>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. [Call to Order] [00:00:02] IT'S 9:00 AM. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR OCTOBER, 28TH. EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, COUNCIL. GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE AND GOOD MORNING TO STAFF THAT IS PRESENT THIS MORNING. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY THAT IS LISTENING OR WATCHING THIS PROGRAM, THIS COUNCIL MEETING HELD IN THE COMMUNITY. GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND GOOD MORNING TO YOU. IT IS 9:00 AM AND I'M OFFICIALLY CALLING THE MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO ORDER. WE HAVE A QUORUM, BUT JANELL, COULD WE DO ROLL CALL, PLEASE? >> MAYOR BROWN? >> PRESENT. >> MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] COLLINS? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SCHUSTER? >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER QUIROGA? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI? >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ROB? >> HERE. >> VERY GOOD. WE HAVE ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AND SEATED. WE ARE GOING INTO DISCUSSION ITEMS, ITEM 3. I WANT TO CLARIFY SOME ITEMS ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR COUNCIL THIS MORNING. [NOISE] ITEM 3F, STATUS UPDATE OF PELICAN ISLAND BRIDGE WILL BE DEFERRED, SO WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING 3F. THERE ARE STILL SOME DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT AND WE'RE ALMOST FINISHED WITH THAT, BUT WANTED TO WAIT TILL WE FINISH THOSE TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL. ITEM 3H IN OUR WORKSHOP, WITH THE RECYCLING AD HOC COMMUNITY REPORT, THAT WILL BE DEFERRED. THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE BACK TO US I THINK NOVEMBER 18TH ON THAT. ALSO IN OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION, COUNCIL, ITEM 481 WILL NOT BE PART OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE HEARD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE'LL BE HEARING THOSE DETAILS IN OPEN SESSION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT. ALSO, COUNCIL, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS MORNING ON OUR WORKSHOP. ITEM 3B, 3C, AND 3D, THESE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY AND WE WILL HAVE A TIME SLOT FOR THOSE. WE'VE GOT ITEM 3B WITH THE REDISTRICTING AT 9:30 AM. WE HAVE 3C AT 10:15, AND WE HAVE 3D AT 10:30. THESE ARE GROUPS THAT HAVE SET THEIR SCHEDULES UP TO PRESENT TO US AT BELL'S PARTICULAR TIME. WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL START WITH ITEM 3A, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THAT UNTIL 9:30. IF WE'RE NOT FINISHED WITH 3A AT 9:30, WE'LL BREAK FROM THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC AND MOVE TO 3B, 3C, AND 3D, AND THEN COME BACK TO FINISH 3A IF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. [NOISE] VERY GOOD. JANELL, [3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (20 Minutes) (Part 1 of 2)] WOULD YOU READ 3A, PLEASE? >> 3A, CLARIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. >> VERY GOOD. WILLIAM [OVERLAPPING] >> I THINK I'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF ON WORKSHOP THAT I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING REDISTRICTING AND WHATNOT, BUT I THINK I'M GOOD FOR IT NOW. [NOISE] IF I SEE ANYTHING POP UP, I WILL ASK THE BOARD [INAUDIBLE] THANKS, [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU, DAVID. >> I'M THE SAME WAY, I'VE LOOKED IT OVER, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT. >> VERY GOOD. JOHN? >> 10B. >> 10B. [BACKGROUND] >> [NOISE] YES, SIR. DAVID, CAN YOU ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS? >> I GUESS MY QUESTIONS HERE IS, WE'RE ELIMINATING THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE SIGNED AT THE END OF CONSTRUCTION? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? >> WE FELT THAT IT WAS VERY INVASIVE FOR THE CITIZENS HERE IN GALVESTON, AND IT CALL FOR AN INSPECTION, SEEM LIKE AT ANY TIME. WE FELT LIKE IT WAS AN INVASIVE TYPE AND WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO REMOVE THAT. >> I THINK IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAID THAT IF WE DON'T REMOVE IT, WE COULD JEOPARDIZE LOSING OUR RATING OR DEGRADING OUR RATING, GOING FROM A 20 PERCENT REDUCTION TO A 15 PERCENT REDUCTION. IS THAT THE CASE? >> [NOISE] THAT'S NOT THE CASE. >> OKAY. MY NEXT QUESTION IS, [00:05:03] I RECENTLY GOT A QUOTE FOR FLOOD INSURANCE ON A NEW HOUSE IN AN AE ZONE, SOMEWHAT PREFERRED ZONES ON THE ISLAND. THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR THAT JUST FINISHED CONSTRUCTION, THEIR INSURANCE CAME BACK AT $500. WHEN WE STARTED THAT HOUSE THEIR INSURANCE CAME BACK AT $500 A YEAR FOR THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE. SAME BASIC HOUSE, LOT NEXT DOOR, SAME ZONE, $5,000. OUR FLOOD INSURANCE, FEMA JUST CHANGED SOME REGULATIONS, WENT INTO EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST. FLOOD INSURANCE DOESN'T REQUIRE ELEVATION CERTIFICATES NOW, THEY DON'T LOOK AT THE ZONE THAT IT'S IN. ARE YOU AWARE OF ALL THIS? >> I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT. IT'S NEWS TO ME. >> I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT THOSE NEW RATES WILL TAKE EFFECT YET. >> THEY'RE IN EFFECT. >> YEAH. >> WENT FROM $500 TO $5,000. NO ELEVATION CERTIFICATE IS REQUIRED ANYMORE. >> DISTANCE TO WATER, IS IT?. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THIS STUFF, OF COURSE THESE REGULATIONS ARE THOUSANDS OF PAGES. BUT I DO WANT TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A BIG FACTOR IN HOUSING HERE ON THE ISLAND IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION BUILT ON MODERN CODES, MODERN FLOOD ELEVATIONS. OUR RATING SYSTEM HERE, DOESN'T EVEN SEEM TO HELP US IN GETTING OUR FLOOD INSURANCE ANYMORE OR A DISCOUNT ON OUR FLOOD INSURANCE ANYMORE. >> PROBABLY INCLUDES THE DISCOUNT, BUT THAT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S RATED RIGHT TO ME, JOHN. >> YOU MAY HAVE FALLEN INTO THAT WINDOW BEFORE THE RATES CAME. THE RATES WERE COMING IN AND THEN THEY CHANGE AND PUT IT ON HOLD. >> WHEN DID THEY PUT IT ON HOLD? >> IT WAS LIKE 3-4 WEEKS AGO. I THINK THREE. >> BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO MY AGENT, AND HE TELLS ME I HAVE NO INFORMATION ON HERE TO EVEN GIVE YOU. THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT. I THINK THAT PROPERTY MIGHT BE WRONGLY RATED. >> I HOPE SO. BUT [OVERLAPPING] [NOISE] I TALKED TO THE AGENT SEVERAL TIMES, SEVERAL PEOPLE WITHIN HIS OFFICE, AND HE SAID WHEN THE PROGRAM ROLLED OUT ON OCTOBER 1ST, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO RATE THIS. THEY SAY THEY DO NOW, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I FIRST GOT THE EMAIL, I'M LIKE, THERE'S A ZERO THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF THIS. [LAUGHTER] I CALLED THEM BACK. I SAID, "HEY, YOU MIS-RATED THIS, WE GOT A PROBLEM HERE. CAN YOU SEND ME THE REVISED QUOTE?" HE WAS LIKE, "NO, THAT IS IT. THAT'S THE NEW RATING." >> I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET MAYBE [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE A GOOD PERSON TO GET IN HERE TO DO THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE NOT TYING IT TO ELEVATIONS, BUT I THINK ELEVATIONS STILL COME IN TO CLARIFYING DISCOUNTS, BUT I AM BY NO MEANS AN EXPERT IN THIS. BUT CERTAINLY BEFORE WE START MAKING CHANGES, BECAUSE THE LAST THINGS WE NEED IS PEOPLE BUILDING AT LOWER ELEVATIONS AND THE E ZONES, LIKE THAT WOULD JUST BE [INAUDIBLE] SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTH HAVING AN ADDITIONAL MEETING OR MAYBE HAVING A WORKSHOP BEFORE ANOTHER MEETING IN NOVEMBER, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED. I KNOW PEOPLE AT THE BEACH HAVE GOTTEN EVEN MORE EXORBITANT. BUT I DO KNOW CONGRESS DID SOME MEASURE THAT GAVE A 60 DAY OR SOMETHING. AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOMEBODY [OVERLAPPING] >> PROBABLY NEED TO GET SOMEONE HERE FROM NATIONAL FLOOD. > > YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. >> WE NEED SOMEONE. [OVERLAPPING] THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE, BUT I SPOKE TO SEVERAL PEOPLE; SURVEYORS THAT DO ELEVATION [INAUDIBLE] THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE WITH THIS, INSURANCE COMPANY, AND IT WAS SHOCKING THE INCREASE IN INSURANCE COST THAT THIS NEW POLICY HAS PLACED ON US. >> YEAH, EXACTLY. JOHN, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, WOULD YOU ENUMERATE HOW THAT TIES INTO 10B AND WHAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND FOR THAT? >> WELL, I'M FINE WITH 10B. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS A LITTLE INTRUSIVE ANYWAY. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHY THIS CAME. IF IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE NEW REGULATIONS. >> WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE RIGHTS AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THEM. >> THIS IS GREAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH 10B. [00:10:03] >> I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ON 10B [NOISE] I'M NOT A BUILDER, HE IS THE BUILDER, SO HE MAYBE UNDERSTANDS IT. TELL ME AGAIN WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE ELIMINATING? >> IT'S WHAT WE CALL A NON-CONVERSION AGREEMENT WHERE [INAUDIBLE] THE CITY, YOU'VE GOT A FEW POINTS. AT ANY TIME YOU CAN GO IN AND, OF COURSE, BY NOTIFICATION YOU WANT TO NOTIFY THAT YOU'LL COME AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT YOU CAN GO INSPECT THERE DOWNSTAIRS AT CLOSURE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT VIOLATING YOUR CITY FLOOD ORDINATES. YOU GET A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF POINTS BY HAVING THAT IN YOUR ORDINATES. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY INVASIVE TO THE CITIZENS AND PUBLIC OUT THERE. WE FELT WE SHOULD REMOVE IT. >> IT DOESN'T EVEN SEEM LIKE IT'S AN ILLEGAL THAT YOU CAN GO INSIDE. >> THERE'S SOME FOURTH AMENDMENT ISSUES THERE BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN. WE COULD SHOW UP VIRTUALLY AT 2:00 AM AND SAY WE'RE HERE TO INSPECT. >> THAT'S WHAT THAT GUY WAS DOING. [LAUGHTER] >> ARE WE [NOISE] LOSING ANY POINTS? >> WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A FEW, BUT I THINK WE'RE STILL GOOD. >> THERE STILL SHOULD BE A COMFORTABLE SIX. WE'RE DOING OUR CYCLE VISIT NEXT WEEK. >> OKAY. >> WITH THE ISO SPECIALIST. >> OKAY. >> NOVEMBER 3RD IS OUR DATE. THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO OVER IN THAT MEETING. >> THEY HAVE THIS RECONSTRUCTION. >> [OVERLAPPING] CAN WE GET SOMEONE IN HERE THOUGH BEFORE WE FINALIZE THAT [OVERLAPPING] TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE POINTS SINCE THERE IS SO MUCH CONFUSION? >> I THINK WE'RE MORE THAN COMFORTABLE WITH IT. >> WE'RE AT THE COMFORTABLE SIX RIGHT NOW. WE'RE PLANNING ON STAYING AT THAT POINT. MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN GO A LITTLE BETTER, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'D RATHER BE AT COMFORTABLE SIX THAN BARELY GET TO A [NOISE] FIVE AND LOSING THE FIVE, JUST IN CASE WE HAVE TO MAKE UP POINTS SOMEWHERE. >> CAN I REQUEST? BUT I KNOW THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A SPECIAL MEETING IN NOVEMBER [OVERLAPPING] >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT WE [NOISE] COULD POSSIBLY PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, MARIE, IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT, BY ALL MEANS, WE PUT IT ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH [NOISE] OR YOU MIGHT WANT TO VISIT WITH BRIAN A LITTLE MORE ON THAT AND SEE. >> LET'S TRY TO FIND A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT THAT WE'RE NOT ADVERTISING FOR. >> I HOPE YOU KNOW THE TWO COMPANIES IT'S LIKE BRIGHT AND SOMEBODY. >> [OVERLAPPING]. [INAUDIBLE] >> YEAH. THERE ARE TWO COMPANIES. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOMEONE COME IN THERE WAS SO MUCH CONFUSION OVER THIS RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY. >> YES. >> [INAUDIBLE] PAUL. IF I CAN THROW IN. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE ONCE FROM ALABAMA ABOUT WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THE INSURANCE RISE BECAUSE HE'S IN THEM. BUT I HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM IN ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT THIS WILL BE A GOOD GUY TO TALK TO IF YOU WANT TO, BECAUSE HE'S ON THE BOARD AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION OR ANYBODY ELSE WANTS THAT I CAN GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION. >> BRIAN [NOISE] AT YOUR CAMP YOU KNOW WHAT COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] >> [OVERLAPPING] RIGHT. WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY WHO COULD EXPLAIN THE FLOOD RULES. SOME OF THE LOCAL AGENTS ARE STILL CLUELESS ON IT, SO WE'D PROBABLY NEED SOMEBODY FROM HIGHER UP, MAYBE AT NATIONAL FLOOD. I DON'T KNOW IF I GET SOMEBODY QUICK AS NOVEMBER, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY NEW BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. >> THERE'S TWO COMPANIES THAT DEAL WITH LIKE IT'S WRIGHT AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET ONE UP [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] >> BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RATING- [OVERLAPPING] >> HELLO. >> I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] >> YES. THIS IS DEBBIE [INAUDIBLE]. SHE IS OUR CRS SPECIALIST CONSULTANT, AND I THINK SHE WANTS TO ENTER. >> I WANTED TO JUMP IN BECAUSE THERE'S A [INAUDIBLE] USERS GROUP TO THE COUNTY [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY AREA, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE GILBERT [INAUDIBLE] WHO IS THE THE FEMUR REGION SIX INSURANCE SPECIALIST COME DOWN AND HAVE A MEETING [NOISE] ON DECEMBER 7TH. HE WOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE BEST PERSON TO EXPLAIN THIS GRADING 2.0. >> SO CAN WE GET THE ONE THAT [OVERLAPPING]? >> I DON'T KNOW IF HE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO A PUBLIC MEETING IN GALVESTON OR IF YOU JUST WANTED TO HAVE HIM UP. >> [OVERLAPPING] DEBBIE, IF WE COULD GET HIM RECOVER, EVEN IF WE COULD ZOOM THE MAN ON THE 18TH OF NOVEMBER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. COULD YOU REACH OUT TO HIM AND SEE IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT FOR US? ABSOLUTELY, HE WOULD. >> OKAY. >> YES, I WILL. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> IF YOU GIVE ME THE DATE, THE TIME, AND I'LL ARRANGE IT. >> DAVID WILL GET WITH YOU RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING AND GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS. >> MAYOR, THIS IS SALLY [INAUDIBLE]. I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK AND MAKE A CLARIFICATION. [00:15:02] I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, ROB, WAS REFERRING TO WHAT CONGREE ACTED TO EXTEND THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM IN FULL BECOME THIRD. THAT WILL NEED TO BE REAUTHORIZED WHEN THAT COMES BACK AS PART OF THE GAP FILLING AND APPROPRIATION IF NECESSARY TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT RUNNING. WE'RE WORKING TO GET A YEAR EXTENSION IN FIP SO THAT WE CAN FIND SOME TIME TO RE-EXAMINE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF GRADING 2.0 WHICH DID GO INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER. >> THANK YOU, SALLY. I APPRECIATE THAT. BRIAN, IF YOU COULD SET THAT UP ON NOVEMBER 18TH [OVERLAPPING]. >> NO PROBLEM. >> I THINK DEBBIE IS GOING TO GET THAT DONE FOR US. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> THAT SOUNDS GREAT. SOUNDS GOOD. JOHN [INAUDIBLE]. >> THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> ALL ARIGHT. PHIL. >> I'M GOING TO PASS. >> SHERYL. >> I'M FINE. >> MARIE. >> I HAVE A FEW THINGS. [NOISE] I JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER EXPLANATION ON 11A TO BE ABLE TO [NOISE] SPEND MY HASH TAGS BEYOND [NOISE]. >> I CAN GO FIRST. THIS IS FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] PRESERVATION COMMISSION, THE ALLOCATION OF PROMOTIONAL FUNDS THROUGH THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE GET FROM THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. WE DID THIS LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID YEAR. THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES NOISE] PEOPLE TO SPEND THE FUND BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, AND FOR MANY ORGANIZATIONS, THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE. WE'VE SEEN THAT IT TURNS OUT THINGS DIDN'T PERK UP QUITE AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT THAT EVEN THE GRAND IS ONLY NOW, HERE IN OCTOBER GETTING BACK IN OPERATION, SO THEY'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST WITH ONE MORE YEAR WE COULD EXTEND THIS AND ALLOW THEM TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS IN CALENDAR 22. I DON'T ANTICIPATE DOING THIS FOREVER, THIS WAS JUST TO HELP THE ORGANIZATIONS RECOVER FROM COVID. >> THANK YOU. THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT. >> WHAT ITEM IS IT? >> I'M SORRY, 11K [BACKGROUND] I HAVE 11J BEFORE THAT SO LET ME DO 11J FIRST. >> SURE. >> 11 J HAS TO DO WITH THE UTILIZATION OF TEMPORARY STAFFING SERVICES THAT EXIST UNDER. THEN INCLUDED WITH THAT WAS SCHEDULE OF WHAT THE PERCENTAGE MARKUP IS ON THE BASE, AND LET'S JUST START WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION. THE MARKUP IS 65 PERCENT AND THEN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT DOWN THERE BEEN ON THE ONES THAT WERE THERE. THE MARKUPS WERE SUBSTANTIAL. CAN YOU EXTEND UPON THAT? >> IT'S PRETTY STANDARD AMONGST THESE STAFFING COMPANIES. I THINK KEN [OVERLAPPING] [NOISE]. >> [OVERLAPPING] KEN'S ONLINE. KEN. >> YES, THIS IS ACTUALLY A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, AND THESE ARE OF CONTRACTED RATES THAN OUR STANDARDS BUT WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR AND WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL OF THESE, AND NO MATTER WHAT THE POSITIONS ARE WE MAY NOT UTILIZE ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER. BUT WHEN WE DO HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A PROVISION FIELD [INAUDIBLE]. THESE ARE THEIR STANDARD RATES THAT ARE CONTRACTED BY DEFINED COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT. >> ESPECIALLY ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE ONE, 65 PERCENT SEEMS LIKE AN OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH PERCENT OF [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE TRY NOT TO USE THE CONTRACT, UNLESS WE HAVE TO [NOISE]. SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO. >> BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED, ESPECIALLY ADMINISTRATIVELY, TO HIRE SOMEONE VERSUS PAYING AS 65 PERCENT [OVERLAPPING]. >> I'LL GET HELP RIGHT NOW ADMINISTRATIVELY, THERE'S MAYBE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF WORK [OVERLAPPING] BUT THEY'RE NOT APPLYING FOR JOBS. >> [OVERLAPPING] ALL ACROSS BORDERS. [OVERLAPPING]. >> THIS ROBERT HALL INTERNATIONAL, THIS COMES THROUGH HDAC OR THIS COMES THROUGH [OVERLAPPING]. >> HDAC. >> IT JUST SEEMS A BIT OUTRAGEOUS TO ME [NOISE] AND BY THE WAY, [00:20:05] I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. HAVING 54 CONSENTED AGENDA ITEMS IS, IN MY OPINION, PRETTY UNACCEPTABLE, AND IT TOOK ME LIKE SEVEN HOURS OF READING TO GO THROUGH THESE. I THINK THAT'S HOW THINGS GET PUSHED THROUGH THE MAYBE YOU SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE. I'M GOING TO MAKE A REQUEST WHEN OUR SCHEDULE COMES UP. I KNOW SOME OF THESE ARE JUST RENEWAL BOND ANNUAL CONTRACTS, BUT OTHERS AREN'T. BUT WE'LL LOOK AT HAVING TWO MEETINGS IN OCTOBER TO AVOID HAVING 54 BECAUSE I JUST REALLY DO THINK THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS 11K AND IT HAS TO DO WITH WHERE THE PART BOARD IS PART OF OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I KNOW WHEN WE WERE WORKING THROUGH BUDGET, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW OUR HEALTH CARE COSTS HAVE GONE UP, SO HAVE OUR HEALTH CARE COSTS GONE UP BECAUSE WE ADDED THE PORT BOARD UNDER IT. [OVERLAPPING] ARE THEY COVERING. >> PORT BOARD ARE ALREADY PART OF THIS. [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY'RE A YOUNG GROUP. THEY HELP. >> YEAH, THEY HELP. OUR CONSIDERATION, PORT BOARD WAS WHETHER IT WOULD SAVE MONEY ON THE PORT BOARD SIDE, TO STEP OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT THE WAY I BELIEVE THE PORT [OVERLAPPING]. BUT THE CONCLUSION WAS IT WOULD HELP SOME GREAT DEAL. AS BRIAN SAYS, PORT BOARD STAFF'S YOUNGER THAN MOST OF US SO THEY'RE PRETTY HEALTHIER. >> BUT IT DOES FALL UNDER OUR BUDGET NUMBER. [OVERLAPPING]. >> THEY GET A SENSE JUST LIKE WITH LIKE CONTRIBUTOR. >> THEY CONTRIBUTE [OVERLAPPING] TO THE FULL AMOUNT AND [OVERLAPPING] WE DO PER-EMPLOYEE PRICING AND THEY PAY THAT. YEAH, THEY HAVE THE OPTION, WE SPLIT OURSELVES AMONGST OUR EMPLOYEES A CERTAIN WAY. THEY CAN SPLIT THOSE UP WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES HOWEVER THEY WANT. THEY CAN PAY MORE OR LESS ON BEHALF OF THE EMPLOYEE, BUT THE FIXED AMOUNT PER EMPLOYEE IS THE SAME. >> WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN WE COME TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO KEEP FROM RAISING TAXES. THE NEXT ITEM IS 11L, AND I GUESS THIS GOES TO BRANDON, AND IT'S CONSIDERED PRE-QUALIFYING LOCK WOOD OR LAND CLOCKWORK. ANDREW, AND YOUR MEN TO COMPLETE THE DETAILED SCOPE FOR THE CITY'S STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. DOES THIS FALL IN THE SAME AREA WHERE WE PUT OUT TO QUALIFY ENGINEERING GROUPS. THEY DID GO IN AND NOW WE'RE PRE-QUALIFYING THEM OR ARE WE NOT PRE-QUALIFYING PEOPLE ANYMORE? >>THAT'S A SEPARATE RFQ THAT'S GOING TO GO OUT THAT ROB IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON. THIS ONE WAS SPECIFIC JUST FOR THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. WE RECEIVED ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT PROPOSALS FROM FIRMS. WE RANKED THEM, ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE WERE ON THE COMMITTEE, THEY RANKED THEM. THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE CHOSE THAT WE BELIEVE WAS GOING TO BE THE MOST QUALIFIED, THE BEST FIT. >> HOW DO WE RANK THEM? >>BASED ON SIMILAR EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IS A MAIN QUALIFIER, AND THE RESUMES OF ALL THE VARIOUS ENGINEERS AND PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE WORKING ON THE PROJECT TEAM. [NOISE] >> DOES PRICING COMMEND TO PLAY OR? >>THEY WILL NOT EVEN DISCUSS PRICING YET UNTIL WE IDENTIFY A SCOPE. THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. THIS WILL IDENTIFY A PARTICULAR SCOPE OF WORK, AND THEN THEY'LL ATTACH A FIGURE THAT'S CUSTOMARY IN THE ENGINEERING PROFESSION. >> THEN WE WON'T BE BIDDING THIS OUT WHERE PRE-QUALIFY [NOISE] THEM, [OVERLAPPING] A BLACK SHIP. THEN WHEN WE COME UP WITH A PRICING SCHEDULE, IT WILL JUST BE THERE SO THAT THE PROJECT WON'T BE BID OUT. >> WELL, IT'S A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE. WE TYPICALLY DON'T BID OUT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. IT'S JUST LIKE A DOCTOR ONE WOULD GO SAY, DO YOU KNOW A REAL CHEAP SURGEON I CAN DO. [LAUGHTER]. >> I CAN GO GET A SECOND A SECOND OPINION [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT [LAUGHTER] >> IF THESE FOLKS WERE ALREADY PLANNING [OVERLAPPING] A MASTER PLAN THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT'S CORRECT THEY'RE NOT DOING THE DESIGN, THEY'RE DOING. >> AND THEY'RE A GREAT COMPANY DON'T GET ME WRONG. I WORK WITH THEM A LOT IN COASTAL STUFF, BUT IT JUST SEEM LIKE THIS WAS [00:25:04] GOING THE SAME WAY OFF THE STREET MASTER PLAN WHICH STILL HASN'T COME BACK TO US. BUT PRE-QUALIFYING ONE COMPANY AND DECIDING WHO WE'RE GOING WITH DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET THE BEST PRICING OUT THERE. AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE KEY ISSUE. 11M AND 11O, IT SEEMS LIKE THE 73RD STREET PROJECT JUST REALLY NEVER SEEMS TO GO AWAY. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS WHERE WE'RE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT. WE KNOW WE'VE HAD ISSUES THERE. [OVERLAPPING]. >> 11O WAS A DECREASE. >> 11O IS A DECREASE. >> ALMOST BY HALF [OVERLAPPING] >> 11N IS AN INCREASE. YOU KNOW AND [OVERLAPPING] >> IN THIS CHANGE ORDER WE'RE MAKING IT GO AWAY. IT SAYS IT'S THE FINALIZED PROJECT. HOPEFULLY. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I HAVE A COUNSEL WHO WOULD AGREE WITH ME, IS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO OUR OTHER PLAN WHERE WE LIKE AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD CONTRACT TO LOOK AT, WHERE WE STARTED OUT WHEN THE INITIAL BID WAS AWARDED AND WHERE IT ENDED UP AFTER ALL THE WORK CHANGES. WITH THIS ONE, SINCE WE KNOW THERE WERE ISSUES OF WHO DID THIS, WHO DID THAT, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, WHO'S NOT. IT SEEMS LIKE TO GET AN INCREASE, AND I'M REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO 11N, SEEMS LIKE AN INSULT TO INJURY AT THIS POINT. >> YOU PROBABLY, [OVERLAPPING] COULD YOU IDENTIFY WHO'S SPEAKING, PLEASE. [OVERLAPPING] THAT WAS A MISTAKE. >> 11N, THERE WERE A LOT OF CHANGES MADE, SOME BY THE CITY. FOR EXAMPLE, WE DECIDED TO DO A ONE-INCH LEVEL OF 73RD STREET AND THAT WAS THE CITY DECISION SO THAT ENDED IN A LOSS BUT AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT, [FOREIGN] >> CAN WE MUTE EVERYONE? WHERE IS JENNEL? HOLD ON [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] >> HOPE YOU CAN. GOOD. DOES EVERYONE KNOW, MAN, [FOREIGN]. >> AND WHO IS SENDING OUT THE COUNCIL LENGTH THAT SOMEONE JUST APPEARED THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON THAT. [OVERLAPPING]. >> PEOPLE CAN BE ON IT BUT WE GET A SPECIFIC LENGTH THAT PUT YOU TO THAT SHOULDN'T BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC. IT SAYS [OVERLAPPING]. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> WE'RE ALL SENT A LINK TO ZOOM. >> CAN ANYBODY JUST POP UP ON OUR VIDEO THERE. [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN IS IF THEY HAVE THE COUNCIL LENGTH. [OVERLAPPING] JUST A SECOND. JENNEL, COUNCILWOMAN ROB HAS A QUESTION HERE. >> YES. I KNOW YOU SEND US A SPECIFIC LINK THAT YOU SAY DO NOT SHARE. THIS IS FOR THE COUNCIL [OVERLAPPING] IT APPEARS BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENED TWICE NOW, THAT PEOPLE MAY BE SHARING ACCIDENTALLY THAT LINK THAT WAS SENT WHICH SHOULD NEVER BE SHARED WITH ANYONE BEYOND THE COUNCIL. >> EVERYONE GETS THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL LENGTH? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> LIKE YOU SHOULDN'T BE SHARING THE LINK WITH ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BUT THEY WANT TO ATTEND, THEY NEED TO GO ONTO THE WEBSITE AND REGISTER. THEN THEY'LL GET THEIR OWN INDIVIDUALS [OVERLAPPING]. >> OF WHICH IT MIGHT HELP, IF YOU SEND THAT OUT TO EACH COUNCILPERSON. THIS IS THE PUBLIC LINK BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE IS SHARING THE COUNCIL LINK WHICH SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. >> YET THEY FELT WOULD BE ON HERE. >> THEY CAN, BUT THEY HAVE TO REGISTER IN ADVANCE AND WE HAVE CONTROL OVER WHETHER THEY CAN BE SEEN ON VIDEO OR NOT. THEY CAN BE HEARD [OVERLAPPING] >> WHICH ISN'T THE CASE RIGHT NOW. >> DID YOU HOPE WE MUTED EVERYBODY? >> I MUTED. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] >> LET'S MAKE IT WORK. I WANT TO GET THE QUESTIONS. [BACKGROUND] >> I HAVE QUITE A FEW NUMBER OF ROWS AS WELL, BUT I DON'T KNOW. >> EXCUSE ME, MARIE TREENO. I THINK COUNCILWOMAN ROBBINS. >> THIS IS FOR COUNCIL. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND ADD IT TO OUR AUDIT PLAN TO SEE WHERE IT STARTED OUT AND WHERE IT ENDED UP. IN THE END, WHAT'S THE COST THAT WAS FED OUT AND WHAT WE ENDED UP PAYING, AND THEN I'LL HOLD THE REST OF MINE UNTIL AFTER THE NEXT PRESENTATION. [00:30:06] >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU TRINO. IT IS 9:30. WE HAVE NOT FINISHED ITEM THREE YET. WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THAT. IT IS 9:30 AM. COULD YOU READ, PLEASE JENNEL 3B? [3.B. Receive Initial Assessment Regarding Whether Redistricting Is Required Considering The New 2020 Census Data (D. Glywasky - 30 Min)] IF YOU COULD PLEASE? >> 3B. RECEIVE INITIAL ASSESSMENT REGARDING WHETHER REDISTRICTING IS REQUIRED CONSIDERING THE NEW 2020 CENSUS DATA AND I HAVE MR. LEAVE THEM ON THE TELEPHONE. HE'S HAVING TROUBLE LOGGING INTO THE ZOOM CALL. SO I'M WORKING ON IT WITH HIM RIGHT NOW. ALRIGHT. >> DON, BY THE WAY, COUNCIL, THIS IS ITEM 12A ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA, AND DON, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO HOOK INTO VICAR STAMP HERE. >> I JUST NEED TO KNOW THE RESOLUTION THAT ADOPTS THE CRITERIA THAT WILL BE USED. WHEN CONSIDERING REDISTRICTING PLANS. THEY'RE NOT HARD AND FAST MOVES, THEY'RE JUST ITEMS SET WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER. [NOISE] EXCUSE ME. BASICALLY, WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP NEIGHBORHOODS CONCENTRATED TOGETHER. WE DON'T WANT TO BREAK UP WHAT ARE CALLED COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST. BOB, I THINK IS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT THAT IS. [BACKGROUND] WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THE LETTER THAT MR. E SENT. WE HAVE AN EXCESS OF POPULATION, DISTRICTS ONE AND FIVE. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE OVER THE 10 PERCENT VARIATION, WE WILL HAVE TO REDISTRICT IT. NO CHANGES TO THE MAJOR PLANS WILL BE NECESSARY HOWEVER AND IT'S GREAT >> HE'S NOT RECEIVING THE ZOOM LINK. SO I'M GOING TO PUT HIM ON SPEAKERPHONE AND JUST PUT MY PHONE UP HERE IF THAT'S OKAY. >> THAT WOULD BE FINE. LET'S MAKE SURE WE CAN SAY THAT. >> ARE YOU THERE? [BACKGROUND] >> I HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THIS ONE. >> CHANELLE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY WE CAN HEAR IT, BUT THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR THIS. >> YES SENATOR [INAUDIBLE] THE SPEAKERS ARE THE ONES [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE NEED TO CHECK THAT, MAKE SURE IT'S COMING THROUGH CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC, PLEASE. >> IT IS. >> IT IS? >> YEAH. >> OKAY. DON, GO RIGHT AHEAD AND INTRODUCE HER. >> THIS IS BOB GATES FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] STAT FIRM. HE HAS BEEN RETAINED HIS FAMILY'S BEEN RETAINED TO DO OUR REDISTRICTING PLAN. THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH GALVESTON. NOT ONLY HAVE THEY DONE GALVESTON COUNTY, THEY'VE DONE THE CITY BEFORE, THEY'VE ALREADY SENT YOU THE REPORT. BOB WITH NO FURTHER ADO BECAUSE WE'RE ON A HALF-HOUR TIME FRAME HERE, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND ADVISE CITY COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD LIKE WITH ALL ON ZOOM, THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL ISSUE BEYOND ANY OF OUR [LAUGHTER] KNOWLEDGE THAT'S KEEPING US OFF. WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO IS TALK A LITTLE AND I HAVE A POWERPOINT, BUT WE'LL JUST DO WITHOUT THAT BECAUSE MOST OF THE STUFF THAT IS IN THERE AND CERTAINLY ALL OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS ARE IN THE PACKAGE THAT WE SENT. I THINK ALL THAT INFORMATION WILL BE THERE. THIS IS CALLED THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT WHERE WE LOOK AT [NOISE] THE REDISTRICTING PLAN FROM 2011 AND SEE HOW THE 2020 CENSUS AFFECTS IT. IN SOME CASES, THERE ARE SOME CITIES, COUNTIES THAT ARE IN BALANCE AFTER 10 YEARS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. BUT IN MOST CASES, GROWTH HAS OCCURRED UNEVENLY AND SO WHAT WAS IN BALANCE 10 YEARS AGO IS NO LONGER IN BALANCE, AND THAT'S THE CASE WITH GALVESTON. BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS AND WE'LL GET TO THE ACTUAL NUMBERS IN A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW OF REDISTRICTING. THERE ARE BASICALLY THREE PRINCIPLES THAT WE'D LOOKED AT PLUS ANOTHER DIAGNOSTIC TOOL WE'LL SEE. THE FIRST THING IS ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE. OUR DISTRICTS HAVE TO BE IN EQUAL BALANCE, OR WE'RE GOING TO BE IN CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION. [00:35:03] THE SECOND THING IS THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, AND ESPECIALLY SECTION 5, THAT SAYS WHEN WE DRAW DISTRICTS AND DO OTHER ELECTION DEVICES AND SUCH, WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE ON THE BASIS OF RACE OR LANGUAGE MODEL, OR STATUS. BASICALLY, THE LARGEST GROUPS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THAT ARE AFRICAN AMERICANS AND HISPANICS. NEXT, THERE IS A CONCEPT THAT CAME OUT OF THE SUPREME COURT BACK PROBABLY IN THE '90S, I THINK OR '80S. SHAW VERSUS RENO WHICH SAYS, WHILE YOU REDISTRICT AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO COMPLY WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, YOU CAN'T LOOK AT IT TOO MUCH. YOU CAN'T REDISTRICT JUST ON THE BASIS OF RACE. THAT PARTICULAR CASE AND AS IT TURNED OUT, I HAPPENED TO BE AT THE SUPREME COURT IN WASHINGTON THE DAY THAT IT WAS ARGUED AND GOT TO LISTEN TO THE ORAL ARGUMENT. BUT THE ISSUE THERE WAS A CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN NORTH CAROLINA AND IT FOLLOWED THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY OR 150 MILES OR SO, A LITTLE PIECE HERE, A LITTLE PIECE THERE, PICKING UP AFRICAN AMERICANS VOTERS. BUT IT WAS A HUGELY CONVOLUTED DISTRICT. THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT JUST WON'T [INAUDIBLE]. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE CAN USE RACE, BUT IT CAN'T BE THE PREDOMINANT CONSIDERATION TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER PRINCIPLES. FINALLY, THE PLUS ONE THAT I MENTIONED, THREE PRINCIPLES PLUS ONE OTHER THING THAT WE MAY USE AS A DIAGNOSTIC TOOL INVOLVES SECTION 5 OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. THE NEXT SECTION IS THE ONE THAT SAYS THAT ANYTHING YOU DO HAS TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR PRECLEARANCE. ANYTHING YOU NEED THAT IS AN ELECTRONIC PRACTICE, STANDARD, OR PROCEDURE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR PRECLEARANCE BEFORE IT CAN GO INTO EFFECT. THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE. THAT WAS DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN 2013, THE SHELBY COUNTY CASE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT IT'S STILL HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THE SECTION 5 STANDARD, WHICH WAS RETROGRESSION, MEANING IF YOU HAVE A MINORITY DISTRICT OR FIELD THAT YOU CAN'T GO BACKWARD. YOU CAN'T MAKE IT WORSE FOR PEOPLE PROTECTED BY THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT FOR BLACKS AND HISPANIC. [NOISE] WE DON'T WANT TO RETROGRESS, WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS BECAUSE IF WE DO, WE'RE LIABLE FOR IT. UNDER SECTION 2 SAID, WELL, MAYBE YOU INTENDED TO DO [NOISE] THAT. WHEN WE LOOK AT ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE, THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO LOOK AT. THE SAME DISTRICTS ARE IN BALANCE. THE STANDARD THAT WE USE FOR CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS, LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS, AND OTHERS, ESSENTIALLY, EVERYTHING BUT CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS IS WHETHER THERE IS A LESS THAN 10 PERCENT MAXIMUM DEVIATION. THE WAY YOU DETERMINE THAT IS YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BIGGEST DISTRICT THAT YOU HAVE AND IT'S GOING TO BE OVERPOPULATED. IT'S GOING TO BE LET'S SAY 10 PERCENT ABOVE THE IDEAL DISTRICT. OTHERS WILL BE OVER, UNDER, AND DESCRIBE THE SMALLEST DISTRICT AND SEE HOW FAR UNDER THE IDEAL IT IS AND LET'S SAY IT'S 20 PERCENT UNDER. YOU TAKE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE LARGEST AND THE SMALLEST PLUS 10 TO MINUS 20. THAT'S 30 PERCENTAGE POINTS, THAT'S 30 PERCENT TOTAL MAXIMUM DEVIATION. WELL ABOVE THE 10 PERCENT THAT IS THE RULE OF THUMB AS TO WHAT'S ALLOWABLE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING WE DO IS WITHIN THAT 10 PERCENT DEVIATION. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TOTAL POPULATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER SOMETHING IS IMBALANCED. WE MAKE [INAUDIBLE] SO THE VOTING AGE POPULATION. BECAUSE THAT GIVES US A BETTER IDEA OF WHETHER SOMETHING IS EFFECTIVE POLITICALLY FOR A MINORITY GROUP. [00:40:01] VOTING AGE POPULATION TELLS THAT A LITTLE BETTER THAN TOTAL BUT FOR POPULATION BALANCE, WE'RE GOING TO BE USING TOTAL POPULATION. SECTION 2 OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT SAYS WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE. BASICALLY, THE THINGS WE WANT TO AVOID DOING OR CRACKING OR PACKING. CRACKING OR FRACTURING IS DIVIDING MINORITY VOTERS IN ORDER TO FRAGMENT THEIR VOTING STRENGTHS. IF YOU HAVE A GEOGRAPHICALLY COMPACT AREA OF MINORITY VOTERS AND YOU SAY, "OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CUT THAT IN TWO. WELL, IF THEY'RE LEFT TOGETHER, MAYBE THEY CONTROL THE DISTRICT OR CERTAINLY HAVE GREAT INFLUENCE AT THE DISTRICT." BUT IF YOU CUT THEM IN TWO, THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH INFLUENCE BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO SMALL AND THAT'S CRACKING. PACKING IS THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. YOU TAKE ALL THE MINORITIES INTO ONE PUT TOGETHER AND IF IT IS WELL ABOVE THE AMOUNT NECESSARY TO HAVE VOTING STRENGTH, THEN IT GETS PACKED AND YOU MINIMIZE THEIR VOTING STRENGTH. BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. THE SHAW VERSUS RENO, AS I'VE SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET RACE BE THE PREDOMINANT FACTOR, ALTHOUGH OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IT AS LONG AS IT ISN'T A NARROWLY TAILORED WAY TO ACHIEVE GOVERNMENTAL INTERESTS AND COMPLYING WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT IS A GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT RACE IS NOT A PREDOMINANT INTEREST IS THAT WE ADOPT AND UTILIZED CRITERIA FOR REDISTRICTING AND WE SUGGESTED A RESOLUTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT TO SAY, "HERE ARE THE CRITERIA WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHEN WE REDISTRICT." YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE AND YOU MAY WANT TO CHANGE SOME OF THEM AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT WE PUT THAT OUT AS OUR GUIDES FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. THE ONES THAT WE HAVE SUGGESTED ARE NUMBER ONE, OUR DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO HAVE IDENTIFIABLE BOUNDARIES. WE'RE GOING TO USE STREETS AND RIVER, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A RIVER RUNNING THROUGH GALVESTON. LET'S SAY [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]. >> YESTERDAY WE DID. >> PLEASE [OVERLAPPING]. >> IS THERE A QUESTION? >> NO [OVERLAPPING] THERE IS NO. >> THE SECOND THING, MAINTAINING COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN NEIGHBORHOODS. IF WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT IN THE SAME DISTRICT OR COMMUNITY OF INTEREST IN THE SAME DISTRICT, IT WON'T ALWAYS BE POSSIBLE BUT THAT'S OUR GOAL. ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS TO USE WHOLE VOTING PRECINCTS IF POSSIBLE. IN GALVESTON, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE. LOOKING AT THE CURRENT MAP AND THE VOTING PRECINCTS, THEY DON'T FOLLOW THEM VERY WELL. BUT IT'S EASIER TO DO THAT SAY IN HARRIS COUNTY OR CITY OF HOUSTON OR DALLAS COUNTY OR SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE REDISTRICTING. BUT IT'S BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A VOTING PRECINCT WITH 4000 OR 5,000 PEOPLE IN IT, THAT'S JUST TOO BIG TO KEEP YOU FROM GOING INTO IMBALANCE ABOUT POPULATION. WE SUGGEST BASING THE PLAN ON EXISTING DISTRICTS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP THE SAME AS THE EXISTING DISTRICTS, BUT IF WE USE THAT AS A STARTING POINT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO, THAT'S HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN GOVERNED. WE'LL START WITH THE EXISTING PLAN [BACKGROUND] IN THE EXISTING DISTRICTS. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT DISTRICTS OF RELATIVELY EQUAL SIZE, WE ARE DOUBLING IN THAT 10 PERCENT MARGIN. MORE GALVESTON DISTRICTS THAT ARE COMPACTED CONTINUOUS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ONE DISTRICT THAT HAS ONE PIECE OVER AT THE EAST END OF THE ISLAND AND ANOTHER PIECE UNCONNECTED AT THE WEST END OF THE ISLAND. WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE COMPACT. THAT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE, BUT WE'LL WE TRY TO DO THAT. KEEPING INCUMBENTS IN THEIR DISTRICT. WE TYPICALLY TRY TO DO THAT. SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A CRITERIA AND SO THAT'S OKAY. BUT THAT BENEFITS OBVIOUSLY THE INCUMBENTS, BUT IT ALSO BENEFITS CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE CONSTITUENTS [00:45:04] HAVE A IDENTITY AND AN AFFINITY WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES. WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. ALSO IF WE START PAIRING INCUMBENTS WE OR THE COUNCIL IS DECIDING WHO GETS TO STAY ON THE COUNCIL [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] AND WHO DOESN'T AND IT'S THE COUNCIL'S DECISION NOT THE PEOPLE'S DECISION. WE'RE GOING TO NARROWLY TAILOR THE PLAN TO COMPLY WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. ON OUR TIMELINE FOR REDISTRICTING AND AS FOR MEETING US TODAY, I THINK MOST OF THE ONES WE'LL DO WILL BE ON ZOOM AND WE'LL GET THAT WORKED OUT, SO WHATEVER THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TODAY, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT RESOLVED. NOVEMBER 10TH WE HAVE SCHEDULED AND THIS IS THE SCHEDULE THAT WE WORKED OUT WITH THE CITY. FIRST WORKSHOP [NOISE] OF DRAWING SECTION AND AT THAT TIME WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY DO IS TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO SAY, LOOK, HERE'S A WAY THAT YOU CAN GET YOUR DISTRICTS IN BALANCE. WE WON'T EXPECT THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE PLAN BUT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD STARTING POINT TO WORK WITH AND THEN YOU CAN BE ALTERING THAT AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL SET IT UP SO THAT ONE OF OUR GIS PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE PLAN ON HIS OR HER COMPUTER'S SCREEN THAT WILL BE SHARED WITH YOU AND THE PUBLIC, AND YOU CAN SEE IT. LET'S MOVE THIS FROM 65TH STREET TO 62ND STREET AND SEE WHAT THAT DOES. YOU CAN SEE IT HAPPEN ON THE MAP, YOU CAN SEE HOW IT CHANGES THE POPULATION BALANCE, THE RACIAL BALANCE AND SO FORTH. [BACKGROUND] WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT IN TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT IS ACCEPTABLE. DECEMBER 1 WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY. THEY CAN LOOK AT THAT MAP THAT'S COME OUT OF THAT FIRST SESSION. THEY MAY HAVE SOME IDEAS WE'VE ASKED THAT WE ADOPT GUIDELINES TO GUIDE THE PUBLIC IN PRESENTING PLANS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU. WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY. A SECOND WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 2ND, WE CAN DRAW SOME MORE IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY OR OTHER IDEAS THAT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAVE COME UP WITH BUT BY THE END OF THAT TIME HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE ADOPTED A PLAN AND SCHEDULE FOR ADOPTION FOR DECEMBER 9TH. IF WE DO THAT THEN THAT WILL BE DONE BEFORE PEOPLE HAVE TO BEGIN DECIDING WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND WHO'S GOING TO RUN. NOW, ONE THING, AND IT'S IN THE PACKAGE THAT YOU WERE SENT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT IF YOU DO I WILL SUGGEST THAT YOU TURN, I DON'T HAVE THE PAGE NUMBER HERE BUT THERE IS A TABLE CALLED DEMOGRAPHICS REPORT SUMMARY 2020 CENSUS TOTAL POPULATION. >> BOB, BEFORE WE PROCEED, DON, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT. >> WE DON'T HAVE IT IN [OVERLAPPING] OUR PACKAGE. >> IS IT THE EMAIL [OVERLAPPING] WHAT IS THIS? >> [OVERLAPPING] CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IF WE COULD. BOB, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WE'RE GETTING THAT COPY [OVERLAPPING] RIGHT NOW. >> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU [OVERLAPPING] THE HIGHLIGHTS. >> [OVERLAPPING] YES. >> WHAT THIS DOES IS THAT IT SHOWS THE EXISTING DISTRICTS AND WHAT THE [NOISE] 2020 POPULATION IS FOR THOSE DISTRICTS. THE LARGEST DISTRICT [BACKGROUND] IS DISTRICT 5. THE IDEAL DISTRICT SIZE IS 8,940. THAT IS THE TOTAL POPULATION OF THE CITY DIVIDED BY 6. [00:50:12] TWO THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY-SEVEN CONSTANT IN IT AND THAT'S ABOUT 1900 PERSONS TO THINK OR ABOVE THE AZI. >> WHO IS BETTER THAT THE OTHER ONE? >> AS LONG AS IT GETS 21.66 PERCENT OVERPOPULATED, SO RIGHT AWAY WE KNOW GOING OUTSIDE THE 10 PERCENT. THE SMALLEST DISTRICT IS DISTRICT 2 AND IT HAS 7446 PEOPLE. IT IS ABOUT 1600 PEOPLE UNDERPOPULATED AND THAT'S A DEVIATION OF NEGATIVE 16.71 PERCENT. SO, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR LARGEST AND SMALLEST IS 38.38 PERCENT. WELL ABOVE THE 10 PERCENT SO THAT SHOULD BE MOVING SOME PEOPLE AROUND. THE OTHER DISTRICTS, DISTRICT 1 IS 7.17 PERCENT OVERPOPULATED, DISTRICT 3 IS 3.89 PERCENT UNDERPOPULATED, [NOISE] DISTRICT 4 IS 2.82 PERCENT, UNDERPOPULATED, AND DISTRICT 6 IS 5.95 PERCENT, UNDERPOPULATED. [NOISE] NOTE THAT I HAVE MAY SUGGESTED WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS IS THE DISTRICT 1 WHICH IS AT 7 PERCENT OVERPOPULATED, HAS TO LOSE THAT 700 PEOPLE. DISTRICT 2 HAS TO GAIN THAT 1500, 3, AND 4 COULD STAY THE SAME BUT THEY CAN GAIN UP TO 350 FOR DISTRICT 3 OR 250 FOR DISTRICT 4. FIVE NEEDS TO WIN THE 1900 PEOPLE. THE MAJOR CHANGES ON DISTRICT 5 AND 6 NEED TO GAIN 500. ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND LOSE THOSE PEOPLE AROUND. ALSO, IT IS DISTRICT 1 OF COURSE HAS ABOUT AND HERE I'M LOOKING AT THE VOTING-AGE POPULATION, HAS ABOUT 33 PERCENT NON-HISPANIC BLACK, VOTING-AGE POPULATION ABOUT 27 PERCENT HISPANIC. DISTRICT 4 HAS ABOUT 47 PERCENT HISPANIC VOTING-AGE POPULATION, ABOUT 12 PERCENT BLACK. THE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE OF COURSE 5 PERCENT BLACK ROUGHLY, BUT THE OTHERS ARE BETWEEN ROUGHLY 12 AND 16 PERCENT BLACK POPULATION AND ON HISPANIC POPULATION. DISTRICT 3 AND DISTRICT 6 ARE UNDER 20 PERCENT, 5, 1 AND 2 ARE IN THE 20S AND OF COURSE, 4 IS JUST UNDER 50 PERCENT. THE INFORMATION YOU WILL GET WILL SHOW MAPS OF THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY, THE ENTIRE CITY WITH THE DISTRICT'S DRAWN OUT. THE INDIVIDUAL IT SHOWS A MAP OF EACH INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT WITH THE VOTING PERCENT SUPER IMPOSED AND IT ALSO SHOWS THE LOCATION OF AFRICAN - AMERICAN AND HISPANIC POPULATION IN THE CITY. SO, I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT CHANGES ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE MADE. AS I SAID FOR OUR NEXT MEETING WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN THE PLAN, JUST TO SHOW HOW YOU CAN GET IT BALANCED. I DON'T EXPECT THAT WILL BE THE FINAL PLAN, IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE, BUT IT'S TO HELP IN THE STARTING POINT. [00:55:01] I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND REALIZE THAT 5 IS GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE UP POPULATIONS, IT'S GOING TO HAD TO GIVE UP SOME 6 THERE'S NOT TIME TO BORDER 6. IT'S ALSO 1 IS GOING TO EMPTY THIS, 2 IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET IN, 6 IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET IN. SO, THE OTHERS CAN GAIN SOME. SO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS WHERE WE ARE AND I'M HAPPY TO VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW. >> [OVERLAPPING] I THANK YOU. I KNOW WE'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO START THIS OFF. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS ITEM THE CRITERIA THAT BOB WENT OVER IS ITEM 12 COUNCIL ON OUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON. ON THOSE CRITERIA BOB, JUST A QUESTION ON NUMBER 2, IT CAUGHT MY INTEREST. COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST SHOULD BE MAINTAINED IN A SINGLE DISTRICT AND SO FORTH. WHAT IS A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> WELL, THERE'S NO REAL HARD AND FAST DEFINITION. CERTAINLY, I THINK NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT SAYS NEIGHBORHOODS ARE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AND I THINK IF I'M CORRECT. >> RIGHT. >> I THINK THERE'S OPEN A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST AND IT CAN BE LET'S SAY, YOU WANT TO AGREE OVER DISTRICT 3 WHERE THE MEDICAL BRANCH IS AT JOHN SINCLAIR. I DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT I SUSPECT THERE ARE A LOT OF MEDICAL PERSONNEL AND AFFILIATED ENTITIES THERE. IN THAT, IS THAT MIGHT BE A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME INTERESTS. DISTRICT 6 FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THERE WERE BUG HOUSES AND SO FORTH. AGAIN, I THINK IS A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST. THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. BUT YOU CAN DEFINE THEM. THAT QUANTITY ISN'T WHAT YOU THINK IT IS, BUT CERTAINLY, NEIGHBORHOODS, THINGS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SIMILAR INTEREST. >> OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS MAY QUALIFY. >> YEAH, SURE. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING. >> LET ME SAY ABOUT THE CRITERIA, I THINK WE LOOK AT THOSE, WE WANT TO TRY LINK THOSE AS BEST WE CAN BUT ULTIMATELY, SOME CRITERIA ARE GOING TO COMPETE WITH OTHERS. BECAUSE WE'LL DEFINITELY GOING TO NEED TO GET THINGS IN POPULATION BALANCE AND IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT SPLITTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DOING SOME OTHER THINGS. WE DO THE BEST WE CAN IN THOSE CRITERIA BUT SOME OF THEM ARE NOT GOING TO BE REALIZED AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CONFLICT WITH OTHERS. >> ALL RIGHT. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION COUNCILOR MOVE ON. >> WELL, I HOPE WE CAN ONLY KEEP THEM CONTIGUOUS. I KNOW PREVIOUSLY IF YOU LOOK BACK TO THE LAST CENSUS OR EVEN THE ONE BEFORE THAT WHEN SOME OF THE DISTRICTS WOULD LOOK LIKE AND TO ME THAT THEY WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE. I HOPE WE CAN AT LEAST KEEP THEM CONTIGUOUS. >> ANY FURTHER COUNCILOR [INAUDIBLE]? >> DO YOU HAVE ANY PRE-DRAWINGS SETUP YET, PRELIMINARY DRAWINGS? >> NOT YET, BUT I WAS GOING TO WORK ON THAT AND MAYBE EVEN THIS AFTERNOON. AGAIN, WE'LL OF COURSE SEND THAT TO YOU AND SHARE THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE IT UP ON THE COMPUTER SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT TOGETHER BEFORE AT OUR NEXT MEETING. AGAIN, THAT WOULD JUST BE PRELIMINARY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE ELECTION CERTIFICATE ON YOUR WALL, NOT ME. I DON'T MAKE THE DECISION. >> KAREN. >>I HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE A COMMON PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT YOU SAID, NEIGHBORHOODS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DISTRICT WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE IN THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. SO, THAT'S I THINK A NEIGHBORHOOD INTERESTS OR WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. SECONDLY, WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO A LOT OF THE STATE REDRAWING LINES AND LOOKING AT CITIES. MOST CITIES HAVE A TRAINING FOR [01:00:02] THAT MAPPED SOFTWARE THAT YOU'RE USING WHERE I AS A COUNCILPERSON OR ANY OTHER COUNCILPERSON CAN GET IN AND WE CAN LOOK AT DRAWING SOME MAPS AND WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY TRAINING ON THAT SOFTWARE BEFORE THIS NOVEMBER 10 MEETING? >> YOU MEAN BEFORE THE [OVERLAPPING]. >> [OVERLAPPING] NO, WE ARE NOT PLANNED ON TRAINING ON IT ON THE NOVEMBER 10 MEETING. WE WILL HAVE THE MAP UP AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL CAN [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] AND DIRECT THE PERSON WHO DO IT IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU SEE IT AS IT HAPPENS AND THEN THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT CITIZENS WILL WANT TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, I THINK THEY COULD MAKE THAT TO A COUNCILPERSON AND THE COUNCILPERSON, SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO WE WILL ALL BE ABLE TO MOVE IN THE MATERIAL [INAUDIBLE] AND SEE WHAT THE RESULT IS. >> ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT TRAINING OR HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US INDIVIDUALLY TO PLAY WITH THIS [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] >> YES. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE TRAINING AS WELL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THE SOFTWARE. DO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE TRAINING AND PLAY WITH THE SOFTWARE? >> I WILL COMMENT. I WAS NOT IN COUNCIL 2011 WHEN WE DID THIS BEFORE, BUT I WAS ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS. IT'S A MAP THAT GOES ON A WALL AND YOU TELL THIS GIS PERSON, LET'S MOVE THIS LINE HERE, THERE, BUT THERE WAS NO REAL TRAINING REQUIRED, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS ONE [OVERLAPPING] >> AM ASKING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TOO AND MIDDLETON SENT ME SOME INFORMATION ON CITIES THAT DO. THEY HAVE AN OUTLINE WHERE THE CITIZENS CAN PARTICIPATE, THEY TRAIN, AND SO THAT THEY HAVE KNOWLEDGE AS TO HOW TO USE THAT SOFTWARE TO CREATE THOSE MAPS. I'M JUST ASKING, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TRAINING, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT MEETING WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU PLAYING WITH THE MAPS OR DRAWING THE LINES? I GUESS THAT'S PART OF ME TEACHING. I WANT TO DO IT. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] I WANT TO DO IT MYSELF. [LAUGHTER] >> BOB IS A COUNCILWOMAN NOW. LEWIS IS ASKING; 'CAN WE PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS?' >> I WILL HAVE TO CHECK WITH OUR GIS PEOPLE. MY THOUGHT IS, IF [OVERLAPPING]. >> SORRY. BOB, GO AHEAD YOU'VE GOT CUT OFF [OVERLAPPING] >>TIMEOUT [OVERLAPPING]. >> DID YOUR PHONE GO TO ASLEEP? [OVERLAPPING]. >> PHONE RUN OUT OF BATTERY? [OVERLAPPING]. >> PROBABLY. [BACKGROUND] >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON TRAINING, [NOISE] TRAINING IS GREAT, [OVERLAPPING]. >> HE HANG UP, OR HE'LL CALL BACK. [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR HIM TO COME BACK? >> YES, SIR. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> MY QUESTION TO [INAUDIBLE] IS GREAT. I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE HAVE INPUT, THE BETTER IT IS, BUT I FEEL YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MAYBE 20, 30, 40, MAYBE A 100, 200 PEOPLE DURING COMBAT. WELL, I WANT TO CHANGE THIS WAY TO LOOK AT IT. I WANT TO CHANGE THAT WAY WHERE WE CAN HAVE JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT GET THOSE GESTURES AND THEN TAKE THE MEAN AVERAGE OF WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING. BECAUSE IF YOU OPEN IT UP TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE [OVERLAPPING]. >> IS IT NOT TRUE THAT BY LAW, WHETHER IT'S OURS OR STATE, THAT AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN'T SUBMIT A PLAN OR INCINERATION DIRECTORY. [BACKGROUND] >> THIS IS WHAT THAT DECEMBER 1ST MEETING WITH PUBLIC, COULD HAVE BE AVAILABLE TO- [OVERLAPPING]. >> HELLO. ARE WE BACK? >> YEAH. BOB, I THINK YOU ARE BACK WITH US. WE'RE STILL JUST- [OVERLAPPING]. >> I WAS SAYING, I AM NOT SURE IT'S A [INAUDIBLE] [BACKGROUND] TIME PERIOD COULD BE THAT FOR ONE THING, IF THE CITY IS SETTING IT UP AND HAVING IT FOR PEOPLE TO DO THAT, THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO BUY A LICENSE. [01:05:01] WE CAN TAKE SUGGESTIONS AND DO THINGS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS OR OTHERS AND WORK ON THAT TILL WE DO ALL OUR [INAUDIBLE] ANOTHER THING, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW IS [INAUDIBLE] CENSUS WAS DELAYED FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS. ALL OF THIS PROCESS IS TAKING PLACE IN TWO OR THREE MONTHS, WHICH NORMALLY WOULD CONSUME 8-9 MONTHS OR SO. BECAUSE THE CENSUS DIDN'T COME OUT ESSENTIALLY UNTIL SEPTEMBER, WHEN NORMALLY IT WOULD COME OUT IN MARCH. >> BOB, I KNOW WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETING ON DECEMBER 1ST, THAT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY ALSO FOR I WOULD ASSUME THE PUBLIC TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE LINES AND YOU COULD ACTIVATE THOSE ON YOUR MAP. >> YES. I WOULD SUGGEST JUST AS A WAY OF MAKING REMOTE WORK BETTER THAN MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE SUGGESTIONS, GIVE THEM TO A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL TO ASK US TO DO THAT, [NOISE] BUT WE CAN DO IT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO DO THAT. >> DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SARAH? >> YES. [LAUGHTER] BUT [OVERLAPPING] I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE, [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE THIS FIRM DOESN'T DO IT, BUT THERE ARE ONES THAT PROVIDES TRAINING FOR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY HAVE TO LOG ON AND THEY PRESENT IT. THEY GET THE LOG ON AND THEY CAN GO IN AND DRAW THE MAPS. NOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME SOFTWARE THAT'S OUT THERE TO DO IT. BUT I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD ASK YOU SINCE YOU ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OVER OUR REDISTRICTING, THEN I THOUGHT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE FOR THE COUNCIL IF WE WERE INTERESTED IN DOING IT. >> I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR, I DON'T KNOW [INAUDIBLE] SOME VERY LARGE CITY, BUT IT INVOLVES HAVING THE CITY BUY SEPARATE LICENSES, SET IT UP WITH HARDWARE AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. IT'S A PRETTY EXPENSIVE PROCESS. >> BUT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY, OF COURSE, FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE COUNSEL INPUT THAT WE CAN RELATE TO YOU AND AT THE PUBLIC MEETING ON DECEMBER 1ST, BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE SUGGESTIONS TOO. >> ABSOLUTELY, AND POTENTIALLY ON THAT SECOND MEETING, DECEMBER 2ND, ACTUALLY EVEN NOVEMBER 10TH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, DECEMBER 1ST AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND WORKSHOP ON DECEMBER 2ND. >> OKAY. VERY GOOD. >> ALL OF THOSE ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE IN THE PUBLIC. >> ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. >> THE NOVEMBER 10TH IS COUPLED ALSO TO WORKSHOP? >> IT'S NOT STRUCTURED IN THE EVENING AS PART OF A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT THAT POINT. >> OKAY. >> BUT IF THE PUBLIC HAS INPUT, THEY CAN SEND THAT TO ANY OF THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE CAN HAVE THEM START ADJUSTING THE MAP BASED ON THAT AT THAT POINT. YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY. SO IS THE ORDER THAT THEY DO THE MAP FIRST AND THEN THE PUBLIC WILL SAY; 'HEY, THIS IS WHAT I LIKE', IS THAT CORRECT ORDER? >> I THINK TO ME THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE BECAUSE AS BOB MENTIONED, HIS INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS IS GOING TO BE A VERY PRELIMINARY, AND AS HE SAID, THAT PROBABLY WON'T BE WHAT WE SETTLE ON, BUT AT LEAST THAT GIVES THE PUBLIC THE IDEA OF WHAT OUR BASELINE IS AND THEN WE CAN MAKE SUGGESTIONS AND CHANGES FROM THERE. YES, MA'AM. [OVERLAPPING] >> [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC ISN'T THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO MOVE LINES FROM STREET TO STREET, BUT THAT THEY EXPRESS AN INTEREST IN RETAINING CERTAIN COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AND NEIGHBORING ASSOCIATIONS THAT KIND OF THING. >> YEAH. >> THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE. >> CORRECT. >> I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A PRELIMINARY MAP, BUT IN OUR EXPERIENCE, IT HELPS TO DO SOMETHING, SAY LOOK, [01:10:02] THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN BALANCE OR GET YOU IN BALANCE AND THEN [NOISE] IT PROBABLY SAVES SOME STEPS TO START FROM THERE AND ADJUST THAT RATHER THAN STARTING WITH AN OUT OF BALANCE MAP. >> CORRECT. [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE. >> [OVERLAPPING] ANYWAY YOU WANT, BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT AND [NOISE] ALSO YOU MAKE THE DECISION AND DECIDE WHAT THOSE FINAL LINES WE NEED TO BE. >> THERE'S MORE TO JUST MOVING THE LINES FROM A POPULATION STANDPOINT AS YOU MENTIONED, [NOISE] SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE THOSE LINES AND SUGGEST WHERE WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE BOUNDARIES. GOOD. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? [OVERLAPPING] >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF PREDOMINANTLY MINORITY DISTRICTS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET INTO VOTING RIGHTS PROBLEM, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT VOTING RIGHTS AS PART OF THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO GET SUED. >> VERY GOOD. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? [BACKGROUND] BOB, THANK YOU, I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. WE'LL BE VISITING MORE I KNOW, AS WE GO ALONG AND [NOISE] WE'LL SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER 10. [NOISE] >> THANKS SO MUCH AND I REGRET THAT WHATEVER KEPT US FROM SEEING EACH OTHER, I EVEN PUT ON A TIE TODAY. [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] >> HANG ON TO THAT TIE. >> YOU PROBABLY GOING TO NEED IT. [LAUGHTER] >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. DON, DID YOU WANT TO WRAP THIS UP OR SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WE MOVE ON? >> NO, I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I THINK BOB SUGGEST DOING AN INITIAL BACK TO KICK OFF THE DISCUSSION IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. I GUESS IT'S CONFUSING HARD WORK BUT WE'LL GET IT DONE. THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT HE SPOKE ABOUT ON DECEMBER 1ST, MISS LEWIS, YOU HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN OUR CALENDAR RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADD-ON. WE NEED TO FIND A LOCATION TO DO IT. >> YES. >> YOU'LL BE WORKING ON FRIDAYS. >> OF COURSE IT'S A TERRIBLE >> [OVERLAPPING] AT NOON WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS CRITERIA FOR THIS PLAN, AND WHAT PRESUMED YOU TRANSMIT THOSE TO MR. HEATH. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]. >> WHAT? >> HE'S ALREADY REVIEWED THEM AND HAS BLESSED THEM. >> IF WE CHANGE. [OVERLAPPING] >> IF WE CHANGE THEM FINE, WE'LL GET THEM DONE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ADD ANYTHING. >> THE [NOISE] INITIAL MAP WILL REFLECT THIS, WHAT WE'RE SHARING. >> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS ON THE PLAN FOR NEXT TIME? >> YES, SIR. WE'RE AT 10:15 FOR [3.C. Discussion Of Joining The State Opioid Settlement (D. Glywasky - 15 Min)] THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO TALK ABOUT OUR OPIOID SETTLEMENT. DON, WOULD YOU READ THAT PLEASE JANELLE, FOR JUST THE [NOISE] PUBLIC? >> 3 C. DISCUSSION OF JOINING THE STATE OPIOID SETTLEMENT. >> DON, COULD YOU INTRODUCE THIS PLEASE. >> WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, THERE HAS BEEN A MULTI-STATE, MULTI-DISTRICT LITIGATION AGAINST BIG PHARMA COMPANIES OVER THE OPIOID CRISIS. A FEW YEARS BACK, SOME LAWYERS CAME TO US TO ASK IF WE WANTED TO JOIN AS PARTIES AND THE CITY DECLINED. WE'RE AN UNDERREPRESENTED GROUP, WE ACTUALLY FALL UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE STATE OF TEXAS' CLAIM, STATE OF TEXAS HAS, WITH THE ADDITION OF A BUNCH OF OTHER STATES, ENTERED INTO A TENTATIVE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH JOHNSON AND JOHNSON AND SOME OF THE OTHER DISTRIBUTORS. I'VE PUT IN A LETTER THAT YOU ALL HAVE, THAT GIVES US AN INITIAL PAYOUT THAT IS CONTINGENT ON ALL COUNTIES IN ALL CITIES JOINING IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, BUT THE PROPONENTS OF THIS IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. WE HAVE THEM ON THE LINE, YOU ARE ON THE SCREEN, WE SEE YOU, AND WE'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOU'RE MUTED OUT, WELCOME ABOARD. >> THANK YOU ALL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE EVERHART. I'M AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE TEXAS AG'S OFFICE WITH THE CONSUMER PROTECTION DIVISION. I HAVE A PRESENTATION IF YOU-ALL WANT TO HEAR ME TO GO THROUGH THAT, [01:15:02] BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS WELL. PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHICH WAY YOU'D LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH IT. >> STEPHANIE, OF COURSE WE CAN CHANGE THIS, WE HAVE 15 MINUTES ALLOTTED TO YOUR PRESENTATION, IS IT A LONG PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE? >> [NOISE] I CAN DO IT IN A PRETTY SHORT SUMMARIZED VERSION THAT WAY THAT YOU'LL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> THAT'D BE GREAT, THANK YOU. >> GIVE ME A SECOND. I'LL WALK THROUGH THIS BUT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT ME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF AND NOT TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THIS. JUST BRIEFLY, THE OVERDOSES LAST YEAR GREW BY NEARLY 30 PERCENT AND OVER THREE PERCENT IN THE UNITED STATES, WHICH REALLY UNDERSCORES THE NEED FOR FUNDS TO BE MADE AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH THIS PROBLEM, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THESE SETTLEMENTS ARE ABOUT. AS DON MENTIONED, LAST SUMMER, THERE WAS ANNOUNCEMENT THAT OPIOID SETTLEMENTS HAD BEEN REACHED AGAINST THE THREE MAJOR DISTRIBUTORS: MCKESSON CARDINAL HEALTH, AMERISOURCEBERGEN AND JOHNSON & JOHNSON. THESE SETTLEMENTS HAVE A COMBINED VALUE OF $26 BILLION. OBVIOUSLY AS WE'RE HERE, TEXAS HAS JOINED THE SETTLEMENT, BUT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT THAT TEXAS RECEIVES DEPENDS UPON THE PARTICIPATION OF THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES WITHIN THE STATE IN ORDER FOR TEXAS AND CITIES AND COUNTIES TO RECEIVE THE ALMOST $1.5 BILLION UNDER BOTH BILL. THE FINAL PERIOD FOR THIS ENDS JANUARY 2ND OF 2022. WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THEY ARE CONSIDERING TAKING THEM UP. BRIEFLY, BOTH SETTLEMENTS CONCLUDE INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AS WELL TO ADDRESS THE CONDUCT THAT IS AT THE HEART OF THESE CASES. FIRST, JOHNSON & JOHNSON WILL BE ENJOINED FROM MANUFACTURING, SELLING, AND PROMOTING OPIOIDS FOR 10 YEARS, SO THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THE BUSINESS ENTIRELY. THE DISTRIBUTORS ARE BEING REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH A CENTRALIZED CLEARING HOUSE THAT WILL BE JOINTLY OVERSEEN BY THE STATE AND THE COMPANIES THAT WILL MONITOR FOR OPIOID SHIPMENTS TO PHARMACIES, BECAUSE WE IDENTIFIED A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH PHARMACIES BEING ABLE TO PLACE ORDERS WITH SEPARATE DISTRIBUTOR COMPANIES, AND THEN THE DISTRIBUTORS CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT THAT INFORMATION AND THAT ALLOWED PHARMACIES TO GAME THE SYSTEM. WE THINK IN BOTH THESE FIELDS, THERE'S REALLY STRONG INJUNCTIVE RELIEF THAT WILL ADDRESS THE CONDUCT THAT CAUSED THIS CRISIS TO BEGIN WITH. THE WAY THAT THE MONEY IN THESE FIELDS WORK IS THAT, THE DISTRIBUTORS ARE PAYING UP TO $1.17 BILLION OVER 18 YEARS. THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY SAYS, JOHNSON & JOHNSON IS PAYING OUT OVER NINE YEARS. THAT'S NO LONGER GOING TO BE THE CASE. ACTUALLY, JOHNSON & JOHNSON WILL BE PAYING THEIR PORTION TO THE STATE AND THEN PARTICIPATING WITH CITIZEN COUNTIES IN A LUMP SUM PAYMENT THAT SHOULD BE COMING IN DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR. I EXPECT THAT WHEN THAT ACTUALLY GETS PAID OUT, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE IN ABOUT MARCH OR APRIL OF NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING NEW. BUT REALLY WE'VE WAITING THE FIELDS THAT HAVE BEEN SET OUT TO INSTEAD OF SIGN ON AND THEN DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF THAT FROM THE COMPANY'S PERSPECTIVE, THE ONGOING LITIGATION THAT THEY'RE FACING. THE COMPANIES WANT US TO SIGN ON AND THE REASON THAT THE WAY THE STATE AND COUNTIES ARE INVOLVED, AND WHAT I'M SAYING, IT'S NOW JUST MORE RELEVANT THAN A DISTRIBUTOR. AS THE STATE AND COUNTIES SIGN ON, THERE'S A TERMS OF PAYMENT THAT KICK IN AND INCREASE WITH INCREASED SIGN ON. THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, THE DISTRIBUTOR DEAL THEY HAVE A POTENTIAL OF AN OFFSET, AND THE SUSPENSION OF PAYMENT SHOULD THERE BE A FUTURE LITIGATION BY A CITY OR COUNTY WHO HASN'T CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN LITIGATION. BUT FOR REALLY OUR CONVECTIVE AND THE WAY IT IS SET UP, IS CITIES AND COUNTIES WHO HAVE EITHER FILES LAWSUITS OR HAVE NOT FILED LAWSUITS ARE ENTITLED TO FUNDS, AND THE WAY YOU ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN FUNDS IS BY GRANTING A RELIEF FOR PAST OR FUTURE CLAIMS FROM ALL CLAIMS RELATED TO OPIOIDS FOR THESE COMPANIES. [01:20:03] WE ARE TALKING WITH EVERYONE, WE ARE TALKING WITH LITIGATING SUBDIVISIONS AND NON-LITIGATING SUBDIVISIONS, AND THE WAY THAT WE ACHIEVE THE MAXIMUM FUNDS FOR EVERYBODY IS BY GETTING SIGN ONS FROM LARGER CITIES AND COUNTIES, THE POPULATION OF 10,000 OR MORE THAN PROBABLY GETTING ONE. THE WAY THAT THE DOLLARS FLOW INTO THIS STATE, AND SOMETHING YOU'D BE ENTITLED TO IS SET OUT BY A DOCUMENT CALLED THE TEXAS TERM SHEET, WHICH HAVE BEEN INTEREST-BASED ALLOCATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN TEXAS, THE STATE, AS WELL AS INITIALLY WITH SOME OTHER LARGER COUNTY IF YOU ARE ENGAGED IN LITIGATION. BUT AS WE GO AROUND THE STATE AND OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES, I CAN'T TELL YOU, I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 100, 40 AT THIS POINT WHO'VE ADOPTED THAT SETS OF THE BUCKET STRUCTURE FOR SETTLEMENT FUNDS FOR OPIOIDS. FIFTEEN PERCENT GO TO THE STATE, 15 PERCENT GO TO CITIES AND COUNTIES, AND 70 PERCENT GOES TO A LARGER FUND CALLED THE OPIOID ABATEMENT TRUST FUND THAT'S GOING TO OPERATE LIKE A GRANT PROGRAM. A PRECIPITATING CITIES SUCH AS GALVESTON WOULD GET ACCESS TO A DIRECT PAYMENT UNDER THE SETTLEMENT, AS WELL AS ACCESS TO THAT LARGER PART OF MONEY THAT'S GOING TO OPERATE LIKE A GRANT PROGRAM AND OPIOID OVERSEEN BY TEXAS OPIOID COUNCIL. IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, SB 1827, 87R. TEXAS OPIOID COUNCIL IT SETS UP THE TEXAS OPIOID PAYMENT FUND AND THE FUND ATTACHED TO THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND ALSO SET TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT FUNDS RECEIVED UNDER THE SETTLEMENT UNDER THE DIRECT PAYMENTS NEED TO BE SPENT ON SOMETHING WITHIN OPIOID TEXAS. THIS IS SOMETHING WITH A PAST OR FUTURE PURPOSE RELATED TO OPIOIDS, AND ON OUR WEBSITE WE HAVE A LIFT OF USES THAT NON-EXHAUSTIVE, BUT IT INCLUDES TREATMENT, EDUCATION, AND EMS DEALING WITH [INAUDIBLE] TRAINING. BUT AS I SAID, IT'S A NON-EXHAUSTIVE LIST. THE SECTION 1827 SETS UP AND ACTUALLY IT TAKES 15 PERCENT OF THE TOP OF OPIOID FUNDS COMING INTO STATE, GO TO HOSPITAL DISTRICTS AS WELL, AND THEN IT TAKES THE STATE 15 PERCENT AND FIX IT IN THE OPIOID ABATEMENT TRUST FUND. RIGHT NOW, THE COUNCIL IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING SET UP, BUT OTHER THE ENVISIONED OPERATE LIKE A GRANT PROGRAM WITH MONEY AVAILABLE FOR OPIOID ABATEMENT STRATEGIES. HERE, THE CITY OF GALVESTON IS GOING TO RECEIVE APPROXIMATELY $595,000 IN THE DIRECT PAYMENT ALLOCATION. I'LL JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THAT J&J NUMBER FOR ABOUT $111,000. THAT'S NOW ANTICIPATED TO ARRIVE IN THE FORM OF ONE PAYMENT INSTEAD OF A PAY OUT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS UNDER A SEPARATE DEAL THAT ARE OFFICE STRUCK WHERE SO MANY OTHER COUNTIES WERE LITIGATING AND BECAUSE THAT NO LONGER WILL BE OVER NINE YEARS. UNDER THE OPIOID ABATEMENT TRUST FUND FOR THAT LARGER POOL OF FUNDS, THAT 70 PERCENT THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE AND THEN FURTHER DIVIDED INTO REGIONS SO THAT EVERY PART OF THE STATE HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FUNDS FOR GRANT PURPOSES AND GALVESTON CITY IS IN REGION 2, SO THAT HAS ABOUT $54 MILLION RELATED TO THE AVAILABLE IN THE FUNDS FROM THESE TWO SETTLEMENT. THEN THE FUNDING HAS BEEN SPLIT UP LIKE THIS IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR NOT ONE CITY OR ONE COUNTY OR ONE REGION TO REALLY HAVE THAT ACCESS TO EVERYTHING. JUST BRIEFLY, THE MONEYS THAT WERE IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, FOR THE DISTRIBUTED IN THE J&J SETTLEMENTS ARE ALL HAS A NUMBER OF OTHER OPIOID RELATED MATTER AS WE EXPECT THE FUNDS FROM THOSE. DIFFERENT MATTER AS WELL EVENTUALLY COME INTO THE STATE AND FLOW ACCORDING TO THE SAME STRUCTURE THAT I JUST DESCRIBED. I'LL HIGHLIGHT TWO CASES FOR THIS. ONE IS PURDUE PHARMA, AND THE OTHER ONE IS MALLINCKRODT. THE BOTH COMPANY THEY'RE OPIOID MANUFACTURERS IN BANKRUPTCY. WE EXPECT THAT THEY WILL EMERGE FROM BANKRUPTCY WITHIN THE YEAR AND THAT FUNDS FROM THOSE BANKRUPTCIES WILL HIT THE STATE ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS WITH FUNDS FROM THE DISTRIBUTORS IN THE J&J SETTLEMENT. THIS IS THE CURRENT LIST OF SIGN ONS, ACTUAL ALLEGATED THAT I PUT TOGETHER THIS MORNING AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO GET THEM COMING IN. WELL, WE HAVE ABOUT 140 CITIES AND COUNTIES SIGN ON WITH MORE WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN [01:25:05] THE PROCESS AND FITTING IT ON THEIR AGENDA OR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS OR COMMITMENTS FOR IT. WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS AND VERY POSITIVE. THEN THE WAY TO SIGN ON FOR THIS IS WE'RE ASKING EVERYONE TO ADOPT THE TEXAS TERM SHEET WITH A MODEL RESOLUTION NOW WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND WE'RE ASKING EVERYONE TO FIND THE SETTLEMENT AND RELEASE FORM THROUGH THE DISTRIBUTOR THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON SETTLEMENT. THESE DOCUMENTS CAN BE SUBMITTED TO US AT OPIOID@OAG.TEXAS.GOV, AND THAT'S OUR WEBSITE TOO, THE LOCAL OPIOID SETTLEMENT THAT HAS MORE INFORMATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU, STEPHANIE. YOU DID MOVE THROUGH IT QUICKLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL, THIS IS 11B ON OUR AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON TO APPROVE IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH JOINING THIS SETTLEMENT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEPHANIE? YES. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH, NOT FIRST STEPHANIE. DIDN'T WE SIGN ON TO SOMETHING LIKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THE GALVESTON COUNTY? >> THAT I DON'T KNOW. I'M SAYING NO. >> THIS SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER TO ME IN TERMS OF WHY WE SHOULD DO IT. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT IS. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WITH COUNCIL, WHICH I FEEL IS APPROPRIATE. BUT STEPHANIE, THESE FUNDS HAVE TO BE USED FOR WHAT YOU'VE OUTLINED THERE WITH EDUCATION AND PREVENTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? >> CORRECT. IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING WITHIN OPIOID NURSES AND I WILL SAY AS WE GO AROUND AND SAY IN TOP OF THE POST EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT IDEAS AND WE HAD SOME CITIES WHO HAVE INTEREST FOR LIKE RECOVERY CENTER. OTHERS ARE EVERY TIME WE SEND SOMEONE TO A HOSPITAL, AND WELL, HAVE AN OVERDOSE, SO WE HAVE TO SEND SOMEBODY WITH THAT PERSON TO THE HOSPITAL AND THAT YOU TOOK A BUNCH OF EMS TIME REQUIRED [INAUDIBLE] WE ARE THE CENTER ON DRUG CALLS FOR THE POLICE. I THINK THAT'S A WIDE RANGE OF, WE PROBABLY WE TALKED ALL THESE IDEAS AND GIVE OUR THOUGHTS ON THEM, BUT REALLY OPIOID NEXT AS PAST OR FUTURE EXPENDITURES RELATED TO OPIOIDS. >> STEPHANIE, THAT DOESN'T APPLY THE DIRECT PAYMENTS. THAT APPLIES TO THE FUNDS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE TRUST THAT'S GOING TO BE CREATED, IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT APPLIES TO THE FUNDS FOR THE DIRECT PAYMENTS. >> AS OPIOID. >> [OVERLAPPING] YEAH. >> STEPHANIE, THANK YOU. I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMATION AND WE'LL BE VOTING ON THAT THIS AFTERNOON. >> YOU'RE WELCOME AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL THIS MORNING. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. [OVERLAPPING] VERY GOOD. ITEM 3D, PLEASE. [3.D. Discussion With Centerpoint On Electrical Infrastructure (C. Brown/Paul Lock - 30 Min)] >> FRED, YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO 3A, PLEASE? BECAUSE WE'RE KEEPING STAFF SITTING HERE FOR A LONG TIME. >> NO STAFF CAN GO UNTIL WE HAVE THREE MORE THINGS. >> WELL, LET ME GET SOME CLEARANCE HERE FROM COUNCIL DAN. WE HAVE SET UP ON THE LINE THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR 10:30. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ITEMS COUNCIL MEMBER ROB HAS STILL TO GO OVER. [OVERLAPPING] QUITE A FEW? COUNCILWOMAN ROB SAYS IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW ITEMS TO GO OVER. >> CAN WE NOW STEP FROM THAT? >> BRIAN, COUNCILWOMAN ROB SAYS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW ITEMS SHE HAS TO GO OVER HERE. >> OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TRINA TO ADDRESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY WITH HER OR- >> WELL, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK ALL COUNCIL PEOPLE WOULD HAVE QUESTIONS AND IT'S JUST NOT TO REBALANCE. >> OKAY. >> I MEAN, WE HAD AGAIN, 54. [OVERLAPPING] >> JANELLE, WE HAVE CENTERPOINT ON THE LINE. LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. WE'LL TRY TO BE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE ON THIS SUBJECT, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT. WE'VE HAD THE WINTER STORM, WE'VE HAD HURRICANE NICHOLAS. THIS IS ITEM 3D, DISCUSSION [NOISE] WITH CENTERPOINT ON ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. BOTH THE STORMS BROUGHT TO THE FRONT THE CONCERN WITH HARDENING OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ELECTRICAL POWER HERE. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT HAVE CONTACTED ME, AM SURE CONTACTED YOU ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO ADDRESS THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS. [01:30:04] SAYING THAT WE HAVE ON THE LINE HERE, WE HAVE CENTERPOINT, I'VE BEEN VISITING WITH THEM PRIOR TO THIS MEETING TO COME FORWARD AND REALLY GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO [NOISE] CORRECT CONCERNS WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL HELP US IN THE FUTURE TO MAYBE AVOID THESE POWER OUTAGES AND THE LENGTH FOR THOSE THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. WE HAVE PAUL LOCK WITH CENTERPOINT. PAUL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE THE OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR GROUP AND THEN AS WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU COULD GIVE MAYBE A VERY SUCCINCT OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE HARDENING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR INVITING US TODAY TO YOUR WORKSHOP. HAPPY TO BE HERE. WITH ME TODAY, I'VE GOT JASON BAGGERLEY WHO'S IN GOVERNMENT RELATIONS WITH MYSELF, AND THEN CARLTON POTTER WHO HANDLES ELECTRIC OPERATIONS, AND TAKEA REEDER WHO IS IN ELECTRIC OPERATIONS AS WELL. I BELIEVE CARLTON IS GOING TO GIVE THE OVERVIEW, IF NOT TAKEA, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CARLTON. >> OKAY, PAUL. I APPRECIATE THE INTRO. SO, I'M HERE BUT IT [INAUDIBLE] WORKSHOP. I MIGHT JUST WRAP THIS UP AFTER WE'RE DONE, BUT TO SET THE STAGE HERE. THANKS FOR INVITING US TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR GREAT WARNING EFFORTS CARLTON IS GOING TO COVER IN A HIGH LEVEL. I'LL TRY TO TAKE ABOUT 30 MINUTES BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO DO AND A LOT OF OTHERS TO HONEST COVER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO COVER THE FULL SPECTRUM OF OUR OPERATIONS AND LET'S GO ABOUT THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THIS IS NOTHING NEW FROM THE RECENT STORMS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR SYSTEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE'RE GOING TO COVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE TRANSITION AREA AND THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE SUBSTATION AREA AND DISTRIBUTION AND WE'LL COVER THINGS LIKE OUR POLE PROGRAMS, RELIABILITY-FOCUSED REHAB WORK THAT'S GOING ON, AND EVEN OUR VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS, I WOULDN'T SAY LESSONS LEARNED, BUT MORE LIKE CHANGES THAT HAVE COME ABOUT FROM THE RECENT STORMS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED. THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CITY BILLS AND HOUSE BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID. WITH THAT, AGAIN, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T DO A THOROUGH INTRODUCTION OF MYSELF. MY NAME IS JASON BAGGERLEY. I'M YOUR GOVERNMENT, LOCAL RELATIONS REPRESENTATIVE. I WORK WITH PAUL A LOT. WE COVER A LITTLE REGULATORY AREA IN ANY NEED OF ELECTRICAL ISSUES IN ANY OF OUR JURISDICTIONS IN THE ELECTRIC BLUEPRINT. NOW, MY BACKGROUND, I STARTED OFF WITH THE COMPANY AS AN ENGINEER, AND I SPENT MOST OF MY TIME AS AN ENGINEER TO A RELIABILITY GROUP. WE FOCUSED ON RELIABILITY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS AND PLANS TO MAKE OUR SYSTEMS BETTER. MOVING INTO OPERATIONS AND THEN I WORKED ON THE IN GALVESTON ON BUSINESS. I HAVE AN ELECTRIC GRID EXPERIENCE, NOW MOVING INTO GOVERNMENT RELATIONS. OVERLAPPING CAN BE HELPFUL TO SOME EXTENT AS WE TALK ABOUT BILLS THEY COULD PASS IN THE FUTURE. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CARLTON SO WE CAN COVER THE AREAS THAT YOU'VE ASKED US TO COVER TODAY. >> AS JASON SAID, I'M THE SERVICE AREA MANAGER THAT NOW HAS THE GALVESTON SERVICE AREA. I'VE BEEN SERVING AS SERVICE AREA MANAGER FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS. FORTY-YEAR EMPLOYEE, I'VE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED, DESIGNED, AND MANAGED ELECTRICAL GRIDS FOR A VERY LONG TIME, ABOUT 40 YEARS OR SO. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU. I KNOW DURING NICHOLAS, I WORKED SOME WITH THE MAYOR AND ALSO WORKED WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS LUWIS AND ROB. IT WAS NICE TO TALK TO BOTH OF YOU AGAIN. ALSO FOR THE MAYOR. IN OUR INDUSTRY, THERE IS A TERM, GRID HARDENING. IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE UTILITIES ACROSS THE NATION, IN FACT, MANY ACROSS THE WORLD ARE WORKING TO ACHIEVE AND WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST LEVEL SET EVERYBODY WITH THE BASICS OF THE ELECTRICAL GRID, THE VERY FUNDAMENTALS OF HOW IT WORKS, AND THE VARIOUS MAJOR COMPONENTS SO THAT OUR DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE SHALL FALL IN PLACE. WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN RELATION TO RELIABILITY. NOW, GRID HARDENING IN ITSELF IS BASICALLY A COMBINED SET OF ACTIONS THAT HELPS TO IMPROVE THE GRID TO REDUCE POWER OUTAGES. THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A GRID HARDENING PROGRAM AND I'LL SET THE PACE RIGHT HERE IN A MOMENT. THE WAY THE ELECTRICAL GRID WORKS IS THAT ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE HOUSTON AREA, [01:35:04] WE HAVE TWO MAJOR ENTITIES. ONE OF THEM ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY MAKE ELECTRICITY AND THEN THERE ARE THOSE THAT DELIVER THE ELECTRICITY AND THAT'S WHAT CENTERPOINT ENERGY DOES. WE ARE THE DELIVERY TRUCKS. WE BRING IT TO YOU, ON OUR POWER LINES. [NOISE] BUT THEN THE ACTUAL COMPANY ITSELF, THERE ARE THREE MAJOR DIVISIONS THAT HELP US GET THAT ELECTRICITY FROM THE GENERATORS OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND THOSE THREE MAJOR AREAS ARE THE TRANSMISSION GRID, THE SUBSTATION PERFORMANCE AREA, AND THEN ALSO THE DISTRIBUTION GRID. THE DISTRIBUTION GRID IS WHERE I'VE WORKED MOST OF MY CAREER. THE TRANSMISSION GRID IS WHAT BRINGS THE ACTUAL ELECTRICITY FROM THOSE ENTITIES THAT ARE MAKING THE ELECTRICITY. IN THE HOUSTON REGION, THEY'RE REFERRED TO AS COMPETITIVE RETAILERS. THE CENTERPOINT ENERGY DOES NOT MAKE ELECTRICITY, WE SIMPLY DELIVER IT. THE BIG TOWERS, THE REALLY TALL, BIG POLES THAT YOU SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, OUT ON THE WEST-END, THEY WERE COMING IN FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF SANDAY PAST INTO THE ISLAND CENTRAL ITSELF. THOSE ARE LARGE POLES OR THE TRANSMISSION GRID. THOSE POWER LINES DROP INTO WHAT WE CALL A SUBSTATION FACILITY WHERE THOSE VERY HIGH VOLTAGES ARE BROKEN DOWN INTO LOWER VOLTAGES THAT ARE ABLE TO BE DISTRIBUTED OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. WE CALL THAT OUR DISTRIBUTION GRID. ALSO, WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT; ARE ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE GOT THAT ARE ACTIVE ON THE ISLAND RELATED TO THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS WITHIN OUR COMPANY; OUR PLANNING GROUP, OUR POLE PROGRAM GROUP, AND OUR VEGETATION MANAGEMENT GROUP. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE LATER IN THE DISCUSSION HERE. IN REGARDS TO WHAT EACH OF THESE MAJOR GROUPS ARE DOING ON THE ISLAND, I ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU. I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU THE INFORMATION THAT I'VE GOT. MUCH OF THIS YOU'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEE IN THE VIDEO. FROM OUR TRANSMISSION GROUP, OF COURSE, WE TALKED ABOUT JUST A SECOND AGO ABOUT THE TRANSMISSION GRID THAT COMES INTO THE ISLAND. THAT COMES IN FROM THE WEST AND IT COMES IN FROM THE NORTH. MANY OF [NOISE] THOSE TRANSMISSION FACILITIES THAT SUPPORT THAT WIRE, I MEAN, FROM THE GENERATORS HAVE BEEN REPLACED; REPLACED FROM WOOD TO CONCRETE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ALSO DOING IS WHEN THEY REPLACE THOSE POLES, WE'RE USING INSULATOR TECHNOLOGY THAT IS MUCH MORE RESISTANT TO TERMINATION ESPECIALLY THE SALTY ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE COAST AND THERE ON THE ISLAND. THEY'RE ALSO IN TERMS OF RESILIENCY AND HARDENING OR ICE CONCERNS, THE BUILD-UP OF ICE ON THE POWER LINES. WE HAVE EXTENSIVELY INSTALLED WHAT'S CALLED ANTI-GALLOPING DEVICES ON OUR WIRE THAT HELP KEEP THAT WIRE STRUCTURALLY SOUND WHEN ICE ACCUMULATES ON IT. KEEPS THE WIRE FROM ACTUALLY DANCING OR GALLOPING DURING AN ICING EVENT, CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE POLES AND THE INSULATORS, WHICH CAN RESULT IN POWER OUTAGES. ANOTHER INTERESTING THING, IF YOU PAY REALLY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE POWER LINES ARE SPECIALLY COMING IN FROM THE NORTH AND THEN ACROSS THE RIVER ON TRESTLE FROM THE MAINLAND TO THE ISLAND. NOTICE ON THAT TOP WIRE, WE HAVE INSTALLED WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS BIRD DIVERTERS. THESE ARE DEVICES THAT HELP BIRDS FROM FLYING INTO THOSE POWER LINES. THEY HELP THE BIRD TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A POWER LINE THERE AND BY DOING THAT, IT KEEPS THOSE BIRDS FROM HITTING THE LINES AND FALLING INTO THE STRUCTURES CAUSING POWER CONCERNS SUCH AS OUTAGES OR BLINKING LIGHTS. AGAIN, THE SUBSTATIONS ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE SIX SUBSTATIONS ON THE ISLAND. THESE ARE TYPICALLY FACILITIES THAT ARE FENCED THERE AND THEY HAVE LARGE TRANSFORMERS THAT ARE GROUND-MOUNTED OR SLIGHTLY ABOVE GROUND MOUNTED THAT ACTUALLY HAVE TRANSFORMERS THE SIZE OF LARGE STORAGE BUILDINGS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO BUILD IN YOUR BACKYARD. THE SUBSTATIONS TAKE 138,000 VOLTS AND THEY STEP IT DOWN TO 7,200 SO THAT IT CAN COME OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. [NOISE] SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE WINTER READINESS, THEY HAVE CHECKED ALL OF THEIR TRANSFORMERS. [01:40:03] THEY'VE MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS PROPERLY RATED FOR THE COLDEST OF TEMPERATURE, AND THEY'VE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT THE SUBSTATIONS [INAUDIBLE] TRANSFORMERS. THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE TRANSFORMERS AND CONTROL HOUSES OR CONTROL CUBICLES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN VERY GOOD OPERATIONAL CONDITION, AND THEY DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS. FROM THE STORM AND FLOOD READINESS, WE HAVE TWO OF THESE SUBSTATIONS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN RAISED ABOVE THE STORM SURGE LINE, AND OF COURSE, ALL OF THESE SUBSTATIONS ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND THE RIGORS OF A MAJOR HURRICANE. THE PROACTIVE BY INSPECTIONS THAT THEY'RE DOING HELP TO MAINTAIN IDENTIFICATION OF ANY OF THE SOLID CONTAMINATION CONCERNS AND IMMEDIATE ATTENTION TO THAT. WE'RE ALSO USING THE TECHNOLOGY THAT KEEPS TRACK OF THE DIRECTION OF WIND AND THE VELOCITY OF WIND. THEY HELP US CALCULATE HOW MUCH CONTAMINATION MIGHT BE INCURRED ON A PARTICULAR FACILITY. THEY ARE ROUTINELY MONITORING OVER THE YEARS OF CORONA CAMERAS TO IDENTIFY ANY HOTSPOTS OR ANY CONCERNS RELATED TO THE CONNECTION OF THOSE SUBSTATIONS, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO ENSURING THAT ALL THE FLUID LEVELS AND THE GAS LEVELS, NOT GASOLINE BUT THE SYSTEMS THEMSELVES PRODUCE CERTAIN LEVELS OF GAS, SO MAKING SURE THAT ALL THOSE LEVELS ARE MAINTAINED AND ACCEPTABLE LEVELS. THEY ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF CAPACITY IN TERMS OF THE SUBSTATION. FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SUBSTATIONS, WE'RE ON AVERAGE OF ABOUT 50 PERCENT CAPACITY, SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO USE THOSE SUBSTATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL GROWTH OF THE ISLAND. FROM THE DISTRIBUTION PERSPECTIVE, THE WORLD THAT I LIVE IN AND THAT JASON HAS LIVED IN MOST OF HIS CAREER, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE INDUSTRY. ONE OF THE LARGEST THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO GRID HARDENING IS THE USE OF STRONGER POLES, DIFFERENT TYPES OF POLES, FOR EXAMPLE, FIBERGLASS AND CONCRETE. WE HAVE AN ACTIVE PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN INITIATED THIS YEAR TO ESTABLISH PROTOCOLS AND PROCESSES BY WHICH ON ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION REHABILITATION TYPE CONSTRUCTION TO LOOK AT THESE OPPORTUNITIES PROVIDED IN THE GRID HARDENING PROGRAM IN ORDER TO USE SOME OF THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND DIFFERENT SIZES POLES TO CREATE A GRID OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT BUT WE GOING TO BEGIN USING THESE NEW PROTOCOLS TO INCREASE POLE SIZE AND USE DIFFERENT TYPES OF POLES, ESPECIALLY ON THE COASTAL AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTAMINATION CONCERNS. THIS IS BASED ON WIND LOADING ZONES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND OUR STAFF IS ACTIVELY USING THAT DESIGN CRITERIA TODAY. WE'RE ALSO INSTALLING ON THOSE STRONGER POLES, NEW TECHNOLOGIES, NEW TYPES OF MATERIAL THAT RESIST CONTAMINATION ESPECIALLY ALONG THE COAST IS PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE SALT SPRAY, THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THE POLES ARE IN. WE HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE WE DEAL WITH CONTAMINATIONS BASED ON POLLUTANTS FROM POWER PLANT AND OPERATIONS OF DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL FACILITIES. WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY ASPECT THAT WE CAN TO REDUCE CONTAMINATION, CAUSATION OF POWER OUTAGES. THEN, OF COURSE, JUST LIKE TRANSMISSION AND EVEN MORE SO ON THE DISTRIBUTION GRID, WE ARE USING A VAST AMOUNT OF AVIAN PROTECTION HARD-WEARING MATERIAL AS WELL AS WILDLIFE PROTECTION MATERIAL TO KEEP THE POWER ON, TO KEEP WILDLIFE SUCH AS SQUIRRELS AND BIRDS, MEDIUM-SIZED MAMMALS AND SUCH FROM BEING ABLE TO TAKE OUT OUR TRANSFORMERS AND OUR FUSED WIRE. A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES OF GRID HARDENING THAT WE HAVE ARE FAIRLY RECENT ON THE ISLAND INCLUDES AN ALLEYWAY PROJECT DOWN HERE AT THE STREAM WHERE WE BASICALLY HAVE REBUILT THE ALLEYWAY. I THINK SOME OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES RELATED TO THE GRID HARDENING INITIATIVE, [01:45:04] AS WELL AS THE AVIAN PROTECTION AND WILDLIFE PROTECTION PROGRAMS. THE SEA WALL HAD A MAJOR EVENT SOME YEARS AGO WHERE WE REPLACED THE STEEL STREET LIGHT POLES WITH CONCRETE POLES TO MINIMIZE FAILURE OF THOSE POLES ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE ON THE SEA WALL. DOWN THE EAST THE END, THERE WAS A CIRCUIT THAT RAN THROUGH A MARSH THAT WE HAVE REMOVED FROM THE UNDERGROUND ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS CONTAMINATING THAT CONDUCTOR. WE INSTALLED THAT CIRCUIT ON CONCRETE POLES TO ALLEVIATE THAT CHALLENGE, AND THEN AGAIN, WE CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS WITH THE POLES THAT YOU SEE COMING IN THROUGH THE END OF THE ISLAND WITH TRANSMISSION EFFORT CONTINUES. WE'VE GOT MORE WORK PLANNED FOR NEXT YEAR, AND OF COURSE, IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE AVIAN PROTECTION EFFORTS. WE HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT ON THE ISLAND, OFF THE ISLAND ITSELF. WE'VE WORKED IN AREAS SUCH AS NEAR 31ST STREET AND AVENUE N REPLACING WIRE AND POLES. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON 28 STREET, NEAR AVENUE Q, REPLACING WIRES AND POLES IN THE AREA. IN STREET IN AVENUE L WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME WORK IN AN AREA CALLED SEA ISLE. WE HAVE OVER 20 ADDITIONAL WORK ORDERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE EXECUTING NEXT YEAR. SOME ARE ACTUALLY UNDERWAY TODAY BUT WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF VERY PROACTIVE WORK IN IDENTIFYING AREAS THAT NEED ATTENTION. WE HAVE GOT THE ENGINEERING NEEDED TO COMPLETE ON SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS OR WE'RE ACTUALLY CREATING THE WORK ORDERS TODAY. FROM THE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, THE PLANNING DIVISION WANTED TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION ALSO. IT LOOKS LIKE THE WEST TO GALVESTON SUBSTATIONS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME WORK ON THAT SUBSTATION. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PLACING THE CONDUCTOR THAT BEADS ONTO PELICAN ISLAND THAT IS NOW MOUNTED ON THE WOOD POLES THAT CROSSES THE BAY THERE OR THE END OF THE SHIP CHANNELS. WE'RE LOOKING AT INSTALLING THAT AS AN UNDERGROUND OR UNDERWATER CABLE SO THAT'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO OCCUR NEXT YEAR AND THAT WILL IMPROVE SOME OF THE RELIABILITY CONCERNS THAT THE PELICAN ISLAND AREA HAS HAD. ON OUR POLE PROGRAM, I KNOW I'M TALKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ROB. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POLES AND [INAUDIBLE] THING DURING NICHOLAS. I HAVE A POLE PROGRAM GROUP PROVIDE ME SOME DATA. THERE'S ROUGHLY 21,000 POLES OR SO THAT WERE INSPECTED AND FOUND IN GOOD CONDITION ON THE ISLAND BETWEEN 2015 AND 2021. THERE WERE 857 THAT HAD BEEN REPLACED AND RAISED TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS ABOUT 1700. NEARLY ALL THE POLES THAT ARE ON GALVESTON ISLAND PROPER HAD BEEN INSPECTED BETWEEN 2015 AND 2021. WE TRY TO DO THAT ON ROUGHLY A 10-YEAR CYCLE THROUGHOUT OUR SYSTEM. THE POLES THEMSELVES AT GROUND LEVEL HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO BE SOUND, BUT STILL WHEN WE'RE DOWN THERE WORKING, AS I SAID EARLIER AS PART OF OUR GRID HARDENING INITIATIVE, WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING POLE REPLACEMENTS WHERE NECESSARY FOR APPROVEMENT USING THE NEW WIND LOADING SPECIFICATIONS AND USING ALL TYPES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. ALSO I WANTED TO KNOW SOME INFORMATION FROM OUR VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, YOU MAY KNOW IT AS OUR FORESTRY DEPARTMENT. THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED THAT THE CIRCUITS ON THE ISLAND FOR THE MOST PART HAS BEEN LOOKED AT AND TRIMMED ACCORDING TO OUR TRIM CYCLE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY ON A PROACTIVE BASE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND A FIVE TO SIX YEAR PERIOD ON THE SYSTEM THAT IS ON THE ISLAND. MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT WE DO HAVE A REACTIVE PROGRAM ALSO, THAT WE KNOW TREES GROW AT DIFFERENT RATES. THERE'S NO LIFE AROUND THERE JUST TRIMMING TREES EVERY SIX YEARS. WE TRIM TREES EVERY DAY AND WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS, [01:50:04] WORKING WITH CUSTOMERS UP IN THE FIELD IS TRAINED TO HELP IDENTIFY OR ADDITIONAL REACTIVE TREE TRACKING IS REQUIRED. THIS WHOLE GRID HARDENING INITIATIVE THAT'S GOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAS ITS CHALLENGES. BUT UTILITIES ARE STEPPING UP. THE LOCAL UTILITY HERE [INAUDIBLE] ENERGY, IS ONE OF THOSE THAT IS STEPPING UP. THERE ARE MANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT. MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS WITHIN THE COMPANY THAT ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN ASSISTING WITH THIS EFFORT. JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE OUT THERE REPLACING EVERY FALLEN SYSTEM WITHIN FOUR, FIVE YEARS, BUT THERE IS A CONCERTED, VERY ORGANIZED ENGINEERED EFFORT IN ORDER TO STRENGTHEN OUR GRID, HARDEN OUR GRID AND MAKE IT MUCH MORE RESILIENT. WITH THAT SAID I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO YOU JUDGE. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. HERE TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN NOT NECESSARILY LEFT TO LEARN, BUT CHANGES THAT CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE RECENT WEATHER EVENT, WAS THAT ONE OF YOU PROBABLY NOTICED THAT THERE'S BEEN A REORGANIZATION AND PRETTY MUCH STAFF HAS BEEN CHANGED. WHILE OUR [INAUDIBLE] ARE KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THE BILLS BEING PROPOSED TO POWER AS A RESULT OF THE RECENT WHETHER EVENTS, GOVERNOR ABED ACTUALLY ADDED SOME EMERGENCY DEALS TO THE LIST. TWO, THAT HAS ENABLED US TO BRING ABOUT SOME CHANGE. I HEAR THERE'S ONE TOP OF THOSE 140 DEGREES AND THE ANOTHER ONE'S 23 AND 24, 83 IN PARTICULAR, GAVE US THE ABILITY AND TO USE COMPANIES LIKE CENTER POINT THAT DELIVER THE ELECTRICITY, THE ABILITY TO LEASE GENERATORS AND DEPLOY THEM TO AREAS IN ACTUAL NEED. WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR FIRST USE OF THESE DURING HURRICANE NICHOLAS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE AVAILABLE TOOLS FOR FUTURE EVENTS. I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH A SAMPLE FROM ALL OF OUR MEETINGS. ALL OF THE COUNTIES THAT WE SERVE, INCLUDING SOME OF THE CITY LEADERSHIP, SO THAT WE COULD GET AN IDEA OF HOW THESE WE WANTED TO USE, AND I MADE CALLS DURING THE HURRICANE JUST TO FIND OUT WHERE THERE ARE LOCATIONS THAT WE COULD USE. THESE ARE [INAUDIBLE] GENERATORS THAT I'M ACTUALLY CREATING AND SEND SMALL MICRO GRIDS, SO WE HAVE TARGETED TO USE THOSE AND TYPICALLY IT'S WHY PROPERTY HAS BEEN STABILIZING IN THERE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MOVING INTO THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE ON THESE WIDESPREAD OUTAGES. CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO BE OUT EIGHT HOURS OR MORE AND, THE WORST PART IS TO GO TO AREAS THAT, HOSPITALS, OF COURSE, WITH PHIL AND GENERATORS [INAUDIBLE] LOCATIONS. OURS ARE AREAS THAT COULD USE THE SCHOOL DISTRIBUTION, COOL BLUE AND WARM AND SPACE AND THINGS. ALSO IT'S GOING TO BUILD THREE, THAT CAME ABOUT. GAVE US THE ABILITY TO MANAGE NONRESIDENTIAL LOAD SHARED TO WORK ON HAVING A CRITICAL CARE LIST THAT WOULD CAPTURE MORE CUSTOMERS IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND ALSO THESE REQUIREMENTS, THE WEATHERIZATION OF SOME OF THE POWER PLANTS, SO THAT IF ANOTHER EXTREME COLD WEATHER EVENT OCCURRED AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS ON THE GENERATIONAL SIDE WHICH WE'RE NEVER NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR. THESE THINGS ARE STILL BEING WORKED ON. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ADDITIONAL CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THESE TWO BILLS AND OTHERS THAT ARE THERE. WITH THAT, THIS IS COMPLETE OF WHAT WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AND I GUESS WE CAN TAKE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE SIX MINUTES OR SO WE HAVE LEFT >> YES, WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. JUST BEFORE WE START THOSE. GENTLEMEN, I WANTED TO JUST HAVE YOU MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON THE LOAD SHARED HERE AS WE HAD IN THE WINTER STORM, THE INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING IS THAT GALVESTON WAS FOCUSED ON TO SHARE THIS ELECTRICITY AND WE FEEL THAT THAT SHOULD BE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT YOUR ENTIRE DISTRIBUTION AREA. THANK YOU FOR THAT LOUD AND CLEAR HERE, AND I HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE, IF WE HAVE TO SHARE ELECTRICITY, THAT THAT'S DISTRIBUTED AROUND TO BE AN EQUAL TYPE OF CONCERN FOR EVERYBODY. >> MAYOR ON THE LOAD SHARED DURING THE WINTER STORM, I REALLY CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE ON. [01:55:04] IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REVISIT ON. I THINK A SPECIFIC COMMUNICATION WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AFTER THE STORM BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT BEEN AVAILABLE. >> OKAY. WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT THEN, WE WILL HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ON THAT. COUNCILWOMAN ROB. >> IN MY DISTRICT, WE CONTINUED TO HAVE ISSUES WITH WIND, AND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING MAJOR STORMS WE'RE TALKING 15 TO 30 MILE WINDS. I THINK YESTERDAY I HAD ABOUT 1200 PEOPLE DOWN FOR THREE TO FOUR HOURS AND SINCE MY DISTRICT IS THE MOST EXPOSED BY COASTAL ISSUES, I WOULD LIKE TO GET A BETTER IDEA ON THE TIMELINE WHEN YOU WILL BE ADDRESSING THE HARDENING BECAUSE WE CONSTANTLY HAVE LIGHTS GOING OFF AND ON. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> YEAH, SIR. YESTERDAY WE ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED WHAT THAT CAUSE WAS. WE ACTUALLY HAD A WIRE THAT BROKE AND FELL INTO THE POWER LINE. THAT WAS A CONCERN FOR ME KNOWING WHAT CIRCUIT THAT THAT WAS ON. COUNCIL MEMBER ROB, I'LL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE SCHEDULES RELATED TO THE 20-PLUS WORK ORDERS WE HAVE GOT SCHEDULED ON THE ISLAND, AND THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A SCHEDULE HERE FOR WHEN WE ANTICIPATE TO GET SOME OF THIS WORK DONE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING PROACTIVE. I HAVE HAD PEOPLE NOT ONLY ON THE ISLAND LOOKING AT THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS. JUST TO LEVEL SET EVERYONE, I HAVE HANDLED RESPONSIBILITY FOR GALVESTON ISLAND FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS NOW. AT A TIME PERSONALLY THEY'RE GETTING TO KNOW THE ISLAND AND ITS CIRCUITS. I'VE HAVE HAD A LOT OF STAFF WORKING WITH ME, ADDRESSING CONCERNS AND PREPARING WORK ORDERS RELATED TO RELIABILITY CONCERNS. IT'S NOT JUST ON THE WEST END OR THE EAST END BUT IT'S THE ISLAND IN WHOLE. I'M ASKING FOR SOME PERSONAL PATIENTS ON MY BEHALF TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH WHAT I'M DOING AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME RECORD OUT ON SPECIFIC WORK ORDERS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I THINK I'VE PROVEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROB DURING NICHOLAS, AND COUNCIL MEMBER LOUIS, THAT WE CAN GET THINGS DONE, BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME HERE TO GET SOME OF THESE WORK ORDERS EXECUTED AND PUT TOGETHER A COMMUNICATION PLAN FOR YOU. [OVERLAPPING] >> [INAUDIBLE] AND CARLTON IF YOU COULD SEND THOSE WORK ORDER A PRIORITY LIST, SEND THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER HERE, IF YOU WOULD, AND WE'LL GET THAT DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL AS SOON AS YOU GET THAT TOGETHER. >> WHEN? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> ADDING ON TO MINE, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING INTO PLAY, LIKE QUITE A FEW ROOF TOPS. I GUESS MY OTHER CONCERN, AS OF EXPRESSED VIEW CARLTON WOULD BE THE CAPACITY ON THE TRANSFORMERS OR THE GENERATORS, WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM. >> SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER ROB, I WAS NOT ABLE TO HEAR THE LAST PART OF YOUR SENTENCE. >> WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING IN MY DISTRICTS. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW ROOFTOPS THAT ARE COMING INTO PLAY. MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT CAPACITY OF THE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU CALL THEM, TRANSFORMER THINGS. >> YEAH. THE TRANSFORMERS AT THE SUBSTATION. >> SUBSTATION, THANK YOU. >> REST ASSURED THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF CAPACITY ON THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE. KEEP IN MIND ALSO THAT THESE SUBSTATIONS ARE NOT INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER. THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH INTERCONNECTED THROUGH THE ELECTRICAL GRID AND LIFTS A PIECE ON A REGULAR BASIS, ANY LOADS THAT ARE COMING IN, THEY EVALUATE THE ABILITY OF THE SUBSTATIONS TO WORK THAT LOAD OR HANDLE IT. BUT ALSO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE INTERCONNECTIVITY AND THE BACKUP BECAUSE THESE SUBSTATIONS BACK UP EACH OTHER. ALL OF COUNCIL, REST ASSURED THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF CAPACITY OF SUBSTATIONS FOR [02:00:02] ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD BRING TOWARDS THE [INAUDIBLE]. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? >> GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU CONCERNING THIS LOAD SHARED ISSUE. GET MORE INFORMATION AND MAYBE GET SOME RESOLUTION TO ANY FUTURE PROBLEMS ON THAT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE GREATLY APPRECIATED THAT. NOW YOU GUYS, [NOISE] FOR NOW CONCENTRATE ON GALVESTON. WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING US. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MOVING TO ITEM 3A IF WE COULD. [3.A. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (20 Minutes) (Part 2 of 2)] COUNCILWOMAN ROB, YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE YOUR QUESTIONS. >> ON 11R AND Q ON CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR 37 STREET FROM SEAWATER BROADWAY, THAT SEEMS REALLY HIGH. >> LET'S SAY HERE [OVERLAPPING] WE'VE GOT STAFF COMING BACK IN. [BACKGROUND] LET'S SEE. BRIAN, COUNCILMAN ROB IS ON 11Q AND 11R. >> WHAT IS THE QUESTION, MA'AM? >> THE COST ON THAT JUST SEEMS EXTREMELY HIGH, AND I JUST WONDER HOW IT WAS WITH A COMBINATION OF ALMOST 30 MILLION FROM ROB WAY TO SEAWALL. >> ACTUALLY, THE COST CAME OUT SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT. WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER. YOU GOT TO CONSIDER THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE COST OF RAW MATERIALS ARE HIGHER BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND JUST THE LACK OF EMPLOYEES WORKING IN THE CONSTRUCTION SITE. >> IT WAS COMPETITIVELY BID. >> IT WAS COMPETITIVELY BID. IF I RECALL, WE HAD THREE BIDDERS, MAIN LANE, T CONSTRUCTION, AND TLC. TLC IS A PRETTY LARGE COMPANY. THEY'RE DOING WORK WITH THE BOARD AND WE THOUGHT THEY WERE THE LOW BID, [NOISE] AND WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT COMPETITION HERE TO SHOW SOME OF THE OTHERS THERE ARE OTHER BIG COMPANIES COMING IN. >> WE HAVE SENT A LOT TO MAIN LANE. >> WE COMPETITIVELY BID. WE TRY TO GIVE IT TO THE LOW BIDDER. >> BUT SOMETIMES JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE ISLAND, THEY'RE THE LOW BIDDER DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF JOB THEY'RE DOING. >> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME USING TLC. I THINK THE PORT'S BEEN HAPPY WITH THEM. WE'LL SEE. >> WE CHECKED THE REFERENCES. WE REACHED OUT TO DIFFERENT PLACES. THEY'RE A VERY LARGE COMPANY. >> HOW COME THIS PROJECT IS COSTING SO MUCH MORE THAN THE OTHER STREET PROJECTS? >> WELL, THIS IS A TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION. THIS ISN'T JUST A MILL AND OVERLAY, WE'RE DOING THE PIPES OF WATER, SEWER PIPES ON NEW CONNECTIONS, ON NEW DRAINAGE FROM BROADWAY TO THE SEAWALL, AND THEN WE'RE DOING CURBS AND SIDEWALKS WHERE NEEDED AND THEN THE WHOLE STREET REDONE. >> WHAT ABOUT SEWAGE? >> SEWAGE, YES. WATER AND SEWAGE. [NOISE] >> WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE A BIG PROJECT LIKE THIS IN MY DISTRICT, SO ALL I CAN SAY, WE SEE THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. >> WHEN YOURS GETS TO BE 130 YEARS OLD LIKE THIS ONE, IT WILL BE UP. [LAUGHTER] >> I WON'T EVEN BE THERE BECAUSE SOME ARE ALREADY [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY ALL OVER THE ISLAND. >> [OVERLAPPING] ABSOLUTELY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM. >> ON THOSE TWO TOPICS? >> YEAH, ON THESE TWO TOPICS. WAS THERE A NEEDS ASSESSMENT DONE AND WAS THERE A FEASIBILITY STUDY DONE ON THIS? >> WE DID HAVE AN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT COME AND DO THE DESIGN. ALL THAT STARTED PRIOR TO MY APPOINTMENT HERE, SO I CAN'T SAY WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS, BUT WHAT I CAN SHARE IS THIS, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE FIRST PROJECT WHERE WE BROUGHT OPERATIONS, MYSELF AND SEVERAL TEAM MEMBERS INTO PLAY. WE BROUGHT THEIR INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE INTO IT, WE SET UP MANY MEETINGS TO REVIEW THE PLANS. THEN WE FORCED THE ENGINEER OF RECORD TO MEET US ON SITE AND WE SPENT AN ENTIRE DAY WALKING THE ENTIRE SITE WITH GIS AND PLANS IN HANDS. THIS WAS AT THE 90 PERCENT DESIGN. BY THE TIME WE WERE DONE WITH THE WALK-THROUGH, IT TOOK THEM ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE 60 PERCENT MARK AND IT EXTENDED THEIR DESIGN BY THREE MONTHS. >> IT'S BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] 20 TO 30 YEARS AGO, THE CITY DIDN'T PRODUCE AS-BUILTS, SO WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS WHEN WE DO THESE THINGS, WHICH IS SAD BECAUSE THE CONTRACTORS THEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE, BUT THEY WERE NOT, APPARENTLY THEY HAD SOME DEAL. BUT WE MAKE THEM PROVIDE THAT FOR US NOW, [02:05:02] AND WE INPUT IT IN OUR GIS, SO IT'S 100 PERCENT ACCURATE. >> THAT'S FINE, BUT AGAIN, WALKTHROUGHS, GETTING ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS TOGETHER IS FINE, BUT AS SO MANY OF THESE JOBS, LIKE MS. MAXWELL SAID, THAT SOME OF THESE JOBS ARE SO OLD WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S DOWN UNDERNEATH THAT GROUND BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS, EVERY ONE OF THESE JOBS I LOOK AT, WE ALWAYS RUN INTO COST OVERRUN, AND THAT'S WHY I KEEP ASKING, HAS THERE BEEN A COMPLETE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND A FEASIBILITY STUDY DONE? THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. 45TH STREET IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. IF WE WOULD HAVE DONE A COMPLETE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE WOULD HAVE FOUND SOME OF THE ERRORS THERE AND IT WOULDN'T COST US SO MUCH. THAT'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE JOBS ON AN AVERAGE, IT'S 10, MAYBE 11.5 PERCENT COST OVERRUNS IF YOU DO A WHOLE AVERAGE OF ALL THE JOBS. >> WELL, BUT THAT'S NOT ALL COST OVERRUNS. A LOT OF THAT IS INCREASE IN SCOPE THAT COUNCIL APPROVES BECAUSE WE DO OTHER OPTIONS, BILL. YOU CAN'T LUMP IT ALL TOGETHER LIKE THAT. >> WELL, IN A WAY, YES. IN A WAY, NO. BECAUSE THEN AGAIN, IF YOU DO YOUR FEASIBILITY STUDY, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW AND NOT MISS ANYTHING. SAME THING WITH THIS. IMAGINE MAYBE MARIA BRING THE AIRPORT. WE'RE SPENDING X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR ASBESTOS ABATEMENT. ALL THAT COULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT ON A FEASIBILITY STUDY. WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, HOW IT NEEDED TO BE DONE, YOUR INSPECTORS WENT IN THERE AND GAVE US ALL THAT INFORMATION, THEN WE CAN LAY DOWN ALL THE MONEY. THAT'S MY POINT. >> POINT WELL TAKEN, BILL. 11Q AND 11R, WE'RE ON THOSE TWO SUBJECTS. COUNCIL [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'RE GOOD. A QUICK QUESTION. DID YOU SAY FROM BROADWAY TO SEAWALL? >> YES, MA'AM. THERE'S TWO OF PROJECTS, ONE THAT GOES FROM BROADWAY TO P AND THEN FROM P TO SEAWALL. >> YEAH, WE SPLIT IT UP. >> IS THERE A REASON WHY WE SPLIT IT UP? >> WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET BETTER COMPETITION. WE THOUGHT THAT IF THE SECTIONS WERE SMALLER, THAT WE CAN GET MORE COMPANIES IN, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THOUGH, THIS COMPANY WAS THE LOW BID ON BOTH. THEY BID ON BOTH [OVERLAPPING] >> TRY TO BREAK IT UP, THAT WAY IF THERE'S A SMALL COMPANY, WE TRY TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY. >> IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WERE THE HIGH SCORE WHEN WE DID OUR QUALIFICATIONS ON THEM AND WE DID OUR VALUATIONS AND INTERVIEWS, THEY WERE THE HIGHEST SCORE AND THE LOW BID. >> NOW I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE USING SOMEONE OTHER THAN MAIN LANE SINCE WE'VE HAD SO MANY NOT GOOD THINGS HAPPEN WITH THAT COMPANY. >> WELL, THAT'S OKAY. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT. >> YES, GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> NEXT ITEM IS REVENUE, WHICH IS THE $50,000 FOR THE LEGAL CONTRACT, AND DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE 73RD STREET? >> NO, MA'AM. EVERY YEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SET OURSELVES UP WITH LLOYD GOSLING, AND THEN WE'LL CREATE A PURCHASE ORDER WITH AN AUTHORIZED AMOUNT, SO IN THIS CASE IT'S $50,000. WHAT WE DO IS WE USE LLOYD GOSLING TO HANDLE ALL OF OUR TCEQ COMPLIANCE ISSUES, PERMITTING ISSUES, PRE-TREATMENT, SOME OF THE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE TO DO ON PRE-TREATMENT SIDE AS WELL AS OUR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW INITIATIVE. THEY MANAGE THAT FOR US AND THEY SUBMIT EVERYTHING FOR US. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. IF WE HAVE A FAILURE OUT THERE, AND LET'S SAY A CONTRACTOR COST FAILURE, DO THESE ATTORNEYS GET INVOLVED IN IT, TO SEE MORE OR LESS WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT, IS THE CITY GOING TO PAY FOR IT, OR IT'S THE FAULT OF THE CONTRACTOR, ARE THEY GOING TO PAY FOR IT? >> NO, SIR. WE DON'T HAVE IT SET UP THAT WAY. I ASSUME WE COULD GO THAT ROUTE IF WE WANTED TO, BUT IN OUR AREA, WE TYPICALLY JUST USE THEM FOR REGULATORY AND COMPLIANCE COMPONENTS. [NOISE] TYPICALLY, IF WE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD, WE'D REACH OUT TO DON AND HIS GROUP FIRST AND GET GUIDANCE ON WHAT DIRECTION TO GO. >> IS THIS A COST THAT COMES UP EVERY YEAR OR ARE WE SAYING LAST YEAR WE USE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IS ALL USED UP, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO [OVERLAPPING] >> YES, SIR. >> DID WE USE IT ALL LAST YEAR? >> WE DID. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY CAME BACK LATER IN THE YEAR TO ASK FOR MORE. >> WHAT WERE THE CAUSES OF USING THIS TO ASK FOR MORE REVENUE? >> ONE OF THE BIGGEST CAUSES WAS LAST YEAR THERE WAS A POINT WHERE GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY WAS TRYING TO BUILD A DSL PLANT ON OUR ISLAND TO SERVE ONE OF OUR LARGEST CUSTOMERS. AT THAT POINT, THE QUESTION I ASKED LLOYD GOSLING WAS, HOW ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THIS IF WE HAVE A CCN IN THIS AREA? DURING THAT TIME, WE INVESTIGATED OUR CCN BOUNDARIES, WHERE THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO PUT IT WAS WITHIN OUR CCN AND THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO. [02:10:02] HOWEVER, AT THAT TIME, WE REALIZE THAT TWO-THIRDS OF THE ISLAND WAS NOT CERTIFICATED, AND SO WE WENT THROUGH A YEAR-LONG PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATION TO DO THAT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S ALL DONE, IT'S SUBMITTED, AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PUC'S COMMISSION, I GUESS, APPROVAL. THAT'S LIKE A BIG CHUNK OF IT. IN ADDITION, WE GOT HOT AND HEAVY WITH OUR PRE-TREATMENT PROGRAM. THERE'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS THAT WE REALLY JUST HADN'T BEEN ENFORCING IN THE PAST AND WE STARTED GOING DOWN THAT ROAD HEAVIER THIS YEAR. >> YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD FROM SOME OF THE RESTAURANT OWNERS ABOUT THE GREASE TRAPS AND THINGS BECAUSE THAT CAUSES 99 PERCENT OF OUR SEWER BACKUPS. >> WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM ON THAT, CORRECT? >> YOU BET. >> I LOVE THAT LITTLE VIDEO THAT [OVERLAPPING] WE SHOULD BE SHOWING THAT MORE. >> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, WE HAVE FOUR ATTORNEYS ON STAFF, RIGHT? >> WE DON'T, YES. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A HIGHLY SPECIALIZED, HIGHLY REGULATED AREA OF PRACTICE. I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD THING TRINO BEING ABLE TO CALL THESE PEOPLE UP IMMEDIATELY. SAY I'M HAVING THIS PROBLEM, AND GET AHEAD OF IT WITH TCEQ BEFORE EVEN BIGGER PROBLEMS ENSUE. IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> IF THERE'S A PROBLEM YOU CALL THEM UP, YOU REPORT IT, THEY DECIDE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO WITH TCEQ, CORRECT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. >> DO WE GO TO CITY ATTORNEY FIRST BEFORE YOU TAKE THAT STEP? DO YOU GET ADVICE FROM DON OR ONE OF THE [OVERLAPPING] >> TYPICALLY, I DON'T UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING UNUSUAL. IF IT'S STRAIGHT REGULATORY, I'LL PICK UP THE PHONE AND JUST CALL THEM AND WE START WORKING THROUGH IT. IF IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEN I'LL SEEK ADVICE. >> MIGHT AS WELL STATE THEY'RE MY NEXT ONES FOR YOU TOO. [LAUGHTER] I THINK IT'S TO 11Z. >> WELL, [OVERLAPPING] IS THIS STILL WITH TRINO? >> YEAH. >> 11Z IS CINDY. >> FROM CINDY. >> ELEVEN WHAT? >> TRINO MAY DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, WOULD YOU KNOW? >> DID YOU SAY Z? >> 11Z IS [INAUDIBLE]. >> OH, 11Z. >> 11Z. >> IT'S THE CHEMICAL DISINFECTION ANALYZER SYSTEMS [OVERLAPPING]. >> WELL, MY QUESTION IS ON THE SOLE SOURCING. BECAUSE IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THEY WERE THE ONLY COMPANY WHO DID IT WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO LEGAL SOLE SOURCING. >> RIGHT. AGAIN, WHAT THIS REALLY DOES IS THEY COME AROUND AND THEY LOOK AT ALL OF OUR WATERWAYS, WATER DISINFECTION, CHLORINE SYSTEMS. THEY DO THE MAINTENANCE, THEY DO THE ANNUAL INSPECTION. WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO AN ANNUAL INSPECTION AND WE GET A STICKER FOR IT WHEN TCEQ COMES AROUND, THEY'LL LOOK FOR THAT STICKER. THEY MAKE SURE THAT THE DISINFECTION SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY, THEY MAINTAIN IT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMPETITION FOR THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. >> I THOUGHT WE HAD A LEGAL THING WE HAD TO FOLLOW WHEN WE SOLE SOURCE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THERE IS. [OVERLAPPING] >> MIKE CARUSO HAS A CHECKLIST HE GOES THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] MIKE, YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THE QUALIFICATION? >> YES. ON THE FIRST THING, RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE FOLLOW, SOLE SOURCE IS A COMBINATION OF MULTIPLE THINGS THAT [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] >> SIR, COULD YOU COME UP? >> YES. >> WHILE HE'S COMING UP TO THE [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] ONE THING I CAN SHARE IS ONCE WE BUY EQUIPMENT FROM A SPECIFIC GROUP, TYPICALLY THAT GROUP MAINTAINS THAT EQUIPMENT. THAT'S WHAT ENDS UP MAKING IT A SOLE SOURCE. WITH OUR SCADA SYSTEM WE HAVE A PROPRIETARY SYSTEM THAT WE CHOSE, AND SO FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, WE USE SCHNEIDER TO TAKE CARE OF THAT EQUIPMENT. IF WE WANTED TO SWITCH EQUIPMENT, WE COULD, BUT IT WOULD COST MILLIONS. >> RIGHT. >> SAME THING LIKE WHEN WE BOUGHT ALL THE RADIOS. >> RIGHT. >> YES. GOOD. >> TO HELP WITH THIS SOLE SOURCE. >> YOU NEVER GET TO STAND, THAT'S WHY I PUT THIS ONE ON YOU. >> USUALLY I AM STANDING BUT I'M SO SHORT [LAUGHTER]. >> FOR THE PUBLIC, COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF. MY NAME IS MIKE CARUSO, I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY NOW FOR APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS, PURCHASING MANAGER. THIRTY YEARS WITH THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL. SOLE SOURCE; NO DIFFERENT HERE THAN IT IS WITH THE STATE OR WITH ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT INSTITUTION. THERE'S A DEFINITION FOR IT, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CAN GO INTO SOLE SOURCE. AS TRINO INDICATED, YOU BUY A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND YOU ONLY HAVE A DISTRIBUTOR OR SOMEONE WHO'S AUTHORIZED TO WORK ON THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, IF NOT, YOU BREAK THE WARRANTY, [02:15:01] IT COST YOU MORE MONEY THAN IT'S WORTH. THERE IS A DEFINED WAY OF DEFINING SOLE SOURCE. WE, WITH JA'NICE UPSTAIRS IN PURCHASING AND MYSELF, WE GO THROUGH IT TO FIND [INAUDIBLE]. HE CAN TELL YOU, EITHER HE'S IN THE CHAIR IN FRONT OF ME AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AS WE DID ONE YESTERDAY. I KEEP TELLING HIM, "WHEN IT COMES TO ME, I'M THE ONE WHO HAS TO DEFEND IT. >> RIGHT. >> IN THESE SOLE SOURCES THAT YOU SEE, THE 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOLE SOURCES, I USUALLY GO THROUGH IT WITH A 5-2 CODE ASKING THE QUESTION SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND I PUT HIM IN THE HOT SEAT. NOT ONLY HIM BUT EVERYONE ELSE WHO WALKS IN. RANDY CAN TELL YOU THE SAME THING. >> WELL, GOOD. >> I MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S COMPETITION, IT GOES BACK TO OPENING UP COMPETITION FOR ALL THE SOURCING EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE AT THE CITY. BECAUSE IT'S CALLED CAUSEWAY CURSE. TO GET PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THAT CAUSEWAY, IS A DIFFICULT THING. IT COSTS MONEY. >> RIGHT. >> THERE'S AN EXTRA DOLLAR PUT ON GETTING FOLKS TO COME ACROSS THAT CAUSEWAY TO DO BUSINESS. RAW MATERIALS, IN THE LAST YEAR SINCE THE PANDEMIC, HAS BEEN DRIVEN UP THROUGH THE CEILING AND IT CONTINUES TO BE THAT WAY. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THIS STUFF COMING. BUT GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION. THERE IS A DEFINITION FOR IT AND WE DO ENSURE THAT IT'S BEING RUN CORRECTLY. >> IS THAT THE SAME THING THEN WITH THE ITEM THAT WAS FOR THE WASTE DISPOSAL? FOR THE SOLE SOURCE, SAME THING? >> IT IS. WITH THAT PARTICULAR ONE, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT WILL ACCEPT THAT TYPE OF WASTE. IF WE WERE TO TRY TO GO OUT TO A DIFFERENT PLACE, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO HOUSTON AND THAT'D BE VERY COSTLY AT THAT POINT. >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING SOLE SOURCE BECAUSE GEOGRAPHICALLY YOU CAN TIE A SERVICE INTO A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA COST-WISE. YOU CAN ACTUALLY TIE COST INTO THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE OF THE SUPPOSED ONE THAT WE'RE USING, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DRIVE PAST THE ONE THAT CURRENTLY HAVE, JUST TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO GET UP TO [NOISE] TO ANOTHER LANDFILL THAT MAY BE A 100 MILES AWAY. GEOGRAPHICALLY, YOU CAN TIE THAT IN. NOW, IF THERE WAS ANOTHER LANDFILL SIDE BY SIDE, THEN WE WOULDN'T TIE INTO SOLE SOURCE. >> RIGHT. >> OKAY. WHERE ARE YOU FROM? >> THE DEEP SOUTH. [LAUGHTER]. >> WHERE? >> PHILADELPHIA? >> ME TOO, [OVERLAPPING] I KNEW I RECOGNIZED YOUR ACCENT. >> HOW ABOUT YOU? >> SOUTHWEST. >> OH, OKAY. I [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER] >> WELCOME. >>THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, TRINO. [LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE IT. >> I KNEW I RECOGNIZED THAT ACCENT. [LAUGHTER] >> ALL RIGHT. WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE, ROSE? >> [NOISE] WE'LL SEE HOPEFULLY, YOU'LL NEVER PUT 54 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AGAIN, [LAUGHTER] THAT MAKE ME READ EACH AND EVERY ONE. [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S GOOD. >> FOR SIX HOURS. >> THAT'S WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO, AND THAT'S WHY STAFF IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO 11MM. IT FALLS THROUGH TO ALL THE IT STAFF. >> ELEVEN WHAT? >> MM. >> 11MM. >> MM, DOUBLE M? >> SINCE WE WENT THROUGH THE ALPHABET TWICE. WE WERE TOO SHY FROM GOING THROUGH THE ALPHABET TWICE EXPECT UNDER TT, THERE WERE THREE SUBS, WHICH IS WHAT TOOK US UP TO 54 CONSENT ITEMS. ANYWAY, I KNOW COMPUTERS HAVE A SHORT LIFETIME, BUT WE'RE PURCHASING A LOT OF COMPUTERS, WE'RE DOING A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, WE'RE DOING A RENEWAL OF THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, AND SO FORTH. I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER, ESPECIALLY ON MM, ARE WE BUYING SO MANY MORE COMPUTERS AND MONITORS BECAUSE WE NEED THEM OR BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SPENT THE MONEY? >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 18 REQUESTS IN FOR NEW EQUIPMENT, THAT'S JUST NEW NOT ALREADY IN INVENTORY, FOR FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THEN THE REST OF THAT IS OUR DESKTOP REFRESH OR EQUIPMENT REFRESH THAT CYCLES EQUIPMENT THAT'S REACHED ITS USEFUL AGE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY BETWEEN 4-5 YEARS. >> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY WHEN WE GET TO ONE OF THOSE COMPUTERS THAT ARE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, WHICH YOU CAN TELL MINE IS LONGER THAN THAT, BUT I'M ABOUT TO GET MY NEW ONE. DO WE DONATE THEM TO SOMEONE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THEM? >> WE HAVE DONATED THEM IN THE PAST. WE DONATED A LOT OF THEM TO THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON FOR USE WITH THEIR CLASS. BUT TYPICALLY WE SELL THEM. WE SELL THEM VIA SURPLUS, VIA GOOD DEALS. >> SEEMS LIKE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DONATE THEM TO KIDS IN NEED ONE [INAUDIBLE] MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF A [OVERLAPPING]. >> THESE ARE PRETTY DUMB TERM RULES, THEY ARE NOT [OVERLAPPING]. [02:20:01] >> YEAH. WE HAVE A POLICY, THERE'S A GREAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> DO THEY HAVE DRIVES ON? >> THEY DON'T HAVE DRIVES ON, WE SHRED DRIVES. ALL YOU'RE REALLY GETTING IS THE OUTSIDE. THERE'S NO BRAINS TO IT. THEY'RE GONE. >> WHEN YOU COULD HAVE MAYBE MIGHT WANT TO TALK WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SCHUSTER TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT BOHAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE FOR THEIR KIDS IN NEED. [OVERLAPPING]. >> THEY'RE GETTING NICER COMPUTERS BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY DO [LAUGHTER]. >> NO, WE DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. [OVERLAPPING] [BACKGROUND] >> LET'S GO BACK TO LAVINIA. MA'AM, ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS JUST ON THAT? >> YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. I LOOK AT THE SOURCES. YOU HAVE VARIOUS CITY ACCOUNTS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ARE YOU TAKING OUT OF MR. MAXWELL'S ACCOUNT ARE YOU TAKING IT OUT OF TRINO'S ACCOUNT? >> I MIGHT BE. FOR THE DESKTOP REFRESHER, THE EQUIPMENT REFRESH, THAT'S BUDGETED OUT OF IT. HOWEVER, THERE ARE DEPARTMENTS THAT PUT IN THEIR BUDGETS, OUR AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS ONE OF THEM, WHO ACTUALLY PUT IN TO HOWLS NEW STAFF. THEY PUT IN $4,000 TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT BASED ON THE COST THAT WE PROVIDED THEM INITIALLY. SOME OF IT WILL COME OUT OF IT AND SOME OF IT WILL COME OUT WITH DIFFERENT OPERATING DEPARTMENT BUDGETS. >> IF I GO THROUGH MR. MAXWELL TO GO TO YOU, YOU LIKE THAT DON'T YOU, GO THROUGH YOU TO GO TO YOU. >> I LIKE THAT A LOT. >> WE'RE BRINGING THAT UP NEXT MEETING. BUT ANYWAY, IF I WERE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MR. MAXWELL IS SPENDING ON COMPUTERS OR IF I WANT TO KNOW TRINO OR ANYBODY ELSE'S DEVICE, YOU CAN PRINT OUT A LIST SAYING THAT DAVID SMITH WANTED TO REQUEST FOR EIGHT OR NINE COMPUTERS AT HIS CAUSE OF HIS BUDGET? >> YEAH. I CAN GRAB IT. >> THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD. >> NEXT ONE'S FOR YOU TOO. THEN IT'S PP. >> OKAY. >> WE'RE USING THAT LANGUAGE THAT I TRULY HATE SO MUCH AND I KNOW A NUMBER OF OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE DO. >> NOT TO EXCEED. >> NOT TO EXCEED. WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE IT 36,000 BECAUSE SHE SAID NOT TO EXCEED IT. >> LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON THAT. WHAT HAPPENS IS IN THIS PARTICULAR SOFTWARE PRODUCT, WE GET INVOICES THREE OR FOUR TIMES OUT OF THE YEAR. WE GET AN INVOICE FOR THE PRIMARY SOFTWARE SOLUTION, WHICH IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY WHICH I BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY ATTACHED TO THIS ONE FOR ABOUT $31,000. THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET ANOTHER INVOICE, WHICH COMES IN A DIFFERENT TIME OF THE YEAR FOR THE HOSTING OF THE WEBSITE. THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET ANOTHER INVOICE AT A DIFFERENT TIME. THIS ONE COVERS THE REASON FOR THE NOT TO EXCEED IS BECAUSE IT COVERS TWO THAT I DON'T HAVE INVOICES ON YET. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY REWARD THAT IN THE FUTURE TO SAY IT WILL BE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW. >> OKAY. >> I BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE CONTRACT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. >> YEAH. BUT I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE CERTAINLY DISCUSSED MULTIPLE TIMES I COUNT THEM. NEXT ONE WOULD BE 11 QQ. >> OKAY. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING MORE EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS DIFFERENT. >> CORRECT. >> THIS IS DOING ALL OUR SERVERS AND SO FORTH OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING? >> YEAH. WHAT THIS IS DOING AND WHAT THAT COUNCIL ACTION IS DOING IS IT'S REPLACING ALL OF OUR PRODUCTION DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT WITH NEWER, MODERN EQUIPMENT. THEN WHAT WE'LL DO WITH THAT EQUIPMENT THAT WE TAKE OUR PRODUCTION IS MOVE IT TO OUR DISASTER RECOVERY SITE. THE EQUIPMENT AT OUR DR SIDE, WHICH IS IN LAKE CITY, IS EIGHT-PLUS YEARS OLD AND WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN'T EVEN REALLY GET PARTS FOR AND THE FAILURE RATE GOES UP. THE OLDER IT GETS THE FAILURES GO UP OBVIOUSLY. [OVERLAPPING] THIS WILL REPLACE OUR PRIMARY DATA CENTER. IT'LL REPLACE ALL THE EQUIPMENT OVER THERE WILL STORE IT IN OUR COMPUTE POWER. THEN WE'LL TAKE THEM, WE'LL MOVE THAT OR RE-PURPOSE IT AND MOVE IT OUT TO THE SECONDARY CENTER AND SURPLUS THE REST OF IT. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING TO YOUR HAIR IT LOOKS GOOD. >> THANK YOU. >> WAS THAT ON THE AGENDA? >> [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] >> WE ARE NOT IN A BAR. >> NEXT ITEM IS 11 SS. IT'S A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH COMCAST NOT TO EXCEED $9,442. I JUST WONDER LIKE IS COMCAST OUR ONLY CHOICE THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. >> YES. >> AGAIN, WE HAVE THAT NOT-TO-EXCEED PHRASE. [02:25:01] >> OKAY. >> THAT'S TO ME [INAUDIBLE] THE CONTRACT OVER TO APPEAR OVER TWO YEARS. >> MY APOLOGIES, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. >> NO. THE OVERALL COST IS OVER TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE TWO-YEAR PERIOD. BASICALLY MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. [OVERLAPPING] MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 12, WHAT'S THAT? >> IS THAT MODERN MATHS? >> $84,000. >> 84. >> I THINK IT'S LESS THAN FIVE SOMEWHERE. WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND ASKED DIFFERENT COMPANIES. WE PROVIDED PROPOSALS FROM AT&T PS LIGHTWEIGHT AND LUMEN. THE PROBLEM THAT WE RUN INTO IS MANY OF THESE OTHER COMPANIES CAN'T OFFER SERVICE TO EVERY SINGLE SITE THAT WE NEED. WE'RE BACK WITH COMCAST AGAIN. >> THIS ISN'T EVEN REDEEMABLE NOW OFFERING INTERNET ON THE ISLAND. IT'S BECOMING A LITTLE MORE COMPETITIVE. >> IT IS. EVEN AT&T, WHICH WE THOUGHT WOULD BE COMPARABLE, I WILL TELL YOU THEIR COST WAS SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT COMCAST WAS. >> OKAY. >> YEAH. EVERY THREE YEARS WE TRY AND WE DID, WE WERE ABLE TO DROP THAT COST A LITTLE BIT BY ABOUT 24, $2,500 A MONTH FROM OUR LAST CONTRACT WITH COMCAST. >> BUT CAN WE JUST AT LEAST TAKE THAT NOT TO EXCEED DOWN I THINK. >> YES. MY APOLOGIES. I WILL DO BETTER ON THAT NEXT TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM, JUST QUICKLY COMMENT. BY USING THE NOT TO EXCEED LANGUAGE [INAUDIBLE] YOU SAY THIS IS THE COST NOW YOU GOT $400, YOU HAVE TO SPEND THEM AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'D GO TO THE VENDOR AND SAY, MY BOSS GAVE ME $9,400 WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR ME, YOU GO GET THESE BITS AND THEY SAY IT'S $9,400 TO THE CONTRACT. OUR LANGUAGE HERE IS NOT TO EXCEED THAT. WE KNOW WHAT THE LIMITATIONS WITH A CAP IS. >> I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES. WE HAVE SAID WE WANT THAT TO COMMAND OF THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT DOES TEND TO PUSH A COMPANY CHARGING MORE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN. I DISAGREE WITH HIM, BUT NOT THE FIRST TIME SO THERE YOU GO. NEXT IS 11 TT. >> WHERE WE GOT TT 1, 2, 3? >> 11 TT 4. [OVERLAPPING] >> LET ME SEE. >> THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE AMAZON AND THIS IS MORE OF A COMMENT THAN QUESTION 11 TT FOUR. >> I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION. >> COME ON. WE'RE PRETTY GOOD, SIR. [NOISE] I GET YOU ON CAMERA AGAIN. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW. [LAUGHTER] >> AMAZON. >> AMAZON? OKAY. >> THE CONTRACT WITH AMAZON SERVICES. I FEEL LIKE I BUY PROBABLY TOO MUCH FROM AMAZON AND WHAT I FOUND WHEN YOU PUT THINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEY TEND TO JACK UP THE PRICE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING CONSCIOUS OF THAT BECAUSE I'M SEEING SO ESPECIALLY BE HAPPENING WITH THE LAST FEW YEARS. >> NOW, WE USE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FORMS, SO IT'S NOT WE JUST FOCUSED ON AMAZON, IT'S AN OPTION. IT GIVES AN OPTION FOR OUR SO FOLKS WHO WOULD USE AMAZON TO HAVE BETTER RESULTS PURCHASING POWER. SOME THINGS WE CAN'T CONTROL THROUGH THE INTERNET AND SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT GET ASSOCIATED WITH THESE PROGRAMS, WE CAN'T CONTROL. WELL, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS WE TRIED TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OPTION. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS, IT'S A WAY OF DOING BUSINESS. CAN'T GET THROUGH THIS COMPANY THEY MAY BE GOING THROUGH AMAZON THE PART WE FOUND IN SOME CASES, IT CAN BE MORE CONVENIENT. >> MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE IT. ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ARE SIMILAR ON PURCHASING TODAY. BUT MOST OF THEM BECAUSE IT'S BIDDING AND SIT DOWN WE CAN GO THROUGH IT WITH YOU SO THAT WAY YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE, WE ONLY GET THREE QUOTES ON THIS STUFF SO IF AMAZON'S HIGH WE DON'T GET FROM AMAZON. >> MY POINT TODAY IS THERE SHOULD NEVER BE 54. >> WELL THEN THAT SUBJECT IS NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. >> THE OTHER THING I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND NOT TO EXCEED I THINK THERE'S SOME MISNOMER ABOUT THE USE OF THE TERMS. IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TERM AND THERE'S A GOOD TERM YOU CAN CHOOSE CORRECTLY. I THINK BEFORE YOU TRY TO ELIMINATE FROM OUR TERMINOLOGY AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE'RE GOING TO PIGEONHOLE US IN CERTAIN COUNTRIES, I THINK WHAT DO YOUR NEXT LAW IDEA THE FLOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN. >> PROVIDED THEY CAME UP WITH LEGAL WE WERE DOING LEGAL CONTRACTS AND WE'RE NOT TO EXCEED THAT KEPT RUNNING INTO IT. [02:30:03] BUT I AGREE AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SET UP TIME TO COME AND BE WITH YOU. >> YES. I BELIEVE WE HAD [INAUDIBLE]. [NOISE] >> THAT'S IT. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. >> NO, [NOISE] I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, SORRY. NOT FOR YOU. THIS IS 11YY. ON THE CORS OR WHATEVER, THESE HAVE TO DO WITH THE LETTERS THAT CAME IN REQUESTING THAT THE BRIDGE NOT BE LOWERED. ONE, I'M CURIOUS WHY LETTERS ARE UNDER CONSENT ITEMS, AND TWO, IF I NEEDED TO PULL THAT FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHEN IT'S JUST A LETTER. >> I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE WISER AND MORE CAUTIOUS WAY TO DO. THERE'S NO ACTION BEING TAKEN ON IT. IT'S SIMPLY A [OVERLAPPING] PERCEIVED FILE AND SHOULD PROBABLY BE MOVED UP TO [OVERLAPPING] ANOTHER PORTION OF THE AGENDA. [OVERLAPPING] >> JANELLE WILL DO THAT. >> WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. WE'LL MOVE THOSE OUT OF CONSENT. >> YEAH, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THOSE LETTERS READ INTO RECORD. >> OKAY. >> PERSONALLY. >> YEAH. >> YOU MEAN READ TO COUNCIL ALL THOSE LETTERS INTO RECORD? >> YEAH. >> SHE CAN JUST PLACE IT IN THE RECORD. >> YEAH, [NOISE] LET'S PLACE IT IN THE RECORD. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S ON THE AGENDA. THEY COULD SEE THEM. [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S UNDER CONSENT RIGHT NOW. >> WELL, [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE MOVING THAT. >> BUT IT'S ALSO IN THE PACKET. >> IT'S IN THE ALMOND PACKET. [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] >> YEAH, THEY COULD READ THOSE. >> ANYTHING ELSE, MARIE? >> NO. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STAFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE TODAY. >> I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT ONE I OVERLOOKED. [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN. [OVERLAPPING] >> NO, NOT FOR HIM. >> OKAY. GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> IT'S THE CHIEF. I BELIEVE IT'S THE CHIEF. >> CHIEF BALLI. >> CHIEF BALLI? >> YES, SIR. >> WHAT ITEM IS THIS, BILL? >> I BELIEVE IT'S 11FF. IT'S THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. >> OKAY. >> FOR THE TASK FORCE? >> EXCUSE ME. >> FOR THE TASK FORCE? [OVERLAPPING] >> YEAH. IF YOU CAN JUST FILL ME ON THE REPORT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. >> [NOISE] YES, SIR. WE'VE HAD AN OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THAT TASK FORCE FOR MANY YEARS. I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW MANY YEARS THAT THAT TASK FORCE HAS BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING. WHAT IT DOES IS IT GIVES US ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE TASK FORCE AS A WHOLE TO ASSIST US IN OUR OPERATIONS HERE ON THE ISLAND DEALING WITH STOLEN VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S A WORK FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR US FOR BIG EVENTS BECAUSE WE CAN COME IN AND THEY HELP US BY BRINGING IN LPRS ON THEIR VEHICLES, AND ESPECIALLY LIKE AN EVENT LIKE LONE STAR RALLY WHERE THEY'RE JUST GOING OUT AND THEY'RE PATROLLING, AND [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL TASK FORCES EVER THAT THE STATE [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU'RE WORKING WITH [INAUDIBLE] >> YES, SIR. THE COUNTY RUNS THE TASK FORCE, AND WE'D HAVE ONE OFFICER ASSIGNED TO IT. [OVERLAPPING] >> TOMMY HANSEN'S IS HEAD OF IT. >> WHO? >> TOMMY HANSEN. [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, GREAT, AND CONGRATULATIONS. >> [OVERLAPPING] CONGRATULATIONS. >> INTERIM CHIEF BALLI, COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE PUBLIC? YOU'RE ON CAMERA. [LAUGHTER]. >> YES, SIR. I SURELY CAN. MY NAME'S DOUG BALLI. I'M THE ASSISTANT CHIEF, AND AS OF TOMORROW AT 5:00 PM, I'LL BECOME THE INTERIM CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME. I'M FROM GALVESTON ON BOI. I LOVE THIS ISLAND. GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL HERE AT O'CONNELL IN 1990. BEEN WITH THE PD SINCE 1994, EXCEPT FOR A SMALL STINT OF ABOUT 11 MONTHS WHERE I THOUGHT THE GRASS WAS GREENER, AND I GOT BACK HERE AS FAST AS I POSSIBLY COULD. I LOVE THIS CITY, I LOVE THIS ISLAND. I LIVE DOWNTOWN, AND I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE IF ANYONE NEEDS ME. >> HE'S OUR TROLLEY SECURITY OFFICER. >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] >> WELL, YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP, I'M SURE, WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY, AND WITH CITY STAFF GOING TO ABOUT THE SAME AGE AND GOING TO SCHOOL, SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU. >> BECAUSE YOU GRADUATED FROM O'CONNELL, I WON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST YOU. [LAUGHTER] >> I APPRECIATE IT, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 3E, PLEASE, JANELLE. [3.E. Presentation Of Draft Of The Airport Master Plan (M. Shahan - 30 Min)] >> 3E, PRESENTATION OF DRAFT OF THE [NOISE] AIRPORT MASTER PLAN. >> MIKE, WE ACTUALLY GOT TO YOU HERE. [LAUGHTER] >> MIKE, WHY DON'T YOU FLY ON OVER HERE. [BACKGROUND] YOU CAN HAVE MY SEAT, HOW'S THAT SOUND? [BACKGROUND] [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] [02:35:05] >> IT WAS SOMETHING PRIVATE, OBVIOUSLY. >> YEAH. >> IT WAS BIG. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> YES, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'VE GOT CHANDRA BURKS AND ERIC PFEIFER HERE WITH COFFMAN ASSOCIATES. THEY'RE THE [NOISE] ONES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING OUR MASTER PLANS FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF NOW. THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION. [NOISE] >> WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE YOU, AND I HOPE IT WAS EDUCATIONAL SITTING THROUGH ALL THIS. >> IT WAS. I LEARNED A LOT TODAY. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> FEEL FREE TO HAVE A SEAT. >> OKAY. IS THIS SEAT OKAY? >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR YOUR AIRPORT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND SO WE'D LOVE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE. MY NAME IS ERIC PFEIFER, I'M WITH COFFMAN ASSOCIATES, AND ALSO WITH ME IS CHANDRA BURKS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS STUDY TOGETHER. [NOISE] IS SOMEONE RUNNING THAT? >> JUST TELL ME NEXT AND I'LL GO. >> YOU CAN GO AHEAD. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GIVE YOU A VERY HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE STUDY PROCESS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I'LL LET YOU GUYS ASK US QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG HERE. THE FAA AND TXDOT BASICALLY REQUIRES AIRPORTS WITHIN THEIR SYSTEM TO UPDATE THEIR PLANNING STUDIES EVERY 7-10 YEARS OR SO. THE LAST TIME YOU WENT THROUGH A MAJOR PLANNING STUDY UPDATE FOR YOUR AIRPORT WAS ACTUALLY BACK IN 2003. YOU GUYS WERE DUE FOR A NEW STUDY, AND THE FAA HAS UPDATED A LOT OF THEIR ADVISORY CIRCULARS AND PLANNING GUIDELINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT SINCE THAT LAST STUDY. A NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSES TO SOME OF THOSE NEW GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS. WE INITIATED THIS PROJECT IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR RIGHT WHEN COVID WAS HITTING THE HARDEST. THAT WAS AN INTERESTING ELEMENT OF THIS. BUT WE DID SET UP A PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT SERVED AS A SOUNDING BOARD FOR THIS STUDY. WE'RE BOUNCING DRAFT MATERIAL OFF OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND IN GETTING FEEDBACK AS WE WENT ALONG. WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING IN JULY OF LAST YEAR. THAT COMMITTEE WAS MADE UP OF 14 INDIVIDUALS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS AND TENANTS OF THE AIRPORT, AS WELL AS TXDOT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. THE PROCESS ITSELF IS BROKEN OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT PHASES. THAT'S AGAIN, TO PROVIDE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET WITH OUR COMMITTEE, PUT DRAFT MATERIALS OUT IN FRONT OF THAT GROUP AS WELL AS MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. AT EACH POINT IN THIS PROCESS, YOU SEE WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS AS WELL AS SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH. THAT FIRST PUBLIC INFORMATION WORKSHOP WE ACTUALLY HELD VIA ZOOM BECAUSE OF PANDEMIC. THE SECOND, IN THE PHASE 2, THE SECOND WORKSHOP AND PLANNING ADVISOR COMMITTEE MEETING NUMBER 3, WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO DO IN-PERSON WHICH WAS FANTASTIC. WE DID IT OUT OF THE AIRPORT AND HAS SOME GOOD INVOLVEMENT THERE AS WELL. EACH, ELEMENTS OF THE PLANNING STUDY IS CONDUCTED IN THIS LINEAR FORMAT. WHAT WE'VE DONE NOW AT THIS POINT IS WE'VE REACHED THE END OF THE TWO PHASED APPROACH HERE AND WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT FINAL PLAN. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE IS OBVIOUSLY PRESENT THE FINDINGS TO YOU TODAY. THEN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDE WHETHER TO ADOPT THIS MASTER PLAN OR NOT. ASSUMING YOU DO ADOPT THE MASTER PLAN, WE WILL THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH SUBMITTING THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN DRAWING SET TO TEXTILE AND TO THE FA. THAT ALP DRAWING SET IS WHAT REFLECTS THE FUTURE PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT IDEAS FOR THE AIRPORT. THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO SEEK GRANT FUNDING FOR THOSE PROJECTS. AS LONG AS THOSE PROJECTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, IT CAN BE FUNDED UP TO 90 PERCENT USING FEDERAL GRANTS. THAT'S WHY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROCESS TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE IT REALLY GIVES YOU ACCESS TO SOME LARGE GRANT AMOUNTS. GO AHEAD. >> JUMPING INTO ONE OF THE BIGGEST ELEMENTS OF THIS STUDY IS THE FORECAST. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT TWO MAJOR PARTS OF THIS. WE'RE FORECASTING BASED AIRCRAFT AND ANNUAL OPERATIONS OF THE AIRPORT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. WE USE A RANGE OF FORECASTING METHODOLOGIES TO CREATE, WHAT WE CALL A PLANNING ENVELOPE. THEN WE PICK WHAT WE THINK IS THE MOST REASONABLE BASED ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE INDUSTRY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE AT GALVESTON. [02:40:03] CURRENTLY, IN TERMS OF BASED AIRCRAFT, YOU-ALL HAVE 131 AIRCRAFT BASED AT THE AIRPORT NOW. WE PROJECT THAT GROWING TO ABOUT 160 OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. IN TERMS OF ANNUAL OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW YOU'RE JUST OVER 29,000. WE ALSO SEE GROWTH IN THAT OCCURRING OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, UP TO NEARLY 41,000 OPERATIONS. NEXT THING PLEASE. THE OTHER ELEMENT OF THE FORECASTS AND EFFORT IS THE AIRPORT RUNWAY CLASSIFICATIONS. THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THESE ALIGN WITH FA DESIGN STANDARDS AND THEY TELL US WHAT FACILITIES YOU-ALL NEEDED THE AIRPORT AND WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WHAT'S MODIFICATIONS NEED TO OCCUR TO MEET THAT. IN TERMS OF THE AIRPORT REFERENCE CODE, WE ANTICIPATE THAT STAYING THE SAME, THE EXISTING AND ULTIMATE CONDITION. FOR RUNWAY 1432, IT'S A C/D-II CLASSIFICATION. FROM 1836, IT'S A B-II. THE AIRPORT CRITICAL DESIGN AIRCRAFT IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF THIS. THAT'S REPRESENTED BY A LEARJET 35/36 FOR THE PRIMARY RUNWAY AND THE CITATION SOVEREIGN FOR THE SECONDARY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> FROM AN AIRFIELD PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE A TWO RUNWAY SYSTEM, BOTH AT 6,000 FEET LONG AND 150 FEET WIDE. OUR FACILITY REQUIREMENTS EVALUATION LOOKED AT A WIDE VARIETY OF AIRCRAFT THAT ARE USING THE AIRPORT NOW, AS WELL AS THOSE THAT WE ANTICIPATE USING THE AIRPORT ON A MORE FREQUENT BASIS IN THE FUTURE AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING. WIDE VARIETY OF BUSINESS JETS AND EVEN SOME SMALLER REGIONAL JET AND NARROW BODY COMMERCIAL SERVICE TYPES OF AIRCRAFT. BOTH RUNWAYS RIGHT NOW AT 6,000 FEET ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF ACCOMMODATING THAT SPREAD OF AIRCRAFT FLEET. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO MAINTAIN BOTH YOUR RUNWAYS AT THEIR CURRENT LENGTH. THE WIDTH OF BOTH RUNWAYS IS AN INTERESTING ISSUE. DESIGN STANDARDS FOR BOTH. WELL, FOR 1432 WOULD CALL FOR A RUNWAY WIDTH OF 100 FEET AND FOR 1836, A WIDTH OF 75 FEET BASED UPON THE CRITICAL AIRCRAFT THAT USE THOSE. WE'RE NOT SHOWING A REDUCTION IN THE WIDTHS OF THOSE RUNWAYS. BUT WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO, IF YOU HAVE A MAJOR REHAB PROJECT OR RECONSTRUCT OF EITHER RUNWAY, YOU MIGHT RUN INTO AN ISSUE WITH TEXTILE AND THE FA ONLY WANTING TO FUND UP TO THOSE WIDTHS THAT MEET THE DESIGN STANDARD. IF YOU WANT TO MEET AND MAINTAIN THAT FULL 150 FOOT WIDTH, YOU MAY HAVE TO PUT FORTH MORE LOCAL FUNDS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SIMILARLY, ON YOUR TAX WAY SYSTEM HERE, MUCH OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE SHOWING ARE RELATED TO TAX AWAY DESIGN. I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT THE FA HAS UPDATED THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS SINCE THE LAST STUDY YOU WENT THROUGH AND A LARGE FOCUS OF THAT UPDATE WAS ON TEXTS WAY DESIGN. WHAT THE FA WANTS TO DO IS TRY AND CUT DOWN ON SITUATIONS WHERE AIRCRAFT MIGHT ACCIDENTALLY TAXI ONTO A RUNWAY WITHOUT BEING AWARE OF THEIR SITUATION AND CAUSING WHAT'S CALLED THE RUNWAY INCURSION. YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE AREAS ON HERE WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING NO TAXI ISLANDS OR REDESIGNING HOW THE TAXI WAYS ARE CONNECTING TO THE ENDS OF THE RUNWAY IS BECAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO CREATE 90 DEGREE CONNECTIONS TO THE ENDS OF THE RUNWAY, SO THAT PILOTS HAVE A BETTER VISIBILITY OF THE AIRFIELD IN THE AIRSPACE COMING INTO THAT RUNWAY. THE NO TAXI ISLANDS ESSENTIALLY FORCE PILOTS TO MAKE TURNS BEFORE THEY GET ONTO THE RUNWAY, SO THAT THEY'RE MORE AWARE OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS. ON YOUR PRIMER RUNWAY 1432, THE FAR LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN THERE YOU SEE A SMALL RECTANGLE THAT'S SHADED IN BLUE. THAT'S PART OF YOUR RUNWAY SAFETY AREA. THAT RUNWAY SAFETY AREA ASCENDS ABOUT 1000 FEET OFF OF THE END OF THE RUNWAY. BY DESIGN, THOSE AREAS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FILLED AND GRADED AND CAPABLE OF ACCOMMODATING AN AIRCRAFT AND AN UNDERSHOOT OR AN OVERRUN SITUATION AND AS WELL AS EMERGENCY SERVICE VEHICLES, THAT PORTION OF THE RSA PARTIALLY EXTENDS OUT INTO THE BILE. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE STUDY IS TO ACTUALLY FILL AND GRADE THAT AREA. PRIOR TO THE BULK OF THESE MAJOR AIRFIELD DESIGN PROJECTS, YOU WILL NEED TO GO THROUGH A SEPARATE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY. CERTAINLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FILLING, PUTTING FILL INTO A BODY OF WATER SUCH AS THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SEPARATE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY YOU GO THROUGH TO EVALUATE THAT. BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS STUDY IS ADDRESSING THAT RSA ISSUE. NEXT SLIDE. >> IN TERMS OF THE LANDSLIDE DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS GOING TO [02:45:03] BE TERMINAL HANGERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE DO SHOW PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING ON THE NORTH SIDE, WE'RE SHOWING A BRAND NEW T HANGER COMPLEX. [NOISE] THEY'RE COMING UP AT THE NORTH APRON WITH EIGHT UNIT HANGERS PICTURE. WE ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL T HANGERS PLAN FOR THE NORTH APRON. THEN WE HAVE SOME EXECUTIVE BOX HANGERS PLAN FOR A NEW APRON THAT'S FRONTING TERMINAL DRIVE. YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE ON HERE THAT WE HAVE OPTIONS FOR CUSTOMS FACILITY. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP TOWARD THE END OF THIS PROJECT. WE WANTED TO EVALUATE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AREAS. YOU'LL SEE IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW PASSENGER TERMINAL. INITIALLY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT INCLUDING THE CUSTOMS FACILITY THERE BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO PICTURE SOMETHING ON THE JA SIDE BASED ON WHAT YOU-ALL HAD TALKED ABOUT. WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS INCLUDING THE EXISTING TERMINAL BUILDING, THE SULLIVAN HANGER AND THEN ALSO A BRAND NEW BUILDING THAT FRONTS THE APRON RIGHT THERE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OVER ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL HANGERS PLANNED, FOR THE CORPORATE APRON THERE WE HAVE MORE BOX HANGERS THAT ARE PLANNED AS WELL AS FOR THE SOUTH RAMP AREA. WE'VE GOT A FEW MORE BOX HANGERS AND A T HANGER THERE IN THE CENTER. WHAT YOU SEE IN THE LIGHT GREEN SHADING IS PROPERTY THAT'S BEING RESERVED FOR NOT AVIATION DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S JUST PROPERTY THAT WE'RE SETTING ASIDE AS A POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCE IN THE FUTURE FOR NON AERONAUTICAL USE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THEN I MENTIONED THE NEW PASSENGER TERMINAL. THIS IS SIMPLY A CONCEPT AT THIS POINT BUT THIS IS OVER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE FIELD WHERE THE DRIVING RANGE IS. IN THE EVENT THAT COMMERCIAL SERVICE DOES MATERIALIZE HERE IN GALVESTON, THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR A TERMINAL BUILDING. WE'RE EARMARKING THAT SPOT FOR THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> [NOISE] I MENTIONED ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES. WE DID DO A VERY HIGH LEVEL ENVIRONMENTAL OVERVIEW AS PART OF THIS MASTER PLAN. CERTAINLY A PART OF THAT WAS EVALUATING THE AIRPORTS EXISTING AND FUTURE NOISE FOOTPRINT. WE USE THE FA'S NOISE MODELING TOOL. IT'S CALLED THE ADT TOOL TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. BASICALLY THE INPUTS THAT GO INTO THAT ARE THE CURRENT FLEET MIX OF AIRCRAFT USING THE AIRPORT AS WELL AS TIME-OF-DAY OPERATIONS, AS WELL AS RUNWAY USAGE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS YOUR EXISTING NOISE EXPOSURE CONTOUR, RANGING FROM A 65 TO A 75 DNL DAY-NIGHT LEVEL CONTOUR. THE 65 CONTOUR WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE OUTERMOST PORTION, THE LIGHTER BLUE, IS THE CRITICAL THRESHOLD THAT THE FA USES TO IDENTIFY IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AS A RESULT OF NOISE. OUR CONCERN HERE WOULD BE IF AT 65 DNL CONTOUR WOULD BE EXTENDING OFF AIRPORT PROPERTY AND ENCOMPASSING NOISE SENSITIVE RECEPTORS SUCH AS RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT SITUATION. YOU'RE 65 CONTOURS CONTAINED ENTIRELY ON AIRPORT PROPERTY AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED NO NOISE SENSITIVE RECEPTORS WITHIN IT. GO TO NEXT SLIDE. THIS SHOWS YOU THE FUTURE 2040 CONTOUR. THIS ACCOUNTS FOR THE GROWTH AND BASED AIRCRAFT IN OPERATIONS AND TRANSITION OF FLEET MIX TO INCLUDE MORE, LARGER, HEAVIER BUSINESS JET AIRCRAFT. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE CONTOURS DON'T CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY. A LOT OF THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT NEWER GENERATION AIRCRAFT ARE MUCH QUIETER THAN THE OLDER GENERATION OF AIRCRAFT. THE ANTICIPATION HERE, AS WE'RE SHOWING YOU IS THAT YOUR NOISE FOOTPRINT SHOULD REMAIN ON AIRPORT PROPERTY AND SHOULD BE A NON-ISSUE IN TERMS OF WHETHER THEIR 65 CONTOURS IS COVERING UP ANY NOISE SENSITIVE RECEPTORS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> THE FINAL PIECE OF THIS IS PULLING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND PUTTING IT INTO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR CIP. WHAT WE DO WITH THIS IS WE BREAK IT OUT INTO THREE TERMS, THE SHORT, THE INTERMEDIATE AND THE LONG-TERM. WE PHASE THESE PROJECTS OUT IN TERMS OF PRIORITY FOR THE AIRPORT WITH THE FAA, I WOULD SAY IS A BIG PRIORITY OR TXDOT. THEN WE ASSIGN COST TO EACH OF THESE. WE DID HAVE ENGINEERING SUPPORT WITH DEVELOPING THOSE COSTS. BUT IN TERMS OF THE SHORT-TERM, WE'VE GOT 14 PROJECTS HERE. THE BULK OF THE PROJECTS ARE THE TAXIWAY MODIFICATIONS TO MEET THE FAA DESIGN STANDARDS. WE ALSO SHOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE DISCUSSED IT EARLIER, BUT AN ALTERNATE TURF LANDING AREA WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WAS DESIRED ON THE FIELD. IN TERMS OF TOTAL COSTS FOR THE SHORT-TERM, [02:50:01] WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $19.7 MILLION. OF THAT, ABOUT 16.1 MILLION COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDING, WITH REMAINING 3.6 BEING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF LOCAL FUNDING MECHANISMS. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] FOR THE INTERMEDIATE TERM, WE HAVE A FEW MORE PROJECTS HERE. WE'RE LOOKING AT HOLDING BAYS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE FIELD, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXPANSION OF THE NORTH APRON, SO SOME OTHER LANDSIDE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS THERE. BUT IN TOTAL WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT, I CAN'T QUITE READ THAT, I THINK IT SAYS 15.9. [OVERLAPPING] YEAH, ABOUT $16 MILLION WITH AGAIN, ABOUT 14.3 ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THEN FOR THE LAST ELEMENT OF THIS LONG-TERM DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS HERE. WE ARE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW TERMINAL. WE HAVE EXCLUDED THAT COST FROM THE TOTAL HERE. IT WOULD BE ABOUT $38 MILLION OR SO, BUT A VARIETY OF FUNDING SOURCES WOULD BE EVALUATED IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THAT. EXCLUDING THAT COST AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $6.7 MILLION OR SO WITH ABOUT 670,000 A LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY. IN TOTAL, EXCLUDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TERMINAL, THE TOTAL CIP OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS IS ABOUT 42.3 MILLION, WITH ABOUT 5.8 MILLION OF THAT A LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. [NOISE] >> BASICALLY, THE NEXT STEPS HERE ARE, AND I THINK I'M PROBABLY JUST GOING TO PUT ONE. YEAH, I THINK EACH ONE OF THESE IS GOING TO BE INCORRECT, I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S FINE. >> THE NEXT STEPS HERE, AND I ALREADY OUTLINED THIS IS WE'LL RECEIVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS ON THE STUDY. I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED AT LEAST A HARD COPY. IF NOT, THERE'S DIGITAL COPIES OF THIS FULL REPORT ON A DEDICATED PROJECT STUDY WEBSITE THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER. [NOISE] WE SEEK YOUR FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS. IF IT MEETS WITH YOUR APPROVAL, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH SUBMITTING THE ALP DRAWING SET, WHICH IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE STUDY IN THE BACK HERE TO TXDOT AND THE FAA JUST TO BEGIN THAT REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS WHICH WE WOULD ANTICIPATE. IT'S [NOISE] A TOSS-UP, BUT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE AT LEAST A THREE-MONTH PROCESS FOR GETTING TXDOT AND FAA APPROVAL ON ALP DRAWING SET. AT THAT POINT, WE WILL PREPARE ALL OF OUR FINAL DELIVERABLES. THEN IT'LL BE UP TO THE CITY TO BEGIN EXECUTING THE PLAN. WE TALK ABOUT THE CIP, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL NEED TO BE REVISITED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. LOOK AT THE CIP IN THIS STUDY IS A MENU OF OPTIONS. IT'S MEANT TO BE DEMAND-BASED. WE DON'T INTEND FOR YOU TO SEEK DOING PROJECTS [NOISE] JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A LIST. IT'S MEANT TO BE EVALUATED BASED UPON WHAT DEMAND YOU'RE SEEING AT THE AIRPORT. >> IT'S A GOOD POINT. >> SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE CERTAINLY RELATED TO MEETING FAA DESIGN STANDARDS AND THOSE THINGS ARE PROJECTS YOU MAY SEEK TO DO SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THE FAA AND TXDOT MAY WANT YOU TO DO THOSE PROJECTS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AND MAYBE NOT SO MUCH TYPE TO DEMAND. BUT CERTAINLY [NOISE] TALKING ABOUT BUILDING HANGERS OR BUILDING THE CUSTOMER'S FACILITY OR A NEW PASSENGER TERMINAL FACILITY, ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO BE TIED TO WHAT DEMAND WE'RE SEEING. WE HAVE THE PASSENGER TERMINAL FACILITY IN THE LONG-TERM BASED UPON THE DEMAND THAT THE CRUISE LINES ARE TALKING ABOUT, THAT MAY NEED TO BE MOVED UP. IT'LL BE INCUMBENT ON YOU TO REVISIT THIS MENU OF OPTIONS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND RE-EVALUATE WHERE YOU'RE AT, AND DECIDE WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE ON THAT BASIS. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A 20-YEAR PLANNING STUDY, BUT YOU'RE REALLY SUPPOSED TO GO BACK AND UPDATE IT EVERY 7-10 YEARS OR SO TO MAKE SURE IT'S CURRENT AND REFLECTIVE OF EXISTING CONDITIONS. WE WOULD CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE DOING THAT AGAIN IN THE COMING YEARS. IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, THAT THE FAA REQUIRES THAT YOU DO EVERY SO OFTEN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [OVERLAPPING] VERY WELL DONE. COUNCIL, IF YOU HAD THE TIME TO READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENT OR THE ELECTRONIC VERSION, WELL DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. WHILE WE'RE HERE, MIKE, GUIDE US ON THIS. YOU'LL HAVE THIS ON OUR AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER FOR APPROVAL. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE WANTED TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, [02:55:01] WHICH IS IN DECEMBER. [OVERLAPPING] I'M GOING TO TRY TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU EITHER DECEMBER, JANUARY AT THE VERY LATEST, [OVERLAPPING] DEPENDING ON WHEN THE MEETING DATES ARE. >> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES THIS MIKE, WE HAVE A LOT OF MASTER PLAN SITTING ON A SHELF SOMEWHERE. WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON BEING PROACTIVE AND MOVING THIS PLAN FORWARD. >> WELL, THIS IS PROBABLY MY THIRD MASTER PLAN OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. I PRETTY MUCH FOLLOW THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, ESPECIALLY ON THE ONE THROUGH FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE GET OUR FUNDING, THROUGH TXDOT. >> RIGHT. >> SOME OF THE TAXI WAYS AND SOME OF THOSE ITEMS, WE WOULD CERTAINLY SUBMIT A LETTER OF INTEREST THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT STARTED. >> SOUNDS GOOD. EXCUSE ME, DAVID, ONE LAST QUESTION. THE GRANTS, I KNOW A LOT OF THIS REVOLVES AROUND GRANTS. WHO ASSISTS YOU WITH THAT? HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? >> USUALLY, OUR ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WE HAVE AT THE TIME, THEY WORK WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO GET THE COST ASSESSMENTS, BUT THEN WE USE VARIOUS ENGINEERING FIRMS TO HELP US TO UPDATE AND TO MAKE SURE IT'S MORE ACCURATE. BUT NOW WE'RE USING KSA ENGINEERS. I KNOW THE UPCOMING PROJECT IT'S IN HERE, THE RUNWAY 1836, IT'S GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO BID. THEN THE SOUTH RAMP AND APRON, IT'S ALSO KSA IS WORKING ON THAT ENGINEERING. IT'LL GO OUT TO BID PROBABLY ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, MAYBE A LITTLE SOONER. THOSE TWO PROJECTS ARE ALREADY IN LINE. THEN THEY'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH ME, GETTING THE LETTER OF INTEREST TO GO AHEAD AND REDO SOME OF THE TAXIWAYS THAT THOSE JOINT SEALS THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF ONE OF OUR PROJECTS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE BACK IN PLACE. WE'RE WORKING ON PROBABLY THE NEXT THREE YEARS RIGHT NOW, AND THEN OTHERS ARE COMING JUST RIGHT OUT OF THAT. >> SOUNDS GREAT. DAVID? >> VERY QUICKLY, MIKE. >> GO AHEAD. >> WHERE DO WE STAND ON MAINTAINING THE AIRPORT RUNWAY WIDTHS? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE BECAUSE THAT CAN BE A MAJOR EXPANSION OPPORTUNITY. >> WELL, WE'VE JUST REHAB'D 1432, AND IT'S A FULL 150 FOOT WIDTH. TXDOT ON 1836 WANTED TO REDUCE IT TO 75 FEET. WE TALKED TO THEM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE STICKING WITH 150. THEY WILL ONLY COVER A CERTAIN PERCENT, WHICH RIGHT NOW ON THE COST ASSESSMENT SHOULD BE THE FULL WIDTH. BUT THE ESTIMATES COME IN MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT KSA IS THINKING, WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK AND WE'LL HAVE TO CREATE SOME MORE [INAUDIBLE]. >> I THINK, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ALL WANT TO SEE THOSE MAINTAINED. IT'S A GREAT EXPANSION OPPORTUNITY. >> WE HAVE TO REALLY, FOR THE C17'S AND THE LARGER AIRCRAFT FOR STORM EVENTS, WE NEED TO KEEP THE WIDTH. THAT'S WHY I THINK TXDOT KEPT IT IN THERE. >> COULD WE TALK THEM INTO FLYING ONE IN HERE ON A REGULAR BASIS? >> WELL, JUST KEEP IN MIND [INAUDIBLE] IS THE ONE WHO LANDS THOSE HERE. >> WHAT'S THAT? >> IT'S THE STATE THAT LANDS THOSE BIG PLANES HERE. [INAUDIBLE] DOES. THEY KNOW. >> YEAH. COOL. >> TRUST ME, WE WILL MONITOR. >> YEAH, GOOD ANSWER. >> PLUS THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THAT WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MAKING IT SHORTER, THEY WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT MOVING THE LIGHTS OR ANYTHING, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A HUGE ISSUE. >> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTION? JOHN? >> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A MASTER PLAN LIKE THIS IN A BUSINESS PLAN, AND YOU LOOK AT THE CAPABILITIES, THEY ARE POOR AND THEN YOU LOOK AT FUTURE HANGERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEN THE FORECAST OF CHANGES THE BASE AIRPLANES HERE AT THE BILL. IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS FROM 2020 TO 2040, WE GO FROM 131 BASE AIRCRAFT TO 160, BUT WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF MAYBE 200 HANGER UNITS OUT THERE, MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE SHOW HERE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. SINCE THIS IS AIRPORT THAT IS SELF-SUFFICIENT, NO REAL TAX DOLLARS GO TO THIS AIRPORT THEY GOT TO MAKE THEIR OWN MONEY TO SUPPORT THIS AND TO SUPPORT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THE WAY YOU DO THAT IS YOU GET MORE BUSINESS OUT THERE, YOU GENERATE MORE REVENUE. HOW CAN WE OPTIMIZE OUR SPACE OUT THERE, GET MORE PEOPLE IN THOSE HANGERS AND BUILD MORE HANGERS OUT THERE SO WE CAN JUST GENERATE MORE BUSINESS OUT THERE? I MEAN, IF WE'RE ONLY EXPECTING 30 MORE PLANES ON THE FIELD IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS THAT'S NOT A LOT OF GROWTH. >> WELL, PART OF THAT THOUGH IS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT AND THE FLEET. HISTORICALLY, THE BULK OF THE GENERAL AVIATION FLEET, AND IT'S STILL MADE UP LARGELY OF SMALL SINGLE ENGINE PISTON TYPE OF AIRCRAFT. THOSE ARE NOT HUGE MONEYMAKERS FOR AIRPORTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T TAKE A LOT OF FUEL AND A LOT OF THE OTHER ANCILLARY FEES YOU COULD CHARGE. [03:00:04] IT'S JUST NOT AS MUCH TO MAINTAIN THOSE AIRCRAFT. THE FLEET IS TRANSITIONING RIGHT NOW, THE GENERATION FLEET. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE LARGER, MORE SOPHISTICATED AIRCRAFT, BUSINESS JETS, TOTAL PROPS, HELICOPTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WHEN SEE GROWTH MORE OPERATIONS IN BASED AIRPLANES, THOSE ARE THE AIRCRAFTS WE THINK THAT ARE GOING TO START TRANSITIONING TO. THEY ARE GOING TO BE GENERATING MORE REVENUE FOR THE AIRPORT IN FUEL FLOW-AGE. MAINTAINING THOSE AIRCRAFTS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, YOU CAN GENERATE MORE REVENUE BASED ON FROM THOSE TYPES OF OPERATIONS. WHAT THE AIRPORT CAN DO. WHAT MOST AIRPORTS TRY TO DO THIS IS TO DEVELOP DEMAND, BUT ALSO MEET WHAT DEMAND IS THERE. EVALUATE YOUR HANGAR, WAITING LISTS, SET UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE UTILITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN OR WANTS TO BUILD A NEW HANGAR COMPLEX, OR LIKE CHANDRA MENTIONED, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ACRES OF YOUR PROPERTY IS ALREADY SET ASIDE FOR NON-AVIATION TYPES OF REVENUE, PRETTY GARDENS, [INAUDIBLE], I MEAN THERE IS HUGE BENEFIT TO YOUR AIRPORT. MOST AIRPORTS DON'T HAVE THAT REVENUE STREAM. BUT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE SET UP TO ACCOMMODATE THAT DEVELOPMENT IF THEY WANT TO COME TO YOUR AIRPORT. WE'VE SEEN IN RECENT YEARS, WELL, JUST THE LAST YEAR OR SO REALLY, A LOT OF STARTUP AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURING GOING WITH THE ELECTRIC AIRCRAFT, ELECTRIC VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING TYPES OF AIRCRAFT. WE'VE SEEN DEMAND FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN DIFFERENT AREAS. AGAIN, THE BEST THING THAT THE AIRPORT CAN DO IS SET THEMSELVES UP TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT DEVELOPER IF THEY WANT TO COME IN. THEN BEYOND THAT, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT MARKETING AND ADVERTISING, WHATEVER, THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR AREA OF EXPERTISE, BUT OUR FOCUS IS TO MAKE SURE THE FACILITY IS THERE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE ACTIVITIES IF THE DEMAND DOES MATERIALIZE. >> ALSO BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, AIRCRAFT PRICE USUALLY INCREASE MORE THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BASED ON THAT. YES, I CHECKED, WE'VE GOT A 139 BASED AIRCRAFT AND OUR OPERATION FOR 2021 WAS AMONG THE 630, 3,000 OPERATIONS. IT'S THE HIGHEST SINCE 2008 OPERATIONAL-WISE. WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD TOWARDS THE PROJECTIONS ARE AND THOSE ARE BASED ON NATIONWIDE PROJECTIONS. WE'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT FASTER CURRENTLY. >> IT'S WAY BUSIER THAN MOST PEOPLE THINK. >> BELIEVE ME I KNOW. I AGREE THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE LOW. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US PUT SOME PLANS IN PLACE TO MAKE SOME OF THIS STUFF HAPPEN. WE APPROVED HANGERS TO BE BUILT OUT THERE FOUR PLUS YEARS AGO AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE HANGERS OUT THERE AND WE NEED THAT STAFF. YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB ON THIS. THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION. I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE FROM STAFF ON HOW WE MAKE THAT STUFF HAPPEN, HOW WE GET MORE PRIVATE INTERESTS OUT THERE TO DEVELOP HANGER COMPLEXES. AS AIRPORTS ARE CLOSING ALL AROUND US, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN SOME OF THAT BUSINESS, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO HOUSE AND SO WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR SPEED OF GETTING THAT STUFF ACTUALLY ON GROUND OUT THERE. >> YEAH, AND WE HAVE ABOUT 17 PEOPLE ON OUR WAITING LIST RIGHT NOW FOR VARIOUS SIZE HANGERS. >> THOSE PEOPLE WOULD ALREADY BE PAID AS MONEY IF WE HAD THE HANGERS IN PLACE. >> ON THE HANGER PROJECT, BY THE TIME WE GOT IT APPROVED, BEFORE WE FORGET THE CONTRACT, AND PRICE OF STILL WENT UP, I THINK IT WAS $75,000 WHICH WAS MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD. THAT'S WHY I CAN'T STOP THAT PROJECT. >> THE AIRPORT RATES AREN'T NECESSARILY KEEPING UP WITH THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION EITHER. >> YEAH, WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR MARIA. I JUST WANT TO JUMP BACK IN ONE THING. I SAW YOUR LONG-TERM FORECASTS YOU HAVE FOR THE PASSENGER TERMINAL DOWN THERE. I'M GETTING CALLS FROM THE CRUISE LINES HERE IN THE CITY ABOUT EXPLORING THE IDEAS OF COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT IN HERE FOR THE CRUISES. CAN WE HANDLE THAT NOW IF THEY COME IN I ASSUME WITHOUT THIS PASSENGER TERMINAL IN ALL OF THEM? >> IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF OPERATION THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING. IF THEY WERE WANTING TO DO AN UNSCHEDULED CHARTER OPERATION WITH 737, YES, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY HANDLE THAT ACTIVITY. IF THEY WANTED TO START TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO ESTABLISH SOME SCHEDULED SERVICE, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. THEN IS WHEN YOU WOULD NEED TO START LOOKING AT MEETING WHAT'S CALLED PART 139 REQUIREMENTS AND BECOMING AN AIRPORT OR CERTIFICATED AIRPORT TO HANDLE THAT ACTIVITY. [03:05:04] THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME SECURITY UPGRADES, CERTAINLY HAVING TSA ON-SITE AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. [OVERLAPPING] YEAH, ALL THE STAFFING AND PART OF THAT TOO IS CERTAINLY HAVING AN OPERATOR WILLING TO COME IN AND DO IT. YOU GUYS ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE MAJOR HUB AIRPORTS IN HOUSTON. IT WOULD BECOME A MATTER OF, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME AIRLINE WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO EITHER SPLIT SERVICE AND ADD TO GALVESTON AND MAINTAIN WHERE THEY'RE AT INTERCONTINENTAL, OR AT HOBBY, OR IS THERE A SMALL OPERATOR WILLING TO COME IN THAT MIGHT NOT ALREADY BE SERVING? THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT. THEY'RE VERY WELL, MAYBE DEMANDS FROM THE CRUISE LINES, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT DEMAND COULD BE MET BY THE EXISTING AIRPORTS IN HOUSTON. A BUNCH OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER THAT WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS IN HERE, BUT YEAH. IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS, [NOISE] YOUR AIR-FIELD WOULD CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE TYPES OF AIRCRAFT THAT THEY WOULD USE. YOU WOULD JUST NEED TO DEVELOP A TERMINAL FACILITY TO HANDLE THIS SCHEDULE TYPE OF OPERATIONS. >> YOU'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM. I GOT REFER THEM ON TO YOU WHEN THEY CONTACT ME SO [OVERLAPPING] >> WE TALKED ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WITH SEVERAL ENGINEERING FIRMS AND EVEN CUFFMAN, BUT THEY'RE USED TO DOING THE FULL-BLOWN ARROW SERVICE STUDY. WE'RE LOOKING AT A CAUSE EXCEEDING $200,000. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TAKE A SMALL STEP FOR US JUST TO SEE WHAT INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING FROM THE CRUISE PORT AND THE CRUISE COMPANIES IF THAT ACTUALLY SEEMS FEASIBLE. I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A TROUBLE TRYING TO GET THAT TRANSITION INTO A FEASIBILITY STUDY FROM SOMEBODY. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT PART. >> YOU HAVE TO DO A VERY [OVERLAPPING] GOOD WORK, FEASIBILITY STUDY. >> MY QUESTION WAS ALONG THE SAME LINES AS YOURS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FORECASTS NUMBERS, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT HAS A DOUBLE COMMERCIAL. WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD FROM MEXICAN AIRLINE. WE KNEW THAT YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH THE CRUISE SHIPS AND HOW THEY'RE EVEN WILLING TO INVEST MONEY INTO IT. WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MOVING SOONER THAN LATER. >> ALL THESE FORECASTS IN MY VIEW ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE IF WE GET COMMERCIAL SERVICE AND OR JUST ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT. ESPECIALLY CONSERVATIVE. >>JOHN. >> WE HAVE HAD A SHORTER FLIGHT LAND HERE THAT JSX IS A CHARTER COMPANY THAT OPERATES LIKE AN AIRLINE. THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED. WE'VE TALKED TO THEM, WE'RE HOPING THEY'LL BE HERE AT THE ECONOMIC SUMMIT IN DECEMBER AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT GALVESTON, THEY ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH GALVESTON. THEY'RE VERY INTERESTING FOR EACH SUPPORT OPENS UP THE HOME TO PROVIDE SOME SERVICE. >> THEY'RE DOING INTERESTING THINGS WITH CATERING TO CERTAIN MARKETS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE A FLIGHT DOWN THE HOBBY THAT GOES TO A HOTEL THAT'S FOUND OUT BY MARSHA AND WHATNOT. THAT SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE WE SHOULD REALLY BE EXPLORING. >> THEY JUST PICKED UP AUSTIN, RALPH ELLISON, AND NOW DOWNSTREAM SOMEPLACE IN FLORIDA. IT'S AN UP AND COMING AIR CHARTER AIRLINE. >> [OVERLAPPING] THEY'RE CHOOSING SMALL AREAS BECAUSE THE ONE IS LIKE THEY'RE GOING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN [INAUDIBLE] AND THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY HAVE A SOUL FLIGHT THERE ARE CONTRACTING WITH THE HOTEL, THEY DO IT. WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. >> YES, JOE. >> ONE LAST THING. THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CUSTOMS. WE HAVE A CRUISE TERMINAL THAT'LL BE OPENED IN TWO YEARS, FULLY STAFFED CUSTOMS OFFICE HERE IN TOWN, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW AND SO WE NEED TO BE PREPARED COMING TWO YEARS FROM NOW TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS HERE, CLEAR CUSTOMS HERE AT THE AIRPORT. I DON'T WANT TO WAIT TWO YEARS AND SAY, NOW WE HAVE THIS ABILITY TO DO THIS. LET'S SEE WHAT IT WILL TAKE. I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY PARAGRAPH [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] OR IS THERE MORE? >> THERE'S MORE. WE HAD PRINTED THESE BEFORE ON OUR LAST CONVERSATION. WE HAVE OTHER MATERIALS THAT ARE ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE, BUT THAT SECTION HAS BEEN EXPANDED UPON. WE EVALUATED SOME OTHER AIRPORTS THAT WERE SIMILAR TO GALVESTON TO SEE WHAT FACILITIES THEY HAD AND WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WERE AND THE OPERATING COSTS, AND OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK FOR ABOUT A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT BETWEEN MAYBE ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS TO [03:10:04] CONSTRUCT WITH ABOUT 300,000 ANNUAL OPERATING COSTS. >> DO WE NEED A TWO MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY TO CLEAR CUSTOMS HERE? >> [OVERLAPPING] IF WE CAN KEEP THEM LIKE THEY ARE NOW, CLEARING CUSTOMS, THEY COME OUT, CLEAR THE MEDICAL FLIGHTS, AND THEN THEY GO BACK TO THE MAIN OFFICE. >> YES. >> WE CAN GIVE THEM AN OFFICE, AND EVEN SAY A PENNY A YEAR, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET THEM TO AGREE WITH IT. A USER FEE AIRPORT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT TWO MILLION DOLLARS, YOU HAD TO PAY ALL THAT MONEY UP FRONT, AND WE JUST DON'T WANT TO GO THERE. [OVERLAPPING] I LIKE TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. IT'S CHEAPER. >> WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO PREPARE FOR THAT FOR WHEN WE HAVE CUSTOMS [INAUDIBLE] IN TWO YEARS? >> WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM TO LIFT THAT, AND THE HOUSTON CUSTOMS OFFICE SAYS, BECOME A USER FEE AIRPORT. OTHER THAN WAITING, I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE IF THE GALVESTON OFFICE CAN STAND ALONE LIKE THEY'VE LED US TO BELIEVE, AND THEY JUST SAY, WELL, OPEN IT UP. I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE TO DO MUCH OTHER THAN MAYBE GIVE THEM AN OFFICE FOR SOME OF THEIR EQUIPMENT. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY WILL DEMAND AT THE TIME, AND THEY'RE NOT [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT THAT. >> WELL, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO KEEP THAT LINE OF COMMUNICATION OPEN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE CAN REALLY BRING IN A BIG SOURCE OF REVENUE, SELLING FUEL TO THESE JETS AS THEY CLEAR CUSTOMS IS GOING TO BRING ON A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY. >> IT'S SEVERAL HUNDRED FLIGHTS A YEAR AT A MINIMUM WITH FUEL. >> HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ABLE TO GET THE NUMBERS FROM WHAT CONROE'S, IT'S CONROE'S THAT HAVE PUT IN CUSTOMS? WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS [OVERLAPPING] >> I THOUGHT I SHARED THAT WITH THE COUNCIL, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS BEFORE YOUR TIME OR NOT. I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT I REMEMBER WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION ONE TIME. >> THOSE NUMBERS DON'T LOOK GREAT BECAUSE THEY HAD TO BUILD A TWO MILLION DOLLARS FACILITY, AND SO THE RETURN ON THAT IS NOT GREAT, BUT IF WE CAN PUT CUSTOMS [INAUDIBLE] PUTTING OUR TWO MILLION DOLLARS FACILITY IN HERE, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. >> THEY'RE LOSING MONEY RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE BEING SUBSIDIZED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. BYE. >> EXCUSE ME. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD. WE'VE GOT STILL A LOT OF THINGS TO DO HERE. LET'S TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL START WITH BEVERLEY, COME ON UP. ALL RIGHT. >> IS IT OKAY IF I SIT HERE? >> YES, MA'AM. THAT'S PERFECT, BEVERLEY. JUST FOR THE COUNCIL'S NOTIFICATION, COUNCIL MEMBER QUIROGA HAD TO LEAVE. HE WILL NOT BE HERE AND MAY NOT BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU KNOW. >> HOW DID YOU GET THAT GIG? [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] >> WE'LL KNOW MORE THIS AFTERNOON. IF COUNCILMAN QUIROGA IS NOT COMING THIS AFTERNOON, WE WILL NOT DO OUR PICTURE FOR THE COUNCIL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> DRESSED UP. >> I KNOW. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] VERY GOOD. COULD YOU READ JANELLE ITEM 3G, PLEASE MA'AM? [3.G. Status Update Of The Galveston Island Redevelopment Authority, Galveston Housing Finance Corporation, And Galveston Property Finance Authority (B. West - 20 Min)] >> ITEM 3G, STATUS UPDATE OF THE GALVESTON ISLAND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, AND GALVESTON PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY. >> AS YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, WE HAVE ADDRESSED THIS WITH MICHELLE WITH A SERIES OF MEETINGS ESTABLISHING MISSION STATEMENT AND PRIORITIES FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ALSO GAVE HER DIRECTION ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND HOW IT INTERFACES WITH GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, AND WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE BEVERLY WEST WITH HER EXPERTISE THAT'S GOING TO BRING US BACK MORE OF COMMENTS ON THIS STRUCTURE. BEVERLEY. >> HI, I'M BEVERLY WEST. I'M ONE OF YOUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS, AND I THINK I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU, BUT ONLY VIRTUALLY, NEVER IN PERSON. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS. I ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION. IN AUGUST, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE BOARD STRUCTURE AND THE MISSION FOR THE RDA AND A FLOW CHART BASICALLY FOR THESE THREE REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING ENTITIES. THOSE ENTITIES ARE YOUR GALVESTON ISLAND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, [03:15:02] WHICH BASICALLY OVERSEES JUST ONE [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW, BUT ALSO HAS ABILITIES TO DO ALMOST ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION, GOVERNED BY YOUR TRANSPORTATION CODE IN CHAPTER 394, AND THE TWO HOUSING AUTHORITIES, THE GALVESTON HOUSING AUTHORITY IS SPECIFICALLY A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND THE GALVESTON PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY IS ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS. ALL I REALLY WANTED TO GO OVER WITH YOU IS NOW THAT YOU HAVE MADE SOME DECISIONS, AND I'M GOING OVER THAT, WE NEED TO AMEND THE ARTICLES FOR THE CORPORATIONS TO MIRROR THOSE DECISIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE MADE IN JULY AND AUGUST. BASICALLY WHAT YOU DECIDED, ONCE YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME BOARD MEMBERS, WHICH I THINK YOU HAD ACTUALLY DECIDED THAT BEFORE AUGUST, BUT I THINK YOU REALIZED AROUND THAT TIME PERIOD THAT THERE WERE DIFFERENT OFFICERS FOR DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS, AND THESE THREE CORPORATIONS HAVE THE SAME MEMBERS. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ALL THE CORPORATIONS ARE THE ARTICLES, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY CALLED CERTIFICATE OF FORMATION NOW, BUT I'LL JUST CALL THEM ARTICLES BECAUSE THAT'S HOW EVERYBODY GENERALLY REFERS TO THEM. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I JUST SKIPPED OVER THAT ONE. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS, AND ALSO, NOTE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE THE SAME OFFICERS FOR ALL BOARDS. IN THE RDA, EVEN THOUGH YOU ALL APPROVED A WHILE BACK THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD, I THINK THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES, WE GOT THE ARTICLES BACK FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE WANTING SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES PROCEDURALLY. WE STILL NEED TO CHANGE THE FIVE MEMBER BOARD TO A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD, SO YOU HAVE SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS. ALONG WITH CHANGING THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON ALL THREE OF THESE CORPORATIONS, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE SAME TERMS. CURRENTLY, BOTH YOUR HOUSING BOARDS, WHICH IS YOUR GHFC AND GPFA, IS WHAT I HAVE THEM UP THERE, THEY HAVE TWO-YEAR TERMS. WE'RE GOING TO NEED CHANGE THE TERMS IN THE RDA TO TWO-YEAR TERMS UNLESS YOU ALL COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ALSO IN AUGUST, YOU DECIDED THAT YOU WANTED AT LEAST ONE MEMBER TO HAVE FINANCE EXPERIENCE, AND ONE MEMBER HAVE CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE, SO WE'LL NEED TO ADD THAT. YOU COULD PUT IT IN YOUR BYLAWS, BUT WHERE THE COUNCIL REALLY HAS THE AUTHORITY IS IN THE ARTICLES, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL CREATES THE ARTICLES, THE COUNCIL CREATES AT LEAST THE FIRST SET OF BYLAWS. THEN YOU, THE BOARD TAKES OVER ESSENTIALLY, AND THE BOARD CAN BRING YOU CHANGES TO THE ARTICLES OR THE BYLAWS, BUT THE COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL AUTHORITY AND APPROVAL ON ALL OF THESE. WHEN SETTING UP YOUR STRUCTURE FOR THESE CORPORATIONS, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GO AHEAD AND PUT IN THE ARTICLES, THE NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS, THE OFFICERS, AND THE TERMS. SPECIFICALLY IN THE RDA, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PICK THE PRESIDENT. I THINK YOU ALL PROBABLY REMEMBER DOING THAT NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND THE TERM OF THE PRESIDENT. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT YOU HAVE THAT SAME ABILITY FOR ALL THREE OF THEM BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME OFFICERS AND THE SAME BOARD MEMBERS. WE'LL NEED TO CHANGE THAT IN THE TWO HOUSING AUTHORITIES TO MIRROR THAT. >> QUICK QUESTION ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE BYLAWS VERSUS PUTTING IT IN THE ARTICLES. THAT IF IT'S IN THE BYLAWS, THE CORPORATION ITSELF CAN CHANGE THOSE BYLAWS? >> CORRECT. >> WHEREAS IF IT'S IN THE ARTICLES, IT TAKES COUNCIL TO CHANGE IT? >> ACTUALLY, THE WAY THEY YOU ALL HAVE SET THIS UP, AND THAT'S GENERALLY HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON A NON-PROFIT CORPORATION, WITH THE WAY THAT THE CITY HAS SET ALL THREE OF THESE UP IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL SAY ON EVEN THE BYLAWS. >> OKAY. BUT IF WE PUT SOMETHING IN THE ARTICLES AND WE WANT TO CHANGE IT LATER, DOES THAT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE? >> YES. >> THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN PROBLEMATIC IN THIS PROCESS SO FAR. >> IT HAS, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL, WITH THE IEC. [OVERLAPPING] WE RECEIVED THOSE BACK AGAIN RECENTLY. THE EASIER [NOISE] ONE OF MY EARLIER SLIDES I HAD THROWN IN THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER CHAPTER 394. IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE ARTICLES, THEN IT'S THE MAYOR AND THE SECRETARY THAT'S GOING TO SIGN THE ARTICLES RATHER THAN HAVING TO RUN AROUND MAKING SURE WE HAVE A SECRETARY. [03:20:04] THAT WAS THE LAST PIECE IN THE IEC IS THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SECRETARY THAT THEY'D APPOINTED. ANYWAY, I THINK IF YOU START FROM THE TOP, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT. USUALLY THE BYLAWS IS WHAT THE CORPORATION OR THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE GOING TO WORK ON THEIR BYLAWS AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEND THEIR BYLAWS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS AND CURRENTLY THEY CAN CHANGE MEMBERS. THEY DEAL WITH ALL THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF THE CORPORATION. >> RIGHT. >> BUT THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THE BYLAWS TOO. >> THIS SEEMS THAT WHATEVER WAS CHANGED. THIS ONE FINANCE, ONE CONSTRUCTION. I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT'S CHANGING THAT ANY TIME SOON. BUT CAN WE TIRE OUR HANDS BY PUTTING THESE THINGS IN THE ARTICLES? BUT DOING SO. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE COULD DO THAT IN EITHER PLACE. MY NEXT SLIDE, I HAVE A COUPLE MORE SUGGESTIONS. ONE OF THE FINAL THINGS THAT YOU APPROVED WAS ALSO THE FLOW. THAT INFORMATION WOULD GO FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR AS THE LIAISON AND SHE WOULD BASICALLY FILTER INFORMATION OR WHATEVER IT IS [NOISE] THE CITY WANTS OR WHATEVER IT IS THE CORPORATION WANTS, AND SHE WOULD JUST BASICALLY MANAGE AND DIRECT AS SHE DOES BETWEEN THE SAME [INAUDIBLE] MANAGER AND THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S NOT ANYTHING YOU PROBABLY NEED TO PUT IN ANYTHING, BUT MAYBE YOUR BYLAWS IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT OR YOU CAN ALWAYS SUGGEST THAT THE CORPORATION ADD THINGS TO THE BYLAWS. AS FAR AS THE RDA MISSION STATEMENT THAT JOEL APPROVED, I JUST PUT THAT UP THERE JUST TO REMIND YOU, YOU APPROVED A MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE RDA, I WOULD NOT SUGGEST ADDING THAT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PURPOSE IN YOUR ARTICLES, BUT AS FAR AS YOUR MISSION STATEMENT OUT, I THINK IT'S NECESSARY. THE OTHER PIECE IS THE REGISTERED OFFICE AND REGISTERED AGENT. I SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY MAKE THE REGISTERED OFFICE AND THE REGISTERED AGENT AND THE REGISTER OFFICE BE CITY HALL. ACTUALLY IN THE TWO HOUSING AUTHORITIES. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HERE SINCE 88 OR 79. IF YOU JUST KEPT IT AT LEAST THE REGISTERED OFFICE BE CITY HALL, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ADVISABLE. >> RIGHT. >> OTHER THAN THAT, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THAT WAS ALL I REALLY WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. COUPLE THINGS. EMILY. DO YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL NOW FOR US TO OFFICIALLY TAKE ACTION ON THIS? >> YES. >> YOU'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DO. I'LL BRING BACK SUCH [INAUDIBLE] FORMATION FOR ALL THREE. >> PLEASE. >> CORPORATIONS. >> THAT WOULD BE GOOD. SECOND OF ALL, BOARD I MEAN, COUNCIL, WE HAVE THREE OPEN POSITIONS ON RDA. WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT FOR THOSE THIS AFTERNOON. [NOISE] IF WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS TO FILL THOSE SLOTS, GREAT. ALSO THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED, IF WE DO FILL THOSE POSITIONS THIS AFTERNOON, THEN IN OUR NEXT MEETING IN NOVEMBER, WE WILL BE APPOINTING THE, IS IT THE PRESIDENT OR THE CHAIRPERSON? >> THE PRESIDENT. >> PRESIDENT OF THE GROUP. THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL TO THEN SERVE IN THAT POSITION FOR THE RDA, THE COMBINED RDA, GALVESTON HOUSING CRIBS. GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT RELATED WE HAVE? THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING] VERY NICE. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> VERY GOOD. MOVING TO ITEM, LET'S SEE [NOISE] WE HAVE DEFERRED ITEM 3F AND 3H, 3I PLEASE JANEL. [3.I. Council Discussions: a. Short Term Rental Annual Registration Fee/Fire Code Occupancy Limits (Robb/Brown - 15 min)] >> 3I COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS, A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ANNUAL REGISTRATION FEE IN FIRE CODE OCCUPANCY LIMITS. >> COUNCIL WOMAN ROB. >> WELL, I WANTED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION ITEM TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THEY HAVE TILL DECEMBER 31ST TO GO IN AND REGISTER AND PAY THEIR $50 FEE, AND ALSO TALK ABOUT THE FINES OR THE CURRENT FINE STRUCTURE WE HAVE THAT THEY DON'T DO IT AND THEY CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND COVER THAT. DONE. >> IS THAT A, DONE. >> I GOT A QUESTION? >> YES. PLEASE. >> WELL, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THE EXTRA AMOUNT OF FINES THAT WE CAN ASSESS FOR WHICH ESSENTIALLY CLASS C MISDEMEANORS. [03:25:07] OUR [INAUDIBLE] 500 UP TO 2000 DOLLARS. >> THAT'S 500 A DAY UP TO 2000. >> RIGHT. THEORETICALLY, IF YOU HAD A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATING WITHOUT A LICENSE, WITHOUT REGISTRATION, I WOULD SAY WE WOULD SEEK TO FIND THEM AND TRY TO ASSESS THE FINE AT $500 A DAY OR WHAT HAVE YOU. WE WILL MAKE THESE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE STRUCTURE. FINALLY, GET JUDGE TO ACTUALLY ASSESS THOSE FINES ON A DAILY BASIS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE RELUCTANT TO DO IT OR WILLING TO DO IT. I DO NOT KNOW. >> THEY COULD ALSO LOSE THEIR LICENSE NUMBER, WHICH THEN THEY CANNOT ADVERTISE, CORRECT. >> THE LICENSING AND YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT ANYBODY WHO ADVERTISES A SHORT-TERM RENTAL USING ANY MEDIUM MUST INCLUDE THE LICENSE NUMBER. >> WELL THEN, COUNCIL WOMAN ROB IS ANSWERING ASKING IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT DECEMBER 31ST DEADLINE. THEIR REGISTRATION IS FOR, WELL THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED, SO THEY MISSED THAT REGISTRATION DEADLINE, SO THEY CAN'T ADVERTISE AND CAN'T OPERATE THERE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THEY COULD DO IT. THEY WOULD MERELY BE DOING IT IN VIOLATION OF OUR ORDINANCE. [NOISE] TO ENFORCE THAT ORDINANCE, WE WOULD REALLY HAVE TO SEEK AN INJUNCTION. MUNICIPAL COURT DOES NOT HAVE AN INJUNCTIVE AUTHORITY, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COUNTY OR DISTRICT COURT. COUNTY COURT IS PROBABLY BETTER. >> BUT I THINK MARRIE'S POINT HERE IS THAT WE NEED TO BROADCAST THIS BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATED SOMETHING IN THE ORDER OF 3,800 REGISTRATIONS. BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE STALE, HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE JUST NATURALLY FALL OFF. BUT A YEAR FROM NOW WHEN THE SOFTWARE IS UP AND RUNNING, WE WANT TO HAVE A CLEAN DATABASE. THE IDEA WAS FORCE EVERYONE TO REGISTER OR RE-REGISTER BY DECEMBER 31ST. WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT 1,000 NOW? >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S DOWN FROM THE 2,800 WE HAD SIX MONTHS AGO BECAUSE THEY SAID WE SIMPLY HAVEN'T HAD THAT MANY PEOPLE REGISTER. >> WE JUST KEEP RE-REGISTERING EVENTUALLY WE WON'T HAVE ANY SHORT-TERM MUNICIPAL WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM. [LAUGHTER]. >> I'M SORRY IS THAT AN ADDITION TO THE ONE SET OF THE PREVIOUSLY? >> NO SIR. BECAUSE WE'VE REQUIRED RE-REGISTRATION OF EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE DATABASE, THAT'S NOT A DATA BASE IT'S AN EXCEL LIST. BUT THAT'S THE IDEA, IS BUILDING THIS DATABASE TO GET THEM TO RE-REGISTER. WHEN PARK BOARD GETS THIS STOOD UP SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR AND BEGINS TO AUDIT THESE REGISTRATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO FIND A LOT OF THEM HAVE NOT COMPLIED AREN'T REGISTERED, AND SO FORTH. >> YEAH. BUT IF A CURRENT SHORT-TERM RENTAL DOES NOT GO AND REGISTER. >> PROACTIVELY PAY. >> PAY THEIR $50 FEE, THEY WILL, FIRST AND FOREMOST LOSE THEIR LICENSE NUMBER, AND WHICH WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH A NUMBER OF PLATFORMS NOW THAT WILL NOT ACCEPT THEM WITHOUT A LICENSE NUMBER. THEY WILL ALSO BE SUBJECT TO A DAILY FINE IF THEY ARE OPERATING ILLEGALLY ASIDE FROM THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE UNDERLINED. BUT TO THIS DATE, INCLUDING THIS 600, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 1,000. PEOPLE, WE NEED TO START PUTTING MORE PRESS OUT ABOUT REMINDING PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, WHICH IS QUICKLY APPROACHING, OR THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE THEIR ABILITY TO BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. >> [OVERLAPPING] MAY I ASK IF THE PART WHERE WE SENT OUT A POSTCARD OR SOMETHING. >> THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. I TALKED TO BRYSON ABOUT THAT, HE HAD THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND THEY WERE GOING TO NOTIFY [03:30:04] EACH CURRENT REGISTRANT PERSONALLY ON THAT VIA. >> BUT THEY HAVE TILL THE END OF THE YEAR TO DO IT, RIGHT? >> WHICH IS TWO MONTHS. >> WHICH THEY MAY PROCRASTINATE BECAUSE THERE'S A FEE INVOLVED. >> THEN THE NEW YEAR BEGINS? >> I KNOW BUT [INAUDIBLE]. >> NO, WHEN YOU GET TO NEXT JULY AND YOU DISCOVER SOMEONE IS OPERATING WITHOUT THEIR REGISTRATION, YOU NOTIFY THEM. THEY CAN TURN RIGHT AROUND AND REGISTER THEN. THIS DOESN'T CUT THEM OUT OF DOING IT ALL TOGETHER IT'S JUST THE IDEA WAS TO TRY TO CLEAN UP THIS LIST OF REGISTRANTS BY THE END OF THE YEAR, AND IS BEING LESS SUCCESSFUL THAN WE THOUGHT. [LAUGHTER] PERHAPS IT WILL BE. >> NO, IF THEY DON'T REGISTER AND THEY'RE STILL OPERATING BY NEXT JULY THEY'LL LOSE THEIR LICENSE JANUARY 1ST. >> TILL THEY RE-REGISTER. >> BUT THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND RE-REGISTER, BUT IT'S LIABLE TO BE MOST OF THE YEAR BEFORE THAT GETS ITSELF CLEANED UP UNTIL WE GET THE NEW SOFTWARE IN PLACE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO SEE WHO'S OPERATING AND WHO'S NOT REGISTERED, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO CALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT ONE AT A TIME. I THINK TOO WHICH MIGHT BE A MISUNDERSTANDING IN THE INDUSTRY OUT THERE IS THE CURRENT ONES HAVE TO RE-REGISTER. >> CORRECT. >> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. SO WE DO NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT. DAVID OR I SHOULD SAY, BRIAN OR DON, CAN WE CONFIRM WITH THE PARK BOARD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONTACT EACH ONE OF THESE ENTITIES TO MAKE SURE THEY REALIZED THAT. I THINK BRIAN, TO GRAY'S POINT, IT'D BE NICE FOR MARISSA TO PUT SOMETHING OUT AS AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THAT. >> OKAY. >> YEAH SURE. >> VERY GOOD. >> ANYTHING ELSE MARRIE? >> WELL, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO WITH OCCUPANCY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON [INAUDIBLE]. >> MAY I JUST PICK IT UP? I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW PLANNING COMMISSIONER BOB BROWN. HE SENT ME AN ARTICLE AND A BLOG POST THAT CAME FROM AUSTIN'S REALTOR, BUT THAT IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. HE'S SENT, I THINK FOR ME AND THE MAYOR. I HAVE [INAUDIBLE] BEFORE THAT EVERYBODY, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IT CONTAINS IS A PRETTY GOOD TWO-PAGER ON, THIS IS MOSTLY ABOUT CENTRAL TEXAS AUSTIN AREA CITIES AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY HAVE APPLIED. WHEN WE GET TO OUR NEXT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS WHICH IS COMING UP, WE'LL HAVE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION AND I KNOW WE'RE ALWAYS AFRAID THAT AUSTIN'S GOING TO DO SOMETHING, GOING TO GET SUED AND IT'S ALL OVER, DEAD. >> THEY ALREADY HAVE. >> WELL, THEY HAVE BUT NOT EVERYTHING. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE OUT OF BUSINESS. BUT THIS IS A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE. I DON'T WANT TO GET IN A DISCUSSION OF IT TODAY, BUT I SENT THIS OUT TO EVERYBODY. IT'S JUST REALLY INTERESTING INFORMATION. >> YEAH, ANYHOW. AS WE ALL KNOW, IT JUST WARRANTS A DISCUSSION. WE'VE GOT TO GET IN AND START TO DISCUSS THIS. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME CONSTRAINTS ON US HERE, DON, BUT THIS DISCUSSION NEEDS TO START UP HERE FAIRLY. >> OF COURSE >> WHERE IS THAT? WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS? >> WELL, THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN FORMED NOW IS WORKING WITH THE PARK BOARD AND SETTING UP THE SOFTWARE, AND COLLECTING DATA. [OVERLAPPING]. >> BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT THE IMPACT FEE WE'RE NOT [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE'RE REGISTERED. WHAT THEY'RE DISCUSSING IS REGISTRATION. WELL, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE REGISTRATION FEE, AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING IS THE SOFTWARE PLATFORM AND ITS FUNCTIONALITY, AND WHAT THE BEST PACKAGE, AND SO FORTH. WHERE IT COMES TO THE ORDINANCE OF THE REGULATIONS, THAT'S UP TO US. THE COMMITTEE IS NOT DEALING WITH THAT ASPECT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. >> WHAT WAS NOT AN IMPACT FEE, WE CAME UP WITH THE TERM FROM [NOISE]. >> IT'S IMPACT FEE. >> YES BUT IT'S IN PLACE FOR THEM TO FILL IN. >> YEAH, IT WAS STRUCTURE TO USER FEE OR. >> USER FEES. >> USER FEE. >> [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, I MEAN, WE NEED TO THEN, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THERE WAS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WAS WORKING ON THAT. >> NOT ON THAT BUT. >> THEY NEED TO GET THAT ON OUR AGENDAS SOONER. >> WE WILL. I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THOUGHTS ON THAT, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE'LL DISCUSS IT A LATER DAY, BUT WE'LL GET THAT ON THE AGENDA, MARRIE, AND MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY ALL THAT, BY ALL MEANS. >> I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE EXCEL SHEET AND THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, [03:35:01] WHO DOESN'T PAY THEIR FEE AND LOSING THEIR LICENSE NUMBER. HOW DO YOU KNOW? >> WELL, THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN AS THE SOFTWARE COMES ON. >> OKAY. >> WE'RE JUST TRYING BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THOSE 2,800 NUMBERS IN THE NEW SOFTWARE AND DISCOVER THAT 1,000 OF THEM ARE INVALID BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER. BRIAN LIVES IN A HOUSE AND WE BOUGHT A HOUSE, IT WAS REGISTERED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. I THINK HE RENTS IT OUT TO HIS KIDS. BUT OTHER THAN THAT [OVERLAPPING]. [LAUGHTER] BUT BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] YOU HAVE A SHARP DOWN, [OVERLAPPING] THE [LAUGHTER] POINTS GO FROM THAT STATIC TEXTILE LIST INTO THE SOFTWARE. THIS WAS A WAY OF THINKING THAT THE DIAGONAL. >> I GUESS I CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE MORE. AS OF DECEMBER 31ST THIS YEAR, IF YOU HAVEN'T RE-REGISTERED, AND PAID YOUR $50, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A YEAR FROM NOW BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE ON THAT EXCEL SHEET, PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR ABILITY TO RENT OR THEY'LL BE OPERATING ILLEGALLY. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T THREE J PLEASE JENELL [3.J. Report Of City Council's Park Board Representative (Collins/Brown - 10 Minutes)] >> THREE J. REPORTED A CITY COUNCIL'S [INAUDIBLE]. >> [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO HAVE SOMETHING WE NEED TO AT LEAST BE AWARE OF. SOMETIMES BACK WHEN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT REPLACING OR REMOVING THE STRIP PAVILION CAME TO COUNSEL A FAIRLY EXPENSIVE PLAN TO REPLACE. IT WAS PRESENTED AS THE LAST COUNSEL MATTER OF FACT, AND THAT DID NOT MEET I THINK COUNCIL'S VISION FOR WHAT THE EXPENSE AND SIZE OF THIS OPERATION WOULD BE. BUT I FEEL LIKE THE DIRECTION WE GAVE PARK BOARD AT A TIME WAS TO GO BACK AND FIND A WAY TO DECOMMISSION, THE STUART BEACH PAVILLON BECAUSE IT HAS QUITE HONESTLY REACHED THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE AND WAS NEVER REALLY BUILT FOR WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO USE IT FOR OVER THE LAST OF THE DOMAIN ANYWAY. TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FACILITIES FOR RESTAURANTS AND SHOWERS AND VENDORS, HOUSING FOR BEACH PATROL, PERHAPS SINCE OFFICES, FACILITIES LIKE THAT. THAT PARK BOARD STAFF HAS BEEN MESSING WITH THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND WHAT CAME OUT OF IT WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE IN STUART BEACH. THAT'S MUTATED QUITE A BIT SINCE THAT CONVERSATION GOT STARTED IN COVID, KIND OF KEPT IT BELOW THE RADAR FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND WHAT'S POPPED BACK UP IN PARK BOARD POPPED UP. THAT WORD I'M ON THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSING THIS, IS THE CONCEPT OF USING SOME OF THAT PROPERTY TO BUILD A HOTEL OR RESORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. EVERY REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION WENT OUT FROM PARK BOARD ON THIS. WE HAVE SOME THREE VENDORS WHO'VE COME BACK AND SUGGESTED THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IT. PARK BOARD INVITED THEM DOWN IN NOVEMBER TO LOOK AT THE SITE AND TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE WHOLE BONE HORSE HERE. THAT COUNCIL HAS NOT, WE GAVE THEM THAT DIRECTION TO GO AND FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE, BUT THE SOLUTION THEY'RE DEVELOPING MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN COUNCIL HAD IN MIND. WE'VE SCHEDULED MEETING ON JANUARY 6TH, [OVERLAPPING] JANUARY 6TH. WE'D LIKE TO DO IT SOONER, BUT WITH ALL THE MEETINGS AND THE REDISTRICTING AND SO FORTH, IT'S NOT TILL JANUARY 6 ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT. BUT AT THAT MEETING, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO GIVE PARK BOARD DIRECTION ON WHAT WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE HAPPENING, THIS ASSET STUART BEACH. SOME GOOD THINGS WILL COME OUT OF IT, WE WEREN'T EVEN A 100 PERCENT SURE WHAT THE BOUNDS OF STUART BEACH WORK ACCORDING TO THE ORIGINAL GRANT DEED THAT WE GOT, WE NOW KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING SOME PARTNERS DELINEATE THE EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN SAMPLE. [OVERLAPPING] >> A POINT IN HIS FRONT YARD IS ACTUALLY A BEACH. >> DON'T SAY THAT. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] >> DON'T SAY THAT. [OVERLAPPING] >> NO SUCH COMPREHENSIVE. [LAUGHTER] BUT WE'RE GOING TO SOME WEAPONS DELINEATION OVER THERE, SOME MINOR THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD OVER THERE, BUT I THINK CITY STAFF HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPOSALS. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND TO KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO AS A CITY WITH STUART BEACH. HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT WE WANT TO SEE OVER THERE. [03:40:01] HOW LARGE RESPONSE TO THESE IS NEEDS WE DELINEATED OVER THERE. >> WHAT'S TIES TO INVEST THE PARK BOARD VERSUS WHAT'S TIES TO INVEST FOR GALVESTON SINCE IT'S OUR PARK. >> GIVING US A RESTRICTION IN THE DEED THAT SAYS IT WILL BE USED AS A PARK. >> IT IS A PARK RESERVE FOR THE AMUSEMENT AND PAYMENT [OVERLAPPING] COMES THE [INAUDIBLE]. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SOME LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEAT. >> [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE REASONS THOSE SO [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]. >> IF DAVID IS SO RIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IT, WILL HAVE A JOINT MEETING ON JANUARY 6 WITH THE PARK BOARD, THEY'RE GOING TO BRING FORWARD NOT ONLY STUART BEACH BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING FORWARD EACH DAY IN THE GOOD IN SIMPLE [OVERLAPPING] THEY WILL PARK, AND [OVERLAPPING] GOOD STUFF. >> THEY'RE GOOD STUFF THERE. >> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY ON STUART BEACH, THAT WE GIVE CLEAR DIRECTIONS TO THE PARK BOARD. >> I WILL DO MY BEST IN THE IMPROVE THESE THINGS DEVELOPED TO PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH MATERIAL THAN THE LIABILITY WE SEEING. >> AGAIN, TO DISSEMINATE? >> YEAH. THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU, DAVID, VERY MUCH. IT IS 12:45 PM AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR ITEMS ON THE DISCUSSION FOR OUR WORKSHOP. WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION] TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 55 1.071, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE CONDUCTED TO DISCUSS AND RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE CONCERNING PENDING LITIGATION AND OR A SETTLEMENT OFFER OR AN MATTERS IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY, UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND CAUSE NUMBER 19 DASH CB DASH 2191, SHARON DAVIS, AND AS A SIGNING OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON VERSUS QUALITY WORKS CONSTRUCTION INCORPORATED AND INSURERS INDEMNITY COMPANY, 56 JUDICIAL COURT, GALVESTON COUNTY, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AND DOCUMENT NECESSARY EXECUTE AND ANY DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE SETTLEMENT AND RELEASE. WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> WE WILL NOT BE DOING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON [INAUDIBLE]. >> YES, SIR. I'D ANSWER. >> [OVERLAPPING] WE HANDLE THAT, THE OPEN MEETING. >> YEAH, WE HANDLED IT ALREADY. >> VERY GOOD. >> GOODBYE. >> [NOISE] ARE WE READY TO GO? [NOISE] IS NOW 1:11 PM. WE ARE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA, AND I'M NOW OFFICIALLY ADJOURNING THE MEETING OF OUR WORK. [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] >> JUST TO GO BACK REAL QUICK TO THE ITEM 3, SHORT-TERM RENTAL ANNUAL REGISTRATION. I SUPPOSE THE PRICE AND PRESSURE AT THE BOTTOM PORTION, AND THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED COMMUNICATION WITH THE EXISTING REGISTRANTS YESTERDAY IN THEIR MEETING AND THAT'S GOING OUT VERY SOON THAT COMMUNICATION. [OVERLAPPING] >> THANK YOU, DAVID, APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, IT IS 1:11 STILL PM. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR ITEMS ON OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA, AND WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.