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[Landmark Commission on August 21, 2023.]
GOOD AFTERNOON. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.TODAY IS AUGUST 21ST, 2023, AND THE TIME IS 4:00.
WE WILL START WITH ATTENDANCE.
COMMISSIONER ALBERSTADT IS ABSENT.
COMMISSIONER BAKER IS ABSENT, AS IS COMMISSIONER BOURGEOIS.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS ABSENT.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER STETZEL-THOMPSON.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SWANSON.
PRESENT. AND COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS IS ABSENT.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF THE CASES WE'RE HEARING TODAY? SEEING NONE MOVING ALONG TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? DO WE SEE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE? NO. NO.
MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
PUBLIC COMMENT CATHERINE DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED.
OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
THIS IS FOR CASE 23LC-035 1409 AVENUE M.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF MR. EVANS OR PROPERTY REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO PUT HARDIEPLANK SIDING ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURE BACK HERE.
AND YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SIDING ON THIS SIDE AND THE BACK.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ALL LOOK CONTIGUOUS TO THE PROPERTY AND WE'RE WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME EXISTING SITE AND PUT.
OKAY. IT WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME COLOR.
OKAY. SO BASICALLY TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER AND ALSO TO KEEP THE GUEST KEEP IT MORE DURABLE. YEAH, IT INSULATES A LITTLE BIT.
CATHERINE DO YOU WANT A NOTE? COUNCILMAN COLLINS IS IN.
YEAH COUNCILMAN COLLINS HAS JOINED US AT 4:03.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. OKAY.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON CASE 23LC-035.
SARAH I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 23-035 FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU. FOLKS, YOU DON'T NEED TO STAY HERE FOR THE WHOLE MEETING.
NOT THAT WE AREN'T INCREDIBLY ENTERTAINING HERE, BUT THANKS.
[LAUGHTER] OKAY, MOVING ON TO CASE 23LC-034.
LET ME GET BACK TO MY I'M GOING IN ORDER OF WHAT'S IN MY PACKET.
AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DO THAT.
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO NEW BUSINESS AND PUBLIC AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE CITY OF GALVESTON HAS RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FOR CONGREGATION BETH JACOB AT 2401 AVENUE K, WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION'S STATE BOARD OF REVIEW ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2023.
THE DRAFT NOTIFICATION NOMINATION CAN BE VIEWED ON THE HISTORIC COMMISSION'S WEBSITE, AND THE LINK WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AS A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO REVIEW ALL NOMINATIONS TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AND FORWARD THEIR OPINION TO THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION'S NATIONAL REGISTER PROGRAMS OFFICE AND THE CLG PROGRAM.
PLEASE SEE THE ATTACHED DRAFT RESOLUTION THAT WAS IN YOUR STAFF PACKET.
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STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE NOMINATION AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS NOMINATION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION.
I'LL SECOND. SARAH, SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR.
OKAY. MOVING ON TO CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS CASE 23LC-034 3608 AVENUE O.
FOUR NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RETURNED.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REPLACE THE FRONT DOOR WITH A DOOR OF A DIFFERENT STYLE.
PLEASE SEE EXHIBIT A FOR THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL.
PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
CONFORMANCE STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
PROPOSED DOOR IS IN THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE, WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE STYLE OF THE HOUSE.
AND THEN A PICTURE, A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE DOOR IN PLACE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN AND ASK IF MR. MCDOWELL IS PRESENT.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ASK FOR A MOTION ON CASE 23LC-034.
034. YEAH, GO AHEAD AND RESTATE THE WHOLE THING.
IN REGARDS TO CASE 23LC-034 I RECOMMEND THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS OF DENIAL.
I SECOND. DUE TO NONCONFORMANCE WITH THE DESIGN CONFORMANCE DESIGN.
YEAH. AND I'M AND YOU GUYS KNOW I'M A HUGE FAN OF CRAFTSMAN, SO IT PAINS ME NOT TO APPROVE THAT, BUT WE HAVE A JOB TO DO, AND THAT'S TO PROTECT THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY. ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS. I TEAR MY PACKET APART AND THEN I BECOME MISS ADD UP HERE, SO.
OKAY, MOVING ON. CASE 23LC-036 IS 1628 C.
ALL RIGHTY. SO THIS IS ANOTHER CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
THIS IS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION ON A VACANT LOT.
THERE WERE 28 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, TWO RETURNED, ONE WITH NO COMMENT, ONE IN OPPOSITION.
DETAILED ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS ARE INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT A OF THE STAFF REPORT.
AS NOTED, THE LOT IS CURRENTLY VACANT, A STRUCTURE THAT PREVIOUSLY EXISTED THERE WAS DEMOLISHED A CIRCA 2014 AND THEN THE CURRENT APPLICANT'S PURCHASE OF PROPERTY AND REPLATTED INTO ONE CONTIGUOUS PARCEL EARLIER THIS YEAR FOR DEVELOPMENT.
YOU NOTE THE ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USES IN THE STAFF REPORT.
PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS A TWO STORY STRUCTURE, AS NOTED.
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WITH TRANSOMS AND SIDELIGHTS WITH DECORATIVE COLUMNS, HANDRAILS AND BALUSTERS WRAP GALLEYS OR DECORATIVE ARCHES ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND A BRICK CLAD ABOVE GROUND BASEMENT, AS WE CALL THEM. AND ONCE AGAIN, DETAILED DRAWINGS ARE EXHIBIT A OF THE STAFF REPORT.PLEASE NOTE THE APPLICABLE DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL.
EACH SECTION OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS IS SUMMARIZED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I'LL TOUCH ON THEM BRIEFLY IN CLOSING.
ELEVATED FOUNDATION STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST TO USE BRICK CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS THAT IN THIS CASE.
SITE STANDARDS FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
THEREFORE, THE PROPOSED SITING IS APPROPRIATE.
THE FRONT DOOR IS OBVIOUS AND LOCATED TO FACE SEALY STREET AGAIN.
THIS CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MASSING STANDARDS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THE TWO STORY APARTMENT BUILDING ON GRADE ADJACENT IS THE LOWEST BUILDING AT APPROXIMATELY 18 FOOT.
THE HIGHEST IS APPROXIMATELY THE PARAPET OF TRUE CASTLE AT AROUND 44 TO 45FT.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER FAIRLY TALL STRUCTURES IN THE AREA.
STILL, STAFF RECOMMENDS LOWERING THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, GIVING FLOODPLAIN CONSIDERATIONS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LINE WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURES FOR BUILDING FORM THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
NOTE NEW CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPOSED OF SIMPLE RECTANGULAR FORMS. THE PROPOSED DESIGN IS GENERALLY RECTANGULAR IN SHAPE.
THE PROPOSED ROOF GENERALLY CONFORMS WITH REGARDS TO DESIGN, WITH A LOW PITCH HIP ROOF, STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF FOR BUILDING STANDARDS FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN STANDARDS.
PROPOSED DESIGN MIMICS, IN SOME DEGREE HISTORIC DETAILS NOT COMMONLY SEEN ON MORE CONTEMPORARY HOMES SUCH AS THE WRAPAROUND FRONT PORCH, DECORATIVE TURN, WOOD COLUMNS AND SPINDLES, MULTI-PANE WINDOWS AND ARCHED GALLERY OPENINGS ON THE FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR.
SO BECAUSE OF THIS, STAFF RECOMMENDS PROPOSED WRAPAROUND PORCH DETAILS BE SIMPLIFIED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SUCH AS USING SIMPLE SQUARE PORCH COLUMNS AND HANDRAILS AND OMITTING THE SIX INCH ROUND DECORATIVE COLUMNS.
ONCE AGAIN, LET'S SEE BUILDING MATERIALS.
SO DUE TO NON CONFORMANCE WITH DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES, STAFF RECOMMENDS REQUEST BE DENIED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION ONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 10.110 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SO THE APPLICANT BE AGGRIEVED BY THE DECISION LANDMARK COMMISSION LETTER REQUESTING APPEAL MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER WITHIN 20 DAYS OF THE DECISION.
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS MAY BE APPROPRIATE.
SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE THE APPLICANT SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN, MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT PRESENTED IN ATTACHMENT OR EXHIBIT A OF THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS. A PROPOSED FINISHED FIRST FLOOR SHALL BE LOWERED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHILE STILL CONFORMING TO FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS AS NEEDED.
THE ARCHES ALONG THE LOWER PORCH GALLERY BE OMITTED.
PROPOSED WINDOWS WILL BE OF A MORE CONTEMPORARY ONE OVER ONE LIGHT CONFIGURATION AND THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY AND GARAGE DOORS ACCESS TO THE 17TH STREET TO BE OMITTED AND RELOCATED TO TAKE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY PLUS STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH SIX.
SO HERE WE HAVE THE THE LOCATION ON THE CORNER SHOWING THE CORNER LOT IN THE LOWER RIGHT.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTS FRONT ELEVATION FOR REVIEW AS WELL.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE REAR.
AND THEN WE HAVE AN EXHIBIT SHOWING THE KIND OF LAYOUT OF THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE BLOCK.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE IN SETBACKS.
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BOTH SIDES IN FRONT.NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE THE SIDE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
THE ONE ON THE LOWER WOULD BE, I BELIEVE, THE VISIBLE ONE FACING SEVEN FACING THE NUMBER STREET.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YEAH, 17TH STREET.
THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST.
THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
ALL RIGHT. A LOT OF WOOD TO CHOP HERE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE WINDOWS.
I SEE 12 OR 13 TRANSOMS, BUT I DON'T SEE THEM SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED.
AND THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, ARE THEY PART OF THE ONES TO BE OMITTED BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO MANY LIGHTS ON THEM? I BELIEVE THAT STAFF'S CONCERN IS MORE WITH THE WINDOW PANE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOWER WINDOWS TO BE ONE OVER ONE, YOU COULD RECOMMEND SOMETHING TOWARD THE TRANSOMS AS WELL. OF COURSE, IF, YOU KNOW, COMMISSION FINDS SOMETHING, THAT STAFF MAY BE OVERLOOKED OR DIDN'T YOU DON'T AGREE WITH.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, MR. AND MRS. GRAVES OR THE ARCHITECT, MR. EASTERWOOD, IS PRESENT TO COME IN AND SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME.
MR. EASTERWOOD ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WHAT ABOUT THE SIDE MIC? OH, YEAH, SURE. THAT ONE'S.
WAS THAT ONE WORKING? OH, YEAH.
THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
AS I WENT THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT.
YES, THERE'S A LOT OF WOOD TO CHOP HERE, BUT HONESTLY, I CAME UP WITH A LOT OF CHECK MARKS THAT MEET THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND VERY FEW THAT THAT ACTUALLY DID NOT.
I THINK THAT THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE REGARDLESS OF THE INTRUSION THAT'S NEXT DOOR. AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOS THAT I TOOK TO, TO KIND OF ILLUSTRATE THAT.
SO LET ME JUST GO, I GUESS, GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION IF I COULD.
I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO DO THAT OR.
THIS IS A SECOND HOUSE THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR THIS LOT.
WE DESIGNED ONE FOR THE WHITE'S ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO BEFORE THEY SOLD THE HOUSE.
SOME OF THIS YOU'VE SEEN ALREADY.
PRIMARILY, IT'S THE REASON FOR THIS SLIDE.
AND THEN NEXT AGAIN, THIS IS GROUND FLOOR.
THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN THAT SHOWS THE WRAPAROUND PORCH, SOMETHING THAT THE OWNERS REALLY WANTED TO HAVE, IS A PORCH THAT NOT ONLY FACED SEALY BUT ALSO TOOK ADVANTAGE OF 17TH STREET.
BASIC FLOOR PLAN, AGAIN SHOWING THE WRAPAROUND PORCH.
ALSO, THERE'S A REAR, YOU KNOW, PRETTY LARGE REAR YARD PORCH CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN.
NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE ELEVATIONS.
THEY SHOW THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
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THEY SHOW THE GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING.OF COURSE. IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT HAS A CERTAIN CONTEXT THAT IT NEEDS TO ADDRESS, ESSENTIALLY.
OKAY. SO GET A SENSE OF WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE FROM THESE TWO SLIDES.
NEXT ONE. ALL WOOD METAL ROOFING, JUST LIKE DANIEL ALLUDED TO.
I'M ASKING FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE TODAY.
I'M NOT PRESENTING ANY OTHER CHANGES TO OUR DESIGN.
SO YOU SEE THE TWO GARAGE DOORS AND THOSE WOULD BE FACING SEALY OR FACING 17TH STREET AND A SOLID WOOD FENCE THAT MEETS THE GUIDELINES. NEXT SLIDE.
AND IT ALSO HAD THE SAME CURB CUTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS.
AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.
SO I JUST PUT THAT IN THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON OUR PROPOSAL HERE.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE MOST RECENT NEW CONSTRUCTION EXAMPLES THAT I COULD FIND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE REVIEWED.
I THINK THIS WAS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
I ONLY PRESENT IT JUST BECAUSE IT HAD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THE DESIGN.
AND THAT'S NOT ONE OF YOURS? NO. NOPE.
THIS IS THE SAME HOUSE JUST SHOWN FROM THE SIDE.
SO THIS IS THIS IS A LITTLE STUDY THAT I DID TO SHOW THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE DESIGN AND THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING. SO WHAT I DID WAS FAIRLY SELECTIVELY I TOOK FROM 19TH AND SEALEY TO 13TH AND SEALEY AND I USED THE EXACT SAME CORNER OF EACH OF THOSE BLOCKS.
SO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EACH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, I TOOK A PHOTOGRAPH OF EACH OF THOSE HOUSES AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THOSE RELATIVELY QUICKLY. YOU'LL KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHERE I'M HEADED.
THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OUR LOT.
I THOUGHT THE SCALE OF THAT BUILDING IS MUCH GREATER THAN OURS, ACTUALLY.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE BLOCK FACE WHERE OUR LOT IS LOCATED.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE APARTMENT BUILDING TO THE LEFT OF THIS OF THIS HOUSE.
BUT THAT'S THE ONE JUST THEN TO THE EAST OF THE APARTMENT BUILDING.
AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE ONE FOR THE NEXT HOUSE TO THE EAST.
SO YOU GET A SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE BIG PORCHES AND THE SCALE OF THE BLOCK.
SO THEN THIS IS THIS IS 16TH STREET, RIGHT? AND SO THE POINT OF SHOWING THIS IS JUST THAT THAT CORNER HAS BEEN LOST.
RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS A CORNER LOT.
THESE CORNER LOTS ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT.
AND NOT TO SAY THAT I DON'T LIKE SIMPLE DESIGN AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ANYTHING LIKE THIS, BUT I DO THINK THAT SOME DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY ON THE CORNERS.
THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THEN WE HAVE 15TH AND SEALY, ANOTHER GREAT PORCH.
NEXT SLIDE. AND 13TH AND SEALY OR 14TH AND SEALY.
YEAH. NEXT SLIDE, IF THERE IS ONE.
AND OKAY, SO I PUT IN THIS SLIDE BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE GRAVES CURRENTLY LIVE.
THEY HAVE A MANSION ON BROADWAY, THIRD, 15TH AND BROADWAY.
CLEARLY THEY NEED A SMALLER HOUSE.
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WHAT'S THAT? CLEARLY THEY NEED A SMALLER HOUSE.THAT'S ENOUGH FOR THREE FAMILIES.
I JUST. I INCLUDED IT BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHAT THEIR TASTES MIGHT BE.
AND ALSO THAT THEY'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, BY MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS HOUSE AND THEY'LL MAKE ANOTHER ONE WITH THE NEXT ONE.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ALSO LET THE GRAVES SAY A WORD.
BUT LET ME TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FIRST.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ARCHITECT? I DO.
WHAT IS THE MATERIAL ON THE FRONT OF THOSE? LIKE, IS IT SIDING? IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE A HARDIE, IT WOULD BE A PAINTED SMOOTH HARDIE.
I DON'T THINK WE COULD GET A PIECE OF WOOD THAT WOULD HOLD UP THAT BIG.
SO I ACTUALLY WENT INTO THE FEMA MAPS AND SHOWED THAT 1628 SPECIFICALLY, OKAY.
OKAY. SO THE GROUND IS AT 5.6.
12 IS WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED BY ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. RIGHT ABOVE THAT.
SO BASICALLY, THAT'S SEVEN FEET.
I FIND THAT YOUR REQUEST IS ONLY NINE INCHES GREATER, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE 5.6FT, WHICH IS WHAT THE LOT IS ABOVE SEA LEVEL RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR 7.9, WHICH BRINGS YOU UP TO 13.5FT.
THEN YOU ADD IN THE 18IN, WHICH IS FOR THE JOIST AND THE FINISHED FIRST FLOOR.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET TO 15, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. THAT'S NOT A LOT OF HEADROOM FOR A GARAGE BECAUSE THE GARAGE DOOR, FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR THE GARAGE DOOR IS SEVEN FOOT TALL.
I JUST WANTED THAT FOR CLARIFICATION.
AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOTED IT'S 38FT.
THAT'S NOT TO THE EAVE LINE EITHER.
SO VISUALLY, IT'S NOT 38FT TALL WALL.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. DO THE APPLICANTS WISH TO TALK? YOU'RE WORN OUT WITH IT.
I MEAN, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED TO.
I'VE BEEN IN GALVESTON SINCE 2014.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE IN THE EAST END.
AND WE'RE SORT OF WE'RE VERY MOTIVATED AND EXCITED TO BUILD THIS NEW HOME.
SO WE'RE SEEKING YOUR ALL'S APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'D FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT ABOUT THE HOME, THEN, YOU KNOW, PLEASE ASK AND I'LL DO WHATEVER I CAN DO TO MAYBE HELP THIS PROCESS MOVE ALONG.
WHAT'S THAT? IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE.
OH, THANK YOU. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. IT'LL BE A BEAUTIFUL.
GREAT ADDITION TO THE EAST END.
WELL, WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST JUST SOME CONSTRUCTION COME THROUGH NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AND IN MY OPINION, AND PROBABLY ONLY MY OPINION, THEY ENDED UP LOOKING LIKE BEACH HOUSES.
AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN WHERE WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INFILLING INTO AN HISTORIC DISTRICT LOOKS SOMETHING MORE LIKE A BAY HOUSE INSTEAD OF A HOME THAT COMPLIMENTS THE OTHERS WITHOUT CREATING A FALSE SENSE OF HISTORY.
YEAH, WE BOTH HER AND CHRISTY AND MYSELF, WE PROBABLY LOOKED AT OVER A THOUSAND HOMES, YOU KNOW, BLUEPRINTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY FIT INTO THE AREA.
AND THAT'S JUST SO THE DESIGN THAT BRAX CAME UP WITH IS KIND OF A RESULT OF THAT RESEARCH.
AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT WAS TIME WELL SPENT.
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THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE OWNERS.THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS CASE? PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN.
HI, MY NAME IS PAUL LYLE AND I LIVE IN THE ADJACENT BLOCK 1715 BALL.
AND I JUST HAD A QUESTION OR TWO.
I LOVE THE SCALE OF THE HOUSE.
I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.
I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
WHY A METAL ROOF? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY METAL ROOFS IN OUR AREA RIGHT WITHIN THE COUPLE OF BLOCKS OF OUR FROM 18TH, 17TH, 16TH.
ONE AT 15TH. I MEAN, AT 14TH, THAT'S AT 14TH.
BUT THAT IS NOT THE PROMINENT STYLE.
ISN'T THEIR HOUSE A METAL ROOF AND THEY'RE AT 15TH AND SEALEY.
SO. MR. LYLE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENGAGE WITH YOU ON THAT AFTER THE MEETING OR THROUGH EMAIL.
AS DONNA WAS SAYING, YOU'RE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER, QUESTION AND ANSWER, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT UP WITH YOU LATER.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL LIKE OUR ALLEYS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING ANOTHER HOUSE ON THE ALLEY.
YEAH. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
AFTER MUCH THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION, WE REALIZE THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THIS CASE BASED ON ABOUT 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT CONDITIONS ON THAT.
HOWEVER, AND THOSE CONDITIONS ARE APPROPRIATE TO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND STATE MY MOTION.
I HAVE SO MANY AMENDMENTS TO THIS MOTION THAT I'VE MADE COPIES TO PASS OUT SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT SEEING, IF THEY'RE GOING TO SECOND MY MOTION, THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE ALL OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO ASK EVERYBODY TO WRITE THIS DOWN.
BUT I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALLOW THIS CASE TO GO FORWARD WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
I AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE ALLOW THE HEIGHT BECAUSE THE HEIGHT IS ONLY A NINE INCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE FLOODPLAIN MAPS ON FEMA RECOMMEND AND WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ASKING. SEVEN AND SEVEN NINE IS THE DIFFERENCE.
CONDITION B PORCH DETAIL SHALL BE OMITTED.
B1. I'M GOING TO ALLOW A SIX INCH ROUND PORCH POST, BUT OMIT THE TURN SPINDLES.
AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT I SEE LOTS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
Y'ALL, AND THEN EVERYONE CAN DISCUSS IT AS A GROUP BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT HASN'T BEEN SECONDED AND.
OKAY, SO, WELL, SOMETIMES I'VE GIVEN A MOTION, YOU GOT TO SAY WHY? SO I'M OKAY. I'LL FOLLOW YOUR LEAD BECAUSE YOU KNEW BETTER THAN I DID.
CONDITION C1 ALLOW THE ARCHES CONDITION D1 ALSO ALLOW TWO OVER TWO BUT OMIT THE TRANSOMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FRONT DOOR, WHICH I THINK ALSO IS SPECIFIED SIDELIGHTS.
I FIND THAT THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THAT DRIVEWAY, ALTHOUGH IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN OTHER CASES THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED, IT'S NOT AVERAGE FOR WHAT WE SEE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A 24 FOOT CURB CUT.
SO A STANDARD TWO CAR GARAGE WOULD BE 16FT WIDE.
SO WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS A STANDARD TWO CAR GARAGE AT 16 FOOT WIDE WITH AN 18 FOOT CURB CUT.
AND THAT BRINGS THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO SCALE WITH WHAT WE SEE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I'VE DRIVEN UP AND DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SAME THING I HAVE IN MY HOUSE.
ON THAT STREET THERE'S ACTUALLY A CURB CUT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A CURB CUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY.
THERE'S TWO. SO I'VE COUNTED FIVE CURB CUTS JUST IN THAT INTERSECTION.
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BUT WE'RE ALLOWING NO CURB CUTS.SO I'M GOING TO PASS THIS OUT SO THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE HOW I'VE AMENDED THE MOTION AND I CAN'T GET ONE TO HER. OKAY, DAVID, DO YOU WANT ONE? OKAY. THANK YOU, SARAH.
DOES THAT MOTION HAVE A SECOND? I THINK THEY'RE CONSIDERING.
OKAY. NOW I CAN HAVE MY DISCUSSION.
I THINK THE HEIGHT IS REASONABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, IF WE DON'T ALLOW NINE INCHES, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A GARAGE DOOR IN THERE, PERIOD.
BUT THAT'S EATEN UP EVERY SPOT OF GRASS THEY HAVE.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN LAY CLAIM TO THAT BEING A GALVESTON VERNACULAR.
WHAT WE DO SEE IN OUR HOMES ARE VERY MUCH WHAT THEY CALL STICK STYLE.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF BRACKETS, WE HAVE A LOT OF CORBELS, WE HAVE FANCIFUL RAILINGS.
I HAVE A COUPLE HERE IF YOU CAN SEE THEM TOO.
THIS IS IN THE HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS BUILT IN 2011.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT HAS ARCHES.
WE SEE THEM IN THE WEST END ON BEACH HOUSES.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN LAY CLAIM TO THAT AS BEING UNIQUE TO JUST US.
AND WE ALSO SEE A NEW CONSTRUCTION TURN POST.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THOSE ARE THE PARTS OF THE DESIGN OF THIS THAT KEEP THIS COMPLIMENTING THE EXISTING HOUSES AROUND IT, THE HISTORIC HOMES, WITHOUT CREATING A FALSE HISTORY.
AND THAT'S WHY I WENT WITH THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE THAT WE ALLOW ANOTHER NINE INCHES AND PEOPLE PULL THE CAR UP UNDER THEIR HOUSE, AND WE HAVE ALLOWED THAT BEFORE. IF YOU DON'T ALLOW IT, THEN CARS WOULD PARK END TO END AND THAT TAKES UP 28 TO 30FT OF CURB VERSUS 16FT OF CURB, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO GO UP UNDER THE HOUSE PLUS NINE INCHES.
I HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE GARAGE DOORS.
I FEEL LIKE I DROVE DOWN 16TH ON SUNDAY, 17TH ON SUNDAY AND TODAY.
AND THEN I LOOKED AT THE GOOGLE MAP PICTURES FROM LIKE THE PAST HOWEVER MANY YEARS.
THERE IS MAYBE ONE CAR PARKED ON THAT BLOCK ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
I DON'T THINK THAT A 24 FOOT EIGHT INCH CURB CUT WOULD BE AN ISSUE THERE AT ALL.
OKAY. WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE MOTION FAILS BEFORE YOU CAN MAKE THAT PROPOSAL.
SO THE MOTION IS FOR A 16 FOOT, 18 FOOT CURB CUT.
OKAY. SHE THINKS THIS IS REASONABLE.
I THOUGHT WE WERE IN DISCUSSION.
WE ARE BUT THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
OKAY, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON THE AMOUNT.
AND I THINK THE COMMISSIONER ALSO NODDING HER HEAD.
SHE MAY HAVE A COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF HER HAND WAS RAISED.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE DAIS, BUT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I THINK SHE DOES, YEAH.
YES. NANCY, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I JUST WONDERED HOW THE MOTION IS PRESENTED.
ADDRESSES THE WINDOW CONFIGURATION.
THE WINDOW CONFIGURATION IN THIS MOTION.
THE ONLY THING THAT WAS ALLOWED WAS A ONE OVER ONE.
YES, I KNOW WE SEE THEM ON HISTORIC HOMES.
BUT HERE AGAIN, THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 2011 WITH BRAND NEW TWO OVER TWO WINDOWS.
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SO I THINK BY OMITTING THE TRANSOMS AND GIVING THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY.NO TRANSOMS. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? HELLO? ALL RIGHT.
I GUESS WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR? OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WE ONLY HAVE THREE ALL AGAINST.
SOMEBODY WANT TO POINT OUT ANOTHER MOTION? SARAH, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANOTHER MOTION? I CAN'T REMEMBER. [INAUDIBLE] QUORUM.
WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST FOUR. CORRECT.
CASE 23LC-036 WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT THE HEIGHT IS ALLOWED, THE SIX INCH PORCH POSTS ARE ALLOWED, BUT THE TURN SPINDLES SHOULD BE JUST THE BASIC SQUARE ONES.
THE WINDOWS ARE I AGREE WITH CONNIE.
I HAVE THE GARAGE AND THE CURB CUT AS PRESENTED.
OKAY. SO THAT MEANS IT'S GOING TO BE 24 CURB CUT, 24 INCH CURB CUT AND THE TWO GARAGE DOORS.
BUT BASICALLY, WE'VE MODIFIED EVERYTHING DOWN.
SOMEWHERE IN HERE IS MY AGENDA THAT'S BURIED.
OKAY, THAT'S IT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS THEY WISH TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME? ONE ITEM YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GIVEN THEM THE BAD NEWS.
[LAUGHTER] TOLD SARAH AND SHE STARTED CLAPPING.
HEY, THESE GUYS WERE MAKING FUNERAL ARRANGEMENTS I UNDERSTAND. I TELL YOU, THEY'RE NOT HAPPY AT ALL.
THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHOSE TERMS WERE COMING TO AN END.
I ASKED JANELLE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
AND IT TURNS OUT MS. PATTERSON IS STILL WITH US UNTIL.
SHE WAS TRYING TO GET OUT OF HERE, BUT SHE HER TERM ENDS SEPTEMBER OF 2024.
IT'S A SET UP THIS YEAR. IT'S A SET UP.
WE DO HAVE I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT TWO COMMISSIONERS WHOSE TERMS ARE UP FOR RENEWAL.
HE WAS APPOINTED TO A UNEXPIRED TERM.
BUT THIS WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF A REGULAR TERM THIS OCTOBER IF HE'S SO INCLINED TO REAPPLY.
NANCY. WHAT'S THAT? OH, IT'S JULIE. THANK YOU.
I THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP THEN.
I'M NOT SURE IF SHE WAS APPOINTED ON A REGULAR TERM OR.
SHE MUST HAVE BEEN ON UNEXPIRED AS WELL BECAUSE SHE HASN'T TERMED OUT.
WE'LL BE CONSIDERING THEM ALL IN SEPTEMBER.
BUT YOU'RE NOT OFF THE HOOK YET.
THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. [LAUGHTER] OKAY.
AND WHEN WE STILL HAVE ELECTIONS NEXT MEETING, OCTOBER.
THEN THE OCTOBER. YES BY SEPTEMBER.
RIGHT. OR DO WE? THE FIRST MEETING OF OCTOBER.
OKAY. YOU WILL ELECT A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
OKAY. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
AND SO OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IN SEPTEMBER 18TH.
45 MINUTES. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.