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[00:00:03]

ALL RIGHT. IT'S THREE. IT'S 2:30.

[1. Call Meeting To Order]

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY THE 20TH.

WE WILL, START THE WORKSHOP FOR THE GALVESTON PLANNING COMMISSION.

CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

WE'VE ALL TAKEN ATTENDANCE.

ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEM AND TAKE IT AWAY.

[4.A. Discussion Of Direction From City Council To The Planning Commission Regarding Permitted Uses And Design Standards For Broadway. (Staff)]

WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS ABOUT A PROJECT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ASKED FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE ON, WHICH WAS BROADWAY, SPECIFICALLY TO REVIEW THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE PERMITTED USES.

SO WE'VE SPENT THE LAST SEVERAL WORKSHOPS REALLY DOING BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

WE LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF DEVELOPMENT ON BROADWAY.

WE'VE LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF REGULATION ON BROADWAY, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO REVIEWED THE CURRENT BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE PERMITTED USES, ALONG WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME CHANGES TO THE USES.

SO TODAY WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO OPTIONS FOR BROADWAY.

SO WHAT I'VE PASSED OUT IS, A CHART THAT LISTS THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT STAFF HAS DEVELOPED, AN EXPLANATION OF THEM, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER EACH ONE.

SO THAT'S IN THE SLIDESHOW.

WHAT TYPE OF REMEDY IT IS.

IS IT A CARROT OR IS IT A STICK.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S, AN INCENTIVE, A BENEFIT THAT'S A CARROT? OR IF IT'S SOMETHING MORE REGULATORY AND THAT IS A STICK.

ALSO LISTED SOME PROS AND CONS TO EACH ONE, AND THEN THE FINAL COLUMN IS BLANK, AND SO MY THOUGHT IS THAT AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION TODAY, THE COMMISSION CAN GO THROUGH AND RANK THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND SEE WHICH ONES YOU THINK WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL.

OKAY. NEXT SLIDE, AND SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ISSUES WITH BROADWAY DEVELOPMENT REGULATION.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN REGULATING BROADWAY SINCE THE 1990S, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF CHANGE.

THAT'S BECAUSE THE REGULATIONS ARE REALLY DEPENDENT ON PRIVATE REDEVELOPMENT, AND WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT ON BROADWAY.

IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, WE'VE ONLY SEEN A HANDFUL, 5 OR 6 SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.

SO WE HAVE A FEW NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

WE HAVE LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF NON-CONFORMITIES.

THERE'S A LACK OF PROTECTION FOR HISTORIC BUILDINGS.

I USE THAT WORD IN QUOTES BECAUSE HISTORIC CAN MEAN LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND SECTIONS OF BROADWAY REFLECT TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AT THE TIME THEY WERE DEVELOPMENT. SOME SECTIONS ARE MORE CAR ORIENTED BECAUSE THEY WERE DEVELOPED AT A TIME WHEN THE CAR WAS IN GREATER USE THAN THAN THE PEDESTRIAN SECTIONS.

OKAY. SO REALLY OUR BIG THINGS ARE REALLY WE'RE NOT SEEING CHANGE BECAUSE IT'S DEPENDENT ON PRIVATE REDEVELOPMENT.

SO WHAT'S THE SOLUTION.

THE CHANGE ON BROADWAY WILL REQUIRE ACTION.

THAT RESILIENCE RELIANCE ON PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

IT IT WILL TAKE DECADES TO SEE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ON BROADWAY.

SO WE'VE DEVELOPED SOME POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS, SOME REMEDIES THAT ARE MORE ACTION ORIENTED THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST.

SO WE WILL GO OVER THOSE.

THE FIRST ONE IS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS ON BROADWAY HAVE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE MEDIAN.

WE'VE SEEN SOME REALLY GOOD PROJECTS THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE REPLANTING OF THE TREES THAT WERE KILLED BY HURRICANE IKE.

THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROJECT THAT WE SAW SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT ON, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT KIND OF ATTENTION GIVEN TO THE PEDESTRIAN REALMS ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDES OF BROADWAY.

SO THERE COULD BE PROJECTS THERE WITH NEW SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, AND FORMALIZED PARALLEL PARKING.

WE'VE HAD SIMILAR PROJECTS ON 27TH STREET, 45TH STREET AND MARKET MARKET ESPECIALLY, HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.

THE CITY DID THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

ALL OF THESE NEW THINGS, NEW SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, AND WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT SECTION OF MARKET EAST WEST OF 25TH STREET.

SO THIS IS A SECTION FROM THAT BROADWAY PLAN THAT WAS DONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

THAT JUST SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON BROADWAY COULD LOOK LIKE, AND THEN IN THE NEXT SLIDE, THERE'S AN OVERVIEW.

THAT SHOWS, I GUESS.

YEAH. SO THERE'S AN OVERVIEW THAT SHOWS AGAIN, WHAT WHAT WHAT COULD AN IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN REALM ON BROADWAY LOOK LIKE? AND SO IT COULD BE GREENER.

IT COULD BE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO CROSS BROADWAY.

IF YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN, I DO IT SOMETIMES, AND IT TAKES TWO CYCLES.

YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL IN ONE GO.

SO ANYTHING THAT IMPROVES THAT CROSSING, WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE PEDESTRIAN AND TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AND, YOU KNOW, THE SAME SORT OF THING LIKE NEW LIGHTING AND SIDEWALK FURNITURE, STREET FURNITURE, LIKE YOU SEE ON THESE OTHER STREETS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPROVED.

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SO SOME PROS AND CONS THERE, OF COURSE.

THE PRO IS THAT THERE COULD BE INCREASED PRIVATE INVESTMENT, STIMULATE REDEVELOPMENT.

THE CONS WILL ALWAYS BE FUNDING THAT IT HAS TO BE FUNDED AND MAINTAINED, AND THEN ON BROADWAY YOU HAVE THE EXTRA LEVEL OF TXDOT JURISDICTION.

SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY OUR ROADWAY.

IT'S TXDOT'S ROADWAY.

SO THAT WOULD INVOLVE COORDINATION.

DO YOU WANT OUR COMMENTS IN CASE WE'RE GOING TO EACH ONE OR IN THE END? NO NO NO. EACH ONE I THINK.

I PARTICULARLY LIKE THIS IDEA, BUT IT POSES THE FUNDING QUESTION AND CERTAINLY WHERE WE'VE DONE LIKE, WAS IT 45TH STREET, WHERE WE'VE SEEN ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS DONE THERE, AND SEVERAL OTHER STREETS WHERE THAT HAS BEEN DONE? WHAT'S THE ONE OVER THERE BY KEMPNER PARK? WHAT STREET IS THAT? 27TH.

27TH? YEAH.

THE CURB CUTOUTS.

YEAH.

HOW LONG DID IT TAKE THAT PROJECT TO COME TO FRUITION? I DON'T KNOW.

OH, SO THAT'S NOT.

I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS, SO I DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND ON HOW LONG IT TOOK AND HOW IT WAS FUNDED AND HOW THEY.

SEEMS TO ME THAT 27TH STREET WENT PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT THAT COULD JUST BE MY IMPRESSION, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK.

I MEAN, I LIKE THAT IDEA, BUT.

HOW DO YOU GET THE MONEY AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE? SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

SO AND WE'RE JUST YOU'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

THAT COULD BE YOUR PIE IN THE SKY.

THIS IS WHAT WE'D LOVE TO SEE.

RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE NUTS AND BOLTS WOULD COME AT A LATER TIME IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL DECIDED THEY WANTED TO DO.

UNDERSTOOD. CATHERINE, THAT SLIDE BEFORE THAT PICTURE BEFORE, [INAUDIBLE]? THESE BOTH COME FROM THE BROADWAY, THAT BROADWAY PLAN FROM THE LATE TEENS, 2010'S.

SO REMIND ME THESE THE CURRENT REGULATIONS FOR BROADWAY ARE THE SAME LDRS FROM 2015? THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY.

SO I GUESS THE THING THAT I KEEP THINKING ABOUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BROADWAY IS A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.

RIGHT. THERE'S RETAIL, THERE'S AUTO FURNITURE, SOME RESTAURANTS, AND NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF, GYMS, BUT BASICALLY IT'S A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, SO YOU DON'T I MEAN, I DON'T LOOK AT IT AS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, LIKE THE STRAND OR SOME PORTIONS OF THE SEA WALL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

OR EVEN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ON MARKET STREET WAS THE 25TH.

SO, EVERYTHING'S POINTING TO THAT I CAN SEE IS SOME KIND OF INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR THE CURRENT BUSINESS OWNERS TO DO SOME REALLY SIMPLE, BEAUTIFICATION, AND THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF OUTREACH FROM THE CITY, BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAY, THERE'S NOT NEW CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ON BROADWAY, AND, UNTIL THERE IS I MEAN, THAT'S WHEN THESE REGULATIONS WOULD KICK IN.

I THINK SOME OF THESE IDEAS ARE GOOD ABOUT, ESPECIALLY THINGS AROUND, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF CHAIN LINK FENCES, YOU'VE GOT BARBED WIRE ON SOME OF THE FENCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, I GUESS BECAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT MORE AS IT IS A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR WITH SOME RETAIL.

IS THE BULK OF IT WEST OF 25TH ZONED COMMERCIAL? YEAH, MOST OF BROADWAY FROM 19TH STREET TO THE CAUSEWAY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.

OKAY. SOME POCKETS OF RES/REC BECAUSE THESE I MEAN, THESE SLIDES AND THEIR OTHER PRESENTATION YOU GAVE US A MONTH OR SO AGO ARE REALLY NICE, BUT IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT? GIVEN WHAT THE REALITY OF WHAT BROADWAY IS RIGHT NOW? YOU KNOW. SURE.

WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FACADE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT STAFF IS GOING TO BE LISTING.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M KIND OF IN KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, I MEAN, IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A MARKET STREET, WE KNOW THAT, BUT WE COULD MAKE IT WHERE IT IS ATTRACTIVE TO BE ON AND THAT MERCANTILE STORES AND EVERYTHING WOULD WANT TO HAVE A PLACE ON THERE.

NOW, GIVEN THAT YOU'VE ALSO GOT A PARKING ISSUE WITH ANYTHING ON BROADWAY.

YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S A GIVEN.

THERE'S SOME PLACES WHERE YOU CAN PARALLEL PARK AND THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PARALLEL PARK.

SO SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE ALONG THOSE LINES AND IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE SIDEWALKS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE I THINK TO ME THE THING I SEE DOING IS, LET'S TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME FACADE IMPROVEMENTS AND, MAYBE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES THAT WOULD IMPROVE PARKING, BE IT A PUBLIC PARKING AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH WOULD ENHANCE SOMEBODY TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THERE AND SELL MERCHANDISE THERE.

RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

THAT FURNITURE STORE, I'VE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES AND IT'S LIKE YOU'RE.

[00:10:04]

AM I IN THE STREET OR NOT IN THE STREET, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT YOUR WHEELS ON THE SIDEWALK OR NOT.

SO THERE'S PLACES OVER THERE THAT HAVE ISSUES, AND I KNOW THE MERCHANTS WOULD WANT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP APPEAL TO CUSTOMERS, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I COULD SEE. WE COULD GO NOW.

FIND ME THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, FIND ME SOMEBODY TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK.

THAT'S BEYOND ME.

SURE, AND SOMETHING ESPECIALLY ABOUT THAT, CONFUSION ABOUT PARALLEL PARKING ON BROADWAY WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT CAME UP DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BROADWAY PLAN, AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO FORMALIZE THE ON STREET PARKING.

SO IT'S MORE CLEAR TO THE USER ON ON WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ON THAT COULD BE ENGINEERED.

I JUST WANT TO JUST ADD MY LITTLE STORY HERE.

A WEEK AGO, I TOOK MY TRUCK TO BE INSPECTED WITH MY MECHANIC THERE AT 46TH AND BROADWAY.

SO I HAD TO DROP IT OFF.

I SAID, OKAY, I'M GOING TO WALK OVER TO THE NOPALITO AND GET SOME BREAKFAST AND COME BACK, AND IT WAS LIKE WALKING THROUGH A NO MAN'S LAND FROM 46TH AND BROADWAY OVER TO 43RD.

THEN, YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

YOU KNOW, THE COUPLE OF GYMS, BUT THOSE ARE ALL RELATIVELY NEW, BUT SO I JUST REMEMBER THAT IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, AND IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, IT TOOK EVERY BIT OF TWO TRAFFIC LIGHTS TO GET ACROSS BROADWAY. YOU GET TO THE MEDIAN AND YOU GOT TO STOP, AND THEN YOU GO ACROSS AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME, WHO SAW ME WALKING LIKE, WHERE IN THE WORLD IS HE GOING? BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T SEE A LOT OF, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON BROADWAY.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY STORY.

OKAY, IF THERE AREN'T ANY MORE COMMENTS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, WE CAN MOVE ON, TO REFINING THE PERMITTED USES, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, TO MODIFY THE PERMITTED USES TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

WE REVIEWED SOME PROPOSALS AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP.

ON THIS TYPE OF REMEDY IS A CODE AMENDMENT THAT GOES THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, SO IT CAN BE QUITE QUICKLY ADOPTED.

IT IS NOT REALLY A CARROT OR STICK.

ITS CODE AMENDMENTS ARE MORE KIND OF NEUTRAL.

IT WOULD HELP ALIGN THE CODE TO THE COMMUNITY'S GOALS, BUT ALSO ON THE CON SIDE COULD RESTRICT NEW BUSINESSES.

OKAY, AND THEN, ALONG THE SAME LINES, THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS.

WE COULD MODIFY THE BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS TO PROVIDE MORE ORGANIZATION AND CLARITY.

I'VE GOT A PROPOSAL I'LL PASS OUT AT THE END.

THAT DOES THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES, BUT, KIND OF REORGANIZES IT AND PROVIDES, SOME MORE CLARITY FOR INTERPRETATION, AND THEN WE COULD POSSIBLY REFINE THE STANDARDS TO BETTER REFLECT THE HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT RIGHT NOW, ALL THE REGULATIONS ALONG BROADWAY ARE THE SAME, AND IN THE PAST, THE BROADWAY DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS HAVE BEEN BROKEN UP TO BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE DIFFERENT ZONES, BUT SOME OF THEM BEING MORE PEDESTRIAN, MORE HISTORICAL, RELATED, AND SOME BEING MORE KIND OF AUTOMOBILE RELATED.

OKAY. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE TOPICS.

QUITE A BIT.

SO MOVING ON TO SOME MORE NEW TOPICS.

NON-CONFORMITIES. SO NON-CONFORMITIES IS THE TECHNICAL TERM FOR GRANDFATHERED.

SO YOU'LL SEE LOTS OF THINGS ON BROADWAY THAT DON'T CONFORM TO THE TODAY'S STANDARDS.

THEY WERE LEGAL WHEN THEY WERE PUT IN.

SO THEY ARE GRANDFATHERED.

THEY ARE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING.

RIGHT, AND SO THAT HAS TO DO WITH BUILDING SIGNS, FENCES AND ALSO USES.

SO IF YOU WERE OPERATING A CAR LOT WE CHANGED THE RULES.

SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A CAR LOT ANYMORE.

YOU CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE GRANDFATHERED STATUS.

THE NON-CONFORMITY STATUS, CONTINUES FOR A YEAR AFTER THE BUSINESS CLOSES.

SO IF YOU HAVE A CAR LOT.

CAR LOT CLOSES WITHIN ONE YEAR.

ANOTHER PERSON, ANOTHER BUSINESS ENTITY CAN COME AND REOPEN A CAR SHOP AT THAT, AT THAT LOCATION.

IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY THE GRANDFATHERING DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY CEASE.

IT CONTINUES FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THAT MEANS THE BUSINESSES CAN CLOSE AND THEN REOPEN AND THEN CLOSE AND THEN REOPEN, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY LEGALLY PERMITTED BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED.

SO WE COULD CONSIDER 365 DAYS IS A LONG TIME, AND MOST CITIES DON'T USE THAT STANDARD.

MOST CITIES USE THE STANDARD OF SIX MONTHS.

SO THAT GIVES SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT ISN'T THIS ENTIRE ONE YEAR PERIOD? SO ONE THING THAT COULD BE DONE, IS TO REDUCE THE DISCONTINUATION OF USE PERIOD FROM A YEAR TO SIX MONTHS. IT'S MORE COMMONLY USED.

IT ALSO ALIGNS WITH OUR OBSOLETE SIGN REGULATIONS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE, AND WOULD ENCOURAGE FOR THESE NON-CONFORMING USES TO CEASE.

SO THAT IS A CODE AMENDMENT AS WELL.

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IT COULD BE VIEWED AS A STICK.

IT COULD ELIMINATE NON-CONFORMING USES.

THE DISCONTINUATION OF USE IS NOT SPECIFIC TO BROADWAY.

IT'S SPECIFIC TO. IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO ANYTHING.

IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE ISLAND.

IT'S FOR EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO IT WOULD APPLY ISLAND WIDE, AND THE DISCONTINUATION OF USE MUST BE TRACKED, AND SO THAT CAN BE, SOME ADMINISTRATION, IT'S TYPICALLY THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE THE USE.

YOU HAVE TO SHOW US WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT USE OPERATED THERE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ACTIVELY HAVE TO TRACK, BUT STILL, THAT'S A CONSIDERATION.

SO WHEN YOU SAY. THAT MEAN EVERY TYPE OF SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE IS GRANDFATHERED? IF THE CODE CHANGES FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHATEVER, THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS TO CHANGE WITH IT.

SO, IT WOULDN'T JUST BE THIS ONE AREA OF THE ISLAND.

YEAH. OKAY.

YEAH. SO ISLAND WIDE IT'S ONE YEAR.

[INAUDIBLE] YEAH. SO IF SOMETHING IF A BUSINESS CLOSES, IT'S A NON-CONFORMING BUSINESS THAT CLOSES ON ONE DAY WITHIN 365 DAYS, WITHIN 664 DAYS, IT CAN BE REOPENED. MY QUESTION IS NOT ABOUT [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S EVERYTHING THAT'S GRANDFATHERED.

YES. GRANDFATHERED.

YES, IT'S ANY TYPE.

NO WAY TO LIMIT IT TO BROADWAY.

IT'D BE HARD. I MEAN, IT WOULD.

YEAH, THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVELY TRICKY.

OKAY. NOW THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE? OKAY. OKAY.

SO ANOTHER TYPE OF TOOL THAT CAN BE USED FOR NON-CONFORMITY IS AMORTIZATION.

NOW AMORTIZATION IS DIFFERENT IN THAT WITH THIS CONTINUATION OF USE THE BUSINESSHAS CEASED.

IT IS NO LONGER OPERATING.

SO WITH AMORTIZATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN USE.

SO A BUSINESS, FENCE, SIGN THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED BUT IS NON-CONFORMING.

A CITY CAN USE A TOOL CALLED AMORTIZATION TO DETERMINE THAT USE HAS GOTTEN.

IT'S BEEN ALLOWED FOR SUCH A LONG TIME THAT THE INVESTMENT HAS BEEN RECOUPED AND IT CAN NOW CEASE.

SO IT'S A PRETTY SERIOUS DEAL.

SO YOU'RE TELLING SOMEBODY WHO HAS A BUSINESS THAT'S A BAT, A BIG STICK.

[CHUCKLING] IT IS, IT IS.

THAT'S WHY IT SAYS RIGHT HERE, MAY BE UNPOPULAR.

[CHUCKLING] YEAH.

YEAH.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A MAYBE TO THAT, MAN.

THE FUNNY I'VE HEARD THAT RECENTLY BEFORE ABOUT SOME OTHER STUFF, AND THAT WAS WHEN I SAW THAT I WAS LIKE WOW.

IT'S A VERY SERIOUS TOOL.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY IN OUR TOOLBOX.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, NEW SET OF REGULATIONS AND A PROGRAM.

IT MAY BE UNPOPULAR, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT TEXAS COMMUNITIES TYPICALLY USE.

A LOT OF THEM HAVE IT, BUT THEY DON'T EXERCISE IT.

OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THAT'S GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.

YEAH. WHO HAS IT? WHAT COMMUNITY HAS THAT? MOST MAJOR TEXAS CITIES HAVE IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY USING IT.

THERE WAS A PROGRAM IN SAN ANTONIO MANY YEARS AGO, DECADES AGO, WHERE THEY WERE AMORTIZING THEIR SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES AND CLOSING THOSE OVER TIME. THERE'S A PRETTY STRONG COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR CLOSING YOUR SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD HAVE THAT SAME LEVEL OF SUPPORT.

YEAH, THAT'S A DOLLAR AT A TIME.

YEAH. SO IT'S MORE COMMONLY USED IF IT'S USED AT ALL FOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS, THINGS LIKE FENCES AND SIGNS. SO A MUCH SMALLER INVESTMENT THAN SOMEBODY'S ACTUAL BUSINESS.

SO THIS IS A TOOL AND I WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE BUT I IT MAY BE UNPOPULAR BUT I THINK FOR A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.

SO FOR EXAMPLE DENNY'S, WHEN THEY REBUILD THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT UP THAT BIG YELLOW SIGN WITH THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.

RIGHT, I MEAN WITHIN A YEAR THEY CAN.

SO THAT WAS DESTROYED THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN.

SO THEY ARE UNDER THE NON-CONFORMING GRANDFATHERING REGULATIONS.

SO WITHIN A YEAR THEY CAN REBUILD TO EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE.

BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER NEXT DOOR AT THE LA QUINTA, THE SIGN GOT KNOCKED DOWN ON A STORM OR SOMETHING, AND WERE THEY NOT ALLOWED TO PUT THE SAME SIGN BACK, SOMETHING CHANGED.

THEY THEY MAY HAVE JUST CHOSEN TO PUT UP A NEW CONFORMING SIGN.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE SITUATION OF LA QUINTA, BUT IT WAS A STORM THAT KNOCKED IT DOWN OR SOMETHING.

THERE WAS SOMETHING AND THEY WENT DID GO BACK WITH A CONFORMING SIGN.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON AMORTIZATION? JUST QUICKLY. SO IF YOU HAD A NATURAL DISASTER.

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DOES THE 365 DAYS APPLY TO THAT AS WELL FOR THE NON-CONFORMING? BECAUSE IF YOU MADE IT SIX MONTHS YOU KNOW.

YEAH. I'M JUST THINKING OF ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE CLOSED.

YOU KNOW WHEN WE HAVE A MAJOR I THINK DISASTER IN NATURAL DISASTERS YOU GET A TIME BONUS.

LOOK AND SEE WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY.

TIME BONUS. WELL, I JUST HATE TO SEE US CONSIDER MAKING A CHANGE FROM A YEAR TO SIX MONTHS, AND IT KIND OF ENDS UP.

WE KIND OF SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT IF WE HAD BECAUSE THAT'S LIKELY TO HAPPEN.

YES. SO THERE IS A CLAUSE IN OUR NON-CONFORMING STANDARDS THAT IF YOU'RE DAMAGED OR DESTROYED BY A NATURAL DISASTER, BA-BA-BA-BA, YOU MAY GET ANOTHER AN ADDITIONAL 365 DAYS.

OKAY. YOU DO GET YOU GET MORE TIME.

YES. IF YOU DID SIX MONTHS, THEN BASICALLY THEY'D HAVE 18 MONTHS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT NATURAL DISASTERS IN THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.

WE CAN IF THE COMMISSION WAS INTERESTED IN CHANGING THEM, WE COULD IN THE FUTURE.

I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING, BECAUSE THE BUILDING AT 13TH AND SEAWALL THAT'S, GONE THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS IS RESTAURANTS.

IT'S NOW EMPTY AGAIN, AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE PLACE THAT WAS THERE BEFORE, MAYBE TWO RESTAURANTS AGO.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IF IT IF SOMEONE OPENS UP A RESTAURANT IN THE 11TH MONTH, THEY CAN USE IT JUST AS IT IS.

IF IT'S AFTER THE 12TH MONTH, THEN THE NEW OCCUPANT IS NOT GRANDFATHERED.

AFTER THE 12TH MONTH, YOU HAVE TO MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS.

OKAY, SO IF RESTAURANTS WERE NO LONGER ALLOWED THERE, THEN THEY COULDN'T OPEN A RESTAURANT, BUT REGARDING THINGS LIKE SIGNAGE AND THE FACADE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD ALL APPLY. IT WOULD ALL APPLY.

OKAY. I KNOW AFTER A CATASTROPHIC EVENT LIKE A FLOOD.

YOU HAVE WITH YOUR INSURANCE POLICY.

FIVE YEARS. IF A CODE CHANGES, IF THE CODE DOESN'T CHANGE WITHIN THE FIVE YEARS, THEN THE YOU DON'T GET THE EXTRA FROM YOUR INSURANCE TO MATCH THE CODE.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF THROWING THAT OUT WITH THE TIMELINE.

IF YOU HAD A SHORTER TIMELINE AND YOU CHANGED, THE CODE WOULD BE ENFORCED SO THE OWNER COULD RECOUP THROUGH INSURANCE.

CODE CHANGES DURING THAT TIMELINE AS LONG AS IT HAPPENS WITHIN FIVE YEARS.

SO THERE WOULDN'T BE, A HARM TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IN A CATASTROPHIC EVENT.

YEAH. AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN FIVE YEARS, GOOD.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON AMORTIZATION? ALL RIGHT. IT MAY BE UNPOPULAR.

WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW.

OKAY, SO THIS IS A CARROT, BEAUTIFICATION, A FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

WE'VE TALKED THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROJECT ABOUT HOW THE INCENTIVES ARE GOING TO BE IMPORTANT, AND SO YOU COULD DEVELOP THE CITY, COULD DEVELOP A PROGRAM TO OFFER GRANTS OR LOW INTEREST LOANS TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR ENHANCING THE FACADES OF BUILDINGS, IMPROVING THEIR APPEARANCE, AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE OVERALL ESTHETIC IMPROVEMENT OF AN AREA SO THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF CHANGE TO THE BUILDING.

IT COULD BE AN IMPROVED PARKING AREA, IT COULD BE NEW LANDSCAPING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE A NEW PROGRAM, TO ENCOURAGE BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS, AND THEN A CON IS, OF COURSE, FUNDING THAT THE PROGRAM MUST BE ESTABLISHED, FUNDED AND MANAGED.

WE LOOKED AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS [INAUDIBLE].

IT. WE NEVER WENT REALLY ANYWHERE, BUT, WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS FOR THIS, BUT IT S EEMED LIKE IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT.

AND YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF A, SUBJECTIVE, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT COME WITH IT. IT WOULD ALMOST NEED TO BE GRANTS.

WHAT FOR? TO ACTUALLY HAVE, IN MY OPINION, SOME CHANCE OF WORKING.

EVEN THE GRANT. I MEAN, IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW.

WHAT DO YOU REALLY GET THE GRANT BASED ON? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IS IS WHAT THEY DO WITH THE GRANT MIGHT PLEASE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT PLEASE OTHER PEOPLE.

RIGHT. IT'S A IT'S A DIFFICULT ONE TO IMPLEMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN USING PUBLIC FUNDS.

THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, AND IT WOULD BE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE YOU KNOW THE BIG STICKER THERE IS FUNDED AND MANAGED.

SO, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER, POSITION.

WE HAVE TO BE CREATED WITH PEOPLE UNDERNEATH THAT POSITION.

SO BUDGET WISE, I MEAN, IT WOULD HIT THE CITY BUDGET A LITTLE BIT.

YES. PROBABLY FAIRLY GOOD BIT.

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I MEAN BECAUSE PERSONNEL AND EVERYTHING, NOT INCLUDING THE FUNDING, IT'S PRETTY AS IT IS.

THE FACADE SOUNDS LIKE SUCH A WINNER, AND MAYBE YOU COULD DO A TAX INCENTIVE INSTEAD OF DOING GRANTS.

SO HAVE A TAX INCENTIVE, INCENTIVIZE THEM BE A TAX REBATE OR A TAX LOCKING THEIR TAXES IN OVER X AMOUNT OF YEARS.

THAT, THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT REALLY CREATING SOMETHING.

POTENTIAL MONSTER THAT COULD CAUSE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES AND YOU'RE JUST, ALLOWING THE OWNER TO MAKE DETERMINATION THEMSELVES IF THEY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT TAX REFUND REBATE.

FREEZE OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT IT, BUT JUST GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CARROT.

THAT'D BE A REAL GOOD CARROT.

THAT'S A GOOD ONE. SO WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE LIST AND I'LL DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.

YOU KNOW BECAUSE NOW I'VE SAID GRANTS, BUT NOW THAT YOU KNOW THE FASTEST WAY TO FIX THAT PROBLEM IS PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

SO THE AVAILABILITY OF LOW INTEREST LOANS MAYBE COULD PROMOTE SOME OF THAT.

SO THAT'S.

PRIVATE ENTERPRISE WILL GET IT DONE A WHOLE LOT FASTER THAN THE CITY EVER WILL.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO PROMOTE SOME DEVELOPMENT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN DOING THAT.

I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IDC FUNDS.

I MEAN IDC'S AREN'T THAT'S NOT PRIVATE FUNDS.

THOSE ARE SALES TAX DOLLARS.

I THINK [INAUDIBLE] THEY WOULD BE MAKING LOANS TO PRIVATE ENTERPRISE AT A LOW RATE.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GIVING THEM THE MONEY.

THEY JUST HAVE ACCESS TO CHEAPER FUNDS FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO.

YEAH. MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK, BUT IT'D HAVE A LOT OF, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO LOOK AT I WOULD AGREE.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TALK TO, YOU KNOW, VISION GALVESTON OR SOME OF THE OTHER NONPROFITS ON THE ISLAND.

SEE IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW WE'RE, BACK TO ENFORCEMENT.

INCREASE ENFORCEMENT OF OBSOLETE SIGN REGULATIONS.

SO THE CURRENT CURRENTLY NONCONFORMING SIGNS HAVE TO BE REMOVED SIX MONTHS AFTER THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED.

SO ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THAT OUR DISCONTINUATION OF USE, AND OUR OBSOLETE SIGN STANDARDS AREN'T ALIGNING THERE.

SO WE COULD CHANGE THE DISCONTINUATION OF USE STANDARDS TO MORE CLOSELY ALIGN TO THE NONCONFORMING, OBSOLETE SIGN STANDARDS. SO THE CODE ALLOWS FOR THE CODE REQUIRES THAT NONCONFORMING SIGNS BE REMOVED AFTER SIX MONTHS AFTER THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED, AND THEN ALSO ALLOWS THE CITY, IF NO ACTION IS TAKEN BY THE OWNER TO REMOVE THE SIGN OURSELVES AND PLACE A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE COSTS INCURRED.

WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT, AND WE CURRENTLY ENFORCE NONCONFORMING SIGNS.

COMPLAINTS ON A COMPLAINT BASIS.

SO CITY MARSHAL'S NOT OUT THERE LOOKING FOR SIGNS TO COME DOWN.

THIS TYPE OF REMEDY IS ENFORCEMENT.

IT IS A STICK RATHER THAN A CARROT.

IT COULD ELIMINATE NONCONFORMING SIGNS THROUGH TIME, BUT WHAT WE FOUND IN THE FEW CASES THAT WE'VE DONE IT IS THAT ENFORCEMENT CAN BE LENGTHY.

YOU KNOW, POPEYE'S HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR ALMOST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, AND ITS SIGN IS STILL UP, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM TO TAKE IT DOWN.

SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT CAN TAKE, BUT THAT IS A TOOL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND THAT WE COULD BE USING STRONGER.

OKAY. ANOTHER THING THAT WE'VE HEARD IS A LACK OF PROTECTIONS FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES ALONG BROADWAY.

SO WE HAVE ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF BROADWAY IS DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS PART OF THE EAST END HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT STRETCHES FROM 19TH TO 11TH STREET AND TAKES IN BOTH SIDES OF BROADWAY, AND THEN WE HAVE JUST A HANDFUL OF INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNATED LANDMARKS. THE NEXT SLIDE, AND THAT IS 811 BROADWAY.

THAT'S THAT LITTLE ALLEY HOUSE.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY LOCATED IN THE EAST END HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THEN WAS ALLOWED TO MOVE OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT IN ORDER TO SAVE IT.

IT WAS ACTUALLY MOVED BY GHF, AND THE LANDMARK COMMISSION REQUIRED THAT IT BE DESIGNATED AT ITS NEW LOCATION SO THAT IT WOULD CONTINUE.

SINCE IT IT LIVED IN THE EAST END, IT HAD HISTORIC PROTECTION.

IT'S BEING MOVED OUT.

SO WE WANTED TO CONTINUE THAT HISTORIC PROTECTION.

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SO IT'S DESIGNATED AS, AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK.

SO IT'S ASHTON VILLA AND THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AT OPEN GATES, BUT NOT THE MAIN BUILDING, JUST THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AND THEN THE BROADWAY CEMETERIES, AND SO THOSE ARE THE EXISTING.

HISTORIC RESOURCES THAT ARE DESIGNATED AND PROTECTED.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHERS THAT AREN'T.

WE DID A STUDY IN 2017 THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BROADWAY COMMITTEE.

WE HIRED A HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONSULTANT TO SURVEY TWO AREAS.

TEXAS HEROES, REFERRING TO THE TEXAS HEROES MONUMENT.

BROADWAY FROM 21ST TO 27TH STREET, AND THEN ALSO TO STUDY THE EXPANSION OF THE EAST END, POSSIBLE EXPANSION ALONG BROADWAY FROM SEVENTH TO 11TH AND 19TH TO 21ST STREETS. SO THAT WORK WAS COMPLETED.

WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND THE CONSULTANT DID RECOMMEND DESIGNATION OF OF THIS HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE PROPOSED DISTRICT IS OUTLINED IN PURPLE, WHICH CAN BE A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT IT STRETCHES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF BROADWAY FROM 21ST ABOUT DOWN TO 20.

SEVENTH, I THINK, AND THEN TAKES IN A COUPLE OF BLOCKS SOUTH OF BROADWAY, BETWEEN BROADWAY AND THE SILK STOCKING HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR A NEW HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I'M SORRY. CATHERINE, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? WHAT IS THE STREET ON THIS SIDE? SO ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE SCREEN TOWARDS THE AUDIENCE, THAT'S 27TH STREET WHERE THE MOUSE IS.

NO, THAT. YEAH, THAT'S 27TH STREET OVER THERE.

THAT'S. YEAH, THAT'S 27TH STREET, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, CLOSER TO YOU ALL THAT IS BETWEEN 21ST AND 22ND.

OKAY. OKAY, AND SO THE COLORS THERE REPRESENT THE LEVEL OF PRIORITY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO THE BLUE AND THE GREEN ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, AND THEN THE YELLOW IS A LOW PRIORITY.

SO IT'S A FAIR NUMBER OF LOW PRIORITY BUILDINGS.

SO THOSE BUILDINGS WOULDN'T BE TREATED AS STRICTLY AS THE OTHER BUILDINGS IF THAT AREA BECAME A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATIONS TYPICALLY LED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN ACTUALLY BY THE CITY.

TYPICALLY WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD COLLECT, PETITIONS TO SEE IF.

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WERE INTERESTED IN IT, AND YOU'D NEED 50% PARTICIPATION OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THAT'S IF IT'S BEING INITIATED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE COUNCIL COULD DIRECT THE STAFF TO INITIATE A HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION WITHOUT HAVING THAT PETITION PROCESS, BUT YOU'D STILL ABSOLUTELY WANT THERE TO BE A PUBLIC PROCESS TO INFORM THE PEOPLE IN THAT DISTRICT WHAT WHAT HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION MEANS AND HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THEIR PROPERTIES.

SO THAT CAN BE, IT CAN BE A CARROT AND A STICK.

IT WOULD PROTECT HISTORIC RESOURCES AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER.

NEW HISTORIC DISTRICTS ON THE CON SIDE, CAN BE UNPOPULAR, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT HISTORIC REGULATION AND WHAT IT MEANS TO YOU AS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.

OKAY. SO THE NEXT SLIDE I THINK.

YEAH. SO THIS IS THE AREAS THAT WERE REVIEWED FOR THE EAST END.

DISTRICT EXPANSION.

SO IT'S A LITTLE POCKET WEST OF THE CURRENT BOUNDARY.

SO THAT IS BROADWAY AND I THINK 19TH TO 21ST.

THAT LITTLE SQUARE THERE AND THEN THE LARGER AREA IS THE AREA BETWEEN, THE CURRENT BOUNDARY EAST TO PROBABLY UNIVERSITY. SO THOSE AREAS WERE RECOMMENDED FOR DESIGNATION BASED ON THEIR. RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS.

SO NOT ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS, STRUCTURES IS MORE ABOUT RESIDENTIAL, AND I THINK THE BOUNDARIES ARE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, AND WE CAN JUST RUN THROUGH THOSE.

WHO MADE THE RECOMMENDATION? IT WAS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONSULTANT, THAT WAS DONE.

IT WAS, VENEZUELA GROUP, BUT THIS WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THE BROADWAY COMMITTEE THAT SUNSETTED AND NO FURTHER ACTION WAS TAKEN.

SO THIS NONE OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL OR TO LANDMARK COMMISSION.

WHEN WAS THE STUDY DONE? 2017. OKAY.

SO, THE THIS 2017 STUDY DID RECOMMEND THAT THESE TWO AREAS BE DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

IT WAS DONE IN 2017.

SO THAT DATA IS OUT OF DATE BY NOW.

THOSE AREAS ARE NOT DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC.

SO LOTS OF CHANGE CAN HAPPEN THERE.

SO WE NEED TO RE-REVIEW IT TO SEE IF THE RECOMMENDATION IS STILL VALID, AND THEN WE COULD SURVEY THE REMAINDER OF BROADWAY FOR POTENTIAL

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HISTORIC DISTRICTS OR GALVESTON LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS.

I'M SORRY, WHAT ARE THOSE BOUNDARIES? WHAT MADE HIM PICK ONE BLOCK AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER, OR TO GO TWO BLOCKS IN? AND THOSE WERE THE AREAS THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS INTERESTED IN STUDYING.

OKAY. SO I THINK DEFINITELY THE EAST END EXPANSION CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE AND THE TEXAS HEROES.

THIS AREA HERE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFICS ON WHY WE CHOSE THAT AREA.

OKAY. ALL RIGHTY.

SO THERE WAS OKAY.

IT WAS JUST THE VISION OF THE BOARD.

AT THAT TIME IT WAS NOT SO OKAY.

SO THE PROS FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION ARE PROTECTION FROM DEMOLITION, REVIEW OF EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS, AND THEN YOU DO GET A MORE IN-DEPTH REVIEW OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THE CONS WERE THE SURVEY WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDED AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS MAY BE UNPOPULAR.

WHY WOULD A HISTORIC DISTRICT BE UNPOPULAR? BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO BE TOLD WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

SO THAT MEANS ANY DISTRICT COULD BE UNPOPULAR.

OH, YEAH. I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE SIMPLE FACT OF. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BROADWAY AND STUFF WE WANT TO FIX FROM 25TH TO WHAT, NINTH STREET OR HOWEVER FAR IT GOES, I'M SURPRISED THAT THERE'S A GAP IN THERE.

I DON'T THINK WE WANT ANY OF THAT CHANGING.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE IT'S KIND OF TWO TIERED.

IN MY MIND'S EYE, WE HAVE THE STUFF THAT'S FURTHER NORTH OR WEST, AND THAT'S GOT ITS OWN SEPARATE ISSUES, BUT THEN WE HAVE OUR I MEAN, IN THAT AREA, THERE'S EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORICAL BUILDINGS IN THERE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO SERIOUSLY I MEAN, IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S COMMENT, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO CHANGE.

I DON'T THINK. RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHANGING ANY EXISTING BOUNDARIES, BUT TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF NEW, NEW BOUNDARIES.

YES, EXACTLY, AND THEN I KNOW THE STUDY IS SEVEN YEARS OLD NOW, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE A NEW SURVEY WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDED BECAUSE OF THERE'S JUST BEEN SO MANY CHANGES OR IT'S JUST BEEN THAT MUCH POTENTIAL FOR CHANGE.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, IN SEVEN YEARS, WE'VE SEEN PROPERTIES ON BROADWAY BE TORN DOWN, THESE UNRELATED, UNREGULATED RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THEY COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH RENOVATIONS THAT ARE NOT HISTORICALLY SYMPATHETIC, AND SO THE NUMBER OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES COULD HAVE CHANGED.

IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO RE-REVIEW THESE TWO AREAS BECAUSE THE BASE WORK IS DONE.

YES. SO THAT COULD PROBABLY BE DONE AT THE STAFF LEVEL, BUT IF WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THE REST OF BROADWAY FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A NEW PROJECT.

I'M NOT LOOKING TO GO BEYOND 27TH AT THE FURTHEST FOR SURE AT 25TH STREET, AND I'M JUST SURPRISED THERE'S A BIG GAP FROM 25TH TO 19TH STREET.

RUSTY, TOO, YOU ALSO THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT IS ZONING.

SO, YOU KNOW EAST IS NOT ZONED COMMERCIAL.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A HOUSE TORN DOWN, YOU KNOW, FROM 25TH STREET TO.

OH, THAT'S TRUE. IT'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THERE, AND SO YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THEM COME IN.

THEY'RE TORN DOWN AND BUILD A PAWN SHOP.

RIGHT. WORST CASE, YOU'D SEE THE HOUSE TORN DOWN AND BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE OR.

NO, YOU MIGHT NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN EITHER.

SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A VALID POINT THERE, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE OF THE ZONING.

THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S VERY TRUE.

THAT'S WHAT STAFF DOES ALL DAY, RIGHT? Y'ALL FIGURE ALL THIS STUFF OUT.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DO.

[CHUCKLING] OKAY, SO I THINK THAT'S THE END OF STAFF'S FROM PROPOSED REMEDIES.

SO YEAH, THE NEXT STEPS.

JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL BE REVIEWING THE VAPE SHOP RECOMMENDATION ON THURSDAY.

I AM NOT HERE FOR THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SO I THOUGHT WE WOULD SKIP THAT AND THEN JUST DO A WORKSHOP.

OUR NEXT WORKSHOP ON THE 19TH, AND THEN WE'RE JUST CONTINUE TO DEVELOP WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP THE MEETING ON MARCH 5TH.

WELL, YOU HAVE A MEETING, BUT YOU CAN'T MISS THE MEETING.

CAN'T MISS THE MEETING.

COULD DO ZOOM BACK TO JUST TO HEAR.

I HAVE A QUESTION HERE ON THE NONCONFORMING SIGNS THAT SAYS THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED IN SIX MONTHS.

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, CHANGING.

WE MENTIONED THE THING FROM 365 DOWN TO SIX MONTHS.

HOW HARD WOULD IT BE TO MAKE THAT A THREE MONTH TIME PERIOD, INSTEAD OF A SIX MONTH TIME PERIOD, TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE BUSINESS OWNER? I THINK THEY SHOULD BE THE SAME PERSONALLY.

BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU'RE ALLOWING THE BUSINESS TO POTENTIALLY TO CONTINUE BUT THEIR SIGN ISN'T CAN'T BE THERE ANYMORE, THAT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE UNFAIR TO ME.

OKAY, SO I THINK THEY SHOULD BE THE SAME.

OKAY, AND THEN SIX MONTHS FOR THE BUSINESS IS WHAT WE FIND IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

YES. OKAY. IT'S MORE COMMON THAN THAN THE YEAR.

OKAY. SO, CATHERINE, I SEE YOU HAVE OUR, RATING BOX TOO.

ARE YOU WANTING US TO KIND OF RATE THIS AND GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT OR ARE YOU KIND OF GOOD WITH OUR DISCUSSION.

OR IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION DOESN'T THINK ARE WORTH EXPLORING ANY FURTHER THAN WE COULD JUST TAKE THEM OFF THE TABLE.

WELL, I WOULD TAKE AMORTIZATION OFF.

RIGHT, THAT COMES RIGHT TO MIND AS ONE THAT MAYBE WE WON'T MOVE ANY FURTHER ON, AND I WOULD TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD WE FIND.

AGAIN IT'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO HOW DO YOU ANSWER THE FUNDING QUESTION? BECAUSE A NUMBER OF THESE THAT ARE LIKE, OH THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.

YEAH. HOW CAN YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA AT ALL HOW THAT WOULD BE FUNDED? I MEAN, WE COULD GO MAKE GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT IF THERE'S NO MONEY TO DO IT, HOW HOW DO WE FIGURE THAT PART OF IT OUT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI DID YOU ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE MONEY LAST, YOU KNOW, LAST.

[CHUCKLING] GET THE IDEA IN PLACE AND THEN GO RAISE TAXES.

[CHUCKLING] WELL, I DO THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THAT.

SO YOU DON'T WANT TO HOLD YOURSELF BACK FROM THIS IS GOING TO THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE NUTS AND BOLTS ON HOW IT WOULD BE FUNDED.

SO YOU COULD GO TO COUNCIL AND SAY, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD BE FUNDED, BUT WE THINK THIS WOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

IF IT'S TRULY A GREAT PROJECT, YOU'LL FIND THE MONEY.

YOU'LL FIND THE MONEY. THAT'S TRUE.

WELL, LIKE SOME OF THAT, THE FIRST LINE THERE, THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, LIGHTING CURBS, YOU KNOW, THE CURB APPEAL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE IT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR THAT WOULD IT SEEMS LIKE THE FUNDING ONUS WOULD BE ON THE CITY AND [INAUDIBLE] IT SOMEWHERE, AND THERE CAN BE GRAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THINGS THAT ARE PEDESTRIAN, IMPROVEMENTS RATHER THAN JUST AUTOMOBILE RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THERE COULD BE FUNDING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY AS WELL.

HOW COMPLICATED DOES IT GET WHEN YOU PUT TXDOT IN THE MIX? WELL, IT'S MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL BECAUSE IT IS THEIR STREET.

IT'S THEIR STREET, BUT THE FLIP SIDE IS THEY HAVE A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE DO.

SO DO THEY HAVE DOLLARS, FUNDS THAT ARE APPROPRIATED FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS? THEY COULD.

TREE PLANTING OR THINGS LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THEM ON A TREE PLANTING PROJECT FOR NOT JUST BROADWAY, BUT OTHER RIGHTS OF WAY THAT ARE UNDER THEIR CONTROL FOR LIKE, THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF BROADWAY.

[INAUDIBLE] WE SHOULD GO WITH JOHN'S PLAN.

WE'LL COME UP WITH A GOOD ONE AND WE'LL LET THOSE GUYS [INAUDIBLE] YEAH. AMEN. OKAY.

DO YOU WANT US TO? MAYBE SOME DISCUSSION.

WHAT TIME IS IT? OKAY, IT'S 3:15 ALMOST.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME DISCUSSING IT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN RANK THEM NOW AND GET BACK TO ME, OR IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT, THEN YOU CAN JUST EMAIL ME WITH WHAT YOUR YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.

IF YOU'RE NOT WANTING TO GET DOWN AND YOU KNOW ON PAPER YOUR NUMBERS RIGHT NOW.

WELL, ANTHONY BROUGHT UP HIS COMMENT OF CAN WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S SIMPLE? YOU KNOW, IT NEVER ENDS UP BEING SIMPLE, BUT, ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GET PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO SOME SORT OF SIMPLE BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT? THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FEED THEIR FAMILY AND RUN THEIR BUSINESS.

ABSOLUTELY. PERSONALLY, I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME MERIT TO EXPLORING.

I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THE.

WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET PRIVATE ENTERPRISE INVOLVED, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO THAT, BUT IF THERE WAS.

LOW INTEREST FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR SOMEBODY TO COME DO AN IMPROVED COMMERCIAL PROJECT ON BROADWAY TO A STANDARD THAT INCLUDES SOME BEAUTIFICATION.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.

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THAT GETS COMPLICATED.

OBVIOUSLY I KNOW SOME COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE GUYS AND THEY, WHEN YOU COME INTO LIKE A STRIP MALL BUILDING, THEY WILL FREEZE THE RATE FOR FIVE YEARS. YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, A TAX FREEZE OR SOMETHING TO INCENTIVIZE THEM AND ALSO TO HELP THEM START AND GROW A BUSINESS. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMERCIAL.

PRIVATE INDUSTRY OR PRIVATE INVESTMENT COMING INTO BROADWAY AND YOU COULD GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF INCENTIVE, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, I'LL FREEZE, I'LL FREEZE YOUR TAX RATE FOR FIVE YEARS, AND THEN WE'LL SEE.

WE'LL REEVALUATE, SEE HOW YOU'RE DOING.

WE HAVE THAT PROGRAM ON THE HISTORICAL SIDE CURRENTLY.

YOU KNOW, YOU DO A HISTORICAL RENOVATION AND THE CITY WILL FREEZE TAXES FOR.

WHAT'S THE MAX? TEN YEARS. TEN YEARS, AND IT'S DEPENDING ON WHAT IT'S DEPENDING ON THE VALUE YOU GET DIFFERENT, FREEZES, DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS ON THE FREEZE. YEP.

SO IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE AMOUNT OF YOUR INVESTMENT, AND SO, YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO, SOME KIND OF TAX INCENTIVE THAT MIMICS THAT PROGRAM. THERE'S ALSO A KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT YOU CAN DO WITH CITIES AND PRIVATE ENTITIES CALLED 380 AGREEMENTS, AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH LIKE REFUNDING YOUR, SALES TAX.

SO I'VE GOT THAT ON MY NOTES TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON TAX PROGRAMS. THAT ONLY FREEZES CITY TAXES.

SO YOU STILL PAY ALL YOUR OTHER COUNTY, GISD, ALL THOSE OTHER GOOD THINGS.

SO IT'S NOT A HUGE SAVINGS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING MIGHT INCENTIVIZE SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING.

I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS LOW INTEREST LOAN DEAL, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S A CAR LOT THAT'S FOR SALE, AND A DEVELOPER KNOWS THAT. OH, HEY, THERE'S SOME LOW INTEREST.

YOU KNOW, FINANCING, FUNDING OUT THERE FOR THESE, FOR ME TO DO A PROJECT HERE.

YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. MONEY MAKES THOSE DEALS HAPPEN.

YEP, AND BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WHO'S GOING TO GO BUY A CAR LOT ON BROADWAY UNLESS THEY WANT TO OPEN ANOTHER CAR LOT.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THERE, BUT IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMISSION IS TO EXPLORE MORE TAX INCENTIVES, MORE CARROT PROGRAMS. WE'LL LOOK INTO 380 AGREEMENTS AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE WITH THOSE, MORE INFORMATION ON LOW INTEREST LOANS, AND WE'RE TAKING AMORTIZATION OFF THE LIST.

KIND OF PROCESS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TO CHANGE THE NON-CONFORMING USES FROM 365 TO 6 MONTHS.

THAT'S JUST A TEXT AMENDMENT.

SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT GOES FROM STAFF WOULD WRITE A STAFF REPORT, PRESENT IT TO THE COMMISSION, IT GOES TO COUNCIL.

IT'S USUALLY ABOUT TWO MONTHS.

SO THINGS LIKE CODE AMENDMENTS ARE FAST COMPARED TO ANY OF THESE OTHERS.

REDEFINED BROADWAY DESIGN STANDARDS.

YEAH, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE.

YEAH. SO WHAT I THINK GOT TO DECIDE.

YEAH. YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE BEFORE YOU OFFER PEOPLE INCENTIVES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THAT.

START WITH THAT, AND THEN THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES LOW INTEREST LOANS, GRANTS AND TAX INCENTIVES.

YEAH. SO I THINK THE TWO THINGS THAT WE, SHOULD DO IS THE SECOND AND THIRD REFINE THE PERMITTED USES AND REFINE THE BROADWAY STANDARDS.

THAT WAS YOUR BRIEF FROM COUNCIL.

SO WE SHOULD BE RESPONDING TO THAT.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE USES.

SO WE HAVE A BASELINE THERE FOR MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN I'M GOING TO PASS OUT THESE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BROADWAY STANDARDS, WHICH ARE MOSTLY, LIKE I SAID, ORGANIZATIONAL, BUT AND THEN SOME CLARIFICATIONS, AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE DOING THESE TWO, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THOSE AND THEN RANK THESE OTHERS FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.

YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT MARY JAN.

YEAH, IT REALLY IS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM THAT.

SO THAT'S VERY GOOD, AND THEN IS THERE IS THERE A ANY KIND OF ORGANIZED ACTIVITY, LIKE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER AND BUSINESS OWNERS ON BROADWAY? I THINK IT DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE BUY IN WITH PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT THEY WHAT THEY WOULD ENVISION FOR THE CORRIDOR SINCE THEY'RE THERE EVERY DAY.

SURE. WE DID THE COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER VISION, GALVESTON, THAT WHOLE THING.

WE DID A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH DURING THAT BROADWAY PLAN.

SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE BROADWAY PLAN AND LOOK AT THAT, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT PARTICIPATION FROM BROADWAY PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS THROUGH THAT, AND IT WAS IT WAS ALL PRETTY POSITIVE.

OKAY. PRETTY MUCH ALIGNED.

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THANK YOU. ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT I THINK IS A POTENTIAL YOU GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT IS PARKING.

SO WHERE ARE WE ON ANY OF THAT? IS THERE SOME PARKING RECOMMENDATIONS IN ANY OF THE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE? WELL, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO PARKING, BESIDES THE FORMALIZATION OF THE PARKING ON THE SIDES OF, ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDES OF BROADWAY, BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER THAT BEING A BIG CONVERSATION IN THE EXACT SAME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TODAY ABOUT HOW YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW HOW TO PARK THERE AND YOU DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT ALWAYS CLEAR HOW TO INTERACT WITH IT, BUT I'LL LOOK AND SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, AND THEY'RE NICE AS A PEDESTRIAN BECAUSE IT CUTS DOWN YOUR AMOUNT OF TRAVEL TIME, YOUR TRAVEL DISTANCE BECAUSE YOU CAN STAND OUT AND GET CLOSER TO YOUR DESTINATION.

ALL RIGHT. COOL. ANYTHING ELSE? CATHERINE. NOTHING ELSE FROM STAFF.

ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL ADJOURN THE WORKSHOP AND WE'LL.

YES, MA'AM, I WANTED TO.

YEAH, LOOKING AT IT.

OH, WELL. THANK YOU, AND NARROWING IT.

THANK YOU, AND IF YOU'LL IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THE MEETING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, THEN JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL AND WE'LL BE READY TO TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE 19TH, AND I'LL PASS OUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU TO REVIEW, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THEM ON THE 19TH.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THEN WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.