>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE AND
[Landmark Commission on November 1, 2021.]
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CALL TO ORDER THE LANDMARK COMMISSION REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021, AND THE TIME IS FOUR O'CLOCK.NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ATTENDANCE.
>> COMMISSIONER ALBERT SET IS INDICATED HE'S PRESIDENT. COMMISSIONER CLICK.
>> COMMISSIONER KIRSTEN HAS INDICATED HE WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE.
>> COMMISSIONERS TETZEL THOMPSON.
>> THEN I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD, THE STAFF PRESENT IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TIM TETONS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER KATHERINE GORMAN, MYSELF, AND PATRICK COLLINS, PLANNING TECH PLANNER, DANIEL LUNSFORD AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DOWNAFAIR WEATHER.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY CONFLICT OF INTERESTS, AMONGST THE COMMISSIONERS SEEING NONE.
WE'LL MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THE MINUTES?
>> I HAVE ONE CHANGE IN THE MINUTES.
I BELIEVE WHEN WE DID THE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR, WE JUST HAD THE ONE NOMINATION.
I'M LEANING ON MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WE JUST HAD THE ONE NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR NOT TWO.
>> STAFF WILL REVIEW THE MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
>> OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE SEE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES.
OKAY. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
>> FIRST, STANDARD REMIND US ABOUT THE MEETING.
WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO WATCH THE MEETING IN GALLERY VIEW THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SEE ALL OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS AT THE SAME TIME AND IT'S HOW THE MEETING IS SHOWN TO THE PUBLIC.
WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR MICROPHONE ON MUTE UNLESS YOU'RE SPEAKING TO CUT DOWN ON BACKGROUND NOISE.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU PHYSICALLY RAISE YOUR HAND TO GET TO THE CHAIRS ATTENTION BEFORE MAKING A MOTION OR SPEAKING AND STAFF WILL BE TAKING THE VOTE BY ROLL CALL.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS REGARDING THE COMMISSIONERS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THAT JOANNE GRIFFIN HAS RESIGNED FROM THE COMMISSION AND SHE WILL BE RECOGNIZED AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE'LL HAVE TIME TO PREPARE PLAN FOR HER.
JANE SWANSON HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO A REGULAR MEMBER BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WE'VE HAD TWO NEW APPOINTMENTS.
THESE ARE BOTH ALTERNATE POSITIONS.
MILTON ALBERSDAD WHO IS JOINING US TODAY, AND TONER KERSTIN WHOSE LET US KNOW HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE HERE.
MR. ALBERSDAD LET JUST TO LET YOU KNOW YOU'LL BE A PARTICIPANT TODAY.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND MAKE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE, BUT SINCE WE HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT, YOU WILL NOT BE VOTING.
>> OKAY. GREAT. WELL, WELCOME JANE TO THE COMMISSION AND WELCOME OUR NEW ALTERNATE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
CATHERINE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA NON-AGENDA ITEMS?
THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE IN ATTENDANCE ON THE WEBINAR.
WE ASK IF THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS, IF THEY'D USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THEY ARE ALL BUSINESS AND ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
>> YEAH, THIS 21LC-0062, AS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR NEW SHUTTERS.
ACTUALLY THERE WERE FOUR PUBLIC NOTICES SENT IN ONE OF THOSE RETURN.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROPRIATENESS TO ADD WOODEN LOUVERED SHUTTERS TO THE VISIBLE FACADES OF THE HOUSE.
I PUT WISHES TO A NEW SHUTTERS ON SOMEONE WHO'S IN THE HOUSE AS PRESENTED HISTORIC PHOTO OF THE HOUSE SUPPORT REQUESTS PER ATTACHMENT THEY IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO REMOVE EXISTING SHARES FROM THE REAR PORES.
THESE ARE NOT BELIEVED TO BE ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE.
WE CAN NOTE THE ZONING AND LAND USE AND DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THEIR QUEST HAS PRESENTED GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND DESIGN STANDARDS.
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NOTE THE SHREDDER SHOULD APPEAR TO BE OPERABLE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE WINDOW OPENINGS THERE, POSTERS SHOW ATTACH VIA THE STAFF REPORT APPEAR TO MATCH THE GENERAL APPEARANCE OF THE SHUTTER SHOWN THAT HISTORIC PHOTO, WHICH WOULD LOUVER SHUTTERS APPROPRIATELY SCALED TO THE WINDOW OPENINGS.IN REGARDS TO THE EXISTING SHUTTERS ON THE REAR PORCH, THEY ARE NOT BELIEVED OPERATIONAL THE HOUSE.
THEY APPEAR TO BE PLACED THERE AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST TO SERVE MORE SUNSCREENS THAT ANYTHING.
WE DO A PHOTO THAT WE'LL GET TO IN A BIT.
THE OWNER WISHES TO RETAIN THOSE SHUTTERS FOR SOME FUTURE USE, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE RE-INSTALL ON THE HOUSE.
THEY'RE ONLY PROPOSING TO USE NEW SHUTTERS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTS WITH THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE, OF EXTERIOR MODIFICATION SHALL CONFORM TO DESIGN MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT AND EXHIBIT A, THE STAFF REPORT, I WILL FOLLOW MODIFICATIONS.
THE SHREDDER SHELL MATCH THE APPEARANCE SHOWN THE HISTORIC PHOTO ATTACHMENT A ARE THEY SHALL APPEAR TO BE OPERABLE EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT PER THE DESIGN STANDARDS, ARE THEY SHALL NOT BE NARROWER THAN THE ASSOCIATE WINDOW OR OPENING AND SHE'LL MATCH THE SIZE OF THE WINDOW AND HEIGHT THAN WIDTH, AGAIN, PER THE DESIGN STANDARDS PLUS STANDARD CONDITIONS 2, 3, 6.
THERE WE GO. HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
HERE ARE THE FOLLOWING SLIDES ARE SOME RENDERS FROM THE ARCHITECT SHOWING WHERE THESE DRAWINGS ARE SLIGHTLY OLD.
YOU CAN SEE THAT HE'S PROPOSING TO PUT THE SHARES ON SOME WINDOWS, BUT NOT ALL.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE ARE SOME MORE SHUTTERS TO BE ADDED.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS AN OLDER DRAWING SO THESE SHUTTERS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE NEW.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ONE MORE PHOTO OF THE SHUTTER LOCATIONS PROPOSED NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES OF THE NORTH TO THE WEST, TO THE EAST.
THE FINAL PHOTO IS THE EXISTING PORCH.
YOU CAN JUST SEE TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THAT PHOTO, WERE THE NON-ORIGINALISTS SHUTTERS ARE BEING USED OF A SUNSCREENS, THEY IN FILL BETWEEN THE COLUMNS.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
>> I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT ENTIRE BLOCK, 1,700 BLOCK OF CHURCH IS REALLY COMING BACK STRONGLY.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE THEN I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE OWNER MR. AND MRS. NELSON OR REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT, CATHERINE?
>> LOOKS LIKE THEY BOTH ARE, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THEM TO TALK.
YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED ON OUR END.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELVES AND THEN ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
I'M GOING TO START OFF AND IF THE OWNERS WANT TO ADD OR YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT ONCE I FINISH.
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, THIS IS A REALLY NICE LITTLE HOUSE, PRETTY SMALL HOUSE BUT IT ORIGINALLY HAD SHUTTERS ON THE FRONT, I THINK THERE WAS A SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION, THEY SHOWED THE HISTORIC PHOTOS, BUT THEY TYPICALLY HAD SHUTTERS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, SIDES OF THE HOUSE, BUT WERE REMOVED AT SOME POINT.
WE'RE JUST PROPOSING TO PUT THEM BACK IN KIND.
WE UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONS ABOUT THEM LOOKING OPERABLE.
THEY WILL BE OPERABLE ACTUALLY OTHER THAN NOT TILTING THE ACTUAL LEVERS THEMSELVES, THOSE WOULD BE FIXED.
BUT THE SHUTTERS WILL FIT THE OPENINGS AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO OPEN AND CLOSE FOR STORM PROTECTION MAINLY.
THE PICTURE THAT YOU SAW OF THE REAR PORCH WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THOSE SHUTTERS, ORIGINALLY, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RELOCATE THEM BUT THE SIZE OF THEM, AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR SAID THAT HE DIDN'T THINK THAT HE COULD DO THAT IN A WAY THAT THEY WOULD LOOK PROPER TO THE HISTORIC PHOTO.
WE'RE PLANNING TO PULL THEM FROM THE SIDE PORCH, I THINK THAT THEY WERE PROBABLY PUT IN FOR VISUAL SCREENING OR PROTECTION FOR THE SERVICES YOU SAID YOU SAW IN THE PHOTO, BOTH THE WATER HEATER AND SOME LAUNDRY EQUIPMENT.
THOSE ELEMENTS HAVE BEEN RELOCATED TO INSIDE THE HOUSE CURRENTLY.
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THOSE AREN'T THERE ANYMORE, THERE'S NO REAL REASON TO PROTECT THEM OR TO VISUALLY SCREEN THEM.THE SHUTTERS THAT ARE REMOVED WILL BE RETAINED ON SITE AND THEY'LL BE USED IN THE LANDSCAPE JUST AS ACCENTS AND THEN ALSO USED AS SCREENING FOR AN OUTDOOR SHOWER ENCLOSURE.
THEY WILL BE STILL THERE ON THE SIDE, BUT THEIR PURPOSE NO LONGER EXISTS ON THE PORCH ITSELF.
THAT'S OUR REQUEST IN A NUTSHELL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> DID THE OWNER WANT TO SPEAK?
>> WE'RE HERE AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.
I THINK BRAX'S COVERED WHAT WE INTEND TO DO.
OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE GOING TO PUT THE SHUTTERS BACK IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND ON THE WINDOWS FOR PROTECTION, AND WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THE SHUTTERS THAT ARE THERE AND REPURPOSE THEM.
>> THANK YOU. CATHERINE, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS CASE?
>> DOES THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRAX OR MR. AND MRS. NELSON ON THIS CASE?
>> NO QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, AND ASK FOR SOMEONE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON CASE 21 LC-062.
[NOISE] I HAVE A MOTION, STEPHANIE.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE 21 LC-062 WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'LL SECOND IT.
>> DISCUSSION? NONE? OKAY, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.
>> COMMISSIONER STETZEL-THOMPSON.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, THE MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU MR. AND MRS. NELSON FOR PICKING UP THIS HOUSE, YOU'RE DOING AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB WITH IT, CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CASE 21 LC-061, 811, 17TH STREET.
>> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING NEW SKIRTING AND CHANGE TO THE ROOF STRUCTURE.
SIX NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RETURNED.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR NEW SKIRTING MATERIAL AND TO MODIFY THE ROOF STRUCTURE ON THE SIDE EDITION.
FOR THE SKIRTING, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE EXISTING WOOD BOARD AND BATTEN SKIRTING WITH STUCCO BLOCK.
THE STUCCO SKIRTING IS PROPOSED TO HAVE VERTICAL SCORING ARCHED INSET ELEMENTS ON THE FRONT AND TWO OVERHEAD GARAGE DOORS ON THE ALLEY.
THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE WAS INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT A.
FOR THE ROOF MODIFICATION, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MODIFY THE ROOF STRUCTURE ON AN ADDITION LOCATED ON THE NORTH REAR OF THE HOUSE.
THE ADDITION CURRENTLY HAS A FLAT ROOF AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A HIPPED ROOF.
THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE IS DESCRIBED FOR YOU IN THE STAFF REPORT.
PLEASE NOTE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
STAFF FINDS THE REQUESTS FOR SKIRTING MODIFICATION DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE DESIGN STANDARDS INDICATE THAT THE CURRENT SKIRTING OF BOARD AND BATTEN IS APPROPRIATE FOR ENCLOSING AN ELEVATED FOUNDATION.
STUCCO IS NOTED AS AN APPROPRIATE MATERIAL FOR BUNGALOW-TYPE BUILDINGS, STAFF FINDS THE MOST APPROPRIATE SKIRTING MATERIAL FOR THIS NATIONAL FOCUS TO BE BOARD AND BATTEN.
PLEASE NOTE THAT SMOOTH CEMENT USES FIBERBOARD COMMONLY KNOWN AS HARDIE PLANK, IS AN APPROVED MATERIAL FOR BOARD AND BATTEN SKIRTING, AND THE USE OF CEMENTATION FIBERBOARD WILL ADDRESS THE APPLICANT STATED CONCERNS REGARDING DURABILITY.
THAT FINDS THAT THE REQUEST FOR ROOFING MODIFICATION DOES CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE SUBJECT ROOF IS LOCATED IN LOCATION C LESS VISIBLE SECONDARY WALL.
PRESERVATION IS STILL PREFERRED, BUT MORE FLEXIBILITY EXISTS FOR COMPATIBLE REPLACEMENT OR ALTERATION.
SANBORN INSURANCE MAP RESEARCH INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT B, INDICATES THAT THE CURRENT ROOF ADDITION WAS ADDED SOMETIME BEFORE 1947 AND IT'S NOT ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE.
THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION WILL HELP ALIGN THE ROOFING STRUCTURE WITH THE HIPPED ROOF FOUND ON THE MAIN HOUSE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
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SPECIFIC CONDITION ONE, THE MODIFICATION SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN MATERIALS AND PLACEMENT IN ATTACHMENT A OF THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS.A, THE INSTALLATION OF THE STUCCO AND BLOCK SKIRTING SHALL BE ADMITTED.
ITEMS 2 THROUGH 6 ARE STANDARD AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES.
HEY, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHOWING THE ADDITION [NOISE].
THIS IS THE PROPOSAL OF THE STUCCO BLOCK SKIRTING AND THE SKIRTING SHOWN ON THE ALLEY ELEVATION.
HERE'S INFORMATION ABOUT THE ROOFING.
HERE'S THE AREA WHERE THE ROOF WOULD BE MODIFIED AND AN ELEVATION SHOWING THE AFTER CONDITION.
THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THE EAST.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOT A LITTLE HUNG UP THERE, BUT THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
>> OKAY, GREAT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? DOGUE.
>> THIS IS A QUESTION THAT MAY COME UP AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
I WAS WONDERING IF THE PURPOSE FOR DOING THIS WAS TO TRY AND DRY IN THE DOWNSTAIRS AND MAKE IT A HABITABLE SPACE BY DRYING IT IN WATERPROOFING AND CONCRETE.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS AN OPTION IN SOME WAY OR OTHER AREAS.
BUT WOULD IT BE ALLOWABLE, TO THEN COVER THAT WITH BOARD AND BATON IF THAT WERE WHAT THE LOGIC WAS BEHIND PUTTING THE CONCRETE IN?
>> YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE PROPOSED PURPOSE.
IT'S NOT LISTED IN THEIR JUSTIFICATION AS TO ONE OF THE PURPOSES.
FOR FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS, YOU CAN'T DRIVE FLOOD PROOF RESIDENTIAL SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CONVERT THAT INTO LIVING SPACE IF IT'S NOT CURRENTLY LIVING SPACE.
>> BUT STAFF IS MOSTLY CONCERNED WITH WHAT THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE IS, SO IT WOULD BE CONCEIVABLE TO DO BLOCK AND THEN SURFACE IT WITH BOARD AND BATON.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT? MARIA COGGLE (PHON)?
>> LOOKS LIKE MARIA COGGLE IS SIGNED IN.
SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION [NOISE].
MISS COGGLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? MISS COGGLE IS UNMUTED ON OUR END, IT LOOKS LIKE SHE SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
IF YOU'RE HAVING TECHNICAL TROUBLES MISS COGGLE, YOU CAN ALSO TRY TYPING INTO THE CHAT FEATURE.
>> CAN SHE DO A THUMBS UP IF SHE CAN HEAR US? OR SOME ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT SHE CAN HEAR US? IS THAT HER?
>> COGGLE, WE'VE UNMUTED YOU ON OUR END AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE UNMUTED ON YOUR END, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
>> IS VOLUME DOWN OR SOMETHING PERHAPS?
>> THAT THE QUESTIONS I CAN HEAR.
COGGLE HAVE YOU TRIED SPEAKING TO THE COMMISSION?
>> [INAUDIBLE] SHE CAN WRITE I CAN HEAR.
MAYBE WE CAN SAY DOES SHE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? YES OR NO, AND SEE IF SHE TYPES AN ANSWER THAT WAY.
>> YES. MISS COGGLE, IF YOU CAN LET US KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION VERBALLY.
IF YOU COULD TYPE THAT INTO EITHER THE QUESTIONS OR INTO THE CHAT.
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WELL, SHE'S INDICATED YES.HAVE YOU BEEN TRYING TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION MISS COGGLE? YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU ON YOUR END [BACKGROUND].
LET'S SEE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL ON YOUR ZOOM.
IF YOU GO OVER TO JOIN AUDIO, THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU THE PHONE NUMBER AND THE INFORMATION FOR DIALING IN.
[NOISE] WELL, CHAIRPERSON WE PROBABLY SHOULD JUST TAKE A BRIEF RECESS WHILE WE SEE IF WE CAN CONNECT WITH THE APPLICANT.
>> ANYBODY HAVE A RECORDING OF THE JEOPARDY IN SOUND?
[BACKGROUND] [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S A FABULOUS WEATHER WE'VE BEEN HAVING.
>> JUST DIDN'T GET ANY BETTER.
>> WHEN INITIALLY YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR TRICKER TREATERS, I THINK WE GOT MAYBE A 150 OR SO.
>> IT WAS AMAZING AND THEY LOOKED SO CUTE.
THEY ARE KIDS AND LITTLE KIDS.
>> OH, MY GOSH. I'M COMING TO YOUR HOUSE. [INAUDIBLE]
>> [LAUGHTER] YEAH, I GOT IT. ONE DOWN.
>> DONNA, THAT'S GREAT. I LOVE TO HEAR THAT.
>> DONNA, THAT SPOTLIGHT STORY ON YOU WAS VERY INSPIRING.
>> YES IT WAS. THAT WAS WONDERFUL [OVERLAPPING].
>> YES, YOU DID. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] AMAZING.
>> NOW THAT WAS VERY VERY WONDERFUL, YOU WELL-DESERVED.
WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOW YOU'RE QUITE SOMETHING.
>> I HAVE TO THINK OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR NEXT YEAR.
LET'S SEE THERE'S MORE STUFF IN THE CHAT.
>> WE'RE PROVIDING HER WITH THE COLON INFORMATION, SO HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL WORK.
>> IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WOULD WE MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER TILL THE 15TH?
>> THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMISSION.
>> OR DO WE ASK HER IF SHE WANTS US TO JUST GO AHEAD AND PROCEED AS PLANNED WITHOUT HER?
>> I THINK SHE WANTS TO PROCEED.
SHE ALREADY INDICATED THAT SHE WANTED TO SPEAK.
>> BUT WITH TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, YOU DO OFFER THE ABILITY TO- I GUESS IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT SINCE THE CASE HAS ALREADY BEEN HALF-WAY HEARD OR RESCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION.
I'M ON THE PHONE BUT I'M MUTED BY YOU.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE UNMUTED ON OUR END.
>> FROM MY RECORD IN WANTING THE STUCCO WALL THEN NUMBER ONE, THAT IS MORE PERMANENT VERSUS THE ONE YOU'VE SEEN FOR THE PHOTOS.
IT'S ALL ROTTED OUT ON THE BOTTOM AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE INTERIOR OF THE GARAGE, ALL THE BOARDS ARE ROTTED.
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THAT'S ONE REASON I DO NOT WANT TO MAKE THAT A LIVING SPACE.I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A GARAGE WHERE YOU CAN ENTER FROM THE GARAGE STRAIGHT INTO BOTH UNITS.
THE HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED THAT WAY AND I WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
ALL THE LONG BATON THAT YOU SEE ON THE PHOTOS, I THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT HARSH AND I ALREADY HAVE TWO PICTURES OF THAT THAT ARE STUCK OUT.
THEN OBVIOUSLY ARE MUCH MORE PERMANENT THAN THE WOOD.
IN THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING, IT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE ADDED ARCH TRIM AND WE CAN ADD THEM GOING DOWN, WHICH WOULD KEEP IT IN THE SAME SPIRIT BUT IT WOULD THEN JUST SOFTEN IT UP, JUST BEING WITH THE BATONS IN YOUR FACE WHEN YOU WALK BY IT? WELL, I WOULD PREFER TO DO IT WITH THE CONCRETE, BUT IF YOU'RE AGREEABLE TO THE HARDY, TO DO IT THAT WAY, I CAN DO THE HARDY.
>> CATHERINE, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS CASE?
>> COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. COHOLT? STEPHANIE?
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE CURRENT FRONT ELEVATION OF A HOUSE.
THERE IS NO, WHAT I WOULD CALL A WALK-THROUGH DOOR FROM THE SIDEWALK INTO THE UNDER PART OF THE HOUSE AND WE SEE YOUR STAIRS THAT FEED DOWN INTO YOUR SIDE YARD.
I NOTICED IN YOUR PROPOSED FRONT ELEVATION AND THIS MAY JUST BE ME NOT QUITE INTERPRETING THE FRONT ELEVATION CORRECTLY.
HAVE YOU REMOVED STAIRS ALTOGETHER FROM THE FRONT PORCH?
>> NO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING, IF YOU SEE THE DASHES ON THE FRONT FOR THE TREE POST AND THE ONE VERTICAL AND THE ONE HORIZONTAL, THEY'RE GOING TO GUESS WHERE STAIRS WILL GO.
THEN THE DOOR THAT YOU SEE IS ACTUALLY THE BACK PART OF THE HOUSE.
THAT'S THE DOOR THAT GOES INTO THE GARAGE.
>> FROM YOUR BACKYARD SIDE YARD.
THAT'S STILL IN THE VERY FRONT BY THE SIDEWALK.
>> SORRY. SO YOU'RE PROPOSING TO TURN YOUR STAIRCASE FROM AN ANGLED ELEVATION TO A FRONT-FACING ELEVATION; IS THAT CORRECT?
>> NO. THE STAIRS CURRENTLY GO DOWN PROBABLY ABOUT 10 STEPS AND THEN THERE IS A PLATFORM AND THEN THEY GO DOWN, AND THAT TAKES THE ENTRANCE INTO THE COURTYARD.
THE DOOR WAS SO NARROW THAT IF YOU HAVE LARGER FURNITURE, YOU ACTUALLY CANNOT GET IT THROUGH.
WELL, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MOVE THE STAIRS AND TURN THEM QUICKER BY GOING DOWN MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE STEPS DOING A LANDING, AND THEN GOING INTO THE YARD SO THAT WE'D HAVE A LITTLE BIGGER OPENING TO THE GATE.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. COHOLT? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON CASE 21LC-061811 17TH STREET.
>> IF I COULD JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD, THE STAIR MODIFICATION WAS NOT SPECIFIED ON THE APPLICATION.
SO I WOULD SAY IT WAS NOT UNDER CONSIDERATION TODAY.
>> CORRECT. WE'RE JUST GOING ON THE SKIRTING AND THE ROOF.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKED TO CONSIDER.
>> THANKS, CATHERINE. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS CASE, SARAH?
>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE 21LC-061 WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF OMITTING THIS DECO AND BLOCK SKIRTING.
>> OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.
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>> COMMISSIONER STENCIL THOMPSON?
>> I'M GETTING GARBLED SOUND, ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?
>> ALL IN FAVOR. THE MOTION PASSES.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE IMPROVEMENTS ON YOUR PROPERTY.
LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE AGENDA ON THE NEXT MEETING OF NOVEMBER 15TH? NO? OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? JANE? SECOND? STEP SHARING.
>> BYE.
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