[I. Declaration Of A Quorum]
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ARE DOWN GATHERED FOR OUR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION MEETING, AND I'M OFFICIALLY CALLING THAT TO ORDER FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON FOR TUESDAY OCTOBER 7.WE DO HAVE FOUR MEMBERS HERE THAT CONSTITUTES A QUORUM.
WE DO HAVE BILL COLTER THAT IS VIRTUAL WITH US.
>> MARIE ROB IS NOT ATTENDING AS OF YET.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MA'AM.
>> LET HER IN REAL QUICK. MAYOR BROWN?
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS IS ABSENT TODAY.
>> THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM HERE. LET'S MOVE.
ARE THERE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST BOARD MEMBERS THAT ANYBODY LIKE TO DECLARE? CARRYING NO RESPONSE ON THAT, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 4, PLEASE DO NOW.
[IV. Consider Approval Of Meeting Minutes]
>> ITEM 4, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES, AUGUST 5, 2025.
>> VERY GOOD. ANYONE HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MEETINGS.
IF SO, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY KEITH BASSETT, SECOND BY ALEX PERETA, AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> THAT IS, UNANIMOUS THOSE THAT ARE HERE.
>> ITEM 5, PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS.
>> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD? HEARING NO RESPONSE, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 6,
[VI.A Discuss and Receive Update on Expenses, Available Funds, Forecasts and Investments. (B.Cook) 1. Discuss and Consider for Approval the FY26 GEDP Membership Renewal in the amount of $50,000. 2. Discuss and Consider for Approval a sponsorship of the 2025 GEDP Economic Development Summit in the amount of $10,000.]
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS 6A. PLEASE, MA'AM.>> SIX A. DISCUSS AND RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON EXPENSES, AVAILABLE FUNDS, FORECASTS, AND INVESTMENTS.
ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR APPROVAL, THE FY 26 GEDP MEMBERSHIP RENEWAL IN THE AMOUNT OF 50,000.
>> GO AHEAD AND READ IF YOU WOULD, THE SECOND, PLEASE, JANEL.
>> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR APPROVAL, A SPONSORSHIP OF THE 2025 GEDP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000.
>> YES. I JUST RECENTLY PASSED OUT A COPY OF THE MOST RECENT SALES TAX REVENUE.
WE RECEIVED THE RECEIPTS THROUGH JULY THAT AMOUNTED TO A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION.
THAT BRINGS THE CUMULATIVE TOTAL FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR TO 26.2 MILLION, WHICH IS A 8.5% INCREASE OVER 2024.
BUT AS WE KNOW, BARREL AND THE RAIN IN JULY REALLY HAMPERED OUR RECEIPTS IN 2024, AND WE WERE DOWN OVER 5% YEAR OVER YEAR.
REALLY, I LIKE TO MORE COMPARE IT TO 2023.
WHAT THAT IS SHOWN IS REALLY WE'RE UP VERSUS 2023, ALMOST ABOUT 2.5%.
IT SHOWS THE DIVERSE ECONOMY THAT GALVESTON HAS AND OUR RESILIENCY TO BOUNCE BACK FROM THESE TYPES OF NATURAL DISASTERS.
>> ANY COMMENTS NOW ON THESE GEDP ITEMS?
>> MICHELLE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN HANDLING THOSE SO I'LL HAND THOSE OFF TO HER.
>> NOW, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ALL THE AGENDA FOR THE SUMMIT HERE.
THERE'S ALSO A TETC THING BEHIND THAT FOR LATER.
BUT JUST TO GET PART OF OUR MEMBERSHIP, BUT PART OF THE SPONSORSHIP FOR THE SUMMIT YOU SEE WE'LL BE RECEIVING WE HAVE TWO SPONSORED TABLES.
IF YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THE DEVELOP THE SUMMIT, THIS IS THE AGENDA FOR THE DAY THE DRAFT AGENDA DON'T IF IT'S FINALIZED YET.
BUT IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO ATTEND, LET ME KNOW.
YOU ALL PROBABLY DIDN'T GET THIS, BUT BILLY, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY KNOW ALL ABOUT IT AND ME HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AS WELL.
>> I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THOSE TWO EXPENDITURES.
>> A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 1 AND 2 OF 6A.
>> JASON HARDCASTLE ON SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? BEFORE WE VOTE, WE HAVE JOSHUA OLANS WITH US.
JOSHUA, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AT ALL?
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>> APPRECIATE THE CITY'S CONTINUED SUPPORT THIS PARTNERSHIP.
IT IS A TRUE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, AND WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU. THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
THAT IS UNANIMOUS FOR ALL THAT ARE PRESENT.
[VI.B Discuss and Receive an Update on Current and Completed Projects. (M.Hay)]
>> ITEM 6B, DISCUSS AND RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON CURRENT AND COMPLETED PROJECTS.
>> BIG UPDATE FOR THE SANDHILL CRANE.
I THINK WE ARE AT THE VERY TAILED END OF THINGS BEING DONE.
THERE WAS A WHOLE CREW OUT THERE THIS WEEK.
MAYBE THAT WAS YESTERDAY, I GUESS IT WAS YESTERDAY, DOING THE FINAL TOUCHES ON LITTLE TOUCH UP PAINT, FINISHING LEVELING WHATEVER LITTLE AREAS IN THE FIELD.
WE ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO BEING FINISHED WITH THE SOCCER COMPLEX AND READY TO GET IT OPEN.
>> WHEN'S THE SIGN OFF HAPPENING FOR THAT?
>> I DO NOT KNOW THAT, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT SHOULD BE ANY TIME.
I'LL FOLLOW IT HAPPENING, BUT WHEN I TALKED WITH ONE OF THE INSPECTORS YESTERDAY, HE SAID THEY HAD A FULL CREW OUT THERE TRYING TO KNOCK IT ALL.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT STILL EXISTING WITH THE FIELD?
>> THEY WERE OUT THERE PUTTING SAND AND LEVELING AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
I THINK THEY'RE ALL TAKEN CARE OF.
>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO'S GOING TO CHECK THAT?
>> WE HAVE INSPECTORS ON THE JOB.
>> I JUST SPOKE TO THE INSPECTOR ABOUT IT YESTERDAY, AND I KNOW I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH DAN, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A GROUP OF THEM THAT WENT OUT THERE AS WELL END OF LAST WEEK TO REVIEW, SO I'LL FIND.
>> HOW FAR BEHIND SCHEDULE ARE WE ON THAT? I THINK IT'S WELL OVER A YEAR.
>> WE CAN GIVE YOU A REPORT ON THAT.
WE CAN GIVE YOU A REPORT ON WHAT THE ACTUAL SCHEDULE WAS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
>> THAT REPORT, YOU COULD CIRCULATE THAT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
>> CERTAINLY, WE'LL GIVE IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
>> IS THERE A WAY FOR SOME BOARD REVIEW BEFORE THERE'S SIGN OFF ON THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UP TO STANDARD BEFORE WE CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY SIGN OFF ON IT, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE A REPORT THAT SAYS EVERYTHING'S BEEN MET BY THE CONTRACTOR BEFORE WE JUST GO SIGN OFF ON IT, AND THERE'S ANY ISSUES, LET'S SAY, IF YOU PUT FRESH SAND DOWN A GOOD RENAL, LEVEL DOWN THE SAND BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME COMPOSITION AS DIRT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CONSTRAINT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT ON, BUT I THINK GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN OVER EIGHT MONTHS OR SO, WE COULD I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING A GOOD PRODUCT BEFORE WE SIGN OFF ON IT.
>> I THINK ONE THING TO NOTICE TO GUYS THAT I MEAN, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, THE DATE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BURN INTO THEIR BRAIN IS THE DATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY REACHED THE DATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
THAT'S USUALLY WHEN YOU DEVELOP THE PUNCH LIST, AND THEN THE PUNCH LIST HAS TO BE RESOLVED BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE FINAL COMPLETION.
BUT THE DATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS WHEN THAT PLACE BECOMES, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE FOR BENEFICIAL OCCUPANCY BY THE OWNER.
IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE OVER INSURANCE AND WHEN WARRANTIES BEGIN.
IT'S THE DATE THAT IF YOU EVER HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT PROPERTY AND YOU WANT TO RESOLVE IT IN A MANNER THAT REQUIRES PEOPLE IN SUITS.
IT'S THE DATE FROM SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION THAT SETS THAT STARTS THAT BURN TIME.
I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY A DATE WE WANT TO PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO.
YOUR HAMMER OUGHT TO BE THAT UNTIL IT'S FIXED, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEIR RETAINAGE, I WOULD IMAGINE, AND THERE OUGHT TO BE A GOOD CHUNK OF RETAINAGE OUT ON THAT JOB.
>> PLUS, YOU'LL BE REVIEWING THAT ALSO. WON'T YOU? YOU'LL BE KEEPING TRACK OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MET ALL THE OBLIGATIONS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
>> THAT'S PART OF OUR STANDARD CLOSE OUT PROCESS ON.
HE'LL COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL USUALLY FOR CLOSE OUT IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE ORDERS THAT NEED TO BE RECONCILED AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
>> WE HAVE ANY BUILT INTO OUR CONTRACT.
THIS IS TO BE FINISHED BY XYZ BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THIS IS OVER A YEAR.
I WAS TOLD AS RECENT AS LAST WEEK THAT THERE WERE MAJOR ISSUES WITH THE FIELDS.
I AM BEING BOMBARDED WITH CALLS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO OPEN,
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BUT THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IS WE OPEN AND SOMEBODY GETS INJURED BECAUSE THE FIELD IS INADEQUATE.WHAT KIND OF PROTECTIONS DO WE BUILD INTO OUR CONTRACTS?
>> WE HOLD BACK RETAINAGE ON IT.
WE ALSO HAVE PERFORMANCE BONDS, SEVERAL BONDS THAT WE CAN GO AFTER THE INSURANCE COMPANIES IF THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BID DOCUMENTS AND THE CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> MY QUESTION, YOU BACK TO WHAT I MENTIONED, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE AND SO FORTH.
WHO DOES THAT? IS THE INSPECTORS DO THAT OR SOMEONE FROM THE CITY? WHO DOES THAT AT THE CITY?
>> IT IS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT IN ENGINEERING.
>> YES. THEN WE ALSO HAVE A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT THAT ALSO TRIPLE CHECKS EVERYTHING.
>> WHO IS THE THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT? IS THAT ACTUALLY SOMEONE WHO IS INVOLVED IN THE SOCCER INDUSTRY SINCE WE KNOW THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE'VE HAD IS THE FIELDS?
>> IT'S CLARK CONDON, AND I BELIEVE WE REMEMBER CZER COULD SPEAK TO THEIR EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA.
WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THEM EARLIER, THEY'RE ONE OF THE MOST EXPERIENCED IN THIS WHOLE AREA.
>> YES. BILLY, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT?
>> I MET CONTENT THE VERY QUALIFIED LANDSCAPING FIRM.
I DON'T KNOW THEIR TEAM EXACTLY HANDLING THE FIELDS.
MARIA, IT DEPENDS ON THE TEAM, RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY'S TEAMS ARE SO FLUID.
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE WORKING FOR ONE GUY ONE DAY AND ONE GUY THE NEXT.
A COMPANY OF THAT CALIBER IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ATHLETIC FIELDS AND LANDSCAPING, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY HAVE A DEDICATED TEAM MEMBER, MAYBE EVEN A SUBCONSULTANT UNDER THEIR PURVIEW, IF YOU WILL, THAT THAT'S WATCHING THAT FIELD.
I GO BY THERE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING A HOUSE JUST PAST IT BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND WHERE WE'RE BUILDING.
I CAN TELL THAT SOMEBODY OUT THERE HAS RECEIVED SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS.
THEY'VE WORKED SOME DRAINAGE BETWEEN FIELDS.
THEY'RE SENDING DIVOTS AND WORKING IN NEW SEED IN PLACES.
THEY'RE GETTING GOOD DIRECTION.
HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO BE BEFORE IT? SOMEBODY SAYS IT'S READY TO PLAY.
IT'S PROBABLY MORE OF AN ISSUE OF IS THE FIELD GOING TO BE DAMAGED BY PLAYING ON IT NOW BY DELIVERING IT PREMATURELY RATHER THAN GETTING SOMEBODY HURT.
THE FIELDS LOOK PRETTY PRETTY GOOD, THE GRASS IS AT THE RIGHT HEIGHT OR CLOSE NOW.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY GETTING CLOSE.
I WOULD HAVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT TO KNOW HOW CLOSE.
>> I RECALL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE ISSUES WERE UNDULATIONS IN THE FIELD THAT WERE DEEMED UNSAFE AND POOLING OF WATER BECAUSE OF INCORRECT DRAINAGE.
THAT WAS PRIMARILY. THEN I RECALL THAT MR. CALZER RECOMMENDED A FIELD TURF SPECIALIST.
WAS THERE EVER A FIELD TURF SPECIALIST BROUGHT IN TO REVIEW, TO INSPECT.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE A FEW WALK THROUGHS.
I WAS AT ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY HAD THEIR OWN SPECIALISTS WHO WALKED EVERY INCH OF THE FIELD THE FIELDS.
>> THEY WERE BROUGHT IN LATER ON?
>> THEY WERE BROUGHT OF THEIR TEAM TO BEGIN WITH.
I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT, BUT I KNOW THEY HAD SOME FOLKS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY THERE AND SAID WALKED EVERY INCH OF THE FIELD, TOOK PHOTOS.
>> THEY'RE THE ONES HERE READY TO SIGN OFF ON THE FIELD?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A COMBINATION OF OUR SILLY GUYS AND THERE'S PROBABLY A TEAM.
>> THEY GIVE A RECOMMENDATION.
>> THE ARCHITECT ON THAT ONE IS KIRKSEY, RIGHT?
>> KIRKSEY IS GOING TO BE THEY'RE THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD.
THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING.
ALL THE CITY'S AGREEMENT IS GOING TO BE WITH KIRKSEY.
KIRKSEY IS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT SIGNS OFF ON ITS SIGN, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION OR PROBABLY ALREADY HAS SIGNED IT, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO SIGN OFF ON THE PUNCH LIST THAT SAY THAT THE PROJECT IS READY FOR RELEASE OF RETAINAGE.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO RESPECT COMMUNICATION LINES THERE, TALK TO KIRKSEY AND FIND OUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY SIGNING OFF ON WHOEVER THIS SUB CONSULTANT IS ON THEIR BEHALF BECAUSE I THINK KIRKSEY PROBABLY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS CONCERNED, AND THIS ISN'T THE A RUBBER STAMP PUNCH LIST HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, ISSUE FINAL PAYMENT TYPE OF A SITUATION.
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I THINK I KNOW THE GUYS OVER AT KIRKSEY AND THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD FIRM.IF YOU TELL THEM YOU'RE CONCERNED, IT WILL HEIGHTEN THEIR CONCERN.
>> BILLY, I THOUGHT YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS GREAT, AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL CHECK OFF IS FROM CLARK CONDON/FIELD TOUR SPECIALIST.
>> WE ACTUALLY DID SEND SOMEBODY OUT THERE, JASON.
ONE OF OUR GUYS DID IT ON THE ON THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CALL IT GRATIS.
THE THINGS HE WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT ARE THE SAME THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN GOING ON OUT THERE.
I THINK THE GUYS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WATCH THAT CREW, AND IT'S DETAIL WORK AT THIS POINT BUT IT'S GROWING IN THOSE DIVOTS.
AT SOME POINT, SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A CALL ON, IT'S PROBABLY SAFE TO PLAY TODAY, BECAUSE THEY'VE ADJUSTED AT THE GRASSES AT THE RIGHT HEIGHT OR DAMN CLOSE, BUT IT'S AT WHAT POINT DO YOU GET ON IT PREMATURELY AND DAMAGE THE FIELD AND DO SOMETHING THAT MAY IMPACT YOUR WARRANTIES? THAT'S THE THING THAT SOMEBODY ON THE KIRKSEY/CLARK CONDON SIDE NEEDS TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT.
IF THIS WAS NOT BROUGHT UP THE CONCERNS THAT OUR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE BRINGING UP HERE, WERE YOU BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE BOARD HERE FOR A FINAL APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING?
>> NO. THE AGREEMENT IS BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY ADMINISTERS IT AFTER THE FACTS.
IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO CLOSE THE PROJECT DOWN WITH RELATION TO THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CONTRACT AND CHANGE ORDERS FROM DOLLAR AMOUNTS, WHETHER UP OR DOWN, FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE, THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THAT DETERMINATION.
>> BUT THAT WOULD NOT COME HERE FIRST.
>> THEN WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING, MICHELLE.
>> POSSIBLY LOOKING AT MAYBE A NOVEMBER MEETING.
>> WELL, WHEN I HEAR THE BOARD SAYING THAT WE WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
>> WE CAN DEFINITELY SEND IT ALL THE INFORMATION WE HAVE TO CITY SECRETARY FOR THE PROJECT CLOSE OUT DOCUMENTS.
>> WELL, BUT WE NEED TO GET IT ON.
IF WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM OR WE'RE GOING TO MEET IN NOVEMBER.
NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BOARD.
DOES THE BOARD WANT TO BRING THAT BACK HERE FOR AN UPDATE BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL?
>> REQUIRE A SPECIAL MEETING UNLESS WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.
>> I MEAN I APPRECIATE OUR CONCERNS, MAYOR, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MICROMANAGING THE PROJECT.
IF WE CAN'T TRUST THE TEAM HERE AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATORS AND THE PAID CONSULTANTS TO DELIVER A GOOD PRODUCT, THAT SHOULDN'T BE OUR PURVIEW AS IDC MEMBERS.
I MEAN, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE A CONCERN AND WE KNOW THE PROJECTS TAKING TOO LONG.
IF WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THAT, WE SHOULD HAVE BUILT IN SOME PARAMETERS FOR DISCOUNTS OR OTHER THINGS. WE DIDN'T DO THAT.
SO TO DO THAT AFTER THE FACT, IT SEEMS WE'RE GETTING IN A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA.
YOU CAN TELL FROM MY PHYSIQUE THAT I HAVEN'T SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON SOCCER FIELDS.
I WOULDN'T KNOW. I'M NOT VERY QUALIFIED TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT I THINK SOME OF THESE PAID PEOPLE SHOULD BE.
>> I'M SURE NOT QUALIFIED FOR THAT.
>> MAYOR, I THINK WE COULD RELEASE TO THE IDC MEMBERS WHAT'S BEING RELEASED AT COUNCIL SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE, AND PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO COMMENT WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
BUT I DO THINK IN ALL FUTURE CONTRACTS, WE SHOULD BE WRITING IN CONDITIONS THAT COVER US FOR OVER A YEAR OR SO DELAY.
>> THE INDUSTRY HAS GOTTEN AWAY FROM LIQUIDATED DAMAGES BECAUSE NUMBER 1, THE QUALITY OF THE DRAWINGS THAT YOU BUILD OFF OF EVERY TIME YOU FIND ONE MISTAKE, IT BECOMES A BOOKKEEPING EXERCISE WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON.
WHEN THE CITY DOESN'T AND I'M NOT SAYING THE CITY BEING THE CITY, BUT THE CITY AS A CLIENT, EVERY CLIENT, EVERY TIME YOU MAKE A CHANGE, THEN THE CONTRACTOR FEELS OBLIGATED TO NOTE THAT CHANGE.
WELL, THAT'S GOING TO COST MORE TIME.
THEN IT BECOMES SUCH A STRUGGLE THROUGH THE JOB THAT ALL YOU'RE DOING IS MANAGING LIQUIDATED DAMAGES ON JOBS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM LIKE A THIRD-PARTY.
AS AN ARCHITECT, I'M EMBARRASSED TO SAY IT, THE QUALITY OF DOCUMENTS IN THE FIELD RIGHT NOW IS UNDER A LOT OF SCRUTINY.
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SAME THING GOES WITH THE CONTRACTORS, EVERYBODY IS DEALING WITH THE SAME PROBLEM.NOBODY HAS GOT REALLY A LOT OF THE QUALIFIED HELP.
I KNOW THE WORKPLACE IN TEXAS IS AWESOME, AND IT'S STRESSED EVERYBODY'S WORKLOADS.
THE ONE THING, I TYPICALLY AGREE WITH KEITH AND I THINK PRETTY SIMILARLY, BUT I WILL SAY IN THIS PART, I THINK THE REASON THAT THE RESOLUTION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM CAME TO A HEAD WAS BECAUSE IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THIS MEETING EIGHT WEEKS AGO.
IT GOT SOME ATTENTION AND THEY RESOLVED IT.
EIGHT WEEKS AGO, THIS THING WAS NOT IN A GOOD CONDITION.
LOOKING AT IT TODAY, IT IS BETTER, AND I THINK THAT PART OF THAT RESOLUTION WAS BECAUSE IT GOT SOME ATTENTION AT THIS MEETING.
>> BOARD, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I MENTION A THING, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE CONTRACT NOW WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT ADDRESSES TIME OVERRUNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND PENALTIES OR ANYTHING?
>> HARD TO DO ON OUTSIDE PROJECT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THE PROJECTS.
>> I THINK ALL OF THE CITY PROJECTS TYPICALLY HAVE.
>> WE HAVE DATES OF COMPLETION WITHIN OUR CONTRACTS.
BUT THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD INCENTIVIZE THEM IS YOU WOULD SAY YOU WOULD GET PAID EXTRA AMOUNT IF YOU COMPLETED WITHIN THE CERTAIN BENCHMARKS, AND SO YOU INCENTIVIZE THEM TO BRING MORE STAFF AND TURN OVER THE PROJECT.
BUT THIS PROJECT WAS COMPLETED IN JULY.
SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE IN JULY, AND SO THEY'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE PUNCH LIST AND EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S USUALLY THE DATE THAT YOU REQUIRE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE'RE MONTHS BEYOND THAT AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH WITH PUNCH LIST ITEMS. THINGS UP.
>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CITY ALREADY ACCEPTED IT AS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE SO MANY FIELD ISSUES?
>> NO. IT'S NOT ACCEPTED UNTIL WE RELEASE RETAINAGE ON THE PROJECT AND WE CLOSE IT OUT.
>> THAT'S WHEN THE PUNCH LIST IS FINALIZED.
LET'S DO THIS IF THE BOARD IS IN FAVOR OF THIS.
THIS WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL.
YOU NEED TO SEND THE INFORMATION AND THE PACKING MATERIAL AND THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL AND SO FORTH THAT COUNCIL WILL BE GETTING NEEDS TO GO TO THIS BOARD, IF WE COULD, TO MAKE SURE THEY GET IT AS COUNCIL GETS IT.
THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS AND HAVE INPUT AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
>> ACTUALLY, I JUST GOT AN UPDATE.
THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE WAS SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025, AND SO IT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE ON JULY 16TH, 2025.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AS FAR AS SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE.
>> BUT I MEAN, IT STILL MISSED THE SOCCER SEASON.
THE OPTICS ON THIS PROJECT HAVE BEEN AWFUL.
THAT'S WHAT I HEAR, ALL THE PARENTS OF ALL THE SOCCER PLAYERS, NOTHING BUT NEGATIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE TRAVELING OFF THE ISLAND TO PLAY HOME GAMES.
I KNOW DATING BACK ALMOST 10 YEARS NOW FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE ORIGINAL GOALS OF THE IDC BACK AT THAT TIME, WERE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THAT WAS HIGH QUALITY, COMPETITIVE WITH ALL OF OUR PEERS IN THE COUNTY SO THAT OUR KIDS THEN HAVE TO CONTINUE TO CROSS THE CAUSEWAY EVERY SATURDAY TO PLAY HOME GAMES.
THAT'S WHY I THINK THE CRITICISM IS DEEP AMONG THIS BOARD.
I THINK IT'S JUSTIFIED AS WELL.
WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN HOST TOURNAMENTS AS WELL.
BECAUSE OF ALL THESE ISSUES, THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MUCH SKEPTICISM ABOUT EVER SEEING SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT'S HIGH QUALITY THAT THE RESIDENTS HERE DESERVE, THAT THE KIDS HERE DESERVE, AND THE PARENTS DESERVE AS WELL.
DOESN'T MEAN I WANT TO FOLLOW A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN WE NORMALLY DO.
I APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH US, BUT THERE IS A DEEP SENSE OF FRUSTRATION ON THIS PROJECT AMONG THIS COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE KIDS IN THE SOCCER LEAGUES.
>> THIS PROJECT, THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE WAS SEPTEMBER OF 2025, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YES. BECAUSE THERE WAS 658 CONTRACT DAYS BUILT INTO THE PROJECT.
>> WHEN DID WE ACTUALLY SIGN THE CONTRACT? BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT A LOT?
>> 11/12/'23 IS WHEN THE CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED.
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>> VERY GOOD. ANY MORE INPUT ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT?
>> I DO ECHO WHAT JASON IS SAYING BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY FRUSTRATED PARENTS OUT THERE RIGHTFULLY.
MAYBE WE WANT TO PUT TOGETHER SOME PRESS RELEASE TO UPDATE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING ON WAY TOO LONG.
>> WHERE DOES THE SOCCER SEASON RUN, MR. HARDCASTLE?
>> THERE'S FALL AND SPRING SEASONS, SO WE LOST THE FALL SEASON BASICALLY. IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
DESPITE IT'S BEEN GOING SO LONG, MY SOCCER PLAYING DAUGHTERS ARE NO LONGER PLAYING SOCCER.
BUT IT'S TYPICALLY WRAPS UP IN NOVEMBER.
>> THE FRUSTRATION, JASON, IS FROM THE COMPLETION DATE BECAUSE THE COMPLETION DATE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THAT BIG OF A CONCERN HERE.
>> THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON THE IDC BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME.
LET'S GO BACK TO WHEN I WAS COACHING, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN AND WAS COACHING.
WE WERE OUT ON THE FIELD, SOME PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SHAPE OF THE FIELD AND SAYING IT'S ON THE WAY.
IT'S BEING WORKED ON IN IDC, AND IT'S ON THE BOOKS.
IT'S BEING DEVELOPED AND DESIGNED.
THEN THAT WAS BACK AT LEAST FIVE YEARS AGO [OVERLAPPING]
>> WITH THE BALL FIELDS OUT THERE AND THE BOARD DECIDED TO FUND THE LITTLE LEAGUE BALL FIELDS THERE.
>> NONETHELESS, THE FIELD WAS IN AWFUL SHAPE WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE PLAYING.
PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED TO PLAY 40 ON 40 SOCCER OUT THERE, TEARING UP THE FIELD, VERY FEW LIGHTS, AFTER BIG RAIN AND EVERYTHING, AND SINCE MY NOW 13-YEAR-OLD WAS PLAYING SOCCER IN THE LITTLE JUNIOR LEAGUES AND EVERYTHING, AND WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A FIELD OUT THERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR INVESTMENT, AND THEN PEOPLE DRIVING BY IT ALL THE TIME, LEAVING THE ISLAND FROM THAT AREA, AS WELL, EVERY SATURDAY GOING INTO THE SOCCER GAMES, WHEN THESE THINGS GOING TO BE FINISHED.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S WORK GOING ON OUT THERE.
NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STALLED.
I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME, AND I'VE BEEN HEARING IT FOR YEARS, AND IT'S JUST BEEN A DEEP SENSE OF FRUSTRATION AMONG PARENTS AND PLAYERS HAVING TO DRIVE OFF THE ISLAND FOR HOME GAMES EVERY SINGLE SATURDAY.
>> WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD.
MARIE MENTIONED ABOUT GIVING AN UPDATE SOME WAY OR ANOTHER TO OUR COMMUNITY ON WHERE WE ARE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT.
>> AS A FORMER SOCCER PARENT, I'VE WATCHED THIS AS WELL IN A FEW YEARS MORE THAN THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH IS A GREAT PRODUCT THAT EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPY WITH.
I KNOW WITH TIME IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD WHEN MY KIDS PLAYED SOCCER.
WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THOUGH WE DON'T OPEN IT UP PREMATURELY.
I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S AT THE BEST LEVEL IT CAN BE.
>> ONCE THEY GET OUT THERE AND START PLAYING AND THE FIELD IS APPROPRIATE, THESE FRUSTRATIONS WILL PROBABLY START GOING AWAY.
BUT IF THAT FIELD IS NOT APPROPRIATE THOUGH, WHEN THIS OPENS UP, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, AS YOU CAN HEAR FROM THIS BOARD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IT SHOULD BE.
>> I KNOW OUR FOLKS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE MAKING SURE THAT IT'S [OVERLAPPING]
>> SOUNDS GOOD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS, MARIE.
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE ACTUALLY A WRITTEN DOCUMENT ON THE TIMELINE BECAUSE FROM MY RECOLLECTION, WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT LONGER WAY BEFORE THAT.
I WOULD JUST PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE A REVIEW OF THE TIMELINE.
>> WE HAD DESIGN, AND THEN WE HAD CONSTRUCTION.
SO MAYBE THAT'S THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU'LL SEND THAT OF COURSE TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS HERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THAT AND MICHELLE, ANY OTHER UPDATE ON THAT?
>> I DO NOT THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER PROJECTS.
UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY IN PARTICULAR?
>> I DO. SOUTH SHORE PUMP STATION.
>> WE HAVE THE TOWN HALL OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE MEETING COMING UP NEXT WEEK ON MEMORY SERVES.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN IS THAT THE 15TH OR 16TH OR 17TH.
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THE 15TH? 15TH AT 5:15, IS THAT CORRECT?>> WE'LL HAVE THE DESIGN CONSULTANTS THERE, PROBABLY SOME MEMBERS FROM THE CONTRACTORS TEAM, CITY STAFF THERE TO BE ABLE TO ROLL OUT THE INITIAL GAME PLAN, THE SCHEDULE, AND THEN ADDRESS ANY LOCALIZED ISSUES WITH THE RESIDENTS THERE.
>> BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THE PUMP STATION, WE WERE INFORMED ALSO THAT THE EXTENSION WAS ASKED FROM THE GLO AND WE'RE RUNNING UP ON A YEAR OF THAT EXTENSION.
SO MAYBE THERE'S 13, 14 MONTHS THAT WE HAVE TO GET TO X AMOUNT OF COMPLETION BEFORE THE GLO, I GUESS, DOES A REVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROJECT PHASE.
MY CONCERN IS THAT EITHER THE GLO SAYS, GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE VOICED A COUNCIL.
I SEE A PROBLEM WITH HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN WHERE WE'RE AT.
MY BIG CONCERN IS GLO ESSENTIALLY TAKING THEIR MONEY BACK AND THEN WE'RE LEFT HIGH AND DRY.
[BACKGROUND] DRY WOULD BE NICE IN THAT AREA.
WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IF IT COMES TO IT.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE LOOKING TO SECURE THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF FEDERAL RED TAPE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT MONEY.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO BETTER EDUCATE THE GLO STAFF ON SOME OF THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
I'M SURE THEY'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH ANYWAY, AND HOW THAT RELATES TO ACQUISITION OF THESE TYPES OF EASEMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT REALLY DRAWS OUT THE PROCESS.
IT'S NOT LIKE LOCAL MONEY THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND WE'RE A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE WITH.
WE'VE GOT TO COMPLY WITH ALL THESE HUD REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THAT PARTICULAR FUNDING SOURCE.
WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE COME TO IT.
WE'VE GOT A LATE CONTRACT AND WE'RE PLANNING TO START TURNING DIRT HERE SOON.
>> DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO TURN DIRT?
>> JUST ASKED FOR THE MOST RECENT SCHEDULE.
I THINK THEY MET ON IT YESTERDAY.
THE ENGINEERS DID, SO TO HAMMER OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS, AND THEN SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
>> WHEN THIS ALL STARTED, BRANDON, DID YOU HAVE A TIMELINE THAT YOU WERE WORKING WITH THAT YOU FELT YOU WOULD MOVE THROUGH, ARE YOU RUNNING BEHIND ON THAT? HOW MUCH ARE WE RUNNING BEHIND?
>> WELL, IT CAN GET DICEY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH.
I'M AT LIBERTY TO SAY BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROCEEDINGS THAT WILL BE INVOLVED WITH THE EASEMENTS.
IT MAY END UP HAVING TO GO TOWARD A LITIGATION TYPE ROUTE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TEMPORARY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT'S IN LEGAL'S HANDS AT THIS POINT.
>> SO THIS HAS SLOWED THINGS DOWN THOUGH?
>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THAT'S BEEN THE MAJOR IMPEDIMENT TO THIS WHOLE PROJECT.
AND REALLY, THE EASEMENTS ARE TO PROVIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS AN ADDITIONAL MEANS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT WHEN ALL THE STREETS ARE TORN UP, THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL WAYS TO GET IN AND OUT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION, AND THIS WOULD GO BACK, I THINK BEFORE 2020.
DID THE IDC EVER CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE 14TH STREET PUMP STATION?
>> THAT PROJECT IS LOOKING TO GO OUT TO BID LATER ON THIS YEAR ON THE 14TH STREET PUMP STATION.
>> BUT DID THE IDC CONTRIBUTE TO THAT?
>> YEAH. THAT WAS PART OF THE DEBT THAT THE IDC ISSUED.
I THINK SHE'S ASKING ABOUT 2020 PRIOR TO.
>> I'M ASKING WHAT THE TIMELINE WAS THAT.
A DOLLAR OF THE IDC MONEY HASN'T GONE INTO THAT PROJECT YET.
THERE IS MONEY RESERVED FOR THAT PROJECT WHEN IT GOES TO BID.
>> HOW LONG HAS THE MONEY BEEN RESERVED?
>> SINCE WE ISSUED THE DEBT IN 2022.
>> IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT BECAUSE I KNOW EVEN IN COUNCIL,
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WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING ON THAT.>> AT THIS POINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT BID IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
IT'S PRETTY WELL DONE WITH DESIGN, JUST DOTTING THE IS, CROSSING THE TS, AND IT'S REALLY JUST BEING ABLE TO ADMINISTRATIVELY PUSH IT OUT.
THIS CURRENT IDC BOARD APPROVED ONE LAST YEAR FOR THE 14TH STREET IN SOUTH SHORE, AND THEN 2022, THERE WAS THE CO BOND, WHICH WAS THE 60/40 SPLIT BETWEEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE SILO.
WE HAVE TWO BONDS ON THESE TWO PROJECTS.
>> FOR THAT, IT'S ONE BOND ON THAT PROJECT.
THE OTHER ONE IS FOR SAND HILL CRAG BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE CASH IN ORDER TO FUND THAT, SO WE HAD TO ISSUE DEBT ON THAT ONE AS WELL.
THEN THROW ADDITIONAL HIGH TAX MONEY AT IT.
>> I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FIVE YEAR FORECAST.
YOU HAVE ON THE I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE LINE ITEM NUMBER 7, 08,070 CALL OUT IN THE FUTURE.
ALSO ON 12, IT SAYS 14TH STREET SOUTH SHORE BOND PROJECT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY BEARINGS RIGHT HERE.
>> THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CO BONDS FOR 14TH STREET IN SOUTH SHORE.
>> THE DEBT SERVICE IS PAYING THE BOND OFF AND THEN THE 12 WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF.
ANY EXPENDITURES THAT WENT TOWARDS THAT PROJECT.
>> THERE'S NOTHING RIGHT NOW ASSUMED WITH WHAT EXPENDITURES ARE COMING OUT OF ON THAT LINE ITEM NUMBER 12, AM I CORRECT? I LOOKING AT THAT.
>> IT MAY BE EASIER TO SEE IF YOU'RE IN THE OPEN PROJECTS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS HERE, ANY EXPENSES CURRENTLY WOULD FALL UNDER CURRENT PROJECT, LET ME SEE, THERE'S EXPENDITURES.
THEN YOUR TABLE DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM IS GOING TO GET YOU WHATEVER IS NOT ENCUMBERED.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THE OPEN PROJECTS, IT WILL GIVE YOU MORE SPECIFICS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
>> GOT YOU. THERE'S THE BIGGER PICTURE ON THE PUMP STATIONS, HOW MANY WE WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE AND WHAT IS THE TIMELINE OR WHAT'S THE PERCEPTION OF HOW THEY'LL BE BUILT?
>> MASTER PLANS, I BELIEVE THERE'S SEVEN OR EIGHT CALLED OUT IN THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.
THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN AVERAGE IN ABOUT 15, 20 YEARS TO BUILD ONE OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT'S REQUIRED IN ORDER TO FINANCE THEM?
>> THE SECOND ONE IS 14TH STREET?
THEN THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE THE TONY BROTHERS PROPERTY.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEN CARWH?
>> THE CITY BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.
>> BUT THERE'S NO FEDERAL MONEY ATTACHED TO THAT YET OR ANY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
>> THAT WOULD BE NUMBER THREE, NUMBER FOUR.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE NUMBER THREE OR FOUR, DEPENDING ON HOW IT EVENTUALLY SHAKES OUT AND HOW THE MONEY TRICKLES IN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IF IT TRICKLES IN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> DAN TO YOUR QUESTION. I THINK THEY PROGRAM A BRANCH BRANDOM ENGINE SIMILAR.
>> BUT THE OVERALL THINKING IS ONCE YOU GET I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, JASON, ONCE YOU GET THE FIRST PUMP STATION IN IN A PERFECT WORLD, IT ALLEVIATES SOME OF THE OTHER BASINS SO THAT ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS AS YOU PROGRESS TO THE EAST DRAINAGE MIGHT BE IMPROVED.
LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE FIRST ONE GOING IN AT SOUTH SHORE AFFECT THE 47TH STREET PROBLEMS?
>> WELL, THAT ONE, YOU PROBABLY WILL SEE SOME RELIEF ON IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS LAID OUT.
YOU'VE GOT A LARGE LINE THAT TERMINATES THERE IN ENGLISH BAYOU, AND IT GOES DOWN AVENUE P ALL THE WAY TO ABOUT 42ND STREET OR SO.
THAT ONE YOU PROBABLY WILL SEE SOME RELIEF THERE SOUTH OF THAT LINE, AND THEN ALSO ANYTHING FROM NORTH THAT WOULD OVERFLOW INTO IT.
BUT THAT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION AND AND PART OF THE ISSUES WITH THAT DRAINAGE BASIN.
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>> BUT THE MAJOR RELIEF FROM THAT SAME AREA WOULD COME FROM THE TONY BROTHERS PUMP STATION, WHATEVER NUMBER THAT IS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT WOULD THAT'S A DIFFERENT BASIN, SO THAT WOULD TAKE THE AVENUE LINE OVER THERE IN ANY KIND OF OVERFLOW.
THEY WOULD WORK IN TANDEM WITH ONE ANOTHER AND PROVIDE SOME REDUNDANCIES THERE AS WELL IN CASE ONE OF THEM.
>> REALLY NEEDS ONE OF THOSE TO MAKE A MAJOR DIFFERENCE DOWN THERE.
>> WE WAY DOWN IN 14TH STREET DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING AT 45TH STREET, OBVIOUSLY.
>> IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THE 14TH STREET PUMP IS ELIGIBLE FOR DIFFERENT FUNDING THAN THE SOUTH SHORE?
>> CORRECT. THAT'S FMA MITT MONEY ON 14TH STREET, AND IT'S CDBG MONEY FOR THE SOUTH SHORE.
>> BUT ALL OF THEM ARE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE FEDERAL FUNDING, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.
>> WHAT ARE WE DOING TO LOBBY FOR THAT, TO PUSH FOR THAT? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS MORE CRITICAL THAN THE DIKE.
WE HEAR ALL ABOUT THE E.G DIKE AND ALL THAT WE'RE GOING TOWARDS THAT, BUT THESE PUMP STATIONS, AND IT SOUNDS TO ME HEARING THAT ON MAY HAVE SOME POSITIVE EFFECT, BUT IT'S REALLY GOING TO TAKE AN ENTIRE SYSTEM OF PUMP STATIONS GOING IN, WHICH IS TREMENDOUSLY EXPENSIVE UNDERSTANDABLY.
BUT WHAT KIND OF EFFORTS ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. EVEN WITH THE IKE DIKE, THE CITY IS STILL GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO GET ALL THE STORM WATER TO THE FEDERAL PUMP STATIONS, THE VERY LARGE ONES, AND THAT'S WHY THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN WAS DESIGNED AROUND THAT WHOLE CONCEPT.
RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT APPLICATION CURRENTLY IN FOR THE DESIGN ON 37TH, AND HARBOR SIDE ON PORT PROPERTY THERE IS THE NEXT ONE WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
JUST GIVEN SOME OF THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'VE DECIDED TO NOT GO AFTER THE WHOLE CHATA AND THEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THEY'RE SO DRAWN OUT, YOU'RE TALKING 2.5 YEARS ON AVERAGE FOR DESIGN ON THESE KIND OF PROJECTS.
NO TELLING WHAT INFLATION DOES AND YOU'RE ON THE HOOK.
WE'VE BEEN PIECEMEALING IT OUT AND GOING AFTER THE DESIGN FIRST AND HAVING PLANS SITTING ON THE SHELF SO THAT THEN WE CAN GO OUT AND GO AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS TO TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE RISK OF INFLATIONARY ISSUES, ESPECIALLY AS WE GO INTO UNKNOWN TERRITORY WITH A LOT OF THE TARIFFS OUT THERE.
>> AS FAR AS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BUDGET, AGAIN, GUESTIMATE, WHAT THE COST OF A PUMP STATION IS, THE PUMP STATIONS RELATIVELY IRRELEVANT WHEN YOU HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S REQUIRED.
YOU CAN'T JUST SAY IT'S $60 MILLION FOR ALL THE PUMP STATIONS.
BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU'VE GOT TO THEN CHANGE ALL THE DRAINAGE ON 45TH STREET AND TIE INTO ALL THAT, IT COULD BE $100 MILLION.
THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY CAN'T CALCULATE THE TOTAL.
>> UNDER SOUTH SHORE, ABOUT 50% OF THE COST WAS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN 50% WAS FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF.
THAT'S THE SAME THING ON 14TH STREET.
BUT AS CONCRETE AND STEEL STARTS CHANGING PRICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THEN WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT RATIO STARTS LOOKING LIKE?
>> THROW INTO THIS TOO, WHAT THE FEDERAL SUPPORT ON THESE TYPES OF THINGS WILL BE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT'S STILL A MAJOR QUESTION. SURE.
>> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, MICHELLE, ON UPDATE COMPLETED? LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 6C, PLEASE.
[VI.C Discuss and Receive an Update on the FY26 Calendar and Upcoming Events. (M. Hay)]
>> ITEM 6C. DISCUSS AND RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE FY 26 CALENDAR AND UPCOMING EVENTS.
>> I ATTACHED TO THE BACK OF YOUR SECOND PAGE THE LAST A TENTATIVE CALENDAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 WE WILL SEND ONE OUT TO YOU ALL ATTENDING VIRTUALLY.
PRETTY MUCH STANDARD FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH ON EACH MONTH.
WE ARE LOOKING AT NOVEMBER, I HAVE AN ITEM OVER HERE JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WHEN THE TDC SALES TAX WORKSHOP IS.
I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT SOME A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT ANY OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING ONE OF THE SALES TAX WORKSHOPS AND THE ONE IN HOUSTON IS GOING TO BE NOVEMBER THE 14TH.
THERE IS A DRAFT AGENDA THAT I INCLUDED AS WELL FOR YOU ALL SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT KIND OF TOPICS THEY ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING.
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IF THERE'S ANY BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING, LET ME KNOW, WE WILL HAVE TO REGISTER HERE PRETTY SOON FOR THAT SO IT DOESN'T GET FULL.>> THEN HOW LONG IS THE MEETING?
IT'S IN NORTH HOUSTON, I BELIEVE.
>> I'D HAVE TO CHECK MY SCHEDULE, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING.
>> THAT'S NOT JUST FOR THE WE HAVE THE NAGATA GROUP COMING IN FROM JAPAN.
I WON'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND FOR HOSTING HIM FOR THREE DAYS. MAYBE NEXT HERE.
>> WELL, IF ANYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED LET ME KNOW.
THEN DEPENDING ON WHERE WE MAY FALL WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS IN THE HOPPER, WE MAY OR MAY NOT NEED A NOVEMBER MEETING.
I WILL KNOW ABOUT THAT HERE PRETTY SOON.
WE'LL LET YOU ALL KNOW IF WE NEED TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING FOR NOVEMBER.
OTHERWISE, IF THERE ARE ANY CONFLICTS YOU ALL SEE WITH FISCAL YEAR 26 CALENDAR, LET ME KNOW.
WE TRY TO ADJUST FOR HOLIDAY TIME AND SUCH, IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING FALLS PRETTY GOOD AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, SO ALL RIGHT.
[VII. Request Agenda Items For Future Meetings]
>> ITEM 7. REQUEST AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.
>> THE ONLY THING, MICHELLE, I HAVE MENTIONED ABOUT WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE SIDEWALK CONCRETE CREWS.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT ON THE AGENDA AND DISCUSS THAT.
>> WELL, I CAN UPDATE YOU JUST GIVEN THE AGENDA ITEM THAT'S ON THERE RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT RESTRUCTURING THE CREW TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE CREW THAT'S DOING THE DEMOLITION ON CERTAIN PROJECTS AND THEN HAVE ANOTHER CREW THAT COMES IN TO THAT DOES THE FRAMING.
THEN WE WOULD BRING ALL HANDS ON DECK FOR THE CONCRETE POT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT TO TRY TO INCREASE OR DECREASE THE DURATION OF OPEN PROJECTS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON THE SIZE OF THE PROJECTS, OF COURSE, WITH SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL ONES.
THEY'RE A LOT LARGER, AND WE'LL TAKE A LOT MORE HANDS AND A LOT MORE TIME, FRANKLY, BUT THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT RESTRUCTURING THAT CREW TO JUST PROVIDE SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES.
>> WE DID WE DID FILL SOME OF THE OPENINGS.
>> WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL SHORT OF CREW LEADER FOR THAT CREW.
IF ANYBODY KNOWS A GOOD CONCRETE PERSON, PLEASE ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY.
>> IN OUR BUDGET, WE HAVE WE'RE PAYING FOR TWO CREWS, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> TWO OF THOSE OR JUST ONE OF THEM.
>> THIS IS HOW WE'RE STRUCTURING.
IT DEPENDS IT'S IT'S A FLIVID SITUATION DEPENDING ON ON THE PROJECT.
>> 435, WHICH BUDGETED FOR THIS COMING YEAR, HOW MANY POSITIONS DO YOU HAVE TO FILL?
>> RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ONLY THE ONE WITH THE CREW LEADER IS THE ONE WE'RE DOWN AT THIS POINT.
>> WE'RE RUNNING AS I I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY I GET CALLS FROM A YEAR AND A HALF BEHIND, IS IT WOULD THAT BE FAIR TO SAY?
>> WHEN WE STARTED, WE WERE ALREADY A YEAR BEHIND BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND.
>> WHAT REALLY SET THIS OFF, I THINK, IS THE COMMERCIAL.
ONCE WE INCLUDED COMMERCIAL IN THERE, BECAUSE WE STARTED OUT AS RESIDENTIAL.
ONCE COMMERCIAL GOT INCLUDED, THEN THAT REALLY EXTENDED THE TIME OUT BECAUSE THESE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS ARE BIG PROJECTS.
>> LARGE PROJECTS AND THEY TAKE A LONG TIME TO DO.
>> IT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU MENTIONED, BRANDON.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO TO REDUCE THAT TIME ON THESE?
>> WE'LL CONTINUE LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCIES.
AS WE AS WE GO FORWARD, AS WE TWEAK THE CREWS AND THE OPERATIONS OVER THERE.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF SYNERGIES WE CAN GIVE FROM OTHER CREWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE'LL ACTIVELY LOOK AT THAT GOING.
>> IS THIS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM?
>> WAS THAT ALWAYS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE STRUCTURE SILO.
>> IT WAS TO BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, BUT YEAH, HE INCLUDED IT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> I WOULDN'T MIND UNDERSTANDING THE SCOPE OF THIS WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
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ESPECIALLY AS IT'S BEING REVIEWED FOR GREATER EFFICIENCIES AND EVERYTHING.I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO BRING UP FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
>> ONE THING I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE BEHIND BRANDON WHAT EVERY BUSINESS DIES FOR. YOU GOT A BACKLOG.
IF YOU WERE PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, YOU'D BE BRAGGING ABOUT HOW MAN, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PAYROLL FOR A YEAR, AND YOU'VE GOT A BACKLOG AND THAT'S GOOD.
IF THE PROJECTS ARE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO WHERE WE FEEL LIKE THEY'VE GOT TO BE EXPEDITED IN SOME FASHION, I THINK WE GOT TO LOOK AT USING SOME OF THAT MONEY TO SUB IT OUT.
PUT A LITTLE PACKAGE ON THE STREET AND GET A LITTLE CONCRETE CREW TO GO OUT THERE AND DO IT.
OTHERWISE, I THINK WE JUST TAKE IT IN ORDER.
I THINK FROM BUSINESSMAN'S PERSPECTIVE, I ALMOST SLOBBERED ON MYSELF HERE AND YOU KNOW, ONE YEAR BACKLOG, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S NOT HERE AT THE END OF THE BACKLOG AND YOUR CLIENT.
>> IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY.
I'M TELLING YOU ONCE WE OPEN THAT IT WAS A FLOODGATE OF PEOPLE WANTED TO DO IT.
>> BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S SUBSIDIZED AS WELL.
>> IF YOU'RE ONLY PAYING FOR THE MATERIALS AND NO LABOR AND EQUIPMENT, THEN EVERYBODY WANTS TO SIGN UP THEN.
ONLY WAY MORE PEOPLE WANT TO SIGN UP IF YOU GIVE AWAY FOR FREE.
>> YOU CAN SLOBBER ALL YOU WANT AS LONG AS YOU'RE ON ZOOM.
>> MAYBE THEY COULD FIX THE HOLE IN THE PAVEMENT IN FRONT OF THE STEPS AT CITY HALL.
>> LET'S PUT IT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THIS FURTHER. VERY GOOD.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BOARD? BILLY AND MARIE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR ITEMS. THANK YOU, BOARD FOR BEING HERE. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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