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[00:00:02]

>> LOOKING AT MY WATCH.

>> IT'S 2:30, WE WILL CALL THIS WORKSHOP SESSION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.

[1. Call Meeting To Order]

DO YOU HAVE THE AGENDA?

>> I DO HAVE [OVERLAPPING].

>> ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS? [BACKGROUND] I'LL GET RIGHT BACK TO YOU.

[BACKGROUND] WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LETTER.

THERE'S NO CORN REQUIRED FOR OUR WORKSHOP, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISION.

>> OKAY.

>> ALWAYS ON ONE PERSON.

>> ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM, 23 PA-009,

[4.A. 23PA-009 Text Amendment To Chapter 29 “Planning – Beach Access Dune Protection And Beach Front Construction” Of The Code Of The City Of Galveston To Modify Beach Access At Access Points (AP) 2, 3, 8, 9, 12, And 13 For Beach Access Compliance.]

WHICH IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE BEACH ACCESS, DUNE PROTECTION, AND BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION.

SO IS THAT YOU KYLE.

>> YES SIR.

>> THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL. [BACKGROUND]

>> WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TODAY WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER SOME CHANGES THAT WILL BE TAKEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR BEACH PROTECTION AND BEACH ACCESS PLAN.

THESE CHANGES ARE CHANGES THAT BASICALLY HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.

IN 2019, CATHERINE AND PREVIOUS COASTAL RESOURCES MANAGEMENT TEAM STARTED WORKING WITH GLO TO ADDRESS SOME OF ISSUES WITH PARKING FOR OUR BEACH ACCESS THAT HAD BEEN IMPACTED FROM STORMS AND JUST WASN'T BEING REPORTED CORRECTLY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SINCE ABOUT 2020, THOSE WORK THAT WAS DONE ON ADDRESSING THESE AREAS AND THESE ISSUES.

WE RECEIVED WORD IN FEBRUARY THAT WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKING.

THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE SIGNAGE, MISSING SIGNS AND PART OF THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE REQUIRES THAT ANYTHING FOR BEACH ACCESS IS CONSPICUOUSLY SIGNED, SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO DO.

THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH SIGNS MISSING, SO TIM DEVELOPED A MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING NOW AND REPORTING UP TO GLO EVERY QUARTER ON OUR SIGN INVENTORY AND INSPECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING OVER TODAY IS THE PARKING CHANGES THAT WERE DECIDED ON BETWEEN THE GLO AND THE CITY OF GALVESTON TO BRING US BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIRED PARKING FOR AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE DRIVE-ON BEACH ACCESS.

ALSO, SOME AREAS FOR THE RESTRICTED USE AREA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO CHANGE IT UP FOR ONE OF THE OTHER PREVIOUS AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAD SUBMITTED AND TIM IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THOSE AFTER I GO THROUGH THESE.

AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, FEEL FREE TO ASK A QUESTION OF HOW THEY GOT TO THE TERMINATION, WHAT IT MAY MEAN, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THERE IS ONE THING BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THIS, I BELIEVE TWO WEEKS AGO, WE DID RECEIVE A COMMENT FOR THIS AMENDMENT CHANGE BEFORE WE PULLED IT FROM THE PUBLIC.

THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT MOVING SOME OF THE PARKING AROUND IF WE HAD A SURPLUS IN ONE AREA AND USING THAT TO TAKE CARE OF PARKING THAT WAS DEFICIENT IN ANOTHER AREA.

2019 WHEN THE BEACH AD-HOC COMMITTEE LOOKED AT THIS, THAT IS DIRECTION THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM GLO.

BUT THE DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM GLO GOING THROUGH TO BE BROUGHT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE, AND THE FINAL DETERMINATION, THAT WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE, THEY SAID WE COULD DO THAT.

JUST LETTING EVERYONE KNOW THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE RECEIVED IN 2019, BUT SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WORKING THROUGH THIS, THEY TOLD US THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.

>> THIS IS OKAY?

>> YES, MUM. THEY TOLD US THAT WE COULD LIKE I SAID, THE COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED TWO WEEKS AGO, THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY HAD IN THEIR HIGHLIGHTED WITH GLO SAY, WE COULDN'T DO THAT, BUT THEY [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS THAT WITHIN ONE ACCESS POINT, OR IT CAN CROSSOVER FROM ONE TO ANOTHER?

>> YEAH, IT CAN CROSSOVER FROM ONE TO ANOTHER, AND WE'LL GO OVER ONE OF THOSE HERE.

IN RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH TIM AND I HAVE HAD WITH GLO, THEY ARE STILL THE SAME THING THAT IF YOU HAVE A SURPLUS IN ONE AREA AND YOU'RE DEFICIENT IN ANOTHER, THEN THAT CAN BE USED TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ENTIRE GALVESTON ISLAND WITHIN

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A REASON THAT CAN HAVE IT ON ST. LOUIS PASS AND DOING IT ON EAST BEACH.

THEY SAID THAT'S NOT REASONABLE, BUT IN A REASONABLE AREA, THEY SAY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE I KNEW THAT WE'D RECEIVED THAT COMMENT TWO WEEKS AGO.

>> I THINK WE'LL RECEIVE IT AGAIN.

>> YEAH YOU DID, BEFORE YOU START KYLE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THE CONTEXT OF THIS WHOLE COMPLIANCE EFFORT.

THE COMPLIANCE EFFORT BECAME NECESSARY BECAUSE THE GLO BASICALLY ADVISED THAT WE CAN'T AMEND OUR PLAN UNTIL WE HAD COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXISTING PLAN.

NONE OF THE ACTIVITY THAT WAS PROPOSED OR THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED NONE OF THAT COULD BE DONE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE WERE ABLE TO GAIN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN.

THAT'S WHY THAT ASPECT IS SO CRITICAL TO GET IT DONE AND WAS SO CRITICAL AT THE TIME TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

THEN THE OTHER THING IS WHAT KYLE REFERRED TO JUST NOW ABOUT THE ACCESS BEING ABLE TO MOVE LATERALLY.

WE TRY NOT TO DO THAT TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO ONE PARTY TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME OF YOUR ALLOCATED BARGAINING AND COUNT IT TOWARDS SOMETHING ELSE.

WE'VE MINIMIZED THAT PRETTY MUCH AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY ALONG THIS PATH AS WE'VE GONE INTO THE COMPLIANCE EFFORT.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR INTENT IS NOT TO COUNT PARKING SPACES IN ONE AREA AND ALLOCATE IT TO ANOTHER TO THE DEGREE POSSIBLE. WE TRY TO AVOID THAT.

>> QUICKLY, THIS IS TO TRY AND GET OR TO KEEP OUR PLAN IN COMPLIANCE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE CHANGES TO THE PLAN.

WOULD THAT BE A CORRECT STATEMENT?

>> YES AS HARD AS THAT SOUNDS, YES.

>> OKAY.

>> YES.

>> WE ARE CURRENTLY IN COMPLIANCE?

>> WELL, NO, NOT PER ORDINANCE YET.

THAT'S WHAT GOES TO COUNCIL ON THE 26.

WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE GLO STAFF BECAUSE WE BASICALLY GOT THE DEFICIENCIES UP TO SPEED.

BY THE WAY, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY US, IT WAS THE HOAS OUT THERE THAT WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THAT WORK.

THERE WERE SOME DUNE WALKOVERS THAT NEEDED TO BE REBUILT AND OTHER ACCESS ISSUES IN ADDITION TO THE SIGNAGE AND THE PARKING.

IN THAT PARKING, JUST SO YOU HAVE SOME HISTORY, THE PARKING ISSUE WHEN THE PLAN WAS SUBMITTED IN 2004, WAS NOT USING THE STANDARDS AND TOOL IMPLEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PRETTY EXTENSIVE GEOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION SYSTEM, GIS, AND THAT YOU CAN GET VERY SPECIFIC WITH IT AND DETAIL THINGS VERY SPECIFICALLY.

WHEN THE 2004 PLAN SET IN X SUB-DIVISION, WE HAVE X NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

I THINK THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY AN ESTIMATE.

IT WAS ACCEPTED AT THE TIME, BUT WHEN WE LAID THIS OUT IN REALITY AS TO WHERE THOSE AREAS WERE, WE FOUND THE ISSUES AND THAT'S WHAT THEN HAD TO BE RECTIFIED.

>> WELL, THEN THIS PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT WAS DESIGNED TO BRING THE CITY INTO COMPLIANCE.

>> YES.

>> WAIT.

>> THEN CHANGES COULD OCCUR AFTER THAT.

ARE THERE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT THE CITY IS CONSIDERING?

>> YES.

>> OKAY

>> WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE.

GLO ALWAYS SAID THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THE FINAL ADMINISTRATIVE STEP UP BEING PUT OUT ON THE TEXAS REGISTER.

>> OKAY.

>> THAT'S OUR FINAL STEP.

>> YEAH.

>> THE THREE AMENDMENTS THAT WE SENT UP A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE SENT THOSE UP UNDER THE DIRECTION OF GLO.

THEY SAID WHEN TIM AND I WERE WORKING ON BRINGING US BACK INTO COMPLIANCE SAID WE DID NOT HAVE TO SEND THESE AMENDMENT CHANGES UP.

WE CAN SEND THOSE PRE-UP.

ONCE WE GOT IN COMPLIANCE, WE CAN SEND THOSE PRE-UP.

THAT'S WHAT WE DID WELL THEN GLO CAME BACK AND SAID, NO, YOU ALSO HAVE TO SEND THESE UP.

>> OKAY.

>> THAT'S WHAT THEY ALSO SAID WHEN WE MET WITH CITY COUNCIL BACK EARLIER THIS SUMMER.

WE'VE RECEIVED THESE, LIKE I SAID, SEVERAL PROCESSES ANYTIME THAT WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE TO OUR PLAN, WE GO TO THE COMPANY, YOU ALL PRESENT THE CHANGES THAT WE MAKE OR WANT TO MAKE.

NOW THIS IS A NEW PROCESS AND THEN WE WILL GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION.

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WE TAKE TO CITY COUNCIL, THEN WE MAKE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE.

THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE SAYS THE CITY HAS TO MAKE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE BEFORE WE SEND IT UP THERE, SO THE CITY COUNCIL SHOWS THAT THEY GIVE THEIR BLESSING.

IT'S JUST NOT ME, THEY'RE MAKING A CHANGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEN THEY WILL REVIEW AND MAKE SURE IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

THEN THEY PUBLISH IT IN THE TEXAS REGISTER FOR 30 DAYS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THEN THEY AUTHORIZE US TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

WHAT THIS IS, IS CHANGES THAT THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED.

THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, WHICH WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE, WE'RE JUST DOING THAT LAST ADMINISTRATIVE STEP TO GET IT CLOSED OUT AND TO GO FORWARD WITH OUR OTHER THREE AMENDMENTS THAT WE SENT UP EARLIER THIS SUMMER.

>> YEAH. THIS WILL BE THE FORMAL PLAN AMENDMENT.

>> YEAH.

>> WHAT WE STARTED WITH, OF COURSE, WAS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE GLO WAS INFORMAL.

STARTED OUT WITH IT REALLY A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL ALMOST A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO NOW.

THEN ONCE WE GOT THAT DIRECTION, WE VETTED THAT THROUGH GLO AND THAT'S WHERE THEY SAID, HERE'S OUR COMMENTS AND WE STARTED GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS.

>> WHO IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING COMPLIANCE? LIKE THESE BIG THINGS, DEDICATED PATHWAYS OR BEACH WALKOVERS.

>> WELL, THE SUBDIVISION THAT REQUESTED THAT PORTION OF THE BEACH BE CLOSED IN FRONT OF THEM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE MITIGATION EFFORTS.

SO THE MITIGATION EFFORTS MIGHT BE WALKOVERS, IT MIGHT BE PARKING WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S INCLUDING THE SIGNAGE AS WELL THAT DETAILS ALL THAT.

UNLESS THERE'S A PUBLIC ACCESS WAY LIKE THE BEACH POCKET PARKS.

>> SO IT'S A PUBLIC BEACH OR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN REQUIRES TO DEDICATE WALKOVERS, WHO PAYS FOR THAT? THE CITY OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

>> THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES. BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE REQUESTING THAT PORTION OF THE BEACH BE CLOSED DOWN TO A PUBLIC AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC.

>> NO. IT'S STILL WILL BE AN OPEN BEACH.

>> IT'S ALL. [OVERLAPPING]

>> NO. IT'S NOT OPEN BEACH.

>> I'M JUST ASKING, YOU TURN PLAN INTO SAYING WE'RE GUARANTEEING HIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'LL HAVE TWO DEDICATED PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS AS A CITY FOR MAKING THE REQUIREMENT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD PAY FOR THIS.

>> YEAH.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> WELL, IT'S A PUBLIC BEACH, BUT REMEMBER.

>> [INAUDIBLE] IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR SOMETHING?

>> BASICALLY, WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN A NEIGHBORHOOD SEEKS OUT THE CLOSURE OF AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC ON, IN FRONT OF THEIR SUBDIVISION ON THE BEACH.

THEY HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT.

AND THEY MITIGATE THAT THROUGH PARKING EITHER IN A CENTRAL SPOT SOMEWHERE OR WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION.

REALLY, THAT'S THE TWO OPTIONS.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THEN IT BECOMES A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WE SEND UP.

>> [INAUDIBLE] MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD DEDICATED WALK OVERS BINDING THEM TO PLAN THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING TO THE GAO.

>> THEY APPROACH US TO RESTRICT VEHICULAR ACCIDENTS.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SAY THAT THEY APPROACH US.

WE MAINTAINED VEHICLE ACCIDENTS.

THIS IS IF SOMEBODY COMES TO US AND SAYS, WE WOULD LIKE TO RESTRICT VEHICLE ACCESS IN FRONT OF OUR OUR AREA.

THEN WHAT WE SAY IS OKAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN EQUAL OR BETTER ACCESS.

AND HERE'S WHAT IT IS YET TO PROVIDE.

MORE PARKING SPOT FOR EVERY 15 LINEAR FEET IT'S GOT TO BE CONSPICUOUSLY SIGNED.

>> [INAUDIBLE] PARKING ALL ALONG THE BEACH.

>> YES. THEY APPROACH US IS NOT THAT WE WERE SETTING THIS UP AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE RESTRICTING THIS, BECAUSE.

>> WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BE IN COMPLIANCE THEN WE'RE ARE MAKING A COMMITMENT.

>> YEAH, AND THEN THERE'S ONE IN HERE THAT WE CAN GO OVER THAT WE ACTUALLY TO GET BACK INTO COMPLIANCE, THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO WIDEN OUT WHAT WAS LOUD ON THE BEACH.

THEY HAD A 200 FEET AND THEY HAD TO WIDEN IT OUT TO ALLOW MORE PARKING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT ON THE STREET IS WHAT THEY PROPOSED.

SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THESE.

I CAN SAY IT'S A LOT, WE HAVE THESE, WE CAN GO THROUGH THESE AND SHOW YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT CHANGES.

>> CARL EXCUSE ME, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

CAN WE DO A QUICK MIC CHECK FOR EVERYBODY? I'M TOLD THAT WE WEREN'T HEARING YOU-ALL AS COMMISSIONERS.

>> I WAS LISTENING ON DTB AND I COULDN'T HEAR.

[00:15:01]

>> MIC CHECK. [BACKGROUND]

>> THAT WAS YOU JOHN?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> MIC CHECK.

>> IT'S WORKING.

>> I'M COMING ON NOW.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YEAH, I THINK SO

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> I GOT A QUESTION. REAL QUICK.

>> YES, SIR.

>> SO CARL HOW MANY CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES HAVE BEACH ACCESS PLANS?

>> EVERYONE ALONG THE COAST AND COUNT IT MIGHT GO TO COUNTIES NEW ISIS COUNTY, SOUTH PADRE ISLAND.

>> THEY HAVE BEACH ACCESS PLANS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEACHES THAT ARE CLOSE TO VEHICLE TRAFFIC.

AND THIS IS SOME EDUCATION FOR ME TOO.

I THOUGHT THAT IF YOU HAD OPEN BEACHES AND YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARK ON THE BEACH, YOU DIDN'T NEED A BEACH ACCESS PLAN. IS THAT NOT RIGHT?

>> NO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT.

>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT?

>> EVERYONE OF THEM HAS IT BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THEM SET UP LIKE NEW ISIS COUNTY, THEY CHARGE TO GO ONTO THE BEACH.

>> SO THEY CHARGE, BUT IF YOU DIDN'T CHARGE, IF YOU DIDN'T HINDER THE PUBLIC FROM GOING TO THE BEACH, YOU STILL NEED A BEACH ACCESS PLAN?

>> WELL, IF THERE'S AN AREA THAT'S NOT LIKE AN INCORPORATED, NOT IN UNINCORPORATED, AND YOU CAN JUST DRIVE ON THE BEACH.

>> WELL, OF COURSE BECAUSE IT'S UNINCORPORATED AMENDMENT.

>> YEAH. BUT MOST OF THE THE INCORPORATED AREAS ALONG THE COAST HAVE THEM, BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING SOME TYPE OF ACCESS HERE, LIKE SOUTH PADRE ISLAND.

>> THEY CHARGE.

>> THEY HAVE MORE WALK OVERS THAT HAD MORE DUM WALK OVERS OFF BEACH PARKING, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO MOST OF THE INCORPORATED AREAS UP AND DOWN THE COAST HAVE IT.

BUT IF IT'S THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND YOU'RE GOOD ON THE BEACH, NEW ISIS COUNTY YOUR CORPUS AND YOU DRIVE DOWN, THEY GET OUT OF THAT INCORPORATED AREA.

THERE'S NOT ANY BEACH ACCESS.

>> BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY STOPPING THE PUBLIC FROM GOING TO THE BEACH.

SO THE ONLY REASON YOU HAVE A BEACH ACCESS PLAN IS BECAUSE YOU ARE LIMITING ACCESS TO THE BEACH IN SOME FORM OR FASHION?

>> SOME FORM OR FASHION. YES, SIR.

>> SO YOU DON'T NEED AND BEACH ACCESS PLAN IF YOU DID NOT LIMIT, NOT THAT WE WOULD NOT WANT A BEACH ACCESS.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE HAVE BEACH ACCESS PLANS IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME LIMITED ACCESS TO THE BEACH?

>> YEAH. THERE'S PEOPLE WHO GOT UNLIMITED ACCESS AND YET THEY DON'T NEED, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE.

>> YOU MIGHT BE SETTING SOME KIND OF POLICY THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE GLO SAYS WHICH YOU WANT TO AS AN ORGANIZATION, WHETHER IT BE A CITY OR COUNTY, I'M SURE ALL CITIES DO, BUT EVEN THE COUNTIES THAT DON'T DO IT CAN HAVE A PLAN IF THEY WANT TO PUT THAT POLICY INTO THERE PLAN.

WHATEVER THE POLICIES THEY.

>> BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO, [OVERLAPPING] YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE BEACH ACCESS PLAN IF YOU DON'T LIMIT ACCESS TO THE BEACH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A BEACH ACCESS PLAN.

SOME COUNTIES DON'T.

IN AREAS WHERE THEY ARE UNINCORPORATED, THEY HAVE NO PLAN.

>> AND IT JUST DEFAULTS BACK TO THE TAC AND THE GLO RULES.

>> JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE, JUST TO BE CLEAR.

SO WE'RE DOING THIS PRETTY MUCH SO THAT WE CAN GO CHANGE OUR PLAN LATER.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? I'M ALL FOR, HEY, LET'S GET IN COMPLIANCE.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DO THIS SO THAT IT CAN BE VOTED ON, SO IT CAN BE IN THE REGISTER.

I GET ALL THAT.

SO THIS REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO GET INTO THE BITS AND PIECES OF IT.

BECAUSE I LOOK AT THIS AND WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS, WE KNOW IT'S A MESS AND WE NEED TO FIX IT.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET A DEAL WHERE WE'RE PUTTING A BAND-AID ON SOMETHING.

AND THE BAND-AID STAYS THERE UNTIL SOMEBODY COMES AGAIN AND RIPS IT OFF.

SO WHERE DO WE KEEP THE BALL ROLLING ON THIS, SO THAT WE FIX THIS THE BEST WE CAN?

>> WELL, I'M GOING TO GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION JUST A LITTLE BIT IN MY PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE HAD A PHASED APPROACH THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO PURSUE, WHICH WAS BASICALLY FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS THAT WERE PENDING.

AND SECONDLY, THE COMPLIANCE INITIATIVES, WHICH IS WHAT KYLE IS REFERRING TO RIGHT NOW, WE WERE GOING TO SEGREGATE THAT.

AND THEN THIRD WAS GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE ADHOC COMMITTEES RECOMMENDATIONS AND INCORPORATE THOSE IN.

SO AS YOU WILL LATER HEAR, THE FIRST TWO PHASES THAT GLO IS REQUIRING

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US TO BASICALLY CO-MINGLE AND DO THOSE AT THE SAME TIME.

>> SO UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I GUESS BECAUSE WE DID INTERRUPT YOU, IF YOU WANT ONCE YOU GUYS GIVE US YOUR.

>> WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE ACCESS POINTS HERE.

AND SO WHAT I SAID, THESE ARE CHANGES THAT WAS DECIDED ON BETWEEN THE CITY AND GLO TO BRING US BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS ACCESS POINT TO AS STUART BEACH, THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE.

AND THEN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO AND CHANGE OUR PLAN TO ABSTRACT OUT ATOMS OR WHAT'S PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AND THE UNDERLYING ITEMS OF WHAT'S PROPOSED TO BE INCLUDED.

SO ON STUART BEACH, THE RESTRICTED USE AREA, WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE STUART BEACH IS SUPPOSED TO BE AT ACCESS 0.1C.

SO THE WAY THE WORDING WAS, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING IT FROM THE ACCESS POINT IS STILL GOING TO BE AN ACCESS 0.1C.

BUT WE ARE LEAVING 500 FEET OF THE RESTRICTED USE AREA IN DISCUSSIONS WITH GLO AS STUART BEACH AND AS FOR ADA RESTRICTED USE AT STUART BEACH.

THE OTHER THING IS THE 550 SPACES.

THIS IS FREE PARKING SPACES THAT WAS DETERMINED NOT TO.

WE DID NOT HAVE ADEQUATE FREE PARKING ALONG THE SEAWALL.

AND WE'LL GET TO THAT NEXT.

BUT THIS IS WHERE THEY'VE DESIGNATED THE FREE PARKING THAT WAS LACKING ON THE SEAWALL.

AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT THE CITY AND GLO HAS APPROVED TO SAY THAT THE 550 PARKING SPACES HERE ARE GOING TO BE HERE.

SO THAT'S FOR ACCESS POINT TO. STEVEN YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION?

>> YEAH. CAN YOU TELL WHAT THOSE TWO BOXES ARE? THE ORANGE AND THE YELLOW.

>> ORANGE IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED FREE PARKING AT STUART BEACH.

I BELIEVE IT'S 200 AND THEN THE YELLOW IS WHAT THE PROPOSED 350 THAT WAS LACKING, AND SO YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF 550 IN THAT AREA.

>> SO YELLOW IS?

>> ORANGE IS CURRENT, IS PRESENT.

YELLOW IS PROPOSED.

>> YES.

>> ADDITION TO THE ORANGE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

>> YES SIR.

>> HAVE WE SEEN THAT BEFORE IN OUR PRESENTATIONS?

>> NO, THIS HAS NOT BECOME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

WHEN TIM WORKED ON THIS AND GOT THE LETTER FROM THE GLOS, SAID WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS.

THEY SAID THAT WE DID NOT HAVE TO SEND THESE PARKING CHANGES UP.

WE COULD SEND THE OTHER THREE AMENDMENTS THAT I BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, BUT THEN ONCE WE SENT THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT THEY CAME BACK AND SAID NO, YOU ALSO HAVE TO SEND THIS.

>> THE COMPLIANCE.

>> THE COMPLIANCE.

>> COMPLIANCE IN ITS ENTIRETY, NOT JUST ONE SPOT OR ANOTHER.

>> YEAH.

>> THESE COMPLIANCE INITIATIVES ARE THE THINGS THAT WERE PUT INTO PRACTICE, SO TO SPEAK.

EITHER CREATED OR IMPLEMENTED, THAT THE GLO CAME BACK AND ADMINISTRATIVELY SAID, YOU GUYS ARE GOOD TO GO.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IT IN THE REGISTER YET, DON'T DO YOUR ORDINANCE YET BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ALL AT ONE TIME.

THEY SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED US TO DO THAT.

>> SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED YOU TO ADD THIS MEANS PARKINGS SPACES?

>> WELL, YES.

I MEAN, WE WERE DOWN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPACES WE HAD TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.

THIS IS WHERE WE DECIDED TO DO IT AND THE GLO WAS OKAY WITH IT.

NOW, IT WILL COME BEFORE YOU GUYS ON THE 26TH AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO RATIFY THAT.

>> I MEAN, I'M SURPRISED TO SEE THE 550 IN THIS LOCATION.

JUST IN GENERAL, I GUESS, BUT ESPECIALLY ON STEWART BEACH SINCE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF STEWART BEACH AND WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE PARK AND THE AREA.

NOW WE HAVE 550 MORE SPOTS OVER THERE FOR A PARKING LOT IN SOME PRETTY VALUABLE PROPERTY. IT'S A SURPRISE.

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>> YES. [LAUGHTER] UNFORTUNATELY, THE NUMBERS ON THE SEAWALL HAVE BEEN DWINDLING LITTLE BY LITTLE EACH YEAR.

WE'VE LOST SOME WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY ACCESS LOCATIONS THAT WERE NECESSARY WHERE WE LOST SOME WE DID THE PLANNERS.

ALL THOSE THINGS JUST CHIPPED AWAY AT IT A LITTLE BY LITTLE AND THEN THE COMPANY.

>> I GOT YOU.

>> QUICK QUESTION. IT APPEARS WHERE YOU HAVE THIS 200 ARE THERE ANY IMPROVEMENTS THERE NOW?

>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S A BUSINESS A PAVED LOT.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THERE'S PARTS OF IT THAT ARE PAVED THAT FROM A PREVIOUS USE THERE.

WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PAVE IT. WE JUST HAVE TO DESIGNATE.

>> REALLY. YOU JUST HAVE TO DESIGNATE A SPOT.

>> YOU CAN'T PARK THERE.

I MEAN, THAT WE'RE THAT 200 CARS ARE, I HAVE SEEN CARS PARKED THERE.

IT IS LIKE THEY KEEP IN MODE.

>> IT'S VERY RARE.

>> THE MAINTENANCE SIDE OF THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS PRETTY LIMITED, SOUNDS LIKE.

>> SOME PEOPLE USE IT. NOT VERY MANY.

I WOULD BE SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THAT 250 LOT, EVEN WHATEVER GET FILLED UP EXCEPT FOR SOME HUGE FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING.

>> THERE'S NOT ANY REQUIREMENT UNLESS WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AMENITIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THERE'S NOTHING TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE THAT SAYS.

>> YOU JUST HAVE TO DESIGNATE AN AREA.

>> YOU DESIGNATED IT.

THE NEXT SLIDE, KARINA, THIS IS SHOWING WHERE THE 500 FOOT RESTRICTED USE AREA THAT WE WANT IT TO DO.

IN ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS AMENDMENTS THAT WE TOOK UP EARLIER THIS YEAR WAS WE HAD ACCESS POINT ONCE SAY SOMEBODY CAME TO US AND REQUESTED TO REMOVE 1,000 FEET OF THE RESTRICTED USE AREA.

IN DISCUSSIONS WITH GLO, THEY SAID THAT WE HAD TO MAINTAIN IT.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO DO 500 FEET HERE, 200 FEET OF POCKET PARK 1, AND THEN 300 FEET OF POCKET PARK 3, BASICALLY DESIGNATING SOME AREAS AND WE'LL GET TO THOSE.

DESIGNATING THESE AREAS WITH MALLARDS AS ADA, RESTRICTED USE AREA.

THEY ALLOW ADA DOWN TO THE WATER'S EDGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'VE TALKED TO THE PARK BOARD ABOUT THIS, TELL THEM OUR PLAN.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ADDRESSING ANY ISSUES THEY HAVE, BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE.

>> WAS THERE ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE PARK BOARD OR FOR WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK FOR OR ANYTHING TO HAVE THAT AS A SPECIFIC ADA SPOT.

>> THEIR MAIN CONCERNS WERE ACCESS DOWN THERE.

THEY DID SOME DRAINAGE.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

THERE ARE SOME BRIDGES THERE THAT ALLOW THAT THEIR DUMP TRUCKS TO GO ACROSS.

THE CURRENT RESTRICTED YOU SAY THAT WE HAVE ON THE EASTERN TO THE EAST OF STEWART BEACH.

IT'S THE SAME BRIDGE.

THERE'S ONE JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE RED BOX THERE, RATED AT 18,000 POUNDS.

THAT WAS THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOGISTICS.

THEY DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS AS COUNCILMAN LIST GASKET WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON THERE.

IS IT GOING TO BE ANY IMPACTS TO PROPOSED ENHANCEMENTS TO STEWART BEACH? WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND ARCHITECT AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AVOIDING ANY PLANS FOR STEWART BEACH.

BEACH PRETRIAL PARTICULAR? YES.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTION [INAUDIBLE].

>> SURE. POCKET PARK NUMBER 2.

CURRENTLY IS THERE ACTUAL VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE BEACH, THEIR?

>> POCKET PARK? NO, SIR.

>> BUT THAT'S WHERE DOES THAT REPORT?

>> POCKET 3 AND POCKET PARK 1 AND POCKET PARK 2.

>> ONE AND THREE, SORRY.

>> I MISSPOKE UP.

>> I HAVE NOT HEARD YOUR OWN.

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON ACCESS POINT 2 STEWART BEACH? THE NEXT ONE IS THIS STEWART BEACH URBAN PARK, BASICALLY ALONG THE SEAWALL.

THESE ARE AREAS THAT WERE DESIGNATED, THEY BROKE IT INTO FOUR AREAS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CURRENT LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE,

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WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS ALONG THE SEAWALL.

IT JUST SAYS PARKING NORTH AND SOUTH AND TIP OUT 10% FREE PARKING.

AS YOU CAN SEE DOWN AT THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE, IT IS AN ACTUAL DESIGNATED NUMBER.

THIS IS WHAT THE GLO SAYS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OUT THERE.

IT CHANGES THE NUMBER FROM 230-218 OF THE FREE PARKING ON THE SEAWALL.

THEN IT REFERENCES THE 300 FREE PARKING OVER AT STEWART BEACH.

>> ARE THE FREE SCATTERED OUT?

>> YES, THE FREE SCATTERED OUT THROUGH.

>> JUST GET LUCKY AND GET A FREE SPOT.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. NOW HAVE [OVERLAPPING] FREE THEY'LL HIRE FREE PARKING.

>> NORTH SIDE THERE IS.

>> THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE ONLY FOR THE FREE.

WE WERE ABLE TO TALK WITH THE GLO ABOUT THAT AND THEY WERE OKAY WITH THAT CONCEPT AND WE CLUSTERED THEM IN THESE FOUR THESE GREEN SPOTS THAT YOU SEE THERE.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> I MEAN, AT ONE POINT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF DO WE PUT THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE OR WHATEVER IN EACH BLOCK? LITERALLY PULL THEM THROUGH THAT WAY.

THE THOUGHT WAS, LET'S DO THIS IN A MORE SIGNAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN TERRIBLE WITH THAT AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN VERY CONFUSING TO PULL FOLKS.

WE HAVE FOUR SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED AREAS.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE

>> JUST FROM MY OWN EDUCATION, THIS 10%, IS THIS A GLO NUMBER OR IS THIS A CITY OF GALVESTON NUMBER OF FREE SPACES?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 10% CAME FROM.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PREVIOUSLY DECIDED ON THAT PLAN. I DON'T KNOW.

>> GLO MANDATED IT.

>> BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE FREE PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE.

IT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU HAD GREEN SIGNS, NOW YOU HAD READ SIGNS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLOR THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

BUT IT SEEMS TO LIKE MOVE AROUND THAT MY IMAGINATION OR IS IT MOVING?

>> WHILE THEY SHOULDN'T BE MOVING ANYMORE? WE DESIGNATED THOSE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.

MAYBE SOME TIME IN ABOUT IN THAT RANGE.

THEY'VE REMAINED CONSISTENT SETS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE TO DO GOT IT BACK.

PART OF OUR COMPLIANCE IS WE HAVE TO DO AN ANNUAL REPORT AFTER GLO SAYING YEAH, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE ON OUR PARKING.

WE HAVE THIS MANY SPOTS, SEARS, THIS AND THEY WANT US TO TAKE PICTURES OF THE SIGN.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL MUCH FROM THE PICTURES OVER SIGN.

BUT THEY WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING UP SOME TYPE OF REPORT.

JUST STAY IN COMPLIANCE.

>> DEFINITION. SEAWALL URBAN BEACH PARK.

WHAT DOES THAT COMPRISE SERVE? [LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW [LAUGHTER].

I DON'T KNOW WHAT END.

>> IT'S BASICALLY THE SEAWALL RIGHT AWAY AND IT GOES FROM THE ENTIRE SEAWALL.

THAT'S THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE SEAWALL.

>> THAT'S WHERE THAT 1993 THAT'S 10% OF THAT LENGTH OF WHAT? THAT LENGTH OF SEAWALL.

THE SEAWALL URBAN BEACH PARK.

THAT MANY PARKING SPOTS, 10% OF THAT WOULD BE 1993?

>> NO, THAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER.

>> THAT'S THE TOTAL.

>> THE 10% IS THE 218.

WE'RE A LITTLE OVER SO.

>> BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIND WHERE THE REMAINING 266, 218+266.

>> THEY HAVE MORE THAN THEY NEED.

>> THAT ANYMORE.

>> IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 199.3 SPOTS AND YOU HAVE 218 PLUS THE EXTRA.

>> PLUS THE 266.

>> EXTRA LOCKED DOWN AT THE [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE STUFF DOWN ON STEWART BEACH.

>> THEN WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

>> THIS IS A POCKET PARK ONE, ACCESS 0.6, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S OPEN TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, BUT THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT 200 LINEAR FEET OF ADA PARKING.

PUTTING UP BALLARD THAT RUN PARALLEL TO THE WATER AND THEN DOWN TO THE WATER 50 OR 60 FEET AWAY, DESIGNATED PAINTED TOP OF BLUE OR SOMETHING JUST ADA PARKING ONLY.

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THAT'S PART OF THE RESTRICTED USE AREA, ESPECIALLY USE AREA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REMOVE FROM ONE C.

WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO PUT THESE BALLARD UP AND TO DESIGNATE THESE AS PART OF OUR APPROVED EROSION PROTECTION PLAN.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SUBMITTED 2014 OR WHATEVER OUR EROSION PROTECTION PLAN THAT WHICH IS PART OF OUR BEACH ACCESS PLAN IS SAY THAT THIS IS THINGS THAT THE CITY WOULD TRY TO DO TO CREATE THESE RESTRICTED AREAS.

WHILE WE CAN CAME UP WITH IDEA THAT, LET'S GO TO SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS AND JUST DESIGNATE AN AREA JUST FOR ADA PARKING, LIKE A NORMAL PARKING LOT.

A DESIGNATED AREA THAT STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE WATER.

>> ARE YOU STILL USING THE 15 FOOT PER [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE'RE NOT DOING OUT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.

THEY CAN STILL DRIVE TO THE BEACH.

YOU ONLY HAVE TO DO THAT IF YOU'RE RESTRICTING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.

>> OKAY.

>> THEY CAN STILL DRIVE, PEDESTRIANS CAN STILL WALK THROUGH THERE AND ALL THAT.

IT'S JUST BASICALLY LIKE AN IRREGULAR PARKING LOT DESIGNATED AN AREA FOR ADA PARKING.

>> THEY'LL BE PARKING FOR BOTH?

>> YES. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S GOING TO BE 200 FEET OR IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNATED OR LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 20% OF IT IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNATED FOR ADA.

>> JUST FOR ADA. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM THE.

>> UNDERSTANDING.

>> WATER'S EDGE TO THE LINE OF VEGETATION.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT GOING IN LIKE 60 FEET FROM THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO PULL IN, TURN AROUND, STUFF LIKE THAT SO THEY CAN STILL GET A PART BEHIND AND ALONG THE SIDE AND EVERYTHING IS STILL WALKED THROUGH THERE.

>> THIS IS PART OF THE ADA STEP THAT WE TOOK FROM STEWART AND WE'RE.

>> YES, SIR.

>> GOOD. I LIKE THAT. [LAUGHTER]

>> WE TOOK 1,000 FEET IN FRONT OF THE SPEECH.

WE KEPT 500 AT STEWART.

WE GET 200 HERE.

>> YES SIR.

>> AND 300 AT POCKET PARK.

>> YES.

>> THIS 200 ANYBODY CAN ACCESS IT

>> THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PARK IN THAT 200, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE ADA. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WHO REGULATES IT? [LAUGHTER]

>> NO ONE, WE DON'T HAVE BODY SITTING THERE MONITORING THIS.

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO A HANDICAP STICKER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. CORRECT?

>> WE'LL HAVE A SIGN-UP JUST SAYS.

>> WE JUST HAVE SIGNAGE CHAIR.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M JUST ASKING.

>> THAT'S WHAT'S OCCURRING RIGHT NOW ON THE EXISTING RESTRICTED USE AREA.

NOBODY MONITORS IT.

ANYBODY CAN GO ON THERE.

IT'S NOT MONITORED.

>> AT LEAST AT CERTAIN PARTS OF THE DAY.

>> IT'S MONITORED WHEN THEY STAFF STEWART BEACH.

THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE GATE.

>> I BELIEVE THEY DO.

>> THAT'S FINE. JUST ASK THEM QUESTIONS. THAT'S FINE.

>> [INAUDIBLE] OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> NO, THEY JUST ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PLACARD IT.

>> JUST PLACARD? OBVIOUSLY THE ARTS THAT ARE PLACARD.

>> YES.

>> PLACARD BEING THE HANDICAP.

>> THEY HAVE TO ASK AT SOME LEVEL.

WHEN THEY MAN THAT GATE AT STEWART BEACH BECAUSE THEY'RE CHARGING IT.

DID THEY COME TO THE SAME GATE? DID THEY CHARGE IT.

>> NO.

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BUT THEY MONITOR THE GATE WHEN THE PARKS OPEN.

>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IN.

>> IT'S TWO GATES.

>> DO THEY MONITOR THE GATE THOUGH WHEN THE PARTS OPEN AT ALL?

>> THERE'S THE ORIGINAL ACCESS GATE THAT'S THERE THAT EVERYBODY IS SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH TO GET TOWARD THE FRONT END OF THE BEACH THERE.

IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT AND AROUND THE EAST SIDE OF IT, GET OVER IN FRONT OF PRESERVING GRAM BEACH.

IN THOSE OTHER AREAS WHERE THE SPECIAL USE AREA IS, THERE ALSO IS A MONITOR SPOT THERE.

THEY MAN IT AT SOME POINTS DURING THE DAY AND EVENINGS AND IT'S NOT MONITORED IN THE EVENINGS.

>> BUT WHEN THEY DO MONITOR, WHAT DO THEY MONITOR?

>> I THINK THEY JUST MAKES SURE, IN THAT CASE, THERE'S THREE THINGS GOING ON.

THERE'S THE HANDICAPPED PLACARD, EITHER THEY HAVE THAT.

THEY HAVE A PERSONAL WATERCRAFT THAT THEY'RE LAUNCHING OR FISHING.

I'M TOLD THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, IF YOU TELL IF YOU TELL THEM THAT I'M HERE TO FISH, THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, WHERE'S YOUR FISHING ROD [OVERLAPPING].

>> A FISHING ROD OR ANY A BOAT. [INAUDIBLE]

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> BUT THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE TO THESE OTHER AREAS, IS WELL?

>> NOT.

>> THESE ARE JUST ADA.

BASICALLY WE'RE TAKING WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF ADA IN ONE SPOT AND WE'RE SPREADING IT OUT.

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>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> TO THE BEACHFRONT.

>> YES.

>> WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT PLAN.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S BEHIND THAT WHOLE NOTION OF SPREADING THIS OUT SO THAT THERE'S HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY AT VARIOUS POINTS.

NOT JUST THE EAST END ONLY.

WE THOUGHT IT'D BE BETTER IF IT WERE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

>> SOUND GOOD.

>> LET'S GO. THE NEXT ONE IS BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.

REALLY, THE ONLY CHANGE, AND THIS WAS THE CURRENT LANGUAGE JUST SAYS THAT ALL THE PARKING WILL BE ON SEA BUTTERFLY STREET.

THE PARKING HAS ACTUALLY BEEN DISSEMINATED OUT THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

REALLY, THE ONLY CHANGE WE'RE MAKING ON THIS ONE IS INSTEAD OF SAYING ON A SEA BUTTERFLY STREET IS JUST DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION.

WHAT WE DO IS ON THESE SUBDIVISIONS IS WHEN YOU PULL INTO A SUBDIVISION, THERE'S A SIGN THERE THAT SAYS, THESE ARE THE STREETS WHERE THE PARKING IS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION.

TO SELL THE PUBLIC KNOWS, HEY, HERE'S WHERE I CAN PARK AND GO TO.

BUT THIS IS THE ONLY CHANGE ON THIS ONE WAS JUST THE PLAN NOW SAYS IT'S ALL ON ONE STREET, BUT NOW IT'S JUST THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

INSTEAD OF PUTTING EVERY STREET IN OUR PLAN, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THE SIGN SAY IN SEA BUTTERFLY, UNICORN, WHATEVER STREETS IS WHERE THE PARK IS LOCATED. QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE.

>> THESE TWO YELLOW LINES IN THAT PICTURE, IS THAT WHAT'S THEY ARE CURRENTLY?

>> YES. [OVERLAPPING] YOU HAVE 16, AND 14, AND 64, AND 42.

BUT THOSE ARE WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AT. YES SIR.

>> THE HOA GETS TO DETERMINE WHAT STREETS THEY'LL MAKE AVAILABLE?

>> THESE ARE THE STREETS THAT I MADE AVAILABLE.

>> THAT WAS IN THE MAP THAT WAS CENTERED YELLOW.

>> IS THE PARKING LIMITED TO JUST ONE SIDE OF THE STREET?

>> SOME ARE, SOME IS NOT.

SOME IS PARALLEL PARKING, SOME IS HEAD IN PARKING.

EVERY HOPLA IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THEIR SIGNAGE UP THERE SAYS PARALLEL PARKING.

SOME OF THESE THEY DON'T HAVE IT ON BOTH SIDES FOR SAFETY REASONS.

THERE'S NO PARKING ON THAT, BUT THERE'S CONSPICUOUS SIGNS OF THAT.

THAT WAS PART OF OUR COMPLIANCE.

AS I SAID, WE'RE DOING THESE QUARTERLY INSPECTIONS OF ALL THE SIGNAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SIGNS ARE UP.

THEN THERE'S, I SAID SOME PRO WAYS THAT HADEAN PARKING ONLY OFF THE STREET AND NOT PARALLEL.

>> CARL WHEN WE START GOING INTO THESE SUBDIVISIONS, I THINK THIS IS WHERE THIS GETS COMPLICATED AND IT'S NOT JUST THIS SUBDIVISION.

YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE ON THERE TOO.

AS WE KEEP GOING WEST, IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER.

JUST AS AN EXAMPLE AND NOT TO PICK ON THIS ONE, BUT THESE GUYS HAVE NARROW STREETS, THEY HAVE FIRE LANES.

THIS GETS COMPLICATED.

I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO CHECK THE COMPLIANCE BOX, BUT SOME OF THESE WE HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO BECAUSE, I WONDER IF THE FIRE MARSHAL WOULD EVEN APPROVE WHERE SOME OF THESE HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE THE ROAD IS NARROW.

A BIG HOUSES, NARROW STREETS, A ROW CARS PARKED ON THE SIDE.

THEY'RE NOT GETTING A LADDER TRUCK UP IN THEIR HOUSE FAR OUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NEXT STEP STUFF.

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT PROBABLY IS.

BUT THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN WITH SOME OF THIS THAT I SEE BECAUSE THE NEXT ONE HAS SOME SIMILAR ISSUES.

MEAN THERE'S PARKING ON THE STREET, YOU CAN'T EVEN DRIVE ON.

WHEN IT'S FULL OF SAND, YOU'LL GET STUCK.

I MEAN, I'LL JUST BRING THAT UP AGAIN.

YOU MENTIONED THAT, HEY, WE'VE GOT A PLAN.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PLAY IT THE PLAN.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IS OPPOSED TO KNOWING THAT THIS IS SOMEWHAT DYNAMIC.

THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF SPACE OUT THERE.

THEY CAN FIGURE SPOTS TO PUT THIS.

I JUST MENTIONED THAT BEFORE BECAUSE WHEN WE GET TO THE OTHER ONE, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS COMPLICATED FAST IN MY OPINION.

>> I BELIEVE IN THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION, YOU DO HAVE STANDARD 28 FOOT STREETS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

>> [INAUDIBLE] THE TEAM BEING WHICH ALLOWS FOR SMALLER STREETS.

THE PARKING IS ONLY PUT ON.

[00:45:03]

>> THE 28TH FOOT STREET IS WHERE THE PARKING WAS.

NOW, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ARE SOME AND OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT OF COURSE WERE BUILT THAT WAY BEFORE THE CITY ANNEX THEN.

WE HAD NO CONTROL OVER HOW THAT DEVELOPMENT TURNED OUT.

WE ARE COMPLYING WITH WHAT THE GLO IS MANDATING.

LIKE IN A SUBDIVISION THAT IS EXISTING, SOME OF THAT PARKING WAS ALREADY HAPPENING.

AGAIN, REMEMBER THIS IS THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO.

IF EVERYBODY CAME OUT AND POPULATED THE STREETS IN THE WAY THAT THIS MAP SHOWS THEN IT WOULD BE THAT FULL.

THAT'S FREQUENTLY NOT THE CASE.

>> I AGREE. IT FREQUENTLY, BUT MOSTLY IS NOT THE CASE.

>> BUT NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT A SOLUTION THAT WE HAD TO GET.

>> I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO HERE WITH JUST THIS IN MY OPINION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY, I MEAN, YOU ALL ARE WORKING WITH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT MEAN WE'RE NOT JUST GOING INTO NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUT IN PARKING IN THERE WITHOUT TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> I SAID THEY COME TO US.

>> BUT I KNOW FOR CERTAIN AND THIS ONE, THEY HAVE FAR LANES ON A LOT OF STUFF.

IT'S IT'S MARKED ON THE STREETS.

YOU GOT A FOUR-STORY HOUSE RIGHT THERE AND BECAUSE IT'S T&D, IT'S ALL NARROW.

>> WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT. WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM TO PUT PARKING ON THE STREET THAT HAD A FIRE LANE OR TAKE AWAY A FIRE LANE TO PUT PARKING.

>> SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES YOU'LL SEE HAVE A NARROW STREET LIKE THAT.

IT'S OFF THE SIDE OF THE STREET.

IT'S BASICALLY STILL IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT NOT LITERALLY ON THE PAVEMENT.

THAT'S THE INTENTION BEHIND IT.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S INADVERTENT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK IT'S HAPPENING NOW?

>> I KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND IN THIS COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE SEATS THE WHOLE SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE CARS.

THE HOUSES THAT ARE ON THE BEACHFRONT.

THOSE ARE BIG HONKING HOUSES.

IT'S T&D, SO THEY DON'T HAVE 60 FEET.

THE HOUSES ARE UP CLOSE TO THE STREET. THEN THEY HAVE A 28.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WIDE THE STREETS ARE THERE.

THE STREETS ARE PROBABLY AT LEAST 28 FEET WIDE.

BUT YOU PARK YOUR CAR ON ONE SIDE OF THAT STREET AND THE HOUSE IS VERY CLOSE TO THE STREET.

THESE ARE THINGS WE CAN FIX.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO THEM AND FIX THEM INSTEAD OF JUST SLAPPING A BAND-AID ON THIS.

>> IN PART OF THIS BAND-AID APPROACH TILL WE GET APPROVED AND THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THINGS AS WELL.

IN A STANDARD 28-FOOT STREET, YOU CAN HAVE PARKING ON ONE SIDE AND STILL HAVE A 20-FOOT FIRE LANE.

IT'LL STILL ACCOMMODATES THAT.

>> WELL, WE CAN CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO THAT BUTTON.

I'M JUST BRINGING UP AND I'M NOT REALLY PICKING ON THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S IN OTHER AREAS WHERE WE HAVE PARKING SPACE DESIGNATED AND IT JUST FLAT DOESN'T WORK THERE.

>> ON THE PAVEMENT?

>> WELL, YEAH, ON THE PAVEMENT WHEN NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME WE DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE PAVEMENT.

YOU CAN BE WHEREVER.

YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA.

BUT THE NEXT ONE THAT WE'LL I'LL LET YOU KEEP GOING.

>> [LAUGHTER] THE NEXT ONE IS POCKET PARK 2, THERE IS NO DRIVE-ON JAVELIN ACCESS HERE.

THIS ONE HAS BEEN HIT PRETTY HARD BY HURRICANES AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.

THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT SOME OF THE PARKING SPOTS ARE LOCATED AT OTHER ACCESS POINTS.

IF YOU LOOK DOWN THERE AT THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE, THERE ARE SOME THAT SOME OF THE REQUIRED SPACES ARE LOCATED AT.

LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS GLO AGREEING TO THIS.

SOME OF THE EXCESS AND ACCESS POINT 8 AND THEN ACCESS POINT 15.

THEY'RE ALLOWING US TO USE TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIRED PARKING AT THIS SPOT.

>> HERE, THE WHEELCHAIR-ACCESSIBLE DUNE WALKOVER, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THAT?

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S WHERE WE THINK THE COUNTY OWNS THE PROPERTY.

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WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON. YES, SIR.

WE MAINTAIN THE DOOM WALKOVER ON THAT ONE AND POCKET PARK 4.

>> OKAY.

>> CURRENTLY WORKING ON UPDATING POCKET PARK 3.

THE NEXT ONE IS ACCESS POINT 12 BERMUDA BEACH.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS HAD QUITE A BIT OF EROSION AND LOST QUITE A BIT OF MID OF A FRONTAGE.

IF YOU SEE THERE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE BLUE SPOTS, BUT THIS AREA, IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE PROPOSED CHANGE SINCE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COMPENSATE FOR THIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID WAS THEY ACTUALLY MOVED IT FROM 150 FEET TO 564.

IF A PLA IS NOT ABLE TO [NOISE] PROVIDE THE PARKING OR SOME OTHER REMEDY TO WHAT'S MISSING, THEN THEY MAY HAVE TO ACTUALLY ALLOW VEHICLES BACK IN FRONT ON THE BEACH IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTIES.

THIS IS ONE THAT YOU CAN SEE IT WENT FROM 211-87 THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE?

>> [INAUDIBLE] HAS 63, 30 GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT ALONG THE BEACH FOR 63,33,31,16.

THAT'S NOT PARKING ON THE BEACH, THAT'S PARKING IN THE STREET.

>> IT'S RED. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHERE THEY ALLOWED IT, BUT WELL.

>> MINE IS NOT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT MAY BE PARKING. I CAN'T REALLY.

>> IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE THAT YOU SENT ME, BUT I HADN'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S IT COULD BE RED NOW.

>> THAT MAY BE PARKING ALONG THE STREET. YES, SIR.

>> THIS IS ONE WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK THERE.

IT'S JUST NOT.

>> TOO TIGHT.

>> YEAH.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THIS IS A REALLY UNIQUE AREA.

[LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A ROAD UNDERNEATH THE SAND THERE OR NOT BUT THIS RIGHT HERE.

[OVERLAPPING] WHEN IT GETS REALLY DRY LIKE IT DID THIS SUMMER YOU GET STUCK DRIVING DOWN THERE.

LOOK, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO GET.

AGAIN, I LOOK AT THIS AND GO, WE GOT TO FIX THIS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THE FIX, BUT.

>> I WILL SAY THIS BEACH HAS APPROACHED ME ABOUT SOME WAYS TO FIX THIS REMEDY TO THIS.

>> OKAY.

>>THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS ON.

>> I'M JUST THRILLED WE'RE DISCUSSING IT.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PROCESS.

>> THE NEXT ONE IS A POCKET PART 3.

WHAT DID HAVE OFF-BEACH PARKING, HOWEVER, I THINK AFTER THE HURRICANES THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE.

WE ACTUALLY OPEN IT BACK UP TO ON-BEACH PARKING.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WORKING WITH A GLO TO REESTABLISH SOME AMENITIES OUT THERE.

THAT'S WHAT THESE CHANGES ARE.

WE HAVE ALL THESE PARKING AT ACCESS POINT 14.

WE'VE OPENED UP ACCESS POINT 13 TO ALLOW FOR THE ON-BEACH PARKING AND THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THE OTHER 300 FEET OF ADA PARKING WE ESTABLISHING IN THE BOTTLERS, COMPENSATE FOR SOME OF THAT 1,000 FEET THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE IT, OTHER AREAS.

>> IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, DOES THAT MEAN THERE WOULD BE ONLY 50 FEET OF OTHER PARKING? IS IT 350 LINEAR FEET?

>> IT'LL JUST BE 300 LINEAR FEET, BUT YOU STILL HAVE WIDTH.

YOU CAN PARK BEHIND.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO GO THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE BEACH.

WE'RE JUST PROPOSING TO GO.

>> WITH 80A.

>> YES, 80A.

>> IT'LL BE.

>> YOU CAN PUT IT AT THE END AND STILL GET YOUR 350 FEET.

>> YEAH. YOU CAN PUT IT AT THE END, COME DOWN, AND BASICALLY IT'D BE LIKE A U YOU CAN STILL HAVE ACCESS BEHIND IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THAT AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THAT'S ONLY 50 FEET OR OTHER PARKING.

>> I THINK KYLE HAS A GRAPHIC OF THAT FOR THE.

>> NEXT ONE SHOWS, NEXT ITEM.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO GO THE ENTIRE WIDTH.

WE'RE JUST PROPOSING TO GO LIKE THE LANES.

PEOPLE COULD PARK, WALK DOWN, THEY CAN WALK THROUGH THIS AREA THEY CAN DO ALL THAT JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR ADA.

THOSE ARE OUR PROPOSED CHANGES.

LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE WHAT THE GLO HAS

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SAID THAT WE'RE DOING NOW ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS.

GOING THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS OF DOING THE ORDINANCE CHANGE, UPDATING OUR PLAN, AND GOING OUT IN THE TEXAS REGISTER WITH THE OTHER THREE AMENDMENTS THAT TIM WILL BRIEF US ON HERE IN A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO. ALL RIGHT.

>> YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. YOU GOT TO.

[4.B. Update From Staff On The General Land Office Response To The City’s Proposed Amendments To The Beach Access, Dune Protection, And Beachfront Construction Regulations. (Hill/Walla)]

>> YES, SIR. I'VE GOT A POWERPOINT, BUT TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS PRESENTATION AT A POINT IN TIME WHERE IT PREDATED THIS PRESENTATION.

I CAN CERTAINLY STILL DO IT.

WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES LEFT.

BUT BOTTOM LINE ON THAT ASPECT IS WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE WERE WITH THE PLAN GENERATION, ON THE COMPLIANCE, WHERE WE WERE ON THE THREE PROJECTS WHICH HAVE ALREADY PASSED COUNCIL, AND WHAT GLO ANTICIPATES GOING FORWARD.

I'VE GOT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND IT MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL AT THIS POINT IF I SEND IT OUT TO YOU GUYS SO YOU CAN HAVE IT.

IT'S GENERALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TIMEFRAMES THAT KYLE WAS TALKING ABOUT AND AT THE TIME THAT WE HAD INITIALLY PRESENTED THIS TO COUNSEL, THERE WERE QUESTIONS AS TO WHERE ARE WE ON THIS.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE.

I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THAT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IF YOU'D LIKE.

>> YEAH, THAT WORKS FOR ME.

>> OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BILL AND I WILL CALL THE WORKSHOP MEETING ADJOURNED.

WE'LL TAKE ABOUT A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK HERE AND WE'LL COME BACK FOR OUR PRIVATE MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.