Oct 17, 2023 Planning Commission

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WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR A COUPLE FOLKS, BUT I GUESS WE CAN GET

[1. Call Meeting To Order]

SO, WE'LL CALL THE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

WE'VE TAKEN ATTENDANCE BY SIGNING IN.

ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST?

[3. Conflict Of Interest]

OH, WE'RE GOING TO ELECT THE CHAIRPERSON AND THE VICE CHAIR.

[4. Election Of Chairperson And Vice-Chairperson]

WE DON'T HAVE THE ATTORNEY HERE.

NO ATTORNEY. SHE'LL BE BACK.

OKAY. THAT'S WHY YOU GAVE US SOMETHING LAST TIME.

WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.

IS THAT OKAY? SO IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM.

SO IF THERE'S AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THIS IS YOUR YOUR POINT IN TIME WHERE YOU COULD COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY. SEEING NONE WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ELECTION.

SO WHY DON'T YOU. WHY DON'T YOU HELP ME OUT WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT CATHERINE? OKAY. JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, THIS IS THE PROCESS FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR.

SO THE CHAIR OPENS NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR.

ANY MEMBER CAN BRING FORWARD A NOMINATION.

THE MEMBER WHO'S NOMINATED CAN DECLINE THE NOMINATION IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO.

A NOMINATION DOES NOT NEED A SECOND AFTER EACH NOMINATION.

THE CHAIR ASKS IF MEMBERS HAVE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS.

A MEMBER CAN NOMINATE MORE THAN ONE PERSON.

NOT UNTIL EVERYBODY HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE NOMINATIONS.

WHEN THERE ARE NO MORE NOMINATIONS, THE CHAIR MAY CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT AND THEN CALL FOR AN ELECTION, A MOTION FOR ELECTION AND A SECOND, AND CONDUCT THE VOICE VOTE IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CANDIDATES ARE NOMINATED.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION, THEN A VOTE.

YES. YEAH. NOMINATIONS.

CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS. CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.

MOTION. MOTION.

SECOND. IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE NOMINEE, WE DO THE VOTE IN THE ORDER THEY WERE NOMINATED.

UNDERSTOOD? OKAY.

IN THE SAME PROCESS FOR VICE CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR.

ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.

I MAKE A NOMINATION SINCE RUSTY IS KIND OF GETTING GOOD AT IT.

WE KEEP HIM AS OUR CHAIR.

I SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE.

WE'LL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS AND WE'LL CALL FOR A MOTION FOR THE ELECTION OF CHAIR.

I MOVE THAT WE MAKE THE MAKE THE MOVE TO THE ELECTION.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

SO, THEN WE'LL THEN.

WAS THAT YOU VOTED FOR YOURSELF? NO, THIS IS THE MOTION.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. BUT YEAH, I WOULD VOTE FOR MYSELF, STAN.

ALL RIGHT. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

SO, NOW WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RUSTY WALLA AS CHAIR? THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ANONYMOUS.

ANONYMOUS. ANONYMOUS.

UNANIMOUS. ANONYMOUS.

ALL RIGHT. NOTORIOUS.

MORE LIKE IT. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.

SO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE STEVEN PINA AS VICE CHAIR.

SECOND. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MOTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.

OKAY. BEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE THE ELECTION FOR VICE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND AND WITH A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL IN.

SO, NOW WE'LL HAVE THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF STEVEN PINA.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

SO NOW STEVEN PINA IS THE VICE CHAIR.

ARE WE GOOD? WE'RE GOOD.

CONGRATULATIONS. AWESOME. WELL THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

DON'T FORGET THAT. YOU KNOW THAT PAY RAISE Y'ALL WERE TELLING ME ABOUT ANOTHER ZERO.

THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[6.A.1. 23BF-029 (18911 West De Vaca Ln) Notice Of Mitigation For Disturbance Of Dunes And Vegetation. Property Is Legally Described As Abstract 121 Hall & Jones Survey, Lot 11, Block 1, Indian Beach Section 2, A Subdivision In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Amy Barrington, Sheldon Homes Property Owner: David & Kasia McCormick]

20 3BF-029.

ALL RIGHTY. GOOD AFTERNOON, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

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THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS ABSTRACT 1 TO 1 HALL AND JONES SURVEY, LOT 11, BLOCK ONE INDIAN BEACH SECTION TO A SUBDIVISION LOCATED IN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS.

PUBLIC NOTICES OF TODAY'S MEETING WAS SENT TO TWO ADJACENT PROPERTY LANDOWNERS.

THE PUBLIC NOTICE WAS SENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE PROPOSED ACTIVITY.

NO COMMENTS IN RESPONSE WERE RECEIVED.

WE HAVE STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

FIRST, WE HAVE THE FIRM AND BG MAPS SHOWING THE PROPERTY LOCATIONS AND ITS RELATIVE POSITION TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

NEXT ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE PROPERTY SURVEY.

ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE WE HAVE THE PROPOSED PROJECT DRAWING, AS WELL AS SUMMARIZED.

SCOPE OF WORK.

NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, WE HAVE A PROPOSED PROJECT IMPOSED ON THE BEACH SURVEY.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROJECT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE VEGETATION ON THE SOUTH OF THE DUNE, AND ALSO SOME OF THE MITIGATION AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF FAINT.

BUT ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE OF THE OF THE DUNE WALKOVER EXTENSION.

FINALLY, WE HAVE FIVE PHOTOS AT THE SITE.

THIS IS LOOKING NORTH TOWARD THE EXISTING WALKOVER.

THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE EXISTING WALKOVER.

THIS IS LOOKING EAST TOWARD THE PROPOSED HEAD OF THE NEW WALKOVER.

THIS IS LOOKING WEST OF THE HEAD OF THE WALKOVER.

AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE TOWARD THE TERMINUS OF THE PROPOSED DUNE WALKOVER.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF REPORT.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, MA'AM. I WAS REVIEWING THE GLOW LETTER ON THIS AND IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE.

IS THE APPLICANT AWARE OF ALL THIS FOR THE VEGETATION AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO DO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE GLOW? YEAH, THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A MITIGATION PLAN.

SO IT WILL BE PART OF OUR ACTION LETTER.

AND WE WILL BE GOING OUT THERE AND MONITORING IT AND ENSURING THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

AND THIS IS THEY APPROACHED US BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE DUNE IS EXTENDED SEAWARD.

SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY APPROACHED US ABOUT EXTENDING THIS OUT TO HELP PROTECT THE DUNES THAT ARE FORMING IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING TERMINUS OF THE WALKOVER. OCCURRING IF THE OCCURRENCE OF ADDITIONAL EXPANSION OF THE BEACH AND THE.

AND THE VEGETATION LINE AND THE NORTH TOE OF DUNE.

THEN THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. OUR PLAN SAYS WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, ADJUSTMENTS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

SO IF WE'RE NOT OUT THERE AND WE DON'T MAKE A REQUEST IN A TIMELY MANNER, BUT ALL DUNE WALKOVERS, WE DO HAVE THAT THAT LANGUAGE IN OUR LETTER SAYING IF THERE IS ANY MIGRATION OF THE DUNES, BOTH SEAWARD OR LANDWARD, WE CAN REQUEST THAT IT BE MOVED.

LIKE I SAID, IT SAYS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

OKAY. AND THE APPLICANTS ARE AWARE OF THAT.

YES, SIR. THANKS. SO, KYLE, ARE THEY MITIGATING THIS BECAUSE THEIR OLD WALKOVER DIDN'T CLEAR THE DUNE? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THEY'RE WHEN THEY BUILT IT.

I THINK THE PHOTOS ARE WERE WERE TAKEN BACK BEFORE THE SUMMER.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE VEGETATION OUT THERE.

BUT THE MITIGATION WILL BE FOR THE NEW POST AND.

0H, OKAY.

THAT'S WHEN MOST OF THE DUNE WALKOVERS THE MITIGATION IS REQUIRED IS ANYWHERE WHERE YOU PUT THE POST AND YOU DO THE DISTURB.

I REMEMBER THIS NOW.

YEAH. THE DISPLACEMENT. YEAH.

FOR THE FOR THE POST.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

ALL RIGHT. IF WE'LL MOVE ON AND WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 23 BF 029.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL BRING THE ITEM BACK TO COMMISSION FOR ACTION.

NO ACTION NEEDED. PUBLIC HEARING ONLY.

OH, PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. OKAY, WELL, I'LL HAVE TO VOTE.

THAT WAS EASY. ALL RIGHT.

NEW BUSINESS, 23P-073.

[7.A.23P-073 (Vacant Tracts Located East And West Of Pabst Road, North Of The Bermuda Beach Subdivision, West Of 11 Mile Road, And South Of San Luis Pass Road/FM 3005) Request For A Change Of Zoning From Residential, Single-Family, Height And Density Development, Zone Six (R-1-HDDZ-6); Residential, Townhouse, Height And Density Development, Zone Six (R-2-HDDZ-6); Commercial, Height And Density Development, Zone Six (C-HDDZ-6); And Resort/Recreation, Height And Density Development, Zone Six (RES/REC-HDDZ-6) Zoning Districts To Traditional Neighborhood (TN). Properties Are Legally Described As: The Preserve At West Beach, Section 8 (2010), Abstract 121, Acres 39.6264; The Preserve At West Beach, Section 8 (2010), Abstract 121, Block 4, Lot 1, Acres 3.8736; The Preserve At West Beach, Section 9 (2010), Abstract 121, Acres 21.5022; and Abstract 121, Hall & Jones Survey, Portion of Lot 457 (457-1, Trimble & Lindsey, Section 2 AKA Portion of Blocks 74, 77, & 84, Nottingham Subdivision; in the City and County of Galveston Texas.]

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IT'S A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE.

PUT MY GLASSES ON. COMMERCIAL AND RESORT RECREATION, ALL WITHIN THE HEIGHTENED DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ZONE.

TWO TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC NOTICES SENT WERE 117 14 RETURNED, ONE IN FAVOR AND 13 IN OPPOSITION.

NO OBJECTION FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS OR PRIVATE UTILITIES.

SUMMARY. IN ORDER TO CREATE A CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND ZONING BOUNDARY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM THE BASE ZONING DISTRICTS OF RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY R-1 RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE R-2 COMMERCIAL C AND RESORT RECREATION RES REC TO TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING REMOVAL OF THE HEIGHTENED DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ZONE, WHICH IS KNOWN AS HDDC.

THE PURPOSE OF THE TN ZONING DISTRICT IS TO PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT THAT REFLECTS THE LAYOUT AND PLANNING PRINCIPLES OF TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL SECTIONS OF THE CITY. OTHER EXAMPLES OF TN DEVELOPMENTS IN GALVESTON INCLUDE BEACH TOWN, VILLA, SWEETWATER COVE, AND BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.

THE CURRENT ZONING. THE CURRENT ZONING CONFIGURATION ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES, WAS PUT IN PLACE DURING THE 2015 CITYWIDE REZONING EFFORT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

IT WAS INTENDED TO REFLECT THE LAYOUT OF THE MARQUETTE DEVELOPMENT.

MARQUETTE WAS A LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT APPROVED IN THE EARLY 2010S BUT WAS NEVER CONSTRUCTED.

THE MARQUETTE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDED THE SUBJECT TRACTS AND SEVERAL OTHERS IN THE VICINITY.

COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE AND ZONING.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A ZONING CHANGE TO ELIMINATE THE CURRENT MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS IN FAVOR OF ONE DISTRICT, TO ENABLE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW SUBDIVISION.

ROSEATE BEACH.

ROSEATE BEACH IS PROPOSED TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 170 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND AMENITIES, INCLUDING A COMMUNITY POOL AND CLUBHOUSE AND PROTECTED NATURAL AREAS.

THE SPECIFICS FOR THE DISTRICT ARE LISTED FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF REPORT, ALONG WITH THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.

CONFORMANCE. THE CURRENT REQUEST IS FOR THE CHANGE OF ZONING ONLY, WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS INCLUDED THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION LAYOUT FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

THE REVIEW OF THE SUBDIVISION WILL TAKE PLACE UNDER A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

STAFF ANTICIPATES THAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

IT WAS NOTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AS NOVEMBER 7TH, BUT IT'S SINCE CHANGED TO DECEMBER 5TH, SO IT'LL BE ON THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.

STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CHANGE OF ZONING APPROVAL CRITERIA, AS PRESCRIBED IN SECTION 13.6 01C OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND WITH THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA IN SECTION 10.402.

THE CHANGE OF ZONING WILL PROVIDE A CONSISTENT ZONING DISTRICT UNDER WHICH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CAN BE REVIEWED.

REGULATION OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVER MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS IS COMPLICATED FOR STAFF AND FOR DEVELOPERS.

THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED THE DESIRE TO MEET THE INTENT AND OBJECTIVES OF THE ZONING DISTRICT, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE HDC IS INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND NOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.

STAFF FINDS THAT THE REMOVAL OF THE OVERLAY IS APPROPRIATE.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

CITY COUNCIL HAS FINAL DECISION MAKING ON CHANGES OF ZONING AND IT WILL BE.

THIS REQUEST WILL BE HEARD AT THE NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS.

THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE OUTLINED IN BLUE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE ZONING MAP SHOWS THE MYRIAD ZONING DISTRICTS THAT THE PROPERTY PROPERTIES CURRENTLY HAVE.

AND THEN JUST A FEW SLIDES SHOWING THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION LAYOUT.

AGAIN, WE'LL BE REVIEWING THAT UNDER A CASE IN THE FUTURE A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

AND ALSO THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED SOME RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CATHERINE.

QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WHAT'S THE SQUARE WITHIN A SQUARE.

LIKE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE YEAH, THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES ARE A LITTLE BIT ODD.

SO WHERE WERE YOU? WERE YOU ASKING THE GREEN SQUARE WITHIN THE OTHER GREEN SQUARE.

THE. THIS GREEN ADJACENT? YEAH. THE ADJACENT.

YES. THAT'S IT.

YES. IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL PARCEL THAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN ANOTHER PARCEL.

OKAY. SO, IT'S TWO PARCELS TOGETHER.

AND WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THE EXTENT OF THE REQUEST? EVERYTHING THAT'S OUTLINED IN BLUE.

YES. EVERYTHING THAT'S OUTLINED IN BLUE.

OKAY OKAY.

SO THE THE SQUARE AND THE SQUARE.

HOW IS THAT ZONED.

THE SQUARE AND THE SQUARE IS ZONED AS REC.

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GREEN IS REC, RED IS COMMERCIAL, BEIGE IS R1 AND YELLOW IS R2.

OKAY, JUST TO REALLY MAKE THINGS CONFUSING, MY ONE AND ONLY FLAW IS I'M COLORBLIND.

OH, I'M SORRY, RUSTY.

SO, I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS GOING.

IT ALL LOOKS THE SAME.

SO THE SMALL SQUARE TO THE TO THE WEST.

OOPS. OOPS. THAT MOUSE IS VERY SENSITIVE.

IT'S EASY. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S LIKE YELLOW.

YES, YES.

OKAY. WHAT IS HOW IS THAT ZONED? YELLOW IS R-2, WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT FOR TOWNHOUSES.

OKAY. SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IS ZONED RESURRECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? A GOOD PORTION ON THE WEST END.

YEAH, THE GOOD PORTION OF IT IS REZ REC.

AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF COMMERCIAL.

THERE'S COMMERCIAL? YEAH. COMMERCIAL IS YEAH.

THE WEIRD LOOKING.

THIS IS COMMERCIAL. THIS IS COMMERCIAL RIGHT HERE.

COMMERCIAL. OKAY.

COMMERCIAL. OKAY.

YEAH, I GOT YOU. AND THIS IS COMMERCIAL.

COMMERCIAL. ALL RIGHT.

SORRY, GUYS. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE.

NO. THAT'S OKAY. BE MORE COGNIZANT.

NO. IT'S FINE. IT'S USUALLY I CAN FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 1 OR 2, BUT.

SO THEN THE OTHER, THE STUFF THAT'S KIND OF LIKE RIGHT BEHIND THE SUBDIVISION THERE, THAT'S ALL, ARE ONE.

YES. YEAH.

THE LIGHTEST COLOR IS THE BEIGE, WHICH IS OUR ONE.

OKAY. SO, WE ALREADY HAVE BECAUSE I'M ASKING SOME OF THIS BECAUSE WE DID.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DO RECEIVE YOUR COMMENTS.

WE STAFF PROVIDES THOSE TO US.

WE DO READ THEM.

THEY ARE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD.

SO THOSE OF YOU THAT TOOK TIME TO REPLY JUST KNOW THAT WE DO GET THOSE.

WE DO LOOK AT THEM.

AND SO WHAT I ASKED WAS SOME OF THIS STUFF SAID, HEY.

I DON'T WANT COMMERCIAL BEHIND MY HOUSE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAD COMMERCIAL.

IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND? SO. RIGHT. SO, THE SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE, EITHER THE COMMERCIAL ZONE OR THE REC ZONE AND THEN THE RESURRECT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT.

AND THEN ALSO THAT IN THOSE ZONES.

THEY CAN DO A LOT OF STUFF.

THEY CAN. SO, THIS WOULD BE YOU COULD CONSIDER THIS ZONING TO BE POSSIBLY A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.

TN TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DOES PERMIT SOME COMMERCIAL USES.

SO, THOSE WERE LISTED FOR YOU IN YES, THE LAND USE COMPARISON ON EXHIBIT C.

AND SO, IT DOES WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT TN RIGHT DOES HAVE SOME COMMERCIALS.

TN COULD BECOME MORE COMMERCIAL IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

OKAY, OKAY.

WHAT WOULD THERE BE.

WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF GOING TO TN VERSUS R-2 OR ALL RESURRECT TN ALLOWS FOR SOME REDUCTIONS IN ESPECIALLY STREET SIZES, STREET WIDTHS THAN JUST A REGULAR R-1 SUBDIVISION.

OKAY, ANY REDUCTION IN LOT SIZES? YES. SMALLER LOTS AND SMALLER STREET SIZES I SEE.

THANK YOU. AND THEN TAKING AWAY THE HDDC, WOULD THAT THEN GO UP HIGHER OR HDC DOESN'T APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL.

THE BULK OF WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

SO, IT AND LET ME THINK FOR A SECOND.

I THINK HDDC WOULD ALLOW FOR TALLER BUILDINGS, TALLER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

SO, IT ACTUALLY YOU HAVE MORE RESTRICTED.

DID HEIGHTS UNDER TEN.

BUT THERE ARE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS IN TOWN WITHOUT THE HDZ OVERLAY. OKAY.

VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHTY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE BUILDING HEIGHT MAXIMUM IN THE CURRENT R-1 IS 50FT.

WHERE IF IT WITH THE REQUEST WITH THE TN THE BUILDING HEIGHT MAXIMUM IS 60FT.

IS THAT CORRECT? LET ME GET TO THAT IN THE GC.

SO YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THE BUILDING HEIGHT FOR R-1 IS 50, BUILDING HEIGHT IS IN TN IS 60.

FOR MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, IT'S 100.

DID WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING A PUTT IN LIEU OF A ZONING CHANGE?

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THIS IS THEIR REQUEST? YES. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? I DO HAVE YES.

ONE MORE. SO, THE BERMUDA BEACH DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NEXT TO IT THERE.

THAT'S OUR ONE.

RIGHT. THAT'S NOT. AND WHAT DID YOU SAY WAS SIMILAR IN TEN.

BEACHSIDE. YEP.

SO THE EXISTING TEN DEVELOPMENTS IN GALVESTON ARE BEACH TOWN VILLA SWEETWATER COVE AND BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.

OKAY. DO DOES BEACH TOWN STILL IS BEACH TOWN STILL UNDER THE HDC OR IS THAT ALSO.

BEACH TOWN IS NOT. BEACH TOWN IS ON THE FAR EAST END AND ISN'T.

OKAY. YEAH. NOT ON THIS SIDE OF THE SEAWALL.

OKAY. OKAY, OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? HI, BRUCE REINHART WITH KAHALA SERVICES, AND WE ARE THE APPLICANT AND WE WILL BE WORKING AS THE DEVELOPER FOR THE OWNER.

OH, SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I'VE GOT A COUPLE FOR YOU, BRUCE.

SURE. SO, I WOULD SAY I LOOK AT THIS AND IF I'M LIVING IN BERMUDA BEACH.

GRANTED, THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL ZONING THERE, KIND OF ON BOTH SIDES OF PAPS ROAD AT THE ENTRANCE.

BUT YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF RESERVES IN HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO IN, THEY COULD, IN THEORY, HAVE SOME SORT OF IMPACT IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS.

RIGHT. IF SOME OF THAT WAS MADE COMMERCIAL, SO WOULD YOU MIND GOING THROUGH SOME OF THESE RESERVES? AND LOOK, I KNOW THIS IS ALL KIND OF PRELIMINARY.

THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY, I MEAN THAT.

SO, BECAUSE I LOOK AT THIS AND THE FIRST THING I'M LOOKING AT AND GOING, OKAY, ARE THESE RESERVES, COMMERCIAL RESERVES.

ARE THESE OPEN SPACE RESERVES.

ARE THEY RESERVES FOR DRAINAGE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO THE WEST WEST EAST OF PABST ROAD.

SO LET'S JUST START. LET'S START AT THE WEST AND WE'LL GO EAST.

OKAY. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A BIG ONE.

RESERVE A THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S RUNNING ALONG THE FRONT OF THE HIGHWAY.

IS THAT CORRECT. LOOKS LIKE IT SAYS RESERVE A.

AND LOOK I KNOW THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEAL.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL.

OH, THAT RESERVE A IS RIGHT NOW DESIGNATED AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS ON A WETLAND RESERVE.

PRESERVE. OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THAT BIG ONE IS THERE.

THESE NOTES I CAN'T READ.

AND SO KEEP IN MIND, BRUCE, I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOUR NEIGHBORS WANT TO KNOW.

YES. WELL, THAT BIG RESERVE A IS GOING TO BE FOR THE AMENITIES AND A WETLAND RESERVE, THE AMENITIES AND A WETLAND RESERVE. OKAY, SO YOU'D HAVE LIKE A CLUBHOUSE AND IT LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD SOME PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE RENDERING.

OKAY, I SAW THAT.

YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT'S THERE.

AND THEN YOU GO FURTHER TO THE, TO THE EAST.

AND I CAN'T READ THESE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER YOU ON THAT ONE.

YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RESERVE S OR B.

SO THIS THIS AGAIN THIS KIND OF FRONTS 3005.

IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE WEST OF PABST ROAD.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A RESERVE.

I THAT PROBABLY IS A COMMERCIAL RESERVE IF I HAD TO GUESS.

OKAY. I SEE THAT THE B AND YEAH THIS IS PRELIMINARY THAT WE WORKED OUT WITH THE LAND PLANNERS.

WE ARE ALSO IN THE WE HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND BERMUDA BEACH AND OFFERED THEM A TRACK OF LAND SO THAT THEY COULD CORRECT THEIR BEACH ON BEACH PARKING. THAT'S NICE.

AND SO WE'RE WE'RE SO THIS WILL CHANGE SOME ONCE WE GET THAT.

SO ONE OF THOSE MAY BE AN ON BEACH PARKING SPOT FOR BERMUDA BEACH OKAY.

OFF BEACH PARKING. SORRY.

AND SO THAT SO WITH THESE OTHER RESERVES GOING TO THE EAST SIDE OF PABST ROAD, THOSE COULD BE I MEAN, IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL TODAY. SO, IT'S WHATEVER'S ALLOWED IN THE AND RIGHT.

SO OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND THE PURPOSE OF WHICH WAS IT MENTIONED THE PURPOSE OF A T AND D IS LESS CONCRETE MORE GREEN SPACE.

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WHEREAS IF YOU TAKE A REGULAR SUBDIVISION, YOU DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT.

IT'S ALL CONCRETE.

THAT'S TRUE. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THERE YOU'LL SEE GREEN SPACES RUNNING ALL THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION.

AND THAT'S THE TRADE OFF THAT THE T AND D WAS ORIGINALLY DONE.

AND YOU SEE IT IN A VILLA.

YOU SEE IT IN BEACH TOWN.

THERE'S MORE GREEN, LESS CONCRETE.

YEAH. AND AGAIN, MY COMMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORS WOULD BE IS A BIG PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED REZ REC.

SO, I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF IT ALLOWS JUST THAT JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

THAT'S ONE OF PROBABLY THE MOST LEAST RESTRICTIVE.

SO ZONING CHANGES ARE PERMANENT.

SO AND I'M YEAH, WHAT I'M LEARNING IS, IS FOLKS JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BESIDE THIS WOULD BE I WOULD CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT OF A DOWN ZONING AND MAKING IT MORE. YEAH.

AND I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU.

SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

ALL RIGHT. YES MA'AM.

THE AND I KNOW THESE ARE JUST PRELIMINARY, BUT I STILL WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION.

SO, THE LOTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE LOTS ON JOHN REYNOLDS, THEY ARE THESE HIGH DENSITY HIGH.

ARE THESE GOING TO BE INDIVIDUAL HOMES.

YES. YES.

INDIVIDUAL HOMES IN THAT AREA.

YES. IN THAT AREA THAT'S BEHIND BERMUDA BEACH IS ALREADY PLATTED.

WE'RE CHANGING IT DOWN, ZONING IT THERE TO THAT'S ALL PLATTED RESIDENTIAL BEHIND BERMUDA BEACH AT THIS TIME SO IT DOESN'T SHOW UP.

BUT WHY NOT LEAVE IT AT R-1 INSTEAD OF MOVE IT THE AREA BEHIND BERMUDA BEACH TO INSTEAD OF REQUESTING.

AND WE'RE TO CREATE MORE GREEN SPACE AND LESS CONCRETE BECAUSE OUR ONE REQUIRES A LARGER ROAD.

AND SO YOU LOSE GREEN SPACE.

AND IF YOU LOOK IN THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE PUT QUITE A BIT OF GREEN SPACE AROUND THERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS PLATTED RIGHT NOW, IT'S TWO ROWS OF HOUSES, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND NOTHING ELSE.

YEAH, I GUESS IT'S THAT THE LOT SIZE FROM 4000 TO 1500FT².

WE'RE NOT. NO, IT'S FROM 5000.

WHAT IS IT, 5000 AND 6000 TO 4000.

THEY'RE ALL ABOUT 4000.

YEAH, 4000 IS OUR MINIMUM SIZE IS 440 BY 100.

OKAY. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S A TEN WHICH THE MINIMUM IS 1500.

YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE 4000? YEAH. THERE WAS THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT CAME BEFORE YOU THAT HAD SOME 1500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, A FEW.

YEAH, YEAH. WEEK OR MONTH AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, SO.

ANYBODY ELSE? YES, SIR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS OR REQUIREMENTS FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THIS TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD? WE ARE LOOKING. YOU ALL ARE PUTTING.

YOU ALL ARE APPLYING? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A POSSIBLE PART OF IT BEING A RESTRICTION.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY AT THIS TIME INSTEAD OF IT BEING WIDE OPEN.

SO, BRUCE, I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION, AND IT'S SOMEWHAT ZONING RELATED.

HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DRAIN THIS PLACE? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO DRAIN TO THE NORTH.

AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? WELL, THERE'S THERE'S DRAINAGE IS THERE IS DRAINAGE ACROSS THAT TEXT GOT YEARS AGO.

THAT IS ACROSS THERE.

THERE'S DRAINAGE DITCHES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ISLAND.

I BUILT A BUT THERE IS DRAINAGE ACROSS THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DRAIN AND WORK WITH IT AND GO TO THE DRAINAGE DITCHES THAT ARE THERE, BUT IT WILL DRAIN.

I MEAN, IT'LL DRAIN THAT WAY.

I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, SO YOU'RE NOW, YOU'RE GETTING INTO TEXT DITCHES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU'D.

AND REALLY IT'S KIND OF AN UNRELATED TO THE ZONING QUESTION, BUT YEAH, YOU'VE ANSWERED THAT.

THANK YOU. AT ONE POINT HAD EASEMENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN.

YEP. THEY'RE STILL THERE ACROSS FROM BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.

I'VE GOT 2 OR 3 OF THEM THAT I TAKE CARE OF MYSELF.

RIGHT. AND I'M JUST.

YOU'LL HAVE ENOUGH OPEN.

SOME OF THOSE OPEN SPACES ARE PRETTY BIG.

SO. OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BRUCE.

ALL RIGHT, SO ANYBODY ELSE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM? ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.

GO AHEAD. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO.

APPROVE. I'M SORRY. I GOT TWO AGENDAS HERE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

23P-073 AS PRESENTED WITH EXCEPTIONS FROM STAFF.

SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SO GO AHEAD.

NO NO NO. GO AHEAD. SO ONCE AGAIN, I JUST I KNOW THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE CLOSE BY THERE.

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IT IS A TRADE OFF WHEN YOU GO FROM R-1 TO THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW.

YES. THE DEVELOPER GETS TO PUT IN A LITTLE BIT NARROWER STREET.

THERE IS LESS CONCRETE.

BUT ONE THING I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT UNTIL YOU MENTIONED IT IS, IS TEN DOES HAVE A GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT WHERE ONE DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY DO NOT. SO.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEVELOPER IS MAKING A PRETTY GOOD EFFORT TO PUT SOME GREEN SPACE IN THIS THAT THAT COMBINED WITH THERE COULD BE SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TEN THAT IS SOMEWHAT RESTRICTED THAT ZONING USE IS THERE.

NOW, RESURRECT IS VERY, VERY IT'S ONE OF THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE.

SO, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS PROBABLY SOMEWHAT OF A TIGHTENING OF THE ZONING IN LIEU OF SOMEBODY ASKING FOR MORE. SO THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAVE.

ANYBODY ELSE. ALL RIGHT.

IF NOT, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.

THOSE IN FAVOR? LOOKS LIKE. THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

SO, 23P-029.

NOPE. 23P-073 IS APPROVED.

YEAH. AND THAT WILL BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 16TH.

ALL RIGHTY. WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM B.1, 23P-076.

[7.B.1. 23P-076 (3106 Market / Avenue D) Request For Designation As A Galveston Landmark. The Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, Lot 10, Block 571, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Rosalyn Jackson Property Owner: Rosalyn Jackson]

THIS IS 3106 MARKET REQUEST FOR A DESIGNATION AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK.

THERE WERE SIX PUBLIC NOTICES SENT AND OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.

SO, THIS IS THE MILLER COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

WE START BY TALKING ABOUT RESTAURANT HOTEL EQUIPMENT SUPPLIER STEPHEN MILLER, WHO COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF THIS COMMERCIAL WOOD FRAME BUILDING IN 1951.

OPENED DURING THE ERA OF SEGREGATION.

ERA OF SEGREGATION.

THE BUILDING HAS SERVED PRIMARILY AFRICAN AMERICANS, INCLUDED AFRICAN AMERICAN BUSINESSES WHO PROVIDED GOODS AND SERVICES TO THE OLD CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

NEARBY IS THIS ASSOCIATION WITH GALVESTON'S AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT MAKES THE BUILDING HISTORICALLY AND CULTURALLY IMPORTANT.

STEPHEN THEODORE MILLER WAS BORN IN ADEN, TURKEY, AND IMMIGRATED TO THE US IN 1907 AND LIVED IN NEW YORK AND CHICAGO BEFORE COMING TO GALVESTON.

HE WORKED AS A WAITER AT THE HOTEL GALVEZ BEFORE GOING INTO HIS OWN BUSINESSES, INCLUDING A SOFT DRINK STAND AT 23RD AND SEAWALL.

HE ALSO HAD A RESTAURANT AT 2112 MARKET.

AFTER MOVING TO HOUSTON TO OPEN THE MAYFLOWER CONFECTIONERY COMPANY, HE RETURNED TO GALVESTON IN 1935 1940 WAS OPERATING HIS RESTAURANT AND HOTEL SUPPLY COMPANY.

HERE HE PURCHASED LOTS SIX THROUGH TEN OF BLOCK 571 FROM STOLTZ AND PETERSON, A FEED STORE WHICH OPERATED THE CORNER OF 31ST AND MECHANIC.

HE SOLD ALL THE PROPERTY EXCEPT LOT TEN, WHERE THE CURRENT BUILDING SITS.

FIRST TENANTS WERE THE 31ST STREET BEAUTY PARLOR AND 31ST STREET BAR, A MULTIPLE OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR STAFF LIST IN THE STAFF REPORT CAME DURING AND AFTER THAT ERA.

AFTER HIS PASSING IN 1952, HIS WIDOW AND CHILDREN MAINTAINED OWNERSHIP UNTIL 1966.

THE MILLER BUILDING QUICKLY BECAME A HUB FOR RETAIL SERVICES AND SOCIAL ACTIVITY IN THE OLD CENTRAL AND FACTORY DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG HARBOR SIDE.

AMONG THE NOTEWORTHY PARTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WERE THE BAYVIEW HOMES, WHICH WAS A 100 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING COMPLEX BUILT FOR SEGREGATED WARTIME WORKERS, VETERANS, AND THEIR FAMILIES. OF COURSE, STAR STATE ENGINE HOUSE NUMBER THREE IS JUST DOWN THE STREET WITH THE CITY'S FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN FIREFIGHTERS WERE HIRED IN 1957, AS WELL AS THREE BLACK INTERNATIONAL LONGSHOREMEN'S ASSOCIATION CHAPTERS IN THE AREA.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES FOR NEW LANDMARKS.

LANDMARK COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AT THE OCTOBER 26TH MEETING.

OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION REGARDING THIS REQUEST, AND WE'LL HEAR THAT AT THE NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS WELL, WITH STANDARD CONDITION.

THE STAFF REPORT AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS.

SO, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS IT LOOKS TODAY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, EAST SOUTH AND WEST.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU DANIEL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF I HAVE ONE.

IS THIS WHERE PLANNING STAFF MEETS AFTER HOURS.

NOT TYPICALLY. I'M JUST GIVING YOU A HARD TIME.

THERE'S A THERE'S A WATERING HOLE ACROSS THE STREET.

HOW WOULD I KNOW THAT? ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? COME ON DOWN.

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MY NAME IS ROSALYN JACKSON.

I'M SORRY. OKAY.

YOU WANT TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NOW? OKAY. TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY OR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

OKAY. THIS PROPERTY WAS.

HAND IT TO ME. IN A 17 5117 PRESTON MALOTT ASKED ME, DO YOU WANT TO RUN A CLUB? I SAID, WHAT? I SAID, NO, NOT REALLY.

BUT THEN HE HAD MS..

MCGREW AND DARNELL SAID, YOU CAN DO IT.

YOU CAN DO IT. YOU'RE ALWAYS DOING STUFF IN THE PUBLIC.

YOU CAN DO IT. I'M LIKE, OH, NO, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE I CAN DO.

SO, I BEGAN BUYING IT FROM PRESTON MALOTT STILL IS.

THIS MEAN A LOT TO ME BECAUSE A LOT OF MY PEOPLE WAS GOING HERE, AND PEOPLE THAT STILL GO HERE NOW ARE 98 AND 75 YEARS OLD.

AND THEY TALK ABOUT THIS, HOW THIS CLUB WAS THIS AND THIS AND THIS.

AND IT WAS A STORE.

IT WAS ANOTHER BEAUTY SHOP.

IT WAS A RESTAURANT. SO, I TRY TO DO THE SAME THING AND KEEP IT GOING.

SO WHEN I GOT THE PROPERTY, I STARTED DOING THE SAME THING.

I RENTED IT OUT TO KNOTT'S BERRY, DID ANOTHER RESTAURANT, OFELIA'S RESTAURANT, AND ALSO AS ME, A PUBLIC PERSON.

WE ALSO DO MORE THAN JUST THAT FOR THAT CLUB.

WE DO BACK TO SCHOOL PROGRAM FOR THE KIDS.

WE FEED THE HOMELESS, WE DO HALLOWEEN, WE DO EASTER.

SO THIS CLUB, THIS PLACE MEAN A LOT TO ME.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY, TO MAKE IT HISTORICAL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, DOES HE HAVE A TAB THERE? HE CAN. SHE'S LOOKING AT TIM.

OH. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

NO. SO THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW, HER ESTABLISHMENT IN THIS BUILDING IS KIND OF CATTY CORNER FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING WHERE PLANNING STAFF HANGS THEIR HATS. SO THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE THERE.

WE CAN TELL YOU'VE TAKEN A LITTLE PRIDE IN THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ARE THESE THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? YES, SIR. COME ON DOWN.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SEAN ARTHUR.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE OLD CENTRAL PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALSO A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER.

AND ALSO ON THE HISTORICAL BUSINESS HERE IN GALVESTON.

MS.. JACKSON WAS REAL LIGHT ON WHAT THE PLACE REALLY DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

OUR ASSOCIATION, ALONG WITH MS. JACKSON AND CLUB 68, WE ALWAYS TEAM UP TO DO SO MANY THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR US, REPAIRS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE SPACE AFTER THEIR LOVED ONES PASSED, NUMEROUS OF YOUTH PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, BRINGING YOUTH IN, TEACHING THEM DIFFERENT THINGS FOR US.

ART, LIKE YOU SAID, GIVING AWAY BOOK PAD, BOOK BACK, BACKPACKS, SCHOOL SUPPLIES.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST NUMEROUS THINGS FOR THE YOUTH PROGRAM, CLOTHING, ALMOST ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK ABOUT.

AND ANYBODY THAT BRINGS A SITUATION TO MS. JACKSON. SHE REACHES OUT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE REALLY TRY TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN FOR THE KIDS, THE FAMILIES IN NEED.

AND ALSO, SO THE PLACE HAS REALLY BECOME AN OUTREACH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE OLD CENTRAL PARK DISTRICT.

SO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN THE OUTREACH THAT WE'RE GIVING NOW TO OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THIS PLACE GOES BACK TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY FOR THE WORKING CLASS OF AFRICAN AMERICANS, WAY BACK WHEN THE BREWERY WAS OPENED, AND ALSO FOR THE LONGSHOREMAN'S.

SO, IT WAS A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME OUT AND HAVE A NICE DRINK AND GET BACK TO THE I SAID, GET BACK TO THE LONGSHOREMAN.

I'M JUST PICKING ON YOU BECAUSE THEY WERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED, AND I SUPPORT IT.

AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ASSOCIATION SUPPORT IT ALSO.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

YES, MA'AM. COME ON UP HERE AND TELL US YOUR NAME.

YOU CAN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LILLIAN MCGREW, AND I'M ONE OF THE MANAGERS OVER AT CLUB 68.

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AND SO WITH THIS PROPERTY BEING LOCATED AT 31ST AND MARKET BEING VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY FOR OVER 50 YEARS PLUS, IT HAS BEEN A STAPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND LIKE SEAN WAS JUST SAYING, AND MS. JACKSON AS WELL, THAT A LOT OF DIFFERENT BUSINESS HAS BEEN ON THIS STRIP RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE BERRY SALON, WE HAVE OUR FAILURES, AND WE HAVE CLUB 68, AS WELL AS OTHER EVENTS THAT WE THAT ARE HELD ON THAT, YOU KNOW, ON THAT PROPERTY.

OVER THE YEARS IT HAS BEEN A GROCERY STORE.

IT WAS THE OBSERVER NEWS.

IT'S DEFINITELY WE FEEL WORTHY OF BEING A LANDMARK.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT IT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY STRIP OF LAND THAT WE HAVE IN GALVESTON THAT WE CAN CALL OUR OWN.

AND MS. JACKSON DEFINITELY MAKES EVERYONE FEEL THAT THEY'RE A PART OF THAT PROPERTY, A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY WHEN THEY COME INTO THAT CLUB.

SO, I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PLEASE, I KNOW YOU ALL DECIDED THAT ALREADY DECIDED THAT Y'ALL WOULD MAKE IT A LANDMARK, BUT WE WANT TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND ENCOURAGE THEM AS WELL. SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYBODY ELSE? DO YOU SNEAK IN HERE? YEAH. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE.

YOU'RE JUST NOT USED TO ME BEING THIS QUIET.

THAT'S TRUE.

MY NAME IS THOMAS WOODS.

I'M THE FORMER CITY COUNCILMAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT ONE.

AND ALTHOUGH I'M NOT QUITE 75 OR 90.

MS. JACKSON, I DO VISIT THE PLACE FROM TIME TO TIME FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES ONLY.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL SUPPORT ALONG WITH THE OTHERS PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TODAY. AND WHEN I DO GO BACK SOMEWHAT 43 YEARS AGO WHEN I GOT STARTED IN THIS POLITICAL ARENA, THAT'S A LONG TIME. AND ANY TIME YOU DO SOMETHING FOR OVER 40 YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NO JOKE.

YOU KNOW YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT IT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN DISTRICT ONE THAT PARTICULAR TIME WAS THE BUSINESSES AND MINORITY BUSINESSES.

AND, AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE GIVEN THE TITLE OF, OF THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I WANTED TO GET THAT WORD IN AND GET IT ON RECORD THAT I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP THAT YOU ALL CAN DO.

AND I TAKE CARE OF ALL TABS.

OH, YEAH.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WHAT WAS YOUR YOU PROBABLY NEED TO DO SOME CREDIT CHECKS OVER THERE IF YOU'RE THE MANAGER.

MR. DAVID MILLER ASKED ME TO COME AND LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT HE SUPPORT THE THE LANDMARK EVENT AS WELL.

HE SAID, I CAN'T MAKE IT, BUT PLEASE LET THEM KNOW THAT I DEFINITELY SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

I'M ONE. COME ON.

IN NOVEMBER.

UH OH. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THE CLUB AND THE AREA ITSELF.

IT'S JUST A BLESSING TO GALVESTON ISLAND.

I'M 74. LIKE I SAID, I'M A COMMISSIONER FOR HOUSING AND THE AREA.

I USE IT ALL THE TIME.

I GO TO THE CLUB EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, AND I HELP THEM WITH THANKSGIVING.

I HELPED THEM WITH THE SCHOOL DRIVES, AND I HELPED THEM WITH SNOW CONES.

DON'T VOLUNTEER TO BE THE SNOW CONE PERSON OUT OF WORK.

IT'S A LOT HARDER THAN WHAT IT LOOK.

BUT I ENJOY EVERY MINUTE OF IT, AND I'M JUST SO PROUD OF THEM AND ALL THE THINGS THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

EVERY CHILD THAT WAS THERE FOR THE SCHOOL DRIVE RECEIVED THE BACKPACK.

THE BACKPACK WAS FULL OF SUPPLIES, AND THIS IS NOT THE ONLY TIME THEY DO THIS.

THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME.

THEY HAVE BICYCLES FOR THE CHILDREN FOR CHRISTMAS AS WELL AS OTHER CHRISTMAS PRESENTS.

THE PATRONS DONATE A LOT OF THE STUFF AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ABLE TO DO IT.

THE I 75 I REMEMBER BABY APARTMENTS.

I REMEMBER THE BUILDING BEING THERE.

I REMEMBER THEY HAD AN ICE CREAM SHOP THERE AND JUST LOOK AT HOW GOOD THE BUILDING LOOKED.

THEY HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAINTAIN IT.

AS ALL OF YOU ALL KNOW, THESE HISTORICAL BUILDINGS, THEY TAKE A LOT OF WORK TO KEEP THEM GOING, AND THEY WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING IS AS

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AND LIKE I SAY, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT EVENTS FOR PEOPLE THAT REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY 4 OR $500 TO HAVE A REPASS, THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THEIR PERMITS AND THEY LEGAL WOULDN'T BE SEEING.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK THAT YOU DO, NOT JUST TODAY, BUT ALL THE TIMES.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU WORK ON THESE COMMITTEES, IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S TIME CONSUMING.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT YOU APPROVED IT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK REALLY HARD TO KEEP IT LOOKING JUST LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM, DO YOU NEED A SIGN? I DID OH, YOU WANT ME TO SAY IT.

PATRICIA TOLIVER? THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT.

AND I DID WANT TO ASK HIM DOWN.

SURE. UM, MISS JACKSON, IF I COULD ASK JUST FOR A SECOND.

YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THESE DONATIONS AND STUFF.

IS THIS DONE JUST THROUGH PATRONS THAT COME THROUGH? IT'S NOT THROUGH. YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY GRANTS OR ANYTHING ELSE? NO. NOBODY COMES UP AND SAYS, HERE'S A CHECK AND HELP TO HELP YOU OUT FROM ANY ASSOCIATION.

THAT'S AMAZING. ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? THAT'S AMAZING. I LOVE IT.

NO. YES, SIR.

MY NAME IS DOUGLAS HINES, AND I DON'T DO MUCH AS ARTHUR BOYD DOES, BUT I GREW UP IN GALVESTON, I PLAYED BASEBALL, WE USED TO LIVE IN BAYVIEW.

WE GET. WE PLAYED BASEBALL.

WE GO TO THE STORE, GET OUR LITTLE SODAS AND KOOL CUPS.

WE RUN OVER TO CROSS STREET.

WE LIFT OUR SELF UP AND SMELL THE BEER.

COME OUT THERE, WALK BACK.

YOU. WE'RE A LITTLE DRUNK THOUGH, BUT HEY, BUT IT'S OKAY.

BUT MISS JACKSON, THAT'S MY GIRL.

SHE WORKED ME TO DEATH.

DON'T PAY ME. BUT ANYWAY, I LOVE DOING WORK FOR HER AND I LOVE GOING AROUND NOW, SINCE THE WOMEN, THEY OFF IN THE SPORTS NOW BECAUSE THEY WENT BACK INTO SPORTS BACK THEN.

THEY KNOW SPORTS BETTING ME NOW I CAN'T, I CAN'T TRICK THEM OR NOTHING.

NOT TO GET OFF INTO.

THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING.

BUT AS FAR AS GALVESTON AND 68, I LOVE IT MAN.

SO TRY TO TRY TO JUST KEEP IT THERE MAN, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO AND WE JUST HAVE FUN OVER THERE.

AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY BECAUSE MAN, I HAVE FUN OVER THERE, MAN, I REALLY DO.

I'D BE CAREFUL TRYING TO TRICK THE WOMEN.

I CAN'T TRICK THEM NO MORE.

KNOW THAT OUT THERE. I CAN'T DO IT NO MORE, MAN.

NOW THEY GOT THEY GOT MORE WOMEN IN US.

NOW WE AIN'T CAN'T DO NOTHING.

SO I JUST, I JUST GO WHEREVER THEY SAY.

YEAH, OKAY. YES. OKAY.

I JUST GOT TO GO ALONG WITH IT.

BECAUSE IF I SAY NO, I'M, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T HANDLE THEM, MAN.

ALL RIGHT. THEY USED TO HAVE A A WEIGHT ROOM OVER THERE, TOO, FOR ONE WHILE I USED TO GO LIFT WEIGHTS AND STUFF OVER THERE.

BUT THAT DIDN'T LAST LONG THOUGH.

BUT I STILL WAS GOING OVER THERE TO WORK OUT AND STUFF LIKE THAT THOUGH.

BUT THAT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, RAISED UP ON THAT BUILDING, MAN.

WE PLAYED BASEBALL OVER THERE.

GO OVER THERE AND GET ALL THE COOL CUPS AND SODAS AND STUFF OVER THERE.

SO, I JUST HOPE Y'ALL KEEP IT ALL RIGHT.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

WE NEED YOU TO SIGN IN, SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND ANYBODY ELSE.

HUH? THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME, MAN. HOW Y'ALL DOING? I'M DARNELL CURRY, AND I'M WITH MS. ROSALYN JACKSON AND MS. LEE MCGREW. AND I'M ONE OF THE MANAGERS, TOO.

AND THE MAINTENANCE MAN. AND WE REALLY DO NEED SOME GRANTS TO HELP OUT ME KEEP FROM KEEPING IT UP A GRANT FOR ME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THEY WORKING ME TO DEAL GOING IN MY POCKET, BUT IT'S A NICE PLACE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE THE ONLY AFRICAN AMERICAN CLUB HERE IN GALVESTON NOW, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO KEEP IT GOING, TRY TO KEEP IT UP.

AND SHE DO REALLY WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY, FEED THE HOMELESS AND EVERYTHING, LIKE SHE'S SAYING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE GIVE A DONATION WHEN WE HAVE CLUB NIGHTS FOR CHRISTMAS BREAKS FOR THE KIDS AND TOYS AND EVERYTHING.

THANKSGIVING AND MISS PAT TYLER AND LINDA MCGREW.

WE ALL BEEN THERE COOKING AND FEEDING THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW? AND I'M MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME.

YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU GET OFF.

I APPRECIATE THE INVITE.

TARA'S GOT THE TAB. THANK YOU.

THAT'S. I HEARD THAT, TOO.

IT'S ON THE RECORD.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

YES, MA'AM.

MY NAME IS DEBORAH CURRY.

I'M HIS BIG SISTER.

HIS MAMA TOO.

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THEY CAN CALL HIM AT ANY TIME TO COME, DO WHATEVER WORK THEY NEED DONE OVER THERE, AND THEY CAN DEPEND ON HIM.

I CAN DEPEND ON HIM ALSO AT MY HOUSE.

I CALL HIM TOO. QUITE A BIT.

BUT CLUB 68.

THAT CLUB HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS.

IT WASN'T CALLED 68 THEN.

I REMEMBER IT BEING THE GYPSY CLUB.

VAGABOND. PARADISE.

IT WAS A NUMBER OF NAMES.

MR. HAROLD WAS THERE AT ONE TIME WITH HIS PAPER.

DOING PAPER? I CAN REMEMBER ANOTHER MAN THAT WAS THERE.

HE HAD RENTED A PART OF IT TO DO A WEIGHTS WORKOUT AND ALL THAT STUFF.

I REMEMBER AS A LITTLE GIRL GOING OVER THERE.

WE USED TO CUT THROUGH FROM CEDAR TERRACE.

THERE WAS A LITTLE DITCH WITH THE CITY SITTING RIGHT NOW TO GET TO THROUGH BAYVIEW TO HEMPS WHEN HE HAD THE LITTLE STORE.

THE GROCERY STORE THERE, AND WE USED TO HAVE TO CROSS OVER THIS LITTLE DITCH, LIKE ON A PIECE OF WOOD, AND YOU GOT TO GET A RUNNING START TO GET UP THE LITTLE HILL.

ARE YOU GOING TO FALL BACK DOWN IN THE MUD? BUT WE WILL CROSS THROUGH THERE TO GET OVER THERE TO GET THE LEMON ICE CREAM.

I DON'T KNOW, NOBODY ELSE HAS GOT THE LEMON ICE CREAM, BUT IT WAS GOOD.

IT WAS QUITE A BIT.

MY MOTHER IS 82 NOW, AND I REMEMBER HER GOING THERE WHEN IT WAS THE VAGABOND.

AND I REMEMBER AS A LITTLE GIRL, YOU KNOW.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING? SHE WAS GOING RIGHT OVER THERE FROM CEDAR TERRACE TO THERE.

DIDN'T HAVE FAR TO GO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, SHE ABLE TO COME RIGHT BACK HOME.

BUT I'VE ALSO DATED MY SON'S DAD AND THEY WOULD GO THERE ALL THE TIME.

LONGSHOREMAN. THEY WOULD GO THERE A LOT.

AND IT WAS A NICE PLACE AND IT STILL IS.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ENJOY THEMSELVES.

PEOPLE ASK WHERE TO GO, LIKE, THIS IS THE ONLY BLACK CLUB HERE YOU KNOW, TO COME TO, AND IT'S NICE.

ROSLYN, TREAT EVERYBODY WELL.

YOU KNOW, MS. LEE AND MY BROTHER, YOU KNOW, THEY WAIT ON FOLKS, THEY INVITE PEOPLE, EVEN Y'ALL COME THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY WHITE FACES IN THERE, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, BEAUTIFUL ATMOSPHERE.

AND I WISH YOU COULD KEEP IT BECAUSE I'LL BE TURNING 66 NEXT MONTH.

I PLAN ON GIVING MY PARTY A BIRTHDAY PARTY THERE.

YEAH, I'M PLANNING MY PARTY THERE, BUT IT'S NICE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY HERE.

YOU KNOW, CLUB PJ'S AND ALL THESE OTHER CLUBS ARE GONE, YOU KNOW, ENGLISH AND WHATEVER ELSE WAS HERE ONCE, ONCE BEFORE THEY ARE ALL GONE BUT US.

SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL AND THE HELP THAT WE GET FOR IT.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

AND THE INVITATION.

YES. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? KEVIN. DO WE DO WE VOTE ON THIS? MAKE A MOTION. BUT THERE'S NO HERE.

THIS. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? OH, OKAY. I SEE YOU BACK THERE.

I'M SORRY. COME ON.

HOW'S EVERYONE DOING? GOOD, GOOD.

MY NAME IS CHAD GRIMES.

I KNOW THAT I LOOK YOUNGER, BUT I AM 37 YEARS OLD, AND I HAVE NOT REACHED 68 OR THAT AGE.

BUT WHAT I AM HEARING IS ONE.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR MAKING HISTORICAL.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S NOT.

IT IS ABOUT OUR LEGACY, ABOUT OUR PEOPLE.

AND LISTEN, WHEN MARTIN LUTHER KING CAME, IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS.

IT WAS ABOUT ALL PEOPLE.

AND I THINK THAT BY MAKING HISTORICAL IS KEEPING THE LEGACY GOING.

THAT'S JUST LIKE SAYING WE WON'T TAKE AWAY MARTIN LUTHER KING STREETS BECAUSE THEY ARE STATE NATIONWIDE, BECAUSE HISTORY MATTERS.

MY AGE, MY GENERATION, THEY DON'T VALUE HISTORY ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S ALL BEEN COVERED.

IT'S ALL BEING TAKEN AWAY.

AND NOW THEY'RE BELIEVING THAT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT ANYMORE.

SO THEY ARE GOING THE WRONG SIDE.

BUT IF WE CONTINUE, Y'ALL CONTINUE BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE THE CHOICE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND Y'ALL DO, IT MATTERS.

AND FOR MY GENERATION, I'M SPEAKING FOR THE YOUNG.

WE KNOW IT COUNTS BECAUSE IN THE END, Y'ALL WILL BE THE ONES THAT MADE A HISTORICAL.

AND NOT ONLY WILL IT BE JUST ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS, IT WILL BE ALL THAT MADE A DIFFERENCE AND KEPT THE LEGACY GOING.

SO MY GRANDFATHER, WHO WAS IN THE US NAVY, OLIVER GEORGE GRIMES, DIED AT 91.

HE TAUGHT ME EVERYTHING AND HOW TO VALUE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T VALUE.

THAT'S THEIR FAULT.

BUT I THINK THAT IT IS VALUABLE TO KNOW YOUR HISTORY AND TO RESPECT IT, BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A CHOICE WHERE TO

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I'M AN ISLANDER.

WHEN I GO PLACES, I REPRESENT FOR THE ISLAND AND I REPRESENT FOR EVERY COLOR.

BUT I THINK THAT IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE KEEP IT GOING, THE LEGACY WE SHOW THEM.

HEY, Y'ALL WANT TO DESTROY IT? Y'ALL WANT TO STOP IT, BUT YOU CANNOT STOP THAT.

WE ARE ALL ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE DAY I WANT TO GO TO THAT CLUB AND I WANT TO ENJOY IT.

AND I WANT TO TELL MY CHILDREN AND MY OTHER CHILDREN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN AND EVEN THOSE, EVEN IF I DON'T HAVE NONE, EVERYONE, THE HISTORY OF IT AND THE HISTORY IS THAT WE THE PEOPLE, AFRICAN AMERICAN AND EVEN WE WELCOME ALL THAT WE HAVE SOMEWHERE.

SOMEWHERE. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND IT IS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

IT IS ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. YOU GUYS ARE VERY WELL REPRESENTED.

AND I WANT TO TELL YOU MY PERSONAL HATS OFF TO YOU FOR YOUR COMMUNITY COMING OUT AND TAKING THE TIME TO COME HERE.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MEETINGS STARTED, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY.

SO THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OH I'M SORRY. NO, NO.

AND WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BRING IT. YES MA'AM.

AND AS YOU SAY THAT COMMISSIONER, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST AMOUNT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE ATTENDED A LANDMARK REVIEW FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION EVER.

AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 13 YEARS, SO KUDOS TO THE YES TO THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. AGREE WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OH WE JUST WANT TO DO IT.

ALL OF US WANT TO DO IT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

23P-076, I MOVE WE APPROVE BY UNANIMOUS PROCLAMATION 23 076.

CAN I DO THAT? NO.

SECOND YOUR MOTION.

YOU WERE FIXING TO MAKE MY HEART JOB REALLY HARD, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

SO, CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

NOW, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT THAT WILL BE HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 16TH.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO C 120 3P-009 OUR TEXT AMENDMENT.

[7.C.1. 23PA-009 Text Amendment To Chapter 29 “Planning – Beach Access Dune Protection And Beach Front Construction” Of The Code Of The City Of Galveston To Modify Beach Access At Access Points (AP) 2, 3, 8, 9, 12, And 13 For Beach Access Compliance.]

ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

COMMISSIONERS STAFF IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON'S 2015 CHAPTER 29 PLAN AND BEACH ACCESS, DUNE PROTECTION AND BEACH FRONT CONSTRUCTION TO MODIFY REGULATIONS RELATED TO BEACH ACCESS.

IN 2019, THE CITY OF GALVESTON WAS INVITED BY THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE THAT THE CITY WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS 2004 DUNE PROTECTION AND BEACH ACCESS PLAN, AND O INTENDED TO ENFORCE THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN.

THE GENERAL NATURE OF THE NONCOMPLIANCE INVOLVED PARKING SHORTAGES, MISSING ACCESS POINT INFORMATION INFRASTRUCTURE, AND NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF MISSING SIGNAGE OR EXCESS SIGNAGE THAT CONFLICTED WITH THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN.

IT WAS APPARENT THAT THE PLAN, AS PRESENTED AND APPROVED IN 2004, DID NOT ACCURATELY CONTEMPLATE THE ACTUAL EXISTING PARKING SPACES ON THE GROUND, AND AS SUCH, THE ADOPTED PLAN WAS NOT ABLE TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT MODIFICATION.

THE PLAN STATED CONDITIONS IN SEVERAL GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS.

MORE RECENT EVENT.

ADVENT OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON GEOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION SYSTEM.

THE CITY WAS ABLE TO SUBSEQUENTLY VERIFY EXISTING CONDITIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMPLIANCE PROCESS, AND MUCH WITH MUCH GREATER ACCURACY THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN 2004 AND INCORPORATE THE RESULTS AND UPDATING.

BEACH ACCESS. PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

AFTER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF WORKING WITH SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THE GLO, THE CITY RECEIVED GLO APPROVAL OF THE PARKING SPACE COMPLIANCE EFFORTS VIA CORRESPONDENCE DATED FEBRUARY 2ND, 2023.

THE GLO FEBRUARY 2ND CORRESPONDENCE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS HAD AGAIN BECOME NON-COMPLIANT SINCE THEIR INITIAL APPROVAL DUE TO SIGNAGE ISSUES. THUS, THE YELLOW REQUIRED A COMPLIANCE MAINTENANCE PLAN BE PREPARED, WHICH OUTLINED HOW THE CITY WOULD ENSURE ONGOING COMPLIANCE MOVING FORWARD.

AMENDING THESE ORDINANCES WILL UPDATE INFORMATION ON PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT SEVERAL CITY OF GALVESTON BEACH ACCESSES.

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THE BEACH ACCESS POINTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE UPDATE OR ACCESS POINT TO STEWART BEACH ACCESS POINT THREE STEWART BEACH URBAN PARK ACCESS POINT SIX.

POCKET PARK NUMBER ONE ACCESS POINT EIGHT BEACHSIDE VILLAGE ACCESS POINT.

POCKET PARK TWO.

ESCAPE CONDOMINIUMS. ACCESS POINT 12 BERMUDA BEACH AND ACCESS POINT 13.

POCKET PARK THREE.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE MAPS AND THE LANGUAGES.

WE'VE WENT THROUGH THIS EXTENSIVELY IN THE WORKSHOPS, SO I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW.

SO THIS IS ACCESS POINT TO SOME OF THE ADDITIONS TO THIS WERE THE ADDITION OF FREE PARKING NORTH EAST OF STEWART BEACH, REMOVING LANGUAGE RELATED TO 2640FT OF THE ADA RESTRICTED AREA ON THE EAST END, AND REPLACING THAT WITH 500FT OF LINEAR FEET ON THE WESTERN END OF THE PARK.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS SHOWING THE 500 FOOT ADA ACCESS RESTRICTED USE AREA ON THE WESTERN END OF STEWART BEACH PARK.

ACCESS 0.3 STUART PARK STUART BEACH URBAN PARK.

LANGUAGE CHANGES REQUESTED IS NUMERICAL.

PUT A NUMERICAL VALUE ON THE STREET.

PARKING 1193 SPACES LOCATED ON NORTH AND SOUTH, ALSO IDENTIFYING THE FREE PARKING AND THEN ALSO IDENTIFYING THE FREE PARKING LOCATED AT STUART BEACH TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE ADDITIONAL PARKING ALONG STUART BEACH URBAN PARK.

POCKET PARK ONE ADDED LANGUAGES FOR 200FT OF ADA RESTRICTED USE PARKING LOCATED ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PARK.

THIS IS AN UPDATE TO PARKING THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT BEACHSIDE VILLAGE, CHANGING IT FROM JUST PARKING.

LISTED IN THE EXISTING BEACH ACCESS PLAN OF SEA BUTTERFLY STREET TO THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS UPDATES TO POCKET PARK NUMBER TWO, STATING THAT THE CURRENT POCKET PARK HAS 265 SPACES, AND THE REST OF THE PARKING SPOTS REQUIRED FOR THIS AREA WILL BE LOCATED AT ACCESS POINT EIGHT AND ACCESS POINT 15A.

BERMUDA BEACH.

UPDATES TO THE LENGTH OF BEACH PARKING FROM 150 LINEAR FEET TO 564, AND UPDATING THE NUMBER LOCATED THROUGHOUT DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION, REDUCING IT FROM 211 TO 87A POCKET PARK.

THREE CHANGING THE LANGUAGE FROM OFF BEACH PARKING, WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE TO 350 LINEAR FEET ON BEACH PARKING, WITH 200 OR 300 OF THAT BEING DESIGNATED AS ADA PARKING TO HELP COMPENSATE FOR THE REMOVAL OF ADA PARKING AT ACCESS POINT 1.C. THIS IS SHOWING THE 300FT OF DESIGNATED ADA PARKING ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PARK.

SO THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORTS.

AND THE STAFF IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THESE LANGUAGE CHANGES FOR THE ORDINANCES.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IS THERE A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA FOR THE BEACH PARKING AND HOW IT REDUCES THE REQUIRED PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE STREETS? YES.

SO, GLO REQUIRES ANYWHERE THAT THERE'S OFF.

WELL, THERE'S OFF BEACH PARKING.

YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE AT A MINIMUM, AT LEAST ONE SPOT PER 15 LINEAR FEET.

NOW, THERE THAT THERE ARE SOME SUBDIVISIONS AND OTHER PLACES THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDE MORE THAN THE REQUIRED.

SO THERE COULD BE A DIFFERENCE.

YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE DIFFERENT NUMBERS, BUT SOME, SOME PLACES LIKE TO, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHEN THEY RESTRICTED, THEY APPLIED MORE.

BUT THE GLO REQUIREMENT IS ONE SPOT PER 15 LINEAR FEET OF BEACH ACCESS IS RESTRICTED.

OKAY. SO IF YOU INCREASE THE ON BEACH PARKING BY 150FT, THAT REDUCES HOW MANY FROM

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IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY WAS THERE.

LIKE I SAID, IF THEY HAD AN EXCESS NUMBER SO THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, THEY IT COULD BE ONE PER 15 OR IT COULD BE SOME OTHER NUMERIC VALUE.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE BERMUDA BEACH, I THINK THEY ACTUALLY DID SOME OF SQUARE FOOTAGE TO TRY TO GET INTO THAT.

I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME SQUARE FOOTAGES.

YEAH. IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THE CALCULATION IN ESSENCE WAS BASED UPON THE SPACE, EACH SPACE ITSELF, WHICH IS BASICALLY 9 BY 18. AND THAT'S I FORGET HOW MANY SQUARE FEET THAT IS.

EXACTLY. WE COULD DO THE MATH, BUT AND THEN WE, WE ADDED HALF THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVE AISLE, WHICH WOULD TYPICALLY BE ABOUT 2025 IS A FULL DRIVE AISLE.

SO, 12FT ONTO THAT ON AVERAGE TO GET, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE SPACES AND THE DRIVABLE ACCESS TO THOSE SPACES.

THAT'S HOW THAT THAT WAS GENERATED, THAT THAT SPACE.

OKAY. YES, SIR.

SO, IN ONE OF THE COMMENTS ONLINE, SOME OF THE FAQS IN HERE SAYS THAT THE STATE DOES NOT OFFER A CREDIT SYSTEM FOR PARKING.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT IF THIS IS SO SO MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

YOU WE CAN SPREAD OUT 100 SPOTS HERE, 100 SPOTS HERE, 100 SPOTS HERE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS DOES NOT FALL UNDER THAT? WELL, LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE WHEN I STARTED IS A COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED WHEN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH.

THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THEY WERE GIVEN BY GLO.

WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS, THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF WAS GIVEN WAS, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN. OKAY. THAT WAS THAT WAS A CHANGE IN, YOU KNOW, THE MANAGEMENT AT GLOW FROM WHEN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH IT AND ASKED THAT QUESTION TO WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON BRINGING THIS INTO COMPLIANCE.

OKAY. INTERESTED.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. UM, CONCERNING THE ON-BEACH PARKING AND THE ADA, HOW WILL THIS BE MARKED? HAVE YOU FIGURED OUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT MARKED? AND THEN IN RELATION TO THE TIDE MOVEMENTS AND THE INCREASING BEACH SIZE IN PLACES WHERE THEY'RE LOSING BEACH, WE WOULD LOSE BOTHERS.

LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOOK AT WHERE IT WAS AT, BUT WE WOULD GO OFF OF THE MEAN HIGH TIDE AND GO IN, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN DISTANCE.

AND WE WOULD PUT IT IN AND IT WOULD BE MARKED IN ANTICIPATING THAT THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME OBSERVANCE TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY MOVE THEM UP AND FORWARD. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GO, LIKE I SAID, THE ENTIRE WIDTH.

BUT WE WOULD EVALUATE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AREAS OR, YOU KNOW, ERODING AT DIFFERENT RATES AND THE TIDES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT WOULD BE OBSERVED, AND WE WOULD MOVE BOLLARDS, YOU KNOW, AFTER A WHILE OBSERVING WHAT WAS GOING ON OUT THERE.

YEAH. AND THE ADA PARKING YOU IT WILL BE DESIGNATED HANDICAPPED PARKING.

ADA. YEAH. SO, WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE PARK BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, BOLLARDS PAINTED, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY BLUE ON THE TOP WITH SIGNAGE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, ADA PARKING ONLY.

SO, WE CAN BE CONSISTENT BETWEEN WHAT THE PARK BOARD DOES, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, OKAY, ANYBODY THAT COMES TO THE ISLAND IS KIND OF SEEING SOMETHING CONSISTENT.

GOOD. GREAT. I WILL ADD THAT WE ALSO PLAN TO PARTNER WITH THE PARK BOARD IN TERMS OF GETTING THE WORD OUT PUBLICITY ABOUT THIS SO FOLKS KNOW THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE TO THEM.

GREAT. GOOD QUESTION.

YES, SIR. SO ON THE PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SEAWALL, THE FREE PARKING, IS THAT GOING TO BE TO OUR PARKING FOR OUR PARKING, UNLIMITED PARKING? I DON'T THINK THERE'S I DON'T THINK THE SIGN I THINK IT JUST SAYS FREE PARKING.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN HOUR LIMIT PARKING.

YEAH. YEAH, PARKING. I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN HOUR LIMIT ON THE ON ON THAT PARKING.

OKAY. AND GLOW IS FINE WITH THAT.

THE LANGUAGE THAT THE LANGUAGE IS IN THE ORDINANCE CHANGES IS LANGUAGE THAT THEY'VE APPROVED AND.

YES SIR. AND IS THAT 218 AN INCREASE IN AVAILABLE PARKING OR A DECREASE OR IS IT THE SAME.

THE TO 18 WAS THE 10%, WHICH IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER, 10%, SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 10%, BUT THE 10% IS ALSO AN ARBITRARY NUMBER.

IT'S ARBITRARY, BUT IT'S MANDATED BY THE BUT THAT'S THE GLO NUMBER, NOT THE CITY OF GALVESTON'S NUMBER.

OKAY, OKAY.

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IT IT'S I THOUGHT WE HAD A DEFINED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES NOW THE 1993.

WHEREAS IN THE OLD LANGUAGE IT WAS NOT DEFINED, BUT ON THE SEAWALL THE PARKING IS WE NOW, WHEN THIS IS APPROVED OR ASSUMING THIS IS APPROVED, WE WOULD HAVE A FIXED NUMBER, WHEREAS TODAY WE REALLY DO NOT.

IT'S VERY ARBITRARY.

SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

ALL RIGHT THEN WE'LL OPEN THIS TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS ANYBODY HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE.

OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACTION.

OOH! I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

BUT THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL TEXT AMENDMENT.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. YEAH.

SO, THIS IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT 23A-009.

I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THOSE AMENDED THE AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

I'LL SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ADD THE COMMENT THAT IF BECAUSE I DO KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE WHO DO LISTEN TO US, THAT WE DID SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS IN A WORKSHOP.

SO, IF YOU DID NOT SEE THAT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THAT.

THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.

JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS THIS IS A STEP IN THE PROCESS OF KEEPING US COMPLIANT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE CHANGES.

I THINK STAFF ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THOSE CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.

SO, WE'LL SEE MORE OF THESE TYPE OF ITEMS REGARDING BEACH ACCESS OR THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN AS IT IS.

SO, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.

THOSE IN FAVOR.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

SO, 23A-009 PASSES.

SO, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO 23ZA-004 REQUEST FOR TAX TEXT AMENDMENT REAL

[7.C.2. 23ZA-004 Request For A Text Amendment To The Galveston Land Development Regulations, Article 2, Uses And Supplemental Standards To Modify Requirements For Permanent Commercial Uses. Applicant: Michael Gaertner, Sr., Architect]

YES, SIR. AND CHAIRMAN THE THIS WILL GO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WILL GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 26TH MEETING OCTOBER 26TH. OKAY. THANK YOU.

TIM. READY? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. 23ZA-004 IS A TEXT AMENDMENT.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE SOME EXEMPTIONS FROM SECTION 2.602, PERMANENT COMMERCIAL USES. THIS SECTION REQUIRES THAT ON ALL NON RESIDENTIAL USES, BE OPERATED OUT OF A PERMANENT BUILDING EQUIPPED WITH A RESTROOM.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT THE FOLLOWING USES BE EXEMPTED FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF A PERMANENT BUILDING, AND THOSE USES ARE AGRICULTURAL AGRICULTURE.

URBAN FARMING.

CEMETERY, COMMUNITY GARDEN HELISTOP, OUTDOOR STORAGE, PARKING LOT, COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING AREA, RAIL YARD, AND RECREATION OUTDOOR.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING THAT THE FOLLOWING USES BE EXEMPTED FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE RESTROOM FACILITIES THOSE USES LISTED ABOVE, AND THEN ALSO AIRCRAFT HANGARS, AUTO CHARGING STATION, PARKING STRUCTURE, VENDING KIOSK, ATM AND WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY.

THE DEFINITIONS OF THOSE LAND USES WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT IN EXHIBIT C, WHILE STAFF AGREES THAT SOME OF THE USES PROPOSED TO BE EXEMPTED MAY NOT REQUIRE PERMANENT BUILDINGS OR RESTROOMS, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FOLLOWING USES.

CEMETERY CEMETERIES TYPICALLY HAVE PERMANENT BUILDINGS, SUCH AS CHAPELS, OFFICES, OR STORAGE BUILDINGS.

RECREATION. OUTDOOR.

RECREATION. OUTDOOR IS A BROAD LAND USE THAT INCLUDES MANY TYPES OF RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING USES SUCH AS SWIMMING POOLS, GOLF COURSES, AND FISHING PIERS.

DUE TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE POTENTIALLY USING RECREATION OUTDOOR FACILITIES, THE REQUIREMENT OF A BUILDING AND BATHROOMS IS APPROPRIATE IN THE SUBMITTAL.

THE APPLICANT USES TERMINOLOGY NOT FOUND IN THE LAND USE TABLE AND ARTICLE TWO OF THE LDR, AND THOSE ARE AIRCRAFT HANGAR, AUTO CHARGING STATION AND PARKING STRUCTURE.

TO AVOID CONFUSION, ALL TERMS MUST MATCH THOSE FOUND IN TABLE 2.201.

CRITERIA FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS IS LISTED FOR YOU IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

OTHER REVIEWS. CITY COUNCIL HAS FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY ON THIS REQUEST, AND IT WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE OCTOBER 26TH MEETING.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS REQUIRE THAT ALL LAND USES BE OPERATED OUT OF A PERMANENT BUILDING WITH A RESTROOM.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO EXEMPT SOME LAND USES FROM THIS REQUIREMENT, AS NOT ALL USES ACTUALLY NEED A PERMANENT BUILDING OR A RESTROOM.

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AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CATHERINE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL. GO AHEAD. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS ALL ABOUT.

I'M UNCLEAR FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT LISTINGS OF POSSIBLE USES OF THE OF THE STRUCTURES OR BUILDINGS, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THE APPLICANTS HERE COULD GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY THIS CAME FORWARD.

IT CAME FROM A COMPLIANCE ISSUE, A CITY COMPLIANCE ISSUE.

YES. THERE WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS BEING USED, I THINK, FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE, BUT THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE A PERMANENT BUILDING.

OKAY. SO THAT'S HOW IT CAME ABOUT.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT RESEARCHED THE REQUIREMENTS AND CAME UP WITH ALL THESE OTHER USES THAT HE THOUGHT ALSO DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU CATHERINE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CAN WE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. SIGN IN.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I'M MICHAEL GAERTNER, ARCHITECT, AND I HAVE A CLIENT THAT HAS AN OUTDOOR STORAGE FACILITY.

AND OF COURSE, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFICULTY INVOLVED IN DOING ALL OF THIS.

YOU CAN BUILD AN OUTDOOR STRUCTURE AND YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN A RESTROOM.

SO, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ELEVATED ABOVE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, WHERE YOU CAN PUT IN AN ELEVATOR, FOR A RESTROOM, FOR A BUILDING THAT YOU DON'T NEED BECAUSE IT'S AN UNATTENDED OUTDOOR STORAGE.

SO I WAS A BOY SCOUT IN BOY SCOUTS.

THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS MADE US CLEAN UP THE CAMPGROUND WHEN WE LEFT, MADE IT MAKE IT NICER THAN IT WAS WHEN YOU GOT THERE.

AND SO, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WHO COULD BE COMING BEHIND ME THAT MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS WHERE BUILDING IS REQUIRED, LIKE A HELISTOP, FOR EXAMPLE, DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED ITS OWN BUILDING.

I HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED ALMOST INSURMOUNTABLE PROBLEMS IN TRYING TO DO AIRCRAFT HANGARS, SO THAT'S WHY I INCLUDED THAT.

I UNDERSTAND STAFF'S CONCERN ABOUT THAT, AND I AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND WOULD HOPE THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME.

OKAY. AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I LOOKED AT THIS AND THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? I HAD YOUR QUESTION, ANTHONY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS DOES EXPAND QUITE A BIT FROM OUTDOOR STORAGE.

I CAN, I CAN I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.

SURE. WELL, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OF THE PROBLEMS YOU RUN INTO IN GALVESTON IN A FLOOD ZONE, LIKE IF YOU PUT IN, IF YOU DO AN APARTMENT PROJECT AND YOU HAVE A SWIMMING POOL, YOU CAN'T HAVE TOILET ROOMS FOR THE SWIMMING POOL BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ELEVATED ABOVE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.

THEN YOU HAVE TO PUT IN AN ELEVATOR, AND BY THE TIME YOU'RE DONE, YOUR TOILET ROOMS HAVE COST, YOU KNOW, $350,000.

YEAH, I COULDN'T HIT THAT WITH THIS ONE, BUT IT'S ONE THAT'S ON MY LIST.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'VE UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I MEAN, THE BATHROOMS ON THE GROUND FLOOR, ESPECIALLY IN THE THE HANDS DOWN IN THE ZONES.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A NONSTARTER.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO YOU'RE YOUR PROBLEM TODAY IS IS WITH YOUR CLIENT WHO HAS OUTDOOR STORAGE.

AND OUTDOOR STORAGE REQUIRES A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AND A RESTROOM.

SO THAT'S THAT'S YOUR THAT'S THE REALLY THAT'S THE CRUX OF WHY YOU'RE HERE.

THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT, TO BE HONEST.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY YOU CARE ABOUT MORE, BUT I MEAN SO AND THAT ONE I CAN SEE I TOTALLY I TOTALLY GET THAT ONE.

SORT OF. THE POINT IS THAT THE WAY THE LAND USE REGULATIONS ARE WRITTEN, EVERY USE, EVERY SINGLE LAND USE THAT'S IN THE LAND USE REGULATIONS REQUIRES A BUILDING AND RESTROOMS. AND THERE ARE SOME WHERE THAT JUST ISN'T APPROPRIATE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I ADDED THE LANGUAGE TO PROVIDE FOR SOME EXCEPTIONS, WHICH WILL SAVE HOPEFULLY SOME PEOPLE THE TIME AND EXPENSE OF DOING THIS BECAUSE IT COSTS MY TIME, STAFF TIME.

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SO LET'S TRY TO COVER WHAT WE CAN WHILE WE'RE HERE.

YEAH, I ONLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.

I, I TRY TO FORGET THOSE.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. IT BRINGS UP SOME MORE STAFF QUESTIONS FOR ME.

BUT I WOULD LIKE IF WE HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

SO JUST JUST KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE, OKAY? I'LL BE RIGHT HERE IF YOU NEED ME.

SO. WELL HOLD ON.

WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, IF ANYBODY ELSE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

OKAY. WE HAVE NONE.

SO SHOULD I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IF I MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR HIM? WE'LL JUST KEEP IT GOING OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO I GUESS, TIM OR WHOEVER.

HE DOES HAVE A VALID POINT ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. URBAN FARMING, I MEAN, HAVING A STRUCTURE IN A BATHROOM FOR URBAN FARMING, THAT'S A GOOD ONE.

CEMETERY. I'M ON THE BUBBLE ON THAT COMMUNITY GARDEN.

YOU KNOW, I SEE THE POINT WITH THAT ONE.

HELISTOP FOR SURE.

YOU KNOW, OUTDOOR STORAGE.

AND I'M JUST GOING DOWN THE LIST.

SO ANY OF YOU GUYS JUST STOP ME WHEN YOU'RE READY.

YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE HAVING SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE THERE.

I MEAN, IT IS A BUSINESS.

SO I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT EXTENT THEY NEED SOME TYPE OF BUILDING.

THE PROBLEM IS IT HAS TO HAVE OCCUPANCY AND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT GO WITH IT.

SO, I CAN SEE THAT OUTDOOR STORAGE, OUTDOOR STORAGE.

SO A PLACE WHERE YOU WOULD PARK YOUR BOAT OR A TRAILER OR WHATEVER, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH OF THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS HERE.

BUT IT DOES EXIST.

IT DOES. BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING THAT NEEDS TO BE AN ONSITE PERSON.

WELL, I'M NOT AN ONSITE PERSON.

SO, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A STRUCTURE.

AND IN THIS IN MOST OF THESE INSTANCES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STRUCTURE AND A BATHROOM.

SO, I'M KIND OF ON THE, SO I'M ON THE BUBBLE ON THAT ONE A PARKING LOT I CAN SEE THAT ONE RAIL YARD THE RECREATION OUTDOOR THAT I WILL AGREE WITH STAFF.

THAT'S A PRETTY BROAD BASED ONE.

SO THAT ONE I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT.

STAN. I'M GOING TO RUN THE AIRCRAFT HANGAR DEAL PAST YOU.

YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN SEE I COULD SEE MAYBE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE HANGAR WHERE POSSIBLY WOULD NEED. I MEAN, THEY'RE BUILDING A BUILDING ANYWAYS.

WELL, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT IS CORRECT IN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT OCCUPIED PER SE, AND AN AIRCRAFT HANGAR IS NOT REALLY AN OCCUPIED BUILDING. IT IS A PLACE WHERE WE STORE THE AIRCRAFT, AND THEN THE AIRCRAFT ARE MOVED OUT TO MAKE USE OF IN THE AIRPORT THERE IS A, THERE IS A RESTROOM. AND IN SEVERAL OTHER OF THE LARGER HANGARS, THEY HAVE RESTROOMS. SO YOU LOOK AT TRYING TO AND I CONTRACTOR HERE CAN CONFIRM IT.

IF I KNOW THREE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DECIDED NOT TO BUILD HANGARS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A RESTROOM AND THE COST AND HAVING A LIFT STATION, THE MINIMUM YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A LIFT STATION, OR ELSE A STORAGE BOX, YOU KNOW, FOR WASTE STORAGE.

SO, IT'S A PROHIBITIVE COST WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE THEY COULD GO UP TO THEIR LAND AND BUILD AND THEN GIVE THEIR TAX MONEY TO PERRY LAND.

SO, IT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

AND AND ALSO ON YOUR POINT ON THE OUTDOOR STORAGE, AGAIN, A LOT OF GENTLEMEN I KNOW UP NORTH WHERE I STORE SOMETHING, YOU CALL THEM UP, THEY COME OUT THERE, THEY OPEN IT UP AND THEY SAY, YOU PARK THERE, GIVE ME YOUR MONEY AND THEY GO.

AWAY, SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A NEED FOR A PERMANENT PERSONAL PRESENCE.

SO, DOES IT REALLY? DOES IT REALLY? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO GIVE THE OPTION.

AND OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE A RECREATION OUTDOOR PLACE AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, MORE THAN LIKELY YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF SERVICE THAT WAY.

SO I THINK, I THINK JUST AT LEAST WE'RE PROVIDING A FREEDOM FOR FOR MORE THINGS TO BE BUILT AND MORE THINGS TO HAPPEN THAN JUST THAN HAVING TO ADD THAT ADDITIONAL COST OF A RESTROOM.

CURIOUS THAT PEARLAND EXAMPLE DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BATHROOM IN PEARLAND? NO, NO. OKAY, BUT THE ALARM.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YES, MA'AM.

AS WE TALK ABOUT NOT HAVING PERMANENT STRUCTURES FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE, THE THING THAT RUNS THROUGH MY MIND IS WINDSTORM CONCERNS DURING A HURRICANE WITH OUTDOOR STORAGE THAT'S NOT SECURED.

SO WOULD THAT POSSIBLY BE WHY THERE'S A REQUIREMENT? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE BATHROOM PART, BUT WOULD THAT POSSIBLY BE A REQUIREMENT WHY IT WAS INITIATED TO BEGIN WITH THAT, THAT THAT IF WE HAVE

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THAT WOULD HAVE WELL, THEN IT WOULDN'T BE STORM CODE THEN.

YEAH, THEN THAT'S NOT OUTDOOR STORAGE.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF STORAGE. YEAH, THAT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF STORAGE.

AND WE HAVE OUTDOOR STORAGES ALL UP AND DOWN STEWART ROAD AND 3005 THAT ARE JUST I DON'T THINK ANYBODY MONITORS THEM.

I MEAN, NOT MONITORING THEM, BUT THERE'S NOBODY ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

AND I JUST, I LIKE KIND OF HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE LIBERTARIAN KIND OF OUTLOOK ON LETTING THESE PEOPLE DO THINGS THAT WITHOUT HAVING SO MANY RESTRICTIVE REQUIREMENTS FOR, FOR SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE.

SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF LET'S JUST INCLUDE A FEW MORE THINGS THAT THAT DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE STEPS TO MAKE A PERSON'S PROJECT COMPLETE.

WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT HERE, THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN BUILD AN AIRPLANE HANGAR IS AT THE AIRPORT, RIGHT? AND THERE IS A RESTROOM THERE.

SO. YES, EXACTLY.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A PRIVATE AIRFIELD SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE A GUY COULD GO DO THAT.

SO, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TOLD THE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE TOLD THEM THEY COULD NOT WITHOUT A BATHROOM.

THAT AFFECTS THE CITY TOO, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS TROUBLE BUILDING HANGARS OUT THERE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THESE REGULATIONS AS WELL.

AND THERE ARE. HOW MANY HANGARS DID THE CITY BUILD? ZERO. IN THE IN THE DISCUSSION.

WHAT ABOUT PARKING GARAGES? SO, WHEN I SEE PARKING STRUCTURE, I THINK OF BIG PARKING GARAGES.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A RESTROOM AT EVERY PARKING GARAGE I'VE EVER BEEN TO.

IS THERE ONE? ANY? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS.

WELL, LIKE, LOOK AT THE NEW.

I GUESS THE MOST RECENT ONE WOULD BE THE AMERICAN NATIONAL.

THERE'S NOT NO PARKING, NO RESTROOM.

AND SO, IT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A RESTROOM AT A PARKING GARAGE.

CURRENTLY. YES.

NOTHING IS EXEMPTED FROM THESE TWO REQUIREMENTS.

SO, I GUESS I WOULD ASK, HOW DID THESE PARKING GARAGES GET BUILT WITHOUT IT? THEY MUST HAVE. THEY MAY HAVE ONE AND IT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC USE.

OH. WE HAVE A RESTROOM, BUT IT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC.

THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, I DON'T KNOW.

AND LIKE KIOSKS AND ATMS, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A RESTROOM.

TECHNICALLY MOST OF.

YEAH. WELL, BUT GO AHEAD.

NO, GO BACK TO THE TO.

I DON'T RECALL ANY OF THAT IN THE PLANS FOR THE SHRINE BURNS PARKING STRUCTURE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IF THAT IT MIGHT BE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS WERE ANCILLARY TO THE OTHER ONE.

SO, THEY HAD RESTROOMS THERE SO I COULD SEE WHERE THEY PROBABLY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST OF THE RESTROOM COMPLIANT ONES.

YOUR OUTDOOR STORAGE ONE ISN'T ON HERE FOR RESTROOMS. IT INCLUDES ALL THOSE USES THAT ARE EXEMPTED FROM HAVING A PERMANENT BUILDING AND THEN ADDITIONAL USES. OH, SO THESE ARE IN ADDITION TO THE ONES ABOVE.

RIGHT. SO THE ONES EXEMPTED FROM THE PERMANENT BUILDING ARE ALSO INCLUDED AS BEING EXEMPTED FROM THE RESTROOM.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS SUGGESTED A COUPLE OF OTHERS, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND.

Y'ALL WANT TO KIND OF GO DOWN THIS.

WE'LL START AT THE TOP I WAS DOWN I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.

SO AGRICULTURAL URBAN FARMING.

RESTROOM. BATHROOM. I'M STARTING AT THE RESTROOMS FIRST.

WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CURRENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? CATHERINE, CAN WE GET THE RECOMMENDATION? YEAH. BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

CURRENT. THIS ONE? OH. THE NEXT. THIS SIDE IS THE NEXT.

NEXT. YES, YES.

AH. OKAY.

OKAY, OKAY. Y'ALL HAVE DONE ALL THIS HARD WORK.

YEAH, WE DID THE HARD WORK, RIGHT? TRUSTEE. THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR YOU.

I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT YOU HAD DONE IT FOR US.

THE STAFF AGREES WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL.

WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING AGRICULTURE.

URBAN FARMING, COMMUNITY GARDEN, OUTDOOR STORAGE, PARKING LOT.

COMMERCIAL SURFACE PARKING AREA.

HELISTOP AND RAIL YARD.

BE EXEMPTED FROM HAVING A PERMANENT BUILDING AND ALSO RESTROOMS. OH, OKAY. OKAY, SO WE'RE AGREEING WITH EVERYTHING FROM THE APPLICANT EXCEPT FOR CEMETERY AND RECREATION.

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AND THEN SOUNDS GOOD.

IN THE ADDITIONAL YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BUILDING, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A RESTROOM.

THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT STAFF AGREES WITH ARE VENDING KIOSK ATM AND WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITY.

THE APPLICANT WAS PROPOSING A COUPLE OF USES THAT DON'T CORRESPOND DIRECTLY WITH USES IN THE TABLE.

THE LAND USE TABLE.

AND THAT'S AIRCRAFT HANGARS.

THAT'S NOT A STANDALONE USE.

IT'S JUST INCLUDED UNDER AIRPORT AUTO CHARGING STATIONS, NOT STANDALONE.

THAT'S INCLUDED IN GAS STATION AND PARKING STRUCTURE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF PARKING STRUCTURES, SO THAT'S WHY STAFF ISN'T RECOMMENDING THOSE ITEMS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T DIRECTLY CORRELATE TO EXISTING LAND USES.

OKAY. SO IF WE WANTED TO EXEMPT AIRCRAFT HANGARS, CHARGING STATIONS, PARKING STRUCTURES, WE WOULD NEED TO ADD THAT TO THE LANGUAGE. RIGHT? WE'D HAVE TO YOU'D HAVE WE'D HAVE TO THEN DO A WHOLE NEW CASE THAT WOULD ADD THEM INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AS LAND USES WITH DEFINITIONS AND IN THE TABLE AND LOCATIONS WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED.

AND THEN WE COULD EXEMPT THEM.

OKAY. SO THOSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THEY'RE NOT IN THE DEFINITIONS OF LAND USE.

RIGHT. SO WE OKAY.

SO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO WE GOT TO CIRCLE BACK AND GET THE DEFINITIONS PUT IN PLACE TO GIVE THIS THIS KIND OF EXEMPTION.

YEAH. TO EXEMPT SOMETHING IT HAS TO BE LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT HAS TO BE IN THE TABLE IN THE LAND USE TABLE.

AND THESE, THESE TERMINOLOGIES THAT THE APPLICANTS USED, THEY DON'T CORRESPOND.

WE DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THAT LAND USE OKAY.

OH, SO WE DON'T HAVE WE'VE GOT TO DO AN ADDITION TO THE DEFINITIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE AN AIRCRAFT HANGAR.

THERE'S NO LAND USE RIGHT.

OR PARKING STRUCTURE HUH.

NO, NO. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF PARKING STRUCTURES.

SO YEAH, PARKING STRUCTURE GETS MORE WELL-DEFINED, MORE DETAILED.

SO VENDING ATM, WIRELESS THOSE TWO WE HAVE OKAY.

THOSE CORRESPOND.

YEAH I REMEMBER SEEING WIRELESS REMEMBER VENDING.

SO HELP ME OUT HERE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT HERE'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

THE CONSENSUS IS.

AND YOU GUYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AIRCRAFT HANGARS EXEMPTED AND THE CHARGING STATIONS EXEMPTED AND THE PARKING STRUCTURE EXEMPTED.

YOU HAVE INCLUDED THE VENDING AND THE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS.

CORRECT. SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? YOU WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS CASE.

AND THEN I THINK YOU WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO MAKE THE ASSOCIATED REQUIRED CHANGES TO THE LDR THAT WOULD RESULT IN EXEMPTIONS FOR THOSE. OKAY.

THE QUESTION BECOMES DO DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS AS TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS OR JUST PACKAGE IT TOGETHER? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WELL REALLY THREE SEPARATE ACTIONS.

YOU KNOW, DO IT ALL AT ONCE OR OR DO IT IN STAGES LIKE THIS.

AND TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE, WE WOULD DEFER THIS AND HAVE YOU BRING IT BACK WITH I MOVE THAT WE DEFER 20 3-004 UNTIL WE CAN COMPILE AND COMPRESS AND CONDENSE THE QUESTION IN MANNER OR THE QUESTION AT HAND.

OKAY, JUST ONE SECOND.

YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

YEAH. WE DO NEED TO CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

CORRECT. I THOUGHT WE DID.

UNLESS SIR. YES, SIR.

PLEASE COME BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY.

AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME.

DEFERRING DOESN'T HELP YOUR CLIENT TODAY.

HE'S ALREADY SPENT HIS MONEY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT DEFERRING MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT I'M KIND OF A MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, I VISITED WITH CATHERINE ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT, AND WE'RE OF A LIKE MIND WITH RESPECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD REQUEST INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU'RE INSTEAD OF DEFERRING IT WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT.

AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO SOME MORE INVESTIGATION INTO LAND USES OR BUILDING TYPES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MAY NOT REQUIRE PERMANENT STRUCTURES OR RESTROOMS, THAT THEY GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AS SOMETHING INDEPENDENT.

THEY COME BACK WITH CHANGES TO THE ELDERS PERIODICALLY ANYWAY, SO IT WOULDN'T BE COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.

OKAY, LET ME ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK.

HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU GUYS TO GET THIS BACK IN FRONT OF US? LET'S SEE. SO THE NEXT MEETING IS.

ON NOVEMBER 7TH, SO STAFF REPORTS ARE DUE FOR THAT NEXT WEEK.

I THINK WE COULD DO IT FOR THE SEVENTH.

WOULD THAT WORK FOR YOU THAT WAY? WE WE JUST WANT TO BE A ONE AND DONE.

SO I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

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SO. OR IF IT DOESN'T, THAT TIME FRAME DOESN'T WORK AND WE NEED TO KICK IT BACK TO DECEMBER.

DOES THAT STILL WORK FOR YOU? I PRESUME THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY.

SO THE APPLICANT IS SAYING HE'S HAPPY WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS? NO, WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE. WELL, YOU'RE NOT SAYING HERE'S, WELL, HERE'S THE THING.

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SO I MEAN, AND I'VE EXPERIENCED THIS BECAUSE I'VE DESIGNED AIRPLANE HANGARS.

IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DO AN AIRPLANE HANGAR BECAUSE THE AIRPLANE HAS TO SIT ON THE GROUND SO IT CAN GET IN AND OUT, BUT A RESTROOM HAS TO BE 12FT UP IN THE AIR, SO IT DOESN'T FLOOD AND HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT I MEAN, IT JUST IT BECOMES A GREAT BIG TAIL THAT WAGS THE, THE DOG.

BUT CATHERINE'S CORRECT.

THERE'S NOT THIS IS NOT A LAND USE PER SE.

YOU CAN'T EXEMPT A LAND USE THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, AND NOT BEING A PLANNER, BEING AN ARCHITECT INSTEAD, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE DISTINCTIONS GET LOST ON ME A LITTLE BIT.

SO BUT IT'S HOWEVER YOU ALL WANT TO DO IT IS IS FINE.

BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER THINGS.

IT'S NOT EASY BEING A BOY SCOUT, JUST LIKE I SAID, JUST, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME ALONG LATER AND YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.

WANT TO BUILD AN AIRPLANE HANGAR? WE'D LIKE TO HELP MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT HAS TO SAY.

RIGHT. SO AND I APPRECIATE THAT MY SON'S AN EAGLE SCOUT.

THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE I'M AN EAGLE SCOUT.

YOU. THAT IS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

MY MOTHER WOULD SAY MY ONLY CONCERN WITH ANY UNDERSTAND THE NOT PIECEMEALING IT.

EXCEPT THAT.

WE HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT'S MADE A REQUEST, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEFERRED ONCE FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINESS ISSUE WITH SO MANY OTHER CASES AND TO.

COME BACK NEXT WEEK I THINK WOULD BE OKAY.

BUT I THINK TO PUSH YOU BACK EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT, HE IS ALREADY, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE OUTDOOR STORAGE BUT DISCOVERING OTHER GENUS AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE AS IF THAT OUTDOOR STORAGE IS NOT GOING TO BE STAFF IS OKAY WITH THAT.

SO AND IF IT'S A MATTER OF DOING ANOTHER ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE DO IT QUITE FREQUENTLY.

SO I WOULD RATHER ACCOMMODATE THE APPLICANT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SINCE THEY YOU HAVE PAID MONEY, RIGHT? YES, WE PAID MUCH, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS LIKE THAT SITUATION THAT MAY ACTUALLY TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THE LAND USES. ET CETERA.

ET CETERA. THEN, YOU KNOW, GIVE US A LITTLE GIVE STAFF A LITTLE TIME TO RIGHT.

SO MAKE IT RIGHT BUT ALSO ACCOMMODATE THE APPLICANT.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD APPROVE HIS REQUEST IF, I MEAN, IF WE WERE GOING TO APPROVE HIS REQUEST AS IT IS, THEN WE COME BACK SEPARATE AND TO THIS ISSUE, WE COME BACK AND ADDRESS THE LDR ISSUE AND ETCETERA.

WELL, SO HIS REQUEST IS THESE CHANGES, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION, BUT HE MENTIONS THESE WAY YOU WANT IT TO.

AND SO, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THESE TWO EXAMPLES.

YOU HAVE WHAT HE'S REQUESTED AND YOU HAVE WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED BASED ON THE LAND USES AREN'T THERE TO ACCEPT.

SO JUST LOOK AT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND MAKE A MOTION BASED ON THAT.

IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT TODAY, DONNA CAN CAN CAN THEY APPROVE WHAT HE IS REQUESTED AND COME UP WITH THE DEFINITIONS FOR THOSE LAND USES IN THAT APPROVAL? NO, NO, NO, NOT TODAY.

BUT BRING THOSE BACK OR GO AHEAD.

AND WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M SAYING, IS THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST 2 OR 3 ITEMS THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION FOR THAT WE WOULD THAT STAFF WOULD NEED TO RESEARCH IT, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING THOSE DEFINITIONS BACK TO PLANNING.

YEAH, OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T EXIST.

YEAH I KNOW, I KNOW.

YEAH. THAT COMES TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF.

SOMETIMES YOU ACCEPT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OR WHATEVER.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, I JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

WELL STAFF, WE'VE ALL HEARD AND MR. GARTNER IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

COMES TO OUR OFFICES QUITE REGULARLY.

YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW BUT IT WILL TO ME AND STAFF CAN DISAGREE OR SAY IT'S NOT REALLY AN ISSUE.

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SO I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO BE COGNIZANT THAT HE'S ALREADY BEEN DEFERRED ONCE.

SO MY THOUGHTS, MY THOUGHTS ARE I'VE STOOD THERE THE LAST THING.

HE'S BEING VERY ACCOMMODATING BY SAYING, YEAH, I CAN WAIT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS IF WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US WORKS FOR HIM.

HE'S GIVEN US SOME GREAT IDEAS AND A COUPLE OF THINGS WE NEED TO FIX.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE LET'S ROLL WITH WHAT WE GOT.

WE DO NEED TO FIX OUR HANGER SITUATION AND WE'LL GET SEE THAT BACK AGAIN.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN FRONT OF US TODAY WITH A HANGER.

AND IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY, WELL, IF THE CITY IS I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO FIX THEIR PROBLEM.

YEAH. AND SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT IT TO GET FORGOTTEN ABOUT.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, THIS A SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD.

I MEAN, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE SUPER BUSY AND Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE WORK FOR YOURSELF.

SO, I'D LIKE TO IN THAT MOTION, I'D LIKE TO PUT ON PUT A DATE ON WHEN THAT WOULD COME BACK TO US.

OKAY. ON THE MOTION AND WE'LL GET GOING, IF I MAY.

THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE WHATEVER IT IS TO EITHER GO WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OR NOT.

BUT AT THE END OF THIS MEETING, THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE FOR THE NEXT MEETING? CAN WE NOT PUT THAT IN THE MOTION SEPARATE? THAT'D BE SEPARATE, RIGHT? NO, NO.

OKAY. SO WHY WHY COULD WE NOT PUT IT IN THE MOTION? BECAUSE YOU'RE ORDERING STAFF TO DO RESEARCH AND YOU'RE ORDERING THE COMMISSION TO DO RESEARCH, NOT THE APPLICANT.

IT'S THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

I KNOW, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S THEIR TESTING.

WELL, IT'S OUR TEXT AMENDMENT.

WE ARE GOING TO PUT THIS IN IN PRACTICE, BUT IT WOULD GO IN THE LDR.

YES. YEAH.

ARE YOU GOING TO PUT AND STAFF IS TO BRING THIS BACK ON NOVEMBER.

I'M BEING A LITTLE.

OKAY. WHAT IF WE CAN OFFER A SUGGESTION.

EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

COUNCILMAN. BUT I THINK THE MOTION HAS TO BE A CLEAN MOTION.

AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO BRING THIS BACK, IT, YOU CAN PICK ANOTHER.

AT THE VERY LEAST, WE'LL HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK TO US A SECOND MOTION.

YEAH. YEAH. AS A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS. WOULD IT BE A DISCUSSION ITEM? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY, SO VOTE ON THIS NOW THEN WE'RE GOING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THIS TO OUR AGENDA.

AND WHENEVER CATHERINE WILL GIVE US A GOOD DATE FOR THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING WITH IT WAS NEVER A SECOND NEVER A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. SO I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

23 ZA DASH 004 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

2023 ZA DASH 004A PASSES.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT, SO, LET'S SEE HERE.

SO, NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND CAN WE, CAN WE ADD THIS NOW, THIS MOTION NOW THAT WE WANT TO ADD THIS.

YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT HE WAS GETTING READY TO DO.

YEAH. YEAH. WELL I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN MY SMALL BRAIN WITH MY LITTLE TURTLE HEAD COMING OUT OF THIS MUD AND QUAGMIRE WE STARTED.

HOW DO WE HOW TO.

SO I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AS STAFF TO REVISIT AND BRING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO HANDLE THESE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED.

I WILL NOT NAME THEM ALL, BUT THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED FOR PROPOSAL ON ADDITIONAL EXEMPTIONS BE TAKEN TO EXHIBIT A EXHIBIT A OKAY.

AND IT'S JUST THOSE THREE AIRCRAFT HANGARS, CHARGING STATION AND PARKING STRUCTURE.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S JUST THOSE THREE.

OKAY, OKAY.

SO, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING US RECOMMENDATIONS OF CHANGES TO THE LDR TO INCLUDE AIRCRAFT HANGARS, AUTO CHARGING STATIONS AND PARKING STRUCTURES.

SECOND. AND SECOND.

SECOND. AND SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. THOSE IN FAVOR? THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

ALL RIGHT. NOW MOVING ABOUT, YOU GUYS.

WHAT'S THAT? WE WILL NOT FORGET ABOUT.

OH, TIM, LET ME JUST TELL YOU, WE ALL KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT NOW.

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STAFF WILL PROVIDE THAT FOR THE DECEMBER 5TH MEETING.

OKAY. DECEMBER 5TH.

PERFECT. OKAY.

CAN'T WAIT. OKAY.

NOW WE GOT THAT DONE.

DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[8.A. Discussion Of Direction From City Council To The Planning Commission Regarding Permitted Uses And Design Standards For Broadway. (Staff)]

GO AHEAD. YES. SO CITY COUNCIL HAD A DISCUSSION ITEM AT ONE OF THEIR WORKSHOPS ABOUT PERMITTED USES AND DESIGN STANDARDS ALONG BROADWAY, AND HAVE HAVE ASKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK INTO THAT TOPIC.

SO I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A LENGTHY MEETING TODAY.

I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION COUNCIL WANTS US TO WORK ON.

KARINA IS GOING TO PASS OUT THE EXISTING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR BROADWAY SO THAT YOU CAN START TO LOOK AT IT.

AND THEN I SUPPOSE I WILL GET WITH THE CHAIR AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT A SCHEDULE FOR FOR STARTING TO DO THIS WORK.

AND REALLY IT'S THE SAME FOR THE VAPE STORES.

DISCUSSION. THE VAPE STORES WAS BROUGHT UP BY ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS BEING A LAND USE THAT WE'RE SEEING A PROLIFERATION OF, AND LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF REGULATING THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES.

SO DANIEL HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH ON HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES REGULATE VAPE STORES, AND THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT SPREADSHEET.

SO HE'S LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING.

SO AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THE TOPIC TODAY.

AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON A SCHEDULE.

AND IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER THIS IS JUST THE VAPING.

YEAH, THE BROADWAY IS THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

YEAH. AND MAYBE THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS SOMETHING ANYTHING TO ADD.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY SEE THIS WORKSHOP TYPE STUFF.

YES. IT'LL BE THINGS THAT WE WORK ON IN A WORKSHOP TRY TO LIMIT TO LIKE 13 MEETINGS.

OKAY, 13 WORKSHOP MEETINGS, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T INVOLVE A FOOD TRUCK.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I'LL JUST BRIEFLY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE I GOT TO BRING MY DAUGHTER TO SOCCER PRACTICE HERE IN A MINUTE.

BUT WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT BROADWAY AND THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT BROADWAY, IT IS A VERY LONG STRETCH OF ROADWAY.

THERE'S DIFFERENT AREAS THROUGHOUT BROADWAY.

YOU START IN A VERY COMMERCIAL.

YOU START IN THE ENTRY OF GALVESTON.

YOU COME TO SOME COMMERCIAL AREAS.

IT MOVES ON TO MORE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ON THE EAST END.

AND SO, A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEES HAVE LOOKED AT BROADWAY IN THE PAST AND SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON IT, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S QUITE RIGHT YET.

AND SO, AS COUNCIL DISCUSSED, WE'D LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION, LET Y'ALL LOOK OVER IT, SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT WOULD BENEFIT GALVESTON AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.

OKAY. JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VAPE SHOP.

[8.B. Discussion Of Direction From City Council To The Planning Commission Regarding Possible Regulations Regarding Vape Shops Island-Wide. (Staff)]

THERE WAS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THAT WAS REALLY ADAMANT ABOUT TRYING TO LIMIT VAPE SHOPS AROUND TOWN.

SO, WE CAN LOOK AT WAYS TO DO THAT.

IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE TOUGH TO DO THAT, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME WAYS AROUND THAT.

WHAT WHAT'S THE CURRENT? IS IT JUST NOTHING.

IT'S JUST A PERMITTED USE IN IN CERTAIN ZONING CATEGORIES.

RIGHT. WE CLASSIFY IT AS RETAIL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS A VERY BROAD CATEGORY AND IS ALLOWED IN ALMOST ALL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.

OKAY. WITH REGARD TO THE BROADWAY.

DISCUSSION IS THERE ONLINE? IS THERE AN EXISTING BROADWAY BEAUTIFICATION OR PLAN THAT'S ONLINE.

SO WHAT EXISTS CURRENTLY ARE THE STANDARDS THAT ARE THERE AND THEY'RE KEPT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

YES OKAY. AND I'LL TELL YOU A COUPLE THINGS THAT PERSONALLY I HAVE SEEN COME OUT OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT HAVE HAD SOME QUESTIONABLE OUTCOMES.

THE DOMINO'S PIZZA, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT.

SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT, SOME PEOPLE HATE IT.

THE JACK IN THE BOX, IN MY OPINION, IS A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DESIGN.

AND IT IS.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST HIDEOUS.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE MCDONALD'S WAS THE MCDONALD'S WASN'T PART KNOW.

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IT PREDATES IT. THE NEW MCDONALD'S.

YEAH. YEAH.

THAT MCDONALD'S WAS BUILT AFTER IKE.

PROBABLY 2010.

YEAH. WHEN WAS THE JACK IN THE BOX BUILT? JACK IN THE BOX WAS 2000.

OH, IT WAS AFTER IKE. THAT WAS AFTER IKE.

JACK IN THE BOX WAS BUILT AFTER IKE.

FOR SURE. YEAH, BUT LATER ON IT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF ON IF THESE DESIGN STANDARDS WERE IN PLACE WHEN THE JACK IN THE BOX WAS BUILT.

I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.

MAYBE BECAUSE IT WAS A PUD, IT WAS A PUD, BUT THE PUD WAS FOR THE ACCESS TO BROADWAY, SO I DON'T KNOW, MAN.

JACK IN THE BOX IS JUST TERRIBLE.

THE THE DOMINO'S WAS DEFINITELY BUILT UNDER THE EXISTING STANDARDS THAT I KNOW FOR SURE.

AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK MAKE IT TERRIBLE IS THAT WE TRY TO MAKE BROADWAY THIS, THIS WALKABLE ROADWAY, AND IT'S A SIX LANE HIGHWAY.

AND SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE DESIGN CRITERIA IS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BECAUSE I MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT THEY WEREN'T PARKING IN THE BACK.

THE DOMINO'S, THEY WEREN'T.

THE DESIGN STANDARD WAS PARKING IN THE IN THE REAR OF THE OF THE STRUCTURE.

RIGHT? YES.

WAS WAS THE JACK IN THE BOX LIKE THAT? I CAN'T REMEMBER. OKAY, SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT JUST MAKES IT AWFUL.

YOU LOOK AT THE TACO BELL AND IT ACTUALLY LOOKS NICE.

I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, THE TACO BELL LOOKS REALLY NICE.

IT'S SET OFF THE ROAD.

IT'S GOT NICE LANDSCAPING, THE PARKING LOTS IN THE FRONT, BUT IT LOOKS FINE TO ME.

BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THE JACK IN THE BOX IN THE, IN THE MCDONALD'S THAT ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN GET TO THE ROAD WITH ACCOMMODATING THE DRIVE THROUGH. AND, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS TO ME IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.

NO LANDSCAPING REALLY VERY LITTLE.

AND PERHAPS THAT'S REALLY PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS USES THAT HAVE DRIVE-THRUS ARE CLEARLY DIFFERENT THAN YOU KNOW, USES THAT DON'T.

YEAH. MAYBE SO. ABSOLUTELY.

SO, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT JUST IN MY, IN MY VIEW, MAKE BROADWAY LOOK BAD.

SO Y'ALL CAN, YOU KNOW, MULL THAT OVER AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. ALONG THOSE LINES, IF YOU HAVE A, A PROPERTY OWNER ON BROADWAY WHO HAS AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT WE SAY IS A JACK IN THE BOX KIND OF BUILDING THAT IS NOT VERY DESIRABLE OR A BUILDING THAT PREDATES THE REGULATIONS.

AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THEY WANT TO COME IN AND PUT IN SOMETHING NEW IN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT.

AND THEN WE START LOOKING AT ADDING THESE THINGS.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN ON THEIR PREVIOUS BUILDING? IN OTHER WORDS, WILL THEY BE GRANDFATHERED STIPULATIONS FOR SOMEBODY WANTING TO DO SOMETHING ON THAT SAME FOOTPRINT WITH MAYBE A DIFFERENT DESIGN THAN IS APPROVED IN THE REGS? AND I WOULD ASK YEAH TYPICALLY, YES.

BUT I THINK THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF REGULATIONS AND USES THAT I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, NOT TO PICK ON JACK IN THE BOX, BUT I JUST REMEMBER THERE WAS SO MUCH KICKBACK THROUGH AND AROUND THAT DESIGN.

PART OF ME WANTS TO SAY THAT THEY WERE LIMITED AS TO WHAT THEY COULD DO, AND THIS WAS ALMOST THE BEST TYPE OF WORK THROUGH IT, THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT WAS PROHIBITED IN SOME WAY OR FORM.

NO, I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT THEY OUR REGULATIONS KIND OF FORCED THEM TO BUILD WHAT THEY BUILT.

SO, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED.

AND WAS THERE A TIMEFRAME THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WERE GIVEN? NO, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT A TIMEFRAME.

SO, SOONER THE BETTER, BECAUSE ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IS THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE ON 25TH AND BROADWAY, I BELIEVE THEY DON'T HAVE PERMITTING RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE'S NO, NO, NO VESTED RIGHTS ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND SO THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING THAT A CAR WASH WAS GOING THERE.

AND THAT'S SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT A CAR WASH GOING RIGHT THERE AT 25TH AND BROADWAY, YOU KNOW.

AND SO, THERE'S ALSO A LARGE STRETCH OF UNDEVELOPED LAND AT THE BEGINNING OF BROADWAY.

AND SO BEFORE THAT GETS DEVELOPED, WE WOULD LIKE SOME REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO KIND OF DICTATE WHAT GOES THERE.

FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT.

A COUPLE OF FINAL THINGS I DID NOT.

JOHN, I AM SO SORRY, BUT WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER, JOHN LIGHTFOOT.

YOU WANT TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF, JOHN? I'LL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

BUT I'M SO SORRY I DID NOT INTRODUCE YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING, BUT.

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I DID MISS MY FIRST MEETING OFF TO A ROCKY START THERE, BUT WE HAD A TRIP PLANNED, AND SO IT WAS.

THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE AT THE TIMING, BUT HAPPY TO BE HERE.

I'VE GOT A DEVELOPMENT BACKGROUND, I'VE DONE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS AND THAT KIND OF WOUND DOWN TO A CLOSE IN 2008, AND I SHIFTED TO CONSTRUCTION, SINCE I STILL OWNED A BUNCH OF LOTS AND DECIDED I MIGHT AS WELL BUILD THOSE OUT MYSELF.

AND SO DID THAT.

AND NOW I'VE WOUND THAT DOWN AND JUST FINISHED MY LAST HOUSE IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, IN FACT, AND FOR MY SISTER, A BEACHFRONT PROPERTY THAT I BUILT.

AND SO I'M HAPPY TO, TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I'M TOTALLY COMMITTED TO GALVESTON.

I'M A BOY, BUT NOT BORN ON THE ISLAND.

I'M BORN OFF THE ISLAND.

SO THAT'S STILL BOY.

BUT I'M A BIG SEA, WHICH IS BORN IN GALVESTON COUNTY.

SO, I'M CLOSE, BUT MY HEART IS DEFINITELY HERE.

RETIRED HERE FIVE YEARS AGO AND JUST LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING A CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY.

WELL THANK YOU, JOHN, AND WELCOME.

ONE LAST ITEM.

WE DID NOT HAVE MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES OF MINUTES TO APPROVE AT THE NEXT MEETING, ANY OTHER BUSINESS.

THEN WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.