ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.
[Landmark Commission on February 6, 2023.]
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TODAY IS MONDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2023, AND THE TIME IS 4:02.ATTENDANCE. GO AHEAD AND GO INTO ATTENDANCE.
DO YOU WANT ME TO DO ROLL CALL? YES. COMMISSIONER ALBERSTADT.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BAKER. PRESENT.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CLICK. PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER FLINT-BUDDE. PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. PRESENT.
CHAIRPERSON PATTERSON. PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER STETZEL-THOMPSON.
PRESENT. WE KNOW COMMISSIONER SWANSON IS ABSENT.
THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF OUR CASES? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? DO YOU SEE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE? NOBODY. THE MINUTES ARE PROVED AS PRESENTED.
ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, CATHERINE? NO PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED.
OKAY. BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR NEW BUSINESS WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE RECENTLY STEPPED OFF.
ONE OF THEM WAS MY VICE CHAIR, STEPHANIE LANG.
I FOUND HER INSTRUMENTAL AND HER POSITION AS VICE CHAIR AND JUST INCREDIBLE WEALTH OF INFORMATION.
SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY TENACIOUS ABOUT PRESERVATION, AND I KNOW IT HURT HER A LOT TO HAVE TO STEP DOWN BECAUSE OF WORK CONFLICTS, BECAUSE I THINK SHE REALLY ENJOYED WHAT SHE DID.
AND SHE WAS ALSO VERY, VERY ACTIVE IN HER ROLE AS VICE CHAIR.
THE OTHER PERSON I'M GOING TO SEE, REALLY SAD TO SEE GO IS TONER KERSTING, BECAUSE TONER BROUGHT A WEALTH OF INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSION AND HIS PROFESSIONAL ROLE THAT HE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION.
AND HE WAS A LOT OF FUN TO WORK WITH.
AND I'M VERY SAD TO SEE HIM GO.
THIS IS A RECOGNITION OF YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMISSION.
AND I'M GOING TO BE THE COMMISSIONS BIGGEST FAN OUT THERE IN THE WILD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] THANKS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THEN I'LL JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO INTRODUCE A NEW FACE HERE AT THE TABLE.
SHE'S THE NEW PLANNING TECH, JOINED US JUST ABOUT A WEEK AGO.
SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HER.
SO YOU'LL START TO GET TO KNOW HER AND YOU'LL START SEEING EMAILS FROM KARINA.
AND THEN I THINK COUNCILMAN COLLINS HAS SOME INTRODUCTIONS.
THANK YOU. AT OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING, COUNCIL TOOK THE ACTION TO MOVE MS. FLINT-BUDDE AND MS. BAKER UP AS REGULAR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, AND WE APPOINTED TWO NEW ALTERNATES IN THEIR PLACE, CHRISTIAN BOURGEOIS, WHO'S SITTING HERE WITH US TODAY, AND TERRY JOHNSON, WHO'S AT THE TABLE RIGHT OVER THERE.
I WANT TO WELCOME WELCOME YOU BOTH TO THE COMMISSION.
OK. MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
OUR FIRST CASE IS CASE 22LC-055.
IT'S A REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATENESS TO RAISE THE HOUSE AND MODIFICATIONS.
THE PUBLIC NOTICES SENT WERE THREE SENT ZERO RETURNED.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IN ORDER TO ELEVATE THE STRUCTURE.
THE STRUCTURE IS FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION.
IT'S CURRENTLY AT 10.8 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RAISE THE HOUSE AN ADDITIONAL 2.5 FEET ABOVE THE REQUIRED ELEVATION.
THE PROPOSED SKIRTING IS BOARD AND BATTEN WITH EXPOSED STUCCOED PIERS.
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PARALLEL TO THE REAR PORCH.PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
CONFORMANCE STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS REQUEST BE APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ALL NEW RAILINGS SHALL MATCH THE EXISTING AND DESIGN AND MATERIALS.
ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX ARE STANDARD.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM 11TH STREET.
AND THEN HERE IS THE ELEVATION OF THE ELEVATION.
SO THIS IS THE HOUSE RAISED AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED SKIRTING MATERIALS BOARD AND BATTEN.
AND THEN HERE'S A SIDE ELEVATION.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
THANKS, CATHERINE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS CASE REGARDING RAISING THE PROPERTY? NO. OKAY.
GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE PROPERTY OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO STEP UP, SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME.
I THINK YOU WERE A COMMISSIONER, WEREN'T YOU? WELL, I WAS ON ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
I THINK YOU ALSO HAVE A FORMER MAYOR BACK THERE TOO YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
BUT AS REGISTERED PROPERTY OWNER, I AM REBECCA HUGHES.
AND I'M DELIGHTED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL TODAY DUE TO VARIOUS REASONS.
JAMI DURHAM AT THE HISTORIC FOUNDATION DID THE RESEARCH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT SOMEDAY I'M GOING TO DO AND LIKE, NO WE'RE DOING THIS, WE'RE DOING THIS.
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PERSONAL HISTORY FOR THE HOUSE.
JOE AND I FIRST LAID OUR EYES ON IT IN JANUARY OF 1995.
I TOLD THE REALTOR, IF WE BUY ANY HOUSE IN GALVESTON, IT'LL BE THIS HOUSE.
AND JOE WAS BEHIND ME SAYING TO OUR FRIENDS THAT WHO WERE WITH US, WHERE WILL THEY EVER FIND ANYBODY STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY THIS HOUSE? WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT US.
AND AFTER ABOUT 15 MONTHS, WE WERE FINALLY MOVING IN, HAVING SPENT MORE TIME, MORE MONEY AND MORE AGGRAVATION THAN WE EVER DREAMED OF.
BUT WE ABSOLUTELY LOVED OUR HOUSE, LOVED BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY OF GALVESTON.
IKE. IKE PUT OVER TWO FEET OF WATER THROUGH THE GROUND FLOOR OF OUR HOUSE AND UPENDED OUR LIVES.
THERE WERE MOMENTS THAT I FELT COMPLETE DESPAIR, AND I KNOW EVERYONE WHO HAD THEIR HOUSE FLOODED IN IKE SHARED THOSE FEELINGS AT SOME POINT. AND I WOULD TRY TO BRACE MYSELF AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THE GULF OF MEXICO HAS COME THROUGH THIS HOUSE.
BUT I AM HOPING WITH THE LIFT THAT WE'RE PLANNING, THAT I CAN BE THE LAST TIME THAT THE GULF OF MEXICO GOES THROUGH THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE OF 1028 WINNIE AND THAT WE WILL HAVE PROVIDED AN UNDERNEATH THAT WE'D RATHER THE GULF OF MEXICO NOT COME AND GO UNDER IT.
BUT THAT IF IT DOES, IT DOESN'T JEOPARDIZE OUR WONDERFUL HISTORIC HOME.
SO I HOPE YOU ALL WILL APPROVE OUR PROJECT TODAY.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
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I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE THE PRINT IS SO SMALL.ON THE SKIRTING, THERE'S FLOW THROUGH VENTS.
YES. AND ONE WAY FLOW THROUGH VENTS? IT WILL BE WHATEVER IS REQUIRED AND WORKS THE BEST FOR PURPOSE.
I FIGURED IT WAS, BUT MY OLD EYES IT'S HARD TO SEE.
WELL, AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK THEY'RE SHOWN IN THE ELEVATION DRAWINGS, BUT THEY'RE SHOWN ON THE FLOOR PLAN THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY THEY PUT THEM AND WHATEVER IS REQUIRED.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. HUGHES? NO.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CASE? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS CASE.
I FEEL QUITE STRONGLY THAT THERE CAN'T BE ANY SINGLE ACT MORE IN FAVOR AND PROMOTING HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAN TO GET A HOUSE OUT OF HARM'S WAY.
AND I THINK THIS HOUSE YOU SAID WAS IN 1886.
66. 66 SO IT'S VERY OLD PROPERTY.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. SHARON SECONDED IT.
MAYOR. JAWORSKI MS. HUGHES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THIS.
YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF PRESERVING AND MAINTAINING THIS HOME.
AND I CAN'T AGREE MORE WITH CONNIE THAT ONE OF THE PLACES THAT WE'VE BEEN WILLING TO BEND THE RULE, THE NATIONAL RULES A LITTLE BIT, WAS TO GET HOUSES RAISED, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T IF WE'RE NOT A LITTLE MORE LIBERAL ABOUT HOW MUCH WE RAISE THEM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE IN 40 YEARS TO WORRY ABOUT.
SO THIS IS I THINK, A GREAT MOVE ON THEIR PART.
CASE IS APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO CASE 22LC-056 1808 AVENUE K.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE.
ALL RIGHTY. SO IN THIS CASE, THERE WERE FOUR PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, ONE RETURN THAT ONE WAS OPPOSED.
SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO RAISE A LOWER WINDOW SASH FOR INTERIOR KITCHEN CABINETRY.
SO TO GET IT HIGH ENOUGH TO BE ABOVE THE CABINETRY IN THE BACKSPLASH, THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND SHUTTERS WOULD BE RETAINED BUT REBUILT ACCORDINGLY TO FIT THESE NOW SOMEWHAT SMALLER OPENINGS.
NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THIS REQUEST DOES NOT STRICTLY CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND OF COURSE MORE FLEXIBILITY IS POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.
AS THEY ARE BOTH LESS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
DO TO THE DETERMINATION REQUEST DOES NOT STRICTLY CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS STAFF RECOMMENDS NOW THE REQUEST, HOWEVER, SHOULD THE LANDMARK COMMISSION DETERMINE THE REQUEST DOES CONFORM, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS MAY BE APPROPRIATE.
EXISTING WINDOWS SHALL BE RETAINED AND REBUILT TO FIT THE MODIFIED OPENINGS.
SAME WITH THE EXISTING LOUVERED SHUTTERS PLUS STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH FIVE.
[INAUDIBLE] THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SEEN FROM THE STREET IN A LITTLE VICINITY MAP.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT'S SKETCHES SHOWING THE CURRENT.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND HERE WE HAVE THE REAR OF THE AREA IN QUESTION.
AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE THAT LOWER WINDOW SASH UP A BIT.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND HERE WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH, TO THE WEST.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
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THANKS, DANIEL. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO? OKAY I'M GOING TO ASK IF THE PROPERTY OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ? IF YOU COULD SIGN IN, PLEASE, AND THEN STATE YOUR NAME.I'LL PUT THE REST IN. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS LOOKING AT THIS AND GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY.
PART OF REDOING THIS, IT'S GETTING ALL NEW ELECTRICAL.
IT'S REALLY NEVER HAD MODERN ELECTRIC.
IT'S NEVER HAD HEATING IN AC MODERN OR ANYTHING ELSE.
I MEAN, IT WAS JUST THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT WOULD RESEMBLE A HOUSE THAT WAS LIVABLE WHEN WE PURCHASED IT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THESE WINDOWS TO BE RAISED SO IT CAN HAVE A KITCHEN THAT CAN BE USED.
THERE'S VIRTUALLY WINDOWS IN EVERY SINGLE ROOM OF THIS HOUSE, AND THERE'S NOWHERE THAT YOU CAN PUT A CABINET OR ANYTHING THAT'S SPACED APART FURTHER THAN SIX FEET.
SO THAT IS WHY WE'RE ASKING TO RAISE THOSE TWO WINDOWS AND WE'VE ACTUALLY MODIFIED OUR KITCHEN DESIGN TO KEEP THE ONE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AT THE STANDARD HEIGHT THAT IT IS NOW.
WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A KITCHEN DESIGN THAT WOULD LEAVE THAT ONE ALONE.
IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD BE MODIFIED, WOULD BE THE ONE ON THE REAR OF THE HOME.
WE DO. WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL SCREEN DOOR ON THE FRONT.
IT'S RARE. AND THE HOUSE IS VIRTUALLY IT'S AMAZING AT IT'S AN 1886 HOME AND IT'S AMAZING HOW IT'S REALLY THE WAY THAT IT IS.
BUT REALLY EVERYTHING IS JUST THE WAY THAT IT WAS.
AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY GOT US INTERESTED IN THIS.
I WILL GIVE YOU THAT. IT IS A CHALLENGE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, I'D LIKE TO ASK.
I SEE YOU'VE GOT A TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION MARKER ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
YES. YES. IS IT A REGISTERED TEXAS HISTORICAL LANDMARK? I BELIEVE SO. WE BELIEVE IT IS.
SO ANY STRUCTURAL CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE AS WELL.
OKAY. IS THAT? CATHERINE? YEAH. ARE THLS REGISTERED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK, THEY HAVE A REVIEW THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION AND IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE REVIEW FROM OURS. BUT I CAN SEND YOU A LINK TO THOSE REVIEWERS.
OKAY. IS IT RECOGNIZED OR IS IT A LANDMARK BY THE STATE? IT'S. A MEDALLION ON THE FRONT.
I SEE THAT. THE MEDALLION ON THE FRONT IS THE OWNERSHIP BACKGROUND MORE OF WHO OWNED IT? THE ORIGINAL OWNER.
OKAY. [INAUDIBLE] TEXAS STAR SO I'M MORE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF.
YEAH. TYPICALLY THAT THIS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS STUFF RIGHT HERE.
THAT PLAQUE GENERALLY MEANS THAT IT'S A REGISTERED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK.
BUT WE ALSO TRACK THAT IN OUR SYSTEM.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. OKAY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS HOUSE BROUGHT BACK AGAIN.
I DON'T ENVY YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU DO WITH IT.
AS I DROVE BY, I SAW Y'ALL ALREADY REPLACING ROTTEN WOOD AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
YOU GET IT PAINTED. CAN YOU BOTH STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, THOUGH, MICHAEL AND ROBERTA GREAR? YOU BETCHA. THANKS, DONNA.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC CASE?
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NO.DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST WITH THE MODIFICATION THAT IT IS ONLY THE REAR WINDOW.
OKAY. SO LINE ITEM, NOT THE SIDE, JUST THE REAR.
AND IS THERE LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT.
IS IS THAT B? DANIEL SAYS B1 LET'S LOOK AT IT.
OK. SO IT LOOKS LIKE 1A AND B WOULD BE MODIFIED SLIGHTLY.
DO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS FOR THE SIDE AND THE BACK VERSUS LOCATION A, LOCATION B, OR DO WE JUST WANT HER TO SPECIFY THAT IT IS ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE? I WOULD ADD A NEW CONDITION.
CONDITION 1C AND SPECIFY THAT IT'S FOR THE REAR ONLY.
AND FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS CASE 22LC- OKAY. AND COULD I ASK YOU TO RESTATE YOUR MOTION REAL QUICK? SURE. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.
CASE 22LC-056 WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATION AND ADDING C THAT IT IS ONLY THE REAR WINDOW THAT WILL BE REPLACED.
A SPECIFIC CONDITION 1C REAR WINDOW.
SPECIFIC CONDITION ONES. OTHERWISE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY. LET'S CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT.
SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR A AND B, BUT IT'S ONLY GOING TO APPLY TO C? CORRECT. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE LOCATIONS BROKEN OUT BY AREA.
SO WE'RE JUST SAYING 1C ON THE SPECIFICATION FOR THE BACK WINDOW ONLY.
ONLY TO THE REAR. AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT A LITTLE BIT.
I'M PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR REGISTERED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARKS RETAINING THEIR INTEGRITY MORE SO THAN HOUSES THAT HAVEN'T OBTAINED THAT DESIGNATION.
THIS HOME IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED AND AS CLOSE TO ORIGINAL CONDITION AS POSSIBLE.
AND WE ALL DEAL WITH THE KITCHEN SITUATION AND THERE ARE WORKAROUNDS.
AND I FEEL PRETTY PASSIONATE THAT WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE THE HISTORIC WINDOWS ON THIS HOME.
IF WE HAVE HAD INSTANCES BECAUSE THAT'S A SUB PRIME LOCATION.
SO OFTENTIMES SOMEONE WOULD COME IN AND ASK FOR MODIFICATIONS LIKE AN ADDITION.
IS THERE A CIRCUMSTANCE OF WHAT YOU WOULD ALLOW IT IF, FOR INSTANCE, THE WINDOW WAS REMOVED AND SAVED? TO ME BEING A REGISTERED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK, IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE.
SURE. NO. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE.
WELL, IF WE ALL AGREE, THERE'D BE NO REASON TO HAVE A COMMISSION.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE VALID ONES.
ANYBODY ELSE? BUT COULD THEY DO LIKE SHE SAID, LEAVE THE EXTERIOR OUTSIDE WINDOW THE WAY IT IS AND JUST BOARD OVER INSIDE. I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CITY FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION MODIFICATION.
TO JUST SHEETROCK OVER A WINDOW.
YES. INSIDE? CORRECT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY WANT THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WALLED.
HOW YOU [INAUDIBLE]. WELL, THE CITY CAN APPROVE THINGS.
YEAH. SO AS LONG AS THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE EXTERIOR, THEN THAT WOULD JUST BE A BUILDING PERMIT.
WE WOULDN'T DO A HISTORIC REVIEW IF THERE WAS NO CHANGE.
BUT IN FACT, THERE WOULD BE NO NATURAL SUNLIGHT COMING THROUGH, CORRECT?
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WELL, I THINK THAT SHARON'S QUESTION WAS MORE ABOUT IF THEY KEPT THE WINDOW AND JUST PUT SHEETROCK INSIDE.RIGHT. BUT THEY WOULD LOSE ALL SUNLIGHT ON THAT.
RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MODIFY THE SHUTTERS.
RIGHT? WE CAN'T HAVE AN UPPER LOWER.
IT HAS TO STAY AS ONE SHUTTER.
SO IF YOU WERE TO COVER THAT, THAT WOULD WORK.
BUT THEY WOULD LOSE ALL THEIR NATURAL SUNLIGHT BECAUSE THE SHUTTER WOULD BE PERMANENTLY CLOSED.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, ALSO WE'RE SPECULATING.
SO. RIGHT. WHAT THE REQUEST IS TO SHORTEN THE WINDOW.
OKAY, THANK YOU. I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, EXPLORING.
OKAY. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY, LET'S TAKE IT FOR A VOTE, PLEASE.
OKAY. DID YOU ABSTAIN OR DID YOU VOTE? NO. VOTE? NOT IN FAVOR.
NOT IN FAVOR. SO TWO NOT IN FAVOR.
THE MOTION PASSES TO ALLOW YOU TO MODIFY THE WINDOW ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
TEXAS RIGHT. BUT AS FAR AS OUR BUSINESS IS CONCERNED.
YEAH. SO THEY'RE TOTALLY SEPARATE.
SO WE CAN'T YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SAY WE CAN GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO DO IT.
BUT THAT'S THE EXTENT OF OUR DUTY FOR THE RTHL.
WE'RE GOING TO CASE 22LC-001 1702 AVENUE K.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
ALL RIGHTY. SO IN THIS REQUEST THERE WERE FIVE PUBLIC NOTICES SENT AND NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THEM AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES HERE.
NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE APPLICABLE.
SO STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THEIR REMOVABLE CANVAS OR SIMILAR SHADE ARE RELATIVELY MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE MASSING OF THE HOUSE ITSELF, AND DO NOT OBSCURE ANY ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
IT APPEARS TO BE A NON HISTORIC ADDITION.
STAFF HAS SOME CONCERNS WITH THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED FRONT HANDRAIL.
IT'S VERY TYPICAL WITH THESE SORTS OF REQUESTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
THE PROPOSED SHADE STRUCTURE SHALL BE MADE OF WOOD, AS OPPOSED TO THE GALVANIZED PIPES FIRST PROPOSED, AND THE PROPOSED FRONT HANDRAIL SHOULD BE OF WOOD AN DESIGN, AS SHOWN IN ATTACHMENT VIA THE STAFF REPORT AND OMITTING ANY DECORATIVE ELEMENTS PLUS STANDARD CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH FIVE.
SO WE HAVE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AS IT STANDS NOW AND A VICINITY MAP AS USUAL.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE A PHOTO PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT WHICH STAFF HAS HIGHLIGHTED TO KIND OF SHOW THE DECK IN QUESTION WHERE THE SHADE STRUCTURE WOULD ACTUALLY BE KIND OF ON THE REAR OF THE HOUSE.
AND ALSO IS A PHOTO PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING WHAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE.
SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A HARD ROOF COVER.
IT'S MORE OF THE STRUCTURE TO SUPPORT A CANVAS CLOTH, REMOVABLE FABRIC TYPE SHADE STRUCTURE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN HERE WE HAVE SOME PROPOSED DRAWINGS WHERE THE APPLICANT IS SUPERIMPOSED THEIR VISION FOR THE FRONT PORCH RAILS OVER THE EXISTING HOUSE PHOTOS.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE HIGHLIGHTED BY THE OVALS THERE.
AND HERE WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH, TO THE WEST.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFFS REPORT.
THANK YOU, DANIEL. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
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I HAVE A QUESTION.SO STAFF WOULD REACH OUT, TALKED TO THE APPLICANT, AND THE APPLICANT GOT WITH THEIR ENGINEER, AND THEY SEEMED TO BELIEVE THAT THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, SUPPORTING STRUCTURE, COULD BE MADE OF WOOD AS OPPOSED TO PIPE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.
ARE THEY PRESENT? WOULD YOU PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN, PLEASE.
I'M BARRY FAIRBANKS AND MY WIFE IS NOT HERE, BUT SHE'S BELINDA FAIRBANKS.
WE'VE OWNED THE HOUSE FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW.
AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY TWO INDEPENDENT REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE TO MAKE THE BASICALLY TO SOLVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE JUST LIVING THERE.
THE HANDRAIL THE REQUEST ACTUALLY WAS FOR CONCRETE COLUMNS EIGHT INCHES TO TRY TO MATCH ARCHITECTURALLY THE CEMENT, 11 TO 12 INCH COLUMNS THAT WERE THERE AS FAR AS THE GENERAL TEXTURE AND LOOK OF IT.
AND THEN THE RAILING THAT WE HAD PROPOSED WAS ALUMINUM PAINTED WHITE, WHICH WOULD LOOK LIKE IRON.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME COMING BEFORE THIS GROUP.
BUT THE LOOKING AROUND THE HOUSES, YOU SEE THE ONES IMMEDIATELY ON EACH DIRECTION.
BUT LOOKING ON THE HOUSES ON K STREET BETWEEN 17TH AND 18TH I NOTED THAT THERE WAS MOST OF THEM ARE WOOD RAILINGS.
ONE IS BRICK, ONE IS IRON PAINTED AND THEN ONE IS A MIXTURE OF BRICK AND IRON.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE STREET THAT YOU DON'T SEE.
SO I LEAVE IT TO YOUR JUDGMENT ON THAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD LOOK BEST SORT OF WITH A CLEAN LOOK TO GO WITH THE HOUSE, WHICH I THINK THE ALUMINUM WOULD GIVE.
THE SECOND PROPOSAL WAS FOR THE REAR DECK COVER AND WE CAN GO I TALKED WITH DANIEL AND WE CAN GO WITH WOOD, WE CAN GO WITH CLOTH.
WHAT I HAD PROPOSED WAS JUST A COMMERCIAL DECK, JUST, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WAS LESS LABOR OUR DECK COVER, THAT IS, IT'S ACTUALLY A COMMERCIAL CANOPY.
AND SO IT WOULD BE A VINYL OR VERY THICK PLASTIC GUARANTEED 15 YEARS TYPE OF COVER.
BUT WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH CANVAS AND WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH THE WOOD STRUCTURE.
I'LL JUST HAVE TO GO BACK BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE GO BEFORE THE BUILDING BOARD OR COMMISSION. THAT'S ABOUT WITHOUT WASTING OF YOUR TIME.
THAT'S, ABOUT ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT OUR PROPOSAL.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL YOU BRING TO US AN HISTORIC PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.
I KNOW WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND WORK WITH US.
DO YOU HAVE ANY HISTORICAL PHOTOGRAPHS THAT MIGHT SHOW WHAT THE RAILING USED TO BE? NO, WE DID GO TO THE COMMISSION AND ASKED TO SEE WHAT WE COULD FIND.
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WE KNOW THAT THE HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1922.WE KNOW THAT IT WAS VICTORIAN BECAUSE IT STILL IS INSIDE MOST OF IT.
THERE WAS A SOMETIME WE THINK IT WAS IN THE 1960.
AND IT LOOKED LIKE IN 1960 IT CHANGED WHERE THEY ADDED THIS CEMENT PORCH STRUCTURE, WHICH IS QUITE THE COLOSSUS, IF YOU LOOK AT HOW IT WAS BUILT.
YES. AND ALSO IN THE REAR, WHAT WAS ADDED IN THE REAR WAS A 500 SQUARE FOOT, ONE ABOVE THE OTHER TO MAKE IT A MULTI LEVEL HOUSE.
AND IT WAS THE ROOF OF IT WAS PUT INSIDE.
YEAH. YOU SEE THE GAP BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW.
I WONDERED ABOUT THAT. AND IT, IT'S BASICALLY LOOKS LIKE A 1960 ISH TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, WOODEN BEAMS, ARCHED ROOF, ALL OF THAT.
AND SO THAT ON THE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE DESIGN FOR THE COVERING THAT WE WANTED BECAUSE IT'S VERY HOT OUT THERE IN THE MORNING WE DECIDED TO TRY AND MATCH THAT AND THAT THE COVERING PROPOSED AND WE WOULD DO THAT IF WE DID IT WITH WOOD AS WELL TRY TO MATCH IT TO WHERE THE COVERING GOES UNDER THE EDGE OF THE ROOF JUST AS THE NEW ADDITION GOES UNDER THE EDGE OF THE OLD ROOF AND BRING IT OUT.
AND BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT GOES DOWN THAT YOU RUN INTO THE THING WOULD ACTUALLY I HAD A DRAWING OF THAT ALSO IN THE PROPOSAL OF WHAT IT JUST CUT AND PASTE WOULD LOOK LIKE BUT I THINK FAIRLY CLOSE BUT IT WOULDN'T COME ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE STREET.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO NOTE ALSO, BECAUSE IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME BEFORE LANDMARK.
A LOT OF TIMES WE SEE THESE VERY ORNATE IRON RAILINGS THAT DON'T BELONG ON THE HOUSE.
IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE DRIVING REASONS THAT WE BECAME NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS TO SAVE OUR HISTORY HERE IN GALVESTON, WHICH IS SO UNIQUE AND SO RICH, AND THAT WE WERE LITERALLY LOSING YEAR BY YEAR BECAUSE THAT PORCHES WERE ENCLOSED AND ALL KINDS OF MODIFICATIONS.
WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THE MOST ORNATE NICHOLAS CLAYTON HOUSES YOU WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE BECAUSE THEY WERE COMPLETELY ENCLOSED, COMPLETELY MODIFIED. SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE SEE THINGS LIKE THAT OUT AND ABOUT, THEY'RE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE EITHER DONE WITHOUT APPROVAL, RIGHT? WE CATCH THOSE, UNFORTUNATELY, OR THEY WERE DONE PRIOR TO IT BECOMING A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
BUT WHEN IT BECOMES A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, ALL THOSE GUIDELINES ARE THERE TO HELP FACILITATE AND PROTECT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS GOING FORWARD, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT MAKES THEM HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER IS BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE HISTORY IS STILL THERE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO MY COMMISSIONERS AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS CASE.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 23 LC-001 WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE SPECIFIC CONDITION OF THE SHADE STRUCTURE BEING MADE OUT OF WOOD AND THE HANDRAIL BEING MADE OUT OF WOOD.
OKAY. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
OKAY THE SECOND OK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? NO OK LET'S MOVE FOR A VOTE.
IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GOOD LUCK. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW YOUR PROPERTY PROGRESSES.
SO SWEET LITTLE HOUSE YOU GOT THERE.
ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I WOULD LIKE ALL OF OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO WISH SHARON GOOD LUCK.
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THIS WEEK SHE'S HAVING MAJOR SURGERY.THIS IS A SURGERY WE'VE HEARD ABOUT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.
THIS IS THE BIG ONE THAT COMES UP ON TUESDAY.
THANK YOU. WE WISH YOU THE BEST.
YEAH. BEING ON A LIQUID DIET FOR 3 MONTHS.
[LAUGHTER] LISTEN, I'M ABOUT TO GET MY JAW REWORKED.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AT OUR NEXT MEETING IN TWO WEEKS? NO. ALL RIGHT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
ALL RIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.