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[Building Board of Adjustment and Appeals on December 6, 2022.]
AND ATTENDANCE.I'M SORRY. TODAY IS DECEMBER SIX, 2022, AND THE TIME IS 9:08 A.M.
ERNIE WELDON. MICHAEL GARTNER.
LARRY RYAN.[INAUDIBLE].IS THERE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST? NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
ELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT OFF TO THE NEXT MEETING.
WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE SWORN IN BY COUNCIL.
SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE EVERYBODY HERE THAT MIGHT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR.
WE NEED TO GET A MOTION ON THAT? DONNA. NO. OKAY.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES, THERE IS NONE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM F REQUEST TO ADDRESS COMMISSION ON AGENDA AND NON AGENDA ITEMS. THEY'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES MAXIMUM PER SPEAKER.
TINA, DID WE GET ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYONE THAT WANTED TO ADDRESS THE BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS? AND THAT IS A NO.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM G REVIEW AND CONSIDER FOR ACTION INTERNATIONAL CODE MATERIALS AND LOCAL AMENDMENTS PRESENTED TO IT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE FOLLOWING INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE AND AMENDMENTS OR AMENDMENTS AND A NATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE, EXISTING BUILDING CODE, INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND A NATIONAL POOL AND SPA.
INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE.
INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE AMENDMENTS AND BBA UPDATE LANGUAGE LEGAL.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW.
THE PROSPECT OF LESSENING KARST CATASTROPHE, CATASTROPHE RELATED DAMAGE, AND ULTIMATELY LOWERING INSURANCE COSTS PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE FOR COMMUNITIES TO ENFORCE THE BUILDING CODES RIGOROUSLY, ESPECIALLY AS THEY RELATE TO WINDSTORM.
THE ANTICIPATED BENEFITS, SAY, FOR BUILDINGS LESS DAMAGE AND LOWER INSURED LOSSES FROM CATASTROPHES.
THE ISO BUILDING CODE EFFECTIVENESS GRADING SCHEDULE PROGRAM ASSESSES A COMMUNITY COMMUNITY'S BUILDING CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THREE AREAS CODE ADMINISTRATION PLAN, REVIEW AND FIELD INSPECTION.
A HEAVY EMPHASIS IS PLACED ON THE CITY HAVING THE MOST UP TO DATE CODES ADOPTED TO SCORE WELL ON THE CODE ADMINISTRATION PORTION OF THE PROGRAM.
THE DEPARTMENT SCORES IMPROVED, BOTH RESIDENTIALLY 6 TO 5 AND COMMERCIALLY 5 TO 4.
WE ARE CURRENTLY PRESENTING THE FOLLOWING CODE UPDATES FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION BY THE BOARD.
THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE.
2021 INTERNATIONAL POOL AND SPA CODE.
THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE.
2021. INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CODE.
2021. INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE 2021.
INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE 2021 INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE.
WE HAVE ALSO MADE MODIFICATIONS TO ACCOMPANY THE CITY ORDINANCES ADOPTING EACH CODE AS WE CURRENTLY ADOPTED THE 2012 INTERNATIONAL CODES. TO PREPARE FOR THE CODE UPDATE.
STAFF REVIEW THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE 2015 AND 2018 AND ULTIMATELY THE 2021 CODES.
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WE ALSO ATTEMPTED TO SIMPLIFY THE WORDING IN ORDINANCES, REMOVE REDUNDANCIES, OUTDATED PROVISIONS AND AMENDMENTS.THE SCOPE OF THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE PERTAINS TO COMMERCIAL MECHANICAL SYSTEMS. ONLY RESIDENTIAL MECHANICAL SYSTEMS ARE COVERED UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.
WE SOUGHT INPUT FROM LOCAL ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS AND CONTRACTORS IN UPDATING THE CHAPTER TEN, CHAPTER 21, CHAPTER 30, AND LOCAL AMENDMENTS FOR ISSUES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE COASTAL REGION.
WE MADE NO MODIFICATIONS TO THE FEE SCHEDULES AS WE INTEND TO COMPREHENSIVELY UPDATE.
ALL FEES EARLY NEXT YEAR ACROSS SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS.
WE ALSO DID NOT MODIFY THE FLOOD PREVENTION ORDINANCE AS THIS WAS RECENTLY UPDATED AND ASSESSED ANNUALLY AND REQUIRES APPROVAL FROM FEMA.
PLUMBING CODE. THE SCOPE OF THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE PERTAINS TO COMMERCIAL PLUMBING SYSTEMS. RESIDENTIAL PLUMBING SYSTEMS ARE COVERED UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.
THE SCOPE OF THE INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CODE PERTAINS PRIMARILY TO COMMERCIAL FUEL GAS SYSTEMS. RESIDENTIAL FUEL GAS SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN DERIVED FROM THE INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CODE, YET COVERED UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, POOL AND SPA CODE. THE SCOPE OF THE INTERNATIONAL POOL AND SPA CODE COVERS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL INSTALLATIONS.
THE SCOPE OF THE INTERNATIONAL PART OF THE BUILDING CODE, THE SCOPE OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE PERTAINS TO COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION AND RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION THAT DOES NOT FALL WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE RESIDENTIAL CODE.
ALL OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS FALL UNDER THE BUILDING CODE, THE INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CODE.
THE SCOPE OF THE INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE PERTAINS TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ENERGY SYSTEMS. THIS COVERS THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, MECHANICAL SYSTEMS SERVICE, WATER HEATING AND INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS AS THEY APPLY TO THE ENERGY CONSERVATION EXISTING BUILDING CODE.
THE SCOPE OF THE INTERNATIONAL EXISTING BUILDING CODE PERTAINS TO REMODELS AND ADDITIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BUILDING PROJECTS. IT APPROVES FLEXIBILITY FOR EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING CODES DO NOT.
RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ADOPTION OF THE 2021 CODES AND UPDATE TO CHAPTER 1021 AND 30 AND LOCAL AMENDMENTS OF THE CITY CODE TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ALL CODES PRESENTED AND ORDINANCE MODIFICATIONS.
THAT CONCLUDES STAFF REPORT, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
I THINK THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF A LONG TIME COMING AT THIS MEETING.
YOU KNOW, AS DAVID SAID, WE PREVIOUSLY, THIS WAS THE SECOND TIME WE BROUGHT THIS THROUGH.
WE BROUGHT IT THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT WAS FEBRUARY, AT WHICH TIME THE BBA REQUESTED THAT WE SEEK TO CONFER WITH LOCAL ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, CONTRACTORS, WHICH WE DID. WE TWEAKED WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD BASIC CODE ADOPTION.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
THANK YOU. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
SO BEFORE WE GET INTO THE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE A PRETTY LONG AGENDA.
SO. AND MY NAME IS DONNA FAIRWEATHER.
I'M SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW ME.
AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE CODES, WE START WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
IS THAT OKAY WITH THE BOARD? SURE. YES. SO THE FIRST ONE ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS TO KNOCK OUT SOME OF THE EASIER ONES LIKE INTERNATIONAL POOL AND SPA, I THINK THAT'S JUST A STRAIGHT ADOPTION.
I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY CHANGES TO THAT.
IT'S UP TO YOU. I MAY SHORTEN THE AGENDA, BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FIRST.
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SO DURING THE PROCESS THAT YOU ALL WENT THROUGH OF LOOKING AT THE CODES AND TALKING TO SOME OF THE USERS, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION GIVEN ABOUT THE ENERGY CODE IN THAT THE STATE HAS THROUGH THE STATE ENERGY CONSERVATION OFFICE ADOPTED? I BELIEVE THEY'RE NOW ON 2015 IPCC.RIGHT. AND WE WOULD BE GOING TO 21.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT. PAST FOUR YEARS.
CORRECT. YOU CAN GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.
WE JUST CAN'T BE ON THE 12 OR THE NINE OR THE SIX.
SURE. AND DO YOU FEEL DO YOU FEEL THIS STAFF AND THE FOLKS THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO, DOES EVERYBODY FEEL GOOD ABOUT ADOPTING THE 2021 SEC? YES.
OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE HAD ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ALLOWING SOME TIME BETWEEN WHEN THE CODE IS ADOPTED, MAYBE A PERIOD OF OVERLAP WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE PLANS IN MY OFFICE THAT ARE IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW. AND OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN USING THE 2012 CODE.
I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND START OVER.
THE 2021 CODE IS SO DIFFERENT.
I'D HAVE TO MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES.
IT'D BE NICE IF THERE COULD BE A TRANSITION PERIOD WHERE WE COULD SUBMIT UNDER EITHER CODE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, SAY 90 DAYS, OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
AND WE HAVE SPOKEN IN PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE FOR PROBABLY THE GOOD PART OF THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, THAT WE'RE CHANGING THESE 21 CODES NOW.
IN THE PAST, WE'VE BEEN ACCEPTING.
SO WE'VE BEEN ACCEPTING 15, 18, 21 CODES, EVEN THOUGH WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS.
IN PREPARATION. UM, WE HAVEN'T SPOKE ABOUT GIVING A GRACE PERIOD ON THAT YET.
OKAY. I JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
YEAH. AND I'M JUST GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS OF THIS AS WELL, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL SHED A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT ON A TRANSITION PERIOD.
THIS BOARD WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THAT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, IF THERE ARE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE END OF THIS MEETING TODAY, WOULD BE JANUARY.
CITY COUNCIL WOULD REVIEW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
TYPICALLY WITH ORDINANCES WE DO HAVE ONCE IT'S ADOPTED AND PUBLISHED THERE, IN EFFECT.
BUT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH ORDINANCES OF THIS TYPE AND OR ORDINANCES THAT HAVE PENALTY PROVISIONS ATTACHED TO IT, THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRANSITION. YOU HAVE TO LET THE PUBLIC BECOME AWARE OF THE CHANGES.
AND THEN SOMEBODY SAYS, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO THE WORK OF THIS BOARD WILL ALSO WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS PERSONS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL SO THAT THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE, PEOPLE THAT COME HERE SHOULD BE FULLY AWARE THAT THEIR CHANGES TO THE CODE.
AND SO IT'LL BE POSTED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY'LL BE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL IS AN OPEN MEETING.
AND SO THE AGENDA WILL BE POSTED FOR ALL TO SEE.
DONNA. I THINK THAT THE MOST PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE AWARE OF THE CHANGES TO THE CODE IS WHEN THEY GET RED TAGGED BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT ONE WAY AND NOW THEY GOT TO DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION OF THE 2021 ICC FAMILY OF CODES IS PRESENTED BY STAFF WITH THE AMENDMENTS WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THERE BE A SIX MONTH TRANSITION PERIOD WHEREBY ARCHITECTS, CONTRACTORS AND FOLKS WHO ARE SEEKING BUILDING PERMITS CAN USE EITHER THE CURRENT 2012 CODE OR THE
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2021 CODE, AND THAT AFTER THAT TIME ALL WORK MUST COMPLY WITH THE 2021 BUILDING CODES.NOW, I APPRECIATE THAT MOTION.
HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE MOTION.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD THE STAFF REPORTS FOR THE ICC FAMILY OF CODES, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
IT HASN'T BEEN SECONDED YET BECAUSE I JUMPED IN.
SOMEBODY CAN ALWAYS SECOND IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THE RIGHT POINT IN THE MEETING FOR THAT.
BUT THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND IT CAN BE SECONDED.
IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY, SO NOT HERE.
AND WE'RE SEEING A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.
BUT AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF US BEING HERE TODAY IS TO GO THROUGH THESE CODES.
AND ONCE WE START DOING A CHECK MARK, CHECK, CHECK.
THAT MOTION CAN BE MADE AT THE END OF THE MEETING IF IT'S STILL NECESSARY.
OUR STAFF REPORT COVERED ALL OF THEM.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE BECAUSE IT'S LISTED.
SO IF IT'S JUST A STATEMENT THAT YOU RECEIVED IN ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, THEN WE'LL GO FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, TO HIS QUESTION, THE ISO RATING.
IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT US IF WE PUT THAT OR CHANGE THAT DATE LIKE SIX MONTHS? BECAUSE IT SAID FEBRUARY WE HAD TO DO IT WITHIN A YEAR.
IS THAT GOING TO IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OUR RATING BY ALLOWING 2012? AND HE SAID, WHEN WE TALK TO THE ISO, TIM AND I DISCUSSED WITH THE ISO GUY AND HE SAID IT ENDS UP REGRESSING AND WE CAN STILL WE JUST HAVE TO GO AND DO AN.
SO IT WOULD BE A REGRESSION TO A DOUBLE LINE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE.
PERMANENT. IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ADJUST ONCE WE GOT THERE.
IF WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT ONE YEAR, WHICH I BELIEVE IS JANUARY.
SO IN TERMS OF AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW MANY MEMBERS HERE HAVE BEEN ON A BOARD BEFORE, BUT WHEN A MOTION IS MADE AND SECONDED, THERE'S A PERIOD OF DISCUSSION AND ALL THOSE POINTS OF, HEY, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE ISO OR COULD AFFECT THE ISO OR IT WILL AFFECT THE ISO.
I DON'T KNOW IF SIX MONTHS IS TOO LONG A PERIOD, MAYBE THREE MONTHS.
ALL THOSE TYPES OF COMMENTS ARE FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS.
JUST BECAUSE OF MOTIONS MADE DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S SET IN STONE.
I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
JUST BECAUSE WE VOTE ON SOMETHING, DOES THAT MEAN IT GOES INTO EFFECT AS AN ORDINANCE? IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION AND THE COUNCIL IS THE ONE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FINALIZE THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND HE KIND OF ANSWERED MY SECOND QUESTION.
I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE SIX MONTH INTERFERING WITH OUR RANKING AS WELL.
SO DO YOU WANT US TO START OFF WITH EACH ONE? JUST BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE AGENDA? YOU JUST WANT TO GO DOWN THE LIST AND OR THE FIRST ONE WILL BE THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING.
SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ADOPTION.
EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? QUESTION THAT YOU SHOT ME AN EMAIL WHERE YOU SHOT ME EMAIL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I THOUGHT YOU DONE ABOUT IT.
IT HAD TO DO WITH THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THOSE UNNECESSARY TENDENCIES THAT WERE IN THERE.
ONE, I THINK WAS HAS TO DO WITH SEISMIC.
THE SEISMIC THAT DIDN'T REALLY APPLY.
THE OTHER ONE WAS COVERED BY THE TOPS.
TLR COVERS ACCESSIBILITY, WHICH WAS ANOTHER DIDN'T JUST BE RESIDENTIAL CODE, ONE OF THESE? YEAH, THOUGHT I CHANGED IT.
THAT WAS SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE], I DIDN'T MENTION IT, BUT WHEN YOU AND I WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO WERE PRIVY TO THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION.
BUT YEAH, WE WERE WANTING TO WORK WITH ALSO REMOVING THOSE TWO UNNECESSARY TESTS.
SO IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL WORDS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY NEEDED.
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ZERO, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION IS GOING TO GO TO ZERO.SO THE TWO THOSE TWO CAN EITHER BE REMOVED OR LEFT IN.
IT'S REALLY NOT IT'S NO SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCE.
MOTION? I'LL MOVE FOR THE BOARD RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.
HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. DISCUSSION.
THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, AS A POINTED JUST AS A POINT OF INTEREST, THAT WE SEE IT BOTH IN THE RESIDENTIAL CODE AND IN THE FUEL GAS CODE THAT COMMERCIAL COOKING APPLIANCES ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
YEAH, THAT DEFINITION ITSELF CAN BE A MATTER OF INTERPRETATION.
SO. YOU KNOW, BUSINESS IS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, BUT IT ISN'T NECESSARILY A COMMERCIAL OR A COMMERCIAL APPLIANCE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SO THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE SPIRIT OF THAT LAW, I THINK.
I'LL MOVE THAT THE BOARD RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.
WE GOT A MOTION FROM MR. GERTNER. WE HAVE A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON THE COMMENT FROM MR. GERTNER. DO WE NEED A DEFINITION FOR COMMERCIAL APPLIANCES? I MEAN, IS IT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT TO KEEP US FROM HAVING MORE ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD IN THESE BOARD MEETINGS FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO CONTEST THAT, THAT MIGHT BE IN ORDER TO DEFINE COMMERCIAL IN THAT SETTING IN AN INTERNATIONAL IN THE RESIDENTIAL CODE, WHETHER THAT'S TO BE SET FORTH BY THEM, BY THE MANUFACTURER OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW. WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS IT BASED ON BTU OR IS IT JUST SAY SOMETHING VERY GENERAL.
SO HOW WOULD HOW WOULD THAT BE ENFORCED HERE IF IT'S NOT DEFINED? USUALLY IN THOSE CASES, IT'S TO INTERPRET AN INTERPRETATION OF THE INSPECTOR.
WE CAN HAVE SOME HIGH END FOLKS HERE.
MR. WISER, GO AHEAD. I CAN PERSONALLY SEE WHERE THAT CAN BE KIND OF AN ISSUE MYSELF.
I ACTUALLY AM KIND OF IN THAT, I GUESS THAT LANE, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, AS FAR AS THE LEVEL OF HOMES THAT I BUILD IN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE TYPES OF APPLIANCES THAT WILL GO IN THERE.
SO I THINK SOME SORT OF A DEFINITION EXPLAINING THAT TO, I GUESS, THE INSPECTORS OR THE INSPECTION DEPARTMENT MOVING FORWARD TO WHERE THERE'S A CLEAR LINE DRAWN OF WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT, I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH MR. MANN THAT CAN PUT SOME PRETTY STICKY SITUATIONS OUT THERE.
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SO WITH THAT, CAN WE GET SOME THOUGHTS ON BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.YEAH, I THINK I AGREE WITH TODD THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REALLY ADDRESS TODAY BECAUSE IT CAN GET VERY LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S NOT JUST LET'S SAY IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT JUST A COOKSTOVE, BUT IS IT COMMERCIAL? THEN SOMEBODY USES THAT DEFINITION AND TRIES TO APPLY IT TO A REFRIGERATOR.
IT'S SPECIFIC TO COMMERCIAL GAS COOKING.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FUEL CODE.
YEAH, WELL, IT'S IN RESIDENTIAL CODE TWO IS IN RESIDENTIAL CODE AS WELL AS IN BOTH PLACES.
EXACTLY. DOES IT SOUND LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF NEEDS TO BRING A DEFINITION BACK AND YOU CAN ADOPT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE WITH THE PROVISO THAT COMMERCIAL GAS COOKING OR COMMERCIAL GAS COOKING DEFINITION IS ALSO PROVIDED OR CAN BE REVIEWED AT THE NEXT MEETING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M FINE. WE'RE REVIEWING IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THAT'LL GIVE US TIME TO DISCUSS IT.
WHAT WAS THE SENATOR THE GENTLEMAN HERE IN THE CENTER? WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? MIKE.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT TO BRING UP.
REGARDING COMMERCIAL DEFINITION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WHY DON'T WE JUST HOLD OFF ON THIS FOR A FEW MINUTES? LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND THE CITATION AND THE RESIDENTIAL CODE.
MAYBE WE COULD GO ON TO THE NEXT CODE AND CIRCLE BACK TO THIS.
IF I CAN FIND WE'LL COME BACK TO EXACTLY WHAT THE DEFINITION IS.
YOU CAN AMEND THAT MOTION BY SAYING WE'LL ADOPT IT WITH THE PROVISO THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS JUST THE COMMERCIAL GAS COOKING SIDE SO YOU CAN STILL GO FORWARD AND ADOPT IT, BUT BRING BACK THAT SUBJECT MATTER LATER, OR YOU CAN WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND DEFER THE WHOLE I.R.S.
TOPIC. SO I MEAN, THERE ARE OPTIONS HERE, BUT THERE IS AN ACTIVE MOTION TO ADOPT THE I.R.S.
HOW ABOUT TO CAN I AMEND MY MOTION? YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.
OR YOU JUST WANT TO TABLE IT THEN.
YEAH, THE ONE TABLE IT TABLE THE MOTION UNTIL WE'VE LOOKED AT THE OTHER CODES.
AND MAYBE BY THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR CODE.
THAT'S FINE. IT CAN JUST BE TABLED UNTIL LATER.
YEAH. WE NEED TO HAVE IT ACCEPTABLE TO THE SECOND.
THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO ME AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM C.
THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL CONSERVATION CODE TO HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
I'LL MOVE THE BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
ADOPTION. WHAT ARE WE ON THE FIRE CODE? IPCC 2021, INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE.
I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MR. WELDON AND ANY DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. IT'S UNANIMOUS.
WE GO TO ITEM D? THE 2021 EXISTING BUILDING CODE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE 2021 EXISTING BUILDING.
BUILDING CODE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UNANIMOUS. ACADEMY 2021 INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
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COME BACK TO THAT OR WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT.WE HAVE STAFF IS READY TO GO FORWARD WITH THE WOMEN'S CODE.
YES, I'M WITH YOU IF YOUR ESPECIALLY SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES WITH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND HOPEFULLY THE BOARD WAS ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE REMOVED SOME OF THESE SECTIONS FROM THE BUILDING CODE AND PUT THEM IN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
DO YOU WANT TO? IS THERE A MOTION? I GUESS.
I HAD A QUESTION. IF IT'S ALL RIGHT.
WHEN YOU SAY THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, COULD YOU DEFINE THAT FOR ME? PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
THAT'S CHAPTER 18 IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON, CODE OF REGULATIONS, CODE 18. AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION OR THE REASONING BEHIND MOVING SOME OF THE CODES THAT AFFECT DILAPIDATED, VACATED PROPERTIES IS THAT THAT'S REALLY IN THE MARSHAL'S DOMAIN, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE BUILDING CODE DOMAIN.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE SECTIONS THAT WERE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR RESIDENTIAL WELL, MORE APPROPRIATE FOR DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOW IN CHAPTER 18 OUT OF CHAPTER TEN, CHAPTER TEN WAS THE STRICTLY THE BUILDING CODE, AND SOME OF THE OTHER CODES ARE ATTACHED TO THAT.
BUT CHAPTER 18 IS INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
SO THAT'S MORE OF AN ENFORCEMENT TO GIVE THEM.
THAT ABILITY TO ENFORCE THAT BETTER.
IS THAT WHAT THE SPIRIT OF THAT IS, GUYS? OKAY. AND THE CITY MARSHAL IS BUTCH STROUD AND NICK ELY.
I'M SORRY. I ALWAYS PRONOUNCE HIS NAME INCORRECTLY.
AND NICK IS AN ASSISTANT SUPERVISORS.
SO THEY'RE HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE? I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THAT WE HAVE.
MR. WISEMAN SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION.
THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL POOL AND SPA CODE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION QUESTION AGAIN.
WE'RE JUST ADOPTING A NEW CODE THAT CAME INTO EFFECT SINCE 2018, AND MY INFORMATION IS CORRECT.
SO WE'RE JUST ADOPTING ALMOST BASICALLY A NEW CODE, AREN'T WE? IT WAS DERIVED FROM THE IRC AND THE IPC AND I JUST KIND OF.
I MAKE A MOTION, WE ADOPT THE 2018 CODE OR THE 2020 PUCO MOTION FROM MR. MANN. I HAVE A SECOND FOR MR. WEISNER. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. AYE.
THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CODE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
I'LL MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND ADOPTION.
MR. GERTNER MADE THE MOTION TO ADOPT.
WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
MR. MANN, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ITEM H 2021 INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
WE ADOPT A 2021 PLUMBING CODE.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MANN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. WEISNER, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR. ITEM I INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE 2021 INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
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MOTION? MR. RYAN MADE THE MOTION.WE HAVE A SECOND. MR. WISER. SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UNANIMOUS. ITEM J.
IS THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? MR. HARRISON, THE FIRE MARSHALS HERE.
YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? HERE'S CHRIS [INAUDIBLE].
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT WE'VE ADDED TO IT.
UM, BACK IN SOME OF THE PROVISIONS, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE GONE BACKWARDS.
PROBABLY THE SINGLE BIGGEST CHANGE IS THE ADOPTION OF THE APPENDICES.
AND ONE OF THEM, IT REQUIRES ALL HIGH RISES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY THAT ARE NON SPRINKLERED TO COME UP WITH A TEN OR 12 YEAR PLAN TO INSTALL SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS OUR BUILDING STOCK, WE COULD ONLY FIND TWO BUILDINGS THAT IT APPLIES TO.
THE LARGE ENTRANCE BUILDING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS CURRENTLY UNDER A.
IT'S A FIVE YEAR PLAN, 3 TO 5 YEAR PLAN.
THEY'RE DOING ROLLING RENOVATIONS AND THEY WILL BE INSTALLING SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AS A AS THEIR OWN.
WAS THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS OR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, WHEN YOU SAY HIGH RISE? WELL, SO THE ONLY WE DON'T COMMERCIAL THE COMMERCIAL HAVE ANY HIGH RISE HOMES.
A HIGH RISE BY CODE IS ANYTHING THAT HAS A OCCUPIED FLOOR HEIGHT FROM GRADE OF 75 FEET OR MORE.
SO IF YOU GUYS ARE BUILDING HIGH RISE HOMES, I'M IN THE WRONG LINE OF WORK.
AND. WE IF YOU LOOK THROUGH I BELIEVE YOU HAD THE AMENDMENTS, THE ONLY REAL CHANGES WE MADE WERE SOME MINOR CLEANUP THINGS.
SOME OF OUR HOUSES ARE SET BACK FARTHER OFF THE STREET.
IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR FIRE PERSONNEL TO SEE THEM.
WE ALSO REQUIRE THE SAME THING FOR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. IT JUST PUTS OUR FIRE ENGINES CLOSE ENOUGH TO WHERE THERE'S LESS FRICTION LOSS AND THEY CAN PUSH MORE WATER INTO A SYSTEM QUICKER WITH REDUCED PERSONNEL.
THAT'S I MEAN, THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT WE'VE DONE TO IT.
I'VE TRIED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO SIMPLIFY THE CODE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HARRISON? WE MOVED THE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
SECONDED. RYAN, MR. GARDNER MADE A MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
WE HAVE ITEM K BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS UPDATE LANGUAGE FROM LEGAL.
SO THIS IS MY ATTEMPT TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION THAT WE HAD A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO OR SO WHERE WE HAD A PERSON WHO WAS APPEALING A DECISION TO THIS BOARD.
HOWEVER, EITHER DIDN'T APPEAR OR AT THE LAST MINUTE ASKED FOR OR RESCHEDULE, ETC..
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AND IT JUST IT WENT ON FOR SEVERAL, SEVERAL MONTHS.AND SO THE NEW LANGUAGE IS TO DEAL WITH THE WHEN APPEAL IS IS REQUESTED. IT'S GOING TO BE SCHEDULED AT THE NEXT BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPEAL HEARING.
THERE WILL BE A ONE TIME ABILITY FOR THE APPELLANT TO REQUEST OR RESCHEDULE BECAUSE CLEARLY NOT EVERYBODY CAN MEET ON A TUESDAY MORNING AT 9:00.
SO BUT THEY'LL GET ONE OPPORTUNITY TO RESCHEDULE.
THE CITY WILL HAVE ITS OPPORTUNITIES TO RESCHEDULE AS WELL, AND THOSE ARE UNLIMITED.
CLEARLY, WE HAD THE COVID SITUATION.
SOMETIMES WE MAY NOT HAVE A FULL BOARD.
AND SO WE'D HAVE TO RESCHEDULE.
I KNOW THAT WON'T HAPPEN WITH THESE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE.
AND THEN ONCE AN APPEAL IS HEARD, IT'S CLOSED.
IF THE PERSON DOESN'T APPEAR AND THEY'VE EXHAUSTED THEIR RISK RESCHEDULING ETC., THEN WE CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY CLOSE THE CASE AND THAT WON'T BE REOPENED.
SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL CLEAN UP FOLKS FROM BASICALLY ABUSING THE BOARD.
WE FELT AND BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE REQUESTED TO COME HERE AND WE KNOW THAT EVERYONE IS BUSY AND EVERYONE HAS THINGS THAT THEY CAN CAN DO AND YOU GUYS ARE VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME AND TO HAVE FOLKS COME HERE EVERY OTHER TUESDAY AND NOT HAVE SOMEBODY SHOW UP OR TO TELL THEM AT THE LAST MINUTE, OH, THIS PERSON IS NOT COMING. WE FELT THAT PERSON WAS BEING KIND OF ABUSIVE TO THE BOARD AND TO THE CITY.
SO THAT'S WHY I CREATED THIS LANGUAGE.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE.
DIFFERENT VERBIAGE OR REWRITING.
ALL RIGHT, THEN I DID MY JOB WELL.
AWESOME. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
GOOD. AND WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS AGAIN? IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPEALS LANGUAGE.
SO IT'S IN ALL OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODES.
IT'S IN THE BUILDING CODE OF RESIDENTIAL.
THIS WOULD BE THE CITY'S AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER TEN OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
ALL THE OTHER CODES HAVE A REFERENCE TO APPEALS.
OKAY, THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE THE BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER TEN OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AS PROPOSED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE SCHEDULING OF MEETINGS WITH THE BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND OTHER SUCH ITEMS. I'LL SECOND THAT. DISCUSSION.
WE WANT TO COME BACK TO BE ABLE TO [INAUDIBLE].
MIKE, WHEN YOU GET BACK TO BECAUSE THEN THE MICROPHONE CAN PICK YOU UP.
AND IF YOU CAN JUST IDENTIFY WHAT YOU'VE PASSED OUT.
SO WHILE WE WERE DISCUSSING OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE CODE, I ASKED THE CITY SECRETARY TO PRINT OUT THOSE PROVISIONS OF THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE THAT AFFECT RANGES AND OVENS, ITS SECTION M 1901 AND SPECIFICALLY PARAGRAPH HIM 19 01.2 THAT TALKS ABOUT COOKING APPLIANCES.
AND WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT COOKING APPLIANCES SHALL BE LISTED AND LABELED FOR HOUSEHOLD USE.
AND I'VE ALSO PROVIDED DEFINITIONS FROM THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE ABOUT WHAT LISTED AND LABELED MEAN SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.
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BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT SOUNDS TO ME, JUST FROM LOOKING AT THIS, THAT ADEQUATE GUIDANCE IS GIVEN TO THE BUILDING OFFICIALS TO DETERMINE WHETHER A COOKING APPLIANCE IS APPROPRIATELY USED IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING.AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PRETTY EASY FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO DETERMINE.
WITH THAT IN MIND, I'D LIKE TO COME BACK AND MOVE FORWARD THE ADOPTION OF THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.
IT IS STILL AN ACTIVE MOTION, SO YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO.
OH, OKAY. SO IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION.
IT GOES BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER, HOW THEY LIST THAT APPLIANCE.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GOVERN AND ENFORCE THAT SITUATION.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE. AND THANK YOU, MR. GERTNER, FOR FINDING THAT MADE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, YOU CAN THANK THE FIRE MARSHAL.
RECEIVE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.
ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FUTURE? WE GO THROUGH ALL THE CODES? YES. DON'T EXPECT THAT.
SO WE'LL COME BACK IN TO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE DISCUSSION THAT I HAD EARLIER ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO ADOPTION OF THE CODE, AND MAYBE THAT'S A CLUMSY WAY TO DO IT WITH A PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD.
PERHAPS IT WOULD BE BETTER IF A DESIGN PROFESSIONAL IN RESPONSIBLE CHARGE OF A PROJECT NOTIFY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IF THEY HAVE A PROJECT OR WORK IN PROGRESS.
WELL, LET ME JUST BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.
IT KIND OF STILL SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IN THE NEW BUSINESS REALM.
SO BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY ENTER INTO H BECAUSE H IS JUST CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS VERY SIMPLE TYPE OF IDEAS? BUT I'M SORRY, BUT WE DID INITIALLY DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL, AND PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS A TIME FRAME AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE PROBABLY JUST NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THE NEW BUSINESS PORTION OF THAT.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU GUYS WANT TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL? OKAY, SO AGAIN, LET'S SAY THAT I'M WORKING ON A PROJECT.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE 18 MONTHS TO FINISH THE PROJECT.
I'VE GOT THREE MONTHS LEFT TO GO IN THE BUILDING CODE CHANGES.
OR COULD I NOTIFY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND SAY I'VE STARTED THIS PROJECT? I EXPECT TO TURN IT IN FOR A PERMIT.
CAN WE DO IT UNDER THE 2012 CODE? THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE.
SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT BE HANDLED.
DO YOU GUYS WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD? YEAH. SO WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 2012, IT WAS EITHER I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, IT WAS EITHER 90 DAYS OR OR SIX MONTHS TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS TIME PERIOD.
SO IF PEOPLE HAD JOBS GONE, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, AND GIVE THEM, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THAT WITH THAT, THAT THE OLDER CODE AND THEY WOULD BE OKAY BECAUSE THEY WERE WORKING ON THE PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TIME FRAME IT WAS, BUT I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT UP WITH THE BOARD AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WERE AT THAT TIME.
IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE WOULD BE GREAT.
AND UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PROVISION CALLED VESTED RIGHTS.
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SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT SITUATIONS WHERE NOTHING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.UNDERSTANDABLE. SO I WAS JUST MAKING THE DISTINCTION THAT IF SOMETHING HAS ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO NOW SAY, OKAY, YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO 25TH, SORRY, 2021.
SO YOU GUYS DISCUSS WHAT SHOULD THAT TRANSITION PERIOD BE? SO I'M.
AND JUST HAPPY IF THERE'S SOME PROVISION WHERE THIS CAN HAPPEN.
LET ME ASK THIS. THE SIX MONTHS SOUND LIKE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.
YEAH. IT'S MORE THAN REASONABLE.
THAT'S FAIR. THAT SOUNDS FAIR.
SO AND I'M GOING TO LET ME SAY I DON'T HAVE A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
BUT SOMETIMES YOU DO GET INTO PROJECTS THAT TAKE A LONG WHILE, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT IT COULD HAPPEN. AND DO WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION HERE OR DO WE? YES, IT WOULD BE A MOTION AS WELL.
FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE? WELL, I THINK THAT THE EFFECTIVE DATE SHOULD BE THE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE, THE ADOPTED DATE.
CITY COUNCIL WILL REVIEW WHAT WE SUBMIT, WHICH WILL BE IN AN ORDINANCE FORM, AND THEY'LL ADOPT IT.
PRETTY DARN SURE THEY WILL ADOPT IT.
BUT WE CAN HAVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE IMMEDIATELY.
BUT ENFORCEMENT WILL BE SIX MONTHS LATER, SO THAT WILL ALLOW FOLKS TO GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW FOR ANY NEW PROJECTS THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO START.
THEY'LL BE MADE AWARE THAT THEY REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE 2021 CODES.
IT SOUNDS LIKE SIX MONTHS AFTER SIX MONTHS, YOU KNOW, IT'S 2021.
MY THE PURPOSE OF MY MOTION OR MY THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THIS UP IS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE WORK IN PROGRESS, THAT IT'S A LONG INVOLVED PROJECT AND IT'S ONGOING.
NOT THAT ANYBODY COULD WALK IN OFF THE STREET AND JUST SAY, OH, I'D RATHER BE UNDER THE 2012 CODE.
IT'S A LOT EASIER TO DEAL WITH IN THE 2021 CODE.
SO I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME PROVISO THAT IT'S GOT TO BE A PROJECT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WORK WAS DESIGN WORK.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT IT MIGHT BE A WAY TO DO IT THAT THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL AND RESPONSIBLE CHARGE OF THE PROJECT WOULD PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ABOUT A PROJECT AND REQUEST THAT IT BE REVIEWED UNDER THE 2012 CODE AND THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD ALLOW THAT FOR A PERIOD OF UP TO SIX MONTHS AFTER THE NEW CODE IS ADOPTED.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE AGAIN WORKED WITH THEM.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TIME PERIOD, BUT WE WORKED WITH THE CLIENT.
SO PREVIOUS TO NOW SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE IN THE ORDINANCE WE CAN PUT STAFF CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY REVIEW PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PROGRESS AND WE CAN ADD SOME SORT OF AND DISTINGUISH THAT TO YOU'RE NOT WHEN YOU SAY PROGRESS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM A DESIGN POINT OF VIEW BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED THE VISTA CLAUSE COVERS THEM ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FROM A DESIGN POINT OF VIEW.
DESIGN PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE WORKING ON A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN STARTED.
YES. AND IT COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY REVIEWED.
DON. CAN ALREADY BE DONE UNDER THE VARIANCE PROCESS IN
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SECTION ONE, CHAPTER ONE.IF WE DO A VARIANCE TO THE CODE, WE HAVE TO REDUCE IT TO WRITING.
IT COULD JUST BE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR SIX MONTHS.
WE DO LARGE SCALE CASE BY CASE PROJECTS UNDER THE VARIANCE PROCESS.
AND REVERT BACK TO THE 2012 AND IT WOULD THAT WOULDN'T I JUST I WORRY ABOUT COUNCIL ADOPTING AN ACROSS THE I CODES A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE, IF YOU WILL, AND SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS, OH WELL I JUST I WANT TO DO THIS SPRINKLER SYSTEM UNDER THE OLD COEFFICIENT.
AND DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT NEW FIRE SCIENCE.
I THINK THERE'S A VEHICLE FOR WHAT MR. GERTNER IS ASKING UNDER THE VARIANCE PROCESS.
SO IF I'M THINKING, WHAT IF I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? ONE OF MY FAVORITE EXPRESSIONS.
I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THOSE PROJECTS, THOSE WORKS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS.
HAVE THEM COME BEFORE THE BBA FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE, BUT ALSO MAYBE NOT CHARGED THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WELL HOW VARIANCE WE CAN DO THAT.
YEAH. THIS IS STAFF LEVEL WITH WE JUST HAD TO REDUCE IT TO WRITING.
I CAN VARY FROM THE CODE, BUT I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE THE WHY.
AND IT HAS TO BE REDUCED TO WRITING AND GO INTO THE RECORDS OF THE AGENCY.
OF COURSE, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST ALREADY.
IT'S THE SAME WAY WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO ADOPT.
LIKE CURRENTLY, YOU CAN APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT UNDER THE 2015 OR THE 2018 CODE.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE UNDER THE 2012, BECAUSE THE 2012 IS JUST THE STATED MINIMUM.
AND SO IT REALLY WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT.
IT WOULD BE UNDERSTANDING THE GRACE PERIOD AND GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT ON THEIR WORK.
SO FOLKS WILL BE NOTIFIED THAT 2021 IS WHAT YOU GUYS NEED, WHAT FOLKS NEED TO BE WORKING UNDER.
SO I'M WONDERING, IS THERE A WAY TO PUT A NOTICE ON THE SPLASH SCREEN IN SLA? WERE YOU FIRST LAND WHEN YOU OPEN A SELLER? IS THERE A WAY TO PUT A NOTICE THERE THAT WOULD SAY THAT THE CITY IS ADOPTING THE 2021 BUILDING CODES? WE PUT SOME NOTICES OUT THERE, ALTHOUGH IT WATER METERS.
YEAH IT WELL MAYBE SOMETHING WE DO ON OUR DEPARTMENT WEBSITE WHICH HAS PLANNING PERMIT EVERYBODY BUT I MAY GO MONTHS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE BUT IF I'M DOING PERMITTING I'M ON THE PERMITTING PAGE ALL THE TIME.
RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO GET THE WORD OUT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
YEAH. AND WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS REALLY BOTH BECAUSE THEY'LL BE PROBABLY FOLKS WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH EXCEL YET, NEW APPLICANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COULD BENEFIT THEIR INITIAL DISCOVERY OF OUR THAT WHICH ARE ON THE WEBSITE.
SO IN THAT CASE THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE IS A GREAT BIG SIGN OVER TINA'S DESK.
BUT I'M HEARING WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING IS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF ADOPTING THIS VIA A DEPARTMENTAL POLICY, THE TIME FRAME I'M TALKING ABOUT, IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO GET THE WORD OUT.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE SOME AN ARCHITECT OR ENGINEER THAT'S WORKING IN HOUSTON.
I THINK WE HAD THAT ISSUE WITH THE WHEN WE ADOPTED THAT FREE BOARD BFE AND THAT WAS THE ONLY THING ON TINA'S MONITOR WAS I THINK IT WAS MAY 15TH OR MAY 18TH. SO MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES DIDN'T GO IN THERE.
THEY DIDN'T SEE THAT. SO THEY STARTED CRYING AND COMPLAINING.
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THOSE OF US WHO DID GOT THE MESSAGE.IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT NEW BUSINESS CATEGORY? YOU GOT THE NOTES, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, EVERYTHING WILL BE REDUCED TO AN ORDINANCE FORM.
STAFF WILL ALSO PROVIDE A STAFF REPORT TO FOLLOW THE CODES SO THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN UNDERSTAND IN ITS SIMPLEST FORM AS POSSIBLE WHAT CHANGES, IF ANY, HAVE BEEN MADE TO THESE CODES.
AND. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER APPOINTED TO THE BOARD.
I GUESS WE CAN GO ON TO H UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
WELL, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL AS AS WE DID LAY PEOPLE AND PROFESSIONALS IN THIS FIELD OF BUILDING THAT THIS YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO MAKING OUR ENVIRONMENT SAFER AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
SO WHEN WE DO HAVE CASES, WE APPRECIATE WHEN YOU GUYS COME IN.
I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO SCHEDULE THESE ONE MORE MEETING, WHETHER WE HAVE CASES OR NOT SO THAT WE CAN INTRODUCE OUR FUTURE NEW MEMBER, ELECTED CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIR AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT DEPENDING UPON IF WE GET ANY CASES FOR THIS MONTH, I DON'T THINK WE DO.
SO THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO EVERYBODY.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, SO WE GO TO ITEM I, WHICH IS ADJOURNED.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MADE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND.
MR. WEISNER, IT IS 10:10 A.M..
THANK YOU ALL.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.