[00:00:04] >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE? >> GOOD MORNING. >> I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE THIS MORNING AND I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL [1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER] THE WORKSHOP AGENDA TO ORDER FOR JANUARY 26, 2023. IT IS 9:00 AM AND I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE. COUNCIL, OF COURSE. GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE. EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IN ATTENDANCE AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND EVERYONE THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS TELECAST, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT JANELLE, PLEASE ROLL CALL. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> PRESENT. >> MAYOR [INAUDIBLE]. >> PRESENT >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOUIS. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SCHUSTER. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER VIVIAN. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LESTASKI. >> HERE. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> SHE IS HERE. >> VERY GOOD. ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HERE AND ACCOUNTED FOR. LET'S MOVE TO DISCUSSION ITEMS, [3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (40 Min)] ITEM 3A. PLEASE, JANELLE. >> 3A. CLARIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. >> VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS. WE HAVE ONE OF OUR ITEMS THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY. I DON'T TEND TO SEE IS IN CAT. WE HAVE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ITEM, THIS ITEM 3D ON THAT COUNCIL. IF YOU WANT US TO DISCUSS THAT, WE CAN HOLD THAT TO THAT ITEM OF CONCERN. LET'S START OUT WITH OUR DISCUSSION. COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER, ANYTHING SIR? >> YEAH, I HAVE. I JUST KEEP COMING BACK BECAUSE I WROTE DOWN NOTICE, I JUST DIDN'T WRITE MY ITEM ITEM NUMBERS DOWN. >> SURE. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> YEAH. COME BACK TO ME I'M SORRY. >> OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] >> SORRY. THANKS. PROBABLY [LAUGHTER] >> DIDN'T SEIZE ON FOR DISCUSSION IN WORKSHOP, BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TENANTRY. THIS IS THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION RE-AUTHORIZATIONS. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND THEY SEEM TO MISUNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW IDCS FOUNDED HALF CENT SALES TAX FROM OUR TWO PERCENT WE COLLECT. THIS HALF CENT IS DISTRIBUTED ACCORDING TO IDC CHARTER WITHIN THE FOUR SILOS. IF THIS GOES ON THE BALLOT AND FAILS, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING FROM THE CURRENT SITUATION. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE TAX RATE. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF SALES TAX THAT IF IT FAILED, IDC WOULD CONTINUE AS IT IS TODAY UNTIL I BELIEVE IT'S 2029 WHEN THAT AUTHORIZATION THAT WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS EARLIER EXPIRES. WE PROBABLY WOULD BRING IT UP AGAIN TO THE VOTERS OF HIS INVEST THIS TIME AROUND. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM IN DOING THIS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE SOME GREAT WORK WITH THE CROCKETT BALL FIELDS. IT'S IN THE SAND HILL CRANE, 23RD STREET REHAB. WE USE IT FOR FUNDING [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL OF WHICH WORK. >> IT'S MATCHING FUNDS FROM EACH WORK. IT'S WORTH THE MONEY FROM THE EAST ARE MATCHED TO THE MELODRAMA BRIDGE COMING FROM SOMETHING WE KICKED AROUND IN IDC A NUMBER OF TIMES. IT'S THREE SILOS BEFORE. I KEEP GOING BACK AND THEN I DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IDC. AN ISSUE WE COULDN'T FIND ANY GOOD REASON TO GO FROM 443 THOUGH THAT HAD BEEN PROPOSED. BUT I WONDER IF WE SHOULDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT AGAIN. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SILO, THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE BRIDGE FUNDS, BUT IT HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT PRODUCE PRIMARY JOBS AND PROJECTS LIKE THAT AREN'T GOING TO COME ALONG VERY OFTEN. WE HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE SILO ALONE, WE COULD HAVE TAKEN THAT OUT OF [OVERLAPPING] >> DAVID, THIS IS A CLARIFICATION SITUATION HERE. IF WE WANTED TO DEBATE [NOISE] AND TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THAT, LET'S DO IT AT THE REGULAR MEETING. >> PERFECT. >> YES. OKAY. >> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. >> OKAY. THEN AM GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ANYTHING ELSE, DAVID? >> NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. >> JOHN PAUL. >> THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD WAS A CO-RELATED ISSUE AND I TALKED TO KEANE ROBIN DAVID YESTERDAY ABOUT SOME LANGUAGE. [00:05:01] I'M TRYING TO LOOK AND SEE WHICH ONE. [OVERLAPPING] IT'S IN THE BUILDING CODE SECTION WHERE THE FEES ARE AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE ON FILL MATERIAL AND THE ABILITY TO FILL WITHIN A V ZONE IF APPROVED BY STAFF WITH ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE YOU ALL COMFORTABLE THAT IT WOULDN'T ADVERSELY AFFECT NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. WE ARE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE LIKE THAT? >> I THINK SO, YES. >> IF PEOPLE WANT ME TO RECITE IT, I CERTAINLY CAN. RIGHT NOW THAT SECTION BASICALLY IS SAYING FOR PLACEMENT OF FILL WITH THE VEBE MAXIMUM OF 1 FOOT OF FILM MAKING PLACE ACROSS THE LOT FOR SITE GRADING AND LANDSCAPING PURPOSES. THEN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY WAS ADDING IN LESSER STATEMENT I'M SORRY. >> [LAUGHTER] WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GET YOU SOME LONGER ARMS? [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU DAN. >> THAT DOESN'T MAKE [OVERLAPPING] >> MY WRITING IS BAD. [LAUGHTER] UNLESS THE STATEMENT OF ADVERSE IMPACTS IS PROVIDED BY A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND THE CITY ENGINEER APPROVES THE PROPOSED DESIGN. BASICALLY, IF THERE'S NO ADVERSE IMPACT AND ROB APPROVES IT, THEN A DEVIATION ABOVE 1 FOOT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE. IN CERTAIN CASES [INAUDIBLE]. >> AS LONG AS YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IF THE INFORMATION IS BROUGHT TO YOU. THE WAY I WAS READING THAT IS THAT THERE WASN'T AN OPTION BECAUSE THERE IS THIS MAXIMUM 1 FOOT IN THAT LANGUAGE SO, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. >> THE ONLY THING IS WE WANT TO GET THAT LANGUAGE PAST OUR CRS REPRESENTATIVE AND MAKES SURE THAT IT PASSES THE TEST SO JUST ON US WE'RE NOT CREATING ANY VIOLATIONS THERE. >> WITHIN THE CRS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT, PHIL? >> WELL, TYPICALLY THE CRS IS GEARED TOWARD RIVERINE SITUATIONS NOT SO MUCH SEARCH. A LOT OF THEIR POLICIES ARE BASED ON THAT. THEY HAVE BASICALLY A POLICY THAT SAYS IF YOU RAISE A CERTAIN AMOUNT ON A TRACK, YOU HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT ELSEWHERE WITHIN THAT SAME FLOODWAY? >> WE ARE NOT IN FLOODWAY AND I HAVEN'T SEEN A RIVER HERE IN A WHILE. [OVERLAPPING] >> NO, THAT'S THE SAME AS FLOOD REGULATIONS AND WIND STORM REGULATIONS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. THEY'RE GEARED FOR WHERE THEY HAVE THE MOST CLAIMS. THAT'S NOT HERE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> HOWEVER, WE DO PAY THE LION'S SHARE OF THE PREMIUM. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> JUST WANTED TO GET THAT IN. >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER]. >> A GOOD POINT. >> UNFAIRLY, WE PAID THEM. >> BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY PROPOSED LANGUAGE HAS TO BE VETTED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. >> WE'RE GOING TO CALL AND DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM HERE VERY SHORTLY. >> HOPEFULLY, BEFORE THIS EVENING. >> YES. >> OKAY. >> BE READY FOR [OVERLAPPING]. >> YES. >> OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. >> BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT ITEM 10D, COUNCIL, ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA THROUGH 10N FOR ALL THESE CODE CHANGES, PROCEDURALLY, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS WHEN WE HAVE THE REGULAR MEETING, I'M GOING TO CONSIDER IT LIKE A CONSENT AGENDA PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AND HAVE JANELLE READ ALL 10D THROUGH 10N AT ONE TIME, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO PULL ONE OUT TO DISCUSS IT INDIVIDUALLY; IF NOT, WE'LL BE VOTING ON THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME. WHILE WE HAVE THESE GENTLEMEN HERE, BEFORE WE LEAVE, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS 10D THROUGH 10N, THE CODE CHANGES? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. >> I JUST WANT TO ALSO WISH TODD WELL, HE HAD SOME MINOR SURGERY AND WE JUST WANT TO WISH HIM WELL IN HIS RECOVERY. >>GET WELL TODD. >> YES. >> WAIT TO SEE HOW ALL THAT WORKS OUT FOR HIM [LAUGHTER] AS SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS THAT SURGERY, I AM WAITING TO SEE HOW IT WORKS. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] >> JOHN, ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO, SIR. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS SHARON. >> JUST ONE OBSERVATION ON THE 11J. >> 11J. >> JUST A LITTLE MISTAKE THERE ON THE DATE. I THINK WHEN YOU COME DOWN THE BACKGROUND, A, WHERE IT SAYS DECEMBER 14TH, 2023. >> IT SHOULD BE 2022. [00:10:02] >> IT SHOULD BE 2022. >> YOU ARE RIGHT. >> THERE'S A TYPO IN 11J. IT SAYS DECEMBER '23, IT SHOULD BE DECEMBER '22. [OVERLAPPING] NO, IT'S ON THE 11J. >> 11J. >> I WOULD SAY THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A TEACHER ON THE COUNCIL. >> THAT'S RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] >> WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT GETS CORRECTED. >> BECAUSE THE DOG ATE THE EX-TEACHERS HOMEWORK. >> THAT'S RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> COUNCILMAN BOUVIER. >> YEAH. LET'S GO BACK TO THE IDC, I BELIEVE IT IS, THE PROPOSAL. LET'S SEE WHAT IS IT. >> 10B. >> 10B, YEAH. THEY HIGHLIGHTED IT, WITHOUT A [NOISE] FIXED EXPIRATION DATE. WHY WOULDN'T THERE BE AN EXPIRATION DATE? >> WE DID THAT TILL WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE IDC. THAT ALLOWS THIS TO CONTINUE TO RUN. NOW WE CAN STOP THAT, THE COUNCIL CAN STOP THAT ANY TIME AND TAKE THAT BACK. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT PREVENTS US FROM HAVING TO COME BACK CONSTANTLY RE-UPDATING IT. >> THE REASON YOU DO THAT TOO IS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS MONEY IS PROBABLY, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BIG PROJECT, YOU WANT TO ISSUE DEBT. RIGHT NOW, CONTINUALLY, YOU'RE LIMITED BY THESE BACKSTOPS IN THERE. IF YOU CAN GET A BETTER RATE OR A BETTER DEAL OR YOU CAN STRETCH IT OUT OR SHORTEN IT UP, YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY BY NOT HAVING AN EXPIRATION DATE. AS THE MAYOR SAID, COUNCIL CAN STOP AT ANY TIME. >> FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE SIX YEARS AWAY FROM THE EXPIRATION OF THIS AS IT STANDS, WE'D HAVE TROUBLE SELLING A LOT OF DEBT WITH ONLY A SIX-YEAR GUARANTEE. >> IF WE WERE TO DO A MAJOR BEACH RE-NOURISHMENT, WE COULDN'T DO IT. WE'D HAVE TO WAIT FOR FIVE YEARS, WAIT FOR THE RE-UP, AND THEN DO IT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, AND EVEN THEN, UNDER THE OLD GUIDELINES, YOU CAN ONLY DO IT OVER 10 YEARS, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE FAVORABLE TO YOU AT THE TIME. >> THE IDC, WE'VE DONE SOME REALLY GREAT PROJECTS AROUND TOWN AND I THINK WE CAN SHOW THAT THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS. IT HAS MERIT TO GO WELL INTO THE FUTURE. THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO DO THIS NO FIXED EXPIRATION DATE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MIKE? >> HE DEALS IN DAIRY PRODUCTS. HE'S ALL ABOUT THE EXPIRATION. [LAUGHTER] >> THEY ARE A MUST. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] I'M GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN ROB. >> I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION ON 11F. >> YES. >> F AS IN FRANK. >> 11F. >> WHY ARE WE CHANGING THAT FUNDING SOURCE OR WHAT'S MAKING? >> WE DIDN'T PUT THE FUNDS IN THAT DRAINAGE FUND TO GO AND DO IT, SO I NEED TO MOVE IT TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE FUNDS. [OVERLAPPING] >> THIS IS PART OF THE MASTER DRAINAGE? >> THIS IS THE STRAND DRAINAGE STUDY. THIS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE MASTER. [INAUDIBLE] >> WE'RE GOING TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THIS PROGRAM. >> YEAH, THIS IS OUR GRAND PROJECT. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >> THAT PROJECT, THAT WAS IN THE PIPELINE FOR HOW LONG? >> WE APPLIED FOR IT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. IT WAS UNDER, ACTUALLY, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ROB'S PREDECESSOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS DIDN'T WANT TO DO THIS. >> YEAH. I DO REMEMBER IT. THANK YOU, RONALD. APPRECIATE IT. ANYTHING ELSE, MARIE? >> THAT'S IT. >> VERY GOOD. LET'S GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER. >> CAN I TALK ABOUT ONE MORE ITEM? 10 O THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYMENT EMPLOYEE PENSION. THAT'S AWESOME. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN 20 YEARS. >> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. I WANTED TO TELL THAT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME AND I CAN'T TELL YOU, WELL, IN THE 12 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S PROBABLY OVER 20 YEARS THAT WE'VE MADE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE CIVILIAN PENSION PLAN. IT'S FINALLY GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF LOVE LIKE THE OTHER PLANS ARE. IT'S NEUTRAL TO THE PLAN, WHICH IS WONDERFUL. WHICH IS ALSO [NOISE] SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THAT PLAN, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO TOOK THE HIT, MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS, THE CAP BENEFITS, AND DID ALL THOSE THINGS THAT KEPT THAT PLAN EXTREMELY HEALTHY. NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE THE FRUITS OF THAT LABOR A LITTLE BIT. >> YEAH. BECAUSE I WAS READING THROUGH IT AND I THINK IT'S GREAT. I JUST WONDERED WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG TO SEE THAT INCREASE? >> WELL, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT IS MARKET DEPENDENT AND A LOT OF IT IS ALSO DEPENDENT UPON JUST THE GENERAL AGES OF THE POPULATION. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE SWEET SPOT, WE CAN GET IT TO ROLL. IT'S ALL ACTUARIALLY DRIVEN, WHICH MAKES MY EYES ROLL BACK IN MY HEAD, BUT IT MADE SENSE WHEN WE TALKED TO THE ACTUARY. >> COOL. >> YES, MIKE. >> I HAD TWO OTHER ONES. I'M SORRY. CAN I GO AHEAD? >> WE'LL FINISH WITH COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER. >> NO, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD ON THAT. I REALLY WANTED JUST TO [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT, BEVERLY AND DAN, [00:15:01] THEY'D KILLED THEMSELVES ON IT RATHER. [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH IT. >> YES. THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE, WILLIAM? >> NO, THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU. >> KUDOS TO THIS COUNCIL FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE THIS YEAR, IT'S THE FIRST COUNCIL IN, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, 25 YEARS THAT'S LOOKED AT THE CIVILIAN PENSION AND MADE A POSITIVE CHANGE. KUDOS TO YOU. I KNOW THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. >> WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE PRIOR BUDGET TALKS, WHEN YOU BROUGHT THIS UP. >> OH, GOD, YES. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >> COUNCILMAN BOUVIER. >> 11C, THE F-150 RESPONDERS. AFTER THE AGENDA CAME OUT, I MET A CONSTABLE AT THE GAS STATION AND WE WERE TALKING TRUCKS OR WHATEVER, AND HE SAID THAT HIS UNIT, THE F-150 THAT HE JUST RECENTLY WAS IN POSSESSION OF, THAT WAS A POLICE PACKAGE, HAD A MAJOR FAILURE. I LOOKED INTO IT AND THERE ARE TWO MAJOR FAILURES WITH THOSE TRUCKS, ONE BEING THE TRANSMISSION AND THE OTHER BEING THE TURBO. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WERE AWARE OF THIS. >> OH, WE ARE, AND WHAT'S HITTING US NOW IS THE LIFTER ISSUE IN ALL THE TAHOES. WE'RE GOING THROUGH MOTORS PRETTY QUICK. SINCE THE CROWN VICTORIA LEFT US, THERE IS NOT A ROCK SOLID ALTERNATIVE. RIGHT NOW, DAVID IS JUST FINE WITH WHAT WE CAN GET FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS SO WE GET THEM ON THE STREET. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THE F-150S WE'VE HAD SO FAR [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THE TURBO OR THE TRANSMISSIONS YET. >> YEAH. >> BUT THOSE TRUCKS ARE PRIMARILY IN SUPERVISORY [INAUDIBLE]. [NOISE] >> THEY DRIVE A LITTLE SLOWER. >> CHIEF HAS ONE. >> YES. [BACKGROUND] >> WE'VE GOT THREE QUICK ITEMS, 11E THAT IS THE [NOISE] AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM FOR OUR FOURTH TROLLEY. JUST A QUESTION. THERE HE IS. [NOISE] GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING. >> HOW ARE YOU? [OVERLAPPING] I KNOW, WELL, THIS IS FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM, THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE REFURBISHMENT COST. >> NO, SIR. >> YES. >> IF YOU REMEMBER, THE ORIGINAL TROLLEYS CAME TO US ON AIR CONDITIONING. THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ON THOSE TROLLEYS WERE AN AD, BECAUSE THEY WERE AN AD, WE HAVE TO TREAT THEM AS AN AD. >> HOW MUCH TOTAL NOW ARE WE PUTTING INTO THAT FOURTH TROLLEY TO REFURBISH THEM? >> 1.5, 1.6. COUNCIL HAD ASKED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS IF THERE WERE GOING TO BE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT AND THUS WE CAN MAKE AND THEN ONE, TWO THINGS THAT WE'D SEE COMING WAS THIS AIR CONDITION REHAB, IT IS BEING DONE BY A SEPARATE COMPANY AND ALSO WE HAVE TO HIRE THE INSPECTORS TO GO BACK OVER THERE AND OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION. >> UNFORTUNATELY, WE LOST MR. CARRERA, WHO USED TO HELP US WITH A LOT OF THAT. >> CORRECT. >> HOW MUCH IS THAT INSPECTOR GOING TO BE COMING UP? >> THAT SHOULD BE AROUND 30 OR $40,000. >> OKAY. >> IT'LL BE THE SAME [NOISE] INSPECTOR THAT DID THE OTHER THREE. >> BUT IT IS BUDGETED? >> IT IS. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >> JIM. DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES ON WHAT THE USAGE IS, WHAT THE BROADER SHIP IS OF THE TROLLEYS? >> WELL, THERE IS THAT GUY. [LAUGHTER] >> FOR THAT PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON IT. >> WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU AS WE GO WEEKLY REPORTED MONTHLY. >> WHY DON'T YOU COME WITH PRE-PARABLE SPREADSHEETS SEND IT TO COUNCIL JUST AS AN FYI. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JAMES. I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. YES. ONE MORE QUESTION. >> DID WE GET THE SIGNS IN THE WINDOWS, SAY DOLLAR A RIDE? >> WE POSTED ON THE INSIDE OF IT NOT IN THE WINDOWS BUT THEY ALL GO SIT INSIDE. >> BUT THEN IT'S TOO LATE. THEY'RE ALREADY PAID. >> WE'LL PROBABLY PUT THE FRONT WINDOWS THEY GET IN. >> YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WAS TOO CHEAP BUT OKAY. [LAUGHTER] >> WHAT'S THE CONCERN THERE, IF I MAY ASK? >> IS THAT A CONCERN, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS. I MEAN, PEOPLE MIGHT THINK IT'S 5 TO $6 PER RIDE, BUT IF THEY KNOW THAT IT'S $1 A RIDE, THEY'LL BE OUT, MORE TO JUMP ON IT AND RIDE IT AROUND. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. >> YEAH. IT'S CHEAP. >> AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE ADVERTISED. >> SHARON. IS THIS YOUR QUESTION ON THE TROLLEY? >> NO. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S FINISH THIS UP AND I'LL FINISH MINE, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU THEN. >> ARE WE ADVERTISING ON THEM? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. >> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST SCHEDULE ONCE WE GET THE FOURTH WENT BACK TO, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN ALTERNATE AND RUN MORE TRIALS. >> WHAT'S THE REVENUE WE'RE GENERATING FROM THE ADVERTISING? >> WHEN WE'RE ADVERTISING, WE ARE GENERATING ABOUT 35 TO 4,500 A MONTH. >> [NOISE] WHEN YOU BRING ALL THESE. >> MAKING A LOSS LITTLE LESS PAINFUL, BUT STILL PAINFUL, NONE THE LESS. >> WHEN YOU BRING THIS FACT SHEET BACK, COULD YOU PUT THAT INFORMATION ON THERE? [00:20:02] >> YEAH. >> WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO [OVERLAPPING] >> ARE OVER-HYPED. >> RIDERSHIP WRITTEN REVENUE WOULD BE GOOD. >> YEAH. >> THANKS, JAMES. >> THAT'D BE GREAT. JAMES IS DOING A GREAT JOB WITH OUR STUFFS. >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. APPRECIATE IT. LEBANON, COUNCIL, AND THIS IS MORE FOR I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO BETTER PARTS FOR GALVESTON. MY GOODNESS, ANOTHER 55,000 THAT THEY HAVE GENERATED FOR ART SHAPED STRUCTURE. BARBARA, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN NEEDED. NO QUESTIONS REALLY. I JUST WANTED TO THANK PUBLICLY BETTER PARCH FOR GALVESTON. THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER FORMING AT US. >> PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST CITY ASSOCIATED GROUPS THAT WE HAVE. >> THE POOL BROUGHT OUT THIS GROUP TO FORM AT IT'S JUST BEEN PHENOMENAL. IT WILL HELP ENHANCE OUR PARTY DECK FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES, FOR SMALL CHILDREN AND EVEN ADULTS. IT'S MUCH NEEDED OVER THERE. >> WHO WAS BEING RUN VERY EFFICIENTLY. I GET GREAT COMPLIMENTS ABOUT IT. ONLY CONCERNS I GET IS PEOPLE COMPLAINING WHEN IT SHUTS DOWN, THEY CAN'T GET TO IT. >> I KNOW. >> YEAH. >> OVER WINTER IT WILL OPEN? >> IT WILL OPERATE EASTER WEEKEND. >> [OVERLAPPING] I MEAN, I NEED TO GET THE POOL, FIRST ONE. >> NO. I SAID THAT'S A GREAT WEEKEND. >> TRUST ME, THAT'S STILL COLD. [LAUGHTER] >> IT WILL NOT BE OVER BECAUSE THAT POOL IS NOT HEATED AND IT'S USUALLY IN THE '60S STILL MAYBE CAUSED THE SEVEN-DAY BUT THE LAST ONE WILL BE OPEN AND WE'LL TOUCH IT UP AND HE DID SOME. >> VERY GOOD. >> AND BE READY FOR YOU TO SWIM. >> I'M READY. >> COUNCIL MEMBER. >> OKAY. I HAVE TO GET IN THERE. >> DO MY LAPS. >> THANK YOU, BARBARA. BRIAN WE MAY DO THIS, BUT CAN WE SEND A LETTER OF THANK YOU BEFORE THE PARCH. >> CAN WE DO SOME PROCLAMATION OR THANK YOU PROCLAMATION. >> WE CAN MAKE IT PUBLIC TO CHANCE. BUT IF WE COULD SEND A LETTER BRIAN, SOMETHING OFFICIAL WITH A LETTER FROM COUNCIL THANKING THEM FOR ALL OF THEIR SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS AND FOR THIS PROJECT. >> YEAH. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. JANELLE, WE COULD MAYBE HAVE A LETTER OF RECOGNITION OR CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION FOR THE BETTER PART. >> JANELLE AND I WORKED TOGETHER ON THE LETTERED OF THINGS. >> ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GREAT. LAST ONE I HAD IS 11 P, AS IN PAUL. THIS IS THE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION AND CONTRIBUTION RATE FROM THE CITY. BRIAN, I KNOW THAT THIS WENT OUT TO RANK AND FILE OF THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THIS WAS PASSED BY THEM LAST THURSDAY, I THINK, AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR INPUT IN THE PITCHING BOARD FOR WORKING WITH THE CITY AND BRINGING THIS TO FRUITION. >> I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE WORK WE DID WITH TRAVIS ON THIS, AND FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT AND OTHER FEATHER IN YOUR CAP. NOW BOTH PUBLIC SAFETY PENSIONS ARE ON A 30-YEAR TARGET, AND WE'VE GOT GUARDRAILS NOW, SO WE'RE MOVING ALONG AND WE'VE GOT GOOD FUNDING POLICIES IN PLACE. WE'RE COMPLETELY COMPLIANT AND WE CAN NOW BETTER BUDGET TO GET THESE FUNDS SHORED UP. ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF THE FIREFIGHTER IS A VERY GENEROUS FUNDING OR FIREFIGHTERS AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. >> THANK YOU, BRIAN. I APPRECIATE THAT. VERY GOOD, SHARON, YOU HAD ONE OTHER ITEM? >> YEAH. I DIDN'T MARK IT I WAS LOOKING FOR, BUT IT'S 11I, AND THIS IS JUST A QUESTION REGARDING A GAME OF BACKGROUND ABOUT THE CHILLER. PUT THIS. NOW IT SAYS IT WAS INSTALLED IN 2008? >> YES, MA'AM. >> WAS THAT PRE I? >> THAT WAS AFTER I. >> WORK WAS DONE AFTER I? >> YES MY BOSS. IT'S BEEN CHUGGING ALONG. >> SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR? >> YES, MA'AM. WELL, I THINK THE CHILLER IT REPLACED, [NOISE] IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT WAS BEFORE EITHER HERE OR HERE, BUT IT REPLACED PROBABLY THE CHILDREN THAT HAD LONG SINCE LIVED ITS LIFE AS DO MOST THINGS AROUND HERE. >> OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE TWO GUY. WHAT IS THE AVERAGE LIFE OF THE TWO? >> IT DEPENDS. I MEAN, OURS IS OUTSIDE HERE. YEAH. BUT WE PROP IT UP. I MEAN, I WOULD THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET 20, 25 YEARS OUT OF IT. >> WE DO PMS ON AND WE WASH THE COILS, WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE SALT HAS TAKEN OFF OF IT. BUT SITTING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, YOU GET 14 YEARS OUT OF COILS. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. >> IT'S MUCH BETTER NOW THAT WE HAVE THE ENCLOSURE AROUND IT, BEFORE IT WAS JUST BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS AND IT TOOK A BEATING. NOW WE'VE GOT IT SOMEWHAT PROTECTED, SO WE THINK WE'RE GOOD. >> AS WE REPLACE THESE, WE'RE PROTECTING THE COURSE, WE'RE PUTTING A COATING ON THEM, AND THAT EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THE CHILLER. YOU'LL GET ANOTHER EIGHT YEARS OUT OF THIS THING. I WILL SAY, WE BLED AS MUCH AS WE COULD OUT OF THAT TURN UP AND [00:25:01] NOW WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE WE WERE STARTING TO HAVE ISSUES. >> THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE DONE. ALL OF OUR PROJECTS IS TREATING THE COILS. SOME WE DID AT THE COUNTY WHEN BUTCH AND I WERE THERE BECAUSE WHEN LAGUARDIA GOT BUILT BEAUTIFUL FACILITY, AND TREATED ANY CALLS OR ANYTHING UP THERE, SO RIGHT THERE ON THE BEACH, THEY WERE GONE LIKE THAT. IT'S IN OUR SPEC NOW FOR EVERYTHING WE DO HERE, EVERYTHING IS TREATED, SO WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THESE THINGS. >> I WOULD SAY THIS TOO. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE MR. KIM WORTHY MONITORING THESE SITUATIONS. I'VE TALKED TO HIM A LOT. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S THE GRASS OUT IN FRONT OR IT'S THE TREES OR IT'S THE CHILLER, HE TAKES THIS VERY PERSONALLY AND WANTED TO STAY ON TOP OF IT. THANK YOU, BUTCH. >> THANK YOU, MAN. >> HE EITHER DOES A GOOD JOB OR WE DON'T LET HIM GO TO DISNEY. [LAUGHTER] >> SPENT TOO MUCH MONEY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> VERY GOOD. WE ARE THROUGH NOW WITH OUR CLARIFICATION. I KNOW CHRIS, MOVE TO ITEM 3B PLEASE JANET. [3.B. Discussion Of Council Goals For 2023 (Brown - 20 Min)] >> 3B, DISCUSSION OF COUNCIL GOALS FOR 2023. >> COUNCIL I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. I SENT YOU A LITERAL EMAIL HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK OUTLINING YOUR SIDE. THIS IS NOT YOUR ONLY TIME TO BRING FORWARD YOUR GOALS, BUT IT ALLOWS COUNCIL TO NOT NECESSARILY GET INTO A LONG DISCUSSION OR REALLY A LONG DESCRIPTION OF THE GOALS. THAT'S NOT THE GOAL HERE TODAY. WHAT IT IS IS TO BRING FORWARD THOSE FOR THE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT YOUR GOALS WILL BE OR WANT THOSE TO BE FOR THIS COMING YEAR, IF YOU HAVE OMIT THIS POINT. BRIAN, I WANT YOU, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU COULD OUTLINE TO AS BRIAN, HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE FLOW AS COUNCIL BRINGS THIS FORWARD. >> WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS WITH YOU GUYS WHEN WE MET WITH YOU DURING THE BUDGET. WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES WERE IN THESE THINGS. BUT IT HELPS US TO KNOW MORE POLICY DRIVEN WISE WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE. THAT WAY WE'RE NOT WORKING COUNTER TO WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. OR WE CAN IDENTIFY IF WE HAVE GOALS AND CONFLICT ON COUNCIL. BEFORE WE GET DOWN THAT ROAD AND WE GET TO THIS TABLE, WE CAN TRY TO GET ALL THESE THINGS WORKED OUT. WHAT THE MAYOR IS ASKING FOR IS MORE UP HERE WHERE THIS IS WHEN WE TALK MORE ESOTERIC. WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE YOUR DISTRICT IN FIVE OR TEN YEARS? WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE CITY IN FIVE OR TEN YEARS? WHEN WE TALK BUDGET, WE'RE USUALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST, SECOND, OR THIRD YEAR. THIS MAY EXTEND WELL BEYOND THAT BECAUSE SOME OF WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH LIKE, I KNOW A LOT OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROB WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH IS GOING TO TAKE YEARS TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS WE START. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THESE THINGS ON THE TABLE FROM YOU GUYS. WE WANT TO KNOW LONG-TERM WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN YOUR DISTRICT OR LONG-TERM WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAPPEN FOR GALVESTON AS A WHOLE FROM YOU GUYS? JUST THINK ALONG THOSE LINES. I'M NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING TO MAN, I REALLY WANT US TO BUY NEW SWINGS. THAT'S A BUDGETARY ITEM WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT YOU LET US KNOW. I'M REALLY LOOKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN EXTENSION OF THIS ROAD OR WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE B3 NOURISHMENT ALL THE WAY TO THIS END, OR WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE OVERPASS REPLACED ON 51ST STREET. BIG, BIG ITEMS THAT TAKE YEARS FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW THOSE NOW SO WE CAN START GETTING THEM IN BUDGET. >> THE COUNCIL, CAN BRING THOSE FORWARD ANYTIME, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE MORE LONG TERM. THIS ALLOWS BRIAN TO MAKE THE SUBJECTS, GET THEM INTO THE BUDGET SO THAT WHEN HE BRINGS THAT TO US COMING UP HERE. >> THIS IS A PRELUDE TO OUR CIP NEXT YEAR BECAUSE, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT WE'RE GETTING CAUGHT UP ON OUR BIG PROJECTS. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO BEFORE WE START EXPANDING A LOT OF TIME ON IT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU GUYS WANT. >> I'LL START THIS OFF AND I'M GOING TO GIVE [NOISE] HIM MINE. I'VE GOT TO STEP OUT. I HAD A CALL HERE I NEED TO TAKE BUT I'M GOING TO START OFF. BRIAN, I HAVE THREE GOALS, YOU KNOW MINE, I'VE TALKED TO YOU SO MUCH ABOUT THESE. THIS PELLET TONIGHT AND BRIDGE, I TALKED TO THE ALLIES, THE X AGAIN YESTERDAY THERE IT'S COMING. >> THEY MUST BE USING CARRIER PIGEONS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN LONG YEARS NOT COMING. >> [NOISE] BUT PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS FINISHED THIS CALENDAR YEAR. >> NOT GOING TO WORK. >> NOT GOING TO WORK. MY OTHER ONE IS THE PELICAN ISLAND DEVELOPMENT. OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF PELICAN ISLAND. WE HAVE PUT RECENTLY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA HERE ON AN UPDATE FOR THE BOARD, [00:30:02] I'M GOING TO EXPAND ON THAT [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE] AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF ALL THE CURRENT TALKS AND THE CURRENT ACTIVITIES THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE PORT HOUSTON ON TO MAKE THIS A REALITY OVER THERE. THAT WAS MINE. THE LAST ONE IS I WANT TO COMMEND OUR CHIEF OF POLICE AND BRIAN, THIS MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM. I HOPE THAT I CAN SAY THIS WILL START TO TAKE PLACE THIS CALENDAR YEAR. CHIEF, DO YOU THINK THAT'S THE CASE THEN? >> YES. OUR TARGET DATE FOR FULL IMPLEMENTATION RIGHT NOW, UNLESS WE HAVE ANY HICCUPS AS MARCH 1ST. >> OKAY. THANK YOU [NOISE] VERY MUCH. MARCH 1ST, DID YOU SAY CHIEF? >> YES, SIR. >> WE'LL GET YOU ON THE AGENDA AND LET YOU GIVE US REVIEW THAT WHEN WE GET TO IT. >> [NOISE] I WANT TO KEEP THIS IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS BECAUSE IT'S NOT WITHOUT COST TO THE CITY. I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW AS WE PROGRESS, WHAT WE'RE SPENDING AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THIS BECAUSE IT'S A PILOT PROJECT AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT A TRUE PILOT PROJECT IS FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE RESULTS IN MANAGING. >> RECENTLY, I AND BRIAN, WE HAVE A LITTLE DOG AND PONY SHOW THAT WE GO OUT ON THE STATE OF THE CITY. WE'VE DONE QUITE A FEW OF THEM. WE HAD ONE AT WIKI POET HERE RECENTLY WE HAD ONE LAST NIGHT, TOOK OUT STUDENT UNIVERSITY GROUP. WE GO THROUGH WHAT THE CITY IS DOING AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. WHEN I MENTIONED THIS MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM, EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT MOST PEOPLE GO. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TIME IS RIGHT TO DO THAT. THAT DOVETAILS INTO A LOT OF OUR OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY ON THE ISLAND, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR HOMELESSNESS POPULATION. BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT ACCOMPLISHED. HELP ME GET THE NET INITIATED HERE. THANK YOU, CHIEF. >> YES SIR. >> CAN I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT ON YOUR GOAL? IF I MAY. >> SURE. >> I THINK IT'S GREAT WHAT WE'RE DOING MENTAL HEALTH WISE. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ON THE AGENDA NEXT MEETING, THE HOMELESS. BUT I THINK WE WALK A VERY FINE LINE BETWEEN BECOMING A HAVEN FOR HOMELESS BECAUSE WE STARTED OFFERING TOO MANY SERVICES. >> HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT. >> LAST NIGHT, IT WENT ON FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES. THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE GAUSSIAN UNIVERSITY [OVERLAPPING] >> IT IS A VERY CRITICAL THING THAT WE NEED TO WATCH. >> I COMMEND YOU FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE LIKE I TOLD THE GROUP LAST NIGHT, I DON'T HAVE TO RUN FOR OFFICE. I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. YOU WALK A FINE LINE THAT IF YOU BECOME THE CITY THAT PROVIDES 100 PERCENT OF THE SERVICES, YOU'RE GOING TO BECOME THE CITY THAT RECEIVES 100 PERCENT OF THE NEED. WE HAVE YOU CORRECT. >> TRULY IT IS. I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH COUNCIL, HAVE TO KEEP A VERY CLOSE EYE ON THAT BECAUSE I SEE MORE AND MORE THINGS POPPING UP. THIS MORNING I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF THE HOTELIERS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE HE'S BEEN HAVING ESPECIALLY A LOT OF ISSUES WITH HOW AND WHEN A PROJECT IS STILL YOUNG 47TH STREET TO HOMELESS PEOPLE AND WE WENT OVER TO SAY DUMB, THEY CAN'T JUST LIVE THERE. BUT WHERE ARE YOU FROM? THEY'RE LIKE, WE JUST GOT OUT OF JAIL. BUT, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? WHICH IS YOUR HOMETOWN? WISCONSIN. NOW IS THE WHOLE UNITED STATES PASSING HERE [LAUGHTER] HOMELESS HERE. >> EXCEPT FOR TODAY, IT'S WARM HERE. NO, THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM. YOU ARE THE HIGHWAY AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR YEARS BUT WHEN YOU ARE THE COUNTY SEAT YOU HAVE THE JAIL THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WHEN YOU ARE ALSO THE PRIMARY HEALTH CARE PROVIDER FOR THAT, THAT'S ALSO A DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THIS. YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S A FINE LINE THAT WE WALK HERE. BUT I DO THINK THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, FOR INSTANCE, LAST NIGHT WE HAD A DOS BEHIND WALGREENS. CHANCES ARE WE'VE PROBABLY HANDLED THIS PERSON BEFORE AND IF WE EITHER HAD THIS INTERVENTION GROUP IN PLACE, ONE, MAYBE PERHAPS THAT PERSON MAY NOT HAVE PERISHED AND TWO, I BELIEVE WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THEM INTO A SYSTEM THAT WOULD'VE GOTTEN THEM HELP. KEEP IN MIND THE SYSTEM THAT GETS THESE PEOPLE HELP US NOT ON THE ISLAND. IT'S IN HOUSTON. >> THAT'S RIGHT. ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE THAT WE WILL ADDRESS IS THIS MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM GETS MORE ESTABLISHED, IS THE RESOURCES AND THE CARE FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT STANDPOINT OF WHAT IMPACT WE MAY HAVE ON THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DISCUSS MORE. BUT THOSE ARE MY THREE TOPICS THAT [00:35:02] I WANT TO ACCOMPLISH COMING UP HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY WORKING TOGETHER COUNCIL AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN ON THESE THREE TOPICS THAT I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY SEE FRUITION IN ENDPOINT ON THESE COMING UP. I'M GOING TO STEP OUT FOR A SECOND. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO OUR MAYOR PROBE TEAM, DAVID. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CONTINUING DOWN THIS ROAD WITH HIGH LEVEL, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE? THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO BE WITH US A FEW MONTHS SHOULD NOT COUNT IN. >> HERE'S NOT EASY TO ACCOMPLISH. [LAUGHTER] >> I ALWAYS DO IT IF I WAS KING FOR THE DAY, WALK AROUND GALVESTON, DRIVE AROUND GALVESTON. I ALWAYS HAVE VISIONS OF GRANDEUR PAVED ROADS OF GOLD AND ALL THAT. I'VE GOT TO LEVEL MYSELF DOWN AT TIMES, BUT WHEN WE OPEN THE DOOR, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT 2, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF MY BIGGER IDEAS. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A BIG BELIEVER. WE PUT SO MUCH EMPHASIS ON NORTH AND SOUTH CORRIDORS 27TH STREET, 25TH STREET, DOWN 23RD STREET, 37 STREET, GIVE PEOPLE FASTER NORTH AND SOUTH. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BIG BELIEVER OF RESIDENTS TRAVEL MORE EAST TO WEST. I FEEL I, EVEN THOUGH THEY AREN'T GOING NORTH TO SOUTH AS WELL, BUT TO GET ACROSS THE WHOLE ISLAND, WHETHER IT'S TO WORK OR WHATNOT. IF I WAS KING FOR A DAY, I'D SET THE VISION OF WHAT WE DID ON 27TH STREET PERFECT EXAMPLE. OP AVENUE U, YOUR MAJOR EAST OR WEST CORRIDORS. THAT'S JUST MY VISION IF I WAS KING FOR A DAY. A LOT OF STUFF WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PARKS, BASIC NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITIES, WE ARE DOING A LOT OF THAT AT THE CITY LIKE SEALED PARKS. I'M GOING TO STUDY THAT RIGHT NOW. JONES PARK IS GOING TO BE RE-DONE. THERE'S A LOT OF BASIC AMENITIES ARE DONE BY THOSE LARGER IDEAS AND YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN DISTRICT 2 BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN A BASIC MEAL. IT'S DRAINAGE UNDERNEATH THE STREET, THE AMENITIES AROUND THE STREET AS WELL. THAT'S JUST MY VISION AS FAR AS YOUR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE. >> I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CHAT WITH MICHAEL MINARD, AND FIND OUT WHY THE NORTH-SOUTH STREETS ARE SO WIDE, AND WHY THE EAST-WEST STREETS ARE SO NARROW. PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, BUT THERE'S SOMETIMES A 10-15 FEET DIFFERENCE IN WIDTH, AND THESE NORTH-SOUTH STREETS VERSUS THE EAST-WEST STREETS, WHICH MAKES YOUR VISUAL LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE. >> YEAH. >> ACTUALLY, AS A FREQUENDER OF THE HEIGHTS THESE DAYS BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER LIVES THERE. THEY HAVE TAKEN STREETS UP THERE LIKE 25TH STREET, AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY ABANDONED ONE OF THE LANES MAKES LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR US BECAUSE OF THE TROLLEY. BUT THEY'VE ACTUALLY ABANDONED ONE OF THOSE LANES TO WIDEN THE PARKING LANE FOR THE CARS AND THEY CREATE HIKE AND BIKE. I KNOW THAT'S NORTH AND SOUTH HERE, BUT THEIR VISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE THINK ABOUT THINGS. DON'T KNOW, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ON OUR LIST ON THE EAST-WEST CORNERS. >> ONE THING WE ALWAYS HERE IN DISTRICT 2 IS DRAINAGE, IF MY CAR GETS FLOODED, THAT'S ALWAYS A CONSTANT PROBLEM GALVESTON GOT TO FACE. HEAR ME I'LL SAY TO A BLOW IN THE FACE WHERE OUR ROADS WERE BUILT, AND RETENTION PONDS BEFORE THERE WAS EVEN CARS. I THINK WITH PUMP STATIONS THE EMPHASIS TOWARDS THINGS THAT IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE. LITTLE THINGS THAT NOT ONLY GET RID OF THE WATER QUICKER. >> THE GOOD THING I WILL TELL YOU TOO ESPECIALLY SINCE TRINO AND I SPENT A LOT OF QUALITY TIME TOGETHER IN RAIN EVENTS, BUT WE HAVE REALLY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT WE DID NOT KNOW. WE'RE BEGINNING TO LEARN MORE HOW TO INTERCONNECT, MUCH LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH OUR WATER SYSTEM, RUNNING MULTIPLE PUMPS KEEPING PRESSURE. THANKS TO FOLKS LIKE TRINO AND ROB THEY ARE WORKING WITH US NOW, WE'VE REALLY ACCOMPLISHED A LOT WITH THAT. EVEN IN ADDITION TO THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS, AND THE PUMP STATIONS, THE INTERCONNECTIVITY WHERE WE MOVE WATER, HOW WE HOLD WATER. WE'RE TAKING A WHOLE NEW APPROACH WITH, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT OUR BUILDING CODES, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU A GOOD PARTNER IN THIS GO LOOK AT THE NEW BANK UP ON 45TH AND SEAWALL AND LOOK AT THE PERMEABLE PARKING SPACES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THERE. >> ALONG THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT? [LAUGHTER] >> YEAH, THEY MADE ME FEEL GOOD SOMETIMES. BUT GO EVEN LOOK OR GO LOOK AT THE HOTEL THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROB WAS SPEAKING OF OVER OFF OF AVENUE U, THEY HAVE VERY UNIQUE WAYS TO RETAIN AND HOLD WATER IN RAIN EVENTS. THIS IS THE NEW WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS HERE, AND A LOT OF THAT IS A CREDIT TO ROBIN TRINO IN THEIR WORK. WE'RE ON TOP OF IT. [APPLAUSE] >> [BACKGROUND] DEPENDING ON HOW WE DO, OR WHAT WE DO TONIGHT, PASSAGE OF IDC, I HAVE AS A GOAL JUST TO TRY TO GET DOWN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME IF WE WANT TO HEAD IN THAT DIRECTION FOR ON THE BALLOT TO TOXIC CONSTITUENTS AND POINT OUT THE THINGS THAT ARE BENEFITING FROM IDC. I LIKE IT BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY POINT TO THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THAT MONEY AND IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER, [00:40:01] BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME EDUCATION TO GET THAT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, AND GET THAT OUT BEFORE MAY AND THAT FALLS ON OUR SHOULDERS TO DO SO. IT'S NOT REALLY SO MUCH AS A GOAL, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY A TEST. I THINK IF WE WANT TO SEE THAT PAST, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HIT THE TABLE. YOU HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR PEOPLE BECAUSE, I LOVE MY FRIENDS TO DEATH, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'D SAY [LAUGHTER] BUT THEY'D BENEFIT FROM IT ALL THE TIME. THAT'S WHAT I HAD, ANOTHER THING I HAD WAS TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE OR 3.5 PERCENT TAX CAP, WHICH I MEAN BY THAT IS I NAVIGATE, BUT HOW CAN WE ALLEVIATE THAT, THE STRAIN THAT IT DOES PUT OUR CITY BY DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING LOOKING AT CONTINUING, LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE REVENUE SOURCES, THEY'VE COME TO THE CITY, FINDING WAYS TO EXPAND OUR TAX BASE. WE'VE BEEN HEADED TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION. DRIVING AROUND DISTRICT 6 ALL THE TIME, LOOK AT ALL THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON AND ALL THE NEW COMPANIES THAT ARE WANTED TO COME TO GALVESTON AND WORK HERE WHATNOT. THERE'S THAT EMPHASIS IS TO ALLEVIATE THAT FOR OUR TAXPAYERS, BUT TO GIVE OUR CITIZENS ALSO SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ENJOY THAT THEY ARE OKAY. THAT'S JUST ME. THEN THE LAST DAY, MORE OF A KUMBAYA MOMENT ON MY WAY OUT OF COUNCIL, BECAUSE I'M A SHORT-TIMER AS MY FRIEND MARTY FLUKE USED TO SAY THAT THEY'RE SHORT TIMER HERE ON COUNCIL. TO SEE A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR THREE ENTITIES, THE CITY, THE PART WHERE IN THE WORST BOARD, COME TOGETHER TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE A COMMON GOAL TO WHERE WE WANT TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF ART OF GALVESTON, AS OUR MAJOR GOAL. ALL THREE OF US SHOULD BE WORKING TOWARDS OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL IS TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS HERE ON THE CITY OF GALVESTON. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL IS ACROSS THE THREE ENTITIES, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. >> THANK YOU, WILLIAM. >> THE MAYOR HAS RETURNED BECAUSE YOU'RE LISTENING. I HAVE SEVERAL, ONE OF WHICH IS CONTINUING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HARDENING. THAT'S NOT IT AT ALL AND IT MAKES IT A SAFER PLACE TO LIVE THAT THE NEXT STORM, BUT I ALSO SEE IT AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORT. PEOPLE FEEL SAFER, THEY SEE BETTER STREETS, THEY SEE BETTER GRIND. IT MAKES MORE PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE THIS THEIR HOME. BUDGET CONTROL, MAXIMIZING OUR ASSETS, WE JUST ALLUDED TO THAT. WE NEED TO FIND BETTER WAYS TO BRING MONEY INTO THE CITY, TO FUND THE GENERAL FUND AND DO THE JOB WE'RE DOING WITHOUT RAISING TAXES ANY OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE AS WILLIAM POINTS OUT, WE'RE UNDER SOME SERIOUS CONSTRAINTS WITH THE TAX GAP. THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY, BEACH PROTECTION AND RENOURISHMENT. WE CANNOT LIVE ON AN ISLAND FULL OF SAND, BUILT ON SAND, AND NOT PROTECT IT. SOMEONE AT ONE OF THE BEACH INSURER ASSOCIATION SAID ONE TIME, ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS THAT ANYTIME YOU BUILD EDGE OF THE WATER, WHETHER IT'S A CREEK, THE OCEAN OR A LAKE, OR RIVER, DOESN'T MATTER. YOU'RE MAKING A DECLARATION THAT THAT'S WATER THIS IS LAND, AND THERE'S THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE TWO AND YOU HAVE TO ENFORCE THAT NATURE DOESN'T TAKE WELL THAT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ENFORCE THAT. THAT'S IT. IT'S A LONG-TERM PROJECT AND NEVER-ENDING PROJECT. IT'S EXPENSIVE, IT TAKES ALL OF OUR STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THAT. SO MUCH OF THE ISLANDS, HEALTH, WELFARE, ECONOMICS, LIVEABILITY DEPENDS ON MAINTAINING THAT BEACH. I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERY BIT OF IT FROM BIG REEF TO ST. LOUIS PASS. WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT BEACH, PEOPLE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT AND UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY IS WORKING ON THAT WITH OUR PARTNERS AND CARDBOARD. IT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR THE PORT, AND AS I SAY, COUNTY STATE THE FEDS. I THINK THAT, IF WE FOCUS ON NOTHING ELSE, THEN THE [LAUGHTER] NEXT FEW YEARS WILL BENEFIT FROM THAT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE US ALL BRING MORE PUBLIC INPUT TO THE TABLE. I KNOW WE ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE WHO RUN FOR OFFICE. WE HEAR A LOT OF THAT, BUT LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT THESE THINGS. THEY HAVE IDEAS. WE DEPEND ON OUR VOLUNTEER BOARDS. WE HAVE MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEER, AND LET'S REMEMBER TO APPRECIATE THEM, TO LISTEN TO THEM, AND BRING THEIR VOICES TO THE TABLE WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. YOU MENTIONED PELICAN ISLAND, A BRIDGE WOULD BE NICE. >> A WAY TO GET THERE, HOPEFULLY. >> OTHERWISE, THEY GOING TO BUY THEMSELVES A SMALL FERRY IF WE DON'T GET BRIDGE OUT THERE. [00:45:03] BUT SECURE PELICAN ISLAND, I THINK WE'RE MOVING INTO A ZONE WHERE WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH PORT HOUSTON ABOUT THAT 1,100 ACRES AND MAKE A DEAL BY THE LAND WHEREVER IT TAKES TO SECURE THAT, TO MAKE THAT A VIABLE PART OF THE CITY. IT'S WILDERNESS OVER THERE, IT'S COYOTE TERRITORY OVER THERE NOW. WE NEED TO EXPAND. THE FLATS IN PELICAN ISLAND ARE WHAT WE HAVE LEFT WE'RE GETTING INTO THE MARSHES ON THE WEST END, AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO A WHOLE LOT MORE OF THAT. BUT PELICAN ISLAND, HOW WILL WE GO ABOUT LAYING HANDS ON IT. HOW WILL WE GO ABOUT CONTROLLING THAT PROPERTY. I WANT TO SEE IT ON THE TAX RULES. >> TO GO TO ONE YEAR EARLIER. I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT, AND TO ONE YEAR EARLIER COMMENTS ON THE IDC, THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD NEED THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SILO. BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITHOUT HAVING AN ENDPOINT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD DO A BOND TO PURCHASE THAT LAND AND SO FORTH. >> THAT'S TRUE POINT. [OVERLAPPING] BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE IT CHANGE HANDS, START GETTING DEVELOPED AND SEE IT. JUST GO NEVER WINDING UP ON THE LANDFILLS. >> THAT WON'T HAVE HAPPENED. >> WE SAY THAT BUT I WOULD HAVE SAID THAT ABOUT $100 MILLION CRUISE TUNNEL. >> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, DAVID. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING IS DISCUSSION ON PELICAN ISLAND. WE NEED TO LOOK AT A MASTER PLAN AND HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH PELICAN ISLAND FROM THE STANDPOINT OF CITY INVOLVEMENT IN POSSIBLE INCENTIVES OR TOURS OR SUBTYPE. >> WHICH IS THE OTHER REASON. >> WE NEED TO DO THAT UPFRONT. WE GET INTO THIS AND WE COME IN AND TRY TO RETROFIT IT LATER. WE NEED TO DO THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MICHELLE HAS TALKED TO BRIAN ABOUT IT, AND I KNOW DAVID, YOU'RE ON BOARD WITH THAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT UPFRONT. SO WHEN WE THIS IS DEVELOPED, WE HAVE THE TOOLS IN PLACE TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO MAKE IT AS APPROPRIATE AS POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >> THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT. JOHN. >> WHERE TO START? [LAUGHTER]. I'LL START WITH THAT SAME TOPIC DEVELOPMENT PELICAN ISLAND, DEFINITELY MIRROR ALL YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT. MASTER PLAN, [INAUDIBLE], START LOOKING AT SEWER CAPACITY OVER THERE AND WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE. I KNOW YOU'VE MET WITH ROGER GUENTHER, PORT HOUSTON. I THINK I'VE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM THAT SAME DAY. THE PORT IS INTERESTED WITH DOING SOMETHING DOWN HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO REACH CAPACITY AT SOME OF THEIR OPERATIONS UP THERE WITHIN THE NEXT 5-7 YEARS, AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER PLACES RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY CAN PUT IN FACILITIES, AND SO PRIME PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. THE CHALLENGE WITH PELICAN ISLAND NOW IS ON THE LAND SIDE. IT HAS GOT GREAT WATER ACCESS, BUT THE LAND SIDE IS LACKING. WE HAVE NO RAIL OVER THERE, WHICH IS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF DOING ANYTHING INDUSTRIAL OVER THERE. IF THERE'S ANY DOCKER CONTAINER TERMINAL OVER THERE THAT PUTS ABOUT 5,000 TRUCKS ON OUR ROADS A DAY, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN'T HANDLE THAT. HARBOR SIDE IS DEFINITELY INADEQUATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO WE NEED TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. TEXTILE IS LOOKING AGAIN AT FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR A BRIDGE FROM GALVESTON TO BOLIVAR. WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE ON THE EAST END OR PELICAN ISLAND. >> I WONDER IF THEY'RE COORDINATING THEIR EFFORTS WITH THE DISTANCE. >> YES. THEY ARE. >> BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE IT A POTENTIAL FOR HAPPENING. >> YES. >> BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT IN ANOTHER LAND, THEY HAVE LEVIES AND SO FORTH, ALL HAVE ROADS ON THEM. >> THEY'VE HIRED H & T TO DO THE WORK AND THAT'S HEADED UP BY RUSS POPPE, WHO WAS THE HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DIRECTOR FOR MANY YEARS. >> WE'LL SEE HOW WELL THAT WORKED IN, [LAUGHTER]. NOT MYSELF. >> BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT HE'S VERY ATTUNED TO THE PROJECT AND THAT WAS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT AS PART OF THAT PROJECT IS THAT THEY LOOK AT HIGHWAY SEVEN, WHICH THIS WOULD BE AS FROM BASICALLY THE FOOT OF THE CAUSEWAY ALL THE WAY TO HIGH ISLAND, [00:50:02] AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE BIG CHANGES ON BROADWAY. I TOLD THEM I'M LESS INCLINED TO LOSE OUR HISTORIC BROADWAY, BUT I WOULD REALLY WISH THEY WOULD TAKE THAT INVESTMENT SERIOUSLY ON HARBOR SIDE AND INCORPORATE THAT, AND THEN WE HAVE WIN-WIN SITUATIONS. I'M TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY DOING SOME ELEVATION THROUGH DOWNTOWN SO WE HAVE CLEAR SPACE UNDERNEATH THE PARK AREAS AND TRANSPORT. WE CAN ELEVATE THE ROADS SO IT DOESN'T FLOAT AT HIGH TIDE. WE CAN WIDEN IT. WE CAN DO ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO WITH THE CARGO. >> YEAH. >> WE CAN FLY OVER ON THE HIGHWAY. ALL THOSE THINGS. THEY WERE EXTREMELY PLEASED AND RECEPTIVE WITH THAT. IT ALMOST INDICATED IT MADE THEIR LIVES EASIER. SO THERE'S GOOD NEWS THERE NOW, IF MY CRYSTAL BALL TELLS ME THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN WHILE WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE. BUT BOY, I TELL YOU WHAT, I DIDN'T THINK WE'D BE THIS FAR WITH THE COASTAL PROTECTION DISTRICT EITHER AND OF COURSE, THIS GROUP AT H&T DIDN'T HAVE SALARY, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET THERE. I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE ON THIS ONE. THE OTHER THING IS NOWHERE IN THEIR STUDY OF PLANS INCLUDES A BRIDGE TO BOLIVAR FROM ANYWHERE BUT GALVESTON. >> YEAH, DEFINITELY MAKE SENSE. >> BUT STILL WE CAN GET ONE FROM 45 TO THE WEST. >> ACTUALLY, A SECOND CROSSING CAME UP AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AND ALSO, I SAID MAYBE A BRIDGE FROM PELICAN ISLAND THAT'S MAYBE ONLY 8 FEET ABOVE THE WATER, SO NO SHIPS CAN GET ALL THE WAY TO USE THEM. I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. THEY DID NOT THINK THAT. >> RIGHT NO ONE THOUGHT >> CALLING THE [INAUDIBLE]. >> GOOD TRY. >> HE SAID FLATS, WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT. AGAIN, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THERE WITH JUST WHERE THEY PLACED THAT SCHOOL SUPPOSEDLY AREA. BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. OF COURSE, MY NO NEW REVENUE RATE, REDUCED THE BUDGET, NO NEW REVENUE. AT SOME POINT, THAT'S ALWAYS ON MY MIND. WE BROUGHT UP TRANSPORTATION IN TOWN. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE POST-OFFICE IN CHURCH EXTENDED ALL THE WAY TO 61ST STREET AND THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT. THE NORTH SIDE OF BROADWAY IS GOING TO START GETTING REDEVELOPED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THE MORE THAT HAPPENS, THE HARDER IT'S GOING TO GET TO TRY TO LINK THE DOWNTOWN, WITH THAT 61ST STREET AREA. >> WHICH MAY SPUR TO DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. >> WHEN I WAS GOING TO JUSTICE CENTER TO EXTEND POST-OFFICE AT LEAST FROM 54-61ST, BUT AT THAT TIME THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ENTRANCE. I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT MY SHORT TERM HOME, BUT HEY. >> THAT'S RIGHT. [LAUGHTER]. >> IT'S GOING TO GET BUSIER HERE ON THE ISLAND AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED OTHER TRANSPORTATION ROUTES TO FACILITATE ALL THE TRAFFIC. >> TOTALLY AGREED. >> IN THAT AREA THAT SOUND BY THERE, THAT DEPOT THAT I THINK THE HISTORIC FOUNDATION, THAT WOULD MAKE THE COOLEST, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE MARKET IN NEW YORK WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE MATTER OF FACT, THEY JUST OPENED A SIMILAR ONE IN SILVERTHORNE AND IT'S CALLED THE SILVERBERG MARKET WHERE YOU HAVE VENDORS, YOU HAVE BARS, YOU HAVE WHAT NOT, LIKE 30TH STREETS STATION IN PHILADELPHIA. THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL ASSET TO SHARON DISTRICT, ALONG WITH THE DOWNTOWN. >> DOWNTOWN IS CREEPING UP ON MARKET STREET RIGHT NOW. MORE AND MORE THINGS OPENING, MORE THINGS PLANNED OUT THERE, NOW IT'D BE A GOOD TIME MS. JOHNSONS TO EXTEND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ALL THE WAY OUT THERE, THAT WOULD REALLY DRAG ALONG [OVERLAPPING]. >> ONCE WE FINISH THE OTHER STREET THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN MY DISTRICT AND HER'S. >> THE WEST HAD DONE. >> AND HER DISTRICT, BOTH OUR DISTRICTS. >> JOHN WERE YOU CONSIDERING ALSO WE NEED TO EXTEND 60 FIRST TO HARBOR SIDE? >> IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THAT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION. >> IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH TAX. >> NO, IT WAS A STRAIGHT SHOT THERE, BUT THERE'S SOME LAND ACQUISITION, THERE'S TONS OF WETLANDS THAT YOU HAVE TO CROSS. >> IT WOULD BE A BRIDGE. >> IT WOULD BE A BRIDGE WHICH ARE EXPENSIVE RAILROAD TRACKS GOT TO GO ABOVE ALL THAT STUFF, HEY MAN I'M ALL FOR IT. >> THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO CLIMB TO GET OVER THE TRACKS ON OUR SIDE, BUT IT'D BE A PRETTY SHARP DROP-OFF. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S THE ISSUE. >>ONCE HARBOR SIDE GETS ELEVATED [OVERLAPPING] REMEMBER WHEN WE PRESENTED WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AIRPORT, DON'T FORGET OUR AIRPORT, WE HAVE AMAZING AIRPORT OUT THERE AND THE FAA AND TECH SIDE HAS SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OUT THERE WITH IMPROVEMENTS BUT WE NEED TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE. WE HAVE HAD ZERO DEVELOPMENT PRETTY MUCH OUT THERE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. [00:55:05] >> THERE ARE WORKING BOARDS GOING INTO THAT STUDY TO MAKE IT AN ACTUAL TERMINAL WHERE THEY CAN GET REGULAR FLIGHTS AND ESPECIALLY WITH [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN ACTUALLY. >> ACTUALLY, I AM SHOCKED AT THE SUCCESS WE'RE HAVING WITH THESE COMPANIES THAT WANT TO COME HERE FOR COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS, I MEAN, GOT TO THANK THE PORT FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO COME HERE BUT I TELL YOU WHAT AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT'S LISTENING, THAT AIRPORT RECEIVES NO TAX ALLOWANCE. IT IS JUST LIKE OUR MARITIME PORT, IT EATS WHAT IT KILLS. >> THAT'S WHY WE NEED DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE OUT THERE TO KEEP FACILITATING CUSTOMS OUT THERE. I HAD A GREAT MEETING A YEAR-AND-A-HALF, TWO YEARS AGO WITH OUR CUSTOMS AGENTS DOWN HERE, THEY SAID, ONCE WE GET THE TERMINAL BUILT AND FULLY STAFFED BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T OFF, THEY HAVE OFFICES THERE NOW THEY HAVE AGENTS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THE TERMINAL, THEY COULD POSSIBLY GET US CUSTOMS OUT THERE, WE NEED THAT. >> THEY'RE WORKING OUT THERE NOW IF YOU KNOW THE TARMAC WORK, EVERYTHING'S GOING ON. LOOKS REAL GOOD. >> WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP THAT OUT AND THEN [INAUDIBLE] YOU BROUGHT THIS UP TOO BUT WE NEED BETTER COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY, THE BART BOARD, THE [INAUDIBLE] BOARD. WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, IT BENEFITS ALL OF US. THAT'S MY GOALS. >> THANK YOU JOSH. I APPRECIATE IT. SHARON. >> AS I SIT HERE AND LISTEN, I LIKE FOR DISTRICT 1 TO BE MORE THAN A THIRD FAIR BECAUSE WE KNOW BALL STREET IS THAT ALREADY, AND AS WE BEGIN TO DEVELOP ONE IMPORTANT THING IS WE'RE STILL MISSING THE LIGHTS WE HAD AN ARM LAST YEAR AND THEY WERE COMING IN, THEY'RE NOT THERE YET. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY BLIGHTED AND IT'S DARK. NUMBER 2 WOULD BE REHAB. BUT LOOKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, THEY'RE COMING IN WITH HOUSES THAT ARE ON THE STILTS BUT IT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NEED TO LOOK AT MAYBE LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO OWN OWNERSHIP THERE AND TRYING TO REHAB IT AWAY AND GO AT BLOCK BY BLOCK IN A REHAB. HOPEFULLY, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT, THINK ABOUT IT AT LEAST START THINKING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. YES, THE NORTH SIDE OF BROADWAY IS A PLACE THAT WOULD NEED A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THAT RAILROAD PROPERTY THAT SITS TO THE NORTH OF SANDPIPER COVE, MY DREAM IS TO HAVE A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD THERE WITH THE WALKING TRACK WHERE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN GET OUT AND WALK BECAUSE HEALTH IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND IT IS IMPORTANT WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY. RAILROAD PROPERTY, I DON T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO FIND OUT [LAUGHTER] IF THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE WAVES ARE FOUR FEET HIGH, IT'S CAUSING ROADS AND ALL OF THAT TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE SANDPIPER COVE ADDITION. >> TO EITHER BUILD A WALL ROOM, KEEP THE RODENTS OUT. >> I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT ONE BUT AS WE DEVELOP ECONOMICALLY AND IT'S MOVING TOWARDS THE WEST, THE DOWNTOWN. WE FORESEE HISTORY, JAZZ THINGS THAT WERE FOREMOST IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE WHAT YOU DESCRIBED EARLIER. WE'D LIKE FOR THAT DISTRICT TO BE PART OF THE TOURIST, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO TOWN THEY NEED TO GO ALL OVER GALVESTON, NOT JUST IN CERTAIN AREAS. I SEE THE POTENTIAL OF US REALLY DOING SOME STRONG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THERE AND EVEN I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THE TERMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN THERE BEFORE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING IN THAT AREA AND TO SPUR THAT DEVELOPMENT THERE. MY LAST WAS NOT REALLY A LESS BUT TO ENHANCE THE DISTRICT BY GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED AND GETTING THEM ON BOARD AS WELL. I MEAN, IT'S TOUGH WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME WHO APPLY FOR BOARDS AND THEY DON'T GET THEM. THEIR QUALIFICATIONS ARE THERE BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY JUST DON'T GET THERE AND I KNOW THAT'S A POLITICAL MOVE. BUT THE LAST ONE WOULD BE CDBG FUNDS. HOW CAN WE TAKE THOSE FUNDS MORE AND USE THEM TO AGAIN, ENHANCE THE DISTRICT ECONOMICALLY TO PROVIDE MORE PROGRAMS FOR KIDS, FOR ADULTS, [01:00:07] THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT POP-UP SHOPS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT WE NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN PUSH THOSE CDBG FUNDS MORE INTO THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S ABOUT IT RIGHT THERE. >> IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING AT SANDPIPER COVE THOUGH AND THE REHAB. >> AT THE WALL THOUGH. >> AT THE WALL IS A LITTLE MUCH [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT THERE IS A LOT GOING ON. >> THAT'S NOT GET BRIGHT AND STARK ON STANDBY BECAUSE. >> THE REMODELED UNITS LOOK GREAT. THE TENANTS OR RESIDENTS THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THEM. >> I'M GETTING INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE REMODELED UNIT. NOT ONLY ARE THEY'RE ECSTATIC ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE STRUCTURE THEY'RE LIVING IN BUT THEY'RE ALSO MADE VERY POSITIVE COMMENTS TO ME ABOUT THE SECURITY AND HOW THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO ENFORCE THE RULES AND CONTROL THINGS OVER THERE AND I HAVEN'T BEEN DIRECTLY IN TOUCH WITH THAT SINCE THEY STARTED TO REMODELING BUT I AM GETTING POSITIVE COMMENTS. >> WELL, I WENT WITH THE FIRST GROUP WHO MOVED OUT. I WAS THERE FOR THAT MEETING IN THAT SAME GROUP THAT RETURNED TO THE NEW YEAR [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE TRYING TO BE PART OF THAT AS REMODELING PROCESSES TAKES PLACE. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> COUNCILMAN BOUVIER. >> FOR MY DISTRICT, LOOKING FORWARD SINCE I'VE BEEN RIDING MY BIKE AROUND, IT'S A LOT BETTER TO SEE THE STREETS THAN IT IS IF YOU'RE IN YOUR CAR. DIDN'T REALIZE HOW BAD OUR STREETS WERE. WE HAVE SOME PRETTY BAD STREETS AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S NOT MY AREA BUT IF YOU COME UP THROUGH ALL IN THOSE AREAS AROUND THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVES, BUMPS, THERE'S ONE STREET I THINK HAS MAYBE A GENERAL INTERSECTION, PROBABLY 150 PATCHES ON IT. I CAN TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT FOR YOU BUT THERE ARE STREETS. THE OTHER THING WOULD BE THE START OF THAT PUMP STATION AT THE VALUE SHORES TO GET THE DRAINAGE. GOING ON, I KNOW IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THAT AREA BUT IT'S FOR THE OTHER AREAS [NOISE] AROUND BUT YOU DEFINITELY HAVE THAT GOING AND UNDERWAY. >> WE HIT 30 PERCENT DESIGN THIS WEEK, DIDN'T WE? >> YESTERDAY. >> NICE I WISH FOR A SMOOTH CONSTRUCTION FUND ON 61ST WITH LESS INTERRUPTIONS. >> [INAUDIBLE] NOT WISH [LAUGHTER] COOPERATION. THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO, MOVING TOWARDS THE NO NEW REVENUE. I THINK THAT'S A BIG GOAL WITHIN THIS YEAR OR THE NEXT YEAR. JUNETEENTH, I THINK REALLY WE NEED TO BE THE HOME OF JUNETEENTH. YOU LOOK AT OTHER PLACES LIKE BUFFALO, NEW YORK. THEY'VE BEEN CELEBRATING JUNETEENTH SINCE THE '70S AND THEIR CELEBRATION IS OVER A WEEK LONG. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE CELEBRATION. THEY'RE THE FURTHEST AWAY FROM GALVESTON. I'D LIKE TO SEE US FOCUS ON GIVING THE SUPPORT TO THE JUNETEENTH. ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE UPGRADES TO SEE WOLF PARK, WHAT THEY WOULD BE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START TO PELICAN ISLAND IF WE COULD REALLY DEVELOP THAT CIVIL PARK INTO A BETTER ATTRACTION. WE COULD ALSO LOOK INTO THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS OUT THERE. MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE REST OF THE LAND BUT PUTTING A PUMP STATION OUT THERE TO WHERE WE COULD DROP OR A DUMP STATION WHERE WE COULD DROP AND THEN PICK IT UP AS WE GO. BUT THEN ALSO START LOOKING AT MAYBE AN ANAEROBIC PACKAGE THAT CAN BE EXPANDED MEANWHILE, THAT WOULD HELP. EDUCATION ON FENTANYL AT ALL LEVELS. I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MY CHILDREN THE OTHER DAY ABOUT FENTANYL. THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. NONE. I SAID, DO THEY GO OVER IT IN SCHOOL? NOW, IF I ASKED THE TEACHERS, THE TEACHERS SAY YES, SO THE KIDS AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION. BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO GET THEM TO PAY ATTENTION. [01:05:01] ALSO THE KNOWLEDGE OF NARCAN. I TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT NARCAN ALL THE TIME. NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT THIS DRUG IS. THE ACCESSIBILITY OF NARCAN. THEY SAY THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO BUY OVER THE COUNTER AND YOU COULD BUY IT AT WALGREENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I'M NOT FOR SURE THAT'S AVAILABLE. THEN ALSO THE TRAINING OF NARCAN. THAT ROUNDS ME OUT. >> VERY GOOD. MIKE JUST A PASSING THOUGHT. COUNCIL WOMAN LEWIS WOULD BE MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE FIVE O'CLOCK MEETING ABOUT THE JUNETEENTH LIONS. SHE AND I BEEN WORKING WITH HER FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW IN THIS JUNETEENTH SITUATION HERE AND COUNSEL WOMAN LEWIS HAS PUT A LOT OF EFFORT OUT THERE AND SHE'LL BE EXPANDING ON. >> OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH PORT OF HOUSTON ARE FAVORABLE FORESEEABLE FARM. >> GOOD. >> YEAH. >> REALLY, THAT WAS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION. VERY GOOD. >> WE ALL MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE THIS COULD >> I WAS JUST SAYING LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST. [LAUGHTER] >> NOW WE HAVE 20 MINUTES FOR THIS. [LAUGHTER] >> LET ME GET MY BOOK OUT, NO. MY GOALS ARE ALWAYS CONSISTENT AND ALWAYS MOVING FORWARD. I WANT EVERYTHING FOR DISTRICTS [LAUGHTER] THAT MAKES IT EASY. BUT INFRASTRUCTURE, SO STARTING. THANK YOU, DAVID FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THE FIRST PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED IS THE BEACH. >> WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? [LAUGHTER] >> SOMETHING THAT I'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT BEFORE EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN MY DREAMS EVERY NIGHT. BUT THE BEACH. >> BUT THEY MAKES CRISP FEEL GOOD. [LAUGHTER] >> ANYWAY, SO THE BEACHES ARE DENIABLY AND I'M GLAD THE CITY HAS BEEN PROACTIVE WITH HIRING NOW SOMEONE FROM A COASTAL ENGINEERING FIRM AND BEING MORE ASSERTIVE AND EVERYONE BEING 100 PERCENT BEHIND THE NECESSITY OF GETTING THE ENTIRE WEST END BEACH NOURISHED. THAT IS SO KEY WHEN WE HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN JEOPARDY RIGHT NOW OF COLLAPSING, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH A GLO. WE HAVE ABOUT $300 MILLION OF DEVELOPMENT, 400 MILLION IF YOU CONSIDER WHAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT AS WELL. THAT'S ON HOLD DUE TO OUR BEACH ACCESS PLAN. WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY AND ASSERTIVELY, POSITIVELY WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. WE SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS RECTIFIED SHORTLY. THAT'S TOP OF MY GOAL LIST BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE CAN GET OUR PROPERTY TAXES DOWN. DEALING WITH A 3.5 TAX GAP, WHICH WE ALL WANT TO GET TO KNOWING THAT REVENUE RATE YOU HAVE TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT TO BALANCE THAT. THAT'S WHAT HELPS KEEP IT DOWN. WHEN WE HAVE THIS STUFF SITTING THERE AND YET IT'S ON HOLD BECAUSE OF ISSUES IN THE COASTAL WORLD. WE NEED TO FIX THAT AND WE NEED TO FIX THEM FAST. WE ARE DOING THAT. WE ARE DEFINITELY WORKING ON THE SORORITY AND GO FOR THE GETTING THE NOURISHMENT ONTO THE BEACH, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH SOME FORTIFIED TUNE TO GET TO OR SOMETHING OF THAT SUCH. >> IF ONLY WE COULD TRY GEO TUBES AND THEY WORKED BEFORE. >> WAIT, THEY DID. [OVERLAPPING] >> YEAH, WE HAVE ONE RIGHT HERE. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU DO HAVE EXAMPLES LIKE WE DO. >> WE HAVE TWO IN PLACE, ONE AT THE HALL OF FAR WEST HOLIDAY AND TIMESHARE AND ONE BEACH SIDE VILLAGE. BUT THEY'VE BEEN INTACT SINCE BEFORE. >> THE WEATHER OF 2020 JUST FINE. >> YEAH. THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE HOLIDAY INN BECAUSE ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU GET TO CAHUILLA, THAT BEACH IS CREATING. CAHUILLAS HAD PAID AND PUT INTO VERY HUGE SAND DUNES, WELL VEGETATIVE, WELL MATURE. YOU HAD THE HOLIDAY IN TIMESHARE HERE. THEY HAVE THEIR FORTIFIED DOOM. AFTER LAURA BETA DELTA, THIS WAS GONE. THAT WAS SITTING THERE LIKE NOTHING EVER HAPPENED. THEY DIDN'T UNCOVER. THEY DIDN'T ORDER ONES THAT BEACH SIDE VILLAGE. WE HAVE PROVED THAT THEY WORK, [01:10:02] SO WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE DLO ON THAT. BUT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T HAVE SEWER IN A LOT OF THE WEST END. WE'RE STILL ON SEPTIC SYSTEMS. WHEN YOU THINK OF HURRICANES AND PLEASE GOD, DON'T LET US HAVE ONE UNTIL WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE. EVERY TIME THE ISLAND WASHES UP THE SODA THOSE SEPTIC TANKS, IT'S SODAS ALL THAT CRAP GO INTO THE WATER LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS ON MY GOAL. WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLIC UTILITIES, BOTH GAS AND ELECTRIC, BUT CONTINUING THE WORK THAT I'VE BEEN DOING WITH BOTH THOSE COMPANIES WHICH WE HAVE BEEN SEEING SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES FROM IT, WE ARE ON A PATH AND I'M WORKING CLOSELY WITH CENTER POINT TO SEE, WE HAVE POLES IN MY DISTRICT THAT ARE 50 YEARS OLD, IF NOT OLDER. GETTING FIBERGLASS POLES PUT IN PLACE AND THEY ARE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THOSE POLES ARE LANDMARKED. [LAUGHTER] >> LET'S LOOK AT IT PRETTY WELL, THEY ARE LANDMARKED, THEY'RE HISTORICALLY MARKED. BUT GETTING FIBERGLASS POLES AND WHATNOT INTO PLACE AND JUST HARDENING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. >> EVEN IF THEY WOULD JUST TRY IT, JUST TRY OUT. >> EITHER USE IT. THERE ARE ACTUALLY THERE'S THAT COMPANY COMING IN THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING LAND THAT'S JUST FOR THE FIBERGLASS POLES. THEY'RE STILL INTO THAT CENTER POINT WITHOUT BEING SOMEONE OVER. BUT I DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO DOES HELP ME. IT MAKES YOU FEEL LESS FRUSTRATED WHEN YOU'RE BANGING YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL. BUT THAT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER. MY PROJECT OF HAVING THE GAS COMPANY ROLE GAS OUT THE ISLAND BECAUSE UNLIKE YOUR DISTRICTS, WHEN THE ELECTRICITY GOES OUT, MY PEOPLE HAVE NO HEAT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ELECTRIC. IF WE CAN GET GAS LINES FROM PEOPLE LIKE GLASS GENERATORS, THEY CAN HAVE GAS HEAT, SO THAT WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. THEN OF COURSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND I'M HAPPY I WAS ABLE TO ACHIEVE THIS, THIS YEAR. THAT WHEN WE DO THE ROAD STUDIES AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CARE OF ROADS, IT IS NOW JUST SIMPLY IN THE ORDER OF THE ROADS THAT ARE IN NEED. PREVIOUSLY, THE BUDGET WOULD BE SPLIT SIX WAYS EQUALLY, WHICH WHEN YOU COVER 20 MILE OF THE ISLAND, THAT WASN'T QUITE A FAIR APPROACH. ALL THE ROADS WON'T BE DONE IN ORDER, WHICH WILL BENEFIT BOTH YOU AND I. BUT WHAT AM I OTHER GOALS WOULD WHEN IT COME TO ROADS AND DRAINAGE? I KNOW BRANDON'S GOT TO GIVE US AN UPDATE. I THINK WHEN WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS SUCH AS ON THE MANGER, ON THE DRAINAGE PLAN, OR ON ROADS, OR ON ANY SUBJECT THAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE ISLAND. IT'S NOT FAIR TO MY DISTRICT OR JOHN'S DISTRICT TO HAVE A MEETING ONLY AT THE 30TH STREET PUMP STATION. THE ONE FOR THE MAJOR DRAINAGE PLAN WAS DURING THE HOLIDAYS AND NOT THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM DRIVING OVER THE CAUSEWAY OR ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND. BUT THAT'S ASKING A LOT FOR PEOPLE WHEN WE COULD HAVE MEETINGS CENTRALLY. HOPEFULLY I'LL BE HEARING THE REST OF THE GOOD NEWS FROM BRANDON TODAY THAT WE WILL BE HAVING THAT SECOND MEETING SOMEWHERE IN OUR DISTRICTS SO THAT PEOPLE BECAUSE I KNOW I GOT. I WAS IT AND DATE IT BY PHONE CALLS OF PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T MAKE THAT MEETING IN A REALLY ISN'T FAIR TO OUR CITIZENS. WE CONTINUE TO JUST MOVE THINGS FORWARD IN DISTRICT 6, AND IT IS GOOD TO BE THE GREATEST DISTRICT ON THE ISLAND OR AS WE ALL LIKE TO THINK SO. BUT I'M HAPPY THAT MY PEOPLE ARE SO PROACTIVE, THAT THEY SIT ON A LOT OF COMMITTEES, EVERYONE IS VERY CONCERNED. I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE FOR THEM AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT THE CITY HAS WORKED CLOSELY. I AGREE WE DO NEED TO ENHANCE OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE OTHER BOARDS THAT ARE OUT THERE. [01:15:01] BUT I ALSO AGREE THE CITY NEEDS TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN THE COASTAL ARENA AND ASSUME SOME OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES. >> THANK YOU. >> DID I FORGET ANYTHING? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> NO, I DON'T THINK SO [OVERLAPPING]. >> I HAD ANOTHER 10 OTHER PAGES. [LAUGHTER]. >> IRONICALLY, NONE OF THAT WAS A SURPRISE. I DON'T KNOW. [LAUGHTER] COUNCIL THIS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY VALUABLE AS FIRST-TIME COUNCIL REALLY HAS SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT THE FUTURE AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE THIS ISLAND TO BECOME. >> ACTUALLY IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD BECAUSE MOST OF THIS IS ALREADY [OVERLAPPING]. >> WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, BRIAN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I SAW YOU TAKING NOTES. IF YOU CAN PUT TOGETHER PER COUNCIL MEMBER, ALL OF OUR SUGGESTIONS AND PUT THAT IN WRITING. COULD YOU SEND THAT TO THE COUNCIL? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I'D LIKE TO DO THAT AND [OVERLAPPING]. >> COULD YOU GIVE US A DATE OF COMPLETION, PLEASE? >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] >> MY JOURNAL AT HOME, THAT'S TITLED POWERBALL DREAMS AND THAT'S IN EITHER SECTION OF GALVESTON I HAVE. >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER]. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> I'M JUST TELLING YOU IF I HIT PARABEL, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT GET THE SUMMARY. [LAUGHTER] >> I UNDERSTAND. BUT IF YOU COULD SEND THAT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BRIAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE WE STAND WITH MAYBE A STATUS REPORT ON THESE PROJECTS, AND WHERE WE GO. I WANT TO CHECK OFF EACH ONE OF THEM AND MAKE SURE WE VISIT EACH ONE OF THEM AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE YEAR ON THAT. >> YOU BET. >> ONLY OTHER THING I'D MENTIONED IS MARIE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE WITH BRIAN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR DISTRICT 6 DOWN ON THIS LIST. >> THERE'S NOTHING? >> I'M JUST KIDDING. >> I'M HERE FROM MORISO AND FREQUENTLY IT'S JUST HARD TO KEEP UP. [LAUGHTER] >> VERY GOOD. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3C, PLEASE, JANELLE. [3.C. Discussion Of Sand Placement Policy (Robb/Brown - 15 Min)] >> THREE C, DISCUSSION OF SAND PLACEMENT POLICY. >> COUNCIL WOMAN ROB BROUGHT THIS TOPIC TO ME. IT'S PROBABLY THREE MONTHS AGO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS ITS NOW ON THE AGENDA. I'M GOING TO LET HER INTRODUCE THAT, MARIE. >> OKAY. I GUESS ONE, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT MY DISTRICT NEEDS SAND. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE THREE BUILDINGS, [NOISE] IF WE HAVE A STORM THIS YEAR COULD ACTUALLY COLLAPSE, LIKE IN MIAMI. WE HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY. WELL, IN PURSUE OF WHATEVER SAND PROJECTS ARE OUT THERE TOGETHER WITH THE CITY, WE HAD A SITUATION WITH A CAP 204 PROJECT THAT WE WERE PURSUING. WE WERE ACTUALLY COMPETING WITH THE PARK BOARD. ONE, WE SHOULDN'T BE COMPETING FOR SAND, AND TWO, WE SHOULD BE COMPETING FOR SAND. WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. [NOISE] THANK YOU DAWN BUCKINGHAM FOR COMING DOWN TO MEET WITH US. THEN THIS LETTER CAME TO LIFE YESTERDAY AS WELL, AND IT WAS SENT OUT TO EVERYONE IN COUNCIL. I DIDN'T SEE THIS TILL YESTERDAY EITHER. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT IT IS IT STATES THAT THE GLO HAS ADVISED THE PARK BOARD TO PUT APPLICATIONS IN FOR THE CITY, TO PUT APPLICATIONS IN REFERENCING THEIR HEAD OF COASTAL DAVID GREEN WHO WAS SITTING RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE SITTING. HE HAD NEVER SEEN THIS LETTER EITHER NOR HAD HE ADVISED THE PARK BOARD. BECAUSE JUST TO EXPLAIN TO YOU ALL, AND YOU MAY KNOW OR YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE A KEPRA GRANT IT'S PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COASTAL AREAS AND EVEN NON COASTAL PROJECTS BECAUSE IT COULD BE A MERGE PUT IN APPLICATIONS FOR A POT OF MONEY. IN THIS IT SAYS THE PARK BOARD PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION, THE CITY WILL PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION, AND WHOEVER WINS WILL GET THE SAND AND THE [NOISE] OTHER WILL WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION. WELL, ONE, THE GLO HAD A ISSUE WITH THAT AND TWO, I VERY MUCH HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY BE IN A MORE PROACTIVE SPOT, TO ONE MAKE SURE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED WITH CAP 204 THIS YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE ON A SEAT WHERE YOU HAVE TO ANSWER TO PEOPLE WE ARE ALL LIKELY TO REPRESENT THERE. IMAGINE THE PEOPLE WHO MAY LOSE THEIR HOME IN THE NEXT STORM, [01:20:06] WHEN THEY SEE MORE SAND GOING ON THE SEAWALL AND THEY CALL ME UP. IT'S LIKE WHY? THE SEAWALL IS ALREADY A PROTECTION. I MIGHT LOSE MY HOUSE, BUT THEY'RE PUTTING MORE SAND ON THE SEAWALL. NOT THAT I'M SAYING SAND SHOULDN'T BE PUT ON THE SEAWALL, BUT SAND SHOULD BE PLACED IN THE AREAS OF GREATEST NEED. >> BELIEVE IT OR NOT SAND IS A LIMITED RESOURCE. >> SAND IS A LIMITED RESOURCE AND THAT PRESENTS THE OTHER PROBLEM, IS WHEN EACH ENTITY IS PUTTING IN APPLICATIONS, THERE'S ONLY A XYZ AMOUNT OF SAND AVAILABLE. WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S THREE APPROVED SANDS SOURCES. THERE IS A LIMITED AMOUNT. YES, YOU COULD DO A DREDGE PROJECT BUT THAT TAKES A LOT LONGER. GALVESTON IS KNOWN AS A SAND STARVED AREA. I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS IN MY GOALS, IN MY PERFECT WORLD HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THIS IS, WE'D HAVE A BACKPASS SYSTEM FROM THE SUMMER WHERE YOU PASS. WE WOULD HAVE INSIDE OUR HARDEN DUNES OF SOME SORT A PIPE SO THAT, WE KNOW IT ALL GOES WEST, WE WOULD CONSTANTLY BE DREDGING THAT BACK AND WE CAN NOURISH PLACES AS THEY NEED IT. BUT THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW. >> IF I COULD INTERJECT, MARIE, SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS CLARIFIED JUST A BIT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT METHOD THAT WE APPROVE IN PROJECTS. BRIAN, GUIDE ME ON THIS THROUGH THE CITY'S THING. THE BMAC COMMITTEE LOOKS AT THESE ISSUES AT THE PARK BOARD. THE PARK BOARD BRINGS OVER PROJECTS FOR SAND NOURISHMENT TO THE IDC, AND THE IDC THEN WEIGHS IN ON THOSE AND BRINGS THOSE TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THAT'S BASICALLY THE FLOW THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING IS, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THAT THE CITY WOULD TAKE A MORE PROACTIVE ROLE IN STRUCTURING AND PRIORITIZING THOSE PROJECTS. LET'S TALK ABOUT JUST QUICKLY THE SYSTEM AND THE PROCESS, HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN. >> CAN I INTERJECT [OVERLAPPING] WHAT THE IDC IS PROVIDING IS MATCHING FUNDS. >> WELL, CORRECT. BUT [OVERLAPPING]. >> IT ISN'T BMAC THAT PICKS A PROBLEM INTO PROJECTS. IT'S MORE THE STAFF OF THE PARK BOARD. >> OKAY. >> THAT PICK THAT PROJECT REALLY. BMAC OVERSEAS GENERAL [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE I SAT ON BMAC. >> BUT RIGHT NOW THESE SAND PROJECTS THEY COME FROM THE PARK BOARD. THE PARK BOARD MANAGES THE LOGISTICS OF THEM AND THEN OR IDC AND COUNCIL APPROVES THOSE AND PUTS UP MATCHING FUNDS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. HOW DO WE ENVISION THIS CHANGING? >> I THINK IF I'M HEARING COUNCIL MEMBER ROB CORRECTLY, WHAT SHE IS DESIRING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IS THAT THE CITY SETS THE PRIORITIES FOR THE SAND. >> WE WOULD START PUTTING IN A KEPRA APPLICATIONS AND PURSUING THE SOURCES ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'VE ENHANCED OUR DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. >> YOU KNOW [INAUDIBLE] ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROB TOUCHED ON THAT RANG TRUE WITH ME WHEN WE MET WITH THE LAND COMMISSIONER, AS MUCH AS IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY AND WE HAVE THE MATCHING FUNDS, SO IT MEANS THAT WE HAVE SOME SAY. SO IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THE MONEY AT THIS POINT, IT'S ABOUT THE SAND AND FINDING BEACH QUALITY SAND. I THINK A WORST SCENARIO IS WE BOTH GET APPROVED AND THEY GET PRIORITIZED DIFFERENTLY AND WE GET APPROVED. THEY HAD THE MONEY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAND. THAT BECOMES A BIGGER CONCERN, AT LEAST FROM TALKING TO THE GLO STAFF YESTERDAY, THAN EVEN THE DOLLAR'S. I HATE TO SAY THAT MONEY COMES EASY. IT DOESN'T COME EASY FOR THESE PROJECTS, BUT IT COMES EASIER THAN THE SAND. [LAUGHTER] I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS THOUGH. DOES THE PARK BOARD WORK WITH THE CITY ON THIS OR DOES THE CITY ORIGINATE? HAS THIS COME THROUGH OUR COASTAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT? >> FOR A SHORT TIME BRANDON WAS ON THE VMAC COMMITTEE OVER THERE AND I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME PARTICIPATION. BUT NO, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PRIORITIES ARE SET BY THE PARK BOARD AT THIS TIME AND THAT WAS THE DIRECTION COUNCIL CHOSE TO GO WITH AT THAT TIME. >> CORRECT. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS? WALK ME THROUGH THIS. [01:25:02] >> WITH OUR NEW COASTAL DIVISION MANAGER I WOULD THINK THAT PROBABLY THE BEST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE A JOINT DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PRIORITIES BUT I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO SET THE PRIORITIES. I MEAN, IT'S OUR BEACHES AND I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO SET THOSE PRIORITIES. ONCE WE SET THE PRIORITIES, IF THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US ON LEVELING THEM OUT AND TRYING TO GET ALL THE FUNDING FOR IT TO GET THEM ALL DONE, THAT'S GREAT. BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY COUNCIL NEEDS TO SET THAT PRIORITY AS PART OF YOUR GOALS AS TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH BEACH RE-NOURISHMENT. WE DON'T DELEGATE OUT WHERE ROADS GO OR WHERE DRAINAGE GOES TO ANYBODY ELSE. I THINK BEACHES ARE PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO SET THAT DIRECTION. >> OKAY. NEXT DISCUSSION ON THIS [INAUDIBLE] YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS? >> NO. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT ABOUT IDC AND ITS ROLE. BUT I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION WHEN YOU SAY HE'S GONE TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL APPROVES IT. WHAT EXACTLY IS OUR ROLE IN APPROVING? >> RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST GRATIFYING THE IDC DECISION. >> THAT'S THE LIMITER. WE'RE NOT DECIDING WHERE THIS THING GOES. WE'RE NOT DECIDING. WE'RE NOT APPROVING. >> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S CURRENTLY THE WAY ITS HAPPENING. >> IN SOME FASHION WE COULD DENY THE MAGIC WANDS. >> WE'RE STILL NOT HAVING ANY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] >> SURE. >> [OVERLAPPING] YEAH, I THINK WHAT BRIAN SAYS IS RIGHT. I MEAN, CITY BEACHES, WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE THE SAND GOES AND PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS. >> YES. >> IF COUNCIL DECIDES, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO SUNNY BEACH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SANDING THE BAYS AND THIS, AND THAT, WE SET THOSE PRIORITIES, THEN I THINK IT'S GREAT TO WORK WITH THE PARK BOARD. GO FOR THAT. HEY, YOU GUYS GO AFTER THIS. WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER THIS. YOU HANDLE THIS, YOU HANDLE THAT. THAT'S PARTNERSHIP. >> [INAUDIBLE] BY THE CITY. >> BUT YEAH, I THINK THE OVERALL OVERARCHING KIND OF LIKE WE JUST DID WITH OUR GOALS, THE OVERARCHING PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE SET HERE BECAUSE IT'S THE CITIZEN'S BEACH AND YOU GUYS REPRESENT THE CITIZENS. YOU ALL SET THE PRIORITIES AND THEN WE'LL GO TO TOWN WORKING WITH THE PARK BOARD TO GET IT DONE. >> THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE WHAT THIS LETTER CONTEMPLATES. >> NO. SAY THAT AGAIN. >> THAT DOES NOT APPEAR, WHAT BRIAN JUST DESCRIBED IS NOT WHAT THIS LETTER APPEARS TO CONTEMPLATE. THIS LETTER FROM THE PARK BOARD SAYING WILL COMPETE AND ESSENTIALLY AS WELL. >> I READ THE LETTER DIFFERENTLY. >> I READ IT DIFFERENTLY TOO. >> YEAH. I DIDN'T READ WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> I AND MY HUSBAND READ IT BY HIMSELF TOO AND HE SAW IT THE SAME WAY I SAW IT HE SAW IT, AND THE GLO SAW IT. >> THE GLO WASN'T SURE ON THAT. BUT GO AHEAD. >> I'LL JUST SAY I MEAN, I READ IT DIFFERENTLY BUT THEN I SAW YOU LAST TIME AND THEN YOU SHINED A DIFFERENT LIGHT ON IT FOR ME. THE WAY I READ THAT LETTER WAS THAT, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO THROW AS MUCH INTO THESE GRANTS AS POSSIBLE TO GET A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS MONEY. THAT'S HOW I READ IT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REAL INTENT OF THE LETTER WAS. IF IT WAS THE WAY YOU READ IT OR THE WAY I READ IT. [OVERLAPPING] IT COULD BE. >> BUT I CAN TELL YOU HOW THE GRANT PROCESS WORKS. IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO COMPETE FOR. YOU DON'T WANT TWO APPLICATIONS IN FOR THE SAME PROJECT. >> [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS WELL ENOUGH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> BUT NO, I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING. WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS PAST YEAR WITH THE CAP 204 PROJECT, IT WAS A DIRECT COMPETITION. IT WASN'T WE'LL HELP YOU GET THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING TO FALL. IT BECAME A COMPETITION. LET THE BEST FIRM WIN, AND THE BEST MAN IS OUR CONSTITUENTS. THAT'S WHAT I'M HIRED TO DO AND PAID SO MUCH, IS TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. I MEAN, WE WERE GIVEN GOALS BY THE CORE KERNEL AND BY THE GLO, WE NEEDED TO GET LETTERS OF NON OBJECTION. WE ACHIEVED ALL THAT. I MEAN, IT WAS A COMPETITION AND IT SHOULD NEVER BE THAT WAY. >> MY YEARS OF CATHOLIC SCHOOL TELL ME IT'S MORE LIKE A CHURCH DRAWING AND LESS LIKE A LOTTERY. IT'S MORE ABOUT GETTING DRAWN OUT FIRST VERSUS IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE BUY LOTTERY TICKETS, YOUR ODDS ARE EQUALLY AS BAD. BUT WITH THE CHURCH DRAW, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WIN AND THAT'S HOW IT COMES OUT. THAT'S HOW THIS WORKS. WE'RE COMPETING IN ESSENCE. YOU MAY GET KNOCKED OUT. >> I'M NOT SURE WE'RE COMPETING AS MUCH AS WE THINK WE ARE. >> GOING TO [INAUDIBLE] BOARD WE WERE. >> DONE. >> MAYBE SOME THOUGHT TO MAKING THESE GRANT APPLICATIONS JOINTLY WITH THE PARK BOARD? >> YOU MEAN TO THE IDC? >> NO, THE [INAUDIBLE] PEOPLE, WHEREVER WE SEE. >> WELL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND [01:30:03] I THINK COUNCIL WOMAN ROB BRINGS UP AN EXCELLENT POINT HERE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS LIKE FOR COUNCIL WOMAN ROB, SINCE THIS IS YOUR SUBJECT, TO GIVE THE STAFF, LET'S PUT TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN WRITING ON THIS AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE IT SITTING DOWN AND LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH THE PARK BOARD IN SOME WAY. >> RIGHT. THE POINT OF THIS, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THE PARK BOARD WOULDN'T STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAPRA BUT IT WON'T BE THE COUNCIL, THE ELECTED BODY ADVISING, THESE ARE THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE WANT COVERED. THESE ARE THE CRITICAL NEED AREA. I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THEY ARE BETTER THAN WE ARE. >> MARY IS EXACTLY RIGHT. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR WHEN THE PARK BOARD WAS HERE TALKING TO YOU GUYS IS GUYS TELL US WHAT YOU WANT. TELL US WHAT YOU WANT. I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE WE JUST NEED TO TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT. THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT THIS. LET THEM DO THEIR JOB BUT THEY NEED TO HAVE PRIORITY SET FOR THEM. THAT'S ALL THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROB WANTS TO DO. >> WELL, WE NEED TO SET THE DIALOGUE. WE NEED TO SET THAT DIALOGUE UP WITH THE PARK BOARD AND LOOK AT THIS, WE PUT TOGETHER A PLAN IN WRITING SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND THE COUNCIL CAN LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ROB WILL WORK WITH DON AND HAVE IT WORKED OUT. >> OKAY. >> I'M WRITING THIS SECTION [INAUDIBLE] FOR THIS. >> OKAY. >> I HAVE A DRAFT AND I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT YEAH, WE CAN GET TOGETHER. >> OKAY. THAT'S GREAT, AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE PARK BOARD ON THIS AND GET THEIR INPUT ON THIS. SECOND OF ALL ON THIS, IN THE PROCESS PERSONALLY, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT WHEN THESE PROJECTS COME TO COUNCIL AND I THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE DIRECTING THESE. BUT WHEN THEY COME TO COUNCIL THAT WE GET SUGGESTIONS FROM YOU, I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE, HEY, WE GOT X AMOUNT OF MONEY, LET'S SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO. >> WELL, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. >> IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. >> WISH IT DID. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] BUT WE NEED RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR COASTAL RESOURCE AREA, FROM STAFF WORKING WITH POSSIBLY COUNCIL WOMAN ROB. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE RECOMMENDATIONS COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL SO US CAN CONSIDER THOSE. I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY MAKE THIS PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT. >> YEAH, BUT [INAUDIBLE], YOU DO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS BECAUSE THE MONEY IS DRIVEN BY THE APPLICATION. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> THAT WOULD MAYBE HAPPEN PRIOR, I DON'T KNOW. IN SOME CASES LIKE RIGHT NOW THEY WANT AN EMERGENCY APPLICATION FOR THE CONDOS TOMORROW. THEY'RE LIKE, GET US THAT APPLICATION. IN SOME CASES THERE MAY NOT BE TIME BUT WE CAN HANDLE THAT IN HOWEVER WE WRITE IT. >> WE'LL HAVE EXCEPTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE A WRITTEN PROCESS ON THIS. IT'D BE GOOD. >> YES, [INAUDIBLE] . >> WHO ON THE CITY SIDE PUT THE APPLICATION IN FOR THE SAND BY THE CONDOS? >> THE SAND APPLICATION BY THE CONDOS IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE GENERAL LANDOWNERS. >> OKAY, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHEN THAT WAS GOING IN, WAS THERE ANY COMMUNICATION OF WHAT THE PARK BOARD WAS DOING AT THE TIME? >> THEIR NUMBER ONE APPLICATION WAS JUST DISCUSSED YESTERDAY. >> OKAY. >> THERE IS NO APPLICATION THAT HAS GONE IN. >> I'M CONCERNED WITH THAT. I GUESS I'M CONFUSED THEN. THAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE WAS SOME COMPETITION BETWEEN TWO APPLICATIONS? >> THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONDO. >> OKAY. >> IT HAD TO DO WITH THE CONDOS IN AS FAR AS THEY'RE ON THE WEST END. IT WAS A CAP TO A FORWARD PROJECT. THIS HAD TO DO WITH THE CORE OF ENGINEERS. THE GLO WAS THE MATCHING SPONSOR. >> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT WAS THE GLO WORKING WITH THE CITY. >> OKAY, SO THE GLO WAS WORKING WITH THE CITY, DID THE CITY EVER HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PARK BOARD AT THE TIME? >> YEAH. THEY WERE AWARE THAT WE WERE DOING IT. >> WE'VE TALKED TO KELLY ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES AND SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH US TO TRY TO GET THE SAND OUT WHERE SHE HAS BEEN. BUT THE ISSUE BECOMES WE HAVE THESE FUTURE PROJECTS COMING. THIS IS A FUTURE PROJECT AND WE'VE GOT TO GET THE SAND MOVING, [01:35:01] AND I KNOW THE PARK BOARD HAS OTHER PRIORITIES THAT THEY'VE SET BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS DIFFERENT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS A CLEAR SET OF PRIORITIES OUT THERE THAT WHERE WE WANT THE SAND TO GO IN THIS NEXT CYCLE AND FUTURE CYCLES. [BACKGROUND] >> HOW FISCALLY ARE WE SHOOTING FOR? >> I THINK IT'S 25, ISN'T IT? >> YES. >> HAS THIS NEW ISSUE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO THE PARK BOARD SO THEY COULD PRIORITIZE THAT? >> WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE [NOISE] THE LETTER. >> OKAY, AND SO WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY PUSHBACK FROM THE PARK BOARD? >> WE GOT THE LETTER. >> WE GOT THE LETTER. >> I DON'T SEE PUSH-BACK ON THAT. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THOUGH [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOU PUT APPLICATIONS IN AND WE'LL PUT APPLICATIONS IN AND MAY THE BEST MAN WIN. THAT'S NOT THE WAY COUNCIL WORKS SO LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. >> I UNDERSTAND. BUT I INTERRUPTED LETTER AS MORE OF A LETTER OF WANTING TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS. >> YEAH. >> THAT WAS THE WAY. TIM, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. >> JUST A CLARIFICATION. ON THE THREE CONDOMINIUMS, WEST BEACH AND THE RIVIERA, THAT WAS ACTUALLY THEIR APPLICATION. >> MINUS THE CONDOS. >> THE CONDOS OUT THERE, YEAH. THEY PUT IN THEIR OWN APPLICATIONS. IT WENT THROUGH THE COASTAL RESOURCES DIVISION. FROM THE REGULATORY STANDPOINT, GLO SUPPORTED IT. BUT IT'S A TWO-PHASE PROJECT. IT WAS WHAT [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT'S SEPARATE FROM SAND THOUGH. >> YEAH, THAT'S SEPARATE FROM SAND, BUT THEY PUT SAND UNDER CONDOS [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT'S AN EMERGENCY DEAL. >> YEAH, THAT WAS EMERGENCY THING, AND WHAT WE WOULD DO GOING FORWARD IS BEYOND THAT, UPFRONT AND AROUND THAT AREA. >> THERE'S MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS [OVERLAPPING] >> YEAH, THERE ARE. >> THERE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S PROTECTIVE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE BEING DEALT WITH THE GLO THAT HAVE TO DO WITH LIKE, THEY DID GET THE APPROVAL FOR THE CONCRETE FILL UNDER THEIR BUILDINGS. BUT THERE WAS ALSO A YEAR WHERE THEY WERE PUTTING UP BASICALLY A BULKHEAD, AND WITH THE BULKHEAD AND UNISON THEY WANT US TO DO A EMERGENCY NOURISHER. BUT THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE PUT BY THE CONDO [OVERLAPPING]. >> LET'S, [OVERLAPPING] YES, JOHN. LET'S HAVE A COUPLE OF FINAL COMMENTS, JOHN, AND THEN SHARE IT. GO AHEAD. >> HOW MUCH OF THE OTHER AGENCIES PRIORITIZE THE SAND? CORE, GLO? OF COURSE, THE SEAWALL IS MANAGED BY THE CORE AND MAINTAINED BY THE CORE. >> NO, IT'S MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY. >> BY THE COUNTY? >> SEAWALL ITSELF IS. >> WOULD THEY HAVE INPUT ON THAT? DOES THE CORE HAVE INPUT ON THAT? >> THE CAP 204 IS MANAGED BY THE CORE, AND THE CORE WAS SUPPORTIVE AS LONG AS THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE PARTNERS THAT WERE INVOLVED. >> KEEP IN MIND THE CAP 204 PROJECT IS A BUDM. IT'S BENEFICIAL TO USE DREDGED MATERIAL. THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT THE CORE BASICALLY SAYS, I'M DRAGGING, WE GOT SAND, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE BEACH THAT'S FINE AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T SLOW OUR PROJECT DOWN AND COST US MORE MONEY. >> THEY DON'T CARE WHERE YOU PUT IT? >> AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T [OVERLAPPING] COST THEM MORE MONEY OR DELAY THE PROJECT. >> YEAH. >> CORRECT. >> THE CORE GAVE US THE OBJECTIVE. THE OBJECTIVE, IF YOU CAN GET LETTERS OF NON-OBJECTION FROM EACH OF THE PORTS, WITH THE BIG ELEPHANT BEING THE PORT OF HOUSTON, AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AND THAT GLO WILL COVER THE COST DIFFERENTIAL WHICH THEY COMMITTED TO EVEN IN WRITING. [OVERLAPPING]. >> EVEN YESTERDAY STILL. >> THEN WE CAN MOVE THE PROJECT FURTHER WEST, AND WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN THOSE. >> BUT NOT JUST THIS PROJECT, BUT IN THE FUTURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIORITIZING SAND [OVERLAPPING]. >> SOME ARE COURSE. >> WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THESE OTHER AGENCIES ON [OVERLAPPING] THEIR PRIORITY. >> YOU BET BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE BUDM ELIGIBLE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND OTHER SAND SOURCES AND OTHER TYPE PROJECTS AS WE MOVE WEST. DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO NOURISH EVERYTHING FROM THE END OF THE SEAWALL THE SAME WAY PAST BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY CREATING. WE'RE TRYING TO FILL IN THE GAPS OUT THERE, IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. TRYING TO FILL IN THE MISSING TEETH. >> YEAH. >> WE'RE TRYING TO STOP LOSING A BLOCK AT A TIME. >> BRIAN, IF YOU GET WITH STAMP, THE COAST RESOURCE MANAGER, [OVERLAPPING]. >> DON IS ALREADY DRAFTING SOME OF THAT FOR LOCAL, THEY CAN GET TOGETHER, GET THAT IN, WE'LL [OVERLAPPING]. >> LETS GET SOME SPACE IN WRITING SO WE CAN'T TALK [INAUDIBLE]. >> YOU BET. >> OKAY. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THAT. >> YES, SHARE, I'M SORRY. >> I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO COLLABORATE FOR [01:40:01] BOTH THE PARK BOARD AND THE CITY BECAUSE IF THEY MEET WITH GLO, WHICH I'M UNDERSTANDING OF THIS LETTER, BUT IF YOU GUYS MEET COLLECTIVELY, THEN THAT SHOULD BE STRONGER. >> WE ASKED THE GLO YESTERDAY TO NO LONGER MEET WITH JUST ONE OR THE OTHER [OVERLAPPING] BUT TO MEET WITH BOTH OF US COLLECTIVELY. >> RIGHT. >> OKAY. >> I THINK THE GLO IS OKAY WITH THAT, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. I DOWNLOADED IT. THEY FLOATED THAT PART BOARD. >> I'M SURE THE PARK BOARD IS FINE WITH THAT. >> OKAY, YEAH. >> I WOULD THINK. >> THAT JUST MAKES US STRONGER. >> ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. LET'S MOVE THE ITEM, [3.D. Election Order - Charter Amendment (Legal - 20 Min)] NOW THAT WE'VE GOT OUR ITEMS THAT REQUIRE A LOT OF DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO TO THE SHORT ONES THEN. [LAUGHTER] ITEM 3D, PLEASE. I TALKED TO JANELLE THIS MORNING. JANELLE AND I COMPLEMENT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO READ THIS ENTIRE THING. JANELLE, COULD YOU READ JUST ITEM 3D, PLEASE? >> 3D, ELECTION ORDER, CHARTER AMENDMENT. >> VERY GOOD. >> ARE YOU DONE? [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] WELL, LET'S GO TO LUNCH. [LAUGHTER] COUNCIL, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE START OUR DISCUSSION. IT IS ITEM 10C ON THE AGENDA. THERE WAS SOME CALLS TO ME ABOUT THIS ITEM ON HOW IT GOT ON THE AGENDA. MY PHILOSOPHY HAS ALWAYS BEEN, IF WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WANTS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THEN I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT TO GET THAT OUT THERE. I AM NOT GOING TO SERVE AS YOUR MAYOR TO BE THE GATEKEEPER AND PUT ITEMS ON THERE THAT I AGREE WITH ONLY AND NOT PUT THOSE ON THERE THAT I DON'T. COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS HAS THIS ITEM OUT THERE AND HE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA AND HAVE IT DISCUSSED. SECOND OF ALL, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING THIS AND VOTING ON IT THE SAME DAY. THAT IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF ALL OF OUR ITEMS THAT COUNTY COUNCIL, WE DISCUSS THEM AT WORKSHOP AND USUALLY DO A VOTE ON THEM THE NEXT TIME. BUT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM HAS A TIME CONSTRAINT TO IT THAT I FELT WAS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA AT THIS POINT. I DID NOT WANT TO MAKE A DECISION FOR COUNCIL ON HOW THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT TIME-WISE. THIS IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE THEIR DECISION. THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE THE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. I'D LIKE TO START OFF, OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS TO INTRODUCE IT AND WE'LL OPEN THE DISCUSSION. >> I DID NOT INTEND, IT'S FOR THE PRESENCE ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA TO BE CONTROVERSIAL. IT'S JUST I THOUGHT WE COULD SPEND SOME TIME ON IT THIS MORNING BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE HOPING TO A LOT OF QUESTION. I THINK THERE'LL BE PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT THIS WHEN WE GET TO THE EVENING MEETING. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE THIS EVENING, BUT RATHER WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO LUNCH RATHER THAN TRYING TO GET TO IT. I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP IN OCTOBER EXCEPT THE HOTEL-TAX REPOSITORY AND DETERMINATION OF THE WORD WITH THE EXTRA FINES, IT'S SO MUCH OF OUR ATTENTION. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN PRODUCTIVE OR EVEN ALL THAT SERIOUSLY IF WE'VE TRIED TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. HERE WE ARE IN JANUARY TALKING ABOUT THIS. THE URGENCY IS THAT THIS IS THE LAST REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING BEFORE WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION CALL. WE COULD TALK IF PEOPLE ARE TRULY CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING WORKSHOP AND VOTED ON THE SAME DAY, WE DO THAT SOMETIMES WHEN THERE'S A TIME CONSTRAINT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT TODAY AND DO A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 9TH FEBRUARY TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS. I THINK THERE ARE THINGS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IN REGARDS TO ITEM C AMENDMENT, THE IDC ELECTIONS THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT. I STILL THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL TONIGHT AND PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AS WELL WHATEVER COUNCIL THINKS ABOUT THAT. THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO 8A. >> 82A. >> 82A. THANK YOU. IT'S A CHARTER LANGUAGE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 1969 WHEN A LOT BEFORE MUCH OF THE CORRECT TAX LAW EVEN EXISTED. THREE PERCENT WAS LEVIED AS A HOTEL TAX TO SUPPORT ADVERTISING PROMOTION FOR HOTELS AND TOURISM ON THE ISLAND. THAT WAS THEN THIS IS NOW. THE NEWSPAPER REPORTED THAT THE TIME THAT THREE PERCENT WOULD [01:45:01] RAISE $90,000 FOR PROMOTION AND ADVERTISING. AT THE TIME OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WAS DOING ITS JOB THAT WE'RE DOING WITH VOLUNTEER FUNDS FROM HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS, AND THAT EVIDENTLY WAS WORKING OUT AS WELL. SO CINDER SCHWARTZ THOUGHT IT BETTER THAN WE FORMALIZE THIS, AND SO WE GOT PUT INTO STATE LAW. FOR WHATEVER REASON IT GOT PUT A NEW CHARTER THAT WE WOULD GIVE THAT MONEY TO PARK BOARD BECAUSE AT THE TIME [NOISE] THE PARK BOARD WASN'T EVEN MANAGING CBV AT THE TIME BUT IT WAS A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE CBV AND THE PARK BOARD. IN THE MEANTIME, THAT $90,000 HAS GROWN TO ABOUT $800,000 IN VALUE TODAY. INSTEAD THREE PERCENT, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT INFLATION. INSTEAD, THREE PENNIES TODAY COMES TO JUST UNDER $10 MILLION. THE CHARTER LANGUAGE MANDATES THAT THAT'D BE GIVEN TO THE PARK BOARD FOR ADVERTISING PROMOTION. CBV IS IN EVERY MENTIONED IN THIS. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, CHARTER LANGUAGE DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE A CONTRACT. IT DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE REVIEW OR APPROVAL OF A BUDGET, IT CONTEMPLATES NO REPORTING. IN THAT WAY, IT DOES NOT COMPORT WITH STATE LAW. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT HERE. WE'RE JUST ALIGNING OURSELVES WITH STATE LAW, HOW OUR PROCESSES ARE PROCEEDING. THIS IS THE FINAL APPROVAL IF YOU ASK ME BECAUSE IT PUTS THE CITY IN THE ODD POSITION OF HAVING TO DELIVER MONEY THAT- WHAT IT CONTEMPLATES IS DELIVERING $10 MILLION FOR THE PARK BOARD WITH ZERO OVERSIGHT. NO OVERSIGHT, NO REPORTING, NO BUDGETING, NONE OF THAT'S NECESSARY. THAT'S ACCORDING TO OUR CHARTERED LANGUAGE. >> DOESN'T SAY IN OUR ORDINANCES THAT WE APPROVED THAT BUDGET? >> YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. >> YES. IT DOES. BUT THE CHARTER WOULD TRUMP AN ORDINANCE. THE STATE LAW TRUMPS OF THE CHARTER. LET'S LOOK AT THIS HIERARCHY THAT YES THE ORDINANCES DO SAY THAT AND WE PUT THOSE ORDINANCES IN PLACE BECAUSE THEY'VE LINED US UP WITH STATE LAW [NOISE]. WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS ITEM IN THE CHARTER THAT WOULD DO IT ANOTHER WAY. >> IN A WAY WE ACCOMPLISH THAT AND [NOISE] >> YOU STILL HAVE THE CHARTER TO WORRY ABOUT. YOU STILL HAVE THE CHARTER LANGUAGE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. THE SIMPLE SOLUTION IS TO JUST TAKE THAT OUT OF THE CHARTER. JUST SAY, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT ACCORDING TO STATE LAW BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL COME BACK TO ME AND SAY WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THE COMMISSION IT DOES BUSINESS. THE ANSWER IS NONE. I THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB. THEY REALLY DO. THE CITY HAS NO DESIRE TO DEFUND THEM TO DO WHAT THEY DO. IN THE MEANTIME, THOUGH, WE SPEND $1.5 MILLION DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING THEY DO. WE DO IT CURRENTLY THROUGH THE ARCHES FOR PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, BUT WE SPENT A $1.5 MILLION ON ADVERTISING AND PROMOTION PROGRAMS THAT ARE BECOMING OUT OF THIS MONEY. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THIS MONEY BECAUSE IT GOES BY DEFAULT TO THE PARK BOARD. IT PUTS THE PARK BOARD IN A FUNNY POSITION. THE CBV'S BUDGET LAST YEAR WAS $6.6 MILLION. THE THREE PENNIES IS ALMOST $10 MILLION, YOU FIND $9.9 MILLION, SO WHERE'S THE EXTRA $3 MILLION GO? IT PUTS THE PARK BOARD IN A FUNNY POSITION OF HAVING TO ESSENTIALLY STUFF THEIR BUDGET. THEY PUT IT UNDER SPECIAL PROJECTS EXPENSE, UNFORESEEN SPECIAL PROJECTS $2.989 MILLION. THREE MILLION DOLLARS UNFORESEEN SPECIAL PROJECTS. WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? THEY HAVE TO PUT IT SOMEPLACE. >> COULD BE LEGAL FEES. >> COULD BE [LAUGHTER] THAT'S COOL. >> SORRY. [LAUGHTER] >> [OVERLAPPING] BUT THEY WEREN'T THREATENED. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE LEGAL FEES. >> YEAH. THERE YOU GO. [OVERLAPPING] >> SOMEBODY WILL FIND STATE LAW THREATENING. I GET THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS DESIGNED TO DO, IS TO REMOVE THE CONFLICT FROM THE CHARTER WHERE IT CONFLICTS WITH STATE LAW. >> DAVID, I HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL FIRST, JOHN. >> I'LL JUST START WITH SAYING THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE CHARTER AMENDMENT ON MAY ELECTION. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ON NOVEMBER ELECTION. THIS BEING LAST MINUTE, I THINK TOTALLY LENDS ITSELF TO GO TO NOVEMBER. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL LOOKING AT THIS AND COMPLY WITH STATE LAW. I DON'T WANT TO BE CALLED THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T COMPLY WITH STATE LAW. I'D LIKE TO SAY, I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. WE NEED TO PROBABLY GET A LIST OF AMENDMENTS AND PUT TOGETHER A SCHEDULE ON WHEN WE DO THOSE AMENDMENTS OVER [01:50:05] THE NEXT SIX OR EIGHT YEARS AND HAVE A CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION EVERY TWO YEARS TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF CLEARED UP THAT WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IN AGES. MY FIRST THOUGHT IS TO NOT DO THIS IN MAY. GET IT GOOD SCHEDULE OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO PRESENT GET THAT ALL ROLLED OUT OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS. THIS COULD BE ONE THAT WE LOOKED AT IN NOVEMBER. THEN PLAN THIS OUT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY PUT A GOOD AMENDMENT TOGETHER TO [OVERLAPPING] >> ONE QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THAT. WE WERE CALLING AN ELECTION TODAY FOR MAY. I CONTEMPLATE THIS BEING ON THAT BALANCE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ELECTION SCHEDULED FOR MAY. >> [OVERLAPPING] BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY IN NOVEMBER. >> [OVERLAPPING] BOND ISSUE IS THAT WE DID. [OVERLAPPING] >> CORRECT. >> WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER? >> YEAH. >> IF WE PUT THIS ONE ISSUE ON THE BALLOT IN MAY, IT DELAYS EVERYTHING FOR TWO YEARS. WELL, WE CAN'T DO ANOTHER CHARTER MEMBER TWO YEARS. >> WELL, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S TRUE. YOU GO TO THE CHART A MINIMUM EVERY TWO YEARS AND I'M PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. I REALLY DO QUESTION WHERE THE NOVEMBER SOMETIME TO HAVE IS WHAT TRADITIONALLY HAS HAPPENED. THEY'D BEEN IN ODD YEARS IN MAY, THAT WE DON'T PUT THEM ON, ON ELECTION DAY. >> RIGHT. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THAT ISSUE. >> BUT ODD YEARS IN NOVEMBER, DOES IT [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVE MARIE WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS. >> I JUST HAVE TO SAY I ECHO WHAT JOHN SAID. BUT I WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO IT. I THINK IT WOULD HURT THE FORD PAY SALES TAX PUTTING THIS ON A MAY. [OVERLAPPING] I THINK THE FORD BASED SALES TAX IS CRUCIAL, THAT WE GET THAT PASS. LET ME FINISH. BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALONG WITH THIS ON THE CHARTER AND I'D SAY 70 PERCENT THAT WE'RE HAVING AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, IF NOT HIGHER, FOR A BOND ISSUE, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY TIE IN BETTER WITH THE CHARTER. I JUST THINK TIMING WISE TO RUSH INTO THIS AND THEN THE MEANTIME, WHICH WOULD BE PRETTY STANDARD OPERATION. WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A CHARTER COMMITTEE, EVEN IF IT WAS COUNSELED PEOPLE, SOME OTHER PEOPLE TO LOOK AT DOING MORE WHAT OTHER THINGS MIGHT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. THEN THE INTERIM TO COVER YOUR CONCERNS, WE CAN PUT LANGUAGE IN THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WOULD KEEP IT UNTIL WE'D BEEN HAD A CHANCE THAT FURTHER REFILL IT. >> THAT'S FAIR, TOTALLY FAIR. I THINK STATE LAW SOLVES THE ISSUE. MY CONCERN IS THIS CHARTER LANGUAGE FLIES IN THE FACE OF STATE LAW. THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD THAT WE'RE HAVING AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. >> FIRST, I HEARD IT WAS AN ENGINEERING FIRM TALKING [LAUGHTER] IN OURS AND I WAS SO SURPRISED AND I WENT TO THE MAYOR LIKE, ARE WE [INAUDIBLE]? >> IT'S NOT 100 PERCENT. >> WELL MARIE SAID 70. >> WELL, IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT CAN GO ON IN NOVEMBER ELECTION. >> YES. >> IF YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE IT ON THERE. I WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ON THIS. IN MY MIND. FIRST OF ALL, IF THIS IS DELAYED, DEFERRED, AND CONSIDER FOR THE NOVEMBER BALLOT, THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE'RE NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM. IT MEANS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO STUDY THIS ITEM IN THE CONTEXT OF OTHER CHARTER AMENDMENTS AND SEE IF WE WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE BALLOT. DON GUIDE ME ON THIS IN MY MIND, THERE'S TWO ISSUES HERE. ONE ISSUE IS DON OUTLINE THAT WE'RE AGAINST STATE LAW AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. A STATE LAW TRUMPS THE CHARTER, DOES IT NOT? >> IT DOES ON THIS. YES. >> I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT LIKE OUR OTHER TWO ORDINANCES THAT QUOTE, WE WERE NOT IN KEEPING WITH STATE LAW. THIS IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION. >> THAT I MUST READ THE CHARTER IN THE STATUTE. THE STATE STATUTE SAYS, IF YOU'RE ASSESSING HARD AT A RATE OF 4 PERCENT OR MORE, YOU MUST USE 3 PERCENT FOR ADVERTISING. IT DOESN'T SAY TO WHOM, WE HAVE TO GIVE THAT MONEY. [01:55:01] >> THAT NO. >> THE CHARTER THEN CONTROLS ON THAT ISSUE. >> THAT IS CORRECT. BUT TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW. I DON'T SEE THAT AS A PROPER ARGUMENT ON THIS. THE OTHER THING TOO ON THIS IS THAT IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE CHARTER WOULD BE IN STATE LAW, WE CAN CHANGE IT IN A DIFFERENT MANNER THAT'S OUTLINED HERE. THAT COULD BE DONE, IN MY OPINION, IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MANNER AND DIFFERENT WORDING ON THAT. I THINK THE ISSUE CAME UP THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT, DON, I'LL BE VERY HONEST AND FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE REASONS THAT YOU OUTLINED HERE, I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN IMPERATIVE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON MAY ELECTION HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. >> THAT'S THE COUNCIL CHOICE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. SECOND OF ALL, THERE WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WELL, NOW YOU HAVE EXTRA MONEY IN THE ACCOUNT AND YOU GIVE THEM EXTRA MONEY AND THEY HAVE QUOTAS SLUSH FUND, WHICH I TOOK EXCEPTION TO. IT'S NOT A SLIP AND [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE BLUE BUTTON? [OVERLAPPING] >> WHICH BUTTON IS THAT ONE. >> HERE. BUT THEY DID NOT. >> BUT THE WHOLE COMMENT OF CONSIDERING IN A SLUSH FUND I THINK WAS DEROGATORY AND I DON'T SEE IT AS THAT. >> WOULD YOU CARE TO EXPLAIN THE UNFORESEEN FEDERAL PROJECTS AND $3 MILLION BUT I REFERENCED IT. >> I WOULD HAVE TO ASK COUNCILMAN BOUVIER, THOSE ARE AT LEAST A LIAISON WITH THE MATTER OF THE FACT, WALK ME THROUGH THIS. IF WE GIVE THEM THE ENTIRE THREE PENNIES FOR THIS AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR BUDGET APPROVED. >> YOU'LL STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT A BUDGET TELLING US HOW THEY CAN USE THAT AND WE'LL STILL SIGN [NOISE] A CONTRACT AND THEY WILL GIVE US THE QUARTER MEAN. >> IF THEY DON'T, AND IF THEIR BUDGET DOESN'T SUPPORT THE USE OF THOSE THREE PAYS, THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO THE CITY. >> MONEY IS NOT BEING USED. >> BUT IF THEIR BUDGET DOESN'T SUPPORT, IF THEIR BUDGET IS 6 MILLION FOR PROMOTION AND THEY'RE GETTING $10 MILLION AND THAT MONEY IS [OVERLAPPING]. >> THEIR BUDGET RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE WHOLE AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY PLUGGED THAT LAST AMOUNT FOR $2.9 MILLION. >> WELL, THE COUNSEL REVIEWS THAT BUDGET. WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. >> ANDREW, WHAT ABOUT IT? >> WELL, THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF COUNCIL DOESN'T APPROVE, IF WE SAY THEY GET THREE PENNIES FOR PROMOTION OF THE ISLAND, WHICH IS WHAT [OVERLAPPING] REQUIRES AND THEIR BUDGET, DOES NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF ALL THOSE THREE PENNIES. COUNCIL DOES HAVE ONE LAB THAT MONEY UTILIZED IN ANY OTHER THE WAY THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO THE CITY. >> COMES BACK TO THE? >> TO THE FUND. >> IT STARTS COME BACK TO THE CITY FOR USE. >> EXACTLY. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS SOMEWHAT COVERED, I THINK COUNCIL WOMAN. >> HOWEVER CREDIT, THEY CAN SPEND ALL THAT 2.9 MILLION RIGHT NOW. WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT IT'S OWN. >> WELL, BRIAN, THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE IN THIS TRANSITION YEAR RIGHT NOW. ONCE WE START NEXT YEAR, THAT BUDGET WILL BE COMING TO COUNSEL. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THEM. THIS IS KIND OF AN OUTLIER A YEAR BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT. >> I'M A STICKLER FOR BUDGET LAW. THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THAT. >> WELL, I DON T THINK IT DOES. >> NONE UNLESS WE HAVE THEM GIVE US A DETAILED BUDGET FOR FURTHER. >> YOU DID, YOU APPROVED IT AT 2.9 MILLION IN THERE FOR UNSPECIFIED PROJECTS. >> I'M SAYING THAT DETAILED REQUESTS FOR UNSPECIFIED. >> BRYSON. I'M GOING TO CALL BRYSON UP HERE. I ASKED HIM TO BE HERE SOON. >> MORE THAN HAPPY IF, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS THIS VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION. REFUND PROCEED PROJECTS ISN'T ACCOUNT TITLE INSIDE OF OUR BUDGET WHICH WAS PROVIDED A FEW STAFF ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, WHICH IS ALSO APPROVED BY THE TRUSTEES AND MULTIPLE COMMITTEES AND THAT IS ALSO POSTED ONLINE, INCLUDES A DETAILED LISTING OF WHAT EXACTLY THOSE EXPENDITURES WOULD BE AND I CAN LIST A FEW. ONE OF THEM IS THE WAY FINDING PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON RIGHT NOW. THE OTHERS, JUNETEENTH SPONSORSHIP AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK WITH COUNCIL WOMAN, EXCUSE ME, LEWIS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS TO YOU. I MEAN, I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT IT'S DETAILED, IT'S PUBLISHED, IT'S TRANSPARENT AND IT'S OUT THERE. IT IS NOT A SLUSH BUTTON. QUITE FRANKLY, I'M NOT REALLY APPRECIATING THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE AND IT'S SOLELY MEAN. IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. [NOISE] [02:00:01] >> ALL RIGHT. THE QUESTION THAT COMES UP, BRYSON, IF MONEY SAY IS THREE PENNIES AND I'M NOT SAYING WE WILL DO THAT IT MAY BE THAT WILL HAVE A CHARTER AMENDMENT TO CLEAN THAT UP. BUT IF THREE PENNIES ARE GIVEN TO THE PARK BOARD FOR A PROMOTION, YOU DO HAVE YOUR BUDGET FOR THAT AND IT DOESN'T SUPPORT THE 10 MILLION. THAT MONEY THEN COMES BACK IN THE TRANSFER BACK TO THE CITY TO THE ACCOUNTS. DOES HE KNOW IT? >> THAT HAS NOT BEEN WORKED OUT YET, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE WOULD BE WORKED OUT THROUGH THE AIR LOCAL. >> LET ME WORK THAT THROUGH THE HOT TAX AGREEMENT, NOT THE END. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> I WOULD'VE ENVISIONED IT A TALLYING AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WE DO A QUATERLY REPORTING AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR A TALLYING IN FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHERE THE FUND BALANCE IS SET AT THAT TIME. >> BECAUSE THE HOT TAX CONTRACT IS BEING PUT TOGETHER AND THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT, YOU WOULD START ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES APPARENTLY IN THE HOT TAX AS YOU MENTIONED. >> I HOPE WE ADDRESSED IN THE HOT TAX BECAUSE I CAN'T PUT IN OUR CIP $30 MILLION FOR FUTURE SPECIAL PROJECTS. I HAVE TO OUTLINE THE PROJECTS. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S PROPER BUDGETING AND PROPER BUDGET LIGHTS SPELLED OUT IN THE BUDGET, BUT NOT IN A SUBSIDIARY DOCUMENT THAT'S NOT PUBLISHED WITH THE BUDGET. >> IT IS PUBLISHED WITH THE BUDGET AND THEY ARE NOT CAPITAL PROJECTS. IT IS PUBLISHED WITH THE BUDGET I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO AND LOOK AT IT ONLINE. IF IT'S THE ACCOUNT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MATERIALISM DEVELOPMENT BUDGET IS NOT CAPITAL PROJECTS. >> MY LAST COMMENT ON THIS IS THAT THESE CHARTER CHANGES. THE CHARTER IS VERY SACRED TO THIS CITY AND I'M CONCERNED, I'M NOT TALKING FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT, BUT THIS CHARTER TO DO THIS AT THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT AND THEN PUT THIS ON THIS MAY BALLOT, I THINK IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE THOROUGHNESS THAT THE COMMUNITY LEGS TOWARDS THIS COUNCIL TO PUT INTO THESE CHARTER AMENDMENTS BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE VOTE OF THE COUNTY FOR THE COMMUNITY. I WILL SUPPORT JOHN PAUL'S THOUGHTS ON THIS AND RESTARTS ON THIS. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NEEDED AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. THERE'S NO REASON TO DO THIS LEGALLY AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME IN MY MIND AND I THINK IT GIVES US TIME TO SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THIS AND PUT THE PROPER THOUGHT TO IT FOR ANY FUTURE CONSIDERATION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, WILLIAM? >> SUB-COUNCIL DECIDES TO ACT ON THIS TONIGHT, AND WE APPROVE IT, OBVIOUSLY ON ELECTION IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, WHAT'S THE END GOAL HERE? BECAUSE I'M HEARING WE WANT TO BRING MORE CHARTER AMENDMENTS. WHAT DO WE DO BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER? >> I WOULD SAY WE ASK STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT THEY THINK [OVERLAPPING] >> PUT TOGETHER A CHARTER OF AMENDMENTS. >> THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK COMMITTEES, BUT I THINK IT DOES NEED TO BE COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYBE A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS AND JUST SOME GENERAL PEOPLE OUT THERE. THEN A SCHEDULE ON WHEN WE NEED TO GO FOR THESE AND PUT TOGETHER AN EIGHT-YEAR SCHEDULE OF GOING FOR THESE CHARTER AMENDMENTS. >> MAY I SHARE? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY, DAWN? I'M SORRY. >> MAY I SHARE? >> YES, SIR. >> IS IT FOOD? >> NO. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS. I THINK IT WAS IN 2018, WE HAD 24 CHARTERS, YOU'VE GOT THIS ON. [LAUGHTER] THAT WAS CRAZY. WE NEED TO BE MORE STRATEGIC AND I WOULD SAY NO MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR AT A TIME. [OVERLAPPING] IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAY AND THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. COUNCIL MEETING THAT YOU HAD IN NOVEMBER MADE YOU WOKE OPEN AND IT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AT THE TIME, AND BECAUSE OF THAT IT RESTRICTED THE NUMBER OF POLLING PLACES THAT HELEN COULD HAVE. NOW, IF MR. DEWEY AND THE COUNTY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING A ISSUE THROUGH TO ABOLISH THE TREASURER'S OFFICE. THAT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE VOTED ON IN TIMES. WE'LL HAVE, JANELLE, HOW MANY POLLING PLACES DID WE LOSE? >> COMMISSIONERS DISTRICTS AND ONE DISTRICT OR WHATEVER IT IS. >> WENDY WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING AND SHE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN EFFECT, WHETHER [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH ONE BECAUSE THEY'VE GIVEN US ONE COUNTY COMMISSIONER. >> YOU WON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY SO OVER OLD SPOTS UP TO TWO. [02:05:08] WITH THAT, IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO HOLD THE BOUND ELECTION LATER. THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE. >> OF COURSE, FALLING THEN YOU'RE PUTTING IT ON A COUNCIL ELECTION, BUT YOU ALWAYS TRY NOT TO. >> WELL, OFF HERE. YOU CAN'T DO IT OFF HERE. [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY GIVE THEIRS, IF DUKEY IS SUCCESSFUL. >> YEAH. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? YES. [OVERLAPPING] >> NOT JUST LOOKING AT THIS YEAR FOR THE BUDGET OF THE ADVERTISING, BUT IF WE GO BACK TO 2017, REVENUES WERE 5.1 MILLION. THE EXPENDITURE FOR 1.6. THEY HAD A DEFICIT OF 451,000 DOLLARS. THEY WERE IN THE HOLE. IT'S A GUESSING GAME BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GUESS HOW MUCH THE PENNY IS GOING TO BE WORTH AND SO YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE IT AS MOST AS YOU CAN FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE ISLAND. I CAN SEE WHERE THEY WENT OVER ON THEIR BUDGET HERE. THE NEXT YEAR, 2018, 6.2, THEIR EXPENDITURES WERE 5.4. 2019 WAS 6 MILLION. THEIR EXPENDITURES WERE 6 MILLION. THE 2020 WAS 5.1. THEY SPENT AROUND 5.1 AND IT GOES ON AND ON. WHEN YOU TALLY EVERYTHING UP, THE TOTAL LEFTOVER FROM ALL THOSE YEARS IS 1,055,000. I HEAR THESE EXTRA MONEYS AND EVERYTHING NOT BEING SPENT BUT I'M SEEING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THE HISTORY. ALSO, HAS THE ARTS AND CULTURAL EVER GONE AND TRIED TO ASK THEM TO DO ADVERTISING FOR THEM INSTEAD OF SPENDING THAT ONE MILLION DOLLARS? >> I DON T KNOW THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT CITY ORGANIZATIONS OR PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME TO THE CITY. >> MY QUESTION IS IF IT'S AN ADVERTISEMENT THAT BETTERMENTS THE GALVESTON ISLAND AND WE HAVE [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T WANT TO BE PETTY WITH YOU, DAVID. I JUST WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU. SO PLEASE TRY NOT TO BATCH ME AS I'M TRYING TO MAKE MY POINT. >> PARDON ME. PLEASE, CONTINUE. >> THANK YOU. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THIS ORGANIZATION WOULD GO TO THE PARK BOARD AND ASK IF THEY CAN DO SOME ADVERTISING FOR THEM. I'M SURE THEIR ADVERTISING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE GLAD TO DO SOMETHING IN ADVERTISING FOR THEM. SAME THING WITH THE WARDS. THEY'RE THERE, THEY HAVE IT ALL DEVELOPED, READY TO GO. BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS GONE THERE. >> MAY I? >>YES, SIR. >> HE'S GOT A POINT. THIS A GOOD IDEA. >> YES. >> JUST SEND TO THE [INAUDIBLE] BOARD. I THINK I CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. [OVERLAPPING] THAT MAY SHOCK YOU. [LAUGHTER] >> MAYBE THEIR BUDGET GETS ADJUSTED AND SPENDS, ALLOCATED FOR THE WARDS. >> YOU ARE 100 PERCENT RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT COULD HAPPEN AS THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE BUDGET. THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE. >> YES. >> BUT THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO RECREATE THE WILL. WE ALREADY HAVE THE ADVERTISING AGENCY. >> TO BE CLEAR, I JUST WANTED TO SPELL IT OUT. BECAUSE I DON'T JUST PUT A BUDGET LINE ITEM IN MY BUDGET. THAT'S POLICE STUFF. IT HAS DETAIL BEHIND IT JUST LIKE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] >> MY HOPE THIS YEAR IS WHEN WE GET THE BUDGET AND WE HAVE TIME, JUST LIKE WE SIT DOWN WITH MICHEAL OFTEN AND DAN BAFFLY, IS THAT WE DO THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR. WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THE PARK BOARD, AND GO, "OKAY, SO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THESE ARE?" THEN WE CAN GET THOSE PIECES OF INFORMATION AND DETAILED INFORMATION. I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS. THANK YOU. >> GOOD. >> WELL, IF THESE ARE ALL CAREFULLY DETAILED BEFORE THE BUDGET COMES OUT, I'D RECOMMEND YOU DON'T USE THE WORD, "UNFORESEEN SPECIAL PROJECTS." >> PROBABLY NOT THE BEST TYPE, ALREADY USED. >> BECAUSE IF THEY WEREN'T FORESEEN, HOW ARE THEY IN THE BUDGET? IF THEY WERE FORESEEN, WHERE ARE THEY? >> IT'S A HISTORICAL ACCOUNT [INAUDIBLE] AND I WILL TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION. [02:10:02] >> THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT, BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY, STUFF MIGHT COME UP, OTHER THINGS WE MIGHT WANT TO DO. I KNOW IT AROUND A RAILROAD. >> THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE CROWD RIGHT NOW, THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE EXPENDITURES ON OUR TOURISM [INAUDIBLE] INCUBATE. ABSOLUTELY, THEY DO. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HELPED GUIDE THAT. WE TAKE THAT THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE THROUGH THE BOARD. >> SOMEONE WHO'S EVER RECALL, IN THAT VERY TOPIC THAT THE COMMITTEE ONE TIME SAID, "WHAT THIS APPEARS TO BE IS MONEY LOOKING FOR SOME PLACE TO SPEND ITSELF." >> I THINK WE'RE GETTING OFF SUBJECT HERE, WE'RE BAD DREAM THE PART WHERE- [OVERLAPPING] >> BAD DREAM ME WHEN I'M MAKING A COMMENT. >> IT FEELS LIKE BAD DREAM. I THINK WE NEED TO STAY WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THE VOTE AND IN THE ORDINARY OR THE [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING] >> I THINK HOW THIS MONEY IS EXPENDED IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. PART OF THAT $14.1 MILLION CAME BACK TO THE CITY. IT WAS A NON-TRIVIAL PART OF THAT, THAT WAS IN TOURISM DEVELOPMENT, SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS. THIS MONEY IS NOT ALL THEY SPEND. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. >> COUNCIL, LET'S GET SOME OTHER THOUGHTS, SHARON. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK WE'RE ON THE ROAD TO COLLABORATION. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, WITH THE LEATHER, THAT'S GREAT, THE PARK BOARD AND THE CITY. THE IDEA OF THE PARK BOARD DOING ADVERTISEMENT WAS UP FOR THE VOTE. THAT'S A GREAT CHESS PLAY. I THINK THAT COLLABORATION IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS AND IT WORKS WITH PEOPLE, AS FAR AS [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH. >> LET'S WRAP THIS UP. JOHN, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A FINAL COMMENT OR NO? >> NO. I'VE GOT A GREAT IDEA THOUGH. [OVERLAPPING] >> I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT. >> I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. I THINK EXACTLY RIGHT. WE SHOULD SPELL IT OUT AND BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT. >> I WOULD AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. [OVERLAPPING] >> I WELCOME THAT. WOULD LOVE COUNCIL'S INPUT ON HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THESE HOTBEDS. I WELCOME THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> IF I MIGHT NOTE, [OVERLAPPING] THE HOTBEDS CONTRACT, MIKE GAVE ME HIS LAST TWO COMMENTS THIS MORNING. MR. BUCKCLAIM WILL REVIEW IT AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE IT NEXT WEEK. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE]. I APPRECIATE THAT. GOOD JOB. >> APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [3.E. Council Updates (Staff - 30 Min)] >> LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3E, PLEASE. >> 3E. COUNCIL UPDATES, ONE, CITY PARK BOARD IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT. >> WELL, BRIAN, [NOISE] WHERE ARE WE ON? [OVERLAPPING] >> WE ALREADY HAD ONE MEETING. WE WERE GOING TO MEET AGAIN THIS WEEK. WE POSTPONED IT PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING ON SOME FINANCIAL DETAIL FOR THE PARK BOARD, WHICH PRICE HAS BEEN WORKING ON. I KNOW HE'S BEEN OTHERWISE DISTRACTED WITH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. BUT WE'RE ON TRACK TOO. ALSO, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME ZOOMING AND SOME OTHER THINGS. IT JUST WORKED OUT BETTER. BUT I THINK WE'RE SCHEDULED TO MEET BRYSON NEXT. IS BRYSON [INAUDIBLE]? [BACKGROUND] I THINK WE'RE SCHEDULED TO MEET NEXT WEEK. >> COUNCIL HAS SOMEWHAT OF A TENTATIVE THOUGHT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE THIS ON OUR MARCH AGENDA, BRIAN, DO YOU THINK- >> IT'S A NOBLE CAUSE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY REALLY, REALLY HARD. WE'RE TAKING WHAT I THINK ARE THE HARDEST ITEMS FIRST, SO WE'LL SEE. >> VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, COUNCIL? >> LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 2 ALTERNATIVE. >> LET ME JUST SAY ONE THING, THEY HIRED LARRY SIMONS, I BELIEVE IS YOUR ATTORNEY. SUPER GREAT GUY, SEEMS VERY EASY TO WORK WITH. HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL EXPEDITE THINGS. HE MADE ME FEEL NICE. >> YEAH. I WAS AWARE OF THAT. >> MAINLY SO THAT YOU KNOW WE ARE HAVING A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP. >> GOOD. >> VERY GOOD. ALTERNATIVE REVENUE ON PARKING. BRIAN AND I MET WITH THE COURT, HEARING MAXWELL AND ROGER REECE, A NUMBER OF WEEKS AGO TO TALK ABOUT AN ALTERNATIVE FUNDING STREAM FOR PARKING. BRIAN HAS MET WITH SOME OF THE PRIVATE PARKING LOT OWNERS. BRIAN, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. >> BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE A SAMPLE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET MATERIAL, CONCERNING- >> I'M NOT SURE THIS ONE MADE IT INTO THE PACKET. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S ON YOUR WORKSHEET. >> PLEASE WRITE DRAFT ON IT. >> IT'S ON YOUR WORKSHEET. >> [INAUDIBLE] HAS CHANGED. >> HAS IT CHANGED FROM OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY? >> YES. >> OKAY. [BACKGROUND] I GOT WITH DON YESTERDAY ON A TOPIC CONCERNING PARKING OF THE HOTELS, FALLING UNDER THIS. I AM TOLD, AND I DON T KNOW, THAT SOME OF THE HOTELS, IF YOU STAY THERE, THEN YOU CAN PAY TO CONTINUE TO KEEP YOUR CAR IN THE PARKING LOT FOR FOUR OR FIVE DAYS, AND THEN YOU CAN BE SHUTTLED BACK AND FORTH TO THE CRUISE TERMINALS. [02:15:01] THAT WAS NOT COVERED IN THIS ORDINANCE. I TALKED TO DON ABOUT IT. DON, YOU'VE MADE SOME CHANGES ON IT? >> IT IS. THE LANGUAGE I PUT IN IS ITALICIZED ON PAGE 2, IN SECTION A. >> WHAT PART OF [INAUDIBLE]? >> MAY I COMMENT ON THAT? JUST SEEING AND HEARING BUT MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS I THINK IT'S REALLY LUDICROUS BECAUSE HOTELS USE PARKING FOR WHETHER IT'S AT THE AIRPORT, OR AT THE WHATEVER, THEY USE THAT AS AN ADD-ON BENEFIT. THAT'S THE GET NIGHTS AT THEIR HOTEL, THEY'RE NOT CHARGING. >> WE'RE EXEMPTED. >> YOU'RE EXEMPTED? I THOUGHT YOU ADDED IT. >> WE COVERED IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T MENTIONED IN THERE. THAT WOULD HAVE LEFT THIS DARK HOLE THAT WE WOULD HAVE EVENTUALLY RUN DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE LIKE WE DO EVERYTHING ELSE HERE, SO WE TRIED TO COVER THAT OUT. >> YOU TOOK IT OUT? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS THE CASE, BECAUSE I STARTED GETTING CALLS ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. DON ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO RELATE TO COUNSEL? >> NO, WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF THE HOTEL PARKING THING, THAT WAS A SURPRISE. IT'S A SURPRISE INITIATIVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? >> THIS IS ALONG THE LINES OF SEEKING TRYING TO GET US TO THAT NO NEW REVENUE. >> SHOW ME THE MONEY [LAUGHTER] >> WE'VE DEVELOPED THIS. IF COUNCIL GIVES US A NOD THAT THEY LIKE WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH THIS, SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS PUT PROCEDURES IN PLACE, I WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH GLENN AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD AUDIT IN PLACE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE PARKING LOT. THERE'RE ALREADY REMITTING SALES TAX, THAT GIVES GLENN SOMETHING TO TIE BACK TO IN TERMS OF AUDITING. WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD PROGRESS MADE ON. THE ORDINANCE IS THE FIRST STEP TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE STILL ON BOARD WITH THIS PROJECT, AND IF IT IS, THEN WE CAN GO TO TOWN INCORPORATING THE DETAIL BEHIND IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING. I KNOW THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS. ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO MENTION IN THIS TOO, IS THAT WE DO THROW A LITTLE BIT OF A BOND TOWARDS THE PORT, AND THE OPERATORS THAT WE ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL FEE COLLECTED TO COVER ANY EXPENSES. IF THEY'RE ALREADY RIVETING SALES TAXES, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PROBABLY MAKE A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY ON THIS, IT'S NOT A LOT. >> IF THE CHARGE ABOUT 10, THEN THEY GET TO KEEP 10 PERCENT. >> THEY GET TO KEEP 10 PERCENT. >> THE IDEA IS THIS IS A FEE, THIS IS NOT A TAX. THIS IS US COLLECTING A FEE TO HELP OFFSET WHAT IT COSTS THE CITY TO VIRTUALLY BE A LONG-TERM PARKING LOT. IT INCREASES TRAFFIC ON THE ISLAND, IT INCREASES DRAINAGE THAT IS ALREADY OVER DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. THIS WOULD HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS. THE IDEA WAS TO CATCH THOSE CARS THAT [INAUDIBLE] >> IT'S NOT A MONEY GRAB. >> NO. >> NOT INCLUDING HOTELS AS ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN, NOT INCLUDING INSTITUTES OF HIGHER LEARNING. IF A&M OR UTMB HAVE STUDENTS THAT PAY FOR PARKING LOT, THAT'S EXEMPTED. RESIDENTIAL PARKING IS OUT OBVIOUSLY. >> IN GENERAL CONSENSUS BETWEEN TALKING TO THE CHAIR OF THE [INAUDIBLE] BOARD AND THE PRIVATE PARKING, THE GUY THAT RUNS MOST OF THE PRIVATE PARKING LOTS SAYS, JUST DON'T DO IT TO ME, DO IT TO EVERYBODY, AND THE CITY HAS CONTINUED TO SAY THAT THIS SHOULD BE AN AD. I ASSUME THEY CAN ALWAYS ABSORB THIS IF THEY WANTED TO, FOR MARKETING PURPOSES, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS WOULD BE AN AD THAT SHOWS UP SO PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY. >> THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT. >> JUST LIKE EVERY AIRPORT IN AMERICA. >> IT ISN'T A MONEY GRAB, AND I GET HIGHLY OFFENDED WHEN I HEAR ANY GROUP SAY MONEY GRAB. IT'S BECOME MY LEAST FAVORITE STATEMENT. IF I GO TO INTERCONTINENTAL AIRPORT, BEING A CREATURE OF COMFORT, I PARK. >> SOMETIMES YOU JUST GO THERE FOR THE DAY [LAUGHTER] >> THEN I DROVE HOME INTO THE TORNADO, BECAUSE I HAD SATELLITE RADIO ON SINGING AND I'M LIKE, WHY DOES THE HIGHWAY STOP? [LAUGHTER] THEN WHEN I I FINALLY GET CLOSER, I'M LIKE, HOW DID THAT TRUCK END UP HERE, I HAD NO IDEA [LAUGHTER] >> SHE DROVE RIGHT THROUGH IT. >> I MISSED IT BY 15 MINUTES, I HAD NO IDEA OBLIVIOUS TO THE WORLD. [02:20:02] BUT ANYWAY, WHEN I PARKED AT THE AIRPORT, EVEN IF I DIDN'T GET TO TAKE MY FLIGHT THAT DAY, I PARK AT THE AIRPORT, AND ON MY TICKET IS YES TAX, CITY DATA, AND CONVENIENCE FEE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE PAYING TO PARK AND THEN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S UNCOMMON. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TAKING FROM THE REVENUE OF ANYONE BECAUSE THIS IS EVENLY KEELED TO EVERYONE WHO PARKS CRUISE PASSENGERS. WHEN YOU SAY, LET'S JUST USE THE PORT AND THEY'VE TIED IT TO WEST NOW, SO IF IT'S FLOODING ON HARPER SIDE, THEN THEY DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE MIDDLE OF THE TOWN. WE GOT TO COVER THAT USAGE OF THE ROADS, WE GOT TO COVER THE PEOPLE THAT CUT THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, WE HAVE TO COVER THAT, AND THAT'S A WAY WE CAN COVER IT. >> THE OTHER THING TOO, AND I MENTIONED THIS AT OTHER DAY, IS THAT, FOR YEARS HERE, I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE, THE CITY HAS BECOMING [INAUDIBLE] GUYS, LET'S LET THESE GUYS GO SO WE CAN GET THE CRUISE SHIPS. LET'S LET THIS GO SO WE CAN GET MORE TOURS. LET'S LET THIS GO SO WE CAN GET THIS OR THAT. GUYS WERE THERE, THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE EXTRUSION. WE'VE ACHIEVED OUR GOAL, IT'S NOW TIME TO THE CITIZENS REAP SOME BENEFIT FROM THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE INVESTED IN, AND THEY DO SO WITHOUT COSTING THEM MONEY ON THEIR TAX BILL. I THINK WE'RE THERE, WE'VE ACHIEVED OUR GOALS, WE CAN CHECK THAT BOX, EVERYBODY CAN PAT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK. THE PORT, THE PARK BOARD, EVERYBODY CAN PAT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK. WE GOT OUR VISITORS, WE GOT OUR CRUISERS, WE'VE GOT DEVELOPED, PEOPLE ARE HERE, THEY FOUND US. NOW WE HAVE TO START CHANNELING THIS TO THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. >> WELL STATED. I TOLD DON YESTERDAY, I GREATLY APPRECIATE, THIS IS COMPETENT TO DON AND TREVOR, PUT TOGETHER A GOOD ORDINANCE. IT'S SIMPLE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT COVERS EVERYTHING THAT WE WANTED TO. >> CAN I COMPLICATE IT?. I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT RVS. >> RVS WHAT? >> RV PARKS. >> YEAH. >> THEY PAY THE CITY INDIRECTLY I THINK. >> NO THEY PAY PROPERTY, BUT HERE'S THE THING THEY PAY SALES TAX. >> WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COME IN RV PARK AND PARK TO GO IN AND CRUISE. >> BUT THEY'RE SAYING THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN ON RV PARKS FOR MULTIPLE DAYS. [OVERLAPPING] NOW, DON'T GET ME STARTED AS TO WHETHER I THINK RV PARKS SHOULD PAY HOT TAX, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT AN RV. [OVERLAPPING] >> GLEN'S AUDIT ON SALES IS CRITICAL TO THIS. THE QUESTION OF THIS IS DIFFICULT DIRECTLY IN THAT WE CANNOT HAVE A MARSHALL CHECKING AND WATCHING THAT 78 DODGE TO SEE IF IT MOVED FOR THREE DAYS. OKAY. BUT, GLENN CAN DO IT MATHEMATICALLY BECAUSE I'VE TALKED WITH A CONCATENATION OF SALES TAX DATA AND THIS DATA. >> GOOD POINT. [OVERLAPPING] >> MAY I ADD SOMETHING INTO THAT? BUT YES, THE MARSHALL CAN AND DOES OFTEN NON-MODERN PARKING LOTS AND THAT KIND OF THING. BUT, THE MONTH MONOPOLIZING THE CURVE ISSUE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN KNOWN FOR BNBS TO SAY OR SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO SAY, IF YOU SPEND THE NIGHT BEFORE HERE WITH US, YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR CAR ALL WEEK WHILE YOU'RE ON THE CRUISE. YEAH. THAT HAS HAPPENED. THE MARSHALL IS AWARE THAT, IS A POTENTIAL ISSUE. >> SOMETIMES THAT WORKS OUT AND SOMETIMES THE CAR FLOATS DOWNTOWN. [LAUGHTER] >> BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN KNOWN TO HAPPEN. THE MARSHALL NEEDS TO REMAIN VIGILANT ABOUT PRECISELY THAT. >> NO, WE WILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> THAT TAKES A NEIGHBOR TO CALL IT IN. >>TRUST ME THAT THE NEVER DO, DON'T THEY? NEVER [LAUGHTER] >> A VERY GOOD PERCENTAGE WANT A PUBLIC PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. >> JOHN. >> THE SPEED ITSELF IS A DOLLAR TEN PER CAR, PER DAY. >> DOES IT SAY THAT IN HERE? >> SAY THAT PRODUCES [OVERLAPPING] AND TEN PER USE. YEAH. IT'S OKAY? >>YEAH. >>THE ORDINANCE, I BELIEVED AND WANTED TO BE A DOLLAR 10 PER CAR PER DAY. >>THAT WAS MINE. >> I THOUGHT IT. >> WELL, SURE CHANGES. >> IT ONLY SAYS ONE TO ONE. >> BECAUSE IT DOES ITS NOT WHAT IT SAYS. [BACKGROUND] >> SOME CARS PARK FOR THREE DAYS SOME CARS PARK FOR WEEK, [02:25:03] A WEEK. [OVERLAPPING] PER SECTION. >> IT IS A FLAT WHEN TEN. >> THERE NEEDS TO BE A DOLLAR 10 PER CAR PER DAY. THAT WAS WHAT WE DISCUSSED. >> LETS SAY PER DAY. IT IS, SHALL PAY A FEE OF ONLY 10 PER DAY. >> WHERE IS THAT? >> WE HAVE SUB-SECTION 8 SECTION 19-136. [NOISE] >> REMIND 19-136A. >> THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE PARKING LOT SEE IT IS ONLY 10 PER DAY. >> YEAH. MIND THAT WHEN I READ THAT, DON HE SAID PER DAY. >> THIS ONE DOESN'T SAY THAT IN SECTION 19. >> MANY VERSIONS FLOATING AROUND GUYS, LET US GET TO A CLEAN VERSION. [BACKGROUND] >> I'LL JUST GIVE IT BACK TO YOU. >> JOHN, WHEN I READ THROUGH THIS TOO, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF TYPOS. YOU MIGHT LOOK THROUGH THAT AGAIN. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY ARE NOW, BUT I CAN GO BACK THROUGH. >> THOSE AND I SAID YOU WILL BE TAKING CARE OF THOSE BEFORE ANYTHING YET. >> BUT THIS IS A DRAFT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE ON BOARD WITH THE CONCEPT, WITH THE AMOUNTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE SO WE CAN FORMALIZE AND FINALIZE THIS. >> IF WE'RE DOING IT PER DAY AND NOT THAT I'M OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT TYPICALLY WHAT I SEE LIKE AT AIRPORTS RIGHT NOW [NOISE] AND THEY DO A FLAT AMOUNT PER PARK EXPERIENCE. WHETHER YOU'RE PARKING FOR ONE DAY, WHETHER YOU'RE PARKING FOR TEN DAYS, YOU'RE PAYING, LET'S SAY, ANYWHERE FROM TWO DOLLARS TO FIVE DOLLARS. ARE WE CREATING A NIGHTMARE ON AUDITING END BY [OVERLAPPING] >> WE WERE TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT SO THE CRUISER THAT IS ONLY HERE FOR THREE DAYS DOESN'T GET PAY MORE THAN THE GUY. WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE. >> THE AIRPORT DON'T DO THAT. >> BUT, I KNOW THE AIRPORT DOESN'T CARE AND I MEAN. BUT NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. WOULD IT BE EASIER FOR US JUST TO SAY FIVE BUCKS? >> YEAH. >> IN THE SHORT-TERM CRUISES OR THE CHEAPER CRUISES AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE, I DO NOT KNOW. >> I COULD TELL YOU IF A PERSON'S LIKE "HAVE YOU EVER?" LIKE, I NEVER LOOKED AT THAT PARKING STATEMENT UNTIL WE STARTED DISCUSSING THEM. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. >> BECAUSE I GO, I PARK, I PAY. >> GO TO THE BOAT SHOW THIS WEEKEND AND PAY THERE. >> YEAH. >> YOU'D BE PAYING 10 DOLLARS. >> SHE JUST APART. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU WISHED 10 DOLLARS. >> AND PARKING SPOT. OKAY. THE FREE PARKING. >> NO, BECAUSE IT'S INCONVENIENT. >> DON, YOU'LL HAVE THIS PART. [OVERLAPPING] >> THERE WERE FASCINATING. [LAUGHTER] >> COUNCILMAN SHEAR STRESS. >> ANNUAL REGISTRATION FEES JUST $10, RIGHT FOR LIFE. THAT NUMBER WE JUST THREW OUT TEN. >> LET'S JUST COVER OUR COSTS FOR REGISTRATION. AND REALLY ADDS GREAT FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS. IF YOU ALL WOULD RATHER DO A FLAT, THAT'S EASIER TO WRITE, BUT I WAS TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT Y'ALL DISCUSSING. >> TALK ABOUT YOURSELF, [LAUGHTER] FIVE DOLLARS, FIVE-FIFTY. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD BE IMPLYING SAYS IT'S NOT AT ALL [INAUDIBLE]. >> WELL LET'S DO THIS; HOW ABOUT WE RUN THAT VIOLIN AND LET HIM SAY, [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE GUYS IS BECAUSE. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS KIND OF GETTING AT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M DOING THE MATH IN MY HEAD A FOUR-DAY CRUISE, YOU GENERATED 440, RIGHT? BUT IF YOU HAD THE FIVE DOLLAR FLAT RATE, BUT YOU LOSE MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF LACK OF EFFICIENCY AND PNL TO KNOW I COUNT ALL THE TRANSACTIONS. PROBABLY THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. >> YEAH. >> IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HAVE GLEN`S INPUT. IF WE ARE GOING TO CREATE. SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING] >> HE IS, GREAT TO WORK WITH ON THESE. >> GUYS WOULD CALL MORE CUSTOMER AND DO WE KNOW HOW MANY LIGHT, LONG-TERM PRIVATE LIVES WE ACTUALLY HAVE ON THE ISLAND. >> THERE MORPHING AND JASON'S DOING A GREAT JOB OF KIND OF MORPHING THEM TOGETHER BUT I THINK THE PORT IS ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF THE PARKING AND THE OTHER 50 PERCENT IS DIVIDED UP, I THINK THEY TOLD US 13 OPERATORS NOW OR 14? THEY ARE GROWING IN NUMBER. EVERYTHING. >> IS THE ISLAND WIDE? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> YOU KNOW, WE COULD PASS AN ORDINANCE LAST YEAR THAT PREVENTED REALLY LIKE TO POP UP PARKING LOT AND THEY DON'T FEEL A LITTLE MORE. >> WE ARE GETTING WITH THERE'S A NEW ONE ADDED NOW, NEW TERM THAT WAS NOT THERE BEFORE. THERE'S GONNA BE A CONTINUAL GROWTH OF THESE LOTS. AND, AGAIN, A BIG COST IS WE'RE TAKING ALL THAT WATER [OVERLAPPING]. >> AS YOU SEE THAT LOT FILL OUT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CREATURES OF CONVENIENCE. I MEAN, I SAW SOMEBODY THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PARK DOWNTOWN OR WHATEVER, WALKING DOWN THE STREET WITH ALL THEIR LUGGAGE AND WHATNOT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT WHEN YOU COULD JUST PARK RIGHT HERE? [02:30:01] >> EMPTY LOTS ON THE SEAWALL ESPECIALLY AND THEY WOULD BE PAYING THIS DOLLAR TEN PER CAR AS WELL. >> PARDON ME? >> THE LOTS ON THE SEAWALL LIKE 35TH STREET, >>NO. [INAUDIBLE] USED FOR LONG-TERM CRUISE PARTIES AND THOSE ARE SPECIAL. [OVERLAPPING] >> IF I COME HERE FOR MARDI GRAS AND I PARK FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. >> THOSE ARE SPECIAL USES LOTS AND WE GRANT SPECIAL PERMISSION. [OVERLAPPING] AND GUYS, THAT IS SOMETHING. >> WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT. >> WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE ANYWAY. >> THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO LAST YEAR. >> WE TRIED, BUT YOU KNOW IT IS JUST KIDS. >> LOVE THE SPECIAL EVENT PARKING THEY ARE NOT IMPROVING THAT SERVICE. >> YEAH. EXACTLY. >> IT'S NOT, IT DOES NOT HAVE. >> IT DID NOT COST ME ANYMORE TO DRAIN A LOT ON 35TH STREET BECAUSE HIS GRASS. >> AND DO WE HAVE ANY PROJECTIONS ON WHAT THIS MIGHT RING WITH LOOKING AT? THE NOSE EAR TO IT,. >> IT'S GOING TO BE OVER A MILLION,I THINK. >> AS THE BUSINESS GROWS. >> THAT'S WHY TO ME TO LOOK OVER THAT. [OVERLAPPING] >> LET ME SAY THIS GUY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PASS THIS IN IMMEDIATELY HAVE. >>I'LL SHOW YOU HOW. >> BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PARKING AREAS ARE PRE BOOKED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A GRADUAL RAMP UP IN THIS, YOU PROBABLY WON'T REALLY START REALIZING THE BULK OF THIS MONEY UNTIL NEXT YEAR SOMETIME ONCE WE PASS IT AND WE WERE WORKING WITH ALL AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THE OTHER THING WE'VE GOT TO WORK WITH GLENN ON BECAUSE THAT FIRST YEAR IS GONNA BE TOUGH. THAT IS WHY IT IS GOOD THAT HE CAN TIE IT BACK TO SALES TAX BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN SOMETHING OUT OF PLATE TO THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> NO. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A WHILE AND PARKING, ESPECIALLY THE OFFICER, KIDS [INAUDIBLE]. >> YOU WILL BE CHECKING WITH GLENN, YOU WILL BRING BACK A WRITTEN. IS YOUR THOUGHTS THAT HAVE IT FOR ACTION ITEM IF THE NEXT MEETING. >> WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY DO FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING IS WE WILL BRING IT BACK ON BOTH WORKSHOP AND ACTION SO THAT WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY DISCUSS IT WITH YOU AGAIN AND MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING YOU WANT IN IT AND IF IT'S GOOD, WE'LL PASS IT THAT AFTERNOON NOW WE CAN REFER TO MARCH. >> SOUNDS GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD WE ARE GOING TO THE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM [LAUGHTER] >> SIGN ME UP. [LAUGHTER] COME ON UP. LET'S SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY WHERE WE ARE WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM? >> YES, SIR. EXCUSE ME. OUR PROGRAM WILL BE THE COAST TEAM AND THAT'S STILL A MULTI-DISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM BUT THE MONOCHROME COAST, WHICH IS OPEN ACCESS TO SERVICES AND TREATMENT. THE TEAM WHERE WE'RE WORKING EVERY THURSDAY WHEN WE MEET WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE AND THEY WORK WITH US AND THE BENEFACTORS TO KEEP US MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE HOPE TO BE FULLY OPERATIONAL MARCH 1ST, THAT'S THE GOAL. GULF COAST CENTER HAS HIRED THEIR TWO CLINICIANS THAT WILL BE ON THE TEAM. WE HAVE SELECTED OUR TWO PERSONNEL THAT WILL BE ON THE TEAM AND FIRE IS WORKING. THEY WERE HAVING SOME CBA ISSUES THAT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT TO HIRE THEIR PERSONNEL THAT WILL BE OPERATIONAL FOR UPDATING THE VEHICLE, WE GOT WITH DAVID WORKING THROUGH THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. HIS FOUNDATION HAS DONATED A VEHICLE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL GET UP FITTED AND IT'S T'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY DO BECAUSE WE WANT IT FULLY UNMARKED. WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE BECAUSE WE HAVE CIVILIAN PERSONNEL ON IT BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SEE POLICE CAGES IN THE BACK, BUT TRYING TO FIT A HALF CAGE INTO THE BACK AND HAVE THAT FIT INTO THOSE SPECIFIC VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE IS WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT AND WE ARE CONFIDENT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG. >> REMEMBER I TOLD YOU GUYS THE HARDEST PART OF THIS MIGHT BE THE VAN AND LIVE IN TRUTH. >> I WANT TO FORMALLY THANK COUNCILMAN BOUVIER FOR HIS DONATION OF THE VEHICLE FOR THIS THIS PROGRAM. GOOD JOB. >> THANKS. >> GOOD. THANK YOU. >> I WAS IN HIS ACCOUNT THAT SIT UNFORESEEN DONATIONS [LAUGHTER]. >> YOU'D GET US THESE ODD MOMENTS. >> EXACTLY. >> IN MARCH MAYBE EVEN AFTER IT'S UP AND RUNNING FOR A MONTH OR SO, IT'D BE NICE TO GET A REPORT FROM YOU AND HOW THAT'S DOING IF WE COULD. >> CERTAINLY WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT AND WE CAN BRING THE TEAM IN AND I THINK WE'VE SELECTED TWO THAT ARE VERY COMPASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND THE PD. I THINK THAT ANYONE THAT WILL APPLY FOR THE POSITION AND FIRE IT WILL BE THE SAME. I THINK THAT THERE ARE TRULY ENGAGED AND [02:35:05] DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK AND SEEING THAT SOME SOCIAL SERVICES ARE PROVIDED TO THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT, IDENTIFYING THOSE AND MOVING IT FORWARD, WE'RE TYING UP LOOSE ENDS ON STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ALL THE STUFF. THAT'S TAKING SOME TIME, BUT WE'RE REAL CLOSE AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO [INAUDIBLE]. >> I WANT TO THANK THE TWO CHIEFS HAD BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS VERY HARD BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW IT'S EVERY POLICEMAN STREAM TO BE A FIREMAN. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING SO WELL TOGETHER ON THIS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE FIRST COLLABORATIONS THAT WE THROW OUT THERE, THE FLIP BETWEEN POLICE AND FIRE, WE CAN GET A LOT ACCOMPLISHED. I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT THAT THAN ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH IT. >> YES, DAVID. >> I JUST WANT A QUICK COMMENT. I'M JUST GOING TO COME INTO GROUPS IN MY DISTRICT TO TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF ISSUES. BUT WHEN I POST THIS ONE AT THE LAST MEETING, I WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IDEA, THIS COMMUNITY IS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD. >> IT IS OUR GOAL, TO KEEP THIS IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS PRETTY FREQUENTLY. BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE PUTTING UP MONEY FOR THIS. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO JUST KEEP HAVING BUDGET AMENDMENTS COME BEFORE YOU DON T KNOW IF YOU'RE SEEING WHY SO WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS IN LITTLE PIECES. SO EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO PUT MONEY INTO THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN GET AN UPDATE. >> I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A MONTHLY UPDATE BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO REITERATE THERE'S A FINE LINE. >> YES, I AGREE. >> BECOMING THE CENTER. >> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REPORT ON THE HOMELESSNESS SITUATION COMING UP IN FEBRUARY. >> FEBRUARY. WE'RE HOPING TO GET THE PIT COUNT WHICH IS HAPPENING TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN POINT TIME. >> THEY COUNT THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS ON THE ISLAND AND THROUGHOUT GALVESTON COUNTY HAS DONE STATEWIDE. >> WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF THAT? >> SHORT ZONE STREET? >> THEY ARE ALL OVER TODAY. THEY'RE AT ST. VINCENT HOUSE HERE AT OUR DAILY BREAD, THERE'RE SALVATION ARMY. >> I KNOW ALL THAT NOW. >> THERE AT ALL THE KNOWN SPOTS AND ALSO SOME PEOPLE IN KNOWN AREAS WHERE HOMELESS ARE LIVING AND THEN OF COURSE THEY'LL COLLECT THAT DATA TODAY. THEN THEY GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THEY DON'T DUPLICATE BECAUSE IT TAKES ALL DAY AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GUY WHO WAS AT THE CALENDAR AT MICHAEL GANGLIA IS PLACE IS NOT COUNTED IN OUR DAILY BREAD OR SOMEPLACE ELSE. THERE'LL BE A LITTLE FUN, BUT I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FOR YOU GUYS IN FEBRUARY SO WE CAN START GETTING OUR ARMS AROUND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE AND THEN WE CAN START TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PASS FORWARD. WHILE THIS UNIT IS GOING TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH LOTS OF OTHER THINGS TOO. IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THEY INTERACT IN DISTRESS SITUATIONS, EVEN WITH EVENTS AND OTHER THINGS. >> I'M MAKING COMMENTS, THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME AND WHAT I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE IN MY DISTRICT IS IT'S MORE YOU'RE DRAGGED OUT AT HOMELESS THAN YOU'RE LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD SEE DOWNTOWN YOUR REGULAR HOMELESS. IT'S A YOUNGER, THE TRANSIENT, SOMEBODY COMING OUT OF PRISON AND SOMEBODY TIED TO A GUY. WE'RE SEEING THAT DIFFERENT KIND OF HOMELESS. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS UNIT IS GOING TO BE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO PLUG INTO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE. SOMEBODY GETS ARRESTED, WE GET THEM IN JAIL, WE GET THEM LEVELED OUT, WE GET THE MEDICAID, THEY GET RELEASED. THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET THE MEDICINE ANYMORE. THEY GO BACK OFF THE MEDS OR OFF THE TREATMENT, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WEATHERED, DRUGS OR MENTAL OR WHATEVER, THEY CAN TAKE IT OFF THE REGIMEN AND THEN HERE WE GO AGAIN. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S LIKE A TORNADO. THEY DO USE ANALOGY, BUT IT SPINS UP TIGHTER BECAUSE EVERY TIME THEY COME BACK IN IT, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUS, A LITTLE BIT WORSE. THIS GROUP IS AN INTERCEPTOR AND NECK UNIT UNTIL WE CAN TRY TO INTERCEPT AND GET THEM MAYBE BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT AGAIN, AND JUST KEEP IN MIND, WE LOSE A LOT OF POLICE TIME TRANSPORTING PATIENTS TO HOUSTON. THIS UNIT IN AND OF ITSELF IS GOING TO HELP WITH THAT A LOT. BUT AGAIN, THE HEAT OF THAT IS THAT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO WORK. PART OF THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH, WITH HEY, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? HOW DID YOU GET HERE? NOT THAT THIS IS A HOMELESS UNIT AT ALL, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ASCERTAIN THAT TOO BECAUSE SOMETIMES I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GET RELEASED HERE AND HAVE NO WAY TO GET BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM. >> I AGREE. >> I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD SHOVE THE PEOPLE OFF THE ISLAND BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. BUT IF YOU GET RELEASED FROM JAIL, WE OUGHT TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME WAY TO GET YOU BACK TO YOUR HOME [02:40:02] OR YOUR FAMILY OR [NOISE] WHEREVER YOU MAY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON A LOT OF THAT. >> JOHN, THE PICK COUNT. IT HAS TO BE ORGANIZATION THAT SUPERVISES THAT HAS TO BE DENOTED BY HUD ON THE ISLAND HERE IS MARSHA RAPPAPORT THE HOMELESS COALITION HERE ON THE ISLAND HERE. AS BRIAN MENTIONED, WE'LL HAVE SOME DATA ON THIS HERE ON OUR NEXT MEETING. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD. CHIEF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> APPRECIATE IT. BRIAN, UPDATE ON THE MASTER GRANGE MEETING ON THE WEST END. I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT ALREADY. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> NO, NOT REALLY. WELL, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY FINAL. >> WE HAVE A NEW LUCK HERE. > IT'S GETTING A LITTLE COLD OUT THERE, ISN'T THAT? >> [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] >> NICE TIE. >> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO WEAR IT [BACKGROUND] >> YES. COUNCILWOMAN ROB WAS WANTING TO KNOW ABOUT A MEETING ON THE WEST END AND SO FORTH. >> YES. AFTER WE TALKED YESTERDAY I PUT IN A CALL TO THE CONSULTANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. ALSO I TALKED TO BRIAN YESTERDAY AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL VENUES AND WE FLOATED OUT THERE MAYBE FIRE STATION 7 WOULD BE A VERY GOOD LOCATION HERE. WE'RE STILL OPEN TO DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS. >> WE'RE GOING TO BE THE BETTER. IT'S BIGGER. >> FORCE IS HARDER TO ACCESS BECAUSE THE GATE WE ALL THAT STUFF AT THE AIRPORT BEFORE. WE'LL MAKE IT WORK WHERE WE WANT TO DO IT. >> NO, BUT WOULD IT BE WORTH CALLING JONATHAN AND SEE IF WE CAN GET MUDDY GARDEN. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS WELL. [OVERLAPPING] >> BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO DISTRICT 5 AS WELL AS DISTRICT 6. >> THANK YOU, MARIE. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. I GET A CALL FROM A LOT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. >> YEAH. >> RAISE YOUR VOICE NOW. GO AHEAD. [LAUGHTER] >> NO, THAT'S FINE. >> DID YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR TIME FRAME IN MIND AS WELL THAT WOULD WORK BETTER? >> THE SOONER THE BETTER SINCE WE'RE ALREADY IN THE MIX OF [OVERLAPPING] >> JUST DON'T DO IT IN THE MIDDLE OF MARDI GRAS THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. >> YEAH. NO. >> IN FACT TRY TO DO IT MAYBE THAT WEDNESDAY AFTER FAT TUESDAY. IT'S EVERYBODY'S LINTON PENANCES TO GO TO THIS FAT WEEK. [LAUGHTER] >> YEAH. I AGREE WITH BRIAN WE SAID IT SOMEWHERE MAKE IT AT 5:30 AT NIGHT. CALL ME I'LL BE GLAD TO CALL PEOPLE. I KNOW WHO HAS BIG ROOMS AND WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO LET US USE IT. >> YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. I'LL DEFINITELY REACH BACK OUT TO YOU. >> OKAY. >> ACROSS OUR LITTLE WAGONS WITH THE CONSULTANCY. >> LOOKS LIKE YOU CHANGED THE HAIR TOO. >> YEAH. I'M TRYING TO GET MORE HAIR BECAUSE IT'S SO COLD OUT THERE. I'M USED TO RUNNING AROUND IN SHORT AND FLIP FLOPS [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M JEALOUS. >> VERY GOOD. [LAUGHTER] >> YEAH, MIKE, WE MISSED OUT ON THAT. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU BRANDON. WE APPRECIATE. >> THANKS BRANDON. >> LAST UPDATE, STATUS UPDATE ON THE SKY MASTER ROAD. ABOUT LUNCH. >> WELL, MY PIGGY DAM. I HAVE TO ADMIT WHEN I VOTED FOR THIS I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED OR I THOUGH I WAS MISS DIRECTED AS TO EXACTLY WHAT BOAT RAMP WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. THIS BOAT RAMP IS A BOAT RAMP BY JONES ROAD IN THE BRIDGE THAT ENTERS INTO THE CANAL THAT FEEDS INTO LAKE MADELINE. SINCE THEN OR ACTUALLY PRIOR TO THEN I GUESS THEY STARTED PASSING IN PETITION BACK AT WHEN WE WERE DOING NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE SOUTH. [NOISE] BUT I THINK 78 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE IN LAKE MADELINE THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A PETITION. THEY ARE OPPOSED TO IT. THEY FEEL THAT IT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM THAT IT WOULD BE A NON MOTORIZED BOAT RAMP, AND IT'S A FULL MOTORIZED BOAT RAMP. FORTUNATELY, THE WAY IT WAS ON OUR RIGID AGENDA IT WAS FOR DESIGN AND ENGINEER AND I EXPRESSED TO THE CITY ALMOST IMMEDIATELY SO VERY LITTLE WORK HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS. WE'VE HAD IT ON HOLD. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT BACK BECAUSE OF ALL THE OPPOSITION TO THIS AND GET YOUR FEELINGS. MY ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE IS THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE WE'VE HAD SEWAGE ISSUES, OTHER LEAKING ISSUES THAT HAVE COME IN TO PLAY AND AFFECTED LAKE MADELINE AND IT HAS ALWAYS COME FROM THAT CANAL. [02:45:03] BECAUSE IN THAT CANAL WELL, ONE, YOU DO HAVE THE TIE END TO WHERE OUR WASTEWATER PLANT IS, BUT THEN THERE ALSO WAS A PERMIT THAT WAS DONE BY TECQ WHERE THE GRAY WATER FROM SLIT OR BOMB IS EMPTIED INTO THAT CANAL. BUT ANYWAY, SINCE I HAVE SO MANY CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA AND GET PEOPLE'S OPINIONS ON IT. >> JOHN. >> I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF THOSE SAME PEOPLE I'M SURE. THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM [INAUDIBLE] CRAIG, WAS IT FOR A FULLY MOTORIZED BOAT RAMP? >> INCLUSIVE OF KAYAK LAUNCHES? >> INCLUSIVE OF KAYAK. FULLY MOTORIZED [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF ME IS THIS BOAT RAMP HAVE A KAYAK LAUNCHING AND IT DOES. >> FROM WHAT I'M HEARING THEY DON'T THINK THAT GRANT WAS WRITTEN THAT WAY. >> THEY SAY THAT AND THEY PULLED UP [OVERLAPPING] >> TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE ONLY GIVES GRANTS FOR FULL SERVICE BOAT RAMPS. >> THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE MISLED BY, BECAUSE I GUESS BRIAN HAD DONE ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING, THEIR MINUTES, EVERYONE FELT THAT IT WAS SAID TO BE A NON MOTORIZED BOAT RAMP AND THAT'S WHAT THEIR CONCERN WAS ABOUT. >> BUT I DID TELL THEM IT WILL INCLUDE KAYAK LAUNCHES WHICH IS WHAT'S THEY WERE REQUESTING, YEAH. >> DAVID. >> WELL, FROM A DISTRICT LINE, I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE SUN. BUT YEAH, YOU CAN GET TO LAKE MEADOW FROM THERE. I REMEMBER THIS CAME UP. WEREN'T WE REPLACING? THERE IS A BOAT RAMP THERE. WHAT DID WE AGREED TO? >> IT WAS A BOAT RAMP IN AMAZON MAJOR WAY BOARD AT THE TIME. THERE WAS A BOAT RAMP IN HAVENFIELD AND THE CITY CAME IN THAT REALLY BELONGS TO THE HO A, BUT THE CITY CAME IN AND RECTIFIED THE BOAT AND TO KEEP OUR STREET FROM FALLING IN. TO DO IT MORE CHEAPLY, WE TOOK THE BOAT RAMP UP. [OVERLAPPING] BUT THERE WAS SOME OUTCRY THAT TIME TO THE HO A THAT, HEY, YOU'RE TAKING OUR BOAT RAMP AND WE SAID THE CITY WOULD GO WORKING AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK. >> WE ACTUALLY DID THAT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WE WENT BACK, THIS GOES BACK THREE COUNCIL OR FOUR COUNCIL TIMES AND WE SAID WE WOULD TRY TO WORK HARD TO GET ANOTHER BOAT RAMP OUT THERE IN THAT AREA. >> I REMEMBER THAT THEY WERE REPLACING ONE AND IT'S GOING TO GO ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> TO PROVIDE ACCESS OF THIS BUYER. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC'S MOTORIZED BOAT DRIVERS ARE GOING IN LAKE MADELINE, WHO'S GOING TO HELP US WITH LARGE-SCALE LAKE MADELINE? >> [OVERLAPPING] A LOT OF PEOPLE. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]. >> TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DOESN'T GIVE BUT IT WAS GOING TO INCLUDE THE KAYAK COMPONENT BECAUSE THAT WAS A REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> KIDS SAYING HI, BUT I HAVE [OVERLAPPING]. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED AND I KNOW COUNCIL ROB WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS UP HERE AND I WANT TO KNOW PROCEDURAL, JOHN AND DON, WE HAVE APPROVED THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING ON THIS. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HAS MONEY BEEN SPENT ON THIS? >> WE HAVE PUT THEM ON HOLD. IF THERE IS MONEY SPENT, IT'S VERY LITTLE. [OVERLAPPING] >> WALK US THROUGH THIS NOW PROCEDURAL, IF WE WANT TO PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA TO ADDRESS, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? >> I THINK IT WOULD BE, CANCEL THE PROJECT. >> EXCUSE ME. >> CANCEL THE PROJECT. >> OKAY. >> YOU RETURN THE GRANT TO THE STATE. >> YES, JOHN. >> CAN THE GRANT BE USED AT ANOTHER LOCATION? >> THEY'VE GIVEN US A SHORT WINDOW OF TIME TO RELOCATE IT BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SIMILAR CRITERIA AND SIMILAR LOCATION, THINGS LIKE THAT. >> ONCE IT'S LAID OUT THERE, GO FOR IT BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WILL FIND IT. >> THEN INCLUDE LAND ACQUISITION. >> MIKE. >> WHAT IS THEIR CONCERN? IS IT JUST BECAUSE THAT NOW THERE'S MOTORIZED BOATS GOING TO BE THERE? IS THAT THEIR ONLY CONCERN? >> I THINK THEIR MAIN CONCERN FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA AND LAKE MADELINE ALREADY HAS BAD WATER QUALITY AND THIS IS JUST GOING TO ADD TO THE ISSUE OF THE WATER QUALITY THERE. THE CITY IS TRYING TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS OUT THERE IN MADELINE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY WORK LIKE ISSUES IN LAKE MADELINE FOR A LONG TIME. [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT'S NOT A WATER QUALITY ISSUE, THAT'S A NATURAL ALGAE BLOOM THAT OCCURS. [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE REPORTS AT THE CITY BECAUSE SINCE WE PUT [02:50:02] THE SECOND SOLAR BE OUT THERE, WE HAVE NOT HAD THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES. >> FOR A WHILE THAT IT MOVED AGAINST THE THING AND IT TOOK THE CITY A LONG TIME WE COULD MOVE IT BACK AND SO FORTH. BUT LET'S JUST PUT IT THIS WAY. I WOULDN'T NEED TO FISH OUT THERE [LAUGHTER] >> WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT? [LAUGHTER] >> WHAT COUNCIL WOMAN ROB IS MENTIONING COUNCIL ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING IT BROUGHT BACK TO US TO CANCEL THIS PROJECT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT. >> IT'S MAINLY JUST IN-HOUSE STAFF TIME, WHICH WOULD NOT. WE CAN BUILD OUT AGAINST THE GRANT, BUT WE'RE NOT. IF WE BRING THIS BACK, COULD WE [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THAT TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER SPOT. UNFORTUNATELY, ALL OUR PROPERTY IS RIGHT THERE AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE PROPERTY ACQUISITION. >> HOW MUCH THE GRANT FOR? >> $500,000. >> FURTHER BACK. >> BACKWARD. >> FURTHER BACK ON THE PROPERTY. [OVERLAPPING]. >> I ALREADY TALKED TO JOHNSON ABOUT IT. HE'S VERY UPSET ABOUT IT. >> I HEARD FROM JOHN SAY THAT BOOK OUT. >> HE WANTS THE BOAT [LAUGHTER]. >> IF HE WANTS THE BOAT RAMP AND THEY DON'T WANT IT GOING IN THERE, MAYBE I CAN TALK TO HIM PUT IT BY WHERE THE MARINE IS. BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF WHAT HE WANTS IT FOR. >> I DIDN'T DISCUSS WITH YOU PUTTING IT OVER AFTER WEST PARKING LOT WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU A SAY. PROBLEM IS THAT IT RELEASES IT RIGHT INTO THE SAND BAR AND YOUR [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOUR DREDGE NUGGETS DON'T HAVE WATERED UP EARLY. >> NO. >> THIS DOES HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC VOTE, RYAN. >> YEAH. >> THE BACK PARKING LOT OF THAT. NOW I'M GOING TO TALK TO HIM [OVERLAPPING]. >> THOUGH HE MAY SAY IT'S FINE, THE ISSUE IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A BOAT OUT OF THERE. >> NO. BY THE MARINA? WHY ARE YOU BRINGING BOATS IN? >> WELL, HE TALKED BETWEEN THE TWO PEERS? >> SOMEWHERE BACK THERE. >> AS SOON AS YOU GET OUTSIDE THE TWO PEERS, IT GETS [OVERLAPPING]. >> DO WE HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT AT THE END OF HER HERTZ LINE THAT GOES INTO THE WATER? >> THE RIGHT-OF-WAY STOPS BEFORE [OVERLAPPING]. >> DO WE HAVE ANY HISTORICAL DATA WHEN THAT BOAT RAMP WAS WORKING, HOW MUCH CAPACITY WAS BEING OUT OF THERE? >> OH GOOD GOD. MIKE, THE BOAT RAMP IT'S THERE'S PROBABLY 60, 70 YEARS OLD. WE CLOSED IT JUST MAINLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER FACILITIES HERE AND PEOPLE WERE DRAGGING THEIR BOATS UP AND IT WAS AN ISSUE WHEN THE RENTAL COMPANY WAS THERE. ACTUALLY THE BOAT RAMP THERE, TERRIBLE SHAPE WHEN I LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LOT OF PEOPLE USED THE BOAT RAMP. WE SINCE DROPPED A POLL ACROSS IT JUST TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THERE. I PULLED MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS BOATS OUT THERE. >> THE PEOPLE AT LAKE MADELINE DON'T SEE THAT AS A BENEFIT FOR THEM TO GET THEIR BOATS IN AND OUT, THEIR SKIS AND STUFF LIKE THAT WHEN THEY HAVE TO WIN HER EYES AND THAT THEY GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO [OVERLAPPING]. >> AS I SAID 72 SIGNED PETITION AGAINST THEM. >> I LOOKED INTO PETITION BECAUSE I LIVED THERE 20 YEARS. IT'S PRIMARILY ALMOST ALL WATERFRONT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE AGAINST IT. THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF DRY LOT ON YOUR SON THERE. >> THERE WAS A LOT OF DRY [OVERLAPPING]. >> A COUPLE. NOT MANY. >> WELL, THERE IS A SECOND PORTION TO THE THIRD. >> I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. >> I'LL GET IT OVER TO YOU. >> OKAY. MARIE, YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. LET'S GET TO SEE WANT TO BRING THAT FORWARD? >> ALSO PUT MY THINKING CAP ONLINE. [OVERLAPPING] >> THERE ARE NEW PUMP STATION. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]. >> HE'S GOT TO BE REALLY SHORT BOATS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE BRIDGE. >> THAT'S TRUE. I'M JUST [OVERLAPPING]. >> LET IT STAY RIGHT IN THAT LITTLE CODE. >> RELAX RIGHT IN THERE. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]. >> COUNCIL LETS MOVE ON THEN. WE HAVE ITEM 3F PLEASE JANELLE. [3.F. Report Of City Council's Park Board Representative (Bouvier/Brown - 10 Minutes)] >> 3F. REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF [BACKGROUND]. >> COUNCILMAN THOUGHTS COMMENTS. >> WE HAD OUR MEETING LAST TUESDAY. UNFORTUNATELY, WE LOST A REALLY GOOD PERSON OFF THE BOARD. MR. WILL WRIGHT HAD RESIGNED. THAT MAKES A TOTAL OF THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS. >> I'M SORRY. THIRD PERSON? >> MICHAEL WOODY. >> OH, YOU'RE TALKING EMPLOYEES AS WELL. >> THAT'S ONE THING THAT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK AHEAD. THEY REALLY APPRECIATED THE JOINT EFFORT WITH THOSE LOSE OR THE PORTA POTTIES. [02:55:06] THEY LIKED THE IDEA OF THE MASTER PLAN ON THE BEACH WALL THERE OR THE SEAWALL. BUSINESS AS USUAL, IS THERE PLUGGING AHEAD WITH THE BEACH SAND OVER THERE. THEY'RE 70 PERCENT DOWN. THEY HAVE 30 PERCENT LEFT. [OVERLAPPING]. LOT OF TRUCKS. PLACEMENT WAS PAID WELL, IT SEEMED PRETTY EFFICIENT. [BACKGROUND] [INAUDIBLE] BEACH NEAR YOU. >> THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE. THE FINDWAYS, WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S IS GOING AHEAD. >> THE WAYFINDING. >> THE WAYFINDING, YES, SIR. THEY ARE FINISHING UP THE ART EXHIBIT, THE RECYCLED ART EXHIBIT, AND THAT'S BEEN GOING REALLY WELL AROUND THE ISLAND. >> WHEN DOES THAT END? >> INTO JANUARY, I ASSUME. >> YEAH, SO END OF THIS MONTH. >> IT'S COOL. >> IT IS DOING QUITE WELL. >> LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THAT. >> ANYTHING ELSE? GREAT WORKING WITH EVENTS OVER THERE. [OVERLAPPING] VERY GOOD TO HEAR. [OVERLAPPING] ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? >> NO. >> ITEM 3G, PLEASE. [3.G. Report Of City Council's Wharves Board Representative (Brown - 10 Minutes)] >> 3G, REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL'S WHARVES BOARD REPRESENTATIVE. >> BRINGING YOU GREETINGS FROM THE WHARVES BOARD, A LOT GOING ON ON THERE. FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, THE WHARVES BOARD HAS PUT ATTENTION TO TAKING THE NET PROFITS FROM THE CRUISE INDUSTRY OVER THERE AND IMPROVING THE CARGO AREA. THAT IS MOVING ALONG RIGHT AS WE SPEAK. THEY HAVE PROJECTED A $58 MILLION GROSS REVENUE BUDGET FOR '23. THERE ARE PROJECTING ABOUT 354 SAILINGS OF CRUISE SHIPS COMING IN FOR THIS COMING YEAR. FOR THIS COMING YEAR, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF ATTENTION TO REPAIRING PIERS FROM THIS EXCESS MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM THE CRUISE LINES AND TO SLIP FILLS. THE SLIP FILLS WOULD BE AT PIER 38, I SHOULD SAY, AND PIERS 40, 41. THEY'LL BE PUTTING ATTENTION TO SLIP FILLS. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF CHANGES OVER THERE AT THE BOARD AS FAR AS INCREASING THE CARGO CAPACITY OVER THERE. THEY'RE PUTTING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE MOSQUITO FLEET AREA OVER THERE. THEY WOULD BE DOING $600,000 OF PIER REPAIRS OVER THERE, STARTING HERE VERY SHORTLY. IT'S POSSIBLY ALREADY STARTED. WE WILL BE POSSIBLY ALLOCATING MORE MONEY FOR UPDATING OF THAT MOSQUITO FLEET AREA, WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, AS YOU MAY KNOW, A HISTORIC LANDMARK AREA. >> IT'S HISTORIC. >> YES, IT IS. > FOR THE CITY THERE. >> IT'S ACTUALLY A COOL PLACE TO VISIT. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT. IT'S REALLY A COOL THING. >> IT'S REALLY COOL TO WALK OUT THERE. [OVERLAPPING]. >> VERY COOL. >> IF YOU LOVE THE SMELL OF FISH. [LAUGHTER] >> [OVERLAPPING] YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE PAPER, THE WHARVES BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A DOCUMENT, AN MOU, WITH MSC, TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING A FOURTH CRUISE TERMINAL IN THE LOCATION WHERE DEL MONTE IS. THAT'S AROUND PIER 16, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. DEL MONTE HAD A LEASE THERE, THAT WAS A LONG-TERM LEASE. DEL MONTE APPROACHED THE PORT A COUPLE OF YEARS OR THREE, FOUR BACK AND ASKED THAT THEIR LEASE BE SHORTENED. THEIR LEASE EXPIRES IN '24 OVER THERE. THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT LEAVING THEN, AND THAT'S THE AREA THAT THIS FOURTH CRUISE TERMINAL, IF IT CAME ABOUT, WOULD OCCUR. MSC IS PARTNERING WITH NORWEGIAN CRUISE LINES. IF A FOURTH CRUISE TERMINAL WINDS UP BEING BUILT THERE, WHICH WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE WHARVES BOARD AND ON THE AGENDA HERE FOR CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, IT WOULD BE A CRUISE TERMINAL FOR THOSE TWO ENTITIES. THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THE ENTIRE BILL FOR EVERYTHING IF THIS FOURTH CRUISE TERMINAL HAPPENED. THAT'S DOWN THE LINE. WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND OTHER ISSUES. THERE IS NO COMMITMENT TO DO A FOURTH CRUISE TERMINAL. THIS MOU WITH MSC IS JUST TO EXPLORE THE IDEA IF THERE'S EVEN A POSSIBILITY TO THAT. THE INTERNAL ROAD DOWN THERE, [03:00:02] WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. SLOWLY, BUT SURELY, THAT'S COMING INTO FRUITION, AND HOPEFULLY, IN ABOUT A YEAR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TURN AT 33RD STREET LEFT, GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PIER 10 ON THE INTERNAL ROAD THERE. PUTTING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THAT. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION, BRIAN AND I HAD A MEETING WITH THE PORT OF HOUSTON ROGER GUENTHER, AND HE BROUGHT HIS COO OVER WITH HIM. WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM ABOUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF PELICAN ISLAND. THE PORT HAS BEEN WANTING TO DO THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. [NOISE] LONG STORY SHORT, MR. GUENTHER SAID TWO THINGS TO US. ONE IS HE HAS THE GO-AHEAD FROM HIS BOARD TO START MOVING AHEAD WITH NEGOTIATIONS, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE FOR DEVELOPING PELICAN ISLAND. SECONDLY, HE'S OPEN TO GETTING INPUT FROM A STAKEHOLDERS GROUP, AND WE HAVE PUT A TENTATIVE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP TOGETHER, CONSISTING OF PORT REPRESENTATIVE, CITY REPRESENTATIVES, AND COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES TO TALK MORE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH A POSSIBLE MASTER PLAN FOR THE PELICAN ISLAND AREA. MR. GUENTHER IS OPEN, HE'S ANXIOUS TO HEAR BACK FROM THIS TASK FORCE AND SEE WHERE WE CAN GO. WE ASKED HIM RIGHT OUT, WOULD YOU SELL THE PROPERTY? HE SAID, WE'RE OPEN TO SELL THIS PROPERTY. HOW MUCH THAT IS AND WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THAT, BUT HE IS QUITE OPEN. >> NOW, BUT IT'S A BIG KEY THING TO THE PORT [OVERLAPPING] >> EVERYTHING'S FOR SALE. [OVERLAPPING] >> I THINK SO TOO. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] IT'S ALREADY OFF THE TAX ROLL. I'D MUCH RATHER BE IN CONTROL OF THE FUTURE OF THAT PROPERTY THAN HOUSTON. [OVERLAPPING] >> I AGREE. >> [OVERLAPPING] BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT I AM ENLIGHTENED THAT THEY'RE STILL WILLING TO [OVERLAPPING] WORK WITH US. >> THEY'RE WHAT? >> [OVERLAPPING] I FEEL GREAT THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, IF WE [OVERLAPPING] DON'T BUY IT. >> [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS OVER THERE. A&M IS ONE PART OF THAT PROPERTY TO OVER THERE. WE'LL BE VISITING WITH A&M ON THIS. [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M NOT SURE, IT'S INDUSTRIAL LAND, BUT AS WE TALKED EARLIER, THERE'S PIECES OF THAT LAND THAT REALLY DON'T FUNCTION WELL IN THAT. WHO KNOWS THAT COULD BE THE NEXT BASTION OF SOME MIXED DEVELOPMENT OF SOME OTHER THINGS. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY OVER THERE AND THEY ARE OPEN TO DISCUSS ANY AND ALL OF IT FROM SALE TO DEVELOPMENT. >> I GOT THE FEELING FROM THE MEETING THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. >> I GET THE FEELING THEY WANT TO SUBLET THIS PROPERTY. >> YEAH. >> WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT AND THE PORT IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT, AS I MENTIONED, AND THE COUNTY. >> THEY'RE NOT WORRIED AT ALL ABOUT THE PORT OF GALVESTON COMPETING AGAINST THEM, THEY ARE NOT. >> WE EVEN FLOATED THE IDEA IF WE HAD A LEASE OR IF WE BOUGHT THE LAND, IF THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD EVEN EXCLUDE THE [OVERLAPPING] CONTAINERS OVER THERE. ROGER GUENTHER SAID, I'LL BE HONEST, GALVESTON IS SO SMALL, IT DON'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO THERE, DON'T BOTHER US ONE BIT. >> WE'VE GOT OUR NIBS, THEY'VE GOT THEIRS. >> ANYWAY, VERY GOOD. WELL, THAT'S IT. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS. IT IS 12:01 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >> GREAT ONE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.