[3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (20 Minutes)]

WE'RE DEFERRING ITEM 3G AND 3E, AND LET'S MOVE NOW TO ITEM 3A.

3A, PRESENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR AGENDA.

COUNCIL ON THE REGULAR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON ITEM 11 P, AS IN PAUL, WILL BE DEFERRED.

AND ON ITEM 10B AS IN BOY, THAT IS A RESOLUTION ADDRESSING THE EXTINCTION POSSIBILITY OF THAT OF OUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS FOR COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS, THAT HAS BEEN THE WORDING OF THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED.

AND YOU HAVE AT YOUR TABLE HERE A NEW VERSION OF THAT RESOLUTION FOR 10B.

SO PRIOR TO OUR MEETING THIS AFTERNOON, IF YOU WOULD LOOK THAT OVER, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES IN THAT.

AND I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT AND THE START WITH OUR CLARIFICATION OF ITEMS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP WITH COUNCILWOMAN LOUIS.

SHERRY, [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW.

SURELY.

COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER, RON REAL QUICK 11Z WITH THE RENTAL OF A GARBAGE TRUCK FOR JUST THE LAST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

I'LL READ IT TO YOU AND EXPLAIN IT.

PLEASE READ THE GARBAGE TRUCKS, THE RENTAL, AND THIS STEMS JUST SOME BACKGROUND.

THIS STEMS FROM THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T GET OUR NEW TRUCKS.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT TWO OR THREE ON ORDER RIGHT NOW.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY FINANCING THE REST OF THE FLEET.

AND THE ONLY REASON WE NEED TO ACCELERATE THIS IS BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT EIGHT TO 12 MONTH TIMELINES ON THESE TRUCKS AS OPPOSED TO THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

I'M SORRY, I GET YOU MORE.

IS IT A SURPRISE TO GET IT OR IS IT A MECHANICAL ISSUE THAT WE'RE SEEING? OK, PUSH THE TRUCKS BACK.

WE'RE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATING WITH THE RENTAL COMPANY TO GIVE US A HEAVY DISCOUNT ON THESE RENTAL PAYMENTS TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE TRUCK.

BUT OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE TO GET THE CEO APPROVED AND THE CASH IN THE BANK BEFORE WE COULD AUTHORIZE THAT KIND OF TRANSACTION.

YOU'VE HAD THE TRUCKS IN SERVICE IN WHAT, THREE MONTHS? YES, IT'S OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.

A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THERE ARE SOME OUT OF SERVICE? YEAH. I MEAN, WE TYPICALLY BUY TWO NEW GARBAGE TRUCKS A YEAR, BUT WITH THE HEAVY DEBRIS MOVE AND EVERYTHING WE HAD AFTER THE THREE STORM SAGA AND THEN THE FREEZE, WE ROASTED SEVERAL OF OUR BIG TRUCKS AND WE CAN'T NOW WE CAN'T GET THEM WE'VE FALLEN SO FAR BEHIND WHERE WE CAN'T EVEN GET THEM. I'M A YEAR BEHIND ON THE LAST TWO.

AND IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER TWO.

SO WE JUST NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PROBABLY BY ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT ONLY GET CAUGHT UP BECAUSE WE'RE. WE CAN'T GET THEM IN THE WORST PART IS THEY CAN'T EVEN GET PARTS TO FIX THE ONES WE HAVE, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU DRIVE A CAR LOT AND MOST OF THEM ARE ALL A GARBAGE TRUCK.

YEAH. SO IMAGINE THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SOME OF THESE ONES WE'VE RENTED, THEY'RE SUPER BIG TRUCKS AND WE'RE ABLE TO RUN WHOLE ROUTES WITHOUT HAVING TO DIP AND GO TO THE TRANSFER STATION AND GO BACK OUT.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES I SEE ZIPPING THROUGH THEIR DISTRICTS ON THE WESTERN.

YEAH, YEAH. HELP US ON THE WEST END BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE TRUCKS OUT FURTHER AND DO A BETTER JOB. WE'RE GETTING THE BIGGER TRUCKS WELL, ONCE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE ONES WE'RE GOING TO BUY, SUPER BIG TRUCKS, THEY'RE BIG.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T USE THEM ON THE EAST END BECAUSE THEY GET WEDGED IN.

THAT'S THE ONES WITH THE LONGER LEAD TIMES AND ONE OF THE SMALLER TRUCKS.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE RIGHT NOW AND I SAID, WELL, IF WE ORDERED ONE A COUPLE OF MONTHS, WHEN COULD WE GET IT? SO I CAN GET IT TO YOU BY JUNE OF 2023, YOU KNOW.

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SO THAT'S THE ONES WE'RE GETTING THOSE REHAB RIGHT NOW, JUST IN ANTICIPATION OF SPRING AND THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN WE START SEEING OUR SERVICE LEVELS RISE TO THE HIGHEST LEVELS.

HE'S GETTING ALL OF THOSE REHAB AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RIDE THOSE SMALLER TRUCKS FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER COUPLE OF SEASONS.

IT'S LOOKING LIKE AT THIS POINT.

YEAH, YEAH. BUT WE'RE IN THIS BOAT.

POLICE CARS, FIRE TRUCKS.

I'M WAITING RIGHT NOW ON EITHER 10 OR 11 POLICE CARS.

I'M WAITING ON TWO POPPERS AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET AN AERIAL TODAY.

WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF ACCELERATING THE ACTUAL PURCHASE, BUT WE KNOW THE DELIVERY WILL BE ABOUT WHEN WE NEED IT BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T GET THEM.

WE'RE POSITIONED TO BE IN.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HAD IN MY DISTRICT, UM, IT'S A COMBINATION OF NOT HAVING TRUCKS IN COVID THAT ARE DELAYING HEAVY TRASH PICK UP.

A LOT OF IT IS. YES.

OKAY. THEY'RE RUNNING PARALLEL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TRUCK, BUT IT'S KIND OF WORKING OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY DRIVE ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THAT'S IT.

I'M SORRY. NO, I HAD ONE MORE ITEM.

I THINK IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, SO WE'LL GET TO IT JUST MORE SO IT'S MORE FROM CATHERINE'S DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THEY SEE IN THE ABANDONMENT OF THAT ALLEY.

JUST, I KNOW IT'S COME TO COUNCIL BEFORE, NOW I'M SEEING IT AGAIN.

AND MY QUESTION IS KIND OF A I GUESS IT PREDATES OUR LDR'S IN TWENTY FIFTEEN.

SO I LOOK UP THAT PROPERTY ON THE CAD AND NORTHERN SECTION IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, BUT I TAKE IT IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL ON OUR LDR'S.

BUT YOU KNOW, IS THAT JUST THE LAG THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN? AT ONE POINT IT WAS OWN COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE LDR'S COME OUT OF THE ZONE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A CONSERVATION NEIGHBORHOOD.

MM HMM. SO IS THAT JUST A LAG BETWEEN THE CAD AND THE YARDS BEING UPDATED TO WHERE YOU SEE IT AS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M SORRY. I BELIEVE WHAT YOU MIGHT BE SEEING WITH THE CAD IS THEY HAD THAT USE ALLOCATION IN THERE.

WHEN YOU LOOK UP A PROPERTY DOESN'T NECESSARILY CORRESPOND TO ZONING, THOUGH.

OKAY. SO IN 2015, WHEN IT WAS ON BACK TO FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL ON NORTH HALF THAT, THAT'S THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE LEGAL, LEGITIMATE ZONING OF IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ARGUE THAT IT PERHAPS SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL, BUT ANYHOW, THAT'S FOR A DIFFERENT FATE. OKAY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

SO THE FIRST WOULD BE THE ABANDONMENT THAT I ASSUME IN A MONTH OR TWO THE REQUEST WILL COME FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING OR WE ACTUALLY HAVE A HUD REQUEST, RIGHT? SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT UNLESS THEY WITHDRAW THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD BE SEEING THAT NEXT MONTH. OKAY, THANK YOU.

I HAVEN'T I WAS JUST GOING TO FOR BILL'S EXPLANATION.

SO WHEN THE LDR'S HAPPENED, A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT WERE IN COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL WHERE BLANKETLY CHANGED TO RESIDENTIAL ONE.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY IT WASN'T SO MUCH THAT THEY LOOKED AT WHAT THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY WAS.

THEY JUST WENT IN AND SAID, LIKE IN MY DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY, IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL ONE.

EVEN THOUGH, LIKE SEVEN STATES, GROCERY STORE WAS ZONED RESIDENTIAL ONE AND BUILDING.

YEAH. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE ADDRESS OVER TIME AS IT COMES OUT BECAUSE YOU BRING A BUNCH OF POINTS OF INTEREST TO PROPERTY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT ONE TIME IT WAS RESIDENTIAL ON IT WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

IT SEEMS LIKE I REMEMBER THERE BEING LIKE A THREE OR FOUR STORY BUILDING.

SO THEN I THINK IN THE FORTIES, SOME KIND OF SINGLE FAMILY SHOTGUN STYLE HOUSE HOUSES.

MAYBE I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON GOOGLE HISTORY.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN YOU ABANDONED, IT GOES TO COMMERCIALLY, YOU'RE STONE THROW AWAY FROM PEOPLE LIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE DEBATE.

YOU KNOW, JUST HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THAT.

SO THAT'S MY QUESTION.

AND I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENTION OF THE HDDV TO PROVIDE THAT SORT OF TRANSITIONAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR LOW DENSITY UP TO IT.

AND IN THE LDRS IT WENT THE OTHER WAY, TOO, WE TOOK SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WERE COMMERCIAL. WELL, THAT WERE RESIDENTIAL WENT INTO COMMERCIAL TOO.

WE KIND OF MOVE BACK AND FORTH ON THAT AND SOMETIMES A QUESTION ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, THOUGH THAT 8B, IT SAYS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE TO MOVE.

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THE UTILITIES THAT ARE IN THAT ALLEYWAY BEFORE THIS ABANDONMENT IS COMPLETE ARE THE UTILITIES THERE. THAT'S A BIG PROJECT.

IS THAT YES, YES, THERE ARE.

THERE'S IT'S THERE'S SOME OVERHEAD UTILITIES AND I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME ALSO SOME UNDERGROUND THAT HAS TO BE MOVED.

THAT'S ALWAYS AT THE COST OF THE APPLICANT.

OKAY, AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF THIS WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO BE DONE PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TO OUR SATISFACTION.

ALL RIGHT, RIGHT. YOU CAN IMPROVE THE ABANDONMENT AS AS AN ACT, IF YOU WOULD SO DESIRE.

BUT WE WOULDN'T ACTUALLY RECORD THE DEEDS UNTIL WHATEVER FORMAT UNTIL THAT'S DONE, CORRECT? YES.

ARE WE CHARGING THEM FOR THIS? YES. [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD. YES, JOHN.

JIM, WE'VE SEEN THIS PROPERTY COME BEFORE US SEVERAL TIMES NOW.

WE APPROVED ABANDONMENT OF THE SAME PROPERTY A WHILE BACK.

OF COURSE, THE CONTRACT FELL THROUGH, AND SO THE ABANDONMENT DIDN'T GET FILED.

WHEN WE SEE PROJECTS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE PROPERTY.

IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD GET THESE TO COME THROUGH AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE PUD AND THE ABANDONMENT? I MEAN, BECAUSE BECAUSE AND THE REASON I ASK THIS IS BECAUSE I HATE TO GO AND ABANDONED AN ALLEYWAY LIKE THIS AND THEN THE PROJECT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

WE DON'T LIKE THE PUD, WE DON'T APPROVE THE PUD.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO AN AMENDMENT WITHOUT A PROJECT AND JUST THE STREETS AREN'T USED ANYMORE, AND IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ABANDON IT THAN KEEP IT.

MAYBE, MAYBE THAT PROCESS DOESN'T NEED IT.

FOLLOW MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

BUT IN A PROPERTY LIKE THIS WHERE WE'VE SEEN IT SEVERAL TIMES AND THE DEVELOPMENT HAS NOT COME TO FRUITION, IS THERE IS THERE SOME KIND OF SEQUENTIAL PROCESS OR PARALLEL PATH THAT THIS CAN TAKE? I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY CAN BE.

YES, SIR. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU TAKE ACTION ON THE PUD, WHICH SHOULD BE EITHER NEXT MONTH OR WE DO HAVE A SUBMITTED PROJECT, SO.

RIGHT, YOU MADE A GREAT POINT.

TYPICALLY, A LOT OF THESE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, NECESSARILY. THIS ONE DOES.

IT'S A VERY VALUABLE PROBABLY ONE OF THE LAST LARGER CHUNKS RIGHT ON THE SEAWALL THERE.

AND FOLKS DO THIS WITH A PROJECT IN MIND.

SO THERE IS A PROJECT IN MIND, AND IT'S YOUR CALL AS TO IF YOU'D LIKE TO DEFER THIS UNTIL NOBODY THINKS THEY MAY WANT THAT ABANDONED, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PROJECT GOES THERE BECAUSE IT JUST COMBINE THEIR TWO PARCELS TOGETHER.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THERE MIGHT BE A PROJECT THAT I'M ALL IN FAVOR FOR.

AS FOR THE HUD, BUT THERE MIGHT BE A PROJECT THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR FOR, AND ONCE WE ONCE WE ABANDONED THE PROPERTY, IT IS NOT OUR PROPERTY ANYMORE.

RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH IT.

AND THAT'S A THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT, JOHN.

YEAH. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH PLANNING, I TOLD THE APPLICANT THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING THERE WHEN IT CAME TO COUNCIL.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD DEVELOPMENT PLAN THERE, WHICH I HAVEN'T SEEN BUT JUST RECENTLY SUBMITTED.

SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE TO TO DEFER THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING THAN WE COULD PROMISE BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME OR BOTH OF THE SAME TIME.

OK. I RECALL WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT ABOUT CONSIDERING WHY SOMEBODY WANTED WHAT THEY WANTED TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR BEFORE WE CONSIDER THAT.

RIGHT, SO SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE ARE WILLING TO ABANDON A PROPERTY THAT WE NO LONGER NEED THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE LANDOWNER WANTS THAT EASEMENT BACK PRIOR TO KNOWING WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO WITH IT, BECAUSE PRESUMABLY THEY COULD ONLY DO SOMETHING LEGAL WITH IT, SOMETHING THAT FITS THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH.

BUT AT WHAT POINT DO WE SAY, NO, I DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH IT, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO LAND THE PROPERTY OR I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT LOOKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT ARE WE ARE WE ALL OUT OF BOUNDS BY ASKING THAT QUESTION? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT BEFORE WE DECIDE TO ABANDON? I MEAN, MY MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE'RE NOT.

I MEAN, IF IF IT IS A PROJECT THAT BENEFITS THE PUBLIC AND WE CAN SEE A VALUE DOWN THE

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ROAD, I THINK WE WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ABANDONMENT.

BUT IF IT'S A PROJECT THAT HAS NO BENEFIT TO THE CITY, I MEAN, IT'S A CITY RIGHT OF WAY AND THE CITY OWNS IT.

AND IF THEY WANT TO KEEP IT THERE, WE KEEP IT.

QUESTION ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING BETTER WITH IT THAN WE'RE DOING WITH IT? OR ARE YOU? YEAH, BASICALLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY SAYS YOU'RE NOT USING IT.

BUT EVERY TIME I LOOK AT ONE OF THESE AMENDMENTS, I THINK WE'RE NOT USING IT RIGHT NOW.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT EVER GOING TO OCCASIONALLY HAVE THOSE DEAD END ALLEYS AND SO FORTH. YOU CANNOT CONTEMPLATE US EVER, EVER USING IT.

SURE. THROUGH THE THROUGH RIGHT OF WAY WE MIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND THIS IS AN ALLEY AND IT'S IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS BIG OF A DEAL, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN OTHER EXAMPLES IN THE CITY WHERE THEY WANT TO CLOSE A STREET.

I THINK WHERE WAS IT? I THINK WE GOT SOMETHING THAT PASSED ON MAYBE 19TH STREET OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, SOMEBODY WANTING TO CLOSE THE STREET TO PUT IN A CHILI'S.

THIS IS YEARS YEARS AGO, AND COUNCIL AT THAT TIME DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE PROPERTY COUNCIL'S NEVER YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY COMPELLED TO ABANDON PROPERTY, RIGHT? IT'S NOW IN THIS CASE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN AN ABANDONMENT REQUEST AND IT WAS PASSED.

SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER TO I MEAN, THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE ABANDONING IT FOR OUR BETTER USE OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S JUST THE PRINCIPLE EFFECT. THIS IS THIS IS A NEEDED PARCEL.

SO IS THIS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO TO SHED SOME PROPERTY THAT IT DOESN'T NEED? YEAH. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I WOULD THINK THOUGH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, GIVEN THE WAY THE UTILITIES IN THERE, THAT THEY WOULD NEVER COMPLETE THE ABANDONMENT IF THEY DON'T THINK THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO COME BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO PUT IN THERE TO ABANDON THIS. ABSENT THAT, THAT'S ONE THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT CASE IN THIS.

AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO ABANDON THE UTILITIES FOR THOSE UTILITIES.

YEAH, THERE'S EVEN BETTER IN THIS CASE COME IN.

DID THE PUD APPLICATION COME IN WITH THE ABANDONMENT? NO, IT CAME IN SEPARATE.

OK. WHAT WAS THE I WANT TO SAY ABOUT A MONTH APART? OK. YEAH. SO WE SAW THIS AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'LL SEE THE PUD AT THE UPCOMING YES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

AND I MEAN, I'M PROBABLY BRINGING THIS UP KIND OF OUT OF LINE ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I THINK FROM WHAT I SEE THERE.

JUST BRIEFLY, IT'S IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT, AND IT'S I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF THE ABANDONMENT. I BRING IT UP ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST ALREADY.

IT FELL THROUGH.

AND SO IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THESE TWO THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, YEAH, YEAH, WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE WHATEVER INFORMATION THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED TO US.

IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES TRY TO PULL THAT OUT OF FOLKS.

SOMETIMES WE'RE RELUCTANT TO DO SO.

BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES THEY DO A SPECULATIVE.

THEY SAID, IF I COULD ABANDON THIS LITTLE AND THEN I CAN, I'LL DEVELOP A PROJECT AROUND SOMETHING LATER SO THAT A FAIR AMOUNT OF THAT WILL.

WE CAN ADDRESS THIS THIS AFTERNOON IN THE MOTION.

I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

IF WE COULD GO THROUGH 11 CC, I THINK I HAVE.

THIS IS ABOUT THE TOWER TRUCK, A LADDER TRUCK.

I THINK I'VE MISUNDERSTOOD THE POINT OF THAT I THOUGHT WE WERE PROPOSING IN ADDITION TO THE ONE CENTRAL, WE WERE REPLACING IT.

BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THIS IS MORE TO COVER THE WEST END OF THE AIRPORT.

SO WE HAVE ONE AT THE AIRPORT.

THIS IS TO COVER THE FAR WEST AND WE HAVE ONE AT THE AIRPORT.

WE HAVE TWO LADDER AIRCRAFTS NOW.

WE HAVE A TOWER AND A LADDER.

OK. GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.

HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU DOING? ALL RIGHT. JUST NEW ONES GOING WHERE AT SEVEN? STATION SEVEN, STATION SEVEN.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A 2002 AERIAL TRUCK HERE, STATION ONE, AND WE ALSO HAVE ONE AT STATION FOUR. ACTUALLY THE ONE AT FOUR IS USED TO BE AT SEVEN FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.

WE MOVED IT BACK IN BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT IN THE STATION FOUR AREA.

SURE. BUT RIGHT NOW, WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE WEST END, WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THAT PUMPER, WHICH IS A TWO THOUSAND FIVE PUMPER.

IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO ITS END.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT OVER TO RESERVES AND PUT THAT AERIAL THERE.

IT'LL BE MANNED WITH FOUR MEN ON IT.

THE ONLY THING CHANGING, IT'LL GIVE US AERIAL ACCESS ON THE WEST END WEST OF 61ST STREET. WE HAVE OVER TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO HUNDRED FORTY MID TO HIGH RISE STRUCTURES AND THAT SAME THING OVER 30 FOOT.

AND NOW THE BEACH HOUSES HAVE TO DO WITH 16 FOOT UP.

YEAH. SO THIS WILL GIVE US THIS WILL ENHANCE THE LEVEL OF FIRE PROTECTION TO SERVICE TO THE WEST END AND ALSO REPLACE THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT REALLY, REALLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. I JUST I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS, AND IT WAS SO MANY, SO MANY TALL STRUCTURES ARE GOING UP OUT THERE, AS YOU SAY, JUST EVEN BEACH HOUSES.

AND THIS HAS COME UP IN OUR ISO REVIEW, AND WE WILL PROBABLY GET A BUMP IN OUR ISO, WHICH

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WILL HELP EVERYBODY ON THEIR FOOTPRINT.

WHAT THAT MEANS. THAT'S THAT'S THE INTERNAL SERVICE ORGANIZATION THAT DOES THESE REVIEWS FOR INSURANCE RATINGS.

AND WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL COME IN AND LOOK, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WE GET DINGED ON IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN AERIAL APPARATUS.

AND THIS LOWERS OUR RISK FACTOR, THEREFORE LOWERING PEOPLE.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WE HAVE SOME NEWS ON THAT FRONT FROM THE BUILDING CODE FRONT THAT'LL BE COMING TO YOU. WE'VE GOT BUMPED ON THAT, TOO.

SO WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL. I JUST I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THIS, AND I FULLY SUPPORT THAT.

AND AS I SAID, I GET CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT'S A LADDER, WHAT'S A TOWER, YOU KNOW, BOTH I WOULD SAY ABOUT THIS, LET'S SAY A FIREFIGHTER WOULDN'T SAY THAT THEY BOTH.

NO, NO.

AS YOU KNOW, WE PASSED A AGREEMENT WITH THE LIBRARY AND YOU ADDRESS THE FUNDING.

THIS THERE'S ACTUALLY THIS IS THIS IS FORTUITOUS BECAUSE WE WERE STARTING TO SCRATCH OUR HEADS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS, BUT WE HAVE THE FUNDING COMING FROM THE LIBRARY, WHICH IS WHICH IS GOOD.

BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE HAVE A PIECE OF SURPLUS EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE AN OLD CHIPPER MACHINE THAT WE WERE USING, WHICH WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE.

HOW MUCH WE SOLD ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, REALLY FOR SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND, WE SOLD IT ON THE OLSEN, ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE.

YOU SAY WE'RE NOT MAKING MULCH OUT OF PALM FRONDS ANYMORE? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT BECAUSE NOBODY WANTED IT.

AND SO, YEAH, SO I MEAN, WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE MARKET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I IMAGINE THAT'S LIKE EVERY OTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU CAN'T BUY RIGHT NOW.

WE SAY, WHAT'S THE LEAD TIME ON THIS? YEAH, ON THE FIRE TRUCK.

YEAH, WELL, ACCELERATED.

WE FIT A CALCULATION WHERE WE CAN GET WITHIN A 12 MONTH BUILD FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE THOUSAND OF THIS IS GOING TO BE OUT OF THE LIBRARY.

THAT'S RIGHT. LIBRARY AND THE BALANCE OF IT, IT'S GOING TO COME.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE SHUFFLING IN.

THE REST OF IT ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE SET ASIDE.

BUT THIS WILL ACTUALLY BUY SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF WE WERE BUYING OUT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SAYS CHIPPER MONEY.

SO IT'S NO GOOD THING.

I GOT A QUESTIONS REAL QUICK AND I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS BESIDES A 30 MINUTE PHONE CALL, SO I'LL TRY TO READ YOUR BOOK.

YEAH. SO, SO IS THE FIRE ON THE FUNDING SOURCE.

THE TRUCK IS COSTING A MILLION BUCKS, JUST OVER JUST OVER A MILLION FOUR HUNDRED FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY FROM THE LIBRARY REBATE.

AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEBT SERVICE WILL TAKE THE REST OF IT.

OK, SO THE TRUCK AT YOUR YOUR PLATFORM TRUCK AT STATION ONE IS ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE FOOT CAPABILITY.

HOW RELIABLE IS THAT TRUCK? ACTUALLY HADN'T BEEN THAT IT IS A TWO THOUSAND TWO, BUT IT'S BEEN PRETTY RELIABLE.

ACTUALLY, WE RUN A DOWNTIME OR DOWNTIME OR BOARD ON.

IT'S BEEN EXCELLENT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, BUT NOW THERE WERE SOME MONTHS THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH IT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE FOOT LADDER TRUCK THAT HAS SOME AGE TO IT.

THOSE TRUCKS LAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE A LEVELING SERVICE, WHICH IS A COMPUTERIZED ITEM, GO OUT.

IT TAKES THE TRUCK OUT OF SERVICE AND COSTS QUITE A LOT OF MONEY TO FIX.

BUT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THAT TRUCK IS ACTUALLY LAST YEAR IT'S RAN VERY WELL.

DO Y'ALL RUN THAT TRUCK ON ANYTHING BESIDES A NEED FOR A LADDER TRUCK? OR IF WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT IF THE IF THE PUMPER TRUCK GOES OUT, THAT TRUCK DOESN'T, DOESN'T IT GO OUT ON OTHER CALLS? I MEAN, IT'S ONLY STRUCTURE FIRES AND MAJOR ACCIDENTS WHERE WE NEED HEAVY DUTY RESCUE EQUIPMENT. IT CARRIES THAT IT ALSO HAS SOME REPELLENT FOR ANY HIGH RISE ISSUES THAT COME UP. OK. I DON'T RUN IF THEY'RE A FIRST RESPONDER CALLS COMES IN OR ALL BOXES ARE OUT AND SOMEBODY SIX BLOCKS EIGHT BLOCKS AWAY.

I SEND THE NEIGHBORING UNITS TO KEEP RUNNING, KEEP FROM RUNNING A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR TRUCK. AND THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS FOR REPLACEMENT ON SOMETHING THAT AN EXTRA MINUTE OR TWO IS NOT GOING TO HURT FOR A TRUCK TO GET THERE.

NOT. GET A HEART ATTACK AROUND THE CORNER OF THAT TRUCK IS GOING.

IT'S FULLY EQUIPPED WITH MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, HAS MEDICAL TRAINED PEOPLE ON IT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SEND THEM ACROSS TOWN JUST LIKE MOST OF THE OTHER STATIONS.

THEY RUN WITH ONE PUMPER WHEN THEY'RE OUT.

TRUCK FROM THE NEIGHBORING DISTRICT COMES IN AND COME BACK, AND I DO WANT TO MENTION WE HAVE A GRANT APPLICATION IN PLACE.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COST FOR THIS NEW TRUCK, OF COURSE, GRANTS YOU NEVER KNOW.

WE YOU FOR LAST YEAR DIDN'T GET IT.

WE DID LOOK AT THE GRAND AND WHO GOT AWARDED AND ADJUSTED OUR GRANT TO FIT MORE INTO WHO THEY WERE AWARDING THE GRANT TO.

AND WE ARE TRYING TO REPLACE THAT PARTIALLY WITH THE GRANT AND PARTS OF THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO FUND SOME PART OF IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW THE BANG FOR OUR BUCK BY FAR...

I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR THAT RECEIVE PHONE CALLS ON THAT.

I DIDN'T FIND OUT TILL THIS MORNING.

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I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHY I CAN'T GET AN ANSWER.

I CAN TELL YOU THE ANSWER.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME THAT FEEL LIKE THERE ARE OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED FIRST, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER TO YOU ON THAT.

DO THEY KNOW THERE'S TWO TRUCKS FOR WAITING? WELL, AND THAT'S THAT'S SO TELL ME ABOUT THAT TOO.

WE'RE WAITING. YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED TWO OTHER PUMPERS REVOLVERS, BUT NOT A LADDER OR A LADDER. WE HAVE TWO BUMPERS WE'RE WAITING ON TOO.

YEAH, BUT YOU THINK THAT TRUCK IS WELL-MAINTAINED AND CAN CAN LAST US ANOTHER FEW YEARS UNTIL WE CAN REPLACE IT? YES, SIR. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AT LEAST ANOTHER FIVE TO SIX YEARS OUT OF IT JUST TAKES OUT OF IT. TELL YOU THAT'S A BIG TRUCK.

AND HONESTLY, EVEN WITH OTHER AGENCIES, IF YOU GET A DRIVER DONE LIKE THE TRUCK, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE THE TRUCK. THAT'S WHAT CITY OF HOUSTON, ANYWHERE WE RUN DOWNTOWN REPORTS ON, IT'S RUNNING WELL.

IT'S A TWENTY FIVE YEAR TRUSTEE IS DUE TO BE REPLACED AND PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MORE YEARS. THE OTHER TWO LADDERS, THE NEW LADDER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE SEVENTY FIVE FOOT AND THE ONE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

SEVENTY FIVE FOOT, YOU HAVE TWO BRAND NEW BUMPERS THAT ARE ORDERED.

THEY'RE ALREADY COMING IN THE HOUSTON AREA NOW.

THEY'LL BE PROBABLY WITHIN SERVICE WITHIN 30 TO 60 DAYS.

OKAY. AND MY CONCERN IS NOT IF THE DRIVER LIKES THE TRUCK OR NOT.

IT'S MY MY CONCERN IS IF THE DRIVER CAN ACTUALLY PULL IT OUT OF THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, IT RUNS. IN FACT, I WILL RUN A DOWNTIME DOWNTIME REPORT FOR THAT PARTICULAR THREAT TO THE COUNCIL. OK, SO THAT'D BE GREAT TO SHOW YOU WHERE IT'S AT.

THAT'D BE GREAT. AND THEN MY MY LAST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT OF COURSE, THIS IS CALLED A QUINT TRUCK, QUINT.

SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT THE QUINT TRUCK IS NOT AS GOOD AS A PUMPER TRUCK OR A DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, LADDER TRUCK.

AND SO YOU'RE REPLACING A PUMPER TRUCK WITH THE QUINT DOWN ON STATION SEVEN.

AND THERE ARE SOME CONCERN THAT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TAKING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT CAN DO MULTIPLE THINGS, BUT IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS THE UPSIDE OF THAT. IF ONE OF THESE OTHER TRUCKS THAT SOMEBODY EXPRESSED CONCERN TO YOU GOES DOWN, I HAVE I'LL HAVE TWO LADDER TRUCKS DOING HERE ON THE ISLAND, NOW OUT ON THE WEST END.

I UNDERSTAND. IDEALLY, THEY WANT A PUMP OR THIS TRUCK HOSE FIVE HUNDRED GALLONS OF WATER IN THE TANK. WE'RE PUTTING TWO HUNDRED FOOT WHAT THEY CALL SPADE LEGS ON IT, WHICH NORMALLY THE PUMPS CARRY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY.

IT GIVES US MORE ROOM MORE.

A LOT OF THE HOUSES ARE SET BACK TO, SO GIVE US MORE VOTES TO REACH IT.

I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AT ALL.

I DON'T. I HAD NOBODY EXPRESS THAT TO ME.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT UNTIL THIS MORNING, WHICH IS VERY DISAPPOINTING.

I CAN IMAGINE HOW THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS TEAM FEELS.

WE HAD NO IDEA THAT I MADE ALL THE STATIONS TALK TO ALL THE GUYS.

EVERYBODY'S EXCITED ABOUT IT, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CALL.

YOU GUYS, I WISH THAT HAD BEEN EXPRESSED TO ME, SO LET SOMEBODY KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THEY WERE. THERE'S PROS AND CONS BOTH WAYS.

I THINK WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS TRUCK, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

I THINK IT WILL. QUINTS AREN'T WHAT THEY USED TO BE BACK IN THE EARLY WHEN THE TWINS FIRST STARTED CAME OUT. I COULD SEE THAT ARGUMENT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T CARRY AS MUCH WATER.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY, DIDN'T HAVE THE HOSE CAPACITY.

THIS ONE DOES EVERYTHING A PUMPER DOES.

THAT'S THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT THE QUINT IS A PUMPER.

IT'S A LADDER. IT'S GOT ALL OF THAT IN ONE, THREE AND ACTUALLY TWO THOUSAND GALLONS A MINUTE. WOW.

SO THAT'S THE MOVE WITH SOME WATER.

OK, OK, CAN I? IF I CAN CLARIFY SOMETHING TO THE DRIVERS, THE DRIVERS ARE IN THE TOWER NOW.

ARE THEY TAKING GOOD CARE OF IT? AND I'LL SEND THAT REPORT YOU IN THE PAST WEEK.

THAT IS OK. YEAH.

IN THE PAST, I'M TALKING ABOUT YEARS AGO.

OK, LET'S MOVE ON.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS TOWER IS IT WAS A 2000 AND 2002.

THE ONE THAT IT REPLACED IS STILL IN SERVICE ON JAMAICA BEACH.

OK, ONE HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE.

SO, OK, JUST JUST VERY QUICKLY, MAYOR, IF I MAY.

YOU SAID THIS ONE TWO THOUSAND TWO TRUCK.

SO ITS LIFE EXPECTANCY IS 2027 AND IT'S GOING TO COST US A MILLION FIVE TO REPLACE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. SO THAT'S IN OUR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL THAT STARTS SEQUESTERING SOME MONEY NOW. YEAH. WELL, WE'VE GOT IT.

WE'VE GOT A GRANT APPLICATION. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WE'LL BE TALKING TO YOU GUYS IN FUTURE BUDGETING ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS TO FOCUS THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT BIG, BIG PURCHASES LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TWENTY FIVE YEAR LIFE.

IF YOU HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS TO DO THAT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE A CASH PURCHASE. SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE A WINDFALL.

WE'LL SELL SOME RIGHT AWAY.

SOMEBODY MIGHT BUY SOME PROPERTY OUT BY HOME DEPOT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A WINDFALL OF CASH THAT YOU CAN USE FOR THINGS LIKE THAT OR THE LIBRARY MONEY OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. I'M NOT AT ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE, DAVID? YES, ACTUALLY.

12A, THIS IS THE NOTICE OF INTENTION TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

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I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH THE PUBLIC INTEREST THAT THESE COS ARE COMING OUT OF TWO SILOS, NEITHER OF WHICH ARE PROPERTY TAX.

ONE IS USE FEES ON THE WATER AND SEWER, AND THE OTHER IS A FORM OF SALES TAX.

SO ASIDE FROM THAT, IDC IS ALLOCATED.

SO THIS IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY TAX.

BE THE BUILDING A SOCCER FIELD OR IN THIS CASE, GARBAGE.

START BUYING GARBAGE. THANK YOU.

IN THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR GALVESTON, WE'RE REALLY LUCKY BECAUSE YOU GOT TO FIGURE OVER HALF OF YOUR SALES TAX DOESN'T COME FROM PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

SO HOW OFTEN DO THE KIDS IN GALVESTON GET TO BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING THAT'S PAID FOR THAT? YOU ONLY PAY HALF PRICE FOR THAT.

PEOPLE COMING IN FROM HOUSTON THAT ARE PAYING THE REST OF IT, IT'S PRETTY SLICK DEAL.

I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT, THANK YOU.

AND THE PAY OFF ON THAT.

JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE IS SEVEN YEARS ON THE MARKET, THE SOCCER FIELD AND ITS FIVE YEARS ON THE THE OTHER HAND.

AND THERE'S NO PREPAYMENT PENALTY IF WE DECIDE TO PAY IT OFF THERE.

BUT THE RATES ARE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR HANDS ON THAT.

YEAH, EXACTLY. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE THAT'S WHY WE WOULD HAVE JUMPED IT ON THIS AGENDA BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME INCREASES COMING RIGHT.

MIKE, AT THIS TIME, THIS MIGHT BE A TIME YOU JUST MIGHT WANT TO INTRODUCE VERY QUICKLY THE INDIVIDUALS. WE DID HAVE A LONG TERM FINANCIAL ADVISOR WHO RECENTLY RETIRED AND THE COMPANY THAT HE WAS WITH HUNTINGTON CAPITAL MARKETS IS STILL OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS.

THEY'RE HERE THIS MORNING.

RYAN O'HARA IS HEAD OF THE TEXAS OFFICE, I GUESS.

YES, SIR. AND YOU INTRODUCE YOUR CAMERON THATCHER AND [INAUDIBLE] ABRAHAM KIND OF ROUND OUT OUR TEAM, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE REPRESENTING YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT.

AND OUR VALIANT COUNCILMAN SANDERSON RIGHT? AND BARON IS ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

GOOD MORNING, BARON. MORNING! MORNING. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE, DAVID? NO, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU.

ONE QUICK THING ON THAT BARON AND RYAN GOT TOGETHER PRIMARILY BEAR AND FIGURED OUT HOW TO COMBINE WHAT WOULD NORMALLY PERHAPS BE TWO SALES INTO ONE, WHICH SAVES US ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE COST OF ISSUANCE.

AND RYAN, HIS TEAM, DONE A GOOD JOB PUTTING TOGETHER THE FINANCING NUMBERS FOR US.

THANK YOU, MIKE. APPRECIATE IT, JOHN PAUL.

I GOT MY CAMERA QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MURRAY. I JUST RECEIVED A TEXT FROM SOMEONE SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T HEAR US ONLINE.

CAN WE TURN THE VOLUME UP? OK, SO MY QUESTION, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND IT'S ON 11 X, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH APPROVING THE INCREASE ON THE AIRPORT, THE AIRPORT WASTEWATER EXPANSION.

AND MY QUESTION IS, DOES ANY OF THIS INCREASE COME FROM ALL THE MANY ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM BREAKING PIPES AND SO FORTH AND SO ON? THIS IS THE WATER SIDE. OK.

EXCUSE ME. SO THESE ARE THE FENCING WAS TAKEN OUT AS A VALUE ENGINEERING TASK WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT SOME YEARS BACK AND SOME OF THE FENCE IS JUST IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR AND NEEDS TO BE REESTABLISHED TO MAINTAIN SECURITY.

THE OTHER PIECE OF THE WING WALLS AROUND WATER METER VAULT WHEN THEY'RE INSTALLING IT WITH ALL THE FITTINGS, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH SPACE TO SIGHT IT REALLY CLOSE, SO THEY HAD TO RELOCATE IT. NOW IT'S IN THE [INAUDIBLE] SLOPE, AND THIS IS TO PROTECT YOU SO THAT IT DOESN'T. OK, GOOD.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND KETO'S BEEN GOOD TO YOU WITH THE GOOD WORK.

WE SHOULD TELL YOU THIS.

I PROBABLY CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO.

SO HERD'S LANE..GOT THE PAYMENT SCHEDULE THAT I SENT IT TO JOHN.

IT'LL BE GONE.

BUT NOW IT'S LIKE IT'LL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE MONTH, OK, END OF FEBRUARY.

KEEP IT WELL, BUT KEEP IN MIND AND I'LL I CAN JUMP AHEAD AND GIVE THIS TO YOU NOW.

BUT THEY CANNOT, AND MOST CONTRACTORS DON'T LAY ASPHALT WHEN TEMPERATURES LESS THAN 60 DEGREES, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON.

BROADWAY STILL WORKING LIKE THIS? DO IT YOURSELF, PROJECT JESUS.

DID YOU WANT HIM TO COME BACK TO YOU? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE AGENDA? OK, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

REAL QUICKLY. ITEM EIGHT A.

IF I COULD, PLEASE.

I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THIS.

IT'S ABOUT THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES AND THINGS.

IT MAKES A COMMENT.

I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH THIS WHERE IT IS THAT THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE PROGRAM

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IS AVAILABLE TO ANY STRUCTURE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS ON THE SCREEN BEHIND THESE? OH, I'M SORRY. ANTHONY, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ANY STRUCTURE IN HISTORIC DISTRICT, JUST NOT A GALVESTON LANDMARK STRUCTURE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THERE ARE TWO PARTS OF THE PROGRAM.

ONE IS DESIGNATION OF NEW STRUCTURES, AND THAT GETS A THIRTY FIVE PERCENT REDUCTION IN THE CITY TAXES. AND THAT'S ONLY FOR GOVERNMENTS AND LANDMARKS OUTSIDE OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO THE STAFF REPORT IS NOTING THAT THIS PARTICULAR DESIGNATION IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCATED WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

OK. THERE'S ANOTHER PROGRAM CALLED SUBSTANTIAL REHABILITATION, AND ALL HISTORIC PROPERTIES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT ONE.

AND THIS STRUCTURE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT THEN.

CORRECT, IF THEY START TO DO A RESTORATION, THEN THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT ONE.

OK. AND THANK YOU.

THERE'S A TIME LIMIT ON THIS IS THEY'RE NOT CAPPED TO THE REDUCTION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

CORRECT. FOR NEW [INAUDIBLE] LANDMARKS, THE PERIOD OF TIME IS FIVE YEARS.

FOR SUBSTANTIAL REHABILITATION.

IT'S 10 YEARS. OK, THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK? YES, MA'AM.

SO WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO LANDMARK A PROPERTY? GENERALLY SPEAKING, AT THE AGE REQUIREMENT IS 50 YEARS OLD OR OLDER, AND THEN THERE'S A LIST OF CRITERIA THAT I CAN EMAIL TO THE COMMISSION.

I'M SORRY, THE COUNCIL.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU, CATHERINE.

APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. ITEM 8C, THIS IS OUR THE PUD AND SO FORTH THERE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, I NEVER I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT 3005 WAS CALLED THE BLUE WATER HIGHWAY, BUT ANYWAY, BUT THAT'S NOT NELLIE.

IT WAS ONE DAY LAST SUMMER WHEN I THINK MOST PEOPLE REFER TO THE PART OF IT BEING OVER IN BRAZORIA COUNTY. YEAH, I JUST SAW THAT ON THE.

I THOUGHT, THAT'S INTERESTING.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THAT ON THIS PARCEL D WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THE RENTAL STRUCTURE ON THAT CAN COME ON UP.

I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD THERE ON PARCEL D, THE COMMERCIAL.

WHEN WE APPROVE THIS PUD THEY CAN'T EXPAND INTO PARTIAL DEAL WITH OTHER COMMERCIAL.

SHOW ACTIVITIES UNLESS THEY COME BACK AND PRESENT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THERE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO WHAT WE'RE APPROVING THIS, WE'RE PROVING ONLY THAT STRUCTURE FOR RENTAL RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THAT PARCEL D IS A LARGE STRUCTURE AND WE'RE NOT APPROVING THAT TO BE ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES.

IT'S JUST WHAT'S BEEN APPLIED FOR.

OK. STRICTLY.

YES, MA'AM. WELL, ALONG THE SAME LINES.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO ASK MY QUESTIONS WHEN WE WERE HAVING THE HEARING, BUT I MIGHT AS WELL JUMP ON IT NOW.

THE APPLICANT WAS RUNNING THIS BUSINESS WITHOUT PERMISSION.

THIS PAST SUMMER AND THEY WERE RUNNING IT OUT OF A CONTAINER.

SO WHAT ARE WE REQUIRING THEM TO ACTUALLY PUT UP A BUILDING THAT MEETS THE, YOU KNOW, THAT LOOKS LIKE A NICE BUILDING, THAT IS A NICE BUILDING THAT MEETS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NEARING BECAUSE I DO HAVE A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS.

THERE'S A BUILDING THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED.

YES, THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY HERE, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT. I WOULD RATHER KEEP THAT TO THE HEARING THIS AFTERNOON IF I COULD.

BUT YEAH, YEAH, THERE IS A BUILDING, OK? AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THE ACTIVITY WOULD WOULD BE WITHIN THAT BUILDING.

THE THE RENTAL ITSELF IS NOT A WALK UP RENTAL.

IT'S STRICTLY YOU CALL AHEAD AND THEY THE THE OPERATOR OF THE BUSINESS WOULD DELIVER THOSE GOLF CARTS TO WHATEVER LOCATION YOU KNOW THEY'RE BEING REQUESTED TO.

SO IT'S IT'S NOT ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH AN ON SITE, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER BASED SYSTEM.

IT'S ALL DELIBERATE.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BEACH ACCESS.

THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS THAT THERE WAS BEACH ACCESS AND THAT'S BEEN CLOSED OFF AND IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

AND COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT?

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LET'S SEE. I BELIEVE THE ACCESS IS RIGHT ALONG THREE DOUBLE FIVE WELL, NOT THE BEACH ACCESS, BUT THEY HAD A PATHWAY TO GET TO.

YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE THAT PATHWAY HAS BEEN IN ANY WAY OBSTRUCTED.

IT'S IT'S STILL EXISTS.

IT'S NOT AN APPROVED PATHWAY AS SUCH, BUT THAT'S STILL AVAILABLE FOR YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT ANSWERS THAT.

OK, THANK YOU. TIM, I APPRECIATE IT.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? THANKS VERY MUCH. AND, LOOK HERE.

ITEM 11 C, BRIAN, IT IS FOR THE FOR THE EVERGREEN SOLUTIONS HERE. GOOD MORNING, KEN.

HOW ARE YOU? KEN WE DO? OUR COMPENSATION STUDY IS DONE.

IS IT EVERY TWO YEARS THAT WE DO THAT? SO WE'LL DO A COMPLETE COMPENSATION STUDY EVERY FIVE YEARS, BUT WE'LL DO AN UPDATE TO THAT EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS.

OK, OTHER TWO TO THREE YEARS? YES, SIR. THIS CONTRACT HANDLES.

THEN WE HAVE TO, I THINK, TWO EXTENSIONS TO THAT.

SO THIS HANDLES IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OK.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, I KNOW WHEN WE DID THE COMPENSATION STUDY BEFORE, THERE WERE SOME POSITIONS THAT REQUIRED MAYBE LOOKING AT THEM IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOCUS, SUCH AS OUR AUDITOR.

I THINK WE HAD SOME CITY SECRETARY POSITIONS ON THAT.

HOW DOES THIS COMPANY DO THEY TAKE SPECIAL ATTENTION IN AND SO FORTH TO THOSE POSITIONS? ABSOLUTELY. SO WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL THEY'LL CREATE FOCUS GROUPS.

WE'LL HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND WE'LL ALSO GO THROUGH THESE THE RESULTS WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY WITH THOSE UNIQUE TASKS MIGHT BE IN THESE VARIOUS AREAS.

SO THEY TAKE ALL OF THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY DO THEIR CLASSIC COMP STUDY. OK, OK, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM. ONE OF THE OTHER COMPLAINTS WE'VE HAD FROM EMPLOYEES BOARD IN THE PAST STUDIES, AND EVEN I WOULD SAY I FELT THE SAME WAY THAT THEY DID IS THE CITIES THAT THEY USE WERE REALLY NOT COMPATIBLE CITIES TO GALVESTON.

I KNOW WE'RE UNIQUE IN MANY WAYS, BUT THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY COMPARING TOURISM CITIES AND SO FORTH. SO THAT WAS HOW DO WE GET TO SEE WHAT CITIES ARE BEING CHOSEN OR.

RIGHT? SO IN OUR INITIAL STUDY THAT WE CONDUCTED IN TWENTY FIFTEEN, THAT PROCESS WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL AND THERE WAS A COMPLETE VETTING OF THAT OF THOSE SURVEY COMPETITORS AT THAT TIME. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE SURVEY COMPETITORS THAT THIS CONSULTING COMPANY RECOMMENDS IS BROUGHT FORTH AS WELL, AND THEY SHOW EXACTLY WHY THEY'RE PICKING WHAT SURVEY COMPETITORS THAT THEY'RE SELECTING AND CITY COUNCIL WILL HAPPEN.

WE DISAGREE WITH THAT OR ASK WHY CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

AND WE'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THEY THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE TASKED WITH NOW IS ALSO NOT ONLY LOOKING AT COASTAL CITIES, BUT ALSO OUR DIRECT COMPETITORS HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME UNIQUE CHALLENGES, OUR GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION, SOME OF THE THE PLANTS THAT ARE JUST NEAR US.

SO THEY'RE HAVING TO FACTOR IN NOT ONLY THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTOR.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER ALL THE FACTORS AND THEN PRESENT TO US A PLAN.

THANK YOU KEN, AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

ONE LAST QUESTION.

WE'RE WIND THIS UP ON OUR CLARIFICATION.

THIS IS NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION, BRIAN.

IT'S 11D.

I JUST WANTED YOU TO MAKE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.

YOU LOOK AT THIS, THE PACKING MATERIAL THAT CAN BE A LITTLE CONCERNING AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU. SO I MY SPEAK TO IT.

HE'S BEEN HE'S OUR HERO ON THIS ONE.

ALL THE PUBLIC ENTITIES PRETTY MUCH RECEIVED LETTERS FROM FEMA.

THEY ARE D OBLIGATING CERTAIN PRE-APPROVE.

CERTAIN PROPERLY APPROVED PROJECTS AT THE CITY HAD DONE FOR VARIOUS REASONS, AND THEY'VE DONE IT FOR THEY'VE DONE IT TO THE PORT, AND I THINK I THINK EVERYBODY GOT A LETTER OF SOME TYPE. BUT IN OUR INSTANCE, THEY STILL OWE US A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN CLEARED AND APPROVED.

SO RATHER THAN US WRITING THEM A CHECK, THEY WRITE US A CHECK.

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WE WRITE THEM A CHECK, THEY WRITE US A CHECK.

MIKE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT TO GET THAT CLEARED UP, BUT THEY OWE US SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR US TO BE OBLIGATED FOR CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE END OF THE PROCESS. NOW THAT WE'RE COMPARING NUMBERS AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING DOWN HERE NEXT WEEK, WE'LL BE TALKING IN SOME DETAIL WITH THEM ABOUT OUTSTANDING ISSUES AND OUTSTANDING PROJECTS.

BUT WE'VE PUSHED ALONG WITH THEM UPWARDS OF 80 PROJECT WORKSHEETS TO FEMA IN THE LAST 13 MONTHS. AND IT'S AND IT'S THAT IT'S JUST ABOUT TO BE ON FEMA'S DESK TO GIVE FINAL APPROVAL OF THINGS LIKE OUR LIST STATIONS, WHERE TESTS OF WROBLEWSKI IS IS STILL DEALING WITH THEM ON THAT. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE UNDERGROUND, YOU COULDN'T TELL WHAT THE DAMAGE WAS UNTIL YOU GOT IT OUT AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR ACTUAL COST BACK. SHE'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

THE CITY STAFF HAS SUPPORTED HER WELL AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO TRY AND WRAP IT UP IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF GALVESTON.

SO WE'RE BEING NET POSITIVE.

BUT ALSO, I JUST WANT I WANT TO THANK STAFF.

THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS.

I THINK WE HAD THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT, OH FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN PW'S OUT THERE AFTER IKE. WE'RE PRETTY WELL WINDING THIS UP AND THANK YOU, MIKE, TO YOUR DEPARTMENT, TESSA. EVERYBODY PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS.

APPRECIATE IT. IT'S CRAZY THAT AN ORGANIZATION APPROVES TO SEND YOU THE MONEY.

YOU DO THE WORK.

YOU FINISH THE WORK AND THEN THEY SAY, CHANGED OUR MIND.

WE NEED THAT MONEY BACK. YEAH, IT'S BEEN QUITE A JOURNEY.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

MARIE.

YEAH, YEAH. THE OTHER IS, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER.

I MEAN, I THINK WHAT GLENN IS DOING WITH THE CONTRACT MANAGEMENT PROJECT SERVICE IS BENEFICIAL.

DO WE WANT TO HAVE JUST A LITTLE UPDATE NOW OR FOR THAT AT THE REGULAR 11A GETS ON YOUR DESK HERE, THE PRINTED COPY OF THAT FROM THE[INAUDIBLE] READER? AND SURELY, IF YOU WOULD WANT MARIE, WE COULD HAVE MR. [INAUDIBLE] COME UP.

GLENN, COULD YOU COME ON, SIR? WE DO HAVE, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE THE REPORT ON THE AUDIT FOR PRETTY DISCRETE CHANGE ORDERS ON YOUR DESK IN FRONT OF YOU HERE.

GLENN, GOOD MORNING. COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A PARAPHRASE OF WHAT YOUR FINDINGS WERE ON THIS? SURE.

IN THE FIRST FOUR PARAGRAPHS OF THE AUDIT REPORT, THE LOOK IN PARAGRAPH NUMBER THREE.

WHAT WE FOUND THE CHANGE ORDERS DID NOT MATCH THE STAFF REPORTS FISCAL IMPACT SECTIONS UNTIL THE SEVENTH CHANGE ORDER.

THE CITY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGER PROVIDED THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE WITH CHANGE ORDER NUMBER SEVEN AND THE FINAL STAFF REPORT WITH A PHYSICAL IMPACT REPORT THAT MATCHED TO THE PENNY. THAT WAS AFTER CHANGE ORDER NUMBER SEVEN.

SO THE END RESULT? DAN BUCKLEY, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO UPDATE THE CURRENT STAFF REPORT.

WE INCLUDED AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET TO PREVENT ANY FURTHER CALCULATION ERRORS ON FEBRUARY 12 2021.

MR. BUCKLEY DIRECTED STAFF TO USE THE STAFF REPORT FORMAT AND FORM SO THAT WE CORRECTED THE PROBLEM.

YOU KIND OF PUT IT IN OTHER TERMS, I THINK MEN KIND OF GUIDE ME ON THIS.

THE FINDINGS WERE THAT WHEN THE ACCOUNTING WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE STAFF REPORT, THERE WERE SOME IRREGULARITIES OR THAT WAS NOT DONE TO MATCH UP WITH WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. IT WAS REPORTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

BUT THE ACCOUNTING AND SO FORTH OF THE PROJECT WAS WAS PERFECTLY TIMED, RIGHT? YES. ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER IF COUNCILMAN QUIROGA HADN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT SO MUCH, WOULD WE HAVE GOTTEN THAT SEVEN HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS BACK, WHERE WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED? YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BECAUSE THE ACCOUNTING WAS ALL CORRECT.

IT WAS PRINTED ON A LETTER THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR FINANCES.

WELL, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU WITH THE COMPANY, RIGHT? BUT THAT WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN ANYWAY BECAUSE THE ACCOUNTING, I THINK, YEAH, YEAH, EVERYTHING WAS CORRECT.

IT'S JUST WHEN THEY TRANSFERRED SOME OF THE NUMBERS, THEY DIDN'T GET CORRECTLY TRANSFERRED TO THE STAFF.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS INDEPENDENT OF THE ISSUE WITH THE STAFF REPORTS. YEAH, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS AND I'M REFERRING TO THE COMPANY WHO DID

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THE PROJECT, I'M NOT REFERRING TO THE STAFF, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE TRUE BENEFITS OF HAVING THIS CONTRACT MANAGEMENT.

SO I'M HAPPY, AS WE PUT IT INTO PLACE, AND.

I AGREE IT'S GREAT WORKING WITH GLENN.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE], REALLY? WELL, THANK YOU.

THANKS, GLENN. APPRECIATE IT.

VERY GOOD. THAT FINISHES.

ITEM THREE. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3B.

[3.B. Discussion Of Pocket Park Three (3) Improvements With Council Direction To Staff On Potential Future Paid Parking And Associated Amenities. (B. Hill/Brown - 15 Minutes)]

BE PLEASE GET OUT OF POCKET PARK THREE IMPROVEMENTS IN COUNCIL DIRECTIONS TO STAFF, A POTENTIAL FUTURE PIPELINE AND ASSOCIATED COMMUNITY.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

THIS COUNCIL BEFORE MR. HILL STARTS, THIS IS ITEM ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM 11 W THAT'S ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

SO AS BRENDAN, THIS KIND OF VISITS WITH US TODAY.

KEEP THAT PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IN MIND.

GO RIGHT AHEAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING.

THIS PROJECT IS A IT'S A VERY EXCITING ONE, AND IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO CONVERT WHAT I LOVINGLY CALL MOUNT BLACKTOP INTO A USABLE POCKET PARK AGAIN.

YEAH. FOR FOR ANYBODY WHO'S NOT FAMILIAR, COUNTY POCKET PARK THREE WAS UTILIZED IN THE AS A MILLING LAYDOWN LOT FOR THE 3005 IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

AND SO CURRENTLY THERE IS A MOUNTAIN OF BLACKTOP MILLINGS THAT HAVE TOWERED TO THE SKY.

THOSE ARE BEING REMOVED AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WITH THAT PROPERTY.

LUCKILY, THERE IS A CMP SELECTED THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, SELECTED OUR PROJECT FOR A GRANT WHICH ALLOWS US TO SPEND EIGHTY THOUSAND IN IDC FUNDS IN EXCHANGE FOR ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN NOA PASS THROUGH MONEY.

SO NOA FEDERAL FUNDS GET PASSED THROUGH TO THE GLOW.