[1. Call Meeting To Order]
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ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
WE HAVE A QUORUM, AND WE HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY HOLD ON A SECOND HERE.
OKAY, SO DO WE HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING ON AUGUST THE 20TH.
[4. Approval Of Minutes]
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL HAVE THOSE STAND AS APPROVED.SO IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
YOU CAN YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
SEEING NONE WE'LL GO TO OUR NEW BUSINESS 24 BF DASH ZERO EIGHT.
[6.A.1. 24BF-048 (12031 Sand Dollar Beach Drive) Request For Beachfront Construction Certificate And Dune Protection Permit To Include Proposed Construction Of A Single Family Dwelling With Fibercrete Driveway And Footer And To Enhance An Emergency Dune To A Man-Made Dune. Property Is Legally Described As Sand Dollar Beach (2017) Abstract 121, Lot 3, ACRES 0.132 Within A Subdivision In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Doyle Alfrey Property Owner: Randy And Janis McGuffey]
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ON.COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WITH FIBER CREEK, DRIVEWAY AND FOOTER.
THIS PROJECT WAS PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED UNDER 20 3-004, BUT EXPIRED BEFORE THE WORK COULD OCCUR.
ALSO TO ENHANCE AN EMERGENCY DUNE ON THE PROPERTY.
THE ADDRESS IS 12031 SAND DOLLAR BEACH DRIVE.
PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS SAND DOLLAR BEACH, ABSTRACT ONE TWO, ONE LOT, THREE ACRES, 0.132.
AND A SUBDIVISION LOCATED IN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE SAND DOLLAR BEACH SUBDIVISION.
SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE LOCATED TO THE EAST AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY, THIS AREA IS ERODING AT A RATE OF SIX FEET PER YEAR.
STAFF HAS PREPARED SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR YOUR VIEWING.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS A PROPERTY SURVEY ZOOMED IN ON THE RIGHT TO SHOW THE NORTH TOE OF THE DUNE AND A DISTANCE OF 29FT, AND LINE OF VEGETATION DISTANCE OF APPROXIMATELY 73FT.
RIGHT HERE ARE JUST SOME OF THE DRAWINGS SHOWING THE UNENFORCED FIBER CRATE UP UNDER THE HOUSE.
SIDE VIEWS, SIDE ELEVATIONS, RIGHT ELEVATION.
JUST ANOTHER PLAN VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS A DRAWING OF THE PROPOSED ENHANCED DUNE ON THE ON THE SITE.
THIS IS CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.
THE CITY DID AUTHORIZE AN EMERGENCY DUNE RESTORATION.
THERE WAS A DUNE THERE BEFORE TROPICAL STORM ALBERTO AND HURRICANE BERYL.
WE WERE ABLE TO AUTHORIZE AN EMERGENCY DUNE RESTORATION.
SO, FROM EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION FROM THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE THE APPLICANT GOT OUT THERE AND RESTORED THE DUNE, BUT HE ALSO DID IT JUST INSTEAD OF JUST GOING OUT THERE AND PUTTING SOME SAND, HE ACTUALLY REBUILT IT.
AND SO, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUESTS IS ALSO TO ALLOW HIM TO ENHANCE IT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S BEING MONITORED PLANTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, NOT JUST THE EMERGENCY DUNES.
WE'RE JUST KIND OF GO THROW SOME SAND UP IN CASE WE GET ANOTHER STORM.
SO THIS IS HE'S ACTUALLY ENHANCING THE EMERGENCY DUNE.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE LOT TO THE NORTH, TO THE WEST, TO THE EAST.
THIS IS ACTUALLY UP THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE LABEL.
SO, THIS IS THE DUNE THAT WAS PRESENT SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT IS POST ALBERTO PRE BERYL.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DUNE WITHSTOOD A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE WAVE ACTION FROM ALBERTO.
ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S JUST A SIDE VIEW OF THE DUNE PRIOR TO HURRICANE BERYL.
YOU CAN SEE THAT MOST OF THE DUNE GOT WASHED AWAY.
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BACK TO THAT KIND OF BACK TO THE ESTABLISHED THING.THIS IS EMERGENCY DUNE CONSTRUCTION.
SO THEY WERE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY RECENT AFTER THE STORM HIT.
SO, THERE IT'S ALREADY HAVE HAY BUILT THERE, BUT WE GAVE THEM THE EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION.
AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN OUT THERE AND PLANTED THIS BEFORE THIS AUTHORIZATION TO GET TO GET THE VEGETATION ESTABLISHED AND ALL THAT WE COULD ALLOW THAT UNDER THE EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION.
BUT SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE LONG TERM, THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO DO THE ENHANCEMENT ON THIS.
THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU KYLE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? GO AHEAD JOHN. DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A SINGLE LOT WITH A DUNE WHEN THE LOTS ON EITHER SIDE HAVE NO DUNE? DOES THAT HAVE ANY EFFECT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED UNDER OUR PLAN AND UNDER OUR ORDINANCES.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO.
I KNOW IT'S ALLOWED, BUT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I MEAN, IS THAT GOING TO HAVE ANY POSITIVE EFFECT? THEY'RE AUTHORIZED TO. THEY'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO THAT.
I CAN'T SPEAK ON THE IF IT'S GOING TO WORK OR NOT.
I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE CAN'T AUTHORIZE.
CAN IT HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE LOTS THAT ARE ON EITHER SIDE? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION THAT LIKE A BULKHEAD CREATES AN EFFECT WITH THE WATER AND IT CAUSES DAMAGE ON THE PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE A BULKHEAD.
WOULD THAT BE THE CASE WITH A IF IT IF IT DID, THEN WE COULD GO OUT THERE BECAUSE UNDER OUR CHAPTER 29 OF OUR ORDINANCE, WE SAY THAT YOU CANNOT CAUSE EROSION ON EITHER SIDE.
AND IF WE GO OUT THERE AND WE OBSERVE THAT, THEN WE COULD TALK TO THEM ABOUT CORRECTING THAT.
SO IF WE DID OBSERVE THAT WE COULD SAY YOU'RE NON-COMPLIANT.
YOU NEED WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS EROSION THAT WE'RE OBSERVING OUT THERE.
OKAY. IN THE LETTER FROM THE GLO THEY MADE MENTION OF THE WALKOVER THE EXISTING WALKOVER THAT IT EXTENDS TOO FAR ONTO THE BEACH. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THAT? WELL WE'RE NOT THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE TO US THAT IT IS EXTENDING OUT ONTO THE PUBLIC BEACH.
THAT, LIKE I SAID, THESE YELLOW LETTERS ARE COMMENTS FROM THE GLO WE HAVE OTHER INSTANCES WHERE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE FARTHER OUT ON THE BEACH THAT THEY'RE SAYING IS NOT OUT ONTO THE PUBLIC BEACH.
SO, THE POSITION THAT THE CITY IS TAKING IS, IF YOU ARE SAYING IT, THEN THAT YOU HAVE SURVEYORS, YOU NEED TO SEND OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION OF SAYING THIS IS THE DEMARCATION OF THE PUBLIC BEACH AND THIS IS HOW FAR IT'S OUT.
SO WE'RE AT THIS TIME, WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY.
A QUICK QUESTION. SO THE DUNE, THAT'S THE EMERGENCY DUNE THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT GOING TO BE ENLARGED OR IS THAT GOING TO BE.
NO. THEY BASICALLY BUILT WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE.
OKAY. SO UNDER THE EMERGENCY RULES GLO PASSED SOME EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION.
SO WHERE WE COULD GO OUT THERE AFTER OUR BOROUGH, WE COULD GO OUT THERE.
IT WAS VERY STRICT OF WHAT WE CAN ALLOW, WHAT WE COULD ALLOW.
TALKING TO THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME IS LIKE, HEY, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME, IT JUST CAN'T BE AN EMERGENCY, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MONITORING IT AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE'RE FINE.
WE JUST NEED TO GET OUT THERE AND START WORKING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE AUTHORIZED IT.
BUT NO, IT'S BUILT LIKE WHAT'S IN THE WHAT'S IN THE PLAN.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE MONITORING THE PLANS.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING ALL OF THAT.
BUT THE EMERGENCY DUNE IS JUST FOR TEMPORARY.
I MEAN THEY'LL BE MAINTAIN THE PLANTINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IF THE VEGETATION DOESN'T.
BUT THE IT'S ALREADY GOT THE TWO HAY BALES.
IT'S ALREADY GOT ALL OF, ALL OF THAT IN.
50FT ACROSS AND ALL THAT OKAY.
IT SAYS THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO USE AN UNREINFORCED FIBER CREEP WITHIN 100FT OF THE LINE OF VEGETATION, WHICH DOES NOT COMPLY WITH 31 TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.
SO IS THAT BECAUSE NOW THAT THE DUNE IS THERE, NOW THEY'RE ALLOWED TO.
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YES. SO WHEN THE APPLICANT ORIGINALLY THE ORIGINAL PACKET THAT WENT TO THE GLO, WE TOLD THEM THEY WERE BUILDING A DUNE.AND SO THEY'RE JUST SAYING, YEAH, THERE'S NOT A DUNE THERE.
IT'S JUST SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A DUNE THERE.
BUT SUBSEQUENT TO US SENDING THAT, THE DUNE GOT BUILT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO THAT.
SO NOW THEY CAN USE THE FIBER CREEP.
KYLE. ON THE GLO LETTER THAT FIRST BULLET THERE IN REGARDS TO THE DUNE WALKOVER, DOES THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS OR WITH THE DUNE CONSTRUCTION? THE EMERGENCY DUNE CONSTRUCTION.
DOES THAT TAKE CARE OF THAT BULLET POINT OR IS THAT A I MEAN, LET ME GET TO THE GLO.
OKAY. OKAY, SO THIS THIS BULLET ITEM, THE ORIGINAL SURVEY THAT WE SENT UP WAS INACCURATE ON THE DISTANCE OF THE DUNE OF THE DUNE WALKOVER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THAT'S WHAT THIS ONE WAS.
SO SUBSEQUENT TO THIS, THE APPLICANT GAVE US AN UPDATED SURVEY SHOWING THAT IT'S NOT THE SURVEYOR HAD ON THERE. IT DID ACTUALLY GOING TOO FAR SOUTH.
BUT AFTER THAT THEY GAVE US WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS WHAT'S ACCURATE.
WE MISLABELED IT, SO THEY CORRECTED THE THING.
SO IT'S. YES, SIR. SO IT'S NOT GOING AS FAR AS ON THE SURVEY IS WHAT IT WAS INDICATING.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? AND THEN THIS IS A NEW ONE.
YEAH. THIS WAS THIS ONE SAYS MAY 2024.
OKAY. SO ON THE WALKOVER WHERE IS THE LINE FOR THAT.
BECAUSE THE GLO IS SAYING THAT IT MUST NOT EXTEND LANDWARD.
IT MUST BE SHORTENED TO BE LANDWARD OF THE MEAN HIGH TIDE MARK.
SO, AFTER WE GOT THIS LETTER, WE COORDINATED WITH THE APPLICANT, AND THEY GAVE US THIS NEW UPDATED.
WELL, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT SHOWS THE CROSSOVER STILL EXTENDING BEYOND THE MEAN HIGH-WATER MARK.
PROBABLY ABOUT I MEAN, MAYBE 30FT.
JUST GUESSING IF THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE.
THEY GAVE US A NEW THEY GAVE US A NEW SURVEY.
OH, AND I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YEAH, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING BUT.
ALL RIGHT. YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT PAST THE MEAN, IT'S NOT PAST THE MEAN HIGH TIDE.
APPLICANT. AND WHILE YOU'RE STANDING THERE.
YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD SIGN IN FOR US.
AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL YOU UP HERE IN JUST A SECOND WHEN WE GET DONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD. YEAH.
I KNEW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT, SO.
OKAY. I THINK I KIND OF GET THE GIST OF THAT BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THAT.
ALL RIGHT. SO BACK TO YOU, KYLE.
SO HE HAD A HE HAD AN APPROVED CERTIFICATE A CONSTRUCTION CERTIFICATE.
DID IT EXPIRE? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO WHEN THEY EXPIRE, THEY HAVE TO BE RENEWED.
THEY GOT TO START FROM SCRATCH.
THEY HAVE TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION BEFORE THEY EXPIRE.
OKAY. BUT IN THIS INSTANCE THEY DID NOT.
OKAY. AND THE DUNE WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THEM BUILDING THE HOUSE.
SO THE DUNES HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO.
OKAY. THE ONE THAT GOT WASHED AWAY.
AND THE EMERGENCY DUNE HAS KIND OF TURNED INTO HIS PERMANENT DUNE.
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SO YOU TOOK THE EMERGENCY ONE AND MADE IT INTO WHAT'S THERE NOW? OKAY. SO I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE EMERGENCY DUNE.I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT WAS IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. JOHN I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE, BUT THERE IS A SAND RENOURISHMENT PROGRAM PLAN FOR THIS SECTION OF BEACH AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
IS THAT 2025 OR BEYOND? THIS SECTION? YEAH, IT'S STILL PLANNED FOR 2025.
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY DETAILS ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF, WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
NO, IT'S BEING DESIGNED BY, BY ANOTHER AGENCY.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE PLANS OR ANYTHING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU KYLE.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP.
ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? OKAY. I THINK YOU GET TO.
WE DO NEED YOU TO SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
WE HAD GONE THROUGH THE WE DID THIS LAST YEAR AND WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR, BUT WHEN WE WENT TO SUBMIT IT, WE HAD TO GET ALL THE RE-ENGINEERING DONE AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO THE NEW CODES THAT THE CITY ADOPTED.
BUT YOU DO NOW HAVE A SURVEY THAT SHOWS WHERE THAT'S ALL GOOD SURVEYS, ALL DONE.
OKAY. EVERYTHING'S DONE, BUT WE ARE COMPLETELY APPROVED BY THE CITY.
OKAY. ACTUALLY DROP PILINGS ON THE HOUSE READY TO GO.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. LOVE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
ALL RIGHT. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION JOHN? YES. I JUST WANTED TO ASK MR. MCGUFFEY. WHEN DID YOU PURCHASE THE LOT? JUST A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS AGO.
OKAY. AND TO BE, TO BE HONEST, WE FIGURED THIS WOULD BE ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF PROJECT.
IT'S TURNED OUT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BY THE TIME WE GOT OUR BUILDING PERMIT FROM THE CITY, WE LITERALLY DROPPED ALL LUMBER ON SITE.
AND THEN I THINK THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO START SETTING PILINGS THAT MORNING THAT MONDAY MORNING.
WHEN YOU PURCHASED THE LOT, WERE YOU AWARE OF THE BEACH EROSION ISSUES IN THIS AREA? NOT REALLY. I DEFINITELY WOULD SAY I WAS UNEDUCATED IN THAT.
I WAS AWARE THAT THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE A DUNE.
AND EVEN IN THE CONTRACT, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WE HAD TOLD THE DEVELOPER WE NEEDED THE DUNE IN BEFORE WE WOULD CLOSE ON THE LOT AND I GUESS AGAIN, UNEDUCATED HE HE PUT IN A DUNE THAT WAS LITERALLY ABOUT 10 TO 12 FOOT WIDE AND ABOUT FOUR FOOT HIGH.
AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE WERE WORKING WITH THE COASTAL RESOURCES OFFICE, AND AGAIN, OUR DEVELOPER WAS STILL, I THINK, BECAUSE OF THAT DUNE, SMALLER DUNE HAD GOTTEN WASHED AWAY AND HE WAS GETTING A NEW PERMIT.
AND THAT'S WHEN THEY TOLD US WE COULD JUST GET OUR OWN PERMIT AND MOVE FORWARD AS INDIVIDUALLY.
SO AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN SINCE THEN.
OKAY. THIS PROPERTY IS IN A HOA.
HAVE YOU TALKED WITH ANY OF THE OTHER OWNERS IN THE HOA?YEAH.
LET ME SEE I UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? I'M DONE.
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THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IF NOT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.WE HAVE A MOTION. THEN WE'LL GO TO DISCUSSION.
SO. THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON IT.
SO NOW IT'S COMING BACK FOR A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES. MY CONCERN IS THAT WE KEEP SEEING THESE CASES COME FORWARD.
AND LOGICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A 4 OR 5 FOOT TIDE COMES IN THAT THAT DUNE BEING 50FT WIDE, WILL BE GONE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 20, 30 MINUTES, DEPENDING UPON IF IT'S 4FT OR 5FT.
WE HAD FIVE FEET WITH THE BARREL AND IT TOOK OUT 40FT OF EXISTING DUNE.
MY QUESTION EARLIER THAT WAS PERHAPS INAPPROPRIATE.
BUT FOR THIS DISCUSSION, I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT CERTAINLY IS.
THE BETTER SOLUTION WOULD BE GET THE HOA TOGETHER, GET THE OTHER LOT OWNERS TOGETHER AND SAY, LET'S BUILD A DUNE. THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
NOT PUTTING BAND AIDS OR JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
EVERY TIME WE SEE A CASE LIKE THIS, WHEN WE KNOW IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T WORK.
IF I MAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS TALKING TO KYLE ABOUT BEFORE, TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF HIM.
THEY CAN ONLY DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH HAY AND CETERA FOR A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT.
BUT WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL COMES, THEY HAVE NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVED IN A HOUSE AND NONE OF THE HOA PEOPLE WANTED TO PONY UP TO PROTECT THEIR DUNE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PROTECT YOUR OWN PROPERTY.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY COULD GET THE HOA.
IT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING IF A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER THAT BEFORE THEY COME BEFORE US AND SAY, OKAY, THE HOA, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A GEO TUBE AND I'M GOING TO BE RIGHT BEHIND IT RIGHT HERE.
SO THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE THEY HAVE, WHICH MEANS THE ALTERNATIVE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON TO ME.
IT'S MAKING THE PROBLEM BIGGER.
TO WHAT EXTENT WE CAN DO THAT? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
IT'S A I'M IN YOUR CAMP ON PART OF IT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF CREATING PROBLEMS. BUT I'M ALSO IN THE PROPERTY OWNERS CAMP AND THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAS HIS PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS AS WELL.
HE OWNS THE PROPERTY WE NEED IF HE HAS A RIGHT TO BUILD ON IT.
YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OBLIGATION TO HIM IN THAT REGARD.
I THINK IT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN JUST THIS CASE.
BUT I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN IF HE'S IT'S AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
IT'S KIND OF A ROUND PEG GOING IN A ROUND HOLE.
I JUST DON'T LIKE THE SIZE OF THE HOLE IT'S GOING IN.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR AVENUE OF WHAT WE CAN DO IN THIS REGARD.
YOU KNOW WHAT OUR COURSE OF ACTION IS.
CAN WE ASK KYLE IF THERE IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I.
BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH YOU, JOHN.
THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS THE LOT OWNER NEXT DOOR.
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YOU CAN ALREADY SEE WHERE HIS LOT IS ERODED BACK.SO WHEN WE GO TO DO HIS DEAL, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO MEASURE BACK WHERE HE PUTS HIS DUNE.
SO HE'S ALREADY GOT A PROBLEM.
THIS GUYS JUMPED OUT AND HE'S BEEN VERY PROACTIVE.
BUT HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HE'S GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
HIS DUNE IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY A GOOD 30 40FT BACK FROM WHERE THIS ONE IS.
SO YOU HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, THIS LAST STORM WAS NOTHING.
YEAH. I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT WAS NOTHING.
BUT THAT WAS NOT ANYTHING LIKE WHAT IT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR US? IS THIS SOMETHING I MEAN, PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO.
IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT? I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO DO A WORKSHOP OR, I GUESS, WHATEVER.
THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YEAH. WE CAN SET SOMETHING UP AND TALK ABOUT SOME ITEMS. OKAY. I SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, IT'S GOING TO BE RECURRING.
AND IF WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF UNIFIED EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE HOMEOWNERS, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD DO THAT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO GET A BUY IN, I GUESS, FROM GLO SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT.
SO THEN THEY INCURRED ANOTHER COST ALREADY JUST FROM THAT.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO SEE IF WE COULD DO IT WITH THE HOMEOWNERS, BECAUSE THE HOA, THAT'S I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU PAY AN HEY EVERYBODY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS PRETTY COSTLY.
WE HEARD THE OWNER STATE THAT HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THE EROSION ISSUE.
SO TO ME, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE KNOWLEDGE THAT'S IMPARTED TO FUTURE OWNERS OF BEACHFRONT PROPERTY.
THEY'RE JUST NOT KNOWING ENOUGH.
SO LET'S WE'LL WORK ON GETTING THIS ON A WORKSHOP.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED? SO WE HAVE ONE OPPOSED.
[6.A.2. 24BF-053 (11339 Beachside Drive) Request For Beachfront Construction Certificate And Dune Protection Permit To Include Proposed Construction Of A Single-Family Dwelling With Paver Driveway And Fibercrete Footer. Property Is Legally Described As Lot 912, Beachside Village Section 9 (2024), A Subdivision In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Dana Lee - Egret Bay Builders, LLC Property Owner: Andrew Alepa]
BF-053. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH PAVER DRIVEWAY AND FIBER CREEK FOOTER.
THE ADDRESS IS 11339 BEACHSIDE DRIVE.
THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 912 BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.
SECTION NINE, A SUBDIVISION LOCATED IN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE BEACHSIDE VILLAGE SUBDIVISION.
VACANT LOTS ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTH, EAST AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
A BEACH AND DUNE SYSTEM IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY, THIS AREA IS ERODING AT A RATE OF EIGHT FEET PER YEAR.
STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR YOUR VIEWING.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE PROPERTY SURVEY, ZOOMED IN ON THE RIGHT TO SHOW THE NORTH TOE OF THE DUNE AND THE DISTANCE OF 26FT AND A DISTANCE OF TO THE LINE OF VEGETATION OF APPROXIMATELY 126FT.
AND FINALLY WE HAVE FOUR PHOTOS OF THE SITE LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTH, AND FROM THE LINE OF VEGETATION LOOKING NORTH.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, KYLE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUICK ONE AND MAYBE I'M JUST NOT ON THE RIGHT PAGE, BUT I SEE THE SURVEY WHERE IT HAS THE 25 FOOT MARK, BUT I DON'T SEE THE HOUSE LAID ON IT, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW HOW FAR BACK THE HOUSE IS FROM THE 25 FOOT LINE THERE.
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IT'S PAGE 82.WE'LL HAVE NUMBERS 82, WHICH IS THE DRAWINGS.
THAT'S WHERE. OH OKAY. OKAY OKAY OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THIS A LOT.
SO IF A IF A IF WE KNOW THAT THE BEACH IS ERODING AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT, ARE WE SAYING THAT WHEN THE HOUSE IF THERE HAS A HURRICANE OR THE BEACHES, YOU KNOW, I WROTE IT BACK THAT ALL THESE HOUSES THAT ARE KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY END UP IN THE MEAN TIME, THAT THOSE HOUSES ARE NOT GOING TO BE HABITABLE.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE HOUSE IS NO LONGER AUTHORIZED? WELL, JILL CAN COME TAKE IT OUT IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S ON THE PUBLIC BEACH AND THE GLO HAS AVENUES OF REMOVING IT, IF IT'S THE CITY HAS AVENUES, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONDEMNED.
BUT IF IT ACTUALLY BECOMES ON THE PUBLIC BEACH, GLO HAS AS AVENUES THAT IT CAN TAKE TO REMOVE IT.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY BUILD THESE HOUSES OUT ON THE BEACH, THAT THEY RUN THE RISK OF THE STRUCTURE NOT BEING AUTHORIZED OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. YES, MA'AM.
THAT'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT IN THE PERMIT, ISN'T IT, WHERE THE STRUCTURE HAS TO BE MOVABLE.
YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO, THEY'RE ALL BUILT ON, YOU KNOW, THE PILINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL, AND YOU CONFIRMED THAT THE APPLICANT DOES GET A COPY OF THE GLO LETTER SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO.
FOR A BETTER WAY OF SAYING THAT.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WHY DON'T YOU COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN FOR US, PLEASE.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THE SPEC HOUSE, THEN? NO, NO, THERE'S A YOU'RE THE BUILDER.
OWNER? YES. OKAY. GOT IT, GOT IT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I KNOW HOW THEY MOVE THESE THINGS AFTER THE STORM.
ALL RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
OKAY. MR. LEE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS ACTION BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.
A SECOND. SO, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
24BF-053. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES.
IS THAT, THAT'S THERE BY THE DEVELOPER OR IS THAT A CITY PROJECT? BECAUSE IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MONSTER.
RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE LAST GEO TUBES FROM BEFORE HURRICANE IKE.
OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT WAS PUT IN BEFORE.
BEFORE HURRICANE IKE. THAT'S ONE OF THE LASTING GEO TUBES.
SO THAT'S ONE I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY EXISTING GEO TUBE AFTER HURRICANE IKE.
AND THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY.
THE COUNTY, THE STATE. IT'S JUST THE BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.
THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
[6.B.1. 24P-034 (1802 –1920 Harborside) Request For A Change Of Zoning From Commercial (C) To Heavy Industrial (HI) Zoning District. Properties Are Legally Described As Lots 8 –11, Block 738; Lots 8 –14, Block 739, And Part Of Adjacent 19th Street, In The City And County Of Galveston Texas. Applicant: Stephen G. Schulz Property Owner: Harbor Properties]
YEAH. THIS IS 1802 THROUGH 1920 HARBORSIDE, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.[00:35:02]
25 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT TO THOSE RETURNED, BOTH IN OPPOSITION.WE RECEIVED NO OBJECTION FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS OR PRIVATE UTILITIES.
IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
THE APPLICANT'S INTENT IS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AS A PARKING LOT.
COMMERCIAL SERVICE, PARKING AREA, LAND USE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
THEREFORE, THIS REQUEST DOES NOT AFFECT COMPATIBILITY.
THIS IS THE ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTIES.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, SIR.
IS THERE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE ABOUT INCREASING THIS KIND OF PARK, THIS KIND OF FACILITY, PROPOSED FACILITY? WILL THERE BE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE TO DETERMINE HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT HARBORSIDE DRIVE? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE REQUESTED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
TYPICALLY, HE'LL DO THAT AT PERMITTING.
OKAY. SO ADRIEL I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
SO THIS IS THE STUFF THAT'S TO THE NORTH OF THERE IS ZONED HIGH.
CORRECT. AND THE STUFF THAT'S TO THE WEST IS COMMERCIAL.
YES, SIR. AND THE STUFF TO THE WEST IS PARKING ALSO, ISN'T IT? CORRECT. SO IS PARKING PERMITTED IN A C ZONE? NO. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE OF ZONING.
THE NECESSITY FOR THE CHANGE OF ZONING IS EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THAT.
THE COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
OH, SO WHERE THE PARKING IS FURTHER TO THE WEST, IT'S PRIOR TO THAT, PROVIDED IT'S PART OF IT'S WHAT'S THE TERMINOLOGY YOU GUYS USE WHERE IT'S PART OF THE USE THAT'S THERE FOR THOSE RESTAURANTS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? OH, HE WAS. HE WAS RATHER TALL.
THAT HURTS. I'M STEVE SCHULTZ.
I'VE MET MANY, IF NOT ALL OF YOU.
I REPRESENT HARBOR PROPERTIES, WHICH IS NOT DISCLOSED IN THE APPLICATION, BUT THAT IS A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF SEALY AND SMITH FOUNDATION, WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE SINCE 1922 IS SUPPORTING JOHN SEALY HOSPITAL.
UTMB, AND UTMB USED TO USE THIS FOR STORAGE.
IT WAS THE LIPTON TEA BUILDING.
THEY TOOK IT DOWN WHEN UTMB HAD NO USE FOR IT, RECONVEYED IT TO SEALY-SMITH FOUNDATION, WHO IN TURN THEN PUT IT IN THE WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY HARBOR PROPERTIES.
ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, AND I'LL SIGN IT AT THE END, IS THERE'S A BETTER MAP OF THAT AREA IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE WE'D CALL THIS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH OF THAT, THOSE THREE LOTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
SO IT DEFINITELY IS COMPATIBLE.
AND WHILE THOSE OTHER ITEMS ARE USED FOR THE RESTAURANTS, THEY WERE THERE LONG BEFORE 2015, WHEN THE LDRS WERE ADOPTED.
THAT TOOK AWAY THE ABILITY TO HAVE A SURFACE PARKING LOT IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THOSE RESTAURANTS WERE BUILT.
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GEORGE MITCHELL COULD TELL YOU, BUT HE'S NOT AROUND AT THIS POINT TO TELL YOU THAT.THE THE THE GENTLEMAN HERE IS A NEIGHBOR OF MINE LIVES DOWN THE STREET FROM ME.
HE OWNS THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HARBORSIDE CALLED THE PEANUT BUTTER WAREHOUSE.
AND HIS PROBLEM WAS, I STUPIDLY PUT IN THE APPLICATION SURFACE PARKING LOT SLASH PARKING GARAGE, AND HE WAS WORRIED THAT THAT WOULD AFFECT THE VIEW FROM HIS BUILDING FOR HIS TENANTS AND PEOPLE HAVING THING WHILE THERE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, SINCE 1860 THERE IS NO VIEW EASEMENT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT IS NOT REDUCED TO WRITING AGREED TO BY THE PARTIES AND PAID CONSIDERATION FOR.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT ON OTHER CASES.
I USED TO KEEP A LITTLE FOLDER THAT HAD THE THREE SUPREME COURT CASES SINCE 1860.
THAT TELLS YOU THAT, BUT [INAUDIBLE] PROBLEM IS NOT A PROBLEM, EXCEPT MY STUPIDITY IN THE APPLICATION.
AND ADRIEL CORRECTED ME FOUR AND A HALF FIVE WEEKS AGO SAID, YOU CAN'T DO THAT PARKING GARAGE.
SO ALL THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS THE CHANGE OF ZONING.
IT'S GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.
SO IS THIS PARKING FOR THE, LIKE, LANDRY'S AND ALL THAT OVER THERE, OR IS THIS CRUISE SHIP PARKING? IT WILL BE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PAY FOR IT.
AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY CAN FILL IT UP ALL DAY LONG WITH THOSE PEOPLE.
BUT THERE'S THERE'S NO WAY TO DISCRIMINATE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO PARK THERE BECAUSE IT'S MORE CONVENIENT THAN ONE OF THE OTHER LOTS THAT YOU'D HAVE TO PAY FOR. YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO.
IS THIS THE ONE WE SAW, LIKE ON THE 20TH? NO. NO, THIS IS A DIFFERENT CASE.
THIS THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS FURTHER CLOSER TO THE UTMB, SO I.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO I HAVE IT'S KIND OF A STAFF QUESTION TOO.
SO A PORTION OF THAT WAS ALREADY PARKING FOR ADJACENT USES.
WHAT ABOUT LANDSCAPING ALONG HARBORSIDE THERE AND I DON'T KNOW.
OR DO WE HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS ON THAT? MAYBE THIS IS A BETTER STAFF QUESTION.
YES, SIR. SO ACTUALLY, THE USE OF COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING, IT IS NOT AN OUTRIGHT PERMITTED USE.
OKAY. PART OF THE LIMITED STANDARDS IS MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT LANDSCAPING, FENCING AND PAVING REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO THE DESIGN LAYOUT OF THE PARKING LOT.
OKAY. ALL OF THAT IS COVERED BY THE LIMITATIONS OR THE LIMITED STANDARDS.
YES, SIR. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IS YOU GUYS, WHAT'S FIXING TO HAPPEN HERE IS UTMB IS FIXING TO GET BE THE BENEFICIARY OF A CRUISE PARKING.
WOULD THAT BE A FAR FETCHED STATEMENT? A FAIR STATEMENT. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CAN DISCUSS THIS FURTHER.
BUT I CAN SEE WHERE OTHER USERS WOULD USE THAT.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
THANK YOU. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
YOU GET THREE MINUTES TO TELL US YOUR LIFE STORY.
MY NAME IS JERRY STARKEY AND I AM A NEIGHBOR OF STEVE'S.
WE HAD I JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I JUST RECEIVED THIS PACKAGE ON SATURDAY, AND I DID OBJECT TO IT, BUT IT WAS ON THE BASIS OF WHAT STEVE MENTIONED IS THE GARAGE PARKING IS SOMETHING THAT NOT MY TENANTS AND I OWN OTHER PROPERTIES THAT IMPACTED BY THIS.
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AS LONG AS IT'S JUST SURFACE PARKING, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.BUT IF IT'S GOING TO TRY TO BUILD STRUCTURES ON IT, THAT'S WHEN THE PROBLEMS COME IN.
SO IF IT'S UNDERSTOOD, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE DOCUMENT, THERE WAS A GARAGE.
AND I DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH STEVE ON SUNDAY.
THAT I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS AS LONG AS IT'S SURFACE PARKING AND IT'S GENERAL PUBLIC.
THEY CERTAINLY NEED IT DOWNTOWN.
ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
WE NEED TO GET YOU TO SIGN IN AND GIVE US YOUR NAME.
I LIVE IN THE EAST END, AND I'M HERE FOR A TOTALLY DIFFERENT REASON.
BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL KIND OF EMBROILED ABOUT THE BATTLESHIP TEXAS, AND THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NOW, AND IT REALLY BOTHERS ME TO HEAR ALL ABOUT THIS, THAT SOMETHING MIGHT BE APPROVED, THAT MIGHT TOTALLY CHANGE THE WHOLE DISCUSSION OF THAT ISSUE.
ANYBODY ELSE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE 24P-034.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES. YES, SIR.
SO THE APPLICANT WOULD, IF THIS IS APPROVED, AND THE APPLICANT WOULD RETURN TO REQUEST HOW THEY'LL GO ABOUT FULFILLING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LIMITED USE. YES, SIR.
THE APPLICANT WILL SEEK A PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT THE COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING LOT.
OKAY. AND ARE THERE ANY REGULATIONS CURRENTLY FOR THIS KIND OF FACILITY REGARDING LIGHTING, ECONOMICAL LIGHTING? I KNOW WE HAD A BIG ISSUE IN THE EAST END WHEN THEY INSTALLED THESE CRAZY LIGHTS THAT WERE MESSING UP THE BIRDS AND ALL OF THAT IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
ACTUALLY PART OF MY JOB, ACTUALLY, WHEN WE REVIEW COMMERCIAL PERMITS IS TO IS TO LOOK FOR A REVIEW FOR LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING OBVIOUSLY USE AND THOSE SORTS OF ISSUES.
ARE THERE PARTICULAR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TYPE OF LIGHTING TO BE USED? IT HAS TO BE FULL CUTOFF LIGHTING.
THE LIGHT, THE FREESTANDING FIXTURES NO MORE THAN 25FT TALL.
AND A PARKING LOT LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE.
HOW FAR? HOW HIGH? OFF THE MAIN STREET.
I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE I SAID, THAT THE LIGHT, THE LIGHTING FIXTURE ITSELF COULD BE UP TO UP TO 25FT.
OKAY. SO THIS WILL COME UP WHEN THE NEW THE NEXT APPLICATION OR PART OF THE PROCESS.
PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? YES, SIR.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE.
WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
SO THAT HAS A CITY COUNCIL HEARING, DOESN'T IT? YES. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHAIRMAN.
SO THE FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS FINAL DECISION REGARDING CHANGES OF ZONING.
AND THEY WILL HEAR THIS REQUEST ON OCTOBER 24TH 24.
[6.B.2. 24P-035 (1001 Winnie/Avenue G) Request For A Change Of Zoning From Urban Neighborhood (UN) To Residential, Single-Family (R-3). Property Is Legally Described As M. B. Menard Survey (310-0-0), Block 310, And Portion Of Adjacent 11th Street, In The City And County Of Galveston Texas. Applicant: Matthew Neighbors, Superintendent Property Owner: Galveston Independent School District]
24-033. IT'S ACTUALLY THREE FIVE.36 NOTICES WERE SENT, THREE RETURNED, TWO IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.
THERE WERE NO COMMENTS FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS OR PRIVATE UTILITIES.
THIS IS THE SITE OF ROSENBERG SCHOOL, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE GALVESTON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE SITE MIGHT BE SOLD OR OTHERWISE MADE AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THE GISD BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS DIRECTED THEIR STAFF TO APPLY FOR THIS REZONING REQUEST.
THE NARRATIVE STATES THAT THE R-3 ZONING WOULD BE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
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ONE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MUST CONSIDER ALL POTENTIAL FUTURE USES THAT WILL BECOME PERMITTED SHOULD THE REQUEST BE FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BE APPROVED.BOTH THE R-3 AND UN DISTRICTS ALLOW FOR A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
HOWEVER, IN UN, COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED ON PROPERTIES WITH FRONTAGE ON THE NUMBERED STREETS, WHILE IN R-3 THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED ONLY IN IDENTIFIED CORNER STORE LOCATIONS. THOSE LOCATIONS ARE LISTED IN THE R-3 ADDENDUM IN ARTICLE THREE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
THE R3 ZONING DISTRICT IS THE BASE ZONED USED WITHIN THE CITY'S RESIDENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS, BUT R-3 DOES NOT INCLUDE HISTORIC RESTRICTIONS, AND THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION IS CARRIED BY THE H ZONING.
THE PROPOSED REZONING DOES NOT INCLUDE THE HISTORIC OVERLAY.
PLEASE NOTE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
NO DEVELOPMENT PLANS HAVE BEEN PROPOSED FOR THE SITE.
THIS IS A ZONING MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS THE SITE OF THE ROSENBERG ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND WE HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE SCHOOL ITSELF.
AND THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CATHERINE.
OKAY. SO COMMISSIONER EDWARDS HAS A CONFLICT, SO SHE'S GOING TO EXCUSE HERSELF FOR ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. CATHERINE, CAN YOU HELP US OUT AND JUST GIVE US THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UN VERSUS R3? UN IS MORE PERMISSIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE RESIDENTIAL USES AND MULTI-FAMILY USES.
SO R3 IS FOR A SITE LIKE THIS IS REALLY JUST WOULD ALLOW IF IT WAS SUBDIVIDED, ALLOW FOR EACH LOT TO HAVE ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE AND ONE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD ALLOWS FOR UP TO EIGHT UNITS ON A LOT.
SO THAT'S A THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
AND THEN ALSO URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL USES ON THE NUMBERED STREETS.
SO 10TH STREET WOULD THAT THOSE LOTS WOULD BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR COMMERCIAL USES IN UN.
IT'S NOT THE CASE IN IN R3 BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE R3.
THEY'D BE RIGHT. THEY'D BE R3.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
OKAY. IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO THINGS THAT ARE OF A COMMUNITY BENEFIT, LIKE A PARK OR A SCHOOL.
OKAY. THIS IS IN PART OF OUR HISTORICAL AREA.
WHAT HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO THE HISTORICAL ASPECTS OF WHATEVER'S BUILT THERE? BUT THIS IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN IS THE R3, WHICH ALSO IS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMES ALONG 10TH STREET.
KIND OF BUMPS IN TO EXCLUDE THE SCHOOL IN THE PARK AND THEN CONTINUES BACK ON 10TH STREET.
SO THIS IS RIGHT AT THE BOUNDARY.
AND THE PROPOSAL IS NOT TO ADD IT INTO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO IT WOULD JUST GO THROUGH OUR REGULAR DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS.
THE PARK IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST.
THE PARK IS NOT. NO, THE PARK IS CITY PARK OWNED BY THE CITY.
THE CITY OWNS THE PARK. HE OWNS THE PARK.
I SAW THE, OF COURSE, BETWEEN R3 AND UN, BUT WHAT ABOUT R3 VERSUS R2 AND R1 IS THAT LOT SIZE DIFFERENCE? WELL, THE NUMBERS JUST CORRESPOND TO THE NUMBER OF HOURS ZONES THAT WE HAVE.
SO THE THREE DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING EXCEPT IT'S THE THIRD OF THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES IN LOT SIZES WITH THE UN IN R3.
I'M LOOKING TO ADRIEL TO HELP ME OUT.
YEAH. LOT SIZES THAT ARE ONE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN R3.
R3 IS MORE SIMILAR TO UN AS THE LOT AREA REQUIRED.
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WOULD THAT BE A FAIR STATEMENT? LIKE IT'S MORE COMPATIBLE THAN THE THAN THE UN.AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE ARE COMMERCIAL USES PERMITTED UNDER R3.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE AND SEEM KIND OF STRANGE, BUT IF SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT IT SAYS RESTAURANT, RETAIL, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, NOT RETAIL, BIG BOX RETAIL, COMMERCIAL OR RESTAURANT WITH NO DRIVE THRU.
THOSE ARE PERMITTED USES UNDER R3.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE AN IDENTIFIED COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND THAT'S REALLY INTENDED FOR THE ESTABLISHED HISTORIC CORNER STORES TO BE ABLE TO BE REUSED FOR, FOR A COMMERCIAL USE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS HERE.
SO IT'S IN THE EXISTING BUILDING.
YEAH. SO IT HAS TO BE IN A LIST THAT'S HOUSED IN THE ADDENDUM, THE R3 ADDENDUM IN ARTICLE THREE.
SO THIS IS STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO WITH VACANT LAND.
IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY MUCH LIMITED TO RESIDENTIAL.
YES, BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE TOWNHOUSES.
THEY'RE JUST SINGLE DETACHED DWELLINGS.
LET ME LOOK UP TOWNHOUSES QUICKLY.
I THINK TOWNHOUSE HAS A DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.
OKAY. CONSENSUS HERE IS NO, IT'S NOT ALLOWED.
MY PARENTS WENT TO ROSENBERG SCHOOL.
THIS IS LIKE IT'S REALLY SAD FOR ME TO SEE.
LIKE, THE R-2 DISTRICT IS MOSTLY OUR TOWNHOME TOWNHOUSE SORT OF DISTRICT.
R3 ALSO ALLOWS FOR RENTAL PROPERTY VRBOS LIKE R2, IT'S A PERMITTED THERE AS A LIMITED USE.
SO THERE ARE SOME PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND A PROHIBITION ON SIGNAGE.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
R3 THERE ARE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT COME WITHIN R3.
OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY, I GOT ANOTHER ONE.
WHAT ABOUT ON STREET PARKING? THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED THERE, WOULDN'T IT? OH, WELL, YES, BUT YOU COULD HAVE YOUR ONE ON THE STREET.
IT DOES HAVE TO BE OFF STREET.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT THEN WE'LL OPEN THIS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, SIR. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MATTHEW NEIGHBORS, SUPERINTENDENT OF GALVESTON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO CAN I ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF DESCRIBING THE ISSUE SO FAR.
NO I MEAN, IF I HAD A QUESTION, I THINK IT APPEARS TO ME.
IT KIND OF WORKS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND LIVE.
SOMEBODY'S BUILDING A BUNCH OF TOWNHOUSES OR WHO KNOWS WHAT HIGH RISES APARTMENT PROJECT.
SO AND THE PROPERTY, I THINK IMPORTANTLY, THE PROPERTY BUTTS UP TO A CITY PARK.
AND THIS WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL.
AND SO WE BELIEVE WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT WITH THIS APPLICATION.
ATTORNEY MAY CUT ME OFF FOR MY EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO THIS, BUT I JUST CURIOUS THAT THE BUILDING ITSELF, YOU KNOW, OFFERS SO MUCH POSSIBILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S SO MUCH THAT COULD BE DONE IN THAT BUILDING FOR STUDENTS, FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED DAYCARE, WHO NEED ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THAT AREA.
SO IT'S JUST I WAS REALLY SHOCKED WHEN I SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA, AND I JUST WAS REALLY BAFFLED THAT THIS, THAT THE GISD BOARD COULDN'T FIND A BETTER USE FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD REALLY BENEFIT THE ENTIRE ISLAND.
THERE'S SO MUCH THAT COULD BE DONE IN THAT BUILDING, AND I'M SAD TO SEE THAT GO WELL.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT BUILDING WOULD BE DEMOLISHED.
I CAN'T SEE LITTLE CONDOS IN THERE THAT.
BUT AT ANY RATE, I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX.
THERE'S A LOT OF ATTACHMENT TO THAT SCHOOL FOR SEVERAL GENERATIONS OF MY FAMILY HERE IN GALVESTON.
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SO YEAH. THAT'S IT.ANYBODY ELSE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SIR.
OH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WELL, NOT FOR NOT FOR HIM, BUT NOTICE IN THE WAY THE PLAT IS LAID OUT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A BUILDING THAT'S DIVIDED.
BETWEEN. IF I'M LOOKING ON THE CAD.
YES, SIR. SO THAT AT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING IS THE GYMNASIUM.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT RISES ABOVE.
SO YOU SEE A DIFFERENT ELEVATION ON THE CEILINGS OF THOSE TWO.
WELL, ONE SIDE BELONGS TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON.
THE OTHER SIDE BELONGS TO ISD.
THOSE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS AREN'T 100% ACCURATE.
THEY TEND TO GET A LITTLE SKEWED OFF.
SO IT IT'S PROBABLY THAT THE PROPERTY LINE IS JUST AT THE END OF THE BUILDING.
I LET'S TRY TO MAKE A GOOD CATCH.
ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR.
MA'AM, PLEASE SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME.
I'M REBECCA JAWORSKI AND I LIVE AT 1028 WINNIE.
SO I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL.
DUMPSTER IS REALLY THE MOST ACCURATE DESCRIPTION.
AND I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO RETURNED A NOTICE.
I'M STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I WAS SO SAD TO SEE THE SCHOOL CLOSE, BUT OBVIOUSLY GISD HAS A FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS, AND I TOTALLY GET THAT.
BUT THIS I'M REALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS.
IT'S BEEN WITH THE PARK AND THE SCHOOL SUCH A KEY PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO ENSURE THAT CHANGES MADE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING FORWARD.
EVEN IN THE PART THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.
WHAT YOU NOTICE IS THAT IT'S GOT LOTS AND LOTS OF LITTLE BUILDINGS.
THOSE ARE HOUSES, AND SOME OF THEM GET USED FROM TIME TO TIME FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
BUT THEY ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, SO KEEPING THE USE OF THE PROPERTY COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND TO MY HUSBAND.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? I'M ELIZABETH BEATON AND I AM THE TRUSTEE ON THE GALVESTON ISD SCHOOL BOARD FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
DISTRICT ONE A INCLUDES THE ROSENBERG SCHOOL AND THE ROSENBERG SCHOOL PROPERTY, AND THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS APPROACHED BY THE EAST END NEIGHBORHOOD. EAST END HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
EAST END HISTORIC DISTRICT ASSOCIATION ASKING THE SCHOOL BOARD TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT THIS THIS HAS BEEN A SCHOOL AT THIS LOCATION FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PUT UP WITH SOME NEGATIVES FROM THE SCHOOL, SUCH AS THE PARKING AND THE DUMPSTER AND SO FORTH, BUT ALSO BENEFITED A GREAT DEAL FROM THE SCHOOL.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE TODAY WHO TAUGHT AT THE SCHOOL AND HAD THEIR CHILDREN ATTENDED THE SCHOOL.
SO THEY WERE SAD TO SEE THE SCHOOL CLOSED, BUT THEY ASKED THE SCHOOL BOARD TO TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY ASKING THE CITY TO REZONE THE PROPERTY SO THAT ANYTHING THAT IS DEVELOPED THERE ULTIMATELY WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SIR? DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? I'M ACTUALLY 1013 WALL STREET FROM THE SPEAKING IS COME FORWARD.
SO VERY POSITIVE. NICK FOTHERINGHAM 1013 BALL STREET.
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SO THE PICTURE WHERE THAT CONE IS, THAT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE THERE, BUT THAT CONE IS WHEREVER IS WHERE MY HOUSE IS.I AGREE WITH THIS THIS FAMILY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT WHAT? NOT ALLOWING IT TO BE BUT ALSO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY OF IN THAT BUILDING.
RIGHT? I HEAR A LOT OF SENTIMENT IN HERE SAYING, OH, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE BUILDING? AND THEN THIS FAMILY, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THERE.
SO WHEN WHOEVER IS GOING TO BUY THE SPACE AND I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF POSSIBLY OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AREA I OWN A COUPLE BUSINESSES, BANGARANG HOLDINGS.
SO FROM SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ACROSS THE STREET, RIGHT.
WHEN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES COME UP, I'LL ALSO BE HERE.
BUT TO NOT ALLOW IT TO TURN INTO AN APARTMENT BUILDING OR ANYTHING THAT'S HIGH ABOVE I CAME HERE BECAUSE MY FATHER WAS IN THE COAST GUARD HERE, AND HE DIED BEFORE I GOT HERE.
AND LONG STORY IS, I FEEL CONNECTED WITH HIM.
AND WHEN I DROVE DOWN THAT STREET, IT WAS PEACEFUL.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
BUT ALSO, LET'S KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO STILL GROW AND DEVELOP IN A COMMUNITY.
SO AND IT IS A WONDERFUL BUILDING.
I LOOK AT IT EVERY NIGHT BEFORE I GO TO BED ON THE BALCONY.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
NICK FOTHERINGHAM, 1013 BALL STREET.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, WELL HE'S SIGNING IN.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO COMMISSION FOR ACTION.
GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.
24-035. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SAY I THINK IT'S BOLD MOVE BY THE GUILD.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF NEW DEVELOPMENT OR A CERTAIN LEVEL OF NEW ANTICIPATED NEWNESS, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHAT OUR LAST GENTLEMAN SAID SOME EXCITEMENT OF WHAT CAN COME FROM THIS AND HOW WE CAN STILL HONOR, YOU KNOW, THE PAST AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
BUT THERE'S STILL A CONNECTION TO THOSE, TO THOSE LOCATIONS.
AND BUT WITH THE LEVEL OF NEWNESS AND NEW REPURPOSING OF SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN OCCUR, AND IT'S EXCITING TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WILL BENEFIT THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE, AND IT WILL ALSO FIT NICELY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, MA'AM. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS AND DOING WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ASKED YOU TO DO.
ANTHONY, I'M SORRY IF IT DOESN'T GET REPURPOSED.
I'M SURE YOU GOT YOUR FIRST KISS OVER THERE SOMEWHERE, BUT WE'LL MARKER THAT SPOT.
ANYWAYS. [INAUDIBLE] YOUR HOMEROOM, BUT NO, I JUST.
MY HAT'S OFF TO ALL OF YOU HERE THAT ARE HERE ON THIS.
IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN THE CHAIR HERE AND YOU GUYS DO THAT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
20 4-034 I'M SORRY 035 IS APPROVED.
AND I'LL JUST NOTE THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION REGARDING CHANGE OF ZONING REQUESTS.
AND WE'LL HEAR THIS REQUEST ON OCTOBER 24TH.
[6.C.1. 24P-033 (4404 Avenue O) Request For Designation As A Galveston Landmark. The Property Is Legally Described As Abstract 628 Page 107, Lots 46 And 47, Zinn And Cheeseborough Subdivision, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Edward Timmons Property Owners: Edward Timmons And James Benson]
DANIEL. ALL RIGHTY.[01:10:04]
4404 AVENUE.THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
CAN I GIVE HIM A MINUTE? YEAH, THERE WAS A FOUR, FOUR STORY, 3 OR 4 STORY BUILDING IN THIS OLD, OLD VINTAGE LOOK.
IT'S GOT TORN DOWN AFTER HURRICANE CARLA WOULD HAVE BEEN CARLA.
YEAH, BECAUSE MY AND THEN THERE WAS A TEACHER I HAD IN SECOND GRADE WHO TAUGHT MY PARENTS.
ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. SO THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION 4404 AVENUE O.
THERE WERE 27 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT.
TWO OF THOSE RETURNED. BOTH THOSE IN FAVOR.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE LEWIS AND CATHERINE FOX HOUSE.
NORMALLY THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH JOHN STAUB.
SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A TIE IN.
LOUIS FOX AND HIS WIFE, CATHERINE, ARE BOTH LIFELONG GALVESTONIANS HAD ONE CHILD TOGETHER.
AND CATHERINE'S FAMILY ALSO WAS THEY HAD SOME BUSINESSES IN GALVESTON AS WELL.
FOR EXAMPLE, A STEVEDORING COMPANY CALLED DOLSON AND NELSON.
ALSO SERVED AS ASSISTANT MANAGER, AMERICAN TITLE GUARANTY COMPANY.
BOTH THOSE FOLKS WERE ALSO PROMINENT GALVESTONIANS AND DEVELOPERS FOR THE MOST PART.
HARVIN MOORE AND HERMAN LLOYD WERE THE ARCHITECTS OF RECORD.
AND AS I STATED, THIS HOUSE WAS TAKES A LOT OF VISUAL CUES FROM A JOHN STAUB HOUSES.
THEY BOTH WORKED IN RIVER OAKS PRETTY EXTENSIVELY IN HOUSTON.
SO THERE IS A TIE IN THERE AS WELL.
LANDMARK COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT THEIR SEPTEMBER 16TH MEETING.
OF COURSE. CITY COUNCIL HAVE THE FINAL DECISION AT THEIR OCTOBER 24TH MEETING.
HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
SEEING NONE WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, SIR.
WHY DON'T YOU COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME, SIGN IN AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY.
AND COMING FROM THE 1935-36 AREA.
CERTAINLY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS WITH THAT.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CAN WE VOTE ON THIS? IS THIS AN ACTION ITEM? AND WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.
I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE 24P-033.
SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.
24P-033. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.
THOSE IN FAVOR? THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 24P-033.
24P-030. THIS IS ADJACENT TO 302 21ST
[6.D.1. 24P-030 (Adjacent To 302 21st Street/Moody) Request For A License To Use To Retain Construction Fencing And Scaffolding. Adjacent Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, Lots 1, 2 And West 18 Feet Of Lot 3 (1-1), Block 560, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Dakota Courville Adjacent Property Owner: Galveston 302 21st Street, LLC Easement Holder: City Of Galveston]
STREET. THIS, THERE WERE 12 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT.NO OBJECTION FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS OR PRIVATE UTILITIES.
IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A LICENSE TO USE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO RETAIN CONSTRUCTION, FENCING AND SCAFFOLDING ASSOCIATED WITH ONGOING RENOVATIONS TO THE BUILDING. THE APPLICANT REQUESTED THE CONSTRUCTION.
FENCING AND SCAFFOLDING REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT PLACE FOR 12 ADDITIONAL MONTHS.
NO PAID PARKING IS AFFECTED BY THIS LTU REQUEST.
DUE TO THE DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK.
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SEPTEMBER 16TH, AND THEY VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.AND NOW WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.
THIS IS THE AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OR PROPERTY SHOWING THE ITEMS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND HERE ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? CERTAINLY. WHAT'S THE CHARGE FOR THE LICENSE IN THIS CASE? IT'S A PLANNING COMMISSION LTU SO IT'S 125.
ANNUAL? NO, NO, THIS IS FOR THE APPLICATION, YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ADRIEL. SO HOW LONG HAVE THEY HAD? HOW LONG IS THIS? HOW LONG HAVE THEY HAD THEIR CURRENT LTU HERE? DO YOU KNOW THE.
THE TEMPORARY LICENSES EXPIRED A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
SO THIS IS JUST TO RE-UP? ACTUALLY, THIS IS TO GET THEM BACK INTO.
YEAH. THIS IS NOW THEIR ONLY COURSE OF ACTION.
THEY'VE ALREADY EXHAUSTED THEIR TLTU TIME FRAME.
SO THIS IS THE CORRECT PATH TO TAKE NOW, WHICH IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION LTU.
OKAY. BUT THIS IS THEIR REQUEST IS TEMPORARY.
YEAH. THIS IS QUITE INTERESTING BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE BRING THESE ITEMS TO YOU GUYS.
BUT THEY'RE, I GUESS HOW I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT IS SEMI-PERMANENT.
AND THERE IS A CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, STATES THE TIME OR DATE OF REMOVAL.
IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS IT IS CORRECT THAT TIME IN ALL OF THEM? YEAH. USUALLY. USUALLY MOST OF THE LTUS THAT YOU GUYS SEE WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT A YEAR OR SO.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S THE TIME FRAME THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN APPROVING IN THE PAST.
SO TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THEY HAVE A TIME FRAME.
IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2025.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? DO THEY HAVE TO BE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THIS? IS SOMEBODY WORKING ON THIS PROPERTY? I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD.
YEAH. I MEAN, WE I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUILDING. ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL, JUST ONE MORE CONCERNING THE TIME FRAME.
SO THEY HAD A PREVIOUS ONE YEAR LTU.
CORRECT. PREVIOUSLY, IT WAS ONE YEAR.
THE TIME FRAME TYPICALLY FOR TLTUS ARE ROUGHLY 120 DAYS OR SO.
OKAY, SO THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A YEAR.
ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, SIR.
TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON.
HI. MY NAME IS DAKOTA COURVILLE, VICE PRESIDENT AT ITEX.
SO YOU ARE WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM? I'M WITH THE DEVELOPER. OKAY.
SO I THINK THE OBVIOUS QUESTION IS, IS WHAT'S WHEN ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO BE DONE WITH THAT? A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, BUT PRIOR TO MY INVOLVEMENT, THEY WERE WORKING ON AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT COMPOUNDED WITH COST.
OBVIOUSLY INFLATION AND RATES MADE IT UNFEASIBLE.
THE SCALPING ISSUE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING, ONE OF THE PATHS FORWARD, WHICH TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, WAS WE WERE WONDERING IF WE JUST REMOVE ALL THE SCAFFOLDING AND DO A NETTING SYSTEM, WHICH WOULD GIVE BACK THE LTU AND OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE A LOT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
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WHICH WOULD BE GETTING IT UP TO THE HISTORICAL CODE, BUT ALSO STARTING TO DRY IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE THE BUILDING I JUST WAS THERE TODAY SHE'S SEEN BETTER DAYS.SHE NEEDS TO BE DRAWED IN AND WE NEED THE SCAFFOLDING THERE FOR THAT TO BE PUT IN PLACE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE IS THERE A WORK CURRENTLY HAPPENING ON THE PROPERTY? YES, THERE IS WORK CURRENTLY GOING ON IN THE PROPERTY, NOT FOR RESTORATION, BUT KEEPING THE SCAFFOLDING IN COMPLIANCE WITH OSHA REQUIREMENTS.
OKAY. AND WILL THIS 12 MONTH PERIOD GIVE YOUR CLIENT THE TIME THAT THEY NEED FOR WHATEVER THIS NEXT PHASE IS? WE SHOULD KNOW SHORTLY HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND BEING ABLE TO EITHER ABANDON THE PROJECT OR PUSH IT THROUGH.
SO YES, THE 12 MONTHS WOULD BE PLENTY OF TIME.
WHO'S THE OWNER? OWNERS ITEX GROUP, WHICH IS WHO I WORK WITH.
OKAY. WHAT WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME OVER THERE. I WOULD ALSO STATE WE'RE THE SAME DEVELOPER WHO DID 2101 CHURCH STREET, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE WAY, WHICH WE BOUGHT IN ALMOST NEARLY THE SAME CONDITION AND REHABBED.
THIS PROJECT HAS REALLY JUST SUFFERED FROM.
WE WERE ABOUT TO START IN MARCH OF 22 OR MARCH OF 2020.
THEN WE CAME UP WITH ANOTHER PLAN.
SO, IT'S BEEN A COMPOUNDING EFFECT.
WE'RE IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION NOW ON THE GO FORWARD BUT NOT MAKING ANY SOLITUDE.
BUT PLEASE KNOW AND I JUST IT'S NOT JUST THE ESTHETICS OF IT.
YOU KNOW IT'S ALSO THE SIDEWALKS BEING CLOSED FOR A VERY LONG TIME TOO.
AND THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD ANYBODY ASK ABOUT IT.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS WHERE THAT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.
NOW, I GUESS THEY CAN WALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE COST INVOLVED IN DOING THAT TO WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY USE THE SIDEWALK? AND COMPARING REPAIRS OF JUST THE SCAFFOLDING TO TAKING IT DOWN AND PUTTING THE NET.
SO IT'S MONEY. IT'S NOT SOMETHING REASONABLE.
BUT I'VE SEEN WHERE THESE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN REHABBED BEFORE.
SO LOOK, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HELP YOU GET IT DONE.
AND AT LEAST I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO THROW ANY STUMBLING BLOCKS IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO THAT'S JUST [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S MY COMMENT.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT LET YOU GUYS.
DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY? YOU SAID YOU THEY'LL MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER TO ABANDON THE PROJECT OR MOVE FORWARD.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? I MIGHT HAVE MISHEARD ME.
WHAT I WAS SAYING IS WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON GETTING THE PROJECT REHABBED, WHERE THE PROJECT WOULD EITHER BE AT USE OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, EITHER APARTMENT OR THE OTHER USES THAT WE'RE EXPLORING.
SO I GUESS WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SAID IS WE WANT AN ACTIONABLE PLAN THAT NOT ONLY HAS VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO IS FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. THAT'S WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SAID.
BUT THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A SECOND CHANCE.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A SECOND CHANCE.
I KNOW ON A SIMILAR STRUCTURE IN THE AREA WAS ACTUALLY ON THE STRAND, BUT IS YOUR CLIENT ARE YOU DEALING WITH UNDER A TIME CRUNCH FOR ANY HISTORICAL FEDERAL TAX CREDITS? SO THE PROPERTY HAS APPLIED FOR HISTORICAL FEDERAL AND STATE TAX CREDITS.
WE HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD.
BUT, NO, WE'RE UNDER NO TIME CRUNCH WITH HISTORIC.
WE'RE UNDER A TIME CRUNCH OF JUST THE FACT THAT THIS BUILDING IS SITTING IN SALT AIR OPENED.
AND EVERY, EVERY WEEK, EVERY YEAR, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING WRONG WITH IT.
AND NO ONE WANTS TO COMPLETED MORE THAN THE OWNERSHIP OF IT.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. THANK YOU SIR.
ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
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SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO COMMISSION FOR ACTION.I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE 24P-030.
SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE 24P-030.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
HAVE THERE BEEN ANY PROBLEMS WITH STREET PARKING? I SEE SOME AUTOS SOME AUTOMOBILES HERE.
IS THAT PAID PARKING? LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE DOWNTOWN.
YEAH. IT'S NOT AFFECTED, THOUGH.
IT'S NOT AFFECTED BY PAID PARKING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.
THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT, SIR.
GOING TO THE LAST PAGE OF OUR AGENDA.
NO. WELL, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT PAGES HERE.
[6.D.2. 24P-032 (Adjacent To 415 E. Beach Drive) Request For A License To Use To Encroach The East Beach Drive Right-Of-Way For Placement Of A Flock License Plate Reader Camera. Adjacent Property Is Legally Described As Islander East Condo Module, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Alyssa Bolick, Flock Safety Adjacent Property Owners: Islander East Condo Easement Holder: City Of Galveston]
24P-032 IS NEXT, CORRECT? YES. ALL RIGHT.THIS IS ADJACENT TO 415 EAST BEACH DRIVE.
TEN PUBLIC NOTICES THAT WERE SENT.
FIVE OF THOSE RETURNED, FOUR IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.
NO OBJECTIONS FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS OR PRIVATE UTILITIES.
THE CAMERA EQUIPMENT WILL BE MOUNTED TO A 12 FOOT POLE SIMILAR TO A SIGN POLE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, WITH SPECIFIC AND STANDARD CONDITIONS LISTED AS ONE THROUGH NINE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. AND NOW WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.
THIS IS THE AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS A SUBJECT SITE AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ADRIEL, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH FROM THESE PHOTOGRAPHS.
SO IS THIS PROPOSED THE EASEMENT? THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS TO THE EAST OF THAT SIGN WE SEE.
AND. AND HOW? HOW MANY FEET ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THIS IS JUST A POLE.
THIS IS LITERALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXHIBITS, IT'S LITERALLY A POLE.
AND OF COURSE, THE CAMERA ANGLE.
HOWEVER, THEY FEEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SITUATED.
OKAY. I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK.
IS THERE A CONCERN? YEAH. I'LL PROBABLY LOOK TO LEGAL TO ASSIST ME WITH THIS QUESTION.
SO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONNA FAIRWEATHER.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE CLOSE ENOUGH.
FROM GPD. SO WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING WHAT THE CAMERAS PICK UP, AND.
RIGHT NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT ONLY TAKES THE ONLY READS THE LICENSE PLATES FROM THE BACK, SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING FROM THE AND I BELIEVE THE LOCATION IS SUCH THAT THAT IT IS JUST AS MUCH AS THE CAMERA PICKS UP.
AS FOLKS TRAVEL ON TO EAST BEACH DRIVE.
BUT THE SECOND PART OF THE DISCUSSION, DO YOU HAVE ANY PHONE? SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE OWNER WANTING TO KNOW WHO'S COMING ON THEIR PROPERTY? I GET THAT, BUT FOR A PUBLIC STREET PEOPLE DRIVING UP AND DOWN A PUBLIC STREET IF THIS IS NOT BEING USED BY THE CITY.
AND THAT WAS THE COMMENT THAT WE GOT FROM, FROM SOMEONE WHO RESPONDED WAS THE, THEIR PRIVACY CONCERNS OF PEOPLE USING A PUBLIC STREET AND THEIR LICENSE BEING CAPTURED BY A PRIVATE OWNER.
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WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING, THOUGH, IS HOW THE INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE USED ONCE IT'S GATHERED, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE USED.AND WE'RE NOT THE APPLICANT, THE CITY IS NOT THE APPLICANT.
I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE IN IS THE APPLICANT HERE? OH, THERE'S NOBODY HERE.
INTERESTING. SO, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND HOW YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE LIKE PRIVATE SPEECH, I GUESS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT? YES. SO GALVESTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
EXCUSE ME. ANDRE MITCHELL, ASSISTANT CHIEF FOR GALVESTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT USED THE CAMERAS OUT THERE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE CARS THAT ARE.
PERFORMING ANY TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
SO, IF IT'S A STOLEN CAR, IF IT'S AN AMBER ALERT OR A SILVER ALERT, WE USE THAT INFORMATION TO TRACK DOWN THAT VEHICLE AND TRACK DOWN THE PERSONS INVOLVED.
SO WHO IF THE CITY IS NOT THE APPLICANT? YES. IS IT? THE CONDO ASSOCIATION IS APPLYING FOR THIS.
WHO? WHO WANTS THE CAMERA? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
WITH THE PERMISSION OF ISLANDER EAST CONDO.
BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY.
SO FLOCK SAFETY AND THAT AND USUALLY, SO USUALLY THE WAY JUST OUT OF MY OWN RESEARCH.
USUALLY THE WAY IT IS, THE WAY IT WORKS IS, YOU KNOW, HOA'S WILL CONTACT THEM AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY GO THROUGH A BID PROCESS OR WHATEVER THEY GO THROUGH, AND THEN THEY AGREED ON. AND, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF SURVEILLANCE THAT THEY'LL DEPLOY TO THE SITE.
SO THIS IS YEAH, THIS IS AN AGREEMENT WITH, YOU KNOW, AN ISLANDER EAST CONDO WHO HAS GIVEN PERMISSION FOR THEM TO ERECT THAT POLE ADJACENT TO THEIR, TO THEIR PROPERTY. SO YOU HAVE THE CONDO ASSOCIATION WHO HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CAMERA COMPANY WHO.
YEAH. THAT'S USING THIS TO, YOU KNOW, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, DEFER CRIME IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I KIND OF GET THAT, BUT IT'S KIND OF WEIRD HOW THIS IS PUT TOGETHER.
YEAH. SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE DISTURBED THAT THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY, JUST IN MY CURSORY RESEARCH, HAS FACED A LOT OF SCRUTINY, NOT JUST HERE BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR JUST ALL KINDS OF VIOLATIONS.
AND THEY'RE GETTING UNDER PEOPLE'S SKIN.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE CITY.
SO, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THESE CAN BE ANSWERED HERE RIGHT NOW.
SO, I'LL PUT THEM OUT THERE BECAUSE I WANT TO FIND OUT.
I WANT TO BE TACTFUL IN HOW I SAY THIS.
THE SAME COMPANY THAT WAS DISTURBING.
BUT HERE, AS COMMISSIONER LANTZ IS ASKING, IS IT DOES ISLANDER EAST CONDO BOARD? THEY WANT TO KNOW WHO'S COMING ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THEN THE CAMERA NEEDS TO BE POINTED JUST IN THEIR DRIVEWAY, NOT TO THE MAIN STREET.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THEM WANTING TO SEE WHO'S COMING ONTO THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY RENT ALL THESE UNITS ALL YEAR ROUND.
GOT IT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS, IF THIS SYSTEM IS CONTRACTED WITH THE ISLANDER EAST BOARD, THEN WHAT STAFF MEMBER WHO HAS ACCESS TO THIS DATA IS AT THE FRONT DESK.
CLERK IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CONDO BOARD.
IS IT ANY BLOWHARD WHO SAYS I CAN DO THIS? YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS.
AND THEN WHAT'S THE CITY LIABILITY FOR GRANTING A REQUEST TO PUT THIS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY? IF DOWN THE ROAD SOME VISITOR IS ACCUSED WRONGLY BECAUSE THAT MACHINE SAID IT WAS THEIR CAR.
AND I KNOW THESE SYSTEMS USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FOR A LOT OF THEIR INFORMATION.
SO, THEY MAY SAY THAT KYLE'S GOT KYLE'S CAR WAS GOLD WHEN IT WAS REALLY TAN.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HE DOING ON EAST BEACH DRIVE AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT COMES UP WITH THIS.
BUT I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS AROUND PRIVACY, AROUND CITY LIABILITY ESPECIALLY.
ONCE THIS IS INSTALLED, ETC., ETC.
THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF WAYS TO GET AROUND THAT.
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INSTALLATION OF THESE KINDS OF SYSTEMS IN GALVESTON.SO THOSE ARE MY MAIN QUESTIONS.
HOW LONG IS THE DATA KEPT? 30 DAYS? SIX MONTHS? A YEAR? FOREVER TO THE INTERNET GOES DEAD? I DON'T KNOW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THIS CAN BE ANSWERED HERE, BUT AND I KNOW THAT OTHER HOA'S USE THIS AND BUT THIS PARTICULAR FROM WHAT I'VE READ ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY, THE TECHNOLOGY IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER, AND THEY CAN TAKE PICTURES OF YOU INSIDE YOUR CAR.
SO AND WHAT YOU'RE WEARING AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY.
FOR US TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THIS LICENSE TO USE.
DOES THAT INFER THAT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANT TO APPROVE WHAT IT IS BEING USED FOR, AS IN SECURITY? EITHER WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT A STRUCTURE GOING UPON A RIGHT OF WAY, OR BECAUSE IT'S A LICENSE TO USE.
CAN WE LOOK AT THE PURPOSE OF THE STRUCTURE BEING PUT ON RIGHT OF WAY? SO I'LL ANSWER HOPEFULLY SOME OF THE COMMENTS BY SAYING THE CITY IS NOT THE APPLICANT.
SO WHATEVER HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN THE NARRATIVE FROM THE APPLICANT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO REVIEW.
AND THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR THIS BOARD TO SAY IF WE NEED MORE INFORMATION THEN WE CAN DEFER IT TO THE APPLICANT OR WHOMEVER OR THE HOA, SOMEONE ISLANDER, YOU KNOW, COMES TO A MEETING.
I ACTUALLY DID SOME OF THIS, BUT SO THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT CANNOT BE ANSWERED FROM THE FOLKS HERE TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED SOMEONE ELSE THAT CAN RESPOND BETTER, I GUESS, TO THE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE LIABILITY OF THE CITY.
I MEAN, THE CITY HAS DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIABILITY.
AND SO AGAIN, UNLESS THE SITUATION WARRANTS IT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE CAN SUE THE CITY FOR A WHOLE NUMBER OF THINGS JUST FOR STUBBING THEIR TOES.
SO, I GUESS IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL WANTS TO BRING FORTH AGAINST THE CITY.
THE LTU REQUEST, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS FOR A SPECIFIC POLE.
HOWEVER, THIS BOARD INDIVIDUALLY LOOKS AT WHAT IS BEING WHAT THE SITUATION IS GOING TO BE USED FOR. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S ANOTHER L2 REQUEST I BELIEVE, ON YOUR AGENDA AND THAT'S WHERE SPECIFIC ITEM AS WELL.
SO YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT IS IT BEING.
IS IT BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING IS ENCROACHING IN SOME WAY OR FORM? IS IT FOR THE NEXT ITEM THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ON THE AGENDA THAT SERVES A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PURPOSE? THE BOARD HAS BEEN SELECTED TO USE ALL OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, KNOWLEDGE EXPERIENCE GAIN GARNERED, HOWEVER, TO DETERMINE WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THEIR PARTICULAR CASE.
SO IT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF BASICALLY A LICENSE TO USE THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE HERE.
WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO QUESTION THAT AND BRING THAT INTO FOCUS WITH THE APPLICANT.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO QUESTION IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SAY, BECAUSE IT IS A SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM THAT I'M NOT GOING TO EITHER HAVE THE LTU IN PLACE OR WHATEVER OR WHATEVER.
AND IF THE BOARD HAS THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS, THEN YOU PROBABLY NEED TO GET THAT FROM.
WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T GOING TO STEP ON TOES OF THE APPLICANT OR THE HOMEOWNER? WELL, YEAH. OKAY. PROBABLY, BUT WITHIN LEGITIMATE BOUNDS OF OUR POSITION HERE AND WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON STEP TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS IN THE FUTURE.
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WELL, LET'S DO THIS.WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE WHO I THINK WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS.
THE REASON I STARTED THIS CONVERSATION IS BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT A PRIVATE OWNER DOES WITH DATA VERSUS A PUBLIC ENTITY ARE VERY DIFFERENT. AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT WE HAVE A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL COLLECTING PUBLIC DATA, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME RULES THAT GOVERNMENT ENTITIES HAVE.
SO THAT, THAT THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT FIRST THINGS FIRST, WE NEED TO OPEN UP OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE NEED SINCE WE HAVE THIS HERE, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEFER.
ITEM. WHAT NUMBER ARE WE ON? 20 4-032.
AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE APPLICANT BE PRESENT.
SO THE NEXT MEETING DATE IS OCTOBER 8TH.
SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? LET'S GIVE THEM.
SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? LET'S DEFER THIS UNTIL OCTOBER.
OKAY. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A MOTION.
AND SO WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
NOW WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.
SO. I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THE ASSISTANT CHIEF MADE THE STATEMENT THAT THEY USED THE DATA TO YOU KNOW, FIND SILVER ALERTS AND OTHER THINGS.
WHEN I HAD GOTTEN THE IMPRESSION THAT THE DATA WAS NEVER USED THAT WAY.
SO HEARING HIM SAY THAT THEY USE THE DATA AS WELL MADE ME WONDER, OKAY, WELL, THIS SOUNDS NOT LIKE A PERSONAL USE DATA, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING ELSE. SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU.
WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER HOW THE DATA IS BEING USED.
YEAH. AND MY CONCERN IS IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, SINCE THE HOA IS NOT OR THE CONDO ASSOCIATION IS NOT HERE, TYPICALLY OUR LTUS ARE DONE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ADJACENT USES.
OUR CASES THAT WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST WHERE TYPICALLY THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF PRIVATE ENTITIES, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY IT HAS TO DO WITH SOMEBODY WHO OWNS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE, MY UNDERSTANDING IN THIS.
I MEAN OUR THE MOTION TO DEFER IS ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE ANY OTHER I MEAN IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY. I'M JUST TRYING TO SPIT IT OUT.
WELL, I JUST SO LOOKING AT IT AND WHAT THEY'VE PRESENTED TO US IS IT IS FACING THE ROAD.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE TWO THINGS THAT I SEE.
I JUST, I JUST WONDER WHY THEY CHOSE TO DO THAT AND HAVE THE VIEW AS SUCH.
IF THAT'S TRUE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO VIEW.
AND THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
CAN I ASK THE PD QUESTIONS? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF? WELL, YES, WE ARE, BUT AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING COLLECTED, WE'RE NOT USING IT MALICIOUSLY AT ALL.
IT ONLY HELPS TO AS A FORCE MULTIPLIER TO HELP US SOLVE CRIMES.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT YOU GUYS WOULD USE.
THEY PROVIDE THE DATA TO YOU ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WELL, THE DATA I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE DATA IS COLLECTED AND THE WAY IT'S PROVIDED TO US, BUT WHENEVER THERE'S AN ALERT, SAY THAT THERE WAS A VEHICLE USED IN A HOMICIDE.
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SHOT AND KILLED AN OFFICER.SO THAT DATA WAS USED TO FIND THAT THAT SUSPECT.
SO A GOOD QUESTION THAT THAT WE SHOULD ASK IS, IS HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM? WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION.
THE INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO, I THINK, THE AUTO CRIME TASK FORCE.
AND THEY DISSEMINATE THE INFORMATION, AND I GET THIS.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL IN YOUR TOOLBOX TO FIGHT CRIME.
SO AT LEAST THAT'S MY WHAT I THAT'S AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING YOU SAY.
YOU GUYS LIKE IT BECAUSE OF THAT, HOW IT'S APPROVED AND HOW WE SEE THESE MOVING FORWARD.
THAT'S KIND OF IN OUR CAMP AT LEAST ON THIS ONE.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. SO THE MOTION IS TO DEFER.
ALL RIGHT. NOW I'M ON THE LAST PAGE.
[6.D.3. 24P-036 (Adjacent To 2222 Post Office / Avenue E) Request For A License To Use In Order To Install A Turtle Statue In The City Of Galveston Sidewalk Right-Of-Way. Adjacent Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey Lots 13 And 14, Block 502, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Amy Owens, Turtles About Town Adjacent Property Owner: Neilson Construction Easement Holder: City Of Galveston]
ALRIGHTY. SO 24P-036.THIS IS A ANOTHER LICENSE TO USE FOR ONE OF THE TURTLES ABOUT TOWN SCULPTURES.
THERE WERE 101 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT.
FIVE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A LICENSE TO USE FOR ONE OF THE TURTLES ABOUT TOWN STATUES.
WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THOSE.
I BELIEVE SPONSORED BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION WITH THE ADJACENT BUSINESS.
THAT WOULD BE THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH.
TURTLE STATUE IS 40IN HIGH AND 62IN WIDE, WITH FROM FLIPPER TO FLIPPER.
PLANTERS APPROXIMATELY NINE FOOT ACROSS.
THE TURTLE STATUE WILL BE ANCHORED ON A CONCRETE SLAB WITHIN THE PLANTER, WITH A HALF INCH BOLTS.
AND THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEERING LETTER SHOWING HOW THAT'S DONE IS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THE ADJACENT RIGHT OF WAY IS JUST SOUTH OF SPONSOR'S BUSINESS, AS STATED AT THIS POINT, POST OFFICE.
THE STREET ITSELF IS AN UNUSUALLY NARROW WITH PARALLEL PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET AND NONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND IN THIS CASE ADJACENT TO THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS. IT INCLUDES A VERY WIDE SIDEWALK.
THERE'S NO PAID PARKING AFFECTED BY THE SALE TO YOU.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ON THE SIDEWALK ITSELF.
ONCE AGAIN, AN EXISTING PLANTER AS SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN.
WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE. ONCE AGAIN, HERE IS THE APPLICANT'S SITE PLAN SHOWING WHERE THE TURTLE WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING PLANTER THAT IS ALREADY ON THE STREET AND HAS BEEN THERE FOR SOME NUMBER OF YEARS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ONCE AGAIN A PHOTO LOOKING BASICALLY EAST ALONG POST OFFICE.
ONCE AGAIN SHOWING THE THE PLANTER THAT THEY HAVE SELECTED FOR THE TURTLE PLACEMENT.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND MISSING THE PHOTO TO THE EAST WE HAVE A PHOTO TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU DANIEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
SEEING NONE WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HELLO. DID YOU SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME? I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE WORKING WITH PRISCILLA FILES WITH SHE'S WITH THE TREE CONSERVATORY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE BASE IS PUT IN, THAT WE'RE WORKING IN LINE WITH HER. NOT SO NOT TO DAMAGE THE TREE.
SHE'LL BE THERE TALKING WITH THE PERSON, AND THEY'RE COMING UP WITH A PLAN FOR THE SLAB OF THE FOR THE TURTLE SO THAT IT WON'T AFFECT THE TREE. SO.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A TURTLE IN THE SHAPE.
IT IS. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, BECAUSE ONCE PACO GETS HIS TURTLE BACK OUT AND PUTS A FENCE AROUND IT AND THEN ONCE MIKE AND CAT BOUVIER PUT THEIR TURTLE, WE'LL HAVE SIX TURTLES, ALL WITHIN A THREE BLOCK SPAN.
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SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WALKABILITY FOR THE ART DISTRICT.IT ALSO MEANS A LOT TO BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR TURTLE HAS BEEN IT'S BEEN WORKED ON FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, I WANT TO SAY, BY AN AMAZING ARTIST IN THE ART DISTRICT. HER NAME IS LYNN.
WHO'S BEEN BATTLING CANCER FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS.
AS A PROJECT TO DO, TO KIND OF TAKE HER MIND OFF OF GOING THROUGH CANCER.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, NOW LYNN HAS STOPPED TREATMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.
I'M JUST SO YOU'RE THE WITH THE TURTLES.
I AM MYSELF AND JOANIE STEINHOUSE.
SHE OBVIOUSLY IS THE PERSON THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THE RESPONSIBLE THINGS.
AND I'M THE ONE THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THE ARTSY THINGS.
I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND SO AND SO IS THE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE I DON'T THINK SO.
I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER LIVES IN HOUSTON.
I KNOW THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN FOR SALE FOR A WHILE, BUT I BELIEVE IT JUST WENT THROUGH A SALE.
I WAS IN HAVING BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PERSON THAT RUNS THE ANTIQUE DEALER WHO HAPPENS TO HAVE VERY CLOSE TIES TO BOTH THE OLD OWNER AND THE NEW OWNER.
AND SO HE'S THE ONE THAT WAS A REPRESENTATIVE AS FAR AS THE BUILDING FOR.
AWESOME. SO AND KUDOS TO THEM TOO.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.
I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE 24P-036.
SECOND. SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR 24P-036 FOR THE APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.
THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
SO, 24P- I'M SORRY, 036 IS APPROVED.
ALL RIGHT, ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN A.
[7.A. Adopt 2024 Planning Commission Award Recipients (Staff)]
OKAY. THIS IS THE ADOPTION OF THE 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION AWARD RECIPIENTS.WE JUST HELD A WORKSHOP PRIOR TO THIS AND WHIZZED RIGHT THROUGH IT.
YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB TODAY.
VERY EFFICIENT. KARINA IS GOING TO PULL UP THE POWERPOINT AND WE'LL JUST GO OVER THEM ONE LAST TIME.
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING CORRECT, AND THEN YOU'LL MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE ON IT.
SO THIS IS A PROJECT OF THE COMMISSION WE STARTED AT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
IT IS TO HONOR PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SERVE AS GOOD EXAMPLES.
SO THIS YEAR WE WILL DO BEAUTIFICATION AS 111 SEALY, WHICH IS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECT AS WELL, AND INCLUDES THE RESTORATION OF THIS CUPOLA, WHICH IS A PRETTY UNUSUAL FEATURE.
DEVELOPMENT, THE OLEANDERS AT BROADWAY.
REALLY SIGNIFICANT NEW CONSTRUCTION ALONG THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE MANSARD HOTEL.
THIS IS A PROJECT OF SAVING 1900 ASHLEY AND MICHAEL CORDRAY.
IT'S A BUILDING THAT WAS VACANT FOR DECADES, AND THEY'VE RENOVATED IT INTO A SMALL BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
PARTICIPATION. THE HEALING HOUSE.
CITY HALL PLAZA. THAT'S OUR NEIGHBORS RIGHT BEHIND US.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS DONE BY THE CITY TO REPLACE THE CITY HALL ANNEX THAT WAS TORN DOWN WHEN WE BUILT THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY WHERE OUR OFFICES ARE, AND IT INCLUDES A PUBLIC ART COMPONENT BY DOUG MCLANE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
PRIVATE INVESTMENTS. 31 CEDAR LAWN.
AND IT IS WE DON'T HAVE A BEFORE PICTURE, BUT IT'S A VERY DRAMATIC RESTORATION.
IT WAS REALLY REDONE IN THE 60S AND NOT A PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE RENOVATION.
SO THIS PUT IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL APPEARANCE.
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SPACE SINCE THE 1990S.THIS WAS A SAVINGS LOAN, A BANK BUILDING, AND WAS RECENTLY RENOVATED INTO KIND OF A WORK FLEX SPACE, COMMUNITY SPACE, AND HAS A VERY NICE CRAFT COCKTAIL BAR.
SPECIAL RECOGNITION. THIS YEAR WE'RE DOING RESOLVE THE STATUE.
IT WAS FUNDED BY THE GALVESTON CULTURAL ARTS PROGRAM.
IT'S LOCATED AT 20TH AND STRAND.
IT'S ACTUALLY ALSO BY DOUG MCLEAN.
AND THIS HAS INSPIRED US TO START A NEW CATEGORY NEXT YEAR OF CULTURAL ARTS.
AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO OUR CITY COUNCIL STUFF? IT WILL BE OCTOBER 24TH.
24TH. TYPICALLY DONE AT CITY COUNCIL DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, WHICH IS NATIONAL PLANNING MONTH.
IT'S PRESENTED BY THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR.
ANY QUESTIONS? MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
WE NEED A MOTION IN A MOTION TO ACCEPT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THESE WINNERS AS OUR 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION AWARDS.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT THE SCHEDULE OF AWARD WINNERS.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.
THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THOSE WINNERS.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, RECOGNITION OF STEVEN PENA.
[8. Recognition Of Steven Peña]
COMMISSIONER PENA WHO IS GOING TO BE LEAVING US.SO WE JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOUR EFFORTS HERE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S BEEN A YOU'VE BEEN HERE AS LONG AS I HAVE.
YOU GOT HERE JUST LIKE NOT MUCH LONGER AFTER I DID.
SO MY HAT IS OFF TO YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE.
YOU MAKE REALLY GOOD DECISIONS.
THANK YOU. YOU STARTED DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN WE WERE ALL IN ZOOM AND IT WAS A REALLY WEIRD TIME.
SO IT'S YOU, YOU PERSEVERED AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
AND WE'LL WELCOME YOU BACK ANY TIME.
BUT I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK YOU ALL THE STAFF OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU ALL REALLY DO A LOT OF HARD WORK BEHIND THE SCENES, EVEN MORE SO THAN WHAT WE, AS THE COMMISSION SEE IN WORKING WITH THESE APPLICANTS.
AND WE CONSISTENTLY HEAR GOOD FEEDBACK FROM, FROM OUR APPLICANTS OF HOW HELPFUL AND ACCOMMODATING OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO WORK THROUGH SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
THE DEPARTMENT IS SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU ALL DO EVERY DAY.
ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, WELL, I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.
BECAUSE WE DID START AT THE SAME TIME, DIDN'T WE? YEAH, WE ALL THREE DID.
IS IT TIME FOR US ALL TO GET OFF THE BOARD? HE'S THE SMART ONE.
I KNOW YOU'RE LEAVING US, BUT I'LL SEE YOU IN OTHER PLACES.
OH, YEAH? YEAH, WE DO OTHER STUFF TOGETHER.
APPRECIATE. APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO.
NOT JUST HERE, BUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER BUSINESS? NO OTHER BUSINESS. SEEING NONE.
WOO HOO! HOLY COW! NOT BAD, NOT BAD.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.