[00:00:01] OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION. [Landmark Commission on July 7, 2025.] TODAY IS MONDAY, JULY 7TH AND THE TIME IS 4:00. WE'LL START OUR MEETING OFF WITH ATTENDANCE. COMMISSIONER ALLEN. HERE. VICE CHAIRPERSON BOURGEOIS. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CHAISTAIN. PRESENT. CHAIRPERSON CLICK. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER FITZ. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LANGDALE. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SMITH. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER STETZEL-THOMPSON WILL BE ABSENT. COMMISSIONER THIERRY IS ABSENT. EX-OFFICIO COUNCIL MEMBER SHARON LEWIS IS ABSENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING? ANYBODY SEE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, NO? OKAY, WE'LL ACCEPT THEM AS PRESENTED. PUBLIC COMMENT, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS? I'LL JUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE IN THE AUDIENCE. WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE SUCH A LARGE AUDIENCE. TODAY, WE ARE JOINED BY MEMBERS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT SAN ANTONIO ARCHITECTURE PROGRAM. THEY COME EVERY YEAR IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF DARYL OHLENBUSCH, AND DO SOME ARCHITECTURE HISTORIC PRESERVATION RELATED PROGRAMS. SO THEY'RE JUST HERE TO SIT THROUGH A PORTION OF THE MEETING AND OBSERVE HOW LANDMARK COMMISSION WORKS. SO WELCOME TO THE STUDENTS. WELCOME. Y'ALL ARE A LITTLE BIT INTIMIDATING, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF EYEBALLS. [LAUGHTER] OKAY. WE'LL START WITH OLD BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE ITEM 6A, CASE 25LC-022 A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AS MENTIONED, THIS IS ACTUALLY A REHEARING. IT WAS DEFERRED FROM, I BELIEVE THE EARLY JUNE MEETING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AND IS IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I BELIEVE THEY ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO GIVE US. THIS IS AT 212 22ND STREET, THE TRUE HEART BUILT AND COMPANY BUILDING. A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING NEW CANOPY, A THIRD FLOOR EDITION. EIGHT PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT, ONE RETURN. THAT ONE WAS IN FAVOR. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO INSTALL ROOFTOP ADDITIONS, INCLUDING NEW CONDITION SPACE, DECKING AND ROOFTOP PATIO ALONG THE MID-BLOCK ALLEY. APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSED TO INSTALL NEW WINDOWS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH FACADES, IN CONJUNCTION WITH INTERIOR FLOOR PLAN CHANGES. AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ADD A CANOPY EXTENDING OVER THE SIDEWALK IN THE 22ND STREET RIGHT OF WAY. NOTE THE MATERIALS LIST IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE APPLICABLE DESIGN STANDARDS. SO STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST PARTIALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS. THE 3RD FLOOR ROOFTOP ADDITION IS LOCATED IN LOCATION B, HIGHLY VISIBLE SECONDARY WALL, PRESERVATION REPAIRS IS IN PRIORITY AND LOCATION C LESS VISIBLE SECONDARY WALL WHERE PRESERVATION IS STILL PREFERRED, BUT FLEXIBILITY EXISTS. HOWEVER, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES ON THE THIRD STORY ON BOTH SIDES ARE WELL ABOVE EYE LEVEL, AND THE NORTH FACADE FACES ANOTHER STRUCTURE WITH VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEDESTRIAN VIEWS. FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THOSE CHANGES, BUT RECOMMEND THE USE OF ONE OVER ONE WINDOWS TO DENOTE NEW WINDOWS AND NEW OPENINGS, AS IS OUR TYPICAL RECOMMENDATION. STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS SETTING THE THIRD FLOOR ADDITIONS BACK AT LEAST 18IN FROM THE HISTORIC FACADE, IF FEASIBLE. IF NOT, STAFF RECOMMENDS ADDING SOME VISUAL DETAIL TO DIFFERENTIATE THE ORIGINAL WALLS FROM THE HISTORIC BRICK TO BE ADDED, SUCH AS A DECORATIVE BRICK COURSE OR TRIM PIECE. THE APPLICANT ALSO PROPOSES TO ADD METAL, IN WHICH THERE'S TWO NEW WINDOW OPENINGS TO MATCH EXISTING, WHICH CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS. AND FINALLY, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ADD A WOODEN METAL CANOPY ACROSS THE 22ND STREET SIDEWALK FOR THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ADDITION. THE CANOPY IS A SIMPLE DESIGN, AND SANBORN INSURANCE MAP SHOWED THAT THE STRUCTURE HAD A CANOPY IN THE PAST AT SOME POINT. NOTE, THE LICENSE TO USE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION, AS IS TYPICAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REQUEST BE APPROVED WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE AND STANDARD CONDITIONS 2 THROUGH 7. WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE, SO WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE LEFT, A HISTORIC PHOTO PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN THE VICINITY MAP SHOWING HOW IT KIND OF SITS IN RELATION TO OTHER NEARBY BUILDINGS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO HERE WE HAVE THE EXISTING SITE PLAN. AND THE PROPOSED REVISED SITE PLAN, IT'S NOT REALLY REVISED. SHOWING THE ADDITIONS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE SHOW THE APPROXIMATE LOCATIONS OF THE NEW THIRD FLOOR WINDOWS AND ROOFTOP ADDITIONS. AS WELL AS WHERE THOSE ADDITIONS SIT IN RELATION TO THE FLOOR PLANS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE SOME UPDATED DRAWINGS FROM THE APPLICANT SHOWING KIND OF HOW THE CANOPY AND HANDRAIL WOULD INTERACT WITH THE HISTORIC FACADE AND THEN A LITTLE DETAIL SHOWING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT INTERACTION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE SOME REVISED OBLIQUE MODELS SHOWING THE NEW CANOPY AND THE NEW [00:05:10] WINDOWS AND EVERYTHING. ON THE TOP THERE YOU CAN JUST BARELY SEE. ALSO FROM THE APPLICANT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TAKEN APPROXIMATELY FROM THE CURVE OF 22ND STREET, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU DANIEL. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE ONE QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SANBORN MAPS, IF THESE ARE PROVIDED BY STAFF. THEY'RE ACTUALLY, SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY ONLINE, BUT IN THIS CASE THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THOSE. OKAY. SO IF I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THINGS THAT I'M SEEING ON THE SANBORN MAP, SHOULD I DIRECT THAT TO THE PETITIONER OR WOULD STAFF BE ABLE TO ANSWER? PROBABLY BOTH. CATHERINE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO I GUESS FOR STAFF, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE, SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 1899 SANBORN MAP OR THE 1912 SANBORN MAP FOR THIS PROPERTY PROJECTING FROM THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, IT LOOKS LIKE YELLOW. A YELLOW SPACE INDICATED WITH A DASHED LINE. USING THE SANBORN INDEX. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT ILLUSTRATES FOR BUILDING MATERIAL WISE? SO IT'S IN THE 1899 AND WE CAN ALSO SEE IT IN THE 1912 SANBORN MAP. SO IT'S IN THE EXHIBIT, I'M LOOKING AT THE SANBORN MAP IN THE EXHIBIT. KEY IN 1899 T HE COLOR YELLOW IS FRAME CONSTRUCTION. MEANING WOOD. MEANING WOOD. OKAY. AND THE DASH LINE. DASH LINE LOOKS LIKE IT IS DENOTING FRAME PARTITION. OKAY. SO OKAY, SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MOST LIKELY SOME TYPE OF WOOD MATERIAL PROJECTING FROM THE BUILDING. YES, THAT WOULD BE MY INTERPRETATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO BRING UP SANBORN. IS THERE NOT ONE BETWEEN 12 AND 47 TO LOOK AT OR? NO THERE ISN'T, IT JUMPS FROM 12 TO 47. AND WHAT WAS THE EARLIEST BEFORE 1899. AND WAS THERE ONCE SINCE IT WAS BUILT? THERE'S 1877 AND 1885. OKAY. ANY OF THOSE SHOW? AWNING. WAS IT 1882 WHEN IT WAS BUILT? OKAY, SO 1885 SHOWS THE BUILDING DOES NOT SHOW AN AWNING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25LC-022. THE APPLICANT HERE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO. HI. WELCOME. SIGN ON, PLEASE TELL US YOUR NAME. BRAX EASTERWOOD. 123 25TH STREET. SORRY. YEAH SURE. THANK YOU. KARINA. HERE AGAIN TODAY TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT. I THINK THAT THERE WAS THERE WAS PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATION LAST TIME ABOUT THE BULK OF THE PROJECT. THERE WASN'T MUCH THAT I WAS GOING TO REALLY ADDRESS TODAY IN TERMS OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE WINDOWS. UNLESS YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BUT WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT TO YOU THE CANOPY, [00:10:07] BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS THE STICKING POINT LAST TIME. IN TERMS OF CANOPIES, I JUST DID A LITTLE BIT OF A SURVEY DOWNTOWN JUST TO SHOW OTHER CANOPIES AND KIND OF JUST SHOW HOW THIS CANOPY MIGHT BE CONSTRUCTED AND THAT IT MINIMIZES THE IMPACT TO OBSCURING THE BRICKWORK. AND OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO THIS BUILDING. RIGHT. SO THE POLYCHROME ON THAT BRICKWORK IS AMAZING. AND THE INTENT IS TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT THAT IS COVERED THERE. SO WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE. YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANOPIES THAT ARE DOWNTOWN AND HOW THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED. THE ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND IS SUPER THIN, IT'S ABOUT 10 INCHES AND WE'RE THINKING OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ALTHOUGH TO YOUR POINT ABOUT IT BEING A FRAME CONSTRUCTION. W E WOULD BE USING WOOD METAL POSTS AND WOOD CONSTRUCTION FOR THE FLOOR BUT IT WOULD BE MORE IN THE SAME DIMENSION AS THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT. NEXT ONE. IT JUST GOT A COUPLE OTHERS HERE. AGAIN, THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS A VERY THIN PROFILE, AND IT'S NOT OBSCURING MUCH OF THAT BUILDING. IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REST OUR CANOPY IS RELATIVE TO THAT IMAGE ON THE RIGHT WHERE WE HAVE A CORNICE, AND THAT THE CANOPY OFTEN TIMES WILL JUST SIT KIND OF ON TOP OF THAT LITTLE CORNICE AS IS IN THIS CASE. AND IF WE IF WE HAVE OTHER IMAGES OF OUR BUILDING, THESE ARE JUST, AGAIN THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, THE VERY THIN PROFILE THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY BUILT OUT OF WOOD, WOOD FRAME WITH WITH METAL COLUMNS. SAME HERE SHOWING ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE AGAIN WHERE THE CANOPY INTERACTS WITH THE BUILDING ABOVE THAT CORNICE. SAME AT THE HENLEY BUILDING. AND THEN THESE ARE OUR LATEST DRAWINGS SHOWING THE ELEVATION, SHOWING THE STRUCTURE THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE FOR A PRESENTATION. HOWEVER THERE WEREN'T A WHOLE LOT OF CONCERNS THAT CAME, THAT I LISTENED BACK TO THE TAPE FROM THE COMMISSION ITSELF. WE DID HAVE ONE PERSON THAT SPOKE PRETTY ADAMANTLY AGAINST THE PROJECT. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW, I'M ASKING I'M GOING TO ASK LEGAL. IS IT PROPER, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PLAY THOSE COMMENTS AND THEN HAVE MYSELF RESPOND TO THEM? I HAVE THE COMMENTS. I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DO. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS ONE THING. I CAN SUM IT UP. I DON'T HAVE TO REPLAY IT. AND I THINK WHAT YOU CAN DO IS IF YOU CALL AND JUST MAKE COMMENTS ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD, THEY HAVE A DDITIONAL TIME, THIS IS YOUR TIME TO PRESENT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL I'LL JUST I'LL JUST PLAY IT COOL THEN.[LAUGHTER] ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS ABOUT A 6 INCH COLUMN FOR SUPPORT NOT BEING APPROPRIATE. THE COLUMNS THAT ARE ON THE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IN THE RIGHT HAND PHOTO ARE LARGER THAN 6 INCHES. HOWEVER, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT AND HAVE REDUCED THE SIZE OF THE COLUMNS TO 4 INCHES. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS MAYBE A BETTER PHOTO THAN THE ONE THAT IS SHOWN THERE. BUT THE AREA THAT WILL BE BE OBSCURED IS THE AREA ABOVE THE COLUMNS. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE DRAWING THERE THAT THE CANOPY DECK IS COMING IN ABOVE THE COLUMNS AND IN THAT SPACE BELOW. BASICALLY IN THAT SPACE BELOW THE WINDOWS AND ABOVE THE COLUMNS. AND SO IN TERMS OF DETAILING, IT'S SORT OF A TYPICAL DETAIL. [00:15:03] EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT ANOTHER THING THAT WAS MENTIONED IS THAT THE FRAMING WOULD BE 2 FEET TALL. AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE WHAT WE CAN DO IS DO A FLUSH, WHAT'S CALLED A FLUSH FRAME, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU JUST BRING THE JOIST RIGHT INTO THE BEAM SO YOU DON'T HAVE A BEAM BELOW THE FLOOR FRAMING. SO THAT HELPS TO MINIMIZE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP AGAINST THE BUILDING. AND THEN SOME OF THE BRICKS THEMSELVES ARE ABLE TO BE REMOVED AND RETAINED AND THEY'RE NOT ALL PERFECT HONESTLY, IT'S AN AMAZING BUILDING BUT YOU KNOW I GUESS KIND OF IN RESPONSE TO THE, THE COMMENTS LAST TIME THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A TEAM OF PRESERVATIONISTS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. YOU'VE GOT AN OWNER THAT IS PRESERVATION CONSCIOUS ARCHITECT, CONTRACTOR AND JOHN MCNATT AND ENGINEER THAT ARE ALL WORKING PRESERVATION. SO WHETHER YOU APPROVE THE CANOPY OR NOT, IT'S STILL AN OUTSTANDING PROJECT. AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS AN ICONIC PIECE OF GALVESTON HISTORY AND ARCHITECTURE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY BUILDING IS UNTOUCHABLE. SO THERE'S A GOOD WAY TO DO DESIGN WORK WITHOUT NECESSARILY DOING NOTHING, THAT MAKES SENSE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO HOW MUCH OF THE BRICK IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE REMOVED? THAT SECTION, CAN I JUST GO JUST POINT TO THAT. SURE. I THINK WE HAVE BIGGER PICTURES, DON'T WE. CAN YOU PULL ONE UP SO I CAN SEE? I DON'T THINK I BROUGHT ANY PICTURES, SO THEY WERE. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. SO YOU WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS? ALL OF THIS. BELOW ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. IT WOULD JUST BE THAT BAND THAT YOU WERE JUST JUST REFERENCING. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE OBSTRUCTED. CORRECT. THANK YOU. CAN WE PUT THAT PICTURE UP ON THE SCREEN SO WE CAN SEE IT ALL? KARINA IS WORKING ON GETTING OUR POWERPOINT BACK UP, AND THAT'LL HAVE DANIEL'S PICTURES IN IT. USE THAT ON THE POWERPOINT. RIGHT. YEAH. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, IT'S THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE. I THINK THIS IS THE BEST PICTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. SO, BRAX, IF YOU COULD INDICATE ON THIS PICTURE. YEAH. YOU'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORDING. THANK YOU. SORRY FOR ASKING QUESTION, YOU'RE OVER THERE. NO PROBLEM. HOWARD PAGE, WHO'S OUR MASON, HAS SAID THAT HE COULD REMOVE THEM AND SAVE THEM FOR REINSTALLATION LATER, IF NEED BE. I HAVE A QUESTION, SO IF THE CANOPY WAS APPROVED AND YOU REMOVE THOSE BRICKS AT SOME POINT, IF THEY TOOK IT OFF, YOU COULD COMPLETELY RESTORE THAT. REBUILD THAT. YES, YES MA'AM. ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE BRICKS IN THERE ARE ALREADY DAMAGED, THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT SPALLED. SO THEY MIGHT NEED TO BE TURNED AROUND OR REPLACED WITH ANOTHER BRICK. BUT YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. YEAH. SO YOU'RE GOING TO, I'LL MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. SO ON THAT YOU WILL PRETTY MUCH BE ANCHORING INTO THE STRUCTURE ON THAT SIDE, IS HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK OKAY. [00:20:02] YES. EXPANSION BOLTS AND THAT WHITE BAND RIGHT. YES. UNDERNEATH AND THERE WOULD BE A LEDGER THAT WAS TO BE PUT ON THE BUILDING THERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. EASTERWOOD? NO, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YOU COULD COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN, PLEASE. I AM CATHERINE BUERGLER, THE OWNER. LET ME PUT MY GLASSES ON. OKAY. PUT MY CLOCK DOWN. AND I HAVE A POWERPOINT THAT I PROVIDED. LAST TIME I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PICTURES, SO I THINK THIS WILL HELP WITH MY EXPLANATION. OKAY, SO THIS BUILDING IS A BELOVED LANDMARK FOR GALVESTON, AS IT IS FOR ME AND I TAKE MY RESPONSIBILITY TO HONOR THE BUILDING VERY SERIOUSLY. BUT I MUST BALANCE KEEPING AS MUCH ORIGINAL AS POSSIBLE WITH MAKING IT A COMFORTABLE HOME FOR MY FAMILY AND I THINK THAT MY PLAN ACCOMPLISHES THIS. SLIDE 1, THE BUILDING WAS STRUGGLING WHEN I PURCHASED IT FROM THE JUNIOR LEAGUE. I DID NOT KNOW WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO. BUT I PERSEVERED, MY RESTORATION WORK OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS PROVES HOW MUCH I'M WILLING TO DO TO RESTORE AND MAINTAIN THE BUILDING. I'M NOT RICH, BUT I'VE SPARED NO EXPENSE TO MAKE SURE I'M DOING IT RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE. THE CORBELS ARE EXACT REPLICAS OF THE CORNICE, THE BRICKS WE USED TO REPAIR THE FRONT ARE PERFECT MATCHES FROM THE 1880S. THAT TOOK ME 3 YEARS TO FIND. WE MADE SURE THE SHUTTERS WERE PAIRED WITH 100 YEAR OLD WOOD AND WERE RESTORED, AND WE RESTORED THE ORIGINAL FUNCTIONALITY. EVERY ASPECT HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY RESEARCHED AND EVERYTHING I HAVE DONE GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND AND THE CANOPY WILL BE NO DIFFERENT. SLIDE 4. OKAY, CANOPIES HAVE BEEN ADDED AND REPLACED DOWNTOWN OVER THE YEARS. THE FADDEN BUILDING, WHICH IS NOW HEARSAY, IS THE NICHOLAS CLAYTON BUILDING, BUILT IN 1898. IT DID NOT HAVE A CANOPY WHEN IT WAS BUILT. THE FIRST RECORD OF A CANOPY IS FROM THE 1947 SANBORN MAPS, BUILT LONG AFTER THE ORIGINAL OWNERS AND ARCHITECTS WERE INVOLVED. NEXT SLIDE. IN 2016, THE BUILDING WAS PURCHASED BY A HOUSTON BASED RESTAURANT GROUP. DURING THE RESTORATION, THE LANDMARK COMMITTEE APPROVED REBUILDING THE EXISTING CANOPY, WHICH WAS IN DISREPAIR, WITH LEAVING ONLY THE FRONT COLUMNS. THEY WERE ALSO ALLOWED TO RAISE THE ROOF LINE OF THE CANOPY, ADD NEW RAILINGS, AND ADD A DOOR THAT LOOKS LIKE THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE EASY ACCESS. ONE LARGE SIGN WRAPS AROUND THE ROOF OF THE CANOPY, WHICH DETRACTS FROM SEEING THE ORIGINAL BUILDING UNDERNEATH, BUT THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED. NEXT SLIDE. CANOPIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A FIXTURE OF DOWNTOWN, HOWEVER, RAILINGS ARE MODERN SAFETY ADDITIONS. BEFORE 1900, I COULD ONLY FIND ONE PICTURE WITH RAILINGS. IT WAS ON THE HENDLEY BUILDING, WHICH WAS AND IT WAS ORNATE AND BEAUTIFUL. EVEN AS A CHILD IN THE 1980S, I DO NOT REMEMBER MANY RAILINGS, BUT TODAY THEY ARE ON MOST BUILDINGS THAT HAVE WALKOUT WINDOWS AND OR EASY ACCESS TO THE ROOF. SO THAT'S ALL THE SAME BUILDING ON 22ND AND STRAND. SLIDE, NEXT SLIDE. WHILE LOOKING THROUGH THE HISTORIC PICTURES, I DID COME ACROSS THIS PRE 1900 PICTURE WITH KIDS SITTING OUT ON A CANOPY WATCHING THE PARADE. I FOUND IT FUNNY AND FRIGHTENING AT THE SAME TIME, SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF [LAUGHTER] WHAT I'M TRYING TO PREVENT. AND THE OKAY. NEXT SLIDE. SORRY. IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, THE LANDMARK COMMITTEE HAS ALSO APPROVED CANOPIES WITH RAILINGS. ONE EXAMPLE IS THE MOODY BUILDING. ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE NOT RESTORED THE CANOPY, IT HAS BEEN APPROVED WITH THE RAILING. SO THAT'S THE COLONEL BOBBY'S. NEXT SLIDE. WITH THE HEAT AND WEATHER CANOPIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A MUST IN GALVESTON. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHY TRUE HEART. REALIZED HE MADE A MISTAKE SO SOON AFTER THE BUILDING WAS BUILT. THE FIRST FLOOR FRONT HAS BEEN DETERIORATING OVER THE YEARS. I PLAN ON RESTORING THE ORIGINAL 15 FOOT DOORS, I'VE ALREADY REPLACED BROKEN AND MISSING BRICKS AND MORTAR, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY ARE ALREADY STARTING TO FAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR. THESE NEED AS MUCH PROTECTION AS POSSIBLE CONSIDERING THE TIME AND COST, I AM INVESTING TO TRY TO RESTORE THEM. [00:25:05] THE CANOPY WILL HELP MAINTAIN THESE FEATURES. HERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A PHOTO OF THE ORIGINAL CANOPY BEFORE 1900 A PHOTO OF IT, AND THEN A RENDERING FROM THE HABS 1972 DRAWINGS. AND LASTLY MR. EASTERWOOD'S RENDERING WITH THE NEW CANOPY. I FEEL THAT IT SHOWS HOW LITTLE THE CANOPY WILL CHANGE THE LOOK OF THE FACADE, WHILE ALSO ADDING BACK A LOST HISTORY. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT I AM NOT ADDING A CANOPY, BUT RESTORING A PIECE OF HISTORY OF THE BUILDING. THE CANOPY WAS NOT ORIGINAL, BUT IT WAS ADDED BY THE ORIGINAL OWNER WITHIN TEN YEARS OF IT BEING BUILT. I WOULD THINK NICHOLAS CLAYTON WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSULTED ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CANOPY, CONSIDERING HE WAS WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND IT'S ONE OF HIS BUILDINGS. THE CANOPY WAS A FIXTURE OF THE BUILDING FOR BETWEEN 25 AND 50 YEARS, AND I THINK BY BRINGING THE CANOPY BACK, PEOPLE WILL GET TO SEE WHAT THE TRUE HEART BUILDING WAS IN ITS HEYDAY. NEXT SLIDE. SO THE CANOPY WILL BRING CHARM AND PROTECTION TO THE BUILDING AND WILL TIE INTO THE DOWNTOWN BEAUTIFULLY. I WOULD LIKE THE LANDMARK COMMITTEE TO APPROVE THE RESTORATION OF THE 1890S CANOPY WITH A RAILING. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL DOWNSTAIRS OR. YEAH, OKAY. WE'RE PUTTING WE HAVE TO PUT IN SPRINKLERS FOR COMMERCIAL, SO OUR PLAN IS THAT. BUT I'M STILL GETTING PRICING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT ALL IS GOING TO WORK. SO THAT'S MY GOAL IS TO HAVE COMMERCIAL DOWNSTAIRS. IS THE BRICK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING, IS THAT ORIGINAL TO THE STRUCTURE? YES. SO THE BRICK THAT'S RIGHT IN BETWEEN, I THINK THE MIDDLE ONE SHOWS THE BEST PICTURE OF IT, THAT BRICK I DON'T THINK WE REMOVE ALL OF IT. IT HAS A COUPLE OF LEVELS. AND IN BRAX'S PICTURES, A DIFFERENT PICTURE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT LOOKING DOWN. AND I DON'T HAVE THAT PICTURE ON ME, BUT IT'S LIKE HALF OF IT. SO I TALKED TO MY BRICK MASON AND HE SAID THAT IT COULD ABSOLUTELY BE TAKEN OUT AND PRESERVED, JUST IN CASE PEOPLE WANT TO RE ATTACH IT LATER ON, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO WE DON'T ANY OF THEM THAT ARE THAT CAN BE BROKEN WITH LIKE THE WITH THE BOLTS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH OR WHATEVER. I'LL PROBABLY LEAVE THE ONES THAT AREN'T. LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE WRECKED. I WON'T WRECK, YOU KNOW I WON'T TAKE OFF, I WON'T MESS WITH, SO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO?. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO. OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25LC-022, AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. CASE 25LC-022 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. STRIKING SPECIFIC CONDITIONS 1 A AND B. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE ADDITION IS VISIBLE ENOUGH FROM THE STREET OR THE ALLEY TO WARRANT AN 18 INCH SETBACK, OR THE ONE OVER ONE WINDOWS. IT'S WELL ABOVE GROUND LEVEL AND WON'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? I'M STILL HESITANT THOUGH, OF ADDING THE AWNING, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S REMOVING ORIGINAL BRICK OR COVERING IT UP AND TO ME THAT IS SOME OF THE MOST DECORATIVE PARTS OF THE BUILDING. I ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. I APPRECIATE THE OWNER'S PRESENTATION AND WHAT SHE'S PRESENTED, AS WELL AS THE PETITIONER'S PRESENTATION. THE ARCHITECT'S PRESENTATION. YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS JUST THE CANOPY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLEARLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE HISTORIC EVIDENCE. THE RAILING IS JUST DIFFICULT FOR ME TO REVIEW AND APPROVE AS IS, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE HISTORIC EVIDENCE OF THAT. I UNDERSTAND THE WANT OR NEED FOR THE USE OF IT. I VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND THAT AND I FEEL FOR THAT WANT AND NEED. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE ADDING THE RAILING, THEY'RE ADDING ACCESSIBLE AREA TO THE STRUCTURE AND THEY'RE EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT, I WOULD SAY, AND I THINK THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE FRONT FACADE. SO THAT'S IT'S A BIGGER REQUEST TO ME IN REVIEWING IT, SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF MY CONCERNS COME FROM. OKAY. AS A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNER, I WOULD NOT LEASE A SPOT FROM THAT BUILDING UNLESS THERE WAS A CANOPY. [00:30:04] THE SHADE IS SO IMPORTANT TO BUSINESSES AND WINDOWS AND THE STUFF THAT ARE RIGHT INSIDE THE WINDOWS AS WELL. JUST WANT TO HAVE A COMMENT TOO. I DROVE AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA TODAY AND THERE'S LOTS OF CANOPIES WITH RAILINGS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE WERE PROBABLY ORIGINAL, BUT I DO THINK IT'S A SAFETY FACTOR. AND I THINK THAT ALL OF OUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL THOSE AGAINST THAT. I DIDN'T COUNT THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. OH. I'M SORRY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? NO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. LET ME MAKE SURE, THAT WE A HOW WOULD I WORD THIS? I GUESS I APPROVE BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, STRIKING THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE I AGREE, I DON'T THINK THE WINDOWS ARE NEEDED TO HAVE 1 OVER 1. AND I BELIEVE THAT HAVING A. ACTUALLY NO, I AGREE WITH 1A I THINK THAT SHOULD STAND BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST HAVE A VISUAL DIFFERENTIATION. SO STRIKING 1 B AND ALSO REMOVING THE AWNING DUE TO IT CHANGING THE MAJOR PART OF THE FACADE IN THE FRONT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I PROBABLY SAID THAT WRONG. YEAH, WE'VE GOT THAT. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. SO ARE YOU. WELL. OH, SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? WERE YOU PROPOSING TO JUST REMOVE THE CANOPY ITEM OR. YES. THAT WAS. OKAY. OR POTENTIALLY, I GUESS CONTINUING IT IF THAT PORTION OF THE REQUEST OF THE PETITIONER WANTED. RATHER NOT BE THERE AT ALL. BUT I GUESS LET'S SEE THE VOTE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL THOSE AGAINST IT. OKAY. THAT MOTION FAILED ALSO. NO, THAT MOTION PASSED. THAT MOTION PASSED. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. I'M SIDETRACKED WITH THE PRETTY PICTURES. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE CASE 25LC-028 1302 BALL. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING WINDOW REPLACEMENT. 10 NOTICES WERE SENT TO, RETURNED THOSE TWO IN FAVOR. PLEASE NOTE HISTORICAL AND ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. SUMMARY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IN ORDER TO REPLACE 15 WINDOWS WITH NEW WINDOWS. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE EXHIBITS INCLUDES INFORMATION ABOUT A FRONT DOOR REPLACEMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED WINDOWS ARE WOOD WITH SIMULATED DIVIDED LIGHTS WITH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR APPLIED GRILLES, AND AN INTERNAL SPACER BETWEEN THE INSULATED GLASS. THE PROPOSED MATERIAL IS FABRICS, WHICH IS A COMPOSITE MATERIAL COMPRISED OF 40% WOOD FIBER AND 60% PLASTIC POLYMER. PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. CONFORMANCE STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS. THE DESIGN STANDARDS STATE THAT ORIGINAL WINDOWS SHOULD BE REPAIRED RATHER THAN REPLACED WHENEVER POSSIBLE. WHEN REPAIR IS NOT FEASIBLE. THE DESIGN STANDARDS STATE THAT REPLACEMENT WINDOWS SHOULD MATCH THE DESIGN AND MATERIALS OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS. THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED SOME PHOTOS OF THE WINDOWS CONDITION, BUT IS NOT PROVED SATISFACTORILY THAT THE WINDOWS ARE BEYOND REPAIR. THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT MATCH THE MATERIALS OF THE CURRENT WINDOWS. THE CURRENT WINDOWS ARE WOOD AND THE PROPOSED MATERIAL REPLACEMENT MATERIAL IS A WOOD POLYMER BLEND. STAFF RECOMMENDATION, DUE TO NON CONFORMANCE WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE REQUEST BE DENIED. HOWEVER, SHOULD THE LANDMARK COMMISSION FIND THE REQUEST CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS PROVIDED FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF REPORT AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND WE HAVE THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE WINDOWS THAT [00:35:08] ARE PROPOSED TO BE REPLACED. AND THEN WE HAVE JUST SOME REPRESENTATIVE PHOTOGRAPHS. ALL OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT WERE IN YOUR PACKET. THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CONDITION OF THE WINDOWS. AND THEN THESE ARE THE DESIGNS OF THE PROPOSED NEW WINDOWS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, SOUTH AND WEST. AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. OKAY. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25LC-028. IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE OR THE HOMEOWNER THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? NO. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE, A MOTION SORRY. WHAT? I MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY CASE 25LC-028. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL THOSE AGAINST IT. AND I AM ABSTAINING FROM VOTING ON THIS ONE. OKAY, THAT ONE PASSES. NEXT WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM 25PA-003. OKAY. SO THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS. AT THE JUNE 2ND MEETING, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION APPROVED AN ACTION ITEM TO DIRECT STAFF TO DEVELOP A WINDOW POLICY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. THE CURRENT SITUATION, THE BASIC TENET OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE DIFFERENTIATED FROM HISTORIC BUILDINGS, AND NEW BUILDINGS SHOULD NOT IMITATE OLDER BUILDINGS, SO AS NOT TO CREATE A FALSE SENSE OF HISTORY. IN APPLYING THIS TENET, STAFF HAS HISTORICALLY RECOMMENDED THE USE OF 1 OVER 1 WINDOWS FOR ADDITIONS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION. CURRENTLY, RECENTLY, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS DISCUSSED BROADENING THIS INTERPRETATION AND HAS DIRECTED STAFF TO PROVIDE A NEW POLICY FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY. SO THE POLICY IS TO ESTABLISH DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE USE OF MULTI PAINT WINDOWS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ADDITIONS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND GALVESTON LANDMARKS, ENSURING COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT WHILE ACCOMPANYING ACCOMMODATING CONTEMPORARY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS. THE STATEMENT WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT , MULTI PAINT WINDOWS ARE CONSIDERED AN APPROPRIATE WINDOW STYLE FOR USE IN NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IN ADDITIONS TO EXISTING STRUCTURES, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS BELOW. THIS POLICY IS IN ADDITION TO ALL STANDARDS IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. THE POLICY APPLIES TO ALL NEW PRIMARY STRUCTURES. ADDITIONS TO CONTRIBUTING OR NON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. THE GUIDELINES ARE, THE WINDOWS SHOULD BE PROPORTIONATE AND FUNCTIONALLY SIMILAR, AND HAVE COMPARABLE MUNTIN OR GRID PATTERNS AS THE EXISTING BUILDING TO USE SIMILAR PROPORTIONS, SIZES AND LOCATIONS OF WINDOWS IS FOUND ON THE EXISTING BUILDING AS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES. ALTERNATIVE WINDOW STYLES MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ADDITIONS, WHERE IT CAN BE DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PROPOSED STYLE IS APPROPRIATE TO A SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, OR CONTEXTUAL TO THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDINGS WITHIN THE DISTRICT. SO YOU CAN USE WINDOWS THAT MATCH THE WINDOWS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE HOUSE, OR YOU CAN USE WINDOWS THAT MATCH THE WINDOWS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY USED IN THE AREA. SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS POLICY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO ACCEPT IT. I SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE AGAINST. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD TO THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS JULY 21ST? NO. OKAY. THE TIME IS 4:39. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. OKAY. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.