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IT IS 9:00 AM AND I'M OFFICIALLY CALLING[Call to Order]
THE WORKSHOP FOR CITY COUNCIL FOR NOVEMBER 10TH TO ORDER.I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY IN THE CHAIR IN THE ROOM.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE STAFF. THANK YOU.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING THIS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT, AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM VICTOR STAFF LAW FIRM WITH US TODAY AND DON WILL BE INTRODUCING THEM COMING UP HERE SHORTLY.
TODAY, WE HAVE A TALKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING ONLY AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
JANELLE, IF YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE MA'AM.
>> VERY GOOD. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM TODAY.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE STRAIGHT TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS
[3.A. Discuss Preliminary Redistricting Proposals And Possible Suggestions For Amendments In Furtherance Of The City's Redistricting Process]
BEFORE JANELLE READS THAT COUNCIL JUST SOME THOUGHTS.FIRST OF ALL, NO ACTION TODAY.
WE'LL JUST BE DISCUSSING THESE TOPICS, THERE WILL BE NO VOTING AND DECIDING DEFINITELY ON ANY OF THESE TOPICS TODAY.
WE DO HAVE FUTURE MEETINGS PLANNED FOR REDISTRICTING FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING.
THE EVENING OF DECEMBER 1ST IS A PUBLIC MEETING FOR DISCUSSION OF REDISTRICTING.
WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AS WE HAVE SINCE THIS MORNING ON DECEMBER 2ND AT 9.00 AM.
THEN ON DECEMBER 9TH AT OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WE WILL MAKE AND VOTE ON OUR FINAL APPROVAL OF OUR REDISTRICTING MAP AT THAT POINT.
SAYING THAT, JANELLE, IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND READ ITEM 3A, PLEASE MA'AM.
>> THREE A, DISCUSS PRELIMINARY REDISTRICTING PROPOSALS AND POSSIBLE SUGGESTIONS FOR AMENDMENTS AND FURTHER INTO THE CITY REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
>> BEFORE WE LEAD THIS OFF, I THINK DON IS GOING TO INTRODUCE TO OUR GUEST IN A SECOND HERE AND LEAD THIS ALL.
BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL ON COUNCILMAN COLLINS.
HE WENT THROUGH THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS 10 YEARS AGO.
HE'S BEEN MONITORING THIS ONE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING.
I THINK DAVID, YOU WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
>> YEAH. MAYOR DORSKY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO INCLUDE THE CONSIDERATION FROM THE PUBLIC SIDE IN 2010.
THERE WERE A LOT OF CHANGES MADE.
A LOT OF DISTRICT LINES, AND I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE THAT PROBLEM TODAY.
THE COMBINATION OF THE MAPS A AND C, I THINK BETWEEN THEM, WILL THEY GIVE US A VERY GOOD PICTURE OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT TOO MUCH DISRUPTION EITHER TO EXISTING DISTRICTS WITH THE ANYONE WITH RISK.
I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH MR. COLOSOPY ON THIS.
I THINK WE HAVE A GUEST TODAY WHO'S GOING TO HELP US DO THIS.
>> THANK YOU. HE'S ON THE TV SCREEN.
>> PLEASE JOHN, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
>> ON THE TELEVISION SCREEN TO THE LEFT YOU WILL SEE OUR ESTEEMED COUNCIL, BOB HEATH OF THE FICKER STAR FIRM.
I'VE WORKED WITH BOB ON REDISTRICTING MATTERS WHEN I WORKED FOR THE COUNTY.
BOB ALSO DID THE CITY REDISTRICTING 10 YEARS AGO, SO HE'S GOT SOME WITH THE CITY.
HE HAS PRODUCED WHAT I THINK IS A VERY, VERY GOOD BASIS FOR TODAY'S DISCUSSION.
WE SHOULD GET PRETTY FAR DOWN THE ROAD AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE A VERY COMPRESSED TIME PERIOD TO DO THIS REDISTRICTING AND WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE IN DECEMBER.
BUT I THINK BOB HAS MOVED FOR PRETTY FAR DOWN THE COURT AND LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. BOB, GOOD MORNING?
>> BOB, JUST A SECOND, [OVERLAPPING] BOB WE NEED TO TURN YOUR VOLUME UP, JUST ONE SECOND.
>> MAYBE HE COULD TURN HIS UP TOO.
>> CAN YOU TURN YOURS UP TOO BOB IN SOME MANNER? YOUR VOLUME? [NOISE]
>> LET'S TRY THERE AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
>> GO RIGHT AHEAD, BOB, LET'S SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
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>> GO RIGHT AHEAD LET'S SEE HOW THIS IS.
>> WELL, THE REAL FUNCTION HERE IS GEORGE BRISTAL.
HE'S GOING TO BE SHARING HIS PLAN.
THE IDEA IS TO GET HIS PLAN ON YOUR BOARD TO TEACH YOU THROUGH IT.
IT WILL HAVE PLAN B, I THINK IS ONE THAT WE SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE ONE FORUM.
WE DID AMC AND YOU CAN CHOOSE WHICHEVER ONE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] DO WE HAVE THE BUMPS FOR A?
>> WE TOOK THEM AMONG LIKE [OVERLAPPING] AGENCY.
WE TOOK THE EXISTING PLAN AND WE DREW IT TO GET INTO BALANCE AND TALK AND TALK WITH THE IDEA THAT IF B HERE, THE THOUGHT WITH AN IMBALANCED PLAN A LITTLE IS JUST THAT AS YOU NEED TO DEBATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A AND C IS AIM WITH THE FIRST ONE WE DID.
TO GET THE POPULATION NOW WE MOVE FORTH FOR HOURS FROM 1-3 AND THERE WAS SOME BUMP DIPLOMA GRADUATED BACK INDEED.
THEN WE GET TO MOVE ABOUT 12 PERCENT OF DRAWING OUT.
BUT EITHER ONE WILL BALANCE AND THIS IS PART OF THE JOB.
>> CAN YOU PUT YOUR SCREEN UP?
>> YEAH. VERY QUICKLY FIND BY HEAD TO THE WINDS.
A LOT OF POPULATION NO MATTER WHAT PLAN WE'RE WORKING ON, READ IT SOME OF THAT THICK BEST FOR EASY THE FIFTH COLUMN.
[NOISE] FIVE IS THE ONLY THINGS THAT PICKED THE BORDER THEN THAT POINT TARGET POPULATION.
BUT IT'S A LITTLE SMALL FILE, WAS OVERPOPULATED AND ADDITION TWO GET SOME ADDITIONAL ONES THAT ALREADY IS.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE, I GET [NOISE] CALLED THE WORKPLACE WHEN THE PAGE IS SHOWN AT THE BOTTOM, 3.6 POPULATION.
WE CAN MOVE THAT UP. THEY WANTED TO DO.
BUT I GUESS BEFORE WE SHOW UP ON THE BRAIN, THERE WE GO.
THIS ONE IS TOTAL DEVIATION OF 4.4 FEET FOR FAN WHO'VE ALREADY UNDER HANDBOOK BAN PREVENTING LAND AND DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEVIATION OF 38.48 PERCENT.
WE HAD TO MAKE CERTAIN SUGGESTIONS, SO LOOK AT THOSE [INAUDIBLE].
I GUESS, IS THE RED THE OLD DISTRICT?
>> THE RED IS THE ORIGINAL COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT WAS SET OUT FIRST.
>> CAN I MAKE SUGGESTION THAT WE LOOK AT MAP A, I THINK FOLLOWING A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD AROUND TOWN A MIGHT ACTUALLY BE CLOSER TO WHAT WE NEED, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE.
BECAUSE ONE OF OUR RESEARCH, HAS THE IMPACT ON EXISTING DISTRICTS AND EXISTING FOLDERS.
>> JOSH. YEAH. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
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>> [BACKGROUND] YEAH. THIS IS THE DISTRICT EXPLORER.
>> IS THAT PLAN A? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THIS IS FOR PLAN A. I THINK THIS HAS A COUPLE OF ADVANTAGES, AND THAT IT DOES LEAVE PELICAN ISLAND IN THE REEF, AND IT DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE A LOT OF CHANGE ON THAT END.
>> NO, I'M ASKING HER IF SHE COULD PRINT THAT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT UP CLOSE.
>> IF WE CAN START WITH DISTRICT 6.
YOU'VE MADE A COUPLE OF MODS THERE AND I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THOSE LINES WERE DRAWN.
COUNCILMAN ROB HAD A CONCERN ABOUT HOW ONE OF THOSE LINES WHICH I THINK IS AN [OVERLAPPING] EXISTING LINE.
>> JOSH, LEAN ONTO 6 PINE, YOU'LL SEE THEM A LITTLE BETTER.
>> [BACKGROUND] IS THAT HELPFUL?
I CAN SPEAK FOR MY OWN DISTRICT THOUGH.
ON THE MAP HERE, PINE STREET, I HAVE ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND DISTRICT 5 HAS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD UNTIL YOU GET TO THE VERY TOP OF PINE STREET.
THEN, I CAPTURE THE BOTH SIDES OF PINE STREET AND IT GOES OVER TO OAK.
WE HAVE ALREADY HAD TWO CONTESTED ELECTIONS BECAUSE OF ISSUES OF PEOPLE VOTING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET FOR THE WRONG DISTRICT.
TO ME, WHAT WOULD BE IDEAL IS TO TAKE THE DIVIDING LINE AND JUST BRING IT UP TO JONES AND THEN GO ACROSS.
>> TAKE PINE STREET DUE NORTH.
>> RIGHT THERE, AND DRAW THE LINE AT JONES.
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT LITTLE JOG IN THERE.
>> I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE.
IT WASN'T THERE ORIGINALLY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IS THAT APARTMENTS THERE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEN TAKE PINE STREET FROM WHERE IT MEETS STUART ROAD AT THE SOUTH END AND EXTEND IT DUE STRAIGHT.
>> NO. THAT'S NOT STUART. [BACKGROUND]
>> NO. THE VERY SOUTH, IT IS DIVIDED BY [OVERLAPPING]
>> I UNDERSTAND, I'M SAYING TAKE THAT LINE AND EXTEND THAT STRAIGHT NORTH ON PINE.
>> BEFORE YOU DO THAT, CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? WHY DO THESE LINES HAVE TO GO DOWN STREETS?
>> DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE FIRST FOR [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW?
>> I WOULD SAY KEEP IT GOING NORTH THERE.
>> KEEP IT GOING NORTH, NORTH OF PINE.
>> JOHN, COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] HAS A QUESTION WHICH IS, WHY STREETS ARE THE DIVIDING LINES? [BACKGROUND]
>> ON THE STREETS? [OVERLAPPING] ONE THING IS THAT ARE VISIBLE ON THE GROUND.
THE OTHER THING IS, IN ORDER TO KNOW WHAT THE POPULATION IS, WE NEED THESE SETS OF BLOCKS.
SET OF BLOCKS WILL DEFINE GENERALLY AND CERTAINLY AN OPEN AREA ON GALVESTON ABOUT STREET.
SO WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO USE THE STREET.
>> BUT YOU DON'T ALWAYS USE THE STREET.
YOU'VE GOT LINES GOING DOWN BODIES OF WATER, YOU'VE GOT LINES GOING DOWN ROADWAYS THAT ORANGE CITY STREETS, THAT ARE PRIVATE STREETS.
I HAVEN'T HEARD A GOOD REASON WHY YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE ALTERNATIVE TO GO BETWEEN HOUSES?
>> YEAH. BECAUSE PINE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, SO ONE SIDE OF PINE, YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT IN THE OTHER SIDE, BUT YOUR ISSUES ARE THE SAME.
>> WHY CAN'T YOU PUT ALL OF PINE BOTH SIDES?
>> IN ONE DISTRICT OR THE OTHER?
>> WE DID THAT IN ONE AND TWO JUST RECENTLY, AND THERE'S I WOULD SAY ON 25TH.
>> WE CAN REMOVE THAT LINE BUT WE HAVE TO THINK WHAT IT DOES TO THE POPULATION.
>> YEAH NOT ALWAYS, BUT I'M SYMPATHETIC TO WHAT JOHN PAUL IS SAYING BECAUSE WE DO THIS THING, BUT WE HAVE ADDED THIS THERE, IT'S A LOT EASY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE IS IN AN ALLY AND I NOW SEE THEM.
YOU COULDN'T DO IT BEHIND IT, BUT YOU COULD BRING THE OTHER SIDE OF PINE INTO MY DISTRICT.
BUT I'D HATE TO SEE YOU LOSE MORE PEOPLE.
>> I'D RATHER SEE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES THAT ARE ON THE SAME BLOCK, HAVE ONE COUNCILPERSON.
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>> WHEN I'M ADDRESSING MY STREET ISSUES IN PINE, I OBVIOUSLY ADDRESS BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO.
>> DAVID, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, JUST A THOUGHT, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT GOING THROUGH THIS DISTRICT-WISE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I THINK STARTING AT 6 AND MOVING EAST IS EASIER TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS ONE AT A TIME.
>> OKAY. COULD YOU MAKE A NOTE OF THOSE CHANGES THAT WE DECIDE POINT ON 6, AND THEN LET YOU GIVE THOSE TO BOB AND WE CAN SEE HOW THE MAP CHANGES.
>> WHY CAN'T WE SPEAK FOR OUR OWN DISTRICTS?
>> YOU CAN, YOU NEED TO SPEAK FOR YOUR OWN DISTRICT.
DAVID'S GOING TO WRITE ALL THESE DOWN, SO WE'RE NOT CONSTANTLY GOT A LOT GOING ON AT ONE TIME.
BUT KNOW, YOU'LL BE SPEAKING FOR YOUR OWN DISTRICT.
>> BETTER HAVE JANELLE DO THAT.
>> THAT'S FINE WITH ME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHEN WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WITH AUDIO WHERE EVERYBODY IS TALKING BACK AND FORTH.
SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO HEAR BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE OVERLAPPING.
WHEN WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE OF THOUGHT OR IDEA OF SOMEBODY, WE CAN RELAY THAT TO US, I THINK WE'LL HAVE MORE ACCURACY.
>> YEAH, WE NEED TO WRITE THIS DOWN.
[OVERLAPPING] WHERE IS JANELLE?
>>SHE WENT TO GET MAP A. DAVID FOR THE TIME BEING, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND WRITE THESE DOWN ON THE DISTRICTS AND BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT DISTRICT, WE'LL GIVE THESE TO BOB.
>> THE FIRST THING THAT MARIA SUGGESTS IS TO FOLLOW PINE TO JONES AS OPPOSED TO JOGGING OFF TO OAK.
THAT DISTRICT [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW MOVE THAT INTO DISTRICT 5.
>> BUT WE SHOULD EITHER PUT PINE IN MY DISTRICT OR PINE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> GOOD. FAIR QUESTION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WOULD PROBABLY BE TO PUT PINE IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE FACT NOW BEHIND PINE ON THE LEFT SIDE, THERE'S BEEN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, SO YOU CAN'T DO IT BEHIND IT.
>> BUT THEN PUT ALL OF OAK INTO THIS.
>> I'M SORRY, I'M NOT HEARING.
>> THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU PUT BOTH SIDES OF THAT STREET IN DISTRICT 6 AND BOTH SIDES OF OAK STREET IN DISTRICT 5, THAT IS TO DIVIDE ESSENTIAL PROPERTY LINES BEHIND THAT?
>> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I CAN SEE IS TO PUT BOTH 5 WITH PINE AND 6, AND JUDGE CORRECTLY IF I'M WRONG BUT THE BLOCK BELOW RIGHT THERE IF YOU LOOK [INAUDIBLE]
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CENSUS BLOCK?
>> WE'D HAVE TO TAKE ALL OF THAT.
>> BY GOING OVER TO [INAUDIBLE], WHATEVER THAT IS [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, LET ME ASK A PROCESS QUESTION HERE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US BY SHOWING THIS ON THE MAP, BUT THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE].
WHAT LEGALLY DO WE HAVE TO COME AWAY FROM THIS WITH? A BALANCED PLAN THAT WE CAN GIVE TO MS. JOHNSON SO THAT SHE CAN ASSIGN VOTERS TO DISTRICTS?
>> OUR OBLIGATION IS TO COME UP WITH A BALANCED PLAN WITH VARIATIONS NO MORE THAN 10 PERCENT FROM THE HIGHEST TO THE LOWEST ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA THAT YOU VOTED ON AT THE LAST MEETING.
THE CONSIDERATION FOR MS. JOHNSON HAVING TO LITERALLY DRAW VOTING PRECINCTS WITH A PENCIL ON A TABLE.
I THINK IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER.
>> I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD OBJECT IF WE CAME BACK TO HER WITH A PLAN THAT SAID PUT EVERYBODY ON PINE STREET IN DISTRICT 6.
SHE'S INTERESTED FOR ME WITH THAT ISSUE.
AS BOB WAS SAYING, YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON THE GIS MAP BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW THE CENSUS BLOCKS ARE LAID OUT.[OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT OAK STREET, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSES.
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>> YEAH. BUT DON'T INCLUDE THAT ONE.
INCLUDE JUST THE ONE ABOVE IT.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PORT ABOVE JONES.
SEE WHERE IT'S ABOVE JONES, ABOVE THAT LITTLE BLOCK? IF YOU TAKE PINE AND YOU PUT IT IN MIND, AND THEN THAT BLOCK THAT'S ABOVE IT, WHICH IS 73RD STREET WHAT-NOT, YOU COULD PUT THAT IN 5.
>> YEAH, BUT I DON'T THINK WILL RESOLVE THE QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU CAN PUT ALL OF PINE IN ONE DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO 73RD STREET.
>> I KNOW BUT BECAUSE HE'S SAYING THIS MAKES IT DIFFICULT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I GET THAT BUT I'M STILL ON THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE'S A WAY TO DO THIS THAT GETS US AN ANSWER.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, LET'S GET THAT QUICK BUTTON.
JOHN, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.
>> THIS CENSUS BLOCK KEEPS COMING UP.
LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND A CENSUS BLOCK.
BOB, CAN YOU SHOW ME A COUPLE OF CENSUS BLOCKS IN THIS AREA? IS THAT ON THIS MAP?
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE YELLOW THERE IS A CENSUS BLOCK?
>> IT'S A HIGHLIGHTED CENSUS BLOCK, YES.
ALL OF THE GREEN OUTLINED AREAS ARE INDIVIDUAL BLOCKS.
>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CANNOT SPLIT A CENSUS BLOCK?
PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE TO RECOGNIZE THE BOUNDARY THAT WILL SPLIT CENSUS BLOCK, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BOUNDARIES IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
YOU PROBABLY DON'T EVEN HAVE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] WHICH NOBODY COULD SEE ON THE GROUND.
ALSO, WE DON'T HAVE POPULATION NUMBER TO THAT.
SOMETIMES WE COULD ESTIMATE THOSE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ACTUAL POPULATION.
>> BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING POPULATION DATA FROM THE CENSUS BLOCK AND YOU DON'T WANT TO PHYSICALLY COUNT THE NUMBERS IN THE CENSUS BLOCK?
>> THE QUESTION THAT I'M ASKING IS, IF WE DID THIS BY CENSUS BLOCK WHERE DO WE PUT IN ON THE MAP HERE? THEN FOLLOWING THAT, ONCE WE HAVE IT LAID OUT THE WAY WE WANTED, IF WE DECIDED TO GO BACK AND INCLUDE THOSE PEOPLE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF PINE IN D6 AND TELL THE VOTER REGISTRAR THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE KEEP A COUNT OF THAT.
ARE WE SOMEHOW DONE OUTSIDE THE LAW?
>> I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I WAS VERY FIRST ON COUNCIL, BOTH SIDES OF PINE VOTED IN THE ELECTION.
[OVERLAPPING] IT DIDN'T GO UP TO OAK.
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN I RAN THIS TIME, IT WAS LIKE, OH NOW IT OAK'S OVER THE 73RD NOW.
IN 2010, IT WAS DIFFERENT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WAS DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S STILL FOLLOWS CENSUS BLOCK LINES.
>> YEAH BUT IN THE NEXT ELECTION IT WAS DIFFERENT, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN ISSUES IN THAT ONE LITTLE SECTION.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THE VOTERS DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE CENSUS BLOCKS.
>> NOR DO THEY NEED TO, IN MY OPINION.
>> WELL, THEY DON'T UNTIL THEY GO TO VOTE BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE ON A STREET AND THAT THEIR NEIGHBOR IS IN THE SAME BLOCK THAT THEY ARE MOST OF THE TIME.
I MEAN, WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS FOR A POTHOLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET [LAUGHTER] IT IS DOWN THE LINE, DO THEY CALL DISTRICT 5 OR DO THEY CALL THIS DISTRICT 6?
>> THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL THE CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY.
>> I'M GOING TO RESTATE MY QUESTION.
IF WE WERE TO [LAUGHTER] IT THIS WAY BY CENSUS BLOCK, AND GET TO AN ANSWER AND THEN DECIDE THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE THAT BLOCK OF PINE, JUST THOSE FACING PINE IN D5 AND MOVE THEM INTO D6 AND NOTIFY THE VOTER REGISTRAR THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE WERE REASONABLY CERTAIN THAT WE WEREN'T IMBALANCING THE NUMBERS TO ANY GREAT DEGREE, COULD WE NOT DO THAT?
I GUESS YOU'D HAVE TO WRITE THE BOUNDARY OF DISTRICT 6 SAYS THE BACKYARD FENCE OF EVERYBODY ON PINE.
>> BUT IS THAT HOW IT'S REALLY WRITTEN? DON'T YOU WRITE THIS STUFF BY ADDRESS? WITHIN A CENSUS BLOCK, DON'T YOU USE ADDRESSES?
>> YOU DON'T USE PHYSICAL BOUNDARIES.
>> GIS WHAT THOUGH I MEAN? [NOISE]
>> IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE YOU SENT.
I THINK I MADE SOME CHANGES TO IT AND NOW I CAN FIX IT.
[OVERLAPPING] THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU SENT ME.
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I KNOW I MADE SOME CHANGES TO IT.>> COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF, PLEASE?
>> THE WOMAN WHO IS SPEAKING, COULD YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF?
>> THANK YOU. APPARENTLY NOT. THAT'S OKAY.
>> MOVING FORWARD. [INAUDIBLE], EXCUSE ME.
WE HAVE SOMEONE COMING ONLINE.
IS THERE SOMEONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT'S SPEAKING UP? IS THAT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING?
>> IT APPEARS TO BE BEVERLY WEST [OVERLAPPING].
>> SHE'S ONE OF OUR ATTORNEYS.
IF SHE'S SPEAKING, DON, CAN YOU BRING HER OVER HERE?
>> HARRY IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT NOW.
>> OKAY. LET'S CONSIDER SOLVING THAT FACING STREET PROBLEM LATER AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.
>> SORRY. EXCUSE ME, DAVID, I THINK WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT FACING STREET PROBLEM NOW.
>> WELL, IF THEY WOULD, BUT CLEARLY THEY CAN'T DO IT ON THE SCREEN.
>> LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT IT IS SOLVED AND THAT WE WILL PUT THAT AS A RECOMMENDED CHANGE INTO OUR REDISTRICTING PLAN.
>> YEAH. LET'S ASSUME THAT THEY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THEY CAN.
>> THEN DON, CAN YOU COME HERE? THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
SO PINE GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO JONES AND THEN ALL THAT WOULD GO INTO DISTRICT 5.
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT PART NORTH OF JONES?
>> PARTNERS WHILE WE SOLVE THIS ON A SCREEN HERE.
>> BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT JOGS OVER AND GOES UP AND PICKS THERE, WHICH I'VE BEEN FINE WHEN KEEPING THAT BUT IF WE GO ON AND TAKE OAK AND PUT IN A FULLY INTO 6, THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO CONTINUE UP.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPLIT PINE, SPLIT IT ALL THE WAY TO JONES?
>> YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. COME UP HERE.
>> WELL, SPLIT IT ALL THE WAY TO STUART ROAD, YOU MEAN.
>> WELL, FROM STUART TO JONES.
>> YEAH. BUT AM TALKING ABOUT THIS OVER HERE.
>> I'M NOT SO SURE I DO START WITH AT 6 NOW. [LAUGHTER]
>> SO THEN, RIGHT NOW, I COME UP AND GO OVER AND GO UP 73RD.
TACTICALLY, THAT COULD GO INTO 6.
>> I MEAN, EITHER WAY, WE COULD JUST MAKE IT A CLEAN LINE THERE.
>> WELL, THE TROUBLE IS I DON'T KNOW THAT IT GETS TO BE A PLAIN LINE NOT GOING [OVERLAPPING] NOT FOLLOWING STREETS, SOME PLACE.
>> OKAY, THEN JUST LEAVE THEM IN IT, JUST GIVE IT ALL TO PINE TAKE THE DIVIDING LINE DOWN THE BACK.
LOOKS LIKE THERE IS THIS SORT OF THAT NOW [INAUDIBLE].
>> ON OPPOSITE, HOW IF YOU DO IT THERE.
HOW MANY OTHER PLACES ARE YOU DOING IT? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT YOUR ONLY PROBLEM.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH 73RD STREET? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M SAYING EITHER TAKE 73RD AND PUT IT INTO FIVE, OR TAKE 73RD WHERE IT IS NOW AND LEAVING IT.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF HELP THERE.
>> SEVENTY THIRD IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN PINE THOUGH.
THE HOUSES, THERE'S A LOT OF OFF STREETS THAT ARE GOING DOWN 73RD.
IT'S NOT A CONTINUOUS NEIGHBORHOOD AS PINE IS.
>> I MEAN, PINE GOES FROM STUART ALL THE WAY TO JONES.
THE HOUSES FACE EACH OTHER ALL ALONG THAT STREET.
WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO 73RD STREET, THERE'S A LOT OF SIDE STREETS.
THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES THAT DON'T FACE 73RD STREET.
THERE'S HOUSES THAT BACKUP TO 73RD STREET.
I THINK THAT STREET IS A GOOD DIVIDING LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
>> THIS SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.
WHY DON'T WE LET THESE DISTRICT 5 AND 6 TO GET TOGETHER TO GET WITH DON TO SEE WHAT'S THE MOST FEASIBLE WAY TO GO.
>> I THINK WE JUST DID. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
DISTRICT 6, I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE THE EASIEST.
[OVERLAPPING] A QUARTER OF PINE.
>> WE HAD A QUESTION WE NEEDED ANSWERED HERE AND I THINK WE GOT THAT ANSWERED.
BUT I THINK WE'RE, MARIE, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
IF YOUR GOOD WITH THAT, WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
>> YEAH. WE TAKE THAT PINE ALL THE WAY UP TO JONES.
IT JOGS OVER TO THE RIGHT, IT GOES UP 73RD AND STAYS THE WAY IT IS.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES IS OAK BECOMES YOURS.
>> OKAY. LET'S GET THIS IN WRITING.
JANELLE, HAVE YOU WRITTEN IT DOWN? OKAY, REPEAT IT BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS.
>> WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW PINE NORTH TO JONES INSTEAD OF OAK STREET.
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BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO DIVIDE THE BLOCK TO MAKE SURE ALL OF PINE STREET FACES INTO DISTRICT 6.>> ALL OF OAK STREET FACES UP TO DISTRICT 5.
YOU'VE GOT BOTH THOSE WRITTEN DOWN, DAVID. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> MAYOR, THIS IS BEING RECORDED.
>> GOOD. THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING]
THE YELLOW BLOCK MOVE THAT IN 5.
>> I THINK RIGHT NOW LEAVE IT IN 5 AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT.
>> THE YELLOW BLOCK EXCEPT FOR PINES STREET.
>> NO, THE CENSUS TRACT THAT'S THERE SHOULD BE IN D5 BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF PINE AND IF WE DIVIDE THAT LATER, WE'LL FIGURE THAT WHOLE STREET OUT.
YOU SEE, IF YOU LEAVE IT IN 5 HERE, WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT. NEVER MIND THE RED LINE.
>> NO, BUT THEN YOU'RE DIVIDING PINE INTO TWO STREETS.
>> WE DO THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE MAP NOW. WE WILL FIX THAT LATER.
>> YEAH AND EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE IN A SITUATION [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THINK THE COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] POINT HERE.
THIS IS A CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, MOST OF THE PLACES, 14TH STREET, BROADWAY, 53RD, 45TH, ARE MAJOR STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF THIS TODAY.
>> THEN THE OTHER CHANGE, WHICH IS FINE.
I ASSUME IT IS FINE WITH YOU WHERE IT GOES DOWN TO LAST OR TO 69TH STREET.
>> THAT'S THE BOTTOM. THE NEW THE NEW LITTLE.
>> LET ME LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION IF I CAN, BOB, IF YOU MOVE NORTH JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE MAP, UP 73RD STREET.
JUST FROM MY INFORMATION, WHY IS THAT ONE LITTLE SECTION, THAT LITTLE SQUARE PIECE THAT IS IN D5 THAT CUTS IN, JUST TO YOUR LEFT.
THAT'S D6, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
WHY IS THAT NOT SQUARED OFF THERE BECAUSE THAT AND THOSE TWO CANAL AREAS BELOW IT ARE ACTUALLY PART OF A SAME DEVELOPMENT?
>> CENSUS BLOCK, THERE YOU GO. THAT'S CENSUS [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE YARN PART IS IN DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY.
>> IT'S HOW THE 5TH DISTRICT THAT GETS TO THE NORTH [INAUDIBLE].
>> ALTHOUGH I GET THAT, I KNOW, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT CENSUS BLOCK I WAS LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL APARTMENT PROPERTY.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS LITTLE PIECE THAT COMES OFF OF HALF SOUTH THERE.
>> LET'S SEE THAT LITTLE SQUARE THERE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOUR FINE WITH THAT, JOHN, THE WAY THAT IS [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S THE BOUNDARY OF POINT 5 AND 6 ARE WE DONE?
>> ALL RIGHT, I THINK YOU ARE DONE ON 6.
>> WELL, LET'S MAKE SURE, MARIE. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD ON 6, 5? JOHN.
>> SO MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT ON 5 IS THE WHOLE DIM RECORD AREA.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TRY TO GO GET ALL THE WAY BACK TO 45TH STREET AT A MINIMUM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE BUT.
>> THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I LIKE PLAN A.
>> I TELL YOU HOW THIS HAPPENED, PLANNING HELPS.
>> I'LL TELL YOU HOW THIS HAPPENED.
IT WAS PARTLY MY FAULT BECAUSE IN A CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL WOMAN, LOUIS, I THOUGHT SHE WAS ASKING THAT PELICAN ISLAND BE PUT BACK IN THE ONE WHERE IT WAS BEFORE THE LAST REDISTRICTING.
TURNS OUT THAT THAT WAS NOT OUR CONCERN.
IF WE PUT PELICAN ISLAND AND WHAT THAT DID WAS CAUSE 2 TO SHRINK AND SHIFT BECAUSE 3 HAD TO EXPAND SOUTH OF BROAD WAY.
IF WE HAVE A PELICAN ISLAND BACK INTO D3.
>> WHICH MARIE HAS SOME ODD BALL.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YEAH. LEAVE IT ALONE [INAUDIBLE].
>> BUT THEN THAT SHIFTS TOO BACK TO THE EAST, WHICH I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE NOTES THAT DON AND I MADE.
IF WE SHIFT THE BOUNDARY OF TWO BACK TO 45TH STREET, THERE NORTH OF THE SEAWALL.
THAT RETAINS THE MOST OF THE REPORT IN D5.
>>YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUSED ME TO SAY WHEN WE STARTED TALKING IS THAT, LET'S NOT UPSET DISTRICTS ANYMORE THAN WE HAVE TO.
>>YEAH. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON THE MAP IF WE BRING DISTRICT 5 TO THE 45TH STREET AREA?
>> LOOK AT A, YOU'VE WERE JUST GIVEN.
>> IT TAKES MOST OF DENVER COURT.
>>YEAH, BUT IT DOES TAKE [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO U, RIGHT, JOHN?
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FROM S TO U, ALL THE WAY TO 45.>>THE MORE EAST [INAUDIBLE] GOES ON THAT MEANS THE MORE EAST I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO AND DEPLOY IT, RIGHT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] SOME OF THAT BUT AS WE GIVE THIS BACK TO DISTRICT 2, THAT SOLVES A LOT OF YOUR PROBLEM.
BECAUSE IN SHIFTING THIS SOUTH TO COMPENSATE PELICAN ISLAND, THAT ENFORCE YOU YOUR DISTRICT QUITE FAR WEST.
>> SO YOU'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW, WHICH ALREADY WITH THIS 45TH STREET?
>> ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU GO TO 45TH STREET, WHAT DO THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE NOW IN DISTRICT 2?
>> THIS IS THE PROPOSED CHANGE.
IT SHOULD BE THE TOTAL DEVIATION OF 2 CLOSER TO 10 PERCENT AT 9.53.
>> YOU HAVE NOW I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE D5 IS TOO SMALL OR BECAUSE D2 IS TOO SMALL TO BE SUITABLE.
>> FIVE NOW BECOMES TOO LARGE, IT'S 55 PERCENT HIGHER THAN THE OTHER ANY OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE NORTH AND UNDER POPULATED, TOO.
>> DO THIS FOR ME, LOOK [OVERLAPPING]
>> WONDERING ABOUT THIS LITTLE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I GUESS THAT AREA, NORTH OF THIS AS A CHANNEL VIEW, PRUITT 81ST STREET UP THE NORTH INTO THE MAP, THAT'S DISTRICT 1 AT THIS POINT, RIGHT?
>> ALL RIGHT. THEN THE SOLUTION I THINK HERE IS, THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT DON AND I TALKED ABOUT, IF YOU GO OUT HERE OUT STUART ROAD, THIS IS ON THE LEFT EDGE OF THE MAP WHICH YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT IN THERE. IF YOU GO DOWN FINE STUART ROAD, AND EXTEND DISTRICT 4 BETWEEN SAY, AVENUE Q AND STUART ROAD. I HAVE TO GO TO THE MAP [OVERLAPPING]
>> UP TO 65TH STREET. WHAT DOES THAT DO?
>> WELL, THAT'S JUST LIKE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLAN C.
>> YEAH, IT IS ACTUALLY. IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK IN PLAN C.
>> ONE THING ON FOUR, I WAS TRYING ALSO NOT TO BRING THE EXPANDING POPULATION INDEFINITELY DOWN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOES. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT GOING OUT TO 65TH STREET IS GOING TO IMPACT THAT THAT MUCH, IS IT?
>> POOL RIGHT NOW IS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I SEE THAT, BUT. [OVERLAPPING]. COULD YOU MOVE THAT LINE TO 65TH STREET AND LET'S SEE WHAT THAT DOES?
>> ARE YOU WANTING ME TO RUN BETWEEN Q AND STUART?
>> THAT WILL BE THE BEST IDEA.
>> ALL RIGHT. THAT ACTUALLY JUST INCREASED IT JUST A TINY BIT.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT IT BROUGHT FIVE DOWN [OVERLAPPING] IN THE FIVE DOWN INTO THE RANGE AGAIN.
>> YOU CAN PROBABLY ALSO AGREE THAT LOCKED [INAUDIBLE] PLOT.
>> WHAT IS THAT? YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE.
>>I HAVE REVERSED THE CHANGE TO FIVE BEFORE MOVING OVER TO THE NEGATIVE AREA SO I CAN REASSIGN THAT TO 45TH.
>> OH. YES. OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] YEAH.
>> IF YOU DO THAT WHAT DO WE HAVE?
>> NOW THE TOTAL DEVIATION IS 7.43 PERCENT, SO IT IS MORE IN RANGE AND FIVE IS AT A MORE ACCEPTABLE DEVIATION.
>> LOOKING AT IT. KEEP [INAUDIBLE] AT THE TOP LINE.
IT WILL SHOW THE PLAN DEVIATION AND [INAUDIBLE] ALSO FIGURED OUT BY LOOKING AT THE [INAUDIBLE] THE MODEL.
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>> OKAY, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, LET ME LET ME RECORD THIS.
WE'RE MOVING THE DISTRICT 5 LINE TO 45TH.
WHAT IS THAT? S AND U AND AVENUE U AND THEN WE'RE MOVING THE DISTRICT 4 LINE BETWEEN S AND Q [OVERLAPPING]
>> SO I'M GONG TO GO ACROSS [OVERLAPPING]
>> I KNOW YOU GOT TO GET TO THE WEST END THOUGH, WE'VE GOT TO GO ACROSS THE 51ST.
>> WHAT IS THAT LINE OF DEMARCATION HERE BETWEEN 4-5 BETWEEN [OVERLAPPING]
>> IS THAT GOING TO BE BAY SHORE DRIVE?
>> NO BAY SHORES IS [INAUDIBLE].
>> IS THAT A DISTRICT LINE, A PRECINCT LINE?
>> THE RED LINE IS JUST THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARY OF THE PRECINCT THERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOES 1 3,42 TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THOUGHT OF WHAT I READ THAT YOU WILL INCORPORATE BAY SHORE [OVERLAPPING]
>> ON PLAN C BUT I THINK THIS IS STARTING OUT WITH PLAN A WHICH STILL HAD BAY SHORE IN YOUR DISTRICT?
>> IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ME.
>> IT WOULDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO DIVIDE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS RIGHT THROUGH [OVERLAPPING].
>> JOHN DID THAT THE TWO CHANGES THAT DAVID HAD WRITTEN DOWN AND YOU ARE RIGHT. [FOREIGN]
>> OKAY. HE THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR DISTRICT?
>> WELL, IF I MAY, BECAUSE THAT LEAVES DISTRICT 2 A BIT SMALLER THAN A PRETTY SIMPLE SOLUTION TO THAT, BECAUSE DISTRICT 4, YOU'RE ABOUT 3 PERCENT OVER.
>> WELL I'M LOOKING AT THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW THOUGH, [OVERLAPPING], SO THAT'S STILL WITHIN RANGE.
THE NEXT LARGEST PROBLEM IS D2 IS STILL 4.35 PERCENT UNDER AND I THINK IF WE GO BACK TO THE [NOISE] CORNER OF 25TH AND O, THAT'S WHERE A MODIFICATION AND PLAN C HAD SOLVED THAT PROBLEM PRETTY EASILY.
>> RIGHT. YEAH, YOU LEAVE THAT.
BUT THEN THAT LOWER LINE, YOU SEE [INAUDIBLE] PARK.
IT'S THE WESTERN EDGE OF THAT, WRITE THAT.
[OVERLAPPING] IF YOU IF YOU TAKE THAT AREA FROM THERE GOING WEST TO WHATEVER IT WASN'T PLAN C, YOU EXTEND THAT SECTION OF D2 WEST ACROSS D1 [OVERLAPPING].
>> TO WHAT? TO WHERE WOULD'VE TERMINATED?
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD GO ALL THE WAY TO MEET DISTRICT FORWARD THERE.
BUT IF YOU START TAKING THOSE BLOCKS ONE AT A TIME, LET'S SEE WHAT THAT DOES.
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GET NORTH OF THAT LINE.
URSULA IS A NEIGHBORHOOD DIVIDING LINE, WE DON'T WANT TO GET WITH NORTH UP. [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT YOU'RE IN DISTRICT 1 NOW.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THAT AREA WITH [INAUDIBLE] PARK?
LEAVING THE STADIUM AND [OVERLAPPING]
>> I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING [INAUDIBLE] PARK.
>> WELL YOU SEE THE PROBLEM IS THAT D2 IS LIKE 4 PERCENT UNDER HERE, AND D1 IS A LITTLE BIT OVER.
ARE WE SEEING THE GOOD NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN THERE? BOB? IS THIS CURRENT?
>> BUT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT TAKING THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> SEE THAT BRINGS ONE AND TWO A LITTLE CLOSER IN.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THAT FAR NORTH, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO URSULA COULD GO FURTHER WEST BUT ONLY TO IN AND A HALF.
>>I DIDN'T GO TO YEMEN I'D GO TO ROSETTE 28TH.
>> THAT IS 31ST STREET THAT IS AT NOW.
TWENTY-EIGHTH IS THE FAR SIDE OF THE PARK, THAT BLOCK TO THE PARK [BACKGROUND].
>> MY QUESTION IS THAT IS NOT WHAT WE TOOK OUT OF DISTRICT 1?
>> THE COMMUNITY. WHEN WE WANTED TO TAKE OUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE WENT UP THE 26TH STREET.
>>YEAH, CHANGED THE [INAUDIBLE] OKAY.
WE JUST WENT BACK TO O AND WHEN LESS ON O AND THEN YOU CAN DROP DOWN SOMEWHERE AROUND.
ORIGINALLY THE BOUNDARIES WAS 45TH. SO THEN [OVERLAPPING].
>> OKAY. YEAH. IF YOU MOVE WEST ON THE MAP.
LET US LET US LOOK AT WHERE THAT MEETS 45TH STREET.
>>THE GREEN IS TWO THE YELLOW IS FOUR [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE KEPT, [INAUDIBLE] AND WE CAME DOWN ALL TO THE WEST AND I GUESS YOU CAN GO MAYBE TO WHAT?
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30. WHAT WOULD BE ANOTHER STREET THAT YOU CAN INCLUDE SOME FOR DISTRICT 2.>> YOU MEAN AS SUPPOSED TO [INAUDIBLE]
>> AS SUPPOSED TO [INAUDIBLE] PARK BECAUSE WE WERE KEEPING THAT AND THE DISTRICT.
>> OKAY. IF I MAY SUGGEST BOB, THAT THAT PART OF [INAUDIBLE] PARK, MOVE THAT BACK INTO ONE AND I'LL SHOW YOU ANOTHER SOLUTION FOR THAT.
>> NOW, WHAT ABOUT THAT BLOCK?
>> LEAVE THAT LIKE THAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT'S 26TH STREET RIGHT THERE.
NOW FOLLOW THAT. NOW, MOVE THE MAP TO THE LEFT.
>> IS THERE A PLACE OUT THERE WHERE YOU COULD PICK UP ENOUGH TO REDUCE DISTRICT 2 'S DEFICIT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SHARON?
>> DO SOMETHING OUT THERE. WHAT IS THAT?
>> CAN YOU GO DOWN TO BALL HIGH WHILE YOU PUBLISH IT TOO?
>> YES. [OVERLAPPING] LOOK AT DISTRICT 2, THE GREEN AREA.
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU SHOW THAT ENTIRE WESTERN BOUNDARY ON THE MAP?
>> WHAT ABOUT 39 STREET FIRSTLY?
>> IF YOU START MOVING THAT LINE RIGHT THERE WEST, IF YOU MOVED IT A BLOCK OR TWO WEST, WHAT HAPPENS?
>> I WOULD TAKE IT AT A FOUR WHICH [OVERLAPPING] IS THREE PERCENT OVER RIGHT NOW.
SQUARE THAT OFF IF YOU WOULD [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT'S STANDARD. THAT'S 39.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S FROM 37-39 FROM 39-40.
>> 41ST STREET. IF YOU ADD THAT, CAN WE SEE WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THE NUMBERS?
>> GOOD, THEN YOU GET ALL THE FLOODED STREETS.
>> SHARON'S GOT MOST OF THE FOOTAGE.
THAT PUTS TWO QUITE CLOSE AND ACTUALLY BRINGS FOUR A LITTLE BIT UNDER, BUT NOT BY MUCH. HOW DOES THAT LOOK?
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE IN FOUR.
I THOUGHT WE CLEARED UP THAT WESTERN BOUNDARY BEFORE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE WAY IT'S ADJUSTED NOW, I JUST WANT TO CHECK.
BILL, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH FOUR? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I LIKE IT JUST THE WAY IT WAS.
THAT'S MY OPINION. I LIKE C PLAN MYSELF.
>> BUT THE TROUBLE IS THAT DOESN'T [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE NEED TO BALANCE OUT THESE OTHER DISTRICTS.
>> ARE YOU COMFORTABLE? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> ARE YOU ALL RIGHT WITH THAT?
>> LET ME LOOK AT THE FINAL OUTCOME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT IS THE NETWORK ON THREE CUT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE CHECKED THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND PLAN.
>> YOUR THREE AND FOUR ARE A LITTLE BIT UNDER.
>> THAT ACTUALLY DIDN'T [OVERLAPPING] AND NO POINT HAS THE HISPANIC POPULATION BEFORE FALLEN BELOW 50 PERCENT.
>> NO, IT HASN'T. THAT'S GOOD.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WE ARE NOT GETTING KIDDED UP CURRENTLY HIGH BUT I'D LIKE TO ADD, I THINK IT IS BETTER TO KEEP THE AMERICAN POPULATION REASONABLY HIGH AND WARM AS THE HISPANIC, VERY HIGH.
>> WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS BILL, SINCE IT'S YOUR DISTRICT?
>> BEFORE WE MOVE OUT FORWARD, BILL SAID HE WANTS TO SEE THE FINAL PLANS BEFORE HE MAKES A DECISION WHICH SOUNDS REASONABLE.
WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WILLIAM TOO THAT GIVES YOU MORE INDIVIDUALS INTO TWO OR [INAUDIBLE] IS THAT MAKING [OVERLAPPING].
>> ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT ON THE WHOLE THING.
>> IT FOLLOWS PRETTY GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES.
A LOT CLEAR THAN WHAT THEY ARE PRESENTLY.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT WITH O AND THEN P, 19. I LIKE TO BALANCE.
MY CONCERN IS JUST THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY SPLITTING UP TOO MANY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS HERE.
I THINK THIS LOOK LIKE MAYBE ALL IN ONE WITH THIS PLAN AND THEN ALSO BOARD ON WILLIAMS I THINK MIGHT BE CLOSE [OVERLAPPING] CAN THEY STILL SPLIT?
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>> WILLIAM'S BOARDING IS [OVERLAPPING].
>> BILLY'S BOARD I'M SORRY. I JUST [OVERLAPPING] PICKED IT.
I THINK IT GET'S SOME CLOSER AS WELL.
>> THEN JUST MY OTHER JUST CONCERN IS THIS, JUST THE GEOGRAPHICAL FAR WEST DOWN TO 4 CROCKETT.
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT HOMES AND ISSUES IN THIS PART OF TOWN THAT ARE DISTINCTLY A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE RECORD AND [OVERLAPPING].
>> CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON [OVERLAPPING]
>> BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS HERE.
>> THE PROBLEM IS THE MORE YOU GIVE TO JOHN OUT OF THAT, THEN THE MORE EAST OR NORTH I HAVE TO GO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S HOW YOU RUN IT.
>> YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE TO GO THAT FAR BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF RESIDENTS WITHIN THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> BOB DO YOU SEE [OVERLAPPING].
HOW MANY RESIDENTS WERE [OVERLAPPING].
>> SAN LOUIS RESORT. IT'S JUST A [OVERLAPPING] FAR.
>> HOW MANY HOUSES ARE IN THERE IF YOU WERE TO MOVE THAT INTO THE DISTRICT [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S CONDOS THERE, SO EVERYBODY IN THE SAN LUIS OWN HALF OF IT.
>> THEN BEHIND IT IT'S ALL SCHOOL OF BUSINESS, RIGHT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] ISN'T THAT LIKE THE RESEARCH STUFF AND THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEY'RE GONE. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONE.
>> BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE SAINT LUI THAT LIVED THERE IN FULL TIME?
>> WOULD YOU HAVE TO MOVE? HOW MUCH OF THAT COULD YOU MOVE?
>> CAN YOU SEE IT COUNT? [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S ABOUT 200 PEOPLE. IT'S WHAT'S REPORTED.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE LIVING THERE BEFORE THE CENSUS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR DISTRICT 2 BECAUSE THAT'S WILLIAM'S DISTRICT LOGISTIC THOUGHT.
WHAT ALWAYS CONCERNED ME ON DISTRICT 2 WAS, YOU HAD THE HOUSES ON ONE SIDE IN DISTRICT 2, ITS FURTHER EAST ON THE SEAWALL THAT THOSE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAD AN IMPACT ON THOSE HOUSES WERE IN ANOTHER DISTRICT.
I ALWAYS FELT THAT THEY SHOULD BE IN THE SAME DISTRICT.
>> MOVE THIS EAST IF YOU COULD BOB?
>> BECAUSE REALLY YOU'RE JUST CUTTING UP THE 45TH STREET, RIGHT? YOU'RE JUST CUTTING THAT SECTION OUT OF 45TH DOWN TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> NOT NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT EAST.
>> DAVID, WHERE YOU TAKE OVER.
I THOUGHT THAT ALWAYS SHOULD BE DISTRICT 2 DOWN THIS EAST.
>> THAT AGAIN, THAT CENSUS BLOCK.
WE COULD TAKE ALL OF THAT ALL THE WAY BACK TO 6 STREET OUT.
YOU DID NOT TAKE A SINGLE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS OVER THERE THAT THEY ALWAYS ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THEM.
>> EXCEPT THAT, [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S ONLY SOUTH [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S ONLY SOUTH OF THE SEAWALL.
>> HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU NEED TO TELL HIM [OVERLAPPING].
>> DO YOU SEE WHERE THE PEER EXTENDS INTO [OVERLAPPING].
>>THIS IS C, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 6/3.
>> ITS A REALLY WALL [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT IS THERE A WAY TO TAKE [OVERLAPPING].
>> YES, ALWAYS POPULATION 0 BACK.
>> BUT THERE'S COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IN THERE.
IF YOU PUT IF THAT INTO DISTRICT 2, DOES IT CHANGE ANYTHING?
>> BUT YOU GOT THE MERIDIAN THERE, DON'T YOU? MERIDIAN AND [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO. MERIDIAN IS ALREADY IN TWO AND HALF SIDE.
THIS IS STRICTLY THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SEA WALL.
>> BUT I WOULD PUT THERE THAT PERSONALLY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, I LIKE THAT.
>> HOW FAR WEST [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> THAT AREA YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIVIDE THAT ABOUT 6/3.
>> 6/3 IS A GOOD [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THERE.
>> IF YOU ZOOM IN 6/3, IT IS ONE OF THOSE MAJOR STREETS.
SECOND OR SIX, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
GIVE YOU STUART BEACH, WITHOUT BEING YOUR PROBLEM.
>> TAKE IT DOWN THE SIXTH STREET AND MAKE THAT DISTRICT 2.
>> THAT NEEDS TO GO TO TWO BECAUSE YOU GOT IT AT THREE.
>> IS THERE ANY POPULATION IN THAT OBJECT BLOCK?
>> NOT IN THE LOWER HALF OF IT, BUT THERE'S A LOT IN THE UPPER HALF.
>> WOULD YOU JUST CUT IT RIGHT HERE?
>> THAT'S 240 PEOPLE ON BLOCK HERE.
>> BOB, CAN YOU EXTEND 6,3 DOWN? THAT'S A LINE TO THE GULF.
>> OR IS THERE NOT A CLEAR GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARY LIKE WE DECIDED ON?
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>> NOT IN THAT PART BUT IN THAT PART, BELIEVE ME, THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I KNOW. BUT I'M SEEING THE BOUNDARY LINE.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT DESERT THROUGH.
>> THAT WAY YOU'VE GOT THOSE COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT.
>> IT'S REALLY THE PRESSURE HERE FOR MY DOGS.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WHERE YOU GOT TO FLIP-FLOP [OVERLAPPING].
>> [INAUDIBLE] ALREADY ALL THOSE LITTLE BOYS THAT ARE NORTH OF THE SEA WALL.
>> WHOLE LIKE THE BEACH FRONT AREA AS FAR AS BEACHES USE TRASH SOMETHING LIKE THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU GOT FLIP-FLOPS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NEW ESTABLISHMENT.
>> I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD INCLUDE FLIP-FLOPS.
>> YOU CAN PICK UP PARADA BEACH AS A NEW DISTRICT? YOU'D PICK UP PARADA BEACH FLIP-FLOPS AND THEY'RE GETTING READY TO BUILD THE PEARL HANDS, GETTING READY TO BUILD SOME ON THE BEACH THERE. YOU'D PICK ALL THAT UP [OVERLAPPING].
>> DO YOU WHERE WE'RE ASKING BOB, CAN YOU DROP SIX STREET TO THE GULF?
>> [INAUDIBLE] AS DEMOGRAPHICS.
[OVERLAPPING] WHILE YOU'RE RUNNING THIS MEETING, ARE YOU DEMOGRAPHER OR SOMETHING? [LAUGHTER].
>> I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS.
>> I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO IT TOO BUT.
>> ARE WE CONFIDENT [INAUDIBLE].
>> SOUTH AND WEST OF 6/3, NOBODY LIVES THERE.
>> DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT BEING SOMETHING [OVERLAPPING] SEA WALL?
>> MARIA IS SUGGESTING THAT PERHAPS THERE'S DEVELOPMENT COMING SOUTH OF THE SEA WALL.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO CHECK.
>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH [OVERLAPPING] FIRM.
>> I FINALLY HAD A VIF SUPERVISOR [INAUDIBLE]
>> CAN I SUGGEST WE LEAVE THAT ALONE FOR THE TIME BEING? [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE IT REALLY WOULD CHANGE THINGS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I AGREE PARTLY BUT FOR AESTHETICS, IF WE [INAUDIBLE]
>> IF WE COULD DO THAT AND MAKE THAT PORTION OF IT, THEN IT GOES WEST UNDER DISTRICT 2.
>> IT'S NEVER MADE ANY SENSE TO ME TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHERE MY DISTRICT GOES.
>> I SAY THAT IT WRAPS AROUND DISTRICT 2 AND GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 27TH STREET ON THE SOUTHERN FACE OF THE SEAWALL.
>> DAVID, IF WE CAN MAKE WELL, I'M SPEAKING [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, NO, NO. I LIKE THIS IDEA.
IT'S JUST THE BOUNDARY LINE IS THE ISSUE.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO DRAW THE LINE? I MEAN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> OKAY. THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, CAN WE MOVE THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SEAWALL?
>> FROM 6TH STREET [LAUGHTER] HE IS A FUNNY GUY.
FROM 6TH [BACKGROUND] WEST INTO TWO?.
SO THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION. WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT.
>> NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, DISTRICT 3 IS STILL A LITTLE BIT UNDER WHAT'S OUR TOTAL VARIATION? [OVERLAPPING]
>> WAIT BEFORE WE GO TO THREE, IS TWO FINISHED?
>> YEAH, I THINK SO, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT THREE AND ONE AND TWO WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT EACH OTHER. SO I FEEL -
>> THE ONLY THING WHERE WE SORTED THIS CONVERSATION IN TWO WAS THAT ST. LOUIS AREA.
>> BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S STILL A GOOD AMOUNT OF POPULATION IN THAT BLOCK.
SO IT JUST MIGHT HAVE TO STAY THAT WAY [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. LETS HOPE.
>> IF YOU NOW LOOK AT THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN DISTRICT 3 IN DISTRICT 1, WHICH TAKES YOU BACK TO 25TH STREET.
THIS AREA WEST OF 25TH CONCERNS US? CAN WE-
>> CHAIR DOES THIS CONCERN YOU?
>> THAT'S WEST OF 25TH, ALL THE WAY TO 28TH.
THAT BLOCK RIGHT THERE. [BACKGROUND] [NOISE]
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>> WELL, THAT'S THE NORTH SIDE.
>> YES, IT IS AND THAT'S WHY IT'S CONCERNING BECAUSE IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE 28TH.
THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE TO BALANCE THE DISTRICT.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JUST SEEING IF WE PUT ALL OF THAT WEST OF 25TH BACK INTO DISTRICT 1, WHAT THAT DOES TO THE INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS OF THE TOTAL DEVIATION.
>> WELL, DISTRICT 1 RIGHT NOW.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS OUT, SO, PUT IT BACK AND SEE.
>> I WOULD PUT IT BACK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK HISTORICALLY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WAIT, DISTRICT 1 IS THE LARGEST DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.
>> WELL, LET'S SEE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> HAVE WE TAKEN PELICAN ISLAND OUT YET?
>> WE STARTED WITH THAT IN MIND.
>> WHAT'S YOUR CONCERN WITH PELICAN ISLAND?
>> I'M TRYING TO [OVERLAPPING] HELP BALANCE THE NUMBERS AND I WAS ASKING A QUESTION.
>> YOU HAVE SOME FIXATION ON PELICAN ISLAND.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.
IT'S NOT NEAR YOUR DISTRICT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S IN DISTRICT 1 [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT GOES UP TO 5% OVER.
>> SHE'S 5% OVER AND I'M 4% DOWN.
IS THAT THE TOTAL AREA? [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM MORE THAN [BACKGROUND] [OVERLAPPING] 1, GETS A LITTLE BIT AGAIN, INCREASES YOUR DEVIATION. GO OVER IT.
>> OKAY, YOU'RE STILL UNDER 10?
>> IT'S NOW 8.81% AND THAT IS BEING PULLED FROM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE AND THREE RIGHT NOW.
>> IT'S RECORDED UP THERE ON THE TOP LINE IN BLUE. [NOISE]
>> RIGHT. I SEE IT. YES, THANK YOU.
NOW MOVE YOUR MAP SOUTH A LITTLE BIT.
[OVERLAPPING] SHARON, A LITTLE BIT MORE RIGHT THERE.
THANK YOU. SHARON, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THERE?
>> OKAY. WE ARE AT 35TH, SO DOES TWO NEED MORE? IS THIS OUR CORRECT DEVIATION? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THREE NEEDS MORE, BUT I'M NOT CONCERNED AS LONG AS WE'RE UNDER THE 10%.
>> SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT TAKING SOME THAT'S BUDDED UP AGAINST THREE, THAT'S WHAT [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE LOOKING AT? ARE YOU OKAY?
>> I'M ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DOES, IT LEAVES MY DISTRICT UNCHANGED.
>> DAVID, JUST TO CLARIFY, IS PELICAN ISLAND IN THREE IN THIS MAP? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IN THIS MAP IT IS STILL IN THREE. ON THIS MAP, MY DISTRICT DOES NOT CHANGE.
>> THAT'S WHERE IT WAS LAST TIME, IN THREE?
>> ALL RIGHT, AND THIS IS OUR DEVIATION?
>> THAT'S RIGHT, BETWEEN THE TWO THOUGH. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M THINKING THIS, CAN WE GO UP A LITTLE BIT MORE SO I CAN SEE.
>> MOVE THE MAP A LITTLE TO THE SOUTH SO WE CAN SEE THE CORNER OF DISTRICT 1 DOWN THERE. THERE YOU GO.
THE SMALL DISTRICT, MY DISTRICT, IS NOW 3.89 UNDER SHARONS' 4.92 OVER.
>> COME BACK DOWN NORTH, TO THE NORTH.
>> MOVE A LITTLE TO THE NORTH.
>> AND THEN WE GO [OVERLAPPING]
>> LOOKS MORE THAN FOUR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S A THOUGHT. GO TO THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN ONE AND FOUR.
THAT'S IN THE LOWER LEFT-HAND CORNER OF THE MAP NOW.
IF YOU WERE TO MOVE, DO YOU SEE THE ODD, [BACKGROUND] YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT UP THERE?
>> WHAT STREET DO YOU HAVE YOUR FINGER ON?
>> SOUTH STREET DISTRICT 1 [OVERLAPPING].
>> DISTRICT 1 USED TO GO TO 57TH.
>> RIGHT WHERE THE RED LINE WAS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHERE THE RED LINE IS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEN 54TH IS PAST MCDONALD'S.
THIS IS NOW DISTRICT 4, CORRECT?.
>> WHAT IF WE BROUGHT THAT FROM BROADWAY.
>> YES, THERE, RIGHT THERE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE MAP IS THAT CORNER.
YOU SEE BROADWAY AND THAT YELLOW PART, EXTEND THAT MOVING EAST.
>> THREE BLOCKS, SEE WHAT DOES.
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>> WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE NUMBERS THEN? [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT REDUCES YOUR TOTAL TO 5.77 DEVIATIONS BUT I THINK YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE OR CLOSER. [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT STILL IS DISAGREEING AT 3.89 UNDER BUT THAT DOESN'T CONCERN ME BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT IS EXACTLY MY DISTRICT TODAY.
EVERYBODY ELSE IS WITHIN 1% AND THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE THAT WOULD BE FROM DISTRICT 3 TO TAKE SOME FROM DISTRICT 2 IN THE TRIANGLE OR SOMETHING UNLESS WILLIAM'S ANXIOUS TO GET RID OF PIECES OF THE TRIANGLE.
I DON'T SEE [LAUGHTER] THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT
>> HOW FAR OF THE TRIANGLE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? [LAUGHTER]
>> LIKE DOWN THOSE STORIES [INAUDIBLE] IN MY HOUSE?
>> [LAUGHTER] SEE IT ON THE 15TH AT 14 BLOCKS THAT IS A LOT OF POPULATION.
>> 'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT MY HOUSE [OVERLAPPING] L EQUATION, BUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> DAVID, COULD YOU HAVE BOB, ZOOM OUT I WANT TO SEE ALL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WANT TO SEE COUNCILWOMAN LOUIS' ALL OF DISTRICT 1. [BACKGROUND]
>> IF YOU DID THAT THEN YOU COULD [INAUDIBLE]
>> SHARON THERE'S DISTRICT1 NOW.
>> WHERE IS THAT ADDITION OF HOMES OR THAT'S TAKEN OUT OF DISTRICT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, IT'S STILL HERE.
>> WHAT IS THE POPULATION OF DISTRICT 5 RIGHT NOW? I CAN'T SEE, SHARON, THE DEVIATION ON 5.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE VERY CLOSE.
>> DO YOU CARE ABOUT [INAUDIBLE]? [BACKGROUND].
>> YOU'RE STILL LIVING AT THAT [INAUDIBLE].
>> [LAUGHTER] RIGHT. THERE'S A SIGN INCORPORATED.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MAP RIGHT NOW.
>> LOOK AT MOVING THE LINE FOR THE OUTLINE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK THEY GOT GOOD REPRESENTATION AT THE TABLE ALREADY.
[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] THEY WERE ALL ABSENT.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. TAKE IT OUT. [BACKGROUND]
>> SEE, THIS ONE HERE IS GOING OVER 54.
>> WE HAS THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] THAT AREA IN THE BACK; IS THAT IN FOUR, A BIG FIVE, OR SIX?
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK EVERYTHING ON OUTFITS IS ACTUALLY IN 5. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WAS THAT IN YOUR DISTRICT? [BACKGROUND]
>> [INAUDIBLE] CIRCLE BEING WHERE THE CUSTOMER IS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I CAN'T SEE IN THE STREETS.
[OVERLAPPING] I WAS THINKING, THAT THE ONE BEHIND IT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S PROBABLY EASIER RIGHT HERE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] IF YOU JUST PUT [INAUDIBLE].
>> I WAS THINKING IN TOTALLY DIFFERENT LINES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT WHERE THAT ALAMO STREET IS?
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK IT'S RIGHT HERE; ALAMO DRIVE. [BACKGROUND]
>> I CAN TELL YOU WHERE THAT IS.
>> ALAMO DRIVE IS SOUTH OF CITY OF LAWSON.
>> IT'S THE SAME ISSUE, I GUESS, THAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING.
YOU GET TWO SIDES OF THE STREETS.
[OVERLAPPING] IT'S SPLIT THE SAME. IT'S IN DISTRICT 4?
>>YEAH. ALAMO IS [BACKGROUND] ONE OF THE STREETS.
>> OKAY. SO WE ARE IN K AND L, RIGHT? [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, THIS IS L. [BACKGROUND]
>> ALAMO; WHAT IS THIS THING? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TYPING?
>> NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM TYPE. YOU'D JUST GET RID OF US.
>> IF I PUT [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] A GOOD THING FOR HIM TO KEEP TYPING. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> SO WHAT [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> I TAKE THAT BACK. [BACKGROUND].
>> [INAUDIBLE] MATTER DOES. IN THE URBAN COURT, [INAUDIBLE].
>> SOME OF ALAMO IS YOUR DISTRICT. [BACKGROUND].
>> THAT'S WHAT IT IS. [BACKGROUND].
>> IT IS. [BACKGROUND] I THINK WE HAVE TO SEE IF IT COULD BE DONE.
>> THE THING ABOUT PLANNING, ALL YOU DO IT PLAN.
[BACKGROUND] IT'S NO BIG DEAL [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF BLOCKS.
>> HAVE BOB TAKE THIS LINE HERE [OVERLAPPING] MOVED TWO MORE BLOCKS.
>> BOB, THAT LINE WE JUST MOVED AT 40TH STREET, MOVE IT TWO MORE BLOCKS TO THE EAST, TO 38TH STREET.
>> NOT 38TH. [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]
>> ALAMO DRIVE IS TO THE SOUTH OF L, N, AND K.
>> SO THAT ALAMO DRIVE IN THERE?
>> ALAMO DRIVE IS CURRENTLY IN D1?
>> YOU WANT IT IN OR DO NOT WANT IT IN?
>> TAKE IT OUT, AND LET'S SEE.
>> SHE WANTS IT OUT. OKAY. YOU HAVE TO GO PRETTY FAR WEST TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU CAN'T GO THAT FAR WEST.
>> I MEAN EAST. GET ALAMO. TRY THIS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK IT'S TO 47TH STREET.
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>> IF YOU TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY TO 47TH STREET-
>> WHAT DO WE GET THERE? WHAT DO WE GET IF YOU DO THAT? I DON'T WANT [INAUDIBLE] THE WORLD HERE.
>> THAT BRINGS IT BACK 8.5 PERCENT.
BUT, SHARON, IS THAT GOOD OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP SOME OF THAT AREA CLOSER TO BROADWAY, DOWN TO K OR SOMETHING?
>> YES. EXACTLY. [OVERLAPPING].
>> ALL RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] WE'LL UPDATE POINT 5 NOW.
>> THE AREA BETWEEN THE 50TH AND 47TH, BROADWAY TO K, THOSE SIX BLOCKS UP THERE, CAN YOU PUT THOSE? RIGHT. YOU'RE THERE. THOSE SIX BLOCKS, IF YOU PUT THOSE BACK INTO ONE, WHAT DO WE GET, NUMBER-WISE?
>> THAT'S GOING TO BALANCE IT OUT BETTER.
>> THAT'S PRETTY GOOD [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU ARE NOW AT A 7.45 PERCENT.
>> 7.45, [OVERLAPPING] AND BETWEEN ME AND BILL, ONE HIGH, ONE LOW.
>> CAN YOU PUT THAT A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN SEE ALL THE DISTRICTS?
>> CAN YOU MOVE THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN UP WHERE WE CAN SEE ALL THE NUMBERS?
>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] CAN YOU ZOOM OUT?
>> WE CAN'T SEE? YEAH, THAT'S [OVERLAPPING] MUCH BETTER.
>> WHAT IS THE POPULATION IN PELICAN ISLAND ANYWAY? FIVE PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHY DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OUT TOO? WHY DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OUT OF ONE?
>> BECAUSE ONE WAS WAY TOO BIG.
>> SOMETHING SPECIFIC ABOUT ALAMO.
STRATEGY UP 0; ISSUE ABOUT ALAMO ITSELF?
>> NO. THAT'S THE SAME NOTATIONS THAT I MADE.
YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES AND CONCERNS.
ALAMO [OVERLAPPING] IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
>> YOU DON'T WANT US TO FIND IT.
>> PROBABLY GARDENS. ONE THING THAT MIGHT PALM GARDEN'S BEING SHIFTED OVER TO ONE.
>> IT'S GOING TO GO IN TO 4TH.
PALM GARDEN IS FOUR. [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT IS FOUR RIGHT NOW AS IT IS.
>> THAT'S WHAT [OVERLAPPING] I'M SAYING.
>> NOW ONE IS UNDER, A LITTLE BIT.
[BACKGROUND] DID YOU PUT SOME OF THAT BACK IN ONE? THIS [LAUGHTER] IS JUST [INAUDIBLE] STUFF HERE.
PUT THAT BACK AT ONE, GIVE ME BACK CHANNEL VIEW.
>> LET'S NOT GO THERE. JUST SIX [OVERLAPPING].
>> OKAY. I'M THE STRONGEST VOTING [INAUDIBLE] NO MATTER HOW MANY NUMBERS I HAVE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> CONGRATULATIONS. LET'S LEAVE IT ALONE.
>> WOULD YOU ZOOM OUT SO WE [OVERLAPPING] CAN SEE.
>> WANT TO GET ELECTED; YOU DON'T WANT THAT? [LAUGHTER]
>> JUST SO WE CAN SEE FROM THE BOUNDARY OF SIX TO THE BOUNDARY OF THREE, SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEYOND THOSE.
JUST ZOOM OUT A LITTLE MORE. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S BETTER.
>> ON THE ONE MAP, AND I'M SURE IT'S JUST THE ARTIFACT, ON THE PRINTED MAP, BEHIND THE AIRPORT AREA, THE LAND WAS SHOWING [NOISE] THAT IT'S DISTRICT 5.
THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THERE, BUT THERE COULD BE IN THE FUTURE; YOU NEVER KNOW.
>> IT'S JUST WEIRD THAT IT'S IN DISTRICT 5. [OVERLAPPING].
>> PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER].
>> THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS AN ARTIFACT.
>> WELL, I THINK THE PINK LINE THAT GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OFFICE IS YOUR BOUNDARY.
I THINK THAT REMAINS A DISTRICT SO EVEN IF IT DOESN'T BRING.
>> LOOK LET ME ASK THIS, BOB THE WAY IT'S SET UP NOW, WOULD YOU SHOW THE PERCENTAGES, THE TOTAL POPULATION ON EVERYTHING, CAN YOU BRING THAT SCREEN UP SO CAN WE SEE ALL THE DISTRICTS? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE NEGATIVE SHOWS A DECREASE OR INCREASE IN POPULATION [OVERLAPPING].
>> JUST LESS THAN THE OTHER DISTRICTS.
>> JUST LESS THAN THE OTHER DISTRICTS, SO IF YOU'RE A POSITIVE NUMBER, YOU'RE MORE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WHICH WOULD JUST MAKE NO SENSE..
>> WE NEED TO GO BACK UP [OVERLAPPING].
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>> WHY DON'T WE JUST CHANGE [OVERLAPPING] THAT TO SIX.
>> SEVEN POINT FIVE DAVID, IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I MEAN BECAUSE BILL AND I HAVE THE BIG VARIATIONS HERE AND I DON'T THINK EITHER OF US ARE TERRIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
>> I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
>>I KNOW EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH ON. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOW BOB WILL COME BACK AND WHEN HE REDID THE SECOND [OVERLAPPING] HE DID THE DEMOGRAPHICS RECALCULATE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S ALL WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
>> BOB, ON TOP OF THE AIRPORT AND IT'S NOT REALLY BELLOWED OUT NOW, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
THAT'S SHOWING DISTRICT, WOULDN'T JUST BE CLEANER THAT WAS DISTRICT 6?
>> IF YOU FOLLOW THE AIRPORT RUNWAY STRAIGHT UP NORTH YOU SEE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] JUST RIGHT AT THE END OF THE AIRPORT.
[BACKGROUND] THAT APPEARS TO BE.
>> THOSE LITTLE AREAS ARE ALL DISTRICT 5 [OVERLAPPING] MAKE IT SIX, JUST MAKE THAT SIX.
PUT ON THAT OTHER SIDE AS WELL OKAY.
PERFECT. [BACKGROUND] OKAY THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I THINK PELICAN ISLAND GOT MOVED.
IT IS DISCONTINUOUS FROM DISTRICT 3, NO MATTER HOW YOU GET THERE, [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S NO THERE'S NO ROAD ACCESS TO PELICAN ISLAND THROUGH DISTRICT 3.
>>NO, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT PELICAN ISLAND HAS SO MUCH TO DO WITH THE PORT, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT 3 [OVERLAPPING] BUT A GREAT DEAL OF THE PORT IS NOW IN DISTRICT 1 ANYWAY.
EVERYTHING WESTERN CRUISE TERMINAL 2 IS ALREADY IN DISTRICT 1.
>> YEAH, BOB, [OVERLAPPING] WE'VE MADE ALL THE CHANGES [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE HAVE LISTED THERE?
>> OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR NEXT STEP BOB, NOW THAT YOU HAVE ALL THESE CHANGES?
>> OKAY IF YOU LIKED IT/WE'LL MAKE IT INTO A [INAUDIBLE] AND GET THAT INFORMATION TOO AND THEN YOU CAN CLOSE IT.
WE'LL HAVE A MEANINGFUL COMMENT AND I THINK [INAUDIBLE] YOU'LL KNOW WHAT?
>> I THINK THE IDEA WAS SET A HEARING ON IT AND [INAUDIBLE] I THINK WE WILL SCHEDULE TO BE VOTED ON THE NEXT DAY.
>>NO, THE NEXT DAY WOULD BE A WORKSHOP [OVERLAPPING] AND THEN VOTED ON A WEEK LATER.
>>I THINK IT WOULD BE PUBLIC HEARING DECEMBER 1, WORK SHOP ON DECEMBER 2, VOTE ON DECEMBER 9.
OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] NOW BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS TOPIC, LET'S START WITH ONE, SHARON, DID YOU HAVE ANY INPUT YOU WANT TO GIVE BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS AND HE PRINTS NEW MAPS.?
>> WELL, THOSE ARE SUGGESTIONS WE HAVE RIGHT.
WILLIAM AND I ARE GOING TO JUST TALK ABOUT ONE AND TWO BUDDING AND SEEING WHAT [OVERLAPPING] YEAH.
WE'LL JUST GOING TO HAVE IT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS SENT TO US AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, BOB, WHEN WILL YOU GET THIS NEW MAP AND ALL OF THIS TO US?
>> EMAIL THEM TO ME, I'LL FORWARD THEM TO COUNCIL AND CITY SECRETARY
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>> YEAH THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. COOL.
>> COUNCIL WOMAN LEWIS AND COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] WILL GET TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT THOSE BOUNDARIES.
DISTRICT 3 DAVID, YOU'RE FINE?
>> BILL, FOR THE TIME BEING, YOU'RE FINE SIR?.
>> ALL RIGHT. DISTRICT 5, JOHN? [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]
>> I WANT TO PLAY POKER AGAINST JOHN.
I WANT TO KEEP MY PEOPLE [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT AND MARIA YOU'RE FINE?
>> THANK YOU. DAVID APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU BOB VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE EVERYTHING DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE ADJOURN?
>> NO. I THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH GOOD MAPS AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY. THAT'S GREAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. WELL, TODAY WE [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE HAPPY NOW.
>> OKAY REMEMBER THE RULES ON WORKING POEMS. LET'S NOT HAVE A ROUND ROBIN AMONG MAJORITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TALK ABOUT LINES.
I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR PROBLEM ABOUT YOU AND HIM TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC LINE BUT WE CAN'T ROUND ROBIN IT, AND HAVE A D E FACTO MEETING THAT HASN'T BEEN POSTED.
WITH THAT SAID, BOB'S GOING TO GET ME THE EMAIL, BE THE MAPS AND WE'LL GET THEM ALL OUT TO YOU REALLY QUICK.
JANELLE YOU'RE GOING TO POST THEM ON A CITY'S WEBSITE, I GUESS OR SOMEBODY WILL.
WE'LL HAVE AN ACTION ITEM NEXT WEEK TO INCLUDE A PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 1ST AND WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB TODAY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] A PUBLIC HEARING YOU NEED TO DO IT AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
IT NEEDS TO BE A CENTRAL LOCATION, I THINK IT'S [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S GREAT FOR EVERYBODY THAT LIVES ON THIS SIDE OF THE ISLAND BUT WHAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND SPEAK FROM DISTRICT 6 OR DISTRICT 5?
>> I REALLY KEEP IT IN MIND [INAUDIBLE].
>> I MEAN WHY NOT DO IT AT THE CENTER OF THE ISLAND?
>> WE'RE MEETING AT JOHN'S HOUSE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL WE'LL LEAVE THAT FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT'S BEEN CLOSED.
>> YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON OUR NOVEMBER 18TH AGENDA.
IS THAT RIGHT, MR. MILLER OR DID YOU WANT TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> YES I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. YOU ALL INVITED US HERE. THIS IS [INAUDIBLE] SESSION.
NEXT TIME LOOK, MY TEXAS [INAUDIBLE] I WISH I WILL RESTRUCTURE THIS THING SO THAT WE'RE NOT CONSTANTLY SPEAKING OWN [INAUDIBLE] IF WE HAVE SOME INPUT NOT TOO LONG AGO, WE ALL GOT THAT TIME WE'D KNOWN PEOPLE AND ANYBODY ELSE CONSTANTLY.
BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SAY, AND SOME OF THE THINGS I DON'T SAY.
YEAH, DON'T DEGREE AND I WANT TO ABLE [INAUDIBLE].
YOU'LL SEE WE WANT TO SEE WHETHER ONE IS THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT THING IN MY LIFE AND FOR MY CHILDREN.
THIS WILL BE DISTRICT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, [INAUDIBLE].THE OTHER THING IS THAT DISTRICT 1 IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO MY FAMILY, IS IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE GENERATION FOR ME BECAUSE TEN YEARS IS A LONG TIME.
SO I WANT TO HAVE ONLY INPUT ON ALL THESE PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE] WANT TO HAVE ALL THE INPUT THAT WE CAN HAVE EVEN WITHOUT COURSE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL LADY IS [INAUDIBLE].
THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THAT INPUT IF WE CAN.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT GOOD IS CLOSE TO THE RIGHT IS WE CAN.
NOW I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] THAT YOU'LL DON'T LIKE AND I DON'T CARE AND I DON'T MAKE APOLOGISTS, BUT WHAT I'LL SAY IN A DAY IS NOT A GOOD DAY TO STORE.
YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US EVERYTHING YOU ALL THINK WE NEED BUT YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE DID.
THAT'S WHERE I'LL COME, [INAUDIBLE] I WANT MY INPUT.
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YOU WERE NOT HERE, BUT THE LAST [INAUDIBLE] IT WAS IN 2010. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROVED [INAUDIBLE] PUT TOGETHER [INAUDIBLE] I THINK I HAVE A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR [INAUDIBLE]>>THANKS FOR BEING HERE, MR. MILLER VERY GOOD, I THINK THEY HAD SEEN IT.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR ATTENDING WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.