[1. Call Meeting To Order] [00:00:06] ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. EVERYBODY'S HERE, AND WE'VE TAKEN ROLL BY SIGNING IN. ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR OUR FEBRUARY 4TH MEETING. [4. Approval Of Minutes] ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. THIS IS THE PORTION IF YOU ARE HERE FOR A NON AGENDA ITEM AND YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, IT'S YOUR TIME TO DO SO. ANY YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THAT. LADIES GENTLEMEN. NO. ALRIGHT WE'LL CLOSE THAT AND WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. [6.A.1. 24BF-136 (Beachside Village – AP-7) Notice Of Mitigation For Disturbance Of Dunes And Dune Vegetation. Property Is Legally Described As Beachside Village Section 9 (2024) Reservation F & G, A Subdivision In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Debbie Reinhart Property Owner: Ohana Development, LLC] ITEM NUMBER 24-136. GOOD AFTERNOON, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THIS IS A NOTICE OF MITIGATION FOR DISTURBANCES OF DUNE AND DUNE VEGETATION. THE ADDRESS IS ACCESS POINT SEVEN ALONG EIGHT MILE ROAD. THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEACHSIDE VILLAGE. SECTION NINE, RESERVATION F AND G, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS. THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT THE BEACHSIDE VILLAGE SUBDIVISION. SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. A BEACH ACCESS AND EIGHT MILE ROAD ARE LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. BEACH AND DUNE SYSTEM ARE LOCATED TO THE SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY, THIS AREA IS ERODING APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET PER YEAR. STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE VIEWING. FIRST, WE HAVE A FIRM AND BEG MAP. ON THE NEXT THREE SLIDES IS THE PROPERTY SURVEY AND PROJECT DESIGNS. THIS IS A PROJECT FOR A WALKWAY FROM A PARKING AREA DOWN TO THE BEACH FOR BEACH ACCESS. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ACTUAL IMPACTS TO THE TO THE DUNE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE VEGETATED AREAS AND AREAS WHERE THERE'S NO VEGETATION. THIS WAS USED IN THE CALCULATION OF THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS. THIS WAS COORDINATED WITH THE WITH GLO ON OUR SUBMITTAL. THIS IS KIND OF SHOWING WHY FLAGS ARE SHOWING THE WALKWAY ALONG EIGHT MILE ROAD THROUGH THE DUNE AREA. NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES KIND OF SHOWING, SHOWING THE AREA THE WHITE FLAGS IS SHOWING WHERE THIS AREA WILL BE GOING. AND THIS AREA WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE THIS WALKOVER, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT FARTHER TO THE WEST WHERE YOU'D BE YOU'D BE DOING A WALKOVER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU'D ACTUALLY BE GOING THROUGH A LOT BETTER DOING, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE PILINGS OR THAT ACROSS THE DUNES. SO THIS IS ALREADY A DISTURBED AREA THAT HAS THE SAND BLOWING UP. THAT'S JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THE, OF THE AREA. THIS RIGHT HERE IS JUST A MAP REPRESENTING THE THREE STARS IS WHERE THE WHERE THE WALK PATH IS GOING TO BE. AND THEN THE STAR OVER TO THE LEFT IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE MATERIAL IS GOING TO BE MOVED TO FOR THE, FOR THE DUNE MITIGATION. AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF ACTUALLY WHERE THE DUNE MIGRATION IS GOING TO OCCUR WITHIN THE WIDE AREA IS WHERE THE WHITE FLAGGING IS, WHERE THE MATERIAL IS GOING TO BE PUT FOR THE DUNE MITIGATION. IT'S KIND OF SHOWING THAT. THAT'S JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A PUBLIC YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HEARING FOR DUNE MITIGATION AS REQUIRED UNDER THE PLAN, THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. THERE'S NO ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM. SO THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. KYLE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? GO AHEAD ANTHONY, PLEASE. SO KYLE THE PARKING THAT'S THERE I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS IN EXCHANGE FOR THE PARKING, THE NEW PARKING LOT THAT'S THERE WAS PUT IN BY THE BEACH. BEACHSIDE VILLAGE OWNERS. OKAY. IS THAT ALREADY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC? NO, IT WON'T BE. IT'S THEY'VE GOT TO GET A RIGHT OF WAY. SO, RIGHT OF WAY. PERMIT TO CONNECT THE OVERFLOW PARKING. AND THEN CONSTRUCT THIS. SO, IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE CAN'T CLOSE THE VEHICULAR RESTRICTION TO THAT ACCESS POINT UNTIL THESE ARE THESE ARE DONE. THIS WALKWAY IS CONSTRUCTED AND THE, OKAY. THE CONNECTOR TO THE OVERFLOW PARKING TO EIGHT MILE ROAD. BUT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THAT POCKET PARK IS GOING TO STILL BE OPEN. [00:05:04] YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THEN THE SECTION WHERE THOSE ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES ARE AT. HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE MODIFIED. SO PARKING SO YOU CAN GET INTO IT. WELL, THEY'RE GETTING THERE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S, THEY'RE GETTING THEY HAVE TO GET A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT FOR ALL OF IT TO CONNECT THOSE TO EIGHT MILE ROAD. EIGHT MILE ROAD OKAY. BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE THAT'S NOT PART OF THE MITIGATION HEARING HERE. THERE'S NO MITIGATION. NO, I UNDERSTAND I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHAT? BECAUSE THE PARKING SPACES LOOK GREAT. YEAH, BUT YOU CAN'T GET TO THEM. YEAH, YEAH. SO WE THEY THEY'RE GETTING THE RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO CONNECT THOSE. ANY IDEA WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR THIS? THEY'VE SUBMITTED EVERYTHING TO ENGINEERING. THEY ALSO HAD TO GET A BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION CERTIFICATE. DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT. OKAY, ONCE WE APPROVE THIS MITIGATION ONCE WE HAVE THIS HEARING, WE'LL BE ISSUING THE BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION FOR THEM TO CONNECT THAT. AND THEN ENGINEERING IS STILL REVIEWING THE PLANS THAT THEY SUBMITTED. SO HOPEFULLY SOMETIME THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK AND THEN THEY CAN GET OUT THERE AND START WORKING ON PUTTING DOWN THE CONCRETE OR WHATEVER THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT DOWN TO CONNECT THOSE PARKING SPACES TO EIGHT MILE ROAD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ONE, PLEASE. OKAY. JUST IS THERE ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE ISLAND? I THINK THERE IS. WHERE? WE HAVE THIS MAT. MOBILE MAT? YEAH, WE HAVE IT. PARK BOARD HAS SOME. AND THEN WE ALSO JUST INSTALLED SOME OUT OF POCKET PARK THREE, WHERE WE DID POCKET PARK THREE OUT THERE. WE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN BESIDE THE ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MADE A PATH THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE DUNE AND PUT DOWN MOBI MAT THROUGH THAT. YOU SAID PARK. PARK BOARD DID SOME. DID THEY HAVE SOME DOWN AT STEWART BEACH? AT STEWART BEACH? OKAY. THEY PUT OUT SOME MATS LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE ALSO AND THEN ALSO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEO HOA. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PUTTING SOME OUT AT ACCESS POINT 27 THAT THEY HAVE FROM THEIR END OF THEIR WALK OVER KIND OF FARTHER OUT TOWARD THE WATER. THANK YOU. OKAY. PLEASE GO AHEAD. HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN THE MOBILE MAC? BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT LISTEN AND DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT IS. SO MOBILE IS THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TWO DIFFERENT STYLES. YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE KIND OF HARD PLASTIC, KIND OF LIKE DIAMOND PLATED THAT COME IN 4X4 SECTIONS THAT YOU CAN PUT DOWN. AND THEN ALSO THEY HAVE LIKE SOME THAT IS MORE KIND OF FLEXIBLE, BUT IT'S TO BE PUT DOWN FOR OVER THE SAND FOR ADA ACCESSIBILITY FOR WHEELCHAIRS AND WALKING AND, AND THINGS LIKE AND GENERAL PUBLIC TO IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO WALK ON THE SAND, BUT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, MORE KIND OF GEARED TOWARD, YOU KNOW, ADA ACCESSIBILITY PATH SO PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THE, THE BEACH AND THE WATER AND BEING HIGHLY PUSHED BY GENERAL LAND OFFICE FOR ACCESSIBILITY FOR BEACH ACCESS. IS THERE A LOCATION THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO ON THE WEB TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MATS ARE, OR DO THEY HAVE TO RESERVE THEM? I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE IN THE KNOW THERE'S NO RESERVING THERE ON THE GROUND. THEY'RE THERE. THEY'RE THERE CONTINUOUSLY. WE DO NOT HAVE A MAP OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, OF HAVING SOMETHING ON OUR WEBSITE WORKING WITH YOU KNOW, THE PARK BOARD AND POSSIBLY EVEN JAMAICA BEACH AND STATE PARKS SO PEOPLE CAN GO ON AND SEE SOME TYPE OF MAP OF WHERE THESE ARE FOR, FOR ACCESSIBILITY, FOR PEOPLE COMING TO THE ISLAND. OKAY. WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BROUGHT OUT DURING BAD WEATHER. THAT'S THE THAT'S PARK BOARD VILLAGE. NO BEACHSIDE VILLAGE IN THIS. IT'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PICKING IT UP DURING WHEN WE'RE FIXING TO GET HIGH TIDES RESTRICTIONS. THE WHOEVER'S REQUESTING THE RESTRICTED VEHICLES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE PARKING AND ALL THAT. THE CITY MAINTAINS THE SIGNAGE, BUT THE WHOEVER'S REQUESTING THAT THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE. THEY STILL OWN IT. IN OTHER WORDS. OKAY, THANKS. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION A BIT, RAJAN, WE HAVE MOBI MAT OUT BY WHERE I LIVE, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, BUT BASICALLY, IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN ALMOST LIKE A PORTABLE SIDEWALK. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT A NOT NECESSARILY A HARDENED STRUCTURE. SO WHEN WE HAD THE LAST STORM, THE ONE WHERE I LIVE IF THEY WOULD HAVE HAD A WOODEN WALK OVER, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGED AND GONE. BUT INSTEAD, BASICALLY, THEY JUST REGRADED THE SAND AND PUT THE MAT BACK DOWN. SO, I'M A BIG FAN OF YOU GUYS DOING THAT. SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, KYLE. ARE WE CLOSING THE ROAD? GOING INTO THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD WILL BE OPEN. IT'LL BE BOLLARDS AT THE END. SO, THIS IS WHAT WAS IN THE AMENDMENT LAST YEAR, RIGHT. THIS IS PART OF THE AMENDMENT FOR VEHICULAR RESTRICTION AT SUNNY BEACH. [00:10:04] SO RIGHT THERE'S GOING TO BE BOLLARDS ON THE SAND WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO IN AND DROP PEOPLE OFF AND THEN GO BACK AND PARK. BUT THE ROAD IS STILL GOING TO BE OPEN. OKAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AND ONCE WE HAVE THE CONNECTION TO THE OVERFLOW PARK AND EIGHT MILE ROAD THIS CONSTRUCTED, THEN WE CAN PUT THE BOLLARDS UP AND OFFICIALLY RESTRICT THE TRAFFIC ONTO THE BEACH. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND, OH, THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED BY THE COMMISSION. YEAH. HEY, WE DID IT. I ENJOY THE QUESTIONS. I ENJOY THE QUESTIONS. GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR NEW BUSINESS. [7.A.1. 25P-002 (2114 Avenue O) Request For Designation As A Galveston Landmark. The Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, Lot 11, Southwest Block 43, Galveston Outlots, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Cindy And Jim Laufer Property Owner: Cindy And Jim Laufer] ITEM 25P-002. THIS IS AT 2114 AVENUE O. IT'S A REQUEST FOR DESIGNATION AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK. 29 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE RETURNED. THAT ONE IN FAVOR. THE LEOPOLD AND ERNESTINE YANKEE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1884. THE HOUSE WAS OWNED BY SEVERAL FAMILIES AFTER THE ORIGINAL OWNERS. EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS PLAYED A ROLE IN SHAPING GALVESTON'S DIVERSE AND WORKING CLASS HISTORY, CONTRIBUTING TO COMMERCE, LABOR, AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THE HOUSE HAS BEEN MODIFIED SINCE ITS ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION IN 1884. IT HAS UNDERWENT A COMPLETE REMODEL IN 1926 WHEN OWNED BY THE ROMANO FAMILY. THE REMODEL RESULTED IN A TWO STORY DWELLING, ELEVATED 4.5FT THAT CONTAINED EIGHT ROOMS AND A NEW DOUBLE. GALLERY ACROSS THE MAIN ELEVATION AND ALSO THE CONTINUOUS DORMER. IT PROVIDES A COLONIAL REVIVAL ELEMENT TO THE MODIFIED VICTORIAN STYLE HOUSE. THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES RECOGNIZE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THROUGH TIME, CAN HAVE THEIR OWN SIGNIFICANCE, AND THE HOUSE HAS BEEN IN ITS CURRENT APPEARANCE FOR 99 YEARS. FINANCIAL INCENTIVES. THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. FOR NEW GALVESTON LANDMARKS, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS REQUEST YESTERDAY AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS, AND THAT REQUEST WILL BE HEARD ON MARCH 27TH AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SO I'LL DECORATE IT FOR MARDI GRAS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, SOUTH AND WEST. AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CATHERINE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NONE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. 25P-002. SECOND. SO, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 25P-002. A MOTION IN A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. 25P-002 IS APPROVED. MOVING ON TO 25P-005. ALL RIGHT, 25P-005. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A [7.B.1. 25P-005 (Adjacent To 112 23rd Street) Request For A License To Use In Order To Place A Card Reader In The City Of Galveston Right-Of-Way. Adjacent Property Is Legally Described As Lot A Thompson Place (2022) Abstract 628, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: David Watson Property Owner: SC Galveston Thompson, LLC.] LICENSE TO USE A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ADJACENT TO 112 23RD STREET. IN THIS CASE, THIS WOULD BE IN THE ALLEY, NOT ON THE MAIN STREET. WE'LL GET SOME DETAILS FOR THAT IN A SECOND. THERE ARE 12 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT. NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED. THERE WERE ALSO NO OBJECTIONS BY ANY CITY DEPARTMENT NOR PRIVATE UTILITIES ABOUT THIS REQUEST. SO, THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING A LICENSE TO USE TO PLACE AN ACCESS CARD READER IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE ALLEY. THIS WILL ALLOW OCCUPANTS OF THE BUILDING SECURE ACCESS TO THE ADJACENT FENCED AND GATED PARKING LOT. THE EXISTING ALLEY IS 20 FOOT WIDE, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF ALLEYS IN THE SURVEY AREA, ACCORDING TO SITE VISITS AND THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED. THE ALLEY IS LARGELY UNOBSTRUCTED, EXCEPT FOR EXISTING BOLLARDS, UTILITY POLES AND DUMPSTERS. TYPICALLY, THE THINGS WE SEE IN THE ALLEYS DOWNTOWN. THE PROPOSED CARD READER WILL ENCROACH APPROXIMATELY 24IN INTO THE ALLEY ON AN ARM. AND OF COURSE, THE L2 IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO PLACING ITEMS WITHIN OR OTHERWISE OBSTRUCTING CITY RIGHTS OF WAY ACCORDING TO OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. WHEN LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEWS THE REQUEST AND PROVIDES A RECOMMENDATION. THEY HEARD THIS REQUEST ON THE 17TH, FEBRUARY 17TH YESTERDAY, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THE PROPOSED CARD READER WILL EXTEND APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET INTO THE ALLEY. EXISTING UTILITY POLES ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ALLEY ENCROACH TWICE THAT FAR, ABOUT FOUR FEET, AND EXISTING BOLLARDS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ALLEY ENCROACH ALMOST AS MUCH. AND IN FACT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO PUT THE CARD READER BEHIND ONE OF THOSE EXISTING BOLLARDS. [00:15:03] FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THE REQUEST WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE AND TWO AND STANDARD CONDITIONS THREE THROUGH NINE. WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS. SO, HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SEEN FROM 23RD STREET, JUST FOR REFERENCE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE CARD READER, SOME OF THE OTHER OBSTRUCTIONS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ALLEY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST, THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST. KIND OF THE VICINITY NEAR WHERE THE CARD READER WOULD BE, AND THEN ADJACENT TO WHERE THE CARD READER WOULD ACTUALLY BE LOCATED. HERE YOU HERE YOU CAN SEE THE BOLLARD THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING IN THAT SAME LOCATION AT APPROXIMATELY THE SAME DISTANCE OUT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES STAFF SUPPORT THEN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DANIEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, SIR. IT APPEARS THERE'S ACCESS PLATE RIGHT THERE BEHIND THAT BOLLARD. IS THAT FOR ELECTRICAL BANK OR SEWER OR. WHAT IS THAT FOR? I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE, AND HE MAY BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M WONDERING HOW THAT THE READER WOULD FIT IN THERE, OR IF IT'S JUST A SMALL STANDPIPE AND IT WOULD JUST BE TO THE SIDE OF IT OR WHAT? BUT ANYWAY, YEAH, WE'LL LET THE APPLICANT TELL US. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES, SIR. PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME, SIGN IN AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU ALREADY. I'M DAVID WATSON. THE REQUEST FOR THIS IS THE TREMONT HOUSE NOW OWNS THIS PROPERTY AND HAS CONVERTED THE SEVEN APARTMENTS INTO HOTEL ROOMS THAT THEY WILL UTILIZE. THE CARD READER IS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A CLICKER TO EVERY TIME A PERSON RENTS THE ROOMS. SO, THE QUESTION IS, I GUESS THE CARD READER WOULD BE MOUNTED ON THE ARM, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON TOP OF IT. SO, IT'LL JUST BE AN ARM THAT STICKS OUT. AND THE REASON FOR THE 24 IS INCHES OUT IS THAT BOLLARD IS AT 22IN. SO, WE JUST PUSHED IT OUT TWO MORE INCHES. AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK WE'RE DONE. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO COMMISSION FOR ACTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE 25-005 AS WRITTEN. I'LL SECOND THAT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 20 5-005 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 25-005 IS APPROVED. MOVING ON. 25P-006. 25P-006. THIS IS ANOTHER LICENSE TO USE THE [7.B.2. 25P-006 (Adjacent To Beachside Village Phase 9, Reserves F And G) Request For A License To Use In Order To Place Mobimat Accessible Paths In The City Of Galveston Right-Of-Way. Adjacent Property Is Legally Described As Beachside Village Section 9 (2024), Reserves F & G, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Debbie Reinhart, Ohana Development, LLC. Adjacent Property Owner: Ohana Development, LLC. Easement Holder: City Of Galveston] PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. REQUEST JASON TO BE SITE VILLAGE PHASE NINE RESERVES F AND G. THERE WERE 30 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, EIGHT RETURNED. ALL EIGHT OF THOSE IN FAVOR? NOTE THAT THERE WERE NO CITY DEPARTMENT NOTIFICATION RESPONSES OR PRIVATE UTILITY RESPONSES WITH ANY OBJECTIONS. AND AS KYLE MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS THIS IS BASICALLY A COMPANION CASE TO 24BF-136. WE TALKED ABOUT THE DOOM MITIGATION. NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LICENSE TO USE FOR THE MOBILE MAT. SO OF COURSE, IN 2024, THE APPLICANT DEVELOPER, THE JASON BEACHSIDE VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT PLAT A FINAL PHASE NINE, WHICH BORDERS EIGHT MILE ROAD TO THE WEST. AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT WAS TO PROVIDE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC OFFSITE BEACH PARKING SPOTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN. AND THIS INCLUDES ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES AND AN ACCESSIBLE PATH, WHICH IS WHAT THIS L2 WOULD COVER. SO IN ORDER TO SATISFY THOSE REQUIREMENTS THE APPLICANT POSES TO INSTALL APPROXIMATELY 200 FOOT OF FIVE FOOT WIDE MOBILE MAT GOING FROM THE PARKING AREA TO THE BEACH. THIS WILL BE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF EIGHT MILE ROAD, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THE AREA THAT THE PREVIOUS MITIGATION PRESENTATION ADDRESSES MOBILE MASS IS STABLE TEMPORARY MAT WHICH CAN BE ROLLED OUT ACROSS OTHERWISE SOFT AND STABLE GROUND TO PROVIDE AN ACCESSIBLE PATH FOR WHEELCHAIRS AND OTHER MOBILITY DEVICES. MORE DETAILS ARE PROVIDED IN THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL, AND WE'LL HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE IN A MOMENT AS WELL. THE EIGHT MILE ROAD IS APPROXIMATELY 60 FOOT WIDE, WITH A PAVEMENT WIDTH OF ABOUT 20 TO 22 FOOT. AND WHEN THE SAND IS NOT, YOU KNOW, OVER IT. THE PAVEMENT IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND SO THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS BASICALLY OPEN AND UNOBSTRUCTED. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS REQUIRED CHAPTER PER CHAPTER 32-5 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. [00:20:08] SO AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, IT'S A NONPERMANENT PRODUCT WHICH CAN BE REMOVED RELATIVELY EASILY IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY FOR REPLACEMENT OR FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE APPLICANT FAVORS THIS AS A SOLUTION FOR AN ACCESSIBLE PATH TO THE BEACH, BECAUSE THE DUNE WALKOVER LOCATED FURTHER WEST WOULD POTENTIALLY HARM A VERY TALL, HEALTHY DUNE, AS THE PREVIOUS SUBMITTAL MENTIONED. AND SO THE MOBILE MAT SEEMS TO BE A VERY EASILY MAINTAINABLE, EASILY DEPLOYABLE AND REMOVABLE, MOVABLE LOW COST AND STABLE SOLUTION. FOR THIS REASONS, THESE REASONS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL REQUEST WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH FOUR. IN STANDARD CONDITIONS. LET'S SEE. THAT'S B .5 THROUGH 11. WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS. SO ONCE AGAIN HERE WE HAVE A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION AND EXTENT OF THE PROPOSED MOBILE MAT. AND THEN WE HAVE A PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH DOWN EIGHT MILE ROAD WITH AN ARROW POINTING TO WHERE AP SEVEN IS AT THE END OF THE BEACH. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ONCE AGAIN, A CLOSE UP VIEW WITH AERIAL OVERLAY SHOWING THE APPROXIMATE EXTENTS OF THE MOBILE MAT. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PRODUCT PHOTOS FROM THE MANUFACTURER SHOWING HOW THOSE THINGS ARE DEPLOYED. AND BASICALLY, THEY'RE REMOVED AND ROLLED UP IN THE SAME WAY AND KIND OF HOW THEY FUNCTION AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE ANOTHER PHOTO LOOKING NORTH AT THE ACCESSIBLE PARKING IN QUESTION. ANOTHER PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH OF MORE DOWN THE LINE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, WITH BEACHSIDE VILLAGE BEING ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE. AND THEN LOOKING SOUTH ONCE AGAIN WITH THE AP7 POINTED OUT IN THE PHOTOS FOR REFERENCE. AND THEN A CLOSE UP PHOTO OF WHERE THE DUNE BECOMES TALLER AND MORE VIGOROUS. AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DANIEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. GO AHEAD. A QUESTION FOR KYLE. SO, THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN FOR EIGHT MILE ROAD IS A TOTAL RESTRICTION AGAINST VEHICLES, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. AND LIKE I SAID, WE CAN'T OFFICIALLY RESTRICT THEM UNTIL WE PROVIDE THIS ACCESS. BUT IT HAS BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE GLOW TO RESTRICT THE VEHICLES OFF OF THIS BEACH ONCE ALL OF THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED. OKAY. BUT THEY CAN DRIVE DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. DROP OFF, TURN AROUND AND COME BACK. YES, YES. IF YOU CAN GO BACK A FEW PHOTOS GO BACK. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE THAT IT SHOWS KIND OF THE BOLLARDS. KIND OF YOU CAN SEE, LIKE WHERE THE MOBY MAT ENDS, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A ROUND AROUND AREA. THAT'S WHERE THE BOLLARDS ARE GOING TO BE. SO YOU CAN COME DOWN AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE DOWN, LIKE I SAID, AND DROP PEOPLE OFF AND THEN GO, GO PARK. SO, THERE'S GOING TO BE A WAY FOR THEM TO GO ACTUALLY ONTO THE BEACH, DROP OFF AND THEN SOMEBODY CAN GO PARK AND. YEAH. HAVE YOU SEEN IN THE OTHER AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE A MAT NEXT TO A RIGHT OF WAY, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH VEHICLES DRIVING OVER THE MAT? NO, SIR, I HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ISSUES. THE ONES THAT WE HAVE OUT OF POCKET PARK THREE. THERE'S SOME MATERIAL BETWEEN THEM, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY DRIVING OVER THEM, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE OUR SIGNAGE OUT THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS A POPULAR AREA FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE ONTO THE BEACH. SO ONCE WE START LOOKING AT RESTRICTING THE VEHICLES ON THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING SOCIAL MEDIA ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PUT UP SOME SIGNS THAT NO DRIVE ON ACCESS, SO PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE USED TO COMING DOWN AND DRIVING ON. YOU KNOW, THEY'LL SEE THAT ON THREE, 305. SO, THEY KNOW THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DRIVE ONTO THE BEACH AT THAT PLACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. TOM. SO, THE PARKING IS ON THIS SIDE OF THE VAN IN THIS PHOTO HERE, AND THEN THE MOBY MAT WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO YOU'LL CROSS THAT STREET THERE IN ORDER TO GO FROM THE PARKING TO THE MOBY MAT. GO, GO, GO FORWARD, GO FORWARD. SO RIGHT THERE IS LOOKING SOUTH. YEAH. WHERE THE VEHICLE IS PARKED, THAT IS, YOU CROSS RIGHT THERE. THAT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE. OKAY. RIGHT THERE. GOTCHA. THERE'S A SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTED ALL THE WAY FROM WHERE THE PHOTO WAS AT TO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. OKAY. GOTCHA. THE REASON THAT WE WENT WITH THE MOBY MAT IS, YOU KNOW. YEAH. TALK TO BEACHSIDE VILLAGE. PUTTING A CONCRETE WALKWAY DOWN THERE WAS MORE RESTRICTIONS WITH GLOW WITH THE TACK OR PLAN. SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH THE MOBY MAT. LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHY WE MOVED IT OVER HERE INSTEAD OF DOING A DUNE WALKOVER. SO, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY, AS DANIEL STATED IN HIS PRESENTATION, YOU'RE NOT HAVING SOMETHING GO DOWN INTO THE HEALTHY DUNE. [00:25:03] AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, YOU GET WINDS, YOU'RE TEARING IT UP. THIS THIS AREA IS ALREADY KIND OF IMPACTED BY THE ROAD, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. AND I THINK THE MOBY MATS ARE FANTASTIC FOR THIS PURPOSE. SIDEWALK FROM THE PARKING TO THE MOBY MAT. YES. UNINTERRUPTED. OKAY. AND THEN FOR THE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SIDEWALK AND THEN WHO'S KEEPING THE SAND OFF THE MOBY MAT, FOR INSTANCE? OKAY, SO WHOEVER IS REQUESTING TO RESTRICT THE ACCESS, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO. GOTCHA. OKAY. OR WHOEVER IS WILLING TO DO THAT. SO, IT'S NOT A BURDEN BROUGHT ON TO THIS. OKAY. THE ONLY THING THE CITY DOES DO IS ENSURE THAT THE SIGNAGE OUT THERE, WE MAKE THE SIGNS AND SELL THE SIGNAGE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. OKAY. AND I GUESS, IS THERE ANY SORT OF, LIKE, ADA REQUIREMENTS AROUND KEEPING, YOU KNOW, THAT ACCESSIBLE? OR, YOU KNOW, IF WE GO OUT THERE AND WE SEE IT FILLING UP WITH SAND AND STUFF, WE'LL LET THEM KNOW. OKAY. WE GET ANY COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OKAY. I MEAN, WHEN IT GETS DRY OUT THERE, SOMETIMES WE'LL BE ABLE TO BLOW IT OFF IN THE MORNING. BUT NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AN HOUR LATER AND YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE SOME STUFF. OKAY. BUT THERE'S NOT ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO. WELL OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. STAN. I JUST NOTICED ON THIS AND OF COURSE WE'RE BOUNCING BACK. YOU'RE GETTING YOU'RE GETTING MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS THAN DANIEL. AND DANIEL'S OVER THERE BREATHING A SIGH OF RELIEF BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO MISS. BUT THE I NOTICED THAT THERE IS. YOU'VE GOT IT DETAILED. A CIRCULAR DRIVE DOWN THERE AT THE END. ARE YOU GOING TO BOLLARD THAT TO A CIRCULAR? YEAH. OKAY. WHERE ELSE DO WE HAVE IT LIKE THAT? WE DON'T HAVE IT ANYWHERE ELSE LIKE THAT. THIS IS WHAT WAS. WHY ARE WE DOING IT, THEN? WELL, THIS IS WHAT. WHAT? BEACHSIDE VILLAGE PROPOSED. SO THERE COULD STILL BE SOME ACCESS TO THE TO THE BEACH TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO DROP. DROP OFF. WELL, AT THE OTHER, OTHER SUBDIVISIONS, IT IS JUST A STRAIGHT LINE. THE BOLLARDS ARE A STRAIGHT LINE GOING DOWN TO THE WATER. WHY COULDN'T THAT BE WHAT WE HAVE HERE? SO THAT I JUST SEE A MAYBE CONGESTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON WITH HAVING IT LIKE THAT WHERE VICE YOU KNOW, YOU JUST HAVE THE BOLLARDS GOING, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT OUT THIS IS WHAT BEACHSIDE VILLAGE PROPOSED TO US. THIS IS WHAT IS WHAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THIS. THIS IS A PLAN THAT THEY PROPOSED. AND WHEN WE PUT THE BOLLARDS UP, WE'RE GOING TO BE MONITORING THE TRAFFIC. SO, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO ROB WINNICK, THE ENGINEER, ABOUT OKAY, HOW DO WE DO THIS. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WHEN WE INSTALL THE BOLLARDS, WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO PUT A SIGN THAT SAYS LOADING NO LOADING 15 MINUTES. WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE DO IT. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE UP AND THEN WE'LL MONITOR IT. AND WE MAY, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO PUT UP, YOU KNOW, LOADING UNLOADING ZONES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THIS IS THE DESIGN THAT BEACHSIDE VILLAGE CAME IN. SO, YOU CAN STILL HAVE SOME ACCESS DOWN TO THE YOU KNOW, HAVE ACCESS TO THE BEACH TO DROP, DROP PEOPLE OFF. WELL, I JUST SEE IT AS KIND OF A PRECEDENT SETTING THING THAT WE COULD HAVE IN FUTURE PLACES. AND I JUST DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF LIMITING. OKAY. I'VE GOT TO STOP HERE. WHEREAS I COULD GO JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND BE BY THAT CAR AND GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE SHORELINE WITH MY THINGS OR MY PEOPLE AND STUFF LIKE WE HAVE AT THE OTHER AREAS. SO BEING UNIQUE THAT JUST KIND OF CONCERNS ME. I REALLY DON'T LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT UNIQUE, WHICH COULD SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER THINGS COMING ALONG. IF I CAN JUST MENTION TO THE COMMISSION THAT WE'RE NOT HERE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BOLLARDS ARE GOING TO BE PLACED, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S CIRCULAR FASHION. THE REQUEST IS FOR THE MOBI MAT, AND WE NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST IS FOR. OKAY. SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN. AND MAYBE THIS IS AN EASY FIX. THAT'S THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME PARKING ISSUES DOWN THERE. IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, STAN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE GOT TO SEE HOW IT WORKS. AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY'LL COME UP WITH ANOTHER PLAN. BUT ONE THING I KNOW WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO PARK ON THE TOP OF THAT MOBY MAT, AND THAT DOESN'T WORK. I MEAN, THAT MAKES MOBY MAT SINK IN THE SAND. HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED POSSIBLY PUTTING SOME SORT OF BARRIER OR BARRIER BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAY WHERE THE VEHICLES WOULD BE AND THE MOBY MAT? AND IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. I KNOW THAT MAYBE IT'S GETS TOO COMPLICATED, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING HERE, AND IT'S NOT THERE'S NOT A SIMPLE FIX FOR THIS, AND I KNOW THAT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THAT'S A PRETTY POPULAR SPOT AND IT WON'T TAKE LONG. [00:30:08] THERE'S GOING TO BE A PEOPLE PARKING ON THE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT IT IS IT'S GOING TO GET. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DRY DAY. IT'S GOING TO GET COVERED WITH SAND, AND CARS ARE GOING TO PARK ON TOP OF IT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CREATES SOME MAINTENANCE PROBLEMS FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT A BALLOT THERE, IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN THE MOBI MATS. POSSIBLY, BUT I'D BE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. HOW HARD WOULD IT BE TO PUT BOLLARDS BETWEEN THERE? BECAUSE YOU PUT ALL THE SIGNS YOU WANT RIGHT THERE. I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YEAH. I MEAN, WE AND WE DO THIS WITH ALL OUR OTHER ACCESS POINTS. I MEAN, WE EVALUATE THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE A DUNE WALKOVER, YOU VEGETATION HAS MOVED OUT. YOU HAVE TO REDO IT. SO RIGHT. CONTINUOUSLY WORKING ON THESE AND THAT HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE WITH BEACHSIDE VILLAGE OF IF THIS COMES UP YOU KNOW BUT WE'RE WHEN WE CLOSE THIS DOWN I'VE ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PD AND THE MARSHALLS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A LEARNING CURVE FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT IT'S SHUT DOWN. AND SO, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE NOTIFYING EVERYBODY. AND IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO PROTECT THE MOBILE APP, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. IT'S IN OUR PLAN SO PLANS. SO, WE CAN MODIFY. CAN WE MODIFY THAT? WE DON'T HAVE TO. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO JAIL. WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT. IT JUST SHOWS THAT THERE IS A WALKWAY THERE SO WE CAN PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS, BUT UNTIL WE PUT IT IN, UNTIL WE KIND OF SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY OVER THE SUMMER SAY, HEY, THIS ISN'T WORKING OR LET'S, LET'S EVALUATE THIS. SO, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS OF, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE BOLLARDS IN. HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THAT. BUT WE NEED TO PUT THEM IN FIRST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT HAPPENS, WHAT'S HAPPENING. RIGHT. AND I WOULD MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT, WELL, MAYBE NOT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT SMALLER TO WHERE YOU ELIMINATE THE CIRCULAR DEAL, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GOT TO GO DO OR REDO WITH? I MEAN, WE JUST WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIMENSIONS ON THERE THAT SAYS THAT THAT TURNAROUND HAS TO BE AN EIGHT FOOT RADIUS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT JUST SHOWS. OKAY. IT IS. WE JUST HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC ACCESS. AND LOOK, THE APPLICANTS HERE, THEY'RE WELL VERSED IN THIS STUFF. SO I MEAN I'M LIKE, HEY, I CAN SEE THE CHALLENGES. SO WE'LL ASK HER THOSE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? I'M SORRY. YES, PLEASE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ON THE MOBILE MAPS. SO AS WE'RE SEEING ON THE PICTURES, THE ASPHALT STAYING RIGHT, THE ASPHALT ROADS STAYING AND THIS MOBILE THAT'S GOING TO BE ADJACENT TO THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING THE DUNE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IT THROUGH RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH. THE BOLLARDS ARE GOING TO BASICALLY TERMINATE AT THE CUL-DE-SAC OR THE ROUND DRIVE PAVEMENT. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE VEHICLE. THERE'S GOING TO BE A, LIKE YOU SAID, A CUL-DE-SAC OF BOLLARDS WHERE YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN, TURN AROUND, DROP PEOPLE OFF AND THEN GO BACK AND PARK, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE MOBI MAT ADJACENT TO EIGHT MILE ROAD, BASICALLY GOING WHERE THERE'S A DUNE THERE. NOW THERE'S GOING TO GOING TO BE TAKING OFF. IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A 3 TO 1 SIDE SLOPE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE THERE'S A DUNE GOING, RIGHT? WELL, THE DUNE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, EIGHT MILE ROAD THE MINUTE THAT THERE'S A MINI HIGH TIDE AT ALL GOES STRAIGHT UP EIGHT MILE ROAD IS THERE IS THAT DUNE GOING TO BE CONTIGUOUS FROM THAT OPENING OR IS IT JUST GOING TO STAY OPEN? IN OTHER WORDS, IS THAT DUNE OR FUTURE DUNE TO PROTECT THE MOBILE MAP, IS THAT GOING TO CIRCLE AROUND THAT CUL-DE-SAC OR IS THAT JUST GOING TO STAY OPEN? IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE IT'S GOING NOW. I MEAN, WE'RE JUST TAKING THAT DUNE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND MOVING IT OVER FOR MITIGATION. SO THE DUNES JUST THE ONLY THING. SO EIGHT MILE ROAD IS GOING TO STAY OPEN. OKAY. DOWN INTO THE CUL-DE-SAC. YEAH. IT'LL BE OPEN DOWN INTO THE CUL-DE-SAC ON THE BEACH. YEAH. EIGHT MILE ROAD IS NOT BEING SHUT DOWN. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS JUST BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE INSIDE EIGHT MILE ROAD. THERE'S A DUNE THERE. NOW, YOU'RE TAKING ALL THAT VEGETATION AND SAND. WE'RE MOVING IT AROUND TO ANOTHER PART OF THAT DUNE SYSTEM, AND WE'RE PUTTING THAT MOVEMENT BY THE SIDE OF EIGHT MILE ROAD, WHERE THE DUNE IS CURRENTLY LOCATED. OKAY. YES, PLEASE. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE DUNE MITIGATION PIECE, IT'S 246 FOOT LONG PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY. THAT'S THE MOBY MAT. YEAH. ROUGHLY. YES. OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE ON THIS L2, IT'S 200FT. SO, I MEAN, IT'S 50FT IS 50FT. THAT'S A NICE LITTLE STRETCH. YEAH. SO I KNOW IT'S ADAPTABLE. AND THEN TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S QUESTION, THE DUNE, WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH IT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO CUT OFF THAT LITTLE EDGE OF IT. CUT OFF THE LITTLE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. [00:35:02] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, MA'AM. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. THESE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS. WHAT CAN I CLEAR UP FOR YOU? SO. SO, MY CONCERN MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IS THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY POPULAR HAS BEEN A VERY POPULAR BEACH PARKING AREA ON THE BEACH PARKING AREA FOR A LONG TIME. YEP. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST CHANGE OVERNIGHT. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHALLENGES. THE MARSHAL DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH MARSHALS TO SEND DOWN THERE TO FIX WHAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME ONGOING PROBLEMS THERE. SO. I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I WANTED TO ASK YOU YOU'RE BENEFITING FROM THIS. OR I SAY YOUR COMMUNITY CERTAINLY HAS A DIRECT BENEFIT OF REMOVING THAT TRAFFIC OFF OF THAT BEACH. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ARGUE THAT. I JUST WANT SOME ASSURANCES FROM YOU IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A MOVING TARGET FIGURING THIS OUT AND THAT I JUST WANT SOME ASSURANCES FROM YOU THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, AND YOU'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING IT WORK, WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO TAKE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN PLAN THIS TEN TIMES IN TEN TIMES. YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I JUST I GUESS I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I AM. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY. WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING. WELL, THE DEAL IS IT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOUR COMMUNITY HAS THE BENEFIT OF REMOVING THE TRAFFIC. AND IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE MAINTAIN THE MASK, MAINTAIN THE ROADS, MAINTAIN ALL OF THAT. AND I'M, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT YOUR NEIGHBORS TOO. THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE PARKING IN A LOT OF PLACES THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW THAT THAT BURDEN IS YOURS. I MEAN, YOU CAN CALL THE MARSHAL ALL YOU WANT, BUT IT'S A BENEFIT FOR YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S GOING TO IMPACT. AND LOOK, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE HAD HEARINGS AND EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK, AND I GUESS I'M TAKING MY TWO MINUTES, MAYBE THREE. BUT I JUST WANT SOME ASSURANCES THAT YOU GUYS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU CAN TO FIX THOSE PROBLEMS WHEN THEY COME UP BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING. WELL, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THIS ON BEACH PARKING RELOCATED FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS, AND IT IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR THE CITY. IT'S A HUGE MESS. AND YES, BEACHSIDE VILLAGE WILL BENEFIT. WE'VE TRIED TO THINK ABOUT ALL SORTS OF CONSEQUENCES AS WE DESIGN THIS PLAN. AND WHAT WILL BE, WILL BE AND WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T PROVIDE THIS OFF BEACH PARKING IN THIS ACCESS, AND WE FIGURED OUT THOSE BOLLARDS WILL BE REMOVED IN THE PARKING VEHICLES WILL BE BACK ONTO THE BEACH. THAT IS THAT OKAY? YEAH. IT'S NOT A SHUTDOWN. AND WE'RE GOING TO NOBODY'S IF WE CAN'T MAINTAIN ACCESS TO THE BEACH AND WE CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT, THEN WE HAVE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE BEACH. THEN THE BOLLARDS WILL BE PULLED BACK UP AND VEHICLES WILL BE BACK ON THERE UNTIL WE GET IT, TILL WE GET IT FIGURED OUT. BUT UNTIL WE PUT IT DOWN THERE, WE CAN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUES. AND I UNDERSTAND AND THAT'S FAIR THAT THAT'S THAT ANSWERS THAT THAT HELPS ME. THAT'S ANY AREA THAT WE HAVE VEHICLES RESTRICTED ON THE ON THE BEACH. IF WE HAVE A STORM AND SOMEBODY DOESN'T COME BACK IN AND REPAIR A WALKOVER THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPAIR, THEN WE I'LL CALL THEM UP AND SAY, IF WE DON'T GET IT REPAIRED, WE'LL BE OUT THERE TAKING UP THE BOLLARDS AND THERE WILL BE VEHICLES BACK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN ACCESS TO THE BEACH UNDER THE OPEN BEACHES ACT. SO THAT'S WHAT THE CITY DOES. THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S ACCESS. RIGHT. AND IN ALL FAIRNESS, THEY'VE SPENT SOME TIME AND MONEY IN. JUST TO ADD TO WHAT KYLE IS SAYING, YOU CAN COUNT ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE EXISTING BEACH ACCESS POINTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN BEACHSIDE VILLAGE. WE ROLL THEM UP BEFORE THE STORM, WE PUT THEM BACK. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS, SO THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. [00:40:01] THIS IS JUST AN EXTENSION, AND THE INTENT IS THE SAME. OKAY, I GET IT. I'M JUST I HAVE MY CONCERNS AND RESERVATIONS AND I JUST. AND WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE KNOW UNTIL WE. AND YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. AND I GUESS THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION I THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO. AND THERE IS GOING TO BE A LEARNING CURVE. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN TO THIS ACCESS POINT EVERY WEEKEND, EVERY SUMMER. SO, WE GET THAT AND IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLICATED. AND I'M GOING TO COUNT ON THE CITY TO HELP WITH THIS, AND WE'LL HELP PROVIDE SOME SECURITY FOR THIS. BUT THIS IS A THIS HAS BEEN THE GOAL OF QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE CITY TO GET THIS CLEANED UP SO THAT CITY RESOURCES CAN BE BETTER USED ELSEWHERE. YEAH. YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR TEN YEARS. I CAN REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A FIVE YEAR OLD DRIVING ON THAT BEACH. SO, THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE GOING TO THAT BEACH FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. AND I'M AND LOOK, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. I'M WE GOT TO TRY THIS KIND OF STUFF. SO, I'M OPEN TO TRYING IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GOING TO WORK. SO, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THAT. SO, I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE I BELIEVE WE'VE FOLLOWED THE GLOW PROCEDURE. THE CITY PROCEDURE. YES, MA'AM. YOU HAVE. SO, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT. SO, AND I GUESS I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT AND I DON'T REALLY I'M NOT TRYING TO, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THIS. I HOPE IT WORKS; I TRULY DO. SO SORRY. I'VE HAD MY THREE MINUTES. THEY NEED TO TURN ME OFF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. YES, MA'AM. YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? WELL, YOU KNOW, I POSED THE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE CIRCULAR BOLLARDS. WE'VE GOT AN ANSWER FOR THAT. WHAT I'LL SAY TO THAT IS I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT AS YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCE IS TO BUILD SUBDIVISIONS, NOT BOLLARDS. AND WHEN I GET TO THE END OF A STREET, IF IT'S BEYOND A CERTAIN LENGTH, I HAVE TO BUILD A CUL-DE-SAC. AND SO THAT IS THE EXPERIENCE THAT BROUGHT US TO THIS SOLUTION, IS THAT THE INTENT IS FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE DOWN IF THEY HAVE FAMILIES AND THEY HAVE WAGONS OR THEY HAVE SMALL, YOU KNOW, KAYAKS OR SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE EASY TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR THEM TO DROP THEM OFF AND THEN GO PARK. NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MATTERS TO US IF IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC OR A SQUARE OR A RECTANGLE. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MATTERS. IT JUST MADE SENSE TO US TO MAKE IT ROUND, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET OUT OF THE END OF A STREET. I'VE BEEN TO PARTIES. I'VE BEEN TO PARTIES IN CUL-DE-SACS. IT'S ALL THEY KNOW HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PARK THERE. THAT'S ALL IT'LL BE. THEY'LL BE STANDING. THEY'LL BE STANDING. STANDING? YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WENT WITH A CUL-DE-SAC MODE INSTEAD OF JUST DOING LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE, OR MOST OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE, WHERE THEY HAVE THE BOLLARDS JUST GOING FROM THE PROPERTY LINE GOING STRAIGHT DOWN. AND IT'S AN EASY DELINEATED. IT DOESN'T CREATE ANY KIND OF CONFUSION OR CLOSE CALLS WITH OTHER VEHICLES BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE RESTRICTING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT YOU'RE RESTRICTING WHATEVER TRAFFIC COMES IN THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE RESTRICTED IN A, IN A CIRCULAR DRIVE VERSUS I CAN GO, OH, WELL, I WANT TO GET THAT CLOSE TO THAT GUY WHILE HE'S UNLOADING HIS CRAP. I'M GOING TO GO OVER HERE AND JUST PARK OVER HERE. I THINK I'VE EXPLAINED WHY WE CAME UP WITH THAT DESIGN. THE INSTINCT THAT HAD US DO THAT. IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE CAN GO BACK AND MAKE IT A SQUARE. OKAY? I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US IF IT'S A RECTANGLE OR A SQUARE. WE JUST THOUGHT THAT JUST WANTED TO KEEP THE PEOPLE OFF. WE JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ON YOUR PROPERTY. GOT IT? YES, MA'AM. SO, I GUESS I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE ASSISTING THE CITY WITH YOUR OWN PERSONNEL FOR SECURITY. WE HAVE CONSIDERED WE ALREADY HAVE SECURITY IN BEACHSIDE VILLAGE ON ON THE WEEKENDS, AND WE HAVE CONSIDERED BRINGING IN AN EXTRA SECURITY PERSON TO HELP EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T THEY CAN NO LONGER PARK IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, SHOW THEM WHERE THEY CAN PARK. THAT'S THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. OKAY, SO WILL YOU GUYS ALSO BE ADDING SIGNAGE WITH, YOU KNOW, PHONE AND WAIT, I NEED THAT QUESTION. THAT'S NOT REALLY THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK. APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT. IS THERE GOING TO BE TOWING THERE IF PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR CARS FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME? THAT'S WHAT I'M WORKING ON WITH ROB. I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO PUT THE SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIGNAGE, RIGHT? I'VE KIND OF ALREADY TALKED TO ROB THE CHIEF AND, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEER AND TALKED ABOUT HOW WE NEED SIGNAGE, LIKE, WELL, WE JUST NEED TO SEE LET'S INSTALL THE BOLLARDS AND LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES BEFORE WE CAN REALLY DO THAT, BECAUSE HE CAN PUT UP SOME OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S UNDER HIS AUTHORITY. BUT HE'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO PUT OUT THERE. AND KIND OF GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER HUMPHREY, THE RADIUS OF THE THING IS, AND I'VE HAD MEETINGS OUT THERE WITH THE REINHARTS IS LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT IT HAS TO BE THIS TYPE OF RADIUS SO WE CAN MAKE IT OBLONG. [00:45:05] WE PUT THEM IN AND WAS LIKE, HEY, WE MAYBE NEED TO MAKE IT A LARGER RADIUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE CAN. IT DOESN'T SAY IN OUR PLAN IT'S GOT TO BE A, THIS RADIUS OF THE CIRCLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE JUST SHOW THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE. SO I FIGURED THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST THING OF OKAY, WE PUT ON THERE. I'VE ALREADY LET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE MARSHALS WERE MEETING TO SAY, THIS IS COMING. THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING. WHEN WE'RE CLOSING THINGS DOWN AND WE'RE WORKING ON STUFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO REALLY GOOD COMMUNICATION BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A VERY POPULAR PLACE FOR PEOPLE. AND SO, WE'RE GOING TO BE BLASTING IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO THE PUBLIC. AND I SAID DOING STUFF THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE PAST OF PUTTING SIGNS UP ON 305 ON ACCESS ONLY. I MEAN, NO DRIVE ON ACCESS, STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, THEY KNOW BEFORE THEY PULL DOWN THERE WHAT'S DOWN THERE? OKAY, OH, QUICKLY. I KNOW THIS IS ABOUT THE L2 IS ABOUT THE MAP, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MR. REINHARDT, THAT THE PARKING LOT. IT LOOKS GREAT. THANK YOU. THE 16 ACCESSIBLE SPOTS THAT ARE FURTHER DOWN ARE REALLY WELL MARKED. THEY REALLY LOOK GREAT. SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD JOB. AND I'LL ANSWER THE OTHER QUESTION. WE BUILT THE OVERFLOW PARKING. WE BROUGHT THE CONCRETE TO OUR PROPERTY LINE. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S THE GAP BETWEEN THE ASPHALT AND THE PARKING. AND SO NOW WE'RE NOW, WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING A PERMIT TO CONNECT THE TWO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY, JUST KEEP IN MIND IS EMERGENCY AMBULANCE ACCESS. JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT DO FREQUENT THAT AREA, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP IN MIND, LIKE WITH THE BOLLARDS ARE CONTINUOUS KIND OF WHY I WAS ASKING. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETELY BALD. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A CLOSED BOLLARD SITUATION BECAUSE IN ANY BOLLARD SITUATION ALL ALONG THE WEST END, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS SPACE FOR THE TRASH TRUCKS AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET THROUGH THAT. THAT WILL EXIST HERE. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL HAVE THAT. YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT OVER THERE. MARK. YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY OR HOW IT'S MARKED OTHER PLACES. IF YOU IF YOU WERE TO GO DOWN TO THIS EXACT AREA RIGHT NOW AND TAKE A RIGHT WHEN YOU GET TO THE BEACH, YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE BOLLARDS AT THE OTHER END OF MY MOST RECENT SECTION, AND IT'LL BE SIMILAR TO THAT, ONLY IT WON'T BE A STRAIGHT LINE. YEAH, THERE'S AN OPENING THERE. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. GOOD DEAL. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU. I KNOW WE GOT OFF THE TRACK, BUT. AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS I TRULY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SINCE THERE'S NOBODY HERE WE'RE GOING TO SAY NO. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO COMMISSION FOR ACTION. I'LL REMIND YOU THAT THIS IS FOR AN L2 FOR MOBY MAP IS WHAT THE REQUEST IS FOR. SO. YES, MA'AM. I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE 25P-006. SECOND. SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. 25P-006. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, TOM. I'LL JUST SAY THE MOBY MATS ARE AWESOME. THEY'RE REALLY GREAT. I THINK THEY HAVE SOME AT EAST BEACH NOW, AS WELL AS STEWART BEACH, AND I THINK THEY'RE A REALLY GOOD SOLUTION FOR THIS SORT OF THING. SO. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 20 5P-006. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, DON, I GOT A QUESTION. SO, WE HAVE OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. [Additional Item] YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT DISCUSSIONS. AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON OUR AGENDA BUT CAN WE JUST THE AGENDA. YES. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ISN'T A SPECIFIC DISCUSSION, BUT TYPICALLY AT THE END OF OUR MEETINGS, WE ASK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE PLACED ON. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE DO HAVE OPTIONS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AS WELL, WHICH WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH AT THE BEGINNING. WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND DO PUBLIC COMMENTS AGAIN ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. SO OKAY, MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS HAVING THE. SO, HERE'S ALL RIGHT. SO, HERE'S THE DIRECTION THAT. SO, WE THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT WHERE THE COUNCIL WANTED TO HAVE SOME COMMENTS FROM THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. OR YOU KNOW, COMMITTEES OR WHATEVER. AND WHEN THAT CAME UP THERE WERE WE KIND OF HAD A VERY SMALL DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME ITEMS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE WORTHY OF MAYBE SOME OF US LOOKING AT. AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. AND NOT TO PICK ANYONE SPECIFICALLY. I'M JUST PICKING ONE. BUT THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE LOTS FRONTED ON. [00:50:06] THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GRID, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY, IN LOTS, FRONTED THE THE ALLEYWAY, AND WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK INTO. THERE WAS THERE WAS ONE WHERE KYLE TALKED ABOUT HARDENING, POSSIBLY HARDENING SOME OF THESE DUNES THAT ARE BUILT. BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO GO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THIS, WE GOT TO WE WORK FOR YOU GUYS. AND SO WE KIND OF NEED TO HAVE COUNCIL SAY, YES. THOSE ARE SOME GREAT IDEAS. WHY DON'T YOU LOOK AT IT AND BRING US BACK WHAT YOU COME UP WITH. SO, AND I'M JUST PICKING A COUPLE OUT OF MY HAT. WE HAVE A HANDFUL. SO, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS LIKE THAT. I'VE BEEN ABSENT. NO. AND LOOK AND LOOK. AND THAT'S BEFORE YOU EVEN START. AND WE'RE ALL BUSY. YEAH, I GET IT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE GOT YOU UP HERE. IF WE NEEDED YOU, WE'D CALL YOU AND TELL YOU, HEY, WE GOT TO HAVE YOU HERE. I GET IT. SO, I HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT YOU BEING HERE OR NOT BEING HERE. I'M NOT HERE SOMETIMES. SO THERE'S NO APOLOGY NEEDED FOR THAT IN MY REGARD. SO, YES, I THINK WHAT WE WERE GETTING AT IS WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DOES THE CITY WANT US TO HAVE IN THESE REPORT OUTS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT US TO BRING THINGS TO YOU, OR DO YOU WANT TO TELL US THINGS THAT YOU WANT US TO DO? OR. I MEAN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS FOR THESE MEETINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH CITY COUNCIL. WAS THAT CLOSE? AND IT IS. AND SOME OF IT IS, IT'D BE LIKE IT'D BE NICE IF WE HAD WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST AND WE NEED TO WORK ON IT AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHOW UP WITH 20 ITEMS. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW IT WITH 1 OR 2 THAT WE THINK WE CAN GET DONE. SO SO WHAT I WILL SAY IS TWO THINGS RIGHT NOW, THERE AREN'T ANY SCHEDULED MEETINGS SPECIFICALLY WITH CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION. CORRECT. THAT WAS PART OF ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE WANTED FEEDBACK ON. AND I THINK WHAT I'M REALLY HEARING ON EVERYONE ON THE DAIS IS THAT GIVE US DIRECTION, WHETHER IT IS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO GIVE TO CITY COUNCIL OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND. AND REALLY, ULTIMATELY, WE JUST NEED TO SCHEDULE EITHER A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT IT, FOR EVERYBODY TO BE THERE AND TO BRING, YOU KNOW, THEIR THOUGHTS ON DIRECTION, DIRECTION FROM THIS END AND DIRECTION FROM THAT END. AND THAT MAY BE THE NEXT THING. WELL, AS YOU ALL PROBABLY NOTICED, WE WE'VE HAD PARTNERSHIP MEETINGS WITH BOTH THE PARKS BOARD AND WITH THE PORT OF GALVESTON. AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT KIND OF TOOK PRECEDENCE IN THE IMMEDIATE THAT WE I FEEL WERE VERY PRODUCTIVE. I THINK ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I CAN DO IS BE THE I WOULDN'T SAY MEDIATOR, BUT THE GO BETWEEN IF THERE ARE THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME ITEMS THAT COME UP THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TAKE BACK TO COUNCIL, TO WORKSHOP, TO TO SEE IF THERE NEEDS TO BE DUAL, YOU KNOW, DUAL PARTICIPATION OR US MEETING TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WITH EITHER A DISCUSSION OR WORKSHOP INDIVIDUALLY. BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH PUTTING TOGETHER A WORKSHOP BETWEEN THE TWO OF US. IF THERE ARE SOME VERY PRESSING ISSUES THAT YOU'VE HAD THAT HAVE COME UP. IF THERE'S OTHERS THAT IT'S MORE OF, I CAN JUST PUT ON THE AGENDA OF A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, TO BASICALLY PRESENT AND CONVEY AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH, YOU KNOW, IN PARTICIPATION THAT WAY. THEN I'M OPEN TO THAT AS WELL. I'VE GOT MY BIGGEST POINT IS JUST TO BE HERE AT EACH OF THESE MEETINGS THAT ARE COMING UP, AND I'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE MAYOR AND JUST KIND OF LET HIM KNOW WHAT I'VE HAD GOING ON SO HE CAN MAYBE COMMUNICATE THAT TO Y'ALL. WOULDN'T SURE IF HE HAS. BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY, I WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY. IF Y'ALL THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH AND THERE'S A MOUND OF ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND WORKSHOP, THEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET IT SCHEDULED AND PUT IT ON THERE. BUT IF NOT, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT I CAN TAKE AND PUT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS DURING WORKSHOP, WE CAN GET IT DONE THAT WAY AS WELL. YEAH. AND I LOOK AT IT AS WE'RE WILLING TO DO SOME OF THE HEAVY LIFTING AND WE'LL WE WOULD DO THE HEAVY LIFTING FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE WORK FOR YOU. WE NEED YOU TO SAY, HEY, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. [00:55:04] YOU GUYS GO THAT DIRECTION AND WE'LL DO THE HEAVY LIFTING AND REPORT BACK TO YOU. WHAT Y'ALL DO WITH IT IS Y'ALL'S BUSINESS. BUT IT WOULD LET US. IT WOULD. WE'RE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OUR HANDS ARE A LITTLE BIT TIED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DIRECTIVE FROM YOU IN ORDER FOR US TO GET STAFF INVOLVED IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN OUR TYPICAL AGENDA ITEMS. IS THAT CORRECT, DONNA? FOR THE MOST PART, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I REALLY MEANT A WORKSHOP AMONGST THE GROUP HERE, NOT NECESSARILY BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE'VE WORKED IN DEPTH ON YET. NOW, IF CITY COUNCIL MENTIONS TO, HEY, I WISH PLANNING COMMISSION COULD WORK ON THIS FOR US AND GIVES US THAT DIRECTION, THEN CLEARLY THAT'S SOMETHING FROM CITY COUNCIL. BUT ULTIMATELY, THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH THAT I THINK IT IS WORTHY TO JUST SEE IF WE CAN SCHEDULE SOME TIME SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN FLESH OUT. AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MAKING NOTES AND LISTS ABOUT WHAT TO BRING TO THE TABLE ANYWAY, AND THEN JUST SAY, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT. COUNCILPERSON, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? COUNCILPERSON HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS HEARING FROM COUNCIL AND THEY WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO KIND OF TOUCH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ALSO A REALLY GOOD TIME JUST AS FAR AS TIMING GOES. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PRESSING ISSUES FOR US IS TO START REALLY PUSHING HARD FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOU KNOW, ALL THAT'S INVOLVED BOTH WITH US INTERNALLY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS PUBLICLY, THIS IS THE TIME TO TO REALLY KIND OF TALK SHOP WITH THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE THIS IS WHEN THEY GET INCLUDED IN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IN THESE UPCOMING MONTHS. SO AGAIN, GOOD ON TIMING. AND YOU KNOW, FOR FOR THOSE ITEMS TO COME UP AND TO BE OF IMPORTANCE THAT WE CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT CERTAIN ITEMS ARE DISCUSSED TO BE INCLUDED WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU KNOW THIS THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT. NOT TODAY. I'M SAYING TIMING WISE, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. RIGHT. BUT I'LL JUST NOTE FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION. THE DEADLINE FOR MARCH 18TH IS TODAY, AND SO FAR WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE CASE SUBMITTED. SO WE'RE IN A VERY LIGHT CASELOAD ON THAT DAY. IF WE WANT TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP. SO WOULD THIS GIVE US THE GREEN LIGHT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO GO? HEY, THAT NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE. NO OFFENSE, BUT YOU NEED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT. SO AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE TOM TOM IS A BIG PART OF PART OF IT. SO I'VE HAD A LOT OF JOBS OUT WEST AS FAR AS CAL GOES, PROJECTS ON THAT WEST END. SO IF WE CAN SCHEDULE IT TO WORK AND BLOCK OUT THE DAY AND BE HERE IN THE MORNING, THEN THAT'S USUALLY REALLY GOOD. IF IT'S LUNCHTIME ON, THAT'S REALLY GOOD. AS LONG AS I KNOW AHEAD OF TIME OF THE SCHEDULE I CAN WORK IT OUT. UNDER THIS SCENARIO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE HAVE A VERY LIGHT. WE WOULD PROBABLY COME MEET THE MORNING. IS THAT THE MORNING? NO, THE MORNING MEETING IS THE NEXT MEETING. THAT'S ON THE EIGHTH. THIS IS AT OUR REGULAR TIME. SO USUALLY, IT'S AN HOUR BEFORE. YEAH. SO TYPICALLY, WE WOULD HAVE A YEAH, WE WOULD SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP FOR AN HOUR BEFORE. SO, 2:30 ON THE 18TH. YEP. SO, THIS, WE WOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP AT 2:30. WE'D HAVE OUR DISCUSSION. WE'D PROBABLY AND MAKE AN EFFORT TO PICK A FEW ITEMS THAT, HEY, WE WOULD WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON. WE DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING. I KNOW Y'ALL ARE BUSY. Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP YOUR TIME, I GET THAT, SO WE'RE ALL BUSY. BUT IT ALL MATTERS, RIGHT? AND IT DOES SO. AND THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT MATTER TO US. AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT. SO CAN WE. YEAH. TO MOVE FORWARD WE CAN PUT A DISCUSSION ITEM ON THE MEETING ON THE FOURTH SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT TOPICS WE WANT TO HAVE AT THE WORKSHOP. AND THEN WE'LL DO THE WORKSHOP FOR 2:30 ON THE 18TH. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE BOTH MARCH DATES. SO, THE WORKSHOP ON THE FOURTH IS A MORNING MEETING. YES. NO, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ON THE FOURTH IS IN THE MORNING. IN THE MORNING. YEAH. 9:00. SO, WE WOULD, I'M ASSUMING WE WOULD NEED IT. IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE A REGULAR MEETING. IT'S JUST THE TIME SCHEDULE. BUT WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AMONGST OURSELVES. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING IS THAT WE WOULD. YEAH, WE WOULD USE THAT MEETING IN ORDER TO, TO SET WHAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT AT THE WORKSHOP. OKAY. GOOD. SO, WE'RE GOING TO ADD A DISCUSSION ITEM TO OUR FOURTH MEETING. YES. AND THEN OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THE 18TH. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU GOOD WITH ALL THAT, BO? YEAH. SO, WE'VE GOT THE FOR 9 A.M. THAT'S CORRECT. [01:00:06] AT 2:30. SO, THE FOURTH IS REGULAR MEETING. YEAH. THAT'S A REGULAR MEETING. WE JUST MOVE IT TO THE MORNING WHEN IT CONFLICTS WITH MARDI GRAS. RIGHT. AND YEAH. SO, WE ARE GOING TO BRING A KING CAKE. KYLE SAID JUST YESTERDAY THAT WE SHOULD BRING A KING CAKE. AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. WE SHOULD DO A COW CAKE. THAT'S GOOD. I'LL GET THE BABY. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WOOHOO! ALL RIGHT THEN. ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER BUSINESS. THEN WE'LL BE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU BOTH. THANK YOU, GUYS. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.