IN AN EXCHANGE AT THIS WORKSHOP, SO WE'LL CALL THIS PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP TO ORDER 
          [1. Call Meeting To Order]
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OCTOBER 19TH, 2:30 P.M. 
          IT IS A VIRTUAL MEETING. 
          AND LET'S TAKE ATTENDANCE, PLEASE. 
          [2. Attendance]
MR. COLLINS. 
          VICE CHAIRPERSON BROWN, HERE, COMMISSIONER EDWARDS IS ABSENT AS OF NOW, AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER FINKLEA, CHAIRPERSON HILL, HERE, COMMISSIONER HUMPHREY, HERE, COMMISSIONER PENA, HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER WALLA IS ABSENT AS OF NOW AND COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI, HERE. 
          I'LL JUST MAKE A NOTE THAT WE'VE JUST RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM MR. FINKLEA THAT HE HAS HAD AN EMERGENCY AND WILL NOT BE ATTENDING. 
          OK, AND DID HE MENTION IF THAT'S JUST FOR THE WORKSHOP OR IS THAT FOR THE MEETING ALSO? OK, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING WITH FOUR PEOPLE, BARELY A QUORUM FOR THE MEETING, SO WE WILL NEED TO HAVE TO SPEAK WITH OUR APPLICANT ABOUT THAT SITUATION WHEN WE START OUR ACTUAL MEETING. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WORKSHOP ITEM COMMISSIONERS? NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. 
          OUR ONE DISCUSSION ITEM TODAY IS THE CONCESSION REGULATIONS AND MR. 
          [4. Discussion Items]
LUNSFORD, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, SIR, ENLIGHTEN US. 
          OK. WELL, I MEAN, YOU'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE ENLIGHTENED WITH EVERY MEETING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO. 
          YOU MAY NOT NEED ME FOR MUCH LONGER. 
          I PREPARED A VERY SHORT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION JUST TO KIND OF GET EVERYONE UP TO SPEED. 
          I JUST HAVE CATHERINE PULL IT UP, AND I'LL JUST MAYBE ASK HER TO ADVANCE THE POWERPOINTS FOR ME. BUT IT'S VERY BRIEF, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A RUNDOWN OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED IN THE MEMO. 
          IT'S TAKEN ME A MINUTE TO GET THAT UP FOR YOU, DANIEL. 
          MM HMM. MEANTIME, I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT. 
          THE CITY MARSHAL, [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, BUTCH, WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          YEAH I'M HAVE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, I'M ON MY CELL PHONE NOW. WE CAN HEAR YOU, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. WHAT WAS HIS NAME AGAIN? BUTCH STROUD. 
          OH, OK. AND I ALWAYS LOVE HEARING HIS VOICE. 
          I THINK YOU SOUND LIKE YOU COULD BE IN A MOVIE OR A TV SHOW, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT VOICE. IT'S VERY DISTINCTIVE. 
          I CAN'T CAMOUFLAGE IT. 
          NO PRANK CALLS, FOR SURE. 
          DANIEL, WHILE WE WAIT FOR THAT SLIDESHOW TO COME UP, MAY I START WITH ONE OF MY FIRST QUESTIONS, IT'S A VERY GENERAL QUESTION. 
          PLEASE, SIR. SURE. 
          AND IF AND IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE POWERPOINT, CATHERINE, I CAN JUST SPEAK OFF OF THE MEMO BECAUSE IT'S REALLY JUST THE SAME THING. 
          BUT YEAH, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. 
          MY FIRST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH YOUR. 
          THE SECOND POINT THAT YOU BRING IN THE PLANNING COMMENTS AND CONCERNS WHERE YOU SAY STAFF HAD DETERMINED THAT CONCESSIONS MIGHT BE BETTER TREATED AS A LAND USE WITH LIMITED USE STANDARDS, AND STAFF WILL PRESENT A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE LDR REGS AT A FUTURE DATE ONCE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PROVIDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO THAT AS TO TRADING THE CONCESSIONS REGULATIONS AS AN LDR? ALLOWABLE USE VS. 
          AN ORDINANCE. 
          OR ARE THEY MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE? WELL, NOT NECESSARILY, AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHERE THE IDEA CAME FROM. 
          TIM TIETJENS AND I WERE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A WORKSHOP AGO OR MORE IN, YOU KNOW, I REALIZE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, CONCESSIONS ARE TIED TO TIED TO ZONING AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED IN FIVE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, LIKE 10 OR 12 ZONING DISTRICTS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAY BE MADE IN SOME OF THE EXISTING REGULATIONS ON FOOD TRUCKS HONESTLY COULD PROBABLY BE PRETTY EASILY CONVERTED INTO A LIMITED USE STANDARD AND PUT INTO OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AS A LAND USE, ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, SHORT TERM VACATION RENTALS AND OUTDOOR STORAGE AND ALL THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, STUFF. 
          IT REALLY EITHER WAY, IT, YOU KNOW, COMES TO THE SAME END. 
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IT WAS JUST AN IDEA WE THOUGHT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCISE AND STREAMLINED THAN A FREE FLOATING QUOTE, UNQUOTE, SO TO SPEAK, ORDINANCE. 
          JUST FROM AN ORGANIZATIONAL STANDPOINT, IT'S BEEN EASIER FOR US TO KEEP ALL OF OUR REGULATIONS IN THE SAME DOCUMENT. 
          SO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS CURRENTLY IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. 
          I'VE GOT YOUR POWERPOINT READY, DANIEL. 
          SORRY FOR THAT DELAY. OH NO PROBLEM, YEAH IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP, GO AHEAD. 
          OK, WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT. 
          OK. YEAH, THERE IS A VERY SHORT DELAY ON MY END, JUST A FEW SECONDS. 
          SO, YEAH, THE FIRST PAGE IS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR AND MOSTLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR NEWER COMMISSION MEMBERS, WHICH I THINK WE STAFF DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM. I GUESS IT WAS YESTERDAY, GOSH, AND KIND OF BROUGHT THEM UP TO SPEED. 
          IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING. THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS ASKED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THEM UP TO SPEED AS MUCH AS WE COULD WITH THE TIME BEING. 
          AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE PROVIDED THEM WITH RESOURCES. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE RECORDINGS THAT WE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER AND OTHER THINGS, AND JUST AS A REMINDER TO ALL OF THE COMMISSION, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS, I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO STAFF VIA EMAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME. 
          I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND. 
          SO THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS JUST, YEAH, A KIND OF A SUMMARY OF OF WHAT'S IN THE MEMO. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THESE CONSIDERATIONS ARE THINGS THAT STAFF DOES NOT RECALL PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT TO DATE. 
          SO THIS IS MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, REMINDER OF, HEY, HERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT. 
          AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS A, YOU KNOW, END ALL, BE ALL LIST OF THINGS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MAY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, VISIT AND SEND ON TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND I'LL JUST RUN DOWN THE LIST VERY QUICKLY. 
          YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE AND SOME OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE EASIER, PROBABLY TO HAMMER OUT THAN OTHERS IS, YOU KNOW, IS THE FIVE HUNDRED FEE THAT WE HAVE NOW, IS THAT OK? IS THAT NOT OK? IS IT TOO MUCH? IS IT NOT ENOUGH, ET CETERA? THE SECOND POINT IS, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT, DO WE WANT TO RECOMMEND OR DOES A COMMISSION RATHER WANT TO RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, CONCESSION PARKS ONLY MODEL OR STILL ALLOW THINGS PEOPLE TO BE, YOU KNOW, FREE STANDING. 
          AND IF SO, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT, SO TO SPEAK, CARROTS OR STICKS MAY BE AVAILABLE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, GO INTO THE PARK MODEL IF THAT'S WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION CHOOSES TO RECOMMEND. 
          SITE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF SEATING THE CONCESSIONS ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED TOO MUCH. 
          DO WE WANT TO REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, RESTROOMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT MAY BE INVOLVED WITH THE SITE IS ONE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE LIMITED USE STANDARDS. 
          AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE CONCESSION PARK REQUIREMENTS. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, POTTED PLANTS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT READS VERY MUCH LIKE LIMITED USE STANDARD, QUITE HONESTLY AS IT IS. 
          ONE QUESTION WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT THE COMMISSION HAS REALLY DELVED INTO IS WOULD THE RECOMMENDATION BE TO ONLY ALLOWED FOOD SERVICE AND, YOU KNOW, FOOD PRODUCTS OR OTHER MERCHANDISE? IT'S KIND OF SORT OF UP IN THE AIR, YOU KNOW, TO THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, PLANNING STAFF HAS MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT NON-FOOD ITEMS ARE OK, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT. 
          THE BIG ONE, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG ONES. 
          ONE OF THE ONES THAT HONESTLY GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF TREPIDATION IS THE GUY WHO DOES ALL THE FOOD TRUCK PERMITS. 
          IS THERE A WAY TO ALLOW TEMPORARY PERMITS FOR A WEEKEND OR, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS? WELL, AS IT IS NOW, YOU KNOW, CONCESSIONS CAN COME IN FOR A SPECIAL EVENT THAT GOES THROUGH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND OF COURSE, THAT INCLUDES THE BIG THREE, MARDI GRAS, DICKENS ON THE STRAND AND LONE STAR. 
          BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER EVENTS THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND SOME OF THEM 
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ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEY DON'T QUALIFY AS A SPECIAL EVENT FOR PARKS DEPARTMENT STANDARDS. SO, YOU KNOW, THE BIG QUESTION THERE IS THERE SOME WAY TO ALLOW TEMPORARY PERMITS THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE REALM OF OF STAFF TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP TRACK OF AND GIVES, YOU KNOW, CONCESSION CONCESSIONAIRES SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THESE OTHER, YOU KNOW, EVENTS THAT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, CITY MAY NOT GO THROUGH THE CITY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF AN OPEN QUESTION. 
          ONE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, WHICH I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILMAN COLLINS WHO HAD MENTIONED THEM AS A POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, PLACE TO LOOK AT. 
          THEY PROVIDE AN EXEMPTION FOR NONPROFITS IN SCHOOLS. 
          SO IF A CHURCH WANTED TO BRING A FOOD TRUCK ONTO THEIR PROPERTY FOR, SAY, THE YOU KNOW, THE FALL FALL FESTIVALS THAT EVERYONE'S GEARING UP FOR RIGHT NOW, THEY COULD BE ABLE TO. 
          WHEREAS RIGHT NOW WE WOULDN'T MAKE THE CONCESSION PULL AN ANNUAL PERMIT JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. 
          SO IS THAT A POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, TWEAK TO MAKE? THIS IS ONE THAT WE'VE STAFF HAS TALKED ABOUT. 
          WE'VE I'VE TALKED WITH BUTCH ABOUT THIS, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH CHRIS HARRISON, THE FIRE MARSHAL, ABOUT IT YET. 
          BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? ELECTRICAL WHAT MANNERS CAN FOOD TRUCKS USE TO TAKE ELECTRICAL POWER? STAFF DID A PARTIAL REVIEW OF EXISTING FOOD TRUCKS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL GIVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ON TO FOLLOW UP WITH. 
          BUT WE DISCOVERED THAT A GOOD NUMBER OF THEM ARE NOT TAKING POWER THE WAY THEY ARE CURRENTLY SUPPOSED SUPPOSED TO. 
          BUT THAT BEGS THE QUESTION. 
          CURRENTLY, THEY ONLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS, WHICH IS A T-POLE, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY POLE WITH ITS OWN METER AND CONNECTIONS, OR A GENERATOR. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WITH GENERATORS THAT MAKE THEM SOMEWHAT IMPRACTICAL AT TIMES. BUT THE QUESTION IS, ARE THERE OTHER WAYS THAT THEY CAN SAFELY TAKE POWER OTHER THAN THESE TWO, THESE TWO THINGS WE CURRENTLY ALLOW AND THAT MAY VERY WELL INVOLVE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THE FIRE MARSHAL, EVEN OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT IN FOR RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO THIS MAY NOT BE A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ANSWER IMMEDIATELY. 
          ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A CONCESSION VEHICLE OR TRAILER OR THE NUMBER OF, FOR EXAMPLE, COULD SOMEONE HAVE? YOU KNOW, ONE CONCESSION, ONE BUSINESS OPERATING OUT OF TWO TRAILERS, HOW WOULD WE HANDLE THAT IF WE SHOULD EVER HAPPEN? WHAT IF SOMEONE HAS A CONCESSION THAT IS BUILT IN THE BACK OF A SEMI? I'VE SEEN THEM, THEY DO EXIST. 
          DO WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT? SHOULD WE WORRY ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW, PROVISIONS FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT INSPECTION, CHRIS HARRISON HAS INFORMED ME THAT IN THE UPCOMING FIRE CODE, WHICH THE CITY IS EXPECTED TO ADOPT IN ITS ENTIRETY, THEY WILL HAVE TO OR FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO FIRE INSPECTIONS ON THE UNITS. 
          SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE'LL DEFINITELY WANT TO PUT IN THE ORDINANCE OR IN THE LIMITED USE STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, IN SOME MANNER. 
          AND SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION IS ASKED TO THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NOT AN END ALL BE ALL LIST. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO THIS IS JUST VERY BRIEFLY, SOME STAFF REQUESTS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS. THE FIRST ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT A YEAR TO YEAR EXPIRATION AS IN IF SOMEONE PULLS THEIR CONCESSION PERMIT ON MARCH 1ST OF ONE YEAR, IT WOULD EXPIRE AT MARCH 1ST OVER THE NEXT YEAR. 
          OR, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE LAST DAY OF APRIL, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SEE IT, AS OPPOSED TO EVERYTHING EXPIRING AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          WELL, QUITE FRANKLY, NEITHER PLANNING STAFF NOR CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS THE MAN HOURS OR MANPOWER TO KEEP TRACK OF THESE. 
          SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE KEEP IT AS A EVERYTHING EXPIRES ON THE DECEMBER 31ST OF EACH YEAR, AND KEEP IN MIND ALSO THAT, YOU KNOW, PLANNING STAFF CAN PRO-RATE A FEE FOR SOMEONE WHO COMES IN LATE IN FIVE MINUTES. 
          IT'S QUITE EASY TO DO SO. 
          STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND AND LIE FOR COMMISSION TO CONSIDER LEAVING THAT DEADLINE AS IT IS. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, NEWCOMERS OR LATE ARRIVALS, WE JUST 
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PRORATE. ANOTHER THING THAT STAFF HAS SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT IS THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT STRIKING THE REFERENCES TO GALVESTON COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT STAFF BELIEVES THAT THOSE ARE STILL RELEVANT AND SHOULD STAY IN, YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCE IF IT REMAINS AN ORDINANCE OR THE LIMIT TO USE STANDARDS. IF WE GO THAT ROUTE BECAUSE IT ACCOMPLISHES THREE THINGS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, IT GIVES THE APPLICANT NOTICE THAT, OH, THIS OTHER ORGANIZATION WHO PROVIDES OUR FOOD SAFETY FOR ALL OF THE CITY, WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN CITY HEALTH DISTRICT OR HEALTH DEPARTMENT OF COURSE. 
          THEY HAVE A PART IN THIS AND THAT HELPS THE THE APPLICANT BE AWARE THAT, OH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT INVOLVES THIS OUTSIDE AGENCY. 
          NUMBER TWO, IT, YOU KNOW, NOTES FORMALLY IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS THIS GALVESTON COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT PERMIT TO OPERATE. 
          SO STAFF THINKS IT'S IMPORTANT TO TO LEAVE THOSE REFERENCES IN, EVEN THOUGH, YES, THIS IS AN OUTSIDE AGENCY THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY OF GALVESTON OTHERWISE. BUT IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN OUR, YOU KNOW, FOOD SERVICE SAFETY, BUT THOSE REFERENCES REMAIN. 
          AND THAT, OF COURSE, HERE'S THE BIG ONE HERE. 
          HERE'S THE BIG ONE THE RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW FOOD TRUCKS TO MOVE AROUND OR NOT, AND I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO ELABORATE ON THAT. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE, I THINK, THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. 
          AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITED USE AS A AS A LAND USE AND THE LDR VERSUS A STANDALONE ORDINANCE AND. 
          I THINK THAT THE LAST TWO POINTS ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT. 
          FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO SET A SCHEDULE OR A DEADLINE FOR TAKING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING PRESENTING SOMETHING TO A COUNCIL. 
          AND KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHEN THIS GOES TO COUNCIL AND WHEN COUNCIL APPROVES, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CHANGES THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THEY DECIDE ON, THE FOLKS WHO HAVE THE CONCESSIONS PROBABLY ARE GOING TO NEED SOME TIME TO ADJUST. 
          SO PERHAPS THESE ORDINANCES, THESE CHANGES DON'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL 2023 OR, YOU KNOW, SOME TIME TO GIVE EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, SOME TIME TO GET USED TO IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR LITERALLY FOR YEARS, PRETTY MUCH SINCE WE HAD A FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE USED TO DOING THINGS A CERTAIN WAY. 
          THEY'LL DEFINITELY NEED TIME TO ADJUST. 
          AND FINALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO USE AT LEAST SOME OF THIS WORKSHOP TO, YOU KNOW, JUST PIN DOWN THE QUESTIONS AND THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL TO CHANGE. 
          AND THEN IN FUTURE WORKSHOPS, THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THE DECISIONS BECAUSE REALLY THE COMPARATIVELY EASY PART, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE DECISIONS IS KIND OF DONE. 
          NOW IT'S THE HARD PART ACTUALLY MAKING DECISIONS. 
          SO LET'S KIND OF LET'S KIND OF STAFF'S THOUGHTS AT THIS POINT. 
          OK, THANK YOU, DANIEL, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS, OH, SO MANY THOUGHTS. 
          WHILE WE AND DANIEL AND I TALKED YESTERDAY, WE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF TRYING TO PLOW THROUGH SOME OF THE MORE EASILY ANSWERED QUESTIONS TODAY TO TRY AND GET SOME OF THIS KNOCKED OUT. I HAD HOPED WE WOULD HAVE HAVE BETTER ATTENDANCE, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE MORE OF US HERE MAKING THESE DECISIONS. 
          SO I'M GOING TO SHIFT A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE HAVE BUTCH HERE TODAY. 
          ASK BUTCH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, THEN I'M GOING TO ASK DONNA A QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL PLOW IN AND THEN JOHN PAUL AND SEE IF WE CAN ASK SOME OF THOSE HOPEFULLY EASY QUESTIONS. 
          AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION QUESTIONS. 
          AND THEN I AGREE WITH DANIEL THAT WE NEED TO SET SOME GOALS AS FAR AS TIMING GOES. 
          SO FIRST FOR BUTCH, ARE YOU THERE, BUTCH? YES, I AM. THE QUESTION THAT DANIEL MENTIONED THAT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO YOU AND TO THE MARSHAL'S DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE  TRUCKS MOVING AROUND. 
          WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND THE THOUGHTS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT ON WHETHER THE TRUCKS NEED TO STAY IN ONE PLACE OR WHETHER YOU ALL CAN FIND THEM IF THEY MOVE AROUND, OR IF THEY SAY 
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ON THEIR APPLICATION OR, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE IN ONE OF THESE FIVE PLACES, CAN YOU ALL FIND THEM AND KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN AND ONE OF THOSE FIVE PLACES? OR IS IT BETTER FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN A FOOD TRUCK PARK OR THEY'RE IN ONE SPECIFIC PARKING LOT ON BROADWAY? WHAT WORKS FOR Y'ALL? WELL, THE EASIEST WAY WOULD BE FOR SURE IF THEY WERE JUST ONE LOCATION WHERE THEY'D HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHERE THEY MIGHT BE. 
          THE REALITY IS FOR THEM, THEY NEED TO BE HAVE THE LUXURY OF BEING ABLE TO GO TO WHERE THE BUSINESS IS IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS EASY, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BETTER FOR THE FOOD TRUCK INDUSTRY. 
          MAYBE GIVE THEM AN OPTION IF YOU WANT TO ONLY BE IN ONE PLACE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOOD TRUCKS, THEY JUST WANT TO BE IN ONE PLACE. 
          IT'S ONE FEE, BUT IF YOU WANT A MULTIPLE LOCATION, PLACE AND CHARGE THEM MORE FOR THE CONVENIENCE, [INAUDIBLE] MOVE AROUND. 
          BUT EITHER WAY, AS LONG AS WE HAVE AN UPDATED LIST OF THE FOOD TRUCKS, AND IF THOSE THAT HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS THAT'S ON THE LIST, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OR NOT. 
          OK, AND... 
          I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT AND BUTCH CLARIFY IF I'M WRONG, I MEAN, THERE ARE CERTAIN PLACES WHERE FOOD TRUCKS JUST SHOULDN'T BE, AND SO THEY SHOULD KNOW NOT TO BE IN THAT LOCATION. OR IS IT POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE THEM A LIST OF PLACES WHERE NO FOOD TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED IN THIS SECTION OR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT? I THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE AS WELL. 
          WE'VE DONE THAT WITH OTHER THINGS, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT I THINK DANIEL HAD BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL LOCATIONS THAT THEY ARE PROHIBITED. AND I THINK IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE A MULTIPLE LOCATION APPROACH, THEN ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS THEY WANT TO BE AT MUST BE APPROVED PRIOR TO THEM BEING ALLOWED TO DO THAT. SO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT LOCATION OR NOT. 
          YEAH, AND IF I COULD INTERJECT REAL REALLY QUICK, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE GREEN ZONE MAP, WHICH WOULD BE JUST, YOU KNOW, COMBINING THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT PERMIT FOOD TRUCKS INTO ONE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AREA THAT'S PRETTY EASY FOR OUR GIS FOLKS TO DO. 
          BUT YEAH, I MEAN, FROM PLANNING STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, IF I'M REVIEWING A FOOD TRUCK PERMIT AND I HAVE ONE LEASE AGREEMENT, WELL, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MORE WORK FOR ME TO REVIEW TWO OTHER LEASE AGREEMENTS FOR TWO OTHER LOCATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND CHECK THEM ALL. SO IT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS. 
          SO, SO MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR PAYING X AMOUNT TO HAVE JUST A FOOD TRUCK PERMIT AND THEN MAYBE IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE AROUND TO, THEN YOU JUST PAY AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT FOR THOSE THREE LOCATIONS. MAYBE OR MAYBE THERE'S... 
          I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE MYSELF, BUT WHATEVER STAFF WANTS IS I'M GOOD WITH. 
          OR MAYBE YOU PAY X AMOUNT FOR A STATIONARY LICENSE AND Y AMOUNT FOR A MOBILE LICENSE. 
          CORRECT, BUT THE MOBILE LOCATIONS HAVE TO BE PRE-APPROVED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE THAT THEY CAN'T BE RIGHT. 
          THE MOBILE LOCATIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THAT GREEN ZONE MAP, RIGHT? SORRY, THIS IS CATHERINE, THE THERE ARE REGULATIONS ABOUT DISTANCE FROM OTHER BUSINESSES DISTANCE FROM BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS, FOR INSTANCE, AND DISTANCES FROM RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, SO I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF THE LOCATIONS WERE LISTED ON THEIR PERMIT RATHER THAN THEY CAN GO EVERYWHERE ON THIS GREEN ZONE MAP. 
          AND I AGREE. 
          THAT WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE THERE, SO WE HAVE TO REVIEW THE LEASES. 
          OK, SO SO WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO WE THINK IS REASONABLE ON THAT? WOULD IT BE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE? WOULD IT BE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ONE LOCATION THAT YOU WOULD BE YOUR MAIN, YOUR MAIN LOCATION, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THREE OTHER LOCATIONS OR FIVE OTHER LOCATIONS, AND YOU WOULD PAY ONE AMOUNT IF YOU WANTED ONE LOCATION AND ANOTHER AMOUNT IF YOU WANTED UP TO FIVE OTHER LOCATIONS. 
          HOW WOULD YOU THINK WOULD BE REASONABLE TO STRUCTURE THAT BE THE FEE STRUCTURE? I MEAN, I THINK THAT DANIEL CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS. 
          BUT I MEAN, STAFF MAKES THESE FEE STRUCTURE TYPES OF THINGS ALL THE TIME, DEPENDING UPON THE TIME THAT'S SPENT REVIEWING THE APPLICATION, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          SO I THINK IN TERMS OF FEE STRUCTURE, STAFF CAN HANDLE THAT. 
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I MEAN, STAFF WOULD JUST HAVE TO DETERMINE UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC FROM THE COMMISSION, THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT MAYBE ABOVE A CERTAIN FEE, OR THEY WANT IT AT LEAST A CERTAIN FEE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS COUNTER THAT OR AGREE WITH THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER HUMPHREY, I'M SORRY, DONNA. 
          YEAH, NO I WAS GOING TO SAY I BUT I THINK A FEE STRUCTURE IS SOMETHING STAFF IS USED TO DOING AND CAPABLE OF DOING. 
          COMMISSIONER HUMPHREY. WELL, WE'RE TALKING NOW. 
          WE'VE GONE FROM TALKING ABOUT SITE LOCATIONS TO FEE STRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          HOW ABOUT WE STICK WITH WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW SITE VARIABLE SITE LOCATIONS OR NOT, FROM MY INPUT I WOULD LIKE THEM TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO MOVE DIFFERENT SITE LOCATIONS PREDICATED ON WHAT MR. STROUD WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          WE GOT TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHICH LOCATIONS ARE GOING TO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO JOB SITES, YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO HIT THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE BEING PUT UP AND THEY WANT TO CATCH THE WORKERS AT LUNCHTIME HERE AND HERE, THEN THAT COULD BE PREAPPROVED. AND THEN YOU'D KNOW SO. 
          SO THE FEE STRUCTURE THING, I'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON THE FEE STRUCTURE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS ON TO GET THE SITE STRUCTURE, THE SITE LOCATION ISSUE TAKEN CARE OF. OK, GOOD, THANK YOU. 
          WAY TO KEEP ME FOCUSED. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO THEN LET ME PUSH THAT SITE LOCATION QUESTION THEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI REAL QUICKLY. WHAT KIND OF PULSE ARE YOU GETTING OR ARE YOU GETTING ANY PULSE FROM COUNCIL AS TO? WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE? DO THEY WANT TO TRY AND MOVE US INTO A FOOD PART DIRECTION, DO THEY WANT TO ALLOW THOSE FREE STANDING ONE MAN OPERATIONS TO STAY? WHAT? WHAT KIND OF A VIBE ARE YOU GETTING? I'M SORRY, I LOST CONNECTIVITY THERE FOR A MINUTE, SO I HAD TO SWITCH MY IPAD, SO I MISSED SOME OF THAT PRESENTATION, BUT THE I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A GOOD FEELING ON THE VIBE FROM COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, ON WHETHER THEY WANT ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          I MEAN, THIS DISCUSSION DEFINITELY GOT BROUGHT UP BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS HARDER FOR SOMEONE TO OPERATE A FOOD PARK THAN IT WAS A STANDALONE FOOD TRUCK IN THAT DISCUSSION. I THINK THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DIDN'T REALLY LIKE WHAT THEY'VE SEEN AROUND TOWN, WHERE WE JUST HAVE THESE FOOD TRUCKS RENTING SOME SPACE AND A GAS STATION PARKING LOT AND IN OPEN THEM SHOP. 
          SO I MEAN, I CAN ONLY GIVE YOU MY OPINION ON WHAT I THINK THE THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT, AND THAT WAS TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE OR AT LEAST MAKE IT MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR PEOPLE TO OPEN A FOOD PARK, THEN FOR THESE VENDORS JUST TO GO OUT ON THEIR OWN, RENT SOME SPACE IN A PARKING LOT AND SET UP SHOP. 
          HOPE THAT HELPS. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF I NECESSARILY WANT TO GET RID OF THE STANDALONE FOOD TRUCKS AROUND TOWN. 
          BUT AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A FOOD PARK WHERE THESE TRUCKS CAN CONSOLIDATE. 
          AND HAVE A HAVE A NICER ESTABLISHMENT THAN JUST THE STANDALONE OPERATIONS THAT WE WERE SEEING AROUND TOWN. 
          OK. ALL RIGHT. 
          YES, SIR BOB. YEAH. 
          I ALSO LOST CONNECTIVITY, SO I MISSED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. 
          BUT I DO RECALL IT WORKS ALL THE VENDORS THERE. 
          WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FEE AND THE WAY THAT THE FOOD NETWORK OPERATORS WORKED. AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE THAT HAD THAT OPERATE A FOOD TRUCK, PARKS AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL OPERATORS THERE. 
          AND THEY'RE FEELING THERE, THAT I WROTE DOWN WAS THAT THEY WOULDN'T MIND THE $500 FEE IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO GO WHERE THEY WANTED, KNOW AS LONG AS THEY MET ALL OF THE CRITERIA AND THE REGULAR CRITERIA, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE NATURE OF A FOOD. 
          WELL, SOLAR FLARES. 
          SO I GOT OUT OF THAT MEETING THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND AS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AND THAT WAS KIND OF PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE $500 FEE. 
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AS LONG AS THEY COULD MOVE AROUND AND AS LONG AS THEY KNEW WHERE THEY HAD TO BE. 
          AND AS LONG AS THEY UNDERSTOOD ALL THE RULES AND EVERYBODY PLAYED BY THE RULES, THEY WERE OK WITH THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND AND MAYBE WHAT WE DO IS TRY TO GUYS LIKE JOHN WAS SAYING. 
          SEE, JOHN, THIS IS LIKE HOW IT IS WITH YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, I SAID ALWAYS USE MY IPAD BECAUSE MY CELL SERVICE ON MY IPAD IS GREAT, BUT MY INTERNET SERVICE IN MY OFFICE IS TERRIBLE. 
          SO OK BOB. 
          CAN I ADD TO THAT WHAT BOB WAS SAYING? SURE. I THINK IF I WAS A FOOD TRUCK OWNER, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS POSSIBLE. BUT I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE REGULATION KIND OF STARTED IS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACTUALLY REGULATE THESE FOOD TRUCKS BACK WHEN THIS FIRST WENT IN PLACE. 
          AND I COULD BE WRONG ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE REGULATIONS FRONT BACK, BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT IS ALLOWED AT ALL RIGHT NOW. 
          YOU CANNOT MOVE AROUND. 
          YOU CAN'T JUST PULL UP. 
          AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHERE THIS REGULATION CAME FROM. 
          PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN BACK THEN. 
          AND I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN, EITHER, BECAUSE IT GETS VERY HARD TO START ACTUALLY REGULATING THESE BUSINESSES IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO PULL UP. 
          AND THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT THE RESTAURATEURS REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IS THAT A FOOD TRUCK PULL UP OUTSIDE OF YOUR BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANT AND START SERVING FOOD, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE OVERHEAD OR THE FEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH, YOU KNOW, BRICK AND MORTAR TYPE OPERATION. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PITFALLS THAT COULD COME ALONG WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING A LITTLE MORE MOBILE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT CATHERINE WAS TALKING ABOUT, TOO. 
          STEPHEN, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. 
          WHAT ABOUT MOVING FROM LIKE FOR FOOD PARK TO FOOD PARK? AND THEN THAT WOULD INCENTIVIZE A FOOD PARK OWNER TO TO HAVE THAT MOVEMENT OR THE FOOD PART, THE FOOD TRUCK AS WELL, TO HAVE THAT MOVEMENT FROM PARK TO PARK. 
          BUT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN CONTROL AS TO WHERE THAT PARK IS LOCATED. 
          WELL, SEE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE, TOO, I MEAN, THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO BE AT A FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING IN DOWNTOWN ONE WEEKEND, BUT WANTS TO BE OUT ON THE WEST END, WHERE THERE'S A HUGE, YOU KNOW, FAMILY WEEKEND CROWD THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW THAT TOO, MY WHOLE DEAL THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOOD, IT'S A FOOD TRUCK, IT'S A CONCESSION, IT'S A MOBILE VENDOR. WHY ARE THESE THINGS SITTING IN A PARKING LOT, NOT EVER MOVING? THEY DON'T EVER MOVE. 
          WHAT'S THE POINT? I KNOW THAT. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          I WOULD RATHER THESE THINGS IF THEY ARE A MOBILE OPERATION. 
          LET'S LET THEM MOVE. 
          YOU KNOW, LET'S LET THEM GO WHEREVER THEY NEED TO GO. 
          DANIEL AND DANIEL, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. 
          YES. YEAH, I WANT TO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO MENTION, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BOB HAD MENTIONED, THAT WE ALSO HAVE THIS ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A $1000 CONCESSION PARK FEE AND WE HAVE A $500 CONCESSION FEE. 
          AND IN, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE HAS TO PULL A CONCESSION CONCESSION PARK FOR YOU TO PAY $1000 AND THEN PEOPLE COME TO THEIR PARKS, THEY CERTAINLY DON'T ABSORB THAT COST THEMSELVES. THEY PASS IT ON TO THE LESSEE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, THE FOOD TRUCKS. 
          SO IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THESE FOOD TRUCKS ARE GETTING BASICALLY DOUBLE CHARGED. 
          SO I THINK THAT PLAYS INTO THIS DISCUSSION OF WAS THAT THE INTENTION? I THINK ONCE AGAIN, JEFF ANTONELLI HAD MENTIONED WHEN HE WAS ON COMMISSION THAT HE DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT BEING THE INTENT. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER JUST TO MAKE THINGS EVEN MORE COMPLEX FOR YOU ALL. YEAH, WHEN WE WHEN WE GET TO FEES, BUT STAN WILL TELL US STAY OFF OF FEES FOR NOW. STAY OFF OF FEES AND STAY ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT THESE THINGS TO MOVE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          AND DANIEL, LET'S WE DO NEED TO GET TO THAT AND HOW WE WANT TO STRUCTURE OUR FEES. 
          YES, JOHN PAUL COUNCIL MEMBER YES. 
          WELL, DEFINITELY. I WANT TO WANT TO SPEAK TO THE FEES WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. 
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BUT I'LL WAIT ON THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS THAT CURRENTLY A FOOD TRUCK CANNOT OPERATE IN A CITY RIGHT OF WAY, I BELIEVE, AND AND SO THEY'RE FORCED TO FIND A PIECE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY TO ACTUALLY PULL ON AND OPERATE OUT OF. 
          AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MOBILITY ARE WE STILL WANTING TO KEEP THAT WHERE THEY HAVE TO OPERATE ON A PIECE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY? I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          I MEAN, I THINK IT SHOULD BE CHANGED. 
          BUT THAT'S ME. 
          TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE IN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY? YES, BUT I MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          MEAN I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE IN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY. 
          NOW IF I INVITE THEM TO COME TO MY HOUSE TO SERVE FOOD FOR A PARTY AT MY HOUSE, THEY CAN BE IN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY. 
          BUT IF AND IF I INVITE THEM TO COME PARK IN FRONT OF MY BUSINESS, THEY CAN BE IN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY. IS THAT CORRECT DANIEL? UH, THE WAY IT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW, THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED TO OPERATE FROM A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IN ANY MANNER. 
          AND YOU KNOW, BUTCH MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT MY MY GUESS IS IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE. YOU HAVE THE TRUCK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          YOU KNOW THAT CLEARS UP SOME POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH PEDESTRIANS WALKING, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THE TRAFFIC WITH VEHICLES TRYING TO PARK NEARBY AND WHATEVER. 
          SO I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT ALLOWING THEM TO OPERATE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. 
          YEAH. AND AGAIN, WE'RE VEERING OFF OF OUR MULTIPLE LOCATIONS QUESTION THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STAY ON RIGHT NOW. 
          SO BUT GO AHEAD BOB. 
          YOU KNOW, THE ICE CREAM TRUCK GUY ALWAYS OPERATES IN THE CITY RIGHT OF AWAY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T KNOW HOW. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT HE'S A SEPARATE SET OF RULES SOMEHOW. 
          YES AND I UM, HE... 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THAT IF WE WANTED TO GO THERE, SOMEHOW IT COULD BE THAT WE ALLOW AN OPERATOR IN THE CITY OF RIGHT AWAY UNDER A TEMPORARY PERMIT, WHICH COULD BE LIKE THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS DOES IT NO MORE THAN ONE WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THE TEMPORARY PERMIT WOULD HAVE A TIME STIPULATION ON IT IF WE WANTED TO GO THERE. 
          RIGHT. AND I HAVE THAT WRITTEN DOWN AS A QUESTION ON MIND. 
          WHY IS THE MOBILE CONCESSION ON THE FROZEN NOVELTIES EXEMPT FROM TRASH RIGHT OF WAY AND THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF IT? BUT THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM... 
          NOBODY'S MORE MOBILE THAN HE IS. 
          RIGHT, THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM EVERYTHING. 
          SO, OK SO LET'S FOCUS. 
          SEE, DANIEL, WE'RE LIKE HERDING CATS. 
          YOU CAN'T GET US TO ANSWER ONE DARN QUESTION. 
          IT'S LIKE TRYING TO NAIL DOWN JELL-O. 
          OK, SO FRIENDS LET'S MAKE LET'S MAKE ONE DECISION TODAY. 
          OK, GO AHEAD BOB. LET ME JUST RESTATE IN PRINCIPLE, I THINK PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CONCESSIONERS NOT LIMITED TO THE PARKS. 
          SOMEHOW NOT LIMITED TO HAVING TO STAY ONLY AT A PARK. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND MORE THAN JUST ONLY AT A PARK. 
          I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND WE SHOULD WE SHOULD HAVE TEMPORARY PERMITS FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT COME UP ARE TIME BOUND BY A WEEK OR 14 DAYS, NO MORE THAN 14 DAYS. 
          OK, WELL, LET'S TAKE THEM AS ONE AT A TIME AND RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU AGREE. 
          RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO FOOD PARKS ONLY. 
          OK RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD...WE'LL JUST SAY EVERYBODY AGREED TO THAT. OK, THANK YOU, DONNA. 
          THANK YOU, DONNA. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO ONE SINGLE LOCATION, [INAUDIBLE] I MEAN FOOD TRUCK PARK OR WHEREVER. 
          WHAT'S THAT AGAIN? SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          THAT ONE SINGLE LOCATION, WHETHER IT'S A FOOD TRUCK PARK OR A PARKING LOT OR WHEREVER, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE LIMITED TO JUST ONE SINGLE LOCATION UNLESS THEY CHOOSE THAT. 
          OK, MOBILE. 
          YEAH, THAT THEY CAN BE MOBILE. 
          RIGHT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THAT WAS THAT WAS ALL FOUR OF US AGREED ON THAT. 
          SO WHAT I'M SEEING DANIEL FROM THIS IS THAT WE WANT TO ALLOW CONCESSIONS TO BE MOBILE AND TO MOVE AROUND IN WHATEVER WE DO GOING FORWARD. 
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WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO ELECT TO OPERATE IN A FOOD TRUCK PARK IF THEY WANT TO. 
          TO OPERATE IN A FOOD TRUCK PARK ONE DAY AND TO OPERATE MOBILE THE NEXT DAY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, COMMISSIONERS? THAT'S RIGHT. YES. 
          I'M SEEING NODDING HEADS FROM EVERYBODY. 
          SO WE AND AND A THUMBS UP. 
          SO WHAT I WANT, WHAT I. 
          SO ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT? RAISE YOUR HAND IF IF WE AGREE, YES, ALL HANDS ARE RAISED. 
          SO WE WANT TO GIVE OUR FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS FLEXIBILITY. 
          SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO DO WHEN WE DO THAT IS MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE AS PART OF THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS. 
          SO WE NEED TO DO THAT EITHER WITH A RED ZONE-GREEN ZONE MAP, WHICH IS NOT THE PREFERENCE, IS THAT CORRECT, CATHERINE? WE WOULD RATHER SEE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS ON AN APPLICATION, IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND JUST AS A, YOU KNOW, AN ASIDE, THE CODE REVIEW WE DID OF OTHER CITIES WAY BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, MOST CITIES DO REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT A CAP ON HOW MANY LOCATIONS YOU CAN HAVE AND THEY REQUIRE THAT YOU PROVIDE A SCHEDULE. 
          YOU KNOW, MONDAY, TUESDAY, I'M GOING TO BE AT THIS SITE WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY. 
          I'M GOING TO BE AT THIS SITE, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, WHATEVER. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT THERE AS WELL, THAT WE CERTAINLY COULD HANDLE IT THAT WAY AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE LIMITED TO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SITES YOU CAN BE AT AND WE DO WANT A SCHEDULE TO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AT ON ANY GIVEN DAY IN TIME. 
          YEAH, OK. 
          IT WAS MENTIONED OF THAT FORTY EIGHT HOUR ADVANCE NOTICE. 
          YES. AND I THINK THAT THAT  NEEDS TO BE, HOWEVER MUCH NOTICE THE MARSHAL, THE CITY MARSHALS DEPARTMENT SAYS THEY NEED ON THAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE IT CAN BE LIKE THE BLOCK OF SO AND SO TO SO AND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN EXACT ADDRESS WHERE THEY ARE. 
          IF THAT SUITS THE MARSHALS DEPARTMENT, TOO, SINCE THEY ARE A MOBILE UNIT. 
          WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD MAKE OUR APPLICATION PROCESS BECAUSE AS CURRENTLY THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THEY'RE SET UP ON TO BE THERE. 
          IF YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO UTILIZE CITY CURB PARKING, THAT'S TAKING AWAY VALUABLE PARKING, WHICH IS AT A RESTRICTED NUMBER ALREADY. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE CITY HAS ANY PLACE THAT WOULD HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE. 
          AND I MEAN, I ONLY I CAN'T THINK OF IS UP ON THE SEAWALL AND THE FREE PARKING AREAS, BUT I STILL THINK WHATEVER AREAS ARE GOING TO BE PARKED AT, WE NEED TO HAVE ON A THEIR SCHEDULE SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT AND MAKE SURE IT'S WITHIN THE AREAS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO BE IN. 
          IF I IF I COULD KIND OF ADD ONTO THAT, IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT IF WE CONTINUE WITH THE REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, MOST LIKELY, ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL SAY, SURE, YOU CAN BE ON MY PROPERTY, GIVE ME MONEY. 
          AND SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BE IN FIVE PLACES AND THEY'RE PAYING FIVE LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH FIVE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THEIR BUSINESS? SO IT MAY LIMIT ITSELF JUST BASED ON, YOU KNOW, ECONOMICS THAT FOOD TRUCK OWNERS MAY NOT WANT TO PAY, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT LEASE AGREEMENTS TO THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN. SO IT MAY ACTUALLY LIMIT ITSELF AS WELL IF WE KEEP THEM AS BEING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY ONLY. I WILL THROW THIS LITTLE MONKEY WRENCH IN THE WORKS WE'VE HAD WHEN WE STARTED THE VALET PARKING ISSUE. 
          WE CALCULATED HOW MUCH A PARKING SPOT WAS A DAILY RATE, HOW MUCH THE CITY WOULD MAKE BASED ON THAT. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE TO SAY IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PARK AND USE TWO CITY PARKING SPACES, SO TO SPEAK, THE LENGTH OF THEIR TRUCK TO CALCULATE THAT INTO THE FEE STRUCTURE? AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FEE STRUCTURE, BUT AT LEAST THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY 
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TO SAY THEY HAVEN'T LOST PARKING REVENUE BECAUSE IT'S CAPTURED IN THE IN THE FEE IF THEY WANT THAT MOBILE TYPE OF. 
          JOHN'S HANDS WENT UP ALREADY. 
          I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS RIGHT OF WAY AND PARKING ISSUE IS GOING TO BE A BIG COUNCIL ISSUE. SO YES, I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAY, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          WELL, I MEAN, LETTING THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY IS GOING TO IT'S GOING TO CAUSE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES. 
          I MEAN, THAT IS A HUGE DISCUSSION RIGHT THERE WHEN IT COMES TO A COUNCIL LEVEL, AND I CAN DEFINITELY BRING THAT TO COUNCIL AND GET SOME INPUT ON THAT. 
          THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, AND IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO OPERATE IN AN A RIGHT OF WAY, ESPECIALLY WHERE THERE'S PAID PARKING, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PARKING. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THEIR FEE STRUCTURE. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE IF THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO TAKE UP THOSE PARKING SPACES. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN THE METER. 
          SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ISSUE, REALLY, THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PARKING. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING BE ABLE TO PARK THERE FOR FREE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO INCLUDE IT IN A, YOU KNOW, FEE AND A PERMIT FEE FOR THE PARKING. BUT DONNA MIGHT... 
          NO, THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND STAND CORRECTED, HELLO. 
          AND CONSIDERATION WITH THAT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A FOOD TRUCK, YOU HAVE PEOPLE AROUND IT. 
          AND IF YOU'RE IN A RIGHT OF WAY, THERE'S POSSIBLY GOING TO BE STANDING AROUND IT IN THE ROADWAY. AND YEAH, THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. 
          NO, WE ALSO KNOW WE ALSO CHARGED THE LICENSE TO USE RIGHT AWAY FOR ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, BUT THAT'S MORE OF A PERMANENT TYPE OF SITUATION. 
          WE CHARGE TEMPORARY LICENSES RIGHT AWAY OR PERMANENT. 
          BUT EVEN A TEMPORARY LICENSE TO USE IS NOT LIKE, I MEAN, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. 
          IF A FOOD TRUCK WANTED TO, THEY COULD APPLY FOR THAT IF WE ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE IN THERE. SO THERE'S ALREADY CITY'S LIABILITY FOR, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY TRIP AND FALL IN THAT OPERATION THAT JUST THE CITY'S LIABLE FOR THAT. 
          MAYBE THE FOOD TRUCK, IF THEY HAVE INSURANCE AND THEY SHOULD CARRY INSURANCE. 
          DON'T WE ASK THEM TO TO SHOW THAT DANIEL TO SHOW PROOF OF INSURANCE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF INSURANCE THEY HAVE, IF IT'S A SELF-PROPELLED VEHICLE, YOU KNOW THAT MOVES UNDER ITS OWN POWER, THE MOTOR VEHICLE INSURANCE, YOU KNOW THAT THE DPS REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, TO OPERATE THE VEHICLE SUFFICES. 
          IF IT'S A TRAILER, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL LIABILITY POLICY WITH A MINIMUM OF $1. 
          WELL, IT'S A MINIMUM OF $300000 FOR NO. 
          ONE RIGHTS, THOUGH, SO IT'S REALLY A MINIMUM OF A MILLION DOLLAR COVERAGE AND THE CITY OF GALVESTON IS NAMED AS A CERTIFICATE HOLDER. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. AND MAYBE I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS INCORRECTLY, BUT WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT A FOOD TRUCK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ABOUT IT OPERATING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR A VERY SHORT, VERY LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME, A COUPLE OF HOURS, AND THEN IT MOVES ON. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE SEEN FOOD TRUCKS DO IS PULL INTO AN AREA, SERVE THE LUNCH CROWD AND THEN MOVE OUT. 
          SO IF WE ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE CAN PUT A TIME LIMIT ON THAT IF WE WANT TO. I MEAN, WE CAN WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AN LTU BOB, WE CAN PUT A TINY WE CAN PUT A TWO HOUR TIME LIMIT ON IT. 
          THEY CAN COME IN AND SERVE THEIR LUNCH CROWD AND THEN BOLT. 
          SO, I MEAN, IF YOU THINK COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI, THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PALATABLE TO COUNCIL. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO BE AND THEY COULD NOT BE NEAR A BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANT. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY WEREN'T STEALING SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS. YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH COUNCIL, AND IF WE TAKE A STEP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK, YOU KNOW, FOR A MINUTE, IS IT REALLY, DO WE REALLY NEED THAT ABILITY FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS TO OPERATE IN THOSE PLACES? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY OF THESE RIGHT NOW WHEN THIS WHEN THIS ORDINANCE WAS FIRST KIND OF CONTEMPLATED, THERE WAS LIKE THIS BIG SCARE. 
          IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WE WERE GETTING ALL THESE FOOD TRUCKS INTO TOWN AND THEN IT WAS GOING TO TAKE BUSINESS AWAY FROM THE BRICK AND MORTAR. 
          AND WE PUT THESE REGULATIONS IN PLACE. 
          AND I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE OF REGULATIONS THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          AND SO DO WE REALLY WANT DO WE NEED IT? DO WE HAVE A NEED FOR THESE FOOD TRUCKS TO MOVE AROUND TO BE IN PLACES TO SERVE FOOD AT 
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LUNCH THAT DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA? SO I MEAN, ARE WE A BIT SPINNING OUR WHEELS HERE IN GOING DOWN THAT ROAD? I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I THINK IT DEFINITELY WORTH THE CONVERSATION, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING IT. I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GIVE THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY AND SEE WHERE, SEE WHERE THEY WANT TO GO ON THIS ISLAND. 
          I THINK WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOGTIED THEM AND NOT LET THEM DO VERY MUCH AT ALL, AND WE'VE ENDED UP WITH THIS BLIGHT. YEAH. 
          WELL, YEAH, I HEAR YOU THERE, ANYWAY, STAN, GO AHEAD AND THEN I WANT TO MOVE US INTO SINCE WE'VE RESOLVED NOTHING AND WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE TO GO INTO OUR MEETING. 
          I WANT I WANT TO TRY AND TALK ABOUT SCHEDULING. 
          GO AHEAD, STAN. WELL, SORRY, JOHN PAUL, I DISAGREE. 
          I THINK I THINK THEY NEED TO HAVE THE FREEDOM MOVEMENT, NOT ONLY FOR THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO MAKE A PROFIT, BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE SOME SERVICES AND SOME PLACES THAT ARE LIMITED IN SCOPE AS TO WHAT THEY CAN HAVE AROUND THAT AREA. 
          SECONDLY, THE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD IRONCLAD THAT BEFORE WE START THE MEETING. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE PRETTY GOOD. 
          JUST LET'S JUST JUST SAY THAT IF YOU IF YOU LIMIT THEM, I THINK YOU'RE JUST GOING, YOU'RE MAKING A MINI CONCESSION PART FOR ONE. 
          AND I JUST THINK THAT KIND OF LIMITS THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE MONEY AND ELIMINATE LIMITS TO PEOPLE ABILITY TO GET SOME FOOD. 
          SO MY TWO CENTS. 
          AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVING THE FLEXIBILITY TO EITHER, AS WE SAID EARLIER, FOOD PARK GREAT. BUT THEN AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN A FOOD PARK AND WHO ARE WILLING TO PUT THAT MONEY INTO RESTROOMS AND AMENITIES IN A FOOD PARK. 
          AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT TIME. 
          LET'S GO IN SINCE WE'VE GOT JUST A FEW MINUTES UNTIL WE GO INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING. 
          SCHEDULING QUESTIONS, REAL QUICK. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI. 
          ARE WE GOING TO TRY AND ATTACK THIS AND NAIL SOMETHING DOWN, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REAL DIFFICULT TO GET SOMETHING DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR BETWEEN GETTING US TO TIE IT DOWN AND COUNCIL TO TIE IT DOWN, GET IT DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          GET CHANGES DONE BEFORE MARDI GRAS COMES ON BOARD, THOUGHTS? WELL, I THINK I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOMETHING BEFORE MARDI GRAS. 
          AND WHY DON'T WHY DON'T WE SO WE OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT A MEETING NEXT WEEK, WHICH I DON'T THINK I CAN GET IT ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THAT, FOR THAT MEETING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PRETTY PACKED. I'M HAPPY TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING AND JUST HAVE A 15 MINUTE DISCUSSION WITH THEM. 
          AND MAYBE I CAN GIVE IT TO JEFFREY AND JUST GET KIND OF SOME HIGHLIGHT SOME SOME BULLET POINTS TO GO OVER WITH THEM AND THEN SEE WHICH DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GO. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME NEW MEMBERS ON COUNCIL AND THEY HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS. 
          THEY HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS SINCE THEY'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. 
          SO MAYBE I CAN GET SOME MORE INPUT FROM THEM AND THEN LET ME BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AND SEE IF WE CAN HAMMER SOMETHING, SOMETHING OUT. 
          I WILL SAY ONE MORE THING REAL QUICK ABOUT THE FOOD COURT AND THE FEE SCHEDULE. 
          I AM ALL FOR ELIMINATING THE FEE FOR A FOOD PART. 
          I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A FEE ANYWAY. 
          I THINK THE FEE THAT THE TRUCK PAYS THEMSELVES IS PLENTY, AND THAT'S THE ONLY PERMITTING THAT THE TRUCK NEEDS TO GET TO HAVE. 
          THE PARK I DID LIKE I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOING THE ELDER ROUTE WITH THE ACTUAL PARK ITSELF, WHERE THERE'S JUST SOME KIND OF LIMITED USES OR CRITERIA THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE. 
          AND IF THEY HAVE IT IN PLACE, THEN A FOOD TRUCK CAN PULL ON THEIR PROPERTY AND SERVE FOOD SO. OUTDOOR VENUES SORT OF. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO, AND I THINK THAT'S HOW SOME OF THESE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BARS AROUND TOWN THAT ARE KIND OF HAD TO DEAL WITH COVID AND SO THEY BROUGHT FOOD ON THEIR PROPERTY VIA A FOOD TRUCK. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT BAR OR ESTABLISHMENT HAD TO PAY A FEE TO HAVE THAT FOOD TRUCK THERE. 
          THE FOOD TRUCK JUST PAID THEIR FOOD TRUCK FEE CAME ON, CAME ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE OWNER'S AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL AND STARTED SERVING FOOD. 
          AND SO I SEE THE SAME THING HAPPENING WITH A FOOD PARK. 
          BECAUSE IT JUST GETS PASSED THROUGH ANYWAY TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY PAYING THE FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS BASICALLY, RIGHT? WELL, I MEAN, THE THOUSAND DOLLAR FEE JUST GOES AWAY. 
          THE FOOD TRUCK PAYS THEIR $500 FEE AND THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE LDRS. 
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RIGHT. 
          OK, BOB, I SAW YOUR HAND UP. 
          YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IF DANIEL CAN SEND US THAT POWERPOINT WITH HIS LIST OF QUESTIONS ON IT, OR IF ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT WE COULD REVIEW THOSE, SEND HIM OUR THOUGHTS ON THOSE QUESTIONS AND SEND THEM BACK. 
          SO THEN NEXT TIME WE DO THIS, WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE GROUND [INAUDIBLE] AND I HAVE MY THOUGHTS ON HIS QUESTIONS, BUT WE DIDN'T GET TO IT. 
          OK, GREAT. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. 
          AND THEN I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE BY THE TIME WE GET, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE A WORKSHOP TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GRIND THROUGH THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME TO GRIND THROUGH IT. 
          AND SO DO Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE BEFORE OUR NOVEMBER 2ND MEETING? WE WON'T HAVE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL YET, BUT WE CAN PROBABLY GET OUR GET MORE QUESTIONS TOGETHER FOR COUNCIL. 
          IS THAT GOOD WITH YOU COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI? GOOD WITH ME. OK, GOOD. 
          MR. COUNCILMAN, COMMISSIONER HUMPHREY. 
          CAN WE, WHAT IF WE PROPOSE WE KIND OF NARROW IT DOWN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE QUESTIONS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE STUCK ON ONE OR TWO ISSUES. 
          MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO ADDRESS LIKE TAKE THEM TWO OR THREE ISSUES AT A TIME. 
          PUT A TIME FRAME ON IT AND SAY, OK, WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION WE NEED TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AND WALK AND THEN GO TO THE NEXT ISSUE AND WALK. 
          OK. THE ONES THAT I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD PROBABLY NARROW DOWN THE MOST EASILY WERE THE SPECIFIC OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS. 
          ONE THRU SIX. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I HAD HOPED WE WE WOULD TACKLE AND OOPS, WE DIDN'T. 
          SO HOW ABOUT IF WE TRY TO, BUT LET'S TRY TO ALL LOOK AT OUR ANSWERS, HOW WE WOULD ANSWER SPECIFIC OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS ON THE LIST. 
          ONE THROUGH SIX AND CONSOLIDATE OUR ANSWERS. 
          SEND THEM IN TO DANIEL, AND THEN LET'S CONCENTRATE ON THOSE AND ALSO SUMMARIZE ANY THOUGHTS YOU HAVE ON THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TODAY... 
          ON DANIEL'S REPORT. 
          ON DANIEL'S, IT WAS THE ATTACHMENT ON THE THE AGENDA TODAY. 
          IT WAS HIS STAFF QUESTIONS THAT WAS A PART OF THE AGENDA TODAY. 
          OH, I'M NOT SURE I GOT THAT. 
          DANIEL, WILL YOU RESEND THAT TO EVERYBODY PLEASE, SIR? OH, CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT DOES ANYBODY NEED A COUPLE OF MINUTES OR CAN WE JUST KIND OF MOVE DIRECTLY INTO OUR OTHER MEETING? ANYBODY NEED A CAFFEINE JOLT, CAFFEINE HIT OR ANYTHING? I MEAN, I KNOW WE ALL PROBABLY NEED IT, BUT. 
          OK, GREAT. I'LL TAKE IT WELL. 
          PARDON. I'LL TAKE IT. 
          OK, THEN WE'LL ADJOURN. 
          THE WORKSHOP WILL TAKE TWO MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.