[1. DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL MEETING TO ORDER] [00:00:07] AND I AM OFFICIALLY GOING TO CALL THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 17TH. WELCOME TO EVERYONE THAT'S HERE TODAY. WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS LISTOWSKI AND SCHUSTER THAT ARE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, AND WE ALSO HAVE MEMBERS OF STAFF HERE AND ANY THOSE WELCOME TO THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEETING. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. JANELLE, IF WE COULD DO ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR BROWN, PRESENT, MAYOR PRO TEM COLLINS, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER SCHUSTER, I'M HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER QUIROGA, PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER ROBB, HERE AND COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI IS NOT ON THE LINE YET. CAN YOU PUT THEM UP LIKE [INAUDIBLE]. THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IT ON THEIR END. HUH? THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IT ON THEIR END; THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR VIDEO GOING. I HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT THAT'D BEEN ALREADY SCHEDULED THAT I COULDN'T REALLY GET OUT OF, BUT THIS WAS THE ONLY WAY I COULD JOIN. SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM. ARE WE GOING TO WAIT A FEW MINUTES FOR JOHN PAUL? WELL, IS JOHN PAUL ON? HE'S NOT. NO. OK, WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD. GETTING BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN ROBB'S QUESTION, GETTING COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER TO APPEAR ON THE SCREEN. DOES HE HAVE TO HANDLE THAT FROM HIS END? HE MAY JUST BE ON HIS PHONE, SO HE MAY NOT. WILLIAM, YOU'RE ON THE PHONE? I HAVE MINE OFF. I CAN HEAR YOU. I'M CURRENTLY WALKING RIGHT NOW, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL MOTION SICK. OK. AS SOON AS I REACH A STOPPING POINT, I'LL PUT MY CAMERA ON. THANK YOU, WILLIAM; APPRECIATE IT. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ITEM THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. [3. PUBLIC COMMENT] IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC OTHER THAN STAFF AND GALVESTON DAILY NEWS IN THE AUDIENCE. SO DO NOT HAVE A RESPONSE THERE OR IS THERE ANYONE VIRTUALLY ATTENDING, JANELLE, THAT'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? UM, IF ANYONE ON THE ZOOM CALL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AT THIS TIME. THROUGH THE CHAT ROOM? NO, THERE'S NO ONE. WOULD YOU CALL JUST MAKE SURE, JANELLE. WOULD YOU ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE--HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING? THREE. CAN WE TURN THOSE THREE ON AND ASK IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE, MA'AM? IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN DO SO AT THIS TIME. THIS IS [INAUDIBLE]. I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE MEETING'S OVER IF THAT'S OKAY. [INAUDIBLE]. STEPHANIE, THE WAY THE AGENDA'S STRUCTURE, THERE WILL NOT BE A CHANCE FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. WELL, I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DISCHARGE, WHEN DID IT OCCUR? WAS THE PUBLIC NOTIFIED AND WHAT MEASURES ARE TAKING PLACE TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEM? HOW MANY [INAUDIBLE] GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO [INAUDIBLE]. YES, I WOULD ASSUME SO. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, STEPHANIE? NOT AT ALL. I WISH I COULD BE THERE, THOUGH. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NO RESPONSE, WE ARE MOVING TO OUR ACTION ITEMS. [4.A. Discuss And Consider For Action An Investigation Under The City Charter "Section 5, Investigation Powers Of The Council" In Response To The Discharge Of Raw Sewage Into The Waterways Known As The Lake Madeline Area And Heards Lane. (Quiroga/Robb)] OUR ONLY ITEM TODAY ON THIS AGENDA. JANELLE, IF YOU COULD READ ACTION ITEM 4A, PLEASE. 4A, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR ACTION AN INVESTIGATION UNDER THE CITY CHARTER. SECTION FIVE INVESTIGATION POWERS OF THE COUNCIL IN RESPONSE TO THE DISCHARGE OF RAW SEWAGE INTO THE WATERWAYS KNOWN AS THE LAKE MADELINE AREA AND HEARDS LANE. GOOD, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA BY COUNCILMAN QUIROGA AND COUNCILWOMAN ROBB AS THE CHARTER ALLOWS FOR TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CALL FOR A SPECIAL MEETING. [00:05:08] THERE WILL BE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT COMING UP HERE SHORTLY. BUT GO AHEAD. BILL, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. I'M GOING TO SINCE YOU WERE KIND OF WANTING THIS ON THE AGENDA, I'M GOING TO LET YOU MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION. OK, THANK YOU. I THINK THE BEST WAY TO START HERE IS TO THROW OUT THE CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT LED UP TO THIS MEETING. AND JANELLE, IF YOU CAN SHOW THAT FIRST VIDEO. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DOUBLE CLICK ON IT, I BELIEVE. LET'S GO TO THE FIRST ONE AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL GO TO THIS ONE HERE. WELL, THAT WASN'T THE FIRST ONE. OK, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PAUSE THAT? OK, THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO CALL THIS, I WAS VERY CONCERNED AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE LIKE THE YOUNG LADY THAT TALKED EARLIER, THE TIME SEQUENCE WHEN THESE EVENTS HAPPENED. AND THAT WAS SENT TO ME BY AN EX EMPLOYEE WHO WAS VERY DISTRAUGHT. HE WASN'T TERMINATED. HE QUIT, BUT HE WAS VERY UPSET WHEN HE READ THE ARTICLE THAT WAS IN THE PAPER ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO. NOW, HE EXPLAINED TO ME, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION FROM WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM STAFF AND WHAT WE GOT FROM THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT TURNED IN ALL THESE PHOTOGRAPHS. HE DID TELL ME THAT EVERY ONE OF THE PICTURES AND EVERYTHING WAS TURNED OVER TO STAFF AS HE TOOK IT. SO MR. [INAUDIBLE], I GUESS, HAS IT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. COOK HAS IT OR MR. MAXWELL, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WENT UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. I DON'T KNOW. BUT ACCORDING TO HIM, THIS WAS HIT BY THE VENDOR AND BECAUSE OF THE RAW SEWAGE THAT WAS BEING PUT OUT, CREATED A SINKHOLE. NOW, I TALKED TO MR. MAXWELL, I BELIEVE IT WAS YESTERDAY, WAS IT, BRIAN, ABOUT THE DEPTH? FRIDAY. ABOUT THE DEPTH OF THAT PARTICULAR HOLE? I TALKED TO THE EMPLOYEE IN QUESTION AND HE SAYS IT'S AROUND CLOSE TO 40 FOOT DEEP. AND TALKING WITH MAXWELL, HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT DEEP. AND WHEN I TALKED TO THE EMPLOYEE, HE SAID, WELL, GO BACK TO THE VENDOR. THE VENDOR CAN TELL YOU WHEN IT WAS HIT BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE THAT BORE HOLE. AND WHEN THEY HIT IT, THEY STOPPED. SO IF YOU ROLL FORWARD, YOU CAN SEE THE SEWAGE COMING UP FROM THE GROUND. SO THIS WAS A BIG CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. YOU HAVE CHILDREN OUT THERE. YOU HAVE ADULTS THAT HAVE BOATS. AND THE REASON WHY THIS WAS CAPTURED IS THE GENTLEMAN STANDING THERE, THE TIDES OUT. SO WHEN THE TIDES IN, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT. NOW, IF YOU NOTICE THE CONCRETE RIGHT BELOW THERE, ACCORDING TO THE EMPLOYEE, THAT IS THE SINKHOLE IS GETTING BIGGER AND IT'S SLIDING INTO IT. SO THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST MAIN CONCERN FOR SAFETY. PLUS THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTION BEING DISCHARGED WHEN WE HAVE PANDEMIC OF COVID-19, IT'S GOING TO COMPLICATE PROBLEMS. WE NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. WAS THE HOLE COVERED? I DON'T KNOW. THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED. AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY I CALLED THIS MEETING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP AND SOLVE A PROBLEM, BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. THAT WAS DATED, I ASSUME, MAY 15TH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE WERE NOTIFIED, CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS DATED. THAT'S WE WERE NOTIFIED ON THE 15TH OF 2020. EXCUSE ME, LET ME GO AHEAD AND FINISH AND THEN YOU CAN--LET'S LET COUNCILMAN QUIROGA IF [00:10:01] YOU WOULDN'T MIND. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT PHOTOGRAPH. I MEAN, THE NEXT VIDEO, I'M SORRY. NOW, THIS IS A DISCHARGE. THAT IS COMING ALL THE WAY FROM 74TH ST. ALL THE WAY TO JONES DRIVE. SO IF YOU SEE THE RATE OF DISCHARGE GOING INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM, THAT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE BEING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING INTO THE SEWER HERE. NOW, THE BLACK HOLES THAT YOU SEE THERE, THAT IS ALSO COMING FROM 74 STREET. IT IS COVERED UP NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S BEEN THERE. I WASN'T TOLD OTHER THAN IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A SERIES OF MONTHS. I DID ASK, WAS THERE THE SEWAGE BEING STOPPED? WELL, WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE EMPLOYEE THEY PUT IN TWO CUT OFF VALVES, BUT THEY'RE THE WRONG CUT OFF VALVES AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT'S LEAKING. SO THAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME. SO WE HAVE THIS ONE PERSON SAYING THIS ONE THING, WHETHER YOU WANT TO CALL HIM DISGRUNTLED OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE CAN LOOK INTO IT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE CITY STAFF SAYING EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT THIS ITEM HERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SO WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION. DO WE NEED IN THIS CASE, I WOULD SAY, DO WE NEED A CO SO WE CAN GET THE MONEYS APPROPRIATE TO STOP THIS? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN LEAKING FOR OVER A YEAR NOW AND NOW IT'S GETTING--NO, IT HASN'T. OK, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD. I WAS TOLD BY ME WHEN I WAS MAKING INQUIRIES WITH THE VENDOR. SO WE NEED TO QUESTION THE VENDOR. I WAS TOLD THAT THEIR MIGHT HAVE BEEN A POSSIBILITY OF A THIRD PARTY THAT DID THE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF MONEY. AND LIKE I SAID, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT HERE IN STAGES, WHETHER IT'S PRIOR TO THE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN OR THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THAT WAS IN HERE TO MAKE THAT DECISION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MONEYS APPROPRIATED FOR IT. MONIES ARE APPROPRIATED FOR IT NOW. IT'S BEING FIXED. TO GET IT FIXED? YEAH. IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DONE. ABOVE AND BEYOND THE BREAKAGE. NOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT WAS MID-APRIL, I MEAN, MAY THAT THIS WAS NOW THE EMPLOYEE SAID IT WAS HIT SOMEWHERE AROUND NOVEMBER 9TH. I DON'T KNOW. NO. OK, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND THAT'S WHETHER WE DO IT HERE. NOVEMBER 9TH WHEN? NOVEMBER 9TH, 2020. AND IT WAS HIT MAY 15TH, 2020? I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BRIAN, WE'RE GOING HE SAID SHE SAID, I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I REALLY DON'T KNOW. BUT, YOU KNOW--TRINO, ARE YOU ONLINE? WELL, LET ME FINISH IF I CAN, AND THEN WE'LL GO ON. OK, LET'S LET COUNCILMAN QUIROGA FINISH. GO AHEAD, BILL. SO, WHILE LOOKING INTO THIS, WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE SAYING THAT THE STENCH AT TIMES WAS FOUL OUT THERE AND I MEET SO MANY PEOPLE. I SHOULD HAVE GOT THEIR NAMES AND ALL, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW THEM, BUT THEY KNOW ME BECAUSE THEY KNOW I SIT ON THE COUNCIL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO FINALLY STOP IT. DO WE NEED TO STOP AND REPAIR? IN THE NEWSPAPER HERE, IT SAYS YOU PUT A SLEEVE IN IT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING. IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT NOW. YES, SIR. SO IN OTHER WORDS, BASICALLY WHAT HE TOLD ME WAS YOU DO HAVE TWO CUT OFFS ON EACH END, ON THE EAST AND WEST END. BRANDON, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. WERE THEY THE CORRECT VALVES? [INAUDIBLE] ARE THEY THE CORRECT VALVES? I'M SORRY, I'M STRUGGLING TO HEAR YOU ON THE COMPUTER. [INAUDIBLE] THE FIRST VIDEO THAT WAS SHOWN [INAUDIBLE]. THAT VIDEO WAS TAKEN MID-WINTER. THAT WAS NOT TAKEN DURING [INAUDIBLE]. DURING THAT TIME. [INAUDIBLE] WHEN THE TIDE WENT LOW, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THE SINKHOLE. THE SINKHOLE IS ONLY A FEW FEET IN DEPTH. [00:15:02] THE SEWER LINE ITSELF IS ACTUALLY 42 FEET DEEP, BUT THE SINKHOLE IS ONLY A FEW FEET IN DEPTH. THE REASON IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS SEWAGE COMING OUT IS BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TROUBLESHOOT AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT [INAUDIBLE]. SO WE TURNED THE LIFT STATION ON FOR A BRIEF MOMENT JUST TO SEE IF WE WOULD SEE ANY REACTION COMING UP FROM THAT HOLE, LIKE ANY BUBBLE, ANY ANY--WE CAPTURED ENOUGH TO SHOW THAT SOME BUBBLES OF AIR WERE COMING OUT AND POTENTIALLY SOME LIQUID. WE WENT AHEAD AND WE SHUT DOWN. WE [INAUDIBLE] UP ON THAT [INAUDIBLE]. WE DID THAT OVER A PERIOD OF ONE TO FIVE MINUTE. [INAUDIBLE] SEE IS THAT LINE HAD ACTUALLY GOTTEN HIT [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE INVESTING SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO THIS REPAIR. PRIOR TO THAT DAY, WE WERE UNABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT WOULD [INAUDIBLE] LINE OR THAT LINE THAT WAS HIT. IN THE SECOND VIDEO THAT IS SHOWN IS THE BYPASS AND WE HAVE GOING DIRECTLY INTO A SANITARY SEWER MANHOLE WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT FLOW. AND IT GOES A DIFFERENT PATH DOWN [INAUDIBLE] THE AIRPORT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WHERE IT'S TREATED PROPERLY. THAT'S COMING FROM THE LIFT STATION ON 74TH AND HEARDS DOWN THE BYPASS AND PLUNGED INTO THE MANHOLE. THANK YOU, TRINO. NO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BILL FINISH HIS PRESENTATION. AGAIN, THESE ARE CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS MADE BY A FORMER EMPLOYEE THAT LEFT AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY HE LEFT IS HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN [INAUDIBLE]. WHETHER IT IS OR NOT, [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH, OR IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT HE WOULDN'T GET HIS LICENSE LIKE HE WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. IF THE CONTRACTOR HIT, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT OUR MAIN PURPOSE IS GETTING IT FIXED, BILL, WE WILL WORK THAT OUT. THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO GET ACCOMPLISHED, THAT WE'RE ON TOP OF THIS, TO GET IT FIXED. YES, SIR. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT I DON'T EVEN KNOW [INAUDIBLE] SEWAGE [INAUDIBLE] GALLONS LEAKED OUT, BECAUSE WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS TELLING ME [INAUDIBLE] NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL. TRINO, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THE TIMELINE ON--WELL, LET'S FINISH. YEAH. WE'RE GETTING INTO HE SAID SHE SAID THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT FROM AN INDEPENDENT POINT. WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL LICENSED PEOPLE ON STAFF THAT HAVE LOOKED INTO IT. WELL. AND KEEP IN MIND, THIS THE CITY WASN'T PERFORMING THIS WORK, THIS WAS A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR, SO THEY WOULD HAVE LIABILITY, NOT THE CITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BRIAN, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS. [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHY I WANTED AN INDEPENDENT PARTY TO LOOK AT IT. THIS INDIVIDUAL SAID HE WOULD COME FORWARD AND TALK AND SAY EVERYTHING HE KNEW ABOUT THIS PROJECT. YOUR STAFF SAYS THIS, THIS, AND THIS WAS DONE. THAT WAY, THERE'S NO CONFUSION. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY INDIVIDUAL, WHETHER IT'S AN ENGINEERING FIRM, LAW FIRM THAT COULD COME ASK QUESTIONS. THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN MY OPINION. GOING BACK, STAFF TELLING ME ONE THING, INDIVIDUAL TELLING ME A DIFFERENT THING. PEOPLE QUITTING BECAUSE OF HOSTILE ENVIRONMENTS. SO THIS IS WHAT WE NEED [INAUDIBLE]. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S A PERSONNEL ISSUE, BILL, AND YOU AND I HAD THE DISCUSSION. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO AIR THIS PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE'S DIRTY LAUNDRY IN A PUBLIC MEETING. BUT I TOLD YOU WHAT THE ISSUES WERE SURROUNDING THIS EMPLOYEE AND HE CHOSE TO RESIGN IN LIGHT OF OTHER ISSUES. AND WE CAN GO INTO HIS PERSONAL STUFF IN A PUBLIC MEETING. BUT I REALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT TO HIM. YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEES. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. I WANT THE FACTS ON WHAT HAPPENED HERE. WELL, WE HAVE THEM FOR YOU--EXCUSE ME, IF THE INDIVIDUAL HAS A PROBLEM--IS YOUR MIC ON? THE ISSUE IS, IF YOU HAVE A PERSONAL PROBLEM, THAT'S UP TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF, I'M NOT GETTING INTO THAT. I DON'T GET INTO TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO DO IT, OK? ALL I'M SAYING IS THIS IS WHY WE NEED IT TO CLEAR THE AIR UP. THIS WAY, WE KNOW. AND IT'LL BE SHUT DOWN IF WE HAVE THE TRUE FACTS. BUT THE REASON WHY I DON'T WANT THE CITY LOOKING, YEAH, WE MIGHT HAVE PROFESSIONALS. [00:20:05] THAT'S TRUE. I'M NOT REPUDIATING ANY OF WHAT YOU SAID. WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A TOTAL INDEPENDENT TO LOOK AT THIS. THAT WAY WE CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS WE WANT. AND IT'LL COME OUT IN THE WASH, WHETHER IT'S OUR FAULT, WHAT HAPPENED IS IF HE'S TELLING, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IF SOMEBODY IS GIVING US MISINFORMATION, WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE'S MAKING THE CITY LOOK BAD. HE'S MAKING EVERYBODY LOOK BAD. AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF HE DID GIVE MISINFORMATION? EXCUSE ME? WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF IT DID TURN OUT TO BE MISINFORMATION? WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE LEFT UP TO, I GUESS LEGAL MATTERS. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET BACK. BILL, ANY MORE YOU WANTED TO PRESENT, SIR? NO. OK, BRIAN, I WANT TO HAVE YOU AND TRINO NOW RESPOND. CAN I ASK JUST ONE QUESTION? IN REGARDS TO SOMETHING TRINO SAID. OK, GO RIGHT AHEAD. MAYBE BRIAN CAN ANSWER. OK, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. YOU SAID--MARIE COULD YOU PUT YOUR MICROPHONE CLOSER? YOU PUT THE THING IN TO SEE WHETHER IT WAS AN ACTUAL LINE THAT WAS HIT OR A DEADLINE THAT WAS SET. YOU DIDN'T SAY, WAS IT AN ACTUAL LINE THAT WAS HIT. TRINO, THIS IS TO YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? TRINO, SHE'S ASKING, CAN WE VERIFY, WAS THE LINE ACTUALLY HIT. WAS IT A LIVE LINE? ARE YOU ASKING ME, TRINO PEDRAZA? YES, TRINO. OH, I'M SORRY. OUR ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE LINE WAS POTENTIALLY BREACHED. [INAUDIBLE] ALL THE WAY THROUGH. I DO BELIEVE IN MAY HAVE BEEN HIT. WE HAVE NO PROOF. [INAUDIBLE] AT A DIFFERENT TIME, WE BROKE INTO THE LINE ON THE 74TH AND HEARDS LINE. WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO [INAUDIBLE] THE LINE OUT [INAUDIBLE]. WE WERE UNABLE TO STOP WATER [INAUDIBLE]. I MEAN AT A VERY, VERY SLOW RATE, [INAUDIBLE] WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO GET [INAUDIBLE]. OK, LET'S [INAUDIBLE]. WELL, LET'S LET BRIAN AND STAFF RESPOND AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO COUNCIL, IF IT MET YOUR APPROVAL, WE'LL HAVE BRIAN AND STAFF RESPOND. AND THEN BEFORE WE START THIS DISCUSSION, BILL, I WANT YOU TO MAKE YOUR MOTION, IF YOU WOULD, SIR, SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT FORWARD. AND WE'LL GET A SECOND TO THAT AND THEN WE'LL START THE DISCUSSIONS HERE. IF I MAY, CAN I MODIFY IT? WHEN WE GET TO THAT, YES, SIR, BY ALL MEANS, SURELY. BRIAN, GO AHEAD. TRINO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OK, OUR TIMELINE DIFFERS GREATLY FROM THE DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEE IN THAT WE HAD WE WERE REPORTED OF THE HIT ON MAY 15TH. I WAS NOTIFIED OF IT, I KNOW, ON MAY 15TH. AND WE HAD NO SIGNS OF SPILLAGE OR OVERFLOW AT THAT TIME. TRINO, WHAT THEY DID, WE PUT THE DYE IN THE SYSTEM. SO, IF I MAY JUST DISCUSS THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS, IT WAS AN ODD PERIOD OF EVENTS. ON MAY 15TH, FRIDAY YOU GOT A CALL LATE IN THE AFTERNOON [INAUDIBLE] APPROXIMATELY 3:00, AND CONTRACTOR INDICATED HE HIT SOMETHING AND HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE'D HIT. ON THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, FELT LIKE HE SAW A DIFFERENT MUDDY SUBSTANCE [INAUDIBLE]. WITH NO OVERFLOW OCCURRING [INAUDIBLE][INAUDIBLE] DECIDED TO LEAVE THE DRILL HEAD AND DRILL BIT IN PLACE. AND WE ASKED OUR GUYS TO COME IN THE VERY NEXT DAY TO MONITOR [INAUDIBLE]. THEY MONITORED THE LIFT STATION AND THEY SPENT MOST OF THE DAY SETTING UP A WHOLE BYPASS. [00:25:01] THERE WAS NO SIGN OF ANY KIND OF OVERFLOW. THE [INAUDIBLE] MORNING CREW CAME IN AND THEY RENEWED THEIR INVESTIGATION [INAUDIBLE]. AT THAT WE [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] GOT IT RUNNING. VERY NEXT MORNING ON MONDAY, THERE WAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF DISCHARGE COMING OUT. IT ACTUALLY BORE A HOLE INTO THE BORE PIT OVERFLOWING THE BORING PIT [INAUDIBLE]. WE CAPTURED A LARGE AMOUNT OF FLOW DURING THAT TIME AND THEN. WE WERE TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT [INAUDIBLE] BYPASS [INAUDIBLE] SUSTAINING ALL THE FLOW [INAUDIBLE] LOOK AT DIFFERENT SCHEMATICS AROUND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, WHAT WERE WE MISSING, WE REALIZED THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE [INAUDIBLE] WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO [INAUDIBLE] MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY TO INSTALL TWO [INAUDIBLE]. AUTHORIZATION GRANTED WHEN [INAUDIBLE] TO ACTUALLY [INAUDIBLE] DURING THAT TIME, [INAUDIBLE] GOT PREPARED AND [INAUDIBLE] JUST MAGICALLY STOPPED, AND AT THAT POINT, EVERYBODY PAUSED BECAUSE IT SHOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED. THE LIFT STATION [INAUDIBLE] WASTEWATER TREATMENT [INAUDIBLE]. WE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD STOP. SO WE BEGAN TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AND TROUBLESHOOT, AND AT THAT POINT, WE DECIDED TO PURCHASE DYE, AND PLACE A LARGE OF DYE INTO THE LIFT STATION, [INAUDIBLE] BYPASS [INAUDIBLE]. THE LIFE STATION, OUR GOAL WAS TO [INAUDIBLE] THAT DYE COMING OUT OF [INAUDIBLE] GREEN DYE FLOATING AROUND THE LAKE. BUT IT NEVER CAME OUT AND THE PLANT TURNED GREEN, SO AT THAT POINT, WE DECIDED TO GO AND STOP THAT EXERCISE [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE] ONCE WE HAD THE VALVE INSTALLED, WE DECIDED, LET'S TRY [INAUDIBLE]. LIKE, WHEN YOU OPEN THE VALVE [INAUDIBLE] TO INCREASE THE PRESSURE, THE PIPE WOULD FORCE SOMETHING OUT. THAT WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL [INAUDIBLE]. AT THE END OF THAT, WE DECIDED [INAUDIBLE] CLOSE THE VALVE, THERE WOULD BE NO BACKFLOW COMING FROM THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND WE LEFT THE BYPASS [INAUDIBLE]. THAT WOULD BE THE INITIAL FEW DAYS. SO FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, WE'VE BEEN RUNNING ON THE BYPASS, THERE SHOULD BE NO ACTIVITY IN THE LINE. I KNOW YOU KEEP SAYING [INAUDIBLE] WE CANNOT FIND THEM IF YOU'RE PRIVY TO THESE LEAKS, I WOULD WISH YOU WOULD HAVE TOLD US SOONER IF, YOU KNOW, CAN POINT AS TO WHERE IT IS. ARE YOU PRIVY TO A CURRENT LEAK? BECAUSE WE ARE NOT. ALL I'VE BEEN TOLD, IS YOUR INCORRECT VALVES, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IT COULD LEAK. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE AN EXTERNAL INVESTIGATION SO WE KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS WERE, WHY DID YOU MISS THEM? SO ON AND SO FORTH. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION GO AHEAD, TRINO. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IN REGARDS TO [INAUDIBLE] LEAKING, IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT STEPS, WE ARE PLANNING TO GPS THAT PIPE INFORMATION FROM THE INSIDE. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT FROM FEBRUARY 4TH UNDER THE BAYOU [INAUDIBLE] WE NEED THAT [00:30:06] INFORMATION TO REDRAW ON THE PIPELINE, THE WATER PIPELINE [INAUDIBLE]. DURING THAT EXERCISE, WE INSTALLED AN EXTENSION VALVE CLOSER TO THE PLANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE BE NOTHING LEAKING. TODAY, WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] THAT GOT THERE THAT [INAUDIBLE] PART OF WHAT THEY WERE WANTING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NO PRESSURE AND NO REVERSE FLOW GOING INTO THAT PIPE. I WAS TOLD AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS WEEK THAT THEY MADE THEIR INITIAL [INAUDIBLE] TO THE PIPE [INAUDIBLE] THE PRESSURE AND THEY WERE CONFIDENT [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE]. YES, WE USED GPS COORDINATES AND THAT'S WHERE THE DISPUTE IS GOING TO COME IN WITH THE CONTRACTOR. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DRILLING AT 43 FEET, CORRECT, TRINO? BORING AT 43 FEET? THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DRILLING AT APPROXIMATELY 32 FEET. AND THEN OUR LINE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THAT DEEP. I THINK THEY HIT IT, THEY HIT IT BACK ON THE UPSLOPE. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE BOTTOM OF THIS THING IS WE DID HIT A SEWER LINE BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE TWO VALVES ON IT, PLUS A SLEEVE. SO EVEN THOUGH WE COULD NEVER PRODUCE A LEAK, THAT'S TRUE, WE TOOK THAT AS A BELT AND SUSPENDERS CASE. YES, SIR. WE DON'T FOOL AROUND WITH SEWER LEAKS. ALL RIGHT, WE HAD COUNCILMAN COMMENTS BEFORE YOU COUNCILWOMAN ROBB, BUT BILL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION YOU WANT TO MAKE FOR THIS? EXCUSE ME? DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. WELL, LET'S HAVE--I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DISCUSSIONS NOT KNOWING WHAT BILL'S MOTION IS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR FOR BILL, GO RIGHT AHEAD. WELL, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. COUNCILMAN COLLINS WAS FIRST. MR. MAXWELL, TCEQ WAS NOTIFIED OF THIS? CORRECT. WHAT WAS THEIR COMMENT? TRINO, TCEQ'S INVOLVEMENT? TRINO, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WHAT WAS TCEQ'S RESPONSE TO YOUR REPORT? WHAT TCEQ'S RESPONSE TO THE OVERFLOW, WAS THAT THE QUESTION? YES, WHAT YOU REPORTED TO THEM, YES. THERE WAS REALLY NO RESPONSE. WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] COMMUNICATION WITH TCEQ DURING ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY NEGATIVE EVENT OR NONCOMPLIANCE EVENT. OUR REP IS [INAUDIBLE] AND SO WHEN WE HAVE ANY KIND OF UNAUTHORIZED DISCHARGE OR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW, WE CALL IT IN. IF THERE'S SOMETHING SEVERE LIKE THIS, WE LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND ESPECIALLY FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THEY WERE ONLY CONCERNED WITH THE FACT THAT WE SUBMITTED THE UNAUTHORIZED DISCHARGE FORMS AND THAT WE THAT WE ISSUED A PUBLIC NOTICE AND THAT AT SOME POINT, WE HAD TO SEND PICTURES OF THE ACTUAL NEWSPAPER THAT HAD THE PUBLIC NOTICE, AND THAT THEY COULD SEE THAT WE FOLLOWED THE STEPS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW. THEIR ONLY OTHER CONCERN AFTER THAT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BYPASSING AND JUST KEEP THEM INFORMED OF WHAT THE FUTURE FIX WOULD BE. AND THEY'VE BEEN BACK OUT TO THE SITE SINCE THIS, CORRECT? SAY THAT AGAIN. TCEQ HAS BEEN BACK OUT ON THE SITE SINCE THIS OCCURRED, CORRECT? WE'VE BEEN OUT TO THE SITE MANY TIMES FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT REASONS. WE HAVE OR CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF OUR INVESTIGATION. WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE BYPASS THAT WE SET UP DURING 74TH, THAT AT ONE POINT THERE WAS VANDALISM AND THAT THE PIPE HAVE BEEN PURPOSELY OPENED AND PUNCTURED. WE ALSO HAD SOME BREAKAGES ON THAT BYPASS THAT WE HAD TO CORRECT, WHICH IS WHY WE ENDED UP PUTTING IT UNDERGROUND, SO THAT IT WOULD BE OUT OF SITE. BUT MY QUESTION, TRINO, TRINO, IS TCEQ HAS BEEN BACK OUT TO THE SITE, CORRECT? YEAH. SO, TCEQ, ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO OR SO, HAD GONE UP TO THE SITE. YOU KNOW, THEY SHOWED UP UNANNOUNCED, THEY WENT AND WALKED THE ENTIRE SITE. [00:35:04] THEY LOOKED AT ALL THE BORE PIT, THE DEWATERING PIT THEY DIDN'T SEE WHAT THEY FELT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. SO THEY ENDED UP SPEAKING TO OUR INSPECTOR. THEY CALLED OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT SUPERINTENDENT. AND THEN THEY CALLED ME WE HAD A ONE HOUR CONVERSATION AND I EXPLAINED WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE. AT THE END OF IT, THEY HAD ME SUBMIT THEM OUR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW INITIATIVE FORM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT ONE, THAT PARTICULAR GENTLEMAN DIDN'T HAVE THE FILE AND THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY IT, HE HAD [INAUDIBLE] SUBMIT SOME OF THE OLD FORMS THAT WE HAD SENT TO THEM AND [INAUDIBLE] THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WAS SATISFIED AND I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM SINCE. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. EXCUSE ME, DAVID. IT'S 2:34 P.M. COUNCILMAN. LISTOWSKI HAS JOINED THE COUNCIL MEETING. GO RIGHT AHEAD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE, AS TCEQ HAS NOT BEEN BACK TO US, CLEARLY THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED THAT THERE'S SOME ONGOING ISSUE HERE. WOULD THAT BE FAIR TO SAY? IT'S FAIR TO SAY. SECOND, TRINO USED THE WORD SEVERE, WAS IT A SEVERE LEAK OR POTENTIALLY SEVERE, WHICH IS WHY TCEQ WAS ENGAGED FROM THE GET GO. IT WAS DEEMED TO BE A POTENTIALLY SEVERELY BECAUSE WE NEVER KNEW AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE LINE WAS WHETHER IT WAS AN ACTIVE LINE THAT WAS HIT OR AN OLD LINE THAT WAS HIT OR HOW MUCH WAS SPILLED. WE REPORTED IT AT THE MAXIMUM LEVEL, UH, OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. SO THAT WAY THE NOTIFICATIONS WOULD BE AS SUCH. BUT THEN, TRINO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'VE DONE TESTING OUT THERE SINCE THEN. CORRECT. IN THE CHANNEL? WE HAVE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE, DURING THE INITIAL HIT, WE DID A LOT OF LAB TESTING ON THE LAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT [INAUDIBLE] AND THE BIOCHEMICAL OXYGEN DEMAND AND [INAUDIBLE] NUMBERS WERE ON NORMAL. WE DID THAT. WE TOOK SEVERAL TESTS. AND THEN WHEN IT WAS NORMAL, WE LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT IT WAS [INAUDIBLE] SAFELY BACK IN THE WATER AND WE HAVEN'T TESTED THE LAKE SINCE THAT INITIAL EVENT. ALL RIGHT, LAST QUESTION, THE WORD VANDALISM WAS USED, WHAT WERE WE REFERRING TO? ON THE BYPASS LINE, ACTUALLY, THE EMPLOYEE THAT MR. QUIROGA HAS BEEN SPEAKING WITH REPORTED TO US THAT THE LINE HAD BEEN VANDALIZED AND HE SUSPECTED ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ALONG THE STREET HAD VANDALIZED IT BECAUSE THEY WERE UPSET THAT THE LINE WAS BEING RUN THERE. WE NEVER APPROVED IT. WE NEVER PURSUED THAT. WE REPAIRED THE LINE AND ACTUALLY WE PUT THE LINE UNDERGROUND AT THAT POINT. WHAT WAS THE NET RESULT OF THE VANDALISM? THERE WAS A SMALL SPILL THAT I THINK WE CLEANED UP. WASN'T IT, TRINO? TRINO, WHAT WAS THE NET RESULT OF THE VANDALISM? WAS THERE A SPILL AS A RESULT? TRINO, WHEN THE LINE WAS VANDALIZED, WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THE VANDALISM TO INCLUDE LIKE THERE WAS HOLES PUNCTURED AND WE REPLACED THE SECTION OF HOME? BUT WE CLEANED IT UP CORRECT AND CORRECT, AND IT DIDN'T IT DIDN'T IT DIDN'T CAUSE ANYTHING. THERE WAS AN OVERFLOW THAT WAS REPORTED THAT WE WENT OUT AND WE [INAUDIBLE] WE COULDN'T [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU. MARIE. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS, SO WE WERE ELECTED IN NOVEMBER, AND SINCE BEING ELECTED, I HAVE RECEIVED MULTIPLE EMAILS FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I'VE FORWARDED TO BRIAN, REFERRING TO SEWAGE, SEWAGE SMELLS, STUFF IN THE PARKING LOT AND SO FORTH. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT PUTS A NOVEMBER MARK ON IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T COME IN TILL THE END OF NOVEMBER. WHAT THE EXACT TIMELINE IS. AND THEN I'M ONE OF THOSE GEEKY PEOPLE THAT GET THE GLOS REPORT EACH WEEK. THEY SEND IT OUT THAT THEY TEST THE BEACH AND THE BAY SIDE. AND THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THE BAY SIDE HAS HAD FECAL CONTENT REPORTED. SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW OFTEN ARE WE TESTING THAT SITE NOW JUST AS A SAFETY FACTOR? AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, IS I DON'T REMEMBER THE PUBLIC BEING NOTIFIED OF A SEWAGE LEAK SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE. AND IF I'M GETTING EMAILS FROM PEOPLE AND JOHN AND I, WELL JOHN MAY NOT BE CONFUSED, BUT [00:40:05] SOME TIMES CONFUSED AS TO WHAT PART OF THAT AREA IS MY DISTRICT OR HIS, SO I JUST FORWARD FORWARDED THE EMAILS TO BRIAN. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD ANY SPILLS OR OVERFLOWS IN THAT AREA SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN OFFICE. OK, SO THAT'S BUT I'VE HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT SMELLS. THAT OCCURS WITH THAT LIFT STATION FROM TIME TO TIME. IT OCCURRED BEFORE THE PROJECT EVER STARTED. AND I'VE SEEN GLO REPORTS OF HIGH FECAL CONTENT, SO USUALLY THAT OCCURS AFTER HEAVY RAIN EVENTS WHEN EVERYTHING DRAINS INTO THE BAY. OK, THAT WAS MY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, BILL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. YES, SIR, I. I NEED TO GET A LITTLE CLOSER. I AGREE WITH MR. PEDRAZA THAT IN A WAY, THE SINKHOLE, HE'S SAYING, IS 10 FEET. EVERYBODY ELSE IS TELLING ME IT'S DEEPER THAN THAT, BUT THAT'S I'M A HOLD THAT ON THE SIDE. BUT THE DISCHARGE IN THEIR APARTMENTS IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, BECAUSE I HAD WHEN I WAS OUT THERE, I HAD COMPLAINTS OF WHY ISN'T THE CITY TAKING CARE OF THIS PROBLEM? ANOTHER PERSON SAID, HEY, IT'S NOT THE CITY'S PROBLEM, IT'S THE APARTMENTS PROBLEM. SO I DON'T. BUT MR. PEDRAZA ELATED TO THAT, THAT YOU DID HAVE SEWAGE IN THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO THE POINT OF VANDALISM. YEAH, THERE SEWER DID BACK UP AND THEY HAD TO WE HAD A PROBLEM OUT THERE, BUT THAT WAS ON THEIR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S CORRECT. I AGREE WITH THAT. SO WHETHER IT WAS CAUSED BY PRESSURE BACKFLOW, I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT INTO THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO. THAT OTHER THING ABOUT THE VANDALISM THAT YOU MENTIONED, I TALKED TO MR. CARTER MR. CARTER, PUT STUFF ON THE INTERNET ABOUT THE LEAKAGE, NOT THE LEAKAGE, BUT [INAUDIBLE] SEWAGE BEING PUT INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM. WOULD YOU READ THE STATEMENT THAT I GAVE YOU THAT MR. KARR PUT DOWN, IF HE CAN READ IT ALL. IT'S THE NEXT PAGE? AND IF YOU CAN PUT THE DATE. BILL, WHAT IS SHE READING FROM, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME. I GOT YOU. OK. FROM JOHN CARTER, OCTOBER 18, 2020, THIS IS RAW SEWER WATER GOING INTO THE STORM DRAIN THAT GOES TO THE BAY. WE'VE AND EVERY TIME WE'VE GOTTEN THOSE COMPLAINTS, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S BEEN DISCHARGED FROM OUR. LET HER FINISH. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. GOT SOME FEEDBACK. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN TWO WEEKS. LAST WEEK, THE NEWSPAPER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. FAKE NEWS. THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. FAKE NEWS. YOU WANT TO READ THAT AGAIN? BECAUSE THE FEEDBACK WAS. THIS IS RAW SEWER WATER GOING INTO THE STORM DRAIN THAT GOES TO THE BAY. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN TWO WEEKS. LAST WEEK, THE NEWSPAPER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. FAKE NEWS. THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. GO AHEAD AND READ THE WHOLE COMMENTS FROM BRIAN MAXWELL, DID YOU CALL SOMEONE OR JUST POST IT? LET ME TAKE CARE OF IT. YOU CALL ME FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT DON'T CALL OR TEXT ABOUT THIS. BRIAN MAXWELL. BY THE WAY, SOMEONE ELSE CALLED AND THEY ARE ALREADY MAKING THE REPAIR. RYAN MAXWELL UPDATE. THE HOSE WAS INTENTIONALLY VANDALIZED. WE WILL BE PULLING CAMERA FOOTAGE TO ASCERTAIN HOW IT HAPPENED. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE VIDEO OF THAT? NO. THE EMPLOYEE IN QUESTION WAS GOING TO PUT SOME GAME CAMERAS UP AND HE NEVER DID. AND ACTUALLY AFTER THAT AND AFTER THAT, WE WERE [INAUDIBLE]. I THOUGHT WE HAD SOME CAMERAS OUT THERE FROM THE CONTRACTOR. THEY DID NOT. BUT WHAT WE DID DO IS WE WENT AT THAT POINT AND PUT THE LINE UNDERGROUND SO IT WOULDN'T GET VANDALIZED ANY FURTHER. SO YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO LET YOU MAKE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR MOTION IS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MODIFY THIS BY GETTING A THIRD PARTY TO DO THE TOTAL INVESTIGATION ON THIS, TO PULL ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED, CITY STAFF, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO COME IN AND MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION, AS WELL AS THE VENDOR THEMSELVES SO THAT WE CAN GET WHEN IT WAS HIT, HOW MUCH THE YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE PREDICT TO SEE WHAT THE AMOUNT OF SEWAGE THAT WAS THROWN INTO THE DISCHARGE INTO THE BAY. IS THAT CLEAR FOR DO WE HAVE THE MOTION CLEAR IN EVERYONE'S MIND, STAFF, JANELLE. [00:45:04] IT'S CALLING FOR I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT FOR THE RECORD, AN INVESTIGATION CALLING IN A OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY, IS THAT RIGHT BILL? THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE UNBIASED AND ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, IS THERE SECOND? ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF SECOND BILL. ALL RIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF I COULD, IN REFERENCE TO THIS. SURE. THAT'D BE FINE. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, SINCE THERE IS QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THERE IS STILL SEWAGE LEAKING OR WHATNOT, IT WOULD AFFECT MY DISTRICT. IT WOULD AFFECT JOHN PAUL'S DISTRICT, THAT THE CITY DO WEEKLY MONITORING FOR FECAL, HOWEVER, YOU WOULD DO THAT FECAL CONTAMINATION. WE TEST IT OVER BY THE PLANT. TRINO, WHAT SHE'S ASKING IS, CAN WE DO THOSE WATER TESTS ON A MORE FREQUENT BASIS, POSSIBLY WEEKLY UNTIL THE PROJECT'S FINISHED? [INAUDIBLE] I KNOW THAT WHAT WE END UP HAVING TO DO TO MAKE [INAUDIBLE] OUT THERE AND GRAB SAMPLES IT'S NOT A NORMAL ACTIVITY FOR THEM. [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE WE KNEW THERE WAS AN OVERFLOW OR AN UNAUTHORIZED DISCHARGE [INAUDIBLE] WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE WATER WAS SAFE. ALSO ADDITION TO THAT, I WANT TO MAKE KNOWN THAT THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN JUST THE NORMAL [INAUDIBLE] THAT GO INTO THE BAYOU VERSUS [INAUDIBLE]. WHY DON'T WE DO THIS MARIE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, LET ME GET THE HEALTH DISTRICT TO CALL YOU AND GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS OF HOW THEY TEST IT AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM. THEY'RE NOT TESTING ON A REGULAR BASIS. NO, BUT MAYBE THEY WILL IF THERE'S A CONCERN, WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO SEE IF THEY'LL HELP US DO IT. THEY HAVE THE BOATS AND THINGS IS THE POINT. BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IF WE HAVE A SITUATION GOING ON THAT WE NEED TO BE MONITORING IT BECAUSE IT IS UNSAFE. AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO CRAB IN LAKE MADELEINE, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO FISH IN LAKE MADELEINE AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO SWIM IN LAKE MADELEINE. MY KIDS SWIM IN IT EVERY YEAR. WE JUST MOVED FROM THERE. SO THEY'VE DONE THAT AND THEY DID IT DURING THIS PERIOD. MAY I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT. WILL, LET ME IF YOU DON'T MIND, DAVID, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION HERE IF WE COULD. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT COUNCIL. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, MAYOR. WE HAVE. I'M SORRY, MARIE. IS THERE A SECOND TO MARIE'S MOTION? HEARING NO REPLY, IT FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT COUNCILMAN QUIROGA GET WITH CITY STAFF, GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT HE HAS AND GET WITH CITY STAFF, LET THEM RESEARCH THIS AND COME BACK AND MAKE A COMPLETE REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL. HAPPY TO DO THAT. HAPPY TO DO THAT. OK, IF IT DOESN'T, I'D RATHER HAVE IT AS A MOTION IF WE COULD. I WILL SECOND THAT. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? YEAH, JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION GIVEN TO ME IS ALREADY PROVIDED TO STAFF. SO HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A CONCLUSION OF HIS FINDINGS OF BECAUSE ALL THE VIDEOS, ALL THE PICTURES WERE GIVEN, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. TRINO, DO YOU HAVE THE VIDEOS THAT MR. HUDSON GAVE TO MR. QUIROGA? [INAUDIBLE] WOW. SO HE WAS USING, USING A PERSONAL PHONE. JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT, HE HE AGAIN, QUOTE UNQUOTE, EVERYTHING THAT I SENT TO YOU MR. QUIROGA I SENT TO STAFF. SO I JUST THIS MOTION I WANTED TO. GO AHEAD. TRINO, GO AHEAD. MAY HAVE IT IN OUR [INAUDIBLE] DISTRIBUTION [INAUDIBLE]. THE REASON I'M MAKING THIS MOTION, THIS IS IN MY OPINION, THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE [00:50:03] THAT NEEDS TO INITIALLY BE DISCUSSED WITH CITY STAFF. AND BRIAN, IF YOU'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. YOU BET, WE'RE HAPPY TOO. I'LL GIVE YOU ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT I CAN. APPRECIATE THAT BILL, I REALLY DO, BECAUSE WE I MEAN, IT'S OUR GOAL TO GET. ABSOLUTELY. MY CONCERN, LIKE I SAID, IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY. WE HAVE CORONA OUT THERE IF SOMEBODY GETS SICK OVER THE FISCAL MATTERS OUT IN THE WATER. IT'S A CONCERN TO OUR CITIZENS. YOU BET. AND DAVID, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. I HAVE TWO QUICK COMMENTS. ONE, WHAT WHAT WE JUST SAID HERE SOUNDS LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE WAS THAT ALL THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO CITY STAFF, CITY STAFF HAS ANALYZED THIS. CITY STAFF HAS BEEN DEALING WITH THIS AND THERE'S NOTHING LEFT, LEFT, UNCOVERED HERE. YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH IT AGAIN? THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND COUNCILMAN QUIROGA. SECONDLY, WHEN WE'RE DOING E. COLI COUNTS OR TSS COUNTS IN THE WATER, LET'S ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU FIND E. COLI IN THE SEAWATER OR IN THE BAY DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE DISCOVERING A SEWAGE LEAK SOMEWHERE ON HEARDS LANE. I MEAN, YOU MAY BE DOING FECAL COUNTS FROM DOG POOP IN DICKINSON. THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING REALLY DISPOSITIVE TO BE LEARNED, I THINK, BY SAMPLING THE WATER IN LAKE MADELINE AND SAYING TO YOURSELF, OH, THERE MUST BE A SEWER LEAK SOMEPLACE. WELL, I THINK IT'S JUST IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITIZENS. AND I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH AND SAFETY, IT'S GOOD TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE MARIE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND SO I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION. BUT LET'S JUST BE CAREFUL WHAT WE THINK THE CONCLUSION FROM DISCOVERING THAT MAY BE. SURE. WELL, IF THEY HIT ANY OF THE DANGER LEVELS, THAT'S THE MAIN THING. NO, IT DOESN'T, BUT. AND THERE HAVE BEEN RED DANGERS ON THE GLO REPORT. AND THAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME, YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY RIVER AND BIO DISCHARGES INTO GALVESTON BAY. SO WE GET THAT FROM EVERYBODY'S SEWER PLANT IN OUR WATER. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, TOO. THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS THROWN AROUND THAT THIS IS KIND OF AN EMERGENCY OR HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE. COUNCILMAN QUIROGA, BROUGHT THIS FORWARD THREE WEEKS AGO TO ME. AND AT THAT TIME WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING WITH CITY STAFF. AND I THINK WITH THE REPORT, BRIAN, IF YOU COULD GIVE A WRITTEN REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL. SURE HAPPY TO. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WILLIAM, ARE YOU VOTING? YES. I VOTE FOR IT YES. TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. ARE YOU VOTING BILL FOR IT. SO THAT IT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. IF YOU DON'T, I JUST WILL ASK ONE THING. IF I CAN GET TRINO ON THE MEND, I'D LIKE TO START ON IT NEXT WEEK. I HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER. I HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER, TRINO. THANK YOU. REMEMBER, TAKE TYLENOL NOT ADVIL. GOOD. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. IT IS 2:53 P.M. WE NOW ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GUYS. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.