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GOOD AFTERNOON. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

[Landmark Commission on April 1, 2024.]

[00:00:05]

TODAY IS APRIL 1ST AND IT IS 4:00.

WE'LL START THIS MEETING WITH A ATTENDANCE.

. THANK YOU.

OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF THE CASES WE ARE HEARING TODAY? NONE. MOVING ALONG APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES.

DO YOU SEE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE? IT'S KIND OF A SHORT BRIEF THERE.

OKAY. MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

CATHERINE, WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED.

OKAY. SO, WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO ASSOCIATED BUSINESS, OLD BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THIS WAS A LICENSE TO USE CASE.

THEY WERE PRESENTED TO US IN THE LAST MEETING AND WERE DEFERRED TO TODAY.

AND SO, WE HEARD THAT CASE NOW.

AND LET ME JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT I HAVE A CONFLICT ON THIS CASE.

I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THE STAFF REPORT.

I'M ONLY PRESENTING IT IN DANIEL'S ABSENCE TODAY.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO, THIS IS 24-LC-007.

IT WAS DEFERRED AT THE LAST MEETING.

IT'S ADJACENT TO 2202 STRAND.

THE REQUEST IS FOR A LICENSE TO USE FOR CONSTRUCTION FENCING.

PUBLIC NOTICE IS SENT WITH 13, THREE RETURNED.

THOSE THREE IN OPPOSITION.

THE SUMMARY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A LICENSE TO USE WL2 FOR THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY TO RETAIN CONSTRUCTION, FENCING, AND THE RIGHT OF WAY ASSOCIATED WITH ONGOING RENOVATIONS.

A TEMPORARY LICENSE TO USE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AT TLTU FOR CONSTRUCTION.

FENCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE RENOVATIONS HAS EXPIRED.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION FENCING REMAIN LONG ENOUGH FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED, WHICH THEY ESTIMATE TO BE JUNE 30TH OF 2024.

STAFF RECOMMENDS CASE 24-LC-007 REQUEST FOR A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING A LICENSE TO USE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

BE APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH FOUR AND STANDARD CONDITIONS FIVE THROUGH TEN.

AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE LICENSE TO USE REQUEST.

HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE AREA UNDER CONSIDERATION.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, SOUTH, EAST, SOUTH AND WEST.

AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SIR, THE TRANSIT COMMENT? NO INCREASE IN EXTENT OF L-2.

DOES THAT MEAN EXTENT IN TIME OR EXTENT IN AREA? I BELIEVE THAT MEANS EXTENT IN AREA.

OKAY. OKAY.

AND THIS IS JUST FOR 90 DAYS.

THAT'S NOT A MISPRINT.

THIS IS FOR THROUGH JUNE 30TH.

SO THAT 20 DAYS.

YEAH, THAT'S LONGER THAN 90 DAYS.

YEAH. AND THE CONDITION NUMBER TWO IS THAT THE LICENSE SHALL BE VALID UNTIL THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS ESTIMATED TO BE JUNE 30TH.

IS IT 90 DAYS FROM NOW? THAT'S, I'M NOT INTO THIS ADVANCED MATH.

IT LOOKS LIKE 90 DAYS TO ME.

JUST DOESN'T SEEM POSSIBLE, BUT.

OKAY. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS AREA THAT THEY'RE USING, THE PARKING SPACES ARE THERE.

THEY ACTUALLY PAY THE CITY A STIPEND TO USE THOSE PARKING SPACES.

IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT IT SAID IN THE REPORT BY POLICY? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WERE PROPERLY BILLED ON THE FIRST PART OF THIS.

THEY'RE PULLING THE PARKING SPACES OUT OF THEIR REQUEST.

OKAY, SO IT'S JUST THE SIDEWALK AT THIS POINT.

OH, OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. OKAY.

SO, I'M GOING TO ASK AT THIS TIME IF THE REPRESENTATIVE, MR. EASTERWOOD, OR PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS BRAD EASTERWOOD.

GOOD AFTERNOON TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

LIKE TIM HAD.

SURE. TECHNICAL QUESTION.

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SURE. WE'LL ASK HIM TO COME UP.

WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE THE MEETING FOR JUST A MINUTE WHILE THIS IS CHECKED OUT.

SORRY. SO, THE MEETING IS BROADCAST AS A PUBLIC MEETING ON FACEBOOK AND CHANNEL 16.

AND WHEN THERE'S A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY WITH IT THAT CAN'T BE BROADCAST.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH.

I THINK THAT WE'RE OKAY AS LONG AS THE AUDIO IS COMING, AND THE BROADCAST CAN BE OBTAINED AT ANY TIME LATER.

YEAH. DONNA'S CHECKING WITH THE CITY SECRETARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO OTHER ENTANGLEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET IT. TRY TO GET IT FIXED.

EITHER WAY, I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THE ISSUE IS, SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY.

I WANT MY TV TIME.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. THIS IS MY 30S OF FAME.

YOU'RE NOT TAKING IT AWAY.

OKAY.

OH, BOY. I'M GONNA WAIT TILL CATHERINE GIVES US THE GREEN LIGHT.

POSSESSED. CAN YOU STOP SHARING? YOU KNOW.

UP CLOSE OF COMMISSIONER ALBERSTADT.

OKAY. OKAY, OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD. LET'S.

OKAY. DO YOU MIND RESTATING YOUR NAME FOR ME? I'LL TAKE TWO.

I'M BRAD EASTERWOOD.

I'M THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT.

BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME WITH THE OWNER, KEITH BASSETT.

MY ADDRESS IS 125 25TH STREET.

IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

IT HAS TAKEN A LOT LONGER THAN WAS EXPECTED, BUT WE'RE LIKE.

LIKE TIM HAD SAID, WE'RE WITHDRAWING THE PARKING SPACES FROM THE REQUEST.

AND REALLY, IT'S THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, EXTERIOR WORK ON THE CAST IRON.

SO THAT WORK HAS TO OCCUR ON THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE THERE'S NO THERE'S NO OTHER PROPERTY LINE THERE.

SO, THERE'S NOT REALLY A GOOD SPOT OR A GOOD PLACE FOR US TO PUT MATERIALS FOR US TO PUT SCAFFOLDING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS UNLESS WE PUT IT ON THE SIDEWALK.

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SO, THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL ASKING FOR THAT REQUEST.

AND IF ANY PARKING IS TAKEN UP IN THE FUTURE, THEN THEY'RE JUST GOING TO PAY THE PAY THE DAILY RATE OF THAT ON THEIR OWN, ESSENTIALLY.

IS THE PLAN THERE? THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE TIME.

IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME, LIKE I SAID, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN SINCE 2008 AS SOME PUBLIC COMMENT WAS MADE. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE EVERYBODY'S ANXIOUS TO GET IT DONE.

AND GRACIE'S IS.

THEY'RE THRIVING.

THERE'S NOWHERE FOR US TO MOVE THAT MATERIAL INSIDE WITHOUT TOTALLY DISRUPT DISRUPTING THAT THAT BUSINESS OWNER.

SO, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ASK FOR THIS EXTENSION UNTIL JUNE 30TH FOR THE SIDEWALK THAT'S INDICATED THERE, BUT JUST REMOVING THE PARKING SPACES FROM THE REQUEST.

AND QUESTIONS.

AND ALSO, THE ONE OF THE APARTMENTS IS GOING TO BE ON THE HOMES TOUR THIS YEAR.

SO, I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS THERE.

CHECK IT OUT.

THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE INSIDE.

I WILL NOTE THAT I TOURED THIS BUILDING WITH THE CARPENTER, WHO'S A GOOD FRIEND, WHEN IT WAS COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED.

IT WAS COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED ON THE INSIDE.

GOT TO SEE THE STRUCTURE OF THIS THING.

AND HAVING DONE A HOUSE, AS YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE BITTY HOUSE, IT TOOK ME THREE YEARS.

I THOUGHT, HOLY COW.

OH, YEAH. THIS IS A PROJECT.

YES. SO, IT'S PHENOMENAL TO SEE IT GO FROM COLONEL BOBBY'S TO THIS.

YEAH. AND IT'S REALLY REMARKABLE.

BUILDING STRUCTURE TO THE STRAND.

NOW, WHERE BEFORE IT WAS JUST KIND OF A SAD EYESORE.

OH, MOST DEFINITELY.

IT'S MUCH IMPROVED. AND ONCE IT'S DONE, IT'S GOING TO BE REMARKABLE.

BUT THE.

YOU SHOULD SEE IT NOW.

I MEAN, A LOT OF THAT STUFF THAT YOU SAW THAT WAS DEMOLISHED HAS BEEN REUSED AND REPURPOSED IN THE IN THE APARTMENTS THEMSELVES.

AND IT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE WHAT THOSE CARPENTERS COULD DO AS CRAFTSMEN.

I'VE HAD SEVERAL TOURS ALONG THE WAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COOL.

WELL, YEAH.

IT'S IMPRESSIVE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? AFTERNOON. IF YOU COULD STEP UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN, PLEASE.

I'M ROBERT GIBBON, PRESIDENT OF GAW REALTOR.

WE OWN THE ROOF GARDEN BUILDING THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

YOU ALL GOT PICTURES OF SOME OF THE PHOTOS THAT I'VE TAKEN CONCERNING THIS ISSUE WITH THE SIDEWALK.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A VERY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED STREET WITH THE NEW JUBILEE.

A CRUISE SHIP COMING IN AND ALL THE OTHER FACILITIES OUT THERE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND WITH THIS STRUCTURE ON THE PUBLIC WALKWAY, IT AGAIN RESTRICTS ANYBODY FROM BEING ABLE TO WALK BESIDES IN THE STREET.

NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE PICTURE ON PAGE THREE, AS YOU ENTER UP THE STAIRCASE, THERE IS A LARGE PILE OF DIRT.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT IT SHOULD BE REMOVED.

SECOND ON PAGE FOUR, IF YOU WILL TELL ME WHICH.

I'VE ONLY BEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS FOR APPROXIMATELY 45 YEARS, IS ANY OF THAT MATERIAL YOU ALL SEE ON PAGE FOUR USABLE REPAIR MATERIAL? IS IT? THAT IS A PALLET.

THIS IS AN OLD PIECE.

SEE SOME OF THE ORIGINAL DOORS THEY'RE LYING ON THERE? TWO OF THOSE. THAT IS CORRECT.

AND I. OKAY.

SO THAT IS MY COMPLAINT TOWARDS THIS ISSUE.

IF WE CAN GET IT TAKEN CARE OF, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A MAIN EYESORE THAT LEAVES THE AREA AS WELL AS THE SAFETY FACTOR.

AGAIN, THIS WOOD LAYING ACROSS THIS BUILDING, IF FOR ANY REASON THIS WOOD WOULD CATCH FIRE, THEN OF COURSE WE'D HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BUILDING AS WELL AS IT'S ATTACHED TO MY BUILDING.

OKAY. SO, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT?

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I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SPEAK FIRST.

KEITH BASSETT, 12 CEDAR LAWN CIRCLE.

I AM THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING IN A LIMITED PARTNERSHIP.

AND JUST TO RESPOND TO A FEW THINGS THE PILE OF DIRT IS IN THE WAY, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER. AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT.

WE NEED A CURB FILL IN BACK IN THIS ORIGINAL LOADING AREA FOR THE WHICH WAS ORIGINAL COLONEL BUBBA'S WHERE THEY LOADED.

WE ARE GETTING ON THE LIST.

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE THERE YET TO HAVE THIS ENTIRE AREA REWORKED BY THE CITY CONCRETE CREW, AND I THINK WE WERE KEEPING THE FILL THERE BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FILL THAT NEEDS TO BE PLACED IN THIS, BUT IT IS KIND OF IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND I WILL GET IT MOVED IMMEDIATELY.

SO, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

THE STAIRCASE IS VERY HAPHAZARD AND PROBABLY NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT THERE.

I THINK MAYBE THE PREVIOUS OWNER, MEYERS, WERE PORTED HIMSELF.

IT LOOKS LIKE BUT WE WILL GET THAT CORRECTED.

AND THE FIRE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.

THIS THIS PICTURE IS A LITTLE YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE CAST IRON.

WE HAVE TO USE EXTENSIVE BRACING FOR ALL THE CAST IRON WHEN WE DO THE REPAIRS.

AND SO, WE REALLY NEED THE KIND OF THE FOOTPRINT THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.

SO, I DO APOLOGIZE THAT IT'S SUCH A WIDE AREA.

BUT WE ORIGINALLY WHEN WE WORK WITH THE CITY, THAT'S KIND OF THE AREA WE CAME UP WITH.

AND THEN AS REGARDING THE FIRE ISSUE, I DON'T THINK YOUR BUILDING HIS BUILDING IS FULLY SPRINKLED, BUT WE'RE FULLY SPRINKLED WITH THE PUMP SYSTEM, AND SO WE'RE NOT VERY WORRIED. AS WORRIED ABOUT FIRES AS, AS OTHERS.

WE'VE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN COMPLETELY RENOVATED.

AND EVERY SINGLE ROOM, INCLUDING THE ATTIC SPACE, IS ALL SPRINKLED.

SO, IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE'RE AS PREPARED AS YOU CAN BE FOR A FOR A FIRE, UNLIKE A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN.

SO, WE'RE PROUD OF, OF THE, YOU KNOW, RENOVATIONS WE'VE DONE ON THAT.

SO, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR.

THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK.

AND IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT ANYTHING.

THANK YOU.

I BET YOU SARAH'S GOT ONE FOR ME.

NOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE, THIS PICTURE HERE, AND THIS IS THE ONE WHERE THE COLUMNS ARE LEFT TO BE REDONE.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT'S THE ONE WE NEED TO DO PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE.

THERE'S ABOUT 75FT.

THAT STILL REMAINS.

OH WOW. OKAY, SO MOST OF THE COMPLICATED THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF PIECES THAT WE JUST GOT THE ENGINEERING BACK ON.

HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BRACE THE WALLS BEFORE WE BEFORE WE PUT ON THE COUPLE OF PIECES OF CAST IRON.

SO. OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SINCE THE OWNER HAS SPOKEN TO, I NOW HAVE TO SAY AGAIN.

OR CAN I CLOSE? OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS POINT.

SARAH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 24-LC-007 WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SHARON SECONDED IT.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE SITUATION IS DEFINITELY GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THE CAR SPACES ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE TAKEN UP WITH THE FENCING.

IT'S JUST ON THE SIDEWALK THERE.

SO CLOSE. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN'S CONCERNS.

I CAN ONLY RELATE IT TO MY OWN HOUSE, AND PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY I HAD A DUMPSTER OUTSIDE MY HOUSE FOR THREE YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK FOR JUST A LITTLE HOUSE.

THIS IS A HUGE BUILDING, THE MOODY BANK BUILDING.

AND WHEN I SAW IT, I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS THING'S IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

IT IS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

SO, TO SEE HOW FAR IT HAS COME I SYMPATHIZE WITH BOTH THE OWNER, BECAUSE I WAS IN A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE MY NEIGHBORS, WHO ARE VERY HAPPY NOW, BUT THEY WEREN'T AT THE TIME.

JUST PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH US WHILE WE GET THIS DONE.

SO, ANYBODY ELSE? NO? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. OKAY, MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

I GET MY GLASSES BACK OUT.

PAPERS SCATTERED EVERYWHERE HERE.

HERE WE GO.

OKAY, WE ARE MOVING ON TO CASE TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT OUT OF THE WAY.

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OKAY. WE'RE MOVING ON TO CASE 24-LC-009 1628 AVENUE L A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING DOOR REPLACEMENTS.

FIVE NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RETURNED.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REPLACE THREE DOORS WITH DOORS OF A DIFFERENT STYLE.

BECAUSE OF THE HOUSE'S ORIENTATION TO AVENUE L, ALL ARE CLEARLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

THIS INCLUDES THE MAIN GROUND FLOOR FRONT ENTRY, THE BALCONY ENTRY DIRECTLY ABOVE THIS, AND A FRONT FACING DOOR LOCATED ON THE WEST ADDITION.

PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

CONFORMANCE STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST PARTIALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

THE MODIFICATIONS ARE LOCATED IN LOCATION, A PRIMARY FACADE IN WHICH PRESERVATION AND REPAIR FEATURES IN PLACE IS THE PRIORITY.

THE DESIGN STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT ORIGINAL DOOR SIZES AND SHAPES SHOULD BE RETAINED.

HOWEVER, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, ALL THREE DOORS WERE INSTALLED AFTER HURRICANE ALICIA IN 1983 AND ARE NOT ORIGINAL.

FOR THIS REASON, STAFF IS MORE CONCERNED WITH THE REPLACEMENT DOORS THAT ARE INCOMPATIBLE APPEARANCE TO THE NATIONAL FOLK STYLE.

THE SINGLE DOORS WITH SIX PANE LIGHTS PROPOSED FOR THE DOWNSTAIRS WEST ADDITION AND FOR THE UPSTAIRS EAST DOOR ABOVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE ARE APPROPRIATE.

THESE ARE OF A SIMPLE DESIGN, BUT UNLIKELY TO BE MISTAKEN FOR HISTORIC DOORS.

THE APPLICANT SUBMITTAL APPEARS TO SHOW STAINED WOOD, BUT PAINT IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR EXTERIOR DOORS ON HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

STAFF HAS CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED FRONT DOOR REPLACEMENT.

THE EXISTING DOOR IS NOT ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE, AND THE PROPOSED REPLACEMENT DOOR AND SIDE LIGHTS PROPOSED TO BE REPRODUCTIONS OF THE CURRENT DOOR.

HOWEVER, THE DESIGN STANDARDS NOTE THAT ORIGINAL OR HISTORIC DOORS AND WINDOWS SHOULD BE RETAINED WHENEVER POSSIBLE, AND STAFF CANNOT VERIFY, BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL, THAT THE EXISTING DOOR IS ABSOLUTELY BEYOND REPAIR AND REUSE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE EXISTING FRONT DOOR BE RETAINED AND REBUILT AND REPAIRED, NOT REPLACED, AND REGARDLESS, THE FRONT DOOR SHOULD ALSO BE PAINTED AND NOT STAINED AS THE APPLICANT SUBMITTAL APPEARS TO INDICATE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REQUEST BE APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ONE.

THE EXTERIOR MODIFICATION SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN, MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT PRESENTED IN EXHIBIT A OF THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS.

THE EXISTING PRIMARY FRONT DOOR WITH TRANSOM AND SIDELIGHTS BE REBUILT, REPAIRED, BUT REMAIN IN PLACE, AND B REPLACEMENT DOOR SHALL BE PAINTED AND NOT STAINED.

ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX ARE STANDARD AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHOWING THE THREE DOORS PROPOSED TO BE REPLACED.

AND HERE THESE ARE HIGHLIGHTED FOR YOU.

NEXT SLIDE AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, SOUTH AND WEST.

AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

AND THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT THE REPLACEMENT DOOR THAT IS ASKING FOR IN THE PRIMARY LOCATION, A LOOKS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE DOOR THAT IS THERE NOW.

SO IS THE OBJECTION THAT THIS IS JUST A MORE MODERN RENDITION OR IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEW DOOR THAT YOU FIND TO BE VERY DIFFERENT IN SIZE AND SCALE TO WHAT'S THERE NOW, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED PICTURES THAT SHOW THE INSIDE BOTTOM OF THE SIDELIGHT IS ROTTED OUT.

AND SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE HE'S GOT WHY WOULD SOMEBODY OFTENTIMES WHAT WE SEE IS SOMEBODY WANTS A WHOLE NEW DOOR THAT DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THE ORIGINAL DOOR.

BUT I JUST WONDERED WHAT STAFF FOUND ABOUT THAT DOOR OTHER THAN IT WAS NEW TO NOT BE ACCEPTABLE.

RIGHT. SO, STAFF HAD CONCERNS ABOUT REPLACEMENT OF THE WHOLE FRAME, INCLUDING THE SIDELIGHTS AND THE TRANSOM.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO REPLACE ALL ELEMENTS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE MODIFIED THAT TO REPLACE THE SIDELIGHTS AND THE FRONT DOOR.

BUT YEAH, THAT WAS OUR CONCERN.

IS THE WHOLESALE REPLACEMENT.

OKAY IS THE REPLACEMENT DOOR THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL REQUEST.

IS IT THE SAME SIZE? I MEAN, WOULD IT ACTUALLY BE AN EVEN EXCHANGE INTO THE JAMB? YES. OKAY, SO IT'S THE SAME SIZE AND IT'S A SOLID WOOD DOOR, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S ORIGINAL.

WELL, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, IT'S NOT.

THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN IN THEIR FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME.

SO, THEIR HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE HOUSE IS THAT THAT DOOR DATES FROM THE 80S.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT.

WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? YES. IT'S JOSEPH HOLMES.

I ALWAYS GO BY JB.

SO, JOSEPH HOLMES.

MY WIFE CYNTHIA IS RIGHT BACK HERE.

WE ARE THE OWNERS OF THE HOME.

SO, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS A WHILE BACK, JUST KIND OF STEP BY STEP TRYING TO RENOVATE THIS HOUSE.

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AND IT'S BEEN A LOT.

IT'S THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1883.

BUT YES, AFTER ALICIA, WE STARTED WORKING ON IT.

AND AFTER IKE, WE DID MORE WORK TO IT.

SO WE'VE REPLACED BASICALLY ALL THEM DOORS.

ORIGINALLY, I DID TURN IN A REQUEST TO DO ALL THREE DOORS, LIKE DOOR A IN THE PHOTO THERE TO THE RIGHT.

I RECEIVED INFORMATION THAT IT WAS TWO DIFFERENT LOOKING THAN THE DOOR THAT'S THERE NOW.

SO I GOT WITH THE COMPANY THAT'S BUILDING THAT WANTS TO BUILD THE DOORS FOR US.

AND THEY SAID THEY'D SENT THAT RENDITION THERE.

AND ALL THE DOORS WILL BE PAINTED.

I KNOW THAT HE SENT IT STAINED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE PAINTING THEM.

IT WOULDN'T BE STAINED.

TRYING OUR BEST TO FOLLOW THE DESIGN STANDARDS TO MEET EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO MEET.

THE WAY THAT THE FRONT DOOR IS PUT IN NOW, THE SIDELIGHTS DO HAVE TO BE REPLACED, TOO.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S REALLY ODD HOW I KIND OF BUILT THE JAMB WHEN I PUT THAT DOOR IN, AND I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING.

SO, IT'S WE CAN'T EVEN HARDLY LOCK THE DOOR AS IT IS.

SO, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR US, TOO.

THE ACTUAL DOOR ITSELF.

WHAT IS THE AGE OF THAT DOOR? DON'T KNOW. I BOUGHT IT FROM THE SALVATION THE WAREHOUSE WHEN IT WAS ON 23RD STREET.

NOT WHEN IT WAS ON BROADWAY AND WHEN IT WAS IN THE LITTLE BUILDING BEHIND IT.

OKAY. I BOUGHT ALL THREE OF THEM DOORS THERE, AND IT THE HOUSE AT THAT POINT HAD BEEN UNOCCUPIED FOR 20 YEARS.

HER FAMILY BOUGHT THE HOUSE WHEN SHE WAS TWO YEARS OLD.

WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE, THERE WAS NO DOOR THERE.

NO, THEY HAD THE I GUESS THE PORCH HAD ORIGINALLY ROTTED OUT, AND THEY HAD JUST COVERED IT WITH PLYWOOD AND WAS USING THE WEST DOOR AS THE MAIN ENTRY DOOR.

OKAY. SO, THE DOOR THAT YOU WERE REQUESTING ORIGINALLY IS THE ONE THAT'S SHOWN IN THE STAINED GRADE, BUT YOU AGREED TO PAINT IT? YES. DID IT HAVE A TRANSOM ABOVE IT AND.

YES. AND CUT OFF THE TRANSOM.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THE TRANSOM IS NOT IN THAT PICTURE.

THE TRANSOM IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE.

OKAY, SO THIS DOOR LOOKS LIKE A REPLICA OF THE ONE THAT'S THERE, BUT IT'S SOLID AND IT'S NEW.

IS IT SOLID WOOD OR IS IT WOOD.

MAHOGANY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE TRIED TO MEET THE DESIGN DESIGN STANDARDS.

OKAY? SO, I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO TO FOLLOW THE, YOU KNOW, THE GUIDELINES TO MAKE SURE IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE DOOR THAT IS THERE.

YES. CURRENTLY WAS MODIFIED.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW THE DEADBOLT IS CUT INTO THE TRIM.

YES. IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE.

WE KNOW IT'S AN OLD DOOR RIGHT.

BUT WE ESTABLISHED IS IT'S NOT ORIGINAL TO THAT HOUSE.

CORRECT. BY YOUR TESTIMONY YOU PURCHASED THAT DOOR AT THE WAREHOUSE.

PUT IT THERE. YES, BUT IT WAS A GOOD CHOICE BECAUSE IT'S VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH.

YEAH, WHEN I SAW IT, I LOVED THE DOOR THAT ERA.

WAS THE TRANSOM ORIGINALLY THERE.

NOW THE TRANSOM WAS ORIGINALLY THERE.

OKAY. AND SO THE NEW DOOR THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, WOULD THAT BE REPLACING THE TRANSOM AS WELL, OR JUST THE DOOR AND THE SIDELIGHTS? I THINK WE CAN JUST DO THE DOOR AND THE SIDELIGHTS AND KEEP THE TRANSOM AS IS.

OR IF NOT, WE CAN REPLACE THE TRANSOM WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT ALL FIT.

YEAH. MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU KEEP AS MUCH OF WHAT YOU DO ORIGINALLY.

EXACTLY. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE SIDELIGHTS MATCH THE STYLE OF THE TRANSOM ABOVE.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING LEFT.

WELL, NOW, IF YOU DO LOOK, THEY DO MATCH THE SIDELIGHTS THAT ARE THERE.

NOW THEY HAVE THE SAME, WHAT DO THEY CALL THEM? SO THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF WENT BECAUSE THEY ARE ORIGINALLY WHEN THE DOOR BUILDER SENT US THIS, IT WAS ONE PIECE OF GLASS AND I SAID, NO, WE GOT TO HAVE IT TO MATCH AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WHAT'S THERE ALREADY? OKAY, SO WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING ME? LOOKS. EXACTLY OR SIMILAR.

I THINK IT'S AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CLOSER AND ALL THAT ON THE ORIGINAL DOORS RIGHT THERE IN THE SAME PLACE THAT THEY WERE BEFORE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT.

AND THAT DOOR AND THOSE SIDE LIGHTS WOULD FIT EXACTLY INTO THE SPACE OF WHAT'S THERE NOW, YOU WOULD JUST NOW HAVE A YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND MEASURE AND THEY WANT TO BUILD UP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT UNTIL WE KNOW WE CAN DO IT.

SURE, SURE.

BUT YOU WOULD NOW HAVE A SOLID STRUCTURE.

THAT'S EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS SUBJECT? WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS CASE.

LAURA. NO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. SARAH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

CASE 24-LC-009.

STRIKING STAFF'S MODIFICATION, A UNDER THEIR CONDITIONS AND ALLOWING A REPLACEMENT DOOR.

AS LONG AS ALL OF THE REPLACEMENT DOORS ARE PAINTED.

OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? JANE SECONDED.

DISCUSSION. I ALWAYS HOLD MY BREATH IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, BECAUSE THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE HERE IS TO

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TRY TO PROTECT HISTORY, THE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE HOUSES IN THE DISTRICTS THAT WE OVERSEE.

BUT CLEARLY BY YOUR OWN TESTAMENT, THAT IS NOT AN ORIGINAL DOOR TO THIS HOUSE.

THE TRANSOM IS BUT THE DOOR AND THE SIDELIGHTS ARE NOT.

AND CLEARLY THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THAT DOOR LOOKING ON THE PICTURE ON THE INSIDE.

SO, I THINK ALL OF US CAN RELATE TO THE IDEA THAT WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S SAFE.

YOU KNOW THAT LOCKS AND FUNCTIONS WELL AS A FRONT DOOR THAT'S USED MOST OFTEN DOES.

SO, I CERTAINLY SYMPATHIZE WITH YOUR SITUATION.

I MEAN, THERE'S THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE WE'VE HAD ORIGINAL DOORS THAT WERE IN REALLY BAD SHAPE, AND WE HELD TO THE BELIEF THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PRESERVE THE ORIGINAL.

IF NOT, AND IF IT CAN'T, THAT IT'S DUPLICATED TO THE VERY TEE.

BUT I THINK THE SITUATION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, AND THAT THAT DOOR WASN'T THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T THERE, AND WE KNOW IT WASN'T THERE.

AND SO, I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.

ANYBODY ELSE? NO.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING TO DISCUSS MID-APRIL? NO. OKAY.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.