[FOREIGN] [ Landmark Commission on May 3, 2021.] [00:10:41] >> THAT IS GENERALLY IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] PROPERTY [INAUDIBLE] [00:10:53] >> YES, JOANNE? [00:10:54] >> I REALLY DON'T WANT US TO OPEN THE FLOODGATE [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] ALARM [INAUDIBLE] HIGHER AND HIGHER, AND UNLESS WE KNOW THAT THE PROPERTIES ON THAT AREA ISN'T FLOODED. MY HOUSE WASN'T THE NIGHT [INAUDIBLE] AND IT JUST FLOODED THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] FEET ABOVE THE GROUND LEVEL FROM A BLOCK AWAY. THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE DOESN'T NEED THAT TO SURVIVE THE NEXT STORM. HOWEVER, I DON'T LIKE TO SAY DON'T EVER DO IT BECAUSE SOME OF THE HOUSES ARE ALREADY THREE STORIES HIGH JUST FROM THE 1990S STORM, SO I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY ARE IN RELATION TO THE OTHER HOUSES AND IF THOSE HOUSES HAVE BEEN FLOODED [INAUDIBLE] THEY WERE. I THINK THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS, BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. >> IT DOESN'T MAKE IT, THE PROPOSED [INAUDIBLE] IN LINE WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSES ARE? >> RIGHT. >> [INAUDIBLE] ONE ADDITIONAL [INAUDIBLE] SINCE YOU ALREADY KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] THE ELEVATION. [INAUDIBLE] WE IMPLEMENTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO FOR THAT A BUILT-IN METHODOLOGY TO HANDLE SEA LEVEL RISES [INAUDIBLE] >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> NO. I WANT TO JUST DISCUSS IT A LITTLE BIT. I ACTUALLY AM GOING TO VOTE FOR IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE AWARE OF AND WATCH [INAUDIBLE]. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? HEARING NONE. I'LL GO FOR A VOTE ON THE [INAUDIBLE] >> COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER HUDDLESTON? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER LANG? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER MCLEAN? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER WOOD? >> IN FAVOR. >> ALL IN FAVOR. THE MOTION PASSES. >> MOVING ON. >> I'M SORRY. I WAS MAKING A COMMENT, BUT IT APPEARED THAT MY COMPUTER WASN'T WORKING WITH ME. CATHY, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. KNOWING THAT THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING FOR WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IS SIGNIFICANT, WHY CAN'T ANY BUILDING, THOSE PLANS WILL HAVE TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY SO THAT THEY'RE CONFORMING TO WHAT'S BEEN ALLOWED, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. THE NEXT STEP WILL BE FOR THEM TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT, AND WE'LL DO A HISTORIC REVIEW DURING THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [NOISE] >> VERY GOOD. NEXT CASE, 21MC-013. >> IT'S AT 1701 M 1/2. IT'S A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING WINDOW REPLACEMENT AND MODIFICATION. AT THE APRIL 19TH, 2021 LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING, THE REQUEST WAS DENIED [INAUDIBLE] THE REQUEST IS FOR SECURITY INAPPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING WINDOW REPLACEMENT AND MODIFICATION. AFTER THE CORRECTION ON DECEMBER 4TH THE [INAUDIBLE] THE PUBLIC NOTICE [INAUDIBLE] WILL RETURN. IN JANUARY OF 2020, THE OWNERS FILED A LANDMARK COMMISSION APPLICATION FOR RETAINING THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE WINDOWS OR RAILINGS PERFORMED WITHOUT A PERMIT. IN JANUARY 30, 2020 LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING, THE REQUEST WAS DENIED WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE HOUSE BE [00:15:01] RETURNED TO ITS PREVIOUS APPEARANCE WITHIN SIX MONTHS. THE WORK WAS NOT COMPLETED BY THE DEADLINE [INAUDIBLE]. THE APPLICANT ONLY APPLIES TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO RETAIN THE WORK THAT WAS PERFORMED TO THE WINDOWS WITHOUT PERMIT [INAUDIBLE] OF THE HOUSE BEFORE AND AFTER THE WORK THE COMMUNITY [INAUDIBLE] STAFF REPORT AND THE WINDOWS ARE ONE OVER ONE LIGHT CONFIGURATION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RETAIN THE WINDOWS AND [INAUDIBLE] IN ADDITION TO THE WINDOW INDICATED IN THE APPLICATION, THE STAFF CITED [INAUDIBLE] ACCORDING TO THE STAFF REPORT, AND ARE THE DESIGN STANDARDS ACCORDING TO OUR PROPERTIES. CONFORMANCE. THE STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS. THE DESIGN STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT VINYL WINDOW IS NOT TO BE USED, AND ANY NEW WINDOWS SHOULD MATCH THE DESIGN OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND NOT TO REUSE THE DESIGN OF [INAUDIBLE] THE STAFF APPRECIATES THE APPLICANT'S SUGGESTION OF APPLYING AN EXTERIOR [INAUDIBLE] MODIFICATION FOR THE WINDOWS [INAUDIBLE] THE DESIGN STANDARDS ALSO STATE THAT THE NECESSARY MODIFICATION [INAUDIBLE] DESIGN OF THE EXISTING ROOM. DUE TO NONCONFORMANCE WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THE APPLICANT MADE THE DESIGN WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: ONE, THAT ALL WINDOWS [INAUDIBLE] IN SIX MONTHS [INAUDIBLE] AND TWO, WHICH IS THE STANDARD [INAUDIBLE]. >> SUBJECT PROPERTY. [INAUDIBLE] >> ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 21MC-013. ASK IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. >> IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT IF THEY COULD USE THE "RAISE YOUR HAND" FUNCTION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN TO INDICATED THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK. [NOISE] HEARING NONE FOR IT. >> ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE SAME?. >> THAT'S THE SAME. IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY CAN USE THE "RAISE YOUR HAND" FUNCTION. HEARING NONE. >> IN THAT CASE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 21LC-013 AND BRING IT BACK TO COMMISSION. DENIED CASE 21LC-013. >> BACK AT THAT. >> HEARING A SECOND FROM WOOD. KEY DISCUSSION, COMMENT? SEEING NONE, I'LL OFFER A VOTE ON THE MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER WANG? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER MCWAYNE? COMMISSIONER MCWAYNE, YOU'RE MUTED. >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER PADDISON? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER WOOD? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER SWANSON? >> IN FAVOR. >> ALL IN FAVOR. THE MOTION COUNTS. >> WE REALLY WENT OUT TO A NEW [INAUDIBLE] PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE 21LC-016. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. 21LC-016 IS 1524 CHURCH [INAUDIBLE]. [00:20:09] IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ADD SOLAR PANELS. THERE WERE SEVEN PUBLIC NO'S SENT, ONE OF THOSE RETURNED IN FAVOR. THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMIT FOR 5024 CHURCH ELECTRICAL PERMIT WAS SUBMITTED MARCH OF 2021. ONE OF THE ELECTRICAL PERMITS WAS APPROVED. THE PROJECT STILL MAY NOT PROCEED UNTIL LANDMARK COMMISSION APPROVAL. LANDMARK COMMISSION APPLICATION WAS SUBSEQUENTLY SUBMITTED. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL IN ORDER TO INSTALL SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF OF PUBLIC PROPERTY. THE SLIDE PLAN SHOWS THE FRONT ROOF SECTION WITH 10 PANEL FACING SOUTH TOWARD CHURCH STREET, THREE PANELS FACING EAST TOWARDS THE JOINT PRIVATE THE PROPERTY, 20 PANELS FACING WEST TOWARD MAJORITY OF PRIVATE PROPERTY. PLANS ARE INCLUDED IN THE [INAUDIBLE] STAFF REPORTS. ALSO, PLEASE NOTE THE APPLICABLE LINE STANDARD. THE STRUCTURE IS TWO STORIES WITH THE HIP ROOF ON ALL SIDES. THE PANELS ARE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE PART, PARTIALLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. THEY'RE NOT REALLY VERY VISIBLE AT ALL FROM THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE OF TREES AND ADJACENT HOUSES. STAFF RECOMMENDS SOLAR PANELS ON THE WEST SIDE IS STRUCTURED BE LOCATED FURTHER FROM THE STREET TOWARD THE REAR OF THE HOUSE AWAY FROM THE STREET AS FAR AS POSSIBLE. STAFF ALSO HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PANELS FACING DOWN TOWARDS CHURCH STREET. WHILE IT'S STILL ON ORIENTATION, STILL WE PREFER FOR SOLAR PANELS, THIS LOCATION IS HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. IDEALLY, THOSE PANELS BE ADMITTED ALTOGETHER OR RELOCATED TO A LESS VISIBLE ROOF THING IF POSSIBLE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL REQUEST UPON SUBMISSION. THE APPLICANT SHALL CONFORM TO THE DESIGN MATERIAL AND PLACEMENT INDICATED IN THE [INAUDIBLE] APPLICATION IS SOLAR PANELS FACING WEST, SO WE MOVE AS FAR NORTH TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE AS POSSIBLE. SOLAR PANELS ON THE FRONT ROOF SECTIONS SHALL BE RELOCATED TO A LESS VISIBLE LOCATION AND IF RELOCATION IS NOT FEASIBLE, IN THIS CASE, OF COURSE, IT MEANS FACE THE CHURCH STREET WITHOUT. C, THE SOLAR PANEL FINISH SHALL BE MATTE BLACK IN COLOR PLUS [INAUDIBLE] CONDITIONS 2-6, I'M SORRY, IN THE PROPOSED. HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WORTH IT. THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE PLAN ON THAT REPORT SHOWING THE SOLAR PANELS ON THE WEST SIDE AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF 3C THERE AND THEN THE OTHER 10 FACING SOUTH TOWARDS CHURCH STREET. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS THE SOUTH FACING ROOF AS YOU WOULD SEE LOOKING MORE OF ACROSS THE STREET. ANOTHER PHOTO LOOKING EAST FROM WEST SIDE. THEN FROM THE STREET ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE LOOKING BACK TOWARD THE WEST. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. PROPERTY TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH, TO THE WEST, AND THIS IS THE REPORT. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ROOF PLAN, MA'AM? THANK YOU. THEY HAVE A WHOLE EASTERN FACING ROOF PLAN THAT'S IN THE BACKYARD, GATHER A LOT OF SOUTHERN SUN. SEEMS LIKE THEY COULD RELOCATE THOSE SOUTHERN FACING PANELS IN THAT AREA. JUST A THOUGHT. THERE IS THAT EXTENSION OF THE HOUSE THAT GOES INTO THE BACKYARD OF THAT EXTENSION THAT GOES WAY BACK. YEAH, THAT ROOF LINE RIGHT THERE. WITH PANELS THERE, THEY CAN MAKE UP FOR THOSE SOUTH FACING PANELS BY PUTTING THEM BACK THERE. >> I THINK SO, WE CAN ADD A FEW PANELS. [BACKGROUND] >> RIGHT. PUSH THOSE BACK. I AGREE. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTION? THEN I'LL OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING. [INAUDIBLE] [00:25:05] >> [INAUDIBLE]. YOU SHOULD BE UNMUTED NOW. >> HELLO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, HOW ARE YOU? I'M WITH FREEDOM FOREVER THE SOLAR CONTRACTOR. THE ONLY COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT I'M CERTAIN THAT WE DID ALSO PROVIDE A 10 PERCENT WHAT WE CALL A PD WATCH REPORT. IF WE WERE TO RELOCATE THOSE PANELS FROM THE FRONT BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THOSE WOULD BE OF CONCERN FOR THE AESTHETICS, THAT IT WOULD PRECLUDE THE PRODUCTION AND ENGINEERED BY 10 PERCENT OR MORE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN THAT CAMPAIGN TO RELOCATE, AND YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT AS FAR AS THE SOUTH OR THE EAST SIDE BEING SOMEWHAT IS WONDERFUL AS THE SOUTH, BUT THE SOUTH IS THE DOMINANT SIDE FOR PRODUCTION. WE'VE ALREADY UPGRADED THE HOMEOWNER TO AN EXTREMELY EFFICIENT PANEL TO TRY TO MINIMIZE WHAT PANELS WE DO USE. THAT FAR EXTENSION OF THE BACK THERE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOES HAVE A LOT OF VENTS COMING UP IN IT WHICH WOULD HAVE GET [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COVER THEM. THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IN AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IS THAT THESE SOLAR PANELS HAVE AN EXTREMELY LOW PROFILE. IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE THEM FROM STREET LEVEL, YOU HAVE TO BE EITHER ON THE PORCH OR ON THE SIDEWALK OF THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET TO EVEN THE ABLE AND GLANCE THEM. THEN THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE PROPERTY, YOU CAN BARELY SEE A GLAMOUR OF THEM, ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SHOVING THEM AS FAR NORTH AS YOU'RE STATING. THAT WOULD PRECLUDE BEING EVEN THE FIFTH LEVEL. BUT I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TRYING TO REMOVE AND RELOCATE, BUT IT WOULD DECREASE THE PRODUCTION BY OVER 10 PERCENT. >> THANK YOU. VERY WELL. >> THEN IF WE COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC RAISE THEIR HAND IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING. SEEING NONE. >> I'LL CLOSE HE PUBLIC HEARING. [INAUDIBLE] >>YES. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THINGS. WHEN WE WENT LP-161524 CHURCH, WITCHCRAFT RECOMMENDATION. >> [BACKGROUND] JUST A MINUTE. >> I CAN VOTE. >>WE ARE IN DISCUSSION WITH GOVERNMENT. >>YOU ARE MUTED. >> I JUST WANTED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON. >> THE MOTION? >> WHAT THE STEPS ARE. [OVERLAPPING] >> [INAUDIBLE] IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PANEL ON THE FRONT OF THE ROOF BE MOVED TO THE BACK AND THE ONES ON THE SOUTH BE PUSHED BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO A LESS VISIBLE LOCATION. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> I AM GOING TO COMMENT THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT FRONT, I THINK, PRETTY CLEARLY WHEN YOU GO UP AND DOWN THE NORTH-SOUTH STREET. IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER WHEN YOU ARE ON THE STREET PROBABLY ON THAT [INAUDIBLE] ACROSS THE STREETS OR GOING UP AND DOWN. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE AVOID HAVING THOSE PANELS FROM THE VERY FRONT. WHATEVER [NOISE] THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. >> I'VE WALKED DOWN THE STREETS AS WELL. [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] >> WELL, WE HAVE HAD WITH YOUR PRECEDENTS AND EVERY CASE THAT HAS COME BEFORE US, SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE LANDMARK WHICH IS FIVE YEARS THAT IT'S VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, IT IS NOT ALLOWED. [00:30:02] WHAT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A RESTRICTIVE VERDICT, IT IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD. [INAUDIBLE] I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT, MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO FOLLOW. >> ANY OTHER COMMENT? THINK NONE WE'LL GO FOR A VOTE ON THE MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER HUDDLESTON? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER LANG? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER MCLEAN? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER WOOD? >>IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER SWANSON. >> IN FAVOR. >> ALL IN FAVOR, THE MOTION PASSES. >> IN THAT CASE [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE] EIGHT NOTICES WHERE DRAWN, ZERO RETURNED. [INAUDIBLE] RENOVATING PARTS OF THE HOUSE. AT ONE POINT WE CONVERTED THE BACK UPSTAIRS DOOR INTO A WINDOW FOR OUR BATHROOM. I HAD TO TAKE OFF [INAUDIBLE]. AS HE DID SO, [INAUDIBLE] NOW HOLDINGS IS THE OLD SQUARE MALE HOLDING SCAR INTO THE WOODS AFTER [INAUDIBLE] , CEDAR AND ALSO IF IT WOULD MATCH ANY SQUARE NAIL. HERE IS AN ARTISTIC RENDERING OF THE HOUSE [INAUDIBLE] AND IF YOU REALLY SEE, CARVINGS ON THE WINDOW AT. I HOPE THE ORIGINAL STARS AND CARVING HAVE BEEN PRESERVED SO THEY CAN [INAUDIBLE]. IN THE SUMMARY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO REMOVE DECORATED TRIM, DECORATIVE TRIM CONSISTS OF SCARS AND SCHOOL WORK LOCATED ABOVE THE WINDOW AND DOORS. PLEASE NOTE THAT [INAUDIBLE] THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED INFORMATION THAT THE DECORATIVE TRIM IS NOT ORIGINAL [INAUDIBLE] METAL IS INCLUDED IN THE GRAPHIC. ATTACHMENT INCLUDES PHOTOGRAPHS FROM THE STAFF RECORDS TAKEN BY THE PLAINTIFFS HAD WHICH [INAUDIBLE] PLEASE NOTE, THE DESIGN STANDARDS RESTORING PROPERTY [INAUDIBLE] COMMENTS, STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS. HERE'S A PHOTO PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, IN PLAINTIFFS PAGE, DOES NOT CLEARLY INDICATE THE ORIGINAL APPEARANCE OF THE HOUSE AND UP HERE IS HISTORIC EVIDENCE THAT MORE WORK [INAUDIBLE] MY RECOMMENDATIONS, DUE TO A NON-CONFORMANCE WITH THE CLIENT'S STANDARDS, [INAUDIBLE]. HOWEVER, SHOULD THE LANDMARK COMMISSION FIND THE PLACE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH DESIGN STANDARDS. [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, CURRENT CONDITION. THIS IS A PICTURE FROM 2015, HERE ARE THE DECORATIVE ITEMS IN QUESTION [INAUDIBLE] PICTURE SUBMITTED BY A CHAIRPERSON HUDDLESTON FROM THE GALVESTON ARCHITECT GUIDEBOOK PUBLISHED IN 1996. THE DECORATIVE FRAME WAS THERE AT THAT TIME. [INAUDIBLE]. >>ANY QUESTIONS? [INAUDIBLE] BEING DONE I WILL GO TO PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE [INAUDIBLE] >> [INAUDIBLE] PRESENT. WE WELL [INAUDIBLE] YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOUR PHONE AND THEN SPEAK. [00:35:01] ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK? YOU ARE NOT HEARING ANYTHING ON OUR END? SIR, ARE YOU ABLE UNMUTE YOU, I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU ARE ON YOUR COMPUTER OR ON YOUR TELEPHONE. IF YOU ARE ON YOUR TELEPHONE YOU MIGHT PRESS STAR SIX, [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT COULD UNMUTE YOU. >> IS THERE ANY WAY TO CALL THE NUMBER THAT HE'S LISTED? [OVERLAPPING]. >> WITHIN FORMAT, THE APPLICANTS REGISTER BEFOREHAND AND I SEE HIM HERE AS AN ATTENDEE AND HAVE ENABLED HIM TO SPEAK AND UNMUTED HIM ON OUR END, SO I AM NOT SURE WHAT ELSE IS STOPPING HIM. >> I DO NOT KNOW IF HE CAN TYPE INTO THE CHAT BOX. [INAUDIBLE]. >> THAT'S CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY. >> LET'S DO THIS, IF THE COMMISSIONERS AMENABLE [INAUDIBLE] I SEE THAT HE IS HERE. EITHER MAYBE IT CAN BE TABLED FOR A FEW MINUTES [INAUDIBLE] IF THERE IS A COMMUNICATION MATTER OR [INAUDIBLE]. MAYBE THIS MATTER CAN BE TABLED UNTIL AFTER THE NEXT CASE BUT THAT JUST A SUGGESTION, THIS IS A NEW FORMAT AND I DO NOT WANT TO DENY ANYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF THEY'RE HAVE COMPUTER ISSUES. >> LET'S GIVE HIM ANOTHER 30 SECONDS. [INAUDIBLE] I AM SORRY. >> I AM JUST GOING TO TRY SOMETHING. IT IS CALLED PROMOTE TO PANELISTS AND THAT PUTS THE APPLICANT INTO THE MEETING. LET'S SEE IF THAT HELPS. IF THE APPLICANT IS NOW IN THE MEETING FOR FULL PARTICIPANT [OVERLAPPING]. >> HE SENT A MESSAGE STATING THAT I CANNOT UNMUTE. MAYBE THIS WILL JUST HELP. DOES HE HAVE IT IN GALLERY VIEW WHERE HE CAN UNMUTE? >> YEAH, HE'S UNMUTED ON OUR END SO IT COULD BE THAT HE NEEDS TO UNMUTE ON HIS END. ON YOUR COMPUTER, YOU JUST PRESS UNMUTE, IF YOU ARE ON YOUR TELEPHONE YOU CAN PRESS STAR SIX. >> YOU SHOULD TRY IT SIX TIMES. I TRIED STAR SIX. >> THE ONLY THING I CAN SUGGEST IS PERHAPS SIGNING OUT AND SIGN BACK IN AGAIN AND SEE IF THAT MAKES IT ANY DIFFERENT. >> I CANNOT SEE. >> YOU SAID ''OKAY. '' >> YEAH, THAT. ALSO ON THE Q&A, YOU ALL, SAYING HE CANNOT UNMUTE, SORRY. >> OKAY, DO YOU WANT A TABLE, THIS SPACE WHEN WE WHEN WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN THAT IN? [00:40:04] YEAH, I NEED A [INAUDIBLE] FOR NOW. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> YEAH. [INAUDIBLE]. >> ANYTHING LIKE A NOTION. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK. >> [INAUDIBLE] THE DISCUSSION [INAUDIBLE]. >> MR. [INAUDIBLE]. >> FAVOR. >> MR. HALSTON? >> FAVOR. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> MR. HARRISON? >> IN FAVOR. >> MR. WOOD. >> IN FAVOR. >> MR. [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]. >> [INAUDIBLE] A SECOND? MR. [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT THE PROCEDURAL OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT. >> WE DIDN'T COMPLETE THE VOTE BUT I THINK [INAUDIBLE] IF WE JUST [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN JUST CONTINUE WITH THE PROCEDURE. [INAUDIBLE] >> ALL RIGHT. I WILL PIN [INAUDIBLE]. >> IT'S OKAY. YOU GOT IT. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> YOU'RE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT IS GOING ON? >> I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART WHERE YOU WERE EVIDENTLY VOTING, BUT I HEARD THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THEIR PRESENTATION, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION BUILDING FROM THAT PRESENTATION [INAUDIBLE] NUMBER 1 IS THE PICTURE. THAT WAS THE EARLIEST KNOWN PICTURE OF 1923 AVENUE M, WHICH IS [INAUDIBLE]. I'VE GOT THE [INAUDIBLE] THEY'RE NOT VERY BIG OF AN ITALIAN ARCHITECTURE HOUSE, AND I WANTED YOU GUYS TO HAVE A PICTURE YOU CAN PUT UP OF THE HOUSE, OR IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET THE [INAUDIBLE] 1900 PICTURE UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. OKAY. THIS IS AN ITALIAN MADE HOUSE, [INAUDIBLE] SAME WINDOW, SAME WINDOW ON THE LEFT IT'S GOT ALL THE ENDING OF VOWELS TRACE OVER THE FRONT DOOR. IT'S GOT THE TERMINUS OF TOP WITH THE BRACKET HALL, WINDOWS, DENTAL MOLDING. I'VE GOT THREE OTHER HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT BY THE SAME BUILDER, AND IT'S ROBERT GARNET. IT'S THE 3518 AVENUE M, THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1878. THERE SHOULD BE A PICTURE OF THAT SOMEWHERE, I BELIEVE. I KNOW IT WAS PRESENTED AS PART OF MY PRESENTATION TO THE [INAUDIBLE]. THEN THERE'S THE J. F. SMITH HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1884, AT 2217 BROADWAY. ALL THREE BUILT BY THE SAME BUILDER SOME TIME. THEY [INAUDIBLE] ALL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME HALL, EXACT SAME WINDOWS, THE [INAUDIBLE] ABOVE THE PROPERTIES, ABOVE THE BED, AND ABOVE THE FRONT DOOR. EVERYTHING, IS INCREDIBLY SIMILAR TO 1923 AVENUE M. THEN THERE'S THE JEFF SMITH HOUSE I DID THERE ON 2017 BROADWAY. SAME THING. IT'S GOT A [INAUDIBLE] WEST WING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE BY ALL THREE HOUSES. INCREDIBLY SIMILAR, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MOLDING TERMS, CROWN MOLDING. [INAUDIBLE] SEE A PICTURE OF IT TO SHOW EVERYBODY ON THE CONDITION. BUT IT'S IDENTICAL, ESSENTIALLY IDENTICAL. THERE'S NONE OF THE STARS, STRIPES, AND SCRIBBLE THAT WAS THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE. WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE LAST JULY, AND FELL IN LOVE WITH [INAUDIBLE] COMING TO GALVESTON, THE OUTCOME, [00:45:02] AND THE INTERNAL STRAND AND [INAUDIBLE] ALL THE STREETS AND JUST LOVE TOURING AND [INAUDIBLE] RUN BY AND LOOK AT ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURAL HOUSES. WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, AND WANTED TO PRESERVE IT. THERE'S A LOT OF ROTTEN WOOD, A LOT OF MOLDING, LOTS OF ISSUES WITH THE HOUSE. [INAUDIBLE] A 100 PERCENT OF THE INTENT WAS TO RESTORE IT TO ITS ORIGINAL HISTORIC LOOK. WE'RE REALLY PROUD BEEN A RESTORED HOUSE, AND IT SURVIVED THE 1900 FLOOD. ALL THESE OTHER THREE HOUSES, BUILT BY THE SAME BUILDER, ALMOST IDENTICAL, NONE OF THEM HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW, SOMEBODY DIDN'T LIKE US OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? BY CLAIMING THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF SQUARE [INAUDIBLE] BUT THE OTHER THING I CAN SAY IS THAT THE 1900 PHOTOGRAPH, I KNOW CATHERINE CAN SOMEHOW PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN. BUT YOU LOOKED AT THE TALENTS, AND THE EYEBROW TRIM AND WHATEVER THE STARS AND STRIPES ARE, WHATEVER [INAUDIBLE] WERE PLACED BETWEEN THE TOPS OF THE WINDOWS, AND UNDERNEATH THE EYEBROW CROWN MOLDING. [INAUDIBLE] 1900 PICTURE AS HAVING NOTHING. I KNOW THE PICTURE'S OLD, AND I ASK CATHERINE SEVERAL TIMES IF I WANT TO COME, I GOT TO SHOW THE PICTURE IN PERSON [INAUDIBLE] NONE OF THIS IS PRESENT. YOU CAN SEE [INAUDIBLE] IN 1900S PHOTO BECAUSE THERE'S A [INAUDIBLE] THERE. THERE ARE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR HOUSES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL RAISED UP. IT'S ALL [INAUDIBLE]. THERE'S NOTHING EARLIER THAN THIS HOUSE. THE FACT THAT THESE STARS, THESE SQUIGGLES WERE ADDED IN 1996, THERE IT IS, THANK YOU. AS WE RAN IN THE 2ND HOUSE ON THE RIGHT, IT WAS WHITE AT THAT TIME. THIS IS ALL FADED OUT NOW. IT DOESN'T DO THE ORIGINAL PICTURE JUSTICE AT ALL. BUT [INAUDIBLE] HAS BEEN COPIED SO MANY TIMES THAT BASICALLY YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DARK WINDOWS REFLECT DARK, AND TURN AROUND THE [INAUDIBLE] WINDOWS' DARK COLOR. YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE EYEBROW TRENDS, WHICH IF YOU COULD SEE IT SEE IN PERSON I THINK ANYBODY WOULD AGREE THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME SHAPE OF WHAT'S IN PLACE NOW, AND THEY'RE PAINTED DARK. THOSE ARE NOT SQUIGGLES ABOVE THOSE WINDOWS. THOSE ARE THE EYEBROW TRIM THAT WAS PAINTED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO DO OTHER THAN MAYBE BRING THIS PHOTO WE HAVE, WHICH IS EMINENTLY MORE CLEAR THAN THAT, TO A MEETING OR SOMEWHERE WHERE [INAUDIBLE] CAN SEE IT, BUT THEY WEREN'T PRESENT THEN AND IT WAS RIGHT AT MY HOUSE AS THEY GO BACK, AND REPLACE THE WINDOW ON THE HOUSE THAT WERE NOT PRESENT DURING THE [INAUDIBLE]. I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] MY SCREEN NOW, IT'S JUST REALLY WASHED OUT, AND IT'S HARD TO SEE. BUT YOU SEE THEM [INAUDIBLE] LOOKING LIKE THE EYEBROW ABOVE THE LENGTH BETWEEN THE TELEPHONE POLE, AND THE [INAUDIBLE] A RECTANGULAR TALL THIN WINDOW ABOVE FIRST FLOOR AND SEVENTH FLOOR, AND THERE'S LIKE A DARK EYEBROW ON THERE. YEAH. RIGHT UP THERE. NOW IF YOU GO BACK TO OUR HOUSE NOW, I'LL POINT OUT [INAUDIBLE] OKAY. YOU DID A GRUMBLING AND EXPAND APPEARANCE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINDOW. IT WENT AWAY, SORRY. >> THAT'S MY FAULT, I WAS SCROLLING BACK. THERE WE GO. >> THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. IF YOU SEE ABOVE THE PLAY WINDOWS, THAT'S TWO WINDOWS. ONE OF THEM STEP SCREEN UP A LITTLE HIGH A BIT, THESE ARE WINDOW TRIM, WE'VE PAINTED THE DARK COLOR, THE DARK BLUE. THE WINDOW FRAME, I SHOULD SAY. THEN A CROWN MOLDING AND [INAUDIBLE] , I THOUGHT I'D RATHER BETTER MANAGED. BUT IT SHOOTS UP AND THEN BACK DOWN. THEN THE ONE ABOVE THE BAY, THEN THE ONE ABOVE THE DOOR ON THE SECOND FLOOR, IT'S MORE OF JUST A STRAIGHT EDGE PIECE, STRAIGHT LINES TILTED UP AND LEAD THE MIDDLE. [00:50:02] IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT OURSELVES, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE SCRIPTURE BETWEEN THE TOP OF THE WINDOW FRAMES AND OUR DARK BLUE IN THE PICTURE, AND THEN THE PROTRUDING PIECE ABOVE IT, IT STICK OUT FROM THE MOST OF MOLDING AROUND THE WINDOW, THE PART THAT PROTRUDES THAT OUT, WHICH DOES HAVE A PITCHED EYEBROW THAT WAS PAINTED DARK IN 1900. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE BETWEEN THE WINDOW AND THAT TOP EYEBROW MOLDING TRIM WAS PAINTED DARK. THERE'S NOTHING IN BETWEEN THERE ON THE 1900 PICTURE. IT'S JUST PURE WHITE. IT'S PRETTY MUCH GALLERY, I ADMIT. BUT IT'S IN THAT PICTURE AND THERE ARE CLEARER ONES AVAILABLE IN PERSON. THEIR DRAFT, YOU CAN SEE IT, AND THERE'S OTHER PICTURES. I HAVE TOO THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THIS LIKE THE THOSE FOUR BAY WINDOWS. THERE'S THAT SAME PROTRUDING TRIM ABOVE THOSE FOUR BAY WINDOWS. THE STARS AND STRIPES IN THE HOUSE, WE BOUGHT IT IN THE PICTURE THAT SHOWN EARLIER, JUST PUT SQUIGGLES AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN THE TOP OF THOSE WINDOWS. [INAUDIBLE]. THE SQUIGGLE, WE'RE STUCK IN THERE. YOU CAN SEE AROUND 1900 PICTURE TOO, THERE'S NOTHING BETWEEN THE WINDOW IN THAT TOP OF THE EYEBROW TRIM COLUMN. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GO BACK AND BASTARDIZES THING OR SOMETHING THAT IS PHENOMENON, WHO KNOWS WHEN THE FIFTIES OR SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES TO THE POWER OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, I KNOW CAN BE BOUGHT IT. I KNOW THEY'RE IN PLACES LIKE THIS CROWD HAD IT PREVIOUS TO US LETS LEAVE THEM ALONE, IN 5 - 10 YEARS. THAT'S THE OLD PICTURE WHICH WE HAVE TO GO BY. I RECOMMEND THAT EVERYBODY HERE THAT TAKES THAT FROM THE PAST JUDGMENT IN. BUT ALSO THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SHOW GAMBLING AND HE CANADA OR KNOWS EVERYTHING, EXCEPT OF THE ROBBER GET GARBAGE OUT 35, 80 [INAUDIBLE] IN J. F. SMITH HOUSE, 1580 FOR THAT FROM 2217 BROAD LINE. THIS DOES NOT AGAIN THOUGH, BY SAYING THE SAME EXACT ARCHITECTURE AND NONE OF IT IS GOING ON. THAT 3518 IS A TATAR HELL. THERE'S NOTHING BETWEEN THE BAY WINDOWS AND TRIMS ABOVE IT. I MEAN, WE HAVE THE BOX TO THE R FACTOR AND PARSES AND J.F SMITH HOUSE, ALTHOUGH BEEN A THING THOSE TRAINING ARCHITECTURE, WE'VE GOT THOSE LITTLE FACTORS BETWEEN TOPS OF OUR BAY WINDOW AND THEY GET ALL MOLDING ABOVE IT. WE'VE GOT A WHOLE OF PAIN CAN'T LIE ON J.F SMITH, THOSE ARE RECTANGULAR BOX IN THERE BETWEEN THE BRACKETS. WE HAVE THE ANONYMOUS. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THERE'S NO EVIDENCE ANYWHERE THAT WE'RE THINKING THAT THIS IS HISTORICAL AND THE THREE HOUSES THAT WERE TIMING OUT TO BUILT BY THE SAME BUILDER THAT ARE EMPLOYED TO NOW NONE OF THEM HAVE THEM NOW WE'VE DONE HIM OFF TO THE THOUGHT THAT I WAS TAUGHT THAT ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE. I THINK THIS WAS FOR THE CHANGE IN THE ERROR WAS MADE BY SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE IN THE MID PROBABLY THERE EITHER I THINK WAS DOING AND I THINK FLOWER WOULD THEN START FROM 1933. SO IN MY OPINION BETWEEN 1933 AND WHATEVER THE HISTORIC. THAT'S HOW TO DOMINANCE TOWARD FLUORINE, WHICH IS A COUPLE OF TIMES IN 1976 I CAME TO THE FIRST ONE I'M AWARE OF MOVEMENT OF THE 1992. SOMETIME BETWEEN THE STORY IN 1976, SOMEBODY BUDDHISM, [INAUDIBLE]. I DON'T KNOW WHY. BUT TO MY OPINION IS THEN SNAPPED DIFFERENT BREEDS. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> I DO. I'M CURIOUS. ELEMENTS THAT YOU REMOVE FROM THE HOUSE YOU STILL HAVE THOSE? >> NO, WHICH I DID. LOOK AT THE PICTURE BUT I DIDN'T, I MAY HAVE [INAUDIBLE] BACK IN THE GARAGE. [00:55:02] BUT WE WERE REPAIRING ROTTEN WOOD AND CLOSE OFF AND THINGS GOT RUNAWAY. I MEAN, THERE WEREN'T LIKE A ONE IN FOUR OF THEM FALL IN MOLDING AROUND HIS HOUSE. YOU GO LOOK AT IT THEY WERE JUST GLUED ON TO THAT LITTLE WHITE BOND BETWEEN THE TOP OF THE WINDOWS AND THE EYEBROW MOLDING. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS CARVED. IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE COURT HAS BEEN LOWERED, THE DEAD SUPPORT, THE BALCONY ABOVE THE FRONT DOOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WAS ALL OUT OF WOOD. THOSE WERE ALL ORIGINAL. THEY'RE ALL IN ALL THREE OF THE EXAMPLES NONE THAT GLUE ON FILM, NELSON? >> DO YOU REALIZE THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN IN WAS 87? >> THE ONLY OTHER PICTURE WE HAVE BESIDES THE ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, WAS THE ONE SUBMITTED BY FRED THAT [INAUDIBLE] BOOK WAS PUBLISHED IN 96. >> [INAUDIBLE] WHEN YOU ZOOM IN, YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE HIM. >>WHEN YOU ZOOM IN YOU CAN SEE HIM. HE'S DOING WHENEVER THEY'RE OUT THERE, THERE WERE THEIR [INAUDIBLE] LIVES. >> IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN. JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THAT. LOOPS THROUGH CRAMPED. >>PRETTY BEGINNING FATHERHOOD, MEN, THEY'RE NOT LIKE A BAY WINDOW AND EVERYTHING. >>BACK INTO REPORT SAID THAT THEY HAD SQUARE NAILS. WE WOULD HAVE BEEN SQUARE NAILS. DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY WERE ORIGINAL. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN APPLIED LATER, BUT THEY USED OLD AND FEATURES AS A TEMPLATE TO REPRODUCE MORE OF THEM IN FLIGHT. IT USES A DIFFERENT CASE. >> IT IS, [INAUDIBLE] OUT. >> THEY DID IT. >> I'LL TRY NOT TO REACH OUT AND URIEL FRAY LIKE BUT SHE PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO THEY COULD DOCK. I GOT HANDED DOWN, OLD PICTURE THING BUT, I THINK ONE OF THEM, I'VE DENTAL AVERAGING ABOUT THE EVENT, THOSE GOT, TEMPTING. WE WENT THAT ODD. BUT, THAT WAS LIKE AN OUT OF THOSE 50 YEARS OR SOMETHING. I'D LOVE TO SHOW EVERYBODY THE ORIGINAL WITH [INAUDIBLE] TO COPY. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE WHICH IS DROPPING 20 TIMES. [LAUGHTER] THEN, THE 9800 ONE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE WE WANT TO MANAGE. >>WE THOUGHT THE SCREEN WASN'T CLEAR ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY JUDGMENT WAS WHETHER IT WAS THERE OR NOT. I KNOW THE SHADOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. I COULDN'T TELL FROM THAT WITHOUT MAYBE SEEING THE ORIGINAL. >>I HAVE ONE OBSERVATION. WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ACCOUNT. I'M SOMEBODY WHO IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT SUCH THINGS. IF YOU HAVE A STAR THAT WAS ORIGINALLY MADE OF THEATER AND IT HAD THE SQUARE NAIL, THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES THE SCROLLWORK ON ITALIANATE ALL OVER THE ISLAND, EVEN DOWNTOWN ON BUILDINGS. THEY FREQUENTLY ACCOMPANY THE STOCK, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING THROUGH A VERY PATRIOTIC TIME IN OUR DATE. THAT'S WHERE THE STARS WERE IMPLEMENTED. I'M NOT GOING THROUGH AND RENAME ALL OF THEM ALONE, IS VERY WELL KNOWN AND HAS SCROLLING STARS ON IT JUST LIKE THAT. THAT'S ONE OBSERVATION. WE KNOW THERE IS STORAGE THERE. IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT THEY WOULD PUT JUST TO START AND NOT [01:00:03] SLOWER THAN ONE BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE ORIGINAL OWNERS, WILLIAM, AND TOMMY, YOU'VE PURCHASED A HOUSE IN THE LAB FLIGHT. THERE WAS A LOT JUST BY VIRTUE OF FRIENDSHIP. AT THE TIME THEY PURCHASE THE HOUSE, THE SCOPE, AND STAFF WERE THERE. THERE'S ONE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE UP. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO JUDGE A HOUSE BASED ON A 19TH STORM [INAUDIBLE] HAVE A GREAT RESUME BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS CHANGED ABOUT THE HOUSE, AS A RESULT OF THE STORM. SOMEWHERE NOT DO OR SOMEWHERE PICKS UP SOME OF THE MOON ALIVE AND WERE ARRAY AT THAT TIME. ALTHOUGH, WE DON'T ALWAYS JUDGE THEM BY WHAT WAS ABSOLUTELY ORIGINAL TO THE TIME THE HOUSE WAS BUILT. LAWFUL, JUDGE, SOMETHING THAT WAS HISTORICALLY KNOWN ABOUT THIS HOUSE. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A CHANGE THAT WAS DONE 50 YEARS AGO OR MORE. A LANDMARK, WE GENERALLY SAY ABOUT 50, 60 YEARS OR MORE. IT'S PART OF GALVESTON FIXTURE. THE SCROLL AND THAT STOCK OR DEAFNESS HARDER, GALVESTON SAID, HOW DO YOU MAKE VERNACULARS? I CAN AGAIN FIND DATA, FOR EXAMPLE, OF THAT. YOU HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE CONSULTANT SAID YES, IT WAS THEIR ORIGINAL OWNER. SOMEBODY TOOK A STAR, OFTEN, SAID YES, IT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE. I CAN DATE THE AGE, MATERIAL, AND THE NAIL. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE SAME BUILDER BUILT TWO OTHER HOUSES, BUT, WOMEN OFTEN GO UP THERE, THREE IDENTICAL HOUSES. THEY'VE GOT ONE AND HALF THE SEMINAR TO CATHOLIC BURN DOWN WITH THE HELP FROM BROADWAY. THEY SAY, CAN I USE YOUR FRAME TO BUILD A HOUSE AND THEY OMITTED THAT EACH OTHER. THERE'S A LOT ABOUT THAT WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT PRESSURES WHAT I WANT TO STUDY INTRANET. THE THIRD, THOSE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. >>WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO FIND OUT ITALIAN HOUSES IN GALVESTON. I FIND THAT EITHER IN MICHIGAN AND ANOTHER CITY OF NEW ORLEANS. THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT I'M AWARE OF, THAT ALGORITHM OF FINDING OTHER LOVE THE BARREL WHERE I WOULD USE OUR ISABELLE. >>THERE'S ONE OF 33RD ITSELF. THERE'S ONE ON 523. THERE IS THE [INAUDIBLE] HOME, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ON MARKET, 1500 BUCKS MARKET. THERE'S ALSO DAVID WALKER WHO SELLS THEM, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN ACROSS AN INSURANCE BUILDING AND IT IS A GIANT WHERE THEIR EXACT NAME STARTS FLOWING. IT IS VERY GOOD. AGAIN YOU CAN'T SAY, THE LEAD CONCEPTION THAT PEOPLE OFTEN DON'T UNDERSTAND, THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GOUT AND FOR NATURAL, OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE COMMON TO THIS ERA TO THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY AT THAT TIME. AN ITALIANATE IN NEW ORLEANS MAY LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN ITALIANATE GALVESTON. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VERNACULAR AND INFLUENCES THAT WERE COMING IN AT THAT TIME. WE HAVE LOTS OF GAUSSIAN WITH HOW [INAUDIBLE] , THAT HAVE HAD THAT THING, GROW IT AND START. WHICH WAS A REFERENCE TO CHECK THIS PATRIOTIC MOVEMENT WHICH YOU WOULDN'T FIND IN CHARLESTON OR GEORGIA. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE STARTED ON THEIR CHANNEL THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THIS PROBLEM. BUT, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATING CELEBRATE IN IT. AROUND 30 PER CELL, 523 CAMP, DAVID WASHINGTON FILLED IN AND JUST RIDE AROUND WITH COLOR FROM THE HYBRID CAR OR WHEREVER TRACK, THE NEW GRADUATE FILTER THAT IS THAT WAY. IT'S NOT THERE. THE LOGAN BERG HOUSE. >> I CAN FIND KICKING AROUND, CABLING AFFLICTING OUR MARKET OF DRIVE-BYS VERY VERY WELL. >>YOU CAN GOOGLE THE LOCAL BURKE, HAVE A LOGIN DOT COUNT, AND IT'S VERY PREVALENT. >> IF I MAY, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER CASES, WE THINK IT IS TODAY. THIS IS NOT REALLY A RESEARCH EXPEDITION THAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW. I THINK THE COMMISSIONER, TO HAVE ANY OTHER STANFORD QUESTION FOR YOU THEY CAN PROCEED WITH THAT, AND THEN THERE CAN BE A MOTION MADE AND IT'S BETTER. IT NEEDS TO BE REFERRED FOR MORE INFORMATION, OR WHATEVER THAT CAN BE IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR PATIENTS THAT GO THAT ROUTE. I WANTED TO WRITE, [01:05:02] BUT WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER CASES THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS THICK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENTS, MR. EDDIE. >>THANK YOU AND SORRY ABOUT THIS TECHNICAL [INAUDIBLE]. >>ALONG THE WAY WE'RE OUT OF THEM. IF MY RULE OF THUMB, [LAUGHTER]. I KNOW THAT A FOUNDER HAS FOUND THE OTHER COMMENT, I THINK FROM A PICTURE THAT WE'RE SAYING WORKERS AND WHY WE WOULD SEE, I THINK WE NEED MORE EVIDENCE THAT WHAT ABSOLUTELY WASN'T THEM OF AN OUTPUT AND LIKING A 100 OR WHATEVER. MY UNDERSTANDING IS GOOD FOR A GIFT TO A DAUGHTER UPON A WEDDING THIS HOUSE. YOU CAN IMAGINE SOMEONE GOING OUT AND SAYING I LIKE THE BARS ON MY HEALTH. ALTHOUGH, I CAN IMAGINE THE NUMBER OF STARS MIGHT HAVE BEEN ORIGINAL AND SOME WORK. I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF DAMAGE OCCURS WHEN A REPLICA OF WHAT WAS IN THEIR BODY. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, I THINK RIGHT NOW. THEY WERE PIAZZA DOESN'T HAVE IT. THEY ONLY ACTUALLY HAD MORE RESEARCH, MORE TIME WITH FIG ON THAT FLIGHT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTION? >> AGAIN IF ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE]. [FOREIGN] [01:19:05] >> I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, [01:19:08] 1821LC-018, AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. LIKE A MOTION THEN THERE WILL BE A PROBE TAPE, WITH 1LC-018 WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION. CUNNY, I'M SORRY. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> DO WE NEED ANY DISCUSSION? YES CUNNY. >> WELL, THE BLOOD FROM HABIT. THE LADY VISIT THE ULNA, HOW WE MIGHT BE FOUR-YEAR-OLD PLAY WITH MICK THORNTON. SHE BOUGHT [INAUDIBLE] AND SHE ENCLOSED [INAUDIBLE] TO PUT IN A ONE ROOM AND ANOTHER BEDROOM [INAUDIBLE] ACTUALLY THE FIRST [01:20:05] [INAUDIBLE]. BUT SHE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO ME AND TOLD ME A LOT ABOUT THAT HOUSE. [INAUDIBLE] BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WASN'T [INAUDIBLE] IS UNLIKELY. THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY JUST A [INAUDIBLE] WHAT I'M GUESSING. THAT SHE DID TELL ME [INAUDIBLE]. WHEN YOU SEE THE BOARD ON THE [INAUDIBLE] , UP ABOVE, YOU CAN SEE [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S RUNNING BACK FROM WHERE IT WAS [INAUDIBLE]. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING BACK. >> [INAUDIBLE] ONE MINUTE. >> OKAY. THANKS, CATHERINE. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> YEAH. OKAY. YOU SEE THAT BOARD ROOM RIGHT BACK THERE? >> [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] WHERE THE ORIGINAL PORTRAIT WORK. [INAUDIBLE] ACCORDING TO HER. >> OKAY. >> THIS IS DR. LEE [INAUDIBLE] PASSED AWAY ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO [INAUDIBLE] , AND SHE LIVED NEXT DOOR [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY MOVED INTO THE [INAUDIBLE] HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO US AND [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN HER [INAUDIBLE] DAUGHTER MOVED INTO THAT HOUSE [INAUDIBLE]. IF I ASKED YOU ABOUT THAT [INAUDIBLE] ON THE BACK OF MIND, THAT WAS EXACTLY I'M CATHERINE SUGGEST [INAUDIBLE] PLATFORM ON TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT [INAUDIBLE] WERE ADDED AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT BY DOING UNDER THOSE WERE FORTUNATE [INAUDIBLE] , AND IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE PUT [INAUDIBLE] FACTOR. THEY GENERALLY DIDN'T. [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]. >> I'VE SEEN WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING AND I AGREE WITH YOU THERE. [INAUDIBLE] ANYBODY ELSE WITH A COMMENT? ALL RIGHT THEN. [INAUDIBLE] GO AHEAD AND [INAUDIBLE] ON THE MOTION. >> MR. [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> IN FAVOR. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? >> IN FAVOR. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IT'S 21 [INAUDIBLE] 019. >> [INAUDIBLE] 2017 [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE] OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING IN CASE 21LC-019 [INAUDIBLE] APPLICANTS PRESENT. >> I'M PRESENT [INAUDIBLE]. >> WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. >> [INAUDIBLE] I THINK YOU'VE DONE A BIT OF WORK IN [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE]. >> ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN [INAUDIBLE] TWO AND A HALF IN THE FOUR AND HALF YEARS [INAUDIBLE]. [01:25:03] >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE] ISN'T IT? >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> WOULD HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE] WITH A FIRE JUST BEFORE YOU PURCHASED IT. IT NEEDED A LOT OF WORK, AND YOU GUYS JUST DONE A WONDERFUL JOB WITH IT. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. HOW THEY [INAUDIBLE] WALL FROM THE INFERIOR WITHOUT PUTTING RALPH [INAUDIBLE]. IT WAS AN INCREDIBLY TASK TO REMOVE ALL THE [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE] CONFIRM IT [INAUDIBLE] VERY MUCH AND WONDERFUL JOB. [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] >>NO. I WAS JUST [INAUDIBLE] >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN. ANYONE [INAUDIBLE]. >> NO OTHER PUBLIC MEMBER IS PRESENT. >> RIGHT THEN. BOTH PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 21LC-019 AND BRING IT BACK TO COMMISSION. [INAUDIBLE] >> YES, OKAY. HERE I AM. [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] LC-019. [INAUDIBLE] RECOMMENDATION. >> [INAUDIBLE] ON THE MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]. >> I'M FAVORING. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]. >> IN FAVOR. >> ALL IN FAVOR, THE MOTION PASSES. >> IN THE LAST CASE, WE HAVE THIS 21LC-020. >> [INAUDIBLE] RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR 34 NOTICE [INAUDIBLE] FAVOR. [INAUDIBLE] STRUCTURE WAS LOCATED ON THE [INAUDIBLE] REQUESTING [INAUDIBLE]. [01:30:29] >> [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES FROM THE ALLEY. CAN WE GO BACK TO THOSE? >> SURE. >> THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE]. >> [LAUGHTER] YEAH, THAT BOTTOM ONE, THE ONE BELOW IT. >> WELL [LAUGHTER], LETS TRY THAT AGAIN. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. THERE'S NO WAY I DID IT. I WASN'T PATIENT ENOUGH. >> I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT REPLACEMENT WOOD RIGHT THERE, WHETHER THEY STAND IT OUT AT THAT SECTION OF THE HOUSE AT SOME POINT, BUT I DON'T THINK SO, SEEING THE ROOF LINE UP THERE NOW. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [INAUDIBLE] >> A QUESTION? >> YES. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> THIS IS JUST THE GENERIC QUESTION, BUT I THOUGHT UNLESS SOMEONE WAS GOING TO REPLACE THE STRUCTURE, IT WAS GRANDFATHER DOWN AT THAT PLACE. IS THIS NORMAL TO HAVE THIS COME UP AS THE LIFE OF THE [INAUDIBLE]? >> IT'S NOT UNUSUAL, AND WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT THERE'S ANY GRANDFATHERING UNDER [INAUDIBLE] INTO THE DRIVE WAY. ONCE WE DISCOVER ONE, THEN THE OWNER SHOULD SEEK RESOLUTION OF IT. ONE OF THE WAYS IS THROUGH LICENSE FEES. >> GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CUNNY? >> CATHERINE, I NOTICED IN THE PHOTO AND SEEING THE PROPERTY ITSELF, IT LOOKS LIKE THE STRUCTURE IS MUCH OLDER THAN THE HOUSE IS. MAYBE IT WAS THERE BEFORE THE HOUSE FOR BUILT. THE SIX OVER SIX WINDOWS, THEY'RE WEIGHTLESS, PREDATES THE HOUSE CONSTRUCTION IN THE FRONT. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? >> WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE CONSTRUCTION DATE EXCEPT THAT WE FOUND IT ON THE SAND BORNS, BEFORE 1912. [NOISE]. >> IT'S AN UNUSUAL LITTLE FELLA THERE. >> ANYWAY CATHERINE, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THIS HOUSE [LAUGHTER] , AND ACTUALLY THE NEXT STORY IS THE CHERRY HOUSE. >> RIGHT? >> WHICH IS THE [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE] THAT SURVIVED THE 1885 FIRE. AGAIN, ON THE CONFEDERATE FORTIFICATION MAP THAT WE SAW EARLIER, THAT SHOWS THE CHERRY HOUSE. THERE WAS A HOUSE BEHIND IT, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THAT STRUCTURE. THEN AFTER THE 1885 FIRE, WHATEVER WAS BEHIND THE CHERRY HOUSE HAD BEEN MOVED NEXT DOOR, AND IT WAS LOOKED ON THE SAND BORN MAP LIKE THAT WAS ALL CHERRY PROPERTY. THEY HAD MOVED IT NEXT DOOR TO THEM, BECAUSE A HOUSE THAT HAD BEEN THERE SHOWING ON THE 1860 MAP, THEY WERE ALL GONE BECAUSE OF THE FIRE. APPARENTLY LATER ON THEY MAYBE MOVED IT BACK TO THE ALLEY WHEN THE HOUSE CONTRACTORS BUILD. >> DO WE KNOW WHEN THE HOUSE CONSTRUCTOR WAS BUILT? >> MUCH LATER, A LITTLE AFTER 1885. >> OKAY. THE SIX OVER SIX WAIT-LIST, WHAT WAS THE PERIOD OF THAT? WAS THAT DURING RECONSTRUCTION? >> THE SIX OVER SIX WHAT? >> WAIT-LIST, THE SIX OVER SIX WAIT-LIST. >> WHAT'S A WAIT-LIST? >> THERE'S NO [INAUDIBLE] >> YEAH. I MEAN, THEY HAD BUILD UP UNTIL THE 1870S, 1880S. >> YES, BUT YOU DON'T SEE THEM MUCH AFTER 1880S CONSTRUCTION. >> NO. [OVERLAPPING] ALSO, IF YOU NOTICED, THAT LITTLE BUILDING, [01:35:01] IT HAS [INAUDIBLE] , LIKE THE ONE ON THE CASE WE SAW EARLIER. AGAIN, IT A VERY STRONG SIGN THAT IT PREDATES CIVIL WAR. >> THAT'S WHAT I THINK. I WISH THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD SPECIALLY PROTECT IT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'RE A LOT OF EXCITING ARCHITECTURES, THEY'RE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE OWNER'S AWARE OF THAT. THEY KNOW. >> THEY WERE REQUESTING A LICENSE TO USE IN ORDER TO RETAIN IT. >> [LAUGHTER] I KNOW. EXACTLY. >> WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RETAINING IT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING IT FOR DECADES TO COME. >> THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM. >> THERE'S NO PROTECTION ON IT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO USE BUT THERE'S NO PROTECTION ON THEM. >> [OVERLAPPING] RIGHT. IT HAS [NOISE] SOME PROTECTION INSIDE THE STRUCTURE. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]. >> CHRISTINE. >> YES. >> JUST SAY IT. >> I JUST NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION. IF THERE WAS A CASE WHERE THIS HOUSE WAS DESTROYED FOR SOME REASON, FIRE OR WHATEVER, WOULD THAT RIGHT TO USE STILL BE RETAINED SO SOMETHING COULD BE REBUILT? >> NOW, [OVERLAPPING] IF SOMETHING WAS DESTROYED AND RECONSTRUCTED, IT WOULD NEED TO BE ON TODAY'S STANDARDS. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINES. [NOISE]. >> EXACTLY. >> GOOD THOUGHT. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK THEN I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 21LC-020. ARE THE APPLICANTS READY? >> THE APPLICANTS ARE NOT PRESENT. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CASE? >> ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CASE, WE ASK THAT YOU USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND FUNCTION. SEEING NONE. >> ALL RIGHT THEN. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 21LC-020 AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. I'LL THEN MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE 21LC-020 FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND DECISION. >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, SECONDED. ANY OBJECTION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL [INAUDIBLE]. >> COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER HOUSTON? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER LANE? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER MCWAYNE? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER GARRISON? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER WOOD? >> IN FAVOR. >> COMMISSIONER SWANSON? >> IN FAVOR. >> ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION PASSES. >> [INAUDIBLE] A MOTION TO ADJOURN. [INAUDIBLE] >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> [LAUGHTER] >> ALL RIGHT. >> THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. BYE BYE. >> THANKS EVERYONE. >> BYE BYE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.