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[Call to Order]
GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE THIS MORNING.WELCOME TO, OF COURSE, COUNCIL.
GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE THIS MORNING.
WELCOME TO EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING IN THE COMMUNITY, GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING.
I WOULD LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO ORDER FOR MAY 26; IT IS 9:00 AM.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
>> VERY GOOD. WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT.
[3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (20 Minutes)]
THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. PLEASE, JANELLE.>> ITEM 3A. VERIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND START THIS OFF.
WILLIAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START US ON THIS, SIR?
>> I THINK I'M GOOD. I'M GOING TO SAVE IT FOR SOME OF OUR WORKSHOP AGENDAS [INAUDIBLE].
THE PARKING THING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
THE OTHER ONE, THE CURRENT DEAL IS DUE [OVERLAPPING] BY TOMORROW [NOISE].
I DO BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I HAVE [INAUDIBLE].
>>GOT A QUESTION ABOUT 11 L [NOISE], WHICH IS THE HIGH ROAD PROJECT [NOISE].
>> CAN I GET THAT ATTACHMENT SENT TO ME OR COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE REDUCTIONS IN THAT CONTRACT WERE?
>> [INAUDIBLE], SO IF YOU WANT I CAN GIVE YOU THE LIST.
>> OH, YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. IF YOU DON'T NEED IT.
THOSE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. WE NEED SOME SWITCHES FROM A 12-INCH TO [INAUDIBLE], WHICH HAD A NUMBER OF SAVINGS.
WE DIDN'T REPLACE THE WATER METERS, SO THERE'S SAVINGS ON THAT.
ORIGINALLY THE PROJECT TESTS AND OTHER SECTIONS OF THE STREET INCLUDED ON IT BUT DID NOT GET INCLUDED WITH AN OVERLAYING WITHOUT THAT STRETCH GOING FROM 91ST ALL THE WAY BACK TOWARDS THAT SIDE.
WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.
[OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE SOME SAVINGS THERE [INAUDIBLE] ARE SOME SMALL ARROWS ON QUANTITIES AND A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THAT SHE COULD HAVE THERE IN THE ANALYSIS.
>> I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT MY ISSUES WITH THE PAVING THAT WAS DONE OUT THERE.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE OR EVEN AT CURRENTLY OUT THERE OR [INAUDIBLE] TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE OR FIX THAT ISSUE?
>>UNFORTUNATELY, [INAUDIBLE] ITSELF WASN'T THE ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
WE'RE GOING TO GET WHATEVER SHE WAS BACK AT, PUSHES THE OVERLAY.
WHAT WE CAN DO ON FUTURE PROJECTS TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE UNDULATION IN THAT SURFACE AS YOU GO INTO KIND OF A LEVELING COURSE IN THERE.
ACTUALLY SMOOTH THAT OUT BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT FINAL SERVICE ON THERE.
WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT ON SOME OTHER PROJECTS.
TO KIND OF FIX WHAT WE GOT RIGHT NOW WHILE TYPING, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO IN WITH ANOTHER.
>>ALL RIGHT. THANKS. I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
[INAUDIBLE] I MEAN THE MOTORIZED VEHICLES.
I DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT NOW.
23RD STREET [OVERLAPPING] LONDON.
>>THE 23RD STREET RECONSTRUCTION, THAT BID HAS BEEN AWARDED? IS IT IN THE COUNTY?
>> HAS NOT. THEY'VE RECEIVED THE BIDS ON IT AND THEY'RE PLANNING TO TAKE ITS COMMISSIONER'S COURT, IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THAT TODAY.
>> WHAT WILL WE NEED TO PROVE THIS FIRST BEFORE IT GOES TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
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THE COUNTY IS PROVIDING A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT?>>THAT'S FULL RECONSTRUCTION ON THAT STREET.
WILL THAT BE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT?
>>GOES COMMISSIONER COORDINATE JUNE, IF THEY AWARD IT AT THAT TIME, WHEN WILL THAT PROJECT LIKELY TO START?
>>THEY AWARD IN JUNE THEY EXECUTE THE CONTRACT IN JULY AND THEY'RE THINKING A NOTICE TO PROCEED ABOUT AUGUST 1ST, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE SOME MIDDLES GOING ON.
SOME MOBILIZATION WILL PROBABLY HAVE, SAY, AFTER LABOR DAY WEEKEND AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M IMAGINING JUST DEPENDING ON WHEN THEY GET THE MATERIALS AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
>>HOW ARE THOSE PROJECTS MANAGED SINCE THEY ARE THE [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT IN THIS 23RD STREET PROJECT, IS PARTIALLY COUNTY.
HOW DO YOU ALL MANAGE THOSE PROJECTS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY?
>>THE COUNTY'S PRIMARY LEAD SINCE THEY ARE DIRECTLY CONTRACTING WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND WE HANDLE ALL THE COMPLAINTS REALLY.
[LAUGHTER] THAT WAS A CONDITION IN THE [INAUDIBLE].ALL RIGHT.
.>> IT'S A BIT MORE BIGGER EQUIPPED TO HANDLE COMPLAINTS FROM BUSINESSES AND ALEXA, I SAID WE GOT PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE IN THAT.
>>THEY MANAGE THE CONTRACT OR THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WERE ACTUALLY ISSUING THE CONTRACT?
>>YES. BUT WE MANAGE IT TOGETHER AS A TEAM.
>> WE APPROVE SOME METALS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IF WE HAVE OBJECTIONS [OVERLAPPING]
>> OF COURSE, WE HAVE STAFF OUT THERE DOING INSPECTIONS AND [INAUDIBLE]
>>I THINK THAT'S MAKING SURE OUR STANDARDS ARE MET AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE TAKE TIME. ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON IT NEVER HURT.
>>DO YOU KNOW THEIR RATE OF CONTRACT?
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AUGUST 1ST, NOTICE TO PROCEED AND IT'D BE ABOUT JUNE 27TH,2023, THEN WRAP IT UP, AND SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED AROUND THAT TIME AT LEAST.
>> THIS TIMELINE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ITS 23RD STREET.
>>THIS IS 23RD FROM [INAUDIBLE].
>> BUT WHAT IS ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEARNESS.
I MEAN, THEY WERE BOTH COVERED IN THE BOND ISSUE.
>>THEY WERE ALL GOT TOGETHER UNDER ONE INNER LOCAL.
I'M AN AVENUE S HAS ALREADY BEEN LED RUNNING AND THEY'RE PROCEEDING WITH THAT ONE.
THE COMPLETION DATE ON THAT ONE IS JULY 4TH OF NEXT YEAR.
>> BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T STARTED DIGGING OUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE DOING ALL THIS, THAT'S RIGHT NOW.
>>WELL, WE'RE CONTRIBUTING $12 MILLION OR WHATEVER IT IS? THAT'S JUST THE 23RD STREET FORTUNATELY?
>>WE ONLY CONTRIBUTE MAYBE 3.5 TOWARDS THE AVENUE.
>>THEY CONTRACTED FOR 8.1 IN TOTAL.
THEY DID 8.1 [NOISE] TOTAL IN 2019, SAID THIS IS OUR LIMIT THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS PROJECT.
COST OVERRUN, INFLATION NEED EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEY PUT 7.1 TOWARDS AVENUE S. IT LEAVES ABOUT 1 MILLION LEFT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS HIGH SCHOOL.
>> I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT DIVISION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRANDON ON THIS ISSUE? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. BRANDON TO JOHN PAUL.
>> [INAUDIBLE] COMPLETES MY QUESTIONS.
>> HERE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE 11K, THE SOUTH SHORE PUMP STATION.
THIS IS ANOTHER 2.2 MILLION TO FINISH THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS LIKE CONTINUE TO THROW ME IN ON THE STATUS OF THIS WHOLE THING?
>> CAN I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AGAIN PLEASE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL. IT LOOKS LIKE WE STARTED WITH PART OF THIS AND THEN DRAINAGE THING BACK WITH DAN AND BOB, AND NOW WE'RE GOING FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE CHOOSING ANOTHER COMPANY.
IN JUST THE DESIGN WE'RE OVER FOUR MILLION.
>> THE 11, THIS ITEM ITSELF IS JUST FOR THE FULL DESIGN FOR THE SOUTH SHORE PUMP STATION PROJECT.
DAN AND BOB HASN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT AT ALL.
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THIS IS THE GLO FUNDED PROJECT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SOUTH SHORE PUMP STATION WHICH IS AT THE CORNER OF ENGLISH BAYOU IN SOUTH SHORE DRIVE.THIS HAS TO GO AND PROCURE DESIGN, GET THE H&E STUDY DONE TO THE MODELING OF THE ACTUAL PUMP STATION ITSELF, COMPLETE DESIGN AND THEN BE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AT THIS POINT.
>> IS THIS THE ENGINEER THAT'S GOING TO CARRY US ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE END OF THE PROJECT?
>> THIS IS THE PRICE THAT'S GOING TO DO THAT?
>> THIS PIECE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST GOING FOR THE DESIGN.
THERE ARE SOME INITIAL PIECES IN THERE THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING/AUTHORIZING AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE IT'S TOO EARLY TO GO AHEAD AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING TO BE, WHAT EXPENSES ARE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE [NOISE] ESTIMATES OF PLACEHOLDERS IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE AT THIS NEXT STAGE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE BEFORE WE PRE-NEGOTIATED ALL THAT UP FRONT.
BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU GUYS OFFER US SOMETHING WHEN [INAUDIBLE] IS OVER WORK.
>> AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, COUNCIL, THIS WAS FUNDED BY THE GLO WITH CDBG FUNDS.
>> BUT NOW I WANT TO CAUTION COUNCIL, THAT'S A REIMBURSABLE.
THIS IS WHY WE CARRY THE CASH BALANCES HERE AT THE CITY THAT WE DO BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FRONT THE MONEY ON THIS.
>> GOOD ENOUGH. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT, MARIE?
>> NO. THE NEXT THING WOULD BE 11N AND I GUESS MY QUESTION I UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLE STARS ARE BECAUSE IT'S THE BADGER [INAUDIBLE].
BUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BE SWITCHING INTO THE NEW SYSTEM?
>> THE BADGER METER SYSTEM THAT HAS ALREADY STARTED, THE FIRST INSTALLATION OF METERS BEGINNING JUNE, LATE JUNE, AND THEN IT WILL PAUSE FOR A MINUTE WHILE WE GO THROUGH THE METER TO CASH PROCESS.
THEN AFTER THAT ONCE ALL THE BUGS ARE WORKED OUT AND FINE-TUNING, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BLOW AND GO.
THE BADGER ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDAS IS NOT RELATED TO OTHER TRENCH BOXES FOR SAFETY.
>> BUT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE THROUGH BADGER.
>> NO. WE HAVE SOLE SOURCE ON HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAD THE SIZES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT MATCH OUR SOIL TYPE.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF BOXES OUT THERE.
WE GOT MEDIUM BOXES, LARGE BOXES.
THESE ARE HARD TO ASSEMBLE, REQUIRE A LOT OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT, BUT OUR GUYS AREN'T USING TRENCH SAFETY ON SMALLER HOLES BECAUSE WE HAVE BIG MATERIAL.
WHAT THEY DO IS THEY EXPAND THE SIZE OF THE HOLE, WHICH INCREASES THE STREET CUT, THE COST TO REPAIR THE STREET AND THEY DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING SMALLER AND OUR SAND IS WET AND IT'LL JUST KEEP FLUFFING OFF.
WE FOUND THESE BOXES THAT ARE SMALL, THAT CAN BE HANDLED BY TWO PEOPLE AND THEY'RE LIGHTWEIGHT AND THEY'RE RATED FOR C SOIL TYPE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE.
>> IT WILL ALSO EXPEDITE OUR REPAIRS.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO OVER-DIG AND OVER EXCAVATE.
THEN WE HAVE CAVE ENDS AND COLLAPSES AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY RUNNING PUMPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE HAVE ONE OF THESE BIG BREAKS, THEY SHORE UP, SO HELP US MOVE A LOT FASTER AND GETTING YOUR CURRENTS DONE.
>> THANK YOU, ROBERT. THANK YOU.
>> THEN I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR DAVID SMITH ON THE TRUCKS THAT WENT UP ANOTHER 22, 000.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE, UNTIL THEY FULFILL THE ORDER EVERY MONTH ARE GOING TO SAY, OH, BUT NOW THEY'RE GOING BE ANOTHER.
>> YES, MA'AM. THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE COMING, UNFORTUNATELY.
OUR INSIDE CONTACTS WITH MANUFACTURERS, IS JUST NOT THIS ONE, ARE BASICALLY SAYING THAT THEY HAVE MORE WATERS THAN WHAT THEY CAN PRODUCE.
QUITE HONESTLY, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO CANCEL THE WATER.
BUT IN REALITY, IF YOU DO THAT, YOU GOT TO REBUILD IT.
THE PRICE IS GOING TO COMING HIGH, AND THEN YOU GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE.
WE HAD REACHED DISCUSSIONS WITH MANUFACTURING STAFF AND DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO GET THIS CHANGE ORDER APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
>> BUT WE'RE JUST SEEING THIS ECONOMY IS SO FRIGHTENING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSTANTLY PAYING MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
>> THANK YOU, DAVID. WE STILL DON'T REALLY HAVE A TRUE DELIVERY DATE TO THESE TRUCKS, DO WE DAVID? DAVID?
>> YOU STILL DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD DELIVERY DATE ON THIS TRUCKS?
>> THE FIRST-ORDER OF GARBAGE TRUCKS THAT WE'VE ORDERED, I THINK IN OCTOBER, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT THE CHANGE ORDER IS AFFECTING AND WE KEEP GETTING PUSHED BACK FROM MARCH TO SEPTEMBER,
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BUT THE MANUFACTURER CALLED US THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY AND SAID ONE CHASSIS DID SHOW UP.MY QUESTION TO HIM IS, HOW ABOUT THE OTHER TWO? UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT'S A GOOD SIGN THAT ONE JUST POPPED UP AND WE'RE HOPING THE OTHER TWO WOULD POP UP. [OVERLAPPING]
>> PICKUP TRUCKS, WE ORDERED 21S, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET 23S.
>> ON SANITATION TRUCKS, DAVID, WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA FOR THE RENTAL OF TRUCKS, IS THAT JUST TO GET HIS SPINE UNTIL THESE COME IN OR [OVERLAPPING]
THE POINT THAT WE'RE PAYING THIS RENTAL FEE FOR THESE, WE CAN OBTAIN 50 PERCENT CREDIT BY TAKING HALF THAT MONEY AND MAKING THE PURCHASE ON THE TWO TRUCKS WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE IN SERVICE NOW.
>> WE'LL BE PURCHASING THOSE, BUT WE HAVE TO RENT THEM FOR 12 MONTH PERIOD BEFORE WE CAN PULL THE TRIGGER, BUT WE WANTED TO COME TO COUNCIL AND GET IT APPROVED SO WHEN IT HAPPENS IT HAPPENS.
>> WHAT WERE THE CONDITIONS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED RANDOM, THAT THEY HAVE MANY HOURS ON THEM OR THEY'RE NEW?
>> WE RESEARCHED THE CHASSIS AND ALSO THE PACKER.
THIS IS A PACKER THAT WE'RE NOT USED TO HAVING.
IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING ALL RIGHT AND TRUTH ONE IS ACTUALLY THE DEALER RIGHT NOW GETTING SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE, BUT THEY WERE BRAND NEW, SIR, WHEN WE BROUGHT THEM.
>> THEY'RE MASSIVE TRUCK, AT LEAST ONE OF THEM IS A MASSIVE TRUCK.
IT'S WAY BIGGER THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO USING, AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS ON THE WEST END WHEN WE HAVE LONGER ROUTES, KEEPS US FROM HAVING TO RUN BACK AND FORTH.
IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, DAVID.
>> JUST ONE OTHER NOTE TO MAKE.
I THINK WHEN WE GET TO CONSIGN ITEMS WE SHOULD PULL OUT 11D.
>> I HAVE THAT DOWN. PULL IT OUT AND NOT ONLY THAT, THIS IS [INAUDIBLE] I'M GOING TO CALL HER TO TALK WITH THIS.
>> THEN I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS ON 10D.
>> THAT'S EASIER, WE'LL GET CLEAR ON THAT AT THE END OF THE REGULAR MEETING.
>> NOW FOR MY NEXT 20 QUESTION [LAUGHTER].
>> [OVERLAPPING] SHERRY. VERY GOOD.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY QUESTIONS, SO THAT LEAVES ME WITH A CLEAR MIND OFF UNFORTUNATELY.
AS WE KNOW, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN ITEM 3B ON THE WORKSHOP,
[3.B. Discussion Of Changes To The License To Use Ordinance As It Relates To Motorized Vehicles (T. Tietjens - 20 Min)]
WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE LTU.IT INVOLVES NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND GOLF CARTS, AND SO FORTH.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON AA, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT INVOLVES THE GOLF CARTS.
>> CATHERINE. GOOD MORNING, CATHERINE.
I KNOW WE HAVE A SETBACK, CATHERINE.
THE ORDINANCES IN A DAY MAKE US 200 FEET OR SOMETHING.
THE SETBACK FOR GOLF CART SERVICE FACILITIES.
DOES THAT APPLY TO STORAGE ALSO?
>> GOLF CART SERVICE, THERE'S A MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS 200 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL.
>> THAT WOULD BE FOR SERVICE ONLY.
>> STORAGE, THERE'S NOT A SETBACK LIKE OKAY.
>> I HAVE A POINTED OUT QUESTION IN MY MIND ON THAT.
LET'S SAY IT'S A GOLF CART PLAYS ON BROADWAY THAT BACKS UP TOWARD ONE.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT ON YOUR FRONT YARD OR YOUR FRONT RIGHT-OF-WAY, SO THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE IT IN THE BACK OF YOUR SHOP AS WELL BECAUSE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU CAN'T DO GOLF CART SERVICE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
IT'S LIKELY SINCE THE LOTS OF BROADWAY OR ABOUT 120 FEET WIDE.
THEN IT'S NOT LIKELY YOU'D BE ABLE TO DO IT ON BROADWAY.
>> THEY MIGHT HAVE TO SERVICE INSIDE AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANYWHERE WHERE THEY CAN DISPLAY THEIR CARTS.
>> IF YOU'RE DOING JUST SERVICE, IT WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE INSIDE.
>> NO, IF THEY'RE DOING SERVICE IN RENTAL.
>> IF THEY'RE DOING RENTAL, THEN THAT'S THE OTHER LAND USE, WHICH IS THE GOLF CART SALES AND RENTAL.
LET'S SEE IF THAT HAS THE SAME RESTRICTION.
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I DON'T BELIEVE IT DOES.IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.
>> CAN YOU GIVE ME A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENCE NECESSITY FOR 8A,10A,10B, THE THREE OF THEM, PLEASE.
>> SURE, 8A IS CHANGES TO THE LANDS DEVELOPMENT REGULATION.
IT'S TO CLARIFY THESE DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYS WE CAN CLASSIFY IN GOLF CARTS WHICH IS CONFUSING FOR THE PUBLIC AND ALSO FOR STAFF SO WE WERE HOPING TO SIMPLIFY THAT.
IF I CAN JUST USE BRIAN'S AGENDA.
THAT'S 8A AND THEN 10A IS CHANGED TO CITY CODE.
IT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF CODES THAT WE'RE CHANGING SO IT HAS TO BE A SEPARATE CASE AND THAT'S FOR ALLOWING GOLF CART TO THE RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN LTU.
THEN 10B IS A SEPARATE ISSUE FOR PARKING REGULAR PASSENGER, MOTOR VEHICLES, AND TMDS.
>> WE'RE CHANGING LANGUAGE IN THAT SECTION OF THE CODE.
[OVERLAPPING] ALL THREE OF THESE ARE NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THE ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
>> YES. BUT KEEP IN MIND THIS IS WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN HUNG UP BEFORE, IS THAT WE WOULD CHANGE ONE AND THEN WE DIDN'T CHANGE [OVERLAPPING] THE OTHER TWO, AND THEN WE GET IN CONFLICT.
THAT'S WHY CATHERINE SPENT AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS GOING THROUGH THIS AND VERY COMPLETE TO MAKE SURE IN FLESH WE READ THEM.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M VERY FINE.
>> THIS IS PART OF OUR COMMITMENT THAT WE MADE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO START GOING THROUGH THESE THINGS ONE BY ONE, TO CORRECT ISSUES AND CONFLICT THAT CAUSED ISSUES IN THE PAST AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES THAT WE FOUND.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIX IT IN ALL OF THEM.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WENT OUT I MEASURED MINE, I MEASURED NEIGHBORS AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
GOLF CART DOESN'T CONSUME ANYMORE OF A FOOTPRINT THAN CERTAIN THINGS.
>> WE HAVE MARIE AND THEN WILLIAM.
>> THEN JOHN. [LAUGHTER] JOHN, DID I SKIP YOU?
>> I KNOW YOU'VE HAD THREE PIECES OF SUGAR, SO YOUR [LAUGHTER].
IS THAT 200 FEET FROM A RESIDENT FOR USE OR FROM A RESIDENTIAL ZONE?
>> EITHER ONE. IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL USE, YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN 200 FEET, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT SENT BACK.
THEN 3B ON OUR WORKSHOP HERE, I GUESS THAT WE WOULDN'T REALLY BE DISCUSSING 10B IN THAT, WOULD WE?
>> THE LTU. I THINK IT'S COVERED BY 3B.
BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING, I DON'T THINK SO.
>> I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING TOO [OVERLAPPING]
>> [OVERLAPPING] GOOD AHEAD. [BACKGROUND]
>> OH, NO, I'M SORRY. NOT 10B.
10B HAS TO DO WITH PRIVATE PARKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHIN TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> WHILE WE'RE ON 10B, I HAVE A QUESTION.
>> GO AHEAD, MARIE, THEN WE'LL HAVE WILLIAMS, THEN I'LL ASK MY QUESTION.
>> ON THAT 10B ONE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT NOT BLOCKING THEM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
LET'S SAY IT TALKS ABOUT A TRUCK.
YOU'RE AT YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE UNLOADING YOUR TRUCK [NOISE] AND THEN YOU SEE THIS A LOT ON LIKE 35TH, 37TH, THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD DO IT IS YOU'RE BLOCKING A RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THERE ISN'T A PAVEMENT, IT'S ONLY GRASS.
AS LONG AS YOU MOVED THAT TRUCK [NOISE] 38 HOURS, YOU WILL NOT HAVE AN ISSUE.
>> WELL, I THINK WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO HERE AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S THE CURB MONOPOLIZATION ISSUE.
>> THAT WOULD BE THAT SECTION. WE WEREN'T PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THAT SECTION, CURB MONOPOLIZATION.
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>> BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN LEAVE A VEHICLE PARKED FOR 48 HOURS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
IN THAT TERM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STREET.
YOU CAN LEAVE IT THERE FOR 48 HOURS AND IT HAS TO MOVE.
THAT'S I BELIEVE A STATE RULE FOR THE MONOPOLIZATION OF CURBS.
>> WE HAVE SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN THE INCOMING MEETINGS ABOUT BOATS AND TRAILERS, AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S WHAT WE DO HERE.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DEALS AND I'M GETTING OFF SUBJECT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND WHEN WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU THAT WE HAVE VERY GOOD RULES ABOUT IT IN OUR 1, 2, AND 3, I THINK.
BUT NOT AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOT.
[LAUGHTER] BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FOLLOW IT ALL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE'S QUITE A FEW THINGS WE'RE GOING DOWN TO LOOK AT THAT WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE FORWARD THINKING AS [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL, FORWARD THINKING A LITTLE BIT MORE PLAIN SPOKEN TO, SO IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
THAT HAS BEEN MY WHOLE GOAL WITH THIS AND THAT WAS MY INSURANCE I GAVE YOU GUYS IS THAT I WAS GOING TO DO SO.
>> GOING BACK TO THE GOLF CART ONE.
YOU RUN A GOLF CART, YOU GO AND YOU PARK ON THAT SEAWALL, AND YOU PAY FOR YOUR PARKING; IS THAT ALLOWED?
>> THE BIGGEST ACCOMPLISHMENT HERE, IS THAT IF YOU'RE RENTING A GOLF CART OR MAYBE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, IS THAT YOU CAN DISPLAY JUST LIKE YOU CAN A [INAUDIBLE].
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE.
>> THIS WILL TAKE AWAY ALL WRITING INVOLVED, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TICKETS AND WHATNOTS [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH. THIS IS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS MASSIVE CONFLICT IN OUR CODE AND NOW WE'RE TAKING THAT OUT.
>> I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT, BUT THAT'S COMING UP IN OUR NEXT ITEM. YES, JOHN.
>> IN OUR WORKSHOP, THAT'S WHERE [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] 3 B?
>> OKAY. I HAVE A PARTING QUESTION.
IT DIDN'T HAVE QUESTION ON THAT.
CURRENTLY, IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A MOTOR HOME OR A TRAILER OR CAMPER OR BOAT PARKED IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT PARKED ON THE SIDE OR REAR LOT AND IT'S GOT TO BE SCREENED.
>> OKAY. THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK AROUND THAT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO. BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS WE HAVE ISSUES RIGHT NOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT BOATS BEING LEFT AND OTHER TRAILERS BEING LEFT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.
>> IN THE RIGHT WAY. [OVERLAPPING].
>> IN THE STREET. IF IT'S IN AN R123, WE GOT IT.
BUT THIS IS OCCURRING NOW IN THESE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD SETTINGS AND IN OTHER ZONING SETTINGS, AND WE HAVE NO ENFORCEMENT ABILITY.
WE WERE GETTING COMPLAINTS ON THAT.
I KNOW CRAIG WAS INVOLVED IN ONE [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT BEHIND THE ACADEMY.
A BOAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER, I CAN'T TELL IT.
>> NOW THAT'S NOT IN THIS ONE.
>> YEAH. THAT'S FUTURE DISCUSSION.
>> BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS [BACKGROUND] [INAUDIBLE] CODE.
IT JUST WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
WE DID IT OVER HERE, BUT WE DIDN'T DO IT OVER HERE.
>> YOU CAN SAY YOU COULDN'T EVEN DECLARE TO ABANDON?
>> IS BUTCH IN HERE? WE'VE RUN INTO THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES.
I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OFF THE AGENDA ITEM.
WE'VE RUN INTO THIS WITH THESE BOATS AND THINGS.
>> RIGHT. OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE ADDRESSES MOTOR VEHICLES.
>> A TRAILER IS NOT A MOTOR VEHICLE.
WE WERE UNABLE TO ADDRESS THE TRAILERS, WHETHER IT'S A TRAVEL TRAILER, A MOTOR HOME, A BOAT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WAY OF ADDRESSING THOSE THAT WERE LEFT IN THE CITY RUNWAY FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.
COUNCIL DID APPROVE LAST YEAR FOR R0,1 AND 2, SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS, AND THAT HELPED.
HOWEVER, THERE'S A LOT OF THEM OUT THERE THAT AREN'T IN ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE KEEP GETTING COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH, IS TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP AND GIVE US MORE TOOLS OR A TOOL BELT TO ADDRESS THINGS CITY-WIDE.
>> BUTCH TO INTERRUPT YOU, GO BACK TO MY PARKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY QUESTION.
[INAUDIBLE] TO PARKING MOTOR VEHICLE.
THIS SAYS, IT SHALL BE AN OFFENSE FOR A PERSON TO PARK A MOTOR VEHICLE, CAMPER TRAILER, MOTOR HOME, BOAT,
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ON PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DESCRIBED UNLESS THE VEHICLE IS PARKED ON A MAINTAINED SIDE OR REAR YARD SCREEN FROM PUBLIC VIEW.DOES THAT MEAN I CAN'T PARK A MOTOR VEHICLE IN MY DRIVEWAY?
[LAUGHTER] IT'S A DOUBLE-WAY [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I READ THAT AS I CAN'T PARK ON MY DRIVEWAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU CAN'T PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY UNLESS IT'S SCREENED.
NOW YOU CAN PARK IT ON YOUR SIDE YARD OR YOUR BACK YARD.
>> YOU CAN'T PUT A CAR ON YOUR DRIVEWAY?
>> WE ARE NOT CHANGING THIS. THIS IS WHAT'S IN THERE RIGHT [OVERLAPPING] NOW.
>> NOW, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DON'T LOOK TO ENFORCE.
IT'S THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO DENY THAT.
BUT AS LONG AS IT'S NOT STICKING OVER INTO THE CITY RIGHT AWAY AND WE DON'T GET COMPLAINTS ON IT, WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THAT.
IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT ON IT THEN WE ARE TO APPROACH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, SAY, YOUR PARK [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE].
>> IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO GET CLEARED UP, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. [BACKGROUND]
>> WHAT THIS ONE IS FOR, IS PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THEIR YARD AND IT IS NOT SCREENED AND IT'S ON GRASS.
IT HAS TO BE ON A ROOF SURFACE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WHERE IT'S SCREENED FROM VIEW, WHETHER IT'S A FENCE OR SHRUBS OR WHATEVER THEY USE. WE GET A LOT OF THOSE.
>> I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME.
>>WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THIS, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS AS YOU TRY TO TRY TO CLARIFY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> FOR THE SAKE OF CLARIFICATION, JOHN, RESTATE WHAT YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
>> THE WAY I READ THIS, AND IT'S SECTION 34 DASH 119, PARKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT SAYS IT SHALL BE OFFENSE FOR A PERSON TO PARK A MOTOR VEHICLE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY UNLESS THE VEHICLE IS PARKED ON A MAINTAINED SIDE OR REAR YARD SCREENED FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW.
>> YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE IN THE FRONT YARD, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> I KNOW WE'RE NOT GIVING TICKETS TO PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY THAT ARE OUT [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING THOSE UNLESS THERE'S A COMPLAINT.
>> BUT IT IS EASILY FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE A COMPLAINT, USUALLY NOT ON A CAR THAT'S PARKED OUT THERE, BUT IF THEY HAVE A TRAILER OR MOTOR HOME OUT THERE, OR EVEN A BOAT IN THEIR DRIVEWAY AND IT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY.
YOU COULD GO OUT THERE AND SIDE THEM FOR THAT.
>> CORRECT. THERE IS A VIOLATION IN [INAUDIBLE] CURRENTLY TODAY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIX THAT.
>> IS THERE COMING BACK, BRIAN, TO ADDRESS THAT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ON THAT? WHAT IF IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY HAVE DEEP RESTRICTIONS? LET'S SAY YOU CAN HAVE A BOAT OR A TRAILER AS LONG AS IT'S FULLY UNDER YOUR HOUSE.
>> UNDER YOUR HOUSE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SHELTERED. [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT WOULD IT BE FULLY SCREENED? THAT'S FINE.
>> WE'VE HAD WILLIAM WAITING FOR [INAUDIBLE], VERY PATIENT TODAY [LAUGHTER].
EXCUSE ME. DO WE NEED A BUTCH HERE ANYMORE?
>> HANG ON BUTCH, FOR JUST A SECOND.
>> I JUST HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION.
>> THE SAME CONCERN HAS BEEN FROM RESIDENTS WHO OWN THEIR PROPERTY, BUT THEY HAVE GRASS AND THEY PARK THEIR VEHICLE NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE ON THE GRASS.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING THAT BECAUSE I'VE HAD SEVERAL RESIDENTS WHO'VE RECEIVED TICKETS BECAUSE IT WAS PARKED ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT ON THE GRASS.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD CHANGE THAT THOUGH BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE PARKED ON AN IMPROVED SURFACE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE THE SURFACE, DOES IT HAVE TO BE COVERED?
>> UNLESS IT'S AN RV OR A MOTOR HOME.
>> OKAY. BUT JUST THE SURFACE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU HAVE A THIRD CAR AND YOU NEED SOME PLACE TO PARK IT, YOU HAVE ROOM BY YOUR DRIVEWAY.
IF YOU WERE TO IMPROVE THE SURFACE, WHETHER IT'D BE CRUSHED CONCRETE, ASPHALT CONCRETE, SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THAT, SO YOU'RE NOT SITTING ON THE DIRT AND THE GRASS AND IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY, THEN YOU CAN PARK YOUR CAR THERE.
>> THIS WOULD BE AN INTERESTING ONE ON HOW THIS COULD BE USED AGAINST OUT OF CONTROL RENTAL PROPERTIES WHERE THEY'RE PARKING CARS ALL OVER GRASS.
>> WE'LL STEP PRETTY STRONGLY NOW IF WE GET CALLS.
WILLIAM HAS BEEN PATIENT AWAY.
>> CATHERINE, PRETENDING IF LET'S SAY I LIVE ON 35TH AND I HAVE AN EMPTY LOT NEXT TO MY HOUSE AND I'VE BEEN PARKING MY CARS THERE.
I CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE WITH THIS ORDINANCE?
>> YOU CAN'T DO IT NOW. THIS ORDINANCE IS ONLY FOR THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH ARE BEACHSIDE VILLAGE AT THE BEACHTOWN.
>> IT'S FOR BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.
[INAUDIBLE] DON'T WANT TO DO IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU BETTER CALL [INAUDIBLE] REMOVE THAT CAR.
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[LAUGHTER].>> THAT'S WHY I USE 35TH THERE.
>> REALLY, THE CRUX BEHIND THIS IS THAT ESPECIALLY THESE TNDS OUT THERE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
IF SOMEBODY HAS AN ADJACENT LOT AND THEY WANT TO IMPROVE THE SURFACE TO PUT TWO CARS ON IT, RIGHT NOW IF IT'S NOT PLANTED IT'S ONE LOT, WE DON'T ALLOW THAT. [BACKGROUND]
>> YEAH. I GUESS IT'S BECAUSE I DO HAVE RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT, THEY WILL USE OUR EMPTY LOT BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE, AND THEN ON A RAINY DAY [INAUDIBLE] FLOODED OR WHATNOT.
[OVERLAPPING] IF IT'S FLOODING, AS LONG AS YOU GET YOUR CAR HIGH ON THE DRIVEWAY YOU DON'T GET IT FLOODED, THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING.
ONCE IT STOPS RAINING, YOU NEED TO PUT IT BACK WHERE IT BELONGS.
>> BUT WE ALSO HAVE INSTANCES ALL OVER TOWN WHERE THERE HAPPENS TO BE A VACANT LOT NEXT TO A HOUSE.
A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW IT AND THEY PARK THEIR CARS ON IT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU DON'T EVEN LIVE ON THE ISLAND.
>> I WILL SAY OPEN THE DOOR FOR ABANDONED VEHICLES OR WHATNOT.
>> YEAH. EXACTLY. WE HAVE ISSUES LIKE THIS ALL OVER TOO WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE VACANT LOTS NEAR THE BEACH AND THEY'LL EITHER ALLOW CARS TO PARK ON IT, CHARGED CARS TO PARK ON IT.
WE HAVE PROCEDURES FOR THAT AS WELL.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON 10 B. BUTCH, I THINK WE'RE FINISHED. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.
CATHERINE, ON 10 B, IT MENTIONS THAT NO MOTOR VEHICLE, CAMPER, TRAILER, OR MOTOR HOME OR BOAT MAY BE PARKED ON A LOT OR DRIVEWAY ON WHICH THERE'S A STANDING STRUCTURE.
IT GOES ON TO DEFINE THE STANDING STRUCTURE.
TO ME, THAT MEANS A DOG HOUSE.
IT SAYS, THE PURPOSES THIS SECTION IS STANDING STRUCTURE SHALL MEAN A STRUCTURE WITH EXTERIOR WALLS AND A ROOF, BUILT, ERECTED OR FRAMED THE MATERIALS TO SHELTER PERSONS, ANIMALS OR PROPERTY.
SOMEONE COULD PUT A DOGHOUSE THEN AND MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
>> THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION OF THE CODE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A MAIN STRUCTURE.
IF YOU CAME TO THE BUILDING DIVISION AND WANT TO GET A PERMIT FOR THAT, THEN WE WOULDN'T ALLOW IT BECAUSE THERE IS A DOMAIN STRUCTURE THERE.
>> EVEN THOUGH IT IS WRITTEN GLUTES ANIMALS, IN REALITY WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET YOUR PERMIT FOR THAT.
>> OKAY. BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH I GOT A CALL FROM A RESIDENT ASKING THAT QUESTION, IT WAS INTERESTING.
>> SOMEBODY THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SPENT THE NIGHT AT THE DOG HOUSE.
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OH CATHERINE LET'S SEE, NO I THINK THAT'S IT.
GOOD. I HAD A QUESTION ALSO ON, CATHERINE THANK YOU FOR WAITING INTO THE GOLF CART SITUATION.
I APPRECIATE, THANK YOU CATHERINE.
THIS IS OUR CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD ADDING TO THAT THE CITY MARSHALS.
>> I NOTICED IF IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US AT OUR LAST MEETING.
>> I DID NOT AUTHORIZE ANY CHANGES, WHAT CHANGES ARE YOU REFERRING TO?
IT'S THE CHANGE WHICH I THINK IS GOOD THE WAY IT IS NOW, IN THE ONE PRESENTED TO US THERE WAS THAT SOMETHING RUDE BEHAVIOR WOULD NOT BE AN OFFENSE.
THAT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS.
>> OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I SAW.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT LEAVES IT AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER BUT, AND I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED IT, I MEAN, I MAY HAVE NOT READ IT PROPERLY.
>> YES APPARENTLY, THAT WAS REMOVED.
>> WHICH I THINK IS GOOD, I MEAN, I'M NOT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THINK IT SHOULD BE UNDONE.
>> WELL, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT THEN BECAUSE THE WAY IT WHAT DID READ, DON, DO YOU HAVE THE VERBIAGE ON HOW IT DID READ?
>> NO. I JUST PUT IN SOMETHING FOR THE SESSION LAST MONTH TO EMPHASIZE THAT POLICEMAN TOLD YOU TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU GOT YOU FEELING SO THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD
>> OKAY. THAT WAS IN THE ONE PRESENTED TO US LAST TIME?
NOW, COUNCIL, DO WE WANT TO HAVE THAT BACK IN? WE CAN MAKE THAT A MOTION,
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WE CAN AMEND THAT WHEN WE COME TO THE->> I MEAN WHO TOOK IT OUT, IF YOU DIDN'T TAKE IT OUT?
>> NOW, ITEMS THAT GO TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD IS SENT OUT REGARDING THE MARSHALL AND C1 AND IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE HARSH LANGUAGE, THAT MAY BE WHY IT WAS TAKEN OUT.
OFCOURSE LANGUAGE THINGS PUT IN FOR EMPHASIS BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE IT PUT BACK IN BECAUSE UNDER THE CURRENT DEFINITION GETTING YOUR FEELINGS HURT WOULDN'T PASS MUCH TO ANYWAY.
>> YEAH. I'M FINE WITH THE WAY IT IS, IT JUST CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.
DAVID, YOU HAD A QUESTION ON THAT.
>> WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE WE LOOKED AT LAST MONTH.
THE VERSION OF THIS AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT IN THE ONE WE'VE REVIEWED LAST MONTH.
>> DON MENTIONED IT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I RECALL IT COMING UP AND THAT WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THAT WOULD BE A CITY MANAGER DISCRETION OR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD ROLLOVER CRMB AND I JUST PULLED UP.
>> BECAUSE I REMEMBER ASKING OR DON MENTIONING THAT.
>> I REMEMBER THE TOPIC BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED, THIS IS UNDER PROVISION 7 SECTION 2220.
>> THAT'S FROM OUR LAST AGENDA.
>> YEAH. ALLEGATIONS OF EXCESSIVE FORCE OFFICIAL PER SAY, COMPRESSION AND DISCHARGE A FIREARM, SERIOUS BODILY INJURY AND ANY OTHER INVESTIGATIONS ASSIGNED AND APPROVED FOR REVIEW BY CHIEF OF POLICE, AM I COMPARING APPLES AND APPLES HERE?
>> THE ONE WE'D COPY THAT WAS, ANYWAY, IT'S ON OUR AGENDA.
IF WE WANT TO CHANGE IT, PERSONALLY, I'M FINE WITH IT.
IF COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE THEN WE SURELY CAN ON THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 11C, BRYAN, ONE THING THAT I GET A LOT-
>> THIS IS LET ME CATCH UP WITH YOU.
>> YES SIR. AS THE FLAMINGO CONTRACT GARDENS.
>> ONE THING I GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT IS ABOUT THE NEED TO INCREASE LANDSCAPING ON THE MEDIANS ON BROADWAY.
DOES THIS CONTRACT, THIS IS A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT I THINK, DOES THAT CONTRACT IS IT INCREASING, ARE WE DOING ANYTHING IN THE CONTRACT TO UPGRADING OUR LANDSCAPING ON BROADWAY?
>> ACTUALLY THE WAY WE DID THIS CURRENT BID WILL INCLUDE MORE CITY PROPERTIES AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO INCREASE BECAUSE WE PUT A CONTRACT ON BROADWAY THAT IT COMES UP TO 150,000 A YEAR AND OUR OTHER AREAS WHERE WE WOULD LOCK OURSELVES IN WITH A SET AMOUNT, THIS IS JUST WHATEVER THE BUDGET WILL ALLOW US TO DO.
WHEN WE HAVE THESE FUNDINGS FROM IDC APPROVED THE STREETS.
>> THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS LANDSCAPING COMPANY TO DO THAT.
THIS WILL HELP US IN THE LONG RUN. YES, SIR?
>> OKAY. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW, I GUESS.
>> DO YOU THINK PUTTING MORE LANDSCAPE IN THE MEDIANS WOULD TAKE YOUR EYE OFF OF ALL THE BAD LOOKING STUFF ON THE SIDES OF THE ROAD.
>> THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER TOPIC.
>> I'D RATHER SPEND MORE MONEY ON TRYING TO IMPROVE SIDEWALKS AND STUFF ON THE SIDE.
>> THAT'S A TOPIC I THINK THE COUNSELOR NEEDS TO ADDRESS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A BROADWAY AT HOC COMMITTEE AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT.
>> WELL AND THIS WILL GIVE US ALSO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WITH THE FREEZES THAT WE HAVE HAD.
IT'S JUST TAKEN A WHILE FOR SOME OF THIS LANDSCAPE TO COME BACK.
>> WE'VE GOT ISSUES OR WHATEVER LIKE I'M STILL.
>> WE'VE LOST OUR PALM TREES AND PUT IT ON HARBOR SIDE, WE'VE LOST SOME OTHERS.
TEXTILE TOOK CARE OF THE ONES ON THE WEST END FOR US AND NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY WATERING THEM THIS TIME.
>> DOES THIS INCLUDE THE REGULAR BECAUSE THE FIRST SET IS ALREADY STARTING TO DIE AND LOOKS LIKE THEY HAD NOT BEEN WATERED.
>> THAT VERY FIRST SECTION SEEMS TO BE THE ONE THAT'S REALLY STRUGGLING.
I MEAN, IT WAS SO LOAD OF GRASS FOR THEM TO PUT FRONT INSIDE AND PALM TREES AND NO IRRIGATION.
>> AND NOT ASK US, OR EVEN TELL US.
>> WELCOME TO OUR WORLD. [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION MORE, WE THANK YOU.
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GOOD MORNING TO YOU. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SELLER SYSTEM, MAINLY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND PERMITTING AND PLANNING AND PERMITS.
ARE WE UP TO A 100 PERCENT OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS SYSTEM NOW IF WE MAKE THESE CHANGES.
WE'VE BEEN MOVING TOWARDS ONLINE VIRTUAL SYSTEM FOR INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE APPLICATIONS AND ALL THE PERMITS.
WILL THIS ALLOW US TO GET TO THAT?
>> THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO ONLINE AND APPLY FOR PERMITS AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY MARKET A LITTLE BETTER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
THERE ARE SOME CHANGES TO THEIR PERMITTING TYPES AND OPERATIONS THAT THEY WILL WANT TO SEE TAKE PLACE, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PERMIT TYPES THAT THEY WANT TO INTEGRATE INTO.
THAT'S WHAT THIS WORK IS GOING TO DO FOR THEM.
>> FROM INSPECTIONS, CAN THE INSPECTOR LOGIN AND [NOISE] GIVE HIS COMMENTS OR HER COMMENTS THROUGH THE SELLER SYSTEM THE INSPECTORS THAT GO OUT?
>> THE COMMENTS ARE IN THERE, YES.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE'VE HAD SOME EARLY ON DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SELLER AND WE'VE DONE SOME DEMOS, THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF THE SYSTEMS THAT, IT'S COMING UP ON ITS LIFE CYCLE TO BE UPGRADED.
SO WE'VE STARTED THOSE EARLY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS TO SEE WHAT THAT NEXT APPLICATION USUAL EXPERIENCE LOOKS LIKE, AND TO DETERMINE THE LONGEVITY OF THE APPLICATION AND MAKING SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE ELECTRON PLAN REGULARLY.
>> ONE OF THE BIG THINGS I HEAR, THE ONLINE PORTAL IS GETTING USED A LOT.
BUT A LOT OF CONTRACTORS DON'T HAVE LAPTOPS OR WHATNOT, THEY USE THEIR PHONES AND I'VE HEARD FROM THEM THAT SETTLEMENT AT BE IS PHONE FRIENDLY IN ITS SELF.
>> THE USER VIANCE ON THE PERMITTING TO ME CAN BE GREATLY ENHANCED UNFORTUNATELY, WERE HELD HOSTAGE AND I'VE WORKED WITH JOHN PAUL ON THAT, WERE HELD TO WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING ON THEIR USER EXPERIENCE.
BUT IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, I BELIEVE THAT THE PORTAL EXPERIENCE CAN BE GREATLY ENHANCED AND WE'RE REALLY PUSHING THE VENDOR ON THAT.
>> GOOD. WITH THIS UPGRADE, WILL THERE BE AN APP, THAT THEY CAN USE ON THEIR PHONE?
>> IT'S NOT AN UPGRADE, EXCUSE.
IT'S JUST SOME ADDITIONAL BUSINESS PROCESS CHANGES, AND DUE TO STAFFING LEVELS, TYPICALLY WE BUILD THESE IN-HOUSE WITH IT STAFF AND THAT PARTICULAR POSITION IS BIGGER RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE HAVING TO OUTSOURCE BACK TO THE VENDOR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE IN-HOUSE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHY IT'S DIFFERENT [INAUDIBLE] TYPES OF THINGS SO [OVERLAPPING] IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE PAYING THE COMPANY TO DO ON THIS.
BUT UNTIL POINTED OUT, THIS IS NEARING ITS LIFE CYCLE.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE VENDOR FOR THE NEXT VERSION TO BE ENHANCED TO DO POSSIBLY AN APP OR SOME OTHER THINGS.
>> WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE, WE STAY WITH THIS SOFTWARE SOLUTION THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS AND PROBABLY NOT EARLY 2000S DISH OR WE GO OUT AND WE LOOK FOR A REPLACEMENT SOFTWARE SOLUTION.
EACH ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS HAS A PRO AND A CON TO IT, SO ANYTIME YOU GO FROM ONE SOLUTION TO ANOTHER, THERE'S A LOT OF COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE DATA OF CONVERSION AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THOSE AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT POTENTIALLY IN FY2013, THIS WILL BE A SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO COME UP ON OUR LIFE CYCLE FOR TECHNOLOGY AND INVESTMENT REPLACEMENT.
BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DETERMINED THAT YET.
>> SO IN '23 YOU'LL GO OUT AND YOU'LL LOOK AT THE PROS AND CONS OF POSSIBLY SWITCHING SOFTWARE OR STAYING WITH [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION NOW FOR PLANNING PURPOSES.
SO WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH FROM A BUDGETING PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING AT ALL THE TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS FOR FY23 THAT COME THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND HOW MANY WE CAN REALISTICALLY HANDLE FROM OUR RESOURCE UTILIZATION AS WELL AS A COST PERSPECTIVE FOR FY23 AND THAT'LL BE PART OF THAT FY23 BUDGETING PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF A SALE IS GOING MAKE IT INTO THE FY23, IT MAY BE '21.
>> THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM THEY HEARD OF?
>> THE FINANCIAL SYSTEMS ARE OUT THERE.
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WE HAVE SOME OTHER SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS THAT WE KNOW ARE ALSO CRITICAL.OUR RMSS SYSTEM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IS GOING TO BE IN THE PIPELINES SOON AS WELL AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE ANOTHER MAJOR SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION AND UPGRADED FY23.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS ACCELA? WHAT IS CARAHSOFT?
>> ACCELA IS FOR PROPRIETARY [INAUDIBLE], THEY DEVELOP THE SOFTWARE, THEY OWN THE SOFTWARE.
THEY HAVE THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS THAT ACTUALLY DO WORK AND ARE CERTIFIED TO WORK ON THEIR SYSTEM.
CARAHSOFT IS A VENDOR, IT'S THE PROCUREMENT VEHICLE.
THEY PARTNER WITH BRAN, I THINK IS THE NAME OF THE VENDOR IN THAT TOO.
THAT'S WHO'S THIRD WAY TO WORK ON THIS WHOLE SYSTEM.
BUT ACCELA IS THE PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE.
>> THAT'S NORMAL IN THE SOFTWARE INDUSTRY [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT IS FOR SOME, BUT IT'S MORE COMMON WITH THE ACCELA SOFTWARE SYSTEM.
THEY HAVE THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS.
THEY HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH JUST SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO EMPLOY THAT'S DOWN, SOMEBODY ELSE DOES.
>> BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE RMS SYSTEM, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY BE MOTOROLA, THEN MOTOROLA WOULD DELAY BY TOUCHING THINGS.
>> PROBABLY NOT. BUT WE DO THAT FOR OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM OR CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
PROPRIETARY CODE ON OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM BANNER IS A COMPANY CALLED THE LUCIEN.
WE GET OUR THIRD PARTIES SUPPORT FROM AMBULANCES. WE'RE NOT EVEN ON LARGE CONTRACT.
>> OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM RUNS ON COAL [LAUGHTER].
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ITEMS [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU SAW THAT WHEEL UP THERE, THE MYOSIN [OVERLAPPING].
>> JUST NEIGHBORS TO SAY, OH, I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS, I KNOW FINANCIALLY AS A CONCERN AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MANY BALLS IN THE AIR.
WE'RE TRYING TO JUGGLE. BUT SOON AS WE CAN UPDATE TO THE SYSTEM AND EVEN BECOME MORE RESPONSIVE, USER-FRIENDLY, [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE'RE LOOKING OUT OVER [OVERLAPPING] GRADE, BUT ALSO TO INTEGRATE WHERE WE CAN SO THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS.
MY LAST QUESTION, 11T IS IN TOM, THIS IS THE ITEM THAT COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO.
GOOD MORNING, JAMES. HOW ARE YOU? I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THIS ITEM DOES NOT CHANGE THE CURRENT SERVICE THAT WE ARE NOW EXPERIENCING.
>> THIS IS JUST RATIFYING WHAT WE DID IN '20.
SECONDLY, I THINK DAN BUCKLEY TOLD ME THAT WE HAD ADDITIONAL FUNDING COME UP SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO CUT TRANSIT SERVICE HERE, [OVERLAPPING] AND THIS YEAR IS IT FISCAL YEAR OR CALENDAR YEAR?
>> WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THAT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] FISCAL CALENDAR THEN WHEN DOES THAT CHANGE? [OVERLAPPING] SO JANUARY 1, OF 2023.
THEN YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING TO GET FUNDS START OVER AGAIN OR?
>> THE WAY WE'RE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW AND LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, THE SERVICE HAS TO MASTER FUNDINGS TOO, THAT'S THE GOLDEN RULE FOR TRANSIT.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON FORMULA FUNDING FROM FY21, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY FEDERAL STATE FUNDING FOR '22.
WHEN THE CENSUS COMES OUT, THEN WE'LL KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE SMALL REVENUE OR THERE ARE NO SMALL REVENUE.
>> JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE NUMBERS DOESN'T MEAN THE CENSUS HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND ACCEPTED BY THE FTA.
>> THE FORMULA FUNDING WILL USE THE MOST RECENT CENSUS.
>> THE FORMULA FUNDING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WAS BASED OF PREDICT AFTER WHERE WE WERE LEGISLATIVELY ADDED IN AS A SMALL [INAUDIBLE].
>> IF I MIGHT ADD, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS HOW MUCH FEDERAL MONEY IS AVAILABLE, IS NOT THE ONLY CRITERIA, YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO MATCH THAT WITH LOCAL FUNDS.
>> RIGHT. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CARRY OVER A LITTLE BIT OF
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FEDERAL FUNDING FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR.THE [INAUDIBLE] STATED IS ABOUT TO GO LOCAL FUNDS, THE DRAWDOWN AND FEDERAL FUNDS.
>> WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY, JAMES, THAT THIS UPCOMING BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING INTO HERE SHORTLY, WILL KEEP THE TRANSIT SERVICE AT THE LEVEL THAT IT IS NOW FOR THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR?
>> TODAY, JAMES ARE WE JUST DELAYING THE INEVITABLE OR ARE WE GETTING BACK TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SUFFICIENT FEDERAL FUNDING, EVEN LOCAL FUNDING TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE ARE GOING FORWARD?
>> WE WILL KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION VERY CANDIDLY.
WE WILL KNOW OCTOBER, NOVEMBER WHEN THE CENSUS ACTUALLY COMES DOWN, WHETHER WE HAVE SMALL REVENUE OR WE'RE NOT.
>> IF WE ARE SMALL REVENUE THEN THERE PROBABLY WILL BE SUFFICIENT FUNDING?
>> YES. IT OPENS THE FLOODGATES FORTH.
WE ACTUALLY WILL BE KNOCKED DOWN ABOUT $2 MILLION DEBIT '22.
>> WHY DID IT NOT [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHEN THEY PASSED THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, WHAT IT DID, THEY WENT BACK TO THE 2010 CENSUS.
IN 2010, GALTON WAS NOT A SMALLER REGION IN RURAL COMMUNITY
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, JAMES. I APPRECIATE THAT.
>>I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO THE BAY WATCH ISLAND TOURS FROM ONE THAT IS GOING TO TAKE IT BACK.
>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHEN WILL THIS TOUR COMPANY GET STARTED OR ARE THEY ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE TOUR?
>> YEAH, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS.
THEY HAVE THERE, THEY HAVE THE OFFER OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE OUT OF THE HARBORSIDE FACILITY, BUT THEY STILL WILL BEGIN OPERATIONS IF APPROVED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
COUNCIL, IT LOOKS LIKE WE PROBABLY WE'LL HAVE A QUICK REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE WE'VE DONE ALL OUR DISCUSSIONS.
VERY GOOD. JANELLE, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3B PLEASE, MA'AM.
>> THREE B, DISCUSSION OF CHANGES TO THE LICENSE TO USE ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO MOTORIZED VEHICLES.
>> STAFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> LET ME JUST RECAP THIS, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT BASICALLY, ONE OF THE CONFLICTS THAT WE WERE FINDING IS, IS THE RENTAL OF THESE GOLF CARTS OR NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THE CONFLICT THAT WE WERE HAVING IN OUR CODE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FIGURED OUT IS THEY ARE NO BIGGER THAN AN ABSURDITY IS RIGHT NOW.
BASICALLY, IN THE SIMPLEST OF TERMS, RIGHT NOW WE ALLOW I THINK IT'S SEVEN SURREYS TO BE DISPLAYED IF YOU WANT TO RENT SURREYS ON THE SEAWALL.
WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN HAVE SEVEN SURREYS AND OR GOLF CARTS AND OR NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THAT GROUP BECAUSE THEY DON'T TAKE UP ANY MORE OF A FOOTPRINT.
BASICALLY, BY DEFINITION, WE'RE MAKING GOLF CARTS NOT MOTOR VEHICLES AT THIS POINT, WE'RE HAVING A SPECIAL CATEGORY FOR GOLF CARTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WE HAVE ADDED SOME SPECIAL THINGS IN THERE LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE MOVING A GOLF CART ON THE SIDEWALK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPOTTER.
WE THINK THAT'S SAFE. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A SURREY.
GETTING BUMPED BY A SURREY IS DIFFERENT THAN GETTING HIT BY A GOLF CART.
WE HAVE SOME SAFETY THINGS IN THERE THAT WE'VE DONE BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TRYING TO CORRECT THIS BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE HAVE JUST A HODGEPODGE MISMATCH OF RULES UP THERE THAT'S HARD TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT TO GET THIS FIXED FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING BUSINESS OUT THERE.
>> VERY GOOD, TIM. [INAUDIBLE]
>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
BETWEEN BRIAN AND CATHERINE, THE WORKSHOP'S PRETTY WELL [LAUGHTER] UNDERWAY.
THIS REALLY ISSUES PARODY TO THE VEHICLE TYPES THAT THE PUBLIC IS UP THERE TO UTILIZE, WHETHER IT'S SURREYS, GOLF CARTS, NEVS, BIGGER VEHICLES LIKE THAT, OR EVEN OTHER MOTORIZED VEHICLES THAT ARE DEFINED AS MOTORIZED VEHICLES IN TRANSPORTATION CODE OR OTHER PLACES.
WE ISSUE LTUS ALL THE TIME FOR THOSE THINGS.
THIS REALLY IS BRINGING ABOUT THAT PARODY TO THOSE VEHICLE TYPES ALLOWING THE LTUS TO AUTHORIZE THEM UNDER CHAPTER 32,
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TAKING AWAY THE MOTOR VEHICLE PROHIBITIONS IN CHAPTER 34, AND REALLY COMING TOGETHER WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE THAT THE PUBLIC THEN CAN [NOISE] AS CLIENTS OF THOSE RENTAL UNITS CAN UTILIZE.JUST TO GET INTO SOME SPECIFICS ON IT, BRIAN MENTIONED A FEW OF THEM.
WE WOULD BE GOING IN THIS ORDINANCE TO EIGHT VERSUS SEVEN, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW.
THIS WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE NORTHERLY RIGHT-OF-WAY OF SEAWALL AND THEN BOTH NORTHERLY AND SOUTHERLY RIGHTS-OF-WAY OF BROADWAY.
THEY CAN MAKE THOSE SURREYS OR GOLF CARTS TO WHATEVER DEGREE THEY FEEL APPROPRIATE.
THEY WOULD DESIGNATE THE PLACEMENT AND THAT OF COURSE IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE DRIVING PUBLIC ROADWAY OR THE PARKING AREAS.
IT ALSO MANDATES THAT THERE'S AT LEAST A FIVE-FOOT MINIMUM REMAINING ON THE SIDEWALKS LIKE ALL OF OUR OTHER LTUS MANDATE BUT AS WELL, THAT A SIDEWALK WOULDN'T BE BLOCKING MORE THAN 50 PERCENT SO THAT'S A DUAL REVIEW OF CONDITIONS THAT WOULD COME IN WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR PLANS.
THEN AS BRIAN MENTIONED, AGAIN, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY'S STANDPOINT, WE'RE PUTTING IN HERE THAT THERE SHOULD BE TWO PEOPLE FROM THE BUSINESS WHEN THEY'RE RENTING AND GETTING THE FOLKS TO ENTER INTO THE VEHICLES SO THAT THEY CAN QUEUE THOSE VEHICLES OUT WITHOUT GETTING HIT, A SPOTTER SO TO SPEAK.
THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO VEHICLES THAT ARE FOR SALE, HOWEVER, JUST THE RENTAL.
WITH THAT, ARE THERE QUESTIONS I MIGHT ANSWER?.
>> WE HAVE JOHN AND THEN MARIE.
>> WHY GO FROM SEVEN TO EIGHT?
>> I THINK THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS IN TERMS OF HOW YOU QUEUE THEM OUT OVER GEOGRAPHIC AREAS AND THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM PROBABLY FOR MORE THAN EIGHT IN THE STANDARD BLOCK, BUT WE WENT TO EIGHT JUST BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THAT THOUGHT THEY COULD USE EIGHT OUT THERE.
IT REALLY WASN'T MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE SEVEN SO WE JUST THOUGHT THAT PROBABLY WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE TOO BIG AN ISSUE.
>> WHAT ARE WE USING FOR THE LENGTH OF GOLF CART? IF WE HAVE A FOUR-SEATER GOLF CAR COMPARED TO A SIX-SEATER GOLF CART, ARE WE USING A CERTAIN LENGTH OR WE'RE JUST SAYING IF YOU GOT EIGHT OF THEM OUT THERE, YOU'RE GOOD?.
>> NO, IT'S JUST THE QUANTITY.
OBVIOUSLY INTERRELATED WITH THAT IS THE 50 PERCENT AND OR FIVE-FOOT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT EXCEEDS THAT, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PLACE THOSE PARTICULAR VEHICLES OUT THERE.
THE OTHER ONES THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO.
>> I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE FIVE-FOOT AND THE 50 PERCENT TOO.
>> JUST WITH THE PLACING OUT THERE, SINCE THIS IS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, DOES IT HAVE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY?
>> ANY LTU. YOU CAN'T HAVE AN LTU ON THINGS THAT ARE SEGREGATED RIGHT AWAY FROM YOUR BUSINESS.
>> DOES THAT SAY THAT IN HERE SOMEWHERE?
>> NO, BUT IT'S JUST HOW WE PRACTICE IT OVER TIME.
JUST BY THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT LTUS OF ALL DIFFERENT KINDS.
WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT PUT OUT THE CHAIRS AND TABLES, ARTWORK AND AESTHETIC DISPLAYS, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S CONTAINED TO THE GEOGRAPHY OF YOUR LOT LINES EXTENDED OUT AND IT'S GOING TO CROSS THAT RIGHT AWAY.
>> ISN'T THAT JUST A DEPARTMENT RULE THAT YOU ALL FOLLOW?
>> YEAH, IT'S BEEN A WELL-KNOWN PRACTICED SITUATION.
ALTHOUGH YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT, IT DOESN'T HURT TO PUT THAT CLARIFICATION IN THERE.
>> I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, SO EITHER WAY.
THEN ON THE SIDEWALK WIDTH, SO BASICALLY YOU NEED 10 FOOT OF IMPROVED SURFACE TO FOLLOW THIS ORDINANCE AT A MINIMUM?
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>> WELL, I SAID THAT MAYBE THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
>> PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR-AND-A-HALF, FIVE FEET WIDE.
>> OKAY. LET'S SAY IT'S FIVE FEET, YOU WOULD NEED A MINIMUM OF 10 FOOT OF IMPROVED SURFACE TO [INAUDIBLE] AN LTU TO PLACE A GOLF CART IN THE PUBLIC ROADWAY?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH ROOM SO THAT AT LEAST 50 PERCENT OF THE SIDEWALK WAS ENCUMBERED WITH A MINIMUM DIMENSION OF FIVE FEET AS WELL.
THOSE ARE LAYERING RIGHT HERE.
>> THERE'S A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET OF WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK THAT'S MANDATED AND ALSO LAYERING ON TOP OF THAT IS THE 50 PERCENT.
[OVERLAPPING] OF THE EXISTING SIDEWALK.
>> YOU CANNOT TAKE MORE THAN 50 PERCENT? I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.
>> YEAH, IT'S A LAYERING CRITERIA JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE PEDESTRIANS.
THAT'S OUR FIRST AND FOREMOST CONCERN HERE IS THAT FOLKS CONTINUE TO USE IT APPROPRIATELY.
HOWEVER, WE DO KNOW THAT ON THE SEAWALL, THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE QUITE WIDE AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ALLOWS IS 50 PERCENT OF THAT SIDEWALK TO BE USED AS MAXIMUM.
IN THAT CASE, IN SMALLER SIDEWALKS LIKE ON BROADWAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE YOU HAVE VARIOUS WHERE IT IS SMALLER, IT'S JUST A FIVE-FOOT MINIMUM.
>> THAT'S TRUE OF SAY POST-OFFICE OR ANY STREET WHERE YOU HAVE LTUS?
IN REGULAR LTUS, IT'S A FIVE-FOOT MINIMUM.
>> JUST THE FIVE-FOOT MINIMUM?
>> FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE, WE ALSO WANTED.
>> FOR THE VEHICLE [INAUDIBLE].
>> BUT IN THE 50 PERCENT REQUIREMENT.
>> BECAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE ON EVERYTHING, I'M SORRY, I FIND THAT CONFUSING.
>> THEN OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T TAKE UP A PARKING SPACE WITH THIS.
THIS HAS TO REMAIN OUTSIDE OF A PARKING SPACE.
>> FOR DISPLAY PURPOSES ENUMERATED HERE, YES.
YOU CAN STILL OBVIOUSLY RENT A PARKING SPACE AS YOU WOULD, A PARALLEL PARKING SPACE AND PAY THE FEE BUT NOT FOR DISPLAY, FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
>> YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO PARK IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS.
[OVERLAPPING] YOU CAN BUY ALL THE PARKING.
YOU CAN PUT ANY WALL, SEAWALL STICKERS ON ALL YOUR GOLF CART.
>> WELL AND THEN PARK THEM IN FRONT OF YOUR BUSINESS SO IT COULD BE DISPLAYED ON.
>> THAT'S USING A HARD THING TO PLEASE.
>> WELL, THAT'S THE PROBLEM NOW [OVERLAPPING] IS THAT GOLF CART RENTALS COMPANIES ARE PUTTING GOLF CARTS IN THE PARKING SPACE.
THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE PARKING.
BUT WITHIN OUR ORDERS RIGHT NOW, THAT IS NOT ALLOWED.
>> BECAUSE THEY ARE ON DISPLAY. IT'S NOT ALLOWED.
>> IT'S HARD TO ENFORCE, YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND YOU JUST SAY, HEY [OVERLAPPING]
>> [OVERLAPPING] ISSUE, IS THAT A DISPLAY OR IS THAT A CUSTOMER'S? OR IS IT A RENTAL? ARE YOU RENTING IT FROM THE LANE OF TRAFFIC? FROM THE PARKING LANE? THAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE.
>> DOING THIS WILL LIKELY REDUCE SOME OF THAT PROBLEM.
>> THIS JUST APPLIES TO BROADWAY AND SEAWALL.
>> WHAT IF IT'S LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE?
>> IT DOESN'T ADDRESS. WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZING.
IN FACT, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER GOLF CART BUSINESSES THAT ARE RENTING.
>> BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE THEY SET BACK THERE.
>> THEY'VE GOT A SIGNIFICANT SETBACK.
>> THEY CAN'T OPERATE ON 61ST STREET ANYWAY.
>> WE HAD MURRAY AND THEN MIKE.
>> ON THE THING WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN ORDER TO RENT A GOLF CART OUT.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE ALSO KNOW WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY'S ECONOMY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING EMPLOYEES.
EMPLOYEE MAY BE OUT SICK, WHATEVER.
WHAT IF THAT'S THE CASE WHERE THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON AT THE LOCATION.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RENT OUT GOLF CARTS THAT DAY.
>> THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A SPOTTER.
>> GOT TO HAVE A SPOTTER. THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, BECAUSE THESE GOLF CARTS, THEY MOVE FASTER AND THEY'RE HEAVIER THAN ACCESSORIES.
I DON T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD WAIVER ON.
BUT THE CUSTOMER COULD BE PULLING THE GOLF CART OUT AND THE PERSON THAT'S RENTING IT MIGHT BE DIRECTING THEM IN.
>> NO, BUT I THINK IT SAYS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THE CUSTOMER CAN'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT'S OUT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT WAS THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAD WITH TRYING TO FIX THIS WAS THAT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE DRIVING THE GOLF CARTS DOWN.
I DON'T WANT THEM DRIVING GOLF CARTS ON THE SIDEWALK WHERE WE HAVE PEDESTRIANS.
>> THEN THAT LEADS TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
SINCE NOW WE'RE GROUPING THE ACCESSORIES TOGETHER WITH THE GOLF CARTS.
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TRADITIONALLY DRIVEN ON THE PAVEMENT WHERE GOLF CARTS ARE DRIVEN IN THE STREET.>> WELL, ONCE THE GOLF CARTS ARE IN OPERATION, IT IS A MOTOR VEHICLE, AND YOU CAN'T OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE ON THE SIDE WALK.[OVERLAPPING].
>> THIS IS JUST FOR PARKING DISPLAY.
>> IT'S STILL A MOTOR VEHICLE BY ALL DEFINITION, AND YOU CANNOT OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE ON THE SIDEWALK.
>> THE ORDINANCE SAYS GOLF CARTS ARE NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THE WHOLE GOLF CART, NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND MOTORIZED VEHICLE.
IT TRANSFORMS ITSELF FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE TO A MOTORIZED VEHICLE ONCE THE RENTER TAKES CONTROL OF IT?
[LAUGHTER] BUT REALLY WHAT IT IS, IF YOU'RE A MOTOR VEHICLE, YOU'RE A MOTOR VEHICLE UNDER THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE.
THIS BASICALLY SAYS FOR LTU PURPOSES, THAT THOSE TYPE OF MOTOR VEHICLES, GOLF CARTS AND NEVS, CAN STILL PARK IN THAT SIDEWALK IF IT MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA.
IT REALLY DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT IT BECOMES ONE THING OR ANOTHER.
IT'S STILL REMAINS, BUT IT'S JUST ALLOWED.
>> THE REASON WE SPECIFY THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE RENTING OR SELLING CARS FROM THE SIDEWALK.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL ISSUES WITH THAT, BECAUSE TEXAS BASICALLY IS SAYING, HEY, THIS IS THE MOTOR VEHICLE.
>> WE'RE HOMELAND CITY, WE DO THIS.
>> WE HAVE MOTOR VEHICLES THAT CROSS THE SIDEWALK ALL UP AND DOWN THE SEAWALL TO ACCESS PARKING LOTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, MOST OF THESE PLACES ARE AT OR NEAR CORNER, SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TRAVERSING OF THE SIDEWALK WITH THE VEHICLE.
BUT IF THEY DO HAVE TO MOVE THE GOLF CART TO WHERE THE GOLF CART CAN BE SAFELY OPERATED AS A MOTOR VEHICLE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SPOTTER. OKAY.
>> MURRAY MUST BE GRIEVING HER MONEY.
>> I'M GOING TO CUT BACK ON JUST THE ADD-ON TO THAT.
IT'S NOT A MOTOR VEHICLE TILL THE PASSENGER IS DRIVING IT.
>> NO IT'S ALWAYS A MOTOR VEHICLE, BUT WE'RE ALLOWING GOLF CARTS AND THEY WERE ELECTRIC VEHICLES TO BE DISPLAYED ON THE SIDEWALK.
>> IF THE OWNER IS BACKING THE GOLF CART OUT TO THE STREET.
HE STILL HAS TO HAVE A SPOTTER?
>> ONLY THE OWNER CAN BACK IT OUT OR A PERSON COULD DO.
>> I THINK THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE BUSINESS.
>> THIS IS ALL RELATED TO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT RANK THOSE VEHICLES.
YEAH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE EMPLOYEE OF THE BUSINESS.
>> WILLIAM, YOU HAD A QUESTIONS.
>> WITH THE LTU IT'S NOT FOR ANY PUBLIC PARKING SPOTS.
WHAT IF I HAD A BUSINESS AND I REALLY WANTED JUST THOSE TWO PARKING SPOTS.
I HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY AND ASK FOR AN ABANDONMENT OF TWO PARKING SPOTS?
>> WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T ABANDON.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE SEAWALL, THERE'S ANOTHER LAYER THAT INVOLVES WITH THIS WHICH MARINA KNOWS, WHICH IS THE GLM OR REJECTS AS PLAN.
THE OTHER THING IS YOU CAN'T JUST RESERVE PARKING SPOTS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS, I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF GOING TO THE EIGHT SPOTS.
I'M ALL FOR HELPING TO BUSINESSES AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ORDINANCE AND I'M FINE WITH IT.
I WOULD RATHER SET TO SEVEN THAN GO TO EIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE INCREASE THAT NUMBER.
IF YOU WANT SEVEN SERIES, YOU GET SEVEN SERIES, YOU WANT THREE SERIES AND FOUR GOLF CARTS.
THE ISSUE BECOMES WITH OUR LOCK LIST.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET ANY TO CROSS ANYWAY.
>> THERE WAS SOME RHYME OR REASON TO THE SEVEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT WHEN IT WAS APPROVED.
[OVERLAPPING].THE LTU. WHO APPLIES, THE BUSINESS OWNER OR THE PROPERTY OWNER? [NOISE]
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>> THE BUSINESS OWNER DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO APPLY?
>> I THINK THEY NEED THE APPROVAL, BUT THEY CONVENE THE APPLICANT.
>> THE BUSINESS OWNER DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER APPROVES THIS?
>> YES. WE REQUIRE THAT IN OUR LTO [OVERLAPPING]
>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
>> WHEN WOULD THIS GO, IN FACT, IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS?
>> OKAY. BRIAN, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF NOTIFICATION.
>> IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE PUTTING A STRICTER RULE ON IT WE'RE RELAXING THE RULE.
BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY PUT OUT AN EDUCATIONAL THING IMMEDIATELY UPON DOING IT.
BUT I WOULD BET A LOT OF THESE ARE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS WEEKEND.
>> WELL, THEY MAY. THE EDUCATIONAL THING, DOES THAT MEAN A NEWS RELEASE OR DOES IT MEAN CONTACTING [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'LL PROBABLY CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF THE SHORT NOTICE.
>> WE NEED TO CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.
>> THEY STILL WOULD HAVE TO APPLY.
[OVERLAPPING] THE APPLICATION PROCESS WILL TAKE A FEW DAYS.
>> IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC. [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT BRIAN, YOU SAID THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE THIS WEEKEND.
WHO IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE WRITING TICKETS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS? [LAUGHTER]
SO IT PASSES TONIGHT AND THEY APPLY FRIDAY MORNING.
>> WE'LL TRY [LAUGHTER] BUT NONETHELESS, WE'LL CONTACT THOSE BUSINESSES INDIVIDUALLY.
THIS IS THE ANCILLARY BENEFIT HERE IS WE'RE WORKING WITH THESE BUSINESSES.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
>> THIS IS ONE OF THEIR REASONS.
>> I WANT TO THANK TIM AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THIS.
I SAT IN ON ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS WHEN THEY WERE BRAINSTORMING THIS.
THESE TYPE OF THINGS ARE NOT EASY TO PUT TOGETHER.
THERE'S A LOT OF RAMIFICATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THIS ON EVERY ONE OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S A REASON THAT THEY WERE DONE.
THEN THERE'S 15 DIFFERENT SPOTS IN THE CODE THAT IF YOU DON'T TOUCH EVERY ONE OF THEM, YOU'VE GOT A CONFLICT.
>> WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS COMPREHENSIVELY AND HIT THOSE ISSUES THAT MIGHT CONFLICT IN FUTURE.
>> BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WITH THIS, THERE WILL BE SOME NEW THING THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
>> BUT I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT CATHERINE, [OVERLAPPING] SHE'S REALLY WHO YOU OUGHT TO BE THANKING.
>> THANK YOU, CATHERINE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3C, PLEASE. GENAL.
[3.C. Presentation Of The Investment Report For Quarter Ended March 31, 2022 (M. Loftin -10 Min)]
>> 3C PRESENTATION OF THE INVESTMENT REPORT FOR QUARTER ENDED MARCH 31ST, 2022.
>> COUNSEL, AS YOU MAY KNOW, THIS ITEM THAT MR. LOCKE.
IS GOING TO DISCUSS IS A ITEM 11A ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON.
WE WILL BE APPROVING THAT FORMALLY THIS AFTERNOON.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS MAYOR SAID THIS IS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
THIS IS OUR REGULAR QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND RECEIVED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS REQUIRED BY OUR INVESTMENT POLICY AND STATE LAW.
AS OF MARCH 31ST, WE HAD A $139 MILLION IN OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO WHICH WAS 13.6 MILLION MORE THAN DECEMBER 31ST.
REASON FOR THAT, OF COURSE, IS THAT'S WHEN PROPERTY TAXES CAME IN FIRST QUARTER OF 22.
WE WERE EXACTLY 50 PERCENT LIQUID IN OVERNIGHT INVESTMENTS, AND 50 PERCENT IN TREASURY NOTES [NOISE] THAT MATURED ON THE LATTER BASIS FROM JUNE THROUGH NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
WE WERE STRICTLY AN OVERNIGHT BOX FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE MARKETS, AND WHEN FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD BEGAN TO RAISE INTEREST RATES BACKGROUND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE RESPONDED TO THAT AND BOUGHT SOME OF THAT YOU HAVE COLUMN INTERMEDIATE GRADE, AND INVESTMENTS NOW RAISED OUR OVERALL EARNINGS TO 0.28 PERCENT HIGHER THAN THE 0.058 PERCENT INTEREST EARNINGS WE HAD FOR THE QUARTER THAT ENDED DECEMBER 31ST.
WELL, WE DIDN'T COUNT ON OUR INVESTMENT ADVISORS TOOK THE FALL AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR THIS WAS, WE ALSO ARE REFLECTING ON UNREALIZED LOSS BASED ON MARKET VALUE OF THOSE SECURITIES, AS OF MARCH 31ST.
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THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN MY TIME HERE.BUT AGAIN, I THINK PEOPLE WERE LOOKING LONGER.
THEY WERE STARTING TO GRAB SOME OF THE TWO YEAR NOTES, AND WHAT HAVE YOU THAT GENERALLY WE ISSUE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE NEED TO REMAIN LIQUID GOING THROUGH HURRICANE SEASON, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT A CASTLE AGENDA THIS MORNING THAT DEMONSTRATES THE NEED FOR LIQUIDITY AS WELL AS THAT AT 23RD STREET PROJECT.
AS SOON AS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVE THAT, WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THAT, WE'VE GOT A PONY UP 10 MILLION IN CASH.
SO WE'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE IF THERE ARE INVESTMENTS, AND WE DID GAIN INTEREST INCOME OF $67,000 AS OF MARCH 31ST.
YOU'LL SEE US CONTINUE TO LETTER OUR INVESTMENT'S GOING FORWARD AND MAINTAIN [BACKGROUND] A PRESENCE IN THE MARKET WITH HIGHER RATES.
[BACKGROUND] WE TYPICALLY DON'T GRAB FOR PROFIT BECAUSE OUR POLICY [NOISE] IS BASED ON SAFETY, LIQUIDITY, DIVERSITY, AND YIELD.
YIELD IS THE LAST OF THE FOUR CRITERIA TO BE CAREFUL AND TO PROTECT OUR INVESTMENTS.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LOCKE? GOOD, WE'LL BE SEEING YOU THIS AFTERNOON, MIKEY AT THE REGULAR MEETING.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. AS WE JUST STAY SEATED.
GENAL COULD DO ITEM 3D, PLEASE MA'AM.
[3.D. Discussion Of The Budget Schedule (M. Loftin - 20 Min)]
>> 3D, DISCUSSION OF THE BUDGET SCHEDULE.
>> COUNCIL, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET SCHEDULE THAT MR. BOSTON WORKING WITH STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER.
MIKEY WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THE SR.
>> YEAH. WE'VE GOT COPIES OF THAT COMING AROUND THE TABLE NOW.
BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THE SCHEDULE AND THERE'S TWO AUXILIARY ITEMS THAT I DO WANT TO KEEP IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE ONE OF THEM WILL BE ON THE REVIEWING AGENDA.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT NEXT BUT, WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE 23 BUDGET IS THE BUDGET OFFICE IS WORKING WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS, AS WE ALWAYS DO TO DEVELOP DETAILS THAT ESSENTIALLY TWEAKS THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
THERE'S NO BIG DRAMATIC CHANGES.
AGAIN IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A $500,000 TO $600,000 ELECTRICITY ACCOUNT IN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE PAY FOR STREETLIGHTS AND TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING THE COUNCIL TO DO IS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE DETAIL OF THE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS TO LOOK AT THE 22 ADOPTED BUDGET THIS YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT 23 LOOKS LIKE FROM A BASE STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF PEOPLE, SUPPLY ACCOUNTS, SERVICE ACCOUNTS, AND THEN SPECIALIZED ACCOUNTS LIKE THE ELECTRICITY ACCOUNT IN THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT.
WHAT THAT DOES, THAT ALLOWS THE DEPARTMENT'S AND BUDGET OFFICE TO PROCEED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS BEAST FOR 23 WHICH COMES TOGETHER ON A VERY ITERATIVE BASIS.
WHEN WE TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE BUDGET, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION.
THERE'S A MANAGEMENT PLAN IN HERE.
IT TALKS ABOUT LEVELS OF SERVICE, QUANTITY AND QUALITY OF SERVICE, AND NOT JUST EXPENDITURES.
WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING RIGHT NOW IS THAT OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, NOT BEGINNING MONDAY, MAY 30TH BECAUSE THAT IS MEMORIAL DAY, [LAUGHTER] BUT BEGINNING ON TUESDAY, MAY 31ST.
WE'LL REACH OUT TO SCHEDULE THESE MEETINGS, RUN IT THROUGH FRIDAY, JUNE 10TH.
WE'LL MEET WITH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS YOU SEE FIT.
THIS IS NOT A PERFUNCTORY MEETING.
WE'LL SET ASIDE AS MUCH TIME AS WE NEED TO TALK WITH YOU, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO WANT TO COVER IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHAT OUR HISTORICAL REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE TRENDS ARE LOOKING LIKE.
I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON EARLY LOOK AT THE PROPERTY TAX ROLL.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S INDIVIDUAL APPRAISAL NOTICES REFLECTED INCREASE AS WELL.
THE OVERALL INCREASE IN THE ROLL IS ABOUT LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR.
IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 35 PERCENT.
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL BE COMPELLED TO
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REDUCE THE TAX RATE TO A SIGNIFICANT EXTENT LIKE WE WERE THIS LAST YEAR, TO STAY WITHIN THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT REVENUE INCREASE MAXIMUM.I THINK THE EXPERIENCE THAT THE CITY OF LA MARQUE HAD WITH GOING INTO AN ELECTION ON THE TAX RATE, SHOULD SERVE AS INSTRUCTIVE LESSON FOR ALL JURISDICTIONS AND THE AREAS TO THE DANGER THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT WE WANT TO ALSO TOUCH ON DURING THESE MEETINGS, THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE NEXT YEAR.
OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING CONTRACTS REFLECT CPI RELATED INCREASES.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WHEN THEY SIGNED THESE AGREEMENTS, INCLUDING THE UNIONS, EXPECTED THE CPI TO BE EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT.
SO WE'RE TALKING WHAT WOULD NORMALLY HAVE BEEN $200,000 INCREASE BEING IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS NOW FOR NEXT YEAR BY CONTRACT.
>> THE GODS ARE COMING AT YOU, BRIAN.
>> IT'S A GOOD THING FOR OUR OFFICERS, IT'S A GOOD THING FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO.
>> OUR PRIORS ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO END UP WITH TWO PERCENT.
>> TWO PERCENT, BUT THEY'VE GOT A BIG INCREASE LAST YEAR.
[OVERLAPPING] WE TOOK THEM LAST YEAR, BUT THERE'S SOME PENSION ISSUES WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TOO, BECAUSE THE MARKET HASN'T PERFORMED AS WELL AS IT DID LAST YEAR.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT THE MAIN THING I WANT TO DO IS I WANT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE.
JUST SIT DOWN THE STAFF, GET ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU EVER HAD.
WHY IS IT THIS WAY? WHY IS IT THAT WAY? WHAT IS THIS? WE WANT TO DO THAT.
IT'S HARD TO DO THAT IN A FIXED MEETING ON TV WITH EVERYBODY AROUND NOW.
WHAT I WANT TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE GOOD NOTES AND MINUTES WHEN WE MEET WITH YOU GUYS.
THEN WHEN WE MEET AGAIN IN JUNE, PART OF THE JUNE BUDGET WORKSHOP WILL BE A RECAP OF WHAT WE TALKED TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT AND WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THAT AGAIN SO THE GENERAL PUBLIC KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE.
WE'RE NOT DOING THESE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS TO HIDE THE BALL, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO TAKE A GOOD DEEP DIVE INTO THIS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IS GETTING DOWN TO THE END AND YOU ARE STILL BEING QUESTIONED.
WE WANT TO GET ALL THAT ADDRESSED EARLY ON, UPFRONT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE GENERAL FUND.
WE DO TRY TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE THAN LIFT SERVICE, IF YOU WILL TO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
THE SPECIAL FUNDS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
THEY'RE SPECIAL BECAUSE THEY'RE SPECIAL TARGETS THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE AIMED AT.
FROM YEAR TO YEAR, THAT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY COMES IN EACH OF THOSE SPECIAL FUNDS.
THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE PARTICULARLY NOT WORTHY.
ISLAND TRANSIT IS ONE, BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY CUT AND DRIED.
GENERAL FUND IS WHERE THE STORY IS.
IT'S WHERE PROPERTY TAXES POLICY IS AT, IT'S WHERE THESE COMPENSATION ISSUES ARE ADJUSTED.
I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU'D SPEND SOME TIME WITH 22 ADOPTED BUDGET AND GO THROUGH IT AND JUST LOOK AT IT [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE TOPIC THAT ALWAYS GETS EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION IS YOUR AD VALOREM TAXES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY GETS HIT WITH AND THAT'S A BIG THING.
WHEN YOU DO A DEEP DIVE IN OUR BUDGET WE REALIZE THAT THE AD VALOREM TAXES DO NOT EVEN PAY FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
OF COURSE, THAT'S THE LION'S SHARE OF OUR BUDGET, BUT IT DOES NOT EVEN COVER POLICE OR FIRE.
WITH ABSENT SALES TAX, THERE'S BASICALLY COVERS ALL THE REST OF THE CITY'S OPERATIONS.
WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, YOU START SEEING THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE.
OF COURSE, IF YOU REMEMBER, THE TAX CODE THAT'S IN PLACE AT THE STATE, BY DESIGN WAS TO WEAN MUNICIPALITIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS, OR PASS OVER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BUT MUNICIPALITIES FROM AD VALOREM TAX, AND WE MOVE THINGS MORE TO CONSUMPTIVE TYPE TAX WORK.
GALVESTON IS AT A GOOD SPOT FOR THAT.
BUT IT'S REALLY AN EYE-OPENER FOR PEOPLE.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR TAXES AND HOW MUCH THEY PAY TO REALIZE THAT IT DOES NOT EVEN COVER THE FULL COST OF THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> HOW ARE WE IN A GOOD SPOT FOR THEM?
>> BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD SALES TAX.
>> WE HAVE DECENT SALES TAX WITHOUT A DOUBT, BUT.
>> YOUR SALES TAX TO PROPERTY TAX MIX IS MUCH BETTER THAN SAY, GLEN CITY.
>> YOU JUST POINTED OUT THOUGH THAT THE AD VALOREM TAX DOESN'T EVEN PAY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY HERE?
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD IS HOW MANY YEARS INTO THE FUTURE DO WE THINK THIS IS SUSTAINABLE? FOR WE HAVE TO START DOING THIS, AT LEAST CIVILIAN LAYOFFS IF NOT PUBLIC SAFETY LAYOFFS.
>> I'LL TELL YOU THAT PRIOR TO
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THE THREE-AND-A-HALF PERCENT KEPT TAKING EFFECT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, WE WERE AVERAGING FIVE-AND-A-HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE A YEAR.THIS YEAR, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, LOOKS LIKE IT'LL BE ABOUT WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR, TURNED OUT TO BE A 1.8 PERCENT INCREASE.
THEN FROM A DOLLAR STANDPOINT, IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT THAT IT WAS.
IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE HEARINGS' PROCESS, BUT IT PROBABLY GOING TO END UP WHERE IT ENDED UP LAST YEAR AS I SAID.
IF WE CAN GO AND CONTINUED TO REALIZE THREE TO THREE-AND-A-HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN BASE REVENUE, AND YOU HAD THAT AMOUNT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION ON TOP OF IT, WE'RE IN THE BALLPARK WITH WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.
IF YOU A LOOK AT THIS SECTION.
>> BUT JUST REMEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
>> WELL, THEY KEEP SUB DIVIDING WRONG, SO I DON'T THINK WE WILL.
>> BUT WE HOPEFULLY WON'T HAVE EIGHT-AND-A-HALF PERCENT COST OF LIVING INCREASES EVERY YEAR FOR ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEE GROUPS.
THAT'S THE OTHER THING, IS HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THAT?
>> BUT AS YOU LEAN MORE AND MORE ON CONSUMPTIVE TAX, THAT'S A FINE IDEA.
WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO INCREASE THE CONSUMPTIVE TAX RATE.
>> WE ARE STRAINED NOW BY BOOK.
BEST WE CAN DO IS FORECAST AND CROSS OUR FINGERS.
>> WE'RE CONSENTING ABOUT WHAT? WHICH THEY VOTE?
>> WELL, WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER CONSUMPTIVE TAX RATE ANYMORE THAN WE DO OVER THE PROPERTY.
WE HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER PROPERTY TAX RATES, WE HAVE ZERO CONTROL CONSUMPTIVE TAX RATE.
>> THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS TRY TO GROW THE CONSUMPTIVE TAX BASE.
MEANING, CREATING MORE BUSINESSES THAT GENERATE SALES TAX.
>> THEN THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE REVENUE SOURCES, SUCH AS WE'VE GOT COMING ON BOARD IN NOVEMBER OF 22 AT CRUISE TERMINAL 3.
DAVID AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT TAPPING THAT.
I'M PREDICTING IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $600-$800,000 COMING INTO THE CITY.
>> AS OPPOSED TO $3 MILLION, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT IT OUGHT TO BE.
[LAUGHTER] SHOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE WE SORT FOR A COUNCIL, WENT OUT, AND DECIDED THEY GET IT FREE.
>> I THINK IT'S VERY ASTUTE IN THEIR PLANNING.
>> THIS IS WHEN I GET TO SAY THOSE ARE POLICY DISCUSSIONS STAFF DOESN'T GET INVOLVED IN.
>> WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE REVENUE SOURCES.
I THINK THAT'S ONE THING WE NEED TO DO.
WE'VE GOT TO THE PART BOARD, WE'VE SEAWOLF PARK, MONEY IS COMING IN.
DON'T THEY HAVE SOME PAYMENT TOWARDS THE SEAWOLF PARK?
>> IT'S NOT A PAYMENT FOR SEAWOLF PARK.
THESE ARE JUST THE GENERAL REVENUE SHARING FROM THE PARK ORDER TO COME THROUGH ABOUT $300,000.
I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE $300,000.
YOU JUST NAMED TWO PLACES THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE US A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THEY GOT US A MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR.
WE NOW HAVE THE CRUISE TERMINAL THAT'S GOING TO ADD ANOTHER $500, $600,000 TO THAT WHEN IT'S FULLY OPERATIONAL.
LET'S HOPE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER DOWNTURN IN CRUISES.
>> I HAVE NO DOUBT TOWARDS THAT.
>> THESE ARE ONE-TIME THINGS THAT ONE TIME INCREASES, THAT DON'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO MATCHING THE COST INCREASE IN THINGS LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND ALSO INCREASING IN JUST GENERAL OPERATING EXPENDITURES.
>> OUR FUEL COSTS ARE UP. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY ABOUT IT?
>> WELL, THOSE REVENUE SOURCES ARE ANNUAL FEES.
>> NO. IT IS AN ONGOING INCREASE.
BUT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR ABOUT $147 MILLION LAST YEAR, IF MEMORY SERVES RIGHT.
PEOPLE THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT THAT IS A ONE-TIME INCREASE OF ABOUT $700, 000 TO THE GENERAL FUND.
>> WE SET SOME RECORDS WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION LAST YEAR AND IN THIS YEAR.
>> WE'RE ON THE ATTEMPT TO DO THE SAME.
>> WHAT WAS YOUR TAXES RATING?
>> IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION, PERHAPS THIS IS AN ITEM THAT CAN BE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS SCHEDULE.
>> WE'RE OFF HERE, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU.
>> LET ME MENTION ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS THAT COUNCIL, AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE WILL STAMP CONTACT COUNCIL MEMBERS.
>> YES. CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WILL.
>> THANK YOU, MIKE. JUST A THOUGHT ON THAT.
THESE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY TO EDUCATE OURSELVES ON THIS BUDGET AND UNDERSTAND IT MORE THOROUGHLY, IT'S GOING TO BE A TIME FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET THEIR THOUGHTS TO BRIAN ON HOW YOU WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ITEMS OR CHANGES IN THIS BUDGET.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.
I TALKED WITH BRIAN ABOUT TWO ITEMS THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE A DESIRE FOR,
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BUT I'VE GIVEN OVER TO BRIAN AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO IS BEGIN OUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS.WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE. YES, MAUREEN.
>> BUT TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IN THIS SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE LEAVING ENOUGH TIME FOR JOINT MEETINGS.
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IN DISCUSSION THINGS LIKE JOB MIGHT COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE AND IT'S LIKE, GO AHEAD AND YOU'VE LOOKED AT THAT POINT.
BECAUSE I STILL BELIEVE WE SHOULDN'T LOOK AT GOING INTO THE BUDGET, ASSURING WE'RE GOING TO DO A 3.5.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE THAN THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE EVEN ADD ANOTHER WORKSHOP MEETING WHERE WE CAN ALL BE TOGETHER DISCUSSING.
BECAUSE EVEN WHEN YOU'RE MEETING WITH EACH COUNCIL PERSON INDIVIDUALLY, YOU'RE TAKING THE NOTES OF WHAT YOUR ASSUMPTION OF THAT MEETING WAS VERSUS EVERYONE BEING TOGETHER IN A ROOM DISCUSSING IT.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHY WHEN WE BRING IT BACK IN JUNE, WE'LL BRING IT UP, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY DISCUSS.
SAY "NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT," OR, "THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M FOR.".
>> BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THAT JUNE DATE DISCUSSION, THEN PASS OVER PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS AND SO FORTH.
[OVERLAPPING]. I'M NOT MOVING THIS ALONG WITH.
I'M NOT THAT I'D LIKE TO MEET ALL THE TIME AND BE HERE.
>> BECAUSE THE EXEMPTIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THOSE, AS MIKE SAYS, YOU'RE PRIMARY PERFUNCTORY.
THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH STANDARD.
ALL THOUGH THIS YEAR, I THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOME THINGS THAT WILL ACTUALLY BENEFIT OUR PERMANENT RESIDENTS.
>> THEY'VE GOT A HANDOUT THAT THIS MAY BE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
>> WE HAVE THAT TO DISCUSS TODAY.
TO GIVE YOU SOME HEADS UP ON THAT.
>> BECAUSE I THINK WE ALSO LOOK AT WHERE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHAT AREAS OF THE ISLAND, WITH IMPROVEMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE, COULD WE HAVE MORE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD EASE THIS LOAD AS WELL.
THEN WITH THE ADVENT AND THINGS HAPPENING ON PELICAN ISLAND AND THE PORT AS A WHOLE.
>> YOU SEE, THE ISSUE, THAT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH THE EXPANSION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ONLY WAY INFRASTRUCTURE GETS EXPANDED IS ON THE BACKS OF THE CURRENT RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] WHERE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO MAKE INVESTMENTS.
>> BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN FORM THOSE PARTNERSHIPS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT CONTINUAL INCREASE.
>> BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE VAST AMOUNTS OF LAND THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE TO PLOW UP.
>> WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH DISTRICT SIX LAND?
>> BUT WHAT YOU HAVE IN DISTRICT SIX IS MINUSCULE COMPARED TO TEXAS CITY, BURR, DIMICK CITY.
WE COMPARE MORE CLOSELY THAN YOU'RE FRIENDS WOULD. IT'S OUR MOST BUILT DOWN.
>> ONE THING WE NEED TO REMEMBER, AND I THINK ALL THE COUNCIL DOES, BUT POSSIBLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS, ONCE WE LOWER THIS TAX RATE, THE WAY THIS LAW HAS STAGED, THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION OF A 3.5 PERCENT TAX CAP, IT LOWERS OUR BENCHMARK.
>> YEAH, EVERY YEAR, THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING DOWN AND DOWN AND IT CONTINUES TO LOWER THAT BENCHMARK.
I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN, AND WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS LAST YEAR, I THINK JOHN, YOU HAD BROUGHT UP SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WANTING TO GO TO THE NO-NEW-REVENUE RATE.
>> NOT NECESSARILY THE NO-NEW-REVENUE RATE, BUT I WANTED TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS THAT DOES LOWER OUR TAX RATE.
I NOTICED, BRIAN AND MIKE, YOU HAVE A WHOLE SECTION DEVOTED TO THE NO-NEW-REVENUE RATE.
>> WE CAN OPEN THOSE DISCUSSIONS UP.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FROM WHAT JOHN BROUGHT UP [NOISE] LAST YEAR AND WHAT MARIE DID THAT WE REALLY LOOK INTO THAT VERY CLOSELY.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SIT DOWN.
BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, AND I'M NOT AGAINST ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, BUT THESE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS ARE GOING TO BE SO IMPORTANT.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE WHAT OUR AGENDA WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE MEETINGS.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE BEST FAITH EFFORT TO PROVIDE THE SAME INFORMATION ON COUNCIL.
>> IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST THAT YOU WANT [NOISE] DISCUSSED, LET US KNOW BEFORE SO WE CAN ADD IT TO EVERYBODY'S LIST TO DISCUSS.
>> RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> ON PAGE 2 OF THE SCHEDULING, I WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW KEY DATES.
AS WE SAID, WE'D LIKE COME BACK IN JUNE ON THE 23RD, HAVE BALANCE SHEET, GENERAL FUND BUDGET, AND ADDRESS ALL THESE ISSUES.
BUT THERE'S REALLY TWO UNKNOWNS AT THAT POINT.
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WHEREAS THE JULY 15TH IS WHEN THE CPI IS GOING TO BE RELEASED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR STATISTICS.THAT'S WHERE OUR POLICE PAY INCREASE WILL COME FROM IS THAT CPI NUMBER, AS OF JUNE.
THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL WON'T COME UNTIL MONDAY, JULY 25TH, BUT I'VE ALREADY BEGUN MY MONITORING OF IT.
REALLY IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF HOW FAR WE'RE GOING TO DROP THE TAX RATE.
FROM THAT POINT FORWARD THEN, JULY 28TH IS THE DATE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SAY THAT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE FAIRLY ROUTINE, NOT EXTENSIVE.
FOR EXTENSIVE, WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THEM SOONER.
WOULD BE DISCUSSED AND FINALIZED AT THAT POINT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BRING BACK A PROPOSED BUDGET ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST THE 10TH.
>> I KNOW. THEN THAT'S TO MY POINT.
THERE REALLY ISN'T DISCUSSION TIME IN THERE BETWEEN THE 23RD AND THAT 28TH.
MAYBE WE WANT TO ADD ONE MEETING BECAUSE THERE ARE DATES BUT THAT JUST RELEASE THIS, RELEASE OF THAT.
TO ME WE WOULD HAVE ONE MORE WORKSHOP IN THERE THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
>> IT WOULD BE GOOD IF IT WAS BEFORE JULY 28.
WHAT IS IT WE WANT TO DISCUSS?
>> WELL, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CRITICAL ITEMS.
>> NO. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WHY.
>> HE WOULD LIKE US TO GO TO A PRINTED BUDGET.
>> A PROPOSE BUDGET. BUT HE'S SAYING ANY MAJOR CHANGES YOU'D LIKE TO SEE BEFORE JULY 28TH, ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID MATE?
>> RIGHT. OUR MEETING BEFORE THAT IS JUNE 23RD.
>> ARE THERE OTHER MAJOR CHANGES THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IN MIND?
>> I HAVE THINGS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT, BUT I'M FURTHER GOING TO BE REVEALING THE BUDGET BEFORE MY MEETING, AND I JUST THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A COLLECTIVE DISCUSSION TOGETHER WITH ALL THE COUNCIL PEOPLE ON ITEMS WE MAY HAVE VERSUS HAVING THEM ON THE 28TH, WHICH IS THE DAY HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT, TO GO TO PRINT THAT BUDGET.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ATTEND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ATTEND AS LONG AS WE HAVE QUORUM.
WHEN WILL YOU HAVE A FIRST DRAFT OF THIS BUDGET?
>> WE'LL HAVE THAT PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE] IN DETAIL, [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS A TOP DOWN PROCESS.
WE HAVE TOTALS. I'LL BE WRITING THE SECTION FOR THE BOOK THAT TALKS ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES ALL ALONG WAY.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE LIKE THAT.
IT'S NOT LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE THE WHOLE BOOK.
>> YEAH. I GUESS SOME ASSUMPTIONS COULD BE MADE MUCH SOONER THAN THE JULY 20TH MEETING.
>> WELL AT A MINIMUM, WE'RE ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE THE POLICE OFFICERS AN 8.5 PERCENT INCREASE.
THAT FIRE IS GOING TO HAVE A TWO PERCENT INCREASE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF THAT JULY 15TH. RIGHT?
>> WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WILL DO ON JULY 15TH WITH THOSE.
BUT BEFORE JULY 15TH, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT THERE'S A TWO AND A EIGHT PERCENT INCREASE.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE CHANGES AND STACK THEM UP ONE AFTER THE OTHER.
I DO BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN IRELAND TRANSIT FOR THE LOCAL MATCHING FUNDS.
THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE IS IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE EXTRAORDINARY INCREASES IN SALES TAX REVENUE.
I REALLY DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT COME TO AN END IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, OR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE INCREASE.
THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE THAT THE LIBRARY INCREASE THAT WE GOT THIS LAST YEAR REALLY JUST OFFSET COMMUNITY GARDENS AS A REVENUE SOURCE.
COMMUNITY GARDENS WAS PAYING THIS THREE AND $400,000 FOR YEARS.
>> I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE REINVENTING THE WHEEL HERE EVERY YEAR.
WHAT NEW MAJOR ITEMS ARE LIKELY TO BE ADDED TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT AREN'T IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET?
>> THE BIG HITS ARE GOING TO BE THE POLICE IN FRONT.
>> NOT DOLLAR AMOUNTS, ITEMS THAT ARE IN THAT BUDGET.
IS THERE ANY NEW PROGRAMS, GOTTEN A NEW DEPARTMENTS? NO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE ARE EXISTING DEPARTMENTS THAT CHANGES COULD HAVE BEEN MADE IN.
>> IT COULD. I'D BE INTERESTED, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST YEAR.
YET NOBODY CAME TO THE TABLE WITH ANY CONCRETE SUGGESTIONS FOR MAJOR CUTS TO THE BUDGET.
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NOBODY WENT TO THE BUDGET AND SAID, HERE'S A DEPARTMENT WE DON'T NEED.HERE'S A MAJOR FUNDED ITEM THAT WE DON'T NEED.
WE CAN ELIMINATE OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.
WE COULD ELIMINATE TRANSPORTATION.
NOBODY CAME TO THE TABLE WITH THOSE.
EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING THERE OUGHT TO BE SOMEPLACE WE CAN FIND MONEY, EITHER FIND NEW REVENUE, OR CUT COSTS.
NOBODY SAID THAT LAST YEAR WHERE THAT WOULD BE.
>> SURE WE DID. IT WASN'T MAJOR ITEMS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S NOT A MAJOR ITEM, [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S WHERE MONEY FROM.
>> WHERE WOULD YOU HAVE TAKEN?
>> WE HAD THREE OR FOUR ITEMS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
>> LIKE WHAT? REMEMBER WHAT DEPARTMENTS?
>> I THINK WE CUT THAT. DIDN'T WE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, WE DIDN'T CUT ANYTHING.
>> ALRIGHT, SO THE POINT HERE IS TO FIND A MILLION DOLLARS SO WE CAN REDUCE THE BENCHMARK AND KEEP REDUCING THE BENCHMARK BELOW THE 3.5 PERCENT CUT.
>> LAST YEAR WE GOT PRESENTED A BUDGET, WHICH WAS THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED.
WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO IT AT ALL.
>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE APPROVED THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.
WE FELT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT BUDGET BECAUSE WE WERE SO LATE IN THE GAME.
I LIKE THIS. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT JOB.
I THINK YOU ALL TOOK WHAT WE SENT TO YOU LAST YEAR AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES HERE.
>> I THINK ONE MORE WORKSHOPS WOULD GIVE US MORE [OVERLAPPING].
>> MY QUESTION WAS WHEN WILL WE KNOW THAT, AND WHAT REALLY AFFECTS THAT IS OUR TAX RATE IN THOSE NUMBERS.
WE DON'T REALLY START TALKING ABOUT THE TAX RATE UNTIL DOWN HERE.
>> MY SUGGESTION IS THAT GIVEN THE TIMELINE, AND A LOT OF OUR TIMELINE IS NOT DRIVEN BY US, IT'S DRIVEN BY STATE DEADLINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THE WAY I WOULD SUGGEST THIS IS LET'S HAVE OUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS.
WE'LL GATHER AGAIN IN JUNE AND RECAP AND GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AGAIN WITH OUR NORMAL UPDATE.
BUT BEFORE THE JULY MEETING, IF IT'S FELT AFTER WE'VE ALL HAD OUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS, AND IF THERE'S STILL MORE DISCUSSION THAT WANTS TO BE HEARD, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD A SPECIAL MEETING.
>> I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT.
>> JUST TO ADD ONE MORE THING AND I WILL SHUT UP.
IT'S MORE OF A PHILOSOPHY THAN THE ACTUAL BUDGET.
DO WE WANT TO KEEP INCREASING OUR TAX RATE TO THE THREE-AND-A-HALF PERCENT EVERY YEAR? I MEAN, IF WE THINK THAT IS GOOD POLICY BECAUSE ONCE WE REDUCE IT WE CAN'T GO BACK TO IT, THAT'S MORE OF A DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
A MILLION DOLLARS IS A MILLION DOLLARS WITHIN THIS BUDGET, ITS NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT IT IS, DO YOU WANT TO KEEP INCREASING YOUR TAXES ON YOUR CITIZENS 3.5% EVERY YEAR FROM HERE ON OUT?
>> IT'S EASY TO SAY NO, BUT YOU GOT TO FIND SOME PLACE TO TAKE IT OUT.
>> [BACKGROUND] REAL QUICK, THAT'S PEOPLE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN PICK UP IT REALLY EASILY.
THE BIG QUESTION IS THAT YOU CAN'T GET BACK AND IF THAT IS THE REAL GIST OF THIS WHOLE THING, YOU CANNOT GET IT BACK, THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE POSITION THAT WE'VE BEEN PUT IN.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH JOHN AND I WANT TO COMMEND BRIAN BECAUSE THIS BUDGET SCHEDULE WAS PUT TOGETHER IN RESPONSE JOHN TO YOUR COMMENTS LAST TIME WE WENT INTO THE BUDGET IN MARIE'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT TO THIS THING EARLY.
I TALKED WITH BRIAN BEFORE THIS CAME OUT AND WE HAD A PRETTY LIVELY DISCUSSION AND I TOLD HIM, I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE END HERE, AND THEN EVERYBODY SAYING WE WANT TO CUT SOMETHING AND WE'RE TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD.
I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
I WANTED TO GET ON IT VERY QUICKLY AND BRIAN CAME UP WITH THIS RESPONSE, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
I'M ALL FOR WAITING TO DETERMINE THAT PERSONALLY TILL AFTER THE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE, BUT I THINK THE WAY WE'RE OUTLINED HERE WILL GIVE US THE CHANCE TO GIVE OUR INPUT AND TO SEE WHAT WE CAN POSSIBLY CUT OUT OF THIS BUDGET IF THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
I'M CONCERNED MORE ABOUT THE BENCHMARK GOING FORWARD THAN I AM ANYTHING ELSE.
CURRENTLY, WITH OUR DEMANDS WITH POLICE AND FIRE IN OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, OUR HANDS ARE SOMEWHAT TIED RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH EXTRA.>> I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE PAINTED AS A BAD THING. I REALLY DON'T.
>> THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT I THINK BECAUSE WE'RE ONE OF THE WAY THE CPI WORKS, IS THAT WHEN WE GO INTO BARGAINING NEXT YEAR AND WE DO OUR BENCHMARKS FOR THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A LOT BETTER POSITION.
IT'S A PAY ME NOW, PAY ME LATER.
OUR OFFICE NEEDS BE PAID TO MARKET IF THIS GETS INTO MARKETING, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT THING.
>> THERE'S A STRUGGLE UNDERLYING I THINK ASSUMPTION TO NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING, THAT THE ONLY WAY TO LIGHT AND THE TAX LOAD ON PEOPLE IS THROUGH THE RATE, AND THIS MAY BE THE WAY TO TALK JUST A BIT ABOUT THE EXEMPTION PROPOSAL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SHEET, EVERY JUNE WE BRING YOU [NOISE] A RECOMMENDATION, THAT I'VE BEEN HERE THERE'S BEEN TO RECONFIRM FOR THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTORS BENEFIT WHEN SHE COLLECTS TO APPLY THE TAX EXEMPTIONS.
ON THIS PAGE, THEY ALL HAVE TO DO WITH PROPERTY OWNERS OCCUPYING THEIR OWN HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES.
I BELIEVE WE'VE IDENTIFIED A MEANS THAT'S AN ATTRACTIVE MEANS OF LIGHTENING THE LOAD ON THAT GROUP OF TAXPAYERS.
NOW, IT CAN BE REVENUE NEUTRAL, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A SECOND, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT SINCE YOU GOT TO DROP YOUR TAX RATE ANYWAY YOU MIGHT DROP THE TAX RATE BY LESS AND BASICALLY SHIFT OR TARGET MORE OF THE TAX RATE CUT, IF YOU WILL, TO THE FORM OF A TAX REVENUE CUT FOR HOMESTEAD PROPERTY OWNERS.
THERE'S 9,786 OF THEM IN THE CURRENT YEAR TAX RULE.
ABOUT HALF OF THEM GET THE OVER 65 AND THE DISABLED EXEMPTION, WHICH ALSO COULD BE ADJUSTED, BUT IT HAS LESS IMPACT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY FROZEN.
IT WOULD AFFECT NEW PEOPLE IN THOSE CATEGORIES AS THEY QUALIFY.
>> THANK YOU. YOU CAN BE OVER 65 AND DISABLED AND YOU GET MORE OF AN EXCEPTION.
ISN'T THAT FLAT BOARD, LIKE YOU'RE EITHER DISABLED OR YOU'RE OVER 65.
I GOT BRING HOME FOR 65% DOESN'T QUALITY.
BUT I MEAN [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> WHEN YOU GET TO THE POINT THAT YOUR FREEZER MAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE SET THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT, SIMPLY COULD BE MORE.
SO YOUR FREEZE POINT IS SOMEWHAT LOWER, BUT THE NUMBERS I'VE DONE ON THE SECOND PAGE ARE ORIENTED TOWARDS RAISING THE MINIMUM FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION SIGNIFICANTLY.
RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT A $5,000 MINIMUM EXEMPTION AMOUNT, WHICH MEANS YOUR HOUSE HAS TO BE BELOW $25,000 ASSESS VALUE FOR THAT TO HELP.
WE HAVE 12 PROPERTIES THAT BENEFIT PETS AND DOG HEALTH.
>> THAT'S JUST AN INTERESTING LINE THOUGH.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES THAT AFFECT? TWELVE PEOPLE AS WELL.
>> I GOT LAST YEAR'S, WELL THIS YEAR'S TAX ROLL ARE 12.
FY 22 TAX YEAR 21 TAX ROLL THAT THESE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN BASED ON.
WE CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE IMPACT FOR NEXT YEAR IS BECAUSE THEY COMPEL US TO RENEW OR CHANGE THESE EXEMPTIONS GIVEN THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US PRIOR TO JUNE 30TH, AND THEN THEY PUT THAT INTO THE WHOLE TAX ADMINISTRATION EXERCISE WHERE THEY CERTIFY THE ROAD TO US ONE DAY.
THE LEVEL THAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST FOR A STARTING POINT THAT WE CONSIDER WOULD BE THE $40,000 MINIMUM EXEMPTION AMOUNT THAT AFFECT 4,700 PEOPLE WHICH IS ABOUT HALF OF OUR HOMESTEAD OWNERSHIP TAX BASE.
FACTORING IN THE EFFECTIVENESS [NOISE] OF A FREEZE WHICH IS MEASURED IN THE BOTTOM SECTION OF THIS CHART, WE STILL BENEFIT THOSE 4,700 HOMEOWNERS TO THE TUNE OF $152,000.
>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE ONLY HAVE 9,400 HOMES THAT HAVE PROPERTIES ON THE ENTIRE ISLAND.
>> YES. OUT OF 22,000 SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTY.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IN THE EXCEPTION OF [INAUDIBLE]
>> NINE THOUSAND AND SEVENTY SIX? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I SUSPECT THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO DROP EVERY YEAR.
>> MIKE, IS THIS GOING TO COME BACK SIX MONTHS?
>> DESPERATELY TRYING TO KEEP THE TAX AGENDA ITEM.
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>> THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO REVIEW IT.
WE'VE NEVER REVIEWED LIKE THIS BEFORE, AND FRANKLY THIS IS A WAY TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD ON A TARGETED GROUP COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE THINK PERHAPS EVEN AN ATTRACTIVE WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT DOING ANYBODY MUCH GOOD NOW.
>> ALSO, YOU OFTEN HEAR THAT YOU'RE PRICING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES, THIS ADDRESSES THAT.
THIS IS THE GROUP THAT'S GETTING PRICED OUT OF IT.
>> IF THERE'S SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS AND THE LOWER THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE THE GREATER THE IMPACT.
>> THOSE AVERAGES ARE JUST AT THEIR AVERAGES.
THE PEOPLE AT THE LOWER END GET MORE BENEFITS.
IF YOU HAVE A $100,000 HOME, THEN ADDING $40,000 TO THE MINIMUM EXEMPT AMOUNT GIVES YOU A $40,000 EXEMPTION INSTEAD OF A $20,000 EXEMPTION AND APPLY THE TAX RATE TO THAT.
USE YOUR IMAGINATION WHAT THE TERMS ARE.
>> IN THE IMPACT MICHAEL THAT OPTION THREE THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING IS 2.7 MILLION.
>> TO INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD BY 2.7 MILLION, THE TOTAL REVENUE IMPACT BY $2.7 MILLION.
>> REVENUE IMPACT ON THAT IS $292,000, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE SO MANY OF THESE PEOPLE, THEIR TAX PAYMENT IS FROZEN, YOU LOSE ABOUT HALF OF THAT TO THE FREEZE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] SO THE NET REVENUE LOSS, 139,000 THAT WILL BE THE LOSS TO-
>> $152 THOUSAND WOULD BE THE LOSS WILL BE GETTING THERE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] INCREASE MINIMUM EXEMPTION WOULD BE A $152,000.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT ON THE AGENDA ITEM OF THE BUDGET SCHEDULE? [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK IS A NICE WAY OF SAYING WE'RE.
>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DIGEST THIS AND HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS AT YOUR INDIVIDUAL BUDGET MEETING WITH MR. LAWSON.
>> SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU GOD.
GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTION [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL, I KNEW YOU INSERT YOUR WAY TO THE TABLES WERE SERIOUS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MIKE ON THE BUDGET SCHEDULE. THANK YOU.
WE'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS ON SCHEDULING OUR MEETINGS HERE.
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[3.E. Discussion Of Residential Parking Policies (Shuster/Brown - 15 Min) 3.F. Council Updates (Brown - 20 Min)]
>> THREE E, DISCUSSION OF RESIDENTIAL PARKING POLICIES.
>> AT OUR LAST MEETING, COUNCIL, YOU MAY REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT OUR RESIDENTIAL PARKING POLICY, WHICH WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ONE FOR STRUCTURE ON DETERMINING WHAT AREAS RECEIVE RESIDENTIAL PARKING AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNING IF YOU WANT TO MOVE OUT OF RESIDENTIAL PARKING.
COUNCILMEMBER SCHUSTER HAD BROUGHT THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. WILLIAM.
>> THAT'S HOW I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS IT.
IT WAS TRYING TO FIND A MORE FORMAL PROCESS TO APPLY FOR RESIDENTIAL PARKING OR REMOVAL OF RESIDENTIAL PARKING BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE TWO FAUCETS TO DO IT, IN MY OPINION, THROUGH LIKE WE DID LAST MONTH, AND THEN I HEAR ABOUT A 75 PERCENT.
YOU CAN TURN NEIGHBORS TO PETITION 75 PERCENT, THEN BRING IT BACK.
BUT MY QUESTION IS CAN I CREATE SOME AMBIGUOUS AREAS AROUND TOWN BECAUSE THE SEAWALL PARKING LOT, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD ONE JUST BECAUSE IT CONTINUED THE MAP.
BUT JUST THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS I'VE HAD PEOPLE ASK IN MY DISTRICT FOR [INAUDIBLE] ANOTHER AREA [OVERLAPPING]
>> A LOT OF THAT COMES TO WHAT IS THE REASONING BEHIND [INAUDIBLE]? IS IT BECAUSE OF TOURISM PARKING?
THEY'LL SAY MAYBE SCHOOL, I MEAN, OVER BY AUSTIN ISSUES.
BUT OBVIOUS HAD TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ASK ME ON JUST RANDOM SPOTS IN THE DISTRICT SO IT DOESN'T FIT ANY OF THE MAPS WE HAVE SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR THAT PERSON WHO WOULD LIKE IT?
>> YEAH. I MEAN WE TEND TO TRY TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS AND DO IT WHERE IT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE A HARD AND FAST RULE THAT EVERY RESIDENT MUST APPROVE IT OR 75 PERCENT OR ANYTHING ELSE.
WE TRY TO GET THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT AS WE FOUND OUT, EVEN WITH THE LAST CHANGE, PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY.
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IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT WAY.>> I'M NOT SURE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, BY SOME MAYBE YOU MEAN ONE.
IT WASN'T A GROUNDSWELL TO DO IT AND IT WASN'T A GROUNDSWELL AGAINST IT.
BUT I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD PEOPLE 75 PERCENT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CASE, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE TO MEET THAT 75 PERCENT.
[OVERLAPPING] THINGS ARE ZONING CHANGE, THAT KIND OF THING AND IT GETS A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX AND THAT IT'S NOT JUST 75 PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS, IT'S 75 PERCENT OF THE HOMESTEAD OR OWNER-OCCUPIED RESIDENTS HAVE TO VOTE FOR.
WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL PARKING, BUT WE NEED TO BE PRETTY PRECISE ABOUT WHAT RULES WE'RE [OVERLAPPING]
>> RIGHT NOW THE OWNERS FOR THE ZONING IS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO IT AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
I DON'T THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE OUT THERE SOLICITING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I THINK IF THE RESIDENTS WANT TO DO THIS, THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO.
WHATEVER COUNCIL DECIDES THIS POLICY TO COME UP WITH THERE'S NUMBER OF SIGNATURES, AND WE GO FORWARD WITH IT.
>> IT IS INTRIGUING NOW AND I OFTEN FIND IT FRUSTRATING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PARKING SUCH AS WITH THE SEAWALLS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PARKING NEAR WILL PROTECT THE STREETS.
BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TO MY DISTRICT THERE'S NONE.
>> WELL, NO, BUT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE MARIE.
YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE REMEMBER THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE ASKED TO HAVE THEIR BEACHES CLOSED TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
WITH THAT COMES A HIGHER LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE BEACH ACCORDING TO THE GEO.
BUT IF YOU HAVE LET'S SAY SIX RENTAL HOUSES ON A BLOCK AND ALL THE PEOPLE PARKING THERE ARE PUBLIC, THEY'RE NOT RESIDENTS, WHY DON'T THOSE SPOTS COUNT? I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE IS.
>> I WOULD HAPPILY COUNT THEM, BUT I'M NOT THE GUY THAT GETS TO DECIDE WHO DOES THAT.
>> BACK TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING ISSUE.
I JUST WANT CARS TO BE 20 FEET LONG, MARIE.
>> ME TOO. WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES OF PLACE TO GET THAT DONE.
>> I WAS ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE SEAWALL PARKING RESIDENTIAL PARKING.
THE CITY ESTABLISHED THAT THERE WASN'T ANY REALLY INPUT A LOT.
>> NO, THAT WAS PART OF THAT OLD SEAWALL PLAN.
>> YEAH. THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
SINCE THAT TIME WHEN I WAS IN DISTRICT TWO, WE'VE HAD CHANGES TO RESIDENTIAL PARKING AND EACH TIME IT FOLLOWS A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.
AT ONE POINT MICHAEL GRAY WHEN HE WAS HERE, HE TOLD ME HE HAD HAVE 100 PERCENT OF ALL THE PEOPLE TO SIGN ON TO THIS AND THERE'S BLOCKS THAT DID NOT DO IT BECAUSE THEY ONLY GOT 95 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE SIGNING ON.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND CODIFY IT.
>> HONESTLY, THERE'S AREAS THAT WE PUT INTO THE SEAWALL PARKING PLAN WITH RESIDENTIAL PARKING, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED IT.
WE DON'T HAVE A NEW OVERFLOW INTO THOSE AREAS.
WE TOOK THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THAT.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO OPT OUT.
>> WELL, AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
>> THERE'S NOT A FORMAL PROCESS TO OPT OUT?
>> ONCE YOU GET THERE, YOU'RE TRAPPED.
>> YOU ARE TRAPPED. [LAUGHTER]
>> I DON'T WANT TO DISREGARD WHAT MAUREEN JUST SAID THOUGH ABOUT THE WEST END.
I MEAN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT AFFECTS ALL OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE WEST END BUT I KNOW IT SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTS A LOT OF THE [OVERLAPPING] YOU GO OUT THERE, TRY IT THIS WEEKEND, IT'S HARD DRIVING DOWN ANY STREET.
>> IT'S HARD TO GET A FIRE TRUCK THROUGH.
>> I DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY, WELL AS THE WEST END, BUT WHY ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THAT? I MEAN THAT SEEMS TO BE [INAUDIBLE]
>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS EVERY TIME WE CLOSE A BEACH THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE PARKING SPOT FOR EVERY 50 FEET OF LINEAR BEACH IN FRONT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO SPREAD THAT OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN SO AS NOT TO IMPACT TRAFFIC AND ALL THOSE THINGS WE WORKED WITH [INAUDIBLE] ON THAT.
WE'VE REALIGNED ALL THOSE PARKING SPOTS FOR BEACH ACCESS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY ARE LONG SKINNY NEIGHBORHOODS.
BASICALLY FOR EVERY 15 FEET OF A BEACH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT MANY PARKING SPOTS ON SOME OF THEM THAT ARE JUST A LONG STREET.
>> BUT IT GOES BEYOND THAT AND IT GOES BACK TO A BAD PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2004,
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THAT THE SPOTS THAT WERE DESIGNATED DON'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE OR NEVER EXISTED.[OVERLAPPING] FORTUNATELY, I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING DONE WITH IT.
BUT IT IS INTRIGUING THAT A RENTAL PROPERTY THAT HAS SIX CARS, THAT THEY DON'T COUNT AS PUBLIC PARKING BECAUSE IT IS THE PUBLIC PARKING TO GO TO THE BEACH.
>> MY BIGGEST THOUGHTS ON IT OR JUST MOVING FORWARD, LOOK AT THE MAPS LIKE JUST WHAT AREAS OF TOWN WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL PARKING, I GUESS SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
THEN THE TWO OTHER THINGS AFTER THAT IS JUST HOW TO GET IT FORMALLY THAN HOW TO REMOVE IT FORMALLY.
JUST LITERAL IS REALLY THE BEST WAY TO GET THERE.
THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO TO OPT-IN OPT-OUT POLICY.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PRIMARILY AS A RESULT OF UTMB, PRIMARILY AS A RESULT OF THE BEACH.
WE HAVE OTHER LITTLE SPORADIC USES, BUT THOSE ARE THE BIG, BIG HITS.
>> CAN I THROW THIS IN HERE TOO? THAT WE HAVE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE PROBLEMS. WEDNESDAYS, DISTRICT SIX DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE.
SATURDAYS. YEAH, THAT MAY BE TRUE.
A NORMAL SATURDAY DISTRICT THREE DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE RESPONDING TO UTMB PARKING.
YOUR RESPONSE IS MORE THE BEACH PARKING.
A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL SIGNS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD SAY MONDAY TO FRIDAY SO THE THE RESTRICTIONS DON'T EVEN APPLY. SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
>> COULD THAT BE THE WAY AROUND THE BEACH EXCEPT FOR SATURDAY? [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT EARLY MONDAY THROUGH [NOISE] FRIDAY.
>> THEN THERE'S NOTHING ON THE WEEKENDS.
>> SOME OF THE AREAS ARE TWO HOUR PARKING ON RESIDENTIAL PERMITS OR SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING].
>> OUR PARKING RESIDENTIAL PERMIT'S IS ACCEPTED.
>> BUT THAT SOMETIMES IT'S 8:00 - 6:00 SOMETIMES IT'S 9:00 - 5:00 SOMETIMES IT'S MONDAY TO FRIDAY.
>> LIKE THE ONE BY THAT GOVENORS BECAUSE I HAD TO PARK THERE YESTERDAY.
>> WHICH IS TWO HOURS RESIDENTIAL PARKING.
>> LET ME ASK THIS, WILLIAM WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO WORK WITH STEPH?
>> YEAH. I WAS OUTSIDE [INAUDIBLE] WE DID GOOD TOGETHER AND ALL THAT STORY, SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO GET IT FROM THE DISTRICT.
>> THEN BRING BACK TO COUNCIL SOME THOUGHTS SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS.
>> YEAH, WE'LL GET SOMEBODY FROM PLANNING AND SOMEBODY FROM THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND MOVE TO TOGETHER AND GET YOU ALL WORKING ABOUT IT.
STAFF WE'RE FINE WITH WHATEVER ANYBODY WANTS TO DO.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE DO IS FAIR AND ENFORCEABLE.
>> YOU'RE 100 PERCENT RIGHT ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU WAITING FOR DOING THAT. WE APPRECIATE.
BRIAN WE NEED TO ADDRESS OPT IN AND OPT OUT.
>> VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WILL SAY, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT A TIME LIMIT ON IT BECAUSE WE MADE OPT IN AND THEN SOMEBODY IS GOING TO NEXT WEEK WE CAN DO NEARBY WANTS TO OPT OUT.
I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST NOT HAVE TO DO THIS EXCEPT MAYBE EVERY 45 DAYS OR 60 DAYS [LAUGHTER] JUST GIVE ME A BREAK BECAUSE AS TO YOUR SIGNS [LAUGHTER] VERY EXPENSIVE [LAUGHTER]
>> WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM ON A FLAT BED AND JUST DRIVE THEIR SIDES RANGE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[3.F. Council Updates (Brown - 20 Min)]
JANELLE LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3F PLEASE.ONE, THIS CONTINUANCE OF ZOOM FOR CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP IN REGULAR MEETINGS.
>> COUNCIL THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY TALKING WITH JANELLE, JANELLE YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON THIS.
>> SURE. SO I'VE BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON THE ZOOM ATTENDANCE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND WE'RE REALLY DOWN TO ZERO PARTICIPATION [LAUGHTER] ONE PERSON ON THE LINE.
MY THOUGHT WAS, THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO GO AHEAD AND DISCONTINUE WITH THE ZOOM PORTION OF THE MEETING, IF WE CAN STILL PROVIDE THE RESIDENTS CITIZENS WITH THE INFORMATION OF HOW THEY CAN ATTEND THE MEETING EITHER IF THEY HAVE CABLE, THEY CAN WATCH IT ON CHANNEL 16, IT'S ON FACEBOOK LIVE, IT'S ON THE INTERNET AND THEN OF COURSE THEY CAN COME IN PERSON NOW.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GET COUNCILS THOUGHTS ON THAT.
>> I INSTRUCTED JANELLE TO GO AHEAD AND DO ZOOM FOR TODAY'S MEETING, PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST CONTINUE THE ZOOM MEETINGS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD BUT IT'S UP TO COUNCIL. YES, MA'AM.
>> OUR ZOOM ATTENDANCE SEEMS TO BE DRIVEN BY MY TOPIC AND I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY A PAIN FOR YOU BUT I MEAN,
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DOES IT RUN US THAT MUCH ABOUT MONEY TO HAVE A ZOOM OPTION?>> IT'S NOT THE MONEY PART, IT'S THE TECHNICAL PART.
>> I MEAN, TO ME I THINK THE HYBRID BD IN-PERSON AND ZOOM IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON AND I'M GLAD ABOUT THAT FOR MEETINGS I USED TO DRIVE AN HOUR AND A HALF FOR AN HOUR MEETING AND AN HOUR AND A HALF BACK BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE WHERE WE SEE THE VARIANCE, WHETHER IT WAS A HOT TOPIC, YOU HAD 15 OR 20 OR 30 PEOPLE ON ZOOM AND THERE ARE CONCERNS AGAIN ABOUT THE NEW COVID, WHATNOT OUT THERE AND THE INCREASES SO TO ME, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT GO ON FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE MONTHS AND JUDGE IT.
>> WE'RE CONTINUING THE ZOOM MEETINGS FOR THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> BUT THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.
>> WELL, [LAUGHTER] IT IS AND WE'VE HAD HOT TOPICS HERE WITH OUR MEETINGS HERE AND THE ZOOM ATTENDANCE IS JUST VERY FEW PEOPLE WON'T COME ON ZOOM.
>> I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN BUT WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE A DOZEN PEOPLE ON ZOOM, HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE IN THE ROOM WITH US?
>> SHE SAID ACTUALLY ZERO PEOPLE.
>> HERE'S THE THING, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO START IT BACK UP IF WE WANTED TO.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE THROUGH WITH ANOTHER MATTER.
>> IN INDIVIDUAL FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU STILL HAVE THE OPTION OF BEING ABLE TO TELECOMMUTE IF WITH PROPER NOTICE AND THAT'S WHAT [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, WHAT IF WE JUST KEPT IT GOING FOR THE BUDGET? I MEAN, SINCE THAT.
>> I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, SO IT'S EASY FOR ME [LAUGHTER].
>> WAS THERE ANYBODY ON ZOOM THIS MORNING?
>> I WOULD SAY IN THE LAST HOT TOPIC WE HAD, WE HAD PEOPLE IN PERSON.
WE DID HAVE A FEW PEOPLE ON ZOOM BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT SO THEY COULD WATCH IT ON THE INTERNET IF THEY WANT TO.
WE'RE NOT HAVING PEOPLE INTERACT WITH COUNCIL ON ZOOM ANYMORE. THERE ARE WAYS TO WATCH IT.
>> CAN THE PUBLIC STILL SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> THAT WAS SOMETHING WE DID THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
>> CAN WE GET BACK TO BREEDING THEM INTO RECORD FIRST AND SUMMARIZING THEM.
>> THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN READING THEM IN RECORD BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO FEW OF THEM.
>> YEAH, TWO WILL BE READING THEM.
>> I HAVE ANOTHER ONE LAST QUESTION.
>> IT'S ALSO STREAMED ON THE INTERNET, ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
>> YOU CAN GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE [NOISE]
>>YOU CAN WATCH IT ON CITY WEBSITE, YOU CAN WATCH IT ON THE PHONE, ON FACEBOOK LIVE AND CHANNEL 16 ON CABLE.
>> BUT I DO AGREE WITH MAYBE EXTENDING IT WITHOUT JUST DROPPING, COUPLE OF MONTHS.
>> EXTENDING THE WATCH HERE AND ZOOM.
>> ZOOM, I AGREE WITH EXTENDING THE ZOOM MORE.
>> BUT THROUGH BUDGET OR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, I WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST DROP IT.
IF YOU TALK ABOUT A SUBJECT THAT NOBODY'S GOING TO LISTEN TO THIS PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE] I'LL TELL YOU THAT [LAUGHTER] IT'S A BORING SUBJECT.
>> WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT DATE ON IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> LET'S PUT A DATE ON IT TO JUST CONTINUE BEING.
>> WHAT ABOUT THROUGH THEN DOES WITHIN FISCAL YEAR, THIRD YEAR SEPTEMBER 30TH
>> I JUST THINK IT'S INSTRUCTIVE, THERE'S NOBODY ON.
>> YEAH. NOBODY IS PARTICIPATING.
>> UNTIL THERE'S A HOT TOPIC, RIGHT?
>> WELL, PEOPLE LIKE THE BUDGET WHEN THEY WANT SOME MONEY.
>> TYPICALLY, THOSE ARE THE FOLKS WHO ONLY SHOW UP IN PERSON [LAUGHTER]
>> WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET ALSO AND NOBODY COMES UP TO COMMENT.
>> WELL, BUT YOU'RE COMING IN AND YOU'RE TALKING TO LIVE WHERE PEOPLE TEND TO TRAVEL AND THEY MIGHT HAVE NO OPTION BUT TO ATTEND BY ZOOM.
WE'RE DECIDING AT THIS MEETING PROBLEM, IT'S DONE.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.
>> THAT'S WHY PUT A DATE ON IT.
>> YEAH, PUT A DATE ON IT. WHAT DATE? 60 DAYS?
>> I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THIS COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
LET'S CONTINUE UNTIL WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR JULY MEETING
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AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL FINALIZE OUR JULY CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE FINALIZED PROJECT.>> IT GIVES YOU 60 DAYS OF ZOOMING.
>> THEN WE CAN REVISIT IT, WE WON'T STOP AND WE'LL REVISIT THE TOPIC.
JANELLE, TELL US HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE FASCINATED WITH OUR BUDGET WILL BE ON ZOOM.
>> SO IN JULY, IT WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA TO JUST CONTINUE
>> TO DISCUSS IT AND WE CAN MAKE IT AN ACTION ITEM IF YOU WANT TO.
>> LET'S MAKE IT AN ACTION ITEM.
>> LET'S MAKE IT AN ACTION ITEM JANELLE IN OUR JULY MEETING WILL CONTINUE WITH ZOOM UNTIL THAT TIME.
>> THANK YOU. COMMITTEE BOARDS' COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.
BEFORE YOU IS OUR, [NOISE] SCHEDULE FOR THIS.
JANELLE SENT OUT TO YOU, THE SCHEDULE FOR THE PARK BOARDS, INTERVIEWS, APPLICATION DEADLINE AND FOR THE SELECTION.
WE HAVE THAT THAT'S BEEN SENT OUT TO N-W-A-C-P, IT'S BEEN SENT TO LULAC AND IT'S BEEN A USUALLY STEPH MARISSA SENT OUT TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ON THAT.
TODAY WE HAVE THE MAYOR PRO TEM APPOINTMENT THAT'S ON OUR SCHEDULE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER ASPECTS OF OUR SCHEDULE AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON OUR APPOINTMENTS AND SO FORTH.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YES STEVE.
>> YOU HAVE APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR PARK BOARD AND PARK BOARD INTERVIEWS.
I DON'T SEE AN APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED IT YET BECAUSE IT'S STILL WITH [INAUDIBLE]
>> WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO OUR THE ARIZONA APPOINTMENTS, IS IT?
>> YES, SIR THAT IS ON THE EXTRA FOOT, LET ME SEE WHERE DO WE HAVE.
>> SEPTEMBER 15TH [OVERLAPPING].
>> OH, YEAH AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL BE MAKING ALL OF OUR OTHER COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS.
THAT'LL BE QUITE A FEW APPOINTMENTS ON THAT POINT.
>> I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO START TALKING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO FIND SOME NEW PEOPLE FOR THESE BOARDS BECAUSE WE JUST ARE ALWAYS SHORT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SERVE.
>> FOR SHORT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE A FUNDING
>> NOW, WE HAVE FOR PARKS WAS IN PLANNING, WE DID ONE BUT FOR SO MANY OF THE OTHER BOARDS, I ALWAYS HAVE TROUBLE FINDING ENOUGH PEOPLE.
>> SURELY. AND JANELLE IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY THAT WE CAN [NOISE] NOTIFY THE PUBLIC OF OUR UPCOMING APPOINTMENTS IN?
>> WE SENT IT TO N-W-A-C-P, LULAC, CAN WE SEND IT TO EACH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION?
>> MARISSA'S NEWS RELEASE IT GOES TO MOST OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS ALSO
>>DO WE HAVE IT UP ON FACEBOOK.
>> KIM BRIAN WEAR A SHIRT THAT SAYS [INAUDIBLE].
>> THEY'LL PROBABLY CONFLICT WITH THE SIZE BEFORE THEY [INAUDIBLE] HAVE THE SIGNS [LAUGHTER] [NOISE] [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO FROM THE THIRD TOPIC UNDER 3F, REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
THIS IS JUST A SHORT LITTLE REPORT FROM MICHELLE [INAUDIBLE], GIVE ME AN UPDATE OF THE RDA.
I GOT SOME GOOD THOUGHTS AND GOOD NOTES ON OTHER THINGS.
ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF INCOME, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AS YOU KNOW, I AM THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT ENTITIES, THE RDA, THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, AND GALVESTON PROPERTY AND FINDINGS AUTHORITY.
I WILL SEND YOU A PACKET, COUNCIL, TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON ALL OF THOSE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT COUNCIL HAD LAST YEAR, SO WE WILL GET YOU [OVERLAPPING] THERE.
BUT BASICALLY, WE'VE STREAMLINED THE SAME BOARD MEMBERS FOR ALL THREE OF THESE ENTITIES.
OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, THE GROUPS HAVE BEEN MEETING AND PRETTY MUCH JUST GOING OVER MISSION OBJECTIVES,
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BROAD DIRECTIVES THAT COUNCIL SET BACK IN AUGUST.>> ACTUALLY, THAT WAS DECIDED BEFORE THE LAST COUNCIL.
THAT WAS DECIDED BACK BEFORE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK AUGUST THE 21, I BELIEVE IS WHEN THE WAS [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE COMBINING OF THE RDA AND THE HOUSE AUTHORITY.
>> YES. THAT WAS QUITE A WHILE AGO.
>> CAN YOU SEND THAT PACKET TO
>> I WILL BE HAPPY TO. MOST OF THESE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE, GALVESTON PROPERTY FINANCE, THOSE COMPONENTS ENTITIES HAVE BEEN MORE GEARED TOWARDS HOUSING AS A PRIORITY WHERE THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY COULD BE MORE COMMERCIAL DRIVEN, INDUSTRIAL DRIVEN.
SO FAR WE'VE BEEN EDUCATING THE MEMBERS ON WHAT OTHER ENTITIES ARE OUT THERE DOING SOMETHING [NOISE] OR REDEVELOPMENT.
IT MAY BE BROUGHT IN SEVERAL CITIES GRANTS AND HOUSING DEPARTMENT WE BROUGHT IN THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE.
SMALLER, LARGE SIZE, HOME BUILDING SIZE, LOT SIZE, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, WE ALSO HEARD FROM VISION GALVESTON WITH THEIR BUILD GALVESTON INITIATIVE.
WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE GALVESTON HISTORICAL FOUNDATION WITH THEIR REVOLVING FUND AND THE RENOVATION THAT THEY ARE DOING ON SOME HISTORIC HOMES AND BUILDINGS, AND THEN WE HEARD FROM GALVESTON URBAN MINISTRIES AND WHAT THEIR MISSION IS AND WHAT THEIR VOLUNTEER EFFORTS WERE DOING AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE [INAUDIBLE] BASICALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT OTHER GAPS THAT NEED TO BE FILLED, WE DON'T WHAT TO PAY BENEFITS AND DUPLICATE EFFORTS, AND ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATIONS? THAT WAS THE GIST OF HAVING THOSE ENTITIES COME IN AND HAVE DISCUSSION, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY, IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TRUE PLAN OF WORK WILL BE MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL, SEE THAT MEETS THE OBJECTIVES.
>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR?
>> THAT IS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW HAPPY I AM THAT MICHELLE IS HERE.
COUNCIL, WE'RE COMING TOWARDS THE END OF THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE WE
[3.G. Report Of City Council's Park Board Representative (Collins/Brown - 10 Minutes)]
HAVE COUNCIL COMMITTEE COMING ON BOARD SO.>> [OVERLAPPING] AS THE CABOOSE [LAUGHTER]
>> HAPPY TO SAY THAT OUR PRINTS APART FOR MOST SPECIFICALLY EVENTS WHERE A PERSON CHERYL RITCHER, WHO HAS PERFORMED RESPECT.
IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE PAVILION IS FINISHED.
WHEN YOU DRIVE BY IT, THERE'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT.
THERE ARE STILL SOME LANDSCAPING GOING ON, BUT JUST SAYING IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED, THIS WEEKEND WILL BE OPENED FOR PARKING.
WHAT WE PROMISED WAS THAT WE [OVERLAPPING] BACK UP AND RUNNING BY MEMORIAL DAY.
>> HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW MUCH GRASS IS GROWN JUST IN THAT SHORT TIME THEY WERE DOING WORK OUT THERE?
>> THAT'S A GOOD STABILIZING FACTOR [OVERLAPPING] THAT WAS PROBABLY NOT PLANNED, BUT IT JUST HAPPENED.
>> WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PARK 3,000 CARS AS FOR BEACH THIS WEEKEND.
>> IT'S MEMORIAL DAY. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES NO ONE HAS DONE THE MOBILE AMENITIES.
IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK OUT TOWARD THE PAVILION SOUTH OF THE PAVILION, YOU CAN SEE THESE TWO STRUCTURES, THERE ARE SHADE STRUCTURES.
THEY'VE GOT A CENTER MASS OF SAND BAGS AND STABILIZES THEM AND THEIR SHADE STRUCTURES AND THEY HAVE GOOD CANOPIES ON THEM.
[NOISE] THEY ARE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE AND YOU CAN SEE A BROWN FENCE AND THAT'S THE ENCLOSURE FOR MOBILE [NOISE] THOSE WILL BE DELIVERED AND OPERATIONAL BEFORE JULY 4TH.
WE HOPE THEY'VE DONE SOME TESTING ON SOME OF THE ALUMINUM STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE BUILDING, AS WELL AS IN THE WINDOWS, I HOPE SO.
BUT THE UTILITIES ARE IN MOST OF THE FENCING IS UP. GOOD.
>> HOW MANY OF THOSE STRICTURES ARE WITHIN?
>> INITIALLY, THEY'VE BEEN TWO OF THEM, ACTUALLY THREE, ONE IS A VENDOR SPACE.
IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK, YOU CAN SEE THE WALKING SURFACE, THE PLATFORM IN FRONT OF US THERE, BUT THERE CAN BE TWO IDENTICAL REST ROOM SHOWERS, THOSE ARE BEING FASHION NOW TOO.
THEY'RE VERY COOL WE'VE SHOWN THOSE PICTURES.
THEY LOOK LIKE SURF BOARD STUCK IN THE SAND, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SHOWER HERE AND SHOWER DOWN.
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>> [OVERLAPPING] THE FOOD TRUCKS SITUATION IS.
>> [NOISE] WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS OUT THERE IMMEDIATELY, AS YOU KNOW.
WE'RE BEEN WAITING ON CITY TO DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO DEAL WITH FOOD TRUCKS AND THAT KIND OF THING AND THEN WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT APART BOARD, BUT WE HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD WITH A FORMALIZED FOOD TRUCK AREA BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE [NOISE] THE AMENITIES AND ALL THAT.
THE IDEA IS TO PUT SOME FOOD TRUCK VENDORS AROUND IT, AND IF THIS WHOLE THING IS NOT OVERLY EXPENSIVE, IF IT WORKS WELL WHERE IT IS THERE, MAYBE WE CAN DUPLICATE IT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS WILL REACH COMMITTEE.
I HOPE NEXT MONTH HAVE A BETTER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP SHOULD BE THERE AND PREPARE A REPORT FOR YOU.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS IF THAT ALL WORKS ON ONE END OF THE PARK WE CAN DO IT ON THE OTHER END OF THE PARK, BECAUSE IF WE CAN PARK 3,000 CARS, YOU PROBABLY HAVE NEED FOR THE AMENITIES.
NO ONE IS OPERATING OUT OF THE PAVILION EXCEPT.
>> EVEN THEN, THE JUNIOR GUARD CAMP WILL BE HELD CONDUCTED UNDER A LARGE TENT STRUCTURE THIS SUMMER BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT SAFE AND IT WAS SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT BOTH AT STAFF-LEVEL AND BETWEEN ART BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE TAKE THE PAVILION DOWN.
IF THIS WORK IS GETTING DONE, WE NEED TO TAKE THE PAVILION DOWN.
IF IT'S DONE WE DON'T WE ALLOW ANYBODY WOULD PARK BOARD PERSONNEL THEN THEY REMOVED THE PARKING ADVISORY OFFICE, THE PHONE, BUT IT'S BEEN MOVED PARK BOARD PLAZA.
THERE'S NO FUNCTIONALITY AND CERTAINLY NO PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE PAVILION.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THAT ENGINEERED DRAINAGE SYSTEM TO SEE HOW IT PERFORMS.
>> ITS GOT IT'S DETRACTORS AND SO FORTH BUT THIS IS THE SOLUTION THAT WAS ENGINEERED AND BUILT.
IT'S OUT THERE. WE'VE GOT FOUR.
[LAUGHTER] EVERYBODY'S GOING TO [INAUDIBLE] BUT IT'S GOT FOUR VERY NICE ARCH BRIDGES TO GET ACROSS THAT TO THE BEACH.
IT SEPARATES THE PARKING AREA FROM THE BEACH ACTIVITY AREA, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
THEY ASKED ME THIS TIME IN 2024, HOW DID THAT WORKOUT?
>> THANK YOU, DAVID, ANYTHING ELSE?
>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR ITEMS. BRIAN, WISH YOU A GOOD VACATION.
BRIAN IS LEAVING AFTER THIS MEETING, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> I GOT A DAUGHTER GRADUATING TONIGHT, VERY PROUD [BACKGROUND] GOT A HOUSE FULL OF PEOPLE WITH THINGS BREAKING INTO A HOUSE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE FUN, BUT WE'LL SEE, BUT IT'S A VERY PROUD, OVER THE NEXT WEEK WILL BE IN AGGIELAND FOR STUDENT ORIENTATION SO [OVERLAPPING] ALL GOOD.
>> CONGRATULATIONS. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR AGENDA ITEMS. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
>>THANK YOU, COUNCIL. [INAUDIBLE]
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.