OKAY, I'VE BEEN ADVISED IT'S 2:30 AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
[1. Call Meeting to Order]
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DUE TO SOME PEOPLE NOT SHOWING UP, I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.SO WE'LL CALL IT TO ORDER AND ATTENDANCE. WE DO BY THE SIGN IN SHEET.
[4.A. Annual Planning Commission Awards - Planning Commission review and finalize recipients.]
AND YOU WANT TO WALK US THROUGH THAT? I WILL DO MY BEST.SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP ME GET UP TO SPEED TOO.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE GOAL OF THIS WORKSHOP IS TO FINALIZE THE NOMINATIONS FOR EACH CATEGORY, WHICH I WILL THEN READ OUT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HERE IN A BIT.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT, HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK.
I THINK SO TODAY. RIGHT. THAT WILL ADOPT THEM.
WELL YEAH. YES, YES. AT THE REGULAR MEETING. OKAY.
THIS WEEK. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE MAKE THE FINAL.
YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT IF WE LOOK AT THE VOTING RECORD ON THESE, WE COULD KIND OF GO BY THAT MODE, IF YOU ALL WISH. I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND SEEN SOME OF THEM ARE SIMILAR OR CORRECTION.
SOME OF THEM ARE OPPOSED IN BOTH CULTURAL ARTS AND DEVELOPMENT BEAUTIFICATION.
SO WE HAVE SOME BACK AND FORTH. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO LOOK AT, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, I LIKE TO LOOK AND SEE HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN ON THE ON THE LIST.
AND WE DO HAVE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY UP TO THE FIVE YEAR MARK YET, WHICH IS THE LIMIT.
BUT WE DO HAVE A COUPLE AT THE THREE YEAR MARK.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A 2022 AND A 2022 2023. SO IT LOOKS LIKE.
WHICH ONES ARE THOSE? 902 NINTH STREET IS 2022, AND THEN HOMETOWN BANK AND CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD ARE BOTH 23. CORRECT? SO ON CONSENSUS SHOULD WE LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF WHETHER THEY NEED TO REMAIN ON OR NOT AND THEN HOW THAT WILL IMPACT YOUR VOTE? A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, WELL, IF THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE PUT INTO THE PACKAGE THEY'RE PROBABLY WORTHY OF SOMETHING, SOME RECOGNITION. IF WE GO BY JUST THE DEFINITION THAT THEY'RE UNDER.
LIKE WE'LL START WITH BEAUTIFICATION. WE HAVE THE FIVE VOTES LISTED FOR THE MURAL BY DOUG HISER.
WE'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT YEAR THAT WAS. A NEW ONE.
THAT'S A NEW ONE. OKAY. SO THAT'S NEW. ONLY THREE OF THOSE RECEIVED VOTES. AND THEN WE HAVE BEAUTIFICATION AND CULTURAL ARTS. OF COURSE WE HAVE. THEY KIND OF DOVETAIL WITH EACH OTHER.
AND NOTICE THAT 21ST STREET MURAL. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO COMBINED, IT'S GOT THREE VOTES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT THREE.
THREE VOTES. SO AS FAR AS BEAUTIFICATION GOES, THE MURAL, 21ST STREET MURALS KIND OF GOT PREPONDERANCE OF VOTES THAT WERE MADE BACK THEN.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT PRESENT DAY.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WAS MADE BACK THEN? WELL, WHEN WE FILLED IN THE SURVEY.
RIGHT? YEAH. SO AT THAT POINT, WE SAID, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S OUR TWO VOTES.
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OR THE OTHER? BECAUSE I THINK OR WE CAN REVOTE IF YOU WISH, IF YOU THINK THAT WE NEED TO REVOTE IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND SINCE THAT TIME, GIVEN WHAT THE VOTES HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE.I GOT THE FEELING LIKE I'M GOING TO BE A ONE VOTER IN SOME OF THESE THAT ARE IN THIS PACKAGE.
ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A CASE FOR THE 21ST STREET? WELL, TAKE. YEAH. TAKING YOUR LOGICAL APPROACH THAT THAT WOULD BE BE MY VOTE WOULD BE FOR THE SUNSHINE CENTER ON 21ST STREET FOR BEAUTIFICATION. OKAY. SAME. AND THAT IS THIS YEAR.
RIGHT. IN THAT THIS YEAR. THAT'S A NEW NOMINATION NOW.
SO THAT'S NEW. TOM, ARE YOU LEANING TOWARD THE OTHER TWO BY CHANCE? SO I GUESS I WAS LOOKING AT IT AS SO FOR BEAUTIFICATION, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, SOME OF US REMEMBER THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OVER THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE PRETTIEST BUILDING, RIGHT? IT'S A NONPROFIT, RIGHT? THEY'VE GOT LESS MONEY TO SPEND ON SERVICES, NOT ON BUILDINGS.
SO YOU KNOW THAT MURAL I THOUGHT DID A GREAT JOB OF ACTUALLY BEAUTIFYING THAT BUILDING? WHEREAS THE SUNSHINE CENTER HAS NEVER BEEN A BAD LOOKING BUILDING.
A LOT OF NICE TREES. SO THAT SEEMED TO BE MORE CULTURAL ARTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW AND KEEP IN MIND, Y'ALL CAN, YOU KNOW, SWAP THINGS AROUND TO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES IF YOU REALLY FEEL LIKE SOMETHING WANTS TO BE ON THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY HAVE ROOM FOR ONE.
SO THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT 24TH STREET ON BOTH THE CULTURAL SIDE.
LIKE. YEAH. I'M NOT, LIKE, DIGGING MY HEELS IN.
BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB MURAL FOR BEAUTIFICATION AND SUNSHINE FOR CULTURAL ARTS.
I THINK THAT'S A YOU COULD ARGUE EITHER SIDE OF THAT.
YES. THAT WAY WE GET THEM. GET THEM BOTH. SO YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB KIND OF NEEDED BEAUTIFICATION? YEAH, THAT WAS MY THINKING. YEAH.
YEAH, IT IT NEEDED BEAUTIFICATION. YEAH. AND THEN THE ONE ON THE CULTURAL SUNSHINE CENTER WAS A GOOD LOCATION FOR CULTURAL ARTS. YEAH, IT WAS BETTER AS A PUBLIC ART PIECE, YOU KNOW WHEREAS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB COULD HAVE USED JUST A NEW COAT OF PAINT. BUT THE MURAL IS FANTASTIC. I MEAN, IT'S AWESOME.
YEAH. I LOVE GOING BY THERE. YEAH, BECAUSE. IS THAT THE ONE WITH THE DOLPHIN? THE DOLPHIN IS THE SUNSHINE CENTER. CENTER? THIS ONE DOWN HERE WITH THE KIDS ON THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? YEAH. BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. YEAH. AND I LIKE THE DEPICTION OF THE CHILD AND THE LOVE.
SO. AND IT'S A WELL TRAVELED STREET, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE IT.
RIGHT. YES, SIR. SAME THING WITH 21ST. BUT IT GETS A LOT MORE TRAFFIC.
I DO LIKE THE ONE AT THE LIQUOR STORE, BUT IT'S OFFSET. IT'S ON THE IT'S ON THE.
YEAH. ON THE SIDE OR OUR SIDE. SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT.
YES. BUT IT'S A NICE ONE ALSO. YEAH. IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE CROSS STREET, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT SUGGESTION OF BEAUTIFICATION WITH ONE AND CULTURAL ARTS WITH THE OTHER.
OKAY. SO WE'LL GO WITH THE BOYS CLUB IS BEAUTIFICATION CLUB.
YEP. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE SUNSHINE CENTER CULTURAL ARTS.
COOL. I THINK THAT'S FAIR. WHERE'S CULTURAL ARTS ON THIS SHEET? THE FINAL SLATE. IT'S NOT ON THERE YET. OH, NO.
OH, INTERESTING. I SUPPOSE. YEP. THINGS GET MISSED.
Y'ALL. Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL ARE UNANIMOUS ON THOSE TWO DECISIONS.
CORRECT. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED SEQUENCE? SUNSHINE CENTER. OKAY, GOOD. THAT'S THAT. COOL.
THIS ONE IS OKAY, SO SCRATCH TWO. AND AGAIN, LIKE.
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THE LIQUOR STORE MURAL WILL BE ON FOR QUITE A WHILE BECAUSE IT'S BRAND NEW.SO THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF TRYING TO THINK, OKAY ON THE DEVELOPMENTAL, HOMETOWN BANK HAS A PREPONDERANCE OF VOTES ON THIS.
DOES ANYBODY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE HAD A CHANGE OF HEART ON HOMETOWN BANK GETTING IT VERSUS GORDON RESTAURANT? HOMETOWN'S BEEN ON IT FOR LONGER. IT HAS. YES.
THAT'S GORDON RESTAURANT. 24 24. 24. THAT WAS LAST YEAR.
OKAY. SO HOMETOWN BANK WAS 23. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SEEING THE CHANGES ALONG THERE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT USED TO BE I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS GERLAND'S THEN GERLAND'S CLOSED AND IT SPENT 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A WHOLE.
AND THEN EVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, FELL OVER, GOT DEMOLISHED OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT WAS MY THINKING THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THE HOMETOWN BANK BUILDING.
THAT'S A REALLY NICE PLACE TOO. SO, YEAH, I THINK IT DID A LOT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SEAWALL.
SEAWALL. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I HAD VOTED FOR THE BOARD OF RESTAURANT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT THAT IT HAD, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, HOMETOWN BANK IS RIGHT THERE ON THE SEAWALL.
IT'S JUST LIKE. I MEAN, IT'S A NICE BUILDING, BUT IT'S JUST ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
AND IT REALLY DIDN'T IMPACT THAT MUCH AROUND IT, IN MY OPINION.
BUT THE THE GORDON RESTAURANT REALLY DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS A REAL ANCHOR POINT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF POINT TO AND GO, LOOK, THIS AREA IS CHANGING.
SO NEW INVESTMENT. YEAH, WELL I'M GOOD. I THINK I'D BE GOOD WITH THAT.
THEY'RE BOTH THEY'RE BOTH GREAT OPTIONS. BUT YEAH. AND I HATE TO SEE HOMETOWN.
WELL NO, IT'S GOT TWO MORE YEARS. IT'S GOT SOME MORE TIME.
TWO MORE YEARS FOR HOMETOWNS. THAT'S GOOD. AND I HOPE THEY DON'T FEEL THAT WE WAIT SO LONG FOR THEM.
SOMETIMES OPPORTUNITIES ARISE FOR OTHER PLACES.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THEM. SO WE'VE GOT A UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR GORDON'S RESTAURANT FOR DEVELOPMENT.
CORRECT GORDON RESTAURANT. YES, SIR. RESTAURANT SUPPLY.
YEAH. I GUESS WE GOT TO MAKE CONSENSUS IS GORDON'S RESTAURANT.
IS THAT AFFIRM? YES. EVERYBODY CAN AFFIRM. THAT'S A CONSENSUS.
OKAY. NEXT ENVIRONMENTAL. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD.
WASHED ASHORE. I REALLY AGREE WITH THAT ONE.
THE PAVILION ON FAR EAST BEACH. YEAH. OKAY. EAST BEACH IS.
YEAH. THE PAVILION. AND IT WAS A COOL PROJECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL SAW ALL THE OTHER SCULPTURES THEY HAD WHENEVER THEY BROUGHT IN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD LIKE, A DOZEN UP AROUND TOWN, AND THEN WE GOT OUR OWN. SO THAT WAS IT WAS A SHORT. THERE WAS A SCULPTURE OF THEM. YEAH, YEAH.
CUZ THERE'S A DOLPHIN SCULPTURE ON THE PLATFORM.
ON THE BUILDING. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.
COOL. VERY COOL. AND I GUESS THAT'S A VERY APPROPRIATE CLASSIFICATION FOR IT IS ENVIRONMENTAL, BECAUSE NONE OF THESE OTHERS WOULD REALLY FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY AS MUCH AS THAT ONE DOES.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD CATEGORY FOR IT TO BE IN.
SO DEFINITELY GETS A STAR. THERE BECOMES ONE THAT'S TOUGH FOR ME, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
AND THIS ONE YOU MAY WANT TO GO BY LOOKING AT THE AGE OF THE THAT THEY'VE BEEN ON, I DON'T KNOW.
TWO VOTES FOR NINTH STREET. WE'VE GOT ONE VOTE FOR THE SEAWALL, LEUCINE AND THE BISHOP REPLACEMENT. WE HAVE ONE. AND THEN THE COURVILLE STADIUM AND PRESS BOX ONE.
NOW I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE LEUCINE GOT THREE VOTES FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THANK YOU. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE CATEGORY FOR THE HOTEL.
IT'S PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. YES, SIR. WHEN I THINK OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, I JUST KIND OF AUTOMATICALLY THINK ABOUT THE HOUSES AND THE PRIVATE INVESTMENT THAT HOMEOWNERS ARE DOING WITH THESE HOUSES. YEAH.
AND THEN LEUCINE CERTAINLY COULD QUALIFY FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO Y'ALL THAT, YEAH, THAT ONE ONLY HAS THREE VOTES AND OTHER CATEGORY TWO. SO AND THAT THAT HOUSE ON NINTH STREET, IT LOOKS REALLY, REALLY NICE. IT'S RIGHT ON THE CORNER.
YES. IT STANDS OUT THERE ON THE NINTH, NINTH AND SEALY.
IT'S TWO HOUSES, RIGHT? I THINK SO. YEAH. YEAH.
BUT THE MAIN ONE ON THE ON THE ON THE CORNER LOT, YOU CAN SEE REALLY NICELY.
IT'S A REALLY NICE IT IS FOR SALE. I KNOW PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT REALLY.
WASN'T IT A BED AND BREAKFAST A LITTLE WHILE I DON'T REMEMBER.
I JUST KNOW WHEN I DROVE BY THERE A WEEK OR SO AGO, THERE'S A FOR SALE SIGN.
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I ACTUALLY SAW PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, LIKE LOOKING IN THE WINDOWS AND STUFF LIKE, THAT'S A GOOD SIGN. THERE'S INTEREST, BUT THE HOUSE CAME OUT REALLY NICE. IF I HAD THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AS I HAVE INTEREST, I COULD BE A PLAYER ON THAT, YOU KNOW? [LAUGHS] I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE NINTH STREET PROJECT HAS BEEN ON SINCE 2022.YEAH, WELL, THAT TO ME MEANS A LOT. AND LEUCINE'S JUST TWO YEARS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THAT'D BE GOOD WITH A NICE NINTH STREET.
I MEAN THAT, YEAH, THAT ONE'S BRAND NEW, THOUGH.
YEAH, IT'S BRAND NEW. YEAH. IT'S STILL. YEAH, I WAS FIXING TO SAY.
YEAH. GIVE HIM TOO MUCH CREDIT. YEAH, YEAH. SO IT'S NOT REALLY A COMPLETE PROJECT.
SO MAYBE THAT'S A 2025 NOMINATION. SO YES, THEY GOT SOME TIME.
YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS FOR NINTH STREET? I THINK SO. OKAY. OKAY, HERE WE GO. I SAW ONE LONELY GUY UP ON A TURRET ON THE BISHOP'S PALACE, COMING DOWN 14TH STREET IN ONE OF HIS LITTLE CORNERS.
I WAS LIKE, WOW. YEAH. OH, YOU WOULDN'T GIVE ME UP? YEAH, THAT WOULDN'T BE ME. OKAY, NOW WE'RE TO THE PRIVATE INVESTMENT WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'VE GOT THREE VOTES. KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
IT DOES. AND I WENT WITH CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD BECAUSE I'M MORE OF A WEST ENDER, I GUESS.
AND I SAW THE TRANSITION THAT MADE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY RAISED THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
I'M SURE A LOT OF HARD WORK, A LOT, A LOT OF EFFORT BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE THE PARISH CENTER.
THESE ARE NONPROFITS TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF SOMETHING.
AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S COMMENDABLE TO ME. TRYING TO REHABILITATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEY ARE THEY ARE THREE YEARS. FOR I THINK 2023.
23. OKAY. SO THEY'RE TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS. YEAH.
SO LEUCINE HAS A PREPONDERANCE THERE ON THAT ONE.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE DROVE PAST THAT HOTEL MY WHOLE LIFE AND ALWAYS THOUGHT TO MYSELF, REMEMBER WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE? EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, AND TO SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH IT. AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF CREATING SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST A HOTEL. I MEAN, WE GET DRINKS THERE, COFFEE, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME FOOD THERE, SOME MUSIC THERE.
THEY HAVE MUSIC. THEY HAD A COMEDY SHOW THE OTHER DAY. SO THEY'VE CREATED A THIRD PLACE, WHICH I THINK IS WORTH YOU KNOW, AND THE FOOT TRAFFIC THERE HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY, TOO.
WELL, THEY'VE REALLY CHANGED THAT AREA. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING AROUND. SO I NEED TO GET OUT AND JUST CRUISE AROUND MORE SOMETIMES.
SEE THE LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE IN DEVELOPMENT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY. BUT I AGREE WITH TOM. WHEN WE WERE KIDS, THE THE POOL USED TO BE OPEN TO GALVESTONIANS AND YOU COULD SWIM IN THE POOL AND THEY HAD LIKE A LITTLE COFFEE SHOP THAT MY GRANDMOTHER LOVED, THAT LITTLE COFFEE SHOP. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS CALLED, BUT THE HOTEL WAS TREASURE ISLAND OR SOMETHING. YEAH. AND BUT THEY HAD A LITTLE COFFEE SHOP ON THAT SAME CORNER LOCATION.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RESTAURANTS OVER THE YEARS. CANELO WAS THEIR LAST CAFE.
CANELO WAS THEIR LAST BEFORE IT GOT TURNED. IT WAS CLOSED.
THEY WERE JUST TAKING UP THE RESTAURANT. YEAH, IT WAS JUST A LITTLE RESTAURANT AND THERE WAS A LITTLE TAKEOUT CHINESE PLACE BEFORE THAT, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD. BUT YEAH, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO BUT REALLY TO TURN IT BACK INTO LIKE A 1960S.
YEAH. IT'S IT'S NICE IN THERE. YEAH. I'VE BEEN INSIDE AND I WANT THOSE COUCHES IN THE.
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THEY'VE GOT THE BAR AND THE RESTAURANT AND ALL THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
YEAH, I THINK SO. DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT? YES. OKAY, SO LEUCINE GOT PRIVATE.
GREAT. MOVING ON. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT PUBLIC INVESTMENT? NOW, I THINK WE'VE GOT THESE ARE ALL NEW, RIGHT?
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UNDER PUBLIC INVESTMENT. YES. SO YOU'VE GOT THE MURAL.IT'S ALSO HERE AS WELL. STADIUM PRESS BOX GOT TWO VOTES AND WE GOT THE SOCCER COMPLEX WHICH IS NEW.
IS THAT OPEN NOW? I THINK IT IS. I BELIEVE IT IS.
BY THE AUDIENCE? NO, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY OUT THERE.
IF IT'S NOT OPEN, THEY'RE REALLY. THEY GOTTA BE EXTREMELY CLOSE.
YEAH. I WENT THROUGH THERE. IT'S BEEN PROBABLY THREE MONTHS AGO.
AND THEY WERE FINISHING UP THE LIGHTING AND THE PARKING AREA AND STUFF.
SO, YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY RIGHT THERE AT BEING DONE.
BOTH FACILITIES ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF USE.
WE KNOW THE STADIUM IS USED ALL THE TIME FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF ACTIVITIES, BUT. SO FOR ME, IT'S KIND OF A TOSS UP. THEY'RE BOTH REALLY GOOD. I WOULD PROBABLY LEAN TOWARDS THE SOCCER COMPLEX BECAUSE I THINK SEEING PEOPLE OUTDOORS AND USING IT MORE IN THE STADIUM, YOU'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY GO INSIDE THE STADIUM TO SEE ANYTHING.
AS A GENERAL PUBLIC. SO I'M KIND OF LEANING MORE TOWARDS SOCCER COMPLEX.
EVERYONE'S NOT GOING TO GET UP THERE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO. THAT DID SEEM TO HAVE MORE OF A STORY TO IT, THOUGH, AND I'M WONDERING WHAT WAS THE STORY OF THE SOCCER COMPLEX? WHAT WAS IT BEFORE WAS BARE GROUND. THE SOCCER COMPLEX WAS A SOCCER COMPLEX BEFORE THAT.
BEFORE THAT IT WAS JUST AN EMPTY FIELD, JUST BARE GROUND.
SO THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS I WAS ALWAYS OUT THERE. YEAH.
SO. AND I LOVE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I THINK I DID VOTE FOR THE STADIUM, THOUGH.
JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HAVING I PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER THERE.
I MEAN, IT WAS NOT THE NICEST FACILITY. YOU'D GO UP TO THE ROAD TO BRAND NEW STADIUMS AND HIGH SCHOOLS AND YOU'D GO, WOW, OKAY, THIS IS HOW IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW? AND NOW, OF COURSE, THEY'VE GOT A BRAND NEW HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S GOING UP, WHICH IS AMAZING.
THEY'VE GOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE STADIUM, WHICH LOOKS FANTASTIC.
I THINK IT'S REALLY CHANGING THAT AREA. YEAH.
AND THEY HAVE PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OUR MONEY INTO THE STADIUM.
RIGHT? YEAH. THEY'RE BOTH 2025. YEAH. OKAY. ONE THING EITHER WAY JUST OCCURRED TO ME IS THAT THE PLANNING CATEGORY WAS INADVERTENTLY LEFT OFF OF THE SURVEY MONKEY. OKAY. SO YOU HAVE AN EXTRA CATEGORY TO PLAY AROUND WITH AND SHIFT SOME THINGS INTO, IF YOU, YOU KNOW. OKAY. LIKE I SAID, IF YOU ALL SAY, WELL, WE WANT BOTH OF THESE.
WELL, THEN YOU MAY ASK YOURSELF, WELL, CAN ONE OF THESE REALISTICALLY BE IN THE PLANNING? WELL, WE ALSO DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE ON THE PARTICIPATION CATEGORY, DID WE, IN THE SURVEY. I REMEMBER THAT CATEGORY.
PARTICIPATION. YEAH. AND YOU REALLY GOT TWO YOU GOT TWO WILD CARDS HERE YOU CAN WORK WITH IN THE, IN THE SPREADSHEET WE HAD ON THE EMAIL THAT HAD THAT LISTED.
SO BASED ON THE NAMES OF THE CATEGORIES, I'M KIND OF JUST THROWING SOMETHING AGAINST THE WALL HERE.
LET ME KNOW WHAT Y'ALL THINK. YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC INVESTMENT VERSUS PLANNING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLANNING, I THINK THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF ANGST AROUND SOME OF THE STADIUM, YOU KNOW, STUFF. SO MAYBE SOME FOLKS WOULD ARGUE IT'S MAYBE NOT THE BEST PLAN, BUT I THINK THE RESULT HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE NEED AND USABLE.
ON THE FLIP SIDE, I WASN'T SURE IF THE SOCCER COMPLEX WAS ACTUALLY OPEN.
MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A BETTER PLANNING, YOU KNOW, CANDIDATE.
SO DO YOU HAVE THE CRITERIA CLOSE DOWN FOR THE PARTICIPATION WITH THE I DON'T KNOW, I WAS ON ONE OF THOSE EMAILS THAT CATHERINE SENT US THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT [INAUDIBLE] SO HERE WE GO. LET'S SEE. WELL, SO THE THE SOCCER COMPLEX. I COULD SEE THAT FALLING INTO A PLANNING CATEGORY.
THE PRESS BOX YOU KNOW, COMES TO MIND IS THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
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ISD OR THROUGH OTHER SOURCES. IT'S GOT A LOT OF TAX DOLLARS SITTING RIGHT THERE.AND IT IS A PUBLIC INVESTMENT, TO BE SURE. IT'S LARGE PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
AND MAYBE WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER THAT AS IF WE DON'T, IF WE VOTE FOR IT, WE'LL BE AFFIRMING THAT IT WAS MONEY WELL SPENT. IF WE DEFER IT, WE'LL BE SAYING MAYBE NOT.
YEAH. SO, I MEAN, IT COULD BE READ A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT IT.
I'M MORE OF THE OPINION THAT IT IS. IT IS A LARGE PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
AND KARINA SHOWS UP AT THE LAST MINUTE FOR PARTICIPATION.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS A CATEGORY. I DON'T KNOW IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
I THINK LAST YEAR THERE WASN'T THERE WAS. THERE WERE ALSO CATEGORIES THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY AWARDS, DIDN'T HAVE TO DO EVERYBODY. YEAH. EVERY CATEGORY.
WELL, BUT I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING THINGS AROUND LIKE IF WE DID LET ME CHECK PUBLIC INVESTMENT AS THE STADIUM AND PLANNING OR PARTICIPATION AS THE SOCCER FIELD. YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
WELL, SOCCER'S ALSO UNDER REDEVELOPMENT. YEAH, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHURCH EARLIER, TOO.
SO. BUT I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THAT PARTICIPATION CATEGORY THERE AND A PLANNING CATEGORY.
NONE OF THESE ROLL OFF THIS YEAR, SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE THERE.
YEAH, YEAH. IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD GIVE SOMETHING IN EVERY CATEGORY THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY LACKING A DEFINITION OF PARTICIPATION I WOULD SUGGEST WE LEAVE THAT ONE FOR LAST. I AGREE. YEAH. YEAH I WOULD, I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS THE STADIUM THEN FOR PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
YEAH. ME TOO. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS.
PUBLIC INVESTMENT IS THE PRESS BOX. LOCKING THAT IN.
I REMEMBER WHEN THEY CAME TO PLANNING BECAUSE THEY HAD TO COME OUT WITH IT, LIKE EIGHT INCHES OR YEAH, YEAH, THEY NEED TO GET EIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT.
OKAY, SO THE NEXT CATEGORY ON THIS PAGE IS REDEVELOPMENT.
AND WE HAD ONE VOTE FOR EVERYTHING. SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF LEUCINE. THE PARISH LIFE CENTER, SOCCER COMPLEX AND CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD.
OUT OF THOSE, THE OLDEST ONE IS THE CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD.
PARISH LIFE IS WHAT? THAT'S. THAT'S A NEW ONE.
YEAH. OKAY. SO SO I'M KIND OF LEANING WITH THE ONE VOTE TOWARD THE SEVEN MILE ROAD CHURCH.
YEAH. YEAH, I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD. AND THEN ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THE SOCCER COMPLEX FOR THE PLANNING BOARD? EITHER ONE PLANNING OR PARTICIPATING. SO WHOEVER IT FALLS.
YEAH. OKAY, SO WE'RE SAYING REDEVELOPMENT IS THE SEVEN MILE ROAD SOCCER COMPLEX.
THE CHURCH ROAD. CHURCH THERE, RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANNING BEING THE SOCCER COMPLEX OR SOCCER. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. YEAH. THAT WORKS.
SO. WHAT'S IT CALLED? SAND HILL. SAND HILL? YEAH.
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY STINKING SAND HILL CRANES DURING THE SEASON.
OKAY. AND PARTICIPATION. WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE A DEFINITION OF.
AND IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE IT TODAY AGAIN WE CAN WAIT AND NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN THAT, BECAUSE I'M PRETTY ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE DEFINITION OF PARTICIPATION WOULD BE. WE CALL THAT BEING ON OUR BALLOT.
I DON'T THINK IT WASN'T ON THE SURVEY MONKEY.
IT WASN'T OKAY. YEAH. AND IT HONESTLY MAY NOT HAVE A DEFINITION.
IT MAY BE VERY MUCH A SORT OF A HONORABLE MENTION TYPE CATEGORY, I'M NOT SURE.
CLOSE PARTICIPATION. I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY BROAD DEFINITION.
WE COULD COME UP WITH FIVE DIFFERENT. YOU JUST SHOW UP.
SOMETIMES THE MOST IMPORTANT QUALITY IS JUST BEING AVAILABLE. YEAH.
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OKAY. SO WE GIVE KARINA A PARTICIPATION TROPHY.THERE YOU GO. WELL, SHE DESERVES IT. SHE DESERVES MORE THAN THAT.
I'LL TAKE THE PARTICIPATION TROPHY. YEAH. OKAY.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO.
THE WORKSHOP AGENDA HAS BEEN COMPLETE. WE CONSIDERED ADJOURNED RIGHT AT 3:00.
ALL RIGHT. YOU GUYS ARE GOOD AT TIMES.
DEVELOPMENT IS GORDON'S RESTAURANT SUPPLY. ENVIRONMENT IS THE WORCESTERSHIRE STATUE SCULPTURE.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS 902 NINTH PARTICIPATION.
WE'RE NOT INCLUDING THAT. PLANNING IS A SANDHILL CRANE SOCCER COMPLEX.
PRIVATE INVESTMENT IS HOTEL LEUCINE. PUBLIC INVESTMENT IS THE COURVILLE STADIUM PRESS BOX.
REDEVELOPMENT IS CHURCH LIVING GOD. AND THEN FINALLY, CULTURAL ARTS IS THE SUNSHINE CENTER MURAL.
YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED.
PERFECT. OKAY. MEETING ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.