OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME EVERYONE TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.
[Landmark Commission on December 17, 2024.]
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TODAY IS MONDAY, DECEMBER 16TH AND THE TIME IS 4:00.WE WILL START OUR MEETING OFF WITH ATTENDANCE.
THANK YOU, AND IF I COULD JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW MEMBER, ALYSON SMITH.
SHE'S BEEN APPOINTED JUST LAST WEEK, SO SHE'S FRESHLY APPOINTED AS AN ALTERNATE, AND I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT CHAIRPERSON LEWIS HAS ARRIVED.
YES. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF THE CASES TODAY? NO. OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
DID EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM OUR DECEMBER 2ND MEETING? ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES THAT WANT TO BE MADE? NO. OKAY.
WE'LL ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS? NO STAFF. DID WE GET ANY? NO? OKAY. THANK YOU.
OKAY. OLD BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE HAVE A CASE THAT WAS DEFERRED FROM DECEMBER 2ND.
THANK YOU. SO YEAH, THIS IS IT.
THERE ARE 25 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT.
THREE WERE RETURNED, ALL THREE OF THOSE OPPOSED AND AS NOTED, THIS WAS DEFERRED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING SO THAT THE APPLICANT COULD BE PRESENT AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED.
NOW, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A PERMANENT LICENSE TO USE TO PLACE A CAR CHARGING STATION, THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY ALONG BALL STREET IN ORDER TO CHARGE A PERSONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE? THE APPLICANT OWNS PLEASE SEE EXHIBIT C FOR PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, AND, OF COURSE, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
INSTALL ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL LINES UNDERGROUND AS WELL.
NOTE THAT A LICENSE IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO PLACING LINES WITHIN OR OTHERWISE OBSTRUCTING CITY RIGHTS OF WAY, IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 35 OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND WHEN LOCATED WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT LANDMARK COMMISSION IT REVIEWS AND CAN PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR DECISION.
I BELIEVE THEY WILL HEAR THIS CASE ON.
THE REQUEST FOR LICENSE TO USE, THEREFORE, IS THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD SOLUTION.
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS CAN BE THOUGHT OF AS SPIRITUAL SUCCESSORS TO HISTORIC HITCHING POSTS.
TRANSPORTATION TO AUTOMOBILES, AND SINCE HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE ALSO OR ARE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS INHABITED BY MODERN RESIDENTS WITH MODERN NEEDS, THOSE SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED.
STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE IMPACT OF PROPOSED INSTALLATION ON EXISTING ADJACENT STREET TREES, AND RECOMMENDS LOCATING THE CHARGING STATION AS FAR AWAY FROM ALL STREET TREES AS POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE POTENTIAL DAMAGE TO THE ROOT SYSTEMS AND PROTECT THOSE TREES.
SO HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE VICINITY MAP SHOWING ITS LOCATION ON THE BLOCK.
THERE WAS SOME DEBATE AS TO IF THE CHARGING STATION WAS STILL THERE AND IN USE, AND WE PROVIDED A FEW PHOTOS SHOWING THAT IS WHAT IS IN THAT LITTLE BOX THERE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, AND HERE WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING THE POSITION OF THE PROPOSED CHARGING STATION FROM A COUPLE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ANGLES.
PLUS THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH, AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO? OKAY.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 24LC-033.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT? IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND SIGN IN ON THE SHEET, PLEASE.
JASON JOHNSTON, RESIDENT, 1522 BALL STREET.
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ALL RIGHT. YEAH.SO APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.
THAT'S TECHNICALLY CITY PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, THE MAIN THING IS WANTING TO DO IT.
JUST RUN THE CABLE, YOU KNOW, UNDERNEATH THE WALKWAY THERE, AND IF THERE'S ANY OBSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE JOISTS OF THE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'D REPLACE THAT AND EVERYTHING.
SO IT'S A 240 VOLT, 80 AMP, YOU KNOW, STANDARD FOR EV.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE ALLEYS BUILT BACK IN THE DAY WERE NOT COMPLETELY SATISFACTORY FOR THE SIZE OF THE TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE THESE DAYS AND SO I DID TRY TO PULL IT INTO THE GARAGE AND ACCESS IT THAT WAY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S TOO BIG, AND SO THE GARAGE DOESN'T SHUT ALL THE WAY AND IT HANGS OUT INTO THE ALLEYWAY, AND SO I DID TRY IT, YOU KNOW, TO SEE IF I COULD GET IN THERE AND INSTALL THAT SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING, AND LITERALLY THE VERY FIRST TIME I TRIED CARS WERE HONKING AT ME IN THE ALLEY TRYING TO GET INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO ANYWAYS, I WAS JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT FIT CITY OF GALVESTON AND MYSELF, AND SO THIS IS THE PROPOSAL AND ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
OKAY, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH. SO I GUESS IT'S FOR A BIG TRUCK.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CHARGE? YEAH, IT'S THE NEW HUMMER EV TRUCK THAT DOES THE LITTLE CRAB WALK.
PROBABLY SEEN ON COMMERCIALS AND STUFF, BUT.
SO IT'S 109FT FROM THE BREAKER BOX TO WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE DOING.
YOU'LL HAVE IT IN ON CITY RIGHT AWAY.
YOU'RE GOING TO RUN ALL THAT UNDERGROUND WITH ENOUGH VOLTAGE AND POWER SO YOU CAN HAVE A LEVEL TWO CHARGER, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AT YOUR EXPENSE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. YES, AND YOU'LL THEN HAVE THIS CHARGER AS KIND OF LIKE AS DEMONSTRATED.
YES. SO MY CONCERN INITIALLY WAS WOULD SOMEBODY TRIP ON ANY WIRES BUT THAT SEEMS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
YEAH. THEREFORE IT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL CORD OF THE CHARGING UNIT TO THE VEHICLE, AND THAT'S BASICALLY A COUPLE OF FEET BEFORE YOU HIT THE SIDEWALK AND THEN THE VEHICLE ITSELF, AND WHEN THE VEHICLE IS PARKED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, IT SHOULD BE A RELATIVELY EASE OF USE TO JUST HIT IT WITH THE CHARGER.
YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU JUST RUN IT FROM THE BREAKER BOX AND JUST PLUG IT IN? IT'S LIKE, WELL, THAT CREATES A TRIP HAZARD, ETC..
SO YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST KIND OF TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
THAT MADE IT NICE, CLEAN, GOOD LOOKING, AND SAFETY, OF COURSE, IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, AND SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT JUST BORING UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK AND IF THERE WAS ANY DAMAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH. SO THE MAIN CHARGING CORD WOULD GO TO THE STAND, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A CONNECTOR THAT'S CONNECTED TO THE, SO THERE'D BE A LOOP THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST PULL THAT OFF AND PLUG IT IN.
SO THE ONLY CORD THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOTICEABLE WOULD BE THAT LITTLE WIRE ROUTE.
YEAH, AND THEN YOU JUST PICK IT UP OFF THE CHARGER AND JUST PLUG IT IN AND SAY, YOU'RE ON VACATION.
SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, THERE'S A CHARGER.
I HAVE A CORD THAT'S VERY SIMILAR.
IS THAT GOING TO MY ELECTRICITY BILL IS GOING TO BE HIGH.
OKAY. THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO STEAL THE CHARGING SYSTEM.
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THERE AND THEN BY THAT PEDESTAL AND BOLT IT IN, AND SO AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT LOOK ALL NICE AND PRETTY WITH SHRUBS AND TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT KIND OF, KIND OF HIDE IT A LITTLE BIT. SO THE ONLY TIME THAT IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, NOTICEABLE IS JUST WHENEVER I PLUG IT IN AND.YEAH, ALL MY NEIGHBORS, THEY, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE HORSE CARRIAGE, I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY SIMILAR SIZE, WHAT THEY USED TO DO, BUT ALL MY NEIGHBORS HAVE THOSE AND BUT YEAH, I WOULD INSTALL THIS AND TRY TO PUT SOME NICE GREENERY AROUND IT.
SO IF YOUR VEHICLE ELECTRIC VEHICLE IS AT 0% AND YOU USE THIS SUPERCHARGER LEVEL TWO CHARGER FROM 0 TO 100%, HOW MANY HOURS WOULD IT TAKE TO FULLY CHARGE THAT VEHICLE WITH THIS SYSTEM? TEN AND A HALF.
OTHER THAN YOUR GARAGE, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS I SEE, LIKE IN YOUR.
I WISH I OWNED THAT IT WOULD BE VERY EASY JUST CONNECT IT TO MY HOUSE AND PULLING THAT DRIVEWAY AND CONNECT IT UP, BUT I'VE BRAINSTORMED BASICALLY EVERY OPTION TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE IT, AND SO THE BEST OPTION I COULD THINK OF WITHOUT BEING IN ANY NEIGHBORS' WAYS OR YOU KNOW JUST OBSTACLES IN THE ALLEY AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL THE TRASH CANS ARE, TOO, AND SO YEAH, I JUST KNOW WHENEVER I TRIED TO PARK THE CAR IN THERE, YOU KNOW, GET OUT, MOVE ALL THE TRASH CANS.
THE TREES HEADING OVER THE ALLEY AND STUFF.
HIT THE VEHICLE AND STUFF AS WELL.
SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE BEST METHOD, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE NOTICED IN GALVESTON THERE'S QUITE A FEW CHARGING STATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ACROSS THE CITY. SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT GALVESTON WAS PRO OF.
WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF YOUR GARAGE VERSUS YOUR TRUCK? IT HANGS OUT ABOUT THREE FEET.
WE DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR THIS LOCATION, BUT I DO THINK HE'S ALREADY ANSWERED THAT ONE.
SO YOU HAVE A REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU, AND IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON THAT, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I WILL WAIT FOR THE COMMISSION TO FINISH THEIR QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? GO AHEAD, BUT IN THIS CASE, HOW LONG? THIS MIGHT BE A RHETORICAL QUESTION, BUT HOW LONG IS THAT CORD, AND IS IT WRAPPED AROUND AFTER YOU GET FINISHED? IS IT GOING TO BE PLACED THERE AND WRAPPED? YES. CORRECT. IT DOES GET PLACED IN A NICE LITTLE WRAP AND THE CORD IS 25 FOOT LONG.
THANK YOU. WELL, IT'S 25FT LONG.
WATER HOSE PRETTY MUCH OUT THERE.
YEAH, IT'S LIKE A SUPER SIZED WATER HOSE.
IT'S IT GETS WRAPPED LIKE THIS, SO IT'S PROBABLY THIS TALL AND JUST GOES LIKE THAT, AND THEN WHENEVER I WANT TO CHARGE IT, JUST PULL IT OFF, PLUG IT IN, AND IT GETS CHARGED FROM WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE.
I MEAN, I CAN CHANGE THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA BETWEEN THE TREES IF Y'ALL WANT TO SPLIT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE TO PROTECT THE ROOTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, SO I DON'T THOSE TREES DON'T SEEM BIG ENOUGH TO AFFECT ANY OF THE ROOTS OR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. GIVE DONNA HER CHANCE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND STAFF MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ME WITH THIS AS WELL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS CAN IT BE ENCASED BY A BY THE BOX OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT? AND COULD THAT BE SECURED SO THAT YOUR ELECTRICITY DOESN'T FACE SOMEBODY COMING IN AND STEALING, RIGHT? I'VE NEVER SEEN A BOX LIKE THAT.
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF ENCASEMENT.
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MY CONTRACTORS CAN BUILD ANYTHING, SO I'M SURE IT'S POSSIBLE.I'VE NEVER SEEN A BOX LIKE THAT IN ALL MY RESEARCH THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, SO I KNOW WHERE IT IS.
[INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING I THINK IT WAS JUST THEIR THEIR CHOICE.
THERE'S NO DESIGN REGULATIONS THAT HAS TO MATCH AN ADJACENT PROPERTY.
YEAH. I THINK JUST KIND OF OFFHAND.
I THINK IT WOULD LOOK CLEANER WITHOUT THE BOX.
IT PROVIDES A BIGGER NUISANCE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TO HIDE, BUT, YEAH, I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT.
YEAH. MY VISION WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST A NICE LITTLE CLEAN STAND THEN SHRUBBERY AND GREENERY AROUND IT TO JUST KIND OF MAKE IT LOOK NICE AND PRETTY. [INAUDIBLE] CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S MY GOAL.
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSTON. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE, AND SIGN IN.
LAURA BOURGEOIS, ON BEHALF OF GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION.
SO FROM A PRESERVATION STANDPOINT, OUR STANCE IS THAT IT SETS A BAD PRECEDENT.
UNTIL AS A CITY, WE LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH CHARGING STATIONS, PUTTING THEM IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ADJACENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS, AND BEING ON THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAINTAIN THESE THIS EQUIPMENT IS SOMETHING WE'RE KIND OF IFFY ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THIS.
YOU KNOW, WITH SOLAR PANELS, WE KIND OF FIGURED THAT OUT, AND IT'S ON THE PROPERTY.
IT'S UP TO THEM TO MAINTAIN THOSE.
THIS WILL BE AN ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT LEADS TO AN ADJACENT PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR ITS ELECTRICAL METER AND SO WE'RE KIND OF THINKING IT'S WE'RE DISCUSSING IT, AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD PRECEDENT TO START IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT TO ALL OF A SUDDEN WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC ASSIGNED PARKING TO RESIDENTS, AND SO NOW THIS IS AN ASSIGNED PARKING BECAUSE HE COULD EASILY TELL HIS NEIGHBORS, OH, I NEED YOU TO MOVE YOUR CAR BECAUSE I NEED TO CHARGE MY CAR, AND SECOND OF ALL, THERE IS SPACE IN THE BACK FOR A GARAGE.
CAN THAT GARAGE BE ENLARGED? THERE'S A SIDE YARD WHERE THEY HAVE CURRENTLY A GOLF CART PARKED IN THERE.
IS THAT IS THERE ENOUGH SPACE FOR HIS TRUCK TO, LIKE, PULL IN THERE? THE OTHER PROPERTY ON M AND HALF ON M ON 24TH STREET.
IT'S HALF A LOT. IT DOES NOT HAVE ALLEY ACCESS.
IT DOES NOT HAVE OFF STREET PARKING OF ANY KIND, AND SO IT KIND OF THERE WAS THAT PRECEDENT OF LIKE THERE'S A HARDSHIP FOR LICENSE TO USE WHERE THEY NEEDED TO PUT IT ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IT'S JUST THE PERCEPTION OF IT AND THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN IT IF IT GETS DAMAGED DURING A HURRICANE? WHAT HAPPENS IF HE'S NOT IN THE PROPERTY BECAUSE HE HAD TO EVACUATE AND, YOU KNOW, THE PLUG COMES UNDONE OR THE BIG 25 FOOT HOSE GETS DISCONNECTED.
WHO MAINTAINS THAT? IT IS NOW ON THE CITY TO GO AND TURN OFF THE POWER TO THIS CHARGING STATION.
THERE'S JUST IT'S NOT SO MUCH IT'S NOT AS EASY AS, LIKE A HITCHING POST, WHICH IS JUST NOTHING'S ATTACHED TO IT. THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ATTACHMENTS THAT GO NOT ONLY UNDERGROUND, BUT ALSO ABOVE GROUND.
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OKAY. THANK YOU.ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO. OKAY.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 24LC-033 AND ASK FOR A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
I'LL MAKE ONE. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 24LC-033 WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE 25 FOOT LONG CORD IS BEING OUT THERE WITH NO ABILITY TO LOCK IT DOWN.
I WOULDN'T WANT A WATER HOSE OUT THERE WITH SOMETHING THAT'S ELECTRIC.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT.
TO ME, THAT'S THE DEAL BREAKER IN MY OPINION.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 25 FOOT HOSE COULD BE REMOVED.
YEAH, IT DOES HAVE A LOCKING MECHANISM.
[INAUDIBLE] HOW DO I DO THAT? OKAY. OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT BACK UP FOR QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] LET ME LOOK INTO THAT, AND I CAN REVERT.
IF YOU ONLY NEED A FOOT OR TWO.
YEAH, IT'S NOT MUCH, BUT THE CORD'S GOING TO BE ON THERE, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT PUTTING THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE OFF, AND IT'S CONNECTED TO THE ACTUAL CHARGING STATION, BUT THERE'S A LOCKING MECHANISM FOR THE CHARGER.
THERE'S A LOCKING MECHANISM THAT IS ATTACHED THERE, AND SO YOU HAVE TO PHYSICALLY PUSH THE BUTTON AND THEN PLUG IT IN, BUT SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE IMAGE ON THERE WHERE IT'S WRAPPED OVER WRAPPED AROUND.
I TRIED TO PUT AN IMAGE WITH THE STAND, AND SO I'M NOT A VERY GOOD CROPPER I GUESS, BUT BUT NO.
IS IT LOCKED, WRAPPED AROUND, OR IS IT LOCKED TO THE END OR IT CAN'T BE TAKEN OFF? YEAH. SO IT'S JUST SO THERE'S A CORD THAT COMES AND IT JUST WRAPS.
YEAH, AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM THERE'S A LOCKING MECHANISM THAT YOU PLUG THE CHARGER PORT INTO SO IT LOCKS YOU SCREW A WATER HOSE IN SO IT'S STILL A WATER HOSE ON? YES. CORRECT.
YEAH. SO A KID COULD RUN, PULL IT ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S NOTHING. IT'S NOT LOCKED ON.
YEAH. THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE WATER HOSES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET.
DID YOU INVESTIGATE WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN GET A MORE SECURE SYSTEM FROM THE CONTRACTOR, SO THAT YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT? YEAH, I CAN DO I CAN BUILD A LOCKING BOX TO WHERE IT'S EITHER CODE ACCESSIBLE OR A KEY, AND, YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN'T PHYSICALLY PULL IT OFF.
IT'LL PROBABLY SAVE MY ELECTRICAL BILL AS WELL, BUT AS FAR AS, LIKE STREET PARKING AND STUFF LIKE WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ALL MY NEIGHBORS ALREADY YELL AT EVERYBODY FOR PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OF IT, SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE, BUT I'LL LOOK INTO A SHORTER CORD.
IF THIS CHARGING DEVICE WAS FULLY ENCASED IN SOME TYPE OF WOODEN BOX TYPE STRUCTURE, WOULD IT THE ENCASEMENT IMPACT THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE DEVICE ITSELF, OVERHEATING THAT TYPE OF THING NOW, BECAUSE WHENEVER I'M CHARGING IT, THERE'S NO HEAT OR ANYTHING THAT COMES OFF OF IT.
IT'S JUST AN ELECTRICAL CHARGE.
DOES IT NEED TO BREATHE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, NOT TO MY UNDERSTANDING.
I'VE BEEN CHARGING AT ALL OF THESE ACROSS THE CITY, AND THEREFORE, AS ATTORNEY FAIRWEATHER SUGGESTED, IF IT WERE COMPLETELY ENCASED IN SOME TYPE OF BUILT WOODEN DEVICE ESTHETIC STRUCTURE THAT HAD A OPEN CLOSED DOOR WITH A LOCK.
I THINK THAT COULD RESOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THE WAY I SEE IT, BECAUSE THEN YOU COULD TAKE YOUR HOSE AND JUST IT'S SOMETHING KIND OF LIKE THE OTHER PHOTO AND NOT JUST AN EXPOSED HOSE FOR ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC TO DAMAGE, VANDALIZE OR THE LIKE.
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YEAH. YEAH, I CAN DEFINITELY.I MEAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY BUILD ONE.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS MINIMIZE ANY TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OR VISUAL APPEARANCE.
RIGHT, AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO HIDE IT WITH ALL THE SHRUBS AND STUFF BUT I CAN ABSOLUTELY ENCASE IT.
THAT'D BE A SIMPLE PROCESS MAILBOX.
YEAH. YEAH, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. OKAY.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH. I GUESS I HAVE A BIGGER QUESTION, TOO.
ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT WITHOUT HAVING AN OVERALL DISCUSSION ON THIS, OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THESE ON EVERY HOUSE ON THE STREET? DO WE WANT THAT? THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT EITHER.
I'LL ALSO SAY EACH CASE IS REVIEWED INDIVIDUALLY.
SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS CASE FOR ITS OWN MERITS AND WHAT IT BRINGS AND WHAT IT MAY NOT BRING, AND I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT, AND ON THAT NOTE, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THIS CASE SPECIFICALLY, AND I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE THAN RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, AND I THINK YOU KIND OF CUT ME OFF ON, LIKE, ASKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVES, BUT TO ME, WITH THE GARAGE AND THE SIDE YARD, THAT SEEMS LIKE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE AGAIN, THAN WHERE IT'S PROPOSED RIGHT NOW.
SO MY RESPONSE TO THAT IS THIS.
IF YOU ARE NOT WANTING TO VOTE FOR THAT MOTION IN A POSITIVE MANNER, THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY COMMISSIONERS WERE SELECTED FOR THIS BOARD BASED ON THE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES.
HOWEVER, NOTE IF YOU'RE NOT CONVINCED THAT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO PLACEMENT, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO REPHRASE THIS.
I WOULD SUGGEST EITHER FLESHING OUT WITH THE APPLICANT HIS REASONS FOR THE PLACEMENT THAT HAVE NOT ADEQUATELY ANSWERED THE PLACEMENT AREA, AND SO IF THE COMMISSIONERS CHAIRMAN, CHAIRWOMAN WANTS TO AGAIN QUERY THE APPLICANT ON THAT, THAT CAN HAPPEN, BUT AGAIN, IF THE MOTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND SECONDED ON THIS DISCUSSION THAT'S HAPPENING UNLESS YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONERS ARE FREE TO VOTE WHICHEVER WAY THEY WANT TO VOTE.
JUST BE UNDERSTANDABLE OF IT'S NOT JUST BASED ON YOUR FEELING, IT'S BASED ON WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED.
SO IN MY OPINION, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO PLACE IT.
YEAH, BUT HE ALSO HAS A GARAGE BACK THERE.
THIS CAR DOESN'T FIT IN IT 20 BY 20 GARAGE.
IT STICKS OUT ABOUT THREE FEET.
WE DIDN'T GET DIMENSIONS. I WAS ASKING THAT.
SO WE SAID THAT WHEN HE SPOKE.
YEAH. IS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A FRIDGE IN THERE? THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES IN THAT, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO THIS, BUT, WELL, IT IS EXPLORER WON'T EVEN GO IN OUR GARAGE.
IT'S. THE GARAGE IS TOO OLD AND IT'S TOO LOW.
IT JUST WON'T. YEAH, BUT WE'RE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT'S IN THE SITUATION.
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IT'S DIFFICULT TURNING INTO.I HAVE AN F-150, YOU KNOW, I CAN LEAVE MY GARAGE WHEN I NEED TO, CAN MOVE IT AROUND.
ON THE EAST END, WHERE WE HAVE NARROW LITTLE ALLEYS.
YEAH, I DO. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO.
IT'S NOT IDEAL. I DON'T PARK IN THE ROAD I HAVE, I CAN GET IN THERE.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? NO. OKAY.
WE'LL TAKE IT BACK TO THE VOTE.
MY MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE CASE AS PRESENTED WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU'RE STILL OKAY? SECONDING THAT, RIGHT? YES. OKAY, SO WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE AGAINST.
[INAUDIBLE] WE WOULD REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE VOTE FOR APPROVAL FAILED.
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE. LET'S MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS, AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
OUR FIRST IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
THE REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A NEW GARAGE.
ONE RETURNED THAT ONE IN FAVOR.
THE LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THE GARAGE IS VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
STAFF HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ONE-STORY GARAGES THAT ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
A SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT IS PROVIDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
CONFORMANCE STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE.
THE EXTERIOR MODIFICATION SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN, MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT PRESENTED IN EXHIBIT A AND THEN STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH FIVE, AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES. THIS IS THE GARAGE THAT IS TO BE DEMOLISHED, AND THEN THESE ARE THE PLANS FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. WHAT IS A TPO ROOF? TPO STANDS FOR WHAT? LOOK, I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW DANIEL.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT A TPO ROOF IS? IT WILL HAVE A TPO ROOF, IMPACT WINDOWS AND HURRICANE RATED GARAGE DOOR.
I UNDERSTAND WAS THAT IT WAS A COMPOSITION SHINGLE ROOF.
THE APPLICANT I BELIEVE IS HERE AND HOPEFULLY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR US.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 24LC-034.
I'M SORRY. IS THE APPLICANT HEARING? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT? IF YOU COULD SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
I'M WITH CROWE CONSTRUCTION, AND WE'RE THE ONES PLANNING TO DO THIS FOR THEM.
I WAS HOPING I WOULDN'T HAVE TO TALK BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO START COUGHING IF I DO.
A TPO ROOF IS JUST A SINGLE MEMBRANE ROOF.
INSTEAD OF GOING WITH THE SHINGLES HE WANTS.
THANK YOU. INSTEAD OF GOING WITH THE SHINGLES, HE WANTED TO GO WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS LONG LASTING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SEEN FROM THE STREET.
IT'S SLOPED BACK, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT.
IT'S JUST ONE SHEET OF PLASTIC OVER THE WHOLE THING.
IT'S GOT LIKE A 60 YEAR LIFESPAN.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? NO. OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. CASE 24LC-034 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY.
EVERYONE IN FAVOR? THE MOTION. OKAY.
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OUR NEXT NEW BUSINESS ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.ALRIGHTY. SO AS STATED, THIS IS ANOTHER COA AT THE ADDRESS NOTED.
THIS IS ONCE AGAIN FOR A GARAGE.
HOWEVER, THIS WILL BE IN THE REAR ALONG THE ALLEY, AS WE TYPICALLY SEE.
THERE WERE SIX PUBLIC NOTICES SENT.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF SITE MODIFICATIONS, INCLUDING ADDITION OF A TWO STORY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE ALLEY IN THE REAR OF THE MAIN HOUSE.
PLEASE ALSO NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS REQUEST.
SO STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS SUBMITTED UTILIZE SMOOTH, HARDY SIDING THROUGHOUT.
THIS IS PERMISSIBLE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
ESPECIALLY IN LOCATION D, WHICH IS NOT TYPICALLY VISIBLE.
STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS WITH USING HORIZONTAL LAP SIDING FROM GRADE ALL THE WAY TO THE ROOF.
ALTHOUGH SMOOTH, HARDY IS OTHERWISE PERMISSIBLE.
SO TYPICALLY WE WOULD SEE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR DOWN TO GRADE WOULD BE BOARD AND BATTEN ACCORDING TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THEN LAP SIDING ABOVE THAT TO THE ROOF. ROOF LINE DOORS ARE PROPOSED TO BE FIBERGLASS OR STEEL, SOME OF WHICH WILL INCLUDE GLASS LIGHTS.
WINDOWS WILL BE VINYL CLAD, SINGLE HUNG WINDOWS.
PROPOSED ROOF WILL BE COMPOSITION SINGLES TO MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE, WHICH ALSO CONFORMS. FINALLY, ACCORDING TO THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS, THE BUILDING WILL NOT BE SIGNIFICANT VISIBLE FROM THE MAIN STREET DESPITE THE RELATIVELY LOW HEIGHT OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AS YOU SEE HERE ON SCREEN NOW AND BECAUSE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS STILL NOT THAT HIGH IT WILL BE LOCATED ONCE AGAIN VERY FAR FROM THE MAIN STREET, PRETTY MUCH RIGHT BACK ON THE ALLEY.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, THE REQUEST WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
ONE EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO CONFORM TO THE DESIGN, MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT.
EXHIBIT A WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS.
HERE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT'S RENDERINGS SHOWING, YOU KNOW, THEIR PROPOSAL FOR THE SIDING AND THE DOORS AND WINDOWS AND SUCH AS THAT, PLUS A SITE PLAN SHOWING WHERE THE NEW GARAGE WILL BE LOCATED.
THANK YOU, DANIEL. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO? OKAY. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 24LC-035.
STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN, PLEASE.
HI, BRANT [INAUDIBLE], APPLICANT.
YEAH. SO IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A TWO STORY GARAGE IN THE BACK.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE READ THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
CERTAINLY SEEMS VERY REASONABLE TO DO THE BOARD AND BATTEN ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, EASY CHANGES TO MAKE.
SO ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE HAPPY TO INCORPORATE INTO THE DESIGN? AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS CASE? NO? OKAY.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
I MAKE A MOTION ON CASE 24LC-035 WE APPROVE ACCORDING TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY. WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY, THERE WE GO.
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE NEXT TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS OR ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS MONDAY, JANUARY 6TH, 2025? NO.OKAY. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT HOLIDAY TIME WITH ALL YOUR PEOPLE AND WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.
THANK YOU. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.