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[00:00:03]

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY? GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

[1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

IT IS 9.00 AM, AND I'M GOING TO OFFICIALLY CALL THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP FOR APRIL 28TH TO ORDER.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HERE.

GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY HERE.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT JANELLE COULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?

>> MAYOR BROWN?

>> PRESENT.

>> MAYOR COUNCIL COLLINS?

>> PRESENT

>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?

>> PRESENT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SCHUSTER?

>> HERE. [NOISE]

>> COUNCILMEMBER LISTOWSKI?

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER ROBB?

>> PRESENT.

>> [BACKGROUND] VERY GOOD. [NOISE] WE'VE HAD A QUORUM HERE.

[OVERLAPPING] GOOD MORNING, BRIAN.

HOW ARE YOU THIS MORNING? DAN, GOOD MORNING? LET'S MOVE TO ITEM.

[3.A. Clarification of Consent and Regular City Council Agenda Items - This is an opportunity for City Council to ask questions of Staff on Consent and Regular Agenda Items (20 minutes)]

WE ARE IN DISCUSSION ITEMS. [NOISE] LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3.A.

>> SORRY.

>> PLEASE, MA'AM.

>> SORRY. [LAUGHTER]

>> NO PROBLEM.

>> 3.A PLEASE, JANELLE.

>> 3.A: CLARIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.

>> BEFORE WE START GOING THROUGH FROM EACH COUNCILMEMBER THERE, I WANT TO BRING UP ITEM 11.F.

I WAS TOLD THAT'S BEEN DEFERRED.

BRIAN, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT, SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN THAT UP.

>> LET ME SEE WHAT 11.F IS.

>> IT'S A PIPELINE [OVERLAPPING] EASEMENT.

>> [NOISE] I THINK ROBB [INAUDIBLE].

>> MORNING, ROBB?

>> YOU JUST HAD A QUESTION.

>> WE'RE GOING TO DIFFER THAT ONE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

WE LOOKED AT WHETHER WE HAVE TO DO THAT VIA ORDINANCE.

LET'S HAVE A RESOLUTION TO BRING TO YOU BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWING USE OF THE CITY PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO I NEED TO GO BACK AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK FROM LEGAL TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU GUYS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT A UNDERGROUND TRANSMISSION MAIN FOR CRUDE OIL TO GO THROUGH TEXAS CITY TO TIT TERMINAL THERE, AND IT'LL CROSS THE CORNER OF THE CITY PROPERTY AT THE MAIN.

WE'RE DRIVING A PLAN TO RELEASE THE WATER ABOUT 30 FEET DEEP.

[NOISE] WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS OKAY TO BE DONE THAT WAY.

>> JOHN?

>> WHY IS THIS BEING DEFERRED? BECAUSE [NOISE] I WAS ACTUALLY TOLD THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON OUR AGENDA FROM LAST TIME.

>> LAST TIME, WE NEEDED SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM TEXAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR DESIGN DOES NOT IMPACT THE FUTURE PLAN FOR [NOISE] THAT KIND OF BRIDGE.

I GOT INFORMATION FROM TEXAS SAYING THAT THEY NEEDED A LETTER FROM TIT.

TIT SENT THE LETTER THIS PAST MONDAY CONFIRMING THAT THEY ARE NOT IN COMFORT WITH THE DESIGN AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO I HAVE THAT.

BUT THE PIECE I NEED TO DO, THOUGH, IS I NEED TO HAVE IT AS AN ORDINANCE FOR RESOLUTION.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE TO DO AN ORDINANCE.

SO I PUT INTO THE SYSTEM WRONG.

THAT'S MY MISTAKE.

>> IT'S AN ELECTION MONTH, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE MEETINGS.

SINCE THIS HAS BEEN DEFERRED SOME MONTHS, CAN WE PUT IT ON ONE OF THE EARLIER AGENDAS IN THE MONTH, EVEN THOUGH I'M GOING TO HAVE TO?

>> WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>> YEAH, SURE.

>> IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, SO I DIFFER TO DAN BECAUSE HE HAS TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE.

>> LET ME SAY THERE'S A WEEK IN FRONT, I BELIEVE.

>> YEAH, PROBABLY ABOUT A WEEK.

>> WELL, [OVERLAPPING] BUT THIS HAS BEEN DELAYED. A WEEK WOULD BE [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM FOR THAT.

>> IS THIS THE ONLY PIPELINE IN THIS EASEMENT?

>> THIS IS AN EXPANDED EASEMENT OR A NEW EASEMENT FOR THIS NEW PIPELINE.

THEY'VE GOT THREE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, OVERALL.

THERE'S A PRODUCT TRANSMISSION MAIN, THERE'S A RAW TRANSMISSION MAIN, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER LINE THAT ALREADY EXISTS OUTSIDE OF ITS [INAUDIBLE]

>> THE OTHER ONE THAT EXISTS OUTSIDE OF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH OUR PROPERTY?

>> IT DOES NOT GO THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, CORRECT. IT'S UNDERNEATH THE WATER, BEYOND OUR PROPERTY LIMITS, TO MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST IS SLOWING DOWN BUSINESS.

>> I'M SURE.

>> [NOISE] HAVE WE TALKED TO THE APPLICANT HERE?

>> I'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT I WASN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE MEETING TODAY FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE I NEED THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT I CAN USE RIGHT THERE.

>> WHEN DID YOU REACH OUT TO THEM?

>> I REACHED OUT TO THEM THIS MORNING.

>> THIS WILL BE BACK ON OUR AGENDA, FOR SURE.

>> NEXT WEEK WE HAVE [OVERLAPPING]

>> NEXT WEEKEND, OR WHATEVER [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. WE JUST HAD TO GET THE CLEARANCES, AND WE NEED HEAR BACK FROM TEXAS ON MONDAY.

WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH TEXAS ON ANOTHER ISSUE.

IS IT SLOW GETTING THINGS FROM TEXAS?

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON 11.F, DAVID?

>> NO. THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD SAY THAT PROJECT [NOISE] AND RUNWAY, THE WAY THEY'RE CONNECTING IT TO THE SIDE ROADS IS MUCH BETTER THAN [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]

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>> BY THE WAY, AND NOT WITH THE FLOODING, IF YOU'VE NOTICED.

>> THE CROSSINGS HAVE REALLY HELPED.

>> YES, JOHN?

>> NOW, WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO US, TELL ME WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE THAT IS NOT HERE TODAY.

>> IT SHOULD COME IN AS AN ORDINANCE FOR YOU GUYS TO AGREE ON THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THAT EASEMENT TO BE GRANTED.

>> THE ORDINATES FOR THE EASEMENT?

>> YEAH, INSTEAD OF RESOLUTION.

>> TODAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED AS WHAT?

>> I PRESENTED IT AS A RESOLUTION JUST TO ACCEPT THE EASEMENT AS IT WAS.

>> WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE RESOLUTION, BUT, DAN, YOUR CLAIM IS IT HAS TO BE AN ORDINANCE, CORRECT?

>> A CONVEYANCE OF LAND ALSO SHOULD HAVE AN EASEMENT DOCUMENT AS WELL.

>> AN EASEMENT DOCUMENT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, I GUESS.

>> IF THEY'RE CROSSING OUR PROPERTY, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM PERMISSION.

>> WHAT DOES THIS TODAY GIVE THEM?

>> TYPICALLY, YOU DO IT BY CONVEYING [NOISE] A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE'D BE CONVEYING AN EASEMENT, A PIPELINE.

ITS NOT A BIG DEAL. IT'S JUST THE WAY YOU DO IT. [NOISE]

>> I GUESS IF IT'S THE WAY WE DO IT, I JUST WANTED WE DO IT THAT WAY.

>> NO, ITS NOT THE WAY WE DO IT. IT'S THE WAY IT'S DONE WHEN CONVEYING LAND.

>> WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW.

IF IT'S THE STANDARD WAY TO DO IT, WHAT DO WE [NOISE] MISS IN THIS PROCESS?

>> AS MY FIRST ONE, I'M DOING IT THROUGH A PROCESS OF [OVERLAPPING]

>> [OVERLAPPING] A RESOLUTION.

>> I'M DID AS A RESOLUTION. MIGHT MISTAKE THERE.

>> [NOISE] THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, RONNIE. [NOISE] I APPRECIATED IT.

LET'S WALK THROUGH THE AGENDAS, SEE [NOISE] ANY CLARIFICATION.

SHARON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAD US OFF HERE?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS RIGHT NOW.

>> YOU HAVE NO COMMENTS.

MARIE, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY CONCERNS?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE THAT I HAD A QUESTIONS ON.

[NOISE] CAN I MAKE A REQUEST OF STAFF? WHEN YOU DO THE STAFF REPORT, CAN YOU PUT THE AGENDA ITEM ON IT?

>> WE NORMALLY DO. THEY'RE NOT ON THERE?

>> UH-UH.

>> IN YOUR TRADED PACKAGE? IN YOUR PRINTED PACKAGE, THEY ARE ON THERE.

>> WELL, I PRINTED IT FROM THE PRINTED PACKAGE, AND THEY DON'T.

>> YOU PRINTED FROM THE ONLINE PACKAGE.

>> FROM THE ONLINE PACKAGE, YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH ORDER THESE ARE IN.

>> THE ITEM 9 COVERS AWARDING THE LEGAL FIRM OF LLOYD GOSLING.

THIS IS A TREE NOW ITEM.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO ANNUALLY THAT COVERS WHEN WE HIT A PIPE OR LIKE WHAT IS THIS COVER?

>> IT'S COMBINATION OF THINGS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> TRINA EXCUSE ME.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

LET'S GET THE NUMBER OF THAT.

>> 11M.

>> 11M? THANK YOU. SORRY.

>> IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS.

IT REALLY HANDLES EVERYTHING FROM A CONTRACTOR HITTING A LINE AND DEALING WITH THAT, TO ALL OF THE COMPLIANCE COMPONENTS THAT WE HAVE BUILT INTO OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, AS WELL AS THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.

WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF AN ISSUE ON [NOISE] SYSTEM.

WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF PEOPLE WHO KNOW ONE THING THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, THEN WE END UP HAVING ISSUED VIOLATIONS AND PEOPLE BEGIN TO ARGUE THAT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE LEGAL LANGUAGE.

YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING EVERYTHING DOTTING THE I'S CROSSING THE T'S.

LIKE THIS YEAR, WE'RE STILL CLOSING OUT THE BUILDING OF OUR CCN WHICH [OVERLAPPING] ENCOMPASSES THE ISLAND.

>> IS CCN FOR THE PUBLIC?

>> THE CCN IS THE CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY.

WHAT THAT DOES IS IT SAYS THAT WE OWN THE RIGHTS TO SERVE THIS ISLAND AND NO ONE ELSE CAN COME IN AND BUILD A PLANT AND SERVE HERE.

THAT'S WHAT THAT DOES.

>> GOT YOU.

>> WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND.

A PIECE OF RYAN GOSLING'S WORK IS FINISHING THAT WITH THE PUC.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE DEALING WITH THE GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY CONTRACT RENEWAL.

THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS

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AND THEY'VE PUSHED THAT PROCESS UPON US.

WE WERE DEALING WITH JUST DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

PEOPLE OVERFLOWING.

TIT RECENTLY RELEASED A SLUG AGAIN INTO OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

HOWEVER, THEIR NEW MANAGEMENT STAFF WAS ON TOP OF IT.

THEY ACTED THE WAY I FELT THE FIRST GROUP SHOULD HAVE ACTED.

BUT WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF VIOLATIONS, CRIMES, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S BEING USED FOR.

>> THAT WAS JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

>> I HAVE QUESTION ON THAT.

THIS IS FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

WE HAD IT IN THE BUDGET FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND YOU'RE COMING BACK FOR ADDITIONAL.

ADDITIONAL IS FOR WHAT REASONS?

>> A BIG CHUNK OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE'RE RENEGOTIATING WITH GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW.

TYPICALLY WE HAVE A SLUG OF MONEY BUDGETED TO HANDLE ALL OF OUR ROUTINE STUFF BUT WE HAD THE ADDITIONAL WITH THE GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY STUFF.

>> THAT ANSWERS IT. SORRY.

>> THEN I'LL JUST HANDLE THE NEXT ONE THAT'S FOR YOU.

I HAD TO DO WITH THE CRESCENT ON MY TRICK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER.

>> WHAT NUMBER IS THAT?

>> B.

>> B.

>> I KNOW THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT WE'VE GOT IN PLACE AND THAT WHEN WE DO IT, IT'S FOR THREE YEARS WITH A RENEWAL FOR THE OPTION OF RENEWING EVERY YEAR.

DO WE BID THIS OUT?

>> YES, MADAM. IT WENT THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS OR A BID PROCESS THROUGH RFP.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

I LIKE THE SAID LOCAL COMPANY.

>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO LOCAL COMPANIES THAT WE USE.

>> THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD HAS TO DO WITH THE PURIFICATION PROJECT.

>> WHAT NUMBER ARE WE IN?

>> IMPROVEMENTS ON 23RD STREET.

>> 11U.

>> 11U?

>> 11U.

>> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING.

>> I WAS CURIOUS, ONE, HOW WE BIDED OUT BECAUSE I FIND IT INTRIGUING THAT WE ONLY GOT ONE BIDDER BACK.

>> WE HAD THROUGH THE REGULAR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS.

THERE WERE QUITE A FEW CONTRACTORS WHO LOOKED AT IT.

SOME DECIDED THEY WERE TOO BUSY, SO ON AND SO ON.

WE ENDED UP WITH ONE PROPOSAL RECEIVED.

WE VETTED THAT ONE VERY THOROUGHLY BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE THAT ONE PROPOSAL.

CHECK THE PRICES BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS NEGOTIATING WITH THEM TWICE.

>> YOU GOT A LITTLE BIT SHAVED.

>> QUITE GOOD ACTUALLY.

>> I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT IT'S GOING TO MAINLY SEEMS TO GET A LOT OF PROJECTS AND PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THEM IN THE PAST.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAINLAND OCCASIONALLY HAS A BAD REPUTATION WITHIN THE CITY.

THEY HAVE DONE FOREMOST NUMBER OF SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS AND THEY HAVE UNSUCCESSFUL PROJECTS.

IF WE GO AROUND, THERE ARE OTHER CLIENTS, THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD REPUTATION.

THEY ACTUALLY DO FAIRLY GOOD WORK.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

WE WORKED ON THAT ISSUE. WE THINK WE'VE GOT IT.

>> BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE IS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON SO MANY PROJECTS.

AT ONE TIME THEY'RE UTILIZING THE SAME STAFF. ITS A MATCH THROUGHOUT.

>> THERE'S A BONUS THEY HAVE IF THEY HAVE PEOPLE DOWN HERE, [OVERLAPPING] WORKING FOR THEM, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND.

IF IT'S A SMALLER PROJECT, INSTEAD OF HAVING MOVE PEOPLE DOWN HERE WHO TRAVELED FROM FURTHER AWAY.

IT'S AN ADVANTAGE MORE THAN ONCE I GUESS IF WE SAY.

>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR I'VE READ THROUGH WHAT WAS IN THE PACKET, BUT I'VE BEEN LIKE TO HEAR MORE DETAIL SUCH AS THE PART THAT TALKS ABOUT CANOPIES, AND THINGS.

BECAUSE WHEN I PRINTED THIS OFF, PART OF IT PRINTED REALLY SMALL LOOKS A LITTLE INCH IN THE CORNER.

BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO PUT CANOPIES OUT THERE? WE ATTACHING THEM TO PRIVATE BUILDINGS?

>> NO. CANOPY WE'RE PUTTING, THERE'S NO BUILDING FACING ON THE STREET RIGHT AWAY.

CANOPIES MOSTLY UP AND DOWN AREN'T ATTACHED TO BUILDINGS.

WE OFFERED TO HELP WITH LIGHTING THE LOADS.

WE'RE NOT ATTACHING TO THE BUILDINGS.

>> THERE'S NO BUILDING PROPERTY LINE WITHIN 25 [OVERLAPPING].

>> NO. MARKETING IF WE CAN.

>> HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT CANOPIES IN THE HURRICANE PRONE ISLAND?

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SEEM TO BE A RISKY [OVERLAPPING]

>> CANOPIES ARE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL DOWN THERE IN GENERAL.[OVERLAPPING].

>> ATTACH THE BUILDINGS.

ATTACH THE BUILDINGS. [OVERLAPPING] THIS ONE IS DESIGNED FOR 150 MILE RADIUS.

IT'S A POWDER-COATED ALUMINUM, SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE AS MUCH RUST PROBLEM WITH IT.

IT'S GOT A TRANSLUCENT TOP OF THE SCOPE, A WARRANTY ON IT.

IT SHOULD SUFFICE FOR A LONG TIME.

NOTHING IS PERMANENT.

[NOISE] >. I WILL SAY THAT. BUT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS PROJECT.

CAN YOU JUST RE-CAPTION THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING INTO THIS?

>> AS WE START AT CHURCH AND MOVE NORTH TOWARD HARBOR SIDE.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEDESTRIANS TO MAKE THAT WAY, ESPECIALLY ELDERLY PEOPLE.

WE'RE ALL GETTING THERE.

I AM THE DISABLED.

>> EXCUSE ME.

[LAUGHTER] I WAS LOOKING AT YOU [LAUGHTER] NOT YOU MISS.

>> THANK YOU, DANIEL. YOU CAN SIT DOWN NOW [LAUGHTER].

>> DENIED.

[LAUGHTER] WE MAKE IT EASY ACROSS THE ALLEYWAYS, WHICH IS A PROBLEM.

WE MAKE IT EASIER TO GET UP FROM THE CURBS AND DOWN THE CURBS.

>> WHAT ARE WE DOING ON THAT SIDE?

>> WE'RE BUILDING RAMPS.

>> MAKING IT ADA COMPLIANCE.

>> MAKING IT ADA COMPLIANCE.

>> WE GO THROUGH THAT A WHILE BACK THAT MOST OF THIS JAM WAS MADE ADA COMPLIANT.

>> A LOT OF THIS DOWNTOWN AREA WAS THIS WAS NOT INCLUDED AND WE STILL HAVE LOTS OF PLACES DOWNTOWN THAT I DO HAVE DIFFICULTIES.

WE'RE RESURFACING THREE OF THE BLOCKS WITH PAPERS INSTEAD OF SIDEWALKS, [NOISE] IN SOME CONCRETE SIDEWALKS.

WE'RE REDOING THE CURVES.

WE'RE PUTTING SOME LIGHTING ATTACHMENTS FROM LEXICAL POST OFFICE TO MECHANIC.

HOPEFULLY, THAT HELPS WITH THE FLOODING ISSUES, BUILDINGS, SOME LAKE BARRIERS SO WHEN THE WATER IS HIGH AND PEOPLE GO DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, IN THE WRONG END OF THE BUILDINGS.

DOING LITTLE BIT MORE PLANNING DOWN THE AREAS THAT WILL SUSTAIN PLANTS.

>> HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN THOSE?

>> WELL, HOPEFULLY, THE BIGGEST ONES WE'VE GOTTEN DOWN THERE, THE BANK WILL, AS THEY MAINTAIN THEIR OWN, THEY WILL DO THOSE, BUT WE'RE PLANNING ON USING SOME OF THE IDC FUNDS TO WORK DOWN THERE [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE ALSO HAVE THE PARKS CREW THAT WE'RE HIRING, GETTING THERE NOW, PAYING FOR AND DOWNTOWN PARKING AND IT'LL HELP MAINTAIN AS WELL.

>> HOPEFULLY IT WORKS.

>> BECAUSE 2.3 MILLION OR 2.1 MILLION AFTER THAT SHAVING, GOOD JOB.

THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS PROJECT ON THE LONG TERM WILL COME OUT OF OUR IDC OR WILL COME OUT [OVERLAPPING] >. IT WILL COME OUT OF DOWNTOWN PARKING FUNDS.

>> WHAT ABOUT AFTER A HURRICANE AND YOUR CANOPY BLOWS AWAY?

>> WE WOULD CUT IT DOWN ON AND OFF AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AFTER THAT.

PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY PAY FOR MOST OF THAT. ITS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> GOOD. [INAUDIBLE]

>> DEBBIE, COULD YOU SEND US THE DRAWINGS FOR THAT PROJECT?

>> YEAH.100 PERCENT.

>> I GOT SOME PEOPLE ON THAT STREET THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT BEFORE COUNSEL? I DON'T REMEMBER, I'VE SEEN DRAWINGS IN IDC WHEN I WAS ON IT.

>> FROM THAT ONE ARGUMENT, I'VE BEEN THERE, BUT WE CERTAINLY DID SEVERAL TIMES IN IDC.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS SENDING IT TO YOU.

>> ARE THERE RENDERINGS ON THAT TAPE?

>> NO. JUST A CONSTRUCTION GOING ON. THAT'S FINE

>> WE HAVE A DESIGN FIRM ENGAGED, AND THEIR PRICE WAS $600,000 TO DO ALL THAT, INCLUDING SOME RENDERINGS.

>> YOU SAY THEY ARE IN-HOUSE?

>> THEY ARE IN-HOUSE. WE CAN'T SPEND THAT MONEY.

>> WE SAVED A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WE DIDN'T GET QUITE THE PRETTY PICTURE.

[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]

>> COUNSEL COLLINS ASKED [OVERLAPPING] ME TO DO SOME PRETTY PICTURES AND I EXPLAINED, I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY FOR IT.

>> THAT'S SMART ABOUT THE IN-HOUSE CONSTRUCTION.

>>JANELLE, IF WE COULD MAKE SURE THE COUNSEL GETS ANYTHING THAT MR. ANDERSON HAS.

>> WE COULD JUST SEND IT TO JANELLE MAKE SURE SHE DISBURSES THEM.

>> GREAT.

>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. I HAD JUST ONE OTHER COMMENT.

IT'S A TRIVIAL THING, BUT IT SEEMS IT WOULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL.

WHEN AT THE END OF THE AGENDA,

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SO ON LETTERS THAT GO ON FILE, LETTERS THAT ARE SENT OUT TO CONGRESSMEN [NOISE] THEY ARE CURRENTLY JUST SIGNED BY THE MAYOR.

WOULDN'T IT BE MORE IMPACTFUL IF THEY WERE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR AND THE WHOLE TOWN ITSELF? BECAUSE TO ME SEVEN, SIX SIGNATURES ARE BETTER THAN ONE.

I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL IN THE FUTURE IF EVERYONE WOULD SIGN THE LETTERS BECAUSE ONE WE MIGHT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PERSON AND THEY'LL SAY, OH I DIDN'T REALIZE OR WHATEVER.

>> FROM MY STANDPOINT, WHATEVER, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING LEGAL? I KNOW ON SOME OF THESE, ESPECIALLY THE ONE FROM THE POOR HERE RECENTLY, WE WERE REALLY GUIDED BY TIME CONSTRAINT ON THIS.

SALLY SENT THESE TO US AND I THINK WE HAD A DAY OR TWO TO GET THOSE OUT.

>> BUT WE COULD ALL HAVE ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES WHICH YOU KNOW.

>> YOU COULD, DOES LEGAL WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS IN ANY WAY?

>> WELL IF YOU'RE ALL GOING TO ACT TOGETHER, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE COMMUNICATION ITSELF.

>> TECHNICALLY, IF IT'S AN ACTION, THERE SHOULD BE A [NOISE] COUNSEL ANYWAY.

I WOULD BEG TO DIFFER THAT IT'S AN ACTION ITEM OF THE COUNCIL BECAUSE IT IS STILL AN ACTION ITEM OF THE COUNCIL IF IT ONLY HAS THE MAYOR'S STAMP ON IT.

I JUST THINK IT'S A HECK OF A LOT.

WHEN YOU SEE ANYTHING COME OUT FROM THE HOUSE OR THE SENATE, IT COMES OUT WITH EVERYBODY'S SIGNATURE BECAUSE IT GIVES THAT MUCH MORE IMPACT.

I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE.

HOWEVER IT'S THE EASIEST WAY AND AGAIN WE COULD ALL LEAVE ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES WITH JANELLE JUST I'M WISHING SHE DOESN'T GO SHOPPING. [LAUGHTER]

>> A COMMENT ON THAT TOO.

WHENEVER I RECEIVE THESE, LIKE THESE BATCH CAME FROM SALLY BACCO, I THINK WE HAD LIKE 24 OR 48 HOURS TO GET THOSE OUT.

FIRST THING I DO IS CONSULT WITH LEGAL AND I ASKED THEM, CAN I SIGN THIS OR DOES IT NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL? SURELY WE CAN LOOK AT THAT FOR THE FUTURE BY ALL MEANS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT'S ALL.

>> WILLIAM?

>> JUST ONE QUESTION, 11N FOR THE BACKUP BATTERIES FOR OUR STREET LIGHTS.

THIS IS A FOUR-YEAR PHASE PROJECT I WAS READING.

WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 100 WHEN IT'S ALL SET WE'LL HAVE 100 OF THESE ACROSS TOWN.

>> WE'LL HAVE BOUGHT 110.

>> WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE PLACED?

>> I HAVE A LIST AND I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU ALL. IT'S SPORADIC.

THEY'RE PLACED IN DIFFERENT CRITICAL AREAS OF BROADWAY, SEAWALL, UP AND DOWN IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SEAWALL, SEVERAL STREETS THAT HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH.

OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT PUT TOGETHER A FOUR-YEAR PLAN.

THIS IS YEAR 1.

IN YEAR 1, IT'S HITTING A LOT OF THE CRITICAL COMPONENTS, A LOT OF THE CRITICAL AREAS.

BUT IT'S MIX BETWEEN THE SEAWALL, BROADWAY, SOME HARBOR SIDE, SOME DOWNTOWN, SOME OF THE BIG NEIGHBORHOODS, SOME ALONG THE ONE WAYS.

>> THIS IS JUST A PROVEN THE FIRST PHASE.

WE'LL COME BACK IN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS.

>> IT WILL BE BUDGETED.

>> BUDGETED? OKAY.

>> IT'LL BE BUDGET AND YOU'LL SEE IT.

>> BECAUSE OF MY THING IS RIGHT NOW THE COST RISING ON EVERYTHING, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WANT TO FOR ADDITIONAL CAPE BACKUP WHEN WE COULD OR THAT'S THE ONLY THING IN THREE YEARS, WOULD IT BE WE [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU HAVE THE STAFF EVEN DO ALL THAT OR?

>> THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION BECAUSE IN THREE YEARS WILL THESE LIKE DOUBLE IN PRICE AND NOW WE'RE JUST STARTING MORE THAN HALF?

>> MORE THAN LIKELY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M SORRY TO SAY WITH THE CURRENT CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW WHAT WE DO IS WE SQUEEZE ALL THAT WE COULD GET IT WITHIN A BUDGET THAT WE HAD.

>> OKAY

>> ALSO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO TEASE.

HOPEFULLY, WE WILL RECEIVE THEM IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

>> EXACTLY.

>> YEAH, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION IS JUST WHEN WOULD WE EXPECT TO SEE A ROLL-OUT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] BUNNY IS NOT AS PROLIFIC AS HE USED TO BE. [LAUGHTER]

>> [OVERLAPPING] ACCORDING TO THE [INAUDIBLE] WE'LL HAVE IN 60 DAYS.

>> A LOT OF THE LIGHTS THAT.

>> HE TOLD US THAT ON OUR TRUST [LAUGHTER].

>> I KNOW WE HAD THE RAINSTORM AND LIGHT ON BROADWAY WAS JUST COMPLETELY OUT.

[OVERLAPPING] IS THAT JUST SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THIS?

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> THE LIGHT ON FRONT OF MILLER'S, I GUESS ON 19TH STREET.

>> WE TYPICALLY HAVE A PROTOCOL FOR THAT TOO, WHEN WE LOSE POWER A LOT OF TIMES WE GET A BLIP AND IT CAUSES THE LIGHTS TO RESET,

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WHICH IS ONE ISSUE THAT WILL STOP THAT BECAUSE THIS X IS A CONTINUOUS POWER SOURCE.

BUT THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE A PROGRAM TOO SOON IF WE KNOW WE'RE GOING HAVE AN EXTENDED POWER OUTAGE.

WE RAN UP THE GENERATORS ON THOSE LIGHT SETS TO GET A MORE OF IT.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAD ON.

>> I HAD A QUESTION ON THAT.

ARE THESE CONNECTED TO IT OR IS IT SOMETHING YOU ACTUALLY HAPPENED DEPLOY WHEN THE LIGHTS GOES OUT?

>> WHEN THESE COMPONENTS COME IN, WE'LL INSTALL THEM ON THIS SLIDE TO TRACK THE BATTERIES.

THEY'LL HAVE A BATTERY BANK.

THEY'LL BE CONNECTED TO THE POWER SOURCE.

WHEN IT RECOGNIZES THAT WE LOSE POWER, IS GOING TO GIVE US TWO TO FOUR HOURS OF ADDITIONAL BATTERY BACKUP BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE.

NOW, ALL OF THESE UNITS HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO COMMUNICATE OUT TO LET US KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN ACTIVATED.

WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AT ALL OF OUR PLACES IS A WAY FOR THAT SIGNAL TO GET BACK TO US.

WE DO HAVE FIBERS PLACES, OTHER PLACES WE MAY NEED TO DO RADIO OR CELL CONNECTIVITY, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY FOR US TO GROW THAT COMPONENT.

>> BECAUSE A LOT OF BUSINESSES WE HAVE TO RELY ON EITHER A PD OR FIRE TO TELL US THE LIGHTS ARE OUT OR A CITIZEN [OVERLAPPING].

>> BEN THEN THE OTHER THING, YOU SAID BRIAN, THIS WILL HELP BECAUSE WHAT DRIVES ME NUTS.

BECAUSE I USE THIS [INAUDIBLE] FOR HOME A LOT IS I KNOW LIGHTS GO OUT ON THE SEAWALL A LOT AND THEN THEY'RE NOT TIME.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> WHEN THEY COME BACK ON AND YOU'RE STOPPED AT THIS RED LIGHT, THE NEXT RED LIGHT, THE NEXT RED LIGHT.

>> WE HAVE TO SEND THEM BACK OUT THIS SHOULD HELP US A LOT THEN [OVERLAPPING].

>> THIS SHOULD ELIMINATE THAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL ELIMINATE, BUT IT WILL SURE HELP A LOT.

>> I WOULD THINK [OVERLAPPING].

>> PROVIDED THE POWER COMES BACK BEFORE THE BATTERY IS GONE.

>> CORRECT.

>> IT'LL ELIMINATE THAT ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

IF IT'S A FOUR-HOUR LIFESPAN FOR THAT BATTERY AND WE HAVE A SIX-HOUR OUTAGE WE'LL HAVE TO GET READY GUYS.

>> WE'VE HAD A LOT OF POWER BLIPS AND OUTAGES THIS PAST YEAR.

>> WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THOUGHTS ON A LOT THAT, THIS BIG RAIN.

>> THAT HELPED.

>> DAVID, YOU HAD A QUESTION [INAUDIBLE]

>> WILL THIS ELIMINATE I MEAN IF YOU'RE TAKING GENERATORS OUT THERE.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES ON MAJOR INTERSECTIONS YOU HAVE TO [OVERLAPPING].

>> RIGHT. IT DEPENDS, [OVERLAPPING] WE IMMEDIATELY, AND ACTUALLY, KEITH IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT CALLING US, BUT WE IMMEDIATELY COMMUNICATED WITH CENTERPOINT.

IF THE CENTERPOINT TELLS US THIS OUTAGE COULD BE MORE THAN WHAT THE BATTERY DURATION IS, YES, WE WOULD DEPLOY GENERATORS STILL.

>> BECAUSE WE DO THAT NOW.

>> YES, WE DO.

>> OCCASIONALLY WE SEE THOSE GENERATORS OUT.

>> YES WE DO. [NOISE]

>> WE CAN ALSO EXPAND THE LIFE OF EACH UPS BY ADDING MORE BATTERIES.

IT HAS THE ABILITY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO ADD MORE BATTERIES AND ESSENTIALLY IN SERIES.

WE CAN GROW IT UP TO THE 24-HOUR LIFESPAN.

>> I GUESS.

>> HOWEVER, IT IS COSTLY.

>> WE HAVE A 24-HOUR OUTAGE, EVERYTHING'S JUST STOPS.

>> BATTERIES DON'T LAST FOREVER, BUT WE DO HAVE LED LIGHTS NOW, WHICH ARE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, SO WE CAN RUN A LOT MORE ON THE BATTERY THAN WE USED TO.

>> WHAT IS THE THING THAT TRIGGERS THE STOP SIGN? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF OUTAGES [OVERLAPPING] WHEREAS THERE HASN'T HAPPENED AT STOP SIGNS FOR LIKE A DAY AND A HALF.

>> WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE OUT?

>> YEAH.

>> OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE IF WE HAVE PROLONGED OUTAGE, WE IMMEDIATELY DEPLOY [INAUDIBLE] GUY.

>> I THINK I EVEN TEXTED YOU OR THEM IN THE MORNING SAYING, "LIGHTS OUT".

PEOPLE ARE STOPPING ANYWAY, WHICH I [OVERLAPPING].

>> TYPICALLY WE HAVE A TRUCK OUT THERE PRETTY QUICK.

>> AS LONG AS WE KNOW ABOUT IT, WE GET THEM OUT THERE.

>> OKAY.

>> THEY CARRY THE STOP SIGNS ON THE TRUCK.

>> ANY OTHER?

>> NO, THAT WAS IT. I THINK IT'S COOL.

>> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR GOOD WORK YOU DO BY THE WAY, TRINA.

>> THANKS, TRINA. [NOISE]

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> NO, THAT'S IT.

>> NO, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> JOHN?

>>I GOT MINE ANSWERED. THANK YOU.

>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO GO TO 8A.

IT'S FOR THE SIGN AMENDMENT.

GOOD MORNING TIM HARRY.

>> GOOD MORNING SIR?

>> [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] I KNOW THIS IMAGE OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE WAS THE IMPETUS WAS THE NEW CRUISE TERMINAL DOWN THERE AND SO FORTH.

THIS I TAKE IT THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE HERE, THAT WOULD SUPPORT THEN THE PORCH WANTING TO DO DOWN THERE WAS FOR AVERAGE TERM.

>> IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN THAT MATHEMATICAL PROGRESSION OF DISTANCE TO FIND ITS RELATIVE TO THAT DISTANCE. IT WORKED OUT.

>> VERY GOOD. WELL THAT WAS EASY.

>> AS LONG AS WE'RE ON THE FRONT ABOUT 8A BECAUSE THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE CHANGING ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

>> NO.

>> NO.

>> THIS IS DIFFERENT [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S 8B, IS IT?

>> IT'S ATTRACTED TOWARD HARBORSIDE.

>> OKAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION BUT I THINK WHEN YOU'RE DONE.

>> SURE. THANK YOU, TIM THAT WAS EASY. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE]

[00:30:01]

>> YOU TOOK IT TOO FAR.

>> DAVID, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL COME BACK 8B HERE JUST A SECOND.

>> IT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> 10A, I JUST WANT FOR THE PUBLIC SAKE.

I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONFUSED ON THE PROCESS FOR MOVING IN, REQUESTING RESIDENTIAL PARKING.

COULD SOMEONE JUST GO OVER QUICKLY THE PROCESS THAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CHANGE WHAT WE DO?

>> TYPICALLY THEY BRING IT UP TO US.

WE'D LOOK AT THE AREA AND SURVEY TO SEE HOW IT MEETS, WE TRY TO GET INPUT FROM NEIGHBORS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE JUST USUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REQUEST IT GOES TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

THEY DRAFT THE ORDINANCE.

>> IN THIS INSTANCE, THERE WAS A COMPLAINT FROM A CITIZEN.

I POINTED THE COMPLAINT TO SCHUSTER AND SAID, WE CAN EXTEND THIS RESIDENTIAL PARKING HERE IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE.

HE SAID YES, AND THAT WAS THE PROCESS IN THIS CASE.

>> I JUST WANT FOR THIS PUBLIC BECAUSE WE USED TO HAVE, THERE WAS DISCUSSION.

YOU HAD TO HAVE ALL THE INDIVIDUALS ON THE BLOCK TO APPROVE IT OR THAT [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL, THAT IF I WANTED TO DO IT, I WOULDN'T NEED TO GET MY NEIGHBORS TO SIGN A PETITION. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE TYPICALLY TRY TO GET THAT INPUT IN THIS INSTANCE BECAUSE IT CAME TO DON, I DIDN'T COME TO ME.

>> HE WENT TO COUNCIL MEMBER SCHUSTER AND THEY AGREED UPON IT.

>> PERSONALLY, I THINK WE NEED TO OUTLINE THE CRITERIA THAT NEEDS TO BE MET.

IT SEEMS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMEWHAT SUBJECTIVE.

IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE PAST.

>> YEAH. I MEAN, WE TYPICALLY ONLY HAVE THESE MOMENTS WHERE PEOPLE REQUEST THEM.

>> WE'VE DONE A LOT OF OUR ZERO REQUESTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I'VE ALWAYS HEARD YOU SAY IT'S NEBULOUS REQUIREMENTS.

I'VE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THAT IT'S 75 PERCENT OF HOMEOWNER RESIDENCE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE.

>> SECOND, HOME OWNER SO FAR OUR SHORT-TERM IS THAT KIND OF THING.

IT'S 75 PERCENT OPPONENTS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE REASON WE DO THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE GO BACK AND FORTH.

I MEAN, WE'LL PUT AN END TO PLEASE THREE PEOPLE AND THEN THREE PEOPLE ARE UPSET THEN WHERE WE SAID THAT'S WHY AT LEAST ONE ON OUR SIDE OF IT, WE TRIED.

>> IF PEOPLE MOVE AND THE NEW PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH, I CARE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THESE I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING FORWARD VERY LONG.

BECAUSE THE CLOSER YOU GET TO DOWNTOWN THESE DAYS, THE VISITOR COUNT GOES UP, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAS UTMB STARTED CHARGING MORE IN THERE FOR THEIR PARKING AND IT STARTED BLEEDING OUT MORE AND MORE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I MEAN, THOSE RESTRICTIONS GO ALL THE WAY TO 12TH STREET OR BEYOND IN SOME CASES.

THIS IS DRIVEN, I THINK BY SEAWORLD.

JUST THE BEACH RATHER THAN STREAMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> THE AREA. THAT'S RIGHT BY THE SEAWORLD.

>> YEAH. I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT COULD ARISE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I'VE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THAT IF 75 PERCENT OF OWNER-OCCUPIED HOMES MUST APPROVE.

>> I'M SORRY ZONING.

>> THAT'S RELIGIOUS REZONING.

I GUESS I'VE JUST ALWAYS APPLIED THAT TO THE CHANGE IN PARKING REGULATIONS AND SO FORTH.

I MEAN THE LAST TIME WE DID ONE, I ASKED FOR 75 PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS ON THE BLOCK AND GOT IT.

>> IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO DO 50 TIMES OVER.

>> WELL, DO WE NEED TO CODIFY THAT IN SOME WAY?

>> WE NEED TO CODIFY THIS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT.

>> I AGREE.

>> I AGREE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IT ALL CODIFIED FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO THIS.

>> WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT PARKING PASSES RELATED TO NEIGHBORHOODS? I JUST WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE PARKING PASSES.

A HOUSE GETS TWO VISITOR PARKING PASSES.

>> I THINK THAT EVERYBODY GETS TWO VISITOR PASSES.

>> WHAT IF THEY HAVE A DWELL IN, SAY LIKE THE MOTHER LIVES IN THE BACK APARTMENT, CAN THEY GET TWO MORE?

>> IT'S FOR EVERYBODY WHO LIVES AT THAT ADDRESS AND HAS A CAR GETS A PASS FOR THEIR CAR AND THEY ALSO GET TWO VISITOR PASSES.

>> EVERYONE WHO LIVES THERE GETS TWO?

>> [OVERLAPPING] EVERY CAR THAT'S REGISTERED TO THAT ADDRESS GETS A PERMANENT PASS TO PARK THERE OR A STICKER, AND THEN EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME NUMBER OF GUESTS PASSES.

>> THANK YOU. WILL MAKE SOMEONE I KNOW VERY HAPPY [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M CONFUSED ON THAT NOW, EVERY CAR THAT'S REGISTERED THERE GETS A PARKING PASS FOR THEIR CAR PLUS TWO VISITORS PASSES?

>> CORRECT.

>> FOR THE ADDRESS?

>> THE TWO PASSES IS FOR THE ADDRESS, YES.

>> NO, NOT FOR THE CAR? IT'S FOR THE ADDRESS?[OVERLAPPING].

>> FOR THE ADDRESS, CORRECT.

>> IF THEY HAVE A SECONDARY RESIDENCE IN THE BACK, THAT WOULD BE A SECONDARY?

>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT ADDRESS ONLY GETS TWO VISITORS PASSES.

>> EVEN IF THEY HAVE A SECONDARY RESIDENCE IN THE BACK?

[00:35:02]

>> I DON'T KNOW. [LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> BUSH BEFORE YOU START, WE COULD REALLY GET OFF ON A TANGENT ON [OVERLAPPING] IT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA BUT IF YOU COULD JUST SUM THAT UP.

>> I CAN TELL YOU HOW WE'VE BEEN OPERATING AND IT'S BEEN WORKING VERY WELL.

IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES OR MULTIPLE HOUSES ON ONE PROPERTY, IT GOES ON HOW MANY METERS ARE ON THAT PROPERTY? IF YOU HAVE A METER FOR THE FRONT HOUSE AND THE METER FOR THE BACK HOUSE, THAT'S TWO PROPERTIES.

WE TREAT IT AS TWO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES FOR THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT'S TWO HOUSES.

EACH PROPERTY GETS TWO GUEST PASSES, AND THEN AT LEAST TWO PERMITS, IF THEY HAVE INSURANCE ON A CAR AND THEIR NAME FOR THAT ADDRESS.

NOW, THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE IS IF YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNERS ITS AIRBNB, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR ADDRESS THERE, BUT YOU'RE THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

WHEN YOU GET PERMITS FOR YOURS, SO WHEN YOU COME DOWN TO YOUR PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN IT OR STAY THERE, YOU HAVE YOUR PERMIT, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO USE A GUEST PASS.

BUT EVERY PROPERTY WE GO BY METER TANS.

THAT'S HOW WE DETERMINE HOW MANY PIECES OF PROPERTY THERE ARE.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC, SINCE WE'RE ON THIS SUBJECT, REPAIR VEHICLES AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, AS LONG AS THEY'RE DENOTED SUCH, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO PARK THERE [OVERLAPPING].

>> THEY ARE EXEMPT. THAT'S CORRECT.

AS LONG AS THEY HAVE MARKINGS ON DETERMINING WHAT THEY ARE, THEN THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE THE PERMITS, NOW WHAT WE'RE COMING INTO IS A LOT OF THESE THAT AREN'T MARKED AND THAT CAUSES AN ISSUE.

WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO DO IS PUT A SIGN IN THE VEHICLE OF THE COMPANY THEY ARE AND WHAT PROPERTY THEY ARE WORKING ON.

IF IT COMES UP TO A QUESTION, WE CAN GO TO THAT PROPERTY TO VERIFY THAT THEY ARE A CONTRACTOR AND THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT HOUSE.

>> THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE. WHEN I WAS IN NEW ORLEANS, IF YOU WALK THROUGH THE FRENCH QUARTER, YOU'LL SEE A BLACK OR WHITE TRUCK PARKED THERE AND THERE WILL BE A NOTE ON THE DASHBOARD AND IT'S LIKE THEY'RE HAVING WORK DONE ON THAT BUILDING AND YOU LOOK UP, I MEAN, IT'S TRUE, BUT I SAW THAT WHEN WE WERE THERE.

I THOUGHT THAT, WHICH CAME UP WITH THAT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS [OVERLAPPING]

>> WHAT WE WANT, MAKES IT EASIER FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT.

HAVE THE SIGNS MARKED ON THE VEHICLE OF WHO IT IS.

THAT WAY WE KNOW THERE ARE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO IN THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT THANK YOU.

>> A LOT OF OLD HOUSES HAS A SLIGHT NEEDS FOR PLUMBERS, ELECTRICIANS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> I DO THINK WE NEED TO CODIFY.

GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE.

>> I DON'T DISAGREE ON THAT.

>> GO THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS.

>> YEAH. GO THROUGH A FORMAL IF WE COULD BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.

>> [OVERLAPPING] SURE. THAT'S AN EASY ONE.

I THINK THAT WOULD HELP STAFF IMMENSELY TOO BECAUSE WE GET WHIPPED AROUND BY TRYING TO PLEASE PERSON OR ANOTHER PERSON DOWN ON ONE CASE LIKE WE DID WITH STREET LIGHTS.

I MOVED THE STREET LIGHT THREE TIMES.

FINALLY I SAID I'M NOT MOVING THE STREET LIGHTS ANYMORE.

>> I THINK YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE GOING TO PUT IT ON A TRUCK, DRIVE IT AROUND.

>> DRIVE IT AROUND. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> COUNSEL WOMAN ROB IS ASKING BECAUSE OF THIS DISCUSSION, DO WE NEED TO DEFER THAT ITEM 10A.

I THINK IT IS [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DON'T THINK [OVERLAPPING].

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> WE KNOW WHAT THE SIT- IS ON THIS ONE YEAH.

I MEAN, THESE TWO GUYS WHO [OVERLAPPING].

>> BECAUSE YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT, AREN'T YOU WILLIAM?

>> YEAH I MEAN, A RESIDENT REACHED OUT, JUST COMPLAINING ABOUT TOO MANY PEOPLE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE SEAWORLD AND WHAT NOT.

>> WE'RE FLAT OUT, RUNNING OUT OF PARKING SPOTS TO PUT CARS THESE DAYS GUYS.

DOWNTOWN AND ON THE SEAWORLD [OVERLAPPING].

>> GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE, BUT PROBLEM NONETHELESS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T PASS SOMETHING UNLESS THAN IF ITS SOLVING OUR PROBLEM.

>> WE ARE AT RESIDENTIAL PARKING.

>> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON TITLE 11B AS IN BOY.

THIS AUDIT IF WE APPROVE THIS, THIS WILL BE ADDED TO GLENN BULBAR READINGS AUDIT PLAN AND IT'S PERFORMING, I THINK 20 AUDITS AND SO FORTH THROUGH THE PARK BOARD FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS ONLY.

>> RIGHT. THIS REQUIRED A MODIFICATION TO THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN PARK BOARDS AND CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE ALL THE REST IN THE INTER LOCAL NOW WHO SIMPLY AN ADDENDUM TO THE INTER LOCAL TO ALLOW GLENN TO WORK WITH BRYSON ON THIS.

THOUGH THERE'S NOT A CONTROVERSY TO IT.

THIS IS KIND OF A PROFORMA.

WE HAD TO CHANGE THIS INTO INTER LOCALS.

>> IN THE PARK BOARDS' PAYING THE CITY AND PARK BORDERS PAY $600 A YEAR FOR THESE 20 OFFERS.

>> YEAH. MY ONLY COMMENT IS JUST IN THE FUTURE AS WE GO INTO GLEN-BOW BAHRAIN'S NEW AUDIT PLAN, I THINK THE PARK BOARD WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO ALSO DO ALL THE AUDITS.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT THAT IS [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO GLENN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPENSATORY SIDE OF IT IS ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE FOR US TO GET THE STAFF, THAT GLENN NEEDS AND [OVERLAPPING]

>> THIS IS WHAT GLENN AND BRYSON DECIDED TO REPRICE, DECIDED HE NEEDED TO ASK REQUESTED.

THEY ARE COVERING THE COST OF THIS.

>> THAT IS PROBABLY THE BEST IN THE STATE [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S EXACTLY. THE PARK BOARD RECOGNIZES THAT.

THAT'S WHY THEY LIKE HIM TO DO THOSE.

[00:40:02]

IN THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT, BRIAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING TO COUNCIL.

>> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY 11V, AS IN VICTOR, COUNCIL, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION WITH THE APPROVAL, IF WE APPROVE THAT, THAT COMES WITH THE CONTINGENCY TO IT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> BRIAN, COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY.

>> WE'VE AGREED UPON EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE RATE FOR OUR CARS.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT CARS A LOT THESE DAYS, BUT THE RATE IS EXTREMELY LOW AND OUR COST OF OPERATIONS FOR CARS THESE DAYS IS EXTREMELY HIGH.

WE'VE GONE BACK TO TEXT DOT TO TRY TO ADJUST THAT IT AT LEAST UP TO WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE THE FEMUR RATE FOR OUR VEHICLES.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM TEXT DOT YET.

WE'RE ASKING TO APPROVE THIS SO WE DON'T HAVE A LAPSE AND COVERAGE AT THE FERRY LANDING SUBJECT TO THE CITY IN THE FERRY AND THE STATE AGREEING UPON A RATE FOR OUR VEHICLES.

>> VERY GOOD. ITEM 12A WITH MY LAST QUESTION, I JUST WANTED TO [OVERLAPPING].

>> LET ME MAKE SURE, DID I SAY THAT RIGHT THERE?

>> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JUST MAKING SURE.

>> IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO GET THE POSITIVE SUPPORT FROM OUR POLICE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. [LAUGHTER]

>> ABSOLUTELY.

ITEM 12, BUT JUST FOR THE COUNCIL'S KNOWLEDGE, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THE PORT OF GALVESTON AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS.

I THINK THEY SENT IT TO OUR BOARD COUNCIL, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THIS ITEM THAT'S ON HERE HAS BEEN COMING FROM THE PORT.

WE APPROVED THIS AT THE PORT LEVEL AT OUR LAST MEETING AND THIS IS FOR OUR APPROVAL HERE SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO LET COUNSEL KNOW THAT.

ALL RIGHT VERY GOOD. DAVID, YOU HAD A [INAUDIBLE].

>> YEAH, I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THIS THE FIRST TIME AROUND.

CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY A PARKING LOT HAS TO BE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL?

>> BIG CARS. [LAUGHTER]

>> WHAT ARE THESE BIG CARS PEOPLE ARE DRIVING? [LAUGHTER]

>> IT'S ALUMINATE USED IN BOTH THE AIRLINE, [INAUDIBLE] LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES.

IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT IT WAS CONDUCTED WHEN WE WERE DOING THE LDR.

IT WAS THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE AT THE TIME.

>> THE PARKING LOT IS HEAVY [NOISE] INDUSTRIAL.

THE REASON THAT'S HEAVY INDUSTRIAL [OVERLAPPING].

>> IS THE PEOPLE PARKING.

>> IT COULD BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TOO.

>> LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS WELL, YES.

>> LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ALLOW FOR PARKING.

>> THEN WHY ARE WE DOING [OVERLAPPING]?

>> BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

>> WHEN WE LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON ADJACENT USES IN ZONING AS WELL.

WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS COMPATIBLE AS POSSIBLE.

>> YOU'RE NOT ACCUSED AS [INAUDIBLE].

>> [OVERLAPPING] NO I WOULDN'T RESPONSE ON IT.

IT'S JUST, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE THERE AT SOME POINT.

THAT'S [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS ALSO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AS WELL, SIR.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME REASSURANCE, I MEAN, THIS PLANNING COURSE AND THEIR INTENTION IS POOR PARKING LOT, CHANGING THE ZONING THAT [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ALL THE TIME ABOUT YOU REZONE SOMETHING UP FOR A PURPOSE TODAY.

IT COULD BE [OVERLAPPING] TEN YEARS FROM NOW.

[LAUGHTER]

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ONCE AGAIN, PARKING CARS.

JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> THIS BRINGS UP A POINT.

JOHN IS OUR LIAISON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THOSE LIAISONS ARE SO IMPORTANT.

JOHN BRINGS BACK THIS INFORMATION TO HELP CLARIFY THESE. THANK YOU, JOHN.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THAT'S VERY GOOD.

>> THESE ARE LONG MEETINGS SOMETIMES. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SIR. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU CAN'T EVEN VOTE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> AN APPLE TURNOVER FOR YOU.

>> I ALREADY HAVE ONE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S PINEAPPLE [INAUDIBLE].

>> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA, COUNCIL? STAFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS.

>> I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SIR.

>> JANELLE IF WE CAN READ THE ITEM NUMBER 3? [OVERLAPPING]

>> [NOISE] VERY GOOD. LET'S GO AHEAD AND READ ITEM 3B [INAUDIBLE], PLEASE. JANELLE.

[3.B. Discussion of changes to the Civilian Review Board Ordinance (Legal - 20 min)]

[00:45:04]

>> 3B, DISCUSSION OF CHANGES TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD ORDINANCE.

>> COUNCIL JUST INTRO TO THIS SUBJECT.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MARSHALL PROGRAM.

WHEN THESE QUESTIONS CAME TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL RESPONDED BY IMMEDIATELY SETTING UP A WORKSHOP ITEM TO REVIEW THE MARSHALL PROGRAM.

JUST TO GIVE A REVIEW AND SEE IF THERE'S [NOISE] ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO BRING IT UP TO MORE COMMUNITY STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME, [NOISE] THERE WERE A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO GET INTO AND THERE WILL BE OTHER AREAS I KNOW, SO THIS DISCUSSION TODAY WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD.

THAT IS OUR FOCUS.

AT SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS, WE WILL HAVE OTHER AREAS OF THE MARSHALL PROGRAM THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING ALSO, SO THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF OUR REVIEW [NOISE] PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THE MARSHALL PROGRAM.

TODAY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD ORDINANCE.

WE ASK OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT.

DON, I'M GOING TO TURN THAT OVER TO YOU.

>> [NOISE] YEAH. MY ASSIGNMENT WAS TO GIVE A PROPOSAL.

IT CHANGED TO THE ORDINANCE CREATING A CIVILIAN REVIEW FOR IT.

COMPLAINTS AGAINST PEACE OFFICERS DEPLOYED IN THE MARSHALL'S DEPARTMENT COULD BE REVIEWED BY THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU TWO CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD DOCUMENTS.

THE FIRST IS [NOISE] HOW IT APPEARS IN THE CITY ORDINANCES TODAY.

[NOISE] THE SECOND IS MY PROPOSED CHANGES.

I WILL SAY THAT GENERALLY, I CUT DOWN ON THE CHAPTER BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF DUPLICATION.

BASICALLY SECTIONS THAT WERE APPENDED INCORRECTLY AND IT GIVES A BETTER FLOW TO THE DOCUMENT.

I HAVE PROVIDED THAT ANYTHING THAT A GPD OFFICER, AND IS SENT TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD, WILL ALSO APPLY TO THE MARSHALLS.

I DID THAT IN 220 B AND C. NOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A FLIP HERE.

BUT I ALSO ADDED IN A LINE THAT SAID, COMPLAINTS OF RUDE OR IMPOLITE BEHAVIOR WILL NOT BE REFERRED TO THE BOARD.

IF WE DO THAT, [NOISE] THIS BOARD WILL BE MEETING 24 HOURS A DAY.

I READ IN THE PAPER TODAY, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MEETING MUCH AT ALL. I DON'T HAVE ANY [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO MEET BECAUSE I KNOW MY PERSON HAS BEEN LIKE, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO MEET? WHY AREN'T WE MEETING?

>> MAY I ASK A QUESTION?

>> OF COURSE. THEY DON'T HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS, DO THEY?

>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S AS NEEDED.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]

>> RIGHT NOW IT'S UP TO THE CHIEF.

A GOOD PORTION OF I JUST SAW CLARIFICATION HERE GONE, YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS.

THE MAIN REASON THEY HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS HERE RECENTLY WAS BECAUSE OF SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES WITH THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD.

AS YOU KNOW, CHIEF HAIL SUSPENDED THE BOARD FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, SO WE HAD TO RESTRUCTURE THAT AND THEN COME BACK AND PUT [OVERLAPPING].

>> I DID THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GETTING.

>> CORRECT.

>> I CHANGED IT SO THEY DIDN'T GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT THEN IT WAS REACTIVATED.

>> YES, SIR. GO RIGHT AHEAD.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID IF IT'S A CERTAIN BEHAVIOR, ONE WOULD GO.

WHO'S GOING TO BE THE DECISION-MAKER ON THAT?

>> FOR THE POLICE, IT WILL BE THE POLICE CHIEF.

FOR THE MARSHALL, IT WILL BE THE CITY MANAGER.

[NOISE]

>> MAYBE IT SHOULD BE THE POLICE CHIEF ON BOTH SINCE IT'S A PEACE OFFICER.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL CAN CONSIDER.

PROBABLY WE'D NEED SOME INPUT FROM THE CHIEF ON THAT.

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HE JUST WENT TO A FUNERAL SO HE CAN'T BE HERE.

THAT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE.

NOW BASICALLY, WHEN HE GETS A COMPLAINT.

THERE ARE SOME [OVERLAPPING].

>> I COULD TELL YOU BEFORE I WOULD SEND ANYTHING TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD, I WOULD SEND IT TO THE POLICE TO REVIEW ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS DO.

I'M NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR HAD THAT BACKGROUND, SO I WOULD ALWAYS DEFER TO THE POLICE CHIEF ON THAT ANYWAY.

>> BY THE WAY, THIS IS WRITTEN IS IF YOU GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE MARSHALL AND YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED, YOU'LL SEND IT EITHER TO GPD, OR THEIR OPS OFFICE TO LOOK AT OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

>> THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS IN THERE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES OUR MARSHALLS ARE ACTING IN CONJUNCTION WITH PD AND INSURANCE DEPARTMENT HAS TO BE THAT OPTION.

>> JUST FOR OUR CITIZENS.

CAN YOU TELL THEM WHAT OSB IS?

>> THE OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.

>> IT'S THEIR INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS BUREAU.

>> INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

>> THE INVESTIGATION SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR.

[NOISE] THE INVESTIGATION PROCESS IS CONDUCTED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR BY THE INTERNAL INVESTIGATIVE DEPARTMENT OF GPD?

>> THE CHIEF WILL REFER THAT.

>> THEN THAT COMES BACK, IF IT'S MARSHALL, IT COMES BACK TO YOU AS THE CITY MANAGER.

IF IT'S A GPD OFFICER, IT GOES TO OF COURSE, THE POLICE CHIEF.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THEN YOU TAKE ACTION, WHATEVER YOU FEEL IS APPROPRIATE AT THAT POINT IN TIME. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> IT'S CORRECT.

>> DAVID?

>> I FINISHED MY QUESTION.

>> SURE.

>> JUST WHO I'M REFERRING TO.

IF WE GO TO THAT CHIEF AND THEN CHIEF BANKS THE DECISION OR THE CHIEF [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE CHIEF CONDUCTS THE INVESTIGATION, HE PRESENTS THE FACTS BACK.

THEN BASED ON THOSE FACTS, IT WOULD BE REFERRED TO THE CIVILIAN, JUST LIKE THE CHIEF DOES NOW.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WHOSE DECISION?

>> THE CHIEF. I WOULD DEFER THE CHIEF'S DECISION'S ON THAT.

I'M NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSON.

IF THE CHIEF FEELS LIKE IT NEEDS TO GO TO CRB, IT'S GOING TO THE CRB.

>> BECAUSE CITY STAFF WILL NOT BE CONDUCTING THE INVESTIGATION.

THAT WILL BE GPD'S JOURNAL INVESTIGATIVE.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WHAT THIS DOES IS PROVIDE FOR CITIZEN OVERSIGHT OF THE MARSHALL'S OFFICE THE WAY IT EXISTS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> YES. I WANT TO ALSO TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE MEMBERS OF THIS CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD ARE NOT ONLY BUSINESS OWNERS BUT THEY ARE CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY HERE, THIS IS NOT THE STAFF PEOPLE[OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THE STAFF'S NOT INVOLVED WITH [OVERLAPPING] [NOISE]. THAT'S CORRECT.

>> YES JOHN?

>> BRIAN, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD SEND ANY COMPLAINT TO THE CHIEF?

>> IT DEPENDS. I MEAN, NOT ANY COMPLAINT.

WE GET COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME.

HE SAID I WAS HERE AT 30 MINUTES AND I WAS HERE IN 15 MINUTES.

I'M NOT SENDING THOSE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE DON'T STAFFER THAT OUT THERE, WE'LL HANDLE THOSE TYPE OF COMPLAINTS LIKE WE ALWAYS DO.

BUT IF SOMEBODY ACCUSES OUR MARSHAL OF SOME TYPE OF UNTOWARD BEHAVIOR, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK DON HAS HAS THAT OUTLINED IN THERE.

>> WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO HAVING THE CHIEF REVIEW ALL THOSE INSTEAD OF YOU?

>> WHY WOULD WE DO THAT?

>> I'M JUST ASKING, THAT QUESTION WAS BROUGHT UP.

>> IF IT INVOLVES A LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY, I WOULD AUTOMATICALLY REFER IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT WRITING PARKING TICKETS IS IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY, CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE UNDER CIVILIZED.

THE CHIEF IS NOT SKILLED IN THOSE AREAS TO LOOK AT THOSE.

>> JOB DONE SO I UNDERSTAND.

ARE YOU SAYING ONCE THE INVESTIGATION AND THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD HAS RENDERED THEIR OPINION, IF IT'S MARSHAL, IT GOES BACK TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE?

>> NO. IF A COMPLAINT COMES IN BY A CITIZEN ON A MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

CURRENTLY THERE'S A DOCUMENT THAT'S WRITTEN, BRIAN GETS THAT COMPLAINT.

HE REVIEWS, IT, DETERMINES IF IT'S VALID.

IF IT HAS VALIDITY, HE WOULD SEND THAT TO THIS CHIEF.

>> IF IT'S A LAW ENFORCEMENT FUNCTION, YES, IT WOULD GO TO THE CHIEF.

>> WHICH IS A MARSHAL FUNCTION?

>> WELL, THE MARSHALS PERFORM MORE THAN JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT FUNCTIONS.

THEY PERFORM CIVIL DUTIES AS WELL.

>> OKAY. SO WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.

>> I'M SURE DOESN'T WANT TO GET IT OFF INVESTIGATING WHETHER PEOPLE'S GRASS IS TOO HIGH OR NOT OR WHETHER THINGS ARE POSTED CORRECTLY.

>> IF THIS WAS DETAILED IN THE ORIGIN.

>> IT IS.

>> SAME STANDARDS BY WHICH THE POLICE ARE JUDGED.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I MEAN, I WON'T ARGUE WITH MARSHAL MY GRASS ISN'T TOO HIGH.

I DON'T THINK I NEED THE POLICE CHIEF TO INTERCEDE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON TOP OF THESE.

>> EXCUSE ME MARIE, LET'S MAKE SURE JOHN GETS HIS QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

>> I MEAN, I THINK MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED THERE.

I MIGHT HAVE SOME FOLLOW-UP ON THAT.

>> HERE'S THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT YOU CAN GET REFERRED TO CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD.

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THEY HAVE THE SAME FOR THE POLICE AND FOR THE MARSHALS.

THEY ARE EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE, OFFICIAL OPPRESSION, DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS, SERIOUS BODILY INJURY TO ANOTHER AND THEN THERE'S A CATCH-ALL, ANY OTHER INVESTIGATION SOCIETY AND APPROVED FOR REVIEW BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE OR BY THE CITY MANAGER.

>> I HAD A QUESTION ON THAT.

>> WELL, LET'S GET SHARON'S QUESTION.

SHARON, YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THAT?

>> LET ME SEE IF I CAN ASK THIS CLEARLY.

IT SOUNDS SUBJECTIVE AS TO WHAT THE COMPLAINT FROM THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE WOULD BE.

I HEARD SPECIFIC OF PARKING TICKETS, HOW HIGH GRASS IS.

ARE THOSE THE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WOULD COME TO YOU? I'M CONFUSED AS TO.

>> WE GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT ALL CITY EMPLOYEES.

THEY WERE RUDE, THEY WERE FLIPPED, THEY DISREGARDED MY COMPLAINT, I DISAGREE WITH THEIR STANDING ON THAT.

WE GET THAT FROM OUR SURVEY AND CODE COMPLIANCE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR GUY THAT DOES THE WASTEWATER INSPECTIONS.

WE HANDLE THOSE IN ALL THE SAME MANNER.

BUT IF SOMEBODY IS ACCUSING A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF DOING SOMETHING UNTOWARD BY THESE STANDARDS, IT WOULD OF COURSE GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IT WOULD OF COURSE GO TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD.

THAT'S HOW THE CHIEF FIELDS IT TO BE.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE IF IT'S OF THAT NATURE, IT WOULD MOVE TO THAT.

>> CORRECT.

>> BUT IF IT'S NOT OF THAT NATURE, THEN IT GOES TO YOU.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, WE HANDLE IT, WE TYPICALLY HANDLE THOSE.

>> OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, IT HAS TO BE DECIDED WHETHER IT'S THE DISCHARGE OF A FIREARM OR WHETHER IT'S 1,2,3,4 OR 5.

BUT THE REVIEW BOARD THAT'S BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY WILL LOOK AT THAT? NO.

>> THE COMPLAINT IS RECEIVED BY HIM.

>> FIRST?

>> YES.

>> HE WOULD SEND IT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS AT EITHER GPD OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

>> ONLY IF IT MEETS ONE OF FIVE CRITERIA.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> CORRECT.

>> THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING TO CATCH-UP. OKAY.

>> [OVERLAPPING] ANY OTHER INVESTIGATION AND ASSIGNED.

HE'S GOT SOME ATTITUDE THERE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] BUT IF IT COME IN AS A ROUTE COMPLAINT, IT GOES TO BRIAN.

HE SAYS, THIS IS A ROUTE COMPLAINT, THEN THAT WILL NOT GO TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD NO.

>> BUT IT'S STILL A SUBJECTIVE.

>> RIGHT.

>> I MEAN, I'M JUST TELLING YOU IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT HERE.

>> I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE GET THOSE COMPLAINTS ABOUT POLICE OFFICERS ALL THE TIME.

DO YOU WANT THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD HEARING ALL THOSE TOO?

>> NO, I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING OR DISAGREEING.

I'M TRYING TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE OUT THERE ASK ME, THEN I WILL KNOW.

I JUST NEED A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE FOUR ITEMS ARE HERE THAT ARE DESCRIBED, THOSE WILL TRAVEL THE OTHER PATH.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> IF IT IS CONSIDERED, I GUESS A MISDEMEANOR OR A LESS THAN OR SOME OTHER.

>> CIVIL MATTER.

>> CIVIL MATTER, THEN IT WILL STOP AT YOUR DESK.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. IF IT'S A COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THEN FROM THAT POINT, YOU WILL MAKE A DECISION.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. EVEN IN THOSE INSTANCES, I HAVE THE ABILITY IF I FEEL LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GO TO THE CHIEF TO LOOK AT, WE'LL DO THAT ANYWAY.

THERE'S A CATCH-ALL THERE THAT ALLOWS THIS PROCESS TO HAPPEN EVEN IF I FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T MEET ONE OF THE FIRST FOUR CRITERIA, I CAN STILL SEND IT.

>> MARIE, YOU HAD A QUESTION?

>> WELL, BECAUSE IT'S ALONG THE SAME LINES AND I THINK IT COVERED BOTH WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

LET'S SAY WE ALL RECEIVE THAT COMPLAINT.

WE FEEL IT SHOULD GO INTO THE PROCESS, BUT YOU DON'T.

HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> IT'S PERSONNEL MATTER AT THAT POINT.

>> THAT FALLS WITHIN HIS PURVIEW.

>> THAT'S RIGHT BY CHARTER.

>> OF COURSE [OVERLAPPING].

>> IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GO TO THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.

IT'S REVIEWED BY OR IT NEVER GETS TO THE CHIEF BECAUSE YOU DECIDED IT SHOULDN'T BE.

WE CAN OVERRULE THAT SINCE YOU TECHNICALLY WORK FOR US.

>> IF YOU HAD THAT MUCH OF A CONCERN AND THE COUNCIL COLLECTIVELY FELT IT WAS THAT MUCH OF A CONCERN. OF COURSE, I WOULD SEND IT.

>> CAN WE PUT LANGUAGE IN THIS TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> [OVERLAPPING].

>> BECAUSE THERE'S CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE MET DON AND I'M MAKING THE STATEMENT TO SEE IF YOU WOULD SUPPORT THIS.

THERE'S CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE MET LEGALLY WHEN YOU'RE INVESTIGATING A POLICE OFFICER?

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>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> WE GET OURSELVES INTO CONCERN IF WE DON'T FOLLOW THAT CRITERIA IN THAT PROCESS NOW, I THINK WE HAVE SOME LATITUDE ON THAT AND I'VE GOT SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT, BUT JUST A SECOND, BUT I'LL HOLD THOSE UNTIL THE END HERE.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO CIVIL COMPLAINTS, THE CITY SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THE SAME RULES.

>> OF COURSE.

>> YOU NEED TO MOW THE GRASS AT THE PUBLIC'S WORK OFFICE. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]

>> IN THE GRAVEYARD PUSHING UPDATES.

> WELL, NO, TRUST ME, WE ALREADY GOT SHUT DOWN MOWING THAT.

>> IT'S PRETTY REASONABLY.

>> MY GRANDMA IS WORKING HARD PUSHING THOSE UP, WE NEED TO LET IT BE.

>> DON. THIS WOULD MOVE FORWARD NOW, AFTER WE GIVE OUR INPUT ON THIS, WE'RE THINKING OF AN ACTION ITEM COMING BACK TO MAKE A CHANGE IN ORDER TO COMPENSATE.

IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> I THINK IT'LL LAST CITIZENS A VERY GOOD PATH INTO THIS AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

FROM MY STANDPOINT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TOO FOR A MARSHALS TOO TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT BACKUP OF HAVING A PEER POLICE DEPARTMENT OR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT REVIEW THEIR ACTIONS SO THAT WAY IT'S NOT JUST ME.

THERE'S THINGS THAT I SEE THAT I THINK I SEE IN BOTH PD AND THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

I THINK THAT'S CRAZY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO AND HOW THEY DO IT.

I AM NOT EQUIPPED TO DO THOSE JUDGMENT CALLS THAT'S WHY EVEN ON THE COMPLAINTS, I'VE GOTTEN THIS FAR.

WE'VE ASKED THE CHIEF TO GET INVOLVED IN THOSE AND I'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S JUST HOW I OPERATE.

>> THAT'S GOOD.

>> WILLIAM, YOU HAD A QUESTION?

>> IF THIS ALL GOES THROUGH WITH THE STRUCTURE, DO WE HAVE OPENINGS ON THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW OR?

>> IT'S FULLY STAFF.

>> IT'S FULLY STAFF.

>> OKAY. THEN IT'S BY DISTRICT FOR APPOINTMENTS IS THAT HOW WE DO THIS?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

>> YES, IT'S BY DISTRICT AND YOUR APPOINTING HAS TO LIVE WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT?

>> OKAY.

>> I BELIEVE.

>> THERE'S DISTRICT ONE?

>> ARE WE SURE ABOUT THAT?

>> [OVERLAPPING]. ON THIS BOARD, YES.

>> WHAT WAS THAT?

>> I SAID ARE WE SURE ABOUT THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS TO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT? IS THAT JUST TRUE [OVERLAPPING] IT'S TO GIVE EQUAL REPRESENTATION.

>> IF MARIE SAYS LOOK, YOU ALL ARE HAVING THIS PROBLEM, BUT I'M HAVING THIS PROBLEM.

THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT'S SPECIFICALLY LIVES IN HER DISTRICT THAT CAN REVIEW THAT BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN HER DISTRICT IS DIFFERENT THAN IT IS IN YOUR DISTRICT BECAUSE SHE'S GOT A DIFFERENT SET OF PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH.

MS. LOUIS YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE CAMPING ON THE BEACH IN YOUR DISTRICT. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

IT'S A PROBLEM FOR MARIE.

SAME THING WITH WILLIAM, WE HAVE DIFFERENT ISSUES IN DAVIS'S DISTRICTS SO THAT'S WHY.

>> I WANTED TO THROW OUT THAT THE IDEA BRIAN THAT AS IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS.

ONCE THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD RENDERS THEIR OPINION AND IT INVOLVES A CITY EMPLOYEE HERE NOT GPD, BUT CITY EMPLOYEE.

THE COUNCIL HAS A WAY OF KNOWING WHAT THAT OPINION IS.

>> WELL, ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT'S NOT IN THIS DOCUMENT HERE? I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT OR IF THAT'S GOING TO GO UNPOLISHED.

>> I'M FULLY TRANSPARENT ON THAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.

>> OKAY.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT TOO AS WELL [INAUDIBLE] AN EMPLOYEE.

BUT I THOUGHT I HAD DAN SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WE ARE ON THE EDGE OF.

>> THE CHARTER PROVIDES THAT WE HAVE A MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND YOU CANNOT TAKE DIRECT PERSONNEL ACTIONS FOR SOMEBODY WORKING FOR THE MANAGER.

HE HAS TO TELL THEM TO DO IT.

[NOISE] NOW, IF YOU TELL HIM, [INAUDIBLE] WOULD APPRECIATE X, Y, AND Z, AND HE DOESN'T DO IT, WELL, THAT LEADS TO A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. [NOISE]

>> I TEND TO LISTEN TO YOU GUYS PRETTY HEAVILY ON THAT STUFF.

>> SO AN X, Y, AND Z CAN BE A REQUEST FOR SOMETHING FROM ME, FROM A COUNCIL [OVERLAPPING]?

>> FROM A COUNCIL. COUNCIL PROVIDES DIRECTION TO THE MANAGER BUT THE CHARTER PROHIBITS US FROM PROVIDING DIRECTION TO ANYONE BELOW THEM.

>> [OVERLAPPING] IF ONE OF YOU HAD A PROBLEM WITH THIS SPECIFIC EMPLOYEE.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> I'M SORRY, SHERINE, I INTERRUPT YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT'S OKAY. I HAD YOUR QUESTION AND THEN I HAD THAT ONE ABOUT HOW WE'RE ON THE CUTTING EDGE AND YOU DID ANSWER THAT.

I WAS JUST ASKING, DOES THAT MEAN WHEN WE SEND AN EMAIL OR IF COUNCIL SENDS AN EMAIL OR A REQUEST OF SOMETHING, IS THAT UNDER THAT SAME?

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>> SURE.

>> SURE. THAT'S WHY IN MY POLICY IS THAT YOU COPY THE OWNER IN WHICH YOU'RE VERY GOOD AT DYLAN.

WHENEVER YOU NEED TO CORRESPOND WITH STAFF, I'M OF THE OPINION THAT YOU KNOW THE STAFF PERSON THAT CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YOU KNOW IF IT'S A PLANNING ISSUE TO CALL MR. [INAUDIBLE].

GOING THROUGH ME JUST SLOWS YOUR QUESTION DOWN, COPYING ME ON IT ALLOWS ME TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE CORRESPONDING WITH THE CITY EMPLOYEE, AND I CAN INTERCEDE IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE, BUT IF NOT, THEY GET YOU YOUR ANSWER QUICKER AND ALSO IT LETS ME KNOW THAT I NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.

>> THAT APPLIES JUST BY SIMPLY US SENDING AN EMAIL TO YOU FOR INFORMATION?

>> JUST COPY ME. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYBODY ON COUNCIL CORRESPONDING WITH CITY STAFF AS LONG AS YOU COPY ME ON IT.

>> YOU JUST COPY HIM IN THAT.

>> HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME, YOU ALL DO IT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

IT WORKS VERY WELL BECAUSE OTHERWISE, MY PREVIOUS PREDECESSORS HERE DID IT IN A WAY WHERE YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THEM, THEY WERE THE GATEKEEPER OF ALL THAT AND ALL THAT DID WAS JUST SLOW THINGS DOWN. I'VE GOT VERY [OVERLAPPING].

>> MADE FOR UNHAPPY PEOPLE TOO.

>> WELL, THAT'S RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A VERY COMPETENT STAFF WHO'S READY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

I'M WILLING TO LET [LAUGHTER] DO THAT.

JUST LET ME KNOW SO IF I'M GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THESE GUYS, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND YOU LET ME KNOW THAT AND THAT WAY I CAN MAKE SURE IF MURRAY ASKED BRIAN AND HILL FOR SOMETHING I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH BRIAN AND SAY, "BRIAN, HAVE YOU GOT THIS BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROB? SHE WAS LOOKING FOR IT." [NOISE]

>> OKAY.

>> I'M SORRY, WERE YOU THROUGH?

>> NO.

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY HOW THE COMPLAINTS ARE FILED.

FOR THIS PROCESS TO BE INITIATED, DOES IT HAVE TO BE A FORMAL COMPLAINT REGISTERED BY A COMPLAINANT OR IF WE GET?

>> YES.

>> OKAY. [LAUGHTER] WELL, THAT ANSWERS THAT.

>> WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROCESS GPD USES AT THE [INAUDIBLE].

WHEN THE COMPLAINING PERSON IS GIVEN A IF PACKAGE TO FILL OUT AND RETURN TO [OVERLAPPING].

>> WHAT'S IF?

>> INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

>> IF WE GET A COMPLAINT THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER GETS A COMPLAINT, WE REFER THAT COMPLAINANT TO?

>> REFER IT TO ME.

>> TO RYAN AND THEY FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT.

>> WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE COMPLAINANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THEIR PERTINENT INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

>> THEN WE'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY FILE SOME PAPERWORK WITH THAT FOR A FORMAL COMPLAINT.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THINGS, OF COURSE.

>> YEAH, THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES.

>> [LAUGHTER] BUT JUST UP TO A COUPLE MAYBE A MONTH AGO, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY FORMAL COMPLAINTS ON CITY MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> THEN THOSE COMPLAINTS GOT FORMALIZED SOMEHOW.

>> AFTER WE STATED THAT YOU HAVE TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT.

WE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF WRITTEN FORMALS AND THEY'VE BEEN TURNED OVER AND THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

>> BUT THEY DIDN'T FILL OUT A PACKET OR ANYTHING THEY JUST WROTE A FORMAL COMPLAINT, SENT IT TO YOU.

>> IN THAT CASE, PD HAS A MUCH MORE STRINGENT PROCESS THAN I DO.

I INITIATE INVESTIGATION BASED ON A CITIZEN ASKING ME TO DO IT.

I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS IN-PERSON THING THAT THEY GO THROUGH AT PD WHERE YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW AND FILL OUT A [INAUDIBLE], I DON'T DO ALL THAT.

[OVERLAPPING] LET ME KNOW THERE IS AN ISSUE, I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

>> A FORMAL COMPLAINT FOR THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE WOULD BE AN EMAIL COMING TO YOU SAYING, ''I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW A FORMAL COMPLAINT. THESE ARE MY ISSUES?''

>> YEAH. EVEN IF SOMEBODY CALLS ME ON THE PHONE, I WILL TYPICALLY ASK THEM TO FOLLOW UP WITH ME WITH AN EMAIL JUST SO I HAVE IT IN WRITING SO I KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

BEYOND THAT, NO, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES.

>> THERE IS STILL A PROCESS [OVERLAPPING].

>> A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE, I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION, THEY'LL EMAIL A COUNCIL PERSON, THE COUNCIL PERSON WILL CALL ME I'M WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION.

I NEED A DAY, WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN? THAT WAY I CAN REVIEW VIDEO AND I CAN GET IT TO THE CHIEF AND ALL THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IF IT'S JUST A VAGUE.

>> NO, ABSOLUTELY.

>> I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.

>> I THINK I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> ALL THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THIS MEETING TODAY, DO THEY GO BACK? HAD THEY BEEN GIVEN A PROCESS OR IS IT STILL THEY SEND YOU AN EMAIL?

>> SAME PROCESSION.

>> THIS PROCESS DOES NOT APPLY TO THE MARSHALS AT THIS TIME.

>> WE HAVE FIVE COMPLAINTS, I DID SOME RESEARCH.

WE HAVE FIVE COMPLAINTS THAT HAD BEEN FILED IN THE RECENT HISTORY HERE, AND ONE OF THEM HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE INVESTIGATIVE [NOISE] PROCESS AND THEY RENDERED AN OPINION.

THERE'S FOUR OTHERS OUT THERE.

>> THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

>> THE INTERNAL INVESTIGATION IS GOING ON WITH GPD. YES, MA'AM.

>> [INAUDIBLE] THE CHAMBER'S ADVOCACY COMMITTEE CENTER FOR A STATEMENT OR WHATEVER A LETTER OF COMMENT TO THE MARSHAL'S DEPARTMENT, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THAT READ INTO RECORD OR ANYTHING AT THE MEETING?

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BECAUSE I THINK IT HAD SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS.

>> I THINK WE'RE TAKING THESE SUGGESTIONS TO HEART, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IT'S UP TO YOU ALL WHEN YOU READ SOMETHING INTO A RECORD OR NOT.

I THINK YOU TYPICALLY ONLY READ OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD.

>> ALONG THOSE LINES, JUST MY THOUGHT, COUNCIL, WE HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE CHAMBER ON HOW SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THEY RECOMMEND, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THOSE.

I'VE GOTTEN SUGGESTIONS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS SO WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS CONCERNING THIS TOPIC.

I THINK WE'LL TAKE THOSE TO HEART, ALL OF THESE THAT COME IN HERE, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, AND MARIA, I THINK YOU WERE OUT GETTING SOME COFFEE, BUT THIS IS NOT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION.

WE WILL HAVE OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS [NOISE] COMING UP HERE CONCERNING OUR REVIEW, THE MARSHAL PROGRAM, AND DIRECTIONS THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GIVE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> CODE ENFORCEMENTS ARE VERY PERSONAL ITEM.

IT AFFECTS PEOPLE AT THEIR HOME AND WHAT THEY DO.

PEOPLE TEND TO ACCEPT THE FACT I WILL SPEED WHEN THEY DON'T NECESSARILY EXPECT THAT THEY ARE SPEEDING [LAUGHTER] BUT THEY ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY, BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH VERY PERSONAL ITEMS. HOW YOU MAINTAIN YOUR LAWN? THESE ARE ITEMS THAT THE COUNCIL THOUGHT SERIOUS ENOUGH TO PASS INTO ORDINANCE.

IT'S LIKE THE PARKING AREAS.

WE DON'T GET [NOISE] 75 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE'S APPROVAL BEFORE WE PASS A RULE ABOUT HOW HIGH THE GRASS NEEDS TO BE OR [NOISE] WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED TO HANDLE ASBESTOS ON THEIR HOUSE DIFFERENTLY OR THE MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT WE GO THROUGH WITH OUR MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

IT TOUCHES PEOPLE IN A PERSONAL WAY.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN IT IS WITH POLICE.

THAT'S WHY IT'S HANDLED JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE, AN NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE HAPPY.

CODE ENFORCEMENT IS A TRICKY THING AND IT'S SOMETHING EVERY CITY STRUGGLES WITH.

RESEARCHES HEAVILY AND IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO GALVESTON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND IT'S NOT UNIQUE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING.

IT'S ALL FUN AND GAMES UNTIL IT'S YOU.

>> WE'LL HAVE OTHER TOPICS.

>> PEOPLE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY WE NEED TO.

>> WE'LL HAVE OTHER TOPICS COMING UP ON THIS AND WE'LL ADDRESS EACH ONE OF THEM TO REALLY GET THE PROGRAM AS THE BEST IT CAN BE TO SUPPORT THE [OVERLAPPING].

>> ABSOLUTELY. THE WHOLE GOAL IS COMPLIANCE, GUYS.

IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULES THAT YOU PASS.

A LOT OF WHAT WE HEAR IS NOT NECESSARILY DISENCHANTMENT WITH A PARTICULAR MARSHAL, BUT IT'S A DISENCHANTMENT WITH THE RULE.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT.

>> WELL, WE'VE ALREADY, I THINK PLANNING IS ALREADY LOOKING AT THAT.

>> ESPECIALLY IN THE PARKING ARENA, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT, THEY'RE JUST UNHAPPY ABOUT SOME OF THE PARKING RULES.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, DAN.

>> PLEASURE MOVING FORWARD.

>> I THINK YOU'VE GOT INPUT FROM COUNCIL.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS PUT TOGETHER AS A ACTION ITEM COMING UP [NOISE] IN OUR MAY MEETING IF THAT FITS IN OUR TIMELINE.

>> YEAH. ABSOLUTELY, GREAT.

>> ACTUALLY, IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER ON ME BECAUSE NOW I HAVE A WAY TO GET THAT OUT OF MY LAP AND I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

>> VERY GOOD. YES, SHERINE.

>> DID I JUST HEAR YOU SAY THAT WE'VE TAKEN IN SOME INFORMATION FROM THE CHAMBERS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT INFORMATION HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN TO DAN OR?

>> YES.

>> BECAUSE IF IT BECOMES AS AN ACTION ITEM THEN THAT'S NOT INCLUSIVE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WELL, I THINK IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, THIS DISCUSSION ON THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD, IT WILL BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE AND THIS WILL BE AN ACTION ITEM JUST COVERING THIS ONLY.

>> OKAY. GOT YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM. AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

[3.C. Extension of the Industrial Development Corporation ( Brown - 15 min )]

LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3C, PLEASE JANELLE.

>> THREE-C, EXTENSION OF THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

>> I PUT THIS ON HERE COUNCIL.

THOSE THAT ARE ON THE IDC BOARD, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED, STARTED OUR DISCUSSION ON EXTENDING THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BEYOND 2029.

THIS IDC, IT EXPIRES IN 2029 AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEED TO EXTEND THERE FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS ON THAT.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED AT IDC OF REDUCING OUR SILOS, POSSIBLY FROM FOUR SILOS TO THREE SILOS AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.

WE DISCUSSED AT IDC, THE POSSIBILITY OF BRINGING THIS BEFORE THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER OF '22.

NOW ALL OF THIS HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETELY VETTED BY IDC AND WHATEVER THEY VET WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

IT IS ON THE AGENDA THOUGH, I PUT IT HERE, WE HAVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT ARE NOT ON IDC.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE MEMBERS WERE IN THE LOOP AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND I WANTED

[01:15:02]

TO DO IT AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE COMMUNITY OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING CONCERNING THE IDC.

I WANTED TO OPEN THIS UP IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT ON IDC ON THIS, I GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.

>> MAYOR WE SAY EXTEND.

IF WE EXTENDED IN NOVEMBER OF '22, OBVIOUSLY, IT'D BE WAY PAST OF '29, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT NOW IT EXPIRES IN '29, AND TO EXTEND IT BEYOND '29, THERE IS TWO TOPICS THERE ON THAT.

ONE, WE COULD SET A DEADLINE DATE WHERE IT WOULD EXPIRE AGAIN, OR WE CAN LEAVE IT OPEN-ENDED, WHERE IT WOULD JUST RUN UNTIL SOMEBODY PUT A STOP TO IT OR COUNCIL PUT A STOP TO IT.

>> I LIKE THE OPEN-ENDED.

>> THE OPEN-ENDED? YES, DAVID.

>> YEAH. WELL, I TOO THINK IT SHOULD BE OPEN-ENDED, OR 40 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT A FUTURE COUNCIL COULD STEP IN AND [BACKGROUND] PUT A RESOLUTION ON TO CHANGE IT IF THEY FELT THEY SHOULD.

THE PUBLIC SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT, [NOISE] SOMEBODY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT WE COLLECT TWO CENTS, OR WE ARE REBATED TWO CENTS OF THE EIGHT AND A HALF SALES TAX, COMES BACK TO THE CITY.

ONE-QUARTER OF THAT, WHICH IS TO SAY HALF A CENT, IS MANAGED BY THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS PART OF OUR 4B SALES TAX.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR SILOS.

THEY ARE [BACKGROUND] INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARKS, AND [OVERLAPPING] ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

THE PROPOSALS GO FROM 4-3 WOULD BE TO COMBINE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE THOSE TWO TEND TO.

>> IT'S STILL DIVIDED EQUALLY BETWEEN THE THREE.

>> BUT DIVIDED INTO THREE SILOS, BUT WE WILL COMBINE THOSE TWO SILOS.

IT EXPIRES IN 2029.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME IT WAS? [OVERLAPPING]

>> RIGHT AFTER HURRICANE IKE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT WAS IN '09, WASN'T IT? I THOUGHT IT WAS.

IT WAS EXTENDED TO 2029.

ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH US TAKING THIS ON THIS EARLY, SOME PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME WHY.

IT'S 2029, WHAT DO YOU CARE? THERE ARE TWO WAYS OF EMPLOYING THAT MONEY.

ONE IS PAY AS YOU GO, WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN THE FUND IS WHAT YOU SPEND.

BUT THINGS LIKE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO CENTRAL CRANE PARK, THAT'S MORE MONEY THAN WE JUST HAVE IN THAT PARK.

BY BEING ABLE TO EMPLOY A LOAN OR A BOND OR SOMETHING, WE CAN DO BIGGER PROJECTS NOW THAT WILL BENEFIT US FURTHER OUT INTO THE FUTURE.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T DO THOSE IF YOU ONLY HAVE A TWO OR THREE-YEAR [OVERLAPPING] PAY-BACK SCHEDULE, IT TAKES 8, 9, 10 YEARS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ESPECIALLY LIKE IN THE BEACH SILO, BECAUSE THERE'S NO CHEAP BEACH PROJECT.

>> THERE'S NO. [LAUGHTER]

>> THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

>> THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO TAKE ON LARGER PROJECTS LIKE CENTRAL CRANE OR LIKE [INAUDIBLE] BY EXTENDING IT FURTHER OUT INTO THE FUTURE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> VERY MUCH SO.

>> IT GUARANTEES A SPECIFIC SOURCE.

IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX.

IT WAS JUST HOW WE MANAGE THAT ONE-HALF OF ONE-SEVENTH PROPERTY TAX, AND THAT COMES DOWN TO 11 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR? [OVERLAPPING]

>> ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF?

>> [OVERLAPPING] A MILLION AND A HALF COMES [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] PER SILO.

>> THAT'S SIX MILLION EURO.

>> ABOUT SIX MILLION OF THAT COMES [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]

>> EXACTLY. IN GROWING.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WELL, IT'S GROWING NOW, BUT [LAUGHTER] LET'S HOPE IT CONTINUES TO DO SO.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WELL, THAT'S TRUE. [OVERLAPPING] IT'S NOT A SLAM DUNK.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> WHAT I THINK IS SO GOOD ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO USE SALES TAX, WHICH PROBABLY OVER 50 PERCENT IS GENERATED BY VISITORS ON THIS ISLAND FOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS THE PART PACKAGE THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA HERE.

THAT'S FOR THESE RESIDENTS HERE.

[OVERLAPPING] OUR BALL FIELDS IN SANTIO CRANE COMPLEX.

[NOISE] WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS THAT ARE BID, PELICAN ISLAND BRIDGE IS BEING OUT OF THIS, THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE HERE.

IT'S THE USE OF ALLOWING, SOMETIMES THEY'LL SAY WE PUT TOO MUCH EMPHASIS ON TOURISTS.

THE TOURISTS ARE DRIVING THE MAJORITY OF THIS SALES TAX AND HENCE WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO THE RESIDENTS' BENEFIT.

>> WHENEVER WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR OUR KIDS, THAT PEOPLE WHO JUST COME HERE TO USE THE BEACH, PAY HALF OF, THAT'S A GOOD DAY'S WORK, GUYS.

>> IT'S ALSO THE SOURCE FOR OUR MATCHING FUNDS FOR GREAT MAJORITY OF [OVERLAPPING]

>> YES.

>> VERY MUCH SO AND HAS IT BEEN A GODSEND FOR THESE NOURISHMENT PROJECTS.

WE HAVE MICHELLE [INAUDIBLE] WITH US, SHE'S OUR LIAISON AT THE IDC.

MICHELLE, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?

>> I THINK YOU HIT ALL OF THE MAJOR POINTS.

I'D LIKE TO, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS,

[01:20:02]

DEVELOP A PAGE ON THE WEBSITE THAT IS GEARED TOWARDS OUR IDC AND PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE FUNDING.

BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOP LOCAL BECAUSE THOSE SALES TAX DOLLARS THAT YOU SPEND HERE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE FUNDING THE PARKS AND [NOISE] REHASHING OUR BEACHES AND STUFF.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF WHAT WE DO.

BUT YES, YOU HAD EVERYTHING.

>> DOI BY ALL ISLAND.

[LAUGHTER].

>> I LIKE IT.

>> JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.

>> YES, SIR.

>> THE TIME FRAME WOULD BE REALLY ON NOVEMBER OF '22 TO ASK THE VOTERS TO EXTEND IT.

WOULD THE VOTERS NEED TO ALSO APPROVE THE CHANGE IN SILOS AS WELL AS PRODUCTION?

>> YES, SIR, THAT'D BE PROTOCOL.

>> YOU WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS ON THAT?

>> YES, SIR.

>> NO, IT'S NOT [OVERLAPPING] MULTIPLE THINGS [OVERLAPPING].

IT'S THE ONE ITEM THAT WE WOULD EXTEND IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF.

>> COMBINATION.

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] I THINK THAT SOUNDS WRITTEN OUT.

>> THAT WILL BE ON OUR NEXT IDC AGENDA COMING UP.

I THINK MICHELLE, YOU HAD MENTIONED TO ME IDC WILL LOOK AT THIS, MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS, WILL PROVE THIS, AND THEN IT'LL COME TO COUNCIL.

NOW, IF IT GOES ON THE NOVEMBER '22 BALLOT, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS TOTALLY COMPLETED IN ALL THE APPROVAL PHASES BY AUGUST.

IS THAT RIGHT, MICHELLE?

>> YES, THAT'S [OVERLAPPING]

>> SO WE'LL BE MOVING THROUGH THIS HERE FAIRLY QUICKLY WITH IDC AND THE COUNCIL. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK THE TIME LIMITS PLACED ON IN PREVIOUS YEARS, I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE FIRST ONE WAS PASSED, BUT THE SECOND ONE, WAS BECAUSE IT WASN'T A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH IT.

BUT I THINK NOW YOU GUYS HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PROOF TO DRAW ON OF THE VALUE OF IDC AND IT'S NOT FRIVOLOUSLY BEING USED, THEY'RE VERY IDENTIFIABLE PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT THE CITIZENS.

I THINK THE CITIZENS LIKE THAT DIRECTION AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO GO.

IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL TAX, IT'S A TAX WE'RE GOING TO GET ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IT'S JUST EARMARKING THE MONEY FOR THESE PROJECTS.

>> I THINK THE REASON THE TIMELINE WAS PUT ON IT, BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WE BROUGHT IT, HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL THE COMMITTEES AND WHATNOT, FOR GETTING THEM PASSED, THE FIRST TIME IT FAILED.

I THINK THE TIMELINE WAS PUT ON TO CONVINCE THE PEOPLE THAT THERE WAS A TIMELINE TO IT WHICH I THINK THEY BELIEVE NOW. [OVERLAPPING]

>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY JUDICIOUS WITH THE MONEY, DONE SOME OUTSTANDING PROJECTS WITH IT.

I THINK PEOPLE SEE THE PROOF NOW THAT IT'S WELL-WORTH DONE.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[3.D. Discussion of 380 Agreements ( M Hays - 20 min )]

LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3D, PLEASE, [INAUDIBLE].

>> 3D.

DISCUSSION OF 380 AGREEMENTS.

>> WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL HERE RECENTLY ABOUT 380 [INAUDIBLE] AGREEMENTS.

WE GAVE INPUT TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, MICHELLE [INAUDIBLE] AND MICHELLE PULL UP [INAUDIBLE].

[BACKGROUND] I THINK YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS FOR US TO CONSIDER.

>> YES. YOU GAVE ME AN HOUR TO TALK, IS THAT? [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]

>> IF YOU BROUGHT LUNCH.

>> I HAVE 20 MINUTES, BUT THAT SHOULD BE TWO HOURS. [LAUGHTER]

>> HOPEFULLY NOT. I'M GOING TO GRAB A COUPLE OF THESE.

I'LL WRITE DOWN SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, WE GOT TO FOLLOW ALONG.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION, I GUESS IN FEBRUARY, RELATED TO HOW THE FRAMEWORK AND WHAT WE WERE WANTING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

JUST TO REITERATE, OUR CURRENT POLICY FOR THE 380 AGREEMENTS IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THOSE, THE REHABILITATION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES IN THAT LIMITED AREA.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON WHY WE DON'T KEEP THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM, IT'S A GOOD TOOL FOR US TO USE.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT PROGRAM CONTINUE, BUT CREATE A NEW 380 POLICY FOR A MORE GENERIC OR BROAD SENSE WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT PROJECTS THAT COME IN AND REALIZE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE A 380 AGREEMENT.

IT'S NOT OPEN YOU GET ONE AND YOU GET ONE.

>> CAN WE JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT CHAPTER 380 IS AND WHY?

>> CHAPTER 380 IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL WHICH IS-

>> CHAPTER 380 UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

>> UNDER A LOCAL COMPANY, YES, SORRY.

IT ALLOWS COMMUNITIES TO CREATE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

YOU HAVE A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS THAT WANTS TO MEET YOUR COMMUNITY AND THEY NEED TO FILL SOME GAP TO GET THERE.

[01:25:04]

WE NEED TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO CHOOSE GALVESTON VERSUS ANOTHER COMMUNITY.

THIS IS A TOOL THAT WE CAN USE TO INCENTIVIZE BASED ON REBATING MAYBE THE AD VALOREM TAX THAT THEY PAY OR THE SALES TAX THAT THEY ARE PAYING.

PROVIDING WAIVERS FOR PERMANENT VISA OR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT IS A BROAD SENSE.

CHAPTER 380 ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE, AND CHOOSE ONE OR THE OTHER, MULTITUDE OF THOSE OPTIONS AND BE CREATIVE FOR EACH PROJECT.

SO YOU LOOK AT EACH APPROACH ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IN MORE DEVELOPMENT, INCREASE OUR, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE AT REBATING YOUR AD VALOREM OR YOUR SALES TAX, IN THE END, THE CITY SHOULD STILL COME OUT AHEAD.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMING OUT WHOLLY, YOU ARE INCREASING YOUR AD VALOREM OR YOUR SALES TAX.

>> WELL, THEY WILL SET A BASELINE.

>> I'LL SEND THAT.

>> YOU SET A BASELINE. IF YOU'RE COLLECTING $100 A YEAR ON A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WE DO A 380 AGREEMENT ON THAT PROPERTY FOR A REBATE OF PROPERTY TAX, WE'LL CONTINUE TO GET $100 IN YOUR TAXES.

BUT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S INCREASED VALUE, BUT WE WILL REBATE THAT OF THE INCREASED VALUE BACK TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO HELP REIMBURSE HIM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY.

THEN AT THE END OF THE TERM OF THE 380 AGREEMENT, THE CITY WOULD BEGIN GETTING THAT AMOUNT FOREVER AND EVER.

BUT IT'S TO ENCOURAGE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND HELP THEM TO FRAME.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE MINI-TOURS AT THAT POINT.

>> HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO PAY BECAUSE IT COULD BE USED FOR ITS TOURISTS, IT COULD BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS OUR [OVERLAPPING].

>> IT'S NOT UNLIKE WHAT WE DO WITH SOME OF OUR HISTORIC STRUCTURES, AS WELL, WHERE WE ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AND WE ALLOW THAT MONEY TO GO BACK TO HELP THEM REDEVELOP HISTORIC STRUCTURES.

>> IN OUR EFFORTS TO GET GAS ON THE WEST END AND DEVELOPMENT GOING IN AND 380 COULD BE USED IN HELPING THE DEVELOPER PAY FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE LINE [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S RIGHT.

>> YEAH.

>> THE NICE THING ABOUT A 380 IN MY MIND IS THE FLEXIBILITY [OVERLAPPING].

IT IS THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE CITY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TO TAILOR-MADE, TO CUSTOMIZE [NOISE] AN INCENTIVE PACKAGE FOR THE TOURISTS.

>> WE NEED TO FOCUS TOO AS WE LOOK AT THE PARTIES THAT COME IN, THAT BUT-FOR, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT WANT TO JUST EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO DEVELOP IN GALVESTON APPLIES FOR A 380, IT HAS TO MEET SOME CRITERIA, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO AGAIN FILL THAT GAP THAT'S MISSING FOR THEM TO DEVELOP YOUR OPINION.

OTHERWISE, THE DEVELOPMENT WOULDN'T HAPPEN.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KEEP THAT IN THE FOREFRONT AND NOT JUST PROVIDING FOR EVERY PROJECT THAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED OR NOT.

TODAY I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT SOME FRAMEWORK FOR THE POLICY AND PUT UP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TOGETHER BASED UPON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD IN FEBRUARY AND BASED ON OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WITH THOSE OBJECTIVES ARE THERE.

FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WANT TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT WILL ENHANCE THE CITY'S ECONOMIC RATES.

WE WATCH FOR JOBS, IT'D BE GREAT FOR IT TO GROW.

HIGHER PAYING JOBS, SO AT LEAST A MINIMUM WAGE UP, AND THEN INCREASE THE REVENUE OF THE CITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE RESIDENTS, WITHOUT REALLY PUTTING IN A MAJOR BURDEN ON THE CITY WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SO IT NEEDS TO GROW WITH THE CITY.

THE THIRD PAGE, I STARTED WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK THE FIRST TWO PAGES OF THIS HAND OUT ARE KIND OF BACKGROUND, AND I'M GOING TO SKIP OVER [NOISE].

LOOKING AT THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT.

VARIOUS CRITERIA OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT I'D RECOMMEND ARE WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT SOME GEOGRAPHIC AREAS.

WE TALKED ABOUT TARGET INDUSTRIES, SOME LEVEL MINIMUM CAPITAL INVESTMENT, JOB CREATION, AND AGAIN, SOME LIVING WAGE OR HIGHER WAGE SALARY COMPONENT IN THERE.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE PROJECTS HAVE TO HIT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE.

BUT BASED UPON THE TYPE OF PROJECT, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROJECT,

[01:30:05]

WE AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO GO BY.

THIS ONE HAS, AND THIS IS IN THE MARITIME INDUSTRY AND IT'S GOT $250 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND 300 JOBS IT WILL CREATE.

NOW, WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN WORK WITH THERE.

FOR THE GEOGRAPHIC OR STRATEGIC INVESTMENT AREAS, ONES THAT WE'VE HIT UPON QUITE OFTEN, ONE OF WHICH WAS PELICAN ISLAND.

[NOISE] NOW, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND MEET THE PORT AND DISCUSS BECAUSE THE ONLY REAL PROPERTY THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OVER THERE IS WHAT THE 125 OR SO ACRES THAT THE PORT OWNS.

SO I'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND JUST BE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF PROSPECTS WILL BE PREFERRED OUT THERE, SO WE'RE NOT JUST GOING OFF-ROAD AND DOING SOME THINGS WITHOUT THEM BEING A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE WEST MARKET STREET AREA, AND THOSE MAY NOT BE HUGE SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS, THOSE MAY BE SMALLER PROJECTS, BUT WE CAN AGAIN BASE WHAT THAT 380 AGREEMENT LOOKS LIKE WITH THOSE INCENTIVES ARE BASED UPON THE TYPE OF PROJECTS.

WE HAVE AN [INAUDIBLE] THOUGH THEY ARE TWO OR SOMEONE NEEDED A LITTLE HELP AS WE DIDN'T PROTECT THAT AREA.

>> THAT'S A VIBRANT, UP-AND-COMING, GROWING AREA.

IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE INVESTMENT THERE.

>> WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE NORTH BROADWAY AREA AND WHAT COULD BE DONE THERE.

THAT COULD BE, AGAIN, A MENU OF OPTIONS, DO WE WANT TO FOCUS ON SOME MIXED USE OPPORTUNITIES MAYBE SOME COMMERCIAL BOTTOM RESIDENTIAL ON TOP.

THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH, WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT COMING, HOW DOES IT NEED TO FILL AND MAYBE CATALYST FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FROM SOME OF THOSE AREAS.

>> TECHNICALLY, COULDN'T ALSO BE USED LIKE, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT SEWER ON THE WEST END.

THEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT'S WILLING TO PUT IN ADDITIONAL WASTEWATER FACILITY OR SOMETHING YOU COULD USE A 380 AGREEMENT ON THAT.

>> CORRECT.

>> THE PROBLEM WITH THE 380 AGREEMENT IS THAT, THEY DON'T PAY EFFLUENT TAXES ON SEWER USUALLY.

THERE'S NO PERSONAL BUSINESS TAXES THAT THEY'RE PAYING.

>> [OVERLAPPING] BUILDING HOUSES.

YOU'RE PUTTING IN 300,000 [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK THAT WE NEED MORE OF A TARS AND LESS OF A 380.

>>TARS ARE USED FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

IF YOU DEVELOP A SUBDIVISION, ALL THE ROADS, THE UTILITIES THAT YOU WOULD PUT IN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD GET REPAID FROM A TARS.

380 AGREEMENT WOULD BE PROPERTY TAXES ON YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY OR SALES TAX FOR THE PRODUCTS THAT YOU SELL.

I THINK WE COULD TALK ABOUT A TARTS TO DO THAT.

>> I THINK THOUGH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WITHIN THE LANGUAGE, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE QUITE STRAIGHT GRANTS.

[OVERLAPPING] IT'S ALMOST LIKE BEING REIMBURSED BY THE CITY TO TAKE ON THAT ADDITIONAL EXPENSE OF EXPANDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT JUST CREATING A LITTLE EXTENSION FOR THEIR SIZE PROJECT THAT MAYBE THEY ARE MAKING A MUCH LARGER ONE TO HELP.

>> [OVERLAPPING] ADJOURNING NEIGHBORHOODS.

>> OTHER AREAS, INSTEAD THE CITY COULD PAY BACK A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT EXTRA EXPENSE.

>> I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THE TYPE OF INCENTIVE THAT WE PROVIDE HERE.

>> YES.

>> BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITH THESE INCENTIVES THAT YOU HAVE HERE.

SALES TAX ARE MORE IN PERSONAL BUSINESS [INAUDIBLE].

>> WE CAN ADD MAYBE SOME [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

>> BUT WITHIN THE LOCAL WE HAVE RECORDED 380 CHAPTER IS THAT IS THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN THERE?

>> DON'T GET CARRIED UPON THAT.

IT'S JUST A STATUTE THAT GIVES US A METHODOLOGY TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

HOW WE APPROACH IT [OVERLAPPING].

>> IS NOT. [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE LAND WILL RECOVER SOMEWHERE.

>> WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY UNDER THIS [OVERLAPPING] TAXES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SALES TAX AND [NOISE] PROBABLY GRANTS AS A GRANT FOR IT.

>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SOURCE OF REVENUE TO REPAY THE DEVELOPER?

>> YES.

>> THE TWO THINGS THAT WE USE HERE UNDER 380 AGREEMENT ARE SALES TAX, AND EFFLUENT TAX.

>> I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT.

>> TRY TO PAY FOR A SEWER LINE WITH SALES TAX.

>> YOU COULD GO, [OVERLAPPING] I CAN SEE [OVERLAPPING]

[01:35:01]

>> THAT'S ELIMINATED.

>> NOT TALKING ABOUT A STORY, I'M TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO LET HER PLAY HANDS.

THERE WOULD BE WAYS THAT IT CAN BE DONE.

>> YES. THE OTHER IS THROUGH IDC.

WE'VE DONE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, PUT IN SEWER LINES FOR PROJECTS.

WE WERE IDC, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK[OVERLAPPING].

>> TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM, THAT'S WHY COMBINING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE MAKES SO MUCH SENSE BECAUSE THE CITY'S ROLE, REALLY, I MEAN, I'M NOT A POLICY MAKER, BUT MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT I DON'T THINK DOLING OUT CASH TO PEOPLE IS A GOOD THING.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT I THINK THE CITY HELPING PEOPLE WITH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE SO THEY CAN OPEN THEIR BUILDING OR THEY CAN REHABILITATE A BUILDING IN THE CITY CAN HELP THEM WITH SURROUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHERE THE CITY OUGHT TO BE, AND THAT'S GOOD ECONOMIC INCENTIVE.

THAT'S WHY THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY.

HOW WE DO IT, WHETHER WE DO IT THROUGH IDC OR WHETHER WE DO IT THROUGH A 380 AGREEMENT, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OLD CORNER GROCERY STORE OR WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TARTS, WHICH IS FOR A WHOLE NEW DEPARTMENT, [NOISE] THOSE ARE ALL TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX THAT MICHELLE HAS MADE AVAILABLE.

>> YES.

>> YEAH. I GUESS MY POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS, DON'T TRY TO CRAM EVERYTHING INTO A 380 AGREEMENT.

>> NO.

>> [OVERLAPPING] JUST SAYING, HAVE A FLEXIBLE LANGUAGE.

[NOISE] WE HAVE MULTIPLE TOOLS THAT WE COULD WORK FROM.

>> YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. DON'T LIMIT YOUR TOOLBOX.

>> ONCE THE POLICY ACTUALLY GETS WRITTEN UP, I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CATCH-ALL IN THERE WHERE WE'RE NOT JUST LIMITING OURSELVES TO THESE.

>> WILLIAM, YOU HAD A QUESTION?

>> WHEN WE HAVE OUR TARGET INDUSTRY.

I'VE GOT A FALL IN ONE OF THESE SIX BULLETS VERSUS THE [OVERLAPPING].

>> BASICALLY NOT NECESSARILY.

IN MY OPINION, WHEN WE WRITE THIS, WE'LL LOOK AT ANY PROJECT OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT COMES THROUGH.

WE MAY LOOK A LITTLE MORE FAVORABLY ON THE ONES THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GAIN MOMENTUM ON, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR MARITIME INDUSTRY A LITTLE MORE ROBUST AND DO MORE THINGS AT THE AIRPORT.

IF A PROJECT COMES IN IN THAT INDUSTRY, THEN WE MIGHT LOOK MORE FAVORABLE ON THAT TO OTHER PROJECT.

WE HAVE SOME MEGA PROJECT THAT COMES IN, THAT'S JUST TOP THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND IT'S NOT FITTING IN THERE, WE'RE STILL GOING TO LOOK AT IT.

>> HOW COULD HOUSING FIT UNDER A TARGET INDUSTRY?

>> HOUSING COULD IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.

IT'S CERTAINLY DONE IN OTHER AREAS.

>> YOU JUST HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL WHEN YOU DO THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL.

YOU DON'T WANT TO INCENTIVIZE ONE THING TO THE DETRIMENT OF SOMEBODY THAT'S ALREADY DOING IT.

THAT'S WHY THESE THINGS BECOME VERY, I DON'T WANT TO GO INCENTIVIZE A GROCERY STORE TO OPEN UP AND COMPETE AGAINST A GROCERY STORE THAT'S ALREADY OVER HERE.

>> UNDERSTAND.

>> ABSOLUTELY, THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU WOULD PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE IS TO GET SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

HOUSING COULD FALL IN THERE.

REMEMBER, WE DON'T HAVE REALLY WORK FORCE HOUSING HERE.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND SAY, "HEY, I WANT TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE APARTMENT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING THEN THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU LOOKING AT IT TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

>> YEAH [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED THOSE IN CERTAIN GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS.

>> BUT YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE RIGHT DOWN THE BUILDING LIKE IN REDISTRICT BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING IT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [NOISE] YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCENTIVIZE SOMEONE TO PUT AWAY SOME WASTEWATER PLANTS.

[OVERLAPPING] THAT WILL SERVICE MORE THAN ONE SUBDIVISION.

>> OR IF WE NEED TO EXPAND THE PLANT TO ACCOMMODATE A NEW SUBDIVISION THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.

>> MICHELLE, JUST WANT TO PARAPHRASE WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.

YOU'RE PROMOTING HAVING AN ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE IN ADDITION TO OUR CURRENT 380 COORDINATES BECAUSE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS REALLY OPTIMIZED TO HISTORIC STRUCTURES. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> I WAS HAPPY TO SEE HERE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAD IN THE PAST.

YOU HAVE A GOOD MANAGEMENT FOLLOW-UP PROGRAM FOR THESE.

>> YES.

>> THAT'S SO IMPORTANT HERE BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING, I DON'T EVEN THINK WE REALLY KNEW WHAT 380 AGREEMENTS WE HAD OUT THERE.

>> NO.

>> OKAY.

>> YES. WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOME FRAMEWORK IN, WE'LL ATTRACT THESE 380S.

WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME COMPLIANCE CRITERIA, WE'LL MAYBE IN THAT FIRST YEAR WHEN THEY'RE FIRST GETTING OFF THE GROUND.

WE MAY HAVE A SEMI-ANNUAL OR QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE GET FROM THEM JUST TO SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING AND THEN PROBABLY ANNUALLY AFTER THAT.

BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE FULFILLING WITH THEIR SET OF I DO AND THEN THAT ALLOWS ME TO WORK WITH FINANCE TO KNOW,

[01:40:07]

OKAY, THIS IS WHERE THEIR VALUE IS THIS YEAR, THIS IS HOW MUCH THEY PAY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A TAX RECEIPT, THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PAID THEIR TAXES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO REIMBURSE IT OBVIOUSLY, ONCE IT'S [INAUDIBLE].

THEN MR. LOTHIAN WILL THEN BE AWARE OF WHAT HE CAN EXPECT.

>> MARIE HAD A QUESTION, BUT TO FINISH MY QUESTION QUICKLY, WALK US THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS THAT THESE PROJECTS WOULD GO THROUGH.

WHO DOES THAT GO TO FIRST?

>> I WOULD THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME SMALL [INAUDIBLE] THAT WOULDN'T BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

BUT WHETHER IT'S CITY MANAGER OR SOMEONE THAT HE DESIGNATES, WHETHER WE INVOLVE JEFF AT THE GDP, JUST SIT AND HELP REVIEW THESE AND WE'D PROBABLY NEED SOMEONE FROM LEGAL AND FINANCE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT SOME CALCULATIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS FOR THIS PROJECT.

>> WILL THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BE PART OF THIS PROCESS?

>> THEY VERY WELL COULD BE [INAUDIBLE].

>> YEAH, CERTAINLY.

>> I THINK, PERSONALLY, I LIKE HAVING THEM IN THE VETTING PROCESS FROM THE STANDPOINT, THAT'S COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS.

>> YOU BET.

>> THAT'S IMPORTANT.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF GALVESTON.

IF IT DOESN'T BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF GALVESTON, WHY WOULD WE BE INCENTIVIZING THIS? IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEIR INPUT.

>> IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND WHEN THIS DOES COME BACK TO US, IF YOU COULD MAYBE DELINEATE THAT, SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS IS AND WHO'S INVOLVED WITH THAT.

>> YEAH. THE ONE THING WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT IS THERE ARE SOME LEADS THAT WE GET OUR PROSPECTS THAT WE GET IN THAT WANT TO BE A LITTLE CONFIDENTIAL EARLY ON UNTIL THEY'VE FIGURED EVERYTHING OUT.

I KNOW, OF COURSE, WE HAVE OPENED LIKEWISE ON CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THERE ARE SOME ECONOMIC NEGOTIATIONS WHICH CAN STILL BE CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL THE AGREEMENT'S EXECUTED.

WE JUST NEED TO SEE HOW THAT MAY WORK WITH HAVING THE [INAUDIBLE] INVOLVED.

>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. MARIE?

>> I'M JUST LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE CRITERION, SO FOR, LOOKING AT THIS ONE THAT'S RIGHT HERE, 3-5 YEARS, MINIMUM OF 40 JOBS.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BIOTECH AND TECHNOLOGY, TRANSFER WOULD BE VERY RARE TO HAVE FOR THE JOBS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THEY WILL THEN CUT OFF TO THE NEXT PAGE, AND THESE ARE JUST PARAMETERS AND SO MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO FALL UNDER OVER 50 MILLION AND 100 JOBS.

>> NO. [OVERLAPPING] I THINK IT'S THE OPPOSITE.

THEY COULD BE OVER 100 MILLION AND ONLY HAVE 15 EMPLOYEES.

>> LET ME BACK UP BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I MADE IT CLEAR. THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO FOLLOW, BUT IT'S OKAY IF IT'S LESS THAN 20 MILLION.

>> NUMBER 1, I'M SAYING IS AND HAVING WORKED IN THE BIOTECH INDUSTRY, IT'S VERY COMMON TO HAVE 15 EMPLOYEES AND YOU COULD BE TURN INTO A HUGE COMPANY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> RIGHT.

>> COULD YOU CALL THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING A COMPANY WE WILL WANT TO WORK WITH.

BUT WHEN WE PUT LIMITATIONS OF THE NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE TO CHECK OFF EVERY BOX.

IT COULD BE THIS IS THEIR INVESTMENT, NO, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT JOB CREATION, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE WAGE, THAT WAS SELLERS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO FILL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, BUT THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE CRITERIA, SO ARE THEY.

>> I'M JUST DON'T WANT TO [INAUDIBLE].

>> RIGHT. THAT'S GOOD. YES.

>> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS FOR MICHELLE ON THIS COUNSEL? MICHELLE, WHAT'S YOUR NEXT STEP? HOW DO YOU SEE THIS UNFOLDING AS WE COME BACK TO FORMALIZE THIS?

>> I KNOW I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BEVERLY ALREADY ON SOME OF THE LANGUAGE AND WE WILL COME BACK WITH AN UPDATED ORDINANCE.

WE'LL WORK WITH FINANCE TO LEARN TWEAKS ON THIS PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AND COME UP WITH SOME EXAMPLES AS WELL FOR THE NEXT STEP.

WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT READY FOR NEXT MEETING OR THE FOLLOWING.

>> DO YOU NEED ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON THIS [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD WORKSHOP BEFORE GOING.

>> IF YOU ALL FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS DIRECTION THEN WE CAN MAYBE COME BACK WITH THE RIGHT MEASURES FOR SOME ACTION.

>> PERSONALLY, COUNSEL, I'M FINE TO WORKSHOP THIS POSSIBLY AND VOTE THE SAME DAY.

IF COUNCIL FELT COMFORTABLE NEXT MONTH. BEVERLY IS STILL ON.

>> IF THERE IS NO ISSUE, THE NEWEST ON THE BOARD HERE,

[01:45:02]

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT YOUR DISTRICT IN A BIG WAY.

>> WELL, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND CHANGE IT FROM JUST BEING HISTORIC BUILDINGS, CORRECT?

>> YES. THAT'S ONE SEPARATE PROGRAM.

>> OKAY. TWO OTHER QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO SPEAK BUT MARIE SPOKE ON THAT.

THAT JOB CREATION SEEMS AWFULLY HIGH WITHIN THAT AREA THAT'S ON THIS PAPER.

THAT'S A LOT OF JOBS, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THEN THIRDLY, WHEN DO YOU PUT THESE OTHER GEOGRAPHIC AREAS? ARE THEY INCLUSIVE OF IT RIGHT NOW? I SEE YOU SAYING WESTERN MARKET STREET AND NORTHERN BROADWAY.

ONE TIME, I THINK I ASKED IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXTEND IT A BIT LESS ON THE MARKET STREET.

ARE THOSE LOCATIONS GOING TO BE NOW OR IS THIS A FUTURE PLAN?

>> THEY'LL BE INCORPORATED. WHAT I IN-VISIONED IS THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE WRITTEN IN THE POLICY WILL BE WRITTEN OR IT WILL REFER TO SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIMIT IT TO THAT.

AGAIN, THERE'LL BE LANGUAGE THAT WILL SAY WE MAY GIVE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION IF THEY'RE FALLING HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO OVERLOOK ANYTHING ELSE IF IT'S A GOOD PROJECT THAT FULFILLS WHAT OUR OBJECTIVES ARE [INAUDIBLE]

>> DO YOU DO LIKE IT SAYS, CURRENT PROGRAM, AND IT HAS A LIMITED AREA. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S OUR CURRENT ONE.

>> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] FOR THE FUTURE WE ADDING? OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

>> WHY SHOULD WE EXCLUDE THE NEED PART OF THE ACTION?

>> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD.

>> RIGHT. WE'LL LOOK MORE FAVORABLY AT THESE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO FULFILL SOMETHING THAT WE'RE AT.

>> I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU'VE SEEN THE AREA THAT'S BY COLLEGE STATION AND BRING IT WHERE THEY DID A WHOLE LIVING, WORKING BIOTECH RESEARCH COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE COULD WALK TO THEIR JOB.

THEY HAVE HOTELS, THEY HAVE RESTAURANTS, AND IT'S A REALLY COOL DEVELOPMENT.

WE WOULDN'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES.

>> RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MS. LEWIS SAID BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP YOUR DISTRICT.

>> I KNOW SHARON, OF COURSE, BRIAN, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER, MICHELLE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO YOU PERHAPS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT.

>> I WANT TO THANK MICHELLE. SHE'S TAKEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL FOR YOU.

SHE'S REALLY GETTING IT ORGANIZED AND GETTING THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> SHE'S THE MOST ORGANIZED WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANKS, MICHELLE. [LAUGHTER].

>> I'M 3E PLEASE, JANELLE.

[3.E. Update of Juneteenth activities and committee (Lewis/Brown - 15 min)]

>> UPDATE ON JUNETEENTH ACTIVITIES AND COMMITTEE.

>> TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LOUIS,

>> WELL, LET'S SEE.

WE WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A WEB PAGE OUT THERE, VISIT GALVESTON.

EXPERT HAS DEVELOPED THE WEB PAGE WITH ALL THE JUNETEENTH EVENTS ON THERE.

IF YOU WANT TO, GO THERE AND YOU CAN SEE EVERY EVENT THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE ARE JUST DELIGHTED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE CITY, A JUNETEENTH ALLIANCE.

WITHIN THAT ARENA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUE JOHNSON FROM THE NEA CULTURAL CENTER, AND ALL OF THESE ACTIVITIES ARE LISTED ON THERE.

REEDY CHAPEL AME, PASTOR PATTERSON.

OLD CENTRAL CULTURAL CENTER, THAT WILL BE PEAK HANLEY.

THE SCHOLARSHIP GALA, MS. DOROTHY BROWN.

FESTIVAL EVENT, MS. LUANDA [INAUDIBLE].

PARADE CHAIR IS MS. CHAVEZ.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALEX THOMAS FROM VISIT GALVESTON, SO YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH AND SEE THE SITE AND SEE THE ACTIVITIES.

>> [INAUDIBLE], WHO ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH ON THE PARADE THIS YEAR?

>> YES.

>> AWESOME.

>> YES.

>> AWESOME.

>> WE KNOW THAT THE HISTORICAL FOUNDATION IS PRESENTING AN EXHIBIT, JUNETEENTH EXHIBIT, WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PEEP IT YET BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT QUITE FINISHED.

BUT THE COMPANY IS OUT IN NEW ZEALAND IS ORGANIZING AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE INTERACTIVE.

WE ALSO HAVE A TREY CLICK FROM DOWNTOWN GALVESTON WHO'S WORKING WITH US.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND WITH A LITTLE BANNERS THAT ACKNOWLEDGES JUNETEENTH AS PART OF GALVESTON'S HISTORY.

THE GALVESTON COLLEGE PRESIDENT, MYLES SHELTON SPOKE WITH HIM AND HE'S ONBOARD WITH ONE BIG ALLIANCE WHERE WE CAN ALL UNDER ONE UMBRELLA,

[01:50:05]

COME TOGETHER, DISCUSS THIS PART OF HISTORY THAT IS JUST CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION LOCATION IS HERE.

IT'S THE BIRTHPLACE.

I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME GREAT ACTIVITIES.

THE LAST MAJOR ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MAUREEN PATTON AT THE OPERA HOUSE.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR TWO MAJOR EVENTS: ONE FRIDAY THE 17TH, AND THEN ONE JUNE, THE NIGHT OF JUNETEENTH AT THE OPERA HOUSE.

ALONG WITH ALL OTHER ACTIVITIES, FAMILY ORIENTED AND NEO-CULTURAL IS ALL ABOUT EDUCATION SO THAT'S A HUGE COMPONENT.

>> IF I MAY, THIS IS SUCH A GREAT THING IN WHAT YOU'VE DONE MRS. LOUIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE AND YOU'VE BROUGHT ALL THE PARTIES TOGETHER INTO THIS ONE ORGANIZATION, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE IT FORWARD.

BEFORE IT WAS SO FRAGMENTED, IT WAS SO DIFFICULT TO GET IT GOING.

IT'S QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. I'M IMPRESSED.

>> REALLY WANT TO SAY, BUT I WANT TO SAY YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME IN THE COMMUNITY, AND SHARON AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHE HAS PUT OUT SOME EFFORT AND BROUGHT TOGETHER ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS, WHICH DOES NOTHING BUT BENEFIT JUNETEENTH, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE ON OUR ISLAND, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE, AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.

SHARON, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR IDEAS.

>> I'D GIVE YOU A STANDING OVATION.

>> YOUR VERY WELCOME. THEN ALSO TOWARDS THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF JUNE, THERE'LL BE ACTIVITIES, POETRY NIGHT AND ALL THAT, SO JUST PLEASE LOOK AT THE WEBPAGE, AND THEN THAT'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED.

INVITE YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS, AND LET'S CELEBRATE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THE RAILROAD MUSEUM SPOKE AT MY ROTARY YESTERDAY, AND THEY HAVE TWO OF THE TRAINS FROM THE FREEDOM TOUR THAT THEY'RE REFURBISHING SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET.

THEY'RE HAVING A WHOLE THING WHERE THEY'RE PAINTING THEIR CARS. [INAUDIBLE]

>> DID YOU KNOW IF I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IF YOU KNEW DAVID ROBERTSON? WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT INTRODUCTION.

>> THANKS.

>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER GREAT PARTNER TO BRING IN THERE.

>> OKAY, GREAT.

>> BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS AMAZING.

>> IT IS. YOU'VE PROBABLY MOVED THIS FORWARD 20 YEARS IN A MONTH. IT'S FABULOUS.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT MADE IT A HOLIDAY LAST YEAR NOW.

>> THANK YOU.

>> [OVERLAPPING] ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT SHARE.

>> WELL, WE KNOW WE'RE COMING TO THE END BECAUSE DAVID'S [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].

[3.F. Report of City Council's Park Board Representative (Collins/Brown - 10 minutes)]

>> CITY COUNCIL'S PARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVE.

>> TWO OR THREE THINGS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN STURBRIDGE'S STILL CLOSED, THE GRAY GRAZING ON THE BEACHES IS STILL GOING ON AND STARTING TO LOOK PRETTY GOOD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE IS ABOUT.

>> I JUST [LAUGHTER]

>> BUT IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING.

WE HAD A LITTLE TEST STORM THE OTHER DAY [OVERLAPPING] TO SEE HOW THOSE ARE WORKING, AND THE SOILS ARE WORKING SO FAR.

WE'RE A LONG WAY FROM FINISHING THAT.

WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT DONE BY MEMORIAL DAY SO THAT WE CAN GET THE MOBILE AMENITIES OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET.

>> DO YOU THINK WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO [INAUDIBLE] MEMORIAL DAY.

>> IT'S NOT MY PROJECT SO I CAN'T TELL YOU.

I THINK IT WILL BE.

>> IT'S A SHAME THAT WE'VE GOT STEWART BEACH CLOSED FOR SPRING BREAK AND POSSIBLY MEMORIAL DAY THAT'S A LOT OF [INAUDIBLE].

>> STEWART BEACH IS USUALLY CLOSED [INAUDIBLE].

>> NO. [OVERLAPPING] IT'S OPEN.

THE VENDORS DON'T COME OUT A LITTLE EARLY.

BUT IT IS UNFORTUNATE WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE STREET TO REPAVE IT TOO.

BUT SOMETIMES WE JUST DO.

YOU WANT TO DO THAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO CLOSE IT FOR THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S NO WAY TO DO PIECEMEAL.

ANYWAY THAT'S GOING ON.

THE STEWART BEACH AD HOC COMMITTEE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED [OVERLAPPING].

[INAUDIBLE] GET A QUARTER INCH. I GOT TWO AND A QUARTER INCHES AWAY.

>> QUARTER INCHES AWAY.

[LAUGHTER] THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS MEETING FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING HERE AGAIN ON THE 6TH OF MAY.

WE HAD HOPED TO HAVE SOME MORE CONCRETE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL AND PARK BOARD BY THIS TIME BUT WE STILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT DIVISION ON THE COMMITTEE HERE, WHETHER TO TREAT STEWART BEACH AS A BEACH PARK OR AS A [INAUDIBLE]?

>> I'M SEEING A SMILE.

[LAUGHTER] I WANTED TO LIVE UP TO HIS POTENTIAL.

[01:55:15]

AT PARK BOARD, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH HOTEL DEVELOPERS OVER THERE, AND WE REALLY NEED TO GET VERY FAR DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE WE RAN INTO SOME SERIOUS ROADBLOCKS.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS ASK JEFFREY SJOSTROM, GDP.

WE DID THIS THE LAST MEETING TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT BEACH COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND FIND SOME PLACES WHERE THEY HAD SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT BOTH ENHANCED THE BEACH AND PROVIDED REVENUE STREAMS FOR MAINTENANCE, AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE BEACH, SO HE'LL BE REPORTING BACK TO US ON THAT ON THE 6TH.

HOPEFULLY AT THE MAY MEETING, I'LL HAVE SOME MORE BETTER INFORMATION, I HOPE.

HE AND I ARE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT IT TOMORROW TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE A LITTLE SENSE OF WHAT HE'S DISCOVERED, BUT I DON'T KNOW TODAY WHAT HE HAS LEARNED.

>> THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. VERY GOOD TO HEAR.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> WELL, YOU MAY ALSO KNOW IF YOU READ THE NEWSPAPER, WE'RE DISCUSSING CHIEF PETER DAVIDSON.

THE CHIEF BEACH PATROL IS DOING A REAL GOOD JOB OF PROMOTING THE NOTION OF BUILDING A BUILDING DOWN THERE.

WE'RE STILL IN THAT CONVERSATION TOO.

WE'RE LIKELY [NOISE] TO GO FORWARD IN PARK BOARD NEXT MONTH TO ALLOW HIM TO DO SOME PROGRAMMING AND DEVELOPMENT, DO SOME DESIGN WORK.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT BUILDING WOULD GO.

PUTTING IT IN STEWART BEACH MAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SENSE, PUTTING IT ON THE SAND WE'RE NOT SO SURE ABOUT. PETER'S SURE ABOUT IT.

[LAUGHTER] PETER'S REALLY SURE ABOUT IT, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY STEWART BEACH IS CITY PROPERTY, SO ANY OF THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL COME BACK HERE.

BUT I THINK WE WANTED TO GIVE PETER THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESENTABLE PICTURE OF WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR, NOT JUST DESCRIBE IT TO YOU, BUT TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.

>> IN ONE OF THOSE LINES I'VE MET WITH KELLY.

MY SON LOSE TRACK OF TIME LAST WEEK.

SHE AND I MET FOR THE EXPLICIT PURPOSE OF TALKING AND BRAINSTORMING ABOUT SEAWOLF PARK.

THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME REALLY COOL THINGS COMING I THINK FOR SEAWOLF PARK.

I REALLY APPRECIATE KELLY, EARLY ON GETTING US INVOLVED IN IT, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A REALLY GREAT PROJECT.

I KNOW MAUREEN MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT OF IT TO A GENTLEMEN FROM THE PORT OF HOUSTON THE OTHER DAY, AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY AT SEAWOLF PARK.

IT'S TRULY A BLANK CANVAS OVER THERE.

>> THERE HAS NOT BEEN FRONT BURNER, BUT WE HAVE SOME GREAT DESIGNS OVER THERE THAT REALLY ENHANCE THE PARK BECAUSE THAT PARK CAN BE A MONEYMAKER.

>> YES.

>> FLOUNDER SEASON, THAT'S THE [LAUGHTER] BIGGEST [INAUDIBLE].

>> IT'S NOT JUST A MONEYMAKER. IT CAN BE A GREAT BENEFIT.

>> IT IS A GREAT BENEFIT FOR EVERYBODY BUT THE LOCAL FISHERMEN USE IT EXTENSIVELY.

>> OH MY GOD.

>> OUT THERE.

>> WATER TAXIS OVER THERE.

>> THE WATER TAXI BECAUSE THE LINE OF VISUAL FROM THE HISTORICAL FOUNDATIONS GOT SOME GREAT PLANS FOR THAT AND SAY.

>> [OVERLAPPING] COOL STUFF.

>> THEY HAVE DONE SOME COOL THINGS AT THE NAVAL MUSEUM OVER THERE.

THAT'S WORTH SEEING, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FURTHERING THAT. THERE'S A LOT DEVELOPMENT.

>> IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES ON ONE OF THESE PROJECTS I FEEL LIKE WE'RE AHEAD OF IT, AND IT'S REALLY LOOKING GOOD.

>> WORKING TOGETHER REALLY WELL.

>> KELLY AND I ARE GETTING ALONG GREAT ON THIS PROJECT. IT'S GOING TO BE WONDERFUL.

>> SHE'S A GOOD PARTNER.

>> THANK YOU, DAVID.

>> [INAUDIBLE] GOING ON, THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

BEFORE WE ADJOURN COUNCIL, WE HAVE A PHOTO SESSION THIS AFTERNOON FOR WHAT TIME? [INAUDIBLE].

>> 4:30.

>> 4:30.

>> AT THE CHAMBERS.

>> IN THE CHAMBERS FOR PHOTO SESSION.

I GUESS YOU TUCK SHIRTS, CUTS MEN.

>> IS HE TALKING TO ME OR YOU? [LAUGHTER].

>> I [INAUDIBLE] COMPLIMENTED, WILLIAM ON HIS HAIR TODAY LOOKS VERY PROUD.

>> WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET. [LAUGHTER].

>> WILLIAM'S GOT A [OVERLAPPING].

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS. GOOD DISCUSSION TODAY, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

>> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.