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YOU HAVE A CONFLICT.

[3. Conflict of Interest]

YOU KNOW, GIVE ME AN ANSWER WHENEVER WE TOLD YOU.

OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TIMELINES MAY MERGE AND IT'S GOING TO BE HAVE TO BE FILED BEFORE THE VOTE AT THE VERY LATEST.

OK PENALTIES, VIOLATION OF 171 CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.

AND THAT'S THE FAILURE TO FILE THE AFFIDAVIT.

NOW THIS 176 REQUIRES DISCLOSURES OF RELATIONSHIPS.

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AND THIS IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT I WAS TALKING ABOUT FOLLOWING THE DISCLOSURE OF A CONFLICT AS OPPOSED TO AN ABSTENTION.

NOW THIS IS LIKE IF YOU'VE GOT A FAMILY MEMBER WHO MAY MAKE MAKES MORE THAN 2500 FROM THE RELATIONSHIP THE BUSINESS OR YOU SEE CERTAIN BUSINESS GIFTS.

AND I'D HAVE TO LOOK ON ON WHETHER THESE WOULD REQUIRE ABSTENTION UNDER 176 OR IF IT JUST REQUIRES DISCLOSURE.

I THINK THESE ARE ACTUALLY BASED WITH CONTRACTS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH CONTRACTS WITH THE..

WELL, NOT NECESSARILY SOME OF IT'S GIFT ORIENTED.

SO LIKE IF YOU'VE RECEIVED GIFTS FROM INDIVIDUALS, YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO FOLLOW DISCLOSURE OF THAT GIFT THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED.

NOW IT GETS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED SOMETIMES, BUT THESE ARE THE MAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE SET THAT SET UP THAT YOU HAVE TO FILE A DISCLOSURE STATEMENT MORE THAN 2500 OR 2500 OR MORE, OR YOU'VE RECEIVED THAT GIFT OF $100 OR MORE FROM A PERSON WHO CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY OR IS CONSIDERING DOING BUSINESS WITH.

THIS IS NOT PROBABLY AS MUCH OF.

A MATTER FOR YOU GUYS.

BUT ALSO THERE ARE CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS UNDER DISCLOSURE FOR 176, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'LL THANK YOUR LEGISLATURES FOR THIS EXCEPTION.

AND IT'S I GUESS IT'S THE LOBBYIST EXCEPTION.

ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU ACCEPT FOOD AS A GUEST OR POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS UNDER THE ELECTION CODE AND THAT FOOD IS ACCEPTED AS A GUEST, IT'S FOOD, ENTERTAINMENT OR TRAVEL THAT YOU ACCEPT AS A GUEST.

NOW, IF IT'S FROM A CORPORATION THAT CAN ONLY BE USED IF THERE'S A MEMBER OF THE CORPORATION WHO HAS AUTHORITY TO BIND THE COMPANY.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE ONE OF THE OFFICERS THERE OF THE COMPANY IF THEY'RE THROWING A PARTY AND YOU'RE INVITED TO A PARTY, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE JUST A COMPANY PARTY WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE OFFICERS THERE.

IT'S KIND OF SET UP TO TO MAKE IT TO.

TO EXCEPTIONS FOR FOR PERSONAL GUESTS AND STUFF.

NOW IT'S ALSO AN OFFENSE IF YOU UNDER THIS CHAPTER IF YOU FAIL TO FILE A CONFLICT DISCLOSURE STATEMENT AND THIS IS YOU NOT ONLY FAIL TO FILE THE REQUIRED CONFLICTS DISCLOSURE STATEMENT WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE WITH THE APPROPRIATE RECORDS ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH IS THE CITY SECRETARY NOT LATER THAN 5:00 PM ON THE SEVENTH BUSINESS, DAY AFTER THE DAY WHICH YOU BECOME AWARE OF THE FACTS THAT REQUIRE THE FILING OF THE STATEMENT.

SO THERE YOU GO.

AND THAT IS IT.

DEPENDING ON THE VIOLATION, IT'S A CLASS A TO A CLASS C.

OK PLAT APPROVALS.

A MEMBER OF THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING PLATS WHO HAS A SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST IN A SUBDIVIDED TRACT, MUST FILE AN AFFIDAVIT STATING THE NATURE AND EXTENT OF THE INTEREST AND ABSTAIN FROM FURTHER PARTICIPATION.

AND THAT'S UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE 212.

AND CITY DEPOSITORY.

Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT, SO YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

SURETY, I DON'T THINK.

WELL, YOU MAY HAVE SOME BUSINESSES.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WILL DO ANY SURETY OR BANKING WORK, BUT THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM.

BUT IF YOU DO IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE IF YOU'RE ACTING AS A SURETY ON A PROJECT THAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU GUYS OR SOMETHING, THAT MIGHT KICK IN.

BUT THAT WOULD BE PRETTY UNUSUAL, I THINK.

OK ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY.

IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST OR IN PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO BE ACQUIRED WITH PUBLIC FUNDS, YOU'VE GOT TO FILE AN AFFIDAVIT WITHIN TEN DAYS BEFORE THE DATE WHICH THE PROPERTY IS TO BE ACQUIRED.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN PROPERTY THAT YOU KNOW THE CITY IS BUYING OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO FILE A NOTICE FOR THAT.

OK. I RECOMMEND YOU READ THE CODE OF ETHICS AND SEE IT'S ONLINE.

IF YOU WANT TO PAY PER COPY, I CAN GET ONE PRINTED OUT FOR YOU OR EMAIL YOU A COPY.

BUT IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE AND CITY SECRETARY, JUST GO TO THE CITY CODE, TYPE IN CODE OF ETHICS AND IT'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO. NOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF A GENERAL STANDARDS OF CONDUCT THAT THE CITY HAS PASSED UNDER THEIR CODE, AND IT STATES AN OFFICIAL SHALL NOT ACCEPT ANY GIFTS, BENEFIT, FAVORS, SERVICE OR OTHER THING OF VALUE THAT MIGHT REASONABLY TEND TO

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INFLUENCE THE OFFICIAL AND THE DISCHARGE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES.

OR THAT THE OFFICIAL KNOWS OR SHOULD KNOW THAT IT'S BEING OFFERED WITH THE INTENT TO INFLUENCE THE OFFICIAL'S CONDUCT.

SO IF YOU'VE GOT A VOTE COMING UP ON SOME PROPERTY AND THEN THE GUY WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY COMES UP AND SAYS, HEY, LET ME TAKE YOU TO DINNER, THAT SHOULD PROBABLY RING SOME BELLS FOR YOU. THIS IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO WOULD HAVE AN INTEREST IN A PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO A DECISION YOU HAVE TO MAKE.

YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE PASSING REGULATIONS PER SE.

BUT THE ISSUES THAT DO USE YOUR COMMON SENSE, THAT'S USUALLY A GOOD GUIDE HERE.

OK, THEY'VE GOT THINGS THAT ARE BUSINESS SUBJECT TO REGULATION OR WE'VE GOT ORDINANCES AND DECISIONS THAT THAT MIGHT BE PASSED OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, COME ANY CONTRACT OR PURCHASE PAYMENT INVOLVING AN OFFICIAL'S DISCRETION AND LITIGATION.

HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T GET INVOLVED IN ANY OF THAT.

THE EXCEPTIONS, IF IT'S GOT VALUE OF LESS THAN $50 AND IF IT WAS NOT GIVEN IN EXCHANGE FOR AN EXERCISE OF OFFICIAL DISCRETION.

SO IF YOU TAKE SOMETHING AS A VALUE OF $50, YOU SELL OUT CHEAP AND YOUR VOTE GOES FOR LESS THAN $50.

THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION.

AND SO THAT THAT'S THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S GOT SOMETHING COMING UP AND THEY WANT TO TAKE YOU OUT FOR A JUST LESS EXPENSIVE MEAL, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WELL, WHY NOW? IF YOU HAVE A PRIOR RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL, IT'S A SMALL TOWN AND PEOPLE HAVE FRIENDS THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE DEFENSIBLE.

IF IT'S SOMEBODY YOU'VE NEVER TALKED TO BEFORE AND YOU ACCEPT A GIFT LIKE THAT, THAT MIGHT RAISE SOME RED FLAGS IF IT COMES UP.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT IF THERE WAS A PREEXISTING RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT I TALKED ABOUT, THE FOOD, LODGING, TRANSPORTATION, I WOULD GO THROUGH THIS PREEXISTING RELATIONSHIP.

SO IF IT'S A CLOSE FRIEND THAT YOU'VE KNOWN FOREVER AND YOU'RE GOING OUT AND IT'S HIS TURN TO BUY A BEER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT AN ISSUE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND HOW IT LOOKS TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IN THE PUBLIC EYE.

NOW, LIKE THIS IS WHAT I'D SAID, THERE'S EXCEPTIONS FOR FOOD, LODGING, TRANSPORTATION AND ENTERTAINMENT EXCEPTED AS A GUEST PROVIDED THE DONOR IS PRESENT AND IF THE DONOR IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO REPORT THOSE ITEMS AND IT'S REPORTED BY THE DONOR, THIS IS KIND OF THE LOBBY EXCEPTION.

SO IF THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT IT UNDER LOBBYING RULES AND STUFF, USUALLY THIS IS KIND OF SET UP FOR STATE LEGISLATURE TYPE THING, BUT IT CAN APPLY ALSO TO CITY OFFICIALS.

NOW, THE OTHER EXCEPTIONS, IF THESE THINGS WERE RELATED TO WORK RELATED EXPENSES AND THAT'S JUST USED TO DEFRAY EXPENSES AND THE PERFORMANCE OF DUTIES.

I CAN'T THINK OF AN EXAMPLE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FOR THAT, BUT.

IT MAY BE TRAINING PURPOSES OR SOMETHING AND.

THE TRAINING PEOPLE WERE PROVIDING DINNER OR SOMETHING, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING STATUTORY PROVIDED FEES.

AND POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS AS DEFINED BY STATE ELECTORAL LAWS.

SO THAT'S NOT. LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE GOT.

OK MISUSE OF OFFICIAL INFORMATION, IF YOU'RE USING, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT ALL THE INFORMATION YOU GUYS DEAL WITH IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC I BELIEVE SO I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD REALLY IMPACT YOU UNLESS YOU WERE TO USE INFORMATION, YOU GAINED OFFICIAL INFORMATION, SOMEHOW YOU'VE GOTTEN A HOLD OF AND YOU USE IT TO ADVANCE A PERSONAL INTEREST OR HELP YOU ACQUIRE SOME PECUNIARY INTEREST OR BASICALLY HARM OR BENEFIT SOMEBODY YOU KNOW.

AND SAME TYPE OF THING FOR MISUSE OF PROPERTY.

AND THIS WOULDN'T REALLY APPLY TO YOU GUYS.

BASICALLY, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE CITY PROPERTY TO DO PRIVATE STUFF, BOTTOM LINE ON THAT.

OK NEPOTISM, THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE YOU'RE HIRING FAMILY, PEOPLE RELATED TO YOU.

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THAT'S NOT GOING TO APPLY TO YOU ALSO.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE AN ISSUE? SEEK ADVICE EARLY.

DON'T COME UP AN HOUR BEFORE THE MEETING AND SAY, LAY OUT A COMPLICATED FACT PATTERN AND SAY, I NEED AN ANSWER TO THIS, BECAUSE AS GOOD AS DONNA IS AND THE OTHER ATTORNEYS I WORK WITH, SOMETIMES IT TAKES US A WHILE TO LOOK THINGS UP AND GIVE YOU SOME GOOD ADVICE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BETWEEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND SIMPLY ABSTAINING.

OK WHAT IT IS, IS, YO, IF YOU HAVE A THERE'S CERTAIN CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT MIGHT ARISE.

SOME OF THEM REQUIRE ABSTENTION FROM A VOTE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON AND SOME OF THEM MAY JUST REQUIRE A DECLARATION OF THAT, TYPICALLY YOU WOULD STILL HAVE I THINK YOU HAVE TO ABSTAIN. BUT THERE MAY BE SOME INSTANCES WHERE YOU MAY BE ACCEPTED OUT FROM VOTING OR YOU'D BE GIVEN AN EXEMPTION FROM THE CONFLICT.

I THINK WHAT IT IS, IS THERE WAS A FORM THAT CAME UP THAT SAYS THAT SAID ABSTENTION AFFIDAVIT.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE CONFUSING PART.

OUR FORMS WOULD SAY CONFLICTS OR STATEMENT OF CONFLICT.

I THINK IT DOESN'T I DON'T THINK IT SAYS ABSTENTION AFFIDAVIT.

IT'S A DECLARATION.

DO YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST OR A CONFLICT? WELL, JUST THE TITLE OF THE FORM.

I DON'T RECALL WHAT IT IS, BUT SO UNDERSTAND THAT AN ABSTENTION IS A VOTE.

SO WHETHER YOU ARE VOTING FOR OR AGAINST AN ISSUE, YOU'RE ABSTAINING.

THAT MEANS I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A YAY OR NAY ON IT.

WELL, I WANT TO I WANT TO DISTINGUISH THAT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THE ABSTENTION PHRASE IS ACTUALLY USED IN TWO WAYS HERE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ABSTAINING FROM A AS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, NOT ONLY ARE YOU YOU'RE NOT VOTE YOU'RE NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCUSSION.

RIGHT. RIGHT.

SO YOU'RE ABSTAINING FROM THE DISCUSSION ITSELF AS OPPOSED TO MAKING A VOTE OF ABSTENTION.

YOU'RE ABSTAINING FROM THE AGENDA ITEM.

YOU'RE ABSTAINING FOR THE YEAR.

YOU'RE OUT FOR THAT ITEM ITSELF, BUT YOU'RE STILL VOTING.

NO, YOU ARE NOT. IF YOU ABSTAIN, YOU ARE NOT VOTING.

BUT UNDERNEATH THIS IS WHERE AND THIS IS AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK WE'RE GETTING TERMINOLOGY KIND OF JUST JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THIS BOARD, FOR THIS BOARD, IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THIS BOARD, THERE IS NO DELIBERATION ON THE CASE MATTER AND THERE IS NO VOTING.

YOU LITERALLY PHYSICALLY GET YOURSELF OFF OF THE DAIS AND YOU SIT SOMEWHERE ELSE, STEP OUT OF THE ROOM OR WHATEVER.

IF YOU HAVE DECLARED A CONFLICT.

YOU DO NOT PARTICIPATE WHATSOEVER IN THAT CASE.

BUT THIS BOARD, IF YOU CHOOSE TO ABSTAIN IN A VOTE, YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE HEARING ALL YOU WANT. BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE VOTE, YAY, NAY OR ABSTAIN, THOSE ARE THE THREE CHOICES THAT THE MEMBER CAN CHOOSE FROM.

BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CONFLICT OR CONFLICT.

I GOT IT RIGHT FOR THIS BOARD.

IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT, IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD.

YOU CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN A NO MATTER.

NO WAY. NO FORMAL ABSTENTION IS NOT NECESSARILY A CONFLICT.

DOESN'T REPRESENT NECESSARILY A CONFLICT.

CORRECT? YEAH.

YOU DON'T WANT YOU MAY YOU MAY HAVE A FRIEND, YOU KNOW A FRIEND WHOSE A MATTER THAT'S BEFORE YOU ALL RIGHT.

NOW WOULDN'T MAYBE WOULDN'T FALL UNDER THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATUTE.

BUT YOU WANT TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THAT BECAUSE YOU YOU MIGHT BE BIASED.

SO YOU WOULD JUST SAY, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THAT VOTE.

OKAY. BUT THERE'S OTHER CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

WE WENT OVER THERE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REVISE.

SHE SAID, REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE DISCUSSION AND NOT PARTICIPATE AT ALL.

THAT MAKES SENSE. I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ON MY SOAPBOX, BECAUSE EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT NEEDING THESE TO COME TO YOU ALL MORE THAN ONE HOUR BEFORE THE MEETING.

IT'S YET ANOTHER REASON FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT YOUR AGENDAS AND GO OVER YOUR CASES FAR IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETINGS.

SO NOW I'LL.

. THAT'S GOOD ADVICE. STEP DOWN OFF MY SOAPBOX.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY EASY TO DO WHEN YOU GET BUSY AND SAY, OH, I'LL LOOK AT IT LATER AND ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMETHING POPS UP AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, YOU KNOW? SO, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD ADVICE.

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ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. WE KNOW THAT A LOT.

SO THANK YOU. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, TOP DOWN OR COME TO OUR OFFICE AND WE'LL GET YOU SET UP AND READY TO GO.

THANK YOU. YES.

THANK YOU. YOU'LL PROBABLY GET A RAISE.

YOU KNOW THE EXERCISE, RIGHT? EVERYONE IS GOOD WITH THAT.

YES, MA'AM. THAT WAS A GOOD EXPLANATION.

WE'RE MISSING RUSTY AND JOHN PAUL.

THEY KNOW. OK, SO THANK YOU.

THAT TAKES CARE OF ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA.

NOW WE MOVE TO ITEMS FOUR, DISCUSSION ITEMS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AWARDS.

[4. Discussion Items]

DID EVERYONE GET THEIR VOTES IN? MS. GORMAN.

YES. EVERYBODY WAS PRESENT.

GOT THEIR VOTES. OH, EXCELLENT.

IT LOOKS LIKE RUSTY DIDN'T.

OH FIDDLESTICKS.

RIGHT? SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF TIMES JUST LOOKING AT THESE THINGS WHILE MARY WAS TALKING AND MAY I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT OR MAY I/COMMENT? WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE EVERY CATEGORY RIGHT.

WE CAN WE CAN TWEAK THE CATEGORIES IF WE WANT TO.

RIGHT? YEAH.

IT'S ALL UP TO YOUR DISCRETION AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

SO HERE'S I JUST PRINTED OUT THE SURVEY FORM SO WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT.

A CHALLENGE TO MY LITTLE EYEBALLS.

I'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE] POWERPOINT TOO, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT PICTURES AGAIN.

WE LOVE THE PICTURES, BY THE WAY.

PICTURES. OH, IT'S KIND OF A MIX OF ME AND THINGS I FOUND ON THE INTERNET..

THE INTERWEBS.

I WENT OUT AT SUNSET EVERY NIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, SO INTERPRET THESE FOR US, PLEASE.

THE FIRST ONE, BEAUTIFICATION, WE HAVE A TIE.

4124 BROADWAY, BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE CITY HALL PLAZA, GOT TWO VOTES EACH.

CROCKETT PARK GOT ONE AND STATE PARK GLASBERG PROJECT GOT ONE.

BETWEEN CITY HALL AND THE CHURCH.

CITY HALL AND THE CHURCH.

2, 2, 1..

AND BEAUTIFICATION.

AND ONE, THIS IS AN BEAUTIFICATION OK.

TURNING POINT. THAT WAS A TURNING POINT.

BETWEEN TURNING POINT AND CITY HALL.

DO YOU ALL WANT TO, MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM AND SEE KIND OF WHERE WE FALL OUT WITH THE KIND OF THE WINNERS, WHO'S AHEAD IN ALL OF THE CATEGORIES? AND THEN WE SEE IF WE'VE GOT SOME KIND OF FAVORITES IN ALL OF THE CATEGORIES OVERALL.

AND THEN WE KIND OF PLAY MUSICAL CHAIRS BETWEEN THE CATEGORIES.

MAYBE WE DO THAT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN EXTRA PEN? I DON'T KNOW WHERE MINE WENT.

OH, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

THAT ONE CAME FROM. NO, I LIKE THIS ONE.

OH, I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT, I'M SORRY, STEPHEN.

I DO HAVE SUPERIOR PENS.

SORRY. OH.

OH WOW.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WHERE ARE WE ON DEVELOPMENT? DEVELOPMENT? THAT ONE DEVELOPMENT.

OH SUGAR CUBES LOOKS LIKE A 50%.

SUGAR CUBES GOT THREE VOTES.

GALVESTON ISLAND BREWERY GOT TWO AND A CUP ONE.

OKAY. IS THAT ON DEVELOPMENT? SEE HOW MANY ONE? YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. GOSH, THIS IS ANOTHER TIME WE HAD A COUPLE OF TIMES, PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR TIDE BEACH FOR BEACH NOURISHMENT.

GOT 3000 ISLAND STATE PARK, LOTS FOR PROJECT.

GOT 3000.

SOLID BIRD PROJECT PROJECT GOT THREE.

ALL RIGHT. HEY, HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAD A LOT OF ENTRIES.

SO 523 10TH STREET GOT TWO VOTES.

SO THAT'S AHEAD.

2111 STRAND GOT ONE VOTE 2127 STRAND GOT ONE VOTE AND 20 201 MARKET GOT ONE VOTE FIVE 2310 IS YES. SO WE ONLY HAD FIVE VOTES ON THAT CATEGORY, CATHERINE.

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FIVE, YEAH.

OK, ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.

SO NOW LET'S GO TO PARTICIPATION, PLEASE, MA'AM.

PRIVATE INVESTMENT. NO PARTICIPATION.

YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT ONE.

OKAY, JUST.

HEY, THIS ONE, THE STATE PARK GOT TWO VOTES.

CROCKETT PARK GOT THREE VOTES AND BIG SPEECH GOT ONE VOTE IN THE OTHER CATEGORY.

OH, YEAH. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS.

THAT'S MY VOTE.

JUST GOING TO SAY IT BECAUSE UNDER BABES BEACH ON THE LITTLE POSSIBILITIES, IT WAS LISTED AS A PARTICIPATION, BUT IT WASN'T LISTED AS A VOTE OF THING WE COULD VOTE FOR IN THE.

OH, I SEE.. CHECK OFF, MUST'VE JUST MISSED IT.

I CAN SEE HOW I MADE ONE OF THESE SURVEY MONKEY THINGS TODAY.

AND THEN MY EYES WERE CROSSING WHEN I GOT FINISHED.

IF YOU DON'T USE THE FREE VERSION, IT'S EASIER.

BUT I USE THE FREE VERSION.

NO, I WAS USING.

TRUST ME, HAVE YOU MET ME? IT WAS THE FREE VERSION THAT I WAS USING.

I'M. I'M HOLDING ON TO MY LAST DOLLAR KATHERINE.

I AM SO CHEAP. NOT TO YOUR FIRST DOLLAR.

WHAT WAS THAT? I SAID ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO YOUR FIRST DOLLAR? OH, ALL RIGHT PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

PRIVATE INVESTMENT HAD A BUNCH OF.

AND TREES WE HAVE TWO TIES.

WELL, WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE TIED.

1309 23RD STREET, WHICH IS THE COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH, AND THEN 2121 MARKET MALMO PLAZA.

BOTH OF THOSE GOT TWO VOTES EACH PLUS THEN WE'VE GOT ONE FOR 21, ONE FOR 21, 11 STRAND THE BROWN BUILDING AND ONE FOR 902 NINTH STREET OAK AND THEN PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

A RESTORATION OF PETROLEUM GOT THREE VOTES.

DAVE'S BEACH GOT TWO.

AND CROCKETT PARK GOT ONE.

ALRIGHT, AND THEN REDEVELOPMENT.

REDEVELOPMENT. COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH GOT THREE VOTES.

ONE MARKET GOT ONE VOTE.

TWO VOTES IN NINE ON 2/9 STREET UP IN THE 1309 23RD.

YEAH. AND THEN 20.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN HOW DID WE FEEL ABOUT DOING THIS SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR THE TV SHOW? FIVE VOTES FOR THAT AND ONE OTHER.

WHAT WAS THE OTHER? SPECIAL RECOGNITION.

I NEVER KNOW HOW TO LOOK AT THINGS RIGHT HERE.

AND I CAN'T THAT.

OH, THAT'S NICE.

I WROTE IT. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I SAID.

THERE YOU GO. I JUST SAY THAT I THOUGHT THE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO THEIR HOMES TO MAKE GALVESTON A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE OUR CITIZENS.

TO LET THEM SAY IT'S A CITYWIDE RECOGNITION OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO PUT SO MUCH HARD WORK IN.

THAT WAS JUST MY THOUGHT.

WELL, I THINK THAT WHEN THE AWARDS ARE PRESENTED, THAT THAT SHOULD CAN BE DEFINITELY BE PART OF WHAT IS SAID AT COUNCIL.

I THINK WE CAN WORK THAT WHEN THOSE ARE PRESENTED THAT CAN BE WORKED INTO THE SCRIPT.

I THINK THAT'D BE NICE.

THANK YOU, REJONE. YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO WHAT I'M SEEING THEN IS DEFINITELY WE'RE ALL OVER THE BOARD, KIDS.

THE THREE TIMES. TWO TIMES? YEAH. DO YOU HAVE A FREE TIME? DO YOU HAVE LIKE, IS THERE A CHART THAT SHOWS YOU, LIKE, THE VOTES BY CATEGORY FOR EACH ENTRY? LIKE IF YOU SAID BECAUSE MULTIPLE ENTRIES WERE AVAILABLE IN EACH CATEGORY.

RIGHT. LIKE MAYBE IT WAS MULTIPLE.

YES, EXACTLY. YEAH MAYBE IF YOU PAY FOR THE.

OH, WE DON'T WE DON'T WRITE THE PAPER.

OKAY. NO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THE OLD, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE THE NOODLES KIDS.

BABE'S BEACH ACROSS THE BOARD, GOT A GOOD NUMBER.

YEAH. OH YEAH.

YEAH, THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

AND SO WE SHOULD JUST LOOK AT BABE'S BEACH.

WHAT CATEGORY DO WE WANT TO BABE'S BEACH? EXACTLY AND I AGREE STAN AND THE SAME THING WITH LIKE THE LOST BIRD PROJECT. YEAH.

LOOKS LIKE WE'RE I'M SEEING A LOT FOR THE COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH, RESTORATION OF THE TROLLEYS LOOKS POPULAR

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. NINTH STREET, DID NINTH STREET GET MORE THAN TWO? NO, WE GOT [INAUDIBLE] ONE VOTE IN TWO CATEGORIES.

YES. NO, THEY DID A GREAT JOB ON THOSE HOUSES BEFORE.

OH, MY GOD. IT WAS AN AMAZING JOB.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S SEE, WHAT IF WE.

SO THIS IS WHAT I MEANT ALL ABOUT KIND OF KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHERE WE CAN SLOT THINGS IN BECAUSE WE SEE WHAT'S KIND OF FLOATING EVERYONE'S BOAT AND WE'RE SPREAD OUT PRETTY FAR, Y'ALL ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. SO THAT'S A TOUGH.

YEAH, THAT IS. OKAY, SO LET'S REDEVELOPMENT.

LET'S START WITH REDEVELOPMENT.

IF WE DO, WE HAVE IF WE SLOT COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH IN THERE.

WITH A GREAT REDEVELOPMENT.

CATEGORY LET'S DO, LET'S START FROM THE BOTTOM UP, BOB.

LET'S START WITH CATEGORY EIGHT FIRST.

IT LOOKS LIKE IF WE START WITH REDEVELOPMENT THERE.

AND GO WITH THE 23RD STREET ON THAT ONE.

WAIT, 23RD STREET IS THE COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH.

YES. SO I'VE GOT TO SAY, THE U.S.

NATIONAL BANK IS A FAR BIGGER, BETTER PROJECT.

REALLY YOU THINK SO? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S A MULTI STORY BUILDING.

THE COMMUNITY CHURCH IS A ONE STORY OLD CAR DEALERSHIP.

YEAH, BUT IT WAS SO THEY HAD I MEAN, THEY REALLY HAD TO GO IN AND BANK. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN. HELLO? OH, SORRY. YES.

SO MY THOUGHT IS THEN THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ONE OR THE OTHER COULD MOVE TO PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT WHERE, ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT WHERE EITHER ONE OF THEM GOT THEIR MOST VOTES.

I THINK A STRONG CASE COULD BE MADE FOR EITHER ONE OF THEM TO OUTWEIGH THE OTHERS THAT GOT THE VOTES IN PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

SO I THINK BETWEEN THE COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH AND FROST BANK, ONE COULD BE IN REDEVELOPMENT AND ONE COULD BE IN PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

IS IT IS IT PROSPECT? OH, I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING WITH THE THE MERMAID STUFF ON THE.

. NO, THAT'S MARMO. OH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

BUT YEAH I AGREE, THEY DID YEAH, I'VE BEEN IN THERE. THEY DID DO A GREAT JOB.

OKAY, SO WHICH WHICH WOULD.

WHICH I'LL THINK REDEVELOPMENT IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE OLD CAR DEALERSHIP.

YES, IT'S COMPLETELY TRANSFORMED.

OKAY, SO THE PRIVATE INVESTMENT FOR MOBILE SPACE.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S SO I'M HEARING THAT WE'VE GOT THAT COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH ON REDEVELOPMENT AND I'M HEARING FROST BANK ON PRIVATE INVESTMENT SO THAT REMOVES MALMO 2121 MARKET.

PRIVATE INVESTMENT. YES, IT DOES.

SO NOW LET'S BACK UP AND GO TO PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

AND I SEE WHAT A RESTORATION OF THE TROLLEYS WITH THE THREE WITH THAT HAS THREE.

NOW I ALSO SEE COMING IN SECOND WE HAVE BABES BEACH AT TWO.

SO.. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? OH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT DISTINGUISHES BABES BEACH RESTORATION THAN ANY OTHER BEACH RESTORATION THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT? THAT MAY WELL, I MEAN, I THINK SO BECAUSE THERE WAS NO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD BEACH RESTORATIONS LOTS OF OVER THE YEARS AND DIFFERENT PLACES ALONG THE BEACH.

BUT I WAS WONDERING WHAT MAKES THIS ONE DIFFERENT FROM ANY OF THE OTHER BEACH? YEAH, I THINK THE NUMBER ONE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT WAS A REALLY 100% CONSTRUCTION.

THERE WAS NO THERE WAS NOTHING THERE, BUT RIFF RAFF.

YEAH. THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT.

YEAH. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT PARTICIPATION, ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC INVESTMENT AS PLACES THAT BABES BEACH CAN GO.

SO, AND, AND I, I THINK THAT BABES BEACH IS BETTER SUITED FOR ENVIRONMENTAL OR PUBLIC INVESTMENT .. AND THEY HAVE THREE IN ENVIRONMENTAL ALSO.

SO I KNOWING THE LOST BIRD PROJECT BECAUSE I WAS INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THAT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS A GREAT CASE STUDY ON HOW TO GET STUFF DONE IN

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TERMS OF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CALL IT PARTICIPATION, COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION, HAVING TO GET THE STATE ON BOARD IN ORDER TO PUT A MONUMENT IN A STATE PARK. I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT HURDLES THAT HAVE THAT THE GINTC HAD TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET THAT ESTABLISHED.

NOT TO MENTION CONTRACTING WITH A NATIONAL ARTIST AND THE LOST BIRD PROJECT, WHICH IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM AND TRYING TO ENCOURAGE TO GET ONE PUT DOWN HERE. I COULD SEE THAT BABES BEACH GOES TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND YOU PUT THE LOST BIRD PROJECT CERTIFICATION NUMBER FOR ME.

OKAY, SO WE'LL GO WITH LONG BIRD LAWS.

WE HAVE A NICE PARTICIPATION.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO THEN IF WE PUT THEN IF WE PUT BABES BEACH IN ENVIRONMENTAL, THEN IN PUBLIC PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

ISN'T THIS OUR LAST YEAR FOR CROCKETT PARK CATHERINE? CAN BE NEXT YEAR.

COULDN'T THAT BE? CAN THAT RESTAURANT NEXT YEAR? YEAH. RESTORATION OF THE TROLLEYS COULD BE NEXT YEAR.

DO WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE CROCKETT PARK OR DO WE WANT TO DO RESTORATION OF THE TROLLEYS? I'M GOING TO NEED TO PROBABLY SEE A SHOW OF HANDS ON THAT ONE FOR PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

CROCKETT PARK.

I REALLY LIKE THE TROLLEYS.

OH, I DO TOO. LET'S BRING THEM UP NEXT YEAR.

BUT THEN THE TROLLEYS WILL BE ON OUR LIST NEXT YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS UNTIL IT EXPIRES.

BECAUSE THAT'S A HUGE, HUGE INVESTMENT.

NOW, WHERE YES, STAN? WHERE WE ARE? WE NEED TO TAKE UP NUMBER FOUR IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

OKAY. SO WE KNOW WELL, WE'VE GOT A SPREAD FOUR WAY.

WE'VE GOT TWO AT 10TH STREET.

FROST BANK IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE MIX BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN ONE TO IT.

WE'VE GOT THE ART CENTER AND WE'VE GOT 2111 STRAND.

SO THIS IS THE LAST YEAR FOR THE ARTS CENTER, LAST YEAR..

WHICH WAS A $1.2 MILLION REHABILITATION.

IT WAS A BIG INVESTMENT IN THAT 10TH STREET.

BUT THE 10TH STREET, ONE MAN TALK ABOUT BRINGING IT BACK FROM THE DEAD.

DID YOU ANYBODY GO TO GO WALK THROUGH THAT DURING THE HOST TOUR? I DID. THIS INTERIOR WAS JUST FABULOUS.

BUT I'VE BEEN WATCHING IT ON INSTAGRAM.

IT'S JUST MIND BLOWING.

YOU CAN BRING IT UP AND AND THEY EMBRACE IT OFF THE GROUND BY TEN FEET.

CORRECT. THEY BROUGHT IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.

RIGHT. WHICH WAS INCREDIBLE.

YES, THAT IS GORGEOUS.

YEAH, MAN, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL JOB.

SO WHAT IS THAT? SO DO WE WANT TO HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS BETWEEN 2127 STRAND AND 523 10TH.

I SEE. 21. YEAH.

LET'S SEE 2123 STRAND.

2127 STRAND.

[INAUDIBLE] SO THE SUPER PROFESSIONAL JEFFREY, THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

YEAH. THE PICTURES THAT I GOT AFTER WAS ALL OVER HERE, ALL THE CORNICE AND BRACKET WORK.

YEAH, THAT WAS RESTORED.

WELL, THEY POINTED MASONRY AS WELL.

YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

IT DID THAT.

WHAT WENT THROUGH HOW MANY CONTRACTORS OVER AND AND HOW MANY BOARDS.

ALL RIGHT. SHOW OF HANDS.

2127 STRAND IS IN ITS LAST YEAR OF ELIGIBILITY.

YES, 2127 STRAND.

SHOW OF HANDS. OKAY, LET'S DO THAT.

SHOW OF HANDS FOR 10TH STREET, RIGHT? OH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

I COULDN'T LOSE ON THAT BOAT.

BEAUTIFUL. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

NOW, CATEGORY TWO DEVELOPMENT WE'VE GOT.

WE HAD WE'RE TO SUGAR CUBES, CITY HALL PLAZA AND GALVESTON ISLAND BREWERY.

AND WE HAD THREE FOR SUGAR CUBES, ONE FOR CITY HALL AND TWO FOR THE BREWERY.

I THINK BETWEEN SUGAR CUBES, THE BREWERY.

ALL RIGHT. I LIKE THAT WE HAD SOMETHING OUT WEST THAT WAS.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY IN THE CITY BECAUSE THAT'S PREJUDICE TO THE PART THAT I LIVE IN.

BUT I LIKED AND APPRECIATED THE LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT THAT GROUP INVESTED OUT THERE IN THE CREATION OF KIND OF THAT LITTLE SMALL TOWN CITIES, NOT CITY CENTER. WHAT'S THE WORD FOR THAT? IS THE LITTLE COMMUNITY CENTER.

YEAH. AND BEING A WEST ENDER.

WELL, I'M ON 77TH.

I'M NOT REALLY A WEST END OR WESTERN, BUT, YOU KNOW, LIVING A FEW BLOCKS FROM IT.

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I WATCHED IT BEING DEVELOPED AND, YOU KNOW, THEY USED EVERY INCH OF SPACE THEY POSSIBLY COULD TO WORK REAL HARD WITH THE RENTAL AGENCY AND USING THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING.

SO THEY DID A REAL GOOD JOB.

THAT'S WHY I LIKED IT, BECAUSE THEY JUST DID SUCH A GOOD JOB AND IT REALLY ECONOMIZING WHAT THEY HAD AVAILABLE TO BUILD AND GROW THEIR BUSINESS.

IT'S A DIFFERENT RENTAL TOO, BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU CAN RENT OUT THOSE LITTLE CUBES FOR A WEEKEND OR A MONTH OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S A KIND OF A DIFFERENT RETAIL MODEL THAN WE HAD ELSEWHERE. THEY GOT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I THINK A DIFFERENT POP UP SHOPS.

ALL OF THESE HAVE A LOT OF ELIGIBILITY LEFT.

YES, ALL THREE OF THESE HAVE A LOT OF ELIGIBILITY LEFT.

ALL OF THEM HAVE.

THEY'RE JUST AT ONE OR TWO YEARS.

SO BETWEEN CITY HALL, THE SUGAR CUBES AND THE BREWERY.

SO DO WE WANT TO DO A SHOW OF HANDS JUST BETWEEN SUGAR CUBES AND THE BREWERY? I WOULD JUST DO SUGAR CUBES NOW SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY GOT THE MOST VOTES.

AND SINCE THEY'RE ALL SUGAR CUBES, EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT.

SUGAR CUBES.

OH, THAT'S SWEET, RIGHT? AND THEN NEXT YEAR, OK LAST ONE BEAUTIFICATION.

WE ARE TO LET'S SEE, WE HAVE A TWO WAY TIME BETWEEN TURNING POINT CHURCH AND CITY HALL PLAZA.

SO, CROCKETT PARK, WE'VE ALREADY DONE ONE TO CROCKETT PARK AND THE LOST BIRDS.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE ONE TO THAT.

SO WE'RE BETWEEN CITY HALL PLAZA AND THE TURNING POINT CHURCH.

DOES SO, CITY HALL PLAZA.

SO DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO SHOW OF HANDS ON THAT? DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT THE CHURCH IS? I LOVE WHAT THEY DID TO THE CHURCH.

IT IS JUST ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

I THINK IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

BROADWAY AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONE WHERE I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE A LOSER.

YEAH, YEAH. I LOVE THE LITTLE ISLAND.

I DID. I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO COOL.

YEAH, I JUST ALMOST CAN'T VOTE BETWEEN THAT.

THIS ONE HAS BOTH YEARS OF ELIGIBILITY LEFT THE THE CITY HALL IS 21.

THE CHURCH IS 2021 AS WELL.

YEAH. SO BOTH OF THEM HAVE THIS IS ONE WHERE WE COULD DO A PUBLIC PRIVATE IF WE WANTED TO.

BUT WE'VE GOT SO MANY AWARDS THAT I DON'T WANT TO BREAK IT UP.

SO LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST VOTE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE.

OKAY. SHOW OF HANDS.

SHOW OF HANDS FOR THE CHURCH.

YEAH. OH, JEEZ.

I NOMINATED THE CHURCH.

SO I'M A VOTE FOR THE CHURCH.

THAT'S MY SON. SO SO I NOMINATED LAST YEAR.

SO I'M GOING TO GO FOR.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE CHURCH.

DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH.

WE GOT MORE YEARS ON NOW.

YEAH, I DO LIKE THAT.

SO, CATHERINE, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE BEAUTIFICATION.

WE'VE GOT THE CHURCH DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE GOT SUGAR CUBES.

ARE YOU ALL CHECKING ME? YEAH. NO ENVIRONMENTAL.

WE'VE GOT A BABES BEACH.

HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

WE'VE GOT 10TH STREET PARTICIPATION.

WE'VE GOT LAW SPURS, PRIVATE INVESTMENT, WE'VE GOT FROST BANK, PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

WE'VE GOT PROFIT PARK REDEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE GOT COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH.

YES. AND THEN SPECIAL.

WE'VE GOT THE RESTORING GALVESTON SHOW.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT.

WE'RE DONE. NOT DONE.

NOT DONE. WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THAT.

WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THAT.

WE'RE US. SO THAT'S OUR SLATE.

THIS IS THE SLATE THAT WE WILL BE VOTE.

THAT'S THE SLATE THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

SO IN OUR MEETING, WHEN WE COME UP TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7 A AND WE'LL NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE SLATE OF PLANNING COMMISSION AWARDS.

THE SLATE THAT I JUST DESCRIBED OR THAT I JUST CALLED OUT WILL BE THE SLATE.

THAT WILL BE THAT.

I'LL BE ASKING FOR A MOTION ON OK.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO, COMMISSIONERS, I LITERALLY JUST HANDED OUT TO YOU GUYS AND ABSTENTION AFFIDAVIT FORM THAT BARRY TALKED ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, HOW I'D LIKE TO BE KIND OF THOROUGH WITH THINGS KIND OF GETTING MY CRAW.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.

I JUST AGE MYSELF.

YES, I SPOKE WITH THE CITY SECRETARY AND I LOOKED AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

SO BARRY ACTUALLY IS CORRECT IN TERMS OF FILING AND EXTENSION.

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I KNOW I HAVE TO GO BACK AND TELL AN EXTENSION AFFIDAVIT.

OKAY. NOW, I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT 176 KIND OF DEALS WITH MORE OF THE CONTRACTS TYPE OF THING.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE TYPICAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST FORMS THAT WE HAVE YOU FILL OUT.

SO CITY SECRETARY USUALLY SAYS YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW BOTH.

I'VE GIVEN YOU GUYS THE ABSTENTION AFFIDAVIT SO THAT IF YOU GUYS DO HAVE A CONFLICT, THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO FILL OUT AS WELL AS A CONFLICT QUESTIONNAIRE.

AND YOU HAND IN BOTH THOSE FORMS. IT'S A COUPLE, ALL THE BASES.

NOW, THE THING THAT IS INTERESTING, WHEN YOU FINALLY, ACCORDING TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHEN YOU FILE AN EXTENSION AGAIN, YOU DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE HEARING, ETCETERA, WHEN YOU.

SO GARY'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ABOUT THAT.

I THINK WE ARE THEY NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHEN SOMEBODY ABSTAINS AND IS ON THE DAIS AND IS JUST NOT SAYING YAY OR NAY, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MY FOOT IN THE POOL FOR THIS ONE.

WE USUALLY CALL THAT ABSTENTION.

THEY ABSTAIN. IF YOU GUYS HAVE A CONFLICT, I STILL WANT YOU GUYS TO SAY I HAVE A CONFLICT AND GET THEMSELVES OFF THE DAIS, GET YOURSELF AN ORDINANCE OR DO A LITTLE COFFEE BREAK OR WHATEVER UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT VERBIAGE FOR THESE BOARDS TO USE. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ON THE MINUTES THAT YOU ABSTAINED JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T PUT YOUR FOOT IN THE WATER OR YOU ACTUALLY HAD A CONFLICT.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? YOU GUYS HAVE BOTH THE FORMS. YES. NOW, WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ABOUT OUR MINUTES FROM AUGUST 2ND.

ARE WE GOING TO COVER THAT IN OUR MEETING? I THINK CAT AND I WOULD JUST KIND OF CAME UP WITH WHAT WAS THE VERBIAGE I REALLY LIKED WHAT YOU..

DECLARATION OF CONFLICT. YEAH.

OKAY. SO BECAUSE HAVE THOSE HAVE ANY SET OF MINUTES FOR EVERYBODY AT THE MEETING? AND SO WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF CHOICES AT THE END TO TRACK PEOPLE'S VOTES.

ONE OF THEM WILL BE DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, IT WILL BE PUT IN THERE.

AND THOSE AUGUST 2ND MINUTES HAVE BEEN CORRECTED TO BE WHATEVER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHAT THE CITY SECRETARY SAID, CITY COUNCIL BOTH.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OR THEN WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL 3:30 P.M..

SO. ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS GET TO.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.