[1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER]
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GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE AT THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON.
WANTED TO WELCOME EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE IN THE ROOM.
STAFF, THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
AND COUNCIL GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.
FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS MEETING IN THE COMMUNITY.
GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING.
FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, I WANTED TO SAY THIS IS QUITE AN AUSPICIOUS OCCASION.
THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST WORKSHOP THIS MORNING.
WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS AND COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI.
SO TRY NOT TO HURT MYSELF SMILING.
SO I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE, YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE YOUR RALLY CAPS ON THIS MORNING? I'M SURE, BUT YEAH.
ANYWAY. BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KIND OF GET TOGETHER.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND IT'S KIND OF SAD TO SEE TWO OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS WILL BE THEIR LAST WORKSHOP, BUT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE HAVING THEM ALL THESE YEARS SAYING ALL THAT.
LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
MIKE. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
VERY GOOD. WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER BOUVIER THAT WILL BE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY THIS MORNING HERE.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME THOUGHTS ON ITEM 11 K ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING TONIGHT THAT HAS BEEN PULLED AND THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO US AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, SO THAT'S 11 K.
ALSO YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED, I THINK, YESTERDAY COUNCIL, ITEM TEN H AS IN HENRY, WE HAVE A NEW VERSION THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO US SO THAT TEN H THERE HAS BEEN A FEW LITTLE CHANGES ON THAT THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS MADE. ITEM EIGHT D AS IN DAVID, COUNCIL.
IT WILL REQUIRE SIX POSITIVE VOTES TO PASS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
AND ALSO ON OUR AGENDA TODAY WE HAVE THE PORT WITH US THIS MORNING.
THEY HAVE REQUESTED SOME THEY HAVE SOME THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO ATTEND.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MOVE ITEM THREE C FOR THE PORT UP AS OUR SECOND ITEM TO THREE B, SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET OUR CLARIFICATION ITEMS OUT OF THE WAY.
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PORT ITEM.
BUT LET'S MOVE FORWARD NOW LET'S HAVE ITEM THREE A PLEASE.
[3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (1 Hour)]
ITEM THREE A, CLARIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. VERY GOOD. THIS IS FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES.COUNCILWOMAN, LOUIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START US OFF, OR IS IT TOO EARLY? OKAY, OKAY.
NOT REALLY ANY MAJOR QUESTIONS, BUT LOOKING AT TEN D.
TEN D, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE JUST ADOPTING THE STATE OR FOLLOWING THE ARTICLE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR OUR YOUTH RECREATION. YES, I BELIEVE SO.
PRETTY MUCH. GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
YEAH. NOT ANYMORE. THIS IS FOR THE STATE.
IT'S TO DEDICATE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WE'RE NOT A DAY CARE FACILITY.
BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER SET OF GUIDELINES.
ANYONE ELSE ON THAT ONE? OKAY. HEY, I FOUND INTERESTING THE CAT CAFE.
THE CAT CAFE. HANGING OUT THERE A LOT.
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ANYBODY THAT SEES ME WALK KNOWS I FEED ALL THE DAMN CATS AND EVERYTHING, SO I'M JUST FOR ME.THEY'RE PROBABLY LIMITED TO THE LATTES, BUT.
YEAH, MY WIFE EXPLAINED TO ME WHAT A CAT CAFE.
WHAT IS A CAT CAFE? PROBABLY HAD DIFFERENT MEANINGS, BUT NOW IT IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GO AND HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE OR A SNACK OR A SANDWICH OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S THE GOAL. TAKE A GET A LATTE AND TAKE A CAT HOME.
I BELIEVE JOSH HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON THIS TOO.
YEAH, I THINK SO. MIKE BOUVIER HAS A QUESTION TOO.
WELL, WE'RE DID YOU WANT TO PULL THAT FORWARD? THAT ITEM? SHARON? JUST A BASIC I MEAN, I READ IT, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC ON DANIEL.
DANIEL'S IN THE AUDIENCE, AND HE KNOWS THIS..
COME FORWARD, DANIEL, ON THIS.
WHAT ITEM IS AGAIN IS THAT SHARON? IT IS 8A.
8A. ALRIGHT SO I'M DANIEL LUNSFORD, I'M THE SENIOR PLANNER.
THANK YOU. I FEEL IMPORTANT NOW.
SO YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
DANIEL, THERE'S A LIMITED NUMBER OF CATS THAT COULD BE IN THIS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ONE CAT PER 35 SQUARE FOOT TO A MAXIMUM OF 20.
SO IT'S ALSO BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
I'M INTERESTED HOW THEY COULD GET THOSE CATS TO STAND STILL TO MEASURE THEM.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THEY DIDN'T COME UP IN OUR MEETINGS, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S KIND OF AN OVERALL.
IT'S A CAT CORRAL SORT OF THING.
MIKE DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT? SO WHAT I'VE BEEN WE WE MET PREVIOUSLY STAFF DID WITH BOTH THE LIEUTENANT CALDWELL WITH ANIMAL SERVICES AND JOSH HENDERSON WITH THE ISLAND HUMANE SOCIETY.
AND THEY BOTH INDICATED THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT IT WOULD.
THEY'RE APPARENTLY DOING SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR ALREADY.
WITHOUT THE FOOD COMPONENT, YOU KNOW AT, I BELIEVE OUR PETSMART, I BELIEVE IT IS.
SO, AND THEY SEEM TO BE PRETTY POSITIVELY DISPOSED TO THE IDEA, YES, SIR.
YEAH. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK WE HAD AN INTENT.
CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE REGARDLESS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
YES MARIE. SO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVES OF THIS? WELL, THAT WOULD BE.
SO I'M ALLERGIC TO CATS, SO I'M, LIKE, JUST TRYING TO PICTURE THE HAIR AND THE FOOD AND THE CATS.
MIKEY'S HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU, MARIE.
I, YEAH, I JUST ASKED IF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVED OF IT.
THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE YOU KNOW, ISSUE.
SO, YEAH, HEALTH DISTRICT STANDARDS WOULD APPLY.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE THAT IS PROPOSED.
BUT YEAH, THEY WERE INTERESTED IN STARTING THIS BUSINESS AND WE COULD NOT IDENTIFY ANY EXISTING LAND USE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, CLOSE ENOUGH THAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. WELL, WE CERTAINLY.
AND WE HAVE HUGE INTAKES THIS WEEK..
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST SAY THAT THIS IS PRESENTED AT PLANNING OF COURSE.
AND THEY GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION AT PLANNING.
WE, THEY SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON THIS ISSUE, ANSWERED A TON OF QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT'S BEEN VETTED PRETTY WELL THROUGH THE PROCESS HERE.
AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON BRINGING IT TO US.
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SHARON, ANY OTHER TOPICS? OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? THE BROADWAY USE? EIGHT. EIGHT B.SO THIS IS A WORKSHOP ON OUR WORKSHOP.
THERE'LL BE MORE DISCUSSION AT A WORKSHOP.
SO WHAT'S A WORKSHOP ITEM? YEAH, SO WAIT UNTIL IT COMES UP.
YEAH. SORRY. SO WE'LL GET TO IT.
THE MOTOR, THE RENTAL OF THE MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTER.
YES. WHAT'S A MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTER? THAT'S THOSE LITTLE. THEY HAVE LITTLE ELECTRIC MOTORS ON THESE SCOOTERS, AND IT PROPELS THEM GREAT SPEEDS.
YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THAT ITEM THREE F OF OUR WORKSHOP.
THANK YOU. MARIE. THE ONLY ITEM I HAVE, I THINK IT'S 11 A.M.
AND I HAVE MORE A COMMENT TIED TO ALL THE ONES ON 37TH STREET AND THOSE VARIOUS STREETS.
I THINK WE'RE IN THE BUDGETING THIS IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT HAVE LIKE A DEDICATED PERSON, LIKE, I THINK IT'S THE [INAUDIBLE] OR WHATEVER THAT ROAD IS THE PUB WE APPROVED WHERE THEY'RE DOING A ROAD.
AND THEN THIS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY TURNED OUT TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES.
WE HAD A CONTRACTOR EVERY TIME I DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD AND NOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT DOES IT IT'S JUST REALLY A SHAME.
BUT JUST IN OUR UPCOMING BUDGET, IF WE LOOK AT HAVING SOMEONE IN ENGINEERING THAT OVERSEES THESE ROAD, WE DO MORE DEDICATED PEOPLE TO THE ROADS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE HAVING OUTSIDE GROUPS DO ROADS SO THAT THERE'S MORE OVERSIGHT.
THIS WAS A ISSUE WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
THE ENGINEERING FIRM WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
BUT YEAH, AND ROB WAS ACTUALLY WE'D STILL BE NOT HAVING A SOLUTION IF IT WASN'T FOR ROB.
SO. OH, NO, I'M SAYING WHAT ROB DOES IS GREAT, BUT MAYBE SOME MORE PEOPLE.
I AGREE, AND I'VE TALKED TO ROB ABOUT GETTING ANOTHER ENGINEER OVER THERE..
YEAH, I MEAN HE'S YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE DROWNING.
SO BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT, SO.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR, IF WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
SO WE DON'T SKIP OVER ANYTHING.
TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER ROBB'S.
11 M N AND O FOR 37TH STREET, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS CLEARLY.
THE FIRST TWO, M AND N ARE JUST CLOSING OUT THAT CONTRACT FROM SEAWALL TO NO, FROM P TO BROADWAY.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PIECES. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PIECES.
AND YEAH, FROM P TO SEAWALL AND THEN FROM BROADWAY TO P, WE HAD THAT PROJECT.
SO YES, ROBERT WINIECKE, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE ENGINEERING FOR THE CITY.
THE FIRST TWO ARE CLOSE OUTS OF THE UNDERGROUND CONTRACT FROM BROADWAY ALL THE WAY TO SEAWALL.
IT WAS BROKEN UP INTO TWO PROJECTS, BROADWAY TO P AND THEN P TO SEAWALL.
SO THAT WAS ALL THE UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE WORK, ETC..
YEAH. SO THEN THE THIRD ONE 11 O RELATES TO JUST FINISHING UP THE THE TOP COAT, THAT IT WAS JUST A FUND ALLOCATION ISSUE? YEAH, WE HAD AS WE DID THE CLOSEOUT OF THE OTHER TWO, THE FUNDS ALLOCATED DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAD PLANNED FOR THE PREVIOUS MONTH.
SO WE JUST NEEDED TO CORRECT THAT.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT 37TH STREET PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO MOBILIZE NEXT MONDAY.
MOBILIZE NEXT MONDAY, WHAT'S THE ANTICIPATED COMPLETION DATE OF 180 DAYS TO GET IT DONE? SO SIX MONTHS AT THE MOST.
WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE PRETTY QUICK.
AND IT'S A LOCAL CONTRACTOR ON.
SO WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS IS WE'RE CLOSING IT OUT, GETTING THIS OTHER CONTRACTOR OUT OF HERE.
AND WE BROUGHT IN, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE BIG MASSIVE DECREASES.
AND WE'RE REALLOCATING SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK TO THIS CONTRACTOR TO GET IT FINISHED.
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GOOD. YEAH. WE SAVE SOME MONEY.OVERALL, WE TURNED BACK ABOUT $3.5 MILLION FROM THE PROJECT AND WE'RE SPENDING 1.4 AND SOME CHANGE.
SO THERE'S ABOUT 2 MILLION NET SURPLUS COMING BACK TO THE CITY.
APPRECIATE IT. AND THAT WAS AND I WILL GIVE 1,000% CREDIT TO ROB ON THAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE STREET WAS A HUGE INCONVENIENCE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVED THERE.
VERY GOOD. COUNCILMAN FINKLEA, ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? NO. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN COLLINS.
THE ONLY THING I'M INTERESTED IN IS THE TEN H.
THIS IS PART OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE TRAFFIC.
THIS ONE IS THE ONE WE GOT THE NEW VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE ON.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS FOR? WHY, THERE'S THE MARSHALL RIGHT BEHIND YOU THERE.
THERE WAS A PIECE OF IT THAT ORIGINALLY INCLUDED THE STATE ALLOWED AN INCREASE OF.
AND WE'VE REMOVED THIS PORTION, BUT THE STATE HAD APPROVED AN INCREASE IN THE HANDICAPPED PARKING FUND, WHICH WE WERE ALL ON BOARD WITH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY STRONG SUPPORT OF THE HANDICAPPED PARKING.
SO UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT RESOLVED, WE PULLED THE HANDICAPPED FEES OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME OF THE CHANGE YOU SEE THIS AFTERNOON.
GOOD MORNING MARSHALL. MORNING.
BUTCH STROUD, CITY MARSHAL HERE, CITY OF GALVESTON.
THIS IS THE PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THREE YEARS.
GET OUT OF A VEHICLE AND MOVE A LANE OF TRAFFIC AND PUT A PARKING TICKET ON A WINDSHIELD.
IT'S GOING TO DO A LOT OF GOOD FOR NOT ONLY GALVESTON, BUT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE STATE.
THE PROCESS IS OUR VEHICLES WILL CONTINUE TO ROLL DOWN THE ROAD USING OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW COLLECT THE DATA. IT'LL BE VERIFIED AND CONFIRMED THAT THE INFORMATION IS CORRECT.
IT'LL BE SUBMITTED TO OUR VENDOR, WHICH IN TURN WILL GET THE INFORMATION FOR THE VEHICLE OWNER AND THEN SEND THE TICKET IN THE MAIL. THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO INCREASE THE FEES TO DO THAT.
WE'RE ERRING ON THE SIDE OF HOLIDAY OR SOMETHING.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, CURRENTLY THE ONLY OPTION IS IN-PERSON APPEALS.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK DOWN FOR A PARKING CITATION.
THEY CAN DO THIS ELECTRONICALLY.
COUNCILMAN. FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
SIX MONTHS AGO. AND SO WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THIS YET.
WE'RE IN THE TESTING PHASE STILL, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TESTING, BECAUSE THE THIS INFORMATION HAS TO BE LISTED ON THE SITE, THE CITATION THEY GET, AND UNTIL IT GETS PASSED, WE CAN'T PUT IT ON THE CITATION.
OKAY. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE ACTIVELY TESTING THE SYSTEM AND HAVE BEEN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW.
WHAT WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY SCANNING THE LICENSE PLATE, MAKING SURE IT HAS THE CORRECT ADDRESS WHERE IT IS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PICTURES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WE HAVE ONE AT THE FIRST TIME WE SCAN IT.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY GET THIS CITATION IN THE MAIL? IT'S GOING TO HAVE TWO PHOTOS, ONE THE FIRST TIME DATE STAMPED AND LOCATION, AND THEN IT'LL HAVE THE SECOND TIME DATE STAMP AND LOCATION WHICH VALIDATES THE FAILURE TO PAY THE SITE FOR PARKING.
SO THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING THAT THEY DIDN'T PAY.
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OKAY. AND YOU'VE BEEN TESTING THIS ON SEAWALL? YES. OKAY.IF THIS GETS APPROVED, WHEN WILL YOU ACTUALLY START ISSUING CITATIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY 30 DAYS, BUT WE'RE ONLY WE'RE ON THE, THE TIMELINE OF AS LONG AS WE'RE TESTING IT AND IT WORKS WELL. THEN WE CAN DO IT.
IT VERY WELL COULD BE LONGER IF THE TESTING DOESN'T GO AS WE HOPE.
OUR.. TESTING GOING SO FAR? WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS.
OKAY. AND WHEN WE FIND A PROBLEM, WELL, THEN THEY FIX IT.
SOMETIMES THAT CAUSES ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE TO FIX.
AND THIS IS NOT A NEW PROCESS.
I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN USED IN OTHER PLACES.
WE'RE NOT A FIRST HERE? WE WILL BE A FIRST FOR TICKET BY MAIL FOR PARKING CITATIONS.
THEY'VE HAD TICKET BY MAIL FOR YEARS FOR PARKING LOTS.
OKAY. THEY'VE HAD TICKETS FOR YEARS FOR TOLL ROADS.
YEP. WE'LL BE THE FIRST ONE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO HAVE TICKET BY MAIL FOR CURB PARKING.
SO WE HERE AT A COUNCIL LEVEL, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS ON THE SEAWALL, SEEING HOW THINGS GO, BRINGING BACK SOME DATA TO US, AND THEN POSSIBLY IMPLEMENTING THIS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THAT'S CORRECT. THAT STILL, THAT WAS A PLAN.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.
OKAY. SEAWALL FIRST MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING.
AND IF IT'S WORKING GOOD THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND THEN Y'ALL CAN EXPAND IT TO DOWNTOWN AND UTMB.
BUTCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FINKLEA.
AND THEN COUNCIL AND THEN COUNCILMAN ROBB.
SO I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT ON THE SEAWALL.
MR. MAXWELL, SO THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE METHODS AND REPEATEDLY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GET WE'RE GOING TO GET A LITTLE, A LITTLE CONVERSATION GOING HERE WHEN PEOPLE COME BACK. OKAY.
COUNCILMAN ROBB I'M MORE JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE FLOCK CAMERAS, WHICH ARE SCANNING LICENSE PLATES, WE'RE ALREADY SCANNING LICENSE PLATES, BUT WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE FLOCK CAMERA SCANNING LICENSE PLATE.
THAT SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
JUST A COMMENT. THE ONLY, ONLY RESPONSE I WOULD HAVE IS WE'RE SCANNING LICENSE PLATES FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE, AND THAT'S TO VERIFY IF SOMEONE IS PAID TO PARK WHEN REQUIRED.
THAT'S WHAT OUR OUR PURPOSE IS.
FLOCK IS SCANNING LICENSE PLATES FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING EXTRA SUPPORT TO OUR POLICE FORCE.
IT'S JUST A COMMENT, OKAY? WE'RE KIND OF GETTING, I KNOW OFF SUBJECT, BUT I LOVE TO SEIZE THE MOMENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANKS.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
YES. BUT WHEN A PERSON PARKS AND I KNOW THEY PAY IN THE MACHINE OR GO TO IT OR PUT IT IN THEIR PHONE OR WHATEVER, IS THERE A LITTLE DELAY? IS IT IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A MARSHAL CAN PULL UP AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF THEY HAVE 15 MINUTES FROM THE TIME THEY PARK, AND USUALLY THAT 15 MINUTES IS LONGER THAN 15 MINUTES, BECAUSE WE CAN'T RUN THE WHOLE SEAWALL IN 15 MINUTES.
IF THE POSSIBILITY OF YOU PULLING UP AND PUTTING IT IN PARK AND WE DRIVE BY IS PRETTY RARE.
WELL, I'VE HEARD A FEW PEOPLE COMPLAIN THAT MARSHALS.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WE TIME STAMP ALL OUR PICTURES SO WE CAN.
IF SOMEBODY HAS CLAIMED THAT WE THEY HAVE TO BE SCANNED TWICE.
SO IF THEY JUST PULLED UP AND THEY WERE SITTING IN THEIR CAR, THEY WOULDN'T GET A TICKET.
THEY'D BE SCANNED ONCE AND THEN 15 MINUTES LATER AT THE EARLIEST, THEY'D BE SCANNED AGAIN.
SO UNLESS THEY WERE JUST COGITATING OVER THIS FOR 15 MINUTES, THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
WELL, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN AN OLDER PERSON TRYING WELL OR IN SOME YOUNGER PEOPLE, I MEAN, I'VE GONE OVER AND HELPED A NUMBER OF PEOPLE DO IT BECAUSE IT ISN'T THE MOST INTUITIVE SYSTEM.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT I KNOW I'VE BEEN PARKED IN A SITUATION BEFORE TIME DOWNTOWN, AND MARSHALS WERE TAKING PICTURES OF THE CARS. WHY WOULD THEY BE DOING THAT? IF THEY'RE TAKING A PHOTO? IT'S SOMETHING OTHER THAN FAILURE OR FAILURE TO PAY TO PARK.
IT WOULD BE A 8:00 IN THE MORNING.
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PARKING IN THE RED ZONE.I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THEY WOULD DO THAT.
I DO HAVE TWO. WE TALKED ABOUT SEAWALL, SO THAT'S.
LET'S SEE, 11 F THESE ARE THESE ARE PRETTY EASY QUESTIONS, BUT THIS THIS REPURCHASING A DUMP TRUCK.
THANKS. THANKS. BUSH. WE'RE PURCHASING A DUMP TRUCK HERE.
IT COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
HOW MUCH IS THE HOW MUCH DO WE ALLOCATE IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR VEHICLE PURCHASE DOLLARS A YEAR? MILLION. MILLION? ONE DEPENDS ON THAT AREA.
1,000,001 COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR THAT.
AND THOSE LIKE. SO THIS DUMP TRUCK IS FOR STREETS.
SO WE ALLOCATE ABOUT $1 MILLION PER YEAR.
SO THIS WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THE STREETS DEPARTMENT.
IT WILL REPLACE ONE THAT NEEDS TO GO.
POLICE AND FIRE VEHICLES COME OUT OF THIS SAME MILLION DOLLARS.
NOT NOT OUT OF WELL NOT FIRE TRUCKS BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCH THAT WOULD TAKE THE TAKE THE WHOLE THING.
YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW ANCILLARY FIRE EQUIPMENT.
JUST THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY EVERY YEAR GOES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
OKAY. THE MAJORITY OF THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR VEHICLE VEHICLES.
OKAY. AND THEN 11 H HOW MANY OF THE BRAND NEW TAHOES HAVE ALREADY BLOWN ENGINES? DAVID. TWO. WELL, ONE AND A HALF.
THOSE ARE WARRANTY THOUGH. THEY ARE WORN.
YEAH. IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU BUY A BRAND NEW CAR.
YOU DON'T EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN.
11 H I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS.
SO THE OWNER IS THE OWNER, DOES THE OWNER GET THE INVOICE FOR THIS? NO. WELL, HERE'S THIS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION.
WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS ONE.
RIGHT. WE ACTUALLY APPROACHED THE OWNER AND SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE US? WHEN THE HOUSE BURNED, WE APPROACHED HIM AND SAID WE WOULD BE GLAD TO TEAR IT DOWN AND GIVE YOU X AMOUNT OF TIME TO PAY US BACK.
DIDN'T DO IT. HE SAID, I'M GOING TO DO IT MYSELF.
YEAH. HE DID NOT DO IT HIMSELF.
SO WE APPROACHED HIM ONE MORE TIME AND SAID, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
HE WENT TO COURT. HE DIDN'T APPEAR.
I THINK HE DIDN'T APPEAR IN COURT THE FIRST TIME.
YEAH. AND THE SECOND TIME WE WENT AND TOOK THE ACTION, TORE DOWN AND FILED THE LIEN.
AND SO AND AGAIN, I HAD A LITTLE CONVERSATION WITH BUTCH ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE OWNER CONTACTED ME FOR SOME REASON, THE OWNER AND I'M JUST SO WE'RE OUT THIS MONEY AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THE LIEN.
THIS INVOICE DOES NOT GET SENT TO THE OWNER TO PAY.
SO. THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN.
SO IT WOULD BEHOOVE HIM TO COME IN AND PAY THIS LIEN.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. DO WE NOT JUST SEND HIM AN INVOICE SAYING, HEY, PAY THIS? HE GETS NOTIFIED VIA LEGAL LEGAL PROCESS OF THE LIEN AND THE AMOUNT OF THE LIEN, THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST THAT'S ACCRUING IN THE PENALTY.
SO, YES, IN A SENSE, HE GETS AN INVOICE, BUT HE GETS IT.
THE FORM OF THE LIEN AFTER THE LIEN IS FILED.
WHY DON'T YOU NOTIFY HIM BEFORE THAT? OH, WE TRIED TO GET HIM TO PAY FOR IT UP FRONT.
WE TRIED EVERYTHING WITH THIS.
THE CONTRACT FOR DESTRUCTION IS WITH THE CITY.
THE CITY GETS A BILL WITH THE SERVICES GIVEN TO THE CITY.
WE TAKE THAT BILL WHICH SENDS IT TO THE OWNER AND SAYS, HEY, THIS PLEASE.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING THERE.
I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION, SO HE GETS SOME KIND OF NOTICE BEFORE THE ACTUAL LIEN PROCESS OR.
OH, YEAH. THIS MAN HAS BEEN NO, NO, NO SO MANY TIMES.
OH NO, NO, HE HAS BEEN HE HAS BEEN COMPLETELY NOTICED.
YOU COULD I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE ON HOW THIS WORKS.
SO IT'S INTERESTING AND IT TAKES FOREVER TO GET TO THIS POINT.
SO OKAY, WE DON'T WANT OUR CONTRACTOR TO WAIT FOR PAYMENT WHILE WE CHASE SOMEBODY DOWN.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO NOT PAY THE CONTRACTOR.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JOHN, VERY MUCH.
YES, MAYOR. I DIDN'T GO ALL THE WAY DOWN MY STACK.
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THE CONTRACT FOR THE ADA.I JUST WANT TO KNOW. I KNOW SEVERAL RESIDENTS WHO USE THIS.
IT'S JUST. NO, IT'S JUST A RENEWAL.
RENEWAL? THE CONTRACT? PRETTY MUCH. YES, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING. AS YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL RESIDENTS WHO USE THIS.
IT'S JUST A RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT.
THEY STILL THE BOOKLET AND ALL THAT REMAINS THE SAME.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL. I HAD NO QUESTIONS OF MY OWN.
YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
STAFF. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
GREATLY APPRECIATE HAVING YOU HERE.
LET'S MOVE TO ITEM THREE C PLEASE.
[3.C. Discussion Of Cruise Terminal 16, Related Parking Garage, And Associated Debt Structure (R. Rees/Brown - 20 Min)]
THREE C, DISCUSSION OF CRUISE TERMINAL 16 RELATED PARKING GARAGE AND ASSOCIATED DEBT STRUCTURE.VERY GOOD. WE HAVE ROGER REESE WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PORT WITH US.
TONY DID YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD ALSO? YEAH. I STILL DON'T THINK I'LL HAVE TO SEE ROGER AND TONY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP, HAVE A SEAT, PLEASE. STAFF, I MEAN COUNCIL BEFORE US TODAY IS WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OF CRUISE TERMINAL 16 RELATED PARKING GARAGE THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT FROM THE PORT.
ALSO, I JUST WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT IN THIS DISCUSSION TODAY IN OUR PACKET MATERIAL, WE DID HAVE KIND OF REVIEW OF THE LAST BOND PROPOSAL AND WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT FOR CRUISE TERMINAL 25.
THAT'S IN OUR PACKET MATERIAL.
AND ALSO ON OUR AGENDA TODAY CONCERNING THE PORT, ITEM 12 A IS AN ITEM FOR RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THE REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENSES FROM THE BOND PROPOSAL THAT WILL COME TO US NEXT MONTH.
THIS BOND PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW THAT IS CONCENTRATED ON CRUISE TERMINAL 16 WILL BE ON OUR MAY 23RD AGENDA FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL AT COUNCIL'S WISHES.
BUT THAT WILL BE ON OUR MAY 23RD AGENDA.
I'M GOING TO TURN THE PROGRAM OVER.
I THINK YOU WERE SENT SOME INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING REALLY TOWARDS THE CAP OF 150 MILLION.
MORE INFORMATION ON EACH ONE OF THOSE COMPONENTS.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL UPDATE THAT INFORMATION.
WE WE'RE RIGHT NOW AT 100% OF DRAWINGS FOR FOR ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION AND YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE'RE ABOUT 30 AND THIS IS ON JUST THE TERMINAL ITSELF AND THE PARKING GARAGE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WE WE HAVE BASICALLY BROUGHT IN THE MARINE WORK AS A SECOND PHASE BECAUSE OF THE, THE SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME TO COMPLETE YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T START CONSTRUCTION ON THE, ON THE MARINE WORK UNTIL THE FIRST QUARTER OF 26, I MEAN, 25.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE HAD. AND THAT'S A CONTINUAL PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL NOW WAITING ON THE SECOND GMP YOU KNOW, WE ARE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME RFPS ON THE PASSENGER BOARDING BRIDGES AS WELL AS THE PARKING DECK.
THOSE ARE THE TWO LONGEST LEAD ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.
YES, SIR. WHAT'S GMT THIS? THIS WILL BE OUR SECOND GMP.
GMP, WHAT IS THIS? OH, GROSS. MAXIMUM PRICE.
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NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE, BECAUSE AS WE HEAD INTO THE REST OF THIS YEAR AND 25 AND 26, THE PORT HAS A LOT GOING ON.AND THIS IS WHERE WE BEGINNING THIS SUMMER TO BUILD A NEW BERTHS ON THE WEST END.
AND WE'RE DOING BACKFILL AND FILLING THE SLIPS.
RIGHT AROUND $50 MILLION IN CASH OURSELVES.
MY GOAL AS THE PORT DIRECTOR AND, AND I HAVE CONVEYED IT TO THE BOARD, IS WE WANT TO MAINTAIN RESERVES OF OVER $20 MILLION. SO WE'RE PLANNING ALL OF OUR PROJECTS AS WE GO FORWARD TO WITH THAT IN MIND, THAT WE DON'T EVER WANT TO GET BELOW A CASH RESERVE AMOUNT OF 20 MILLION THIS 20 DAYS.
IS THAT HOW MANY DAYS OF OPERATION IS THAT? HOW MANY DAYS OF OPERATION IS THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY SIX MONTHS.
YEAH. AND SO YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS, IT'S A IT'S A MOVING TARGET.
AT THIS STAGE, THE ONLY THING IT'S NOT REALLY MOVING IS THE IS THE 150 MILLION.
I MEAN, WE'RE WORKING EVERYTHING TOWARDS THE 150.
AND AS WE GET MORE, AS WE GET THOSE COMPONENTS, THEY'LL BE MAKING, WE MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
WE DID WE DID COME UP WITH WE CAME UP $5 MILLION ON THE MARINE WORK.
AT THIS STAGE, WE'RE ONLY AT 30% GMP A 30% PROFIT PERCENTAGE.
WE'RE RIGHT NOW BUDGETING ABOUT 5 MILLION.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
REALLY THE TWO YEARS ARE GOING TO BE REALLY AFFECTED ARE 25 AND 26.
AND AND IT WILL BE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT'LL BE ONE OF THESE, ONE OF THESE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'LL MAKE A DECISION ON WHERE WE'RE GOING ON A COUPLE OF SMALLER PROJECTS THAT AFFECT OUR CASH FLOW.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT 100% FINANCING ON THE, ON ON BASICALLY THE BOND PROPOSAL.
THE ONLY CAVEAT OR THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN'T WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PIN DOWN AT THIS POINT, IS HOW MUCH WE'LL HAVE TO COME OUT OF POCKET FOR CLOSING COSTS.
AND BECAUSE WE'LL BE PUTTING UP ABOUT 17 MILLION.
AND WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT ALL THOSE PROCEEDS NOW THAT PROJECT IS IS IN FINAL STAGES AND WE WILL BE ADJUSTING OUR CAPITAL COST RECOVERY WITH WITH CARNIVAL FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE WE HAVE TWO OTHER PROJECTS THAT REALLY WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS ON THE WEST END.
ONE IS THE FEMA PROJECT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT GOOD NEWS ON THAT.
WE'VE BEEN EXTENDED THROUGH JUNE OF NEXT YEAR TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE WE'VE GOT IS OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A THE STATE PROJECT, WHICH THIS THE STATE ALLOCATED ABOUT $42 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDS TO US TO TO FINISH THE SECOND SLIP FILL AND TO COMPLETE A WHOLE NEW WALL OR THIS REALLY WHAT IS IT WILL BE A WALL WHERE WE'LL WE'LL BUILD A NEW BERTH ON THE WEST END.
1300 FEET BERTH WILL BE BUILT DOWN THERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LONG BEEN LONG COMING.
WE'LL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON THE WEST END.
AND THE REASON HOW THAT FITS IN IS BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A TWO OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT.
AND ONE IS THE PAVING OF PIER 41, WHICH PIER 41 HAS BEEN IN DISREPAIR FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
THIS PORT WAS A LOT OF THIS STUFF WAS FILLED WAY BACK WHEN.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOIL UNDER THERE.
AND SO WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT IS A OVER THREE YEAR PERIOD.
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THAT'S A $12 MILLION PROJECT TO REPAY THE WHOLE 41.AND THEN THE OTHER PROJECT IS THE DEMOLITION OF THE GRAIN ELEVATOR.
WE SHOULD HAVE RFPS, WE SHOULD HAVE RESULTS COMING IN FIRST PART OF NEXT MONTH.
I THINK IT'S THE THIRD OF MAY.
THE KEY IS GOING TO BE WHERE THE FINAL NUMBERS SHAKE OUT ON THE CRUISE TERMINAL 16.
AND AS I MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO, MY, MY, MY MY CALCULATIONS AND HOW WE WORK FORWARD ON ON THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP REALLY WILL BE DEPENDENT ON THE WHERE WE GO ON THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
AND THIS IS JUST, THIS IS A PROBABLY 60 DAY SCENARIO.
SO I THINK WE WE'RE WE'LL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WHICH OF THESE PROJECTS WE HAVE TO DEFER.
ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET BELOW $20 MILLION IN RESERVES.
SO THAT'S THIS IS THIS IS WHERE I'M WE'RE KIND OF WORKING BACKWARDS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T EVER GET BELOW 20 MILLION IN RESERVES.
AND THEN HERE AGAIN WITH CT 16 WE'RE WE'RE FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S IS COMING IN PLAY.
IT'S JUST A TIMING OF YOU KNOW, THE TWO MAJOR TRIBES, AS I MENTIONED, THE, THE, THE ORDERING OF PASSENGER BOARDING BRIDGE, WHICH TAKES OVER A YEAR TO GET THOSE COMPLETED. AND THEN THERE'S CONCERN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE TIMING OR THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE TO PUT THE GARAGE TOGETHER, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE A THE FORMS WILL BE POURED AND BROUGHT IN AND PUT TOGETHER.
SO THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME TIMING THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE KIND OF AT A STAGE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE'RE NARROWING DOWN CT 16.
WE KNOW THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN $150 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS SAY WE COULD GO UP ABOVE THAT IF WE NEEDED TO.
BUT, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO KEEP THIS THIS UNDERNEATH THIS AMOUNT AND THEN THE THE OUT-OF-POCKET THAT WE'LL NEED TO CLOSE THIS WILL DETERMINE WHERE WE GO ON SOME OF THESE SMALLER PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW BACK TO THE BOND NOW FOR THE CRUISE TERMINAL 16.
BRIAN, WE'VE HAD A DEBT GROUP MEETING WITH THE PORT REGULARLY ON THIS.
AND SO THAT WILL BE BOTH OF YOU.
THE CITY AND THE PORT HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON MEETINGS TO BRING THIS FORWARD FOR MAY.
IS THAT RIGHT, BRIAN? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WE'VE ALSO MET WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
YES, AND HAVE GONE OVER THE PROJECT WITH THEM ALSO AND THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION, I THINK, WHICH IS ON YOUR AGENDA TO DISCUSS AND WE WHAT WE DID ON THAT WAS WE HAD ORIGINALLY WE ORIGINALLY PUT THE WHOLE AMOUNT OF THE OFFERING IN THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.
EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION DOES.
IT JUST ALLOWS US, BASED ON A TIME TIME STAMP, SO TO SPEAK, TO MOVE, TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES FOR EXPENSES THAT WE INCUR PRIOR TO THE CLOSING OF THE BOND ISSUE.
AND SO THAT THAT WAS WE WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT ON THAT TO 60 MILLION, 60 MILLION AT THE REQUEST OF, OF DAN BUCKLEY ON AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.
SO LET'S JUST LOWER THAT AMOUNT TO A MORE REASONABLE.
AND WE THINK THAT YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WE'LL BE SOMEWHERE BASED ON OUR OUR SCHEDULING SOMEWHERE IN THE SPEND RANGE OF ABOUT 50,000,000 IN 24 BY THE END OF 24.
LET'S OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
YOU BROUGHT UP CASH RESERVES A COUPLE OF TIMES.
YEAH. DO Y'ALL HAVE A RESERVE POLICY? CASH RESERVE POLICY? WE DO NOT. IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU PICKED THE $20 MILLION? NO. IS THAT. YEAH.
NO. WHAT THAT REALLY WAS I'M TRYING TO CHOOSE DEBT SERVICE.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU IT'S THERE BUT YOU CAN'T SPEND THAT.
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I'M KEEPING IT. I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST COMFORTABLE WITH 20 MILLION AND BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THE PORT IS CASH FLOWING ABOUT $2.5 MILLION A MONTH. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO REFURBISH AND REPLENISH, YOU KNOW, OUR DEBT SERVICE, WE'RE..I MEAN, IS THERE A REASON TO KEEP IT THAT HIGH? I MEAN, WE HAVE 120 DAY CASH RESERVE POLICY AT THE CITY.
IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM WHAT? WELL, SIX MONTHS. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, A DEBT SERVICE OR OPERATING CAPITAL.
SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO BOTH OF THEM AT 20 MILLION.
RIGHT. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE YOU KNOW, I'M IN SHORT OF SOMEONE TELLING ME EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.
YOU KNOW WE TRY TO I MEAN, YEAH, I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.
RIGHT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE ON Y'ALL'S HORIZON TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND IF IT DOES VALIDATE LOWERING IT, YOU KNOW, TO 120 DAYS OR WHATEVER.
RIGHT? IT WOULD IT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP.
SO WHILE 100 YOU KNOW IT'S WHILE WE USE 120 DAYS FOR IN THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE WE ADVANCE AND REFUND AND ADVANCE AND REFUND BECAUSE WE HAVE BIG PROJECTS AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR MONEY.
SOMETIMES A LOT OF OUR MONEY IS REIMBURSED.
ARE YOU DOING MATCHES AND THINGS? SO, I MEAN, IT'S CONSERVATIVE. IT'S CONSERVATIVE.
RIGHT? IT'S WORK. IT'S WORKING CASH IS WHAT IT IS FOR ANYTHING ELSE? IF THIS BOND PROPOSAL IS PASSED KIND OF THE TIMELINE ON THE CONSTRUCTION FOR CRUISE TERMINAL 16, THE GARAGE.
AND WHEN WERE THE FIRST SHIPS BE COMING IN FOR? YOU KNOW WE HAVE A DROP DEAD DATE OF THE 5TH OF NOVEMBER 2025.
I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHEN THE FIRST SHIP COMES IN.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME PENALTIES.
WE WE OUR CONTRACTOR IS OBLIGATED TO BE DONE BY AUGUST 31ST OF NEXT YEAR, 2025.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON THESE TYPE OF, OF TIME CONSTRAINTS.
BUT YOU KNOW I THINK FROM FROM WHERE WE'RE SEEING EVERYTHING WORK AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THIS CONTRACTORS AND, SOME OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS. SO WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT WHEN THEY GIVE US DATES.
THEY'VE MET PRETTY MUCH EVERY DATE THAT THEY HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER.
I MEAN, SOMETIMES JUST RECENTLY ON 25, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE LABOR IN IN PLACE TO PUT IN THOSE NEW ELEVATORS WAS PAST THE, THE DEADLINE.
BUT, I MEAN, IT WAS A SELF-IMPOSED DEADLINE WITH US IN CARNIVAL.
AND SO WE WERE WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THAT.
THAT'S ALL IN PLAY. AND SO THE FINAL PUNCH LIST IS WORKING ON THAT.
AND, COUNCILMAN COLLINS, I WAS JUST INDICATING THAT COUNCIL COUNCILMAN BOUVIER HAD A QUESTION.
ALL THE CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING. THE TERMINAL IS 100% COMPLETE FOR THE TERMINAL.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE MARINE WORK WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE SHORE.
AND THE REASON WHY IS THE SHORTEST TIME FRAME.
I MEAN, THAT THAT CAN BE DONE.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WE'RE EVERY REPORT WE'VE HAD, THE MARINE WORK IS IS MINIMAL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL GAPS, AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THOSE.
THE SECOND GMP WILL BE AT THE BEGINNING HERE, I THINK OF NEXT MONTH.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT WILL GET CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE REAL NUMBERS.
BUT THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE, ARE COMPLETE.
AND SO THEY'RE NOW PRICING THAT OUT WITH ALL THE SUBS.
YES. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL CONCERNED BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
RIGHT? HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE CARGO IN AND OUT THROUGH CONSTRUCTION? THROUGH A CONSTRUCTION PERIOD? SO WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY, WHEN I AGREE YOU KNOW, WE DO MEET PERIODICALLY WITH ILA.
THE REAL GIVES THE ILA IS REALLY EMPLOYED BY THE STEVEDORES.
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AND SO THE STEVEDORES HAVE TO REALLY MAINTAIN THAT RELATIONSHIP.AND THE STEVEDORES ARE WHO AT THE TABLE RIGHT NOW WORKING ON WHAT HAPPENS IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BECAUSE WE'RE, GETTING A LOT OF WIND TOWERS IN AND, AND WE SEE A LOT MORE OF THAT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON INTERNALLY IS, IS IF WE TAKE DOWN THE GRAIN ELEVATOR, IF IT COMES DOWN TO TWO PROJECTS, IN ORDER FOR US TO MAINTAIN THE $20 MILLION IN RESERVES, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN LIKELY WE'LL GO TO THE GRAIN ELEVATOR FIRST, BECAUSE THAT WILL RELEASE ABOUT 20 ACRES TO THE PORT ONCE THAT'S DOWN.
NOW, THAT'S A THAT'S A YEAR AND A HALF PROJECT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE BUILDING THE BERTHS AND BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT I MEAN, WE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH ADM THERE, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS IT WAS A BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH OF US TO TERMINATE THAT RELATIONSHIP.
BUT THE GOOD THING FOR US IS, IS NOW WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT SPACE WHILE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE COUNCILMAN COLLINS AND COUNCILMAN FINKLEA.
I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN BOUVIER HAD A QUESTION.
AND AT THAT TIME, HAVE YOU ALL RECEIVED YOUR EARLY FOUNDATION PERMIT? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE HOPING TO GET IT IN APRIL.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE OR NOT.
OKAY. OUR ENGINEERS AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH.
SO THAT'S STILL ON SCHEDULE OKAY.
OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST TOLD US THAT.
BUT EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE MOVING FORWARD ACCORDING TO THE SCHEDULE.
AND THEN OUR IN OUR CONTRACTS ARE FALLING RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT TOO.
I MEAN, WITH WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THE TIMING.
SURE. AND RELATED TO THE OTHER TWO IMPROVEMENTS, THE FILLING IN THE SLIPS AND THE ADM STUFF, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID THERE'S MORE LIKE KIND OF A 60 DAY EVALUATION OR SO. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID, SORT OF FIGURING OUT WHICH ONE YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY RELEASE FIRST.
BUT YOU'VE GOT RFPS OUT FOR BOTH.
THERE'S TWO PROJECTS GOING ON OUT THERE NOW.
OKAY. ONE OF THEM FILLS ONE SLIP, WHICH IS FEMA.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE MONEY WE RECEIVED FROM TXDOT TO FILL THAT SLIP.
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA MAY 23RD.
REAL QUICKLY BEFORE WE FINISH JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW ON THE LAST BOND THAT WE APPROVED.
HOW IS THAT SHAPING UP? OR IS ALL COMPLETION, ALL YOUR.
IT'S DONE. WE WE HAVE EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE SPENT THE LAST OF THE PROCEEDS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT GOT EVERYTHING DONE.
AND SO THAT ALL COMES IN AT THE END.
RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE NOW THE BOND OFFERING PROCEEDS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE TERMINAL CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.
SO WE'VE TAKEN THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE.
AND YOU KNOW, BUT FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, IT'S LIKE ADDING CATS, RIGHT? WE NEED SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE ONLY ALLOW 15 CATS.
15. OKAY. CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, IT'S IN THE FINAL PUNCH LIST.
YEAH. WE RECEIVED A AN HONOR FROM THE ATLANTA BUSINESS JOURNAL FOR LANDMARK AWARD FOR THAT TERMINAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBERS? TONY.
THANK YOU. TONY, ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE DASH TO THAT CAT CAFE AND GET MY BLANKET? DASH, HE WAS A VISITOR LAST NIGHT AGAIN? YEAH. ONE GUY LEFT THE GATES OPEN.
THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOW LET'S MOVE TO ITEM THREE B AS IN BOY, PLEASE.
[3.B. Discussion Of TxDOT Funding For The City's Transportation System (J. Oliver - 15 Min)]
OKAY. THREE B, DISCUSSION OF TXDOT FUNDING FOR THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, WE HAVE JAMES OLIVER, DIRECTOR OF OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THIS MORNING.
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THAT WAS A DRIVE IN THIS MORNING.JAMES, IT'S NORMALLY A 20 MINUTE DRIVE.
OH, MR. OLIVER HAD SENT OUT SOME INFORMATION TO YOU.
COUNCIL, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT A BACKGROUND INTO THIS SUBJECT, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT AT STAFF LEVEL FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS NOW, AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO UPDATE US ON WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.
AND MR. OLIVER, IF YOU COULD KIND OF START US OFF WITH JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THIS, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO DETAILS OF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE THE THE FIRST PAGE ON THERE IS A TIMELINE, WHICH IS I WANTED TO START WITH THAT GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, NOT TOO IN DEPTH.
WE'LL START JUST START IN NOVEMBER OF 21, 2021, WHEN THEY PASSED THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, WHEN THEY PASSED THAT IT WAS BASED UPON THE 2020 TEN CENSUS.
AN FTA MADE A POLICY DECISION.
AT THAT TIME, ANY APPORTIONMENT FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE DONE BASED UPON THE 2010 CENSUS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY KNOCKED OUT GALVESTON FOR FEDERAL FUNDING FOR.
WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ON RESERVES.
AND MID 22, THE CENSUS WAS ANNOUNCED AND THE CENSUS BUREAU, IN THEIR WISDOM, TOOK GALVESTON AND TEXAS CITY AND COMBINED IT INTO ONE ZONE, WHAT THEY CALL A WSA AN URBANIZED ZONE, SO ANY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FUNDING WOULD GO TO THAT ZONE.
IN LATE 22, WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH MYSELF, TXDOT, FTA, AND THE TEXAS CITY TRANSPORTATION PROVIDER GCT.
AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A WHAT IS CALLED A SPLIT LETTER WOULD BE DONE.
AND WHAT A SPLIT LETTER IS, IS A FUNDING INSTRUMENT FOR TWO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PROVIDERS, RECIPIENTS OF FEDERAL FUNDING, AND A ZONE WAS BASED UPON THE METHODOLOGY IT SPLIT.
FTA DOESN'T CARE WHERE THE THEY JUST WANT THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR.
SO THAT SAYS WHETHER YOU KNOW HOW YOU GUYS SPLIT IT AMONGST YOURSELVES, YOU GUYS DETERMINE THAT.
AND THAT CONVERSATION BEGAN IN APRIL OF 23.
FIRST CONFERENCE CALL WITH TXDOT, GALVESTON TRANSIT AND THE TEXAS CITY PROVIDER.
AT THAT POINT, WE MADE THE OFFER.
WE CAME FORWARD AND SAID, GUYS, WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING EXTRA.
JUST GIVE US A STRAIGHT 5050 AND WE WILL DEAL WITH WHATEVER OCCURS AFTER THAT.
BOTH TXDOT AND GCT, TEXAS CITY PROVIDER, DECLINED.
AT THAT POINT IN MAY OF 23, THAT STUDY WAS DONE.
IT WAS BASED UPON MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES.
THEY TOOK A THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES OF GALVESTON AND TEXAS CITY.
AND BASED UPON POPULATION, IT CAME OUT THAT GALVESTON WOULD RECEIVE 52% OF THE FUNDING.
AND TEXAS CITY, WE RECEIVED 48.
SO TODAY EVERYBODY AGREED TO IT, SAY STATE FUNDING, STATE URBAN FUNDING WAS BASED UPON THAT APPORTIONMENT. WE RECEIVED THAT IN JUNE, ABOUT $450,000.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY APPORTIONED THAT OUT.
WE AT THAT POINT, WE WERE ALL GOING TO WAIT UNTIL CONGRESS PASSED THE APPROPRIATION BILL.
FDA HAS A RULE WHAT THEY CALL 512.
AND IT'S BASED UPON THE THEIR ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE EXPENDITURES WERE.
WE GOT THAT LATE FEBRUARY, AND THAT'S WHEN THE CONFERENCE CALLS STARTED AGAIN.
FIRST CONFERENCE CALL WILL GIVE ME A SECOND CONFERENCE CALL WITH TXDOT WAS IN MARCH OF 24.
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FOR THE PARTIAL APPORTIONMENT.AND THROUGH THAT CONFERENCE CALL, WE LEARNED THAT TXDOT PULLED THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT FROM THE TABLE AND CAME IN WITH A NEW METHODOLOGY FOR FOR THE APPORTIONMENT.
AND NOW HOW THEY DID THAT WAS SO DISAPPOINTING.
NO GROWTH. AND IT EVENTUALLY ESSENTIALLY CAME OUT TO A 72, 48 SPLIT.
AND WE IMMEDIATELY REJECTED THAT.
IT'S NOT DOESN'T TAKE ANYTHING IN ANY OF THE GROWTH, ANY OF THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE DOWN HERE IN TERMS OF TOURISM, IN TERMS OF THE POPULATION, TERMS OF THE TYPE OF SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE AND THE DENSITY, POPULATION DENSITY DOWN HERE.
IN LATE MARCH, EXCUSE ME, MARCH 31ST IS WHEN THE FINAL FULL APPORTIONMENTS WERE ANNOUNCED.
THERE'S 3.8, $3.858 MILLION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO COME TO THIS, COME TO THE UK.
ABOUT A WEEK AFTER THAT, APRIL, WE HAD THE THIRD CONFERENCE CALL WITH TXDOT AND GCDT AND TXDOT REVISED THE METHODOLOGY AGAIN, THIRD SET OF NUMBERS WE'RE THROWING THAT CAME AT US.
AT THAT POINT THEY WERE A LITTLE CLOSER, A LITTLE BETTER THAN WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
THEY UNDERSTOOD, ADDRESSED SOME OF OUR CONCERNS, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.
AND WE WENT BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT OVER A YEAR AGO.
LET'S JUST MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR EVERYBODY.
LET'S GO A STRAIGHT 5050 IN THAT.
AND THAT WAY IT TAKES CARE OF OUR GROWTH, TAKES CARE OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.
COME BACK A YEAR LATER AND TXDOT SAID, NO, WE'RE GOING TO REVISE THE METHODOLOGY.
AND WHEN THEY CAME BACK AND HOW THEY DID THIS, OUR LAST AWARD WAS IN 21.
WE SAID, WE'LL TAKE THAT AS YOUR BASE RATE.
TEXAS CITY'S LAST AWARD WAS IN 23, 2023, AND WE'LL TAKE THAT BASE RATE AND GIVE THAT A BASE RATE.
AND ANYTHING LEFT OVER GETS SPLIT 72, 48, 72% GOING TO TEXAS CITY, THE REST COMING TO GALVESTON.
ESSENTIALLY, I WOULD WE WOULD WIND UP WITH ALMOST WHAT WE HAD IN FY 21.
AND AGAIN, WE IMMEDIATELY REJECTED THAT.
IT DID NOT TAKE INTO ANY CONSIDERATION OF OUR POPULATION DENSITY, TYPE OF SERVICE THAT PROVIDED.
WE IMMEDIATELY AT THAT POINT STARTED THE CONTACT, MAYOR BROWN, OUR STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL, AND ENGAGED THEM AND BROUGHT THEM IN ON THIS, SAYING, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY AT STAKE.
AND IT'S CRITICAL BECAUSE CITIES OUR SIZE DON'T OPERATE TRANSIT SYSTEMS, THEY JUST DON'T.
AND WE SPEND A LOT, A LOT OF GENERAL FUND TAX MONEY ON OPERATING ISLAND TRANSIT.
AND THAT'S NOT THE TROLLEY'S AND ALL THAT I KNOW, YOU'LL HEAR THAT.
WHAT'S OUR DEFICIT BRIAN THAT WE'RE RUNNING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE PROBABLY WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE LEAN.
WE HAVE BEEN AT REDUCED SERVICES SINCE 2020.
I IMMEDIATELY REDUCED THE SERVICES AND IN 2020.
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PERIOD. WITHOUT THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO RUN INTO ISSUES.SO WHAT ARE WE RUNNING DEFICIT WISE? JOHNSON. RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT A 100, 100,000.
I'M RUNNING A LITTLE HOT ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE, MORE THAN I WOULD WANT ABOUT 100,000.
YES, SIR. YEAH, BUT THAT'S 100.
THAT'S OVER THE MILLION WE'RE PUTTING IN.
TRAFFIC THIS MORNING WAS JUST.
YEAH. COUNCILWOMAN ROBB HAD A QUESTION.
AND I READ THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SENT.
SO IS THERE A RIDERSHIP DIFFERENT THAN OURS? LIKE ACTUALLY, YES.
AND MY POINT IN SAYING GOING 5050, WE PROVIDE MORE RIDERSHIP, 25% MORE OVER OVER A FOUR YEAR TIME SPAN, OVER A FOUR YEAR PERIOD, 25% MORE.
OURS IS GROWING EXACTLY ARE IN.
TO DRIVE THE POINT HOME EVEN FURTHER, YOU LOOK AT THE 2020 CENSUS, THE WHOLE UZA IS 13% AS A POVERTY LEVEL, BUT OURS IS CITY OF GALVESTON IS 19.
THERE'S 119 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS IN THE ENTIRE UGA, 94 IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, OVER 65. IT'S 16% IN THE UGA.
SO WE WE CARRY A BIGGER BURDEN, RIGHT.
WE HAVE A BIGGER BURDEN THAT WE CARRY.
WE ARE DOING MORE WITH A WHOLE LOT LESS.
I HAVEN'T RECEIVED FUNDING IN TWO YEARS.
WE'RE GROWING RIDERSHIP WHILE DIMINISHING SERVICES, WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLE.
AND TO PUT AN EXCLAMATION ON THAT, WE'RE DOING IT BETTER AND WE'RE DOING IT MORE EFFICIENT.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, WE'RE GETTING MORE USAGE OUT OF IT.
RIGHT? YOU LOOK AT TEXAS CITY.
YEAH. AND THAT SERVICE AREA, THEY'RE BARELY MAKING ONE.
AND OUR PASSENGERS PER HOUR IS HOW MANY PASSENGERS.
HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY IT? THE POPULATION.
THEY'RE GOING STRICTLY ON POPULATION ALONE.
THEY AND I'M NOT DISPUTING THEIR POPULATION AND THEIR SERVICE AREA.
YEAH, 191,000 PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE UK.
ABOUT 58, 58, 58 OF IT IS HERE ON THE ISLAND.
THE REST IS THEIRS AND THEY SAY WE HAVE A BIGGER POPULATION.
YOU'RE NOT DOING MORE, WE ARE.
COUNCILMAN COLLINS, OH, GO AHEAD JOHN.
NO, GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN COLLINS, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? YEAH. NO, NO.
WE'RE OUT THERE WITH THE HELP OF ANYBODY THAT CAN HELP US TALKING TO OUR LEGISLATORS AND THINGS.
AND WHEN WE START DOING THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE IN THE LOOP.
THAT'S ALL. AND I'LL VOLUNTEER UP AT TPC I'VE WORKED FOR TXDOT FIVE YEARS.
I WORKED ON WRITING WHITE PAPERS ON FUNDING METHODOLOGIES AS WELL, SO I'D MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE THAT.
HAVING SOMEBODY WITH HIS EXPERTISE HAS BEEN WONDERFUL IN THIS.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.
I MEAN, WE ARE LOOKING TO CONTINUE THOSE SERVICES.
YES. AS LONG AS WE RECEIVE ADEQUATE FUNDING, IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE ADEQUATE FUNDING, I THINK COUNCILS ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME FUTURE COUNCILS ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF STARTING A ROUTE ON MONDAY AND ENDING IT ON FRIDAY, WHICH DOESN'T NECESSARILY SERVE ITS INTENDED PURPOSE, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN'T PROVIDE SERVICE THAT'S ADEQUATE FOR PEOPLE TO USE.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO SENSE IN DOING IT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DOING IT.
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YES, SHARON. AND MY MIND WAS GOING THE SAME DIRECTION.SO AT WHAT POINT DO YOU THINK IT WILL COME TO? WE OUR CONVERSATION, OUR LAST CONVERSATION WITH TXDOT, WE AGAIN REITERATED OUR ADVOCACY FOR THE 50/50 SPLIT.
AT THAT POINT THEY SAID WE WERE GOING THEY'RE GOING TO ENGAGE THE MPO H-GAP METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, WHICH AS I REACHED OUT TO COUNCILWOMAN ROBB, SHE SITS ON THE POLICY BOARD.
SO AT THAT POINT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR INPUT.
MY FEELING, MY SENSE OF THE WHOLE THING IS I THINK TXDOT AND GCDT ARE LOOKING FOR AN EXIT RAMP.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE HOW THEY HAVE THE SECOND ONE THE THIRD CONVERSATION AND THE NUMBERS.
IT'S CLOSER, IT'S CLOSE TO WHAT WE'RE ADVOCATING.
BUT OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
DON'T FORGET WE GOT TO LIVE WITH WHATEVER DECISION IS MADE.
WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS TO THE NEXT CENSUS.
SO OVER NINE, NINE, TEN YEAR PERIOD, GALVESTON CITY OF GALVESTON WILL LOSE OUT ABOUT $500,000.
SO FOR BUDGETING UNTIL THIS IS SETTLED THROUGH THAT, ARE WE GOING TO BE RUNNING THIS TRANSPORTATION FOR RESIDENTS AND TOURISTS? YES. UNTIL PROBABLY AT SOME REDUCED LEVEL, YES.
BUT WE'RE JAMES IS MANAGING THE BUDGET.
AND THE ONE THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH IS THE 7228.WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT OVER AGAIN OVER A 9-10 YEAR PERIOD, WE LOSE OUT ON IT TOO.
WE JUST MAKE IT SIMPLE AND GO 50/50.
AND WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING EXTRA, ANYTHING MORE.
AND JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE BUSSES ON THE STREET.
IS THERE A IS THERE A SCHEDULE OR A TIME FRAME BY WHICH YOU HAVE TO REACH RESOLUTION WITH TXDOT AND FTA ON THIS? NO, THERE IS ACTUALLY NOT.
THIS IS SOMEWHAT UNCHARTED AREA IN TERMS OF HOW FAR THIS HAS GONE.
USUALLY IT'S ALREADY AGREED UPON.
PRECEDENT WAS HAS BEEN SET NUMEROUS CASES AND NUMEROUS TIMES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
EVEN IN THE REGION, CONROE, WOODLANDS AND BRAZOS TRANSIT HAVE DID THE SAME THING.
IT WAS BASED UPON PERFORMANCE.
AND OUR THING WAS, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO 5050, THAT'S FINE.
LET'S DO PERFORMANCE BECAUSE WE YEAH, WE WOULD GET MORE THAN 50%.
THANK YOU. IF WE'RE RUNNING A DEFICIT, WHERE IS THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY COMING FROM WITHIN THE BUDGET.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT.
IT'S TIMING COUNCILMAN IT'S A LOT OF TIMING.
JAMES IS GOING TO TRY TO MANAGE IT TO A ZERO NUMBER BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S GOING TO COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
WELL, I MEAN I KNOW THAT OUR OUR GOAL IS AND HOW WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF THE FINANCE.
AND AGAIN, THE FRUSTRATION HERE IS WE HAD AN AGREED UPON NUMBER.
WE SET OUR BUDGET AT BASED ON THE AGREED UPON NUMBER, AND THEN THEY CHANGED IT MID-YEAR ON US.
AND SO I WANT TO MENTION TOO, THIS HAS BEEN A FULL COURT PRESS ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
MR. OLIVER'S BEEN GUIDING US ON THIS.
SALLY HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS QUITE A BIT.
A NUMBER OF OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.
THEY ARE STARTING TO GET INVOLVED IN HELPING WITH THIS, AS IS RANDY WEBBER'S OFFICE AND RANDY WEBER.
QUESTION. I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HGAC NOW FOR THEM TO GIVE INPUT ON THIS.
IF THEY COME BACK WITH A DECISION WE DON'T LIKE, WHERE DOES IT GO FROM THERE? IN THE CIRCULAR IT'S BOTH PARTIES IN A IN A SPLIT LETTER WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TXDOT'S ROLE IN THIS IS ACTUALLY A FACILITATOR NOT AN ARBITRATOR A FINAL ARBITER.
ANYTHING THAT GOES BACK TO FTA HAS TO GO THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
SO IN IT WOULD HAVE TO GO IT WOULD GO TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE EVENTUALLY.
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THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD GO.OKAY. WOULD YOU KEEP US UPDATED, PLEASE? AND WE DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY ON THIS SUBJECT BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE MANY CONSTITUENTS ASKING ABOUT THIS.
YOU DON'T WE DON'T NEED TO BE UPDATED, NECESSARILY.
WAITING FOR A COUNCIL MEETING.
IF YOU COULD BRIAN, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET UPDATED, KNOW WE'LL SEND PERIODIC.
BUT WE WANTED TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU FIRST, BUT THEN NOW WE CAN UPDATE YOU VIA EMAIL IF WE NEED TO.
IT ISN'T ON THE TBC AGENDA YET.
THE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT FOR IT TO HAVE ANY OFFICIAL STANDING, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TAC AND THEN TO THE POLICY BOARD BEFORE IT WILL COME, BEFORE IT WILL COME OUT.
AND THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
SO I WANTED TO GET SO WHO IS IT AT TXDOT THAT'S OVER THIS? ERIC GLEASON, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD. JANELLE, LET'S GO TO ITEM THREE D AS IN DAVID PLEASE.
[3.D. Discussion Of Planning Commission’s Recommendations For Broadway Improvements (C. Gorman – 20 Min)]
THREE D, DISCUSSION OF PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.WE HAVE CATHERINE GORMAN WITH US.
AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE WE HAVE TWO UNSUNG HEROES.
CATHERINE, HAVE A SEAT IF YOU WOULD.
THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN THE PRESENTATION.
CAN THEY COME TO THE TABLE? SURE, SURE.
COME ON UP AND HAVE A SEAT, IF YOU WOULD.
YOU GENTLEMEN WANT TO SIT HERE, AND THEN I'LL SIT.
THIS IS A HOT SEAT RIGHT HERE.
OKAY. AND, CATHERINE, HAVE A SEAT.
I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL, THESE.
I WAS GETTING READY TO SAY THESE ARE CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND VICE CHAIRMAN.
THEY A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT COME TO US, THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF EMOTION ATTACHED TO THEY HAVE BEEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE US AND HAVE TWICE AS MUCH EMOTION.
SO I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS.
CERTAINLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALSO COUNCIL I WANT TO MENTION TOO, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ITEM EIGHT B AND EIGHT C, THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA THAT IS SOMEWHAT TIED TO THESE BROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT CATHERINE IS GOING TO BRING TO US TODAY IS WE CAN DISCUSS ITEM EIGHT B AND EIGHT C IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT ALSO SHE'S GOING TO BE BRINGING OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US TO LOOK AT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT ARE OTHER ADDITIONAL APPROACHES TO THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR ON MAKING CHANGES THERE.
AND WHAT CATHERINE IS LOOKING FOR IS GUIDANCE FROM US ON THESE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS MORNING, WHICH ONES WE WOULD LIKE AS A COUNCIL FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, EVENTUALLY, TO GET MORE IN DETAIL AND BRING BACK MORE DETAILS FOR PARTICULAR STRUCTURE OF A PROGRAM FOR THAT.
MARISSA IS GOING TO PULL UP OUR POWERPOINT.
I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS HAD A QUESTION.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS DIRECTED BY CITY COUNCIL BACK IN THE FALL TO WORK ON BROADWAY, SPECIFICALLY ON THE DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH ARE THE STANDARDS UNDER WHICH NEW CONSTRUCTION IS CONSTRUCTED AND THEN PERMITTED USES AND ALSO VAPE SHOPS.
SO WE'VE COMPLETED OUR WORK ON VAPE SHOPS THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN FEBRUARY.
AND AND WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR WORK.
YOU'RE WELCOME. AND WE'VE COMPLETED OUR WORK ON THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND ON THE PERMITTED USES.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON.
THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS.
WE REVIEWED THE DEVELOPMENT HISTORY ON BROADWAY, THE HISTORY OF REGULATION ON BROADWAY, THE CURRENT REGULATIONS, AND THEN TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE CHANGES. SO IT WAS THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REALLY REALIZED THAT THE RULES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW ARE PRETTY GOOD AND CAN RESULT IN IN COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT ON BROADWAY.
WE DID DO SOME TWEAKS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THIS AFTERNOON.
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BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN REGULATING BROADWAY SINCE THE 1990S.WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE, THE CHANGE ON BROADWAY.
WE REVIEWED ALL OF THE RECENT CONSTRUCTION.
SINCE 2008, WE'VE HAD SEVEN BUILDINGS BUILT ON BROADWAY, SO THAT'S NOT A LOT.
SO THAT LED THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER THINGS COULD BE DONE.
AND THAT'S WHAT, AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE WERE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY.
SO RUSTY AND STEVEN ARE GOING TO GO OVER THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME SLIDES AT THE END ABOUT THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE PERMITTED USES.
AGAIN. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? AND I BROUGHT THIS IS A HANDOUT THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET BUT WAS PRETTY TINY.
SO I PRINTED OUT A NICE SIZED ONE FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE PERMITTED USES.
THANK YOU. THERE ARE HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS WHICH THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND VICE CHAIR WILL GO OVER.
ON THE BOTTOM AND ALSO DEVELOPS SOME MEDIUM PRIORITIES.
THOSE ARE ON THE BACK AND THEY'RE LABELED IN YELLOW AND THEN NOT RECOMMENDED.
WAS ONE ITEM CALLED AMORTIZATION.
THE COMMISSION WAS NOT INTERESTED IN IT.
WAS A SLEDGE HAMMER INTERESTED IN RECOMMENDING THAT.
BUT WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS CONSIDERED, BUT JUST NOT RECOMMENDED IN THE END, BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT TOPIC, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR OF WHAT AMORTIZATION IS.
AMORTIZATION CAN BE USED TO END NON-CONFORMING USES.
SO NON-CONFORMING USES IS WHAT PEOPLE REFER TO AS GRANDFATHERED.
LET'S SAY THAT THERE IS A CAR LOT.
IT'S NO LONGER ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
THE CITY CAN DETERMINE THROUGH A PROCESS THAT THE INVESTMENT HAS BEEN RECOUPED, THAT THAT NON-CONFORMING USE HAS REACHED THE END OF ITS INVESTMENT, OF ESTABLISHING RIGHT, THAT IT'S BEEN RECOUPED AND THAT ESTABLISHMENT NOW HAS TO END.
OKAY. SO LIKE I SAID, THAT'S A BIG HAMMER.
IT CAN BE USED FOR USES, BUT IT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS LIKE SIGNS AND FENCES.
IT COULD BE USED FOR SMALLER ITEMS. BUT AGAIN THE COMMISSION WAS NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE IT ON A JUMP BOX.
OH, OKAY. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF.
IT'S, FOR WHATEVER REASON, NOT TO SHOW NOT WANTING TO COME UP WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THEM.
I JUST DID WANT TO COMMENT THAT WHEN I SHOWED UP HERE, COUNCILMAN COLLINS GOES, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? I WILL SAY THAT PART OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION'S ONE OF OUR GOALS IS, IS THAT ITEMS THAT WE HAVE SIMILAR TO THIS, WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING COMING FROM COUNCIL TO US, AND THEN WE'RE PROVIDING IT BACK TO YOU GUYS FOR ACTION.
WE'RE SEEING THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE ESPECIALLY WE WOULD LIKE OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO, TO HAVE MORE INTERACTION WITH CITY COUNCIL ON THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS, NOT JUST AN UP OR DOWN.
JOHN HAS BEEN WONDERFUL IN HIS ROLE THERE, HELPING US.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, YOU YOU CAN COME SEE US ANYTIME.
PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU COME, WE MIGHT GIVE YOU AN EXTRA MINUTE, BUT IT IS PART OF OUR GOAL IS TO COME, YOU KNOW, TO SEE YOU GUYS ON AN OCCASION WHEN WE HAVE THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS. I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT RAPPORT.
SO THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF OUR REASONING FOR BE HERE.
CATHERINE INITIATED THIS KIND OF AT KIND OF AT MY REQUEST.
BUT THAT'S WHY THAT'S ONE REASON YOU'RE SEEING US WHERE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN US IN THE PAST.
CHAIRMAN RUSTY AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS.
YES, WE HAVE, BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE WORKING ON TOGETHER.
AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THIS APPROACH.
[01:25:03]
CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL BUSY, WE'RE VOLUNTEERS.AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WORK WE WORK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.
OKAY. NOW WE HAVE A POWERPOINT UP.
SO WE ALSO THROUGH THE WORKSHOP PROCESS, WE ALSO TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND SO THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HEARD ABOUT BROADWAY DEVELOPMENT AND ITS APPEARANCE THAT LIKE WE SAID, IT'S TOO DEPENDENT ON PRIVATE REDEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE TOO FEW NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TO REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF NON-CONFORMITIES.
THERE'S A LACK OF PROTECTION FOR HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF AUTOMOBILE ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHAT WE KEPT HEARING FROM THE FROM THE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, LIKE WE SAID, THE CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE STANDARDS ARE ARE PRETTY GOOD, THAT THERE'S DEVELOPMENT DEPENDENT ON PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE SOME KIND OF ACTION IF WE REALLY WANT TO SEE CHANGE ON BROADWAY.
AND SO THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR WILL GO THROUGH WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WE DID DISCUSS AT LENGTH WAS IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND 40TH STREET IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY LIKE TO SEE.
I HAD A QUESTION OF, HEY, HOW LONG DID IT ACTUALLY TAKE US TO GET THAT FROM START TO BEGINNING TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT IMPLEMENTED IN KEEPING IN MIND THAT BROADWAY IS A MUCH LONGER STREET? YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BECOME IT WOULD BE A VERY LONG AND DAUNTING TASK.
NOT THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS TO DO THAT.
SO WE'VE WE'VE ALSO GONE AS WE'LL GO TO THE CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO AND SOME WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE CONCEPTS AND I KIND OF LIKE TO BREAK IT INTO WE HAVE WHAT WOULD BE ON THE FAR EAST END FROM NINTH STREET, 10TH STREET CURRENTLY TO 19TH STREET, WHICH IS OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT, AND LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE I GO SHOPPING, THAT'S WHERE I GO TO THE RESTAURANTS.
AND THEN AND THEN, ODDLY ENOUGH, THE BROADWAY OVERLAY ZONE EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO THE CAUSEWAY, SO WE HAVE A SECTION THAT'S EVEN FURTHER OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF ANOTHER WORD, I CALL THAT THE FREEWAY ZONE.
SO BUT THIS IS WHERE SOME WORK WAS DONE IN PREVIOUS WITH CONSULTANTS ON, YOU KNOW, MAKING BROADWAY KIND OF THIS WALKABLE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND TO DO THAT FROM NINTH STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE CAUSEWAY.
THOUGH IT'S A GREAT IDEA, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT BECOMES WORKABLE.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT WERE DONE WITH THOSE WERE NOT IMPLEMENTED.
SO THIS HAS BEEN STUDIED EXTENSIVELY.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE PEELING BACK THE LAYERS OF AN ONION.
AND IT'S IT IS TRULY COMPLICATED.
THE BEST COMMENT THAT I HEARD WAS, WAS THAT WHEN THE ISLAND WAS WHEN THE CITY FOUNDERS CREATED THIS ESTIMATE, NOBODY DROVE HERE.
YOU CAME BY TRAIN OR YOU CAME BY BOAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, NOW THIS HAS BECOME SOMEWHAT OF A GATEWAY INTO OUR CITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME IT CERTAINLY CHANGED, BUT IT'S CREATED, YOU KNOW, ITS OWN PROBLEMS. SO CAN I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? WELL, MAYBE.
WAIT. WHERE IS SHE? THE HAND IS MOVING.
OH, IT'S DOWN HERE. OH, THERE WE GO.
SO ONE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING WAS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS, WE'VE HAD VERY LITTLE DEVELOPMENT IN THE, IN THIS AREA.
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AND ONE THING THAT WE WANTED TO BRING TO YOU GUYS FOR CONSIDERATION IS MAYBE TAKE THERE IS A SECTION THAT'S PROBABLY FROM 59TH STREET TO 46TH STREET, WHERE WE HAVE SOME LARGE CONTIGUOUS TRACTS.WE HAVE THE JUSTICE CENTER TRACK IS THERE.
WE HAVE THE COMPRESS TRACT IS THERE.
WE HAVE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, I THINK IS WHO HAS THAT PARCEL.
SO WE HAVE SOME LARGE CONTIGUOUS PARCELS IN THIS SECTION THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE DEVELOPED.
I'M PERSONALLY AND I WOULD TELL YOU SOMEWHAT, THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION WAS THAT WE WE NEED TO ENGAGE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, YOU KNOW, TO GET THINGS GOING.
AND SO POSSIBLY ONE THING MIGHT BE, IS TO CREATE SOME SORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ZONE.
WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN'T GET SOME SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU.
SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT DEVELOPMENT SECTION FROM 59 TO 46.
NEXT SLIDE. SO ANOTHER REALLY COOL THING AND STEPHEN WILL TOUCH ON THIS MORE, IS THAT SOME WORK WAS DONE IN 2018.
A CONSULTANT WAS HIRED ON ACTUALLY EXPANDING THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.
SO CURRENTLY IT ONLY ENCOMPASSES TEN BLOCKS FROM NINTH STREET TO 19TH.
OH. YOU DID. OKAY, THIS IS THE DISCONTINUATION OF.
OKAY, SO. AND THIS. SO HERE'S.
WE DID HERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER AND APPROVE IS CURRENTLY A LOT OF THESE USES ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR ARE GRANDFATHERED IN AND THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN.
A LOT OF THE FLOOD CONSTRUCTION, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE GRANDFATHERED IN AS WELL.
AND NOT NOT JUST THE USE BUT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION THAT'S ON THE ON THE SITE.
SO WE HAVE USES THAT ARE GRANDFATHERED.
AND YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THE CONSTRUCTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE USES IS GRANDFATHERED AS WELL.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A 365 DAY WINDOW.
IF YOU IN A PERFECT EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE POPEYES BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN SOME HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT WHERE WE HAVE A LOCATION THAT'S CLOSED AND THERE'S SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF THIS.
THERE'S THE SONIC THAT'S RIGHT OVER HERE AT 20, AROUND 30, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT STREET.
[INAUDIBLE] YEAH. SO THE ISSUE WITH THOSE, SOME PROBLEMS THAT THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GOING TO HAVE IS, IS NOW THAT THEY'VE DISCONTINUED THE USE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE BROADWAY STANDARDS.
AND CURRENTLY THE RULE IS, IS 365 DAYS.
WELL, WHERE WE HAVE USES AND TO KIND OF GET OFF YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF TALK ABOUT AS YOU GO FURTHER ABOUT ALL THE AUTOMOTIVE USES DOWN THERE, AND NOBODY LIKES THAT, BUT THOSE ALSO PROVIDING SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS.
SO AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A COMMENT THAT I'VE ALWAYS HAD IS THEY GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE.
SO IF YOU COMPLETELY REMOVE THEM WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO.
BUT WE HAD THOSE TYPES OF USES THAT THE GUY CLOSES DOWN HIS SHOP.
HE'S GOT A YEAR TO OPEN IT BACK UP.
THE PROPERTY DOESN'T SIT THERE VACANT FOR A YEAR.
OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE STANDARDS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HELP US WITH SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF USES.
SO IT MAKES THE MOST COMMON STANDARD THAT'S USED ACROSS THE STATE IS SIX MONTHS.
SO GALVESTON'S BEING VERY GENEROUS WITH THIS 365 DAYS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT 365 DAYS.
SO NOT ONLY DO THEY FALL OUT OF THE NONCONFORMANCE, BUT WOULD THEY THEN HAVE TO GO TO NEW FLOOD REGULATIONS? AND POSSIBLY YES, THEY POSSIBLY WOULD, AND THAT'S WHY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? POSSIBLY.
WELL, THE FLOOD REGULATIONS, THAT'S MORE BASED ON THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
YEAH. SO THE USE IN THE FLOOD AREN'T DIRECTLY RELATED.
YEAH. SO THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE.
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CHANGING THE 365 TO 6 MONTHS WOULD NOT CHANGE ANY OTHER UNDERLYING REGULATIONS ABOUT CODE COMPLIANCE.BUT IF THEY WERE DOING A RECONSTRUCTION AND IT WAS MORE THAN 51%, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO.
THOSE REGULATIONS ARE IN PLACE TODAY THOUGH, RIGHT? SO THIS DOES NOT CHANGE ANY ANY OF THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION.
AND KEEP IN MIND THE RECONSTRUCTION WOULD HAVE TO DO PROBABLY MORE SO WITH A CHANGE OF USE.
SO WE'RE SEEING THIS THESE SAME USES REPEATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T WANT TO FALL INTO HAVING TO GO REPURPOSE THEIR PROPERTY AND, AND GO TO, TO THE NEW STANDARD.
SO THAT IS ONE REASON WHY WE DON'T SEE MUCH DEVELOPMENT HERE, IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS I KNOW IF I PERSONALLY OWNED IT, I WOULD TRY AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S YEAH, IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
I NEED TO TAKE A BIG STEP BACK HERE AND ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT'S YOUR GOAL? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO HERE? BECAUSE WE, WE SPENT WELL, WE WE WATCHED WE WATCHED THE BROADWAY BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE SPEND THEIR WHEELS FOR TWO YEARS AND AND I NEVER GOT OUT OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO REBUILD THE INTERURBAN.
IS A REASON YOU'VE GOT 25 AUTOMOTIVE RELATED BUSINESSES ON THAT STREET.
AN ACQUAINTANCE OF MINE OPENED ONE OF THEM TEN, 12 YEARS AGO, AND HE SAID, ON 45TH STREET, HE SAID, ON 25TH STREET, HE SAID ON BROADWAY FOR FOR SEVERAL DAYS, COUNTING CARS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU WANT AN AUTOMOTIVE, YOU GO WHERE THE CARS ARE.
YEP. AND BROADWAY IS WHERE THE CARS ARE.
AND I MEAN, I GET WHY WHY WE HAVE THOSE BUSINESSES THERE AND SO SO WHAT'S YOUR GOAL? YOU'RE TRYING TO CHASE THEM OUT OR YOU WANT TO.
WELL THAT FIRST CERTAINLY GO FOR IT.
THIS WAS JUST A STEP IN THE DIRECTION OF MAKING SOME REVISIONS TO THE BROADWAY OVERLAY ZONE.
THIS DOES NOT SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS. THERE'S STILL THERE'S PROBABLY PROBABLY A LOT OF WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE ON BROADWAY.
I THINK THAT'S A BIG STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE SAW THE CURRENT REGULATIONS NOT REALLY DOING WHAT THEY INTENDED TO, I GUESS. AND YOU SEE EXAMPLES LIKE DOMINOES, DOMINOES FOLLOWED ALL THE REGULATIONS, REGULATIONS.
AND YOU GOT SO MANY COMPLAINTS ON DOMINOES.
AND THERE WERE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED BY THAT CONSTRUCTION THAT WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS.
AND I THINK THIS DOES ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN IT AND THEN IT KIND OF DIVIDES UP THE BROADWAY OVERLAY ZONE INTO DIFFERENT ZONES.
SO NOW WE'RE WE'RE CREATING THIS KIND OF SECOND ZONE THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT LESS RESTRICTIONS ON PUTTING BUILDINGS RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE MORE LANDSCAPING.
WE'VE WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME DRIVEWAY CONCERNS.
SO THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE HIT ON THIS.
OKAY. THIS IS NOT A BROADWAY IS GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL TOMORROW.
NO SITUATION. OR IF IT IS, IT IS JUST SOME REVISIONS TO IT.
AND I THINK ABANDONING THAT AREA BEYOND 59TH STREET IS PART OF THE OVERLAY ZONE WISE IDEA.
AND I CERTAINLY WOULD SUPPORT EXPANDING THE THE HISTORIC OVERLAY ALL THE WAY TO 33RD STREET OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST JUST FELL SHORT OF A CAR WASH ON A NEW CAR WASH ON 401 ACROSS THE STREET HERE WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A TERRIBLE USE FOR THAT, FOR THAT PROPERTY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE 49TH OR 45TH, WHATEVER THE 43RD, 40, 59TH, THAT AREA OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, PLANTING TREES IN FRONT OF THE COMPRESS GO A LONG WAY TO HELPING BEAUTIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE KNOW THAT AREA IN FRONT OF THE JUSTICE CENTER, THOSE BLOCKS HAVE BEEN SITTING OUT THERE UNUSED.
HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT DOING THAT? I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A BEAUTIFUL, A BETTER ENTRY INTO THE CITY, THAT'S THAT'S THE PLACE TO DO IT.
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BUT BUT WHAT? BUT WHAT WHAT STEPS DO WE TAKE HERE? AND THERE IS NO. AND THE PROBLEM IS, DAVID, IS THERE'S NO SILVER BULLET FOR THIS.THE OVERLAY WAS AN OVERLAY OVER THE WHOLE AREA.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST GOT THIS FROM YOU GUYS, THAT WAS MY I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? VERY NEBULOUS. AND QUITE HONESTLY, UNTIL WE KIND OF GOT TO THE VERY, VERY END OF IT, DIDN'T WE REALIZE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT SOME INFORMATION THAT I PERSONALLY THAT WE RECEIVED, LIKE THERE'S BEEN NO DEVELOPMENT THERE? WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO GO BEAUTIFY THAT WHOLE STREET.
I'D LOVE TO THINK THAT WE WOULD, BUT IT'S JUST IN REALITY IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO TAKING THE SECTIONS THAT ARE FURTHER OUT, THE FREEWAY ZONE THAT I'M CALLING AND LETTING THOSE USES, THE ZONING THAT'S TIED TO THAT PREDICATE, WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE IS A SIMPLE IT IT'S NOW LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S ZONED IN THE CITY.
SO IF YOU'RE IN IF YOU GOT A COMMERCIAL ZONE YOU GOT TO PLAY THE COMMERCIAL ZONE RULES IN THIS.
MY OBSERVATION WAS, WAS, HEY, WE DO HAVE A SECTION HERE THAT'S GOT SOME LARGE TRACTS.
THAT MAY BE ONE THING WE COULD DO.
AND DAVID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS WOULD EVEN LOOK LIKE, BUT WHAT COULD WE POSSIBLY DO TO ENTICE PRIVATE ENTERPRISE TO COME PARTICIPATE IN MAKING BROADWAY DIFFERENT? AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO.
FOR ONE, I'M I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF THOSE GUYS THAT ARE OVER THERE SELLING TIRES.
THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FEED THEIR FAMILY.
AND I'M, I'M I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF LEAVE THEM ALONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO, LIKE, CHIME IN ON THIS.
I HEARD THE MOST HORRIBLE THING YESTERDAY.
THE COUNTY TRACK BECOMING A U-HAUL STORAGE PLACE.
NOTHING BETTER THAN COMING IN TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE CITY.
AND WHAT'S THE FIRST IMPRESSION YOU GET IS EVERYBODY MOVES.
BECAUSE WHY ELSE WOULD THEY HAVE A STORAGE THING? BUT WHAT'S CAUSING THAT? IT'S THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THEM FOR DRAINAGE.
AND THERE'S BEEN TWO PEOPLE PULL OUT OF THAT BECAUSE IT TAKES UP SO MUCH OF THE ACREAGE.
SO HOW COULD WE RESOLVE THAT? MAYBE WE LOOK AT A TIRZ, OR MAYBE WE LOOK AT COMING OUT OF IT BECAUSE WE KNOW ANYONE WHO DEVELOPS THERE WITH WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO DO, IT'S GOING TO COST THEM AN EXTRA MILLION OR TWO.
YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT FOR FOREVER.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD.
BUT AND WE HAD SOMEBODY THAT WAS PUTTING IN A BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT.
AND BECAUSE THEY LOSE SO MUCH WITH THAT DRAINAGE REQUIREMENT.
SO HOW DO WE RESOLVE THAT, YOU KNOW, DOING AN ECONOMIC OR DOING A TIRZ, DOING SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THAT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST THEM TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE ONE WAY TO RESOLVE IT.
AND I REALLY SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING HERE, LIKE WITH THE WHY DO WE GIVE EVERYBODY A YEAR WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE GIVES THEM A HALF A YEAR? I MEAN, THINGS THAT ARE SIMPLE, BUT THAT ZONE WHERE YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE THE PIECES OF OUR LAND, YOU KNOW, OUR ENTRANCE TO OUR CITY.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE THAT'S JUST ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.
YOU HAVE A GREAT QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO HERE? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE FIRST GUYS WHO'VE LOOKED AT THIS.
THIS HAS BEEN DONE FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME IN MANY, MANY TIMES.
THESE ARE JUST SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF, HEY, FOR SURE, THIS STUFF THAT'S OUT ON THE FREEWAY THAT NEEDS TO BE OUT, POTENTIALLY THIS AREA FROM 59TH TO 43RD OR WHATEVER THAT STREET, WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH.
MAYBE THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE COULD GENERATE SOME ACTIVITY, THE MERCHANT ZONE.
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WE HAVE PROBLEMS TO FIX BEFORE WE MESS WITH THAT.WELL, AND I THINK WE WANT TO WE NEED TO SUPPORT THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS IS ON A SLIDE, BUT WE HAVE A DEAL WHERE WHAT WAS JOHN'S IDEA? CELEBRATE BROADWAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE DESIGN COMMITTEE THAT WENT ON HERE MANY YEARS AGO.
ON BRINGING FORTH A LOT OF DEFINITE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD.
BUT I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT THAT THAT GETS BETTER, THAT WE PUT OUR ATTENTION TO.
AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO PUT OUR ATTENTION TO BROADWAY.
I THINK THESE STEPS ARE A GOOD STEP FORWARD.
THESE ARE STEPS THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT WILL HAVE A CHANGE OUT THERE ON BROADWAY.
AND I THINK IF WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES ON BROADWAY UNDERSTAND MORE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING AN ENTRYWAY THAT IS ATTRACTIVE.
AND AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD.
THE ECONOMIC THAT'S SOMETHING MICHELLE COULD WORK WITH AND LOOK AT FROM A STANDPOINT OF BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL THOSE PACKAGES THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR BROADWAY AND THE THE SITUATION AS FAR AS THE CELEBRATE BROADWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING OPERATIONALLY WE CAN DO NOW.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT STAFF AND WORKING CAN CAN DO NOW.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD.
AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN SOME DEFINITE IDEAS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM PROPERLY.
THAT THAT I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WE HAD JOHN PRODDING US THE WHOLE TIME.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO SUGGEST IT WAS I DON'T KNOW.
AND THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT WE REALLY NEED.
IT'S LIKE, WELL WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO.
WELL IT WAS A IT WAS A HUGE ELEPHANT WHEN IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO US.
IT'S LIKE, WOW, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS THING? AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT BEYOND BEYOND 59TH STREET, TXDOT'S ABOUT DIG A BIG HOLE IN THAT.
EVENTUALLY MAYBE A COUPLE MORE YEARS, MAYBE SO SOMEDAY.
I MEAN, EVERYONE HAS REDONE THAT, AND BY ITSELF IT'S IMPROVED.
BUT IF WE DON'T FIX THIS ISSUE, WE HAVE BETWEEN 59TH AND 40 ESPECIALLY LIKE WHEN I HEARD THAT YESTERDAY, I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD, I AM GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WILL NEVER, EVER HAPPEN.
BECAUSE WHAT A HORRIBLE IMPRESSION TO GIVE PEOPLE.
AND IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, LIKE, LET'S TALK ABOUT SELLING THEM THAT OLD INCINERATOR LAND THAT DOESN'T NEED I MEAN, THAT JUST DRIVES ME CRAZY BECAUSE JOHN AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS JUST BEFORE THE MEETING.
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PROJECTS VIABLE WHEN THAT WAS A TURN OF THAT PROPERTY IN THE USE.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.