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GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING, IT IS 9:00 AM, I'D LIKE TO
[Call to Order]
OFFICIALLY CALL THE WORKSHOP IN ACTION AT A MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER FOR JULY EIGHT. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION COMING UP IF YOU WANT IT TO.FEW WORDS, WE GOT THREE MINUTES FOR YOU TO GIVE SOME INPUT ON TO COUNCILMAN ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNSEL FOR BEING HERE STAFF.
THANK YOU. AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING ON THE CHANNEL 16 AND.
STREAMING DEVICES, WELCOME THIS MORNING, GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
COULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR, DR. BROWN HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROBB PRESIDENT.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I WANTED TO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, I WANTED TO DO TWO THINGS.
ONE IS I WANT TO THANK, UH, I WANT TO WISH, WISH COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER.
CONGRATULATIONS ON HIS NEW MARRIAGE.
HE'S GETTING MARRIED TOMORROW.
WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES VERY HAPPY.
THEY DO, AND I TOLD HIM BY EMAIL YESTERDAY, HE SAID, WELL, I'M THINKING ABOUT COMING INTO THE MEETING ROOM. AND I SAID, IF YOU COME HERE FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR MARRIAGE, I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU HERE. SO.
VERY GOOD. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION JUST WE.
IN OUR CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE HAD AN ACCIDENT YESTERDAY.
SHE'S DOING FINE, BUT ROSE IS OUT.
SO WE SEND OUR BEST TO HER ON THAT.
SO SHE'S DOING SHE'S DOING WELL.
VERY GOOD. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
[3. PUBLIC COMMENT]
THIS IS FOR AGENDA AND NOT AGENDA ITEMS. AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP.YEAH. WE'RE JUST GOING TO GET YOU GO.
I WOULD SAY WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT IT TO THREE MINUTES.
SO IF YOU CAN KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LAUGH, PLEASE, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. AND ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO START OFF.
WE HAVE FIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN TO COUNCIL.
SO, JANELLE, WOULD YOU START WITH THE FIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS AND READ EACH ONE OF THOSE, PLEASE? OK, WE HAVE ONE COMMENT RELATED TO AGENDA ITEM.
I'M GOING TO READ THAT ONE FIRST.
IT'S FROM THE YOUNG GIRL AND IT'S ABOUT THE PART.
STRONGLY OPPOSE ANY CHANGES TO THE CURRENT POLICY.
NO NEED FOR A BREAK LIKE REQUIRING MORE EQUIPMENT, BUT EVERYTHING BREAKING INTO SOAKING THE RICH A REAL PROBLEM ARE NOT THE FAULT, THOUGH, BECAUSE OF THE.
THE NEXT OR WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE AGENDA ITEM, THE FIRST ONE IS FROM JIM.
IS OUR GOLF CART PERMITTED, DRIVEN BY CHILDREN AGES EIGHT TO 12 YEARS OF AGE? I HAVE SEEN THE THIRTY FOUR HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE ON A GO CART FOR THEIR CHILDREN, DRIVING FOR HOURS ON THE STREET FOR THE SERVICE THAT THEY WERE NOT PERMITTED ON THE STREET.
FOR ONE, I AM TOLD, THEY ARE LIMITED BECAUSE THERE IS NO ARGUMENT AGAINST OUR GO CART TO MINUTES ON RESIDENTIAL STREET DRIVEN BY CHILDREN.
NEXT IS FOR MARGO WALTERS, THE SUBJECT OF TRAFFIC.
AND I TALK TO MARIE ROBB ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AT 70 DEWITT AND OLSEN DYBALL.
WE DESPERATELY NEED SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR THOSE TWO AREAS.
WE HAVE ALREADY HAD AN OWNER HERE ON DEWITT.
ALSO, WE NOW HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DOG PARK AND A THIRD STREET.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF HE HAD THE HORSE IN FRONT OF OUR FEET.
THEY HAVE LIGHTS AND THINGS AND IF THEY SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT EXPENSIVE GIFTS FROM THE RESIDENTS THEY CAN AFFORD.
PROBABLY THINK THE SUBJECT ISN'T GOING TO WORK AND HAVE TO.
I'VE CONTACTED BARRY ROBB, JUNE U.S.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND TWENTY TWENTY ONE, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF MILE UP THE ROAD.
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THERE ARE SEVERAL TREES LITTERING THE ROADWAY AND SIGNS FOR THE ECONOMY HERE AND EVERYWHERE. I AM NOT SURE WHY THIS CANNOT GET DOWN AND TIRED OF PAYING HIGH TAXES.THEY CANNOT GET ANY SERVICES OUT ON THE WEST BANK, BROADWAY AND SO ON EVERY WEEK.
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE PRESS CAN NOT TAKE NOTE AT THE LAST MINUTE FROM SLATE IN THE SUBJECT PARKING METERS ON 20TH STREET COUNTY.
WHERE WOULD THAT BE PAID? PARKING DE LA FUENTE A STREET BETWEEN STANDARD HARBORSIDE FOR TWO HOURS.
FREE PARKING IS INADEQUATE AND NOT HELPFUL HAVING YOUR PARKING.
IT WILL ELIMINATE THE CONFUSION PARKED CARS IN FRONT OF THE STORE IN THE 20TH STREET AND IN ABOUT AN HOUR, THE ONLY THING THAT THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET, I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WASN'T INCLUDED WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITHIN FOUR DAYS.
WE WILL NOW OPEN UP TO THOSE IN ATTENDANCE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO START ON THE FIRST ROW HERE ON THE RIGHT.
RON, DID YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? COME ON UP AND IF YOU WOULD, RON.
AND SO YOU CAN GET PICKED UP ON THE CAMERAS ANYWHERE.
GOOD MORNING, KELLY. GOOD MORNING.
MAY I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE UPCOMING DECISION ON ANNUAL FEES FOR SHORT TERM RULES? I'M HOPING I WILL COUNSEL TO BE FAIR, HELPFUL TO THE EQUITABLE, TO THE FEES THAT YOU'RE ARE GOING TO MAKE.
I ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME PERSONAL, MAYBE EVEN POLITICAL BIAS THAT SOME OF COUNSEL I SAW.
I THINK IT WAS A VERY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCILMAN QUIROGA STATE AT THE MEETING THAT HE THOUGHT SHORT TERM WERE AN ILLEGAL BUSINESS.
HE SAID AT ANOTHER MEETING HE THOUGHT THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS WERE TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM HOTELS. I SAW THAT COUNSEL COUNCILMAN ROBB TALK ABOUT HER FRIENDS.
SHORT TERM RENTAL ON THE WEST SIDE MAKES LOTS OF MONEY.
MY ASSUMPTION IS SHE WAS GOING THAT BECAUSE WE MAKE LOTS OF MONEY THAT WE CAN OR SHOULD PAY A HIGH FEE FOR OUR ANNUAL TO OUR RENTALS.
MY SHORT TERM WILL IS NOT ON THE LIST AND IT'S A SMALL PLACE.
I DON'T HAVE AN OCEAN VIEW OF IT SLEEPS FOR IT'S SIMPLE.
SO WE HAVE TO COMPARE DON'T COMPARED JUST TO THE TOP.
MAYBE THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BORN INTO.
WE WERE ALSO RESIDENTS WERE ALSO BUSINESS OWNERS.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT, SUSAN.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I'M SUSAN SILER, LIVE IN THE SANJAK DISTRICT.
HELLO. OH, HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ON THE SAY HAPPY WEDDING TO WILLIAM, BUT I DO HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME.
AND BEFORE YOU SET AN ANNUAL FEE, I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT YOU'LL DETERMINE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE FEE FOR AND GET YOU BACK INTO IT.
SO DON'T JUST PICK A NUMBER FROM SOMEWHERE SO THAT YOU GET A BIG BUNCH OF MONEY AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT BIG BUNCH OF MONEY, DETERMINE WHAT IT IS IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT ON, AND THEN GO BACKWARDS FROM THERE.
SISTER MARY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING FOR ONCE? NO. LET THE RECORD REFLECT WHAT I SAID.
SECOND ROW OR THE THIRD ROW, I GUESS.
IS THERE ANYONE ON THAT ROW WANTS TO SPEAK? VERY GOOD. THE NEXT ROW OVER SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HADN'T SPOKEN? THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. COME ON UP.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SUSAN HUNGAMA, I'M OUT ON THE WEST END OF WAY OUT WEST.
I THINK IT'S REFERRING TO ABOUT 20 MILES FROM HERE.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE GOLF CART ORDINANCE AND WE HAVE A GOLF CART.
ALMOST EVERYONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A GOLF CART.
IN FACT, WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE NINETEEN NINETY THREE.
SO WHEN ARE USED TO THAT DRIVING SAFELY, BUT NEVER HAVE ANY OF OUR GOLF CARTS BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN OR NOT MAINTAIN AT A SPEED OF 35 MILES AN HOUR ON A PAY LEVEL SURFACE.
AND THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND SUBCHAPTER OF TEXAS,
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FIVE FIVE FIVE ONE THREE ONE.SO THAT'S OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE DON'T FALL UNDER THAT DEFINITION AND WE FALL UNDER A GOLF CART DEFINITION, WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE ALL OF THE EXTRA ACCESSORIES THAT YOU HAVE STATED WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU WILL LOOK AT THE LAW AGAIN AND HOW IT REFLECTS ON US.
AND WE'RE NOT THE SAME AS A GOLF CART ON THE HIGHWAY GOLF.
ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN ON THE SEAWALL AND WE DON'T DRIVE ON THE HIGHWAY.
I WOULDN'T DARE GET ON DOUBLE FIVE, HARDLY IN A CAR, BUT MUCH LESS ON THE GOLF CART.
SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT YOU WOULD BE REALISTIC AND REFLECT THE APPROPRIATE AUDIENCE ON THIS. AND I'M ASKING BASED ON THE LAW, NOT JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THOSE TWO COMMENTS I FELT WERE REALLY VALID.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SHORT TERM RENTALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE TRYING TO ABOLISH IT COMPLETELY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY CHANGING OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS.
I MET A WOMAN IN MEXICO A FEW WEEKS AGO WHO WORKED FOR PAGOSA SPRINGS, COLORADO, IN THAT DEPARTMENT OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.
AND SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU LOOK AT THEIR PLAN AND IT VARIED THE FEE, DEPENDING ON A NUMBER OF BEDROOMS, IT GAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON HOW TO REGULATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE PARKING AND SO ON, I THINK WOULD BE A REALLY NICE FRAMEWORK TO START WITH.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT LOVE FOR THE CITY TO TAKE THIS CHALLENGE ON INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO IT IN OUR ON OUR OWN.
THANKS FOR TRAVELING FROM THE OFFICE.
AND IT TOOK ABOUT HALF AN HOUR.
YES, SIR. I'M SUSAN'S HUSBAND, DANIEL.
TWO, TWO, THREE, ONE, EIGHT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I KNOW THAT YOU DO A LOT FOR THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE.
AND CONGRATULATIONS SCHUSTER I WORKED WITH EVEN YEARS AGO.
I'M THE MAINTAINER. THAT GOLF CART THAT'S PARKED AT OUR HOUSE, IT NEVER GOES MORE THAN TWO MILES. I CHIPPED IT TO GO A MAXIMUM OF 18 MILES AN HOUR.
I'VE GOT REGISTERED INSURED LIGHT BRAKES HORN.
I'VE GOT TURN SIGNALS BASED ON TEXAS LAW.
I THINK I'VE GOT A LEGAL GOLF CART.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE IT'S A SLOW MOVING VEHICLE, ACCORDING TO SOME LAWS, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY TWENTY MILES DOWN.
I DID NOT CHIP IT TO GO OVER TWENTY INTENTIONALLY.
TWENTY TO TWENTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR IS CLASSIFIED AS A LOW SPEED VEHICLE.
TWENTY SIX TO THIRTY FIVE TO MEDIUM SPEED.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF THESE THINGS RUNNING AROUND, BUT OURS IS NOT.
AND MOST PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DO NOT HAVE GOLF CARTS CLASSIFIED AS GOLF CARTS THAT GO OVER TWENTY MILES AN HOUR.
SOME DUDE GOT A GASOLINE POWERED MOTORS AND SOME CHIPPED BATTERIES TO GO FASTER.
I DON'T REALLY THINK A GOLF CART SHOULD GO THIRTY MILES AN HOUR.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY BUILT FOR THAT.
SO I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER, PLEASE, THESE RULES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT INTO EFFECT, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE GOT A BIG JOB.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT ARE RUNNING AROUND THE BIKES ARE A WHOLE DEAL UNTO THEMSELVES.
THEY'RE CHALLENGING A ROAD ONE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND YOU GOT THAT THROTTLE THAT THREW ALL THAT STUFF AND WE'VE GOT THERE ON OUR BEACH, WE SEE THEM ALL OVER TOWN.
YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER.
I WISH YOU LUCK, BUT I'D LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION WITH REGARDS TO THE RULES YOU PUT IN EFFECT FOR US. THANK YOU ALL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK HEARING NO RESPONSES.
YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ON THE CALL.
OH, I LIKE TO SEE IT RIGHT THERE.
OH, GOOD. WE HAVE SOMEONE ZOOM THOSE THAT WANT TO SPEAK, DO YOU HAVE THEM ALREADY KEYED UP, JANELLE, AND THEY ARE WAITING FOR THEM TO INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO IN AND NO ONE HAS INDICATED THAT THEY CAN MAYBE POINT OUT WHERE THE REASON IS.
BECAUSE I KNOW. SO WE'VE BEEN USING THEM FOR A WHILE.
ON MY SCREEN, WHEN I LOOK AT THE PROTESTERS ON THE RIGHT AND ON THE RIGHT OF FUTURE IS AT THE BOTTOM. SO CAN WE THEN ASK YOU, YOU KNOW, TO FIND THEM TO RAISE THEIR HAND IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK?
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YOU KNOW, SURE.THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR THINGS AND I DON'T NEED AT ALL FOR.
SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SWANNEGAN.
I SAY ONE THING IN THE MAN SAYS YOU.
ALL RIGHT, THERE'S NO RESPONSE AND NO RESPONSES, CHANEL, NO RESPONSE, OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT, COUNSEL.
I'M GOING TO GET YOUR PERMISSION.
IF I COULD. I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, AND I WANT TO HONOR THEIR TIME, IF WE COULD.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEM FIVE A STATEMENT TO MAKE SURE EXCUSE ME FIVE TO EXCUSE ME. I'D LIKE TO MOVE BY THE AS OUR NEXT ITEM WITH THIS IS A VERY SHORT ITEM.
AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE RESOURCE CRISIS CENTER HERE FOR THAT.
AND SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO MOVE IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM, WHICH IS FOR ME TO FOLLOW THE FIND THE IDOL, SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WANTING TO SPEAK HERE.
ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT? COUNCILWOMAN. ALL RIGHT.
VERY GOOD. LET'S MOVE NOW TO ITEM FIVE BEING GENEL, IF YOU COULD READ THAT, PLEASE.
[5B. Discuss And Consider Approval Of The 2021 Emergency Solutions Grant (ESG) Program Application For The Resource And Crisis Center Of Galveston County, Inc.]
I THINK THAT'S ONE AND THE BRAND NEW PROGRAM APPLICATION FOR THE RECORD PRICE FOR A GALLON OF.VERY GOOD. AND DON, DID YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS TO COUNSEL BRIEFLY ON WHAT WE RECENTLY SAW ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS I'M SORRY I WAS LOOKING UP SOMETHING WHICH I WILL BE DOING ON THE RESOURCE CRISIS CENTER.
PROVAL THEY ARE LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR A PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE A FACILITY, UM, THEY REQUIRE AS A CONDITION TO CLEAR THE EVIDENCE OF CONSENT OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS THE CITY.
SOME OF THE AGENCY KNOWS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS IN ACCORD WITH THE PROJECT.
AND BEFORE WE TAKE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE MR. DENNIS FERGUSON.
DENNIS, WOULD YOU COME OUT, PLEASE, SIR, IS THE GENTLEMAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE RESOURCE CRISIS CENTER.
DENNIS, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OF COUNSEL TODAY? YES, SIR. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE THE APPLICATION, WHICH WE SUBMIT EVERY YEAR TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
HE GIVES US FUNDING TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT FROM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
THEY COME TO OUR SHELTER AND FUNDS VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE PROVIDE SERVICES LIKE THERAPY, PSYCHIATRIST, JUST THE SHELTER ITSELF, FOOD PANTRY FOR UTILITIES.
IT'S ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.
THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF OUR BUDGET.
AND THEN JUST TO CRYER'S LOCAL COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR US TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO DO.
THANK YOU, DENNIS. BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION, ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. FERGUSON OR OUR CITY ATTORNEY? OK, THANK YOU, DENNIS.
YES, WE HAVE MOVEMENT FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM FIVE B AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COLLINS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE IN FAVOR? IT IS UNANIMOUS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. BERGSTEN. APPRECIATE IT.
LET'S MOVE NOW TO ITEM FOR THE DISCUSSION OF SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
[4B. Discussion Of A Short Term Rental Registration Program - D Buckley ( 30 Min )]
BRIAN HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS.BRIAN IS IN A WATER BOARD MEETING THIS MORNING.
SO WE HAVE DAN BUCKLEY THAT IS GOING TO PRESENT TO US THIS MORNING ABOUT THE STAND RIGHT NOW. CAN YOU PUT OUR POINT UP AND WE GET A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE NOW AS YOU PUT YOUR.
JUST A LITTLE HISTORY, THIS ITEM CAME TO COUNCIL FOLLOWING A REQUEST FROM SOME OF THE LOCAL PARENTS HERE IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL REPRESENTATIVES OF USING CITY RESOURCES TO ENFORCE CITY ORDINANCE.
THE CHALLENGE WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COST OF THOSE RESOURCES WOULD BE ABSENT
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ANY, YOU KNOW, DEFINING LANGUAGE OR ANY DEFINITIVE USE WE ARBITRARILY DECIDED ON BASED ON. IT WAS QUITE ARBITRARY, BUT BASED ON INFORMATION BOOKS, IT IS BEST TO COVER FOR DAYS THE SHOULDERS OF THE WEEKEND.SO IT'S FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY.
WE TOOK THAT INFORMATION AND REALLY JUST EXTRAPOLATED WHAT FROM BUSH, WHAT THE COST OF A MARSHALL WOULD BE, REALLY TO STAFF THOSE DAYS AT A RESOURCE LEVEL THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO PATROL THE CITY BROKEN INTO THREE ZONES.
GO AHEAD TO SLIDE ONE, JANELLE OR TWO.
I GUESS WE'LL GIVE IT COUNCIL.
BASICALLY, WE TOOK THE COST, THE TOTAL COST OF EACH MARSAL.
WE IDENTIFIED THEIR SALARY, THE COST TO EQUIP THEM.
AND THAT COST IN YEAR ONE IS SEVENTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WITH MARSHALS', YOU HAVE TO HAVE SUPERVISORS.
THE PROPOSED STAFFING, THERE WOULD BE SARGENTS, THEIR CALLS WOULD BE SEVENTY EIGHT THOUSAND AND ONE LIEUTENANT COST ME EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND.
THE COLUMN TO THE RIGHT JUST DEALS WITH THEIR USEFUL LIFE OF VARIOUS ASSETS THEY HAD SO WE CAN DETERMINE THE COST FURTHER TO YEAR TWO.
SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, GINELLE.
THIS WOULD BE THE COST TO ESTABLISH A GROUP OF 18 DEPUTIES, TWO SERGEANTS AND ONE LIEUTENANT TO COVER THREE ZONES FOR FOUR DAYS A WEEK.
THESE WOULD BE THE UPFRONT COSTS IF YOU WERE TO HIRE EVERYBODY AND START ON DAY ONE, FULLY STAFFED AND ALL IN COST.
NOW, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE COST, THE RECURRING COST OF OPERATING THE MARSHALS OFFICE.
IF WE WERE TO STAFF TO OPERATE FOUR DAYS A WEEK, 20 TO 24 HOURS A DAY.
AND WHAT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE PURCHASING THE VEHICLES EVERY YEAR. YOU'RE NOT TO BE PURCHASING MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT EVERY YEAR.
SO THE THE ONGOING COSTS OF EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE IS MUCH LOWER.
THE COST OF THE DEPUTIES AND THE AND THE SERGEANT LIEUTENANT IS THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT ALLOCATING IF THERE'S A TWO PERCENT LABOR MARKET DIFFERENCE THIS YEAR, TOO, WE PUT THAT IN THE NUMBERS.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN SALARIES.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, INSTEAD OF A LUMP SUM, BREAKS IT DOWN INTO THE ANNUALIZED COST.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. SO YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE TO HIRE 80 NEW DEPUTIES.
SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY WORKING WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AND SOMEONE ELSE WORKING THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY OR TUESDAY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY STAFF RIGHT NOW THAT WE WOULD FOCUS ON SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE ENFORCEMENT. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE DOING WELL.
BUT WHAT IS YOUR AVERAGE MARSHAL OF EVERY DAY? CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS HOW WE CAN GRASS TRASH LITTERING DEBRIS, PROPERTIES THAT NEED REPAIR, ILLEGAL FEEL ABANDONED VEHICLES, ABANDONED, BOTH ABANDONED TRAILERS.
AND SOME GOLF CART COVERS THE GOLF CARTS, SO I CATCH WE TRY NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE ASSIST THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITH TRYING TO DETERMINE IF PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING REPAIRS HAVE THEIR PERMITS FOR EXTRA HOURS, FOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IN THE GETTING IN APARTMENTS DO THE WORK THEY DO.
AND IF NOT, THEN WE ASSIST THEM WITH RED TAGGED THE PROJECTS AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR DAILY ACTIVITIES ARE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.
AND HOW BIG IS THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW, I HAVE 11 DEPUTIES PERTAINING TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND I GOT SWORN TO SIX ONE SIX SIX MARSHALS, SIX SWORN MARSHALS AND ALL I HAVE.
OK, SO THESE WOULD ALL BE POLICE OFFICERS, CORRECT? OK, I SAID WHAT WOULD PEACE OFFICERS WHO POLICE THE 18 THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING HERE WANT THEM TO DO THOSE TYPE THINGS? SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'D BE. THEY WOULDN'T BE.
SO THERE'S A DIFFERENT COST OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT VERSUS THE.
SO IS THIS A TRUE NUMBER? SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BREAK THAT OUT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME IF THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICERS KIND OF THAT THEY'RE NOT KIND OF LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CERTIFIED.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO GET MORE THAN YOU JUST MENTIONED.
THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO DO BOTH.
THEY WILL THEY WILL ENTAIL BOTH DUTIES AS WELL.
WE HAVE CIVILIAN CODE ENFORCEMENT.
WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THE ONES THAT CAN ENFORCE STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT, CAN MERELY ENFORCE CITY CODE.
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SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS, IT VERY WELL MAY START OUT AS LOUD NOISE. AND WE HAVE NO EARTHLY IDEA WHAT IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO.YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE WITH THAT POWER TO ENFORCE THE LAW TO RESPOND TO THOSE TYPES OF CALLS. SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
VERY WELL MAY HAVE NO EFFECT ON.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME ACROSS.
SO RIGHT HERE, WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE YOUR FORCE AND BE MORE THAN IT WOULD MORE DEWITT ONE FIGURE THEY TO THINK GOING TO WORK 24 HOURS A DAY.
BASICALLY, WHILE WE'RE IN THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROPOSALS, ONE, FOUR, 10 HOUR DAYS, WHICH WILL GIVE YOU 20 HOUR COVERAGE AND THEN ONE FOR TWENTY FOUR HOUR COVERAGE FOR FOUR DAYS.
SO AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I CAN EXPLAIN MORE OF THE PROS AND CONS OF THE TWO.
DOES THIS INCLUDE BENEFITS? IT DOES, YEAH.
IT'S ALL MONEY. CAN CAN WE GET YOU DOWN TO MAKE COPIES OF THESE? AND PERHAPS YOU SHARE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE.
SURE. I MEAN, SINCE WE'RE TALKING NUMBERS, IT'S EASIER TO HAVE.
I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL PURE ESTIMATES BASED ON WHAT BUTCH RECOMMENDS, A BOOK THAT'S ALREADY MADE COPIES. READ YOUR MIND.
YEAH, WE WE WERE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THAT.
WE DISTRIBUTE THEM TO THE AUDIENCE, TO THE SOUTH AND WE TAKE THOSE AUDIENCE.
SO I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE.
SO YEAH, IF I CAN FINISH THEN WE CAN GET AN ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO LET'S LET DAN FINISH AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL COME IN WITH OUR QUESTIONS.
SO AGAIN, THIS, THIS SLIDE JUST GETS DOWN TO THE RECURRING CALLS AFTER YEAR ONE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY VEHICLES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THE RADIOS EVERY YEAR.
SO IT'S A LOWER IT'S A MUCH LOWER NUMBER.
NEXT SLIDE IS DEALING WITH HOW WE JUST ARRIVED AT THE VEHICLE COST.
THE VEHICLE COST COMES FROM WHAT OUR COST IS TO BUY AND EQUIP A VEHICLE.
THAT'S THE FRONT PURCHASE PRICE ON IT.
SOME SORT OF ONE SECOND YOU NOW CAN YOU MOVE THAT LITTLE SCREEN TO THE BOTTOM SO IT'S NOT BLOCKING THE NUMBER PLATES OF THE SCREEN ON THE RIGHT SCREEN.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK YOU CAN JUST PULL IT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF WELL, IF YOU TURN TO THE VEHICLE ON YOUR HAND OUT, IT'S THERE BE THE FOURTH PLACE THAT IT'S TYPE OF VEHICLE TRUSTEE SO HEAVILY IN THE CENTER COLUMN IS UP FRONT COST ON THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN IS JUST THE AMORTIZED COST OF THOSE ASSETS IN A VEHICLE.
SEVEN YEARS YOU GOT TO EQUIPMENTS FIVE YEARS AND A PEDRAZA 15 YEARS.
SO THAT TELLS YOU THE ANNUAL COST OF THOSE.
THAT'S HOW WE DERIVE THE ONGOING CALLS AFTER YEAR ONE.
THAT'S THERE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
THEN THE NEXT TWO, THREE, FOUR SLIDES DEAL WITH THE VARIOUS SHIFTS AND VAN SLYKE BUSH TALK ABOUT HOW HE'S DERIVED THIS SCHEDULE AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE OVERALL COST HERE.
END OF WHAT I WAS TASKED WITH TRYING TO COME UP WITH.
THIS IS MAXIMUM COVERAGE FOR THE WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS.
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MAIN PROBLEM.
WELL, MOST HOLIDAYS ARE ON A FRIDAY OR A MONDAY AND THE WEEKENDS ARE ALWAYS THE PROBLEM.
SO FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY WERE MY TARGET DAYS TO HAVE COVERAGE AND THEN TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE MANPOWER ON A 10 HOUR SHIFT.
I'LL GIVE YOU 20 HOUR COVERAGE FROM 8:00 A.M.
TILL 4:00 A.M. AND IF IT'S IT WORKS BETTER FOR SCHEDULING.
HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR HOURS PER DAY THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY SHORT TERM RELIEF FOR UNDERSTANDING FOUR AND EIGHT A.M.
NORMALLY YOU'VE ALREADY CALMED DOWN OR IS NOT THE ISSUE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU HAVE A DAY SHIFT AND A NIGHT SHIFT, THE DAY SHIFT AT EIGHT A.M.
TO SIX P.M. AND THEN THE NIGHT SHIFT IS SIX P.M.
TO FOUR A.M. EACH SHIFT WILL HAVE A SERGEANT FOR SUPERVISION.
AND THE OVERALL YOU'LL HAVE A LIEUTENANT THAT SUPERVISES THE ENTIRE UNIT AND YOU HAVE THREE PEOPLE PER DISTRICT.
THE DISTRICTS ARE BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE EACH TO 40, 50, 100, THIRD AND WEST 130.
NOW, THE REASON WE HAVE THREE DEPUTIES PER DISTRICT IS YOU YOU CAN'T RESPOND TO ANY OF THESE CALLS WITHOUT A BACK.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE BACKING YOU BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO COME OUT TO BE. AND WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE TO BACK OURSELF.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE.
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AND THE REASON YOU HAVE THE THIRD PERSON IS FOR VACATION AND SICK DAYS, TRAINING DAYS.YOU HAVE TO HAVE MAXIMUM COVERAGE.
WITH THIS SHIFT. WE'LL HAVE ONE UNIT THAT WILL BE A DOUBLE MAIN UNIT AND ONE UNIT THAT'S GOING TO BE A SINGLE UNIT IN EACH DISTRICT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CARVE OUT THERE IN EACH DISTRICT PATROL AND THEY'LL EITHER HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN A CAR AND ONE OF THEM, OR THEY'LL BE TWO SINGLE MAN CARS.
THAT'S THE 10 HOUR SHIFT, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR WHAT IS ACTUALLY WANTING.
IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING THE FOUR HOUR WINDOW AND THIS IS THE BEST SHIFT WITH THAT, IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE HAVING THE FOUR HOUR WINDOW, NO COVERAGE, THEN WE HAVE THE 12 HOUR SHIFT, WHICH IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THOUGH THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH.
NOW, THIS IS A 12 HOUR SHIFT AND IT'S STILL COVERING THE SAME DAY'S FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY, IN ORDER TO GET THE 80 HOUR WORK PER WORK CYCLE.
ONE DAY THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THREE, 12 HOUR DAYS.
THE NEXT WEEK, THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THREE, 12 HOUR DAYS AND AN EIGHT HOUR DAY.
THAT GIVES THEM 80 HOURS IN THAT PAY CYCLE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON HERE, SOME DAYS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT GET ALL COME IN LATE ON THE FIRST MONDAY.
IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE NEXT MONDAY, IF YOU YOU'LL SEE THAT PERSON'S OFF THE NEXT MONDAY.
SO THEY'LL BE OFF THREE DAYS, ONE WEEK AND THEN FOUR DAYS THE NEXT WEEK.
AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT BP DOES.
THIS IS IDENTICAL, THE SAME WITH WHAT THEY DO, EXCEPT THEY HAVE THEIR DAYS OFF.
EVERYBODY GETS A WEEKEND OFF WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF THIS THIS UNIT HERE, WEEKENDS WHEN WHEN THEY WERE THERE. SO WE'RE NOT USING WEEKENDS AS A LUXURY DATE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THERE AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE A SERGEANT FOUR DAYS AND FOUR NIGHTS.
YOU'LL HAVE TWENTY FOUR HOUR COVERAGE HERE AND A LIEUTENANT WILL BE OVER THE ENTIRE UNIT.
HIS DAYS OFF WILL BE TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND HE'LL BE WORKING FROM 2:00 P.M.
HE'S GOING TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES.
HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE WORK THROUGH THE WEEK AS WELL AS THE NEXT LARGEST NUMBER OF THE FIRST FLIGHT IS JUST NIGHT SHIFT AND EXACTLY THE SAME.
80 HOUR WORK CYCLE FOR DEPUTY, AND YOU'LL HAVE TWENTY FOUR HOUR COVERAGE FOR DAYS A WEEK.
THAT'S FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, MOST HOLIDAYS ARE ON OR RECOGNIZED ON A FRIDAY OR A MONDAY.
SO YOU'RE GETTING FOUR DAYS A WEEK, 24 HOUR COVERAGE WITH THE 12 HOUR SHIFT.
NOW, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THEN I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE REQUIRING.
AND AS YOU SAID, YOU NEED IT BACK UP.
WHY CAN'T SAVE CAUSE USE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AS YOUR BACKUP? MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S THE REASON THIS IS BEING IMPLEMENTED, BECAUSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THESE CALLS AND WE CAN'T RELY ON THEM TO MAKE THEM BACK IF THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS.
SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE SELF SUSTAINING AND HAVE THE OFFICERS TO BACK OURSELVES. WELL, BECAUSE I SEE INCIDENCES OUT THERE WHERE YOU HAVE ONE OFFICER, HE CALLS FOR BACKUP AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE OR FOUR CARS SHOW UP.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHY CAN'T WE USE THAT TO OFFSET THE COST? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN ON THE EXPENSES OF HAVING THE THE RESPONSE TIME THAT I BELIEVE IS DESIRED.
YOU'RE GOING TO REQUIRE TWO PEOPLE TO RESPOND.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BACK IN A TIMELY MANNER, THE RESPONSE TIMES ARE GOING TO BE SLOW, AS IT VERY WELL MAY BE.
NOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RESPONSE TIMES ARE, BUT THAT DEPENDS ON CIRCUMSTANCES, CORRECT? IT DEPENDS ON IF THERE'S SOMEONE CLOSE, IF SOMEONE IS NOT ALREADY TIED UP ON ANOTHER CALL. SO NOT BEING ABLE TO RELY ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE TO SUSTAIN OURSELF AND BACK OURSELVES.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE HAVING IT MANNED SO THAT WE CAN BACK EACH OTHER ON OUR OWN.
BUT THAT'S THAT'S VERY JUST SAID CAN ALSO COULD BE HAVING TWO PEOPLE IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT WERE HAVING TROUBLE.
SO, I MEAN, THESE ARE TYPICALLY OUR LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.
EXCUSE ME, THESE WOULD NOT BE TYPICALLY LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.
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POLICE, THE POLICE GET THEIR CALLS.BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S CORRECT. I KNOW IT CAN BE A SAFETY ISSUE.
AND THE MARSHAL THAT ARRIVED AT THE SCENE WOULD KNOW IMMEDIATELY WHETHER HE NEEDS TO GET BACK UP OR PD. HE HAS A RADIO AND HE REQUESTS THAT.
I YOU KNOW, THE WAY I LOOK AT IF YOU HAD A TROUBLED SHORT TERM PROBLEM, IF THEY CAN'T GET OFF, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE GOING TO CALL NINE ONE ONE HOW TO GET A DISPATCHER.
THAT IS, IF IT'S GOING TO BE THE MARSHAL OR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT POLICE HAPPEN TO BE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M PRETTY SURE THEY CAN RESPOND PRIOR OR FASTER THAN THE MARSHALS.
I, I MEAN, I JUST RECOGNIZE THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING IS THAT BROUGHT FORWARD.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION TO COUNSEL RELATED TO WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE CHARGED WITH, IS DETERMINING THE COST TO STAFF, AS USUAL, UTILIZING THE MARSHALS OFFICE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU.
WE CAN UTILIZE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO.
YOU CAN MUCH BETTER IS CORRECT RELATED ON POLICE THAT YOU BUTCHES CORRECT.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE RUN INTO IS PD.
IF YOU HAVE A CALL AT MIDNIGHT WITH CONCERNS AND A SHORT TERM RENTAL, THAT'S NOT A HIGH PRIORITY SUBJECT FOR POLICE USING.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS THAT THEY'RE DELAYED IN GETTING OUT THERE AND BY THE TIME THEY GET OUT THERE AND WE CAN'T REALLY RELY, NOR SHOULD WE ON THE POLICE BACKING THAT.
I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT AGAIN, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES ARE GOING TO BE WHEN YOU GET OUT.
THERE CAN BE LOUD MUSIC AND ALL OF SUDDEN IT CAN ESCALATE.
THAT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY COOGAN.
THAT'S A PLUS OF HAVING TRAINED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, WHICH ARE MARSHALS ARE ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EVEN FOR THE BIG PICTURE.
SO MARSHALL, LIKE A PLACE THEN, OBVIOUSLY DEALS WITH ALL THE LOSS IN THE CITY, BUT A PLACEMENT DOESN'T DEAL WITH ORDINANCES.
THEIR HIGHEST PRIORITY IS PEOPLE THAT I MEAN, IT'S JUST BY PRIORITY.
BUT THEY COULD STILL DEAL WITH IT.
AND ESPECIALLY ON THOSE BUSY WEEKENDS THAT WE'RE COVERING 24/7.
I KNOW I HAVE THE POLICE PRESENCE OF POLICE HERE ON THE ISLAND, SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE DOING POLICE OFFICERS IN THE MARSHALS PROGRAM.
MY QUESTION AS WELL, WOULD YOU MIND? LET'S LET DAN FINISH, GET THROUGH THIS IF YOU COULD HOLD THAT FOR.
SO I JUST HAD THE LAST PAGE ON THE LAST PAGE.
IT GETS DOWN TO I KNOW EVERYBODY CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST.
PER MARSCHALL, I GAVE YOU THAT.
HERE'S ONE HUNDRED TWELVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED ONE.
THE WAY THAT BREAKS DOWN, THAT'S A SALARY HALF OF A VEHICLE BECAUSE YOU PAY THEM OFF.
SO THE VEHICLES ARE IT'S TWO PEOPLE PER CAR AND THEN YOU HAVE THE EQUIPMENT COST.
IT'S ABOUT ONE HUNDRED TWELVE FIVE.
FORTY ONE IS THE ANNUAL COST OF A MORSCHEL IF YOU BROKE IT OUT.
AND IN THE BOX UNDERNEATH IS YEAR ONE AND YEAR TWO ESTIMATES BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE GAVE YOU EARLIER. SO IF YOU WERE TO LOAD IT UP, WHICH WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE ASKED, WOULD WE BRING IT FORWARD? WOULD BE EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY TWO DOLLARS ON BASED ON TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THEN YEAR TWO COST, WHICH IS MORE REALISTIC.
IT WOULD BE FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY TO THE BEACH.
PARK BOARD ESTIMATES THE COST OF THE PROGRAMING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE FOR REGISTRATION AND THE MAINTENANCE AT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THAT NUMBER IS A ROUGH ESTIMATE NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAM IDENTIFIED.
AND SO THE NUMBERS BELOW WOULD BE THE COMBINED COST.
THERE WOULD BE EIGHT HUNDRED NINETY THREE OR SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE.
YOU KNOW, IF I WAS THE DECISION MAKER ON THERE, I'D GO WITH THE LOWER NUMBER BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T STAFF AN OFFICE ON DAY ONE.
IT PROBABLY TAKE A YEAR TO NUMBER ONE OF THE VEHICLES, PROCURE THE EQUIPMENT, HIRE THE STAFF. SO YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT PROBABLY A YEAR TO STAND UP, WHATEVER WE DO, IF WE DO ANYTHING. BUT WHAT WE WERE CHARGED WITH DOING WAS BRINGING FORWARD SOME ESTIMATES OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO HAVE MARSHALS DO ENFORCEMENT OF ORDINANCES ALL THE ON THE WEEKENDS OR ON THE BUSY DAYS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD, NOT MY QUESTION.
OK, WELL, LET ME BRING BACK DAN.
MY QUESTION COMES FROM THE LINE THAT WE DO THE PLACES.
SO HOW WE LOOK AT BREAKING OUT THE THE THREE RESTRICTIONS, HAVE WE FACTORED IN THERE BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST SOME ROUGH IDEA OF HOW MANY RENTALS THERE ARE IN THE
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AREA? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE TENDS TO BE MORE ON THE EAST AND THE MORE ON THE WEST THEN, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE IN THE MIDDLE.RIGHT. SO WE'RE PUTTING THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE WHEN WE PROBABLY NEED ONE MORE ON THE EAST AND A ONE MORE ON THE WEST.
AND THAT'S THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, WITH THE REGISTRATION THAT'S NOW REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE NUMBERS, DEPENDING ON HOW THE THE PARK WORKED TO GET THEIR SYSTEM IMPLEMENTED AND STAND UP. BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DO.
THE THE VARIABILITY IS SORT OF ARBITRARY UP FRONT IS LET'S JUST HAVE THREE DISTRICTS THAT MAY BE THAT HAVE MORE COVERAGE E MORE COVERAGE WEST, BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
AND WE'D HAVE THAT NUMBER ONCE THE SYSTEM GETS UP AND WORK.
AND THEN IF WE CHOOSE TO PUT THIS IN PLACE, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE QUANTIFIED BY THE NUMBERS UP FRONT.
ABSOLUTELY. IN THAT AREA, WHEN WE FIND CONSTANT OFFENDER AND ONE IT COME TO MY MIND AND I'M SURE THE SAME ONE WOULD COME TO YOUR MIND NOW AND SAY, WHAT IS IT? SIXTY SEVEN PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHO PUTS 30 SOME PEOPLE INTO HOUSES THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE MORE THAN SIX.
THAT AND WHEN WE FIND SOMEONE, IT'S A QUESTION OF USER IS IS AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR DON. THIS IS IT.
LIKE IF WE COULD SAY SORRY, YOU CAN HAVE A LICENSE IN THIS CITY ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU'RE USING IT. AND I KNOW IT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE ON THE EAST, EVERYWHERE ON THE WEST, THERE ARE THE ONES THAT CAUSE THE TROUBLE, CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE CARS EVERYWHERE.
IN THEIR ADVERTISEMENTS, YOU MUST BE AN EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL PERSON BECAUSE THEY ARE EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL AND THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT OUR ISLAND AND EXCUSE ME, THERE PROBABLY IS 10 PERCENT OF THE MS. AREN'T, BUT IT TENDS TO BE THAT'S OUR ISSUE HOUSES.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT IS LIKE BREAKING UP, MAKING THE DISTRICTS TO WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE MOST.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALWAYS FACE IN DISTRICT SIX BECAUSE IT'S LIKE SO THE WHATEVER THE DISTRICT RUNS FROM 89 STRAIGHT TO THE END OF THE ISLAND.
AND IF YOU ONLY HAVE TWO GUYS AND YOU KNOW, I NEVER LIKE TO SAY THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS, BUT IF YOU ONLY HAVE TO MARSHAL CARS AND HOWEVER MANY POLICE CARS, THAT'S A LOT OF AREA TO COVER WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY THAT CONSTANT AN OFFENDER PROBABLY WITH 40 PROPERTIES STRETCHED IN THAT AREA.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LOOK LOOK AT IT MORE IN A QUANTIFIED I MEAN, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? WELL, WE CAN DEFINITELY ADJUST OUR OUR DISTRICT ONCE WE DETERMINE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE NEEDED. THOSE ARE JUST DISTRICTS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE AS A GENERIC NUMBER, BUT AS A CALL TO DICTATES WE CAN MOVE OUR MANPOWER WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE MORE USED. OK, LET'S LET'S HAVE LET'S HAVE DON.
DON, YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND THEN I'M GOING TO CALL PATRIARCH.
I'M GOING TO PICK YOUR BRAIN FOR JUST A SECOND.
I'M THINKING. GO RIGHT AHEAD, DON.
SO YOU HAVE SOME CLOWN JUMPING OFF THE PEAK OF A HOUSE WITH A SWIMMING POOL WHILE CRUSHING BEER CANS ON HIS HEAD.
WHATEVER YOU WERE AT THAT PARTY WHERE HE CAN WRITE A CHECK.
GO BACK TO WYOMING OR WHATEVER, AND THEN NEXT WEEK THERE'LL BE SOMEBODY ELSE DOING WHATEVER. NOW.
WHEN WE WERE IN NEGOTIATIONS, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PLATFORMS, WHAT THEY SAID WAS, IF YOU HAVE A LOCATION AND THE OWNER HASN'T TAKEN ANY STEPS, YOU GIVE US THE INFORMATION ON THAT AND WE'LL BE LISTENING.
THAT MAY BE AN APPROACH THAT WE WANT TO START TAKING.
WE'LL HAVE TO DOCUMENT THE SANDERSON PLATFORM, SAID DO.
I THINK THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH THAT'S REALLY WORTH LOOKING FOR.
AND I KNOW LIKE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE RANGE OF OLSEN BRACKENRIDGE, BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT IN MY LIFE, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BECOME A CLEANER RENTAL.
AND THEN I DECIDED NO STRANGER, WHATEVER, PUT THEIR HEAD IN MY BED, BUT IN A PROPERTY
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THERE. BUT IF IT'S A PROBLEM OFFENDER, THEY REMOVE THEIR LICENSE LIKE YOU'RE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO RENT ANYMORE.BUT I KNOW WE HAVE DIFFERENT LAWS IN TEXAS THAN THEY DO IN COLORADO.
SO IT'S LIKE AND IF WE'RE GOING TO AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, WHEN WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION ON SHORT TERM RENTALS STARTED WITH THE VCR, WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT ANNUAL REGISTRATION.
WE WILL BE GETTING IN TO LOOKING AT REGULATIONS, FURTHER REGULATIONS AND ENFORCEMENT FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. THAT'S COMING ON OUR AGENDA, TOO.
SO WE NEED TO WE NEED TO PUT OUR ATTENTION TO THAT.
OK, HOW MANY SHORT TERM RENTALS DO WE HAVE? WELL, WE'VE HAD A RECENT FLURRY OF REGISTRATIONS AS A RESULT OF THE ADS THAT YOU ALL PASSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FIVE HUNDRED IN THE LAST MONTH.
THERE WERE AROUND TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED PROPERTIES, TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED, YES, AND AND AND REGISTERED, YES.
TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED REGISTERED.
AND THERE WAS AT ONE POINT THE PARK BOARD HAD A GUESSTIMATE ON HOW MANY WERE STILL OUT THERE REGISTERED TO YOU.
IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION FOR YOU? YES. I'M SORRY. I'M NOT I'M NOT CAPABLE OF ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
LOOKING AT THE GEOGRAPHIC DISPERSION AND ANALYSIS THAT I DID ABOUT A YEAR AGO, HALF OF ALL OF THEM WERE IN SEVEN, SEVEN.
I THOUGHT, OK, WHICH RELATES TO YOUR HAVE GREATER ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA, SEVEN SEVEN FIVE FIVE, FOUR OF THOSE THAT HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS THAT HAVE THE 16 TO 20 SLEEPING CAPACITY. OK, COUNCILMAN COLLINS.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT STRIPPING THE FORCE ACROSS THE ISLAND, WHICH SAYS AS AS WE AS WE GET INTO THIS, WE'RE PROBABLY PRETTY QUICKLY DISCOVER, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE NEED EACH, HOW MUCH WE REQUEST WITH THE MISSILES WITH AN ISSUE.
I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE TIME OF DAY.
DO WE NEED THIS 24/7? DO WE NEED THIS OVERNIGHT? BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT FROM, SAY, ON THE STRAND, YEAH, WE I DON'T NEED IT TO TEN O'CLOCK TUESDAY MORNING.
THAT'S NOT I. TEN O'CLOCK SATURDAY NIGHT.
SO KNOW THAT'S THAT'S WHEN THE HEAT IS AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T HAVE.
AND I WOULD SUSPECT THAT IS TRUE.
I KNOW IT'S TRUE OF PARTY HOUSES, YOU KNOW, SHORT TERM RENTALS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOST OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT'S ON THE WEST THEN HIRED THEIR OWN SECURITY. SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY HAVE FROM SIX O'CLOCK AT NIGHT TILL EITHER THREE OR FOUR O'CLOCK ON THE MORNING, AND THEY HAVE FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY UNLESS IT'S A HOLIDAY WEEKEND AND THEN THEY HAVE SUNDAY FOR MONDAY.
SO THAT, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS VALID BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF YOUR ISSUES HAPPEN BETWEEN PROBABLY IN THE DARK, MOSTLY.
SO MOST DARK ARE. YEAH, WELL, SO YEAH.
SO IS THAT A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD WE COULD LIMIT THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY TO THE FORCE. HOW DO YOU FEEL IF WE DRIVE THIS BASED ON WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO AND THEN YOU CAN WE CAN CUSTOMIZE IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.
WELL, PROBLEM IS, YOU STILL NEED A CERTAIN NUMBER.
I MEAN, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LAST WEEK AND SO FORTH, THE MARCH, FROM A GOOD POINT, YOU CAN'T HIRE SOMEBODY FOR 12 HOURS A WEEK.
I MEAN, YOU NEED FULL TIME EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU NEED SUPERVISION AND YOU NEED CERTAIN EQUIPMENT.
THERE'S THERE'S A MINIMAL COST OF DOING THIS AT ALL, BUT IS A FEASIBLE IDEA TO DO IT.
AN OVERNIGHT SHIFT, IT'S LIGHTS UP.
WHATEVER COUNCILMAN WANTING US TO PUT TOGETHER, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER.
AND AND MOST TIME IT'S GOING TO BE NIGHTTIME HOURS IS WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR COMPLAINTS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN LOSING IT UP ALL DAY AND NOW THEY'RE READY TO PARTY ALL NIGHT. SO IF IF IT'S JUST NIGHT TIME COVERAGE, THEN WE CAN ADJUST TO OURS TONIGHT, TIME COVERAGE ONLY. AND THAT WILL DEFINITELY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF THESE.
BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM IN THE DAYTIME.
BUT UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S AN ISSUE IN THE DAYTIME NOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE TO PICK THAT UP. WELL, THEY DO NOW.
THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE DEAL WITH IT FOR THE MOST PART NOW.
AND I DON'T KNOW, FOR SECURITY OR THEY DON'T.
I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT WE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SEE THAT PROBLEM IN THE DAYTIME.
NOW, I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T THAT'S NOT THE COMPLAINT I GET.
THE COMPLAINTS I GET ARE ABOUT NIGHTTIME WHEN I GET PARKING COMPLAINTS WITH YOUR PARKING, YOUR GARBAGE THE NEXT MORNING, THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY THE GARBAGE COMPLAINTS ARE SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO TAKE UP THE OWNERS PROPERTY, NOT NOT THE PRESIDENT.
THE TIME YOU DISCOVER THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE IN THE ALLEY, THEY'RE GONE.
WELL, I THINK WHAT THIS GIVES YOU ALL IS A STARTING POINT FOR YOUR DISCUSSION.
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SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE AND THEN WE CAN DIVIDE IT AND BRING BACK DIFFERENT NUMBERS FOR A LIMITED STAFF OR JUST NIGHT TIME ONLY.BUT IT WAS A GOOD EXERCISE FOR US BECAUSE WE CUT IT OUT OF WHAT IT WOULD REALLY, REALLY COST. YOU DON'T THINK THROUGH DOWN TO THE UNIFORMS AND THE RADIOS AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH WITH STAFFING UP.
DETAILED MANY TIMES BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS SUBJECT.
I WANT TO GET, FIRST OF ALL, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
JOHN, DID YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? YOU WANT TO MENTION WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS? I MEAN, IS THIS COMING BACK TO US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM US TO GET MORE INFORMATION OR WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? WELL, THIS ALONG, IT'S IT'S A WORKSHOP ITEM TODAY.
MY THOUGHTS WERE THAT WE WOULD COME BACK AND WORKSHOP IT AGAIN, OK, AND THEN FINALIZE THE DOCUMENT AT THAT POINT AND THEN PUT IT ON FOR ACTION.
AND THEN I GUESS THE THINGS THAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US IS SOME ALTERNATE SCHEDULES ON MAYBE.
I MEAN, I LIKE THE IDEA OF MORE ENFORCEMENT OF NIGHT, LESTER, IN THE DAY, BUT I THINK WE DO NEED SOME DURING THE DAY.
SO IF WE CAN PARE DOWN THE DAYTIME SHIFTS AND HAVE MORE OFFICERS AND THEN IN THE EVENING OR NIGHT, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION IF THAT EVEN WORKS SCHEDULING WISE.
CHALLENGE, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE DISTRICT GOING TO BE BIGGER IN THE DAYTIME? WELL, THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE.
AND I MEAN, THE DISTRICTS MIGHT AM I GO DOWN TO ONE DISTRICT IN THE DAYTIME AND THEN THREE DISTRICTS AT NIGHT TIME OR, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE JUST NEED MORE OPTIONS THERE.
OK. AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR COVERAGE, IT MIGHT SAVE THE SIX P.M.
TO 4:00 A.M.. SOUND LIKE A GOOD.
YEAH, I LIKE THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU HAD FOR THE NIGHTTIME OR MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT LATER AND THEY START ROLLING AROUND 10:00.
RIGHT IF I CAN. AND THEN ON THE ON THE COST HERE.
I LEFT. JUST TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT IT'S A FULLY EQUIPPED MARKET.
THAT'S GREAT. AND I GUESS WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON HOW THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
KNOW IF IT'S IF WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF IDEA, IF IT'S BASED ON A NUMBER OF BEDROOM D'AMBRA BEDS OR THE SIZE OF THAT MEAN BECAUSE I DON'T THINK LIKE WE HEARD TODAY, I DON'T THINK A ONE BEDROOM, ONE BAD SORT OF METAL PROBABLY SHOULD PAY THE SAME FEE AS SOMETHING THAT SLEEPS 30.
I DON'T DISAGREE. I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S I WAS THINKING ABOUT MORE OF A POLICY DECISION FROM YOU GUYS PERSPECTIVE.
AND YOU TELL US WHAT HOW YOU WANT US TO BREAK IT UP.
WE CAN BREAK IT UP. SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME OPTIONS FROM STAFF.
OK, I THINK, DAN, TO GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION ON THAT, I THINK CORRECTLY SO.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON THE PM COVERAGE.
PERSONALLY, I LIKE BUT WHICH IS ALREADY OUTLINED HERE ON CNN COVERAGE.
BUT WE DON'T NEED AS MANY OF THOSE OFFICERS DURING THE DAY AND PROBABLY HAVE LESS OFFICERS DURING THE DAY.
I'M READING COUNCILMAN AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR JUST OPTIONS, LIKE IF WE IF WE TRY TO BASE IT ON BEDROOMS OR OCCUPANCY OR.
IS HE GOING TO BE STAGGERED? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. YEAH.
YEAH, I AGREE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING I WORK WITH AS PART BOARD ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING WE CAN AUDIT FAIRLY EASILY.
I THINK ONCE YOU'VE GOT OVER THAT INITIAL HUMP WHEN SHE STARTED GETTING MOST OF THEM REGISTERED AND UNDERSTOOD AND GET THAT TRUE, THAT UP, IT WOULDN'T BE SUCH A PROBLEM IN YEAR TWO, THREE, FOUR. BUT INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T PUT TOGETHER A SYSTEM. SOMEBODY IS NOT GOING TO THE GAME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
BUT YOU KNOW THAT I WOULD AGREE ON THIS, THAT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR THAT THE PARK BOARD IS SAYING IT WILL COST.
AND SO IS THAT A SYSTEM PLUS A PERSON THAT'S ON IT? THAT'S THE SYSTEM.
THAT'S THE MONITORING OF IT'S THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE OF THE SYSTEM COURSE WHERE WHERE I'VE SEEN VAN SLYKE IN A NUMBER OF PLACES IN COLORADO WHERE IT WORKS WELL IS THERE IS A HOTLINE THAT PEOPLE CALL.
AND SO IS IT GOING TO BE THIS OR IS THERE GOING TO BE MARSHALS? AND THERE'S EACH RENTAL HAS THAT SOMEONE THAT IS AVAILABLE 24 SEVEN TO COME OUT TO RESPOND IF THERE IS SOMETHING AND THAT TYPICALLY FALLS UNDER WHOEVER IS RUNNING THE SYSTEM? SO IS THAT IS THAT ADDED TO THIS?
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TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.QUITE HONESTLY, WHEN I TALKED TO BRYCE ABOUT THIS, IT WAS SYSTEMS CONTROLS, THE COST OF THE SOFTWARE, THE COST OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SOFTWARE.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S CASE SALARY IS COVERED IN THAT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND OF THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE COVERED BY A HOT AS WE UNDERSTAND.
THE REST IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS FEE TO HELP COVER THE COSTS.
I THINK ALL THOSE ARE PART OF THE REGISTRATION PLATFORM.
AND WHENEVER THAT PLATFORM GETS ESTABLISHED, THIS IS JUST DAN'S VISION.
AND IT WOULD HAVE A WHO IS THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY? TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY. WHO'S THE BACKUP RESPONSIBLE PARTY.
AND THERE'S ISSUES OUT THERE AND YOU CAN'T GET CONTROL.
YOU CALL THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY AND YOU'RE ALREADY FOR THE SECOND ONE.
AND THEN THE ORDINANCE, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO, IT HAS TO HAVE TEETH.
AND IT TEETH TYPICALLY ARE FINES.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE FINES, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE DISTURBANCES OUT THERE AND YOU DON'T RESPOND, THEN THEN IF THE ORDINANCE HAS FINES, THAT CREATES A TEETH.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU GET COMPLIANCE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, WHICH I COULD NOT IN NINETY PERCENT OF THE TIME, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOME TYPE OF FINE OR SOME TEETH IN IT, THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT. SO I AGREE ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE NECESSARY TO HAVE IN THAT PLATFORM ITSELF.
THANK YOU, DAN. I WANT TO THANK YOU AND STAFF FOR BUTCH.
THANK YOU. TIME TO BRING THIS TO US HERE, AND I LIKE THE WAY YOU DID IT, IT GIVES US A BASIS TO WORK FROM ON THIS AND SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
AND WE KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF APPROXIMATELY WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
THEN I'M GOING TO MAKE MENTION SOME THINGS THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK TO OUR WORKSHOP TO BRING US BACK TO US SOME OTHER THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THE REGISTRATION FEE.
YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK POSSIBLY SOME FLAT FEE OR STAGGERED PER BEDROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF YOU COULD BRING INFORMATION BACK ON THAT.
ALSO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WITH THIS PROGRAM, DO WE NEED ANY EXTRA ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF HERE AT THE CITY IN ADDITION TO THE OFFICERS HERE? NOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU DO, PLEASE LET US KNOW ON THAT AND INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR AND YOUR PRO FORMA HERE.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS FROM THE PARK BOARD ON WHAT THEY WILL WANT TO USE THIS MONEY FOR AND MORE SPECIFICS ON WHAT THOSE COSTS WILL BE IF WE COULD BREAK THAT OUT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL COMMUNITY.
TO HEAR THAT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ALSO, DAN, IF WORKING WITH THE PARK BOARD, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS HOW THE THE PROCESS WILL ROLL OUT ON THIS, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY REGISTER ON ONE DAY? ARE WE GOING TO PROVIDE THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND ONLY REGISTER THEM WHEN THEIR REGISTRATION TIME COMES UP? I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK LOGISTICALLY.
AND IF YOU COULD GIVE SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, THESE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE EVEN THE NIGHT OFFICERS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BUSY WITH SHORT TERM MEMOS ALL THE TIME.
WHAT OTHER DUTIES WILL THESE OFFICERS BE DOING AND WHAT TYPE OF WHAT TYPE OF DIRECTION WOULD YOU BE GIVING THEM? GOOD ON THAT.
THEY'LL ALSO BE ADDRESSING PARKING COMPLAINTS AND STUFF THAT WE HAVE AT NIGHT IN THE SHORT TERM ROOM FOR A LOT OF TIMES, AND ESPECIALLY THE LARGE OCCUPANCY HOUSES.
EVERYBODY DRIVES THEIR OWN CAR.
SO WE'LL BE ADDRESSING THOSE AS WELL.
WE'LL BE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OTHER CODE VIOLATIONS TO BE ABLE TO PASS ON TO THE DISTRICT OFFICERS FOR THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE EXTRA EYES OUT THERE AND MAINTAINING VISIBILITY AND HELPING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
WELL, IF YOU HAVE A MARSHAL RESPONDING TO A NOISE COMPLAINT, HE'S NOT GOING TO KNOW JUST WHEN HE ROLLS THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
WELL, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THERE'S A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
VERY WELL MAY NOT BE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW TO GET THERE.
MANY SECOND HOMEOWNERS OR I THINK A NON-TRIVIAL PART OF THIS EQUATION AS WELL, THAT PEOPLE COME DOWN AND PARTY AND LIVE TOGETHER, THEY OWN IT, OR THEY ALLOWED THE PARENTS TO COME IN AND THEY GET CARRIED AWAY.
AND WE'RE GOING MAKE THOSE CALLS AS WELL.
AND UNLESS DISPATCHERS ALREADY KNOW THAT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL, I STILL FEEL THE GOING TO DISPATCH THE MARSHALS OFFICE TO HANDLING LOUD NOISE.
EVEN IF IT'S NOT A SHORT TERM RENTAL, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE CASE.
AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE SAME LINE.
YES. AND THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS TOO MUCH.
WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE PARK BOARD SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT UNITS
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ARE WHAT AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN OFFICERS ARRIVE ON THE SCENE IN SOME WAY.THE LAST THING I HAD TO DO IS.
WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, AS WE APPROACH THIS SUBJECT, INPUT FROM THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT INPUT GOING.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS THEN AND WITH THE PARK BOARD, ANY WAY WE CAN INVOLVE, I'D LIKE TO INVOLVE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY INPUT ON THIS AND RESIDENTS ALSO.
BUT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY FOR SURE, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR INPUT IS IS WE RECEIVE THAT.
AND TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY, YOU CAN HEAR OUR DISCUSSIONS IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR SO FORTH. LET'S JUST SEND THOSE TO DAN BUCKLEY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
HE IS OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
AND DAN WILL TAKE THOSE AND BE HAPPY, I KNOW, TO INCLUDE THOSE IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AND OUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
JOHN, COULD WE ALSO GET SOME TYPE A HISTORY OF VIOLATIONS FROM PAST? I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO HELP US IF WE CAN GET OUT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY SOMETHING THEY ENTER INTO THEIR CALL OR WHETHER IT'S A SHORT TERM RUN OR NOT.
WE CAN GET LOGS OF NOISE COMPLAINTS AND SUCH FROM THEM AND THEN PROBABLY TRY TO PUT IT AGAINST WHATEVER DATABASE THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO.
YEAH, THAT'LL BE GREAT. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO NEED TO TRACK IF THIS PROGRAM GOES RIGHT BACK.
WELL, I BELIEVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CARD SYSTEM IS CAPABLE OF NOTING SHORT TERM RENTALS GOING TO BE A TIME TASK OF HAVING TO ENTER ALL THESE INTO EACH ADDRESS TO AN ADDRESS, POPS UP FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE.
AND THAT'S GOING TO COME UP THAT IT'S A SHORT TIME AROUND.
SO THE POLICE OFFICER OR THE MARSHAL'S GOING TO KNOW WHENEVER THEY GET THE CALL THAT THIS IS A SHORT TURNAROUND, WHETHER IT'S A BURGLAR OR WHETHER IT'S A LOUD NOISE OR WHATEVER THE CALL IS, BECAUSE WHEN THEY PUT THE ADDRESS IN THEIR CARD AND IT COMES OUT THROUGH THE COMPUTERS TO THE CARS, IT'S GOING TO POP UP IN SHORT TERM RELIEF FOR SOMEONE THAT'S A VIOLENT OFFENDER OR GANG MEMBER.
THAT'S ALL GOING TO POP UP IN THE.
SO YOU, LIKE YOU CURRENTLY WOULDN'T SEE INSANITY'S BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE SECURITY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S HIGHER.
SO, LIKE PIRATES JUST WENT TO USE AN OFF DUTY POLICE? WELL, I THINK WE REPORTED SOME SHERIFFS.
I MEAN, MARK, DOES IT GET RECORDED? MY MY POINT HERE IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS FUND THIS PROGRAM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM AND ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THOSE POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE.
IF IF WE'RE JUST USING SHORT TERM RENTALS TO FUND YOUR DEPARTMENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO GET THIS DATA UP FRONT.
BUT AFTER BECAUSE HOW IT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED AND KEPT OVER THE YEARS.
YEAH. AND WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEPARATE OUT SHORT TERM RENTAL CALLS TO ALL OTHER CALLS, THAT'S WAY YOU'D BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT CAUSED THE SHORT TERM RENTALS AND WHICH ONES AREN'T. AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.
WE'LL CHECK WITH DISPATCH AND FIND OUT.
BUT I BELIEVE GENERICALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO WIND UP THIS LOUD NOISE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE ALL THESE DISTURBANCES.
IT'S GOING TO BE ALL THESE, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BREAK OUT OF THAT SOMEHOW.
WHAT WILL SHORT TERM? OK, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A GROUP OF BAD ACTORS AND NOT THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE. YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PUT THEM ALL INTO ONE BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY DISCIPLINED USE OF THEIR SHORT TERM RENTALS AND OTHERS DON'T. SO WE SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH.
I MEAN, WE'RE DEFINITELY BEHIND THE CURVE ON THIS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING RULES GOT OUT IN FRONT OF US AND WITHOUT ALL OUR RULES IN PLACE. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP WITH THEM.
BUT HOPEFULLY WHEN WE CATCH UP, WE WON'T HAVE ALL THESE PROBLEMS AND WE NEED TO SCALE BACK OUR EFFORTS OR OR KEEP THEM IN PLACE.
BUT THE NUMBERS NEED TO TELL US THAT.
AND THEN AND THEN THE FINES, TOO.
I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF STRUCTURE ON THE FINES AND WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD BE SPENT.
ONCE WE IF WE COLLECT IT, IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF FUNDS THAT WILL. ABSOLUTELY. AND AS WE GO ON THIS SUBJECT, I'M GOING TO MENTION TO THE COMMUNITY HERE, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT NO MATTER WHAT PROGRAM WE HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU HAVE VIOLATIONS OR HAVE CONCERNS, YOU NEED TO TURN THOSE IN.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS ABOUT A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT THEY'RE
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CONSTANTLY COMPLAINING ABOUT.GIVE ME A LIST OF ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING ON.
AND I GOT WITH THE CHIEF YESTERDAY, CHIEF HALE, AND THEY ONLY HAD ONE CALL LAST LAST YEAR. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOCUMENT THIS.
THE CITIZENS CALL IN AND REPORT THE NEWS THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT CAN BE DECEIVING, ESPECIALLY IN MY DISTRICT, BECAUSE IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS USING OFF DUTY SHERIFF'S, THEY DON'T CALL IN TO THE SAME SYSTEM AS PD, WHICH IS WHY MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING. SOME PEOPLE ARE USING CONSTABLES.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE A RECORD OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE IT'S ALL DONE PIECEMEAL. NOW WOULD BE THE BEST WAY I COULD EXPLAIN IT.
WHAT WE NEED TO PUT A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT WE DON'T KNOW? WELL, YEAH, I'M IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOPEFULLY NOT HAVE TO PAY THE EXTRA MONEY OF HAVING THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY IF WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE.
APPRECIATE THAT YOU, BRIAN, YOU ONE FOR BREAKING THIS FORWARD.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR BEING HERE.
PLEASE GIVE ME INPUT COUNCIL MEMBER.
DAN BUCKLEY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
WE ARE MOVING TO ITEM NOW FOR A PLEASE TELL THE WEEKEND VICTORY COLUMN FOR I
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CAN'T, YOU KNOW, DON'T EVER WANT TO LOOK BEYOND THE OBVIOUS.WHAT TO YOU TO GOING HEAR THAT EVERY SINGLE SHOW.
I'M GOING TO SIT HERE AND I'LL GO OVER FRONT.
THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD NEVER HEAR.
STANDING IN FRONT OF THAT. TASB WAS FINALLY TORN DOWN ON A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL.
I WATCHED YOU EVER SINCE, SO I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
VERY GOOD. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR.
AND FROM THAT VERY GOOD COUNCILMAN, THIS IS A SUBJECT THAT.
IS SORELY NEEDED HERE AT THE CITY AND AND THAT STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON TO BRING US AN ORGANIZED APPROACH TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THE CITY.
WHAT OUR GOAL IS TODAY IS WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTED WITH SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE INTERESTED IN YOUR INPUT TO THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THIS WILL BE WE'LL HAVE MORE MEETINGS ON THIS.
THIS IS NOT OUR ONLY MEETING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE WILL HAVE PROBABLY EVENTUALLY ACTION ITEMS THAT WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO SOLIDIFY AND FORMALIZE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS CONCERNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY BLESSED RECENTLY.
WE HAVE A NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, MICHELLE HEY.
AND HAS BEEN WORKING WITH MICHELLE AND HAS KIND OF BEEN SERVING IN THAT FUNCTION WHEN GARY MCLEOD LEFT.
I WANT TO THANK MICHELLE DAN, FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND ENERGY YOU PUT IN ON THIS.
SO, MICHELLE, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
THANK YOU. JANELLE, YOU HAVE MY PRESENTATION SLIDES JUST TO GO WITH WHAT? OK, JUST PUT SOME VISUALS TOGETHER.
YOU HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THAT REPORT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA, SO WHY.
EXCITED TO SEE SOME GOOD THINGS HAPPENING FOR GALVESTON.
SO IN ANY WAY WE CAN GET SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHICH INITIATIVES ARE.
THE HIGHEST PRIORITY THEN I'M VERY HAPPY TO PUT THE STRUCTURE TOGETHER AND.
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START MAKING SOME THINGS HAPPEN.SO, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST SLIDE TO THESE.
SO WE OF COURSE, WE'VE MET WITH EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH ME AND TALKING ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOW YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
I WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THAT EFFORT BACK THEN.
AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING WITH THE CURRENT COUNCIL AND THE STAKEHOLDERS AT THAT TIME TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT AN ECONOMIC PLAN FOR THE CITY.
AND IN THE PLAN BASICALLY TOOK MOST OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS FROM THE 2011 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND KIND OF PARED IT ALL UP BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYTHING THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED THAT, YOU KNOW, IN 2013 WERE THINGS THAT WERE ALSO GOALS FROM 2011 AND HONESTLY, ALL THE WAY BACK AS FAR AS MY RESEARCH WENT BACK TO 1965.
SO FOR A LONG TIME, YES, GALVESTON'S WANTED TO SEE THE ECONOMY GROW FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, THE MORE ECONOMIC GROWTH WE CAN HAVE, THE MORE WE CAN DO FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BASICALLY IN THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO JUST GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WAS RISING TO THE TOP AS FAR AS THE PRIORITIES. AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THAT A LOT OF YOU HAVE VERY SIMILAR GOALS AND PRIORITIES AND SAID THAT IT WILL MAKE THINGS QUITE A BIT EASIER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
ALL OF MEMBERS STRESS THAT JOB CREATION, QUALITY OF LIFE, THOSE WERE SIGNIFICANT COMPONENTS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
OTHER COMPONENTS FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT WOULD BE SOUND MONETARY AND FISCAL POLICIES, DECREASING THE TAX BURDEN FOR THE RESIDENTS, ATTRACTING AND RETAINING BUSINESS INDUSTRY AND CREATING EVEN NEW HOME OWNERSHIP, NEW HOME OWNERSHIP, OR ADDRESSING THAT THAT HOUSING WORKFORCE, MIDDLE INCOME ISSUES.
SO. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT LINE, KNOW.
AND THEN FROM WITHIN DEEPER DISCUSSIONS, THE TOP PRIORITIES THAT SEEM TO BE MAJORITY ARE COUNCIL MEMBER MEMBERS FOR WERE INCREASING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE MARITIME INDUSTRY, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, GROWTH ON PELLEKAAN AND INCREASING OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE EMERGING TECH INDUSTRY, BALANCING TOURISM, QUALITY OF LIFE, BUSINESS RETENTION, EXPANSION AGAIN, ATTRACTING SMALL AND MIDSIZE BUSINESSES, INCREASING OPPORTUNITIES TO THE AIRPORT AND CONTINUING INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WERE MENTIONED, PELICAN ISLAND BRIDGE, WHICH I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE UPDATE ON THAT IN THIS MEETING.
SO THAT'S GOOD. WE KNOW THAT TENDS TO BE ON EVERYONE'S RADAR.
WE OF ATTRACTING LNG OVER THE INDUSTRY ON PELICAN ISLAND, DRESSING THE SAME DOME AND MORE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS, CULTURAL ARTS AND SPORTS TOURISM.
SO THOSE ARE ALL SPECIFIC PROJECTS WITHIN THAT WERE ALSO DISCUSSED.
AND THEN ADDITIONAL AREAS OF FOCUS FROM SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBER QUIROGA ADDRESS HOUSING NEEDS FROM WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIALLY CAPTURING SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY WORKFORCE TO BECOME RESIDENTS.
SO IN A NUTSHELL, THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF.
WHAT WAS ON THE RADAR FOR COUNSEL AND WHAT WERE MORE SO FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE. LOOKING TOWARDS SO WE COMPARE THAT WITH I HAD SOME SLIDES FROM A SIMILAR EXERCISE THAT WAS DONE IN 2011 WITH COUNSEL, AND IT WAS AGAIN INTERESTING TO SEE THAT A LOT OF THOSE SAME GOALS AND PRIORITIES WERE ASSIGNED IMPORTANCE BACK THEN AS WELL.
SO THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, RETENTION, STRENGTHENING THE POOR GROWTH AND PELICANO AND BETTER UTILIZATION OF AIRPORT HOUSING AND IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE OBVIOUSLY ARE ALL IMPORTANT IN 2011, JUST AS THEY SEEM TO BE TODAY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE LOOKED AT THE TWENTY EIGHTEEN ECONOMIC PLAN AND WANTED TO FIGURE OUT, OK, THESE ARE ALL ONGOING, SEEM TO BE ONGOING GOALS AND INITIATIVES AND
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PRIORITIES, SO. LOOK WHAT SOME OF THESE WE'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED ARE WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF ACCOMPLISHING SO WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND TOOK THAT ECONOMIC PLAN AND UPDATED IT.SO WERE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME AT THE SORT OF END OF THAT PLAN WAS PRIORITIZING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A SPECIFIC INITIATIVE IN THE CITY, IN FACT, THAT I'M HERE.
AND THERE'S THIS PUSH AND WE'RE HAVING THIS EXERCISE RIGHT NOW MEANS THE CITY IS PRIORITIZING IT SO WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME PROGRESS.
THERE ARE THERE ARE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS IMPLEMENTED BROADWAY CORRIDOR, ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT PLAN AND DESIGNATING NORTH BROADWAY DISTRICT FOUR FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT I WANT TO LOOK TO OFFER A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION ON TODAY.
IS IT STILL. SOMETHING THAT IS OF IMPORTANCE.
IF SO, THEN I WILL WORK ON PUTTING TOGETHER SOME STRUCTURE AND A PLAN FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD COMPLETELY EXISTING PRODUCTS IN THE PIPELINE.
DEVELOPING AN ECONOMIC PLAYBOOK FOR TRACKING WHAT THESE INITIATIVES ARE AND WHO ARE THE PARTY ENTITIES AND WHAT ARE THEIR ROLES.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL AND EMPOWER THE GALVESTON ISLAND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE RTA, TO BE THE REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR GALVESTON.
SO THOSE WERE ALL SO THE MAJOR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME ON JULY 18.
AND I'LL GO THROUGH I THOUGHT, WELL, I'VE THAT SEVERAL SLIDES AND ACTUALLY BREAK OUT ALL OF THOSE. TO GIVE YOU UPDATES ON WHERE WE ARE, SO I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY, IF THAT'S WHAT STARTS BOTHERING YOU, LET ME KNOW.
BUT BUT IT WAS NICE TO GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE BECAUSE IT MADE ME FEEL GOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING.
AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS WILL BE ONGOING, I'M SURE, FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
SO THE COMPONENT FOR MONITORING FISCAL POLICY, CONTINUING MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, COMPREHENSIVE CONSERVATIVE BUDGET PLANNING EFFORTS IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, EVERYTHING I HAVE IN BLUE OR KIND OF THE UPDATES IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY WITH MR. LOCKED IN, THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH BUDGETING AND PUTTING TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE FORECAST ISD CONSERVATIVE IN THIS FORECAST.
SO THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL FOR US.
AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER AREAS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE METHODS FOR COLLECTING TAX REVENUE. SO ONE EXAMPLE IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WITH PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE TO. CAPTURE MORE OF THOSE HOT COLLECTIONS, SO WE'RE GETTING THROUGH AND MAKING SOME PROGRESS THROUGH THIS OBJECTIVE, THE OBJECTIVE OF DEVELOPING STRATEGIES FOR GROWING THE TAX BASE BEYOND JUST THOSE INCREASING VALUATIONS EACH YEAR FROM THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WE WANT TO ADD NEW TAX ROLLS, A NEW PROPERTY TAX.
ALSO ONE EXAMPLE THAT I CAME UP WITH.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RECYCLING CENTER.
WE'RE RECONFIGURING IT ON A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, THEREBY ALLOWING US TO TAKE THAT EXCESS ACREAGE AND PUTTING IT UP FOR SALE THROUGH A BIDDING PROCESS.
SO HAVING THAT PROPERTY GO BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS.
SO THAT'S AT LEAST GEARED TOWARDS THIS OBJECTIVE AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT HOW WE ADDRESS THESE, PARTING WITH THE GDP, WE GET LEADS THAT COME INTO THE STATE.
WE MAY HAVE PHONE CALLS THAT COME IN AND REALLY TRYING TO HAVE A KIND OF A TEAM EFFORT IN CAPTURING THESE THINGS. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.
SO LEVERAGING PUBLIC SECTOR INVESTMENT THAT THAT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE TALK ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF OUR STRATEGIC INVESTMENT AREAS THROUGHOUT GALVESTON, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE UTILIZING U.S.
FUNDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND TO ME, THAT'S A IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE BECAUSE WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AT WEST MARKET STREET, ON THE SIDEWALK AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE LITTLE BUSINESSES POP UP, SMALL BUSINESSES OPENING UP OVER THERE.
SO THAT CORRIDOR IS BECOMING MORE ACTIVE.
AND THAT'S CERTAINLY, IN MY OPINION, KNOW PUBLIC INVESTMENT WE PUT IN THERE NOW IS CREATING SOME PRIVATE INVESTMENT AS WELL.
AND THEN ALSO GOING TO SEE THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE
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PROCESS OF DOING SOME DESIGN WORK ON THAT DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR, THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT. WE PUT IN SOME OF OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS, AND THAT WILL HELP.STIMULATE. SOME PRIVATE INVESTMENTS, THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF.
HOW WE'RE KIND OF GETTING THOSE OBJECTIVES AND STRENGTHENING IS STRENGTHENING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CITIES, PUBLIC POLICIES ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NO IMPACT ON CITY FINANCIAL PLANNING EFFORTS.
NOW, THESE ARE WORKS IN PROGRESS.
SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING HERE TODAY AND IN SOME FUTURE MEETINGS, I'M SURE, OF HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS? HOW WILL WE.
HOW WILL WE WANT TO USE THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX? THERE ARE LOTS OF INCENTIVE PACKAGES OR TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE.
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS DIRECTION FROM COUNCILMAN ON.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE, YOU KNOW, I CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON, OK, IF WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT COMES IN, IT'S GOING TO BRING X NUMBER OF JOBS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS CAPITAL INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL BE WILLING TO DO THIS, THIS OR THIS AND SOME REALLY KIND OF GETTING TARGETING SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT WITH SOME INPUT FROM YOU TO BRING THAT BACK.
SO THEN HE HIT THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE INVESTMENT GOING INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, PARKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
I AGAIN, CITY HAS BEEN INVESTING QUITE A BIT IN INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THAT PARKS IN OUR ISD SEE A SILO.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO SCHULTZ.
PARK CITY HAS ITS PARKS AND MASTER PLAN THAT WE ARE USING AS A ROAD MAP.
WE ACTUALLY ACTUALLY WILL BE WE'VE KICKED OFF THE SANDHILL CRANES SOCCER COMPLEX PROJECT.
WE WILL BE HAVING A MEETING, A COMMUNITY MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY AT SIX O'CLOCK.
WE JUST GOT CONFIRMATION ON THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WHERE IT WILL BE AT THE REC CENTER IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE FOR THE CENTRAL WELL, WHERE WE CAN GET ENOUGH PEOPLE AND WE DON'T WANT TO MEET OUT AT THE SOCCER COMPLEX BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. SO IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER TO THAT IF THEY WILL LET US DO IT FOR FREE.
SURE. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT I'VE TALKED TO THAT ARE ON THE SOCCER BOARDS AND HAVE KIDS THAT PLAY OUT THERE AREN'T NECESSARILY LIVING OUT BY THE SOCCER COMPLEX AND FROM THIS PARTICULAR EXERCISE YARD.
GOING TO BE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME AERIAL MAPS AND THEN KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE STRUCTURE IN THE FIELD.
THE LOCATIONS WILL BE AVAILABLE.
ANYWAY, THE ANSWER THAT WILL BE HAPPENING NEXT WEDNESDAY.
NOW, AS FAR AS GROWING PERMANENT POPULATION BASE IN GALVESTON, THERE WAS AN ITEM DEVELOPING A PUBLICITY CAMPAIGN ON WORK HERE, LIVE HERE.
WE WITH THE IDC, WE DID THE I HEART RADIO AND THE DAILY NEWS MEDIA CAMPAIGNS.
WE ACTUALLY GO AND HE'S JUST BEEN THE I HEART RADIO IS ONGOING UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
I'M HOPING TO GET SOME METRICS BACK TO IDC AND TO COUNCILMAN.
HOW THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN GOING, SO THAT WAS A KIND OF FIRST TRIAL AT.
DOING SOME TYPE OF AWARENESS, AND IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL THEN CAMPAIGNS, THEN I'LL PROBABLY DO A PRETTY GOOD DEEP DOVE ON REALLY GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK. SO I CAN COME BACK WITH THAT, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO CONTINUE FOR NEXT TO NOW DEVELOP AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
WE'RE CURRENTLY ANALYZING THE POLICIES AND ROLES OF THE RDA OLSEN HOUSING, FINANCE AND
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ACCOUNTING FINANCE AUTHORITY.I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE FOUR SHORTLY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION AND IT WILL BE UP THE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE. WHAT WE WANT TO DO THERE DEVELOP A CONCEPT WITHIN MATRIX FOR MARKETING THE COST OF LIVING ON THE ISLAND ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS.
THE FINAL APPRAISAL VALUES AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT, WE CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH PRETTY GOOD METRICS FOR THE COST OF LIVING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND HAVE THAT STRENGTHENING OF CONSISTENT CODE ENFORCEMENT COMMUNICATION.
WE HAVEN'T PUT ENFORCEMENT, OBVIOUSLY.
YOU SEE, MY STAFF IS DOING THAT.
THAT'S ONE COMPONENT THAT'S THAT'S IN THE WORKS.
NEXT TO NELLIE. SO DEVELOPING STRATEGIES TO LEVERAGE THE IMPACTS OF TOURISM WITH THE RESIDENTS OF GALVESTON.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT TOURISM IS A PRETTY BIG COMPONENT OF OUR ECONOMIC BASE HERE, AND WE.
SO. I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES HERE HAS BEEN TO DEVELOP SPORTING FACILITIES IN GALVESTON, THAT WILL BE A BENEFIT FOR OUR KIDS, OUR RESIDENTS HERE, BUT ALSO THAT COMPONENT OF THE SPORTS TOURISM WOULD ALLOW SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COSTS TO BE TAKEN ON BY THE TOURISM.
SO HAVING FOR THE BASEBALL COMPLEX COMPLETED THIS PROCESS SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE SOCCER COMPLEX RENOVATED.
THOSE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE TWO GREAT FACILITIES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE USED TO ATTRACT. AND THEN WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PRIVATE DONOR FOR THE LAST WEEK OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SUMRALL CONFLICT, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING SOME THINGS THROUGH AND THERE SHOULD HAVE SOME SOME THINGS BACK FOR DISCUSSION HERE PRETTY SOON.
AND THEN IN THE RED, HERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED THAT WE STILL NEED TO HAVE. WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS ON, SO YOU REALLY NEED TO IMPLEMENT SOME COORDINATION, PEACE BETWEEN THESE FACILITIES.
SO WE HAVE THE CITY OLSEN FACILITIES, PARKLAND AND MANAGES SOME AND THEN WE HAVE FACILITY OWNERS SUCH AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO HOLD CHARMIN OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THEN WE REALLY NEED ONE CENTRAL HUB FOR AT LEAST ONE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE CIVIC REC, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE USING TO COORDINATE AND BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE.
AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD THAT WE GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE BEING ABLE TO DO THIS. I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON IT, BUT WE JUST HAD SOME TRAINING ON IT HERE RECENTLY. SO THAT IS IN THE WORKS.
BUT IT STILL IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT STEP OF REALLY BRINGING IN TOURNAMENTS.
AND PERSONALLY, WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT SOME COMMUNICATION TOOL FOR NOTIFICATION WHEN THESE EVENTS HAPPEN, SO EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE.
IF SOMEONE'S HAVING A SOCCER TOURNAMENT OR A BASEBALL TOURNAMENT, THEN IT'S GREAT TO HAVE. SOME COMMUNICATION THROUGH SOME TURBULENCE THAT WILL TELL FOLKS, OK, THIS EVENT IS HAPPENING IN A WAY THAT WILL DRAW MAYBE SOME RESIDENTS TO GO AND ATTEND.
IT WILL ALSO TELL THE FOLKS YOU NEED TO GO AND HAVE TO GET TO THE SOCCER FIELDS EVERY SATURDAY, OK? THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THAT WE CHANGE OUR PLANS.
AND SO, UM, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN KEEPING THAT BALANCE AND THE TOURISM PART WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF.
ENJOY YOUR. AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY AT SOME POINT THIS KICKS OFF, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A SPORTS AUTHORITY, UM, THAT KIND OF MATCHES THOSE FIELDS AND CONFLICTS AND THAT'LL BE SOMETHING.
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THAT I THINK AT SOME POINT WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON, UM, AND THEN I'D LOVE TO AT SOME POINT GO PUT TOGETHER WITH OUR PR GUY FOR AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY.WE COULD DO BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENTS AND EVEN HAVE OUR LOCAL LEAGUES BE ABLE TO UTILIZE. THAT'S ONE AREA IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, ISN'T WEATHER DEPENDENT.
THOSE ARE SPORTS THAT CAN BE DONE ALL YEAR ROUND.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE THAT HAVE CHILDREN IN THESE SPORTS THAT DRIVE ALL OVER KADEE AND BEYOND TO PARTICIPATE AND IN TOURNAMENTS ALL OVER.
AND I'D LOVE TO BE DOING THIS LOCALLY AND I THINK WE CAN BENEFIT AS WELL.
WE GO INTO JOB CREATION AND RETENTION, NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, SO WE WANT TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM FOR SEARCH ENGINES FOR OUR OWN BUSINESSES.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH GDP AND INITIALLY WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS EVEN PRIOR TO ME LEAVING THE GDP WITH THE CHAMBER AND OTHER PARTNERS FOR LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN PULL TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO TAKE ON DIFFERENT ROLES.
SO. WHETHER IT'S LARGE INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES BEING TAKEN ON, I MEAN, GDP IS OUTREACH.
THE CHAMBER PROVIDING THAT SMALL BUSINESS OR THE WORKFORCE TRAINING PROGRAMS WITH THE COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, JUST.
WE HAVE A CITY TO KNOW WHAT THE HELP OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS AND CERTAINLY DON'T WANT YOU TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT A VERY LARGE BUSINESSES SHUT DOWN WHAT, THE ISLAND.
BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES AND WE'RE NOT AWARE OF IT BEFORE IT HAPPENS AND WE'RE LOSING THOSE. TAX REVENUES.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF THIS COMMUNITY.
STRENGTHENED IN COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS TO THE SUPPORT GALSON FOR PRIMARY JOB EXPANSION.
SO, UM, I'VE JUST RECENTLY MET WITH THE PORT DIRECTORS POSITION HERE AND.
WE CHATTED ABOUT WHAT THEIR SHORT AND MID-TERM GOALS ARE AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AND SCHEDULE SOME OF THESE QUARTERS MEANS THAT WHEN WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, WHAT THEIR EFFORTS ARE AND IF THERE ARE WAYS. FOR US TO COLLABORATE.
JUST BE THERE IN A SUPPORTIVE ROLE, BUT.
SINCE THIS WAS A HIGH PRIORITY WITH ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBER IS TO INCREASE HIS OPPORTUNITIES THERE, I THINK HAVING THIS.
CONTINUE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION.
WELL, WE'LL CONTINUE WHAT'S GOING ON.
JANELLE TARGETED MARKETING INITIATIVE.
SO THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE SLIDES WE GIVE TO THE ISD SILO TO GET INVOLVED IN THE CAMPAIGN.
SO FOR THOSE OF. WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE TRACKING OF.
METRICS. BUT I SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING BACK HERE BY OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT WILL DETERMINE HOW THINGS HAVE GONE.
DO SOMETHING, PUT TOGETHER THESE TYPES OF CAMPAIGNS OR WE WANT TO SHIFT FOCUS AND I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, BUT I WANT TO BRING THIS BACK AND A FUTURE MEETING AND GIVE YOU GUYS.
SO WE HAVE A LAND BANK FOR ACQUIRING PROPERTIES, POWER, REDEVELOPMENT, AND AGAIN, WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION LATER ON AND FOLLOW UP MEETINGS.
AND THAT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
DEVELOPMENT FOR. DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES ARE FOR PERFORMANCE SECTOR WITHIN THE
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EDUCATIONAL SECTOR FOR CREATING INNOVATIVE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. SO I SAT ON A PANEL, A WORKFORCE PANEL RECENTLY WITH THE ROUNDTABLE ON FOUNDATIONS, AND SO THERE IS DEFINITELY AN EFFORT BY OUR FOUNDATIONS TO FIGURE OUT WAYS AND PROGRAMS THEY CAN ASSIST HERE.SO. SITTING ON, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY JUST BEING AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING FOR THE CITY AT THIS POINT, YOU DO, BUT SUPPORT AND KNOW WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE AND WHAT'S, YOU KNOW.
WHAT SOME OF OUR PARTNERING ENTITIES ARE DOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT.
SUPPORT EMERGING TECHNOLOGY INITIATIVES, INCLUDING LOCAL AND REGIONAL ASSET DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING IN.
A HACKATHON HERE COMING UP, I BELIEVE IT'S IN OCTOBER WITH BETWEEN GALVESTON BAY, GALVESTON, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE CREATING A PROBLEM SET FOR OTHER FOLKS TO TACKLE.
THERE'S A LITTLE COMPETITION AND THE WINNERS WILL ACTUALLY PRESENT THEIR PROJECTS TO AN COUNCILMAN IN THE FUTURE.
UH ISD ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A LITTLE MORE COLLABORATIVE WITH THEIR EFFORTS.
THANK YOU. YOU GO ON TO NELLIE.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE PRIORITIZING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A SPECIFIC WE'RE ALMOST THERE, SO I THINK I HAVE A FEW MORE SLIDES PRIORITIZED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A SPECIFIC INITIATIVE IN SETTING UP THOSE.
SIX OR SO PRIORITIES IN THE VERY BEGINNING.
THAT JUST THAT BREAKS IT OUT MORE SPECIFICALLY.
SO I TOUCHED UPON THIS A LITTLE BIT WITH.
SO THE GDP RECENTLY CREATED A DIGITAL BUSINESS GUY THAT WE.
HELP ME WITH THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DO, I BELIEVE, QUARTERLY, AND WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT INFORMATION TO THE CITY SIDE, THEY'LL GO OUT AND LOOK AT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND TRY TO PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SIT DOWN IN AND PUT ON OUR WEBSITE TO.
GET INFORMATION. AND THEN WE'VE LOOKED I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OUR WEB SITE AND TRYING TO LOOK FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DEVELOPER COMING IN TO SEE IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE USER FRIENDLY.
WE HAVE COME UP WITH SOME THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, AND I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND THEY'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED AND CREATED FILLABLE PDF FOR ALL OF OUR FORMS AND APPLICATIONS THAT WERE IN THE PLANNING PERMITTING SITE.
AND OUR NEW PLANNING TECH HAS ALREADY CREATED THE FORMS. THEY JUST I UP, I BELIEVE, LAST WEEK.
SO I ACTUALLY HAVE TO TAKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
AND THEN WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT MAKING THINGS EASIER.
WE HAVE AN ELDER ON THE WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN SEARCH ON.
UM, THERE AREN'T LINKS TO THE SPECIFIC PAGES.
AND SO WITH A TWO OR THREE HUNDRED PAGE DOCUMENT, IT JUST GETS A LITTLE CUMBERSOME, UM, TRYING TO MOVE THROUGH IT TO FIND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO WE'LL JUST IMPLEMENT A FEW THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WILL HELP US.
FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO DO BUSINESS OR DEVELOP IN THE CITY AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND SO FRIENDLY, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THEM AND BRING.
UM. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE COMMUNICATION METHODOLOGY OF TRYING TO COORDINATE OUR IC CITY COUNCIL FOR DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES, THAT'S AGAIN PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
I'M HOPING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME.
AT LEAST QUARTERLY CONVERSATIONS TO UPDATE.
BOTH ABC AND COUNCIL ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORLD HERE AS WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, ARE VARIOUS INITIATIVES AND DIRECTIVES THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE AND WE'RE KIND OF IN THIS LOCK STEP.
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NEXT, THE. THERE ARE THESE SLIDES YOU JUST ABOUT FINISHED GOING THROUGH THESE PARTICULAR. YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE HERE.THERE ARE PROBABLY SIX OF THOSE PRIORITIES, IF YOU PREFER.
WE HAVE YOU ALL REVIEW THEM AND GET BACK WITH ME.
WAS SHE GOING THROUGH IT? SURE. GO, GO, GO AHEAD.
OK, WOULD KIND OF RUN THROUGH.
COORDINATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SPOKESMAN.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY IN THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, PREDEVELOPMENT MEETINGS AND I'VE BEEN WALKING THROUGH I'VE GOT A GREAT WHITEBOARD NOW IN MY OFFICE THAT HAS SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT I'M HELPING AND ASSISTING ON AND MAKING SURE THAT IF THINGS AREN'T GOING SMOOTHLY WHERE I CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE.
DEFINITELY KEPT KEPT ME A LITTLE BIT BUSY ON TOP OF THIS, BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT COMPONENT OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND ENHANCING RESOURCES.
I'VE ACTUALLY COME ACROSS A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOFTWARE THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR IT YET TO BE TRACKING.
IF WE START, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S MORE THREE AGREEMENTS OR MORE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS THAT YOU'RE TASKING DEVELOPERS WITH AND THERE IS SOME REALLY GOOD TRACKING SOFTWARE TO KEEP UP WITH IT AND ESPECIALLY.
FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, SO, UM, THOSE COULD BE TWO YEARS LATER, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S STUFF THAT'LL COME NEXT SLIDE.
NOW. UH, YEAH, THAT IS TO BE ANNOUNCED BECAUSE WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING THE ROLE IN WHAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED, SO WE'LL FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL STAFF DOWN THE ROAD, IMPLEMENT THE BROADWAY QUIROGA PROGRAM.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE YOUR INPUT ON.
THE BROADWAY AD HOC COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH SOME.
DESIGN CONCEPTS, AND I THINK IT WAS ADOPTED SOME.
OH, GOSH, A COUPLE OF YEARS OR SO AGO, THERE WAS PRETTY MUCH AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM OR PROGRAM THAT WAS DISCUSSED, BUT NOT COMPLETELY DEVELOPED AT THE TIME, AND I CAN GO THROUGH AND COMPLETE THAT PROCESS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL OF INTEREST IN COUNCILWOMAN.
IF SO, I CAN WORK ON THAT WITH OUR SERVICES STAFF AND STRUCTURE BACK.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY INPUT ON THAT, OK, GREAT, LET'S GO AHEAD, FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION.
NEXT HOUR OF PILOT PROJECTS WITH BUSINESS OWNERS THINK THAT STILL IS GOING TO.
ALL OF THAT ACTUALLY FALLS UNDER THIS BROADWAY CORRIDOR.
SO WE WILL YOU YOU CAN JUMP TO THE NEXT ONE DESIGNATE NORTH BROADWAY DISTRICT, BRAMBILLA ENVELOPMENT. YEAH, THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOPMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED ALREADY IN THAT AREA.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD LOOKING FOR COUNCIL FOR A LITTLE DIRECTION ON IT.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO.
IF THIS IS STILL A TOP PRIORITY, THEN I'LL BRING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BACK AS WELL, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE AREA IN HOUSING FINANCE FOR, UM, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS VISION.
GALVESTON HAS THEM BOTH GALVESTON INITIATIVE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A LEAD ON THAT AND WE JUST.
DO OUR THING IN OTHER AREAS, THEN I JUST LITTLE DIRECTION.
NEXT. UM, SAME THING, I THINK THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING DONE TO THE EDUCATION MR. GRANTS AND HOUSING DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS A GREAT JOB WITH THIS.
I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH MS. LAW AND SHE FILLED ME IN ON EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE RDA HEARING A LITTLE BIT FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW.
OH, THOSE EXISTING PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, SO WE KNOW REPLACEMENT BRIDGE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OUR EARMARKS IN DOLLARS FOR THAT FANTASY AND PROBABLY GET OUT OF HERE SHORTLY ON WHAT'S CALLED INCINERATOR'S BEEN CAPPED.
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AND THESE OTHER COMPONENTS OVER HERE, PROBABLY ON BROADWAY.I'M ACTUALLY WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM OUR COUNTY FOLKS AND WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THAT PROPERTY AND FOR THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING IT OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
SO AND AGAIN, UH, AIRPORT PROPERTY.
THIS WAS A DISCUSSION WE'LL BRING BACK.
WITH SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT ROLE FOR GALVESTON, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT IN.
THESE ARE ALL OPPORTUNITIES AND PROJECTS.
BUT LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE AND THEN THAT PLAYBOOK FOR TRACKING DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES, UM.
THIS GOES WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR THE 9/11 PLAN, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THESE PARTNERING ENTITIES, THE CHAMBER, THE GDP, THE COUNTRY, PART OF THE GST. THESE AREN'T NECESSARY THINGS THAT THE CITY ALONE CAN TACKLE THE.
KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW ON ENTITIES ARE DOING OR BEING SUPPORTED BY THE MS., I THINK IT'S HELPFUL. AND JUST GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW IT ALL RELATES TO OUR NEXT SUCCESS ON.
AND THEN HERE WERE THE EMPOWERING THE RDA TO BECOME THE REDEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE IN DALLAS, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS WITHIN TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'VE GOT THAT CHECKED OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE CLOSE TERMS, 12 AND 14, SO WE'RE THE ONLY HAVE 13 AT THIS TIME.
BY UTILIZING THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, COORDINATORS ARE USING MYSELF AS THE STAFF CHIEF RDA OR THAT LIAISON, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE RTA AND THOSE GROUPS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT I CAN.
LIAISON TEAM THEN REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON.
WHAT THEIR DIRECTIVES OR ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE IN THREE MONTHS AS STANDARD FOR, UM.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST WAYS, EASIEST WAY TO GO FOR COUNCILMAN IS LIKE ALL THE OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE.
JANELLE. HOW MANY MORE ACCOMPLISHMENTS TRUSTEE.
GO AHEAD AND WE'LL READ THOSE.
YEAH, THESE ARE ALL MOST OF THESE ARE ONGOING ANYWAY, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MESS WITH ANY MORE SLIDES IF YOU ALL WANT ME JUST TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE ROBB.
WELL, LET ME ASK THIS TO SHOW.
HOW MANY MORE SLIDES DO YOU HAVE? WELL, THIS GOES INTO SOME OF THE RDA STRUCTURE NOW, SO.
THAT COMPLETES THE ECONOMIC PLAN.
OK? THOSE ARE JUST THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN USED OR GALICIANS USED OR IS USING FOR THEIR ECONOMIC EFFORTS AND.
PROBABLY SOUNDS LIKE ME, JUST GIVE ME AN IDEA WHAT WE'RE USING NOW.
OK. AND AGAIN, THE NEXT SLIDES WILL JUST GO OVER THAT ARDIENTE STRUCTURE.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT LET'S STOP HERE FOR A SECOND, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
WE TALKED ABOUT AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.
DO YOU HAVE THAT? YES, THAT. LET'S START WITH THAT.
AND I WANT TO GET COUNCILMAN INPUT ON THAT.
OK, YOU GO YOU GO TO THE SLIDE.
EIGHT. LET'S COME BACK TO THE BASICS AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF EXPAND BEYOND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH A CHART AND LET ME SAY THIS COUNCIL, WE PARK THE DISCUSSION WITH OUR CONCERNING RDA AND GAVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND HOW IT INTERRELATES WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE ON OUR WORKSHOP COMING UP ON THE TWENTY SECOND FLOOR.
OK, SO COULD YOU GO THROUGH THIS AND KIND OF BRIEFLY AT SOME POINT, JUST FOR THE FLOW OF COMMUNICATION AND COORDINATION, HAVING CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, GIVE THOSE
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DIRECTIVES TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THROUGH MY SPENDING MYSELF AS THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN COORDINATOR, UM, I WILL BE THE LIAISON TO THE IBISES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.SILOW AND THE RTA THAT GALSON HOUSING FINANCE, THE GALSON PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY.
THAT WAY I COULD KEEP TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON, SEE HOW THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEIR INITIATIVES, MAKING SURE THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIVES COUNCIL HAS PUT FORTH AND THEN PASS THAT ALONG. GOING BACK TO.
BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, MICHEL, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT THE TOOLS THAT THE CITY USES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARE THE FOUR ACROSS THE BOTTOM LINE.
THAT'S THE WE HAD AND THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS PRESENTATION, OTHER THAN A HISTORY TO FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE, HOW WE GOT TO HERE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WANT TO USE THESE VARIOUS TOOLS AS WE GO FORWARD.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CHARGE THE RBA WITH? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CHARGE OLSEN HOUSING AND PROPERTY FINANCE WITH? AND AND HOW DO WE BEST UTILIZE THE ECONOMIC RESOURCES WE HAVE TO CARRY OUT THE MISSION AND THE IDEAS OF COUNCILMAN, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT USING ANY OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, THE WHOLE THING IS THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE TO US THAT THEY WOULD BE THROUGH THESE ORGANIZATIONS. I'VE SEEN IT FOR THREE AGREEMENTS FOR US.
AND IN TERMS OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES WOULD FALL WITHIN ONE OF THOSE ENTITIES. I THINK THAT THEY WOULD FALL UNDER ONE OF THOSE ENTITIES.
THAT THE FOREIGN TRADE ZONE IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT THE PORT WILL THEY APPROVE, BUT WE HAVE SERIOUS FOREIGN TRADE ZONES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOR, AND THAT'S WHY AID TO THAT IS SOMETHING IF IT BRINGS JOBS, IF IT BRINGS US NOT, NO TAX WILL BRING JOBS AND SALES TAX FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES OR THEIR UNEMPLOYED LIKE THAT WOULDN'T COME THROUGH ONE OF THESE FOR PROBABLY OR DEWITT COMES.
AND JUST FOR LIKE A LETTER OF NO OBJECTION, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE PORT, I THINK YOU WOULD INITIATE IT, THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TAXING ENTITIES ON BOARD THE.
MICHELLE, HAVE YOU PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT OF THE SUGGESTED GOALS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? YES, THE NEXT LINE, YOU KNOW, FOR SHORT TERM.
I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, IS TO REALLY GET A HANDLE ON THE PROCESS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE AND, YOU KNOW.
WHETHER IT'S WET TOOLS WE'RE GOING TO USE, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS DO INDUSTRIES AND HOW WE WORK THROUGH THAT, SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO HIT, SUCH AS INCREASED OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE MARITIME INDUSTRY, THE CITY ALONE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE THAT, BUT WE WILL BE PARTNERING WITH FORD OR WHOMEVER NEEDED TO GET THOSE DONE. SO KNOWING WHAT THE PROCESSES AND THE POLICIES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT, I THINK ARE GOING TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I LIKE TO TACKLE THIS YEAR.
AND THEN MY MEETINGS WITH VAN SLYKE JUST BELOW THAT CHAMBER AND THE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE TRYING TO JUST SIT DOWN HERE AND ALL OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE DEPENDENT UPON THE GUIDANCE COUNCIL PROVIDED TO STAFF.
I MEAN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THIS HISTORY LESSON TODAY IS WHERE WE COME FROM.
AND WE HAVE MADE SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN OVER ALL THE YEARS.
BUT WE WERE AT A TIME IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO BRING FORWARD SOMETHING, TO TRY TO ESTABLISH THE NEW PRIORITIES OF COUNCILMAN, WHICH TOOLS WE'RE GOING TO USE, HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN FOCUS MICHELLE'S TIME ON THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS.
RIGHT NOW, SHE'S THE OMBUDSMAN.
ANY BUSINESSES THAT COME TO US.
SHE HANDLES THEM AND AND WALKS THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD.
IS THAT CLEAR GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL ON.
HERE'S WHERE WE WANT WHETHER WE WANT A GROCERY STORE OR WHETHER WE WANT TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS AT THE AIRPORT OR OR WHEREVER.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT. AND SO WE WANTED TO SORT OF GIVE YOU JUST THE BACKGROUND AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE'D IMPLEMENT IT ONCE WE GET RECEIVE AND AND GET THAT FROM YOU GUYS AND WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. MUCH THE SAME THING I DID.
YES, SO MANY OF THE LARGE EMPLOYERS, MAJOR RETAIL STORES, YOU KNOW, GETTING A HANDLE ON WHO'S ALREADY HERE AND ALREADY DOING BUSINESS HERE AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE'S ASSISTANCE NEEDED, WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW KIND OF WHAT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND SOMETHING IS. WE FOUND OUT THAT SUPPORT IS THERE'S THERE'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY HERE. IT'S THERE'S OBSTACLES THAT ARE PREVENTING THEM FROM COMING HERE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER
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IT'S WE'RE IN A HURRICANE PRONE AREA.SO CERTAIN BUSINESSES AREN'T INTERESTED IN COMING HERE, WHETHER THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE ANTI-COMPETITIVE FROM THEIR BUSINESS, WHATEVER THAT IS.
AND ARE THOSE OBSTACLES THAT WE AS A CITY CAN OVERCOME TO TRY TO ATTRACT THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES HERE. SO THERE'S THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FOCUS THAT WE CAN BE MORE DEFINITIVE ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN BUSINESSES THAT WE CAN THERE'S A CERTAIN INDUSTRY OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO TARGET, THEN, YEAH, GIVE ME THE GREEN LIGHT.
AND WILL YOU HAVE LONG TERM OBJECTIVES NOW WITH THIS? I DIDN'T PUT THE LONG TERM OBJECTIVES IN HERE.
WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
BUT BASED UPON WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAPPEN IN THE SHORT TERM, WE'RE PROBABLY DEPENDENT. WELL, THEN HELP ME WITH THOSE LONG TERM OBJECTIVES AS WELL.
AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SAY, I WANT TO MENTION A STATEMENT FOR THE AUDIENCE WITH THE RDA, LET'S SAY THAT IN TWO SLIDES BACK, TWO SLIDES, PLEASE.
OK, SO THIS IS VERY LONG BECAUSE THIS IS THE THIS IS REALLY THE CURRENT.
PURPOSE, I COULDN'T FIND A TRUE, TRUE, JUST LIKE THREE CENTS MISSION FOR THE RDA CURRENTLY, BUT THIS IS THE MOST RECENT THAT THEY SUBMITTED BACK IN 2006.
YOU KNOW, THE RDA WAS INITIALLY CREATED TO BASICALLY MANAGE THE TERMS. AND AT THE TIME WE HAD THREE INSTEAD OF FOUR.
IN 2006, THEY FILED AMENDED ARTICLES TO INCLUDE ABOUT WE CAN SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS, UM, AND THEN THEY EMPHASIZED INHERED HERE TO PROMOTE, DEVELOP, ENCOURAGE, MAINTAIN HOUSING, EMPLOYMENT, COMMERCE, TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY, TO ADMINISTER MEANJIN, SUPERVISE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VEHICLES AND TOOLS IMPLEMENTED BY OUR BEHALF OR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. AND REALLY, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT ALLOWS US TO.
CAST THE NET WIDE ENOUGH TO OPERATE REDEVELOPING AN ORANGE OR SOME OTHER AREA.
THIS SORT OF BROAD MISSION WHICH REALLY ALREADY EXIST.
IS PROBABLY SPOT ALONG WITH WHERE WE WANT TO THIS THIS MISSION HERE.
IT IT JUST CAST A BARNEVERNET THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IN JAIL UNTIL I KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH WITH ALL THIS IS THIS WAS AN EXCEEDINGLY BROAD SCOPE OF ACTIVITIES.
WHICH COUNCIL CAN THEN DEFINE THROUGH ITS DIRECTION IS DON'T SAY WE WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON X. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU'RE APPOINTING THESE FOLKS AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK FOR WHATEVER COUNCIL'S OBJECTIVES ARE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU GUYS.
AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
THIS IS WHERE DO YOU WANT US TO FOCUS? WHERE DO YOU WANT THE RTA TO FOCUS AND USE THEIR TOOLS? GOT A LOT OF BROAD TOOLS THAT THEY CAN USE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE THE DIRECTION AND STAFF'S OPINION SHOULD COME FROM COUNCILMAN NOT BE AN INDEPENDENT BODY, JUST DOES WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.
BUT WHAT TO DO? YOU HAVE TO FIND WHAT CAN THEY DO AND WHAT WHAT AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE RTA? WELL, IT IS ONLY BEEN USED TO MANAGE THE TURF FOR RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I, I PACK UP AND I SEE THINGS LIKE NUMBER THREE, ANY AREA WHERE A PROJECT IS TO BE WHOLLY OR PARTIALLY FUNDED BY FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS, I PUT THEM IN CHARGE OF PUBLIC ART AND THE PUMPS.
YEAH, BUT THESE ARE THE AUTHORITIES THAT AN RDA HAS.
AND I THINK WHEN THE CITY IMPLEMENTED IT, THEY WANT AS BROAD AS THEY COULD.
I WASN'T HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY ARE WE TALKING OR THAT IS THEIR PURPOSE.
MANAGEMENT OF THESE PROJECTS IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW INITIATIVES.
I MEAN, WHAT IS THE FOCUS OF YOUR HEALTH? YES. I MEAN, IT'S YEAH, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NEVER BEEN GIVEN TO DO WITH THE INVOLVEMENT OF QUESTIONS LIKE RDA, WHATEVER.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS? THEY'LL COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, SAY A CALL CENTER IS LOOKING TO COME IN AND THEY'RE COMPETING. THREE CITIES ARE COMPETING AND THEY CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR INCENTIVES OR THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIS JOB, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NEW GROCERY
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STORE. THAT SOUNDS LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.WELL, IT IS. BUT IF YOU WANT SOME OF THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS AND OVERSEE THAT INSTEAD OF EVERYTHING COMING TO THE COUNCIL, THEN THAT'S WHY YOU PLAY THE BOARD.
I THINK THE THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT MEANS ADDING MORE MEETINGS ARE SET. WELL, ALL RIGHT.
I HEAR IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, HERE'S MY ISSUE WITH THE IDEA IS WE HAVE ENOUGH LITTLE MINI CITY COUNCILS IN THIS TOWN ALREADY THAT ARE MAKING DECISIONS WITHOUT BOTHERING TO COME TO COUNCIL. AND THAT'S THAT'S HOW I'VE ALWAYS HEARD.
SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, IS LET'S CREATE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S GOING TO GO OFF AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND SPEND MONEY AND SO FORTH.
I MEAN, WE HAVE ENOUGH, SHALL WE SAY, INTER AGENCY ISSUES WITH THE PORT, WITH THE PARK BOARD, WITH THE WITH YOU KNOW, I APPLAUD VISION GALVESTON FOR GOING OFF AND DOING THEIR THING BECAUSE WE'RE USING OUR MONEY TO DO IT, ESSENTIALLY.
OH, YEAH. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T THINK WE FUND IT, BUT I DO SAVE MONEY.
BUT THAT I MEAN, WE DO HAVE WE HAVE A VISION, GALVESTON, BUT I'VE SEEN EVERYTHING I SEE DOES COMES TO COUNCILMAN.
AND THE ONLY TIME WE'VE GIVEN THE GALVESTON MONEY WAS THE DEVELOPMENT PART OF OUR CHILDREN'S PART. I'M SORRY.
YOU KNOW, AND THERE ARE DIRECTIVES THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE FOR THE RDA.
THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THEIR BYLAWS IN THEIR STRUCTURE.
WHAT THEY CAN DO IS THEY ISSUE BONDS OR THEY NEED A.
BEING SORT OF A LANDBANK, IF THEY NEED TO PURCHASE OLD DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS AND HANG ON TO THEM OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM REDEVELOPED, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, I HAVE I, I SUPPORT WEBSHOTS THINKING ON THIS IS THAT.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS THAT LEVEL, SO I'M KIND OF I'M KIND OF WORKING THIS OUT IN MY MIND MUCH AS I TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT WE HAVE A FINANCE COMMITTEE HERE AT THE CITY.
WE HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE HAVE THE LANDMARK COMMISSION THAT VETS THESE PROJECTS.
AND SINCE THINGS TO COUNSEL FOR US AND THEY ARE SOMEWHAT OF THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL'S DECISIONS, IT COMES TO THESE GROUPS.
I KIND OF LOOK AT THE RDA IS A SIMILAR BODY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, WHAT THAT SPECIFICALLY MEANS COUNCIL NEEDS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
AND IN THE WAY THIS IS HERE, THAT MEANS ANYTHING.
BUT BUT WE NEED TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
WEIGH IN OR EXCUSE ME, WEIGH IN OR APPROVE AND GO AHEAD.
WELL, BOTH. I MEAN, WE NEED TO WEIGH IN.
AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND DO IT, BRING IT BACK FOR OUR APPROVAL.
I MEAN, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THESE BODIES, THEN WE COULD PAY YOU A SALARY.
THIS COULD BE A FULL TIME POSITION FOR YOU.
RIGHT, EXACTLY. AND THERE ARE SO MANY RULES.
WELL, THERE ARE. AND WITH SOME OF THE OTHER BODIES, LIKE THE GIRLS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, THERE'S ALSO A STATE LAW THAT COMES INTO PLAY THAT ALLOWS THAT BODY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS WHERE INDEPENDENTLY WHERE I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO THAT, THOSE THINGS IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ORGANIZATION INDEPENDENTLY.
THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE KEY RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS 18 MONTHS AGO OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE IT WAS GOING TO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO FLOAT BONDS TO DO WHAT THEY WERE WORKING ON OUT THERE WITHOUT BRINGING UP COUNCILMAN.
THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT APPROVED BY COUNCILMAN.
BUT PERSONALLY, I THINK WE NEED AN ENTITY THAT DOES WHAT JOHN SAID HERE.
WE NEED AN ENTITY THAT, IN MY OPINION, THE COUNCILWOMAN, IF COUNCIL IS PRESENTED FOR SOME SOME WAY OR ANOTHER WITH A PROJECT, WE HAVE AN INTEREST IN SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REMAND THAT BACK TO THE MS. RDA, LET THEM RESEARCH IT, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN BRING THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL FOR OUR EVALUATION AND APPROVAL OR NOT.
AND ALSO, WE NEED AN ENTITY THAT I THINK IS A LIAISON WITH OUTSIDE GROUPS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON THAT WE HAVE HAD.
MICHELLE, SHE WILL BE THE COUNCIL LIAISON EXCUSE ME, STAFF LIAISON FOR FOR THE RTA.
AND SHE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE THOSE PROJECTS BACK TO US, BUT IT'S A TOOL FOR HER TO UTILIZE TO EVALUATE EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, RUN ALL THE VETTING, THESE PROJECTS AND SO FORTH, RUN ALL THE TRAPS AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A RECOMMENDATION.
BUT JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, YOU THINK THE RDA SHOULD BE NEGOTIATING AND THEN BRING IT TO MICHELLE?
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NOT NECESSARILY.CAN YOU? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WELL, AND I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY IN MY MIND, BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I'M TRYING TO GET IT CLEAR IN MY MIND TO GO LOGISTICALLY HOW THIS WORKS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DETERMINE IS HOW WE WANT THAT PROCESS TO WORK.
BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A ROLE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY HERE IN THE CITY THAT IS FAR MORE EXPANSIVE THAN THE WAY WE'VE UTILIZED IN THE PAST.
CAN I JUST A LITTLE RDA HAS TO EXIST RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE TERMS WHERE YOU CAN'T DO AWAY WITH THE RDA MUST EXIST.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE A METHODOLOGY WHERE COUNCIL IS GOING TO TELL OUR VIEWERS THE TOOLS THAT WILL ENTERTAIN 380, WHETHER WE LIKE TERS OR ELECTOR'S OR THEY IN FAVOR, OUT OF FAVOR. SO WHEN THEY'RE WORKING, MICHELLE IS WORKING AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH ANYBODY TO COME IN OR TO REDEVELOP AN AREA OF THE CITY, KNOW WHAT TOOLS COUNCIL IS WILLING TO LET THEM USE IN THAT EFFORT TOWARD ACHIEVING OUR OBJECTIVES BEING COUNCIL'S OBJECTIVES. UM, THANKS.
I JUST DON'T I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU.
I DON'T LIKE TO WORK. AND I MEAN, I'M A BITE MY TONGUE, BUT I SOMEWHAT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THERE ARE AN INDEPENDENT CORPORATION.
I CAN EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE THAN AN BIGGEST CHECK YOU HAVE ON MS..
IF THEY'RE GONNA FUND BONDS, THEY CAN COME IN TO PAY FOR FOOD.
CAN THEY SPEND CITY MONEY WITHOUT COUNCILWOMAN? NO, NO.
WELL, NOT EVERYBODY LIKE THAT CAN, BUT THEY DON'T GO TO THE CITY.
WHAT? THEY DON'T GET FUNDED BY THE CITY? WELL, THEY DON'T GET FUNDED BY THE CITY.
SO THEY GET THE MONEY. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T GET FUNDED.
THE ONLY WAY THESE BOARDS HAVE OPERATED, THE ONES THAT HAVE SPENT MONEY LIKE THE LIKE THE HOUSE VERSION IS THEY'VE GONE OUT AND MADE THEIR OWN MONEY AND THEN THEY'VE SPENT THAT MONEY DOING PROJECTS.
THE CITY HAS HASN'T GIVEN THAT BOARD ONE DIME AND THE EXISTENCE OF THE BOARD, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT'S TRUE. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THEM SPENDING CITY MONEY, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND ANY CITY MONEY.
MAY I ANSWER WITH AN EXACT, QUOTE, KNIFE? ABSOLUTELY. I GENERALLY AGREE WITH YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE A PLACE.
HOWEVER, QUESTION WAS, HAVE THEY SPENT ANY CITY MONEY WITHOUT ANY OF THE ANSWER IS ACTUALLY YES, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN CHARGE TO APPROVE EXPENDITURES SUBMITTED TO THEM BY THE TERS IS THE TERS FUNDS ARE ACTUALLY CITY FUNDS BECAUSE THEY DERIVE TAXES AND THAT'S THE THAT'S PART IT. BUT TO THAT EXTENT, THE ANSWER IS YES.
AND THEY'VE PAID AND MEIXELL, YOU KNOW, AND THEY DON'T COME TO YOU FOR THAT, BUT THEY'RE ABOUT TO DO THAT. YEAH, BUT IN A VERY FINE POINT, I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
BUT THE CITY HAS GIVEN THEM THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
OH, YEAH. SO SO THERE ARE SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES HERE.
THE GULSON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAS DONE THIS ON THEIR OWN INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT ANY MONEY. AND SO, I MEAN, I THINK THE FIRST THING WE DECIDE IS WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE WE BE VERY POINTED ON HOW WE WANT THEM TO DO IT AND GIVE THEM THOSE DIRECTIONS. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T WANT THEM BOUGHT OUT.
THEY'RE JUST TOTALLY HAVING AUTONOMY AND WORKING ON THEIR OWN, ESPECIALLY IF WE DO GET THE MONEY. BUT I THINK THERE'S WAYS TO DO THIS THAT ARE VERY BENEFICIAL.
AND I'VE SEEN THE GOOD THINGS THAT COME WITH THIS.
I MEAN, I'VE SAT ON THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE CORPORATION FOR A LONG TIME IN THE PAST, AND THERE'S SOME GREAT PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO MORE OF THOSE PROJECTS. SO I SEE THAT I CAN ALSO SEE THE SIDE WHERE YOU GIVE SOME OF THESE BOARDS AUTHORITY AND THEY TAKE IT TO THE EXTREME AND THEN WE ALMOST LOSE SOME CONTROL OF THAT.
WHAT YOU DO KNOW IS THAT YOU DO LOSE CONTROL OF IT WHEN THE ONLY WITH THE ONLY CONTROL YOU HAVE IS NOT REAPPOINTING PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE'S WE BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS HABIT OF APPOINTING PEOPLE FOR SIX YEAR TERMS AND HAVING ZERO CONTROL OVER THEM IN THE INTERIM.
ABSOLUTELY. NOW, THERE WAS ONE OF THE SLIDE IN THERE WHERE SEEMED TO SUGGEST THAT IDC WOULD BE ROLLED INTO RBA, NOT ONLY JUST THE TOOLS THAT THOSE ARE ALL ECONOMICAL, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
BUT, YEAH, THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M LIAISON TO.
OK, SO I THINK HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB OF WHAT TO DOING.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SLIDE WAS TO SHOW THAT THESE ARE YOU CAN DO IT LEGALLY BY STATE STATUTE. THESE ARE THE INDEPENDENT, THESE ARE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES OF THE
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CITY. YOU HAVE THE COORDINATOR HERE, THEN YOU HAVE PROPERTY FINANCE, HOUSING FINANCE, YOU HAVE THE RTA AND YOU HAVE THE ITC.THOSE ARE ALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS THAT THE CITY USES AND HOW EFFECTIVELY WE DO WE UTILIZE THEM. AND THAT'S SORT OF WHY WE'RE HERE DEALING WITH RDA IN PROPERTY FINANCE AND HOUSING FINANCE. AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE PAST IS THAT OUR RDA HOUSING FINANCE AND PROPERTY DORETTI WOULD HAVE THE SAME BOARD MAKE UP THEIR SEPARATE BOARDS. I MEAN, THESE ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES.
THEY JUST HAVE THE SAME BOARD MAKE UP.
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW. BUT WAIT A MINUTE.
YOU'RE SAYING PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE HOUSING FINANCE COUNCILMAN.
SO SO THIS IS THE THIRD ONE? PROBABLY. ALMOST INVARIABLY, YEAH.
PARTYA GALSON HOUSING PROPERTY AUTHORITY AND HOUSING, PROPERTY FINANCE, GOUSSIS AND GALVIS. IT'S NOT JUST A STORY THAT'S RIGHT UP AND DOWN.
SO TOO IS BOARDS HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE SAME BOARD MAKEUP.
WE WOULD JUST BE COMBINING THE RDA SOMEBODY.
WE HAVE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT, AND THEY HAVE ONE BOARD RIGHT NOW THAT IS SERVING AS THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND THE OTHER ONE AND THE RDA IS THE MS. TOGETHER. THE PROBLEM IS AND I'LL JUST BE VERY CANDID.
WE HAD AND WE HAD NOT THOUGHT IT OUT WELL AND WE DID NOT GIVE THEM CLEAR DIRECTION.
AND SO I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF IN CONSULTATION WITH STAFF.
I ASKED THE RTA AND THAT COMBINED BOARD TO STAND DOWN UNTIL COUNCIL WEIGHS IN ON WHAT THEIR WHAT THEIR ROLE IS, WHAT THEIR DUTIES ARE, AND HOW ARE THEY TO FUNCTION.
WE'LL BE DOING IN THE NET TODAY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
WHAT IS THE GALVESTON PROPERTY SYSTEM? NO, I KNOW WHAT THE I KNOW THE BOARD THAT JOHNSON SPEAKING.
WHAT'S THE THIRD ONE? THE GALVESTON PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY.
SO IT WAS CREATED AS A NONPROFIT AND ACTUALLY THE GALVESTON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION RECOMMENDED TO COUNCILMAN YEARS AGO.
AND SO THINGS LIKE THE FINANCIAL NETWORKS USED AND CHINA WAS CERTAINLY QUIROGA FOR A WHILE. AND THEY WERE THE GROUP THAT I WAS THE LEAD FOR THE.
SCHUSTER. AND THE DIFFERENCE OF THOSE TWO GIRLS, HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.
HAS RESTRICTIONS BY STATE STATUTE ON THE PROJECTS THAT THEY CAN DO.
THE OTHER ONE'S PROPERTY FINANCE AUTHORITY, THEY BASICALLY HAVE NO STATE RESTRICTIONS ON STATE LAWS THAT THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCIAL QUALIFICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT YOU WOULD USE, ONE OF THE OTHER ONE IS FOR LOW INCOME. THE OTHER IS FOR OTHER UNRESTRICTED POWERS IN HOUSING FINANCE COMPANIES THAT THE CORPORATION IS IN THE LOW INCOME ORIENTED.
YES. AND THE AUTHORITY HAS NO OPTION THERE.
AND ACTUALLY, IN WAY, WAY BACK WHEN IT WAS FIRST FORMED, IT WAS FORMED FOR THE PROGRAM, THE PROGRAM FOR PERMANENT PUBLIC.
THAT'S WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME AND JOHN, DON'T THEY HAVE AN AFFILIATION WITH THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS HOUSING AND THEY CAN ACCESS SOME KIND OF BOND FOR THEM SO THEY CAN.
YES, AND THAT ONE IS BOTH STATUTORY AND THE OTHER ONE IS BY BOARDMAN'S, THE PROPERTY FINANCES, MY FINANCES BY ORDINANCE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
WHEN YOU SAY, YEAH, OK, LET'S DO THIS COUNCIL.
IF YOU WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, MICHEL, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE IMPARTED ON THE SLIDES IS THAT IN THE OF MATERIAL THAT WE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING, OR IS THERE ADDITIONAL MATERIAL YOU'VE ADDED TO THAT? I DO NOT THINK THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL THAT I CAN ASK.
THAT'S HOW WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND ALL THE SLIDES TO COUNCILMAN? I WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO FIRST OF ALL, LOOK AT THAT ORGANIZATIONAL FLOW CHART THAT THAT MICHELLE MENTIONED.
THAT'S HOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS.
MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS HERE AT THE CITY, AND I LIKE TO GET COUNCILMAN INPUT ON THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON HOW THAT FUNCTIONS AND SO FORTH, AND LOOK AT THE RDA MISSION STATEMENT AS IT IS NOW, AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
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AND THEN ON THE DRAFT GOALS, WE'LL NEED THAT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT WE WILL BE DOING AS FAR AS DIRECTION TO THE RTA IF WE ELECT TO CONTINUE THOSE THOSE THOSE ENTITIES.NOW, MICHELLE, YOU'RE WE STILL HAVE SOME TECHNICAL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE SORTED OUT, DONE WITH THE RTA AND A NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON THAT AND ALL THAT.
SO WE NEED TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT ALSO. YOU'VE APPOINTED A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD FOR THE INFORMATION WAS APPROVED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE, WHICH PROVIDES FOR FIVE MEMBERS WHEN WE WENT TO RESUBMIT THEM, A COUNCIL MEMBER OBJECTING TO THEM GOING FORWARD AND UNTIL WE COULD FURTHER DEFINE THE MISSION. SO YOU HAVE A BOARD WITH BARNACLES ON FILE WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE PROVIDING FOR FIVE MEMBERS AND YOU'VE APPOINTED SEVEN.
JUST FOR SAFETY'S SAKE, YEAH, AND ALSO THE I THINK THE I DON'T KNOW THE INTENT, I BELIEVE THE INTENT WHEN YOU COMBINE THE THREE WAS TO HAVE ONE COMING FORWARD AND YOU ENDED UP WITH COMMON BOARD MEMBERS, BUT NOT ONE COMING FORWARD.
YOU HAVE BASICALLY RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE THE RDA AND THE COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND GROUP.
YOU HAVE ONE BOARD THAT YOU CARE FOR.
AND IT'S IT'S KIND OF IT'S IT'S SOMEWHAT DISJOINTED.
THIS IS THE TIME THAT WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THIS GROUP.
WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT THEIR PURPOSE IS IF WE WANT THEM TO FUNCTION AND HOW AND WHAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR THE CONTROL OF THAT GROUP AND ANY CRITERIA THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
AND THEN WE GIVE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN TO THE RDA AND WHATEVER WE DECIDE.
AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD THEN WITH THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.
SO WE NEED TO KIND OF GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT AND SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION CONCERNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHEN WE GET INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE THE TOPICS OF PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES PLAY A ROLE IN SOME TO COUNCIL MEMBER MINDS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE NEED TO SORT THAT OUT.
SO WHEN WE GIVE DIRECTION TO THIS ENTITY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY CLEAR ON THAT.
VERY GOOD, MICHELLE, ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? I DON'T THINK SO.
I HAVEN'T MADE UP THEIR MINDS ENOUGH, BUT YEAH, ANY AS YOU GUYS DISCUSS IT, WE WILL TAKE WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU SEE FROM HERE AND GO FORWARD.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE IN MIND IS, IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A SINGULAR BOARD? SHOULD THE TWO OR GROUPS BE COMBINED OR NOT COMBINED? I KNOW THAT WAS DONE UNDER DIFFERENT COUNSEL.
AND THEN ONCE YOU ALL DECIDE ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND MICHELLE CAN PROVIDE AS MUCH INPUT OR AS LITTLE INPUT AS YOU GUYS, ALL OF THAT, THAT WE CAN BRING FORWARD THE PLAN ON HOW TO CHARGE THE VARIOUS GROUPS AND HOW TO USE THEM.
WHAT TOOLS ARE BEST SUITED TO DO THAT? WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THOSE GROUPS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU? WE KNOW THERE'S A BIG TOOLBOX, BUT ARE THERE ARE THERE SOME LIMITS ON WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO DO MORE TOURS OR WOULD YOU RATHER USE ALL THREE DAYS? YOU KNOW, HOW HOW DO YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD THEN? I THINK WHEN WE PROVIDE THEM THAT DIRECTION, THAT GIVES THEM THE GUIDANCE TO WHEN THEY'RE NEGOTIATING WITH SOMEBODY SAYING, YEAH, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN TOURS, WE'RE NOT AS STUPID AS WE WANT TO DO A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY IS WILLING TO DO, BECAUSE WHAT YOU GUYS DECIDE, UH, NOT WHAT THEY DECIDE OR ANYTHING ELSE, AND LET'S GIVE THEM THAT GUIDANCE SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WITH THE LIMITATIONS ESTABLISHED BY COUNCILMAN, THE DIRECTION AND LIMITATIONS OF COUNCILMAN.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND WITH WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A GROUP THAT DEALS WITH LOW INCOME HOUSING AND COMBINING IT WITH A GROUP THAT DEALS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I DON'T CONSIDER A LOW INCOME HOUSING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING QUALITY OF LIFE IS CONSIDERED.
BUT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING IN MY MIND IS NOT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SOME OF OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING WOULD PROBABLY BE DEFINED AS AS LOW INCOME.
I MEAN, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF HOUSING.
SO WHERE IS THAT? YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT BEEN BROUGHT UP TO US BY VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THAT.
YEAH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE, OUR WORKFORCE IS LIVING ON THE MAINLAND AND EVERYBODY HAS TO DO WITH INSURANCE COSTS, PROPERTY TAXES.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SUBSIDIZE THAT IN ANY WAY THAT'S SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.
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YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS HOW WE CAN INVEST IN SOMETHING OFF THE ISLAND WHERE THE COSTS AREN'T AS MUCH AND DO WORKFORCE OUTSIDE.BUT LIKE A LOT OF AREAS DO, SUCH AS FLORIDA OR EVEN RESORT AREAS AND OTHER STATES, THEY LOOK AT HOW THEY CAN PROVIDE WORKFORCE HOUSING WITHIN A CLOSE DISTANCE.
AND THEN I'LL ALSO SAY, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE FALLEN TO THE LOW LOWER INCOME STATUS THAT ALSO OWN HOUSES THAT AREN'T BEING SUBSIDIZED.
SO I JUST I JUST THINK WE WE WALK.
IT'S IT'S FINE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE DO.
AND THERE IS PROPERTY FOR THOSE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THAT HAVE SERVED HERE IN THE PAST COUNCILS. AT ONE POINT WE STARTED TO ADDRESS THE PROPERTY OUT BY THE AIRPORT OUT THERE.
SO WE'VE GOT SIX THAT IS NOW OWNED BY THE CITY.
RIGHT. THE OTHER 20, WHETHER IT'S RIGHT FOR DEVELOPMENT OR NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AVAILABLE AT LEAST. AND THOSE ARE THOSE ARE TYPES OF DECISIONS THAT IF WE HAVE AN RDA WITH OUR GUIDANCE, COULD POSSIBLY EVALUATE BREYTENBACH RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS COUNCIL.
SO WE NEED TO WE NEED TO REALLY THINK THAT OUT AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH IT.
WE'LL HAVE IT AS A WORKSHOP ITEM ON OUR TWENTY SECOND AGENDA AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD FROM THAT. VERY GOOD.
ON THE TWENTY SECOND, ARE THERE SPECIFIC ITEMS YOU WANT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD? JUST INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER OR DISCUSS.
IS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD, OF COURSE, ABOUT THE BOARD MAKE UP WORDS OR TWO DIFFERENT CHAIRMEN'S BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DIRECTION GIVEN TO THEM IN THE CONSOLIDATED ENTITY THAT SAID THERE WOULD BE ONE CHAIR ON BOARD.
SO THEY TOOK IT UPON YOU TWO VERY STRONG PERSONALITIES TO DO.
BUT I THINK THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE SAME FOR THE CHAIR.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE RGA IS DESIGNATED BY CITY COUNCIL.
THE OTHER TWO THAT WHEN THEY WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER AS A SINGLE FAMILY, IT WAS LIKE THE ADDAMS FAMILY.
IT WAS SUDDEN, ABRUPT AND SHOCKING TO MANY, AND THEY REALLY DID NOT KNOW.
SO I THINK THEY GRAVITATED TO A PERSON THEY DIDN'T KNOW WAS PATRICIA BOGALAY, WHO HAD A HISTORY. THE HOUSE LIKES THE IDEA OF THE CHAIR WAS APPOINTED, UH, AS SOMEBODY ELSE, AND WE HAVE SOME VERY TALENTED PEOPLE, IN MY OPINION, ON THE RDA RIGHT NOW, THE COMBINED BOARDS. AND WE'RE NOT USING THEIR THEIR THEIR EXPERTIZE AT THIS POINT.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY THE RDA CHAIRS.
JOHN MANLOVE, WHO HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE BEING THE MAYOR OF PASADENA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ALONG THESE LINES.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE LIKE A RACEHORSE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
THEY'RE WAITING FOR OUR GUIDANCE AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
AND CAN I GET SOME INFORMATION ON THAT? THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT WHO'S ON THE BOARD.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ON THAT. OR, UM, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK.
WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF.
YES. OK, ONE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY WAS THAT BROADWAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE SOME FOCUS ON THAT.
WE'VE DONE SOME GREAT PROJECTS DOWNTOWN AND TRAIN AND REDEVELOPMENT TRAINING AND NEIGHBORHOOD GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, BROADWAY IS THE MAIN CORRIDOR.
IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWNTOWN, YOU GOT TO GO DOWN BROADWAY OR BARBARESI OR C WALL.
AND SO THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS SOME WORK.
I WOULD EVEN GO AS FAR AS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE POLICIES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLY HOURS. AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE POLICIES HAVE MADE BROADWAY LOOK WORSE BY SOME OF THE BUILDING GUIDELINES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE.
YOU JACK IN THE BOX, DOMINOES, I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ANIMALS OUT THERE THAT WERE NEW OR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND AND THEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY.
YEAH, WHAT CAN WE DO ON BROADWAY? YEAH. CAN WE. YEAH.
AND I CAN GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES TOO OF SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES AND HOW THEY USED AND IF WE HAD THIS CHANCE MENTIONING WE HAD A COMEDIAN HIRE A CONSULTANT, IT WENT THROUGH A SERIES OF MEETINGS I GUESS FOR NOT MUCH LONGER THAN THAT AND SAY HERE THERE WERE
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SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE NEVER FINALIZED THAT.AND WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS, IS THAT PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF WERE GOING TO TAKE OVER AND FINISH THAT STUDY AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL AND, OF COURSE, PANDEMIC AND ALL OF THAT THAT GOT SET ASIDE.
SO WE NEED TO RESURRECT THAT ISSUE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE EVEN EARMARKED SOME FUNDS AND I'VE SEEN FOR SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT JUST KEEPS GOING.
IT'S JUST GETS CARRIED OVER TIME.
SO THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME THINGS ALMOST THERE.
SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND DUSTED OFF AND.
WELL, THIS IS JUST ONE OTHER COMMENT I SAW THERE THAT YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING RESEARCH FOR AN RFP OR WHATEVER FOR INDOOR SPORTS ACTIVITIES, OUR BOARD DID A VERY GOOD ANALYSIS AND BROUGHT IN SOME EXPERTS ON THIS.
THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT.
YOU MIGHT CHECK WITH THE BOARD ON THAT.
THAT WAS TWO OR THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.
THEY'VE BEEN A WHILE. BUT THAT THAT CAN HAVE GREAT BENEFIT.
YEAH, THAT WAS PART OF THE TWENTY EIGHTEEN RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THE PARK BOARD DID OK.
BUT CARDBOARDS GOT GOT SOME DETAILS ON THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MICHELLE VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER INFORMATION I HAVE FINDERS OF.
STUFF THAT I DIDN'T RESEARCH ANYTHING, SO I HAVE A QUESTION, I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD BINDERS OF STUFF, I HAVE TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO HANDS ON PERSON TO SEE IT.
AND I CAN'T JUST SIT ON THE COMPUTER.
SO UNFORTUNATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. NOW, ITEM FORESE IS YOUR CARD, PLEASE.
[4C. Discussion Of The Status Of The Pelican Island Bridge - Brown/Staff ( 20 Min )]
OK. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOT AT THE COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL.WE CAN SPEND AS MUCH TIME OR AS LITTLE ON THIS SUBJECT AS YOU WOULD LIKE.
I WANT TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON THE STATUS OF THE PELICAN ISLAND BRIDGE.
IT IS NOT AT A POINT FOR COUNCILMAN TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON THIS.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AND TALKS AND MEETINGS GOING ON CONCERNING THIS, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO BRING COUNCIL UP TO SPEED ON WHERE WE ARE FOR THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAY NOT KNOW THIS WHOLE SUBJECT OF THE CITY.
GETTING INVOLVED WITH PELICAN RIDGE FOR A NEW BRIDGE WAS BROUGHT TO US BY COMMISSIONER RYAN, DETERRED FROM WHEN HE SERVED WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
AND THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAN OF BUILDING A NEW PELICAN BRIDGE.
AND THEY WANTED THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE.
BUT THE COUNTY WOULD START FUNDING A LOT OF THE PRELIMINARY WORK TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
THIS COUNCIL AT THE TIME WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED THAT SHORTLY AFTER THAT, COMMISSIONER DINAW DECIDED NOT TO RERUN HIS POSITION AND WHO TOOK UP THE CHARGE AND HAS DONE IT AT AN UNBELIEVABLY GREAT JOB ON THIS IS COMMISSIONER KEN CLARKE.
AND KEN TOOK THIS SUBJECT UP AND STARTED MOVING IT FORWARD AND PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ATTENTION TO IT. THE BRIDGE HAS ABOUT, ACCORDING TO TEXAS, NOT ABOUT A FIVE TO SEVEN YEAR EXPECTANCY ON IT.
STUTSMAN NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO GET A PLAN TOGETHER FOR A BETTER ECONOMIC BRIDGE TO START.
KIND OF TOOK THE LEAD ON THAT AND STARTED MOVING FORWARD WITH PLANS AND PROJECTIONS AND SO FORTH. SO FAR, TEXAS DOT HAS BEEN CLOSE TO 14 MILLION DOLLARS DOING PRELIMINARY WORK ON THE BRIDGE OF COMING UP WITH IDEAS AND SO FORTH.
AND THE PARTICULAR SITE PLAN FOR THE BRIDGE THAT WE ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH, THE SWINGS OUT WEST AROUND ANIMES CAMPUS.
I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAILS OF WHY WE'RE SWINGING OUT THAT WAY, BUT I THINK IS SOMETHING THE TEXT NOW HAS PRETTY WELL FINALIZED.
AND THEIR MAN ON THE SIDE OF THAT BRIDGE, IS THIS CLEAR? YOU KNOW, NO RAIL, NO RAILS OR THEY TECH STOCKS THAT HAVE PROJECTED NOW WITH THEIR ENGINEERS IN THEIR PRELIMINARY DESIGN WORK THAT THE BRIDGE WILL BE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS.
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UH, TAX DOT ALSO IS SAID THAT SUPPOSEDLY THEY HAVE PUT IN THAT HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION. THEY HAVE PADDED THAT TO ACCOUNT FOR COST COST ESCALATION OVER THE YEARS AND THEY FEEL IT'S ONE HUNDRED FIFTEEN MILLION NOW WITH THE PANDEMIC AND SO FORTH.I THINK THAT'S VERY QUESTIONABLE WITH THE PRICE OF MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WORKING OFF OF.
TECH START WORK MANY MAN HOURS TO BRING ALL THE PARTICIPANTS OF FUNDING TOGETHER FOR THE BRIDGE AND THE PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE NOW FUNDING THE BRIDGE AND COMING TOGETHER FOR FUNDING FOR THE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION ARTEX DOT FOR FORTY FIVE MILLION, HGC FOR TWENTY THREE MILLION.
CITY FOR FIVE MILLION, AS YOU KNOW, THROUGH ISD.
PORTI HOUSTON FOR TWO NAVIGATION DISTRICT FOR TEN MILLION IN PORT OF GALVESTON FOR ONE TO TWO MILLION. WE HAVE THE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION HAS BEEN INFORMALLY AGREED UPON BY ALL THESE ENTITIES THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
WHEN IT COMES TO ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION.
ONCE WE GOT TO THAT POINT, TEX DOT FELT THAT THE NEXT MOVING FORWARD AND THEY WANTED TO GET AN ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT SIGNED SO THAT THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD NOW.
WITH MORE ENGINEERING WORK AND SO FORTH, THE CONCERNS THAT POPPED UP IN MY MIND AND MANY OTHERS WITH THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, THE PERSON OR THE ENTITY THAT SIGNS THAT WILL BE THE OWNER OF THE BRIDGE AND THE PERSON THE ENTITY THAT SIGNS THAT WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR COST OVERRUNS OF THIS BRIDGE.
THAT BECAME IN DISCUSSIONS AS I WAS ELECTED AS MAYOR, I SET A PERSONAL GOAL OF MOVING THIS ALONG AND WORKING WITH KEN CLARKE AND TECH START TO TRY TO BRING THIS TO FRUITION HERE. AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE IDEA OF THE COST OVERRUNS ON HOW THOSE WOULD BE HANDLED. UH, WE HAVEN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION ON THAT TAX.
DOD HAS THROWN OUT THE IDEA THAT EVERY ENTITY WOULD PUT IN AN EXTRA 10 PERCENT OF WHAT THEY HAD INITIALLY ALLOCATED TO THE BRIDGE TO COVER ANY COST OVERRUNS.
PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT ELEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION UP 10 PERCENT IS GOING TO BE STILL WAY TOO LOW IN MY MIND.
AND THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS THROWN OUT BY TECH START BUT NOT AGREED UPON BY THE PORT HOUSTON PORT OF GALVESTON OR ANY OTHER THESE ENTITIES NOR THE CITY OF OF OF GALVESTON.
THAT WOULD BE AN EXTRA FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IF WE MOVE IT UP.
I PERSONALLY RELATE TO TEXAS DOT THAT WE WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS COST OVERRUN WOULD BE MANAGED AND WHO WOULD OWN THIS BRIDGE.
UM, THE COUNTY WHERE WE ARE NOW, THE COUNTY AND KEN CLARKE HAS BEEN LEADING THIS CHARGE, HAS AGREED TO SIGNED AN INITIAL ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT DOCUMENT.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TO GO TO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.
THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS NOT WEIGHED IN ON THIS.
AND IN THIS DOCUMENT, THEY WOULD TEMPORARILY BE IN THE SIGNI OF THIS ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT.
THEIR OBLIGATION WOULD BE TO BRING ALL THE ENTITIES TOGETHER AND WORK AND IMO, YOU WITH ALL THE ENTITIES TO GET THEIR FUNDING TOGETHER AND SO FORTH.
AND ONCE THEY GOT THAT GOING TO START WITH, THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BRIDGE AND THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FINAL OWNER OF THE BRIDGE, THE COST OVERRUN ISSUE IS STILL THERE, THOUGH, HANGING OUT THERE.
AND I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT'S QUITE AN QUITE AN ISSUE.
THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, THOUGH, HAVE OCCURRED THAT HAS GIVEN AS KIND OF A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL. THE BRIDGE WAS DESIGNED TO BE SEVENTY THREE FOOT TALL THROUGH A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS AND ENTITIES.
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AND I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH WITH COLONEL FOSSUM THERE OUT A NAME ON THIS WHO IS, BY THE WAY, AN ENGINEER. ALSO, WE HAVE TOUCHED BASE WITH THE COAST GUARD AND THE COAST GUARD IS SAYING THEY FEEL THE BRIDGE PROBABLY ONLY HAS TO BE FORTY FIVE FEET TALL.NOW, IF WE REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF IT TO 40 FOOT TALL, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST SAVINGS THERE. A LOT OF THE ENTITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS ARE THINKING THAT COST SAVINGS MAY BE ENOUGH TO COVER COST OVERRUNS SINCE THEY'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN MILLION IN DEPENDING ON THE REDUCTION OF THE HEIGHT OF THE BRIDGE.
THERE MAY BE MONIES JUST FROM OUR INITIAL ALLOCATIONS TO COVER COST OVERRUNS ON THIS BRIDGE. THAT'S THE HEIGHT.
PROHIBIT ANY KIND OF SHIPS FROM COMING IN.
THEY WERE 45 FOOT LONG KNIVES.
SO WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH THE COAST GUARD TODAY AND WE HAVE GOTTEN THE DETAILS FROM TWENTY NINETEEN, TWENTY TWENTY.
THE TWENTY NINETEEN OF ALL THE SHIPS THAT HAVE PASSED IN THAT BRIDGE, THERE WERE TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED PASSENGERS THROUGH THAT BRIDGE IN TWENTY NINETEEN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHIPS. SHIPS.
ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING OVER THAT BRIDGE.
FOUR. THERE WERE TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED OF THEM BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE SHIP GO THROUGH THERE AND I WAS OUT THERE.
WELL HERE THERE WERE TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED PASSENGERS THROUGH THAT BRIDGE AND THERE WERE OF THE TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED, APPROXIMATELY EIGHTY SEVEN OF THOSE PASSENGERS WOULD NEED A HIGH, MORE THAN FORTY FIVE FEET.
BUT THE MAJORITY I THINK ALMOST ALL OF THOSE EIGHTY SEVEN WERE SAILBOATS.
SO THE CORE OF THE COAST GUARD FEELS THAT IF WE ELECTED TO REDUCE THE FIVE TO FORTY FIVE FEET THEN.
THEY WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE TO RUN SOME STUDIES ON THIS, BUT THEY HAVE INFORMALLY MENTIONED THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE ALL RIGHT IN THE FEW SHIPS THAT NEEDED THAT EXTRA HIGH, COULD GO AROUND, WOULD NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO BE SURE.
YES. SO THOSE GOING THROUGH THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
SAILBOATS HAVE GONE THROUGH THERE, BUT THAT ONLY SHIPS THAT NEEDED FROM THE FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE SAW THE SHIP GOING THROUGH, THERE WAS A A MAINTENANCE VESSEL WAS ORION MARINE OFFSHORE ROBB AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CLEARED WITH THE FORTY FIVE.
IS THAT CORRECT. AND WHEN THAT WAS SPOTTED BY I DON'T KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE ANTENNAS AND THE LIGHTS THAT ARE UP ON THE TOP OF IT.
YEAH. SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT.
BUT THE COAST GUARD IS IS LOOKING AT THAT ALSO FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION.
ON THE FORTY FIVE FOOT HIGH, WE WOULD HAVE TO FILE A SPECIFIC APPLICATION WITH THE COAST GUARD TO DO THE RESEARCH TEXT.
WHAT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT AND THEY WOULD FILE THAT IF WE ELECT TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION ON THAT.
I HAD REQUESTED I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE TEXT START ENGINEERS EXACTLY WHAT THE COST SAVINGS IS ON THIS BRIDGE.
AND WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT EXACT FIGURE YET.
THEY'RE RUNNING THE NUMBERS ON THAT AND SAID THEY WOULD GET BACK WITH THIS SHORTLY TO DETERMINE GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT COST SAVINGS WOULD BE.
HAVE WE TALKED TO THAT COMPANY, SOME ENTITIES THAT ARE ALONG THE BOARD TO ASK THEM WHAT THEY'RE LIKE? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S ALL THE WAY.
AND I GUESS THAT'S BEING NOW THEY WOULD WANT TO GET PAST THERE ARE WITH THEM.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE IS A THERE WOULD BE A MARINE STUDY WITH ALL THE MARINE PARTICIPANTS IN THE HARBOR THAT EFFECTIVELY UTILIZED A SHIP OR ADJACENT TO IT TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR UTILIZATION WOULD BE.
AND THAT'S WHAT SO IT'S JUST IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A DRAWBRIDGE JUST TO IF THIS IS A STABLE OPERATING OR COASTAL BRIDGE.
WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL LIKE? SEVENTY SEVENTY THREE.
PHASE THREE, WHICH IS WHAT SURFSIDE DOES WITH THOSE BRIDGES OUT TODAY, I BELIEVE.
I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE COUNCIL.
SO IF YOU HEARD RUMORS OF WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, EXACT INFORMATION ON THAT TEXT SAID
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THEY WOULD BE BACK WITH THIS.THEY DIDN'T GIVE A DATE YET, BUT THEY'RE RUNNING THE NUMBERS ON THE COST SAVINGS.
THEN IF THE DECISION IS MADE TEXT, WHAT IS THE MAJOR FUNDER HERE? IT'S DECISIONS MADE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.
THEY WOULD FILE AN APPLICATION WITH THE COAST GUARD TODAY, THE MARITIME STUDY IN A LOT OF THESE OTHERS THAT WOULD HAPPEN YESTERDAY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO TIMELINES HERE.
ONE IS HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET FROM HERE TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THE BRIDGE.
THE SECOND IS NOT LONG BEFORE THE GO BRIDGE.
WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ESTIMATE ON WHAT THAT FIRST THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS TO BUILD IT OR THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS TO FINISH THE PROJECT THAT WE SO SURE TO START TAKING PROBABLY DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DEMOLITION RUN BECAUSE, WELL, DEMOLITION, THEY'RE GOING TO START BUILDING THAT BRIDGE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THE OTHER BRIDGE TO.
RIGHT. YEAH, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
WORRY ABOUT THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES.
BUT DO WE HAVE ANY CLUE HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET FROM HERE TO TURN SOIL? I ASKED THAT AT OUR LAST MEETING.
I WAS TOLD SOMEWHERE AROUND EIGHTEEN MONTHS IF EVERYTHING MOVED FORWARD AS WE, WE HAD THE CORPS ON THE CALL, WE HAD THE COAST GUARD ON THE CALL, I WAS TOLD ABOUT EIGHTEEN MONTHS.
SO WE'RE TALKING FOUR AND A HALF TO FIVE YEARS FROM RIGHT NOW TO GET A BRIDGE.
IF EVERYTHING, IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT.
NO, I THINK IT COULD BE LESS TIME THAN THAT.
WHAT I TOLD THREE YEARS MAX THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT.
EIGHTEEN MONTHS. OH I WORK WITH.
A FINAL DECISION TO BUILD THE BRIDGE.
ARE WE 18 MONTHS AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THE CORE OF THE STUDY? WELL, IF YOUR QUESTION IS WHEN DO WE PULL THE TRIGGER ON MOVING FORWARD, WE STILL HAVEN'T DETERMINED THAT YET.
IF MS. COST OVERRUNS SITUATION IN MY MIND AND MANY OF THE ENTITIES ARE STILL A MAJOR.
IT IS. I MEAN I MEAN, IF WE IF WE GOT TAGGED DOWN THE LINE THE NEXT FOUR, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO FINISH THE BRIDGE, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY ABSORB THAT ANOTHER FIVE BILLION DOLLARS. WE BETTER HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW.
WELL, WE'RE TALKING THIS BRIDGE AND I'M I'M OUT OF MY ELEMENT, BUT I'M THINKING COST OVERRUNS CAN BE 20 BILLION ON THIS.
WELL, AND MY ATTENTION TO START PROJECTS WITH THE MATERIALS.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO GET THE POINT WHERE WE PULL THE TRIGGER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND FROM THERE, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE EXISTING BRIDGE NOW IN 07? YEAH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET A GOOD STORM TO WIPE IT OUT.
THERE'S TWO THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO GET, STORM.
WE COULD SERIOUSLY DELAY ANY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY.
THAT'S TRUE. BUT BUT I'M CONFIDENT.
BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE TIME LINE STRETCHING OUT HERE TOWARD THE GETTING GETTING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO THE END OF THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE BRIDGE, THE EXISTING BRIDGE.
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION IS, I THOUGHT THE NAVIGATION FUNDS WEREN'T FOR THE DEMOLITION THAT SPREAD OUT OVER THERE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS A TOTAL COST, JOHNSON, 15 MILLION.
AND WE HAVE HAD I ANALYZED REPRESENTING TEXTFIELD HAS MET WITH THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT THERE, 10 MILLION THEY HAVE HAD.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT COLLECTED YET.
THEY ONLY HAVE ABOUT HALF OF THAT COLLECTED.
BUT THEY'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT THEIR 10 MILLION FOR THE DEMOLITION SO THAT WHATEVER HAPPENED ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE EARLY ON, LIKE SWOPPING STREET WITH STUFF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY WERE BROADWAY WITH THE BRIDGE OR SWOPPING THE COUNTY, SWAMPING THE SEAWALL, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT WITH THAT HAS BEEN THROWN OUT TO.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT AND PUTTING ON A PARKWAY BECAUSE WITHOUT HIM AND A&M AS PART OF OUR BILL IS A&M WILL PAY US FOR THE APPRAISED VALUE IF WE ABANDON BALCON PARKWAY THROUGH THERE.
AND THAT MONEY WOULD GO TOWARD THE BRIDGE.
BUT THAT THAT'S IN THERE RIGHT MIND.
I THINK WHAT MURRAY'S REFERRING TO THE DISCUSSION NEXT THAT WE'LL TAKE WE'LL TAKE A FERRY ROAD. TAKE THAT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT HAS BEEN THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED TO TAX, DON.
AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD LOOK AT THAT.
IT WAS MY OPINION THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT, BUT THEY DID NOT SAY THAT.
SO WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT.
SO THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEPT IT FROM BECOMING A RAILROAD BRIDGE WAS THE FACT THAT IT WAS SO HIGH.
BUT NOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE FORTY FIVE FEET, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT A STOP TO IT?
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THAT WOULD JUST BE FLAT, WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING TO BE A BASKET OF SOME SORT.AND THE COLORED ESTIMATES ON THAT HAVE BEEN JUST TO ADD RAIL TO THAT REALLY, REALLY BRINGS THE PRICE UP EVEN HIGHER.
WHAT ABOUT A SEPARATE RAIL SYSTEM? TWO SEPARATE JOBS HAVE TO BE SEPARATE.
I CHECK BECAUSE THAT'S TWO HUNDRED MILLION YEARS AGO THAT WE'RE IN.
BUT IT IS. BUT THAT'S A TREMENDOUS WAY BEYOND WHAT IT TAKES TO BUILD A.
SO I JUST WANT TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED, I WILL BRING ONE IF WE HAVE ANY DEMONSTRABLE CHANGES ON THIS, I'LL BRING IT TO COUNCILMAN LET YOU KNOW, SO THAT YOU HAVE UPDATED INFORMATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCILMAN? ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE.
EXCUSE ME. WE'LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND THEN THE NEXT THING I KNOW WELL.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, HAVE I MOVE? WE GET A BLANKET FOR MARINES.
APPARENTLY, IT ALWAYS HAD BLANKETS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
WHAT'S THREE MEN? I MEAN, I'M ALREADY PASSED TO BE PASSED ALONG TO US.
THANK GOD. BY THE WAY, WE'VE GOT LUNCH PROVIDED FOR YOU IN THERE, IF ANYONE NEEDS THAT COMING UP HERE SHORTLY.
THIS NEW ITEM FOR THE AVERAGE MAN AND A 40 YEAR MASTER PLAN BY CARRIE.
[4D. Discussion Of The Airport Master Plan – Robb/Brown/Staff (15 Min)]
YOU WON'T FIND THE NEXT TIME WE'RE UPDATING OUR MASTER PLAN.THAT'S ONE TO 20 YEAR DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE AIRPORT AND ALSO DIGNIFIES PROJECTS AND SO FORTH. AND USUALLY THAT FIRST FIVE YEAR PROJECTS ARE PUT IN THE FUNDING COOGAN.
SO THERE ARE SOME ITEMS IN THE DRAFT PLAN RIGHT NOW THAT NEED TO BE AWARE OF FIRST, THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING A MASTER PLAN THAT REQUIRES THEM TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN AIRCRAFT, THE CRITICAL AIRCRAFT THAT CURRENTLY USE THE AIRPORT, THAT'S AN AIRCRAFT OR AIRCRAFT TYPE THAT LAND AT THE AIRPORT OR USE THE AIRPORT AT LEAST 500 TIMES A YEAR BASED ON OUR CURRENT CRITICAL AIRCRAFT THAT THEY DESIGN OR THEY THEY LIST THE PROJECTS BASED ON THAT DESIGN, ONE OF THOSE TAXIWAYS RIGHT NOW, OR TAXIWAYS OR ANYWHERE FROM 50 FOOT, 100 FOOT WIDE WITH OUR CURRENT CRITICAL AIRCRAFT DESIGN AIRCRAFT, IT SHOULD BE 35.
SO THE PROJECT IS LISTING TO REDUCE ALL OF OUR TAXIWAYS TO THIRTY FIVE TO REMOVE ALL THE EXCESS PAVEMENT. SAME WITH RUNWAYS.
INSTEAD OF 150 FEET THAT WE HAVE NOW, ONE COULD BE REDUCED TO 100 FOOT.
THAT CAUSES A MAJOR ISSUE, ESPECIALLY WE HAVE HURRICANES, ICE STORMS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
AS YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT THAT THEY BRING IN C17, WHICH VERY LARGE AIRCRAFT FOR MEDICAL FLIGHTS, FOR SUPPLIES AND SO FORTH, SOMETIMES 737 TO BRING IN MEDICAL PATIENTS FROM OVERSEAS OR WHATEVER.
THE C-130 IS ALSO BRINGING SUPPLIES IN THE QUIROGA PEOPLE DURING HURRICANE HARVEY AND SO FORTH. FEMA, TEXAS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MILITARY, RIGHT AFTER HARVEY DID A PRETTY EXTENSIVE STUDY USING THE AIRPORT AS A BASE OF OPERATION FOR MAJOR EVACUATIONS.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN HOUSTON OR GALVESTON OR.
SO IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO REDUCE THE TAX RATES DOWN TO THIRTY FIVE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO GO TO ILLINGTON.
SO INSTEAD OF GALVESTON BEING KIND OF THE HEAD OF THE RECEIVING THE SUPPLIES AND EMERGENCY EVACUATIONS AND SO FORTH WILL BE AT THE TAIL OF IT BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM ALL THE WAY FROM ARLINGTON. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE DRAFT A LETTER FOR FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE MAYOR SIGNS IT REQUESTING TEXT ON MAINTAIN THE EXISTING PAVEMENT WINDS BECAUSE.
WELL, LET ME BACK UP. THE PLAN IS THE AIRPORTS THAT THE CITY'S AIRPORT AND THE PLAN IS THE CITY'S PLAN. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT THE CURRENT FAA GUIDELINES ARE THERE SOME SOME ISSUES THERE, YOU KNOW, COULD INCREASE OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS, BUT IT'S IT'S OUR PLAN.
SO IF THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE EXISTING LAYOUT OF THE PAVEMENT THE WAY IT IS, THEN I RECOMMEND WE SEND A LETTER TO TECH, START LISTING THE REASONS WHY IT NEEDS TO STAY MAINLY FOR SAFETY REASONS AND IN THE EMERGENCY PROCEDURES AND SO FORTH, AND AND ALSO
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REQUEST THAT THEY CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE FULL WIDTH OF THE PAVEMENT, NOT JUST THE THIRTY FIVE FOOT THAT'S CURRENTLY IDENTIFIED, BUT THERE'S A THIRD PIECE OF THAT RIGHT THERE WANTING TO MAKE IT.THIRTY FIVE FEET, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET THE LIGHT SET THE LIGHT WITH AND.
RIGHT. THAT WAS ON THE RUNWAY.
RIGHT NOW THEY BACKED OFF FROM THAT AND WE WERE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO JUSTIFY WHY THEY NEED TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN EXISTING PAVEMENT.
BUT A LETTER FROM CITY COUNCIL, OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS LIKE COUNTY, THE GALVESTON COUNTY AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS SENDING A LETTER ASKING FOR THIS TYPE OF JUSTIFICATION FOR THE AIRPORT, I THINK WILL GO A LONG WAY GETTING TEXT OUT TO SUPPORT.
BUT WE WANT TO DO WITH OUR AIRPORT WITH THAT FLIGHT THINKS WE SHOULD DEWITT.
VERY GOOD AND ANY CHANCE WE HAVE TO GET COMMERCIAL SERVICE WOULD BE FORWARDED BY PRODUCING AROUND THE TAXIWAYS.
LET'S NOT REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE NETWORK, WHICH IS ALSO THE SECOND THING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL SERVICE.
BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT OR.
WHO MAINTAINS THOSE RUNWAYS? WERE YOU U.S.
TAXPAYER? WELL, WE'RE A BLOCK GRANT STATE TAXES, SO THEY HAVE SINCE THAT TO TEXAS AVIATION ALL THE MONEY AND THEN THEY DIVVIED UP BETWEEN THE VARIOUS AIRPORTS.
ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S NO REAL INCREASED COST TO MAINTAIN IT THE WAY IT IS TODAY.
IT COULD BE IF THEY JUST CHOOSE TO MAINTAIN THE THIRTY FIVE FEET.
THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE FULL WITH RIGHT NOW.
THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO OUR BEST TO JUSTIFY WHY THEY SHOULD DO THE FLOOR WITH THEM. FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE RUNWAY THAT'S COMING UP FOR REHAB, ONE EIGHT THREE SIX IN JANUARY OR NEXT, NOT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.
THEY WANTED TO REDUCE IT TO SEVENTY FIVE FEET, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE THE LIGHTS IN, WHICH PUT US OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH FAA.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO JUSTIFY, YOU KNOW, IT COST MORE WITH LIGHTING THAN IT DOES MAINTAIN THE FULL WITH THAT RUNWAY.
BUT IT'S BEEN A PUSH FOR YEARS AND WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL AT KEEPING THE STATUS QUO. BUT NOW WITH NEW MASTER PLAN, IT'S WHAT DO WE DO? WE HAVE ANY HOPE OF OF SEEING THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AT THE AIRPORT THAT WOULD JUSTIFY THIS LONG TERM? YES, I THINK SO.
AND WE GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL SERVICE A LITTLE BIT.
THE RULE OF THUMB HAS ALWAYS BEEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE TWO COMMERCIAL SERVICE AIRPORTS WITHIN 60 MILES OF EACH OTHER WITH THE TYPE OF POPULATION DENSITY THAT YOU SEE BETWEEN GALVESTON AND HOUSTON, THE POPULATION DENSITY WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE.
BUT BUT GALVESTON, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT.
WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE CALLS A WEEK.
PEOPLE LOOKING TO FLY INTO GALVESTON WANT TO KNOW WHAT AIRLINE FLIGHTS INTO GALVESTON, A LOT OF ITS CRUISE BUSINESS, SOME OF THE BUSINESS RELATED PARAMA AIRLINES, THEY SAY THEY'RE THE LARGEST COMMUTER AIRLINE IN MEXICO, CONTACTED US BACK IN, I THINK IT WAS APRIL. THEY FLY RIGHT NOW FLIGHTS FROM MEXICO CITY INTO BROWNSVILLE AND LAREDO.
AND THEY WERE LOOKING TO GET INTO THE HOUSTON MARKET.
SO THEY KNEW WE HAD CUSTOMERS.
SO THEY CONTACTED US TO SEE IF WE COULD HAVE COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS.
WELL, OUR CUSTOMS, THAT'S ONE THING.
AND ONLY IT'S NOW THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO CLEAR MEDICAL FLIGHTS RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIFTED.
THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WE CAN GET AROUND QUICKLY.
WE ALSO DON'T BE PART ONE THIRTY NINE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS AN FAA REQUIREMENT FOR COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS, AND THAT'S MAINLY FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
UM. I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU JUST CAN'T OVERCOME AND GET CERTIFIED THAT QUICKLY, SO AAMA KIND OF MOVED AWAY.
I'M STILL LOOKING AT, I SUPPOSE, RECEIVED A FEW WEEKS LATER A PHONE CALL FROM THE COUNTY.
HE WORKS WITH POTOMAC PARTNERS, D.C.
HE SAID THAT I HAD REFERRED HIM OVER TO.
HE SAID HE HAD SOME CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN THE CRUISE LINE INDUSTRY AND THAT HIS CUSTOMERS WANT COMMERCIAL SERVICE INTO GALVESTON FOR THEIR PASSENGERS.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT MEETING THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS FOR AIRPORT TERMINAL VOLUME, AND WE KIND OF MOVED THE DISCUSSION OVER OUR TIN CUP LEASES, PROPERTY FROM THE AIRPORT OFFICE TO AROUND ABOUT TWENTY SIX ACRES.
THAT WOULD MAKE A GOOD LOCATION.
AND IT'S ON YOUR MAP KIND OF TOWARDS THE END FOR COMMERCIAL SERVICE, TERMINAL PARKING LOT AND GREAT ACCESS TO A ROAD BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE IS THE EXISTING TERMINAL.
HE FELT HIS CUSTOMERS COULD HELP US GET DISCRETIONARY FUNDING FOR A FOR DEVELOPING THAT
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PART OF THE AIRPORT.SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MEET THE ONE PART 139 REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT THE ACTUAL DEMAND IS FOR AIRLINE SERVICE HERE.
AND THEN BASED ON THAT, WE COULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO PROCEED FROM THERE. I THINK YOU KNOW THAT THE WAY THAT CAME ABOUT, MIKE AND I HADN'T SHARED WITH YOU ABOUT TWO, THREE MONTHS AGO THE THE HEAD OF THE CRUISE LINES ARE IN TOWN.
WE HAD A MEETING OVER AT THE PORT AND I BROUGHT UP TO THEM, YOU KNOW, I THINK AN AREA THAT YOU MAY BE MISSING IS COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS COMING IN TO GALVESTON FOR THE CRUISE SHIPS.
AND THEY LOVE THE IDEA THAT HE SAID, OH, MY GOD, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND THEY SAID, I'M GOING TO HAVE OUR WASHINGTON CONTACT CONTACT YOU, WHICH HE DID.
AND THEN I REFERRED HIM OVER TO YOU.
SO THANK YOU FOR FOR FOLLOWING UP ON.
THIS IS WHAT THE MEDIA SEEMS TO BE, ONE OF THOSE PLACES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO AND YOU CAN'T WAIT TILL SOMEBODY SAYS WE LIKE TO COME OUT AND THEN YOU START THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING.
TO THAT POINT, YOU HAVE TO MEET THOSE IMPORTANT 139 REQUIREMENTS FOR CUSTOMS AND THAT YOU GET TO GO THROUGH THOSE HOOPS AND THEN YOU MAKE YOURSELF ATTRACTIVE TO.
WELL, NOT ONLY THAT AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING OUR MASTER PLAN NOW AND JOHN AND I WERE BOTH IN ONE OF THE MASTER PLAN MEETINGS AND THE PEOPLE WERE DOING THE MASTER PLAN HAD NOTHING. THEY DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT THE FRUITS THAT WE HAVE COMING IN.
AND BOTH JOHN AND I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, WHY AREN'T WE LOOKING AT ADDING PRIVACY POTENTIAL? AND THEN WE FOUND OUT FOR MIKE THAT CAUSE HE HAD YOU.
SO WE'VE REQUESTED THAT HE PUT IT ON SO WE COULD GET IT IN THE MASTER PLAN BECAUSE THE MASTER PLAN IS DONE.
EVERY SHOULD BE EVERY FIVE YEARS.
BUT IF IT'S NOT IN THE MASTER PLAN.
YOU'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO BRING BACK TO COUNSEL.
FIRST OF ALL, THE TECH START ADDRESSING THE THE MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH AT THE THIRTY FIVE FEET AND ALL THAT.
THAT'LL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL HERE SHORTLY, IS THAT RIGHT.
YEAH, YEAH. WE CONGRATULATE HER AND THEN HAVE IT READY AND LOOK HOW FAST YOU'D NEED IT THOUGH. UM, WELL WE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE IT AT LEAST BY THE END OF THE SUMMER.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE THIS SECOND.
AND COULD YOU GET US LIKE A DRAFT LETTER AND WE COULD GET TO OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, OUR SENATORS ARE CONGRESSMEN SO THAT WE HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S THAT FEMALE. IT'S VERY BRIGHT.
AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM YOU WILL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL WILL BE CONCERNING THIS.
TWENTY SIX ACRES, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I WAS RECOMMENDING WE DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY JUST TO SEE IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING IN AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
DOES THAT NEED COUNCIL ACTION? I WOULD THINK SO, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY A 20 TO 30 THOUSAND DOLLAR.
ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. I'M SO NOT FOR THIS.
COULD WE ALSO COULD YOU ALSO TELL US WHAT A TIMELINE WOULD BE IN THE COST WOULD BE TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULD INVITE COMMERCIAL SERVICE? YES, AND HOPEFULLY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY COULD HELP A FAULT LINE THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THE PART OF IT IS LIKE.
INTERMITTENT FLIGHTS, AS LONG AS WE HAVE, THEN IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO PUT UP THE BARBED WIRE AND WHATNOT, RIGHT.
IF IT'S NON NON CHARTER FLIGHTS, NOT SCHEDULED FLIGHTS, YOU CAN DO THAT.
BUT YEAH, BUT IF IT'S A REGULAR SCHEDULE OR REGULAR REGULAR CHARTER, THEN WE HAVE TO MEET ONE THIRTY NINE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A CHARTER FLIGHT THAT LEAVES DALLAS AT 10 A.M. EVERY MONDAY AND EVERY FRIDAY, THAT'S A REGULAR SCHEDULE.
WE'D HAVE TO MEET IT. BUT IF IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S COMING OUT OF DALLAS ON A TUESDAY AND SOMETIMES IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THURSDAY, THEN WE CAN HANDLE IT RIGHT NOW.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY TRICKY TO ME IS HOW MANY OF THESE PRIVATE COMPANIES I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST PRIVATE JETS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE JETS.
BUT LIKE YOUR XO, YOUR GENTRIFIER, THIS ARE FLYING IN AND OUT OF OUR AIRPORT ON A REGULAR
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BASIS. AND LIKE, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT ALSO TALKING ABOUT THAT CUSTOMS PIECE? WELL, WHAT I UNDERSTAND.WHEN THE NEW PORT OPENS UP GALVESTON, IT'S GOING TO BE A STANDALONE CUSTOMS OFFICE AND NOT TIED INTO THE HOUSTON CUSTOMS OFFICE, THAT'S WHAT THAT WHEN IT OPENED UP.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE THAT INFORMATION IS, BECAUSE JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, CONROW HAS BEEN THE CUSTOMS OFFICE SIMPLY FOR PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE COUNTRY AND THEY WANT TO AVOID HOUSTON AND THEY ARE HAPPY.
I MEAN, THE NUMBER OF FLIGHTS THEY TOLD US WAS, WELL, I'VE GOT THE INFORMATION I REQUESTED. IT'S CALLED A USER FEE CUSTOMS OFFICE.
AND BASICALLY YOU PAY ALL THE EXPENSES FOR THE CUSTOMS OFFICER OFFICERS TO BE THERE ON SITE AND SO FORTH. THEY'VE GOT A THREE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, WHICH I THINK IS THE MINIMUM SIZE. IT COST THEM TWO POINT THREE DOLLARS MILLION IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS THREE HUNDRED FORTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS.
MOST OF THAT IS TO PAY FOR THE CUSTOMS OFFICERS AND ALSO THREE HUNDRED FORTY FOUR THOUSAND PAY THEIR CURRENT FEE RANGES.
AND THIS IS THE FEE THEY CHARGE THE CUSTOMER TO COME IN IS ANYWHERE FROM FIFTY DOLLARS TO THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS PER CLEARANCE.
PLUS THEY CHARGE ON WEEKENDS AND SO FORTH.
THEY CHARGE MORE AND THEN THEY ALSO CHARGE ONE HUNDRED NINETY DOLLARS PER TRASH BAG BECAUSE THAT'S FEE. DISPOSED OF IN WHATEVER THEY'RE LOOKING AT, RAISING THEIR FEES UP TO ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TO FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS PER AIRCRAFT IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN, WHEN THEY OPENED UP, THEY CLEARED EIGHTY THREE AIRCRAFT AND EIGHTEEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINETEEN HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE.
THEY DROPPED ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR TO SEVENTY FIVE AIRCRAFT TO THE RIGHT THAT THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAR 400 FLIGHTS, WELL FORTIFIED.
THEY'RE LOSING A BUNCH OF MONEY.
YEAH. I WONDERED IF THAT PER PERSON.
IT'S NOT A MONEY MAKER WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE FEES AND WHATEVER FUEL CELLS.
THAT I DID NOT GET, BUT THEY DID SAY 90 PERCENT OF THEIR FLIGHTS AND IN CONTROL AT THAT AIRPORT, WE ARE LOOKING IF WE HAD FLIGHTS TO CATCH, A LOT OF THEM SAID OF THE NINE, 12 AND 20, 19, THERE WERE NINE HUNDRED AND ALMOST A THOUSAND FLIGHTS IN THE HOBBY TO CLEAR CUSTOMS THAT LEFT WITHIN TWO HOURS TO GO ON TO THE ORIGINAL DESTINATION.
WE THINK WE COULD COLLECT PULL OFF A BIG CHUNK OF THOSE, MAYBE 10 PERCENT THE FIRST YEAR, MAYBE INCREASE IT ANNUALLY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'D BE A MONEY MAKER, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY BRING IN MORE FLIGHTS HERE AND FUEL CELLS WILL GO UP AND SO FORTH.
IT EVENTUALLY IT COULD BREAK EVEN OR MAKE MONEY.
WILL THIS INCLUDE A NEW TERMINAL FEASIBILITY STUDY? ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT? WELL, I THINK THE SCOPE OF WORK SHOULD INCLUDE HOW TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T THINK OUR EXISTING TERMINAL WILL BE BASED ON THE OPERATIONS AROUND IT. SO, YES, IT WOULD BE WORTH THE COST OF A NEW TERMINAL BUILDING WOULD BE COMMERCIAL TERMINAL WOULD BE LOCATION DOWN OR TAKE IT.
BUT AS YOU MENTIONED THAT I THINK WE HAVE POSSIBLY OUTSIDE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THAT ALSO.
WELL, OUR APPROACH HAS ALWAYS BEEN WE DON'T WANT TO BE A USER FEE AIRPORT CUSTOMS HERE.
THEY GOT THE STAFF. THEY CAN COME OUT.
YES. HAVE AN OFFICE OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY DON'T NEED A TWO POINT THREE MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY WHEN THEY HAVE ONE ALREADY IN TOWN LESS THAN FIVE MILES AWAY.
SO THAT WOULD CUT OUR COST DRAMATICALLY.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER JOHN, STICK UP A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, THE MAIN THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN OUR DISCUSSION IS THAT THE MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE WAS NOT LOOKING AT BRINGING CUSTOMS TO THE AIRPORT.
SO WE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE BROUGHT IT HERE TO COUNCIL TO SEE IF COUNSEL WANTED THAT IN THE MASTER PLAN. RIGHT.
SO I'D LIKE SOME INPUT ON COUNSEL IF WE WANT THEM TO LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET CUSTOMS HERE AT THE AIRPORT AND ACTUALLY ESTABLISH THAT AS PART OF OUR MASTER PLAN.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS I HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION WITH ONE OF THE CUSTOMS OFFICERS THAT THAT'S HERE IN TOWN. THIS IS AN ISSUE WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.
SO HOBBY IS ACTUALLY DESIGNATED AS A PORT OF ENTRY.
YES. HOW DO WE GET DESIGNATED AS A PORT OF ENTRY?
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AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE HOBBIE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS MOVING AWAY FROM GEIA TRAFFIC.HOBBIE WANTS TO BE TOTAL COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC IN THE YEARS TO COME.
THEY WANT TO EXPAND THAT AIRPORT.
THEY JUST GETS IN THEIR WAY UP THERE.
THEY DON'T WANT ALL THESE PRIVATE JETS FLYING IN THERE.
UM, AND THEY WANT TO GO FOR COMMERCIAL.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PLANES LOOKING FOR OTHER AREAS TO COME INTO.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE FLYING OVER GALVESTON IF THEY'RE COMING IN FROM OUT OF THE COUNTRY. AND SO I'D LIKE TO BE READY FOR THAT IF THAT HAPPENS.
AND I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY BE ESTABLISHED AS A PORT OF ENTRY.
WHEN I WHEN A PLANE COMES INTO THE COUNTRY TO CLEAR CUSTOMS, THEY HAVE TO LAND AT THE FIRST DESIGNATED PORT OF ENTRY.
THEY CAN'T. BUT IF THEY'RE FLYING TO OKLAHOMA, THEY CAN'T FLY OVER HOBBIE TO GO TO OKLAHOMA. THEY HAVE TO LAND IN AT HIGH.
AND SO IF WE WERE ACTUALLY WITHOUT WITHOUT A PERMIT, YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT WITH A PERMIT AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
BUT BUT WITHOUT THAT PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO LAND IT.
RIGHT. I THINK WE ARE DESIGNATED AS IS A PORT OF ENTRY, BUT FOR MEDICAL FLIGHTS HOME, THEY'VE GOT THAT RESTRICTION ON THERE.
AND I'D LIKE TO BE DESIGNATED AS A PORT OF ENTRY WHERE WE NEED THAT LIFT, THAT RESTRICTION LIFTED. THAT'S RIGHT.
WE WITH THAT'S HOUSTON OFFICE HAS THAT.
SO HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT LIFTING THAT UP? WELL, WE'VE WE'VE WRITTEN LETTERS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS TRYING TO GET LIFTED.
AND THEY JUST KEEP TELLING US, NO, OFFICIALLY IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO I MEAN, WITHOUT CUSTOMS, WE WE NEED CUSTOMS. ALL RIGHT? THEY JUST KEEP TELLING US TO BE A USER FEE AIRPORT.
THEY WOULD BE GLAD TO ACCOMMODATE BECAUSE THEY WANT US TO PAY FOR NOTHING.
I'M CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT ON THE USERS.
THERE'S TWO TYPES OF WAYS CUSTOMS GOES ABOUT ESTABLISHING THEMSELVES, THAT AIRPORT USER FEE. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER TYPE, WHICH I DON'T REMEMBER THE TERMINOLOGY OF THAT.
UM, WELL, LIKE HOBBIE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY THAT AIRPORT.
DOES IT HAVE TO PAY FOR THE CUSTOMS OFFICIALS? YOU KNOW WHAT THAT THAT THAT'S CALLED THERE'S A TERM FOR.
YEAH, HAVE HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK, I DON'T HAVE TIME RIGHT NOW, AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT EVEN WHEN WE DO GET CUSTOMS HERE FULL TIME AS AS HIS OFFICE, WHEN THE NEW TERMINAL OPENS, THAT THEY WOULD STILL BE LOOKING AT US AS A USER FEE AIRPORT.
SO IF YOU COULD GET US A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
WELL, I DON'T WHAT HAPPENED IS THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE OPEN THE TERMINAL, A CUSTOMER GETS HERE, AND IT'S ANOTHER THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR HOMEWORK TO GET CUSTOMS AT OUR AIRPORT.
SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS IS.
SO WHEN THEY DO OPEN THEIR OFFICE HERE, WE'RE RIGHT THERE IN LINE TO OPEN THE AIRPORT.
AND IT WAS THIS COULD BE ERRONEOUS.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE LOOKING TO JUSTIFY MORE STAFFING HERE.
THE NEW CRUISE PORT WILL HELP, BUT PENNY PINCHING AT THE AIRPORT WOULD ALSO HELP TO JUSTIFY THEIR STAFFING NEEDS AT THE TIME.
SO I HAD NOT HEARD THAT WOULD BE A USER FEE AT THAT TIME.
BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY STILL NEED THE FACILITIES AT THE AIRPORT.
THEY CAN'T TAKE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY IMPOUND A BUNCH OF DRUGS AT THE AIRPORT.
THEY NEED A PLACE AT THE AIRPORT TO IMPOUND THAT STUFF.
AND SO THEY NEED FACILITIES AT THE AIRPORT, NOT JUST THAT THEIR OFFICE AT THE TERMINAL.
AND WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, AN OFFICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF THEY NEED HARDENED CELLS, EXPLOSION PROOF ROOMS, STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH IS REQUIRED IN A CUSTOMS FACILITY IN THE L.A.
TIMES OR LANDING, WE WERE LANDING RIGHTS AIRPORT.
IF YOU IF YOU COULD JUST FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION.
I JUST WANT TO BE PREPARED WHEN WE DO GET CUSTOMS DOWN HERE, WHEN THAT TERMINAL OPENS, THAT WE'RE THE AIRPORT TO MEET THOSE NEEDS AS WELL.
VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? MIKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR WORK WITH THOSE GOING AGAINST THEM.
THE MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS TO NARROW RUNWAYS BECAUSE WE'RE TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN.
THERE'S NO GOING TO LEAVE. YES, I FEEL COUNCILMAN THAT.
MIKE, THANK YOU. NO, IT'S MORE OFTEN THAN NOT REALLY SAYING I'M SORRY.
THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD BREAK, BUT IT'S LUNCHTIME.
DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS YOUR ITEMS? YES. NO, I AM TAKING A BREAK.
I KNOW. WELL, WE COULD JUMP TO FIVE IF YOU WISH.
[5A. Discuss And Consider Changes To The Audit Plan. ( Quiroga/Brown ) To compare and contrast Change Orders and Staff Reports for the 45th Street Project and submit recommendations to City Council for the design and analysis of the Contract Management System (CMS).]
THAT'S THAT'S OKAY.I'LL EXPLAIN. OK, NOW I WANT TO READ.
OK, I HAVE FIVE AND IF I CONSIDERED IDIOTIC PLAN TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST CHANGE ORDERS
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FOR MORE THAN 40 DIFFERENT PROJECT.IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE DESIGN AND ANALYSIS OF THE CONTRACT MANAGEMENT FOR THE AREA. VERY GOOD.
THIS WAS PUT ON THE QUESTION BY COUNCILMAN QUIROGA BILLION OR INFAMOUS.
SO IF YOU'LL ANSWER THE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY.
THIS WAS ROUGH BECAUSE I WAS TALKING WITH GLENN THAT I WAS LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT AND THE CHANGE WAS THEY DIDN'T MATCH.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND ADD TO THE AUDIT.
SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, THIS IS THE COUNTIES WHERE WE'RE FINDING THESE ERRORS OR YOU CAN CONSERVE AND CORRECT ANY DEFICIENCIES OR ANY KIND OF MATHEMATICAL ERRORS AT THAT POINT.
CAN YOU EXPAND ON FACEBOOK IT PRETTY WELL.
HE BROUGHT CHANGE WATER TO US AND WE COULDN'T FIND IT IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO WE WANTED TO INCLUDE IT IN THE CMBS.
AND I THINK COUNCILMAN QUIROGA WANTED US TO LOOK AT IT MORE THOROUGHLY AND COMPARE AND CONTRAST AND CHANGE ORDERS FOR THE 40 YEAR HISTORY PROJECT TO THE STAFF REPORTS.
OK, SO AND GLENN, I'M GOING OUT FOR MY CLARIFICATION WHEN YOU BRING YOUR AUDIT PLAN COMING UP FOR THIS NEXT YEAR TO COUNCILMAN PROBABLY ON THIS THAT, RIGHT? YES. YOU'RE GOING TO INCLUDE IN THAT, UH, FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, PUTTING IN YOUR CRM SYSTEM, THIS EVALUATION OF THE CHANGE ORDERS AND ALL THAT IS THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF YOUR CNN SYSTEM.
YES, WE'RE GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE A COMPONENT OF CRM MAGISTRATE AFTER CHECKS ALL THE CHANGE ORDERS OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WHICH IS A BIG STEP FORWARD TO ENSURE THE COUNCIL GOT ALL OF THE CHANGES.
OK, AND WITH THIS ITEM, IT WILL GUIDE ME IF I'M BEING CORRECT ON THIS ITEM.
COUNCILWOMAN QUIROGA WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND APPLY THAT NOW TO FORTY FIFTH STREET AND LOOK BACK AT THOSE CHANGE ORDERS, IS THAT RIGHT.
YEAH. THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH FORTY FIFTH STREET AND.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCILMAN? DISCUSS, ETC.
I'M JUST WEIGHING IN ON THE BUT WE'RE NOT WORRIED BY THE TIMING OF IT SOUNDS GOOD.
YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I'M MAKE SURE WE IMPROVE OUR SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. MS., THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM FOR JANELLE, AND IF YOU COULD READ A, B AND C
[4E. a. TxDOT update on FM 3005]
WITH THAT, PLEASE, MA'AM.OK, ITEM OR A COMPILATION OF A TEXT THAT DAY, THREE OF THE FOUR COUNCILMAN RANKING IS THE GOLF CART. THIRD, THE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT AND LET'S START ON OUR MARKET.
SO IT'S NOT TOO MUCH OF A SURPRISE CRISIS.
I JUST I FINALLY CALL I FINALLY CALLED THIS PROJECT THE PROJECT FROM HOW IT'S BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR HOW MANY YEARS THEY BOUGHT THIS RING.
AND BELIEVE ME, THE RESURFACING OF THE RAISING OF THREE, DOUBLE FIVE HAS BEEN.
JUST FOR I'M ONGOING, IT REALLY WHEN YOU WATCH WHAT'S GOING ON, IT MAKES NO SENSE.
I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT TECH START IS IN A LAWSUIT WITH THE CONTRACTORS BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THE WRONG TYPE OF ASPHALT.
CAN YOU CLARIFY? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
I'LL FIND OUT. YEAH. COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? AND THE UPSIDE IS WHEN I REQUEST AN UPDATE, THEN WE WILL SEE TECH STOCKS OUT ON THE ROAD.
SO THEY'RE RAISING THE LEVEL THAT THEY'RE DIGGING DITCHES.
THEY ARE PUTTING NEW QUADROONS UNDER THREE OR FIVE TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH DRAINAGE.
WELL, THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE CALDRONS, IN SOME CASES A FOOT AND A HALF TOO HIGH.
SO THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REDONE.
BUT IF YOU DRIVE DOWN A GRAND AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RAIN, BUT THE PURPOSE OF WHAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HELP US WITH WAS THE DRAINAGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND INSTEAD ON OUR
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OWN, MY RIDE IN TODAY, ONCE AGAIN, THE DITCHES ARE FILLING UP AND NOW THAT'S DRAINING BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE FLOOD THE PRODUCTS THEY'RE PUTTING IN ARE TOO HIGH TO MAKE THE DRAINAGE FLOW.SO, I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY CALLS AND LETTERS I GET ON THIS.
WHAT'S GOING ON AS THEY RACE IN AN AREA, THEY MAY GET LIKE AN AIRLIFT BECAUSE THEY DON'T BALANCE THE STREET OUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER ON THAT, THE LAW.
SO WHY DON'T WE TRY TO JUST SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THAT? START WITH YOU. THAT'D BE GREAT.
THE PROBLEM IS YOU DON'T GET THAT DOWN HERE AND WE CAN JUST ADDRESS THOSE.
BUT WE'RE. YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYONE IN A WHILE.
[4E. b. Board applicant ranking]
BOARD APPLICANT BOARD FRANKIE.GO WITH THAT. BUT THE WAY WE DO IT, WHERE HAVE WE LAST? LIKE THE LAST ONE IS WHAT IT WAS ONE TO 20.
I MEAN, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WE WERE WRITING DOWN.
WHY DON'T WE TAKE THE RANKING SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE DO EVALUATIONS.
AND I THINK SCHUSTER HAD EVEN SUGGESTED THIS BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH JUST WRITING PEOPLE'S NAMES DOWN OR EVEN IF YOU USED THE ONE TO 10, IT'S VERY EASY TO STACK THE BOARD. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE THE RANKINGS SIMILAR TO TO HOW WE DO EVALUATIONS WHICH SEEM TO WORK FOR THE CITY FOR QUITE SOME YEARS, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF COMPANIES, AS OPPOSED TO, LET'S SAY, 20 NAMES IN ORDER.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THAT.
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT THERE.
OK, SO LET'S SAY JOHN PAUL, YOU'RE RUNNING FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOUR BOARD, YOU INTERVIEW IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL.
WELL, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD RANK YOU FROM ONE TO FIVE LIKE YOU FOR DO AN EVALUATION GROUP AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING THEM IN ORDER TO GET THE GROUP.
SHE WANTS TO WRITE EACH SEPARATE SO THAT THEY ADD UP WHAT THE TOTAL WAS FOR EACH PERSON.
OK, LET'S WALK THROUGH THAT SCENARIO.
SO THEN THERE'S TIMES WHEN IT COMES TO NOMINATIONS, WELL, THERE COULD STILL BE A TIE THE OTHER WAY TO HOW.
IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S IT'S MUCH MORE LIKE SIX OF US RANKING WHEN THEY'RE SEVEN.
IT'S IT'S A LOT LESS A LOT LESS LIKELY BECAUSE WE ARE.
I JUST THINK THAT'S A FAIR WAY TO APPROACH.
AND I MEAN AND OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, THERE'S SOMETHING TO IT THAT WE DO OUR EVALUATIONS THAT WAY. BUT WE'RE NOT EVALUATING DOWN AGAINST BRIAN, AGAINST WHAT WE'RE DOING IN EVALUATING THE APPLICANTS FOR THE POSITION THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR.
BUT WE'RE DOING IT FOR AND ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, THE WAY IT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL WAS THAT I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM OF YOU'RE SAYING THE CURRENT WAY YOU'RE ABLE TO STACK THE BOARD BECAUSE YOU CAN RANK THOSE PEOPLE IN A CERTAIN ORDER AND KIND OF MANIPULATE THE SYSTEM A BIT ON WHO GETS NOMINATED FIRST.
WE COULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T IT BE THE SAME THING IN YOUR SYSTEM? BECAUSE NOW INSTEAD OF GIVING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FIVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE, I COULD COME ACROSS AND THE PERSON I WANT, I GIVE THEM A FIVE.
IF THAT'S THE TOP RANKING, I GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE A ONE THAT BREAK THAT DROPS ALL THEIR SCORES DOWN REALLY LOW WHERE IT'S ALMOST WORSE THAT WAY, BECAUSE NOW I CAN GIVE EVERYBODY A ONE. I CAN ACTUALLY BRING THEM LOWER AND GIVE EVERYBODY A BIT.
I THINK I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK THE WAY YOU THINK IT IS.
YEAH, THEY GET IT, BUT IT MAY DEVELOP MORE CONCERNS AND D'AMBRA THINKING IF DON LET ME ASK THIS. IF COUNCILWOMAN ROBB WANTED TO PURSUE THIS, DOES THAT REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE IN ANY WAY? I THINK THAT TURNING THEM BACK RESOLUTION.
SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF RESOLUTIONS.
AND IN THIS PROCESS, AS I RECALL, THE REASON THE REASON WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IS BECAUSE THE RESOLUTION PUT IT IN AND WE HAVEN'T WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE NOW THAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO THIS, BECAUSE RESOLUTIONS IN THE PAST SORT OF CREATED AN AGREEMENT WHICH THEN WHEN SOMEBODY DOES NOT FOLLOW THE AGREEMENT, THE RESOLUTION GOES OUT THE WINDOW.
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THAT'S WHY WE PUT AN ORDINANCE FIGURE.IF IT'S BEEN PUT IN AN ORDINANCE, YES, WE HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED BY ANOTHER.
OK, WELL, MARIE, IF YOU WANTED TO FOLLOW THAT UP, BUT FEEL FREE TO GET WITH ON, WE CAN GET IT ON THE AGENDA.
I HAVE A TENDENCY TO AGREE WITH JOHN ON THAT.
I JUST THINK THAT IT MIGHT DEVELOP A MORE EQUITABLE APPROACH THAN WE HAVE NOW.
OBVIOUSLY, I CAN TELL I DON'T HAVE THE VOTES FOR IT NOW.
SO I WANT THINK THAT ORDINANCE I MEAN, I DON'T MIND THE SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW.
I CAN READ THE WHOLE RANKING THING, IN MY OPINION.
I MEAN, I COULD JUST BE FINE WITH GOING TO COUNCIL AND THROWING OUT NOMINATIONS AND IF THEY GET VOTED IN. BUT I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THE SYSTEM'S GOING TO WORK THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO. BUT I'M NOT A MATHEMATICIAN ABOUT THAT, IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT.
THANK YOU. ITEM SAY GOLF CARTS, CLARIFICATION OF DEFINITION.
[4E. c. Golf Carts – clarification of definitions]
LAST NIGHT, THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR THAT ANYWAY.SO IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE HAVE GROWN TOGETHER NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRONIC BASEBALL WITH.
WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, ELECTRONIC VEHICLES, WITH GOLF CLUBS AND IN THE STATE MALL, THEY ACTUALLY DEFINE WHAT WHAT A GOLF CART IS, WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR IT AS WELL. THEY USED TO DEFINE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRONIC VEHICLES, BUT NOW IT JUST REFERS TO THE FEDERAL DEFINITION OF WHAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRONIC VEHICLE.
SO THE ISSUES THAT IT'S CREATED IN MY DISTRICT IS MOST OF THE GOLF CARTS ON THE WEST END OR GOLF CARTS AND GOLF CARTS ARE THERE.
BUT WHEN THEY REDID THE IN THIS LAST LEGISLATION, GOLF CARTS, THEY DEFINE THEM AS SOMETHING THAT HAS HEADLIGHTS, TAILLIGHTS, BRAKE LIGHTS OR PARKING BRAKE, A BACK REFLECTOR AND MIRRORS.
ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A GOLF CART, A GOLF CART IS DRIVEN ON ROADS THAT ARE LESS THAN THIRTY FIVE MILLION MILES ON THE ROAD, OVER 20 MILES PER HOUR, THEY ARE DRIVEN TWO MILES FROM THE PRIMARY AREA THAT THEY'RE PARKED AND THEY DO NOT DRIVE ON A HIGHWAY OR BASICALLY ROADS THAT ARE OVER 30 MILES FROM.
WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT? I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S AT THE MOMENT, BECAUSE I THINK THE TWO OF THE FIVE IN THE RECENT SESSION JUST COME THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES FIVE MASTER PLAN ONLY. THAT ONLY APPLIES TO.
RIGHT. A FIVE MILE WIDE MR. COMMUNITY. SURE.
THERE'S ONE SOMEWHERE, ACTUALLY.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
BUT EVEN WITH THE FIVE MILE CHANGE ON GOLF CARTS WHERE GOLF CARTS ARE DRIVEN IN MY DISTRICT, IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T GO OVER TWO MILES.
SO IF I BROKE DOWN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, I LOOKED AT WHERE THEY TRAVELED BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE DOUBLE FIVE. SO THEY CAN'T TRAVEL ON THREE DOUBLE FIVE GRAND.
AND WE DO YOU DO SEE RENTAL VEHICLES ON THREE TO FIVE.
SO THEY ARE DRIVING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY ARE DRIVING TO THE BEACH.
THEY ARE DRIVING TO THE GOLF COURSE.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING TO HAPPEN IS THAT WE DEFINE GOLF CARTS AND WE DEFINE NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRONIC VEHICLES AS THE STATES WITH TWO SEPARATE DEFINITIONS.
AND THEN I BROUGHT AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS IS HOW BROCKPORT BROKE DOWN THE NEW RULES ON THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED, BECAUSE ONCE YOU TAKE A GOLF CART AND YOU MAKE IT FOLLOW THE RULES OF RANKEST THAT ARE UNDER A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRONIC VEHICLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MOST GOLF CARTS DO NOT HAVE, EVEN ONES THAT HAVE BEEN ZIPPED UP OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
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CALL THEM, THEY DON'T HAVE TURN SIGNALS.AND DEPENDING UPON THE YEAR OF THE GOLF CART CLUB CARD WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE HOW HOW OLD IT IS.
IT CAN COST UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO RETROFIT A GOLF CART FOR TURN SIGNALS BECAUSE THE LIGHTING SYSTEMS ARE ALL DONE BY A HARNESS.
AND THE HARNESS ON YOUR EARLIER MODEL GOLF CART DO NOT HAVE THE WIRING TO ACCOMMODATE TURN SIGNALS.
AND BY STATE LEVEL IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO USE HAND SIGNAL SIGNALS FOR TURNING AND SEATBELTS AS MORE RATES NOW AREN'T REQUIRED.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE IN DISAGREEMENT AS MUCH WITH SEATBELTS OR AS THEY ARE WITH HAVING TO SPEND A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GET THEIR CAR UP TO COMPLIANCE.
AND THAT IS ADDITIONALLY, AS THE STATE LAW READS NOW WITH A GOLF CART, IF YOU'RE IN A MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE, LICENSE PLATE, A LICENSE PLATE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE PERIOD TO DRIVE A GOLF CART, BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE PLATE, WHICH THEN BRINGS UP THE QUESTION OF INSPECTION.
AND IF WE ARE DOING AN INSPECTION, IF IT'S A GOLF CART, WHAT ARE WE INSPECTING FOR? SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BETTER DEFINITIONS AND OUR RULES OF BRAIN.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE A SEPARATION OF GOLF CARTS TO NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRONIC VEHICLES THAT DON.
THAT'S WHAT, BILL, ASK YOUR QUESTION.
WE'RE GOING TO THROW OUT AS WE WERE TALKING EARLIER, I'M WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CLASSES COMING UP FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE SERGEANT SAYS HE'S LOOKING INTO IT TO GET THE LIEUTENANT THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THIS AREA SO THAT WE CAN EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.
I'M TRYING TO GET TO CLASSES IF WE CAN FIND A VENUE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EAST AND WEST.
AND SO YOU CAN ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT BECAUSE IT'S COMING STRAIGHT FROM THE DPS, BECAUSE THE ONE QUESTION THAT HAS COME UP, AND I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF TICKETS GIVE IT OUT THIS WEEKEND, HAVING TO DO DRIVING A CAR AFTER DARK AND THE WAY THE NEW STATE LAW READS, AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL LAW, IT READS, YOU CANNOT DRIVE ON A HIGHWAY.
THIRTY FIVE OR OVER AFTER DARK.
WHEN YOU SAID A NEW STATE LAW, WHEN YOU SENT ME YESTERDAY, I MIGHT NOT HAVE SENT YOU THE RIGHT ONE IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE REGISTER.
THEY'VE UPDATED THE STATE REGISTER FOR THE STATE REGISTER.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY FINALIZE THE BILL THAT IS PASSED AND THEY ADDED AND I HAVE TO SAY WE HAVE A POWERPOINT. IF YOU HAVE ONE, YOU WANT TO SHOW US WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
AND YOU KNOW, AND WHILE WE'RE SETTING THAT UP, I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE RESIDENTS CONTACTING ME ABOUT ISSUING CITATIONS FOR DRIVING AT NIGHT.
I FOLLOWED UP ON THAT, WHICH THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INFORMATION.
THERE WERE NOT THE ARCHCITY MARSHALS DID NOT ISSUE ANY TIPS THAT DPS BECAUSE IT IS A STATE LAW THAT IS THAT YOU CANNOT DRIVE A GOLF CART ON A HIGHWAY AFTER DARK.
IT DOESN'T SAY YOU CANNOT DRIVE A GOLF CART AFTER DARK.
IT SAYS YOU CAN NOT DRIVE A GOLF CART ON A HIGHWAY OUT THERE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ROCKPORT SAYS THAT NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BE OUT THERE.
NIGHT PEOPLE, PEOPLE, I THINK CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IN ST.
PAUL JOHNSON HIGHWAY? WELL, THEY CLARIFY A HIGHWAY OF A ROAD THAT'S THIRTY FIVE FOUR OVER THE HIGHWAY.
WHETHER THAT'S A VERY ROAD WHERE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANYWAY, I DON'T SEE VERY WELL FOR THEM. I THINK THE DARK ONES WELL IS TAILLIGHTS THAT WERE OUT AND THEY STOPPED THE DRIVER AND THE DRIVER DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT AND OR INSURANCE.
THEY ISSUED HIM A CITATION FOR NO INSURANCE FOR TONY OR I'M TALKING THAT WAS MARTIAL'S.
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NO, NO, NO. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MARSHALS'.I HEARD FROM BRIAN THAT DPS GAVE TICKETS OUT ON FERRY ROAD AND WENT ON THE ROAD FOR DRIVING AFTER DARK AND A GOLF CART.
SO THIS WILL BE APPARENTLY SAFE TO GO.
BUT I MEAN, THAT WAS ALWAYS A QUESTION BECAUSE PEOPLE I MEAN, YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A MILLION QUESTIONS ON OUR NEW ORDINANCE.
I WOULD THINK EVERYONE THAT I KNOW, I HAVE.
AND IT WAS, WELL, CAN WE DRIVE AFTER DARK OR NOT? AND WHEN YOU READ THE STATE LAW AND THEN WHEN IT GOES TO NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRONIC VEHICLES NOW, THERE MAY BE TWO COPIES THERE.
THAT'S I THINK I ACCIDENTALLY SENT IN THE WRONG WAY UP ON SCREEN.
THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE FOLLOW UP RIGHT NOW.
FIFTY ONE FOR ONE MEANS A GOLF CART IS A MOTOR VEHICLE DESIGNED BY THE MANUFACTURER PRIMARILY FOR USE ON A GOLF COURSE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE, IT MEANS A VEHICLE THAT CAN ATTAIN A MAXIMUM SPEED OF 35 MILES AN HOUR.
IN OTHER WORDS, COMPLIANCE WITH ITS I THINK IT'S 22 CFR SECTION FIVE HUNDRED. THAT PORTION OF THE CFR REPLY IS THAT SLOW MOVING VEHICLES IS NOT LIMITED TO GOLF CARTS OR ANYTHING, BUT THOSE ARE THE CURRENT STATUTORY DEFINITIONS WHICH ARE UP TO DATE AND OUR REFERENCE POINTS.
SO A GOLF CART THAT'S TAKEN ON TO THE STREET IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE NOW WELL INTO A CITY THAT'S SAFE.
IT DOESN'T SAY, IN FACT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO HERE.
HE'S GOING TO, I THINK, ANSWERED THIS, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
NOW, THIS IS BUSH'S DEFINITION.
I'M GOING TO LET YOU TALK HERE.
THAT IS WHAT WE ALL KNOW AS A GOLF CART.
IT HAS A PLACE FOR GOLF BAGS AND DESIGNED TO BE ON A GOLF COURSE.
BUT THE NEXT ONE. THAT IN ITSELF IS A GOLF CART YOU SEE ON THE BACK.
IT HAS PLACES FOR THE BAGS AND IT COULD BE ON A GOLF COURSE.
THE NEXT ONE'S NEIGHBORHOOD, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THOSE THAT YOU SEE THERE, THE MALL OR WHATEVER THEY ARE, THOSE ARE CLASSIFIED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE, EVEN THOUGH THE MAXIMUM SPEED IS ONLY 17 MILES PER HOUR.
THE LAW SAYS A MAXIMUM SPEED FOR NEIGHBOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE IS THIRTY FIVE OR LESS.
SO THAT FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE A CUTE LITTLE PICTURE THERE ON THE RIGHT.
THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT I'VE SEEN AROUND TOWN.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT THAT WAS AROUND TOWN AS WELL.
THOSE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO THE NEXT ONE. THERE ARE SOME MORE NEIGHBORLY NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THOSE WERE NEVER DESIGNED TO BE ON A GOLF COURSE, BUT THEY GO LESS THAN 35 MILES PER HOUR AND HAVE THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT REQUIRED TO BE ON THE ROAD NEXT WEEK.
NOW, HERE'S WHERE PEOPLE GET A MS. HAVE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING.
THOSE WHEN THEY WERE DESIGNED ORIGINALLY WERE PROBABLY GOLF CARTS.
MANUFACTURER BUILT IT AS A GOLF CART, DESIGNED IT AS A GOLF CART.
AND THEN THEY SAID, WE HAVE ANOTHER WAY OF MAKING EXTRA MONEY.
SO LET'S MODIFY THIS GOLF CART AND TAKE AWAY THE PLACES TO TOTE THE GOLF CLUBS AND ADD SOME MORE SEATS. AND PEOPLE STILL CALL THEM A GOLF CART.
HOWEVER, THAT IS TYPICALLY A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE BY DEFINITION, BECAUSE IT STILL GOES LESS THAN 35 MILES PER HOUR.
BUT IT WAS NOT DESIGNED NOW TO BE ON A GOLF COURSE IS PRIMARY GOAL WAS TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE AROUND AS A MOTOR TRANSPORTATION.
NEXT. HERE AGAIN NOW ROLLED OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES, WHICH WE DO NOT PERMIT, WE DO NOT PERMIT NOW FOR THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH ALL HIGHWAY VEHICLES, THAT'S USUALLY GOING TO BE ON A FARM OR RANCH OR SOMEBODY TAKEN TO THE NEAREST OR WHATEVER, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT ROAD. THERE IS A ROCK SORT.
IT'S FLOWN TO THE S.J FIVE MAXIMUM SPEED FOR THAT IS 50 MILES PER HOUR.
IT'S DESIGNED FOR ALL HIGHWAY.
THEREFORE, THOSE ARE PROHIBITED BY OUR ORDINANCE.
NEXT. HERE AGAIN, OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES, THOSE ARE WERE NEVER DESIGNED TO BE FOR A GOLF
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COURSE AND THE MAXIMUM SPEED IS DEFINITELY OVER THE 35 SOME OF THOSE OF THOSE 60 OR 70 MILES PER HOUR. SO THOSE ARE ALL HIGHWAY VEHICLES WHICH ARE PROHIBITED BY OUR ORDINANCE.THE NEXT ATVS, ALL TERRAIN VEHICLES ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SADDLE AS A SEATING CAPACITY.
THEY COME IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT VARIATIONS.
THEY WERE ORIGINALLY FOR FOUR SPORTS BIKES, ONE ON THE LEFT GO OUT IN THE DESERT AND STUFF AND RIDE OUT ON THE SAND DUNES AND PLAY.
THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS YOUR UTILITY TYPE FOR GOING TO NEARLY ROBB IN THE FENCE LINES AND STUFF. THAT WAS THE FIRST TYPE OF ALPRO VEHICLE.
NOW MORE PEOPLE HAVE THE SIDE BY SIDE.
THOSE ARE THE CUSTOMIZED ATVS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE.
WE'VE SEEN THOSE DURING THE SLAM WEEKEND, THEY POPPED UP ON THE ISLAND AND THOSE THINGS WILL GO 60, 70, 80 MILES PER HOUR.
THOSE, AGAIN, ARE PROHIBITED BY OUR AUDIENCE.
AND ONE MORE MAYBE ANOTHER ONE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IS TYPICALLY WE HAVE WAY MORE NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON THIS ISLAND THAN PEOPLE THINK BECAUSE THEY CLASSIFY EVERYTHING AS A GOLF CART.
ORIGINALLY, WHEN IT WAS FIRST DESIGNED BY THE MANUFACTURER, IT WAS A GOLF CART.
AND THEY STILL PROBABLY MAKE THE MODEL THAT HALF THE GOLF CLUBS DESIGNED FOR A GOLF COURSE. BUT WHAT WE HAVE MORE ON THIS ISLAND TODAY THAN ANY OTHER TIME OUR NEIGHBOR GOT ELECTRIC VEHICLES DUE TO THE MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE BY THEM.
THEY'RE NO LONGER THAT MODEL THAT YOU SEE WASN'T NOT DESIGNED TO BE ON A GOLF COURSE.
THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT THE GOLF CLUBS.
SO IT WAS A DESIGN THAT THEY WERE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE AND NOT GOLF CLUB.
SO THAT WAS THE BIG REASON FOR ADDING NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND OUR ORDINANCE SO THAT WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS ISLAND TODAY THAT PEOPLE ENJOY TO DRIVE ARE ALLOWED TO BE ON THE ISLAND TO BE OPERATED.
HAD WE NOT INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THIS ORDINANCE, THEN THOSE TWO WOULD'VE BEEN BANNED BY THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T DESIGNED TO BE ON A GOLF COURSE AFTER THEY WERE MODIFIED.
I THINK YOU COULD HAVE BOTH, BUT I STILL THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEFINITION.
AND IF YOU READ THE DEFINITION OF A GOLF CART, IT BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF GOLF CARTS IN MY DISTRICT.
PEOPLE BOUGHT GOLF CARTS FROM THE GOLF COURSE AND HAVE.
YES, AND IT'S LIGHTS AND TAIL LIGHTS.
STILL CONSIDERED A GOLF CART, BUT AREN'T, ACCORDING TO THE STATE, ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE TURN SIGNALS OR SEATBELTS BECAUSE IT DEFINES WHAT A GOLF CART IS REQUIRED TO HAVE.
YOU'RE CORRECT. STATE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE I THINK IT'S TRANSPORTATION CODE FIVE FIFTY ONE FOR ONE PROVIDES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE.
SEE HEADLIGHTS, TAILLIGHTS, A PARKING BRAKE, RIGHT, REAR REFLECTOR HORN AND MIRRORS.
RIGHT, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING ALL THOSE THINGS.
IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A GOLF CART THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR A GOLF COURSE THAT YOU'RE DRIVING LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM YOUR HOUSE AND YOU NOW HAVE TO PAY A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO RETROFIT IT TO ADD AND TURN SIGNALS, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE HIGHEST COST.
AND YES, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU CALL.
WELL, I CALLED TWO DIFFERENT GOLF CART COMPANIES.
AND I CALLED SHAWN PORTIA'S COMPANY AND THEY BOTH SAID ANYWHERE FROM THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS, DEPENDING UPON THE YEAR OF THE CLUB CAR.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOWERED THE FEE FOR COMMERCIALS.
WE DID THIS FOR THAT, BUT WE HIT MY DISTRICT WITH THE HIGHEST COST THEN.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE DRIVING GOLF CARTS AND MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES AND EVEN PEOPLE WHO RECENTLY BOUGHT GOLF CARTS THAT AND THEY'RE STILL DRIVING THEM TO THE GOLF COURSE THAT DON'T HAVE TURN SIGNALS.
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THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST ISSUE.AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A DEFINITION.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING FOR GROUPING THEM TOGETHER.
I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES, ESPECIALLY ON THE SEAWALL AND OTHER PLACES ON THE ISLANDS WITH GOLF CARTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRONIC VEHICLES.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A DEFINITION BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME GOLF CARTS THAT ARE BEING USED AND MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES ARE NOT GOING MORE THAN TWO MILES FROM THEIR HOUSE WHERE IT'S PARKED ON ANY MAJOR HIGHWAY, ONLY ON STREETS THAT ARE 20 MILES PER HOUR.
LET'S LET'S HAVE WE HAVE COUNCILMAN COLLEGE STATION THINGS.
I THINK WHEN YOU PUT ONE OF THESE VEHICLES ON THE STREET, IT NEEDS TO BE STREET LEVEL.
PERIOD. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THIS AUDIENCE.
WE COMBINED PARTS AND THEY WERE LIKE VEHICLES BECAUSE ONCE YOU PICK IT OFF A GOLF COURSE AND GO RUN AROUND THE STREET OF TRANSPORTATION, IT'S AN ELECTRIC AND HYBRID ELECTRIC VEHICLE. DOESN'T COUNT.
YOU CAN DANCE 20 VAN SLYKE A HAND TO THAT AND ALL YOU WANT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT GOES 15 MILES AN HOUR OR TWENTY TWO MILES AN HOUR, IF IT GOES TO THE MAXIMUM SPEED, YOU JUST HAVE TO SUSTAIN THE MAXIMUM SPEED TO VAN SLYKE ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
IF IT GETS OVER THAT, IF IT'S NO LONGER AN ELECTRIC AND HYBRID ELECTRIC VEHICLE, IT'S AN AUTOMOBILE. THAT'S THE POINT OF THE LAW AS I AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
SO A GOLF CART, NO ELECTRIC VEHICLE GETS A BOAT USED TO TRANSPORT THE KIDS AROUND THERE.
THE SAME THING. I GUESS GREAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE GOLF CART WITH A GOLF COURSE WITH IT, YOU SEE A BUNCH OF KIDS GOING TO THE BEACH.
THEY'RE NOT HEADED FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DRIVE TO THE GOLF COURSE AND ARE USING THEM ON THE GOLF COURSE.
YES. AND THAT THEY ALSO USE THEM ON THE STREET TO ST.
LOUIS IS WHAT THEY WANT THEM TO BE, STREET LEGAL VEHICLES THAT THEY USE FOR TRANSPORTATION ON CITY STREETS.
THAT'S A DIFFERENCE. I'M JUST TELLING YOU, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU INTERPRET THE STATE LAW, THERE IS AN AREA FOR ACCEPTING A GOLF CART.
AS A CONSEQUENCE, JOHN DEERE AND OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, IT DOESN'T DEFINE GOLF CARTS THAT WE USE TO STATUTORY DEFINITIONS THAT WE'RE SORRY, BUT WE REGULATE THEM THE SAME WITH THE EXCEPTION AND A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY.
YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GET A LICENSE PLATE OR A GOLF CART.
THAT'S THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS THE LICENSE PLATE.
LEGISLATURE, REMEMBER, SALLY DROPPED IN AN INTERVIEW, BUT YES, THAT IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION WE'VE REQUIRE THE SEATBELTS AND SIGNAL SIGNALS, ALL THOSE THINGS YOU'LL BE OUR.
SO IF IT TRULY IS A GOLF CART AND I WAS USING IT ON THE GOLF COURSE, I WOULD NEED TO ANSWER IT IF I DROVE FROM MY HOUSE ON A PUBLIC STREET TO THE GOLF COURSE WITH MY BAGS ON THE BACK. I COULD GET A TICKET IF I DIDN'T HAVE TURN SIGNALS AND TURN SIGNALS.
ALL RIGHT. OF STATE TO IT'S NOT THE BRAKES, THE TAIL LIGHTS, ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
THE DIFFERENCE IS BASICALLY THE TURN SIGNALS.
WHICH IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING TO RETROFIT A GOLF CART WITH.
AND SO ARE THERE OTHER VEHICLES THAT DON'T NEED TURN SIGNALS ON THAT ARE ALLOWED ON PUBLIC STREETS WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT GO CAUGHT THIS MORNING AND WE CAN'T BE ABLE TO PUT OUR HANDS ON THIS NO LONGER? THAT'S MY QUESTION. I THINK MICHAEL MANUFAKTURA FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
YEAH, THERE'S A DANGER TO ANY VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AFTER A CERTAIN DATE REQUIRED IN TURN SIGNALS. BUT IF YOU HAVE A NINETEEN FIFTY SOMETHING CAR, THEN YOU DON'T TURN OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TAKING IT. IF YOU STILL USE HAND SIGNALS, YOU ARE NOT YET YOU HAVE THE TURN SIGNALS REQUIRED.
IF IT'S REQUIRED TO BE ON YOUR VEHICLE OR REQUIRED TO BE OPERATIONAL, I'D BE WILLING TO GIVE A TURN SIGNAL THE CITY ORDINANCE.
IT'S BECAUSE A SEATBELT RETROFIT CAUSED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIFTY TO SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS.
IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT, IT MIGHT COST ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY.
I THINK ALL KIDS SHOULD ALWAYS BE IN SEAT BELTS ON A GOLF CART, BUT THE TURN SIGNALS ARE THE THING THAT IS SO COST PROHIBITIVE.
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AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MAKE IT.AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE ADD A DATE TO IT OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST GRANDFATHERING THE GOLF CARTS THAT EXIST BECAUSE IT IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY TO SOMEONE WHO PAID FIFTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THEIR GOLF CART FROM THE GOLF COURSE.
HAS I STILL LIKE ALL THE STATE REQUIREMENTS NOW THEY HAVE TO PAY ON THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AND TURN SIGNALS ON WHEN IT'S LEGAL TO USE SCIENCE SIGNALS.
WELL, BUTCH, HOW WOULD YOU ENFORCE IF WE SINGLED OUT GOLF CARTS, YOU HAVE TO DEFINE THEM AND THEN YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR A COURT THAT HAS AREAS WHERE THEY COULD PUT GOLF BAGS.
SO THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEY COULDN'T HAVE A REAR FACING SEATS THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE A GOLF CART RIDE.
IT WAS MODIFIED. IT WAS A MODIFIED GOLF CART.
NOW, WHICH CLASS SPONSORS AND LABOR MOVEMENT RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU SEE A GOLF CART THAT HAS PLACES FOR BAGS IN THERE RUNNING DOWN STEWART ROAD.
THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON STAFF AND SO FORTH.
I LEARNED A SYSTEM THIS MAY BE A TURN SIGNAL REQUIREMENT WAS ALREADY A CODE.
BUT AS I RECALL, IT DID NOT APPLY TO THE WEST AND CORRECT.
SO IF YOU SEE ONE OF THESE GOLF CARTS PUT PLACES FOR BACK WORK DRIVING DOWN STEWART ROAD, YOU WOULD TREAT IT AS A GOLF CART AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS STUFF ON IT IF THE ORDINANCE WAS MODIFIED.
AND YES, THAT'S HOW IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED.
HOWEVER, FOR TO MAKE IT MORE SIMPLE FOR THE PUBLIC, EITHER REQUIRE THEM OR DON'T REQUIRE THEM IN OR MS., BECAUSE OUR GOLF THIS HAS NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND GOLF CARTS ARE TREATED EQUALLY.
SO EITHER DON'T REQUIRE THEM OR REQUIRE THEM AT ALL.
AND THERE MAY BE SOME THAT FOR THE COMBINATION, BECAUSE IT IS VERY CONCERNING AT TIMES TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME GOLF CART WAS THE PLACE FOR THE GOLF CLUBS WITH PEOPLE SITTING IN IT, NO GOLF CLUBS AROUND IT, DRIVING AROUND TOWN AS A TRAIN STATION.
THEY PUT A BOARD ACROSS IT OR SOMETHING, MODIFIED IT, AND THEY TAKE THE BOARD OFF AND WON'T TAKE THE GOLF COURSE.
SO FOR SIMPLICITY, IT WOULD BE BETTER EITHER RETRACTED ALL THE SIGNALS ACROSS THE BOARD OR REQUIRED ALL OF YOU MAKE JUST THE TURN.
SO JUST THE TERMS. GO AHEAD, JOHN.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IS IT WOULD IT BE ILLEGAL FOR SOMEONE TO NOT USE HAND SIGNALS OR TURN SIGNALS IF THEY WERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, IF THEY WERE FOLLOWING STATE LAW AND A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY AND THEY DIDN'T USE TURN SIGNALS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TURN SIGNALS, THEY DIDN'T USE HAND SIGNALS, COULD YOU WRITE THEM A TICKET? STATE LAW SAYS YOU'RE REQUIRED TO SIGNAL INTENT TO TURN IN TWO HUNDRED FEET. I WOULD BE FINE IF IF THIS GOT BROUGHT BACK TO US AT SOME POINT AND THERE WAS SOME WAY TO DEFINE THIS AND MAYBE NOT TO FIND GOLF COURSES, I THINK THAT COULD GET YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE AIR BAGS ON THERE.
YOU GOT SOME BOARD ON THE SEA.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE TURN SIGNALS AND YOU'VE GOT TO PUT SOME TYPE OF LANGUAGE IN THERE TO GIVE THE PERSON WHO'S DOING AN INSPECTION.
ARE THEY STILL GOING TO GET INSPECTED? THAT'S, UH, THEY'RE ALL INSPECTED.
SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE INSPECTION IN THERE AND THEN GIVE THE INSPECTOR THE THE LANGUAGE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE HIS GOLF COURSE BASED ON THE LANGUAGE.
AND THEN THAT KIND OF LEAVES YOU OUT OF IT.
IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE TURN SIGNALS AND DOESN'T USE HAND SIGNALS, YOU CAN GET A TICKET. BUT YOU'RE NOT JUST GOING TO PULL SOMEBODY OVER BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE BLINKERS ON THE GOLF CART.
JOHN, LET ME LET ME, UH, LET'S LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW, THE TURN SIGNAL, IF WE TOOK THE TURN SIGNAL OUT OF THE AUDIENCE, WOULD IT COME OUT OF THE RENTAL CAR TO CORRECT? IT WOULD COME OUT OF NO, NO, NO WARNING OUT OF COURT.
I'M NOT SAYING TAKE IT OUT, OK, BUT GO AHEAD.
EXPLAIN AGAIN WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE USE TO IT WAS W A HUNDRED, A THIRD STREET.
THEN IF THERE'S AN AGE ON THIS GOLF COURSE, I MEAN IF YOU GO BUY BRAND NEW GOLF CART YOU NEED TO PUT DOWN SIGNALS ON IT.
BUT IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND DOLLAR GOLF CART THAT'S NINETEEN FIFTY SIX AND ONE.
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IT DIDN'T COME WITH GOLF TURN SIGNALS.AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON THE TURN SIGNALS IN THE GOLF COURSE.
PROBABLY WORKING RIGHT THERE HAS TO BE WRONG.
AND YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO AGE A GOLF CART.
YEAH, IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR CAR AS A VEHICLE MANUFACTURER.
AND SO JUST WHEN YOU COMPLAIN THAT YOU LOVE THEM, I DON'T.
THESE CHINESE MADE ONES, YOU'RE LUCKY TO FIND THE NUMBERS.
YEAH, BUT IF THEY WERE INSPECTED, IT COULD BE DEFINED BY THE INSPECTION.
YEAH. AND IT'S JUST MORE WORK.
BUT MAYBE IF YOU DETERMINE IF IT HAS A GOLF BAG OF WRECKS, THEN IT'S A GOLF CART THAT REQUIRE. BUT WHEN THEY TAKE IT AND THEY DON'T USE IT FOR GOLF CART WITH THE RACKS AND THEY'RE USING IT FOR PERSONAL TRANSPORTATION, NOW YOU'RE BACK TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT THE STATE LAW DOES NOT SPECIFY GOLF RIGHT.
TURN SIGNALS ON SOME OF THESE IN THESE MATTER COMMUNITY.
IS THAT RIGHT OR WRONG? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE DEFINITION OF GOLF CART IS INTENDED FOR USE ON A GOLF COURSE.
SO SEGALL SAYS THAT IF IT'S A GOLF CART, IT DOES NOT NEED TURN SIGNALS.
IF IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLE AND IT'S IN A COMMUNITY, IT DOES NEED TURN SIGNALS.
CORRECT. OK, SO YOU'RE YOU'RE STILL PUSHING THE GOLF CART DEFINITION.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET THAT GOLF CART ESTABLISHED.
SO MAYBE HOW ABOUT HOW ABOUT IF THE FOUR OF US MADE AND COME UP WITH A WAY THAT WE CAN DEFINE IT? WELL, LET ME I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
ARE YOU SAYING IF IT'S A GOLF CART, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE TURN SIGNALS? IF IT'S IF IT'S MY STATE, THEY HAVE THE STATE, BUT IF IT MEETS THE DEFINITION, THEN BECOME PART OF THE STATE.
WELL, I WANT TO I WANT TO I DEWITT BUSH THAT IF IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE A REAR FOUR FACING SEA AND THEY'RE CARRYING PEOPLE AROUND, THAT'S NOT A GOLF CART.
TO ME, THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTORATE.
THAT'S SOMEWHAT THE. I ALSO UNDERSTAND I WOULD ALSO ARGUE THAT IF THEY DON'T RETURN TO THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH THEY'RE NOT RUNNING A GOLF CART, IF THEY RUN ONE ON THE SEAWALL, THAT IS ALL PRETTY MUCH BY DEFINITION.
THEY RENT OUT THE SEAWALL AND RUN IT OUT OF THE COUNTRY CLUB.
WELL, THEY DON'T EVEN LEGALLY DO THAT.
BUT BUT BACK BACK TO IF WE REMOVE THE TURN SIGNALS FROM THE GOLF CARTS, EVERYTHING ELSE IN OUR ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY TO.
YES. SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE SEAT BELTS.
THEY HAVE THEIR THEY HAVE TO HAVE WELL, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE ROAD.
THEY THEY ARE RESTRICTED BY LINES FOR A BRAKE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO SATISFY HER.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO SATISFY YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
THEY DON'T THEY WANT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINING AS NOT A GOLF CART TO NOT ENTER THINGS. THEY WANT TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ROAD DOWN THERE ON THE WAY.
NO, NO FAVORS FOR THOSE SPEED VEHICLES ARE REQUIRED, SO.
AS FAR AS GET INVOLVED, LET'S DO THIS.
MARIA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THIS, GET WITH ME WITH THE ALL THE ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THERE AND AND SEE HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO CHANGE IT.
I CAN SEE THAT. YOU CAN SEE, THOUGH, THAT'S NOT A CONSENSUS OF FEELING ON THAT.
SO WE'LL WE'LL SEE HOW THAT SEE HOW THAT MOVES FORWARD, THOUGH.
BUT YEAH. TO BE OF HOW YOU APPROACH IT AND HOW YOU THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE INTOWN DISTRICTS SAYS DRIVING AFTER DARK, BECAUSE WITH A STATE HIGHWAY, FEDERAL, WELL, A HIGHWAY IS CONSIDERED ANYTHING WITH A SPEED LIMIT.
THIRTY FIVE OR SEVEN STRAIGHT HIGHWAYS STRAIGHT, WE HAD SAID, INCLUDING CITY STREETS, I THINK. RIGHT? YES.
SO WITHOUT REGARD TO WITHOUT REGARD TO THE SPEED LIMIT OF OUR OWN RIGHT NOW, WE THOUGHT ABOUT WE HAD SAID I MEAN, TO ME, HE HAD TOLD CITY COUNCIL THAT DRIVING AT NIGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A STATE ISSUE AND WE WERE NOT GOING TO INVOLVE OURSELVES WITH ENFORCING THAT IS A STATE STATUTE THAT WE HAVE SOME MIXED COMMUNICATION FROM A MARSHAL WHO ON VACATION.
AND THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED NEXT WEEK.
RIGHT, BUTCH? BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS ANY DEVIATION FROM I THOUGHT THAT THE MARSHALS WILL BE ENFORCING THE CITY ORDINANCE, THAT THAT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS A LETTER THAT WENT
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OUT TO EVERY RENTAL COMPANY TELLING THEM FROM THE MARSHALS SAYING THAT YOU COULD NOT DRIVE A GOLF CART AFTER DARK.YES, IT WAS PROMPTED EVEN MORE THAT THAT BUSH IS ADDRESSING THAT AND HE WILL HAVE THAT PARTICULAR MARSHALL WAS ON VACATION.
WE THINK IT WILL SEND SOMETHING UP TO THE SAME DISTRIBUTION LIST AND TELL THEM THAT THERE'S A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT, SAYS YOU CAN'T DO IT.
HOWEVER, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A RECORD.
SO WE'LL MAKE IT CLEAR WITH OUR MARSHALS TO WORK AT NIGHT ANYWAY.
MAYBE IF GOLF CARTS IS ON THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS, YOU WILL SURPASS THE FERAL CAT.
I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT ON THAT NEXT.
AND SAY I TRULY REGRET EVER BREAKING UP CARBS, PERIOD.
BUT WE TRULY, TRULY REGRET IT BECAUSE MY ONLY GOAL WAS TO GET THEM OFF THE BALL UP, WHICH THEY ARE STILL DANGEROUS.
MY WIFE REMINDS ME OF FIFTY EIGHT P.M.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.