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HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

[Landmark Commission on March 20, 2023. ]

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TODAY IS MONDAY, MARCH 20TH, 2023, AND THE TIME IS 4:00.

WE TAKE AN ATTENDANCE BY SIGN IN SHEET AND HAVE ALTERNATES THAT ARE VOTING TODAY.

AND CONNIE PATTERSON IS NOT HERE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF OUR CASES TODAY? NO. OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR MARCH 6TH MEETING.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS, CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? NOW. OKAY.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL ADOPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION WITH PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEMS? NO. DID WE RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED.

ALL RIGHT. SO MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE'LL START WITH THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

CASE NUMBER 23LC-005 805 12TH STREET.

OKAY. SO THIS IS AS STATED AT 805 12TH STREET.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND NOTE THERE'LL BE BASICALLY TWO CASES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

THE FIRST IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED PORCH.

THE SECOND ONE WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE ASSOCIATED LICENSE TO USE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE DESIGN WITH THE COA.

SO THERE WERE FOUR PUBLIC NOTICES SENT AND NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ADD A SMALL COVERED PORCH AND STAIRS AROUND AN EXISTING DOOR.

A PROPOSED ADDITION IS APPROXIMATELY FOUR FEET WIDE AND EIGHT FOOT LONG.

EXCLUDING THE STAIR TREADS THEMSELVES, THE HOUSE IS PRETTY CLOSE TO GRADE, SO THE STAIRS ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT.

IT WOULD BE ENTIRELY OF WOOD CONSTRUCTION.

THIS WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING CONCRETE STEPS THAT ARE NOT HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL NOT AFFECT THE EXISTING DOORS OR WINDOWS.

NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL ENCROACH THE 12TH STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THUS THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH WILL COME UP HERE IN JUST A BIT.

PLEASE ALSO NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SO STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION IS OF WOOD.

IT LACKS ANY SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT MAY BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE MAIN STRUCTURE, WHICH IS A NATIONAL FOLK STYLE OF A SIMPLER DESIGN.

THE PROPOSED PORCH IS ALSO MODEST IN PROPORTIONS.

IT WILL NOT OVERWHELM THE FACADE OR OBSTRUCT ANY FEATURES OF THE HOUSE ITSELF.

STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT TWO OF THE DETAILS PRESENT IN THE APPLICANT'S DRAWINGS.

FIRST, THE DRAWINGS APPEAR TO SHOW A SOLID WOOD PLANK STYLE HANDRAIL, WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AS A DESIGN CHOICE, AN OPEN WOOD PICKET, AND A TYPICAL SIMPLE SQUARE DESIGN, AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT B OF THE STAFF REPORT IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IN ADDITION, THE DRAWINGS NOTE THE SOLID BOARD SKIRTING AS WELL, AND NOTES THAT THE EXISTING HOUSE HAS LATTICE SKIRTING.

AND AGAIN THE SOLID BOARD SKIRTING IS NOT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

A LATTICE TO MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE WOULD BE MORE ACCEPTABLE PER THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN, MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, EXCEPT THAT A PORCH HANDRAIL SHOULD BE THE TYPICAL SIMPLE SQUARE DESIGN SHOWN IN EXHIBIT B OF THE STAFF REPORT, AND B SKIRTING SHALL BE OF WOOD LATTICE TO MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE PLUS STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH FIVE.

WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE, SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THE VICINITY MAP THERE SHOWING HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE PROPERTY LINES IN THE CORNER.

AND THEN THE BIGGER PHOTO, OF COURSE, SHOWS THE THE SIDE DOOR IN QUESTION AND APPROXIMATELY THE AREA WHERE THE THE PORCH ADDITION WOULD BE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND HERE WE HAVE THE PHOTOS PROVIDED DRAWINGS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OF THE PORCH DESIGN FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT VIEWS AND DIRECTIONS, LOOKING WEST TOWARD THE HOUSE AND THEN LOOKING NORTH AND THEN LOOKING SOUTH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE A PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH ALONG THE STREET SHOWING ONCE AGAIN THE SAME APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED PORCH.

AND WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, DANIEL.

DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M SORRY. I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH UNDERSTANDING HOW LARGE THE PORCH IS.

IS IT THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS THE CONCRETE STEPS OR IS IT LARGER? IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT LARGER.

IT'S GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY FOUR FOOT WIDE IN EIGHT FOOT LONG, AND IT IS GOING TO BE ORIENTED PARALLEL TO THE HOUSE.

SO OVERLAP THE SIDEWALK.

IT WILL GO PARALLEL TO THE SIDEWALK, I BELIEVE.

SO WON'T OVERLAP THE SIDEWALK.

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IT'S GOING PARALLEL TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

IT WON'T TOUCH THE SIDEWALK. I DON'T BELIEVE SO, NANCY.

OKAY. MINE IS REALLY JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

IT'S LISTED AS 805 12TH STREET, BUT THE HOUSE HAS THE NUMBERS ON BALL 1203 AND IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND I JUST WONDERED WHY WE WERE CALLING IT 805 12TH AND WHETHER THAT MIGHT CAUSE CONFUSION.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR CORNER HOUSES THAT HAVE SORT OF DUAL ORIENTATION TO HAVE TWO ADDRESSES, AND THAT IS NOTED IN OUR SYSTEM.

SO IF WE LOOK IT UP UNDER ONE ADDRESS, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY DEFAULT TO THE OTHER ONE.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE DIMENSIONS BACK FROM THE SIDEWALK ON THE DRAWING RIGHT HERE.

THAT IT'S ONE FOOT BACK FROM THE SIDEWALK.

OKAY, LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 20 3-005.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM? IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR US AND SIGN IN ON THAT SHEET.

OKAY. MY NAME IS JOE AND MY WIFE IS JOAN, AND I'LL SOON BE 78.

I AM A TOTALLY DISABLED VIETNAM VETERAN AND THE STEPS THAT ARE THERE, THEY'RE NOT MADE RIGHT WITH OR ANYTHING ABOUT THEM IS NOT CORRECT.

AND TO GO UP THEM AND TO NOT HAVE A LANDING AND HOLD ON, HOLD ON TO A GUARDRAIL, HOLD ON TO YOUR CANE AND OPEN THE DOORS, PRETTY TOUGH. SO I KNOW AT SOME TIME THAT I WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE AN EXCESS OF GETTING UP THERE.

AND THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED HER ON THE PORCH PARALLEL WITH THE HOUSE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE I HAVE ENOUGH LENGTH THAT WHEN I DO BE ABLE TO GET WHERE I CAN'T WALK THEM UP, I WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN AND ASK Y'ALL FOR A HANDICAPPED RAMP.

RIGHT NOW I CAN STILL MANEUVER PRETTY GOOD.

IT'S JUST THAT WHEN I GET UP TO THE STAIR, IF I HAD THAT LANDING, THEN I COULD OPEN THE DOOR AND GO IN.

RIGHT NOW, EVEN WHEN THE GUY WAS SELLING US THE HOUSE, HE ALMOST FELL TWICE BECAUSE THE STEPS, THE CONCRETE STEPS ARE THAT WIDE.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE THAT WIDE.

THEY'RE UNEQUAL.

SO I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ALL DO.

WE LOVE THESE OLD HOMES AND I APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO KEEP THEM ALL THE SAME.

AND I HATE THAT I'D GIVE UP THIS CANE IF I DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE IT.

BUT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING, AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING TO TURN IT AND RUN IT DOWN BY THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S SOMETIME I WON'T BE ABLE TO GET UP STEPS AND I'LL HAVE TO HAVE A RAMP.

AND IF I BUILD IT THIS WAY, ALL I GOT TO DO IS KNOCK OFF THE STAIR STEPS LATER ON, ADD A RAMP TO IT, AND IT JUST GOES RIGHT BENEATH THE WINDOWS TO GET UP TO THE HOUSE.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY REASON I'M GOING TRYING TO GET THIS DONE.

THANK YOU. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. OKAY, GO AHEAD.

DO YOU MIND IF I MAKE A COMMENT? NOT AT ALL. MR. LOWE, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RAILINGS? THE DESIGN? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

BUT IN HERE, I LIST THE MATERIALS.

AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE, I USED THE WORD.

SPINDLES. I MAY NOT HAVE DRAWN THEM CORRECTLY.

AND THAT'S MY FAULT.

I SHOULD HAVE DRAWN THEM FAT AND THICKER.

BUT IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ENTRY, WHICH IS THE SIDEWALK IS RIGHT HERE, SO I CAN ADD A RAMP TO IT AT ANY TIME.

I CAN'T GET TO IT, BUT YOU'LL SEE ON THIS SIDE.

THEY DO HAVE SPINDLES.

IT HAD LITTLE SPINDLES HERE.

I JUST DREW THEM WRONG.

I DID NEVER INDICATED A BOARD PETITION ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT WOULDN'T HAVE LOOKED GOOD AT ALL TO ALL THE PRETTY HOMES THAT ARE AROUND ME.

BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY EXCEPTION THAT I SAW THAT.

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I WOULD RATHER HAVE SPINDLES LIKE THIS PORTION, LIKE THIS PORTION OF THE HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

INSTEAD OF THE LITTLE SQUARE.

THINGS. AND SEE THAT ONE IS REAL SHORT.

THE SIDEWALK IS RIGHT THERE AT THE VERY END.

SO I CAN NEVER TAKE THE STEP OFF AND ADD A RAMP.

SO THAT'S THE MAIN REASON THAT I PICKED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS BECAUSE I THINK YOU JUST DREW THOSE SPINDLES REALLY, REALLY SKINNY.

SO PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GAPS BETWEEN THE BOARDS.

I JUST DREW IT WRONG.

I, YOU KNOW, I MEANT FOR THOSE LITTLE DOTS TO BE SPINDLES.

BUT THAT'S MY FAULT.

I JUST DIDN'T DO IT CORRECTLY.

OKAY. BUT I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING.

OKAY. WE ALSO WANT A PIECE OF LAND UP IN BEYOND 146 BETWEEN LIBERTY AND LIVINGSTON.

AND IT'S QUITE A FEW ACRES AND IT BACKS UP RIGHT NEXT TO ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS.

IT BACKS UP TO MENARD CREEK.

IT'S THE SAME CREEK.

HE WENT UP AND DOWN WHEN HE WAS TRAPPING.

OH, NEAT. YEAH, IT HAPPENS TO BACK UP TO THE BACK, SO.

AND WE DON'T LET ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THAT AREA EITHER.

SO, LIKE I SAID, I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DO.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS NOW? NO. OKAY.

SO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 23LC-005 AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION.

ANYBODY? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE 23LC-005 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.

DO WE NEED TO MODIFY TO ALLOW THE SPINDLES TO? YES. WE WOULD NEED TO MODIFY IT, YES.

YEAH. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING SIMPLE SQUARE BALUSTERS, WHICH IS A STANDARD CONDITION THAT WE MAKE FOR NEW RAILINGS.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW MR. LOWE TO MATCH WHAT HE HAS ALREADY, YOU WOULD JUST STRIKE THAT CONDITION ONE A.

OKAY. I WOULD AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE STRIKING CONDITION ONE.

ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? I AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY, THEN WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.

ALL THOSE THAT APPROVE ARE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT'S EVERYBODY. THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.

CASE IS A LICENSE TO USE 23LC-006 ADJACENT TO 805 12TH STREET.

ALL RIGHTY. AND OF COURSE, THIS IS THE COMPANION CASE THAT WE MENTIONED.

AND AS THE APPLICANT KIND OF MENTIONED, THE PROPOSED STAIRCASE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND FOR DESIGN PURPOSES NOW GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A LICENSE TO LICENSE TO USE A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH LANDMARK COMMISSION WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO.

SO YOU CHOOSE.

THERE ARE 25 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT ON THIS REQUEST AND NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.

SO AGAIN, THE LIGHT WOULD BE FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED STAIRCASE AND PORCH.

IT WILL BE MORE OR LESS, WELL, NOT MORE OR LESS PARALLEL TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

FOUR FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT, THERE WOULD BE A SLIGHT OFFSET FROM THE EXISTING SIDEWALK.

NOTE THAT THERE WERE NO COMMENTS OR CONCERNS RECEIVED FROM STATE DEPARTMENTS OR OUTSIDE UTILITIES.

FOR THOSE APPLICANTS FOR THE NEXT CASE THEY WERE.

AND SO I THINK WE HAVE THE DETAILS DOWN.

SO WHILE THE APPLICANTS ARE HOPEFULLY COMING BACK, WE WILL SEE ATTACHMENT A FOR THE EXTENSIVE PLACEMENT OF THE PROSE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND ONCE AGAIN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE CASE 23LC-006 FOR THE LICENSE TO USE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PORCH BE APPROVED WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE AND TWO AND STANDARD CONDITIONS THREE THROUGH EIGHT.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS.

THIS SHOULD LOOK VERY FAMILIAR.

PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PHOTOS LIKE COPY AND PASTED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE WE HAVE KIND OF A SITE PLAN SHOWING THAT FRONT HOUSE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF THE OUTLINED AREAS APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE STAIRCASE WOULD BE.

IT'S NOT TO SCALE. IT'S VERY REPRESENTATIVE.

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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND ONCE AGAIN, LOOKING SOUTH WHERE THE LTU ENCROACHMENT WOULD BE LOOKING NORTH OR THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN, DANIEL.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 23LC-005 WITH THE APPLICANT.

LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ONE.

NO. OKAY.

THAT'S. THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 23LC-005 AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION.

ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? NO. GO AHEAD, JULIE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 23LC-006.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

MILTON. MILTON.

SECONDS. OKAY, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.

EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THAT MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT CASE IS 23LC-007, ADJACENT TO 2302 MECHANIC AVENUE C.

ALRIGHTY. ONCE AGAIN, A VERY SIMILAR REQUEST TO THE PREVIOUS.

IN THIS CASE, THOUGH, IT'S FOR A CONSTRUCTION, FENCING AND SCAFFOLDING.

THIS IS AT 2302 MECHANIC.

I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A COA FOR A ROOFTOP CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS APPROVED SOME TIME AGO.

THIS IS BELIEVED TO BE AN ASSOCIATION WITH THAT APPROVAL.

THERE WERE 27 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, FIVE RETURNED ALL FIVE OF THOSE IN FAVOR.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A LICENSE TO USE A CITY RIGHT OF WAY TO RETAIN CONSTRUCTION, FENCING AND SCAFFOLDING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ASSOCIATED WITH ONGOING RENOVATIONS. A TEMPORARY LICENSE TO USE HAS SINCE SINCE I'M SORRY, EXPIRED.

AND NOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS IS NEEDED TO CONTINUE FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, AS THIS IS IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, LANDMARK COMMISSION MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE L2.

SO THE CONSTRUCTION ITEMS ARE INSTALLED ALONG AVENUE C OR MECHANIC STREET, ROUGHLY PARALLEL TO THE PROPERTY'S SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, EXTENDING FROM AN EXISTING ENTRY DOOR AT THE CORNER WESTWARD APPROXIMATELY 70FT.

THE FENCING ENCROACHES APPROXIMATELY 22 FOOT INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY, BLOCKING BOTH THE SIDEWALK AND THE THREE PARALLEL PARKING SPACES ADJACENT.

IT'S BASED ON THE SCOPE OF WORK WHICH CONSISTS OF THE MENTIONED CONSTRUCTION.

AND FENCING AND THERE IS NO AVAILABLE SPACE ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF, OF COURSE.

AND SO THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE CONSTRUCTION.

FENCING AND SCAFFOLDING REMAIN.

TOWARD THE END OF THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED, WHICH THEY ESTIMATE TO BE JUNE 17TH, 2023.

AND ONCE AGAIN, AS THIS IS IN THE STRAFFORD COUNTY HISTORIC DISTRICT LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEY WILL HEAR THE REQUEST AND THE PREVIOUS REQUEST AT THEIR MARCH 21ST MEETING.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS LICENSE TO USE SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH FIVE AND STANDARD CONDITIONS SIX THROUGH 11.

AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS.

SO HERE WE HAVE THE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION, FENCING AND SCAFFOLDING IN PLACE, LOOKING NORTH AT THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING AND THE VICINITY MAP SHOWING ITS LOCATION ON THE CORNER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND HERE WE HAVE A KIND OF A ENLARGED DRAWING SHOWING THE APPROXIMATE EXTENTS OF THE REQUEST.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT GOES FROM APPROXIMATELY THE CORNER WHERE THE LITTLE ENTRY DOOR AND AWNING IS TO PRETTY MUCH THE END OF THE THE LOT THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND HERE WE HAVE A PHOTO LOOKING WEST ALONG MECHANIC SHOWING THE EXTENTS OF THE L2, THE L2 ITEMS, THE FENCING AND SCAFFOLDING, THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 23LC-007.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT? NO. OKAY, THEN WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 23LC-007 AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION.

ANYBODY. NO, THANK YOU.

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SORRY. MILTON.

YEAH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

CASE 23LC-007 ACCORDING TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU. A SECOND.

THANK YOU, JANE. SECONDS.

ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN TAKE A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THAT PASSES.

THANK YOU.

NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. STAFF HAS A SUBJECT THEY'D LIKE TO TALK ON.

WE DO.

AND IT'S JUST ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST PROCEDURES.

THERE IS A FORM THAT SHOULD BE FILLED OUT ANY TIME THAT YOU ARE DECLARING A CONFLICT AND IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

SO I'VE PULLED THE WEBSITE UP HERE OR THE CITY'S WEBSITE IS GALVESTON.GOV.

SO IF YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONFLICT, THEN YOU'LL GO HERE TO GOVERNMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S PAGE.

SO GOVERNMENT AND THEN CITY SECRETARY.

AND THEN HERE AT THE BOTTOM IS CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

YOU CLICK THERE.

PULLS UP THIS PAGE.

WHICH HAS INFORMATION ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE FORM FOR CITY OFFICIALS.

AFFIDAVIT OF ABSTENTION FROM VOTING.

SO YOU WOULD CLICK ON THAT, DOWNLOAD IT, PRINT IT OUT, FILL IT OUT.

IT WILL ASK FOR YOUR BARELY SEE THAT.

IT'S JUST YOUR NAME.

THE BUSINESS ENTITY OR PROPERTY IN WHICH THEY YOU HAVE THE CONFLICT ON THE REASONS FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THE TECHNICAL REASONS FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST ARE PRETTY STRICT AND THEY'RE ALL LISTED HERE.

AND IT HAS TO DO WITH FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT TYPICALLY 10% OF YOUR INCOME COMES FROM THE CASE BEING HEARD.

IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THAT'S EVER GOING TO APPLY.

WHAT'S GOING TO APPLY MOST OF THE TIME, IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT IS DOWN HERE THAT YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL YOU DON'T HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST, BUT AN APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.

IT'S YOUR NEIGHBOR, IT'S YOUR BEST FRIEND, IT'S YOUR COUSIN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU FILL THAT OUT AND THEN SIGN IT AND NOTARIZE IT.

KARINA WILL BECOME A NOTARY SOON.

SO ONCE SHE DOES, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.

AND THEN YOU CAN JUST BRING THE FORM TO THE MEETING AND SHE CAN NOTARIZE IT.

UNTIL THEN, THE CITY SECRETARY IS A NOTARY, SO YOU CAN JUST COME A LITTLE BIT EARLY.

THEIR OFFICE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS ROOM.

YOU JUST COME IN AND SAY YOUR LANDMARK COMMISSIONER AND YOU NEED SOMETHING NOTARIZED.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THIS PROCEDURE IN THIS FORM.

COULD I CLARIFY OR ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE NEIGHBOR SITUATION? I KNOW EVERYBODY JUST ABOUT IN SILK STOCKING, BUT I'M NOT CLOSE FRIENDS WITH ALL OF THEM.

BUT I KNOW THEM. BUT I HAVE TO ABSTAIN.

NO, I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS UP TO YOU IF YOU FEEL ANY DISCOMFORT ABOUT VOTING ON SOMETHING WITH SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S BEST TO DECLARE THE CONFLICT.

BUT IF IT'S SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, SOCIALLY OR SOMEBODY YOU KNOW IN PASSING, I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T THINK THINK TWICE ABOUT IT.

I SUGGEST THAT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IT, ASK DONNA.

OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING ON APRIL 3RD? YES. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ADD AN ITEM TO DISCUSS.

POTENTIALLY. INCREASING COMMUNICATION REGARDING PROPERTIES THAT.

ASK FOR.

VARIANCES OR ADJUSTMENTS ARE.

ALL RIGHT. STAFF HAS THAT NOTED? AWESOME. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? NO. OKAY, THEN.

THE TIME IS NOW.

4:25. DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

HEY, YOU DID GREAT.

WE KNEW YOU WOULD.

HEY, DID YOU SEE MY NOTES? OH, WOW.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.