YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. [00:00:05] IT IS 9:00 A.M. [Call to Order] I AM OFFICIALLY CALLING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON FOR THURSDAY, DECEMBER 2ND TO ORDER. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE THAT'S IN ATTENDANCE IN THE CHAMBER HALLS AND THE COUNCIL CHAMBER TODAY. WELCOME ANYONE THAT'S WATCHING FROM THE COMMUNITY. GLAD TO HAVE YOU THIS MORNING AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR BEING HERE. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR BROWN. PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM COLLINS. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHUSTER. COUNCIL MEMBER QUIROGA. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI. HE'S HERE, BUT. COUNCIL MEMBER ROBB. PRESENT. ALL RIGHT, WE DO HAVE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL SEATED IN PRESENT HERE. WHY IT SOUND LIKE YOU'RE ON SURROUND SOUND? EXCUSE ME. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'RE ON SURROUND SOUND. YEAH, YOU CAN HEAR THE ECHO. I'M NOT SURE. SO MAYBE THAT'S ME. [LAUGHTER] I WAS GOING TO SAY. ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'RE COMING TO PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO OUR DISCUSSION OF THE CHANGES OR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO OUR REDISTRICTING MAP. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOLLOWING THAT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ADEQUATE TIME TO COMMENT BEFORE AND AFTER OUR DISCUSSION ON THAT. SAYING THAT WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. IT IS 9:01. JANELLE, FIRST OF ALL, DO WE HAVE ANY WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. NO WRITTEN COMMENTS. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME ATTENDEES THAT ARE VIRTUALLY ATTENDING. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK, JANELLE? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ONLINE ON THE ZOOM CALL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. THE MAYOR, I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED, DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL EACH NAME? LET'S CALL EACH NAME JUST TO MAKE SURE IF WE COULD. BELINDA DAVIS. NO QUESTION. KERRY SCURRY. MARY WADDELL. HERE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? NOT AT THIS TIME. YOU CAN GO TO A PLACE TO GET ANYTHING. LEO LAM. NOT AT THIS TIME. CRAIG [INAUDIBLE]. ISN'T THIS THE ONLY TIME PEOPLE CAN COMMENT. EXCUSE ME, I'M AWARE THAT THIS IS. HEY, EVERYBODY. Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME? YES, SIR. I'M IN HOUSTON. I'M JUST PARTICIPATING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REGINA [INAUDIBLE]. NO COMMENT. AND S.L. HOLMES. NO COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. NO COMMENTS FOR THOSE ONLINE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR THOSE LISTENING, ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING US THAT WE'LL HAVE THE AVAILABILITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS SOON AS WE FINISH OUR DISCUSSION THIS MORNING OF OUR FROM EACH COUNCIL MEMBER ALSO. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ROOM THAT'S IN ATTENDANCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT? HARRY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, SIR? I THINK MR. HENRY IS HERE TO LEARN THE PROCESS. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. I WARNED HIM ABOUT THAT. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU TODAY, SIR. ALL RIGHT. NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 4A, PLEASE, JANELLE. [4.A. Discuss Preliminary Redistricting Proposals And Possible Suggestions For Amendments In Furtherance Of The City's Redistricting Process] ITEM 4A DISCUSS PRELIMINARY REDISTRICTING PROPOSALS AND POSSIBLE SUGGESTIONS FOR [00:05:01] AMENDMENTS IN FURTHERANCE OF THE CITY'S REDISTRICTING PROCESS. COUNCIL WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO WILL LET DON AND MR. HEATH AND BOB THANK YOU FOR BEING AGAIN WITH US THIS MORNING. BEFORE THEY SAY A FEW WORDS AND WE STARTED OUT, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WORK OUR WAY DOWN THROUGH, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO GET INPUT FROM THEM ON WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON THEIR PARTICULAR DISTRICT AND KNOWING THAT WE'RE USING PLAN D THAT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE AS OUR BASIS FOR OUR COMMENTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. ALSO, FOR EVERYONE'S KNOWLEDGE, WE WILL HAVE A MEETING DECEMBER 9TH TODAY IS TO, OF COURSE, TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND ALSO HAVE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER GIVE GUIDANCE AND IDEAS ON HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LINES DRAWN IN THEIR PARTICULAR DISTRICT. AND WE WILL VOTE ON THESE AND MAKE OUR FINAL DECISION AT OUR COUNCIL MEETING ON DECEMBER 9TH. BEFORE WE START WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS INPUT DON OR MR. HEATH. DON, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AT THIS POINT? I HAVE A I THINK IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL PLAN D SINCE PLAN D WAS. ARRIVED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL CHANGES SUGGESTED BY COUNCIL AND SENT TO ME, AND I HAVE SENT IT UP TO MR. HEATH SO HE COULD HAVE THEM READY TO DISCUSS TODAY. LET ME CHECK, I JUST NEED TO SEE IF THE PLAN D THAT WAS SENT OUT ON THE AGENDA IS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN WERE THE FINAL RESULTS OF WORKSHOP. AND IT APPEARS THAT IT HAS. I'LL LET THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES SPEAK TO THEIR CHANGES THEMSELVES. THE MORE POINTED CHANGES ARE IN A REQUEST FROM DISTRICT ONE AND REQUESTS FROM DISTRICT FOUR. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BOB, WHO HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. IT'S BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE, I BELIEVE, TO THE CITY'S REQUESTS, AND WE SHOULD BE READY TO GO. AND WITH THAT MR. HEATH. AND BOB, BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING, I WANTED FOR THE PUBLIC JUST TO REALIZE PLAN D DOES NOT INCLUDE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL CHANGES. WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THOSE COMING UP THIS MORNING. BOB, GO RIGHT AHEAD. THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT. AND WE PUT THE MAP UP ON THE SCREEN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COUNCIL AND OTHER PEOPLE WATCHING IT. THAT AND WE CAN GET MORE CLOSE UPS AND SO FORTH. YEAH, THERE WE GO. THAT'S BETTER. I'M READY TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS, BUT D IS WHERE WE LEFT IT LAST TIME. AND, YOU KNOW, ANY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THAT WANT TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT, I ASSUME IMPROVEMENT ON IT. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AND WE'LL PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN AND SEE IF IT WORKS. ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. WE HAVE THIS WORKSHOP SESSION TODAY AND WE HAVE ADOPTION SET FOR DECEMBER 9TH. YES, SIR. SO. THAT TIMELINE IS VERY TIGHT, BUT IT WAS DRIVEN TO US BY THE LATE RELEASE OF CENSUS DATA. SO I WOULD ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES, TODAY IS THE DAY. I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] AVAILABLE ON THE 9TH TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, SO WE NEED TO ROLL WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. GO RIGHT AHEAD. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE CHANGE. WELL, MARIE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, WE'RE GOING TO WORK OUR WAY DOWN TO THE THROUGH THE DISTRICTS HERE. NOT ON THE MAP. LIKE [INAUDIBLE] JUST DISRESPECT THE TAXPAYERS THAT'S ALL. LAST ON THE MAP, FIRST IN THE ARTS. THAT IS CORRECT. [00:10:03] VERY GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS WE KNOW, AS BOB MENTIONED, WE'RE READY FOR INPUT. LET'S START WITH DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, LOUIS. FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. COULD YOU MOVE YOUR MIC DOWN? THERE WE GO. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. I HEARD YOU MENTIONED THE CENSUS BLOCK. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE DISTRICT, THOUGH? I MEAN, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO USE THAT TO DRAW THE LINES OR WHAT? WE. OR IS THAT USED CENSUS BLOCKS AS THE BUILDING BLOCK AND A CENSUS BLOCK IS BASICALLY A CITY BLOCK IN AN URBAN AREA. NOW SOME OF THESE BLOCKS IN GALVESTON AND ANYWHERE ELSE ARE GOING TO BE ODDLY SHAPED, FOR EXAMPLE. THERE'S ONE THAT IS A VERY LONG, SKINNY BLOCK. THIS IS BEACH, YOU KNOW, IT'S FROM THE SEAWALL TO THE GULF. AND, YOU KNOW, BUT NOBODY LIVES THERE. BUT BASICALLY IT'S A CITY BLOCK, AND THAT'S THE WAY THE CENSUS DATA IS REPORTED. THAT'S THE ONLY DATA THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S THE WAY THE SOFTWARE IS SET UP. SO IF WE'RE MOVING STUFF AROUND, WE DO IT WITH CENSUS BLOCKS. NOW, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SPLIT A CENSUS BLOCK? YES, WE PREFER NOT TO. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU DO, YOU'RE LEAVING DATA THAT YOU KNOW TO DATA THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO ESTIMATE OR WHATEVER BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE IN THE BLOC. WHEN YOU SPLIT IT. IF YOU SPLIT IT. IF YOU SPLIT IT. WE PREFER NOT TO SPLIT IT, BUT. OK. WELL, IN DISTRICT ONE, AND I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE IN THE SUGGESTION THE WEST END, WHERE SEVENTY-SEVENTH STREET, THOSE ADDITION OF HOMES. CHANNEL VIEW. CHANNEL VIEW. TO GO TO, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE DISTRICT FIVE. RIGHT THERE. YEAH, EVERYTHING WEST TO 77TH STREET. SO THAT'S YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU WANNA TAKE THAT AND MOVE IT TO FIVE? YES. NOW AT THE SAME TIME, ARE WE LOOKING AT THE DATA AS IT CHANGES? YEAH, IT WILL ONCE HE DOES THAT, IT WILL CHANGE THE DATA DOWN AT THE BOTTOM. NOW BOB, WHEN THAT CHANGES, IT MAY BE JUST ME. I CAN'T SEE ALL OF THAT REAL CLEARLY. IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAGNIFY THOSE CHANGES ON THE DATA? JOSH, CAN YOU EXPAND THE DATA OR MAKE IT A LITTLE BIGGER? IS THAT POSSIBLE? YEAH. SURE. JUST THE MATRIX HERE. YEAH, THAT THAT'S MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU. DO YOU NEED THAT LARGER [INAUDIBLE]? YOU JUST CAN'T SEE IT. CAN WE? OK, SO IS THAT COUNCILMAN? AND IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED TO MOVE? CORRECT. I BELIEVE THAT YOU DID IT. THERE YOU GO. AND WHAT ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU, VANNA. YEAH, THAT CHANGES OUR. WE'RE STILL UNDER 10 PERCENT. ONE IS ABOUT 1.7% UNDER AND FIVE ABOUT 2.8% OVER. BUT WE'RE STILL WITHIN 10. ACTUALLY, IT TELLS US WHAT OUR TOTAL DEVIATION IS, BUT IT'S BLOCKED BY THE INSET OF THE COUNCIL UP AT THE TOP RIGHT. BUT ISN'T IT TRUE THAT WHAT YOU SEE THERE ON DISTRICTS THREE OR FOUR, WERE THE OUTLIERS THERE? SO THAT'S YOUR TOTAL DEVIATION. BUT WHAT THE TOTAL DEVIATION WILL BE THERE IS 3.56 PLUS 3.89, SO THAT'S SEVEN . SECOND FIVE. YEAH, STILL WELL UNDER TEN. [INAUDIBLE] IS THAT RIGHT? 7.45% YES. OK. OH, SURE. NOW THAT'S COUNCILWOMAN LEWIS, THAT'S TAKING CHANNEL VIEW OUT OF DISTRICT ONE AND MOVING IT TO DISTRICT FIVE. [00:15:02] OK. OK. AND WE LOOKED AT ONE OTHER. ALL RIGHT, SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK OVER TO AVENUE O, FORTY-THIRD. AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, THE LINE SAYS 45TH STREET. SO IT'S A RECTANGULAR PIECE IN THERE. YES, MA'AM. BETWEEN THE FORTY-THIRD AND FORTY-FIFTH AND THAT RECTANGULAR BLOCK DOWN TO L. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE LOOK AT REMOVING THAT? OK, BETWEEN. WHERE HE'S GOT HIS CURSOR RIGHT NOW. O, AND WHAT? GO DOWN TO L. O, FORTY-THIRD. FORTY-FIFTH AND THEN DOWN TO AVENUE L. NO, HE HAD IT YOU HAD IT THE PURPLE, RIGHT THERE. I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN SEE THAT. YOU SEE. YEAH, TO THE RIGHT OF THAT. I THINK MAP A IT WAS. I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THOSE TWO BLOCKS IN THE LARGE BLOCK BELOW IT. YES. DID YOU GET THAT JOSH? THOSE BLOCKS RIGHT THERE. IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND? CORRECT. OK. AND WE ARE ASSIGNING THIS TO DISTRICT FOUR. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A CHOICE. WITH THAT. RIGHT. NOW, YES THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO LET'S MOVE THAT AND SEE, OK, NOW THAT THROWS US OUT OF BALANCE. OK. SEE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE 14.9. OK.WHEN IT'S OVER FIVE, BUT. THAT'S SHOWING US WE'RE OUT OF BALANCE. YEAH. ALL RIGHTY, THEN TAKE THAT AND BRING IT UP FROM L AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS FROM AVENUE L. BRING IT BACK UP TO M R. AVENUE, M AND A HALF. MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE IT TO N. THAT THE PIECE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES, SO. AND [INAUDIBLE] YES. I THINK. IT'S BETWEEN O AND N FORTY-THIRD. YEAH. SO WHAT HAPPENS THERE? WILL JUST WENT TO 4.68. AND YOU'RE JUST A 0.72 UNDER. WILL THAT INCREASE THE VARIANCE TO LITTLE ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF. 8.58. I CAN'T MOVE THAT LITTLE BOX WHILE HE'S SHARING HIS SCREEN. I TRIED MOVING IT. OK. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL [INAUDIBLE]. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, I CAN SEE THE TOTAL. JUST SHOUT OUT. I WILL. I'M PAYING ATTENTION TO YEAH. YEAH. TOO BAD. I DON'T THINK I CAN MOVE ON STILL WITHIN 10 PERCENT. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE JUST TRY THAT AND THEN GO DOWN THE LINE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS? ALL RIGHT. IS THAT ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS? CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S MOVE TO COUNCIL MEMBER DISTRICT TWO COUNCIL MEMBER SCHUSTER. I THINK I'M GOOD WITH THE DISTRICT THAT'S PRESENTED HERE. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE BEACH FRONT IDEA, BUT SEEMS JUST NOT HAVING A CLEAR GEOGRAPHICAL LINE WITH IT. DAVE SEEMS OK WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THE ISSUE OF KEEPING IT IN THREE AND YOU KNOW, I'M OK WITH THIS RIGHT NOW. OKAY, WELL I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT OK. YEAH, WE CAN. I KNOW PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN PUTTING THE BEACH FRONT INTO TWO, SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT REALLY LONG, SKINNY SORT OF SALMON COLORED THING THERE. THAT'S A SINGLE BLOCK. AND NOBODY LIVES THERE. AND THAT'S ONE WHERE WE COULD SPLIT THE BLOCK PRETTY EASILY BECAUSE NOBODY'S THERE, RIGHT? BUT WE CAN'T DO IT UNTIL THE VERY END, BECAUSE IF WE CUT IT NOW, APPARENTLY [00:20:01] EVERY TIME WE DO ANYTHING WITH THE MAP, WE HAVE TO GO AND MANUALLY CUT IT. SO WE WANT TO DO IT IN THE VERY LAST STEP. OKAY THEN TO COMMENT ON THAT, BEFORE WE PASS IT. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WAS DOING IT AT SIXTH STREET. AT SIXTH STREET. THAT'S WHERE OUR THAT'S THE EASTERN TERMINUS OF DISTRICT TWO. IF YOU JUST DROP THAT LINE FROM STRAIGHT DOWN, NOBODY, I TAKE IT, NOBODY LIVES. NO. NO. AND WILLIAM AND I THINK BOTH AMENABLE TO DOING IT THAT WAY. AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WILLIAM. ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. LET'S MOVE TO DISTRICT THREE. DAVID, I'M HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT LOOKS WITH AND, LIKE I SAY, PERFECTLY HAPPY TO GIVE UP THAT UNPOPULATED STRETCH OF BEACH THERE. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. DISTRICT FOUR COUNCILMAN. WELL, I ALSO LOSE THE PLEASURE PIER, BUT THERE YOU ARE. THE PROPOSAL THAT I SENT TO YOU, THAT I SEE SEEN ON A MAP, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO GO WITH. OK, JOSH, THE THING WE DID THE OTHER DAY ON DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE. CAN WE SHOW THAT? YES. JUST ONE MOMENT, I'LL HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES QUICKLY. OK. I BELIEVE THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE HAD ARRIVED ON, BOB. THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT CORRECT? AND IT. YOU'RE AT 8.75 NOW. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME DEVIATION THAT WE HAD BEFORE. AFTER THE CHANNEL VIEW CHANGES, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, BUT ANYWAY, EIGHT POINT WHATEVER. WOULD COUNCILMAN QUIROGA JUST A QUESTION, DOES THAT DIVIDE UP BY YOUR SHORES OVER THERE? YES. THERE'LL BE THE DIVIDING LINE, YEAH. I MEAN, IS THERE PORTION OF BY YOUR SHORES THAT WE'D MOVE TO FIVE? AND I MEAN, IT'S NOT ALL. LET ME ASK BOB, ON THAT DIVIDING LINE THERE. IS THAT ANYTHING EAST TO GO TO FOUR ANYTHING WEST TO GO TO FIVE? OR IS IT GOING TO BE BOTH SIDES? NO. WELL, YEAH, NO. THE EAST WOULD GO TO FOUR, THE WEST WOULD GO TO FIVE ON BAYOU HOMES DRIVE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OH, SURE, I BELIEVE. I THINK ITS BAYOU SHORE. WELL, LET'S SEE BAYOU SHORE. OK, YEAH, RIGHT? WEST WOULD BE TO. SO THE DIVIDING LINE IN THE MIDDLE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. SO ANYTHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET EAST TO GO TO FOUR. THE WEST GO TO FIVE. YEAH. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WE WEREN'T KEEPING BY BAYOU SHORES IS A CONTIGUOUS COMMUNITY. JUST A QUESTION. THE REASON I DID THAT IS BECAUSE ALL OF THE WATER ASPECT WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS WITH. RAW SEWAGE. I ONLY HAVE A FEW HOUSES THERE, SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST JUST TO MOVE IT TO FIVE. OK. OK. OK. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, THOUGH, BECAUSE THEN IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT BAYOU SHORES WHAT WE WERE WERE STRIVING TO PREVENT ON PINE STREET. I MEAN, THIS AFFECTS MY DISTRICT TOO, SO I AGREE AS WELL. AGREE WITH WHAT AGREE WITH. THAT IT JUST SPLITS UP THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD DO THAT. AND THEN AND I MEAN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT KIND OF GERRYMANDERING, THIS IS WHAT I SEE KIND [00:25:03] OF WHEN I SEE THIS LITTLE FINGER GOING THROUGH A DISTRICT AND KIND OF THESE WEIRD LINES LIKE THIS, THAT'S WHAT IT REMINDS ME OF. IT JUST TOTALLY SPLITS NEIGHBORHOODS UP. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO PREVENT HERE WITH PINE. AND SO THIS IS THROWING A WHOLE NOTHER SITUATION AND IT JUST LIKE PINE. HMM. WELL, CAN YOU GIVE THEM BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET? BUT IT'S SO SEPARATE FROM THE REST OF MY DISTRICT. MM HMM. YEAH, IT IS. I MEAN, IT'S SEPARATED BY A BODY OF WATER. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THAT'S BAYOU HOMES DRIVE. WELL, LET BOB LET ME INTERJECT HERE. AND COUNCILMAN QUIROGA BRINGS UP A GOOD QUESTION IS THIS HIS INPUT OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WEIGHS IN? COUNCIL WON'T OFFICIALLY WEIGH ON? WEIGH IN ON THIS UNTIL DECEMBER 9TH. THAT'S FINE. BUT LISTOWSKI POINT THAT DOING THAT ON DECEMBER 9TH IS GOING TO LEAVE A SCANT TIME TO. CORRECT. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS TO HAVE YOU PUT OUT YOUR THOUGHTS AND THEN GET COUNCILS' REACTION SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHERE WE STAND WITH ALL THIS. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS I'VE WORKED WITH EVERYBODY HERE. I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS WHAT PEOPLE DOING IS AS LONG AS THEY'RE HAPPY ABOUT IT, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I DON'T INTERFERE WITH ONE, FIVE, FOUR OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE TOOK FROM FOUR TO ONE TO PUT IN FOR IT. I'M NOT OBJECTING AS LONG AS MY NUMBERS STAY THE SAME. SO, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, AND IT'S NO REFLECTION ON ONE, IT'S THE THE NUMBERS ARE NOT REALLY CHANGING. THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING ALL THE SAME PERCENTAGE WISE. OF THE THREE DEMOGRAPHICS. OK, THIS IS YOUR THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, COUNCILMAN QUIROGA. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THAT OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT JOG UP THERE? TO MEET THE NUMBERS. OH. YEAH. WHAT DO YOU MEAN TO MEET THE NUMBERS? IT'S ALREADY 2.54 OVER. WELL, IF YOU TOOK THAT AND PUT IT IN MY DISTRICT. BUT WHEN WE. MINE WOULD GO UP. I'M ALREADY AT 4.85. AND SO IF HE ADDS THAT BACK INTO MY DISTRICT, MY NUMBERS GO UP EVEN HIGHER. YEAH, THEY GIVE ME [INAUDIBLE] THAT'LL BRING YOUR NUMBERS DOWN. WELL BECAUSE DISTRICT ONE WAS TO GET RID OF THAT BLOCK IT INCREASED ME FROM 9,022 TO THE PRESENT BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE GRAPHICS, WHICH I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT, BUT IT MAY THROW THE PERCENTAGES OFF. BOB THE PERCENTAGES, IS IT OKAY? WELL, 2.45 I MEAN 2.54. YEAH, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE ETHNIC PERCENTAGES IS THE MAIN THING YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ARE FOUR AND ONE, AND THOSE DID NOT CHANGE DRAMATICALLY. YOU THINK [INAUDIBLE] DOESN'T CHANGE DRAMATICALLY? LET'S SEE. RIGHT. THE HISPANIC PERCENTAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN FOUR. NINE HUNDREDTHS OF A PERCENT DIFFERENT. BUT. AND OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T TOUCH ONE, SO. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT FOR THE RACIAL ETHNIC PERCENTAGES COULD FOR MY SAY, COULD YOU ZOOM? I GUESS THAT WOULD BE OUT TO GET. THERE WE GO. THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING COUNCILMAN QUIROGA. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS AND PLAN D JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE, COULD YOU? IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. OH, IT'S OK. I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE SCREEN. YEAH, LET ME JUST. OKAY. THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS AND OK. AND THEN GO BACK TO THE OTHER, IF WE COULD. OK. YOU GET AN INCREASE IN THE BLOCK THAT DISTRICT ONE WANTS TO GIVE UP. OK. ALL RIGHT. WHICH? ANY OTHER COMMENTS COUNCIL? DO YOU WANT COMMENTS ON THESE PARTICULAR CHANGES OR ARE YOU ASKING FOR FURTHER CHANGES? WELL, ANY OTHER CHANGES COUNCILMAN QUIROGA. I'M HAPPY THE WAY IT IS. ALL RIGHT, COMMENTS ON THAT. YEAH, THIS STARTS TO FIT THE DEFINITION OF GERRYMANDERING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD DO THIS. YOU'RE CUTTING. YOU'RE PRACTICALLY CUTTING DISTRICT FIVE AND HALF. BY DOING THIS, COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI WOULD HAVE TO GET OUT OF HIS DISTRICT TO GET FROM THE [00:30:06] NORTH HALF OF IT TO THE SOUTH HALF OF IT. THERE IS NO THERE'S NO ROAD THERE THAT WOULD, I THINK, TAKE HIM. MAYBE BAYOU WOULD BUT I AND WE ARE DIVIDING A NEIGHBORHOOD. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT, BILL. AND IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT PUBLICLY, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE [EXPLETIVE] I'M TALKING ABOUT IS I THINK WE KNOW WHO LIVES ON THE WEST SIDE OF BAYOU SHORES. AND SO. YEAH I KNOW A COUPLE OF DOCTORS USED TO LIVE THERE. YEAH. AND THIS IS JUST GERRYMANDERING THAT THE 61ST STREET. WHY WON'T WE JUST CUT IT THERE AT 61ST GIVE DISTRICT FIVE ALL OF THAT AND I'LL JUST GO RIGHT INTO THE DENVER COURT AREA. DON'T MATTER TO ME. WHAT DENVER COURT? CAN YOU? ISN'T DENVER COURT ALREADY? IF I CAN GIVE UP ALL OF THE SPACE TO GO THE WHOLE BLOCK OF DISTRICT FIVE? I CAN EXTEND FROM FORTY-FIFTH TO [INAUDIBLE] MAYBE ALL THE WAY TO CROCKETT. JOSH, ARE YOU GETTING THAT? YES. ARE YOU WANTING ME TO ACTIVELY MAKE THESE CHANGES? COUNCILMAN, YOU WANT HIM TO TRY TO SHOW THAT CHANGE? OH, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, I'M HAPPY WITH THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MR. COLLINS IS REFERRING TO, BUT. OK, SO IF WE COULD GO TO DISTRICT FIVE REAL QUICK BECAUSE IT AFFECTS MY DISTRICT? I MEAN, THIS IS JUST SPLITTING UP THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD DO THAT. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO TAKE ONE HALF OF A STREET THAT'S IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND TOTALLY REMOVE IT. WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS SITUATION ON PINE AND WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT IT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT IN THE PAST. AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY ISOLATED. IT'S NOT EVEN IT DOESN'T EVEN ON ONE SIDE OF IT, THERE'S NO HOUSES BECAUSE THESE HOUSES ARE ON THE WATER AND THEN IT TOTALLY TAKES ONE SIDE OF THIS STREET, PULLS IT OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S TOTALLY ISOLATED IN AND MOVES IT INTO THE OTHER DISTRICT. THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AT ALL. AND THEN YOU AND TO MAKE THAT WORK, YOU'VE GOT TO COME IN TO MY DISTRICT EVEN MORE AND SPLIT UP A STREET RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE AND PULL THIS OUT. I MEAN, THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE IN MY MIND WHATSOEVER. BOB, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU TURN AROUND AND GO DOWN 61ST STREET AND TAKE EVERYTHING OFF AND GIVE IT TO FIVE? WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE NUMBERS? JOSH. FROM 61ST STREET ON WEST IS [INAUDIBLE]. IT PUTS ME OVER. I'M ALREADY AT 4.85%. WELL, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SOME CHANGES. LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES THERE. ALL RIGHT. TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT, GIVE THAT BACK TO FIVE. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, IT THROWS FIVE. OK NOW. I HAVE NOW. PUT BAYOU SHORE IN BACK IN THERE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE PROBLEM. HOLD IT, HOLD IT, HOLD IT. LET ME, LET ME FINISH, AND THEN YOU CAN DO IT. WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO NEXT. OK, IF THAT PUTS THEM OVER POPULATION, THEN I CAN MOVE DOWN TO THE VOTING BLOC THAT GOES SOUTH OF 45TH STREET BECAUSE THAT'S THE BOUNDARY RIGHT NOW THAT IT ENDS ON 45TH AND S UNLESS. EXCUSE ME. NO, IT'S [INAUDIBLE]. SO YOU'RE SAYING GO STRAIGHT DOWN TO S OR GO DOWN. 45TH AND S GO STRAIGHT DOWN. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU GET THAT OVER ON THE EAST SIDE? THE LINE IS ALREADY ON FORTY-FIFTH. OK, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO NORTH OF, I'M SORRY, SOUTH OF AVENUE S. WHAT ARE THE BLOCKS THAT CAN BE CAPTURED THERE TO REDUCE THIS POPULATION? THIS DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM THAT I STATED THOUGH. THE PROBLEM IS, YOU'RE SPLITTING UP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON BAYOU SHORES. CORRECT? NO, NO, HE'S NOT. HE HASN'T DONE THAT YET, IF THAT WAS THE CASE. WE WOULD MAKE THAT CHANGE NOW.NEAR AT 13 PERCENT. SO YOU SPLIT UP THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN BAYOU SHORES. WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD? ON BAYOU SHORES. AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT AGAIN IS A CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORHOOD. FROM S. TO FORTY FIFTH STREET. AND YOU'RE TRYING TO SPLIT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD UP. I'M NOT TRYING TO SPLIT. I'M TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT BY BALANCING OUT, YOU ARE SPLITTING IT UP. YOU KNOW, BILL, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE BREAKING UP BAYOU SHORES, THAT'S [00:35:08] A COMMUNITY THAT'S A. IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ME, BUT I SURE LIKE TO KNOW WHAT MR. COLLINS IS REFERRING TO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO, EITHER, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE SPLITTING UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE. IF YOU GO STRAIGHT UP THE 61ST, HIS NUMBERS ARE STILL GOING TO BE OVER BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, PERIOD. SO HIS NUMBERS ARE STILL GOING TO BE OVER. WE GO STRAIGHT UP 61ST. [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THERE, 61ST ON WHERE YOU HIT 45 AND PUT THAT INTO DISTRICT FOUR. WHAT DOES THAT DO? YOU MEAN PUTTING BAYOU SHORES? [COUGHING] I'M SORRY, IS THAT THE BAYOU SHORES AREA? YES. OK. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. IF IT STILL KEEPS HIS DISTRICT WAY OVER. AND THAT'S WHY THAT AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF 61ST STREET WAS INCORPORATED INTO FOUR. THAT IS CORRECT. SO THAT I WON'T HAVE TO GO PAST 61ST STREET. I'D RATHER GO FROM F SOUTH. AND THEN THAT WAY, HE CAN REDUCE HIS POPULATION. I'M NOT GERRYMANDERING ACROSS 61ST STREET AND IT'S ALL UNIFORM BASICALLY LIKE IT WAS BEFORE. IT DOES, BUT IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T BECAUSE IF YOU KNEW THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE DENVER COURT AREA IS A CONTINUOUS NEIGHBORHOOD THE WAY IT WENT ACROSS 61ST STREET. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT MAIN STREETS THERE, THAT KIND OF SEPARATE OUT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO YOU HAD HERD'S LANE. I THINK WE WENT DOWN 85TH STREET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN BACK OVER TO STUART, WHICH IS KIND OF ITS OWN LITTLE AREA OF TOWN AND ITS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, ITS OWN PROBLEMS. SO YOU KNOW THAT MADE MUCH MORE SENSE TO ME THAN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW. WELL, RIGHT NOW THIS IS. THE WAY IT IS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF WE NEED TO TAKE AWAY FROM DISTRICT FIVE, I PREFER GOING SOUTH. BUT NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BLOCKS WE CAN TAKE AWAY TO BRING HIS NUMBERS DOWN. WE WENT OVER THIS. I'M NOT GERRYMANDERING OVER TO ANOTHER ANOTHER AREA. IT'S ALL UNIFORM. WELL, BUT IT DOES. IT BECOMES YOU MAY BE CONTIGUOUS ON THE MAP. BUT AS JOHN PAUL POINTS OUT, THAT DENVER COURT IS A PRETTY LARGE AREA AND IT IS A CONTIGUOUS HOMOGENOUS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. POINT. ISN'T THAT CORRECT? SURE. SURE, YOU CAN THAT. BUT NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT CENSUS BLOCKS. I'M TALKING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS, COMMUNITIES. WHAT IF YOU GO SOUTH ON 61ST TO T AND A HALF AND YOU PICK UP WHERE THAT 220 FOUR LINE IS? RIGHT THERE. NOW YOU'RE BACK AT ABOUT SEVEN. THAT BALANCES IT OUT. THIS RIGHT HERE. YES. AGAIN, THAT AREA IS KIND OF AN ISOLATED NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU'VE GOT STREETS THAT KIND OF DIVIDE THAT AREA UP INTO ITS OWN LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. JOHN, WHAT IS THAT GREEN SPACE BELOW? CEMETERY. OH, THANK YOU. YEAH. YES. THEN IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH. YOU'RE NOT BREAKING UP COMMUNITIES REALLY AT THAT POINT. RIGHT. I'M FINE WITH THAT CHANGE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. OK, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE'RE MOVING TO DISTRICT FIVE, JOHN. I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I THINK I HAVE LEFT IS THIS PINE ISSUE. PINE STREET ISSUE. CAN I COMMENT ON THAT? SURE. WHEN YOU KNOW WE'RE WELL UNDER, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MOVING A FEW HOUSES IN FROM FIVE INTO SIX. MARIE IS UNDER ZERO NOW AND YOU'RE OVER. SO THAT WOULD NOT. IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THREE OR FOUR, WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T GET US ANYWHERE CLOSER TO 10. AND I MEAN, WE CAN DO A COUNT OF THOSE THOSE HOUSES. [00:40:02] PROBLEM IS, IT'S CAUSED TOO [INAUDIBLE]. YOU KNOW, HE'S SAYING, IF ALL OF PINE. YEAH, MOVE ALL OF PINE, ALL OF OAK INTO FIVE, ALL THE PINE INTO SIX THAT'S. YEAH. AND I CONTENDED FROM THE BEGINNING THAT WE COULD DO THAT IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS HERE. I KNOW YOU CAN'T DO IT ON THE MAP EASILY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO BY ORDINANCE NEXT WEEK. AND WE DO THAT. IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT PINE, WHY DON'T JOSH, WHY DON'T YOU ZOOM IN ON THAT? WHEREVER AND LET ME SEE. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JONES, FROM STUART TO JONES. EVERY PINE ADDRESS WOULD BE IN SIX. OK. WHY DON'T? ONCE YOU PULL UP THE SATELLITE, JUST SO WE CAN GET AN IDEA HOW MANY HOUSES WE'RE LOOKING AT, PROBABLY ABOUT 60. GOD BLESS YOU. I'D BE SURPRISED IF THERE'S THAT MANY MORE. YEAH, BUT UP CLOSE, THOUGH, PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THERE. SO THAT BLOCK YOU JUST CLICKED ON. PROBABLY EVERY EVERYBODY IN THAT BLOCK THAT YOU JUST UNCLICKED. GO BACK AND CLICK. THAT BLOCK THERE IS PROBABLY THERE'S EVERYBODY IN THAT BLOCK IS PROBABLY ON PINE, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT ANOTHER HOUSE BESIDES THE ONES ON PINE, SO YOU COULD TAKE THAT COUNT. YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN DISTRICT SIX. OK. JUST JUST TO GET SOME NUMBERS HERE. CLICK THAT ONE AND THEN AND THEN COUNT THOSE HOUSES. WELL, THE NEXT ONE ABOVE IT GOES WAY INTO. WE DON'T HAVE A CONVENIENT WAY OF DIVIDING THAT, JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. IS THAT A WHOLE BLOCK THERE? IT'S JUST ONE BLOCK, YES. SO COULD WE JUST GET A COUNT ON THOSE HOUSES ALONG PINE QUICKLY? NOW YOU'RE COUNTING BOTH SIDES, ONLY COUNT ONE SIDE ONLY COUNT TOKEN, YEAH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THEIR DISTRICT LINE DOWN THE BACKYARD. MM HMM. KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING ALL THE WAY TO JONES. MM HMM. THERE YOU GO, RIGHT THERE. I JUST GOT 32. HOW MANY WAS THAT? IT'S THAT NUMBER SEEMS ABOUT RIGHT, IT'S ABOUT 30, 32. YEAH, [INAUDIBLE]. SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 60 PEOPLE OR SO, WHAT DO YOU USE FOR A HOUSE COUNT? WE WOULD PROBABLY USE THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE IN THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT MY GUESS, MAYBE AROUND THREE. OK. OR TWO. WELL, EVEN IF YOU USE THREE, THEN YOU WOULD TAKE 90 PEOPLE OUT OF FIVE AND MOVE 90 PEOPLE INTO SIX. I WOULD ACTUALLY GET FIVE AND SIX CLOSER INTO BALANCE ANYWAY. MOVE THEM BOTH CLOSER TO ZERO. MINE STILL WAY OUT OF BOUNDS. I MEAN, WE PUT MORE PEOPLE IN YOUR DISTRICT IF YOU NEED, IF YOU FEEL THAT. YOU NEED SOME MORE PEOPLE. I MEAN, I'M GOOD. OK. I HAVE THE LARGEST VOTING BLOC. SO, IS THAT WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO? IS THIS THE LINE WE WOULD HAVE TO DRAW AT THE END? YES. AFTER THE MAPS, WE WERE DONE. YEAH. OK. ALL RIGHT. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT? [00:45:02] FIRST OF ALL, JOHN, THAT MEETS YOUR APPROVAL? YES, SIR. AND MARIE, THAT MEETS YOURS. SO HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT? CAN YOU GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE DATA HERE? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CHANGE THE DEVIATION. PROBABLY VERY LITTLE. 90 PEOPLE AND WE'RE MOVING THEM FROM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE. FIVE TO SIX. FIVE TO SIX. FROM FIVE TO SIX. YES, SIR. NO, THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE THAT HARDLY NO. SEE FIVE WOULD GO DOWN. RIGHT, SIX WOULD GO UP A LITTLE BIT UP. SIX WOULD GO UP AND THREE AND FOUR WOULD STILL BE YOUR OUTLIER. CORRECT. THAT DETERMINED THE DEVIATION. GOOD. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. AND I THINK THEY WOULD GO UP BY ABOUT ONE PERCENT OR DOWN BY ABOUT ONE PERCENT. OK. MAKE IT BALANCE THOSE DISTRICTS OUT EVEN A LITTLE BETTER. JOHN, IS THAT ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD WANT ON THAT? I THINK THAT'S IT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THAT THEN, TO REFLECT THAT MARIE AND DISTRICT SIX. PINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE, AND IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE IT IN MY DISTRICT. IF THEY FELT LIKE THEY NEEDED TO ADD MORE, WE COULD MAYBE CONTINUE DOWN THE SEAWALL. OK. WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO BALANCE THERE ALREADY. WELL, AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT YOU. IF LOOK AT DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT SIX IS THE FURTHEST UNDER. THAT'S A MINUS 3.89. YEAH. SO NOTHING ELSE ON SIX MARIE. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. COULD YOU? AND JUST NOTICING SOMETHING WHEN YOU CHANGE CHANNEL VIEW UP THERE AT THE TOP THAT FIRST CHANGE WE MADE. IF YOU COULD ZOOM OUT, I GUESS YOU'LL CLEAN UP SOME OF THAT STUFF LIKE THAT PLACE. NOT THAT ANYBODY LIVES HERE, BUT WHERE IT SAYS ONE. YES, WE'LL HAVE TO MANUALLY CUT THAT BECAUSE THE CENSUS BLOCKED OUT THIS ENTIRE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION. THERE'S THERE'S NO POPULATION, BUT THAT'S JUST HOW IT CAME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. BILL, I MEAN, BOB, I WOULD ASSUME THIS WOULD BE VERSION E AS AN EGG. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, WE CAN. SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER. ALL RIGHT. IT SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE ARE PRETTY. OK WITH THAT. AND YOU'RE YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO CLOSE OUR MEANING. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS? WELL, ACTUALLY, WHEN LOUIS AND I ARE HAVING A SIDE CONVERSATION HERE ABOUT THE DISPARITY IN POPULATION BETWEEN ONE AND THREE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOGIC. WE'RE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE 10 PERCENT AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOGICAL PLACE. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS TO GO ACROSS 25TH STREET IS WOULD WOULD BE A CHANGE IN NEIGHBORHOOD FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE AREA WEST OF 25TH WOULD BE A NECESSARY CHANGE. AND I THINK THE SAME IS PROBABLY TRUE GOING DOWN INTO INTO DISTRICT TWO SOUTH OF BROADWAY. SO I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS. DISPARITY AND POPULATE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, I KNOW DISTRICT THREE IS 3.89 PERCENT UNDER AND DISTRICT ONE IS 2.7 PERCENT UNDER. SO IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE BALANCE REALLY TO MOVE ANY ANYONE FROM ANY AREA FROM ONE TO THREE. BUT IT WOULD, I THINK, [INAUDIBLE] IMPINGE ON SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, SOME CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO AVOID THAT. SO I'M IF SHARON IS HAPPY WITH IT, I'M HAPPY WITH IT. OK, OK. WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE GOOD COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. BOB, THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. [3. PUBLIC COMMENT] IT IS 9:49 A.M. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT NOW THAT COUNCILS HAD THEIR DISCUSSIONS. JANELLE, ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. BERNICE HALL. BERNICE. GO RIGHT AHEAD, PLEASE. AND BERNICE, WE NORMALLY GIVE THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL RELAX THAT RULE JUST A LITTLE. IF YOU NEED TO GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE AND GO RIGHT AHEAD, BERNICE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, MY QUESTION IS IF I'M IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. DOES THIS HAVE A MEETING OR DOES THESE LINES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WEST TEXAS CITY? NO, MA'AM. OK, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE I WAS AT THE RIGHT PLACE. [00:50:03] OK. THIS DOESN'T AFFECT WEST TEXAS CITY AT ALL. YES, THIS IS JUST ON THE ISLAND HERE. ISLAND. OK, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ONLINE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE WITH THEIR HAND UP, BUT I CAN ASK ONE MORE TIME IF ANYONE'S ON THE ZOOM CALL. THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT IF YOU WOULD RAISE YOUR HAND AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. NO RESPONSE. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE ROOM HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL THE CALLER ON THE CALL. IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ME NOT BEING CONCERNED ABOUT MY DISTRICT, I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONTACT ME DIRECTLY. WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO HAVE AN INTEREST IN GALVESTON, AS IT IS NOTABLE THAT, YES, I AM A CANDIDATE FOR A COUNTY JUDGE. NONETHELESS, I DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT ALL MUNICIPALITIES HAVE EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DISTRICTS LOOK LIKE. SO AGAIN, TO THAT CALLER WHO ASKED THAT QUESTION, YOU CAN CONTACT ME DIRECTLY NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT GALVESTON LOOKS LIKE, I AM A NATIVE OF DISTRICT ONE. I'M A NATIVE OF THIS TOWN, SO THAT PASSION DOES NOT GO AWAY. AGAIN, I WANT TO ENSURE EQUITABLE DISTRICTS AND LINES ACROSS THE BOARD, IN THE COUNTY AND FOR WHATEVER, WHEREVER I CHOOSE TO REPRESENT. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO CRASH YOUR PARTY TODAY. [LAUGHTER] IT IS NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU AFFAIRS JUST AGAIN. I AM TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR CONSTITUENTS OF GALVESTON COUNTY. THANK YOU, YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. TELL YOUR MAYOR. HELLO TOO. NO PROBLEM. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS OF THOSE IN THE ROOM? HEARING NO RESPONSE. IT IS 9:52 A.M. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. DECEMBER 9TH WE WILL VOTE ON THESE REDISTRICTING LINES, AS WE WOULD CALL IT, VERSION DRAFT PLAN E, AS AN EGG. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT TO THE PUBLIC HERE VERY SHORTLY. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR ATTENDING. WE ARE ADJOURNED AND. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.