May 18, 2021 Planning Commission

YES, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO START.

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[1. Call Meeting To Order]

WE'LL START BY TAKING ATTENDANCE.

[2. Attendance]

SO WE WERE MR. ANTONELLI PRESENT.

MR. BROWN, MR. EDWARDS IS ABSENT HILL HERE.

MR. HOLLAWAY HERE WITH YOU, DEAR, AND WALLA YOU.

I DON'T SEE THAT MR. LISTOWSKI HAS JOINED US YET, WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT WHEN HE DOES STAFF PERSON OR PERSON OR MYSELF.

COUNCILMAN, GORMAN. AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TODAY PLANT A NEW PLANNING.

KIRKPATRICK COLIN PATRICK COLLINS HAS JUST JOINED US.

FIRST DAY WAS LAST MONDAY, SO IT'S JUST ABOUT A WEEK ON THE TEAM.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON, GUYS.

WELCOME BACK. WELL, WE'LL TRY NOT TO GIVE HIM TOO HARD OF A TIME, CATHERINE.

OFFENSE. GREAT.

SO I'LL BE DOING THE ROLL CALLS THIS WEEK.

PATRICK WILL BE DOING THE NOTETAKING AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING, HE'LL START DOING THE ROLL CALL. OK, GREAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE MONEY MANAGER, ADRIAN MONTALVAN, GREB, ASSISTANT COASTAL RESOURCES MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DONNA FAIRWEATHER.

OK, GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND WELCOME ABOARD, PATRICK.

NEXT, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST SAYING NONE WILL MOVE ON? MEETING FORMAT MS..

[4. Meeting Format (Staff)]

YOU CAN SEE OF ALL YOUR COMMISSIONERS AT THE SAME TIME.

AND IT'S HOW WE SHOW IT TO THE PUBLIC.

WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOURSELF MUTED TO CUT DOWN ON BACKGROUND NOISE WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING.

WE ASK THAT YOU PHYSICALLY RAISE YOUR HAND TO GET THE CHAIR'S ATTENTION BEFORE SPEAKING OR MAKING A MOTION. STAFF IS HERE BY PHONE, AS ARE THE APPLICANTS, TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

AND WE DO HAVE THE PUBLIC ON THE CALL AND THEY'RE ABLE TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, WE ASK THAT THE PUBLIC USE THE RACE AND FEATURE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, AND THAT WILL BE THE INDICATION THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK. AND WE'LL BE DOING THE VOTES I RECALL.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.

DO WE TO HAVE ANY CHANGES, CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS TO THE MAY 4TH BUSINESS?

[5. Approval Of Minutes]

[6. Public Comment]

WE RECEIVED IT IN WRITTEN FORM AROUND NOON TODAY.

SO IF ANYONE EMAILED IN PUBLIC COMMENT OR EVEN RETURNED A FORM THAT WAS A TWO HUNDRED FOOT RULE FORM, KNOW THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THOSE PRIOR TO THE MEETING TODAY AND THEY WILL BE INCLUDED AS A PERMANENT PART OF THE MINUTES.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK OR WANTED TO SPEAK REGARDING BEACH MAINTENANCE AND THOSE ITEMS ARE UNDER ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, WILL NOT HAVE HEARINGS DURING THAT PART OF THE MEETING.

SO NOW WOULD BE YOUR TIME TO SPEAK IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SO, KATHERINE, I WOULD USE THE RIGHT HAND FEATURE RIGHT NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? HAVE THEY BEEN GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO BE OK? SO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A BEACH MAINTENANCE ITEM LISTED UNDER SEVEN IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND NOW.

WE'VE HAD ONE HAND RAISED AS FOR ALEX NELSON, I WILL ENABLE YOU TO SPEAK, MR. NELSON, AND YOU NEED TO YOURSELF ON YOUR END AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YOU CERTAINLY CAN.

OK, SO MY NAME IS ALEXANDER NELSON AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND SONIA PERITO.

I HOPE THAT I COULD BE EXTENDED JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME IN THE THREE MINUTES TO GET MY POINT ACROSS. SO SONIA PRETO, I'M ALSO REPRESENTING PRETO BEACH AND BEACH SERVICES AND VENDORS WHO OPERATE ON PREDIABETES.

SONIA PRADO'S MY MOTHER AND HENRY PETER PERUTO JR.

IS MY GRANDFATHER WHO OWNED AND OPERATED PREDIABETES FROM SIX TO 10, 11 TO 12, 14 TO 16,

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SINCE THE 1950S, THESE LEGAL PROPERTY DESCRIPTIONS ARE FOUND ON COUNTY RECORDS.

OUR OWNERSHIP WAS CONFIRMED BY THE STATE SUPREME COURT OF TEXAS IN TWENTY FIFTEEN.

WE ALL FORMALLY OBJECT TO THE PARK BOARD'S REQUESTED PERMITTING OF STUART BEACH DAILY, DEUNAN BEACH MAINTENANCE AND SEAWALL URBAN PARK DOING A BEACH MAINTENANCE.

WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE GALVESTON PARK BOARD MAYNARDS PERMIT FOR ANY OF PREDIABETES PROPERTIES IN ITEM 21 B F DASH ZERO FIVE THREE.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS, THE BEACH AREA OF SEAWALL BOULEVARD LANDWARD OF THE GULF OF MEXICO, WEST OF TENDS TO BE GREEN AND EAST TO THE FISHING INDUSTRY IS DECEPTIVE, FALSE AND MISLEADING. THE LAW REQUIRES LEGAL PROPERTY DESCRIPTIONS WHEN PERMITTING PROPERTIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THESE ARE NOT.

THOSE PROPERTY DESCRIPTIONS ARE USED FOR DECEPTIVE PRACTICES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO FALSE CLAIMS OF OWNERSHIP MAPPING, LEASING ORDINANCES, AN APPLICATION FOR PUBLIC AND LOCAL FUNDING. SO IN PRADO'S PROPERTIES ARE WIND WITHIN THIS AREA AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LEGAL PROPERTY DESCRIPTIONS.

IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT YOU FOUGHT FOR 21 YEARS TO PROTECT ON BEHALF OF HER FATHER WHO DIED OVER THESE VERY ISSUES.

THE CITY OF GALVESTON IS NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND SONIA IS NOT GIVING ANY CONSENT TO THE CITY OR PARK BOARD TO MAKE APPLICATIONS ON HER BEHALF.

IN FACT, THE FEDERAL COURTS UPHELD HER REMOVING THE PARK BOARD FROM HER PROPERTIES FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS TO PROVE UP THE PARK.

BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND THE CITY OF GALVESTON'S MAINTENANCE OF BEACHES AND SHORELINES CAUSED EROSION. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE OUR LAND HAS BEEN ACCRETING OVER 12 FEET ANNUALLY OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS.

AFTER THE PARK BOARD'S REMOVAL, THE CITY AND PARK BOARD ALSO FALSELY CLAIM THAT THE BEACHES, INCLUDING PEREIRO BEACHES, ARE ERODING ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO EIGHT FEET A YEAR.

THE PUBLIC EASEMENTS DEFINED BY THE PARK FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON HAVE NOT BEEN ACQUIRED FROM SONIA PRADO ON PROPERTIES LISTED AS OWNED BY THE CITY IN THIS APPLICATION.

THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF A CONTINUED ONGOING PROPERTY AND OTHER FRAUD.

OBTAINING PROPERTY, OBTAINING PERMITS FOR PROPERTY YOU DON'T OWN WITHOUT CONSENT FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS IS PROPERTY FRAUD.

WE OBJECTED OPPOSED TO TWENTY ONE BARDASH ZERO FIVE TWO AS WELL.

BASED ON THE PROXIMITY TO PREDIABETES BEACHES AND PREVIOUS ACTIONS OF THE PARK BOARD'S BEACH MAINTENANCE PRACTICES IN THE LONG AND SHORT TERM DAMAGE CAUSED TO BE CLEAR IN 2010.

SO IN YOUR PARETTA, REMOVE THE PARK BOARD FROM THE TRUSTEE PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES FROM ANY CLEANING WHEN SEAWEED WAS OR WAS NOT PRESENT ON PREDIABETES.

SHORELINE'S THIS CITY OF GALVIS IN THE PARK BOARD FALSELY CLAIMED PREDIABETES PROPERTIES WERE CRITICALLY ERODING AND THEREFORE JUSTIFIED THEIR DENYING ANY PERMITTING TO PRETO, WHO HAS HISTORICALLY CLEANED AND MAINTAINED PEREIRO BEACHES WHICH ARE ACCRETING IN THE SHORELINE AREAS. IN FACT, PRETO BEACH PROPERTIES INCLUDE SEAWELL BEACHES ARE GROWING, BUT THE PARK BOARD ILLEGALLY REMOVE THESE ACCRETIONS FOR YEARS, EVEN IN VIOLATION.

AYERS YOU CAN PLEASE BE EXTENDED THE ABILITY TO SPEAK.

MR. NELSON, I NEED YOU TO WRAP IT UP, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ACT THE SAME WAY FOR ANYONE WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE MEETING FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT.

I'M SORRY, BUT I DO NEED YOU TO WRAP IT UP, PLEASE, SIR.

OK, I'LL WRAP IT UP FOR YOU.

JUST GIVE ME A MINUTE, PLEASE.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. YOU GOT YOU DON'T HAVE A MINUTE.

YOU'VE GOT 30 SECONDS, PLEASE.

THIS PROVES THAT THE PARKWOOD WAS MANIPULATING EROSION RATES WITH LOADERS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE FUNDING FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT.

SO IN YOUR PRODUCT WAS SILENCE BY THE PARK WITHIN CITY AND CONFLICTED ATTORNEYS IN THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE BY BEING STALLED AND SLANDERED AND FORCED INTO BANKRUPTCY.

ALL BECAUSE SHE ASKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY IN 2011 12 TO CEASE THESE PROPERTIES IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THIS PERMIT WITHOUT EXCLUDING PROBABLY JUST PROPERTIES, YOU WILL BE PERPETUATING SOME OF THIS FRAUD THAT'S CONTINUING.

THESE ISSUES ARE NOT NEW AND COMPLICATED AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WRONG.

AND IT'S GOING TO STOP BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN NOTIFIED REPEATEDLY AND CHOSE TO TURN THE OTHER WAY. WE NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THESE PERMITS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CONSENT GIVEN AND THE PUBLIC DOES NOT OWN THOSE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU, MR. NELSON.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND WE WILL CERTAINLY CONSIDER THEM MS. GORMAN. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE BEACH MAINTENANCE PERMITS UNDER AGENDA ITEM SEVEN? YES.

LET ME GO. LANDRY HAS RAISED HER HAND TO SPEAK.

I WILL ENABLE YOU TO SPEAK AND YOU CAN COMMUTE ON YOUR END.

OH, HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS PRETTY COOL UNDER THE THREAT MANAGEMENT AND VIRTUE AND THE BEACH FRONT, JUST SEAWEED.

IN ADDITION, PERMITS FOR COLORED BEACH ESTATES, WHICH IS THREE TO NINETEEN EIGHTY SEVEN HOLLAWAY BEACH DRIVE AND FOR THE RIVER ONE, RIVER TWO AND WAS EACH GREEN COMMUNITIES.

I SAW THAT I WAS THAT WE WERE ON THIS.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF I NEEDED TO DO IT OR IF Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME TO HELP THOSE PERMITS GO THROUGH. THANK YOU.

THAT WOULD JUST BE THE TIME IF YOU HAD ANYTHING, IF YOU FELT THERE WAS ANYTHING UNUSUAL, ANYTHING THAT THE COMMISSION NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES.

SINCE IT'S A CONSISTENT AGENDA ITEM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE QUESTIONING THOSE UNLESS THE

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OK, NO, THEN I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

I'M SORRY. BUSINESS. THERE CAN BE.

NO, NO, NO, IT'S FINE.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO CLEAR UP ANY ANY MISUNDERSTANDING OR JUST CLARIFY THE PROCESS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE ALL STAYING ON OUR TOES ON THIS ONE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYONE ELSE? MS. GORMAN. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER RACE HANDS.

IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.

SEEING THEM. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[7. Consent Agenda]

AND COMMISSIONERS', I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW COMMISSIONERS.

THE WAY WE HANDLE THESE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE THEM ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE THEY ALL DO RELATE TO BE BEACH MAINTENANCE, UNLESS A COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY SPECIFIC CASES PULLED OUT AND ADDRESSED SEPARATELY.

COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY? YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER SEPARATELY TWENTY ONE BFX ZERO FOUR FOUR TWENTY ONE BSF ZERO FOUR NINE TWENTY ONE BSF ZERO FIVE ZERO TWENTY ONE BMF ZERO FIVE ONE TWENTY ONE BSF ZERO FIVE SIX.

OK, THANK YOU.

WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE SEPARATELY COMMISSIONERS.

THAT LEAVES US JUST WITH ITEMS. TWENTY ONE B F ZERO FIVE TWO FIVE THREE AND FIVE FOUR ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA WITH WOULD ANYONE LIKE. YES COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY.

I MADE A MISTAKE.

I REALLY WANT INSTEAD OF ZERO FIVE ONE I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ZERO FIVE TWO.

OK, SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE JUST TO MAKE SURE I HAVE IT CORRECT THAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO COMMISSIONER.

YOU WANT TO LEAD TWENTY ONE BFX ZERO FIVE ONE FIVE THREE AND FIVE FOUR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT.

FIVE ONE FIVE THREE FIVE FOUR, YES, MA'AM.

OK, COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE AN OBJECTIVE, AN OBJECTION TO LEAVING TWENTY ONE ZERO FIVE ONE FIVE THREE AND FIVE FOUR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NO OBJECTION WILL CONTINUE ON.

WILL FIRST HANDLE THOSE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

THEN WE'LL PULL THE ITEMS. WE'LL CONSIDER THE ITEMS THE COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY WANT TO PULL IN ORDER THAT THEY APPEAR ON THE AGENDA. WELL, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE REMAINING ITEMS. TWENTY ONE ZERO FIVE ONE FIVE THREE AND FIVE FOUR TO HAVE A MOTION VICE CHAIR BROWN.

I MOVE. WE APPROVED TWENTY ONE ZERO FIVE ONE ZERO ONE THREE AND TWENTY WOULD BE A ZERO BY FOUR AS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS IS PROVIDED BY STAFF.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, WE'LL HAVE A VOTE NOW, PLEASE, MR. ANTONELLI. MR. ANTONELLI, I'M SORRY, IN FAVOR OF JEFFERSON BROWN FIBER.

CHAIRPERSON WHO IN FAVOR OF HOLLAWAY IN FAVOR, PENA IN FAVOR, WALLA IN FAVOR, FAVOR, THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE ITEMS SEPARATELY.

[7.A.1. 21BF-044 (Pirates Beach & Pirates Beach West)]

SO WE'LL START WITH A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.

MS.. GREB. ALL RIGHT, LET ME JUST PULL UP THAT FIRST STUFF REPORT FOR TWENTY ONE ZERO FOR FOUR.

ALL RIGHT. SO TWENTY ONE BE ZERO FOUR FOR THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CONDUCT BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES TO RELOCATE SEAWEED IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED WASHING ASHORE.

THIS IS FOR PIRATE SPEECH AND PIRATE SPEECH.

W THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO CONDUCT ANY ADDITIONAL BEACH MAINTENANCE EXCEPT THAT WHICH IS PROVIDED BY THE GALVESTON PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

THE EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED PROGRAM INVOLVES THE PARK BOARD CONDUCTING BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED ALONG

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LOCATED SOUTH OF THE PIRATES BEACH AND PIRATES' BEACH WEST, SUBDIVISIONS AND EXTREME INUNDATION EVENT IS DESCRIBED AS AN ACCUMULATION OF SEAWEED THAT RESTRICTS ACCESS TO THE WATER. WHEN SEAWEED ACCUMULATES AT A HEIGHT OF TWO AND A HALF FEET AND GROUND COVER WIDTH OF TEN FEET AND IMPACTS MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF THE LINEAR FOOTAGE.

THE PROPOSED BEACH IN ITS AREA IS SEAWARD OF THE DUNE PROTECTION LINE, AND WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW AREA, STAFF FINDS THAT THE BEACH FRONT MAINTENANCE CONFORMS WITH THE CITY OF GALVESTON BEACH ACCESS PLAN AND EROSION RESPONSE PLAN AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE AREA PREPARED IN A POWERPOINT.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF PIRATES' BEACH, PIRATES' BEACH WEST, AERIAL IMAGES INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF.

PACKARDS, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OF WHERE THE SEAWEED, IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION EVENT ONLY WOULD BE RELOCATED WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION.

OR SUBDIVISIONS, RATHER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THIS LAST SLIDE, WHEN IT COMES UP, WE'LL JUST BE THERE ARE MORE PHOTOS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS, BUT JUST OF PIRATE SPEECH AND PIRATE SPEECH, WEST BEACH AREA, THIS WHITE HAS BEEN HANGING UP THE POWERPOINT, SO IT PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO COME UP UP THERE.

AND I SAID THAT AND THEN. ALL RIGHT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT FOR 21 RBF, ZERO FOUR FOR PIRATES BEACH AND PIRATES BEACH, WEST BEACH MAINTENANCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BERGEY COMMISSIONERS'.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. SCENE NINE, MR. HOLLAWAY, THIS IS WHEN YOU WANT TO PULL YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AND AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION TO THE TO THE SPECIFIC CONDITION.

ALL RIGHT. FINE. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE SO SAYING NO COMMENTS.

I MEAN, NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR TWENTY ONE BFX ZERO FOR FOUR AT THREE FORTY EIGHT P.M..

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ONE.

IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS CASE, PLEASE USE THE RAISED HAND FEATURE.

CNN, OK, THANK YOU.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THREE FORTY NINE PM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS CASE, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY. YOU'RE MUTED, CAROL.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE ADOPTION OF TWENTY ONE BEEF ZERO FOR FOUR WITH ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT WOULD READ AS FOLLOWS.

THIS PERMIT APPROVES PARTICIPATION IN THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED PROGRAM ONLY.

NO OTHER MECHANICAL CLEANING OF THE BEACH IS AUTHORIZED UNDER THIS PERMIT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT IT BE SIGNED BY THE APPLICANT AND RETURN TO THE CITY AS A MATTER OF RECORD.

OK, SO IS THAT PART OF YOUR ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC CONDITION? IS THE. YES, THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION WITH AN ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC CONDITION.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? NO SEEING, NO DISCUSSION, WE'LL CALL THE VOTE ON THIS ONE, PLEASE, BEFORE WE DO THAT, IF I COULD JUST ASK COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY AS A FAVOR TO SEND THAT WORDING TO STAFF SO WE'LL HAVE IT ON THE RECORD. YES.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ADD IT TO THE CHAT HERE? IF YOU CAN SEND IT TO MY EMAIL, THAT WOULD BE BEST.

OK, I'LL DO THAT BECAUSE I'M.

YES, THANK YOU. I'LL DO THAT.

I THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI.

I'M IN FAVOR BY PERSON BROWN IN FAVOR OF BRINGING HELP IN FAVOR, HOLLAWAY

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE WE GO ON, SINCE THESE WERE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM AND SINCE THEY WERE VIEWED ORIGINALLY IN OUR AGENDA AS A GROUP, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, MAY I ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE A SIMILAR AMENDMENT ON FORTY NINE AND FIFTY, OR ARE THEY.

IS IT THE SAME AMENDMENT THAT WE THAT YOU ADDED ARE NOT AMENDMENT BUT THE SAME SPECIFIC CONDITION ON FORTY FOUR THAT YOU HAVE FOR FORTY NINE AND FIFTY.

OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT. NO, IT WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME WORDING.

SO THEN I WOULD ASK DONNA, MAY WE CONSIDER FORTY NINE AND FIFTY TOGETHER.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES, DON.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN CALL THEM TOGETHER AND ADD THAT VERBIAGE FOR EACH ONE SPECIFICALLY.

OK, DO IT.

IF WE DO THAT, DONNA, DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PUBLIC HEARING PART OR OR DO I NEED TO PULL THEM AS A WHOLE SEPARATE CASE OR CAN WE JUST.

WE ALREADY DID THE PUBLIC HEARING ISSUE ON THESE CONSENT ITEMS. SO IF YOU WANT TO NOW CALL THESE THREE OR FOUR ADDITIONAL CASES AS A GROUP TO ADD THAT VERBIAGE, THAT COULD BE ALL IN ONE MOTION.

SO, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, DOES THAT VERBIAGE APPLY TO HOW MANY MORE OF THE BEACHFRONT CASES? TWENTY ONE BE ZERO FOR NINE AND TWENTY ONE BE ZERO FIVE ZERO.

OK, THEN LET'S CALL THOSE TOGETHER AND CAN WE WAIT STAFF REPORT READING ON THOSE, DONNA.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

SO NEXT WE CALL TWENTY ONE BFX ZERO FOUR NINE TWENTY ONE BFX ZERO FIVE ZERO WAVE STAFF

[Items 7.A.2. & 7.A.3.]

WE'VE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE.

AND SO NOW WE WILL I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT TWENTY ONE ZERO FOUR NINE AND TWENTY ONE ZERO FIVE ZERO WITH ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC CONDITION.

THIS PERMIT APPROVED APPROVES PARTICIPATION IN THE PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES, EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED PROGRAM ONLY.

NO OTHER MECHANIZED CLEANING OF THE BEACH IS AUTHORIZED UNDER THIS PERMIT.

THIS WILL BE SIGNED AND RETURNED TO THE CITY BY THE APPLICANT.

FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? I'LL SECOND IT. AND NOW WE'LL HAVE A VOTE ON THE REVISED CONDITION FOR TWENTY ONE VOTE.

YES, OUR COMMISSIONER WALLA.

HANG ON. JUST YES, WE DISCUSSION.

SO MY QUESTION IS THIS, IF THERE IS MORE OF A QUESTION SO MR. HOLLAWAY HAS MADE SOME CHANGES AND THIS IS BEING DONE AFTER THE PUBLIC HAD A CHANCE TO COMMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE YET, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING.

THOUGH THE COMMENTS ARE MINOR, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE COMING UP. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE CHANGES, WE CERTAINLY SHOULD GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS WORKS OUT.

IT'S JUST IT SEEMS A LITTLE BACKWARDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING CHANGES.

WE NEED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENTS TO THOSE AS NOT AS MY OPINION.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU HANDLE THAT.

JUST TO JUST TO THE COMMENT AND I SEE YOUR POINT ON THAT.

THIS IS SIMPLY A CLARIFICATION.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO IN THIS CASE.

IT IS JUST A MATTER OF STATING IT IN ANOTHER IN ANOTHER WAY, BECAUSE THIS EXTREME INUNDATION PERMIT IS ONLY FOR THIS.

SO I THINK COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR AND SIGNED UP

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THESE ARE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES.

THEY THEY KNOW WHAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR AND THIS IS ALL THEY SIGNED UP FOR.

IT'S SIMPLY A CLARIFICATION.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ON THEM.

IT'S JUST STATING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR.

ARE THERE JUST THE TWO LEFT THEM AND THEN WE'RE DONE WITH THESE OR THERE'S MORE.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE CHANGES TO THOSE TWO.

WE HAVE TWO OTHERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND EACH OF THOSE WILL BE HANDLED SEPARATELY. AND I HAD SINCE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY IS PROPOSING ON THOSE, WE'LL HANDLE THEM JUST LIKE WE DID THE TWENTY ONE BFC REPORT FOR.

WE'LL GO WITH A COMPLETE HEARING THEN.

AND COMMISSIONER WALLA, IF I MAY INTERJECT, TYPICALLY WHEN CASES ARE HEARD BY THE COMMISSION AND THEN THEY'RE SET TO MOTION, THE COMMISSION OFTEN MAKES EITHER CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS TO A CONDITION OR TO SUPPLEMENT THE PACKET, AND THE PUBLIC DOES NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AFTER THAT FACT.

SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ON THE CONSENT ITEM THAT THE PUBLIC HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE.

OK, FAIR ENOUGH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? JEFF MR. ANTONELLI. I SAW YOUR HAND UP, SIR.

COMMISSIONER WALLA, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AT ANY TIME, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. AND IF THE CHAIR SO APPROVES OF THAT AND IT'S IN FAVOR, THEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT CAN BE OPEN.

ONCE AGAIN, IT'S NOT VERY COMMON, BUT I BELIEVE THAT I CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M INCORRECT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS ALLOWED HAS BEEN KNOWN TO HAPPEN.

AND AND AS AS YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI NOT SOMETHING WE WE STRIVE TO DO, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. AND AN EXCEPTION WITH EXCEPTION, I MEAN, IN EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

ALL RIGHT. SO NOW SEEING NO OTHER COMMENT, WE WILL CALL THE VOTE ON TWENTY ONE VOTES, ZERO FOUR NINE TWENTY ONE B F ZERO FIVE ZERO, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI IN FAVOR BY COMPARISON.

BROWN IN FAVOR OF BROKEN HILL IN FAVOR.

HOLLAWAY IN FAVOR.

PENA IN FAVOR.

WALLA IN FAVOR.

IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[7.B.2. 21BF-052 (Stewart Beach, 201 Seawall Blvd.)]

ALL RIGHT. TWENTY ONE B F ZERO FIVE TO STUART BEACH, TWO ZERO ONE SEAWALL BOULEVARD.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CONDUCT BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES ALONG APPROXIMATELY TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT LINEAR FEET OF PUBLIC BEACH AT STUART BEACH ON A DAILY AS NEEDED BASIS, WHICH INCLUDES CLEANING THE BEACH AND GRADING THE PARKING AREA.

THE APPLICANT ALSO PROPOSES TO REDISTRIBUTE SAND IN SEAWEED FROM STOCKPILE LOCATIONS TO THE PARKING AREAS EVERY EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY FOUR MONTHS AND RELOCATE SEAWEED IN THE EVENT OF AN. INUNDATION OF SEAWEED WASHING ASHORE AND EXTREME INUNDATION EVENT IS DESCRIBED AS AN ACCUMULATION OF SEAWEED THAT RESTRICTS ACCESS TO THE WATER WHEN SEAWEED ACCUMULATES AT A HEIGHT OF TWO AND A HALF FEET AND GROUND COVER WIDTH OF 10 FEET AND IMPACTS MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF THE LINEAR FOOTAGE.

THE PROPOSED BEACH MAINTENANCE AREA IS SEAWARD OF THE DUNE PROTECTION LINE AND WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW AREA, PAGES ONE THROUGH THREE OF THE STAFF REPORT SUMMARIZED THE APPLICANTS PROPOSED BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, THE SITE PLAN AND NARRATIVE ATTACHMENT BE SUBMITTED.

THIS REQUEST STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST CONFORMS TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

DUNE PROTECTION AND BEACH ACCESS PLAN AND EROSION RESPONSE PLAN.

STAFF FINDS THE REMAINING DUNE PROTECTION STANDARDS ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THIS REQUEST.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CASE TWENTY ONE BSF ZERO FIVE TWO, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS LISTED ON PAGES FOUR THROUGH FIVE AND STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR YOUR REVIEW.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE STUART BEACH AREA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OF WHERE SEAWEED WOULD BE RELOCATED IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED WASHING ASHORE.

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THANK YOU, MS. GREB.

DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR STAFF ON THIS ONE, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY? OH YES, FERGY.

OK, I'M NOT MEETING.

WE HEARD WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING UNTOWARD ABOUT THESE PERMIT APPLICATIONS FROM THE PARK BOARD WITH REGARD TO PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED IT TO BE PULLED.

I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ASSURE US THAT WE'RE TAKING THE RIGHT ACTION HERE TODAY.

IF WE NEED TO DEFER THESE, I'M SURE WE COULD DEFER THEM TO CLARIFY THE EXTENT OF THE ACTION AS FAR AS AREAL EXTENT SO THAT IT DOES NOT IMPEDE UPON A PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THE AREA. I GUESS THIS IS DONNA FAIRWEATHER, I'M THINKING, HOW WOULD YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN? SO SEEKING SOME CLARIFICATION ON YOUR QUESTION? WELL, I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I JUST HEARD IT.

I DIDN'T I DIDN'T REALIZE OR I DIDN'T SEE FROM OUR CASE REPORTS BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY SEE THE THE IMAGES VERY WELL.

THE EXTENT OF THE PROPOSED ACTION BY THE PARK BOARD.

AND WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO SAID THAT THESE THESE PROPOSED ACTIONS IMPEDE UPON HIS FAMILY'S PROPERTY.

CAN YOU TELL WHEN WE ASKED FOR SOME CLARIFICATION THERE AS TO THE AERIAL EXTENT OF THE PARK BOARD'S ACTIONS? I THINK AND VERGÈS HELP ME WITH THIS ONE.

BUT THE CLARIFICATION WOULD BE AS WHAT IS PRESENTED IN THIS DRAFT REPORT AS PART OF ITS REQUEST. IT'S REALLY NOT, I GUESS, APPROPRIATE FOR THIS BOARD TO GET INTO.

A CONFLICT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, OVER ONE NEIGHBOR'S ISSUE AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORS ISSUE, THAT THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD IN RELATION TO WHAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS STATED.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY PENA TAKE A SHOT.

VERGÈS, DO YOU FEEL THAT THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE LAID FORTH AND SPECIFIC CONDITION TO THAT THE APPLICANT'S ACTIVITY SHALL NOT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT REDISTRIBUTION OF SAND OR SIGNIFICANTLY ALTER THE BEACH PROFILE MATERIAL AND WEAKEN DUNES OR REDUCE THE PROTECTIVE FUNCTION OF THE DUNES? AND THEN.

THE FACT THAT SPECIFIC CONDITIONS SIX, THE APPLICANT SHOULD MINIMIZE THE RANKING OF THE BEACH TO ONLY WHEN THE INFLUX OF MATERIALS IS HEAVY ENOUGH TO IMPACT THE PUBLIC'S ABILITY TO USE THE BEACH EASEMENT.

AND THE DEFINITION OF THAT IN THE REPORT, WHICH IS TWO AND A HALF FEET, DO YOU FEEL THAT ADEQUATELY PROTECTS? THAT PORTION OF THE BEACH FROM SIGNIFICANT EROSION OR ALTERING ANY ACCRETION.

YES, AND, YOU KNOW, HANDPICKING HER HAND RAKING DOES NOT REQUIRE A PERMIT.

AND THAT IS MAYBE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OF OF HOW OFTEN THE COASTAL ZONE MANAGEMENT TEAM GOES OUT TO TO HAND-PICK AN HENDRICKX, WHICH I'M SURE WE'VE ALL SEEN AS WE DRIVE UP AND DOWN THE SEAWALL OR GO TO THE BEACH.

BUT, YES, I FEEL THAT THE SPECIFIC AND SPECIAL CONDITIONS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

OK, THANK YOU.

YES, MR. ANTONELLI.

OK, SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE IS THE PARK BOARD REQUESTING THE BEACH MAINTENANCE FOR PROPERTY THEY DO NOT OWN.

AND IF IF THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL, HOW COULD THEY PROPOSE TO

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IN YOUR STAFF PACKETS, IT SHOWS THE PARCELS OF THE ART THAT ARE IN BLUE OR CITY OF GALVESTON AND PARK, BOARD THE PARCELS AND READ THE PARCELS AND BLACK.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BRING SOME CLARIFICATION OF THE AREA THAT THE PARK BOARD IS PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN FOR STUART BEACH PARK.

IF YOU EXAMINE THAT PORTION OF THE STAFF REPORT AND STILL HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

AND I'M SURE DONNA CAN CAN ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE MUCH BETTER THAN I CAN WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PORTION OF THE QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI, DID YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT DONNA TO ADD MORE TO THAT AFTER LOOKING AT PAGE 10 OF 20 ON THE STAFF REPORT? YEAH, I'M TRYING TO GET PAST ALL THESE PHOTOS AND DOWNLOAD IT PRETTY SLOW ON MY SYSTEM.

I'LL PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN.

OK, THEN.

THE BLUE PARCELS ARE THE CITY OF GALVESTON AND PORT BOARD TRUSTEE PURSELL.

THE WHITE PARCELS ARE PRIVATELY HELD AND NOT WITHIN THE PROJECT FOOTPRINT.

AND THEN THE ORANGE PARCEL IS PART OF THE STORAGE PROPERTY AND IS IN IN THE REQUEST.

AND ALSO THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DEPARTMENT ON THE CALL THAT MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION.

OK, SO. SO THERE WILL BE NO ENCROACHMENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

I GUESS NOW I CAN SEE EVERYBODY.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MS. FAIRWEATHER, WE HAVE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE AND AND CLOSED IT DUE.

AM I REQUIRED TO REOPEN IT? AND YOU WOULD BE REOPENING IT FOR I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT'S READY FOR MOTION.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THIS CASE HAS JUST BEEN CALLED.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM FROM THE PARK BOARD.

I GUESS. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT 4:00 P.M.

AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT.

THE PART BOARD REPRESENTATIVE IS ON THE PHONE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. HELLO, THIS IS KIMBERLY DYNARSKI, THE CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER FOR THE PARK BOARD.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

GREAT. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY, COMMISSIONERS.

WHO HAS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING WITH US.

WE HEARD FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY FEEL THAT THESE PERMIT REQUESTS INFRINGE UPON THEIR PUBLIC PROPERTY.

AND I THINK JEFF PROBABLY WORDED IT BETTER THAN I HAVE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU IS AN ASSURANCE THAT YOUR FOOTPRINT FOR THE PROPOSED ACTIVITY ONLY FALLS WITHIN THE BOARD'S PURVIEW.

YES, MA'AM, THAT IS CORRECT.

OUR PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED ACTIVITY DOES NOT ENCROACH UPON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IS FOR THE PROPERTIES OF THE PARK OR ADVANTAGES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? AH, YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER WALLA, I HAVE A KIND OF A TECHNICAL QUESTION.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT CLAIMING.

I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT THESE THE PARETTA FAMILY IS CLAIMING THAT YOU'RE PLANNING THEIR PORTION OF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND THIS IS WHAT I NEED SOME HELP, IS THAT WHEN YOU CLAIM THE BEACH AND THE FURTHER BACK YOU CLAIM THE BEACH, IT MAKES THAT PORTION OF THE BEACH PUBLIC IN LIEU OF IT BEING PRIVATE.

IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE SOMEBODY MAY MAYBE THE APPLICANT IS NOT THE PERSON TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT MAYBE SO MAYBE IT'S A CONCERN.

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SO THIS IS KIMBERLY WITH THE PASSPORT.

AGAIN, THAT IS A MUCH DEEPER QUESTION THAN I'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER AT THIS TIME.

WHAT I CAN CONFIRM FOR YOU IS THAT THE PARK BOARD DOES, AS PART OF THEIR DAILY BEACH CLEANING ACTIVITIES, GO ALONG THE WATER'S EDGE OF THE BEACH IN FRONT OF THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY TO HAND PICK TRASH, AS WELL AS EMPTY ANY TRASH CANS THAT ARE ALONG THAT PRIVATE BEACH. OUR FEDERAL PERMIT FOR SEAWEED RELOCATION PURPOSES DOES NOT EXTEND TO THIS SECTION OF THE BEACH. IT'S EXCLUDED.

THERE ARE SEVERAL SECTIONS OF THE BEACH THAT ARE EXCLUDED IN OUR FEDERAL PERMIT FOR THE PURPOSE OF RELOCATING SEAWEED.

BUT YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT TODAY.

OK, THANK YOU. AND THAT IS SHE BRINGS UP AN IMPORTANT POINT.

ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THE EXTREME INUNDATION OF SEAWEED PROGRAM, NOT ANYTHING ELSE. I AM NOT GOING TO LOOK BEYOND.

I'M JUST CURIOUS NOW.

ASKING QUESTIONS, IT'S A GOOD THING.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHTY, SEEING NONE.

WE'VE ALREADY HEARD LOOKING FOR DIRECTION HERE, MS., FAIRWEATHER, WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD ONCE FROM MR. OH GOODNESS GRACIOUS, MR. NELSON ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

DO WE REOPEN AGAIN FOR THAT COMMENT OR SINCE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD IT, THE REOPENING IS YOU WANT TO CALL IT A REOPENING OF COMMENTS FOR A QUESTION OF THE PARK OR SPECIFICALLY FOR A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT? IT'S NOT, AGAIN, A REAL THING, OF COURSE, FOR ANYONE TO MAKE COMMENTS.

SO IT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR A QUESTION THAT A COMMISSIONER HAD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

KEEP ME IN LINE, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE WILL SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON TWENTY ONE B.F.

DASH ZERO FIVE TO.

I'LL MOVE, I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF TWENTY ONE B OF 05 TO AS PRESENTED BY STAFF WITH STAFF CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY? DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NO DISCUSSION WILL CALL THE VOTE, PLEASE.

MR. ANTONELLI, I'M IN FAVOR OF CHAIRPERSON BROWN IN FAVOR, BRICKHILL IN FAVOR, HOLLAWAY IN FAVOR, IN FAVOR WALLA.

WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONERS NOW WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THIS AGENDA.

[7.C.1. 21BF-056 (Beachside Village Subdivision)]

MAY WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT PLEASE.

YES. CASE TWENTY ONE B F ZERO FIVE SIX FOR THE BEACHSIDE VILLAGE SUBDIVISION.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CONDUCT BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES ON APPROXIMATELY THREE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY LINEAR FEET OF PUBLIC BEACH BETWEEN THE THREE FOOT CONTOUR LINE AND THE SUBDIVISION BOULARD SAND FENCEPOSTS, WHERE THE BOLLARDS AND SAND FENCE POSTS DO NOT EXIST.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONDUCT BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES BETWEEN THE THREE FOOT CONTOUR LINE AND THE NATURAL VEGETATION LINE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MONTHLY BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES SEPTEMBER THROUGH MAY AND TWICE THE MONTH OF JUNE THROUGH AUGUST.

THE PROPOSED BEACH MAINTENANCE AREA IS SEAWARD OF THE DUNE PROTECTION LINE AND WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW AREA OF PAGES TWO, THREE AND A LITTLE BIT OF FOUR OF THE STAFF REPORTS SUMMARIZE THE APPLICANTS PROPOSE BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES.

THE SITE PLAN AND NARRATIVE ARE IN ATTACHMENT B AND SUBMITTED WITH THIS REQUEST, AND STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST CONFORMS TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

DUNE PROTECTION AND BEACH ACCESS PLAN AND APPROACH AND RESPONSE PLAN AND THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CASE TWENTY ONE B F ZERO FIVE SIX.

AND THE SPECIAL AND SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ARE LISTED ON PAGE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. AND STAFF HAS PREPARED PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR YOUR REVIEW.

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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN WITH A SURVEY OF THE SUBDIVISION AND THE RED LINE INDICATES THE PLACEMENT OF SEAWEED, WHICH IS JUST SEAWARD OF THE SAND FENCED AREA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS AND THE REMAINDER OF THE PHOTOS ARE IN THE STAFF PACKET THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.

BUT THESE ARE JUST A FEW THAT WE PUT IN FOR THE STAFF REPORT AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. GREB. IT'S JUST ALWAYS SO PLEASANT TO LISTEN TO YOUR VOICE.

VERGÈS. I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ON THE RADIO.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ISD MS. HOLLAWAY COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY STANDA.

YES, THANK YOU, BERGEY.

I'VE GOT I SEE SOME THINGS HERE IN THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT WERE ECHOED, I MEAN, FROM THE GIALLO.

AND I THINK THEY'RE CONTRADICTORY BECAUSE UNDER SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, SEVEN, IT SAYS THE APPLICANT SHALL RETURN ANY FAND MOVED OR REDISTRIBUTED DUE TO BEACH MAINTENANCE TO THE AREA BETWEEN THE LINE OF VEGETATION AND MEAN HIGH TIDE.

HOWEVER, ON SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.

SIXTEEN, IT SAYS THIS PERMIT APPLICATION DOES NOT AUTHORIZE ANY ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE U.S. JURISDICTION, WHICH IS SEAWARD OF THE THREE FOOT CONTER ELEVATION.

SO HOW DO WE RECONCILE THAT? SO SPECIFIC CONDITIONS SEVEN, THAT'S JUST A BROAD GLO COMMENT, AND SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS IDENTIFIED WHERE THEY'LL BE PLACING SEAWEED, IT'S COVERED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND THEN AS FOR I BELIEVE, WAS IT STANDARD CONDITIONS 17 OR NO, 16, 16 YEARS.

AND THIS IS JUST A COMMENT.

THE GLOW INCLUDES THAT IN ADDITION TO THE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED ABOVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL CONDUCT ACTIVITIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH OTHER LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL REGULATIONS AND PERMITS. AND SO THIS PERMIT APPLICATION DOES NOT AUTHORIZE ANY ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE U.S.

JURISDICTION. AND WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PLACE SEAWEED ISN'T WITHIN THE ARMY CORPS JURISDICTION, IF I'M REVIEWING THE STUFF REPORT CORRECTLY.

BUT AM I MISUNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION? NO, I JUST SAW THE CONCERN, THE CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS FROM THE GLOBE.

AND SO I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD FIX THAT BY SOMETIME OR OTHER ON OUR PLATE, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M SORRY, BUT THEY CAN'T I MEAN, UNDER THIS PERMIT APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT BE APPROACHING ME.

MEAN LOW TIDE. CORRECT, RIGHT.

OK, SO MAYBE WHEN WE GET TO THAT PART, WE COULD MODIFY THAT CONDITION TO REFLECT THE ACTUAL PRACTICE RATHER THAN THE BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE.

THE COMMISSION HAS THE DISCRETION TO DO OK.

OK, THANK YOU. YEAH, THE OTHER THE OTHER THING WAS, LIKE YOU POINT OUT IN SPECIFIC CONDITION, ONE, THAT A VEHICLE CANNOT CANNOT ENCROACH WITHIN 10 FEET OF THE LINE, THE SOUTHERN TIP OF THE DUNE.

BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE SOUTH TO THE DUNE IS IN RELATION TO THE REFERENCE BOOK OF BOLLARDS OR.

THERE'S SOME REFERENCE MADE TO.

I GUESS ABOUT FANFAN OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING IN.

IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT, SO THE SEAWEED WOULD STILL BE PLACED AT THE TOE OF THE DUNE, WHICH WOULD BE SOUTH OF THOSE JUST AT THOSE SAND FENCE BOLLARDS.

OK, BUT IS THAT CONTRADICTORY TO THE 10 FOOT BORDER? FROM THE SOUTH TOWARD THE DO, THE SAND FENCES ARE USUALLY PLACED A LITTLE MORE WITHIN THE DUNE AREA SO THAT 10 FEET WOULD STILL BE IN AN AREA WHERE THEY'RE RESTORING THE DUNE AREA

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BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE ON THE LINE. OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR STAFF ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHTY, SO WE HAVE ALREADY HAD BASIC PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, SO NOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO BRING THE APPLICANT IN ONLY SO THAT COMMISSIONERS CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

SO DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR TWENTY ONE VFW'S ZERO FIVE SIX ON THE LINE? I SEE. MS. RHINEHART, HOW ARE YOU? I'M WELL.

I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE.

AND DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE I LIKE? IF I COULD ASK VERGÈS TO PLEASE VERGÈS, CAN YOU PUT THE PICTURE UP WHERE I HAD THAT HANDWRITTEN AND READ WHERE THE SEAWEED WILL BE PLACED? CAN YOU PUT THAT PICTURE BACK UP? IT'S THE HIGH HIGH TIDE SURVEY.

THIS WILL BE THE EASIEST WAY FOR COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY TO SEE WHAT WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE. OK, HERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHT, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT WHERE I'VE DRAWN THE RED LINE THAT RUNS ALONG, IT RUNS SEAWARD OF A BUNCH OF BROWN DOTS.

THOSE BROWN DOTS ARE THE BOLLARDS FOR THE SAND FENCE.

THE LINE OF VEGETATION IS WAY UP THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN DOTTED LINE WAY TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

SO WE WILL BE PLACING THE SEAWEED, THE SEAWARD SIDE OF THE BOLLARD.

SO WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR OR WITHIN THAT TEN FOOT FROM THE LINE OF VEGETATION.

THANK YOU. I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION, CAN I GO AHEAD AND ASK THE APPLICANT? SURE. IT'S YOUR INTENTION TO JUST RAKE SEAWEED WITH THIS APPLICATION.

IT WAS HARD TO TELL FROM YOUR LETTER, AS YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED, SEAWEED I DIDN'T KNOW AS OPPOSED TO MANMADE DEBRIS.

DO YOU HOW DO YOU ADDRESS TRASH WEED? IT'S TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT'S ALL HANDLED AT THE SAME TIME, JUST LIKE THE PARKS FOR THE I MEAN, IT'S IT'S TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TRASH, BUT BUT IT'S TYPICALLY JUST TO BREAK UP THE SEAWEED. I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU'RE INTENDING TO USE A MECHANICAL RAKE, OF COURSE, TO ADDRESS ALL OF THIS.

ALL OF THIS IS DONE WITH THE MECHANICAL RAKE.

WE THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A SIMILAR BEACH CLEANING MAINTENANCE APPLICATION THAT WE'VE DONE FOR YEARS. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO DISTINCTION IN THE ACTION THAT YOU'RE YOUR CONTRACTOR WILL DO A PIECE CLEANING THE BEACH OR RAKING THE BEACH.

HE'S NOT GOING TO BE HAND PICKING TRASH, CAROL.

I SUSPECT THAT IF THERE IS A LARGE A LARGE PIECE OF TRASH, BUT HE'S NOT GOING TO GO IN THERE AND PICK UP A BOTTLE CAP IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEPARATED AND END UP VERSUS SAYING THAT HE THINKS THE MACHINE SEPARATES THE TRASH, BUT THE SMALL TRASH, OK, BUT IT'S STILL PICKING IT UP THAT AT THAT TIME, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY.

I'M GOING TO PICK UP.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

NO, NO.

I SUPPOSE IT DOES PICK UP TRASH.

OK, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU. IS THERE IS THERE SOMETHING THAT HAS CHANGED THAT WE ARE DISALLOWED TO DO THAT? NO, NO.

I JUST WONDERED WHAT THE BECAUSE READING YOUR LETTER, I HAD THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU WERE ONLY DOING THIS TO WRITE SEAWEED, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU HAD ALREADY.

THAT'S THE REASON I WROTE THAT, IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF WHAT IS GETTING RAKED UP.

THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF WHAT IS ON THE BEACH.

YES. AND YOU'RE YOUNG.

YOU HAVE A SCHEDULE PROPOSED IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

THE SAME SCHEDULE WE'VE HAD FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

YES, RIGHT. OK, BUT HONESTLY, MONTHLY FROM SEPTEMBER TO MAY AND TWICE A MONTH DURING THE SUMMER. THANK YOU.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I SEE NONE.

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WE APPRECIATE IT.

NOW WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON TWENTY ONE B DASH ZERO FIVE SIX.

YES, COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TWENTY ONE BIAP ZERO FIVE SIX OH SECOND. ALL RIGHTY.

AND LET'S HAVE A IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? YES, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY.

I'M SORRY, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE A CORRECTION TO THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, EVEN THOUGH THE GLOBE USE THIS BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE IT MORE SPECIFIC TO THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION AND MODIFY AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SPECIFIC CONDITIONS SEVEN THAT WOULD READ THE APPLICANT SHALL RETURN ANY MOVE SAND MOVED OR REDISTRIBUTED DUE TO BEACH MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES TO THE AREA BETWEEN 10 FEET SEAWARD OF THE LAND LINE OF VEGETATION AND THE PLUS THREE ELEVATION CONTROL.

COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI OF A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT HAS BEEN OFFERED TO YOUR MOTION.

DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? THAT'LL BE FINE, THANK YOU.

AND MY SECOND HOLDS.

SO NOW WE HAVE OUR MOTION ON THE TABLE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS'? I SEE NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL HAVE A VOTE ON THIS ONE, PLEASE, MS. GORMAN. MR. ANTONELLI, I'M IN FAVOR, I SEE YOUR PERSON BROWN IN FAVOR, CHAIRPERSON IN FAVOR, HOLLAWAY IN FAVOR, PENA IN FAVOR OF WALLA IN FAVOR, IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[8.A.1. 21P-024 (1728 Seawall)]

THAT'S CASE TWENTY ONE P ZERO TWO FOUR PLEASE.

THIS IS ADJACENT TO 1728.

HE WITH THE REQUEST FOR A LICENSE TO USE OUTDOOR STORAGE PUBLIC NOTICES THAT WERE ELEVEN ONE RETURNS THAT ONE IN FAVOR.

NO OBJECTION FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PERMANENT LICENSE TO USE THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY IN ORDER TO STORE OUR RENTAL VEHICLES ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT TO ADDRESS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.

AT SEVENTEEN TWENTY EIGHT, SEAWELL HOUSE IS A RETAIL COMMERCIAL SPACE.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO STORE SOME RENTAL VEHICLES THAT INCLUDES STORIES AND GOLF CART ADJACENT TO THE BUSINESS WERE NOT IN SERVICE.

NOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED AN ABANDONMENT OF THE SAME ALLEY WHICH WAS CONSIDERED UNDER CATE TWENTY ONE ZERO TO TWO ON MAY 4TH.

TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THIS LTA WOULD ALLOW THE ALLIES USE PENDING THAT APPROVAL, OR IF THE REQUEST FOR ABANDONMENT SHOULD BE DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL STAFF.

RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS CASE TWENTY ONE P ZERO TO FOUR THE APPROVED THE ALLEY IS NOT UTILIZED FOR TRANSPORTATION AS IT ENDS AT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.

WELL, IT DOES CONTAIN CITY UTILITIES AND A TEXAS GAS LINE.

THESE ARE UNAFFECTED BY THE PROPOSED LAND USE.

NOTE, HOWEVER, THAT ANY ITEMS INCLUDED WOULD REQUIRE RELOCATION SHOULD THE LINE NEED TO BE ACCESSED OR IF REQUIRED, BY EMERGENCY SERVICES.

FINALLY, THE PROPOSED LAND USE OF OUTDOOR STORAGE IS PERMITTED AS A LIMITED USE IN COMMERCIAL, AND ANY LICENSES GRANTED WOULD REQUIRE CONFORMANCE TO THOSE STANDARDS AT ALL TIMES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH FIVE AND ITEMS SIX THROUGH 11 ARE STANDARD.

WE HAVE SOME PICTURES. THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE SUBJECT LOCATION AND SURVEY ALSO SHOWING THE UTILITY LINES THAT RUN THROUGH THE ALLEY AND A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE CURRENT CONDITIONS.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S NOT THROUGH ALLEY AND IT'S SET IN PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH AND WEST. AND THAT CONCLUDES THAT REPORT, CATE.

THANK YOU, CATHERINE.

I APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THIS ONE.

WHEN I LOOK BACK THROUGH AT SECTION TWO POINT THREE FOR FOUR OF THE OUTDOOR STORAGE LIMITED USE STANDARD SYSTEMS THAT IS INCLUDED AS PART OF OUR STAFF REPORT.

YOU SEE THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS IF SOMETHING IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL USE OR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS CATTYCORNER.

SO IT IS RIGHT THERE TO RESIDENTIAL USE AND IT SAYS WITH VISUAL SCREENING SHALL BE PROVIDED. THE SCREENING SHALL CONSIST OF A LANDSCAPING STRIP, AT LEAST FOUR FEET AND

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WELL, OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T HAVE THEM HAVE FOUR FEET OF SCREENING THERE BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PARK ANYTHING.

SO DO YOU KNOW, CATHERINE, HOW BIG, HOW WIDE THEIR GATE IS PLANNED TO BE ACROSS THAT 20 FOOT ALLEYWAY? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

THERE IS AN APPLICANT ON THE CALL THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.

OK, THANK YOU.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS TO MS..

FAIRWEATHER, MAY WE IS IT IS IT OK TO POSSIBLY ADD A SPECIFIC CONDITION TO THIS CASE THAT WOULD EXEMPT THIS APPLICANT FROM THE THE LANDSCAPE SCREENING REQUIREMENT OF SECTION TWO POINT THREE FOR FOR LIMITED USE, SOME LIMITED USE STANDARDS? I'M THINKING ON THAT, WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN PUT A CONDITION IN THAT IS AN EXEMPTION.

PART OF ME WAS TO SAY, I GUESS IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WORD IT, BUT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO PUT THE CONDITION THAT THEY ARE EXEMPTED FROM THE LANDSCAPE.

ME, I'D RATHER BE MORE PROACTIVE AND PUT IN THERE WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO OR WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M READING THROUGH.

THAT SECTION ON THE SCREENING IS CALLING FOR THE VISUAL SCREENING TO BE PROVIDED ALONG COMMON SIDE AND REAL PROPERTY LINES AND THIS PROPERTY OF THE AREA AERIAL.

AGAIN, IT'S BASICALLY ENCLOSED EXCEPT FOR WHERE THE GATE WOULD BE.

RIGHT. SO IT'S CALLING FOR SCREENING TO BE ALONG HERE.

IF THIS IS IF THESE PROPERTY LINES ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE.

SO THE RESIDENTIAL OCCURS OVER HERE, SO I WOULDN'T APPLY TO FLY.

OK, SO THE SCREENING IS NOT APPLICABLE HERE, SO WE DON'T NEED TO ADDRESS THAT IN SPECIFIC CONDITIONS. YES.

PERFECT. OK, THANK YOU.

I LOVE IT WHEN IT JUST THE LITTLE ISSUE JUST GOES AWAY.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. VICE CHAIR BROWN OF THE ONLY CONSTRUCTION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS JUST A WOOD FENCE.

AND AGAIN, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S NO NO CANOPY OR ROOF TYPE.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF THEY WERE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.

IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.

AND THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ABANDONMENT REQUEST.

SO IF THE ABANDONMENT REQUEST IS APPROVED, THEN THIS BECOMES NULL AND VOID AND THE ABANDONMENT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION IN THAT ALLEYWAY.

OK, THANKS.

ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OK, SEEING NONE.

WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT FOUR THIRTY FOUR P.M.

ON CASE NUMBER TWENTY ONE, DASH ZERO TWO FOUR.

AND DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE? LOOKS LIKE WE DID. YES, WE DO.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR, WE CAN.

WELCOME. THANK YOU.

THIS IS ROBERT DAGNINO FROM SALT-WATER GIFT SHOP.

I'M THE TENANT AND I'M ALSO AUTHORIZED TO ACT ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, ALEX MULTIMILLIONAIRE.

YOU GUYS KIND OF TOOK ALL MY THUNDER AWAY BECAUSE YOU ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS BEFORE I GOT HERE. BUT YES, WE HAVE AN ALREADY CONSTRUCTED AN EIGHT FOOT TALL WOODEN GATE WHICH WILL GO FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.

SO WHATEVER IS IN THAT ALLEY WILL BE COMPLETELY OBSTRUCTED FROM STREET VIEW OR RESIDENT VIEW. WE WE'VE TALKED TO ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT THAT, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE A POSITIVE SUPPORT.

THEY'D MUCH RATHER LOOK AT A PRETTY WOODGATE THAN SORT OF A NASTY OLD DEAD END ALLEY, WHICH HAS PEOPLE OFTEN USING IT AS A RESTROOM FREQUENTLY OR HOUSING OVER THE WINTER.

SO AND REALLY, ALL WE DO INTEND TO DO IS JUST PUSH SURREY'S AND GOLF CARTS IN THERE, STORE THEM OVERNIGHT, AND THEY COME OUT IN THE DAY, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR PRIMARY BUSINESS, IS TO RENT SERIES AND GOLF CARTS.

SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE OTHER THAN WHEEL VEHICLES WHICH COULD EASILY BE REMOVED IF

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OK, GREAT. WE APPRECIATE IT.

COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR, MR. ANTONELLI MR. ANTONELLI IS REALLY NOT A QUESTION, BUT MAYBE FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SEEMS TO BE POPULAR NOW TO HELP BEAUTIFY GALVESTON AND ATTRACT THINGS WOULD BE AS OPPOSED TO JUST LOOKING TO A NICE FENCE, MAYBE PUT A MURAL ON THERE AND GET, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LOCAL ARTISTS INVOLVED AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A TOURIST STOP. I'VE DONE THAT AT A COUPLE OF MY LOCATIONS, AND YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THE PEOPLE THAT STOP AND TAKE PICTURES.

AND SO I'D ALSO BE GOOD ADVERTISING.

SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S SURPRISING THAT YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A MURAL ON THE SIDE OF OUR BUILDING. AND ONCE WE GET THE ABANDONMENT APPROVED, WHICH WE'RE HOPING CITY COUNCIL WILL DO, AND THEY'RE MEETING AT THE END OF THE MONTH, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO GABRIEL, WHO'S THE ARTIST WHO PAINTED THE MURAL ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO CONTINUE THAT MURAL ON DOWN ONTO THE FENCING.

SO THE NEIGHBORS ARE ACTUALLY QUITE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT SEEING WHAT HE'LL DO WITH THE REST OF THE THE CANVAS.

YEAH, I MEAN, HE DID THE SAME FOR ME AND ONE OF MY LOCATIONS AND.

YEAH, GOOD DEAL.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

THERE WE GO. GREAT MINDS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR APPLICANT? OK, GREAT SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING WITH US.

WE'LL MOVE ON NOW.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON TWENTY ONE DASH ZERO TWO FOUR MS. GORMAN. IF ANYONE ON THE CALL HAS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE, THEY CAN USE THE RAYHAN FUNCTION.

SEEING THEM GREAT, WE'LL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS CASE AT FOUR THIRTY EIGHT PM AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

YES, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT TWENTY ONE P ZERO TO FOUR BE ACCEPTED AS WRITTEN. THANK YOU.

A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI.

IS THERE DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER, SEEING NO DISCUSSION? LET'S CALL THE BOTH, PLEASE.

MR. ANTONELLI. I'M IN FAVOR OF JEFFERSON BROWN IN FAVOR OF NOW IN FAVOR OF HOLLAWAY IN FAVOR. PENA IN FAVOR OF WALLA IN FAVOR.

FAVOR THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'VE TURNED INTO OUR LITTLE JOLLI GROUP AGAIN THAT THE CRANKINESS OF PRIE OF WHAT WAS OUR MEETING TO TWO TIMES AGO HAS VANISHED.

[8.B.1. 21P-025 (Vacant Tracts Located East Of Sea Breeze, South Of San Luis Pas Road/FM 3005, And West Of 8 Mile Road)]

TWENTY ONE ZERO TO FIVE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.

TWENTY ONE P DASH ZERO TWO FIVE SUSPECT CONTRACTS LOCATED EAST TO SEABREEZE, SOUTH OF ST.

LOUIS PASS RODEF AND THREE TO FIVE AND WEST OF EIGHT MILE ROAD B B SIDE VILLAGE SECTION SIX. THERE WERE THIRTY SIX PUBLIC NOTICES SENT.

THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS, FROM PRIVATE UTILITIES.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A FINAL PLAN THAT I LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION ON.

THE BACKGROUND SECTION OF THE REPORT STATES THAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN JULY OF TWENTY TWENTY AND THAT ACTUALLY SHOULD BE OCTOBER SIX OF TWENTY TWENTY. UH, DURING THAT TIME, THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WAS THIS APPROVED WITHOUT PREJUDICE SUBJECT TO THE CHANGES, AND THE APPLICANT HAS RESOLVED ALL THOSE CONDITIONS OF THAT PRELIMINARY IMPLATS SUMMARY.

CURRENTLY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO INCORPORATE FOUR POINT FIVE NINE ACRES OF THE SUBJECT TRACT AS PART OF BSI VILLAGE, SECTION SIX EXTEN STARFISH DRIVE AND DEVELOP THE BEACH VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL RESERVE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD THIRTY FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY LOTS TO THE EXISTING TWO HUNDRED AND TEN RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION.

PLEASE, NOT THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS ON PAGE TWO OF YOUR STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS THE ZONING AND LAND USE INFORMATION.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ZONE REGULATIONS ARE DESIGNED PRIMARILY FOR NEW COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION.

SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION IS EXEMPT FROM THE HDD REQUIREMENTS.

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ALL THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED IN ONE OF THE PUBLIC BEACHES, THEREFORE ALL AREAS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE MAIN HIGH TIDE REQUIRE A BEACH FRONT AND PROTECTION CERTIFICATE OR BEACH ACCESS AND EASEMENTS.

THE PROPOSED NEW SECTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY LINEAR FEET OF BEACH, WHICH MEANS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL 10 PARKING SPACES AND THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT TO BE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF O'HANLAN RIGHT AWAY. PLEASE NOTE THE EASEMENTS AND UTILITIES, UTILITIES AND DRAINAGE ON PAGE THREE OF THE REPORT, VARIANCES FROM THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

THIS IS ANOTHER SECTION THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION AND THAT WOULD BE TO THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE, WHICH STATES THAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM STREET RIGHT THE WAY WITH FROM 60 FEET, 50 FEET AFTER ADDITIONAL REVIEW OF THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

THIS REQUIREMENT STAFF IS PROPOSING TO STRIKE THIS REQUIREMENT AS THE TNC REGULATIONS ALLOW FOR LOCAL STREETS TO BE 50 FEET.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A PERMANENT STRIKE WITHOUT A TURNAROUND OF AT LEAST 50 FEET OUTSIDE ST.

RADIUS, AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE FURTHER REVIEW FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY. AS I STATED, AND THERE'S A SUBSTANCE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE, STAFF IS PROPOSING TO STRIKE THE PORTION PERTAINING TO STREET RIGHT AWAY WITH AS THE FINAL PLOT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEAM, THE REGULATIONS FOR STREET RIGHT AWAY WITH UNDER THE LOCAL STREETS. STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS CASE TWENTY ONE P ZERO TO FIVE BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, AND THOSE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ARE LISTED ON YOUR REPORT ONE TO THREE, AND THE STANDARD CONDITIONS ARE LISTED ON YOUR REPORT, FOUR TO 13, 13.

AND NOW WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.

THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT SITE NEXT TO CATHERINE, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST, AND THAT INCLUDES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ADRIAN CAROL, I'M GOING TO ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU JUMP IN, PLEASE. I SEEM TO RECALL, AND I COULD BE WRONG BECAUSE IT WAS OCTOBER AND, WELL, WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ON THIS TURNAROUND, WASN'T THERE A ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOOT RULE ON THAT, THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A TURN AROUND ON A STREET THAT WAS LESS THAN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET LONG? AND THEN THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT THE THE TURNAROUND PART OF THIS LAST TIME. ADRIAN MISHAEL.

YES. SO SO SO TYPICALLY THE VERY STRICT REQUIREMENTS ARE PRIMARILY FOR FREE ACCESS.

SO IN THIS CASE, A FIRE MARSHAL DID NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.

AND THAT THAT WOULD BE CORRECT BECAUSE STREET-PORTER OF ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET IN LENGTH ARE SUFFICIENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS.

HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT THE CASE UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, ARTICLE SIX OR THE T IN THE REGULATION. THAT'S WHY HE'S BROUGHT FORWARD, HAS A SUBSTANTIAL REVIEW FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE. OK, SO WE HAVE THE VARIANCES FROM THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND THE FIRST LINE IS CUT, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH MINIMUM RIGHT OF WAY.

THE SECOND THING WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS THIS TURNAROUND, THIS TURNAROUND RULE.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND THEN IS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN OTHER SECTIONS OF THIS SUBDIVISION AS WELL.

OK, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, YOU HAD A QUESTION OR STAFF.

YES, THANK YOU.

NOW I'M REALLY CONFUSED, OK? I THINK THIS QUESTION IS FOR DONNA.

COULD BE FOR ADRIAN, WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER IT.

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NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE A PLAN WITH AN ALTERNATIVE STANDARD OF COMPLIANCE.

BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER SECTION OF THAT SECTION SIX POINT ONE HUNDRED FOUR POINT B THAT SAID THIS SECTION DOESN'T APPLY TO REQUIRED WITTS FOR STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND ALLEYS, WHICH MEANS I TOOK IT TO MEAN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DEVIATE.

AND THEN ANOTHER SECTION THAT I READ WAS SIX POINT THREE ZERO THREE B THAT DISCUSSES BOUNDARY STREETS AND HOW IF THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS PARTIALLY OR TOTALLY BOUNDED BY EXISTING STREETS OR RIGHTS OF WAY AND HAVE LESS WITH LESS THAN SPECIFIED IN THESE REGULATIONS, THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE LAID OUT TO PROVIDE THE STREET WITH REQUIRED.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANT.

SO I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SOME CLARIFICATION OF THE TERMINOLOGY IN THE ARTICLE AND HOW THAT APPLIES TO TODAY'S CASE.

I CAN ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU.

SO COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY SO THAT YOUR INTERPRETATION WILL BE CORRECT PERTAINING TO PERTAINING TO THE REQUIREMENTS, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR STREET SIDEWALKS AND ALLEYS THAT DO NOT APPLY IN THIS CASE, THAT WOULD BE THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION.

HOWEVER, BASED ON BASED ON THE FACT THAT DURING THE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL PROCESS, WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO YOU GUYS.

THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO YOU GUYS FOR REVIEW, HOW YOU KNOW.

BUT IN FURTHER REVIEW OF THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD STANDARDS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS SUBDIVISION IS CURRENTLY ZONED, WE STAFF HAS COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS PROVISION DOES NOT APPLY BECAUSE THE T IN THE SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT LOCAL STREETS COULD BE LESS THAN 50. AND THERE ARE THERE ARE SEVERAL PROVISIONS WITHIN THAT WITHIN THAT WITHIN THOSE REGULATIONS. HOW ABOUT THE BOUNDARY STREETS? BECAUSE I TOOK THAT TO MEAN THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONFORM WITH THE EXISTING DESIGN.

FOR THE EXPANDED DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT WILL BE CORRECT, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE STRICT STANDARDS, ALL OF THE STRICT STANDARDS ARE GOVERNED BY THE REGULATIONS IN THAT ARTICLE SIX. THAT MAKES SENSE.

OK, NOW IT DOES.

THANK YOU. IF IT WAS ENFORCED, ANY OTHER SUBDIVISION IN TOWN THAT IS NOW ZONE 10 OR 20, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

OK, SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THOSE RATHER THAN LOOKING AT THE SUBDIVISION DESIGN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT ARTICLE, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. BUT IT COULD ALSO BE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.

OK, BUT IN THIS CASE, PARTICULARLY FOR STRICT STANDARDS IN THE SUBDIVISION, REGULATIONS APPLY. OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OF COURSE. OK, CAROL, DID THAT CLEAR UP EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAD A QUESTION ON? YES, I ASSUME SO, YES.

OK, GREAT COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, COMMISSIONER BROWN? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND THE PARKING ISSUE, THEY ALREADY HAVE TWO HUNDRED AND NINE SPACES AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 10 MORE. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. AND THOSE 10 ARE GOING TO PARK PARALLEL WANGO ALONG THAT PARK, RIGHT? YES, OUR LONG LINE, YES.

OK. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE THERE IN THE, I GUESS, PART OF THAT SURVEY THAT WAS CUT OFF, BUT I DIDN'T SEE RESERVE HALF ON THERE.

I GOT I COUNTED ALL THE OTHER ONES WHERE IT WAS RESERVE PART OF THE CUT OFF MAYBE.

SO LET ME LET ME A SECOND HERE TO ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THAT DOCUMENT.

AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ON THE LINE SO THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION

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HAVE.

ON THE. HOUSE.

MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST ASK THEM WHEN THEY COME UP.

I PULLED UP THE ORIGINAL CASE A DRILL? YES, MA'AM. AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING IT TO A DIGITAL CASE.

HAD MORE OF ALL OF THIS ON THERE.

SO COMMISSION VICE CHAIR BROWN, WHICH IS IT WAS FINE.

I THINK I FOUND IT.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT HERE.

WHERE I'M SHARING MY SCREEN.

OH, AND THE END AT THE END OF EACH SIDE TRIUMPH, THAT IS OK.

IT'S A LITTLE MESSY.

IT'S A LANDSCAPE. YES, OK.

AND I GUESS THE VARIANCES THAT THEY'RE WANTING FOR THOSE WINS AND ALL THAT IS SO THEY CAN MATCH THE EXISTING STREET, WHICH ON THE ON THE ONLY EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHTY, NUN, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT FOUR FIFTY TWO P.M.

FOR CASE TWENTY ONE, DASH ZERO TO FIVE, AND THEN WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD FROM THEM EARLIER.

AND SO WE HAVE THE REINHART'S ON THE LINE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT YOU ENSURED THAT I WILL NOT BE VISITING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU SAID PARALLEL PARKING.

SO Y'ALL DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.

Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ME, DEBBIE, OK? RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? JUST THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO DO THIS FINAL PHASE OF BEACHSIDE VILLAGE.

AND WE'RE WE'RE WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE HELP THAT STAFF HAS GIVEN US.

AND WE WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

AND I BELIEVE STEVE SHULTS, OUR ATTORNEY, IS ALSO HERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN SEPARATELY, BUT HE IS HERE ON OUR BEHALF AS WELL. OK, GREAT.

IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT REQUIRE HIM.

KATHERINE, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT I THINK, MR. SCHULTZ, IF YOU'RE THERE, IF WE NEED YOU, IF YOU'LL JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND DO THE RIGHT HAND FUNCTION AND THEN MS., GORMAN, CAN YOU COMMISSIONERS' DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR, COMMISSIONER WALLA, JUST A COMMENT.

I SAW THIS I GUESS THIS CAME UP RIGHT WHEN I GOT ON RIGHT BEFORE I GOT ON PLANNING COMMISSION. IT WAS IN THE SUMMER AND I WENT BY THERE.

AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A PAT ON THE BACK.

THAT'S A NICE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING, BUT WHEN I GOT THERE, I WAS GREETED AT THE ENTRANCE. I WAS GIVEN A MAP TO KNOW WHERE I COULD PARK.

I WAS TOLD HOW I COULD GET TO THE BEACH.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT? MY HAT'S OFF TO YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT.

WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE SIR, WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE TRY TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AND RESPECTFUL AS WE CAN.

GREAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

ANYONE ELSE? OH, YES, MR. HOLLAWAY, I JUST I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE ONLY VARIANCE OR ANOMALY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW FROM THE STANDARD PLAT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TURN AROUND AT THE END OF THE OF A STREET.

RIGHT. THAT'S ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT.

YES. AND I AND I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, THAT THAT WAS ADDRESSED AT THE PRELIMINARY KLATT.

AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, THE FIRE MARSHAL DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS.

OK, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY, COMMISSIONERS.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

AND THEN WE'LL SAY THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ANYONE ELSE WHO IS ON THE LINE, CATHERINE, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IF YOU DO RAISE YOUR HAND, USE THE RAISED HAND FUNCTION, I SHOULD SAY, SEEING THEM.

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M. AND WE'LL CALL AND WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON TWENTY ONE POINT ZERO TO FIVE MR. ANTONELLI. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TWENTY ONE POINT ZERO TO FIVE SECONDS.

WE'VE GOT A SECOND FROM THE DUELING HANDS, COMMISSIONER WALLA AND VICE CHAIR BROWN.

SO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY? IT'S JUST A POINT OF ADMINISTRATION.

DO WE NEED TO STAY IN OUR MOTION THAT WE'RE ELIMINATING THE FIRST? VARIANCE, THE POINT OF VARIANCE.

I'LL DEFER, WE'LL LET DONNA ANSWER THAT.

HOW DO WE NEED TO HANDLE THAT ONE, DONNA? WELL, THAT HAS BEEN CORRECT OR WILL BE CORRECTED ON THE STAFF REPORT.

IT'S IN THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE'RE ALL HEARING.

SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN THERE OFFICIALLY SAYING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CORRECTION, THAT'S FINE.

NO HARM, NO FOUL.

IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE TOO MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

OK, THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN THERE, THAT'S FINE.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY, THAT WAS REALLY THAT WAS GOOD TO GET CLARIFIED. BUT IF ARE YOU FINE WITH IT NOT BEING IN THERE, IF LEGAL HAS TOLD US THAT, WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE TO MR. HOLLAWAY? NO, IT'S NOT MY MOTION.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO BE YOU CAN MR. ANTONELLI FROM A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, COMMISSIONER ANTONELLI.

I'M FINE WITH IT AS IT IS.

I TRUST DUNAM LEGAL TO HANDLE IT.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HE TRUSTEE. YEAH.

THERE YOU GO. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.

ALL RIGHTY. SEEING NONE.

LET'S CALL THE VOTE PLEASE.

MR.. ANTONELLI. I'M IN FAVOR OF SAMPAS AND BROWN IN FAVOR AND PERSONAL, IN FAVOR OF HOLLAWAY IN FAVOR, PENA IN FAVOR OF WALLA IN FAVOR, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.

REINHART'S GO FORTH AND BUILD.

[9.A. Discussion Of City Council Adopted Policy On In-Person Commission Meetings (Staff)]

MS. GORMAN. YES, WE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE THE GUIDANCE THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED FOR THE RETURN TO PUBLIC MEETING.

THE CITY COUNCIL THEMSELVES HAVE RETURNED TO I'M SORRY, NOT IN PUBLIC MEETINGS, FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS, FOR IN-PERSON MEETING.

AND SO THEY HAVE RETURNED TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS OR THEIR 5:00 REGULAR MEETING.

THEIR WORKSHOPS STILL CONTINUES TO BE VIRTUAL.

SO THE COUNCIL HAS ESTABLISHED THESE GUIDELINES AND IT IS UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DECIDE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO RETURN TO IN-PERSON THE WAY THE.

GUIDANCE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IT IS IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO MEET TOGETHER IN ROOM TWO OR FOUR, WHICH IS THE WORKSHOP ROOM NEXT TO CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS WITH ONE STAFF MEMBER PRESENT.

SO THE PUBLIC, THE APPLICANTS AND THE CASE MANAGERS WOULD CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING VIRTUALLY. AND THAT MEETING WOULD HAVE TO STILL CONTINUE TO BE UNDER ONE HOUR, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS PART OF THE CDC GUIDANCE, IS THAT MEETINGS SHOULD ONLY BE LIMITED TO ONE HOUR. OK.

I WILL SAY, AND THIS IS WHAT I SAID AT THE OTHER COMMISSIONS, THIS IS STILL A FLUID TYPE OF ISSUE. SO I DO ENVISION CHANGES WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS.

SO THIS IS A FLUID TYPE OF SITUATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH, CATHERINE AND DONNA.

MY THOUGHT ON THIS IS THAT THE NEXT TIME WE MEET, WE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT STANDARD TO LOOK AT AND REVIEW COUNCIL IS ABLE TO MAKE MORE OR LESS IN A ONE HOUR TIME SPAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY HAD A WORKSHOP BEFOREHAND THAT HAS GONE ON FOR A LONG TIME AND IT HAS BEEN VIRTUAL.

OUR AS WE SAID LAST TIME, OUR AVERAGE MEETING TIME, AVERAGE MEETING TIME IS AN HOUR AND TWENTY TWO MINUTES.

TODAY WE'VE BEEN ADDED AN HOUR AND A HALF WITH A RELATIVELY LIGHT AGENDA.

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AND I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY, THAT'S THE PART THAT I MS. THAT I THINK IS MOST MISSING FOR US IS TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON AND AT THE MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE GET A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK.

SO MY THOUGHT AT THIS TIME AND EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF CHIME IN, SAY YOUR PIECE, WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO MEET VIRTUALLY UNTIL SOME PORTION OF THIS IS.

RELAXED A LITTLE BIT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL GUIDANCE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, AND WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THEIR PART ON THIS AS COMMISSIONER FISCHER BROWN? I THINK THAT THESE GUIDELINES ARE IMPRACTICAL AND CAN'T BE DONE AS LONG AS IT A ONE HOUR LIMIT. WE JUST CAN'T DO OUR JOB IN AN HOUR.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

I ALSO AGREE THAT I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME NEW GUIDELINES COME OUT VERY SOON.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU TO SIT ON IT UNTIL WE GET SOME NEW GUIDELINES WHERE WE CAN BE WITHOUT TIME RESTRICTIONS. OK, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WALLA.

I KNOW THAT YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP TO, SIR.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I AGREE WITH YOU, JEFFREY.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST RECENTLY MADE A CHANGE TO TRY AND GET MORE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.

BUT I DO AGREE, UNTIL WE CAN GET THE PUBLIC IN FRONT OF US, I MEAN, IT DOES CHANGE.

IT'S DIFFERENT. AND I I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES THE PUBLIC A MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION, I THINK, WHEN THEY'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF US.

SO UNTIL THEN, I THINK IT'S GOING TO DO THE BEST WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE'RE MAKING AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE IT. BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT.

DOES ANYBODY. OK, COMMISSIONER HOLLAWAY.

I AGREE WITH YOU, JEFFREY, THERE'S NO POINT IN US HAVING A ALIVE MEETING OR IN-PERSON MEETING IF WE CAN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC TALKING TO US.

I MEAN, POSSIBLY THEY COULD HAVE A TELEVISED TRANSMISSION OR SOMETHING.

I JUST I'M NOT SEEING IT RIGHT NOW, CONSIDERING OUR CASELOAD, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY WILL BE VACCINATED AND KNOW FREE TO MOVE ABOUT THE COUNTRY.

BUT I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF WHEN I SAY THAT I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE NOW RETURNING SOMEWHAT, BUT NOT IN ANY LARGE NUMBER.

SO I THINK I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK WE JUST STICK IT OUT FOR A WHILE.

OK, THANK YOU. AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL AND HOW THEY WANT US TO TO MOVE FORWARD.

I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT RUSHING OUR MEETINGS, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE RUSHED TO BE UNDER THAT ONE HOUR THAT UNDER THE ONE HOUR LIMIT, BECAUSE THEN WE RUSH WHAT LITTLE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE AND WHAT LITTLE INTERACTION WE HAVE EVEN ON A WEB BASIS.

LET'S SEE. ANYTHING ELSE FROM COMMISSIONER PENA OR MR. ANTONELLI ON THAT NOW.

OK. SO, CATHERINE, THAT I GUESS LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'LL BE WAITING FOR ANOTHER SIMILAR REPORT THAT SO WE DON'T HAVE A RECURRING AGENDA ITEM.

MAYBE IT CAN BE A DISCUSSION OF CHANGES TO THE IN-PERSON POLICY NEXT TIME, OK? YES, ABSOLUTELY. IF COUNCIL HAS ANY DISCUSSION OR ADOPTS ANY NEW POLICY, WE'LL PUT IT ON FOR YOUR NEXT AGENDA.

OTHERWISE, WE'LL WAIT TILL IT'S GERMANE.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY NEED TO ADD? SEEING NOTHING, WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED AT FIVE 00, FIVE P.M., AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND WE'LL SEE EACH OTHER.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL RESPONSES.

VERY THANKFUL. THANK YOU.

DONNA.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.