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>> [NOISE] COMMISSIONERS WE'LL CALL TO ORDER
[1. Call Meeting To Order]
THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT IS 3:35 ON TUESDAY, JUNE 22ND, 2021 CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER.BEFORE WE TAKE ATTENDANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE COMMISSIONER PENIA FOR MAKING 40 UNDER 40 [APPLAUSE].
>> NOW THAT HE'S SUFFICIENTLY EMBARRASSED, [LAUGHTER] YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE ATTENDANCE PLEASE PATRICK.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS TODAY? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ALONG.
DID WE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS,
[4. Approval Of Minutes]
ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES OF OUR JUNE 8TH THE MEETING? SEEING NONE, WE'LL ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.MS. GORMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO OUR MEETING FORMAT?
[5. Meeting Format (Staff)]
>> WE ARE HAVING A HYBRID MEETING WHERE SOME MEMBERS ARE PARTICIPATING IN-PERSON AND SOME MEMBERS ARE PARTICIPATING VIA ZOOM.
THAT IS THE SAME FOR STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
WE ASK THAT ANYTIME A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK EITHER AS THE [INAUDIBLE] OR DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS PERIOD THAT THEY THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.
THEN YOUR MICROPHONE WILL BE ACTIVATED.
>> LET'S BACKTRACK TO ATTENDANCE AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO
[2. Attendance]
READ INTO THE RECORD THE STAFF THAT'S PRESENT.>> STAFF PRESENT IN PERSON ARE MYSELF, CATHERINE BOWMAN [INAUDIBLE] PATRICK COLLINS PLANNING TECH, DONNA FAIR WEATHER ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
PRESENT ON THE PHONE ARE TIM TIJENS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
ADRIAN'S BOB, PLANNING MANAGER AND VIRGIN GRAB COASTAL RESOURCES SPECIALIST.
>> THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, I PASSED OVER THAT.
THEN AS FAR AS PUBLIC COMMENT GOES,
[6. Public Comment]
THE WERE THREE WAYS TO SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY FOR THIS MEETING FOR BOTH AGENDA AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS. ONE IS TO BE HERE IN PERSON WITH US, TWO IS BY ZOOM, AND THREE IS IN WRITING.WE DID RECEIVE ONE COMMENT IN WRITING PRIOR TO THE MEETING, IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND IS ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD?
>> YES I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE MY COMMENT.
>> IS RIGHT HERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> COMMENT IS FROM SANDRA CHAMBERS.
THE COMMENT READS, PLEASE PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE PLANS TO RECONSTRUCT WEST WING OF EAST DRIVE LOCATED IN SPANISH GRUMP INCLUSIVE OF TARGET DATES FOR COMPLETION.
THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD IS CRITICAL TO REBUILDING THE DUNES WHICH WERE DESTROYED BY LAST YEAR'S TROPICAL STORM.
>> WITH THAT CAN YOU PASS THAT ALONG TO THE APPROPRIATE CITY DEPARTMENTS SO THEY CAN BE IN TOUCH WITH OUR POLICE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM? IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM, WE WILL ASK FOR YOUR COMMENT.
ANYBODY ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM SEEING NONE, [BACKGROUND] AND WHAT ABOUT ZOOM?
>> I'VE ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION OF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ZOOM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM, IF YOU CAN USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION. SEEN NONE.
>> WE WILL MOVE ALONG THEN TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS [INAUDIBLE] OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM,
[7.A. 21P-007b (4235 Las Palmas Blvd) Request For An Application Amendment To Compensate For Adverse Impacts To 682 Square Feet Of Dune Vegetation Off-Site And To Not Include Proposed Construction Of A Single-Family Dwelling With A Driveway. Legal Description: Abst 121, Page 41, Lot 81, Blk 1, Palm Beach Applicant: A & M Wetland Consulting Services, LLC Property Owner: Bendel Seveil Rushing Jr And Lori Ann Rushing - Trustees Of The Bendel & Lori Rushing Revocable Trust]
IS 21P-007B, AS IN BOY.>> THANK YOU. KIT, 21P-007B THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR APPROVAL FOR A PROPOSED OFF-SITE DOING VEGETATION MITIGATION DUE TO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO 682 SQUARE FEET OF DUNE VEGETATION, AND TO NOT INCLUDE THE PREVIOUS PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING AND DRIVEWAY PLAN.
ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY, THE AREA IS ERODING AT A RATE OF 5-60 PER YEAR.
STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THE ABOVE REFERENCED REQUEST BE DEFERRED INTO THE JULY 20TH, 2021 MEETING IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT WHO ATTEND THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS THE FIRST REQUEST DEFERRAL AND THERE ARE NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH VIRGIE.
BEFORE WE HAVE THAT MOTION TO DEFER, WE HAVE A SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS, SO WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 3:41, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON 21P-007B? WHAT ABOUT ON ZOOM?
>> IF ANYBODY ON ZOOM WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND FUNCTION.
>> SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 3:41 ON 21P-007B, AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEFER THIS CASE AS REQUESTED.
>> SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENIA.
>> WE HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED ANY INFORMATION ON THIS CASE, ALTHOUGH YOU'VE CALLED A PUBLIC HEARING.
WHEN WE'LL KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS CASE, WILL THAT BE NEXT TIME?
>> IT WILL, YES. THE STAFF REPORT WILL BE INCLUDED IN YOUR NEXT PACKET.
>> WILL YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN AS WELL?
>> WAS THAT ALL DISCUSSION ON THIS? THEN WE'LL HAVE THE VOTE, PLEASE, PATRICK.
>> ALL IN FAVOR THE MOTION PASSES.
WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO 21BF-034.
[7.B. 21BF-034 (25661 San Luis Pass Rd.) Request For Proposed Mitigation Due To Adverse Impacts To 986 Cubic Yards Of Dunes And 13,605 Square Feet Of Dune Vegetation On This Tract And The Adjacent Tract. The Applicant Is Requesting After-The-Fact Authorization To Compensate For Adverse Impacts To Dunes And Dune Vegetation By Constructing A Compensation Area With 1,003 Cubic Yards Of Dunes And 13,624 Square Feet Of Dune Vegetation. The Adverse Impacts To Dunes And Dune Vegetation Occurred Partially Within The Line Of Vegetation. Legal Description: Abst 121 Hall & Jones Survey TR 1-4 Acres 10.010 Applicant: CRVI HPW TRS, Inc. C/O Jones | Carter – Justin Au Property Owner: CRVI CDP Lend LP]
>> IN 21BF-03425661, FAMILY PATH ROAD.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSED MITIGATION DUE TO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO 986 CUBIC YARDS OF DUNES AND 13,605 SQUARE FEET OF DUNE VEGETATION ON TWO TRACKS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AFTER THE FACT AUTHORIZATION TO COMPENSATE FOR ADVERSE IMPACT, TO DUNES AND DUNE VEGETATION BY CONSTRUCTING A COMPENSATION AREA WITH 1,003 CUBIC YARDS OF DUNE AND 13,624 SQUARE FEET OF DUNE VEGETATION.
THE ADVERSE IMPACT TO DUNES AND DUNE VEGETATION OCCURRED PARTIALLY WITHIN THE LINE OF VEGETATION.
ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY, THE AREA IS ERODING AT A RATE OF 2-3 FEET PER YEAR.
THE APPLICANT BEGAN CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES ON SITE IN JULY OF 2020 AND ADVERSELY IMPACTED APPROXIMATELY 986 CUBIC YARDS DUNES AND 13,605 SQUARE FEET OF DUNE VEGETATION ON TWO TRACKS WITHOUT PROPER AUTHORIZATION FROM THE CITY OF GALVESTON.
NOTICE THE NONCOMPLIANCE TO STICK TO THE APPLICANT AUGUST 17TH, 2020, FOR THE FOLLOWING VIOLATIONS TO CHAPTER 29 OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON MUNICIPAL CODE, FAILURE TO OBTAIN A BEACH FRONT CONSTRUCTION CERTIFICATE PLUS DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT BEFORE ENGAGING IN CONSTRUCTION.
REMOVAL OR DESTRUCTION OF VEGETATION WITHIN THE AREA AT SEAWARD OF THE DUNE PROTECT THE LINE IS PROHIBITED.
REMOVAL, RELOCATION, OR MOVEMENT OF SAND OR SAND DUNES, REMOVAL OF VEGETATION, KILLING, DESTROYING, OR REMOVING IN ANY MANNER, ANY VEGETATION GROWING ON THE SAND DUNES, SEAWARD OF THE DUNE PROTECTION LINE OR WITHIN A CRITICAL DUNE AREA.
PUBLIC NOTICE OF THE JUNE 22ND, 2021 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS SENT TO SIX ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE PROPOSED ACTIVITIES.
NO PUBLIC RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED, AND ONE WAS RETURNED TO THE CITY DUE TO AN UNDELIVERED ADDRESS.
THAT FINDS THE REQUEST CONFORMS TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON DUNE PROTECTION BEACH ACCESS AND EROSION PLAN WITH CONDITIONS AND STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
>> YOU'LL HAVE GIVE ME ONE MINUTE TO GET THAT POWERPOINT UP. I APOLOGIZE.
[NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS THE PREVIOUS CASE, SORRY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CATHERINE.
THE FIRST SLIDE IS THE TWO TRACKS THAT WERE IMPACTED.
THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE TWO TRACKS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE AERIAL TRACK AND THEN THE IMPACTED AREA SUPERIMPOSED ONTO THAT SITE PLAN, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO DUNES AND DUNE VEGETATION OCCUR.
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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S SITE PLAN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.THESE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE WHEN THE ADVERSE IMPACTS WERE TAKING PLACE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THE PHOTOS.
THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VIRGIE.
REMINDER TO THE COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ONLY, NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN, WE DO NOT NEED TO VOTE.
THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR US TODAY.
THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 21VF-034 AT 3:46.
DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE ON THIS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAND UP AND SAY ANYTHING?
>> ONLY IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> YEAH. GO AHEAD AND STAND UP [OVERLAPPING] AND IS THERE A SIGNING SHEET?
>> OKAY. REMEMBER IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T NEED A BOOK, IS IT OKAY TO ASK? [OVERLAPPING].
>> PROFESSIONALS CAN SEEK INFORMATION.
>> OKAY. GO AHEAD. [OVERLAPPING].
>> COMMISSIONER [OVERLAPPING]. YES.
>> [INAUDIBLE] JOHNSON PARTNER ENGINEER.
>> WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT YOU WERE UNDERTAKING?
THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO MOW ON THE SIDES THAT HAD FULL GROWN VEGETATION FOR YEARS, AND SO I ISSUES WITH GETTING ON SITE.
SO THE SUBCONTRACTOR THERE HAD TO MOW OUT OF THE BOUNDS OF THE DICTATED AND DISTURBED VEGETATION LINES ON THE DUNES.
>> THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
>> THERE'S NOTHING PLANNED AT THIS TIME.
THE TWO SMALL TRACKS WOULD MOST LIKELY BE RESIDENTIAL IF [INAUDIBLE]
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HOLLOWAY.
>> IT'S JUST A HOLDING COMPANY.
THE NAME IS ON THE APPLICATION, COPI HOLDINGS.
>> MAYBE I WAS WRONG, I WAS LOOKING AT THE CARD AND I FELT THE CITY OWNED THE TRACK TO THE EAST.
>> THE CITY OWNS THE TRACK IN THE MIDDLE. THAT WAS NOT IN THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> IN THE MIDDLE. OKAY. FROM THE LOOKS OF THE PHOTOGRAPH, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THERE WAS A LOT OF SAND MOVED. WHERE DID IT GO?
>> IT'S ALL BEING KEPT ON SITE SO THE PLANS THAT ARE PART OF THE STAFF REPORT, OUR GOAL IS TO BALANCE ON SITE WITH THE MITIGATION EFFORTS THAT WE'VE DESIGNED.
>> AS FAR AS I COULD TELL YOU WERE FILLING IN A SWALE?
>> NOT FILLING IN A SWALE. THEY HAD TRIED TO MOW THE SIDE AND HAD ISSUES WITH DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT GETTING STUCK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] JUST HITTING THE GROUND.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON 21BF-034 AND ON ZOOM, CATHERINE?
>> IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON ZOOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION.
WE'LL ACTIVATE YOU AND NOW YOU WILL BE ABLE TO UNMUTE AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
>>GOOD AFTERNOON. ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME?
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FIRST, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
>> MY NAME IS DR. KATHERINE PROST.
I HAVE A PROPERTY, YOU ACTUALLY SAW A PICTURE OF MY HOUSE.
THAT WAS THE ITTY-BITTY LITTLE GRAY ONE.
I AM LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING AND HAVE WATCHED IT OCCUR DURING THE TIME IT WAS HAPPENING.
IN FACT, WE ALSO REPRESENT PSO, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION THAT MANY OF OUR OWNERS ARE ADJACENT TO IT.
I'M BOTH REPRESENTING MYSELF AS AN AFFECTED OWNER AND ALSO AS A BOARD MEMBER OF PSO SUBDIVISION.
WE HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS FROM US THAT ARE IN YOUR FILE ALONG WITH PICTURE DOCUMENTATION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE PROGRESS.
BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL ISSUES THAT HAVE COME OUT.
ONE IS, NO ONE ON THE STREET WHO IS ADJACENT TO IT, HAS EVER RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION.
WE HEAR THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN SENT OUT, BUT NONE OF US HAVE RECEIVED IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER MIKE [INAUDIBLE] IS ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY ON NOW, HE'S OUR VICE PRESIDENT.
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I'M THE NEXT IN LINE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM.BUT NONE OF US, WHOSE HOUSES YOU LOOKED AT IN THOSE PICTURES HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION AS OF THE LAST TIME WE CHECKED, WHICH WAS WITHIN 24 HOURS AS OF NOW.
NO ONE RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION FROM THE BUILDER, OR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CARRYING OUT THE PROCESS, NOR ACTUALLY FROM THE COG.
SO THAT'S OUR FIRST SITUATION AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY HAD ACTUALLY SENT THINGS AND IF THEY HAVE, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THEY SENT THEM AND WHO THEY SENT THEM TO.
I ACTUALLY HAVE THREE ISSUES AND I DID SEND THIS INFORMATION INTO [INAUDIBLE] AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO GO AHEAD AND LIST ALL THREE OF THEM OF OUR CONCERNS QUICKLY OR NOT.
>> WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED YOUR COMMENTS THAT YOU SENT IN, JUST FYI, AND IF YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE ON THIS CALL WITH YOU, IF YOU'RE THE ONE ADDRESSING ALL OF THESE ISSUES AND YOU HAVE THREE ISSUES, THEN I'LL LET YOU GO A MINUTE OVER, BUT YOU HAVE ABOUT 45 SECONDS LEFT OF YOUR THREE MINUTES.
>> OKAY. A SERIOUSLY BIG PROBLEM WE HAVE IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A USAC AND A GLO COMPLIANT PLAN YET.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT AND THE THIRD THING IS THAT WE ARE SERIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT AND THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T BOTHER TO LET ANYONE KNOW WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO BE BRINGING IN HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND MOVING THE PLANT AND ALSO REMOVING ESSENTIALLY HALF OF THAT DUNE, ONE SLIDE OF THE DUNE, AND WE'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS A PROPOSED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE AS HOMEOWNERS NOTIFIED.
WE'D LIKE TO KNOW IF ONE HAS BEEN FILED.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND ONE FILED, BUT IF ONE HAS BEEN FILED, AND IF SO WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THIS.
IT AFFECTS AN ENTIRE ROAD OF PEOPLE ON [INAUDIBLE] THAT ARE ALL ADJACENT TO WHERE THIS OCCURRED.
I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE STILL SPOTS OF THAT, THAT HAVE JUST PLAIN SAND.
OTHERS THOUGHT THEY HAD BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS.
BUT THE WAY THAT IT WAS BEFORE AND THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND UNDERSTAND.
I'M SORRY THAT YOUR EMAIL DIDN'T REACH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET YOUR COMMENTS AHEAD OF TIME.
SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS.
BUT WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONDUCTING, AND I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW, WHO ARE YOU ARE CONDUCTING THE MITIGATION WOULD GET IN TOUCH WITH THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA AND TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT SO THAT THEY WOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH THE APPLICANT.
>> GREAT. MS. GORMAN SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE'LL TRY TO GET SOMETHING WORKED OUT SO YOU-ALL CAN HAVE ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS ADDRESSED.
UNFORTUNATELY AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, THIS IS SIMPLY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY A PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT A MATTER THAT WE TAKE ACTION ON.
BUT IT'S BEEN GOOD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GET YOUR COMMENTS IN AND TO SAY MORE.
ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS? IF SO RAISE YOUR HAND.
>> MR. MANTRAGO, WE WILL ACTIVATE YOU AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
>> THANK YOU. THE FIRST QUESTION THAT I HAVE.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO OBTAIN A COPY OF THE CIVIL DRAWINGS THAT WERE USED ON SITE BY THE CIVIL CONTRACTOR WHEN THE APPLICANT BEGAN CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES ON SITE IN JULY OF 2020? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION, AND THAT MIGHT BE DEFERRED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTRACTOR THAT'S SITTING IN THE ROOM AS WELL TO ADDRESS.
GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AS A PART OF THE APPLICANT PERMIT REQUIREMENTS,
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CAN APPLICANTS BE COMPELLED TO PAY FOR AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTION SERVICE TO MONITOR THE PERMITTED CIVIL WORK ACTIVITIES THAT ARE PLANNED IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR THE MITIGATION? DR. [INAUDIBLE] ASKED THE QUESTIONS ABOUT TO WHOM THE LETTERS WERE SENT TO.I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY THAT WERE ACTUALLY RECEIVED.
WILL THE DRAWINGS AND SPECIFICATIONS BE REVISED TO COMPLY WITH THE GFLOCOG RECOMMENDATIONS? WILL THE PROPOSED DRAWINGS BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE? WE HAVE A SPECIFIC INTEREST IN THOSE FROM THE SWEEP PERSPECTIVE.
WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S HAPPENING AT [INAUDIBLE] DIVISION AND IF THE PROPER ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATIONS WILL BE PUT IN PLACE.
>> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU CALLING IN.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS MATTER? THANK YOU. SEEING NONE ON ZOOM, NO MORE IN THE ROOM, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 3:57, AND THE CITY WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH THE APPLICANT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION ON BOTH OF YOU SO THEY CAN RESPOND AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO 21 BF - 063, PLEASE.
[8.A. 21BF-063 (Spanish Grant Subdivision) Request For A Beachfront Construction Certificate/Dune Protection Permit In Order To Perform Annual Beach Maintenance. The Property Is Legally Described As Follows: Lots 1-11 And Reserve 2 (0-2), Section 11 And Lots 1-10 And 18, 19, 42, 43, And Reserve 2 (0-2), Of Spanish Grant A Subdivision In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Peggy Zahler & Carolyn Bilski Property Owner: Spanish Grant Civic Assoc C/O Peggy Zahler]
>> AT 21BF- 063, SPANISH GRANTS SUBDIVISION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CONDUCT SPEECH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITY TO RELOCATE SEA WEED IN THE EVENTS OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED WASHING ASHORE.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO CONDUCT ANY ADDITIONAL BEACH MAINTENANCE EXCEPT THAT WHICH IS PROVIDED BY THE GULF DEPART BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
THE EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED PROGRAM INVOLVES THE PARK BOARD CONDUCTING BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED ALONG APPROXIMATELY 1720 LINEAR FEET OF PUBLIC BEACH LOCATED SOUTH OF THE SPANISH BRANCH SUBDIVISION.
AN EXTREME INUNDATION EVENT IS DESCRIBED AS AN ACCUMULATION OF SEAWEED, THE RESTRICT ACCESS TO THE WATER WHEN SEA WEED ACCUMULATES AT A HEIGHT OF 2.5 FEET, AND GROUND COVER WIDTH OF 10 FEET AND IMPACTS MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF THE LINEAR FOOTAGE OF BEACH.
ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY THE AREA IS ERODING AT A RATE OF 6-7 FEET PER YEAR.
PAGES 2-3 IS THE STAFF REPORT TO SUMMARIZE THE APPLICANTS PROPOSED BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITY.
THE APPLICANT SITE PLAN AND NARRATIVE ARE SUBMITTED WITH THIS REQUEST IN YOUR STAFF PACKETS, STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST CONFORMS TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON DUE PROTECTION OF BEACH ACCESS PLAN AND EROSION RESPONSE PLAN, AND STAFF OBSERVATIONS REGARDING THE BEACH FOR CONSTRUCTIONS WHICH WOULD MAKE IT PASS PROTECTION PERMIT STANDARDS FOUND IN THE CITY'S DUNE PROTECTION BEACH EACH ACCESS PLAN ARE LISTED ON PAGES 2-3 AT THE STAFF REPORT.
STEPHENS REMAINING DUNE PROTECTION STANDARDS ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THIS REQUEST.
THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL GATES 21 BF-063, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ARE LISTED 1-15 AND STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR A BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION CERTIFICATE PLUS DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT ARE LISTED 16 THROUGH 19.
STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR YOUR REVIEW.
>> [OVERLAPPING] EXCUSE ME I AM SORRY.
>> THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SUBDIVISION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS IS THE APPLICANT SITE PLAN OF WHERE SEAWEED WOULD BE RELOCATED IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATIONS OF SEA WEED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THESE ARE THE APPLICANT SITE PHOTOS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE OF PHOTOS NEXT SLIDE.
THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT.
>> THANK YOU, VIRGIE. COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
>> BOBS HAND WAS UP FIRST. GO AHEAD BOB.
ON YOUR AERIAL MAP IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT SHOWS THE PLANET SUBDIVISION THERE AND THEN THE PLANET BOUNDARIES TO THE SOUTH, WHICH WIND UP BEING ON THE BEACH ARE IN BLUE, WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THOSE LOT LINES IN BLUE? [NOISE].
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>> THOSE ARE JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE AREA OF THE PUBLIC BEACH WHERE THE CLEANING WOULD OCCUR.
IT'S JUST HOW IN GIS THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE PARCEL THAT ONCE EXISTED.
>> THOSE PARCELS ARE PART OF THE PUBLIC BEACH, SO THEY'RE NO LONGER PART OF THE SUBDIVISION PARCELS, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> NO, THEY'RE ALWAYS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION.
>> WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE BLUE THEN IF THIS MEANS THEY ARE ON PUBLIC BEACH.
>> IT'S JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE LINEAR FOOTAGE AND THAT'S JUST HOW GIS HIGHLIGHTS IT.
NO SIGNIFICANCE OTHER THAN IT'S FROM HERE TO HERE, FROM A - B, EAST TO WEST.
>> YEAH I THINK SO. ANOTHER ONE ON YOUR PHOTOGRAPH NUMBER 9 UP THERE IT SHOWED A LINE GOING DUE WEST, SOUTH WEST. IS THAT? IS THAT A PROPERTY LINE? THAT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THIS SUBDIVISION, WE'RE OUTSIDE [INAUDIBLE]..
>> I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SAND FENCE THAT WAS PERMITTED FOR THE DIVISION.
>> OKAY, THAT'S JUST THE KIND OF SAND?
>> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. IT'S ALL I HAVE, THANKS.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WALLA.
>> WE GOT INTO THIS DEPTH AT OUR LAST MEETING ON HOW MANY TIMES THEY CAN CLEAN IT, AND I KNOW THIS IS DIFFERENT.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, THEY'RE GOING IN AND ACTUALLY APPLYING FOR A BEACHFRONT DUNE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR AUTHORITY COMES IN TO GET TO SAY, "HEY, YOU CAN DO IT." OR "NO, YOU CAN'T." AND HOW MANY TIMES YOU DID.
IS THERE A PREREQUISITE OF, "THESE ARE THE RULES YOU'VE GOT TO FOLLOW." AND THEN ALLOW THIS, THEIR CLEANING STATE PROPERTY AND THOSE OTHER INSTANCES.
DOES IT NOT GET GLO APPROVAL? I'M JUST CURIOUS. THIS IN THERE. OKAY, I DIDN'T SEE IT.
SORRY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHERE OUR AUTHORITY COMES IN DETERMINING?
>> GLO, DONNA SHOULD ANSWER THAT.
>> DONNA, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT?
>> WELL, THE AUTHORITY COMES PREDOMINANTLY FROM OUR CITY CODE AND THEN YOU CAN REFERENCE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WHERE IT ALLOWS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THOSE PLANS REGARDING MAINTENANCE OF THE BEACH.
THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT IS, WAIT A SECOND, WE ARE GETTING THE GLO INVOLVED, WERE GETTING ALL THESE OTHER ENTITIES INVOLVED, BUT LDRS CURRENTLY ALLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THOSE TYPES OF PERMITS FOR EACH MAINTENANCE.
>> SO THAT'S WHAT GIVES PLANNING COMMISSION AUTHORITY TO SAY, "HEY, YOU CAN DO IT ONE TIME." OR "YOU CAN DO 100 TIMES."?
>> RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK IN THIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IN THIS FIRST PARAGRAPH, THINK ABOUT IT.
THEY HAVE TO GET A DUNE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT FOR THIS.
WE HAVE TO GRANT THAT, CITY CODE ALLOWS US TO GRANT THAT.
THE REASON THAT WE HAVE THEY HAVE TO GET A BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTIONS CERTIFICATE DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT IS BECAUSE WHEN THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, AND THIS IS A MECHANIZED ACTIVITY, SO IT'S A CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, OCCUR IN AREAS WITHIN OR SEAWARD OF THE DUNE CONSERVATION AREA.
>> OR UP TO 50 FEET LANDWARD OF THE DUNE PROTECTION MINE.
THIS IS WHAT PUTS IT IN OUR PURVIEW, IS THAT WE HAVE TO GRANT THEM A BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT TO DO ANY KIND OF BEACH WHICH MAINTENANCE.
WHETHER IT'S THIS ONE, EXTREME INUNDATION WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN HAPPEN THIS YEAR, OR IF IT'S REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
IT HAS TO BE A BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.
>> I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON.
LOOK, THERE WAS A GROUP THAT WANTED TO DO IT MORE THAN THE OTHER, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW IS IT THAT WE COME UP WITH THIS MAGIC NUMBER AND SAY, THAT'S IT.
>> IN THIS CASE, REALLY, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMAL, BUT I HAVE THE QUESTION AND I'D REALLY WANT TO ASK STAFF HOW DO WE DO THAT?
>> WE'VE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION LATER TODAY, WHICH WAS WHERE IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO BRING THIS UP SINCE IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS CASE.
WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT'S REVIEW A BEACH MAINTENANCE PERMIT [INAUDIBLE].
THAT'S A BETTER PLACE TO TOP IT OFF.
>> MS. CHAIR, I THINK MR. [INAUDIBLE] MAY HAVE A COMMENT.
>> OH, I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER,
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IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AROUND THE TABLE AND NOT LOOKING SO MUCH AT THE SCREEN THIS TIME, SO I APOLOGIZE.>> YES, NO PROBLEM. I'LL COME BACK TO THAT CONVERSATION WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
>> NOW YOU FROZE. OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
YOU'LL COME BACK, YOU'LL WAIT TILL THE 9C ALSO FOR YOUR COMMENT? I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT AS A YES.
[LAUGHTER] AT LEAST IT CAUGHT HIM WITH A GOOD LOOK ON HIS FACE.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 21BF-063 AT 4:06 PM.
IS THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE? NO, WE DO NOT HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE LINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? I DON'T SEE PEGGY.
>> I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT SIGNED IN UNDER THEIR NAME, SO IF THERE'S AN ADVOCATE HERE FOR THIS CASE, PLEASE USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND FUNCTION.
OTHERWISE, IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, ALSO USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND FUNCTION.
ALL RIGHTY. MS. CHAMBERS, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED A MINUTE AGO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? SAYING NO.
>> ALL RIGHTY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 21BF-063407 AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR A VOTE.
>> A MOTION. CAN I MAKE A MOTION? [LAUGHTER]
>> YES, YOU MAY. COMMISSIONER HOLLOWAY.
>> IN THE 21BF-063 BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.
>> WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI.
DISCUSSION? SEEING NO DISCUSSION, WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. PLEASE, PATRICK.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, THE MOTION PASSES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO 21BF-089, PLEASE.
[8.B. 21BF-089 (Terramar Beach Subdivision) Request For A Beachfront Construction Certificate/Dune Protection Permit In Order To Perform Annual Beach Maintenance. The Property Is Legally Described As Follows: Lots 1-17, Section 5, And Lots 1-25, Section 1, Of Terramar Beach A Subdivision In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Lisa Porter, Managing Agent & Craig Vance Property Owner: Terramar Beach Community Improvement Assn]
>> 21BF-089 TERRAMAR BEACH SUBDIVISION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CONDUCT BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES TO RELOCATE SEAWEED IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED WASHING ASHORE.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO CONDUCT ANY ADDITIONAL BEACH MAINTENANCE, EXCEPT THAT WHICH IS PROVIDED BY THE GALVESTON PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
THE EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED PROGRAM INVOLVES THE PARK BOARD CONDUCTING BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES IN THE EVENTS OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED ALONG APPROXIMATELY 2,800 [INAUDIBLE] FEET OF PUBLIC BEACH LOCATED SOUTH OF THE TERRAMAR BEACH SUBDIVISION.
EXTREME INUNDATION EVENT IS DESCRIBED AS AN ACCUMULATION OF SEAWEED THAT RESTRICT ACCESS TO THE WATER.
WHEN SEAWEED ACCUMULATE AT A HEIGHT OF 2 1/2 FEET AND GROUND COVER WITH A 10 FEET BEAT AND IMPACT MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF THE LINEAR FOOTAGE OF BEACH.
ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY, THE AREA IS ERODING AT A RATE OF 6-7 FEET PER YEAR.
PAGES 2 TO 3 OF THE STAFF REPORT SUMMARIZE THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES.
THE APPLICANT'S SITE PLAN AND NARRATIVE ARE SUBMITTED WITH THIS REQUEST IN YOUR STAFF PACKET THAT FINDS THE REQUEST CONFORMED TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON DUNE PROTECTION AND BEACH ACCESS PLAN AND EROSION RESPONSE PLAN.
NOW, IF OBSERVATIONS REGARDING THE BCC DPPS PERMIT STANDARDS FOUND IN THE CITY'S DUNE PROTECTION AND BEACH ACCESS PLAN ARE LISTED ON PAGES 2 TO 3 OF THE STAFF REPORT.
STAFF FINDS THE REMAINING DUNE PROTECTION STANDARDS ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THIS REQUEST.
THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CASE 21BF-089 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.
SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ARE LISTED 1 THROUGH 15 AND STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR A BCC, DPP ARE NUMBERED 16 THROUGH 19.
STAFF IS PREPARED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR YOUR REVIEW.
THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF JUST THE LENGTH OF THE SUBDIVISION.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE APPLICANT SITE PLAN AND WHERE THE SEAWEED WOULD BE RELOCATED IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF THE SEAWEED WASHING ASHORE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THESE ARE THE APPLICANT'S PHOTO OF THE AREA THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED IN THAT EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL OF THE APPLICANTS PHOTO, SO THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT.
>>THANK YOU, VIRGIE. I APPRECIATE IT.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON 21BF-089? OH VIRGIE, YOU'RE GOING TO ESCAPE ON THIS ONE.
[LAUGHTER] I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHTY, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 21BF-089 AT 4:10 PM.
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IS THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE? IS THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE?>> MS. PORTER, YOU'VE BEEN ACTIVATED [OVERLAPPING]
WELCOME AND PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND YOU CAN ENLIGHTEN US ON ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TELL THE COMMISSION ABOUT PLEASE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
WE COULD SEE THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE COMMUNITY CERTAINLY AGREE TO ABIDE BY THE PARK BOARD GUIDELINES ON THIS AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
>> COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. PORTER? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
WE'LL MOVE ON. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE TERRAMAR BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION?
>> IF SO, YOU CAN USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION.
>> WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 21 BF089 AT 4:12 PM AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR A MOTION.
[LAUGHTER] YES, COMMISSIONER HOLLOWAY?
>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT 21 BF89 BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.
>> A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PENIA.
DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? NO DISCUSSION. CALL A VOTE, PLEASE, SIR.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, THE MOTION PASSES.
[8.C. 21P-029 (2127 Avenue O 1/2) Request For Designation As A Galveston Landmark. Property Is Legally Described As M.B. Menard Survey, North 54-3 Feet Of Lot 1 (3001- 1), Southeast Block 68, Galveston Outlots, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicants And Property Owners: Brendan And Crystal Jacobs]
[NOISE]>> I'LL STAND UP HERE JUST SO I CAN BE HEARD WELL.
21P-029, THIS IS A 212 7TH AVENUE [INAUDIBLE] , THIS IS A REQUEST FOR GALVESTON LANDMARK.
THERE WERE 37 PUBLIC NOTICES SENT, ONE RETURN, ONE IN FAVOR.
[NOISE] OF THE HOUSE OF 212 7TH AVENUE [INAUDIBLE] WAS BUILT IN 1907 FOR JOHN AND MARY YOUNG, REPLACED TWO HOUSES THERE WERE, LOST THROUGH THE 1900 STORM.
JOHN YOUNG WAS A GALVESTON, A STEVEDORE, A BUSINESS OWNER ORIGINALLY FROM WESTPORT, IRELAND.
HE BUILT THREE OTHER HOUSES IN THE WEST AFTER THE STORM, ALL OF THEM WERE TENANT HOUSES.
OF THE FOUR, THREE STILL REMAIN.
HIS WIFE MARY WAS BORN IN NEW ORLEANS, AND TOGETHER, THEY HAD FIVE CHILDREN.
THE YOUNGS WERE LONGTIME GALVESTON RESIDENTS WHO FIRST APPEARED IN THE CITY DIRECTORIES IN 1880.
IN ADDITION TO BEING A SCREWMAN AND STEVEDORE, YOUNG WAS ALSO A PROPRIETOR OF THE NEW WHARF SALOON AT 31ST STREET MARKET.
HE LATER PARTNERED WITH A FELLOW STEVEDORE CHARLES PSEUDOMAN AND BENJAMIN DOLSON AND FORMED A MARINE SERVICES COMPANY, JOHN YOUNG COMPANY INCORPORATED.
THE ORIGINAL 1907 INSURANCE RECORDS DESCRIBE 212 7TH AVENUE [INAUDIBLE] AS A TWO-STOREY FRAME BUILDING AND A MIDDLE ROOF CONTAINING FIVE ROOMS; ONE HALL, ONE CLOSET, TWO PORCHES.
BUT ACTUALLY, 20TH OF THE HOUSE HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO TWO APARTMENTS.
YOUNG'S MAINTAINED THE HOUSE AS A REAL PROPERTY UNTIL MR. YOUNG'S DEATH IN 1939.
AS WITH MANY HISTORIC GALVESTON HOMES AND SOME OF THE OTHER HISTORIC LANDMARKS, THE JOHN AND MARY YOUNG HOUSE SERVES AS IMPORTANT ROLE AS TENANT HOUSING FOR MUCH OF ITS HISTORY.
AMONG THE TENANTS OF THE HOUSE, NOTE WORTHY TENANTS THAT INCLUDES THE YOUNG SON JOHN WILLIAM AND HIS WIFE MAUDE MISTROT.
MAUDE'S FATHER WAS A WELL-KNOWN LOCAL DRY GOODS MERCHANT NAMED PIERRE MISTROT.
THE MISTROT BROTHER'S STORE WAS LOCATED ON MARKS AND BLUM BUILDING 325 MECHANICS STREET.
OTHER TENANTS INCLUDE A YELLOWSTONE POLICE DETECTIVE JOHN DATE, EDWARD CUMMINGS, A PUMP MAN WHO WAS EMPLOYED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
THE HOUSES RETAINS MUCH THE ORIGINAL APPEARANCE IN A MORE SIMPLIFIED NATIONAL FOLKLORE, FOLK VICTORIAN STYLE.
ITS HISTORY AS TWO RENTAL HOUSE, LOOKED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PURPOSE.
IT'S TYPICAL OF GALVESTON'S RESIDENTIAL NEEDS TO HAVE PERIODS OF GROWTH BEFORE AND AFTER THE 1900 STORM.
PRESERVING THE HOUSE AS A GALVESTON LANDMARK WILL SECURE ITS PLACE IN THE CITY'S HISTORY.
PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE FOR FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR STORED PROPERTIES FROM NEW GALVESTON LANDMARKS.
THE LANDMARK COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AT THEIR JUNE 21ST REGULAR MEETING.
CITY COUNCIL HAS A FINAL DECISION REGARDING THE REQUEST AND THEY WILL HEAR THE REQUEST AT JULY 22ND, 2021 COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS.
A COUPLE OF PHOTOS WITH SUBJECT PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH, AND TO THE WEST ON THIS INCLUSIVENESS REPORT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.
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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DANIEL?>> I HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT ARE THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES?
>> FINANCIAL INCENTIVES ARE GENERALLY FOR HOUSES WITHIN OR OUTSIDE THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
IF THEY DO SUBSTANTIAL REHABILITATION, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A FREEZE ON THERE, THE C PORTION OF THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
THEY HAVEN'T PROPOSED ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT THEY ARE ELIGIBLE.
WE REALIZED THAT IN OUR STAFF REPORTS.
>> THERE'S ANOTHER BENEFIT WHICH IS FOR NEW LANDMARKS OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GET A 35 PERCENT REDUCTION IN THE CITY PORTION OF THEIR TAXES FOR FIVE YEARS.
>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DANIEL? ALL RIGHT. IS THE LANDOWNER ON THE PHONE, THE APPLICANT?
>> ACTIVATED AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT YOUR HOUSE?
>> THANKS FIRST FOR HEARING MY CASE, THIS IS RAYMOND JACOBS, PROPERTY OWNER.
MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE IN MARCH OF 2019 AND WE QUICKLY FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.
EVERY TIME WE GO DOWN THERE AND VISIT, WE LOVE IT.
WE QUICKLY GREW TO APPRECIATE JUST THESE HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR OVER A 100 YEARS AND ALL OF THE EFFORT THAT GOES INTO PRESERVING THEM, THE HISTORY.
HONESTLY I LOVED FEELING LIKE WE OWN A PIECE OF HISTORY AND I LIKE TO MAKE IT AN OFFICIAL PIECE OF HISTORY.
>> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU INVESTING IN THE ISLAND, AND I LOVE THE COLORS YOU CHOSE FOR THE HOUSE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. JACOBS?
>> I JUST COMMEND HIM. THESE HOUSES ARE COOL.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT DO THAT STUFF ARE CRAZY.
[LAUGHTER] IT IS A LABOR OF LOVE, I'M SO THANKFUL THAT YOU DO IT.
I GIVE YOU MY THANKS FOR STEPPING UP AND DO THAT.
>> DEFINITELY. WE DID A LOT BETTER THAN THEY WOULD BE THE OLDER HALF WHO THEY ARE.
THEY ARE DIFFERENT PIECE ALL TOGETHER. [LAUGHTER]
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE EITHER IN THE ROOM OR ON THE LINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION?
>> IF THERE'S ANYONE ON THE ZOOM CALL, YOU CAN USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND FUNCTION. SEEING NONE.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 4:18 ON 21 P-029, AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE, VICE CHAIR BROWN.
>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE 21P-029 [INAUDIBLE].
>> THANK YOU, AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER EDWARDS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NO DISCUSSION, WE'LL HAVE THE VOTE, PLEASE, SIR PATRICK.
>> IN FAVOR, [LAUGHTER] SORRY.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, THE MOTION PASSES.
CONGRATULATIONS, MR. JACOBS, AND THANKS AGAIN.
NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO 21P-031.
[8.D. 21P-031 (1825 23rd Street) Request For A Replat In Order To Increase The Number Of Lots From Four To Seven. The Properties Are Legally Described Lots 8 – 11, Southeast Block 67, Galveston Outlots, In The City And County Of Galveston, Texas. Applicant: Tricon Land Surveying, LLC Property Owners: Ted Shook And Al Fichera]
STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.>> 21P-031 1825 THE 23RD STREET.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REPLANT IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LOTS FROM 47 IN AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A CONSOLATION DISTRICT OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT.
THE REASON THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING NORTH OF TEXAS, THE EYE CLINIC OF TEXAS, THE SIZE COMPRISED OF 47 ACRES.
EACH SURROUNDING LOTS CONTAIN A VARIETY OF USES INCLUDING ONE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL COMMERCIAL.
PLEASE NOTE THE DRAINAGE, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE [INAUDIBLE] AS WELL AS THE [INAUDIBLE] CRITERION ON PAGE 2 OF THE REPORT.
THIS STREET FLAT MEETS THE MINIMUM LOT STANDARDS FOR LOTS IN THIS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD SPACE ZONING DISTRICT.
PART OF THE THREE ADDENDUM FOR THE UN NEIGHBORHOOD HAD A MINIMUM LOT AREA 2,500 SQUARE FEET, WITH MINIMUM LOT AREA REQUIRED THAT WE MEET THAT CRITERIA.
THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF
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THE REQUIRED REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, GIVING ONE SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT THE PLAQUE SHALL BE FILED BY THE SUMMER 22ND OF THIS YEAR IN STANDARD CONDITIONS LISTED AT STATE REPORT AREA REPORT.[NOISE] THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THAT BUILDING IS NO LONGER HERE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS A CURRENT IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE AREN'T ANY PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONFIGURATION [INAUDIBLE].
>> THANK YOU, ADRIEL. COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR ADRIEL? COMMISSIONER BROWN.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS. DO WE KNOW WHAT YOUR SETBACKS ARE IN THIS LOCATION?
>> THIS ONE HAS NO SETBACKS ON THE SIDES, REAR, OR FRONT.
THERE ARE CERTAIN [INAUDIBLE] WHEN IT COMES TO THE UN.
THEY WOULD HAVE CONSERVATION DISTRICT OVERLAY, HOWEVER THE BASE ON THIS DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE ANY THING.
>> THERE'S NO SIDE YARD SETBACK?
>> CORRECT. KEEP IN MIND THAT BUILDING CODE SETBACKS MAY BE INCONSISTENT WITH OURS, AND THEREFORE MAYBE THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT IN THE BUILDING ASPECT OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
>> MAYBE YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT.
AS YOU ALL RECALL, WE SAW OR REZONING ON THIS ONE FROM COMMERCIAL TO UN THAT WE SAW A WHILE BACK.
I THINK YOU ALL WERE ON BUT IT WAS PROBABLY RIGHT BEFORE REJONE JOINED US.
WE'VE SEEN A REZONING ON THIS TO GET IT TO THE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 4:13.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> WE'D GLADLY ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT I POSSIBLY CAN.
>> COMMISSIONERS, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ASK MR. FICHERA A QUESTION? BOB, DID YOU WANT TO ASK HIM ANY QUESTION? [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD TOWNHOUSES ON HERE?
>> YES. THERE WILL BE NONE ATTACHED. NO.
>> OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR SIDE, YOU'RE SETBACK?
>> WE HAD A ZOOM MEETING AND WENT THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITH IT.
WE WILL HAVE THE ONE SIDE, WE'LL HAVE A FIVE-FOOT SETBACK AND THEN ONE SIDE WILL HAVE A ONE-FOOT BUT THEY'LL BE FAR AWAY, SO THEY'LL COMPLY. WE KNOW.
>> YOU'LL WIND UP BEING SIX FEET PER [INAUDIBLE].
>> THEN, WE'LL HAVE THE FRONT STANDARD 10-FOOT SETBACK OFF THE LINE.
THEN, THE GARAGE IS IN THE REAR.
THERE'LL BE FIVE FEET IN FROM THE ALLEY LINE AND THEY'LL LOAD ALL OFF THE BACK OF THE GARAGES.
>> THEY WIND UP BEING ABOUT 18 1/2 FEET WIDE.
>> RIGHT. VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONES GALVESTON COLLEGE BUILT.
>> SAME ARCHITECT, MATTER OF FACT, BUT A LITTLE MORE ORNATE.
THERE ARE TWO-STORY VICTORIAN PORCHES, VERY MUCH SORT OF GOT THE IDEA FROM THE PAINTED LADIES IN CALIFORNIA, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE ON THE TROLLEY TRACK AS WELL AND HAD TO BE [INAUDIBLE] AS WELL.
>> ANYTHING ELSE I CAN ANSWER, I'LL BE GLAD TO.
>> COMMISSIONERS, ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? NO. SEEING NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 4:25.
THIS IS A REPLAT MINISTERIAL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 21P-031.
>> THEN, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PENIA.
SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE AN AUCTION, THEY'RE THROWING THEIR HANDS UP THERE.
[LAUGHTER] WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, LET'S CALL THE [INAUDIBLE] , PLEASE, PATRICK. [NOISE]
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>> ALL IN FAVOR. THE MOTION PASSES.
NOW, WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS, COMMISSIONERS.
[9.A. 2021 Planning Commission Awards (Staff)]
FIRST STOP, WE HAVE THE 2021 PLANNING COMMISSION AWARDS.>> [BACKGROUND] AT THE LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT OPENING THE PUBLIC NOMINATION PERIOD EARLIER THIS YEAR SO WE CAN GET AS MANY NOMINATIONS LAST YEAR.
I SENT THAT TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FOR US TODAY.
THEN, THEY WILL REMAIN OPEN UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST.
WE WILL HAVE THE ENTIRE SUMMER TO TURN IN YOUR NOMINATIONS.
THEN, I ENCOURAGE ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THAT HAS ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, YOU JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL WITH THAT INFORMATION.
>> DID YOU GET MINE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> CAN WE GIVE YOU ONE RIGHT NOW?
>> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE THE 1903 FIREHOUSE NUMBER 3 FOR [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE STILL HAVE THE ONES THAT WERE HOLDOVER FROM LAST YEAR OR DO WE NEED TO SPECIFY THOSE?
>> YEAH, WE'LL KEEP THOSE ON THE ROSTER.
>> WHEN YOU GO TO MAKE YOUR DECISION, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY ADD IN ALL THE ONES THAT WERE LAST TERM.
>> OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE THE LOST BIRD PROJECT, BUT THAT WAS A HOLDOVER FROM LAST YEAR.
>> YEAH. I'M NOT SURE OF THE ACTUAL TITLE OF THE TWO PLACES I'M INTERESTED IN, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THE REINHARTS HAVE DONE AND ALSO I THINK IT'S THE PALISADE.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON THE EAST.
>> OH, NO. IT'S BEACHTOWN AND BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.
>> RIGHT. FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, THEY BOTH WENT UNDER THEIR NUMBER OF MECHANICAL RANKINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROACTIVENESS OR SOMETHING.
IT COULD BE ALONG THOSE LINES.
>> OKAY. SO SPECIFIC TO THEIR BEACH MAINTENANCE PRACTICES?
>> [OVERLAPPING] ALL THE TIME.
>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY WORTH THEIR 2020 ACTIONS BECAUSE THEY BOTH VOLUNTEER EARLY, PULLED BACK ON THE BEACH CLEANINGS LAST YEAR.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. OUR BEACHES WERE CLOSED.
[LAUGHTER] DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO HAVE A NOMINATION THAT THEY WANT TO BRING FORTH NOW? YOU'LL KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN.
>> IT'S HARD TO SEE WHEN YOU DON'T DRIVE.
>> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MARK'S PLACE.
I THINK IT'S REALLY CHANGED OUR MARKET STREET.
IT'S IN THE [INAUDIBLE] BUILDING, SO IT'S 25.
IT USED TO BE THE RESTAURANT. WHAT IS IT? IT USED TO BE THE CAFE THAT WHEN YOU WALK INSIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE A CASTLE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MARK METZGER'S?
>> YES. I LOVE WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
[OVERLAPPING] [NOISE] OUR BUILDING IS TWO BUILDINGS FROM HIS AND HE'S REALLY DOING A GOOD JOB ON THE OUTSIDE, REALLY BEAUTIFYING THAT BUILDING. IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
>> OKAY. [INAUDIBLE] THE ADDRESS.
>> BUT ANYWAY, WE WON'T GO THERE.
>> WELL, WE'RE DOING THE BUILDINGS.
>> ANY OTHERS? ALL RIGHT, THEN, YOU ALL KEEP LOOKING, PLEASE.
>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT THING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS FOR REPLAT PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENT.
[9.B. Replat Public Hearing Requirement (Hill)]
SINCE WE HAVE THREE NEW COMMISSIONERS, [NOISE] I WOULD LIKE FOR CATHERINE TO PLEASE EXPLAIN OUR OPTIONS ABOUT HEARING REPLAT CASES SINCE THEY ARE MINISTERIAL.THEN, THE COMMISSION CAN DECIDE WHICH TRACK THEY WANT TO TAKE.
>> I THOUGHT I HAD THIS IN THE POWERPOINT. LET ME DOUBLE-CHECK IT.
[BACKGROUND] WELL, I THOUGHT I HAD [NOISE] PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT.
LET ME JUST DOUBLE-CHECK THIS ONE.
>> YOU KNOW IT BACKWARDS AND FORWARD.
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>> I SURE HOPE I DO. [LAUGHTER]
>> AS WE ARE ALWAYS REMINDING THE COMMISSION, THE ACT OF PLATTING IS A MINISTERIAL ACT.
ALL OF THE RESTRICTIONS ARE SET BY STATE LAW.
WE HAVE VERY MINIMAL LEEWAY WITH PLATS.
IN ORDER TO DENY A PLAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO FIND THAT IT IS AGAINST THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S A PRETTY BIG HURDLE TO JUMP OVER.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEES A SET OF PLATS WE CALL MINOR PLATS.
TRYING TO THINK. DANA MIGHT HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS.
>> WHEN IT INVOLVES FOUR OR LESS LOTS.
>> FOUR OR LESS LOTS THAT ARE FRONTING ON A PUBLIC SPACE.
FOUR OR LESS LOTS THAT ARE FRONTING OUT OF PUBLIC STREETS, SO THERE'S NO CREATION OF A NEW STREET.
THESE CAN ALSO BE HANDLED BY STAFF, AND IN MOST CASES ARE.
THE NUMBERS WERE LAST YEAR, WE DID 34 MINOR PLATS AND YOU ALL SAW MAYBE 10.
WHAT THE DISTINCTION IS, IF THEY HAVE TO BE HEARD, IT CAN BE HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN IT'S IN THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
IN OUR CASE, R-0 OR R-1, AND THEY'RE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF LOTS.
IF THEY'VE GOT A LARGE LOT, THEY WANT TO SUBDIVIDE IT INTO TWO, IT'S IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT, IT HAS TO COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OTHERWISE, IF IT'S NOT IN A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, STAFF CAN APPROVE THOSE.
THE STATE LAW CHANGED IN THE LAST SESSION TO ALLOW CITIES TO CHOOSE NOT TO HEAR THESE PLATS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE TO HEAR THEM.
WHEN YOU ARE HEARING THEM, WE SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
WE'VE MODIFIED OUR NOTIFICATION TO TAKE OUT THE ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR ARE YOU IN OPPOSITION.
IT'S JUST PURELY NOTIFICATION THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT YOU HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME, MAYBE LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE REQUEST AND TO VOICE YOUR OPINION.
STATE LAW ALLOWS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T HEAR THOSE.
BUT IN THOSE CASES, WE STILL HAVE TO DO A NOTIFICATION, AND THE NOTIFICATION TAKES PLACE AFTER THE PLAT IS APPROVED.
IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR THE PUBLIC IN BOTH SITUATIONS, BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING TO GET A NOTICE TO COME TO A MEETING AND THE OUTCOME, YOU REALLY CAN'T HAVE MUCH INPUT ON THE OUTCOME.
STAFF FINDS THAT IT'S EQUALLY FRUSTRATING TO BE NOTIFIED OF SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED AFTER THE FACT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY A BETTER SOLUTION.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO OBVIOUSLY GOOD OPTION HERE.
WHEN THE CHANGE CAME ABOUT IN 2019, PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME AND CITY COUNCIL AGREED TO KEEP OUR CURRENT PRACTICE SO THAT WE SEE THE MINOR PLATS AT PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE NOTIFICATION THEN BEFORE THE ACTION TAKES PLACE RATHER THAN THE NOTIFICATION AFTERWARDS, BUT THAT IS AN OPTION.
IF THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT, WE CERTAINLY CAN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
>> THE REASONING BEHIND IT, AS I RECALL IN 2019 WHEN WE TOOK THE VOTE, WAS WE FELT THAT WAS AT LEAST MORE TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC, TO GIVE THEM A FORUM RATHER THAN JUST DOING SOMETHING TO THEM AND [OVERLAPPING] NOTIFYING THEM AFTER THE FACT.
CATHERINE, IF THIS PARTICULAR PLANNING COMMISSION, THIS BODY, WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THAT AND GO THE OTHER ROUTE, COULD THAT HAPPEN AT THIS LEVEL OR WOULD CITY COUNCIL HAVE TO DIRECT US OTHERWISE?
>> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A DECISION OF CITY COUNCIL.
YOU, AS A BODY, CAN DIRECT STAFF TO INITIATE THE CHANGE, BUT IT WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY WOULD BE THE DECISION-MAKER.
WHEN YOU SAY IT'S A MINISTERIAL ACT, TO ME THAT MEANS THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY.
WHY DO WE VOTE ON A MINISTERIAL ACT?
>> THAT IS TRUE. THAT WAS AN OPTION THAT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED IN 2019, WAS THAT YOU COULD JUST HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING THE WAY THAT YOU DO FOR [OVERLAPPING] THE CASES THAT WE HAVE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING FOR THE DUNE MITIGATION.
YOU'RE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR QUESTIONS, BUT YOU DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN.
>> IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE VOTING ON A MINISTERIAL ACT SENDS A DIFFERENT KIND OF MESSAGE, THAT THERE IS SOME INDICATION [OVERLAPPING] THEY COULD GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I WOULD THINK THAT WE SHOULDN'T VOTE AT ALL.
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IN FACT, WE SHOULD MAKE EVEN MORE CLEAR THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY INFLUENCES TO THE OUTCOME.THE OUTCOME IS A PREDETERMINED THING, WE'RE JUST PROVIDING A FORUM FOR INPUT AND VOTING GOES AGAINST THAT.
>> KEEP IN MIND, [OVERLAPPING] WHEN WE DO THAT, WE'RE ALSO DENYING THOSE LAND OWNERS THEIR DUE PROCESS.
I MEAN, WE'RE PUTTING THAT OFF.
I HAVE HAD INSTANCES WHERE YOU GUYS VOTED AGAINST IT, AND THEN ODDLY ENOUGH, YOU HAD TO SIGN A PLAT THAT SAYS YOU VOTED FOR IT. [LAUGHTER].
>> YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY VOTE FOR IT AT ALL.
YOU GUYS HAVE STAYED. THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS DO. [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S A MINISTERIAL ACT, [OVERLAPPING] IRRELEVANT.
>> LET'S [OVERLAPPING] NOT GET INTO SPECIFICS PLEASE.
>> MY ONLY COMMENT IS THAT ONE, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT ON AS A DISCUSSION ON FIRST OF ALL, BUT IT IS MINISTERIAL AND IN MY OPINION, IT'S A WASTE OF RESOURCES AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S NOT LIKE US SEEING IT AND HEARING IT, AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVING A CHANCE TO VOTE ON IT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME REGARDLESS.
I'M OF THE OPINION, AND IT'S JUST MY OPINION, I'M JUST ONE PERSON, THAT WHEN WE DO THAT, IT'S TRANSPARENT TO THE [OVERLAPPING] PUBLIC, BUT THE POOR GUY WHO'S TRYING TO GET HIS PLAT DONE, HE'S DRAG IN HERE AND TIME IS MONEY IN THAT BUSINESS.
I GET BOTH SIDES OF IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US NOT BE VOTING ON.
I REMEMBER HISTORY A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU DO.
WE DID NOT DECIDE TO VOTE WHEN WE TOOK THIS UNDER CONSIDERATION IN 2019.
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WE DECIDED TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.
WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS MINISTERIAL AND THAT WE COULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T RECOLLECT EVER CHOOSING TO VOTE BECAUSE IT WAS REDUNDANT.
ALSO, IT DOES GIVE THE PUBLIC THE WRONG IMPRESSION THAT WE ACTUALLY INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME WHEN IN FACT WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE AT ALL.
>> BUT I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE REALLY DO LISTEN TO THOSE.
THEY LISTEN TO THOSE CASES AND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING THEM.
IF THERE'S ONE PERSON WHO'S INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT CASE, IT'S WORTH OUR WHILE.
I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT.
I KNOW THAT WE AGREED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE AGREED TO VOTE OR NOT.
>> AT THAT TIME, FRANKLY, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THAT WE COULD HAVE JUST HAD A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT VOTING ON IT.
[OVERLAPPING] MAY I FINISH PLEASE? MY QUESTION WOULD BE I ASK ABOUT HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING OR GIVING THEM THE NOTICE AFTERWARD, IF THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL.
WOULD IT HAVE TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL IF WE JUST WANTED TO CHANGE IT TO A PUBLIC HEARING?
>> I DON'T THINK SO. DONNA? I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WAS DECIDED.
I THINK IT WAS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S JUST A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THAT'S AN IDEA I COULD REALLY GET BEHIND [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE IT LETS THEM HAVE THEIR FORUM, BUT IT DOESN'T FORCE US TO VOTE.
BUT I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF WE COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE AT THIS LEVEL, DONNA.
>> LET'S JUST CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT A VOTE WAS REQUIRED OR NOT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] EXACTLY. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT COULD HAPPEN.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT SAME QUESTION.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S A SCARY, SCARY THING.
YOU'LL JUST LET US KNOW GOING FORWARD IN HOW WE HANDLE ON IT?
>> YEAH. I WILL CONFIRM THAT, DONNA, AND THEN I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WE'LL JUST SEE IF WE ARE ABLE TO, WE'LL JUST PUT IT ON AS A PUBLIC HEARING AND NO VOTING. [OVERLAPPING].
>> DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT AS A GROUP? WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE FORMAT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT WAS POSTED AS AN ACTION.
>> LET'S SEE. THE MOTION WOULD BE I MOVE THAT WE AMEND OUR PRACTICE FOR HANDLING RE-PLATS TO INCLUDE ONLY A PUBLIC HEARING,
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THEY WILL NOT REQUIRE A VOTE.>> TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING ONLY.
>> WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HOLLOWAY.
COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE A DISCUSSION?
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMPROMISE, AND ALSO, I'VE DONE THIS MORE THAN ONCE.
EVEN CHANGING THE NOTICES WHERE I'M OPPOSED OR I'M NOT OPPOSED BECAUSE THOSE THINGS [OVERLAPPING] WE SHOW UP READY TO TAKE ON A FIGHT AND I COMMEND YOU. THANK YOU.
>> I WONDER IF THESE NOTICES THAT GO OUT, WE SHOULD CLARIFY THAT THIS IS A MINISTERIAL ACT AND BY ORDINANCE THAT IT HAS TO BE APPROVED.
>>THEY DO, [OVERLAPPING] AND THEY SAY IT IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING.
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THERE'S NOT A VOTE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS MANAGING EXPECTATIONS, CLEARLY.
>> WE'LL REVIEW THE NOTIFICATION TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE.
>> THANK YOU CATHERINE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? THEN WE'LL HAVE THE VOTE, PLEASE, PATRICK.
>> ON FAVOR, THE MOTION PASSES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] CAROL'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO HAVE A MARTINI.
>> ALL RIGHT. ON 9C, COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI.
[9.C. Review Of Beach Maintenance Permits (Antonelli/Hill)]
AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE REGULATING OF NUMBER OF MECHANICAL RANKINGS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON HERE, ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS WAS I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME NORMALNESS OR REGULARITY ON THESE THINGS [OVERLAPPING] SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY WANT TO VARIANCE ON A SIDEWALK BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS DONE IT THAT WAY, ETC.
WE CONTINUE TO GET THESE THINGS THAT IT'S LIKE EVERYONE'S SO DIFFERENT AND WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME STANDARD TO GO BY BECAUSE IT'S NICE TO HAVE STANDARDS.
I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, WHO SETS THE STANDARD AND ON MECHANICAL RANKINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
FOR SOME REASON, I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS THE GLO, BUT IT'S NOT.
IT'S US. IT'S THE CITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN THAT REALLY I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, EVERYTHING'S DIFFERENT.
SOME BEACHES ARE BIGGER, SOME ARE SMALLER.
BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THIS, IN THAT LAST CASE, THE GLO OKAY-ED UP TO 26 OR 25 RANKINGS THAN THEY HAD LAST YEAR.
WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES TO SAY, NOW THAT NUMBER HAS TO BE 15 BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD WITH 15 AS THE GOOD NUMBER.
BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, WHAT IF THESE PEOPLE DECIDE TO SAY, WELL, THE GLO SAID THIS, WE DID IT LAST YEAR AND WE'RE GOING TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIABILITY OF THE CITY AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS DONNA.
ARE WE GETTING OURSELVES IN A SITUATION TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO START REGULATING AND SETTING STANDARDS THAT MIGHT COST US AND THE CITY MONEY?
>> I THINK THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT IS THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS AND WHAT THE VOTE IS.
I THINK THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS BY THIS BOARD, THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACTORS OF THE CASE THAT'S BROUGHT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU ARE MAKING THE MOTION.
IF THE RECORD THAT WE CALL IT IS CLEAR AS TO THE REASONS WHY THE MOTION IS BEING MADE, THEN WE HAVE NOT DONE SOMETHING THAT'S CAPRICIOUS, OR ARBITRARY, OR UNREASONABLE IN LIGHT OF THIS BOARD'S REVIEW.
WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO CONTINUE DOING IS LOOKING
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AT THESE CASES ON AN INDIVIDUAL FACTOR BECAUSE EACH BEACH IS DIFFERENT IN MANY RESPECTS.THEN DOING THAT THOUGHTFUL REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T SEEN AS DOING SOMETHING THAT'S ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS.
THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER TO THAT REALLY IS THE AMOUNT AND THE KIND OF REVIEW THAT THE BOARD DOES ON AN INDIVIDUAL CASE.
>> JUST ONE SECOND, CAROL, IF YOU ALL WILL NOTICE TODAY THAT WE HANDLED OUR BEACHFRONT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT FOR BEACH MAINTENANCE SEPARATELY, THAT WE'RE NOT PLACED ON A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM TODAY, AND EVEN THOUGH THESE THEY WERE EXTREME INUNDATION AND THROUGH THE PART BOARD, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE HANDLED IN OTHER CASES, THEY WERE STILL HANDLED SEPARATELY.
I WOULD SAY WITH WHAT DONNA HAS JUST SAID, THAT MAYBE WE CONTINUE TO SEE THESE SEPARATELY AND NOT ON A CONSENT AGENDA SO THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT WE HAVE CONSIDERED EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND WITH THEIR OWN MERITS. [OVERLAPPING].
>> NOW, COMMISSIONER HOLLOWAY.
>> THIS BODY MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL SOME TIME AGO REGARDING BEACH MAINTENANCE STANDARDIZATION AND WE VOTED AS A GROUP, MAYBE SOME OF YOU WERE NOT ON THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, BUT WE SENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ACTION.
THAT'S MY CONCERN IS WE ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE BEACH MAINTENANCE BEST PRACTICES AND THAT INCORPORATES WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TO BE CAPRICIOUS OR RANDOM DECISIONS.
BUT IN ABSENCE OF CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE A CONSISTENT APPLICATION OF BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE BOARD? I WAS TOLD BY MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, BUT THEY DID NOT WANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN ACCRETING BEACHES AND ERODING BEACHES.
THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TOO POLITICAL.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM CITY COUNCIL AS A BODY, WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO US IS.
SO THAT MAY BE SOME DAY WE CAN HAVE A UNIFORM APPLICATION AND DO THIS BY CONSENT.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY WOULD BE TREATED THE SAME WAY AS CITY COUNCIL DIRECTS.
WE HAVE NEVER HEARD BACK AND IT'S BEEN SURELY OVER A YEAR THAT WE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> WELL, I KNOW THAT WE HAD TALKED A FEW MEETINGS AGO ABOUT IT BEING A GOAL TO GET THESE BEACH MAINTENANCE STANDARDIZED PRACTICES WORKED OUT HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR WHENEVER WE ARE FULLY STAFFED UP.
>> THAT CONTINUES TO BE A GOAL AND FROM THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE STARTING ON REVIEWING THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN.
BECAUSE THAT WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THESE RULES ARE PUT INTO THE CODE.
>> WELL, WHEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE COUNCIL, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ONE TIME, BUT IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO AND WHO KNOWS WHERE THAT INFORMATION IS? WE HAVE A 400-PAGE AD HOC COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL THAT'S GATHERING DUST SOMEWHERE.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET CITY COUNCIL TO ACT?
>> THIS BOARD HAS AN EX-OFFICIO.
>> YEAH, THERE HE IS? [OVERLAPPING]
>> OH, YEAH, HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS TOO. DIDN'T YOU?
>> OUR EX-OFFICIO MAY BE ABLE TO SHED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT ON THE CONCERNS OR THE ISSUES THAT HAD BEEN RAISED.
COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT AND THEN I WOULDN'T LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING FURTHER.
>> HELLO, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME?
>> YEAH, THERE YOU. WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
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>> LET ME START WITH THE BEACH MAINTENANCE.
AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, I DEFINITELY HAVE HAD A PHONE CALL FROM SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THE LAST FEW MEETING ON BEACH MAINTENANCE.
WE DEFINITELY NEED TO AND OF COURSE, WE'LL TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM DONNA ON THIS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE BACKED UP BY SOMETHING.
WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE-
>> COUNCILMAN YOU'RE FROZEN AGAIN.
JIGGLE THAT INTERNET CONNECTION.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU LOST ME THERE, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CALLS AND PEOPLE ARE THROWING AROUND THE LAWSUIT WORD ABOUT SOME OF THE DIGITS THAT WERE BEING MADE.
WE JUST NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BACKING THINGS UP.
COUNCIL CAN GIVE Y'ALL GUIDANCE ON THE BEACH MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
THAT'D BE GREAT. YOU'LL HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, CATHERINE IF WE ACTUALLY SAW SOMETHING THAT GOT PUT IN FRONT OF US REGARDING BEACH MAINTENANCE.
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WE ACTUALLY SAW-
>> I'LL HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY TO MR. LISTOWSKI.
>> I THINK IT WAS AT LEAST OF DISCUSSION ITEM AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
>> OR THE WEBSITE IS STILL [INAUDIBLE]
>> INCLUSION OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS?
>> OH, HANG ON. WE GOT HIM AGAIN.
>> LET ME TALK ABOUT BEACH ACCESS.
IN OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING OR WORKSHOP, BEACH ACCESS GOT BROUGHT UP AND I WAS A BIT SURPRISED WHEN THIS ISSUE GOT BROUGHT UP AND OUR DISCUSSION WENT TO [LAUGHTER]
>> HE'S JUST TRYING TO KEEP US INTERESTED.
>> COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI, CAN YOU JUST CALL IN.
THAT MAY BE BETTER [OVERLAPPING].
>> OR MAYBE TURN YOUR CAMERA OFF.
>> YEAH, JUST TURN YOUR CAMERA OFF AND JUST LET US LISTEN TO YOU.
>> I DON'T IF I CAN DO IT ON THIS END.
[LAUGHTER] STOP VIDEO. WE'LL TRY THAT.
>> OKAY. JOHN, CAN YOU HEAR US?
>> [OVERLAPPING] YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
>> AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I LOST YOU BUT ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEACH ACCESS, AND IT GOT BROUGHT UP THAT WE NEED TO FORM ANOTHER COMMITTEE AND [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN.
I WAS VERY SURPRISED WHEN I HEARD THIS.
ON A STAFF LEVEL, ON A COUNCIL LEVEL, WE NEED TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE.
EITHER HAVE THE BEACH ACCESS PLAN THAT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND DISCUSSED FOR OVER A YEAR THROUGHOUT THE COUNCIL AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT PLAN, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE THAT IS [INAUDIBLE] ISSUES, THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE FEW ISSUES HOPEFULLY.
I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN THAT LAST MEETING WHEN THAT GOT BROUGHT UP, AND NO ONE REALLY SEEMED TO KNOW THAT WE HAD THIS COMMITTEE WORKING VERY HARD FOR A LONG AMOUNT OF TIME AND THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> DID YOU TELL HIM THAT, JOHN PAUL? DID YOU TELL HIM THAT THERE'S A WHOLE 400 PAGE AD HOC COMMITTEE REPORT? HELLO? OKAY. LET'S THINK HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
>> THERE'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEM AT CITY COUNCIL ON THURSDAY.
WE CAN PUT IT AGAIN AS A COUNCIL DISCUSSION ITEM ON OUR AGENDA ON THE 20TH, AND HOPEFULLY WE'D HAVE GOTTEN MORE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AT THAT POINT.
>> OKAY. WITH IT BEING A DISCUSSION ITEM AT COUNCIL, I WOULD SURE HOPE THAT EVERYBODY LETS THEM KNOW THAT THERE IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE,
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AS JOHN PAUL SAID, WELL-THOUGHT OUT, GINORMOUS DOCUMENT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACK AND RE-INVENT THE WHEEL.>> ABSOLUTELY. UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER TIM NOR I WERE AVAILABLE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETINGS SO THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
BUT WE'LL BOTH [OVERLAPPING] BE THERE FOR THE NEXT ONE.
>> COULD I JUST REFRESH PEOPLE'S MEMORIES OR INFORM QUICKLY THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS CREATED BY CITY COUNCIL TO REPORT TO PLANNING COMMISSION? THERE WERE TWO MEMBERS OF PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SAT ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
OTHER PEOPLE WERE NAMED BY CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
THE PROCESS WAS VERY LONG AND DRAWN OUT, BUT IT WAS OVER A YEAR, MAYBE A YEAR, SIX MONTHS.
THEN THERE IS THE REPORT OUT THERE.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S OUT THERE SERVING UNDER THAT.
>> IT'S ON THE [OVERLAPPING] WEBSITE.
>> BEACH IN DOING AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THERE'S THE GINORMOUS REPORT, BUT THREE THINGS CAME OUT OF THAT.
THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR BEACH ACCESS, THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DOING PROTECTION, AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BEACH MAINTENANCE.
THERE WERE THREE ACTION ITEMS THAT CAME OUT THAT WERE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, WHEN WE PRESENTED THE REPORT TO COUNCIL MEETING.
>> WHICH HAS BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.
NOW, BECAUSE IT WAS A REPORT THAT CAME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION, PLANNING COMMISSION HAD TO ACCEPT IT AND TO VOTE TO ACCEPT IT, AND WE DID.
WE SENT THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL OR MADE SOME FORMAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THAT, AS FAR AS I CAN RECOLLECT.
>> WHAT WAS THE END PLAN FOR THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? HOW WERE THEY CODED BY?
>> THEY WERE TO BE ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL OR CITY COUNCIL WAS TO ACT ON THEM, AND THEN TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
>> OKAY. FOR THEM TO HAVE SOME IMPACT, WERE THEY TO BE INCORPORATED IN SOME CITY COORDINATES OR SOME CITY CODE?
>> INTO THE BEACH ACCESS AND THE PROTECTION PLAN FOR THE CITY.
THE REPORT AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] AN AMENDMENT TO REVIEW ALONE, REVIEW ALONE ONLY ALLOWS ONE AMENDMENT IS PUCKERING BOND.
WHEN [INAUDIBLE] REPORT, THEY REALLY COULDN'T ADOPT IT OFFICIALLY, OR AMEND IT AS WE GOT THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT PROCESS OR BE COMBINED WHICH WAS STILL ANOTHER ELEMENT OF WHAT WE WERE WORKING THROUGH AT THE TIME.
WE COMBINED ELEMENT AS REASONABLY BEEN, [INAUDIBLE] AND SO WE ARE TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO MEETING SOME AMENDMENTS.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT THERE [INAUDIBLE] SOME DEGREE IN THE BAG THAT WE WON'T REST WHEN YOU BIND THE HUE AND COULDN'T ACT ON ANY CAR OCCUPATION OR PEOPLE ADOPTING THE VENUE, THE RECOMMENDATION.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT SOMEONE RECEIVED THAT REPORT.
I THINK THAT WAS AUGUST OF 19, I'M I RIGHT?
>> BUT LET'S LOOK AT THREE THERE.
>> I GUESS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE TERM YOU USE BEST PRACTICES.
IF WE HAD SOME BEST PRACTICES AS A GUIDE, THEN THAT WOULD HELP US LOOK AT EACH CASE INDIVIDUALLY TO DETERMINE, FIRST OF ALL, IF THEY FALL WITHIN THAT, BUT EACH ONE IS NOT BOUND AND TIED TO THAT.
>> I AGREE AND THAT WOULD ALL BE SET OUT IN THE BEST PRACTICES.
>> THOSE ARE GENERAL PRACTICES.
THEY'RE NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE [INAUDIBLE].
THEY DO AIM TO PRODUCE CERTAIN OUTCOMES, ONE OF WHICH IS PRESERVING SAND.
SAND PRESERVATION WAS THE, I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THE BEACH MAINTENANCE BEST PRACTICES BASICALLY BECAUSE WE'RE IN ERODING ISLAND.
NOW SOME AREAS OF THE ISLAND ARE NOT ERODING, THEY'RE ACCRETING LIKE ON THE EAST END.
I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON SOMEONE, NOT US, TO DECIDE WHETHER WE HAVE BEST PRACTICES FOR ACCRETING BEACHES VERSUS BEST PRACTICES FOR ERODING BEACHES.
THAT TO ME IS SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE.
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THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT GETS ELECTED.>> IT IS POLITICAL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> BECAUSE THE ERODING VERSUS ACCRETING IS A MOVING TARGET.
YOU COULD BE AN ACCRETING BEACH ONE YEAR AND ERODING BEACH THE NEXT YEAR, AND IT'S ALWAYS AN AVERAGE.
>> I MEAN, I'M GOING TO TAKE POINT WITH YOU ON THAT.
IF YOU RELY ON THE STATE'S STANDARD AGENCY FOR RECORDING SHORELINE CHANGE, WHICH IS THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC GEOLOGY.
THEY'RE THE ONES WHO GET TO SAY WHETHER YOU HAVE AN ACCRETING BEACH OR AN ERODING BEACH, AND IT'S BASED ON LONG-TERM DATA COLLECTION.
>> THEN IT WOULDN'T BE ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT, BUT IT COULD CHANGE.
>> EXACTLY. PERSONALLY, I'M NOT FOR MAKING A DISTINCTION BETWEEN ERODING AND ACCRETING.
>> BUT I'M NOT ON CITY COUNCIL, SO WE'LL LET THEM DECIDE THAT.
>> ANYWAY, SO I THINK THAT WE WOULD GET MORE DIRECTION ON THIS IN JULY.
WHAT WE CAN DO AS A BODY GOING FORWARD IS HEAR EVERY BEACH ROCK CONSTRUCTION PERMIT FOR BEACH MAINTENANCE SEPARATELY AND NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> THAT'LL BE OUR PRACTICE MOVING FORWARD.
BUT I DO BELIEVE WE'VE HEARD ALL OF THE BEACH MAINTENANCE CASES FOR THE YEAR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WONDERFUL. OH, SORRY DONNA.
THE EYES AT THE BACK OF MY HEAD, NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU'RE LOOKING.
>> THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT I ALSO WAS READING THAT AGENDA ITEM AS A REVIEW OF THE BEACH MAINTENANCE PERMITS, AND I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON RECONSIDERATION OF CASES THAT ARE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS AND INVITED THAT CASE.
[NOISE] WHETHER OR NOT ANY OF THE CASES COULD BE RECONSIDERED, AND I JUST WANTED TO LET FOR THIS BOARD TO KNOW THAT RECONSIDERATION CAN BE REQUESTED BY A MEMBER OF A PREVAILING SIDE OF A VOTE OF THE BOARD, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST A RECONSIDERATION, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A VOTE OF THE BOARD WHETHER OR NOT TO RECONSIDER IT.
IF THE VOTE IS TO RECONSIDER, THE CRITERIA FOR RECONSIDERING A CASE WOULD BE THAT THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL PROCEDURAL ERROR IN THE ORIGINAL PROCEEDING, THE BOARD AND COMMISSION ACTED WITHOUT JURISDICTION IN THE ORIGINAL [NOISE] PROCEEDING AND SUCH JURISDICTIONAL DEFECT HAS SINCE BEEN REMEDIED OR THE ORIGINAL DECISION WAS BASED ON MISUNDERSTANDING FOR A MISREPRESENTATION.
I JUST HEARD THAT OR MAYBE INTERPRETED THAT AGENDA ITEM IN THAT WAY AS WELL IF FOLKS WANTED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REVIEW OR RECONSIDER CASES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD WHEN RECONSIDERATIONS USUALLY HAPPEN PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER THE HEARING OF THE ORIGINAL CASE, THAT WAS IT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I MEAN, I'M NOT A BEACH CLEANING EXPERT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY HERE IS.
CERTAINLY THERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS.
SO IF I'M MAKING A DECISION ON HOW MANY TIMES TO CLEAN THE BEACH, HOW CAN MY DECISION NOT BE ARBITRARY?
>> IN OUR MEETING, WE WON'T GO INTO THIS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT ARE OTHERS [INAUDIBLE] LET'S JUST SAY ROUGHLY [INAUDIBLE] ANY IDEA [INAUDIBLE] WOULD THAT BEACH BE?
>> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
>> WE'RE THE ONLY CITY THAT HAS BEACH MAINTENANCE.
THE OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT CLEAN OR MAINTAIN THE BEACH.
CITY OF GALVESTON IS THE ONLY CITY.
>> WITH THAT SAID VIRGIE, I'LL CONTINUE A LITTLE BIT HOPEFULLY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER WALLA'S COMMENT, YOU'RE NOT A COMMISSIONER BY HERSELF.
THAT'S WHY THIS BODY IS MADE UP OF SUCH IMPORTANT FOLKS THAT EXPERTISE, HAVE LIVED ON THE ISLAND AND HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON SOME OF THESE BEACHES.
I JUST HEARD, [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] THE WHOLE VISITATION,
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SHE'S GOT A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE AS WELL AS YOUR CHAIRWOMAN.I SAY THAT TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE WITHIN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WITHIN YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WITHIN YOUR LOOKING AT THE BEACH, LOOKING AT WHEN THE SEAWEED GETS THERE, WHEN THE BEACH JUST DIRTY.
YOU CAN CLEARLY JUST IN YOUR EVERYDAY LIVES KNOW, OKAY, WE NEED TO EITHER DO SOMETHING OR NOT DO SOMETHING.
BUT ALSO WHEN A CASE IS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT, YOU'RE GIVEN KNOWLEDGE BY THE APPLICANT AND YOU'VE GIVEN KNOWLEDGE FROM CITY STAFF AS WELL.
YOU'RE NOT GOING INTO THESE CASES OR HEARING THESE CASES BLINDLY.
>> WELL, IT MAY NOT BE YOUR EVERYDAY JOB, WHICH IT'S NOT FOR ALL OF US, BUT WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF THESE AND WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THEM AND RECEIVED A LOT OF TESTIMONY, I THINK THIS IS WHAT DONNA IS SAYING.
>> WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE, WHAT MADE US DECIDE THAT GALVESTON ITSELF WOULD START TO CLEAN THESE BEACHES? WE LET PRIVATE ENTITIES CLEAN THE BEACHES.
I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE.
>> I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE HAVE A PARK.
>> WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO LEAVE THE SEAWEED ON THE BEACHES BECAUSE IT HELPED TO RETAIN THE SAND ON THE BEACHES.
THEN WE HEAR THIS AND NOW, I DON'T KNOW.
>> VIRGIE, DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT? VOICE IN A BOX.
[LAUGHTER] WHAT'S THE QUESTION, I'M SORRY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WE INITIALLY START USING THIRD PARTIES TO CLEAN THE BEACHES.
WHY DO WE CLEAN THE BEACHES AT ALL CONSIDERING I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO SAVE THEM? [OVERLAPPING]
I'M NOT SURE THE DATE THAT THE BEACH MADE ITS APPLICATION CAME FORWARD, SOMETHING I HAVE TO RESEARCH.
BUT YES, THE PURPOSE OF THE SEAWEED IS TO HELP BUILD BEACHES.
THAT'S NATURE'S NATURAL WAY OF BUILDING UP BEACHES ON BARRIER ISLANDS OR ANY ISLAND FOR THAT MATTER.
ANYTIME YOU REMOVE SEAWEED, YOU'RE REMOVING NATURE'S WAY OF NATURALLY BUILDING UP A BEACH.
>> I WOULD JUST VENTURE TO GUESS, IT'S TRYING TO BALANCE BETWEEN THE ISLAND BIG TOURIST CITY AND PEOPLE AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME DOWN TO NICE BEAUTIFUL BEACHES.
ALSO, TRYING TO HELP MAINTAIN AND KEEP OUR BEACHES THERE BY ALLOWING NATURE TO TAKE ITS COURSE.
I THINK A LOT OF THESE REGULATIONS ARE AN ATTEMPT TO BALANCE BOTH OF THOSE.
>> PART OF THAT BALANCING IS TO NOT REMOVE THE SEAWEED, BUT TO RELOCATE IT A LITTLE FURTHER INLAND AND TO LOOK AT THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> I FIND THAT INTERESTING BECAUSE I WAS I FLORIDA LAST YEAR AND I THOUGHT [INAUDIBLE] HAD SEAWEED LIKE THAT.
BUT I WAS IN FLORIDA, BEAUTIFUL BEACH, BEAUTIFUL PLACE, LOOKING AT IT, SEAWEED ALL OVER THE BEACH.
THEY WERE NOT THERE DRAGGING IT OFF THE BEACH.
PEOPLE WERE JUST HAVING AS MUCH FUN WITH SEAWEED ON THE BEACH AS THEY WERE WITHOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT, AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT COUNCIL TASKS US WITH.
IT WILL DEFINITELY BE A WORKSHOP ITEM AFTER THAT.
>> FOR SURE. WE'LL PUT IT ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, SO WE'LL GET THE UPDATE ON THE REPORT FROM THE COUNCIL MEETING THIS WEEK ON THE NEXT MEETING, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS OUR NEXT STEPS AFTER THAT.
YOU'RE GOOD? [INAUDIBLE] AGENDA ITEM.
>> I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL ON EVERY MEETING.
>> [LAUGHTER] I'M GOING TO PASS ON THAT ONE, SO 9D.
[9.D. Presentation From The Directed Studies Program At Texas A&M Regarding Beach Access (Staff)]
>> PRESENTATION FROM THE DIRECTOR OF STUDIES PROGRAM AT TEXAS A&M REGARDING BEACH ACCESS.
WE'VE HAD A VERY FRUITFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH TEXAS A&M THIS SEMESTER WITH A DIRECTED STUDIES GROUP.
I'M GOING TO LET VIRGIE GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO HEATHER MCLEAN WHO'S GOING TO GIVE HER PRESENTATION.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT HEATHER'S PRESENTATION.
THIS SPRING AS CATHERINE STATED WE PARTNERED WITH TEXAS A&M, GALVESTON GRADUATE STUDENTS IN MARINE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.
THEY SPLIT INTO TWO GROUPS TO LOOK AT DUNE PROTECTION AND BEACH ACCESS.
WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE STUDENTS' ABILITY
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TO COMMUNICATE TECHNICAL INFORMATION REGARDING POSSIBLE ISSUES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC BY CREATING INFORMATIONAL FLYERS AND A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF 42 BEACH ACCESS POINTS ON THE ISLAND.WE HAD THE DUNE PROTECTION GROUP CREATE FLYERS BOARD FOR STUDENTS AND ADULTS FOR ALL AUDIENCES, THAT WILL BE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, AND OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION TEAM HAS CREATED A VIDEO, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THAT PRESS RELEASE SOON.
WE HAD ANOTHER GROUP THAT WORKED ON BEACH ACCESS AND HEATHER WAS PART OF THAT GROUP.
THE BEACH ACCESS GROUP WAS ABLE TO MAP ALL THE 42 PLUS ACCESS POINT ON GOOGLE MAPS, SO WHEN YOU GOOGLE BEACHES IN GALVESTON, YOU NOT ONLY SEE STEWART BEACH, BUT NOW YOU SEE ALL THE [NOISE] ACCESS POINTS AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST END.
THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS EFFORT, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THAT FROM [INAUDIBLE] STUDENTS'' PERSPECTIVE.
HEATHER WORKED ON AN ASSESSMENT PLAN FOR THE BEACH ACCESS POINTS ON THE ISLAND, IN [NOISE] PARTICULAR FOCUSING ON ADA ACCESS.
SHE IS GOING TO PRESENT HER PORTION OF THE CLASS.
WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT HEATHER'S WORK.
I'M OVER THE MOON ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
WE PLAN TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH TEXAS A&M EACH SEMESTER TO CONTINUE ASSESSING OUR BEACH ACCESS POINTS, WORKING ON DUNE PROTECTION INFORMATION AND LOOKING AT OUR DUNE AREAS AND IDENTIFYING THEIR GROWTH OR LACK THEREOF ON AREAS ON THE ISLAND.
THIS WAS LED BY DR. ASHLEY ROSS AT TEXAS A&M.
SHE'S ALSO THE GRADUATE CHAIR FOR MY PROGRAM.
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE HEATHER, AND SHE WILL YOU A SYNOPSIS OF HER WORK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
>> I'LL GO UP AND PULL YOUR POWERPOINT, HEATHER.
>> THANKS FOR BEING HERE WITH US, HEATHER.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, I'M SUPER EXCITED. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'LL JUST SAY THAT WE INVITED ALL STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, BUT THE SEMESTER'S OVER AND THEY'VE GONE ON TO DO OTHER THINGS FOR THE SUMMER.
HEATHER WAS THE ONE THAT WAS AVAILABLE AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT SHE'S ABLE TO SHARE HER INFORMATION WITH US.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE SCREEN.
YOU JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO ADVANCE THE SLIDES.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY JUST TO THANK THE COMMISSION AND VIRGIE FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY.
LIKE WE JUST DISCUSSED, MY PRESENTATION TODAY WILL BE REGARDING BEACH ACCESS POINTS, AND SPECIFICALLY THEIR ADA OR HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WHY IS THIS PROJECT AND BEACH ACCESSIBILITY IMPORTANT IN GENERAL? I'M SURE WE'VE ALL SEEN POSTS LIKE SOMEONE DISPLAYED HERE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
THIS ONE IS JUST SIMPLY ASKING FOR THE LOCATION OF A BEACH FOR THIS PERSON TO VISIT THAT HAS AVAILABLE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBILITY.
I'VE NOTICED THE INCREASING NUMBER OF POSTS SUCH AS THIS ONE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WITH THE HEAVY INFLUX OF VISITORS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED HERE ON THE ISLAND.
THE FIRST TO INVESTIGATE THE HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR BEACH ACCESS POINT AND THEN RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO THE COASTAL RESOURCES DIVISION AS WELL AS THE GLO.
SECONDLY, TO BRING FURTHER AWARENESS OF THE COMPLIANT ACCESS POINT TO THE PUBLIC. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
BUT THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BRIEF RUNDOWN OF MY WORKFLOW.
I USE THE GLOS TEXAS BEACH ACCESSIBILITY GUIDE FOR MY BASIC GUIDELINE.
I TOOK PHOTOS OF EACH ONE OF THE BEACH ACCESS POINTS BEGINNING FROM THE MAIN ROAD, MOSTLY 3005.
I LOOKED FOR ACCESSIBILITY SIGNAGE ON THE ROAD AT 3005 AND AT THE SEAWALL.
I LOOKED TO SEE IS THE ACCESSIBLE POINT IS IT BEACH OR OFF BEACH PARKING.
THEN I ALSO LOOKED AT SEVERAL TAS COMPLIANT ASPECT.
THOSE INCLUDED ACCESS FROM THE PARKING AREA, A DESIGNATED ONE PERCENT TAF PARKING SPACE, A ONE-AND-EIGHTH DESIGNATION AS A VAN ACCESSIBLE PARKING PLACE.
SIGNAGE AT THE DESIGNATED PARKING AREA, SIGNAGE AND THE BARRIERS BETWEEN PARKING AND PEDESTRIAN ONLY AREA.
DOES THE AREA HAVE A STABLE BASE, A STABLE AISLE, AND THEN A STABLE ROUTE TO THE BEACH.
I ALSO RECORDED COORDINATE AND UNIQUE FEATURES IF THERE WERE ANY.
THEN I COMPILED AND RECORDED MY RECOMMENDATION AND I
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FORMATTED AN EXCEL WITH THE DATA AND A REPORT WITH THE PHOTOS AND THE DATA.NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE REPORT ITSELF.
AT THE TOP YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A TABLE AND IT HAS ALL OF THE TAF COMPLIANCE ASPECTS THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
THEN YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME PHOTOS JUST GIVING YOU A DETAILED LOOK AT WHAT THE AREA LOOKS LIKE ITSELF, WHAT THE WALK OVER LOOKS LIKE, AND THERE'S PHOTOS OF ANYTHING I THOUGHT MAYBE WE NEED TO WORK ON.
THEN AT THE BOTTOM AND THE LITTLE BOX YOU'LL SEE I ALSO INCLUDED MY RECOMMENDATION THAT I MIGHT HAVE FOR THAT SPECIFIC ACTION POINT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SOME OF MY KEY FINDINGS WERE THAT MOST OF THE ACCESS POINTS HAVE ACCESSIBILITY SIGNS ON THE MAIN ROAD 3005 OR SEAWALL BOULEVARD.
THOSE ACCESS POINTS THAT DO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY SIGNAGE ON THE ROAD HAVE AT A MINIMUM OF ONE PERCENT TAF DESIGNATED PARKING OR LIKE THE ONES ON THE BEACH, THEY HAVE THE GOLF CART ACCESSIBILITY SIGNS.
SO BOTH ON AND OFF BEACH BEACH PARKING AREAS RARELY HAVE THE REQUIRED VAN ACCESSIBLE SIGNAGE AND THE PARKING AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE PARKING SIGNAGE TYPICALLY ONLY HAVE ACCESSIBILITY SIGNAGE AT THE PATH OR AT THE WALK OVER.
SO INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY HAVING A DESIGNATED SPOT FOR HEY, HERE'S YOUR PARKING THE SIGN INSTEAD IS PLACED ON THE WALK OVER ITSELF.
ACCESS IS AVAILABLE TO THE BEACH FROM THE PARKING AREAS AT EACH ACCESS POINT.
MOST OF THE PATHS AND WALK OVERS THAT HAD ACCESSIBILITY SIGNAGE APPEARED TO BE 50 PERCENT TAF COMPLIANT.
NOW, I DIDN'T GO AND ACTUALLY MEASURE THINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I JUST GAVE IT A GLANCE AND MADE MY JUDGMENT FROM THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THESE ARE TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT I LIKE TO CALL EXCELLENT ACCESS.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD STRIVE TO REPLICATE.
THE FIRST ONE IS NUMBER 1B, THAT IS ON THE FAR EAST SIDE.
IT HAS A REALLY NICE PARKING AREA WITH ALL OF THE PROPER SIGNAGE.
I PARTICULARLY LIKE YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE BLACK LOOKING AREA IN THE PHOTO, THAT IT IS A PERMEABLE TAS PARKING SPACE, WHICH ALSO ADDS TO THE FLOOD RESILIENCY OF THIS.
INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING A CONCRETE SLAB, IT HAD A VERY 30 PATH TO THE WALK OVER, A RANT THAT WAS WELL BUILD AND LED TO THE WALK OVER ITSELF WITH GREAT [INAUDIBLE].
A LITTLE AREA UNDERNEATH IT WHERE YOU CAN, IT'S GOT [INAUDIBLE] AND YOU CAN PUT YOUR BEACH GEAR AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF IN IT.
BUT IT WAS, HOWEVER, A LONG WALK FOR MOST PEOPLE FROM THE PARKING AREA TO THE BEACH ITSELF.
ACCESS NUMBER 39 WAS ALSO ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS FANTASTIC.
IT ALSO HAS A REALLY NICE PARKING AREA WITH ALL OF THE PROPER SIGNAGE, A STURDY PARKING SPACE, AND A STURDY AISLE, AND THE WALK OVER ITSELF IS IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THOUGH THERE WERE SOME AREAS THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING TO ME WHENEVER I WAS LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS, THE SIGNS ALONG 3005 IN WHICH THIS MAY HAVE CHANGED BY NOW, I KNOW WE'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING ON THINGS, THEY JUMP FROM 32 TO 29, LEAVING OUT ACCESS POINT NUMBER 30 AND NUMBER 31.
POINTS THAT HAVE THE ROADS SIGNAGE NUMBERED AS THE ACCESS POINT NUMBER 28 IN THE SEA ISLE AND KAHALA AREAS.
SEVERAL OF THE ENDS OF THE PATHWAYS ARE WALK OVERS.
VILLAGE AND KAHALA BEACH AND THE PHOTO IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
TO BE CLOSE, BUT THEY'RE STILL SIGNAGE ON 3005 FOR THAT POCKET PARK.
THE ACCESS POINTS AT PALM BEACH ON A VISTA AND SURF ARE BEING USED TO DRIVE ONTO THE BEACH.
THE BARRIER AT THE END IS REALLY NONEXISTENT.
WE NEED TO CREATE MORE OF A BARRIER.
I NOTICED WHILE I WAS OUT THERE TAKING PHOTOS THAT THEY WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST DRIVING STRAIGHT ONTO THE BEACH FROM THOSE AREAS AND THOSE ARE NOT DRIVE ON ACCESS POINTS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL LOCATION THAT HAD PRIVATE PROPERTY SIGN JUST WAITING ACCESS POINT USAGE.
TYPICALLY IN SEA ISLE AND KAHALA BEACH ESTATE.
TREE AND CROSSING GOING ACROSS 3005 AT THE INFO DEL
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FORE BASELINE PARKING AND THAT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE WATER TOWER.IT WOULD BE A GOOD MEASURE TO HAVE MAYBE EVEN THE ROAD PAINTED SO THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE, HEY, YOU MAY HAVE PEDESTRIANS CROSSING HERE, SLOWDOWN, WATCH OUT.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO SOME OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS OVERALL WERE TO CLEAR THE PATHWAY AND WALK OVERS OF OVERGROWN VEGETATION AND SAND ACCUMULATION LIKE SEEN IN THE PHOTO.
INSTALL PROPER PARKING SIGNAGE AT VARIOUS ACCESS POINTS.
INSTALL ACCESSIBILITY SIGNAGE AT THE MAJORITY OF THE ACCESS POINT.
ADD ACCESSIBILITY SIGNAGE AT 3005 AND SEAWALL FOR THOSE ACCESS POINTS THAT ARE TRULY APS ACCESSIBLE, ADD IN MORE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE PORTA POTTIES ON THE BEACH PARKING ACCESS POINTS ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTH.
THERE WERE, I THINK TWO OR THREE THAT [NOISE] ALREADY HAD THE PORTA POTTIES OUT WHENEVER I WAS DOING THIS IN MAY. THAT WAS REALLY GREAT.
THEY HAD BOTH IRREGULAR PORTA POTTY AND THEN A HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE PORTA POTTY AS WELL.
CORRECT THE MIS-NUMBERED ROAD SIGNS THAT HAVE THAT NUMBER 28.
REPAIR WALK OVERS AND PATHS THAT ARE ERODED, THEN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE SUBDIVISIONS ON IMPROVING THE VISIBILITY OF ACCESS, ESPECIALLY IN THE DUNES OF WEST BEACH AND SANDHILL SHORES.
I WAS INFORMED BY THE GLO THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK ON CURRENTLY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN CONTACT OR VISIT THE GALVESTONX WEBSITE, GALVESTON PARK BOARD BOARD WEBSITE, THE GLO WEBSITE, WHICH HAS THE TEXT-TO-SPEECH ACCESSIBILITY GUIDE AND TEXAS COAST, WHICH IS FORMULATED BY THE GLO AND IT'S A REALLY NICE MAP AND IT HAS ALL OF THE BEACH ACCESS POINT AND THEN PHOTOS.
THEY SHOULD BE USING SOME OF MY PHOTOS TO ACTUALLY UPDATE WHAT THEY HAVE ON THERE NOW.
>> THANK YOU [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THROW OUT THE HORNS. [LAUGHTER].
THANKS FARJI AND THANKS HEATHER, WE [NOISE] APPRECIATE THAT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] TO SOME OF THAT. [OVERLAPPING] WE ARE SEEING THAT, SOUNDS GOOD.
THAT'S YOUR PARTY FAVORITE GEL.
ALL RIGHT ANYTHING ELSE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? IF NOT RUE GEORGE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.