AND WE'RE READY. OKAY. [Landmark Commission on June 6, 2022.] [00:00:02] WELL, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION. TODAY IS MONDAY, JUNE 6TH, AND THE TIME IS 4:00. WE'LL START WITH ATTENDANCE. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE ON ZOOM. COMMISSIONER ALBERSTADT. IS PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CLICK. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER KERSTING. PRESENT. VICE CHAIRPERSON LANG. SHE'S PRESENT. COMMISSIONER MCLEAN. PRESENT. CHAIRPERSON PATTERSON. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER STETZEL-THOMPSON. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SWANSON. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER WOOD IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS IS JOINING US RIGHT NOW. STAFF MEMBERS, PRESENT ARE MYSELF, CATHERINE GORMAN. PLANNING MANAGER, ADRIEL MONTALVAN, SENIOR PLANNER DANIEL LUNSFORD AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DONNA FAIRWEATHER. OK. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY OF THE CASES WE HAVE TODAY? SEEING NONE. AND SO. 22 YES. OK, SO WE WILL. THAT'S FAIR. SO, CATHERINE, WE'LL TAKE A PAUSE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR ALTERNATE UP TO SPEED BECAUSE HE'S ON ON ZOOM, RIGHT? CORRECT. MILTON, YOU'LL BE VOTING FOR THAT CASE, WHICH IS 22LC-022. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE ALL LEGAL. MOVING FORWARD. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? CORRECTIONS? SEEING NONE. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, CATHERINE? NO PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED. OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS, CASE 22LC-018, WHICH IS 1207 MARKET AVENUE D IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. YES. THIS IS 1207 MARKET AVENUE D. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING WINDOW REPLACEMENT. THERE WERE SEVEN PUBLIC NOTICES SENT. NOTED THAT NONE OF THOSE WERE RETURNED. PLEASE NOTE THE ZONING AND LAND USE INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE HISTORICAL AND ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE ON PAGE TWO OF YOUR STAFF REPORT. IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO RETAIN NEW WINDOWS. THIS WORK OCCURRED WITHOUT A PERMIT AND A RED TAG WAS ISSUED IN NOVEMBER OF 2020. PHOTOS OF THE HOUSE BEFORE AND AFTER THE WORK ARE INCLUDED IN EXHIBITS A AND B OF THE STAFF REPORT. THE NEW WINDOWS ARE A VINYL WITH A ONE OVER ONE LIGHT CONFIGURATION. PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. PAGES 2-4 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT. STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS. THE DESIGN STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT WHEN WINDOW REPLACEMENT IS NECESSARY, VINYL WINDOWS NOT BE USED. DUE TO NOT CONFORMANCE WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE REQUEST BE DENIED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. SPECIFIC CONDITION OR CONDITION ONE. ALL VINYL WINDOWS SHALL BE REPLACED WITH WOOD WINDOWS WITH A TWO OVER TWO LIGHT CONFIGURATION. THE REPLACEMENT WINDOWS SHALL BE INSTALLED WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE DATE OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION DECISION. HOWEVER, IF THE COMMISSION FINDS THAT THE REQUEST DOES CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS SPECIFIC CONDITIONS LISTED AS SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE IN STANDARD CONDITIONS, TWO THROUGH FIVE ON PAGE FOUR OF YOUR STAFF REPORT SHOULD BE APPLICABLE. AND NOW WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS. THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THESE ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. LAST SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THESE ARE THE BEFORE AND AFTER. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS BEFORE. AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, THAT'S THE CURRENT WINDOWS THAT WERE REPLACED. AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFFS REPORT. OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M GATHERING FROM THIS REPORT THAT THE NUMBER OF WINDOWS IS EIGHT WINDOWS? TEN. TEN WINDOWS? YES MA'AM. TEN WINDOWS OKAY. AND ALL TEN WINDOWS BECAUSE I SEE EIGHT ARE IN THE REPORT SHOWING THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE WINDOWS THAT WERE DONE. [00:05:04] ALL TEN OF THOSE WINDOWS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST. NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN OMITTED FOR REASONS BECAUSE IT'S ON A LESSER? CORRECT. IT'S THE ENTIRETY OF THE HOUSE. YES. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. CASTRO OR MR. CASTRO IS AVAILABLE. MRS. COMEAUX OR MR. CASTRO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY. OKAY. IF YOU COULD, PLEASE, BEFORE YOU START, IF YOU IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SIGNING IN AND STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. HI MY NAME IS CHELSEA COMEAUX. OKAY. AND IF YOU COULD SIGN IN MRS. COMEAUX? CUTE LITTLE HOUSE. THANK YOU. JUST ADORABLE. ALL RIGHT. TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO CONVINCE US THAT WE NEED TO LET YOU DO. WE NEED TO MAKE THIS DECISION FOR YOU. THEY HAD A LOT OF CRACKS AND HOLES IN IT. I COULD NEVER GET IT TO RETAIN THE AC. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S REALLY HOT DOWN HERE. SO MY HOUSE WOULD NEVER STAY COOL AND. IS IT? SO I HAD GOTTEN THE WINDOWS AND I HAD ALREADY THOUGHT THAT THE I MEAN, SO FAR THE PEOPLE WHO I'VE TALKED TO HAVE BEEN GREAT. BUT WHEN I FIRST TALKED TO STATEWIDE REMODELING, I HAD THOUGHT THEY HAD GOTTEN THE PERMIT BEFOREHAND. I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS GOOD. I'M A FIRST TIME HOMEOWNER. AS FAR AS I KNEW EVERYTHING WAS GREAT. I DID NOT KNOW I NEEDED TO DO THIS TO UPDATE MY WINDOWS. SO. OKAY. HOW LONG AGO DID YOU INSTALL THESE WINDOWS? NOVEMBER 2020. NOVEMBER 2020. OKAY. SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. COMEAUX? NO. IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS? YEAH, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE, AND SIGN IN. FOR THE RECORD, IT'S KIERA KING. AND I COME FROM STATEWIDE REMODELING WE'RE THE REMODELERS WHO DID THE WINDOWS. OKAY. ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO TELL THE COMMISSION? YES. SO I'M COMING INTO THIS LATE INTO THE GAME, I'M THE NEW PRODUCTION MANAGER FOR THE OFFICE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DID APPLY FOR THE PERMIT BACK WHEN WE ORIGINALLY FIRST SIGNED THE CONTRACT WITH HER, AND FOR SOME REASON THERE WAS SOME SORT OF DELAY IN GETTING THE PERMIT APPROVED. WHOEVER WAS IN THE PERMITTING OFFICE AT THE TIME HAD REACHED OUT VERY LATE AFTER WE HAD ALREADY INSTALLED THE WINDOWS SAYING THAT THEY APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THE PERMIT AND HAD SORT OF OWNED UP TO THAT FAULT OF NOT APPROVING IT IN A TIMELY MANNER. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF OUR VENDORS AS FAR AS THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR HER TERRITORY AND NONE OF OUR VENDORS MAKE IMPACT RATED WINDOWS IN THAT WOOD LOOK WHAT THEY HAVE SUGGESTED TO ALL OF US IS THAT WE PAINT IT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WOOD SO IT CAN STILL STAND UP AGAINST THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, BUT ALSO GIVE HER THE SAFETY THAT SHE WOULD NEED IF THERE WERE A STORM TO COME IN. OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS, DOES THE COMPANY AS A PRACTICE REALIZE THAT THEY NEED TO OBTAIN A PERMIT BEFORE THEY START WORKING? ABSOLUTELY. BEFORE THEY START ANY WORK? ABSOLUTELY. THIS ISN'T AN ABNORMAL THING FOR US. WE PULL PERMITS ON OUR JOBS. WE ALSO DO BATHROOMS AND WE PULL THOSE ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO HAVING IT NOT APPROVED IS KIND OF UNNORMAL FOR US. AND WE SORT OF WENT ABOUT BUSINESS IN THE STANDARD OF WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, WE DO JOBS ALL THE TIME. THEY'LL APPROVE IT JUST AS THEY WOULD ANY OTHER JOB. ONE OTHER QUESTION, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE A NEW REPRESENTATIVE SO YOU WEREN'T THERE IN REAL TIME, BUT WAS THE COMPANY AWARE THAT THE HOUSE WAS IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THAT THERE ARE GUIDELINES FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THAT THOSE APPLY TO THAT PROPERTY? SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE BALL WAS DROPPED, AS FAR AS MY UNDERSTANDING, FROM THE SALESMAN TO THE HOMEOWNER TO THE COMPANY, NOBODY AT THAT POINT HAD REALIZED IT WAS IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THEN I'M ASSUMING AT THE PERMITTING PART IT WOULD BE DENIED AT THAT SENSE FOR US TO FIND OUT. WELL, GENERALLY, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION WORK, EVEN IF IT'S JUST PUTTING UP A SIMPLE FENCE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS [00:10:07] IN AN HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGER THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE THROUGH HER OFFICE ADMINISTRATIVELY. IF NOT, THEN IT WOULD COME BEFORE LANDMARK. IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGER THAT. AND SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED AT THAT TIME THAT, HEY, THIS IS AN ADDRESS THAT WANTS TO DO WORK AND IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. OKAY. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENED, BUT THAT'S GENERALLY THE PROCESS. SO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, IF YOU WILL, HOW THIS WORKS. SO BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND TALKING TO US. YEAH. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR IT TO BE DENIED OR APPROVED. WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE ALSO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, HER NEIGHBORS. AND IF WE COULD WORK WITH THE MANUFACTURER TO FIND A PAINTING ON THAT ONE WINDOW THAT IS FACING THE STREET TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COULD MATCH A LITTLE BIT BETTER. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION PROCESS. THIS PROCESS THAT WE'RE DETERMINING TODAY IS JUST BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO RETAIN THE WINDOWS THAT WERE PUT IN. SO IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ELSE, THEN YOU WOULD MAKE AN APPLICATION, COME THROUGH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER AND PLANNING, AND THEN YOU'D GO THROUGH THE TYPICAL CHAIN OF COMMAND TO GETTING SOMETHING ELSE APPROVED. SO AS A WHOLE, THE COMMISSION CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY ALTERNATE PRODUCT, ONLY WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US, WHICH IS EITHER ALLOW OR NOT ALLOW THESE WINDOWS BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE REPORTS. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HI. I WAS JUST GOING TO. THIS HAS BEEN TWO YEARS SINCE THIS HAPPENED, CORRECT? MM HMM. NOW THERE'S TEN WINDOWS. HOW MANY WINDOWS ARE ACTUALLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET? I'M COUNTING. JUST ONE. WELL, YOU'VE GOT YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT ACTUALLY TWO ON THE I THINK THAT'S THE. SO THE ONE ABOVE THE DOOR WE DID NOT REPLACE. OH, I UNDERSTAND. HOW MANY ARE ON, I BELIEVE THE WEST SIDE? FOUR. FOUR. YES. YOU CAN SEE THEM IN THE PHOTO, AT LEAST I'M SAYING FOUR. OKAY. NOW MM HMM. SO PERHAPS THERE'S A COMPROMISE THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED WHERE WE HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, THE FRONT ONE AND THE TWO MOST FORWARD WINDOWS TO THE STREET ON EACH SIDE BE IN COMPLIANCE AS OPPOSED TO ALL OF THEM AROUND THE HOUSE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANY KIND OF A COMPROMISE OR NOT. NOW, IS THAT SOMETHING WE GENERALLY ALLOWED BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THIS ONE IS NOT IT'S ALL ORIGINAL STRUCTURE? IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A REAL QUICK QUESTION. DO YOU GUYS STILL HAVE THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS? NO. NO WE HAVE A DUMPSTER OUT BACK AND THEY GET TAKEN OUT EACH NIGHT. WELL, THANKFULLY, WE HAVE LOTS OF RESOURCES IN GALVESTON, AND YOU CAN STILL GET THEM AT THE ANTIQUE WAREHOUSE, GALVESTON HISTORIC FOUNDATION, ANTIQUE WAREHOUSE AND OTHER PLACES. WELL SO MANY OF THESE WINDOWS ARE PRETTY COMMON IN SIZE, YOU'D BE SURPRISED. BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER TIME, ISN'T IT? IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT? NO. OKAY. THANK. THE OTHER TWO ARE ON THE BACK. I GUESS WHEN THEY HAD MOVED THE HOUSE THEY HAD AN ADDITION IN THE BACK, LIKE A LITTLE WASHROOM. AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO EXTRA WINDOWS. THEY DID NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE. THOSE WERE THERE WHEN I HAD PURCHASED IT. OKAY. AND DO YOU BY I'M ASSUMING THERE'S DOCUMENTATION VIA PHOTOS THAT SHOW THAT THOSE WINDOWS WERE THERE WHEN YOU PURCHASED THE HOUSE. I'M NOT SURE I CAN. WAS THE HOUSE BY CHANCE ON THE MULTIPLE LISTING SERVICE? IT'S ON ZILLOW. OH, WELL THEN THERE'S PROBABLY FAIR DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE THE RULES AS THEY APPLY IS WHEN YOU PURCHASE AN HISTORIC PROPERTY OR PROPERTY IN AN HISTORIC DISTRICT BECAUSE IT COULD BE LANDMARK, WHICH WOULD ALSO APPLY OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT, YOU ARE PERMITTED TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN WHATEVER IS ON THE HOUSE WHEN YOU PURCHASE IT. IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN. WHEN YOU WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL IS, YOU HAVE TO FIND SOME KIND OF RESEARCH OR EVIDENCE THAT WOULD SHOW THAT'S WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE. THAT'S HOW WE GET INTO A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE RAILINGS AND BALUSTRADES AND DOORS AND SO FORTH. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GO. AND THE IDEA IS JUST TO PRESERVE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE DISTRICT, BECAUSE AS A WHOLE IT INCREASES THE PROPERTY VALUES FOR EVERYONE WHEN WE DO, IF NOT, PEOPLE WILL START ENCLOSING PORCHES AND YOU GO BACK TO THE SEVENTIES. IT'S NOT PRETTY. SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OK THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE ON THE LEFT OR ON THE RIGHT? [00:15:04] NO. SEEING NONE. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CASE 22LC-018, 1207 MARKET STREET. GUYS. SARAH. I MOVE THAT WE DENY CASE NUMBER 22LC-018 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. IS THAT? DID I GET THAT? IS THAT. WAS THAT STATED RIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU. YOU AGREE TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL? YES. OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. SECOND. SOME PEOPLE LIKE ME MAY BE ON SINUS MEDICATION AND ARE MISSING IT OK. [LAUGHTER] SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SECOND TO HER MOTION, IF SHE WILL APPROVE IT, THAT WE ALLOW THE WINDOWS IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, THAT THE RESIDENT CLAIMS WERE ON THE HOUSE WHEN SHE PURCHASED THE HOUSE, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING WE AFFORD ANY NEW OWNER THAT BUYS THEIR PROPERTY. SO AS LONG AS THE OWNER CAN SUBSTANTIATE VIA PHOTO SOMEHOW THAT THOSE WINDOWS ARE ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE ON THAT SMALL ADDITION WERE PRESENT WHEN SHE BOUGHT THE HOUSE. AND THEY ARE OMITTED FROM THIS DECISION TODAY. SO WHAT I NEED YOU TO DO IS AGREE TO THAT AND RESTATE THE MOTION. IF YOU AGREE. I BELIEVE IT WAS SARAH'S MOTION. HAD TWO WINDOWS WHEN SHE PURCHASED THE HOUSE. I'M TRYING TO THINK HOW TO TO ALLOW TWO WINDOWS IN THE BACK PENDING VERIFICATION. BUT YOU'RE STILL DENYING THE REQUEST? OKAY. THE OTHER EIGHT WOULD BE DENYING WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THE TWO THAT WERE ON THE HOUSE WHEN SHE BOUGHT. I'M SUGGESTING CAN WE MAKE THAT AMENDMENT. YES. TO ALLOW THOSE PENDING VERIFICATION WITH STAFF? YES. THAT'S A GREAT AMENDMENT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS. WELL, WE'RE MOVING ON TO CASE 22LC-019, WHICH IS 1117 MARKET. THIS IS THE. IS THIS THE DEFERRAL? YES. STAFF IS REQUESTING A DEFERRAL. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. STAFF IS REQUESTING A DEFERRAL OF THE ABOVE REFERENCED REQUEST UNTIL THE JULY 18TH REGULAR MEETING IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO STAFF'S COMMENTS. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER CASE 22LC-019. SHARON'S GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SARAH'S MADE THE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO CASE 22LC-022, 2202 STRAND. DOUG IS SITTING THIS ONE OUT. 21. AND WHAT? DID I MISS ONE? YEAH. 21. OH, GOSH, SORRY. LET ME BACK UP. MOVING ON TO CASE 22LC-021. YEAH, YEAH. I SAW MARKET AND SKIPPED IT. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE ANTIHISTAMINES BEFORE A MEETING. [LAUGHTER] OK. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSION, GETTING BACK ON TRACK. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CASE 22LC-021 1317 MARKET A REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING FRONT PORCH RAILINGS. SIX NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RETURNED. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE FRONT PORCH, INCLUDING ADDING RAILINGS. THE RAILINGS WOULD BE WOOD AND MATCH THE STANDARD HANDRAIL DETAIL, WHICH WAS INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT A. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THE RAILING IS DESIRED FOR SAFETY CONCERNS. PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT CONFORMANCE. STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED CHANGES DO NOT GENERALLY CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. THE DESIGN STANDARDS STATE THAT AN ORIGINAL PORCH SHALL BE MAINTAINED. THE APPLICANT HAS NOT PROVIDED EVIDENCE THAT THE HOUSE PREVIOUSLY HAD PORCH RAILINGS. A PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE 1969 HISTORIC DISTRICT SURVEY SHOWS THAT AT THAT TIME THE HOUSE DID NOT HAVE ANY RAILINGS THAT WAS INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT B. THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED A SAFETY CONCERN. HOWEVER, THE BUILDING CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE RAILINGS FOR PORCHES AND DECKS 30 INCHES OR LESS FROM THE GROUND. [00:20:05] STAFF RECOMMENDATION, DUE TO NON CONFORMANCE WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST. HOWEVER, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION FINDS THE REQUEST CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS. THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS MAY BE APPROPRIATE SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT INDICATED IN ATTACHMENT A OF THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATION. A. THE APPLICANT SHALL WORK WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER AND BUILDING OFFICIAL TO MINIMIZE THE HEIGHT AND VISUAL IMPACT OF THE RAILING. ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX ARE STANDARD AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES. AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS THE PROPOSED DRAWING SHOWING THE PROPOSED RAILING. THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE PICTURES FROM THE 1969 SURVEY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST, AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFFS REPORT. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY. WELL, WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. AGUIAR OR GASA CONSTRUCTION IS AVAILABLE. IT'S JUST ME, RICARDO. I'M THE LANDLORD. OKAY. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND SIGNING IN, PLEASE. I'M RICARDO AGUIAR. I'M THE LANDLORD FOR 1317 MARKET. OKAY. WE REALLY WANT TO JUST ADD THE HANDRAILS TO KEEP IT WITH THE GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION JUST FOR TO KEEP EVERYONE HAPPY AND THE INSURANCE HAPPY BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY PRESSING FOR THE HANDRAILS BECAUSE IT HAS MORE THAN THREE STEPS ON THE FRONT TO GET ON TOP OF THE PROPERTY AS SHOWN IN THE PICTURES. AND IT'S MY FIRST HISTORICAL PROPERTY, SO I'M TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING RIGHT. AND THE PORCH NEEDS WORK. IT REALLY DOES. AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE APPEALING FROM THE STREET. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PROPERTY MANAGER? HAVE YOU SUBMITTED A DRAWING OF ANY KIND FOR A RAIL? THE ONLY. WHO DID THE DRAWING? I DIDN'T CHECK THAT OUT. THE DRAWING WAS DONE BY RIVERA'S DESIGNS. IS THAT A 42 YEAH IT'S A 42 INCH RAIL WE CAN BRING IT DOWN TO WHATEVER MEASUREMENTS. I JUST KNOW THE INSURANCE WANTS IT AT THE HIGH OF 34, 32 INCHES, I BELIEVE. THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS AWARE THAT IT'S IN AN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND SO THE RULE OF BRINGING IT UP TO CODE DOES NOT APPLY? YEAH, BUT BECAUSE I RECENTLY PURCHASED IT, THEY'VE BEEN GIVING ME A LOT OF PRESSURE AND I WANT TO REDO THE FRONT PORCH. I MEAN, THE PROPERTY DOESN'T HAVE VERY GOOD STREET APPEAL, SO WE'RE TRYING TO REDO IT AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT THE BEST WE CAN FOR WHOEVER WANTS TO RENT IT IN THE FUTURE OR WHATEVER HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY. HAVE YOU APPLIED FOR A WINDSTORM CERTIFICATE FOR IT? YES. THAT VERIFIES IT IS AN HISTORIC PROPERTY. YES. BECAUSE GENERALLY WITH THAT DOCUMENT TO YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY, THEY REALLY CAN'T INSIST THAT YOU CHANGE RAILING OR WINDOWS. I UNDERSTAND, BUT THEY'VE BEEN RAISING MY PREMIUM BECAUSE OF IT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO AND I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S FAIRLY DANGEROUS WITHOUT HAVING THE HANDRAILS BECAUSE IT'S FAIRLY STEEP. IT'S ONLY I THINK IT'S LIKE 2.6 INCHES, 2.6 FEET TALL. SO IF ANYONE FALLS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE SENIORS, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF LIABILITY THERE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS. AND IT LOOKS GOOD AND APPROVED BY THE GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION. DID YOU SAY THAT THIS RAILING WAS APPROVED BY OR RECOMMENDED? NO, YEAH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED. THEY TOLD ME TO DESIGN IT LIKE MY NEIGHBORS OR WHATEVER WITH A ONE BY SIX ON TOP AND THE PICKETS AND THE TWO BY FOUR IN THE BOTTOM. I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW IT'S APPROVED, NORMALLY. I'M NOT TOO SURE. IT'S MY FIRST TIME. MY CONTRACTOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, BUT HE HAD FAMILY ISSUES, SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. GENERALLY, GALVESTON HISTORIC FOUNDATION DOESN'T MAKE THOSE KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A LIABILITY PURPOSE. SO OH OKAY. YEAH, WE'RE COMMONLY CONFUSED, BUT YEAH. OKAY. WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER ON ANOTHER. [LAUGHTER]. THE CONTRACTOR AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON ANOTHER PROPERTY AND HE'S FAMILIAR WITH THAT STANDARD. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE ONE HE RECOMMENDED TO ME. OH, GOOD. OKAY. SO WE JUST NEED TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS NOT GALVESTON HISTORIC FOUNDATION. OKAY. IT WAS A PLANNING DEPARTMENT HERE AT GALVESTON HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER. UNDERSTOOD. GREAT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT? I JUST [INAUDIBLE]. YES, WELL, I'M JUST AS A LIABILITY ISSUE I WOULDN'T. I'D BE TERRIFIED TO HAVE RAILINGS, NOT HAVE RAILINGS ON THAT FRONT PORCH FOR FEAR OF ANYBODY BACKING UP. AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T GO AGAINST YOU KNOW, IT GOES AGAINST THE RULES AND ALL THAT. BUT I THINK IN THIS SITUATION WITH THE SOCIETY THE WAY IT IS, YOU'LL GET SUED AND IT'LL BE ALL YOUR FAULT FOR NOT DOING IT. [00:25:07] AND I GO AGAINST, YOU KNOW, IT GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING WE AGREE TO. BUT I CAN THINK OF VERY, VERY FEW PORCHES ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND THAT DON'T HAVE A RAILING OF SOME KIND. WELL, AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A LANDMARK COMMISSION, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE A RULE FOR EVERYTHING IN THE BOOK. SOMETIMES THERE ARE RULES THAT WE NEED TO RECONSIDER FOR A DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON CASE 22LC-021. STATE THAT. WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN. SO I'M GONNA LET DONNA REIN ME IN IF IT'S NOT PERMISSIBLE. STEPHANIE GO AHEAD. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, STEPHANIE. LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE UNMUTED. OK. YOU SHOULD BE UNMUTED. HMM. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. MILTON, COULD YOU SPEAK AND SEE IF WE CAN HEAR YOU? MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WITH ZOOM. OH, NO, WE CAN'T HEAR MILTON EITHER. WELL, STEPHANIE, COULD YOU PUT IN THE CHAT WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? AND I'LL READ IT OUT. SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMEONE TO HELP US. I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE MOTION UNTIL WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR WHAT MRS. LANG HAS TO SAY. SHE TYPES PRETTY FAST. I ASSURE YOU. THERE WE GO. STEPHANIE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE 22LC-021 WITH STEPS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DENIAL. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SECOND THIS MOTION BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION? WE DO NOT HAVE A SECOND. OK MOTION FAILS AND WE'RE GOING TO ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO MY FIRST STATEMENT. THAT'S I'LL LET DONNA REIN ME IN. BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A RAILING FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY BASED ON SAFETY REASONS, IF FOR NOTHING ELSE. I THINK DOUG BRINGS OUT A REALLY GOOD POINT. THERE ARE RAILINGS THAT ARE IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT ARE DEEMED APPROPRIATE FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. IT MAY NOT REACH A 42 INCH HEIGHT OR A 48 INCH HEIGHT. IT WOULD LOOK MORE APPROPRIATE TO AN HISTORIC PROPERTY. HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER CAN WORK WITH YOU ON WHAT IS. SECOND. I'M STILL MAKING MY MOTION. STILL MAKING MY MOTION. OH. SOMETHING THAT HE'S WORKED WITH STAFF WITH THAT FALLS WITHIN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS THAT A MOTION I CAN MAKE. IN OTHER WORDS, I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE ALLOW HIM TO HAVE A HANDRAIL, BUT ONE THAT HE HAS WORKED WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER ON AND THEN RETURN TO LANDMARK FOR FINAL APPROVAL. WELL, I THINK IF YOU'RE ASKING HIM TO GET A DESIGN THAT THE H [INAUDIBLE] OFFICER IS IN LINE WITH, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY HE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK. OKAY. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THAT'S MY MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. DISCUSSION? I LOVE THIS LITTLE HOUSE WITHOUT THE RAILING, BUT I AGREE THAT IT IS A SAFETY RISK TO HAVE A HOUSE OF RAISED TO ANY. I MEAN, MOST OF YOUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES LIKE DOW CHEMICAL, FOR INSTANCE, WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN DIE FROM A FOUR FOOT FALL FROM SOMETHING AS LOW AS FOUR FOOT. YOU COULD FALL AND BE KILLED. SO I THINK IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. SO I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW SOMETHING TO GO FORWARD IN THIS CASE. AND SO I'M GLAD WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE ARE READY FOR A VOTE. [00:30:02] ALL IN FAVOR. STEPHANIE, COULD YOU VOTE? I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR. THERE WAS A COMMENT BY MS. LANG I WANT TO SAY THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO READ OUT. I CAN READ IT. I BELIEVE THERE ARE SEVERAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT SUBSTANTIATE A LACK OF RAILING, WHILE NOT MANY IN GALVESTON, THERE ARE SOME, AND THIS TYPE OF PORCH STYLE SANS RAILING THAT ARE SEEN PLACES EAST OF GALVESTON ALL THE WAY TO NEW ORLEANS. THE HEIGHT OF THE PORCH IS NOT RAISED TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT IT CONFLICTS WITH CODE. IT'S NOT EVEN FOUR FEET. AND I THINK NOW, YOU GUYS, IF THAT'S THE END OF THE DISCUSSION. WELL. I THINK WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THOSE ISSUES AND REASONS. SO WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH A VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO ALLOW THIS PROPERTY TO PUT RAILINGS UP THAT ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, ALTHOUGH NOT ORIGINAL TO THE PROPERTY FOR REASONS THAT ARE OBVIOUS RAISE YOUR HAND. I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT MS. LANG VOTED IN OPPOSITION. OKAY. COULD WE DO A SOUND CHECK, STEPHANIE AND MILTON? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. VERY GOOD. CAN YOU HEAR? YES, WE CAN. THANK YOU, MARISSA. MOVING ON. THE NEXT CASE, DOUG WILL STEP ASIDE. HE HAS A CONFLICT WITH THIS ONE, AND OUR OTHER ALTERNATE WILL PARTICIPATE, IF WE CAN HEAR HIM. CAN WE HEAR HIM NOW? YES. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CASE 22LC-022 2202 STRAND AVENUE B. ALL RIGHTY. SO THIS IS AS STATED 2202 STRAND, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE WILLIAM MOODY BUILDING, REQUESTS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ALTERATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING THE INSTALLATION OF A ROOFTOP PENTHOUSE AND DECK AND A STREET LEVEL CANOPY. THERE WERE SIX PUBLIC NOTICES SENT. NONE WERE RETURNED. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IN ORDER TO MODIFY THE WILLIAM MOODY BUILDING IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN THE 1880S, I BELIEVE IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING SIGNIFICANT RENOVATIONS. AND OF COURSE THE APPLICANT IS NOW REQUESTING ADDITION OF A STREET LEVEL CANOPY, A ROOFTOP DECK AND ASSOCIATED PENTHOUSE ACCESS. AS PART OF THESE RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS. MATERIAL LIST IS AS FOLLOWS, PROPOSAL IS BOARD AND BATTEN PENTHOUSE WALLS ON THE LITTLE TOP PENTHOUSE. WE'LL SEE THAT IN A MOMENT. METAL PENTHOUSE ROOF, METAL TUBE HANDRAILS ON THE BALCONY CANOPY AND THEN THE OVERALL METAL CANOPY STRUCTURE OF BEAMS, PIPE COLUMNS, ETC.. PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE STAFF REPORT. STAFF FINDS A CANOPY TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ABOVE DESIGN STANDARDS. SANBORN MAPS, WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, INDICATE THE BUILDING DID ORIGINALLY HAVE A CANOPY ON THE SOUTH AND THE EAST FAÇADE. THEY WERE BOTH REMOVED BY 1947, BUT THE OLDER SANBORN SHOW CANOPY IS ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE AT SOME POINT, AT ONE POINT, BOTH OF THOSE. THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL DEPICTS A VERY SIMPLE FLAT CANOPY, WHICH WILL ALSO SERVE AS A WALL CAP BALCONY WITH SIMPLE HANDRAIL DESIGN AND CANOPY COLUMNS WHICH ARE QUITE MINIMAL AND DO NOT DETRACT FROM THE FAÇADE OR BLOCK IT. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A SMALL PENTHOUSE ON THE ROOF TO ACCESS A NEW VIEWING DECK THAT'S PROPOSED. AGAIN REFERENCING THE PROPOSED PLANS THE PENTHOUSE IS VERY SMALL IN SCOPE. IT'S NOT EASILY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET GENERALLY SPEAKING. THE DECK IS NOT VISIBLE AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING ROOF PARAPET. STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING. WHILE THE PENTHOUSE IS NOT EASILY, SIGNIFICANTLY VISIBLE, OTHER MATERIALS SUCH AS STUCCO ARE MORE HARMONIOUS WITH THE BUILDING'S FAÇADE OVERALL. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS REQUESTS BE APPROVED WITH SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE, WHICH WOULD BE THE EXTERIOR MODIFICATION, SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT IN ATTACHMENT A , I ACCEPT THE PENTHOUSE WALL SHALL BE STUCCO INSTEAD OF BOARD AND BATTEN PLUS SPECIFIC CONDITIONS TWO THREE IN STANDARD CONDITIONS, I BELIEVE FOUR THROUGH EIGHT. AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS FOR YOU. SO HERE THIS IS THE BUILDING ITSELF. I'M SURE WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT AN THE CHANGES IT'S GONE THROUGH AND THE IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH THE RENOVATIONS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE ARE THE ARCHITECT'S DRAWINGS AND ISOMETRIC RENDERS SHOWING WHAT THE PROPERTY WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE BALCONY AND HANDRAILS. AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE LITTLE BIT OF THE PENTHOUSE STICKING UP TOWARD THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AREA OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH AND ACTUALLY TO THE THERE'S TWO EASTS. THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE I BELIEVE IS TO THE, WHICH DIRECTION IS THAT? [00:35:03] CATHERINE, HELP ME OUT HERE. [LAUGHTER] ROOF GARDEN IS TO THE WEST. OKAY, TO THE WEST. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES STAFFS REPORT. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NONE. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE OWNER, MR. BASSETT OR THE ARCHITECT, MR. EASTERWOOD, WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY. YES, MA'AM. BRAX EASTERWOOD 123 25TH STREET. THANK YOU TO STAFF DANIEL AND THE COMMISSION TODAY. OTHERWISE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION. THIS BUILDING, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS BUILDING. COLONEL BUBBIE'S, FORMERLY KNOWN AS. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD AN APPROVAL ON THIS PROPERTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AND THE CANOPY WAS PART OF THAT APPROVAL. IT'S LONG SINCE EXPIRED. AND SO WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK NOW. THERE'S THE ONE CHANGE FROM THEN TO NOW, AND THAT'S JUST THAT THE CONSTRUCTION AS IT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY WAS A CONCRETE PLANK DECK. AND NOW WE'VE GONE TO A WOOD DECK THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE WELL, WE'RE MODELING IT AFTER THE BUILDING THAT THE GRACIE'S MOVED FROM BACK TO. SO THAT WOULD BE THE CORNER OF 23RD AND STRAND. SO IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION WITH WOOD JOIST AND A MODIFIED BITUMEN ROOF. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE PENTHOUSE GOES, WE'RE FINE WITH CHANGING THAT TO A STUCCO FINISH. THE WEST WALL OF THE BUILDING IS STUCCO, SO IT PROBABLY WOULD DISAPPEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE BOARD AND BATTEN WOULD. BUT WE'RE LUCKY IN THAT THE PARAPET THERE IS PRETTY TALL. SO IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, THERE USED TO BE A FOURTH STORY ON THE BUILDING AND SO THAT PARAPET WAS CUT AT AN ELEVATION THAT ALLOWS US TO HIDE IT PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY, REALLY. AND THEN I GUESS THE LAST THING ON THAT WOULD WELL, NOT ON THE CANOPY ITSELF. PART OF OUR APPROVAL PERMIT APPROVAL CONDITIONS WERE TO PROVIDE THE CANOPY, THE FIRE MARSHAL, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE EXIT OUT OF THE BUILDING, THE FIRE MARSHAL THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO HAVE ANOTHER WAY FOR TENANTS TO GET OUT ONTO THAT BUILDING, ONTO THAT SURFACE AND OR IN WORST CASE SCENARIO, HAVE TO USE A LADDER FROM THE THIRD LEVEL. SO HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN THAT BUILDING? IN THE WHOLE BUILDING? EIGHT. EIGHT. EIGHT UNITS, FOUR ON EACH FLOOR. PLUS THE STOREFRONT, OK. PLUS THE STORE. BUT SOME OF THEM ARE TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS, CORRECT? YES, THERE ARE BIG ONES. YEAH. SO THAT'S QUITE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO EVACUATE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, SHOULD YOU NEED TO. MM HMM. MM HMM. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BRAX. NO, NO. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO NOTE TO MR. BASSETT THAT THE ONCE FORMER COLONEL BUBBIE'S HAS TURNED INTO QUITE A GEM ON THE STRAND. AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. I'M SURE IT WAS NOT. IT PROBABLY TOOK ABOUT TEN TIMES LONGER THAN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS. [LAUGHTER] SO WE APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE IT. SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE AUDIENCE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THIS CASE? NO. OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CASE 22LC-022 2202 STRAND. SARAH. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE 22LC-022 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE UPPER PENTHOUSE IS STUCCO INSTEAD OF THE WHATEVER IT WAS. THANK YOU. PER STAFFS RECOMMENDATION. SHARON HAS A SECOND. DISCUSSION? NO. ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE. THEN WE'LL MOVE FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. MILTON, ARE YOU VOTING? YOU'RE VOTING ON THIS ONE IN FAVOR? YEAH IN FAVOR. YES. MOTION WAS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS. CASE 22LC-023 1306 HARBOR VIEW REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK. FOR THIS 24 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE RETURNED THAT ONE IN FAVOR. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK. [00:40:03] CONSTRUCTED IN 50 OOPS LET ME GET MY GLASSES. CONSTRUCTED IN 1958, THE JOHN AND ALEXANDRA MEHOS HOUSE IS ONE OF GALVESTON'S BEST EXAMPLES OF MID-CENTURY MODERN RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE. THE HOUSE IS LOCATED IN THE HARBOR VIEW SUBDIVISION. THE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN THE WORK OF HOUSTON LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HERBERT SKOGLAND, WHO PLATTED A CURVILINEAR STREET ALONG THE BAY THAT ENDS IN A CIRCLE OF HARBOR VIEW CIRCLE AND CONNECTS THE OTHER PRIMARY STREETS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE HOUSE WAS DESIGNED BY ARCHITECT THOMAS PRICE, GALVESTON'S BEST MODERNIST ARCHITECT. THE PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES FOR NEW GALVESTON LANDMARKS AND THE LANDMARK I'M SORRY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HEAR THEIR REQUEST AT THE JUNE 7TH MEETING AND CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION REGARDING REQUESTS FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS. AND IT WILL BE HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 23RD. AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. OKAY. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WE ALSO HAVE SOME PICTURES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OF THE INTERIOR COURTYARD. PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST. AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT. I KNOW THIS IS A LANDMARK, BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS APPLICATION FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THE OWNER IS PRESENT, AND LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL. NOT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT FOR THE RECORD. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M DWAYNE JONES. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GALVESTON'S HISTORICAL FOUNDATION. BUT THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FOUNDATION. THIS IS MY PERSONAL HOME. I PURCHASED THIS IN 2009 AFTER HURRICANE IKE, AND IT HAD ABOUT TWO FEET OR SO OF WATER IN THE PROPERTY. SO I PURCHASED IT AT THAT TIME AND REMOVED SOME INCOMPATIBLE AND INCORRECT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND OPENED IT BACK UP. BUT THE HOUSE WAS IN AMAZINGLY ORIGINAL CONDITION, INCLUDING THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS, INCLUDING MANY THINGS, A PART OF IT. IT'S BEEN A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE. THOMAS PRICE'S WORK IS RAPIDLY BEING OBLITERATED ON THE ISLAND AND MANY OF THEM DISAPPEARING. AND SO I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE IT PROTECTED FOR THE FUTURE. DEFINITELY. I DON'T KNOW. [LAUGHTER] THOSE GARDENS AREN'T QUITE RIGHT. THE TOUGHEST. IS THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR THE SAME ARCHITECT, BY CHANCE? NO, IT'S NOT AND THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS A LANDMARK, ISN'T IT? YEAH. YEAH. HOW FASCINATING TO SO IT'S A 1960 AND THIS ONE'S 1958. THAT ONE WAS DONE BY FOR THE PAUL'S FAMILY. IT WAS DONE OUT OF AN ARCHITECT, A YOUNG ARCHITECT OUT OF HOUSTON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. JONES? NO. YEAH. HAD A NICE LANDSCAPE, IF YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH THERE'S JUST I DIDN'T PUT IT IN, BUT IT'S A WONDERFUL BOOMERANG PATIO ON THE BACK. THAT'S REALLY. THAT'S ALL ORIGINAL? THAT'S NOT ORIGINAL BUT IT'S ORIGINAL [INAUDIBLE] FOR ME. BUT THE REST OF IT IS PRETTY ORIGINAL. THE HOUSE IS ONE BIG OPEN ROOM. IT HAD SHOJI SCREENS THAT DIVIDED UP THE LIVING SPACES FROM THE OTHER SPACES. THE MAYO'S FAMILY HAD FOUR CHILDREN AND TWO BOYS TWO GIRLS, AND THEY BUILT THE HOUSE IN 58. OKAY COOL. OK. WOULD ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? DON'T GO TOO FAR DWAYNE. OKAY. WELL, I'M GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CASE 22LC-023 AS A LANDMARK DESIGNATION. DO I HAVE A MOTION. DOUG, MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST FOR DESIGNATION AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK. EXCELLENT. DO I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. SHARON SECOND'S IT. ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OK. THIS IS FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL WHO GETS FINAL APPROVAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. PERFECT. MOVING ON. CASE 22LC-024 31 CEDAR LAWN REQUEST FOR DESIGNATION AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK. ALL RIGHTY. SO, YEAH, ANOTHER VERY INTERESTING LANDMARK, KIND OF UNUSUAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE FOR GALVESTON. ANOTHER REQUEST, OF COURSE, 27 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT. THREE OF THOSE RETURNED. ALL THREE OF THOSE IN FAVOR. COURT RECORDS INDICATE THAT DR. WILLIAM AND FRANCIS FLETCHER HOUSE WAS STARTED IN 1926, COMPLETED IN 1927. AT THE TIME, THE CEDAR LAWN SUBDIVISION WAS RELATIVELY NEW. [00:45:04] I BELIEVE THE FLETCHER HOUSE WAS ONLY THE THIRD ONE TO BE BUILT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OF COURSE, CEDAR LAWN IS KIND OF KNOWN FOR ITS UNUSUAL STREET LAYOUT, ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BY W.L. MOODY, I BELIEVE THE SECOND AND HIS S BROTHER-IN-LAW, CLARK THOMPSON. DR. FLETCHER WAS A WORLD WAR I VETERAN WHO SERVED ON THE USS WISCONSIN AS PART OF THE US NAVY'S DENTAL CORPS. I BELIEVE HE MAINTAINED A PRIVATE DENTISTRY PRACTICE AFTERWARD IN GALVESTON FOR 46 YEARS . MS. FLETCHER WAS ACTIVE IN THE GALVESTON GARDEN CLUB, PILOT CLUB AND TRINITY EPISCOPAL CHURCH. AFTER THE FLETCHER'S OF THE HOUSE WAS OWNED BY NOT THE DR. PEPPER, BUT A DR. PEPPER, DR. NATHAN AND LORI PEPPER IN THE 1950S. AT THIS TIME, THE PEPPERS HAD CLAD THE STRUCTURE IN A BRICK VENEER, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN REMOVED TO RESTORE THE ORIGINAL STUCCO FAÇADE, WHICH YOU SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT. THEY ALSO HAD ADDED A REAR INSIDE AND SIDE ADDITION DESIGNED BY A LOCAL ARCHITECT NAMED HERBERT HUDLER. THE DR. WILLIAM AND FRANCIS FLETCHER HOUSE IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL IN GALVESTON BECAUSE OF ITS SPANISH COLONIAL STYLE, VERY UNUSUAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY. THE GALVESTON DAILY NEWS ARTICLE FROM THE TIME NOTED IS A SPANISH MEDITERRANEAN STYLE THAT COST $7,500 TO BUILD ORIGINALLY, AND ALSO NOTES ITS UNIQUE APPEARANCE AND STYLE IN THE ISLAND. THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. PLANNING COMMISSION WILL AGAIN HEAR THIS REQUEST AT THE JUNE 7TH MEETING. CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION. THEY WILL HEAR THE REQUEST IN THE JUNE 23RD MEETING. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH STANDARD CONDITION ONE. AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS. I'M SORRY, DANIEL. SO HERE WE HAVE THE PHOTO OF THE HOUSE AS IT SITS NOW. OF COURSE, IT IS UNDERGOING RENOVATION AT THE MOMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NOW HERE WE HAVE SOME MORE PHOTOS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OF THE EXTERIOR AND SOME OF THE INTERIOR KIND OF I CALL THEM VISTAS. VERY INTERESTING HOUSE INSIDE AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND HERE WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT'S NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STREETS GO. [LAUGHTER] AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFFS REPORT. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REQUEST FOR STAFF? NO. WELL, WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT. MR. JONES IF HE WANTS TO COME BACK IN STATE HIS NAME, SIGN THE SHEET. TELL US ABOUT THIS LOVELY PROPERTY. SO I THOUGHT I'D JUST GET IT ALL OVER AT ONE TIME. [LAUGHTER] SO IT IS RAPIDLY GETTING TO CLOSE. I HOPE SO. IT'LL STILL HAVE A FEW MORE MONTHS TO GO ON IT THOUGH. THIS IS A REALLY UNUSUAL AND REMARKABLE PRESERVATION STORY. I STARTED THIS BEFORE I KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A PANDEMIC. I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE STARTED IT. SO IT WAS ENCLOSED IN THE LATE 1960S WITH THE ENTIRE BRICK FAÇADE, VERY MODERN AND VERY DIFFERENT. AND I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY, THAT WAS WHAT ATTRACTED ME, ACTUALLY. SO THE OTHER I THOUGHT IT WOULD REALLY STAY AND IT WAS VERY QUICKLY I REALIZED THAT THAT HAD CAUSED A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS FOR THE HOUSE. IT HAD BEEN COVERED UP A ROOFTOP DECK FROM THE 1927 HOUSE, AND SHE HAD THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD ENCLOSED ABOUT A DOZEN WINDOWS AND DOORS THAT WERE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE. SO IT WAS CREATING A CLIMATE THAT REALLY WASN'T VERY GOOD EITHER. SO I KEPT THE 1960 EDITION. I WORKED WITH A VERY IMPORTANT AND REALLY POPULAR ARCHITECT IN HOUSTON, DAVID BOUCEK, WHO'S A LONG TIME FRIEND OF MINE A PRESERVATION ARCHITECT WHO IS MORE OF A PRESERVATIONIST THAN I AM. SO HE PUSHED US TO BE TO DO SOME THINGS, SOME THINGS THAT I MIGHT NOT HAVE DONE. BUT ANYWAY, WE'VE PRETTY MUCH TAKEN IT BACK TO THE 1927 APPEARANCE WHEN IT WAS FINISHED WITH STUCCO, AND WITH SOME TILE ROOFS WHICH ARE NOW OVER THE WINDOWS AND DOORS, KEPT A NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE SIXTIES, INCLUDING THE DOUBLE GARAGE AND SO FORTH. THERE WAS A HOUSE BUILT IN 26, 27 AND THEY IMMEDIATELY ADDED A LITTLE HOUSE TO THE BACK, WHICH WAS FOR HER FATHER, MRS. FLETCHER'S FATHER, WHO LIVED THERE, AND THERE WAS AN ARCADE BETWEEN THEM. SO I KEPT THOSE LEAVING THE HALLWAY, A NEW HALLWAY, TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCE THAT IT WAS THERE BEFORE. SO IT'S BEEN [INAUDIBLE], IT'S BEEN RE-ROOFED, IT'S BEEN REDONE IN A WHOLE NUMBER OF WAYS AND STILL HAS MORE TO GO, BUT IT'S GETTING THERE. IT WAS A PLEASURE TO TOUR IT ON THE HOME TOUR. OH, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. I'M GLAD YOU. THANK YOU. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I MET A GENTLEMAN AND HIS WIFE THAT WERE THERE AND HE GREW UP IN THAT HOUSE. YES, THAT'S ONE OF THE PEPPERS SON THE LAST DAY OF THE TOUR, I THINK IT WAS, THAT HE WAS ON IT. [00:50:03] HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT HOW DIFFERENT IT WAS WHEN HE LIVED THERE. YES, I'M SURE HE WELL, WHAT. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. I'M GLAD Y'ALL GOT TO SEE IT. IT WAS ON THE SECOND WEEKEND OF OUR HOMES TOUR HERE. IT WAS WONDERFUL. I WAS GOING TO SAY IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, BUT I GUESS NOT. HE LEFT US. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS CASE? NO. THEN I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON CASE 22LC-024 MAKING RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR A LANDMARK. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? SARAH. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE 22LC-024 FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR A LANDMARK DESIGNATION. OKAY. SECOND. SHARON SECONDED IT. DISCUSSION? NO. I THINK WE'RE ALL EXCITED TO SEE YET ANOTHER HISTORIC HOME SAVED AND PRESERVED FOR ALL TIME. OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MR. JONES. OKAY, SO THAT CONCLUDES. BUT BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST WEEK IN JULY. RIGHT, AS WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING. IT'S ACTUALLY THE JANUARY, NO NOT JANUARY, JULY 18TH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MONTH OFF. YEAH JULY 18TH, OUR NEXT MEETING IS CANCELED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CASES. THE MEETING AFTER THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE HOLIDAY AND SO IT CANCELED. OKAY. AND THEN SO WE'RE OFF UNTIL THE WONDERFUL. [INAUDIBLE] NOT THAT I DON'T ENJOY BEING WITH Y'ALL BUT. 18TH. JULY 18TH. OKAY. NEXT MEETING IS JULY 18TH. BECAUSE OUR CALENDAR YEAR FOR ATTENDANCE GOES JANUARY TO DECEMBER 31ST, I THINK MIDYEAR IS A GOOD TIME TO REVIEW WHAT THE RULES ARE FOR ATTENDANCE FOR COMMISSIONERS AND ALTERNATES. WHAT IS ALLOWED, WHAT'S NOT IS ALLOWED. ALSO, CAN WE GET AN UPDATE WHERE EACH OF US ARE ON OUR ATTENDANCE STANDING AND THEN ALSO HAVE A Q&A IF ANY OF THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS OR ALTERNATE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO ADD TO THE AGENDA. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD FOR DISCUSSION? I DO WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, COUNCIL ADDRESSED THIS FOR A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS LAST MEETING AND DEFERRED ACTION FOR SIX MONTHS. SO WE NEED EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE CLEAR WHAT THE RULES ARE AND WHERE WE STAND ON THAT, BECAUSE IT WILL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER REALLY GOING. GOOD TIME. BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE FORGET THAT WE WERE SICK THIS DAY OR GONE THAT DAY AND IT'S NOT VERY MANY. I THINK WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 20 MEETINGS PER YEAR OR 21 MEETINGS PER YEAR. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS COMMISSION IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.