[5.A.1. 24P-044 (Adjacent To 1522 Ball / Avenue H) Request For A License To Use In Order To Place A Charging Station In The City Of Galveston Right-Of-Way. Adjacent Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, Lot 12, Block 315, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Jason Johnston Property Owners: Jason And Danielle Johnston]

A LICENSE TO USE ITEM NUMBER 24P-044.

ALRIGHTY. SO 24P-044.

THIS IS A 1522 BALL.

AND YEAH, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A LICENSE TO USE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR AN EV CHARGING STATION.

THERE WERE 25 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT.

THREE RETURNED. ALL THREE OF THOSE IN OPPOSITION.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PERMANENT LICENSE TO USE TO PLACE A CAR CHARGING STATION IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY ALONG BALL STREET.

IN ORDER TO CHARGE A PERSONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE THE APPLICANT OWNS THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE, IS ALSO OWNED BY THE APPLICANT, AND OCCUPIES THE MAJORITY OF THE LOT.

WHICH LEAVES FEW ALTERNATIVES.

PLEASE SEE EXHIBIT C FOR PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CURRENT CONDITION.

IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A HOUSING FOR THE CHARGING STATION AND INSTALL ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL LINES UNDERGROUND AS NEEDED FOR THE CHARGING STATION.

OF COURSE, A LICENSE IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO PLACING ITEMS WITHIN OR OTHERWISE OBSTRUCTING THE CITY RIGHTS OF WAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 32-5 OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

WHEN LOCATED WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEWS REQUESTS AND PROVIDES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THE CASE.

IN THIS INSTANCE.

AT THEIR DECEMBER 16TH, 2024 MEETING LANDMARK COMMISSION A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL FAILED DUE TO LACK OF AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND A DENIAL.

SO THE PROPER, SO AS FAR AS STAFF RECOMMENDATION GOES, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE SPACE FOR OFF STREET PARKING FROM THE ALLEY DUE TO SOME VARIETY OF FACTORS WHICH THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE IS HERE TO EXPLAIN.

LET'S SEE HERE, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS CAN BE THOUGHT OF AS SPIRITUAL SUCCESSORS TO HISTORIC HITCHING POSTS, WHICH WERE USED IN PREDOMINANTLY AUTOMOBILE ERA TO TETHER HORSES, WHICH OF COURSE WAS A COMMON FORM OF TRANSPORTATION BEFORE AUTOMOBILES.

THOSE HITCHING POSTS ARE FOUND IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND CONSIDERED TO BE CONTRIBUTING ELEMENTS.

NOTE ALSO, THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE STILL NEIGHBORHOODS INHABITED BY MODERN RESIDENTS, AND THE NEEDS OF MODERN RESIDENTS SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED.

YOU KNOW, TO A PRACTICAL DEGREE, STAFF HAS CONCERNS WITH THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED INSTALLATION ON EXISTING ADJACENT STREET TREES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS LOCATING THE CHARGING STATION AS FAR AWAY FROM ALL STREET TREES AS POSSIBLE, IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE POTENTIAL DAMAGE TO THE ROOT SYSTEMS AND PROTECT THE TREES.

SO, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THE REQUEST WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH 11 IN THE STAFF REPORT.

WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS.

SO HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY JUST SEEN FROM THE STREET AND A VICINITY MAP SHOWING ITS LOCATION MID BLOCK.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HERE WE HAVE SOME OF THE APPLICANTS SUBMITTAL SHOWING THE LOCATION, PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE CHARGING STATION IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, BETWEEN ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK AND THE CURB.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF A SIMILAR EV CHARGING STATION, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN 2018.

JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOOKING SORT OF NORTHWEST.

YOU CAN SEE THE APPLICANT'S RESIDENCE THERE IN THE BACKGROUND.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE STREET TREES THERE THAT STAFF HAD CONCERNS ABOUT.

LOOKING WEST DOWN THE SIDEWALK IN THE SAME LOCATION AND THEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OH. YEAH.

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THE MENTION OF THE PREVIOUS CHARGING STATION.

2318M. YES.

IS THAT IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT? THAT IS IN THE LOST BAYOU HISTORIC DISTRICT AS WELL.

YES. LOST BAYOUS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SILK STOCKING.

OH. SILK STOCKING. I'M SORRY.

SO. YEAH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

THE OTHER ONE IS SO I, I SEE IT SAID THAT THERE WAS NOT SPACE FOR A PARKING IN THE BACK.

IS THERE SOMETHING IN THIS? I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT THERE LOOKS LIKE THERE IS SPACE.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

AND LANDMARK COMMISSION HAD SIMILAR QUESTIONS, SO I WOULD DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION.

SO DOES THE PROPERTY EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO THE CURB OR DOES IT END AT THE SIDEWALK.

NO. IT ENDS APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE FENCE THERE IS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SO I ASSUME THAT THE GRANTING OF A L2 IN THIS CASE DOES NOT CONVEY ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGE AS FAR AS PARKING ON THE STREET.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OUR PARKING IS IS, YOU KNOW, OPEN.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT WOULD APPLY IN THIS CASE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND AS A REMINDER, I KNOW I ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE A LICENSE TO USE IS REVIEWED ONCE A YEAR.

OR DO I HAVE THAT WRONG.

NOT TYPICALLY.

WE REVIEW THE CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, IS BOUND TO AGREE BY DURING THE L2 PROCESS AND ANY BUILDING PERMITS THAT MAY COME AFTER THAT. YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, PROBABLY ELECTRICAL PERMITS ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED.

BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, COMPLYING IN ONE OF THE STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT WE NOTED IS THAT, YOU KNOW, NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE L-2 CONDITIONS ARE GROUNDS TO REVOKE THE L-2.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF NOT, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 24P-044.

ARE THERE ANYONE ON THIS SIDE OF THE AUDIENCE NOT AND WE'LL GET TO THE APPLICANT NEXT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS SIDE OF THE AUDIENCE? NO.

OKAY. THE APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROJECT, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DID SIGN IN. JASON JOHNSTON RESIDENT, 1522 BALL STREET.

SO, YEAH, DURING THE LAST MEETING LAST MONTH, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION ENDED UP, YOU KNOW, DENYING 4 TO 3 BASED ON, I THINK A COUPLE PEOPLE HAD SOME CERTAIN QUESTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST NEEDED MORE REASSURANCE ON.

AND THE MAIN THING IS, IS THAT I WANT TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING REPORTS, WHATEVER YOU GUYS REQUIRE.

BUT SO ONE OF THE THINGS WAS, IS THAT IT WOULD TECHNICALLY BE, YOU KNOW, LICENSED TO USE IN BETWEEN THE TREES, SO IT WOULDN'T HURT THE ROOT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING. MY ORIGINAL IDEA WAS TO CREATE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON A PEDESTAL.

AND THEN IT'S GOT A CHARGING DOCK TO IT AND STUFF.

SO ALL THE WIRES AND CABLES WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, GOING UNDER THE STREET, SO NOBODY WOULD SEE THAT.

NO TRIPPING HAZARD OR ANYTHING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND IF THE, THE STREET SIDEWALK GOT MESSED UP DURING THAT INSTALLATION, I WOULD OBVIOUSLY TAKE CARE OF THE COST AND GET THE CITY APPROVAL THROUGH YOU GUYS AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH WAS HAVING AN ENCASEMENT FOR THE CHARGER ITSELF AND FOR THE CABLE AND STUFF.

AND SO GOOD OLD AMAZON CAME THROUGH.

AND SO HERE'S A REALLY NICE ENCASEMENT.

YEAH. IF YOU JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH A FEW OF THOSE PICTURES, IT JUST KIND OF ILLUSTRATES THE ENCASEMENT AND CLOSURE.

WATERPROOF, COMBUSTIBLE PROOF HEAT VENTILATION, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TO HOOK UP THE ELECTRICAL THE ELECTRICITY ON THE BACK OF THE GARAGE, RUN IT UNDERNEATH, INSTALL, LIKE, A LITTLE ONE FOOT BY ONE FOOT CONCRETE BLOCK RIGHT THERE IN BETWEEN THE TREES.

AND THEN BUTTON THAT DOWN, PUT SOME SHRUBBERY AND STUFF IN FRONT OF IT SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE HIDDEN THAN THOSE HITCHING POSTS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MINE. SO THAT'S THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

AND TO ANSWER MR. SINGLETON'S QUESTION, THE GARAGE.

I DID TAKE THOSE MEASUREMENTS.

SO THE GARAGE LENGTH IS 14FT EIGHT INCHES AND THE WIDTH IS 15 FOOT NINE INCHES.

THE CAR IS ACTUALLY QUITE LARGE OR THE TRUCK, SO IT'S 18 FOOT LENGTH AND SEVEN FOOT THREE INCHES WIDE.

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SO I'M A LITTLE OVER THREE FEET HANGING OUT.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, IF I TRY TO PARK IN THE GARAGE, THE ALLEYWAYS ARE SO THIN AND SO NARROW, THEY WEREN'T REALLY BUILT FOR LARGER VEHICLES THAT ARE USED THESE DAYS.

SO IT KIND OF HANGS OUT AND THE VERY FIRST TIME I TRIED TO PULL IT IN, PEOPLE WERE ALREADY HONKING AT ME IN THE BACK AND EVERYTHING TO KIND OF GET OUT OF THE WAY AND STUFF.

SO TRYING TO COME UP WITH A REALLY NICE SOLUTION HERE.

AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY NICE, CLEAN CUT WAY TO DO IT.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

AND YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I'VE RAN INTO IS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PULL THE, THE TRUCK INTO THERE.

SINCE THE GARAGE DOESN'T CLOSE, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF GIVES DIRECT ACCESS TO MY HOUSE.

AND SO PREFER NOT ANYBODY TO BE WANDERING DOWN THOSE ALLEYWAYS WITH THAT SITUATION.

SO ANYWAYS, I'M JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A, WITH A GOOD SOLUTION THAT MAKES THE CITY HAPPY AND CAN SATISFY THE CHARGING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU FOR COMING IN THIS AFTERNOON.

IS THIS YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE? YES, SIR.

YEAH. AND WHAT WOULD BE YOUR WAY OF HANDLING A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A VEHICLE PARKED IN FRONT OF YOUR CHARGING STATION EVERY TIME YOU NEED TO USE IT? YEAH.

IT'S FUNNY YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE ARE IF I PARK IN THEIR SPOT, THEY GET PRETTY UPSET WITH ME AND TELL ME TO LEAVE.

SO IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN.

EVERYBODY'S PRETTY GOOD.

THERE'S TWO AIRBNB RENTALS, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY NEXT TO ME, THERE'S ANOTHER AIRBNB ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD, PLEASANT GUESTS, SO.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BOTHER THEM.

YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT MY WIFE'S CAR AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER SPARE CAR, SO IF I NEED TO USE IT.

SO BUT YEAH.

SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME.

I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU HAD AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER DO A LOAD SURVEY FROM YOUR BOX TO THAT AREA.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND THERE'S NO ISSUES.

AND YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO PRINT OUT AND DELIVER WHATEVER REPORTS ARE REQUIRED.

BUT THE LOAD SURVEY IS ALL GOOD FOR AN 80 AMP.

YEAH. AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE OTHER COMMISSION WAS TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THAT IS NOT A RESERVE.

YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT A RESERVE SPOT, EVEN I MEAN, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE WELCOME TO PARK THERE IF THEY'RE VISITING SOMEBODY ACROSS THE STREET AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO YOU COULDN'T REALLY ESTABLISH DOMINANCE OVER THAT? WE UNDERSTAND THAT, CORRECT? YEAH. BELIEVE ME, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND THEY MORE ESTABLISHED DOMINANCE OVER ME.

SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

RIGHT. I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE GOT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE CONCERNS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS WAS THAT YOU WOULD USE IT FOR COMMERCIAL USE, FOR CHARGING, LIKE FOR AN AIRBNB, BUT YOU'VE STATED THAT THIS IS FOR YOUR OWN PRIVATE USE, FOR YOUR OWN PRIVATE VEHICLE.

YES, MA'AM. IT'S PRIVATE, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH MY NEIGHBORS.

I KNOW THE LEFT. THE RIGHT THE PERSON AHEAD OF ME.

SO ACTUALLY, THE NEIGHBOR PICTURE, I WAS UP THERE.

HE ACTUALLY HAS A DRIVEWAY THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO MINE.

AND IT WOULD BE EASY IF I OWNED THAT DRIVEWAY.

I COULD JUST PULL IN THERE AND PUT THE CHARGING STATION ON THE HOUSE.

BUT ANYWAYS, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAPPY TO GIVE WHATEVER APPROVAL IS REQUIRED.

THEY'RE COMPLETELY FINE WITH IT, AND NEITHER ONE OF THEM LIVE FULL TIME IN THOSE HOMES.

SO THE ONLY PERSON THAT LIVES FULL TIME IS REALLY ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEY'RE PUTTING ALL THE NO PARKING SIGNS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES.

SO THERE'S IS WHICH I WOULDN'T EVEN DO THAT.

SO IT'S, IT WOULD BE FINE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ON THE OTHER, THE PICTURE YOU PASSED AROUND, HOW IS THAT BOX SECURED? DOES IT HAVE A KEY LOCK, A KEYPAD, OR.

YES. YEAH. YOU CAN DO CODE OR KEYPAD.

SO. YEAH.

SO IT WOULD BE THERE'S ACTUALLY IF YOU HAVE I GUESS IT DOESN'T SHOW.

IT DOESN'T SHOW THE ACTUAL KEYPAD.

BUT IT DOES SHOW ALL THE DIMENSIONS AND JUST KIND OF THE INSIDES OF THE BOX AND EVERYTHING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THAT'S THE MAIN THING IS THAT YOU CAN SECURE THE BOX.

I CAN SECURE IT. YES.

AND THAT WAS THAT WAS A PREVIOUS CONCERN.

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YOU KNOW, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO ADDRESS THAT HERE FOR YOU GUYS.

THIS PICTURE, IT SAYS 28.5IN.

BUT IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDING FOUR FEET FROM THE TREE OR.

AT LEAST FOUR FEET FROM THE TREE OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

WHICH IS FINE. THERE'S TWO TREES THERE.

AND SO THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION AS WELL AS AND SO I'M HAPPY TO JUST PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE TO WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE TREES ARE FAR ENOUGH APART TO WHERE IT SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT ANYTHING.

AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A SQUARE CONCRETE BLOCK.

OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU.

ONE MORE THING. I WAS MEANING TO ASK IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS.

THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.

DID YOU MEET WITH THE CONCERNED PEOPLE THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT? AND DID THEY GIVE YOU A KIND OF A SEAL OF APPROVAL FOR DOING THIS, BASED UPON WHAT HAPPENED IN SILK STOCKING? I DIDN'T KNOW. I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE ANY CONCERNS OF THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.

WELL, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE ARE OR NOT.

IT'S JUST. DID YOU DID YOU APPROACH THE EASTON HISTORIC DISTRICT? IT'S A BOARD. ISN'T IT A BOARD OF DIRECTORS? IT'S A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.

COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION? OKAY. YEAH. DID YOU MAKE ANY INPUT? I HAVEN'T, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE PROCESS.

IT'S MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS PROCESS, SO I KNOW I MET WITH THE COMMISSION LAST TIME, AND THEN MEETING WITH YOU GUYS THIS TIME.

I WAS UNSURE.

I FIGURED THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY AT SOME POINT, SO I DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF I GOT APPROVAL HERE, IF THAT'S THE NEXT STEP TO APPROACH THEM OR I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THE PROCESS.

AND YEAH, I DEFER TO MY EAST END FRIENDS TO KIND OF GIVE ME SOME INSPIRATION ON THAT.

SURE. SO THE EAST END, THERE'S THE EAST END HISTORIC DISTRICT ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT'S JUST LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT YOU INTERACT WITH THEM.

YOU COULD MEET WITH THEM, IF YOU CARE TO, TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS.

BUT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.

THERE'S THE LANDMARK COMMISSION THAT'S THE REVIEW BODY FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

AND THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN TO THAT BOARD, AND THEY DIDN'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND. THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

THERE WAS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL THAT PASSED THAT DIDN'T PASS, THAT FAILED DUE TO A LACK OF FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

BUT THERE WAS NOT A FOLLOW UP MOTION FOR DENIAL.

SO THE ACTION THERE WAS THAT THE MOTION FAILED.

YEAH. AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE THE 4 TO 3 AND ON ON THE VOTE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST I FEEL LIKE THEY JUST WANTED TO SEE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND BE MORE SECURE.

YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE CORD, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S HIGH WINDS AND YOU KNOW, IT LET LOOSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO ALL VALID POINTS, RIGHT, SO I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND IT.

THEY DIDN'T REALLY FULLY REALIZE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE GARAGE.

YOU KNOW, I, I TOLD THEM THAT THE CAR STUCK OUT THREE FEET.

BUT HE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, HEAR, SEE MEASUREMENTS, YOU KNOW SO IT'S JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO JUST WANTED TO SOLVE ALL THOSE ISSUES FOR YOU GUYS AND, PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT BOTH PARTIES WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED FROM THE BEGINNING.

FOR TIM, WOULD HE HAVE TO BORE THE SIDEWALK OR COULD HE CUT IT? WELL, THOSE ARE HISTORIC SIDEWALKS.

WE'D PREFER THE BORE.

CAN THAT BE A CONDITION? YES, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN BE A CONDITION.

YEAH. AND THAT'S THE PLAN.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING IN THE BACK WAS, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE GARAGE HERE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SPACE.

YOU GOT 42, ALMOST 43FT ACROSS.

AND THEN THE GARAGE LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT 20FT.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME SPACE THERE.

IS THAT NOT AVAILABLE FOR THIS SORT OF THING? NO. SO THE ACTUAL GARAGE LENGTH, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS 20.

I MEASURED OUT 14 FOOT, EIGHT INCHES.

WHAT THAT DOESN'T SHOW YOU IS INSIDE THE GARAGE, THERE'S A STAIRWELL GOING UP TO THE GARAGE APARTMENT.

SO NEXT TO THE GARAGE, THOUGH, THERE'S A SPACE HERE.

OH, NO, THAT'S A BACKYARD WITH A MASSIVE OAK TREE.

AND, YEAH, IT'S A 150 YEAR OLD OAK TREE.

YEP. AND THEN DO WE KNOW HOW FAR BETWEEN THE TREES ARE? I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO DO FOUR FEET, IS IT GOING TO BE WITHIN FOUR FEET OF THE OTHER TREE? I MEAN, IS THERE EIGHT FEET BETWEEN THOSE? I DON'T KNOW THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TREES, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE MORE THAN EIGHT FEET.

OKAY, THAT'S DEFINITELY MORE.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT MEASUREMENT.

I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP, BUT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE LIKE 20FT.

IT'S DEFINITELY MORE THAN EIGHT FEET.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NOPE. OKAY.

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SO I GUESS WE'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR 20 4-044 AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

I NEED A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE 24 044 WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY. SECOND.

OKAY. SO ANY DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I DID SEE SOME SOME PUBLIC COMMENT FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FIRE RISK AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

OBVIOUSLY WE PUT ONE IN THE IT WAS AT THE LOST BAYOU OR SILK STOCKING DISTRICT.

ARE WE ALLOWED ONE? I YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T I THINK THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO THINK OF ALTERNATIVES.

I DON'T REALLY LIKE IT ON THE STREET, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU COULD DO, BUT THAT'S.

THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. WELL, I'M KIND OF SHARING WHAT YOU SAID.

GIVEN WHAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION VOTED, IT KIND OF SWAYS ME THAT DIRECTION.

BUT IT IS HIS PROPERTY HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO.

AND HIS AND HIS VEHICLE, HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SOME ALTERNATIVE MEANS TO MAKE IT ALL WORK.

BUT THE 19TH CENTURY NEIGHBORHOOD GETTING A 21ST CENTURY CHARGER STUCK ON THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

THAT A, B, A PRECEDENCE WAS SET WITH THE SILK-STOCKING DISTRICT AND ON AVENUE M, SO IT'S KIND OF I'M KIND OF TORN. I KNOW HOW MUCH PEOPLE WANT TO HOLD ON AND HOW MUCH THEY RESPECT THE HISTORICAL DISTRICTS AND THEIR VIEWS ON THAT. SEEING THAT THE ONLY OPPOSITION WAS APPEARED TO BE ON THE HAZARD SIDE VERSUS ON THE APPEARANCE SIDE.

DO WE WANT TO START GOING TO.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LTUS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH OTHER THINGS LIKE THE FLOCK CAMERA BEING FOR A PARTICULAR ENTITY.

AND THEN IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT IN THE BACK WITH HIS ALLEY? THERE COULD BE.

I MEAN CAN WE ASK AN APPLICANT A QUESTION? APPLICANT COME BACK UP FOR ANSWERING A QUESTION, PLEASE.

OKAY. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE FROM WHATEVER? FROM NOTHING TO FULL CHARGE, 10.5 HOURS.

10.5 HOURS. LEVEL TWO.

YES, SIR. BUT THAT WOULD BE NOTHING.

SO YOU WOULDN'T COME HOME WITH NOTHING.

YOU TYPICALLY COME HOME WITH WHAT PERCENTAGE? WELL, I DO A LOT OF WORK IN HOUSTON, SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY ISSUE IS DRIVING TO HOUSTON AND THEN COMING BACK.

IT'S GOT TO CHARGE OVERNIGHT.

AND SO LEAVING THE GARAGE OPEN AND DIRECT ACCESS TO MY BACKYARD AND FAMILY AND THEN NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE THEM TO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND STUFF. IT'S HAPPENED ALREADY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE CHARGING STATION TO WHERE LIKE I HAD MEETINGS TO GO TO.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT SPECIFIC OCCASION JUST SLIPPED MY MIND TO TAKE IT TO COMMERCIAL CHARGING STATION AND CHARGE IT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO MISS MEETINGS AND SCHOOL AND YEAH, IT'S KIND OF NOT THE BEST SITUATION.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION YOU KNOW, I'M AN ENGINEER BY TRADE, AND I'VE EVALUATED EVERY SITUATION AND WHERE I COULD DO IT.

AND MY BEST CASE TO GET APPROVED.

THIS IS DEFINITELY THE BEST, BEST CASE.

AND THERE ARE NO OTHER ALTERNATIVES UNLESS YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE CAN FIND ONE.

BUT I'VE GOTTEN WITH MY CONTRACTORS, ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS, ETC., AND WE FORMULATED THIS PLAN TOGETHER.

SO WE, WE DO FEEL IT'S THE BEST PROPOSAL.

AND THE THING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OUT THERE LIKE A SORE THUMB, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO PUT BUSHES AROUND IT.

I'M GOING TO PUT GREENERY, SHRUBBERY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO I MEAN, YOU WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO SEE IT BESIDES JUST LOCKING IN AND PLUGGING IN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE FEET AWAY.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS YOU TALK ABOUT PRECEDENTS AND STUFF, I MEAN, THE LAST APPLICANT WAS, WHAT, SEVEN YEARS AGO? SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMMON OCCURRENCE.

RIGHT. IF ON THE SECOND ONE IN THE HISTORY OF GALVESTON.

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SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU.

NO, THANKS. OKAY.

I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS.

I THINK I SAW IN THE RESPONSES TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL SAID, REFERENCING THE AVENUE M, THAT IT WAS NEVER INSTALLED.

SO I DROVE BY.

I THINK DANIEL HAD THE PICTURE UP EARLIER.

I DROVE BY TO SEE IN THE FIRST TIME I WAS GOING DOWN M, AND I MISSED IT, AND I HAD TO TURN BACK AND GO DOWN 23RD OR 24TH STREET BEFORE I SPOTTED IT AND HAD TO ASSUME THAT IT'S IN THAT BOX THERE.

IS THAT CORRECT, DANIEL? YES, THAT IS ACTUALLY THAT IS ACTUALLY IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT COULD CONSIDER A DIFFERENT TYPE OF STATION.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOWER TO THE GROUND IN SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR.

BUT I THINK LANDSCAPING CAN HELP TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ISSUE.

I MEAN, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA.

YOU KNOW, YOU HATE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS GO IN.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT MAY ARISE.

IF THERE ARE PEOPLE ARE OPPOSED TO IT, THEY MAY INTENTIONALLY ROTATE THEIR VEHICLES, KEEPING THEIR VEHICLES IN FRONT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT, I THINK NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF.

AND WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

BUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S STATED THAT THIS IS HIS PRIMARY RESIDENCE AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE, THAT OVERRULES ALL MY OTHER CONCERNS.

SO I'VE GOT TO SUPPORT IT.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

ITEM 24-044.

WE NEED TO VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY. AND THOSE OPPOSED ABSTAIN.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE I THINK THE MOTION PASSES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO, CATHERINE, YOU WILL CONTACT THE.

Y'ALL WILL CONTACT THEM. YES, YES.

WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE LICENSE TO USE AGREEMENT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS 24P-042.

[5.B.1. 24P-042 (101 14th Street, 1405-1415 Harborside Drive) Request For A Planned Unit Development (PUD) Overlay District For A “Restaurant, Drive-In/Through”, “Parking Lot, Commercial Surface Parking Area”, And “Electric Vehicle Charging Station”. Properties Are Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, Lots 4, 5, 6, And The North 70 Feet Of Lot 7 (7-1), Block 674, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Michael Gaertner Property Owner: Christopher And Kathleen Frederickson]

THIS IS 101 14TH STREET, 1405 TO 31415 HARBORSIDE DRIVE.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT'S A REQUEST FOR A PLANNED UNIT.

DEVELOPMENT OF A PUD FOR A RESTAURANT, DRIVE THRU PARKING LOT, COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING AREA AND ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DEFERRED THIS REQUEST AT THE DECEMBER 3RD, 2024 MEETING AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT, AND JUST YESTERDAY, WE UPDATED THE STAFF REPORT TO REFLECT A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP ON THE SUBJECT SITE FROM CHRISTOPHER AND KATHLEEN FREDRICKSON TO GTP SYSTEMS LLC.

SO THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED TODAY REFLECTS THAT.

PUBLIC NOTICES SENT WERE 19 FOUR RETURNED, THREE IN OPPOSITION AND ONE NO COMMENT.

THE CITY DEPARTMENTS.

THERE WAS NO OBJECTION WITH COMMENTS FROM FIRE MARSHAL AND PUBLIC WORKS.

NO OBJECTION FROM PRIVATE UTILITIES.

THIS REQUEST WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED UNDER CASE 24, P037, WHICH WAS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2024.

THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE RESUBMITTED THE DIFFERENCES FROM THE PREVIOUS CASE TO THE CURRENT CASE ARE ADDED.

THE LAND USE OF PARKING LOT COMMERCIAL SERVICE PARKING AREA ADDED A REQUEST TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIRED VISUAL SCREENING FROM RESIDENTIAL USES, AND REMOVED THE REQUEST TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING ALONG HARBORSIDE DRIVE.

SO SUMMARY. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PUD TO ESTABLISH RESTAURANT, DRIVE THROUGH PARKING LOT, COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING AREA AND ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION. LAND USES IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT.

THE PURPOSE OF THE PUD IS TO ALLOW FOR THOSE LAND USES WHICH RESTAURANT AND PARKING LOT WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT, TO DEVIATE FROM THE MINIMUM DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STIPULATED BY SECTION 2.326.5 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION LAND USE SHALL BE LOCATED AT LEAST 200FT FROM RESIDENTIAL USE OR RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

DISTRICT BOUNDARY.

THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES AT 107 AND 111 14TH STREET.

REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FROM 8 TO 7.

ELIMINATION OF THE VISUAL SCREENING FROM RESIDENTIAL USES.

REQUIREMENT AND ELIMINATION OF THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED PUD REQUEST DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.

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THE USES AND CHARACTER OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PROPOSED ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPERTIES IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THE SUBJECT.

PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT SHOULD BE DENSE, MIXED USE, AND ORIENTED TO THE PEDESTRIAN.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CAR CENTRIC WITH A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT.

ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION AND COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.

PLEASE NOTE THE REST OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL, BUT WE ARE PROVIDING SOME CONDITIONS.

SHOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIND THAT THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL ARE MET, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS MAY BE APPROPRIATE.

WE HAVE CONDITIONS SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH NINE AND THEN STANDARD CONDITIONS TEN THROUGH 13.

CITY COUNCIL HAS FINAL DECISION REGARDING PUD REQUESTS AND COUNCIL WILL HEAR THIS REQUEST ON JANUARY 23RD, 2025.

AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY AT 101 14TH STREET.

THESE ARE THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON HARBORSIDE AT 1405 THROUGH 1415.

ANOTHER PICTURE OF THOSE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND ONE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

AND PROPERTIES TO THE NORTHEAST AND GOT MYSELF LOST.

LET'S SEE THOSE I THINK ARE SOUTH.

AND THEN THEN WE HAVE WEST, WHICH IS THE JEAN LAFITTE SITE.

AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

THANK YOU. CATHERINE. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

OH, WAIT. SORRY, SORRY.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FIRST.

SO. YEAH.

SO THE MAIN CRITERIA THAT THE STAFF IS LOOKING AT HERE.

YEAH. IT'S ON. OH ARE THE PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES OF THE RESTAURANT DRIVE IN AND DRIVE THROUGH AND PARKING LOT, COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING LOT. ARE THOSE ARE THE MAIN TWO? RIGHT. SO THOSE THAT'S THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT IS TO, TO ALLOW FOR THOSE TWO LANDS USES WHICH ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, IN THE ZONING DISTRICT.

AND THEN THE OTHER, THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE THE IT'S WITHIN 200FT OF TWO RESIDENCES.

RIGHT. SO VEHICLE CHARGING STATION SHOULD BE WITHIN 200FT OF RESIDENTIAL, SHOULD NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 200FT OF RESIDENTIAL.

AND THERE'S RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY ADJACENT ALONG 14TH STREET.

AND THEN WITHIN 200FT, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

OKAY. AND IS THE TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, IS THE APPLICANT STILL THINKING ABOUT TEARING DOWN THOSE EXISTING STRUCTURES OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE SALVAGED MATERIAL? THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE EXPLORED SALVAGE WITH THE GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION, AND THAT BOTH PARTIES FOUND THAT THEY WEREN'T SALVAGEABLE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

I THINK TOM HAS A QUESTION.

SO I NOTE THAT THE 200FT RESTRICTION ON THE CHARGING STATIONS IS THAT FOR COMMERCIAL CHARGING STATIONS OR FOR ALL CHARGING STATIONS, THAT'S FOR A VEHICLE CHARGING STATION. SO IT WOULD BE LIKE A COMPLEX OF CHARGING STATIONS.

GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 24P-042.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN FOR US, PLEASE? MY NAME IS MICHAEL GERTNER.

SO I GUESS THE FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS THE IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I'M SURE CATHERINE WILL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT THE IN PREPARING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATIONS OF THE CONSIDERATION OF THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE NOT NECESSARILY TAKEN INTO VIEW.

SO WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TALKS ABOUT PROMOTING THE USE OF ELECTRICAL VEHICLES AND SUCH AS THAT.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER FACTORS.

THOSE ARE NOT CONSIDERATIONS THAT PLANNING STAFF TOOK INTO ACCOUNT, BUT CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HOPE YOU WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IN CONSIDERING THIS CASE, SINCE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND THE NEW ZONING MAP WAS ADOPTED IN 2015, THIS AREA HAS UNDERGONE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. IT'S NOT THE WAY IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO.

THERE'S A CRUISE SHIP TERMINAL ACROSS THE STREET.

THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY PARKING LOTS.

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IT HAS PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH, HAS PARKING LOT TO THE EAST AND HAS PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE JEAN LAFITTE IS TO THE WEST OF IT.

THE CARETAKERS OF THE JEAN LAFITTE CAME TO PREVIOUS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING.

WE'VE MET WITH THEM AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE SATISFIED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISTURB THE ARCHEOLOGY OF THAT SITE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING ANY UNDERGROUND EXCAVATION.

SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY LOSS OF ARCHEOLOGICAL MATTER INVOLVED IN THIS CASE.

AND WE'LL DO A GREEN WALL TO SEPARATE THIS PROPERTY FROM THEIR PROPERTY.

WE ARE WE ARE WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PARKING LOT ON THIS SITE THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE TWO RESIDENCES.

THAT PARKING LOT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE 1980S.

THIS THE CORNER PROPERTY 101 USED TO BE LEON'S BARBECUE BEFORE IT WAS PURCHASED BY THE FREDRICKSON'S, AND THEY'VE USED IT AS A SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH FACILITY EVER SINCE THEN.

SO THAT SO LOOKING FOR THE PARKING LOT.

SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A HUGE CHANGE FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

THEY HAD A PARKING LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR FENCE THERE.

THEY WOULD, IF THIS IS APPROVED, STILL HAVE A PARKING LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR FENCE.

THERE'S BEEN THERE WAS A OBJECTION THAT WAS RAISED REGARDING THE SAFETY OF THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ELECTRICAL VEHICLES ARE MUCH MORE SAFE THAN INTERNAL COMBUSTION VEHICLES.

INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE VEHICLES HAVE ABOUT 1500 FIRES FOR EVERY 100,000 VEHICLES.

ELECTRIC VEHICLES HAVE 25 PER 100,000.

SO IT'S A CONSIDERABLY SMALLER AMOUNT.

I JUST DID A LITTLE BIT OF LOOKING AROUND.

I USE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION TO GET STATISTICS.

COOKING FIRES ARE FROM KITCHENS ARE MUCH MORE OF A CONCERN.

THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE ACTUALLY MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE PARKING LOT.

THERE WAS THERE'S AN AVERAGE OF 164,000 COOKING FIRES PER YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES.

THAT'S. YOU HAVE A 1 IN 700 CHANCE OF A COOKING FIRE.

YOU HAVE A 1 IN 1700 CHANCE OF AN AUTOMOBILE, A GAS POWERED AUTOMOBILE CATCHING ON FIRE, AND A 1 IN 4000 CHANCE OF AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CATCHING ON FIRE.

SO STATISTICALLY, COOKING, HEATING, ELECTRICAL, AIR CONDITIONING, SMOKING, ARSON INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES, CANDLES AND OUTDOOR COOKING ARE YOUR TOP EIGHT REASONS FOR FIRE WITH ELECTRICAL, VEHICLE CHARGING OR ELECTRICAL VEHICLES BEING LESS THAN 1% CHANCE OF CAUSING A FIRE IN A RESIDENCE.

I THINK THAT THIS DOES DO A GREAT SERVICE IN TERMS OF PROVIDING MEETING, A NEED FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO GALVESTON.

I THINK THAT THE THAT THE TEA SHOP WILL PROVIDE A SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE A DRAW.

OVERALL, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT, WORTHWHILE NOT JUST FOR THE CITY, BUT FOR THE PORT AND THE TOURISTS WHO ARE COMING TO GALVESTON.

WE WILL.

WE ORIGINALLY WERE NOT PLANNING ON DOING A LOT OF LANDSCAPING ALONG HARBORSIDE BECAUSE THERE'S A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF SPACE DUE TO THE WIDTH OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT WE HAVE REDUCED SOME.

WE'VE TAKEN OUT SOME PARKING PLACES IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE LANDSCAPING STRIP ALONG HARBORSIDE DRIVE.

AND WITH THOSE THINGS BEING SAID, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT.

OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? TOM. SO YOU SAID YOU REMOVED SOME PARKING SPACES.

IS THAT THE ONE RIGHT THERE ALONG HARBORSIDE, WHERE THEY'RE IN AN ANGLE? NO. WE REMOVED SOME PARKING SPACES NEXT TO THE ALLEY IN ORDER TO SQUEEZE THE PARKING LOT DOWN AND MAKE ROOM FOR LANDSCAPING.

GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY ON HARBORSIDE DRIVE, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE DRIVEWAY.

GOING IN, SERVICING.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOME APARTMENTS.

DUPLEX APARTMENTS RIGHT THERE.

NO, THE DRIVEWAY SERVICED THE RESEARCH LAB THAT WAS THERE.

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AND BEFORE THAT, THE RESTAURANT.

SO THE DRIVEWAY HAS BEEN THERE FOR AS LONG AS THE RESTAURANT WAS THERE BEFORE THE FREDERICKSON'S BOUGHT THE BUILDING.

WE'RE JUST GOING BY THERE.

I SEE THE DRIVEWAY.

OKAY. I'VE BEEN THERE BY THERE 3 OR 4 TIMES DIFFERENT TIMES A DAY.

I'VE SEEN TWO TRUCKS PARKED IN THERE AND THAT'S IT.

SO IT DOESN'T GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT DRIVEWAY.

WELL, THE, THE THERE'S NOTHING ON THE SITE THAT'S BEING USED ANYMORE.

OKAY. SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TRUCKS THE TRUCKS ARE DOING THERE.

WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE ARE LIVING UPSTAIRS.

NO, THE FREDERICKSON'S DON'T LIVE THERE.

THEY HAVE A HOUSE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THEY. YEAH.

NO, THERE'S NO RESEARCH THAT'S GOING ON IN THAT FACILITY.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT I KNOW OF GOING ON OVER THERE.

SO YOU PLAN ON KEEPING AN EXISTING ENTRANCE FROM HARBORSIDE DRIVE? MOST LIKELY, YES.

THAT'S WHAT YOUR PLAN SHOWS.

LET ME QUALIFY THAT AND SAY THAT ONE OF THE STEPS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH IS ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE APPROVED BY TXDOT, BECAUSE THAT'S A STATE HIGHWAY.

SO, YOU KNOW TXDOT COULD COME BACK.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WILL BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO THEM.

BUT TXDOT COULD COME BACK AND SAY, NO, YOU GOT TO PUT THAT DRIVEWAY IN THERE.

YEAH. WELL, I NOTICED THE DIRECTOR HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THAT, THAT HE'S NOT HE'S KIND OF HE HAS CONCERNS ABOUT LEFT TURN LANE PEOPLE TURNING LEFT OFF. HARBORSIDE TRYING TO GET IN THERE.

ALSO JUST THE CONCERN OF CONGESTION IN TRAFFIC UPCOMING.

WE'VE GOT ANOTHER PIER COMING IN.

I KNOW PEOPLE THAT LEAVE THE FERRY ROAD THAT LEAVE THE FERRY, AND THEY UTILIZE THAT AS THEIR COMMUTING ROAD.

HARBORSIDE. SO THAT'S BOTH GOING AND COMING.

SO I JUST HAVE A REAL BIG CONCERN WITH HAVING A COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE ONLY COMMERCIAL INTEREST ON HARBORSIDE DRIVE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.

YEAH, BUT IT'S TAKING CARS OFF OF HARBORSIDE DRIVE, NOT PUTTING THEM ON.

SO LET ME ADDRESS YOUR FIRST CONCERN IN THAT WE WOULD NOT WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE A PEOPLE WHO ARE WEST BOUND.

WE WOULD NOT WANT THEM.

THERE'S NO TURN LANE THERE.

SO, THERE'S NO THEY'VE GOT NO BUSINESS TURNING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS DRIVEWAY.

SO WE CAN EITHER DO, WE CAN IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM IMMEDIATELY, WE CAN PUT UP TRAFFIC CONES AND THEN WORK WITH TXDOT TO GET A SOFT BARRIER PUT IN PLACE TO PREVENT LEFT TURNS FROM THAT LANE.

AGAIN, IT'S A TEX DOT.

IT'S A TXDOT THING, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL LOCALLY, BUT IT WOULD NOT.

IT WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING TRAFFIC PATTERNS FOR PEOPLE WESTBOUND TO TURN LEFT INTO THIS AREA.

SO WE THINK I MEAN, WE THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD WISE UP AND CIRCLE THE BLOCK IF THEY WANTED TO COME.

YEAH. BUT THE WEST SIDE WESTBOUND.

I'M SORRY, THE EASTBOUND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PULL INTO THIS WILL CREATE CONGESTION IN THAT RIGHT LANE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE TRACTOR TRAILERS AND EVERYTHING THAT USE THE LEFT LANE A LOT, PRIMARILY TO GET TOWARD THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE DOCKS. SO IT JUST IT JUST SMELLS OF A LOT OF CONGESTION RIGHT THERE, POTENTIALLY COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT HARBORSIDE CAN HANDLE AND DOES HANDLE.

THIS IS INFINITESIMAL.

IT'S LIKE LESS LIKE.

IT'S NEGLIGIBLE.

IT'S 3% OF THE TRAFFIC ON 14TH STREET.

AND FAR LESS THAN 1% OF THE TRAFFIC ON HARBORSIDE DRIVE.

IT'S JUST IT'S 3% OF WHAT NUMBER AGAIN.

OF THE TRAFFIC THE CAPACITY OF 14TH STREET.

WHAT IS 3% OF THE TRAFFIC? THE LANE.

NO, THE CAPACITY OF THE STREET.

TRAFFIC CAPACITY.

YEAH. SO I, I MAY HAVE THIS WRONG.

MY RECOLLECTION I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THE CAPACITY AT 14TH AND HARBORSIDE IS 2500 CARS AN HOUR.

SO THIS IS LESS THAN 3% OF THAT.

IT'S ABOUT THE RESTAURANT IS ANTICIPATED TO GENERATE 330 TRIPS PER DAY USING THE ITE STANDARDS, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY WANTS US TO USE.

SO WHEN YOU'VE GOT 2500 CARS AN HOUR COMPARED TO 330 TRIPS A DAY, IT'S A PRETTY SMALL NUMBER.

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OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? OTHER THAN THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.

EVERY PARKING SPACE HAS A CHARGING STATION, CORRECT? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO SET THEM UP, I THINK, MORE THAN LIKELY SO THAT THERE'S A CHARGING STATION WITH TWO PLUGS ON EACH STATION. SO THEY WOULD BE SHARED BETWEEN TWO SPACES.

BUT IS THE IDEA TO RESTRICT THE PARKING TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES ONLY, OR CAN GASOLINE VEHICLES COME THERE AND PARK? THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC.

SO IT'S IT WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY UNLIKELY SCENARIO THAT A GAS POWERED VEHICLE WOULD PARK THERE.

SO BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO RESERVE IT AND YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE CHARGING.

SO IF YOU WOULD BE PAYING TO MAKE A RESERVATION AND PARK IN A PLACE THAT YOU CAN'T USE THE CHARGING, WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR.

SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY UNLIKELY.

I SUPPOSE IT COULD HAPPEN.

I GUESS WHAT'S CONFUSING TO ME ABOUT ALL THIS IS THAT IT WAS DENIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND CHANGES WERE MADE AND THE CHANGES, IN MY VIEW, MY PERSONAL VIEW IS THAT MADE THE APPLICATION WORSE THAN THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WHEN IT WAS SUBMITTED.

SO TO ME THIS LOOKS LIKE IT IS A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.

YES. IS THIS LONG TERM OR SHORT TERM? WHAT'S THE IDEA? BOTH LONG TERM AND SHORT TERM? THERE WILL BE. AND IS IT TARGETED TO PEOPLE WHO USE THE CRUISE TERMINALS OR TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC? PEOPLE WHO USE THE CRUISE SHIP TERMINALS.

OKAY. BUT ANYONE CAN USE IT.

BUT THAT'S THE TARGET.

OKAY. YEAH.

IT'S JUST REALLY, REALLY CONFUSING.

AND SO THE MAIN THING THAT CITY COUNCIL WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THAT THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF COMMERCIAL PARKING WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION.

I THINK THAT WAS THE MAIN CONSIDERATION.

BUT THAT PARKING LOT, COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING AREA IS NOT PERMITTED IN CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. SO I MEAN, I SEE THE CONFLICT.

YOU'VE GOT A PARKING LOT, YOU HAVE AN ELECTRICAL CHARGING STATION WHICH NEEDS PARKING, SO YOU NEED TO HAVE A PARKING LOT.

BUT THE PARKING LOT ITSELF IS NOT PERMITTED IN THE ZONE.

SO THIS IS THAT'S THE CONFLICT THAT I SEE.

SO I'M JUST KEEP WONDERING WHY THE APPLICANT DOESN'T MAKE A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

LIKE WE JUST CHANGED ZONING FOR ROSENBERG SCHOOL SO THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THAT PROPERTY.

SURE. WELL, THERE'S THE WE WERE GUIDED BY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE WHEN YOU CHANGE THE ZONING, WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO INDUSTRIAL ZONING. AND THEN THAT OPENS UP A HUGE ARRAY OF USES.

ONCE YOU'VE CHANGED THE ZONING, IT'S CHANGED FOREVER.

AND IT'S CHANGED FOR ANYBODY WHO MIGHT COME ALONG AND DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT CONVERSATION WITH RESTAURANTS AND OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES.

IF THE ZONING, IF, I MEAN, THAT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED IS CHANGING THE ZONING.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS HELIPORTS, BUT ISN'T ACROSS THE STREET JUST A COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S NOT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HARBORSIDE, I THINK THERE'S SOME THAT'S COMMERCIAL AND THERE'S SOME THAT'S INDUSTRIAL.

I THINK CLOSE TO, IF I REMEMBER THE ZONING MAP CORRECTLY, CLOSER TO HARBORSIDE DRIVE, IT'S COMMERCIAL AND THEN IT SWITCHES TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL WOULD GIVE THE APPLICANT THE PARAMETERS TO DO WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO.

AGAIN, WE WERE GUIDED TO PURSUE THIS APPROACH BECAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL CAN PUT WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS ON IT THEY WANT IN A CHANGE OF ZONING.

THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAPS.

IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE THERE IS A PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE AND YOU GUYS AREN'T TAKING IT.

BUT OKAY.

SO IT'S LONG TERM.

IT'S SHORT TERM.

IT'S TARGETED TO A PARTICULAR AUDIENCE, NOT THE GENERAL PUBLIC REALLY? YEAH. I'M JUST IT'S A IT'S A CONFUSING APPLICATION FOR ME, I THINK.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, THAT'S THE FUTURE.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF THINGS WITH ALL THESE CRUISE SHIP PASSENGERS THAT ARE COMING TOGETHER.

AND YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN ABOUT THE CHANGES ON THAT PART OF TOWN IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.

IT'S IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYTHING.

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LIKE, IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN I USED TO OWN PROPERTY OVER THERE.

WHO COULD AFFORD IT? IT WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FORESEEING THAT WE WOULD BE HERE DISCUSSING THIS TODAY.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH.

YEAH. WE USED TO HAVE BANANA BOATS, SO, YOU KNOW.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL.

I'M JUST CONFUSED.

COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS ABOUT THE ZONING.

SO IF THEY CHANGED TO COMMERCIAL, THEN THAT THE PARKING LOT IS STILL NOT PERMITTED, AND THAT PARKING LOT IS WHAT IS THE PARKING LOT? LAND USE IS WHAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THE LONG TERM CRUISE SHIP PARKING.

IS THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS REALLY INTENDED TO JUST BE SHORT TERM CHARGING AND NOT TO LEAVE IT THERE FOR DAYS.

ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, SOUTH AND WEST ARE ZONED CENTRAL BUSINESS.

AND THEN ACROSS HARBORSIDE IS ZONED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

NO. DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY.

IT'S STILL CENTRAL BUSINESS.

ONE BLOCK LATER, ON 13TH STREET, IT BECOMES COMMERCIAL AND ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH.

IT'S COMMERCIAL. BUT COMMERCIAL DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE PARKING, SO A ZONING CHANGE WOULDN'T SOLVE ALL THEIR PROBLEMS. OKAY. AND I WOULD ALSO ADD TO THAT THAT WITH THE DEGREE OF CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HARBORSIDE, THAT THE CITY YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG TERM WILL POTENTIALLY INCREASE ITS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ZONING.

IN FACT, IT MAY MOVE FURTHER EAST AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD REALLY BEHOOVE YOU KNOW, ANY RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ACTUALLY, WE'RE MOVING TOWARD RATHER THAN AWAY FROM.

OKAY. SO ONE MORE THING.

YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK LISTED IN FRONT OF IT ON THE 14TH STREET SIDE.

THIS IS FOR THE PARKING IS FOR CRUISE SHIP.

PEOPLE, PERSONNEL OR PEOPLE GOING ON TO THE CRUISE SHIP.

THERE'S NOT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING GOING ACROSS HARBORSIDE DRIVE THERE. REQUIRED BY ENGINEERING TO PUT THE SIDEWALK THERE REGARDLESS.

OKAY. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT THERE IS NOT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING GOING ACROSS HARBORSIDE.

AND DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A MEANS THAT HE'S GOING TO BE PROVIDING TO GET THEM ACROSS IN A VEHICLE? YES. VERY WELL.

QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NOPE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING FORWARD.

NEXT WE WILL OPEN FOR IF ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? IF NOT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 24P-042.

WE BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO DENY 24P.042 AS IT'S WRITTEN.

I'LL SECOND. COMMISSIONERS, HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. IF NOT, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE.

ALL OF THOSE THAT APPROVED DENIAL OF 24P-042.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

LET ME NOTE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION REGARDING PUD REQUESTS.

AND IT WILL BE HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 23RD.

OKAY. NEXT, WE MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

[6.A.1. 24P-045 (2018 60th Street) Request To Revoke A Planned Unit Development (PUD) Approved Under Ordinance 22-065. Property Is Legally Described As Lot 8R, Of Two West, In The City And County Of Galveston Texas. Applicant: Development Services Department Property Owner: Tricon Enterprises, Inc.]

WE HAVE ITEM 24P-045.

THIS IS 2018 60TH STREET.

IT'S A REQUEST TO REVOKE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, A PUD APPROVED UNDER ORDINANCE 22065.

PUBLIC NOTICES SENT WERE 22 RETURNED, ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE NO COMMENT.

NO OBJECTION FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS OR PRIVATE UTILITIES.

IN 2022, CHARLES ADDISON SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR AN OFFICE LAND USE ON A PROPERTY ZONED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY R1.

THIS REQUEST WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2022 UNDER ORDINANCE 22-065.

THAT INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.

A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE PROJECT SHALL BE ISSUED NO LATER THAN 24 MONTHS FROM THE DATE.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AND SHALL PROCEED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDINANCE 20008.

TO DATE, NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS REASON AS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF IS INITIATING THE REVOCATION OF THE PUD, THE OWNER HAS BEEN INFORMED OF THE REVOCATION PROCESS.

PLEASE NOTE CRITERIA FOR REVOKING A PUD IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.