Jul 31, 2023 Council Workshop

ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JIMMY.

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[1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE TODAY.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING COMING UP.

UM, I WANTED TO WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE.

OF COURSE. COUNCIL NOW.

NICE TO SEE YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE.

IT'S PART OF THE FAMILY NOW.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE MEETING EVERY OTHER DAY.

IT SEEMS LIKE COUNCIL.

AND I WANT TO WELCOME THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS.

WHAT A PLEASURE HAVING ALL OF YOU HERE.

AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE NEW APPOINTEES.

THAT'S VERY, VERY.

I KNOW THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES THAT AND COUNCIL IS LOOKING FORWARD TO A WONDERFUL, PRODUCTIVE YEAR COMING UP WITH THE PARK BOARD.

WHAT WE'LL DO, I'LL OPEN OUR COUNCIL MEETING.

THEN I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHAIRMAN HARDCASTLE THERE WITH THE PARK BOARD TO OPEN THE PARK BOARD MEETING.

AND THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA ITSELF.

WE ARE BEING TELEVISED, SO YOU'RE ON VIDEO AND AUDIO ON CHANNEL 16 THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY HERE, AND I WANTED TO WELCOME EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS MEETING THIS MORNING.

IT IS 9:01 A.M.

I'M GOING TO OFFICIALLY CALL THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO ORDER FOR MONDAY, JULY 31ST.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? JANELLE MAYOR BROWN PRESENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM COLLINS PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER LOUIS HAPPILY PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. FINKLEY PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER.

BOUVIER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROBB PRESENT.

VERY GOOD. SORRY.

CHAIRMAN HARDCASTLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO BRING THE JOINT MEETING WITH CITY GALVESTON CITY COUNCIL, PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES WITH THE CITY OF GALVESTON ON TO ORDER ON MONDAY, JULY 31ST AT 9 A.M.

AT GALVESTON CITY HALL AND CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? YES, SIR. JASON HARDCASTLE HERE.

KIMBERLY GUIDO, JASON WORTHEN, MICHAEL BOUVIER HERE, BOB BULLWINKLE HERE.

BILL CLEMENT, SANDRA GODWIN HERE, GERALD WILSON HERE.

VERY GOOD. I THINK BARRY WILLEY IS TRAVELING, SO HE'S NOT PRESENT THIS MORNING.

SO VERY GOOD.

BEFORE WE START, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS.

I WANT TO SAY AGAIN HOW WE APPRECIATE HERE AT THE CITY, ALL OF THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS AND TRUSTEES AND STAFF BEING HERE THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE PURPOSE OF THESE JOINT MEETINGS IS, IN MY MIND, TWOFOLD.

ONE IS TO HAVE THE PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DISCUSS MUTUAL TOPICS AND BRING OUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER ON HOW WE FEEL WE MAY WANT TO PROCEED WITH TOPICS THAT INVOLVE THE CITY AND THE PARK BOARD FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

SECONDLY, THESE DISCUSSIONS WILL SERVE AS A GUIDANCE FOR PARK BOARD STAFF MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF MEMBERS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF GUIDING THEM AS THEY GO THROUGH THEIR DISCUSSIONS AND SO FORTH, CONCERNING MANY OF THE TOPICS THAT WE'LL BE SEEING ON OUR AGENDAS HERE AT THE CITY AND AT THE PARK BOARD.

THESE MEETINGS, IN TALKING WITH YOUR CHAIRPERSON, JASON HARDCASTLE, THESE WILL BE REGULAR MEETINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A ONE AND DONE.

THIS WILL BE A MEETING THAT WILL HAVE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR PERIODICALLY TO MAINTAIN OUR COMMUNICATION ON TOPICS AND THE AGENDA THAT WE ARE UNDER TODAY.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME THOUGHTS THIS AGENDA WAS PUT TOGETHER AFTER A SERIES OF MANY MEETINGS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH CHAIRMAN HARDCASTLE, WITH MYSELF, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BOUVIER, YOUR LIAISON TO COUNCIL, AND WITH KIMBERLY, KIMBERLY DANESE EXCUSE ME, WITH THE PARK BOARD AND WITH BRIAN, OF COURSE, MAXWELL, OUR CITY MANAGER HERE AT THE CITY.

THAT IS WHAT HAS THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BROUGHT ABOUT THE AGENDA THAT WILL BE WORKING UNDER THIS MORNING, SAYING THAT.

LET'S MOVE RIGHT AHEAD WITH OUR DISCUSSIONS.

[3.A.1. Update And Discussion Of The Following (Bouvier]

ONE STUART BEACH AND BEACH PATROL FACILITIES, INCLUDING THE PAYMENT PROCESS FOR NEW TEMPORARY TRAILERS FOR BEACH PATROL, TWO DEPOSIT OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, THREE PARK BOARD BUDGET REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS AND.

FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN APPROVED APPROVAL PROCESS.

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AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR MUTUAL DISCUSSION.

THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC IS COUNCIL MEMBER BOUVIER.

MIKE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT STUART BEACH AND THE BEACH PATROL FACILITIES, THE TEMPORARY FACILITIES, INCLUDING THE PAYMENT PROCESS FOR NEW TEMPORARY TRAILERS FOR THE BEACH PATROL.

ON THE 27TH, GALVESTON CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE ORDINANCE LINE 11 G TWO FOR THE PARK BOARD TO PROCEED TO THE PROCUREMENT OF THE TEMPORARY TRAILERS.

UM, IT I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR THIS WAS, DOES THE PARK BOARD READY FOR THE PROCUREMENT AND THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE? SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE READY FOR PROCUREMENT AND THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO MAKE THE PURCHASES.

AND I DO HAVE BRYSON HERE WHO CAN COME UP AND CLARIFY IF I SHARE ANYTHING INCORRECT.

I'M HAPPY TO DEFER WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPECIFICS OF THE FINANCIALS.

BUT YES, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SLIGHT HOLDUP IN THAT IF THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT WITH PROCUREMENT ON STUART BEACH WITH THE WAY THAT THE STUART BEACH DEVELOPMENT RESOLUTION WAS, IS THAT WE HAD TO WAIT FOR CITY COUNCIL TO OFFICIALLY SIGN OFF ON IT. BUT WE DID CONDITIONALLY APPROVE IT AT OUR MEETING IN JUNE, I BELIEVE, TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THOSE PURCHASES AS SOON AS WE WERE PROVIDED DIRECTION BY CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. MY OTHER QUESTION IS, IS ON THE 27TH, WE ALSO APPROVED THE TEMPORARY FACILITY.

WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS CALLED? LIKE THE SEWER, THE SITE? THE SITE? THE SITE UTILITIES WHERE I MEAN, SCHEDULE WISE, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THE SCHEDULE ON THAT? AND DUDLEY, WOULD YOU COME ON UP IF YOU'D LIKE.

WE HAVE A CHAIR UP HERE, DUDLEY AND SOMEONE THAT'S PLUGGED IN IN MIND.

THE LARGE THE WRONG THING.

IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, DUDLEY, AND KIND OF LET EVERYBODY KNOW YOUR TITLE HERE AT THE CITY, I'M DUDLEY ANDERSON, THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL PROJECT MANAGER.

COUNCIL APPROVED THE PROPOSAL FROM AN ENGINEER TO DO THE SITE WORK, WHICH IS MORE THAN JUST UTILITIES.

BUT THAT'S THE BASIC FIRST NEED FOR THE STUART BEACH PARK.

THE PARK BOARD, GALVESTON BEACH PATROL, TEMPORARY FACILITIES.

THE ENGINEERS APPROVED CONTRACT AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING IT SIGNED.

AND HE'LL START NEXT WEEK.

SO IT SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG.

WE'LL HAVE THAT DONE LONG BEFORE WE GET THE TEMPORARY TRAILERS.

OKAY. WITH THE LEAD TIME ON THOSE TRAILERS, THAT'LL BE DONE PLENTY OF TIME.

I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WE'RE DOING THE PROCUREMENT, YOU'RE DOING THE ENGINEERING AND WE'RE DOING THE PROCUREMENT, AND THEN THEY'LL BE FORWARDING THE FUNDS.

NO, NO, THIS ISN'T BEING PAID FOR BY TAX.

NO, IT IS BEING PAID FOR BY THE HOT TAX.

BUT I BELIEVE THE PARK BOARD IS DOING THE PROCUREMENT OF THE TRAILERS.

THEY'RE BUYING THE TRAILERS. WE WENT AHEAD AND USED THE ENGINEERING.

OKAY. WE WERE.

WELL, WE ARE WE'VE PROCURED THE ENGINEER.

OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT PROCURING THE TRAILERS.

NO, NO. OKAY.

NO, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

I HEARD YOU BOTH SAY YOU WERE BICKERING, AND IT'S LIKE WE DON'T NEED TWO SETS OF TRAILERS.

YEAH, IT'S LIKE THIS.

YES. SO THEN MY.

MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD GO BACK TO CHAIR CHAIRMAN HARDCASTLE.

UM, WITH THE PROCUREMENT OF THE TRAILERS, ARE WE IN A GOOD TIME FRAME TO RECEIVE THOSE IN TIME FOR NEXT SEASON? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE ARE I'LL DEFER TO KIMBERLY ON THIS SINCE IT'S A BOARD PROCESS.

SOME OF THE TRAILERS ARE GOING TO BE TRAILERS THAT ARE IN STOCK THAT WE CAN JUST PULL OFF THE LOT.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME THAT ARE SPECIAL ORDER AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE'LL HAVE THEM IN TIME FOR APRIL.

BUT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HOPE AND YOU PRAY AND WE'LL SEE.

BUT THE INTENT OF MOVING THIS FORWARD WAS TO GET THEM THERE BY SPRING BREAK.

THE SPECIALTY TRAILER IS THE ONE WITH THE LOOKOUT AND THAT ONE THAT HAS A LONGER LEAD TIME.

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I'M ENVISIONING PETER WITH A BEACH CHAIR AND AN UMBRELLA.

OH, NO. DO WE HAVE A PLAN ON? GOD FORBID IF THERE WAS A WEATHER EVENT THAT WE NEEDED TO REMOVE THEM NEXT YEAR.

THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE.

INCLUDED IN BEACH PATROL'S PLANS THIS NEXT YEAR IS TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PULL THOSE OFF OF THE BEACH AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE A DEDICATED VEHICLE.

WHERE WOULD WE STORE THEM? IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF STORM THAT WE HAVE COMING IN.

WE WE'D EITHER STORE THEM SOMEWHERE HERE ON THE ISLAND IF WE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD FIND A LOCATION FOR THEM THAT WAS HIGH ENOUGH.

IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT, WE WOULD TAKE THEM OFF THE ISLAND.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

COUNCILMAN CHAIRMAN HARDCASTLE, YOU MADE MENTION THAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE READY TO MAKE PURCHASE, THAT THE PARK BOARD CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THIS, BUT YOU NEEDED DIRECTION BY CITY COUNCIL. SPECIFICALLY, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WHAT WE RECEIVED AT YOUR LAST MEETING WHEN THERE WAS AN APPROVAL OF THE PARK BOARD TO PURCHASE THE TRAILERS.

SO WE'RE NO LONGER WAITING ON THAT.

WE WE WAITED.

HAD TO WAIT A COUPLE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE YOU MADE THAT STATEMENT.

OKAY. SO YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM US IN ORDER TO PURCHASE THE TRAILERS.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DO NOT.

I KNOW THAT KIMBERLY AND BRIAN HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY ON THIS AS WELL BEHIND THE SCENES.

SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE ARE READY TO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES.

I ANTICIPATE WE'LL PULL THE TRIGGER ON THE PURCHASE THIS WEEK.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, WE APPROVED THAT AT OUR JULY 27TH.

I THOUGHT WE DID. I JUST WANTED TO GET A CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM.

WELCOME. MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, DO WE NEED A CONTINGENCY PLAN IF THAT CUSTOMIZED TRAILER DOESN'T COME IN? IS THAT A IS THAT A A VITAL PART OF THIS BEACH? IF SO, THEN DO WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY PLAN? SURE. THERE IS NOT A CONTINGENCY PLAN AS I KNOW IT.

IT IS A VITAL COMPONENT OF BEACH PATROL BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE THEIR LOOKOUT STATION FOR STEWART BEACH, WHICH IS OUR MOST POPULAR BEACH.

THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND, THOUGH, THAT CHIEF DAVIS IS THINKING ABOUT THAT.

AND WE'LL HAVE A CONTINGENCY PLAN IN PLACE BEFORE WE HIT THE SPRING.

TALLER LIFEGUARDS.

YES. FLATTERS, LADDERS, ALL THE THINGS.

OKAY. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER ITEMS ON THAT ONE PART.

I GUESS I'D OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT TOPIC.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE QUESTIONS AND THINGS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT TOPIC THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE DEMOLITION OF STEWART BEACH PAVILION ON THAT, WHERE ARE WE? DUDLEY ON A TIMELINE ON THAT? AND WHAT'S OUR STATUS? WE WILL START DEMOLISHING IT WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE TEMPORARY FACILITIES GOING TO MAKE SCHEDULE.

OKAY. THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE READY.

WE CAN PUT THEM OUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

BUT THE TEMPORARY NEED TO BE UP AND RUNNING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY START TEARING DOWN WHAT THEY'RE SITTING IN NOW.

OKAY, WE'RE SHOOTING.

WHAT'S OUR TIMELINE? THAT'S APPROXIMATE.

WE'RE SHOOTING FOR THE DEMOLITION.

I'M LOOKING HOPEFULLY IN NOVEMBER TO START NOVEMBER.

THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S DEPENDENT UPON.

WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE TRAILERS BY NOVEMBER, BUT WE WILL HAVE BUILD DATES AND LEAD TIMES ON THEM.

BY THEN WE HAD COUNCILWOMAN FINCHLEY AND THEN COUNCILMAN COLLINS.

NO, MINE'S A LARGER QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON TEARING IT DOWN, CLEARING THE SPACE, AND WHAT'S THE DISPOSITION OF THE SPACE WHEN WE'RE DONE? IT'LL TAKE ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO RESTORE THE BEACH.

SO. SO FROM IF WE START A THEORETICAL NOVEMBER 1ST, END OF THE YEAR.

SO WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE BEACH HAVE SAND.

ANYWAY, THAT'S MY HOPE.

GOOD. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC? SO, CHAIRMAN HARDCASTLE, CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW THESE TWO PROJECTS ONE, THE TEMPORARY TRAILERS AND THEN THE DEMOLITION OF STEWART BEACH PAVILION ARE A PART OF YOUR OVERALL MASTER PLAN FOR STEWART BEACH AS WELL AS THE.

DEVELOPMENT RFC THAT WAS SENT OUT PREVIOUSLY AND THE STATUS OF THAT.

SO THIS IS, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SEPARATE.

THIS IS AN INITIAL STAGE TO TWO WITH THE PRIORITY PLACED ON CITY STAFF TO TEAR DOWN THE PAVILION BACK IN APRIL.

OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST PRIORITIES WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IS TO FIND SOMEWHERE FOR BEACH PATROL AT THAT POINT.

AND I KNOW THAT FROM AN OVERALL PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT AWARE HOW THAT FITS INTO THE OVERALL STEWART BEACH PLAN.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A DIFFERENT TASK, SEPARATE FROM EVERYTHING ELSE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT FOR ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS. OKAY.

WE'LL GO TO NUMBER TWO.

THAT IS THE DEPOSIT OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

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AND THEN ALSO.

YEAH, SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT LIKE THERE.

I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF PARK BOARD HAS THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE CHANGING THE THE DEPOSITS OF THESE HOT INTO DIRECTLY INTO THE CITY'S DEPOSITORY AND KIND OF STREAMLINING A LITTLE BIT, TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF BURDEN OFF OF YOU SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO TRANSFER BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.

YES. I THINK THAT THAT IDEALLY, ESPECIALLY AS SOMEONE INVOLVED IN THE FINANCIAL SECTOR, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND THE PARK BOARD HAS SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS AND TRANSFERS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN ACCOUNTS AS MUCH AS WE EFFICIENTLY CAN, THAT WAY THAT IT'S EASIER TO TRACK AND JUST REDUCING RISK EVEN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BY MINIMIZING THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS BACK AND FORTH WHEN IT COMES FROM COLLECTIONS TO THE FULL TRANSFER TO THE REALLOCATION BACK.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE PARK BOARD AND CITY STAFF WORK TOGETHER TO SEE IF WE CAN REDUCE THOSE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS AND MAYBE IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE EFFICIENCIES THERE AS WELL.

RIGHT. AND THEN THAT WOULD ALSO GO THE OTHER WAY, TOO, ONCE THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, MAYBE REDUCING FROM THE QUARTERLY DEPOSITS BACK TO THE PARK BOARD, WE COULD EITHER DO IT IN A IN A 1 OR 2 PROCESS TO REDUCE THAT BACK.

THAT WOULD BE OUTSTANDING, I THINK.

AND THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE PREPARED REMARKS THAT I HAD FOR THESE OTHER TOPICS, THREE AND FOUR.

BUT IF WE COULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF APPROVALS, NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO REDUCE TRANSPARENCY, JUST BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN PREPARING BUDGET REQUESTS AND BUDGET ALLOCATIONS.

AND WE WOULD WELCOME SEMIANNUAL APPROVALS, ANNUAL APPROVALS, WHATEVER SUITS, COUNSEL.

BUT THE THE QUARTERLY PROCESS, THE WAY IT LAYS OUT NOW IS THAT OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE APPROVES A BUDGET.

THEN IT GOES ON TO THE TRUSTEES, THEN IT COMES OVER TO CITY HALL.

AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY NEED TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE'RE MAKING, IT GOES BACK TO THE TRUSTEES AND THEN WE'RE WE'RE UP AGAINST IT BECAUSE THAT'S THE END OF THE QUARTER AS WELL.

SO I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE CONTENT WITH SEMIANNUAL APPROVAL TO START TO SEE IF THAT WORKS AND THEN MAYBE IN THE FUTURE LOOK AND SEE IF ANNUAL APPROVAL WORKS AGAIN.

YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO.

I TOTALLY AGREE. WE NEED TO REDUCE THE NUMBER.

WE JUST NEED TO ALIGN IT WITH THE CASH FLOW BECAUSE THEIR CASH FLOWS ARE DIFFERENT THAN OURS.

I GET ALL MY TAX MONEY AT A CERTAIN TIME AND I KNOW WHEN I GET MY SALES TAX MONEY, YOUR FLOWS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

AS LONG AS WE ALIGN IT WITH THE CASH FLOWS.

I HAVE NO NO PROBLEM WITH REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF THAT.

OKAY? IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THEM.

IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US.

SO I STILL WOULD LIKE TO KEEP QUARTERLY REVIEWS GOING.

SURE. YEAH, WE DO QUARTERLY BUDGET UPDATES HERE, SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE EITHER, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE MAY BE DOING THIS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

IT COULD BE IN A CONSTANT AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE CAN GIVE REVIEWS OF THE BUDGET AND I WOULD SUPPORT COUNCILMAN BOUVIER'S CONCERNS OR COMMENTS ON THAT.

BRIAN, IF WE CAN REDUCE THE THE FUNDING CYCLES ON THAT TO COME DOWN TO 1 OR 2 A YEAR.

BRIAN YES, SIR.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE ON OUR END? YEAH. YOU KNOW, MIKE'S ALREADY ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT, SO NOT AN ISSUE.

DAVID I THINK STATE LAW CONTEMPLATES THE QUARTERLY REPORTING, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

IF WE COULD REDUCE THE THE LOOP ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, GET A BETTER GRIP ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, WHAT OUR TIMELINES ARE, AND GET GET THOSE APPROVED SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE WE'VE ALL HAD THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN IN THAT LOOP WHERE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN WHEN OUR WHEN OUR MEETINGS ARE NOT IN SYNC, YOU KNOW THAT.

TO PROVE SOMETHING BEFORE THE COUNCIL DOES.

OR VICE VERSA.

SO REDUCING THE CYCLE TIMES ON THOSE OR THE NUMBER OF CYCLES I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO US ALL.

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BUT THE CIP PROCESS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN FUNDING THEIR BUDGET PROCESS.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. AND SO BECAUSE THE CIP PROCESS AND LET'S WAIT TILL WE GET TO THAT BECAUSE I WAS JUST MAKING SURE I WAS TRYING TO CLOSE OUT THE PREVIOUS ITEM WHICH WAS RELATED TO THE PARK BOARD BUDGET REVIEW.

AND THIS, THIS HOTEL OCCUPANCY.

YEAH. THIS I THINK WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO HERE.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THE FUNDING MECHANISM TO THE PARK BOARD.

INSTEAD OF RECEIVING FUNDS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, THEY WOULD RECEIVE FUNDS ON A SEMIANNUAL OR ANNUAL BASIS.

YES, BILL. YOU KNOW, MAYOR, WE GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PARK BOARD WHERE WE WHERE WE DO THEM ON A QUARTERLY OR OTHER FREQUENCY, BUT WE DO REVIEW THEM ANNUALLY.

AND I THINK THE IN-DEPTH REVIEW ANNUALLY AT THE END COULD PROVIDE THE OVERSIGHT YOU NEED AS LONG AS YOU GET QUARTERLY UPDATES AND FREE UP SOME TIME FOR BOTH MIKE STAFF AND BRYSON STAFF TO TO DO THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS AND THAT'S MANAGING THE MONEY, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT IN THIS DAY AND AGE. I LIKE THAT IDEA.

YEAH, BY ALL MEANS.

VERY GOOD, MIKE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CONCERNS ON THAT TOPIC? OKAY. NUMBER THREE, PARK BOARD BUDGET REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS.

SO THE PARK BOARD HAS APPROVED THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR AND HAS PROVIDED THE BUDGET TO THE CITY AS OF FRIDAY. THEY HAD RECEIVED IT, I THINK IT WAS LATER ON THE AFTERNOON.

I PROBABLY PROBABLY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO OPEN IT.

UM, UPON REVIEW OF THAT AND THE, THE OR NOT THE DEMONSTRATION, BUT THE PRESENTATION OF THAT BY BRYSON, THE PARK BOARD HAS TAKEN THE ADVICE OF THE CITY TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT AND THE WAY THAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE THE BUDGET.

I BELIEVE BRIAN HAS SEEN ON THE CIP LIST AND SOME OTHER DEMONSTRATIONS THAT BRYSON AND HIS CREW HAVE TAKEN THE CITY'S TEMPLATES AND USE THEM IN THE BUDGET.

SO I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WILL BE VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT THEY SEE WITH THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.

AS FAR AS TRANSPARENCY, AS FAR AS INNER TRANSFER FUNDS, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE THE WAY THE CITY PRESENTS THEIRS.

SO WE HAVE UNIFORMITY NOW BETWEEN THE PARK BOARD AND THE CITY, AND SO DO WE HAVE ANY I KNOW WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. NO.

BUT THIS IS IF I MAY.

YEAH, GO AHEAD. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE WE NEED TO BE SURE OF OUR CYCLE TIMES, BECAUSE IF PARK BOARD APPROVES A BUDGET IN JULY, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE FORTUNATE IN THAT WE HAVE GENERALLY TWO MEETINGS IN AUGUST, TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT YOU KNOW BETTER.

WE SEE IT STAFF'S CONCERNS OR INPUT AT THE FIRST ONE SO THAT WE'RE NOT LEFT UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST APPROVING OR MAKING CHANGES OR PUSH BACK ON THE BUDGET OR WHATEVER.

SO THE PARK BOARD ISN'T PUSHED INTO SEPTEMBER TO GET A FINAL BUDGET APPROVED.

YOU KNOW THAT WE WOULD ALL BE BETTER OFF IF THAT ENTIRE PROCESS COULD BE DONE BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST SO THAT WE'RE NOT LEFT THAT LAST MONTH OF THE FISCAL YEAR SCRAMBLING TO TO ADJUST. OKAY.

AND DID WE MEET THE DEADLINE TO PRESENT THE BUDGET TO THE CITY? YEAH. WE HAD ASKED YOU TO GET IT BY THE END OF JULY AND WE GOT IT.

SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THE PROCESS ITSELF, FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IT, IT WILL COME TO CITY STAFF.

CITY STAFF WILL REVIEW THE BUDGET.

THEY'LL WORK WITH THE PARK BOARD AND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE, THEN WHAT THEY'LL DO IS BRING THAT BUDGET TO COUNCIL AND WE'LL CONSIDER THAT BUDGET FOR APPROVAL AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING OUR OWN BUDGET.

IT HERE AT THE CITY.

IT'LL FOLLOW KIND OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THEN THROUGH THAT WE'LL BE WE'RE ON THE SAME FISCAL YEAR TYPE SITUATION.

SO WE'LL BE APPROVING THAT AS WE GO THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS HERE AT THE CITY ALSO.

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AND I THINK IF YOU EXAMINE THE DETAIL OF THAT VERY CLOSELY, I'M LOOKING AT ONE HERE FOR SEAWOLF PARK, WHERE IT DETAILS LICENSE AND PERMITS DOWN TO AN ALARM PERMIT FOR $75 AND A DUMPSTER FEE FOR 25, WHICH IN TERMS OF OVERSIGHT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GET MUCH MORE DETAIL THAN THAT.

SO I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WHAT BRYCE HAS GIVEN YOU, AT LEAST AND I'M FAIRLY NEW TO THIS AND I DEVELOPED A GOOD PICTURE OF IT VERY EARLY ON BECAUSE OF WHAT HE AND HIS STAFF HAVE DONE AND THE INCREDIBLE JOB THEY DID FOR US.

SO I HOPE THIS WILL, YOU KNOW, ALSO CUT DOWN ON SOME OF DAVID'S CONCERNS ABOUT CYCLE TIME AND ALLOW IT TO GET PROCESSED MUCH MORE EASILY AND SPEEDILY THAN IT HAS PERHAPS IN THE PAST, CORRECT? BRIAN YEAH. AND MAYOR, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WHEN I MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BOUVIER IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE HAVING THE MOST DIFFICULTY WITH WAS TRYING TO TRACK, TRACK THE DOLLAR BECAUSE THERE'S TRANSFERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT IT YET, BUT MIKE SAYS THAT BRYSON HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF SHOWING THAT IN THE BUDGET, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT JUST HELPS.

IT NEEDS TO BE AS EASY FOR THE NOT JUST FOR US BUT FOR THE AVERAGE READER OF THE CITY TO SEE IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUBLISH IT AS WELL.

SO THAT WAY THEY UNDERSTAND IT.

SO I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE THERE.

MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, THERE IS A SPECIFIC CALL OUT IN THE NEW BUDGET FOR SPECIFICALLY TO TRANSFERS TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, AS WELL AS WITHIN EACH INDIVIDUAL BUDGET, THERE'S A PAGE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR, OH, THAT'S GREAT.

OKAY. AND THE OTHER AND OBVIOUSLY HADN'T SLEPT IN A WHILE.

SO THIS IS THE OTHER THING THAT HE DID AND IT WAS A CONCERN LAST TIME IS HE BROKE OUT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES BETWEEN WHAT IS HOT AND WHAT IS NOT. SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO EASILY SEE THE DOLLAR SPENT OR THE DOLLARS THAT ARE THERE FOR HOT AND WHAT IS NOT RESTRICTED.

SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER BIG THING THAT WAS ASKED FOR.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, TO TOUCH ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.

I THINK THE ONE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITH SOME OF THE SINCE IT IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN, THERE IS SOME FLUIDITY THAT'S EXPECTED IN THERE AT OUR FUTURE MEETINGS.

IF THERE IS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING INSIDE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, IF WE COULD JUST SET A FOLLOW UP DATE SO THAT THERE'S NOTHING LINGERS AND SLIPS BETWEEN THE CRACKS THAT WE COULD HAVE SET, TIMES THAT WE DO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE IN QUESTION.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL.

AND THEN I THINK, KIMBERLY, YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

I'LL ECHO YOUR COMMENT TO SAY SPECIFICALLY TO THE PARKS, WHENEVER WE'RE DOING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE OFF SEASON IS WHEN IT'S BEST FOR US AS AN INSTITUTION.

SO THE FASTER THAT WE HAVE FEEDBACK ON THAT, THE QUICKER WE CAN EXECUTE ON THOSE PROJECTS, THE BETTER IT'S GOING TO BE FOR TOURISM AND DOLLARS COMING INTO THE PARK IN THE SUMMER AND SPRING.

BUT I DID WANT TO NOTE TO COUNCIL THAT A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE CIP THAT COMES FORWARD ARE ITEMS THAT ARE A CONTINUATION OF THE CURRENT FY WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED.

SO A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS, WITH VERY RARE EXCEPTION, ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUATION OF CURRENT EXISTING PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL GAVE APPROVAL ON.

AND GIVEN THE FORMAT THAT'S THE SAME AS OURS, IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE VERY USED TO SEEING AND IT'S GOING TO BE EASY TO TRACK AND IT ACTUALLY GIVES A LOOK BACK AND A LOOK FORWARD.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO BE VERY EASY TO TRACK.

COUNCILMAN BOUVIER HAS SENT TO COUNCIL THE CIP AND ALL THE BACKGROUND DATA ON THAT ABOUT A WEEK AGO DIDN'T YOU MIGHT RIGHT AND I AND I HAVE A BY THE END OF THE DAY TODAY I'LL SEND THE REVISED ONE OUT THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE FUNDING OF WHAT IS BEING FUNDED OR HOW IT'S BEING FUNDED.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT.

ON THE LAST ONE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT COLUMN AND I'LL PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE THAT ONE TOO.

IT'S THE SAME LIST JUST SHOWS THE FUNDING.

AND THEN ON THAT NOTE OF HAVING A FOLLOW UP DATE WHERE WE CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE WE DON'T LOSE TRACK OF ANYTHING.

THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS ON THERE THAT ARE FROM FUNDING AND I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO KNOCK THOSE OUT AND TO GET RID OF THE POST TRAUMATIC STRESS CAUSED BY IK AND EVERYTHING.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO WERE HERE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE PRIORITIZED FOR APPROVAL AND IMPLEMENTATION.

SOUNDS GOOD, DAVID.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN HARDCASTLE JUST KIND OF A QUESTION.

SO YOUR YOUR CIP IS APPROVED ON A FIVE YEAR BASIS, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT.

OH, OKAY.

AND SO GO AHEAD.

WELL, NO, IT ISN'T THE THE FIVE YEAR CIP.

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THE FIVE YEAR CIP IS PRESENTED AS A PICTURE.

THIS IS A WISH LIST.

THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE.

THE CIP IS PRESENTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND THE PROJECTS THEN ARE HANDLED ANNUALLY UNDER THAT.

THAT'S FINE. YEAH.

SO YOU GIVE EVERY YEAR YOU'RE GIVING AN UPDATE ON YOUR CIP.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

AND MUCH LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, A PLAN IS SOMETHING YOU DEVIATE FROM.

SURE, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

SORRY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS MISSING FROM THE CIP AS WELL AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS STILL ON THERE FROM THE CIP OR ANY REFERENCE TO THE BEACH NOURISHMENT FROM SEVEN MILE ROAD TO 13 MILE ROAD.

AND ALSO IT STILL HAS A BUDDY FOR BABES BEACH, WHICH IT IS THE GLOWS AND THE CITY'S GOALS AS WELL AS THE CORE IS COMING ALONG TO MOVE THAT SAND FURTHER WEST.

SO WHY ARE WE STILL BUDGETING THIS MONEY UNDER THE BEACH? AND WHY DON'T WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE BIG NOURISHMENT WHICH THE GLOW IS PLANNING FOR 2025? THEY'VE GOT THE IMPRESSION, IF I MAY, I GOT THE IMPRESSION IN OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE GLOW THE OTHER DAY THAT 25 WAS PRETTY MUCH SET ON THE END OF BEACH 91ST IN THE CIP BUDGET.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THE CYCLE 23 BUDDY WHICH WE HAVE HAPPENING THIS YEAR.

SO THAT THAT YOU'LL SEE IN GOING OUT TO 25, 26 CYCLE 25 WE DON'T HAVE IN THERE YET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY AGREED UPON.

WELL YOU HAVE BABES BEACH BUDDY 25,000.

I MEAN 20, 25 MILLION.

AND IT SAYS IT SAYS CYCLE 25.

IT SAYS BABES BEACH BUDDY.

I MEAN I BELIEVE THAT CYCLE 23 THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE THAT'S A HOLDOVER FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.

NO, IT'S ON 25.

IT'S UNDER 25 AND 26.

I HAVE YOUR CIP RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

CHERYL CAN SPEAK TO THAT. YO, COME ON UP.

HAVE A SEAT, IF YOU WOULD.

WE JUST MISSED YOUR PRETTY FACE.

HI. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CHERYL.

ROGER. I AM THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE GALVESTON PARK BOARD TO ADDRESS MARIE'S QUESTIONS.

WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE SHIP, THE NOURISHED BEACH SHIP.

YOU'LL SEE BABES BEACH BUDDY.

CYCLE TWO IN NEXT F.Y.

THAT $6 MILLION VALUE IS THE REMAINDER OF WHAT WE WILL BE SPENDING FOR TALKING ABOUT 125 AND 26.

THERE'S 25 SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM.

SURE ABOUT THAT RIGHT THERE.

SURE. SURE, SURE.

FOR 2627, THAT IS JUST TO PROJECTION BECAUSE THIS IS A FIVE YEAR CIP AND IT'S JUST A PROJECTION.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS IT STILL UNDER BABES BEACH, BUDDY? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ALL COME TOGETHER AND MADE THAT AGREEMENT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, IN TERMS OF SLIDING IT OVER THE CITY.

AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S ON HERE AND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE POTENTIAL 25 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE WEST END. AND THE REASON THAT THAT IS NOT MENTIONED ON OUR CIP IS BECAUSE OUR UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT IF IT IS IN FACT APPROVED, THAT THAT FUNDING IS COMPLETELY COMING FROM THE GLO THROUGH GOMEISA AND IT'S NOT PARK BOARD FUNDING.

SO THAT'S WHY I DID NOT HAVE IT LISTED ON THE PARK BOARD.

MY GOAL IS BUDDHAM KEPPRA AND GOMEISA.

YES MA'AM, BUT NO PARK BOARD FUNDING AND NO CITY FUNDING.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT LISTED ON OUR ACTUAL DOCUMENT.

WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADD IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE IN FUTURE.

25 MILLION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING, A PROJECT I'M NOT I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE SAME DOCUMENT.

32 MILLION.

YOU MEAN 32.5? YEAH. SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE MOST CURRENT CIP ONE HERE, HERE, HERE.

HERE'S, HERE'S THE MOST CURRENT.

MAYBE YOU COULD GET US A COPY OF THE MONTHS.

I WAS GOING TO GET IT OUT TODAY.

YEAH. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CIP FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY. SORRY WE DIDN'T GET A CURRENT COPY OF THE CFP.

NO, THIS. THIS WAS IN MIKE'S MATERIAL.

HE SENT THE CURRENT. I SENT THAT CURRENT ONE.

MUST HAVE NOT FOUND IT.

CAN YOU PRINT IT NOW? NO, DOESN'T HAVE IT. WE DON'T HAVE IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE WHOLE THING.

I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU.

YEAH, RIGHT HERE. GREAT.

YEAH. THIS IS.

THIS IS THE.

CAN WE MAKE A COPY FOR EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL? YES. WELL, COUNCIL GOT IT.

IT WAS. I DIDN'T GET IT. I'M GOING TO.

WHO DIDN'T? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

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THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

YEAH. THERE WAS ONE CHANGE ON THE EAST BEACH PAGE, AS HE MENTIONED, AND IT WAS JUST IN THE LOWER SECTION OF THE BREAKDOWN.

BUT THIS STILL HAS 32 MILLION UNDER BABES BEACH.

IN A FUTURE FUTURE CYCLE, I KNOW BUT 25 THE THE NEXT CYCLE IS 25 AND IT'S THE GLO AND THE CITY'S GOAL TO PUT THAT SAND TO THE WEST.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WE'RE STILL PUTTING IT ON BABES.

THAT'S THE PARK BOARD'S GOAL AS WELL.

STAFF IS VERY CLEAR AT THE PARK BOARD THAT WE ARE NOT TO USE CYCLE 25, THAT THAT IS TO BE DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WEST END PROJECTS.

BUT EVEN 26 OR FUTURE, WE NEED TO PUT IT ON WHERE WE'RE LOSING HOUSES AND PROPERTY, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT THAT FOCUS AND HAVE IT EXPLAINED IN YOUR CIP, SINCE WE'RE STILL HAVING YOU DO THE APPLICATION. ALL RIGHT. CAN I INTERJECT UNTIL UNTIL WE HAVE THAT AGREEMENT WITH WITH PORT OF HOUSTON AND THE ARMY CORPS, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE BUDGETING THIS ANY PLACE. AND THAT'S WE'RE THAT'S CLEARLY PENDING FUTURE.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH ANY OF THOSE ENTITIES ON ON ON THAT SAND.

WE ARE CLOSED. BUT BUT I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE IT IN SOMEONE'S CIP BEFORE WE HAVE THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THEIR, THEIR CIP LOOKING AT BEACH NOURISHMENT.

IT SHOULD BE REFLECTING WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS, WHAT WE VOTED ON AND WHAT WE AGREED ON AND WHAT WE'RE DIRECTING IS WHAT I'M SAYING. I HEAR YOU.

THE REASON WHY THE CYCLE FOR THE WEST END, THE ACTUAL NOURISHMENT IS NOT LISTED ON THE PARK BOARD.

CIP IS BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO FUNDING FROM THE PARK BOARD COMING INTO PLAY.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT REFLECTED.

WE CAN. CERTAINLY IN FUTURE YEARS, MAKE ANOTHER ASTERISKS AT THE BOTTOM THAT TALKS ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN THAT HAVE NO PARK BOARD FUNDING. THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU AS A COUNCIL TO REVIEW OUR CIP AND MAKE COMMENTARY, ESPECIALLY ON FUTURE YEARS.

SO WE DO WE WOULD MORE THAN HAPPY TO APPRECIATE TO HEAR THOSE KIND OF COMMENTS FOR FUTURE YEAR CONVERSATIONS.

BUT IT STILL LEAVES A QUESTION BECAUSE EVEN UNDER THE BED ON 2627, THE BED IS TYPICALLY COVERED BY THE CORE AND THE GLO.

SO WE HAVE AN EXTRA 32 MILLION AT THAT POINT THAT CAN BE USED ON NOURISHMENT SOMEWHERE.

THAT 32 MILLION IS A PLACEHOLDER FOR AN ALL TOLD PROJECT WITH THE CORPS AND WHAT THE CURRENT DAY VALUE IS WITH THEIR INVOLVEMENT.

THAT DOLLAR VALUE IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE INCLUDES LIKE RESTORE FUNDING, IT INCLUDES THE IDC FUNDING, IT INCLUDES THE GLO FUNDING, IT INCLUDES THE ARMY CORPS FUNDING.

AND SO THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS FUTURE FUTURE YEAR AND IT HAS AN ASTERISK NEXT TO IT.

IT IS A PLACEHOLDER FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.

OKAY. OKAY.

VERY GOOD. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PROCESS OF THE CRP ALSO BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS TOPIC, THAT CRP WILL BE PRESENTED IN THE BUDGET AND I'M TALKING ABOUT NOW THE CRP FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR FOR THE PARK BOARD.

COUNCIL WOULD LOOK AT THAT.

THEY'LL GET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF AS THAT COMES FORWARD TO US AND COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE AS WE APPROVE THE BUDGET WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED AND MOVE FORWARD IF THERE'S ANY.

FOR SOME REASON THAT COUNCIL FEELS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TIMELINE ON THOSE PROJECTS OR MORE INFORMATION, WE WILL BE SURE TO DELINEATE THAT AND MAKE SURE THOSE TIMELINES ARE REALLY ESTABLISHED.

THAT'D BE GREAT. GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, CHERYL.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE, MIKE, ON YOUR SECTION? I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM. WHAT IF THERE'S ITEMS, AS WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ACROSS BOARD, THINGS THAT WE FEEL BENEFIT TOURS THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT ADDING TO THE CIP, SUCH AS DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AROUND THIS TABLE.

ARE WE GOING TO COVER THAT IN OUR NEXT DISCUSSION THAT MY MY COMMENT ON THAT, OF COURSE WE CAN

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MY CONCERN IS, IS THE TIMELINES ON THIS BUDGET AND THAT'S MY CONCERNS.

BRIAN, HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO THE FLOW OF THINGS? WELL, OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN AS WE BRING THE BUDGET TO YOU GUYS, WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE SUGGESTIONS.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS GOING FORWARD IN FUTURE YEARS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS MORE REGULARLY, WE CAN GET MORE INTO THE PLANNING PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE GETTING MORE INFORMATION SOONER.

THIS YEAR WE'VE GOT TO GET A BUDGET ADOPTED.

IF THERE'S SOME IF THERE'S SOME CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS IN THERE, WE CAN TALK TO KIMBERLY AND TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT FOR THIS YEAR.

BUT IN THE FUTURE, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS MUCH LIKE WE SIT DOWN WITH EACH MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND GO THROUGH THEIR NEEDS AND WANTS EARLY IN THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, APRIL MAY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA TO HAVE A PLANNING MEETING WITH THE PARK BOARD TO TALK ABOUT.

HERE'S SOME THINGS THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR JUST FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF TOURISM.

AND THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, CROSSWALKS TO SHADE STRUCTURES TO TRASH CANS.

SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S PROBABLY HEALTHY TO DO IN FUTURE YEARS THIS YEAR.

LET'S TRY TO GET IT IN THERE AS BEST WE CAN AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM.

BUT FUTURE YEARS, I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT COUNCILMAN BOUVIER LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE SENT OUT THIS CIP LIST FOR COUNCIL TO REALLY GET A HEADS UP ON THAT.

DAVID THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE FIVE YEAR TO GIVE US THAT PROJECTION OUT.

YOU KNOW, THE ONE YEAR.

AND THE REASON IT'S MORE RIGOROUS IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO THIS YEAR.

BUT IF WE HAVE OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FIVE YEAR AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT.

IT'S A ROLLING DOCUMENT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SETTING 27, 28 IN STONE HERE.

YEAH. I MEAN, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THOUGH, THAT COULD BE THINGS THAT WOULD BE IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, SUCH AS SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFICATION OF DIFFERENT ENTRY POINTS THAT ARE NOW BEING CHARGED TO OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY COULD BE COVERED BY HOT TAX BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE BENEFIT OF TOURISTS.

SO THAT'S THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CAPTURE SOMEWHERE IN THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, BECAUSE IT ISN'T FAIR THAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS ALREADY STRUGGLING, GETS TAXED WITH ALL THIS STUFF WHEN IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWABLE UNDER HOT TAX.

THAT'S PRIMARILY A COUNCIL DECISION.

WE NEED TO DO THAT FIRST, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT THAT IS SOMETHING AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE NEED TO GET THAT'S THAT RESPONSIBILITY IS ON COUNCIL.

WE NEED TO KIND OF ADDRESS THOSE TOPICS EARLIER IN THE PROCESS FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

ALL MEANS. YEAH.

AND IN THE FUTURE JOINT MEETINGS WE CAN HAVE A TOPIC LIKE THAT TOO, WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT UP WITHIN CITY COUNCIL TO INCLUDE FOR THE NEXT FOLLOWING YEAR.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT HAPPEN IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COSTS THAT FALLS ONTO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT IS DONE PURELY FOR BEAUTIFICATION AND BENEFIT OF TOURISTS.

SO THERE THERE SHOULD BE SOME AREA BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, SPRINKLERS, BEAUTIFICATION OF THAT.

AND THESE ARE MAJOR HOT TAX AREAS.

THAT BARBARA ENDS UP SPENDING HER DEPARTMENT'S FUNDS TO CLEAN.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BROADWAY 61ST STREET? I'M TALKING ABOUT 305.

WHEN SHE GOES OUT THERE AND HAS TO CLEAN IT FOR THE BENEFIT.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S NOT MY AREA.

61ST STREET, DISTRICT SIX.

WELL, WE'RE ALL READY FOR BROADWAY.

WE'RE ALREADY USING.

LET'S. LET'S MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HOT FUNDING ALLOCATIONS FOR CITY PROJECTS AND ISSUES AND THINGS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE PARK BOARD TO DO.

THOSE ARE THE, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATIONAL THINGS THAT WE MAY BE ASKING THE PARK BOARD TO DO FOR US.

THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

WELL, THEY'RE ALREADY CLEANING THE SEAWALL.

THEY COULD GO FURTHER.

I DON'T KNOW THAT ASSIGNING IS CLEANING 305.

CAN YOU GUYS, WHILE YOU'RE AT THE END OF THE SEAWALL, CAN YOU GO TO SAINT LOUIS? WELL, THE WAY 305 WORKS IS THE STATE MOWS IT TWICE A YEAR AND MOWING IT TWICE MIGHT MEAN ONE PASS.

TWO PASS. BUT AND THEY MOW IT TWICE A YEAR WHETHER IT NEEDS IT OR NOT.

YEAH. AND I MEAN, THEY DO THEIR BEST, BUT IT'S NOT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP IT.

THAT'S WHY WE JUMPED OUT AND WE ACTUALLY MAINTAIN ALL THE APPROACHES AND EVERYTHING ON I-45 BECAUSE THE STATE WAS JUST NOT KEEPING IT IN A MANNER THAT WE WANTED OUR CITY TO LOOK. OKAY. SO IT FALLS TO OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.

YEAH, BUT THAT'S BUT AGAIN, THAT'S AN INTERNAL CONVERSATION FOR THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE BEFORE WE ENGAGE THEM.

OKAY. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE IN FUTURE.

I ENVISION IN THE NEXT YEAR WORKING WITH KIMBERLY ON A LOT OF THIS STUFF.

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I THINK THIS COMING YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH WITH THE PARK BOARD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BOTH OPTIMIZED AND GETTING THE MOST BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS AS WE CAN.

AND ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC, MARIE, ON THAT, I THINK DAVID COLLINS IS RIGHT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERNAL USE OF HOT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARK BOARD USE OF HOT.

BUT THAT CONCERN OF 3005 OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU HAVE, PLEASE LET BRIAN KNOW THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, WE'LL GET ON THAT.

CAN I? YES, SIR.

I MAY ADD ONE THING TO CYCLE BACK TO WHAT? I JUMPED THE GUN WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DEPOSIT TO TALK ABOUT THE CIP.

THAT'S A PLACE. I STILL THINK THAT ONCE WE HAVE REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE ONE YEAR CIP, WE'VE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS THEN FOR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS FOLLOWING THAT.

THAT'S A PLACE WHERE I THINK STAFF, THE STAFF, YOU GUYS CAN GET A LOT OF A LOT OF WORK DONE SO THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING ON COUNCIL TO DO IT THIS MONTH, WAITING ON PARK BOARD TO DO IT NEXT MONTH BECAUSE YOU WIND UP WITH A THREE MONTH PROJECT TAKING SIX MONTHS TO GET ON THE BOOKS.

AND SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMEPLACE I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT PROCESS COMPRESSED.

AND MR. MAXWELL AND I, WE'VE WORKED REALLY WELL TOGETHER SO FAR.

I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BEING AN ISSUE FOR EITHER ONE OF US.

JASON, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? SURE. AND I THINK THAT SOME OF MARIE'S POINTS HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REESTABLISH THE PROPER CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION.

I MEAN, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL THAT WE CAN TAKE TO OUR PARK BOARD STAFF AND WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT DIRECTION AND REPORT BACK IN THE FUTURE ON PROGRESS OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION.

AND I THINK THAT IT COULD BE THERE'S SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT WHERE WE CAN HAVE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AND WELCOME IDEAS IN THE FUTURE.

PERHAPS WHEN WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS AND EVERYTHING FOR TO TO HAVE IDEAS THAT WE CAN USE SOME OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX LEGALLY AS WELL, THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR LEGAL TEAM REVIEW AND LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL THAT AND BRING BACK PRIORITIES AT OUR FUTURE MEETINGS TOO. I KNOW THEY LAUGH BECAUSE I MENTIONED DISTRICT SIX, BUT I SHOULD ALSO NOTE 50% OF HOT TAX COMES FROM DISTRICT SIX.

WHEN DID THIS THOUGHT IT WAS 57 GO DOWN? YEAH, I HEARD 54.

THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT GO DOWN THERE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET THEIR 61ST STREET IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE TO GOOD JOB.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON.

MIKE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING STATEMENT? NO, MAYOR, I'M ALL SET AND I'M COMPLETED MY TASK.

VERY GOOD. LET'S GO TO THREE.

[3.A.2. Update And Discussion Of The Interlocal Agreement (Hardcastle)]

UPDATE AND DISCUSSION OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

JASON HARDCASTLE.

JASON YES. SO THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE WE CITY COUNCIL, PARK BOARD, TRUSTEES, CITY STAFF, PARK BOARD STAFF HAVE AGREED ON PROCESSES, WHETHER THERE'S SPECIFICALLY WHEN I THINK BACK TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL COLLECTIONS, THE PARK BOARD'S STAFF WAS EAGERLY WAITING TO TRANSFER OVER TO THE CITY STAFF AND THE REASON THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO DO SO. ACCORDING TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, WAS THAT THERE WAS A CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE 2019 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO BODIES, AS WELL AS AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED AS WELL RELATING TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL COLLECTIONS, AND VERY THANKFUL THAT OUR STAFFS WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH AN OPERATIONAL AGREEMENT IN THAT INSTANCE, TOO, BECAUSE IT DID CAUSE A DELAY IN THE TRANSFER OF THE COLLECTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR STAFFS TO GET TOGETHER AND FIND SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT OUT THERE WITH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT THERE COULD BE SOME SUBSEQUENT RESOLUTIONS OR ORDINANCES PASSED THAT MAY CONTRADICT AND THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR STAFFS WORK TOGETHER TO FIND THINGS THAT ARE EASILY OR THEY'RE EASILY ABLE TO IDENTIFY.

AND WE CAN MAKE THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT ALONG THOSE LINES.

BRIAN WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ON THIS.

INTERLOCAL WOULD YOU UPDATE US ON THE PHILOSOPHY WE'RE MOVING WITH? FIRST OF ALL, WHAT WE'VE AS AT LEAST FROM A CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WANTED TO LET KIMBERLY AT LEAST BE ABLE TO SIT IN HER CHAIR FOR HALF A SECOND BEFORE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS.

THE SECOND THING IS, IS THAT OBVIOUSLY NOW THE PARK BOARD IS ENGAGED IN A SEARCH.

AND WHETHER IT'S KIMBERLY OR NEW LEADERSHIP, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT ALL THE INPUT IN THE WORLD AS TO HOW WE OPERATE.

AND THEY MAY HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND THINGS.

OUR TAKE ON IT IS FOR THE COMING YEAR IS THAT WE'LL HANDLE ISSUES AS THEY COME UP AND DEAL WITH THEM ON A ONE OFF BASIS AND SLOWLY WORK THROUGH THESE ITEMS.

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I MEAN, WE'RE FINE, WE'RE OPERATING AND WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

WE'LL DEAL WITH ANY ISSUES AS THEY COME UP WITH BOTH BOARD AND COUNCIL IF WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE.

WELL, I THINK THE KEY IS AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT I THINK THE KEY IS WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE MOST EFFICIENT MANNER OF HANDLING THOSE LOW HANGING FRUIT IS.

DO WE DO WE START THOSE INTERLOCAL DISCUSSIONS AND KEEP THINGS, AS IS THE MAJORITY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND PUT THESE LOW HANGING FRUIT ITEMS INTO THAT? OR DO WE HAVE SEPARATE AGREEMENTS ON WE CAN.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON FIRE.

ABSOLUTELY. LET'S LET'S LOOK AT IT.

IF WE'RE IF WE'RE TRUCKING ALONG AND IT'S WORKING, WE'RE JUST GOING TO WORK WITH IT AS IT IS UNTIL WE CAN TILL WE CAN DO AN OVERALL LOOK AT THE INTERLOCAL.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT WE CAN IMPROVE OPERATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS EFFICIENCIES, BY ALL MEANS, LET'S START TALKING ABOUT IT.

KIMBERLY AND THEN DAVID FINKLEY YES, SIR.

I AGREE WITH BRIAN THAT THERE'S GOING TO END HARDCASTLE THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME THINGS THAT ARE VERY EVIDENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES ON AND MAKE THAT QUICKLY.

WE HAVE A PRETTY FIRM TIMELINE ON THE RECRUITMENT FOR THE CEO POSITION, AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY'LL HAVE A DECISION HOPEFULLY BY THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, WHICH GIVES US TIME TO GET THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS ON BOTH ENDS.

AND I ANTICIPATE WHAT I PLANNED ON DOING AND GETTING WITH BRIAN AND HIS TEAM ON WAS THE CREATION OF A CALENDAR POST OCTOBER THAT SAYS HERE ARE SOME DATES THAT WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND START HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS.

BECAUSE AS WITH ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO START ADDRESSING IT.

AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO ESTABLISH AN AGREED UPON CALENDAR BETWEEN THE TWO OF US TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, WHETHER IT'S ME OR SOMEONE ELSE IN THOSE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THE BEST MONTHS FOR BOTH OF US.

SHE'S NOT UP TO HER EARS.

TOURIST AND I'M NOT DEALING WITH BUDGET COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.

AND WE DO HAVE MARDI GRAS THAT FALLS IN THERE, BUT WE'LL WORK AROUND THAT.

AND I SUSPECT THAT THE NEW CEO IS GOING TO RELY HEAVILY ON ME AS THE CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER.

IF IT'S NOT ME, THEY'LL RELY HEAVILY ON ME.

SO I'LL BE PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, PART OF THAT PLANNING PROCESS.

VERY GOOD. DAVID FINKEL.

SO IT SOUNDS SORT OF LIKE KIMBERLY, LIKE YOU ALL HAVE KIND OF A BLENDED APPROACH, RIGHT? SO START TO MAKE YOUR LIST OF THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS RIGHT OFF THE FRONT, WORK ON A CALENDAR FOR WHEN YOU HAVE THE NEW CEO ON BOARD IN OCTOBER, PRESENT THEM WITH A LIST OF LOW HANGING FRUIT, ALONG WITH THE OVERALL GOAL OF AN OVERALL REVIEW OF THE INTERLOCAL.

IS THAT KIND OF A GOOD STATEMENT? CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT, JASON? ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? NO, THAT'S A THAT'S ALL I HAD ONE OTHER COMMENT.

CHAIRMAN HARDCASTLE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT IS IN THE INTERLOCAL THAT IS PRESENTING A RISK OR ADDITIONAL BURDEN RIGHT AT THE MOMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED? KIMBERLY, IT COMES TO YOUR MIND THE TRANSFER OF THE HOT AND WE HAD AN AGREEMENT FOR THAT.

THAT WAS REALLY THE MOST PRESSING ISSUE THAT WE HAD RECENTLY.

AND THEN AS CHAIR HARDCASTLE POINTED OUT, HAVING AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE IN THE INTERLOCAL THAT ALLOWS US TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO PLAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE LEAVE NO TRACE ORDINANCE, HAVING SOME LANGUAGE WITHIN THE INTERLOCAL THAT DEFINES THAT THE PARK BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE PEOPLE.

ARE PUSHING BACK ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE THE APPROPRIATE ENTITY.

BUT. BUT NOTHING THAT'S ON FIRE.

MY HAIR IS NOT ON FIRE.

I'M NOT KNOW. AND IF IT WAS, BRIAN WOULD HEAR FROM ME AND HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE THAT TO YOU ALL.

AND OF COURSE, IF YOU NEED ANY INPUT FROM COUNSEL OR APPROVAL OF PARTICULAR ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS TO MAKE TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT YOU FEEL ARE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

OF COURSE WE CAN GET THOSE ON THE AGENDA VERY QUICKLY ON THAT.

I GUESS, DAVID, THE YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL COLLECTION ISSUE ADDRESSED.

I KNOW THAT THE OPERATIONAL AGREEMENT CAN REMAIN IN PLACE IF NEEDED, BUT SINCE THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS SOMETHING THAT HAS CAUSED AN ISSUE, I PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE MADE MORE PRECISE, AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT BOTH SIDES COMPLETELY AGREE ON.

THEY COULD EASILY COLLABORATE ON AND CLEAN UP.

YEAH, I THINK WHAT KIMBERLY AND I ARE SAYING IN A VERY NICE WAY IS LET US GET OUR BUDGETS FINISHED AND LET ME GET MY BARGAINING CONTRACTS FINISHED.

AND THEN I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE PROGRESS ON THIS.

BUT AIR IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR US RIGHT NOW.

DAVID COLLINS I WILL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS A CONTRACT THAT'S WE WE REVIEW AND APPROVE.

BUT THE NEGOTIATION TO THAT IS BETWEEN KIMBERLY AND BRIAN.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AN OPERATIONAL ITEM.

EVERYTHING IN IT IS, GUYS, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, I PROMISE YOU.

YEAH, I THINK YOU GUYS GOT THAT COVERED.

[3.A.3. Discussion And Review Of Plans For Seawall Beach Access Ramps West Of 61st St (Hardcastle)]

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JASON YES.

SO WITH THE POPULARITY AND EXPANSION OF BABES BEACH OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THERE IS A LIMITATION ON ACCESS POINTS.

IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL EMERGENCY SITUATION THAT DOES REQUIRE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, IF IT HAPPENS AT 91ST, THOSE VEHICLES HAVE TO ENTER AT 61ST AND GO 30 BLOCKS DOWN ON SAND.

AND THERE'S WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE OPTIONS ON RAMPS.

AND I KNOW THAT ADDITIONAL RAMPS BETWEEN 61ST AND 91ST AT THIS TIME THAT COULD ENABLE OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO TO RESPOND QUICKER IF THERE IS, GOD FORBID, AN EMERGENCY DOWN THERE.

AND REALIZING THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS THIS PROCESS, WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN PURSUING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF RAMPS.

AND IN OUR MEETINGS THAT OR DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PLACES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED WHERE THERE ARE CURRENTLY TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT 69TH AND 81ST IF I BELIEVE AND ALSO AN ADDITIONAL RAMP AT IN THE FUTURE IF THERE IS ANOTHER TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT IS PUT IN PLACE ON THREE AND FIVE.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL AND TO SEE IF THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN FOR PARK BOARD.

THANK YOU, DAVID BRINKLEY.

AND THEN BRIAN. YEAH.

MR. MAXWELL, SORRY I BEAT YOU TO THE PUNCH.

THAT'S OKAY. I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY ACCESS.

I'D ACTUALLY LIKE A DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE OPENING THIS UP FOR THE ENTIRE SEAWALL BECAUSE WE DO HAVE CONDITIONS IN OTHER DISTRICTS WHERE WE HAVE DELINEATED RED STRIPE PARKING AREAS FOR YOU CAN'T PARK, BUT THE RAMP IS NOT LOCATED WHERE THE RED STRIPES ARE LOCATED.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AN A STUDY TO LOOK AT EMERGENCY ACCESS ALONG THE SEAWALL, I'D ENCOURAGE US TO ACTUALLY TAKE THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN.

AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT EMERGENCY ACCESS ALL THROUGH THE BEACH BECAUSE, GOSH, IT COULD TAKE 25 MINUTES SOMETIMES TO GET ALL THE WAY OUT TO MY COUNTRY.

BUT FORTUNATELY, THE STATE BUILT THE HIGHWAY.

I SAID THAT FOR DAVID.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH TEXDOT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S IN YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE CITY THIS YEAR FOR A SIGNAL AT 89TH STREET.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY MORE OF A REALITY THAN A THAN A WISH LIST AT THIS POINT.

TIMING IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE ISSUE ON THAT.

I TOUCHED ON THIS WITH OUR MEETING WITH THE GLO THE OTHER DAY ABOUT HOW OUR BEACH ACCESS PLAN NEEDS TO BE MORE OF A LIVING DOCUMENT BECAUSE OF LATE THAT HAS BEEN MORE OF THE THE ISSUE IS WHERE WE HAVE PARKING SPOTS AND MOVING AND ELIMINATING PARKING SPOTS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF BLIND INTERSECTIONS ON THE SEAWALL BECAUSE WE HAVE CARS PARKING RIGHT UP TO THE CORNERS.

SO BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THIS BEACH ACCESS PLAN THAT SAYS I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PARK, YOU KNOW, 50,000 CARS IN A SPACE THAT'S NOT ENGINEERED FOR IT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT, BUT TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

AND WE CAN EASILY ALIGN THE YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW.

AT EVERY SIGNALED INTERSECTION.

WE TYPICALLY PUT A RED ZONE AT THE END OF IT TO ACCESS.

SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT HITTING CARS AS CARS TURN.

SO BUT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK.

THIS IS AN EASY ONE.

AND WE'RE TALKING.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JASON, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EARTHEN RAMPS RATHER THAN CONCRETE.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

WHAT WERE THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT IS FOR US TO GO THROUGH PERMITTING AND REGULATORY AND DESIGN.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE RECOMMENDED DESIGN THAT WILL COME FORWARD WOULD BE AN EARTHEN RAMP.

SO NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE THE CASE.

BUT THAT'S THE FIRST PHASE.

THE FIRST PHASE IS GOING THROUGH PERMITTING REGULATORY AND DESIGN, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD COME LATER ON.

AS CHAIR HARDCASTLE MENTIONED, THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERESTED PARTIES WHEN IT COMES TO PLACING A RAMP ON THE SEAWALL.

YOU HAVE COUNTY, CITY AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

AND THEN THE GLOW ALSO, OF COURSE, IS CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS TO THE BEACHES.

AND SO IT'S A IT'S A COMPLICATED IT'S A COMPLICATED DISCUSSION.

ONE THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE, THOUGH.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH BRIAN TO MAKE THAT A REALITY.

BUT THAT FIRST PHASE, YOU WON'T SEE THE RAMPS BEING CONSTRUCTED THIS YEAR.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WOULD THAT WOULD SURPRISE ME.

I THINK THE FIRST PHASE IS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE GETTING THE BUREAUCRACY BETWEEN THOSE VARIOUS ENTITIES TOGETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THE EASIEST PART IS THE RAMP ITSELF.

YES, OF COURSE.

YEAH. IF I COULD JUST REMIND EVERYBODY ONE MORE MONKEY WRENCH IN THAT THAT RAMP MAY BE TERMINATING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A DROP OFF PRETTY QUICK DROP OFF TO STAY IN THE COUNTY EASEMENT ON THAT.

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AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE GLO WAS CLEAR THE OTHER DAY IN OUR CONVERSATION.

I BROUGHT THIS UP AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.

I MEAN, THEY REALLY WERE NO HELP AT ALL AT THE TABLE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THAT KIND OF THING.

SURE. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF OUR GOALS INITIALLY IS TO GET ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE, WHAT ADDITIONAL HURDLES THERE MIGHT BE AND EVERYTHING AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS.

BECAUSE IT IS NO DOUBT COMPLEX, LIKE YOU HAD A QUESTION AND THEN BILL, AND LOOKING AT IT AS A IF I WAS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER AND I HAD A THINGS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD CHAIRS AND THINGS THAT I WAS DOING, I THINK I WOULD WELCOME THAT AS AN ACCESS THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME DOWN AND GO IN THERE.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN FOR IT, BUT I DON'T.

I'D BE HARD PRESSED TO THINK THAT THEY WOULDN'T WANT IT THERE.

BUT I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S A CONSIDERATION.

IT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER.

BILL TRUSTEE.

WILLIE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE HAD A CONCERN AND WANTED ME TO BRING IT UP.

AND I WILL. AND THAT WAS THE USE OF THESE RAMPS.

YOU MENTIONED STAKEHOLDERS.

THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER I THINK THAT'S GOT TO BE CONSIDERED, AND THAT'S THE VENDORS WHO NEED ACCESS TO THE BEACH FOR SUPPORT OF THEIR CHAIRS AND THEIR UMBRELLAS AND JET SKIS AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY'RE TAKING DOWN TO THE BEACH.

AND HIS CONCERN IS THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE ON THE BEACHES DURING THE PARTICULARLY BUSY HOURS, AND THAT THE DESIGN OF THE RAMPS BE REFLECT THAT USAGE ALSO SO THAT WE ATTEMPT TO MINIMIZE THE INTERACTION OF THESE VEHICLES WITH THE TOURISTS WITHOUT HARMING OUR TOURIST IMAGE.

IT WOULD BE TO HAVE SOME ACCIDENT DOWN THERE BECAUSE WE HAD A RAMP THAT DIDN'T FEED PROPERLY OR BECAUSE WE ALLOWED USE.

IT WASN'T APPROPRIATE. SO IF WE COULD INCLUDE THAT STAKEHOLDER IN THE CONSIDERATION OF WHAT WE DO WITH THE RAMPS, I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT HIGH EROSIVE AREAS. WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A RAMP SO FAR DOWN WEST THAT YOU GUYS SPEND YOUR WHOLE LIFE PUTTING THE LAST FOUR FEET OF THE RAMP IN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MITIGATING FACTORS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN DESIGNING ANYTHING ON THE BEACH.

AND THIS IS THIS IS DEFINITELY THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCE HERE.

I ANTICIPATE THAT THE DESIGN FIRM THAT WE CHOOSE IS GOING TO BE ONE THAT TAKES ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.

BUT APPRECIATE HIS FEEDBACK AND YOURS AS WELL, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE THAT WITH THE DESIGN TEAM WHEN THEY'RE TAKING A LOOK.

AND THESE RAMPS REQUIRE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.

THEY DO REQUIRE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.

I WANT TO JUST BRING UP THE TOPIC.

WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE FUNDING OF THESE RAMPS? ARE THIS COMING THROUGH THE PARK BOARD BUDGET? THAT'S THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED.

I THINK THE FIRST THING THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS THE STYLE, THE TYPE, THE NUMBER OF RAMPS.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA ON THE COST THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO CONSTRUCT ONE OF THOSE RAMPS, THEN WE CAN START LOOKING AT FUNDING STREAMS, WHETHER THAT BE GOING OUT FOR A GRANT. LOOKING AT ALONE.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE ARE THINGS TO BE DETERMINED.

FIRST PHASE IS WE'LL WORK THAT OUT.

LET'S GET WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT.

OKAY. THAT'S ANY OTHER ON THIS TOPIC.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S GO TO THREE. A FOUR, PLEASE.

[3.A.4. Discussion Of The Following Items Associated With City Owned/Park Board Managed Parks (Bouvier/Hardcastle)]

MANAGED PARK ONE EAST BEACH ENTRANCE LOCATION TO EAST END LAGOON ACCESS BODDICKER DRIVE THREE DILLON AERO PARK SALE OF ALCOHOL FOUR SEAWOLF PARK WASTEWATER PLANT AND FIVE STUART BEACH.

STATUS OF REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION PROPOSALS.

THIS IS MIKE BOUVIER.

AND JASON, YOU WANT TO TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME? SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THIS THE IDEA OF THIS ITEM IS THAT THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE SEE IN OUR FUTURE MEETINGS JUST WITH THESE THESE PARTICULAR PARKS AND THE COORDINATION REQUIRED IN ORDER TO OPERATE THEM EFFICIENTLY AND TO THEIR HIGHEST AND BEST USE.

THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO ALWAYS BE TOPICS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS ON IT.

SO STARTING WITH THE EAST BEACH, WE THINK THAT THE MOST PRESSING ISSUE IS TO MOVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE FROM BODDICKER DRIVE OVER TO APPLE PARK ROAD. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE THINK THAT IS THAT WE ARE SYMPATHETIC TO THE POSITION THAT CITY STAFF IS IN WHEN IT COMES TO THE RELATION OF THE MAINTENANCE OF BODDICKER DRIVE, BECAUSE IT IS IN A VERY HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT

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SO WE ARE UNDERGOING PLANS TO MAKE THE ENTRANCE AT EAST BEACH, MOVE IT OVER TO THE WEST SIDE AND TO ALSO IMPROVE THE ENTRANCE AND MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF GALVESTON CAN BE PROUD OF.

AND TOURISTS ARE GOING TO WANT TO SEE, AS WELL AS A TYPE OF PHOTOGENIC ENTRANCE.

AND THAT IS ALSO FUNCTIONAL FOR PEOPLE TO TO ACCESS THE PARK AS WELL.

AND, YOU KNOW, HERE FOR ANY INPUT AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT ANYONE MAY HAVE OR TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, WE HAD DAVID COLLINS, DAVID FINKEL AND MARIE, I APPLAUD THIS BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, BODDICKER IS IFFY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN A IN A STORM.

OKAY. A MILD RAIN.

BUT AND SO I THINK I THINK PUTTING PUTTING THAT ENTRANCE AT THE END OF APPLE PARK ROAD IS A IS A GREAT IDEA.

A COUPLE, THREE QUESTIONS. ONE, DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THE BODDICKER DRIVE ENTRANCE, USE IT IN EMERGENCIES? I MEAN, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU MAINTAIN BOTH OF THEM AT ONCE ALL THE TIME? BECAUSE IN RECENT MONTHS, YEARS, BODDICKER HAS BEEN OPEN.

APPLE PARK ROAD IS NOT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF BACKWARDS.

BUT BUT WOULD YOU KEEP BODDICKER ROAD OPEN? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND DEFINITELY DEFER TO TO BRIAN ON THIS BECAUSE IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS BASED ON A DISCUSSION WITH HIM, IS THAT IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. YEAH.

I WOULD THINK THAT FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO KEEP IT PASSABLE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ON TIDAL EVENTS AND RAIN EVENTS, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A SHORT CIRCUIT TO THE QUESTION. I DON'T MEAN ARE WE GOING TO KEEP BODDICKER DRIVE OPEN? I'M SURE. I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THAT GATE OPEN ACCESSIBLE? YES, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY. SECOND, COULD WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT FREE FOR ALL AREA TO THE IMMEDIATE RIGHT OF THAT THAT AREA.

IF YOU APPROACH THE ENTRANCE TO THE APPLE PARK GATE, THERE'S A PARKING AREA TO THE RIGHT NOW THAT IS DESIGNED TO THE SEAWARD.

PART OF IT IS DESIGNED TO MANAGE 15 HANDICAPPED SPACES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY HANDICAPPED SIGNS LEFT OUT THERE.

IT'S WIDE OPEN.

IT LOOKS LIKE SUNNY BEACH ON A BAD DAY OUT THERE VERY OFTEN.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D REALLY LIKE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE GET GET CONTROL OF MY RESIDENTS OUT THERE.

NOT NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

THAT I'M NOT SURE WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT IS TO CLOSE THAT DOWN AND FORCE THE THE HANDICAPPED PARKING TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE FREE PARKING AREA AND KEEP THEM THERE. BUT BUT THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN HELP WITH SIGNAGE AND I SUSPECT THAT IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A PARK BOARD OPERATIONAL ASSISTANCE WITH THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN DEFINITION FROM THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

SO I WOULD LOOK TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN AND TO INFORM US ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE.

OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE 15 HANDICAPPED SPACES COME FROM IS OUT OF THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN THAT IS THAT IS RESTRICTED TO THAT.

BUT BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NEITHER OBSERVED NOR ENFORCED.

AND I THINK THAT'S A CONCERN.

SURE. SECOND WOULD BE.

TO KEEP. THERE'S NO WAY TO DO THIS 100% BUT TO KEEP THAT TRAFFIC ON APPLE PARK DRIVE AS OPPOSED TO CUTTING OVER TO EAST BEACH DRIVE, GOING THROUGH BEACH TOWN TO REACH THAT, BECAUSE YOU CAN YOU CAN DO THAT GOING OUT.

YOU CAN'T DO IT COMING BACK, BUT YOU CAN DO IT GOING OUT.

THERE'S A CROSSOVER THERE.

DAVID, AS YOU KNOW, WE TEMPORARILY BARRICADED, BUT WE DO THAT ON 4TH OF JULY.

WE DO THAT ON BIG WEEKENDS, YOU KNOW.

BUT IF THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE ACCESS POINT TO TO EAST BEACH IN TOTAL, THEN IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR TRAFFIC THROUGH BEACH TOWN.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT LIMITED ANY WAY WE CAN.

JASON, I TALKED ABOUT THAT.

SURE. THAT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THOSE CARS GOING THROUGH BEACH RIGHT AND IN A WAY I THINK THAT THERE'S A RELATION TO BOTH TOPICS THAT YOU BRING UP DAVID THAT I THINK SIGNAGE IS ESSENTIAL OUT THERE, WHETHER IT'S WAYFINDING SIGNAGE OR THE APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE FOR THE AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS ITS INTENDED USE FOR THE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND EVERYTHING BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THAT SPECIAL AREA.

SO THESE ARE THESE ARE GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN AN OVERALL PACKAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNAGE IS CORRECT, BECAUSE WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE BEACH TOWN AREA AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT THE TRAFFIC STAYS ON THE APPROPRIATE ROUTE.

THANK YOU, DAVID FINKLEY GOT MINE ANSWERED.

MARIE, ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THE PARKING THAT'S AT THE OTHER ENTRANCE THAT WON'T ISN'T AT THE EAST BEACH SIDE.

ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THEM PARK ON THE BEACH? IT'S BEEN THROUGH. CAN YOU.

CAN YOU? I'M SORRY. WHEN YOU ENTER EAST BEACH NOW DRIVE OR DRIVE?

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I MEAN, IT'S PART OF OUR ACCESS TO FREE PARKING.

NO, THERE'S FREE PARKING AND PAID PARKING.

THERE'S. THEY'LL JUST CONTINUE DOWN TO WHERE THE PARKING, THEY JUST GO DOWN.

CORRECT. YOU CAN YOU CAN STILL ACCESS.

SO THERE'S AN EASTERN AND A WESTERN PARKING LOT.

AND IF YOU MOVE TO THE WESTERN GATE, WHICH IS THE ROAD GATE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PASS THE PAVILION AND STILL REACH THE THE EASTERN PARKING LOT THAT THEY CAN ACCESS NOW THROUGH BODDICKER DRIVE. THERE'S A PASS THROUGH THERE.

WHAT'S GOING TO KEEP THEM FROM PARKING ON THE BEACH? THEY WON'T HAVE ACCESS TO PARK ON THE BEACH ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THE GATE BECAUSE OF THE BOLLARD LINE.

THAT'S THE BOLLARD LINE FROM EAST BEACH TO TO APPLE PARK IS NOT DIFFERENT.

I DON'T KNOW. I'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR LIKE SANDCASTLE AND I'D BE HARD PRESSED TO TELL YOU WHERE THAT ROAD WAS BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.

SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MOVE CARS OVER TO THAT OTHER PARKING LOT WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, 30,000 PEOPLE OUT THERE? WELL, I WISH WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH 30,000 PEOPLE.

THAT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC ISSUE TO HAVE TO SOLVE.

BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH A SANDCASTLE AND JUST AS WE HAVE WITH SANDCASTLE IN THE PAST RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCUSTOMED TO GOING TO EAST BEACH AND GOING DOWN BARKER ROAD, AND THEY IMMEDIATELY GO INTO THE EASTERN PARKING LOT DURING EVENTS LIKE AA.

AA SANDCASTLE STAFF COMES UP WITH THE TRAFFIC PLAN.

WE WORK WITH THE CITY OF GALVESTON ON THAT TRAFFIC PLAN.

WE HAVE A GPD OFFICER THAT WORKS WITH US.

CHIEF DAVIS IS ALSO INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION AND WE HAVE SIGNAGE AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALS DIRECTING TRAFFIC TO THE WESTERN PARKING LOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FILLING UP BOTH LOTS.

AND WHAT CHAIR HARDCASTLE ALLUDED TO AS WELL IS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TOURISM DEVELOPMENT GROUP.

THE CVB IS WORKING ON A WAYFINDING SIGNAGE PROGRAM AND THAT WILL CONTEMPLATE EAST BEACH TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS WHO ARE ACCUSTOMED TO GOING DOWN BODDICKER WILL NOW GO DOWN.

APFEL AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY ON ASPHALT AND NOT EAST BEACH DRIVE, WHICH WOULD TAKE THEM OVER INTO BEACH TOWN.

IT WOULD BE GREAT IF PEOPLE READ SIGNS, BUT THEY DON'T.

BUT WE HAVE FOUND IS WITH EVENTS, IS THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING KIMBERLY AND I HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT, BUT WE USE THOSE TEMPORARY SIGNS THAT WE POWER UP.

THOSE TEND TO GET MORE ATTENTION, AT LEAST FOR A SHORT TIME.

NOW, IF IT STAYS UP THERE FOREVER, THEN IT BECOMES PART OF THE BACKDROP.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN ENVISION USING THOSE SIGNS ON DAYS WHEN BODDICKER IS JUST TOTALLY NOT ACCESSIBLE OR WHEN YOU'RE HAVING EVENTS OR FOR THIS FIRST SEASON WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS GOING AND WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE ONE AS WELL, WE OWN ONE AND WE'VE DEPLOYED IT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR THOSE EVENTS.

I MEAN, WE CAN USE THOSE PRETTY EFFECTIVELY.

THAT'S MY OTHER CONCERN WOULD BE HAVING LIVED IN PALISADES PALMS FOR A WHILE AFTER IKE, WHEN I LOST MY HOUSE, VERY QUICKLY DECIDED I DID NOT LIKE HIGH RISE LIVING OR THEY, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE EAST END, BUT I LIKE BETTER LIVING ON THE WEST END.

UM, THE, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IF YOU'RE JUST ON THAT ROAD.

I REMEMBER ONE MEMORIAL DAY WATCHING AND UNFORTUNATELY A PERSON ACTUALLY DIED BECAUSE AN AMBULANCE COULDN'T GET THROUGH.

AND IF YOU'RE TAKING THAT JUST DOWN TO ONE ROAD, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE.

I DON'T THINK THE INTENT IS FOR US TO TAKE IT DOWN TO ONE ROAD.

WE STILL INTEND TO KEEP BODDICKER ROAD.

OKAY, MEMORIAL DAY, HIGH TIDE AND BODDICKER IS IMPASSABLE.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MANAGE? I MEAN, IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE HARD.

I'LL FIGURE IT OUT. WHAT'S DIFFERENT? YOU GOT THAT PROBLEM? THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM NOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT INSTANCE.

WE'D PROBABLY BRING THE AMBULANCE DOWN THE BEACH, BUT WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

WE'LL WORK WE'LL WORK ON CONTINGENCY PLANS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT TOPIC IS EAST AND LAGOON AND THIS IDEA OF BARKER ROAD AND MAKING SURE THAT IT IS TRAVERSABLE.

AND SO WE PROBABLY COLLECTIVELY NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT SOME SORT OF EVALUATION OF BARKER DRIVE IN THE LONG RUN AND WHAT ARE SOME WAYS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO IT, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ANGLES.

BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOUR CONCERN, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT IS IT IS A CONCERN THAT WE SHARE AND STAFF SHARE CITY STAFF SHARES WITH THE PARK BOARD STAFF, AND WE WANT TO WORK ON IT. VERY GOOD.

EAST END, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BARKER DRIVE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO PERMANENTLY MAKE BARKER DRIVE A INGRESS EGRESS FOR THE PARK.

VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION.

WE PROBABLY.

BRIAN YOU WANT TO JUST MAKE A FEW COMMENTS? WELL, I MEAN IT WOULD IT WOULD EASILY CONSUME THE REVENUE FOR THAT PARK FOR OUR LIFETIMES JUST TO PAY FOR A PERMANENT PERMANENT SOLUTION OUT THERE ON BODDICKER.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK.

WHAT IS THAT SOLUTION? I PROBABLY HAVE TO ELEVATE IT.

ELEVATE IT. I MEAN, HARDEN, HARDEN THAT AREA.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE IF ONE ONLY HAS TO LOOK OVER AT 128 IN HIGH ISLAND TO SEE THAT HARDENING THE EDGE OF THE HIGHWAY DOES NOT WORK IN TEXTILE HAS ELEVATED

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AND YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ARE WITH THE TEXTILE SOLUTION LIKE YOU SEE ALONG OMEGA BAY.

AND THOSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THEIR SOLUTION IS RATHER THAN HARDEN, THE EDGE IS TO COME UP ON PILING.

THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO ULTIMATELY BE YOUR SOLUTION OUT THERE.

BUT THEN WHERE DO YOU LAND IT? WHERE DO YOU I MEAN, OH, MY GOD, IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN EASY SOLUTION.

YOU GOT A BRIDGE OUT THERE.

YEAH. QUESTION ON THIS THIS ITEM, ARE YOU ARE WE ANTICIPATING A LAGOON ACCESS POINT OFF OF APPLE PARK? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ON ITEM TWO HERE THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT WHILE WE'RE EXTREMELY WE REMAIN EXTREMELY SYMPATHETIC TO THE THE POSITION THAT BODDICKER ROAD PUTS CITY STAFF IN, BUT IT IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY ACCESS POINT TO OR THE MAIN ACCESS POINT TO EASTERN LAGOON.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE ON HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT EASTERN LAGOON STAYS ACCESSIBLE, WHETHER THAT IS MAINTAINING BODDICKER ROAD TO A CERTAIN OR UPGRADING BODDICKER ROAD TO A CERTAIN POINT, OR IF IT'S THE RECONFIGURATION OF EASTERN LAGOON TO SEE IF THERE TO EXPLORE OTHER ENTRANCES AS WELL.

I THINK IT WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.

THE LATTER. BUT OF COURSE THE THE LET'S REMEMBER THE BODDICKER DRIVE TO THE TO THE BRIDGE IS ONE THING.

BODDICKER DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST BEACH ENTRANCE IS SOMETHING ELSE.

SO SO KEEPING IT OPEN DOWN TO THE LAGOON IS A MUCH SIMPLER I THINK ASK THAN THAN GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE BEACH.

AND YOU MAY MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS, BUT WE NEED IT MAY NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER ENTRANCE POINTS TO EASTERN LAGOON. DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? DO IT RIGHT BEHIND TRUSTEE WORTHEN.

HERE YOU'LL SEE THE EASTERN LAGOON.

PARTIALLY. YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN'T.

YOU CAN SEE THE START OF BODDICKER DRIVE GOING DOWN, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THE WHOLE THING.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW AT THE EAST END LAGOON, I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON MY ELBOW TO GET TO MY THUMB.

I PROMISE I'LL GET THERE.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS THROUGH A RESTORE GRANT OF EXTENDING THE TRAILHEAD THAT'S OUT THERE NOW, AS WELL AS BUILDING AN OPEN AIR PAVILION.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND CONVENE WITH NATURE.

BUT THE REASON THAT PEOPLE ARE DRAWN TO EAST END LAGOON IS THE SAME REASON THAT IT MAKES IT PROBLEMATIC FOR BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION IS THAT IT IS TRULY A WETLAND.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT EVEN THE UNTRAINED EYE CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WATER OUT THERE.

AND SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT A WETLAND AND YOU START TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, THERE IS A LOT OF RED TAPE AND REGULATORY THAT COMES INTO PLAY.

NOT TO SAY THAT WE COULDN'T HAVE SOME SORT OF TRAIL THAT CONNECTS APPLE PARK OR EAST BEACH TO THE EASTERN LAGOON, BUT TO SAY THAT THERE WOULD BE A DRIVEWAY WOULD BE VERY, VERY CHALLENGING CONSIDERING THE SENSITIVE NATURE OF THE ECOSYSTEM OUT THERE.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS THAT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH BODDICKER ROAD.

THE FIRST IS THE ISSUE FROM THE SEAWALL DOWN TO EASTERN LAGOON.

AND WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS A LOT OF THE ASPHALT IS FAILING BECAUSE IT'S UNDERMINED FROM THE WASHOUT THAT COMES IN FROM THE SHIP CHANNEL AS YOU GET FURTHER ALONG, THERE'S.

THERE'S VEGETATION AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT WASH OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE PROTECTING THE ROAD BY AND LARGE.

BUT WHAT YOU HAVE IS A VERY LOW LYING ROAD, AND SO YOU HAVE FLOODING.

SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE THERE.

BUT ALL OF THAT TO SAY IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING TO BUILD A ROAD OFF OF APPLE OVER TO THE EASTERN LAGOON.

AND I DO AGREE THAT ADDRESSING, AT LEAST IN THE IMMEDIATE RUN, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE ROAD DOWN TO THE PAVILION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OPENING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS IS GOING TO BE KEY.

OKAY. VERY GOOD.

JOHN, CAN I GO BACK TO BODDICKER REAL QUICK? I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING TO BODDICKER IT EVENTUALLY GO AWAY.

I MEAN, ARE YOU ALL PREPARED FOR THAT TO HAPPEN? NO. WELL, THEN WHY ARE YOU NOT LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS TO FIX BODDICKER? I MEAN, EVEN IF THEY'RE LONG TERM SOLUTIONS.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ISN'T A SOLUTION RIGHT NOW, SO WE JUST KIND OF FORGET ABOUT IT AND LET IT LET IT DO ITS THING.

YEAH, BUT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE YOU SEE LIKE $4 MILLION FOR PROJECTS AT THE EAST END LAGOON.

AND IF YOU CAN'T GET TO IT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? YEAH, AND THEN. AND THEN. AND THEN YOU'RE FORCED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE ONLY ONE ACCESS TO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, APPLE DRIVE.

I THINK THE POINT OF MY DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL TODAY AND MY HOPES WAS TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S AN ISSUE.

AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS THIS LAST WEEK, BRIAN AND I DID, WITH CITY LEADERSHIP AND PARK BOARD LEADERSHIP AROUND THIS IDEA THAT WE NEED WE NEED NOW'S THE TIME.

WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.

WE'VE GOT TO ENGAGE IN A STUDY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE VULNERABILITIES AND WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND I ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT COME FORWARD IN A BUDGET IN THE NEAR FUTURE, NOT THE ONE THAT YOU JUST RECEIVED, BUT CERTAINLY NEXT YEAR.

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I AGREE THAT THIS IS THE SHORT TERM.

WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE SHORT TERM IS MOVE THE ENTRANCE AND THEN THAT ULTIMATELY GIVES CITY STAFF AND PARK BOARD STAFF THE MOST FLEXIBILITY TO DETERMINE WHAT TO DO WITH BODDICKER ROAD AND EAST BEACH IS ACCESS IS NOT COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON HOWEVER LONG THAT PROCESS TAKES.

KIMBERLY GUIDO. KIMBERLY I DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS, BUT MOVING FORWARD, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE ARMY CORPS COULD GET INVOLVED WITH TO TAKE CARE OF THAT EROSION AND THOSE BREAKTHROUGH POINTS THAT WILL EVENTUALLY COME THROUGH? BODDICKER KNOW THEM KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD FIX THAT, POSSIBLY ENGAGE IN BUILDING, RAISING A ROAD, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A NATURE CONSERVANCY OR THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD POINT KNOW THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH THE CORPS BECAUSE IT IS THE EDGE OF THEIR CHANNEL THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO JUMP ON AND DO TOMORROW, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY WORTHY OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE IF WE COULD FORTIFY THAT EDGE, I MEAN, THOSE OF US THAT GREW UP HERE KNOW WE'VE LOST THE BOAT RAMP OUT THERE.

WE'VE LOST THE SPIT THAT PROTECTED THE BOAT RAMP.

IT'S ALL GONE.

SO SO WE NEED TO YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CORPS REGARDING BODDICKER DRIVE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW AS A CITY STREET, IT SERVICES ONLY THE THE TWO PARK BOARD ASSETS OR THE TWO CITY ASSETS THAT ARE MANAGED BY THE PARK BOARD.

WE'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT HAVE TIDAL FLOODING WHERE PEOPLE LIVE ON THAT THE CITY HAS PRIORITY ON.

BEFORE WE WOULD DO BODDICKER, BUT BODDICKER ALSO HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FUNDING SOURCES THAT I DON'T HAVE FOR SPORTSMAN ROAD OR FOR SETTEGAST ROAD OR OTHERS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING TIDAL FLOODING.

I JUST BRING THAT UP BECAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE THE DISCUSSION WAS WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FORGETTING ABOUT BODDICKER AND IF IT GOES AWAY, IT GOES AWAY AND WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

NO, I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.

I THINK THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING, THOUGH, IS WE'RE SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THIS SOLVED BEFORE IT BECOMES AN IMPENETRABLE PROBLEM.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TAKING THIS ACTION.

AND I THINK IN THE FUTURE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EAST BEACH AND EAST LAGOON ITEMS, THAT BODDICKER ROAD WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS AFTER WE GET THE ENTRANCE SITUATION CLEARED.

OKAY. THIS IS MORE LOGISTICS THAN FUTURE PLANNING.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE TO DILLON AIR PARK, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YES. OKAY. SO DILLON AIR PARK HAS HAD A EXTREME AMOUNT OF SUCCESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SURVEYS CONDUCTED BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN MADE MORE APPEALING AS WELL WITH THE PEOPLE WHO DO VISIT.

THERE SEEMS TO BE A DEMAND FOR AN ON PREMISES ALCOHOL SERVICE BAR, FULL SERVICE BAR AT THE FACILITY AND IN THE PARK BOARD DISCUSSION MIND THAT THIS IS A KIND OF A COASTAL LIFESTYLE DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE AND WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE IS A COUNCIL INTEREST IN ALLOWING US TO PURSUE THIS THIS AVENUE.

TO MEET MARKET DEMAND.

DAVID. OKAY. FIRST FIRST QUESTION IS POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A BAR OR OFF PREMISE SALE AT THE SITE? BAR. BAR.

OKAY. THAT THAT'S KIND OF NEWS TO ME.

SECONDLY, KUDOS TO VINCE LOFTUS AND HIS CREW FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE OUT THERE.

IT REALLY LOOKS NICE AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY CLEARLY POPULAR.

YOU GOT A LOT OF REPEAT BUSINESS.

IT'S A PREMIER ASSET.

WE LOVE IT. I PERSONALLY THIS IS, OF COURSE, A COUNCIL DECISION AND I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST PROBLEM WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOL IN DEL MAR PARK BECAUSE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A DRIVE IN, GET HAMMERED AND DRIVE OUT KIND OF PLACE.

KNOW IF IT'S IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE THE RESIDENTS OF THE PARK COULD HAVE ACCESS TO.

I THINK THAT THAT'D BE A GREAT, GREAT I MAY HAVE SPOKEN PREMATURELY.

I PROBABLY SHOULD DEFER TO VINCE.

EASE UP HERE. VINCENT, YOU CAN COME IN, MAYBE DESCRIBE THE CHAIR UP THERE UP TO THE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRECISELY WHAT THE CONCEPT IS AND WHAT THE DEMAND THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE IS.

GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. SO, YEAH, AS AS STATED WITH BEING AN ON SITE RV PARK, THERE IS OUR GUEST THAT STAY THERE ON SITE BUT ALSO FROM THE BEACH ACCESS POINT COMING IN AND THEY USE VENDORS BOTH HAVING AN ON SITE CANTINA IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE RECENTLY SITTING ON THAT THAT PORCH AND KIND OF LOOKING OUT AT THE OCEAN, MAN, ONLY THING WOULD MAKE IT BETTER IS A NICE COLD MARGARITA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A COLD SALT, I GOT TO SAY.

YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE A SPACE IN THE CURRENT PAVILION.

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IT'S NOT HIGHLY UTILIZED, SO WE'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO CONVERT THAT INTO THAT BAR SERVICE AND THEN ACTUALLY SERVE OFF OF ONTO THE PATIO.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE'D ALSO ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT SELLING BEER AND WINE THROUGH OUR STORE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A GIFT SHOP AND STORE WHERE WE DO SELL ICE CREAM AND SODA AND SNACKS, FISHING GEAR, RV PARTS, AND THAT HELPS DIVERSIFY OUR REVENUE SOURCE THERE BECAUSE ALL THAT THEN BECOMES NON BEACH USER FEE.

THAT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW WE CAN REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.

MARIE MY ONE QUESTION WOULD BE LIKE A FULL SERVICE BAR, WHAT THE COST WOULD BE AND SO FORTH.

AND IT IS LITERALLY A TEN MINUTE WALK TO WOODY'S FROM DILLON AIR PARK.

SO THERE IS A CLOSE I MEAN, BUT THERE IS, BUT NOT.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR PACKAGED GOODS.

I COULD SEE AND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS NOT LOOKING AT A FULL SERVICE WHERE IT'S HARD LIQUOR MIXED DRINKS MORE YOUR BEER YOUR WINE AND YOUR YOUR WINE BASED TYPE MATERIAL LIKE MARGARITAS AND COLD DRINKS.

SO NOT NOT A FULL SERVICE LIQUOR.

THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. IT MAKES THE COST OF THE THE TABC PERMIT A LOT CHEAPER, MORE AFFORDABLE.

BRIAN WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO IF COUNCIL MOVES IN THE DIRECTION OF APPROVAL OF THIS? IS THIS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE? WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT? MORE OF A DON QUESTION, DON, WOULD ORDINANCE CHANGE? I BELIEVE IT'S A CITY ORDINANCE THAT WE WE'VE PROHIBITED ALCOHOL IN THESE AREAS.

WE HAVEN'T PROHIBITED ALCOHOL.

WE'VE PROHIBITED THE SALE OF ALCOHOL.

THE SALE OF ALCOHOL IS THERE'S PLENTY OF ALCOHOL THERE.

WHAT'S THAT, DON? IT WOULD REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE.

IT IS COUNTING ON THE CITY CLERK.

OKAY. AND LET ME JUST LET ME JUST MAKE MENTION OF THIS MAYOR.

NOT FOR OR AGAINST IT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY BOTH FOR THE PARK BOARD AND, OF COURSE, THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IN REVENUE WITH THE PARK BOARD. SO THESE ARE REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

OKAY. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT, TOO, THAT IF THERE'S RVS, THERE'S ALCOHOL, IT'S WHETHER THEY'RE BUYING IT FROM YOU OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FURTHER? YES. KIMBERLY, I WOULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO COUNCILWOMAN ROB'S STATEMENT THAT WOODY'S IS RIGHT THERE, WHICH I AGREE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS.

IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT CLIENTELE BASE IN MY MIND.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING TO THE BEACH THAT WANT TO GO AND GET SOME BEER TO GO OR GO GET A MARGARITA.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR CHILDREN INTO WOODY'S.

IF THEY WANT TO LEAVE THE BEACH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR CHILDREN OVER TO DILLON AREA.

SO I AGREE. BUT IT WAS FOR THE FULL SERVICE.

OH, I SEE. I SEE.

WHAT HE SAID. IS THAT MAKES SENSE.

KIMBERLY GUYS, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A PACK AND CARRY WHERE YOU CAN PICK UP A SIX PACK OR PICK UP A BOTTLE OF WINE AND TAKE IT OUT.

THE IDEA IS THAT IT WOULD IT WOULD BE BOTH.

SO WE'D HAVE THE ACTUAL SIT DOWN BAR THAT YOU CAN GO IN, GET OUT OF THE HEAT, GO IN THE AIR CONDITIONED, HAVE SOME BASIC BAR FOOD.

RIGHT. YOUR NACHOS, YOUR, YOU KNOW, PRETZELS WITH CHEESE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THE FULL SERVICE.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S. MORE YOUR YOUR BEER, YOUR WINE AND YOUR WINE BASED MIXED DRINKS.

BULLWINKLE. BOB BULLWINKLE.

BOB? YES.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT, BOB? NO. NO, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT YOU THOUGHT I SAW YOUR HAND UP.

MY APOLOGIES. PLEASE, BOB, IF YOU DO, JUST SPEAK UP IN THE FUTURE HERE.

I WILL. I WILL, I IF I COULD.

I THINK THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY.

I KNOW THIS IS ABOUT DELANTERA, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THAT CONVERSATION.

WE AT SEAWOLF PARK HAVE JUST PURCHASED A GOLF CART TO HELP DIVERSIFY REVENUES AND LOOK AT SELLING SNACKS LIKE YOU WOULD SEE AT A GOLF COURSE, RIGHT, WITH A LITTLE CART.

YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN IS TO SELL WATER, GATORADE, ICE BAIT, YOU KNOW, SOME BASIC TACKLE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER PARK LOCATION THAT I THINK HAVING SOME, YOU KNOW, YOUR BEER, YOUR WINE, YOUR PREPACKAGED THAT WE COULD SELL OUT OF THAT CART WILL REALLY HELP DIVERSIFY. AND AGAIN, IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

AND I KNOW THE OTHER ONE THAT I DARE EVEN BRING UP.

BUT WE HAVE THE ISLANDER SHOP AT STEWART BEACH WHERE WE DO HAVE CONCESSIONS THAT WE'RE SELLING.

WE'RE SELF OPERATING, THAT THAT IS A SALES OF TRAILER THAT WE'VE DEPLOYED THIS LAST YEAR AND WE ARE GOING TO HIT ALMOST 100 GRAND WORTH OF REVENUE OUT OF THAT TRAILER THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

ICE CREAM, BEACH TOWELS, SUNSCREEN, BUT NOT LIKE OF SUBSTANCE.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT SUBSTANCE, BUT I'M SAYING IF YOU UPPED IT TO SALE OF WINE AND AND BEER TO TO I'M SORRY.

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TO TWO THINGS.

ONE, LET'S ALWAYS BE MINDFUL OF THE BEACH, THE GLASS, THE YOU KNOW, THE PROHIBITIONS THAT WE THAT WE'D ALL LIKE TO SEE MAINTAINED THERE.

AND THE SECOND LET'S LET'S TAKE STEWARD AS A SEPARATE ITEM DOWN THE ROAD.

I THINK THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT I THINK THAT'S A YEAH.

WE MARKET IT AS A FAMILY BEACH.

I THINK THAT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE QUESTION.

I'D BE A LOT MORE OPEN TO DYLAN AND EVEN SEE BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT STEWARD.

BUT I THINK IT'S A FINE IDEA.

JOHN I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY GO THE OPPOSITE WAY AND TALK ABOUT STEWARD FIRST.

NO, GO FOR IT. BUT I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING I WOULD LIKE TO OFF TOPIC, BUT GO AHEAD.

SO I GUESS TO STAY ON TOPIC, HOW WILL THAT COME TO US IN A ORDINANCE REVISION AND WHEN WHEN, WHEN WILL WE SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, FIRST OF ALL, IN MY OPINION, WE WOULD NEED TO WORKSHOP THIS ITEM WITH COUNCIL AND THEN THEN DEPENDING ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON THAT, WE WOULD HAVE IT THE NEXT MEETING COMING UP FOR AN ACTION ITEM.

YES, SIR. SO WE COULD DO THAT.

LET'S DO LET'S, LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

WE COULD DO THAT AUGUST 20TH.

OBVIOUSLY VINCE NEEDS SOME LEAD TIME FOR IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEXT SEASON.

YEAH, WE COULD DO AUGUST 24TH AND HAVE IT IN OUR SEPTEMBER 10TH MEETING OR SO, AND THEY COULD DO IT BEFORE NEXT SEASON BECAUSE RV PARK IS ALL YEAR ROUND.

YEAH, ACTUALLY YOU DO BETTER THAN THE RV PARK IN THE OFF SEASON THEN.

YEAH, SURE. PROBABLY.

SURE. FALL IN THAT ORDINANCE.

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE PROFIT SHARING OF THIS OR WE'RE JUST GOING TO APPROVE THE.

I BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

YEAH. AND THAT'S SOMETHING.

BRIAN, WOULD YOU INITIATE THAT WITH ME TOO? AS YOU AS YOU.

OKAY, WE I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

ONE QUESTION ALONG THE LINES OF THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN HERE IS THAT LOOKS LIKE THE PARK BOARD ITSELF IS GOING TO BE THE SELLER OF THE ALCOHOL OR WOULD WE GIVE THAT TO SOME CONCESSION TO DO THAT? SO WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT BOTH OPTIONS.

I THINK FROM A PROFITABILITY SELF-PERFORMING IS ALWAYS GOING TO MAKE US MORE, BUT THERE ARE SOME LOGISTICAL CONCERNS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL OVER LIABILITY.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE EXPLORING THAT FURTHER.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.

THAT'S THAT'S FINE.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY, THE WAY I ENVISION IT IS WE TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHAT THEY PREFER.

IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS HERE.

ONE IS ONE IS COUNCIL'S WEIGHING IN ON THE SALE OF ALCOHOL, BUT THE REVENUE SHARING AND THAT KIND OF THING WOULD BE AN INTER-LOCAL QUESTION, NOT NOT AN ORDINANCE QUESTION.

I WOULD THINK WHAT WE'LL DO COUNCIL WILL PUT THAT ON OUR AUGUST 24TH AGENDA AS A WORKSHOP ITEM.

JASON AND THEN WE WILL WE COULD HAVE AS AN ACTION ITEM ON OUR SEPTEMBER 10TH OR SO MEETING FOLLOWING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER THAT.

IN THE MEANTIME, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS INTEREST SO WE CAN HAVE PARK BOARD STAFF WORKING ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MODELS SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE PREPARED FOR YOU AS WELL.

WHEN IT COMES TIME TO MAKE THE DECISION, THAT'D BE GREAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, VINCE.

VINCE? I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE DONE.

YOU MAY WANT TO STAY. YEAH.

OH, YEAH, THAT'S. I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE OUT OF THE WOODS.

OKAY. YOU'RE OUT OF THE WOODS HERE.

ALL RIGHT, JASON.

SO, WITH SEAWOLF PARK, THERE'S BEEN YEARS AND YEARS OF DISCUSSIONS ON THE BEST USE OF SEAWOLF PARK.

AND WHILE THERE HAS BEEN DEBATE ON WHICH DIRECTIONS TO GO OUT THERE, WHAT HAS CRYSTALLIZED, IN MY OPINION, IS THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR TO ADDRESS THE WASTEWATER ISSUES CURRENTLY AT SEAWOLF PARK, JUST BASED ON THE PROJECTIONS OF THE ATTENDANCE GROWTH WITH ASSOCIATED WITH THE GALVESTON NAVAL MUSEUM.

IT IS ALREADY PLACING A LOT OF STRESS ON THE CURRENT FACILITIES OUT THERE.

IF WE CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS CLIMB, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING ISSUE FOR SURE.

AND THEN IF WE ALSO START TALKING ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A WATER TAXI OUT THERE, IF WE START TALKING ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A BOAT RAMP, AN RV PARK, AN IMMIGRATION STATION ATTRACTION OUT THERE, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, THAT IT'S GOING TO PLACE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STRESS ON THE CURRENT FACILITIES OUT THERE.

SO WHILE WE'RE STILL DETERMINING THE BEST ROUTE TO GO FROM AN ATTRACTION STANDPOINT, WHICH COULD BE A VARIETY OF THOSE THOSE ITEMS THAT I MENTIONED, A COMBINATION OF THEM OR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN CONCEIVED YET, IT SEEMS LIKE THE WASTEWATER ISSUE HAS TO BE PRIORITIZED OUT

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AND TO KIND OF FOLLOW TO OPEN THIS DISCUSSION UP, BRIAN, I THINK YOU HAVE A THOUGHT ON WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

YEAH, WE HAVE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN OUR CIP.

WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH ON IT.

TRINO HAS AND WE FOUND SOME VERY COST EFFECTIVE PACKAGE SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE MONEY IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS IT.

VERY GOOD. KIMBERLY, FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT AT THE PARK BOARD, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, ON WHERE THE CITY IS HEADING WITH THIS PACKAGE PLAN? WE WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED IN TALKING WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

IS IT AN EXPANDABLE PACKAGE PLAN? IS IT ONLY GOING TO ADDRESS WHAT WE HAVE NOW? IS THERE ROOM TO EXPAND? I MEAN, THOSE THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO HAVE BECAUSE WHILE WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE SHORT TERM NEEDS OF THE PARK, LONG TERM FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PELICAN ISLAND, WE NEED TO LOOK AT AN OVERALL WASTEWATER PLANT FOR THE ENTIRE PELICAN ISLAND AREA.

DAVID FINKLER. SO YEAH, SO TO THAT END, THE MONEYS ARE BUDGETED IN THIS CURRENT YEAR.

CIP HALF $1 MILLION.

OKAY. AND SO YOU'RE WHAT'S YOUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS IN TERMS OF TALKING INTERNALLY WITH THE PARK BOARD AND TIMING FOR GOING OUT AND YOU KNOW, IS NOT HERE, HE WOULD BE MORE UP TO SPEED ON THAT. BUT I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT I'M SURE WE WOULD BE PUTTING IT OUT FOR BID SOMETIME AFTER THE NEW BUDGET IF IT GETS APPROVED.

OKAY. SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN A YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO MAKE MASSIVE CHANGES OVER THERE.

THIS IS JUST KEEP IN MIND, GUYS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PERMITTED OPERATING SYSTEM OVER THERE RIGHT NOW.

THAT SYSTEM INVOLVES A TRUCK AND A PUMP, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY A PERMANENT SYSTEM ALREADY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO GET YOU KNOW, THIS IS I WOULD BE LYING TO YOU IF I TOLD YOU THAT THIS IS ANYTHING MORE THAN A SHORT TERM SOLUTION OVER THERE.

CORRECT COMMENTS.

JASON, ANY MORE THOUGHTS ON THAT, SIR? NO. KIMBERLY, DO YOU THINK THAT WE WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD FROM OUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS PROJECT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT A REALITY, THE BETTER.

AND WE DO HAVE A PERMANENT SOLUTION OUT THERE THAT EVENTS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE HAVE THREE PLUMBED UNITS IN THE PARK ITSELF.

WE'VE GOT TWO WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE MUSEUM AND THEN WE HAVE ONE IN THE BUILDING.

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS PORTLETS.

AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE GUEST EXPERIENCE THAT THEY'RE HAVING OUT THERE, IN ADDITION TO ALCOHOL SALES, WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE A FACILITY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HAS A FLUSHING TOILET AND WARM WATER TO WASH THEIR HANDS.

VERY GOOD. AND I GUESS, VINCE, YOU'RE THE YOU HAVE THE MOST EXPERIENCE OUT THERE.

YOU'RE OUT THERE ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS.

ANY CONCERNS, ANY ANY DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE SEEKING AS WELL? ABSOLUTELY. OBVIOUSLY, THIS PAST YEAR, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME MASTER PLANNING OUT THAT FACILITY, WORKING THROUGH THE TASK FORCE WITH CITY STAFF.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHERE WE CAN TAKE THAT PARK.

I THINK THERE'S SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME INCREASED REVENUES THAT CAN BE FURTHER ALLOCATED AND REALLOCATE APPROPRIATED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THAT PARK AND FOR THE RESIDENTS.

SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE WASTEWATER, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE PIECE.

AND EXPANDABLE SYSTEM I THINK IS GOING TO BE KEY TO ANY KIND OF FUTURE GROWTH AND THEN WORKING THROUGH.

SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT TASK FORCE AND TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS, SUCH AS THE RV PARK, WHETHER THAT'S ON A LIMITED BASIS.

WE DO A DROP POT, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE TALKED BEFORE WITH COUNCIL OR INTO THE BOAT RAMP OR EXPANSION OF THE MUSEUM.

I THINK THAT THAT IS A PART THAT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO REALLY INCREASE REVENUES THAT CAN, AGAIN, GO TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS OF GALVESTON TO.

VERY GOOD, BILL.

TAKING THAT A STEP FURTHER WITH THE IDEA THAT THE WASTEWATER PLANT IS REALLY GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR US, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT HAS PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A WRINKLE IN IT WHEN THEY CUT BACK THE FLOUNDER LIMIT AND THAT KIND OF CUT INTO THE REVENUE A BIT.

BUT LOOKING FORWARD, THIS THIS HAS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND AND BLOW UP INTO SOMETHING.

THE THE RV PARK AND THE MASTER PLAN CAN BE CASH FLOW POSITIVE THE INITIAL YEAR.

AND IF YOU PUT THAT IN WITHOUT A WASTEWATER, I GO BACK AS FAR AS TALKING TO THE PREVIOUS PARK BOARD CEO BACK IN 2016, I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT A WAY TO PUT AN RV PARK IN THERE AND PROVIDE FOR THE WASTEWATER OFF SITE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT REVENUE WE CAN BE GENERATING AS MUCH AS 300 OR 400,000 IN MONEY THAT CAN BE PUT BACK INTO EXPANDING THE WASTEWATER TO ADDING THE PAVILIONS, TO PUTTING THE THING IN THERE.

SO THE WASTEWATER PLANT IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY POSITIVE FOR US AND A AND A FORWARD STEP IN THIS MASTER PLAN UTILIZES ALL OF THAT

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AS YOU PULL INTO THE PARK.

ONCE YOU MAKE THAT CURVE AND HEAD TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE, ALL OF THAT AREA NOW IS JUST BASICALLY OPEN AREA AND AND ALL OF THAT EVEN NOT CONNECTED TO A WASTEWATER PLANT WITH AN OFF SITE RV DUMP WOULD WOULD PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAFFIC. AND IF WE COULD WORK OUT A WAY TO ADD THAT SMALL COVE BEACH AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE TO THAT, THE REVENUE ON THAT PARK IS GOING TO BLOW UP, NOT TO MENTION THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE OF HAVING DELNERO AND SEAWOLF RV SITES WORKING TOGETHER TO FILL BOTH OF THEM.

AND LET'S FACE IT, THROUGH MID DECEMBER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FISHERMEN LINING UP TO STAY THERE AND FILLING THAT PARK UP.

SO THE REVENUE TO PAY FOR THIS WASTEWATER, WHICH IS, I KNOW, IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US AND TO ALL OF YOU ON COUNCIL, BUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET THIS PARK COME IN WITH FUNDS THAT CAN BOTH CONTRIBUTE TO BRIAN'S PROBLEM OF FUNDING HIS PUBLIC SERVICE PEOPLE AND THAT SORT OF THING, WHICH IS HUGE FOR THE CITY.

IT PROVIDES US WITH A SOURCE OF EXPANDING THE TOURIST EXPERIENCE AND APPEALING TO THAT HIGHER DOLLAR, HIGHER VALUE TOURISTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO ATTRACT, IN ADDITION TO THOSE FOLKS FROM HOUSTON THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT.

GOOD POINT. VERY GOOD POINT.

YOU JUST KEEP IN MIND, MAYOR, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN OVERALL PACKAGE, THIS IS THIS IS A PACKAGE PLAN TO REALLY SERVE WHAT'S THERE TODAY AS WE TALK ABOUT EXPANSION PLANS FOR BOTH SEAWOLF AND PELICAN ISLAND IN GENERAL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OVERALL SEWER PLANT.

HOW WE FUND SEWER HERE IS IT'S COMPLETELY ENTERPRISE.

IT'S FUNDED BY THE PEOPLE THAT USE IT.

AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO START ADDING COST TO OUR RESIDENTS ALL OVER TOWN TO BUILD SOMETHING.

IT'S NOT A BUILD IT AND THEY'LL COME TYPE THING IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL PLAN.

HOWEVER, AS WE START FORMALIZING PLANS FOR PELICAN ISLAND AND WE START FORMALIZING MORE PLANS FOR SEAWOLF PARK, WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY SHOW REVENUE TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THE PLANT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE.

OF COURSE, FINDING A SPOT FOR THE PLANT IS GOING TO BE OUR FIRST PRIORITY, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD, JASON.

GREAT. AND I GUESS WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER FIVE, THE STATUS OF THE PARK BOARD REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION IN THE PROPOSALS THAT WE RECEIVED FOR THIS. SO THIS IS AS SOMEONE WHO IS REMAINING OVER FROM THE PREVIOUS PARK BOARD, JUST A WAY TO BUTTON UP THE PROCESS AND THE DIRECTION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE I, KIMBERLY AND JASON RECEIVED IN DECEMBER AND AND ALSO PROVIDED AN UPDATE IN MARCH ABOUT JUST TO SEE WHAT THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTED US TO TAKE WITH THESE SPECIFICALLY WITH THESE RFQS.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETELY TURN OVER OR IS IT SOMETHING WE NEED TO HOLD ON TO OR ARE THEY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SHRED? WE DO WANT TO TO TO BE ABLE TO GIVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO THE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT DID RESPOND TO THE RFQS AS WELL AND GIVE THEM AN UPDATE RATHER THAN WE'RE JUST IN A HOLDING PATTERN.

I WOULD OPEN THIS DISCUSSION CURRENTLY FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS STAFF TO BRING BACK IN THE FALL, POSSIBLY OCTOBER MORE OF A MASTER PLAN FOR STUART BEACH PARK, WORKING A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

OF COURSE, THAT PLAN BEING DEVELOPED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PARK BOARD STAFF AND SO FORTH, AND SAYING THAT.

BRIAN, WHERE DO YOU SEE THESE RFQS PLAYING A ROLE? I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VALUABLE INFORMATION TO THE PLANNING PROCESS.

YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GUYS ARE GOING TO GET IN OCTOBER IS AN OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN BASICALLY ALLOCATING THE PARKING BLOCKS AND SHOWING POTENTIAL USES FOR THE CERTAIN AREAS OF THE PARK.

ONCE COUNCIL ACTS ON THAT, THEN WE CAN HONE IN THESE RFQS WILL BE STALE BY THEN, OBVIOUSLY.

SO YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY RELY ON THESE FOR YOUR FOR YOUR ULTIMATE SOLUTIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, THEIR INPUT IS GOING TO BE VALUABLE IN PUTTING TOGETHER THAT CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT GOES HERE, WHAT GOES HERE, WHAT GOES HERE, WHAT GOES HERE.

AND THEN COUNCIL CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE.

AS TO HOW YOU IF YOU WANT TO REISSUE BIDS, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT YOURSELF, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ALL THINGS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.

WELL, TO ANSWER JASON'S QUESTION ABOUT NOTIFYING THESE THESE ENTITIES THAT HAVE FILED RFQS, WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT? I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MASTER PLAN BEFORE WE DECIDE.

I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER THE CONCEPTUAL OF COUNCIL SAYS, YEAH, THIS IS THE WAY WE WANT TO GO WITH STUART BEACH, THEN WE WOULD

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SITTING HERE, WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU A CONCEPT.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. WE'LL HONE IN ON VERY SPECIFICS AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE TO BID OUT ALL OR PART OF IT OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.

BUT I THINK THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD AFTER WE GET THE CONCEPT IN PLACE.

I THINK AT THIS POINT, I DON'T I DON'T I THINK YOU HAVE TO THANK THE FOLKS FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION, BUT SAY, YOU KNOW, STAY TUNED.

WHEN DOES THE CONCEPT OPEN HAVE IT TO YOU? SOMETIME IN OCTOBER. I MEAN, THAT'S WE'RE RUNNING AND GUNNING ON IT.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG GUYS.

REMEMBER I TOLD YOU THIS WHEN YOU ASKED ME TO DO THIS.

I'M NOT A PARK PLANNER.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU BACK SOME CONCEPTS OF USE, YOU GUYS, THE ACTUAL YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE BRINGING YOU PRETTY PICTURES OF OF BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THOSE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE THINGS THAT ARE DONE ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES ON THE GENERAL THOUGHT AND CONCEPT PROCESS OUT THERE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN AND OTHER THINGS. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHEN YOU START MAKING THESE DECISIONS.

DAVID FINKEL SO THE PARK BOARD HAD A MASTER PLAN AND THEY WENT OUT WITH A DEVELOPMENT RFP.

CITY COUNCIL PULLED IT BACK AND ASKED YOU TO DEVELOP ANOTHER CONCEPT PLAN.

THE MAYOR JUST SAID THAT YOU WERE DEVELOPING THAT CONCEPT PLAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH PARK BOARD STAFF.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FIRST ABOUT THE LAYOUT OF THE OF THE BEACH PATROL AREA ON THE BEACH AND THINGS.

AND AS WE MOVE, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO IT YET BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DEALING PRIMARILY WITH BEACH PATROL TRYING TO GET THIS DONE.

THAT'S PROVEN TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CUMBERSOME THAN WE THOUGHT.

WE'D JUST BUYING THE TRAILERS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PASS THAT NOW.

SO NOW WE CAN START WORKING ON THE NEXT PART OF IT.

SO NO PRETTY PICTURES, WHICH IS FINE BECAUSE.

THE OTHER ONE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ENGINEERING BACKGROUND IN IT TO PROVIDE ANY TYPE OF ECONOMIC ANALYSIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO HOW DOES THIS ONE DIFFER FROM WHAT'S YOUR INTENDED? WHAT'S THE INTENDED OUTCOME WITH A DIFFERENT MASTER PLAN BEING DEVELOPED WITH CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARK BOARD? IT MAY BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THE PARK BOARD'S ALREADY DONE.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO LOOK AT IT FROM A CONCEPTUAL STANDPOINT.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECT INPUT NOW WITH BEACH PATROL AND EXACTLY WHAT BEACH PATROL IS GOING TO NEED EVERYTHING.

AND THE PREVIOUS MASTER PLANS REVOLVED AROUND PAVILIONS AND OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS BLOCK OFF CERTAIN AREAS FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, CERTAIN AREAS FOR FOR PUBLIC USE.

AND YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE WHAT GOES IN THOSE AND HOW YOU WANT TO PROCURE THEM.

HAS THERE BEEN LIKE ANY TYPE OF INVESTIGATION RELATED TO UTILITY AVAILABILITY AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT'S BEING DONE? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AS PART OF THIS AS PART OF THIS STUDY.

IT'S AT LEAST GOING TO GET US WHAT WE NEED FOR WHAT'S GOING TO BE PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS FOR BEACH PATROL AND PROBABLY THE ENTRYWAY.

AND IT'LL ALSO GIVE US A KIND OF A EARLY LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF OVERALL UTILITIES OUT THERE.

OKAY. RYAN, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS SUBJECT UNTIL WE GET JASON'S QUESTION ANSWERED, THOUGH.

IT SEEMS LIKE JASON. JASON, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THESE THESE ENTITIES THAT HAVE FILED RFQS.

IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.

BRIAN AND BRIAN.

WELL, HE SAID THAT HE WOULD MENTION THAT KIND OF STAY TUNED TYPE THING.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, I WOULD THINK AT THIS POINT, ANYTHING THEY'VE SUBMITTED IS GOING TO BE STALE, SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESUBMIT ANYWAY.

SO I THINK YOU THANK THEM FOR THE PARTICIPATION.

APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

STAY TUNED. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME REISSUANCE THAT'S COMING IN THE FUTURE IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO.

JASON, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? IS I MEAN, IT SOUNDS SOUNDS CLEAR TO LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S WE'RE IN A HOLDING PATTERN, REMAIN IN A HOLDING PATTERN AND IT'S COUNCIL'S WILL THAT THEY'LL REACH BACK OUT TO THEM EVENTUALLY THROUGH EITHER US OR THE PARK BOARD AND I'M SORRY US OR CITY STAFF OR PARK BOARD STAFF POTENTIALLY TO REENGAGE IN THE FUTURE.

ALL RIGHT, DAVID, SO THIS WAS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, CORRECT? HAD NO FINANCIAL PIECE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. AND DID THE PARK BOARD GO THROUGH A SELECTION PROCESS AND MAKE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION FOR A PARTNER? WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS BUT DID NOT MAKE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION AT THE MARCH MEETING.

MARCH OF THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE IT REQUIRED MORE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAY THAT OCCURRED.

SO MY QUESTION IS, AND IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF NOT LOSING TIME BASED UPON THE EFFORTS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE AND NOT TELLING PEOPLE, HEY, THANKS FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND WE'RE GOING TO KICK YOU TO THE CURB AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN AND MAKE YOU GO THROUGH THAT EFFORT.

MASTER PLANS OR MASTER PLANS, RIGHT.

THEY'RE THEY'RE SQUARES ON PAPER, CIRCLES ON PAPER.

THEY DEFINE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES.

BUT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD MAKE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION BASED UPON THE NEW CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S COMING OUT? IN OTHER WORDS, NOT WASTE THAT TIME? AGAIN, GOING THROUGH AN RFQ PROCESS, WE WE WERE PREPARED.

WE GOT ONE THAT QUALIFIED, ONE RESPONSE THAT OUR LEGAL COUNSEL HAS DEEMED TO BE QUALIFIED AT THE LATEST RFQ, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE TWO SUBMISSIONS.

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MAYOR, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF MAKE THAT A THOUGHT RATHER THAN JUST DISMISSING THEM OR JUST SAYING, HEY, LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT WITH AN ALL NEW RFP OR RFQ, ASK THAT STAFF OF THE CITY AND THE PARK BOARD WHEN THEY COME UP WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN IN OCTOBER OR WHATEVER, LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF STREAMLINING THAT PROCESS AND PICKING UP WHERE YOU LEFT OFF. THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT ALMOST A YEAR IS GOING TO HAVE ELAPSED AND THERE'S NO BID LAW IN THE WORLD THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO PICK AND USE ANYTHING THAT THEY'VE GOT AND FOR QUALIFICATIONS OR OTHERWISE.

RIGHT. AND THE OTHER THING IS, TOO, IS LET'S JUST BE VERY CANDID ABOUT THIS.

THEY WENT OUT FOR AN RFP, WHICH WAS WHAT THE THE PARK BOARD REALLY THOUGHT.

THEY GAVE PARAMETERS TO WHAT THEY THOUGHT.

I THINK COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF PARAMETERS.

WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ACTUALLY GIVE BETTER INFORMATION OUT THERE.

HERE'S WHAT WE WANT.

WE WANT A BIRD SANCTUARY.

I MEAN, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE, CRAZY STUFF SO NOBODY CAN PIN ME TO THE WALL.

WE WANT A BIRD SANCTUARY.

WE WANT AN AREA FOR DEMOLITION DERBYS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO OUT THERE.

I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO NEEDS TO SAY THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS IN CONCEPT THAT WE WANT OUT THERE, AND THESE ARE THE GENERAL AREAS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE THINGS OCCUR. WHERE DO WE GO FROM THAT POINT WILL BE DETERMINED.

BY WORKING TOGETHER ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S OUR ASSET TO DETERMINE, HEY, IS THIS BETTER SUITED TO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP? IS THIS BETTER SUITED TO THE CITY OR THE PARK BOARD DEVELOPING IT THEMSELVES? IS IT GOING TO BE SOME TYPE OF OTHER TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT THAT COMES UP WITH? WE'LL SEE WHEN THAT COMES.

BUT UNTIL WE CAN LAY IT OUT AND SHOW, HEY, THIS IS IN GENERAL WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HERE, THIS IS IN GENERAL WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HERE.

THIS IS IN GENERAL WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HERE.

AND COUNCIL SAYS GRACE OVER IT.

I THINK WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST EXERCISING THESE PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR NO GOOD REASON.

I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO LAY WHAT THEY WANT DOWN.

KIMBERLY, IF I'M STEPPING OUT OF LINE, LET ME KNOW.

BUT I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE, DAVID, YOU LOOK AT THINGS THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS WHEN I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO YOU ALL DESIGNING WHAT YOU WANT AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP CUT DOWN ON SOME OF THE TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REDUCE SOME OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT CAN AND CANNOT GO IN THAT IN THAT MASTER PLAN. MY ONLY POINT IS, IS THAT THAT I THOUGHT THAT THE ORIGINAL RFQ THAT YOU WENT WHERE YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER, SOMEBODY THAT COULD ASSESS WHAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY OUT THERE AT STEWART BEACH.

AND NOW WE PULLED IT BACK AND WE'RE COMING BACK FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE OF SAYING WE AS COUNCIL KNOW BETTER THAN ANYTHING FOR WHAT SHOULD GO DOWN IN THAT PROPERTY.

AND I QUESTION WHETHER THE EXPERTISE ON COUNCIL IS REALLY MORE VALID THAN GOING OUT AND FINDING A DEVELOPER WHO DOES THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND CAN HELP YOU GENERATE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR YOUR PROPERTY.

JOHN PAUL HAVEN'T BRIAN HAVEN'T WE ALREADY DONE THAT EXERCISE? I MEAN, WE SPENT A YEAR IN THESE MEETINGS WITH WHAT WE WANT TO SEE OUT THERE AND THAT'S WHY I'M.

WOULD WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD SEE A MASTER PLAN LAYOUT SOONER THAN OCTOBER.

I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

THIS WAS THE TIMELINE I GAVE YOU WHEN YOU ASKED ME TO DO IT.

AND I'VE ONLY GOT DUDLEY AND HE'S WORKING ON EVERY OTHER CITY PROJECT, AND THEN WE'VE TASKED HIM WITH THE PARK BOARD WORK.

SO UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO START BEEFING UP AND DOING OTHER THINGS, I'M MOVING IT AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

AND I TOLD YOU THAT WHEN WE TOOK THIS ON.

I DON'T WANT TO RECREATE THE WHEEL HERE, BUT WE HAVE DONE SOME OF THIS STUFF ALREADY.

YOU BET. AND SO IT SEEMS PRETTY EASILY DONE TO BLOCK OUT STEWART BEACH.

AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE MAY VERY WELL BE BEFORE OCTOBER.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW MY MAIN FOCUS IS ON OUR BUDGET AND ON OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING CONTRACTS.

AND IT'S NOT DESIGNING STEWART BEACH.

I'M GETTING THERE AND I'M STICKING TO MY ORIGINAL TIMELINE THAT I PROMISED YOU.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO ACCELERATE THE TIMELINE, THAT'S CERTAINLY YOUR PREROGATIVE.

I'LL STAFF UP AND SPEND MONEY ACCORDINGLY.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO. I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. WE HAD VINCE WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

GO AHEAD, MURRAY. I'M GOING TO SAY YOU HAVE TO FACTOR IN THE INITIAL FEELINGS OR PLANS OR RFQS WAS TO GO TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF THE HOTEL, WHICH WE FOUND WAS NOT POSSIBLE WITH THE THE REGULATIONS AND THINGS THAT WITH THE DONATION OF THE PARK THAT'S THERE. SO A LOT OF YOUR RFQS THAT PASSED WERE ALL RELATED IN THAT DIRECTION.

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WE ORIGINALLY WE GOT THE THREE RFQS FROM THE FIRST TASK FORCE COMMITTEE AND TWO OF THOSE THREE HAD DEFINITIVELY INCORPORATED A RESORT AREA, TWO THAT WOULD GENERATE REVENUE THAT WOULD PAY FOR THE PUBLIC COMPONENTS OF STUART BEACH.

THE OTHER RESPONSE TO THE RFQ SAID IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO IT THERE, BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT A RESORT THERE, THEN THERE'S OTHER WAYS AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

AND THAT IS THE ALSO THE SAME GROUP THAT RESPONDED TO THE SECOND EFFORT TO BRING IN TO SOLICIT RFQS AS WELL, WHICH I DO HAVE RIGHT HERE.

AND IT DOES HAVE IN THERE ALL OF I MEAN, IT'S BASIC, BUT IT DOES GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR QUALIFICATIONS OF WORKING IN PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OR WITHOUT RESORTS.

AND YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW FACES, ESPECIALLY AT THE PARK BOARD, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE SOME OF THAT BACKGROUND.

AGAIN, AS STATED, THE INITIAL RFQ WAS REALLY FOCUSED, I THINK, MORE ON THAT, THAT RESORT STYLE, AND THAT WAS DEFINITELY THE THEME THAT CAME OVER WITH ALL THE SUBMITTALS.

AND THAT WAS IN 2021 AND LATER IN 2022.

COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS LED A TASK FORCE.

AND THAT TASK FORCE REALLY DID START TO KIND OF BRIDGE WHAT THOSE CONCEPTS AND WHAT THAT ULTIMATE USE OF THAT FACILITY WOULD BE.

AND FROM THAT DOCUMENT AND THAT VISION OR THAT TASK FORCE LED BY THE CITY, WE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE LAST RFQ.

AND AGAIN, IT WAS AN RFQ, NOT RFP.

SO A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, NOT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS A MASTER DEVELOPER AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A DEVELOPER.

SO THE INTENT WITH THAT WAS TO GO THROUGH AND ACTUALLY FIRST PHASE IS DUE THE FULL MASTER SITE PLANNING.

SO KIND OF WHAT BRIAN'S DOING NOW IS, IS THIS SQUARE, THIS BLOCK, THIS AREA, THIS IS HOW THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AND THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND WHAT CAN TAKE PLACE ONCE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT VISION, THE IDEA WAS AND THEN THAT DEVELOPER WOULD PUT TOGETHER A BUSINESS PLAN FROM THOSE USES AND COME BACK AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE CAN MAKE THIS INVESTMENT.

THIS IS WHERE THE FINANCIALS WORK OUT AND THEN THE FINANCIALS COME FORWARD.

COUNCIL LOOKS AT THAT AGAIN FROM THAT, EVERYBODY AGREES.

THEN IT GOES INTO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS OVER WHAT LAND LEASES WOULD BE AND GIVES YOU THE ULTIMATE PIECE.

SO FROM THE RFQ THAT WAS INITIATED BY THE PARK BOARD, FROM OVERSIGHT, FROM THE CITY'S TASK FORCE, REALLY WAS TO GET THAT PARTNER IN FOR THAT FIRST LEVEL IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, RIGHT? COMING IN, LOOKING AT THE AT THE PARK, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, HOW IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT CAN BE PUT THERE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF REGULATORY ITEMS. AND THEN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM A DESIGN AND ENGINEERING COMPONENT.

SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE THAT VERY FIRST STAGE.

AND AND PART OF THE PROPOSAL WAS THAT THAT WAS PART OF THEIR PACKAGE FOR THEM TO BE QUALIFIED.

THEY HAD TO BRING THAT TO THE TABLE AS A AS A IN-KIND SERVICE.

SO THERE WAS NO THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ANY COST TO THE CITY OR THE PARK BOARD FOR THEM TO COME IN BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR INVESTMENT, THEIR SKIN IN THE GAME.

TO BE THAT MASTER DEVELOPER, THEY WERE GOING TO COME IN.

BUT AGAIN, IT WAS BASED OFF OF THE VISION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AGREED TO IS HOW THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED.

SO THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT PROPOSAL PROCESS, THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE FRESH PROPOSAL.

PLUS IT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU HAD SO FEW PEOPLE RESPOND.

IT WOULD BE CURIOUS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NOW IF WE WENT OUT TO SEE HOW WELL THAT TOO.

AND I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO WEIGH IN A LITTLE STRONGER THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.

RIGHT. AND STAND BEHIND IT.

IF COUNCIL COMES UP AND SAYS, HEY, SECTION C IS DEFINITELY OUT THERE FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN COUNCIL AND THEY CAN PUT PARAMETERS ON IT, THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THERE.

THESE ARE THE TYPE OF REVENUE REQUIREMENTS WE'D LIKE TO SEE THERE.

THIS AREA NEEDS TO BE DESIGNATED FOR SOME TYPE OF PARKING.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

THIS AREA NEEDS TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AND BE PUBLIC BEACH.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THESE TYPES OF AMENITIES THERE.

AND KNOW WHAT I ENVISION IS BRINGING THESE BLOCKS BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SUGGESTIONS AND WE'LL SIT THERE AND WE CAN MOVE, SHRINK, MOVE THE BLOCKS, ADD AMENITIES, SUBTRACT THEM.

ONCE YOU HAVE THAT, THEN THIS PROCESS ABSOLUTELY HOLDS WATER.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE LACKED UP UNTIL THIS POINT IS A COHESIVE HERE'S WHAT WE WANT OUT THERE FROM COUNCIL.

WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.

I KNOW IT'S NOT MOVING AS FAST AS COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI WOULD LIKE AND HE'S FRUSTRATED OVER IT.

BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

WE'RE ABOUT TWO MONTHS AWAY.

GO AHEAD. I'M NOT FRUSTRATED.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE COULDN'T HAVE SEEN THAT EVEN IN.

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I MEAN, THIS IS I'M NOT LOOKING FOR SOME SOMEBODY ELSE DO IT.

I DON'T HAVE THE TIME. SO YOU SAY I'M GETTING FRUSTRATED, BUT NOW YOU'RE GETTING FRUSTRATED.

YOU'RE GETTING FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I.

BECAUSE WE. NO, NO, NO, NO.

EASY, BRIAN. NO, IT'S EASY.

IT'S EASY FOR YOU TO SIT THERE AND SAY THAT IT'S EASY.

HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO LAY OUT YOUR SUBDIVISIONS? YOU DO IT TWO HOURS.

YEAH, I CAN. I CAN LAY OUT A SUBDIVISION IN A COUPLE OF HOURS.

I MEAN, THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

AND YOU NEED INPUT FROM COUNCIL AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN GIVING US THE FIRST STEP TO GIVE YOU THAT INPUT.

WHAT STEP DO YOU WANT? BLOCK OUT THE BEACH. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

JUMP UP TO TWO MONTHS.

KNOW WHAT I GOT TOLD BY YOU? NO. NO. WHAT I GOT TOLD BY YOU GUYS WAS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS THE UTILITIES.

BEACH PATROL. AND GETTING THAT PAVILION TORN DOWN, THAT WAS YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD ME. SO YOU CANNOT GIVE ME A BLOCK OUT OF THE BEACH AFTER WE'VE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE BEACH FOR FIVE YEARS, JOHN.

THIS THIS IS I MEAN, THIS THIS IS I DON'T I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU'RE SO FRUSTRATED THAT I'M ASKING BECAUSE THIS IS EASY.

BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY COUNCIL'S ALREADY VOTED AND AGREED UPON A TIMELINE ON THIS.

I'VE ALREADY GIVEN IT TO YOU.

CAN WE TAKE OUR EMOTIONS OUT OF THIS? JUST ONE SECOND. JUST ONE SECOND.

I MEAN, I DID THIS.

YOU GUYS ASKED ME TO DO IT.

I GAVE YOU A TIMELINE. I SAID I WAS GOING TO DO IT.

IF THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME THEN.

BRIAN, I UNDERSTAND AND NOT FIGHT ABOUT THIS EVERY TIME IT COMES UP ON AN AGENDA.

MAYOR, IT'S GETTING RIDICULOUS.

IT'S RIDICULOUS. THIS INFORMATION CAN BE PROVIDED TO US.

JUST. JUST ONE SECOND.

WE HAVE BRIAN HAS TOLD US THAT HE IS GOING TO BRING THIS FORWARD IN FALL IN OCTOBER.

THAT'S BEEN TOLD TO US MANY, MANY TIMES NOW, JOHN, IF YOU FEEL THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING SOONER THAN THAT, AS BRIAN SAID EARLIER, LET'S GET IT ON THE AGENDA. WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AUGUST 10TH WORKSHOP.

AND IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD AND DIRECTING BRIAN TO BRING SOMETHING BACK IN THREE WEEKS OR A MONTH OR WHATEVER, WE CAN DO THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION.

I MEAN, THAT'S RIGHT.

FROM Y'ALL. WHAT ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT TIMELINE? AGREED. AND WE GAVE THEM TO OCTOBER.

WE GAVE THEM TO OCTOBER.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU EVEN VOTED FOR IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS I WAS EXPECTING.

I'M GOING TO SAY, IF THIS WAS SO EASY AND I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT SHORT BEACH FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, HAVING SERVED ON VMAC MANY YEARS THIS, I HAVE SEEN AT LEAST SIX DIFFERENT MASTER PLANS. SO IF IT WAS SO EASY, THEN WHY HASN'T ANYTHING HAPPENED IN 20 YEARS? WE FIGURED OUT WHERE THE LIFEGUARDS WERE GOING IN A MATTER OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I MEAN, THAT WAS NOT A HARD THING.

SO WE KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PARKING GARAGES UP THERE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT.

I MEAN, THIS IS NOT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT LAYING OUT A 200 ACRE SUBDIVISION OR SOME MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 60 ACRES THAT THAT ONLY HAS A FEW COMPONENTS TO IT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. WE DID.

WE DID. BRIAN BROUGHT BACK SOME THOUGHTS ON WHERE THE BEACH PATROL SHOULD BE IN A MATTER OF WEEKS.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, TO GET TO THAT POINT, BRIAN HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS WITH INDIVIDUALS AND THE PARK BOARD AND THE BEACH PATROL TO GET TO THAT POINT.

IT SEEMS SIMPLE WHEN WE SEE IT, BUT TO GET TO THAT POINT TOOK SOME TIME.

AND I THINK WHAT BRIAN IS SAYING, HE'S IN THE MIDST OF ALL THIS WITH THE BUDGETS, WITH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS GOING ON.

HE'S REQUESTING THAT HE PUT IT OFF FOR TWO MORE MONTHS FROM NOW.

HE SAID IN OCTOBER, WE'RE COMING UP ON FIRST.

WE'LL HAVE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.

IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS.

YOU'LL HAVE A PLAN FOR US.

IF IT'S DONE SOONER, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

YES. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

MAYOR, IS IT DOES IT APPEAR THAT WE CHANGED THE DELIVERABLE? I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONCEPTUAL PLAN VERSUS A MASTER PLAN.

I MEAN, WERE YOU EXPECTING THE MASTER PLAN TO BE DELIVERED AND.

NOT AT ALL. NOT AT ALL.

SO WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE DELIVERABLE? NO, SIR. NO, SIR, NOT AT ALL.

AND I THINK NOW, JOHN, IF YOU FEEL AND I'M SAYING THIS NOT NOT AS CRITICAL, BUT I'M IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. IF YOU FEEL THAT WE NEED TO MOVE THIS ALONG FURTHER THAN TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AUGUST 10TH AGENDA.

LET'S GET IT ON COUNCIL'S THINGS AND WE'LL MOVE AND GET COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS AND MOVE FORWARD.

BUT PERSONALLY I'M FINE WITH KEEPING IT IN OCTOBER.

THAT'S WHAT BRIAN SAID HE WOULD DO.

WE AGREED MONTHS AGO AND WE AGREED TO THAT.

SO I THOUGHT OUR AGREEMENT WAS THAT WE'D TALK MORE IN OCTOBER, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE AGREED.

WHEN DUDLEY CAME BACK AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF IDEA OF THIS THIS LAYOUT OF SEWARD BEACH.

I DON'T REMEMBER. MAYBE I WAS WRONG.

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I THOUGHT WE WERE WE HAD A BLOCKED OUT LAYOUT THAT WE WERE GOING TO SEE WHEN DUDLEY CAME BACK TO THAT MEETING.

ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO ENTER THIS? I DO. I HAVE MY GLOVES ON.

I IF I'M SEEING THIS CORRECTLY.

WHAT IF WE GO GO AHEAD AND HIRE ONE OF THESE COMPANIES TO COME IN, HELP BRIAN PULL IN THE PARK BOARD AND EVERYONE WORKED TOGETHER.

WE'RE I THINK THAT'S.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS ON THAT, KIMBERLY.

I THINK THAT'S A THOUGHT TO CONSIDER, BUT IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE.

WE NEED TO GET COUNSEL.

BRIAN NEEDS TO WORK WITH THE PARK BOARD STAFF, COME BACK AND GET COUNCIL'S DIRECTION BEFORE WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD.

AND THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.

WELL, CAN THESE I SPENT SIX MONTHS HEADING A TASK FORCE TO DO THIS VERY THING.

WHAT JOHN WAS REFERRING TO, WE CAME UP WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A PRETTY DECENT BLOCKED OUT, THAT WE STILL HAD THAT BURNING QUESTION ABOUT A HOTEL LINGERING OVER IT.

I TOOK THAT TO PARK BOARD.

PARK BOARD STAFF REJECTED IT COMPLETELY OUT OF HAND BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT FRUSTRATED COUNCIL COUNCIL SAID TO BRIAN, GIVE US A PICTURE OF THIS. SOLVE THE PAVILION PROBLEM, SOLVE THE BEACH PATROL PROBLEM.

GIVE US A PICTURE OF STUART BEACH GOING FORWARD.

DON'T ASK ANYBODY ABOUT IT.

JUST JUST GET US ONE.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, TECHNICALLY YOU HAD TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS, BUT SO WE WE WE ASSIGN THIS TO BRIAN BECAUSE IT WASN'T GETTING DONE OTHERWISE.

HADN'T BEEN DONE IN TEN YEARS.

SO I'M PERFECTLY OKAY WITH SITTING HERE WAITING UNTIL OCTOBER.

IT'S A VIRTUAL AUGUST 1ST TO OCTOBER TO SEE WHAT MR. MAXWELL BRINGS BACK. IF WE HATE IT, WE'LL HATE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK SO.

JASON, LET ME ASK THIS.

WE I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, IF WE COULD, FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, IF THAT MEANT YOUR APPROVAL.

JASON, MOVE FORWARD WITH.

AND YES, I MEAN, I CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE STILL IN A HOLDING PATTERN WITH THE RFQS AND EVERYTHING. AND I WILL ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE DID DELIVER ON WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTIONS WERE GOING BACK TO NOVEMBER WHEN WE DID GET COUNCIL'S INPUT ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT STUART BEACH THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE RFQ REQUEST, CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER DID VOTE TO GIVE US THE FREEDOM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WITH THE EXPECTATION WE RETURN IN MARCH TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.

WE RETURNED IN MARCH TO PROVIDE UPDATES AT BOTH SEAWOLF PARK AND STUART BEACH, AND IT'S BEEN IN A HOLDING PATTERN SINCE THEN.

AND AS CITY COUNCIL APPOINTEES, IF CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER TO MOVE TO TAKE ANY STEPS FORWARD BEYOND BEACH PATROL, THEN WE'RE HERE READY TO DISCUSS IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.

I SENSE FROM COUNCIL AND AND BRIAN, IF THAT CAN COME SOONER, FEEL FREE.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS OCTOBER FOR YOUR REPORT, JOHN, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR AUGUST 10TH, I'M FINE TO DO THAT.

IT SEEMS TO ME THOUGH, FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, THE CONSENSUS IS WE WERE GOING TO STAY WITH THIS OCTOBER DATE ON THAT.

VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT SUBJECT? NOPE, NOT HERE.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THREE.

[3.A.5. Discussion Of Policies Governing The Operation Of The 24 Hour Short Term Rental Call Center (Brown]

JANELLE THREE, A FIVE.

DISCUSSION OF POLICIES GOVERNING THE OPERATION OF THE 24 HOUR SHORT TERM RENTAL CALL CENTER.

THANK YOU, FANS. APPRECIATE IT.

PUT THESE THIS AN 3A6 I'VE PUT ON THE AGENDA.

I HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL CALL CENTER.

LET ME SAY THIS.

WHAT A POSITIVE STEP FORWARD IS THIS 24 HOUR CALL CENTER NOW, IS THERE SOME THINGS THAT WE STILL NEED TO COME TO WORK OUT? SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THAT? YES. BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT STEP FORWARD.

THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS RECENTLY.

BRYSON, YOU SENT OUT A FLOW CHART CONCERNING HOW THIS IS TO FLOW.

DO YOU HAVE COPIES OF THAT, SIR? I DON'T HAVE COPIES OF THAT WITH ME.

WITH ME, MR. MAYOR, I DO APOLOGIZE.

COME UP AND HAVE A SEAT.

IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE TELL US HOW IT WORKS.

SURE, SURE. SO THE CALL CENTER WAS LAUNCHED ON JULY 14TH.

THERE'S BEEN SOME GOOD THINGS AND THERE'S BEEN SOME AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED NEED TO BE IMPROVED.

WE DID WORK OUT AN ORIGINAL CALL FLOW WITH CITY STAFF.

ROBERT SIMMONS WAS VERY HELPFUL WITH THAT.

AND THEN LAST FRIDAY, WE MET WITH DAN BUCKLEY AND ROBERT AND BUTCH TO GO OVER IT, AND THEY MADE SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO BE REALLY USEFUL AND I THINK ARE GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD.

ONE OF THEM IS AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE AND TO KIND OF ANSWER YOUR.

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FIRST THING IS, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, CALL 911.

RIGHT? OTHERWISE, WE TAKE THE INFORMATION DOWN AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CONTACT THE LOCAL CONTACT THE PERSON THAT THE OWNER DESIGNATED TO RESPOND TO THESE TYPES OF ISSUES. BUT AS A NOISE ISSUE, IF YOU FEEL THAT DEEMS A IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY POLICE NUMBER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DAN SUGGESTED AND WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THIS NOW IS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM CALL, WHY DON'T YOU JUST TRANSFER THEM OVER TO THE NON-EMERGENCY CENTER, MAKE IT ONE KIND OF SMOOTH PROCESS.

GOOD IDEA. SO LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT.

ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD, AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE'VE HAD IS SOME OF THIS LEGACY DATA.

SOME OF THESE LOCAL CONTACTS HAVE BEEN IN THE SYSTEM FIVE YEARS MORE SIX, SEVEN YEARS.

WHO KNOWS IF THAT CONTACT IS STILL GOOD.

WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE NOT NECESSARILY BE RESPONSIVE, RIGHT? THEY DIDN'T ANSWER THE PHONE.

AND THEN PART OF THAT'S US TOO.

I LISTENED TO A VOICEMAIL THE OTHER DAY OF ONE OF THE MESSAGES THAT THE HOTLINE LEFT DIDN'T IDENTIFY THEMSELVES CLEARLY WHAT THE ISSUE WAS.

RIGHT? SO THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED AND WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE.

THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT THEY CALL THE HOTLINE AND THEY GET VOICEMAIL.

NO, NO, NO. WHEN WE CALL THE LOCAL CONTACT, RIGHT.

SO WHEN THE HOTLINE CALLS THE LOCAL CONTACT AND WE LEAVE A VOICEMAIL, I WANT THAT VOICEMAIL.

IF WE HAVE TO LEAVE ONE TO BE A LITTLE BIT CLEARER.

THIS IS THE GALVESTON HOTLINE, SHORT TERM RENTAL HOTLINE.

WE'RE CALLING ABOUT PROPERTY, ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

GIVE US A CALL BACK.

AND ISN'T THERE A WAY TO SAY THERE HAS TO BE A PHYSICAL PERSON THAT ANSWERS THE PHONE, NOT VOICEMAIL? SO THAT'S PART OF THE NEW SOFTWARE.

AND I THINK SOME OF THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY.

I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT CAN BE TAKEN BY THE CITY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, US CLEANING UP THE DATA ON THE BACK END WITH THE NEW SYSTEM.

WHEN YOU GO TO REGISTER A PROPERTY, THERE'S A LITTLE RADIUS THAT'S SET AROUND THE ISLAND.

OKAY, ABOUT ABOUT AN HOUR'S WORTH OF DRIVING.

YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO GET HERE IN AN HOUR.

AND WHEN YOU GO TO SET UP A LOCAL CONTACT, IT HAS TO FALL IN WITHIN THAT RADIUS, RIGHT? THE ZIP CODE OF THE ADDRESS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN HAS TO FALL IN THERE FOR THE CONTACTS THAT MAY NOT BE RESPONSIVE.

RIGHT. THEY DON'T SHOW UP TO AN ISSUE.

THEY DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE.

MAYBE SOME PUNITIVE ACTION, WHETHER THAT BE A CITATION, FINE.

WHATEVER I THINK WILL GO A LONG WAY.

BUT AS WE IDENTIFY THESE ISSUES, WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT THEM.

AND THE CITY HAS BEEN BEEN VERY USEFUL IN THAT REGARD WITH WITH DAN AND ROBERT AND BUTCH, I WANT TO THANK THEM SPECIFICALLY FOR TAKING THE TIME ON THIS.

BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE WORK OUT KINKS AND IT'LL JUST GET BETTER AND BETTER.

WE DID LAUNCH ON FRIDAY AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE A POPULAR TOOL, AN ONLINE COMPLAINT CENTER.

IT IS MOBILE FRIENDLY, SO YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND UPLOAD PICTURES, VIDEOS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

IT'S GETTING BETTER. THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY THAT IT'S OUT THERE.

CAN YOU SEND OUT ON A MONTHLY BASIS THE NUMBERS OF COMPLAINTS? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE 27 OPEN COMPLAINTS RIGHT NOW.

I CAN'T SAY THAT ALL OF THEM ARE LEGITIMATE.

WHO KNOWS? YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONE COMPLAINT THAT WE RECEIVED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE POOL AREA AT ONE OF THE SHORT TERM RENTALS THEY WERE STAYING AT.

WE CAN'T HELP WITH KEY ACCESS TO A POOL AREA, BUT THERE ARE ABOUT 27 COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE HAD LOGGED SINCE IT STARTED, NOT INCLUDING THE TEST COMPLAINTS.

AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE AS WE AS WE GO ALONG.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT DIVISION OF WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, RIGHT? IF IT'S A REGISTRATION ISSUE, THEY'RE NOT DISPLAYING THEIR LICENSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THE PARK BOARD CAN HANDLE.

WE CAN WORK WITH PLATFORMS TO GET THE ADVERTISEMENT REMOVED, POSSIBLY REVOKE THE LICENSE IF IT'S NOISE, TRASH, PARKING.

AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD STEP IN WITH YOUR RESOURCES AND HELP WITH.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT TO US WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WERE ACQUIRING THE SOFTWARE.

AND THAT'S GREAT.

BUT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE 27 OPEN ISSUES, HOW MUCH GOOD HAS IT DONE US IF WE GET TO MONDAY WITH 27 OPEN ISSUES? I MEAN, HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE NOISE? HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE TRASH? HOW MANY? WHAT YOU KNOW, MOST? IT'S MOSTLY, I THINK, NOISE THAT NEEDS AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, RIGHT? I MEAN, TRASH IS SOMETHING.

YEAH. THERE'S TRASH OUT THERE.

THE MARSHAL CAN DEAL WITH THAT TOMORROW.

PARKING, SAME SAME ANIMAL, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S IT'S MOSTLY NOISE.

I MEAN, SOMEBODY CORRECT ME IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT THERE COULD BE PARKING ISSUES.

YEAH, BUT BUT THEY COULD BE BLOCKING PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS AND SO FORTH.

THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S TRUE. BUT I MEAN, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT REQUIRE SOME IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.

IS THE HOTLINE PREPARED TO DO THAT? DO THEY THEY ATTEMPT TO MAKE A CONTACT WITH THE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY, WHOEVER THAT IS? I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE THEM NOT LEAVE.

YOU LEAVE A VOICEMAIL.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T SAY TO SOMEBODY YOU'RE UNDER ARREST.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T ANSWER YOUR PHONE AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW.

AND WHO IS THAT THEY'RE CALLING? WHAT WHAT IS THAT LIST?

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DO THEY HAVE OWNER? BECAUSE IN MANY CASES, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT AN OWNER.

IT'S A CORPORATE OFFICE SOMEPLACE.

RIGHT. AND WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? THAT'S KEY.

IF A NOISE COMPLAINT COMES IN ON SATURDAY NIGHT, WHAT WHAT IS THE WORKFLOW THERE? HOW DO YOU GET THAT RESOLVED IN A TIMELY FASHION? NOT NOT AN OPEN ISSUE ON MONDAY? SURE. SURE. SO ANY COMPLAINT THAT COMES IN THE LOCAL CONTACT IS CALLED, RIGHT? EVERY SINGLE ONE. ANY ANY COMPLAINT THAT COMES IN, THE LOCAL CONTACT IS GOING TO BE CONTACTED BY THE HOTLINE.

RIGHT. THEY ARE GOING TO GET THAT PHONE CALL.

IF IT IS, LET'S SAY, NOISE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AND THAT IS A BIG ONE.

THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE COMMON ONES THAT WE SEE IN THOSE INSTANCES RIGHT NOW.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE RECOMMEND TO THE CALLER IF THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, HANG UP AND CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY POLICE NUMBER. FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST FLOW.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING ON A SOLUTION RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY GET FORWARDED TO THE POLICE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER.

IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE FEW PEOPLE THAT I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH, THE POLICE ARE SHOWING UP AND ADDRESSING THOSE KINDS OF CONCERNS LIKE THEY DO.

RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS AND MAKE IT MORE CUSTOMER FRIENDLY.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? COUNCILMAN YOU'VE ONLY BEEN LIVE SINCE FRIDAY, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO ASK YOU FOR STATS AND YOU KNOW HOW HOW IT'S GOING SO FAR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE KEY TO OUR UNDERSTANDING.

SO AND ALONG YOUR LINES, YOU SAID THAT SOME OF THESE CONTACTS ARE FIVE YEARS OLD.

WELL, WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED THE NEW SYSTEM, WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A NEW CONTACT.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THAT.

THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I'VE BEEN DOING AND WE THINK THAT THAT'LL BE A GOOD TIME.

I MEAN, WE'LL PUT THE MESSAGE OUT NOW, BUT WE THINK HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY A LOT OF THAT WILL GET CLEARED UP DURING THE RENEWAL PROCESS.

RIGHT? SO IF THERE IS A LOCAL CONTACT THAT'S NOT TECHNICALLY LOCAL, WE HOPE THAT THE SYSTEM WILL IDENTIFY THAT AND THEN ASK THAT PERSON TO PROVIDE A BETTER CONTACT.

THERE'S ALSO MAYBE CONTACT VERIFICATION, RIGHT? WE'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IF YOU DO SIGN SOMEBODY UP, THEY HAVE TO KIND OF LIKE RESPOND TO THE EMAIL, THE INITIAL SETUP EMAIL OR VERIFY THE PHONE NUMBER OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE.

COUNCILMAN IF I MAY, WHEN SOMEBODY DOES CALL IN, WHETHER IT'S THE ONLINE COMPLAINT OR THE CALL CENTER, THAT THAT IT'S ON A 24 HOUR LAG RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE DAY HAS TO END BEFORE IT CAN GET UPLOADED INTO THE SYSTEM.

BUT WE DO GET THAT UPLOAD INTO THE SYSTEM.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT THIS MORNING WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE COMPLAINTS THAT CAME IN AND WE CAN GRANT ACCESS TO WHOEVER NEEDS THAT, RIGHT? SO WE'VE ALREADY GRANTED SOME ACCESS TO THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

IF THERE'S SOMEBODY AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR IF WE WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON OUR END MONITOR THOSE THINGS, IT GETS PUT IN THE SYSTEM.

AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE I TALKED ABOUT WITH DAN ON FRIDAY IS GETTING THAT REPORT BECAUSE IT IS EXPORTABLE TO EXCEL EVERY MONDAY, SENDING THAT TO WHOEVER ON CITY STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT SO WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE ACTION IS AND THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR DOING IT.

I UNDERSTAND EVERY RESPONDER, THE ISSUE OF WHERE'S THE REMOTE TO THE TV.

YOU KNOW, YOU GET THOSE CALLS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY AT ALL LEVELS.

YOU KNOW, IMAGINE GPD GETS THOSE CALLS.

BUT THE THINGS I THINK WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN SEEING IS THAT LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE, AS YOU SAY, THAT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR NOISE COMPLAINT, THEIR PARKING COMPLAINT, WHATEVER IS BEING ADDRESSED.

AND IF WE IF WE HAVE TO PUT THEM THROUGH TO GPD, RIGHT.

THEN THAT YOU DO THAT. I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A FINE PATH FORWARD, YOU KNOW, AND KNOWING WHAT THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE WERE, THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A MUCH MORE SATISFIED CITIZENRY IS KNOWING THAT THESE THINGS ARE BEING ADDRESSED.

THAT'S RIGHT. SHARON HAS A QUESTION.

SHARON, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE PARTLY ANSWERED THIS.

ONE, THE ONLINE COMPLAINT, DOES IT FALL IN A GENERIC EMAIL? WHO RECEIVES THOSE? SO IF I MAY, I'LL ANSWER IT.

IT'S A LOT LIKE THE PHONE CALLS AS SOON AS THAT COMES IN THE SYSTEM.

AND WHEN I SAY THE SYSTEM, THIS INCLUDES THE CALL CENTER.

THE CALL CENTER WILL GET THAT COMPLAINT TO YOU AND THEY IMMEDIATELY CONTACT THE LOCAL CONTACT.

RIGHT. GIVE A CALL AFTER THE COMPLAINT COMES IN.

IT ALSO TRIGGERS AN EMAIL TO PARK BOARD.

RIGHT. WE HAVE A GENERAL SHORT TERM RENTAL EMAIL ADDRESS THAT IT GOES TO WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN THE DATA ITSELF IS THEN UPLOADED INTO THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A MODULE FOR COMPLAINTS THAT YOU CAN GO IN AND TAKE A LOOK AND THEN YOU CAN MARK THEM OFF IF THEY'VE BEEN ADDRESSED OR NOT.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT PROCESS FLOWS IN EVERY INSTANCE, WHETHER IT'S A PHONE CALL OR AN ONLINE COMPLAINT, THE FIRST STEP IS TO CONTACT THAT LOCAL CONTACT TO.

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BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WAITING AROUND AN HOUR FOR NOISE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS AND GET THAT CALL FORWARDED TO THE POLICE IF NECESSARY.

SO WHEN THOSE COMPLAINTS GO IN VIA EMAIL, ARE THEY SEPARATED BY NOISE COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING? OR IT JUST GOES TO A GENERIC STOP OF EMAIL AND SOMEBODY SITTING THERE LOOKING AT THEM? YES. WHEN YOU GO ONLINE, THERE'S CATEGORIES, RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS IS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING WHAT'S THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT'S THE ISSUE? AND THERE'S RECIPIENT.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHO'S RECEIVING IT.

JUST A GENERIC PERSON IS RECEIVING ALL THOSE ONLINE.

SO THE ONLINE COMPLAINTS, THEY COME INTO THE CALL CENTER AND THEN IT GETS UPLOADED INTO OUR SYSTEM, RIGHT? SO AND I HAVE A STAFFER THAT GOES AND LOOKS AT THESE THINGS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHERE THAT GOES.

IF IT'S AN ISSUE THAT REQUIRES THE POLICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE DO HAVE IT'S INDICATED WHEN YOU GO TO FILL OUT ONLINE, IF THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, CALL 911.

IF IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY, BUT IT NEEDS IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE, CALL HERE.

RIGHT. IT'S HARD FOR US TO TRANSFER A PHONE CALL IF IT COMES IN VIA EMAIL.

BUT IF IT COMES IN, SOMEBODY'S ACTUALLY CALLING THE CALL CENTER, THEN WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN TRANSFER THAT OVER TO THE POLICE IF NECESSARY.

START. ARE YOU PRETTY PLEASED WITH THE SOFTWARE? IS THERE ANY PARTS OF IT THAT YOU.

WELL, THERE'S THERE'S STUFF THAT'S WORKING GREAT AND STUFF THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE ON.

ABSOLUTELY. WITH WITH ANY SOFTWARE LAUNCH.

THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT STUFF GOES.

THE DATA THAT WE'RE COLLECTING IS WONDERFUL.

WE HAVE A NICE INTERACTIVE MAP THAT I THINK IS VERY, VERY USEFUL WHERE YOU CAN ZOOM IN AND OUT AND IDENTIFY WHETHER IT'S A VALIDLY REGISTERED PROPERTY, NOT VALIDLY REGISTERED PROPERTY. AND WE'LL SEE.

AND AS WE COLLECT MORE DATA, WHAT'S GREAT IS IF YOU ACTUALLY GO INTO A PROPERTY PROFILE, IF THERE WAS A COMPLAINT ON IT THROUGH THE HOTLINE THAT SHOWS UP IN THEIR ACTIVITY FEED, ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN AND THIS WILL BE A HUGE AUDIT TOOL IS AS SOON AS YOU MAKE A LISTING, THERE'S A SCREENSHOT GRAB OF THAT, RIGHT, A PDF IF YOU WILL.

AND EVEN IF YOU TAKE THAT LISTING DOWN, THE SYSTEM WILL TRACK THAT.

THIS IS PART OF THAT PROPERTY'S HISTORY.

SO IF THERE WAS EVER AN INSTANCE WHERE SOMEBODY AUDITED, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT THAT AD WAS INITIALLY PUT UP AND CAPTURED, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO IMPROVE, ONE OF THEM WAS BULK PAYMENTS.

RIGHT. THERE ARE SOME OF THESE PROPERTY MANAGERS THAT HAVE 50 OR 100, 150 PROPERTIES.

WE WANTED PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND PAY IN BULK, RIGHT.

SO THEY CAN ACCESS ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES, ENTER IN THE INFORMATION AND MAKE ONE BIG PAYMENT AS OPPOSED TO A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUAL PAYMENTS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW WHEN IT COMES TO LEGACY, RIGHT? THERE'S JUST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OLD SYSTEM AND THE NEW SYSTEM FOR AN OWNER OR A PROPERTY MANAGER TO ACCESS THAT PROPERTY.

THERE'S A CENTRAL EMAIL, RIGHT, THAT HAS TO BE TIED TO THAT PROPERTY.

THAT'S HOW THEY LOG INTO IT.

THE OLD SYSTEM WASN'T LIKE THAT.

YOU WERE USERNAME PASSWORD AS OPPOSED TO TYING IT TO AN EMAIL.

WHAT WE'VE HAD THEN IS SOME PROPERTIES THAT HAVE EITHER CHANGED HANDS BETWEEN MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OR WHATEVER, OR THERE WAS DIFFERENT EMAILS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY. SO NOW THEY GO TO LOG IN AND THEY'RE MISSING SOME.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT IN THE SYSTEM, IT JUST WASN'T TIED TO THAT ONE EMAIL.

SO IT'S LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO TRY TO IMPROVE.

SO THERE'S BEEN SUCCESSES AND FAILURES.

WE HAVE USED THE SOFTWARE TO GET RID OF SOME BAD PLAYERS.

THERE WAS A ILLEGAL RENTAL THE OTHER DAY THAT WE WERE NOTIFIED BY CITY STAFF OF.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE PERMIT REVOKED AND THE LICENSE OR THE ADVERTISEMENT TAKEN DOWN.

WE HAD A SIMILAR PROPERTY THAT WAS JUST NOT VALIDLY REGISTERED.

THEY WERE USING A MADE UP NUMBER.

IT WAS FABRICATED.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT AND GET THAT LISTING TAKEN DOWN.

YOU LET ME INTERJECT HERE.

WE HAVE SOME AUDIENCE MEMBERS HAD THEIR HANDS UP.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, EITHER FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT TAKING INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC DURING THE MEETING, BUT RIGHT AFTER WE FINISH THIS MEETING, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND VISIT WITH US, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

MY QUESTION IS, OKAY, WHAT CONSTITUTES A RED FLAG? WHAT PUNITIVE ACTION THE THE PUNITIVE ACTIONS, THE DE-LISTING.

RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S EVENTUALLY WHAT THE KIND OF THE NUCLEAR OPTION IS.

JUST TAKE THEM OFF THE SYSTEM.

HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT POINT? SO THERE'S IN MY MIND, I THINK THERE'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO NOISE, TRASH AND PARKING.

THE PARK BOARD ITSELF CAN ISSUE A CITATION FOR THAT.

RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE MOST PUNITIVE THING THAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS REMOVE THE LISTING.

AND THAT TENDS TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE THING THAT WE CAN DO.

AND I WOULD SAY FOR PARK BOARD'S INFORMATION AND COUNCILS, I VISITED WITH DON ON THIS, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO PROVIDE PENALTIES.

AND SO THAT WOULD HELP WITH ENFORCEMENT FOR THOSE ENTITIES THAT DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.

I THINK MY QUESTION TO BRIAN, THOUGH, WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET HOW MANY NOISE COMPLAINTS CONSTITUTES A RED FLAG.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

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AND THEN, DAVID, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR SO THE PERSON GETS THE CALL, LET'S SAY IT'S NOISE THEY CALL THEY GET A VOICE MAIL.

DO THEY CALL THAT PERSON BACK IN 30 MINUTES? YES. SO ABOUT EVERY 15 MINUTES OVER THE COURSE OF AN HOUR.

SO THE COMPLAINT COMES IN.

WE LOG ALL THAT INFORMATION.

THE CALL CENTER THEN IMMEDIATELY CONTACTS THE LOCAL CONTACT.

IF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A VOICEMAIL, 15 MINUTES LATER, WE'LL CALL THEM AGAIN.

15 MINUTES LATER, WE CALL THEM AGAIN UNTIL YOU REACH THE END OF THAT HOUR.

SO YOU ENDED UP PLACING FOUR CALLS AT THAT POINT.

IF YOU DON'T GET A RESPONSE, WE GOT TO MOVE ON.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT OTHER CALLS COMING IN AND THEN WE'LL TRACK THAT.

AND THAT KIND OF TIES INTO DAVID'S ISSUE.

OKAY. IF THAT HAPPENS.

RIGHT. AND THEY DIDN'T RESPOND, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? ARE WE GOING TO ISSUE A CITATION TO FIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT? AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL WORK. YOU SAID HOW MANY COMPLAINTS YOU HAD, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SAID HOW MANY PHONE CALLS YOU HAD SINCE IT STARTED.

I WOULD SAY OUT OF THE 27 COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE GOT, I WOULD SAY MAYBE 2 OR 3 CAME FROM ONLINE BECAUSE THE ONLINE VERSION JUST LAUNCHED ON FRIDAY.

WE JUST GOT THAT UP AND GOING PHONE CALLS.

YOU'VE RECEIVED 100 PHONE CALLS SINCE YOU STARTED.

YOU'VE RECEIVED.

I'D HAVE TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT SPECIFICALLY, HOW MANY INDIVIDUAL CALLS WE'VE GOTTEN.

DAVID? YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY KEY MOMENT IN TIME FOR BOTH THE PARK BOARD AND THE CITY RELATED TO SHORT TERM RENTAL MANAGEMENT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE, I THINK, MOUNTAINS OF PROGRESS OVER THE PAST SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AS WE'VE BEEN INUNDATED WITH WITH ALL OF THESE.

I WOULD SAY THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR, AS WE START TO IMPLEMENT THIS SYSTEM, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RECEIVING BACK ALL SORTS OF DATA.

AND YOU'RE ALREADY POINTING TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD, AND I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT MAYBE WE BRING UP AT A FUTURE WORKSHOP AFTER THE BUDGET, THE IDEA OF REINSTITUTING AN STR TASK FORCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE, BECAUSE WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS THAT WE REALLY PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THE LEVEL OF DOCUMENTATION TO THE OWNERS, OPERATORS AND RENTERS, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL VALUE TO THEM AS A PART OF THEIR REGISTRATION FEES.

ALSO LOOKING AT HOW WE ENHANCE CUSTOMER SERVICE, WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK LOOP NOT ONLY TO THE OWNERS AND OPERATORS, BUT ALSO TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING IN THOSE VIOLATIONS? HOW DO YOU CLOSE THEM OUT? IS THERE A IS THERE A NUMBER PROVIDED THAT THEY CAN LOOK UP ONLINE? THE IDEA OF A CALL CENTER FLOW CHART, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BASIC ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

I'M AN OWNER. I HAVE THESE RESPONSIBILITIES.

I'M AN OPERATOR. I HAVE THESE RESPONSIBILITIES.

I'M A PLATFORM.

I HAVE THESE RESPONSIBILITIES.

THE IDEA OF ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES AND COSTS.

WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND THEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS ITEM THE IDEA OF ADJUDICATION.

RIGHT. THREE STRIKES, YOU'RE OUT, FIVE STRIKES, YOU'RE OUT TEN STRIKES.

WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU KEEP OPERATING FOREVER.

WHAT IS WHAT'S THE THRESHOLD BY WHICH WE HOLD THESE OWNERS, OPERATORS AND PLATFORMS ACCOUNTABLE? SO I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO KIND OF CONSIDER THAT I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT TIME TO REALLY STEP THAT OUT.

THE IDEA OF MAYBE AN STR HANDBOOK THAT IS ONLINE IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUTLINES ALL THESE ISSUES FOR EVERYBODY.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A GROUP PUT TOGETHER THAT CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED.

IT'LL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL AT A WORKSHOP VERY QUICKLY.

GREAT. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

IF I IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT.

ALL THAT'S GOOD STUFF. AND I WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST HOTLINE THAT I'VE HAD TO PUT UP, SO ANY FEEDBACK WOULD BE GREAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, AND THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING AND FOR THE PUBLIC OUT THERE, THE PARK BOARD DOES HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL WEBPAGE THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY DEVELOPING.

THERE IS FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON THERE.

THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN SEARCH FOR THERE.

THERE'S A GOOD NEIGHBOR BROCHURE THAT'S GEARED MORE TOWARDS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING IN SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THEN THERE'S AN INFORMATIONAL CARD GEARED MORE TOWARDS OWNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS THINK THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY ADD TO THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO? I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THIS.

AND IT'S A PROCESS, RIGHT? LIKE YOU SAID, IT TAKES SOME TIME.

JASON SO THIS IS A, I THINK, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A COLLABORATION THAT CAN OCCUR BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN COLLINS, HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE LEVELS OF SERVICE, I THINK THAT THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE PRIORITIZE AND PERHAPS THERE COULD BE A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN OUR STAFFS MAYBE TO BE AS PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE WHILE WE INITIATE THIS, BECAUSE I'VE TOLD PEOPLE ALREADY THE THE CALL CENTER IN THE HOTLINE IS THE WORST THAT'S EVER GOING TO BE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S ONLY GOING TO IMPROVE OVER TIME.

IT WILL EVOLVE OVER TIME AND WE ARE GOING TO TO MAKE IT AS BEST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

BUT WE HAVE NO PREMONITION THAT WE WERE GOING TO COME OUT WITH A PERFECT MODEL ON ITS FIRST WEEKEND.

SO MAYBE IF THERE COULD BE A STANDING AVAILABILITY FOR THE.

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MAYBE WHEN IT COMES TO LEGAL COMPLIANCE ENFORCEMENT REGISTRATION COLLECTIONS THAT COULD BE IN ONE CENTRAL LOCATION.

WE COULD HOST IT OR IT COULD BE ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND THAT OPERATORS AND INTERESTED PARTIES COULD COME TO THAT ONE SINGLE LOCATION AND AND MEET WITH ANY OF THE PERTINENT STAFF MEMBERS THAT THEY MAY HAVE AS IT RELATES TO SHORT TERM RENTALS.

AND BRYSON, I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO FOR YOU TO SHARE THE PHONE TREE OR THE SOPS THAT YOU HAVE WITH JANELLE SO THAT SHE CAN DISTRIBUTE IT TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW IT.

SURE. AND FROM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN COLLINS HAD HAS BEEN ONE ON MY MIND AS WELL ABOUT THE PUNITIVE ACTIONS.

SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS NOT A PART BOARD ISSUE.

THAT'S A POLICY FOR CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE'LL AWAIT THAT PROCESS AS WELL AND SEE WHAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN RESPONSE, IF ANYTHING, AS THAT COMES BACK AND AS IF A TASK FORCE IS FORMED, THEN I CERTAINLY AM SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND I'M HAPPY TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO BE ON THAT TASK FORCE.

SOUNDS GOOD. AND BRYSON, I WOULD MENTION, TOO, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE TWEAKING THIS FLOW CHART BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU'LL BE MAKING WITH THINGS IF YOU COULD GET A NEW COPY OF THAT TO JANELLE.

SO JANELLE COULD DISTRIBUTE THAT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. GOOD.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS SUBJECT? JASON ANY FROM FROM YOUR BOARD.

LET'S MOVE TO 3A6, PLEASE.

[3.A.6. Discussion Of Trash Control Of The Northern Section Of San Luis Pass (Brown)]

THIS MAY BE A VERY QUICK ONE.

THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION SINCE I CAN REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED ON THE ISLAND MANY 25 YEARS AGO.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRASH ON THE NORTHERN END OF SAN LUIS POINT.

NOW, WE HAVE DISCUSSED INTERNALLY THAT ISSUE WITH THE PARK BOARD.

AND KIMBERLY, DID YOU WANT TO UPDATE US ON SOME THOUGHTS YOU HAVE ON THAT OR WE TALK ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST ON THAT? CERTAINLY HAPPY HAPPY TO SHARE AT THE TABLE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD IN THE MEETING, AND THAT IS THAT THE PARK BOARD IS CHARGED WITH MAINTAINING THE BEACHES UP UNTIL THE SOUTHERN POINT OF THE SAN LUIS PASS.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE BRIDGE, WE STAY SOUTH OF THAT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THAT FOR PERSPECTIVE AND JUST SOME HISTORY, THAT PART OF THE PASS WAS NOT ALWAYS NAVIGABLE BY A CAR, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S A REALLY DYNAMIC SYSTEM OUT THERE.

THE SAND STARTS TO BUILD UP AND AS THE SAND BUILDS UP, PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO DRIVE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO DRIVE OUT THERE, THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS, AND THAT LEADS TO TRASH AND ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS.

AND IF YOU'VE SEEN PICTURES OUT AT THE PASS, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO THAT'S BEEN RELATIVELY NEW.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WITH COVID, WE SAW THE INFLUX OF VISITATION AND PEOPLE WANTING TO BE OUTDOORS SO THAT THAT THAT PART HAS BECOME VERY POPULAR.

THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OF THE BEACH.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT NOT ONLY THE SAND, BUT YOU LOOK AT THE TRAILS THAT LEAD TO THE SAND, WHERE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING IS LARGER THAN THE FOOTPRINT OF EAST BEACH.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES WHO MAINTAIN THAT.

SO THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WHO WHO OWNS ALL OF THE PARCEL? WE KNOW THAT PART OF IT IS THE COUNTY.

I THINK THAT PART OF IT IS PRIVATE.

WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO TO GO TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS? IF THE PARK BOARD IS GOING TO MAINTAIN IT, THEN WE'VE GOT TO EVALUATE WHAT OUR COSTS WOULD BE.

WE SIMPLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CREW OF ABOUT SEVEN PEOPLE THAT OPERATE BETWEEN THE END OF THE SEAWALL AND THE SAN LUIS PASS.

AND TO ADD ON ANOTHER FOOTPRINT THAT'S APPROXIMATELY THE SIZE OF EAST BEACH PARK WOULD TAKE ADDITIONAL LABOR AND EQUIPMENT AND TOOLS.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO ADDRESS LITTER.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE PROVEN THAT WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT, I THINK.

BUT MAKING SURE THAT THE RESOURCES ARE THERE, WHETHER IT'S COMING FROM THE COUNTY, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I'M NOT SURE.

I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES TO WHAT USE DO WE WANT OUT THERE? BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS A VERY UNSAFE AREA FOR PEOPLE TO BE IN THE WATER.

AND I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT KIMBERLY TO GO OUT THERE AND MAKE THIS THE NEXT BEST THING TO SLICE BREAD.

AND THEN WE'RE ENTICING PEOPLE TO PUT KIDS AND PEOPLE IN THE WATER WHERE IT'S NOT SAFE.

SO WE NEED TO REALLY I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT WE ARE QUICKLY APPROACHING LOOKING AT AN OVERALL PLAN FOR SAN LUIS PASS BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY GOING TO BE EXACERBATED IF OUR BEACH ACCESS PLAN IS CHANGED AND SUNNY BEACH LOSES VEHICULAR ACCESS, IT'S GOING TO DRIVE MORE PEOPLE TO THE AREAS WHERE WE DO HAVE VEHICULAR ACCESS.

SO WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO MANAGE THAT.

AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE GOOD ACCESS OUT THERE NOW.

BUT TO TRY TO CLOSE ACCESS IS CRAZY BECAUSE WE COUNTED THE OTHER DAY.

I MEAN, THERE'S 30 DIFFERENT WAYS TO ACCESS THIS AREA.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT. AND DROP $5 AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE CLOSED THIS OFF, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

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WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN FOR OUT HERE BECAUSE IT IS QUICKLY APPROACHING A BEYOND PROBLEM STATUS.

THERE'S NO DOUBT. MARIE AND THEN DAVID AND THIS IS INDEED A BIG ISSUE.

IT'S ONE I GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT ALL THE TIME.

A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE GROUPS OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE FORMED TOGETHER THAT THEY GO OUT AND CLEAN IT, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE OUR TAXPAYERS DUTY TO CLEAN IT.

BUT THERE ARE ALSO BLUE CANS THERE.

IF THEY'RE BLUE CANS THERE, IT MAY BE THAT PEOPLE HAVE RELOCATED THEM.

THE PARK BOARD HAS NOT PLACED BLUE BLUE CANS.

AND WHAT WE ARE I GET PICTURES OF STUFF CANS AND IT'S SO HARD OUT THERE.

IT'S NOT LIKE WHERE WE MAINTAIN EAST BEACH WHERE THEY CAN GET THE TRUCKS TO THE CANS.

WE WE STRUGGLE JUST GETTING EMERGENCY VEHICLES OUT THERE OFF ROAD, EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO PEOPLE.

SO IT'S MAINTAINING AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN BECAUSE AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW AND SOON YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WALK ACROSS, IT IS BEING HIGHLY USED.

WELL, THE MORE THE MORE THE MORE IT FILLS IN THE THE STRONGER THE CURRENT IS THROUGH THERE, TOO.

SO IT BECOMES INCREASINGLY MORE DANGEROUS.

ONE GOOD STORM. WELL, AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT HELPS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL AND THE TRUSTEES ARE AWARE THAT THE PARK BOARD ISN'T NOT ADDRESSING THIS.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A PROBLEM.

SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE NOT BEEN SENDING STAFF OUT THERE NECESSARILY, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WORKING THROUGH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL COORDINATOR, ELIZABETH SCHNEIDER.

AND WHENEVER WE DO RECEIVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT LARGE VOLUMES OF TRASH OR WHETHER IT'S A HOLIDAY WEEKEND, THAT SORT OF THING, SHE WILL WORK WITH OUR LOCAL NONPROFITS, OUR NGOS TO GO IN AND SAY TURTLE ISLAND RESTORATION NETWORK OR AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY.

THEY'LL BRING IN A VERY LARGE VOLUNTEER GROUP TO COME AND COLLECT THE TRASH.

THEY'LL SET IT SOUTH OF THE BRIDGE AND OUR CREWS WILL GO IN AND COLLECT THAT TRASH AND DISPOSE OF IT.

BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT EVERY DAY.

GETTING VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE EVERY DAY IS A CHALLENGE.

THAT WAS THE NEXT THING I WAS GOING TO SAY.

YOU CAN'T. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ADDRESSING IT NOW.

IT'S NOT A LONG TERM GREAT THAT THAT THAT WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS WHO WILL GO IN AND HELP CLEAN THIS UP.

BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

MARIA IS CORRECT. WE NEED A WE NEED A WIDE VIEW PLAN OF THIS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE GARBAGE YOU'VE GOT YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO LIFEGUARD OUT THERE.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT A 17 YEAR OLD IN A TOWER IN THAT CURRENT OR ANYTHING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR POLICE TO GET OUT THERE.

I MEAN, COPS DO GO OUT THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GENERALLY EQUIPPED WITH THE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT GENERALLY EQUIPPED TO TAKE ON THE SAND AND THE SPACE OUT THERE.

AND WE DON'T PATROL IT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST SO REMOTE.

WE HAVE OFFICERS ON HORSES AND THINGS.

WE RUN SPECIAL DETAILS OUT THERE.

IT'S RUNNING THROUGH YOUR OVERTIME.

IT'S IT'S BUT IT IS HARD.

IT IS HARD. IT IS.

AND YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S A BEACH SAFETY ISSUE.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS GPDS TO TO FINANCE TO FUND.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEACH SAFETY.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT'S WHAT IT WOULD COST IF YOU IF YOU TOOK ON THE TASK OF POLICING THE WHOLE TRASH, THE WHOLE AREA, WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST US? WHAT WOULD THAT REQUIRE? I REALIZE IT'S NOT TRIVIAL, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE.

AND AND WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTY WILL CONTRIBUTE.

AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHO THE OTHER PLAYERS ARE HERE AND WHO WHO WHO SHOULD WE TALKING TO? YEAH. DAVID FINK YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SUMMARIZE.

I WAS GOING DOWN THE SAME ROAD.

SO YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE AWARE OF THE ISSUE.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS OBVIOUSLY A CONDITION ASSESSMENT, THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, SOME SORT OF PROJECT PLAN THAT DEFINES HOW HOW WE ADDRESS THE RISKS AND HOW DO WE MITIGATE THOSE.

AT A MINIMUM, NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT JUST HOW DO WE MITIGATE THE RISK THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE OR THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE? WHAT'S KIND OF YOUR YOU THINK IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME FRAME ON KIND OF DEVELOPING SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WELL, WE COULD WE COULD GET THAT TO YOU IN A WEEK OR TWO.

OKAY. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WE KNOW WE WE TRACK OUR CLEANING COSTS COST PRETTY QUICKLY AND EASILY BECAUSE OF FEMA.

SO WE'VE GOT IT DOWN TO A SCIENCE.

WE CAN GET THAT PRETTY FAST. SO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

JASON SO, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN FINKEL, YOU DID A GREAT JOB, I THINK OF SUMMARIZING.

I THINK FROM A BOARD PERSPECTIVE, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THIS IS KIND OF WHEN WE LEAVE THIS MEETING, SIMILAR DIRECTION TO THE RAMPS BETWEEN 91ST AND 61ST IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS WE CAN LEAD THOSE EFFORTS TO COORDINATING WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST SOLUTION AND BRING SOMETHING BACK AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO.

I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD BE MORE ANTI TRASH.

I DON'T WANT THE TRASH TO PILE UP OUT THERE.

FRANKLY, IT DISGUST ME THAT THAT HAPPENS.

SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE PARK BOARD IS PRIORITIZING THIS AND AND READY TO RECEIVE DIRECTION ON IT.

SHORT TERM SOLUTION. I WOULD ASSUME WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE THE NGO GROUPS AS AS BEST AS WE CAN.

[02:40:08]

I MEAN, THE SAFETY ISSUE OUT THERE CERTAINLY IS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.

SO WE CAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS.

AND I BELIEVE OUR STAFFS ARE ONCE AGAIN COINCIDING AND ACTING PARALLEL HERE, ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONTINUES AS WELL.

VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? RYAN? I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT WORKING WITH KIMBERLY, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO OUT THERE AND PRESENT SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL HERE.

YEAH. AND LET US LET US WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE IT'S ULTIMATELY IT'S THE CITY THAT'S GETTING THE CALL.

SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ADDRESSING OUR CITIZENS.

YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH, I FORGIVE ME, I FORGOT ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES IS AND ALSO AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO EXTEND THOSE EFFORTS AS WELL.

JASON, DID YOU WANT TO CLOSE YOUR PARK BOARD MEETING AND THEN I'LL CLOSE COUNCILS.

ABSOLUTELY. SO WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL BY THE PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF CITY COUNCIL AT 11:41 A.M.

AND COUNCIL.

I WANTED TO IT'S 11:41 A.M.

I WANT TO WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA.

I THINK IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.

IT WAS LONGER THAN I THOUGHT, BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY GOOD.

AND WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS DISCUSSED.

BEFORE I CLOSE THIS MEETING, I WANT TO POLITICALLY SAY LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE DO NOT FEEL THAT A DEMOLITION DERBY IS THE SAME AS A BIRD SANCTUARY.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IN THE IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY IT IS.

11:42 A.M..

THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.