OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
[Landmark Commission on June 5, 2023.]
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I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.TODAY IS MONDAY, JUNE 5TH, AND THE TIME IS 4:00.
WE WILL START OUR MEETING WITH ROLL CALL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF THE CASES THAT WE ARE SEEING TODAY? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? DO WE SEE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE? NO, NONE.
NANCY. OKAY, MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
PUBLIC COMMENT, CATHERINE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED.
ALL RIGHTY THEN. MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA.
A TAX VERIFICATION FOR 23LC-0514 17TH STREET.
AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
THAT'S RIGHT. SO THIS IS A TAX VERIFICATION FOR 514 17TH STREET.
THEY HAVE MET THE MINIMUM COST REQUIREMENTS.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
AND THEN ALSO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE 1622 BALL, WHICH IS A SIDE ADDITION THAT HAS SOME PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED ON THIS AND THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN A PRINTOUT AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH NO CHANGES.
OKAY. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE DOING YEAH, TWO PROPERTIES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WHY AM I ONLY SEEING ONE ON MINE? YEAH, YEAH.
THERE ARE TWO. THERE'S SIX A AND SIX B.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY WANT EITHER OF THESE PROPERTIES PULLED FROM THE AGENDA SO THAT THEY CAN BE REVIEWED FURTHER? NO. OKAY. THE CONSENT.
WE HAVE TWO PROPERTIES. 1622 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS? NOT FOR THE TAX VERIFICATION.
ONLY FOR THAT. RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. I'M SORRY.
THE FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE APPROVING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS FOR THE TAX VERIFICATION, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE 517 17TH STREET AND 1622 BALL.
1622 BALL ALSO IS A CASE FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT AFTER THIS.
OKAY. SO THE ADDITION IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, CORRECT? OKAY. SORRY, I MISREAD THAT.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
I DO WANT TO DISCUSS 1622 BALL.
I DON'T NOT ABOUT THE TAX VERIFICATION..
VERIFICATION, BUT THE ADDITION I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DISCUSS.
OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? NO. OKAY. CAN WE PLEASE MOVE 1622 BALL STREET OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE ADDITION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING THE TAX VERIFICATION FOR THAT? OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? SHARON. DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
NOW MOVING FORWARD, NEW BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE WILL LOOK AT 1622 BALL, WHICH IS FOR THE ADDITION.
12 NOTICES WERE SENT, FIVE RETURNED, ONE IN FAVOR AND FOUR IN OPPOSITION.
THE DRAWINGS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT INDICATE THE FOLLOWING SCOPE OF WORK AND MATERIALS.
SMOOTH TEXTURE FOR THE SIDING.
SOFFITS AND TRIM WOOD WINDOWS AND COMPOSITION ROOFING.
THE EXISTING HOUSE IS WOOD FRAMED WITH WOOD LAP SIDING AND A COMPOSITION ROOF.
PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
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CONFORMANCE STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES.THE MODIFICATIONS ARE IN LOCATION.
SEE LESS VISIBLE SECONDARY WALL AT THIS LOCATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
TWO ANY HISTORIC MATERIAL REMOVED SHALL BE RETAINED ON SITE OR PROVIDED TO A THIRD PARTY FOR REUSE.
ITEMS THREE THROUGH SEVEN ARE STANDARD AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED ADDITION.
THE HERE IS THE EXISTING SOUTH ELEVATION AND THE PROPOSED SOUTH ELEVATION.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
AN EXHIBIT A ON THE NEW WINDOWS, WHICH IS SHOWING IS ONE OVER ONE.
IT'S SHOWING THEM AS DOUBLE HUNG.
BUT IN THE SCHEDULE, WE'RE SEEING A CASEMENT WINDOW IN ADDITION.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THE ONE OVER ONE IS NOT THE CASEMENT WINDOW.
IT IS THIS ONE THAT HAS A TILT SASH ON IT.
SO CAN YOU VERIFY WHAT ARE WE APPROVING HERE? WHICH WINDOW ARE WE APPROVING? ON THE DRAWING IT SHOWS A ONE OVER ONE AND YOU CAN SEE THE ARROWS SHOWING THAT IT'S A DOUBLE HUNG, BUT IN THE SCHEDULE IT'S SHOWING A CASEMENT WINDOW.
BOTH ARE WOOD CLAD, BUT WHICH IS IT? ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT WITH THE APPLICANT? OKAY. SO YOU WANT US TO CONFIRM IT..
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WERE ALL OPERABLE.
NOW, SEE THE TWO HERE? ONE'S A CASEMENT, ONE'S A ONE OVER ONE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? HERE WE GO. CATHERINE QUESTION.
SO THAT TO ME INDICATES A DOUBLE SASH.
YEAH. SO I DON'T SEE WHERE THOSE OCCUR ON THE DRAWINGS.
SO WE CAN WHEN IT'S THE APPLICANT'S TURN, WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
I WAS LOOKING ALSO AT EXHIBIT A IN THE NARRATIVE WHERE IT SAYS THAT AFTER THE ADDITION IS.
JUST PUT ON WILL STILL BE 9.5FT FROM THE LOT LINE TO THE EAST.
AND [INAUDIBLE], ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS MAIN CONCERNS.
BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SURVEY THAT'S PROVIDED MOCKED UP, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ADD UP THE FEET BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE PROPERTY LINE. IF IT'S A 16 FOOT ADDITION AND THERE'S 9.62FT LEFT, THAT'S WHAT, 25, ALMOST 26FT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOWS IF THEY HAD 26FT TO START WITH.
I'M JUST CONFUSED HOW CLOSE IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE TO THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
WELL, THE DIMENSION THAT'S PROVIDED IS THE 9.62FT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT'S PROVIDED.
I'M QUESTIONING IF IT'S CORRECT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL SURVEY AND ADD THE FEET THAT ARE DESCRIBED IN THE NARRATIVE, I DON'T THINK I'M PROBABLY DOING IT WRONG, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S NOT THAT MANY FEET THERE.
IT ADDS UP TO MORE FEET AND IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
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I THINK. HMM.OKAY. SO IF YOU ADD THE 16 AND THE 9.6 TO THAT, YOU GET 25.62.
THERE IS NOT A DIMENSION TO THIS PROPERTY LINE PROVIDED ON THE SURVEY.
THERE'S A DIMENSION HERE, NOT A PROPERTY LINE TO THIS HOUSE.
AND. WAIT A MINUTE. THAT'S 5.5.62, NOT NINE.
WELL, SO WE CAN AGAIN, WE CAN VERIFY THIS WITH THE APPLICANT.
YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT BETWEEN THE, THE THE ADDITION AND THE LOT LINE IS SHOWING 9.62.
WHAT COMPLAINTS ARE WE GETTING FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT ALL THESE.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE OWNERS.
YES? WOULD YOU LIKE TO STEP FORWARD? PLEASE? STATE YOUR NAME.
SIGN IN AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROJECT AND LET US ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
AND WE'RE WANTING TO PUT ON A 16 BY 26 EDITION.
ESSENTIALLY, IT'S GOING TO JUST BE A MASTER SUITE.
IT'S GOING TO BE BATHROOM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.
AS FAR AS THE SURVEY IS CONCERNED, WE ARE 9.62FT FROM THE LOT LINE.
THEIR HOUSE IS VERY CLOSE TO OURS.
OUR LOT LINE, IT'S LIKE, WHAT, SIX INCHES.
SO WHEN WE PLAN THIS, WE PLAN TO STAY, YOU KNOW, 9.5FT PLUS AWAY FROM IT, WHICH IS A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE THAN MOST PROPERTIES THESE DAYS.
YOU CAN REACH OUT AND TOUCH THE OTHER HOUSE.
THAT'S WHAT WE THOUGHT. WE WERE BEING UBER CONSERVATIVE ON HIS ACCOUNT TO STAY AWAY FROM HIS PROPERTY. SO THAT'S I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE GONE BIGGER IF WE WANTED TO USE OUR LOT, BUT WE DIDN'T.
UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE KIND OF SENTIMENTS DON'T APPLY IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
YOUR PROPERTY CLEARLY MEETS THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO. BUT IF THERE'S AS FAR AS THE WINDOWS ARE CONCERNED, SOMEBODY BROUGHT THAT UP.
YEAH, THEY'RE DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS.
AND I ALSO NOTICED ON THAT EAST SIDE, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WINDOWS PLANNED ON THAT SIDE.
NO, THAT WAS AN ERROR ON THE CAD DRAWING.
THAT WILL BE THE SIDE OF THE BEDROOM AND WE WILL HAVE THE WINDOWS OF SOME.
SO THOSE WILL COME BACK TO CATHERINE FOR FINAL APPROVAL OF THE WINDOWS ON THE SIDE.
ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. NO.
OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS CASE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? NO. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
WE HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THE WINDOWS.
THEY ARE ONE OVER ONE. WE HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THE SETBACK.
WE KNOW THAT THIS CASE MEETS THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, THE STANDARDS OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
THAT IS PAST STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 23LC-020 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OLD BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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THIS IS CASE 23, DASH 0188 11 12TH STREET.ONE RETURNED. THAT ONE IN FAVOR.
A NEW TALLER RAILING WAS INSTALLED.
PLEASE NOTE THIS WORK WAS COMPLETED WITHOUT PERMITS OR HISTORIC REVIEW.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING REPLACEMENT OF THE FRONT DOOR.
THE CURRENT FRONT DOOR IS WOOD PANELED WITH A HALF GLASS INSERT.
THE PROPOSED FRONT DOOR IS WOOD WITH SIX PANELS.
PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND CONFORMANCE.
THE DESIGN STANDARDS STATE THAT AN ORIGINAL PORCH SHALL BE MAINTAINED.
HOWEVER, THE RAILING WAS LOWER THAN THE REPLACEMENT AND WAS OF A SIMPLE SQUARE DESIGN.
THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE BEEN SEEKING TO MATCH THE RAILING ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE PORCH.
HOWEVER, THAT RAILING IS NOT ORIGINAL AND THE SPINDLES ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR EXTERIOR USE.
THE TYPE OF THIN SPINDLES FOUND ON THE FIRST FLOOR PORCH ARE FOR INTERIOR USE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CURRENT DOOR BE RETAINED.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REQUEST BE APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX ARE STANDARD.
OKAY. SO THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS FROM BEFORE THE WORK OCCURRED.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE RAILING ON THE TOP OF THE PORCH, SECOND FLOOR PORCH.
AND THEN THIS IS A CURRENT PHOTOGRAPH SHOWING A TALLER RAILING WITH A DIFFERENT DESIGN.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF MR. OR MRS. THOMAS IS HERE.
NO, NOBODY'S HERE FOR 12TH STREET.
OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS CASE? NO. OKAY.
OKAY. I PROPOSE THAT WE APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR 23 LC 018.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? JANE. OKAY.
I LIKE I APPRECIATE STAFF'S COMMENTS IN THIS REPORT BECAUSE I SEE IT SO OFTEN WHERE YOU POINTED OUT THAT THE PICKETS THAT WERE USED WERE ACTUALLY FOR INTERIOR USE, NOT EXTERIOR.
BUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. EVERYBODY IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
MOVING FORWARD, NEW BUSINESS ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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THIS IS FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.THIS IS CASE 23LC-24, 1712 CHURCH STREET.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING REPLACEMENT OF PLATE GLASS, PORTION CLOSURE, NEW SIDE PORCH AND REPLACEMENT WINDOWS AND DOORS.
SEVEN NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RETURNED.
THE DESIGN. PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES CONFORMANCE.
STAFF HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED PORCH ADDITION.
THE PROPOSED NEW PORCH IS LOCATED IN LOCATION A, PRIMARY FACADE.
THE DESIGN STANDARDS STATE THE FOLLOWING NEW ADDITIONS SHOULD BE SIMPLE IN SIZE AND SHAPE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE NEW WINDOWS BE IN A ONE OVER ONE LIGHT CONFIGURATION.
STAFF FINDS THE REMAINDER OF THE SCOPE OF WORK GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE WEST AND NORTH FACADES ARE LOCATED IN LOCATION D NOT TYPICALLY VISIBLE REAR FACADE WHERE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TREATMENT MAY BE CONSIDERED ESPECIALLY FOR COMPATIBLE REPLACEMENT OR ALTERATION THAT IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
TWO ANY HISTORIC MATERIAL REMOVED, SUCH AS THE WINDOWS ON THE EAST FACADE SHALL BE RETAINED ON SITE OR PROVIDED TO A THIRD PARTY FOR REUSE AND THEN ITEMS THREE THROUGH SEVEN ARE STANDARD. AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED PORCH AND WINDOW AND DOOR CHANGES.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AND ROOF PLAN SHOWING THE PORCH ADDITION.
AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED FRONT ELEVATION.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
IN THE NEW DRAWING FROM HERE, THIS BECOMES A ROOF LINE.
SO IS THIS PORCH UP HERE NOT ORIGINAL? THAT PORCH IS RETAINED.
I DON'T THINK IT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ORIGINAL OR NOT, BUT SO THAT RAILING IS PROPOSED TO REMAIN.
AND THEN THAT PORCH ROOF TAKES PLACE IN FRONT OF IT.
OKAY, SO IT'S THERE, BUT IT JUST BECOMES A BACK PORCH.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS PROPOSED TO CHANGE THERE.
WHY AM I NOT SEEING IT IN THE DRAWINGS ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
AM I LOOKING AT THE WRONG DRAWING? YOU CAN SEE THE ELEVATION IN THIS.
WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS THE EAST.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXISTING RAILING IS THERE AND HAS A CALL OUT.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE FRONT ELEVATION HAS A CALL OUT.
I SEE IT WITH THE WINDOWS BEHIND IT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF MR. WATSON, THE ARCHITECT, OR MR. MRS. WELLMAN, WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
WELL, MR. WATSON, IF YOU COULD SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME.
WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES FOR THE PORCH, SO..
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YOU SEE THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK EVERYWHERE.NANCY, WE WON'T HAVE A WAY TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, BUT IT ELIMINATES THE PORCH ROOF, AND IT HAS THAT HIPPED ROOF AND HAS JUST A FLAT PORCH ROOF OVER THE PORCH ON THE FRONT.
ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS DAVID WATSON.
I'M THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT.
THE QUESTION ON THE RAILING ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THAT IS NOT ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE.
IT'S THE SAME JIGSAW PATTERN RAILING AS ON THE REST OF THE HOUSE.
AND WHAT WE'VE GOT IS, IF YOU NOTICE, IT'S LIFTED UP THAT DECK LEVEL AT THAT POINT IS THE FLOOR LEVEL IN THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THERE IS A SPACE BETWEEN THE BOTTOM OF THE DECK AND THE ROOF.
THE ROOF IS LEAKING AND THEN THE SIDE IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
SO WE'RE GOING TO RAISE EVERYTHING UP.
SO IT'S THE SAME HEIGHT ACROSS THERE IN THE NEW DRAWING.
AND WE'RE GOING TO DROP THE PORCH EDITION AND KEEP THE ROOF FLAT ON THE PORCH EDITION.
THERE CURRENTLY IS A CONTEMPORARY DECK OUTSIDE OF THAT, OUTSIDE OF THOSE FRENCH DOORS.
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE IN THE PHOTO, BUT.
SO WE WERE GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH THE WINDOW.
THIS IS A GUEST BEDROOM TO THE RIGHT THERE.
SO SINCE WE WERE REPLACING THE ONE WINDOW WE ELECTED TO ADD A WINDOW, A FOUR PANEL DOOR WITH A TRANSOM, AND THEN ANOTHER WINDOW IN PLACE OF THE FRENCH DOORS AND THE THREE THREE WINDOWS.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER ON.
THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PORCH.
LIKE IT? YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN THIS WHEN I SAW THIS CASE COME BEFORE US, I WAS VERY EXCITED.
THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN LAYING IN WAIT FOR SO LONG THAT THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.
HE IS CURRENTLY PRACTICING IN IN WACO.
AND THEY COME HERE OCCASIONALLY.
HE WENT TO MED SCHOOL HERE AND HE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK.
THAT'S THE BACK PORCH WITH THE BIG PLATE GLASS WINDOWS.
IT'S UNBEARABLE IN WITH THOSE HUGE PLATES OF GLASS.
AND THE SHUTTER PANELS ARE USED THROUGHOUT GALVESTON ON MANY HISTORIC HOUSES.
AND SO WE JUST SAID WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE PLATE GLASS AND PUT THAT IN.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WATSON? NO.
I DO LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT ARE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH US THAT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS YOU ARE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN WHATEVER IS ON THE HOUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ORIGINAL.
YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN WHATEVER IT IS YOU INHERIT WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE HOUSE.
WHEN YOU MAKE CHANGES, WE ASK THAT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL UNLESS IT'S AN ADDITION.
SO THAT IS WHY THIS UPPER PORCH IS ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN AND STAY IS BECAUSE IT IS PART OF WHAT THEY INHERITED AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN THAT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
NANCY, I TEXTED YOU THOSE THE PICTURES OF THE DRAWINGS.
DID YOU GET THEM? OKAY. ARE WE GOOD? WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. NANCY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO. OKAY.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS CASE? NO. OKAY.
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SO YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL DRAWING, YOU HAVE THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGES ON THE FRONT FACE TO CONSIDER. SO STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.SO YOU AN APPROPRIATE MOTION BY THE COMMISSION WOULD BE FOR APPROVAL INSTEAD OF AS SHOWN IN ATTACHMENT A OF THE STAFF REPORT AS PRESENTED AT THE MEETING.
OKAY. AND THEN YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A OR B.
OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS CASE? THANK YOU, SARAH.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. CASE 23LC-024 AS IT IS PRESENTED WITHOUT THE OMITTANCE OF THE FRONT PORCH. OKAY.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY, I'VE GOT A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? WE'RE ALL CLEAR WHAT WE ARE APPROVING IS THIS NEW ELEVATION WHICH MR. WATSON PRESENTED, WHICH CHANGES THE ROOF, OMITS THE ROOF AND CHANGES THE DOOR WINDOW CONFIGURATION.
THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION IS FOR.
OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? NO. ALL IN FAVOR? SO THIS IS APPROVED.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING ON TO LET ME GET ALL MY PAPERS OUT OF THE WAY HERE.
LANDMARK DESIGNATION 23 LC-021, 2214 31ST STREET.
THIS IS FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
SO WE ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
SO AS STATED 2214 31ST, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A DESIGNATION AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK.
THERE WERE 32 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT AND NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.
WE'RE CALLING THIS THE MCCLELLAN BUNGALOW.
EACH BUNGALOW HAD METAL ROOFING CONSISTED OF FIVE ROOMS AND ONE CLOSET.
HE LIVED IN THE NORTHERNMOST HOUSE, WHICH IS NOW GONE AT 2202 31ST BRIEFLY WITH HIS WIFE, FLORENCE SEARS, IN 1922 HIS FELLOW CANADIAN, WILLIAM LEE AND WIFE ELIZABETH, PURCHASED THE HOUSE FROM THE MCCLELLAN'S.
IN 1926, THE HOUSE WAS OWNED BY CHARLES E COMBS AND WIFE NAOMI.
THEY OWNED THE HOUSE UNTIL 1947.
BY 1948, THE HOUSE IS OWNED BY ALI EVANGELISTA.
MCCLELLAN WAS BORN IN LONDON, ONTARIO, CANADA.
HE OWNED MCCLELLAN ELECTRIC COMPANY, WHICH WAS LOCATED AT 2105 POST OFFICE.
THE 1921 CITY DIRECTORY LISTS WILLIAM LEE AS A TRAVELING SALESMAN.
THE MCCLELLAN BUNGALOW RETAINS MUCH OF ITS HISTORIC CHARACTER AS A CRAFTSMAN STYLE BUNGALOW, AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WAS POPULAR FROM THE END OF THE VICTORIAN ERA, WELL INTO THE 1930, WHICH WERE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH HERE IN GALVESTON.
THE STYLE IS CHARACTERIZED BY FEATURES VISIBLE ON THE HOME TODAY BECAUSE OF ITS ASSOCIATION WITH GALVESTON BUSINESS OWNERS AND SOME OF WHOM WERE IMMIGRANTS AND ITS ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY.
IT RETAINS HIS HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE HERE IN GALVESTON, PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES FOR NEW LANDMARKS. PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HEAR THIS REQUEST AS WELL AT THE JUNE 6TH, 2023, MEETING.
CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION ON THE REQUEST OF THE JUNE 22ND, 2023 MEETING.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH STANDARD CONDITION ONE IN THE STAFF REPORT AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS.
SO HERE WE HAVE THE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SEEN FROM 31ST STREET.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF MRS. ALEXANDER OF GO HOMES IS PRESENT.
NO. IS THERE ANYBODY FOR THIS CASE THAT'S PRESENT OR 31ST STREET.
OKAY, BUT YOU'RE NOT THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
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IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? PLEASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN, PLEASE.OKAY. MY NAME IS MISTY CASTANEDA.
I LIVE AT 2206 31ST STREET, WHICH IS TWO HOUSES DOWN.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT MY PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTIES IN OUR AREA? IT DOESN'T.
IT JUST SIMPLY MEANS THAT IT BE AS IF IT IS.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES IT AS A LOCAL LANDMARK, THEN IT BECOMES HISTORICALLY PROTECTED.
SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY FUTURE OWNERS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE LANDMARK COMMISSION TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR ALTERATIONS TO THE HOUSE. OKAY. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL DO THAT TO JUST SIMPLY PROTECT THE PROPERTY THEY'VE WORKED ON, BUT IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON YOUR PROPERTY UNLESS YOU'RE INCREASES TAXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. NO, I'M NOT AWARE THAT ANY LANDMARK PROPERTY DEPRECIATED IN VALUE.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
NO, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A FAIR QUESTION.
BUT YES, THIS IS JUST AN HISTORIC PROTECTIVE MEASURE ON THE PROPERTY.
OKAY. THAT IS ALL. SO THAT'S IT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN.
ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS PROPERTY? NO. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ASK FOR A MOTION TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR A LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION. DO I HAVE A MOTION? OKAY, SARAH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 23LC-021.
OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES, WE RECOMMEND COUNCIL TO APPROVE IT AS A LOCAL LANDMARK.
ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE, BUILDING CODE VIOLATIONS.
COMMISSIONERS AT THE AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN THE COMMISSIONERS EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE PROCESS, I'VE DONE JUST A REAL SIMPLE GRAPHIC TO SHOW WHAT THE COMPLIANCE PROCESS IS LIKE.
SO IF A VIOLATION OCCURS, WE TYPICALLY GET NOTIFIED FROM VIGILANT NEIGHBORS THAT SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED ON A LANDMARK OR IN A DISTRICT THAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED.
SO STAFF WILL VERIFY THAT THERE HAS BEEN A VIOLATION.
THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOTIFIED.
THAT TYPICALLY TAKES PLACE THROUGH WHAT WE CALL A STOP WORK ORDER OR A RED TAG.
THAT CAN ALSO HAPPEN THROUGH THE CITY MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE HAPPEN IS COMPLIANCE.
SO AFTER THE VIOLATION HAS BEEN NOTED AND THE PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFIED, THEN WE WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO CORRECT THE ISSUE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN PUT BACK.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S WHAT WE GET IS COMPLIANCE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN.
SO AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH IS IT'S USUALLY TEN DAYS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE CITY AND THEN WE'LL GIVE THEM A PERIOD OF TIME TO CORRECT THE VIOLATION.
SO THAT TIME FRAME CAN VARY AS TO THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF VIOLATIONS.
ULTIMATELY, IF THERE'S NOT COMPLIANCE, THEN THE WILL FILE CHARGES AND WE END UP IN MUNICIPAL COURT.
ASK A QUESTION, IS THERE A METHOD WHERE WE YOU KNOW, WE SEE CASES HERE, AS YOU SAID, WHERE THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED AND THEY COME IN AND WANT WANT US TO APPROVE CHANGES MAYBE THAT WE THOUGHT WERE NOT APPROPRIATE AND WE DENY IT OR PROPOSE ALTERNATE CHANGES.
DOES THE CITY HAVE A METHOD TO FOLLOW UP ON THOSE? TYPICALLY, IF SOMETHING'S BEEN DENIED AND IT'S ALREADY OCCURRED, THERE'S A TIME FRAME GIVEN BY THE COMMISSION FOR CORRECTING IT.
AND SO WE TRACK THAT AND WE YOU'LL SEE SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL COME BACK AND ASK FOR SOME MORE TIME.
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OKAY, GREAT. OKAY, A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.I'M GLAD THIS CAME UP BECAUSE I'VE WONDERED ABOUT SOME OF THIS MYSELF.
AND IF MUNICIPAL COURT UPHOLDS THE CITATION.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A FINE OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ORDERING CORRECTIONS TO THESE DEFICIENCIES? BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN ALL THINK OF CASES WHERE THESE THINGS SEEM TO HAVE GONE INTO LIMBO AND THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLAINED ABOUT, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CITED STILL EXIST OUT THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT A FAILURE ON THE PART OF A MUNICIPAL COURT? DO WE FAIL TO FOLLOW UP FOLLOWING THAT? WHAT HAPPENS WITH MUNICIPAL COURT ORDER IS SOMETHING TO BE CORRECTED OR REMOVED OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.
WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? SO. LANDMARK COMMISSION IS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
THAT PERSON CAN BE FINED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
BUT THIS IS A UNIQUE COMMISSION BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES ARE UNIQUE.
IS THAT SOMETHING I NEED TO PHASER ON OVERLOAD? DID WE RUN OUT OF TAPE? I DON'T KNOW. ARE WE RUNNING OVER TIME? WE WILL NOT GO AND SHORE UP ANY PROPERTY UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
WE WILL NOT, FOR EXAMPLE, SHORE UP A PORCH.
THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE WOULD FINE, FINE, FINE.
I CAN'T RECALL ANY THAT'S GONE TO THAT LEVEL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY.
BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME SORT OF HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW, CATHERINE CAN YOU RECALL ANYTHING THAT'S GONE PAST THE MUNICIPAL COURT LEVEL? I MANY YEARS AGO IT DID FOR A PROPOSED DEMOLITION, BUT I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT COURT IT WENT TO.
EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE'LL SEE A PROPERTY THAT IS OF A LANDMARK TYPE OF QUALITY.
AND AGAIN, THAT HOPEFULLY INVOLVES THE COMMISSION OR AT LEAST THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER IN TERMS OF THE SEVERITY OF THE DAMAGE AND A PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T REPAIR.
AND IF YOU KNOW IT'S DEEMED THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED, THEN THAT'S ANOTHER WE HAD A SITUATION WITH THE WHAT'S THE THE YOUNG COUPLE. OH THEY HAVE A SHOW RENOVATING.
AND INSTEAD OF DEMOLITION IN THAT CASE, THEY GOT A HIT SHOW OUT OF IT, APPARENTLY.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.
THERE'S A HOUSE IN THE EAST END NOT FAR FROM US THAT WAS RED TAGGED AND FINE AND WENT TO COURT.
NOTHING'S EVER HAPPENED ON THAT STUFF THAT HE WAS CHARGED WITH.
NOW, IF THE HOUSE IS FOR SALE AND IT'S SOLD, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE NEW OWNERS? IS THAT JUST FORGOTTEN? NO, WE'VE HAD THAT QUESTION NOT ONLY ON THIS COMMISSION BUT ON PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO YOU HAVE THE REALTOR WHO IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE POTENTIAL NEW OWNERS AWARE OF ANY ISSUES WITH THEIR PROPERTY. AGAIN, WHAT'S RECORDED OR REPORTED TO THE REALTOR AND OR TO THE NEW OWNER? THAT SEEMS TO BE THE REAL ISSUE.
THE OWNER WOULD HAVE A RECOURSE AGAINST THE THE NEW OWNER WOULD HAVE A RECOURSE AGAINST THE SELLER.
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BUT THAT'S A PRIVATE AFFAIR THAT THE CITY DOESN'T GET THEMSELVES INVOLVED WITH.I KNOW THAT WE MADE A PUSH TO HAVE NOTIFICATION ON THESE REAL ESTATE DOCUMENTS FOR THE HISTORIC PROPERTY OR MAY BE SUBJECT TO HISTORICAL RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN IN EFFECT.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S REALLY ONLY FOR MAYBE GALVESTON AND OR TEXAS.
SO SOMEBODY FROM OUT OF STATE THAT PURCHASES SIGHT UNSEEN.
WE OFTEN HEAR NOT OFTEN WE HEAR FOLKS COMING WASN'T EVEN MADE AWARE OF IT.
BUT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I LIVED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO THERE IS YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, THERE ISN'T TOO TERRIBLY MUCH THAT THE CITY ITSELF CAN DO.
IT'S MORE REALLY A NEW OWNER, NEW BUYER, MAKING THEMSELVES AWARE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE ACQUIRING AND WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ON A TITLE REPORT.
THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO GET A TITLE REPORT.
MOST OF THESE VIOLATIONS ARE NOT RECORDED AT THE GALVESTON COUNTY LAND RECORDS DEPARTMENT.
I THINK SOME MAY, IF THERE HAS BEEN A LIEN OF SOME SORT FILED AGAINST THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE DISCLOSABLE IN THE LIEN RECORDS OR TITLE REPORT SHOULD BRING THAT UP.
SO IF IF THEY WERE FINED AT MUNICIPAL COURT, FAILED TO PAY THE FINES, WILL THE CITY FILE A LEAN? THEREFORE, IT WOULD SHOW UP IN A TITLE REPORT.
SO IF IT'S IF THERE'S A FAILURE TO PAY A FINE, THAT'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER FINE.
BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO GET THAT FINE FROM THAT PERSON.
SO YOU CAN BE CHARGED WITH CONTEMPT OF COURT.
YOU CAN BE I THINK IT'S CONTEMPT OF COURT.
THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WON'T NECESSARILY SHOW UP ON, AGAIN, A TITLE REPORT.
SO SO WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE IN TERMS OF.
WHAT THE CITY CAN DO TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY RECORDS REAL RECORDS DEPARTMENT, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT A VIOLATION TODAY CAN BE CORRECTED TOMORROW.
IT'S JUST A PROCESS THAT YOU WOULD DO EVERY MONTH.
SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN CHARGE AND DO IT, BUT I COULDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.
AND SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A TEN DAY CORRECTION NOTICE, WHAT ARE YOU FILING WITH THE REAL PROPERTY RECORDS THAT THERE'S A VIOLATION OR THAT AFTER 30 DAYS THERE WASN'T IT WASN'T CORRECTED. BUT WHAT IF THEY CORRECTED ON DAY 31 OR THEY SET IT FOR TRIAL IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD? I MEAN, WHAT WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD BE REPORTED AND WHEN FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE? WHAT IF THEY PAY THE FINE AND IT'S STILL NOT CORRECTED? AGAIN, WHAT SO IT'S A FAILURE TO PAY A FINE THAT'S BEING REPORTED OR IS IT THE VIOLATION THAT'S BEEN..
[INAUDIBLE] THE PROBLEM? THAT WOULD BE A REPEAT OFFENDER.
AND YOU KEEP FINING THEM AND FINING THEM AGAIN.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD CASES WHERE WE'VE HAD TO FINE PEOPLE REPEATEDLY BEFORE THEY GOT THE MESSAGE.
BUT THE MAXIMUM FINE IS, WHAT, $500? IT CAN BE UP TO 2500 A DAY.
IT'S LET'S BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET THERE.
NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO GET TO A $2,000 A DAY SITUATION.
IT JUST IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
SORT OF SEARCHES FOR VIOLATIONS.
I'M SORRY, IS THERE A SEARCH FOR THESE VIOLATIONS OR IS THERE A WAY TO SEARCH FOR THESE VIOLATIONS? AS CATHERINE ALREADY STATED, THEY TRACK THESE VIOLATIONS.
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IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD.I MEAN, THERE'S HOUSING ABATEMENT CASES THAT CAN BE EASILY TRACKED.
I GUESS YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CASES CROSSED CHECKED WITH THE TYPE OF VIOLATION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. AND THEN I GUESS CROSS CHECKED AGAIN WITH WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN HISTORIC PROPERTY.
I WOULD THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
WE CAN ALSO LOOK IN SLA, WHICH IS OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT DATABASE.
YES. WOULD IT BE USEFUL FOR THAT TO BE DISSEMINATED ON A PERIODIC BASIS? AND WE USED TO DO THAT, LIKE DONNA WAS JUST ALLUDING TO, AND IT KIND OF FELL OUT OF PRACTICE, I THINK PROBABLY DURING COVID WHEN WE WEREN'T ALL TOGETHER.
SO WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY START DOING THAT AGAIN.
YEAH, WE USED TO DO IT QUARTERLY.
WE HAVE LAURA IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH US ABOUT THAT AND SHE COME FORWARD.
LAURA. THE QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE WE GET THESE QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME, TOO.
AND THAT COMMENT. STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IT.
LAURA BOURGEOIS WITH GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION.
WE GET THESE CALLS ALL THE TIME THAT, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW I GOT A VIOLATION.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW I WASN'T A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS MY HOUSE WAS HISTORIC.
IS THERE AN EASY WAY DURING THE BUYING OF THESE PROPERTIES FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEARCH JUST BY THE ADDRESS FOR ALL THESE CASES? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST MENTIONED THREE DIFFERENT DATABASES AND ONE OF THEM YOU WOULD NEED TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SEARCHING FOR.
AND IF I'M A BUYER, I'M A NOBODY.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COURTS.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CASES.
AND I'M JUST DOING MY DUE DILIGENCE AS A NEW BUYER.
HOW DO I FIND OUT IF THE HOUSE I'M UNDER CONTRACT FOR HAVE ANY OF THESE VIOLATIONS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS AND NOT EASILY JUST CALL CATHERINE BECAUSE CATHERINE HAS ACCESS TO A SELLER, BUT SHE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE ACCESS TO MUNICIPAL COURT OR ABATEMENT OR I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT TO ASK STAFF TO DO.
SO WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP ANYBODY FIND OUT IF THERE ARE VIOLATIONS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
CAN I JUST. AND I'LL ALSO SAY, WOW, SWALLOW SOME AIR HERE.
THE MUNICIPAL COURT ALSO KEEPS TRACK OF PROPERTY ADDRESSES.
SO YOU CAN ALWAYS CONTACT THE MUNICIPAL COURT AND JUST SAY, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS CASE OR LOOK ONLINE AT THEIR DOCKET AGENDA TO SEE WHAT CASES MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE COME UP PEOPLE CALL ABOUT IT.
IT'S VERY HARD IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM TO SEARCH BY ADDRESS.
AND SO IT'S NOT AS EASY AS JUST DOING A SEARCH BECAUSE.
WE ALSO DO THAT ALL THE TIME, WHERE WE JUST HAVE LIKE CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, LIKE I GET EMAILS FROM LANDMARK COMMISSION WHENEVER YOU GUYS POST ANYTHING OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF A CASE COMES UP, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALERTS ON CERTAIN THINGS OR WE JUST SEARCH FOR WE HAVE HOLD COVENANTS ON HOUSES SO WE SEARCH ONCE A MONTH.
WHAT HAS SOLD JUST SO THAT WE KNOW IF A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP HAPPENED.
AND IT'S IT'S NOT AS EASY TO FIND OR AS INTUITIVE.
THE EASIEST METHOD IS PROBABLY TO CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY BECAUSE, WELL, SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO CONTACT CATHERINE OR WHO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OR THE OR EVEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY THAT THEY SHOULD.
THAT'S RIGHT. BUT THEY EVEN SHOULD.
JUST IN THE PARKS AND THE PARKS BOARD WEBSITE, THERE IS A TOOL WHERE YOU CAN SEARCH AND FIND OUT IF A PROPERTY IS REGISTERED AS A, YOU KNOW, LEGAL AIRBNB.
BUT THAT'S A DATABASE THEY MAINTAIN THERE.
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UP, THEN THAT PROPERTY DOESN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF.WELL, YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR GIS MAP.
IT SHOWS ALL THE INDIVIDUALLY LANDMARKED PROPERTIES AND ALL YOUR DISTRICTS.
I THINK YOU HAVE THAT AS WELL.
SO IT SHOULD BE INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE.
THE CITY IS NOT THE CITY SEARCH IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
AND IT GIVES YOU SOME ADVICE ON IF YOU'RE BUYING A HOUSE LIKE HOW TO FIND OUT IF IT'S HISTORIC AND HOW TO DO UPDATES, CO COMPLIANCE AND DEED RESTRICTIONS BEFORE YOU BUY.
COULD I I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE TOMORROW I'M SPEAKING IN FRONT OF REALTORS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS.
I THINK DAVID WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.
DID YOU? WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THE QUESTION DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HOW DOES A PROPERTY OWNER GO ABOUT FINDING IT? HOW DOES SOMEONE FIND OUT IF A CASE IS OPEN ON SOMETHING? IT'S WHAT JULIE SAID THAT YOU DRIVE BY SOME OF THESE AND YOU KNOW THIS HAS BEEN BEFORE THIS BODY.
YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN VIOLATIONS.
YOU KNOW THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN REJECTED OR WE'VE DEMANDED CHANGES AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED.
I CAN WE OBVIOUSLY SHOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC CASES IN HERE, BUT WE CAN ALL START NAMING SPECIFIC PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THAT THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN CORRECTED.
SO COULD I SUGGEST I KNOW THAT THIS DOESN'T ADDRESS EXISTING VIOLATIONS OR UNCORRECTED VIOLATIONS, BUT IF THE REALTORS WOULD HAVE A STACK OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND HAND THEM OUT AT THE TIME OF CLOSING, IF WE COULD PROVIDE THEM TO THE TITLE COMPANY, GIVE THEM A STACK AND SAY PLEASE, IF, IF I MEAN IT'S ALL AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AND IT'S ON.
YEAH. BUT IF YOU DON'T TO TO ACCESS AND THAT'S NOT IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT IF IF YOU'RE MOVING HERE FROM SAN ANTONIO AND YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT GALVESTON YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT SILK STOCKING, WHAT'S EAST END, WHAT'S SANJAK IF THEY GIVE IT TO YOU AT CLOSING, YOU CAN'T SAY YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
BUT EVEN THEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT.
OH, I KNEW IT WAS AN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE THESE RULES THAT APPLIED.
I THINK STOCKING DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TITLE.
NO, BUT DO YOU NOT HAVE THE CIRCLE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR STREET SIGN? IT SAYS NOT A THING, HUH? NOPE, NOPE NOT ON..
SILK STOCKING DOESN'T HAVE THE BROWN STREET SIGNS? ALL WE HAVE IS THE BIG SIGNS IN ON THE PARKWAY.
SO JUST GETTING BACK A LITTLE BIT.
JUST A LITTLE BIT. I THINK SOME OF THE REAL ESTATE FORUMS HAVE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FORM THAT ADDRESSES SOME SPECIALTY TO THE PROPERTY. AND I THINK ONE OF THOSE IS WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT WAS.. A ONE PAGE LITTLE ONE.
SO IT'S YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY EITHER DIDN'T READ THOSE DOCUMENTS FULLY OR FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO, IT'S KIND OF LIKE GETTING A PROPERTY AND NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE AN HOA.
AND WE DON'T ENFORCE DEED RESTRICTIONS OF AN HOA.
SO THERE YOU GO. AND I THINK ALL THE THE FOUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS, THEY HAVE ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, MAYBE NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT ARE INVOLVE A LOT OF THE HOMEOWNERS LIKE THE EAST END.
IF YOU'RE IN THE EAST END, YOU'RE IN AN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THAT THERE ARE RULES THAT APPLY TO HISTORIC PROPERTIES BEFORE, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO PUT UP A FENCE, YOU NEED TO PULL A PERMIT.
YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY THAT'S A MEMBER OF EAST END HISTORICAL DISTRICT.
IT'S SOMETHING. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING.
WE HAVE 225 MEMBERS IN THE EAST END.
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SO THAT'S AT LEAST SOMETHING.WE'VE GOT 80 MEMBERS OUT OF 200 HOUSES AND THE MEMBERS ARE THE ONES WHO CARE.
THEY'RE NOT THE PROBLEM. IT'S THE ONES WHO WON'T JOIN.
WELL, WE DO. WE SEND A WELCOME LETTER TO ALL NEW PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE GET A REPORT FROM THE GALVESTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT ONCE A MONTH.
AND SO WE DO WE SEND THAT OUT AND THEN WE NOTE THAT IN A CELLAR.
SO THERE'S DOCUMENTATION THAT IT'S BEEN SENT.
WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY IN 2011, WE WENT TO JEFF.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THE COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE.
YOU NEED TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
THE SAD THING IS A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE IN HISTORIC DISTRICT, KNOW THAT THE RULES APPLY AND THEY TRY TO GET AWAY WITH IT ANY WAY THEY DO IT ANYWAY, LIKE THE HOUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 930 AT NIGHT.
RIGHT? RIGHT. HE JUST KEPT DOING MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD FOR DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT MEETING? THERE'S ONE MORE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
WE'LL BE CLOSED ON THE 19TH FOR JUNETEENTH.
AND THEN SO WE'RE BUMPING THE MEETING TO THE 20TH AT 9 A.M.
SO THAT'LL BE A WEIRD MORNING TUESDAY MEETING.
YOU SURE CAN. OKAY, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.