Apr 22, 2025 Planning Commission

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

[1. Call Meeting to Order]

WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS MISSING, BUT WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'RE GOOD THERE.

ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 8TH REGULAR MEETING.

[4. Approval of Minutes 4.A April 8, 2025 – Regular Meeting]

[5. Public Comment]

STATE YOUR NAME. YOU GOT THREE MINUTES, SIR. SIGN IN.

IT WON'T TAKE BUT A MINUTE. MY NAME IS BRAD EASTERWOOD, 1 23 25TH STREET. AND I COULD SAY THIS WHEN I MAKE A PRESENTATION LATER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND STAFF AND GHF FOR HOLDING A MEETING ABOUT FIRE SAFETY AND HISTORIC PROPERTIES. WHICH WILL BE TOMORROW NIGHT AT 5:30.

OH, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. YEAH. THANKS. SO, YEAH, WE'RE PARTNERING WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR DEPARTMENT AND THE GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION TO HOLD TWO SESSIONS ON FIRE SAFETY SPECIFIC TO HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

BECAUSE OF THE TERRIBLE FIRES THAT HAPPENED. OH.

ANTHONY'S NEIGHBORHOOD JUST LAST WEEKEND. SO, IT'LL BE THERE'LL BE TWO SESSIONS TOMORROW, 05:30. AND THEN NEXT WEDNESDAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN AFTERNOON ONE.

SO THAT'LL BE AT NOON. AND THEY'LL BOTH BE HELD IN THE WORTHAM AUDITORIUM AT THE ROSENBERG LIBRARY.

SO, CHRIS HARRISON, THE FIRE MARSHAL, HE'LL BE THERE. HE'LL BE THE MAIN SPEAKER, AND HE'LL GO OVER FIRE SAFETY WITH A FOCUS ON PREVENTION AND FIRE SPRINKLERS.

PERFECT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEW BUSINESS.

[6.A.1. 24BF-033 (4215 Buccaneer Blvd) Request for Beachfront Construction Certificate and Dune Protection Permit as well as an exemption to construct a single-family dwelling with gravel/limestone slab and driveway. Property is legally described as Abstract 121, Page 45, Lot 11, Block 6, Pirates Beach Section 2, a subdivision in the City and County of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Mike Murray Property Owner: Brad and Jenney Burkholder]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THIS IS AN EXEMPTION AND APPROVAL REQUEST FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH GRAVEL, LIMESTONE SLAB AND DRIVEWAY. THE ADDRESS IS 4215 BUCCANEER BOULEVARD.

THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS ABSTRACT 121, PAGE 45, LOT 11, BLOCK 6 PIRATE'S BEACH SECTION 2, A SUBDIVISION LOCATED IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON OF CITY IN THE COUNTY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE PIRATE'S BEACH SUBDIVISION.

SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST, SOUTH AND WEST OF THE PROPERTY.

ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY, THE AREA IS ERODING AT A RATE OF FIVE FEET PER YEAR.

STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR YOUR VIEWING.

FIRST, WE HAVE THE FARM AND BEG MAP SHOWING THE DISTANCE OF THE STRUCTURE FROM THE BEACH AND ITS POSITION RELATIVE TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE PROPERTY SURVEY. ZOOMED IN ON THE RIGHT TO SHOW THE DISTANCE FROM THE LINE OF VEGETATION TO 71FT, THERE IS NO DUNE COMPLEX LOCATED AT THIS AT THIS LOCATION.

ON THE FOLLOWING FIVE SLIDES WE HAVE PROPOSED PROJECT DRAWINGS.

I ONLY HAVE FIVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. LOOKING NORTH.

LOOKING EAST. LOOKING SOUTH. LOOKING WEST. AND THEN FROM THE BEACH LINE OF VEGETATION LOOKING BACK TOWARD THE PROPERTY WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT STRUCTURE.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF REPORT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, KYLE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I GOT ONE OKAY. YES, SIR. SO, THIS IS OH, I'M SORRY.

SO, THIS IS IN THIS AREA BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THESE BEFORE WHERE THERE'S.

SINCE THERE'S NO DUNE COMPLEX, THERE. OUR DUNE CONSERVATION AREA IS 200FT FROM THE LINE OF VEGETATION.

OKAY. SO, SINCE THERE'S NOT A DUNE, IT'S 200FT FROM LINE OF VEGETATION.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR AN EXEMPTION TO THIS.

SO, ANY CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE DUNE CONSERVATION AREA, IT REQUIRES AN EXEMPTION.

SO, WHEN THIS FIRST CAME IN TO US LAST YEAR, THE SURVEYORS HAD DUNE OUTLINED ON IT.

WE SENT THE FIRST PACKET TO GLO FOR THEIR REVIEW.

THEY SAID THERE'S NOT A DUNE THERE, SO SEND IT BACK TO US.

WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT. THEY HAD FIBER CREEK DRIVEWAYS.

THEY HAD ENCLOSURES UNDERNEATH IT. SO, WORKING WITH THEM IN THE LAST ALMOST A YEAR ON THIS THEY'VE REDUCED EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH IT TO BASICALLY

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THAT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE STANDARDS THAT WE SET UP FOR EXEMPTIONS.

SO, THERE WAS A LOT OF SCALE BACK ON, ON THIS, ON THE PROPERTY.

SO, IS THIS WHERE. AND MAYBE I'M GETTING THIS A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD SOMETHING OVER THERE WHERE WE ACTUALLY MEASURED FROM THE WATER FROM THE LOW MEAN LOW TIDE MARK OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO THERE WAS NO VEGETATION THERE.

SO, THERE IS A LINE OF VEGETATION ON THIS. THERE'S JUST NO DUNE.

YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT WAS THAT PHOTO WAS TAKEN AFTER THE STORM, YOU KNOW, OKAY, THESE THINGS CAME IN.

I MEAN, SO THAT PHOTO WAS KIND OF MISLEADING, BUT WHEN THEY WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION, THERE WAS A LINE OF VEGETATION THERE. BUT THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN AFTER HURRICANE BERYL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UNDERSTAND? ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, SIR. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.

YOU, IF YOU WOULD YES, SIR PLEASE SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.

I'M BRAD BURKHOLDER. I AM THE LANDOWNER AND OWNER OF THE HOUSE.

THAT'S HOPEFULLY GOING TO GET BUILT. THE ONE THING AND I KNOW KYLE HAS MENTIONED TO YOU IS WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS.

I'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR PROBABLY THREE YEARS WHEN BRANDON HILL WAS WITH Y'ALL.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT I'M RUNNING UP AGAINST RIGHT NOW IS THIS GRAVEL THAT'S GOING UNDERNEATH.

AND KYLE'S BEEN WORKING WITH ME. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S PIRATES HOA IS RIGHT NOW SAYING THEY'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH GRAVEL BECAUSE THEY CANNOT HAVE GRAVEL DRIVEWAYS.

AND SO, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE RUB BETWEEN THE CITY AND PIRATES HOA.

AND SO, THEY'RE HOLDING ME UP. Y'ALL CAN. I MEAN, IF WE GO THROUGH THIS APPROVAL, WE'LL GET IT APPROVED AND ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT THERE'S A BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE HOA, AND THEY'RE NOT APPROVING ME YET AND I DON'T AND THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHERE DO WE GO WITH THIS. AND SO, LOOK, WE CAN'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS HOA'S ARE NOT IN OUR WHEELHOUSE WHATSOEVER.

HOWEVER, HE'S THE GUY. YEAH. SO, I'M HE'S TRYING TO HELP YOU WHAT HE CAN.

YEAH. AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU. THESE ARE A CHALLENGE, AS YOU WELL KNOW.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN IT'S BEEN. YOU COULD SPEAK VERY LOUDLY AND SAY THIS I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR THREE YEARS SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS.

OH, IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS. A FULL THREE. IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE, AND WE KNOW IT.

AND IT'S A CHALLENGE FOR US AS WELL. SO YEAH.

GOOD LUCK. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR . OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO COMMISSION FOR ACTION.

SURE. I WAS GOING THROUGH THE GLO LETTER, AND THAT FIRST BULLET POINT KIND OF THREW ME FOR A LOOP.

IT SAYS THAT GRAVEL AND CRUSHED LIMESTONE MAY BE USED TO CONSTRUCT DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING AREAS WITHIN 50FT LANDWARD OF THE LINE OF VEGETATION TO THE DUNE PROTECTION LINE.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES GRAVEL OR CRUSHED LIMESTONE BENEATH THE HABITABLE STRUCTURE AND BACK PORCH, AREAS THAT DO NOT APPEAR TO BE PART OF THE DRIVEWAY AND PARKING AREA.

SO, IS THAT SAYING IT'S OKAY OR NOT OKAY? SO, WE'VE BEEN WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH GLO ON THEIR INTERPRETATION OF OUR EXEMPTIONS AND HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT EXEMPTIONS.

SO RIGHT NOW, THERE'S SOME THEY'RE SAYING THAT THESE EXEMPTIONS WE SHOULD THE CITY SHOULD HAVE EXEMPTED LIKE ENTIRE AREAS FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

SO, THERE'S KIND OF THAT THAT DISCONNECT. SO, BUT WE HAVE WE SEND THESE UP TO GLO WE SAY THIS MEETS THIS THIS MEETS THAT.

SO, WE SAY IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR PLAN. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT WE CANNOT.

AND WHAT THEY'RE REFERENCING THERE IS SAYING FROM A DUNE, WITHIN A DUNE AREA, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE YOU CAN'T BE LIKE MORE THAN 25FT FROM A DUNE, BUT THERE'S NOT A DUNE THERE. SO, WE'RE SAYING IT'S WITHIN 200FT, BUT WE CAN ALLOW THAT IT'S ON THE SECOND ROW OF A HOUSE THAT WE'RE DOING THE EXEMPTIONS.

SO, WE'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT SAYING, NO, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IDENTIFIED ENTIRE PROPERTIES.

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SO, IT IS IT DOES MEET OUR WE WORKED WITH HIM TO REDUCE IT FROM FIBER CREEK AND ENCLOSURES AND ALL OF THAT TO MEET OUR EXEMPTION.

AND SO WHEN IT MENTIONS 31 OF THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, THAT SECTION 15.6F THAT THAT'S CITY OF GALVESTON OR TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. WELL, SO YOU HAVE THE TAC, THEN WE HAVE OUR PLAN.

OUR PLAN IS A CERTIFIED PLAN. SO, IT ALLOWS VARIANCES TO THE TAC.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE IF IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED UNDER OUR PLAN WE ALWAYS REFER BACK TO TAC.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THAT'S NOT YOU KNOW, THAT HAS BEEN CERTIFIED, IT'S A DIFFERENCE FROM TAC.

WE GO WITH OUR PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S HOW WE'RE EVALUATING THINGS.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL ALSO ADD THAT THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE USED FOR YEARS.

THIS WHOLE NOTION THAT IT SHOULD BE SOME OTHER METHODOLOGY WAS A SURPRISE TO US.

WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED FOR MANY, MANY APPLICATIONS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE CITY'S WHEELHOUSE, THE EXEMPTIONS.

I'LL ALSO ADD THAT MR. BURKHOLDER HAS BEEN IN THE UNENVIABLE POSITION OF PUTTING HIS APPLICATION IN UNDER WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE BEFORE THOSE STORMS IN 2022, I THINK ALL, YOU KNOW, WASH THESE DUNES OUT. SO, THE RULES CHANGED LITERALLY UNDER HIM.

AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORK WITHIN THE GLO RULES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING SOME PUSHBACK ON THAT, AND IT'S JUST, FRANKLY, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT FAIR TO MR. BURKHOLDER. OR THE CITY TO CHANGE UP ON US LIKE THIS.

SO, WE ARE WE [INAUDIBLE] OUR STATEMENT IS THAT THIS COMPLIES, PER THE RULES OF OUR ORDINANCES AND OUR DUNE PROTECTION AND BEACH ACCESS PLANS. UNDERSTOOD. ALL RIGHT.

WE NEED A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE 24BF - 033, WITH CONDITIONS AS PROPOSED BY STAFF. I'LL SECOND.

SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE 24BF-033 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.

THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS 24BF-033.

BEST OF LUCK TO YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT MOVING ON

[6.B.2. 25P-012 (1623 Broadway / Avenue J) Request for designation as a Galveston Landmark. The property is legally described as M.B. Menard Survey, Lot 2 Block 136, in the City and County of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Tianna Hall Property Owner: Donna Alexander]

THERE WERE 15 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, AND OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.

SO, THIS IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW SMALLER, MORE MODEST HOUSES ALONG BROADWAY, BUILT BY WIDOW REBECCA OLMSTEAD BERMAN IN 1868.

SHE WAS BORN IN OLDENBURG, GERMANY, IN 1797, BY 1824, SHE WAS MARRIED TO GEORGE LUDWIG BERMAN IN HIS HOMETOWN OF HANOVER, GERMANY. TOGETHER, THE TWO HAD FOUR DAUGHTERS AND THREE SONS.

THEY MOVED TO GALVESTON IN 1843, WHERE GEORGE WAS ONE OF THE CITY'S EARLIEST PHARMACISTS.

THEY RELOCATED TO HOUSTON BRIEFLY BY JANUARY 1867.

BERMAN, NOW A WIDOW, HAD RETURNED TO GALVESTON AND PURCHASED TWO LOTS ON BROADWAY, 1627 AND 1623, NEXT DOOR. THEY BUILT THIS PROPERTY AS A RENTAL COTTAGE, WITH THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE BEING NEXT DOOR.

IN 1912, THE BERMAN DESCENDANTS SOLD THE PROPERTIES TO C HARBOR ANDERSON.

HE DEMOLISHED THE HOUSE OF 1627 AND BUILT HIS PERSONAL RESIDENCE THERE.

THIS COTTAGE HERE HE SOLD TO ATTORNEY ROBERT G.

STREET, WHO WAS ALSO ONE OF OUR GALVESTON COUNTY JUDGES.

THIS GULF COAST STYLE COTTAGE RETAINS MUCH OF ITS HISTORIC INTEGRITY, SERVES AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE VERNACULAR STYLE.

IN 1913, JUDGE STREET REMODELED THE HOUSE, INCLUDING ADDING THE ROOF DORMERS AND ADDITIONAL BEDROOM AND BATHROOM UPSTAIRS.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS INELIGIBLE FOR THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

LANDMARK COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AT THEIR APRIL 21ST MEETING.

COUNCIL HAS FINAL DECISION, AND WE'LL HEAR THIS REQUEST AT THEIR MAY 22ND MEETING.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH STANDARD CONDITION ONE IN THE STAFF REPORT.

WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE. SO, HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND VICINITY MAP.

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THAT IS NOT, THAT IS A TYPO ON OUR BEHALF. AND STAFF APOLOGIZES.

STAFF BEING ME. WHOOPS. THIS IS CORRECT. SO, IT SHOULD BE 1623 BROADWAY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT, BY THE WAY.

THEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU DANIEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.

WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? NOPE.

ANYBODY HERE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NOPE.

SO, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.

I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE 25P-012. I'LL SECOND THAT.

SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE 25P-012.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL JUST SAY DANIEL, ONCE AGAIN THE NARRATIVE IS VERY NICE ON THIS, I LIKE THE HISTORY. SO I AM KIND OF CURIOUS, THIS HOUSE WAS THERE DURING THE STORM? I BELIEVE. SURVIVED. I BELIEVE IT WAS, YES. THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

THOSE IN FAVOR? THAT'S UNANIMOUS 25P-012 IS APPROVED.

MOVING ON 25P-013. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ME AGAIN

[6.C.3. 25P-013 (Adjacent to 711 14th Street) Request for a License to Use in order to retain existing encroachments. The property is legally described as M.B. Menard Survey, South 52 Feet of Lot 7 (7-2), Block 314, in the City and County of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Brax Easterwood Property Owner: Scott Rice, Sandbar Properties LLC.]

THIS IS A LICENSED USE REQUEST FOR BUILDING ENCROACHMENTS.

THERE WERE 26 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT. NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.

ALSO NOTE THAT CITY DEPARTMENTS AND OUTSIDE PRIVATE UTILITIES REVIEWED THIS REQUEST, AND THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS OR CONCERNS NOTED.

SO, IN THIS CASE, THIS EXISTING TWO STORY STRUCTURE WAS BUILT PRIOR TO 1900, ACCORDING TO SANBORN INSURANCE MAPS.

HOWEVER, DURING ONGOING RENOVATIONS TO THE PROPERTY ENCROACHMENTS WERE DISCOVERED.

AND THEY ARE AS FOLLOWS. EXISTING FRONT ENTRY PORCH, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE FACING 14TH STREET ENCROACHES APPROXIMATELY TWO FOOT INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE ROOF OVERHANGS, SO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS NOT QUITE THAT FAR IN.

AND THE EXISTING HOUSE ITSELF ENCROACHES APPROXIMATELY TWO FOOT TWO INCHES INTO THE MID-BLOCK ALLEY, AND AGAIN THIS INCLUDES THE ROOF OVERHANG AS WELL.

OF COURSE, A LICENSE TO USE IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO PLACING ITEMS OR RETAINING ITEMS IN THE CITY RIGHTS OF WAY.

AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ESTABLISH A PROCEDURE FOR PROCESSING LTUS, WHICH IS OF COURSE, WHY IT'S HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN THE EASTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.

LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, ONE THROUGH TWO AND STANDARD CONDITIONS THREE THROUGH EIGHT.

AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE. WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOOKING WEST FROM 14TH STREET IN A VICINITY MAP.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND HERE WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE PROJECT ARCHITECT SHOWING THE WHERE THE TWO LOCATIONS ARE IN RELATION TO THE STREETS. THEY'RE IN THE FRONT AND THEN ALONG THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND ONCE AGAIN, ELEVATION DRAWINGS PROVIDED BY THE PROJECT ARCHITECT, SHOWING HOW THOSE ENCROACHMENTS INTERACT WITH THE PROPERTY LINES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.

TO THE EAST. TO THE SOUTH. A VIEW DOWN THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU DANIEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU TO THE BOARD AND FOR STAFF. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

AND, YES, WE WERE GRANTED A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL YESTERDAY AT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION FOR THIS.

IT'S AN EXISTING CONDITION, AS DANIEL EXPLAINED.

AND THE HOUSE ITSELF, THE WALL OF THE HOUSE ITSELF BASICALLY ENCROACHES INTO THE ALLEY ABOUT 14IN.

WHICH I COME TO LEARN THAT ANYTHING LESS THAN OR ANYTHING OVER 12IN NEEDS TO COME TO THE BOARD.

SO, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN ANOTHER CASE ON THIS HOUSE, AND YOU MAY SEE ANOTHER ONE AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME I TURN IN AN APPLICATION THAT WE NEED TO COME GET AN APPROVAL.

WHICH IS FINE, WE'RE TOTALLY FINE BECAUSE BASICALLY THE OWNER OF THIS, OF THIS HOUSE AND THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH AND THE ONE TO THE NORTHWEST

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THANK YOU. YEAH. ANYWAY, IT'S ALL EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU, SIR . THANK YOU. ANYBODY HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NOPE. SO, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK.

YES, SIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO, I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS THE BUILDING AS IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO, YOU NEED A PERMIT FOR HOW THE BUILDING ALREADY EXISTS.

IS THAT ESSENTIALLY A LICENSE TO USE BASICALLY, ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE STRUCTURE IS APPROVED TO BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND PUTS SOME LIABILITY ONTO THE OWNER FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS.

THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF A LTU IN THIS CASE.

BUT YEAH, THIS HAS BEEN HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, SINCE AT LEAST 1900.

OKAY. AND SO, IF WE WERE TO SAY NO, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU MOVE THE WHOLE HOUSE? I MIGHT DEFER THAT QUESTION TO LEGAL.

YOU KNOW, AND HELP ME ON THIS, DONNA, BUT IT IS JUST A LICENSE TO USE.

SO, IF THERE WAS SOME CIRCUMSTANCE THAT REQUIRED THE CITY AND THEY NEEDED THAT PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE CITY COULD SEND THEM NOTICE AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE THE STRUCTURE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. SO, BUT NOT LIKELY. BUT YEAH, BUT MAYBE THAT HELPS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THAT I MEAN WE COULD NOT GRANT THAT.

BUT IN THEORY, YEAH. JUST YEAH, PURELY HYPOTHETICAL SORT OF A QUESTION OF DEGREES.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S 14IN OVER, WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO NEED THAT SPACE AS A, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL AREA THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT BE 5 OR 6 OR 7 FEET IN, RIGHT, OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE, WHERE IT ACTUALLY MAY BE SOMETHING WE DON'T RECOMMEND.

YEAH. OR YOU KNOW, SO IT'S GOT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOT, IT'S VARYING DEGREES.

OKAY. I JUST I WAS JUST INTERESTED BECAUSE IT'S, I KNOW AT THE, AT THE WORKSHOP WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHAT'S COMING IN FRONT OF US AND YOU KNOW, WHY AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF A FUNNY CASE WHERE I GET IT, YOU KNOW, AND I OBVIOUSLY IT COMES IN FRONT OF US FOR A GOOD REASON.

BUT SURVEYING BACK THEN WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCIENCE THAN IT IS NOW.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

MIC] SO, A LICENSE TO USE IS FOR THE CURRENT STRUCTURE. IT'S NOT FOR ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES OR I MEAN SO WE'RE JUST GIVING IT FOR WHAT'S THERE NOW.

IT'S LITERALLY THERE NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE NEED A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 25P-013.

I'LL SECOND WITH A SECOND. AND ANY DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS 25P-013 IS APPROVED. 25P-014.

[6.D.4. 25P-014 (1802, 1902 and 1920 Harborside) Request for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Overlay District for a “Parking Lot, Commercial Surface Parking Area. Property is legally described as M.B. Menard Survey; Lots 8-11, Block 738; Lots 12-14 (12-0), Block 738 and Lots 8-10, Block 739, and Portion of Adjacent 19th Street; and Lots 11-14, Block 739; in the City and County of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Shae Jobe Property Owner: Harbor Properties, Inc. ]

STAFF IS REQUESTING DEFERRAL OF THIS REQUEST TO THE MAY 6TH, 2025 MEETING IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

THIS IS THE FIRST REQUEST FOR DEFERRAL AND THERE ARE NO COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST.

STAFF'S REPORT. VERY GOOD. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER.

OH, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. THEN WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 25P-014.

ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? NOPE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER 25P-014, WHAT'S THAT DATE AGAIN? TILL MAY 6TH. SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DEFER.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.

THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THE MOTION TO DEFER IS APPROVED.

MOVING ON 7A. OUR FAVORITE SUBJECT. SO, AT THE LAST MEETING, STAFF WAS VERY AMBITIOUS AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE

[7.A Discussion of Alley Access Lots (Staff)]

BUT COOLER HEADS PREVAILED AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ON MAY 6TH.

SO, WE JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT. AND THEN YOU KNOW, I HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF CONCERNS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS ABOUT ALLEY ACCESS LOTS THAT WE

[7.B Discussion of May 6, 2025, Workshop (Staff)]

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GEOGRAPHIC AREAS WHERE IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE VERSUS WHERE IT MIGHT NOT BE APPROPRIATE.

ACCESS ISSUES LIKE UTILITY ACCESS, VEHICULAR ACCESS, PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

SO, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S ON THE LIST, LET'S GET IT ON THE LIST NOW SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT.

WELL, WE COULD ADD ENCROACHMENTS INTO THE 20 FOOT TOM, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU TO REPEAT THAT FIRST ONE, I MISSED IT.

THE CODE CONFLICT. CODE CONFLICT. THERE'S A SECTION OF THE CODE THAT SAYS ONE THING, AND A SECTION OF CODE THAT SAYS OTHER THINGS, AND YOU CAN INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLARIFIED. THANK YOU.

I KNOW WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, ABOUT NOT ALL ALLEYS ARE CREATED EQUAL.

IT MAY BE ESTABLISHING SOME PARAMETERS FOR WHAT IS A WHEN IS ALLEY ACCESS APPROPRIATE AND WHEN IT'S NOT FOR SAFETY REASONS AND ALL OTHER REASONS.

SO MAYBE MINIMUM STANDARDS TO GRANT ALLEY ACCESS ONLY.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS? I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL IS TO JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE DO'S AND DON'TS? HOW CAN HE GET IN AND OUT? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP. IS IT? I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED HIM TO SHOW UP HERE, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF HE COULD MAYBE.

ANY YOU GUYS THINK YOU'D HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WOULD HEAR SOME? LIKE TO HEAR SOME COMMENTS FROM HIM. IF IT'D BE POSSIBLE IF HE COULD JOIN US, YOU KNOW, WITH ZOOM OR WHATEVER.

AND JUST Y'ALL ARE FIXING TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, PROBABLY TOMORROW.

YEAH. THE FIRE MARSHAL IS CHRIS HARRISON. HE'S ALWAYS HAPPY TO ATTEND MEETINGS.

HE ATTENDED THE LAMBERT COMMISSION MEETING YESTERDAY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THEM ABOUT THE FIRE.

SO, YES, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT HE CAN IF HE IF HE'S AVAILABLE.

IF HE'S AVAILABLE. I'LL ASK HIM TO COME. IT WOULD JUST I THINK HE COULD ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS FOR US THAT COULD POSSIBLY COME UP OR JUST PUT SOME QUESTIONS TO BED, SO WE KNOW, HEY, I NEED THIS TO GET IN HERE TO DO WHATEVER.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? WE'VE ASKED WE CAN ASK WE'VE ASKED FOR A REPORT ON THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS IN ALLEYS.

SO, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE FIRE MARSHAL AND POSSIBLY SOMEONE FROM EMS GIVEN WHAT I JUST WITNESSED IN THE SILK STOCKING DISTRICT FIRE, THERE WAS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND OUR HOUSE, AND THE ALLEY WAS FILLED WITH EVERY KIND OF PERSONNEL.

THE FIRE TRUCK FIT. BUT THERE WAS A FIRE TRUCK.

THERE WAS A RELIANT. THERE WAS EMS IN THE ALLEY.

AND WITH ALL THOSE VEHICLES IN THERE, IT'S TIGHT.

SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE AS MANY OF THESE TYPES OF PROFESSIONALS IN THERE AS POSSIBLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. TRAFFIC IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

SURE. YEAH. WE CAN. WE CAN SEE IF ROB WINIECKE, WHO'S THE CITY ENGINEER, IS AVAILABLE.

THAT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE HE COULD ANSWER SOME UTILITY QUESTIONS.

HE COULD. SO IF NOT HIM ANTHONY. ANTHONY DOES MORE PERMITTING.

YOU KNOW WHO'S BACK IS ANGELO GRASSO. OH MY GOD.

I KNOW, I FIND IT A DELIGHT. YEAH. ANGELO RETIRED.

HE WAS WITH THE CITY FOR I AM NOT EXAGGERATING 40 YEARS.

AND YEAH, HE'S BACK PART TIME. OH MY GOSH. YEAH.

HAPPY TO HAVE HIM. I'M SURE HE'D SHOW UP. ALL RIGHT.

HE IS A NICE GUY. VERY NICE. ALL RIGHT.

SO, THE FIRE MARSHAL IN ATTENDANCE TO TALK ABOUT FIRE SAFETY, EMS , CHRIS IS ALSO AN EMT,

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I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER PERSON FOR THAT. AND ROB WINIECKE TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.

OF COURSE ALL DEPENDENT ON THEIR SCHEDULE. YEAH, I WAS THINKING A LOT OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE A CONSOLIDATED TYPE OF SITUATION.

YEAH. OKAY. AND SO, I MEAN, THIS IS A, THAT DOES BRING UP A GOOD POINT IN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO GET DONE IN AN HOUR.

AND I CAN SEE US TO GET TO SOME, MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN WITH THIS IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN ONE WORKSHOP.

SO JUST A THOUGHT. MAYBE WE KIND OF JUST, I'M GOING TO LET YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS, BUT MAYBE WE WORKSHOP THIS AND HAVE OUR LAUNDRY LIST OF QUESTIONS FOR THOSE GUYS.

THEN MAYBE WHEN THEY WHEN WE CAN GET THEM TO COME, OR IF WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF QUESTIONS FOR THEM WHEN WE MEET AGAIN, WHICH I KNOW WE WILL, THEY'LL HAVE SOME ANSWERS FOR US.

IN LIEU OF THEM COMING WE'RE ASKING THEM THE QUESTION, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT AND COME BACK TO US ANYWAY.

SO, YOU GOT A VALID POINT THERE, DONNA. MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE A MORE EFFICIENT APPROACH.

SO WE WOULD WE'D GET TO SPEND THE HOUR DISCUSSING IT AND HAVE OUR LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS FOR THOSE GUYS TO ADDRESS.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THAT? THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

ON THE 6TH WE COULD WORK ON QUESTIONS FOR THESE.

I MEAN, THESE FOLKS, I CAN TELL YOU I'M PRETTY SURE WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE ON THIS, AND IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN ONE WORKSHOP TO DO IT.

SO, ARE YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THAT? THAT WOULD GIVE US THE TIME, AN HOUR TO SPEND ON IT, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE OUR LAUNDRY LIST OF QUESTIONS FOR THOSE GUYS. AND WHEN WE DO IT AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE THEM COME.

AND THEN THAT WAY THAT WHEN THEY SHOW UP, THEY'LL HAVE ANSWERS FOR US.

I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER APPROACH. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WORKSHOP IT.

SO, WHAT WE'LL GET TO DO IS WE'LL GET TO SPEND THE WHOLE HOUR AMONGST OURSELVES KIND OF GOING, OKAY, THIS IS A QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL.

THIS IS A QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS GUYS OR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND WE CAN GIVE THEM SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

THAT WAY WHEN THEY COME, THEY'LL HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR US IN LIEU OF THEM COMING WHEN ASKING THEM, THEY PROBABLY KNOW, BUT I JUST AN HOUR IS NOT GOING TO BE VERY LONG TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

I CAN TELL YOU WE'LL BURN THROUGH THAT HOUR FAST.

SO I'M HEARING YOU SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT THAT WE DON'T INVITE THEM TO THAT NEXT MEETING, THE 6TH MEETING. THAT'S WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE, OR JUST PICK ONE.

OKAY. OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF TIME.

WE COULD DO THAT, TOO. YOU'RE GIVING ME HOMEWORK? I THINK WE DO. AND I HAVE A REAL GOOD IDEA WHAT MINE ARE.

Y'ALL WANT TO DO THAT INSTEAD? YOU GOOD WITH THAT, ANTHONY? YEAH, SURE. OF COURSE. OKAY. OKAY, SO THAT'S NOT A TON OF TIME.

SO LET'S SEE SO THAT'S TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY. SO, IF YOU COULD GET ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE FOR THOSE ENTITIES TO ME BY THE 29TH, AND THAT'LL GIVE THEM A WEEK TO PREPARE.

BUT WE'LL SEE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE. AND IF NOT, AT LEAST THEY CAN PROVIDE US WITH SOME ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS TOO.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I LIKE THAT. I KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE CODE CITATION OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THEY'RE BOTH IN ARTICLE 6. IF YOU GO TO ARTICLE 6X AND YOU JUST SEARCH FOR ALLEY, YOU'LL FIND THERE'S A SECTION THAT. YEAH, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE GET WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER BUSINESS? SEEING NONE. WE'LL BE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.