[1. Call Meeting To Order] [00:00:02] GOOD AFTERNOON. LET'S CALL OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR TUESDAY, APRIL THE 2ND TO ORDER. WE HAVE TAKEN ATTENDANCE BY SIGN IN SHEET UP HERE. CATHERINE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT? SURE. STAFF MEMBERS, WE HAVE ME, CATHERINE GORMAN, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER, DANIEL LUNSFORD, SENIOR PLANNER PLANNING TECHNICIAN, KARINA ROSALES. AND IF ANYBODY ELSE JOINS US, WE'LL ANNOUNCE THEM. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'VE GOT APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR BOTH OUR MARCH 19TH WORKSHOP AND OUR REGULAR MEETING. [4. Approval Of Minutes] DID ANYBODY SEE ANY ADDITIONS, CHANGES, RETRACTIONS, ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE MARKED IN THOSE MINUTES? LET ME JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT DONNA FAIRWEATHER, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, HAS JOINED US. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE HAVE WORKSHOP MEETING MINUTES. WE DON'T TYPICALLY DO THAT, BUT WE'VE BEEN INFORMED BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE THAT THAT'S THE BEST PRACTICE. SO, MOVING FORWARD, YOU'LL SEE YOU'LL START SEEING WORKSHOP MINUTES AS WELL AS MEETING MINUTES. PERFECT. THANK YOU. CATHERINE, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THOSE? NO. THERE ARE NO CHANGES. THEY'RE ACCEPTED AS WRITTEN. THEN WE WILL ACCEPT THOSE AS WRITTEN. [5. Public Comment] WE WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL START ON THIS SIDE. ANYBODY FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS ON THIS SIDE OVER HERE. ANYBODY. I HAVE NO COMMENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I'M GUESSING THE ACTION ITEM; THE ACTION ITEM TYPICALLY HAS A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. YES. SO, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME IF IT IS A COMMENT RELATED TO AN ACTION ITEM NOW WOULD BE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO. RIGHT. YES. IF YOU'LL BE SURE TO WRITE, YOU ASSIGN YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN, PLEASE. AND THEN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS NOW, PLEASE. HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS PRISCILLA FILES. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THE ARBORIST OF THE GALVESTON ISLAND TREE CONSERVANCY. AND I FINALLY READ SUNDAY'S PAPER TODAY AND SAW THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BROADWAY, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT GREENERY AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW, THE CONSERVANCY HAS BEEN SUPER INVOLVED IN PLANTING TREES ON BROADWAY, NOT ONLY THE ENTIRE ESPLANADES OF BROADWAY, BUT SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS AS WELL. COMING FROM THAT 2015 COMMITTEE THAT WE HAD, THAT WAS A BROADWAY WORKING ON DESIGN AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. COMING OFF OF THAT, WE PLANTED 31 TREES, 31, 29 OR 31 TREES FROM ON THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM 46 TO 52, 51ST. AND THOSE HAVE DONE REMARKABLY WELL. WE JUST PLANTED SOME NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, NOT WITH THE CITY, BUT AT THE BOB LINES POST OFFICE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. THEY'VE DONE REMARKABLY WELL. AND I'M WHEN I SAY REMARKABLY WELL, I MEAN, CONSIDERING THAT THEY WERE WATERED BY VOLUNTEERS AND THAT TAKES ME TO THIS AND THAT WE ARE WE WOULD LOVE. IN FACT, I HAVE A CERTAIN FRIEND THAT'S A LAWYER THAT LOVES TO PLANT TREES ON THE ISLAND, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO PLANT MORE TREES ALONG THE ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAYS, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN BUST OUT CONCRETE. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A WATERING PLAN INVOLVED WITH THAT, WHETHER THAT'S BUSINESSPERSON ON THE END OF A HOSE FOR IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS OR THEIR HOME, WHATEVER. THERE HAS TO BE A WATERING PLAN IN FRONT OF THEM BECAUSE AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH MORE EXTREME CLIMATE CHANGES YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, IN OUR, IN OUR VIEW OF LITTLE FLOOD ON BROADWAY IS NOT A BAD THING. BUT LIKE LAST YEAR, THAT WAS ROUGH AND BRUTAL. 2011-2012 WAS AN IMMENSELY ROUGH AND BRUTAL. SO JUST SO THAT WE ALL KNOW GOING FORWARD, JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE. IT NEEDS TO BE A WATERING PLAN. AND PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT WHOEVER OWNS THE PROPERTY OR LEASES THAT PROPERTY, THAT RIGHT OF WAY TREE WOULD BE ON THAT THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WATERING A TREE THAT WE PUT IN OR WHOEVER PUT THAT THAT TREE IN. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET A CITYWIDE THING GOING ON THAT AND WE ARE SO BIG INTO ON BOARD WITH GETTING TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND TAKING CARE OF. I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW IT'S TXDOT ROAD. [00:05:03] TXDOT WAS JUST HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, NOT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. ASSESSING ALL THE TREES AND THE ESPLANADES ON BROADWAY. AND TOMORROW THERE'S A THERE'S A MEETING, AND THAT'S MY THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS FILES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS. [6.A.1. 24P-006 (Adjacent To 2202 Strand / Avenue B) Request For A License To Use In Order To Retain Construction Fencing. Adjacent Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, Lot 8 And East 1/2 Of Lot 9, Block 682, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Brax Easterwood, Easterwood Architects Studio Adjacent Property Owner: Col. Bubbies, LLC. Easement Holder: City Of Galveston] WE'RE GOING TO START WITH 20 4P-006. ALRIGHTY. 20 4P-006. THIS IS ADJACENT TO 2202 STRAND. AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A LICENSE TO USE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR SOME CONSTRUCTION FENCING. THERE ARE 13 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, THREE RETURNED. ALL THREE OF THOSE IN OPPOSITION. NOTE THAT THERE WERE NO CITY DEPARTMENT NOTIFICATIONS OR RESPONSES OR COMMENTS PROVIDED. SO, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A LICENSE TO USE, SAY, RIGHT OF WAY TO RETAIN CONSTRUCTION FENCING ASSOCIATED WITH ONGOING RENOVATIONS TO THE WILLIAM MOODY BUILDING HERE. TEMPORARY LICENSE TO USE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY HAS SINCE EXPIRED. CONSTRUCTION FENCING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY IS INSTALLED ALONG 22ND STREET, ROUGHLY PARALLEL TO THE PROPERTY'S EAST PROPERTY LINE, AND ENDS JUST SHORT OF THE BUILDING. SOUTH FACADE ENCROACHES AND APPROXIMATELY 26FT INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY, ITS WIDEST POINT BLOCKING BOTH THE SIDEWAY AND PARALLEL PARKING. THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT. WE'LL MENTION THAT IN A MOMENT. THE PLACEMENT IS BASED ON THE SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH PRIMARILY CONSISTS OF GENERAL IMPROVEMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS STAGING, AS THERE IS NO AVAILABLE SPACE ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT THE FENCING REMAIN LONG ENOUGH FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED, WHICH IS ESTIMATED TO BE JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR, 2024. A LICENSE TO USE IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO PLACING ITEMS, OF COURSE, PER CHAPTER 32 FIVE OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES. IN SECTION 13.202 ESTABLISHES A PROCEDURE. THERE ARE NO CONCERNS OR OBJECTIONS. RETURN FROM OUTSIDE UTILITIES TO CITY DEPARTMENTS. THE CITY'S TRANSIT DEPARTMENT JUST NOTED THAT THE EXPENSE OF THE L2 ITEM SHALL NOT BE INCREASED, NOR TO ALLOW FOR THE TROLLEY OPERATIONS OF THE STEEL TROLLEYS ADJACENT. BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN THE STRAND HISTORIC DISTRICT. LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS PROVIDED RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE L2 REQUEST. STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH TEN AND THE STAFF REPORT. WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS. SO, THIS IS A SUBJECT PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH FROM STRAND. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. AND IT THERE IS A MODIFICATION TO THIS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MOVE THE CONSTRUCTION AREA OUT OF THE STREET, JUST OFF THE SIDEWALK. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN PROVIDE FURTHER DETAILS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE'S A SUBJECT PROPERTY. THERE'RE SOME PHOTOS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN A LITTLE WHILE AGO. THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE REMOVED THAT CONSTRUCTION FENCING FROM THE STREET THAT'S SHOWN THERE. WE HAVE THE PROBABLY LOOKING NORTHWEST FOR TWO OTHER DIRECTIONS. OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST. AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU. DANIEL. I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF HERE. SO, HE IS. THE APPLICANT IS PRESENTLY PAYING FOR THESE SPOTS THAT ARE OCCUPIED ON A PER MONTHLY BASIS. IS THAT CORRECT? TYPICALLY, THAT IS THE CASE. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WHAT IS THERE ANY CONCERN WITH PARKING THERE? I SAW THAT IN ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WAS SENT TO US. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I'M GOING OFF OF MEMORY. I DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF ME. WAS THAT YOU KNOW, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES AFFECTING THE PARKING. AND, OF COURSE, PARKING IS BEING USED THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW LONG HAS THE HAVE THEY HAD WL2 OR HAVE THEY HAD A L2? THEY HAD A WHAT DID THEY HAVE BEFORE? WELL, THEY HAD A TEMPORARY L2 THAT HAS EXPIRED. I AM NOT 100% CERTAIN OF HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS. OKAY. SO, I DON'T EVER RECALL SEEING I DON'T RECALL SEEING IT HERE TO BE RENEWED. A TEMPORARY LICENSE TO USE HAS SINCE EXPIRED. SO, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, CORRECT? OKAY, SO. AND THEY'RE ASKING JUST TILL JUNE TO HAVE THE LICENSE TO USE THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. A MAJORITY OF THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE ABOVE. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT COULD PROBABLY YOU KNOW, ELABORATE ON WHAT ALL IS LEFT TO DO AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE. BUT THIS THIS BUILDING HAS SEEN SUBSTANTIAL INTERIOR RENOVATIONS, FOR SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, WHAT'S EXISTING? THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS GONE NOW, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND SO, SOME OF THIS PHOTO ON THE UPPER RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THIS LIKE THE KIND OF THE PLYWOOD CONSTRUCTION FENCING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HAS THE ALWAYS HAS THE NICE YOU KNOW, MURALS ON IT THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN. [00:10:05] BUT THERE WILL BE NOTHING PAST THE CURB. SO, THE REQUEST IS TO KEEP THE SIDEWALK BLOCKED, BUT NOT. AND THE AND THE FOUR SPACES. NO, THE SPACES WILL BE OPENED TO PUBLIC USE AGAIN. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE METERED SPACES REGARDLESS, SOME MIGHT BE PAYING FOR THEM, BUT. YES. BUT YEAH. SO, THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE, IS NOW JUST REQUESTING THE PART ON THE SIDEWALK PARTITION. YES. THE PARTITIONS. OKAY. SO, AND HOW SO THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE PUBLIC PARKING THERE IN THOSE FOUR SPOTS? NO, NO, THE ONLY THING THAT CAME BACK FROM OUR, OUR DEPARTMENTS WERE, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STEEL WHEEL TROLLEY TRACKS RIGHT THERE. JUST MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING ENCROACHES ON THOSE, BUT NOTHING WILL. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH SPACE IS BETWEEN THE END OF THAT WOODEN PARTITION AND THE. AND THE ACCESS RAMP. SO, WIDE ENOUGH FOR A WHEELCHAIR TO GET THROUGH. I DON'T BELIEVE. I'M NOT SURE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT. THERE IS. IT LOOKS LIKE IT POPS OUT PRETTY MUCH TO THE PRETTY MUCH THE CURVE FROM WHAT I CAN TELL FROM THE PHOTO. BUT THE ACCESS RAMP IS NOT OBSTRUCTED, CORRECT? OKAY. SO, WHAT'S GOING TO BE LEFT IN PLACE IS THE IS THE PARTITION CORRECT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WAS CONFUSED BY THAT. THEN THAT THAT SO THE PARTITION WILL, WILL END AT THE CURB OF THAT SECTION RIGHT THERE. NOT THE ENTIRE. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. WE GOT A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE, THE, YOU KNOW PROPOSAL FAIRLY LATE, I THINK, YESTERDAY. SO. OKAY. WHO'S THE ARTIST THAT I DON'T KNOW, THE APPLICANT MIGHT KNOW. CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST SLIDE, THE WITH THE DRAWING. SO THAT SHOWS IT'S IN THE STREET. BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE THAT. YEAH. CORRECT. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE BROUGHT A REVISED PLAN FOR YOUR REVIEW. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, THE RAMP LOOKS LIKE IT APPEARS TO GO STRAIGHT UP TO AN AREA THAT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR A WHEELCHAIR, BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ENOUGH AREA. ADJACENT TO THAT. SO MY TEST QUESTION IS WHY HAVE A RAMP OPEN IF IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO A SQUARE THAT GOES NOWHERE? THERE MAY BE SOME SPACE. ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT'S SITE PLAN THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME SPACE TO MOVE BACK AROUND PARALLEL TO THE RAMP AND THEN GO BACK, YOU KNOW, DOWN STRAND. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE CONSTRUCTION FENCING WOULD BLOCK ANYTHING GOING NORTHBOUND. SO, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT TO PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM BEING IN A HAZARDOUS SITUATION, TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THAT CITY OR THE OWNER? I WOULD PRESUME THAT IT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT, BUT PERHAPS MR. FAIRWEATHER CAN ELABORATE. I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE, TOO IS THAT HOW LONG IS THE CHAIN LINK FENCE BEEN DOWN? I BELIEVE THEY JUST TOOK IT DOWN EARLIER TODAY OR MAYBE YESTERDAY. OKAY. BECAUSE, I MEAN, JUST I WOULD THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO PUT AS MUCH PROTECTION AS POSSIBLE FOR THE WORKERS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN THE AREA. IF THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THE FOUR SPACES AND THEY'RE GOING TO, ACCORDING TO THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE PAYING FOR FOUR SPACES, IS THAT CORRECT? NO. I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO JUST SORT OF THEY DON'T NEED THOSE SPACES ANYMORE. SO THAT WOULD CHANGE. OKAY. I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT. IF IT'S EASIER TO KEEP THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IN PLACE UNTIL THE WORK IS REALLY COMPLETE BY JUNE 30TH, IT'S ONLY THREE MONTHS, SO IT'S PLANNING AHEAD. I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HEARD WAS WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT IS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, I GUESS IF THERE ARE ANY HAZARDS OUT THERE. I CAN ANSWER THAT IN A COUPLE OF WAYS. ONE IS, YOU KNOW, I CAME FROM A STATE WHERE THE JUDGE WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE PERSON'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE WHAT'S THERE TO BE SEEN. SO, PEOPLE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S THERE TO BE SEEN. IN THIS SITUATION, THOUGH, I CAN UNDERSTAND. SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION. AND I THINK WHEN THE APPLICANT GETS UP TO SPEAK, THEY CAN SPEAK MORE ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THIS PROJECT AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT FENCING IS REQUIRED. SO MAYBE SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS WILL BE ADDRESSED BASED ON WHAT NOW NEEDS TO BE DONE TO FINISH THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. YES. WE CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT IF THERE'S HOW MUCH IF THERE'S A SQUARE FOOTAGE IS RIGHT THERE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OF STAFF, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THE APPLICANT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. [00:15:15] MY NAME IS BRAD EASTERWOOD. I'M THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT. I HAVE AN OFFICE AT 123 25TH STREET. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. TO THE COMMISSION, OF COURSE. AND TO DANIEL FOR YOUR STAFF REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION. I CAN ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS I THINK MAYBE NEED TO BE REMINDED. BUT STAN, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE RAMP YOU ARE ABLE TO ACCESS, AND DANIEL MENTIONED THIS, BUT I'LL JUST REITERATE IT. YOU CAN ACCESS THE RAMP DOWN AT THE CORNER FROM THE STRAND, NEXT TO THE STEPS, GO UP THE RAMP, BACK AROUND AND ACCESS THE STRAND. YOU'RE CORRECT THOUGH, THERE IS NO WAY TO GO TO THE NORTH TOWARDS HARBORSIDE ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. SECOND THING THAT WAS ASKED WAS ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND THERE'S STILL A GOOD BIT OF STRUCTURAL WORK TO BE DONE ON THAT SIDEWALK OR ON THE BUILDING NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK. IT'S MOSTLY CAST-IRON WORK. ALL THE BRICK HAS BEEN REPAIRED ON THAT SIDE. SO REALLY WHAT'S REMAINING IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT THERE STILL NEED A NEED FOR SCAFFOLDING, AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF HISTORIC MATERIAL THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REMOVED THAT'S BEHIND THAT, THAT PLYWOOD WALL. AND WE NEED A PLACE FOR IT. ADMITTEDLY, THE PROJECT'S GONE ON TOO LONG, BUT GRACIE'S HAS BEEN OPEN FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND IT'S DOING VERY WELL, SO WE CAN'T PRACTICALLY, YOU KNOW, MOVE ALL THAT MATERIAL INTO THAT FINISHED SPACE. WE NEED SOMEPLACE OUTSIDE WHERE IT'S ACCESSIBLE, WHERE IT'S SAFE. AND REALLY, THERE'S NOT MUCH CHOICE FOR US TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE WITH IT. WE HAVE REMOVED THAT PARKING REQUEST. IT SEEMED TO BE THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT THAT WE WERE GETTING. BECAUSE WE DID OCCUPY THOSE SPACES FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND THE FENCE. ANTHONY HAD MENTIONED ASKED IF IT WOULD BE BETTER TO, TO LEAVE THE FENCE. THE FENCE IS ALREADY GONE. IT'S BEEN GONE FOR AT LEAST A WEEK. BUT BUT ANYWAY, SO WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, OUR IMPACT JUST BY THAT WAY. BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CHOICE WITH THE WITH THE SIDEWALK AND THE REPAIRS THAT STILL NEED TO BE DONE. MOST OF IT'S CAST IRON, SO IT'S HISTORIC MATERIAL. THE STATE REQUIRES US TO KEEP IT AND REPAIR IT, SO WE JUST WANT TO FINISH THAT UP. AND LASTLY ONE OF THE APARTMENTS WILL BE ON THE HOMES TOUR THIS YEAR. SO WELCOME YOU ALL TO COME OUT AND SEE THAT. NICE. ALL RIGHT. DID I MISS ANYTHING? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OR THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE QUESTIONS OF YOU. SURE. THE CHAIN LINK FENCE WAS THERE MAINLY TO PROTRUDE OUT INTO THE STREET. YES. TO RESERVE THOSE SPACES ESSENTIALLY. YEAH. AND NOW ALL THAT'S LEFT IS THAT PLYWOOD IS THE YES THAT THAT ZONE THERE WHICH ARGUABLY IS MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN PAINTED OVER AS. YEAH. THEN IT'S FADING A LITTLE BIT. BUT IT IS BETTER THAN CHAIN LINK RIGHT. YES. OKAY. SO, AND IN ALL THE ACTIVITIES FOR OTHER THAT IS BACK BEHIND THOSE CORRECT WALLS THERE. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT I MEAN WE LEFT A SECTION THERE WHERE, WHERE YOU COULD ACCESS THE RAMP AND THAT STEPS IN. BUT THE REST OF IT. YEAH. GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE CURB. OKAY. EXCELLENT. BUT DOWN HERE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? JUST A QUESTION REGARDING. SO NOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CHAIN LINK FENCE, YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE WOODEN PARTITION. HOW SECURE IS THAT? SO, PEOPLE DON'T GET IN THERE AND TRY TO STEAL YOUR HISTORICAL STUFF? WE HAVEN'T HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT. IT HAS, IT HAS PADLOCKS ON IT. RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET AROUND IT TO GET TO THE BACK OF GRACIE'S. THAT'S WHERE THE ADA ACCESS IS. SOMEONE BROUGHT UP YESTERDAY ABOUT SOME DIRT THAT WAS LAYING ON THE SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT THAT DRIVEWAY AND IT'S BEEN LEFT THERE BECAUSE THE CITY IS PLANNING TO COME IN AND FILL IN THAT DRIVEWAY. THERE'S NO NEED FOR IT ANYMORE FOR DELIVERIES LIKE THERE WAS WITH COLONEL BUBBY. SO THAT DRIVEWAY OR LOADING AREA WILL GET A CURB AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT MUCH SAFER IN THE END FOR TRAVELING THERE. SO, IF YOU ARE IN A WHEELCHAIR, YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, DIPPING DOWN INTO THAT DRIVEWAY, SO IT'LL BE MORE LEVEL. [00:20:02] OKAY. SO, YOU'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO THE PARTITION. IT'S GOING TO STAY EXACTLY AS IT IS. YES. BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THE PILE OF DIRT AND JUST SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT OUT OF THE WAY. WE WERE JUST WAITING FOR IT THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO NEED FILL FOR INFILLING THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN CONCRETE ON TOP OF THAT. OKAY. BUT WE'LL GET IT OUT OF THE WAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JOHN PAUL OR JOHN, DO YOU FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THE JUNE 30TH COMPLETION? I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S DOABLE FOR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, FOR THE EXTERIOR PART. IF THE GUYS CAN JUST FOCUS ON THAT, THEN I THINK IT'S DOABLE. WELL, WOULD YOU HAVE AN ISSUE IF WE ESTABLISHED A DEADLINE. SO, IT'S NOT AN OPEN-ENDED SITUATION LIKE IT CURRENTLY IS? YES. NO, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE PROPOSED THE JUNE 30TH DEADLINE. OKAY. HE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I DID ALREADY. OKAY. JUST A SECOND AGO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND MR. BASSETT FOR TAKING ON THIS PROJECT. I MEAN, THIS THIS THIS BUILDING HAS GONE THROUGH A MAJOR RENOVATION, AND THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT EASY. THEY TAKE A LONG TIME, A LOT OF MONEY. AND SO, THIS BUILDING IS LOOKING GREAT. I REMEMBER WHEN THIS BUILDING HAD WEEDS GROWING IN THE BRICK OF IT. BRICK WAS FALLING OFF OF IT. SO JUST THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THE PROJECT AND LOOKING GREAT. YEAH, IT IS A REALLY REMARKABLE PROJECT. I'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH IT. I REALLY THINK IF YOU IF YOU DO GET A CHANCE TO WALK THROUGH IT, YOU SHOULD. THERE'S A LOT OF REUSED MATERIAL IN THERE THAT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL. SOME REALLY NICE CRAFTSMANSHIP IN THERE. THANK YOU. I DO MISS COLONEL BUBBY'S, THOUGH, RIGHT? I'M GLAD YOU SAID IT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND YOU'LL DO. DO YOU NEED THIS? YOU GOT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL. FOR THE COMMISSION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OH. I'M SORRY. WAIT. STOP. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I'M SORRY. LET'S GO AHEAD. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE. IS THERE ANYBODY OVER HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE OVER HERE? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT 3:52 P.M. AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. 24P-006 WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE DEADLINE OF JUNE 30TH, 2024, WHICH IS IN STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ONE THROUGH TEN. I'LL SECOND. PERFECT. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION. IT'S ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. YES, I KNOW WE'RE DONE, BUT I'D LIKE TO THANK THE APPLICANT ALSO FOR LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS OF THE PUBLIC AND TRYING TO TAKE PROACTIVE MEASURES TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. SO, THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. [7.A.1. 24P-007 (5124 Ave O 1/2) Request For A Minor Plat To Reconfigure Two Lots Into Two. Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, Lots 21 And 22, Block 91 Denver Resurvey, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Jessica Miller-Ibey Property Owners: Christopher Ibey And Jessica Miller-Ibey] ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO CASE 24P-007. THIS IS 5124 AVENUE O 1/2. THE REQUEST IS A REPLAT FROM ONE LOT TO TWO. 13 PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RETURNED. NO OBJECTION FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS OR PRIVATE UTILITIES. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REPLAT OF ONE PARCEL INTO TWO. CURRENTLY, THE PARCEL AND EXISTING STRUCTURES ARE ORIENTED NORTH SOUTH BETWEEN AVENUE O 1/2 AND THE ALLEY. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO REPLAT INTO TWO EAST WEST ORIENTED LOTS. ACCORDING TO THE REPLAT SUBMITTED AS EXHIBIT A, EACH LOT WILL THEN INCLUDE A SEPARATE HABITABLE STRUCTURE. NOTE THAT THIS WILL RESULT IN ONE LOT HAVING ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY ONLY, AND NO ACCESS FROM AVENUE O 1/2, BECAUSE THE PROPOSED REAL ALLEY LOT WILL NOT HAVE DIRECT STREET ACCESS, THE REQUEST DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AND MUST BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PROPOSED NORTHERN LOT DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM AREA STANDARDS FOR NEW PARCELS IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT. HOWEVER, THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAS APPROVED A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR REDUCED LOT AREA UNDER CASE NUMBER 23-007 TO ALLOW THE REAR YACHT TO DEVIATE FROM THE MINIMUM 2500 SQUARE FOOT TO 1900FT², AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT B, AND THE SOUTHERNMOST LOT FACING O 1/2 EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS CASE 24P-007 BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE THE APPLICANT SHALL ACCOMMODATE THE FILING OF THE PLAT BY OCTOBER 2ND, 2024, AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS. THIS IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURES. YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT STRUCTURE AND THEN IN THE BACK THE REAR STRUCTURE. AND HERE IS THE SURVEY, CURRENT SURVEY ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND THE PROPOSED RE PLAT ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. AND THEN WE HAVE THESE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. [00:25:01] AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CATHERINE. HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE DIFFERENT COUPLE CASES SIMILAR TO THIS, WHERE WE'VE RE-PLATTED A WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY BEEN A SINGLE LOT INTO TWO WITH THE GARAGE, APARTMENT OR ANCILLARY STRUCTURE-ISH. LIVABLE, RIGHT. BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE JUST A STANDALONE GARAGE. THE I SEE IN HERE THAT UTILITY COMPANIES, CITY DEPARTMENTS WERE ALL OKAY. THIS HAS PARKING AVAILABLE. THIS ALSO HAS ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY. WHAT? I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO WORD THIS, BUT WHAT OTHER WHAT OTHER REQUIREMENTS WOULD JUST A REPLAT OF AN EXISTING PLAT INCLUDE THAT DOES NOT IT MEETS THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. IT MEETS IT DOES NOT MEET THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF AN R-1, BUT WHAT OTHER WHAT ELSE DOES IT NOT MEET? WELL, IT MEETS EVERYTHING ELSE. OKAY. SO, IT MEETS ALL OF OUR MINIMUM STANDARDS. YES. THE NORTHERN LOT DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARD, BUT THEY HAVE RECEIVED A VARIANCE. OKAY, SO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAS APPROVED A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE LOT WIDTH TO 1900. SO, IN A SENSE, IT MEETS EVERY IT MEETS EVERYTHING ELSE. OKAY. AND IF PARKING WERE AN ISSUE, IF OFF STREET PARKING WERE NOT THERE, WOULD THAT BE A. WELL, IT'D BE SO STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT THE OFF-STREET PARKING IS BEING MET. OKAY. WE WOULDN'T BRING SOMETHING TO YOU THAT THAT THAT STANDARD HASN'T BEEN MET. OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW WHEN AN APPLICANT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO DO THIS, WHAT CRITERIA THEY'RE GIVEN OR THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THE STANDARDS ARE LOT AREA, LOT WIDTH, LOT DEPTH. AND THEN THE PARKING AND ACCESS OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND SETBACKS OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND CATHERINE, IS THERE ACCESS TO THE REAR STRUCTURE FROM AVENUE O 1/2? NO. IT WILL TAKE ITS ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY. AND THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? NO, NO. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR US, PLEASE. I AM JESSICA MILLER IBY. GOOD AFTERNOON. HELLO. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROJECT OR WHAT? THE BACK HOUSE WAS IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE, AND WE JUST REALLY HAVE BEEN RESTORING BOTH OF THEM. THEY WERE ABANDONED IN AN ESTATE FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE'RE RESTORING THEM. BUT WE WANT TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ONE THAT WE SUBDIVIDED, WHICH WE WOUND UP BRINGING A FAMILY FROM THORNDALE WHO BOUGHT THE FRONT, AND A LADY FROM HOUSTON WHO'S RETIRING, WHO'S UNDER CONTRACT TO BUY THE BACK ONE. SO, IT WORKED OUT GREAT BECAUSE THEY COULD GET THEM CHEAPER THAN TOGETHER. AND SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. MAN, YOU GOT OFF EASY. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT AT 358. IS THERE ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE? NO. ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT 3:58 AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A. CONSIDERATION? YES. ON THIS. IS THERE A. MY HOUSE IS ON AN ALLEY, AND I KNOW THERE'S NOT A TURNING RADIUS ON OUR ALLEY. TO MAKE IT IN A PARKING SPACE LIKE THAT HAS. IS THERE ENOUGH? IS THERE AN ALLEY? MAYBE. IT'S A LOT WIDER THAN MY ALLEY. CAN THEY MAKE A TURN INTO THAT PARKING AREA? YEAH. AN ALLEY IS TYPICALLY 20FT WIDE. THE PAVED PORTION MIGHT ONLY BE TEN FEET. AND 20FT IS ENOUGH ROOM TO MANEUVER. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A. A MOTION. SURE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. 20 4-007. ACCORDING TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S GO FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RIGHT. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. [00:30:01] OKAY. YEAH. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT. CATHERINE. YOU COULD EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE TO OUR VIEWERS BETWEEN A REPORT LIKE THIS AND THEN WHEN WE'RE PLATTING AND SEPARATING LOTS OUT SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHEN WE VOTE AND WHEN WE DON'T VOTE. SURE. SO SOMETIMES THE THERE'S A REQUIREMENT OF A PUBLIC HEARING ONLY, AND THAT'S WHEN THERE'S AN INCREASE IN DENSITY IN A SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT. SO, R-0 AND R-1. ONE OF THE CRITERIA FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PLAT IS ACCESS ON A PUBLIC STREET. SO, THE CASE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE IS THAT THIS IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL BECAUSE OF THAT LOT THAT'S TAKING ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY. SO THAT'S THE TRIGGER IN THIS CASE FOR A VOTE AT THE COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO TEXT AMENDMENTS, CASE 24-ZA-002. [7.B.1. 24ZA-002: Request For A Text Amendment To The Galveston Land Development Regulations, Article 2, Uses And Supplemental Standards, And Article 14, Definitions, In Order To Add A New And Unlisted Land Use Of “Cat Cafe” Applicant: Tommie Jo Ramirez] ALRIGHTY 24-002 THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT. FOR A NEW AND ENLISTED USE, WHICH IS KIND OF EXCITING TO ME BECAUSE WE GET VERY FEW OF THESE THAT ARE ACTUALLY NEW AND ENLISTED USES. THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED REQUESTS FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, STATED THAT NEW AND ENLISTED USE OF CAT CAFE. CURRENTLY, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS DO NOT INCLUDE A COMPARABLE OR REASONABLY ADJACENT LAND USE TO THE PROPOSAL. NOTE THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL PROPOSED DEFINITION AND STANDARDS AND THE STAFF REPORT. WHILE STAFF GENERALLY AGREES WITH PROPOSAL, CONFORMS TO THE CRITERIA FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS INCLUDED BELOW, STAFF RESEARCHED SIMILAR BUSINESSES AS DEFINED BY OTHER MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS IN TEXAS AND ELSEWHERE, AND CONSULTED WITH THE CITY OF GALVESTON ANIMAL SERVICES AND GALVESTON ISLAND HUMANE SOCIETY. PERSONNEL. AND STAFF HAS PRESENTED A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DEFINITION. ALSO, IN THE STAFF REPORT STAFF'S PROPOSAL. PROPOSED DEFINITION IS BASED ON THE COMMON DEFINITION OF CAT CAFE BASED ON MULTIPLE SOURCES, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT'S DEFINITION, THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY, AND THE DEFINITION USED BY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES. STAFF'S PROPOSED DEFINITION ALSO INTENDS TO FOCUS ON THE ANIMAL INTERACTION AND HOUSING ELEMENT, AS ANY OTHER USES WHICH MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED, AND REVIEWS SEPARATELY AND NEED NOT BE SPECIFICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED LAND USE. THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF HOW OUR ZONING WORKS. IT'S FAIRLY INCLUSIVE. IT'S BASICALLY MIXED USE BY DEFAULT. STAFF ALSO HAS PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION ON THE LIST OF LIMITED USE STANDARDS AND CHANGES TO TABLE 2.201. LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ALSO PROVIDE AN EXHIBIT B OF THE STAFF REPORT. PLEASE NOTE THE CLASSIFICATION OF NEW AND LISTED USES AND THE CRITERIA FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS AND THE STAFF REPORT. PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS FINAL DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY ON THIS REQUEST, AND THEY WILL REVIEW IT AT THE APRIL 25TH, 2024, MEETING. SO, THIS IS A UNUSUAL BUSINESS FOR GALVESTON, GENERALLY SPEAKING. BUT THEY CAT CAFES DO EXIST THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND ABROAD. IT'S A FAIRLY WELL-DEFINED BUSINESS PLAN. ACCORDING TO RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY THE APPLICANT AND BY STAFF. SO, AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS DO NOT INCLUDE A LAND USE OF THIS VERY SPECIFIC AND UNIQUE BUSINESS MODEL. THE REGULATIONS ALSO LACK ANY COMPARABLE LAND USE. IT CLEARLY, DIRECTLY APPLIES TO THE ANIMAL HOUSING AND INTERACTION ASPECT OF THE BUSINESS. THEREFORE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD CAT CAFE AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND OF COURSE, STAFF SUPPORTS THE ADDITION BUT HAS PROVIDED A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TAKE ON THE REQUEST WHICH WE HAVE HERE ON OUR SCREEN. SO, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. WE DO HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE WE CAN DISCUSS. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE, AS ARE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR CITY OF GALVESTON ANIMAL SERVICES AND GALVESTON ISLAND HUMANE SOCIETY, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. IS THERE? ARE THERE ANY OTHER SLIDES? THIS IS IT. BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK RUNDOWN. YES, IF YOU WOULD. SO, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL IS THERE ON TOP, AND IT'S ALSO IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND THEY HAVE ALSO PROVIDED A, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED CHANGE TO TABLE 2.201 AND THE STAFF REPORT WE HAVE, THERE MIGHT BE ONE MORE SLIDE. YEAH. THERE WE GO. SO, WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL AND STAFF'S PROPOSAL ON THIS SECOND PAGE SIDE BY SIDE AS WELL. COULD YOU GO BACK AROUND TO THE FIRST ONE, PLEASE? THANK YOU. AND THEN HERE, OF COURSE, BELOW WE HAVE STAFF'S PROPOSAL, THEIR PROPOSED DEFINITION AND OUR CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. PLEASE FORGIVE THE OMITTED LABEL. THEY'RE UNDER COMMERCIAL LAND USES THAT SHOULD SAY CAT CAFE AS WELL. OTHERWISE, THAT'S STAFF'S PROPOSAL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL FROM THE STAFF REPORT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AND STAFF'S PROPOSAL ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. [00:35:02] THEY'RE GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY SIMILAR. OKAY. PERFECT. AND OF COURSE, STAFF IS HERE. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. HAS THE APPLICANT AND STAFF GONE OVER THIS? I DO NOT KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAS SEEN THE STAFF REPORT AS PRESENTED HERE. STAFF TOOK A DIFFERENT TACK SIMPLY BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WE TAILORED IT MORE TO HOW OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WORK. THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, WHILE SOLID WAS KIND OF MORE GENERIC. SURE. YEAH. WELL, YES, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THERE'S SOME THAT THEY'VE SEEN THE DIFFERENTIATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO. YEAH. OKAY. AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT OUR PROPOSAL DOES SUBSTANTIALLY, YOU KNOW, DO THEM JUSTICE TO GET THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. AND I THINK I'M READING IN HERE IF A IF I, IF SOMEBODY UP HERE WANTS TO OPEN UP A CAT CAFE, THIS THIS PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT STILL REQUIRES THEM TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND THROUGH TO. HOW CAN THEY GET THAT THAT PERMITTED USE? WELL, I MEAN, IF IF THIS WERE ADDED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WE NOW HAVE A LAND USE THAT WOULD ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR UNIQUE BUT WELL ESTABLISHED BUSINESS MODEL. AND THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO GO BEYOND THE STAFF LEVEL. IT WOULD BE JUST THE SAME AS SOMEONE OPENING A RESTAURANT OR A RETAIL SHOP OR AN OFFICE OR SOMETHING ELSE. IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUDGED AGAINST OUR, OUR, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. AND I WILL NOTE THAT REALLY THE, THE ANIMAL INTERACTION PORTION IS WHAT KICKED OFF THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION. YEAH. WELL, AND BECAUSE IN THIS AND I THINK THIS WAS THERE IN OUR PACKET, THIS WAS THEIR PROPOSAL. WHAT SAID NO PERSON SHALL OPERATE A COMMERCIAL ANIMAL ESTABLISHMENT WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING A REQUIRED PERMIT. IS THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF REMOVED. NO, IT'S UNDER LICENSING NUMBER THREE ON OUR SIDE. AND THAT REFERS TO A LOT OF THE LICENSING IN THIS CASE WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF PLANNING'S PURVIEW WOULD BE ANIMAL SERVICES OR EVEN THE STATE. AND THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT CAN BE BETTER DIRECTED TO THOSE FOLKS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO AS A CAT CAFE WOULD FALL UNDER THAT ANIMAL ESTABLISHMENT UMBRELLA. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND IF THEY WANTED TO DO, SAY, A BOOKSTORE OR, YOU KNOW, A, YOU KNOW, WINE BAR OR SOMETHING NEXT DOOR ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THEN WE WOULD JUST LOOK AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, SEE IF IT'S PERMITTED OR NOT. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD? UNDERSTOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND HOW DO STAFF? WHAT'S THE DISTINCTION THAT THE STAFF MAKES BETWEEN THIS PROPOSAL AND A KENNEL? A KENNEL IS A MORE INTENSIVE LAND USE. OUR DEFINITION OF KENNEL IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT YOUR ANIMAL BOARDING, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND TYPICALLY, IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY INVOLVE I MEAN KENNEL COULD CONCEIVABLY INVOLVE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, CATS TO BIRDS TO DOGS. YOU KNOW, DOGS TEND TO BE PRETTY LOUD, YOU KNOW, TO SOMETHING LARGE, LIKE A HORSE. THEORETICALLY. SO THAT'S WHY THIS SPECIFIC YOU KNOW, LAND USE WAS REALLY REQUIRED IS BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY DEALING WITH CATS, BUT IN A MANNER THAT'S DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT THAN OUR DEFINITION OF KENNEL. BUT THE CATS WILL BE HOUSED ON THE PREMISES. CORRECT. THAT'S THE ONLY REAL SIMILARITY, HONESTLY, BETWEEN THE TWO IS THAT THE ANIMALS WOULD BE ON SITE. THERE'S NO LOCATION THAT I CAN SEE IN THE PACKET. IS THERE A LOCATION FOR THIS BUSINESS? NO, I MEAN, THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE A GENERAL REVISION TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT WOULD HOLD TRUE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. SO THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO SOME BOARD OR COMMISSION FOR THE NEXT STEP. WELL, IT WOULD WELL I MEAN CITY COUNCIL WILL. PARDON. CITY COUNCIL WOULD, WOULD REVIEW IT NEXT. BUT THEN JUST ISSUING THE PERMIT IF THIS IS APPROVED, THEY WOULD JUST. OKAY. AND YOU'LL HAVE TO FALL IN ANY ONE OF THESE PERMITTED AREAS. COMMERCIAL CENTRAL BUSINESS. EXACTLY. IT WOULD BE LIKE ANY OTHER LAND USE AT THAT POINT, AND WE WOULD EVEN HAVE TO GENERATE POSSIBLY LIMITED USE AFFIDAVITS SPECIFIC TO THIS LAND USE, LIKE WE HAVE FOR MANY OF OUR OTHER LIMITED USES ALREADY. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. DO WE HAVE THE. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? COME ON UP. THANK YOU FOR DRESSING EASTER-Y TODAY. YEAH. ME, THE ONLY ONE UP HERE. MY HUSBAND MADE A COMMENT. HE SAID, Y'ALL, WE LOOK ALIKE. YOU KNOW THAT. WE WERE PREPARED FOR EASTER. HELLO. IF YOU'LL PLEASE SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. I'M TOMMY RAMIREZ, AND YOU CAN BRING THE MIC DOWN. OKAY. VERTICALLY CHALLENGED. SO, YOU WANT ME TO JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF. OKAY, SO MY HUSBAND AND I, THREE YEARS AGO, WE WENT TO GEORGIA. [00:40:02] WE'RE STUMBLING AROUND THE TOWN. I SEE A CAT CAFE. WHAT IS THIS? OH, MY GOSH, I LOVE THIS. SO, WE GO. HE HAS TO DRAG ME OUT OF THIS PLACE BECAUSE I'M JUST ENJOYING IT THAT MUCH. THREE YEARS LATER, I HAVEN'T STOPPED TALKING ABOUT IT. I THINK HE THOUGHT IT WOULD DIE DOWN AND I WOULD LEAVE IT ALONE. IT HAS NOT. AND SO, AS TIME HAS COME, I'VE BEEN DOING MORE RESEARCH. I'VE NOW CORRALLED HIM TO DOING RESEARCH WITH ME. AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA OF BRINGING IT TO GALVESTON BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH A LARGE POPULATION OF TOURISTS COMING IN. YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE SUMMER THAT ARE LOCAL THAT ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FUN TO DO THAT CAN BE KID FRIENDLY, ADULT FRIENDLY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ACTIVITY IS. I KNOW THAT THE IN GALVESTON, Y'ALL HAVE AN OVERPOPULATION OF CATS. THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. WE SPOKE WITH JOSH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL SEEM ON BOARD WITH WORKING TOGETHER. I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE THESE CATS. ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THEIR FOREVER HOMES. THEY'RE FREE RANGE. SO, THERE YOU CAN SEE THEM IN THEIR OWN NATURAL HOW THEY ACT NATURALLY, YOU KNOW, AND SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMBINATION. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HELP WITH THE OVERPOPULATION OF CATS WHILE HAVING A FUN AND ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. HOW DO YOU KEEP THE CATS FROM ESCAPING THE CAT CAFE? I'M JUST CURIOUS. NO, NO. THAT'S A GREAT. NO. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO, THERE WILL BE A WALL. THAT HAS TO BE SHEETROCK. WE WILL HAVE WINDOWS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CAFE SIDE INTO THE ROOM, BUT THERE'S A DOUBLE DOOR SYSTEM, SO THE CATS WILL HAVE TO REMAIN ON THAT SIDE AND THROUGH THAT DOUBLE DOOR SYSTEM THAT WILL KEEP THEM WITHIN THEIR LOUNGE. COME ON. YES, SIR. OH, OKAY. ONE, I WANT TO COMMEND YOUR HUSBAND FOR DOING RESEARCH ON A CATHOUSE AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT. BUT SERIOUSLY. OKAY, SO IN THIS, IN THIS CONCEPT, YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT FOOD BEVERAGE SERVICE. WHAT DOES THE GALVESTON COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAY CONCERNING THIS? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN UP SOMETHING NEW TO THEM ALSO. YES, SIR. SO, I HAD SPOKEN WITH THEM PREVIOUSLY PRIOR TO THIS, AND THEY SAID, LET'S GO STEP BY STEP, SEE IF THIS IS EVEN A POSSIBILITY. BUT OUR ITEMS WOULD BE PREPACKAGED FOOD ITEMS AND THE BEVERAGES WOULD BE MADE ON AT THAT LOCATION. OKAY. AND ANOTHER CONCERN THAT THE REASON WE HAVE SO MANY FERAL CATS IS THEY ARE VERY PROLIFIC. SO, ALL THESE CATS THAT WILL BE SPAYED NEUTERED, THAT WILL BE INSIDE THE FACILITY, YOU WON'T HAVE ANY FERTILE ANIMALS. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. AND I, I'M GOING TO BE WORKING WITH JOSH THAT WILL BE SCREENING THEM AND SAYING, THESE ARE GOOD CATS. NOT ONLY ARE THEY SPAYED NEUTERED, VACCINATED, BUT THEY'RE ALSO OF GOOD TEMPERAMENT TO BRING TO EVERYBODY. OKAY. COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI? YES, SIR. HOW MANY CATS DO YOU CURRENTLY OWN? I HAVE ONE, I HAVE ONE WE HAVE LOTS OF CHICKENS. A GUINEA, TWO DOGS AND ONE CAT. NOW YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, IF IT WERE ME, WE'D HAVE THIS MANY IF IT WERE UP TO HIM, YOU KNOW, MUCH LESS. SO, IT'S ALL ABOUT COMPROMISE IN A MARRIAGE, RIGHT? GREAT. I COMMEND YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND DOING THIS. ABSOLUTELY. AND I HAVE TO, LIKE YOU SAID, I HAVE TO GIVE KUDOS TO MY HUSBAND BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW HIS MBA WAS GOING TO BE TOWARDS HELPING ME WITH CATS IN A CAT CAFE. HE JUST FINISHED. AND HE'S LIKE, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M USING IT FOR. SO YEAH, GREAT SPORT. YES. SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. DO YOU GUYS HAVE A LOCATION IN MIND? I HAVE A LOCATION THAT I WOULD LOVE. I HAVEN'T I'VE BEEN TRYING TO NOT GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT IT JUST BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THE PROCESS WOULD TAKE A WHILE. AND I, ESPECIALLY WITH SPRING AND SUMMER COMING UP, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE PICKED UP QUICKLY. I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO THE GENTLEMAN AT THE HENLEY MARKET, AND WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING BACK AND FORTH, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND BUSINESS AND BUSINESS. IF IT'S NOT AVAILABLE, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. BUT THERE'S A COUPLE LOCATIONS THAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN AT THAT BUILDING. THERE'S A NUMBER OF CATS THAT YOU'LL HOUSE DEPEND ON THE AREA YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH. YES, SIR. SO, THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE 20 CATS, BUT IT'S FOR EVERY 50FT². SO, DEPENDING ON WHAT SIZE LOCATION I END UP BEING AND IT WOULD JUST DETERMINE HOW MANY CATS I WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE IN THAT SPACE. OKAY. AND THEN SO WITH I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL BUTTERFLY FARMS, AND THEY'VE GOT THE DOUBLE DOOR ENTRANCES, SO I THINK IT'S A SMART IDEA. [00:45:07] YOU GO IN THROUGH ONE DOOR, THEY CLOSE IT BEHIND YOU, THEN YOU GO INTO THE TO THE NEXT LOCATION WHERE THE BUTTERFLIES REST. SO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. WHAT KIND OF BEVERAGES DO YOU PLAN TO SERVE? SO, WE WOULD BE DOING ANYWHERE AS FAR AS COFFEES, BOBA TEAS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO DO WINE AND BEER. OKAY. AND IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN TO ME VERY SIMPLY WHAT, WHAT IS AN INTERACTION LIKE INSIDE OF A CAT CAFE. SURE. SO, YOU WOULD COME INTO THE CAFE SECTION, YOU WOULD PURCHASE WHATEVER BEVERAGE YOU'D LIKE. THERE'S A FEE TO GO INTO THE CAT LOUNGE. YOU CAN BRING YOUR FOOD ITEMS BEVERAGE ITEMS. ONCE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO GO IN. AND AT THAT POINT YOU CAN PLAY WITH THE CATS, INTERACT WITH THE CATS. IF YOU FIND ONE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT, THEN AWESOME. YOU'D BE ABLE TO ADOPT YOUR CAT WITH PROPER SCREENING, OF COURSE, THROUGH THE HUMANE SOCIETY. BUT IF YOU LOOK THROUGH CAT CAFES, THE NUMBER OF CATS THAT ARE BEING ADOPTED AND HAVING THESE CHANCES OF HAVING THEIR FOREVER HOMES IS AWESOME. SO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HELP OUT FOR SURE, BECAUSE THE INTERACTIONS ARE. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. DOG CAFES NEXT. YEAH, I KNOW. I KNOW MY SISTER'S A HUGE DOG LOVER, SO MAYBE SO. OKAY, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WHAT ABOUT ACCESS TO OUTDOORS? WILL YOU HAVE OUTDOOR ACCESS FOR THE ANIMALS? FOR THE ANIMALS? NO, SIR. NO. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HAVING PLENTY OF OUTSIDE LIGHTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT BEING ABLE TO TAKE THEM OUTSIDE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED. HOW DO YOU DISPOSE OF THE ANIMAL WASTE? WE PLAN TO HAVE A SECTION THAT WOULD BE FOR THEIR LITTER BOXES. SO, THERE WILL BE A DIVIDED OFF SECTION. ONCE YOU ARE CLEANING OUT THE LITTER BOXES, THERE WILL BE SEALED WITH LID CANS, JARS OR CONTAINERS. AND THEN YOU WOULD DISPOSE OF IT WITHIN THE TRASH. WHAT THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO DO, HOW THEY WANT US TO MANAGE WASTE, ACCORDING TO GALVESTON. BUT IT WOULD BE IN SEALED CONTAINERS UNTIL WE WOULD TAKE THOSE OUT AND THEY WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY CLEANED OUT REGULAR EVERY DAY FOR SURE, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE I'D LIKE TO BRING UP MR. HENDERSON FROM THE FROM THE SPCA. PLEASE, PLEASE COME UP. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. I THINK WE'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR. STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN FOR US ALL, PLEASE. I'M JOSH HENDERSON, I'M THE DIRECTOR AT THE GALVESTON ISLAND HUMANE SOCIETY, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH OUR SIDE OF THIS. SO, I GOT TO MEET TOMMY. AND HER HUSBAND DID COME UP TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. NOW BRINGING THIS ABOUT INITIALLY. SO. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE GALVESTON PETSMART, WE HAVE CATS THAT WE HAVE SIX CAGES WORTH OF CATS THERE. WE DO REALLY GOOD WITH OUR OFF-SITE ADOPTIONS FOR CATS. WE DID 45 OFF SITE EVENTS LAST YEAR THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE DOGS, TOO, BUT BEING ABLE TO TAKE DOGS TO THOSE NUMEROUS OFF-SITE EVENTS, IT'S EASY TO PUT A LEASH ON A DOG AND TAKE IT TO ALL THE VARIOUS PLACES WE GET INVITED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I DON'T GET SO MANY CATS THAT TAKE KINDLY TO BEING LEASHED AND TAKEN OUT TO FARMERS MARKETS AND SUCH, SO FINDING A PLACE LIKE PETSMART THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY HOUSE THEM THERE, CARE FOR THEM THERE, AND ULTIMATELY GET THEM ADOPTED WORKS REALLY WELL. NOW AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY, WE'VE GONE THE OTHER ROUTE AND MORE IN LINE WITH A CAT CAFE. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY CAT ROOM THAT ALLOWS YOU TO WALK IN, SIT ON A BENCH AND PLAY WITH CATS THAT ROAM FREELY THROUGHOUT THAT SPACE IN THE SHELTER. CATS THAT GO IN THERE TEND TO GET ADOPTED NICE AND EASY, BECAUSE THE CATS GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PICK THEIR PEOPLE, AS OPPOSED TO ONE CAT IN A CAGE. AND YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO GET THE CAT OUT. TAKE IT TO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN MEET IT. IT CUTS ALL THE MIDDLEMAN OUT, AND YOU ACTUALLY GET TO JUST WALK IN A ROOM AND INTERACT WITH THE CATS. WE DO HAVE CONVENIENTLY ALREADY A SELECTION PROCESS IN PLACE FOR HOW DO WE GO ABOUT SELECTING EIGHT CATS, TEN CATS, 20 CATS THAT COULD OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE? NUMBER ONE, GET ALONG WITHOUT NEVER ENDING CAT FIGHTS AND NOT ATTACK EVERY PERSON THAT COMES THROUGH THE DOOR. [00:50:06] OBVIOUSLY, SAFETY COMES FIRST, BOTH FOR THE PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE ANIMALS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SET UP FOR SUCCESS. AND SO WE WOULD USE A VERY SIMILAR SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE CATS THAT WE WOULD ALLOW TO ENTER INTO SUCH A CAT CAFE. THESE CATS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED ALL OF THE CATS PRIOR TO GOING INTO SUCH A SITUATION WOULD BE SPAYED OR NEUTERED. THEY WOULD ALL BE MICROCHIPPED. ALL OF OUR ANIMALS ARE TREATED FOR FLEAS AND PARASITES, AND SO WE WOULD BE SENDING HEALTHY CATS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF THEIR VACCINATIONS. PREVENTATIVES EFFECTIVELY, THESE CATS WOULD BE READY TO GO HOME STRAIGHT ADOPTION. AND CONVENIENTLY, ALL OF OUR ADOPTIONS ARE ABLE TO BE DONE REMOTELY. SO, WE COULD SET UP A PRETTY CONVENIENT SYSTEM. SO, IF YOU WERE TO WALK INTO THIS CAT CAFE, A CAT HAS CHOSEN YOU. YOU CAN SIT THERE, DRINK YOUR COFFEE, FILL OUT YOUR ADOPTION APPLICATION, AND MY STAFF AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY CAN PULL THAT UP. ALL YOU'D HAVE TO DO AT THAT POINT IS COME THROUGH THE HUMANE SOCIETY TO GET YOUR ADOPTION PACKET, YOUR GOODY BAGS AND YOUR HARD COPY DOCUMENTS, RABIES TAGS AND THINGS LIKE THIS. SO, I DO THINK IT'S DEFINITELY DOABLE FROM THE END OF THE HUMANE SOCIETY. AND WITH ANIMAL SERVICES BEING ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AS A ANIMAL ESTABLISHMENT, THAT ALSO COVERS THE ANIMAL WELFARE CONCERNS MUCH LIKE A CATTERY OR A KENNEL, THOSE FACILITIES ARE INSPECTED ON A YEARLY BASIS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE FACILITIES ARE SAFE FOR THE ANIMALS. AND SO THERE WOULD BE ENFORCEMENT OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S COMPLIANCE ON THAT END. AND HONESTLY, THESE POOR FOLKS WOULD GET IT FROM BOTH ENDS, BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE THEY HAVING TO SATISFY THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, THEY'VE ALSO GOT TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE IN SUCH A MANNER THAT WE AS THE HUMANE SOCIETY ARE COMFORTABLE. OFFERING OUR CATS FOR ADOPTION AT THEIR FACILITY. SO IT REALLY DOES KIND OF KEEP EVERYBODY DEFINITELY DOES KEEP EVERYBODY HONEST ON THAT END. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HENDERSON? YOU SAID YOUR AGENCY WOULD BE OVERSIGHT FOR THE FACILITY TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING? WELL, BECAUSE WE ARE, WE WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY SUPPLYING THE CATS FOR THE ORGANIZATION FOR THEM. IF THEY START THIS PLACE UP AND IT ALL JUST TURNS INTO MADNESS AND CHAOS, AND I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE SEND CATS THERE. THEN THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS BROKEN. AND SO, WHILE IT'S NOT OVERSIGHT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE CATS FROM SOMEWHERE. AND IF IT ALL TURNS TO CHAOS, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE MANY CATS. SO, OVERSIGHT IN THAT. UNDERSTOOD, ANTHONY. SO LET ME JUST UNDERSTAND. DID I MISS SOMETHING EARLIER? WAS THERE A IN HERE SOMETHING ABOUT AN APPROVED ANIMAL AGENCY? THAT'S YOU GUYS? NO, SIR. SO, WE ARE THE AT THE AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY. WE'RE NOT AN ENFORCEMENT ARM. ENFORCEMENT IS HANDLED THROUGH THE GALVESTON POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ANIMAL SERVICES UNIT. AND SO, THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICERS FOR THE CITY ALREADY ARE THE INSPECTING AGENCY FOR ALL OF THE OTHER ANIMAL. ANIMAL ESTABLISHMENTS ANIMAL SERVICES INSPECTS PLACES LIKE PETSMART AS WELL AS THE KENNEL AND CATTERY FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND. THIS WOULD ADD ANOTHER LAYER. THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER FACILITY THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEIR INSPECTION AND APPROVAL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYTHING? I'VE GOT AN OFFICER HERE FROM THE ANIMAL SERVICES UNIT. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO. OKAY. COME UP. YES. COME ON UP AND SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. I'M LIEUTENANT JOEL CALDWELL. I'M THE COMMANDER OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES UNIT FOR THE GALVESTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE MET A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WITH JOSH HENDERSON AND MR. LUNSFORD. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TO A COUPLE OF CAT CAFES. THERE'S ONE IN OSHKOSH, WISCONSIN, AND THERE'S ONE IN HOUSTON. EL GATO CAT HOUSE. IT IS A REALLY INTERESTING BUSINESS MODEL. [00:55:03] I THINK IT WILL DO GREAT FOR GETTING THESE CATS ADOPTED AND FROM OUR ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, WE REALLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT. WE CURRENTLY INSPECT EVERY KENNEL IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON. WE INSPECT PETSMART AND EVERY OTHER ANIMAL ESTABLISHMENT IN GALVESTON. THE RULES ARE SET UP VERY WELL IN THE DOCUMENT PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION. AND WE DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE AN ISSUE WITH THIS. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY, ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, OFFICER CALDWELL. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT AT 425. IS THERE ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE? NO. JUST SEEING THE APPLICANT. ANYBODY OVER HERE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT 4:26 AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A FOR CONSIDERATION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE 24ZA-002. WITH THE CAC, WE HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THIS ONE. YES, WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? KUDOS TO YOU ALL FOR SEEING THIS. I MEAN, IT'S A BUSINESS MODEL, BUT IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT BUSINESS MODEL, YOU HAVE HURDLES TO JUMP OVER. AND YOU NOT ONLY STUCK WITH THAT, BUT YOU HAVE PERSEVERED THROUGH ALL OF THIS, CHANGING THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS NOT DONE YET. YOU'RE NOT DONE YET. BUT ALRIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. NO. OPPOSED. MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. IF YOU ALLOW, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK DANIEL AND CATHERINE. YES, FOR THEIR WORK IN THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT REQUIRED QUITE A BIT OF COORDINATION THROUGH OTHER AGENCIES AND RESEARCH OUT THERE. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU PULL SOMETHING LIKE THIS UP ON THE INTERNET AND THERE IT GOES, 100 DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. SO, WHILE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND THE OVERALL ANIMALS' PERSPECTIVE KEEPING IT AT CATS WITH, LIKE THE APPLICANT WAS DISCUSSING MADE THE MOST SENSE BECAUSE DIFFERENT ANIMALS HAVE DIFFERENT EFFECTS AND, YOU KNOW, AND NOISE LEVELS AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO ANYHOW. THANKS, DANIEL. ABSOLUTELY. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS THE CORRECT PLACE TO SIT, BUT I ECHO. WHAT DO YOU THINK? LET'S ANSWER THE PHONE. EVERY SINGLE TIME I'VE CALLED YOU SO MANY TIMES. AND IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT TEXT AMENDMENT 24-ZA-003. [7.B.2. 24ZA-003 Request For A Text Amendment To The Galveston Land Development Regulations, Article 3: Yard, Lot, And Setback Standards To Amend The Broadway Design Standards. Applicant: Development Services Department] OKAY. SO, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE GALVESTON LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARTICLE THREE LOT YARD LOT SETBACK STANDARDS TO AMEND THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS. THE BACKGROUND THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS AND PERMITTED USES AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDED CHANGES. PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS FROM DECEMBER 2023 TO MARCH OF 2024. TOPICS REVIEWED IN THE WORKSHOPS INCLUDED. HISTORY OF DEVELOPMENT ON BROADWAY. HISTORY OF REGULATION ON BROADWAY. OVERVIEW OF CURRENT REGULATIONS AND PERMITTED USES, PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE REGULATIONS AND PERMITTED USES, AND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS FOR BROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR SOME MONTHS ON THIS, AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO BE YOU ALL WILL BE MAKING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. SO THE SUMMARY ADOPTED IN 2015, THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS ARE HOUSED IN ARTICLE THREE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. LDR COMMERCIAL ADDENDUM. THE STANDARDS APPLY TO NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ADDRESS BUILDING MASSING AND SCALE, BUILDING ORIENTATION, WINDOWS AND SPACING, SITE DEVELOPMENT, FENCING, PARKING AND RIGHT OF WAY TREATMENT. STAFF IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE RECOMMENDING CHANGES TO THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS, AS SHOWN IN THE EXHIBITS IN EXHIBIT A, EACH CHANGE HAS A NOTE EXPLAINING THE PURPOSE FOR THE CHANGE. THE FOLLOWING ARE OUR MAIN POINTS, WHICH ARE TO REORGANIZE THE STANDARDS TO GROUP SIMILAR REGULATIONS. DELETE VAGUE AND REDUNDANT LANGUAGE REFERENCE. STANDARD LAND USE TERMS THAT ARE USED IN THE LDR AND ESTABLISH A MINIMUM WIDTH FOR SHADE STRUCTURES. TO ENCOURAGE CANOPIES RATHER THAN AWNINGS, WE HAVE TWO MORE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES THAT WE'LL GO OVER. ONE IS THE TREATMENT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE CURRENT REGULATIONS REQUIRE THAT SIDEWALKS BE INSTALLED ALONG ALL STREET FRONTAGES. [01:00:01] ALONG BROADWAY. THIS IS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION ONLY. THE ALONG BROADWAY. THE CODE REQUIRES EITHER A SIX-FOOT-WIDE LANDSCAPE AREA ADJACENT TO THE CURB AND AN EIGHT-FOOT SIDEWALK, OR A 12-FOOT SIDEWALK ADJACENT TO THE CURB, ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PROVIDING LANDSCAPING AND PROVIDING A WIDER SIDEWALK COULD RESULT IN INCONSISTENT RIGHT OF WAY AREAS. THE PROPOSED CHANGE ELIMINATES THE WIDER SIDEWALK OPTION AND ALLOWS ONLY FOR THE SIX-FOOT-WIDE LANDSCAPING AREA AND EIGHT-FOOT-WIDE SIDEWALK. AND I'VE GOT ON THE NEXT SLIDE PICTURE. OH NO, WE DON'T AFTER THAT ONE. ONE MORE. OKAY, THERE WE GO. OKAY, SO I DID A. VISUAL. SO HERE IS A BLOCK THAT HAS A POTENTIAL FOR REDEVELOPMENT. SO, LET'S SAY THAT THAT PROPERTY ON THE LEFT IS REDEVELOPED. SO, ON THE NEXT SLIDE. WE'LL SHOW THE GREEN AREAS WOULD BE THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE AREA. IT'S REQUIRED TO BE SIX FEET IN WIDTH, AND THEN AN EIGHT-FOOT SIDEWALK BETWEEN THE LANDSCAPING AND THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR. TREES, STREET TREES AND OTHER SHRUBBERY AND PLANTINGS IN THAT AREA. SO, THE CURRENT REGULATIONS REQUIRE AN EIGHT-FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE SIDE STREETS. BUT WITHOUT THE LANDSCAPING AREA. SO, THE PROPOSED CHANGE PRESCRIBED THE SAME TREATMENT ON BROADWAY AND THE SIDE STREET. THESE CHANGES WILL PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AREAS AND ENSURE CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE PROPOSED CHANGE INCREASES LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE REQUIRED HEIGHT UPON PLANNING FOR STREET TREES IS INCREASED FROM 6FT TO 10FT, AND PALMS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE SUBSTITUTED FOR TREES. PALMS ARE NOT DESIRABLE. TREE PLANTING. STREET PLANTINGS. DUE TO THE LIMITED SHADE THAT THEY PRODUCE, THE INCREASED LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN UTILIZED ON PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS ON BROADWAY. THE NEXT CHANGE IS THE RESURRECT LOOPHOLE. THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS ARE HOUSED IN THE COMMERCIAL ADDENDUM IN ARTICLE THREE. HOWEVER, NOT ALL OF BROADWAY CORRIDOR IS ZONED COMMERCIAL. THERE ARE SOME LIMITED INSTANCES OF RESORT REC DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE BROADWAY STANDARDS ARE LOCATED ONLY IN THE COMMERCIAL ADDENDUM, THEY CANNOT BE APPLIED TO THOSE PROPERTIES ON BROADWAY THAT ARE ZONED TO RESORT REC. STAFF IS PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE THIS INCONSISTENCY BY INCLUDING A NOTE IN THE RESURRECT ADDENDUM REFERENCING THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS. AND THAT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE. SO, YOU SEE THAT NOTE? NUMBER EIGHT AT THE VERY END WILL REFERENCE FOLKS. THEN BACK TO THE COMMERCIAL STANDARDS. CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY ON THIS REQUEST, AND IT WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE APRIL 25TH MEETING AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CATHERINE. RIGHT. LET'S BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS OF STAFF. SORRY. CAN WE ALSO NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER EDWARDS HAD TO STEP OUT? RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI. SO, CATHERINE, AS WE SPOKE EARLIER, THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUILDINGS TO BE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY LINE, THE BROADWAY PROPERTY LINE. NO, IT DOESN'T. THAT REGULATION REMAINS. AND THAT IS REGULATED UNDER THIS H2 THAT IS REGULATED UNDER I BELIEVE YOU'RE RIGHT. YES. H TWO THE BILL TWO LINE THAT'S 70% OF THE BUILDING SHALL BE LOCATED AT THE BROADWAY BOULEVARD PROPERTY LINE. OKAY. AND. AND I GUESS H1 THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING. HAS TO BE ORIENTED TOWARDS BROADWAY AS WELL, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER. THEN THE BUILDING SHOULD BE FACING BROADWAY RATHER THAN THE SIDE STREET. OKAY. I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF MY BIG ISSUES, AND WHY I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE PUSHING TO HAVE THIS AREA LOOKED AT IN THE REGULATIONS. I THINK THIS. SOMEWHAT LIMITS CONSTRUCTABILITY AND JUST THE OVERALL. ESTHETICS THAT WE HAVE ON BROADWAY BECAUSE OF A REQUIREMENT LIKE THIS. WE'RE ALREADY SEEING AN EXAMPLE OF THIS AT THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS USED ON THE SCREEN HERE OF HAVING SOME HARD TIMES FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS TO TO DO NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT REALLY IN MY MIND. [01:05:01] IN MY OPINION, IT DOESN'T REALLY ENHANCE. PUSHING THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE. DOESN'T REALLY. SERVE ANY TRUE BENEFIT IN MY OPINION. AND SO, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I CAN BRING THAT UP AT A COUNCIL LEVEL WHEN IT GETS TO US. OR, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT HERE AND GET Y'ALL'S FEELINGS ON THAT AS WELL. SO, THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHT FOR NOW, I GUESS, AND JUST KIND OF WANT TO HEAR Y'ALL'S OPINION ON THAT. CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS. OR MAYBE. NO. NOW'S AS GOOD OF A. YOU BRING US UP TO DATE? KIND OF ON THE COUNCILS. CITY COUNCIL'S VIEW OR VISION FOR BROADWAY. I MEAN, WE HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH TRYING TO COME UP WITH MAKING IT LOOK BETTER, AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. I, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK WE ALL SAW THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. WHICH I THINK STAFF HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF GOING THROUGH THIS AND KIND OF AMENDING IT TO TAKE OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES AND KIND OF UNCERTAINTY HERE AND JUST GENERAL HOUSEKEEPING. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MAIN REASON. BUT THEN WE ALSO SAW THAT WE HAD A COUPLE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, MAJOR SITES FOR DEVELOPMENT, ONE BEING IN FRONT OF THE JUSTICE CENTER. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT SITE NOW, AND IT'S KIND OF, IT'S NOW, IT'S UNDER CONTRACT TO ANOTHER POTENTIAL BUYER TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. AND I THINK STAFF HAS KIND OF GONE THROUGH THE LAST ONE WHERE WE WERE SEEING A KIND OF A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT THERE AND SOME OTHER RETAIL SITES. AND I THINK WE ALL WANT TO SEE BROADWAY LOOK BETTER. I MEAN, YOU DRIVE DOWN BROADWAY. THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO GALVESTON, AND FRANKLY, IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT GREAT. I MEAN, IF YOU IF YOU KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE MEDIAN AND ALL THE TREES IN THE MEDIAN, THAT LOOKS THAT LOOKS WONDERFUL. BUT IF YOU TURN TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT AND LOOK AT, LOOK AT SOME OF THE STRUCTURES AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, NOT THE MOST ATTRACTIVE ENTRANCE. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO FIX THAT. IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO KIND OF MOVE THROUGH THESE PROCESSES OF ELIMINATING OR RENOVATING AND BRINGING ALL THAT STUFF UP TO KIND OF A HIGHER STANDARD THAT WE ALL EXPECT. SO, I THINK THAT'S JUST IN GENERAL, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE. LOOKING FOR, IF THAT HELPS. IT'S SUPER HARD TO DO THOUGH. I MEAN, IT IS HARD TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, 100 YEARS OF STUFF AND OF NEGLECT AND AND BRING THAT UP TO A STANDARD THAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE. STAN. WELL, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS. THE THING ABOUT THE BILL TWO LINE TO ME, I LOOK AT IF YOU GO BUILD TWO LINES WITH EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY AND ARE YOU BEING YOU'RE BEING CONSISTENT, BUT ARE YOU BEING CONSISTENT TO THE POINT OF MILITARY UNIFORM UNIFORMITY, WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURAL LEEWAY FOR PEOPLE TO COME UP AND SAY, WELL, I'VE GOT THIS IDEA, BUT I NEED THE SETBACK. SO, AND I GUESS WE COULD DO VARIANCES ON THAT. SEEING YES. NO, WE COULD DO VARIANCES ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, I GUESS. BUT I REALLY THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE SOMETHING INCUMBENT UPON THE CITY TO ADD SOMETHING TO THIS. AND THAT MEANS I THINK THEY NEED TO PUT, PUT A LITTLE FINANCIAL MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I THINK, THAT THE CITY COULD DO TO ENHANCE AND BEAUTIFY SIDEWALK AREA, RIGHT OF WAY AREA. THAT'S STILL THE CITY'S. AND I THINK SOME THINGS NEED TO BE DONE THERE. AND WE COULD DO THAT IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALLOCATING THE MONEY TOWARD THAT. SO, I'M GOOD WITH THESE APPROVALS. WE'VE GOT THE OPTIONS. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. BUT I STILL THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE CITY TO START ROLLING UP THEIR SLEEVES AND ADDING SOMETHING TO THIS. LET ME LET ME ADD ONE MORE THING WITH THE WITH THE PROPERTY LINE. REGULATION. IT WAS THOUGHT THAT THE REASONING BEHIND THAT ORIGINALLY AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CATHERINE, BECAUSE YOU'RE MORE THE EXPERT ON THIS. [01:10:08] BROADWAY WAS THOUGHT TO BE A WALKABLE STREET. AND SO, IF YOU IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A STREETSCAPE MORE WALKABLE, YOU WANT THE BUILDINGS PUSHED UP TO THE SIDEWALK, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK AS FAR. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WALK THROUGH A PARKING LOT TO GET TO A BUILDING. IF YOU HAVE A WALKABLE STREET. SO THAT WAS ONE REASON. SECOND REASON PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC INTERACTIONS. YOU WANT TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF DRIVEWAYS CROSSING A SIDEWALK WHERE CARS ARE INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE, TRYING TO GO INTO THOSE BUSINESSES. AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, BROADWAY IS NOT A VERY WALKABLE STREET. IT IS A SIX-LANE HIGHWAY, LITERALLY. AND SO. THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK THAT THIS REGULATION IS REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR BROADWAY. AND AGAIN, I'LL BRING UP THE TACO BELL VERSUS OTHER, YOU KNOW, VERSUS JACK IN THE BOX VERSUS DOMINO'S, WHICH IN MY OPINION, I'M DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, I'M COMING INTO TOWN, AND I SEE THE JACK, THE TACO BELL. IT'S SET BACK. THERE'S A PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF IT. IT'S GOT NICE LANDSCAPING IN FRONT OF IT. PERSONALLY, I PREFER THAT LOOK. THEN THE JACK IN THE BOX OR THE DOMINO'S. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE DOMINO'S DOESN'T REALLY LOOK BAD TO ME. BUT IT FOLLOWED THE REGULATIONS AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT, HOW THAT DOMINO'S LOOKS. SO, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OWN OPINION. I'M JUST ONE. AND SO, IT'S HARD TO PLEASE EVERYBODY. AND I'M LEARNING THAT YOU WILL NEVER PLEASE EVERYBODY. SO, YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN. AND BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT MAYBE STAFF CAN GIVE ME SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS. THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS SLATED. AT THE THE COURTHOUSE PROPERTY ON BROADWAY. I SAW RENDITIONS OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO THERE, AND THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, A STARBUCKS GOING IN THERE AND A RETAIL CENTER AND SOME OTHER KIND OF FAST FOOD STUFF. THEY IF I REMEMBER SEEING THE RENDITION CORRECTLY, THAT THEY WEREN'T PUSHED UP ON THAT PROPERTY LINE, THERE WAS ACTUALLY PARKING IN FRONT OF THAT. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE. AM I WRONG ON THAT? AND IF I AM RIGHT ABOUT THAT, HOW DID, HOW DO YOU DO IT ON THAT PROPERTY? AND YOU DON'T DO IT ON OTHER PROPERTIES? NO, I THINK FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT PROPOSAL WAS DRAFTED BEFORE THEY REALLY CONTACTED US. OKAY. AND WENT INTO DETAIL. SO THAT WOULD NOT BE. IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTABLE. OKAY. OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU HAVE PAD SITES AND YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AN ANCHOR STORE THAT'S BEHIND IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SPACE DEVELOPERS TYPICALLY WANT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THIS, THIS FRONT STREET FACING ASPECT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN BUILDINGS PUSHED BACK. BUT IN THIS CASE, OF COURSE, THAT THAT HAS A REAR STREET THAT HAS ACCESS. YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT. COUNCILMAN ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE NOTION OF THE ONE SIZE FITS ALL KIND OF PERSPECTIVE. AND IF YOU DO OR WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CRITERIA, WHETHER THAT'S SOME KIND OF VARIANCE PROCESS FOR, FOR PROPERTIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU. I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THAT IN THIS FORM BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL. YES. AND CONTINUE ON WITH, WITH THE WORK. OKAY. IF COUNCIL AND I'M SORRY IF THE COMMISSION SEES IT THAT WAY AS WELL. I JUST THAT'S, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION SO THAT WE COULD GET IT TO A POINT WHERE IT'S AT LEAST WITH THIS BODY, YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDABLE AND, IN YOUR EYES, TO COUNCIL. AND I WOULD HAVE TO SOMEWHAT AGREE. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS OUR FLAG IN THE SAND AS TO AS TO THIS THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS MAYBE WE. WHAT ARE OUR? CATHERINE? WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? WELL, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IF WHAT WE COULD DO IS FOR THIS CASE, WE COULD HOLD A WORKSHOP AT OUR NEXT MEETING. AND IN THAT TIME PERIOD, THEN STAFF CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME OPTIONS. LOOKING AT THE BUILD TO LINE, MAYBE MORE FLEXIBILITY AT THE BUILD TWO LINE TO PROVIDE FOR SOME LANDSCAPING AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING RATHER THAN JUST ABUTTING A [01:15:07] SIDEWALK AND LOOKING AT SOME FLEXIBILITY ON CURB CUTS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE THING TO DO. FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON THAT ON THE ON THAT SECTION THERE. THE REST IS, I MEAN, I THINK I KIND OF, I LIKE THE, THE MEAT OF THE OTHER. YEAH, I MEAN ABSOLUTELY. TEXT IN HERE. SO YEAH, I THINK IF YOU HAD IF YOU HAD SOME MEANS LIKE SETBACK CAN BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, SOMETHING SO THAT IT ENHANCES THE PROPERTY. MORE SO THAN JUST HAVING, YOU KNOW, A BARE AREA OUT THERE. I RECALL DURING THE BROADWAY DESIGN GUIDELINES PLAN THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF TEASER PARKING FOR SMALLER BUSINESSES WHERE WHEREIN, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SAY, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE LOT THAT'S NOT VERY WIDE, A DRIVEWAY COMING IN WITH A COUPLE OF SPACES ON EACH SIDE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S IT. SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES ARE QUITE SMALL AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, CAN'T ACCOMMODATE PARKING IN THE WAY THAT THEY OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE TO. I THINK THAT WAS A COMPONENT IN THAT PLAN AS WELL. AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN HYBRID OR HAVE A, HAVE AN OPTION. AND MAYBE THAT THAT OPTION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AGAIN, A ONE SIZE FITS ALL OPTION. IT COULD BE GEOGRAPHICALLY SPECIFIC BECAUSE IN CERTAIN AREAS OF, OF BROADWAY, IT'S PRETTY WELL DESIGNED. AND THE LAND USES ARE, ARE QUITE DECENT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE OTHER LAND USES AREN'T DECENT, I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT ASPECTS ALONG BROADWAY ESPECIALLY UP, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEST END AS YOU GET TOWARD THE FREEWAY, IT'S MUCH MORE SUBURBAN STYLE. THE EAST END, IT'S REALLY NOT. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME THINGS TO THROW OUT THERE FOR THOUGHT. YES. TO SPEED THIS PROCESS UP. COULD I JUST WORK WITH CATHERINE AND BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS TO PLANNING? SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO THIS BY THE NEXT MEETING, BUT IS THAT IS THAT DOABLE? I THINK IT'S DOABLE TO HAVE SOME OPTIONS BY THE NEXT MEETING. HAVE AT NEXT. WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AT THE NEXT MEETING BEFORE THE. YEAH. I THINK THESE THINGS ARE BEST DISCUSSED IN A WORKSHOP FORMAT. I AGREE. BUT WE COULD ALSO BE ON THE WE COULD DO THE WORKSHOP AND THEN IT COULD BE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA AS THE REGULAR. YES. THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE I MEAN, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY OPINION ON THAT? I MEAN, ON. I KNOW THAT WE'VE STRUGGLED TRYING TO COME UP WITH CONSISTENT STANDARDS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BROADWAY THAT LOOKS LIKE A NICE ENTRANCE AND NO, NOT A WALKABLE 100% AGREE. SO, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD APPROACH. THE ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL, I THINK. ALMOST GOT US TO THE BROADWAY THAT WE HAVE TODAY, SO I DON'T WANT TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION EITHER, THAT WE'VE GOT SO MANY VARIANCES THAT WE'VE GOT, AS WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE JACK IN THE BOX AND THE TACO BELL DIFFERENT, I MEAN, SO BY AREAS IS PROBABLY A VERY GOOD APPROACH. BUT WE DO NEED SOME DIRECTION BECAUSE WE'VE TRIED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED THIS OVER AND WE'VE TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. WE NEED HELP WITH THAT. THAT'S, I GUESS, WHAT I'M SAYING. AND IN THE WORKSHOP, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE THERE. OKAY. GIVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IF THERE LET'S SEE ANY MORE COMMENTS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF STAFF. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. AND OF COURSE, THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT. SO, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK START ON THIS SIDE? IT'S A REAL JUST A REAL QUICK COMMENT. I WILL TAKE EXCEPTION WITH IT BEING WALKABLE AND NOT WALKABLE IN THAT THE THIRD NICEST HIKE ON THIS ISLAND IS STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF BROADWAY THROUGH THOSE TREES. AND EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT GET KILLED AT EACH INTERSECTION. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT REALLY IS NICE THAT THAT'S ALL TO SAY THAT WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE ON THE ON THE RIGHT OF WAYS WHERE IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE WALKABLE? NOW, I DO AGREE WITH THAT VERY ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, THE 40S TO THE FIFTH IN THE INTO THE 50S. THAT'S A ROUGH, ROUGH SPOT TO MAKE THAT WALKABLE. AND ARE PEOPLE GOING TO WALK THAT? PROBABLY NOT. BUT FURTHER DOWN, MAYBE WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED WOULD BE A SECTION OF BROADWAY WHERE WE DO REALLY SUPER ENCOURAGE IT BEING WALKABLE AND NOT SO DANGEROUS, AS WE HAD THREE ARBORISTS AND ONE HISTORIC LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WALKING THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BROADWAY ESPLANADES JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND BACK. [01:20:04] SO, IT IS REALLY IT WASN'T SO HOT THAT NIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, JUST TO SAY THAT I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT THE, THE LAND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN CAME OUT OF, AND I DO THINK THAT THE 40S AND THE AND THE 50S ARE NOT GOING TO BE THAT WALKABLE VISION THAT WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE. ONE EXCEPTION WOULD BE AROUND THE OLEANDERS THAT'S LOOKING REALLY GREAT. AND THEY PLANTED A LOT OF TREES. THAT'S AND. LIKE. YEAH, AND THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IN THE 30S, GOING EAST BROADWAY LOOKS PRETTY GOOD, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET INTO THE, YOU KNOW, 25TH EAST. IT LOOKS AMAZING. AND IT IS VERY NICE TO WALK DOWN. YOU KNOW, YOU GO THE OTHER DIRECTION. IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF WORK. SO MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF FIND A DIVIDING LINE AND DO SOME DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. SO DO WE NEED TO MOVE TO DEFER THIS TO AFTER NOW THAT WE CLOSE PUBLIC EXCUSE ME CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING AT 4:51 P.M. AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO COMMISSION FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO DEFER. SECOND MOTION THAT WE DEFER TO 24-ZA-003. UNTIL NEXT MEETING. NEXT MEETING. THE 16TH. SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? RIGHT. SEEING THAT? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. [7.B.3. 24ZA-004 Request For A Text Amendment To The Galveston Land Development Regulations, Article 2: Uses And Supplemental Standards To Amend The Permitted Uses For The Broadway Corridor. Applicant: Development Services Department] LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE, PLEASE. WHAT IS THAT? 24-ZA-004. OKAY, SO THIS IS A COMPANION CASE. SAME BACKGROUND SECTION. THIS IS ADDRESSING THE PERMITTED USES ALLOWED ON BROADWAY. AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT ONE OF OUR WORKSHOPS. SO, STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE REVIEWED WE'RE MAKING THESE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE COMMERCIAL AND RESORT RECREATIONAL BASE ZONES, AND I CAN GO THROUGH THEM INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU WISH. OR YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OF STAFF. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE COULD GO THROUGH THEM. OH, QUESTIONS? YES. UP TO YOU. YEAH, I THINK THAT'D BE APPROPRIATE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THIS IS YES. AND IF YOU WOULD RECALL, THIS IS THE GRID THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WORKED THROUGH. AND MADE SOME CHANGES AROUND SOME OF THE LIMITED USE, AND THE MAJOR CHANGES HERE ARE REGARDING AUTO ORIENTED USES, WHICH IS A THING THAT'S HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IS THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY AUTO-RELATED USES ON BROADWAY. SO, THIS WILL NOT ALLOW FOR NEW THINGS LIKE PASSENGER MOTOR VEHICLE SALES AND CAR WASHES. YES. AND IT HELPS ALIGN. THERE WERE SOME LAND USES THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE BOAT SAILS AND BOAT REPAIR WERE TREATED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. GOLF CART SAILS AND GOLF CART REPAIR WERE TREATED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE ALL TREATED THE SAME SINCE THEY'RE SO SIMILAR. OKAY. YES. YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ANY PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR CAR WASHES ALONG BROADWAY THAT AREN'T CONSTRUCTED. THERE ARE NO PENDING PERMITS FOR CAR WASHES ALONG BROADWAY. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S. SO, THIS IS BASICALLY THE ONLY THING IS CHANGING IS FROM PERMITTED BY RIGHT TO LIMITED USE ON THESE. IN SOME CASES, IT'S CHANGING FROM PERMITTED BY RIGHT TO LIMITED. IN SOME CASES, IT'S ADDING IN SOME LIMITED STANDARDS THAT GEOGRAPHICALLY RESTRICT THEIR LOCATIONS FROM BEING ON BROADWAY. AND THAT WOULD BE PASSENGER MOTOR VEHICLE SALES AND VEHICLE WASH WHICH ONLY APPLIES TO NEW BUSINESS, NEW BUSINESSES. OKAY. I'M SORRY. ONE MORE QUESTION. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. THE LIMITS OF THIS STOP AT. IT'S. IT'S ALL THE WAY FROM SIXTH STREET TO THE BASE OF THE CAUSEWAY. SEAWALL. OH, REALLY? SEE. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THAT. YES. SO I'M SORRY I WAS CONFUSING THE BROADWAY STANDARDS. BROADWAY STANDARDS ARE ALL THE WAY. THESE USES STOP GENERALLY AT 59TH STREET, BECAUSE REALLY, THE CHARACTER CHANGES. AND SO ONCE YOU GET PAST 59TH STREET, WE SEE LOTS OF PASSENGER MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, AND IT'S AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR IT. [01:25:02] AND CAR WASHES. SAME. SO SO YOU COULD HAVE A CAR WASH AT HARBORSIDE AND 45 FOR INSTANCE. YES. YES. AND A AND A AUTO AND AN AUTO DEALER. AN AUTO DEALER. YES. OKAY. YEAH. OH YEAH. YEAH. YES. SO JUST JUST QUICKLY. SO, CATHERINE, ALL OF THESE ARE INSIDE OF AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL DISTRICT OR ZONING. THIS IS FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND THE RESURRECT ZONING DISTRICT, SINCE THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST COMMON ZONING DISTRICTS ON BROADWAY. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S FOR STAFF APPLICANT. IS THIS AGAIN THE CITY? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT AT 4:55 P.M.. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT 4:55 P.M. AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. 20 4ZA-004. I'LL SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING? NONE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. WOULD THAT BE WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE WE HOLD THAT FOR COUNCIL REVIEW UNTIL THE OTHER SECTION IS DONE, OR IS THAT YOU WANT THAT TO GO FORWARD INDIVIDUALLY. THAT'S A GOOD. WELL YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL HAD BEEN TO GET THESE THESE THINGS TO THE SAME COUNCIL THAT TASKED YOU WITH WITH THE WORK. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY APRIL 25TH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING WITH THAT EXISTING COUNCIL. SO WE COULD SEPARATE THE TWO AND KEEP. BUT THIS CAN WE MAKE THAT APRIL 25TH. SO IF WE MEET ON THE 16TH HERE. SO APRIL 17TH IS THE DEADLINE. OR US TO GET THINGS TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR THE. AND IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF. WE CAN START PREPPING IT NOW. THIS IS. IT'S POSSIBLE. IT'S POSSIBLE. WE CAN DO IT. WE CAN DO IT. WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP ON THE 16TH. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM THAT SAME DAY. WE WOULD DO BOTH. YEAH, WE YOU WOULD. YEAH. WE WOULD. YEAH. COOL. SO WE COULD HAVE WE WOULD DO BOTH. SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TO IF ASSUMING THAT WE PASS THAT ON THE 16TH, IT WOULD ALL GO AS ONE PACKAGE ON THE 17TH TO, TO SEE THAT IT'S REALLY BEEN OUR GOAL. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. YEAH. THEN I THINK LET'S. YES. AND IT'S MY FAULT FOR BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE AT THAT LAST WORKSHOP AND THEN SOME OTHER STUFF BROUGHT UP. SO I'M SORRY FOR DELAYING THIS. IT'S MY FAULT. I'LL TAKE I'LL TAKE THE BLAME ON THIS ONE. NO, WE WANT WE WANT A GOOD PRODUCT TO GO TO COUNCIL. YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK ON IT. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE WE VOTED TO APPROVE THAT. YES. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. MOVING ON TO ACTION ITEM £0.24 A-003. [7.C.1. 24PA-003 Planning Commission Recommendation To City Council Regarding Broadway Boulevard Improvements.] OKAY. SO AS MUCH AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT REGULATIONS, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WE'VE ALSO REALIZED THROUGH OUR WORKSHOPS IS THAT REGULATION ISN'T THE ISN'T THE SILVER BULLET. SO THE WE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REACHED THE FOLLOWING CONCLUSIONS REGARDING BROADWAY DEVELOPMENT AND POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS. THE BROADWAY STANDARDS HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PROVIDE FOR COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THERE ARE TOO FEW NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TO SEE IMMEDIATE CHANGES. SINCE 2008, WE'VE ONLY SEEN SEVEN NEW DEVELOPMENTS ON BROADWAY, AND ONLY TWO BUILD UNDER THE CURRENT REGULATIONS. WITH RELIANCE ONLY ON PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD TAKE DECADES TO SEE CHANGES ON BROADWAY, AND SO THAT CHANGES ON BROADWAY WILL TAKE ACTION. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS DISCUSSED THIS AT A COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS AND HAVE COME UP WITH THEIR RECOMMENDED ACTIONS. SO THIS IS A THE TIME IN WHICH YOU WILL VOTE ON IT AND FORMALLY PRESENT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR RECOMMENDED ACTIONS TO COUNCIL. SO THEY ARE STEPS THAT WE CAN TAKE BY THE CITY TO ADDRESS STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, NON-CONFORMITIES LACK OF PROTECTION FOR HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND CELEBRATION OF BROADWAY. SO THOSE ARE THE HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS. THERE ARE MEDIUM PRIORITY ITEMS THAT I THINK IT'S STILL IMPORTANT THAT COUNCIL KNOW THAT, THAT THEY ARE OPTIONS AND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TARGETED INTERVENTION, FINANCIAL INCENTIVES, FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS AND INCREASED ENFORCEMENT OF OBSOLETE SIGN REGULATIONS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE USE OF AMORTIZATION AND NOT RECOMMENDING THE USE OF THAT TOOL. AND SO WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN THE ITEMS, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THEM. OTHERWISE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. [01:30:02] FIRST OF ALL, CAN ANYBODY READ THAT? I GOT REALLY GOOD EYES AND I'M LIKE, OH MAN, IT'S TOUGH. YEAH IT IS. THANK YOU. CATHERINE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOR STAFF ON THESE? THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES. DIDN'T WE HAVE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES AS A PRIORITY? NO, IT'S A MEDIUM PRIORITY. SO IT'S NOT ONE THAT AT THE LAST WORKSHOP THAT THE COMMISSION REALLY IDENTIFIED AS BEING ONE OF THEIR TOP PRIORITIES, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE STILL WANT COUNCIL TO KNOW IS IS AN OPTION AND IS SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED. SO WHEN THIS GETS TO COUNCIL, HOW WITH PRIORITIES LIKE THAT, HOW DOES COUNCIL ADDRESS THAT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT INTERNALLY BEFORE WE DO THE PRESENTATION. YEAH, I THINK I THINK COUNCIL PROBABLY WOULD, WOULD YOU KNOW, THIS THIS COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE ANY POWER TO, TO ASCERTAIN MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND EARMARK IT TO A PROJECT AS SUCH OR WHATEVER. THAT'S COUNCIL'S DUTY. AND I THINK, I THINK PART OF THIS WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AS A STRATEGIES, AS THE LIST OF STRATEGIES. BUT THERE THERE CERTAINLY COULD BE IF COUNCIL CHOSE TO TAKE ON INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS ANY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A WORKSHOP AND DISCUSSION OF THEM. PROBABLY ALSO IN, IN, IN CONCERT WITH, YOU KNOW THE BROADWAY PLAN AND SAYING, HERE'S, HERE'S, HERE'S THE PLAN THAT SHOWED THESE OPTIONS, HERE'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S TAKE ON IT AND JUST KIND OF GOING OVER THEM. SO, SO AN EASY AN EASY ONE TO TO PROBABLY IMPLEMENT WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO A TAX ABATEMENT, AS WE SEE ON THE ON THE LAND MARK SIDE. YES. HISTORICAL CREDIT, HISTORICAL TAX CREDIT. WHAT AM I I'M. YEAH. FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO SO TAKING A PROGRAM LIKE THAT AND MIRRORING IT OR IMPLEMENT IT ON BROADWAY WOULD BE A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. RIGHT? OKAY. AND CATHERINE, JUST TO REMIND ME, THE NON-CONFORMITIES IS MOVING IT FROM 12 MONTHS TO SIX MONTHS. THAT'S RIGHT. FOR THE BUSINESSES. AND THE LACK OF PROTECTION IS TO EXPAND THE THE THE LIMIT TO 27TH, EXPAND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE EAST END HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THEN ESTABLISH A NEW HISTORIC DISTRICT. FROM LIKE 22ND, I THINK, TO 27TH. THAT'S THE MONUMENTS TEXAS HEROES MONUMENT DISTRICT. YEAH. SO THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WE. 27TH. 27TH. OKAY. AND THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS DOES NOT OVERLAP WITH WHAT WE WERE DEFERRING. REGARDING THE THE OTHER BROADWAY PIECE, BECAUSE THAT HAS LANDSCAPING AND IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH RIGHT. IT SO THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE A PROJECT DONE BY THE CITY. SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEEN DONE ON MARKET STREET IN 27TH STREET AND 45TH STREET THAT TARGETED SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAKE IT HARDER TO TURN A BIG TRUCK ON THE STREET. THOSE THINGS. BROADWAY HAS A LOT MORE ROOM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:03 P.M.. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:03 P.M. AND BRING IT BACK FOR FOR A VOTE. YEAH. OKAY. GOT AN AWFULLY BIG SHOES TO FILL OUT THERE. AS THE PUBLIC SPOKESPERSON. HAVE YOU DONE A GREAT JOB? YEAH. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, SO I MOVE TO APPROVE 24 PA DASH 003 AS WRITTEN. RIGHT THERE A SECOND GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. THAT BEING THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN FOR THE FOR THE DAY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. 5:04 P.M.. ADJOURN TO THE 16TH 16TH WORKSHOP. TWO 3016 16TH. ALL RIGHT. THANK. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.