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GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

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WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

[Landmark Commission on June 2, 2025.]

TODAY IS MONDAY, JUNE 2ND AND THE TIME IS 4:00.

WE WILL START THE MEETING OFF WITH ATTENDANCE. COMMISSIONER ALLEN? HERE, PRESENT. VICE CHAIRPERSON BOURGEOIS? PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER CHASTAIN WILL BE ABSENT. CHAIRPERSON CLICK? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER FITZ? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LANGDALE? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SMITH? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER STETZEL-THOMPSON? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER THIERRY IS CURRENTLY ABSENT.

EX-OFFICIO CM COUNCIL. I'M SORRY. EX-OFFICIO SHARON LEWIS? THANK YOU. OKAY, MOVING TO ITEM FOUR. WE HAVE BEFORE US MINUTES FROM OUR LAST THREE MEETINGS, ITEMS 4.A, 4.B, AND 4.C, WHICH ARE APRIL 21ST, MAY 5TH AND MAY 19TH´S MINUTES.

DID ANY COMMISSIONERS SEE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO ANY OF THESE? NO? OKAY, SEEING NONE, ITEMS 4.A, 4.B, AND 4.C STAND APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS? SWEET. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IT'S CASE 25LC-026 (1811 AVENUE K). A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ALTERATIONS TO A STRUCTURE INCLUDING A DOOR REPLACEMENT.

THIS IS A REAR DOOR REPLACEMENT, A SLIDING GLASS DOOR.

IT'S A WOOD CONSTRUCTION. NOW THE PROPOSAL IS FINAL.

IT'S ON A NON HISTORIC PART OF THE HOUSE. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.

OKAY. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS OR WISH TO PULL THIS ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER? NUMBER SEVEN, NEW BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE HAVE FOUR CASES FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS STARTING WITH CASE 25LC-021 (1515 24TH STREET).

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ALTERATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING RETENTION OF FRONT PORCH RAILINGS.

SIX NOTICES WERE SENT TO RETURN, ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.

IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, THE WORK WAS PERFORMED WITHOUT A PERMIT AND A RED TAG WAS ISSUED.

THE WORK INCLUDED THE INSTALLATION OF NEW RAILINGS ON THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR PORCHES.

IN SUMMARY, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, SINCE 2020, MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO FIND A CONTRACTOR CAPABLE OF RECREATING THE ORIGINAL ONE INCH BY ONE INCH GRID PATTERN HANDRAIL WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.

THE UPPER AND LOWER RAILINGS WERE DAMAGED DURING HURRICANE CAROL IN JULY OF 2024, ALLOWING WATER TO ACCESS THE HOME'S SECOND LEVEL.

UNAWARE THAT COMMISSION APPROVAL WAS REQUIRED, THE RAILINGS AND DAMAGED ROOF WERE REPLACED USING A DIFFERENT STYLE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REPLACE THE RAILINGS WITH THE STANDARD RAILING DESIGN AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C.

PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

CONFORMANCE. STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

THE PREVIOUS RAILING WAS UNUSUAL IN DESIGN AND A CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE OF THE HOUSE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE RAILINGS BE RETURNED TO THEIR ORIGINAL APPEARANCE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

ONE, THE PORCH RAILING SHALL BE RETURNED TO THEIR ORIGINAL APPEARANCE, AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT B AND TWO, THE WORK SHALL BE COMPLETED WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION DECISION, AND THREE AS A STANDARD CONDITION REGARDING APPEALS.

HOWEVER, SHOULD THE LANDMARK COMMISSION FIND THE REQUEST CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS MAY BE APPROPRIATE. SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE, THE EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN, MATERIAL AND PLACEMENT AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT, AND THEN STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANOTHER CONDITION REGARDING THE TIMELINE FOR REPLACEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE THE SAME AS NUMBER TWO, UNDER DENIAL THAT THE WORK TAKE PLACE WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE APPROVAL, AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS IT LOOKS TODAY.

THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OLDER PICTURES. THIS IS A PHOTO THAT WE HAD IN OUR FILES FROM 2015 THAT SHOWS THE ORIGINAL HANDRAIL DESIGN.

AND THIS IS A PICTURE SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE DAMAGE AFTER HURRICANE BERYL.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE STANDARD HANDRAIL RAILING DESIGN.

SO THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT BE APPROVED TODAY IS THE REPLACEMENT OF WHAT'S BEEN PUT UP WITH OUR STANDARD HANDRAIL DESIGN.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

THANK YOU, CATHERINE. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO.

OKAY. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25LC-021.

IS THE APPLICANT, MISS WINSLOW HERE? W OULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT? IF YOU COULD SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.

LAURIE WINSLOW.

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OKAY. I PURCHASED THIS HOME IN MARCH OF 2019, AND AT THE TIME, THE RAILINGS UPPER AND LOWER AT THE TIME OF INSPECTION WERE SOFT AND JUST SPONGE.

I TRIED AT THAT TIME TO FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD REPLACE THEM AND WAS UNSUCCESSFUL.

AND SO I WAS ADVISED TO SPRAY THEM WITH A POLYMER TYPE PAINT WHICH HELD THEM TOGETHER.

THEY WERE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED OF ONE BY ONES.

AND ALL OF THOSE PIECES WERE ABOUT THREE INCHES LONG AND THEY'RE NAILED TOGETHER.

I SPOKE TO, I CAN'T, 5 OR 6 LOCAL CONTRACTORS.

THE ONLY ONE THAT I FOUND WHO SAID THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY DO IT WOULD GO THROUGH A MILL SHOP.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT A $10,000 SETUP. AND SO I WAS MISINFORMED.

WHENEVER I PURCHASED THE HOUSE, I DID ASK IF IT WAS GOVERNED BY THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND WAS TOLD NO, THAT SILK STOCKING DISTRICT WAS A DESIGNATED DISTRICT, BUT THE HOUSE WAS NOT.

SO THIS COULD HAVE ALL BEEN, I GUESS, AVOIDED HAD I KNOWN THAT.

I HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR A PERIOD OF YEARS TO FIND SOMEONE OR AN ALTERNATIVE.

I WANTED TO KEEP THAT UNIQUE PATTERN. AND SO I DID FIND SOME HOMES IN THE AREA WHO HAD THE STYLE OF RAILING.

I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT AS DELICATE. I WAS LOOKING FOR THE GRID PATTERN AND SOMETHING THAT I SAW LOCAL.

AND SO THAT WAS WHERE THAT CAME FROM. AT THE TIME OF THE STORM, I HAD JUST UNDERTAKEN A PERMITTED REMODEL OF THE BATHROOM. AND SO THE CONTRACTORS WHO WERE THERE, I WAS USING KONA PLUMBING, AND THEY HAD SOME CONTRACTORS WHO WERE ALSO DOING OTHER EXTERNAL WORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO I ASKED THEM IF THEY COULD DUPLICATE THIS, AND THEY SAID NO.

AND SO I SHOWED THEM PHOTOS OF WHAT I HAD TAKEN AROUND TOWN, OF WHAT WE WENT WITH, AND THAT WAS WHAT THEY DID.

THE UP UPPER AREA WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S DOWN.

ALL OF THOSE POSTS WERE ROTTED AND IT HAD ROTTED THROUGH THE THE ROOF THERE AND IT GOES INTO THE FIRST FLOOR.

AND SO I HAD WATER, JUST BIG HOLES, I HAD WATER, I HAD TO GET THE THING FIXED ANYWAY.

SO IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT I HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK TO THIS, I WOULD PLEASE REQUEST THAT YOU ADVISE ME WHO COULD DO THAT? BECAUSE I HAVE RUN OUT OF OPTIONS TO FIND SOMEONE.

THANK YOU. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO? OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO? OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.

I'LL MAKE ONE. I MOVE THAT WE DENY CASE 25LC-021 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WITH THE SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT THE MODIFICATION SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN, MATERIAL AND PLACEMENT AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C AS THE STAFF REPORT.

SECOND. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? CAN I JUST CLARIFY? SO, IN THE IN THE DENIAL RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WERE RECOMMENDING THAT IT RETURNED TO THE ORIGINAL APPEARANCE AS SHOWN IN B.

AND THAT'S THE OKAY. SO JUST TO BE ON THE RECORD.

YOU WANT TO START OVER, DONNA? YEAH? OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE DENY CASE 25LC-021 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IN INCLUDING THE CONDITION THAT THE PORCH RAILINGS ARE RETURNED TO THEIR ORIGINAL APPEARANCE, AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT B.

I'LL SECOND. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? NO? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR? OKAY. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES.

OUR NEXT CASE IS 25LC-022 (212 KEMPNER). ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS ANOTHER CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING A NEW CANOPY AND A THIRD FLOOR ADDITION.

THERE WERE EIGHT PUBLIC NOTICES SENT. ONE OF THOSE WAS RETURNED.

THAT ONE WAS IN FAVOR. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO INSTALL A ROOFTOP ADDITION, INCLUDING A NEW CONDITION SPACE DECKING AND ROOFTOP PATIO ALONG

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THE MID-BLOCK ALLEY SIDE. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO INSTALL NEW WINDOWS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH FACADES IN CONJUNCTION WITH INTERIOR FLOOR PLAN CHANGES.

AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ADD A CANOPY EXTENDING OVER THE SIDEWALK INTO THE 22ND STREET RIGHT OF WAY.

NOTE THE MATERIALS LIST PROPOSED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND ALSO PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT MAY BE APPLICABLE.

SO STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST PARTIALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE THIRD FLOOR.

ROOFTOP ADDITION IS LOCATED IN LOCATION B, HIGHLY VISIBLE SECONDARY WALL, AND ALSO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE LOCATION C, LESS VISIBLE SECONDARY WALL AND THE PRESERVATION IS PREFERRED, BUT ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY EXISTS FOR COMPATIBLE ALTERATIONS.

HOWEVER, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE ALONG THE THIRD STORY, WELL ABOVE EYE LEVEL, AND NOTE THE NORTH FACADE FACES PRIMARILY OTHER STRUCTURES WITH LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEDESTRIAN VIEWS, CERTAINLY NOT AT ANY CLOSE DISTANCE. FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THOSE CHANGES, BUT RECOMMENDS THE USE OF ONE OVER ONE WINDOWS AS OUR STANDARD RECOMMENDATION, TO CLEARLY DENOTE NEW WINDOWS AND NEW OPENINGS.

STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS SETTING THE THIRD FLOOR ADDITIONS BACK AT LEAST 18IN FROM THE HISTORIC FACADE, IF FEASIBLE. IF NOT, STAFF RECOMMENDS ADDING SOME SORT OF VISUAL DETAIL TO DIFFERENTIATE THE ORIGINAL WALLS FROM THE HISTORIC BRICK THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO USE FOR THE ADDITION. THE APPLICANT ALSO PROPOSES TO ADD METAL AND WOOD SHUTTERS TO THE NEW WINDOW OPENINGS TO MATCH EXISTING SHUTTERS, WHICH CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS. FINALLY, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ADD A WOOD METAL CANOPY ACROSS THE 22ND STREET SIDEWALK FOR THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ADDITION.

THE PROPOSED CANOPY IS OF A SIMPLE DESIGN, FAIRLY MINIMAL, AND IN SANBORN INSURANCE MAPS SHOW THAT THE STRUCTURE HAD A CANOPY FOR MULTIPLE DECADES IN THE PAST. OF COURSE, A LICENSE TO USE A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THAT.

THAT'S TYPICALLY REVIEWED AT A STAFF LEVEL FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS REQUESTS BE APPROVED WITH STANDARD SPECIFIC CONDITIONS 1 A THROUGH C, PLUS STANDARD CONDITIONS 2 THROUGH 7.

WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE, AND I BELIEVE AFTER THAT WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT. BUT HERE IS THE BUILDING IN QUESTION, OF COURSE IT'S THE TRUEHEART BUILDING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HERE WE HAVE SOME OF THE PROJECT ARCHITECTS EXHIBITS SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE THIRD FLOOR ADDITION AND KIND OF THE GENERAL LOCATION OF SOME OF THE UPPER WINDOWS IN THE THIRD FLOOR. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ONCE AGAIN, MORE OF THE APPLICANTS SUBMITTALS AND THEN THE FLOOR PLAN SHOWING WHERE THOSE NEW WINDOWS WOULD BE PROPOSED.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM BASICALLY THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE STRUCTURE, YOU WOULD SEE WHERE THAT PROPOSED ROOFTOP ADDITION WOULD BE.

AND PLUS A HISTORIC PHOTO THERE SHOWING A CANOPY IN THE PAST.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? AND HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

AND THEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TAKEN AS SEEN FROM BASICALLY THE CURB THERE AT THE ALLEY AND THEN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, TO THE WEST, AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

THANK YOU, DANIEL. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO, CAN YOU LET ME KNOW MORE WHAT YOU MEAN BY SET BACK THE SOUTH FACADE BY 18IN? I BELIEVE THAT'S A STANDARD CONDITION FOR ANY SORT OF AN UPPER ADDITION.

IT SERVES TO DIFFERENTIATE OLD FROM NEW. BUT IF THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE, STAFF MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO SOMEHOW OTHERWISE VISUALLY DIFFERENTIATE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THEY'RE PROPOSING TO USE HISTORIC REPLACEMENT BRICKS, SALVAGED BRICK.

WE DON'T DECIDE IF IT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT. WE JUST GIVE THEM, THE STAFF IS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY LATER ON THIS SIDE OR? RIGHT. SO WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THE REASON FOR, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM DOING THAT.

SO WE WANT TO GIVE THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, YES, SIR. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER SO. NOR ARE WE.

ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO? OKAY.

WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25-LC-022.

IS THE APPLICANT, MR. EASTERWOOD HERE? THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSION. THANK YOU, DANIEL, FOR YOUR STAFF REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A PRESENTATION. JUST A COUPLE SLIDES HERE.

SOME OF IT'S DUPLICATE OF WHAT DANIEL HAS ALREADY PRESENTED.

BUT IT'S A FANTASTIC BUILDING. SO HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON ANOTHER NICHOLAS CLAYTON IN GALVESTON.

IT'S REALLY AN HONOR. AND IT'S REALLY A VERY SPECIAL BUILDING.

WE'RE ASKING TO REBUILD THE CANOPY FOR SAFETY CONCERNS, THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A RAILING TO THAT BECAUSE THOSE WINDOWS WOULD BE

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ACCESSIBLE TO THE TOP OF THAT BALCONY. THE ADDITION ON THE BACK IS NOT VISIBLE.

IT, LET'S SEE, DID YOU HAVE A FLOOR PLAN IN YOUR PRESENTATION AT ALL? YEAH. SO THE ADDITION IS ON THE THE NORTHEAST CORNER, AND THAT'S WHERE THE ELEVATOR IS, AND THE STAIR ACCESS TO THE NEW MASTER LEVEL, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE ATTIC ON THE THIRD FLOOR THERE.

AND GIVEN THAT CONFIGURATION, RESPECTFULLY, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR US TO SET THAT WALL, THOSE NEW WALLS IN FROM THE OTHER, JUST FOR THAT REASON. BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE IN SOME WAY THE BRICKS EVEN IF IT'S JUST AS SIMPLE AS USING A SOLDIER COURSE VERTICALLY AND THEN GOING BACK TO A HORIZONTAL STACK.

TYPICAL STACK PATTERN, JUST SOMETHING TO VISUALLY INDICATE THAT IT'S NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.

I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY EASY FIX FOR US. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK WE'RE FINE WITH.

AND I WANTED TO JUST SHOW KIND OF WHAT THE INTERIOR LOOKS LIKE.

NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUILDING UNLESS YOU WERE A JUNIOR LEAGUER.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SPACES INSIDE LOOK LIKE.

YEAH, IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. AND THEN THAT'S JUST A SHOT DOWN THAT ALLEYWAY AND YOU CAN SEE, WHERE THE BUILDING STEPS DOWN TOWARDS THE BACK IS WHERE WE WOULD BE ADDING SOME BRICKS TO THE TOP OF THAT PARAPET THAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

SO THAT PARAPET WOULD COME UP. WE WOULD HAVE A PARAPET ABOVE THAT THAT'S MADE OF THE SALVAGED BRICK.

AND THEN THE STAIR ADDITION, IF YOU GO BACK AGAIN, IS, LIKE I SAID, ON THE NORTH-EAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING, AND SO IT REALLY WON'T BE VISIBLE EXCEPT FROM THE ART CENTER PROBABLY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. DO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE ONE QUESTION. YEAH, SURE. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE HISTORIC PHOTO OF THE BUILDING? AND I'M LOOKING AT THE SANBORN MAPS AS WELL. SO HISTORICALLY, WAS THERE EVER A RAILING ABOVE THAT SPACE? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO. AND THE SANBORN MAPS, WAS IT NOT? IT WASN'T A WOOD RAILING WITH THE PORCH. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S.

I JUST WORRY ABOUT CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT OF THOSE WALK OUT WINDOWS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT A FALSE SENSE OF HISTORY WITH THE METAL RAILINGS, BUT THAT'S JUST A CONCERN THAT I HAVE JUST FROM LOOKING AT IT. HOW LONG WAS THE CANOPY THERE? DO WE KNOW? BECAUSE IT'S NOT ORIGINAL, CORRECT? NOT TO THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.

OKAY. IS THE GAS LAMP GOING TO BE AFFECTED OR CAN IT STAY? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THEM. BUT THEY'LL BE REINCORPORATED.

OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION? NO? NO. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HELLO. LAURA BOURGEOIS FOR GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION.

WHILE THERE IS HISTORIC DOCUMENTATION THAT A CANOPY WAS HERE, WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO OBSCURE THAT BRICK BAND ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR.

THE NATIONAL REGISTER APPLICATION FOR THIS BUILDING GOES INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT ALL THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THIS BUILDING, SPECIFICALLY OF THE BRICKWORK, BECAUSE IT'S VERY UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT NOT ONLY IS IT HAS A DESIGN TO IT. NICHOLAS CLAYTON ALSO SPECIFIED DIFFERENT COLORED BRICKS TO PARTICULARLY DEPICT THAT DESIGN.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME HISTORIC IMAGES FROM THE 70S AND 80S WHERE THE BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY PAINTED ALL ONE COLOR.

AND AS PART OF THE REHAB OF THIS BUILDING, ALL THAT PAINT WAS STRIPPED AWAY TO SHOW THE DIFFERENT BRICK COLORS AND

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MATERIALS FOR THIS BUILDING. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF PROBABLY MOST ORNATE FACADES IN THE STRAND/MECHANIC DISTRICT. SO WE'RE JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS PUT, IT'S NOT GOING TO FURTHER DAMAGE THE FACADE OR THE DESIGN.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HI. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN FOR US, PLEASE.

HI, I'M CATHERINE BUERGLER, AND I OWN THE TRUEHEART BUILDING.

MY NAME IS CATHERINE BUERGLER. I OWN THE TRUEHEART BUILDING.

I GREW UP IN GALVESTON IN A HISTORIC HOME ON 35TH AND M.

MY CHILDHOOD WAS SPENT VOLUNTEERING AND [INAUDIBLE] STUFF, AND THE TRUEHEART BUILDING HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE.

I TAKE MY STEWARDSHIP IN THE BUILDING VERY SERIOUSLY.

IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, I'VE REPAIRED THE SHUTTERS USING 100 YEAR OLD WOOD BECAUSE THE WOOD ROTS, THAT IS NEWER. I'VE REPOINTED AND REPAIRED THE BRICKS AFTER FINDING THEM THREE YEARS LATER THAT ARE FROM THE 1880S.

SAME COLOR AND SAME SHAPE WAS VERY HARD TO FIND.

I REPAIRED THE CORNICE THAT WAS RUSTING AWAY BY FINDING A METAL FABRICATOR THAT USES TOOLS THAT ARE OLD WORLD TOOLS AND CREATED COMPLETE REPLICAS OF THE CORBELS BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL RUSTED OUT IN THE SOFFITS.

AND NOW I'M ASKING TO DO THE APARTMENT. AND REGARDING THE CANOPY, I KNEW THIS WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A THING.

I KNOW THIS IS A BELOVED BUILDING AND CHANGES WILL MAKE SOME PEOPLE UPSET, BUT THE CANOPY IS PART OF THE BUILDING'S HISTORIC PAST AND OFFERS BENEFITS TO HELP MAINTAIN IT. THE CANOPY IS NOT ORIGINAL TO THE BUILDING, BUT IT WAS INSTALLED BY HM T RUEHEART AROUND TEN YEARS AFTER THE BUILDING WAS BUILT.

IT WENT THROUGH THE 1900 STORM AND WAS THERE UP UNTIL POSSIBLY 1946, ACCORDING TO THE SANBORN MAPS. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE BUILDING'S HISTORY.

THE CANOPY WILL HELP PROTECT THE WINDOWS, DOORS AND BRICK ON THE FIRST FLOOR FROM THE WESTERN SUN AND RAIN, WHICH HAS DONE A NUMBER ON THEM OVER THE YEARS.

THE CANOPY WILL ALSO GIVE ME ACCESS TO THE SECOND FLOOR FOR EASIER MAINTENANCE OF THE WINDOWS AND THE BRICKS, AND I WILL BE ABLE TO REACH THE WINDOWS TO HANG UP COVERS DURING HURRICANES, WHICH WILL NOT ONLY PROTECT THOSE WINDOWS, IT WILL ALSO PROTECT ALL OF THAT PRETTY WOODWORK ON THE INSIDE.

I'M WORKING WITH HOWARD PAGE, A BRICK MASON, AND JIM AUSTIN, A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO SAFELY ATTACH THE CANOPY, DOING THE LEAST DAMAGE TO THE BUILDING. WE WILL REMOVE ANY DECORATIVE BRICKS THAT COULD BE DAMAGED BY THE ANCHORING OF THE CANOPY, AND MAKE SURE TO SAVE THEM FOR FURTHER USE SO PEOPLE CAN RE-DO IT IF THEY SO CHOOSE.

I'M TRYING TO HONOR THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO MAKE IT A COMFORTABLE HOME FOR MY FAMILY.

I HOPE THE CHANGES ARE APPROVED AND I CAN KEEP REHABILITATING AND HONORING THE BUILDING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO? OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH. I'M SORRY.

HI, COME ON UP. MY NAME IS DAVID WATSON. I'M A LOCAL ARCHITECT. AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, I WAS THE ARCHITECT THAT DID THE INTERIOR RESTORATION FOR THE MOVIE WOMEN OF INDEPENDENT MEANS WHEN IT WAS FILMED ON THE SITE.

THE TRUEHEART-ADRIANCE BUILDING IS ONE OF GALVESTON'S TRULY ICONIC BUILDINGS, AND DESERVES SPECIAL ATTENTION TO ENSURE IT ENDURES THE GENERATIONS TO COME.

AS CURRENTLY SHOWN IN THIS PROPOSAL, THERE ARE NO DETAILS FOR THE CANOPY.

THE SIX INCH SUPPORT COLUMNS ARE OVERLY LARGE FOR TYPICAL HISTORIC CANOPIES.

THE FRAMING FOR DECK IS NOT DETAILED AT ALL. THE CONNECTION TO THE BUILDING IS ALSO LACKING.

THE AREA HAS DETAILED BRICKWORK THAT WILL BE OBSCURED OR WORSE, IRREPARABLY DAMAGED.

IT IS SUSPECTED THAT THE 12 INCH DECK FRAMING SHOWN WILL FINALLY BE DETAILED AROUND 24IN TALL.

ALSO, THE BUILDING FALLS UNDER THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING CODE, WHICH REQUIRES A 42 INCH HIGH RAILING.

THE NEW WINDOWS SHOWN IN THE NORTH ELEVATION, ARE ON A SHARED PROPERTY LINE, AND THEREFORE MUST BE FIRE RATED IF ALLOWED BY CODE AT ALL.

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EXISTING WINDOWS ARE GRANDFATHERED. AN EXISTING WINDOW IS BEING CONVERTED TO A DOOR ON THE PROPERTY LINE.

IS THERE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE GALVESTON ARTS CENTER THAT ALLOWS THIS? THE DOOR, IF ALLOWED BY CODE, WILL ALSO NEED TO BE FIRE RATED AND SHOULD MATCH THE WINDOW WIDTH.

THE PROPOSED ADDITION EAST EDITION DOES NOT ADDRESS THE UTILITIES EASEMENT FOR ELECTRICAL AND DATA.

THE CENTER POINT FEED FOR THE GALVESTON ARTS CENTER GOES FROM THE ALLEY NORTH TO THE ARTS CENTER IN THIS AREA.

THIS CONDITION OCCURS IN NUMEROUS LOCATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN.

HOW IS THIS EASEMENT BEING ADDRESSED WITH THE PROPOSED ADDITION? ALSO NOTE THERE IS A COMMERCIAL SPACE ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

THE SECOND FLOOR OFFICE SPACE IS BEING CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL, REQUIRING A FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

THE SECOND FLOOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN OFFICE SPACE AND THEREFORE CONVERTING TO RESIDENTIAL IS NOT GRANDFATHERED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE ONE. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 25LC-022 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, OMITTING THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS 1 A AND B, I DON'T FEEL THE ROOFTOP ADDITION IS VISIBLE FROM ANYWHERE EXCEPT THE ALLEY, AND EVEN THEN IT'S WAY ABOVE EYE LEVEL, AND I DON'T THINK THE 18 INCH SETBACK IS NECESSARY.

THE NEW WINDOWS ARE ALSO LOCATED ON THE UPPER SIDES OF THE BUILDING, GENERALLY NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET OR PEDESTRIANS.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD. YEAH. MY CONCERN IS THE CANOPY, ESPECIALLY THE TALL RAILINGS ON THERE AND HIDING THE FACADE.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SAID, THOUGH.

GREAT. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DESIGN DETAILS, AND I THINK WE COULD USE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT JUST AS A COMMENT. THE FACT THAT IT WAS THERE BEFORE, DOES THAT MATTER IN OUR? NO? TO ME, NOT BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINAL AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT WASN'T THERE A LONG PART OF THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING? AND THE NEW ONE WILL HAVE A VERY TALL RAILING ON IT, WHICH CONCERNS ME, COVERING UP A LOT OF DETAIL. OKAY. GO AHEAD. YOU THINK WE NEED TO DEFER THE REQUEST AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION? I MEAN, GOOD POINTS ON BOTH SIDES.

I'M A LITTLE CONFLICTED. WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION DO YOU NEED? WELL, JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. WATSON BROUGHT UP, THOSE SPECIFICS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT CANOPY, TOO, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE POSITION OF THE HOMEOWNER OR THE BUILDING OWNER, SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT TOO. I THINK WE'RE CALLING IT A CANOPY, BUT I'D CALL IT A PORCH.

THE REVERSIBILITY OF IT IS A LITTLE BIT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THIS THAN JUST BEING A CANOPY. SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT AS WELL, SINCE THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT BUILDING IN THE DISTRICT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? NO? OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR? OKAY, MY MOTION FAILS.

DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER IT? YES.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER THIS 25LC-022 FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. FOR DEFERRAL, WE NEED A DATE TO BE DEFERRED TO, AND I'D RECOMMEND JULY 7TH. YOUR NEXT MEETING IS JUNE 16TH, BUT WE'RE FINISHING UP OUR STAFF REPORTS FOR THAT THIS WEEK.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR THE 16TH, BUT WE'D RECOMMEND THE 7TH.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS OR WHAT INFORMATION WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE BROUGHT FORTH AND FROM WHOM? I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION. SO THE COMMENTS ABOUT EASEMENT AND STUFF IS IN OUR PURVIEW, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CITY IS LOOKING AT THAT? CORRECT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. JUST TO HAVE FURTHER DRAWINGS, MAYBE SHOWING EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE IS,

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WE SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CANOPY PART.

SO I MEAN, MORE DETAIL OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE HIDDEN OF THE BUILDING, HOW THE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO ACTUALLY LOOK.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S FROM THE APPLICANT, THEN? ARE THE ARCHITECTS? YES. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO DRAW IT UP AND EXPLAIN IT TO US.

FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SPECIFICITY.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND FOR MOTION FOR DEFERRAL? I SECOND. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, TAKE A VOTE.

ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR? OKAY, THE MOTION PASSES.

NEXT, WE HAVE CASE 25LC-024 (2424 AVENUE L). THIS IS ANOTHER CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, AND THIS IS ANOTHER GALVESTON LANDMARK. IN THIS CASE, IT'S FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING ENCLOSING A REAR PORCH.

THERE WERE FIVE PUBLIC NOTICES SENT. ONE RETURNED AND THAT ONE WAS IN FAVOR.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ALTERATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING CONVERTING AN EXISTING REAR SCREEN PORCH TO AN ENCLOSED, CONDITIONED LIVING SPACE. ACCORDING TO APPLICANT SUBMITTAL THE PROPOSED MATERIALS WILL BE A EXISTING ROOF STRUCTURE TO REMAIN, A SMOOTH, HARDY TRIM AND CORNER BOARDS, SMOOTH HARDY PANELS AND BATTENS TO REFLECT THE FRONT PORCH HANDRAIL DESIGN AS SORT OF A VISUAL ELEMENT.

AND THEN SITE BUILT WOOD TWO OVER TWO WINDOWS TO MATCH EXISTING WINDOWS ON THE MAIN HOUSE.

PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH MAY BE APPROPRIATE.

SO STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

THE SCREEN PORCH IS IN LOCATION D IN A TYPICALLY VISIBLE REAR FACADE WHERE, OF COURSE, MORE FLEXIBILITY AND TREATMENT MAY BE CONSIDERED, ESPECIALLY FOR COMPATIBLE REPLACEMENT OR ALTERATIONS.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO USE MODERN MATERIALS SUCH AS HARDY TREATMENT WALL PANELS, WHICH IS ACCEPTABLE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WHILE THE PORCH ISN'T NEW, ACCORDING TO SANBORN INSURANCE MAPS, IT CAN BE A STRONG INDICATION OF MODERN CHANGES TO USE THESE ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS IN THIS LOCATION. IN ADDITION, ADDING A PATTERN TO THE EXTERIOR WALL WHICH MATCHES THE FRONT PORCH RAIL COULD BE CONSIDERED A NEW INTERPRETATION OF HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, WHICH THE DESIGN STANDARD DOES RECOMMEND OR ALLOW.

STAFF HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED TWO OVER TWO WINDOWS AS USUAL.

WHILE THE APPLICANT'S INTENT TO MATCH EXISTING WINDOWS IS UNDERSTANDABLE, WE DO TYPICALLY RECOMMEND NEW WINDOWS AND NEW OPENINGS BE A ONE OVER ONE LIGHT CONFIGURATION AS A STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE NEW FROM HISTORIC, AND SO WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL REQUESTS WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS 1 AND 1 A BEING THE PROPOSED WINDOWS TO BE ONE OVER ONE CONFIGURATION, PLUS STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH SIX.

AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS. SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SEEN FROM THE STREET.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE REAR OF THE HOUSE AT ALL FROM THE STREET.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW HERE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT'S SITE PLAN SHOWING WHERE THIS PORCH IS LOCATED.

A COUPLE OF OBLIQUE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERS SHOWING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN COMPLETED.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST, TO THE SOUTH.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU DANIEL.

DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH. THERE'S NO PICTURES OF THE BACK PORCH THAT WE HAVE OR ANYTHING SO WE CAN SEE? OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.

OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25LC-024. ASK.

MR. EASTERWOOD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL US ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, DANIEL, AGAIN FOR YOUR STAFF REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT PORCH HERE, A RENDERING OF IT FROM THE EAST SIDE.

AND THEN I THINK I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OTHER PICTURES FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IT'S AN EXISTING PORCH. THAT'S A PICTURE OF THE PORCH AS IT IS TODAY.

AND THAT'S A HISTORIC. YEAH, IT LOOKS KIND OF LIKE A BEACH HOUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT LAST.

THOSE LOUVERS IS MORE OF A WEST END KIND OF A LOOK ABOUT IT.

WHEREAS INSIDE THE PORCH WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT SIDING.

AND ALSO EVEN THE PORCH FLOOR AND JUST SEAL IT FROM UNDERNEATH.

BUT RATHER THAN GOING BACK WITH LOUVERS LIKE THAT, WHICH REALLY AREN'T REALLY THAT APPROPRIATE TO THE BUILDING, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN A SOLID SORT OF PONY WALL THERE WITH THE PATTERN THAT REFERENCES THE FRONT PORCH RAIL PATTERNS.

AND WE WOULD ALSO RESPECTFULLY LIKE TO USE OUR WINDOW PATTERN AS REPRESENTED RATHER THAN DO A ONE OVER ONE.

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THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO? OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

MR. EASTERWOOD. YES, MA'AM. DOES THE LITTLE GIRL IN THE PET COME WITH THE.

YEAH, THAT'S HIS SON. THAT'S HIS SON. AND THAT'S THE CUTEST DOG IN THE WORLD THAT'S NAMED BUNNY.

OH, BUNNY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU'RE PULLING ON SOME HEARTSTRINGS.

I'M NOT SAYING IT. I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO SEE WHAT'S INSIDE TOO TODAY.

HI, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR US, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS KEVIN SCOTT, PROPERTY OWNER, 2424 AVENUE L. JUST NEED TO SAY UP FRONT. MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE ALMOST 20 YEARS THIS YEAR. THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD HISTORIC HOME THAT WE GET TO PLEASURE TO BE STEWARDS OF HERE IN GALVESTON.

FORMER [INAUDIBLE] PRESERVATION AWARD WINNERS, 2318 AVENUE M.

WE LANDMARKED OUR LAST PROPERTY, 1310 HARBOR VIEW DRIVE, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THAT WAS OUR LAST TIME IN FRONT OF THIS GLORIOUS COMMISSION.

AND TODAY, WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIVABLE SPACE OUT OF THIS SCREEN PORCH THAT WAS DONE BY THE PREVIOUS OWNERS.

EVEN BEFORE LANDMARKING THIS PROPERTY BEFORE WE BOUGHT IT ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

LIKE BRAX SAID, WE'RE NOT BIG FANS OF THE ONE OVER ONE LOOK.

THEY'RE TECHNICALLY EVEN. I THINK BRAX'S PLAN IS PROPOSED FOUR OVER FOUR.

THE STAFF REPORT INCORRECTLY SAYS TWO OVER TWO, BUT FOUR OVER FOUR IF YOU CAN FLIP BACK THROUGH.

THAT'S NOT A GOOD PICTURE, BUT GO TO THE FRONT ELEVATION SHOT.

THERE YOU GO. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE FOUR OVER FOUR WINDOWS.

WE HAVE NO ONE OVER ONE WINDOWS, NO TWO OVER TWO WINDOWS.

THERE ARE SOME NEWER WINDOWS ON AN ENCLOSED UPPER LAUNDRY ROOM THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY THAT OUR BRAND NEW WINDOWS, ALSO WITH A DIVIDED LIGHT PATTERN THAT IS NOT A FIXED OR ONE OVER ONE WINDOW.

SO IT JUST WOULDN'T MATCH. AND ESTHETICALLY IT WOULD NOT BE PLEASING TO US WHO HAVE TO LIVE THERE, PAY THE TAXES, PAY THE UPKEEP, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

RESPECT THE HISTORIC NATURE OF WANTING TO DIFFERENTIATE NEW CONSTRUCTION FROM OLD.

BUT STAFF REPORT EVEN SAYS THIS. NOBODY'S GOING TO SEE THIS.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET IN MY BACKYARD TO SEE IT.

SO ANY QUESTIONS? HE'S CONSIDERED AN APPLICANT, RIGHT? SO WE CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO? OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25LC-024 AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION.

GO AHEAD. I MAKE A MOTION ON CASE 25LC-024 THAT WE APPROVE THIS FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE HAVE A SECOND. CAN I, REMEMBER THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH 1 A BECAUSE IT SAYS ONE OVER ONE. ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE THAT OR? DO YOU WANT TO OMIT THE WINDOWS? I MEAN, OMIT THAT CONDITION.

YEAH. OKAY. YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT. OKAY. OMIT THE ONE OVER ONE SPECIFIC CONDITION 1A, CORRECT? YES. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT ADDITION TO THE? YES. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY.

WE'LL HAVE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES.

APPROPRIATENESS. CASE 25LC-025 (1411 24TH STREET).

ONCE AGAIN, A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING USE OF ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL AND REMOVAL OF EXISTING CHIMNEYS.

THERE WERE SIX PUBLIC NOTICES SENT. ONE RETURNED, AND THAT ONE WAS IN FAVOR.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ALTERATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING REPLACEMENT OF EXTERIOR WOOD SIDING WITH SMOOTH CEMENT SIDING.

THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUESTS TO REMOVE TWO BRICK CHIMNEYS.

BOTH OF THESE REQUESTS ARE, OF COURSE, ASSOCIATED WITH DAMAGE TO THE HOUSE SUSTAINED IN A FIRE HERE NOT TOO LONG AGO.

SO, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THE SMOOTH SIGN WOULD BE ON THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST SIDES OF THE HOUSE. IN OTHER WORDS, ALL BUT THE FRONT, WITH THE EXCEPTION

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OF THE ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL AND REMOVAL OF EXISTING CHIMNEYS.

THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THAT YOU WILL SEE INCLUDES RESTORING ALL COMPONENTS OF THE STRUCTURE TO ORIGINAL APPEARANCE.

SO MOST OF THE SCOPE OF WORK YOU WILL SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT CAN BE REVIEWED AT THE STAFF LEVEL.

SO IN THIS CASE, THE REQUEST IS JUST FOR THE ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL ON THE SIDES, IN THE REAR AND TO REMOVE THOSE TWO CHIMNEYS.

PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. SO STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST PARTIALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES ACCORDING TO THE LOCATION FACADE IMPROVEMENTS CHART ON PAGE 29.

THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THE LOCATIONS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH WOULD BE LOCATION C.

LESS VISIBLE SECONDARY WALLS. PRESERVATION IS STILL PREFERRED, BUT ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY EXISTS FOR COMPATIBLE REPLACEMENT ALTERATION.

OF COURSE, THE WEST FACADE IS LOCATION D NOT TYPICALLY VISIBLE REAR FACADE WHICH WOULD BE THE REAR OF THE HOUSE IN THIS CASE.

AND SO WHILE MORE FLEXIBILITY MAY BE CONSIDERED IN LOCATIONS C AND D, THE DESIGN STANDARDS CALL SPECIFICALLY FOR COMPATIBLE REPLACEMENT.

AND WHILE THE SIDES AND REAR FACADES ARE NOT EASILY VISIBLE, THE USE OF CEMENT SIDING ON A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IS JUST GENERALLY NOT CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS USING WOOD SIDING OF THE SAME DIMENSIONS AND VISUAL APPEARANCE.

THE USE OF WOOD COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED, AS CAN THE CEMENT SIDING CLADDING BELOW THE WALL LEVEL, SO THE THE CLADDING FROM THE GROUND UP TO FINISHED FLOOR COULD BE CEMENT SIDING.

WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE MAIN WALLS OF THE HOUSE.

THE DESIGN STANDARDS DO NOT EXTENSIVELY DISCUSS THE TREATMENT OF HISTORIC CHIMNEYS.

HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE THE CHIMNEYS ARE NOT IN USE AND DEMOLITION IS REQUESTED AS PART OF THE RESTORATION, AND LANDMARK COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY APPROVED REMOVAL OF A CHIMNEY WITH A SIMILAR, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMATIC RELATIONSHIP TO THE HOUSE IN 2020.

PLEASE NOTE ALSO THAT STAFF TYPICALLY ADOPTS A STRICT ENFORCEMENT OF DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES, REGARDLESS TO THE UNIQUE CONDITIONS. LANDMARK COMMISSION, OF COURSE, IS EMPOWERED TO AUTHORIZE EXCEPTIONS BASED ON UNIQUE AND COMPELLING CIRCUMSTANCES, AND STAFF ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE IN ALL INSTANCES, AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THE REASONS FOR THIS REQUEST.

AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR SYMPATHIES FOR IT.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL REQUEST WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS 1 STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH SIX.

AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU, DANIEL.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. NO? OKAY. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25LC-025.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL US ABOUT THIS ONE? IN THIS CASE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO ADDRESS THIS CASE IN SOME WAYS FOR ME, JUST BECAUSE OF THE TRAGEDY THAT WAS THERE.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO PULL ON HEARTSTRINGS LIKE I DID WITH THE PUPPY, BUT IT WAS A VERY TRAGIC THING.

AND THE MCCRACKENS WHO ARE HERE, AND THEY'LL TALK HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT, BUT ARE TRYING TO, IN RESPONSE TO THAT, FIREPROOF THE HOUSE AS MUCH AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.

AND THE FIBER CEMENT SIDING OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T BURN LIKE WOOD DOES BURN.

THE CHIMNEYS, THEY'RE NOT BEING USED. AND SO AS PART OF A REROOF, IT WOULD JUST BE A CLEANER, THE LESS PENETRATIONS, THE BETTER BASICALLY, IS KIND OF THE THINKING THERE.

AND THEY TAKE UP SPACE INSIDE. SO WHILE THEY'RE REDOING ALL OF THIS WORK, THEN NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO BRING THEM DOWN, AND DO ANYTHING ELSE. BUT REALLY NOT MUCH ELSE IS CHANGING ABOUT THE REST OF THE HOUSE OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST TO USE THE HARDIE SIDING.

THEY ALSO PLAN TO INSTALL A SPRINKLER SYSTEM JUST AS PRECAUTIONARY.

HOPEFULLY THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN, BUT JUST TO BE SAFE.

SO THOSE ARE OUR REQUESTS. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT BIG, BUT.

AND THE STAFF REPORT ALSO IT NOTES THAT IF WE WERE TO USE ANOTHER PRODUCT THAT IT WOULD BE IN SCALE, PROPORTION, TEXTURE. AND THAT CEMENTITIOUS FIBERBOARD WITH A SMOOTH FINISH IS ACTUALLY CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY IN THAT 3.34. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

AND MAINTAINING THE WOOD ON THE FRONT, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT ON THE SIDE, WE WOULD USE THE EXACT SAME SPACING WITH A HARDIE FINISH, IT´D BE PAINTED JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND SO I THINK WE KIND OF MEET THAT CONSIDERATION AT LEAST WITH THE HARDIE BOARD.

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AND IT REALLY IS NOT VISIBLE. IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE OTHER HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES.

YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE IT. AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WOOD SIDING IS GREAT, IT'S HISTORIC.

BUT THE WOOD SIDING THAT YOU BUY TODAY IS NOT NEARLY AS SMOOTH AS SOME OF THE OLD STUFF.

IF YOU PUT IT UP, YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE ANYWAY, BECAUSE IT TENDS TO BE CEDAR AND IT TENDS TO HAVE LIKE ALMOST A HAIRY TYPE OF TEXTURE THAT DOESN'T REALLY PAINT VERY WELL. AND SO IN SOME WAYS, A FIBER CEMENT PIECE OF HARDIE IS PAINTED OUT SMOOTHER THAN A NEW PIECE OF WOOD WOULD BE.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS? SO THE NEW SIDING WILL BE THE SAME DIMENSIONS? YES. THE REVEAL WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME. OKAY.

AND THEN WHY THE CHIMNEY? IS THAT FIRE RELATED TO OR IS THAT JUST WELL THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE OLD CHIMNEYS AND THEY'RE JUST NOT USED IS REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.

THEY WEREN'T DAMAGED BY THE FIRE. OKAY. AND THEN THE WINDOWS ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE? WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS THERE? REBUILD THEM OUT OF WOOD, DO THEM CUSTOM BUILT.

ALEX IS GOING TO BUILD THEM IN THE SHOP AND INSTALL THEM OUT OF MAHOGANY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE HERE, SINCE WE'RE.

OKAY, YEAH. THAT'S OURS, THAT'S BEFORE THE FIRE, OBVIOUSLY.

IT´S GOT GREAT FRONT DOORS. AND SO THIS IS AFTER THE FIRE.

WE'RE DOING INTERIOR DAY TODAY. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO FRONT DOORS THERE THAT A WORKER IS SALVAGING ALL THE HARDWARE OFF OF THE DOORS THEMSELVES AREN'T SALVAGEABLE, BUT THE HARDWARE IS.

AND SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE DAMAGE THAT WAS INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THE LIVING ROOM.

OH, AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE VIDEO THAT I FOUND.

SO THIS GUY, I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T THINK IT WILL PLAY.

NO. THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. BUT WHAT HE DOES IS HE BUILDS A LITTLE BOX OUT OF FOUR MATERIALS AND THEN LIGHTS A FIRE INSIDE OF IT.

AND THE VINYL THAT HE USED, YOU KNOW, MELTED IMMEDIATELY.

AND THEN THE WOOD STARTED TO CATCH FIRE, WHICH WAS CEDAR AS WELL, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD BE USING.

AND THEN AN ENGINEERED WOOD REALLY TOOK OFF AT SOME POINT BECAUSE IT'S GOT AN ACCELERANT IN THERE, SOME KIND OF BINDER IN IT. AND SO THAT WENT. BUT THE FIBER CEMENT WAS PERFECTLY FINE THROUGH THE WHOLE TEST.

SO A LITTLE ANECDOTE THERE, BUT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GO AHEAD. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN FOR US, PLEASE.

I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING TO USE MY COMPUTER, BUT MY PRINTER BURNED UP AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REPLACE ONE YET.

MY NAME IS HAROLD MCCRACKEN. MY WIFE AND I RESIDE, OR SHOULD I SAY, DID RESIDE AT 1411 24TH STREET.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PLEAD WITH THIS BOARD TO ALLOW US TO INSTALL THE HARDIE PLANK ON THREE SIDES OF THE HOME THAT DO NOT FACE THE STREET AND TO REMOVE THE CHIMNEYS.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE FIRE MARSHAL IN PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT THIS MATERIAL IS AN AID IN PREVENTING THE SPREAD OF FIRES.

WE'VE ALSO BEEN ADVISED BY OUR CONTRACTOR, ALEX GONZALEZ, WHO'S HERE TODAY, THAT THIS MATERIAL WOULD HAVE PREVENTED APPROXIMATELY 75% OF THE DAMAGE OUR HOME INCURRED FROM CATCHING ON FIRE FROM THE BALL HOUSE.

IN ADDITION, THIS MATERIAL WOULD NOT ONLY PROVIDE ADDED PROTECTION FOR US FROM FIRES, BUT IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROTECTION FOR OUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE MATERIAL WOULD AID IN PREVENTING A FIRE EMANATING FROM OUR HOME, AFFECTING THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEIR SAFETY.

WE CHOSE TO MOVE TO GALVESTON AND PURCHASE A HISTORICAL HOME BECAUSE WE LOVE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE OLD HOMES, AND WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL FEATURES OF OUR HOME.

HOWEVER, HAVING LIVED THROUGH THIS TERRIBLE EVENT.

WHEN I GO TO BED EVERY NIGHT, I WORRY ABOUT WHAT I CAN DO TO PREVENT OR BE PREPARED FOR ANOTHER FIRE.

OVER TIME, MANY OF THE HOMES IN OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT HAVE BEEN MOVED AND OR BUILT CLOSER AND CLOSER TOGETHER THAT TODAY A FIRE AT ONE STRUCTURE IS ALMOST GUARANTEED TO DAMAGE THE ADJOINING HOMES. I BELIEVE THAT THERE NOW EXISTS TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE THAT WOULD PRESERVE THE APPEARANCE OF THESE HISTORICAL HOMES, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PROVIDING MUCH NEEDED PROTECTION FROM FIRES.

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HISTORY IS A WONDERFUL TEACHER IF WE LISTEN TO IT.

I ASK THAT YOU REMEMBER THE TERRIBLE FIRE OF 1885 THAT DESTROYED 40 SQUARE BLOCKS, AND IT WAS FINALLY DISTINGUISHED BEFORE IT WAS FINALLY DISTINGUISHED.

THE CITY BACK THEN TOOK ACTION TO PREVENT SUCH AN EVENT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN, BY IMPLEMENTING BUILDING GUIDELINES TO PREVENT THE USE OF CEDAR SHINGLES.

THE CITY REQUIRED THAT ALL FUTURE ROOF SHINGLES HAD TO BE MADE OF CONCRETE SUBSTANCE.

PERHAPS IT IS TIME THAT THE CITY TAKES SIMILAR ACTION REGARDING THE MATERIAL THAT CAN PREVENT AND OR DETER THE SPREAD OF A HOUSE FIRE.

AND JUST AS AN ADDED OBSERVATION, WE WERE TOLD BY A FIRE CAPTAIN THAT IF OUR HOME HAD NOT HAD THE CONCRETE BASED SHINGLES, MANY MORE HOMES WOULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGED/DESTROYED THAT DAY.

I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CHIMNEYS I WAS, BUT I JUST BEG YOU TO PLEASE ALLOW OUR REQUEST TO PLACE HARDIE BOARD SIDING ON THE TWO SIDES, THE REAR AND THE REAR OF OUR HOME AND TO REMOVE THE CHIMNEYS.

AND THE ONLY REASON WE WANT TO REMOVE THE CHIMNEYS IS THE LESS OPENINGS IN A ROOF, THE LESS LEAKS.

AND ESPECIALLY WITH HURRICANE SEASON COMING UP, AND NOW THAT THOSE CHIMNEYS AREN'T SUPPORTED BY ANYTHING UNDERNEATH THEM, THEY'RE JUST WAITING TO BE BLOWN OVER. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO? OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COME ON UP AND SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

THANKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS. I'M THE CONTRACTOR, ALEX GONZALEZ.

I RESIDE IN GALVESTON. I'VE BEEN A CONTRACTOR HERE FOR MANY YEARS, RESTORING OLD STRUCTURES.

THIS ONE HIT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO ME BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT WAS ON FIRE THAT ONE DAY WHEN I SAW IT, AND I KNEW IT WAS BAD BECAUSE THE AREA WAS COMING FROM PRESTIGIOUS 24TH STREET THAT WE ALL LOVE.

SO I'M KIND OF HONORED TO BE WORKING ON. I'M GLAD THE MCCRACKENS HAD CALLED ME TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THEM OUT WITH IT. I DO AGREE WITH THE HARDIE SIDING FIRE RATED.

YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT FROM EITHER SIDE, SO IT MAKES PERFECTLY GOOD SENSE.

NOW, THE CHIMNEYS, WHICH WASN'T MENTIONED IS.

I THINK SINCE WE'VE DEMOED, WE'VE NOTICED THAT THE BRICK IS STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER MID BETWEEN THE ROOF LINE AND THE BOTTOM FLOOR OR THE FIRST FLOOR.

SO ALL THE MORTAR JOINTS ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED.

SO THE BRICK IS STACKING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

SO THE COST TO TRY TO RESTRUCTURE THIS THING IS PROBABLY, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.

IT COULDN'T BE DONE. SO STRUCTURALLY, IT'S NOT SAFE.

WE ALSO WORRY ABOUT TIPPING OVER WHILE IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND HURTING SOMEONE.

SO I RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALLOW THEM TO PUT THE HARDIE SIDING AND REMOVE THE CHIMNEYS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COME ON UP. SIGN IN FOR US.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS NOEL SPENCER AND I LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM THE MCCRACKENS, AND I WAS THERE THE DAY OF THE FIRE AND A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT HOW CLOSE THE HOUSES WERE AND HOW THE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT THE FIRE SPREADING.

WHAT HAROLD DID NOT SAY TOO WAS THAT THEY'VE RESTORED SEVERAL HISTORIC HOMES HERE IN GALVESTON, SO THEY WOULD NOT BE IN HERE ASKING FOR THESE CHANGES IF IT WASN'T NECESSARY.

THEY RESPECT HISTORIC PROPERTY AND THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN IT AS BEST THEY CAN.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THE PRACTICALITIES WITH SOME LIMITATIONS OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE RECENT FIRE.

I DRIVE BY THAT HOUSE OR DOWN THAT BLOCK EVERY DAY.

I JUST LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, AND THAT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE INTEGRITY OF THE HOUSE AND THE HISTORIC VALUE.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU ALL SUPPORT THE MCCRACKENS IN THEIR REQUEST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? COME ON UP, PLEASE.

IF YOU COULD SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.

MY NAME IS PETER OXMAN, THIS IS MY WIFE, SANDRA.

WE ARE ALSO RESIDENTS OF 24TH STREET. WE REDID THE HOUSES AT 1318 AND 1314 24TH STREET, WHICH ARE ACROSS THE

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STREET AND DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE THEN SOLD THOSE AND WE BOUGHT A HOUSE ON THE 1600 BLOCK OF 24TH STREET.

WE WERE THERE THAT DAY. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT HAROLD MCCRACKEN WAS ADVISED TO EVACUATE HIS HOME AS THE FIRE STARTED. HE IMMEDIATELY DID THAT.

HIS WIFE, DEBORAH, WAS AT THE STORE AT THE TIME.

AS HAROLD GRABBED HIS IMMEDIATE BELONGINGS AND RAN OUT THE BACK OF HIS HOUSE, HE HEARD THE NEIGHBORS YELLING HELP US, HELP US! AND HE SPENT THE NEXT HOUR OR SO TRYING TO RESCUE THE TWO PEOPLE AT THE BALL MANSION.

AND IN DOING SO, HE GAVE UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AROUND THE FRONT AND PLEAD WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS TO PUT WATER ON HIS HOME, WHICH HAD ALREADY CAUGHT FIRE AS WELL. I THINK HAD THE FIREFIGHTERS RESPONDED IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE WAY RATHER THAN POURING WATER JUST ON THE BALL MANSION, THE FIRE DAMAGE TO HAROLD'S HOUSE WOULD HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY LESS.

BUT THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE FORUM TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT.

I JUST BRING THAT UP TO MENTION THAT HAROLD WAS, TO THE REST OF US, A HERO THAT DAY, AND SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT.

IN TERMS OF THE REQUESTED USE OF HARDIE BOARD, WE HAVE USED HARDIE BOARD WITH THIS COMMISSION'S PERMISSION ON OTHER PROPERTIES. IT IS A FABULOUS MATERIAL BECAUSE IT IS MORE DURABLE AND MORE FIRE RESISTANT THAN WOOD SHINGLE WITH WOOD SIDING. IT ALSO HAS PROPERTIES THAT WILL ALLOW IT TO BE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM THE ORIGINAL.

AND I THINK HISTORIC STANDARDS AND REPLACEMENT MATERIALS, THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT GO INTO THAT SHOULD BE EVALUATED REPEATEDLY OVER TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS BEING PRESERVED IS CAPABLE OF WITHSTANDING THE TEST OF TIME. MANY OF THE MATERIALS ORIGINALLY USED ARE NOT REPLICABLE TODAY.

YOU CANNOT GET THE SAME WOOD THAT WAS USED IN THESE HOMES.

AND SO TO HAVE A FLAT OUT REQUIREMENT TO USE THE MODERN ITERATIONS OF OLD MATERIALS, RATHER THAN NEWER VARIATIONS AND NEW MATERIALS THAT, WHEN PAINTED, WILL LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME, I THINK IS IS MISPLACED AND NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED.

SO WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE REQUEST ON THE HARDIE PLANK IN TERMS OF THE CHIMNEYS, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN A CHIMNEY THAT HAS LOST ALL OF ITS MORTAR, YET STANDS, YOU WONDER HOW IT COULD POSSIBLY DO THAT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE? COME ON UP. I'LL BE QUICK, I HAVE A PICKLEBALL MATCH TO GET TO HERE. AS I'M WRITING, I JUST WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT THE MCCRACKENS WITH THEIR REQUEST. THEY'VE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS OF THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, AND THEY´RE ACTIVE MEMBERS IN THE SILK STOCKING DISTRICT.

IT WAS A TERRIBLE EVENT. I THINK THIS IS ECONOMICAL.

I THINK IT'S FEASIBLE. I THINK IT'S LESS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT WHAT, A FIVE FOOT BUILD LINE.

SO WE'RE NOT EVEN. SO I MEAN, IT'S NOT AS VISIBLE AS YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE.

SO I JUST THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE FIT FOR THIS SITUATION, THE TIME, THE ECONOMY.

AND I THINK IT'S STILL A GOOD, EFFECTIVE HISTORICAL LOOK THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.

AND LIKE WE SAY, WE ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE A GALVESTON'S RESILIENT AND WE ALWAYS WANT TO IMPROVE THAT.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING THAT WE COULD DO FOR THE MCCRACKENS, SO THANK YOU. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR US, PLEASE? FOR THE RECORD? WILLIAM SCHUSTER. THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO SAY, SIR, WITH THE GOOD HAIR, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME? THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION.

THE FIRE MARSHAL, CHRIS HARRISON, IS IN THE AUDIENCE. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTED TO SPEAK OR HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, SO JUST KNOW HE'S AVAILABLE. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? NOT YET? OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

CASE 25LC-025 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, OMITTING SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE.

AND I THINK ACCORDING TO THE HISTORIC STANDARDS, IT MEETS THE FACTORS, THE DURABILITY, THE LOCATION YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

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IT'S GOING TO LOOK JUST LIKE WOOD. AND IT IS NONCOMBUSTIBLE AND SAFER ALL AROUND.

SO THAT'S IT. MY MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, OMITTING SPECIFIC CONDITION 1A.

I SECOND. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO? OKAY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 7. B., A REQUEST FOR DESIGNATION AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK (1211 21ST STREET).

ALL RIGHT, YEAH. STATED REQUEST FOR DESIGNATION OF GALVESTON LANDMARK.

IT'S A UNUSUAL, MORE MODERNIST TYPE ARCHITECTURE.

33 PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT, AND NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION ABOVE ADDRESS AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK.

THIS IS THE GULF BREEZE APARTMENTS, CONSTRUCTED IN 1969 BY THE GALVESTON HOUSING AUTHORITY.

THIS IS A 11 STORY, 200 UNIT PUBLIC HOUSING STRUCTURE.

MARKS A PIVOTAL MOMENT IN THE CITY'S APPROACH TO PUBLIC HOUSING.

INSPIRED BY SAN ANTONIO'S VICTORIA PLAZA, THE GULF BREEZE APARTMENTS WERE DESIGNED BY ARCHITECT RAYMOND RAPP JR.

ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE, RAPP WAS BORN IN 1920, THE YEAR BEFORE HIS FAMILY MOVED TO GALVESTON.

HIS FATHER WAS ALSO A ARCHITECT. GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE.

IN 1947, RAPP JR. J OINED HIS FATHER'S FIRM AS APPRENTICE AND BECAME MANAGER IN 1959 ON HIS FATHER'S DEATH.

IN 1960, RAPP EARNED HIS ARCHITECTURAL LICENSE, BECAME THE FIRM'S SOLE OWNER.

IN ADDITION TO THE GULF BREEZE APARTMENTS AND HIS OWN HOME AT 1009 HARBOR VIEW DRIVE.

BY 1982, HE WAS INVOLVED IN OVER A THOUSAND PROJECTS ACROSS THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA.

HE PASSED AWAY IN 2004 AT THE AGE OF 84. HE DESIGNED PRIMARILY IN POSTWAR MODERN STYLES, CONTEMPORARY RANCH, AND LATER IN HIS CAREER, EVEN BRUTALISM. THE GULF BREEZE APARTMENTS TAKE DESIGN CUES NOT ONLY FROM POSTWAR MODERN STYLING, BUT ALSO FROM THE VICTORIA PLAZA APARTMENTS. THESE STRUCTURES MARKED A DEPARTURE FROM PREVIOUS LOW RISE HOUSING PROJECTS BY UTILIZING A MORE VERTICAL FORM, AND IN OUR CASE, THE LOCAL BUILDING WAS DESIGNED WITH TWO WINGS, 90 DEGREE ANGLE, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ALL UNITS WITH A VIEW OF THE CITY AND EXPOSURE TO THE NATURAL WORLD. THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES FOR NEW LANDMARKS.

HOWEVER, THE GALVESTON HOUSING AUTHORITY IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND DOES NOT PAY PROPERTY TAXES AND SO CANNOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HEAR THIS REQUEST AT THE JUNE 3RD MEETING.

CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION REGARDING THIS REQUEST, AND THEY WILL HEAR AT THE JUNE 26TH, 2025 MEETING. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH STANDARD CONDITION 1 IN THE STAFF REPORT AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE.

SO HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOOKING GENERALLY SOUTH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND HERE WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH AND WEST.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU, DANIEL.

DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO? OKAY. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25LC-023.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS TODAY? HI.

HI. THANK YOU ALL. THIS TIME, I'M NOT HERE AS AN ARCHITECT, BUT AS A GALVESTON HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD COMMISSIONER.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THE BOARD HAS DISCUSSED A COUPLE TIMES AND HAVE A RESOLUTION FROM THE BOARD THAT WE WANTED TO PUSH FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE OF ITS CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, ITS COMMUNITY IMPORTANCE, AND TO SOME DEGREE, ITS ARCHITECTURE.

BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT IN 1969, IT'S TRULY A MID-CENTURY DESIGN, AND IT HASN'T BEEN SCREWED UP.

SO WE WANT TO PROTECT IT. IT'S OUR ONLY HISTORIC PROPERTY AT THE GHA.

AND SO WE WANTED TO PROTECT IT AND VALUE IT. IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE BUILDING, BUT IT'S ALSO BEEN A COMMUNITY CENTER BEFORE.

I'VE HEARD OF PEOPLE GOING THERE TO VOTE AT ONE TIME.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A HOUSING PROJECT, IT'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST EVERYONE IN GALVESTON WOULD RECOGNIZE IF YOU'D BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, FOR REALLY ANY AMOUNT OF TIME. SO WE JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH BUILDING TO ALLOW FOR THE LANDMARK REVIEW TO CHANGES AND ALSO PROTECT IT JUST IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO SAY IT IS A REALLY COOL BUILDING AND WE DON'T HAVE MUCH MID-CENTURY HERE.

SO GOOD ON Y'ALL. THANKS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

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HI. IF YOU COULD SIGN IN FOR US AND STATE YOUR NAME.

AUTHORITY. I THINK BRAX HIT ON SOME OF THE REASONS THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD DECIDED WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SEEKING LANDMARK DESIGNATION, BUT I WOULD ADD MAYBE A COUPLE MORE.

I THINK FAR TOO OFTEN IN THIS TOWN OR IN GENERAL, PEOPLE THINK OF PUBLIC HOUSING AS, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND WE DON'T KNOW THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND WE DON'T VALUE THEM.

AND THINGS CAN'T BE PRETTY OR CAN'T BE A LANDMARK IF THEY'RE INVOLVED IN PUBLIC HOUSING.

AND I THINK THIS BOARD IS TRYING TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT THIS BUILDING IS IMPORTANT.

THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS BUILDING ARE IMPORTANT.

AND WE THINK A LANDMARK DESIGNATION BY THE CITY OF GALVESTON WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO? OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 25LC-023.

NO? OKAY, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION.

OKAY, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 25LC-023 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SHARON SECONDS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO? OKAY. WE'LL TAKE IT TO A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR? THANK YOU, THE MOTION PASSES. NOW, ITEM 8. DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS, WHICH INCLUDE DIRECTING STAFF TO DEVELOP A WINDOW POLICY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. WE DISCUSSED THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND THIS IS REALLY A FORMALITY.

SO ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS A MOTION WITH THAT WORDING, DIRECT STAFF TO DEVELOP A WINDOW POLICY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IT WAS ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO WITH THE POLICY.

WE NEED THIS STEP TO OFFICIALLY DIRECT US TO DO IT.

AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH A CASE AND PRESENT YOU WITH THE POLICY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO? IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO? ARE PEOPLE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON THIS? IT'S AN ACTION ITEM.

SO NO PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY, NEVER MIND. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? GO AHEAD. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO DEVELOP A WINDOW POLICY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? JANE SECONDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR? OKAY. IT IS 5:08. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS JUNE 16TH? NO? OKAY. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

OH, WHAT HAPPENED? I JUST WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO .

WE HAVE A NEW STAFF MEMBER HERE IN THE DEPARTMENT.

TERESA EVANS IS HER NAME, OFF TO MY RIGHT. HI.

SHE'S BASICALLY THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO REPLACE ME.

I'M LEAVING HERE IN A FEW MONTHS, AND SHE'S BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD TO KIND OF SHADOW AND GO THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE GO THROUGH SO THAT SHE CAN BE UP TO SPEED FULLY.

SO WELCOME, THERESA, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL FIND GREAT THINGS WITH HER.

THANK YOU. WE'LL DEFINITELY MISS YOU, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO GET TO KNOW TERESA.

ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADD FOR THE DISCUSSION AGENDA.

IT´S 5:09, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. A LONG ONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.