[1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER] [00:00:04] >> IT IS MY PLEASURE TO CALL THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO ORDER FOR MAY 23RD OF 2024. I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL WELCOME OUR COUNSEL THAT IS HERE RIGHT NOW AND THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, GLAD TO HAVE YOU. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG ROAD COMING TOWARDS YOUR SERVING ON COUNCIL AND I HOPE YOU'LL FIND THAT IT'S TIME WELL SPENT. I THINK YOU'LL ENJOY IT QUITE A BIT. I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF THAT IS HERE. THANK YOU STAFF. I WANT TO THANK THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. ALSO, I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS PROGRAM. GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT LET'S HAVE A ROLE CALL, PLEASE. >> MAYOR BROWN? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FINKLEA? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PORRETTO? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ROB? >> HERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS AND COUNCILMEMBER RAWLINS HAVE NOT ARRIVED YET. >> WELL, SHE'S HERE. >> SHE'S HERE? OKAY. >> SHE'S ON HER WAY IN. >> OKAY. SO CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE. THEY WILL BE HERE SHORTLY, BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM HERE, SO GOOD TO HEAR THAT. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING CHORES IF I COULD. I WANT TO WELCOME THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I THINK YOU'LL ENJOY YOUR TERM HERE. YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD TIME. SECOND OF ALL, SHARON IS NOT WITH US AND AS I MENTIONED COUNCILMAN RAWLINS IS NOT WITH US. THEY'LL BE HERE SHORTLY. ALSO, FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, DID YOU GET YOUR LAPEL PIN? I THINK BOB YOU'VE GOT YOURS, ALEX YOU'VE GOT YOURS ON. >> I WANT ONE. >> YES MA'AM. >> THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED A LAPEL PIN? VERY GOOD. LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM 3A. [3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (1 Hour)] PLEASE, JANELLE. >> 3A, CLARIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. >> WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START THIS. BEFORE WE START, COUNCIL AS YOU KNOW YOU HAD RECEIVED AN UPDATED ITEM 10A. I THINK IT CAME IN WEDNESDAY; CAME IN YESTERDAY TO YOU. SO THERE IS AN UPDATED ITEM 10A THAT'S BEEN SUBSTITUTED FOR THE 10A ITEM THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA WHEN IT WAS POSTED. WE ALSO HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL AGENDA. THAT AGENDA ITEM IS ITEM 12B FOR THE ELECTION OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM THIS AFTERNOON AND THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO OUR AGENDA. SAYING THAT, LET'S START. COUNCILMAN FINKLEA, DID YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS SIR YOU WANT TO BRING UP? >> MAYOR, I DO NOT. I MET WITH STAFF PREVIOUSLY AND GOT ALL MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED. >> THANK YOU, DAVID. COUNCILMAN BROWN. A THOUGHT? >> I HAD ONE ON 10B. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GET THE STAFF ON THIS; 10B ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, THE CODE OF GALVESTON AS AMENDED FOR CHAPTER 9 BICYCLES. IT SEEMS TO BE A HARD THING TO DEFINE WHAT YOU CAN PUT A MOTOR ON AND DRIVE DOWN THE STREET THESE DAYS. >> WELL, EVERYTHING WE PUT IN ORDINANCE, THE NEXT WEEK THERE'S A NEW ITEM THAT HAS A MOTOR ON IT THAT'S GOING DOWN THE SEAWALLS. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO. >> NOW I GOT TO SEE WHAT YOU DID. >> I USED THE INSTRUMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY WITHIN THE ORDINANCE AND JUST APPLIED A BICYCLE RENTAL CONSTRAINT TO THOSE ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF RENTING HANDICAPPED WHEELCHAIRS. >> RIGHT. I WAS WONDERING IF IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO PUT IN THERE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, SO MAKE IT MAKE IT OPEN TO WHATEVER OTHER CONVEYANCE COMES ALONG WE CAN'T ANTICIPATE. >> THIS IS A CRIMINAL STATUTE SO WE HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC. SO NO, I DON'T THINK WE CAN PUT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO. >> OKAY. >> JUST KEEP IN MIND IF SOMETHING DOES ARISE, LET US KNOW AND WE CAN QUICKLY AMEND THE ORDER. >> OKAY. >> WE HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBER, ROB. >> SO IT SAYS SINGLE WHEEL? >> MM-HMM. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. >> THAT'S WHAT IT IS. >> I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING ELECTRIC BICYCLES TO THIS AS WELL. BUT WHY DO WE CALL IT SINGLE WHEEL? >> I ADDED THAT ON BECAUSE THAT WASN'T CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE. [00:05:06] THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE WHICH IS BASICALLY A SKATEBOARD WITH ONE WHEEL ON IT. >> A BIG WHEEL IN THE MIDDLE. >> THOSE GO PRETTY QUICK. >> YEAH. >> I THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD TO ADD THAT IN. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ADD IT IN, WE CAN PUT IT OUT. >> NO, I WAS JUST ASKING FOR MORE. >> I WOULD DEFINITELY ACCELERATE MY FACE INTO THE PAVEMENT. >> LET ME SAY AT 9:04 AM WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF HAVING COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS WITH US THIS MORNING; GOOD MORNING, SHARON AND AT 9:05 A.M COUNCILMAN ROBINS. GOOD MORNING TO YOU. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> OH, NO PROBLEM. I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU. BOB, ANY OTHERS? >> ONE MORE. ITEM 11L, CONTRACT WITH SLURRY SEAL. THERE WAS A PRETTY SPECIFIC SCOPE BUT I DIDN'T SEE A TIMELINE ON THAT. DID I MISS THAT? >> YOU HAVE 180 DAYS. >> OH, 180 DAYS. FOR ALL OF IT? >> YEAH, THIS IS A QUICK PROCESS. THEY'RE JUST COMING FOR THE SERVICE NOW [INAUDIBLE] >> OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> THAT'S GOOD. BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT TOPIC OF 10B, I'VE TALKED TO DON A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME POINT THE FUTURE ABOUT WHERE THESE VEHICLES NEED TO RUN. WE'VE GOT THEM RUNNING ON THE SIDEWALK, WE'VE GOT THEM RUNNING ON ALL DIFFERENT AREAS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ADDRESS THAT ESPECIALLY E-BIKES. WE'VE GOT E-BIKES ON THE SIDEWALKS GOING DOWN THE SEAWALL 20, 30 MILES AN HOUR. >> ON THE BEACH IT'S THE SAME. >> SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ADDRESS THAT. IS THAT SEPARATE DON? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SEPARATELY? >> YES, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY. WE ONLY HAVE TO GET BUTCH IN HERE TO EDUCATE YOU OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'D FACE AND IF YOU PUT A SPEED LIMIT ON SOMETHING. HE'S COMMENTED IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. HE'D HAVE TO HAVE AN OFFICER WITH A RADAR GUN ON THE SEAWALL. >> WITH A SLIGHTLY FASTER SKATEBOARD TO CATCH HIM. [LAUGHTER] >> SINGLE WHEEL. >> SINGLE WHEEL SKATEBOARD. >> I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE PUT THAT ON NEXT MONTH'S WORKSHOP FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED AND WE COULD GET BUTCH HERE AND HAVE SOME GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. JANELLE, WOULD YOU PUT THAT ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING ABOUT DISCUSSION OF WHERE THESE VEHICLES AND THESE E-BIKES AND OTHER MOTORIZED VEHICLES WHERE THEY CAN OPERATE? >> OKAY. >> DON'T WE CURRENTLY TREAT BICYCLES LIKE MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON THE ROADWAYS? >> I THINK THERE'S A SEPARATE STATUTE TRANSPORTATION CODE FOR BIKES. AM I CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE STILL HAVE REGULATIONS ON BICYCLES. REMEMBER WE REQUIRED THE- >> THREE FOOT RULE. >> -THE THREE FOOT RULE L AND THE LIGHTING. SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHEN WE HIRED THAT POLICEMAN WITH THE THREE FOOT LONG ARMS. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S GET THAT ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. ANYTHING ELSE BOB THAT YOU HAD SIR? I'M GOING TO LET SHARON AND COUNCILMAN ROBINS GET SETTLED BEFORE I CALL ON THEM. MARIE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >> I DID. SO 11B. >> 11B. >> IT'S I GUESS FOR, THAT'S THE CLOSURE. IT'S NOT YOURS, IT'S THE BEACH SURVEYS. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID 11D. >> NO, B AS IN BOY. YOU KNOW KARL STOOD UP. I'M ALL GOOD WITH YOUR STUFF, MIKE. >> DAMN MAN. HE'S EXPANDED ONTO THE BEACH. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> GOOD MORNING PAL. >> WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE SEA PLANES. [LAUGHTER] BUT ANYWAY, SO WE'RE JUST SURVEYING THAT ONE AREA. >> NOW, IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF. >> COASTAL RESOURCES MANAGER. THIS CONTRACT WAS DEVELOPED RIGHT BEFORE I CAME ON. WHAT WE DID WAS; BRANDON HILL WHO WAS THE PREVIOUS COASTAL RESOURCES MANAGER, WANTED TO HAVE A LOOK AT THE LINE SPACING ON SOME OF OUR ENGINEERED BEACHES FROM 1,000 FEET TO 500 SEE IF WE COULD START COLLECTING BETTER DATA OF THE TOTAL DRIFT MOVEMENT OF THE SAND. AFTER THE SURVEYS LAST YEAR, [00:10:02] IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT REALLY DIDN'T MATTER SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO 1,000 FEET AREAS. THEN WE DID NOT HAVE BABIES' BEACH IN THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY SAND OUT THERE TO DO NOURISHMENT. EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T DO IT LAST YEAR, WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT BACK IN THERE. >> SO WE'RE PUTTING THESE IN AS AN ADDITION? >> WELL, NO. WE'RE JUST MAKING A REVISION TO THE CONTRACT. THERE'S NO CHANGE, THERE'S NO COST, IT'S JUST DOING THAT AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN THE FUTURE LOOKING AT THESE SURVEYS AS A DATA COLLECTION BECAUSE AS WE START DOING STUFF ON THE WEST END SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE GROINS AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET IDEAS OF HOW THE SAND MAY BE MOVING, THIS IS A MECHANISM THAT WE DO. SO MAYBE COMING BACK IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE SURVEYOR AND ENGINEERS AND MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THIS AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AS A DATA COLLECTION TOOL FOR US TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE SAND ALONG THE BEACHES. THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, WE TYPICALLY HAVE PAID FOR THE CERTIFIED DC MONEY. WHY AREN'T WE PAYING FOR THIS SET? >> I SUPPOSE WE COULD. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A HOT BUDGET. WE HAVE OUR TRICKLE DOWN MONEY THAT'S BUDGETED FOR SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE TROLLEY OPERATION AND POLICE OFFICERS. THE REST OF THE HOT MONEY, OF COURSE, WE DELEGATE FOR USE BY THE PARK BOARD. THAT WOULD BE A COUNCIL DECISION IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO DO. >> I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A LEGITIMATE COST THAT COULD BE COVERED BY US. >> WE BELIEVE IT'S ELIGIBLE, YES. >> IT'S BEACHES THAT SERVE TOURISTS AS WELL AS OUR CITIZENS. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MARIE. WE COULD DISCUSS THAT AT OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION COMING UP HERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY THERE. >> WE HAVE A QUESTION, COUNCILMAN BROWN. >> I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THAT SAME TOPIC. DON'T WE ALREADY SURVEY BEACHES TO ESTABLISH GUN PROTECTION LINE AND LINE OF VEGETATION, AND OTHER THINGS FOR CONSTRUCTION PERMITS ON THE BEACH? >> YEAH. THIS IS AN ANNUAL SURVEY THAT WE DO, BUT WE ALSO REQUIRE ANYBODY THAT COMES TO US FOR A BEACH FRONT CONSTRUCTION CERTIFICATE TO ALSO DO THEIR OWN SURVEY, BECAUSE THEY'RE FARTHER LANDWARD THAN WHAT OUR SURVEYS GO. FOR US TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, WE HAVE THEM TO ESTABLISH THE DISTANCES FROM THE MEAN HIGH TIDE AND THE DUNES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THIS IS AN ANNUAL SURVEY THAT WE DO ESPECIALLY FOR ENGINEER BEACHES SO IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE OR A STORM, WE CAN GET ASSISTANCE FROM FIMA TO ESTABLISH THE DUNE LINES AND PROTECTION LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> DID WE MAKE THAT INFORMATION PUBLIC? >> IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE. IT'S UNDER IT'S UNDER COASTAL RESOURCES. >> I WISH THE STATE WOULD MAKE THEIRS. LIKE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, EVERY SURVEY THEY DO, EVERY AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY IS ALL PUBLIC. I WISH WE HAD MORE PUBLIC. SINCE WE'RE PAYING FOR IT, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. YES, IT'S ALL THERE, MA'AM. >> THEN GOING TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ALSO YOURS, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH ITEM C, WHICH IS THE ENHANCEMENT OF PARKING PARK THREE. BRIAN, I THOUGHT PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH TEXTA, WHEN WE LET THEM USE THAT AS THEIR LAYDOWN AREA OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THAT. I THOUGHT PART OF THE AGREEMENT WAS FOR FREE, THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE PARKING LOT AND ENHANCE THE ROAD. >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE AGREEMENT WAS WITH THE COUNTY, NOT WITH US. TEXTA MADE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY. WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD SPREAD ANY REMAINING MATERIAL ON THE PARKING LOT. >> THEY HAVE DONE THAT. >> YES, BUT IT WAS NOT WHAT WE THOUGHT. >> THERE IS A LARGE AREA OUT THERE THAT HAS A BASE WORKING. MET WITH PUBLIC WORKS OUT THERE A FEW WEEKS AGO, SO THEY CAN DO SOME SHAPING ON THAT AND I HAD TO BRING MUCH MATERIAL IN TO GET THAT DONE. >> THE GLO HAS BEEN GOOD ABOUT WORKING WITH AS THEY UNDERSTOOD ALL THAT AND IN THE TIME LINE, AND THE DELAYS WITH TEXTA GETTING OFF. THAT'S WHY THEY'VE EXTENDED FOR US TO GET THAT. >> BUT ALL THE ISSUES THAT WERE CAUSED BY THAT PROJECT OF RAISING 355, THEY SHOULD BUILD THE NEW BUILDING, EVEN PRAY FOR DRAINAGE, WE ARE STILL GOING THROUGH. WE HAD DRAINAGE ISSUES. THE OTHER THING IS ALONG THE SAME LINES. THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE HOT. >> YES, MA'AM. I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY ELIGIBLE. I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THIS TARGETS TOURISM, AND WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS FROM A BUDGETING. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE BUDGET. [00:15:01] AS WE GO THROUGH THAT BUDGET, BRIAN, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A SECTION TO DISCUSS HOT, IF WE COULD. >> ABSOLUTELY. SHEILA IS IN HERE AND I'M SURE SHE'S HAPPY TO THAT. GOT IT. >> I GOT IT. >> YOU GOT IT. >> KYLE, THANK YOU. >> KYLE, BEFORE WE LEAVE, THE COUNTY BEACH PARKING PART 3, THAT'S OWNED BY THE COUNTY, IS IT? >> OWNED BY THE COUNTY, AND WE HAVE OPERATING AGREEMENT FOR THAT RIGHT. >> ALL THE PARKING PARKS ARE OWNED [OVERLAPPING] BY THE COUNTY AND CITY MANAGES THEM. >> CORRECT. >> LIKE JAMELE PARK IS TOO. >> WE'VE DONE IT QUITE PROFITABLY TOO, I AND MY ADD. >> YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE. >> THAT'S ALL FOR YOU. THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE ON 11G. >> ELEVEN WHAT? >> G, AS IN GEORGE. WOULD BE HOPE. >> G? [OVERLAPPING] >> IT WAS ABOUT TEMPORARY STAFFING FOR HUMAN RESOURCES. >> THAT DEALS WITH THE ERP PROJECT, OUR BIG CONVERSION PROCESS OF PERSONNEL AND FINANCIAL RECORDS. WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE OUR CURRENT STAFF AS EXPERTS IN THAT, SO WE NEED TO BACKFILL FOR THOSE AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR. >> HOW LONG DO YOU EXPECT THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT NEED? I MEAN, IS IT SOME YEARS. >> IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE WHOLE PROCESS FOR EACH SEGMENT. THE FIRST IS GOING TO BE PERSONNEL. THE PROCESS IS ABOUT A YEAR AND WE'RE PROBABLY TWO MONTHS IN. YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY NINE, 10 MONTHS. >> WELL, I KNOW AN ERP CONVERSION IS EXTENSIVE AND EXPENSIVE AND SO FORTH. >> IT IS. >> I JUST WONDER IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT MAYBE ADDING SOME FTES. >> PROBABLY NOT. ONCE THE CONVERSION IS DONE, YOU NO LONGER NEED THOSE POSITION. THAT'S SAW THE BEAUTY OF USING THE TEMPORARY HIRING SERVICE SO WE CAN BRING IN, USE THEM ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO REQUIRE THEM. >> DUE TO THE EXTRA COSTS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, WE'RE USING OUR EMPLOYEES FOR THE EXPERTISE AND WE'RE USING THESE TO BACKFILL THESE, SO IT'S A LITTLE CHEAPER THAT WAY. >> WHAT I SEE FROM OTHER COMPANIES THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH ERP CONVERSIONS, THEY NEVER END. >> NO. THAT'S CORRECT. >> THE COUNTY IS UNDERGOING ONE RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK YOU SEE THAT THEY GROW. >> IT'S LIKE OWNING AN OLD HOUSE. YOU START AND IT JUST NEVER STOPPED. >> IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE CITY NOW DID IT. THIS IS A GOOD METHODOLOGY FOR US TO USE. >> IT'S NEEDED, BUT IT'S PAINFUL. >> YES, MA'AM. YOU'RE RIGHT. >> FOR THE SAKE, THE CAMERA, COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF, PLEASE, SIR. >> KEN BUCKLEY, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. >> YOU MAY HAVE SEEN HIS PICTURE IN THE POST OFFICE. [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE HAVE BEVERLY WEST IS STANDING HERE. BEVERLY IS OUR HR DIRECTOR. >> BEVERLY, HR DIRECTOR. NICE TO MEET YOU. >> GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? >> NO. THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU GUYS. >> THANK YOU GUYS. >> I'M THE REST OF HOPES THINGS TOO. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR HER? >> NO. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAND UP? >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, HOPE SON IS PLAYING IN HIS VERY LAST BASEBALL GAME FOR THE SEASON. SHE ASKED IF SHE COULD BE THERE TODAY, AND I THINK FAMILY IS IMPORTANT. DAN GETS TO BE HOPE. >> FANTASTIC. >> THAT WAS ALL FOR COUNCILWOMAN, ROB. COUNCILMAN, PORRETTO. >> DAN, I HAD TO CALL YOU BACK UP HERE. >> NOW TO ROB. >> MY ITEM IS 11H. JUST FOR CLARITY, BRIAN, WE DO RECEIVE FEDERAL GRANTS, CORRECT? JUST ANY FEDERAL GRANT. >> CDBG MONEY. WE USE THAT AS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT MONEY. WE USE THAT FOR MANY OF THE SUMMER PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER PARKS. >> I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO HOPE ABOUT IT, BUT MY ONE QUESTION AND THIS WOULD BE TO THE CONTRACTOR, IF I COULD GET IT BEFORE THE MEETING, I WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THEIR EQUIPMENT IS NDAA COMPLIANCE? >> YES. >> PERFECT. >> THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAKING THIS CHANGE. >> PERFECT. >> YES, BECAUSE THESE CAMERAS THAT YOU SEE AROUND NOW ARE NOT. >> PERFECT. >> THAT'S IT. >> DESPERATE NEED OF [INAUDIBLE] >> YES. [LAUGHTER] >> BARBARA ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS BEFORE AND THEY'RE DOING REALLY GOOD THINGS OVER THERE. MCGUIRE. >> IT IS LOOKING GOOD. >> CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT? SINCE THAT PART SAY THAT THEY'VE TALKED TO STAFF BEFORE AND WHATNOT, I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT TO OUR CITIZENS TO TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THESE THINGS AT THIS MEETING SO THEY HEAR WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE. I'M JUST MAKING THAT COMMENT. >> FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, I GUESS, MY CONCERN WITH THE MCGUIRE DEBT WAS THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE TRADING IN. I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY TO GET IT OVER TO THE FIRE OR OUT FOR BID FOR THE PUBLIC OR BUSINESSES. BARBARA WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND SOME OF IT'S OUT OF A SERVICE CONTRACT, SO IT'S NOT SERVICEABLE. THE COST ULTIMATELY WOULD PROBABLY FALL ON THE FIRE TO MAINTAIN IT. THEN I GUESS RISK MANAGEMENT WOULD SAY IT'S A LIABILITY IF IT'S [00:20:01] IN A CITY IN KIND CONTRIBUTION. >> I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE HAVE A 10 YEAR ASSET, WE USUALLY GET 15 YEARS OUT OF IT AND I HATE TO KILL DAVID'S GAB DEALS AUCTIONS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE BUYING FROM THE CITY OF GALVESTON, YOU'RE GETTING A VERY USED PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. HIGHLY LOVED IS WHAT WE LIKE TO SAY. >> ACTUALLY WE GET MORE [OVERLAPPING] >> BARBARA COME FORWARD JUST A BIT. >> WE GET MORE AS A TRADE IN VALUE. WE GET $4,700 GUARANTEED OFF THE NEW EQUIPMENT. THEREFORE, IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR US TO JUST TRADE IT IN. BECAUSE AS I EXPLAINED IT, COUNCIL MEMBER PORRETTO, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU MOVE EQUIPMENT, THINGS COME OFF OF IT. WE DON'T WANT ANY CITY EMPLOYEE TO GET [OVERLAPPING] >> THERE ALSO ARE THE ONES THAT COME AND REMOVE IT AND OUR EMPLOYEES AREN'T GOING TO GET HURT. [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE PERHAPS MAYBE THEY DON'T USE THE EQUIPMENT. [LAUGHTER] >> THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS MORE THAN WELCOME IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT. WE'RE OPEN AT 6:00, USUALLY 5:30 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TILL 8:00 IN THE EVENING AND THEY DO GET A FREE MEMBERSHIP, AND SATURDAYS 9:00-5:00. >> IF THEY NEED ANY EQUIPMENT IN THE STATIONS, THEY JUST NEED TO TALK TO THE CHIEF. WE [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT GETTING THEM ANYTHING. >> IN MY SUGGESTION, COUNCILMAN PORRETTO WAS, AS WE LOOK AT RENOVATING THESE FIRE STATIONS AND EVEN IF WE HAVE TO ADD SOME AT THE POLICE STATION, MAYBE THAT'S WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THE BUDGET OR THEY WRITE A GRANT TO RECEIVE SOME EQUIPMENT WITH A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THAT WAS BARBARA SANDERSON, OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, THAT WAS JUST SPEAKING. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN PORRETTO? >> NO, I'M SORRY FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE, I COULDN'T GET SOME EQUIPMENT FOR YOU, BUT YOU CAN ASK FOR IT IN THE BUDGET, I GUESS. >> IT ALWAYS DOESN'T HURT TO ASK. THERE YOU GO. GOOD MORNING, SHARON, ANYTHING YOU HAVE FOR COUNCIL. >> NO, I'M GOOD. >> COUNCILMAN ROBINS? ANYTHING, SIR? >> I HAD A COUPLE OF ALREADY ANSWERED. THANK YOU. >> GOOD. I HAD ONE ITEM, ITEM 11A, BRIAN, COULD YOU FOR THE SAKE OF COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN WHERE WE ARE ON THAT. >> ACTUALLY, DON WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BETTER PERSON BECAUSE HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH [INAUDIBLE] GROUP ON THIS. >> JUST A RESOLUTION TO SUSPEND THE INCREASE PROPOSED BY, I BELIEVE, IT'S CENTERPOINT. CITIES HAD PRIMARY JURISDICTION OVER UTILITY INCREASES. BUT NOW THAT PRIMARY JURISDICTION HAS BASICALLY BEEN TAKEN AWAY THROUGH THE CREATION OF THE PUC AND THE RAILROAD COMMISSION. OUR PRIMARY JURISDICTION IS LIMITED TO SUSPENDING IT FOR I BELIEVE IT'S 60 DAYS. WHILE [INAUDIBLE] REPRESENTING ALL THE VARIOUS CITIES PARTICIPATING CHALLENGED THE RATE INCREASE. IT IS A PROCESS THAT LASTS FOUR MONTHS. >> ONCE THAT PROCESS FINISHES, WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT? >> WE GET AN ADVISORY FROM [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT THE RESULT [INAUDIBLE] FEES ARE PAID BY THE UTILITY. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. TREVOR, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ON THAT. >> HE KNEW THE HISTORY BETTER THAN I DID SO. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> I THANK GOD TREVOR SAID IT. [LAUGHTER] >> VERY GOOD, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CLARIFICATION ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3B, PLEASE. [3.B. Introduction Of Administrative Staff (B. Maxwell/Brown - 15 Min)] >> ITEM 3B, INTRODUCTION OF ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. >> COUNCIL, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE TWO STAFF HERE IN THE CITY; ONE STAFF THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW AND AUTHORITY OF OUR CITY MANAGER, AND WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBERS THAT ANSWER TO CITY COUNCIL AND FALL UNDER CITY COUNCILS PURVIEW AND MANAGEMENT. I'D LIKE FOR BRIAN TO INTRODUCE DIRECTORS. PUT A FACE WITH THE NAME. >> THE MOST EFFICIENT IS TO GO THROUGH ONE BY ONE. WE'LL START HERE WITH? [BACKGROUND] YOU KNOW HIM? [LAUGHTER] >> GOOD MORNING. WELCOME ALL THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M DOUG BALLI, CHIEF OF POLICE. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M TRINO PEDRAZA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M ROBERT WINNICKI, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENGINEERING. >> BRANDON COOK, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. >> LET ME STOP RIGHT THERE. THAT'S YOUR PUBLIC WORKS CREW RIGHT THERE. TRINO BASICALLY HANDLES THE DAY TO DAY ROUTINE WORK IN PUBLIC WORKS, DRAINAGE, ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. ROB HANDLES ALL THE ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION. [00:25:01] BRANDON IS OVER THERE AND HE HANDLES ALL THE FINANCES AND EVERYTHING OVER IN THERE, PLUS HE'S ON TOP OF IDC STUFF. ASSISTANT CHIEF MITCHELL? >> GOOD MORNING. ASSISTANT CHIEF OF ANDRE MITCHELL. >> WHO'S NEXT? >> GOOD MORNING, CSILLA LUDANYI, I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. >> GOOD MORNING, TESA WROBLESKI, DIRECTOR OF RECOVERY AND GRANTS. >> GOOD MORNING, MIKE SHAHAN, I'M THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR OF THE SCHOLES AIRPORT. >> GOOD MORNING. I THINK WE ALREADY MET I'M DAN BUCKLEY, THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. I WILL MENTION TO EACH OF YOU THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET IS OUR ORG CHART, AND IT TAKES IT DOWN AND IDENTIFIES THE POSITIONS AND THE PEOPLE AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL IN THE CITY SO YOU CAN USE THAT. THEN WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO YOU TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OTHER STAFF THAT HAVE THE FACTS AND THE DATA THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT OPERATIONS, SO WELCOME. >> AS WE'RE GETTING FURTHER BACK, COULD YOU COME FORWARD, CATHERINE, SO WE CAN SEE YOU A LITTLE BETTER. >> EVERYBODY JUST MIGHT AS WELL [OVERLAPPING] >> CAN I TURN THAT MIC UP A LITTLE? >> YEAH. [BACKGROUND] >> HI. CATHERINE GORMAN, I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND ALSO THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER. >> HI. MY NAME IS MEHRAN JADIDI. I WORK WITH DON GLYWASKY, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, OUR MAIN PROSECUTOR. I HANDLE ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS AND ANYTHING ELSE DON ASKS OF ME. >> WE GOT A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER HERE. I'M DON GLYWASKY, YOUR PRESENT CITY ATTORNEY. [LAUGHTER] MY STAFF IS MEHRAN JADIDI, DONNA FAIRWEATHER, TREVOR FANNING, XOCHITL VANDIVER-GASKIN SHE'S A LONG NAME, IT'S HARDER THAN MINE. COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES. DONNA DEALS A LOT OF THE LAND USE STUFF WITH PLANNING AND LDRS AND ALL THAT STUFF. SAY HELLO. >> YOU DON'T SIT AT ALL. [LAUGHTER] I'M DONNA FAIRWEATHER. I'M THE SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. I'VE BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER 14 YEARS. WELCOME, CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN. I THINK I'VE SAID THIS, WHAT, 6, 7 TIMES NOW. WELCOME, AND I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR TIME HERE. >> TREVOR FANNING IS TAKING OVER THE IDC. HE'S TRADED OFF GIVING POLICE OVER TO XOCHITL, BUT JUST SAY HELLO. >> I'M TREVOR FANNING. I WAS HERE FOR SEVEN YEARS. I WENT TO BAYTOWN FOR A FEW YEARS AND I CAME BACK. IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK. VERY GOOD TO MEET YOU ALL. >> XOCHITL HAS BEEN DOING SOME OF OUR LITIGATION. SHE GOT A JUDGMENT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO FOR 90 GRAND ON A HOT CASE. SHE'LL BE TAKING OVER CIVIL SERVICE FOR THE CITY. SAY HELLO TO CITY COUNCIL. >> HI, GOOD MORNING. NICE TO MEET YOU ALL. MY NAME IS XOCHITL VANDIVER-GASKIN. IT IS A LONG NAME, AND I'M THE NEWEST ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AND REALLY LOVING IT AND WELCOME ABOARD. THANK YOU. >> DA'S OFFICE. >> YES, THE GALVESTON COUNTY DA'S OFFICE FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS. >> XOCHITL, YOU HAD WORKED FOR THE STATE BEFORE TOO, HAVEN'T YOU? DID YOU WORK FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS? >> NO. [OVERLAPPING] I REPRESENTED THE STATE OF TEXAS AS AN ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY. YES. WELCOME ABOARD. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MICHELE HAY. SORRY. >> COME ON FORWARD, MICHELE. >> HI. MY NAME IS MICHELE HAY, AND I'M THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR HERE AT THE CITY OF GALVESTON AND ALSO SERVE AS DEVELOPMENT OMBUDSMAN. GOOD TO MEET YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MIKE CARUSO. I'M THE PURCHASING MANAGER FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. >> AND A PHILLY BOY. [LAUGHTER] >> GOOD MORNING. I'M BEVERLY WEST. WE MET EARLIER. I'M THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. I USED TO WORK FOR DON GLYWASKY IN THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS, AND I'VE ALSO WORKED FOR THE CITIES OF AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO AS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU AND THE COUNTY OF GALVESTON. THANK YOU. >> HELLO AGAIN, KYLE CLARK, COASTAL RESOURCES MANAGER. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BUTCH STROUD. I'M THE CITY MARSHAL. UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE FACETS OF ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT BEING THE MAIN ONE. GOLF CART REGISTRATION, GROUND TRANSPORTATION, RECORD INSPECTIONS, CITY HALL SECURITY, COURTROOM BAILIFF, PERMITS FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL PARKING, PERMITS FOR YOUR ALARM SYSTEMS, AND [BACKGROUND] PARKING ENFORCEMENT. [LAUGHTER] [00:30:05] >> HOW MANY MARSHALS DO YOU HAVE UNDER YOU, SIR? >> WE HAVE SEVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT MARSHALS AND WE HAVE TWO CIVILIAN CODE ENFORCEMENT INSPECTORS. >> THOSE SEVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICERS, YOU SAY? >> THEY ARE. YES, SIR. >> YES, SIR. >> BUTCH, COULD YOU CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC, YOUR DEPARTMENT IS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK NOW? >> YES, IT IS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM. >> THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD. >> THE AVERAGE IS GROWING. >> MAYBE GOING AFTER OUR JUNE MEETING, SO WE'LL SEE. >> GOOD MORNING. I MET YOU ALL EARLIER, BARBARA SANDERSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PARKS, RECREATION, AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO COUNCIL AND ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU. >> MY NAME IS DAVID SMITH. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF OUR MASS TRANSIT, FLEET, AND SPECIAL EVENTS. [LAUGHTER] >> GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME ABOARD. MY NAME IS CHARLES KENWORTHY. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES. >> WE SHOULD USE HIM FOR CITY VOICEOVER. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S A DEEP VOICE. GOOD MORNING. I'M CHARLES OLSON. I CURRENTLY SERVE AS FIRE CHIEF. I'VE BEEN HERE 33 YEARS AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU ALL. THANK YOU. >> SORRY. WE'LL DANCE LATER. I WAS TOLD TO DROP THOSE OFF TO YOU, DON. >> YOU'RE THE MAN. >> GOOD MORNING, TIM TIETJENS, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF MY FOLKS ALREADY. CATHERINE WITH THE PLANNING SECTION, KYLE WITH COASTAL, JOE TOLAND WITH OUR BUILDING AND INSPECTIONS DIVISION. >> KYLE, MICHELE. >> I MENTIONED KYLE. LET'S SEE. MICHELE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YES. WELCOME, NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRIAN, GREAT STAFF THAT YOU HAVE. I WANTED THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PUT A FACE WITH THEIR NAME BECAUSE YOU'LL BE INTERFACING WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS QUITE A BIT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BRIAN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, YOU MIGHT MENTION TO OUR NEW COUNCIL YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD. >> I DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFER THAN MOST CITY MANAGERS. I WELCOME YOU GUYS TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH STAFF. IF WE FOLLOWED THE CHARTER EXPLICITLY, YOU WOULD GO THROUGH ME, BUT I THINK IF YOU NEED INFORMATION, YOU NEED IT QUICKLY, AND IT'S BEST TO GET IT DIRECTLY FROM THE SOURCE BECAUSE NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, I'M GOING TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL TIM OR THE FIRE CHIEF OR THE POLICE CHIEF AND SAY, HEY, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? ALL I ASK IS THAT IF YOU COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF, IS THAT YOU LET ME KNOW. IF YOU EITHER COPY ME ON THE EMAILS OR IF YOU TEXT THEM THAT YOU PUT ME ON THE TEXT, OR IF YOU CALL THEM, YOU JUST DROP ME A NOTE AND SAY, HEY, I REACHED OUT TO THE POLICE CHIEF OR THE FIRE CHIEF OR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OR WHATEVER AND LET ME KNOW. THAT WAY, AND STAFF KNOWS THIS, I CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO YOU. I CAN'T MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING WHAT YOU NEED IF I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT. SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY PURPOSE THERE. >> BUT IT SERVES A SECONDARY PURPOSE AS WELL, GETTING THINGS DONE MORE EFFICIENTLY. >> ABSOLUTELY. I'M ALL ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE QUICKLY, AND MY STAFF KNOWS THAT WE HAVE A 24-HOUR RULE. ALL CALLS ARE RETURNED IN 24 HOURS. >> THESE STAFF MEMBERS THAT YOU MET THIS MORNING, THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT 8:00-5:00 OR 9:00-5:00 INDIVIDUALS. THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK MANY TIMES, AND YOU'LL SEE THEM CONSTANTLY LATE AT NIGHT OR WHATEVER, WORKING IN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE EMERGENCIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, VERY, VERY DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS. >> AND ROCK STARS. >> THEY WORK HARD. >> WE DO HAVE A ROCK STAR STAFF. >> COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE STAFF THAT ANSWERS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S BRIAN'S POSITION THAT ANSWERS TO CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE THE CITY SECRETARY JANELLE, ANSWERS TO CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE ALSO DON GLYWASKY, OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT'S ALREADY IDENTIFIED HIMSELF. HE ANSWERS TO COUNCIL, AND GLENN BULGHERINI. IS GLENN IN THE AUDIENCE BY ANY CHANCE? I DIDN'T SEE GLENN. HE IS OUR CITY AUDITOR AND HE ANSWERS TO CITY COUNCIL. GLENN'S POSITION IS AN INTERESTING POSITION. HE IS GOVERNED BY HIS AUDIT PLAN THAT COUNCIL CONFIRMS AND APPROVES EACH YEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. WHEN WE START HERE AS WE GO THROUGH OUR BUDGET SESSION, THESE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WE WILL BE VISITING WITH GLENN, SETTING HIS AUDIT PLAN FOR THE YEAR. THEN GLENN IS SET FREE TO PROSPER AND HE MOVES FORWARD WITH THAT AUDIT PLAN. [00:35:02] GLENN DOES NOT WAIVER FROM THAT AUDIT PLAN IN THE YEARS PASSED. WE HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS CALLING GLENN AND HAVE HIM DO AUDITS ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. IF HIS PLAN CHANGES, THAT HAS TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. CITY COUNCIL HAS TO THEN VOTE TO AMEND HIS AUDIT PLAN IF WE WANT HIM TO CHANGE HIS DIRECTION. GLENN WORKS VERY HARD. HE HAS TWO EMPLOYEES OVER THERE, I THINK ONE EMPLOYEE NOW, BUT GETTING READY TO FILL ANOTHER POSITION, AND WORKS VERY HARD AT OUR AUDITING AUDIT TAX, SALES TAX, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS FOR THE CITY. VERY GOOD. THAT IS THE EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. THANK YOU, BRIAN, FOR INTRODUCTION ON THOSE. >> THANK YOU, STAFF. THEY DO THE HEAVY LIFTING. >> VERY MUCH SO. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3C, PLEASE. [3.C. Discussion Of Stoss Landscape Architects Concepts For The Port Of Galveston (Brown/S. Lidstone - 15 Min)] >> ITEM 3C, DISCUSSION OF [OVERLAPPING] STOSS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS CONCEPTS FOR THE PORT OF GALVESTON. >> VERY GOOD. LET'S LET STAFF MOVE OUT, AND THEN I WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS SUBJECT A LITTLE MORE TO COUNCIL. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] >> MORNING. >> [OVERLAPPING] MORNING. >> MORNING. >> WELL, EXCUSE ME, ROGER, JUST ONE SECOND. WE'RE GOING TO START ABOUT THE STOSS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT CONCEPT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING INTO THE BOND DISCUSSION HERE IN JUST A SECOND. I'M GOING TO INVITE SHEILA LIDSTONE. SHEILA, ARE YOU HERE? >> YES, SIR. >> COULD YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE, MA'AM? HAVE A SEAT, IF YOU WOULD, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT, SIR. >> SURE. >> COME OVER HERE, CHRIS AND HAVE A SEAT. NICE TO SEE YOU. >> NICE TO SEE YOU TOO. HOW ARE YOU DOING? >> I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS TOPIC A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO MORE OF A CRUISE TERMINAL 16 TOPIC. BUT THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC HERE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ON HOW THIS CAME ABOUT. THIS WAS REALLY INITIATED, I THINK, BY AN INDIVIDUAL NAMED MARINA WARNEY. SHE LIVES IN HOUSTON. SHE REPRESENTS THE INTEREST OF THE MITCHELL GROUP HERE ON THE ISLAND. MARINA HAD VISITED WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND FELT THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO POSSIBLY DEVELOP A CONCEPT WHERE OUR PORT WOULD BE USER FRIENDLY TO THE PUBLIC ALSO AND HAVE MORE GREEN SPACE, HAVE MORE BOARDWALKS, HAVE MORE OPEN AREAS FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND AND VISIT THE PORT. WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS IS THAT MARINA WORKED WITH A GROUP STOSS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, AND I'LL HAVE SHEILA INTRODUCE CHRIS IN JUST A SECOND HERE. TO PUT TOGETHER A CONCEPT FOR THE PORT ABOUT CONSIDERING OPEN SPACE AND MORE PUBLIC FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE FOR THE PORT. THIS IS SOMETHING THIS PRESENTATION WAS PRESENTED TO THE PORT. THIS PRESENTATION HAS NOT BEEN FORMALLY ADOPTED BY THE PORT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT RESONATED REAL WELL WITH THE WHARVES BOARD AND RESONATED TO THE POINT THAT THE WHARVES BOARD FELT THROUGH THE MEMBERS AND THE TRUSTEES AND OUR CHAIRMAN, VICK PEARSON, WHO'S HERE TODAY WITH THE WHARVES BOARD FELT THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING INTERESTING FOR COUNSEL TO GET AN IDEA ABOUT A CONCEPT. THIS IS NOT A PLAN THAT IS ETCHED IN STONE, THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SPECIFIC CHANGES HERE AND THERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'LL HAVE SOME RENDERINGS POSSIBLY THAT WILL BE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. BUT I WANT COUNSEL TO KNOW THIS IS NOT A DEFINITE PLAN OF CHANGING SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE PORT. WHAT THIS IS MORE IS A CONCEPT FOR THE PORT TO KEEP IN MIND, AS THE PORT MOVES FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PORT FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. [00:40:03] SAYING THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE SHEILA LIDSTONE, SHE IS A WHARVES BOARD TRUSTEE. SHE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN MOVING THIS ALONG, AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS TOO, PLEASE. >> SURE. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION. IT WAS PERFECT. THE ONLY THING THAT I MIGHT ADD IS THAT AS A BOARD, THE MEMBERS OF THE WHARVES BOARD CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE, CONTINUE TO BE CHALLENGED BY AND TO ENJOY THE MAGNIFICENT GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WITH THE CRUISE INDUSTRY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE CARGO AND COMMERCE INDUSTRIES AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH IS THAT WE NEED PARKING AND AS YOU GO TO VISIT ANYTHING NEAR THE PORT, YOU SEE LOTS AND LOTS OF SURFACE PARKING. AS A BOARD, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO CREATE BETTER PARKING AND ALSO TO CREATE A FRIENDLIER ENVIRONMENT THAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO ENJOY, THAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO COME AND LEARN ABOUT THE PORT, THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT STUDENTS CAN LEARN ABOUT FUTURE CAREERS AT THE PORT. WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT AND MARINA CAME ABOUT TO TALK ON BEHALF OF THE MITCHELL ORGANIZATION. CHRIS REID IS HERE. HE IS OUT OF BOSTON. HE DOES AMAZING WORK. HE'S WORKED WITH GALVESTON MANY TIMES PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM TALK TO US ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCEPTS THAT THE MITCHELL ORGANIZATION HAS FUNDED. CITY COUNCIL AND THE WHARVES BOARD HAVE NEITHER OF US COMMITTED ANY FUNDS AND SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IDEAS THAT COULD REALLY ENHANCE GALVESTON'S FUTURE. WITH THAT, CHRIS. >> GREAT. THANKS. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR HAVING ME. THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME. IT'S A REAL PLEASURE. I THINK THE MAYOR AND SHEILA SET ME UP WELL. I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE AMBITION OF THE PROJECT. WHAT I CAN START WITH, WHAT AN AMAZING ASSET YOU HAVE HERE? AN AMAZING AND UNIQUE ASSET, REALLY. A TRUE WORKING WATERFRONT THAT'S AUTHENTIC. IT'S UNIQUE TO GALVESTON AND YOU CAN SEE IT, AND IT'S STEPS FROM YOUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AT THE STRAND. THOSE TWO THINGS WORKING TOGETHER, WE SEE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY THERE. AS YOU LOOK AROUND, AS YOU GET TO THE WATERFRONT, YOU SEE OIL RIGS, YOU SEE WORKING BOATS, YOU SEE CRUISE SHIPS, YOU SEE CARGO SHIPS, YOU SEE PLEASURE BOATS, YOU SEE THE MOSQUITO FLEET TRAIG. THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY, AND REALLY MAKE SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO INVENT A PLACE. THERE'S ALREADY A PLACE HERE, AND WHERE ELSE CAN YOU SEE SCENES LIKE THIS? YOU JUST OPEN A DOOR, WALK IN AND YOU GET PELICANS AND FISH AND FISH GUYS ARE ALL WRESTLING WITH EACH OTHER. YET, THERE ARE BIG QUESTIONS. HOW DO YOU GET THERE. THERE'S A BIG ROAD, HARVEST SIDE DRIVE, FIVE LANES OF TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE STRAND AND THE WATERFRONT. YOU THEN HAVE LAYERS OF SURFACE PARKING AND OTHER STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE TO GET TO THE WATERFRONT AND ONCE YOU GET THERE, SOMETIMES YOU'RE LEFT A LITTLE LONE, A LITTLE HOT. THERE'S NO ACCOMMODATION FOR PEOPLE, NOWHERE TO SIT, NOTHING REALLY TO DO, BUT TO LOOK AROUND AND I THINK THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THAT EXPERIENCE FOR VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE. YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THIS PORT ON THE CRUISE. BOATS, AND SO GIVING THEM AN AMAZING ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE EXPERIENCE GIVES THEM A GOOD IMAGE OF THE CITY AS WELL. OTHER CITIES AROUND THE WORLD HAVE REALLY TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THEIR WORKING WATERFRONTS AND MADE A REAL PUBLIC DESTINATION THERE. THIS IS AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND. YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND IMAGE, THE PORT IS STILL FUNCTIONING HERE, BUT PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION IS MADE. GREEN SPACES ARE MADE, GATHERING SPACES ARE MADE. SOME OF THE OLD INDUSTRIAL PARTS, GRAIN SILOS IN THE MIDDLE ARE RETAINED TO GET THAT AUTHENTIC SENSE OF CULTURE. YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT, HOW ALL OF THIS KNITS ITSELF INTO THE URBAN FABRIC, TREES, PLANTINGS, REAL VISUAL ENHANCEMENTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT AS WELL. SAN DIEGO IS AN AMAZING EXAMPLE OF THIS, A WORKING CRUISE PORT, WORKING CARGO PORT. YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE A BATTLESHIP HERE THAT'S A TOURIST DESTINATION, BUT THEY'VE ADDED IN PEDESTRIAN PROMENADES, SEATING AREAS, VEGETATION TO COOL THE ENVIRONMENT, CAFES, RESTROOMS, ART, [00:45:03] ALL THE AMENITIES THAT MAKE FOR AN INCREDIBLE DAY FOR YOUR FAMILY OR IF YOU'RE COMING IN AND OUT OF TOWN, IT GIVES YOU REALLY SOMETHING TO DO. THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS TO CREATING OPEN SPACE. BUT THERE'S ALSO ECONOMIC VALUE IN CREATING OPEN SPACE AS WELL AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY REPORTS ON THE LEFT AS THE LINCOLN INSTITUTE, THE ECONOMIC VALUE OF OPEN SPACE, AND OTHERS ARE DOING WORK THAT REALLY SHOW THE MULTIPLE BENEFITS AND THOSE INCLUDE INCREASES IN PROPERTY VALUE, INCREASES IN RENTAL VALUE, INCREASED SPENDING BECAUSE YOU'RE BRINGING MORE PEOPLE TO THE WATERFRONT. SPURRING NEW DEVELOPMENT, SMALL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES AND THE LIKE. HERE WE'RE BUILDING ON A GREAT FOUNDATION, THE 2019 STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN FROM THE PORT, DID START TO SPECULATE ABOUT CONSOLIDATING PARKING, OPENING UP SOME OF THE SITES [NOISE] IN GEESE AND THE MUSEUM THERE FOR OTHER KINDS OF CIVIC ACTIVITIES. SO WE REALLY WANT TO BUILD ON THAT MOMENTUM. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BETTER CONNECTIVITY FROM THE STRAND TO THE WATERFRONT, A BETTER WATERFRONT EXPERIENCE WITH A CONNECTED BOARDWALK AND A NUMBER OF AMENITIES THERE TO CAPTURE PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME HOMEWORK. WE'VE MET WITH BUSINESS OWNERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE SERVICING NEEDS OF THESE BUSINESSES, WE NEED TO KEEP THEM OPERATING. WE'VE COUNTED EVERY SINGLE PARKING SPACE THAT'S OUT THERE AND STARTED TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO CONSOLIDATE THAT INTO PARKING STRUCTURES TO OPEN UP LAND FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH ROGER AND THE PORT STAFF ON SOME OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT WORKS AND PROPOSALS. THIS IS THE NEW CRUISE TERMINAL A PEER 16-18 AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MAYBE WATERFRONT CONNECTIONS WITH BOARDWALK AND GREEN SPACE THERE. WE'VE ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SOME FOLKS FROM THE EAST END AS WELL TO TALK THROUGH SOME OPPORTUNITIES. AS THE MAYOR SAID, THESE ARE FOR CONCEPTUAL PURPOSES ONLY, BUT THE IDEA IS TRANSFORMING THIS WORKING WATERFRONT, BUILDING AROUND SOME OF THE WORKING ASSETS THAT YOU'VE GOT, BUILDING AROUND SOME OF THE RETAIL ASSETS THAT YOU'VE GOT, CREATING A CONTINUOUS WOODEN BOARDWALK ALONG THE WATERFRONT AND THEN CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREEN SPACE AND GATHERING SPACE AS WELL. WHAT THIS DOES IS ALLOW FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR SHADED AREAS THAT COOL THE ENVIRONMENT THAT CREATE REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLACES, BUT ALSO BUFFER SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FROM HARBORSIDE. OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE PLAY FOUNTAINS THAT WILL TRACK KIDS AND FAMILIES RIGHT DOWN TO THE WATERFRONT AND REALLY OFFER NEW KINDS OF EXPERIENCE IN AND AROUND THE FUNCTIONS OF THE PORT THAT'S ALREADY THERE. >> LOOKING HERE, THIS IS THE MOSQUITO FLEET IN THE MIDDLE GROUND. THE IDEA OF HAVING A TRIANGULAR PARK MAYBE AS ONE OF THE FIRST PIECES OF THIS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE PORT AND GIVING ACCESS TO THE ACTIVITY OF THE FISHING FLEET. THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETHINK PARKING HERE INTO PARKING STRUCTURES AND DON'T THINK ABOUT THE GRAY BUILDINGS THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. THINK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS. OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE REALLY INFORMED BY ART, BY DESIGN, BY PLANTING. THESE ALSO HAVE GROUND LEVEL RETAIL TO ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE AS WELL. WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL RETAIL AND ADDITIONAL ATTRACTIONS THERE AS WELL. NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO BEFORE ANY OF THAT HAPPENS. BUT OFTENTIMES WHAT CITIES ARE DOING IS PUTTING IN PLACE POP-UP PARKS, TEMPORARY ACTIVITIES, SEATING, SHADE, PLANTS, UMBRELLAS, FOOD CARTS, FOOD VENDORS, JUST TO GET SOME ACTIVITY GOING, AND TO TEST OUT IDEAS. DOES IT WORK BETTER IN ONE PLACE OR THE OTHER? WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF ACTIVITIES? WHAT SORTS OF THINGS REALLY ATTRACT PEOPLE? THIS IS ONE WAY TO WET EVERYBODY'S APPETITE, BUILD SOME MOMENTUM, TEST THINGS OUT, IT'S QUICK AND CHEAP, AND THEN BUILD ON THAT AS YOU BEGIN TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. WITH THAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CREATE A WORKING WATERFRONT, BUT A WORKING WATERFRONT THAT'S ALSO OPEN TO PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT GIVES PUBLIC ACCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR MORE ENJOYMENT THAT CREATES A TRUE AND AUTHENTIC DESTINATION AT THE HEART OF THE PORT, SOMETHING THAT'S AUTHENTICALLY GALVESTON. WITH THAT, I'LL SAY THANK YOU AND OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND MAYBE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC. WE HAVE AT THE TABLE HERE, RODGER REES, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BOARD, [00:50:03] AND WE HAVE VICK PEARSON OUR CHAIRMAN OF THE WHARVES BOARD HERE TOO. COUNCIL? YES, BOB. >> LIKE CHRIS MENTIONED, HE'S CONSULTED WITH OTHERS ON THIS PROJECT, INCLUDING THE EAST END HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE ALSO I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS THERE. WE STARTED TALKING TO CHRIS AND MARINA PROBABLY A YEAR AGO ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THEY'VE BEEN ATTENTIVE ENOUGH TO COME BACK AND MEET WITH US SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THIS PROJECT. HE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD'S BOARD ON OCTOBER 6TH. WE HAD SOME REPRESENTATIVES AT EAST END THERE FOR THAT. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND ACCOUNTABILITY, I'M JUST GOING TO READ WHAT MY PRESENTATION WAS TO THE BOARD FOR IT ON THAT DAY. THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE AS CRAIG SAID, OVERALL. I HAVE MY THREE MINUTES AND I SAID, I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU IT'S AN EXCITING TIME FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THE WATERFRONT. THINGS ARE CHANGING QUICKLY THAT WILL RESULT IN A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN THE AREA FROM CRUISE SHIP PASSENGERS AND SERVICE TO BATTLESHIP AND THE BUSINESSES THAT FOLLOW IT. STAFF'S COVERED A LOT OF GREAT CONCEPTS, AND I'D LIKE TO MENTION ONE PART THAT REPRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY. WITH THE LIPTON T BUILDING COMING DOWN AND DEL MONTE GONE, THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THE AREA BETWEEN THE MOSQUITO FLEET AND CRUISE TERMINAL 15 IN A NEW WAY. MANY OTHER WATERFRONT CITIES HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY DOING FOR A LONG TIME. MAKE THE WATER'S EDGE ACCESSIBLE TO PEDESTRIANS. PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO THE WATERFRONT. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE AND ACCOMMODATING AND PEOPLE WILL COME. JUST LIKE THEY DO ON WATERFRONTS IN BALTIMORE, VANCOUVER, BOSTON, SAN DIEGO, PORTLAND, WASHINGTON. WHEN PEOPLE COME, THE BUSINESSES THAT SELL STUFF TO THEM FOLLOWS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE FOR BOTH IN THAT AREA. A BOARDWALK AS SHOWN IN YOUR MASTER PLAN WOULD CONNECT ALL THE WATERFRONT ATTRACTIONS AND PEOPLE ALONG THE WATER'S EDGE ALL THE WAY FROM THE EAST END OF PIER 25 TERMINAL TO THE LATEST CRUISE SHIP TERMINAL AT PIER 16. IN THIS CASE, WHAT'S GOOD FOR TOURISTS IS ALSO GOOD FOR LOCALS AND WHAT'S GOOD FOR VANCOUVER, BOSTON, AND BALTIMORE IS GOOD FOR GALVESTON. EVERYBODY LOVES THE WATERFRONT. THERE ARE OBSTACLES TO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND CHRIS IS ADDRESSING THEM. MOBILITY CONFLICT WITH THE INNER CRUISE SHIP SERVICE ROADS AND THE PEDESTRIANS GETTING FROM THEIR PARKED CAR TO THE WATERFRONT ATTRACTIONS AND PRIMARILY A SAFETY LONG HARBOR SIDE. THERE'LL BE MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE PEOPLE TRYING TO CROSS HARBOR SIDE FROM THE STRAND AREA. THERE IS NO ONE SOLUTION. TRAFFIC CALMING STRATEGIES CAN HELP AS WELL AS SCHEDULING MOVEMENT OF CRUISE SHIP TRAFFIC AND WHERE IT ENTERS AND EXITS HARBOR SIDE. THEN I LEFT HIM WITH THIS. AS YOU CONSIDER HOW TO DEVELOP THE AREA AROUND PIER 19, REMEMBER, THAT YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST HISTORIC SITES ON AN ISLAND FULL OF HISTORIC SITES. THE MOSQUITO FLEET BASIN WAS ENTERED INTO THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN 1975, AND IS PROTECTED BY CITY GALVESTON ORDINANCE. THERE'S A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE THAT HISTORY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA THAT COULD GIVE IT A UNIQUE IDENTITY WHILE TELLING AN IMPORTANT PART OF GALVESTON HISTORY. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY, THE PORT, LANDRY'S, THE SEALY & SMITH FOUNDATION TO COLLABORATE AND DEVELOP A PLAN OF ACTION THAT CAN BENEFIT BOTH TOURISM AND RESIDENTS FOR GALVESTON AND THAT LAST STATEMENT THERE. I JUST WANT TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON. WE HAVE A TENDENCY IN GALVESTON TO BE OUR SILO WHEN WE DO THINGS, NOT JUST EVERYBODY. IN PARTICULAR, IT'S EASIER THAT WAY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO ARRIVE AT A BETTER, MORE RESILIENT, MORE LONG-LASTING VISION IF WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS DOWN THERE, INCLUDING THE SEALY & SMITH FOUNDATION, WHICH OWNS THE LIPTON T BUILDING, WHICH IS ALMOST GONE. OF COURSE, LANDRY'S AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPERATING DOWN THERE, THE PARTY BOATS AND THE SHIP FLEET AND COLLABORATING WITH PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THEM JUST AS MUCH AS IT IS FOR TOURISTS. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, BOB. I APPRECIATE THAT. THE BOARD DID EMBRACE THIS CONCEPT AND MAY BE ASKING WELL, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? IN RESPONSE TO THIS AND SOME OTHER TOPICS THAT ARE ALONG THESE TYPES OF LINES, OUR CHAIRPERSON OF THE BOARD, VICK PEARSON, APPOINTED A REALTY COMMITTEE AT THE PORT OF GALVESTON AND HAD TALKED WITH ME ABOUT IT. THEY HAVE WHARVES BOARD OF TRUSTEES ON THAT. I THINK SHEILA, YOU'RE ON THAT REALTY COMMITTEE, MAY BE THE CHAIR OF THAT REALITY COMMITTEE. >> WHARVES CHAIRMAN. >> WE HAD THREE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ON THAT REALTY COMMITTEE. WE HAD SHARON, MARIE AND JOHN LISTOWSKI. BOB HAS APPROACHED ME AND WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE. THEY ARE GOING TO NOW THIS REALTY COMMITTEE. VIC, WOULD YOU MAYBE MENTION HOW THAT WOULD INTERPLAY WITH THIS CONCEPT AND HOW YOU WOULD USE IT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE YOU ON THE COMMITTEE, [00:55:05] AND WE DON'T HAVE A CHAIR. IT'S A COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE BUT IT'LL BE WITH WILLY GONZALEZ AND RICHARD MOORE FROM THE PORT AND THE THREE MEMBERS JUST BRAINSTORM IDEAS WITH THIS BEING PROBABLY THE AREA, IT'S NOT [INAUDIBLE] DEAL WITH OUR WEST END CARGO AREA. IT'S MOSTLY THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO CONCENTRATE ON AND THE EXTERIOR OF THE CARGO AREA. THEY WON'T BE DEALING WITH ANY OF THE CARGO PART OF THE PORT WHARVES BOARD PROPERTY. BUT AT THE EXTERIOR AND ESPECIALLY THIS PROJECT HERE. THIS IS A VISUAL CONCEPT AND HOW WE CAN BRING THAT CONCEPT TO REALITY WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS. >> VERY GOOD. THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE, COUNCILMAN FINKLEA. >> CHAIRMAN PEARSON, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. >> SURE. >> COULD YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE? >> YEAH. >> WHAT IS THE COMMITTEE'S TIMELINE OF COMING FORWARD EITHER WITH A PLAN AND STRATEGY FOR IMPLEMENTATION? >> WE WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT THE GUIDELINES OF THE COMMITTEE, PROBABLY AT OUR JUNE MEETING AND THEN OVER THE SUMMER, COME BACK, PROBABLY IN JULY OR AUGUST WOULD BE PROBABLY THE FIRST REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE. >> FANTASTIC. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES, MARIE AND THEN ALEX. >> I THINK THAT AREA DEFINITELY SERVES THE MOST OPPORTUNITY HAVING GROWN UP ON THE EAST COAST. I COVERED THE BALTIMORE AREA AND THEY DID SUCH AN AMAZING JOB OF HAVING WORKING FOR TOURIST OPPORTUNITY. IT'S FUNNY, WE JUST HAD MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, WHO'S WONDERFUL AND 91 YEARS OLD. SHE ALWAYS ASKED TO GO SEE THE MOSQUITO FLEET BECAUSE SHE'S A BIRDER AND SHE WANTS TO GET PICTURES OF THE BROWN PELICANS SHE WANTS TO GO TO KATIE'S TO SEE HOW THE BIRDS COME IN. THEN WHEN WE HAD OUR SISTER CITY FROM JAPAN, I TOOK THEM TO KATIE'S TO JUST SEE IT AND THEY LOVED THAT. THEY LOVED IT. I THINK WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >> ALEX? >> I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN'S POINT OF COLLABORATION THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN, THAT WAS A POINT THAT WAS RAISED BY SOME OF THE PIER 19 AND MOSQUITO FLEET. SOME OF THEM ARE CONSTITUENTS OF MINE AND BUSINESSES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE COLLABORATING WITH THEM. BECAUSE PIER 19 IS UNDERNEATH THE CHARTER. I GUESS, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WORKING WITH THE COURT'S ATTORNEY, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T VIOLATE THE CHARTER. I APPRECIATE RODGER REES FOR SHOWING UP TO A MEETING THAT WAS SPARKED BECAUSE OF THIS PLAN AND HELPING QUELL THE CONCERNS AND ALLEVIATING THAT WE ALL CAN WORK TOGETHER. BUT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE BUSINESSES AND IT'S A GOOD PLAN. JUST FOR THE RECORD, PELICANS, IT'S THE BOLIVAR AIR FORCE, >> I LIKE THAT. YES, MA'AM. >> I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THE PRESENTATION AND I LOVE THE VISUAL PART OF IT. I HAVE IDEAS, BUT YOU JUST BROUGHT IT ON, AND I LOVE THAT. EVENTUALLY, I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING WEST, BUT IT IS A PLAN BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING LOTS THAT THE PORT USES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHERE WE CAN ENHANCE THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UP HARBOR SIDE WHERE IT WILL BENEFIT TOURISTS BUT WILL ALSO BENEFIT RESIDENTS HERE, SO THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU. I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THAT PRESENTATION. >> WE HAVE COUNCILMAN PORRETTO [PHONETIC] AND THEN FINKLEA [PHONETIC]. >> ONE THING THAT I GUESS FORGOT ABOUT FOR A SECOND, BUT THE BATTLESHIP, TEXAS, THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS THERE TOO AS WELL. I THINK WEIGHING THAT INTO THE PLAN AS WELL AND MAYBE COLLABORATING WITH THEM TO TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO, I UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE TO PUT IT THERE. HOW WE DO THAT IS A WHOLE ANOTHER PROJECT, AND ONE THING WE'VE GOT TO PIECEMEAL, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR. >> THAT'S COMING TO OUR AGENDA SHORTLY, ISN'T IT VIC AND ROGER? THE BATTLESHIP, TEXAS. >> IT'S NOT ON THIS MONTH'S AGENDA. >> BUT WE'RE STILL IN TRYING TO NEGOTIATE. >> TONY, COME FORWARD. WE GOT TONY BROWN, WHO IS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE COURT AND THE WHARVES BOARD. MORNING, TONY. >> GOOD MORNING. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY BRIEFLY, [01:00:01] WE'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM. WE WILL BE UPDATING TRUSTEES IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT NEXT WEEK'S MEETING ON WHERE WE ARE ON THAT. >> VERY GOOD. DAVID. >> I'D LIKE TO COMMEND MR. REESE AND THE WHARVES BOARD FOR REALLY TAKING TO HEART SOME OF THE FIRST CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU AND I HAD ABOUT MAXIMIZING THE USE OF THE CITY'S MOST VALUABLE PROPERTY IN THE ENTIRE CITY AND THEN LOOKING TO HIGHER AND BETTER USES. I MEAN. MS. LINSTONE [PHONETIC] SPOKE ABOUT PARKING STRUCTURES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU. >> I DO HAVE ONE LAST. I LOVE THE WORD COLLABORATION, AND MARINA IS A GREAT PERSON. >> YES, SHE IS. I WANT TO THANK THE MITCHELL FOUNDATION AND MARINA WARNEY FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. SHE'S NOT HERE. SHE HAD ANOTHER COMMITMENT OR SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE THIS MORNING, BUT I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM. THEY STARTED THIS WHOLE BALL ROLLING. THEY DID. CHRIS, THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. PLEASURE. NICE TO SEE YOU TOO. THANKS, EVERYBODY. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ROGER, YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY SEATED IF YOU DON'T MIND. JANELLE, IF WE COULD READ ITEM 3D, PLEASE, MA'AM. [3.D. Discussion Of Cruise Terminal 16 And Associated Parking Garage (Brown)] >> ITEM 3D. DISCUSSION OF CRUISE TERMINAL 16 AND ASSOCIATED PARKING GARAGE. ONE, PROPOSED BOND STRUCTURE IN ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON AND TWO, DESIGN OPERATIONS AND TIMELINE OF CONSTRUCTION. >> CSILLA, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. WE HAVE THIS IN ORDER, BUT WE DO HAVE ROGER WITH US. HE'S GOING TO BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THE SECOND ITEM UNDER THIS ABOUT DESIGN OPERATIONS AND TIMELINE OF THE CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCES, CSILLA LUDANYI [PHONETIC] WITH US. YOU'LL BE TALKING CSILLA ABOUT THE BOND STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL POSSIBLY IN JUNE FOR APPROVAL, AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT, AND IT'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY, CSILLA IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE. >> I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING VERY LITTLE, BUT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CAMERON THATCHER. HE'S THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR, AND BARRON WALLACE. I SHOULD KNOW THAT. I SEE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY PRACTICALLY. HE IS THE CITY'S BOND COUNCIL. THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, SINCE PART OF THE COUNCIL IS NEW, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DEBT ISSUANCE IN GENERAL, AND ALSO, SPECIFIC TO THE ISSUANCE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY THE COURT FOR WHICH THE CITY WILL BE THE ISSUER. I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN, CAMERON, AND BARRON, IF YOU WANT TO SIT UP THERE AS YOU-ALL DO THE PRESENTATION. >> WOULD ONE OF YOU LIKE TO SIT HERE AND YOU CAN HAVE ONE DOWN THERE. >> FOR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S CSILLA. IN MOST COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE HEAR AT LEAST SEVEN DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF HER NAME, BUT IT'S CSILLA. >> ABSOLUTELY, AND I AM VERY FORGIVING ABOUT IT, BUT IT IS CSILLA. >> IT'S SPELLED C-S-I-L-L-A. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. I'VE PUT TOGETHER THIS LITTLE PRESENTATION. THE FIRST SECTION OF IT IS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OR BONDS 101 IF YOU WILL, FOR NEW MEMBERS. I'VE PRESENTED THIS AS A FOR-YOUR-INFORMATION TYPE PURPOSE. I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE, BUT GOING THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PRESENTATION WILL TAKE QUITE A LOT OF TIME. I'M GOING TO PRESENT IT THAT WAY AS SUCH. FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OR EXISTING MEMBERS, DO YOU-ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOND ISSUANCE PROCESS TO BEGIN WITH? OTHERWISE, THE SECOND SECTION IS MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE PORT BONDS THAT WE WILL BE PRESENTING LATER. >> CAMERON, I'LL JUST MAKE A COUPLE OF INTRODUCTIONS. I'M BARRON WALLACE WITH BRACEWELL. GOOD TO BE WITH ALL OF YOU THIS MORNING. A FEW THINGS I THINK ABOUT WHEN I DO THESE PRESENTATIONS IS THAT TYPICALLY YOU DO ISSUE BONDS ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS, MEANING THAT THE INVESTORS TAKE THAT INTEREST INCOME AND IT'S TAX EXEMPT TO THEM. THAT ALLOWS THE CITY OR ANY PUBLIC ENTITY TO GET A LOWER RATE OF INTEREST. THAT'S POSITIVE WHEN YOU'RE OUT AND WE CALL IT GOING INTO THE CAPITAL MARKETS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE SELLING YOUR BONDS TO THE CAPITAL MARKETS. THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY, I THINK, CRITICAL IS THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES. PEOPLE CALL THEM GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, WE MIGHT CALL THEM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS. THOSE ARE BONDS SECURED BY TAXES, AD VALOREM TAXES. THEN YOU HAVE REVENUE BONDS. IN OUR STATE, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. WHEN SOMEONE SAYS CONSTITUTIONAL DEBT, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TAX BONDS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL LIMIT ON YOUR TAXES. [01:05:02] WHEN THEY SAY REVENUE BONDS, THAT'S A REALLY DIFFERENT THING, AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOT CONSTITUTIONAL DEBT. IT IS A DEBT, OF COURSE, BUT IT'S PAYABLE SOLELY FROM REVENUES, WHETHER THEY BE WATER AND SEWER OR WHETHER THEY BE PORT REVENUES, WHATEVER THE REVENUE SOURCE MAY BE. THAT'S ONE OF THE TWO BIG DIVIDING LINES WHEN WE DO OUR WORK IS, WHETHER IT'S TAX EXEMPT OR TAXABLE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT, AND CAMERON HAS DONE A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION ABOUT THE UNDERWRITERS AND THE FAS, BUT I THINK SOME OF THAT WILL COME OUT IN THE WASH, SO MAYBE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK THOSE AS WE GO. >> I WANT TO ALSO TALK ABOUT PHILOSOPHICALLY THE CITY'S COUNCIL'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE PORT. ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER, CITY COUNCIL HAS SOME INVOLVEMENT WITH THE PORT THAT WE APPOINT THE WHARVES BOARD MEMBERS AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE THEIR THEIR BONDS AS YOU'RE GOING TO BRING TO US. OTHER THAN THAT, CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF PURVIEW OVER THE OPERATION OF THE PORT. IT WAS STRUCTURED THAT WAY BY OUR FOREFATHERS IN OUR CHARTER, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS ESTABLISHED. THE REASON WE HAVE THIS ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS WE WILL HAVE A BOND COMING FORWARD, AND THIS BOND REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF COUNCIL. THAT MEANS FOR THIS TO BE APPROVED, IT HAS TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF SIX POSITIVE VOTES TO BE APPROVED. GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> MOVING ON TO PAGE 13 OF THIS PRESENTATION. THIS IS WHERE I GET INTO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE BOND, BUT THIS FIRST PAGE IS A SET UP. THE PORT IS LOOKING TO FUND ABOUT $150 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECT FUNDS. AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THE CITY OF GALVESTON IS THE BOND ISSUER IN THIS INSTANCE, SO THEY WILL BE ISSUING IT ON BEHALF OF THE PORT. THESE BONDS WILL NOT BE, AS BARRON WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TAX DEBT AND REVENUE DEBT. THESE ARE REVENUE BONDS PLEDGED BY PORT REVENUES, SO NO OTHER TAXES OR REVENUES OF THE CITY ARE PLEDGED TO THESE BONDS. FOR YOUR INFORMATION AT THE BOTTOM, WE HAVE THE GENERAL OBLIGATION CREDIT RATING OF THE CITY, WHICH IS ALL TAX BACK DEBT. WE HAVE HOTEL OCCUPANCY DEBT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY RATED, BUT THEN THE PORT HAS ITS OWN CREDIT RATING. WHEN THE CREDIT AGENCIES LOOK AT THIS PORT ISSUANCE, THEY WILL NOT LOOK AT THE CITY'S DEBT ISSUANCES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY ARE LOOKING SOLELY AT THE PORT AS ITS OWN SEPARATE ENTITY, BUT ISSUING THROUGH THE CITY. >> I'LL MAKE ONE COMMENT, AND WE'LL BE DOING THIS A LOT, SO I'LL TRY TO DO IT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PORT BONDS ARE ISSUED THROUGH WHAT WE CALL A TRUST INDENTURE. WE DON'T USE THAT FOR CITY DEBT. CITY ISSUES ITS DEBT THROUGH A BOND ORDINANCE AND HAVE PAYING AGENTS. TRUST INDENTURE IS A LITTLE MORE SECURE WAY OF DOING IT. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT YOU NEED TO TELL THE BONDHOLDERS THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN FLOW OF THE REVENUES. THE PORT HAS COVETED IT IN THIS TRUST INDENTURE, WHICH WE APPROVED A NEW ONE LAST YEAR, SO IT'S UPDATED, WHICH IS GREAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION EXPENSES, THEN THE NET REVENUES, WHICH IS WHERE THE BONDS GET PAID, AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO HAVE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE PORT IMPROVEMENTS. THAT LAYS IT ALL OUT. WHEN YOU SEE THE BONDS COME BEFORE THIS BODY NEXT MONTH OR WHENEVER IT DOES COME, I'LL POINT THAT OUT AND SHOW YOU THAT FLOW OF FUNDS, BUT THAT HELPS EXPLAIN HOW THE REVENUE FUNDS FLOW FOR THE PORT. >> EXACTLY. >> THE NEXT PAGE IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECTS. >> BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOURTH POINT. THE BONDS WILL NOT BE SECURED BY ANY OTHER REVENUES OR TAXES OF THE CITY. IF FOR SOME REASON, THE PORTS BOND, THE PAYMENTS WERE NOT BEING SATISFIED, THAT DOES NOT COME BACK TO THE CITY AT ALL. >> NOT AT ALL. THIS NEXT PAGE IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY REPORT IS LOOKING TO FINANCE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY ROGER AND HIS GROUP. EACH OF THESE AS THE MAYOR SAID, WILL BE FULLY PAID BY PORT REVENUES, THE NET REVENUES AS BARRON EXPLAINED. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS HERE, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S CALLED SERIES 2024 A, THAT IS AMT OR OTHERWISE, ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX. INVESTORS WHO ARE SUBJECT TO THAT THIS SERIES OF BONDS IS TRULY NOT TAX EXEMPT TO THEM, [01:10:04] BUT THAT MEETS A CERTAIN INVESTOR THRESHOLD THAT WE WOULD GET INTO TAX LAWYERS AND LET THEM DEAL WITH. BUT OTHERWISE, THAT'S TAX EXEMPT FOR EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S NOT SUBJECT TO AMT. THEN WE HAVE THE SERIES 2024B BONDS, WHICH IS NON AMT OR TRULY TAX EXEMPT TO INVESTORS. THAT IS FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE ESTIMATED AT $40-45 MILLION. THE TOTAL, AS I SAID, IS ABOUT 150 MILLION IN PROJECT FUNDS THAT THE PORT SEEKING. THE NEXT COUPLE OF PAGES ARE JUST AN OVERVIEW [NOISE] OF AS PROVIDED BY THE PORT AND ITS FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR BOTH SERIES AND COMBINED IN AGGREGATE THERE. BASED ON CURRENT MARKET RATES PLUS A LITTLE BIT OF CUSHION THAT THEY USE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT ABOUT AN ALL IN INTEREST RATE OF 4.846 RIGHT NOW. TO FUND 148 OR $150 MILLION OF PROJECT FUNDS, THEY NEED $155.5 MILLION BASED ON CURRENT MARKET RATES RIGHT NOW. >> YOU'LL NOTE AT THE BOTTOM LINE ITEM DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUND, THE TRUST INDENTURE REQUIRES FUNDING THAT DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUND, I BELIEVE, TO THE ANNUAL AVERAGE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE. THAT $13 MILLION IN AN APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE, BUT IMPORTANTLY, THAT'S FURTHER SECURITY FOR THE BONDHOLDERS AND A LITTLE BIT OF A CUSHION, SHOULD THERE EVER BE ANY SITUATION YOU'VE GOT THE RESERVE FUND TO DRAW ON? >> YES. THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE SHOWS THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE COVERAGE. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO SEE RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU'RE USING 2023 NET REVENUES AS SHOWN IN THAT SECOND TO LAST COLUMN. THOSE ARE THE REVENUES OF THE PORT, THE ESTIMATED COMBINED DEBT SERVICE OF THE PORT'S EXISTING DEBT PLUS THIS ESTIMATED NEW ISSUANCE IS ABOUT $17.5 MILLION ANNUALLY, BUT WE HAVE ALMOST $30 MILLION OF NET REVENUES THAT PROVIDES COVERAGE. THE COVERAGE RATIO IS HIGH, IT NEEDS TO BE 1.25 TIMES COVERAGE PER THE INDENTURE. >> TESTING ME, BUT IT'S CLOSE TO THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT INVESTORS ARE GOING TO LIKE AND HONESTLY, IF THEY GO TO GET BOND INSURANCE, THAT'S WHAT BOND INSURANCE IS GOING TO REQUIRE AS WELL, MINIMUM OF 1.25 TIMES COVERAGE. >> THAT ALSO ASSUMES NO GROWTH. >> THIS ASSUMES NO GROWTH. THIS IS THERE'S NO GROWTH IN REVENUES, AS YOU CAN SEE, REVENUES ARE STAGNANT. THE OTHER THING THAT IS NOT SHOWN IN THIS TABLE IS THAT DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUND. TYPICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE LAST PAYMENT OR SOMETIMES CLASS 2 PAYMENTS, THAT GETS APPLIED TO THAT. THOSE LAST TWO DEBT SERVICE RESERVE OR THE COVERAGE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, HONESTLY, BECAUSE YOU'LL BE USING THOSE TO COVER THAT. >> NOW THAT INTEREST RATES ARE HIGHER, IT DOES EARN INTEREST THAT FUNNELS BACK THROUGH THE DEBT SERVICE, YOU GET A LITTLE BENEFIT THERE. BUT THIS IS A TYPICAL REVENUE BOND STRUCTURE WITH THE COVERAGE. ANYTIME YOU GO ISSUE REVENUE BONDS, YOU HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN ADDITIONAL BONDS TEST. YOU'VE MADE THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE BONDHOLDERS THAT HAVE TO PASS THIS TEST EVERY TIME YOU ISSUE BONDS. THE 1205 IS THAT TEST, AND SO YOU CAN SEE YOU EASILY COVER IT AND THOSE ARE REALLY THE FY23 OF PRIOR REVENUES AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO PROJECT OR PREDICT WHERE THE REVENUES ARE, YOU CAN DO THIS DEBT BASED ON YOUR CURRENT REVENUES. >> WHAT'S IT SO WE GET INTEREST OFF THE BOND? >> WHAT HAPPENS IS IS YOU HAVE INVESTORS, THEY BUY YOUR BOND AND GIVE YOU CASH TO BILL YOUR PROJECT, THE INVESTORS GET THE INTEREST EARNINGS, REALLY. BUT WHEN I MENTIONED INTEREST, YOU'VE GOT THIS 13 MILLION SITTING IN THE TRUST ACCOUNT, IT WILL EARN INTEREST BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO INVEST IT PURSUANT TO THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT. >> THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER COMPONENT, JUST A SMALL COMPONENT OF THE TIMING OF WHEN WE RECEIVE THE BOND PROCEEDS AND THEY ARE FULLY SPENT. THAT CAN ALSO EARN INTEREST SO YOU'RE TALKING, IF YOU DO $150 MILLION, THEN YOU'VE GOT $150 MILLION WORTH OF INTEREST ACCRUING OR BEING PAID AS THE MONEY DOWN. >> DO WE KNOW THE RATE ON THAT? >> RIGHT NOW OR IS IT HARD. >> WHAT YOU LOOK AT IS REALLY YOU CAN ONLY INVEST IT IN OBLIGATIONS THAT ARE PURSUANT TO THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT. RIGHT NOW, MOST OF MY CLIENTS ARE LOOKING AT SHORT TERM TREASURIES. YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SHORT TERM UNDER A YEAR OR A YEAR SO JUST UNDER FIVE AND A QUARTER. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ALL IN INTEREST RATE OF JUST UNDER 5% AND YOU'RE EARNING OVER THAT, THEN YOU CAN RECEIVE SOME POSITIVE ARBITRAGE AND THAT'S WHERE BARRON AND ROGER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SPEND DOWN TEST REQUIREMENT. YOU CAN'T EARN MORE THAN YOU'RE PAYING ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS. [01:15:05] >> OR YOU CAN. >> PAST TWO YEARS. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU WAIT FOR THE PUNCH LINE. >> PAST TWO YEARS YEARS. >> WE'VE GONE THROUGH TEN YEARS OF NOT EVER HAVING TO BRING THIS UP WHEN WE'RE AT 0% INTEREST RATES. [LAUGHTER] IT JUST NEVER WAS AN ISSUE. NOW, WE'RE LIKE, OH, WHAT DO WE DO? THERE ARE INTEREST EARNINGS. YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO EARN SOME INTEREST, BUT THE TAX LAW SAYS, GUYS, YOU DO HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY TOO, SO YOU HAVE A SPEND DOWN THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET OVER TIME. >> YOU MIGHT WELL MENTION THE PREMIUM, IF HE EXPLAINED PREMIUMS. >> I HEARD THAT IN THE BONDS ONE ONE LAST PAGE OF THE BONDS 101. ULTIMATELY, WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU SELL BONDS, THERE IS AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP TO THE INTEREST RATE AND THE PRICE. BONDS CAN BE SOLD THAT CAR, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE SELLING $150 MILLION. INVESTORS ARE GOING TO PAY YOU $150 MILLION IT'S EASY TO PAY THAT TACK. THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHAT GETS SOLD IS PREMIUM BONDS. WE'LL SELL THESE WITH A 5% INTEREST RATE, BUT THEY WILL GET A YIELD OF LOWER THAN THAT AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, MEANS THE INVESTOR IS GOING TO PAY YOU MORE FOR THESE BONDS, 150 MILLION, THEY'LL PAY US I THINK 155 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S SOME PREMIUM BUILT INTO THAT. SAME THING WHEN THE YIELD EXCEEDS THAT INTEREST RATE, THAT MEANS WE'RE SELLING DISCOUNT BONDS. THEY WILL PAY US LESS THAN 150 AND WE HAVE TO PAY BACK MORE. PAGE 11 OF THE PRESENTATION SHOWS THAT IN A VISUAL STANDING THERE. >> THIS BOND IS A 20 YEAR BOND THAT IS WE'RE PROPOSING AND I'M GOING TO USE MY TERMINOLOGY. IS THERE ANY PREPAYMENT PENALTY ON THIS BOND? >> THERE'S NO PREPAYMENT PENALTY OTHER THAN YOU HAVE THE OPTIONAL REDEMPTION DATE. SO TYPICALLY WITH A BOND, YOU'LL FIX OUT 20 OR 30 YEARS. INVESTORS LIKE AN OPTIONAL REDEMPTION DATE OF NO NO LESS THAN 10 YEARS. YOU CAN PREPAY THIS, IT'LL SIT IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT, BUT YOU COULD BE LEARNING EARNING LESS IN THAT ESCROW ACCOUNT THAN WHAT YOU'RE PAYING AND IT DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE. BUT AT 10 YEARS, YOU ARE FREE TO PREPAY AT ALL OR REFUND TO A LOWER RATE. >> I THINK THAT WAS THE THOUGHT YOU HAVEN'T, ROGER. >> EXACTLY, YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO IT IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, BUT IT WILL AFFECT YOUR INTEREST RATES AND THE BONDS. >> JUST TO PUT A FINAL POINT. YOU CAN GET AN EARLIER REDEMPTION, BUT YOU PAY FOR THAT. >> EXACTLY. >> PAY FOR THAT SO IT MAY NOT BE WORTH IT TO PAY 200 BASIS POINTS MORE TO GET A HIGHER RATE WHEN IT'S EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW SO YOU JUST WAIT. >> LIKE I SAID, INVESTORS TEND TO LIKE 10 YEARS, THERE'S A TIME SOMETIMES YOU CAN PUSH TO NINE YEARS WITHOUT ANY PRE-PAY OR WITHOUT ANY PREMIUM PENALTY ON THAT. BUT THAT WE SEE AT THE TIME OF PRICING PUSH THE INVESTORS, SEE WHAT THEY CAN HANDLE WITHOUT REQUESTING MORE INTEREST FROM YOU. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BOND ITSELF OR OF CHELA THAT CHELA, YOU'VE BEEN STANDING IN THE CORNER THERE. I'M SORRY. >> I DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING. I HAD TWO EXPERTS. [LAUGHTER] >> YES, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, PINKY AND BROWN AND THEN ROLLINS. >> WHAT IS THE TIMING OF THE REPORT COMING BACK TO COUNSEL AND ASKING FOR? [NOISE] >> WELL, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PRICING PROCESS OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT ITSELF. REALLY, WHERE WE ARE IS WE'RE ABOUT, I THINK, 60% CONSTRUCTION, 100% IN TERMS OF DESIGN. A WE'RE REALLY ANTICIPATED COMING THIS MONTH. BUT WHEN WE GOT INTO SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN AMT AND NON AMT. [NOISE] >> WHERE THE TIMING WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE FINAL GMPS DUE NEXT MONTH. DEPENDING ON WHEN THOSE ARE DUE NEXT MONTH AND WE CAN FULLY DEFINE THE NUMBER. THAT'S THE ISSUE IS HOW WE DEFINE AMT VERSUS NON AMT, AS WELL AS HOW WE BREAK THOSE DOWN BETWEEN THOSE TWO THOSE TWO CONCEPTS, BUT ALSO WHEN WE GET THE FINAL NUMBERS. >> POTENTIALLY JULY. >>I WOULD THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY AND WE'RE WORKING AND I HAVE CONVERSATIONS YESTERDAY WITH TRYING TO FUND IN JULY. WE GET A LITTLE CONCERNED AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS ON UNCERTAINTY AND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE MARKET SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH IT AND HOPEFULLY BY NEXT MONTH, [01:20:01] WE'LL HAVE THE FINAL NUMBERS. THE PROBLEM IS AS EVERYBODY IS FINDING IN EVERYWHERE, ALL CONSTRUCTION IS NUMBERS ARE ESCALATING. I USUALLY ANALOGY TO THE OTHER DAY AT THE PACK MEETING WHERE YOU'VE GOT INFLATION AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME NUMBER AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HOLDING OUR BREATH TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL NUMBERS COME INTO NEXT MONTH. WE'RE ABOVE AND I'M JUST BEING STRAIGHTFORWARD, WE'RE ABOVE WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PROJECTED AND SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS ON WHAT THAT MIGHT BE. I THINK SOME OF THAT IS WILL BE REALLY, TO ME, THE BIGGEST PIECE THAT I WORRY ABOUT AND MAKE SURE IS THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUNDS, WHERE THOSE COME FROM. WE REALLY FULLY INTEND TO HAVE THE DEBT SERVICE FUNDS COME FROM THE OFFERING. BUT AS THE CONSTRUCTION COST RATE RISE, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO RETHINK A PORTION OF THAT COMING FROM THE BOND OFFERING AND A PORTION OF THAT COMING FROM THE PORTS CASH FLOW. WELL, ALL THAT BEING SAID WE'RE INVESTING $50 MILLION ON THE WEST END OF THE PORT SO THAT'S WHERE WE, MARK AND I AND THE STAFF ARE, WORKING VERY CLOSELY ALMOST EVERY WEEK, EVERY DAY LOOKING TO CASH FLOW. HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT US BECAUSE OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS WE GOT THIS PROJECT, AND THEN WE HAVE THE TWO WEST END PROJECTS AND WE GOT THE DEMOLITION PROJECTS, WE GOT A PAVING PROJECTS. WE HAVE THE MONEY TO HANDLE IT IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT LEVEL OF RESERVES ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH? >> YOUR INTENT IS TO HAVE THOSE RESERVES DONE THROUGH THE BOND PROCEEDS? >> I'M TALKING I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL RESERVES. GENERALLY WE'RE SITTING ON ABOUT $41 MILLION RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'LL BE MATCHING THESE DOLLARS ON THE WEST END, WE'LL BE PUTTING SOME MONEY UP FRONT INITIALLY ON SOME EARLY ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO BUILD AND YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS FROM THE LAST TRANSACTION. THERE'S CERTAIN ITEMS WE GOT TO WE GOT TO GET IN ORDER NOW BECAUSE THE TIMING OF GETTING COMPLETE. MAYBE IT'LL MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS MY HOLE THIS WHOLE BOILS DOWN TO ME AND HOW COMFORTABLE WE ARE AT WHAT RESERVED LEVELS AFTER THIS SAW SAID AND DONE, WHERE DID WE SIT? >> I HAVE A QUESTION. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FOURTH CRUISE TERMINAL IS FANTASTIC AND IT'S A GREAT THING FOR THE RESIDENTS. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE PORT AS WELL. BACK IN SEPTEMBER, I HAD ASKED FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH CRUISE TERMINAL 16 AND HAVE YET TO RECEIVE THAT. >> WE HAVE TO, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED YET EITHER, BUT. >> IT IS GOING TO BE CURRENT AND REFLECT THOSE EXPECTED PROJECTIONS. HOW SOON CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT? >> WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU, JUST BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU A COPY AS SOON AS I GET. AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS, IT'S ON THE SCHEDULE TO BE DONE AND SO I WOULD BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE PARKING GARAGE IS THE BIGGEST UNKNOWN AT THIS STAGE AND WE WERE COMING IN UNDER ON THE TERMINAL, BUT THE PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PILINGS THAT ARE CONCERNED AND ALL THOSE THINGS. WE'RE WE'RE STILL WORKING THOSE NUMBERS, BUT AS SOON AS THAT GETS FINALIZED, IN OTHER WORDS, AS SOON AS THE DESIGN IS EVERYBODY AGREES THAT THIS IS DESIGN, THEN WE'LL HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY. >> THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY ON THE CITY SIDE ON HARBOR SIDE AND HOW ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO IMPACT CITY FACILITIES. HOW DO WE NEED TO RESPOND IN ORDER TO HELP SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF CRUISE TERMINAL 16 AND BEYOND? ALSO THE STOPS RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >> BOB. >> I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE. ROGER, I RECALL, YOU HAVE A GRANT FOR I DON'T KNOW, $350,000 OR SOMETHING TO DO A TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPACT STUDY. [OVERLAPPING] I THAT WHAT COUNSELMAN FINKLEA WAS REFERRING TO, OR? >> NO. I DON'T I DON'T THINK SO. >> MINE IS A TRUE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT IS TYPICALLY A REQUIRE OF LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT THAT THE CITY WOULD REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND SAY, IF WE WERE GOING TO GO DROP DOWN A NEW SHOPPING CENTER SOMEWHERE, THAT DEVELOPER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY TO TELL US WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS ON OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. >> DOES DOES THE SCOPE OF THAT GRANT ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE ISSUES? >> IT DOES. THE CITY, I BELIEVE, ALSO RECEIVED A SAFE STREETS GRANT. IF I'M INCORRECT, THEY ALSO RECEIVED AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME COLLABORATION GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO STAFFS ON HOW COULD WE DO THIS TOGETHER SOMEHOW OR MAKE THIS THING WORK TOGETHER? [01:25:02] SAFE STREETS GRANT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO AND WHERE WE ARE ON THAT PROCESS IS DEFINING THE STATEMENT OF WORK SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED. >> YES, SIR. COUNSEL TO INTERJECT A LITTLE BIT ON TRAFFIC THAT ONE OF THE POSITIVES OF THIS CRUISE TERMINAL GO IN HERE IS ALL THE 18 WHEELERS FROM DEL MANI WILL NOT BE ON HARBORSIDE SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY POSITIVE PART OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT SO THAT'LL BE INCLUDED. >> THANK YOU. >> ONE THING ALONG TRAFFIC THAT I WILL MENTION IS THAT I HAD CONVERSATIONS YESTERDAY WITH TEXTA THEY'RE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT STAGING AREAS FOR TRUCKS. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I GAVE THEM TWO OR THREE LOCATIONS, SMALLER LOCATIONS ON THE ISLAND WHERE WE COULD STAGE TRUCKS OUT OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE THIS IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE CRUISE SHIP, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 40 TRACTOR TRAILER LOADS OF SUPPLIES GOING ON THAT EVERY WEEK. THOSE TRUCKS ARE SOMEWHERE AND WE DON'T WANT THEM SITTING OUT HERE IN THE CITY ANYWHERE BECAUSE THEN WE CAN'T HANDLE THE PASSENGER FLOW. I'M JUST GOING TO BLOW OUR OWN HORN ON THIS TRAFFIC STUFF BECAUSE WE'VE DONE OUR STAFF HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AT HANDLING TRAFFIC. THAT'S PART OF THE INCREASED COST IN BUILDING THIS PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED SOME QUEUING RAMPS TO THE PARKING GARAGE SO THAT WHEN THE TRAFFIC DOES GET INTO THE TERMINAL AREA, THERE'S ABILITY TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC THERE. THE ONLY REALLY ISSUES WE'VE HAD WITH TRAFFIC AT THE NEW CRUISE TERMINAL 25 OF THE RENOVATED 25 WERE TRUCKS AND THE TRUCKS WERE BACKING THINGS UP. WE'VE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF NOW. I KNOW TEXTA JUST OFF NOTE IS THEY'VE GOT ABOUT 15 MILES FROM GALVESTON, THEY'VE GOT ONE OF THE EXITS UP AT MUNCHELO ROAD THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING A FULL SCALE TRUCKING QUEUING AREA. THEY'VE DONE THIS, THEY'RE DOING THIS AT FREEPORT, THEY'RE DOING IT UP IN DALLAS AND THEY FOCUSED ON THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN GALVESTON AND HOUSTON, WHERE COULD WE BUILD THIS FACILITY THAT THEY CAN HOLD 40 TRUCKS AT ONCE AND OFFER SERVICES TO THOSE TRUCKS IN THOSE AREAS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT US, TEXAS CITY, HOUSTON, THOUSANDS OF TRUCKS AND SO THIS IS HOW CARGO MOVES. >> THAT WOULD BE YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING THAT TO BE ON SOMEWHERE REMOTE FROM THE ACTUAL CRUISE SHIP TERMINAL, IS THAT RIGHT? >> EXACTLY. WE'RE DOING THAT NOW, WE'RE USING SOME VACANT LAND WE HAVE NOW TO QUEUE TRAFFIC ON THE WEST END. I PROPOSED YESTERDAY THAT MAYBE THAT TEXTA MIGHT HELP US FUND SOME ADDITIONAL LANES ON THE PORT AND, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OUR NEW INTERNAL ROAD NETWORK, WE WE WERE ON THE FOURTH PHASE OF THAT AND I PROPOSE CAN WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY FROM YOU GUYS TO BUILD SOME EXTRA LANES IN THOSE AREAS TO KEEP TRUCKS OUT OF THIS AREA HERE. >> KEEP FROM INTERFERING WITH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IN THAT. >> WELL, THAT'S THE SCARY PART. >> THE CRUISE LINES TOO, THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF THIS TRAFFIC CONCERN. THEY DON'T DISCOUNT THAT AT ALL. I THINK A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THIS IS CRUISE TERMINAL 10. THE WAY THEY'VE HANDLED THAT TRAFFIC AND MOVED IT IN AND OUT AND HAVE STAGING LANES IN CRUISE TERMINAL 10, IT HAS TURNED OUT TO BE NOT WHAT WE THOUGHT AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN CRUISE. >> THEN THAT SAME ENTRANCE WAY THAT YOU GO INTO 10 WILL BE WHERE YOU ENTER INTO THE NEW CRUISE TERMINAL 16. YOU'LL TAKE INSTEAD OF TAKING A RIGHT, YOU'LL TAKE A LEFT AND YOU'LL START START QUEUING THERE AND THEN WHEN YOU COME INTO THE TERMINAL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO THEY'LL BE QUEUING LANES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE TERMINAL AND THEN UP INTO THE PARKING DECK ON BOTH SIDES. >> THAT'S A REALLY GREAT. I AGREE WITH YOU, CRAIG. THE TRAFFIC HADN'T BEEN THE PROBLEM EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE, BUT IT REALLY DOVETAILS INTO THE STAFF PRESENTATION EARLIER ON ADDRESSING HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONNECT PEOPLE FROM THE STRAND TO THE WATERFRONT BY MANAGING THAT TRAFFIC BETTER. I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING THAT WE'RE DOING BOTH OF THESE. MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, HAVE WE DISCUSSED HOW THE BOND IMPACTS THE BONDING CAPACITY IS? >> THE BONDING CAPACITY FOR THE PORT IS SET BY THE ADDITIONAL BONDS TEST AS BARRON SAID. BASICALLY, THEY CAN ISSUE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN PROVIDE COVERAGE AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS UNDER THAT ADDITIONAL BONDS TEST BASED ON THEIR REVENUES. THIS DOES NOT IMPACT THE CITY'S BOND CAPACITY AT ALL ON THE TAX DEBT OR THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE. >> RELATED TO SINCE THIS. >> WELL, EXCUSE ME. [01:30:03] WE NEED TO GET TO COUNCILMAN RAWLINS. >> JUST GO AHEAD THE CRUX OF MY QUESTION WAS, IF THE COURT EVER WANTED TO DO ANOTHER BOND IN THE FUTURE FOR I DON'T KNOW WHAT, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT? >> BASICALLY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE REVENUES TO PROVIDE TO MEET THE ADDITIONAL BONDS TEST REQUIREMENTS AND PROVIDE WE'LL DO THE WHOLE TEST AND EVERYTHING, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DONE. THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THOSE AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET APPROVAL AGAIN. >> OTHER THINGS THAT IMPACTED RATING AGENCIES PUT OUT THEIR OWN CRITERIA. NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE REVENUES, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS IN PLACE, BUT NORMALLY, YOU JUST LOOK TO THE ADDITIONAL BONDS TEST AND JUST REITERATING WHAT CAMERA SAID, IT IS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY. >> WE DID RUN WE RAN JUST A QUICK SCENARIO OURSELF JUST BECAUSE WE THOUGHT MAYBE AT ONE POINT IN TIME, DID WE WANT TO BUILD TWO PARKING GARAGES AT ONCE? IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A GARAGE AT 16, WILL WE BUILD A GARAGE AT 25. >> WE RAN THE NUMBERS AND WE HAVE CAPACITY CLOSE TO 200, IN TERMS OF COVERAGE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. HERE AGAIN, THIS IS OFF OF, WE'RE NOT SHOWING ANY GROWTH IN THESE NUMBERS. >> AS YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT SHOWING ANY GROWTH IN THOSE NUMBERS. IT'S ALSO NOT SHOWING ANY OF THE MSC REVENUES OR ANYTHING ELSE COMING IN. THIS IS PURELY FY '23. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL REVENUES COMING IN HERE, AND THAT'S PART OF THE ADDITIONAL BONDS TEST REQUIREMENTS. UP TO $200 MILLION BASED ON RIGHT NOW AND NOT SHOW ANYTHING ELSE. >> DAVID, IS YOUR QUESTION RELATED [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S RELATED TO DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE AND BOND COVERAGE RELATED TO CONTRACTS THAT ARE IN PLACE EITHER WITH EXISTING CRUISE SOME OR YOUR MAJOR SOURCES OF REVENUE TO COVER THESE PROCEEDS, COVERS THIS DEBT. THOSE CONTRACTS ARE THEY REQUIRED TO BE CONTIGUOUS OR LONGER THAN A 20-YEAR PERIOD? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I HAVE A CRUISE IF I HAVE A CRUISE BUSINESS, AND I HAVE A 10-YEAR CONTRACT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I DECIDE TO WALK AWAY, IT'S GOING TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT MY REVENUE. WHAT'S THE BOND REQUIREMENT? >> THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED. >> THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED. >> IT'S LOOKING BACK. IF YOUR REVENUES THAT YOU'VE MADE, IT'S NOT LOOKING FORWARD AND IT'S NOT PROJECTING WHETHER CONTRACTS CAN GO AWAY FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. IT'S NOT GOING TO I PUT FORWARD IN THAT REGARD. >> I WOULD SAY WE HAVE TIMED THE BOND ISSUE TO THE INITIAL TERM OF THE MSE CONTRACT. >> I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED THAT, WHEN WE FIRST TALKED. >> I THINK ANOTHER THING ABOUT THAT IS, AND I THINK IT'S MENTIONED IN HERE IS THE FINANCIAL GUARANTEES OF MSE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DAVID. BOTH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. GO AHEAD. >> JUST REVIEWING THE SUMMARY PAGE, PAGE 15 TO PAGE 16. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS RIGHT. AN AVERAGE LIFE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TERMS OF THE DEBT SERVICE ON YOUR SUMMARY. THEN WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OUR DEBT SERVICE TABLE, WHICH LINES IT OUT OVER 20 YEARS. ON ONE PAGE, YOU'VE GOT THE BASICALLY AVERAGE 12.5 YEARS AS YOUR AVERAGE LIFE OF THE DEBT SERVICE, AND THEN THE TABLE IS OVER A SPAN OF 20 YEARS. THE TOTAL DEBT SERVICE OF THE 258,000,704. THOSE TWO ADD UP, BUT I GUESS I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW ONE IS 12 YEARS, THE OTHER ONES 20. >> I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE AMORTIZATION OF THE BONDS IS 20 YEARS. BUT THE AVERAGE LIFE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS, THE AVERAGE LIFE OF THE BONDS. THE ONE YEAR BOND IS NOT GOING TO BE 20 YEARS. IT'S GOING TO BE A ONE YEAR BOND. YOU LOOK AT IT HAS TO BE AN AVERAGE OF THE ENTIRE BOND MATURITY. YOU HAVE 20 YEARS, BUT THE AVERAGE LIFE OF ALL THE BONDS IS 12.593 YEARS. >> YOU'RE BASICALLY TAKING THE THREE. I GUESS THE THREE THAT WOULD BE OR TWO, A AND B. THOSE TWO ARE AVERAGE. >> WELL, YOU'VE GOT THE AS BROKEN OUT THERE AT 12.605 AND THE 2024 BS IS 12.565. IT REALLY IS JUST AN AVERAGE OF THE DEBT SERVICE AND HOW LONG THE DEBT SERVICE IS AVERAGE TO BE OUTSTANDING. >> THAT COULD BE A REFINANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IN MANY TIMES, INTEREST RATES CHANGE, YOU MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO FINANCE THE REST OF IT OR REFINANCE. >> WELL, THERE'S ONLY ONE MATURITY THAT'S OUT 20 YEARS, WHICH IS THE LAST ONE. AS YOU AVERAGE ALL THOSE TOGETHER, YOU GET TO THAT MID NUMBER. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION REALLY. >> IT REALLY IS AS WHAT IT SAYS, IS THE AVERAGE LIFE OF ALL OF THE DEBT SERVICE. THAT WOULD SAY THEN THE ONE YEAR HAS AN AVERAGE LIFE OF 12.5 YEARS, BUT IT'S GONE IN THE FIRST YEAR. THE 20 YEAR IS OUT THERE FOR 20 YEARS, NOT 12.5. [01:35:04] >> IF I'M BEING 12 YEARS ON AN AMORTIZATION, AS COMPARED TO 20, I'M GOING TO SAVE QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST. HOW ARE WE COMPARING THOSE TWO AS THE SAME AMOUNT OF INTEREST EXPENSE. >> IF I COULD [INAUDIBLE] THE BOARD'S INFERENCE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO ONE IS AMT, ONE IS NON AMT. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT. HI. FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS RICHARD ACOSTA WITH RBC CAPITAL MARKETS. I REPRESENT THE PORT IS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR. THOSE ARE ACTUALLY OUR NUMBERS THAT WE RAN, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, THEY'RE SLIGHTLY OFF IS ONE IS AMT AND ONE IS NON AMT. THE INTEREST RATE IS A LITTLE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE FOR AMT BONDS THAN NON AMT BONDS. THAT'S WHY THOSE NUMBERS ARE COMING SLIGHTLY OFF. WHEN WE RUN OUR SCHEDULING, WE COME UP WITH LEVEL DEBT SERVICE, BUT WE HAVE TO USE DIFFERENT INTEREST RATES FOR THE TWO SERIES OF BONDS. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SLIGHTLY OFF. >> ONE THING I THINK THAT MAYBE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCEPT IS WHEN WE SELL $150 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS. WHERE ELSE MY MATH IS CORRECT, WE'RE SELLING $1,500 THOUSAND BONDS ALL WITH DIFFERENT MATURITIES. YOU'VE GOT A MATURITY THAT'S TWO YEARS OR 18 YEARS. AN INVESTOR WHEN HE BUYS IT, HE SAYS, I WANT TO BUY, I WANT TO KEEP MY MONEY TIED UP FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME OR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. IF I WANT TO GO THE WHOLE 28, THAT'S WHAT YOUR NUMBER HERE ALL IN TAXABLE NUMBER IS, BUT IT MEANS THAT IF I'M A BOND BUYER, AS BARRON SAID, I MAY ONLY WANT TO BUY ONE YEAR BOND. OR A TWO YEAR BOND OR AN EIGHT YEAR BOND THAT LASTS THAT LONG. DO YOU FOLLOW [OVERLAPPING] >> I FOLLOW BUT IT'S A MOVING CHARGE IF WE'RE GOING AFTER [OVERLAPPING] >> IT IS A MOVING CHARGE. >> IF WE'RE GOING AFTER A PROJECT FUND THAT'S AT A SET AMOUNT WITH A SET INTEREST RATE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IF AMORTIZATION IS IN OVER 12 YEARS COMPARED TO 20 YEARS, I KNOW THAT'S JUST AN AVERAGE OVER THE BONDS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN IN, BUT THE DEBT SERVICE WOULD GO QUITE A BIT DOWN IN COMPARISON TO A 12 YEAR COMPARED TO 20 YEARS. THAT'S WHY [OVERLAPPING] >> THIS IS ALL 20 YEAR AMORTIZATION. >> IT'S 20. >> WE COULD BASICALLY CORRECT THIS TABLE INSTEAD OF IT BEING 12 YEARS AND HAVING THE SAME DEBT SERVICE AS A 20 YEAR. >> LIFE IS OF COURSE FOR THE INVESTOR. NOT FOR THE ISSUER. PURPOSES, THE TERM WILL BE 20 YEARS, AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY OFF PRINCIPAL OR THE PORTS GOING TO PAY OFF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST EVERY YEAR. THE INVESTOR IS THE ONE WHO'S LOOKING AT WHAT THE AVERAGE LIFE OF THEIR INVESTMENT IS GOING TO BE. THE INVESTOR IS THE ONE WHO'S CHOOSING WHETHER I WANT A ONE-YEAR INVESTMENT OR 12-YEAR INVESTMENT OR 20-YEAR INVESTMENT. THAT AVERAGE LIFE PIECE RELATES TO THOSE WHO ARE VIEWING THIS FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES AND NOT FOR THE CITY OR THE PORTS REPAYMENT PURPOSES. THE 20-YEAR TERM IS A REPAYMENT TERM FOR THE PORT FOR THIS ISSUANCE. THE 12-YEAR AVERAGE LIFE HAS NO IMPACT ON THAT. >> IT'S A PURE CALCULATION AND IT'S IF AN INVESTOR INVESTS EVERY SINGLE MATURITY ALONG THAT 20-YEAR. THE AVERAGE LIFE OF HIS OR HER INVESTMENT WOULD BE 12.5 YEARS. >> QUESTION, I THINK I'M HEARING IS THAT IF YOU HAD LESS YEARS, IT'D BE LESS DEBT OR THAT'S JUST TRUE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD AVERAGE NUMBERS, HOW THE RATING AGENCIES LOOK AT IT. EVEN THE RATING AGENCIES DON'T WANT YOU TO TRY TO PAY TOO MUCH UP FRONT BECAUSE IT STRESSES THE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. SO 20 YEARS IS THE NUMBER THAT AND ALSO 30, 40 YEAR IMPROVEMENT. WE OFTEN LOOK TO TRY TO MATCH THE AVERAGE LIFE OF THE PROJECT YOU'RE FINANCING CLOSER TO THE BOSS. THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT COME UP, BUT I THINK YOUR QUESTION REALLY [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S JUST WHAT CAN BE SUMMARIZED EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. AGAIN, I'M CURIOUS. I'VE BEEN A PART OF SEVERAL SCHOOL BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE GENERAL AND SAME IN NATURE, BUT JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WOULD SEE, ESPECIALLY ROGER WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT OF SAYING, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE DEBT SERVICE, YOU BASICALLY MINIMIZE THAT RISK OF THE DEBT SERVICES PAY OFF EARLIER THAN HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT 20 YEARS OR 12. JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IT. >> THESE ARE PUBLIC BONDS. THERE'S A MARKET FORM. IN EIGHT YEARS, SOMEBODY SAY I'M DONE WITH THIS BOND AND I'LL SELL TO SOMEBODY ELSE. >> WE DID A $53 MILLION BOND FOR A CRUISE TERMINAL 25. HOW LONG DID IT TAKE TO SELL OUT ON THAT? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> EARLIER LAST YEAR, WE PRICED $50 MILLION FOR [01:40:02] THE CARNIVAL AND WE PUT $50 MILLION OUT FOR INVESTORS, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAD FIVE TIMES OVER SUBSCRIPTION, WHICH MEANS WE HAD ABOUT $250 MILLION WORTH OF ORDERS. DURING THAT PROCESS, WE WERE ABLE TO LOWER THE INTEREST RATE AND START SHAKING OFF THOSE INVESTORS THAT WERE PRICE SENSITIVE, AND WE GOT DOWN TO BASICALLY $50 MILLION ORDERS TO MATCH $50 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS, SO WE LOWERED DOWN THAT INTEREST RATE. IF THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA AS FAR AS THE DEMAND THERE IS FOR THE BONDS. >> I FULLY UNDERSTAND. IT GIVES YOU SOME NEGOTIATIONS. >> DEFINITELY. WE'LL GET THOSE RATES DOWN. >> VERY GOOD. GOOD QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COUNCIL? ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS TOPIC HERE. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE SHOOTING FOR AUGUST OF 25 FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE TERMINAL THERE AT CRUISE TERMINAL 16 AND THEY'RE ALREADY SELLING TICKETS, I THINK FOR NOVEMBER OF 25. >> THEY'RE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. >> VERY GOOD. THAT'S MOVING ALONG AND I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE USING HANSEL PHELPS CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS. THEY HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD WITH THE PORT, AND THEY REALLY FOLLOW THE TIME LINES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED. BILL CRUSE TUNNEL 10 TO DO THE RENOVATION OF 25. >> YEAH. >> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ANY ASPECTS OF THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHEILA, THANK YOU. SURE. WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FOR A BREAK BY COUNCILWOMAN ROBLES. TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. IT'S 10:42, WE'LL RECONVENE AROUND 10:47. >> IT IS 10:48. I'M GOING TO RECONVENE OUR WORKSHOP MEETING. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3(E), PLEASE, MA'AM. [3.E. Discussion Of Implementation Of A Traffic Mobility Plan (Porretto/ Brown - 15 Min)] >> ITEM 3(E), DISCUSSION OF IMPLEMENTATION OF A TRAFFIC MOBILITY PLAN. >> THIS IS ITEM THAT COUNCILMAN PORRETTO HAS BROUGHT FORWARD. ALSO COUNCILMAN PORRETTO HAD, I THINK WE RECEIVED IT TUESDAY MAYBE, AN EMAIL WITH OUR TRAFFIC PLANS AND OUR MOBILITY PLANS FROM '12 AND '16. I WENT THROUGH THAT. I HOPE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD TIME TO READ THROUGH THAT. COUNCILMAN PORRETTO. >> THIS KIND OF STEMS FROM THE 2011 PLAN AND THIS WAS THE 2012 PLAN WHICH WAS GIVEN IS THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THAT WAS THE I GUESS, A DENUM FROM THAT. WE ALSO HAD A PARK BOARD PLAN IN 2015 AND THEY'RE REALLY THICK AND VERY EXTENSIVE. LEFT THOSE OUT, JUST TOOK THE THE MEAT OF THE ONES THAT WE NEEDED. THE GOODMAN CORP DID THIS ONE IN 2016 WITH THE ITC, THE INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS IN THE PLAN, THE CONTENTS ARE YOU HAVE TRAFFIC DURING SUMMER. WE HAVE CONGESTION AND IT'S REALLY DURING PEAK MONTHS. ONE OF THE COMMON THEMES THAT I SAW AS WELL WAS THE CITY OR COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE LEADERSHIP ON THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE LEADERSHIP. IT HELPS RESIDENTS BECAUSE NAVIGATING THE CITY IS A DIFFICULT THING. WHEN WE WERE KNOCKING ON DOORS PEOPLE SAID IF YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IT WOULD HELP. MY PROPOSED SOLUTION JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT IS TO ADJUST THE CITY MARSHAL SCHEDULE TO WEIGHT IT HEAVIER TOWARDS THE WEEKENDS AND THEN JUST FOR THE 12 WEEK PERIOD OF SUMMER, AND DURING THOSE PEAK TIMES CHANGE THE PERSPECTIVE OR THE GOAL OF CODE ENFORCEMENT TO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OR URBAN MOBILITY. REALLY, IT'S JUST TOWARDS THAT AND BOTH OF THESE PLANS, IT REALLY TALKS ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS TOO, HOLIDAY, WEEKDAYS. I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT THAT IN A IN A GOOD WAY. IT'S GOING TO NOT JUST POSITIVELY IMPACT THE RESIDENTS, IT'S GOING TO BE MILLIONS OF TOURISTS THAT THIS IMPACTS AS WELL. I THINK STARTING WITH THE NARROW SCOPE IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO IMPLEMENT IT, WHICH WOULD BE THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES OF 61ST AND BROADWAY, ALL THE WAY HEARDS LANE S, SEAWALL, MOVING PEOPLE EFFICIENTLY IN AND OFF THE ISLAND, [01:45:01] I THINK IS A PRIORITY. IT WOULD FACILITATE MOVEMENT. IT WOULD REDUCE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY A BUNCH OF WRECKS ON BROADWAY AND SEAWALL. SOMETIMES YOU GET BEHIND THE KNUCKLEHEAD DURING THE SUMMER, IF YOU'RE LIVING IN GALVESTON YOU KNOW PEOPLE SOMETIMES DRIVE CRAZY, IT'LL HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE WHEN YOU ENTER ON THE ISLAND TO PROMOTE SOME SAFETY. IT ALLEVIATES THE BURDENS ON THE EMS, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IT COULD ENHANCE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES. IF THERE'S EVER SOMEONE THAT DECIDES TO RUN FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WE HAVE A POLICE CHASE, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHUT OFF THE POINT OF EXIT THAT SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE. I DON'T KNOW WHY POLICE CHASES IN GALVESTON. IT'S A ONE WAY ROAD AND IT HAPPENS THAT WAY. IT'S PART OF THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE MARSHALS. IT'S DEDICATED TO ENHANCING THE LIVES OF GALVESTONIANS. THE DEPUTIES ARE TCOLE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GROWING THE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THEY THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER. IT'S ABOUT RESOURCE ALLOCATION. SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THE SUMMER MONTHS TO WAIT THE STAFFING TOWARDS THAT, I KNOW FUTURE WORKSHOPS IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT STAFFING, CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH STRS. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO START SHIFTING OUR THOUGHT BECAUSE WE'RE A RESORT TOWN, AND WHEN YOU START STAFFING LIKE WE ARE RESORT TOWN. THEN AFTER THE SUMMER, WE CAN SHIFT BACK TOWARDS MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. >> IF IT'S A RAINY DAY OR WHATEVER ELSE, THEY CAN PICK UP CODE ENFORCEMENT DUTIES SO THEY DON'T GO TO WASTE. >> THE BEST PART ABOUT PLANS IS THEIR ADAPTABILITY. ONE OF THE FRUSTRATING THINGS ABOUT SOME OF THEM IT'S PAPER AND IT'S IT'S NOT SO ADAPTIVE AND IT WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR MISSION CREEP. I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. THROUGH ALL THESE PLANS, GOODMAN CORPORATION, I THINK THEY FINISHED A PLAN IN 2018, AND IT CAME UP WITH THE RUBBER WHEEL TROLLEYS AND ISLAND TRANSIT AND PARKING, BUT WE REALLY LEFT OUT THAT REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT WE SAW. WE SEE IT EVERY YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE VISITORS, EIGHT MILLION ACCORDING TO THE PARK BOARD AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CRUISE TERMINAL. >> 8.9. >> YEAH, 8.9. THAT'S THE MOST RECENT ONE. LOOKING AT IT, WE HAVE TO BE ADAPTIVE AND I THINK THE MARSHALS FIT THE BILL BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CIVIL SERVICE. THEY'RE NOT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, AND THEY CAN MOVE AT WILL, OF COURSE THE CITY MANAGER BUT I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE BRIAN A DIRECTIVE TO KIND OF START THAT. I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT IMPLEMENTED BY THIS WEEKEND, BUT I DOUBT IT. >> WE WILL HAVE MARSHALS WORKING THIS WEEKEND, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE, BUT TO HAVE IT STAFFED THE WAY YOU WANT MAY TAKE ANOTHER WEEK OR SO. >> YEAH, I KNOW FOR SCHEDULING AND PURPOSES AND I I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST THINK THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE A FORCED MULTIPLIER OVER SPECIAL EVENTS, UNSANCTIONED EVENTS ON THE SEAWALL. IF IT IS A LULL TIME AND THEY FIND OKAY. WELL, I'M SAYING MAYBE 2:00-10:00 OR PEAK TIMES. SAY THEY FIND OUT THAT OKAY, IT'S ONLY 2:00-6:00 OR 2:00-7:00, THEN WE CAN I THINK DIRECT THEM MAYBE TO DO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT ON THE SEAWALL. >> WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADAPTATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SET UP FOR THAT NOW. TO DO TRAFFIC STOPS, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT CAMERAS AND ALL THAT STUFF. RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE BODY CAMS, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE VEHICLE CAMS, BUT WE CAN WORK ON THAT. THIS IS NOTHING INSURMOUNTABLE. >> I KNOW MARIE HAD A QUESTION, BUT COUNCILMAN PORRETTO ALEX, WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS ON THESE BUSY WEEKEND, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMERTIME AND EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE USE OUR MARSHALS AND MOVE THEM FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT INTO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. >> NOT SO MUCH TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. >> TRAFFIC CONTROL. >> URBAN MOBILITY AND TRAFFIC CONTROL. >> CRAIG, I THINK THIS WILL DO TAIL NICELY INTO THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING IN JUNE WITH REALLOCATING SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF TO ASSIST WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ISSUES. >> YEAH, THAT WOULD. >> I DON'T WANT TO NEGLECT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A MAJOR ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. >> WE CAN BEGIN THAT THOUGH QUICKLY, CAN'T WE IF COUNCIL AGREES? LET ME TALK TO BUTCH AND SEE. ALSO I WANT TO GET WITH THE POLICE CHIEF TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT STEPPING ON ANY TOES. >> MARIE. >> THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGE MADE TO THE 61ST STREET IN BROADWAY LIGHT THAT SEEMS TO BE CAUSING MORE OF AN ISSUE. I ACTUALLY NOW FIND MYSELF TAKING PICTURES IN THE SEQUENCING AND IT'S NORTH AND SOUTH TRAFFIC. [01:50:05] THERE'S DOWN TWO RED ARROWS THAT COME ON THAT KEEP PEOPLE ON THE SECONDARY LIGHT, NOT THE FIRST LIGHT. I JUST WOULD LIKE, I KNOW I HAVE [OVERLAPPING]. >> [INAUDIBLE] WITH US AND MADE SOME CHANGES THERE BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING A HIGH NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS BECAUSE WHEN THEY SAW THE SECOND GREEN ARROW, THERE WERE CARS THAT JUST SAW GREEN AND WERE HITTING THE CARS GOING NORTH, SO THEY STOPPED AND DID THE TWO REDS. THAT HAS GREATLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF MAJOR ACCIDENTS AT 61ST, BUT IT ALSO NOW HAS BACKED UP. >> YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE NOBODY CAN MOVE. THE SECONDARY SET OF LIGHTS ARE GREEN, BUT EVERYONE ELSE HAS A RED LIGHT. >> I'LL GET TRINA TO LOOK AT IT. >> THE TRAFFIC ON 61ST STREET IS BACK IN ALL THE WAY UP TO [INAUDIBLE]. OR IF YOU'RE COMING FROM TARGET, IT'S LIKE [OVERLAPPING]. >> IT BACKS UP REALLY BAD. >> IT BACKS UP BAD. >> HOME DEPOT BACKS YOU UP. >> I HAVE PICTURES OF IT FROM BOTH SIDES. THERE'S A SEGMENT WHERE [OVERLAPPING]. >> I WAS SHARING WITH SOMEBODY. I THINK MAYBE IT WAS EVEN DAVID YESTERDAY WHEN HE CAME TO MEET ON AGENDA ITEMS. WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION WITH MOST OF OUR INTERSECTIONS IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON. DOWNTOWN HOUSTON IS A SERIES OF ONE WAY STREETS. THEY CAN TURN ALL LIGHTS GREEN AND MOVE EVERYBODY VERY EFFICIENTLY WITH CONTINUOUS TURNS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IF WE DO THAT TOO MUCH, AS YOU FOUND OUT WITH HOME DEPOT AND TARGET AND EVEN LIKE 45TH, 53RD, WE TRAP OUR RESIDENTS. WE TRY TO BALANCE THAT AS BEST WE CAN ESPECIALLY MORNINGS AND EVENINGS. I KNOW IF I HAVE A MEETING ON THE MAINLAND, I DON'T EVEN GO DOWN 53RD ANYMORE BECAUSE I GET BACKED UP ON 53RD BECAUSE WE HAVE PRIMARY TRAFFIC GOING EAST WEST ON BROADWAY, AND WE HAVE VERY SHORT TERM CYCLES. BUT WE DO THAT TO TRY TO FACILITATE BECAUSE IF NOT WE GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT PEOPLE, THEY CAN'T GET TO WORK. >> I WOULD NEVER SUPPORT AND I WOULD ADAMANTLY, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, ANYTHING THAT TAKES AWAY FROM SHORT TERM POLICING BECAUSE WE'RE STILL HAVING MAJOR ISSUES. >> THAT'LL BE ON OUR JUNE AGENDA. >> NO. I AGREE. I THINK YOUR COMMENTS ARE TIMELY AND IT'LL DETAIL NICELY WITH THAT. AGAIN, I WISH I COULD ACT AS FAST AS I THINK [OVERLAPPING]. >> DAVID. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PORRETTO AND I VISITED ABOUT THIS AND IT'S GOING TO DOVETAIL IN SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN JUNE AS WELL. THIS IS TRULY JUST AN OPERATIONAL CHANGE AND IT'S JUST A REFOCUSING OF THE ALLOCATION OF ASSETS RELATED TO MOVING FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT TO URBAN MOBILITY OR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. >> WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE 100% SIGHT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THE GALVESTON WAY IS WAIT TILL NOBODY'S WORKING AND THEN DO ALL YOUR OWN PROJECT. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S TRUE. YES, I UNDERSTAND IT BUT AS A GOOD FIRST STEP, I THINK THIS IS GOOD TO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE THAT THE MARSHALS CAN PROVIDE IN PROVIDING PEAK TIME RESPONSES TO THESE TYPES OF ISSUES. >> WE ALREADY HAVE A WHOLE IN THAT SHORT TERM RUN ON CROWDED WEEKEND. >> I AGREE. >> WHERE THERE IS NO COVER. >> THE BIGGEST THING TOO IS THAT WE WERE MINIMALLY STAFFED ON WEEKENDS AND IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH A SHORT TERM RENTAL ON THE WEST END AND THE MARSHALS TIED UP ON THE EAST END SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO YOU IN JUNE IS A SPACING OF MARSHALS AND ADDITIONAL MARSHALS, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRAVERSE FROM 21ST AND SEAWALL DOWN TO [INAUDIBLE] BEACH IF THERE'S AN ISSUE. >> OR PEOPLE JUST GET TOLD ON THE WEST END [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY BUT THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. >> WE HAVE COUNCILMAN BROWN AND THEN PORRETTO. >> JUST TO CLARIFY FOR ME IN THE COORDINATION BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY MARSHAL DOES AND WHAT THE POLICE DO. CITY MARSHAL CAN HE WRITE TRAFFIC TICKETS? >> YES. THEY'RE CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. BUT THE GOAL HERE WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY WRITING TICKETS. IT'S TO KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING AND HAVING A LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE. >> THEY DON'T DO TRAFFIC STUFF. >> NO, THEY DO NOT. WE HAVE THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE DON'T. UNLESS IT'S JUST AN EGREGIOUS SOMETHING TERRIBLE, WE DON'T DO THAT. >> WELL, PART OF THE CONCEPT, I THINK IT SHOULD INCLUDE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MAKE SURE IF EVERYBODY'S FOLLOWING THE TRAFFIC LAWS, AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. >> LIKE U TURNS ON THE SEAWALL. >> RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] >>> I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST IN THAT AREA WHERE THEY'RE PAINTING. [LAUGHTER] >> ACTUALLY, THOSE HAVE BECOME POINTS WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY STOP TO MAKE THEIR U TURN IS RIGHT ON THE NO U TURN SIGN. >> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. >> COUNCILMAN PORRETTO. >> JANELLE, CAN YOU PULL UP THE INTERSECTION OF THE SEAWALL. [NOISE] I THINK WE ALL GOT THE EMAIL FROM MS. BACA ABOUT [01:55:05] THE LEGISLATIVE ITEMS AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOU'S TIME TALKING TO ME ABOUT THIS MOBILITY PLAN. A LOT OF THE 61ST STREET IS GETTING ADDRESSED IS PART OF THE TXDOT PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO ROLL OUT IN '26, THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO CONTIGUOUS TURN LANES ON 61ST OFF THE FREEWAY THAT ARE NEVER STOPPED SO THE LIGHT PROBLEM. AT SOME POINT IN OUR LIFE WHEN TXDOT GETS TO IT WILL GET RESOLVED. >> BUT IT WILL ALWAYS BOTTLE NECK ON TURNING RIGHT. >> WELL, THEY'RE WIDENING THERE. >> NO, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. >> I KNOW. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC GOING TO ONE SINGLE LANE. >> I'M HOPING WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO PUT TWO CONTIGUOUS GOING WEST TOO, BUT WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON THAT. >> BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE TIME, IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, MAYBE THREE YEARS, AND IT WAS THE 89 STREET LIGHT WAS ILL TIMED AND WE HAD TRAFFIC BACKED UP. >> 81ST NOT 80. >> 89TH IN THAT AREA. >> 81ST, AND CARS WERE BACKED UP TO BY VESTA ALL BECAUSE 81ST. >> THE OTHER THING TOO IS WE NOW WORK OUR TRAFFIC CREWS. WE HAVE CREWS ON SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. I DON'T KNOW IN WHAT WORLD ANYBODY THOUGHT WE WERE ON A SEVEN DAY WEEK OPERATION BUT WE ARE NOW. WE HAVE TRAFFIC CREWS THAT CAN RESPOND TO ANY SIGNAL OUTAGE OR ANYTHING ASAP. >> ALEX, YOU WANTED TO POINT SOMETHING. >> I'M GOING TO POINT SOMETHING OUT IN A SECOND, BUT WE HAD THAT E MAIL FROM MS. BACA OVER SOME OF THE GRANT ITEMS, LEGISLATIVE THINGS THAT WERE DONE. ONE OF THE THINGS AND COUNCILMAN BROWN POINTED THIS OUT AS WELL, WAS THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SMART GRANT PROGRAM. I'D LIKE TO APPLY FOR THOSE BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT IN SOME OF THESE THOROUGHFARE PLANS, ITS, INFORMATION, WHAT IS IT? >> INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION. >> IT'S A GOOD INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. >> IF WE CAN GET SOME GRANTS FOR THAT, I THINK IT ALLEVIATE THE CITY'S BUDGET, AND WE CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS, TURN ONE ON, TURN ONE OFF, THAT DEAL. CAN WE PUT THE SATELLITE VIEW ON, PLEASE. BEFORE I GET UP THERE AND SHOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT TO COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS. IT REALLY, TRAFFIC IS AN INCONVENIENCE FOR PEOPLE. SOMETIMES IT REALLY AFFECTS THE RESIDENTS WAY OF LIFE WHERE SOMETIMES THE WORKING SINGLE MOM'S GOT TO WORK AT WALMART, GET ACROSS THE ISLAND, PICK UP HER KIDS AND MAKE IT BACK BEFORE LUNCH OR BEFORE HER SECOND SHIFT. THAT'S REALLY WHERE THIS CAME OUT OF. PEOPLE THAT TAKE CABS OR TRANSPORTATION, IT ALLEVIATES SOME OF THE COST BURDEN THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE AND THE TIME BURDEN. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN FOR ME JUST A LITTLE BIT. I'M NOT SURE HOW GOOD WE CAN GET, BUT THAT TRAFFIC CONGESTION GETTING ON THE 45, IT'S THE TWO LANE TURN AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THE WHOLE WAY DOWN AND THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE, PROBABLY DONE IT OURSELVES, YOU JOCKEY TO GET IN SO YOU CAN GET ON FROM THE FEEDER INTO THE HIGHWAY. WHAT YOU WOULD DO IN THAT INSTANCE IS CONE IT OFF OR TRY TO NARROW EVERYBODY INTO A SINGLE LANE WELL BEFORE YOU GET TO THE FEEDER ROAD ON THE 45 AND THAT WAY, IT'S A CONTINUOUS. YOU MIGHT JOCK YOU BEFORE, BUT YOU'RE GETTING PEOPLE ONTO THE HIGHWAY FASTER. THERE'S SMALL THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I HAVE FAITH IN BRIAN AND THE MARSHALS DEPARTMENT TO DO THESE THINGS. >> THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE TXDOT. I CAN'T JUST GO START ARBITRARILY CLOSING LANES ON THE FEEDER ROADS. TXDOT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE'RE GETTING THE FLYOVER. BECAUSE THEY HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TWO CONTIGUOUS ENTRY LANES ONTO THE FREEWAY, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH REAL ESTATE TO DO THAT AND THERE'S NOT REAL ESTATE IN THE FEEDER ROAD, AND THEN THERE WAS PUSHBACK FROM THE BUSINESSES ALONG THERE THAT WE WERE GOING TO PRECLUDE SOME USE OF THEIR ACCESS. TXDOT IS AWARE OF THAT PROBLEM, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. I KNOW DURING EVENTS, WHAT WE DO IS, UNDER THE AUSPICES OF EMERGENCIES, WE ACTUALLY CLOSE THAT ENTRY RAMP IN FRONT OF HOME DEPOT AND WE CLOSE THE INTERSECTION AT 71ST STREET, RUN EVERYBODY WEST TO STRETCH EVERYBODY OUT, GIVE THEM MORE TIME TO ZIP OR MERGE, AND THEN GO OUT AND WE DO THAT ON SPECIAL EVENTS NOW. >> ALONG THOSE LINES, WHEN DOES THE CONSTRUCTION START ON THE FLYOVER THERE, BRIAN? >> I THINK THE LET DATE NOW IS INTO '25 OR EARLY '26. I THOUGHT IT WAS INTO '25 [INAUDIBLE]. IT'S A MOVING TARGET BUT BASED ON HOW THEY'RE DOING UP THE ROAD. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR SO MANY REASONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE AND THAT THE PUBLIC GIVES US INPUT. [02:00:04] WE CAN'T BE AFRAID TO TRY SOMETHING. SOMETIMES I FEEL MAYBE FEAR OF TRYING SOMETHING AND MESSING UP, BUT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO GIVE INPUT BACK TO US SO THAT WE KNOW EITHER TO BE THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I THINK THIS AFFECTS ALL DISTRICTS SO IF WE HAVE A BACKUP ON 53RD, IF WE HAVE A BACKUP SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE US INPUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE AND BE ADAPTIVE AND CHANGE THE MANAGEMENT STRATEGY THAT WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. I DON'T THINK THIS WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE STR THING. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO ME TOO. I THINK WE'RE RESORT TOWN. YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE OCCUPANCY TOWARDS THE WEEKENDS AND IF WE CAN ALLOCATE SOME. >> WE HAVE HALF OF ALL. WE HAVE LOT MORE. >> EXACTLY. WE CAN KEEP SOME MARSHALS STATIONED OVER THAT WAY FOR TRAFFIC NEEDS THERE AS WELL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH AND WITH JAMAICA BEACH AS WELL. I THINK ONCE WE GET A GRIP ON THE SMALL THINGS AND WE CAN TAKE CHUNKS OUT AND WE CAN START GOING ON DISTRICTS, BUT I DO THINK DISTRICT 6 DOES NEED SOME HELP OUT THERE WITH ENFORCEMENT. >> WELL, IN PART, IF YOU READ THESE MOBILITY PLANS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REPEATED IN ALL OF THEM IS THAT WE NEEDED A WEST END CROSSING AND THAT HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN LAYSIDE. >> I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW THAT REALIZE THAT WAS PROBABLY A MISTAKE. >> WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF THE MARSHALS ON THE WEEKENDS? >> RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING 8:00-5:00, BUT WE STAGGER AS NEEDED FOR EVENTS, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. WE [INAUDIBLE] PICK THINGS UP IN THE EVENINGS, BUT WE'LL WORK WITH WHATEVER. WE ONLY HAVE SEVEN, SO WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN JUNE. >> YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY CORRECTED THIS PART, BUT ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS. WHEN THE MARSHALS ARE PATROL ON SEAWALL AND THEY COME ACROSS A CAR THAT NEED THE PARKING TICKET, THEY'LL PARK IN THE RIGHT LANE ON OUR BUSIEST WEEKENDS. >> WELL, THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THE PAY BY LETTER NOW. THEY SHOULDN'T BE STOPPING TO DO ANYTHING. YOU'RE GOING TO GET A TICKET BY NOW. >> YOU'LL SEE THEM NOW. >> WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T 100 PERCENT STOOD THAT. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE SOFTWARE COMPANY, BUT HOPEFULLY, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT UP FOR THE SUMMER SO THE MARSHAL WON'T HAVE TO STOP ANYMORE. THOSE AREN'T LAW ENFORCEMENT MARSHALS. THOSE ARE CIVILIANS. >> WELL, I GUESS, I WOULD GO BACK TO WHERE WE HAD THOSE FUNNY LITTLE THREE WHEEL. >> THEY NEVER WROTE TICKETS. THEY COULDN'T WRITE TICKETS. >> WELL, I'M SAYING IF WE PUT A MARSHAL IN A CAR AND HE'S GOING TO STOP IN THE RIGHT-HAND LANE AND IT'S GOING TO BOTTLE NECK DOWN TO ONE LANE ON THE SEAWALL, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO RIGHT AWAY. >> I THINK WE FIXED IT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO STOP ANYMORE. >> HOW SOON DO YOU THINK THAT'LL BE IMPLEMENTED? >> WE'LL PULL IN. IF THERE'S A PLACE TO PULL IN [INAUDIBLE] >> HOW FAR ARE WE ON [INAUDIBLE]? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> THAT'S A SOFTWARE ISSUE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT. WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING COORDINATED. >> [INAUDIBLE] BY THE WAY. >> YEAH. OUR PLAN IS NOT STOP UP THERE. >> MR. MAXWELL, I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE RELATED TO MAILING YOUR CITATIONS IN. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CLEARLY COMMUNICATED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. >> WE'RE GOING TO ADD SIGNAGE TO IT. >> WE DOUBLE SIZE THAT AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT OUR VISITORS ARE NOT UNDULY JUST CAUGHT OFF GUARD. >> NO. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TOO MUCH SIGNAGE NOW. >> PLEASE DON'T ADD MORE SIGNS. >> I WASN'T ASKING. >> WELL, THAT'S EVERYBODY'S ANSWER TO EVERYTHING, IS ADD A SIGN. IF THESE PEOPLE WERE READING SIGNS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH, BUT ANYWAY. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> BOB, YOU HAD A QUESTION. >> YEAH. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, REALLY, DOVETAILS AND SHOULD BE PART OF A LARGER SCALE MOBILITY PLAN FOR THE ISLAND. I WAS WONDERING ABOUT WHAT WE REALLY HAVE AND WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO. BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S NOTICED A LOT OF ACCIDENTS AROUND TOWN AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO TOWN THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR ROADWAYS AND OUR TRAFFIC, AND THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AROUND FOR THEIR DESTINATION AND MAYBE NOT HOW WELL THEY'RE DRIVING. WE HAVE AN AMAZING ARRAY OF THINGS WITH MOTORS ON THEM, LIKE A BICYCLE, SKATEBOARD, SCOOTERS, [INAUDIBLE]. WE HAVE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE. WE HAVE THE BICYCLES AND THE PEDESTRIANS AND ALL OF THESE OTHER MOTORIZED CONVEYANCES SHARING A ROADWAY THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR NOTHING BUT CARS, NOT FOR ANY OF THOSE OTHER THINGS. >> IT WASN'T DESIGNED FOR EVEN EXTRA CARS. >> [INAUDIBLE] DESIGN FOR CARRIAGE. >> YEAH. I'M TALKING ABOUT ROADS. >> AND GOLF CARTS, BUT MY POINT IS, THERE'S A LOT ON HOW WE MANAGE THE MOBILITY AROUND GALVESTON, AND I THINK THE BICYCLE LANES ARE REALLY GOOD START. IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO SEE A BICYCLE MOBILITY PLAN FOR THE LANES. >> WE HAVE THAT IN OUR 2016, 2018 PLAN. [02:05:03] IT OUTLINES A BIKE PATH ROUTE I GUESS. THE ISSUE WE HAVE IN GALVESTON IS THE GRID LAYOUT. THE NORTH, SOUTH STREETS, WE HAVE PLENTY OF REAL ESTATE TO DO BIKE LANES. EAST, WEST, WE HAVE A REAL HARD TIME WITH BECAUSE THE STREETS ARE NARROWER EAST, WEST THAN THEY ARE NORTH, SOUTH. WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE PARKING TO PUT BIKE LANES IN AND WE DON'T LIKE DOING THAT BECAUSE MOST OF THAT PARKING IS RESIDENTIAL AND WE DON'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE THEY CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE SO PEOPLE CAN RIDE BIKES. >> I GUESS THE OTHER PART OF THAT QUESTION IS EXACTLY WHAT DO WE HAVE? >> LET ME GET THAT FOR YOU. NOW, I KNOW ALEX LOOKED AT IT, BUT WE HAVE I THINK IT WAS THE 2017 AND WE HAD A COMMITTEE THAT WENT THROUGH ALL THAT. WE HAVE A BIKE PATH PLAN AND EVERYTHING. >> I THINK THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 18. >> WELL, WHAT I WAS REALLY GETTING AROUND TO IS I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT AND THAT PROBABLY IS A COMPONENT OF A LARGER VISION FOR MOBILITY. IN THIS DOCUMENT HERE, THE CITY OF GALVESTON FOR THEIR PLAN, IT TALKS ABOUT THE CITY'S FIVE-YEAR MOBILITY PLAN AND THAT THE CITY WILL EVALUATE THE PROJECTS ANNUALLY AND MAKE CHANGES. I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT. >> WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE 23 RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'VE TICKED OFF PROBABLY 75 PERCENT OF THEM. WE REFER TO THIS AS WE MOVE THROUGH OUR PROJECTS. OF COURSE, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED EVEN SINCE THIS WAS DONE IN 2012, AND OF COURSE, A LOT OF IT IS TXDOT. THEN ONE OF IT'S NOT EVEN IN GALVESTON, IT'S IN BRAZORIA COUNTY. LIKE THE RAISING OF THE BLUE WATER HIGHWAY, I'D GO FOR IT, BUT IT'S NOT OURS, BUT WE'VE MARCHED THROUGH A LOT OF THIS AND WE DID SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE STREETS. WE DID 43RD, AND WE DID A COUPLE OF OTHER STREETS THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY LISTED ON HERE AS NORTH SOUTH IMPROVEMENTS, AND WE DID THAT IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE. >> I GUESS WHAT I WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT WAS THE CITY'S FIVE-YEAR MOBILITY PLAN THAT IT REFERS TO. IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S UPDATED ANNUALLY? >> NO. WE HAVEN'T DONE IT. TYPICALLY, WE DID THIS ONE AND WE WOULD DO THE OTHER HALF OF IT AS PART OF THE COMP PLAN. TIM'S IN HERE NOW, AND THAT'LL BE PART OF IT. >> WHAT DATA DO WE HAVE THAT WOULD DRIVE THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND THESE THINGS? >> IT WOULD PROBABLY BE PART OF THE CONSULTANTS' WORK TO DO THE SURVEYS AND THE TRAFFIC SURVEYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE HAVE ANECDOTAL TRAFFIC DATA THAT WE GET OFF OUR ENTRY AND EXITS, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE GOOD TRAFFIC DATA AT ALL INTERSECTIONS. >> IF YOU WANT TO GET IT FROM THE PARK BOARD. >> WELL, THAT'S TRUE. THAT WAS PART OF THE INVESTMENT WE MADE WITH THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WAS CELL PHONE TRACKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WOULDN'T SAY 100% ACCURATE FOR TRAFFIC DATA. >> IN 2023, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE PAPER ABOUT THE 10 MOST DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS, AND A LOT OF THEM WERE ALONG AVENUE [INAUDIBLE], THE EAST WEST, BUT IN THAT SAME ARTICLE, IT MENTIONED A $350,000 FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION GRANT TO HIRE A CONSULTANT, I GUESS, TO DO A MOBILITY PLAN. >> WE CHASED THAT GRANT. I'M NOT SURE WE EVER GOT IT. >> I DON'T THINK WE GOT IT. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> COME FORWARD. >> ROBERT WINNICKI, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE ENGINEERING. THAT'S THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT THAT CAME OUT. >> THAT'S THE SAFE STREETS? >> YES, IT IS. IT'S NOT FOR MOBILITY. IT'S MORE OF AN OVERALL SAFETY FOR THE ISLAND TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CRASHES WE'RE HAVING AND WHAT IMPLEMENTS WE CAN DO SYSTEM WIDE TO HELP REDUCE THOSE TYPES OF CRASHES. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD DO, BEING THE MEMBER THAT SITS ON THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY COMMITTEE, IS THERE'S ALWAYS CITIES THAT DON'T GET THEIR PROJECTS READY. THE MORE PROJECTS WE COULD HAVE SITTING ON THE SHELF, WE COULD JUST SUBMIT THEM. >> WE'VE BEEN WORKING RIGHT NOW TO GET THINGS ON THE TIP AND THE LONG-TERM PLAN TO MAKE SURE PROJECTS ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE. >> YOU DO A GOOD JOB. >> WHERE ARE WE ON THAT SAFE STREETS GRANT? >> THE SAFE STREETS GRANT, WE ARE BASICALLY, GETTING FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS AS TO WHAT CONDITIONS THEY SEE AND TRYING TO GET IMPLEMENTS DEVELOPED THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP REDUCE THOSE TYPES OF CRASHES. >> DOES THAT GRANT INCLUDE ACQUIRING A MORE CURRENT DATA THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON TRACK? >> IT DOES NOT INCLUDE NEW TRAFFIC COUNTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE USING TXDOT'S DATA AND [INAUDIBLE] DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US TO USE AS A BASIS AND THEN WE'RE USING MORE ANECDOTAL INFORMATION PLUS RECENT CRASH REPORTS THAT ARE THROUGH THE STATE [INAUDIBLE] SYSTEM AND USING ALL THAT INFORMATION TO GO AHEAD AND COMPILE THAT. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT WHEN THAT STUDY WOULD BE COMPLETED? >> WE'RE SHOOTING TO HAVE A DRAFT OF THAT BY DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, AND THEN IT'LL BE OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A 4-6 MONTH PERIOD AND THEN IT'LL BE FINALIZED IN AUGUST OF NEXT YEAR. >> SOMETHING LIKE THAT STUDY COULD HELP INFORM THE COMP PLAN. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THE GOAL IS TO DOVETAIL ALL THESE TOGETHER. >> EXACTLY. >> I'M SORRY. ONE LAST THING. >> DO WE HAVE A MOBILITY PLAN THAT MAY BE OUT OF DATE BY NOW? [02:10:05] THIS IS REALLY OUT OF DATE IT'S GOT SOME GREAT POINTS IN IT. >> OUR GOAL HAS BEEN TO TRY TO ACHIEVE WHAT WAS IN THIS PLAN BEFORE WE START A NEW PLAN, AND WE'RE ALMOST THERE. WE'VE TRIED REALLY HARD TO DO THAT. OF COURSE, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY CHANGES SINCE THIS ONE IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO DO ANOTHER ONE AS WELL. BUT THESE THINGS TAKE MONEY AND STAFF TIME THAT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY HAD. >> ONE OF THE REASON. >> GO AHEAD. >> I'M SORRY. >> BOB, HAVE YOU FINISHED. >> I'M GOOD THANKS. >> WE HAVE ALEX AND SHARON THEN MARIE. I GUESS TIM TIETJENS IS THE GUY WHO'S LOOKING AT THE STUFF? OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE IS GOING BACK AND AND WE CAN LIKE EXIT OUT SOME OF THESE THINGS AND SAY, OKAY, THIS WAS DONE, AND WE CAN DELETE A LOT AND SAY THIS WAS COMPLETED, THIS WAS COMPLETED, THIS WAS COMPLETED. I THINK BUILDING OFF OF IT, AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE COMP PLAN. IF I'M CORRECT, THIS IS THE ADDENUM THAT WAS TAKEN OUT THAT IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE COMP PLAN, BUT UNDERNEATH IT. >> PRODUCT OF IT. IT'S A PRODUCT OF IT. I'D LIKE TO START JUST PUTTING IN THERE UPDATED AS WE GO AND BRING IT FORTH AND I THINK MAYBE MAKE IT AN ACTION ITEM WHERE WE CAN LOOK THROUGH AND APPROVE IT AND SAY, THESE ARE SOME GOOD CHANGES. THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING THAT WAY IT'S AN ACTIVE PLAN. YOU CAN MAKE THE JOKE THAT WE HAVE LAND SUBSIDENCE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PLANS AT CITY HALL. BUT LET'S START TAKING I MEAN, THIS IS A GOOD PLAN, THE 2011 PLAN WAS A GOOD PLAN, BUT LET'S START MAKE IT ALIVE. LET'S BRING IT LIVE AND PUT IT ACTIVE AND SAY, WE'RE DOING THIS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW SO PUBLIC INFORMED, >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IS PROVIDING FEEDBACK ON THESE ISSUES, HOW SUCCESSFUL WERE THEY, WHAT DID THEY ACCOMPLISH, WHAT HAVE WE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHY AND ALL THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, BRIAN, AS WHEN YOU WERE GOING DOWN THE LIST OF THESE PROJECTS, CHECKING THEM OFF WHAT HAD BEEN DONE. I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT WHENEVER YOU, IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU. >> HAPPY TO, WE CAN DO THAT REALLY QUICKLY ON THE 23 RECOMMENDATIONS IS PRETTY QUICK. >> THAT'S REALLY MY THING LET'S BRING THESE PLANS ALIVE AND THROUGH LEADERSHIP, WE CAN, IT COULD BE AN ACTION ITEM, SOMETHING THAT WE JUST APPROVE CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT. >> I AGREE. >> SHARON. >> I HAD A QUESTION IF ROB CAN COME BACK. REGARDING THE SURVEY, WHAT SURVEY WAS DONE? WHAT WERE YOU REFERRING TO WHEN YOU SAID THERE WAS A SURVEY AND HOW DID RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO IT? >> BASICALLY AT THE SINGLE DAMIAR FESTIVAL WE HAD A BOOTH OUT THERE TO GO AHEAD AND ASK PARTICIPANTS WHAT THEY FELT WAS GOOD AND BAD. >> THAT WAS OUR FIRST FOUR. >> THAT WAS OUR VERY FIRST ATTEMPT AT THAT, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THESE COMING UP AS WE GO FORWARD AND I'LL GET SOME MORE INFORMATION OUT ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY. THROUGH EVENTS? >> WE CAN DO THAT. I'LL GET WITH MARISSA TO GET SOME INFORMATION POSTED SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. >> OKAY. >> YES, WE DO IT THROUGH EVENTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE LARGE GATHERINGS, BUT WE ALSO ARE GOING TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL EVENTS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. THEY'RE ALL REQUIRED AS PART OF THE GROUND. >> THANK YOU. >> LET'S WIND OUR THOUGHTS UP. RAY, YOU'RE THROUGH, DAVID, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING. >> LET'S STRIKE HIM VERY GOOD. IT'S A VERY HEALTHY DISCUSSION FOR US TO BE HAVING. AT SOME POINT, GUYS, WE'RE A VERY OLD CITY WE HAVE A HISTORIC GRID SYSTEM. OUR STREETS WERE DESIGNED WHEN PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE CARS. THEY WERE ALSO DESIGNED TO BE RETENTION BASIS FOR DRAINAGE. I'VE I'VE JOKED ABOUT THAT, I SAYS A LOT OF THE CARS DON'T LIKE FLOODED STREETS, BUT THE ELECTRIC CARS REALLY DON'T LIKE THEM AND AS WE EVOLVE AND WE DO THINGS, WE'RE ADAPTING A VERY OLD CITY TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE A WHOLE LOT OF CARS. WE WENT FROM NOBODY HAVING CARS TO PEOPLE HAVING ONE CARS TO FAMILY HAVING TWO, BOTH GOT KIDS AT ANY GIVEN TIME IN MY HOUSE, I'VE GOT FIVE CARS AT MY HOUSE BECAUSE OF KIDS ARE HOME AND THEN YOU ADD A SHORT TERM RENTAL TO THE MIX WHERE YOU'VE GOT 10 PEOPLE BUMPING UP AND THEY'VE GOT FIVE CARS AND THEN YOU ADD HOW MANY CREWS PASSENGERS TO THE MIX? >> [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW. >> HOW MANY DAY TRIPPERS TO THE MIX TO THE BEACH PLUS EVERYBODY STAYING IN OUR HOTELS AND WE'VE GROWN HOW MANY HOTEL ROOMS ON THE ISLAND? YOU'VE OUTGROWN YOUR GRID SYSTEM IS WHAT YOU'VE DONE. WE CAN TRY TO TRICK IT AND FOOL IT AS BEST WE CAN, AND THAT'S WHAT THESE PLANS REALLY TRY TO DO. BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO HIT SATURATION AND YOU'VE DONE THAT IN HOUSTON, YOU'VE DONE THAT IN OTHER AREAS. THAT'S WHAT CREATES RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, [02:15:01] THAT'S WHAT CREATES ALL THOSE ISSUES AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IN HOUSTON, THEY JUST KEEP BUILDING MORE AND MORE RINGS. OUR RINGS, YOU GET REALLY WET IN A HURRY, SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE POLICY ISSUES THAT FUTURE COUNCILS AND THIS COUNCIL ARE GOING TO BE FACED WITH AS TO HOW YOU DEAL WITH 8.9 MILLION VISITORS, A GROWING REGULAR POPULATION, AND YOU'RE ALSO DEALING WITH, THIS USED TO BE A SATURDAY PROBLEM, THEN IT WAS A SATURDAY SUNDAY PROBLEM. NOW IT'S EVERY DAY FROM MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY PROBLEM AND QUICKLY BECOMING BEYOND THAT. >> THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO THAT WOULDN'T BE DIFFICULT, IF YOU LOOK AT WHEN IS OUR TRAFFIC HOUR, LIKE YOU DO ACCOMMODATIONS ON BROADWAY AND TYPE BEEN HARBOR SIDE. BUT YOU DON'T DO ANY ACCOMMODATIONS ON THE SEAWALL. >> WE DO, WE HAVE HAVE TIMING. >> WE HAVE TIMING, BUT YOU SEE THIS IN A LOT OF CITY. >> WE TRY TO GIVE RELIEF TOO, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WHEN WE GIVE DEFERENCE TO THE COMMUTERS, WE TRAP OUR RESIDENTS AND THEN OUR PHONE STARTS RINGING THAT I SAT AT THE LIGHT AT 45TH AND BROADWAY FOR TWO MINUTES. >> BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE AND WORK AT UTMB. WE HAVE A VERY SHORT TRAFFIC HOUR FROM 7-8 AND IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF WE COULD EITHER INCREASES SPEED OR DURING THAT TIME, NOT ALLOW. >> INCREASES ITSELF.[LAUGHTER] >> BUT MAYBE NOT EITHER ON THAT SATURDAY IN THE MORNING, NO GOLF CART OR WHAT GOD FORBID, I SAID IT, AND THEN BETWEEN 4:30-5:30. WHEN WE DO WE ALWAYS SAY WE WANT TO KEEP THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE ON THE ISLAND AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE EASY. SAME WITH BROADWAY, SAME WITH. >> WE GIVE HUGE DEFERENCE TO EAST WEST SEAWALL AND BROADWAY IN THE RUSH HOURS RIGHT NOW. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT. >> WE HAVE BOB AND THEN ALEX, I THINK, AND DAVID, YOU HAD >> YOU BROUGHT UP AN EXCELLENT POINT THAT REALLY POINTS OUT ANOTHER NEED TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS. >> YES, SIR. >> IN THEIR DESIGN OF MOBILITY ISLAND WIDE, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY COMMUTING TO WORK AND BACK ON MOTORIZED SCOOTERS SO THERE'S ALREADY SOME OF THAT. >> THAT'S ALSO CAUSING SOME OF THE ISSUE TOO.[LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON IT AND BEGIN TRYING TO THINK ABOUT IS NOT THAT BIG, ESPECIALLY IN PLACES WHERE THE TOURISTS GO TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WAYS OF MOVING THEM AROUND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THEIR OWN PERSONAL CAR. THAT LEADS YOU BACK TO THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION DISCUSSION, WHICH WE'VE HAD THAT THE FUNDING AND SUPPORT FOR IS DWINDLING EVERY DAY. >> INTERESTING AND ANECDOTAL, I GO TO LUNCH AND MEET MY WIFE DOWNTOWN PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY. I ALWAYS ASK PEOPLE WHEN THEY GET OFF THE TROLLEY, I SAID, YOU JUST DOING THIS FOR A TOURIST TRIP AND I AM SHOCKED AT HOW MANY OF THEM ORIGINALLY SAID, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THE KIDS DOWN TO RIDE THE TROLLEY TO NOUN SAYS NO, WE PARKED OVER THERE AND WE'RE JUST USING THIS TO GET AROUND. THAT IS GETTING MORE AND MORE AND I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ON THE TROLLEYS. >> I AM TOO. >> WHICH IS GOOD, I GUESS. I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I SAW THAT, BUT WE'RE SEEING IT AND OUR RUBBER WHEELS, ARE ACTUALLY GETTING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE RIDING THEM TO AND FROM WORK. BUT THEY'RE WORKING IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY, SO I THINK IT'S A FAIR TRADE OFF. BECAUSE THOSE GO TO THE HOSPITALITY DESTINATIONS, THE HOTEL MOODY GARDENS, SAN LUIS AND THOSE PLACES AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THE WORKERS THAT ARE RIDING THE RUBBER WHEEL TROLLEYS NOW BECAUSE THE BUCK IS CHEAP, AND THEY RUN PRETTY HOT, SO THAT'S GOOD. >> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE PADRE IT'S FREE, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT. >> WELL, WE COULD AND THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY. THOSE ARE HOT FUNDED ASSETS AND WE DO $1 JUST TO, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BECOME COOLING SHELTERS NECESSARILY SO THE DOLLAR HELPS IN THAT RESPECT BUT. >> HAVE ALEX AND THEN DAVID. >> I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO WRAP IT UP. I GUESS, THE DIRECTIVE THAT GIVE THE CITY MANAGER OR TO STAFF IS TO AT LEAST JUSTICE THOROUGH FARE PLANE BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE COMP. BUT LET'S KNOCK OUT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE BRING THE CHANGES. MAYBE WE CAN BRING IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THEN NEXT AGENDA, LET'S GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE CAN DO OF THE MARSHALS. >> YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT NEXT IN JUNE ANYWAY, CERTAIN. >> MOBILITY AND THEN ANOTHER ITEM DOVETAIL INTO IT AND THEN. >> EXCELLENT. >> I GUESS THOSE ARE THE ONES. I JUST ADD AN UPDATE. >> WHAT I HEAR COUNSEL SAYING IS, FIRST OF ALL, ALEX'S SUGGESTION ABOUT USING THE MARSHALS DURING [02:20:03] THE HIGH VOLUME TIMES FOR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND SO FORTH AND MOBILITY. I THINK COUNSEL HAS A FEELING, I GET THE CONSENSUS. WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. >> A SHORT TERM SOLUTION THAT I'VE TALKED TO BOOT STROUD ABOUT IS THAT THE CHEAPER SOLUTION IS TO HIRE CIVILIAN CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO WORK DURING THE WEEK FOR HIGH GRASS AND WEEDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU STILL NEED SOME LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T RESPOND, BUT WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH. I THINK WE CAN GET THERE. >> WE CAN START THAT FAIRLY SOON. >> I DO WANT TO WORK WITH THE POLICE CHIEF TOO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY ISSUES WITH OUR ASSOCIATIONS HERE. >> YEAH, BUT WE CAN START THAT FAIRLY SOON WITH THE MARSHALS. >> WE'RE GOING TO TRY AS QUICK AS WE CAN GET THEM. WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT TO YOU IN JUNE. THE FUNDING IS THERE, I JUST NEED TO GET YOU GUYS TO GREEN LIGHT IT. >> RIGHT. DOES THAT MEET YOUR APPROVAL, ALEX? >> YES. >> ALEX AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. >> YEAH. BRINGING THAT FORWARD, ALSO YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE MOBILITY PLAN. BRIAN, YOU MENTIONED WE NEED TO DO A NEW MOBILITY? >> WELL THIS WAS PART AND PARCEL OF YOUR PREVIOUS COMP PLAN, AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR NEW COMP PLAN. THAT'LL BE PART OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS, BUT WE'LL UPDATE YOU ON THIS ONE AND THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE HAD. >> IF YOU COULD SEND THAT TO COUNSEL WHERE WE STAND BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. >> ABSOLUTELY, YOU'LL HAVE IT SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT IF YOU'D LIKE. >> THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] ALL RIGHT. ONE SECOND. >> ONE LAST THING. >> BOB, LET'S GET DAVID INVOLVED HERE. HE'S BEEN WAITING. >> REGARDING THE UST DOT SMART GRANT PROGRAM, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY PROJECT FOR CONSIDERATION FOR APPLICATION FOR THAT GRANT? >> MARK, DID WE HAVE ANY SITTING UP? >> WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY. YOU DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S AN ACTIVE PROJECT THAT YOU ALL MIGHT BE SUBMITTING FOR THAT APPLICATION? >> WELL, I MEAN, I COULD SPEAK FOR TRINA. WE TALKED ABOUT UPDATED SYNCHRONIZATION. THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST THING. >> BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE OLD SIGNALS. >> THE SIGNAL UPGRADES, FOR SURE. WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING A LITTLE BIT ON SAFETY, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT SOME WAY TO INTERCONNECT CERTAIN THINGS TOGETHER. I MEAN, HARBOR SIDE IS A GOOD CORRIDOR TO DO THAT ON. BUT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE CRUISE TRAFFIC. SO WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY CHANGES THE TIMING, THROWS EVERYTHING OFF. THAT'S REALLY A GOOD SPOT TO LOOK AT. >> SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR DEMONSTRATION PROGRAMS ON THE EFFECTIVE USE OF ITS FOR VARIOUS EFFORTS. WE'VE HEARD TODAY BOTH WITH WHAT THE PORT IS CONSIDERING WITH SOME CREATIVE THAT STACKING OR STORAGE FOR SEMI TRUCKS. WE'VE GOT THE HARBOR SIDE CORRIDOR AS A HUGE ISSUE RELATED TO PEDESTRIAN VEHICLE CONFLICTS. THEN AS COUNCIL MEMBER ROB WAS REFERRING TO, I'LL CALL IT CONGESTION PRICING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM PRICING, BUT PEAK HOUR TIMING OR CHANGES. I THINK THAT YOU COULD PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY GOOD PROJECT HERE, YOU'VE GOT TILL JULY 12 TO DO IT. I'M HAPPY TO SIT WITH YOU AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. BUT I THINK IF WE PUT TOGETHER A GOOD PROJECT THAT TAPS INTO SOME OF THESE VARIOUS ECONOMIC DRIVERS, WE COULD MAKE A PRETTY GOOD PAYCHECK. >> WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK IN TO THAT. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> MY ONLY COMMENT WAS, AS WE UPDATE ON THIS DOCUMENT HERE, IF WE COULD ALSO CONTINUE TO UPDATE ON THAT SMART [INAUDIBLE]. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> SOUNDS GOOD. GREAT TOPIC. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD, COUNSEL. >> TIMELY. >> EXCUSE ME. >> TIMELY BEING MEMORIAL DAY. >> VERY TIMELY. I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE FINAL COMMENT, THE PAST PLAN IS DISCUSSED. I WASN'T HERE. I WAS HERE IN 2016 WHEN WE HAD THE GOODMAN CORPORATION DO THEIR PLAN. THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONCEPT THAT YOU COME ON THE ISLAND AS A VISITOR, PARK ONCE AND DON'T GET BACK IN YOUR CAR UNTIL YOU LEAVE AGAIN. WE TRIED TO PURSUE THAT WITH STRATEGICALLY PLACED PARKING GARAGES AROUND THE ISLAND AND WE STARTED WORKING TOWARDS THAT. WE TALKED WITH THE LANDRY'S, WE TALKED WITH MITCHELL GROUP AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, TO START STRUCTURING THESE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGES WHERE THE TROLLEYS THEN WOULD MAKE A CIRCLE AND A ROUTE THAT WOULD COME INTO EVERY GARAGE. I THINK THAT CONCEPT STILL HAS MERIT AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF OPEN LAND ON THE SEAWALL AND THOSE PROJECTS I THINK COULD HAVE PARKING GARAGES THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THEM. >> IT ALSO FREES UP A LOT OF REAL ESTATE AND THAT SEAWALL PLANNING HAS BEEN THAT, IF WE DID THESE PARKING STRUCTURES ESPECIALLY ALONG SEAWALL, WE COULD ACTUALLY OPEN UP BIKE LANES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW ALL YOUR NON-VEHICULAR, WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY NON VEHICULAR BECAUSE WE GOT VEHICLES ON THERE NOW, ALL YOUR NON MOTORIZED TRAFFIC IS CONFINED TO THAT ONE LITTLE SIDEWALK. [02:25:01] IF YOU COULD SOMEHOW WORK WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE OTHER FLIES IN THE OINTMENT, IS TO GET THEM TO BUY OFF ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE MOVING PARKING OFF THE SEAWALL INTO GARAGES OR INTO. >> MANY TEXAS COASTAL CITIES HAVE TRIED AND TEXANS ARE JUST PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT. >> PEOPLE LIKE THEIR CARS. >> LIKE TO HAVE THEIR CARS. >> OF COURSE I'VE HAD THE ARGUMENT WITH, THAT THEY ALLOW 15 FEET PER DRIVER. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN HERE HAS A 15 FOOT LONG VEHICLE, BUT YOURS LONGER THAN 15 FEET. [LAUGHTER]. >> ALL RIGHT. >> COULD YOU SEND OUT A COPY OF THE 2016 GOODMAN PLAN? >> SURE. TIM, DO YOU HAVE THAT? COULD YOU SEND THAT? >> YES, I DO. >> HAPPY TO SEND THAT OUT. >> THANK YOU. THE 18 ONE. >> THE 18. IT'S 18? >> IT'S 18. WE IMPLEMENTED QUITE A BIT OF THAT WITH THE SEAWALL STOPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. >> THE RUBBER WHEEL TROLL. >> THE RUBBER WHEEL TROLL. >> THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE TO GET A SCORE, I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY. >> SURE. >> ONE LAST THOUGHT. I HATE TO DRAG THIS SUBJECT ON, BUT WE USED TO HAVE AN INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AT THE CITY. >> YES. >> WE CLOSED THAT DOWN FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT COMING UP. >> YES. COMMITTEES TAKE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AND WHEN STAFF TIME IS SITTING IN COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THEY'RE NOT DOING YOUR GRANTS. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> I THINK MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THIS COUNSEL MAY WANT TO LOOK AT IS ALL OF YOUR COMMITTEES, LOOK AT CONSOLIDATION, LOOK AT THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, SO WE CAN STAY FOCUSED. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S A DECISION WE NEED TO MAKE NOW, BUT AS WE GO THROUGH OUR DISCUSSION OF THIS, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. MAYBE THAT'S AN ALTERNATE. >> WHEN I GOT HERE TO THE CITY, WE HAD STAFF SPENDING MORE TIME IN COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAN WE DID DOING WORK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF STOPPING. >> [OVERLAPPING] MANY COMMITTEES AS WE HAVE STUDIES THAT HAVE. >> YES, INDEED. >> YEAH, 35. >> THAT'S WAY DOWN, GUYS. THAT'S DOWN BY A DOZEN FROM WHERE IT WAS. [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION] >> COUNSEL, IT IS 11:33. I AM GOING TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE CONDUCTED TO DISCUSS AND RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE CONCERNING PENDING LITIGATION AND OR A SETTLEMENT OFFER OR ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENT BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE OF BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING, 4.RA.1 PROCEDURES FOR THE RECEIPT OF COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC DURING COUNSEL MEETINGS. IT IS 11:34, WE HAVE NOW MOVED INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THANK YOU. IT IS 12:54 P.M. WE ARE NOW OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA. WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.