Feb 20, 2024 Planning Commission

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GOOD. TALK TO HIM, AND.

ALL RIGHT, WE WILL CALL THE THREE THE FEBRUARY 20TH CITY OF GALVESTON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

[1. Call Meeting To Order]

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[4. Approval Of Minutes]

AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THOSE AS OR ACCEPT THOSE AS APPROVED.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR OLD BUSINESS.

[6.A.1. 23P-051 (3027 Broadway/Avenue J) Request For A Planned Unit Development (PUD) Overlay District To Construct A “Restaurant, Drive-In / Through”. Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, Lots 1 & 2, Block 150, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Ernesto Quintanilla Property Owner: Three R Trusts]

I SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO DEFER THAT CASE.

UNTIL WHAT'S THE DATE? CATHERINE? MARCH 5TH, AND I'LL JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, WE HAVE A DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTAL OF THE REVISED SITE PLAN OF FEBRUARY 23RD, AND IF THAT'S MISSED, THEN THE APPLICATION WILL BECOME DORMANT AND ANY NEW APPLICATION WILL BE TREATED.

ANY SUBSEQUENT APPLICATION WILL BE TREATED AS A NEW APPLICATION.

UNDERSTOOD. ALL RIGHT, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEFER 23P-051 SECOND AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

NEW BUSINESS 24P-004.

[7.A.1. 24P-004 (Adjacent To 3802 Broadway / Avenue J) Request For An Abandonment Of Approximately 749.5 Square-Feet Of Alley Right-Of-Way. Adjacent Properties Are Legally Described As The East ¼ Of Lot 5, Lots 6 - 9, And The East Half Of Lot 10, Block 218, In The City And County Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Michael Gaertner, Architect Adjacent Property Owner: ASSS Capital, LLC C/O Rafiq Wazir Ali Easement Holder: City Of Galveston]

JUST NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD, THE STAFF REPORT MAY SAY 24P-001, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY, 004.

THIS IS ADJACENT TO 3802 BROADWAY AVENUE J 29 PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT.

NONE OF THOSE RETURNED.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR AN ABANDONMENT.

THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS FROM ANY CITY DEPARTMENT OR PRIVATE UTILITIES.

IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN ABANDONMENT OF THE REMAINING 749.5FT² OF ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY ADJACENT TO 3802 BROADWAY.

A PORTION OF THE ALLEY TO BE ABANDONED IS OCCUPIED BY A CONCRETE BUILDING COMMONLY KNOWN AS MIGUELITO TAQUERIA.

STAFF FINDS THAT THE ABANDONMENT WILL NOT HAVE ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS REQUEST TO BE, BE APPROVED WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS LISTED AS ONE THROUGH FIVE AND STANDARD CONDITIONS SIX THROUGH EIGHT ON PAGE THREE OF YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND NOW WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.

THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE ACTUAL BUILDING, AND ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, IT'S THE ACTUAL SUBJECT ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY PROPOSED TO BE ABANDONED, AND HERE ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST, AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, ADRIEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? ANY COMMENTS? GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

HOW IN THE WORLD DID WE EVER GET THIS WEIRD THING? BUT I MEAN, IT'S PARTLY BUILT ON I MEAN, WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT WE'RE HERE TO TRY TO MAKE IT LEGAL.

SO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS ITEM BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

WE APPROVE.

AGENDA ITEM 24P-004 AND ALSO KNOWN AS STAFF REPORT 24P-001.

AS WRITTEN.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION, AND A SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE 24P-004.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.

THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THEN WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[8. Discussion Items]

IF THERE HAD BEEN A REQUEST TO GO OVER THE COMMISSION CASE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

SO THIS IS A POWERPOINT THAT I GAVE TO THE COMMISSION PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, A WHILE AGO.

SO WE CAN QUICKLY GO OVER THIS.

SO IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE CONSIST OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, DIVISIONS PLANNING.

THAT'S WHO WE ARE.

COASTAL RESOURCES, THAT'S KYLE AND HUNTER.

THE BUILDING DIVISION THAT'S RUN BY JOE TOLAND AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHO IS MICHELLE HAY, AND THEN WE ALSO ARE ON A DEVELOPMENT TEAM WITH MUNICIPAL SERVICES, WHICH IS THE TECHNICAL NAME FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND THE FIRE MARSHAL.

NOW THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

WE ADMINISTER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE THE CITY'S ZONING REGULATIONS.

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WE ARE THE STAFF TO YOU ALL AND ALSO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR, ADMINISTERING SOME SECTIONS OF CITY CODE, MOSTLY HAVING TO DO WITH LICENSE TO USE, WHICH IS THE PLACEMENT OF ITEMS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY CONCESSIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS PERMITS, WHICH IS A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS.

COASTAL RESOURCES. THEY ADMINISTER THE BEACH ACCESS AND DUNE PROTECTION REGULATIONS, WHICH IS CHAPTER 29 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

YOU SEE THEM VERY OFTEN WITH THEIR, THEIR REQUESTS.

BUILDING DIVISION. THEY ADMINISTER THE BUILDING CODES, FEMA REGULATIONS, FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.

THEY MANAGE THE PERMITTING PROCESS, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

THEY DO INSPECTIONS AND THEY REGISTER CONTRACTORS.

MUNICIPAL SERVICES.

THEY ARE [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEERING DIVISION.

THAT'S WHO WE WORK WITH MOST CLOSELY.

IT'S ROB WINIECKE AND HIS TEAM.

THEY REVIEW BUILDING PERMITS.

THEY ISSUED TEMPORARY LICENSE TO USE.

THEY REVIEW AND APPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS.

THEY ACCEPT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEY ADMINISTER DRAINAGE.

FIRE MARSHAL.

HE IS CHRIS HARRISON.

HE ADMINISTERS THE FIRE CODE.

HE REVIEWS COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PERMITS AND PERFORMS INSPECTIONS AND THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MICHELLE DOES A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS SHE ACTS AS IS AN OMBUDSMAN FOR LARGE DEVELOPMENT.

SO SHE'S A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT, FOR DEVELOPERS AND, CITY DEPARTMENTS.

THE FIRST STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS TYPICALLY A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING THAT GIVES DEVELOPERS THE CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THE DEVELOPER PRESENTS THEIR PROJECT ONCE AND GETS FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

IT'S ENCOURAGED FOR ALL NEW COMMERCIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND ALL NEW SUBDIVISIONS, AND WE ALSO WILL DO IT OCCASIONALLY FOR SIGNIFICANT RENOVATIONS. THEY'RE HELD EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY AND IT'S MANAGED BY KARINA.

IN '22, WE HELD 61 MEETINGS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MEETINGS ARE INTERESTING AND FUN, AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

WE HAVE SOME TOMORROW.

OKAY. THIS IS A GEOGRAPHIC, DISTRIBUTION BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

WE SEE A LOT IN DISTRICT SIX, WHICH IS THE WEST END, AND THOSE ARE MOSTLY NEW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, AND SO THEY COME TO YOU, SOMETIMES AS PUDS.

SOMETIMES IT'S PRELIMINARY PLOTS, BUT THAT IS A LOT OF WHAT WE SEE IN PRE-DEVELOPMENTS.

OKAY. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND IT REALLY THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS STARTS WITH DO YOU NEED A SPECIAL APPROVAL.

IS THERE SOMETHING DO YOU NEED A PUD.

DO YOU NEED AN APPROVAL THAT REQUIRES REVIEW BY A BOARD.

SO IF THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, THEN WE'LL GO OVER THOSE, AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.

THEN YOU JUST GO TO A BUILDING PERMIT.

SO THERE ARE LOTS OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION NEVER SEES.

THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS, AND THEN THEY ARE CONSTRUCTED AND INSPECTED, AND THEN THE CITY AT THE END ISSUES A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AND THAT'S OUR OKAY, THAT ALL OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND BUILDING CODES AND ZONING CODES HAVE BEEN MET.

HERE'S THE BEACHFRONT REVIEW PROCESS THAT CAN TAKE LOTS OF DIFFERENT PATHS, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ROLE.

THERE IS TYPICALLY WITHIN 75FT OF THE NORTH TOE OF THE TO THE DUNE.

THAT'S MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE.

OCCASIONALLY YOU WILL SEE, PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR DUNE MITIGATION.

IF SOMEBODY IS DISTURBING DUNES AND HAS TO DO SOME REPLANTING, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME HERE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE LICENSE TO USE PROCESS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT IS SOMETIMES ADMINISTRATIVE AND SOMETIMES NOT.

SO STAFF CAN REVIEW CERTAIN TYPES OF LTUS, AND THAT'S SPELLED OUT FOR US IN CITY CODE.

IT'S VERY STRICT.

EITHER YOU MEET THOSE STANDARDS OR YOU DON'T.

SO IF IT'S NOT AN ITEM THAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, IT COMES HERE, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN STAFF REVIEWS, AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE COMMISSION WAS INTERESTED IN WHEN IT WAS ASKED TO PUT FOR THIS TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.

SO WHEN WE WERE DOING REVIEWS, PART OF OUR REVIEW PROCESS, WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON A CASE THAT'S COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION IS WE SEND OUT THE CASE INFORMATION TO ALL OF THESE ENTITIES.

SO WITHIN THE CITY, WE SEND IT TO THE AIRPORT BUILDING FIRE CHIEF, FIRE MARSHAL, POLICE CHIEF, AND THEN MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS, ENGINEERING AND UTILITIES. SO ALL THOSE FOLKS ARE INTERNAL REVIEWERS OF, CASES, AND THEN WE ALSO SEND TO THE PRIVATE UTILITIES, WHICH IS AT&T, CENTERPOINT, COMCAST AND TEXAS GAS SERVICE.

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NOW WE LIST EACH ONE OF THE REVIEWERS, AND WHAT IF THEY HAD AN OBJECTION IF THEY HAD A COMMENT? JUST SO THAT YOU ALL AND THE PUBLIC KNOW EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT THESE, SO INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING CITY DEPARTMENTS, NOW WE LIST IT.

SO, THE READER OF A STAFF REPORT WILL KNOW THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS LOOKED AT IT AND HAS NO OBJECTION.

FOR INSTANCE. CATHERINE.

SO, IN RELATION TO DRAINAGE, WHICH, WHICH DEPARTMENT OR WHO WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT? I KNOW COASTAL IS GLO, CORRECT? YEAH. COASTAL IS GLO.

OH, AND YOU KNOW, COASTAL IS NOT IN THIS LIST, BUT WE HAVE RECENTLY ADDED THEM TO THE REVIEW.

SO THEY ARE IN THE CITY DEPARTMENT'S, REVIEW LIST AS WELL.

DRAINAGE IS MUNICIPAL SERVICES ENGINEERING.

OKAY. IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT FROM PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING THAT COULD BE ABOUT DRAINAGE.

OKAY. OKAY. I THINK A CONCERN THAT WAS VOICED IN OUR LAST MEETING WAS THAT WHILE IT'S SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW TO A DEPARTMENT, IF THE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T RESPOND, THEN WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY JUST HAVEN'T RESPONDED OR AND NOT REVIEWED IT, OR IF THEY HAVE REVIEWED IT AND DIDN'T HAVE COMMENTS.

SO WHEN WE SEND IT OUT, WE SEND IT WITH A DUE DATE AND WITH THE NOTE THAT IF YOU DON'T RESPOND, YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY HAVE A NO OBJECTION WE GET FROM THE CORE REVIEW TEAM.

ALMOST ALWAYS RESPONSES.

SO WE ALMOST ALWAYS GET AFFIRMATIVE RESPONSES FROM THE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE MOST INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENT.

PRIVATE UTILITIES, NOT SO MUCH TEXAS GAS SERVICE EVERY SINGLE TIME, BUT BUT THEY ARE PUT ON NOTICE THAT IF IF THEY DON'T GET IF IT'S NOT A RESPONSE THEN THAT'S A NO OBJECTION.

MA'AM. YEAH, AND TO BUILD ON WHAT SHE'S STATED.

I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN IT WAS NOT AT ALL UNUSUAL TO SEE THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HERE PUBLIC WORKS ON CASES, AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THEY CAME HERE, BUT I CAN TELL I REMEMBER HAVING CASES WHERE THEY WERE HERE, AND, SO WHEN WE HAVE A CASE AND IT WE JUST HAVE A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOW DO WE I MEAN, WE'RE DOING IT WITH WE HAVE A CASE THAT'S BEEN DEFERRED.

SO THAT ONE'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT WE DEFERRED IT BECAUSE WE'D HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, AND THIS IS WHERE I'D LIKE, HEY, HOW BIG A DEAL IS IT TO GET THOSE GUYS TO COME TO THE MEETING JUST TO ASK THEM A QUESTION OR TWO? IS THAT A PROBLEM? IT'S NO PROBLEM AT ALL, AND, YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS INDICATED HIS WILLINGNESS TO COME TO ANY MEETING THAT HE IS REQUESTED TO.

YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP THEIR TIME IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE QUESTIONS AND UNDERSTOOD AND UNDERSTOOD.

SO IF IT'S IF THE ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD HAS A QUESTION THAT THEY THINK WILL COME UP AT THE MEETING, THEN JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN INVITE THEM TO ATTEND.

SO IF WE HAVE SOMETHING ON A CASE THAT YOU SEE AND YOU THINK IT WOULD WARRANT HAVING THOSE GUYS THERE, WELL WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO HANDLE IT WOULD BE TO LET STAFF KNOW OR LET SOMEBODY KNOW.

SO WE CAN GET THOSE GUYS HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, ON COUNCIL, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD, HEY, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, THE AGENDA GOES OUT, YOU KNOW, A WEEK BEFORE OR WHENEVER OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA GOES OUT, IF REVIEW THOSE CASES AND CALL THEM DIRECTLY CALL THE ENGINEER.

EMAIL THE ENGINEER.

IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL, EMAIL THE FIRE MARSHAL.

YOU CAN GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE THIS MEETING, SO DON'T EVER HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON ANY OF THAT STUFF, AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU LOOP US IN ON THAT.

YES. SO YEAH. COPY THEM.

YES, THOSE GUYS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY ACCESSIBLE.

I JUST WOULD SAY IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AND YOU'RE ASKING THOSE GUYS QUESTIONS.

IF IT WARRANTS HAVING THEM HERE, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM.

INSTEAD OF ME SAYING, HEY, I TALKED TO THE FIRE MARSHAL AND HE SAID, THIS IS TO HAVE THEM PRESENT.

SO YOU'VE ANSWERED YOU'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

WELL, YOU KNOW, MY MEMORY'S NOT THAT GOOD, [INAUDIBLE] I DID SAY THAT, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I THINK YOU ARE. OKAY.

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WELL, LET ME CORRECT THAT, AND I WOULD SAY EMAIL CATHERINE AND SHE CAN REACH OUT TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

YEAH, AND THAT'S THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION.

THEN WE CAN RELAY THE INFORMATION TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SO THAT NOT ONE COMMISSIONER HAS THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND THE OTHERS DON'T, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT ALSO HAPPENS IS WE GET INTO OUR MEETINGS AND WE HAVE THE QUESTIONS.

SO I DO THINK THAT IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET THOSE ANSWERS, ESPECIALLY ON WHERE WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON ITEMS. SO THEY ARE SOMEWHAT VETTED.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THESE PUDS, LARGE DEVELOPMENTS AND STUFF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN HAVE EASE OF ACCESS AND.

YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT SOME OF THESE HIGH-DENSITY THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP ON THE ROAD, WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE HAVE SOME ANSWERS THERE.

[INAUDIBLE] OR IF EVEN THEY'RE ON A CALL.

YEAH. YEAH.

YES. THAT'LL WORK.

I MEAN, BUT THOSE QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THE MEETING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE THOSE THOSE DEPARTMENTS ON CALL. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEST TO BE PREPARED, GO OVER THE AGENDA WELL AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR QUESTIONS ARE.

TRY TO GET AN ANSWER BEFORE THE MEETING.

YOU KNOW AND THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IS I MEAN IT'S THE PROCESS.

WE GET OUR AGENDA USUALLY ON A WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S STUFF THAT'S LIKE, HEY, HERE IT IS, AND THE QUESTIONS COME UP DURING OUR MEETINGS, AND THAT'S WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS WHERE THEY COME UP DURING THE MEETINGS AND WE'RE NEEDING TO MAKE A DECISION, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

SO I WOULD JUST.

I'LL JUST SAY OUR PROTOCOL WOULD BE.

PLEASE CONTACT CATHERINE, AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE GUYS ON A PHONE CALL IS FINE.

THEY DON'T NEED TO BE HERE IN PERSON, BUT THAT WOULD I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US OUT TREMENDOUSLY.

WHEN WE HAVE, AND IT'S NOT EVERY CASE, OBVIOUSLY.

SO. DEFERRAL LIKE WE DID WITH THE LAST MEETING, SO WE CAN GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT COME UP DURING THE MEETINGS.

ALSO AN OPTION THAT WAS A GOOD OPTION.

RIGHT. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR.

OH ARE YOU STILL GOING? I THINK THIS IS THE BULK OF WHAT YOU ALL WANTED TO SEE, AND SO I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY STOP THERE IF THE COMMISSION FEELS SATISFIED.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A DISCUSSION ITEM TO OUR NEXT AGENDA, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THIS AND LOOKING AT CONDOS IN COMMERCIAL SPACE AND COMMERCIAL ZONE DISTRICTS.

THE DEAL OF HEIGHT HAS COME UP AND WE ARE PROTECTED ON HEIGHT, BUT WHERE WE GET INTO SOME OF THE PARAMETERS OF BUILDING PROFILES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF, WHERE WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL ZONE, BECAUSE CONDOS ARE A PERMITTED USE IN, IN COMMERCIAL ZONES.

SO THE HEIGHT IS KIND OF TOUCHED ON, BUT THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF STAFF COULD GIVE US SOME INFORMATION THAT WOULD KIND OF SHOW US, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE LIMITED USES ARE, AND THEN IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT HAPPENS IN HDZ SO YOU THINK YOU GUYS COULD IT, WOULD EVERYBODY BE OKAY HAVING THAT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM? DO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING FOR? YEAH, AS LONG AS CATHERINE DOES.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, ONE LAST ITEM.

SOMEBODY'S HAVING A BIRTHDAY TODAY? I THINK SOMEBODY'S HAVING A BIRTHDAY.

[CHUCKLING] IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, DONNA? I'M GOING TO SING! [CHUCKLING] IS TODAY YOUR BIRTHDAY?

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR DONNA.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, AND MANY MORE.

YES, AND MANY MORE.

SO COME BACK NEXT MARCH 5TH FOR KARAOKE HOUR.

[CHUCKLING] ALL RIGHT, IF THAT'S IT, WE'LL BE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANKS, GUYS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.