>> THIS MORNING I'M GOING TO START THIS MEETING UP BEFORE WE EVEN CALL THE ROLL CALL.
[1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER]
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THIS IS A HAPPY, SAD TIME.I KNOW WE HAVE COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER.
THIS WILL BE HIS LAST WORKSHOP FOR US THIS WEEK.
>> I'M GOING WITH HIM. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M NOT LEAVING REALLY, IT'S NOT LIKE I'M GOING OFF TO COLLEGE OR ANYTHING, [LAUGHTER] BUT I'LL STILL BE HERE WITH YOU.
>> COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER HAS BEEN A GREAT COUNCILMAN FOR DISTRICT 2.
I HATE TO SEE HIM GO AND I HAVE A FEELING WE WON'T SEE THE LAST OF HIM HERE SO THERE WE GO.
GOOD. LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
[3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (40 Min)]
IF WE CAN READ 3A, PLEASE, MA'AM.>> POINT 3A, CLARIFICATION IF IT'S IN A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF, AND TO SET ON REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.
>> VERY GOOD. WILLIAM IN HONOR OF YOU, WE'RE GOING TO START OUT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MORE PROCEDURAL, JUST HAVE A QUESTION OVER AD WITH THE RIGHT AWAY, WHAT IS [INAUDIBLE].
HOW WILL THAT WORK? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THAT. HOW WILL THAT WORK? WILL WE STILL FOLLOW THE FORMAT, THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC SPEAKING OR HOW DOES THAT WORK SINCE IT IS IN A PUBLIC HEARINGS SPOT.
OBVIOUSLY, IT WILL BE AN ITEM THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.
>> THE COUNCIL ALLOWS FOR A PERMIT TAKING THE THREE MINUTES ON AGENDA AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS. ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, HE BEGUN TO COMMENT SPECIFICALLY ON THAT ITEM ITSELF.
>> [OVERLAPPING] EVENTUALLY IT WILL BE THREE MINUTES MINIMUM.
COUNCIL CAN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN A PUBLIC HEARING CORRECT OR?
>> BUT IN THE HEARING WE CAN TALK TO THE [OVERLAPPING] APPLICANT AND SO FORTH.
>> THAT ITEM IS DOWN FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> AD. WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANTS, [OVERLAPPING].
>> AND THAT TYPE OF DISCUSSION WE SURELY CAN.
>> THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAD RIGHT NOW.
>> BEFORE WE LEAVE AD, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.
IT BOTHERED ME WE'VE HAD ARTICLES, LETTERS IN THE PAPER.
WE HAVE HAD COMMENTS ON THE EMAILS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THE VOTE WILL GO THIS AFTERNOON, BUT IT BOTHERS ME THAT ALL THESE COMMENTS AND LETTERS AND PAPER, IT SEEMS TO ME HAVE INCORRECT INFORMATION IN THOSE LETTERS AND IN THE EMAILS, THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME A LOT.
BRIAN, I WANT TO CONFIRM ON THAT, CLARIFY WITH YOU.
THIS APPROACH THAT IS BEING BROUGHT TO COUNCIL THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF, IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND ALL THE OTHERS.
>> THE WAY THE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN IS THAT ANY CONCERNS AT PUBLIC PARKS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE DESIGN AFTER THE APPROVAL.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REJECT OR APPROVE ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE THERE THAT WOULD RESTRICT FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS OR THAT WOULD CAUSE ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHY DONNER RESERVED THAT, I BELIEVE IN ALL OF THE TEXT OF THE LTV.
>> THAT HAS BEEN SAYING THAT APPLIES TO ROB WINNICKI AND ALL THE STAFF.
>> PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL. YES, SIR.
THEY HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET.
BECAUSE I GUESS THE OWNER DOESN'T WANT TO SPEND A FORTUNE DESIGNING ALL THIS STUFF IF IT'S NOT GOING TO GET APPROVED.
WHAT WE SAID IS THAT BASICALLY, YOU WOULD BE APPROVING AN LTE SUBJECT TO THEM MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT EVERYBODY HAS.
>> ISN'T THAT UNUSUAL? USUALLY, THE PLANS ARE DESIGNED SO WE CAN SEE IT.
I [OVERLAPPING] HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>> NO, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY UNUSUAL.
WE HAD REQUESTS FOR LTE USE ALL THE TIME BOTH TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT WITHOUT HAVING HARD PLANS.
>> I'M SORRY, SHARON. GO RIGHT AHEAD.
>> CORRECT. IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, IT SAYS THREE YEARS AFTER THREE YEARS, DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY?
>> IT'S AN INITIAL PERIOD OF 10 YEARS AND IN THE SUCCESSIVE PERIODS OF 10 YEARS THEREAFTER,
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THERE IS A FORCE MAJEURE, COMPONENT IN IT IF SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPENS THAT BOTH PARTIES CAN [OVERLAPPING] COME OUT OF THE PROJECT.>> BASICALLY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT WORKING, THEN WE CAN SAY IT'S NOT WORKING SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO EITHER WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD IN PLACE.
BASICALLY, THERE'S A FAIL-SAFE.
THERE'S A FAIL-SAFE THAT DEFINE IF IT'S REALLY NOT WORKING OVER TIME, THEN BOTH PARTIES CAN AGREE YES, IT'S NOT WORKING.
OR IN FACT, IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT, THE CITY CAN THEN SAY, IT'S NOT WORKING AND WE WANT TO EITHER OPEN UP THE STREET OR WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE WILL DETERMINE WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE AREA.
BUT THIS IS BY NO MEANS GIVING THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE APPLICANT, THE CITY REMAINS THE OWNER OF THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY.
I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WILL BE PRESENT THIS [OVERLAPPING] AFTERNOON IF NOT THIS MORNING FOR QUESTIONS.
I DO BELIEVE THEY'VE ALSO SAID SOME MINOR DRAWINGS.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF COUNCIL WAS TRIBUTE TO THE EMAIL THAT I GOT EARLIER THIS MORNING, BUT WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS WELL.
>> I'M NOT FINISHED. [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THIS IS SET OF PRESIDENT AS FAR AS THE FUTURE.
IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO REQUEST AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, WE HAD DRUG TRAFFICKING BEHIND OUR CHURCH AND EVERYTHING, OUR PASTOR OFFERED TO PURCHASE OR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR WHATEVER OF THE ALLEY, AND THAT WAS A NO.
WE ALSO HAVE A BUSINESS OWNER WHO IS ON A MARKET STREET WHERE THERE IS AN ALLEY THAT SITS TO THE WEST OF HER BUSINESS AND WE'VE DISCUSSED HER USING THAT.
I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING AS APPROVING A RIGHT-OF-WAY AGREEMENT.
>> WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH HER ABOUT THAT BIGGER POSSIBILITY.
>> I BELIEVE SO. BECAUSE WE HAVE NO REASON TO KEEP THAT OPEN.
I THINK THERE WAS A BUSINESS AT THE END THAT YOU USE THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
>> THAT WAS THEIR ONLY ACCESS BUT IT BURNED DOWN NOW.
>> RIGHT AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TO THE NORTH ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IT FEELS LIKE YOU CAN'T RESTRICT ACCESS, YOU HAVE TO OWN BOTH SIDES OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
>> IN THAT CASE, THAT WOULD BE BOTH SIDES, CORRECT?
>> SHE DOESN'T OWN THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY, RIGHT?
>> YOU'RE SAYING TO US SHE HAS TO OWN BOTH SIDES.
>> THE LAND THAT'S TO THE WEST AND SHE HAS TO OWN THE LAND THAT IS TO THE EAST.
>> SHE OWNS THE LAND TO THE EAST. [OVERLAPPING]
>> RIGHT. BUT I'M SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT [OVERLAPPING]
OTHERWISE, YOU CAN ABANDON TO THE CENTER LINE, BUT IT JUST MAKES IT MUCH EASIER IF YOU OWN PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTING ACCESS TO ANOTHER PROPERTY.
>> BUT THIS IS CALLED THE VITAL LAND AGREEMENT.
>> WHO CAN DO THAT? CAN ANYBODY COME ALONG LATER AND GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A RIGHT-OF-WAY AGREEMENT?
>> I THINK IT'S A CASE-BY-CASE SITUATION BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION WAS ORIGINALLY AN ABANDONMENT REQUEST.
>> WE HAD A PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKED AT IT IN OCTOBER.
YOU GUYS SAW IT IN THE WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER, AND SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS, WAS THERE SOME OTHER WAY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HANDLE, SOME ALTERNATIVE WAY THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS? THAT'S WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THIS CONCEPT.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY RARE, BUT IT BEGAN IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE MAY NEED TO GET THAT RIGHT AWAY BACK IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S AN APPROPRIATE APPROACH IN MY OPINION, AT LEAST.
>> WELL, WE HAD MAYA, MARIE, AND DAVID WILL FOLLOW.
>> I LIKE THE COLLABORATION HERE, THE OUTSIDE-THE-BOX THINKING, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I'VE ALSO RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS REGARDING THIS.
WHERE WOULD ANOTHER BUSINESS STAND IF THEY WANTED TO DO THE SAME REQUESTS.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL CASE.
IT WILL BE AN INDIVIDUAL CASE.
BUT THE OPPORTUNITY IS STILL OPEN [OVERLAPPING] FOR THAT.
>> FOR ABANDONMENT OR RUNAWAY AGREEMENTS.
>> WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU BEFORE WE PROCEED ANYTHING OUT OF THE STANDARD NORM IN A WORKSHOP AND EMBED THAT WITH YOU FIRST.
>> IF THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD CITY DECIDE SAY IF THIS ISN'T WORKING OUT, WE ARE HAVING SOME ISSUES, WHO PAYS FOR IT TO BE RESTORED TO THE ORIGINAL CONDITION?
>> THAT'S ALSO BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT ABOUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RETURNING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO WHATEVER THE CITY.
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THERE'S AN OPTION THAT THEY WANT SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN AND THEY WANTED ME TO KEEP IT, BUT THE CITY HAS AN OPTION TO SAY WE NEVER WANT TO KEEP IT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO WHATEVER.BUT IF THERE'S ANY DAMAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT WILL BE THE APPLICANT.
NOW WE'LL SAY THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED ARE REALLY I THINK IT WAS SUPERFICIAL, BUT THERE IS NOT DEALING WITH AN INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERNEATH THE SERVICE.
I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE PLANTERS, IT'S A GREEN SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THE DIRECT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE APPLICANT WOULD PAY FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE WILL BE A REVIEW OF THE AREA BEFOREHAND SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET THE LAY OF THE LAND, MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S IN PLACE IS IN PLACE.
IF ANY CORRECTIONS ARE NEEDED, THEN IT'LL BE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE APP, I GUESS TO SAY THIS IS A CITY ISSUE OR IT WILL BE AN APPLICANT ISSUE.
THERE'LL BE THE INITIAL REVIEW.
THEN IF THERE'S ANY SUBSEQUENT CONCERNS OR ISSUES THEREAFTER, IT'S THE APPLICANTS RESPONSIBILITY OVERALL.
>> I PERSONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM IN PROVING THIS WITHOUT SEEING WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON.
I TOO HAVE RECEIVED SO MANY EMAILS NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.
FUNNY ENOUGH, SINCE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION STARTED, I USED THAT ROAD ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THEN [NOISE] I THOUGHT, WELL, WHY WAS I USING IT ON A REGULAR BASIS BEFORE? IT WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL THE CONSTRUCTION STUFF OUT THERE.
I KNOW I'VE HEARD COMMENTS WELL, IT'S ONLY TWO WAY ROAD THAT GOES INTO A ONE-WAY ONE, THAT IS INTRUDE THE SAME THING EXIST BEHIND THAT ROAD.
IT EXISTS BEHIND A NUMBER OF SEAWALL PROPERTIES.
BUT MAKE A WAY THE FARTHEST STILL THERE ARE SOME PLANS, IF THEY'RE THAT DEDICATED TO IT, WHY AREN'T POLICING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO?
>> WE DO HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SET OF CONCEPTUAL PLANS.
WOULD BE DISPLAYED IN NOVEMBER. WE CAN SPLIT THOSE TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT, WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, WITH A NUMBER OF THINGS.
WHAT'S DIFFERENT? DONNA CAN SAY IT'S SUPERFICIAL, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING AND NOT THAT I HAVE TO [NOISE] SEE SOMETHING TO VOTE ON IT, BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK IT'S SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THE CITY.
THAT, "OKAY, WE CAN GO IN AND WHO DOES IT BENEFIT?" IT DOESN'T REALLY BENEFIT OUR TOURISTS HERE.
I KNOW YOU SAY THERE'LL BE SOME GREEN SPACE THERE. I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HARD DESIGNED FOR IMPROVING IT.
>> DIDN'T WE JUST TELL SHRINERS NO ON EXACTLY THE SAME THING?
>> ONE-WAY BECOMES TWO WAY DOWN THE POST OFFICE.
WE JUST TOLD SHRINERS, TRY TO FIND TO FIND CENTER THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE POST OFFICE.
I WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE THEM A POST OFFICE BECAUSE I'M AN UNBELIEVER IN GIVING PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY.
BUT SHARON SAYS SHE CAN NAME A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.
I NEED A COUPLE OF REAL BIG EXAMPLES.
THE MUS BEHIND THE SPOT AND HIE IS GREAT ONE.
>> MR. BIRD SHOWS UP TOMORROW AND SAYS, "WELL, YOU DID IT THERE.
WHY DON'T WE DO TO MY HOTEL TOO?" I'D BE HARD PRESSED TO TELLING [OVERLAPPING]
>> SAME THING FLOATED IT WOULD IDEALLY TWO PROPERTIES ACROSS, IT WILL BE ACTUALLY SAFER [OVERLAPPING] FOR THE PEOPLE.
>> I WILL TELL YOU ANOTHER ONE THAT'S PROBABLY EVEN BETTER.
IS THAT CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF THE CURVY STREET THAT GOES BEHIND THE SAN LOUIS.
>> YEAH, THAT ONE. I NEVER REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE STREET, ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT.
>> PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS GOING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THAT.
I CAN SEE A HALF DOZEN EXAMPLES.
IT'S JUST BOOM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHERE WE'LL HAVE REQUESTS TO DO THIS IF WE START JUST GIVING UP RIGHTS AWAY.
I LIVE ON A NOT PARTICULARLY BUSY STREET CEILING.
I BOUGHT THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH GIVES ME BOTH SIDES OF IT AND GIVE ME THE SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT TO EXPAND MY YARD, ESPECIALLY IF I WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT.
>> LET'S STAY WITH THE CLARIFICATIONS OF THIS, I KNOW, YES.
>> LET'S SAY IF IT DID PASS, THEN WE HAVE THE TERMS THAT THE CITY DOESN'T LIKE THIS DEAL OR THE APPLICANT DOESN'T LIKE THIS DEAL.
WHAT QUALIFIES AS PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THIS DEAL? IS IT TOO MANY NOISE COMPLAINTS, IS IT TOO MANY ACCIDENTS LIKE WHAT WOULD BE THE TERMS FOR ENDING THIS ABRUPTLY? AS I UNDERSTAND IT, EVEN THOUGH THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE WILLING TO AGAIN,
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MAKE IT LOOK NICE, MORE GOOD PARK PLAZA TYPE OF AREA.IT IS GOING TO COST THE APPLICANTS SOME MONEY.
WE DIDN'T WANT JUST TO BE THAT THERE'S A NOISE COMPLAINT OR SOMETHING AS I DON'T WANT TO BELITTLE WHAT SOMEONE'S NOISE COMPLAINT IS.
>> THE CRUX OF CITIES SAYING THAT IT'S NOT WORKING IS REALLY UNDER ANY NORMAL TYPE OF SITUATION.
THE AMBULANCE COULDN'T IS GOING TO GET THROUGH, THE FIRE TRUCK COULDN'T GET THROUGH THE BOWER SYSTEM OR THE SYSTEM TO ALLOW THE TRUCKS TO TRAVEL, DIDN'T GET THROUGH.
THERE WAS SOME SORT OF ISSUE THAT WE THE CITY SAID WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF SITUATION CONTINUE.
ON THE APPLICANT SIDE AND I DIDN'T SEE THE APPLICANTS ACTUALLY HERE, BUT [INAUDIBLE] BUT ON THE APPLICANT SIDE, I GUESS WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS REALLY MEETING THE NEEDS OF WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT THEY ENVISIONED.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD SAY HE IS HERE.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING A BIT MORE THAN JUST A TYPICAL NOISE COMPLAINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> THE DOCUMENTS SAYS CAN BE TERMINATED FOR CAUSE.
THERE IS A EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAUSE COULD BE.
>> RIGHT HERE IT SAYS, [OVERLAPPING] AN EXAMPLE OF CAUSE SHALL BE BASED UPON CATASTROPHIC, A FIRE, FLOOD EVENT. THAT'S [OVERLAPPING].
>> WHAT IF THEY CERTAINLY BLAME ASSUMPTIONS OUT THERE.
>> BUT IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT IF THAT HAPPENS, ONE YEAR NOTICE WILL BE GIVEN.
>> AS FAR AS FILED AGAINST YOU.
>> YOU DON'T JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS HAPPEN AND YOU DON'T CHANGE IT BACK.
YOU WAIT A A YEAR, YOU PROBABLY GO TO SOME TYPE OF DISPUTE RESOLUTION TO SEE IF YOU CAN RESOLVE IT THAT WAY FIRST? CORRECT?
>> THERE IS A DISPUTE RESOLUTION CLAUSE IN HERE. [OVERLAPPING] SECTION IN HERE.
>> YEAH.>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU HERE. CAN I KEEP GOING.
>> I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER SEE THIS.
BECAUSE IT'S ON THE OWNER SIDE, IT'S WITH OR WITHOUT CAUSE.
THEY CAN TERMINATE AT ANYTIME.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ON OUR SIDE TOO.
THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH RIGHT NOW IS THAT SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS NEVER REALLY GOT ADDRESSED FROM WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE US WHEN IT WAS [NOISE] FOR ME TO APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I WOULD NEED TO SEE THOSE QUESTIONS GET ANSWERED BEFORE I WOULD AGREE TO THIS.
>> JOHN, WHAT WERE THOSE QUESTIONS?
>> SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT GOT BROUGHT UP DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION CASE WAS TRAFFIC IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, ISSUES WITH DELIVERY TRUCKS, ISSUES WITH THE ALLEY BEHIND THE PROPERTY, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS SITUATION IN THAT AREA, HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT, AND THEN THE TRAFFIC THAT CAN BE CREATED ON AVENUE 0.5 AS WELL.
SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS REALLY NEED TO BE ANSWERED FOR ME TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS ALONG WITH THE ACTUAL CONTRACT, THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT.
THE OTHER THING AND THAT IS THE FEE.
HOW DID THAT FEE COME ABOUT? THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
>> THAT WAS A MANAGERIAL DECISION OF THE FEE.
>> THANK YOU. ANYMORE THOUGHTS ON THIS? JUST A COMMENT ON THIS.
I DON'T SEE THE PRECEDENT-SETTING THING.
MANDOLIN OF A STREET AS OPPRESSIVE SETTING THING. MY GOODNESS.
WE MAKE DECISIONS ALL THE WHILE AND AS LONG AS IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE APPLICATION TO YOUR QUESTION, SHARON, YES.
ANYONE COULD APPLY FOR CERTAIN SIMILAR TYPE SITUATIONS.
IT'S ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS ON THAT.
THEY SURE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY ON THAT.
I'VE GOT A LOT MORE SAY ON THIS SUBJECT, BUT IT'S MORE NOT CLARIFICATION.
I'LL SAY THAT THIS AFTERNOON, WHAT WE VOTE ON THAT.
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WILLIAM, YOU WENT THROUGH ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, SIR?>> YEAH. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE PLANNING CASES UNDERSTANDING.
LET'S LOOK AT 8B, NO PARDON ME.
WHOSE PUD IS THIS? I'M CONFUSED.
>> THE SECOND LINE OF 8C, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?
>> 8C IS ACTUALLY ON THE THE [INAUDIBLE] WORKSHOP.
>> IT'S THE WORKSHOP [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, BUT WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM.
>> IT'S ON THE WORKSHOP AS AN AD.
DO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WE'RE JUST EXTENDING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] AND THE CONSTRUCTION HAS GONE A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD.
>> JUST EXTEND IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR RATHER THAN [OVERLAPPING]
>> JUST WANTED TO BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE MAYOR.
>> IF YOU WILL START WITH HIM ANYWAY.
>> LET'S SEE THIS BY TAKING JUST A MINUTE.
>> SO WE'RE AMENDING THE LDRS AND INCLUDING THIS PUBLIC UTILITY FACILITY, NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE.
>> THIS IS MAINLY FOR THE PUMP STATION THAT'S GOING IN ON ENGLISH BODY.
>> IS THAT REALLY THE ONLY PLACE WHERE WE WOULD SEE THIS OR YOU SEE THIS.
>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET VERY MUCH WITH THIS MUCH THING.
THERE'S A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES HAVE BEEN PLACED AND PLANNED OUT IN ADVANCE.
GOOD PROPERTY IN MIND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THIS IS ONE OF THESE WHERE WE'RE BASICALLY REPAIRING THE DRAINAGE SITUATION, IMPROVING THE SITUATION.
AND THIS LOT WAS THE ONLY THING AVAILABLE TO DO IT IN THE CONTEXT THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO GET A WHOLE LOT OF ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY THAT THIS WOULD CONTROL, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR IT SHOULD WE GET TO THAT ONE.
>> WITHIN THAT USE, THE LIMITED USE STANDARDS THERE'S NUMBER 5 IT SAYS NO NUISANCE CREATED.
IS THAT STANDARD IN SOME OF OUR LIMITED USES OR IS THAT SOMETHING NEW OR PRETTY STANDARD?
>> WE'RE PLANNING TO PUT A GINORMOUS PUMPED RIGHT THERE.
WHEN THAT THING TURNS ON, IT'S GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF NOISE.
>> ARE THEY USING A LOT OF SOUND ATTENUATION.
I DON'T KNOW WE MET WITH THEM THIS WEEK IS GOING TO BE AS QUIET AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BECAUSE MOST OF THE PUMPS ARE UNDERGROUND.
I JUST DON'T WANT US TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS CLAUSE SAYING THAT YOU SHALL NOT CREATE OR CAUSE ANY PERCEIVABLE NOISE.
>> THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF THINGS BASE ON THOSE THINGS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IN THIS ORDINANCE IS THE FENCING REQUIREMENT, WHICH ALSO BLOCKS FROM ILLINOIS IN THE LANDSCAPE DEPARTMENT SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
>> THEN THIS IS MORE OF, I GUESS A LEGAL QUESTION, BEING THAT THE CITY IS INSTALLING THIS, DO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE REGULATIONS? [OVERLAPPING]IT'S JUST A QUESTION.
>> COUNCIL THAT ADOPTED THESE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION AS OPPOSED TO THE I GUESS THE UNCONSCIOUS DECISIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAKE.
MADE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT WE WOULD ABIDE BY OUR OWN RULES AND GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, SO LET ME JUST ASK THEM.
>> I'M GOING TO LET THE CITY ATTORNEY.
>> YOU CHOSEN TO DO IT, THEREFORE, YOU MUST DO IT.
>> THE COUNCIL MAKES THESE CHANGES.
SO AT ANY POINT THE COUNCIL COULDN'T MAKE THE CHANGE, SHOULD MAKE US COMPLY WITH WHATEVER WE'RE DOING PRETTY MUCH. I'M SAYING THAT.
>> I REALLY HAVE TO LOOK INTO WHETHER YOU COULD CHANGE YOUR MIND OR THAT TYPE OF THING.
>> NOT SO MUCH CHANGING MY MIND.
BUT IT'S MORE OF A JUST LEARNING QUESTION THAN ANYTHING.
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I'M JUST EDUCATED MYSELF ON WHAT THE CITY DOES AND DOES NOT HAVE TO DO WHEN WE GO AND DO PROJECTS LIKE THIS.BUT WE HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO FOLLOW REGULATIONS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE CREATING A NEW REGULATION.
SO WE MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE REGULATIONS.
>> BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT AIDE, JOHN, WE HAVE MIKE AND THEN WE HAVE.
>> MINE'S OFF TOPIC. I WOULDN'T BRING IT UP.
WHAT KIND OF STUDIES THAT THE CITY DO TO SEE THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD BE USEFUL BECAUSE I'VE SEEN OTHER STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE BY A&M OR WITHIN CORE AS FAR AS THE RING LEVY AND SO FORTH GOES WHERE IT COULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
DID WE HAVE AN ENGINEERING STUDY DONE?
>> WE HAVE A COMPLETE MODEL DONE.
AND WHO'S GOING TO BE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE WHERE THAT MAKES THE DECISION ON TURNING THIS ON.
>> IT SWITCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WHEN WATER STARTS BACKING UP, IT'LL KICK ON AND WE'LL HAVE IT BAD.
OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN [INAUDIBLE] WHO'S MANUALLY OVERRIDE IT, BUT WE JUST HAD A BIG MEETING ON THIS.
>> WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM AND THIS IS THE SOLUTION.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO SOLVE A FLOODING PROBLEM, THEN WE DON'T SOLVE IT.
BUT THIS IS THE BEST PRACTICE PER BUCK FOR IT BY SEVEN BEST ENGINEERING FIRMS ARE ALLOWED.
>> I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY QUESTION THOUGH.
>> WE'VE HAD BEST ENGINEERING LIKE I WAS DRIVING DOWN 45TH STREET THE OTHER DAY AFTER A SMALL RAIN AND THERE'S STILL ALL KINDS OF PEDALING AND FLOODING.
>> THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT FINISHED.
THAT'S PART OF THIS PROJECT IS.
>> SO WE HAVE ONE ENGINEERING FIRM COME UP, WITH DID A STUDY.
DID WE HAVE ANY PEER REVIEWS, LIKE GET IT REVIEWED BY SOMEONE ON BECAUSE IT'S SUBSTANTIAL.
>> THIS IS REALLY KIND OF [INAUDIBLE].
THIS YEAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REALLY A PUMP STATION.
>> WE NEED TO STAY WITH THE SUBJECT [OVERLAPPING] BEING SAID.
>> I'M GOING TO BRING UP SOMETHING ON THIS.
WHAT CONCERNS ME AND MAYBE I'M MISINTERPRETING IS IF WE PASS THIS, IT OPENS UP, THEN THE PUBLIC UTILITY FACILITY NEIGHBORHOOD AT R0, R1 AND ALL THAT, WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF A PUBLIC UTILITY FACILITY? BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PUMP THING, BUT THIS IS OPENING UP POSSIBLY OTHER THINGS IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> THE DEFINITION MEANS PUBLIC FACILITY IS A STRUCTURE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY OR PRIVATE ENTITY FRANCHISE BY THE CITY.
>> CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, MA'AM? [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT IS A PUBLIC UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY OR PRIVATE ENTITY FRANCHISED BY THE CITY?
>> IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PUMP STATION HERE, CAN WE BE SPECIFIC ABOUT A PUMP STATION IN THIS PARTICULAR [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU COULD ADD IN AN ADDITIONAL LIMITED STANDARD THAT WOULD ONLY BE FOUR X INFRASTRUCTURE ITEM.
>> BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING, IF WE PASS THIS, WE'RE OPENING UP IN ALL THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES NOT ONLY A PUMP STATION, WHICH PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAPPEN IN A LOT OF THEM, BUT OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE ALLOWED IN THERE THAT WOULD FIT INTO THIS.
>> BUT GENERALLY ALL GROWNUPS TO SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD DO.
>> CORRECT. I'M NOT JUST SAYING. YOU'RE RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SO WOULD A MUD FIT INTO THAT.
>> IF THE CITY GRANTED THE MUD FRANCHISE, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
>> I KNOW, BUT IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THAT UNDER LIKE ON THE WEST AND WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SORE IF I HAVEN'T DEVELOPER THAT'S INTERESTED IN PUTTING IN YOUR PLAN AND WOULD IT FIT UNDER THIS?
>> DOES THAT INCLUDES A CELL TOWER.
>> THAT'S NOT A FRANCHISE CITY.
>> CELL TOWER HAS ITS OWN DEFINITION IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
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[OVERLAPPING]>> TNT AND I DON'T EVEN SEE COMING.
IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE A SUBSTATION FOR HMP.
MOST OF THOSE GOING AND RIGHT-OF-WAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I REALLY THINK THAT WE MAY BE ODD ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE ENDPOINT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE AND NOT OPEN IT UP FOR ANY OTHER USE.
>> INCREDIBLE WHAT OUR WATERCOLOR.
>> I THINK IF WE'RE DOING THIS, WE WANTED TO DEFINE IT CORRECTLY.
>> WELL, IT'S ALREADY DEFINED.
I JUST THINK ON THE ORDINATE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS HAVING A PUMP STATION SHOULD BE ALLOWED THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
WE OUGHT TO JUST SAY THAT IN SOME MANNER OR SO AND NOT OPEN UP ALL THE RESIDENTIAL FOR ALL THIS OTHERS.
>> WHY WOULD I DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO A PUMP STATION OR WASTEWATER, WHICH IS REALLY HAPPENING.
WE NEED TO HAVE THAT UNDER THE SAME DEFINITION WHEN YOU GREET HIM.
>> REALLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT OF THIS THING IS THAT IT PROVIDES FOR BUFFERING STANDARDS WHEN THOSE THINGS DO OCCUR, THEY'RE GOING TO OCCUR.
AT TIMES, DEVELOPERS WILL PUT IN PACKAGE PLANTS ON THE WEST END THOSE THINGS HAPPENS.
WE HAVE A STANDARD FOR HOW YOU ADDRESS IT WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN.
>> BUT RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN IN AN R0 AND R1 AND R3.
IT DOES NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
>> BECAUSE WE ARE SAYING WE'RE ADOPTING THE STANDARD.
SHORT OF US SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TIE OURSELVES TO THE SAME STANDARDS THAT WE'RE APPLYING TO OTHERS.
CURRENTLY, THOSE THINGS DO HAPPEN AND CAN HAPPEN.
BUT WITH THIS ACTION, WE'D BE SAYING WE'RE LIMITING OURSELVES TO HOW YOU BUFFER THIS WHEN IT DOES OCCUR.
>> NOW, LET ME MAKE SURE I MAY HAVE DONE.
ARE YOU SAYING WITH IF WE DO NOTHING WITH THIS, THAT YOU CAN PUT THOSE PUBLIC UTILITY FACILITIES IN THE R0, AND R1 AND R3 AS IT IS NOW?
>> UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALL PART OF ANY ZONE.
IT REALLY CAN BE PLACED ANYWHERE.
BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS ORDINANCE IS SCIENCE.
>> GOOD DESCRIPTION. THANK YOU, TIM.
>> IT COULD BE IN A PLAN EVEN AT DEVELOPMENT THEN [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT, THE SQUARE ROOT FOR THE REQUIREMENT FOR FUNS, SO THAT'D BE THE PROPERTIES ON BIG ENOUGH IT MIGHT NOT FIT THE REQUIREMENTS TO APPLAUD THEIR.
>> BENEFIT IS BIG ENOUGH CAUSE THAT THE MINIMUM IT CAN OCCURS.
>> [NOISE] THIS IS APPROVED, WE'RE NOT HAVING A NEW OPENING FOR THESE PUBLIC FACILITIES IN THESE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS ALLOWING MORE RESTRICTIONS WITH BUFFERING TO BE WHEN IT DOES OCCUR.
>> THAT REALLY ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. JOHN.
>> MOVING ON, 8C WE MARK ON THE WORKSHOP.
A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THIS ONE.
>> THE ONLY THING WE'RE CHANGING HERE, DONAHUE YOU DRESS IN THIS? PURPOSE FOR THIS SECTION.
>> I REWROTE IT SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND IN THE SHELVES SO YOU CAN SEE THAT.
>> THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE CROSSING OUT AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE KILLING HIM.
>> YOU'RE CROSSING OUT CONVEY OWNERSHIP OR TITLE OR THE DESERT AREA OR CITY TO THE PARK. THAT'S WHERE IT STARTED NOW?
>> TO ANSWER THIS ONE, I HAVE TO POINT TO ANOTHER.
YOU'RE PASSING A VALUE TODAY WHERE IT'S ON THE AGENDA ON BIASING THE CITY MANAGER TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS REGARDING STEROID PAGE,
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INCLUDING THE DEMOLITION OF THE FACILITY.I HAD A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE WITH PARKWOOD SUMMIT, BUT SOME 30 YEARS AGO REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GOLF COURSE AND I FOUND THAT THERE WAS A TITLE QUESTION.
THAT TITLE QUESTION HAS ALSO HAS BEEN RAISED AND THE WORK BOARDS REQUESTS FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION WHERE THEY ASKED THE QUESTION, ONCE WE PUT SOMETHING UNDER THE MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL AS PART, CAN WE TAKE IT BACK? I FOUND THAT ADVISABLE TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING UNDER THE MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL OF PART THAT WE DO NOT CONVEY OWNERSHIP OF THAT PERSON.
BEFORE THIS AMENDMENT WAS OFFERED, MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL WAS ONLY DEFINED IN THE NEGATIVE SAYING THEY COULD MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CAN LEASE THE PROPERTY FOR X PERIOD OF TIME.
INSTEAD I PUT IN MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL, DOES NOT CONVEY OWNERSHIP OF THE CHANGE.
THE REST BASICALLY IS UNCHANGED FROM THE PRIOR CODE.
>> IT'S FINE TO ME AGAIN, HOW IT WENT FROM NEGATIVE TO POSITIVE.
>> I SHOWED YOU THE WRONG ONE. THAT'S THE LIMIT.
IT SHOULD BE PRINTED LIKE THAT.
>> THAT IS THE ORIGINAL CODE AND WHAT I DID WAS I MARKED OUT WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AND THEN FILLED IN WITH THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA OF WHAT HE WANTS TO CHANGE TO.
>> I'VE TAKEN THAT OUT BACK TO ME.
>> FIRST OF ALL, HERE JUST A MINUTE.
LET'S GET A COPY OF THIS SO THAT ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD SEE THIS DEFECT.
>> BECAUSE IT WAS VERY CONFUSING [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T RUN BETWEEN THEM [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S WHAT IT IS. [LAUGHTER]
>> [OVERLAPPING] IF YOU WERE GETTING THAT COFFEE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YET? [LAUGHTER]
>> I'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE TO WALMART.
>> SORRY ABOUT IT. LET'S PULL IT. WE'RE CHANGING THE LANGUAGE HERE.
WHY ARE WE CHANGING THIS LANGUAGE ABOUT THE APPOINTEES AND THE ELIGIBILITY TO SIT ON ALL THREE BOARDS VERSUS TWO?
>> THAT WAS DONE YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS A STATEMENT TO BASICALLY COMBINE ALL THREE AGENCIES UNDER THREE SEPARATE BOARDS.
THE MEMORIES ALL BE THE SAME SO MAKE A SYNERGY AND AT FIRST WORKSHOP IT WAS DECIDED YOU WANTED TO GO IN A DIRECTION, YOU DISASSOCIATE THE RDA FROM THE TWO HOUSING AGENCIES.
THIS IS KNOWN AS TWO HOUSING AGENCIES HAS THE PROPERTY.
>>NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, I'VE SERVED ON BOTH OF THEM.
IS THAT THE DECISION THAT WE MADE IN THAT MEETING?
>> WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE MEETING POSSIBLY SEPARATING THESE BOARDS AND KEEP MAKING THEM BACK TO THE TWO ENTITIES THEY ORIGINALLY WERE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY A CONSENSUS IN MY OPINION AT THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL.
BUT WE HAD ENOUGH TALK THAT WE BROUGHT THIS BACK IF COUNCIL WANTS TO SUPPORT SEPARATING THESE TWO ENTITIES.
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I'M REFERRING TO THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AUTHORITY AND THE CORPORATION AND THE RDA.WE HAVE THIS TO VOTE ON TODAY.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO SEPARATE THOSE, WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THIS.
>> THIS LANGUAGE WOULD FACILITATE THE SEPARATION OF THOSE BOARDS.
>> BEFORE WE DO THAT, I THOUGHT OUR DISCUSSION IN THAT WORKSHOP WAS TO SET GOALS FOR THOSE BOARDS AND IF THOSE GOALS DID NOT ALIGNED AND FORM A SYNERGY BETWEEN THE THREE ENTITIES, WE WOULD SEPARATE.
BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE GOALS FIRST AND WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE THOSE BOARDS DO.
THEN SEE IF IT WAS BETTER FOR THEM TOGETHER OR SEPARATE THEM.
>> WE SURELY CAN DO IT THAT WAY.
WE HAD ENOUGH INPUT AT THE COUNCIL THAT IT WAS MY FEELING AND STAFF FEELING THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK THIS CHANCE TO SEPARATE THESE TWO ENTITIES ARE NOT.
BUT WE SURE CAN MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION JOHN IF COUNCIL AGREE.
>> IF I REMEMBER, OPPOSITE THE VIEW, I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT [LAUGHTER] SEPARATING THE RDA FROM THE OTHER TWO BECAUSE IT REALLY HAS A DIFFERENT MISSION WHERE THE RDA IS MORE LARGER DEVELOPED AND LEAST IN MY MIND.
THE OTHER IS MORE FOR HOUSING, LOW TO MIDDLE AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS A GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT IF THEY SEPARATE THE RDA OUT.
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET STATE APPROVAL FOR THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS.
>> I DON'T REALLY CARE IF THEY ARE SEPARATED OR TOGETHER, BUT WE CONTINUE TO JUST SHUFFLE OUR FEE HERE ON THIS ISSUE AND NOTHING REALLY.
WE ARE SPENDING TIME TO SEPARATE THESE BOARDS AND WE DON'T HAVE A MISSION FOR THESE BOARDS.
>> WELL, WHY DON'T WE ACTUALLY SET A MISSION FOR THE BOARD AND FORM THE BOARD TO ACHIEVE THAT MISSION.
>> WE'VE HAD EVEN THOUGH COUNCIL MAY NOT HAVE INTERPRETED THAT WAY, WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WHERE WE ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT, TO SET GUIDELINES AND GOALS FOR THESE BOARDS.
WE SURELY CAN MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE NEED TO TURN THIS DOWN, WE'LL GET BACK ON THE WORKSHOP.
I WOULD SAY THAT IF COUNCIL MOVES IN THE DIRECTION OF SEPARATING THE BOARDS, THERE ARE MORE ORDINANCES COMING AT OUR MAY MEETING THAT WE'LL PROBABLY ADDRESS MORE WHICH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JOHN.
>> ORDINANCES TO DEFINE THE MISSION AND THE GOALS, ARE THEY SOURCE?
>> TO GIVE US MORE CLARITY ON WHAT WE WANT, HOW WE WANT THIS BOARDS TO FUNCTION.
>> WELL, IT SURE DOES SEEM LIKE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HERE.
>> SURELY IF THAT'S THE CASE AND COUNCIL STOPPED WE SURELY CANNOT SUPPORT THIS AND COME BACK.
>> MITCHELL, EITHER YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE ROW THERE OR YOU ARE COMING FORWARD?
WE HAVE SOME BROAD GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN THE NAD SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
BUT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AROUND SPLITTING THEM WAS JUST A MATTER OF THE BOARD ITSELF IS MOVING IN ONE DIRECTION ON THE HOUSING PIECE AND THEN REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN FOCUSING MUCH ON THE ACTUAL RDA MISSION AND GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
IT SEEMS LIKE PULLING THEM OUT MAY ALLOW US TO DO THE MISSION BOTH WITH MAYBE DIFFERENT BOARDS.
MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE STAFF RELATED BUT I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, I THINK IT NEEDS YOU.
[INAUDIBLE] BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OBJECTIVES THAT ARE VERY HIGH LEVEL THAT HADN'T BEEN APPROVED.
>> THE INTERMEDIATE DISTINCT, DIFFERENT MISSIONS WOULD THE OTHER TWO GROUPS DO VERSES THE RDA.
BECAUSE THE RDA COULD GO INTO INDUSTRIAL OR RETAIL OR WHATNOT, WHEREAS THE OTHER DON'T.
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I THINK THAT'S WHY THERE ARE FLOUNDERING NOW IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT CAME OVER FROM THE ONE BOARD JUST WANTED TO DO HOUSING.THERE'S JUST A GREAT WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM DIRECTION, BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER TO SEPARATE THEM.
>> LET'S STAY WITH THE TOPIC HERE.
DAVID, YOU'VE HAD I THINK WANT TO YOU SAY SOMETHING, I GOT UP HIS HANDS ON THIS.
>> I HONESTLY DON'T RECALL WHAT THE CENSUS COUNCIL WAS ABOUT SEPARATING.
IT WAS WHETHER WE SHOULD GO FORWARD AND SEPARATE BOARDS, BUT IT WAS CLEAR WE HAD AN OFFSET MISSION FOR THEM, AND THAT DOING SO, RDA AND THE HOUSING FINANCE AND DEVELOPMENT, THE HOUSING BOARDS, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT MISSIONS.
THAT SEEMED CLEAR. THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WHEN WE PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER A FEW YEARS AGO WAS THAT WE COULD SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS, COMBINE THE BOARDS AND THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURAL SIMPLIFICATION PUT THEM TOGETHER.
BECAUSE NONE OF THEM WERE DOING VERY MUCH.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM DO SOMETHING, IT SEEMS THAT RDA, ON THE ONE HAND, THE HOUSING ON THE OTHER, THEY SHOULD BE GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
MAYBE I'M WRONG, MAYBE YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY.
THAT SEEMS LIKE RDA WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING THAN HOUSING.
>> WELL, EXCUSE ME JOHN, I THINK WE'RE GETTING OUT AND DISCUSSING THE MISSION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE.
>> EXCUSE ME. BUT I THINK IT'S NOT THAT WE SHOULD BE CLARIFYING THE MISSION, BUT THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS WE'RE BIFURCATING THIS BECAUSE THOSE MISSIONS ARE LIKELY TO BE DIFFERENT, AND THAT HAVING THEM TOGETHER AS MUDDLED THE CONVERSATION SOMEWHAT A POINT.
>> I DON'T PERCEIVE IT THAT WAY, BUT JOHN, GO AHEAD.
THEY COULD DO DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE HAVE SEEN THEM IN THE PAST DO SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.
WE HAVE TUTORS THAT WERE CONTROLLED BY THE RDA THAT FOCUSED ON HOUSING.
NOW THAT WASN'T LOW-INCOME HOUSING BUT IT WAS HOUSING, WHICH GALVESTON PROPERTY CAN DO ALL DAY LONG.
THERE'S NO LIMITS ON THAT. YOU HAVE TWO BOARDS THAT DO HAVE SIMILAR MISSION.
>> BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THE STRING.
>> YOU HAVE, BUT THERE'S NO REASON WHY THEY COULDN'T FUNCTION AS ONE.
REALLY I THINK THEY TIE A LOT OF STUFF TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE THOSE ELEMENTS IN ALL OF THOSE.
YOU CAN HAVE A LOWER-INCOME HOUSING WITH MIDDLE-INCOME HOUSING, WITH THE RDA REDEVELOPING AN AREA ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME WORDS, BUT THERE ARE LOT OF SIMILARITIES WITHIN THESE BOARDS.
IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT AND KNOW WHAT THESE WORDS CAN DO TOO.
[OVERLAPPING] AGAIN, I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE SEPARATED OR NOT.
THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING IN SEVERAL YEARS.
AGAIN, WE NEED TO DEFINE MISSIONS FOR THESE BOARDS AND THEN FORM THE BOARD TO ACHIEVE THOSE MISSIONS.
>> IF THAT'S COUNCILS THOUGHT, WE CAN EITHER TURN THIS MOTION DOWN OR WE COULD DEFER THIS WHEN IT COMES UP, [OVERLAPPING] OR WE CAN IMPROVE IT.
LET ME JUST SAY THIS TOO AND I DON'T WANT US GETTING OFF ON A TANGENT MYSELF, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE WE MAY NOT EVEN SEE A NEED FOR ONE OR BOTH OF THESE BOARDS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS.
WILLIAM, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> I'LL JUST GO WITH JOHN SAYING, I THINK NO MATTER WHAT THE DECISION IS TONIGHT, EITHER MAY OR JUNE, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A FORM OF SOME GOALS THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO GIVE THEM, WHETHER IT'S A FORM OF ORDINANCE RESOLUTION.
>> THIS RESOLUTION WOULDN'T BY ITSELF SEPARATE THE BOARDS AUTOMATICALLY THIS WE'RE JUST SEPARATED.
IF YOU WANTED TO START APPOINTING DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO THE RBA THEN THE OTHER TWO BOARDS THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE FREEDOM TO DO THAT.
>> THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. IT DID STRIKE ME IF THIS ORDINANCE WAS TO SEPARATE THE BOARDS.
IT WAS A STRANGE WHAT I TRIED TO MENTION THAT TO DO THAT, I COULDN'T FIGURE THAT OUT.
I KNOW WHAT THE GOAL WAS, BUT I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
>> I SEARCHED FOR THIS CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE TO FIND IF WE DID ANY RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING.
BUT PUT THESE THREE BOARDS TOGETHER AND THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE DID.
THEN THEY APPOINTED ALL THE SAME PEOPLE TO THOSE THREE BOARDS AND THOSE BOARDS CAN VOTE ON THEIR MEETINGS OR ON THEIR OWN.
>> THANK YOU TREVOR APPRECIATE IT. JOHN.
>> WE CAN GET BACK TO THE THIRD POINT.
>> JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I DID HERE, WHAT I DID WAS I COPIED WHAT THE ORIGINAL WAS,
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I MARKED OFF WHAT THEY WERE MARKING OFF TO BE CHANGED.THEN I HIGHLIGHTED THEIR CHANGES BECAUSE AT THE BOTTOM OF IT THERE WAS ONLY THREE LINES, SO THEY PUSHED ALL THE LINES DOWN AND THEN ADDED LINE NUMBER 1.
EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IS WHAT THEY'VE CHANGED. THAT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY TO ME.
DAVID HAD IT ALL WORKED OUT. [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR ME, IT'S A NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE, AND I THINK THE CHANGE THERE IS STRIKING NOT BE SCREWED.
WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS DOES THE GREATEST DEPARTMENT DO?
>> I HOPE WE DO CATEGORICALLY, BOOK IT FOR OUR ADMIN PROGRAM, AND THEN IF WE'RE DOING HOUSING REHAB WE'LL HAVE TO DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL FOR THOSE IN THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
IT'S JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL WILL HAVE TO DO.
>> IN THIS ITEM HERE IS JUST GIVING AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER TO DIRECT YOU ALL TO SIGN OFF ON THOSE ENVIRONMENTALS?
>> YES, SIR. IT'S JUST ASKING FOR THIS DOCUMENTATION.
>> NO, SIR. IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE.
I DON'T THINK KENNY HAS EVER EVER ASKED US FOR A RESOLUTION.
BUT THEY JUST STARTED DOING SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING IN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
THEY HAD FIELD OFFICE BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING LINED UP SHOWING THAT EACH CITY HAS A RESOLUTION ALLOWING THE DIRECTOR AND THE MANAGER TO SIGN OFF ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
>> THIS JUST CAME ABOUT BECAUSE HUD PASS FOR THE RESOLUTION?
>> 11K. THIS IS THE BOTTLERS FOR THE SEAWALL, THIS TAKES US FROM 19-6, THIS SECTION HERE?
>> AND SO FAR, WE'VE SPENT ABOUT $1.6 MILLION ON THE BOTTLERS?
>> NO, SIR. THE TOTAL EXPENDITURE TODAY IS 747,000.
>> WELL, OFF ON MY MATH THERE. YES.
>> YES, SIR. WE'VE INSTALLED LITTLE OVER ALMOST $252 THUS FAR.
THAT'S FROM 29-39, THEN 39-40.
>> OKAY. THIS CONTRACT'S NOT FOR THE $839,000.
>> NO. THIS ONE, THE AMOUNT HERE I DID NOT ADD THAT AMOUNT WITH WHAT WE'VE SPENT THUS FAR.
>> THIS IS FOR JUST THE NEW SECTION.
>> THIS IS JUST FOR THE NEW SECTION, TOTAL WILL BE 1.5 MILLION.
>> YEAH, INCLUDING THIS TODAY.
>> OKAY. WE'VE SPENT ROUGHLY ABOUT $800,000 ON THE REST.
>> WE'LL HAVE THE WHOLE SEAWALL AT 66 TO 61ST FIRST-YEAR.
>> IS THAT REPLACING THE ONES THAT WE HAVE UP THERE?
>> NO, NOT AT THIS POINT, CRAIG.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS AS THOSE BECOME AND HAVING SOME FAILURES ON THOSE AS THEY FAIL, WE WILL MOVE THE ONES ON THE ENDS TO WHERE THEY FAIL AND THEN WE'LL START CLOSING IN ONCE WE'VE COMPLETED ALL THE REST OF IT.
I TOLD BUTCH, WE'LL LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND WE HAVE THE MONEY, WE'LL PROBABLY COME BACK AND REPLACE THEM AND ALSO REALIGN THEM.
THE INITIAL ONES WERE NOT PLACED ON THE PARKING LINES LIKE WE'RE DOING SO THEY GET DAMAGED BY CAR DOORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT WAS DONE BY THE TRANSIT PLANNING GROUP THAT DID THAT BEFORE MY TIME.
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BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE LINED UP.WE'LL PROBABLY EVENTUALLY DO THOSE TOO, BUT WE WANT TO GET THEM.
WE WANT TO GO AND GET EVERYTHING LIT AS BEST WE CAN NOW, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND ADDRESS THAT.
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT MAKES PARKING VERY WITH ROAD.
>> EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE. SECOND, WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR ALL?
>> SEAWALL PARKING ROAD, I'M SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT. NOT A DOUBLE BOND.
>> THE PLAN IS TO GO TO WESTERLY HOW FAR.
>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO WE GET INTO 60 FIRST AND FROM 6-61ST, WHICH IS YOUR PRIMARY BEACH, WE'LL START MOVING DOWN BABES NEXT.
>> WOULD THERE BE A NEED WITH THESE FOR THE TEMPORARY LIGHTING THAT WE HAVE ON BIG EVENTS ANYMORE?
>> ACTUALLY THIS PAST YEAR, WE HAVE HAD TO USE THAT.
WE USE SOME OF THAT FROM THE TOWER LIGHTING JUST IN CASE BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THIS TAKES CARE OF A LOT OF THAT.
>> THE SEAWALL PARKING REVENUE, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES IT GENERATE THE CITY TOUR?
>> I MEAN, GIVE OR TAKE. THAT'S COMPLETELY ABSENT FLOWS.
>> WELL, I THINK IT WAS 900 AND SOMETHING THIS LAST YEAR.
>> OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE.
>> DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT TOMMY?
>> YEAH. WE'RE AT THREE PHASES, 1.6 MILLION AND WE'RE USING WE'RE NOT BIDDING THIS OUT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT GETTING THIS ALL.
>> WE DO THAT IT OUT. WE HAVE A MASTER ELECTRICAL CONTRACT THAT WE'D BEEN OUT.
>> THIS IS SEPARATE FROM LIKE, HEY, I NEED ANOTHER CIRCUIT OVER HERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> THE LIGHTS ARE BUT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, PRESS ELECTRIC, IS ON CONTRACT WITH US.
>> WE'D BEEN AN HOURLY RATE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE. WE'RE BUYING THE LIGHTS OFF OF FIVE BOARD AND THEN THE LABOR IS PROVIDED UNDER OUR ELECTRICAL AGAIN?
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS IN HERE THOUGH.
THEY SAID THEY'RE TO SUPPLY AND INSTALL THE LIGHTS.
>> THEY'RE PURCHASING THE LIGHTS.
WE'RE PAYING 20% MORE FOR THEM TO PURCHASE THE LIGHTS.
>> WE'RE NOT USING THE BUYBOARD.
>> MOST OR WHERE THIS IS DIRECTLY THROUGH CRUSTAL LAMINA?
>> WHAT'S THE REFERENCE TO BUYBOARD THEN?
>> NO. WHAT'S THE REFERENCE TO BUYBOARD.
I HEAR SOME GOOD QUESTION HERE.
>> OVER THE COSTING, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET.
>> CONTRACTING. [OVERLAPPING] WELL, CONTRACTING WITH CRESCENT TO GO GET THE LIGHTS AND INSTALL?
>> THEN I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REFERENCE TO THE BUYBOARD WERE.
>> IS HE USING THE BUYBOARD PRICING BUY?
>> I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE.
I DON'T KNOW OVER THE TOP OF MY HEAD. [OVERLAPPING].
>> BECAUSE HE GETS MARKUP AND ALL MATERIAL.
>> YEAH. CAN I CHECK ON THAT AND THEN COME BACK AND LET YOU GUYS? IT WAS IN THE REPORT YEAH BUT OKAY.
>> BUT STILL I KNOW THAT THEY'RE APPROVED CONTRACTOR BUT HAS JOB AND WE DID ALL KINDS OF.
>> WELL, THIS IS ANGEL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THIS IS $1.6 MILLION AND COMPETITIVE BIDS HELP THAT PRICE.
I DON'T KNOW. I THINK WE WOULD DO THIS OUT.
>> WHY WOULDN'T WE PURCHASE THROUGH THE BUY AND BOARD BECAUSE WE WOULD GET A BETTER PRICE THAN THEY WOULD?
>> WELL, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE IF THIS PARTICULAR CYCLONE FOLLOWED OR THE COMPANY IS THROUGH BUY.
>> I MISSPOKE. I JUST WATCHED IT.
LET ME GO BACK AND LOOK IN AND DOUBLE-CHECK.
>> SO THE MORE THE FURTHEST ITEM UNTIL WE GET ALL THESE ANSWERS OR CAN WE HAVE THE ANSWERS TODAY.
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS OUR QUESTIONS? ONE IS THE BUYBOARD.
>>THAT'S CORRECT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT WE BUILD THAT OUT. YOU COULD PROBABLY GET THAT ANSWER AND GET IT TO COUNSEL HERE BEFORE OR AFTERNOON MAYBE.
>> 11B. THE QUESTION ABOUT THIS- PETER, DON'T ROLL OFF.
I KNOW WHERE PETER BUILT THIS BUT WHAT IS THE USE OF THIS?
>> DO WE HAVE ONE OF THESE CURRENTLY?
>> SO THIS IS JUST REPLACING THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY USE.
>> ACTUALLY, WE HAVE TWO OF THEM.
ONE OF THEM WENT OUT OF SERVICE DUE TO CORROSION, SO THIS WILL REPLACE THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
>> I GUESS THE CONTAINER IS SEPARATE FROM THIS?
>> THE CONTAINER COMES TOGETHER WITH THE TRUCK.
>> WE CAN BUY ADDITIONAL CONTAINERS INCLUDING INTAKE.
>> I'LL SLUDGE FROM THE TURBINES.
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>> QUICK QUESTION ON THAT ONE.
>> SO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND THE SITUATION THAT CREATED THIS ISSUE WITH WHY WE'RE HIRING GOSLING FOR TEXAS INTERNATIONAL TERMINALS.
>> WE DON'T HIRE LOUIS GOSLING SPECIFIC WITH THEM.
WHAT WE DO IS, EVERY YEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE PROCURE A BLANKET ENCUMBRANCE WITH THEM AND WE USE LOUIS GOSLING TO HANDLE WATER COMPLIANCE, WASTEWATER COMPLIANCE, AND STORM-WATER COMPLIANCE ISSUES WITH THE EPA AND THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
WHATEVER POPS UP THROUGH THE YEAR THAT WE NEED THEIR ASSISTANCE, EITHER FOR ENFORCEMENT OR FOR GETTING OUR REPORTS COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED, IT IS DONE WITHIN.
IN ADDITION, WE USE THEM LIKE IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE A FINE FOR THE TCEQ, AND IN ORDER TO FIGHT IT, THEN WE WOULD USE THEIR SERVICES FOR THEM.
IT WAS NEVER INTENDED FOR TEXAS INTERNATIONAL TERMINALS TO EAT UP HALF OF OUR PURCHASED ORDER THAT WE HAD FOR THE YEAR.
THEY HAVE HAD SOME FAILURES WITHIN THEIR SYSTEM WHICH HAS RELEASED PETROLEUM SLUGS INTO OUR PLANT.
LUCKILY, WE WERE ABLE TO CONTAIN IT AND NOT RELEASING IT TO THE ENVIRONMENT WHICH WAS A BIG KUDOS FOR OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATORS, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH.
TEXAS INTERNATIONAL TERMINALS WAS VERY RESPONSIVE.
THEY HELPED US CLEAN UP, THEY'VE HELPED US MAKE SURE THAT WE GET EVERYTHING IN CONTROL.
PART OF THEIR PERMIT EACH TIME THIS HAPPENS, REQUIRES THEM TO IMPROVE THEIR SLUG CONTROL PLAN AND AS THEY GET SUBMITTED UP TO THE STATE.
SO PART OF THAT IS FACILITATED.
OUR POLAR COORDINATES ALLOWS US TO RECOUP COSTS THAT ARE CREATED BY THE DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS.
IN THIS CASE, WE SOUGHT TO RECOUP $38,000 AND THEY PAID AND IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.
WE'VE EXHAUSTED THOUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THAT DO BECAUSE OF THAT.
THE STAFF REPORT WAS MEANT TO BE PUT OUT SO THAT I CAN HAVE SOME ROOM FOR ANY ISSUES THAT OCCUR BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
>> I UNDERSTAND IT BETTER NOW, I THINK.
THE 38,000, YOU WENT OVER YOUR BUDGET BASICALLY.
>> THEY HAVE REIMBURSED US, BASICALLY.
>> WE'RE REALLOCATING THE MONEY TO THIS AND INCREASING THE P0 BY THAT AMOUNT.
>> [NOISE] THE 38,000, IS THAT FOR PREVIOUS SERVICES OR FUTURE SERVICES?
>> LET'S SAY WE GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE ONLY SPENT 15,000, DO WE ROLL THAT OVER TO NEXT YEAR?
>> NO. IT DROPS TO THE BOTTOM LINE AND WE REALLOCATE WITH ZERO-BASED BUDGET.
SO EVERYTHING AT THE END OF THE EAR DROPS TO FUND BALANCE AND THEN WE REALLOCATE NEXT YEAR.
>> SO, WE KEEP THAT MONEY AS WELL.
>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, AND I MISSED THIS, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS ON THAT SIDE AND SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING, SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PULL BACK.
>> I HAVE THAT DOWN ALREADY WHEN WE GET TO THEM.
THOSE ARE RATIFICATION STAFF REPORTS APPROXIMATELY SIX WEEKS AGO.
ACTUALLY, GOING BACK ALMOST 8 WEEKS AGO.
WE WERE EXPERIENCING QUITE A BIT OF SEWER FAILURES BETWEEN 1ST STREET TO 61ST STREET.
OUR STAFF HAD BEEN JUMPING ON QUITE A BIT OF IT INTERNALLY BUT IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE THE FAILURES OR THE CATASTROPHIC, THEY WERE LARGE.
IT GOT BEYOND OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE INTERNALLY, ESPECIALLY THE SPEED AT WHICH NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED.
AT THAT POINT, I HAD REQUESTED PERMISSION FOR AN EMERGENCY PURCHASE ORDER SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A FEW BLOCKS COMPLETELY REDONE BY A CONTRACTOR WHICH WAS DONE BY A SOUTHERN TRANS LINE ON ONE STAFF REPORT.
IN THE STREET OF TUNA, BETWEEN HOLIDAY AND MARINES, WAS VERY CRACKED UP.
MANY OF THE SERVICES WERE COMPLETELY FAILING AND YOU COULD SEE ALL THE CAVE-INS HAPPENING FROM THE TOP OF THE STREET.
WE WENT AND WE DID A QUICK TELEVISE OF IT.
WE REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING THERE BEFORE IT CAUGHT US AS WELL.
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THAT ONE WAS DONE BY T CONSTRUCTION.ALL THE BLOCKS WERE REPLACED WITH HDPE PIPE.
THEY WERE ALL PIPE BURSTED IN, ALL THE SERVICES WERE 100% REPLACED FROM THE MAIN TO EACH CUSTOMER'S PROPERTY.
IF THERE WERE ANY WATER CONFLICTS ALONG THE WAY, THOSE GOT GOOD AS WELL.
THE STREET LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, TUNA WILL BE REPAID BUT IT'S ON A LIST NOW.
SO IT WASN'T JUMPED IN TO REPAY THEM.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE TEMPORARILY PATCHED IT UP.
THE ALLEYS THAT WERE ALREADY ASPHALTED WILL BE REPAID FOR OUR GROUP THOSE THAT WEREN'T, WILL JUST BE RESURFACED.
>> ARE THESE FAILS? BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF WORK.
DO WE HAVE OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN? I'M SURE WE DO.
>> YES. WE HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, THE PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IN WHICH WE USE A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THAT'S HOW WE FIND A LOT OF THESE THINGS.
THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT TO GET AHEAD OF IT FROM BECOMING EXTREMELY CATASTROPHIC AND REACTIVE.
WE USED A LOT OF THESE MEASURES AT THE TERRAMAR SEWER SHED AS WE WERE TRYING TO BRING THAT PLANT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.
THAT PROCESS IS HAPPENING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE OVEN FROM TIP TO TIP.
>> THIS IS ALL PART OF TRYING TO GET HERE THE INR AS WELL TOGETHER WITH THE HEAVY RAINS YESTERDAY.
HOW MANY GALLONS TO HIT OUR PLAN?
>> YES, SAW THAT AT MAIN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT HAS BROKEN RECENTLY BECAUSE WE HAD THAT IN CONTROL.
THAT MAIN, THEIR TYPICAL FLOW RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 7-8 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AT THIS PART OF THE SEASON.
USUALLY, WHEN WE GET A RAIN, WE MIGHT SEE AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 1 MILLION GALLONS FROM GLORIA INFILTRATION.
THE LAST BIG RAIN THAT WE HAD, WE SPIKED TO 18 MILLION.
THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT AND IT BACKED UP THE SYSTEM AND THAT ALARMED US HEAVILY.
WE'RE WATCHING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY, ALTHOUGH THE RAIN SO FAR HASN'T BEEN AS BAD AS I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
>> IT'S EITHER A SIGNIFICANT BREAK IN OUR SYSTEM OR WATER GOT INTO WHERE PEOPLE HAD THE ILLEGAL DRAINS UNDER THEIR HOUSES, SOMEBODY MAY HAVE ILLEGALLY TARGET OR STORM SEWER DRAIN TO DRAIN SOMETHING. THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
>> THAT'S THE REMAINING GALLONS OF WATER.
>> WHATEVER HAS OCCURRED HAS OCCURRED RECENTLY.
IT'S EITHER A NEW FAILURE OR A NEW TIE-IN.
>> IT'S FOR OUR TREATMENT PLANT. BUT WHEN I SAY RECENT, LIKE THIS CALENDAR YEAR, RECENT.
BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING IT APPARENTLY.
>> WE'VE ALSO HAD PRETTY HIGH TIDES FOR THE LAST A COUPLE MONTH OR SO AND I KNOW I DON'T TYPE IN.
YOU CAN WALK BY SOME OF THE MANHOLE COVERS AND YOU HEAR A LOT OF WATER FLOWING IN THAT MANHOLE COVER.
>> LISTEN, IT'S GOING TO APPEAR FOR IT BUT YES.
>> BUT NO, I CAN TELL YOU JUST LIKE 59TH HAS BEEN SUBMERGED FOR DAYS NOW BECAUSE OF THE TIDES.
ON 13A, THE NET TAXABLE VALUES, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO LAST YEAR'S?
>> THAT SAME PERCENTAGE HIGHER.
>> THAT NUMBER IS ESTIMATED WITH PEOPLE PROTESTING THEIR TAXES.
>> IT'S A GROSS NUMBER. WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND WE'LL GET THE REAL NUMBER.
>> WE WILL GIVE YOU IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE REVENUE NUMBER.
THIS YEAR, WE'VE TAKEN A PRETTY GOOD SIZE HIT WITH SOME OF THESE LAWSUITS AND THINGS.
WE'LL FACTOR THAT INTO OUR BUDGET SO WE'RE NOT CAUGHT SHORT.
WE WON'T BE ANYWHERE NEAR 30% FOR US ABOUT THE TIME WE COME TO BUDGET.
>> SO THE NUMBER THAT THEY PRELIMINARY GIVEN US 30% HIGHER, WE DON'T SEE THAT IN 30% HIGHER WHEN WE ACTUALLY.
>> DOES THAT INCLUDE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION TOO, MIKE?
>> WE HAVE TO BREAK THAT OUT TOO.
>> THEN I THINK 12A, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT NOW OR TALK ABOUT IN OUR MEETING?
>> IF YOU HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THAT OR SUGGESTIONS ON THAT, WE COULD GET TO REALLY DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS.
>> I MAY NOT HAVE THE ONE CONCERN, I HAVEN'T BEEN BOMBARDED BY EMAILS, HENCE IF WE DO DEMOLISH THE PAVILION OR IN DEMOLISHING THE PAVILION, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A SET PLAN ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH JUNIOR LIFEGUARDS?
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>> BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN.
IT STATES THAT BRIAN IS GOING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN ON THAT.
YES. THE WATERFALL FIREFIGHTERS, OBVIOUSLY.
>> I'LL PROBABLY BRING ON MORE ON THAT LATER.
>> YOU SHOULD ALWAYS START WITH JOBS.
>> WHERE IT SERVES A PURPOSE THEN WE DO IT.
>> THERE IS A PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THERE NOW.
>> YES. WE'VE PULLED OFF THE DANGEROUS PIECES OF IT, BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH LEFT.
>> YES, SO IT WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED.
WE'LL STILL HAVE TO REMOVE IT, WE'LL JUST HAVE AN OPEN SPACE.
>> THERE ARE OTHER PARKS ON THE ISLAND THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, GUS ALLEN SENIOR PARK IS ONE OF THEM.
>> WE HAD PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THERE, IT WAS NEVER USED SO WE CONVERTED IT INTO A DOG AREA.
>> IT WAS A REQUEST TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, ACTUALLY.
>> SAN JACINTO PARK WAS SIMILAR TO DO AND WE REPLACED THAT EQUIPMENT DOWN THERE TOO.
>> WHAT'S YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THAT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT EQUIPMENT ON OTHER PARKS.
>> YES, AND ENOUGH PARKS IN THAT AREA.
>> I'M SORRY. ACROSS BROADWAY.
>> THERE'S GUS ALLEN WHICH WAS GREATLY UNDERUTILIZED, AND WE CONVERTED THAT TO A DOG PARK.
I THINK DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS AUTHORIZED YOU, FULLY BEHIND THAT.
OF COURSE, THERE'S THE ONGOING REMEDIATION OF SHIELD PARK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I HOPE WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
>> WE'RE STILL WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
>> BECAUSE GUS ALLEN HAS BEEN VERY USEFUL IN HELPING GET THE TCP REMEDIATION ON THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I SUGGEST THIS PARK IS ADJACENT TO A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO THE EQUIPMENT IS USED DAILY.
IT'S ALSO REALLY CONSIDERED A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
>> BUT WE ALSO HAVE EQUIPMENT AT A [NOISE] COMMUNITY CENTER.
>> WELL, THE ONLY REASON WHY I BRING THIS UP IS I WENT TO A FUNCTION THERE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO AND IT WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY HAD IT HERE, BUT THE AREA THAT THEY HAD IT WAS AT A CENTRAL'S BALL FIELD OR THE PARK FIELD RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
I WAS SO SAD TO SEE THESE KIDS THAT WERE TRYING TO PLAY AND I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY A SCHOOL DISTRICT PROBLEM, BUT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S NO PARKS AROUND THERE.
BUT THEY WERE RUNNING THROUGH THERE WITH GOAT HEADS, OR THOSE PRIORS IN THEIR FEET SCREAMING.
THEY WERE FIRE ANTS EVERYWHERE, IT WAS A MESS.
[OVERLAPPING] THERE'S NOT A TREE THERE.
>> THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING ON THE PROBLEM OF A PARK.
>> I KNOW I'M OFF SUBJECT, SORRY GUYS.
>> ONCE AGAIN, REPEAT THE QUESTION.
>> I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE.
>> I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE
>> IT'S IMMEDIATELY OBVIOUS [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> DO YOU RECALL THE YEAR THAT IT WAS CONVERTED TO THE DOG PARK?
EIGHTEEN OR 19, THAT WASN'T OLD..
>> THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU DIDN'T GET ENOUGH KIDS THERE IS BECAUSE THE FAMILIES WERE MOVED FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF BROADWAY AND THAT LIMITED.
>> IT WAS IN CONFLICT WITH ST. VINCENT'S HOUSE, SO EVERYBODY WAS AT ST. VINCENT'S HOUSE AND NOT OVER ON THIS AREA.
HOW WE ACQUIRED THAT LAND WAS THE GAS COMPANY LOST THAT LAND YEARS AGO WHEN IT FIRST CAME UP ABOUT THE CONTAMINATION OF SHIELD PARK.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A WORD ABOUT THAT PLAYGROUND AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S AT ST. VINCENT NOW PLAYGROUND AREA.
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THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.>> COUNCIL, WE'RE GETTING [OVERLAPPING] OFF TOPIC HERE.
WE NEED TO DO PARK ANY QUESTION ANY FURTHER ON THAT?
>> NOTHING ON THAT, 11W, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE DONATION OF THIS DOG IS JUST AMAZING.
THAT ONE CANINE WENT TO RETIREMENT AND SOME PEOPLE CAME UP AND GAVE A DOG TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO THAT'S GOOD.
>> I HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT ONE TOO.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DONATED THIS DOG, BUT I KNOW MY FRIENDS DONATED A DOG IN THE PAST.
SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE IN SOME WAY THAT PEOPLE AND MY FRIENDS ARE MORE ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE PUBLICLY RECOGNIZED, BUT THEY DID AT LEAST WENT TO MEET THE DOG IN THE OFFICE.
BECAUSE THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING THAT PEOPLE DO, THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.
WE ASK IF WE DID GET THE DOG, THE DOG IS WITH US, OFFICER HERE'S A PICTURE.
IF THE PEOPLE AREN'T PRIVATE, THEN LET THEM COME AND WE THANK THEM.
>> EXCUSE ME. IS ASSISTANT POLICE ACADEMY ALUMNI THAT MADE THE DONATIONS.
AT THIS TIME, THE DOG OR THE HANDLER HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED.
IF IT'S APPROVED, THEN THE SELECTION PROCESS WILL BEGIN AT THAT TIME.
>> IN THAT CASE, THE ONE THAT MY FRIENDS DONATED, SHE'S ALREADY WITH A POLICEMAN AND THEY WOULD JUST TO MAKE THE DOG A REPLACEMENT BECAUSE HER MOTHER HAD PASSED AWAY AND SHE DID IT IN HONOR OF HER.
>> THERE'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL SET SOMETHING UP.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT.
>> ALMOST ALL MY THINGS HAVE BEEN COVERED EXCEPT FOR 11H, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT BEACH PERMIT GO IN BOTH THE CITY AND THE PARK BOARD TONIGHT.
WE'RE MODIFYING THE IDC REQUEST.
>> RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S THE BILL?
>> BUT JUST RIGHT NOW THE PERMITS ARE IN THE PARK BOARD'S NAME.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE IN THE PARK BOARD AND THE CITY'S NAME, IT'S THE BEACH PERMIT.
>> WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, GUIDE ME ON THIS JOHN, THAT WOULD NEED TO COME FROM IDC TO THE COUNCIL.
>> BUT I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING THAT'S OFF THE AGENDA JUST BECAUSE IT'S VERY EXCITING.
MY MEETING, I WENT TO THE TEXAS SHORE AND BEACH MEETING IN BOSTON, WHICH I SHOULD'VE MENTIONED WHY WE HAD SUCH A HORRENDOUS STORM.
BECAUSE EVERY TIME I'VE GONE THERE THIS YEAR, THERE'S BEEN A HORRENDOUS STORM.
I THINK THEY SHOULD PAY ME BECAUSE THEY WERE IN A DROUGHT.
[LAUGHTER] BUT THE GLO ANNOUNCED THAT THEY ARE DOING REGIONAL PERMITS, WHICH MEANS THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO OUR OWN, WE WOULD RUN UNDER THE REGIONAL PERMIT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S EXCITING NEWS AND WE CAN PUT MORE MONEY TOWARDS THEM OR WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT TOWARDS PERMIT.
>> UNLESS THERE'S STORM, THEN YOU CAN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING.
>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF TOPICS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP.
JOHN, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOUR NEW LEGAL DEPARTMENT INDIVIDUAL.
HOW DID YOU PRONOUNCE HER NAME, JOHN? I UNDERSTAND.
WELL, I APPRECIATE IT IT'S PRE-ASSURANCE, SO IT'S VOTED ON?
>> CORRECT. BUT HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE HER NAME?
>> HER GRAND SALARY WILL BE 128, WHICH IS WHAT I BROUGHT TREVOR IN IN A FEW YEARS AGO.
>> SOSHI. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THREE TO FOUR YEARS OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTION IN BOTH THE GALVESTON DA AND HARRIS COUNTY DA'S OFFICE.
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AT THIS POINT IN HER LIFE, SHE DOES NOT WISH TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THE TYPES OF FELONY CASES INVOLVING CHILDREN THAT SHE DEALS WITH AND I GET IT.>> BUT YOU OFTEN HAD EXPERIENCE HANDLING THE MANAGEMENT STAFF.
>> GOOD. WE'LL HAVE THAT [LAUGHTER] ON OUR AGENDA FOR APPROVAL COMING UP.
>> I'M GOING TO ALSO MENTION 11S.
I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK OUR COUNCIL MEMBER MIKE BOUVIER.
>> MIKE, THANK YOU. FOR YOUR DONATIONS TO OUR MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM INTO THE VEHICLE THERE, IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ALSO, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT 10C.
THIS IS THE SUNNY PAGE ISSUE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
WOULD SOMEBODY WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THESE CHANGES TO THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN AND THE FLOW ON HOW THIS MOVES THROUGH THE SYSTEM? WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO? TIM, YOU DO THE SHORT [OVERLAPPING]?
>> GENERALLY SPEAKING, GOOD MORNING.
THE GLO FOR ANY BEACH ACCESS PLAN AMENDMENT CAN OCCUR WHICH OF COURSE, IN AUGUST [NOISE] YOU GUYS SAW IN THE DRAFT INFORMAL VERSION OF WHAT WE WERE CORRESPONDING WITH THE GLO ABOUT.
ANY OF THOSE AMENDMENTS BASICALLY ARE VETTED FIRST THROUGH CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THEM FORMALLY SEEING THE AMENDMENT.
WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IN 10C IS PUTTING THE OTHER PROJECT TO ALLOW FOR THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD BE SENT UP TO THE GLO SO THAT THEY CAN FORMALLY START THEIR REVIEW.
THEY ALSO WORK THROUGH THE TEXAS REGISTER TO GET IT APPROVED, AND THAT MEANS THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WHEN WE DID THE BEACH USER FEES ON THE SEAWALL, WE ADD AN AMENDMENT.
>> BECAUSE THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WE HAD BEEN DOING.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN DIFFERENT?
>> WELL, WHEN WE HAD OUR BEACH, THE LAST BEACH ACCESS CHANGES THAT WENT ON, WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION, SEEMS LIKE, AND THEN CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND THEN WE SENT IT TO THE GLO.
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT PROCESS ON THIS.
>> IN FACT, I DON'T THINK THAT ONE DID GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
>> THIS ONE HERE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I KNOW.
>> YES. IT'S GOING TO BE TO COUNCIL, THEN IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE GLO FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THAT.
THAT'S NOT WRITTEN IN STONE THAT THEY WOULD APPROVE THAT. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> RIGHT. THEY WANT TO SEE YOUR COMMITMENT BEFORE THEY ANALYZE IT.
RIGHT OR WRONG, THAT'S WHAT THEIR PROCESS IS.
THIS COMMITMENT HAS TO BE IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE?
>> IF WE MAKE ANY PARTICULAR CHANGES TO THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN, ANY ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL CHANGES HAS TO COME TO COUNCIL AS AN ORDINANCE. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE ITS CHAPTER 29.
THAT'S CODIFIED IN CHAPTER 29, WHICH IS KEPT IN MUNICODE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU CAN ONLY REVISE AN ORDINANCE THROUGH ANOTHER ORDINANCE.
>> ALL THE CHANGES THAT WILL OCCUR COME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST BEFORE THEY COME TO COUNCIL THEN.
>> IDEALLY. AGAIN, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS IS ONE THAT WENT.
THERE'S A PLAN, THERE'S PENDING INVESTMENT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THAT AND GET THIS MOVING.
>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THE REPUBLIC CAN GIVE INPUT ON THESE.
THAT WOULD BE WHEN THEY COME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY CAN GIVE INPUT TODAY ON THIS, BUT THE OTHER ONES WOULD GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION PROBABLY.
IS THAT RIGHT BEFORE THEY COME TO COUNCIL?
>> TECHNICALLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO, BUT I THINK THAT'S BEEN YOUR PRACTICE. YES.
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>> REMEMBER AS IT GOES THROUGH THE GLO'S PROCESS, THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD UP THERE AS WELL.
>> IF THIS GOES, WE PASS AN ORDINANCE FOR THIS, IT GOES TO THE GLO AND THEY DON'T SUPPORT THIS, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT POINT?
>> GREAT QUESTION. I THINK WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS EITHER READJUST IT OR IF IT'S DECIDED THAT THIS IS THE END, WE'RE NOT PROCEEDING WITH THIS, THEN WE'D HAVE TO REVOKE THE ORDINANCE.
I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND AND PROCEED FORWARD.
YOU HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE GLO ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE AND THERE WASN'T OTHER THAN MAKING SURE THERE WERE ADEQUATE PARKING AND ACCESS TO THE BEACH, THERE WAS NO PUSHBACK ON THIS ORDINANCE FROM THE GLO.
>> WELL, THEY JUST LISTED WHAT'S REQUIRED.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO BE PROVIDED AFTER YOU DO YOUR ORDINANCE AS WELL.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR SPECIFIC OUTLINE OF THE PLAN, [NOISE] WHICH THEY BASICALLY HAVE THAT PORTION OF IT, BUT THE SIGN ELEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLED TO AMEND THE ACCESS POINT WILL NEED TO BE PUT TOGETHER IN THAT PLAN AS WELL AS THEY'RE ASKING FOR A EQUAL OR BETTER ACCESS VERIFICATION.
BASICALLY, THAT'S IN THE TAP AS WELL.
WE'LL PUT THOSE THINGS TOGETHER AND SUBMIT IT ALL UP AS AN ENTIRE PACKAGE.
>> THERE'S 92 PARKING SPOTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER FOR THIS OFF-BEACH PARKING.
HOW CLOSE IS THIS TO THE BEACH ITSELF AND THE BEACH ACCESS?
>> IT'S [OVERLAPPING]. YEAH, IT GOES.
>> THE PLAN IS FOR A PARKING LOT AT THE CORNER OF 3005 AND EIGHT MILE ROAD THAT THE APPLICANT OWNS AND IS INTENDING TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES.
IT ALSO INCLUDES A PAVED WALKWAY TO GET DOWN TO THE BEACH AND AS WELL SOME PARALLEL PARKING NEXT TO IT.
THIS IS ALL ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THERE'S ONE PORTION OF IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GRANT THEM AN EASEMENT TO GET ACROSS.
WE HAVE THAT OLD PIPELINE TRACK THERE THAT THEY HAVE TO GET ACROSS.
THAT PORTION WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED, BUT IT'S BASICALLY, FOR THE MOST PART, THEIR PROPERTY THAT ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ON GETTING TO THE BEACH.
THEN AS WELL AT THE BEACH ITSELF, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CUL-DE-SAC BALLARD PARAMETER.
>> FOR THOSE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE.
>> YEAH, AND DROP-OFF AND THAT KIND OF THING.
>> I NOTICED THERE WAS A PARKING UP AND DOWN EIGHT MILE ROAD, IS THAT CORRECT ALSO?
>> IT'S PARALLEL, AND IT'S AGAIN OFF THE ROADWAY.
IT'S HARD TO TELL WHERE THAT LINE IS BECAUSE THERE'S THE SAND AND EVERYTHING OUT THERE THAT JUST FLOWS AROUND, BUT IT'S A WAYS OFF.
OUR SIGNAGE PLAN IS GOING TO DETAIL THE NEED FOR THOSE FOLKS TO MAKE SURE THAT STAYS IN PARALLEL PARKING FORM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE BACKING OUT THERE IN A BUSY ROAD LIKE THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT IN THE SIGNAGE PLAN.
>> THE 92 SPOTS IS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS THE GLO HAS FOR THAT [INAUDIBLE].
>> IN FACT, THERE'S MORE THAN THE 92.
NOT OFFICIALLY FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S MORE THAN 92 FOR WHAT THE GLO NEEDS AS THEIR MINIMUM COUNT BECAUSE THERE'S THAT PARALLEL PARKING GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN.
I THINK THE CONDITIONERS, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE GLO HAD SOME FUTURE ISSUE WITH THIS ACCESS POINT THAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE THAT PARKING TO BE COUNTED IN THIS.
THIS IS REALLY EXCESS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING.
>> I THINK THE REQUIRED PARKING SPOTS ARE ACTUALLY 89.
THE PARKING LOT ITSELF DOES MORE AND THEN THAT PARALLEL PARKING.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARALLEL PARKING IS 40 FEET WIDE BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER CONCERN ABOUT EIGHT MILE ROAD [OVERLAPPING] BEING SO SKINNY, HOW IT WOULD AFFECT.
ARE WE ALSO INCLUDING IN THIS [INAUDIBLE]? BECAUSE SOMEBODY BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME YESTERDAY AND IT'S STILL ON THE TOPIC.
BUT I THINK WE HAD IT IN LAST THE USE OF A NON-PERVIOUS UNDERBOARD CONSTRUCTION.
>> AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE AMENDMENT IS ONLY THIS PROJECT.
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THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS PENDING THAT WE'VE GOT AN INVESTMENT PENDING FOR.THEY'RE READY TO CUT IT LOOSE.
WE HAVE TWO OTHER PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE AMENDMENTS, ONE WHICH IS A FURTHER EAST ACCESS POINT THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE GLO ON HOW WE WOULD RELOCATE THE SPECIAL USE AREA.
THAT ONE'S TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE GLO.
THEN THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE COMPONENT OF THE PROPOSED CONDOMINIUM FACILITY HAVING A REINFORCED CONCRETE BASE, WHICH MEANS GLO DOESN'T TYPICALLY ALLOW.
THAT'S IN THEIR STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT VARIANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE AMENDMENTS AS WELL IN THE FUTURE ROUNDS OF THOSE AMENDMENTS.
>> DO WE HAVE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN?
>> I THINK THIS ONE WILL BE APPROVED PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE IT MEETS THE CODE. IT MEETS THE LAW.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, ALL OF THE PARALLEL PARKING WOULD BE ON THE WESTSIDE OF EIGHT MILE ROAD.
>> DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR MANAGING PARKING ON THE EASTSIDE? HAVING A PARALLEL PARKING AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GREAT.
IS THERE NOT SOME CONCERN ABOUT PUSHING PARKING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT SIDE?
I JUST ATTENDED THEIR ANNUAL MEETING LAST SATURDAY.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS THEY MADE AND, I THINK IT MADE SENSE JUST LIKE THAT BRILLIANT IS WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING THE POCKET PARKS.
TO PUT ON THE SIGN, ADDITIONAL PARKING IS AVAILABLE AT POCKET PART 3 OR POCKET PART 2, SO THAT PEOPLE, THAT'S RIGHT, LIKE TIPSY TURTLE, YOU COULD WALK TO, IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS. JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
I JUST LOVE, PEOPLE MISUNDERSTOOD.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO OPEN UP ANYTHING UP TO BUILDING SOUTH OF THE DUNE LINE.
>> NO. [OVERLAPPING]. WELL, I MEAN PEOPLE ARE SAYING YOU'RE CLOSING IT FOR DEVELOPMENT.
YOU'RE CLOSING THE ROUTE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
>> YOU'RE NOT CLOSING. IT'S NOT GOING TO CLOSE THE BEACH.
I MEAN, THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE VEHICLE ACCESS ONTO THAT EASTERN END OF THE PORTION.
>> CORRECT. ALL THAT PARKING WON'T BE ALLOWED IN THERE IF WE'RE MOVING THE PARKING OFF THE SAME.
>> I THINK YOU ALL ARE VERY WELL OF THE ISSUES THAT GO ON UP THERE.
>> CLEARLY. WE HAD A GOOD REPORT ON THAT LAST ONE.
>> THE OTHER THING, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS WILL TAKE IF YOU GLO?
>> WERE HOPING FOR AN EXPEDITED REVIEW ON THIS ONE [OVERLAPPING].
[LAUGHTER] I WOULD COUNT ON THE FULL SIX MONTHS.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE WAY WITH GLO.
>> THAT'S PRETEND [OVERLAPPING].
DOES THIS PRECLUDE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE BEACH PLAN WHILE THIS IS IN THE PROCESS?
>> I GUESS IF SIX MONTHS THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
>> AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING THAT.
>> SHORTLY AFTER THIS, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS VISUAL ACCESS AREA IN THE PLAN.
>> WHILE THIS PROCESSING, WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THOSE THINGS.
>> SUBMIT THESE THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. OFFICIALLY, THE SUBMITTAL CAN'T BE SIMULTANEOUS ACCORDING TO THE GLO, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IN THE PAST.
>> BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS CALENDAR YEAR WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE SPATIAL USE AREAS/
>> LOOKED THROUGH THE REPORTS.
THERE'S NO SKETCH OR DRAWING ON HOW THIS ALL LAYS OUT.
THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT?
>> SURE. WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOU SOMETHING BEFORE TONIGHT.
WE'VE GOT THE SUBDIVISION PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THE PARALLEL RESERVE, ALONG EIGHT MILE ROAD, AS WELL IT SHOWS THE PARKING AREA THAT'S PROPOSED IN THE [INAUDIBLE] AREA ON THE BEACH.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT IF I MAY BECAUSE THAT CAME UP DURING THE PLANNING MEETING AND THE DRAWING AND IT WAS ACTUALLY AT THE REQUEST OF PLANNING THAT THE DRAWING BE TAKEN OUT.
I'M NOT SURE WHY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL.
BUT IT WASN'T THE DEVELOPER SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO SHOW IT.
BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE TWO DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT EVERYONE'S CONFUSING, WE ARE ENCLOSING SUNNY BEACH, SUNNY BEACH IS BIG.
FIRST OFF, IT'S THE AREA TO THE WEST OF SUNNY BEACH.
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IT IS A DEFINITE ISSUE, BEACH.HIGH POLICE CALLS AND FUNNY, SOMEBODY WAS TELLING ME A STORY, ACTUALLY, TONY SULLIVAN, THAT WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER, ONE OF HIS FRIENDS WERE SHOT DEAD THERE.
THIS IS ALWAYS BEEN A PARTY BEACH.
LONG HISTORY OF A PARTY BEACH.
>> [INAUDIBLE] I NOTED. MIKE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OF HAVING A MAN IN SOME SITE PLAN ON THAT SO THEY COULD SEE THAT.
>> THESE ORDINATES DIDN'T GO IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION. CORRECT?
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS IT BECAUSE I MISSED THE MEETING AND I [LAUGHTER] WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS RIGHT.
[OVERLAPPING] THE SUBDIVISION PLAN DID AND WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD COME AND SPEAK.
>> ABOUT CLOSING THE BEACH AND THAT WAS REALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT COMPLAINT ITSELF.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANY TYPE OF DRAWING ON THIS, SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THAT DRAWING ON THE IMPROVEMENTS TO EIGHT MILE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, DOES THAT EXIST A DRAWING SHOWING IMPROVEMENTS TO EIGHT MILE?
>> TO THE ROADWAY? IT'S ADJACENT TO THE ROADWAY.
>> YES, IT'S ON THAT PROPERTY.
BUT THE TURNAROUND IS AT THE END OF EIGHT MILE THAT IS WITHIN THE RIGHT WAY.
>> THAT'D BE GREAT TO SEE YOU BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'VE EVEN SEEN THAT.
THEN THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE DEVELOPER.
THOSE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE PAY, IMPROVED OR UNIMPROVED SURFACES?
>> THE DEVELOPERS STEPPED UP TO GET BEYOND THE MINIMAL REQUIREMENT.
HE'S GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT.
>> THAT EASEMENT WHERE THOSE SPACES ARE GOING TO BE ALONG EIGHT MILE, THE PARALLEL PARKING, THAT'S WITHIN A 40 FOOT EASEMENT?
IT MAY BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT.
>> CAN WE DO THAT HERE OR WE WANT TO DO THAT IN THE MEETING?
>> DO WHAT JOHN? [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M JUST HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SPACING.
>> I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TO DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS.
>> NO. I JUST WANT TO GIVE CLARIFICATION.
>> I'M FINE TO ALLOW THAT IF THIS GENTLEMAN CAN FORM IT, BUT LET'S DO IT VERY QUICKLY.
>> YES, OF COURSE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU NEED TO COME FORWARD SO YOU'RE IN THE CAMERA.
>> GREAT, ON CAMERA [LAUGHTER].
EIGHT MILE ROAD IS A 60 FOOT WIDE RIDE AWAY.
IT'S ABOUT A 20 FOOT WIDE STREET.
OUR IMPROVEMENTS BEGAN ONCE YOU'RE WEST OF THAT RIDE AWAY.
THEY'RE 30 FEET WIDE AND THE FIRST 15 FEET IS THEY GET A PARALLEL PARKING, WHICH WILL BE ON THE WIDE SIDE FOR PARALLEL PARKING JUST BECAUSE A NORMAL CAR IS ABOUT SEVEN TO EIGHT FEET WIDE.
THEN THERE'S A FIVE FOOT WALKING PATH AND THEN A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPING.
>> STARTING ON THE FAR WEST SIDE.
>> STARTING ON THE FAR WEST SIDE, YES.
>> PARALLEL PARKING, THAT'S 15 FEET WIDE.
>> THEN OUR STREET IS SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE RIGHT WAY.
>> IT'S ABOUT 20 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
>> WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE EXISTING PAVEMENT ON EIGHT MILE AND GETTING ALL THE WAY OVER THERE TO THE PARALLEL PARKING SPACE? IS THAT ALL REPAVED?
>> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD ALL BE REPAVED, BUT I THINK TO GET OVER TO THE PARALLELS SPOTS, YOU WOULD NEED TO STABILIZE IT.
I WOULD IMAGINE A PERMEABLE SURFACE.
>> WOULD BE A PERMIT YOU COULDN'T DO NON [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY MORE PAVING OUT THERE PER SE WITHIN THE EXISTING ROAD, THEY WOULD JUST IMPROVE FROM THE EDGE OF THE EXISTING ASPHALT.
>> IT COULD BE CRUSHED LIMESTONE AND THEN EVENTUALLY, I GUESS IF WE WILL REPAVE THE [INAUDIBLE] IF WE WANTED TO WE COULD BLIND IN.
>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
>> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC COUNCIL? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
>> BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS, I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO IS OUR WORKSHOP.
THAT'S ONLY CLARIFICATION [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT COULD BE A QUICK WORKSHOP, I THOUGHT OF.
>> EVERYBODY SAID [OVERLAPPING].
>> 12A BRIAN, ON THE ORDINANCE.
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YOU HAVE PUT SOME TIMELINES IN THERE TO CONSIDER START THE DEMOLITION AFTER OCTOBER.PUT SOME TIMELINE TO BRING BACK YOUR PLANS IN THE BEGINNING OF 24.
THAT STILL IS WITHIN THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> TODAY I THINK IT PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT TIMELINE.
>> DID WE TALK TO PETER ABOUT THIS?
>> I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY YET TIL YOU GUYS APPROVE IT.
YOU THINK I'VE BEEN WASTING ANYBODY'S TIME.
>> NOW, THAT IT COULD BE THAT WE WANT TO SET THAT OCTOBER DATE BACK A LITTLE BIT.
>> IT SAYS OCTOBER IS THE EARLIEST, CORRECT?
>> YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, AND YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH PETER, YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH THE PARK BOARD, GIDEON AS YOU PUT YOUR PLANS TOGETHER ON THAT.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT'D BE TWO [LAUGHTER] CLARIFICATION ITEMS. LET'S GO 3B PLEASE FOR NOW.
[3.B. Discussion Of An Ordinance Of The City Of Galveston, Texas, Creating A Planned Unit Development (PUD) Overlay Zoning District, In Order To Prohibit And/Or Restrict Residential Uses On Multiple Properties In The Subject Area. The Subject Area Is Generally Located On And Around The Former Municipal Incinerator Site (C. Gorman - 10 Min)]
>> CITY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS CREATING A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PUD OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT, IN ORDER TO PROHIBIT ANY OVERSTRETCH RESIDENTS HAVE COME UP WITH LOCAL BUILT PROPERTIES IN THE SUBJECT AREA.
THE SUBJECT AREA IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON AND AROUND THE FORMER MUNICIPAL SIDE.
>> THANK YOU. THIS IS CATHERINE, IS THAT RIGHT? CATHERINE, ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS START OR IS IT CONOR?
>> IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE TIM AND I DOING THIS.
>> I THINK WE HAVE SOMEONE ON THE SCREEN.
SOMEONE THAT'S ONLINE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REFER TO, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES. I BELIEVE IT'S DOUGH DARKER.
>> YES. GOOD MORNING. IT'S THE DOUGH DARKER CALLING IN FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS.
I WORKED FOR AKAM ENGINEERING.
IF YOU AND TIM WOULD COME UP GRAB A SEAT HERE.
>> HE WON'T MIND. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> PERSONALLY, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THIS.
IT'S VERY SIMPLE, BUT ALREADY.
>> ALL COUNCILS, SOME OF YOU WERE HERE WHEN THIS PROJECT STARTED, BUT JUST A BRIEF HISTORY.
WE HAD AN INCINERATOR THAT WAS DEMOLISHED.
THERE WAS A CONCRETE CAP PUT ON SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
CHEMICALS OF CONCERN WERE LOCATED IN VARIOUS ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE INCINERATOR.
BASED ON THOSE CHEMICALS OF CONCERN AND THE GRANT THAT WAS RECEIVED, REMEDIATION HAD TO OCCUR, THE LEVELS OF CONTAMINATION, AND DOUG WILL CLARIFY WHAT THOSE CHEMICALS WERE AT THE TIME.
BUT THE CITY INVESTED TIME AND EFFORT AND MONEY TO EITHER ACQUIRE CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
THOSE THAT THE CITY WAS NOT ABLE TO ACQUIRE, THERE WAS ONE IN PARTICULAR, THERE WILL BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF REMEDIATION DONE ON THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
THE TCQ REQUIRES THAT BECAUSE OF THE CHEMICALS OF CONCERN AND THE LEVELS OF THE CHEMICALS OF CONCERN, THAT IT ISN'T AT A RESIDENTIAL LEVEL.
THE AREA IS TO BE CLASSIFIED AS A COMMERCIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THIS PUD, WHICH IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AREA THAT WAS CREATED, ENVISIONS THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AROUND THE INCINERATOR AREA.
AGAIN, THIS HAS GONE ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING BRIEFLY TO THAT?
>> NO, EXCEPT THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME RECENT SHIFTS, I GUESS, BY A COUPLE OF PROPERTY OWNERS, WHICH WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THIS.
>> PART OF WHAT TCQ REQUIRED WAS, AGAIN, TO CREATE A COMMERCIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA.
WE CONTACTED ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE WERE AWARE OF.
AGAIN, SOME FOLKS SOLD THEIR PROPERTIES TO THE CITY, THOSE PROPERTIES WERE SUBSEQUENTLY DEMOLISHED, SOME DID NOT, BUT THEY WERE AND ARE WILLING TO COME INTO THE COMMERCIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
THIS PROJECT DID GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ALL NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE OWNERS IN AND AROUND THE ADJACENT AREA.
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AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WERE NOTIFIED BY TWO OWNERS.ONE, STILL CREEK, NOTIFIED US THAT IN THEIR STORAGE UNITS, THEY ACTUALLY HAD A RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT.
THE STORAGE UNITS WERE CREATED BACK IN THE '70S, I WANT TO SAY, AND THEY WERE CREATED WITH THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT IN PLACE.
IT WASN'T THAT ANYTHING WAS DONE UNLAWFUL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THE CITY JUST WASN'T AWARE OF IT.
IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS A STORAGE FACILITY, IT'S PREDOMINANTLY CONCRETED ANYWAY, EITHER CONCRETE OR GRAVEL ASPHALT, THE MANAGERIAL APARTMENT IS ABOVE THE AREA.
WE CONTACTED TCQ IN THAT SITUATION AND TCQ WAS OKAY WITH A CARVE-OUT WITH THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION.
THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ANOTHER OWNER CONTACTED US REGARDING THEY WERE ENVISIONING SELLING THEIR PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, CHEMICALS OF CONCERN WEREN'T LOCATED IN THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR PROPERTY, AND THEY ALSO WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF A CARVE-OUT.
WE ADDRESSED THAT WITH TCQ AS WELL.
TCQ WAS OKAY WITH THAT LITTLE BIT OF A CARVE-OUT BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ANY CHEMICALS OF CONCERN THAT WERE DISCOVERED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
WE ARE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE PUD ORDINANCE TO YOU WITH THOSE TWO PARTICULAR CARVE-OUTS.
I'LL HAVE DOUG SHAKO, WHO IS ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS FROM AECOM.
YOU MAY ALSO HEAR FROM BOB SCHAFFER.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF HE WAS ABLE TO ZOOM IN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
HE WILL BE AVAILABLE THIS AFTERNOON.
THEY ARE READY AND ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED WITH YOU.
UNLESS THERE ARE PARTICULAR QUESTIONS FOR TIM AND I, THEN I WILL HAVE DOUG SAY HIS COUPLE OF WORDS OR INFORM THE COUNCIL [OVERLAPPING].
>> LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, YOU COULD PUT RETAIL.
>> IN THE ORDINANCE, THERE'S SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE.
IN TERMS OF RETAIL, I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC.
>> OKAY. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT THAT.
>> IT SAID ALL THE THINGS IT PROHIBITED, BUT IT DIDN'T SAY WHAT.
>> THOSE ARE MOSTLY RESIDENTIALLY RELATED OR CLOSE TO.
>> GOOD. NOW, BUT FIRST BEFORE WE BRING THE CONSULTANT.
ANY QUESTIONS TO KIM OR COUNCIL? [NOISE].
>> ON THE CARVE-OUTS THERE, HOW WILL THAT BE HANDLED?
>> I'LL HIT THAT ONE. THE MEETS AND BOUNDS WILL NEED TO BE RECREATED FOR THE PUD BOUNDARY.
WE HAVE GOTTEN THE CONSULTANT.
IN THE ONE CASE, THERE WAS THE ONE LANDOWNER WHO WAS SELLING A PORTION OF PROPERTY TO AN ADJACENT OWNER WHICH WOULD CONTAIN AN EXPANSION HOTEL USE.
[NOISE]. HE ACTUALLY HAD THAT SURVEY.
WE HAVE A MEETS AND BOUNDS OF THAT SURVEY THAT WAS CONVEYED OVER TO THE CONSULTANTS AND THEY'RE PUTTING THAT IN THEIR MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION.
AS WELL THE SECOND PORTION OF THE PARCEL DIDN'T HAVE A FORMAL BOUNDARY, BUT WE SPLIT IT IN-BETWEEN SOME ADJACENT BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE STILL GOING TO OWN BOTH PIECES.
IT REALLY IS JUST FOR THIS PURPOSE ONLY THAT THAT'S BEING RECREATED.
WHEN THE MEETS AND BOUNDS IS FINISHED, WE WILL BE ADDING THAT INTO THIS ORDINANCE.
>> [NOISE] IT DOES REFLECT IN YOUR STAFF REPORT DOES REFLECT THE TWO AREAS WHERE THE CARVE-OUTS ARE.
>> WE HAD THE PREVIOUS MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION IN THERE BEFORE THESE REQUESTS CAME IN.
>> THAT WILL BE EXHIBIT A THAT WE'VE MODIFIED?
>> EXHIBIT A, I BELIEVE, IS THE ENTIRE STAFF REPORT, HONESTLY.
BUT THE MAP ITSELF IS GOING TO BE THE COLORFUL MAP WITH ALL THE TRIANGLES AND WHATNOT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH GOING TO BE THE SPECIFIC RENDATION [NOISE].
THE SURVEY ITSELF WILL HAVE THIS SPECIFIC MEETS AND BOUNDS, AND THAT CAN ALSO BE MODIFIED AFTER THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED.
>> OKAY. WHAT MECHANISM WITHIN THE LANGUAGE HERE OF THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN?
>> IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE PARTICULAR TWO AREAS, IT SAYS A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT AREA.
ONCE WE GET THESE SPECIFIC MEETS AND BOUNDS,
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WE WILL PUT IN THE NUMBERS, WHATEVER THE NUMBERS MAY BE, BUT IT MAY ACTUALLY STILL REMAIN A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TAKING THEIR PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.IT STILL REMAINS WITH THE OWNER.
>> COUNCILMAN COLLINS HAD HIS HANDS UP.
>> HE TOOK HIS HANDS IN [LAUGHTER].
>> ON PAGE 26, THERE'S A DRAFT DRAWING, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT SHOWS THAT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OFF LEONARD STREET.
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL PARCEL?
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
>> THAT OUT OF THE CONTAMINATED ZONE.
>> ONE WHERE THERE WAS BASICALLY A LIFE ESTATE FOR THE GIRL THAT WAS LIVING THERE.
BUT AT THAT TIME WHEN THIS WAS BEING NEGOTIATED, THEY SAID WE WANT TO BE CARVED OUT.
>> YEAH. THIS IS LIKE GIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE JAMES PROPERTY AND LIKE DONNA WAS SAYING EARLIER, THERE'S TWO CHEMICALS OF CONCERN LEAD AND BENZOPYRENE.
SO ON THE JAMES PROPERTY, I'M JUST GOING TO REMAIN A RESIDENCE.
AND SO THE CTQ, THEIR ACTION LEVEL, THAT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS THE THREE-YEAR-OLD AND THE SANDBOX SCENARIO, THE SOIL HAS TO BE CLEANED UP TO PROLAPSE.
I BELIEVE IT'S 400 PARTS PER MILLION.
HOWEVER, IF THAT WAS GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, YOU COULD HAVE CONCENTRATIONS UP TO 1,600 PARTS PER MILLION.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CLEAN IT UP TO RESIDENTIAL CONCENTRATION THAT'S WHERE THIS INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL KICKS IN.
THE ORDINANCE THAT THE AREA OF THE PIPE BOUNDARY IS GOING TO BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES, WHEREAS THE JAMES PROPERTY WILL BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL AND SHE WON'T BE SUBJECT TO THE ORDINANCE.
>> COUNSELMAN COLLINS JUST LEFT AGAIN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR STAFF ON THIS? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.
SIMPLE. SEEMS IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH.
>> WE'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR WHAT LIKE 14 YEARS.
>> IT'S NOT 14. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL AS THE LEAST 10 YEARS.
>> I DO WANT TO THANK ALL THE STAFF BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN SEVERAL YEARS IN THE MAKING, INCLUDING OUR CONSULTANTS WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
BUT IT WILL BE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY TO REMEDIATE THIS AREA FROM THOSE LEVELS.
I WAS HOPING COUNSELMAN COLLINS BECAUSE HE'S HAD HIS HAND UP WANTING TO ASK A QUESTION.
>> I CAN GO PULL HIM OUT OF THE BATHROOM.
IS IT OKAY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY JUST TO GET STARTED?
>> IS THAT OKAY? HOW WERE YOU ALERTED TO THIS LINE?
>> THIS WAS ORIGINALLY THE CITY'S INCINERATOR SITE BACK IN BYGONE DAYS.
THAT'S BACK WHEN WE INCINERATE OUR TRASH.
SO THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS DUMPED AND BURIED THERE ASH-WISE AND THINGS OVER THE YEARS THAT HAS LEFT THIS PROPERTY IN A CONTAMINATED STATE.
AFTER HURRICANE IKE, FUNDING BECAME AVAILABLE TO PROPERLY CLEAN UP OR ENCAPSULATE THIS PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME LEACHING OVER THE YEARS.
WE'VE UNDERTAKEN THAT AND THAT'S HOW WE BOUGHT OUT THE PROPERTIES.
THAT'S HOW WE'VE WORKED TO CLEAN THEM.
WE'VE ACTUALLY ENCAPSULATED THEM.
WE ACTUALLY USE THE TOP OF THE ENCAPSULATION FOR OTHER USES NOW MUNICIPAL USES.
IT'S BEEN A REAL GOOD THING FOR THAT WHOLE AREA.
>> LET ME ADD IN A LITTLE IRONY HERE.
IN THE CASE OF THE JAMES PROPERTY, THIS JAMES WHO WAS BORN ON THAT PROPERTY AND REFUSED TO SELL, CREATING A PROBATE NIGHTMARE.
HER HOUSE WAS REHABILITATED, ON THE POST-BIKE HOUSING PROGRAM.
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SHE HAD A BRAND NEW HOUSE THAT SHE ABSOLUTELY LOVED, HENCE HER RELUCTANCE TO SELL.>> EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS CONTAMINATION OF THE PROPERTY, MISS JAMES LIVED A VERY LONG PRODUCTIVE LIFE.
>> SHE HAS SINCE GOTTEN HER REWARD.
>> LEADING TO YET ANOTHER PROBATE NIGHTMARE WITH HER FAMILY.
>> DAVID, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION?
>> I JUST WANTED TO READ TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WERE DOING THIS AND I THINK BRIAN'S ADDRESSED THAT.
>> CONTAMINATION. I JUST ALSO WANT TO FIND OUT, CHEMICALS OF CONCERN IS A TERM OF ART I HAD NOT HEARD BEFORE, BUT I PROBABLY WILL USE THAT AGAIN.
>> IT'S A TC NEW TERM TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THEM.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU, TIM. THANK YOU, DONNA, FOR BEING SUCH ON A CLOUDY DAY.
>> CONSULTANTS WILL BE AVAILABLE THIS AFTERNOON AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'LL BE ONLINE [OVERLAPPING].
[3.C. Update And Discussion Of The Multi-Disciplinary Response Team Program ( Chief Balli - 10 Min )]
>> IN DISCUSSION OF THE MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM PROGRAM.
>> LET'S JUST SAY I'VE BEEN A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN HUGELY SUCCESSFUL FROM THE START HERE [OVERLAPPING] CHIEF BALLEY IS I THINK ON VACATION, ISN'T HE?
>> GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US A RUNDOWN ON THE STATUS OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM. IS THAT RIGHT, SIR?
>> YES. OUR MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM IS CALLED COAST.
WE USED THE ACRONYM COAST WHICH STANDS FOR COMPASSIONATE, OPEN ACCESS TO SERVICES [INAUDIBLE] IT OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED ON MARCH THE 13TH AND ON THE VERY FIRST DAY WE WERE ABLE TO HELP OUR MOST HIGH-VOLUME MENTAL HEALTH CONSUMER GET SOME TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH.
SHE HAS AGREED TO ATTEND PSYCHIATRIC APPOINTMENTS, WHICH HAS NEVER HAPPENED THROUGHOUT ALL THE CALLS THAT SHE HAS ACTUALLY MADE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ON MARCH 31ST, THE COAST TEAM ACTUALLY ASSIST THE C AND T TEAM THE PRICES NEGOTIATION TEAM WHAT THEY SUICIDAL SUBJECT ARMED WITH A KNIFE.
THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE HER ASSISTANCE, TALK HER OUT OF THE BATHROOM.
TO PUT THE KNIFE DOWN AND AGREED TO BE TRANSPORTED TO SOME TYPE OF PSYCHIATRIC CARE.
SHE ALSO ADMITTED THAT WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE FROM THE COAST TEAM, SHE WOULD HAVE CARRIED THROUGH WITH HER SUICIDAL.
I MONITOR THESE CALLS PRETTY CLOSELY AND I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF SUICIDE CALLS THAT TYPICALLY WERE HANDLED BY PD DIRECTLY NOW THEY ARE BEING HANDLED BY COAST IS ASTONISHING.
I NEVER REALIZED WHAT A HUGE PROBLEM THAT WAS.
WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO GALVESTON, I GUESS FOR THAT PURPOSE.
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ON TOP OF THIS AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE GOTTEN TO A POINT NOW WITH THE CALL CENTER OR WITH THIS DISPATCH WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY REQUESTING THE COAST TEAM.
I'VE SEEN THAT ON A COUPLE OF CALLS ALREADY, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING COAST.
THE BIG THING HERE IS THIS ONE, THIS TIES INTO ANOTHER DEAL ON OUR AGENDA.
A LOT OF OUR HOMELESS POPULATION HAVE DISTRESSFUL SITUATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, THEY'RE INTERFACING A LOT.
LIEUTENANT OCHOA BRIEFED US AT ON A MEETING THE OTHER DAY.
THEY'RE INTERACTING A LOT WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
INTERACTING WITH THEM IS A VERY LOOSE TERM BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THAT WE ARE TIED VERY CLOSELY IN WITH GULF COAST CENTER.
WE'RE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE INTO TREATMENT PROGRAMS WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET THEIR MEDICATION AND GET ON A ROUTINE REGIMENTED MEDICATION PROGRAM.
I CAN SPEAK TO THIS DIRECTLY BECAUSE I DID THIS FOR YEARS WHEN I WAS WITH UTMB AND DO THEIR ANTIGEN HEALTH CARE.
WE'RE VERY GOOD ABOUT ARRESTING SOMEBODY WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND GETTING THEM IN THE JAIL, GETTING THEM ON MEDICATION, AND GETTING THEM REGULATED, AND THEN WE THROW THEM OUT THE FRONT DOOR OF THE JAIL WITH NO PLAN FOR ANY MEDICATION OR ANY TREATMENT.
NOW THAT'S IMPROVED OVER THE YEARS.
BUT WITH COAST, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ACTUALLY, ONE, WE'RE STOPPING A LOT OF THE JAIL TIME,
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WHICH WASN'T DOING ANYBODY ANY GOOD, AND COSTING THE TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY, AND THE SECOND THING WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GETTING THEM INTERFACED WITH GULF COAST CENTER WHERE THEY HAVE A LONG-TERM WAY TO RECEIVE TREATMENT AND MEDICATIONS.I HATE TO SAY THIS, WE COULD PROBABLY AT THIS POINT USE A SECOND COAST UNIT, BUT LONG-TERM, COAST IS GOING TO WORK THEMSELVES OUT OF A JOB, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING SO KUDOS TO THIS.
WHEN THIS STARTED UNDER CHIEF HALE AND HE TOOK IT A GOOD DISTANCE, I'M NOT GOING TO LIE, I WAS TOLD THIS WAS A DANGEROUS CASE.
I WAS SCARED TO DEATH THAT THIS WAS GOING TO DIE WITHOUT CHIEF HALE RUNNING IT.
CHIEF BALLI PICKED IT UP, RAN WITH IT, HOT AND HEAVY, AND WITH THE HELP OF HIS TEAM, WE'VE GOT THE PROGRAM STOOD UP.
DON'T KNOW IF HE KNOWS THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE A FULL-TIME PARAMEDIC THAT RIDES WITH THE COAST TEAM, THAT'S PART OF THE TEAM, AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS AT GULF COAST CENTER
SO FAR WE'RE SEEING GOOD OUTCOMES.
WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY IF WE'RE SEEING ANY SAVINGS ON THE PD SIDE IN TERMS OF UNIT TIMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT I THINK WILL COME MORE WITH TIME AS WE GET MORE INTEND TO WITH UNITS.
WE HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR HOW THESE THINGS GO AND WE HAVE REPEAT CUSTOMERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE'LL HAVE A BETTER FIELD, WE CAN START REDUCING SOME PD TIMES.
I THINK WE HAVE A OVERALL KICKOFF THING AT THE FIRE STATION [OVERLAPPING] IN THE NEXT WEEK.
>> I'LL HAVE TO GO WITH NEXT THURSDAY.
>> I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
IT'S ASSISTANT CHIEF MITCHELL, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY'RE ALL CHIEFS. [LAUGHTER] BUT WE GOT MORE STARS ALL RUNNING AROUND HERE. [LAUGHTER]
>> I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON THE PROGRAM.
IT WAS A PERSONAL GOAL OF MINE WHEN I GOT ELECTED AS MAYOR TO SEE THIS THROUGH AND CHIEF HALE AND THEN CHIEF BALLI AND YOURSELF, ASSISTANT CHIEF MITCHELL HAS BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.
BRIAN, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INTEREST IN THIS. ONE QUICK QUESTION.
>> ANOTHER THANK YOU TO THE VAS BECAUSE THE VEHICLE THAT THE COAST TEAM IS RIDING IN WAS DONATED BY THE VAS.
>> BY ALL MEANS. FUNDING WISE BRIAN, WE WERE WORKING WITH THE MENTALS FOUNDATION ON THIS.
HOW MUCH FUNDING DO WE HAVE TO RUN THIS PROGRAM?
>> WE'VE GOT ENOUGH FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
>> HOWEVER, WE'RE SUPPLEMENTING IT IN PRETTY HEAVILY.
WE ESTIMATE THE CITIES COST IN THIS CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM $150,000-$300,000 A YEAR.
THAT'S WHY AT FIRST WE'RE LOOKING FOR STRATEGIC IMPACTS.
BUT LONG TERM WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO SEE IF THIS IS TRUE FORCE EXTENDER, OUR FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE THINK IT IS.
>>I THINK IT WILL BE AS WE HAD IN THAT AND GET MORE OBJECTIVE DATA.
>> JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HAD BUDGETED MONEY FOR THIS, BUT WE HAVE DONE IT IN VERY SMALL INCREMENTS.
I DID THAT INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW WHEN I'M COMING TO YOU TO ADD MONEY TO THIS PROGRAM, THAT SHOULD BE A TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO ASK ME QUESTIONS.
OKAY, WE'RE SPENDING THIS MUCH MORE MONEY, DO WE HAVE RESULTS? ARE WE GETTING THE BENEFITS THAT WE THOUGHT? ALL THOSE TYPE THINGS. VERY IMPORTANT FOR US.
THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T JUST SAY, OKAY, $300,000 AND FORGET ABOUT IT.
I'M BRINGING IT TO YOU IN SMALL.
WE'RE GOING TO EAT THIS ELEPHANT SMALL BITES.
>> JUST AS HE'S SPEAKING, THE CALLS EVEN THOUGH THE TEAM LAUNCHED PRETTY MUCH MID-MARCH, THEY HAD ANSWERED 49 CALLS.
EVEN THOUGH APRIL IS NOT COMPLETE, THE CALLS HAS GONE UP TO 57.
THE AMOUNT OF DIVERSION THAT HAS BEEN FROM THE POLICE OR THE COAST TEAM BEING ABLE TO DIVERT THE CONSUMERS FROM BEING ARRESTED OR CHARGED CRIMINALLY ARE IN SINGLE-DIGIT NUMBERS.
>> THAT IS GREAT TO HEAR. DAVID.
>> CHIEF, THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROGRAM.
THE COMMUNITY IS BEHIND YOU ON THIS, I GUARANTEE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW AS A FORCE MULTIPLIER IT WON'T REDUCE COST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE POLICE OFFICERS.
>> WE HAVE ONE POLICE OFFICER ALONG WITH THE TEAM, A POLICEMAN, A PARAMEDIC, AND A CLINICIAN.
>> I THINK YOU'LL SEE CONTINUED RESULTS.
I HOPE DOWN THE LINE, FEWER INTERACTIONS.
AS YOU GET MORE PEOPLE TO TREATMENT, THIS IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT FOR OUR HOMELESS PROBLEM THAT IS A LOT.
>> THE PROBLEM WITH OUR HOMELESS IS THAT THEY'RE ONLY SOLE SOURCES, THE SALVATION ARMY AND [OVERLAPPING] THAT IT IS INCREASING.
>> HOMELESSNESS AND MENTAL HEALTH, DRUG USE THEY GO HAND IN HAND SO THE IT'S A GREAT SCUFFLE.
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>> WE'RE GETTING AN INROAD IN AN AREA WE PREVIOUSLY DID NOT HAVE ONE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU SEEING THE PARENT CALL ANECDOTALLY, MY FREQUENT FLYER THAT WE HEAR FROM ON A REGULAR BASIS, THE COAST TEAM HAS DONE A GOOD JOB NOT HEARING FROM HER ANYMORE IN THE OFFICE.
>> MORE SO THAN THE PHONE CALLS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
MORE SO THAN ANYTHING, I HOPE WE'VE IMPROVED THAT PARTICULAR PERSON'S QUALITY OF LIFE AS A RESULT.
>> THAT'S WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
IT'S NOT ONLY IT PROVIDES MENTAL HEALTH AND FOLLOW-UP CARE, BUT IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT OUR INDIVIDUALS ON THE ISLAND SHOULD BE TREATED.
THOSE THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND SO FORTH NEED TO BE TREATED IN A MANNER THAT HELPS SUPPORT THEIR RECOVERY IF WE CAN. YES, MIKE.
>> THE WAY THEY'RE BEING TREATED IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TREATING OR HAVING CONTACT WITH THEM ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE ON MENTAL HEALTH.
WHEN AN OFFICER COMES UP TO SOMEBODY AND THAT'S A MENTAL HEALTH SITUATION IN THERE, IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TRAINED ON THAT, THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY JUST TAKE THE STANDARD PROCEDURES AND IT TURNS TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO TO JAIL, COMBATIVE, STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> THE TEAM, MORE LESS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE OFFERED 24/7.
>> RIGHT NOW IS LIMITED TIME, RIGHT NOW FROM 7:00-8:00 IS A REPEAT THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND THEN ON THE WEEKENDS IT'S 9:00-5:00 FOR THEM TO CATCH UP BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH PAPERWORK INVOLVED IN TRYING TO GET THE RATHER THE CONSUMERS SOME ASSISTANCE THAT THEY NEED.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, AS WE COME TO YOU GUYS, WE'LL LOOK AT EITHER FUNDING IT LOCALLY OR SEEKING THE OUTSIDE FUNDING FOR THAT AS WELL.
>> I WOULD THINK TOO THAT THESE ARE TRIAGED AT THE DISPATCH LEVEL, I ASSUME WHEN THEY GET THESE CALLS AND I'M SURE THE DISPATCHERS WILL BECOME MORE SPECIFIC ON HOW THEY CAN TRIAGE THESE INDIVIDUALLY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT IS DEFINITELY RECURRENT, BUT ALSO THE CONSUMER MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT THAT SERVICE IS AVAILABLE HERE.
EVEN THOUGH AN OFFICER MAY RESPOND TO THAT PARTICULAR CALL OF SERVICE, THEY CAN ALWAYS CALL THE COAST TEAM OUT AND THEY WOULD TAKE OVER FROM THERE.
>> THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. WELL, THANK YOU ASSISTANT CHIEF.
>> HE'S THE CHIEF AND NEVER SLEEPS.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> DON'T LEAVE YET BECAUSE I HAVE THE NEXT TOPIC.
>> YES. I'LL BE RIGHT THERE. [LAUGHTER]
>> PLUS YOU LOOK SO SHARP IN THAT UNIFORM.
>> I LIKE THE WAY IT LOOK. [LAUGHTER]
>> I LIKE THAT SHINY, GOOD FOR YOU.
[3.D. The Following Items Are For Discussion And Consideration To Allow Council To Give Staff Guidance Related To The Park Board Of Trustees. ( Brown/Bouvier ) 1. Discussion of Collection of Hotel Occupancy Tax and Related Management of Associated Software Programs ( Brown - 15 min ) 2. Discussion of the appointment of a Task Force for Developing a Master Plan for Stewart Beach Park( Bouvier/Brown - 15min )]
>> 3D, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION TO ALLOW COUNCIL IT GIVES TOUGH GUIDANCE RELATED TO THE PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES ONE, DISCUSSION OF COLLECTION OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX OF RELATED MANAGEMENT AND ASSOCIATED SOFTWARE PROGRAMS. TWO, DISCUSSION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF A TASKFORCE FOR DEVELOPING A MASTER PLAN FOR STEWART BEACH PARK.
>> TOPIC 1, THIS IS LEFTOVER FROM OUR LAST SPECIAL WORKSHOP MEETING THAT WE HAD.
I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
REALLY CENTERS AROUND THE COLLECTION OF THE TAX IN THE ASSOCIATED SOFTWARE THAT IS INVOLVED WITH THAT, AND TRACKING THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THROUGH THIS.
I MADE A STATEMENT ON OUR LAST SPECIAL WORKSHOP MEETING.
I THINK PARK BOARD DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.
I THINK FROM THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM, THEY'RE JUST GETTING UP AND RUNNING ON THAT.
PERSONALLY, I THINK WE OUGHT TO LET THAT CONTINUE [NOISE] WITH THE PARK BOARD AND LET THEM CONTINUE TO CUT THAT HOT AND TO MANAGE THE SOFTWARE ON THAT. DAVID.
>> I JUST WANT TO COUNT ONLY GET THE PERSONNEL ISSUES, BUT IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE IS ILLNESS THAT MAY HAVE IMPACTED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SOME OF THIS.
LET'S GIVE A LITTLE LEEWAY ON THIS BECAUSE I TRUST THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
BUT AS I SAY, THERE'S BEEN SOME BUILT IN SO THAT THEY'RE NOT.
I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MOVING FORWARD.
>> ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 2 COUNCILMAN BOUVIER.
THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY YOU. CAN YOU, SIR?
>> READING THIS ORDINANCE THAT'S COMING UP, IT SOUNDS LIKE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO PROCEED AHEAD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF STEWART BEACH.
WE DID HAVE SOME SUCCESS WITH THE TASKFORCE AT THE SEAWALL PARK, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE WERE MAKING HEADWAY OTHER
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THAN THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH WASTEWATER TREATMENT.BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TASKFORCE PUT TOGETHER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF STEWART BEACH THAN JUST THE CITY ALONE.
>> I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.
ALMOST A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO, THE MAYOR ASKED US TO STAND UP A TASKFORCE ON THIS TOPIC. WE DID.
IT WAS ME, JOHN PAUL, MARTY FLUID, JASON HARD CASTLE, RYAN, AND KELLY DESHAWN AND WE SPENT SIX MONTHS PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN.
SUBSEQUENTLY WE GOT AS FAR AS I THINK WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN ON THIS, AND WHEN JASON HARD CASTLE STOOD UP HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO AND SHOWED US THE PICTURES ON STEWART BEACH IN THE PLAN THERE, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SHOWING YOU WAS THE OUTPUT OF THAT TASKFORCE.
I HAVE TO SAY, I WONT TO START AN ARGUMENT HERE, BUT RIGHT AT THE LAST MINUTE, KELLY DESHAWN JUST REJECTED THE WHOLE THING OUT OF HAND AND SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE DISCIPLINED AND THAT'S WHERE IT CAME BACK TO US.
THERE'S NO POINT IN DOING A JOINT TASKFORCE IF ONLY ONE PLAYER WANTS TO PLAY.
I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'VE TOSSED THIS WITH MR. MAXWELL AT OUR LAST MEETING AND SAID DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN FOR STEWART BEACH.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN SPIN YOUR WHEELS ON THIS LEVEL, AND WE HAVE.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE STEWART BEACH PAVILION SINCE BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, FIVE-YEARS DEEP INTO THIS, AND THERE'S JUST NO POINT IN PRETENDING THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME KUMBAYA MOMENT ON THIS.
IT'S JUST SO CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE.
THIS IS A CITY PARK, CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
WE'VE TALKED MR. MAXWELL WAS COMING UP WITH A PLAN FOR THIS, LET'S STICK TO THAT.
>> WHY DID ONE PERSON OUT OF A TASKFORCE IMPLODE THE WHOLE THING, [OVERLAPPING] IT'S THE COUNCIL'S DECISION TO MAKE BUY.
WE'VE TOLD MR. MAXWELL WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO STOP PLAYING PUSSY FOOT WITH THE PARK BOARD, TRYING TO GET SOMEWHERE ON THIS.
I DON'T WANT TO POKE YOU, BUT THE HOTEL ISSUE [LAUGHTER] WAS STICKING POINT OVER HERE.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WANTED TO BUILD A HOTEL OUT THERE.
DON SAID WE CAN'T BUILD A HOTEL OR FOR LEGAL REASONS WHY WE CAN'T BUILD A HOTEL OUT THERE.
WE NEVER REACHED A CONSENSUS, BUT WE DID GET A PICTURE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT OUGHT TO GO OUT THERE.
I WORKED WITHIN THAT TASKFORCE THINKING FOR SURE WE HAD CONSENSUS BECAUSE NOBODY COMPLAINED WHEN WE PUT THIS ON THE BOARD.
THEN I BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL, PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, IT SEEMED TO BE WELL-RECEIVED.
IT WENT NOWHERE. MR. HARD CASTLE CAME BACK AND BROUGHT THIS TO US A FEW MONTHS AGO.
IT SEEMED TO BE FAIRLY WELL RECEIVED.
YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION YOURSELF. WHY DIDN'T IT GO ANYWHERE? BECAUSE PARK BOARD HAS TAKEN THOSE STEPS ON THIS BECAUSE A, WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD A HOTEL OVER THERE AND B, YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY OCCUPYING THIS DYING PAVILION SO THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT IMMEDIATELY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A PAVILION ON THE SAND.
NOBODY'S IN THERE, MAYBE ONE PERSON IN THE CITY OF THINGS WE OUGHT TO BUILD FOR THE NEW PAVILION ON THE SAND.
WE'VE SEEN THESE $27 MILLION MAUSOLEUMS OUT THERE.
I DON T THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING.
I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MONETIZE THE PARK.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BUILD A PARKING STRUCTURE AND INCORPORATE THE SERVICES INTO THAT PARKING STRUCTURE. YOU WANT TO MONETIZE IT.
>> IT'S UP AGAINST SEAWALL, THOUGH.
>> DEVELOPMENT OF A TASKFORCE IT HAS BECOME ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING, LET'S TAKE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS AND NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
WE TEST PLAN WAS COMING UP WITH THE PLAN FOR THIS, THAT'S WHERE WE ALL GO.
>> I DON'T THINK WE HAD GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT WE HAD, BRIAN.
THAT WAS NEVER OUR CONSENSUS THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO DEVELOP THIS.
THAT WAS JUST WRITTEN IN THIS ORDINANCE.
NOBODY VOTED ON THAT, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE HAD A GENERAL CONSENSUS.
>> I WOULD SAY THIS, IT'S ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, AND THIS IS WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS IT.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT, TO INVOLVE THE TRANSFERS BY ALL MEANS WE CAN ENTERTAIN THAT IDEA, BUT THEY ADMIT THAT THE ORDINANCE, AS IT IS WRITTEN TODAY, GIVES THAT DIRECTION TO BRIAN, WORKING WITH WHOMEVER HE FEELS IS APPROPRIATE TO COME BACK AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
>> WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE DID AS CITY COUNCIL GIVE THAT TASKFORCE PERMISSION TO DO RFQ, AND THERE ARE STILL TWO OUTSTANDING PROPOSALS FOR THAT,
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THAT WE'VE NEVER GIVE A DIRECTION ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THEM.>> THERE'S ONE NEITHER PERSON DIDN'T QUALIFY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GO TO THE MANDATORY MEETING.
BUT IT WAS THE SAME EXACT PROPOSALS THAT CAME IN THAT FIRST TIME TOWARDS THAT HOTEL.
>> BUT WE STILL HAVEN'T GIVEN DIRECTION ON THEM.
>> THOSE PROPOSALS THAT SOMETHING I KNOW BRIAN, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MASTER PLANS FORCED TO THE PAGE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BRIAN IS GOING TO LOOK INTO IT.
>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. ARE YOU NOT LOOKING AT WHAT WE INPUT WAS GIVEN THE TASKFORCE THAT WAS GIVEN THE STUFF THAT'S OUT THERE FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS?
>> IT'LL BE PROBABLY A MASHUP OF ALL OF IT.
>> I'D LIKE TO SERVE ON THE TASKFORCE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO BE ON TASKFORCE. [LAUGHTER]
>> I DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE TASKFORCE.
>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW WOULD THIS PROCESS WORK, AND WHY DO WE THINK THAT BY GIVING BRIAN THE CONTROL OVER BRINGING SOMETHING BACK IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST? I THINK YOU INTRODUCE GREAT WORK OUT THERE, BUT TELL ME HOW ARE WE GOING TO SUCCEED AT THIS?
>> IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE SPECIAL MEETING THAT WE NEED TO QUIT TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING DEFINITE COME TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN VOTE YAY OR NAY ON HOW WE PROCEED FORWARD.
THIS ORDINANCE THAT IS BEFORE US THIS AFTERNOON.
THIS RESOLUTION IS BEFORE US, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
IF COUNCIL SUPPORTS THAT, TO TELL BRIAN, WE WANT HIM TO REVIEW ALL THE PAST CONSULTANTS, WE WANT HIM TO VISIT WITH WHOMEVER AND BRING BACK A PLAN HERE.
WE'VE TELLING HIM WE WANT THAT STEWART BEACH PURVILLION DEMOLISHED AFTER OCTOBER IN THE RESOLUTIONS WERE TELLING HIM TO BRING THAT PLAN BACK.
WE'RE TELLING TO GET AN INTERIM PLAN FOR BEACH PATROL AND TO GET IN THE PLAN THAT HE WILL BE BRINGING BACK FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN OF THE PART THAT WILL BE AT THE BEGINNING OF '24 TO ALSO TELL US WHAT HE WANTS FOR A PERMANENT BEACH PATROL HEADQUARTERS.
WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THAT THIS AFTERNOON, IF WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND WE WANT TO HAVE SOME TASKFORCE OR SOMETHING, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD AS AMENDMENT.
>> IS THAT AN AMENDABLE RESOLUTION OR IF WE TAKE IT ALL OR NOTHING?
>> I CAN DO SOME AMENDMENTS ON THE PLAN.
>> IT'S WHATEVER YOU ARE ALWAYS ALL TO.
>> THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME THINGS IN THE RESOLUTION THAT I DON'T REALLY AGREE WITH AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT DONE DIFFERENTLY.
BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE GONE DOWN THIS PATH SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS.
COUNCIL HAS REALLY NEVER WEIGHED IN ON ANY OF THESE IDEAS AS A WHOLE ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE OUT THERE.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT I WOULDN'T SAY EVERY IDEA OUT THERE, BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT A LOT OF IDEAS FOR STEWART BEACH.
I'D LIKE TO SEE US GIVE BRIAN OR WHOEVER IS GOING TO DO THIS SOME DIRECTION BEFORE WE TELL BRIAN, GO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT AND BRING US BACK SOMETHING AND WE DON'T LIKE IT.
>> THAT SEEMS A PERFECT WAY TO DO IT, HONESTLY.
BECAUSE OF THIS WAITING FOR THIS KUMBAYA MOMENT.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THIS? I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS JUST FOREVER.
>> MY NAME IS BRIAN STEWART, I'LL TAKE ANY INPUT, YOU GUYS.
>> THAT'S FINE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ONE BIG OVERARCHING PLAN, 20 MILLIONS OR WHATEVER, WE SAY YES OR NO TO.
WE KNOW GENERALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO OUT THERE.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PARK CARS, PROVIDE PUBLIC AMENITIES.
BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE SPECIFICALLY? IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE INCREMENTAL.
I DON T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A DISNEYLAND PARK OUT THERE.
[LAUGHTER] BUT AGAIN, IT'S ON THE SAND SINCE IT CREATE IN HARM'S WAY.
>> IT'S NOT ABOUT DISNEY. BUT I THINK IT'S A PERFECT IDEA THAT THE CITY STAFF OFF TO SAY BRINGS A STRAW MAN AND WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE LIKE, WHAT DON'T LIKE.
BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS, LET'S GET 14 PEOPLE IN A ROOM AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE DOWN THERE.
THE TASKFORCE CAME UP WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A REASONABLY FUNCTIONAL PICTURE.
HARD CASTLE BROUGHT IT BACK TO US JUST A COUPLE OF THREE MONTHS AGO AND IT'S DOABLE,
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BUT JEFF DECIDE HOW TO DO IT AND WHAT TO FUND, WHAT GOES FIRST.YOU GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE PAVILION.
YOU GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH BEACH PATROL.
>> TWO THINGS THERE. I THINK IT'D PROBABLY BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO TAKE SOME SMALL BITES OUT OF THAT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] SAY IT AGAIN.
>> PAVILION BEING ONE OF THE SMALL BITES.
>> IT'S A EASY ISSUE TO DEAL WITH, IN MY OPINION.
BUT THERE IS STILL SOME CONFLICT HERE ON COUNCIL IN MY EYES, BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO MONETIZE STEWART BEACH.
>> I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> HE SAID THAT IT MAY NOT BE MONETIZED.
>> YEAH. I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU DID NOT WANT TO SEE STEWART BEACH MONETIZED.
>> I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD.
>> VAST CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL, AND I REVIEWED MY NOTES.
I KNOW BRIAN, HAS LOOKED AT IT AND JANELLE, EVEN WENT BACK AND LISTEN TO THE MEETING OF THE SPECIAL MEETING.
THE VAST CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL WE WANTED TO MONETIZE STEWART BEACH.
MY NOTES DIDN'T SHOW ANYBODY THAT DID NOT WANT TO DO THAT.
>> I WOULD LIKE SOME OF THOSE THINGS ON PAPER.
IF WE DO GIVE BRIAN THE TASK OF GOING OUT THERE AND FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO WITH STEWART BEACH, HE HAS SOME IDEAS WRITTEN ON PAPER, NOT DISCUSSED IN A WORKSHOP AND MAYBE SOMEONE HAD SAID THAT, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT.
BUT I'D LIKE A LITTLE MORE DEFINITION ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING HIM TO DO.
>> LET ME SAY THIS DAN AND BRIAN.
IF WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE, THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE BECAUSE YOU HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE TO BRING BACK A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR STEWART BEACH IN '24.
THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU BRINGING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL AND GETTING INPUT FROM US AS YOU WORK ON THAT.
>> IT'LL BE BUILT AND YOU'LL SEE IT.
>> ANYWAY WILLIAM, GO RIGHT AHEAD. I'M SORRY.
>> NO, WE HAD THE SAME QUESTION ON THIS.
>> YOU DON'T THINK YOU CAN HAVE A PLANET TILL '24 WHEN WE'VE ALL COME TO THE SEMI GENERAL CONSENSUS, PARKING LOT SOMEHOW INCLUDES THE JUNIOR LIFE GUARD OR THEY'LL BE A SECTION THAT MULTIPLE PARTS?
>> I PICKED THAT OUT BECAUSE WHEN I WAS WRITING THE RESOLUTION, SEQUENCING IT IN MY MIND, I FIGURED HEALING WITH BEACH PATROL AND THE PAVILION, THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY.
AFTER THAT, TURNING HIS ATTENTION TO THE OTHER AND YOU CAN'T DO THEM ALL AT ONCE PLUS FOR COMING INTO BUDGET TIME SO I JUST PICKED THAT UP.
>> I ENVISIONED BRINGING YOU GUYS SOME CONCEPTS THAT ARE JUST GENERAL WHAT AN ARCHITECT WOULD CALL PROGRAMMING TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THINGS AND WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE, GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON IT.
ONCE WE HOLD IN AS A COUNCIL AS TO WHAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT IN 60 DAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO BRING US THAT?
>> NOT 60 DAYS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE.
>> I KNOW, BUT THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO COME BACK FOR SEVEN MONTHS.
>> YEAH. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT UNTIL WE CAN HAVE RESOLUTION THE CURRENT PAVILION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I THINK THAT'S TANTAMOUNT TO GETTING THERE.
BUT WE CAN WORK ON THE [INAUDIBLE] AND I'VE ALREADY GOT DUDLEY WORKING ON SOME OF THAT STUFF, BUT IT'S JUST INCLUDED DEMOLITION COSTS.
>> I AGREE WITH JOHN, WE NEED TO HAVE INPUT TO THIS AND BRIAN WANTS OUR INPUT.
I DON'T THINK BRIAN WANTS TO GO DOWN THERE AND GET BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND THEN COME UP IN '24 AND SAYS THIS IS THE PLAN.
>> HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
>> WELL, I THINK '24 WOULD BE THE NOBLE GOAL OF HAVING SOMETHING FINAL THAT YOU GUYS CAN SAY, BRIAN, DEVELOP AN RFP TO GET THIS DONE.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS MANY TIMES NOW AND 2024 AND GET YOUR INPUT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.
>> THE BIGGEST CONCERN ITEM ONCE AGAIN, IS ESPECIALLY THE JUNIOR LIFEGUARD PROGRAM.
CAN WE ADDRESS THAT [OVERLAPPING] BY SEPTEMBER?
>> JUNIOR LIFE GUARD'S OVER BY SEPTEMBER.
>> I KNOW, BUT WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S ASKING? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M SPEAKING FOR YOU, BRIAN, BUT I AM.
BRIAN HASN'T REALLY STARTED HIS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I HATE TO SAY THIS, I DON'T WANT TO POKE THE BEAR.
IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS, I'M JUST LEAVING ALONE.
>> WELL, AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE ISSUES PROBABLY ARE REALLY ALMOST ALREADY RESOLVED.
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WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BEACH PATROL, I THINK PETER KNOWS OUR INTENTIONS.I HAVEN'T TALKED TO PETER ABOUT THIS BUT PETER KNOWS OUR INTENTIONS.
>> I THINK HE'S ALREADY THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WHEN THE PAVILION COMES DOWN IF THAT HAPPENS.
I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED WITH BEACH PATROL AND THE JUNIOR GUARD PROGRAM AT THIS POINT.
I THINK THAT IS A DECISION THAT COUNCIL HAS MADE PRETTY MUCH.
IT GETS VERY GOOD CONSENSUS HERE ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE ON THAT PAVILION.
LET'S TAKE THAT LITTLE PIECE AND LET'S EXECUTE IT.
I THINK A YEAR FROM NOW OR SEVEN MONTHS NOW IT'S TOO LONG FOR US TO START PLANNING SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WE WILL WELCOME HIM BUT FROM THE PARK BOARD TOO ON PLANNING OUT THERE AT THE PARK.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION, THEY HAVE MANY MASTER PLANS.
THEY COULD BE FEEDING INPUT OVER HERE TO THE CITY AS WELL TO GET THIS PROCESS ROLLING.
>> THE DEMOLITION OF THE PAVILION GOES HAND IN GLOVE WITH THE BEACH PATROL HEADQUARTERS BECAUSE THEY'RE UTILIZING THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE JUST CAN'T GO DOWN THERE AND DEMOLISH THE PAVILION AND NOW SAY BEACH PATROL YOU FIGURE IT OUT.
>> YOU'RE NOT CONSERVED [OVERLAPPING] BUT MY CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED SO THEREFORE, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE A PLAN ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I'VE HAD A MEETING WITH PETER ON THIS.
HE'S GOING TO BE VISITING WITH BRIAN.
I DIDN'T GET INTO ANY DECISIONS OR ANY THINGS LIKE THAT.
MY ROLE IS TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL, BUT HIS INTENTION IS TO GET WITH BRIAN, WORK WITH BRIAN IN ANYWAY, HE UNDERSTANDS AND HERE I'M SPEAKING FOR PETER NOW.
BUT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT COUNCIL HAS AN INTENTION OF POSSIBLY WANTING TO HAVE THOSE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE ON THE SAND, CONTINUE ON THE SAND THAT HAVE TO BE ON THE SAND, AND THE OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS AND SO FORTH ON THE DRY LAND UP THERE ON THE SEAWALL. HE UNDERSTANDS.
>> PART OF THIS PROCESS IS FOR ME TO BETTER UNDERSTAND JUNIOR GUARD.
HOW MANY KIDS, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES IT PRODUCE? IS IT'S A REVENUE GENERATOR OR IS IT A PUBLIC SERVICE? DO WE DO IT FOR FREE? THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THIS.
[OVERLAPPING] THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT.
>> YOU KEEP SAYING THIS IS GOT TO BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITIZENS STILL YOU CAN NOT ADDRESSED THAT.
>> BUT THAT'S WHY I NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS, DOES AND WHAT IT DOES FOR THE CITY.
>> I WOULD THINK TOO BRIAN, AS WE DISCUSSED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOUR PLANS FOR THE DEMOLISHING OF THE PAVILION AND THE BEACH PATROLS.
YOU'LL BE BRINGING THOSE BACK TO US FOR DISCUSSION HERE SO FORTH TO UPDATE US AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> CAN I FINISH WHAT I WAS SAYING?
>> LOOKING AT THE BEACH PATROL SIDE, WE COULD ALSO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PARK BOARD, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING QUARTERLY MEETINGS THEN THE BRICK VIEWPOINT COULD BE IN QUARTERLY MEETING, SO THAT THEY DO HAVE THEM [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE HAVE MIKE AND THEN SHARON.
>> THE ULTIMATE THING HERE IS THAT YOU GUYS JUST NEED TO PICK WHO YOU WANT.
IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR GENERAL CONSENSUS TO BRING EVERYTHING, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET ANYTHING.
I'M HAPPY TO GO OUT AND GATHER INFORMATION PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE.
THEY'RE GOING TO DISAGREE EVERYDAY AND THAT'S FINE.
IT'S ULTIMATELY YOUR DECISION.
BUT I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO PICK ONE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND BRING IT TO YOU.
I'M NOT HERE TO FIGHT WITH ANYBODY ABOUT THIS AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PREDISPOSED IDEAS ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO GO OUT THERE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE CLOSURE POINTS IN THIS THING AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE CLOSURE POINTS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP SITTING HERE CIRCLE LIKE A BUZZARD OVER A CARCASS.
>> WE'RE GOING NOWHERE AND WASTING TOO MUCH TIME AND OTHERS THINGS ARE FALLING OFF AT THE CITY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH BS GOING ON.
>> WASTING TIME RE-LEARNING, DOING THIS STUFF, WHY WOULD WE TURN THE BEACH PATROL TO THE CITY WHEN THE PARK BOARD KNOWS THE BEACH PATROL? THEY COULD ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU JUST ASK ABOUT JUNIOR LIFEGUARDS? THEY COULD ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT PETER'S WANTS AND NEEDS AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
WE'RE NOW SWITCHING GEARS AND SAYING, OKAY, BEACH PATROL, THAT YOU ARE MANAGED UNDER THE PARK BOARD, YOU'RE GOING TO NOW BE DECIDED BY THE CITY.
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>> THAT'S HOW I SEE SOME LANGUAGE IN THAT RESOLUTION.
THAT'S SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT I WOULD HAVE TO ADD [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] NOT GOING TO TAKE BEACH PATROL OUT OF THE PAVILION UNTILL YOU AGREE TO BUILD THEM A NEW PAVILION.
THAT'S BEEN CLEAR [OVERLAPPING]
>> ALL I ASK IS IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT TO DO, THAT'S FINE.
DON'T HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE TO A TIMELINE.
IF I CAN'T CONTROL THE TIMELINE DON'T HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TIMELINE.
>> I'M GLAD YOU TALKED WITH PETER, AND I THINK HE'S A CRITICAL, IMPORTANT PART IN HERE.
NOT ONLY DO THEY DO THE LIFEGUARD, BUT DON'T THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE THE WAVE WATCHERS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DO?
>> THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL TO BEING ON THE SAND, AND LIKE I SAID, THE SAND AND THEN ADMINISTRATION SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT I'M THINKING THAT SHOULD BE NUMBER 1, LOOKING FOR A PLACE WHERE THEY WOULD BE HOUSED RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE CAN TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN. SURE.
>> THAT SHOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH BRIAN AND THE EXPERTS AND PETER [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY SHOULD SIT DOWN WITH PETER AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU NEED PETER, SO WE CAN PROGRAM THIS.
>> WE'VE DONE THAT. PARK HAS DONE THAT MANY TIMES, AND THE ANSWER WAS, YOU SAW THAT LAST PROPOSAL, IT WAS 27,000 FEET UNDER ROOF.
THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD FOR $10 MILLION.
THAT'S BIGGER THAN THIS BUILDING. THAT'S BIGGER THAN THE FIRE STATION.
>> I MEANT THE TEMPORARY HOUSING.
>> I UNDERSTAND. BUT THERE'S NO TEMPORARY HOUSING ON THE SAND.
>> NO, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN DURING THE SUMMER SOMETHING THAT'S VIABLE.
>> SOMETHING TO HOUSE THE JUNIOR LIFEGUARD?
>> LIKE FOR INSTANCE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BRIAN [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AT PARK BOARD.
THE DECISION TO KEEP THEM IN THE PAVILION WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CHEAPER OPTION BECAUSE I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT, DID ANYBODY READ THE PAPER THIS MORNING? BEACH PATROL DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN A FIRE STATION WITH ALL THOSE PEDOPHILES.
DID YOU READ THE PAPER? WELL, YOU NEED TO GO READ THAT ARTICLE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME ASSERTIONS MADE, PRACTICALLY ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THIS.
I WAS GREATLY UPSET ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING.
DON'T TELL ME WE'RE COOPERATING ON THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COOPERATING ON THIS WITH PARK BOARD. THAT'S JUST CLEAR.
>> JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> COUNCIL, WE'VE TALKED THIS OUT OVER AND OVER.
IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEFORE US HERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN.
BRIAN'S GOING TO BRING US BACK UPDATES AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
HE'S THE CONDUIT FOR BRINGING US BACK PROPOSALS THAT WE THEN CAN EXPAND FROM OR CONSOLIDATE FROM.
HE'S GOING TO BE WORKING WITH PETER DAVIS AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT KNOW THAT PARK AND BRING US BACK PLANS.
WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET BRIAN, IN MY OPINION, WE GIVE HIM THAT CHARGE HAVE HIM BRING BACK.
HE'S GOING TO BRING BACK INFORMATION TO US AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO GET OUR INPUT.
WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A STANCE ON THIS AND MOVE FORWARD.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? YES, JOHN?
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES HERE OUTSIDE OF JUST THE MASTER PLAN OR A LOT OF DETAILS WITHIN THAT MASTER PLAN, I GUESS.
BUT WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED THIS RESOLUTION, AND I DIDN'T BRING MY NOTES ON THE RESOLUTION, BUT THERE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS IN THAT RESOLUTION, AND I'LL SPEAK MORE ABOUT IT IN THE MEETING THIS EVENING.
BUT I THINK WE ARE PUTTING TOO MANY ISSUES WITHIN THAT ONE ORDINANCE, AND I'LL JUST ADDRESS THAT TONIGHT.
>> VERY GOOD. WE'LL BRING BACK POSSIBLY SOME AMENDMENTS TO THAT, WHATEVER COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ASSERT INTO THAT, AND WE'LL JUST VOTE ON THAT AND SEE WHERE WE STAND.
VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER THINGS ON THIS LINE?
>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. ITEM 38, PLEASE. JANELLE?
[3.E. Discussion Of The Status And City Plans Related To Homelessness ( Brown/Maxwell - 20 Min )]
>> THIRTY EIGHT. DISCUSSION OF THE STATUS AND CITY PLANS RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHY MY NAME IS ANONYMOUS BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE THAT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
>> WELL, ON THIS AGENDA, I WAS.
[LAUGHTER] ANYWAY, BUT COUNCIL HAD GIVEN DIRECTION TO BRIAN AND I, TO COME BACK WITH PLANS CONCERNING THE HOMELESS SITUATION.
>> THIS IS WE'RE COMING BACK WITH THOSE PLANS.
THIS WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO.
[02:35:03]
WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THAT, WE HAVE SAT DOWN, WE'VE WORKED WITH A TASKFORCE COMPOSED AT THE GULF COAST CENTER, THE HOMELESS COALITION, UTMB, GPD, GALVESTON COCARE, AND THE PERMANENT ENDOWMENT FUND, WHO HAS A GENUINE INTEREST IN THIS.TO COME UP WITH APPROACHES THAT WOULD BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTS AND THE HOMELESS HERE ON THE ISLAND.
WE HAVE CONCENTRATED ON FOUR AREAS HERE, AND BRIAN'S GOING TO UPDATE YOU, I THINK, ON THE SPECIFICS ON THESE.
ONE IS ABOUT A SURVEY OF THE HOMELESS ON HOW THEY'VE GOT HERE AND SO FORTH.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, IN ORDER TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE HAVE A GROWING PROBLEM.
WE DON'T SEE A STEADY STREAM OF PEOPLE WITH SLEEPING BAGS WALKING ACROSS THE CAUSEWAY.
HOW IS THIS HAPPENING? ARE WE PRODUCING HOMELESS HERE ON THE ISLAND? OR ARE PEOPLE BEING DROPPED HERE? ARE THEY BEING BROUGHT HERE? ARE THEY BEING ARRESTED IN OTHER CITIES AND BROUGHT TO OUR JAIL, AND THEN RELEASED OUT OF THE FRONT DOOR OF THE JAIL WITH NO WAY TO GET BACK TO THEIR HOMES? ARE THEY BEING BROUGHT TO UTMB FOR TREATMENT AND THEN RELEASED FROM UTMB WITH NO WAY TO GET BACK TO WHERE THEY WANT TO BE? I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DATA POINT IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT.
WE'RE WORKING WITH GALVESTON COCARE, WHO IS BASICALLY AN OVERARCHING DEAL WITH A LOT OF THESE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES, AS WELL AS WITH MARSHA RAPPAPORT, WHO IS DOING A SECOND PIT COUNT TO TRY TO ASCERTAIN BECAUSE THIS IS A QUESTION THAT'S NEVER BEEN ASKED IN ANY OF THESE COUNTS.
HOW DID YOU GET HERE? THE SECOND QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO STAY HERE? WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AT THIS POINT.
I THINK ONCE WE HAVE THAT DATA, WE CAN START DEVELOPING PLANS AND ORDINANCES AROUND THAT.
WE CAN MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO JUST DOPE PEOPLE IN THE RANDALL'S PARKING LOT, NOT SAYING THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT ANECDOTALLY WE'VE HEARD SO.
WE CAN DEVELOP POLICY WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON RELEASING INMATES THAT WANT TO GO BACK TO THEIR HOMETOWN OR WHERE THEY WERE ARRESTED.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH UTMB TO MAKE SURE IF SOMEBODY IS BROUGHT HERE FOR TREATMENT AND JUST DROPPED AT THE EMERGENCY ROOM, THAT IF THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO HUNTSVILLE, WE'LL FIND A WAY TO GET THEM BACK TO HUNTSVILLE.
BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THIS DATA, STANDING UP PROGRAMS AND PASSING ORDINANCES IS A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE.
I THINK BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE.
I DON'T EVEN THINK WE HAVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF THE HOMELESS COUNT TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.
>> I CAN ASSURE YOU [INAUDIBLE] HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO INUNDATE MY DISTRICT.
IT'S MORE CRIMINAL HOMELESS PEOPLE.
WE COULD DO ORDINANCE RELATING TO PEOPLE LIVING ON THE BEACH, WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT DO.
I'LL GIVE YOU A FOR EXAMPLE, AND THIS HAPPENED TO BE IN PARTS BEACH WEST, A GENTLEMAN, WAS FUNNY BECAUSE IT WAS THE DAY I CALLED YOU.
I WAS DRIVING BACK TO MY HOUSE AND RIGHT ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE BEACHSIDE VILLAGE IS, THERE WAS A HOMELESS PERSON CAMPED ON 355.
ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THERE WAS A TENT, SO I CALLED BRIAN.
THEN ON MY WAY TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I GET A CALL.
THERE'S A HOMELESS MAN LIVING ON THE BEACH.
WELL, IT TURNED OUT HE HAD ACTUALLY BEEN LIVING ON THE BEACH FOR ABOUT A WEEK AND ACCUMULATING STUFF.
THAT MEANS HE WAS PROBABLY DEALING WITH THEFT AS WELL.
DID TURN OUT, SO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS FINALLY CALLED THE POLICE BEFORE I CALLED [NOISE] BRIAN AND HE CALLED THE POLICE.
THE MAN HAD BEEN ARRESTED AT AROUND 9:30 BECAUSE HE HAD A WARRANT AGAINST HIM FOR NOT REGISTERING AS A SEX OFFENDER IN HARRIS COUNTY SO HE WAS BROUGHT TO GALVESTON.
BUT A GREAT PERSON TO HAVE ON OUR PAGE WHERE THERE ARE YOUNG CHILDREN AND WHATNOT, AND THE PERSON WHO HAD BEEN LIVING THERE FOR A WEEK.
THERE ARE PEOPLE BREAKING INTO SECOND HOMES AND DESTROYING THEM.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS COUNTING THE HOMELESS THAT HAVE MOVED WEST.
WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, I'M TELLING YOU IT ISN'T WORKING AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM JUST LIVING ON THE BEACH BECAUSE THAT IS HAPPENING.
THEN THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE BECAUSE
[02:40:03]
PEOPLE ARE GOING MORE AND MORE TO CAMERAS AND PEOPLE ARE SEEN GOING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, CHECKING CARDS, AND WHATNOT.IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION AND THIS TIES IN BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE HOMELESS, AS IN THAT ONE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS ARRESTED, HE WAS ACCUMULATING STUFF EVERY DAY.
I ASSURE YOU HE PROBABLY WASN'T CHOPPING AT THAT HARD TOWER GENERAL THAT I WILL NEVER STEP INTO.
BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE SEEN WANDERING THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRYING TO BREAK INTO CARS, THE WAY OUR SYSTEM WORKS IS THAT DOES NOT GO DOWN AS ATTEMPTED BURGLARY BECAUSE WE HAVE NO PROOF THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE STOLEN SOMETHING.
THAT'S A FALL ON OUR SYSTEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REPORT IS FILED, BUT AN ATTEMPTED BURGLARY.
EVEN IN THIS CASE, IT WAS 10 DIFFERENT HOUSES, TWO DIFFERENT GUYS ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
IT DOES NOT GO DOWN AS AN ATTEMPTED BURGLARY.
I THINK THAT'S A FALL IN OUR SYSTEM THAT WE COULD CORRECT.
THAT IS TYING INTO THESE ALL WRONG MISTAKES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'LL BE A STATE CHARGE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN CHANGE SOMETHING WHICH IS A STATE CHARGE.
>> NOW IT'S A CITY THING, IT'S THE WAY OUR SYSTEM WORKS.
>> FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE SAYING THIS [OVERLAPPING]
>> EXCUSE ME. ASSISTANT CHIEF MITCHELL, COME ON FORWARD IF YOU WOULD SIR.
>> FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE SAYING THIS WAS AT A HOUSE?
>> [OVERLAPPING] BUT THEY'RE CHECKING THE CARS.
>> THEY'RE SAYING IF YOU GO UP TO A CAR AND PULL A DOOR HANDLE, SHE WANTS HIM TO BE CHARGED WITH ATTEMPTED BURGLARY.
NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A CITY ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THAT.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A COOLING TRESPASSING.
>> I'M SAYING THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ORDINANCE FOR US TO HAVE ON OUR NEXT AGENDA.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IF PEOPLE ARE SEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT GOING FROM CAR TO CAR, BREAKING IN.
THEY MAY HAVE EVEN GOTTEN INTO SOME WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE CAMERAS.
WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE MOVING WEST ORDINANCE THAT SHOULD BE AN ATTEMPTED BURGLARY.
THEY OBVIOUSLY WERE MOBILE DETAILERS.
>> THEY HAVE TO BE PROVE INTENT.
THE DA WOULD BE DISMISSING A LOT OF OUR CHARGES IF WE TRY TO GO THAT ROUTE.
WE HAVE AGAIN TO PROVE INTENT THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY GOING INTO CITIES [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] WERE CAUGHT IN MULTIPLE HOUSES TRYING TO BREAK INTO EITHER DOOR DOORS OR CAR DOORS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE INTENT.
>> WE CAN ACTUALLY DETAIN THEM AND QUESTION THEM, BUT TO ACTUALLY CHARGE THEM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT DA WILL ACCEPT CHARGES.
>> BUT WE DON'T EVEN FILE ON NR SYSTEM AN ATTEMPTED BURGLARY.
>> UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING PHYSICALLY SEEN BEING STOLEN, IT JUST GOES AS A REPORT ABOUT A POSSIBLE BURGLARY.
>> LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE INTENT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] TO TRY TO PROVE INTENT, JUST SOMEONE PULLING THE DOOR HANDLE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CRIMINAL HISTORY, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IS-
>> WELL, THE PEOPLE WEREN'T CAUGHT.
[BACKGROUND] BUT TO ME THAT REPORT SHOULD SAY ATTEMPTED BURGLARY.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND I THINK HOMELESS PEOPLE SHOULD GET PROPER CARE AND WHATNOT.
THERE DEFINITELY IS A MENT, OR DRUGS AND WHATNOT RELATED.
BUT I THINK WE'RE ALSO MAKING IT EASY.
WE'RE MAKING IT EASY FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE TO COME HERE.
BECAUSE CHANCES ARE THAT GUY WHO DIDN'T REGISTER WAS OUT ON A WARRANT AND GOT ARRESTED, HE COULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL AND DUMPED HERE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T LET SOMEBODY GO WITH A WARRANT.
IF HE WAS BROUGHT HERE AND HE HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL FIRST, HE STILL WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE JAIL AND HE WOULD EMBED THAT OUT.
>> THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM JAIL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A WARRANT FOR FURTHER ARREST?
>> BECAUSE SOME AGENCIES DO NOT PUT THEIR WARRANTS IN IN A TIMELY MANNER.
>> I DID NOT SAY [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T KNOW HOW HE GOT HERE, BUT I THINK PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MAKING IT EASY FOR HOMELESS TO COME HERE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF ANECDOTAL INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT SAYS THEY'RE DROPPING DOWN IN VANS AND THEY'RE DOING THIS.
FROM WHAT WE CAN FIND OUT ANECDOTALLY OR INFORMALLY AND WORKING THROUGH SYSTEMS THAT'S NOT HAPPENING AS MUCH AS WE THINK IT IS.
[02:45:01]
>> I AGREE, I THINK PEOPLE ARE PURPOSELY COMING HERE BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO BE HOMELESS.
>> ON THE BEACH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ASSISTANT CHIEF, THERE ARE RULES THAT GOVERN THAT ALREADY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO CAMPING ON THE BEACH.
>> YOU CAN'T CAMP ON THE BEACH.
>> IT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE IT'S NOT SO MUCH AN ORDINANCE ISSUE.
>> WELL, IT'S HAPPENING, AND A LOT OF ROBBERY ISSUES AND WHATNOT DEFINITELY ARE RELATED TO PEOPLE COMING FROM THE BEACH.
>> BUT BACK TO THE SURVEY THAT BRIAN HAS MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH COCARE. THEY'RE DOING IT.
>> ARE THEY GOING TO COVER THE WHOLE ISLAND?
>> THEY'RE ASKING US TO PAY FOR IT.
I'LL CHECK BECAUSE I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO MECHANISM TO GIVE THEM MONEY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, THEY MENTIONED IN OUR LAST MEETING THEY WOULD COVER ALL THE COSTS.
>> HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM SINCE?
>> WELL, IT'S THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF THOSE MEETINGS.
>> THEY'RE ALSO WANTING US TO PAY FOR THE SURVEY AND THEY'RE WANTING US TO PROVIDE POSSIBLY A MEAL TO TRY TO LURE THEM INTO [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE TEAM CONTACTED YOU ON THAT, BARBARA?
>> AS LIEUTENANT OCHOA AND I SAT IN ON THE MEETING ON MONDAY FOR THE TASK FORCE.
THEY SAID THAT YOU HAD RECOMMENDED HER AND I JUST SIT IN ON THIS TASK FORCE.
LIEUTENANT OCHOA WAS VERY GREAT ALSO.
BUT IN ORDER TO DRAW THE HOMELESS IN TO GET THE INFORMATION, MY CONCERN IS I'M AFRAID WE NEED TO DO IT IN MORE THAN JUST ONE PLACE.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE HAVING ISSUES OUT ON THE EAST AND THE WESTERN OR CENTRALLY LOCATED, I DON'T KNOW, CHIEF, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I JUST THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE NEED TO SET UP SOME STATIONS AND MAYBE IT'S THE FIRE STATIONS WE SET UP AT AND TRY TO FILL OUT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THEM IN INSTANCES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME INTO A PLACE REALLY.
>> WELL, SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK OF A FIRE STATION AS A SAFE LOCATION.
>> NO LIFEGUARDS. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
[LAUGHTER] I FEEL SAFE AT A FIRE STATION AND POLICE STATION. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PROVIDE A FOOD BANK.
THEY PROVIDE FOR A LOT OF THE HOMELESS AS WELL.
THEY COLLECT INFORMATION FROM THEM AND GIVE THEM TRANSIENT BAGS.
THEY DON'T GET ALL THE FOOD LIKE A HOUSEHOLD WOULD GET BUT THEY WILL GET THINGS THAT COULD SUSTAIN THEM.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WELL, I THINK THEY CAN WANT TO LOOK AT, DO WE GIVE THEM SOME TYPE OF INFORMATION AND SUPPLIES BECAUSE OF BEING HURRICANE SEASON.
>> SOMEBODY BETWEEN A 12-MILE ROAD IN A 13-MILE ROAD IS NOT GOING TO SALVATION ARMY.
>> THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING IS WORKING WITH THE GULF COAST CENTER.
WE HAVEN'T WORKED OUT THE PLAN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION.
THAT IS A MUCH MORE COMPLEX ISSUE THAN IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN PUT THEM IN A CAR AND DRIVE THEM BACK THERE TO TEXAS CITY.
YOU JUST CAN'T DROP THEM OFF ON THE STREET.
YOU GOT TO HAVE A PARTICULAR PLACE TO TAKE THEM.
IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GO, WE CANNOT TAKE THEM, AND IF YOU DO TRANSPORT THEM, IT'S NOT JUST HAVING A DRIVER, PUT THEM IN THE BACKSEAT OF A CAR, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER IN THAT VEHICLE BECAUSE THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE SOMEWHAT VOLATILE.
>> WELL, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, MAYOR, DURING THE WARMING CENTER, WE HAD SEVERAL FOLKS THAT HAD BEEN STRANDED DOWN HERE.
THEY WERE ALL HOMELESS THAT WERE IN THE WARMING CENTER LET'S SAY FOR THE TWO DAYS WE HAD IT OPEN AND MOST OF THEM WANTED TO RIDE EITHER BACK TO DICKINSON, TEXAS CITY, HOUSTON SOME AS FAR AS AUSTIN.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WAY TO HELP THEM OUT.
>> WELL, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE GULF COAST CENTER ON THAT.
THEY'VE ALREADY INFORMALLY SAID THEY COULD WORK WITH US TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION, BUT WE NEED TO WORK OUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> HOW DO CITIES FIND A WAY TO GET THEM TO OUR WARMING CENTER?
>> ACTUALLY TWO INDIVIDUALS, THE CITY MARSHAL POPE HE DID TAKE THEM BACK TO THE SALVATION ARMY BECAUSE ONE GENTLEMAN COULDN'T EVEN HARDLY WALK.
WE GOT HIM AND A LADY THAT WAS HAVING [OVERLAPPING] SOME ISSUES.
>> WE DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, LIKE THE WARMING CENTERS AND THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT WE END UP SOMETIMES INVITE.
I WENT TO THE WARMING CENTER AND I'M NOW HEARING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WERE FROM UP THE ISLAND.
>> NOT FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEM. [OVERLAPPING].
>> NOT THE MAJORITY OF THEM BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF
[02:50:03]
HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT STAYED AND THEY WERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL RESIDENTS OR JUST HOMELESS FOLKS AT GALVESTON.>> BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THEM [OVERLAPPING].
>> MOST OF THEM THAT I'M RUNNING TO WHATEVER, THEY ARE FROM HERE AND I DON'T KNOW [OVERLAPPING].
>> SO WE HAD SEVERAL THAT WERE NOT FROM HERE.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST ASKING WHAT THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WOULD SAY PROBABLY A GOOD 30% OF THEM [OVERLAPPING] THEY ARE NOT FROM HERE.
THEY WOUND UP HERE IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
EITHER THEY HAD GONE TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY WERE RELEASED.
>> THEY SHARED THAT INFORMATION?
>> I JUST KNOW [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THEM I KNEW THEIR FACE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, TWO OF THEM I TAUGHT AS STUDENTS THAT I SAW IN THERE.
[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] SOME WERE VERY TALKATIVE TO MY STAFF.
>> JOHN YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I WAS OH, SORRY. EXCUSE.
>> THERE ARE SOME RESOURCES THAT ALREADY GIVE FOOD OUT AND IT'S NOT A FOOD BANK.
THERE'S A HOBO BREAKFAST THAT IS AT THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS.
THERE'S A PLAYGROUND RIGHT BEHIND THERE ON SATURDAY AND THEN IF YOU MOVE DOWN.
>> THERE'S OUR DAILY BREAD ON WINNING.
>> THERE'S SEVERAL SITES AND IT'S NOT JUST IN ONE LOCATION, THEY'RE ALL WHITE CATIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO THERE AND SET UP A TABLE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION ALONG WITH AN APPLE OR BANANA OR WHATEVER, THESE PEOPLE WILL COME UP AND SOME OF THEM WILL TALK TO YOU.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THEM, SO I KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE QUITE A BIT.
AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE YOU, INSTEAD OF SPENDING THE RESOURCES OF TRYING TO LURE. NOT LURE.
THAT'S NOT GOOD. TRYING TO PROVIDE FOOD FOR THE HOMELESS MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A BETTER HELP.
>> YOU'LL KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS THEY'RE GOING TO WALK PLACES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THEIR CARS.
CALLS ON THAT IRREGULARLY, ON THE SEESAW OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THERE.
THEY LIVE IN THEIR CARS A LOT OF THEM.
>> INCREASING NUMBERS OF CARS ON A SEAWALL IN THE MORNING.
>> KEITH MITCHELL WILL TELL YOU HE GETS CONSTANT CALL FOR ME, HEY, HOW ARE THEY MISSING THIS? THERE'S A PROLIFERATION OF OLD MOTOR HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> BECAUSE BEING HOMELESS SITUATION LIKE HOPEFULLY NOT ALWAYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT, BUT I'VE NEVER WANT TO JUDGE OR I LOOK AT PEOPLE THAT ARE RUN BY IN THE MORNING AND THEIR VEHICLES, BUT THEY REALLY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE HARD ON THEIR LIFE.
THEY GOT ALL THEIR STUFF IN THEIR BELONGINGS AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S THERE ONLY OPTION.
>> UNFORTUNATELY THE ONES THAT ARE LIVE LIVE IN NORTH DAKOTA, SEAWALL.
THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF THE ORDINANCES.
SO THEY MOVE AND THEY MOVE RIGHT BACK.
>> YOU'LL SEE A PRETTY GOOD RUN TO THE WALMART PARKING LOT AT 2:00 OR 3:00 A.M. AND THEN THEY'RE BACK ON THE SEAWALL.
>> THEY KNOW THE TIMES. SO THEY JUST MOVE AND THEN COME RIGHT BACK AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY NEVER MOVE BECAUSE THEY LIKE THAT ONE SPOT.
EVERY TIME THEY GET BACK TO THAT ONE SPOT.
>> THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING ON THE BEACHES.
MARINE MENTIONED THOUGH, THERE'S NO DOUBT AND I'M CALLING CONSTANTLY ABOUT UNDERNEATH MURDOCH'S.
THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO CAMP OUT THERE.
>> THERE WAS ONE TIME WHEN I SPOKE TO EVERY MORNING, HE WAS LIVING IN A LIFEGUARD, STAN?
>> THEY DEFEAT PATROL RUNS THAT EVERY DAY.
YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO GET OUT THERE AND THEY'RE VERY POLITE ABOUT IT.
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THEY KNOW BY NAME BECAUSE THEY KNOW ABOUT FIRST-NAME BASIS.
SAME BIKE OR DRIVE. THAT'S A CAMPGROUND.
>> JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE IN THE FUTURE HERE WITH YOU HANDLE THIS.
IS THERE MONEY CONCERNS OR DOLLAR FIGURE THAT WE DON'T THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS.
>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A MATTER OF ONCE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WE CAN BETTER TARGET OUR ORDINANCES.
>> BUT TO TO GET THAT YOU NEED THE DATA.
AND YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT MAYBE THAT DATA MIGHT COST US A MONEY.
>> I JUST HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY TOLD US.
>> FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THIS BECAUSE WHEN WE MET WITH THEM, THEY SAID THEY HAD $7,500.
>> WE BROUGHT YOUR PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATIONS TO THE TABLE AS PART OF THIS.
SO WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT, I DON'T THINK I CAN BUY MEALS FOR PEOPLE.
>> I THINK MICE GOT SOME GOOD IDEAS THERE WITH USING SOME OF THE RESOURCES.
THE ONLY ISLAND THAT ALREADY ARE PROVIDE THIS AND THE TIMELINE FOR THIS.
>> I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS THEY DO A PIG COUNT AND THEY GIVE THEMSELVES 24 HOURS TO DO THIS PIT COUNT.
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I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FILTER OUT DUPLICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.IT'S GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS IF WE CAN STEM THE TIDE OF HOW THEY'RE GETTING HERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HELP, THEN WE CAN START ADDRESSING THE POPULATION THAT IS HERE, THOSE THAT ARE FROM HERE, THAT DESIRE TO BE HERE, WE CAN START CHANNELING THEM TO AN AREA WHERE WE CAN MAYBE HELP WITH THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM, THEIR PARTICULAR HOMELESS PROBLEM.
AND THEN THOSE THAT ARE HERE THAT DON'T WANT TO BE HERE, WE CAN HELP THEM GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
I THINK IT'S A MULTISTEP PROGRAM AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO TAKE 12 TO 18 MONTHS TO GET IT COMPLETED AND ACTED.
>> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COVER THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM EITHER.
YOU HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WHERE THERE'S HUGE CAMPS [OVERLAPPING].
>> CAN WE HAVE LIKE A OUTLINE ON WHAT YOU THINK THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
>> WE NEED TO GET GALVESTON COKE CARRIERS INPUTS [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEY MIGHT RUN THE PROGRAM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S OUR DATA.
WE NEED TO OUTLINE THAT PROGRAM.
WE NEED TO SET SOME GOALS HERE AGAIN.
>> I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANTED TO GET INVOLVED WANTED ASSURANCES THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO RUN THE HOMELESS PEOPLE OFF.
>> TAKE THEM OUT OF THE PROGRAM OR SOMETHING I MEAN.
YOU ARE AT WELL, THEY THEY REPRESENT A LOT OF THEM.
>> JOHN WITH THE OUTLINE TO US AT OUR LAST MEETING IS THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THE SURVEY TOGETHER, THEY'RE GOING TO WORK WITH GPD AND THEY WERE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED THAT WE WANT ANSWERED.
THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THAT SURVEY IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECTLY THIS JUNE.
AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR DATA BACK.
UT&B IS WORKING WITH IS FOR THE CORE CORRELATION OF THAT DATA AND SO FORTH.
AND SO THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT, BRIAN, AROUND JULY, THEY WOULD HAVE ALL THE DETAILS.
>> AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER BITE AT IT BECAUSE WE ALSO KNOW WE HAVE A SURGING SUMMER POPULATION IN THIS GROUP AND THEN THERE'S A DIFFERENT GROUP IN THE WINTER.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE WHAT DATA WE HAVEN'T TRIED TO IMPLEMENT ORDINANCES.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOUR ARTIST IS NEED TO BE VERY WELL TARGETED OR ELSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT.
>> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAYOR, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE LEAVING A LOT OF THIS UP TO THEM.
AND THINGS DON'T SEEM TO GET DONE WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
>> THIS GROUP REPRESENTS 40 SOMETHING NON-PROFITS.
SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'RE BRINGING IN, WE NEED VOLUNTEERS, WE NEED ALL TYPES OF THINGS TO CONDUCT THE SURVEY.
THEY WERE GOING TO HANDLE ALL THE LOGISTICS FOR US.
AND WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THEM THE QUESTIONS AND WORK WITH THEM ON THE QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE SUPPORT IN SOME WAY.
>> NOTICE THAT BOTH THE HOMELESS AND THERE'S A WORD THEY USE IT I'M MISSING NOW IN MY MIND.
IT'S WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE SURVEYS.
>> IF THEY DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
>> HAVING THE GOVERNMENT ADMINISTER THE SURVEYS WAS GOING TO BE A CONCERN.
>> AND THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT I'M SAYING HERE, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A QUESTION HERE AND SOME CONFUSION ON FUNDING THIS PROGRAM.
>> AND SO I DON'T WANT TO WAIT TILL JUNE OR JULY AND THEN THEY COME BACK TO US AND GO, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY.
>> WE'RE HAVING REGULAR MEETINGS.
>> WE'RE HAVING REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THEM AND I'LL FIND OUT TODAY WHAT'S GOING ON.
THAT'S THE FIRST I HEARD BECAUSE WHEN WE LEFT THAT MEETING, THEY HAD THE FUNDING IN PLACE.
>> THIS CAME UP AT THE TASKFORCE MEETING MONDAY.
>> BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM PIECE THAT ADDRESSES THE CRIMINAL SIDE OF THINGS.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN MARCIA CAME IN TO TELL US WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING IN OUR DISTRICTS, SHE HAD NO IDEA.
SHE SAID, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GOING ON, SO MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING AT OUR NEXT WORKSHOP, HAVE THAT TASK FORCE HERE SO WE CAN MAKE THEM AWARE FROM I HAVE HOTELIERS THAT THEIR STAFF HAVE KNIVES PUT ON THEM.
>> BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THE COALITION WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
THAT'S A CRIMINAL ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE CHIEF.
>> BUT IT'S IN PART OF THE COALITION YOU SAID REPEATING.
>> IT'S JUST OFFICER ARE CHOSEN.
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>> AND THAT'S BECAUSE SHE'S PART OF THE COURSE PROGRAM.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO INVOLVE THEM BECAUSE OF THE COURSE PROGRAM, NOT NECESSARILY FOR HER.
>> BUT SHE HAD NO IDEA HOW ISLAND WIDE IT WAS.
SHE WAS A SURPRISED. MARSHALL.
>> I THINK THEY PROBABLY KNOWS EXACTLY HOW WIDESPREAD THIS IS.
THE TREMONT HAS HAD TO BEEF UP SECURITY FOR BOTH IN FRONT AND BEHIND THE BUILDING YOU'D THINK IT WAS JUST IN THE ALLEY, BUT IT'S PEOPLE WALKING IN THE FRONT DOOR.
>> OH, WALKING IN THE FRONT DOOR.
>> WALKING BY THE FRONT DOOR. YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S AN ISSUE, IT'S A LARGE ISSUE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING OR FUNDING TO TAKE THIS WHOLE THING ON.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEPEND ON THE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS, THE NON-PROFITS TO DO THIS.
WE CAN PUT ALL THE ORGANIZATION WE WANT AROUND, BUT YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THESE FOLKS.
>> BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MAKING IT EASIER FOR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, I GUESS I'M WORRIED, BUT WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING IS ALWAYS ON THE TABLE WITH US AND THAT'S FUNDING.
WHERE'S THE MONEY TO DO THIS COMING FROM? IF THEY'RE SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET IT?
>> WE HAVE SOME CDBG FUNDING WE CAN THROW TOWARDS IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MAYBE THROUGH GRANTS, WE COULD GO OUT AND LOOK FOR THEM. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THIS DECISIONS YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE IS WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THESE FOLKS AND WE'RE GOING TO NOTICE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO THEM? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME PRETTY TASK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> EVERYBODY HAPPY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
>> WELL, I HAVE PEOPLE SAY, WELL, DO WHAT CORONADO, CALIFORNIA DOES, WHICH HAS SHOVED THEM ACROSS THE LINE.
LITERALLY TRANSPORTABLE ACROSS LINE AND DROP IN SAN DIEGO.
I DON'T KNOW THAT SAN DIEGO'S MORE RESOURCES TO DEAL WITH IT.
THEY SAY, WELL, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BE HOMELESS ESSENTIALLY IN CORONADO. THAT'S NICE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF JUST SHOVING PEOPLE ACROSS THE BORDER INTO THE NEXT TOWN.
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS AS AN APPROACH.
THIS IS AN ELEPHANT. YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE A PIECE TO FIGHT IT AT TIME.
I THINK THE FIRST THING IS TO DISCOVER WHERE WE'RE GETTING THIS INFLUX OF HOMELESS PEOPLE.
THEN FROM THERE, WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE OF IT.
THEN FROM THERE WE CAN WORK ON RESOURCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD JUST THROW IT OUT THERE AND LIKE YOU SAY, SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS FIND OUT WHERE THIS IS ALL COMING FROM AND HAVE A GOOD GAME PLAN, BE CLEAR OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK AND THEN WORK FROM THERE.
>> MIKE, YOU JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT THE TASKFORCE COALITION HAD COME UP WITH AND THAT WAS THEIR PLAN.
>> WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME FOR THIS?
>> THEY WERE PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND LOGISTICS.
WE'VE GOT A MEETING MAYBE NEXT WEEK WITH THEM TO APPROVE THAT.
THEY'VE ALREADY LINED THE 40 SOMETHING NON-PROFITS UP TO WORK WITH VOLUNTEERS AND ALL THIS OTHER AND THEY WERE GOING TO GET THAT ALL PUT TOGETHER.
I THINK JUNE THEY WERE GOING TO START THERE.
>> WELL, CAN WE AN UPDATE THEN?
>> IT'S GREAT THAT WE GET THESE UPDATES, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL THAT IN SOME OUTLINE; WHO'S PART OF THE COALITION, WHEN DO THESE MEETINGS ARE.
>> WHERE ARE THEY TALKING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
IT DIDN'T GIVE ME SOME UNDERSTANDING ON HOW THE DECISIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE YOUR COUNSEL TO MAKE IT SURE.
>> WE'VE GOT A DATE SCHEDULED, BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU A LIST OF THAT.
JOHN, GET ALL THE DETAILS TOGETHER AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE IT FOR YOU FOR OUR MAIN MEETING COMING UP HERE AND POSSIBLY GET IT TO YOU JUST BY SENT OUT BY EMAIL BEFORE THEN.
>> THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU.
>> WHEN IS THAT COUNCIL SUPPOSED TO MEET?
THAT WAS MY FIRST MEETING WITH THEM.
I'VE MET WITH ANOTHER HOMELESS GROUPS, BUT THAT WAS MY FIRST.
>> I MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THEM BEING [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WOULD LIKE TO BE THERE AND MAYBE JUST PROVIDE SOME REFERENCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WAY.
I WANT TO MOVE IT AHEAD, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.
I DO HAVE A BIG HEART FOR THIS STUFF.
>> DONE. WE'VE GOT A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THIS GROUP.
I'M FINE TO HAVE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE THERE.
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EXCUSE ME. WE CAN JUST POST IT AND ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WANTS TO COME.>> THE ONE WITH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER WASN'T, BUT THIS PHONE WAS, THE ONE I WAS INVITED TO.
>> THE ONE THAT BARBARA'S REFERRING TO.
WHAT WE'RE MEETING WITH IS THE HEADS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PLANNING THIS MATERIAL.
BARBARA'S MEETING MORE ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF IT.
>> I'D LIKE TO ATTEND THAT ONE, SO I KNOW THE LAYOUT.
WHILE WE'RE HERE, I'LL JUST GIVE ME THE DATE OF THAT.
>> I CAN'T MAKE THAT ONE. IT'S MY ANNIVERSARY.
>> YOU WOULD BE HOMELESS MICHAEL. [LAUGHTER]
>> I WOULD BE HOMELESS AND SHE WOULD BE IN MEXICO.
>> BE TREKKING THROUGH ITALY AS I RECALL.
[OVERLAPPING] JANELLE, COULD YOU POST THAT MEETING PLEASE.
>> ARE WE ANTICIPATING A CALL MAYOR? [OVERLAPPING] WELL, IF YOU HAVE A QUORUM THERE AND YOU'RE DISCUSSING CITY BUSINESS, IT'S A COUNCIL MEETING.
>> I WON'T BE THERE. [LAUGHTER]
>> WHAT DID YOU SAY? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU HAVE A QUORUM AND YOU'RE DISCUSSING CITY BUSINESS, IT'S CONSIDERED A COUNCIL MEETING.
>> I CAN'T BE THERE ON THE 15TH EITHER.
>> WELL, MIKE, YOU CAN'T BE THERE ON THE 15TH.
>> WHAT WE'LL DO, WE'LL BRING YOU BACK A DETAILED REPORT.
WE'LL GET IT OUT TO COUNCIL, JUST EMAIL IT TO YOU AS SOON AFTER MEETING AS WE CAN AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
>> DID YOU HAVE INPUT ON MY QUESTION?
>> ABOUT THE POSSIBLE NEW WITNESSES? I'LL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.
I KNOW ATTEMPTED BURGLARY OF A MOTOR VEHICLE WOULD ALREADY BE A CRIME, BUT I'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPTIONS, [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT I WAS TOLD UNLESS SOMETHING WAS SEEN PHYSICALLY STOLEN, THEN IT DOESN'T GO DOWN AS AN ATTEMPTED BURGLARY.
>> THAT MIGHT BE [INAUDIBLE]. IT WOULDN'T BE A TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THERE.
IT MATTERS WHAT THE PERSON'S WAS.
>> IT SEEMS TO ME AT 12:00 AT NIGHT, 12 DIFFERENT HOUSES GET TWO PEOPLE ON FILM.
THEY PROBABLY WERE ON [INAUDIBLE]
ARE YOU ASKING THAT THE INCIDENT BE RECORDED AS ATTEMPTED BURGLARY, EVEN KNOW ONE IS APPREHENDED, QUESTIONED, DETAINED? WELL, BECAUSE IT HAPPENS [INAUDIBLE] ALL THE TIME WHERE PEOPLE WILL SAY THAT HAPPENED, BUT BY THE TIME PV CAN RESPOND OR EVEN NEIGHBORS CAN RESPOND, IT'S GONE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONE.
>> WELL, THE PEOPLE ARE GONE, BUT IT'S NOT RECORDED AS ATTEMPTED BURGLARY.
>> RIGHT. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? THE AMOUNT OF PLEASE COME DOWN TO HOW MANY CALLS COME IN.
WELL, BACK CALL ISN'T COUNTED.
THAT'S SKEWING THE NUMBERS TO AN END CALL.
>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THAT YOU HAVE ALL OF THOSE VICTIMS TO REPORT THAT.
>> THEY DID, AND YOU HAVE ALL THE VIDEOS.
>> HOPEFULLY, THE DETECTIVE HAS PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER AND MAKE SOME HEADWAY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] GUYS, TREVOR'S VERY CREATIVE.
I'M THINKING A BREACH OF THE PEACE, BUT WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
>> IT WAS AN ATTEMPTED BURGLARY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR MY WIFE AND I.
WE WENT TO THE WRONG CAR THE OTHER NIGHT THINKING IT WAS OURS.
[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
I APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL GET THAT REPORT BACK COUNCIL TO YOU RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING.
WE'LL CLARIFY THIS FUNDING ISSUE.
>> SHOULD WE TAKE OFFICIAL BREAK NOW [OVERLAPPING]
I'M GOING TO SHORT-CIRCUIT MY PORTION.
>> WE'RE ON ITEM 3 HERE, PLEASE [INAUDIBLE].
[3.F. Discussion Of Funding For Cultural Arts, Arts & Historic, And Convention And Visitors Bureau, Related To Promotion And Activities (Collins/Brown - 20 Min)]
>> ITEM 3 IS, DISCUSS RANDOM FUNDING FOR CULTURAL [INAUDIBLE]
>> YEARS WHERE WE'RE DOING SOME OF THE JOBS THAT CBD OUGHT TO BE DOING CBD, USUALLY SOME OF THE JOBS THAT CULTURAL ARTS AND THE CITY OUGHT TO BE DOING.
I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT.
IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN,
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THE LAST THING WE WALKED AWAY FROM THE TASK FORCE, IT WAS A CITY VISIT, GALVESTON, THE GALVESTON ART CENTER AND DOWN HOME PARTNERSHIP.WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT BECAME A VERY NICE PLAN.
OUR LAST RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THE CITY BRING ON A CONSULTANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD STRUCTURE THIS OVERALL.
MOST OF THE CULTURAL ARTS, THE CBD PORTION, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY DO JUST FINE.
BUT THE CULTURAL ARTS, WHAT THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION FUNDING IN THIS IS.
WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE RADAR, BARBARA STAFF AND I AND BRIAN STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS TO FIND SOMEONE ON A CONSULTING BASIS WHO CAN HELP US DEVELOP THIS PICTURE.
HOW WE WOULD TAKE OUR CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE ALL SAW IT AND ACCEPTED IN NOVEMBER.
BUT WE HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE $100,000 STUDY THAT SITS ON THE SHELF.
IN APRIL, $50,000 INTO AN ARTBOARD.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABOUT $90,000 INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TO THE CULTURAL ART, THE GALVESTON ART CENTER.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO GO TO WASTE.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE CONSULTANT FUNDING WOULD BE, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, OR REALLY WHAT THE OUTPUT OF IT IS.
WE ALL HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT THIS AND I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU AS A FORWARD-LOOKING PICTURE OF HOW WE DEVELOP AND FUND THE CULTURAL ARTS GOING FORWARD.
THE MAYOR AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A FAIR AMOUNT.
I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO BRIAN.
WHERE WE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION FOR CONSULTANTS, DO THIS.
HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, WE'LL BE BRINGING UP TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND I'LL BRING YOU UP TO A BIGGER PLAN.
I KNOW I'M THE ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN YOU AND LUNCH, SO BUT [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> BUT THE WAY YOU'LL BE BRINGING BACK THAT THE RFQ I WANT TO KNOW THE DETAILS OF RFQ?
>> WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE DETAILS OF THE RFQ TO BRIAN TO TALK THROUGH THAT AND TALK THROUGH CONTRACTS AND ADMINISTRATION TO BE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH AND HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT GETTING THIS CONSULTANT.
THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND SO FORTH.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THIS AND I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED TO YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT QUITE A BIT.
THE RELATIONSHIP OF OUR USE OF FUNDING FOR EVENTS, AND MARKETING AND SO FORTH, AS COMPARED TO THE PACKAGE?
>>THAT'S GOING TO BE KEY. YOU CAN STAND UP A CULTURAL ARTS ORGANIZATION.
WE HAVE A FUNCTIONING CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE AN OVERARCHING OVERALL CULTURAL ARTS PLAN.
IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ACTIVATION ON THIS SIDE AND PROMOTIONAL THIS SIDE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE HAVE TO BE A VERY TIGHT COLLABORATION WITH GALVESTON.
WHAT'S THE POINT OF DOING IT IF YOU DON'T PROMOTE IT? WHAT'S POINT OF PROMOTING SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY DOING?
>> SIX MONTHS AGO WE HAD A ZOOM CONFERENCE WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ABOUT I DON'T AND I'M LOSING WHAT THIS IS.
>> THEY WEREN'T THE CONSULTANTS?
>> WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY HELPED US DEVELOP THE CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN.
>> I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THE CITY HAS A HISTORY OF OKAY.
>> WE'VE GOT A WHOLE SHELF OF THOSE UNIMPLEMENTED PLANS.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE SURE THAT THIS ONE DOESN'T DIE.
>> I JUST WAS TRYING TO TIE THAT ALL.
>> IT'S THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WHAT YOU SAW IN THAT PLAN.
>> BUT THIS IS A VERY BIG DECISION.
THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE THIS INVOLVES OUR USE OF ART FOR MARKETING AND OPERATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR EVENTS AND OR PUBLIC ART.
IT ALSO INVOLVES THE PARK BOARDS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO GIVING OUT GRANTS AND SO FORTH.
WE REACHED A POINT WITH THE AMOUNT OF ART THAT'S BEING DISTRIBUTED, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A VERY ORGANIZED PLAN FOR THAT.
I THINK DAVID IS RIGHT ON THE RIGHT MAN FELT YEAH.
>> YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DRAW A FINER LINE BETWEEN PROMOTION AND ACTIVATION.
>> JUST WANTED TO BRING UP SPEED.
PUSHKIN WHERE THE WAY WE CHECK THE LIGHTS ARE SUPPLIED BY BOARD VENDOR.
THE ELECTRICIAN HAS A BETTER PRICE THAN THE BUY BOARD PRICE.
THAT'S WHY WE WENT THROUGH THE CONTRACTED ELECTRICIAN.
IT'S ABOUT 100 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS A FIXTURE IN LESS THAN $50, LESS.
>> THAT'S THEM, THE BUY BOARD.
>>MERCEDES. GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. DAVID, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT?
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I JUST PUT THIS ON THE RADAR TO SAY WE WILL BE COMING BACK.
WE'LL BE BRINGING MOVIE GRADIENTS AND HOPEFULLY A LARGER PICTURE OF WHAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS CONSULTANT.
>VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF OUR AGENDA.
LET ME ANNOUNCE THE COUNCIL YESTERDAY.
COUNCIL WOMAN LEWIS AND I REPRESENTED THE CITY WITH A CONTINGENT FROM MINNESOTA.
I CALL IT A MINNESOTIANS AND THEY ARE MINNESOTA.
I WAS CORRECTED, BUT THEY WERE HERE TO DO A FILM AND TO PRODUCE A MOVIE CONCERN IN JUNE 2.
THEY WERE HERE, THEY BROUGHT US A PRESENT.
IT IS SWEET POTATO PIE SITTING HERE WITH ME TODAY.
WE THANK THEM THAT MINNESOTA INS FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
>> NOW THAT WAS IN MINNESOTA AND DISH BUT THAT SOUNDS WELL,.
IT CAME BY THE WAY OF ALL THE INCIDENTS THAT WERE HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SHE DECIDED WHAT CAN I DO? THEY'RE CALLED COMFORT PIES AND IT HIT NATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE.
SHE DELIVERED PIES TO THOSE, THE MANUAL SHOOTING STUFF TO PLAY.
>> YEAH, IT WAS AND SHE HAS SEVERAL TESTIMONIES WHERE PEOPLE LIKE ONE LITTLE GIRL WHO WAS TELLING THE GUY TALKING TO THE DUDE.
I ONLY GOT ONE SHOT. YOU SHOULD'VE STAYED HOME. HE SHOULD'VE STAYED HOME.
SHE WAS ASKED, WOULD YOU LIKE A PIE AND THE GIRL'S LIKE, BUT SHE OPENED IT.
>> I WAS CALLING ME [LAUGHTER].
THEY KIND OF COMFORT HER A BIT, SO THEY'RE CALLED COMFORT PIES.
>> THERE'S A NEED FOR COMFORT BY AFTER THIS FIVE-HOUR SHORT WORKSHOPS.
WE HAD GONE THROUGH ALL OF HER AGENDA ITEMS. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
THREE HOURS AND 20 MINUTES.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.