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>> [BACKGROUND] GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
[1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER]
GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE THIS MORNING, IT IS 9:00 AM, SAD LOOKS LIKE FROM THE CROWDS WE HAVE HERE, THIS IS THE PLACE TO BE THIS MORNING [LAUGHTER].WELCOME TO YOU, WELCOME TO STAFF, COURSE COUNCIL, GLAD TO HAVE US TOGETHER AGAIN.
FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS TELECAST IN THE COMMUNITY, GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT JANNEL COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
>> VERY GOOD, ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR.
BEFORE WE START OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS COUNCIL, JUST SOME HOUSEKEEPING CHORES.
ITEM 12A WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION FOR THE JUNETEENTH ALLIANCE, HAS BEEN DEFERRED AND THAT WILL BE PUT OFF UNTIL POSSIBLY OUR APRIL MEETING, SO I WANTED TO GET EVERYBODY AN UPDATE ON THAT.
SECOND OF ALL, WE HAVE A VERY BUSY SCHEDULE TODAY ON OUR WORKSHOP, AND SO COUNCIL WE NEED TO MOVE THROUGH THIS.
WE HAVE TIME SET ASIDE FOR EACH TOPIC, BUT I KNOW WE MAY GO OVER OR UNDER SOME OF THOSE TIMES, [NOISE] BUT WOULD APPRECIATE US KEEPING OUR COMMENTS TO THE SUBJECT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE TOPICS AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
SAYING THAT, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3A PLEASE JANNEL.
[3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (40 Min)]
>> ITEM 3A, CLARIFICATION OF THE SAME AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.
>> THANK YOU JANNEL. JOHN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KICK US OFF ON THAT THIS MORNING?
>> [NOISE] SURE, I DON'T THINK I HAVE VERY MANY QUESTIONS TODAY BUT MY CONTRACT WAS WON ON, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE WORKSHOP.
SORRY [INAUDIBLE]. I'LL SKIP THE ONE REAL QUICK WHILE I GET EVERYTHING ELSE READY, BUT THE 11L, THE PAVING MACHINE, SO THAT'S DELIVERED IN MAY.
CAN YOU JUST DELIVER THAT STRAIGHT TO GULF VILLAGE?
>> WE'RE TRYING TO DO MAN [OVERLAPPING].
>> NO NOTHING OVER, GULF VILLAGE.
>> THEY ALMOST LET YOU FINISHED.
>> THEY CAN FINISH THIRD STREET. THEY HAVE A WIDE OPEN FUND
>> DOES GULF VILLAGE, YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF STREETS THERE.
>> IS EQUIPPED KICK IN OUR PARTS.
>> HOPEFULLY BETWEEN THREE PAPERS NEED TO KEEP ONE OF THEM.
>> WOULD BE GREAT, I GET CALLS WEEKLY ABOUT DRIFTWOOD TOO.
SEE WE'RE COVERING THIS SUBJECTS QUICKLY. [LAUGHTER]
>> 10 D THE OVERNIGHT PARKING REVISION THERE WAS IT JUST AN OVERSIGHT ON THAT? DID WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT BECAUSE OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS IS THAT THAT'S IN RELATIONS TO THE NON-BEING OVER PARKED OVERNIGHT.
THE ORDINANCE READ TWO THURSDAY, MEANING WE WANTED TO INCLUDE THURSDAY, SO WE CHANGE TWO TO THREE.
>> DID WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THIS LAST GO AROUND?
>> WE HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL FOR LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WE JUST WANTED TO CONTINUE.
>> GOOD. ON THE ART BOARD APPOINTMENTS AND TERMS, ARE WE GOING TO COVER THAT IN THE WORKSHOP OR?
REALLY, I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT. I DON'T HAVE MUCH THIS WEEK.
>> THANK YOU, JOHN I APPRECIATE IT. DAVID?
I WAS A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS WERE ALREADY GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WORKSHOPS.
I TOO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ASPHALT PAVEMENT MACHINE BUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE BOUGHT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST, LITTLE BIT HEAVIER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
WE'VE GOT OUR PAPERS ARE SOMEWHAT THEY'RE MADE FOR SMALLER TYPE JOBS WHEN YOU WORK IN THE HELL OUT OF MY FAVORITES RUNNING EVERY DAY.
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WE'VE UPGRADED THE EQUIPMENT A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS ONE, HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER RELIABILITY.>> ONE OTHER QUESTION I DID HAVE PROBABLY FOR JANNEL, WHAT IS THE AMENDED POLLING PLACES? WHAT DID WE ADD? WHAT'S THE CHANGE THERE?
>> WE HAD TO ELIMINATE GISD ADMIN BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION THAT WENDY MENTIONED WHEN SHE CAME OVER AND SPOKE TO COUNSEL AND THEN WE ADDED THE COUNTY WIDE PULLING WITH PATIENTS IN THE OTHER CITIES AS THE ONLY CHOICE.
>> WAS THE ADMIN BUILDING WE LAUNCHED?
>> THE ONE OCCASION IN HISTORY [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S FOR ELECTION DAY ONLY.
>> I MAYBE WOULDN'T HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION OF THIS SUIT.
MOST PEOPLE WHO NEED TO VOTE AT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE ANYWAY, SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY HAVE THAT ON THERE.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT IRONIC THAT WE'RE HAVING AN ELECTION IN D2L AND THERE'S NOT [OVERLAPPING] IN D2 GENEROUS, BUT I THINK WE'RE TRAPPED BY STATE LAW OF COUNTY DIRECT ON THOSE.
>> IT IS ONE OF THE LOWEST EXCEPT FOR THE LAST ELECTION.
>> AT SOME POINT, COULD WE [NOISE] LOOK AT THIS COUNT AGAIN?
>> HOW MUCH THOSE ARE? WHAT ARE USED.
>> WELL, IT IS, WHAT IT IS TODAY, BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS AGAIN IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER OF SOME.
>> MENARCHE PARTS WOULD BE FINE.
BUT THEN PARKING AND WE GOT EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON THERE.
IT ISN'T DISTRICTS TO HAVE PARK IN FIGURES, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT ON A SATURDAY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY OKAY.
THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANKS.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DAVID. FOR YOU?
>> NOW, I'M GOOD. I HAVEN'T PAID FOR IT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MURRAY?
>> I'M GOING TO BRING UP A LEMONY.
WHICH IS A GOOD THING THAT WE'RE FINALLY GETTING LIGHTS ADDED TO HOPPER FIELD.
HOW HARD WOULD IT BE TO INCLUDE ROTARY AND THE OTHER FIELD?
>> THIS IS BEING DONE WITH A GRANT FROM THE CENTER POINT.
>> CAN WE BE MORE CREATIVE ON HOW WE GET THAT LIGHTS?
>> SURE THE LEAGUE PRESIDENT WOULD REACH OUT TO US.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO TALK TO HER AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR USAGE ARE AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK.
>> WELL, THEY REGISTERED 400 KIDS THIS YEAR WITH THE THE BIGGEST NUMBERS IN THE T BALL AREA, WHICH WOULD BE TEAMS THAT CAN PRACTICE ON THE OUTFIELD, PROBABLY YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS PROBABLY BETTER THAN I CAN.
>> ACTUALLY, WE HAVE THE THREE FIELDS AT CROCKETT WITH LIGHTS AND WE ALSO HAVE LINDALE WITH LIGHTS.
OUR UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE ORIGINALLY MET WITH THEM IS THAT POSSIBLY THEY MOVED THEIR TEE-BALL GAMES OUT TO LINDALE.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING HAS CHANGED OR NOT.
THE FIELDS AT WESTALL THE PLAYING SURFACE IS TOTALLY SAFE IF THEY PLAY BEFORE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.
BUT TO LIGHT WESTALL AND/OR ROTARY FIELDS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN UPGRADE IN LIGHTING SITUATION.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE, I BELIEVE IT IS $387,000 TO DO THE LIGHTING UP AT HOPPER, WHICH IS TOTAL UPGRADE BRINGING EVERYTHING UP TO CODE AS FAR AS ELECTRICAL COMING IN THE BUILDING AND EVERYTHING.
YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING OVER 300,000 PER FIELD.
ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY IS THAT THREE-FOURTHS OF ROTARY FIELD IS ON GISD PROPERTY.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS OVER THE YEARS OF ALLOWING US TO USE IT.
BUT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE RESTROOMS AT ROTARY, WE HAD TO TOTALLY SHUT THEM DOWN AND PULL OUT THE FIXTURES BECAUSE IT SITS RIGHT THERE AND THAT'S WHAT FEEDS THAT SALTWATER INTO WHERE MOODY GARDENS WAS HAVING A PROBLEM.
THAT'S NO LONGER A SITUATION THAT YOU CAN HAVE A RESTROOM AT THAT FIELD.
WE ALSO HAVE HAD SEVERAL FOLKS, I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT A CAMERA ON IT, THAT HAVE KICKED IN THE DOOR AT WESTALLS BUILDING OUT THERE OR OUR BUILDING I SHOULD SAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HOMELESS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST KIDS BEING KIDS OR WHAT.
MY THOUGHTS ARE IS THAT ONCE WE GET HOPPER FIELD COMPLETED, THAT WE COULD TAKE A WHOLE MASTERPLAN LOOK OUT THERE AND SEE MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE BATTING CAGES OUT THERE.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO BE DOING OUT THERE.
>> MAYBE WE LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BE CREATIVE IN
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OTHER ITEMS THAT UNDER PARKS THAT COULD BE PAID FOR WITH OTHER FUNDS.>> PARTICULAR ITEM TODAY IS WE RECEIVED A GRANT FOR $50,000 FROM THE CENTERPOINT, WHICH IS A VERY GENEROUS GRANT.
THIS IS GOING TO HELP TO COMPLETE THIS FIELD BECAUSE OF COURSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, AS YOU GET INTO OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, JOHN [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, THINGS START TO GO UP.
THE LIGHTS HAVE GONE UP TWICE SINCE WE ORIGINALLY STARTED THIS PROJECT.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION.
>> I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT THINGS AS MOBILIZATION IS SUCH AN EXPENSIVE DEAL THAT IF YOU DO MORE THAN ONE AT A TIME, IF I GRANTED [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE SHOULD CONTACT MS SANDERSON AND THEY SHOULD WORK WITH SCHEDULES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAXIMIZING THE USE OF WHAT WE HAVE AND IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL, THEN WE'LL BEGIN WORKING WITH [OVERLAPPING]
>> ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE FACING IS THEIR NOT BEING ABLE TO USE THEIR GISD FIELDS FOR PRACTICE WHERE THEY USED TO, SO MAYBE WE CAN HELP.
>> GISDS HAD SOME ISSUES AND THEY'RE LOCKING UP WEISS, PARKER, AND AUSTIN.
I BELIEVE AUSTIN WAS SOMEONE THAT HAD SOMEBODY THAT HAD A, I THINK THERE WAS A STABBING OUT THERE OR SOMETHING ONE EVENING.
I THINK THE SCHOOL POLICE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY LOCK THOSE FACILITIES UP AT NIGHT.
>> WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK BECAUSE PRACTICE USUALLY OCCURS DURING THE DAY.
>> WE HAVE APPROACHED [INAUDIBLE] AND SHE'S GOING TO WALK WITH US ON THAT.
>> LET ME BRING US BACK TO TOPIC HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOPPER FIELD NOW AS A SUBJECT [OVERLAPPING]
>> BARBARA WILL REACH OUT TO THE LEAGUE PRESIDENT.
>> I'LL BE HAPPY TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE LEAGUE AT OUR MEETING TONIGHT.
BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE AND AN INVITE [OVERLAPPING].
MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION.
>> YOU HELPED THEM, CERTAINLY HOPE THEY'RE COMMUNICATING WITH A PARKS DIRECTOR BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO BE DISINGENUOUS ON THEIR PART TO JUST SHOW UP AT COUNCIL LIKE THAT WITHOUT COMMUNICATING WITH STAFF.
>> THE REASON THEY'RE SHOWING UP TO COUNCIL TODAY IS TO INVITE COUNCIL TO THEIR OPENING CEREMONY.
>> AWESOME. [OVERLAPPING] ALSO, IS TROPHY MAKING A TOUR TODAY?
>> SATURDAY. [OVERLAPPING] I THOUGHT IT WAS TODAY BECAUSE TODAY WAS AT THE SPA AND THEN IT'S AT [INAUDIBLE].
>> BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT ON THEIR PARADE IN FLORIDA AROUND ALSO.
>> THE LITTLE LEAGUE HERE IS DONE GREAT THINGS.
WE REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH THEM TO BE A SUCCESS.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH BARBARA ON THIS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I LIKE TO SAY THE PRESIDENT WHO WAS AT [INAUDIBLE] HAS STAYED ON TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE HAS A HISTORY BEHIND HER AND THAT SHE CAN MAKE A CALMING MERGING EFFECT.
IT'S BEEN GREAT MARK AS TO JUST STAND UP.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON LIBERTY?
>> NO. BUT I DO HAVE ONE MORE.
>> JUST BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T LET ROSS GO THROUGH A MEETING WITHOUT ASKING THEM QUESTIONS.
>> LOOKING AT PLUS WE GET TO TRACK THAT, SEE HOW WELL YOUR PALEO DIET IS GOING.
ANYWAY, CAN YOU JUST EXPAND ON THIS? IT WAS THE MAXIMUM 35.
>> MAXIMUM WAS 15,000 THAT WE CAN GO UNDER CITY MANAGER AUTHORITY [INAUDIBLE] TREATMENT HELPFUL.
WE'D LIKE TO EXTEND THAT TO 15,000.
>> PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR 37 STREET.
>> VERY GOOD. MUD. 11B AND THEN B. I GUESS I JUST NEED THIS FOR THE GRANT MANAGEMENT.
OR ARE THEY WRITING GRANTS OR I DON'T?
>> BASICALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE WANT TO GET SOME FREE PHYSICIAN CONTRACTS WITH VENDORS THAT CAN HELP US WHEN WE NEED HELP WHEN APPLICATION PERIODS BECOME AVAILABLE.
THAT WOULD BE FOR ANY TYPE OF CDBG DISASTER RELIEF GRANT OR CDBG MITIGATION GRANT.
THE CURRENT CONTRACTS WE HAVE ARE SPECIFIC TO THE FIRST GLO MONEY WE GOT FROM HARVEY AND WE CAN'T USE THOSE FOLKS WITHOUT FITTING IT OUT.
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WE BASICALLY ARE SELECTING THREE CONTRACTORS THAT WE CAN CALL IN WHEN WE NEED ASSISTANCE IN DOING APPLICATIONS AND COMPLIANCE.>> HOW DID THEY GET PAID? WHAT FEE?
>> WELL, WE PUT THE PREPOSITION CONTRACT AND THEN IF WE AUTHORIZE ONE OF THEM TO DO ANY WORK, WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A TASK ORDER THAT'LL SHOW HOW MUCH THAT SCOPE IS GOING TO BAKE FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO AND WHAT THEIR HOURLY RATES ARE, THE PERCENTAGE.
MOST OF THE GLO CONTRACTS ARE THE GLO CONTRACTS, THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST IS KEPT.
THESE CONSULTANTS HAVE TO STAY UNDER THAT KEPT COST.
11I, SO THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF $40,000 FOR VEHICLES THAT WE HAD PUT AN ORDER IN.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW CAN WE PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING?
>> THIS WAS PART OF THE CHIP SHORTAGE ISSUE WHERE WE DIDN'T GET OUR TRUCKS IN '21, WE DIDN'T GET THEM IN '22, AND THIS IS THE PRICE INCREASE WE'RE SEEING IN '23, WE'RE SEEING IT ACROSS THE BOARD ON EVERYTHING.
WE'RE OUT THERE, THIS IS NOT JUST HAPPENING TO US, IT'S HAPPENING TO EVERY OTHER CITY THAT'S USUALLY BY BOARD [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S A COST-EFFECTIVE WAY TO BUY IT?
>> ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I'M OUT THERE BIDDING FIVE TRUCKS.
I'M GOING TO GET ONE PRIZE, THEY'RE BIDDING OUT 50,000 FOR US.
>> THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS THAN BY BOARD.
>> NOW, WE CAN ALWAYS TRY TO SOLICIT A LOCAL BID, BUT TYPICALLY IN THE PAST, THIS BLOWS IT OUT OF THE WAR.
>> ALSO OUR CONTRACTS, EXCUSE ME, WITH MULTIPLE.
WHEN THIS CAME ABOUT, WE CALLED OUR OTHER DEALER WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND CHECKED WITH THEM TO SEE IF THEY HAD CHEVROLETS OR DODGE AT A CHEAPER PRICE AND THE PRICES ARE COMPARABLE TO FORDS MARKET THOSE UP TO.
BASICALLY, WE GOT A PRICE FOR 2021 OR '22 MODELS. THEY COULDN'T MAKE THEM.
NOW, WE CAN GET THE '23 MODELS.
THEY'LL COME IN THIS YEAR. THE LACK OF PAY THE PRICE FOR 2023 MODELS.
>> IF WE TAKE THAT EXTRA PRICE AND PUT IT WITH THE BASE PRICE, WERE STILL COMPETITIVE?
>> WE'RE STILL COMPETITIVE. WE CHECKED WITH CHEVROLET AND DODGE AND CALDWELL CHEVROLET AND WE ARE COMPETITIVE.
>> ACCORDING TO AUTOMOTIVE NEWS AND STUFF THAT WE RESEARCHED, SEVEN PLUS PERCENT IS IN LINE WITH THE ACTUAL PRICE INCREASE OF VEHICLES FROM THE MANUFACTURER.
I THINK THE DEALER IS NOT, THERE'S NO EXTRA MONEY IN IT FOR THE DEALER, IT'S ALL MANUFACTURER MONEY.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME MORE COMMON TO, WHICH WILL BE REBUILT IN THE FUTURE.
>> WE'RE GOING INTO THIS WITH GARBAGE TRUCKS, WE RUN INTO IT WITH EVERY AND WE JUST GOT REAL LUCKY ON THE PAPER THAT DAVID FOUND ONE THAT WAS IN ROUTE.
>> YES. IF WE HAVE TO WE WILL[LAUGHTER].
TRINO KNOWS THAT THESE PAPERS ARE THE PAIN OF MY EXISTENCE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT WE KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN BOTH OUR DISTRICTS AND WOULD HELP.
>> I WANT A PICTURE OF LEWIS ROSEN DRIVING A [LAUGHTER].
>> THANK YOU, DAVID. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> I SAW HER WHEN WE RODE UP IN THE ELEVATOR AND WELCOME HER.
>> IF YOU HAVEN'T MET HER, THIS IS REBECCA ANDERSON.
WE DON'T LIKE TO CALL HER THIS WAY, BUT SHE'S THE NEW ALICE LAW, BUT SHE'S TAKEN OVER OUR GRANTS AND HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
>> JUST A QUESTION REGARDING, I SEE THE QUALIFICATIONS, AND I SEE THE CITY IS GOING TO MANAGE THIS PROGRAM, BUT THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE OFFERING, HOW WILL THEY RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTRACT?
>> THE CITY IS GOING TO MANAGE THE TBRA PROGRAM.
WE'RE GOING TO DO RFPS FOR THE SOCIAL SERVICES [INAUDIBLE] SERVICES ARE OUR PUBLIC SERVICES THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE HOMELESS AND THE OTHER VULNERABLE POPULATION.
THEY'LL PUT IN THEIR RFPS, WE'LL GO THROUGH, WE'LL SCORE, AND THEN WHOEVER CAN DO THE TRANSPORTATION, WHETHER IT'S A CITY DEPARTMENT OR AN OUTSIDE SERVICE, THEY WILL BE AWARDED THE CONTRACT AND THEY WILL GO THROUGH WITH THE SERVICE THAT WILL PROVIDE WHAT THEY NEED.
>> WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THE HOMELESS BUSINESS,
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BUT WE'RE GOING TO LET THE AGENCIES THAT SERVE THE HOMELESS NOW BID ON THIS AND GET THE FEES TO GET THE MONEY THEY NEED TO DO THEIR WORK.>> THEIR FEES ARE COMING UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION APPOINTMENT?
>> THEIR FEES WILL COME OUT OF THE 9,000 OUT THE PUBLIC AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
THE CITY WILL RETAIN THE 133,000 FOR THE ADMIN AND PLANNING SINCE WE'RE RUNNING THE TBRA PROGRAM.
>> BEFORE WE INTRODUCE THE REPORTING, WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING ELSE ON IT IN THE AUDITS.
>> THE BALANCE IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE USED TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> TO ADMINISTER AND PUT THE DOLLARS ON THE STREET.
>> REBECCA, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.
>> I CAN'T FIND IT NOW, BUT WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, THIS IS JUST FOR HOUSING IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON, NOT THE COUNTY. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> WE CAN GO OUT OF THE COUNTY IF YOU-ALL WOULD LIKE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, IT MENTIONS THE COUNTY OF GALVESTON, THESE FUNDS ARE FOR, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THIS AS JUST FOR THE CITY.
>> IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THEY CALL THE ENTRAPMENT AREA OF THAT.
>> WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE CHANGE IN FINANCING WITH THE WATER BOARD OVER THE GALVESTON WATER BOARD.
>> WE'RE CHANGING [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE HAVE AN ITEM AND I CAN'T FIND IT.
>> THAT'S THE ONE. [OVERLAPPING] THE AFA ON WATER PROJECTS.
>> IN THE PAST, THE CITY HAS UTILIZED GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY AS ITS FINANCING VEHICLE FOR ALL OF ITS CAPITAL PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY, BUT THE CITY, THANKS TO THE CITY COUNCIL LEADERSHIP ON THIS, WE NOW HAVE AN INVESTMENT GRADE BOND RATING, AND SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE OUR OWN MONEY.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE INTEREST RATES AND STUFF WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW WITH THE BANKS, WE CAN TAKE THAT MONEY SIT IT IN THE BANK.
NOW, IF WE EXECUTE THIS AFA, WHAT THEY'LL DO IS WHEN THEY BID THE PROJECTS, THEY'LL GIVE US ACTUAL COST FOR WHATEVER OUR PRO RATA SHARE IS UNDER THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AND WE'LL CUT THEM A CHECK AT THAT TIME WHEN WE HAVE HARD COSTS.
THESE PROJECTS TAKE A WHILE, THE DESIGN, BID, EVERYTHING ELSE.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE ACCRUING INTERESTS THAT WE CAN THEN, IN TURN, UTILIZE FOR OUR OWN WATER, SANITARY SEWERAGE, WATER.
>> BASICALLY, THERE WAS A THROWBACK 20 PLUS YEARS AGO WITH THE CITY'S CREDIT RATING WASN'T WORTH A DAMN.
[LAUGHTER] WE DON'T NEED THAT ANYMORE.
WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST BOND RATINGS IN THE AREA, SO WE ARE VERY GOOD AT THAT.
>> WELL DONE ON EVERYBODY'S PART.
IT'S JUST WHEN I SEE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, MY BRAIN GOES TO THE BRIDGE AND THE PROBLEMS SURROUNDING THAT.
THAT ISN'T FIRST ON THE HOOK OR ANYTHING?[OVERLAPPING]
>> NO. IN THE BULK OF THIS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BRANDON, INVOLVES THIS REALIGNMENT OF THIS WATERLINE BECAUSE OF THE TEXTILE REALIGNMENT AT THE TECH CITY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S OUR LINE. ORIGINALLY THEY RAN IT UNDERNEATH THE TEXTILE BRIDGE.
THAT BRIDGE IS GETTING MOVED, SO THE LINE HAS TO BE MOVED.
WE'RE THE ONLY ONES ON THE LINE.
>> THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE WE DO SHARE A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME OTHERS.
>> THAT EXPLAINS IT. THANK YOU.
>> SHARON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I DIDN'T KNOW.
IT'S A FASCINATING CASE TO ME. THIS [INAUDIBLE]
>> [INAUDIBLE] PLANNING. IT'S A STRAIGHTFORWARD THING.
>> THIS PARKING LOT, IT'S A CITY RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN USING IT FOR PRIVATE PARKING FOR 16 YEARS. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> WELL, IT, AT SOME POINT, GOT FENCED, AND IT WAS USED FOR PRIVATE PARKING.
>> WE DIDN'T PUT THE FENCE UP.
>> [LAUGHTER] THEY'VE BEEN USING THIS CITY LAND FOR THE 16 YEARS OR SO.
ARE THEY GOING TO USE IT AS A PARKING LOT?
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>> YES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'LL BE LEASED TO THE PORT OR OPERATED AS A PARKING LOT.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT AWAY. WE DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE ENCROACHING ON OUR PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS A PIECE OF RIGHT AWAY THAT WE WOULD, I CAN'T IMAGINE, [INAUDIBLE].
>> SINGLE BIGGEST MISUNDERSTANDING THAT CITIES ENCOUNTER IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP AND RIGHT-OF-WAY.
WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH THE ALLEYS AND THINGS ALL THE TIME.
>> RATHER BETTER, WHO OWNS A SIDEWALK?
>> SAME DIFFERENCE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T REALLY SEE IT THAT WAY.
>> VERY GOOD. WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
SOME OF THE STAFF MAY STAY, BUT I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR BEING HERE.
LET'S MOVE NOW, IF WE COULD PLEASE, TO ITEM 3B PLEASE.
[3.B. Discussion Of Water Meters And Water Bills (Robb/Brown - 15min)]
>> ITEM 3B, DISCUSSION OF WATER METERS AND WATER BILLS.
>> WE HAD OUR OWN EXPERIENCE, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT, BUT I'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY ON PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW METERS, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS NEW METERS OR NOT, BUT PEOPLE'S BILLS TRIPLING OR QUADRUPLING.
I THOUGHT I'D PUT IT ON BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE ALL OVER THE ISLAND.
>> WE SUSPECT THAT SOME OF THIS WOULD OCCUR WHEN WE PUT THE NEW METERS IN JUST BECAUSE WE HAD PROBABLY A LOT OF NON REGISTERING METERS BEFORE, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE UPGRADING THE METERS.
SOMEBODY SAID WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HIT ANYBODY WITH A CATCH-UP SITUATION, THAT'S ONE THAT SARAH COULD SPEAK TO THAT, BUT WE HAVE SEEN SOME INCREASED USAGE WITH THE NEW METERS BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY ACCURATELY RECORDING.
OF COURSE, IF ANYBODY EVER HAS A QUESTION, THEY JUST NEED TO REACH OUT TO SARAH'S GROUP AND THEY'LL GO THROUGH IT.
ACTUALLY, WITH THESE NEW ONES, WE CAN HELP THEM GET THE APP ON THEIR PHONE SO THEY CAN LOOK AT IT AND THEY CAN SEE THE SIGNS OF WHERE THEY HAVE A LEAK OR IF THEY DON'T HAVE A LEAK.
TRINA, WHAT'S OUR PENETRATION SO FAR ON THE NEW METERS?
>> WHEN YOU SAY PENETRATION, WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
>> HOW DEEP ARE THEY IN THE GROUND? [LAUGHTER]
>> HOW MANY [INAUDIBLE] ARE THEY?
>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 5,700 INSTALLED.
WE SHOULD BE GOING A LOT FASTER, BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES ON THAT SIDE.
THEY INSTALLING SOMETHING LIKE 200 A WEEK RIGHT NOW.
WE GOT A BIG BULK COMING IN, SO THEY'RE GOING TO RAMP IT BACK UP, BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 5,700 GOING IN RIGHT NOW.
>> WHICH PUTS US AT ABOUT 22 PERCENT.
>> WHERE HAVE THEY GONE IN? WHAT AREAS HAVE BEEN HAVING METERS?
>> THEY JUST STARTED THE WEST A MONTH AGO.
THE CURRENT BILLS SHOULDN'T EVEN REFLECT THEIR USAGE, I WOULDN'T THINK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE ISLAND? BECAUSE I'VE LITERALLY HAVE HAD CALLS FROM EVERYWHERE ON THE ISLAND.
>> THEY'RE SPORADIC THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND BECAUSE WHEN WE INITIALLY KICKED OFF, TRINA, WE DID INTENTIONALLY SPORADIC THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GETTING GOOD SIGNALS THROUGHOUT.
>> THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEM SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.
WHEN THEY INITIALLY STARTED THE INSTALL, THEY DID START IN TOWN JUST FOR THE PROXIMITY OF BEING CLOSE TO PUBLIC WORKS AND BEING ABLE TO MONITOR THEM, RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO FAR WEST.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY FAR WEST RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THEIR WAY EAST.
>> HAVE YOU BEEN GETTING CALLS TOO?
>> WE'VE HAD A HANDFUL OF CALLS, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE.
OCCASIONALLY, A METER MAY NOT HAVE BEEN TIGHTENED ENOUGH ON THE INSTALL, BUT THE CONTRACTOR GETS RIGHT OUT THERE, AND MAKES THAT REPAIR FOR US.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE WOULD HAVE CALLS FOR ERROR ON THE LINE LIKE THAT AFTER THEY DO IT BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE WE REPLACED THEIR METER DURING THE DAY.
THEY COME HOME AND THEY FLUSH THE TOILET AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A ROCKET SHIP TAKING OFF, SO WE DO GET CALLS LIKE THAT, BUT AS FAR AS MS. BILLING, WE'VE HAD A HANDFUL.
>> YEAH, A HANDFUL. I HAVEN'T BEEN HAVING A LOT OF CALLS ON IT AT ALL.
>> I SAID WITH THE NEW METERS, THEY'LL GET AN APATHETIC NEWS.
>> HOW CAN WE GET THAT OUT TO YOU?
>> WE'RE TESTING THE APP RIGHT NOW, WE WERE GOING TO RELEASE IT THIS WEEKEND.
WE FOUND SOME BUGS IN THE APP AND WE PULLED BACK FOR ANOTHER MONTH.
AS WE WORK THROUGH THOSE BUGS, WE DIDN'T WANT TO READ IT, WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT HEADACHE WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CORRECT BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT THERE, SO RIGHT NOW OUR TARGET IS TO GET IT OUT THERE AT THE END OF APRIL.
>> CRAIG ANALYSERS ARE PROVIDED BY THOSE PROVIDED BY ALL THE AMI PROVIDER ABOUT BADGER.
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I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING SINCE WE HAVE SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN MY DESK DURING THOSE ISSUES WHERE A CONTRACTOR WILL BORROW OR STEAL WATER FROM THE SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS AND THEY'RE LIKE, MY BILLS WAY UP AND IT'S BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS TAKING THERE.
>> THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND. THAT SPECIFICALLY....
>> IT IS LITERALLY SHOCKED ME SINCE I'VE BEEN SAYING MANAGER HERE, I'D NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT WATER THEFT, NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT WATER THEFT BUT IT IS A REAL THING.
THIS CHANGE OUT HAS BROUGHT A LOT OF IT'S ALIVE.
WE'VE CAUGHT SO MUCH THEFT JUST FROM THE CHANGE OUT.
WE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMPLETELY BYPASS OR METERS WILL SIT LIKE THAT. [LAUGHTER].
>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ERRORS THAT YOU ALL ARE FIGHTING IN THE WATER BILLS FOR ALL THE NUMERATORS?
>> WE'RE NOT REALLY FINDING ERRORS, IF THERE IS A LEAK AND IT WAS CONTRACTOR ERROR, WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK AND SEE HOW MUCH WOULD IT PASS.
WE CAN ADJUST THAT ACCORDINGLY.
>> NO BILLING ISSUES. NO, SIR.
>> THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE GOING MUCH SLOWER THAN OTHER CITIES GO WITH THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT NEWS, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH OUR CUSTOMERS, BUT I WILL SAY WE ARE FINDING A LOT OF THE OLD METERS THAT EITHER MORE TURNING CORRECTLY OR WE'RE BEING BYPASSED AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WERE GETTING PROBABLY THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE GETTING MINIMUM BILLS AND THEY WERE USING MORE WATER THAN THAT.
>> THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING WE'RE FINDING AND SO CUSTOMERS AREN'T GOING TO CALL AND THEY'RE GOING TO WONDER WHY THEY HAD AN INCREASE BUT WITH THESE NEW METERS, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT PROFILES.
SHOW HERE'S WHAT YOUR LEADER WENT INSTALLED AND HERE'S YOUR USAGE.
>> THEY'RE SOLID STATES SO THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO TAMPER WITH.
>>THAT'S WHAT IT IS, BUT THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE HAD WHERE THERE'S A CONTRACTOR FALL AND IT'S NOT TIGHT ENOUGH ON THE HOMEOWNER SIDE.
THAT'S HOW A PERSON COULD BE OVERBUILD, THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING THROUGH THE METER BECAUSE WE HAD REMEMBERED THAT CONVERSATION.
YOU SAID, THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE METER OR THE FIRST INSIDE.
WELL, NOT IF IT'S A NEW INSTALL.
>> GIT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN YOU EXTRACT VIEW THE PROFILE.
>> IT'S READILY APPARENT ON HERE, WE ACTUALLY GET 15 UNIT DATA NOW AND SO WE CAN NAIL IT DOWN TO 15 MINUTE INTERVALS AND SEE EXACTLY WHEN THE METER WAS INSTALLED AND WHAT USAGE IS GOING THROUGH.
>> THE INSTALLERS TAKE A PICTURE OF WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE OF THE OLD METER, OF THE NEW METERS SO WE KNOW EXACTLY THE TIME IT WAS INSTALLED, EVERYTHING IS TIMESTAMPED AND DOCUMENTED IN THERE.
>> ONE NIGHT CHUCK YOUR [LAUGHTER] READER WITH THAT.
>> WE DELIVERED IT YET, SO [NOISE].
>> IT'S BLURRY AS IT'S GETTING [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE HAVE ONE METER DESTROYED, I THINK, DIDN'T WE?
>> YES, WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE DISMANTLE THEIR NEW METERS, CUT THEM OURS AND THANKS.
>> WE'RE ABLE TO MOLT VALVES, SHUT THEM SO WE CAN DISCONNECT WITHOUT TREE NOSE GREW ON SOME.
>> THEN ALSO WITH THE SYSTEM, THE SYSTEM ALERTS US WHEN SOMETHING HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH COMPARED TO THE OLD SYSTEM WHICH DIDN'T, SO IN THE INSTANCES WHERE THE METER WAS DESTROYED, WE RECEIVED AN ALERT AND THEN WE INVESTIGATED THE ALERT WITHIN A DAY OR TWO AND RECOGNIZE THAT IT WAS DESTROYED, WHERE IN THE PAST THAT WOULD HAVE GONE AN ENTIRE MONTH.
>> SHARON, DO YOU HAD A QUESTION AND JOHN DO?
>> JUST TO SEE IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE, AS YOU GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITIES, DID WE SAY THAT COUNCIL WOULD RECEIVE SOME TRACKING SYSTEM AS YOU PUT IN THE METERS?
>> WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT AND WORKING WITH MARISSA IN THE AREAS THAT WERE AT GETTING LIKE A FACEBOOK POST OUT.
WE ALSO GO AND WE PUT A DOOR HANGERS WHEN WE'RE IN THE AREAS THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS, THAT'S WHERE WE STOPPED WITH OUR COMMUNICATION.
WE COULD PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB OF LETTING YOU ALL KNOW WHEN WE'RE IN YOUR SPECIFIC DISTRICTS.
>> THAT WOULD REALLY HELP YOU REMEMBER THAT YOU FORGOT THAT, THAT WOULD BE SO HELPFUL.
>> I THINK THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
>> IF YOU THINK THIS IS SLICKED, I'D LIKE TO EITHER AN APRIL AND MAY BRING YOU A LOOK AT OUR NEW SANITATION SOFTWARE.
>> I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT THE THINGS THAT EXCITES ME [LAUGHTER].
>> VETERANS, I'M GOOD JOB WITH THAT, TOO.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
[3.C. Presentation Of Juneteenth Events (Lewis/Brown - 15 Min)]
C, PLEASE. CHANEL.>> ITEM 3C, PRESENTATIONS OF JUNETEENTH EVENTS.
>> COUNCIL, ONE OF THOSE WILL LET YOU INTRODUCE EVERYONE.
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>> WHEN WE HAVE ALEX, TOM, AND SOON AS OUR PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FROM VISIT GALVESTON HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND HE'S GOING TO PRESENT FOR US.
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU, MAYOR CITY.
NOW, REMEMBER, IT'S LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR PARKOUR STAFF AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF THE GODDESS, THE UNITED JUNETEENTH, THE LINES THAT ARE WITH US ARE CITIZENS OF GALVESTON HERE AND ONLINE, WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR [NOISE] ALL THE GREAT EVENTS THAT ARE GETTING READY TO TAKE PLACE.
WE HAVE NEARLY 25 EVENTS AND THAT'LL BE TAKING PLACE HERE ON THE ISLAND, SOME STARTING AS SOON AS NEXT MONTH AND WE'RE JUST A LITTLE OVER TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM CELEBRATING THIS GREAT CULTURE.
WHILE TALK ABOUT THESE EVENTS REALLY BRIEFLY, UNDERSTAND MAYOR TOLD ME YESTERDAY AT THE LUNCHEON THAT I HAVE 15 MINUTES, BUT I THINK I'VE SHARED A LITTLE BIT IT'S TIME WITH MY COLLEAGUE BRANDON LEVIAS.
SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE REALLY BRIEF, BUT WHEN YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE AROUND ISLAND, KELLY TOLD ME STICK TO THE SCRIPT AND STAY WITH MY 10 MINUTES AND SO I'M GOING TO HAVE 15 AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO STAY.
BUT I WANT TO START WITH OUR FIRST SLIDE.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS HERE THROUGH THE CARDBOARD STAFF, I CAME ON BOARD OVER A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO AS A PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND WE HAD GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY ON THE EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE ON THE ISLAND LONG BEFORE I CAME HERE, LONG BEFORE A LOT OF US HAVE EVEN BEEN HERE ON THE ISLAND, BUT AS WELL AS JUST THE HISTORY OF JUNETEENTH AND SO EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING.
ONE OF THE GREAT EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE ON THE ISLAND, I HOPE I HAVE ENOUGH COPIES FOR EVERYBODY.
I TRIED TO PRINT IT AND NO ONE EVER USE CROWD THIS MORNING BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN FIND THIS INFORMATION ON A WEBSITE AT VISIT GALVESTON.
YOU CAN DO A SEARCH FOR JUNETEENTH ACTIVITIES, WHICH CAN ALSO GO TO THE URL JUNETEENTHBIRTHPLACE.COM.
IT WILL DIRECT YOU TO THIS PAGE WHERE ALL THE EVENTS ARE LISTED.
BUT THIS IS AN EVENT I TALKED TO THE BRAND MUSEUM LAST YEAR AND THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING IN CONNECTION WITH JUNETEENTH.
THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HERITAGE, A FOOTBALL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGH THE PERIOD, AS WELL AS HERE ON THE ISLAND OF GALVESTON.
THE SAME GRADE DIDDLY THAT ALLOWED A LOT OF PLAYERS TO BREAK BARRIERS AND NOT ONLY DO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE, BUT JUST THE NFL CULTURE IN GOING ON TO JUST MAKE HISTORY WHEN IT COMES TO FOOTBALL IN TEXAS S WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THIS EXHIBIT THAT'LL START APRIL THE 20TH.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE A BROWN BAG LECTURE SERIES WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK, DR. MICHAEL HART WILL COME INTO A PRESENTATION AT THE BRIAN MUSEUM SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THAT'LL BE TAKING PLACE IN MAY.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT ANOTHER GREAT EXHIBIT THAT WILL BECOME TO THE ISLAND THE BLANK SLATE MONUMENT.
THIS IS A TRAVELING EXHIBIT, IS CURRENTLY AT RICE UNIVERSITY RIGHT NOW, IT'S COMING HERE APRIL 15TH.
IT'S TRAVELED ALL THE WAY FROM GHANA, SO WE ARE IN DISTINCT PLEASURE TO HAVE THIS ON THE ISLAND.
IT IS A VERY INTERACTIVE PIECE WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE INTERNET AT THE SITE AND THEY CAN MAKE A [NOISE] PHRASE, OR PUT A PHRASE THAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP THERE AND THAT PHRASE WILL BE ON THE MONUMENT FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS WHERE THEY CAN TAKE PICTURES AND BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY HERE ON THE ISLAND AND GAUSS.
OUR ANNUAL JUNETEENTH SCHOLARSHIP GALA, WHICH WE RECOGNIZE THE ANNUAL MS. JUNETEENTH.
THIS IS A GREAT EVENT HAS HAPPENED EVERY YEAR AT OLD CENTRAL CULTURAL CENTER AND WILL TAKE PLACE ON SUNDAY, JUNE 4TH.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT OUR NEW PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE ON THE ISLAND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DR. AARON MASINI, MINISTER OF HEALTH AND I THINK THE CITY RECOGNIZED HER LAST MONTH AS A NEW BUSINESS.
SHE WILL BE OFFERING JUNETEENTH AND BEYOND GUIDED TOURS, SHE'S HERE WITH US THIS MORNING.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PRODUCT, IT GIVES US SOMETHING TO OFFER NOT ONLY TO THE TOURISTS ON THE ISLAND, BUT TO EDUCATE OUR LOCALS AS WELL.
WE'D LIKE PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GO AROUND THE ISLAND AND LEARN ABOUT JUNETEENTH AS WELL AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE AND OTHER ATTRIBUTES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN GAUSSIAN.
THE 26TH ANNUAL JUNETEENTH BANK, WE WILL BE TAKING PLACE AGAIN AT THE OLD CULTURAL SENSE OR CENTRAL CULTURAL CENTER.
THIS IS AN ANNUAL EVENT, LOT OF GREAT SPEAKERS, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, GOOD FOOD, BUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF JUNETEENTH.
>> SORRY. THIS IS ONE OF OUR ANNUAL EVENTS THAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO YEAR-ROUND.
WE STARTED THIS YEAR WITH THE JUNETEENTH BROWN BAG LECTURE SERIES.
THE FIRST ONE WAS AT THE NIA CULTURAL CENTER WITH NAOMI CARRIER AND THE SECOND ONE WE HAD AT THE OLD CULTURAL CENTER WITH MS. TOMMIE BOUDREAUX AND ALEX JACKSON TWO OF OUR GREATEST HISTORIANS ON THE ISLAND.
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THE THIRD ONE WE JUST HAD WAS AT REEDY CHAPEL WITH SHARON GILLIES.THAT ONE WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
WE HAD A GROUP OF STUDENTS HERE FROM SWEDEN THAT HAD BEEN IN TOWN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND GOT WORD OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE ON THAT SATURDAY AND THEY SHOWED UP.
ONLY DID THEY SHOW UP IN STAY FOR THE ENTIRE LECTURE, THEY ACTUALLY CAME BACK THE NEXT DAY AND VISITED REEDY CHAPEL AND WORSHIPED WITH THE CONGREGATION, AND THEN TOOK MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION ON THE BOAT TO SHOW THEM THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.
I HEARD BACK FROM THE INSTRUCTOR FROM SWEDEN, HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THE GROUP BACK NEXT YEAR.
THAT WAS A GREAT IMPACT JUST ON THIS LECTURE SERIES AND BEING ABLE TO TELL THE STORY OF JUNETEENTH TO OFFER THIS GREAT INFORMATION.
HATS OFF TO SHARON AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT HAS BEEN HELPING US WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY.
THE ONE TO TAKE PLACE IN JUNE WILL BE SATURDAY JUNETEENTH.
IT WILL BE AT THE ROSENBERG LIBRARY AND THAT WILL BE WITH SEAN MCDONALD AND THE STAFF THERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN CAPITALIZE ON THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE IN THE ROSENBERG HISTORY CENTER.
THERE'S SO MUCH ARCHIVED INFORMATION IN THERE.
THERE'S SO MUCH HISTORY THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE PART OF THE JUNETEENTH COMMUNITY BUT ALSO JUST HISTORIES OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HERE ON THE ISLAND AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
I ENCOURAGE YOU ANY SATURDAYS THAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO COME IS THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 12 O'CLOCK.
WE HAVE THEM SCATTERED AROUND THE ISLAND, BUT THEY'LL BE ON THE WEBSITE WITH THOSE DATES AS WELL AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE CITY AND MAKE SURE WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THEM.
NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE 2ND ANNUAL SUCCESS IN BUSINESS, JUNETEENTH, MINORITY & WOMEN, BUSINESS ENTERPRISE EMPOWERMENT SUMMIT & GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENT AT OLD CENTRAL.
THIS WAS A GREAT EVENT, NOT WELL ATTENDED LAST YEAR.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ENCOURAGE OUR YOUTH, ENCOURAGE ANYONE IN THE CITY LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT WITH OUR OPPORTUNITIES THEY'LL JUST REALLY GROW THEIR CURRENT BUSINESS.
WE HAD A LOT OF PROFESSIONALS THERE AND THEY HAD A WEALTH OF INFORMATION AND RESOURCES TO SHARE IN HONOR OF JUNETEENTH, BUT ALSO ENCOURAGING AFRICAN AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURSHIP IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME OUT.
THIS EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 14TH.
WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE RESCHEDULING THE TIME SAY HAVE IT FROM 1:00 TO MAYBE 5:00.
THE TIME WILL BE UPDATED ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S IN THE PLANNING STAGE, BUT IT DEFINITELY WILL TAKE PLACE ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 14TH.
THE JUNETEENTH SYMPOSIUM. THIS IS A NEW EVENT.
LAST YEAR WHEN WE DECIDED TO PARK BOARD WANTED TO SUPPORT JUNETEENTH FINANCIALLY, KELLY ASKED ME TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WOULD HELP INCREASE SOME OF THESE EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES.
THIS IS ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND WORKING WITH SUE JOHNSON IN NIA CULTURAL CENTER TO CREATE A PLATFORM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE AND TALK ABOUT JUNETEENTH.
I KNOW WE'RE WORKING WITH JUNE PULLIAM AND SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF THE JUNETEENTH ALLIANCE, BUT ALSO THE NIA CULTURAL CENTER BOARD TO CREATE WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
THAT'LL TAKE PLACE ON THURSDAY, JUNE 15TH, AT THE GALVESTON ISLAND CONVENTION CENTER.
I THINK STARTING AT 01:00 AND ENDING AT AROUND 05:00.
THE 9TH ANNUAL JUNETEENTH GALA ASHTON VILLA.
I KNOW MANY OF YOU, I HAVE SEEN FACES THERE THAT ATTENDED LAST YEAR'S GREAT EVENT THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.
USUALLY, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OR SENATOR FROM THE STATE CAPITAL THAT'LL COME AND ADDRESS THE BODY.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS EVENT TO HELP CELEBRATE THE HERITAGE OF JUNETEENTH ON THURSDAY, JUNE 15TH AT ASHTON VILLA.
THIS IS A GREAT EVENT THAT WE STARTED LAST YEAR WITH THE NIA CULTURAL CENTER.
IT'S THE EMANCIPATION GOSPEL CELEBRATION WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS YEAR.
LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST WE BROUGHT IN BISHOP MARVIN SAPP FOR A GREAT EVENT.
THIS YEAR WE HAVE NONE OTHER THAN TWO-TIME GRAMMY WINNER SMOKIE NORFUL COMING.
WE HAVE 11 TIMES STELLAR AWARD NOMINEE ZACARDI CORTEZ AND THE FOURTH SEASON, SUNDAY BEST WINNER AMBER BULLOCK WILL BE AT THIS EVENT.
I WILL RUN THE COMMERCIAL REAL QUICK HERE. WE CAN HEAR IT.
BUT YOU'LL HEAR THAT ON RADIO WAVES PRETTY SOON, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER EVENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO.
JUNETEENTH FESTIVAL, THIS IS AN ANNUAL EVENT THAT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE.
IT'S MOVED, I THINK LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT IT WAS AT MCGUIRE-DENT.
IT WILL TAKE PLACE AGAIN THERE ON SATURDAY, JUNE 17TH, AND IT WILL GO FROM ONE O'CLOCK TO I THINK 8:00 P.M. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO PEOPLE ATTENDING THAT AS WELL.
WE'LL ALSO ON THAT SAME DAY, HAVE OUR ANNUAL JUNETEENTH PARADE, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE ON 26TH STREET & H. IT WILL END AT WRIGHT CUNEY PARK WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A PICNIC.
WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT TO PARTICIPATE.
I JUST GOT WIND FROM THE PARADE ORGANIZERS THAT APPLICATIONS WILL BE GOING OUT TODAY FOR THE FLOAT.
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IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF THE PARADE, YOU CAN GET THOSE APPLICATIONS TO BE A PART OF THAT AS WELL.NOT SURE WHY THIS CLIP IS A LITTLE TOO FAST ON ME I APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS A NEW EVENT, VERY EXCITED.
GOT A CALL JUST LAST WEEK FROM A COLLEAGUE WITH THE STATE COMMISSION AND MADE AN INTRODUCTION WITH MYSELF AND MEMBERS FROM THE SMITHSONIAN.
THEY ARE DOING AN EVENT CALLED CIVIC SEASON WHERE THEY'RE ENGAGING YOUTH TO BE A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION OF JUNETEENTH.
THIS EVENT IS NO EVENT WHEN THEY IMMEDIATELY REACHED OUT TO ME THEY TALKED ABOUT A SLICE OF HISTORY.
THIS WOULD BE A PIECE OF PARTY WHERE WE ENGAGE STUDENTS BUT ALSO HAVE A 30-MINUTE DOCUMENTARY THAT'S BEEN CREATED BY THE SMITHSONIAN TO SHOWCASE HISTORY ABOUT JUNETEENTH, BUT ALSO ENGAGE THEM IN THE HISTORY HERE IN GALVESTON.
I'M WORKING WITH THE ROSENBERG LIBRARY.
WE'RE IN THE ORGANIZING STAGE, BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION THIS EVENT.
IT WILL TAKE PLACE ON SATURDAY, JUNE 17TH AT 4:00 P.M AND GO TO SIX O'CLOCK.
IT WILL FOLLOW THE PARADE AND PICNIC.
WE'LL GIVE SOME ACTIVITIES TO ENGAGE THE STUDENTS AT THAT TIME.
THIS IS THE JUNETEENTH LET FREEDOM RING COMEDY FEST.
IN OUR EFFORTS TO BRING NEW EVENTS TO THE ISLAND, WE WANTED PEOPLE TO HAVE A REASON TO STAY ON THE ISLAND FOR THE ENTIRE WEEKEND.
IF YOU NOTICE STARTING ON THAT THURSDAY, THERE'S ACTIVITIES BUILT IN AND THEY WILL GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE HOLIDAY ON THAT MONDAY.
THIS IS TO ENCOURAGE KIDS IN BEDS, OVERNIGHT STAYS, MOVING PEOPLE AROUND THE ISLAND TO REALLY CELEBRATE AND APPRECIATE THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE ON THIS ISLAND. ANOTHER GRADE EVENT.
EVERY YEAR, CLUB 68 HOST AN EVENT FOR JUNETEENTH.
THIS YEAR WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK WITH THEM.
THEY'RE BRINGING IN AND IT'S ZYDECO GROUP.
I THINK YOU SAW IT IN THE ZYDECO STEPPERS.
THIS EVENT, WILL TAKE PLACE ON SATURDAY NIGHT STARTING AT 8:00 PM.
I KNOW WE HAVE MEMBERS HERE FROM CLUB 68 LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO PROMOTE THIS EVENT AS WELL.
THIS GIVES PATRONS ON THE ISLAND AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A PARADE AND FESTIVAL IN THE DAYTIME AND HAVE A PART OF OUR NIGHTLIFE ACTIVITIES WHICH WILL INCLUDE LIVE MUSIC, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
THEY DIDN'T GET UP ON SUNDAY MORNING AND GO PRAISE THE LORD.
[LAUGHTER] THIS EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THERE, REEDY CHAPEL.
MOST OF YOU KNOW THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF REEDY AND THE IMPACT THAT REEDY HAS.
IF YOU WEREN'T AT THE BROWN BAG LECTURE SERIES.
SHARON GILLIES REMARKABLE JOB OF EDUCATING EVERYONE THERE ON THE ROLE THAT REEDY CHAPEL PLAYED.
WHEN IT CAME TO JUNETEENTH AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PRIDE MYSELF WHEN I TALK ABOUT GALVESTON AND JUNETEENTH IS THAT WE ARE THE INTERNATIONAL PLACE, WE ARE THE BIRTHPLACE.
WE ARE THE PLACE WHERE NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE CELEBRATED ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THEY ACT TO COME HERE TO GET THE GRAVY AND IT'S RIGHT HERE ON THE ISLAND.
SO WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE SHARON GILLIES, WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE SAM COLLINS, SUE JOHNSON, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THIS WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND THEY SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS TOURISTS FROM ALL OVER TO COME HERE AND LEARN ABOUT JUNETEENTH.
I WOULD INVITE YOU ALL TO BE AT IT ON SUNDAY AFTER THE PARTY ALL DAY SATURDAY YOU GO AND WORSHIP.
WE ALSO HAVE SERVICES AT AVENUE ELDER AS WELL.
SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF PLACES TO WORSHIP ON THE ISLAND.
THIS IS ANOTHER GREAT EVENT THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE ON SUNDAY, THE GALVESTON SYMPHONY IS GOING TO BE CELEBRATING JUNETEENTH, AND THIS WILL BE AT THE GRAND OPERA HOUSE ON SUNDAY, JUNE 18TH.
I THINK THIS EVENT IS GOING TO BE AROUND FOUR O'CLOCK. THANK YOU, JUNE.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS IS GOING TO PAY HOMAGE TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN MUSIC, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR VERY OWN.
AZOLA COLLINS WROTE A PIECE AND MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW HER OR KNOWN OF HER AND HAVE HER BOOK, ISLAND OF COLOR.
HER DAUGHTERS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
BUT THE GALVESTON SYMPHONY PERFORM THAT PIECE LAST YEAR.
SHE'S THE ONLY GALVESTONIAN, WHO'S EVER HAD THEIR MUSIC PERFORMED BY THE GALVESTON SYMPHONY.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND DEFINITELY WANT TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.
EXCITED ABOUT THIS EVENT, MET WITH THIS GROUP LAST NIGHT AND GET HOME AT 10 O'CLOCK.
THEY ARE PUMPED UP AND READY TO GO.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR NEW EVENTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING INTO THE ISLAND.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THE FIRST TIME I MENTIONED IT AND I SAID SNEAKER BALL, PEOPLE WERE LIKE SNEAKER BALL WHAT IS THAT? SO THIS IS AN EVENT WHERE EVERYBODY, WE DO OUR SUITS AREN'T BALL DRESSES AND WE PLAY OUR FRESH PAIR OF SNEAKERS AND WE COME OUT AND WE DANCE AND CELEBRATE.
IF YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF JUNETEENTH, THE FIRST BALL WAS CELEBRATED ON JANUARY 1ST OF 1866.
THIS WAS THE CELEBRATION OF EMANCIPATION.
IN MY TWO YEARS OF BEING ON AN ISLAND, WE HAVE NOT HAD A BALL, WE HAVE NOT HAD A CELEBRATION OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
SO IN THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CELEBRATE,
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THIS WAS AN EVENT THAT WAS CREATED TO BRING BACK THAT AMBIANCE OF BEING IN A BALL, BEING ABLE TO DRESS UP, BEING ABLE TO CELEBRATE THIS FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, CREATE IT IN A WAY THAT IT WILL ENCOURAGE AN AGE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT ALLOWS NOT ONLY OUR YOUNG GROUP, BUT AS WELL AS OUR ELDERS TO BE A PART OF IT.SO WHEN I FIRST INTRODUCED IT, DEAR FRIENDS LIKE DAVID ON NEIL, MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW HIM ON THROUGH THE EDUCATION OF COMMUNITY HERE.
SAID I'M READY TO PUT MY PINKY SHOES ON.
SO I LOOK AT IT FROM BEING AGES 30-70, 80, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WILL BE OUT THERE FOR I DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD TIME.
SO I ENCOURAGE OUT TO BE A PART OF THIS EVENT AS WELL.
IT'LL TAKE PLACE AND MOVIE GARDENS ON SUNDAY, JUNE 18.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TEAM OVER THERE TO COORDINATE ALL THAT.
THIS WILL BE, IT WILL BE HOSTED BY THE GALVESTON COUNSEL OF THE GREEKS.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO BENEFICIAL IS IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE REORGANIZATION ON THE ISLAND DIVINE 9, THESE ORGANIZATIONS COME TOGETHER, THEY DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR THE ISLAND AND THE COUNTY, BUT NOT ONLY THAT ACROSS THE GLOBE AND THEY HAVE A WIDE REACH.
ANY OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WILL REACH OUT TO THEIR FRATERNITY BROTHERS, THEIR THROWING SISTERS, AND THEY WILL DRAW PEOPLE TO THIS ISLAND.
THEY'VE HAD REGIONAL MEETINGS HERE THROUGHOUT THEIR RESPECTIVE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, THEY ALL SHOWED UP LAST NIGHT AND THEY'VE ALL WORKING, THEY ALL HAVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT TO HELP SUPPORT THESE.
PROCEEDS OF THE EVENT WILL GO TO HELP ALL CENTRAL CULTURAL CENTER.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
OUR 44TH ANNUAL AL EDWARDS JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AND ASHTON VILLA.
THIS IS EVENT HAS GOING ON FOREVER.
THE PIONEER HIMSELF OUT EDWARDS WHO HELPED GET JUNETEENTH ESTABLISHED AS A STATE HOLIDAY.
WE STILL PAY HOMAGE TO HIM EACH YEAR AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS LEGACY.
IT WAS FOR HIM AND OTHER LEADERS THAT HAVE MADE THIS POSSIBLE AND SO THIS IS AN ANNUAL CELEBRATION IN HIS HONOR.
THE JUNETEENTH FAMILY FUN BAY.
THIS IS ANOTHER ACTIVITY THAT TAKES PLACE ON THE GROUNDS OF REEDY CHAPEL, ALLOWS FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO COME OUT.
THEY'LL HAVE GREAT ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS, BEIGE JUMPS, FOOD, FINE AND THAT WILL LEAD RIGHT UP INTO THE EMANCIPATION MARCH THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE FROM REEDY CHAPEL UP TO THE OLD COURTHOUSE SQUARE, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO RE-ENACT THE GENERAL ORDER NUMBER 3, READING FOR JUNETEENTH.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT ALL THESE ACTIVITIES.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WHEN WE PROMOTED JUNETEENTH.
OUR RELATIONS DEPARTMENT AND OVER 60 PLUS MEETINGS WITH JOURNALISTS AND MEDIA MENTIONED WE HAD MISSIONS WHERE WE WENT TO NEW YORK, LOS ANGELES, AUSTIN, HOUSTON, OKLAHOMA CITY AND NEW ORLEANS.
BUT WE'VE ALSO DONE 15 PRESS TOURS IN GALVESTON, MORE THAN 45 EARNED MEDIA STORIES AND 15.1 AUDIENCE REACH, BUT 1.1 MILLION AND PUBLICITY VALUE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.
YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT AND PUTTING THOSE STORIES OUT THERE, BEING ABLE TO SEND THOSE PRESS RELEASES OUT AND GENERATE THAT ENTHUSIASM ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE ISLAND.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO THE BIRTHPLACE AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF AND BE ABLE TO SHARE.
>> I THOUGHT A HAIR TRIGGER. [LAUGHTER]
>> I KNOW. WE HAD OWNED MEDIA THAT CREATED OUR JUNETEENTH LANDING PAGE ON VISITGALVESTON.
WE ADDED ALL OF THESE EVENTS TO OUR LANDING PAGE.
WE'VE CREATED GRAPHICS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE LOGO THAT'S DOWN IN THE BOTTOM CORNER.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE CREATED LAST YEAR.
I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS WON. SEVERAL OTHERS HERE.
I KNOW WE PASS THEM OUT, BUT WE ALSO CREATED A E-NEWSLETTER AS WELL.
WE PURCHASE MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAMES AND WE CAME UP WITH USING JUNETEENTH BIRTHPLACE BECAUSE HE'S ONLY MAKES SENSE.
WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE VERY RELATIVE TO HOW WE PROMOTED THE ISLAND AND CREATE THE BRAND AND OUR BRAND TAGLINE IS WHERE IT ALL BEGAN.
THIS IS WHERE IT STARTED, THIS IS WHERE IT HAPPENED AND THIS IS WHERE IT CONTINUES TO GROW.
SO THAT'S A PART OF THE LOGO AS WELL.
THESE ARE A SAMPLE OF THE DIGITAL ADS THAT WERE FEATURED EVERYWHERE FROM GALVERSTON DAILY NEWS, 365 HOUSTON TO WORLDLIFESTYLE.COM.
BUT BEFORE I CLOSE OUT, I WANTED YOU TO SEE THIS VIDEO HERE.
WHERE IS MY TECHNICAL SUPPORT.
I DON'T WANT TO CLICK PAST THIS FOODS AND THEN I AM GOING TO CLOSE OUT AND GIVE OPPORTUNITY TO BRANDON TO BE ABLE TO SHARE YOUR STORY.
IN CLOSING, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE GREAT EVENTS.
WE HAVE OVER 25 THAT ARE LISTED.
THESE EVENTS NEED THAT ECONOMIC BOOST TO HELP WORLD AS WE PREPARE FOR 160 ANNIVERSARY THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE IN 2025.
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THESE NEED TO BE SIGNATURE EVENTS.THESE NEED TO BE EVENTS THAT WE INVITE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
JUST TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE FROM SWEDEN.
THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WANT TO COME HERE AND BE A PART OF THIS CULTURE. THEY NEED HELP.
WE'RE HAVING THEM DO THE PARK BOARD, BUT WE NEED HELP FROM THE CITY AS WELL TO SUPPORT THESE EVENTS AND HELP THEM GROW.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR PLANS. THANK YOU.
>> [APPLAUSE] ARRIVING DOWNTOWN TEXAS, WITH 2002 AND JUNE 1865 TO ANNOUNCE IN TO THE FORCE TO FREE THE BLACK STATES.
THIS WAS THE BIRTH OF JUNETEENTH.
THIS JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION WAS STARTED HERE IN GALVESTON, TEXAS.
THANKS TO TWO TEXAS LEGISLATORS, [INAUDIBLE] AND US SENATOR, JOHN CORNYN.
SOME HISTORIANS DISPUTE BY SAYING THAT IT WAS A MYTH THAT GENERAL GRANGER HIMSELF ALSO AROUND ELSE, READING IS GENERAL [INAUDIBLE] FREEING SLAVES OR THAT NOTHING HAPPENED, IT HAS TO DO A MATCH.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I DON'T CARE [LAUGHTER] WHETHER YOU READ IT OR NOT I DO KNOW ONE THING THAT IT HAPPENED IN GALVESTON, TEXAS.
IT MEANT AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED.
WHETHER IT WAS READ FROM A BALCONY OR POSTED THROUGHOUT DALLAS, AND AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN DESCENDANT I AM HAPPY TO BE FREE.
AS A STATE REPRESENTATIVE HOWEVER WOULD ALWAYS SAY HAPPY JUNETEENTH.
>> VERY GOOD. WE HAVE MORE PRESENTATIONS?
>> YES. ANOTHER PRESENTATION FROM MR. BRANDON LEVIAS.
>> SAY THAT AGAIN, [INAUDIBLE].
>> BRANDON LEVIAS, AND HE CURRENTLY WORKS WITH THE JUNETEENTH UNITED COALITION AND HE'S ALSO WITH A COMPANY IN HOUSTON.
WELL, IT IS STILL A MORNING, RIGHT? [LAUGHTER]
>> GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME.
I'M ALSO WITH REPRESENT BOUCHER, THE GALVESTON UNITED JUNETEENTH ALLIANCE.
ALSO THE EVENT COORDINATOR FOR 3D CHAPEL AME.
I'VE SELECTED LAST YEAR TO HOLD FOR MY PARTY.
IT WAS THE LARGEST EVENT THAT WE HAD A READING FOR A WHILE.
I HOPE TO GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT ON WHAT I HAVE TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT LOGISTICS TODAY, TO REINFORCE WHAT ALICE IS TALKING ABOUT.
WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO JUNETEENTH AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THIS AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. IF I CLICK RIGHT.
[LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] HERE WE GO.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS CLICKING. HERE WE GO. THE GOAL.
THE GOAL IS TO INCREASE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND INFORMATION FOR BUSINESSES TO ATTEND JUNETEENTH EVENTS.
THAT IS THE GOAL, KEEP THAT IN MIND.
IF WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO GET THE JUNETEENTH OF THIS, GUESS WHAT, WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY TRAFFIC.
WE ARE NOT HAVING ANY TRAFFIC, WE'RE NOT HAVING AN INFLOW OF DOLLAR. ALL RIGHT?
>>NOW, LET ME GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE FACING SINCE THIS IS A NATIONAL EVENT.
I'M GOING TO PARAPHRASE THIS A SHORT TIME.
TENNESSEE, THEY HAVE THE NATIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS MUSEUM.
THEY ARE GOING TO HOST AND HAVE BEEN HOSTING JUNETEENTH EVENTS AT THEIR SITE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE EVENTS IN THE FUTURE TO FOLLOW WHAT THEY HAVE THERE.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ALEX.
[LAUGHTER] WE GOT A MAN OF THE SONG.
PHILADELPHIA. PHILADELPHIA HAS A MAJOR PARADE.
THEY HAVE ONE OF THE BEST PHRASE OF THE NATION, IF NOT THE BEST.
THEY DO IT RIGHT THERE IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN GAPS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S THE CITY BUILDING RIGHT THERE IN PHILADELPHIA, I'VE BEEN THERE MYSELF.
THEY HAVE PRISTINE VIEWS FROM A MEDIA STANDPOINT TO WHERE IT ENHANCES THEIR EXPERIENCE FOR WHAT, LIKE ALICE WAS SAYING, VISITORS CAN TAKE PART AND REALIZING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET WHEN THEY GO THERE.
DEALING WITH DC, MARYLAND, VIRGINIA AREA.
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THIS IS THE MORE ROBUST EVENT IN THE NATION.THEY HAVE MUSEUMS, THEY HAVE FOOD FESTIVALS, THEY HAVE CONCERT SERIES, THEY HAVE A WEEK LONG EVENT WITH CELEBRITIES EVERYWHERE.
NOW, THEY STILL DON'T TOUCH IT.
[LAUGHTER] WE GOT TO POSSESS CLICKER TODAY.
EVERY SOURCE OF MEDIA AROUND THE WORLD WHEN THEY TYPE JUNETEENTH INTO GOOGLE, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO GALVESTON.
THEY'RE GOING TO STATE THAT WE ARE THE GROUND ZERO, WE ARE THE BIRTHPLACE, WHERE IT ALL BEGAN.
WITH THAT BEING SAID AND DONE, YOU MAY GO TO VIRGINIA, YOU MAY GO TO PHILADELPHIA, YOU MAY GO TO SOMEWHERE IN THESE UNITED STATES TO CELEBRATE, BUT GUESS WHAT, YOU GOT TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHERE I NEED TO GO GALVESTON HERE.
[LAUGHTER] WE GIVE AN EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST ABOUT JUNETEENTH, BUT GUESS WHAT, WE HAVE MORE ATTRACTIONS THAN ALL THESE OTHER PLACES COMBINED.
I'M TALKING ABOUT BEACH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STRAND, I'M TALKING ABOUT SCHLITTERBAHN, THESE RESORTS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO GET A DIRECT AND AN INDIRECT EXPERIENCE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? JUNETEENTH WILL BE THEIR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
WHEN THEY GATHER, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WOW, THAT EXPERIENCE IS SO MUCH, I COULDN'T DO IT ALL.
NOW, HOW CAN WE BECOME THE BIGGEST IN THE NATION AND CELEBRATE THIS AND KEEP IT? WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO ONE THING THAT IS TO CONNECT WITH US.
YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE A STRONG NET SYSTEM.
CLICK AND JUST MOVING THAT STILL [INAUDIBLE], THERE WE GO. I'LL START HERE.
[LAUGHTER] IN CONNECTING THE DOTS, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THROUGH UTILIZING PUBLIC TRANSIT.
NOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE TROLLEYS, WE HAVE SUBWAYS, WE HAVE MONORAIL SYSTEM, WE HAVE BUS SYSTEMS, WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT WHERE PEOPLE COME TO TRAVEL TO PLACES.
LET'S JUST SAY DISNEY WORLD FOR INSTANCE.
DISNEY WORLD HAS ITS OWN TRANSIT CITY.
GUESS WHAT, IF IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT, IT WILL BE HECK GET ACROSS SIX DIFFERENT PARKS.
IT'S THE SAME THING WITH JUNETEENTH.
AS ALICE ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE SEVERAL EVENTS.
HOW ARE PEOPLE THAT'S TRAVELING IN VIA FLYING, PROBABLY DRIVING IN WITH AN RV, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET TO THESE THINGS, FROM THEIR RESORTS OR RESPECT TO HOTELS? THIS LINE COVERS ALL THAT. WALK WITH ME NOW. HERE WE GO.
IN MORE DETAIL, I WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS ROUTE MORE SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE CONCENTRATION OF JUNETEENTH THE BUSINESS AREA.
I HAVEN'T DONE IT WITH WHAT WE HAVE ON THE SCHEDULE, THIS IS THE ROUGH DRAFT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE I HAVE A RED LINE THAT FOLLOWS, AND THAT GREEN LINE THAT YOU SEE. DO WE HAVE A POINTER? IS THAT A POINTER ON HERE? LET ME HELP YOU OUT REAL QUICK.
SORRY. THIS YELLOW DOT RIGHT HERE, THIS IS A PROPOSED SPOT THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE AS A STOP AND THAT WILL DEFINITELY COVER A CENTRAL POINT.
THERE WITH THESE EVENTS IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE THERE'S NO STOP BETWEEN STOP, LET'S SEE HERE, WHERE THE GALVESTON PIER IS, THE PIER ALL THE WAY TO THE STRAND, THERE'S NO STOP THERE.
WITH THAT SAID AND DONE, THAT YELLOW DOT RIGHT THERE, IF WE HAVE A PROPOSED STOP, PEOPLE WILL HAVE MORE ACCESS TO GETTING TO THESE EVENTS THAT'S MORE CENTER TO THE ALLEN.
YOU THE REEDY CHAPEL, YOU HAVE ASHTON VILLA, YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW PLACES WITH THE CULTURAL CENTER AS WELL THERE, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS AS WELL.
BUT ABOUT 3-5 STOPS DEAL WITH EVENTS ARE IN THAT AREA THAT'S LOCAL.
NOW, IN MORE DETAIL, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
LIKE I SAID, ASHTON VILLA, REEDY CHAPEL, AME, THE GALVESTON COURT HOUSE DEALING WITH THE REENACTMENT MARCH.
ALSO THESE ARE THE STOPS OF CURRENT EVENTS, THE NIA CULTURE CENTER, STOP 5.
THE GRANT 1894 OPERA HOUSE, STOP 3.
THE ABSOLUTELY EQUALITY MURAL,
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WHICH IS A GENERAL STUFF FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT'S SO BIG, STOP 5.THE GALVESTON CONVENTION CENTER, STOP 10.
THE FORMAT IS ALREADY THERE WE JUST NEED TO DO ONE SMALL MONITORED SWITCH.
NOW TO ENHANCE THIS, BECAUSE EVERYBODY MIGHT NOT USE A TROLLEY, WE LIVE IN A DAY OF RIDESHARE WE CAN DEFINITELY CREATE A COUPLE OF SPOTS, IF NOT ONE OR TWO.
DELAWARE RIDESHARE DESIGNATIONS CALL CURVED SPACE.
NOW, HERE'S THE DEMAND, WASHINGTON DC, SAN FRANCISCO, FORT LAUDERDALE, AND ALL THESE OTHER CITIES HAVE THEM WHEN IT COMES TO THE EVENTS THAT THEY SHARE THERE TO REDUCE CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC.
PEOPLE WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPTION TO GET TO THESE EVENTS AND IT'LL REDUCE PEOPLE FROM CROWDING AT CERTAIN HOTSPOTS DEALING WITH TRAFFIC, AS YOU CAN SEE.
BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WE COULD REQUEST FROM YOU GUYS AS A CITY TO DESIGNATE, TO MAKE THIS A MORE ROBUST WAY OF GETTING TO EVENTS.
NOW, LASTLY, WHAT'S THE POINT? I'VE SAY ALL THESE THINGS, BUT LET'S GET TO THE POINT.
IT CREATES ACCESS TO JUNETEENTH EVENTS.
LIKE I SAID, IF YOU CAN'T GET SOMEWHERE, YOU CAN'T ENJOY IT, YOU CAN'T SPEND MONEY, IF NECESSARY.
CREATE AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE COMMUNITY EACH EVENT.
THE LAST ONE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.
WHEN YOU GO ANYWHERE TRAVELING WITH THE FAMILY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE LITTLE KIDS.
[LAUGHTER] DON'T YOU WANT IT TO BE AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE? BECAUSE LORD FORBID IF YOUR TODDLERS HAVING A TANTRUM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S REALLY MY POINT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS.
I HOPE YOU ALL CONSIDER MY PROPOSAL.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME, AND THAT'S IT.
>> I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE OUT THERE THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED WITH THESE EVENTS, AND HELP PLAN THESE EVENTS.
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL.
YOU DO SUCH A GOOD JOB WITH THIS.
I'VE MENTIONED THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE, I'D LOVE TO SEE JUNETEENTH BECOME THE LARGEST CELEBRATION IN BID ON THIS ISLAND IN EACH YEAR. [APPLAUSE]
>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, FOR THESE EVENTS THAT REQUIRED TICKETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHAT IS THE GOOD WAY POSSIBLE TO FIND THOSE? LIKE WHERE WE COULD PURCHASE TICKETS.
>> ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS ON THE WEBSITE, AND SAID JUNETEENTHBIRTHPLACE.COM.
EVERYTHING IS UP NOW THERE ARE STILL SOME TICKETS LINKS THAT ARE BEING ADDED.
PROBABLY 80% OF THESE EVENTS ARE FREE, AND THE ONES THAT DO REQUIRE A TICKET PURCHASES WE'RE ORGANIZING TO HAVE LINKS ON THEM.
ANYTHING ABOUT THE WEBSITE YOU CAN UPDATE DAILY.
BECAUSE WE JUST ANNOUNCED THE AWARDS OF FUNDING FOR SOME OF THESE EVENTS, A LOT OF THE ORGANISMS ARE WORKING TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH UP THOSE LAST MINUTE DETAILS.
[NOISE] BUT YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THAT INFORMATION WHEN YOU GO TO THE SITES, BUT ALL THE EVENTS ARE ACTUALLY THERE NOW WITH THE DESCRIPTIONS ABOUT THE EVENTS LOCATIONS, WHICH IS THE PURCHASE ASPECT, WILL BE THERE PRETTY SOON.
>> THANK YOU. SHARON I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
COUNCIL ROMAN ROB HAS ASKED THAT WE WOULD TAKE A BREAK.
I WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT TO COUNSEL.
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK NOW OR WOULD YOU? [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER].
LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
[3.D. Seawolf And Stewart Beach Park Updates (Park Board - 20 Min)]
>> I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO OUR ART BOARD LIAISON COUNCIL MEMBER [INAUDIBLE].
>> AS YOU CAN SEE, I PASSED OUT A POWER POINT SHEET SO YOU WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG, BUT THERE ARE SOME NUMBERS THAT YOU'LL BE INTERESTED IN, SO YOU CAN TAKE HOME, AND LOOK AT THOSE.
I'VE HAD AN OVERVIEW BACK IN LATE 2022, GALVESTON CITY COUNCIL MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE SEAWELL PARK CONCEPT, AND APPROVE THE PARK BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING MORE SPECIFIC PLANS AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL 2023, MARCH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THERE WAS A TASKFORCE DEVELOPED WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON, THE PARK BOARD, THE NAVAL MUSEUM.
THE TASKFORCE INCLUDES JASON HART CASTLE, MYSELF, RYAN ABIGAIL,
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TAMMY ROBUOT, BRIAN MAXWELL, DAN BUCKLEY, KELLY BICHON, MARTY FLUKE, VINCE MORPHEUS, AND CHARLES WILLIE.I'M GOING TO TURN OVER TO JASON PARK CASTLE TO GIVE US SOME UPDATES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILMAN BOUVIER, AND THANK YOU MAYOR.
HAPPY TO BE BACK, AND TO REPORT ON UPDATES THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
IT IS A LITTLE HEAVY ON SOME OF THE COMPONENTS, AND IT'S LIGHT ON OTHERS JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO PRIORITIZE SOME OF THE PROJECTS OVER THE OTHER ONES TO GET READY FOR OUR UPDATE TODAY.
THE REASON IS JUST BECAUSE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON HAVE A LARGER FOOTPRINT, MORE OF A REVENUE POTENTIAL AS WELL AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED, AND WE WERE ENCOURAGED TO PURSUE AT OUR JOINT MEETING IN NOVEMBER, AND AT YOUR REGULAR MEETING IN DECEMBER AS WELL.
WE WANT TO, AS A REMINDER, PRESERVE THE CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS AREA AND ENHANCE THOSE AS WELL.
LOOK AT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS FOR THE FACILITY, AND ALSO PROVIDE VALUE TO RESIDENTS.
THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT IS A COMMON THEME THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NEEDING TO ENHANCE WHERE SOME OF THE ATTRACTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD UPON AS WELL OUT THERE OR SEEKING TO BUILD UPON.
THE REASON IS ONE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE RV PARK OPTION AS WELL, AND VINCE WILL GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHERE WE ARE ON IT COMING UP.
ALSO, THERE'S BEEN ENTHUSIASM ABOUT A POTENTIAL BOAT RAMP IN THE AREA TOO, AND WE SEE THOSE AT THIS POINT AS COMPLIMENTARY TO ONE ANOTHER.
OF COURSE, THE FOOTPRINT IS SOMEWHAT OF A RESTRICTION THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OUT THERE BUT IT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE AN INSURMOUNTABLE BARRIER AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE ALSO STILL EXPLORING THE MUSEUM FOR THE GALVESTON NAVAL MUSEUM AND ACTUAL STRUCTURE OUT THERE AS WELL AND WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TO REPORT ON IT JUST BECAUSE IT IS LOOKING TO BE A COMPONENT OF THE ISLAND AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK OUT SOME OF THE LARGER POTENTIAL ATTRACTIONS OUT THERE.
WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON THE WATER TAXI TOO AND THE PROOF OF CONCEPT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THAT SEEMS TO BE MORE OF AN IMMINENT IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH OUT THERE.
THEN ALSO, THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION WITH OUR TASK FORCE ON A POTENTIAL RESTAURANT FACILITY, A BIT SPACES TIED INTO THE MUSEUM AS WELL AS BAIT CAMP.
THEN WE STILL WANT TO MAINTAIN SOME TRIBUTE TO THE IMMIGRATION STATION THAT WAS ONCE HELD OUT THERE AS WELL AND THEN ALSO SOMEONE WITH THREE CHILDREN CAN HAVE A APARTMENT WITHOUT A SPLASH PAD IN THE SOUTH IN THE SUMMER AS WELL.
SO THIS IS A DIVERSE REVENUE SOURCE FOR US.
IT'S OUR HIGHEST PERFORMING PARK WITH THE PART WORD THAT WE MANAGE THE CITY PROPERTIES AS WELL.
THE REASON IS IS BECAUSE WE TAKE IN PARKING FEES, FISHING FEES, AND ALSO THE MUSEUM IS SETTING RECORD ATTENDANCE AT THIS POINT AS WELL.
WE DO HAVE A REVENUE SHARING DEAL WITH THE GALVESTON NAVALNY ZOOM OUT THERE.
WHAT WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE TODAY IS SOME NEW OPPORTUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY ON THE RV PARK AND THE BOAT RAMP AS WELL AS THE MUSEUM TOO.
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO COME HERE AND GIVE AN UPDATE.
BACK IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, WE'VE TALKED THROUGH DIFFERENT OPTIONS, DIFFERENT THINGS WE WANTED TO LOOK AT, AND OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL, THIS IS YOUR PARK.
THIS IS ONE OF YOUR ASSETS THAT THE PORK BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MANAGE, AND THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE ARE EXPLORING HIGHER AND BETTER USES FOR THAT FACILITY AND SEEK FURTHER DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL TODAY ON NEXT STEPS AND WHAT CAN WE DO.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE TASK FORCE HAS BEEN REVIEWING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, A LOT OF ANALYSIS AND DATA THAT GOES INTO IT.
I WANT TO THANK YOUR STAFF, CITY MANAGER, MAXWELL, DAN BUCKLEY, AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS, HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT TO HAVE THAT COLLABORATION AND REALLY THAT DIVERSE REVIEW OF THIS PROJECT.
WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST AND DECEMBER, WE BROUGHT THE RFI REQUEST FOR INFORMATION THAT WE WANTED TO PUT OUT ON THE STREETS, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN A PRIVATE SECTOR COMING IN AND ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTING AN RV PARK.
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WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS BACK IN JANUARY.WE DID THE FORMAL POSTING AGAIN OF MARCH.
WE DID HAVE THOSE SUBMITTALS DUE.
WE DID RECEIVE ONE SUBMITTAL THAT IS FROM LAMSON DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HERE LOCALLY.
THROUGH THAT SUBMITTAL, THEY DID OUTLINE SOME DIFFERENT TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
AGAIN, JUST TO RECALL REFRESH THIS AS AN RFI.
ONLY INFORMATION, THIS IS NOT A FORMAL BID, THIS IS NOT A FORMAL CONTRACT TERMS AND AGREEMENTS.
THIS WAS JUST IS THEIR INTERESTS, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? THEY HAVE OUTLINED A FEW DIFFERENT ITEMS WE HAVE OUTLINED HERE.
THIS WOULD BE THEY PROPOSE A 30-YEAR LAND LEASE AGREEMENT.
THEY SUBMITTED A 8.5% OF REVENUE SHARE OF GROSS REVENUES.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN FIT IT 44 SPACES.
WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST TIME, WE TALKED ABOUT 36 SPACES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AS PART OF OUR SELF PERFORMANCE.
THEY HAVEN'T ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST OF $1.5 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION VALUE, AND THIS WOULD BE JUST LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, A LIMITED SERVICE WHERE THERE WOULD NOT BE WASTEWATER ON SITE, AND AS MR. HART COUNSEL TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, WE LACKED THE ABILITY THERE TODAY.
THEY WOULD HAVE WATER AND ELECTRIC, BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DUMP THEIR WASTE AT THAT PARK AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE AN OFFSITE DUMP STATION TO ACCOMMODATE THAT NEED.
I WENT THROUGH THE FINANCIALS, WE DID SOME ANALYSIS AS TASK FORCE REPORTED BACK.
WE WANTED TO USE A VERY SIMILAR APPROACH THAT WE SHARED AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE THE CASH POSITION FROM THAT REVENUE SHARE? WE WENT THROUGH AN ANALYSIS WHERE WE DID A REVENUES BASED OFF OF A 70% OCCUPANCY RATE, AS YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND, JUST LIKE A HOTEL, YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS SO ON EVERY SINGLE ROOM, RV PARKING, NOT ALWAYS SOUND EVERY SINGLE PARKING SPACE.
WE DID A 70% OFF $40 PER NIGHT AND 70% OFF THE $60 A NIGHT, AND THEN WE ALSO SAID, WELL, THE DEMAND HAS BEEN PRETTY HIGH.
ADELE, AN AREA THAT'S A HIGH PERFORMING PARK, WERE IN THE 90, 92% OCCUPANCY RATE.
LET'S DO AN ANALYSIS OFTEN 90%.
LOOKING AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE DURING THE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS.
ON THE LOW END OVER A 10-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, YOU WOULD SEE THROUGH THE LAND LEASE AND THROUGH THE 8.5% REVENUE SHARE, WE WOULD GET ABOUT 382,000 IN REVENUE.
ON THE HIGH END, IF WE HAVE 90% AND AT THE HIGHEST RATE OF $60 PER NIGHT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $573,000 OVER A 10-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
WHY DO WE WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD? WHY DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE A 10-YEAR TIME? WELL, WITH THAT PARK, THERE'S A MAJOR INVESTMENT WITH WASTEWATER THAT'S NEEDED.
THIS REVENUE THAT WOULD BE A DERIVED FROM AN RV PARK, THE BOAT RAMP, RESTAURANTS, OTHER PIECES COULD BE THE FUNDING SOURCE TO REINVEST BACK INTO THAT PART OVER A PHASED APPROACH AND THEN OVER COME IN 10 YEARS.
ALSO WANT TO JUST BRING BACK THE DATA SO WE CAN SEE A COMPARISON OF THE TWO OPTIONS.
THE OTHER OPTION IS THAT WE SELF-PERFORM.
PUT PARK BOARD, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS PARK BOARD CITY, THE IDEA THAT PARK WILL TAKE THE THE INVESTMENT.
PARK BOARD IS IN POSITION WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THE INVESTMENT ITSELF, AND THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH AND DO THE LIMITED SERVICE RV PARK, AGAIN WITH WATER ELECTRIC, GARBAGE SERVICE, BUT NO WASTEWATER BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S NO WASTEWATER FACILITIES TO HANDLE THAT.
HOWEVER, IN BOTH CASES, WE WOULD REQUIRE A DRY PIPE SYSTEM BE INSTALLED, SO THE WASTEWATER PIPES UNDERGROUND UNDER THE PADS WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, IT'S A SIMPLE CONNECTION TO HOOK IT UP TO A WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE SHOWERS OR LAUNDRY.
SOME OF THOSE HIGHER LEVEL OF MANAGED YOU MIGHT SEE THIS IS A MORE OF A STATE PARK STYLE THAT CAN'T BE EXPERIENCED HERE.
WHAT WAS REALLY GOOD ABOUT TO PROPOSE THAT WE RECEIVED A DEGREE OF US IN CONFIRMATION ON FEW THINGS.
OUR ORIGINAL ANALYSIS SHOWED ABOUT $1.2 MILLION CAPITAL COSTS, WHICH WE ALSO HAD ABOUT A $200,000 CONTINGENCY.
THE THIRD PARTY PRIVATE SECTOR SAID ABOUT 1.5 MILLION CONSTRUCTION VALUE.
WE'RE RIGHT THERE TOGETHER TO THE SAME OVERALL CONSTRUCTION VALUE.
REAFFIRMS OUR ESTIMATE AT THIS TIME.
WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE ANALYSIS BE PERFORMED ON IF WE WERE TO SELF-PERFORM VERSUS THIRD PARTY, YOU CAN SEE IT BRINGS IN ABOUT A $3 MILLION VERSUS $500,000 SURPLUS.
AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT SAME FORM ESAU EARLIER, 70% VERSUS 90% OCCUPANCY RATE,
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YOU SEE ON THE HIGH-END WE'RE AT 2.9 ON THE LOW END OF ABOUT $2 MILLION WORTH OF SURPLUS AFTER A 10-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT IS THAT IS YOUR FUNDING MECHANISM OR POTENTIALLY THIS THIS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND THOUGHTS ON THIS.
BUT THIS IS A FUNDING STREAMS THAT COULD USE TO PAY FOR A WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
>> FORGIVE ME. THIS IS IF WE DO IT OURSELVES?
>> CORRECT. AGAIN, IF WE GO BACK, THESE ARE THE OPTIONS REALLY HIGH AND THE LOW, THE LOW BEING 382, THE HIGH BEING 573,000 OVER A 10-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
GOING BACK HERE, THE LOW BEING ABOUT TWO MILLION AND THE HIGH AND ABOUT $3 MILLION.
>> YOU HAD ONE PERSON RESPOND TO THE RFI.
HOW WAS THAT A PROOF-OF-CONCEPT?
>> WELL, A GREAT QUESTION AND I BELIEVE I CAN ADDRESS LITTLE BIT.
IF MR. MAXWELL WANTS TO JUMP IN SINCE HE'S BEEN PART OF THE TASK ONCE WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION ON THAT.
ONE OF THE PIECES OF THIS, THE MIDDLE, WAS THAT BECAUSE THIS INDIVIDUAL COMPANY IS IN THE PROCESS OF OPENING UP A NEW RV PARK, THE ABILITY TO CROSS MARKET AND CROSS MANAGED BETWEEN A LARGER FACILITY AND THE SMALLER FACILITY ALLOWS THEM TO ACTUALLY INVEST IN A SMALLER FACILITY AS WILL PARK.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT MYSELF PERFORMING WHEN WE DID OUR ANALYSIS BY HAVING DELTA NARROW UNDERNEATH THE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OF HAVING BOTH, YOU CAN USE YOUR MANAGEMENT OF DELTA NARROW YOUR MARKETING EFFORTS, YOUR SOFTWARES TO HELP OFFSET BECAUSE NO RV PARK ON IT'S OWN BUT NEVER SURVIVAL FOR 44 SPACES.
>> ESPECIALLY WITHOUT SHOWERS.
>> YEAH. BY HAVING A SECONDARY FACILITY THAT WOULD FEED INTO IT.
YOU'RE REALLY LIMITED TO PRIVATE SECTORS THAT WOULD HAVE INTERESTS AND DEVELOPMENT AT SEAWALL PART IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE LOCAL PARKS THAT ARE IN BUSINESS TODAY.
OUT OF THE LOCAL RV PARKS IN BUSINESS TODAY, ONLY ONE OF THEM SAW THEIR ABILITY WITHIN THE INVESTMENT.
>> I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT AN RV PART WOULD BE THE BEST USE OF THAT.
THEN I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR BRIAN.
WE HAVE THAT FISHING WILDLIFE BOTH CLINICALLY, BOAT RAMP THERE, MAKE IT A PUBLIC BOAT RAMP.
>> YOU COULD, BUT THE IDEA OVER THERE IS TO GENERATE REVENUE.
IF YOU DID THE GRANT, SHE COULD NOT CHARGE ACCESS TO THE BOAT RAMP OR A PARK OR ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT HAS TO BE FREE.
>> LET ME ASK THE FOLLOWING QUESTION.
IS THIS AN EITHER OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RV PARK OR A BOAT RAMP?
>> NO. [OVERLAPPING] WELL, HANG ON.
YES AND NO. WE WOULD LIKE TO DO BOTH.
TO DO BOTH IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON, WHICH WE ARE WORKING ON. WE WOULD LIKE TO DO BOTH.
WE THINK THEY ARE HIGHLY COMPLIMENTARY.
DECISIONS THAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE IS, ONE, DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? TWO, IF YOU DO AN RV PARK, DO YOU WANT A SELF OPERATOR OR DO YOU WANT A THIRD-PARTY OPERATOR? BECAUSE THERE IS SOME FEELINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IF THE GOVERNMENT OPERATES IT, YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST PRIVATE BUSINESS, BUT IF YOU GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON IT, AND THE CITY IS GETTING A FAIR SHARE, AND WE CAN DICTATE THE RATES TO WHERE WE STAY AT MARKET AND WE DON'T UNDERCUT ANYBODY IN ALL THIS TIME.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT.
BUT A LOT OF THIS REALLY HINGES UPON OUR AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN MAKE WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE, BECAUSE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO DO BOTH, AND THERE'S ALMOST NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO DO JUST THE RV PARK.
KEEP IN MIND THAT, WITH A BOAT RAMP, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SUBMERGED WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL.
>> BRIAN, I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, JUST THROW IT OUT FOR DISCUSSION.
TALKING ABOUT IF WE HAD RAN FROM THE PORT OF HOUSTON THAT WE COULD USE THE BOAT RAMP, THAT WOULD EXPAND FOR THE BOAT RAMP.
WHAT IF WE REVERSE THAT? WHAT IF WE HAD THAT LAND FOR THE PORT OF HOUSTON TO EXPAND TO AN RV PARK?
>> IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE AGREEMENT THAT WE END UP WITH WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON.
IF IT'S A LONG-TERM LEASE AGREEMENT, PROBABLY BETTER TO PUT THINGS OVER THERE THAT AREN'T AS FULLY DEVELOPED, THINGS LIKE PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO START PUTTING PERMANENT DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE, THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A STRONGER AGREEMENT, EITHER A LEASE OR PURCHASE WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.
WE'RE A LITTLE PREMATURE ON ALL THAT RIGHT NOW.
>> I UNDERSTAND THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING ABOUT COMPETITION WITH PRIVATE INDUSTRY.
THE OTHER PLACE THAT QUESTION HAS COME UP THOUGH
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IS ABOUT COMPETING FOR A LIMITED RESOURCE.I DON'T THINK RV OR FISHING IS A LIMITED RESOURCE.
>> THAT'S ALMOST INFINITELY EXPANDABLE.
I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THAT JUST WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RV PARKS ON THE ISLAND, DELLANERA AND THE PRIVATE PARKS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
>> THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN THOUGH.
>> WHAT'S THAT? I'M SORRY. PLEASE.
>> THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN, AN RV PARK DEVELOPMENT.
>> I'M SORRY, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
>> PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER RV PARK DEVELOPMENT ON THIS ISLAND.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO DO THAT.
>> AND THE ZONING. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD.
SAME THING WITH CAR BODY SHOPS, BUT WE'RE DONE WITH DOING THOSE.
>> I LIKE WHERE ARE YOU GOING, BUT I'M JUST STEPPING IN THERE AND SAYING THAT YOU PROBABLY WILL NOT SEE ANOTHER RV PARK UNLESS IT IS A VERY LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT.
>> OKAY. THAT'S FAIR, BUT I DIDN'T MEAN NECESSARILY BUILDING OUT MORE RV PARKS.
I'M GOING TO KEEP IT FULL. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE DOING THIS, THE INDIVIDUALS WITH THE RVS COMING TO TOWN, WITH THE SEAWALL.
>> SO I WOULDN'T BE AS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ASPECT, THE COMPETITIVE ASPECT OF IT.
BUT IF I'M NOT GETTING AHEAD OF YOU HERE, THE 8.5 PERCENT SHARE, DOESN'T LEAVE A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM, $57,000 A YEAR.
THAT'S A LITTLE SHAKY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE ONE STORM DEPENDING WHAT OUR INSURANCE COSTS OR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.
THIS SORT OF THING IS, YOU CAN BE IN THE RED PRETTY QUICK DOING IT THAT WAY VERSUS DOING IT OURSELVES.
I'M SURPRISED THERE'S QUITE THAT MUCH DIFFERENTIAL IN THE PRIVATE LEASE AND DOING IT OURSELVES.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE PROVEN WE CAN DO.
DELLANERA HAS PROVEN PRETTY CONSISTENTLY THAT WE CAN RUN AN RV PARK.
AS YOU SAY, IF IT'S OVER INSURED, YOU'RE ABLE TO MARKET THE TWO TOGETHER.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
>> I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF ELEMENTS TO IT.
REMEMBER, WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS FOR INTEREST, IT'S NOT THE SET TERMS I WOULD FULLY EXPECT THE COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, PARK OR WE WOULD BE NEGOTIATING SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO I THINK IF YOU SAW A FINAL CONTRACT BEFORE YOU, YOU WOULD SEE, I THINK, A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE NUMBERS, BUT MAYBE A 10 PERCENT OR A 12 PERCENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS GREAT AS IF YOU SELF-PERFORMED.
>> WELL, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING FOUR TIMES, 4X THE MONEY HERE IF YOU DO IT YOURSELF.
>> OVER A 10-YEAR PERIOD, THAT'S STILL NOT A TREMENDOUS RETURN, IT SEEMS TO ME, FOR THE REST OF THE INVESTMENT THAT'S THERE.
>> IF YOU SEE HERE ON THE SELF-PERFORM ASPECT OF IT, AND THIS IS DUE TO A FIVE-YEAR LOAN TERM ON, WE'RE GOING TO SAY A 1.2 OR 1.4 MILLION, SO YOU HAVE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.
SO AFTER THAT FOUR YEARS AND EIGHT MONTHS ROUGHLY IS WHERE WE START MAKING ACTUALLY SURPLUS REVENUE THAT STARTS COMPOUNDING AND YOU START SEEING BUILDING UP THAT RESERVE.
OVER A 30-YEAR TERM, IF YOU TAKE THE TERMS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE RFI, YOU WOULD SEE THIS NUMBER BE THREE TIMES GREATER.
ACTUALLY, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, YOU LOSE SOME OF THAT UPFRONT CAPITAL.
>> SO OVER A LIFE CYCLE, IT IS GREATER THAN ONE.
>> I WOULD ALSO JUST POINT OUT, WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT, CENTRAL OF AN RV PARK, IF IT FITS.
IT SEEMS A GREAT FIT, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE US INTO A COMPARISON TO THAT IN A FISHING, THE BOAT RAMP AND THE PARKING?
>> TODAY, WE BROUGHT FOR JUST THE RV PARK ASPECT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS DIRECTED ON ME LAST TIME.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IS OUR NEXT STEPS.
OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE THE COMPONENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETE., THE FORMAL ASPECT LAST TIME WAS THE RFI FOR THE RV PARK AND REPORT BACK ON THE FINDINGS.
THE NEXT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO AS A TASK FORCE IS TO ACTUALLY SITE PLAN.
WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY AND THE TIME TO SITE PLAN UNTIL WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE FURTHER DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL OVER, DO YOU WANT AN RV PARK? YOU DON'T WANT AN RV PARK.
DO YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF IF WE COULD DO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON TO HAVE A BOAT RAMP? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SAID IT, THE IDEAL WORLD IS TO HAVE BOTH BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HELP MEET EACH OTHER, AND NOW, YOU'VE GOT DOUBLE, BECAUSE THE BOAT RAMP ITSELF PERFORMS JUST AS WELL AS SELF-PERFORMING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCIALS [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. LET'S ASSUME, LET'S BE OPTIMISTIC AND SAY WE CAN WORK OUT THIS DEAL WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A GREAT DEAL OF LAND, ESPECIALLY NOT A GREAT DEAL OF USABLE LAND, BUT YOU HAVE INVESTMENT THERE TOO, YOU HAVE SOME UPFRONT CAPITAL COSTS WITH THE BOAT RAMP AND SO FORTH.
BUT OVER THE LONG HAUL, IF YOU COULD DO BOTH IN THEIR COMPLIMENTARY, THAT'S PROBABLY POSITIVE.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF YOU DO ONE OR THE OTHER, AND THEY'RE ANYWHERE CLOSE, YOUR UPFRONT COST AND YOUR MAINTENANCE COST LONG TERM,
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THE ADVANTAGE WOULD BE DEFINITELY TO THE FISHING COMMUNITY.>> YES. I THINK THERE'S ABSOLUTELY THAT.
THE UPFRONT COST OF THE BOAT RAMP BASED OFF OF SOME OF OUR PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT GREATER BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF WATER AND THE DREDGING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PLACE AROUND SEAWOLF, AROUND WHERE WE WOULD THINK YOU WOULD GO IN.
YOU ONLY HAVE ABOUT 2-3 FOOT OF WATER.
YOU ALWAYS SEE THE FISHERMEN OUT OF THEIR WEIGHING IN.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LAW TO THAT PROFILE OR REGULATORY ITEMS. SO THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, YOU'RE A COUPLE YEARS OUT TO BE ABLE TO REALLY GO TOWARDS THAT PROGRAM.
IT'S A GREAT IDEA, IT WOULD BE OF GREAT SERVICE.
[INAUDIBLE] THE BOATS RIGHT STRAIGHT TO THE WATER WHERE THE FISHING'S GREAT WOULD BE AMAZING.
SO I THINK IDEALLY, IT'S REALLY TRYING TO PLAN OUT DOING BOTH AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
>> WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS, MARIE AND THEN WILLIAM.
>> ISN'T THERE CURRENTLY A LAWSUIT IN REFERENCE TO THE RV PARK?
>> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TOO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THE RV IS MOST SHOVEL-READY, IT'S READY TO GET IN, IN THE GROUND GENERATING REVENUE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THE BOAT RAMP, WE JUST DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE YET TO PROVIDE, SUCH AS THE DREDGING NECESSARY IN THE WETLAND RECLAMATION.
THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE NECESSARY AS WELL.
>> I GUESS EVERYBODY IS IN THE ROOM.
WHAT WOULD LET'S SAY WE GET THIS COUNCIL THIS DIRECTION.
HE STARTED PUTTING SHOVELS IN THE GROUND.
WHAT WOULD A NEW PELICAN ISLAND BRIDGE IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS DO OR TOWARDS THE END OF A DEVELOPMENT?
>> WELL, IT WON'T GET ANY WORSE THAN IT IS NOW.
BECAUSE CURRENT BRIDGE WOULD STAY INTACT.
>> HOLD UP. LETS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LOGISTICS ON THESE NUMBERS.
>> BUT WITH THE NEW BRIDGE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GREATER NUMBERS [OVERLAPPING].
>> DURING THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IT WOULD TAKE?
>> YEAH. BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE OLD BRIDGE.
>> TO ME YOUR BIGGEST QUESTION HERE IS THAT IS THIS DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO AND I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO WHO YOU WANT TO MANAGE IT.
IF YOU WANT ME, YOU HAVE THREE CHOICES.
THIRD-PARTY CAN MANAGEMENT, BUT THE CITY COULD MANAGE, SO YOU HAVE THOSE OPTIONS AND ALL ALL OF YOUR OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.
>> WITHOUT WASTEWATER TREATMENT ONTO APART AND HE SAID IT WAS DUMPING.
WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT.
>> LET ME PAINT YOU A PICTURE.
BASICALLY, IF YOU GO TO THE STATE PARK HERE IN GALVESTON, AT LEAST.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S A CENTRALIZED DEVASTATION WHERE THE ARBS PULL UP AND DUMP.
>> THERE'S GOING TO BE DUMP STATION HERE AT THE PARK?
>> THERE COULD BE OR THERE COULD BE ONE DOWN THE WAY.
THAT'S ALL PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO ANY TYPE OF AEROBIC SYSTEM, WE NEED SOME FIELD LINES AND SOME SPACE.
IF WE BUILD OUT EVERY SQUARE INCH TO SEE WELL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
EVEN IT'S EASY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PORT USE PARTICIPATION TO DO THE BOAT RAMP.
YOU ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE SOME PARTICIPATION FOR THEM IN ORDER TO DO THE RV PARK TOO.
>> I MEAN, ARE THESE NUMBERS BASED ON JUST A DRY CAMPGROUND?
>> YES. I MEAN, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HERE IS THAT THIS WOULD JUST BE DRY.
THERE WOULDN'T BE A DUMP STATION.
>> THERE HAVE TO BE A DUMP STATION. THERE HAS TO BE.
>> OR AN OFFSITE DUMP STATION.
SOMEPLACE WHETHER IT'S A PRIVATE SECTOR OR A PUBLIC FACILITY, THERE ARE FULLY AUTOMATED DUMP STATIONS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE EXPECT I HAVEN'T WORN OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY CLOSER TO TEXAS A&M.
WHERE ACTUALLY PEOPLE CAN PULL OUT GO DUMP THEIR RVS OUT TO THEIR WASTE.
IT CAN BE AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM THAT YOU USE A CREDIT CARD OR A COIN.
>> BUT THAT HAS REALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RV SITE.
>> ABSOLUTELY IT DOES. YOU HAVE TO A DEAL.
WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY A DUMP SITE LOCATION.
OR YOU YOU REALLY I MEAN, YOU CAN'T [OVERLAPPING] PUT AN RV PARK WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF WAY FOR THEM TO RELIEVED OR SERVICES.
>> I WOULD BE HARD. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
IF YOU DON'T OFFER THIS SERVICE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HUGE MESS OVER THERE AS WELL.
>> BUT THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
>> I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT THOUGH.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SITTING THE NUMBER [OVERLAPPING] DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT REQUIREMENT.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S SMART TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PROVIDING SERVICE TO YOUR CAMPUS, YOU SHOULD TELL THEM WHERE THEY CAN LEGALLY DUMP THEIR 4 FEET.
BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL PUTTING IN THE RV.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.
>> I DON'T THINK ALLYSHIP [OVERLAPPING] CAN IDENTIFY THAT LOCATION.
I DON T THINK YOU CAN DEVELOP THE RV PARK.
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>> I THINK JOHN'S PROBABLY RIGHT.
I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SOME AMENITY LIKE THAT OVER THERE. YEAH.
>> THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, WE HAVE TO LOOK OUR RULES [OVERLAPPING].
WE NEED TO BE AMENDING OUR RULES.
>> THE STATE PARK. DO THEY HAVE A DUMP SITE?
>> YES THEY DO. THEY HAVE ONE ON SITE.
AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY HOOKED UP TO THE SEWER SYSTEM, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE SEWER AT EACH INDIVIDUAL SITE THEY HAVE TWO DUMP STATION ON SITE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THINK THEY'VE PUT IN SHOWERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS WHEN THEY DID THE UPGRADE.
>> BUT TO AND DISCUSSION OF THE REVENUE SHARE.
JASON, YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU HAVE A REVENUE SHARE NOW WITH THE MUSEUM WHAT DOES THAT PRESENT AND HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> I DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE SHARE THAT WE HAVE WITH COMMODITY HISTORIC FOUNDATION.
SHOW IT TO YOU WITHOUT YOU SHOULD BE.
>> RIGHT. AND EVENTS AS GOT IT.
>> GENTLEMEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT? A SIT DOWN.
>> UNLESS YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH ME STANDING [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> A PARK BOARD DOES HAVE A FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH THE FOUNDATION AND PART OF THAT IS BASED OFF OF THEIR REVENUES.
IT'S A NOMINAL PORTION, BUT IT'S A PORTION OF THEIR GATE CELLS.
WHEN THEY SELL ADMISSION ONTO THE MUSEUM PROPERTY, THERE'S A MONTHLY CHECK GOES BACK TO THE REVENUE OF THE CIVIL PARK.
>> I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT PERCENTAGE, BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT THAT 10%.
>> THAT SOUNDS A LOT TO ME BECAUSE WE'RE GRABBING THE PARKING IN THE DIVISION OF REVENUES WHEN PEOPLE COME TO VISIT THE PARK.
WE'RE GRABBING THE PARKING FEES, THEY'RE GRABBING THE ENTRANCE FEES INTO THE MUSEUM, AND THEN WE GRAB A PORTION OF THEM, 10% SOUNDS LOW TO ME, BUT I CAN TEXT BRYSON AND ASK HIM RIGHT NOW.
>> VINCENT JASON, WON'T YOU GO TO YOUR LAST SLIDE AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT.
>> THIS IS AT YOUR LAST SLIDE.
>> YEAH. THIS IS THE LAST ONE OF YESTERDAY.
OKAY. I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ON THIS.
IF COUNCIL GIVES YOU A GUIDANCE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SITE PLAN, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WHO DEVELOPS THAT SITE PLAN? WILL YOU WORK WITH THIS TASK FORCE WHERE BRIAN AND DAN AND THE CITY ARE INVOLVED TO HELP PUT THEM TOGETHER?
>> ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THE COUNCIL IS DRIVING THE BUS, BUT THE TASKFORCE TOO IS ON THE BUS AND GOING TO GET THE WORK DONE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL AT EACH STEP.
>> WHEN A SITE PLAN COMES, IF YOU BRING A SITE PLAN BACK INTO US, DOES THIS INVOLVE ALSO THE BOAT RAMP IN THE EXPANSION OF THE MUSEUM COMPONENT OF THIS?
>> GREAT QUESTION, IF I CAN ADDRESS THIS ONE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DESIRE.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TODAY IS IF YOU CAN GIVE US SOME DIRECTION SPECIFICALLY ON THE RV PARK BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE CURRENT SUBMITTAL AND WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATE WITH THAT PRESENTER FOR THAT SUBMITTAL.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO FURTHER EXPLORE HAVING A BRICK AND MORTAR FACILITY FOR THE MUSEUM BUILT, THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH AND START PLANNING OUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS ON THE SITE.
OBVIOUSLY, FUTURE AGREEMENTS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM A LAND LEASE, FROM A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT, THAT WILL ALL BE SEPARATE.
WE ARE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GO TO THAT KIND OF 60,000 FOOT LEVEL, LOOKING DOWN AT THE PARK, WE CAN SEE WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT EVERYTHING? WHAT HAS THE BEST FLOW? WHERE DOES EVERYTHING WORK? SO WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SITE MASTER PLAN.
AS FAR AS THE BOAT RAMP, I WOULD HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO EXPLORE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT SERVICE.
WE COMPLIMENT WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE? I THINK THAT THAT IS REALLY IF WE COULD GET SOME DIRECTION TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THAT.
ONCE MR. MAXWELL CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON PORT HOUSTON TO THE TASK FORCE AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO FURTHER EXPLORE WHAT THAT MIGHT BE.
AGAIN, ARE WE TALKING AN ACRE OF PROPERTY OR WE'RE TALKING SEVERAL ACRES OF PROPERTY FOR A BOAT RAMP.
THEN WE CAN REALLY PUT THE LOGISTICS TOGETHER BEHIND WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL ITEMS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, WHAT DREDGING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND THEN WE CAN PUT AN UPDATED COST ANALYSIS TOGETHER FOR THAT BOAT RAMP AND BRING THAT BACK.
>> WHAT'S THE SITE PLAN? WHAT ARE YOU ESTIMATING THE COST OF THE SITE PLAN?
>> ESTIMATING THE COST OF THE SITE PLAN.
>> THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT A LOT OF THE MASTER PLAN PIECES TOGETHER, WE'RE LOOKING AT UNDER ABOUT $8,000 IS WHAT WE'VE HAD SOME CONCEPTUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR ARCHITECT ON.
>> DON, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> I HATE TO BUST UP THE GRADE PARTY, BUT THE AGENDA ITEM, IT SAYS UPDATE FROM PARK BOARD ON SHE WOLF AND STUART BEACH.
MOVING FROM THAT BROAD TO DISCUSSION OF SPECIFIC TOPICS IS A BIT OF A REACH.
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>> WELL, THEN PERHAPS WE SHOULD KICK IT BACK TO THE TASK FORCE FOR NEXT STEPS.
>> BUT YOU MENTIONED THE BRICK AND MORTAR MUSEUM AND SO FORTH.
WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT OUR INVESTMENT IN THAT.
SECOND, BECAUSE THAT IS THE ISSUE.
BUT EVEN IF YOU DO THAT, DON'T YOU STILL HAVE A WATER AND SEWER PROBLEM?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. EVEN IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK WITH BRIAN ABIGAIL RIGHT NOW AND HE'S STAYING THERE ON THE VERGE OF HAVING A WATER AND SEWER PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED ATTENDANCE OUT THERE IN PEAK SUMMER MONTHS.
>> NO MATTER WHAT WE DO IF WE JUST CONTINUE TO GROW AS IT CURRENTLY SITS.
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM WHEN LATE.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE HIS BIGGEST CONCERN AS AN ATTRACTION IS HIS GUESTS COMING OUT AND BEING UNCOMFORTABLE WITH RESTROOM OPTIONS, BEING UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GET FOOD OR DRINK OR ANYTHING OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN THE HEAT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING I WOULD ASSUME IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE TASK FORCE WE HAD IN OUR LAST CONVERSATION TWO WEEKS AGO, AND I'M ACTUALLY DRAFTING THE DOCUMENT RIGHT NOW.
I HOPE TO HAVE IT TO THE TASKFORCE NEXT WEEK.
NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS FOR A PHASED APPROACH, WE NEED TO START MAKING MONEY SO WE CAN REINVEST BACK INTO THE PARK.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW IS A FOUR STEP, A PHASE PLAN OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU PUT THE CARD FRONT PORCH. HOW DO YOU DO THIS? BY DOING THIS, IT TRIGGERS OTHER PIECES.
BY HAVING SOMETHING LIKE AN RV PARK THAT ALLOWS YOU TO START MAKING SOME FONTS THAT YOU CAN READ BACK, INVEST BACK INTO THE PARK TO BUILD A PROGRAM.
THEN ALSO THE BEST I CAN DO WHERE WE HAVE TWO SOURCES OF NEW REVENUE.
NOW YOU CAN REALLY BUILD THAT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BUILD A BRICK AND MORTAR FACILITY FOR MUSEUMS. IT'S ALL THIS COMPOUNDING, KIND OF PHASED APPROACH AND STUFF AND YET THE PLACE WHERE YOU.
>> I GUESS THEY DON'T QUESTION. BUT LET'S SAY THAT WE GO IN THE DIRECTION OF DOING AN RV PARK AND THEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, NOT THE BEST USE OF THAT LAND.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FOOTPRINT THEY LEFT? LIKE THE 40 SPOTS AND ALL THAT BECAUSE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT?
>> WELL, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON AGAIN, IS A SELF PERFORMER OR IS IT PERFORMED BY A SEPARATE PARTY.
THEY'RE PROPOSING A 30 YEAR AT LEAST THEY'RE GOING TO WANT A SECURED LEASE RIGHT INTO OPERATING A FACILITY.
IF THEY WERE TO WALK AWAY FROM IT, I WOULD EXPECT THERE'LL BE SOME VERBIAGE IN THE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO RESTORE IT BACK TO PRE-DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS OR THERE SHOULD BE SOME MECHANISM FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO REINFORCE THAT REMEDIATION WITH THAT.
IF IT'S PERFORMED INTERNALLY, THEN ALSO IT WOULD BE THE BURDEN OF THE PARK BOARD OF THE CITY YOU WHO MAKES THAT INVESTMENT? IF I COULD REAL QUICK, I DIDN'T GET AN UPDATE THE AGREEMENT WITH CHF TODAY, THERE'S A $7,500 IN OUR BASE AND THEN THERE'S A 10% OF REVENUES.
>> SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR RENT PER MONTH IN THE SUMMER PLUS 10% OF REVENUES.
>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT RESOLUTION WOULD PROBABLY BE WRITTEN INTO AN AGREED JUDGMENT FOR HAVING BREACHED THE CONTRACT.
>> I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO PROOF OF CONCEPT.
IT STILL BOTHERS ME THAT ONLY ONE PERSON BID ON IT BECAUSE IF IT IS SUCH A HOT IDEA, WE KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF BARBIE PARTS GOING UP BUT IT MAKES YOU WONDER WHY ONLY ONE PERSON BID ON IT.
>> FRANKLY, IT DOESN'T SHOCK ME AT ALL.
I'M ACTUALLY SHOCKED WE GOT ONE AND I'M IMPRESSED THAT WHO IT WAS WHY THEY DID WHAT THEY DID WAS BECAUSE OF THEIR RECENT INVESTMENT IN OPEN UP A NEW FACILITY RIGHT THERE AT 305 AT [INAUDIBLE] ROAD.
WHEN WE MET BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED GOING THROUGH THE CONCEPT AND REVIEW THE TASK FORCE WE HAD BROUGHT IN A DEVELOPER OF AN RB PARK HERE ON THE ISLAND.
THEY BASICALLY SAID, UNLESS YOU HAVE 120 UNITS, IT DOESN'T AND TO ALLOW [OVERLAPPING] BACK TO HAVE THE STAFFING OVERHEAD.
WITH IT BEING SUCH A SMALL FOOTPRINT AND ONLY 44 UNITS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MANAGE TO HAVE ON-SITE MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR AND COSTS OF BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO SPREAD BETWEEN THOSE 44 UNITS.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FOOTPRINT WHERE YOU HAD 150-200, YOU WOULD HAVE A BIG LINE OF THE PARTIES.
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>> IN SAYING THAT IT'S A DRY RB PARK, WE WON'T HAVE WATER?
>> YOU'LL HAVE WATER AND YOU'LL HAVE ELECTRICITY.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT.
WE CAN LOOK AT BUILDING AN ONSITE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK THAT DUMPS INTO THAT AND WE HAVE A SERVICE THAT ACTUALLY SUCKS IT OUT, SO WE GET AN ON-SITE DUMP WITHOUT HAVING A TREATMENT FACILITY.
YOU CAN HAVE THIRD PARTIES THAT COME THROUGH EVERY OTHER DAY AND LITERALLY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT IN A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT THEY CAN SUCK OUT THE WASTE, THROUGH THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES [OVERLAPPING]
LET ME PROCEDURALLY JUST GOT HIS BACK HERE.
IT'S AN UPDATE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE HERE.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WITH THE WAY THIS IS LISTED ON THE AGENDA, DO WE NEED TO COME BACK AT IT?
>> I THINK YOU NEED TO COME BACK BECAUSE ALL THIS SAYS IT'S UPDATES.
>> ALL THIS SAYS IS, SEAWOLF AND STUART BEACH UPDATES.
>> WE WANT TO UPDATE THEM ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
>> THIS IS THE QUESTION, CAN WE GIVE DIRECTION IN SOME MANNER WITH THIS UPDATE?
>> I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO A WORKSHOP THAT SPECIFIES WHAT PROJECTS YOU WOULD CONSIDER.
IF YOU ANNOUNCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE AT NEXT WORKSHOP, THAT WILL GIVE THEM A DIRECTION OF WHAT'S YOUR BOOK GOING TO BE HERE.
>> WHAT DO WE NEED AN ACTION ITEM ON THIS?
>> CAN I DO AN ACTION ITEM IN A WORKSHOP.
YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO WRITE A RESOLUTION.
IF YOU DECIDE THEY'VE GIVEN YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION.
>> WE COULD HAVE A RESOLUTION POSSIBLY BY NEXT MEETING FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT AND WORKSHOP THAT AT THAT POINT.
>> THAT IS THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL?
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PROCEDURALLY, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN THE PROPER WAY.
>> THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS SO VAGUE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T GET THEM UPDATE ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
AGAIN, THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME.
>> WHAT DO WE OPEN MEETINGS THEN? IS TO PROVIDE ENOUGH SPECIFICITY.
>> THERE'S NO SPECIFICITY AT ALL HERE.
>> WHO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA?
>> DID YOU NOT LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT?
WE'RE JUST PUSHING THIS BACK WHEN WE CAN'T DISCUSS THESE ITEMS.
>> SORRY, JOHN, I WAS WRITING A CONTRACT IT'S BACKWARD.
>> THREE O'CLOCK ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
>> GUYS, YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM ANY DIRECTION TILL WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH POOR USED.
ANYTHING YOU GIVE DIRECTION ON TO THAT IS GOING TO BE PREMATURE AND COULD JEOPARDIZE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS.
I WOULD STRONGLY ADVISE THAT WE NOT DO THAT.
>> AGAIN, WE DON'T NEED TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING THEN.
>> UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING TO AGREE UPON WITH THE OTHER WHICH WE ARE WORKING ON.
>> WHY CAN'T WE DEVELOP OUR OWN PROPERTY WITHOUT PORT OF HOUSTON?
>> NO, THE RV, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE A SPACE FOR A DUMP STATION, CRAIG?
>> WE HAVE A SEWER FACILITY HERE IN DALLAS AND IF WE OWN THE DUMPS STATION SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE ISLAND, WE COULD PROVIDE THAT.
>> WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PULL IN 40 FOOT LONG RVS AND DUMP THEM.
WE COULD CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> HAVE YOU EVER PULLED A 40 FOOT LONG RV?
>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DRIVING ONE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THESE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE DID AN AGENDA ITEM ON DRIVING RVS.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING HALF-HEARTEDLY ANYTHING.
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A COMPLETE PLAN.
THESE GUYS HAVE DONE GREAT WORK.
WE JUST GOT TO TIE THE KNOT ON THIS.
RUSHING INTO THIS IS GOING TO END UP WITH AN INCOMPLETE, POORLY DONE PRODUCT.
MIKE'S BEEN IN ALL THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS, HE COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT'S THE AGENDA ON THE MEETINGS THEN?
>> WHEN DO WE SEE AN OUTCOME IN THIS?
>> BRIAN, I DON'T THINK THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT SEAWOLF PARK WAS ON FIRE AND WE NEEDED TO DEAL WITH THIS TODAY.
IF WE'D HAVE BEEN DIRECTED THAT WAY WE WOULD HAD AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING.
>> IN OUR UPDATE, WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED AHEAD WITH LOOKING AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS.
WE WILL REPORT BACK ON THE NEXT MEETING WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION AS MUCH AS WE CAN
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ON A BOAT RAMP AND WHAT OTHER INFORMATION WE COULD FIND DUE TO DUMP STATIONS AND OTHER OPTIONS WE CAN HAVE WITH THAT.>> TO YOUR POINT, THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT UPDATE, GOOD INFORMATION.
I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH MATERIAL HERE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, EVEN IF WE WERE AT THAT STAGE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IN THE TASKFORCE TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
MR. MAXWELL, CONTINUE WORKING ON THE ISSUE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
>> LET ME ASK YOU. THIS TASKFORCE, CAN THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH BRINGING A SITE PLAN BACK?
>> YEAH, YOU COULDN'T DO THAT.
>> IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WANT.
>> WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING.
THIS TASKFORCE DAN AND THESE GENTLEMEN HERE ARE AT A STANDSTILL UNTIL THEY COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND GET A CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO GO.
DO WE NEED AN ACTION ITEM FOR THAT? DAN, THAT'S A QUESTION.
>> I THINK YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION.
IF YOU WISH TO PUT A RESOLUTION ON NEXT MEETING YOU COULD DO THAT.
>> DAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT GIVING THEM GUIDANCE ON THE NEXT STEP FORWARD TILL WE BRING BACK MORE INFORMATION TO COUNCIL.
WE DON'T NEED NECESSARILY AN ACTION ITEM ON THAT.
WE NEED AN ITEM ON THE WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THAT AND GIVE DIRECTION.
>> MAY I INTERJECT? I'M NOT SURE THAT WAS THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. THIS IS AN UPDATE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE CERTAIN NECESSARILY ASKING FOR DIRECTIONS.
THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR NEXT STEPS NEED TO BE AND YOU'RE WORKING IN THE TASK FORCE. DO YOU DISAGREE?
>> I DISAGREE BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN IN HERE ON THE THING, OUR NEXT STEPS.
OVER THE OVERVIEW WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT THERE ON THE [OVERLAPPING] THIRD IS THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION.
I GUESS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS ARE WE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SEE MORE OF OR, "NO, WE DON'T WANT THIS, FIND SOMETHING ELSE." I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.
>> I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE].
I SUPPOSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
YOU GUYS ARE WASTING OUR TIME.
THIS IS NOT AT ALL WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.
THEN WE CAN PULL THE RINGS BACK AND START OVER SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT IF WE HAVEN'T, SO FAR IT SEEMS SATISFACTORY FOR US TO CONTINUE.
>> YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MORE INFORMATION.
>> I'D LOVE TO SEE YOUR FACES AGAIN IN THE NEXT MEETING.
>> WITH THE RV AREA, HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT THAT WAS PROPOSED, AND JUST THE RV AREA?
>> I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, I BELIEVE IT'S JUST OVER THREE ACRES OF SPACE.
>> I THINK AN RV NEEDS A MINIMUM OF FIVE ACRES, IS THAT RIGHT? NO?
>> YOU COULD CONSIDER THE WHOLE PARK, I THINK AS PART OF THE ACREAGE.
>> COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS [INAUDIBLE] THIS MIGHT BE A DUMB QUESTION.
BUT CAN YOU DO A SITE PLAN BASED ON THE POSSIBILITY OF THE EXTRA LAND FROM THE PORT [INAUDIBLE]
>> I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE GOING FURTHER THAN WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO IN THE NEGOTIATION.
>> WE'VE STILL GOT [INAUDIBLE] TO GO.
>> WELL, SPEAKING OF UPDATES, LET'S MOVE TO THE UPDATE OF STEWARD BEACH.
>> STEWARD BEACH, WE DID AN RFQ.
WE WENT OUT THERE, WE RECEIVED TWO, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO VINCE SO HE CAN EXPLAIN THE LOGISTICS OF THE RFQ AND GO FROM THERE.
>> JEFFREY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.
WHEN WE WERE HERE BACK IN DECEMBER, WE HAD THE FORMAL REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR A MASTER DEVELOPER.
AS YOU RECALL, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS PROCESS, A YEAR-AND-A-HALF BEFORE.
IN THAT PROCESS, WE HAD DONE A NATIONWIDE SEARCH, NARROWED IT DOWN THERE WERE THREE FINALISTS.
THOSE FINALISTS WERE BROUGHT FORWARDS IN PROPOSALS.
OUT OF THOSE THREE FINALISTS, TWO OF THEM ARE BACK AT THE TABLE AND ACTUALLY BROUGHT FORWARD A PROPOSAL.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE PROPOSALS ARE.
AGAIN TODAY IS AN UPDATE WITH A CONSENSUS WHERE WE'RE AT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THOSE NEXT STEPS.
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I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT WE'RE DOING, THIS IS A PROCESS.WE MATCH DEVELOPER AND THEY JUST RETURN OUR BACKS AND THEY JUST RUN THIS AS A VERY INCLUSIVE PROCESS BETWEEN STAKEHOLDERS, THE CITIES, THE PARK FOR SPEECH PATROL, NEIGHBORS OF THE PROPERTY AND JUS AS A WHOLE.
THIS IS THE ICONIC BEACH PARK.
THIS IS A MAJOR LOCATION WITHIN GALVESTON, AND WE DIDN'T MAKE SURE THAT WHEN IT GETS DEVELOPED AGAINST ADULT CORRECTLY.
THIS WOULD BE A LATE-DEED PROCESS TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND WHAT SERVICES THE PUBLIC OVERALL.
WHAT'S YOUR BEACH USED TO LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S HOW BIG IS FAR MEMORIES OF THE OLD IMPROVEMENTS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S THERE TODAY.
I LOVED MY MOBILE MENU PROJECT, AND I LOVE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
MAN, I'LL TELL YOU IT'S JUST NOTHING.
[LAUGHTER] NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO SAY IT, IT'S JUST NOT COOL.
WE REALLY HOPE TO MOVE FORWARD IN DEVELOPING STUART BEACH INTO THAT MAJOR DESTINATION.
AGAIN, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING BACK AND SEVERAL ITEMS. JUST LIKE SEAWORLD PARK.
THIS ISN'T A ONE AND DONE THE COUNCIL, IT'S A VERY INVOLVED PROCESS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING BACK A LOT OF ITEMS, ALOT OF UPDATES, LOT OF FURTHER DIRECTIONS, AND THEN EVENTUALLY GETS TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE FORMAL AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD BE WORKED THROUGH YOUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, YOUR LEGAL AND THEN FOR EXECUTION AT A LATER POINT.
ON THE RFQ, WE DID ONLY HAVE TWO SUBMITTALS.
WE DID DO THE PHONE POSTING ALL OF OUR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
ANYTIME YOU PUT A BID OUT, AGAIN, YOU TEND TO GET A LITTLE BIT LOWER RESPONSE BECAUSE YOU START TO GET THE INDUSTRIES THAT SEE AND, MAYBE THEY WEREN'T SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN LAST ROUND.
THIS ROUND AGAIN, AS WE SAID, WE HAD TWO PROPOSALS.
THEY WERE TWO OF THE THREE FINALISTS FROM LAST TIME.
I DO WANT TO GIVE SOME OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS HERE.
THIS WOULD BE WE DO NEED TO TAKE SOME ACTION FROM THE PARK BOARD WHO ISSUED THE RFQ AND IT'S THE DIRECTION YOU GET SOME THOUGHTS FROM COUNCIL AND SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE AT A FUTURE AGENDA FOR THAT FORMAL ACTION.
IN R2 SUBMITTALS, WE DID HAVE A MANDATORY CREASE THE MIDDLE MEETINGS BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CHANGES TO THE FORMAT REALLY PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THAT MASTER DEVELOPMENT.
A MANDATORY BREATHS MIDDLE MEETING IS REALLY WHERE WE GO OVER THE BID GO THROUGH, TALK THROUGH STUFF.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FORMAL WRITTEN QUESTIONS.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FORMAL WRITTEN QUESTIONS FROM ANY SUBMITTER.
MANDATORY MEETINGS ARE A THING THAT IS HISTORICALLY ALWAYS HAPPEN.
IN RECENT PROCUREMENT WORLD IT'S A GIVE OR TAKE IS NOT A NECESSITY.
WE DID SPECIFY THAT A MANDATORY PRECENT MIDDLE WAS NEEDED, SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAD TO ATTEND THAT MEETING TO BE QUALIFIED TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL.
ONLY ONE FIRM ACTUALLY ATTENDED THAT CREASE, THE MIDDLE FORMAL MEETING, THAT MANDATORY MEETING.
WE DID RECEIVE A SECOND ONE AGAIN, THEY WERE ONE OF THE FINALISTS FROM LAST ROUND.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH ANY PROCUREMENT WHERE YOU CAN WAIVE THOSE RIGHTS AND YOU CAN REVIEW THAT.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE NOT FORMALLY OPENED UP.
THEY ARE SEALED PACKET BECAUSE THE BEST PRACTICE, THEY DIDN'T ATTEND, THEY DON'T CHECK THAT BOX OF MANDATORY.
WE'VE NOTIFIED THEM OF THOSE CONCERNS.
THEY'VE ASKED FOR IT TO BE CONSIDERED.
HOWEVER, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
WHEN WE DID A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WE DID DIDN'T MEET THE MANDATORY MEETING AND DID SUBMIT CURSORY REVIEW, THEY MEET REQUIREMENTS.
BUT UNTIL WE HAVE SOME FORMAL DIRECTION, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE FORMAL, I CALL IT MY TECHNICAL REVIEW, LOOKING AT THE PROPOSAL DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE RFQ.
WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT THOROUGH REVIEW.
THAT WILL BE DONE THROUGH INTERNAL STAFF.
CITY STAFF HAVE TO BE PART OF THAT.
WHEN WE BRING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION, BUT REALLY WE NEED TO SEE FROM COUNCIL, YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER THE ONE THAT DID NOT ATTEND A MANDATORY MEETING OR NOT.
OBVIOUSLY, AS WE GO THROUGH THAT, THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
ONCE WE SELECT A FIRM TO DO THAT MASTER PLAN AND MASTER DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD GO THROUGH A VERY FORMAL PROCESS, LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WE WOULD HOPE THERE'LL BE A TASK FORCE, EITHER THE OLD ONE OR REVISE ONE THAT WOULD COME FORWARD TO REALLY WORK TOGETHER AND BRING FORWARD.
HERE'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
HERE'S SOME IDEAS, AND REALLY START FLUSHING THROUGH WHAT THAT CONCEPT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
I THINK, JUST TO SET EXPECTATIONS,
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THERE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A PUBLIC COMPONENT TO ANY DEVELOPMENT AND OUR PRIVATE COMPONENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF STUART EACH.AND THAT'S USUALLY HOW THOSE THOSE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WORK IN A PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT LIKES TO REPEAT.
I EXPECT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MEETINGS, A LOT OF REVIEW, AND A LOT OF BACK-AND-FORTH AND DIFFERENT PIECES.
ULTIMATELY, WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE COUNCIL SAYS THIS IS EXACTLY THE VISION WOULD WANT, AND THEN IT'S CITY STAFF PART BORDERS.
HOWEVER, THAT INSTRUCTORS DON'T LOOK LIKE TO HELP REALLY NEGOTIATE OUT WHAT THOSE CONTRACT TERMS, CONDITIONS, LAMB LEASE AND REVENUE SHARES, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS.
ONCE A PROJECT VISION IS [INAUDIBLE].
AND THEN THE FUN PART, THEN WE GO TO CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN WE START GIVING YOU WANT THE BEACH, WHICH IS WRITE OUR MAIN GOAL.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>> ARE YOU FOLLOWING THE SAME PROTOCOL YOU ARE ON SEAWORLD? ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE TASK FORCE AND CITY ON THIS?
>> [INAUDIBLE] ON THE CITY BEACH TASK FORCE.
>> THERE'S NOT SEAWORLD BEACH TASKFORCE.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR HOPES [INAUDIBLE].
>> YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH CITY-STATES.
>> WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT. WE JUST NEED TO.
>> I ENVISIONED I GUESS THAT WAS ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT WHAT CITY COUNCIL WANT TO LOOK AS THAT TASK FORCE BECAUSE THERE IS A BIGGER MONSTER.
HOW DO YOU WANT TO COMPOSE THAT TASK FORCE? MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THE CITY OF GALVESTON, THE PARK BOARD, SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE KNOWLEDGE OF CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN IS THERE A PRIVATE OR PUBLIC FIGURE INVOLVED IN THAT?
>> ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK WHO'S THE BIDDERS OR WHO'S SUBMITTED?
>> I CAN PROVIDE THAT PROBABLY THROUGH AN UPDATE.
I DON'T HAVE THE NAMES IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW AND I DO APOLOGIZE.
>> I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE. I'M SORRY.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAGE THEY'RE AT, SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO ANSWER.
I WOULD NOTE THAT IF YOU EVER HAD A MANDATORY PRE-SUBMITTED MEETING AND THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP IN OBEDIENCE WITH YOUR RULES.
I FEAR WHERE PEOPLE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET PRE-QUALIFIED AND THEN PRE-QUALIFY THEM AFTER THE FACT.
BUT IT WOULDN'T BE INTERESTING TO SAY WHO HE IS.
>> WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS UPDATE HERE.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
>> I WILL SAY IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THESE GUYS IN THIS TASK FORCE.
MIKE AND JASON HAD BEEN AT EVERY MEETING AS AS DENSE, OF COURSE HAS BEEN HEADED UP.
WE SHOULD REPLICATE THIS WORK GROUP ON A LOT OF THINGS BECAUSE IT WORKS REALLY WELL. [NOISE].
>> I'M GOING TO START PASSAGE, WISDOM OF TRANSCENDENCE.
>> YOU USUALLY HAVE TO GO HOME.
>> I WON'T GET ANY COMPLEMENT.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I WANT TO KNOW THE DIRECTION OF WHERE WE'RE HEADING WITH THIS.
DO WE NEED TO BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL OR CLEAR DIRECTION TO GIVE THESE GENTLEMEN?
>> LET'S DO THIS. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE TASK FORCE CAN BE AS AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE THERE ARE 100 PERCENT IN THE KNOW OF WHERE WE ARE WITH PELICAN ISLAND, GIVE US SOME TIME BECAUSE WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED ONE PART OF THE PELICAN ISLAND DEAL ALREADY, BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD WITH THAT AND THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN A DIFFERENT SETTING.
>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN SENSITIVE TO IT AS WELL.
WE'RE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO OVERSTEP.
>> VERY GOOD. I'M CAUGHT HIM JOHN'S PANEL ON THIS.
I WANT TO MOVE THIS THING FOR UNFORTUNATELY, WE MAY BE TODAY NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE CLEAR CUT DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DID THIS, WHEN THEY HAD THE MEETING.
IF WE FOLLOW THAT PLAN THAT YOU MENTIONED BRIAN, WHEN DO THEY COME BACK? WHEN DO WE NEED TO GIVE THIS BACK?
>> CRAIG, THAT'S A BIG MONSTER WERE MOVING.
WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME.
WE'RE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN ON OUR END.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE COMMITMENTS TO YOU GUYS AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW.
>> ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFICALLY THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS IN DECEMBER SPECIFICALLY WANTED US HERE TODAY, SO WE JUST DIDN'T WANT ANYONE AT COUNCIL.
I THINK THAT WE'D BEEN IDLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR DIDN'T HAVE ANY UPDATES AT ALL.
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I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING ON THIS.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO FUTURE DISCUSSIONS COMING UP HERE SHORTLY ON THIS, GUYS.
>> WELL, CANAL. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3E, PLEASE.
[3.E. Discussion Of The Structure And Mission Of The Redevelopment Authority / Galveston Housing Finance Corporation And Authority (Brown - 20 Min) 1. GHFC/GPFA Proposed Experimental Program for Property Acquisition and Development]
>> 3E. DISCUSSION OF THE STRUCTURE ADMISSION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AUTHORITIES PROPOSED EXPERIMENTAL PROGRAM FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING TO TAKE THE POSITION I'M GOING TO CALL UP MS. LIGHTFOOT, MR. BEST, DEAN AND MICHELLE, HEY, COULD YOU COME FORWARD AND SIT AROUND THE TABLE HERE?
>> [BACKGROUND] IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> NICE TO SEE YOU TOO. [BACKGROUND]
>> DO WE HAVE ANOTHER CHAIR? [BACKGROUND]
>> THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC BEFORE US.
WE DISCUSSED THIS IN AROUND THE EDGES IN THE PAST YEAR'S COUNCIL.
WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS OPEN THIS DISCUSSION UP.
>> MR. BERNSTEIN [NOISE] COME ON OVER.
I'D LIKE TO OPEN THIS DISCUSSION UP.
COUNCIL WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO SO THAT WE HOPEFULLY CAN ZERO IN IN THE POINTS THAT WE NEED TO REALLY HAVE INPUT ON.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM DOT SO WE'VE GOT THIS ONE COVERED I THINK PROPERLY.
I THINK WE HAVE FOUR POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP TO COUNCIL AS WE GO THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION TODAY.
COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT, WE PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM WHERE WE BROUGHT THE RDA AND THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TOGETHER.
THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT SEPARATING THESE ENTITIES SO THAT THEY CAN PURSUE THEIR DUTIES SEPARATELY.
THAT IS NUMBER 1 POINT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO WEIGH IN AND GIVES THEM DIRECTION ON.
NUMBER 2, IF WE DO THAT AND WE SEPARATE THE GROUPS OUT, WHAT WOULD BE THE COMPOSITION OF THE RDA? THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT THE RDA.
IF WE SEPARATE THEM OUT BEING COMPOSED OF CITY STAFF MEMBERS AND NOT NECESSARILY APPOINTED MEMBERS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GIVE INPUT ON TODAY.
ALSO, THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND MR. BERNSTEIN AND MR. LIGHTFOOT WILL EDUCATE US MORE ON THIS AND BROUGHT FORWARD A PROPOSAL FROM THEIR GROUP ON ACQUISITION OF LAND INTO CERTAIN STRUCTURES.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW THAT AFFECTS.
THEY WOULD BE WELL-SERVED TO GET GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL HERE ON OUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
THEN THE FOURTH THING IS THIS GROUP, ESPECIALLY GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, THEY'RE USING MR. BERNSTEIN AS THEIR ATTORNEY AND I THINK THEY HAVE THEIR SEPARATE ACCOUNTING.
THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT WHEN WE COMBINE THESE GROUPS, THAT THEY WOULD USE THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS IN THE CITY'S ACCOUNTANT.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND GIVE INPUT ON THAT AND DISCUSS THAT.
SAYING THAT IS OUR GOALS TODAY.
MICHELLE, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE US AND THEN [OVERLAPPING] YES MA'AM.
>> IT SAYS DISCUSSION? IT DOESN'T SAY DISCUSSION AND GIVE DIRECTION.
>> OKAY, WE NEED TO ASK DON. THIS IS GETTING [OVERLAPPING].
>> THIS IS ANOTHER SUBJECT THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT AND GOING NOWHERE.
>> YEAH. WHERE DID DON [OVERLAPPING]. TREVOR.
I WOULDN'T THINK GIVING DIRECTIONS IS AN ACTION ITEM ANYMORE THAN JUST DISCUSSING.
>> WE COULD GIVE DIRECTION DURING OUR DISCUSSION?
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>> BUT WE COULDN'T IN THE LAST ONE. [LAUGHTER]
>> IT WAS JUST AN UPDATE THEY WEREN'T THE DISCUSSION.
>> BUT THIS JUST SAYS DISCUSSION, NOT GIVE DIRECTION.
>> WELL, LET'S START OUR DISCUSSION.
>> LAST MONTH WHEN WE DISCUSSED FOR THE CONTRACT AND THEY BROUGHT US AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL ITEM.
>> WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THIS WAY FOR YEARS NOW.
>> YEAH. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR LONG AS I REMEMBER.
>> I GOT MY LAW DEGREE IN GOOGLE.
>> MICHELLE, IF YOU COULD GIVE US A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW HERE AND THEN LET'S START LOOKING AT EACH ONE OF THESE TOPICS INDIVIDUALLY.
>> SURE. I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN.
I KNOW WE TOUCHED UPON THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST MONTH AND WE'RE JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON AGAIN, AS MAYOR SAID, PULLING THE RDA FROM THIS THE OTHER ENTITY VERSUS KEEPING THEM ALL THE SAME.
BUT WE'VE NOT DONE A LOT WITH THE RDA.
IT'S MOSTLY BEEN THE EXTRA HOUSEKEEPING ON THE TOURS AND PAYING THE BILLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE'VE NOT PLACED THAT [INAUDIBLE] OBJECTIVES THERE WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON SOME OF THE PROGRAMS OF INTERESTS FOR THE HOUSING FINANCE AND PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY.
I DO AGREE I'VE SEEN WITH THE PURCHASE PROGRAM IS AND WE CAN GET TO BE BACK THERE WITH THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> LET'S LET OUR GUEST INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
JOHN, IF YOU WORK FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU'RE ON CAMERA.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET THE MEMO OF THE DRESS CODE AND EVERYBODY IS DRESSED SO NICELY THIS MORNING.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS COMING FROM THE FAR WEST END AT LEAST I DIDN'T WEAR MY SHORTS AND FLIP-FLOPS.
[LAUGHTER] BUT BRIEFLY, MY BACKGROUND IS, I'M A 30-YEAR RETIRED LAND DEVELOPER AND RESIDENTIAL CONTRACTOR.
I'VE HOPED ABOUT A DOZEN SUBDIVISIONS IN HARRIS COUNTY PRIMARILY.
I'VE BUILT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES RANGING IN VALUE FROM 99,000 TO 4.2 MILLION.
I CAME ON THE BOARD, CURRENTLY SERVING AS VICE PRESIDENT.
CAME ON THE BOARD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO HELP DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR GALVESTON ISLAND.
I SAY AFFORDABLE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.
THAT'S HOUSING AT A PRICE POINT.
THAT IS IF WE CAN GO TO THE MANY PEOPLE WHO WORK ON THE ISLAND BUT LIVE ON THE MAINLAND BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND HOUSES THAT THEY CAN AFFORD.
THE FOCUS OF THE BOARD RECENTLY HAS BEEN TO ACQUIRE LOTS.
IT'S A TOUGH ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW FOR CONSTRUCTION, SUPPLY CHAIN, ISSUES HAVE EASED SOMEWHAT, BUT IT'S STILL VERY DIFFICULT TIME TO GET MATERIALS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SUBCONTRACT LABOR IS STILL VERY DIFFICULT AND THE PRICES REMAIN HIGH ON LABOR.
THE BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT IT'S BEST INTERESTS TO MOVE FORWARD IS TO ACQUIRE RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND MORE OR LESS LAND BANK THOSE OR DEVELOPMENT AT A POINT IN THE FUTURE TO BE DETERMINED.
WE'VE RUN INTO SOME DIFFICULTY IN ACQUIRING LOTS, THEN GET SNAPPED UP.
THE GOOD ONES THAT ARE IN GOOD LOCATIONS THAT ARE PRICED CORRECTLY.
THEY GET SNAPPED UP IN A MATTER OF DAYS.
IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE MARKET OUT THERE AND SOME OF THESE LOTS ARE BEING BOUGHT BY INVESTORS, SOME HAVE BEING ACQUIRED BY BUILDERS.
BUT THE BOARD HAS NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN MAKING ANY HEADWAY, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT TOGETHER THIS PROPOSAL FOR VIDEO COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
>> THANK YOU GENTLEMAN. MR. BERNSTEIN COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
>> MY NAME IS ROBERT BERNSTEIN.
I'M AN ATTORNEY HERE IN GALVESTON.
I'VE BEEN REPRESENTING THE COMBINED BOARDS OF THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND THE CITY OF GAUSSIAN PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY SINCE 2013.
INHERITED THAT POSITION FROM MY FRIEND SAM FROM MONTE, WHO REPRESENTED THE BOARDS FOR ABOUT 18 YEARS.
LET ME JUST LEAVE IT THERE AS FAR AS AN INTRODUCTION TO MYSELF.
DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND ELABORATE ANY FURTHER ON?
BUT LET'S WORK THROUGH OUR GOALS HERE TODAY AND LET'S GO BACK IN GETTING INPUT FROM COUNCIL ON THESE AND WE'LL GET TO THAT COMING UP HERE VERY SHORTLY.
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING IT A COMBINED GROUP OR SEPARATING THE GROUP.TO COUNCIL LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. JOHN.
>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM ROBERT AND THE BOARD MEMBER ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK OF THE GROUPS BEING COMBINED?
>> I'M GIVING MY PERSONAL FEELINGS RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS NOT THE BOARD'S POSITION.
I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY THEY WERE COMBINED.
THE FOCUS OF GHFC IN PARTICULAR BY COUNCIL RESOLUTION, I THINK IT WAS IN 2003, IS TO BUILD SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW RDA HAS BEEN DOING OTHER THINGS.
I THINK THERE ARE AVENUES OF COOPERATION.
I DON T KNOW THAT THAT REQUIRES THAT THE BOARD'S BE IDENTICAL.
I MEAN, THE THREE ENTITIES ARE JUST THREE DIFFERENT VEHICLES TO GET US TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND THAT WORKS BEST THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, I JUST WANT TO SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPED ON THE ISLAND.
>> MY THOUGHT HERE AND REASON WHY VOTE TO COMBINE THESE BOARDS IS BECAUSE EACH ENTITY DOESN'T DO A WHOLE LOT OF WORK.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THESE BOARDS SIT SOMEWHAT IDLE AND IT SEEMS LIKE A BETTER USE OF RESOURCES IF THEY WERE COMBINED.
I THOUGHT THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD HAVE OVERLAPPING CAPACITY TO OVERSEE THE THREE BOARDS.
THAT THEIR SKILLS WOULD ALIGN ON ALL THREE OF THOSE BOARDS.
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE RDA IN THE PAST HAS PRIMARILY BEEN USED FOR TORS, WHICH WE HAVE WHITTLED DOWN TO JUST ONE NOW [OVERLAPPING] THAT ARE ON OCEANIC BEDS.
>> BEACHES [OVERLAPPING] THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL DECADES.
>> THEY DO VERY LITTLE ON THE BED SIDE OF IT.
>> YEAH IT'S PASSED THROUGH. THE RDA IN OTHER CITIES HAVE REALLY USED THAT BOARD OR THAT TOOL TO REALLY REDEVELOP THE CITY.
A PART OF THAT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT IT COULD SPIN A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON WHY WE WANT TO COMBINE THESE ENTITIES.
IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IF YOU ALL DON'T THINK THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO ALL OF THOSE JOBS, THEN THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HERE.
IF IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT FOR SOME REASON, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO RETHINK THAT AND I GO DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
BUT I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD THAT YET, BUT THAT'S WHY WE BACK [NOISE] OUT HERE TO DISCUSS THAT.
>> I PERSONALLY WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE EVER COMBINED IN THE BEGINNING.
JUST SAY WE'VE WHITTLED DOWN TO ONE TORS.
IS THAT AN ERROR ON OUR PART WHEN WE HAVE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED AND CONTRACTS WRITTEN ON PROPER TORS.
I AM NOT AN ANTI TORS PERSON [OVERLAPPING] AT ALL.
I THINK YOU HAVE A MISSION OF THE TWO GROUPS THAT ARE TO DO HOUSING.
WHENEVER MIDDLE-INCOME HOUSING OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PHRASE IT, ALTHOUGH I QUESTION BECAUSE STILL THE INSURANCE COMES ABOVE THAT, WHICH THEN THROWS IT INTO A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
BUT I THINK, BY COMBINING THEM.
I MEAN, IT JUST NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME AND SHAME ON US THAT WE'RE NOT USING RDA BETTER TO WHERE IT WOULD HELP FACILITATE GROWTH IN UNDERUSED AREAS.
OR EVEN FOR RETAIL, HOUSING, YOU NAME IT.
I MEAN, LOOK AT THE STRAND WAS BROUGHT BACK BY OUR TORS, PIRATES BEACH, PIRATES COVE.
INDIAN BEACH WAS A MITCHELL TORS [INAUDIBLE].
MITCHELL INDIAN BEACH WAS ALSO A TORS.
I MEAN, THERE'S TORS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
>> I'M NOT ARGUING ABOUT TORS. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THEY CAN BE VERY BENEFICIAL.
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[NOISE].>> BUT I'M JUST SAYING TO ME, HAVING WORKED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH A NUMBER OF CITIES, WE DON'T REALLY USE OUR RDA THE WAY THAT OTHER CITIES DO TO DEVELOP AND I THINK IT'S SEPARATE GOALS.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, IF YOU DID SEPARATE THEM, AND YOU PUT 6,7 BOARD MEMBERS, WHATEVER IT IS ON THE RDA, WHAT WOULD THEY DO DIFFERENT? WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE THEM DO? WHAT DIRECTION WOULD YOU GIVE THEM?
>> RIGHT, NOW, THE DIRECTION IS ONLY ON BUYING LAND.
>> IT'S NOT AT ALL. WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM DIRECTION AT ALL.
>> BUT WHAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> NOT AT ALL, UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
>> NO, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ANOTHER SUBJECT WE JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT AND GOING NOWHERE.
I JUST THINK THE TWO SHOULD BE SEPARATE AND WE SHOULD USE OUR RDA CORRECTLY AS OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL IN DOING.
LOOK AT WHAT'S IT CALLED, THAT GENTLEMAN RUNNING FOR COUNCIL.
HE WAS PART OF THE TORS THAT DID THE POST OAK SHOPPING AREA AND THAT WHOLE SUCCESSFUL AREA.
I JUST SAY GETS TO SEPARATE ROLES AND I THINK THEY HAVE SEPARATE MISSIONS AND WE CAN'T EVEN GET APPROVAL.
HAS THE SECRETARY OF THE STATE EVER GIVEN US APPROVAL? DAN?
THEY GAVE US APPROVAL OF ONE OF THE THREE ENTITIES, I SENT BACK, THE OTHER TWO.
WE'VE SINCE BEEN DISAPPROVED FOR THE FOURTH TIME ON ONE OF THOSE TWO, THE OTHER MAY YET GET APPROVED.
THE ONE THAT WAS SENT BACK IS THE RDA, IT'S NOT MUCH OF AN ISSUE [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE TO THE STATE.
HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN DOING IT?
>> IT'S ONLY A SIGNATURE ISSUE.
>> HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A PARABOLA.
>> BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT'S NOT BECAUSE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TREVOR.
IT WAS MY ASSUMPTION THAT IT WASN'T BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH BRINGING THE GROUPS TOGETHER OR NOT, THERE WERE BACKLOG ISSUES, THERE WERE TECHNICAL ISSUES, THERE WERE THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> MOSTLY WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS FORMAT ISSUES.
[OVERLAPPING] DIFFERENT ENTITIES HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FORMAT.
FOR INSTANCE, THE THIRD TIME THAT IT CAME BACK UP, THE RDA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNED, NOT BY THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT BY THE PRESIDENT AND SECRETARY.
THE OTHER ONE THAT CAME BACK WAS PRESIDENT OR SECRETARY BECAUSE IT WAS A DIFFERENT AREA.
WHEN I SENT THEM BACK THEY WERE SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT WHILE THE ONE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PRESIDENT AND SECRETARY, CAME BACK.
>> VERY GOOD. ANY ANY FURTHER QUERY?
>> APPARENTLY I'VE GONE MISSING.
>> WELL, I'VE LONG FELT THAT, THE PURPOSE OF THE RDA IS FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH THE 380 AGREEMENTS TORS.
WITH THAT, HOUSING IS PART OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ANY OF OUR WORKERS TO BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING JOBS AND BE ABLE TO LIVE THEIR.
WHEN WE SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SUCH A VAGUE TOPIC FOR ANYBODY TO EVEN ACCOMPLISH.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RENTAL PRICES? THEN WE TALKING ABOUT 380 AGREEMENTS, CAN YOU TIE IN A HOUSING COMPONENT WITH THOSE? I DON'T KNOW.
I'M A LITTLE TORN ON BANK BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE JUST BROAD TOPIC THAT WE'RE COVERING HERE WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSING COMPONENT.
I WOULD LOVE A GROUP JUST TO FOCUS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BUT CAN YOU JUST SEPARATE THAT OR CAN YOU TAKE HOUSING OUT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? A HARD A QUESTION. YEAH.
>> YOU CAN GIVE DIRECTION ANYWAY YOU WANT TO GO?
>> YEAH. EXACTLY. IF THEY WERE SEPARATED, THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT THE RDA BEING STAFF ONLY.
BRIAN, [NOISE] DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT?
>> I THINK, AGAIN, WE NEED TO HAVE AN ORDER HERE AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WE NEED TO THINK THOROUGHLY ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO BEFORE WE DECIDE WHO AND WHAT YOU PUT ON THE BOARD.
>> [INAUDIBLE] AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE RDA IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT WAS CHAIRED PUBLICLY, IT USUALLY IS A SEPARATE ENTITY.
>> THERE'S A FEW, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE RDA.
IF THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS JUST TO MANAGE SERVICES, THEN ABSOLUTELY IT SHOULD BE STAFF BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO ALL DAY LONG AND THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE AND IT HAS TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL ANYWAY.
IF YOU WANT THE RDA TO STEP OUT AND DO OTHER THINGS, THEN YOU PROBABLY NEED TO BRING OTHER EXPERTISE ON THE BOARD.
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THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THESE SPECIFIC BOARDS, IS TO BRING PEOPLE WITH EXPERTISE TO THE BOARD, NOT JUST POLITICAL APPOINTMENTS BUT PEOPLE WITH EXPERTISE.>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'VE NEVER REALLY GIVEN CLEAR GUIDANCE TO THE RDA OR WHERE WE WANTED THEM TO HEAD WITH REDEVELOPMENT ON THIS ISLAND.
THEY HAVE AS A DEFAULT MOVED INTO THE TORI'S BECAUSE COUNSELS IN THE PAST AND CURRENTLY HAD NEVER REALLY REQUESTED MUCH FROM THEM.
>> DID COUNCIL DIRECT THE TORI'S PROJECTS THAT MARIE ROB LISTED OR HOW DID THOSE PROJECTS COME ABOUT?
>> I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR [OVERLAPPING] ABOUT THE PREVIOUS OR SEVENTH GRADE MATH WRONG.
MOST TOURISTS COME ABOUT THROUGH PRIVATE DEVELOPS PROPERTY BELL OR COMES IN AND SAYS, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH THIS AREA.
I NEED TO BE REIMBURSED FOR CITY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I PUT IN SO THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY USES HIS MONEY, WHO IS HER MONEY TO PLACE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ON THE GROUND.
THAT INCREMENTAL TAX VALUE THEN GOES AND REIMBURSES THE DEVELOPER.
THE CITY, I MEAN, I GUESS THE CITY COULD GO AND SET UP A TOURS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY CONTRACT WITH. NO.
>> THAT'S WHY WE'VE DONE THAT IN SOME AREAS ABSENT A DEVELOPER AND THOSE ARE THE CHANCES THAT HAVE FAILED.
>> RDA COMMITTEE, WHAT WOULD BE THE CONNECTION?
>> THE RDA OVERSEES THE TERMS THAT THE CONTRACT THAT THEY TAKE THE MONEY IN, THAT INCREMENTAL VALUE THEY PAY OUT TO THE DEVELOPER.
WHERE THOSE ARE THE ONES WHERE PEOPLE PAY A FEE UPFRONT FOR THEIR UTILITIES AND IT GETS SHUFFLED THROUGH THE PROCESS.
>> THE DIFFERENCE IN A PIT AND OCCURS IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, THEN PAYS A ADDITIONAL FEE ON TOP OF THEIR TAXES, AND THAT ADDITIONAL FEE PAYS THE DEVELOPER BACK FOR THE COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
>> COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED THE RDA IN THE PAST OVER THE YEARS WITH THE TOURS?
>> WELL, WE'VE PROVED THE CONTRACTS, OF COURSE, WITH THE TURTLES RIGHT DIRECTION.
>> BECAUSE TYPICALLY WITH A TOURS, IT'S AN UNDEVELOPED AREA.
BECAUSE IT HAS TO QUALIFY TO BE ABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S NOT JUST LIKE SOMEBODY COULDN'T SAY, I'M GOING TO PICK A PRIME A LOT ON AT THE BEACH AND I WANTED TO UTTERS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE UNDER-SERVED IT HAS TO BE AN AREA OF LIGHT THAT WAS UNDER IT.
[NOISE] THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY THE LAWS ARE WRITTEN.
>> OR IF SO, WOULD IT BE JUST IMMATURE WITH, RESOURCES WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO JUST GIVE DIRECTION ON RDA AND SAY FOCUS ON THESE RESOURCES LIKE AN ADD A BLANK MAP, GALVESTON
>> WE HAD SOME IN THAT PACKET, WE DID HAVE SOME INITIAL RECOMMENDED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR EACH OF THE ENTITIES.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CHARGING FORWARD AND PROVIDING A BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT DO.
>> I MEAN, I WOULD ENVISION A MEETING LOOKING AT THAT MAP OF GALVESTON AND SAM, WHAT ARE THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE? WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS DO YOU HAVE TO ENSURE IS THAT JUST TOO SIMPLE?
>> THAT'S AGAIN, WHY DON'T SEE THE TUBE FUNCTIONING.
[NOISE] I THINK IT'S THE TWO, BECAUSE IT WAS THREE GROUPS BUT TOGETHER TWO OF THEM MAKE SENSE TO BE TOGETHER.
THE RDA DOESN'T IN MY MIND, MY OPINION, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I NEVER UNDERSTOOD FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WHY THEY WERE MERGED TOGETHER BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I CAN THINK OF A NUMBER OF AREAS, ESPECIALLY NORTH OF BROADWAY, THAT COULD BENEFIT VERY MUCH FROM A TERMS AND A TRUE FUNCTIONING RDA AS NOT BEING COMBINED WITH YOU BECAUSE ONE IS HOLDING BACK THE OTHER, IN MY OPINION.
I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION WAS THE MORE.
WHEN THEY MERGE TOGETHER, THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, ESPECIALLY THEIR CHAIRPERSON, PATRICIA BOON CAME FROM THAT GROUP AND SO THEY WERE THE MORE ACTIVE GROUP,
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THE RDA, EVEN BEFORE WE MOVED TO MERGE THE WORK, DOING MUCH.>> WELL BECAUSE THE CITY BECAME VERY ANTEATERS AND WELL, TRIED TO KILL OFF ANY TERMS THAT MISSPELLING OR.
>> YOU NEED A PRIVATE DEVELOPER THOUGH TO INITIATE THE TERM.
>> HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I MEAN, YOU HAVE MICHELLE GO OUT THERE AND SAY, HEY, THE CITY IS POSSIBLY WILLING TO PUT SOME TOURISM PLACE FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO COME TO TOWN.
I MEAN, YOU GET THE WORD OUT THERE.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY HOW YOU DO IT, BUT.
>> WELL, WE CERTAINLY BECAME AN ANTI TERTIARY CITY BY REPUTATION.
BUT THERE ARE AREAS ESPECIALLY NORTH OF BROADWAY THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE AND IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PURSUED BY A DEVELOPER OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
>> WHY DO YOU SAY NORTH OF BROADWAY? BECAUSE.
>> ONE OF MY DREAM PROJECTS, IF I WERE A DEVELOPER, I WOULD GET THAT DEPOT AND TURN IT INTO LIKE A HANDLING MARKET.
>> BUT YOU REALIZE THE DEPOT IS NOT A VERY BIG PROJECT AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC REALLY IMPROVEMENTS ON IT.
YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT A WHOLE LOT OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN PLACE TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY.
THE ONLY THING YOU CAN SPEND TURNS OF MONEY ON IS PUBLIC.
>> IN 3D YOU COULD, I MEAN THERE'S.
>> 380 MIGHT BE ABLE TO 380 [OVERLAPPING] THE PROJECT.
>> FOR THE RDA THEN THAT THE HOUSING GROUP.
>> SPECIFIC GOALS THAT YOU ALL WANT TO ACHIEVE, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND BRING BACK WHICH ENTITY MAY BE THE BEST FIT.
BUT JUST KNOWING WHAT IS IT THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE.
>> I THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT THERE.
I MEAN, IF YOU IDENTIFY THESE AREAS OF TOWN OR SPECIFIC PROPERTIES THAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO FOCUS ON AND GET REDEVELOPED AND BRING PEOPLE INTO THAT AREA OF TOWN, I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE RDA SHOULD DO.
>> WE JUST NEED TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION.
>> I MEAN, [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T REALLY CARE IF THE THEY ARE THERE OR NOT.
>> I'M JUST SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATED.
>> TO ME, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
>> THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION WAS.
>> ESPECIALLY, IF COUNCIL GAVE ONE GROUP SO MUCH DIRECTION AND THEY WERE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON IT THAT IT OVERWHELMED THE GROUPS CAPACITY TO DO THE OTHER BOARDS THAT ABSOLUTELY SPLIT THEM UP, GET MORE PEOPLE ON THERE.
I REALLY SAW A DIFFERENT FOCUS, BUT BECAUSE THEY ALL, IT IS A TOOL AND A DEVELOPERS TOOLBOX.
WHETHER YOU'RE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHETHER YOU'RE ON COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, EACH PIECE, EACH GROUP HAS A PIECE OF THAT.
CAN HAVE A PIECE OF THAT, CORRECT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, JANNEL DID YOU HAVE WITH TIME COUNCILMAN COLLINS LEFT THOUGH.
I FORGOT TO. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE WAS HERE.
>> ANYWAY, IF WE'LL DENOTE COUNCILMAN COLLINS IS NOT AT THE WORKSHOP TABLE AND HOPEFULLY IT HE WILL RETURN SHORTLY ON THAT. YES.
>> HOW DOES DIRECTION LOOK? WHAT JOHN JUST SAID? I AGREE WITH.
I SAID THAT JUST BE USED AS DIRECTION OR DO WE NEED A RESOLUTION OR NO.
>> I WOULD NEED TO GIVE THEM VARIOUS BESIDE TO SPOT PRECISE DIRECTION.
I MEAN, WE HAVE BEEN VERY VAGUE FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.
YOU NEED TO TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE THEM ACCOMPLISH.
SPECIFICALLY THAT IT'S PROBABLE.
>> COUNCIL NEEDS TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON THE RESOLUTION OR SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED WE NEED TO DETERMINE IF WE WANT TO HAVE THEM THIS COMBINED AND WHAT WE'LL DO.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THAT.
WILL PUT HER ON AS AN ACTION ITEM IN THE FUTURE, A LITTLE BOAT ON IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SECONDLY, WE DO NEED TO GIVE THEM NO MATTER IF WE PEOPLE AND COMBINED OR IF WE SEPARATE THEM, THE RDA NEEDS CLEAR DIRECTION.
THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION DOES TOO.
WHILE WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT, THEY HAVE IT'S IN OUR PACKET.
THEY HAVE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL A PROPOSED PLAN FOR PURCHASING LAND AND SO FORTH.
THIS HAS TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
WHICH ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN WOULD LIKE TO JUST GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW ON THAT? [LAUGHTER]
>> LET ME TRY IT THIS WAY, BUT I DO HAVE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND.
AGAIN, HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION WAS TASKED IN 2003 BY CITY COUNCIL WITH BASICALLY BUILDING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT PEOPLE COULD AFFORD TO PURCHASE.
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THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS ALL AROUND STATE.A LOT OF THEM WERE HEAVILY INTO MULTIFAMILY.
THEY ISSUE BONDS, RAISE FUNDS, LOAN THEM TO DEVELOPERS, AND THE DEVELOPER CAN BUILD AN APARTMENT PROJECT.
LOTS OF THINGS CAN BE DONE BY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, BUT IN 2003, AND I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH THE IMBALANCE IN GALVESTON BETWEEN RENTAL PROPERTIES AND OWNER-OCCUPIED PROPERTIES, COUNCIL SAID WE WANT GHSC TO BUILD SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
SINCE THAT TIME, WHAT I PERSONALLY KNOW IS THAT THE PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY, WHICH IS THE MIRROR IMAGE, BUT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AS GHSC, DID THE BARTON SQUARE SUBDIVISION OUT OFF OF 73RD STREET.
DON'T ASK ME TO TELL YOU THE CROSS STREET, EIGHT-AND-A-HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
[OVERLAPPING] THERE WAS ALSO A PROGRAM IN THE, I'D SAY MIDDLE 2000S, AS I RECALL, UTILIZING HOME GRANT FUNDS IN COOPERATION WITH THE CITY TO BUILD SEVERAL SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME LOCATED IN THE 4,300 BLOCK OF, I'M GOING TO SAY CHURCH STREET, AND THERE ARE OTHERS IN THAT ROUGH VICINITY.
STARTING IN 2015, LARGELY THROUGH THE WORK OF MR. MUSTASKI, THE HEAD OF FINANCE CORPORATION BUILT FIVE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS ON THE CORNER OF 35TT AND WINNING.
NOT TOO ANGER ANYBODY, BUT ALL OF THOSE WERE DONE NOT AT THE REQUEST OF ANYBODY AT THE CITY.
THOSE WERE PROGRAMS THAT THE BOARD DECIDED TO GET INTO TO THE EXTENT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL WAS REQUIRED.
WELL, ONE WAS HOME GRANT FUNDS, OBVIOUSLY, THE CITY WAS INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL WAS REQUIRED ON THE OTHER TWO, IT WAS SOUGHT AND APPROVED, BUT THE CITY DID NOT SAY, WE WANT YOU TO GO AND DO THIS.
THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED THAT IS BECAUSE THE BOARD HAS BEEN SELF-DIRECTED ALL OF THESE YEARS.
NOW, I WANT TO MENTION THAT MICHELLE PUT TOGETHER THE PRESENTATION IN SUMMARY, IF YOU WILL, ON THE PROPOSED PLAN.
I HAVE NO DISAGREEMENT WITH HER SUMMARY OF IT.
I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE DIFFERENCE HERE IN THIS PLAN VERSUS WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THE PAST IS THAT IN THE PAST, SOMEBODY HAS EVEN BROUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE BOARD AND SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BUY THIS AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THE BOARD HAS SPECIFIC IDEAS ON WHAT THE BOARD WANTED TO DO WITH IT.
[NOISE] THE PROBLEM THAT IS BEING EXPERIENCED RIGHT NOW, AND I WANT MR. LIGHTFOOT TO EXPAND ON THIS, IS THAT DEVELOPERS, FOR GOOD OR ILL, ARE SNATCHING UP PROPERTIES ON THE ISLAND THAT OUR BOARD MIGHT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO PURCHASE AND TO BUILD ON.
THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IS THAT THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE TO BUILD WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO BUILD.
AS AN ASIDE, I THINK, JOHN, THE CONSTRUCTION COST AT 35TH AND WINNING WERE BETWEEN 140 AND 150 A HOUSE.
THE LAND, INCLUDING THE DEMOLITION, COST US A ROUGHLY 40.
THE HOUSES WERE SOLD BETWEEN, I THINK 153 AND,165, JUST OPERATING OR MEMORY, [NOISE] BUT AGAIN, IN THE PAST, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY AT A GOOD PRICE.
RIGHT NOW, NOT TO EVEN GET INTO CONSTRUCTION COST, WHICH I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON, BUT REAL ESTATE PRICES HAVE GONE UP SO MUCH ON GALVESTON ISLAND AND PROPERTIES REMAIN ON THE MARKET FOR VIRTUALLY NO TIME AT ALL.
THE IDEA BEHIND THE PLAN IS THAT THE BOARD GETS BLESSING FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACT IN AN EXPEDITED MANNER.
IT'S ALL STILL GOING TO HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE GHSC BOARD IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS,
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BUT THE BOARD NEEDS TO KNOW THAT IT CAN ACT QUICKLY WHEN A PIECE OF PROPERTY COMES ON THE MARKET TO ACQUIRE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.NOW, THE PLANNING ENVISIONS THAT THE BOARD MIGHT ACQUIRE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, LOOK AT IT DOWN THE ROAD, AND SAY, WELL, NOW THAT WE HAVE IT, IT DOESN'T FIT OUR DEVELOPMENT PLANS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND IN THAT SITUATION GO AHEAD AND RE-MARKET THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT AGAIN, GIVEN THE MARKET, IF THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO FULLY FORMULATE THE USE FOR A PIECE PROPERTY FOR ACQUIRING IT.
I THINK THAT'S THE SENTIMENT OF THE ENTIRE BOARD AND THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THIS PLAN TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
>> THANK YOU. THIS WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK.
DOM, WE WOULD NEED TO BRING THAT BACK AS AN ACTION ITEM FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT.
>> I IMAGINE SO, BUT I THINK THE BOARDS THEMSELVES, DON'T YOU THINK YOU HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT BASED ON YOUR OWN STRUCTURE?
>> NO, I DON'T BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH MINOR HURDLES IN THE FORMATION DOCUMENTS ABOVE CORPORATIONS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE COUNCIL SAYING IT'S ALL RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS.
YOU'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
YES, WE'D HAVE TO BRING BACK SOMETHING FOR ACTION ON A REGULAR AGENDA.
>> BOB AND TREVOR CAN WORK THAT OUT.
>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YES.
>> IN READING THOSE AGREEMENT, IT JUST TALKS ABOUT THE GHFC AND THE GPFA, NOT THE RDA.
>> AGAIN, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES.
>> ONE REASON FOR THAT, AGAIN, AS AN ASIDES, WE DON'T WANT TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, AND I'M ASSUMING THE RDA FUNDS, YOUR CITY FUNDS.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT BECAUSE THEN THERE MAY BE OTHER REQUIREMENTS TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS.
WE'RE LIMITING IT TO THIS BOARD'S AUTHORIZING THE USE OF ITS FUNDS.
>> I THINK GLENN BACKING IS A GREAT IDEA.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BASTAIN ON THIS FOR MR. LIGHTFOOT?
>> I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. IN OUR PACKET HERE, LET ME TRY TO FIND IT REAL QUICK, THE PURCHASE PROGRAM IS THIS AGREEMENT?
>> YES, SIR. IT'S THE LAST ITEM ON OUR PACKET.
>> JUST GIVE ME THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS AGREEMENT.
I'VE READ THROUGH THIS, BUT TELL ME WHAT YOU-ALL ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR HERE,
>> I END UP DEFERRING TO MICHELLE'S SUMMARY, [LAUGHTER] BUT IT'S THAT THE BOARD CAN HUNT FOR PROPERTIES.
BASICALLY, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR PROPERTIES, AND WHEN A PROPERTY IS FOUND, THAT THE BOARD CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE DECISION TO PURCHASE IT.
AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE A VERY COMPETENT BOARD AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RECKLESS IN THIS REGARD, BUT TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND AS I SAID EARLIER, WITH A GENERAL IDEA AS TO ITS USE, NOT JUST TO PURCHASE PROPERTY WILLY-NILLY, BUT WITH THE GENERAL IDEA AS TO ITS USE, BUT NOT A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
THEREFORE, IF IT'S FOUND LATER THAT IT DOESN'T FIT IN, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT THE BOARD CAN EITHER HANGING ONTO IT LONGER OR SELL IT.
>> ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS PRICE-WISE ON THAT PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY? YOU SAID GENERAL USES OF THE PROPERTY NOT SPECIFIC, SO WHAT WOULD BE SOME GENERAL USES TOO?
>> WELL, THE CORPORATION IS BASICALLY TASKED WITH BUILDING SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
THAT WOULD BE, AND I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY EVEN MENTIONED IN HERE, THAT THAT WOULD BE WITH AN EYE TOWARD BUILDING A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.
LET'S SAY IT'S A SINGLE LOT WITH AN EYE TOWARDS BUILDING A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING ON THAT LOT.
BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, I KNOW THAT AS LONG AS WE DON'T ACQUIRE A LOT THAT'S TOO SMALL, WE CAN GENERALLY BE ABLE TO BUILD ANYWHERE WE WANT TO BUILD, BUT IT MIGHT ALSO BE POSSIBLE THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FIND
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A CONTRACTOR WHO WILL BUILD ONE STRUCTURE ON ONE LOT AT A TIME, SO WE MAY NEED TO PATCH TOGETHER SEVERAL, AS WAS DONE OVER THERE OFF OF 43RD STREET.ONE CONTRACTOR COME IN AND DO FIVE OR SIX HOUSES THAT WERE WITHIN A COUPLE OF BLOCKS TO ONE ANOTHER ALL AT ONE TIME.
MIGHT'VE BEEN NOT DURING CONSTRUCTION, SO ECONOMY IS TO SCALE.
>> ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS ON SALES PRICE?
>> THE PROGRAM LEAVES THAT TO THE BOARD, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT DISCRETION SHOULD REST.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE UPWARD PRESSURE ON PRICES MIGHT RELAX A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF THAT HAPPENS, GOOD.
IF IT DOESN'T, THEN THE BOARD NEEDS TO ADAPT TO THAT, AND JUST MAKE UP ITS MIND THAT IN OTHER TIMES THIS MIGHT BE AN OVERPRICED PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S A GOOD PRICE WHEN THEY DO ACQUIRE IT AND GET STARTED ON SOMETHING.
THE DISCRETION ON PRICE IS LEFT TO THE BOARD.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO MEET CRITERIA TO SELL THIS TO A CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC PRICE POINT-WISE FOR, QUOTE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
>> THAT DEPENDS ON WHICH CORPORATION ULTIMATELY ACTUALLY BUILDS SOMETHING ON IT.
PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY IS NOT UNDER ANY SUCH RESTRICTIONS.
[NOISE] HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION ESSENTIALLY SAID ITS OWN, LET'S SAY INCOME LIMITS.
THEY HAVE AN INCOME LIMIT STATED IN THE PROGRAM.
THAT INCOME LIMIT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE 35TH OF MINI-PROJECT, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS DO ALL AROUND IN TERMS OF THEIR HOUSING PROGRAMS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
[NOISE] NOT ONLY DID I DO AN EXTENSIVE SEARCH ONLINE, NATIONWIDE [NOISE] WHEN WE CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION BACK IN 2017 OR '18 ON THOSE HOUSES BUT I ALSO CHECKED WITH MY FRIEND, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND HE SAID, WHAT DO YOU DO? I FIGURED WE'RE GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT, HE'S GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT BIG TIME.
BUT [NOISE] THAT'S GOING TO BE A FLOATING NUMBER.
AGAIN, WE PUT IN THE PLAN THAT CURRENTLY THAT NUMBER IS $104,000 FOR FAMILY AND [OVERLAPPING] IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE GOING UP.
>> CAN YOU PUT THAT IT WAS ADDED IN YOUR ORDINANCE THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> CURRENTLY, 140 PERCENT IS THE UPPER LIMIT ON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION PROJECTS.
I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE GOING THAT FAR AND BROUGHT THAT TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION BACK IN 2017.
BUT AGAIN, IF THE PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY WERE TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTY AND WE WANT THESE CORPORATIONS TO BE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY FLIP PROPERTIES TO ONE ANOTHER, DEPENDING ON THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY.
BUT IF IT HAS A FINANCE BILLS AND RESALES, THERE WILL BE AN INCOME LIMIT.
THE PROPERTY FINANCE WILL REBUILT AND RESALE.
THERE WOULD NOT BE AN INCOME LIMIT NECESSARILY, UNLESS THE BOARD WANTS TO IMPOSE [INAUDIBLE]
>> HOW MUCH TOTAL MONEY DO YOU HAVE TO BUY A PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? [OVERLAPPING] WAS IT ABOUT 900,000?
>> SOMEWHERE IN THAT VICINITY, YEAH.
>> HOW MANY TIMES AUTHORITY HAS THE [INAUDIBLE] LIKE 90 PERCENT OF THAT OR?
>> SO ABOUT 800,000 [OVERLAPPING].
>> LET ME QUICKLY EXPLAIN WHAT [OVERLAPPING] [NOISE] WAS DONE WITH THAT BACK IN '17 OR SO WHEN THESE FIVE HOUSES WERE BUILT.
PROPERTY FINANCE PLEDGED ITS DEPOSIT TO THE BANK AS COLLATERAL FOR A LOAN TO GHFC AND THAT AVOIDED GHFC GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET A CONSTRUCTION LOAN TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION.
IT WAS A VERY SMOOTH WAY OF HANDLING.
THE END RESULT, THE MONEY CAME BACK IN WHEN ASSETS WERE SOLD.
THE MONEY PAID OFF THE OBLIGATION AT THE BANK.
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THEY WERE SOMEHOW WERE STUCK WITH THESE HOUSES AND COULDN'T PAY THEM OFF, AND THE BANK WANTED THEM TO PAY THEM.[NOISE] THERE WAS A COLLATERAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN GHFC, WHICH IS THE OWNER AND BUILDER AND PROPERTY FINANCE.
PROPERTY FINANCE BASICALLY FORECLOSE ON THE HOUSES AND TAKE THE HOUSES IN.
IT WAS NEVER EXPECTED THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN, BUT THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS WERE THERE AND [OVERLAPPING] PROPERTY FINANCE WOULD PROJECT IT.
>> I WOULD GO [INAUDIBLE] PART OF THIS SAYS COULD BE REHABILITATION ANALYSIS.
>> THE BOARD WANTED TO LOOK AT PURCHASING EXISTING STRUCTURES, AND REHABBING RATHER THAN DEMOLITION.
I CANNOT REMEMBER A TIME WHEN THE BOARD DID THAT.
BUT PRIMARILY SIMPLY BECAUSE NO RESTRUCTURING THERE.
IF IT'S REALLY IN REALLY BAD SHAPE, YOU HAVE TO BRING IT UP THE CODE ANYWAY, AND SOMETIMES THAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.
BUT THE BOARD WANTED TO, AGAIN, HAVE THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS FOR THAT PURPOSE IF AN OPPORTUNITY AROSE.
THERE WAS NO DESIRE HERE TO SIMPLY BULLDOZE NEIGHBORHOODS IF THE STRUCTURES CAN BE SAVED.
>> ROBERT, WHAT ADVANTAGES DO YOU HAVE OVER THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK? I ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IN THE PAST, THE BOARD BUILT STRUCTURES, OR BUILT HOUSES IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THERE JUST WASN'T A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
THERE WASN'T A LOT OF TRANSACTIONS GOING ON IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, IT WOULD BE PURCHASED AT LOWER PRICES THAN OTHER PLACES ON THE ISLAND.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF HOMES IN THAT PRICE RANGE BEING BUILT ANYWHERE.
THE ISLAND HAS REALLY CHANGED SINCE THAT LAST GROUP OF HOUSES WENT IN.
WHERE DO YOU SEE YOU HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OF GOING IN THERE AND MAKING THIS WORK WHERE IT'S LOWER THAN ANYBODY ELSE COULD DO IT?
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE CORPORATIONS ARE NOT IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY, SO THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT TRYING TO MAKE A PROBLEM THE BREAKEVEN.
THEORETICAL SENSE WE DIDN'T BREAKEVEN ON THE 30, 50 MILLION, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE FORGET A LITTLE SECOND LANE OR THE VALUE OF THE LAND.
BUT WE'RE NOT THERE TO MAKE MONEY.
I WOULD HOPE ANYWAY, WE DID A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR DO THE CONSTRUCTION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE YOU WOULD DO A CONSTRUCTION.
IN MY EXPERIENCE, YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER AND THEN YOU HAVE A BUILDER.
MOST OF THE MONEY DOES END UP GOING TO THE BUILDER, BUT THE DEVELOPER IS GETTING MONEY OFF THE TOP, AND THEY CAN JUSTIFY THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY, AND THEY HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION STAFF AND INVESTORS AND MONEY IS EXPECTED TO FLOAT TO.
THAT LAYER IS NOT THERE HOPEFULLY.
IT OVERWORKS THE BOARD, BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE WILLING TO PUT THEIR TIME IN TO GET THIS TYPE OF THING ACCOMPLISHED.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE ARE DEDICATED TO THE IDEA OF BUILDING STRUCTURES AND SELLING THEM, AGAIN AT A PRICE THAT THEY CAN BE AFFORDED TO PEOPLE WHO WILL EITHER LIVE ON THE ISLAND, OR WORK ON THE ISLAND, OR WILL LIVE ON THE ISLAND ONCE THIS HOUSE IS BUILT.
AS WE DID WITH THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM, IF YOU'RE JUST HERE TO BUY A HOUSE TO PUT IT INTO A RENTAL POOL, EITHER AS JUST A SINGLE RENT PROPERTY OR YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT AS A VACATION RENTAL, THEN YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE TO BUY.
THE IDEA HERE IS TO DOING A WAY.
I CAN'T PUT A PERCENTAGE ON IT, BUT MY PERCEPTION IS A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE ON THE ISLAND RIGHT NOW IS VACATION RENTAL.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE CORPORATIONS EXIST TO DO.
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I THINK THAT IS, I WOULDN'T SAY AN ADVANTAGE, I THINK IT'S AN ADVANTAGE PER SE.>> WHAT WE'LL DO SO COUNCIL, I'VE MADE SOME NOTES HERE AND WE'LL HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL ADDRESS THE POSSIBLE SEPARATION OF THESE TWO ENTITIES AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
WE'LL HAVE THE PROPOSAL COMING FROM THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AS AN ACTION ITEM ON OUR NEXT MEETING, SO COUNCIL COULD WEIGH IN AND VOTE ON THAT.
THEN WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT A VEHICLE IN SOME MANNER TO GIVE RDA DIRECTION AND WHERE WE WANT TO HEAD WITH THESE THINGS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THESE GENTLEMEN?
>> I CAN ADD ONE [OVERLAPPING].
>> BRING FORWARD AN ORDINANCE ABOUT SEPARATING THE ENTITIES IF THAT'S WHAT THEY SO CHOOSE, COULD ALSO BE A SECOND ORDINANCE BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT SAID, ANYONE WHO SERVES ON THESE ENTITIES HAS TO QUALIFY FOR ALL THE ENTITIES.
IT'LL BE A SECOND ORDINANCE REVEALING THAT ORDINANCE, BUT WE'D ONLY RECOMMEND OBVIOUSLY VOTING FOR THAT IF YOU APPROVE THE OTHER ONE.
THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, APPRECIATED.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THANK YOU. GOOD SEEING YOU JOHN.
[OVERLAPPING] [BACKGROUND] WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
COUNCIL WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO SPEED UP SO WE DON'T MOVE INTO OUR FIVE O'CLOCK TIME.
>> FOR WHO? [OVERLAPPING] OH, THERE HE IS.
MR. SIMMONS, IF WE TOOK SOME TIME TO GET TO ANOTHER [NOISE] SUBJECT HERE QUICKLY DOES YOUR SCHEDULE PREVENT THAT?
>> MY SCHEDULE IS YOUR SCHEDULE.
I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT WE HAVE ACCOUNTANT MIKE.
[3.I. Council Updates 1. Receive and discuss an update on the concept of the Financial System ERP Project (Robb/Brown - 30 min) 2. Receive and discuss the FY 2022 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report (M. Loftin - 15 min)]
COULD I BRING YOU UP? THIS IS ITEM 3I2 COUNCIL.MIKE, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED FOR THIS?
>> CITY GENERAL AUDIT, IS WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS.
WE CAN HAVE THE AUDITORS STAND UP AND SAY EVERYTHING'S FINE, YOU WOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE REPORT.
[LAUGHTER] YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SEE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.
>> WELL, IT'S COUNCILS PLEASURES.
>> LET'S SEE. READ ITEM 3I 2, PLEASE, COUNCIL, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> PROCEED AND DISCUSS THE FY 2022 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORTS.
>> I CAN LEAD OFF BY SAYING I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
[LAUGHTER] BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION IN THIS ANNUAL AUDIT.
MIKE, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING CONCERNING IT?
>> LET ME SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.
THEY'RE VERY CAPABLE CITY CONTROLLER.
JACOB, YOU HEAR ME SAY HER NAME MANY TIMES.
[NOISE] THIS IS TAMMY. TAMMY RUNS A TIGHT SHIP OUT EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU SAW BECAUSE THIS IS THE SIXTH YEAR THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE THE REPORT IN HOUSE AND THE RESULT WAS REVIEWED BY THE AUDITORS.
THAT'S REALLY THE DIVISION OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU WANT TO SEE FOR AUDITORS TO MAINTAIN OBJECTIVITY.
TAMMY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? ANYTHING ABOUT FINANCIAL REPORTING?
STATE FIRM REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PUBLISH WITHIN 180 DAYS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, A COMPLETE SET OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT ARE PREPARED IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES AND BEING AUDITED IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS FIRM OF LICENSED CPA AS MR. LAWSON JUST MENTIONED THIS IS THE SIXTH REPORT THAT'S BEEN PREPARED BY THE CITY STAFF.
THERE'S NO VOTE REQUIRED OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE REPORT.
HOWEVER, THE REPORT AND ITS FINAL FORMAT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND BY NO LATER THAN WEDNESDAY, MARCH 29TH.
ALSO KNOW THAT AN EARLIER VERSION OF THE REPORT.
LET'S REVIEW IT ON MARCH 2ND BY THE FINANCE FISCAL AFFAIRS AND FINANCE COMPUTING.
IF I MAY ALSO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK WITH THE WHITNEY PINS TEAM, MR LOFTON AND THE ENTIRE FINANCE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
A BIG BANKS AND MANY THANKS TO THE BUDGETING OFFICE,
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THE PURCHASING DIVISION AND THE ENTIRE ACCOUNTING STAFF THAT I'VE EVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH.THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS AND IN THE COMPILATION REPORT.
BUT THAT SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO WHITNEY.
>> AS PART OF OUR ENDING AUDIT PROCESS.
WE JUST HAVE SOME REQUIRED COMMUNICATION WE WENT OVER WITH THE FINANCE WITH YOU AS WELL, BUT WITH THE BODY.
I HAVE A PRETTY SHORT PRESENTATION THAT JUST TALKS ABOUT WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AS AUDITORS AND WHAT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY DURING THAT PROCESS AS WELL, WHICH TAMMY COVERED SOME OF THAT.
JUST REAL QUICKLY, WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS.
THE FIRST SLIDE IS THE TEAM AND THAT'S WHERE THE PARTNER IS PATRICK SIMMONS.
WHEN I HEARD MR. SIMMONS, I THOUGHT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARTNER ON THE JOB.
WE'VE GOT SEVERAL MEETINGS GOING ON IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
TOM PETERSON IS WHAT WE CALL THE ENGAGEMENT QUALITY CONTROL REVIEWER.
TOM IS INDEPENDENT OF THE AUDIT, HE REVIEWS OUR WORK PAPERS WHO REVIEWS THE REPORT.
HE GOES THROUGH AND DOES HELPS US MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE CORRECTLY AND ACCORDING TO STANDARDS.
WE HAD MYSELF BY GUSTAVO GUZMAN, WHO WAS THE SENIOR ASSOCIATE.
THE AUDIT PROCESS, AS TAMMY AND HER STAFF CAN ATTEST TO YOU, IT'S NOT JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT WE'RE HERE DOING WORK AND IT'S ACTUALLY GOES ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE CAME IN PRIOR TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE DO TESTS OF CONTROLS.
WE GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING AND IDENTIFY THE KEY CONTROLS THAT YOU HAVE OVER YOUR DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT WE'RE PURCHASING OVER PAYROLL TRANSACTIONS, NON-PAYROLL TRANSACTIONS, REVENUE, RECEIVING AND RECORDING.
WE TEST THOSE CONTROLS THAT YOU HAVE AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE AS WELL.
THEN WE COME BACK AFTER THE END OF THE YEAR, AFTER TAMMY AND HER GROUP HAD TIME TO CLOSE THE BOOKS AND START WORKING ON THE PREPARATION OF THE REPORT AND WE DO OUR SUBSTANTIVE TESTING.
WHAT WE DO, DURING OUR SUBSTANTIVE TESTING PROCESS, WE CONFIRM BALANCES OF ALL YOUR CASH AND INVESTMENT BALANCES, WE GET CONFIRMATION.
WE CONFIRM DEBT, WE CONFIRM OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL.
WE PERFORM ANALYTIC PROCEDURES ON YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND THEN DETAILED TESTING ON ANY TRANSACTIONS THAT WE IDENTIFY THAT WE NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL TESTING ON, AND ALL OF THAT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE AN OPINION ON THAT FINANCIAL STATEMENT ON THAT BIG BOOK THAT TAMMY AND HER GROUP HAS PUT TOGETHER.
THAT IS OUR PURPOSE IN THE AUDIT AND THAT'S TO PROVIDE AN OPINION ON THE REPORTS.
THERE ARE THREE TYPES OF OPINIONS THAT CAN BE GIVEN.
THAT'LL BE THE DISCLAIMER, WHICH WOULD BE THE REPORT AND TRANSACTIONS ARE IN SUCH POOR SHAPE THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ISSUE AN OPINION.
THE MIDDLE, AND IT'LL BE A QUALIFICATION WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A DEPARTURE FROM GAPS SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE YOU CAN GET ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
THAT IS THE OPINION THAT WE HAVE ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022.
WHAT OUR OPINION SAYS IS THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE PRESENTED FAIRLY IN ALL MATERIAL RESPECTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH GAAP.
WE ALSO CONDUCT THEM OUR AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS AS WELL AS GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT YOU DO RECEIVE.
THERE IS AN AUDITOR'S REPORT ON INTERNAL CONTROLS AND COMPLIANCE.
WE HAD NO MATERIAL WEAKNESSES IDENTIFIED AND NO SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES REPORTED, AND NO INSTANCES OF NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS.
THE MAJOR FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT WE AUDITED THIS YEAR INCLUDED THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, OR RPA AND THE FEDERAL TRANSIT CLUSTER.
BRIEF OVERVIEW OF HOW WE ARRIVE AT THOSE MAJOR FEDERAL PROGRAMS. EVERY YEAR WHEN WE COME IN AND DO THE AUDIT, WE GET THE CFA OR SCHEDULE OF EXPENDITURE OF FEDERAL AWARDS FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE PROGRAMS. THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT EVERY CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CAN TRIGGER IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM A MAJOR PROGRAM.
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WHEN WE CALL THAT A MAJOR PROGRAM, WE GO IN AND WE HAVE TO TEST COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEDERAL AGENCIES RULES.THERE'S A BIG COMPLIANCE SUPPLEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE TEST EVERYTHING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS IS APPLICABLE TO THAT GRANT.
WE HAVE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION ON COMPLIANCE OVER EACH MAJOR FEDERAL PROGRAM.
NO INTERNAL CONTROL FINDINGS RELATED TO THE PROGRAM, AND NO NON-COMPLIANCE OR QUESTION COSTS WERE NOTED.
THE REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS THAT I TALKED ABOUT, THE CITY'S ACCOUNTING POLICIES AND METHODS ARE APPROPRIATE AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
GATSBY NUMBER 96 OR SUBSCRIPTION-BASED IT ARRANGEMENTS WHERE IT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN FISCAL YEAR '22 AND ANOTHER [INAUDIBLE] GROUP THAT'S BEEN THOROUGHLY IMPLEMENTATION.
GATSBY SAID IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL FISCAL YEAR '23.
BUT THEY REALLY IMPLEMENTED THIS AS WELL AS THE ONE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, GATSBY RELATED TO LEASES OR OUR ACCOUNTING ESTIMATES AND THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, NOT EVERY NUMBER IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE SUPPORTED BY AN INVOICE OR A SET AMOUNT.
THE ESTIMATES IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS INCLUDE ALLOWANCES FOR UNCOLLECTABLE TAXES RECEIVABLE, THE LIABILITIES FOR WORKERS COMP AND HEALTH INSURANCE CLAIM, AND THEN YOUR NET PENSION AND LIABILITIES, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE LARGEST ESTIMATES ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS RELATED TO YOUR PENSION AND YOUR OTHER POST EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AND THOSE COME FROM THE ACTUARY NUMBERS THAT THEY PROVIDE.
WE CONCLUDED THAT MANAGEMENT HAS A REASONABLE BASIS FOR THOSE ESTIMATES.
WE HAD NO DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED IN PERFORMING THE AUDIT.
NO CORRECTED OR UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS AND THEN NO DISAGREEMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT.
AS WE MENTIONED YET THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND AT NO TIME DO WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO RESPOND IN A CERTAIN WAY AND GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER IN ORDER TO BE RETAINED AS AUDITOR'S.
THE LAST BIT OF INFORMATION THAT WILL GET AS THE MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATION LETTER AND THAT LETTER SAYS THAT THE CITY HAS GIVEN US ACCESS TO EVERYTHING THAT WE REQUESTED, GIVEN US ALL KNOWN INFORMATION.
THERE'S BEEN NO OTHER CONSULTATIONS WITH OTHER ACCOUNTANTS, WHICH WOULD BE FINE.
BUT IF THERE WERE WE WANT TO KNOW, [NOISE] WHAT THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE GETTING RELATED TO.
WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY MIKE MENTIONED THAT THIS IS THE SIXTH YEAR THAT THEY'VE WRITTEN THE REPORT AND WE AUDIT SEVERAL CITIES AND SO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR THAT DOCUMENT IS A VERY BIG FEE AND MOST OF OUR CITIES DON'T PREPARE THEIR OWN WAY.
IT'S REALLY SPEAKS TO HER AND HER GROUP.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I'VE HAD ASKED ME AND THESE TYPES OF MEETINGS BEFORE IS THE UNMODIFIED OPINION.
IT SEEMS YOU GIVE IT AN UNMODIFIED OPINION EVERY YEAR.
WHILE THAT IS THE CASE, THE AMOUNT OF WORK SOMETIMES IT TAKES TO GET TO THAT UNMODIFIED OPINION.
THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T SEE.
IF THEY DON'T SEE WHAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES, THERE'S CONTROLS THAT WE TEST.
THOSE HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND CHECKED AND REVIEW.
THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE RECONCILING THINGS ON A MONTHLY BASIS, SOMETIMES MORE OFTEN THAN THAT.
IT TAKES A LOT TO GET TO THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU GET IT EVERY YEAR AND THAT'S GOOD, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S EASY FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO GO IN AND MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
>> IF SHE WOULD INTRODUCE HER TO STAFF PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE].
>> TAMMY, COME ON AND INTRODUCE YOUR STAFF UP HERE.
>> SHE'S A CPA. SHE JOINED US FROM NEW ORLEANS.
I'M SENIOR ACCOUNTANT, SHE'S A CPA.
SHE ALSO JOINS US FROM LOUISIANA.
>> I APPRECIATE LETTING THIS MOVE UP ON THE AGENDA.
I HAVE TO DRIVE TO ANOTHER MEETING UP IN DALLAS.
>> THANK YOU, TAMMY AND YOUR STAFF FOR ALL THEY DID.
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WE HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM HERE THAT YOU COUNCIL ROB HAS PUT ON THE AGENDA.I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A SHORT ITEM.
JANNEL, COULD YOU READ ITEM 3I1, PLEASE MAAM.
>> SURE. THIS EVEN DISCUSS AN UPDATE ON THE CONCEPTS OF FINANCIAL SYSTEM, ERP PROJECT.
>> THE REASON I ASKED FOR THIS BEYOND WORKSHOP AS AN EX OFFICIAL AT FINANCE.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND WAS ODD THE WAY THEY WROTE IT BECAUSE IT SAID FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO GIVE APPROVAL FOR THIS AND MOVE FORWARD WHICH, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
THEY DID NOT DO A VOTE TO APPROVE.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT IT COME TO COUNCIL IS AN ERP PROJECT WHICH WE DEFINITELY NEED IN FINANCE.
I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING COMBINED WITH HUMAN RESOURCES CAN BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
SO THE NUMBERS QUOTED IN THE PRESENTATION IS IT CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 900,000 TO SIX MILLION AND THAT IT WAS IN THE BUDGET.
I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNCIL HEAR EXACTLY THE DEPTH OF THIS PROJECT AND SO FORTH.
>> MIKE, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT EVERYBODY SAY WHAT THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM ERP PROJECT IS.
>> SURE. WHAT THIS IS IS TO IDENTIFY A REPLACEMENT FOR THE CITY'S BUSINESS MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. EVERYTHING FROM PAYROLL, TO PURCHASING, TO PROCESSING APPLICANTS FOR CITY JOBS, TO EMPLOYEE BENEFITS THROUGH EMPLOYEE SELF-SERVICE ONLINE.
THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH IS CALLED BANNER.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR UNIVERSITIES AND THE CITY ACQUIRED IT AND PUT IT IN PLACE IN 1995.
WE'VE REALLY BASICALLY GOTTEN AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET OUT OF IT AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE WAY TOO MUCH PAPER, WAY TOO HIGH RELIANCE ON SPREADSHEETS FOR CRITICAL REPORTS AND FRANKLY, WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT AND GONE ELSEWHERE BECAUSE OUR TOOLS FOR THEM TO WORK WITH WE'RE SO ANTIQUATED.
IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF THIS IS A BIG MANAGEMENT STUDY OF THE CITY FOR OUR BUSINESS MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, YOU'D BE CORRECT.
WE BUDGETED $3 MILLION FOR THIS.
WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC VENDOR TARGETED YET IN OUR REVIEW.
WE DID HIRE A CONSULTANT THAT WORKS WITH CITIES IN MANAGING A PROJECT OF THIS TYPE AND THE SIZE.
THEY HAVE NO DOG IN THE HUNT, THEY HAVE NO CONNECTION FINANCIALLY OR OTHERWISE WITH ANY OTHER PROPOSERS.
WE ISSUED AN RFP IN NOVEMBER AND GOT 11 PROPOSALS.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF READING HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF SPECS THAT EACH OF THE PROPOSERS IS SUGGESTING AND WE'VE NOT ONLY GOT COMPLEX SITUATION FOR THE REQUIREMENT STANDPOINT, BUT WE HAVE A COMPLEX COMBINATION OF PROPOSERS TO REVIEW.
SEVERAL OF THE PROPOSERS ARE PROPOSING TO INSTALL SOFTWARE PROGRAMS THAT THEIR COMPANY IS AN ENTITY DOES NOT OWN AND SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL RISKS.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMPANIES THAT ARE PROPOSING SOFTWARE THAT THEY OWN.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HR ONLY PROPOSERS, WHICH WE ALLOW FOR THE RFP BECAUSE WE KNEW THEY WERE OUT THERE AND THAT IS A SPECIALIZED SEGMENT OF THE INDUSTRY THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
OUR GOAL IS TO COME TO YOU SOMETIME BEFORE THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER WITH A FIRM RECOMMENDATION AND A CONTRACT TO HIRE A COMPANY SO THAT WE CAN GET STARTED ON IMPLEMENTATION NO LATER THAN OCTOBER 1ST.
WE'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT IN OCTOBER OF NEXT YEAR.
WHEN YOU DO THESE PROJECTS, IT'S MORE CONVENIENT IF YOU CAN START ON YOUR FISCAL YEAR.
>> THANK YOU, MIKE. HAS THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR MARIE, YOU WANT FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS ON THAT.
>> JUST ANYTHING YOU WANT TO EXPAND ON MIKE.
>> WELL, I THINK THE COUNCIL APPRECIATE HOW
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COMPLEX WHAT WE DO IS AND WE MAKE IT LOOK EASY.BUT THE STAFF HAS REALLY GOTTEN EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
THIS SYSTEM THAT WE WORK WITH.
THEY COME TO WORK AND THEY'RE WORKING IN THIS HOUSE EVERY DAY.
IT TAKES WAY TOO MANY INQUIRIES TO GET TO A PIECE OF INFORMATION AND THEY'VE ALL GOT THEIR SHORTCUTS.
BUT WHEN IS ENVIRONMENT, SIMPLEST THING, THAT GETTING TO THE WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT WOULD BRING IS DROP-DOWN MENUS.
NOW, IF YOU WANT TO FIND A FUND AND WE'VE GOT 133 ACTIVE FUNDS, YOU HAVE TO PUT IN A NUMBER AND SEARCH FOR AND MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE RIGHT NUMBER.
IN A NEW SYSTEM THAT FUND SELECTION CAN BE PART OF A DROP-DOWN JUST LIKE ANY WINDOWS CHOICE.
.>> ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET WAS WHAT THE POWERPOINT THAT THE CONSULTANT HAS DONE ON THE RFQ.
THE REASON I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT SINCE MY HUSBAND IS A CPA AND HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN AEROSPACE PROGRAM.
LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY.
BUT SIX MILLION, MAY BE A LOW NUMBER COULD END UP BEING 10 MILLION.
AGAIN, THE CONCERN WAS ASKING FOR APPROVAL FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WHICH WAS INAPPROPRIATE, THAT I THOUGHT THE COUNCIL NEEDED TO BE AWARE OF IT.
>> THANK YOU MARIE FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
>> IS THIS A ONE FOR ONE EXCHANGE? IT'S LIKE BANNER, THE ONE SYSTEM GOING TO BE REPLACED WITH WHATEVER SYSTEM YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THERE.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO REPLACE MULTIPLE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE.
>> EXCUSE ME, THERE'S 13 OR 14 INDIVIDUAL MODULES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GRADING SEPARATELY AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE AND PUT TOGETHER SOME HODGEPODGE OF THE MODULES.
BUT IT REPLACES AND ENHANCES EVERY ONE OF OUR BUSINESS FUNCTIONS, NOT PERMANENT.
THAT'S A PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR NEXT YEAR.
>> BUT ONE OF THE SOFTWARES WE CURRENTLY USE IS BANNER.
ARE THERE OTHER SOFTWARES THAT WE USE THAT IT WILL REPLACE AS WELL?
>> SPANS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.
>> THERE IS THE POTENTIAL OR IT WILL REPLACE SYSTEM CALLED CIVIC HR, WHICH IS OUR APPLICANT PROCESSING SOFTWARE SOLUTION THAT IS SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT RIGHT NOW.
THE IDEAL SOLUTION ENCOMPASSES ALL OF YOUR HR AND YOUR FINANCIAL NEEDS COLLECTIVELY.
>> HR IS A FULL PARTNER IN THE PROJECT, THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN THIS.
>> MAYBE YOU WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROJECT TEAM.
>> THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF THREE STAFF MEMBERS FROM FINANCE, TWO STAFF MEMBERS FROM HR AND THEN TWO STAFF MEMBERS FROM IT.
NOW, THAT IS THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE THOSE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING THE PEN TO THE PAPER FOR THE EVALUATION IN GRADING THE PROPOSALS, WE'RE GETTING INPUT FROM ALL STAKEHOLDERS.
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUDDEN PEOPLE.
IT'S AN ENTIRE OPERATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOUNTABLE.
IT'S CRITICAL THAT THEIR BM INPUT FROM ALL OF THOSE THAT USE THE SYSTEM ON A REGULAR BASIS INTO MIKE'S POINT, IT'S THEIR HOUSE THEY WORK IN.
THIS IS HUGE. THE CURRENT SYSTEM'S BEEN AROUND-.
WE'RE ON AN ISLAND OUT THERE ON OURSELVES BECAUSE THE VENDOR TARGETS HIGHER EDUCATION PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU, MIKE VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION.
>> WE WILL HAVE A GOOD ACCEPTABLE, RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.
>> VERY GOOD. COUNCILMAN BOUVIER,
[Items 3F & 3G]
WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO COMBINE ITEM 3F AND ITEM 3G?>> MOST DEFINITELY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO OVERLAP ANYWAYS.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S READ ITEM 3F AND 3G, PLEASE MAAM.
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>> 3F, DISCUSSION OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.
ONE, RESTRICTIVE AND NON-RESTRICTIVE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, 3G DISCUSSION OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX CONTRACT.
>> BLESS YOUR HEART YOU HAVE PAID YOUR DUES THIS MORNING. COME ON.
>> LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE CITY THIS MORNING.
[LAUGHTER] MORE THAN YOU WANTED TO KNOW. I'M SURE.
MR. SIMMONS IS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED BY PARK BOARD TO SERVE AS THEIR CONTACT PERSON DURING THESE NEGOTIATIONS CONCERNING THE HOT CONTRACT THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
INVITED HIM UP TO BE HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND THANKS.
WOULD YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT YOURSELF, MR. SIMMONS.
I'M AN ATTORNEY IN HOUSTON WITH THE LAW FIRM OF GERMER, I HAVE REPRESENTED CITIES AND COUNTIES AND GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES FOR MOST OF THE 29 YEARS OF MY CAREER AND MOST RECENTLY I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH MR. GORSKI WORKING ON A POTENTIAL AGREEMENT THAT I HOPE COUNCIL FINDS NOT TOO CONTROVERSIAL.
>> SOUNDS GREAT. MIKE, I'M GOING TO LET YOU INTRODUCE BOTH THE SUBJECTS AND GO FROM THERE.
>> WE HAVE THE HOT CONTRACT THAT WAS AGREED UPON BETWEEN THE PARK BOARD AND THE CITY OF GALVESTON.
AT THE SAME TIME WE WENT AHEAD AND WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT PERTAINS TO THE HOT AS WE TRIED TO DETERMINE REVENUES THAT ARE DERIVED FROM USING HOT.
THEY WOULD BE A NON-RESTRICTED AND NOT HOT ANYMORE AND HOW THAT WORKS.
I GUESS DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THESE?
>> I'LL START THIS OFF TO GET INTO BOTH THESE DOCUMENTS HERE.
I TALKED WITH OUR ATTORNEY ON THIS.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE DEFINITION OF UNRESTRICTED FUNDS IS DIFFERENT IN THE CONTRACT AS IT COMPARES TO THE ORDINANCE.
I THINK THOSE NEED TO BE SEEN.
THE WAY I'M INTERPRETING THESE THE ORDINANCE IS LOOKING AT UNRESTRICTED FUNDS IS NET PROFIT.
THE CONTRACT IS LOOKING AT UNRESTRICTED FUNDS IS GROSS PROFIT FROM WHERE IF IT COST $100,000 TO PUBLISH A MAGAZINE AND IT PRODUCES $100,001 AND THE ORDINANCE THE UNRESTRICTED FUNDS HAVE ONLY ONE DOLLAR.
>> THE CONTRACT IT'S $101 BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN SYNC.
I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY $100,001.
WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT WHOLE ISSUE THERE.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 3 ON THE BOTTOM.
IT SAYS GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE BEYOND THE EXPENDITURE, THE CITY IN PARK, WOULD AGREE ADDITIONAL REVENUE SHALL BE SHARED ON AT 50,50 BASIS.
THAT TO ME SAYS THAT THEY ARE REPLACING THE HEART.
ONCE THE HEART IS REPLACED, REMAINING REVENUE, THE NET IS SPLIT. DO YOU AGREE?
>> I'VE NEVER VIEWED THIS AS A DEBATE OVER NET VERSUS GROSS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE, IT GOES ON TO SPECIFICALLY DEFINE WHAT REVENUES WERE ABOUT SHARING AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY DEFINES REVENUES GENERATED FROM SPONSORSHIPS AND SALES AND ADVERTISING SALES REVENUE
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AND IT DOESN'T CARVE OUT THAT REVENUE IS IN EXCESS OF THE HOT EXPENDITURES THAT GENERATE THAT REVENUE.THAT REVENUE DOES NOT COME FROM HOT DIRECTLY.
MY VIEW IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHARING THAT REVENUE WITH THE CITY ON AN EQUAL 50, 50 BASIS WITHOUT DEBATE OVER GROSS VERSUS NET, WE'RE JUST IDENTIFYING REVENUE GENERATED BY THE PARK BOARD. YES.
>> WELL, EXCEPT FOR LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TODAY, THE SOMEBODY $7500 PLUS A PERCENTAGE OF THE ATTENDANCE FEES TO THE KABBALAH MUSEUM.
IN MY MIND, THAT'S UNRESTRICTED FUNDS.
BUT YET IN THE [NOISE] DEFINITION OF THIS CONTRACT, WHICH I'M NOT SURE I BUY INTO THE 50,50 SPLIT, THAT'S UNRESTRICTED FUNDS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED ON OUR BALLPARKS THAT WERE USED.
IT SEEMS WE'RE NOT DEFINING ALL THE EXTRA REVENUES AND THEN THERE'S THE WHOLE QUESTION OF WHEN IT COMES TO ADVERTISING REVENUES IS, THERE ARE SOME SET OF COUNCIL, SO THEY ARE A GOVERNMENT AGENCY IN THAT REGARD.
ARE THEY COMPETING WITH PRIVATE ENTITIES WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE?
>> THERE ISN'T A LOT OF CONCEPTS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I THINK IS DON AND I WERE HAMMERING OUT AND DIE TO SPEAK TO HIS PERSPECTIVE OF THIS IS AS WE'RE HAMMERING AT THIS ISSUE, I'D LIKE TO START WITH THINGS IS FROM THE MOST SIMPLE BASIS WE CAN START FROM.
HOT IS USED TO GENERATE THE MAGAZINE.
HOT REVENUE IS USED TO GENERATE THE MAGAZINE IS PUBLISHED BY THE PARK BOARD.
IF THE PARDON BOARD SELLS ADVERTISING OR THE PARK BOARD GENERATES SPONSORSHIP REVENUE, THAT REVENUE IS NOT COMING IN THROUGH THE HOT TAX.
THAT'S JUST INDEPENDENTLY GENERATED REVENUE BASED ON EXPENDITURES OF HOT, BUT IT'S NOT HOT.
>> AS A CONCEPT IS COUNCIL AGREES, THE QUESTION IS A LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
NET OR GROSS? MOST MEANS ANY FUNDS AFTER THE EXPENDITURE.
THAT MEANS REPLENISH THE HOT THERE WAS EXPANDED TO PRODUCE THE REVENUE.
ANY REVENUE IN EXCESS OF THAT EXPENSE IS UNRESTRICTED.
THAT'S THE NET VERSUS GROW SESSION.
THIS IS WRITTEN SO IT'S A GROSS RECOVERY IF THE HOT FUNDS EXPENDED FIRST WITH SPLIT THE REMAINING REVENUE SPLIT 50, 50, WHICH OH, BY THE WAY, CONFLICTS WITH THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE THE 50, 50 SPLIT AT ALL BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE WAS DONE BEFORE THE CONTRACT WAS DONE.
BUT I HAVE A REMEDY FOR THAT. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT.
>> WELL, DON SAID IT OUT LAST NIGHT [OVERLAPPING].
BEFORE WE TAKE WE HAVE JOHN SPENT WAITING IN DAVID'S BEEN WAITING.
EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR POTENTIAL SOLUTION IS JOHN.
>> THANKS. THIS CONTRACT IS A SIX MONTH CONTRACT.
AS WE ADMINISTER IT, WE'RE GOING TO LEARN SOME STUFF.
I HAVEN'T TAUGHT YOU THIS BECAUSE I HARRIS ALREADY GRAY HAIRS IS GETTING THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO WRITE A YEARLY CONTRACT, PROBABLY IN A FEW WEEKS, WE'LL PICK IT UP.
I ANTICIPATE WOULD BE USED ON A YEARLY BASIS.
NOW, IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL, WE CAN PASS THIS APPOINTMENTS TODAY, MAKE IT EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1 AND LET THE CONTRACT GO WITH THE 50, 50 SPLIT ELIMINATED IN NEXT YEAR'S CONTRACT AND THEN EVERYBODY IS EQUALLY ON.
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>> WELL, I'LL TACKLE THE WORD ITS FIRST.
MY OPINION IS THAT IF THAT IT WOULD BE HOT SPLIT DOES NOT COME OUT HOT.
YOU SPEND $100,000 AND YOU MADE $200,000, $200,000 OR UNRESTRICTED.
THAT'S OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE ORDINANCES.
>> YOU WANT THE GROSS AMOUNT NOT SPLIT?
>> EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT THE ORDINANCE IS NOT WRITTEN [INAUDIBLE].
IT'S NOT REALLY THE RIGHT WAY, BUT THAT'S THAT'S HOW I WOULD WANT TO SEE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT [INAUDIBLE]. THAT'S MINE.
THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
[NOISE] WHEN IT COMES TO CITY HOT FUNDS, CITY FUNDS OR CITY MONEY THAT'S OUTSIDE OF PARK BOARD, WHICH DEALS WITH OUR RESERVE AND THE MONEY WE SPENT THAT IS RESTRICTED.
I THINK LAST MEETING, MIKE TOLD ME WE HAD SIX, EIGHT DOLLARS MILLION OF HOT IN OUR ACCOUNTS BEFORE THE SEAWOLF PARK BOARD ISSUE CAME UP.
THAT MONEY IS TRIVIAL, IS ALL TRICKLED DOWN?
>> THAT'S THE ONLY HALF WE HAD.
>> YOU'VE STATED IN HERE THAT, THAT WILL REMAIN HOT?
>> YES. THE REASON IS WE HAVE AN AG OPINION THAT DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THAT AND I'M ABOVE TO DISTURB THAT OPINION.
>> SOME OF THAT MONEY WE CURRENTLY SPEND ON MARDI GRAS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> COMES BACK IN AS HOT AND YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
>> NOW, JOHN, IF I COULD SAY, WELL, WHAT'S INVOLVED HERE THOUGH, LET'S TAKE THE TROLLEYS.
WE USE HOT MONEY FROM TRICKLED DOWN FOR THE TROLLEYS, BUT WE STILL ADVERTISE IT.
>> YEAH, THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION TOO.
THAT ADVERTISEMENT THAT COMES BACK IN REMAINS HOT.
>> COMES BACK IN THE TRICKLE-DOWN ACCOUNT.
>> AS OF CITY POLICY UP TILL TODAY, IT'S BEEN HOT.
>> BUT THAT'S HOW YOU HAVE IT WRITTEN HERE TOO?
>> WELL, HOW I HAVE IT WRITTEN THERE IS, ONCE THE HOT EXPANDED HAS BEEN REPLENISHED, THEN REMAINING REVENUE IS UNLISTED.
>> ONCE WE HAVE ENOUGH ADVERTISING TO PAY FOR THE OPERATION OF THE TROLLEYS [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S A POINT TO BE MADE THERE THOUGH.
>> SOME AVENUE WHERE IT'S THIS WAY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE TALKING, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE DE MINIMIS.
>> FOR THE TROLLEY OR ADVERTISING IT IS.
>> YOU'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE PARTNER OF THE MAGAZINE THAT WOULD CAUSE SOMEONE.
>> YOU'RE COMPETING WITH [OVERLAPPING] THE BILLBOARDS.
>> YOU'RE COMPETING WITH ANYBODY WHO'S GOT AN ADVERTISING BUDGET [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL, EXCUSE ME, DAVID. THIS MAY [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE CAN GET BACK THIS CONTRACT TO BUT I'LL WAIT.
I'M GLAD I'VE GOT THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
>> WELL, I WANT TO COVER BOTH AT ONE TIME.
I THINK THE NOTION OF JUST ENACTING THIS ORDINANCE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE CAN DO THAT.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF 50, 50, AND THAT BE GROSS.
THE ADVERTISING REVENUE, NET OR GROSS.
MR. GRAS AND MR SIMMONS WORKED VERY HARD TO GET US TO A POINT ON THIS CONTRACT WHERE I THINK THIS, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHETHER THE CARDBOARD PORTION OF THIS IS DE MINIMIS, BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 50, 50 VERSUS THE NET TO GROSS AND SO FORTH, THAT'S NOT WORTH BLOWING UP THE FAMILY ON.
WE WANT TO GET THIS DONE AT THIS MEETING TONIGHT.
YOU HAVE THE TRUSTEES THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS WITHOUT MODIFICATION, IF POSSIBLE, ON TUESDAY.
GET THIS CONTRACT SIGNED, GET THE CARDBOARD FUNDED FOR Q3, Q4.
IF WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THESE DEFINITIONS AMONG OTHER THINGS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THIS DEFINED BEFORE FIVE O'CLOCK TONIGHT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT SETTLED IN THIS LENGTH OF TIME.
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IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MONEY, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG A HURDLE TO CLIMB.WE CAN DEAL WITH IT BETWEEN NOW AND IN THE NEGOTIATION OVER THE NEW CONTRACT, DELAY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ORDINANCE OVER OCTOBER 1ST, SAY YES TO THIS CONTRACT, MOVE THIS ONE DOWN THE ROAD.
>> IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, DAVID, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HOT CONTRACT IS WRITTEN.
>> THEN ON THE ORDINANCE, VOTING ON THAT IS DEFERRING.
>> I SAY VOTE ON IT NOW TO BE EFFECTIVE ON OCTOBER 1ST, IF WE'RE NOT SATISFIED WHETHER WE CAN DEFER IT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T MATTER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
>> HOW MUCH DOES THE 50, 50 SPLIT ALREADY TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
>> BIG QUESTION IS GROSS VERSUS STOCK.
BECAUSE OF ITS GROSS, IT'S [OVERLAPPING].
>> EXCUSE ME, WHEN WE SAID LAST TIME, SOMEBODY SAID $400,000 FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S SEEN A GOOD PERSPECTIVE IS LIKE NO, THAT'S A LOT CLOSER TO $100,000. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S GROSS VERSUS NET BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] YOU COULD DO ANY OOPSIES TO YOUR NUMBERS AND MAKE YOUR NET FIGURE LOWER THAN WHAT IT IS.
THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE GROSS VERSUS NET IS A KEY QUESTION.
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> IT'S PEOPLE'S MONEY NO MATTER WHERE IT LANDS.
>> IT'S THE PEOPLE'S MONEY NO MATTER WHERE IT LANDS, SO I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
>> IT'S SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT, THEN WHY IS OUR ATTORNEY SAY IT'S A MUST-HAVE.
>> NO, WHEN HE SAID MUST HAVE, I BELIEVE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT MR. SIMMON'S COMPANY PUT INTO THIS AGREEMENT ON LATE LAST WEEK WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THEY WANTED TO SEE IN THE CONTRACT.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A DEAL KILLER.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $50,000, LEFT OR RIGHT BETWEEN HERE.
>> I THINK IT'S MORE THAN $50,000.
>> I'VE NOT SEEN ANY INDICATION THAT IT WAS $50,000.
>> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF MONEY EVEN IF WE CONSIDER GROSS MONEY, IF IT'S WE'RE CONSIDERING NET, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE VERY LITTLE OR NONE.
>> I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES IN HAND, BUT MY STRONG SUITS IS THE SPECIFIC REVENUES WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE CONTRACT IS 90, 95.
MOST OF WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT GROSS VERSUS NET, WHAT HAVE YOU, THE REVENUES WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS THE BULK OF WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.
THE IDEA WAS, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MY SENSE HAS BEEN THE PARK BOARD HAS LONG RECOGNIZED WE SHOULD BE SHARING THIS MONEY WITH THE CITY.
THIS IS REVENUE THAT THE PARK BOARD IS GENERATING THROUGH ITS EFFORTS, THROUGH ITS EMPLOYEES.
THEY ARE ENGAGING IN ACTIVITY AND ENERGY TO GENERATE THESE FUNDS.
YOU DON'T WANT TO KILL, NO ONE WANTS TO KILL THAT INCENTIVE.
THE QUESTION IS YOU'RE NEGOTIATING A MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE AGREEMENT.
WHAT WORKS FOR BOTH SIDES? DON AND I HAMMERED OUT THE 50, 50 SPLIT, IT'S EQUAL.
IT TAKES A LOT OF DEBATE OUT OF IT.
LAWYERS COULD DEBATE ALL DAY LONG WHAT'S THE LEGAL CHARACTERIZATION OF THESE EXCESS FUNDS EARNED THROUGH ADVERTISING, EARNED THROUGH SPONSORSHIPS? [OVERLAPPING].
>> I KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE REVENUE THAT'S DERIVED FROM SEAWOLF PARK THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> SEAWOLF IS NOT HOT REVENUE.
>> IT'S NOT HOT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHARING 50, 50.
>> NOT APPLY HERE, [OVERLAPPING] DOES NOT APPLY HERE.
>> THIS DOES NOT MAKE [OVERLAPPING].
NO, THAT'S NOT IT. IT IS ACTUALLY NOT, IT'S CITY PARK BOARD REVENUE.
>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT REVENUE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'LL JUST SAY FINALLY THAT WE'VE DONE THIS LONG ENOUGH.
WE NEED TO GET SIGNATURE ON THIS, TRUSTEES NEED A SIGNATURE ON THIS.
WE NEED TO GET THIS FUNDING DONE ON APRIL 1ST.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO BLOW THE DEAL.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT WHOLE HEARTEDLY, I THINK WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT STAFF WILL BOTH SIGN AND OUR TWO ATTORNEYS HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY ON.
I THINK WE NEED TO APPROVE THAT AND WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
>> BUT TO SAY THAT 50, 50 IS MANDATORY, WAS MANDATORY FROM THE PARK BOARD SIDE.
IT WASN'T MANDATORY FROM THE CITY'S SIDE.
>> WHO CARES? THE CITIZENS CARE.
I'M UP HERE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS, THAT'S MY JOB.
THAT'S WHAT THEY VOTED ME IN TO DO.
>> MY ADVICE IS PLEASE HOLD THAT THOUGHT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING YOU IN HERE LOCAL AND THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO.
>> THE INNER LOCAL WILL BE ADDRESSING ALL THAT AND CURRENTLY DOES.
THE CURRENT INNER LOCALS I THINK ADDRESSED BY PARKING ON THE SEAWOLF AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> DON, HOW WOULD THAT LOOK TONIGHT IF COUNCIL SAID WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO DO THE 50,50 SPLIT, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THE 100?
>> YOU CAN DO THAT, JUST VOTE AGAINST IT.
>> WE COULD AMEND THE MOTION, HAVE A NEW MOTION.
THERE IS NO VEHICLE THROUGH WHICH THE CITY FUNDS THE PARK BOARD.
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WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AGAINST THIS DEADLINE TO FUND THEM FOR TWO QUARTERS BEGINNING ON APRIL 1ST.>> WHY DON'T WE JUST [OVERLAPPING] AND WE CAN ADDRESS IT IN THE NEXT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION ACROSS YOUR MAP BECAUSE ANYBODY CAN MANIPULATE A LINE ITEM TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING TO READ.
>> THEN WE CAN DO THAT IN FURTHER NEGOTIATION.
>> YOU [OVERLAPPING] TAKEN AT NIGHT.
>> JUST ADD IN GROSS REVENUES SO IT MAKES IT EASY.
>> DAN AND I WORKED PRETTY CAREFULLY ON PARSING OUT THIS LANGUAGE TO AVOID CONFUSION OVER WHAT REVENUES MIGHT BE INCLUDED AND NOT INCLUDED.
WE DID NOT GET INTO A DEEP DISCUSSION OF GROSS VERSUS NET AND FRANKLY, BECAUSE MY SENSE HAS BEEN THAT ANALYSIS DOESN'T MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.
THE REVENUES AT ISSUE ARE THE REVENUES.
THE ADDITIONAL REVENUES GENERATED AT ISSUE ARE THE REVENUES WE'VE HARDWIRED INTO DISAGREEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW THE GROSS VERSUS NET.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT.
>> UNLESS IT IS ADDRESSED IN THIS DEAL.
>> RIGHT, AND THE ONLY OTHER POINT I GUESS I WOULD MAKE IS IN TERMS OF BENEFITING THE CITIZENS, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS 50/50 SPLIT UNDER THE ORDINANCE.
IF THE PARK BOARD'S EFFORTS TO GENERATE THESE ADDITIONAL REVENUES IS COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM THE PARK BOARD UNDER THE ORDINANCE, YOU KILLING THE INCENTIVE TO GENERATE THOSE REVENUES WHICH DO BENEFIT THE CITY, WHICH DO BENEFIT CITIZENS.
IT SEEMS TO ME THE PART WHERE IT SHOULD BE REWARDED FOR ITS INGENUITY EFFORTS, STAFF TO GENERATE THOSE REVENUES AND A 50/50 SPLIT.
I FELT DOWN AND I WORKED THAT MIGHT BE A FAIR COMPROMISE ON THAT.
>> AS I GO THROUGH THE CONTRACT AND I LOOK AT PERCENTAGES AND THEN I CAN'T HELP BUT LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THE AMOUNT OF TAX THAT IS CREATED BY MY DISTRICT, 20 MILES OF THE OUTLINE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE HUD TAX PERCENTAGES, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER 57 PERCENT OF THE HUD TAX CAME FROM SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
MORE THAN HALF OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR IN DISTRICT 6, HIGHER NIGHTLY, PERHAPS EAST BEACH WOULD BE ON EQUAL DISTRICT 2 AND THEN I LOOK AT THE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE THINGS IN THE CONTRACT.
ONE WOULD BE TOO SENSE FOR BEACH CLEANING.
YET THAT'S PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE SEAWALL.
IT'S NOT THE REST OF THE BEACH DON'T, I MEAN, YEAH.
TRASH CAN'T GET MD LARGE LOGS WILL EVENTUALLY BE PICKED UP.
BUT THERE'S SOME LIFE GUARDS, THERE'S NO SERVICES THAT YOU SEE IN THE CITY AND THAT CAUSES ME CONCERNED THAT 50/50 CLAUSES BEING CONCERNED, NOT TALKING GROSS OR NET.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT THIS.
EVERYBODY JUST WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE.
I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE WAY THIS LANGUAGE READS, AND AS FAR AS SURFACES OR WHAT BENEFITS MY CITIZENS OR DISTRICT 6 CITIZENS WHO WITH HOTELS AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS PROBABLY HAS 60 PERCENT OF THE HUD TAX.
>> WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH A FRAMEWORK OF WHICH IS BEYOND OUR CONTROL.
SOME OF THIS WAS CONTROLLED BY THE CHARTER.
THE 3% COMES FROM THE CHARTER, THE 2 PERCENT AS I UNDERSTAND IT COMES FROM THE STATE AND IS DEPENDENT ON THE EXISTENCE OF A PARK BOARD AND IS DEDICATED TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE SPEECHES.
WE HAVE THE 32 MILES OF BEACHES.
>> AGAIN, NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE IS MAINTAIN THE ARTBOARDS INCENTIVE TO GENERATE THESE ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND SHARE THEM WITH THE CITY AND ULTIMATELY WITH THE RESONANCE ON A FAIR BASIS.
>> I HEAR EVERYTHING YOU SAY AND NONE OF IT IS GERMANE TO THIS CONTRACT.
THIS 50/50 IS IN ESSENTIALLY IT'S ALL IN THE CPP.
WHEREVER IT LANDS [INAUDIBLE] BUT WHAT WOULD COST YOU A HECK OF A LOT MORE IS
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NOT HAVING AN AGREEMENT ON APRIL 1ST AND HAVING [NOISE] CHIEF DAVIS SCRAMBLING TO STAFF THE SUMMER WITHOUT GUARANTEED FUNDING, IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT.>> WELL, YOU SAID THAT BUT THEN YOU CAN'T HELP BUT LOOK JUST SAY THERE ISN'T ANY FUNDS TO STAY OFF.
[OVERLAPPING] YES THEY HAVE 4 MILLION TO BUILD A BUILDING WHICH THEY NEED.
I MEAN ONE THING IS SAYING THAT, THIS IS NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD.
TECHNICALLY, WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CURRENT WITH THAT BUT IF WE, MY GUESS, WE NEED THE CONTRACT AND MOVE FORWARD, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO ACCEPT BAD TERMS JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TIRED OF DEALING WITH IT.
>> WELL, I DON'T THINK WE COULD GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS MATTER THE FACT IS IT'S ON OUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON.
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT, WE WILL ADDRESS IT AS WE MOVE TO DIE THIS AFTERNOON.
>> I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK COUNCIL IS MAKING COMMENTS ON THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED OF IT.
I THINK COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THIS SUBJECT BETTER THAN WE HAVE TWO MONTHS AGO.
PERSONALLY, I THINK THIS DECIDE OF THIS BEFORE US FOR THE CONTRACT IS WELL DONE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT PERSONALLY I'M GOING TO.
THE CONTRACT IS A GROSS REVENUE CONTRACT.
IT SET UP THAT WAY TO BE A GROSS REVENUE TYPE CONTRACT.
>> WELL, ANYWAY AND LET'S CLARIFY THAT THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS.
ANY REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED IF IT COST, YOU'RE NOT PAYING THE HUD EXTENDED BACK, YOU'RE TAKING ANY REVENUE GENERATED IS THAT CORRECT?
>> IF YOU LOOK ON THE AGREEMENT, IT SAYS [OVERLAPPING] IT SAYS ADDITIONAL REVENUES.
>> OKAY. ADDITIONAL REVENUES WILL BE SHARED LIMITED TO THE REVENUE DERIVED FROM HUD SUPPORTED ACTIVITIES.
>> WHERE ARE YOU READING THAT EXACTLY ON THIS?
>> TOWARD GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE BEYOND ITS EXPENDITURE OF HUD.
>> BUT ABOVE IT STATES THAT ANY REVENUE RECEIVED BY THE PARK BOARD AS THE RESULT OF THE EXPENDITURE OF HUD SHALL BE CONSIDERED NON-HUD NON-RESTRICTIVE FUNDS.
>> THAT WAS YOUR LANGUAGE. I CHOSE NOT TO DELETE IT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE PERIPHERAL CORRECTLY.
>> TO MEAN THE SECOND IS THE RELEVANT.
>> I AGREE. WOULD YOU AGREE TO READ THAT FIRST PARAMETER.
>> HI YOU THE BIG BUCKS MAYBE.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO AGREE THAT THIS ADDITIONAL REVENUE GENERATED IS UNRESTRICTED. OKAY.
>> THAT'S HOW I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.
>> YEAH, SO THAT MAY BE THE ONLY SENTENCE WHERE WE SAY THAT.
>> THAT ANY REVENUE DERIVED FROM HUD IS UNRESTRICTED.
>> FOR THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WOULD MEAN CHANGING THE ORDINANCE.
>> YOU WRITE THE FIRST SENTENCE?
>> THAT'S WHAT I ORIGINALLY HAD WRITTEN.
>> SO DOESN'T IMPLY GROSS VERSUS NET?
>> THAT ACTUALLY IS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M NOT TRYING THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THIS AND I BROUGHT IT TO US.
>> BUT IF TWO LAWYERS ARE HERE AND THEY'RE CONFUSED BY WHAT IS ON THIS CONTRACT.
ONE IS SAYING ONE THING, ONE IS SAYING ANOTHER.
>> I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THE REVENUE SHARING.
ITS REVENUE GENERATED FROM SPONSORSHIPS AND ADVERTISING SALES IS GOING TO BE SHARED 50/50, THAT'S THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH. THAT'S THE OPERATIVE LANGUAGE.
>> BUT I DO FEEL COUNCIL BOUVIER HE MENTIONED THERE IS SOME CONFLICTING THINGS IN HERE.
TO ME, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> HAVE A STRIKE THAT FIRST ONE.
>> WELL, I'M NOT SURE MIKEY, JOHN DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AND [OVERLAPPING].
[03:50:02]
>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU TAKE JUST FOR THIS CONTRACT ONE WE WERE DOING BEFORE.
HAVE HAD IT AGAIN, YOU TAKE OUT THE WORDS BEYOND ITS EXPENDITURE OF HUD.
>> THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM WITH THIS TONIGHT.
>> YOU NEED TO TAKE OUT ITS EXPENDITURE OF HUD.
>> IF YOU REMOVE THAT, THEN WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
>> THEY GOT THOSE WORDS. YOUR TALKING GROWS AND WE'LL WORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> TAKE THOSE LINES OUT THEY BOTH SAY GROSS.
>> MY THOUGHT IS THIS IS A VERY SHORT-TERM AGREEMENT.
I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHUMP CHANGE IT IN TERMS OF THE CHANGES WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAKE ON THE FLY.
>> LET'S JUST DO WHAT THEY WANT AND BELOW.
>> OR [LAUGHTER] LEAVE IT AS IS AND MOVE ALONG.
>> WELL, I THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE OUT ONE OF THOSE SENTENCES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ONE OR THE OTHER HAS TO COME OUT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] EXCEPT THE REVENUE SHARING FOOD UPON THE YEAR.
>>NO. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH REVENUE SHARING.
WHAT I'M ASKING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REVENUE SHARE, JUST HAS TO DO WITH CALLING IT HUD OR SO.
>> OKAY, SO HERE'S WHAT I TEND TO LAUNCH.
HERE'S A THOUGHT, IF EVERYONE HAS THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME I THINK.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM PARAGRAPH ON PAGE 3.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM PARAGRAPH ON PAGE 3.
IF WE REVISE THIS TO SAY IN THE SECOND SENTENCE, THE CITY AND PART BOARD AGREE THAT SUCH ADDITIONAL REVENUES ARE UNRESTRICTED AND SHALL BE SHARED AND WILL BE SHARED.
>> BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T REFER IF IT'S BEFORE OR AFTER THE EXPENDITURE OF HOT.
WHAT THESE TWO SENTENCES ARE SAYING, ONE SAYING, SPIN THE HOT, WHATEVER REVENUE COMES GENERATED AFTER THAT IS NOW NON-RESTRICTED, NOT HOT.
THE OTHER SENTENCES SPIN THE HOT, THE REVENUE COMES OUT, WE HAVE TO REIMBURSE THE HOT AND WHATEVER'S LEFT.
>> WHICH THEN MAKES THE FIFTY-FIFTY SPLIT EVEN [OVERLAPPING] LESS VIABLE BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> MR. SIMMONS IS RIGHT. GOODNESS GRACIOUS.
WE'RE NOT TALKING [LAUGHTER] ABOUT HARLEY ANYMORE.
>> I DON'T THINK SO. I DISAGREE, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A DOLLAR, IT'S THE PRINCIPLE.
IT'S THE JUDICIARY RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT DOLLAR.
IF YOU SAY IT'S 50 CENTS, IT'S STILL A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY.
I LIKE TO PICK FOUR. THAT'S NICE.
BUT SAY IT'S 100,000, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] I'M SORRY.
[OVERLAPPING] WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL ABOUT HAVING 100 PERCENT AND THEN YOU ALLOCATE ON THE BUDGET?
>> NOBODY IS SENDING THIS MONEY TO DALLAS.
>> IN ANOTHER DAY YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> I'M TIRED OF THAT CAR WONDERING WHY THIS IS A MUST-HAVE.
CAN I GET THAT ANSWERED BY ANYONE?
>> OH WE WERE TOLD BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT THIS WAS A MUST-HAVE [OVERLAPPING] IN THIS CONTRACT.
WHY IS THIS A MUST-HAVE IF IT'S SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT?
>> IT'S NOT A MUST HAVE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEY HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON THIS AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
>> COMING TOGETHER ON A CONTRACT.
>> THAT'S A MUST HAVE BY [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU DON'T THINK SO, THEN DON'T VOTE FOR IT. THAT'S PURE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'LL, BECAUSE WERE PUT UNDER A GUN WITH IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR THIS AND IT FAILS.
HOW DO WE FUND THE REST OF THE STUFF THAT THIS-.
>> WHO HAS THE UPPER EDGE? I DON'T MEAN TO PUT IT THAT WAY, BUT DON'T FORGET WHO APPOINTS THE PARK BOARD AND WHO THE FORMAL REPRESENTS.
>> CAN I ASK YOU TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> COUNCILMAN BOUVIER HE WAS HALFWAY THROUGH A SENTENCE.
>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHETHER YOU CALL IT RESTRICTED NON RESTRICTED, HOT OR NOT HOT.
THE MONEY IS NOT GOING TO BE SPENT ON THINGS THAT AREN'T THE PURPOSE OF THE BUDGET THAT WE APPROVE IN THE BEGINNING.
IF YOU'RE JUST SHUFFLING PEANUTS AROUND.
AT THE END OF THE DAY [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S PROVEN TO NOT BE TRUE, OR YOU WENT OVER THE PARK BOARD, WOULDN'T SPEND 200,000 ON AN ATTORNEY THAT WAS NEVER APPROVED.
THAT'S SIMPLY ISN'T TRUE OR YOU WOULDN'T HAVE NUMBERS THAT DON'T ADD UP IN YOUR BALANCE SHEET.
[03:55:02]
TO SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT ON WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT, WHEN WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ISSUES.>> WE'VE SEEN ONE ISSUE RECENTLY.
THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAVE REVIEWED THE PROCESS OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED IN THE FUTURE.
>> I CAN'T BE CAVALIER ABOUT $200,000.
>> THAT WOULD PAY FOR THE THREE-QUARTERS OF THE LIGHTS AT THE BALLPARK THAT OUR CITIZENS USE.
>> THERE'S A LEGAL POINT HERE, AND TELL ME IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE.
REASONABLE, WELL-EDUCATED LAWYERS CAN DEBATE THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE FUNDS GENERATED BY THE PARK BOARD, THROUGH THE USE OF HIGH FUNDS, THESE ADVERTISING REVENUES, SPONSORSHIP REVENUES, REASONABLE LAWYERS CAN DEBATE THE CHARACTER OF THOSE FUNDS.
>> I THINK THAT WAS THE MESSAGE SCOTT CHOSE BROUGHT TO US ALL.
YOUR A LAWYER. I'M A LAWYER. THERE'S NO STATUTE.
>> WE HAVE THREE OPINIONS GO UP THERE.
THERE'S NO STATUTE, THAT I'VE SEEN.
THERE'S NO CASE LAW THAT I'VE SEEN THAT ADDRESSES THIS SCENARIO. WHAT ARE WE LEFT WITH? YOU HAVE THE PARK BOARDS POSITION THAT THEY HAVE STAFF AND THEY'RE ENGAGING EFFORTS AND ENERGY TO GENERATE THESE REVENUES.
THEY'RE WILLING TO SHARE THOSE WITH THE CITY.
FROM CHATTING WITH DON MY SENSE WAS IF THE CITY HAD THE FUNDS, THE CITY WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER SHARING THOSE REVENUES WITH PARK BOARD.
RATHER THAN HAVING A DEBATE ABOUT WHO CONTROLS IT, WHO SHARES IT.
IN THE ABSENCE OF CLEAR CASE LAW CLEAR STATUTORY LAW AND THAT VOID.
WHY NOT AGREE TO SPLIT IT FIFTY-FIFTY EVERYONE WINS.
>> THAT'S HOW I MIGHT'VE BEEN LAW.
>> I HAVE NO DATE ON THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON IF WE ARE RESTRICTING THESE FUNDS, OR NOT RESTRICTING THIS FUNDS.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A CITY ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THAT.
THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THIS CONTRACT.
WE HAVE A SENTENCE IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES GROSS OR NET ON HOT FUNDS, ON REVENUE HOT FUNDS.
>> I THINK IT SAYS THAT THE NET IS NON-RESTRICTIVE IN BUT YOU HAVE TO READ [OVERLAPPING]
>> FOLDED WITH YOUR ARMS LIKE THIS.
>> I COULD SAYS WHERE CITY POLICY, WE WILL CONSIDER UNRESTRICTED REVENUE, INVEST THOSE FUNDS IN EXCESS OF THE AMOUNT OF HOT FUNDS EXPENDED.
>> AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IF YOU ALL HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THIS CONTRACT, I'M HAPPY WITH THAT.
I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT IT SAYS.
IF YOU ALL AGREE WITH THAT, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
BUT I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE THIS CONTROVERSY IN THIS DEBATE OVER THESE FUNDS.
WHEN WE SEE A BUDGET, SOMEBODY SAYS, OH NO, THIS IS UNRESTRICTED AND SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS THIS IS RESTRICTED.
THAT'S WHAT I SEE RIGHT NOW IN THE CONTRACT.
>> IT'S A COUNCILMAN BOUVIER'S POINT NUMBER 1 IT'S A SPOT, JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE WHO'VE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS WILL AGREE THIS IS THE SMALL AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
>> IT'S AMAZING TO ME THAT NOBODY HAS THE NUMBER, I COULD DISCUSS THAT FOR 600 YEARS.
>> BUT TO COUNCILMEMBER BOUVIER'S POINT, THE FUNDS ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO BE USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHARTER, TAX LAW, BUDGET.
IT'S NOT AS IF THESE FUNDS ARE VANISHING [NOISE] AND IT'S A SHORT-TERM AGREEMENT.
WE'RE DRILLING DOWN ON A VERY COMPLEX ESOTERIC ISSUE THAT'S PROBABLY WORTHY OF QUITE A BIT OF [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WOULD AGREE. MY QUESTION IS, AND I'M STILL HASN'T BEEN CLEAR IN MY MIND.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO PASS AN ORDINANCE TONIGHT.
I DON'T WANT IT UNDERSTAND THAT THOUGH.
>> I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. I THINK WE'VE GOT POLICY AND CONTRACT CONFLICTING AND WE NEED TO GET CONTRACT APPROVED.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO WRITE AS CONTRACT APPROVED.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE PASSING AN ORDINANCE IS GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT.
WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT ORDINANCE IF WE NEED TO IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THE KEY IS THE HOT CONTRACT.
>> WHAT I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ON THE ORDINANCE.
I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO THIS EVERYTHING HERE.
[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] THE ONE BENEFIT I HAVE AT LEAST AS FRESH AS AN OUTSIDER LOOKING IN AND THAT'S WHAT'S THE ONLY BENEFIT I BRING TO THE TABLE.
AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS, TRYING TO THINK OBJECTIVELY, LOOKING AT IT FROM BOTH SIDES.
I WOULDN'T THINK THE CITY WOULD WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD DISINCENTIVIZE THE PART WORKED FROM GENERATING THIS EXTRA MONEY.
[04:00:05]
I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN ANSWER OR DECLARATION ON THAT TODAY, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN ORDINANCE LIKE THE ONE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY.I'M NOT TELLING THE CITY WHAT TO DO, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU'RE DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE OF THAT TYPE.
HOW DO YOU ALIGN THE INCENTIVES? HOW DO YOU KEEP PEOPLE MOTIVATED? WHAT'S BEST FOR EVERYBODY?
>> I WAS ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS REVENUE SHARING IDEA UP AT THE LAST MINUTE.
I'M NOT PROBABLY NOT THE ONE WHO HAD THE IDEA, BUT I'VE DEFINITELY TALKED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
I'M FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES INCENTIVIZE THE SMART BOARD TO MAKE US MORE MONEY SO WE CAN USE THAT MONEY TO DO WE NEED TO WITHIN THE CITY.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THAT WE SAW THESE NUMBERS WHEN WE FIRST GOT A BUDGET FROM THE PARK BOARD AND THERE WAS A DEBATE OVER FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS HOW MUCH OF IT WAS RESTRICTED? HOW MUCH IS NON-RESTRICTED AND WHERE IT GOES.
BUT THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE SAW ON PAPER THAT'S STILL FRESH IN OUR MINDS ON THIS ISSUE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] $50,000, FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.
>> IT WAS ADVERTISING REVENUE.
>> DON TO BE CLEAR, THIS ORDINANCE AND LEARNING THIS ORDINANCE, I SHOULD SAY THE HOT CONTRACT, IT DOESN'T GRANDFATHER ANYTHING IN THOSE MONIES HAVE COME OVER AS HOT. THEY'RE STAYING HOT.
>> I CAN TAKE OUT THE WORDS ON PAGE 3 BEYOND ITS EXPENDITURE OF HOT.
>> IN MY OPINION, THAT WOULD BE CLARIFY THIS THING.
>> I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO THAT.
>> WELL, WE GO ON TO DEFINE THAT REVENUE AS SPONSORSHIP AND ADVERTISING.
>> TAKE THOSE OUT. THEY'LL BE HAPPY.
>> TO TAKE THOSE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WORDS OUT CITY COUNCIL WILL BE HAPPY.
>> FOR US LEARNING THE HAPPY BUSINESSES.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A MOMENT TO CONFER WITH MY CLIENT, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS I WOULD RECOMMEND MR. SIMMONS GOOD WITH DON AND HIS CLIENT AND DETERMINE HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO BRING IN THE DIFFERENT ORDINANCE OR AMENDED ORDINANCE TO COUNCIL AND MAKES SURE THAT'S STARTED CALM DOWN.
>> I HAVE NOT READ THE ORDERS, BUT THE CONTRACT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WOULD JUST SUGGEST WE STRIKE THOSE FEW WORDS, EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
>> TO CHAT ABOUT THAT IN THE ENTREPRENEURIAL.
>> WERE NOT. WELL, BRING THAT BACK JUST TONIGHT.
>> YOU CAN BRING THOSE BACK TO US TONIGHT WHEN WE VOTE ON THIS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] PERSONALLY, YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM.
I WANT TO MAKE AN EDITORIAL STATEMENT HERE.
YOU'RE STARTING UP TO WORK ON THIS NEW ONE NOW COMING UP HERE SHORTLY.
>> THAT WAS MY ATTEMPT. I HADN'T TOLD HIM THAT WE GOT TO GET YOU OUT OF THE LOCAL.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS HOT CONTRACT SQUARED AWAY BEFORE WE HAVE TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT IT FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT DOING THE HOT CONTRACTORS AS AN EVERGREEN TIME DOCUMENT.
>> IT'S A BUDGET DOCUMENT AND WE ADOPT THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR.
>> DOES IT HAVE TO BE ADOPTED NEW EVERY YEAR?
>> I BELIEVE THAT UNDER THE STATE LAW, YOU CANNOT GIVES THEM MONEY FUNDS WITHOUT A CONTRACT, AND THAT IMPLIES I DO CONTRACT EACH TIME.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] PEOPLE.
>> ESTIMATE THAT DID NOT UNDERSTAND. I DIDN'T.
>> WHERE DID WE GET WITH THE BEYOND LANGUAGE?
>> ANSWER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MIGHT.
>> ADD JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK.
THIS IS A SIX MONTH CONTRACT, SO THE NEXT CONTRACT, IS IT GOING TO LOOK TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THIS OR IS IT GOING TO JUST BE A MODIFIED VERSION OF THIS?
>> I DON'T KNOW, YOU WANT TO START OVER? [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> LET'S EXCHANGE 5,000 RED LINES AND [OVERLAPPING].
[04:05:02]
>> I SAID, WE WILL PROBABLY LEARN SOME THINGS FROM THIS DOCUMENT, AND IF WE LEARN SOMETHING, WE'LL PROBABLY WANT TO CHANGE IT.
>> IT IS THIS DATE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE IN MARCH, IS THIS HAS TO BE DONE IN MARCH.
CAN YOU SWITCH THAT AROUND BECAUSE PREPARING THE BUDGET FOR YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE THE CONTRACT AND YOU HAVE THE BUDGET MOVE IN THE SAME TIME.
CAN YOU MAKE THE CONTRACT HERE SO THAT THE BUDGET IN MARCH, APRIL, MAY, CAN BE DEVELOPED?
>> THIS IS WRITTEN PURSUANT TO A PREVIOUS CONTRACT IN WHICH CITY COUNCIL TENTATIVELY ADOPTED THIS YEAR'S HOT BUDGET OF THE CONTRACT.
>> I WOULD SAY IN ENTROPY OF THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.
THIS IS THE TEMPLATE FROM WHICH WE OUGHT BE WORKING.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO SEE THIS COMPLETELY.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT THE NEXT TIME WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO TO NEGOTIATE THIS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR LITTLE, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE SAME TIME, THE BUDGETS GOING ON.
>> BECAUSE THEY LISTEN, I'M DOING SEPTEMBER 28TH, WHAT DO YOU SAY? I'M JUST MOVING THE NEW AND ALONG AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IS WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING I'M SAYING?
>> IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE INTERLOCK.
WE CAN'T DO ONE OR THE OTHER [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S GOING TO BE DONE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE BUDGET, IS IT NOT?
>> YES. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY BUDGET, AND THIS WAS A POINT OF CONTENTION, WAS TO HAVE THEM SUBMIT THEIR HOT BUDGET ON AUGUST 1ST.
I WANTED THE 31ST, BUT THEY GAVE US THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS ONE THING.
AFTER SEPTEMBER 2023, IS THE HAGANAH BE COLLECTED LIKE AUTOMATED OR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> I DID NOT CONTEMPLATE IT THIS TIME, AND IT CHANGED HOW IT'S COLLECTED.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NEW CONTRACT.
>> NO, THIS JUST SAYS KEEP COLLECTING IT.
IF HE DOES, WE WOULD DO COLLECTION AND THEY HIT YOUR VOCAL AS I RECALL IT BECAUSE THAT'S AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE.
>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN BY THE REVENUE SHARE WILL BE COMPLETED AS A PART OF THE YEARLY TUNE UP PROCESS?
>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REVENUE IS GOING TO BE.
BUT THE WAY MIKE AND BRYSON, THEY SET UP A LOT OF THESE PROCEDURES.
AT THE END, THEY SIT TOGETHER AND THEY LOOK AT THE FISCAL YEAR WHICH HAS PASSED, AND THEY CHEW UP THE FIGURES BECAUSE THERE ARE APPARENTLY ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE MADE TO HOT COLLECTIONS OR WHATEVER.
THEY COME DOWN AND THEY AGREE WITH WHAT THE EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN.
>> THAT'S TRUE OF EVERY CITY FUNDS, WE TALKED THROUGH.
>> DOES THAT MEAN THESE REVENUES ARE TO REMAIN WITH THE PARK BOARD? ARE WE LOOKING AT HAVING THEM TURNAROUND IN 14 DAYS TO GIVE IT BACK?
>> NO, IT REMAINS BECAUSE WE JUST DID JUST PUT IT IN A CHEW UP PROCESS.
>> THEN THE AUDITS, IS THAT EVERY AUDIT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL VOTES ON OR IS INTERNAL AUDITS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON?
>> TO USE OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR, YOU HAVE TO PROVE HIS AUDIT PLAN, SO EITHER WAY YOU VOTE ON IT.
>> BUT SO THE CITY CAN'T JUST BY THEMSELVES COLLECTIVELY GO AND DO AN AUDIT?
>> I THINK IT'S MORE ACCURATE TO SAY THE CITY, [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK IT'S MORE ACCURATE TO SAY THE CITY MANAGER CANNOT UNILATERALLY DO IT.
CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE IT.
IF WE DECIDE TO USE THE INTERNAL AUDITOR OR HIRE IT OUT, YOU GUYS HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
IF WE WOULD USE AN EXTERNAL AUDITOR, YOU'D HAVE TO APPROVE IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THAT'S AN EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS.
>> COULD I ASK A QUESTION? WAS THERE SOMETHING IN THE CONTRACT ABOUT A 14-DAY?
>> NO, THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.
SORRY. BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS GOING TO GO.
>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.
MR. SANDERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> IT IS 1:15 PM, WE ARE GOING TO RETIRE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[BACKGROUND] EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU.
[04:10:07]
COUNSEL, WHAT YOU READ THROUGH YOU PLEASE?[3.H. Discussion Of The Format For Upcoming Park Board Interviews (Brown - 10 Min)]
>> CREATE DISCUSSION OF THE FORMAT FOR US FOR OUR COORDINATOR.
>> WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON, POSSIBLY GO TO A MAY 1ST.
[BACKGROUND] WE'RE GOING TO EXACTLY KNOW TO POSSIBLY GO TO MAY 1ST.
WE MAY HAVE QUITE A FEW APPLICANTS THIS YEAR.
IF WE HAVE A NUMBER OF APPLICANTS, DOES THE COUNCIL STILL WANT TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE THOSE OR TO INTERVIEW THOSE APPLICANTS AS WE HAVE IF WE HAVE 30 APPLICANTS WERE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 6-7 HOURS OF INTERVIEWS COMING UP FOR THAT.
I PERSONALLY THINK WE MAY HAVE 30 APPLICANTS OR MORE COMING UP.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE WITH THE STANDARD EQUATION AND THEN DATA.
>> FOR THE APPOINTMENTS OR INTERVIEWS?
>> WE HAVE TO DO INTERVIEWS IN [BACKGROUND].
BUT THE APPOINTMENTS ON OUR REGULAR MEETING.
>> THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO INTERVIEW EVERYONE? AND WE JUST WE DEBATED THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THE ANSWER WAS, YES.
>> BECAUSE THERE WAS THE YEAR THAT YOU ALL DID WELL.
>> UNTIL 2019, HE WAS WORRIED.
I DON'T THINK WE INTERVIEWED AT ALL.
>> WELL, WE ARE INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR A LONG TIME.
>> AT ONE POINT, WE SENT OUT WHEN WRITTEN QUESTIONS FOR CANDIDATES TO RESPOND TO THEM AND THEN WE REDUCE THE NUMBER TO INTERVIEW.
>> THEN WE ACTUALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF RE-INTERVIEW?
>> WELL, WE MAY HAVE JUST TAKING IT FROM THE WRITTEN QUESTIONS [OVERLAPPING].
>> IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT WAS A WRITTEN APPLICATION.
WE REVIEWED ON NARROW THAT DOWN BASED OFF THE WRITTEN ONE.
>> BUT WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER CHALLENGES TO INTERVIEW THIS PERSON WITH THEM?
>> OR A VOTING SYSTEM, I'M NOT SURE.
>> WELL, THE QUESTION IS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT FEELING OF WANTING TO INTERVIEW THESE APPLICANTS AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. I WOULD AGREE.
>> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT, COUNCIL? IT IS 01:18 PM.
[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
WE ARE GOING TO RETIRE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.072 EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THAT ACQUISITION OF REAL ESTATE, THE CITY OF GALVESTON, AND PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551071, CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY AND EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE CONDUCTED TO DISCUSS AND RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE CONCERNING PENDING LITIGATION INDOOR A SETTLEMENT OFFER, OR ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER RELATED TO PRESENTATION OF INFORMATION INVOLVING CERTAIN PRODUCERS IN MIDSTREAM PROVIDERS OR NATURAL GAS, RESULTING IN ECONOMIC HARM TO END-USERS INCLUDING GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AND PROPOSED LITIGATION.WE ARE NOW RETIRED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE ARE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE GONE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.