTEREST TO FOR I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN, MARTY, FOR STEWART BEACH. I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU GUYS. >> HOW MUCH IS IN THE FUND NOW? >> ABOUT 15 MILLION. >> YEAH, I'D SAY 16. >> CLOSE TO 16. I THINK IT'S I LOOKED AT IT THE OTHER DAY, BUT WE'RE NOT UPDATING IT WITH INTEREST. >> THE 600,000, IS THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THIS PROJECT FOR THIS MARKETING PROGRAM? >> THAT IS THE CONTRACTUAL AMOUNT. WE WILL THEN SPEND MORE [NOISE] NOT COMING BACK TO THIS FUNDING SOURCE AND USE IT MORE OUT OF OTHER SOURCES, AS WELL AS FOR EVENTS. I THINK WE ANTICIPATE ON LOTS OF EVENTS. THOSE EVENTS, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT MANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIPS FOR ADDITIONAL SPONSORS. I THINK THE WHARF BOARD MIGHT HAVE A BIG INTEREST IN BEING REPRESENTED. VIEWING I DON'T YOU KNOW EVENTS. >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IT COULD BE VIEWING EVENTS, IT COULD JUST BE LITERALLY THEMED PARTIES. BRINGING PEOPLE IN FROM THE OUTSIDE. >> HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THOSE EVENTS? >> WE WILL. >> COME OUT OF THE PARK PORTS RESERVE? >> YES. >> THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF MOVING PARTS FOR HERE. IT'S MY JOB JUST TO TELL YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP SAYING STEWART BEACH, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A HIGH PRIORITY, AND THIS IS A GOOD THING. BUT YOU HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS HERE. THEY'RE ALL GOOD OPTIONS. I JUST WANT TO CLICK OUT THERE TOO. >> IT'S ITEM 12A AS AN ACTION ITEM THIS AFTERNOON. WE HAVE MARIE. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE BEEN FULLY BRIEFED ON THIS WITH THE HCAC AND THE TBC. THIS IS THE BIGGEST THING THAT'S PROBABLY EVER HAPPENED TO TEXAS, PERIOD. IF IT HAPPENS TO BE TEAMS LIKE ARGENTINA AND MEXICO THAT COME, IT'S GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN BIG. WE ACTUALLY ALLOTED MONEY AT THE TPC FOR A MOBILITY STUDY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW BIG IT IS. [02:30:05] I 100% SUPPORT THE 600,000. I WISH YOU WERE ASKING FOR A MILLION BECAUSE I WOULD WHOLLY SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE AS MUCH OPPORTUNITY OUT OF THIS AS WE CAN. >> ALEX. >> ABOUT TO TELL YOU YOUR JOB, BUT WHEN WE DID THE TOUR OF THE TERMINAL 16, I THINK BOB AND I SAID THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR A SUPER BOWL VIEWING PARTY AT THE CHECK IN AREA, SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO LOOK AT FOR A VIP VIEWING PARTY. >> JULIO D. LEON, WHO'S MOBILITY DIRECTOR OF VICE PRESIDENT MOBILITY FOR THE PARK. I JUST ADDED HIM TO THE GALVESTON HOTEL AND LODGING ASSOCIATION BOARD. THEY'RE ALREADY STARTED TO TALK ABOUT HOW COULD WE HELP THEM AND HOW COULD THE PARK BOARD HELP THEM BOOK THAT SPACE? >> IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO THAT. >> WHAT DAYS ARE WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THIS? >> MID JUNE TO MID JULY. IT'S 21 DAYS. >> SO IT'LL BE THROUGH JULY 4TH AS WELL. SO EVEN OPPORTUNITIES TO COME CELEBRATE FOURTH OF JULY FOR THE 250TH BIRTHDAY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? >> THIS MAKES SUPER BOWL LOOK LIKE A PEANUT. >> IT IS REALLY IS. >> IT'S LIKE INTERNATIONAL FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS. >> WELL, THE OTHER THING WHEN YOU COMPARE SUPER BOWL, SUPER BOWL IS LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S 70,000 IN ATTENDANCE, 60,000 OF THAT IS PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY GUARANTEED TO GET IN. IT'S NOT FANS THAT WANT TO GET THERE. IT'S A REALLY CRAZY TICKET TO GET. >> WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, I'VE SAID THIS WHEN I PRESENTED IT TO OUR TRUSTEES, IT WON'T HAVE AN ROI THIS YEAR. IT WON'T. THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 10,000 HOTEL ROOMS AT $400 EACH TO GET TO 600 GRAND IN. BUT I BELIEVE WHAT IT DOES FOR GALVESTON LONG TERM INTERNATIONALLY IS HUGE. AND WHETHER TONY SAID THAT SECOND AND THIRD YEAR LIKE WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OLYMPICS, I VIEW IT FOR US AS MUCH LONGER THAN THAT. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IF IT WERE MEXICO AND ARGENTINA THAT WERE COMING, IT'S REALLY EASY AND THEY KIND OF KNOW US ALREADY. I'D LOVE IT IF IT'S IF WE GET IRELAND. I WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS. I I WANT IT TO BE PEOPLE THAT KNOW MORE ABOUT GALVESTON THAN THE SONG. I I WANT TO GO TO THE MONEY THING FOR A MINUTE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS TWO FOLD MY A ADDED UP LIKE THAT. PART OF THIS IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THAT $14 MILLION FOR? I WENT BACK WAY BEFORE I WAS INVOLVED IN THE PARK PORT, BUT I HAD A GENUINE INTEREST BECAUSE OF THE HOTEL ASSOCIATION. WHEN THE CITY TOOK IT TO BECOME A BETTER STEWARD THAN THE PARKPART WAS, IT WAS TOLD IT WAS AVAILABLE TO US JUST ASK. IT'S IN VIDEO. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT'S THAT EASY AND I GET IT BUT IF IF NOT, WHAT IS IT? MY OPINION IS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU DO RESERVES. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN CREATE RESERVES IS TO UNDERSPEND OUR BUDGET. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE COULD CREATE A RESERVE. THERE'S NO CHANCE THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS BACK UP. THIS IS A ONE TIME NON REOCCURRING EXPENSE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THAT AS AN OUTSIDER LOOKING IN AND NOW AS AN INSIDER LOOKING DEEPER, I THOUGHT THAT'S EXACTLY THE 14 MILLION WAS FOUR, WHICH IS NOW CLOSER TO 16. HAVING SAID THAT, DO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO EARMARK FOR STEWART BEACH? I GET IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND IT. I'D LOVE TO KNOW THAT YOU COME TALK TO ME WHEN YOU WANT TO WE WILL WANT TO I KNOW MONEY IT IS. I KNOW HOW IT WAS DERIVED, AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT WILL BE TO OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WHO FRANKLY I CARE THE MOST ABOUT AT THIS POINT. WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR OUR CIVILIANS. CITIZENS? >> MARTY, LET ME SAY THIS. I DON'T THINK I'M SPEAKING FOR COUNSEL, BUT I PROBABLY AM. THIS IS A ONE AND LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY FOR US. WE NEED TO JUMP ON THIS WITH CO FEET. TAKING 600,000 OUT OVER THE RESERVES THAT WE HAVE OVER HERE, IT'S A PERFECT USE FOR THEM. I PERSONALLY AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, FEEL FREE TO. >> THERE'S A PIECE OF THAT I WANT TO GO THROUGH. I CAN DO IT VERBALLY. >> LET'S DO THAT AND THEN BECAUSE GOING THROUGH THIS OTHER, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING TO INQUIRER HERE. >> JUST MAKE ONE OBSERVATION HERE. THE $600,000 IS NOT ALL IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. THAT'S RIGHT. THE PARK BOARD I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVEN HAVE A BUDGET FOR IT YET OR NOT, THE PARK BOARD IS IS GOING TO BE TAKING THAT, OPPORTUNITY AND CREATING MORE EVENTS AND ACTIVITY AND SPONSORS. [02:35:05] THEY DO HAVE A STAKE IN IT. IT'S NOT AS THOUGH THEY'RE JUST ASKING US FOR ALL THE MONEY. THEY GOT A STAKE IN THIS AND LEVERAGING THAT MONEY, I THINK. > DEPENDING ON WHICH TEAM. DO WE KNOW THE SUBSET OF TEAMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH? >> NOT YET, OR IS IT DECEMBER 5TH. COMPLETE LOOK AT THE DRAG. >> AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO TALK TO OUR HOTELS. GO LOOK AT THE RATES FOR A HOTEL RIGHT NOW. FOR THOSE DATES ON DECEMBER 5, WHICH IS THE DATE IT'S ANNOUNCED. THEY'RE THEY'RE AT A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE NOT GO TO LEAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THAT DAY IS WHEN IT'LL START GETTING BOOKED. IT'S CRAZY. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE I JUST I LOVE THIS ONE, SO I TELL EVERYBODY WHEN I GET EXCITED. THE COUNTRY OF PRU LAST ONE,, SENT 40,000 PEOPLE TO THE BASE THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE A TICKET TO A GAME. IT IT'S THAT BIG A DEAL. WHERE THEY STAYED, WHERE THE CITY THEY PICKED MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN WHERE THEY EVER PLAYED. IT'S JUST GETTING INTO TEXAS. >> THAT IT'S FAST. >> IT REALLY IS FAST. >> THE PIECE I WANT TO SHARE, SIR. >> LET'S LET'S SHARE THAT PIECE, AND THEN WE'LL YES, SIR. WHAT'S THE LAST PIECE HERE? >> THE LAST PIECE IS YOU DON'T GET ANY TICKETS. I'M DEAD SERIOUS. SOMEBODY VERY CLOSE TO THIS ORGANIZATION WHO'S SITTING AT THAT END OF THE TABLE. SID MILES, BE CAREFUL WITH THE TICKETS. PART OF THE SPONSORSHIP IS TEN TICKETS TO EACH GAME OR 70 TICKETS. >> SEVENTY TICKETS, IS THAT HERE? >> TEN TO EACH GAME. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT TONY HAS DEVELOPED THERE IS POLICY THAT SAYS, THIS IS GOLD, AND IT'LL BE USED FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES ONLY, WILL NOT BE USED FOR PARKPART EMPLOYEES, CITY EMPLOYEES, TRUSTEES OR COUNCIL MEMBERS. ANYWAY, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IN MY MIND, THAT'S GOLD, AND IT WILL BE USED. IT'LL BE CONTROLLED,. >> NINETTY PERCENT, OF OUR CONVERSATION. THE MONEY PART WAS EASY. IT WAS 90% OF OUR CONVERSATION WAS THAT? >> THAT WAS THAT IS SO GOOD THAT YOU DID THAT. MARTY, THANK YOU. WELL, BRIAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT IS FANTASTIC. >> IF YOU CAN BRING A DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO DO $1 BILLION PROJECT, WE'LL PUT YOU ON THE LIST. >> I'M SORRY. I MEAN, THAT'S HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TICKETS. >> INTERESTING EVEN TO DO SOME PROMOTIONAL THINGS. YOU HAVE TO BE STAYING IN A HOTEL IN GALVESTON FOR MORE THAN THREE NIGHTS TO BE ELIGIBLE TO GO INTO A LOTTERY FOR TWO TICKETS. >> MARIA IS SO CATHOLIC, I GET THIS. THERE'S A RAFFLE. SPIN THE WHEEL. >> YOU COULD USE IT. >> MY WIFE. COUNSEL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR BOB. WE PUSHED THIS UP TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA RIGHTLY. FANTASTIC. THIS IS WHAT THIS MONEY IS FOR. IT WILL HAVE BENEFITS FOR THIS ISLAND FOR YEARS TO COME. I APPRECIATE THAT, VERY. >> WELL, THAT PARTICULAR TEAM PRACTICE IN GALVESTON AS WELL? OR IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF THAT OR. >> THAT'S ALL PART OF WITH THE BASES, THEY LOOK HOW THE DRAW GOES, AND THEN THEY'LL INTELLIGENTLY GO WHERE THE TEAM IS PLAYING IN MORE ON THE EAST COAST OR THE WEST COAST WE BASE BASE THERE JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY. >> REMEMBER, WE HAVE A BRAND NEW SOCCER FIELD. >> YES, WE DO. >> BRAND NEW PROFESSION ON SOCCER FIELD WITH LADIES. >> I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING UPDATES AS AS THIS MATURES AND GOES FORWARD REGULAR UPDATES ON THIS TO SEE HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THAT MONEY. >> MARTY MARTY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN ACCOUNTING FOR THE MONEY, AND THEY'LL REPORT HOW IT GOT USED. >> WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FAST. I MEAN, IT'S IN THERE. WE NEED TO CUT A CHECK FOR 300,000 LIKE THIS WEEK AND THEN THE OTHER 300,000 JANUARY 1ST. BUT WE ALSO FOR NOW THAT WE IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THIS MIGHT GET APPROVED BY ALL. WE GOT TO GO TO WORK FAST. THERE'S SO MUCH WORK TO BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE. FRANKLY, IT'S NOT JUNE. WE NEED TO BE DONE WITH THIS BY APRIL. >> COMPARABLY, MARTY, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, WHO ARE SOME OTHER PARTICIPANTS AROUND THAT HAVE DONE SIMILAR INVESTMENTS LIKE THIS? >> SUGAR LAND. >> SUGAR LAND PAID $2.5 MILLION AS THE LEAD. THEY'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT THEY ARE THE MAC DADDY SPONSOR. THEY ALREADY STARTING YOU'LL START SEEING IT. YOU'LL START SEEING SUGAR LAND'S NAME ON EVERYTHING ABOUT WORLD CUP IN HOUSTON RIGHT NOW. >> WHO WAS THE OTHER ONE? >> THAT WAS THAT WAS THE TOP LEVEL ONE AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE SPACE FOR THAT. SUGAR LAND SNAPPED THAT UP. THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN STARTED AT 1.25 MILLION. [02:40:03] THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE STARTED HAVING WITH THEM. ULTIMATELY, THEY CAME BACK WITH THE 600,000 SO HALF OF THAT. >> THIS IS A HOUSTON, IS IT BOMAN. I MEAN, IS THERE OTHER PLACES THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING? >> I HAVE TO ALL WORK THROUGH. YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> IS THERE A LIMITATION ON HOW MANY THEY TAKE? >> I WILL LEVEL. I'M NOT SURE. BUT AT THAT TOP LEVEL, THERE'S JUST ONE. >> THEY ARE A MONEY MOTIVATED ORGANIZATION AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'LL LIMIT. >> WACO WANTS IN, THEY'LL PUT THEM IN IT SO I GUESS I WAS THINKING THAT I WAS THINKING TEAM ASSIGNMENT IF THERE'S LIKE 12 TEAMS THAT HAVE THE REMOTE POSSIBILITY OF BEING THIS AREA, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE 12 SPONSORSHIP LEVELS. >> I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW GOOD HOST THAT WORKS. >> HOUSTON AND HARRIS COUNTY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR THE LAST TWO, THREE YEARS. >> THEY'RE COMPLETELY REDEVELOPING TO FOR THIS. >> WHAT'S THE CLOSEST OTHER HOST CITY OUT OF THE 16? >> DALLAS? >> YEAH. >> NOT SUGAR LAND. >> THEY'RE DOING WHAT WE DO. THEY'RE THE TITLE SPONSOR AND WE'LL BE. >> I SEE. I GET THAT PART. COLLINGTON. >> THIS IS DIFFERENT FOR MANY OTHER WORLD CUPS 'CAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING FIVE COUNTRIES, I THINK. >> THREE. >> THREE COUNTRIES AND MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. >> BIG 17 LOCATIONS AND THREE COUNTRIES. >> THAT SHOWS YOU HOW BIG IT IS. >> IT'S HUGE. >> VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU, GUYS. I WANTED THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S ON OUR AGENDA TO SAY. >> EMAIL US THAT PRESENTATION? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I DON'T KNOW. >> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR TICKETS? >> HE WANTS TO READ THE POLICY. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] THAT ONE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNSEL, I NEED TO GET SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU. LUNCH HAS JUST BEEN HAS ARRIVED. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE TO CONSIDER. I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH ITEM 3 D E AND F. THEN WE CAN MOVE INTO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE COULD HAVE LUNCH AT THAT POINT AND COME BACK UP AND FINISH. BUT I'M OPEN TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. >> HOW ABOUT 3E AND F? COME BACK BECAUSE I THINK D IS GOING TO LAST A PRETTY GOOD TIME, DON'T YOU THINK? >> D'S GOING TO BE. >> LONG. >> THAT'S FINE WITH ME. WE CAN PUT D WE CAN DO THREE E AND F, THEN BREAK. COME BACK FOR THE OTHERS, IF YOU LIKE. >> JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE, 3E. IF WE GO TO GET TO G, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE WHAT EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN BASICALLY WE CAN GET RID OF H. WELL, H WOULD BE FAIRLY QUICK. >> IT IS GOING TO THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET FOR H PRETTY MUCH IN YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> PROBABLY SO. COUNSEL, WHAT I HEAR YOU, LET'S DO THREE E AND F, WE'LL BREAK AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COME BACK. LET'S DO 3E, PLEASE, MA'AM. >> ITEM 3E. DISCUSSION RELATED TO DRAFT FUND BALANCE POLICY. >> VERY GOOD. WE HAVE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR CHILOUT LADONE WITH US. >> IT'S SUCH A LONG TABLE. [3.E Discussion related to Draft Fund Balance Policy. (Ludanyi - 20 min)] >> IT IS A LONG TABLE. WE DON'T WRITE. >> ALL THE SOIRS. >> WE NEED T SHIRTS. >> I BROUGHT COPIES OF THE POLICY IN CASE ANYONE WANTS A PAPER COPY. >> I HAVE ONE. >> AS I NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND AS WE DISCUSSED DURING THE BUDGET BY THE WAY, I'M CHI LUDAI, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON. SORRY, I GOT AHEAD OF MY PHONE. AS WE DISCUSSED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, COUNSEL WAS INTERESTED IN COMING UP WITH SOME POLICY GOALS FOR THE FUND BALANCES FOR VARIOUS FUNDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND SO THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THAT REQUEST. AS COUNSEL KNOWS, WITH THE FY 26 BUDGET, WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO FUND BALANCE FOR THE GARAGE FUND BALANCE AS WELL AS THE IT FUND BALANCE, BOTH INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. THE DRAFT POLICY WAS PREPARED TO BE PRESENTED TO THE FISCAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER, BUT THERE WAS NO QUORUM FOR THAT MEETING, AND SO THEY HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON THE DISCUSSION. WE WILL PRESENT IT TO THEM AT THEIR NEXT MEETING FOR THEIR REVIEW AS WELL, BUT I WANTED COUNSEL TO BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. FUND BALANCES AND RESERVE FUNDS ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON MANAGED BY OUR CHARTER. [02:45:02] THE FINANCE SECTION, WHICH IS SECTION ARTICLE 7. SECTION 9 A IS APPROPRIATION SPEAKS TO HOW FUND BALANCES ARE APPROPRIATED IN THE CITY FROM YEAR TO YEAR. ADDITIONALLY, A LOT OF OUR FUNDING SOURCES SUCH AS HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX OR GRANTS, THAT THING, HAVE STATUTORY OR CONTRACTUAL RESTRICTIONS FOR MAINTAINING CERTAIN FUND BALANCES AND RESERVE FUNDS. THIS WOULD INCLUDE IF WE EVER ISSUE DEBT WHERE THERE'S DEBT COVENANTS THAT REQUIRE CERTAIN FUND BALANCES TO ENSURE THAT DEBT. AND THEN FINALLY, GASB, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BOARD. THEIR PRIMARY ROLE IS TO HELP GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES REPORT THEIR FINANCIALS IN A WAY THAT IS COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES. GASB STATEMENT 54 SETS STANDARDS FOR HOW FUND BALANCE IS REPORTED WITHIN AN ORGANIZATION. IN CONSIDERATION OF ALL OF THAT, THE BUDGET TEAM DID SOME RESEARCH. WE LOOKED AT FUND BALANCE POLICIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE STATUTORY GUIDELINES AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM GASB, AND WE HAVE COME UP WITH A DRAFT POLICY. IT IS JUST A DRAFT AT THIS POINT. I AM HERE FOR ANY SORT OF FEEDBACK THAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE. SHOULD WE DECIDE WE DON'T NEED A POLICY, WE WILL CONTINUE DOING THE THINGS THE CITY HAS HISTORICALLY DONE. BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON NOT TO HAVE A GOOD POLICY REGARDING FUND BALANCE. I THINK THERE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO WEIGH IN ON SUCH AS HOW WE MANAGE THAT FUND BALANCE LEVEL IN CERTAIN FUNDS FROM YEAR TO YEAR OR OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. THE FIRST PART OF THE POLICY SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY TO THE GASB REPORTING, AND IT SETS OUT THOSE ACCOUNTING DEFINITIONS THAT ARE SET OUT IN GASB STATEMENT NUMBER 54. THIS IS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED IN THE CITY, AND THE AUDITORS EVERY YEAR WHEN THEY PREPARE YOUR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORTS, REPORT FUND BALANCE ACCORDING TO THESE DEFINITIONS AND CATEGORIES. THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER ARE NON SPENDABLE FUND BALANCE, WHICH WOULD BE INVENTORY, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S NOT MONEY THAT CAN BE MOVED AROUND. >> MIT ASSET. >> YES. RESTRICTED. >> FOR THE PUBLIC? >> YEAH. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT HOW YOU EITHER GET TO NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE FUND BALANCE, AND THE NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE MAY NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S INSOLVENT. IT'S JUST ASSETS OVER LIABILITIES. CAN YOU JUST KIND OF GO OVER THAT FOR THE PUBLIC? >> SURE. ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE IN ANY OF OUR FUNDS HERE, BUT THERE MIGHT BE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THAT WOULD COME TO PASS. >> CASUALTY LIABILITY OR IS THAT THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND? >> IT WAS THE LIABILITY INSURANCE FUND. NO. HOPEFULLY, NOT THE HEALTH INSURANCE SORRY. WE ARE SELF INSURED FOR HEALTH INSURANCE AND ACTUALLY HAS THE LARGEST FUND BALANCE IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF THAT. IT'S ESSENTIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE BENEFITS THAT WE, PROVIDE FOR OUR EMPLOYEE SINCE WE PROVIDE THAT FUNDING. THE LIABILITY INSURANCE OR IN THIS PAST YEAR, WORKERS' COMP INSURANCE, THERE WERE SITUATIONS WHERE WE SPENT MORE MONEY THAN WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO SPEND, AND WE SPENT DOWN THAT FUND BALANCE TO ENSURE THAT OUR INSURANCE OBLIGATIONS WERE MET IN THOSE WORKERS' COMP SITUATIONS. THERE ARE THAT'S A FANTASTIC EXAMPLE OF A SITUATION WHERE THAT FUND BALANCE SERVED ITS PURPOSE. OUR COSTS WERE GREATER THAN WE ANTICIPATED. OUR JOB AT THAT POINT IS TO BRING THAT FUND BALANCE BACK UP AS WELL AS TO BUDGET ACCORDING TO THOSE NEW TRENDS. >> AS YOU MENTIONED, SO FUND BALANCE WOULD BE DEPLETED WHEN YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE GREATER THAN YOUR REVENUE AND THEN YOU'RE SPENDING DOWN YOUR FUND BALANCE TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE. THROUGHOUT THE POLICY, WE REFER TO THE BEST PRACTICES FOR DOING THAT, SO THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE TALK ABOUT MOST HERE IN GALVESTON BECAUSE WE'RE AN ISLAND, AND WE'VE HAD HURRICANES, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE COSTS THAT WE COULD INCUR THAT ARE JUST NOT COST YOU CAN BUDGET FOR. BUT THERE'S OTHER ONE-TIME COSTS OR INVESTMENTS THAT COULD IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND DECREASE OPERATIONAL COSTS IN THE FUTURE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN STRATEGICALLY DO WITH EXTRA FUND BALANCE THAT IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE ORGANIZATION TO CONSIDER. THE CONCERN COMES IN, AND WE REFER TO THAT IN THE VERY END OF THE POLICY IS YOU DON'T WANT TO USE THOSE ONE-TIME SOURCES OF MONEY TO FUND ONGOING OPERATIONS, BECAUSE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS YOU'VE ONE TIME PAID FOR THOSE OPERATIONS, [02:50:03] AND NOW YOU HAVE TO FILL THAT DEFICIT AND ANY OTHER GROWTH. IT IS BEST TO USE THOSE ONE TIME SOURCES OF BALANCE FOR ONE-TIME PROJECTS THAT HELP YOU GET TO YOUR LARGER GOALS. >> WOULD YOU USE THAT MONEY TO LEVERAGE GRANTS TOO? >> ABSOLUTELY. SOMETIMES GRANT MATCHES ARE A GREAT WAY TO USE YOUR FUND BALANCE IF YOU HAVE SOME EXTRA FUND BALANCE. >> IN CASH. >> YES. CORRECT. OBVIOUSLY NOT THE INVENTORY. >> YOU HAVE MORE AT THE END OF THE YEAR THEN IT WILL ROLLS OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR. >> YES. WITH GRANTS OR WITH THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, YOU ARE STATUTORILY REQUIRED OR CONTRACTUALLY REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THOSE BALANCES WITH THE REVENUE STREAM RESTRICTIONS. BY CHARTER, THE WAY THE CITY MANAGES FUND BALANCES IS IF THE COUNCIL HAS ALLOCATED THE MONEY IN A SPECIFIC FUND FOR A YEAR, THAT IS WHERE WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT MONEY YEAR OVER YEAR UNLESS COUNSEL MAKES A DECISION TO DO OTHERWISE. BUT THE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS COUNSEL'S PURPOSE IN BUDGETING THAT MONEY WAS TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING. A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT IS CIP, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU APPROVE A PROJECT IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND YOU FUND IT, AND YOU DON'T FINISH IT IN ONE YEAR. IT WOULD BE VERY DETRIMENTAL TO COMPLETING THAT CAPITAL PROJECT IF ANYBODY OTHER THAN COUNCIL WERE TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE PULLING THAT FUNDING BACK AND WE'RE MOVING IT OVER. THERE ARE BALANCES THAT WILL CARRY FORWARD TO ACCOMPLISH LONGER TERM PROJECTS OR THE PURPOSES BEHIND A SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCE AND IT IS THE CITY'S POLICY TO ALWAYS MAINTAIN THOSE FUND BALANCES WHERE THEY WERE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED. >> IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND FOR THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW UNDER YOUR GENERAL FUND, FUND BALANCE, WE TALK ABOUT THE MINIMUM IN OUR CHARTER OF 90 DAYS. YOU MENTIONED THE TARGET FUND BALANCE IS 33% CURRENT EXPENSES IN THE GENERAL FUND. COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS, TARGET FUND BALANCE? >> AS I STATED, STATUTORILY, OUR CHARTER SAYS 90 DAYS IS YOUR MINIMUM FUND BALANCE SO IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE STAY ABOVE THAT 90 DAY FUND BALANCE. IF WE DON'T, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CASE OF A HURRICANE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO BRING THAT FUND BALANCE BACK UP TO THE 90 DAYS AS APPROPRIATE. THE TARGET FUND BALANCE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN STATED BY COUNSEL MANY TIMES. IT IS THE TARGET THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY CITY MANAGEMENT AS WELL TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 120 DAYS BASED ON THE RISKS THAT WE SEE AS BEING APPLICABLE HERE IN GALVESTON. BUT IN BETWEEN THAT, BETWEEN THAT 90 AND 120 DAYS, WE'RE NOT OUTSIDE OF COMPLIANCE WITH ANY OF OUR STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. IT'S JUST OUR GOAL WOULD BE HIGHER THAN THE 90 DAYS. >> WHAT IS OUR FUND BALANCE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? >> THE FY 26 BUDGET IS AT 109 DAYS FUND BALANCE. >> ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, UNDER THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND RESERVE. MAINTAINING ON THE CENTRAL SERVICES FUND, MAINTAINING 500,000 OVER A FIVE-YEAR. THAT'S AN AVERAGE. >> IT'S AN AVERAGE. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE GET TO FUND BALANCE, IT'S NEVER AN EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT AND SO THE IDEA WOULD BE IS IF WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF FUND BALANCE, YOU TAKE THE AVERAGE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND IT SHOULD BE $500,000 OR IN THAT BALLPARK. >> IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, ARE WE WITHIN THAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE HAVE NOT DECREASED IT TO THAT LEVEL YET. IN THE CENTRAL SERVICES FUND AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, WE TOOK $300,000 OR MAYBE IT'S REVERSED AND GARAGE, WE TOOK $500,000. I THINK IT WAS RESERVED. IT WAS REVERSED SO WE TOOK 800,000 TOTAL. PART OF THAT IS THAT SMOOTHING EFFECT IS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A GIANT HOLE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO FILL IN THE GENERAL FUND OR ANY OF THE OTHER FUNDS WHEN THOSE FUNDING OFFSETS AREN'T THERE ANYMORE, THAT REIMBURSEMENT. ESSENTIALLY WE DIDN'T CHARGE THE DEPARTMENTS. WHEN WE GET TO CHARGING THE DEPARTMENTS, IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A HUGE JUMP, AND THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, WHY DID COSTS GO UP THAT MUCH. THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE THEY DIDN'T. WE WERE JUST BUYING THEM DOWN WITH FUND BALANCE THIS WHOLE TIME. IN ORDER FOR THAT EFFECT TO BE NOT AS DRAMATIC, WE ARE BUYING IT DOWN OVER TWO TO THREE YEAR PERIOD, DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT FUND BALANCE SITS AS WE'RE PLANNING OUT THE BUDGET. >> THEN THE EXCESS FUND BALANCE ON YOUR LAST TITLE ON THERE, THE EXCESS FUND BALANCE. WAS THAT FOLLOWED IN THIS CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET, [02:55:01] THE WAY WE MANAGE THAT? >> THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW DIFFERENT. >> IT'S A VERY SIMILAR APPROACH TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, BUT OBVIOUSLY, THIS PAST YEAR'S BUDGET, THERE WAS NO POLICY. THIS IS JUST GENERALLY AROUND THAT. I WOULD SAY BECAUSE WE ARE BUYING DOWN ONGOING COSTS, WHAT WE DID THIS PAST YEAR DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH THIS. BECAUSE THE COSTS THAT WE'RE BUYING DOWN ARE RECURRING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL COSTS, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT SMOOTHING, IS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A GIANT ONE-YEAR DECREASE IN THE COST OF, LET'S SAY, IT AND THEN NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT UP PLUS ANY ADDITIONAL. THE APPROACH WE TOOK THIS YEAR BENEFITS THE DEPARTMENTS. IT BENEFITED THE GENERAL FUND THIS YEAR, BUT IT DOESN'T EXACTLY ALIGN WITH WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED HERE AND HOW BEST TO SPEND THOSE MONIES. >> THANK YOU. QUESTION, JASPER. >> BACK UP A LITTLE BIT TO CLARIFY AS FOR THE PUBLIC, OUR CURRENT 109-DAY RESERVE IT'S NOT 109 DAYS OF OPERATION IN AN EMERGENCY. IT'S 109 DAYS FOR SUNNY DAYS AND WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO IF IN CASE WE HAD A HURRICANE? >> WILL DEPEND ON THE TYPE OF HURRICANE, BOB, I WOULD THINK GIVEN PREVIOUS YEARS, FIVE DAYS, SIX DAYS, DEPENDING ON THE DEBRIS PICK UP. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC THAT IS THINKING ABOUT THIS. IT'S NOT 120 DAYS OF OPERATION OR 109 [OVERLAPPING] EMERGENCY. >> NO. THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT ESPECIALLY RIGHT AFTER AN EMERGENCY, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERTIME AND IT'S 24 HOURS A DAY OVERTIME. THE SALARY COSTS THAT WE HAVE ON A NORMAL SUNNY DAY ARE NOT OVERTIME, AND THEY'RE NOT 24-HOUR DAY OPERATIONS. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU SPENT SO MUCH MONEY SO QUICKLY IS BECAUSE IN THAT TWO-WEEK PERIOD, LET'S SAY, WHERE YOU'RE RESPONDING TO AN EMERGENCY, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU'RE USING TO PAY FOR [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE MONEY WE FUNDED FOR DEBRIS FOR IKE WAS ABOUT 72 MILLION. >> WHICH IS THREE TIMES ABOUT THREE TIMES WHAT WE KEEP IN OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE. >> FOR THE EXCESS FUND BALANCE FOR THAT PART OF THE POLICY. ONE-TIME PROJECTS, CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, AND REFUNDING OF CONTRIBUTIONS. THE REFUNDING OF CONTRIBUTIONS BASICALLY IS A CHARGE BACK? >> YEAH. IT'S WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT IT CHEWING UP. WHY AND JUST MY THOUGHT PROCESS. FOR THE GARAGE, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE 500,000 FOR THE MOST PART. WHY IS THE GARAGE SO JUST A LITTLE LIKE 250 HIGHER? >> THE BIG REASON IS BECAUSE THE GARAGE IS EXPENSES WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG, LIKE A BIG PIECE OF EQUIPMENT GOES DOWN ARE JUST BY ORDER OF MAGNITUDE HIGHER. IF A COUPLE OF COMPUTERS GO DOWN, IT'S NOT GOING TO COST AS MUCH AS IF A BIG GRADER GOES DOWN AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IN THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT FUND BALANCE, IS THAT IF WE NEEDED TO DIP INTO THAT FUND BALANCE IN THE GARAGE, THERE WOULD LIKELY BE HIGHER IMPACT TO THE FUND BALANCE, AND THE COSTS WOULD BE LARGER THAN IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. >> I GUESS WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WITH GLENN'S OFFICE, HAVE WE COMMUNICATED WITH GLENN'S OFFICE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DRAFT FOR THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS ON WHAT THE AMOUNTS LOOK LIKE OR [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE HAVE PROVIDED THEM A COPY OF THE FUND BALANCE POLICY BACK IN SEPTEMBER WHEN WE WERE GOING TO PRESENT IT TO THE FISCAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK YET BUT THEY'VE SEEN IT. >> IN THE CASE OF EMERGENCY THING, AN ITALIAN TOLD ME THIS, AND HE SAID IF MY GRANDMOTHER HAD WHEELS, SHE COULD BE A BICYCLE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT I GUESS HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE OVERAGE OR WHETHER IT BE UNDERSPENDING OR OVERCHARGING, WHICHEVER THE TWO, WHICH CONSERVATIVE FUNDING OR CONSERVATIVE FINANCE PRINCIPLES ARE GOOD. BUT I GUESS JUST MORE COMMUNICATION WITH GLENN'S OFFICE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE REFUNDING OR CHARGING BACK THAT. BUT I THINK THIS IS PRETTY GOOD. I MEAN, MAYBE SOME OF THE AMOUNTS IN MY OPINION ARE A LITTLE HIGH. I REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF'S WORK ON COMING UP WITH SOME GOOD POLICIES FOR OUR CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. >> COULD YOU SUPPLY US WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GOT FROM OTHER CITIES? >> SURE. YEAH, I CAN PROVIDE YOU COPY OF THOSE POLICIES. [03:00:03] ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE IS CITIES ARE VERY DIFFERENT. I MEAN, THEY JUST REALLY ARE. THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT CITIES IS WE'RE ALL TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE TO OUR GEOGRAPHIC AREA SO SOME OF IT TOTALLY DOESN'T APPLY, AND OTHER THINGS WERE VERY APPROPRIATE. BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU THE POLICIES THAT WE REVIEWED AND LOOKED AT FOR HOURS. >> EXCUSE ME. SORRY. I GOT IT. >> VERY GOOD. WHAT WE'LL DO A QUESTION FOR YOU, PLEASE. CHILAR, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, PLEASE SUBMIT IT TO CHILAR. CHILAR, IS IT YOUR PLAN TO HAVE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LOOK AT THIS BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK? >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MEET AT THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER, IN WHICH CASE, YES, THEY WILL REVIEW IT BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. >> YOU'LL BRING IT POSSIBLY FOR THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING. >> YES. COUNCIL. AS WELL. >> WE'LL BE PROVIDING INPUT TO. >> NEED TO GIVE INPUT TO CHILAR BEFORE WE BRING THAT BACK. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHILAR, VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. [OVERLAPPING] THE STAFF FOR LOOKING AT THIS. I APPRECIATE IT. >> VERY GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3F, PLEASE. >> ITEM 3F. UPDATE AND DISCUSSION OF THE STEWART BEACH MASTER PLAN. >> SHOULD BE FAIRLY QUICK. HI, AMBER. HOW'RE YOU, MICHELLE? IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AGAIN FOR THE CAMERA. >> MY NAME IS AMBER. I AM PATCH MANAGER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DEPARTMENT. [3.F Update and Discussion of the Stewart Beach Master Plan (M. Hay/A. Guerrero - 15 min)] >> VERY GOOD. >> MICHELLE, HEY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. WE GOT SOME UPDATES. >> SOMEBODY CALLED DAVID COLLINS. PAGE 3 AND 4. THIS FROM THE MASTER PLAN? >> YES. EVERYTHING STILL UP IN THERE. IT MIGHT NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD, AMBER. >> RIGHT NOW, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE RP. IT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT A LITTLE BIT. WE SHOULD HAVE A FINAL DRAFT BY NOVEMBER 18. >> WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? WHAT IS THIS? >> THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE PREPARED AS SAMPLES OF POTENTIAL THINGS. IT'S NOT A ROADMAP. IT'S JUST SOME OF THE THINGS BECAUSE THE CONSULTANT THAT WE'VE GOT ON BOARD HAS SAID, COULD YOU SHOW US SOME THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT THINK WOULD BE OUT. WE PREPARED THESE. THESE ARE JUST A FEW THINGS. THEY COULD PROPOSE THIS OR SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. BUT THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT WE'RE RANDOMLY MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS. >> THIS IS A WAY TO COMMUNICATE IDEAS OR I GUESS, ASPIRATIONS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING TO SEE THERE ON SOUTH BEACH IN THE RFP. [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT. >> CORRECT. >> IT'S NOT ANYTHING CARVED ON STONE. IT'S JUST A REPRESENTATION OF IDEA. BECAUSE THEY NEED SOME ANY RFP RESPONDENT IS GOING TO ASK, WHAT DO YOU WANT? >> YES. >> THAT'S WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. >> THAT WAS PART OF THE ISSUE, I THINK, BEFORE WHEN THIS WAS DONE, IS THAT WE JUST PUT IT OUT THERE AND SAYS, GIVE US SOME AND THIS PUTS THE GUARD RAILS ON IT JUST A LITTLE BIT, GIVES THEM SOME THOUGHTS, BUT IT DOESN'T LIMIT THEM AT ALL. >> GIVES YOU A PLACE TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION. >> YOU BET. >> ITS SOMETHING YOU DEVIATE FROM. >> IS THIS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN? >> NO. THESE ARE JUST SUGGESTIVE. >> I THINK THESE ARE JUST RAW CONCEPTS. >> [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS WHAT WE SAW, THE RESULT OF THE PUBLIC MEETING, THE RESULT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT TOGETHER IN MORE OF A 3D FORMAT RATHER THAN JUST THIS LIKE VISUAL SHAKE. >> WHEN WOULD THE MASTER PLAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL? >> WE'RE GOING AFTER THE RFP, JUST SEE WHAT WE CAN GET. >> WHEN? >> NOVEMBER. >> WE'LL GET A FINAL DRAFT ON NOVEMBER 18. WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW IT, AND THEN IF IT'S APPROVED, THEN IT WILL GO OUT TO BED AND THEN WHENEVER WE GET THAT FROM THOSE CONTRACTORS OR THE DEVELOPERS, THEN THAT'S WHEN [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE RFP PROCESS IS A 60-DAY, I THINK? >> [OVERLAPPING]. I THINK WE WANTED TO EXTEND IT A LITTLE BIT. >> YEAH, WE WANTED TO LENGTHEN IT. [03:05:01] >> WE SAID WE'RE AT 90 OR 120. >> IS THAT WHAT WE SAID? I ROUGHLY REMEMBER TIME FRAME THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. >> WE EXTENDED IT TIME, I KNOW THAT. >> WE DON'T WANT TO ISSUE A RFP IN DECEMBER 15 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S GOING OUT. >> IT'S GOING TO GO BEYOND LIKE MARCH MORE OR LESS. >> ABOUT 120? >> YES. >> YES. >> COUNSEL WILL GET A CHANCE TO SEE THAT RFP DRAFT IN THE DECEMBER MEETING? >> YES. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO, YES. >> VERY GOOD. >> THAT CASTING A WIDE NET TO MULTIPLE. >> WELL, I WANT TO CAUTION EVERYBODY. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT ON THE STREET WHILE COUNSEL'S LOOKING AT IT. IF COUNSEL WANTS INPUT BEFORE IT HITS THE STREET, THAT'S FINE. >> THAT'LL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> ONCE ONCE WE LOCK IT INTO PURCHASING, EVERYBODY IS BACK OFF. >> YES. >> WE'RE TRYING TO SET IT OFF THE STREET INTO THE STREET ON DECEMBER 16. [OVERLAPPING] BUT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL INPUT FOR THEM. >> IF THERE'S OTHER CHANGES THAT COME UP IN DECEMBER, I DON'T THINK PUSHING IT INTO JANUARY IS A BAD THING, JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A BETTER TIME TO PUT THESE THINGS OUT. >> DO YOU NEED THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE DECEMBER 11 MEETING? >> TOTALLY YOUR CALL MAYOR. >> LET'S PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. I THINK SO. >> JANELLE WILL GET IT ON THE AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 11, FEDERAL WORKSHOP. JUST AN UPDATE AT THIS POINT. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MICHELLE? >> COULD YOU IN PREPARATION FOR THAT SEND OUT THE DRAFT TO US AHEAD OF TIME? >> YES. AS SOON AS I HAVE IT I WILL SEND IT OVER. >> YES. >> WE'VE GOT OUR CONSULTANT WORK. >> VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS? LADIES, AMBER MICHELLE, ANY QUESTION. >> ALONG THE LINES OF STEWART BEACH. I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS UP. I HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH MARTY AND VINCE. I THINK WE'VE SETTLED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH BEACH PATROL NOW. AMBER IS WORKING ON THAT NOW. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE WATER THEY WANTED TO, BUT WE ARE GOING TO POSITION AT STEWART BEACH, BUT VERY MUCH BACK IN THE BACK SIDE OF THE PARK, SHOULDN'T IMPACT ANY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE THINK WE HAVE A VERY USEFUL FUNCTIONAL, MEETING THEIR NEEDS, BUT COST EFFECTIVE MANNER TO DO THIS. WE'RE WORKING ON SOME STUFF NOW. HOPEFULLY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE IT BACK TO YOU IN DECEMBER, BUT IF NOT JANUARY, WE'LL BE BRINGING YOUR PROPOSAL ON THAT. >> THIS IS WORKING WITH THE PROGRAM OF THAT PART OF THE BEACH PATROL THAT WILL BE ON THE SAND. >> PRETTY MUCH. IN MEETING WITH MARTY AND VINCE THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME COMPONENT AT PARK POD PLAZA AND THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT THEY REALLY FEEL LIKE AND MARTY STANDS BEHIND IT THAT THE LION SHARE OF THIS NEEDS TO BE WHERE THE OPERATIONS ARE. >> SIX THOUSANDS SQUARE PIECES. >> YES. >> IN THREE THOUSANDS OF THE 6,000 IS OPEN SPACE. BIG SPACE. >> AUSTIN KERR HE'S ON BOARD WITH THAT. >> WE'RE I ASSUME THAT VINCE AND MARTY THAT'S WHO THEY'RE GETTING THEIR INFORMATION FROM. >> CAN WE GET JUST AN UPDATE ON THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING? >> SURE. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE WOULD HAVE THE NET BY THE NEXT MEETING, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON. >> VERY GOOD. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LADIES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NICE TO SEE YOU. THAT WAS NICE. [OVERLAPPING] VERY EASY. >> ONE QUESTION FOR MICHELLE. FOR NOT DONE. PART OF THIS RFP IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT WE EXPRESS OUR PART IN THIS PARTNERSHIP, OUR STAKE IN THIS PARTNERSHIP. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO REVIEW? >> MICHELLE IS INVOLVED IN THIS RYAN, WHO'S OUR CONSULTANT ON THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO BE ASKED IS, WHAT SKIN DOES THE CITY HAVE IN THIS GAME? IS IT GOING TO BE THROUGH DIRECT FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION? IS THE CITY GOING TO DO SITE WORK? IS THE CITY CIVIL WORK? IS THE CITY GOING TO REALIGN THE ROAD? NOT NECESSARILY PROFIT SHARING, BUT MAYBE ANY OTHER INCENTIVES. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAS A BIG SALES TAX COMPONENT, IS THERE A 380 COMPONENT TO THIS? THAT'S WHY MICHELLE HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE PROCESS NOW BECAUSE WE'RE TREATING THIS NOT ONLY AS A DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, STEWART BEACH, BUT ALSO AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S WHY AMBER AND MICHELLE ARE BOTH ON THE TEAM DOWN DOING THIS. >> WHEN ARE WE GOT TO GET TO REVIEW SOME OF THAT STRATEGY? >> THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE RFP. >> WHEN WE SEE THE RFP DRAFT, IT'LL BE IN THERE. AGAIN, THE RFP, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SPECIFIC ENOUGH TO GET TO GET US IN THIS AREA HERE, BUT NOT SO SPECIFIC THAT WE'RE TELLING SOMEBODY BECAUSE THAT'S A BID NOT FRP AT THAT POINT. >> EXACTLY. BUT ANY PROSPECTIVE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO WANT A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY AROUND WHAT THE CITY IS BRINGING TO THE TABLE. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'VE MET WITH RYAN ON AND THAT'S GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO IT. >> GOOD. THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, LADY. VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. COUNSEL, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BREAKING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION HERE IN JUST A SECOND. I WANT TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS BEFORE WE DO THIS. [03:10:01] WE HAVE AN UPDATE OF THE STATUS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PETE MILBURN SENT THAT OUT TO US AND GAVE US A WRITTEN UPDATE ON THAT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. DO WE NEED TO DO THAT. >> THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. MY THING WITH YOU GUYS IS, I'M GOING TO TRY TO SEND EVERYTHING OUT TO YOU IN ADVANCE. IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT, WE'RE HERE. >> I HAD A SPECIFIC QUESTION. LAST I HEARD ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT EXCUSE ME JUST A SECOND. THAT IT'S GOING TO BE QUICK, 3G, PLEASE. >> CHANGE 3G. UPDATE AND DISCUSSION OF THE STATUS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> YOUR QUESTION. THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE BIG REASON THAT THIS THING HAD BEEN SO DELAYED IS THERE WAS A LACK OF COMMUNICATIONS, I GUESS, BETWEEN THE GLO AND THE CITY. TO FIX THAT, YOU GUY SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO MEET WITH HIM. [3.G Update and Discussion of the Status of the Comprehensive Plan (P. Milburn - 15 min)] >> WE DID IN SEE HERE. >> IT'S NOT. >> THAT WE MET WITH THEM AND I THINK WE'VE GOT CLARITY NOW. >> COME ON. >> YES. >> I THINK IT WAS EXPLAINED IN THE EMAIL. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT WAS OUTLINED IT ON THE EMAIL. >> WE HAD OVER ALL THAT IN THE EMAIL. TERESA, COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? >> TERESA EVANS WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. >> THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE MUCH MORE OF AN UPDATE. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVE CLARITY NOW, AND I THINK THE GLO IS MOVING WE HAD TO SUBMIT A FEW THINGS TO THEM. THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC. THE GLO IS A BIG ORGANIZATION. WE DEAL WITH THEM ON SO MANY FRONTS AND THIS RELATIVELY THEY HAD SOME ISSUES AND WE HAD SOME ISSUES, BUT THEY WERE VERY ACCOMMODATING TO US ON THE CALL? >> THEY DID. THEY DID MAKE AN AMENDED REQUEST THAT CORRECTED THE FUNDING AMOUNT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE DISCREPANCIES. WE THOUGHT THEY HAD PUT US IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY, BUT THAT WAS ALL CORRECTED. THEY CONFIRMED THAT THE THE APPLICATION FOR ADDITIONAL 50,000, SO THEY HAVE THEY FUND CITIES BASED ON THEIR POPULATION. WE'RE AT THAT 250,000 FUNDING MARK. TO GET THE EXTRA 50,000 TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE FLUXES IN OUR POPULATION WITH TOURISM, THEY HAD SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON. PETE HAS ALMOST COMPLETED ANSWERING THOSE, BUT THEY ASSURED US THAT JUST AS SOON AS WE GET THOSE IN, WHICH SHOULD BE THE END OF THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK. IT WOULD BE ABOUT ANOTHER MONTH FOR THEIR REVIEW, AND SO WE COULD EXPECT A DECISION THEN. BUT AT THIS TIME, VERBALLY THEY HAVE CONFIRMED WE'RE GOOD FOR 250. >> NOTHING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OR THE SCOPE OF WORK HAS CHANGED FROM WHAT WE'VE OFFERED. ONLY THE TIMING. WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE IT ACTUALLY BEING FUNDED, WHICH WHEN WE PULL THE TRIGGER? >> I WOULD THINK AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, DON'T YOU? YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US. >> THEY TOLD US IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT A MONTH REVIEW. THAT PUTS US RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS. I EXPECT TO HEAR FROM THEM EITHER. >> IT COULD BE JANUARY. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT BUTTON? >> VERY GOOD NEEDING. THEY WERE VERY COOL TO HELP. >> PETE WAS VERY TO THE POINT ON EDUCATING US ON THAT, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. WE ALSO WE HAVE 3H UPDATE AND DISCUSSION OF THE STATUS OF PUMP STATIONS. I'M NOT SURE WE NEED THAT. WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> I THOUGHT WE ALREADY SAID WE COULD PROBABLY COVER? >> I WANT TO CLARIFY THIS WITH DON AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS JUST FOR THE SOUTH SHORE STATION. [3.H Update and discussion of the status of Pump Stations (B. Cook - 15 min)] >> THAT'S THE ONE I THINK THAT WE'RE MAY BE UPDATING ON. >> THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO ASK COUNSEL BECAUSE I HAD A REQUEST TO HAVE THIS ON HERE. DOES COUNSEL NEED TO UPDATE ON ANY OF THE OTHER PUMP STATION ACTIVITIES? >> WE CAN MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING. >> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. >> YOU WANT TO DO THE UP AND SPEAK UP. DO YOU WANT TO DO THE UPDATE ON THE OTHER PUMP STATION? >> I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THIS ONE NO. >> THAT'S FINE. WE'LL HAVE THE SOUTH SHORE PUMP IN THE STATION DISCUSSION IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE 3H. WE'LL MOVE THAT TO DECEMBER 11. VERY GOOD. IT IS 12:21 PM. PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE CONDUCTED TO DISCUSS AND RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE CONCERNING PENDING LITIGATION AND/OR A SETTLEMENT OFFER ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION] THE GOVERNMENT BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT. THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING THE SOUTH SHORE POMP STATION 1222, WE ARE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S 1:01 PM. [03:15:04] THE CITY COUNCIL FOR NOVEMBER 13, 2025, HAS COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE ARE NOW MOVING BACK INTO OUR REGULAR WORKSHOP AGENDA. WE HAVE EVERYONE COMING BACK INTO THE ROOM AT THIS POINT. >> COME ON, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SEAT. WE DON'T BITE [LAUGHTER]. >> THE SAYING OF THE DAY. >> WE DON'T BITE. >> YOU DON'T BITE. >> ARE YOU ALL DONE? THEY ALL CAN'T BE SURELY DONE TALK HERE. COME ON. >> [BACKGROUND] WE'RE BACK INTO OPEN SESSION FOR OUR WORKSHOP. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3D. >> ITEM 3D. DISCUSSION OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. >> VERY GOOD. BITING TO THE TABLE. MEMBERS OF OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL COMMITTEE AND OUR LEGAL LIAISON, AND WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES HERE. YOU WOULDN'T MIND. LET'S GO AROUND THE TABLE, DO NOT SIT ON THE VISITING. [3.D Discussion of a Short Term Rental Ordinance (B. Brown/C. Brown - 15 min)] IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AGAIN, TERESA. >> TERESA EVANS WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GALVESTON PROGRESS FTR COMMITTEE. >> DAVID BLOOM, FTR COMMITTEE. >> CHIEF [INAUDIBLE] GASKIN, CITY LEGAL. >> CITY LEGAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM, AS YOU KNOW, COUNSEL, IS ITEM 10A, VOTING TO AFTERNOON ON OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. WE HAVE MANY COMPONENTS OF THAT. I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP. CLARE, DID YOU WANT TO START OR IS IT. >> NO, YOU'RE JUST IMPRESSED YOU'VE MOVED SO QUICKLY TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA. I THINK IT MIGHT BE SASSY. >> SURE SHE, GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> WELL, REALLY, THE PURPOSE OF THE WORKSHOP WAS JUST TO I KNOW IT'S ON FOR ACTION THIS EVENING AND REALLY JUST TO GET ANY FINAL THOUGHTS ON IT BEFORE IT GOES FOR ACTION TONIGHT. >> COUNCILWOMAN ROB. >> MY BIGGEST ISSUE WITH SECTION 5 WITH THE PARKING, WHICH STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT ARE FACED. >> THANKS. >> I DO THE LITTLE [NOISE] THIS WE'RE JUST COMING UP WITH A PARKING PLAN FOR ONE AREA, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO COVER ALL AREAS. I ACTUALLY HAD A STROKE OF THIS EARLIER THIS MORNING, HOW WE MIGHT DO IT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS JUST R3. >> WHAT THIS IS ACTUALLY PROPOSING IS TO TAKE WHAT EXISTS IN R3 RIGHT NOW AND EXPAND IT ISLAND WIDE. THIS WOULD BE EVERYWHERE. IT WOULD JUST EXCLUDE MULTI FAMILY LIKE, CONDOS APARTMENTS THAT LET'S GO. >> IT WOULD COVER WEST THEN SINGLE FAMILY. I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PARKING SPOT FOR EVERY. BECAUSE WHEN I READ THROUGH THAT, I DID NOT FEEL WELL. >> YES. IT'S IT IS TAKING R3 AND JUST EXPANDING IT ISLAND WIDE. >> THAT WOULD BE I HAVE TO AMEND THE LDR FOR THAT, CORRECT? >> YES. >> WHAT WAS THAT IN BOB? >> I HAVE TO AMEND THE LDRS TO DO THAT. >> YES. THE LAND USE TABLE WITH THE ZONING DISTRICTS AND THE RESIDENTIAL USES FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD EXPAND THE LIMITED USE STANDARD FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. IT'S ALREADY IN OUR LDRS, WHICH IS ONE PARKING SPACE PER BEDROOM. THAT WOULD EXTEND TO THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS. WE WOULD HAVE THAT LIMITED USE GO ACROSS FOR ALL THE ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. >> ARE WE GOING TO USE THE DEFINITION AS IT IS DEFINED IN REAL ESTATE? WHAT DECLARE IS A BEDROOM, LIKE WHAT DEFINES A BEDROOM? >> IT'S DEFINED IN THERE. >> IT MUST HAVE A WINDOW LIKE WE SAW. >> IT'S DEFINED IN THERE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION TO HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THIS? IF YOU'RE IN THE SAY THE WEST END AND YOU HAVE FIRST OF ALL, ARE ALL THE EXISTING AND SHORT TERM RENTALS GRANDFATHERED IN? >> YES, SIR. >> YES SIR. >> THIS ONLY APPLIES TO NEW SHORT TERM RENTALS. [03:20:02] >> YOU REGISTRATIONS. >> THAT WOULD REGISTER ONCE THIS IS BROUGHT INTO PLAY. HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THAT? I KNOW THEY HAVE TO PUT IN A PARKING SCHEME AND SO FORTH, AND SO THEY DO, AND THEY SHOW SAY IT'S A THREE BEDROOM HOME AND THEY SHOW ONE OFFSIDE PARKING, SAY UNDER THE HOUSE, THEY GET TWO ON THE STREET. HOW DO YOU EVER ENFORCE THAT? WHAT IF THEY HAVE THREE CARS OUT THERE? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO GOES WITH WHY? >> WAY I'M ON IN THEIR QUESTION, BUT THE WAY I SEE THAT IF YOU SAY YOU HAVE FOUR BEDROOMS AND YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT HAS FOUR SPOTS OR YOU CAN EVEN HAVE SIX CARS BECAUSE YOU'RE IN YOUR OWN DRIVEWAY. THAT COULD BE MORE OF A FACTOR. NOT REALLY COUNTING THE STREET BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT, ALTHOUGH YOU COULD DO IT IN A NUMBER OF INSTANCE. IT WOULD BE HARD. THAT'S HARD EVEN IN CITY. >> IT'S EITHER BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE. I KNOW. >> IT ADMITTEDLY WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T KNOW SAY ON THE WEST END, WE WOULDN'T UNLESS THEY'RE ILLEGALLY PARKED, WHICH IS VERY EASY TO ENFORCE OR THEY'RE CAUSING A PUBLIC SAFETY PROBLEM. THEN THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY ENFORCEABLE. BUT IN AN THE INSTANCE WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST UTILIZING AVAILABLE PARKING LEGALLY, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE GUESTS OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL OR SAY, RESIDENTS HAVING PEOPLE OVER. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY WANT THE CITY MARSHALS TO GO AROUND KNOCKING ON DOORS, DEMANDING TO KNOW WHO OWNS CARS OR WHOSE. IT'S A STICK UNDER. >> I THINK, MAYOR, THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS IT CONVEYS OUR INTENTIONS FOR HOW TO OPERATE THESE STRS. IT ALSO GIVES ENFORCEMENT A GROUND SOMEWHERE TO THE GROUND TO STAND ON, IF THERE IS SOME OTHER ENFORCEMENT ISSUE THAT COMES UP AT THIS HOUSE WHATEVER HOUSE IT IS SAY THERE. THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF NOISE, THEY'RE TEARING THINGS UP AND IT SAYS, OH, WELL, WHO ARE ALL THESE CARS RIGHT HERE? YOU GOT TOO MANY CARS HERE, TOO, SO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT WE GO AROUND COUNTING CARS, KNOCKING ON DOORS, FINDING OUT WHO'S IN WHAT CAR, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS WE'RE CONVEYING OUR INTENTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE THINK IS THE APPROPRIATE OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR THESE PLACES. >> ALEX, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE HOW DO WE RIDE A TICKET? BECAUSE IF WE JUST PUT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE INTENTIONS BEHIND IT, WE PUT VERBIAGE AND LANGUAGE IN THERE. IT'S NOT GOING TO MEAN ANYTHING. IN TERMS OF WRITING ACTIONABLE OFFENSE OR ACTIONABLE TICKET. I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO BE SEEN AND WHAT HAPPENED RECENTLY RELATIVE TO THE CONVERSATION OF BOTH FIFA AND THE STR REGULATIONS AS DALLAS FILED A LAWSUIT TO GET TO CHANGE THEIR REGULATIONS FOR THE BAN THAT I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING OUTSIDE OF THE REALM, AND SALLY'S LOOK AT ME. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO HER ABOUT THIS, BUT THIS IS SEEMS LIKE A REGULATION THAT COULD BE CONSTRUED AS A RESTRICTION. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY IT COULD BE WORSE BECAUSE THE CITY OF GARLAND ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE DOING IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IT OR HOW IT'S GOING TO SURVIVE A LAWSUIT, BUT THEY ACTUALLY BANNED ON STREET PARKING FOR STRS. >>> MY GOODNESS. >> THAT'S CRAZY. THIS OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T DO THAT. BUT I THINK I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS, I KNOW THAT PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD AND CAME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD COMPREHENSIVE PARKING PLAN FOR STRS. BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IN MY SAF REPORT, I RECOMMENDED THAT THIS PASS WITHOUT PARKING IS BECAUSE PARKING, AS WE LEARNED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE FEEDBACK, THE PUBLIC SUPPORTED THE PARKING REGULATIONS, BUT THE ANECDOTAL DATA THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, DOESN'T SHOW A PARKING PROBLEM, NECESSARILY, THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED BY THIS, THAT IS STR SPECIFIC. I THINK IT'S ISLAND WIDE. THERE IS AN ISSUE, BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO STRS. [03:25:01] >> THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH PARKING AND STRS. >> I THINK THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE. >> THE SLY BEING 32 PEOPLE IN A THREE BEDROOM. THAT'S A PARKING STR ISSUE. >> I THINK THE PROBLEM BECOMES ENFORCING. IF THOSE 32 PEOPLE AND ALL THOSE CARS ARE LEGALLY PARKED, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ENFORCE THAT. >> IT GOES THERE. >> I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT ISSUE. CERTAINLY, IT IS AN ISSUE. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE ENFORCE LEGALLY PARKED VEHICLES. >> WON'T IT GIVE US AN OPTION, THOUGH, TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ENFORCEABLE VERSUS SOMETHING THAT ISN'T THERE THAT THERE IS NO ENFORCING? >> WE HAVE SPECIAL PARKING DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY FORCE PARKING. THAT'S A GOOD SEE THISTLE MAP RIGHT HERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE TRIS OF FORCE THAT SHOWS YOU ALL THE STRS. THEN IN THE LITTLE COLORED SQUARES, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE SPECIAL PARKING DISTRICTS WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO, FOR INSTANCE, PUT PUT A TAG IN YOUR WINDSHIELD IN YOUR SHORT TERM PARKER PARKING ON THE STREET. PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE RESIDENCES HAVE A STICKER ON THEIR WINDOWS AS I LOOK HER. WE'D HAVE PARKING REGULATION IN THESE AREAS, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW LITTLE OF ALL SHORT TERM RENTALS ON THE ISLAND ARE COVERED BY SPECIAL PARKING DISTRICTS. I THINK STAFF WAS GOING TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO PETITION THE CITY FOR A SPECIAL PARKING DISTRICT, IF IF YOU WANTED TO. I THINK, IS THAT >> THERE'S ALREADY A PROCESS FOR CREATING SPECIAL PARKING DISTRICTS. IT GOES THROUGH ENGINEERING. I GUESS IT'S JUST IT'S AN APPLICATION OR REQUEST, AND THEN ENGINEERING DOES A STUDY TO CONFIRM OR TO DOCUMENT. THERE'S ACTUAL DATA TO SUPPORT THE CREATION OF A SPECIAL PARKING DISTRICT. BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL TO REVISE THAT PROCESS. THERE'S A CERTAIN MINIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTS OR HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION. >> HERE'S THE PROBLEM, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE SPECIAL PARKING INST. BUT LET'S JUST I THINK THIS IS CAR. YOU COULDN'T DO SPECIAL PARKING BECAUSE THEN YOU DEEM BREACH OF OPEN BEACHES. YOU COULDN'T DO THAT. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE LEAVING THEM OUT WITH NO REGULATION WHATSOEVER. >> YOU'D BE ABLE TO DEIFY WHOSE CAR IS WHAT? BECAUSE EACH CAR IN THAT SPECIAL PARKING DISTRICT WOULD HAVE A STICKER IN THE WINDOW OR A PLAQUE ON THEIR DESK. >> YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO. BRIAN? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THE ISSUE WE DO WITH SPECIAL PARKING DISTRICTS THAT THERE IS MOST OF THE SPACES IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CALCULATED INTO THE GLO COUNT FOR BEACH ACCESS. YOU PARKING PASS BE DAMNED, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PARK THERE TO ACCESS THE BEACH. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT DISTRICT YOU WOULD PUT THERE. >> THE WHOLE OLD PARS BEACH IS PART OF THE GLO. >> PRETTY CLOSE TO IT. [LAUGHTER] YOU MIGHT PICK UP A STREET IN THERE, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUCH A WIDE IT'S A BIG SUBDIVISION, AND THEY HAVE SUCH A WIDE BEACH THAT AT 15 FOOT PER CAR, THAT'S A LOT OF PARKING SPOTS THAT THEY HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE ON THEIR STREETS. THEY RARELY EVER USE THEM ALL, BUT THEY STILL WE STILL HAVE TO SHOW THEM. >> YOU COULDN'T LEGALLY DO IT. >> CLEAR, LET ME ASK THIS BEING THE CHAIRPERSON. YOU DISCUSSED PARKING AT LENGTH FOR A LONG TIME. YOU WOUND UP WITH THE APPROACH THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY A PARKING RECOMMENDATION YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH CORRECT. AND WE REALLY HEARD IT'S WHAT SOCHI SAID. IT'S AN ISLAND WIDE ISSUE. IT'S RESIDENTS, IT'S LEASE PEOPLE WHO LEASE, AND IT'S STRS. IT'S JUST AS BRIAN HAS SAID TO ME OVER AND OVER, OUR CITY WAS NOT BUILT TO HAVE DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING. THE WEST END IS SO DIFFERENT THAN THE EAST END OR THE MIDDLE OF TOWN. AT ONE POINT, WE'VE TALKED MAYOR ABOUT IT NOT EVEN BEING INCLUDED IN THIS IN THIS ORDINANCE, THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT GOD BLESS YOU. PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WOULD FIGURE OUT WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPLY, GO BACK TO LDRS, ETC. >> WE TALKED ABOUT INITIALLY, REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT SINCE THE ISLAND IS DIFFERENT SITUATIONS ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN. HAVING DIFFERENT ZONES WITH DIFFERENT PARKING REGULATIONS AND SO ON, BUT IT ALWAYS CAME BACK DOWN TO THE QUESTION THAT IS ASKED EVERY TIME. HOW DO YOU TELL WHOSE CAR THAT IS PARKED ON THE STREET? >> LEGALLY PARKED. >> THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS WITH A SPECIAL PARKING ZONE, AND AS WE JUST HEARD, THAT MAY NOT BE APPLICABLE HEART SPEECH. BUT THERE IS IN THIS ORDINANCE TO [03:30:01] DUPLICATE THE R3 LIMITED USE ACROSS ALL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. >> I'LL JUST TELL YOU MY THOUGHTS ON THIS. I'M RELUCTANT TO I UNDERSTAND WHAT BOB IS SAYING ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING IN THERE THAT AT LEAST GIVE SOME EMPHASIS TO HAVING PARKING CONTROL. BUT IF WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT, I'M VERY RELUCTANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WE CAN'T ENFORCE. PERSONALLY, I WOULDN'T WANT TO HOLD UP, THIS SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE OVER THE PARKING ISSUE. I WOULD BE INCLINED IF WE WANT TO APPROACH IT, LET'S APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, REMOVE THE PARKING COMPONENT TO IT. THEN IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PARKING, WE CAN DO THAT. >> WHAT PART YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT IN THIS? >> EXCUSE ME. >> WHAT PART ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THE PARKING. YOU TALKING ABOUT SECTION FIVE THAT'S GOT THIS RED AGE, THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> YES. >> THE SECTION 5 THAT'S GOT THE RED. THAT THAT'S THE PART THAT EXPANDS WHAT'S CURRENTLY ONLY APPLICABLE TO R THREE TO THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> I UNDERSTAND. THE PROBLEM IS, I CANNOT FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ENFORCE THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS AND HAVE OUR CITY MARSHALS OUT THERE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE KNOCKING ON DOORS AND ASKING WHO OWNS WHAT CAR AND HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN THERE. IT'S JUST IT'S SOMETHING THAT I JUST THINK WE OUGHT TO REMOVE THE PARKING AT THIS POINT AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT FURTHER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THIS ORDINANCE. WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. >> PART OF THIS ALSO GOES THROUGH OTHER PLACES IN THE ORDINANCE, IF I'M CORRECT. WHEN YOU REGISTER, YOU REGISTER A PLAN FOR PARKING IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE TO TELL THAT. PARDON ME? >> THERE'S ONE ONLY ONE OTHER SECTION. >> I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE TO PRESENT A PARKING PLAN TO TELL PEOPLE TO TELL THE CITY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PARK, EVERYBODY. UNLESS WE HAVE SOME FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD SUGGESTION, THAT THEY WON'T KNOW HOW TO BUILD THAT OUT. >> I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT BOB IS SAYING IS VERY VALID. I THINK WE DO NEED TO KEEP THE PARKING HAVING DID NOT MAKE EVERY MEETING, BUT SAT THROUGH A LOT OF MEETINGS. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT PEOPLE HAD ALL OVER THE ISLAND, THAT I THINK HAVING THEM SUBMIT A PARKING PLAN. IS A GOOD THING. >> I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. WE CAN VOTE ON THAT THIS AFTERNOON, WE'LL VOTE ON IT. IF WE WANT TO PUT THE PARKING PLAN IN THERE THE WAY IT'S RECOMMENDED, WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'LL BE DUE TO THE VOTE THIS AFTERNOON. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY AND THE LAST TIME I LISTENED, AND HAVE HEARD THIS CONVERSATION. I DO THINK THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU WANT TO, IT'S ALMOST LIKE PLAYING WITH THE KID, AND GIVEN A RULE THAT YOU CANNOT FOLLOW THROUGH WITH. IF WE'RE NOT ONLY SUBJECTING, FOR EXAMPLE, MARIE SAID, WELL, THIS ONE PLACE PARKS 32 CARS. ARE THEY GOING TO HAND YOU A PLAN FOR PARKING 32 CARS? NO? NO, THEY'RE NOT. AT SOME POINT OR OTHER, IF THE MARSHALS A CALL, THEN AGAIN, IT MAKES IT SUBJECTIVE TO THE MARSHAL, BECAUSE THIS YOUNG MAN, WHY SAID, WELL, WHY ARE YOU PICKING ON ME? HE'S PARKED OVER THERE? IT JUST COULD GROW INTO SO MUCH. >> I TOO THINK THAT THAT PART, IT'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE IT. IT'S JUST NO WAY TO LEGALLY, FAIRLY ENFORCE IT. >> WELL, YOUR KID THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STILL IS GOING TO REQUIRE OR NEED SOME IDEA ABOUT WHAT YOU EXPECT FROM THEM. THAT SOMETHING IN TERMS OF PARKING IS THE EXAMPLE. IF YOU DON'T ASK FOR A PARKING PLAN, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SAY [OVERLAPPING]. >> THEY CAN GET A PARKING PLAN. BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A PLAN FOR 32 SPACES. >> NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE UPFRONT AND HONEST ABOUT IT ON ANY REGULATION OR ANY RULE. WE'RE TARGETING THOSE WHO ARE LIKE YOU AND ME THAT WOULD BE HONEST ABOUT THIS AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. >> WELL, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRING ANYTHING THEN THEN YOU'RE JUST THROWING IT DOWN THAT DRAIN. >> I DON'T SEE HOW IT CAN BE ENFORCED. >> LET'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. >> ON THE SECTION OF THE LICENSE, WHERE IT SAYS IF YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED, THERE'S A $500 FEE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS $500 A DAY FOR EVERY DAY. >> IT IS IT SAYS EVERY DAY EACH DAY, [OVERLAPPING] EACH IS A VIOLATION. >> I'LL READ IT THAT WAY. >> LET'S LET'S CLARIFY THIS FIRST BEFORE WE GET OFF ON ANY QUESTIONS. [03:35:03] COULD YOU READ THAT SECTION, CHOCHY HUNT? >> IT'S THE FEE IF YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED. >> PURPOSES IF YOU FAIL TO REGISTER. >> PAGE 6. >> PAGE WHAT? >> SIX. >> FEE OF 500. >> YOU TALK ABOUT THE LATE FEE. I'M SORRY. THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE CITATION YOU CAN GET FOR CONTINUING TO OPERATE. THE FEE YOU CAN GET BOTH PRESUMABLY, YOU COULD BE BEING ISSUED CITATIONS DAILY FOR OPERATING WITHOUT A LICENSE. THEN WHEN YOU FINALLY ARE YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME JUST GO REGISTER, YOU'RE GOING TO GET HIT WITH A $500 LATE FEE IS WHAT THIS NEEDS TO DO. >>IT DOESN'T TAKE PLACE OF THE OTHER THING. IT'S ON TOP OF THE OTHER THING. >> IT DOESN'T APPLY, OBVIOUSLY, IT WON'T APPLY IF YOU BUY YOUR PROPERTY THAT YOU WANT TO USE AS AN STR AFTER THE DEADLINE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HIT YOU WITH A LATE FEE ON A NEW PROPERTY. BUT IF YOU'VE BEEN OPERATING AND YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED IT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME, THEN YOU'RE HIT WITH THAT $500 FEE WHEN YOU GO TO REGISTER. >> CLARE, COULD YOU JUST BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ADDED IT UP. THE 600 AND SOME SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT I THINK I KNOW HOW MUCH IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY? >> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE $350,000 OR SOMETHING. >> OH, GOSH. YOU COULD HAVE COLLECTED. >> COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR NON MANAGEMENT EMPLOYEE. >> BY THE WAY. >> I KNOW. >> YES, MA'M I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO ANY EXISTING STRS, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY ON THAT IDEA ON THE PAGE FOR AS A TOP BECAUSE IF AN OWNER SELLS THE PROPERTY BEING USED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, A NEW OWNERS AT PAY A NEW LICENSE OPERATING THE PROPERTY OF SHORT TERM RENTAL. BUT IF THAT'S ALSO GRANDFATHER THOUGH, THE CURRENT STR OPERATOR, WHEN HE APPLIES FOR HIS NEW LICENSE ANNUALLY, HE'S STILL GRANDFATHER IS NON CONFORMING USE, IS THAT RIGHT? >> IT WOULD BE. BEFORE IF I HEARD THE QUESTION. SORRY. >> IF I HEARD THE QUESTION CORRECTLY. IF SOMEONE ALREADY HAS A NON CONFORMING USED TO OPERATE IN STR AND THEY CONTINUE TO REGISTER AS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, WITH THIS NEW ORDINANCE, ARE THEY STILL RAN FAN YES. IS THE REGISTRATION IS A KEY? >> AS LONG AS THEY DO IT WITHIN 300. >> I THINK THE QUESTION IS CORRECT TO TRAM TO A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP. >> THE NEW OWNER WOULD HAVE TO REGISTER. SOSA WAS TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, IF THERE WAS A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP AND WOULD THEY WOULD THEY OR WOULD THEY NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A $500 FEE? >> THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD, I THINK I CHANGES HANDS, IF THE BUILDING CHANGES HANDS AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD A SHORT TERM RENTAL LICENSE, AND THE NEW OWNER WANTS TO ALSO OPERATE AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL. IS THAT ALSO A AUTOMATIC NON CONFORMING USER? DO THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR A NEW PERMIT UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE? >> YES. THEY WOULD APPLY FOR A NEW PERMIT, UNDER THE CURRENT OWNER. WITH A NEW IT WOULD BE A NEW LICENSE NUMBER, AND IT WAS REMAIN A PRE EXISTING NON CONFORMING USE, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN REGISTERED. >> THE NEW OWNER IF HE DOES IT WITHIN 365 DAYS, WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE EXISTING STR STATUS NON CONFORMING? >> YES. BUT THEY WOULD NEED A NEW LIC ENSE. >> YOU NEED A NEW LICENSE BUT NOT NECESSARILY UNDER THE NEW ORDINANCE? ONE LIE ON PAGE 10 ON THE LINES, IS THIS IS IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE STERL BOARD. IF THE CITY COUNCIL REVOKES A LICENSE, A NEW LICENSE WILL BE REQUIRED TO RESUME OPERATION. IF THAT IF THAT PERSON'S LICENSE WAS TAKEN AWAY FOR BAD BEHAVIOR OR WHATEVER, HE WOULD ALSO AND HE GETS AND HE REDOES HIS LICENSE, HE WOULD ALSO BE UNDER NON CONFORMING STATUS. >> I MEAN. IF HE IF IT'S WITHIN THE TIME. >> IF IT'S WITHIN THE TIME. >> I THINK I JUST WANT NOTE ON HERE THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE A ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THIS ORDINANCE. THAT IS UNDER THE SAME SECTION RIGHT HERE, IF THE STR BOARD RECOMMENDS IT, TO APPROVE REVOKING A LICENSE FOR BAD BEHAVIOR, THREE STRIKES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. THAT'S PART OF THIS WHOLE STR REVIEW PROCESS. THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE END PART OF THAT. >> VERY GOOD. YES, CLAIRE. [03:40:01] >> JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE LAST THING ON PARKING. I WOULD SAY THAT I AGREE WITH YOU, BOB, THAT ASKING FOR A PARKING PLAN AND HOW YOU PLAN TO PARK YOUR GUESTS WHEN YOU'RE REGISTERING FOR THESE NEW REGISTRANTS IS IMPORTANT. IT SETS THE STAGE AND THE EXPECTATIONS. I AGREE WITH THAT. IN REALITY, WE ALREADY HAVE 4,000 PLUS WHO WILL NOT BE ADHERING TO THESE RULES. THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THEM. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD MORE THAN PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT PARKING WHEN THEY WOULD COME TO ME AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE, IS THAT WE'RE NOT ENFORCING WHAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. THE FACT IS IS THAT NOW WITH IT ALL UNDERNEATH THE CITY, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THAT, WHICH IS, I THINK GOING TO GIVE RELIEF TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH A PROBLEM STR. ENFORCEMENT, I THINK, IS KEY TO EVERYTHING, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T ENFORCE, WE LOOK BAD. I'M OF THE OPINION, PERSONALLY, REPRESENTING THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW IS THAT I WOULD RATHER SEE IT REMOVED, AND WHAT WE CAN ENFORCE AND GET STR WORKING WELL AND EFFECTIVELY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING FOR THE CITIZEN SUITS. BECAUSE REMEMBER, 4,000 ARE ALREADY OUT THERE, AND THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THIS PARKING REGULATION. PEOPLE WHO HAVE STRS WITH CONSISTENT PARKING ISSUES, AND BY PARKING ISSUES, I DON'T MEAN PARKING LEGALLY. I MEAN, AND WE HEARD THIS AT THE COMMITTEE, PEOPLE BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS, PEOPLE PARKING IN THE GRASS, PEOPLE PARKING IN OTHER PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS. PEOPLE POTENTIALLY BLOCKING ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ACTIONABLE, AND WE HAVE ORDINANCES ALREADY THAT ADDRESS THOSE, AND THOSE CAN BE CONSIDERED IN STR. THOSE ARE VIOLATIONS. EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE PARKING SPECIFIC TO STRS IN THE STR ORDINANCE, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MANAGE BAD PARKING ACTORS. THE WAY WE MANAGE ALL BAD PARKING ACTORS, WHICH IS, WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED A STRIKE? LET ME GIVE YOU A HYPOTHETICAL. IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE OUT ON THE WEST END, THEY'RE BLOCKING PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS, THEY'RE ILLEGALLY PARKED. MARSHALS HAVE TO GO OUT THERE, AND THEY'RE CITING PEOPLE, AND THERE'S EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT THESE ARE CARS BELONGING TO THAT STR OPERATOR, THEN YES, THAT IS A VIOLATION. BECAUSE IT RELATES TO OUR PARKING ORDINANCES AND STATE LAW, WHICH DICTATES HOW PEOPLE PARK AND ALL THAT STUFF. AGAIN, I'VE ALWAYS STRESSED THIS EVERY TIME I TALK ABOUT STR, I DON'T WANT STR TO BECOME LIKE, I DON'T LIKE STRS, AND NOW WE'RE PULLING YOUR LICENSE BECAUSE THAT CAN GET US IN TROUBLE. AS A CITY AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE WANT PEOPLE TO OPERATE BUSINESSES HERE AND OPERATE THEM WELL. BECAUSE IT'S ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE THAT OPERATORS AND OWNERS, IT'S REQUIRED THAT THEY INFORM GUESTS OF ANY PARKING SITUATIONS. THAT'S REQUIRED. IF THEY DON'T OR THEIR GUESTS ARE BLOCKING PARKING OR WHATEVER, THEN YES, THAT'S THAT'S A VIOLATION. IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO STRS, IT APPLIES TO EVERYBODY. BUT IT CAN BE USED AS SOMETHING TO PULL A BAD OPERATOR'S LICENSE WITH THE PROPER EVIDENCE. >>NONE TO ME IS ONE OF THE SADDEST THING IS HAVING TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS 400 BAD ACTORS, OR ACTUALLY LESS THAN THAT, 20 BAD ACTORS, REALLY. I DO WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE HOW MANY HOURS DID YOU ALL MEET? >> NINETEEN MEETINGS. >> I CAN'T THINK ABOUT IT. >> NINETEEN MEETINGS ARE USUALLY ABOUT TWO HOURS EACH. >> YEAH. >> THIS WAS THE MOST FOCUSED COMMITTEE I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO BE INVOLVED WITH SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB. [APPLAUSE]. >> I'LL TELL YOU THE THING THAT DAVID AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS. STR IS REALLY GREAT. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO LEGAL GETTING THAT UP AND RUNNING IN THE CITY. THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. THEN HOTLINE. THE HOTLINE IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT. >> YES. >> VERY MUCH. >> FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT THREE KEY PEOPLE. WE'VE GOT BRIAN, WE'VE GOT DAN, AND WE'VE GOT HEATHER. THOSE ASSETS DIDN'T EXIST. WELL, BOOTS ON THE GROUND. OH, NO, SHE GETS SOMEONE, THEY'RE DONE. [LAUGHTER] >> ONE OTHER THING WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TODAY THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE INVOLVES THE CITY'S PUBLIC FACING WEBSITE STR PRESENTATIONS, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THIS DATA THAT CAN BE UPDATED AT REAL TIME FOR ANYBODY TO GO ON THE WEBSITE AND SEE ALL OF THIS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE RIGHT HERE. [03:45:01] THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE TRANSPARENCY AND A LOT MORE INFORMATION EASILY OBTAINED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AFTER THIS IS ALL DONE. THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW, IS THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE FOR THIS ARE INTENDED TO COVER EVERY BIT OF THIS ADMINISTRATION THAT'S DESCRIBED IN THIS ORDINANCE. IT'S 250 RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST YET UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DO IT. BUT IT ALSO SAYS AND THERE ARE 250 SUBJECTS SUBJECT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AFTER A YEAR OR SO OF DOING THIS, WHEN WE GO BACK AND LOOK, WE CAN ACCURATELY SAY WHAT IT COSTS TO ENFORCE THIS TO ADMINISTER THIS ORDINANCE AND ADJUST THE FEES ACCORDINGLY SO THAT THEY ALL PAY FOR ALL OF THIS. >> VERY GOOD. BRIAN, WOULD YOU MIND SEND TO COUNCIL, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO SEND WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE PARKING PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY? THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS IN CHARGE OF ENFORCING THE PARKING. >> COULD YOU SEND OUT TO COUNCIL, AND THAT NUMBER, IF WE GIVE THAT TO A RESIDENT, WHO THEY NEED TO CONTACT? >> THE RESIDENT NEEDS TO CALL THE CALL CENTER. I'VE GOT TO CALL THE HOTLINE. >> IS THE CALL CENTER UP AND RUNNING? >> YES, SIR. >> SEND THOSE MEMBERS OUT TO THE COUNCIL, TOO. I THINK THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS ON REGISTRATION GOES TO CHILA, IS THAT RIGHT? >> CHILA IS HANDLING THAT RIGHT NOW ALONG WITH YOU GUYS. BUT SHE'S HANDLING THE MONEY SIDE OF IT, YES. >> IF YOU COULD SEND THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL. >> SURE. >> WE HAD ALL HAVE THAT. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. >> ONE QUICK THING. ON ALL'S COPY OF THE ORDINANCE, THE PARKING IS IN RED, AND I JUST DID THAT FOR MYSELF, SO I COULD FIND IT BECAUSE I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE DISCUSSION TOPIC. THAT'S WHY IT'S IN RED, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION, OR MY RECOMMENDATION, I SHOULD SAY, FROM LEGAL IS TO PASS IT WITHOUT THE RED PARTS. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE RESIDENTS UNHAPPY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE. JANELLE, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3I. >> THREE I, DISCUSSION OF CHANGING INCREMENTS OF PARKING. >> YES, IS DISCUSSION OF CHANGING INCREMENTS OF PARKING. >> I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP LIKE A MILLION TIMES, AND YET TO HAVE AN ANSWER, SO HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY WILL HAVE ONE TODAY AND THEN IT'S BEING ABLE [3.I Discussion of Changing Increments of Parking (Robb/C. Brown - 15 min)] TO PAY FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF OF PARKING INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PAY FOR TWO HOURS. I'VE USED THE SAME SYSTEM IN MULTIPLE CITIES IN THE COUNTRY AND YOU CAN BUY A HALF AN HOUR, SO I JUST WONDER WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT. >> LET ME MAKE SURE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN OR THE SEA BALL? YOU CAN BUY AN HOUR INCREMENTS, CAN'T YOU? >> HOUR INCREMENTS, THAT'S RIGHT. >> IF YOU'RE GOING IN TO HAVE A LUNCH MEANING, IT GENERALLY TAKES AN HOUR AND A HALF. BUT YOU HAVE TO BUY TWO HOURS. >> YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUY TWO HOURS, CORRECT? >> BUT IN OTHERS THEN YOU COULD BUY AN HOUR AND A HALF. >> OKAY. >> MY QUESTION HAS BEEN, THIS IS THE EIGHT TIME AND SO ON THE AGENDA. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE HALF HOUR INCREMENTS? >> I THINK THERE'S ANY REASON YOU CAN'T. COUNCIL DECIDED ON HOUR INCREMENTS WHEN WE DID THE PROGRAM. JUST REMEMBER, NOW, ALL OF YOUR BUDGETS ARE BUILT AROUND THE HOUR INCREMENTS. IF YOU REDUCE THAT BUDGET, THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING OUT OF THAT FUND. >> WELL, YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE HEARD FROM OUR COLLECTION AGENCY AS WELL AS FROM OUR HEAD MARSHAL, THAT WE HAVE A COLLECTION RATE OF AVERAGE BETWEEN THE TWO IS 25% OF THE TICKETS. I'M THINKING MORE PEOPLE MIGHT PAY, NOT GET A TICKET IF THEY COULD PAY FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF. >> MY 35 YEARS EXPERIENCE, TELL ME IF YOU'RE A SCOFF LAW, YOU'RE A SCOFF LAW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY IF IT'S AN HOUR. >> YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TICKETS CITATIONS WHEN YOU GO TO A HALF HOUR THAN WHEN DO HALF AN HOUR. >> THIS IS A COUNCIL DECISIONS NOT [OVERLAPPING]. >> IF YOU WANT TO A POOR REASON, ACTION ITEM, MARINE, YOU CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AT AN HOUR. ALEX. >> I ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WHAT I'M PAYING FOR. THERE'S A TEXT MESSAGE FEE, A PARKING FEE, SERVICE FEE. I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP. DOES IT SCALE UP PROPORTIONATELY? IF I'M PAYING FOR AN ALL DAY RATE OR IF I'M PAYING FOR [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE DON'T DO AN ALL DAY RATE DOWNTOWN. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHAT IS IT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME THAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> HEATHER MORRIS, THE CITY MARSHAL. [03:50:02] YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL FEES IN ADDITION TO THE ONE HOUR PARKING OR HOWEVER MUCH TIME YOU'RE PAYING FOR PARKING. BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE IN THAT $2.25 CENT FEE, IT REQUIRES THE CITY TO ABSORB THE TRANSACTION FEE. THAT FEE CURRENTLY FOR PAY BY PHONE IS $0.30. OUR CONTRACT EXPIRES NEXT SUMMER, SO WE'LL BE GOING INTO A NEW CONTRACT. BUT CURRENTLY EVERY TIME YOU USE PAY BY PHONE FOR DOWNTOWN OR UTMB, IT'S $0.35, SO THE CITY ABSORBS THAT COST. THERE'S AN OPTION FOR PAY BY PHONE, IF YOU HAVE YOUR NOTIFICATIONS TURNED ON FOR THEM TO SEND YOU A LINK THAT SAYS, HEY, YOUR TIME'S ABOUT TO EXPIRE. IF YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR THAT WITH PAY BY PHONE, IT'S $0.20. >> THAT'S THE [OVERLAPPING]. >> WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE $0.20 IS WE COLLECT THE $0.20 BECAUSE YOU PAY IT. YOU PAY IT WHEN YOU PAY YOUR PARKING FEE. THEN [OVERLAPPING]. >> WHEN THEY SEND THE TEXT TO YOU. >> RIGHT. PAY BY PHONE, ALL THAT MONEY COMES TO US, AND THEN WE REIMBURSE. >> PAY BY PHONE. >> PAY BY PHONE, THE $0.20 THAT WE COLLECTED FROM THAT. THAT'S A USER FEE, NOT A [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT'S PER TRANSACTION? >> THAT'S PER TRANSACTION, YES. >> IF YOU HAVE MORE TRANSACTIONS, IT CUTS INTO YOUR REVENUE THAT MUCH MORE? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT SAYS $0 FOR A SERVICE FEE. THE PARKING FEE IS 675, DOES THE $0.30 COME OUT OF THE PARKING FEE OR IS IT A SERVICE FEE THAT THE CUSTOMER WOULD PAY? >> LET'S SAY THAT YOU PARKED FOR THREE HOURS. YOU PAY FOR THREE HOURS. >> SIX SEVENTY FIVE PLUS $0.20, SO PAYING 695 FOR THREE HOURS. >> THE CITY IS GOING TO PAY $0.30 FOR THAT TRANSACTION. >> $0.20 BACK TO PAY BY PHONE. >>> RIGHT. >> PLUS THE $0.30 OR IS IT $0.10? >> NO. IT'S $0.30. WE WILL REIMBURSE THE $0.20 THAT PAY BY PHONE GAVE US. >> OKAY. >> THEN WE WILL PAY THEM ADDITIONAL $0.30. >> SO $0.50, BASED ON WHAT THE CUSTOMER. >> RIGHT. IF SOMEBODY UTILIZED THE TEXT MESSAGE OPTION, YES. >> MY QUESTION WOULD BE THE $0.30 SOUNDS LIKE IT'S COMING OUT OF THE PARKING FEE. >> IT IS. >> WHY DON'T WE HAD THE SERVICE FEE WHERE THE SERVICE FEE WOULD COVER THAT FROM THE COST SIDE, NOT OFF OF OUR SKIN. >> IT SAYS THAT ADD THE FEES. >> ADD IT TO THE COST OF THE FEE. >> MOST FEES ARE ADDED ON TOP OF THE BASE RATE. >> RIGHT. CURRENTLY, THE CITY ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE PAY HAS TO BE A ONE HOUR MINIMUM AND THAT THAT ONE HOUR MINIMUM IT'S $2.25 PER HOUR, AND THAT THE TRANSACTION FEE IS INCLUDED IN $2.25. >> THERE'S TWO THINGS HERE, COUNCIL DECIDED THAT ONE, THAT THEY WANTED TO JUST ABSORB THAT BACK WHEN WE DID IT. THAT CAN ALWAYS BE CHANGED. THE SECOND THING IS, IS ON THE SEA WALL, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN DOWNTOWN AND THAT THE SEA WALL IS GOVERNED BY THE BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR THE SEAWALL ELECTION AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND HOW THE MONEY GETS APPORTIONED. AN EXACT ANSWER, BUT THAT'S CLOSE. >> THE SERVICE FEE, I GUESS IT'S PER TRANSACTION.. >> IF YOU RENEW, IT'S ANOTHER SERVICE FEE. >> YES. >> WELL, THAT BRINGS ANOTHER QUESTION. WHY ARE WE ABSORBING THAT COST? I'M TIRED OF ABSORBING COSTS. I DON'T WANT TO ABSORB ANYTHING. IT'S SOME RESIDENTS, TOO, BUT IT'S MOSTLY PAID FOR BY VISITING, AND PARKING AS A HOT COMMODITY AND WE'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT REVENUES AND [OVERLAPPING]. >> NO. I DON'T DISAGREE. >> THAT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS ON THERE. WE SHOULD NOT ABSORB ANY MORE COSTS THAN WE HAVE TO. >> WELL, AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THAT ON THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT THAT WE HAD WITH PAID BY PHONE, THAT TRANSACTION FEE WAS $0.20. >> THEY WENT UP ON THEIR FEE? >> NOW IT'S $0.30. >> YOU REALLY CONTRACT WITH PHONE DIDN'T CHARGE YOU FOR THE TEXT, EITHER. ON THIS 695 CHARGE, THE $0.30 IS PROBABLY FOR CREDIT CARD COMPANIES, ETC, AND THEN THE $0.20 IS FOR THE SMS FEE, SO WE'RE ONLY GETTING 645 PER THIS TRANSACTION, ROUGHLY. >> YES. IT SAYS 675, AND THEN ADD 60% [OVERLAPPING]. >> SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY, YEAH. >> YEAH. >> THEN IF WE ADDED ON SERVICE FEE, WHICH WOULD COVER THE TRANSACTION FEE OR WHAT THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT WOULD BE A SERVICE FEE FOR $0.30, [03:55:05] THEN WE WOULD BE MAKING WHAT? >> $30. >> THIRTY, YEAH. WHAT IS THAT 675 ON THAT? NOT CONFUSING. >> IT'S 675. >> SIX HUNDRED FIFTY-FIVE. >> YEAH. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT 95 MINUS THE 30? >> I WOULD BE $0.30. WE'LL BE COLLECTING ALL 675. >> IS MATH HARD? [LAUGHTER]. >> WE WILL BE COLLECTING ALL SIX [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE WILL COLLECT 675. OF THAT 675, WE ARE GOING TO PAY $0.20 TO PAY BY PHONE. THEN WE'RE GOING TO PAY ANOTHER $0.30 TO PAY BY PHONE. OKAY. >> THE TOTAL I HAVE IN MY CART RIGHT NOW. 695. THE $20 FEE IN THAT JUST GETS SENT BACK, BUT IT'S STILL THE FEE THAT THE END USER WILL PAY. >> SIX FORTY FIVE COMES TO [OVERLAPPING]. >> SIX FORTY FIVE BECAUSE WE'RE ABSORBING THAT COST OFF OF THE PARKING FEE. LET'S NOT ABSORB THE COST. MAYBE WE HAVE TO PUT THAT TO A VOTE, BUT LET'S NOT ABSORB THAT COST, AND WE WOULD BE CAPTURING THE FULL AMOUNT IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING, AND THEN THE FEE WOULD BE ASSESSED AND CHARGED TO THE END USER. >> THE ORDINANCE DOES STATE IT'S $2.25 CURRENTLY PER HOUR, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN IN TNB. IT DOES STATE THAT, AND IT STATES THAT THE TRANSACTION FEE IS GOING TO BE ABSORBED BY THE CITY. THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED [OVERLAPPING]. >> WHAT HE'S SAYING IS WE COULD SAY [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT TICKET WORK ON. THAT'S A MINIMUM OF AN HOUR, AND THEN YOU COULD INCREASE IT FOR 30 MINUTES IF YOU WANTED TO. THEN THE OTHER THINGS I'VE SEEN IN THE CITY WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO REGISTER. LET'S SAY YOU'RE GOING TO PICK UP AN ITEM THAT YOU BOUGHT AT KIM'S ONLINE. >> THEY HAVE A 15 MINUTE FREE REGISTER. YOU HAVE TO REGISTER TO NOT GET A TICKET, BUT YOU COULD RUN IN A STORE TO PICK UP. >> WE HAVE THAT NOW. WE HAVE A 15 MINUTE LAG ON EVERYTHING. >> THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY STATES THAT FIRST 15 MINUTES IS FREE. OUR PARKING OFFICIALS DO NOT. >> THE FIRST DRIVE BY IS NOT A TICKETABLE OFFENSE, CORRECT? >> THAT IS BULL. ABSOLUTE BULL. >> I CAN TELL YOU. >> THAT'S BULL. I DON'T CALL THAT VERY OFTEN. >> I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S ZERO ABILITY FOR THEM TO DO THAT. >> I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW SOME EXAMPLES. >> THAT WAS THEIR SIXTH YEAR STRAIGHT. I COULD PULL UP AND LITERALLY WALK IN WITH A CASE OF BEER TO STICK IT DOWN ON THE COUNTER. BY THE TIME I WALKED OUT, THERE WAS A TICKET ON MY WINDSHIELD. IT'S NOT FAT CONTRACTORS. I TOOK A LOT LESS THAN 15 EQUIPMENT. NO. WE'RE NOT 10 MINUTES IN SAYING LIKE I'M SORRY, DAN AND BRIAN, LIKE THAT'S JUST THAT'S NOT TRUE. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL. TALKING ABOUT INCREMENTS OF TIME TODAY ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SO LET'S KIND OF KE KEEP ON THAT SUBJECT. ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE AGENDA WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN DOWN THERE THAT DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, SIR? NO. OKAY. HE'S THIS IS MY PARKING GURU, RIGHT? NO. I I DON'T THE SYSTEM. HE'S MY BACKUP. I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU WERE IN SOME OTHER VIOLATION, PARKED IN A LOADING ZONE, PARKED OVER PARKED IN I'M PARKED DEAD IN FRONT OF BUBBA'S. HE'S TELLING YOU THAT THE SYSTEM I WOULD LET YOU WRITE THE TICKET, WOULD IT? YES? HOW WOULD IT KNOW? THEY WOULD KNOW IT WOULDN'T HOW MINUTES. R BRACEWELL, PARKING SUPERVISOR. OUR SYSTEMS IN THE CAR. WE HAVE AN AUTOMATIC 15 MINUTE TIME. IF YOU GO BY AND YOU SCAN A PLATE, THAT TIME STARTS, WE CAN'T ISSUE A PAID PARKING CITATION UNTIL AFTER THAT 15 MINUTES. SO I MEAN, YOU CAN GO BACK BY THAT CAR THREE OR FOUR TIMES, BUT BEFORE THAT 15 MINUTES IS UP, YOU CAN'T WRITE THEM A PAVED PARKING CITATION. OKAY. I WAS A WALKING LINE SHOPPER FOR A LONG TIME YOU TRIED AGAIN SEE SO WE CAN TALK. LET ME. I YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC INCIDENT, LET ME KNOW BECAUSE IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF GLITCH OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IN THE TECHNOLOGY. MARSH HEADER, I HAD A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN A SPECIFIC CATCH I MEAN SOMETHING I CAN GO BACK AND RESEARCH TIME. I GET WITH THEM, GET WITH THEM AND WORK OUT YOUR ISSUE IF YOU EXPERIMENTS NEVER WORKED OUT EVER SAY I WANT TO ASK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO 30 MINUTES INSTEAD OF KEEPING IT MINIMUM OF AN HOUR, [04:00:04] BUT YOU COULD INCREASE IT AT 30 MINUTE INTERVAL MOST EVERY OTHER. WE NEED TO VERIFY THE PAY PHONE COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT. I THINK THEY CAN. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THEM ABOUT CHANGE IN THE INCREMENTS, AND THAT THERE IS A NOMINAL FEE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF LIKE $350 FOR THEM TO CHANGE THE PARKING BUT IF YOU OFFSET IT WITH WHAT ALEX IS TALKING ABOUT, I DON'T THINK THAT THE REVENUE CHANGE WOULD BE SO DRACONIAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE SERVICE TO THE CLEANING UP DOWNTOWN OR ANY OF THAT OTHER STUFF. NOT REALLY GAINED ANY GROUND BUT CAN YOU BE RIGHT. SO I JUST RECO GAINING $0.30. YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME, I THINK ON THE I'VE LOST A LOT OF CENTS UP HERE, BUT YEAH, IT'S OKAY. YEAH. SO I JUST RECOMMEND NOT FOCUSING ON THE $0.30 IN TERMS OF LIKE ABSORBING PARTICULAR COST BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS CONTRACT IS GOING TO EXPIRE NEXT SUMMER, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE AFTER THAT. AND. CAN WE CHANGE THAT CONTRACT PRIOR TO NEXT SUMMER. IN TERMS OF ADDING SUBTRACTING I CAN I CAN I CAN'T CHANGE THE TRANSACTION COST, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT I DO BELIEVE I DO KNOW THAT I CAN CHANGE THE INCREMENTS AND REQUEST THE PROGRAM CHANGE FOR THE INCREMENTS. THAT CAN BE DONE. I WOULD ADVISE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE A BUR UNDER THEIR SADDLE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT. IF YOU COULD GET WITH STAFF, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND WE CAN LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING SPECIFIC IN THE ORDINANCE OF WHAT CHANGES WE WANT TO MAKE. I WANT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, PLEASE. YES. THAT'D BE GREAT. AND SEND IT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. THAT'D BE GREAT. AND BO, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR 12 TICKETS, IS IT? NO, I'M JUST PROB I SAY A LOT MORE THAN THAT, ACTUALLY. I BAR WITH LAR WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. SO LET ME CLARIFY HERE TOO THAT WE'RE JUST TALKING WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT DOWNTOWN. ARE WE CONCERNED ABOUT UTMB AT ALL OR JUST JUST JUST DOWNTOWN. OKAY. SO ON THE NEXT COUNSEL WILL BE JUST PARKING ORDINANCES FOR DOWNTOWN ON ON THE AGENDA? CHANGES THERE. IT WOULD HELP COUNSEL IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC CHANGES YOU WANT. OKAY. TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF OUTLINES SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE SPECIFICALLY IN THE ORDINANCE? YES. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. TALK IN JANUARY DECEMBER BECAUSE THANK YOU, VERY EARLY. YEAH. PROBABLY I WOULD THINK IF JANUARY WOULD BE THE TIME TO ADDRESS IT, MARY BECAUSE DECEMBER IS WE'RE REAL CLOSE ON THE DECEMBER MEETING ALREADY BECAUSE OF THE EARLY MEETINGS. I'M FINE WITH JANUARY IF COUNCILMEN ROB AND PERRETTA AND RAWLINS ARE. WERE YOU DECEMBER? NO DECEMBER JANUARY ALL RIGHT DECEMBER. I MEAN, JANUARY. TO LOOK AT THIS PARKING. OKAY. DECEMBER DECEMBER OR JANUARY. I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS. DECEMBER VIRGINIA. I HAVE EXAMPLES. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM THREE J, PLEASE. ITEM THREE J. PELICAN ISLAND BRIDGE DATE. WE'RE STILL MOVING ALONG. I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS HGAC, WHERE ARE WE? WE HAVE TO AS THAT RIGHT WHEN PUT A MARY, ARE YOU LOOKING TO ME? OH, NO. SHE'S TO I JUST PUT A SHE'S RESTARTS. [3.J Pelican Island Bridge Update (Robb/C. Brown - 15 min)] I CAN GET IT IN MY HEAD. YES, PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD. YES. TECHTO CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL WHICH IS NEW. THERE'S TWO APPLICATIONS, TWO CORE APPLICATIONS OF FOUR OH FOUR AND FOUR OH EIGHT, FOUR OH FOUR IS THE BIG APPLICATION THAT DEALS WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. AND DEALS WITH ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ALL THOSE ISSUES HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THAT APPLICATION CAN BE DONE. SO THEY CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT AND THEY ARE NOT THERE YET. DESIGN NEEDS TO BE AT 60% BEFORE THEY CAN SUBMIT THAT. AND SO THEY'RE WORKING TOWARD THAT FOUR OH EIGHT APPLICATION, WHICH DEALS THE CONSTRUCTION TIMING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. WE RECENTLY LEARNED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR SOME TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS. WITH THE GLO, PORT HOUSTON, AND LAMPSON WIN. TEXTOS CURRENTLY MAPPING THOSE NEEDS, AND ONCE THEIR WORK IS COMPLETED, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE IT BACK TO THE CITY FOR US TO NEGOTIATE THOSE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS. IN MY RECENT MEETING WITH VERONA, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TEXT IS CONSIDERING PROPOSING TO US THAT WE DO THE PROJECT IN TWO PHASES IN TWO AFA. THE FIRST AFA WOULD BE FOR THE DESIGN, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND MITIGATION. [04:05:04] THAT'S ALL LOCALLY FUNDED. SO THAT WOULD COME OUT OF OUR 36.2 MILLION ROUGH ESTIMATE, THAT'S ABOUT 4.5 MILLION, AND THEN A PHASE TWO, AFA WOULD BE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. SO THOSE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING NOW, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE 29.2 MILLION OF THE 36.2 IN HAND. WE'RE AWAITING THE 5 MILLION FROM GALVESTON COUNTY AND THE 2 MILLION FOR THE PORT OF HOUSTON. AND THAT THEY WERE JUST AWAITING REQUESTS FROM THE CITY TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING AND THOSE HAVE BEEN ISSUED, SO WE SHOULD SEE THAT MONEY COMING IN. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. WHERE ARE WE AT HCAC? WELL, IT'S MORE WHERE ARE WE ON THE WHOLE PROJECT. SO THE PROJECT ITSELF WILL BE AT 60% DESIGN IN FEBRUARY AND AT 90% DESIGN BY JUNE. WE HAVE ANOTHER WORKING MEETING FOR IT ON AFTER THE NEXT TBC MEETING. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S A 200 SOME MILLION DOLLAR FUNDING GAP SO ASIDE FROM WORKING WITH JUST HDAC, I AM ALSO WORKING WITH THE STATE TO LOOK AT GETTING SOME SORT OF APPROPRIATIONS IN THE 27 BUDGET. AS WELL, THE FEDERAL LOOKING AT GETTING SOME SORT OF APPROPRIATION IN THE 27 BUDGET, WHICH THEN LIGHTENS THE LOAD FOR THE MPO. ALL RIGHT. BUT IT'S A VERY WELL SUPPORTED PROJECT? YES. DAN, WHAT IS THE REASONING OR THE LOGIC BEHIND THE TWO AFA INSTEAD OF ONE? IS TO JUST KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. ONCE YOU GET THE DESIGN, THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND MITIGATION DONE, WHICH IS ALL LOCAL. TEXT IS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR THE FUNDING FOR THOSE AND CAN'T JUST STOP THE PROJECT FOR THOSE ITEMS. AND TEXT CAN'T LEGALLY DO. THEY CAN PAY FOR THOSE. PAY HAVE TO COME OUT OF LOCAL FUNDS, SO THAT'S WOULD REQUIRE THE AFA FOR THOSE. SO THE GOAL HAS BEEN AND WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER MEETINGS OF THE CORE, THE COAST GUARD, AND WHATNOT, IS TO SPEED UP THE ENVIRONMENTAL SO THAT WE CAN GET SHOVEL READY. YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THINGS ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE IN OUR OBLIGATIONS HERE AS DAN MENTIONED ABOUT 7 MILLION SHORT THAT WE'LL BE RECEIVING HOPEFULLY VERY SOON. AND WE'RE WAITING FOR OTHER FUNDING WORKING WITH HCAC, AND AS MARIE MENTIONED, POSSIBLY THE LEGISLATURE AT THE NEXT SESSION ON THIS. FEDERAL. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM THREE K, PLEASE. ITEM THREE K. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE USE OF THE IN AT THE WATER PARK FOR LONG TERM RESIDENCY, POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON THE CITY'S FAA STATUS, AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENT. OKAY, MARY. WELL, WHERE'S BRIAN BANS HERE. BRIAN'S ACCUSED BRIAN ERAS. WELL, WHEN WE WERE FIRST LOOKING AT THE ASSIGNING OF THAT LEASE TO THE PERSON WHO WAS GOING TO DO THE J ONE VISA, [3.K Discussion regarding the use of the Inn at the Waterpark for long-term residency, potential impacts on the City’s FAA status, and compliance with the existing lease agreement (Robb/C. Brown - 15 min)] BOTH YOU AND BRIAN INSISTED WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A NEW LEASE BECAUSE IF WE DID STUCK WITH THE CURRENT LEASE AND IT WOULD BE IN BREACH OF THE LEASE BECAUSE THE THE J ONE VISA WOULD BE A DIFFERENT APPLICATION THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE LEASE. NOW, CURRENTLY, IN AT THE WATER PARK IS BEING USED TO HOUSE RIDIU PATIENTS WHO ARE THERE FOR LONGER 30 DAYS. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR MULTIPLE MONTHS. SO MY CONCERN IS FROM EVERYTHING YOU TOLD US, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST LEASE, BY HOW IT'S BEING USED NOW, WE'RE IN A BREACH OF THE LEASE AND WE WERE TOLD YOU WOULD LOSE YOUR FAA STATUS, AND IT WOULD AFFECT US MOVING FORWARD WITH COMMERCIAL. SO ARE WE IN JEOPARDY NOW? AND IF NOT WHY? NOT WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU WAS IT WOULD BE A CHANGE OF USE FROM THE FIRST GROUP BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO TURN IT INTO APARTMENTS. NOT A HOTEL. APARTMENTS ARE NOT AN APPROVED USE BY THE FAA. A HOTEL IS. HOTELS FREQUENTLY, AND I CAN'T STATE HOW FREQUENT, [04:10:03] BUT I WOULD GUESS IT'S FAIRLY REGULARLY HOUSE PEOPLE FOR A LONGER TERM. IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER, WE PLACE PEOPLE IN HOTELS. THE MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS, IS THAT THE MERIDIAN HAD A WATER PIPE BREAK. IT FLOODED THE APARTMENT SIDE OF THEIR UNIT. THESE ARE NOT NURSING HOME PATIENTS. THESE ARE RESIDENTS IN THE APARTMENT SIDE OF THEIR HOUSING UNITS, AND THEY ARE PAYING HOTEL RATES AND HOTEL TAX TO STAY AT A HOTEL, WHICH IS THE END AT THE WATER PARK. WE CONFIRMED WITH THE FAA THAT HOTEL USE IS STILL AN AUTHORIZED USE. IT'S NOT BEING IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS NOT AN AUTHORIZED USE AND THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL SAY THAT WOULD NOT BE AN AUTHORIZED USE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. ACTUALLY, WHAT WAS SAID IS THEY'RE SIGNING A LEASE, AND IT HAS TO REMAIN AS AN OPERATING HOTEL OR AN OTHER RELATED USE. WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A HOTEL? STAYS FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS WITH HOT DECKS BEING PAID OBVIOUSLY. WE ASSIGN THE LEASE AND THEN THEY MOVE THE HOTEL DEFINITION, WHICH AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE STAYS MORE THAN 30 DAYS. SO IT'S CONFLICTING INFORMATION. FROM EVERYTHING THAT YOU TOLD US, WE, WE DENIED THAT? I I I DON'T BELIEVE A CONFLICT, COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT WE I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST OUR TENANT THAT'S OPERATING A HOTEL. I MEAN, THAT'S COUNSEL'S PREROGATIVE. WE BELIEVE THEY'RE STILL OPERATING AS A HOTEL. I'VE STAYED IN HOTELS FOR LONGER THAN 30 DAYS AND IT WAS STILL A HOTEL. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU STAY IN A HOTEL AND YOU'RE PAYING A HOTEL RATE AND YOU'RE COLLECTING HOT TAX, THAT IT'S FUNCTIONING AS A HOTEL. THEY THEY'RE NOT PERMANENT RESIDENTS, THEY'RE TEMPORARY RESIDENTS BECAUSE OF AN EMERGENCY NEED AT THEIR FACILITY. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I THINK I MEAN, WE SERVE AT THE WILL OF COUNSEL. I THINK IT WOULD BE UNREASONABLE TO BELIEVE THAT A HOTEL COULDN'T TAKE A GUEST FOR GREATER THAN 30 DAYS. I WAS UNAWARE THAT THERE'S A DEFINITION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT DEFINITION IS. IT SAYS, AS LESS THAN WAS BRYAN TALKING. YEAH. AND TELLING US WHY WE COULDN'T ASSIGN THE LEASE? BECAUSE IT WAS AN APARTMENT E. THEY WERE CONVERTED. NOBODY NO ONE MENTIONED TAKING LEGAL ACTION. SO THAT'S CLARI THAT. THE WHAT OPTION BE OTHERWISE? WELL, WE LEASE LEGAL ACTION. WE WERE TOLD THAT IF WE SIGNED A LEASE WITH THE OTHER COMPANY THAT IT WOULD PUT OUR AIRPORT IN JEOPARDY. SO THIS IS TO CLARIFY NOW THAT WE HAVE LONG TERM PEOPLE STAYING THERE, WHICH WAS WHAT YOU SAID WOULD MAKE P ARE QUESTION. SINCE THE THING RUN IN THE NEWSPAPER, I'M GETTING CALLS OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE OR PEOPLE REFER TO US. I'VE NOT YET RECEIVED ONE CALL. IF YOU GET THOSE CALLS, REFER THEM TO US AND WE CAN EXPLAIN IT TO THEM. I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER HOTELS ON THE ISLAND THAT HAVE HAD GUESTS STAY LONGER THAN 30 DAYS AND THEY DON'T JEOPARDIZE THEIR ABILITY TO OPERATE AS A HOTEL. THE ABILITY TO AIRPORT TO LEASE THE PROPERTY OUT FOR A HOTEL IS SOMETHING THE FAA APPROVED. THE FAA DOES NOT APPROVE LEASING IT OUT AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS WHAT THE FIRST DEVELOPER WANTED TO USE IT FOR. BUT WHAT MIKE SHEEHAN SAID IS THE HOTEL HAS TO BE FOR SERVICES RELATED TO THE AIRPORT. >> THE OPERATION OF THE HOTEL HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH [OVERLAPPING] >> I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE NOW NOT IN JEOPARDY, AND LAST TIME IT WAS PUTTING EVERYTHING IN JEOPARDY. >> IT'S TWO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES. >> IT SEEMS LIKE A DUAL STANDARD. >> WELL, ALL ANY OTHER [OVERLAPPING] >> DAN, COME ON, MAN. YOU KNOW THEY TOOK AN ENTIRE WING FROM THE MERIDIAN, THE ENTIRE WING, ALL 46 OCCUPANTS. TRANSFERRED THEM, ALL OF THEM, TO A HOTEL. IT'S ON THE FRONT PAGE OF OUR PAPER. THEY'RE DELIVERING THEM FOOD THREE TIMES A DAY, 75% OF THEM ARE NOT ABLE TO UTILIZE A HOTEL BECAUSE IT'S NOT HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE. AT WHAT POINT IN TIME CAN WE JUST CUT THROUGH THE BS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THESE GUYS. WHAT WE TOLD THE OTHER GROUP IS THAT THEY DIDN'T GET TO PLAY BY THE SAME RULES AS THE GROUP THAT'S THERE NOW. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE APARTMENT. WHAT WAS MENTIONED WAS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HOUSE J-1 STUDENTS THERE FOR MORE THAN JUST A WEEKEND. [04:15:05] IT COULD BE UP TO A MONTH OR THREE MONTHS, DEPENDING ON THEIR STAY. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE NOT SURE HOW LONG THE OCCUPANTS THERE ARE GOING TO BE THERE AT THE MEDIAN BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR'S NOT SURE WHEN HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET DONE AT THE MERIDIAN. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE LEFT. >> TWENTY SIX OR 46. TWENTY OF THE 46 ARE NOT GONE. >> NO. THERE'S 26 IN THERE NOW, 46 CAME. >> TWENTY OF THE 46 ARE GONE? THE NUMBER IS DECLINING. THEY HAVEN'T STAYED THERE FOR MONTHS, 20 OF THEM. >> WHAT ARE YOU GETTING AT? >> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. >> IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S ONE OF THEM THERE FROM MERIDIAN. I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, DAN, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT AND SAY, WE, AS A CITY, TOLD ONE GROUP THAT THERE IS NO OPTIONS. YOU CAN'T STAY MORE THAN 30 DAYS BECAUSE IT WILL BE DEFINED AS LONG-TERM. OUR AIRPORT DIRECTOR STOOD UP THERE AT THE PODIUM AND SAID, THIS CAN SEVERELY AFFECT OUR RELATIONSHIP OR OUR LICENSE WITH THE FAA. THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON THAT NONE OF US FELT LIKE WE COULD SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE OCCUPANTS IN THEIR PAST 30 DAYS. THEN, LITERALLY 11 DAYS LATER, I CHANGED, AND ANOTHER GROUP GOT TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING THAT WE TOLD THAT GROUP, AND THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE RECOMMENDED IT DID NOT PASS. THAT WHOLE REC. TO ME, IT DIDN'T LOOK GOOD. >> IS THERE SOME BELIEF THAT THE SECOND GROUP WHO PURCHASED THE HOTEL TO OPERATE IT AS A HOTEL WAS IN COLLUSION WITH THE MERIDIAN TO FLOOD THEIR BUILDING AND TO MOVE PEOPLE THERE? >> SURE, DAN. THAT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. I WOULD DOUBT THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY REMOTE POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEONE COLLUDED TO FLOOD A WING THAT JAY WOULD NEVER WANT THAT. MERIDIAN WOULD NEVER WANT THAT. MY MOTHER STAYED THERE AND PASSED NOT LONG AGO OUT OF THE MERIDIAN. NO. I DON'T THINK SO [OVERLAPPING] WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IT'S COMPLETE VS THAT WE AS A CITY, CAN DEPEND ON SOMETHING LIKE THE WATER PARK, US HAVING AN ABILITY TO RENEGOTIATE A LEASE BECAUSE LITERALLY 11 DAYS EARLIER THAN THAT, WE SAID, WE NEED YOU TO COME BACK, COME BACK TO US. YOU'RE PLANNING ON HAVING PEOPLE STAY THERE PAST 30 DAYS. IT COULD POSSIBLY AFFECT US WITH OUR FAA LICENSE BECAUSE OUR AIRPORT DIRECTORS ARE STANDING AT THE PODIUM STATING THAT. >> COUNCIL, REMEMBER, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO US WAS THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO OPERATE IT AS A HOTEL. THAT WAS THE FIRST GROUP. THE SECOND GROUP ASSUMED THE LEASE. I'M SURE THERE WAS SOME FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS. WE COULDN'T BE INVOLVED IN THAT. THE CITY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. THAT WAS BETWEEN THE 1859 HISTORIC HOTELS. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE ENTITY AND WHOEVER BOUGHT IT. WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE NEW ENTITY. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE IT AS A HOTEL. THAT'S WHAT CAME IN FRONT OF COUNSEL, AND THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL APPROVED. THEY'RE OPERATING IT AS A HOTEL. THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOW HOUSING PEOPLE ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS FROM THE MERIDIAN, WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE, YOU COULD NOT HAVE ANTICIPATED. THAT WAS NOT INFORMATION OR FACTS THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO US AT THE TIME THAT Y'ALL TOOK ACTION AND APPROVED THE AMENDMENT. IF COUNSEL NOW BELIEVES THAT THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THAT LEASE, DIRECT STAFF, AND WE'LL HAVE CITY LEGAL LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE COVENANTS OF THAT LEASE. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THERE. >> FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A COUNCIL DECISION. IT IS NOT A COUNCIL MEMBER'S DECISION. SECOND OF ALL, I'M STILL UNCLEAR. THOSE THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS, WHAT DO YOU WANT THE CITY TO DO? >> I'M JUST ASKING WHY WE WERE TOLD ONE THING ONE DAY. >> HE JUST EXPLAINED WHY. WHAT DO YOU WANT THE CITY TO DO? >> I AM CONCERNED ABOUT OUR AIRPORT BEING IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE THE END OF THE BALLPARK IS NOW FUNCTIONING AS A NURSING HOME, THE WATER PARK. >> I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT COUNSEL TO MAKE A DECISION ON? >> OUR BIG THING IS CALLED FAIR MARKET VALUE. I KNOW WHAT I PAY FOR A SHACK AND A BIG FIELD, AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. I THINK THIS LEASE GOES ON FOR 25 YEARS MORE, [04:20:01] I THINK AT THAT VALUE. >> I UNDERSTAND. I THINK IT HAS LIKE 16 YEARS LEFT. >> I'M JUST SAYING THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO POSSIBLY NEGOTIATE A LEASE. THAT WAS THE SAME THING WE TOLD THE OTHER GROUP. THAT WAS OUR HOPES. >> THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN OPERATING AS A HOTEL, COUNCIL MEMBER. THAT IS THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED TO US IN WHICH WE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL, BECAUSE WE WENT TO THE FAA AND SAID, HERE'S THE PROPOSED USE, AND THEY SAID, THAT IS NOT A PERMISSIBLE USE. CITY, IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE JEOPARDIZING THE GRANT THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU ON THE PROPERTY AT THE AIRPORT. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BRING FORWARD, AND WE BROUGHT THOSE FACTS TO YOU ALL. THE DECISION WAS THAT WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AT THE AIRPORT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE FAA APPROVED. THE WATER PARK ALREADY EXISTED IN THIS HOTEL. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS GROUP ASSUMED THAT THE LEASE CONTINUES TO OPERATE IT AS A HOTEL. THE QUESTION IS, THE FACT THAT THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OVERFLOW OF PEOPLE FROM THE MERIDIAN INTO THERE, DOES THAT CHANGE THE USE OF IT AS A HOTEL? SIR, I DON'T HAVE THAT. >> COULD WE GET A LETTER FROM THE FAA SAYING WE'RE NOT? >> CERTAINLY. WE CAN DETAIL THE FACTS TO THEM THAT THEY'RE PAYING HOTEL RATES, AND THEY'RE COLLECTING HOTEL TAX, AND THEY'RE ON A TEMPORARY BASIS BECAUSE OF AN EMERGENCY. I THINK WE CAN GIVE THE FAA ALL THAT INFORMATION, AND WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE FAA SAYS. >> THIS, FIRST OF ALL, ALEX WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING. I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE, AN ATTORNEY HERE. DONNA, I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO BRING HIM FORWARD SINCE THERE MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE REPRESENTING AN ENTITY THAT MAY HAVE DISAGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY ON THIS. DONNA, I'M JUST NOT SURE IF WE CAN BRING THIS GENTLEMAN FOR. >> WELL, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHO HE IS, BUT THIS IS A COUNCIL DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS, SO I'M NOT [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, I'M HAPPY TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. >> I THINK THE MAYOR IS SAYING, DO WE USUALLY INVITE FOLKS TO THE TABLE? THAT'S A COUNCIL DECISION? >> YES. >> I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHO IS [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO DO THAT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR MATALKA. IS THAT CORRECT? >> COME FORWARD, IF YOU WOULD. >> PROBABLY STATE YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS MATALKA. I'M AN ATTORNEY FOR THE OWNER OF THE ENTITY RIGHT NOW. THE ONLY FACT THAT I WANT TO TELL YOU IS THAT THE PEOPLE FROM MERIDIAN RENT HOTEL ROOMS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. THE FACT THAT THEY MAY STAY THERE FOR A MONTH MAKES NO DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO EVERY HOTEL IN TOWN AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE RENTING THIS ROOM AT THE SAN LOUIS FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS, AND SOMEHOW THAT'S A PROBLEM. THEY RUN, THEY PAY HOTEL TAX EVERY DAY, AND THEY RENT IT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ARGUING IT. >> IT ISN'T A QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'RE STAYING THERE LONG TERM OR NOT. WE DENIED SOMEONE A LEASE BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD WE WERE PUTTING [OVERLAPPING] >> I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S OPERATING AS A HOTEL. THEY PAY THEIR TAXES, AND THEY RENT THE ROOMS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. >> THANK YOU, MR MATALKA. I APPRECIATE THAT. VERY GOOD. COUNCIL, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PURSUE THIS. >> WE NEED TO GET A LETTER FROM THE FAA, SAYING [OVERLAPPING] >> WAIT JUST ONE SECOND, LET'S GO AHEAD. >> SOME CONCERNED CITIZENS BROUGHT ME, AND I SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND EXPLAINED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED AND HEARD THROUGH THE LAST TIME. THEIR STICKING POINTS AND CONCERNS WAS THOSE THREE REGULATIONS OR THREE REGULATORY BODIES THAT WE ASSIGNED THE LEASE TO, THE LEASE AGREEMENT. IT'S FAA REGULATIONS. A NURSING HOME IS NOT PART OF THOSE ALLOWABLE USES FOR THE FAA REGULATIONS. THE 30 DAYS IS A CONTENTIOUS POINT ABOUT THE I THINK IT'S UNDER THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE FOR THE USE OF A HOTEL. IT'S NOT TO EXCEED 30 DAYS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME, AND THEN OUR REGULATIONS. OUR REGULATIONS DON'T HAVE MUCH BEYOND STAYING 30 DAYS, WHICH IS ONLY FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND THEN IT BECOMES SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THAT'S THE ONLY REGULATION THAT WE HAVE THAT HAS 30 DAYS ON THE BOOKS FOR STAYS. THAT'S CONSIDERED SHORT-TERM, WHICH IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS VIOLATES OR DOES NOT VIOLATE OUR LEASE AGREEMENT, I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY. [04:25:04] I THINK IF WE WERE TO PURSUE ANYTHING TO ASK LEGAL TO DO OR REVIEW, THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST A PERIOD OF TIME TO CURE THAT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ELDERLY POPULATION, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ONLY IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AND BOSHART, AND I'M SURE COUNCILMAN BINKLEY COULD APPRECIATE THAT POINT TOO. I'D LIKE TO DEFER IT TO COUNSEL, BUT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, WE SHOULD BE AT LEAST SOMEWHAT CAUTIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BEST INTERESTS OF RESIDENTS, AND PEOPLE AS WELL. I'M AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO DEFER THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL WANTS TO MAKE A DECISION ON, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE COGNIZANT OF THAT FACT AS WELL. >> IT SEEMS LIKE THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM AND THE PERCEIVED RISK IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE VIOLATING ANY CONDITIONS OF THE FAA FOR THE USE OF THAT. I AGREE WITH LI. MAYBE JUST GET A LETTER FROM THE FAA AND TELL US WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WHAT THAT OPERATOR IS DOING IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THEIR RULES. >> THAT'S VERY REASONABLE, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> IN VIOLATION, WHAT ARE WE POTENTIALLY IN VIOLATION OF? I CAN'T FIGURE THIS OUT. >> I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE CASE TO HIM THAT THERE'S AN OPERATING HOTEL ON THE AIRPORT THAT HAS RESIDENTS STAYING FOR LONGER THAN 30 DAYS, AND THERE IS SOME BELIEF THAT IF YOU STAY LONGER THAN 30 DAYS THAT THAT VOIDS YOU AS A HOTEL. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE, BUT I THINK IF YOU ALL HAVE THAT CONCERN, LET'S ASK. >> IT WASN'T, IF I RECALL, THE USE HAS TO BE SOMEHOW BENEFICIAL TO THE AIRPORT. >> WHICH IS THE HOTEL? COMPLEMENTARY TO THE AIRPORT'S FUNCTION. THAT'S WHAT A HOTEL IS, AND THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED USE. THAT'S GIVEN, WE KNOW THAT. WE HAVE TWO HOTELS OPERATING AT THE AIRPORT. MY BET WOULD BE THAT IF YOU FORCE PEOPLE TO MOVE OUT OF THIS HOTEL, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER HOTEL IN THE CITY [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S NOT GOING TO PUT THAT. YOU'VE REINFORCED THAT WE WERE PUTTING THE AIRPORT IN JEOPARDY MULTIPLE TIMES WITH THE FIRST APPLICANT. >> BY BEING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU CORRECT? >> BY BEING A LONG-TERM STAY PLACE. BUT NOW YOU'RE FINDING THAT IT WOULD JUST BE COMFORTING TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING SO HARD ON OUR AIRPORT. I'M THE EX OFFICIO ON THE COMMITTEE TO GET CLARITY FROM THE FAA. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. >> I'M FINE WITH GETTING THAT CLARITY FROM THE FAA. THEY'RE NOT SIGNING SIX-MONTH LEASES OVER THERE. THEY'RE RENTING THEM FROM DAILY. THIS IS CRAZY TO ME, BUT ALL RIGHT. >> IT'S NOT REALLY, I'M SORRY [OVERLAPPING] >> GO AHEAD AND SHARE. >> IT'S A HOTEL. I'M THINKING THAT AFTER OUR GUY, I STAYED IN A HOTEL PAST 30 DAYS. THAT 60 DAYS. >> SOME OF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE HOUSE? >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE. ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN IT BEING AT THE AIRPORT, AND THAT'S IN THE COVENANTS. >> FOR THE FAA. >> THE FAA SAYS YOU CAN OPERATE A HOTEL. YOU CAN'T OPERATE A BOARDING HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, OR SOMETHING ELSE. >> YOU GIVE ME A FORM IF YOU STAYED LONGER THAN 30 DAYS. >> THAT'S EVERYWHERE. >> THAT'S STATEWIDE. >> THEY'RE PAYING HOT TAX, ACCORDING TO MR MATALKA, AND I WOULD TAKE HIS WORD FOR THAT. THEY'RE OPERATING AS A HOTEL. I THINK IT'S VERY EASY FOR US. MIKE MAY HAVE DONE THIS ALREADY, BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN JUST SEND THE FAA, SAY, THIS HAS HAPPENED, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO QUESTIONS. >> WOULD YOU DO THAT, DAN AND REPORT BACK? >> THAT IT WOULD RELIEVE EVERYONE'S CONCERN. >> THIS IS WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, DAN. WITH THAT FIRST GROUP, THIS IS A CASE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT IS DEFINING THEM AS SHORT-TERM? WHAT IS DEFINING THEM AS JUST PAYING BY THE DAY? IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW LONG THEY STAY AS LONG AS THEY'RE PAYING BY THE DAY. WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE TOLD THAT LAST GROUP? LISTEN, WE CAN'T CALL YOU LONG-TERM. BUT IF YOU ALL CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HAVE THE J-1 STUDENTS PAY DAILY, YOU'LL BE GOING TO HAVE THEM STAY THERE AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO. THIS IS NOT MAKING SENSE, I GET IT, DAN, BUT YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? >> I DO, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY EVER CAME BACK AND SAID THEY WERE WILLING TO OPERATE AS A HOTEL. THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN OPERATING AS A HOTEL. >> BUT THE GUIDELINES FOR A HOTEL FAA PROPERTY IS IT DIFFERENT FOR AN APARTMENT. IT'S ABSOLUTELY YOU CAN ONLY OPERATE A HOTEL NOT AN APARTMENT. >> UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO THEM. [04:30:03] >> COMPLEMENTARY TO THE [OVERLAPPING] >> BUT THE FIRST GROUP DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IT. I SAID WE'RE GOING TO JUST CHARGE HIM BY THE DAY. >> BUT THEY STILL HAD TO CALLED A HOTEL. >> I THINK THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT AT FAIR MARKET VALUE AND HAD TO EITHER SUPPORT THE AIRPORT. THERE'S SPECIFIC USES THAT THE FAA REQUIRES THAT SHOULD NOT CONFLICT BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD LIMIT THE FUTURE GROWTH AND USE OF A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. >> HOTELS ARE COMPLIMENTARY TO THE OPERATION [OVERLAPPING] DAN TOLD ME THAT, APPARENTLY AND AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE. APPARENTLY, THE FIRST GROUP WAS OFFERED TO OPERATE AS A HOTEL. THEY DID NOT WANT TO OPERATE AS A HOTEL, THEY DID NOT WANT TO PAY HOTEL TAX OR COLLECT HOTEL TAX. THAT WAS THE CHANGE. THEY WANTED TO BUY THE ASSUMPTION OF THE LEASE AND THEN CHANGE THE USE. >> CORRECT. DAN, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD? >> WE WILL DO THAT. >> THAT WITH FAA. WOULD YOU NOTIFY COUNSEL OF YOUR RESPONSE? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, COUNSEL? WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, AND IT IS 2:17 PM. WE ARE ADJOURNED. WE WILL SEE EVERYONE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.