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[00:00:02]

ALL RIGHT, IT'S 2:30 AND WE'LL GET THE WORKSHOP THE 2:30 WORKSHOP FOR THE GALVESTON PLANNING COMMISSION.

[1. Call Meeting to Order]

CALL THAT TO ORDER.

WE'VE TAKEN ATTENDANCE.

WE'VE SIGNED IN.

AND ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEM.

[4.A. Discussion Of Direction From City Council To The Planning Commission Regarding Permitted Uses And Design Standards For Broadway. (Staff)]

CATHERINE. OKAY.

WE ARE HOPEFULLY TONIGHT, TODAY, FINISHING UP OUR DISCUSSION ON BROADWAY.

CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THANK YOU. OKAY, SO AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL TO WORK ON BROADWAY, REVIEWED THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE PERMITTED USES, A PERMITTED USE CHANGES AND BROADWAY RECOMMENDATIONS WERE APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION ON APRIL 2ND.

SO THAT WORK THAT PART OF YOUR WORK IS DONE AND THAT THOSE WILL BE REVIEWED BY CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 25TH.

THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS CHANGES WERE DEFERRED TO TODAY IN ORDER TO MAKE A COUPLE MORE MODIFICATIONS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TODAY.

WE WILL REVIEW THE PROPOSED BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARD CHANGES.

SO AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WERE WE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WERE DEVELOPED BY THE COMMISSION AND STAFF.

THEY WERE MOSTLY ORGANIZATIONAL AND CLARIFICATIONS.

THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN CLOSING THE RES/REC LOOPHOLE THAT NOT ALL OF BROADWAY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.

SOME OF IT IS ZONED RES/REC.

SO TODAY THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE WILL DISCUSS.

SOME CHANGES FOR MODIFY THE AREA THAT THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS APPLY TO.

TALK ABOUT CURB CUTS, FRONT YARD SETBACKS AND PARKING LOCATION.

AND SO THESE CHANGES ARE REFLECTED IN THIS STAFF REPORT THAT WAS HANDED OUT TO YOU TODAY.

SO WE'LL REVIEW THESE AT THE WORKSHOP AND THEN HOPEFULLY VOTE ON THIS AT THE REGULAR MEETING TODAY.

OKAY. SO THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS CURRENTLY THEY APPLY ALL ALONG BROADWAY, THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR FROM 19TH STREET TO THE CAUSEWAY FROM 59TH STREET TO THE CAUSEWAY, IT'S THE NORTH SIDE OF BROADWAY, ONLY THE SOUTH SIDE.

EXCUSE ME. THE SOUTH SIDE IS LOCATED IN THE HEIGHT DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ZONE, THE HDDZ, WHICH IS ITS OWN DESIGN OVERLAY.

IT'S MORE SPECIFIC THAN THE BROADWAY STANDARDS.

AND SO THE THE HDDZ APPLIES TO THE SOUTH SIDE.

THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE AREA FROM 19TH STREET TO THE CAUSEWAY TO 19TH STREET TO 59TH STREET.

SO 59TH STREET IS THE CROSS STREET WHERE THE POST OFFICE IS.

AND THERE'S REALLY A BIG CHANGE OF CHARACTER THERE AT 59TH STREET, GOING WEST UNTIL YOU GET TO THE CAUSEWAY.

THAT'S REALLY SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S THE FEEDER ROAD OF I45.

IT IS NOT A PEDESTRIAN, WALKABLE AREA, NOR DO WE EVER ENVISION THAT IT WOULD BE.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE APPLICATION AREA, REDUCE IT FROM 19TH STREET TO 59TH STREET.

AND THEN TO ESTABLISH AN INTERNAL ZONE, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IS THAT THE STANDARDS SAME STANDARDS MIGHT NOT APPLY TO ALL OF BROADWAY.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING AN INTERNAL ZONE FROM 27TH STREET TO 59TH STREET.

AND WE'LL TALK IN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHANGES PROPOSED FOR THAT AREA.

SO THIS IS JUST A SLIDE SHOWING THE EXTENT OF THE BROADWAY STANDARDS.

SO IT'S THAT BLACK LINE COMING ALL THE WAY FROM 59TH TO THE CAUSEWAY.

AND THEN SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO END IT THERE AT 59TH STREET.

OKAY. SO THERE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT PROPOSAL? DO WE HAVE EASILY AVAILABLE A PRINTED MAP THAT SHOWS US THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS? THIS MAP IS A ZONING MAP? IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT IF YOU GO BACK, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S NO THERE'S NOT A CLEAN ONE.

NO, IT'S A STATIC IMAGE.

SO THIS YOU CAN SEE IT'S MOSTLY ALMOST 100% RED, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL.

OKAY. THOSE POCKETS OF GREEN ARE THE AREAS THAT ARE ZONED RESORT RECREATION.

THE RES/REC. SO THOSE ARE LIMITED.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF BROADWAY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.

BUT JUST A BLOCK OR SO ON EITHER SIDE.

IT'S JUST ABOUT A BLOCK ON EITHER SIDE.

YEAH, IT GENERALLY GOES TO THE ALLEY, THE EAST WEST ALLEYS ON EITHER SIDE OF BROADWAY.

THE EAST END IS THE, GREEN PART WHERE THAT LINE STOPS IS THE EAST END HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THAT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S WHERE THE BLACK LINE STOPS.

WHERE THE BLACK LINE STOPS, YES.

SO THAT'S THE.

SO THAT TAKES US FROM 19TH STREET TO 10TH STREET AS RESIDENTIAL R-3, AND THEN PICKS UP AFTER THAT AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS KIND OF A MIXED ZONE BETWEEN SOME RESIDENTIAL AND SOME COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN THE VERY TAIL END WHERE BROADWAY AND SEAWALL COME TOGETHER IS ZONED COMMERCIAL AGAIN.

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CATHERINE, CAN YOU GO BACK A SLIDE? SO CURRENT.

PROPOSED IS FROM 19.

RIGHT. SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO END IT AT 59TH STREET.

AND THEN SO ONLY THE COMMERCIAL STANDARDS WOULD APPLY FROM 59TH STREET TO THE CAUSEWAY.

SO PRETTY MUCH ELIMINATING THE I-45 FEEDER ROAD SECTION OF BROADWAY.

AND THERE'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT IS HDDZ.

YOU HAVE, I'M ASSUMING THAT MOST OF THAT IS COMMERCIAL.

YES, BOTH SIDES OF THAT. IT'S MOSTLY COMMERCIAL WITH SOME LIMITED RES/REC.

OKAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CONFUSING ME HERE, THOUGH.

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. OKAY.

SO CURRENTLY 19TH TO THE CAUSEWAY IS THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS.

19TH UP FROM 19TH TO 59TH YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE.

KARINA IF YOU'LL GO.

NOW. THAT'S RIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE COMING OVER THE CAUSEWAY IT WOULD, WOULDN'T START UNTIL 59TH STREET.

THE OVERLAY ZONE THERE.

AND THEN THE INTERNAL ZONE WOULD BE FROM 27TH TO 59TH.

OKAY. I'M CLEAR.

ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO THE INTERNAL ZONE? OKAY, YES I AM, IT'S NEXT.

I WAS JUST A LITTLE SLOW.

IT TOOK ME A LITTLE WHILE. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO BUT JUST WHERE THE BLACK LINE ENDS AND WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH SEAWALL AND SIXTH STREET AND ALL THAT, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S NOT A NO MAN'S LAND. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT ZONING.

BUT THERE ARE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT SECTION OF BROADWAY UNTIL YOU GET TO SIXTH STREET.

SO THAT'S JUST WHATEVER THAT ZONING IS AND HOW IT APPLIES THERE.

RIGHT YEAH. SO THE REGULATIONS DON'T CURRENTLY APPLY IN THAT LOCATION AND WE WEREN'T PROPOSING TO APPLY THEM THERE.

OKAY. SO YES, THEY'D BE JUST GOVERNED BY THE EXISTING ZONING CATEGORIES WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL WE'LL THEN GO ON AND TALK ABOUT THE INTERNAL ZONE.

SO FROM 27TH STREET TO 59TH STREET CURRENTLY THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS ZERO FEET.

AND THERE'S A BUILD TO LINE WHICH REQUIRES THAT 70% OF THE BUILDING BE BUILT ON THE BROADWAY PROPERTY LINE.

SO WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES OF THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO STRICT.

AND WHEN YOU END UP IS WITH, IS THIS BUILDING LIKE THE DOMINO'S WHERE THERE'S A KIND OF A HARSH KIND OF INTERACTION BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AREA AND THE BUILDING.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO BECOME MORE FLEXIBLE IN THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT THAT THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT WOULD BE THREE FEET MINIMUM TO A FIVE FOOT MAXIMUM. SO THAT GIVES PEOPLE 3 TO 5FT IN WHICH TO BUILD THE BUILDING.

SO WE STILL WANT THE BUILDINGS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

BUT THEN THAT SETBACK AREA WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE LANDSCAPED WITH GRASSES AND SHRUBS.

SO ON THE 21ST STREET SIDE OF DOMINO'S, THAT'S THE CONDITION THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TO ALLOW FOR.

SO IF YOU SEE ON THE 21ST STREET SIDE, WHERE RIGHT UNDER WHERE THE DOMINO'S SIGN IS, THE BUILDING IS SET BACK A FEW FEET AND THAT AREA IS LANDSCAPED.

AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT SOFTER AND INTERACTION THERE.

SO THAT THIS CHANGE WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT KIND OF CONDITION WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE BUILDING CLOSE TO THE STREET, BUT YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO DO SOME LANDSCAPING IN THAT AREA.

AND THEN WE WOULD RETAIN THE REQUIREMENT THAT 70% OF THE BUILDING BE AT THE FRONT SETBACK.

SO NOT THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR BUILDING.

YOU CAN STILL MOVE A LITTLE BIT OF IT A LITTLE FURTHER BACK.

GOOD QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EXPANDING THE HISTORICAL.

DOES THAT GO INTO IT'S GOING TO GO FROM 19TH EXPANDED FROM 19TH TO 27TH.

27TH. YEAH. IT WAS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE YES. THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.

OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PICKING UP THEN AT 27TH STREET, HOPEFULLY EAST OF 27TH STREET WILL BE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT PROPOSAL TO BUFFER IT WITH LANDSCAPING? WHAT WAS YOUR CONCERN? NO, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.

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OKAY. BUT THERE'S MORE TO THIS, RIGHT? THERE IS? YEAH.

THERE'S. AND THERE'S MORE.

[LAUGHTER] SO THERE'S ALSO BEEN TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ALLOWING FOR SOME PARKING IN THE FRONTS OF BUILDINGS.

AND SO CURRENTLY THERE'S NO PARKING ALLOWED IN THE FRONT HAS TO BE IN THE SIDE OR THE REAR.

SO THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS WHAT'S CALLED TEASER PARKING, WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.

YOU STILL HAVE THE BULK OF YOUR PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING THAT CAN BE ALLOWED IN FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE.

SO IF AND THIS WOULD BE AT THE CHOICE OF THE DEVELOPER.

IF THEY CHOSE TO PROVIDE THIS TEASER PARKING, THEN THEIR FRONT SETBACK IS INCREASED TO 40FT, GIVING THEM ENOUGH SPACE TO DO MEET THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AND PROVIDE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING.

AND THEN RETAINING AGAIN THE 70% OF THE BUILDING AT THE FRONT SETBACK.

SO YOU'RE STILL GETTING A BUILDING FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE STREET, BUT GIVING THE POSSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THIS TEASER PARKING.

HAS ANYBODY EVER TRIED PARKING AT LA MICHOACANA? THAT FRONT PARKING LOT.

IT'S TIGHT.

INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.

SO I LIKE THE CONCEPT, BUT IT'S TOUGH.

LIKE, THIS IS AN ALLOWANCE.

YES. OKAY.

SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO ALL THEIR PARKING IN THE BACK THEY COULD STILL DO THAT.

SO OKAY. AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS JUST SINGLE ENTRY PARKING.

AND THE MICHOACANA IS YOU KNOW DOUBLE ENTRY.

AND IT IS VERY TIGHT.

AND I JUST PARK ON 33RD STREET AND GET MY AVOCADO AND COME BACK.

BUT YEAH.

SO SO THIS I THINK IS MORE FLEXIBLE WOULD BE EASIER TO MANEUVER THAN THE SITUATION YOU'RE THINKING OF.

AND THEN WE'D WIDEN IT WOULD ALLOW IT UP TO A 25 FOOT CURB CUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

RIGHT. YEAH. AND I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT IT.

OKAY SORRY.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING OR FRONT SETBACK OKAY.

AND SO THEN WE'D ALSO HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT ALLOWING FOR MORE CURB CUTS, MORE FLEXIBILITY AND CURB CUTS.

SO CURRENTLY IF YOU HAVE ACCESS IF YOU'RE ON BROADWAY, BUT YOU HAVE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT.

SO IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER, IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER AND YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE NUMBERED STREET, THEN IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A CURB CUT ON BROADWAY.

CURB CUTS ANOTHER NAME FOR A DRIVEWAY.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO ALLOW FOR CURB CUTS ON BROADWAY, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIZE IS LIMITED.

SO ONE WAY CURB CUTS WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM WIDTH OF 12FT, AND TWO WAY CURB CUTS WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM WIDTH OF 25FT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THIS.

THE FIRST SENTENCE SAYS CROSS ACCESS EASEMENTS REQUIRE.

THAT'S CURRENT.

I MEAN YEAH THE CURRENT ONE. YEAH.

WITH ACCESS PROVIDED FROM BROADWAY.

MAXIMUM TWO CURB CUTS.

THAT. SO? BUT THEN THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE AND THE CURRENT ONES THAT SAY THAT IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER LOT, YOU CANNOT HAVE.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT SECOND BULLET WHERE ALTERNATIVE ACCESS IS AVAILABLE.

AND SO THAT'S A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE A CORNER LOT AND YOU HAVE ACCESS ONTO A NUMBERED STREET.

OKAY. AND THEN THE PROPOSED IS THE MINIMUM CURB CUTS.

SO WOULD WE HAVE A MINIMUM OR.

I'M SORRY, OR A MAXIMUM ON LOTS THAT WANT TO DRIVE AWAY ON BROADWAY BUT ARE ON A CORNER.

THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT.

I KNOW IT WOULD ALLOW FOR IT, BUT WOULD YOU STILL WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THEM, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT RESTRICTED IN THE SENSE THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE TWO CURB CUTS WITH A MAX OF 25FT ON A CORNER LOT.

YES. SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WELL, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO JUST ESTHETICALLY, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO ENTRANCES OF 25FT, 50 FOOT OF DRIVEWAY ON BROADWAY IF YOU HAD ACCESS TO A SIDE STREET.

YEAH. AND SO WE COULD KIND OF PUT THESE TOGETHER WHERE ALTERNATIVE ACCESS IS AVAILABLE.

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THEN WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ON BROADWAY IF YOU HAVE.

I THINK A MAX, A MAX CURB CUT OF 25FT ON BROADWAY IF YOU HAD ACCESS AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE ACCESS AVAILABLE.

SO SINGLE. ONE SINGLE, ONE SINGLE CURB CUT.

THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING OKAY.

IN MY OPINION. SO YOU COULD IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER, YOU COULD HAVE A SINGLE 25 FOOT CURB CUT ON BROADWAY, AS WELL AS HAVE CURB CUTS ON.

NUMBERED STREET.

YEAH. OR YOU CAN STILL HAVE THE TWO 12 FOOT IF YOU HAVE IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO IF WE'RE ON A CORNER DOES THE COMMISSION THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW FOR THE ONE WAYS.

I WOULD. DO YOU THINK TO HAVE TWO.

YES. IF IT'S A ONE WAY CIRCUMSTANCE.

YES, YES. SO? SO A MAX OF A 25 FOOT CURB CUT, YOU COULD HAVE TWO 12 FOOT CURB CUTS.

RIGHT. BUT YOU BUT YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 25 FOOT ON BROADWAY IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO.

YES.

RIGHT. RIGHT.

YEAH. YOU COME IN ONE DRIVE.

YEAH. ONE.

ONE IS IN, ONE IS OUT.

YEAH I MEAN THAT'S IT'S STILL 25FT.

IT'S LESS THAN 25FT.

SO WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKES.

RIGHT. IT'S THE SAME.

IT'S JUST OH THEN I'M JUST THINKING OF IT ON A CORNER.

YEAH. THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THAT.

AND TRAFFIC AT A CORNER WITH A LIGHT AND ON BROADWAY.

BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT REALLY MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE.

IF YOU'D HAVE A 25 FOOT. I THINK THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO OVERSIGHT WITH TXDOT ON THIS AS WELL.

I MEAN, THIS IS A STATE HIGHWAY AND TEXAS DOES OVERSEE GRANT GIVE ACCESS TO THESE CURB CUTS.

IS THAT AM I CORRECT ON THAT? YES THEY DO.

AND THERE ARE ALSO REGULATIONS THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SAFETY, CITING SAFETY, SITE SAFETY FROM AN INTERSECTION AND THEN ALSO MINIMUM DISTANCES FROM EACH OTHER.

OKAY. SO THERE ARE OTHER THERE'S YEAH.

ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT ON THIS.

THERE IS FOR SURE.

THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YES.

OKAY. OKAY. SO I HAVE THAT NOTE AND WE CAN MAKE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION COULD MAKE IN YOUR MOTION AT THE REGULAR MEETING TO ADOPT AS PRESENTED WITH THIS ADDITIONAL CHANGE FOR ALLOWING FOR.

SO WE WANT TO ALLOW UP TO TWO CURB CUTS NO WIDER THAN 12FT, PROVIDED THEY ARE ONE WAY ACCESS OR A SINGLE CURB CUT WITH A MAX WIDTH OF 25FT.

YES. OKAY. AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH ALTERNATIVE ACCESS IS AVAILABLE.

AND OBVIOUSLY AND THAT'S KIND OF CIRCUMSTANCE WHEN YOU HAVE A I'M SORRY, WHEN YOU HAVE A ONE WAY DRIVE, THAT CAN BE CONFUSING AND PEOPLE COULD PULL INTO THE OUTBOUND LANE BY ACCIDENT.

SO I THINK WHAT SHOULD ALSO GO ALONG WITH THIS IS SOME, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT SIGN.

YEAH. SIGNAGE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OUTBOUND ONLY OR INBOUND OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE WOULD I GUESS I'M NOT CLEAR ABOUT EXACTLY HOW WE WOULD DO THAT SIGNAGE, BUT SIGNIFICANT SIGNAGE SHOULD BE MANDATED SO THAT THERE'S NOT ISSUES WHERE PEOPLE ARE STOPPING UP IN BROADWAY TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF SOMETHING LIKE.

DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.

OKAY, OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAD TO DISCUSS.

I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST GOING TO BE NEXT STEPS.

OKAY. SO AFTER KIND OF SLEEPING ON THIS YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF STARTED OFF WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS WITH OUR YOU DID SUCH A GREAT JOB WITH OUR STICKING CARROT APPROACH.

AND ONE THING THAT'S REALLY STUCK IN MY MIND IS THAT IN THE PAST ALMOST DECADE, WE HAVE HAD, WHAT, TEN BUILDING PERMITS? VERY FEW.

AND SO THAT WE'RE STOPPING AT 59TH STREET.

AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS WOULD BE RECEIVED, BUT IT COULD BE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A LARGE TRACT IN FRONT OF THE JUSTICE CENTER.

YOU'VE GOT A LARGE TRACT WHERE THE MOODY COMPRESS IS.

I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOREVER, BUT IT IS A LARGE CONTIGUOUS TRACT.

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I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS WHERE THE HOUSING STUFF IS, WHERE THE GLOBE USED TO BE.

THA OWNS THAT. YEAH.

DO THEY OWN THAT? OKAY.

BUT ONE THOUGHT I HAD IS WE KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE STRETCH THERE WHERE WE HAVE SOME LARGE TRACTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED. DO WE ACTUALLY GO, HEY, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO.

YOU KNOW, I GET IT FROM 59TH OUT TO THE TO THE CAUSEWAY, BUT DO WE WANT TO POSSIBLY LOOK AT PROVIDING A DEVELOPMENT ZONE OF MORE OF A, FOR LACK OF ANOTHER WORD, A MORE SUBURBAN FRIENDLY DEVELOPMENT ZONE, SAY FROM 59TH TO I THINK THE COMPRESS IS ON 43RD SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

SO IT'S JUST A THOUGHT WE'D NEVER REALLY DISCUSSED.

HEY, HOW COULD WE GO ADJUST OUR STANDARDS SO IT BECOMES MORE DEVELOPER FRIENDLY IN LIEU OF, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE OUR STICK, BUT WE'VE ONLY GOT A FEW CARROTS IN LIEU OF, HEY, WE'LL COME PLANT THE CARROTS FOR YOU.

SO IT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED, BUT MAYBE TAKING OUR 59TH TO THE CAUSEWAY STUFF AND THEN EXTEND EVEN FURTHER IN FROM, SAY, 59TH.

AND I'M JUST THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE TO 43RD STREET, WHERE WE HAVE THESE TRACTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED AND OFFERING SOME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD BE, BUT MAKING IT MORE USER FRIENDLY THAT PERHAPS WE WOULD GET SOME INTEREST IN DEVELOPMENT THERE.

I MEAN LET ME SEE IF THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU HAD MAYBE TIED THAT TO YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY PULLING THAT ZONE BACK EVEN FURTHER.

I'M TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY EVEN PULLING IT BACK EVEN FURTHER INSTEAD OF STOPPING AT 59TH.

AND IF WE STILL WANTED, I MEAN, IT IS KIND OF THE GATEWAY OF THE CITY AND MAYBE STILL HAVING MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SOME LANDSCAPING RESTRICTIONS IN THERE, BUT ALL THIS CURB CUT STUFF. AND LET ME THROW ANOTHER IDEA.

IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD PUT SOMETHING IN, TIE IT TO ACREAGE? SO IF YOU HAD FIVE ACRES, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT IF A DEVELOPER HAD FIVE ACRES THEY COULD POSSIBLY COME WITH TO US TO PLANNING OR COUNCIL WITH MORE OF A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT TRACK, AND THEY WOULD BE FREE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS SAY.

SO SAY IF SAY, IF YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE TRACT IN FRONT OF THE JUSTICE CENTER, WHICH I THINK THAT'S ABOUT EIGHT ACRES, YOU WOULD KNOW.

13 ACRES TOTAL AND 10% UP FOR SALE BY THE COUNTY.

SO IF WE GOT TEN PLUS ACRES THERE AND THEN THE MOODY COMPRESS TRACK IS ALMOST 20 ACRES.

YEAH. IF YOU TOOK ALL THEIR PROPERTY PLUS ADDITIONAL ACREAGE AROUND THEM FOR OTHER, OTHER COMPRESSES.

AND HOW I SEE IT, JOHN, IS WE HAVE KIND OF A SECTION FROM THE CAUSEWAY TO 59TH STREET THAT IS KIND OF A COMMERCIAL ZONE.

THEN WE HAVE KIND OF WHERE THIS ZONE FROM 59TH TO 43RD.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER WHERE WE HAVE THESE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TRACKS I'M GOING TO CALL THEM THAT.

AND THEN FROM 43RD TO 27TH, I'VE ALWAYS CONSIDERED THAT MORE OF A MERCHANT ZONE.

THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THESE LOCAL MERCHANTS HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER AND A DAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT THE BEST WE CAN.

BUT HOW DO WE GET HOW DO WE CHANGE IT FROM HAVING TEN DEVELOPMENT DEALS IN TEN YEARS? WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULDN'T SAY THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT QUESTION.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S NOT MY SPECIALTY.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COULD BE A PUD.

YOU KNOW. IT COULD.

YEAH. A PUD IS THE TOOL FOR DEVIATIONS.

AND IT SHOULD BE USED FOR LARGER MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENTS.

SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD APPLICATION OF A PUD.

AND LOOK WE'VE IT'S JUST A THOUGHT AND I'M NOT IT'S A DISCUSSION AND IT'S JUST MERELY A THOUGHT OF HEY DO WE WANT TO.

DO WE EVEN WANT TO GO THERE? BUT I'M.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I UNDERSTAND THE PUD ASPECT OF IT, BUT MY ONLY COMMENT TO THAT EXCELLENT THOUGHTS. BUT THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS WORKING ON THAT PARTICULAR CORRIDOR THAT I REALLY THINK AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED CORNER.

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YOU HAVE A HISTORIC PROPERTY OLEANDER.

FACTORS. [INAUDIBLE].

AND I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING IS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD AS A COMMISSION, WE COULD MAKE THAT AS A, YOU KNOW, HEY, HERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSION. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT PERHAPS WE IF YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO STUDY SOMETHING ELSE, WE CAN STUDY THIS AREA AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ZONE. SO IT'S WOULD JUST MERELY BE A RECOMMENDATION.

THE COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON THAT.

BUT I'M AFTER STEPPING BACK FROM THIS.

I THINK IF YOU WANT MORE OF A COHESIVENESS FOR THE AREA, IT MAY BE NICE TO COME UP WITH.

AND I AGREE.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SILVER BULLET FOR ANY OF IT, BUT WHAT I AND ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS, WE NEVER REALLY DISCUSSED.

OKAY, WHAT COULD WE DO WITH THIS TO ENTICE SOMEBODY TO COME HAVE PRIVATE FUNDS AND PRIVATE ENTERPRISE BE INVOLVED IN MAKING THE CHANGE? AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT FINANCIAL INCENTIVES, WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON EXISTING PROPERTIES AND HOW TO IMPROVE THOSE RATHER THAN THESE DEVELOPABLE PIECES OF PROPERTY.

SO WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE COULD? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT MAKING THAT JUST AS A RECOMMENDATION? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE.

YEAH. I DO UNDERSTAND, AND BUT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO COME UP WITH SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR BROADWAY.

RIGHT. AND AND AS WE DISCUSSED, THE THE REASON TO HAVE A PUD IS TO IF YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN AND WANTS AN EXCEPTION TO WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACK AROUND AND WE'RE GOING TO START TAKING PIECES OF BROADWAY AND MAKING DIFFERENT RULES FOR DIFFERENT PIECES OF IT, WHERE WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET HERE TODAY TO HAVE STANDARDS.

SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.

REAL QUICK, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT I LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND I THINK IT FITS THE AVERAGE PROPERTY ON BROADWAY.

I DON'T THINK IT FITS THESE LARGE TRACTS.

WHAT WE HAVE PUT ON PAPER HERE REALLY IS KIND OF DESIGNED FOR THAT KIND OF AVERAGE SIZED LOT ON BROADWAY.

AND I THINK, I THINK THERE IT'S TURNING OUT PRETTY GOOD.

I THINK I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO HAVE THAT THOUGHT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO RELAY THAT THOUGHT, AT LEAST IN SOME MANNER, TO EITHER COUNCIL OR WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE, SAYING, HEY, IF YOU DO HAVE A LARGE TRACT OF LAND AND THESE GUIDELINES DON'T REALLY LEND ITSELF TO A LARGE MASTER PLAN TRACK, THEN WE DO WE CAN MAKE EXCEPTIONS OR WE CAN GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ROUTE IS.

I YOU KNOW, MAYBE MAYBE IT IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LARGE TRACTS OF LAND.

BUT AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO SET, WOULD HAVE TO SEND.

I WOULD ENVISION, SEND BACK TO US FOR US TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS.

AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO IT'S JUST AN IDEA.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PATHS THAT YOU COULD TAKE HERE.

I MEAN, ONE IS TO, YOU KNOW, GO FORWARD WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND UTILIZE THE PUD CONCEPT FOR THOSE SORT OF EXCEPTIONAL LARGE TRACT AREAS OR KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING AS COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI WAS SUGGESTING AND ALLOW BY RIGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS JUST THERE'S, REALLY SORT OF THREE LARGE AREAS THERE.

AND THERE ARE FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TOGETHER IN ADDITION TO THE TEN ACRE TRACT IN FRONT OF THE JUSTICE CENTER AND THE MOODY COMPRESS, AS WAS DENOTED.

ALSO, THERE'S THE GALVESTON HOUSING AUTHORITY SITE, WHICH IS HUGE AND VASTLY UNDERUTILIZED FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

I KNOW YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT ARE ACTIVE IN THAT ORGANIZATION HAVE TALKED ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT AND THAT GETS YOU DOWN TO 46TH STREET.

46TH OKAY. 46 IS THE BREAK POINT THERE.

AND THEN IT REALLY DOES GET INTO THE SMALLER, YOU KNOW, THE SMALLER MOM AND POP KIND OF SCALE SHOPS.

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SO I MEAN, IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK EITHER ONE WOULD WORK.

I THINK BUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD IF I WERE A DEVELOPER COMING DOWN WITH A LARGE SCALE, YOU KNOW, PROJECT OF AUTOMOBILE ORIENTED, SORT OF SUBURBAN KIND OF INTENT WITH IT.

YOU KNOW, THOSE DEVELOPERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, THE CITY HAS THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND IS REACTING BY OFFERING THIS SORT OF HYBRID SOLUTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL CORRIDOR BY ANY MEANS.

AND SO THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE TO GOING AS MR. LISTOWSKI HAS SORT OF SUGGESTED.

IT INVITES THAT DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COGNIZANT OF YOUR INTENT TO DO MAYBE THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS. AND WE RECOGNIZE IT THAT THAT'S VALUABLE TO THEM.

WELL, AND WE COULD.

IT WOULD JUST MERELY BE A RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH. TO COUNCIL OF HEY, HERE'S ANOTHER THOUGHT.

IF YOU WANT US TO EXPLORE THIS, GIVE US SOME DIRECTION.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE THAT EVERYBODY SAYS, OH, WE DON'T WANT TO.

THAT'S A BAD IDEA. WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT, AND THAT'S FINE.

OR YEAH, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW YOU KNOW, INTENTLY THE FOCUS IS ON THIS WALKABILITY CONCEPT.

AND I THINK.

AND NEW DEVELOPMENT CAN BE BUILT WITH WALKABILITY IN MIND.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

BUT THAT'S A FAIRLY INFLEXIBLE MODEL.

YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA THAT'S GOT LARGE TRACTS LIKE THAT.

YEAH. AND THE WALKABILITY ASPECTS OF SOME OF THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOWN ON THAT END OF THE BROADWAY.

SO IT IS DIFFICULT.

THIS ITEM THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY. SO BEFORE WE GET TO THAT I'D LIKE TO PUT OUT FOR CONSIDERATION ON AUTO RELATED BUSINESSES SINCE WE'RE MOVING THINGS AROUND LIKE WE DID AT THE BEGINNING WITH 19TH TO THE 59TH STREET.

I TOOK A GOOD DRIVE DOWN BROADWAY, UP AND DOWN A COUPLE OF TIMES JUST TO SEE WHAT WHAT'S OUT THERE? ONE, THERE'S A LOT OF EMPTY BUILDINGS, A LOT OF HOUSES THAT ARE CRAMPED.

THERE'S A LOT OF DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS, A LOT OF STUFF.

SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT ON TIME.

I THINK THE CITY SHOULD REALLY PURSUE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AROUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON BROADWAY.

NOW, WITH REGARD TO AUTO RELATED BUSINESSES, RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT GAS STATIONS AND AUTO REPAIR SALES, ETC.

RENTAL BETWEEN 19TH AND 65TH.

I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE CHANGE THAT TO 33RD TO 65TH SO THAT WE ELIMINATE DOWN THE ROAD IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT A GAS STATION ON, YOU KNOW, 28TH AND 29TH, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THAT WOULD JUST MAKE IT. WE NARROWED THE SCOPE OF WHERE WE CAN PUT GAS STATIONS.

RIGHT NOW IT'S 19 TO 65TH, I THINK FROM 33RD TO 65TH IS A GOOD STRETCH OF LAND ON BROADWAY.

I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE I COUNTED THEM.

I WAS VERY ANAL RETENTIVE ABOUT THIS.

[LAUGHTER] WHAT THAT AUTO RELATED USES WHAT IT IS SAYING THERE IS THAT YOU CAN DO IT, BUT IT HAS TO BE WITHIN AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.

I UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M SAYING THE AREA THAT WHERE WE COULD PERMIT THEM.

SO WE HAVE PROHIBITIONS ON WHAT CAN BE WHERE.

RIGHT. WE ALSO DID OUR COMPANION CASE ON PERMITTED USES.

AND LET'S SEE WHAT CHANGES WE MADE TO AUTO SALES IF WE DID ANY.

BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATION IS ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF BROADWAY.

SO. IF YOU GO DOWN BROADWAY RIGHT NOW FROM 19TH STREET TO 33RD STREET, THERE ARE FOUR GAS STATIONS, AND YOU DON'T HIT ANOTHER ONE GOING EAST UNTIL YOU GET TO SIXTH STREET.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN WE CAN HAVE FEWER GAS STATIONS ON BROADWAY.

WHERE DO YOU WANT THE GAS STATIONS? WEST OF 33RD STREET? RIGHT. ALL GAS STATIONS.

WELL, A COUPLE OF THEM ARE ATTACHED TO CONVENIENCE STORES.

A COUPLE OF THEM. WELL, ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE ATTACHED TO CONVENIENCE STORES, BUT THEY'RE GAS STATIONS AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR WALK IN STORE.

YEAH. SO I THINK CATHERINE IS LOOKING, BUT I THINK WHAT THE ISSUE MAY BE IS THE DESCRIPTION OF GAS STATIONS OKAY. I'M JUST MORE LOOKING AT THE AREA, THE FROM BETWEEN.

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RIGHT NOW IT'S BETWEEN 19TH AND 65TH.

I'M WONDERING CAN WE CHANGE THAT TO ALLOW THEM BETWEEN 33RD AND 65TH? OKAY. SO WE CAN'T DO IT IN HERE.

OKAY. THESE ARE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE HAD OUR COMPANION CASE THAT WAS FOR THE PERMITTED USES.

AND THAT WAS APPROVED. THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED LAST TIME? RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE REVIEWED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE WEREN'T WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO AUTO SERVICE FUELING STATION, WHICH IS A GAS STATION.

WE MADE CHANGES TO PASSENGER MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, WHICH IS CAR LOTS.

AND THAT. HAD ALREADY SAID ENCLOSED.

PASSENGER WE WERE PROHIBITING THEM ON BROADWAY FROM SIXTH TO 59TH STREET.

OKAY, WELL, MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER DOWN THE ROAD IF THERE'S ANOTHER BROADWAY BEAUTIFICATION GROUP THAT COMES TOGETHER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

FOR ME, IT'S JUST IN THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION OF THE CHARACTER OF BROADWAY, THE KIND OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE ON BROADWAY.

I KNOW THAT'S A BIG THAT ALWAYS COMES UP FROM THE PUBLIC OF ALL THESE THE GAS STATIONS, THE LITTLE CORNER MOM AND POP, AUTO SALES, THAT KIND OF THING. YES, YOU CAN TELL ME.

I'M COMPLETELY CRAZY.

I WON'T BE OFFENDED.

[LAUGHTER] YOU'RE CRAZY.

YEAH. SO IF THE COMMISSION WAS INTERESTED IN LIMITING THE AREA WHERE THEY COULD BE ALLOWED, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER CASE THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.

OKAY. SO YOU'D HAVE TO PUT ON AS AN ACTION ITEM AND THEN VOTE TO INITIATE IT.

AND THEN WE COULD DO IT IN THAT MANNER.

BUT WHERE ARE THEY CURRENTLY ALLOWED CATHERINE? THEY'RE ALLOWED ALONG ON BROADWAY.

THEY HAVE TO BE ENCLOSED IN AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.

SO GAS STATIONS OR CAR LOTS.

SO GAS STATIONS ARE ALLOWED.

THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE, GAS STATION WITHIN AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.

WHAT IS. I'VE NEVER SEEN A GAS STATION WITHIN AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.

AND. YEAH. ME NEITHER.

SO. THAT'S WHY PROHIBIT.

SO YOU CANNOT HAVE A GAS STATION THAT HAS A PUMP THAT IS OPEN TO LIKE WE DO TODAY.

NO. SO THEY'RE PROHIBITED ALREADY.

MOST LIKELY. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. AND THEN THE THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

THE ONES THAT ARE THERE.

[LAUGHTER] AND THEN PASSENGER MOTOR VEHICLES.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO, NO, I'M JUST I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE LOCATIONS OF THEM.

I THINK WE HAD SEEN. YOU CANNOT BUILD A GAS STATION ON BROADWAY CURRENTLY.

NOW, RIGHT.

WITH THESE CURRENT REGULATIONS.

WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.

RIGHT. YOU CAN IT HAS TO BE INSIDE.

YEP. SO THAT'S NOT LIKELY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ELECTRIC. I'VE NEVER SEEN WELL THAT WOULDN'T BE A GAS STATION.

I KNOW. YEAH OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT I HAD WHEN I WAS DRIVING DOWN BROADWAY LOOKING AT THE, AGAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE STREET I KNOW WE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO ELIMINATE THEM.

I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE THEM FURTHER WEST TO 33RD STREET, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE CHARACTER TO ME CHANGES COMING.

EVEN ON 33RD STREET, YOU COULD NOT HAVE ONE GOING WEST OF 33RD STREET.

A NEW ONE. IT HAS TO BE INSIDE.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED.

OKAY. YOU CANNOT HAVE A WHAT YOU SEE ON BROADWAY TODAY ANYMORE OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO MARY, BACK TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEAL.

IT WOULD MY THOUGHTS ARE IT WOULD MERELY BE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE US DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD.

IT WOULDN'T I DON'T SEE IT AS CHANGING ANYTHING THAT'S HERE, BUT IT'S JUST HEY, BY THE WAY, GUYS WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA.

IF YOU WANT US TO EXPLORE IT, GIVE US SOME GROUNDWORK AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.

DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE OKAY WITH? SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. OKAY, I DID I JUST WAS CONCERNED ABOUT PIECEMEALING.

AND I'M WITH YOU, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME.

I AGREE, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE TRACKS NEED TO BE DEVELOPED, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN OPPOSITE EFFECT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND HAVE NO BUSINESS ON BROADWAY EITHER.

SO, YEAH, I 100% AGREE.

OKAY, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT CONCLUDES OUR TOPICS TO BE DISCUSSED.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL BE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.