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ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

[Call to Order]

I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE APRIL 22ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

GOOD MORNING, GALVESTON.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING IN.

GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

GOOD MORNING, STAFF.

AND WE HAVE SOME OF, OUR PLEASURE TO HAVE SPECIAL GUESTS.

IF EVERYONE CAN MUTE YOUR COMPUTERS, PLEASE.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT IS EIGHT O'CLOCK AND I AM OFFICIALLY CALLING THE WORKSHOP MEETING FOR THE APRIL 22ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.

AND WE'LL HAVE A DECLARATION OF A QUORUM.

WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE.

BUT JANELLE, IF YOU COULD DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MA'AM? [INAUDIBLE] BROWN? PRESENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM COLLINS? PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHUSTER? HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER QUIROGA? PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI? HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROBB? HERE.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON IS ABSENT TODAY.

THANK YOU, JANELLE, WE DO HAVE THE QUORUM HERE.

WOULD FOR COUNCIL JUST MENTION TO YOU, AS YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, WE HAVE QUITE A BUSY SCHEDULE, BUSY WORKSHOP THIS MORNING.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO KEEP EVERYONE ON TASK AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE WE EFFICIENTLY COVER ALL THOSE ITEMS WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

IT IS NOW MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME THE PARK BOARD, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WITH US AND STAFF.

GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY.

AND JANELLE, IF YOU, WHAT WE'LL DO.

SO.

OK, SO THE CITY COUNCIL STARTED SO.

IF YOU COULD MUTE.

IF YOU'RE ON THERE, PLEASE MUTE.

AND UNLESS YOU'RE SPEAKING AND JANELLE WILL READ ITEM 3A AND THEN SPENCER, I'LL

[3A. Joint Workshop With The Park Board To Discuss The Following Items Of Mutual Interest (Collins/Brown - 1 Hour): 1. 2021 Tourism Season Projections (Spencer Priest, Chair) 2. Discuss Stewart Beach Development Options (Dave Jacoby, Chair, Stewart Beach Task Force) 3. Discuss $1.4 Million RESTORE Grant Opportunity for East End Lagoon (Steven Creitz, Chair, East End Lagoon Advisory Committee) 4. Presentation of Park Board 2021-2026 Capital Improvement Plan (Kelly de Schaun, CEO)]

LET YOU GO AHEAD.

IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, SIR, AND OPEN YOUR MEETING, PLEASE.

ITEM 3A PLEASE, JANELLE.

ITEM 3A, JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE PARK BOARD TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS OF MUTUAL INTEREST ONE 2021 TOURISM SEASON PROJECTION.

TWO DISCUSS STEWART BEACH DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS.

THREE DISCUSS ONE POINT ONE MILLION RESTORE GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR EAST END LAGOON AND FOR A PRESENTATION OF PARK BOARD 2021-2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

THANK YOU, JANELLE.

SPITZER? ALL RIGHT, SIR.

WELL, GOOD MORNING,[INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR BROWN.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER OF THE PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, APRIL 22ND.

AND WE HAVE WHAT TIME DO WE HAVE? 8:03 A.M.

AND [INAUDIBLE] COULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL? GOOD MORNING, SPENCER PRIEST? HERE.

WILL WRIGHT? HERE.

DAVE JACOBI? HERE.

DAVID COLLINS? HERE.

STEVEN [INAUDIBLE]? PRESENT.

MARTY FUQUE? HERE.

JASON HARDCASTLE? HE'LL BE COMING IN IN JUST A MOMENT.

HE HAD TO DROP OFF HIS KIDS, BUT HE'LL BE JOINING US.

OK.

MAUREEN PATTON? HERE.

JASON WORTHEN? HERE.

AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

ALL RIGHT, WELL.

I AM SPENCER PRIEST, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE DOUBLETREE GALVESTON BEACH HOTEL AND CHAIR OF THE PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE PRESENTING TO YOU THIS MORNING.

SO JUST AS WE GET INTO OUR AGENDA ITEMS, DO WE HAVE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST DECLARATIONS? OK.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON OUR AGENDA, I WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR 2021 TOURISM SEASON PROJECTIONS.

SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES THIS MORNING AND JUST MENTION THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED OUR 2019-2020 INFORMATION IN THE PACKET THAT WE SENT OUT THAT'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF OUR NUMBERS AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO TAKE MORE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE 2021 SEASON IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND YOU SAW IT DURING SPRING BREAK.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE TYPICALLY GAUGE OUR SUMMER SEASON IS GOING TO PERFORM BASED ON THE SPRING BREAK WEEKS.

WELL, IF THIS SPRING BREAK IS ANY INDICATION OF OUR BEACH DESTINATION.

HOLD ON TO YOUR FLIP FLOPS.

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WHILE MANY OF OUR MARKETS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE AND REBOUND AS OUR GROUPS HAVE NOT YET RETURNED AND CORPORATE TRAVEL IS STILL NOT WHERE MOST MARKETS WERE PRE-COVID, GALVESTON WITH ITS RESILIENCY AND TEXAS BEING OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

[INAUDIBLE] HELLO.

IF YOU COULD MUTE PLEASE, SIR.

YOU KNOW.

WE ARE JUST CONTINUING TO SEE INCREASES AND THESE INCREASES IN OUR VISITATION HAVE COME FROM A COMBINATION OF OUR SMALLER MEETINGS, WE'RE SEEING GROUPS RETURNING, OUR SPORTS TOURISM AND SOME RETURN OF THE EVENTS BACK TO THE ISLAND.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ALL OF THAT.

A KEY DRIVER OF THIS IS THE REMOTE WORKFORCE, ADDITIONAL SHORT TERM RENTALS ENTERING THE MARKET.

THE DAY TRIPPERS WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT, THEY JUST KEEP COMING.

AND THAT'S JUST BEEN A YEAR AFTER YEAR CONVERSATION.

OUR CVB MARKETING TEAM HAS JUST DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB PROMOTING THAT COASTAL DISTANCING THING.

AND I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THAT.

AND SO YOUR MESSAGES ABOUT WHAT IS OPEN FROM THE ATTRACTIONS TO THE BEACHES TO DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT'S COMING UP AND COMMUNICATING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO ASSIST WITH BALANCING THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS WITH THE TOURISM DEMANDS.

THE CVB SALES TEAM HAS CONTINUED TO FOCUS ON THE SPORTS TOURNAMENTS AND CHEER AND DANCE COMPETITION.

SO I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THAT WHEN YOU GO OUT TO EAT AT THE RESTAURANTS OR SHOPPING AT THE GROCERY STORES.

THE DANCE COMPETITIONS ON THE WEEKENDS AND EVEN ON THE SHOULDER DATE.

SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED FOR OUR RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS AND EVEN THE SHOPPING.

AND THEY'VE JUST KEPT IN CLOSE COMMUNICATION WITH THE MEETING PLANNERS.

AND WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THOSE THAT HAVE CANCELED THEIR EVENTS.

THEY'RE LOOKING TO ENTER INTO REBOOKING FOR THE FUTURE DATE.

SO THE PHONES ARE RINGING HERE AT THE HOTELS TO START REBOOKING.

THAT'S WELCOME NEWS FOR ALL OF US.

SO, ANYWAY, THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE ITEMS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES WITH OUR CVB ON THE PARK BOARD FOR FOCUSING ON TOURISM GALVESTON ISLAND, WHILE WE'RE STILL KEEPING OUR MIND SET ON TOURISM, PAYS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO I'LL PAUSE FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES.

ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? I'VE JUST ONE QUESTION, SPENCER, I KNOW WE RAISED OUR RATES ON THE SEAWALL FOR PARKING.

IT'S JUST MY OBSERVATION THAT HADN'T HAPPENED.

THE PEOPLE OUT THERE PARKING ON THE SEAWALL.

THAT HASN'T AND I ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE PACKET WE INCLUDED OF THE SLIDE ON SOME OF THAT.

AND IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, I WILL GET INTO SOME OF THAT AS I MOVE FORWARD AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PARKING AND SOME OF OUR PARKS AND OTHER NUMBERS.

SO I WILL HIGHLIGHT THAT NEXT.

SO THANKS FOR TEEING ME UP.

SO SOME OF THOSE HIGHLIGHTS I WANTED TO JUST SHARE WITH COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, AND I MENTIONED SPRING BREAK EARLIER, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS AS WE GET INTO THAT.

SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN WATCHING AND WE INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE SINCE 2014.

WE WANT TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL SOME OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY RATES AND REVENUE NUMBERS.

AND THEN THERE YOU'LL SEE WE INCLUDED HOTEL OCCUPANCY ADR AND REVENUE NUMBERS.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT FROM 2014 TO 2021, OCCUPANCY IS ONLY GROWN TWO POINT THREE PERCENT FROM SEVENTY ONE PERCENT, UP TO SEVENTY TWO POINT SIX PERCENT.

HOWEVER, THAT AVERAGE DAILY RATE HAS GONE FROM ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE DOLLARS AND 70 CENTS, UP TO ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN DOLLARS AND 90 CENTS.

THAT RESULT IS THAT REVENUES HAVE GROWN FROM FORTY FIVE AND A HALF PERCENT AT SIX POINT THREE MILLION TO OVER NINE POINT ONE MILLION, OR ALMOST UP TO THE NINE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN HOTEL REVENUES.

THAT IS JUST HOTEL REVENUES ALONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SUPPLY GROWTH ON THE ISLAND AND JUST CONSIDER THAT THE ONLY INCREASE IN HOTELS HAS BEEN IN THE LIMITED SERVICE SEGMENT, MEANING THOSE WITHOUT SUCH SERVICES AS FOOD AND BEVERAGE, SPA, BALLET AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR YEARS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AT FIRST WE TALKED ABOUT THE HIGH CLASS TRAVELER, BUT THE HIGH HEEL ON THE SAND BUT THAT'S NOT THAT IT'S THE ONE THAT'S STAYING LONGER, SPENDING MORE MONEY.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE STARTING TO SEE.

YOU KNOW, AND AS WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF BUILDING PERMITS AND ALL THAT.

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WHEN I FIRST STARTED WITH COUNCIL ONE THING I'D ASK WAS, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WISH WE'D LOOK AT SOME OF THESE FULL SERVICE HOTELS AND ALL THAT AND STILL GOING TO STAND BY THAT.

YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME FULL SERVICE BUILDERS COME INTO, ONTO THE ISLAND AND HELP US WITH THAT FULL SERVICE EXPERIENCE.

YES, SIR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF A FLOW CHART SHOW ON THE DATA? YEAH.

SO IN YOUR PACKETS THAT WE PROVIDED BE WHAT, ON THAT GALVESTON PARK BOARD UPDATE SECTION ON PAGE TWO, YOU'LL START SEEING SOME OF THAT SPRING BREAK OCCUPANCY INFORMATION.

SO PERHAPS HAVE SOME BEACH PARK NUMBERS, HOTEL OCCUPANCY RATES AND FORECAST.

AND SPRING BREAK, MARCH 7, 2014.

TWENTY THROUGH TWENTY ONE.

THOSE WILL BE ALL THE NUMBERS THAT I JUST PRESENTED AND ACTUALLY GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE DETAIL THERE ON THE SCREEN.

SO I JUST GAVE YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS, BUT WE GO INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL IN YOUR PACKET WITH A LOT MORE NUMBERS.

I WAS GIVEN AN HOUR OR SO I'M TRYING NOT TO TAKE UP ALL THE TIME HERE.

SPENCER, WILL YOU HAVE HER ROLL UP, JANELLE, IF YOU DON'T MIND TO THE TOP WHERE THE PARK PERFORMANCE INDICATORS ARE.

AND YOU CAN SEE SPECIFICALLY DR.

BROWN'S QUESTION.

IN MARCH OF 2019, WE DID TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND TRANSACTIONS FOR THE SPRING BREAK WEEKEND.

TWO WEEKS IN 2021, WE GET THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND.

THAT REPORT THAT RESULTED IN TWO HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS AS OPPOSED TO SIXTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO I'M.

GO AHEAD.

NO, NO, TAKE IT FROM THERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY TO NOTE YOU KNOW, WE DID INCREASE THAT FEE FROM A DOLLAR TO TWO DOLLARS PER HOUR PRIOR TO SPRING BREAK DURING MARCH.

AND THEN THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS INCREASED BY MORE THAN 50 PERCENT YEAR OVER YEAR, INDICATING A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VISITORS.

SO WITH THOSE NUMBERS, YOU'LL SEE THAT.

SO FROM 2019 TO TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND.

MARCH, 2020 TWENTY ONE THOUSAND NINETEEN SIXTY SIX AND THEN MARCH 2021 THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND NINE FIFTY ONE.

AND THE SEAWALL URBAN PARK TRANSACTIONS, THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT THERE.

SO, DR. BROWN.

YES, SIR, I THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT, APPRECIATE IT.

SPENCER.

AND SO IF I CAN, I WOULD ADD, THOUGH, THAT IT WASN'T JUST TO THE TWO DOLLARS, IF YOU LOOK DOWN, DELLANERA, STEWART BEACH AND EAST BEACH BROUGHT IN TWO TO THREE TIMES WHAT THEY DID IN 2019, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE BENCHMARKING WE'RE NOT BENCHMARKING OURSELVES AGAINST 2020, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO ALL OF OUR COASTAL ASSETS ARE IN HIGH DEMAND.

AND WHEN I TALK TO MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE STATE, THEY WOULD LOVE TO BE IN A PLACE LIKE GALVESTON WHERE WE'VE GOT BIG OPEN SPACE, SHORT TERM RENTALS, GREAT HOTEL PRODUCT, AND IT'S REALLY PROVEN RESILIENT FOR US IN THE SHORT TERM.

ALL RIGHT, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THERE? COUNCILMAN QUIROGA, DOES THAT HELP WITH YOUR QUESTION ? [INAUDIBLE] OK, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND JUST A NOTE ON THAT, SO WHEN YOU DO LOOK AT THAT GRAPH, YOU MIGHT NOTE THAT AND THINK THAT WHEN YOU SEE THAT 2016 NUMBER AND THINK THAT OCCUPANCY WAS THE KEY INDICATOR BY SAYING IT WAS THE HIGHEST.

BUT WHEN YOU JUST LOOK AT THAT REVENUE NUMBER, IT WAS ONLY SEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION, SO IT JUST GOES BACK TO WHAT I HAD SAID EARLIER AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT VISITOR WHO STAYS LONGER, PAYS MORE.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THIS FROM, YOU KNOW, ME WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY, IN THE HOTELS AND WE ARE SEEING IT FIRSTHAND.

YOU KNOW.

AS I HOPE, AS WE GET MORE MEETINGS SCHEDULED WITH COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO BRING BACK ADDITIONAL UPDATES TO SHARE ON OUR PERFORMANCE AND JUST CONTINUE TO TALK MORE ABOUT OUR TERRORISM CASE.

I WOULD GET INTO MORE ABOUT THE ASSETS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN OUR FUTURE PRESENTATIONS.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE RESULTS, WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD NUMBERS AND, YOU KNOW, I MET WITH MY CORPORATE OFFICE HERE THIS WEEK AND THEY WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT GALVESTON AND WE JUST DON'T CELEBRATE OUR SUCCESSES ENOUGH.

YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT OURSELVES AS, OH, MY GOSH, IT'S ANOTHER WEEKEND, WE'RE GOING TO GET BEAT UP, WE'RE WORKING OURSELVES TO DEATH, AND WE JUST DON'T TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE RESULTS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WOW, LOOK AT WHAT GALVESTON IS DOING COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE STATE, THE COUNTRY.

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AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, PARK BOARD, THE STAFF, THE EMPLOYEES.

YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY PHENOMENAL, THE RESULTS.

SO.

IT'S AMAZING, REALLY, WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED SO, BUT ANYWAY I DIGRESS.

SO, COUNCILMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME ON THE PERFORMANCE? KELLY, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, JUST HOLD ON, BUCKLE UP AND HOLD ON, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A SUMMER AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT SPENCER STARTED TO TALK ABOUT OVER HERE IS THAT BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND INDUSTRY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE LIVE WITH INSIDE OF A COMMUNITY AND THAT THE INDUSTRY IS HERE TO SUPPORT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR ECONOMY, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT IN BALANCE.

SO YOU'LL HEAR THAT A LOT COMING OUT FROM US AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE MORE AND MORE VISITATION HERE ON THE ISLAND AND WANT TO STRUCTURE THAT IN A MANNER THAT IS BENEFICIAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES.

SPENCER, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

A LOT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT, SHORT TERM RENTALS.

WHAT IS THE CLIMATE BETWEEN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PEOPLE AND THE HOTELS? THE CLIMATE? YES.

THE CLIMATE, THE CLIMATE, HOW WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN Y'ALL? THANK YOU.

SO, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD ACTUALLY DEFER MORE OF THAT TO THE HOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION TO GET THEIR INPUT MORE THAN THE PARK BOARD JUST MANAGING THE.

ASSETS THAT.

AND I'M TRYING TO THINK IF I'VE HEARD MORE RUMBLINGS [INAUDIBLE] NOW, I'M ASSOCIATED WITH TWO HOTELS HERE ON THE ISLAND AND.

AND, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS WHOLE COVID EVENT.

WE MAINTAINED NUMBER ONE IN OUR COMP SETS ON OUR SMITH TRAVEL RESEARCH REPORT, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY THAT THEY TOOK ANYTHING OUT OF MY HOTELS.

WE PERFORMED EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.

WE SAW AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CLIENTELE GOING TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL THAN CAME TO THE HOTELS RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS THAT CONTINUED SHIFT AND DECLINE IN REVENUES DUE TO THE 80 YARD DECLINE, AND THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN MORE FEARFUL OF THE ENTIRE TIME WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE HOTELS AND THE CONTINUED SHORT TERM RENTALS IS THAT DILUTION OF HOT.

SO WHEN YOU ASK ME THAT, I LOOK AT IT FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT AND HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR HEART AND THE REVENUE COMING INTO THE ISLAND, AND TO THE PARK BOARD.

SPENCER, IF I CAN AND COUNCIL MEMBER QUIROGA, I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU THAT I SIT ON THE BOARD FOR GH AND LA AT TIMES AND THE SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE POSITIONS ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD, THEY'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, IN PUTTING A PRODUCT OUT THERE.

JUDD? HEY, SPENCER, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

IT'S WILLIAM SCHUSTER HERE, YOU SAID THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT GOAL OF OUR TOURISTS WHERE WE WANT TO SEE THEM STAY LONGER AND SPEND MORE MONEY.

AND THAT'S BEEN A GOAL FOR A LONG TIME.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTION TO THAT GOING ON RIGHT NOW? YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE HAVING SUCCESS IN IT.

DO YOU THINK IT'S PENT UP DEMAND FROM COVID? AND IT'S OBVIOUS THAT IF IT IS ALL THE STUFF WE ARE DOING, WHAT ONE OR TWO FIELDS YOU THINK WE'RE LEADING AS FAR AS SPORTS, TOURISM OR ECO TOURISM? WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING TO GET THIS HIGH QUALITY TOURIST THAT WANTS TO STAY LONGER? BECAUSE THE REASON I ASK IS THAT IF WE'RE DOING THAT, OR DO WE NEED TO EXPAND ON WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT? SO I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL FACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILDING UP TO THIS IS THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE HOTELS AND THAT INVOLVEMENT OVER THE YEARS WITH OUR CVS WORKING SO CLOSELY, THE HOTELS HAVE BEEN EDUCATED ON SETTING NOT ONLY THE STAY RESTRICTIONS IN COMBINATION WITH THE MARKETING MESSAGE AND BUILDING THAT FURTHER OUT, WHETHER TARGETING THE DRIVE IN MARKETS.

SO WHEN WE STOP JUST MARKETING IN OUR BACKYARD BECAUSE HOUSTON WAS COMING NO MATTER WHAT.

SO WHEN WE STARTED GOING AND GETTING MORE OF THAT, SAN ANTONIO, AUSTIN, THAT FURTHER OUT, THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY HELPED DRIVE THAT LONGER LENGTH OF STAY.

AND WE SEE IT IN OUR WHAT WE CALL OUR CRM REPORTS.

THE WHERE ARE THE CUSTOMERS COMING FROM AT THE HOTEL? SO NO LONGER IS IT JUST HOUSTON.

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SO NOW WHEN IT RAINS, THE HOTELS AREN'T JUST AUTOMATICALLY DUMPING RATES JUST TO TRY TO FILL LAST MINUTE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THOSE PEOPLE FROM DALLAS OR SAN ANTONIO THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.

SO A LOT OF THAT IS BASED UPON THAT MARKETING MESSAGE.

NOW, COVID DID HAVE SOME TO DO WITH IT IN THIS SHORT TERM 2020, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE OFF WORK AND THEY WERE ABLE TO STAY OUT.

BUT IF YOU TAKE OUT 2020, WE HAD ALREADY STARTED SEEING THAT IN 2019.

SO THAT'S FOR THAT LONGER.

LENGTH OF STAY PERSON.

YOU KNOW, THE CRUISE SHIPS NOT BEING HERE HAS ALSO HELPED BECAUSE THAT CRUISE SHIP PERSON WAS A ONE NIGHT STAY.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, THEY WERE ONLY COMING FOR THE NIGHT BEFORE, TYPICALLY, MAYBE A COUPLE OF NIGHTS.

BUT THAT'S NOT USUALLY BECAUSE THEIR VACATION WAS THE CRUISE SHIP.

SO NOT HAVING THE CRUISE SHIPS ALSO HELPS WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING HERE FOR THE ONE NIGHT STAY.

NOT SAYING THAT THE CRUISE SHIPS DON'T MATTER.

DON'T GET ME WRONG FOR THE POOR PEOPLE OUT THERE, YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT BEATING.

BUT THAT'S, I'M JUST SAYING THAT DID HELP WITH THE LENGTH OF STAYS.

NOW TO GETTING TO YOUR SPORTS.

SO THE CHEER MARKETS, THE DANCE MARKETS, THOSE HAVE BEEN BIG.

I KNOW BRIAN AND THE CITY BECAUSE I SAID ON IBC, WE'VE SEEN THE BASEBALL TOURNAMENTS.

SO THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS INCREASED WITH THE SPORTS FIELD AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONTINUED MARKET.

THE, KELLY WAS IT, FRISBIE TOURNAMENTS THAT WE HAD OUT AT EAST BEACH.

OUR LARGEST VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT IN 30 YEARS, HAPPENED IN EAST BEACH THIS LAST YEAR.

THE SPORTS COMMISSION IS GOING OFF THE CHARTS.

AND THEN I THINK THE CONVENTION CENTER HAD THE, GOSH, GAMING TOURNAMENT, I CAN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WAS CALLED, EGAMING? ESPORTS.

ESPORTS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT, WE'VE TAPPED INTO THOSE TYPE OF SPORTS MARKETS.

CAN I JUST SUMMED THAT UP, SPENCER? COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER, WE ARE AN OUTDOOR RECREATION DESTINATION AND THE MORE THAT WE CAN INVEST IN OUR OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ASSETS THAN THE MORE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE.

THE FIELDS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT WHAT THEY'VE GOT IN LAKE CITY.

THEY'RE NOT THE FIELD OF DREAMS. I'M BEING BLUNT.

I AM.

THEY STILL SELL BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A TOURNAMENT, YOU WANT TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE DOWN HERE AS POSSIBLE.

AND GALVESTON'S A DESTINATION.

WE'RE A FAMILY DESTINATION.

SO EVERY TIME THEY BRING ONE OF THOSE TOURNAMENTS IN, THEY DO WELL.

THEY MAKE MONEY BECAUSE THEY GOT A LOT OF PARTICIPATION BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S BRINGING THEIR WHOLE FAMILY.

AS LONG AS LITTLE JANIE IS DOING HER SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A WEEK VACATION DOWN HERE.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WHAT SPENCER SAID IS WE WERE ALREADY PUSHING TO THE DRIVE-IN MARKETS.

[INAUDIBLE] CAME FROM OKLAHOMA, KANSAS CITY.

YOU WERE GOING TO SPEND LONGER HERE BECAUSE IT TOOK YOU LONGER TO GET HERE.

WE STARTED THAT YEARS AGO AND WHEN COVID HIT AND THE FLIGHTS ALL CAME DOWN.

HOLY COW, WE WILL GOLDEN BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, HAVE YOU BEEN DOWN TO SEAWALL? LOOK AT THE LICENSE PLATES WHEN YOU COME DOWN.

IT'S JUST AMAZING WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE THAT CLOSE PROXIMITY MARKET AT HOUSTON THAT EVERYBODY'S GOING AFTER AND HAS BEEN A GREAT MARKET FOR US ALL THE TIME.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE [INAUDIBLE] YOUR INVESTMENTS.

MY PITCH IS TO PUT THOSE IN THE PARK BOARD GALAXY OF GALVESTON ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON, ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE.

IT'S GOOD FOR RESIDENTS AND IT'S GOOD FOR US IN THE INDUSTRY AS WELL.

AND NOT JUST THE TRADITIONAL.

WE NEED SOME CRABBING PIERS AND SOME MORE BOAT LAUNCHES.

WE SHOULD BE A WORLD CLASS RECREATIONAL DESTINATION COMMUNITY.

AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE HERE, WE GET IN FOR FREE.

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT ON THE BEACH AND THE STATE, DOESN'T MANAGE IT, IF IT'S OURS, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND IF YOU'RE FROM OFF THE ISLAND, THEN YOU'RE PAYING A USER FEE AND THAT CAN HELP TO SUPPORT IT ALL.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I SHOULD THROW IT OUT TO THE SOCCER FIELDS THAT IDC JUST APPROVED FOR FUNDING, TOO, OUT IN DISTRICT 6.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS STARTED FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT MAN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT TOURISM CAN PAY AS WELL.

GET THOSE TOURISTS TO PAY FOR HELP TO FUND THAT, THAT'LL BE SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE.

ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? SPENCER, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT? YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ITEM FOR US THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT TODAY.

THAT SOCCER COMPLEX, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF FUNDS FROM THE IDC PARK [INAUDIBLE] TO GET IT GOING.

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IF WE'RE USING IT FOR THE SPORTS TOURISM IDEA.

WHAT PARTNERSHIP EXACTLY DO WE HAVE WITH THE PARK BOARD? BECAUSE MY ISSUE REALLY WITH IT IS ONCE WE BUILD IT, WHAT DO WE ,WHAT ARE WE REALLY DOING WITH IT OUT THERE? BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY, ONE THING THAT HIT ME IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS IS NOW MAINTENANCE SO THESE NICE FIELDS THAT WE WANT TO USE TO ATTRACT OUR PEOPLE HERE AND MAINTENANCE ON ONE FOOTBALL FIELD, SOCCER FIELD, PRETTY EXPENSIVE YEARLY.

AND THEN TIMES THAT BY FIVE TO SIX, YOU KNOW WHO DOES THAT FALL [INAUDIBLE]? THIS ISN'T A ONE TIME INVESTMENT LIKE [INAUDIBLE] PARK, LIKE YOU WOULD SEE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE CONSTANT MAINTENANCE, CONSTANT FUNDS TO KEEP GOING.

SO WHO EXACTLY WILL BE LEADING THE CHARGE ON THAT WHEN WE SAY SPORTS TOURISM AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING FUNDING TO PAY FOR THAT.

WELL, THAT IS GOING TO BE A CITY ASSET.

SO, YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE], KELLY AND I TALK ABOUT TOURISM PAYS AND INVESTING IN THE CITY ASSETS AND VISITORS PAYING FOR THOSE ASSETS.

SO THESE WOULD BE ALL FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, LET US COME BACK ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND LET'S START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

LET'S PUT THE PLANS TOGETHER.

HOW CAN WE GET THE VISITOR PAYING FOR THE CITY ASSETS? THAT IS OUR DREAM TO SEE HOW CAN WE REINVEST IN ALL THESE CITY ASSETS.

WE HAD OUR CITY PARKS, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE KELLY SAID, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE IT FOR THE RESIDENTS BUT LET'S LET THE TOURISTS PAY FOR THE CITY ASSETS.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE PARK BOARD WOULD LOVE TO SIT WITH CITY COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE TOURNAMENTS WE BRING IN IS PAYING A TOURNAMENT FEE, AND THAT'S ALL ACCRUING DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SUGGESTED IS THAT IF YOU PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES, YOU CAN CHARGE MORE MONEY OUT OF THOSE BALLFIELDS.

WE'RE NOT CHARGING A LOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE REALLY AND THIS IS NOT ANY CONDEMNATION THIS IS OLD INFRASTRUCTURE ON AN ISLAND, A BARRIER ISLAND THAT NEEDS SOME INVESTMENT.

AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER FIELDS.

BUT IF WE PUT SOME MORE MONEY INTO THESE, YOU CAN CHARGE MORE MONEY.

SO THE IDEA IS THAT YOU GET A RETURN ON IT.

I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE TO BALANCE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE FIELDS ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST ALWAYS FOR RESIDENTS AND WE'RE PLAYING AROUND THEM AND SELLING THEM ONCE THAT THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION WITH WHAT SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD ALREADY, EVERYTHING FOR THE TOURISTS AND NOTHING FOR THE RESIDENTS.

THESE ASSETS SQUARELY SIT FIRST WITH THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

IF WE HAVE SOME BETTER SERVICES OUT THERE, WE CAN CHARGE MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE CHARGING ALREADY.

BUT ALL THOSE TOURNAMENTS WE'RE BRINGING IN ARE PAYING USER FEES.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THOSE ANSWERS.

I HAD A QUESTION, WHAT ABOUT THE, MAYBE CONTRIBUTION OVER FROM THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX TO OFFSET MAKE THIS COST.

WE DON'T REPRESENT THE HOTEL MOTEL ASSOCIATION.

YEAH.

AND REMEMBER THIS, OVER THE LAST THREE, FOUR MONTHS, WE'VE PAID THE CITY OF GALVESTON FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OUT OF SEAWALL PARK, WE'RE GETTING TEED UP TO PAY ANOTHER THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OUT OF SEAWALL PARK THIS YEAR.

YOU KNOW, I HAD ALWAYS SUGGESTED THAT THAT MONEY SHOULD COME OUT OF YOUR PARKS AND INTO YOUR PARKS.

THAT'S A GREAT CONTRIBUTION FOR THE PARKS THAT WE OPERATE THAT ARE GENERATING, REVENUE GENERATING TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION OVER TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON PARKS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY USED BY RESIDENTS.

YOU KNOW, AND AS WE CONTINUE TO KICK UP AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT ONE AT THE STEWART BEACH AS WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE AMENITIES AND MAKE MORE MONEY, THAT WE CAN TRANSFER MORE MONEY BACK INTO THE SYSTEM FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THE OVERARCHING SYSTEM.

THAT'S THE CONTRIBUTION THAT WE CAN MAKE.

RIGHT.

COMES FROM THE TRICKLE DOWN FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT AT OUR BUDGET TIME ON HOW THAT MONEY WILL BE UTILIZED.

AND THEN WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR ARTS AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION ALSO.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT ON THOSE MONEYS.

BUT MAINLY IT'S THAT TRICKLE DOWN MONEY THAT COMES IN THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT AT BUDGET TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD DISCUSSION, I THINK.

THANK Y'ALL.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE, SORRY.

AS KELLY SAID, WE HAVE AN NEXT ITEM, ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA DISCUSS STEWART BEACH DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS.

AND WITH US TODAY, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DAVID JACOBY.

AND DAVID, I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO YOU, SIR.

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THANK YOU, SPENCER.

SO I'LL GIVE A BRIEF HISTORICAL CONTEXT HERE.

I THINK EVERYONE IS AT LEAST SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH STEWART BEACH AND THE ASSETS WE HAVE THERE.

BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S A PAVILION THERE THAT IS APPROACHING 40 YEARS OLD AND IS PAST ITS USEFUL LIFE AND TRANSITIONING INTO THE STAGE OF DETERIORATION NOW AND IN ADVANCE.

RECOGNIZING THAT THIS WAS ABOUT TO OCCUR, THE PARK BOARD A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO BEGAN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING FOR WHAT WILL BE THE PREDECESSOR TO THE CURRENT PAVILION THERE.

AND SOME TIME, EFFORT AND DISCUSSIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WAS UNDERTAKEN OVER THE COURSE OF2018, 2019, I BELIEVE, TO COME UP WITH NEW TYPES OF NEEDS THAT THE TYPES OF WANTS AND NEEDS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON STEWART BEACH.

SO SOME OF THIS IS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BEACH PATROL AND OTHER FUNCTIONS NEED TO HAVE IN THAT SPACE AND SOME OF THIS IS AMENITIES TO MAKE THAT PARK MORE USEFUL AND ATTRACTIVE TO TOURISTS AND RESIDENTS.

AND WHAT CAME BACK OUT OF THAT PROCESS WAS A PROPOSED PAVILION, I THINK WAS DEEMED TOO EXPENSIVE AND THE OLI WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY VISIBLE THERE.

SO WE TOOK A STEP BACK AND REEVALUATED WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GET THE BEST YIELD OUT OF THAT PARK FOR GALVESTON.

AND WHAT WE KIND OF QUICKLY REALIZED WAS WE'RE NOT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO HERE IS ESSENTIALLY A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO INSTEAD OF US SPENDING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT FOR US TO DEVELOP SOMETHING ON STEWART BEACH TO ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTS, TOURISTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, WHY DON'T WE TAP THE PRIVATE MARKETS AND HAVE THEM COME IN AND LET'S FIGURE OUT A DEAL TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN WHO CAN BETTER YIELD THAT ASSET FOR US AND BETTER CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SERVE GALVESTON AND BE IMPACTFUL FOR TOURISTS AND RESIDENTS.

AND THIS, IN MY OPINION, AND I THINK A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HERE SHARE THIS OPINION.

THIS IS THE FINEST BEACHFRONT REAL ESTATE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

YOU ARE ZERO TURNS AWAY FROM THE BIGGEST CITY IN OUR STATE.

YOU GO STRAIGHT INTO A DEAD END AND YOU'RE IN STEWART BEACH.

AND WE SEE THE FRUITS OF THAT NOW.

AND IT'S ONE OF OUR MOST VISIBLE AND OUR MOST POPULAR SITES.

SO WE STEP BACK TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD A DEAL LOOK LIKE WITH A PRIVATE DEVELOPER.

AND IT'S NOT A SIMPLE UNDERTAKING.

SO PART OF THAT PROCESS WAS, CAN WE EVEN ATTRACT SOMEONE TO COME IN AND DEVELOP SOMETHING ON THIS BEACH? AND THEN PART OF THAT IS IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO COME IN AND DEVELOP THIS BEACH ALONGSIDE US, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS FOR US.

IT WORKS FOR US IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED.

IT NEEDS TO WORK FOR US FINANCIALLY AND IT NEEDS TO WORK FOR US IN A WAY THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE ECOLOGICALLY PRESERVING THIS ASSET AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS AND FEELS GOOD FOR GALVESTON.

AND IT WAS DETERMINED FAIRLY EARLY ON THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES.

SO WE HAD A TASK FORCE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, THE MEMBERS OF WHICH ARE IN THE PACKET, BUT LED BY MYSELF, DAVID COLLINS, MARTY CLOOK, JASON HARDCASTLE AND JASON WORTHEN AND THEN THROUGH THAT, WE'VE BEEN LIAISING PRETTY EXTENSIVELY WITH PARK BOARD STAFF ON PROJECTIONS OR INFRASTRUCTURE OR VARIOUS ASPECTS THAT REQUIRE ATTENTION, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

WE PUT OUT AN RFP TO SOLICIT A GROUP TO HELP US RUN THIS PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY SELECTED JONES LANG LASALLE AND JLL.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JLL OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS TO BETTER FRAME WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND THEN ACTUALLY PUT OUT AN RFQ REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS TO GO OUT TO MARKET AND GIVE A HIGHER LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE POTENTIAL OF THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.

SO THIS [INAUDIBLE] INTEREST FROM WHICH WE CAN THEN DERIVE AN RFP REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND HAVE A MUCH MORE SPECIFIC SET OF CRITERIA.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING DEVELOPERS TO COME IN TO DO.

BUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO ULTIMATELY DO IS CREATE A PROCESS WHEREBY THERE'S MULTIPLE POTENTIAL QUALIFIED BIDDERS AND WE SET THE RULES, WE SET THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT HERE.

AND THAT CAN BE THE SPECIFIC INGREDIENTS OF A DEVELOPMENT.

WE WANT TO SEE WHETHER IT'S GREEN SPACE, WHETHER IT'S RESTAURANT, WHETHER IT'S CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR FOR EACH PATROL.

WE CAN SET TIMELINES AND BUDGETS AND WE ARE NOT BOUND TO PICK ANY ONE ONCE WE START AN RFP PROCESS, THOUGH, I THINK THE SUGGESTION HERE IS IF WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS PATH, WE SHOULD BE PREPARED TO SELECT SOMEONE SO AS YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH YOUR BACK.

AND HERE THERE IS AN IMAGE THAT SHOWS VARIOUS TRACKS AND SEE YOU ALL DOWN HERE.

THERE'S A, B AND C.

SO B, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS THE AREA THAT WE ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND DEVELOP ALONGSIDE US, THAT IS THE AREA CLOSEST TO THE SEAWALL, IT PREVIOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

IT PREVIOUSLY HAS HELD VARIOUS AMENITIES, RESTAURANTS, RECREATION, GO CARTS, PUTT PUTT, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

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SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PROPOSED NEW USE THAT HAS NOT BEEN SEEN IN THAT PORTION OF STEWART BEACH, PREVIOUSLY.

PARTS OF C THERE, WOULD BE PARKING AND THAT IS ALREADY USED IN PARK [INAUDIBLE] WOULD CONTINUE TO BE PARKING A AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE BEACH AND THE LARGEST AREA OF THE BEACH WOULD CONTINUE TO BE UNDEVELOPED AND UNIMPROVED LAND THAT WOULD BE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON MAINTAINING BEACH AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DIVISION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR WHEN I SAY STEWART BEACH, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS THAT GO DOWN TO THE OCEAN OR DOWN EVEN TO THE DEW LINE.

WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON THE PARCEL OF LAND THAT HUGS THE SEA WALL CLOSEST TO THE CENTER OF THE SITE THERE.

SO THERE WE ARE GOING FORWARD WITH AN RFQ OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS HERE AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR TODAY AND WHAT WE WANTED TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL TODAY WAS REALLY JUST A SOLICITATION OF SUPPORT.

WE ARE NOT ASKING RIGHT NOW FOR ANY SPECIFIC COMMITMENT FROM COUNCIL OF RESOURCES OR MONEY, BUT GIVEN THIS IS A VISIBLE AND POTENTIALLY IMPACTFUL TO OUR ISLANDS OFFERINGS, BOTH FOR RESIDENTS AND FOR TOURISTS.

GIVEN THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION HERE, WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH COUNCIL ON THAT.

EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE PATH WE ARE TAKING FORWARD AS WE GO THROUGH THE RFQ AND RFP PROCESS, EXCUSE ME, AND ULTIMATELY GET RESPONSES.

WE WANT TO BE COLLABORATING WITH COUNCIL AND MAKE SURE COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING BACK, OPINE ON THOSE, HELP US MAKE SELECTIONS THERE AND HELP US MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS AS FEASIBLE AS WE EXPECT IT WILL BE.

SO THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

WITH REGARDS TO TIMELINE, WE ARE WORKING FOR A SITE VISIT FROM THE TEAM AT JOHNS LINE LASALLE IN THE UPCOMING MONTH HERE IN MAY.

THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO OCCUR EARLIER.

BUT AS WITH MANY THINGS, COVID HAS FORCED THE NEW REALITY UPON US.

AND THEN IN JUNE AND JULY, WE WOULD REALLY START TO RAMP UP THE COMMUNICATION WITH POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS AND HAVE THE RFQ DOCUMENT IN THEIR HANDS AND START HAVING SOME OF THESE POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS COME DOWN, AND PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND SEE THE SITE.

WE THINK THAT IS GREAT TIMING FOR US FOR A FEW REASONS.

A, IT IS NOT FAR FROM NOW AND KIND OF KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING.

BUT B, HAVING DEVELOPERS COME AND LOOK AT WHAT THE SITE CAN DO AND WHAT ITS POTENTIAL IS .

IN JULY WE'LL SHOW A LOT BETTER THAN IT MAY IN FEBRUARY.

SO WE THINK THAT'S A HELPFUL, WILL HELP THE TIMING FOR US.

SO, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE HERE JUST REALLY TO ASK FOR SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS.

AND NO SPECIFIC RESOURCE REQUEST AT THIS TIME.

BUT I'LL PAUSE THERE AND ALLOW FOR SOME QUESTIONS.

I HAVE THE QUESTION, HASN'T THIS BEEN DONE MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE? DID Y'ALL LOOK AT ANY OF THOSE PAST PLANS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PARK BOARD HAS SOLICITED AT LEAST ONE THAT STANDS OUT IN MY MIND OR IF NOT TWO PREVIOUSLY.

OK, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, SINCE I STARTED, MARIE, WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH COMING TO COUNCIL PRESENTING TO PREVIOUS COUNCILS AND THEN COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN, BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL, PRESENT IT, AND THEN SAID, WELL, GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND TRY THIS AND BRING IT BACK.

SO WE DO HAVE A MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL THAT WE WERE WORKING FROM.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED WITH AND WE'RE TASKED WITH.

WE'LL TRY SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE PARK BOARD GETS THE TURNOVER OF COUNCILS THAT WE GET IN A LOOP OR WE COME TO ASK FOR UP AND DOWN THE DIRECTION TO GO.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR COMING TO A RESOLUTION ON THIS SO WE CAN GET THAT DIRECTION OF WHERE THE PARK BOARD NEEDS TO GO, BECAUSE EVERY TIME, WE WANT THIS COUNCIL TO GIVE US JUST KIND OF SOME DIRECTION, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

AND I'LL ADD ON TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LONGER TERM DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF PROCESS THAT WE CAN GET DONE WITHIN ONE FISCAL YEAR.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT SPANS SEVERAL FISCAL YEARS.

SO I THINK TO PIGGYBACK ON SPENCER'S POINT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A BIT OF A THROUGH LINE HERE WITH COUNCIL.

AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TURN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

BUT THERE IS A UNDERSTOOD DIRECTIVE WHERE COUNCIL AND THE PARKS BOARD CAN KIND OF

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HAVE A MEETING OF GOALS HERE AND, YOU KNOW, SPENCER IS CORRECT.

THERE WERE SOME PRELIMINARY WORK THAT WAS DONE TO DO SOME MASSIVE ON THE SITE AND THERE'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE SITE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT COULD BE PUT THERE AND WHAT DIFFERENT FACTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO BE PUT ON THAT SITE.

AND WE USE THAT TO VERY HEAVILY INFORM THE PROCESS AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

BUT IN THAT TRI ITERATION WE WERE DISCUSSING THE PLAN AT THAT TIME WAS THE PARKS BOARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FINANCE THAT PROJECT OURSELVES AND THAT DEVELOPMENT OURSELVES.

AND WE DID THAT.

AND I THINK THIS IS A FAR MORE EFFICIENT WAY FORWARD.

IF WE CAN HAVE A BETTER ASSET BUILT FOR OUR ISLAND, HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE BUILD IT FOR US.

AND INSTEAD OF US PAYING TWENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TO DEVELOP THAT ASSET FOR US OUT OF OUR OWN BALANCE SHEET, WE USE TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE PAY US FOR IT AND WE'RE MAKING MONEY OFF THE PROCESS RATHER THAN SPENDING IT.

AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING HARD TO GET IT ALL IN LINE THERE.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD FOR [INAUDIBLE] IN THE FUTURE HERE.

SO OUR EYES ARE FORWARD SO.

THANK YOU.

A [INAUDIBLE] THE COUNCIL AND PARK BOARD BEFORE.

WE MOVE WITH OTHER QUESTIONS HERE ON THAT.

DAVID, YOU'RE REQUESTING, YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT A RESOLUTION, DAVID JACOBY.

DAVID COLLINS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL BE BRINGING AS THE [INAUDIBLE] BACK TO COUNCIL COMING UP HERE? WELL, NOT IMMEDIATELY.

AND CERTAINLY COULD DO IT THAT WAY.

BUT I THINK DAVID'S PRESENTATION HERE TODAY IS MOSTLY TO JUST DEMONSTRATE TO COUNCIL THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP SO THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE MOVING, THE DIRECTION WE'RE MOVING ON THIS SO THAT WE DON'T GET SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.

AND AS A PRIVATE PARTNER, WE'RE TALKING TO AND COUNCIL SAYS, WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT? SO I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP BRING A RESOLUTION TO THE TABLE ON THIS.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS MOSTLY TODAY INFORMATIONAL.

DO YOU HAVE OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? BUT THIS IS MOSTLY JUST TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING, WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

YOU KNOW, MARIE IS RIGHT.

THERE HAVE BEEN MANY PLANS IN THE PAST, THEY'VE BEEN UP AND DOWN AND BACK AND FORTH.

BUT AS SPENCER POINTS OUT THERE'S A MASTER PLAN THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2015.

THAT TASKS FOR OUR PARK BOARD WAS DEVELOPING THAT AREA.

AND I THINK THIS IS JUST THE CULMINATION OF THAT WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING, I THINK, SOME MORE TRACTION NOW WITH THE NOTION OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

IT MAY EVEN NOT BE DOABLE.

THERE MAY BE HURDLES WE CAN'T GET ACROSS, BUT WE NEED TO ASK THIS.

AND I THINK THIS TASK FORCE IS EXACTLY THE APPROACH WE NEED TO BE TAKING ON THIS.

JUST A THOUGHT ON THAT, DAVID COLLINS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ANY CLEAR GUIDANCE FOR THE PARK BOARD, MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION IN OUR MAY MEETING AND AGAIN, I'D BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

THE PARK BOARD HAS ALREADY FUNDED THE RFQ PROCESS SO DEEP INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS.

BUT I WOULD DO THAT.

I WORK WITH THE SPENCER MAYBE TO BRING A RESOLUTION ON THIS BACK TO COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHERE ARE Y'ALL GOING TO PRIMARILY SEEK THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT? THE PARTNERSHIP? THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

SO THAT'S THE CORE OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

WE PROVIDE THE ASSETS AND THE OPPORTUNITY.

THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY PROVIDES THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR CAPITAL.

SO RATHER THAN THE PARKS BOARD PAY FOR THE PAVILION OURSELVES, WHICH WAS THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED PLAN.

WE'RE UNDER THIS DIRECTIVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRIVATE COMPANY COME IN AND BUILD FOR US SOMETHING TO OUR SPECIFICATION, TO OUR LIKING, SUBJECT TO OUR APPROVAL BEFOREHAND.

AND THEN THEY CAN TRY AND LEASE OUT PREMISES, WHATEVER THEY BUILD? WE'RE LOOKING TO THE APPROPRIATE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE ON THIS.

BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THERE WOULD BE A PAYMENT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD COME FROM THAT PRIVATE ENTITY.

AND WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT PAYMENT EXCEEDS WHAT STEWART BEACH ABSENT A PRIVATE COMPANY COMING IN WILL BE EARNING ON ITS OWN.

SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE DO BETTER THAN BREAK EVEN FROM WHERE WE PREVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE BEEN AND HAVE A MUCH BETTER ASSET PROVIDED.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ON THE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL BURDEN OF FINANCING AND BUILDING A PROJECT OURSELVES.

AS WE GO ON AND EVERYTHING AND YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD MORE AND MORE TO THE STEWART BEACH AREA.

ARE WE MORE OR LESS TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS OUT THERE, WHO OWN PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING INFRINGED ON? WE ARE IN TOUCH WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

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THERE HAVE BEEN AMENITIES IN THE AREAS OF STEWART BEACH IN THE PAST THAT WE'RE ALREADY PROPOSING TO USE WILDLY DIFFERENT FOOTPRINTS OF STEWART BEACH FOR DEVELOPMENT THAN WOULD HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN DEVELOPED UPON.

I GUESS, KELLY, I CAN THROW THIS AT YOU.

WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE STEWART BEACH BARRIER? THOSE ARE PROPERTIES THAT BUTTRESS US.

WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH, OF COURSE, WHEN YOU'RE MANAGING PUBLIC SPACE ON THE BEACH, WHICH SOMETIMES HAPPENS TO BE PRIVATE, THEN THINGS CAN GET A LITTLE CONTENTIOUS SOMETIMES.

BUT ALL IN ALL, WE BRING OUR PARTNERS INTO THE PROCESS.

WE INVITE THEM OVER.

WE DO SHARE WITH THEM THAT WE SHARE, PREDESIGNED WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMPLEMENTS THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL.

[INAUDIBLE].

VERY GOOD.

I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, DR.

BROWN YES.

WHEN YOU GO ALONG FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT ABOUT YOU KNOW, WE HAD A HIGH FIVE HERE NOT TOO LONG AGO AND IN THE AREA OF THE PAVILION, IT FLOODED, WHICH BOTH SIDES OF THE STEWART BEACH AREA, THEY DIDN'T FLOOD.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS THAT AREA FLOODING AND YOUR TWO OUTER AREAS ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF PAVILION NOT FLOODING? I CAN TAKE THAT ONE IF YOU LIKE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO, IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT? I'LL JUST INTRODUCE IT.

BUT WE DO HAVE A ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLAR FUNDED DRAINAGE PROJECT FOR STEWART BEACH THAT WE'RE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT NOW.

WE KNOW THAT STEWART BEACH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.

WE SIT BY ALL OUR NEIGHBORS AT THE PRESERVE.

WE SIT BELOW THE SEAWALL, BELOW WINGS AND MCDONALD'S AND ALL OF THAT TENDS TO GRAVITATE AND DRAIN TOWARDS THE BEACH.

PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL, I BELIEVE THAT WHICH WAS ALSO USED AS A SAND SOURCE TO REPAIR THE SEAWALL BEACHES AFTER HURRICANE IKE.

SO WE TOOK EVEN MORE MATERIAL OFF THAT BEACH AFTER IKE, THOUGH THE PROJECT IS PREDOMINANTLY TO PUT SAND BACK ON THE BEACH SO THAT YOU HAVE A BUFFER ZONE.

IT FILLS, IT'S RESERVOIR ITSELF WHEN YOU'VE GOT MORE SAND ON THE BEACH.

AND SO I SUSPECT THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT'S DRAINING LIKE THAT IS I-45 COMES DOWN INTO STEWART BEACH.

SANDPIPER COMES INTO STEWART BEACH.

WINGS IN STEWART BEACH FOR DRAINAGE.

SO WE'RE GETTING FLOODED.

WE HOPE TO REMEDY THAT THIS OFFSEASON AND THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL, WHO HAS SUPPORTED THAT REQUEST FOR FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OUT OF IDC AND THE OTHER ONE POINT ONE MILLION CAME FROM THE GLO.

SO THANK YOU FOR PRIMING THE PUMP.

WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU.

WELL, HAS THERE BEEN ENGINEERING STUDIES OUT THERE BECAUSE MY QUESTION IS.

OH, MY GOD, YES.

ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, THEY'RE SIGNED, SEALED ENGINEER STUDIES BY AN INTERNATIONALLY ACCREDITED ENGINEERING COMPANY, THE CITY OF GALVESTON ENGINEERING TEAM HAD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND GIVE COMMENT ON THAT.

THE GLO HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND GIVE COMMENT ON THAT.

I SUSPECT I KNOW WHY YOU'RE ASKING, COUNCILMAN QUIROGA, BUT I STAND BEHIND THE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY ATKINS AND FEEL THAT THE WORK WE'RE DOING AND ALL INSTRUCTIONS THAT THEY GOT WAS TO DRAIN EVERYTHING TO THE OCEAN.

NONE OF THOSE PLANS INTEND TO DRAIN ON TO OUR NEIGHBORS, AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING TO US.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

BUT THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS OVER THE YEARS, BECAUSE I'VE LIVED DOWN ON THAT PART OF THE BEACH WHEN I WAS A KID AND A LOT OF IT IS A SECRETION IN THOSE AREAS ARE REALLY BUILDING UP.

THAT'S WHY IT'S, FOR ME, I'M TRYING TO GET A VISUAL AND THE ENGINEERING THAT IS SUPPLIED TO YOU GUYS WHY THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE BEACH IS DIGRESSING AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS BUILDING IT UP ON EACH SIDE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STEWART BEACH, THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO COMPREHEND.

YOU'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THE ENGINEERING.

IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE PASSPORT WEBSITE.

IF YOU JUST GOOGLE GALVESTON PARK BOARD, STEWART BEACH DRAINAGE PROJECT, ALL YOUR ANSWERS CAN BE, ALL YOUR QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED RIGHT THERE.

AND ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT TO SWING BACK AROUND TO ME, COUNCIL MEMBER.

HAPPY TO GO OVER THEM.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON OUR STEWART BEACH DEVELOPMENT? THANK YOU, MR. JACOBY, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR DISCUSSION ON THAT.

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WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA, DISCUSS ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLAR RESTORE GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE.

EAST END LAGOON AND AGAIN, AND WE HAVE TRUSTEE STEPHEN CRITES, FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.

WELCOME, STEPHEN.

THANK YOU.

TAKE IT AWAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

I'M JUST STEPHEN CRITES I'M A PROJECT MANAGER FOR NATURAL HISTORY PROPERTIES, AND I AM ALSO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE EAST END LAGOON ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO SHARE OUR MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTS OUT OF THE EAST END LAGOON AND TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR EFFORTS.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE EAST END LAGOON.

THE LAGOON IS SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR ACRE PARCEL OF LAND ON THE ISLAND'S EASTERN TIP THAT IS PRESERVED FROM DEVELOPMENT.

IT HOUSES A DELICATE ECOSYSTEM WITH A VARIETY OF COASTAL PRAIRIE PLANTS, A VARIETY OF BIRD SPECIES, FISH AND OTHER MARINE LIFE WITH FISHING AVAILABLE AND [INAUDIBLE] ACTIVITIES GO ALONG OUT THERE.

THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE CITY AND WAS DEDICATED TO THE CITY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED IS A RECREATION AREA.

THE EAST END LAGOON IS OVERSEEN BY A CITIZEN LED COMMITTEE.

THE PARK BOARD CONVENES REGULARLY THE EAST END LAGOON ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

RECENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE OUT AT THE LAGOON.

THANKS TO THE EAST END LAGOON ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND PARK BOARD MANAGER CHERYL BRITISHER, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF SEVERAL UPGRADES.

THESE INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A HALF MILE ADA ACCESSIBLE TRAIL TO THE PROPERTY THAT INCLUDES INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE, OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE AREA, AND INCLUDE THE REMOVAL OF THE DOCK LAUNCH, ALLOWING FOR EASIER ACCESS FOR OUR GUESTS TO GET THEIR HUMAN POWERED WATERCRAFT LIKE KAYAKS AND STAND UP PADDLEBOARDS INTO THE WATER, ALONG WITH THE ADDITION OF SEVERAL ADA PARKING SPACES.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE A LOT OF WORK OUT THERE.

THE LAGOON AREA IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD THESE DAYS.

THESE IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE CITY OF GALVESTON, CONCESSION FEES, GRANTS AND FOUNDATIONS.

AND TRULY, BECAUSE THE CITY GINTC AND THE GOL.

TO DATE, THE PARK BOARD HAS GENERATED IN GRANTS AND CONCESSIONS TEN DOLLARS OF OUTSIDE FUNDING FOR EVERY DOLLAR CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY OF GALVESTON TO THIS PROJECT.

AS WELL, THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN OPENING THE AREA TO THE PUBLIC BY CREATING A BRAND IMAGE FOR THE NATURE PRESERVE, INSTALLING SIGNAGE, ORGANIZING PARKING AND OFFERING BOTH VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON TOURS THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GALVESTON ISLAND TOURISM COUNCIL.

AND WE ALSO HAVE PROTECTION EFFORTS THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN UNDERTAKEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY, WHO HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVELY MONITORING THE SITE.

AND KRISTEN VALE, WHO WAS ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IS REALLY TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS.

AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF HER EFFORTS THAT SHE'S BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.

FOR FUTURE PROJECTS IN 2017, THE PARK BOARD RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN GRANT MONEY FROM RESTORE FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT AN OUTDOOR INTERPRETIVE CENTER AT THE LAGOON.

RESTORES IS FUNDING AVAILABLE TO COASTAL COMMUNITIES TO FACILITATE RECREATION AND TOURISM.

AND AFTER AN EXTENDED CONTRACTING PERIOD, THE PARK BOARD IS CURRENTLY EXECUTING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TECQ.

PROJECT COMPONENTS INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE OUTDOOR INTERPRETIVE CENTER BUT ALSO MORE FORMAL PARKING RESTROOMS, ADDITIONAL TRAILS AND INTERPRETIVE AND LANDSCAPE WORK.

ARCHITECTURAL UPDATES AND PERMITTING WILL BEGIN IN THE FALL OF 2021.

CONSTRUCTION IN 2022 AND TOTAL PROJECT COMPLETION NOT ENVISIONED UNTIL 2024.

SO THIS WILL BE AN ONGOING PROJECT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

IN 2019, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A PARK BOARD PRESENTED BUSINESS PLAN THAT SEEKS TO OFFSET THE FREE PUBLIC AMENITIES SUCH AS ACCESS TO THE LAGOON.

, WITH THE FREE OUTDOOR RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES.

THE PARK BOARD WILL BEGIN LOOKING AT IMPROVED FISHING AND CAMPING OPPORTUNITIES TO EARN REVENUE, USER FEES TO [INAUDIBLE] AT LAGOON IN 2022, AND WE EXPECT TO RETURN TO COUNCIL WITH SPECIFIC REQUESTS RELATIVE TO THESE REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES AS

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WE DEVELOP THESE AS WE DEVELOP OUT OF THE AREA.

THERE ARE TWO ITEMS OF IMPORTANCE THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.

THE FIRST ONE IS WE ARE ASKING THE CITY'S SUPPORT IN THE FORM OF A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS TO SUPPORT THE NEXT PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUTDOOR AMENITIES.

THE REQUEST WAS ENDORSED BY THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL OF THE BUSINESS PLAN, BUT REQUIRES SUBSEQUENT ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO DISPERSE.

THE SECOND ITEM IS A LONGER TERM ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THE CONDITION OF BODDEKER ROAD SO THAT THE TRAFFIC BOOTS OR THESE OR OTHER OUTDOOR RECREATIONISTS CAN ENJOY THE AREA.

CURRENTLY, THE ROAD IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO ACCESSING THE AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE RAISED OR PROTECTED.

SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT WE ARE UNDERTAKING OUT AT THE EAST END LAGOON.

AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT OR OUR VISION.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVITE ANY OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE LAGOON.

WE'LL TAKE YOU OUT FOR A TOUR.

SO WITH THAT, IF ANYONE ON COUNCIL OR OTHERWISE HAS QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, STEPHEN.

STEPHEN, YOU ALLUDED TO IT, BUT I WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT IN 2019, MARCH OF 2019, THAT THE PLAN WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

THE COUNCIL VOTED POSITIVELY TO ENDORSE TWO THINGS.

ONE IS THE USE OF THE SUPPORT OF FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAGOON.

AND THE SECOND WAS TO AUTHORIZE THE PARK BOARD TO ACCEPT THE ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLAR RESTORE MONEY, WHICH, AS WE ALL KNOW, TAKES A LITTLE TIME FOR THESE THINGS TO GET THROUGH THE PIPELINE.

BUT HERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY SO THAT PORTION IS JUST REALLY INFORMATIONAL, THAT THE PARK BOARD HAS BEEN APPROVED TO ACCEPT THAT AND TO MAKE THAT CONTRACT WITH RESTORE THE OTHER PART THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN AUTHORIZATION FOR THAT FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR ON A FUTURE, PERHAPS THE MAY AGENDA SO THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAGOON, NOW, WE'VE BEEN TOYING WITH THIS, WATCHING IT.

IT'S BEEN CREEPING ALONG HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

BUT I THINK WE'RE REACHING A CRITICAL MASS POINT NOW WHERE WE CAN REALLY BEGIN SOME SOME HIGH QUALITY ENVIRONMENTAL AND DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE.

AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S FULLY ON BOARD WITH THIS.

THEY REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE FOLKS [INAUDIBLE] EAST BEACH, VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS OF THE LAGOON, THE PROTECTION OF THAT AREA.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COLLINS.

I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN TO THANK YOU.

PARK BOARD.

THIS ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS INFUSION OF CAPITAL THERE FOR THE EAST END LAGOON.

WONDERFUL PURSUIT ON YOUR PART AND WONDERFUL AWARDING OF THAT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT INTERPRETIVE CENTER.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A GAME CHANGER.

AND I THINK THE SPRINGBOARD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT EAST END LAGOON AREA.

AND FOR.

COUNCIL, YOU'LL HEAR [INAUDIBLE] TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

SO PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT, WE'D LOVE FINDING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO USE.

ALL RIGHT.I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT AND REMIND EVERYBODY THAT TODAY, APRIL 22ND IS EARTH DAY.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE A MORE APPROPRIATE DAY TO DISCUSS THE EAST END LAGOON AND THAT WONDERFUL ESTUARY THAN TODAY.

SO THANKS, STEPHEN, FOR THE DISCUSSION TODAY.

AND I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO GO OUT AND SEE THESE [INAUDIBLE].

ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN PRESENTATION OF OUR PARK BOARD 2021-2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS.

AND BEFORE I TURN THIS OVER TO KELLY [INAUDIBLE] TO REVIEW OUR CAPITAL PLANS, I JUST WANT TO GIVE COUNCIL A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS WE WERE JUST TASKED, WE HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH PROJECTING OUT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

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WE OVERSEE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND THIS JUST ALL BECAME PART OF THE INNER LOCAL WITH THE CITY AND THE PARK BOARD.

THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT PROCESS DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS, WHICH I WAS A PART OF FROM THE BEGINNING, WAS JUST TO HAVE A PLAN SO WE CAN REINVEST BACK INTO THE ASSETS OF THE PARKS FOR WHICH WE MANAGE FOR THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

BUT THE INNER LOCAL PROVIDES THE AVENUE NOW TO REINVEST THESE BACK INTO THE PARKS.

AND WHAT THE PARK BOARD NOW NEEDS IS TO HAVE COUNCIL JUST TAKE AND GIVE DIRECTION ON THE PROJECTS, BUT PROJECTS ON THESE ASSETS.

THE PARK BOARD WILL RETURN OR WE'LL NEED TO RETURN IN JULY OR AUGUST TO GET THE FORMAL APPROVAL ON THE PROPOSED CIP TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THE FUTURE.

21-22 AND FUTURE YEARS.

SO JUST KEEP IN MIND YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THE TOURISM PHASE, AS I'VE BEEN SAYING, AS WE GET INTO THESE PROJECTS AND PLANS AND REINVESTING IN THESE ASSETS.

AND THEN I'LL JUST TURN THIS OVER TO KELLY AND SHE WILL GET INTO MORE OF THE PROJECTS FOR EACH OF THE PARKS.

SO, KELLY.

THANKS FOR SETTING THAT UP, SPENCER.

AS SPENCER INDICATED, THIS IS A FRAMEWORK TO BE ABLE TO GUIDE DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE PARK BOARD, WHO MANAGES THESE ASSETS, AND THE CITY OF GALVESTON WHO OWNS THESE ASSETS.

WE HAVE TWO MAIN GOALS.

AND WHEN WE'RE STRUCTURING THESE BUDGETS, ONE IS TO CREATE A VALUABLE EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE WHO VISIT THE PARK, AND THE OTHER IS TO CREATE SOME REVENUES OFF OF THESE REVENUE GENERATING PARKS, NOT ONLY TO REINVEST INTO THE ASSET ITSELF, BUT HOPEFULLY THEN TO SUPPORT THE LARGER CITY OF GALVESTON RECREATIONAL PLAN.

YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET THAT YOU HAVE ONE SHEET FOR EVERY ASSET THAT WE MANAGE.

AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDED ONE FOR THE BEACH.

THE BEACHES ARE THE STATE OF TEXAS BEACHES, HOWEVER, WE ARE WORKING A LOT WITH IDC MONEY AND BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MUCH COMING UP, WE WANTED TO SHARE THOSE.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE STRUCTURE OR PROGRAM OUT THESE EXPENDITURES OVER SEVERAL YEARS.

WE WANT TO SHARE THIS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE FIVE YEARS OUT WHERE WE'RE BEGINNING TO INVEST THE MONEY THAT THESE PARKS ARE GENERATING.

AND IF YOU'VE GOT FEEDBACK ON SOME SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN THERE, THEN THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME.

OR BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE DOCUMENT, THE DOCUMENT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TODAY HAS ONLY INVESTMENTS THAT ARE OVER TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ALMOST ALL OF THE MONEY THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN THE PARKS COMES EITHER FROM FEMA, REIMBURSEMENT, IT MIGHT BE COMING FROM INSURANCE.

FOR A WHILE WE WERE MANAGING TEXAS CITY [INAUDIBLE] OIL SPILL MONEY THAT WE HAD OBTAINED DURING THE TEXAS CITY [INAUDIBLE] OIL SPILL.

WE MANAGE GRANTS AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE BEACH USER FEES OR ENTRANCE FEES THAT ARE GENERATED IN THE PARKS THEMSELVES.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, NONE OF THESE ASSETS RECEIVE PROPERTY TAXES AND ARE SUPPORTED ONE HUNDRED PERCENT BY VISITOR FEES AND GRANTS.

JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PAGE.

JANELLE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND THROWING THAT FIRST ONE UP? IT'S THE NORRIS BEACH JUST SO I CAN GIVE A FORMAT.

SO WHEN FOLKS LOOK AT IT, THEY'RE IN A POSITION TO GIVE US FEEDBACK.

OUR STAFF IS TAKING THIS OVER TO THE CITY STAFF.

WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ON A TECHNICAL LEVEL, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT, SEE IF THERE'S ANY BIG PROJECTS THAT WE CAN BID OUT TOGETHER.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE [INAUDIBLE] ONE SECOND.

THERE WE GO.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THE TOP OF THE PROJECT, THE TOP OF THE SHEET IS THE PROJECT NAME.

YOU'LL SEE RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON DELLANERA.

WE SHOULD START CONSTRUCTION ON DELLANERA IN THE FALL.

WE'RE DOING SOME BEACH NOURISHMENT EIGHT MILE ROAD DESIGN.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THEIR CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER, ROBB, ABOUT THAT PROJECT.

WE'VE GOT A BREAKWATER WE'RE WORKING ON AT THE END OF THE SEAWALL THAT WE'RE INVESTING THIS YEAR.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE THREE BIG BABE'S BEACH NOURISHMENT PROJECT.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SUMMER COMING ACROSS.

THE ARMY CORPS JUST BID THAT OUT.

I WAS PURSING DOCUSIGN, I'LL TELL YOU, BECAUSE TWO WEEKS AGO I GOT A FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT TO SIGN FOR THE GLO FOR THOSE BAY BEACH AWARDS.

AND IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER, I CAN'T SAY THAT I'VE EVER SIGNED A FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT.

I WANTED TO PULL OUT MY MONT BLANC, BUT NOW SINCE IT'S ALL ELECTRIC, I JUST HAD TO GATHER PEOPLE AROUND MY COMPUTER AND SAY, LOOK, 50 MILLION DOLLARS FOR GALVESTON BEACHES.

AND THAT 50 MILLION DOLLARS WAS LEVERAGED BY THREE MILLION DOLLARS OF IDC FUNDING.

SO THE OTHER FORTY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS AND SPENCER POINTED OUT, IS OPM, OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

AND THAT'S A TERM WE LIKE TO USE HERE.

WHEN YOU GO DOWN, YOU'LL SEE THE FUNDING SOURCES ON THERE.

AND THEN WE MAKE A MIX OF WHAT MONEY IS COMING IN AND WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR SO

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THAT YOU GET A FEEL FOR THAT.

I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

AND OF COURSE, THE PRESENT YEAR AND THEN FIVE YEARS OUT IN THIS PARTICULAR SHEET, YOU'LL SEE THAT ALL OF THESE INVESTMENTS TOTALED NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE MILLION DOLLARS, ALMOST ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'LL INVEST IN GALVESTON BEACHES OR THE COASTLINE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

JANELLE, IF YOU TAKE THAT DOWN FOR ME.

SO THEN YOU'LL SEE BEHIND THAT THERE IS A SHEET, BURDELL IN OUR RV PARK, THERE'S A SHEET FOR EAST BEACH, THERE'S A SHEET FOR STEWART BEACH, AND ONE PERSON SEAWALL PARK AND THE EAST END LAGOON.

YOU WILL NOT FIND A CAPITAL INVESTMENT SHEET FOR THE SEAWALL URBAN PARK BECAUSE THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE BEING MADE OVER THERE ON THE CITY SIDE.

HEY, THEY LOOK GREAT.

LOVE THOSE PEDESTRIAN ISLANDS.

MOVING ACROSS THE STREET THERE.

I WANTED BEFORE I GIVE YOU JUST A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS IN THE PARKS, AS I MENTIONED ALREADY WAS [INAUDIBLE] BEACH.

OUR BIGGEST EFFORT THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE IN THE DRAINAGE.

BEFORE WE CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE TO THE SITE.

WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT THIS DRAINAGE BEING THE LOW LYING DEVELOPMENT THERE.

WE'LL BE PUTTING ONE POINT FOUR MILLION INTO THAT ONE POINT THREE, ACTUALLY.

AND THEN THE OTHER BIG INVESTMENT WE'VE GOT AT STEWART BEACH IS A CONCEPT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON CALLED MOBILE AMENITIES.

AND THE IDEA IS, IS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEPLOY BATHROOMS AND CONCESSIONS AND A LITTLE BIT OF SHADE DOWN BY THE USERS AND NOT JUST AT STEWART BEACH, BUT AT EAST BEACH.

AND MAYBE THESE ARE EVEN UNITS THAT WE CAN EVENTUALLY DEPLOY DOWN THERE ON THE WEST END.

THAT WHEN WE HAD A HURRICANE OR A CONTINGENCY TO THAT WITH OUR OWN EQUIPMENT, WE CAN GO IN THERE ARE CONTAINERS.

YOU PICK THEM UP, YOU LAY THEM ON THE TRUCK BED AND YOU SHIP THEM BACK OUT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WHEN THE WEATHER'S GOOD AND WE'VE GOT VISITORS DOWN THERE, WE CAN PUT A SMALL CONCESSION IN THERE AND WE'LL HAVE A BANK OF BATHROOMS AND THEN SOME SHADE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.

SO WE'LL BE INVESTING IN THOSE FIRST UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CUSTOM DESIGN UNITS.

THE OTHER DAY WE'LL WILL ASK QUESTIONS.] I'LL CONTINUE IN DRAINAGE AT STEWART BEACH AS WELL, WE'LL BE TRENCHING THE ROADS AND RETRENCHING THE DRAINAGE THAT HAD BEEN THERE PREVIOUSLY AND PUTTING THE ROAD BACK DOWN INTERNALLY AND DOING SOME ROAD WORK ON THAT ROAD.

MOVING ON TO EAST BEACH.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INVESTMENTS IN EAST BEACH THIS YEAR.

IT'S A LOT OF JUST REGULAR MAINTENANCE.

MOST OF OUR EFFORT ON THAT SIDE OF THE ISLAND IS GOING TO GO INTO THE EAST END LAGOON.

AND AS STEPHEN PRESENTED, WE HAVE NOT ONLY THE PAVILION TO DEVELOP, BUT WE'VE GOT TRAILS, LANDSCAPING, BATHROOMS AND PARKING OUT THERE.

SO YOU'LL SEE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK OUT THERE.

OUT AT SEAWALL PARK, WE HAVE EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT IS GOING IN DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME REPAIRS ON THE SHIPS IN THE SUBS WITH THE KABALA.

SO THERE'S SOME WORK FOR MOORING OUT THERE.

NOW THAT WE'VE TAKEN DOWN THE PAVILION, WE'LL BE PUTTING RIPRAP ALL AROUND THAT AREA WHERE THE PAVILION HAD BEEN AND IMPROVING THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT AN EFFORT WITH THE FEMA TO EXPAND, TO SEEK APPROVAL TO EXPAND THE FISHING PIER OUT THERE.

THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR MOST PRODUCTIVE ITEMS. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY USE SOME FEMA MONEY TO LEVERAGE MORE OF THE FISHING OUT THERE.

MR. CHAIR, I SEE THAT TRUSTEE JASON HARDCASTLE HAS BEEN ABLE TO JOIN US AND JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT.

WELCOME JASON.[INAUDIBLE] AND THEN THE FINAL ITEM IS DELLANERA, JUST LIKE YOU IN THE CITY, OUT IN THE WEST END, WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH DRAINAGE.

SO DELLANERA AS WELL.

WE NEED TO DO SOME ROADWORK.

WE'VE GOT ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS THERE FOR NEXT YEAR.

RAISE THE ROAD AGAIN AND TRENCHED THAT IN SOME AREAS.

ALL TOLD, IF THIS PROPOSAL, AS WE'VE PUT FORWARD, IS APPROVED BY YOU AND FUNDED, WE'LL BE SPENDING ABOUT THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN CITY OF GALVESTON PARKS IN THE NEXT YEAR.

I'LL LEAVE THIS DOCUMENT WITH YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE? YOU FEEL FREE TO FUNNEL THEM, EITHER THROUGH YOUR STAFF WHO WILL BE MEETING WITH OUR STAFF AND HAPPY TO TAKE THIS UP OR REACH OUT TO ME OR KIMBERLY DANESE DIRECTLY AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

YOU WILL SEE IT AGAIN IN JUNE OR JULY WHEN WE ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND, THEN SAY, YES, WE WANT THESE INVESTMENTS IN THESE ASSETS.

I'M LOOKING AT THIS CHART OF THE HISTORIC STRETCH BETWEEN THE 12TH STREET AND 61ST RE NOURISHMENT, ARE WE GETTING FEMA MONEY FOR THAT? THAT IS A TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE REPAIR PROJECT.

YES, SIR.

THE CITY OF GALVESTON HAS NO FUNDING IN THAT PROJECT, NOR DOES THE PARK BOARD.

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SO WE ARE GETTING FUNDING FROM FEMA? THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE IS GETTING FUNDING FROM FEMA.

WE ARE NOT MANAGING THAT PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT THE RECIPIENT OF THE PROJECT WORKSHEET.

SO IS IT A GLO? YES, SIR.

OUR ROLE IN THESE BEACH NOURISHMENT PROJECTS IN THIS CASE IS THAT WE HOLD THE PERMIT.

SO WE'RE INVOLVED BECAUSE WE HOLD THE PERMIT, BUT ALL OF THE FINANCING IS COMING THROUGH THE GLO AND FEMA.

DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE DATE WHERE THAT'S GOING TO START? I DO HAVE AN ESTIMATED DATE, BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT IT'S PROBABLY TOWARDS THE FALL/ WINTER TO 21-22.

WE GOT TO GET THROUGH THE BABE'S AND DELLANERA FIRST.

OK, AND THEN FOR THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM THERE AT STEWART BEACH, WE GET ANY FUNDING FROM THAT FROM FEMA? THAT PROJECT IS AT ONE POINT FOUR, ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE GRANTED FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM IDC AND ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE.

I WILL SHARE WITH YOU, BILL, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT TO THE CONSTITUENT THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING THAT THE SEAWALL NOURISHMENT BEACH WILL BE A TRUCK HAUL PROJECT.

THERE WILL BE NO TUBES LAID ON THE GROUND.

SO WE'LL JUST GO OUT THERE AND WE'LL HAUL SAND FROM ONE SIDE OF THE ISLAND AND DUMP IT ON THE OTHER.

THANK YOU.

MY PLEASURE.

RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ON THE CIP? GREAT, WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN IN JUNE OR JULY WHEN WE BRING IT BACK THROUGH COUNCIL MEMBER COLLINS FOR AN UP OR DOWN.

OK, WELL, BEFORE WE MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT, I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME JUST TO THANK COUNCIL FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU IN JUNE OR JULY.

IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO BRING BACK, PLEASE FUNNEL THAT THROUGH MR. COLLINS, OR SEND THAT DIRECTLY TO KELLY OR MYSELF.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT ON A AGENDA ITEM.

YOU KNOW, BEFORE I JUST WRAP UP AND ADJOURN, I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO OUR REAPPOINTMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP IN OUR FUTURE MONTHS.

AND I HOPE I AM ABLE TO COME BACK AND PRESENT TO YOU OUR UPDATES AND PLANS FOR THE FUTURE.

SO, AS YOU CAN TELL, BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH THIS, WITH THE PARK BOARD AND THE TRUSTEES AND HAVE SOME BIG PLANS AS WE TALK TOURISM PAYS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEES, FOR GETTING UP EARLY.

AND YOUR PARTICIPATION IS ALWAYS VERY VALUABLE.

SO YEAH.

SPENCER, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU.

AND THE PARK BOARD AND PARK BOARD STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

GREAT PRESENTATIONS OF YOUR TOPIC CHOICE WAS RIGHT ON ON ALL OF THESE ITEMS. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THESE ITEMS COME BACK ON AGENDA, ON OUR AGENDA IN THE FUTURE VIA YOUR LIAISON, COUNCILMAN COLLINS.

AND ONE LAST COMMENT THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION HERE, IT SHOWS HOW IMPORTANT IDC IS TO THE PARK BOARD AND TO THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.

THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.

IT'S BEEN WORKING WELL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A LOT MORE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND THE PARK BOARD.

THANK YOU, SPENCER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, MAYOR BROWN, WE DO APPRECIATE THAT, SO.

CAN I GIVE IT A COMMERCIAL REAL QUICK? WE WILL BE HOSTING ON MAY 5TH, OUR SEVENTH ANNUAL TOURISM SUMMIT.

AT THREE THIRTY IN THE AFTERNOON, WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN MAYOR BROWN ON THE STAGE WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT OF ROYAL CARIBBEAN, WHO WILL BE SHARING ON THE STAGE WITH US THE PLANS FOR THE THIRD TERMINAL.

PERHAPS YOU'VE SEEN THEM ALREADY.

WE HAVEN'T, SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD INVITE YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME JOIN US THAT DAY, EITHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON FREE, AND WE'LL PROVIDE LUNCH AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, BEFORE I CLOSE OUT THE MEETING, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY LAST COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR ME OR ANY OTHER TRUSTEE? OR STAFF? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN.

AND WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED THAT 9:14 A.M.

FROM THE PARK BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

GREAT MEETING WITH PARK BOARD.

VERY GOOD.

MOVING ON NOW WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AGENDA.

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JANELLE, ITEM 3B, PLEASE MA'AM.

[3B. Receive Presentation For Shriners Hospital Expansion Project And Provide Staff With Direction On Moving Forward (M. Hay - 10 Minutes)]

ITEM 3B, RECEIVE PRESENTATION FROM SHRINER'S HOSPITAL EXPANSION PROJECT AND PROVIDE STAFF WITH DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD.

FROM OUR NEW EXECUTIVE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, MICHELLE HANEY.

MICHELLE? HI, GOOD MORNING.

CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.

OK, PERFECT.

YES, WE ARE COMING TO YOU TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS HAPPENING HERE IN GALVESTON.

THE EXPANSION OF THE SHRINERS HOSPITAL, AS YOU MAY KNOW, BEING IN, I GUESS, JANUARY OF 2020.

THE DECISION WAS MADE TO MERGE THE GALVESTON AND HOUSTON LOCATIONS TOGETHER.

SO THE HOUSTON OPERATIONS WERE GOING TO MOVE TO GALVESTON, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL PATIENT SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY AND ACTUALLY WORLDWIDE, BECAUSE SHRINER'S HAS BEEN TREATING PATIENTS INTERNATIONALLY SINCE AROUND GALVESTON SINCE '63.

I THINK HOUSTON WAS MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.

SO ANYWAY, THEY HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH EXTENSIVE RENOVATIONS OF THE EXISTING HOSPITAL.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THEIR FOOTPRINT.

THEY HAVE PURCHASED SOME PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THEM AND ACROSS THE STREET, AS YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'LL [INAUDIBLE] WAS IN THE PARKING LOT THERE.

THEY PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY TO EXPAND.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD SOME RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AND A PARKING GARAGE.

SO HAD A PRE DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THE CITY IN FEBRUARY.

AND THE INITIAL DESIGN CONCEPT WAS TO BUILD ACTUALLY ON TOP OF POST OFFICE STREET.

AND WE ASKED THEM TO COME BACK WITH SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT TRAFFIC TO CONTINUE TO FLOW.

SO THEY ARE COMING TO US TODAY, WITH SOME CREATIVE METHODS TO ALLOW THEIR EXPANSION AND STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE GOOD PATIENT CARE, GET THEIR PATIENTS AS CLOSE TO THE HOSPITAL AS POSSIBLE, BUT SO FAR AS TO HAVE A FLOW OF TRAFFIC ON POST OFFICE.

SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU FROM PERKASIE ARCHITECTURE.

AND I BELIEVE MR. DE LA CRUZ IS HERE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION, TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DESIGN CONCEPTS.

AND BASICALLY TODAY, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE OK WITH THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE IN GALVESTON WHERE A STRUCTURE OF THIS SIZE IS GOING TO EXPAND OVER A STREET.

WE'VE HAD SKY BRIDGES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT CONNECTING MOST RECENTLY THE ANICO PROJECT WHERE THEY BUILT THEIR PARKING GARAGE AND ARE SPANNING THEIR SKYBRIDGE OVER.

WE HAVE USED A LICENSE TO USE AGREEMENT WITH THEM ON THAT PROJECT, BUT THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL WERE OK WITH IT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH YOU BRINGING BACK THOSE OPTIONS AND AGREEMENTS.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, IF MR. DE LA CRUZ, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO GET YOUR PRESENTATION OUT IN ACTUALLY, I'M FILLING IN FOR CATHERINE CALLAWAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, JERRY'S ON THE PHONE AS WELL.

SO I'LL LET YOU GUYS TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

SURE.

SO I AM CATHERINE CALLAWAY.

I'M WITH KIRKSEY ARCHITECTURE AND WE ARE AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM AND ALSO THE PROUD WINNERS OF THE GOLDEN BUCKET AWARD, MULTI YEARS FOR THE AAA SANDCASTLE COMPETITION.

WE HAD TO SKIP IT LAST YEAR, BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING BACK ON THE BEACH IN AUGUST FOR THAT.

BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE SHRINER'S PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MICHELLE, FOR THAT INTRO.

AND WE'VE GOT A FEW FOLKS FROM THE SHRINER'S TEAM ON THE CALL.

AND SO THEY'LL FILL IN, TOO, AS QUESTIONS, COME UP.

BUT FIRST, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS, AS MICHELLE SAID, WE HAVE THE AERIAL HERE SHOWING THE EXISTING SHRINER'S HOSPITAL.

AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAND TO THE SOUTH TO BETWEEN EIGHTH AND NINTH STREET, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ALONG THESE KIND OF BLUE SHADED AREAS.

THE LIGHTER AREAS ARE BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE COMING DOWN TO MAKE WAY FOR THE NEW PROJECT.

AND SO LOOKING AT ROOF PLAN HERE, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE EXISTING SHRINER'S HOSPITAL TO THE NORTH.

HERE'S THE GARAGE THAT SHE MENTIONED THAT WOULD BE SPANNING ACROSS POST OFFICE.

ABOUT THREE HUNDRED CARS THERE AND THEN TWO STORY HOUSING BUILDING WHERE

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THERE'S ABOUT 40 UNITS THAT WOULD HOUSE THE FAMILIES WHO ARE THERE ON TEMPORARY BASIS WHILE THE CHILDREN ARE GETTING TREATED IN THE HOSPITAL.

AND SO JUST CREATING THIS EXPANDING THE SHRINERS CAMPUS AND CREATING MORE OF A FULL CAMPUS EXPERIENCE FOR THE FAMILIES WHO ARE COMING THERE FOR TREATMENT.

AND WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLANS INCLUDED, AS MICHELLE REFERENCED, WHERE WE'RE EARLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE.

AND SO JUST STARTING TO SORT THROUGH WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON THE GROUND.

SO THIS STARTS TO SHOW HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT MAKING SURE THERE'S TREES ALONG THE STREET.

WHAT IS THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE LIKE? AND OF COURSE, FOLLOWING THE CITY ORDINANCES ON PLANTINGS AND LANDSCAPE.

THIS IS THE HOUSING AREA KIND OF FLOOR PLAN WHERE THEY'LL HAVE AN INTERNAL COURTYARD FOR THE FAMILIES AND THEN MAKING THAT CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING HOSPITAL AND A KIND OF MEANINGFUL WAY THAT JUST KIND OF ZOOMS IN AT THAT GROUND LEVEL THERE.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME ALSO ALWAYS LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THE SITE, WHERE HOW ARE WE MANAGING STORM WATER AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT FALLS ON THE SITE IS MANAGED ON SITE AND USING AN APPROACH SUCH AS THESE BIO SWALES WHERE IT ALLOWS THE STORM WATER TO INFILTRATE SLOW DOWN BEFORE IT IS DISCHARGED ONTO THE STREET.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE INITIAL CONCEPTS THERE.

SO HERE'S SOME RENDERINGS.

THESE ARE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T FULLY INTEGRATED OUR LANDSCAPE DESIGN YET.

BUT THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE SCALE AND KIND OF WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE WITH THE EXISTING HOSPITAL THERE IN THE BACKGROUND.

AND THEN HERE'S THE TWO STORY HOUSING PORTION AND THEN THE GARAGE STANDING ACROSS THE STREET.

WE'RE STILL CONSIDERING WHETHER THE GARAGE IS THREE OR FOUR STORIES.

THIS SHOWS THE FOUR STORY OPTION AND THEN THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY HERE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

HERE'S A VIEW LOOKING AT WHAT THE FACADE MAY LOOK LIKE ON THE GARAGE ALONG NINTH STREET.

AGAIN, THERE WOULD BE TREES AND LANDSCAPE HERE, BUT STARTING TO CONSIDER WHAT KIND OF SCREENING ELEMENT MAY BE ON THE FACADE AND WHAT WE WOULD SEE.

AND THEN THERE'S THE ENTRANCE THROUGH POST OFFICE.

ALSO, THIS IS LOOKING DOWN ON POST OFFICE, BACK TOWARD THE GARAGE WITH THE HOUSING ON THE RIGHT.

WHAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED DISCUSSING WITH MICHELLE AND THE STAFF IS HAVING POST OFFICE BE ONE WAY FOR THIS PORTION, FOR THIS BLOCK.

IT'S ALREADY ONE WAY GOING EAST ALONG AFTER 8TH STREET.

BUT THIS WOULD JUST PULL THAT ONE WAY BACK TO START AT NINTH STREET INSTEAD TO ALLOW FOR BETTER TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT.

AND HERE'S A LOOK AT WHAT THE HOUSING IS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE, WHERE THERE'S BRICK MASONRY THAT TIES INTO THE HOSPITAL KIND OF ESTHETICS, AND THEN ALSO A COMBINATION WITH SORT OF HARDY BOARD SIDING MATERIALS THAT HAVE MORE OF THAT RESIDENTIAL FEEL.

AND THEN THE LOOK FROM ALONG EIGHTH STREET BACK AT THE HOUSING AND THAT INTERNAL COURTYARD THAT THEY'LL HAVE THERE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE HOUSING.

THIS IS KIND OF INTERNAL HUB OF THE CAMPUS WHERE THE HOSPITAL IS HERE ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE GARAGE ON THE RIGHT.

AND SO I'M JUST STARTING TO DEVELOP KIND OF HOW THIS AREA IS MAYBE ACTIVATED AND BE EXPERIENCED BY THE VISITORS.

I HAVE THE FLOOR PLANS HERE, BUT HAPPY TO TO BACK UP AT ANY RENDERINGS OR OTHER VIEWS TO DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU, CATHERINE.

THE COUNCIL JUST LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ON YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHETHER YOU'RE AVAILABLE WITH THIS CONCEPT OF GOING ACROSS AND STAYING ACROSS POST OFFICE.

AND SO.

JANELLE, COULD YOU SO I COULD SEE COUNCIL, COULD YOU? THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU JANELLE.

WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE SHRINERS HOSPITAL GROUP AND THE ARCHITECTS.

THEY CAME WITH THE PLAN EARLIER [INAUDIBLE] THAT WAS REQUESTING THE ABANDONMENT OF POST OFFICE IN THAT AREA.

CITY STAFF WORK WITH THEM AND THEY WERE VERY COOPERATIVE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WORKING

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ON A PLAN THAT WAS MORE CONDUCIVE TO MAINTAINING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ATMOSPHERE IN THAT AREA.

SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE DAVID AND THEN MARIE AND JOHN I THINK YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

YES SIR.

YEAH.

CATHERINE, THANK YOU FOR THAT TODAY.

AND MICHELE, THANKS FOR WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH THEM.

I WAS WITH THE MAYOR WHEN WE MET WITH SHRINERS EARLY ON AND HELPED TO EXPRESS THE CITY CONCERNS AND I THINK SHRINERS AND KIRKSEY HAVE DONE GREAT JOB OF COMING BACK WITH A NEW PLAN AND SHOWING US THE WAY THAT WE COULD DO THIS.

AND I THINK WE'RE ON BOARD WITH HELPING EXPAND THIS VERY IMPORTANT FACILITY.

THANKS.

MARIE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK IT'S A GREAT SOLUTION VERSUS GIVING UP POST OFFICE.

I THINK IT'S EXCITING TO SEE OUR ALREADY INCREDIBLE HEALTH CARE FACILITIES EXPAND MORE INTO A MED CENTER.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

JOHN PAUL.

ABSOLUTELY SAME HERE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION TODAY, AND IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION.

AND I WANT TO ASK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD HANDLE ON CITY SIDE THE LTU OR IS THAT WHAT TYPE OF AGREEMENT WE WOULD HAVE IN PLACE FOR A STRUCTURE OF THIS NATURE? I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST WITH SKY BRIDGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IS IT THE SAME PROCESS ON OUR SIDE THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST? SO IN SPEAKING WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LEANING TOWARDS.

THEY PUT TOGETHER THE MOST RECENT ONE WITH AMERICAN NATIONAL FOR THE LICENSE TO USE FOR THEIR SKYBRIDGE.

AND THERE IS SOME RIGHT OF WAY I DON'T WANT TO SAY ENCROACHMENT.

BUT USAGE OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING AND SUCH COMING OUT BEYOND THE PARKING GARAGE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY UTILIZED WITH THE AMERICAN NATIONAL [INAUDIBLE].

AND THEN ACTUAL STREET INFRASTRUCTURE IS THIS WILL THIS STRETCH OF POST OFFICE, BE PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY REBUILT, SIDEWALK WISE AND IN THE STREET ITSELF? LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE THE PROJECT IS PRETTY MUCH THAT ENTIRE BLOCK.

CATHERINE, ARE YOU? RIGHT.

IT WILL NEED SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WORKED OUT YET AS FAR AS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING WHERE.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT.

OK, SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AGAIN, THE PROJECT DOES SPAN THAT ENTIRE BLOCK, SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL OR COMMENTS? VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, MICHELE.

THANK YOU, CATHERINE FROM KIRKSEY.

AND I WANT TO SAY WHAT A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY THE SHRINERS HOSPITAL IS BRINGING TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THESE CHILDREN, NOT ONLY THE BURNS TYPE CARE, BUT ALSO ORTHOPEDIC AND CLEFT PALATE CARE.

WHAT A WONDERFUL SITUATION.

WE'RE VERY, ANXIOUS TO HAVE THEM HERE AND EXPAND ON OUR CAMPUS AND THEY'RE BRINGING ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS WILL BE COMING ONTO THE ISLAND FOR THIS FACILITY.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY HAVE IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MICHELE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

ABSOLUTELY.

VERY GOOD.

THIS IS JERRY GANTT AM I MUTED OR CAN I SPEAK? WE CAN HEAR YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD SIR.

VERY GOOD.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU AND TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AGAIN.

I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR ALL OF THE SHRINERS HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN.

AND WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RELOCATE OUR ORTHOPEDIC PROGRAM FROM HOUSTON TO GALVESTON.

AND CERTAINLY FROM THAT WE'RE PRETTY MUCH REMODELING THE WHOLE INTERIOR OF THE HOSPITAL TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AND TO UPDATE IT.

WE DECIDED TO PRESENT AN OPTION TO UPGRADE THE FAMILY HOUSING PARENT HOUSING THAT

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WE'VE HAD ON SITE THAT WERE MODULAR BUILDINGS THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE REALLY ADDED ANYTHING ESTHETICALLY TO YOUR LANDSCAPE.

AND WE'RE EXCITED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE ACTUALLY DOES IT.

IF YOU'LL NOTICE, WE KIRKSEY HAS DRESSED UP THE PARKING GARAGE WHERE IT'S NOT JUST A NORMAL PARKING GARAGE, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS VERY PLEASING TO LOOK AT.

SO ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE SHRINERS AND THE CHILDREN, WE'RE SO PRIVILEGED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR BEING A WILLING PARTNER AND ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR A HUNDRED YEARS AND TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO GET CARE ANYWHERE ELSE.

BUT THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

AND THANK YOU, MICHELE AGAIN.

MOVING TO ITEM 3 C, PLEASE JANELLE.

[3C. Clarification Of Consent And Regular City Council Agenda Items - This Is An Opportunity For City Council To Ask Questions Of Staff On Consent And Regular Agenda Items (20 Minutes)]

ITEM 3 C, CLARIFICATION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS ON STAFF, ON CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.

BEFORE WE CALL ON THESE COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME THOUGHTS ON OUR AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON.

THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES ON THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, ITEM SEVEN C AND SEVEN D WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.

WE WILL NOT BE ADDRESSING THOSE TWO PARTICULAR ITEMS. ITEM 7 A AND 7 B IS ON OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA, AS YOU KNOW, COMING UP HERE A LITTLE LATER ON THIS MORNING.

SO IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, IF YOU COULD HOLD THOSE FOR 7 A AND SEVEN B TILL WE GET TO THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. ALSO THIS AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO BE DECLARING A CONFLICT ON ITEM EIGHT U, WHICH IS THE MARDI GRAS CONTRACT.

SO IF THERE IS DISCUSSION DURING THIS CLARIFICATION TIME ON 8 U THAT INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE, I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO COUNCILMAN COLLINS MAYOR PRO TEM TO LEAD THAT DISCUSSION.

VERY GOOD.

NOW THAT WE HAVE OPENED THAT UP FOR CLARIFICATION, MARIE, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.

YES, MA'AM.

AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE ITEM.

IT'S ON OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA, AS 3 I.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL TO BE PRESENT AND HOPEFULLY REVEREND JOHNSON WILL BE BACK BY THEN.

SOUNDS GOOD.

AS YOU KNOW, ON THREE I, COUNCIL WILL BE VOTING ON THAT COMING UP AT OUR MAY MEETING.

THERE ARE TWO I WOULD RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, THERE ARE TWO ORDINANCES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR THIS PARTICULAR NOMINATION APPOINTMENT PROCESS.

IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COUNCIL, PLEASE REVIEW BOTH OF THOSE.

LOOK THROUGH THEM THEY'RE IN YOUR PACKET THERE.

AND SO WHEN WE GET TO THEM ON OUR MAY MEETING FOR CITY COUNCIL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE.

VERY GOOD.

YES MA'AM.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ACTUALLY ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, BUT I KNOW I HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

AND I WONDER AT SOME POINT I'M NOT NOT SURE WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE, WHERE WE CAN [INAUDIBLE] TO THE PUBLIC AND UPDATE ON THE CITY'S PLANS THIS WEEKEND ON ADDRESSING THE POTENTIAL CAR SHOW ISSUES.

I HAVE THAT DOWN.

THANK YOU MARIE.

I HAVE THAT DOWN FOR OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS SESSION, AS WE COME UP TO THAT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S START OFF COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU AWAY THE SCREEN SET UP FROM ME.

COUNCILMAN QUIROGA, ANY QUESTIONS CLARIFICATION ON THE AGENDA, SIR? YEAH, I GOT TWO.

ONE IS THE WRECKER I THINK THE ORDINANCE THAT WANTS TO COME UP AND THE CONTRACT FOR THE MARDI GRAS.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S TAKE THE WRECKER FIRST, THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, BILL THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OFF THE AGENDA AT THIS POINT.

BUT BRIAN, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?

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DID YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS BILL ON THAT? I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE'RE REDOING THE THE WHOLE ORDINANCE AGAIN.

I THOUGHT IT WAS WORKING TO BEGIN WITH.

WELL, YES AND NO.

SOME OF THE WRECKER COMPANIES WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH JUNK AND ABANDONED VEHICLES.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO CORRECT IT.

WE MET WITH THEM.

THEY ALL AGREED.

BUT APPARENTLY SOMEBODY CHANGED YOUR MIND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE WITH IT.

OK, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS.

I WAS TRYING TO WRITE DOWN THE ITEMS BUT THIS ITEM IS GOING TO BE TAKEN OFF THE AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEETING CORRECT? YES, SIR.

OK, VERY GOOD.

AND YOU HAVE MARDI GRAS DAVID, I'M GOING TO TURN THAT DISCUSSION OVER TO YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT REMIND ME WHICH IT'S ON REGULAR AGENDA.

THAT IS 8 U 8 U THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M SORRY.

COUNCILMAN QUIROGA YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN WE HAVE DOCUMENTS PUT OUT AND THERE'S NO NAME, NO SIGNATURE.

I LIKE TO KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THE AUTHOR OF THE DOCUMENT WHO APPROVED IT, AND THEN AGAIN, THE FINAL APPROVAL [INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHO WROTE THE CONTRACT? MR. [INAUDIBLE], ARE YOU IN THE MEETING WITH US THIS MORNING, OR DONNA MAY BE.

HERE I AM.

OH, THERE YOU ARE SIR.

ALRIGHT I JUST CAN'T SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN.

SORRY, CAN YOU ANSWER COUNCILMAN QUIROGA'S QUESTION ON HOW THIS DOCUMENT WAS CREATED? YES, I CAN I BELIEVE.

THE PREVIOUS MARDI GRAS THE MAIN PERSON WHO WORKS ON THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH MARDI GRAS IS DAVID SMITH UNDER THE DIRECTION OF CITY MANAGEMENT AND WITH INPUT FROM VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS.

DAVID SMITH TOOK THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT THAT WAS IN EFFECT.

SO I THINK IT JUST ENDED AND MODIFIED IT IN ITS PRESENT USE.

IT WAS AMENDED TO REFLECT, I BELIEVE, THINGS THAT WERE IN THE RFP MANAGEMENT.

BRIAN, DAN HAD INPUT.

I HAD SOME INPUT BEVERLY WEST HAD SOME INPUT.

WE WOULD HAVE LITTLE DISCUSSIONS AND DAVID WOULD GO BACK AND INCORPORATE THOSE ITEMS. SO I WANT TO GIVE A GREAT DEAL OF CREDIT TO DAVID SMITH WITH HIS PATIENCE IN THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.

BUT IT REALLY IS A TEAM EFFORT, BUT IT REALLY IS PRIMARILY THE HEAVY LIFTING IS DONE BY DAVID.

AND THEN I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

I LOOKED AT THE 2011 2017.

AND OF COURSE, THIS ONE HERE IS WHY ISN'T THERE AN ESCALATION BASED ON THE CPI OR A FLAT RATE OF X AMOUNT PERCENTAGE TO INCREASE AND TO LOWER THE TAX BURDEN ON THE PUBLIC? WELL, THERE'S NO PROPERTY TAX OR SALES TAX INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL.

SO THERE'S THE ONLY TAX INVOLVED IS HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, WHICH ARE VISITORS.

THE TAX IS THE TAX IS A TAX.

CORRECT.

YOU'RE SORT OF RIGHT, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH STICKY WICKETS ATTACHED WITH HIGH TAX.

IT'S MIND BOGGLING AT TIMES.

YEAH, IT'S PRETTY RESTRICTIVE.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CHOSEN TO ADDRESS THE ESCALATION THROUGH THE PER HEAD COST VERSUS IN THE ACTUAL ANNUAL FEE.

IT'S A MATTER OF SEMANTICS.

WE COULD HAVE SHIFTED IT OVER TO THE ANNUAL FEE VERSUS THE HEAD TALK.

BUT BEING THIS IS A CITY SPONSORED EVENT, IT KIND OF HELPS THE CITY SHARE IN THE RISK.

BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY TO HAVE NO RISK.

BUT THAT'S NOT A SUBJECT.

THE ONLY WAY THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IF WE DON'T DO MARDI GRAS [LAUGHTER].

THERE'S ALWAYS A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS THAT THE AMOUNT OF REVENUES THAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THE PROMOTER, WHOEVER WELL IN THIS CASE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE IS OFFSET BY THE ADVERTISEMENT AND OTHER ENTITIES SUBTRACTED FROM THAT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE'RE CHARGING THE PROMOTER.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT NUMBERS COMPARED TO OFFSET THE COST FROM

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AGAIN, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX IS BEING USED FOR CLEANUP AND POLICE AND FIRE AND E.M.S.

WHERE IT'S A MAJORITY OF THE MONEY IS GOING TO.

IS THAT AN INCORRECT STATEMENT, DAVID? THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

SO I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THAT, BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I READ THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR IS THESE TAXES ARE THEY'RE SPECIFIED WHAT THEY NEED TO BE USED FOR.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

AND LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THESE IF YOU LOOK AT A VALUE LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE RAISED TWO DOLLARS, WE WENT FROM ONE DOLLAR TO 2 DOLLARS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT I SEEN, YOU HAD A REIMBURSEMENT WELL, A CHECK SIGNED OVER TO THE CITY FOR SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH IS ONE TICKET PER HEAD NOW, I BELIEVE AT THAT PARTICULAR ONE THAT WE HAD CLOSE TO.

IF YOU TAKE THE SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND YOU MULTIPLY THAT TIMES WHAT THE VENDOR WAS RECEIVING, I BELIEVE IN THIS ESTIMATE THAT IT WAS TWENTY DOLLARS.

THE REASON WHY THAT CAME OUT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW THAT WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE HIGH PRICE, BUT I SAID, WELL, I DON'T GO DOWN THERE SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CHARGE.

BUT IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 60, THAT'S ONE POINT TWO MILLION.

THAT'S NOT CONSIDERING ALL THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT THE PROMOTER WOULD BE ENTITLED TO.

SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS A FAIR AND EQUAL BALANCE OF THAT CONTRACT.

SO THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO LOOK AT.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND HAVE A LOT MORE INPUT.

THE OTHER THING IS WHY AREN'T WE BRINGING THIS UP TO AN OPEN DISCUSSION TO THE PUBLIC? I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO COME IN AND DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, THE PROS AND CONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWN THERE ON THE STRAND ARE AMORE OR LESS COMPLAIN THAT THEY HAVE SHUT DOWN THEIR BUSINESS FOR A NOTHING MORE THAN A BIG PARTY DOWN THERE.

SO THESE ARE THE THINGS I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL AND THESE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT.

THERE ARE SOLUTIONS.

WE JUST TAKE THE RIGHT APPROACH.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, BILL.

WILLIAM.

YEAH, PART OF BILL'S QUESTION, HE ASKED, ISN'T SOME OF THIS LIKE THE HOT TAX USAGE? ISN'T THAT WHAT'S BEING DECIDED RIGHT NOW IN APPEALS COURT LIKE TODAY OR THIS RIGHT AS WE SPEAK? DON.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY QUITE SURE THAT THE USE OF HOT IS DIRECTLY BROUGHT UP ANY APPEAL, IT HAS TO DO MORE WITH THE ACCESS TO THE STREETS, THE PURPORTED LACK OF PROCUREMENT PROCESSES AND VARIOUS CLAIMS SUCH AS ANTITRUST.

SO NOW LET ME CHECK WITH BEVERLY, BUT I DON'T THINK HOT IS DIRECTLY ATTACKED.

OK.

AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WITH THIS NEW CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, WE SAW IN THE PAPER AND I'VE READ IT, WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE PRESENTED AND CAN WE KIND OF JUST TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THIS TRANSPARENCY, WHAT WE'VE DONE.

AS FAR AS THE BIGGEST CONCERN, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS A RIGHT TO A VENDOR SPOT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT.

SO THERE ARE SOME KEY CHANGES IN THIS YEAR'S CONTRACT.

ONE WAS THE ATTENDANCE FEE WAS DOUBLED OVER THE DOLLAR A HEAD.

AND THAT'S INDICATED ON PAGE TWO AND THREE IN SECTION SIX.

ALSO, THE STRAND IS THIS IS NEW.

THE STRAND BUSINESS HAVE THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL FOR VENDOR SPACES.

AND THAT IS ILLUSTRATED ON PAGE THREE, I BELIEVE, SECTION SEVEN.

THE SPONSORSHIP FEES ARE ADJUSTED A LITTLE BIT WHERE THOSE CAN ONLY CREDIT THE EVENT FEE AND NOT THE DOLLAR A HEAD FEE.

AND THAT IS ILLUSTRATED ON PAGES FOUR AND FIVE, SECTION I BELIEVE, 10.

AND ALSO WE DID ADD SOME WORDING IN REFERENCE TO THE ORDINANCE, WHICH ADVISES THAT WHOEVER THE ORGANIZER IS HAS TO ALLOW RESIDENTS, THEIR GUESTS AND THEIR BUSINESSES ACCESS INTO THE ENTERTAINMENT AREA THROUGH A PASS SYSTEM.

AND THAT IS DEFINED IN PAGE SEVEN, SECTION TWENTY.

DAVE.

IF I CAN ADD INTO MR. SCHUSTER.

YES, MR. FLORES DOES WANT TO RAISE THE HOT TAX ISSUE.

HOWEVER, HE HAS NO STANDING TO DO THAT.

SO THAT CLAIM IS IMPROPERLY MADE.

DAVID, CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION ON THE

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FROM ONE DOLLARS TO TWO DOLLARS.

THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE THE PROMOTER WOULD CHARGE BECAUSE IT'S UP TO HIM TO CHARGE THE FEE COMING IN.

SO BASICALLY, WHAT ANY GOOD BUSINESS PERSON WILL DO IS TO PASS IT ON TO THE PUBLIC ANYWAY.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I THINK THAT'S HAVING A TWENTY DOLLAR ENTRY FEE.

IT MAY GO UP TO 22 DOLLAR ENTRY FEE I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PRIVILEGED TO THAT BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT INFORMATION OR HE'S NOT TELLING US WHAT HE'S CHARGING [INAUDIBLE].

RIGHT.

AND ALSO AFTER OUR DISCUSSION, WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN THERE AND EXAMINE AND REVIEW THE ATTENDANCE RECORDS ON THE MARDI GRAS, IN EFFECT, SINCE THAT IS BEING A QUESTION, THAT WILL BE ONE THING THAT WE WILL FOLLOW UP ON THE FOLLOWING MARDI GRAS.

WELL, THEN I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO AUDIT.

AND HOW MANY AUDITS HAVE WE DONE SINCE 2011? WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN AND REVIEW THE ATTENDANCE RECORDS.

AND WE HAVE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE PROMOTER TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS. HE ADVISES US THAT THAT IS GENERATED THROUGH A COMPUTER PROGRAM.

I THINK AT ONE TIME WE DID LOOK OVER SOME OF THOSE RECORDS IN THE FUTURE WE WILL PROBABLY REVIEW THOSE AS WELL.

THERE ARE OTHER LARGE EVENTS WHICH WE HAVE GONE IN THERE AND CHECKED THE SAME TYPE OF INFORMATION AS WELL, ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VENDORS WHO ARE HIRED ARE UTILIZING THE CITY OF GALVESTON AS THE TAX RECIPIENT.

WELL MY QUESTION AGAIN IS HOW MANY AUDITS HAVE WE DONE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS OFFICIALLY.

ON MARDI GRAS? CORRECT.

OK, I HAVE NOT PERFORMED ANY AUDITS.

THE ONE THING I'VE DONE IS FIELD SURVEYS WHERE I DO CHECK THE AREAS AS WELL AS THE PAPERWORK.

I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT PERFORMED ANY AUDITS ON MARDI GRAS.

SO YOU DO SPOT CHECKS.

EXACTLY.

OK, AND THE OTHER ISSUE I HAVE IS WHY ARE WE PURSUING IT? CAN WE HOLD OFF ON THIS THING? BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S STILL UNDER LITIGATION.

SO IT MAY GO IN FAVOR OF MR. FLORES.

IT MAY NOT.

SO WHY ARE WE RUSHING INTO THIS? WE CAN REALLY LOOK IN OVER THE CONTRACT AND HAVE COUNCIL READ IT AND HAVE ANY INPUT TO QUESTION IT, BECAUSE, LIKE, AGAIN, MY OTHER THING IS THE PURPOSE OF BEING A BALANCED AND EQUAL FOR THE PROMOTER AS WELL AS FOR THE CITIZENS OF GALVESTON.

WE'RE REALLY NOT IN A RUSH.

I MEAN, THESE THINGS TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO PUT TOGETHER.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE OTHER LARGE EVENTS NOW.

WE'VE KIND OF DRAG THIS OUT BUT COVID HAS DELAYED IT DRAMATICALLY IT WAS ONE REASON WHY WE DISCUSSED IT IN THE MARCH 25TH WORKSHOP.

SO YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TIME TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT AND RECEIVE INPUT AND ALSO REVIEW THE MEDIA AND THE COMMENTS INVOLVED AS WELL.

IT'S THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THIS OR VOTE ON IT TODAY.

THAT'S I GUESS.

DAVID.

BACK TO YOU.

IS IS THERE ANY NEED TO RUSH INTO THIS THING? THERE'S NO NEED TO RUSH.

WE NEED TO GET IT.

WE NEED TO GET ON THE [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE COUNCIL.

WHATEVER YOU ALL DESIRE, WE'LL MOVE THAT WAY.

OK, SO IT'S OK.

I GOT YOU DAVID.

THAT'S ALL I HAD, MR. COLLINS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU COUNCILMAN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MARDI GRAS CONTRACT COMING UP TODAY.

IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

THAT WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON.

AND MAYOR BROWN WILL BE BACK WITH US.

YES, SIR I AM.

AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

I HAVE ON MY SCREEN HERE FOR CLARIFICATION DAVID COLLINS.

DAVID.

THANK YOU.

JUST TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

ONE IS ON THE PARKING PERMITS.

I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.

I TEND TO WRITE THE QUESTIONS DOWN AND FORGET WHAT THE ITEM NUMBER IS.

SEVEN THIS AFTERNOON.

HOW ARE TRAILERS BEING TREATED IN THIS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR MR. PHILOSOPHY OR MR. [INAUDIBLE] OR MR. BUCKLEY, THE DIFFERENCE IN PARKING A CAR PARKING A TRAILER PARKING AN RV.

ACTUALLY, IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, THERE IS ONE CHANGE WE WERE GOING TO BRING FORWARD DURING THE PRESENTATION TODAY TO ADDRESS.

THERE'S A WORD UNDER 34120A, WHICH SAYS TRAVEL TRAILER THAT SHOULD JUST READ TRAILER.

SO OK VERY GOOD.

TRAILER WILL BE ADDRESSED DIRECTLY AS A TRAILER.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SECOND QUESTION, THERE'S A TWENTY FOUR HOUR LIMITATION ON RV'S AND THAT

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KIND OF THAT KIND OF THING.

YES SIR.

I WAS WONDERING IS THAT REALLY LONG ENOUGH.

I'VE HAD TWO PEOPLE SAY THAT TWENTY FOUR HOURS IS A PRETTY SHORT PERIOD FOR BRINGING IT IN FROM WHEREVER YOU'RE STORING IT, GETTING IT CLEANED UP, GETTING IT STOCKED AND GETTING READY TO LEAVE.

AND THE QUESTION IS, COULD THAT BE EXPANDED TO FORTY EIGHT HOURS AND WILL THAT HAVE A DELETERIOUS EFFECT ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE? I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SIR, BUT THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL.

WHY IS THAT? JUST BECAUSE.

THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLE AND THAT IT WOULD YOU'D BE REACHING THE POINT WHERE THEY WOULD BE MONOPOLIZING THE CURB REVIEW IN ABOVE 48 HOURS.

WHAT IS THE NORMAL RULE TODAY FOR MONOPOLIZING THE CURB? FORTY EIGHT HOURS.

IT IS FORTY EIGHT HOURS.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

AN RV WOULD TYPICALLY TAKE UP TWO OR THREE VEHICLE SPACES.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CONCERN.

THAT'S THE CONCERN OF ANYBODY THAT TRIES TO FIND A PARKING SPOT.

IF YOU GO DOWN THERE AND THERE'S MULTIPLE RV'S PARKED ON THE STREET.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S TOTALLY A POLICY CALL GUYS.

WE'RE NOT NOBODY IS DYING ON THE SWORD ON THAT ONE.

WE'RE GOOD WITH WHATEVER YOU PICK.

I JUST DON'T SEE THAT AS A BIG ISSUE.

BUT, I MEAN, MAYBE I'M WRONG.

JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ONE IN MIND.

AND I HAD AN RV ONE TIME AND THEY'RE RIGHT.

YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE LEAVING FRIDAY, YOU USUALLY BRING IT TO THE HOUSE LIKE TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY TO START STOCKING IT UP, GETTING CLEANED UP AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I GET IT.

BUT IT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS, IS THAT WHILE THAT MAKES IT MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR ME, IT MAY REALLY STINK IF YOU'RE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS.

ALL RIGHT.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.

AND WE'LL GET INTO THIS MORE, OF COURSE, WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, OK.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION ABOUT VERBIAGE IN G TWO II THE PHRASE IS BORROW A RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT AND TALKING ABOUT PENALTIES AND VIOLATIONS.

SHOULD THAT NOT READ TO BORROW A PERMIT OR A PASS? BECAUSE BORROWING THE PERMIT WE MAKE THE DISTINCTION IN THIS VERBIAGE BETWEEN PERMIT AND PASS PERMIT BEING THE THING YOU STICK TO THE WINDOW AND PASS BEING THE THING THAT YOU CAN MOVE FROM CAR TO CAR.

AND THIS MAKES IT A VIOLATION TO BORROW OR LOAN, A PERMIT NOT A PASS.

IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE BOTH, BUT OK, ALL RIGHT MAYOR THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THIS ONE.

VERY GOOD MOVING TO COUNCILWOMAN ROBB MARIE.

OH, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.

I WAS JUST BEING TRIPOD CHALLENGED, SO YOU SAW MY HAND I LOST MY TRIPOD THERE.

[LAUGHTER].

ALL RIGHT.

I'M MOVING ALSO TO YOU, MARIE, FOR ANY CLARIFICATION OF AGENDA ITEMS? NO, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOHN PAUL.

I THINK THE ONLY, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS SEVEN A AND B MORE DURING OUR ACTUAL MEETING IS THAT CORRECT? YES, YES SIR AND WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT COMING UP IN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES.

OH AND WORKSHOP 2 YEAH.

AND THEN SO MY ONLY QUESTION, I THINK IS 8 B AND IT HAS TO DO WITH TXDOT MONEY OR IMPROVEMENTS, AND ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SEAWALL WHEN IT COMES TO HERE, IT SAYS TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AND THEN PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS.

AND SO ARE WE LOOKING AT WITH THAT MONEY, WHAT ALL IS THAT LOOKING TO FUND WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE SEAWALL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO COUNCILMAN LISTOWSKI THIS IS ROBERT WINIECKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THIS IS A FUNNY OPPORTUNITY, CAME UP THROUGH TXDOT KIND OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND DO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON SEAWALL AND HELP REDUCE TRAFFIC SPEEDS AND EVERYTHING.

SO ONE THING IT DOES IS IT WOULD FUND A SEGMENTED CURB ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF SEAWALL BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE SIDEWALK, WHICH WOULD CREATE A SEPARATION FOR VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS SO WE DON'T HAVE VEHICLES PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK, REDUCING THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF IT.

THE SECOND COMPONENT WOULD BE TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT 75TH AND SEAWALL AND 89TH AND SEAWALL.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS DOWN THERE TOWARDS THE WEST END OF THE SEAWALL.

AND THEN THE THIRD PIECE WOULD BE LIKE WE WERE DOING, THERE AT TWENTY SEVENTH STREET WHERE WE'VE GOT THE MEDIANS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN TO GO AHEAD.

AND YEAH, EVERYBODY LIKES THOSE RIGHT TO SHORTEN THE CROSSING PATHS AND MAKE IT

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SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS.

THIS WOULD FUND IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THAT AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS ALONG THE SEAWALL BETWEEN 6TH STREET AND 103RD.

SO BASICALLY, INSTEAD OF HAVING A GOOD LONG MILE LONG STRETCH OF ROADWAY, PEOPLE GOING 40, 50 MILE AN HOUR, YOU WOULD HAVE THESE STRATEGICALLY PLACED NARROWING POINTS OR CHOKING POINTS OF THE ROADWAY TO HELP REDUCE THE SPEED, BUT ALSO PROVIDE SAFER LOCATIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS.

AND THEN THE LAST COMPONENT WOULD BE TO REPLACE THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL CROSSING.

WE HAVE THE SAN LUIS WITH A HAWK SYSTEM, WHICH WOULD HAVE MAST ARMS THAT GO OUT OVER THE ROADWAY AND ACTUALLY GET THOSE LIGHTS IN PEOPLE'S FACES MORE SO.

SO IT'S IT'S A MULTITUDE OF OPTIONS AND SOLUTIONS.

OK, THAT ANSWERED ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

AND I GUESS IF I COULD GET JUST A LITTLE MORE AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL AT THIS TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIANS I PERSONALLY LIKE THE MEDIAN THERE AT 27TH STREET.

I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT.

I THINK IT IMPROVES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

IT'S A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE.

I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OVER THE SUMMER AND SEE WHAT THAT REALLY DOES.

BUT I HAVE I HAVE FIELDED SO MANY, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS AND COMPLAINTS ON WHY WE'RE DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY OF IT REGARDING THE EMERGENCY LANE, OF COURSE, THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME TO SEE FOR MANY YEARS NOW.

AND THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HARM EMS AND FIRE FROM GETTING TO CALLS.

SO IT'LL BE REALLY INTERESTING TO KIND OF SEE HOW THAT WORKS, SEE IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH IT OVER THE SUMMERTIME, LIKE I SAID.

BUT AGAIN, PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO DO GOOD.

AT THE END OF THE DAY.

THE SEGMENT OF CURB THAT YOU SAID IS GOING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

SO WHAT'S HAPPEN THERE? WHAT'S HAPPENED THERE COUNCIL MEMBER LISTOWSKI IS OVER THE YEARS AS THE COUNTY HAS PAVED THE SEAWALL, THEY HAVEN'T BUILT IT UP TO THE DEPTH THAT THEY'VE LAID ASPHALT DOWN.

SO WE'VE LOST THE CURB.

AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SEAWALL TO DIFFERENTIATE FROM THE PARKING LANE TO THE SIDEWALK.

SO WE END UP WITH THEM PARKED ON THE SIDEWALK AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE CAR AND THEY DO SO BECAUSE THE SEAWALL, FAST MOVING TRAFFIC, THEY DON'T WANT TO OPEN THEIR DOORS INTO TRAFFIC, SO THEY JUST PULL UP ON THE SIDEWALK.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THAT BECAUSE AS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE OBVIOUSLY PLENTY OF DISCUSSION ON THE SIDEWALKS ARE REALLY BUSY AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT AS SAFE AS WE CAN FOR THE PEDESTRIANS UP THERE.

YEAH, YEAH.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN YOU BROUGHT UP, OF COURSE, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS IN FRONT OF SAN LUIS AND HOLIDAY INN.

YEAH CAN'T WAIT FOR THOSE TO GO IN.

AGAIN, I GET SO MANY COMMENTS ON THOSE SIGNALS.

THE BIGGEST THING IS WE'VE GOT TO GET THEM OFF OF SOLAR AND GET THEM ON A REGULAR POWER, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN THE ACHILLES HEEL IN THE WHOLE PROCESS, IS THAT THE SOLAR PANELS ARE GIANT WIND SAILS AND WE'RE EITHER HAVING TO TAKE THEM DOWN IN THE ADVANCE OF ANY KIND OF WIND EVENT OR THE WIND TAKES THEM DOWN FOR US AND PUTS THEM OUT OF SERVICE FOR UNGODLY AMOUNTS OF TIME, BECAUSE AS WITH EVERYTHING THESE DAYS, WE CAN'T GET PARTS.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT FOR US.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'VE HAD NO AUTOPEDS IN THAT AREA SINCE WE'VE PUT THEM UP, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

AND CURRENTLY THEY ARE NOT WORKING.

IS THAT RIGHT? ONE IS.

THE ONE IN FRONT OF SAN LUIS IS WORKING NOW, THE ONE BY THE HOLIDAY INN IS WE'RE WAITING FOR PARTS ON THAT ONE.

OK, SO WE'VE GOT ONE FUNCTIONAL HERE SOON, CORRECT.

OK.

YEAH.

HOPEFULLY SO WITHIN ANOTHER MONTH OR SO AT THE LATEST, DEPENDING ON PART ARRIVAL.

OK [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT, JOHN, BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT TOPIC, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, SIR, WE'VE GOT COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER.

COUNCILWOMAN ROBB, I THINK WANTS TO ASK QUESTIONS ON THAT.

YEAH I ACTUALLY HAD THAT ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO ASK I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP JOHN.

SO OVERALL, THIS IS BASICALLY WE'RE APPLYING FOR A GRANT JUST TO MAKE THE SEAWALL OVERALL MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FROM 6TH STREET, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY DOWN TO 103RD IS THAT CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND ESPECIALLY AT 75TH AND 89TH STREET THOSE ARE HIGH PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AREAS, BOTH OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN THERE AS WELL AS THE CONDOMINIUMS. AND AT 89TH STREET WE ALSO HAVE THE FISHING PIER AND NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A BOWLING ALLEY AND SOME OTHER STUFF IN THAT LOCATION THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC DOWN THERE.

SO THOSE SIGNALS WE'VE DONE, THE TRAFFIC STUDIES ON THOSE THEY'RE

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MERITED AND WE'RE HOPING WE CAN GET FUNDED BY TXDOT ON THOSE BECAUSE THAT'LL HELP OUT TREMENDOUSLY OUT THERE AND TXDOT OBVIOUSLY WANTS TO HELP US WITH THAT.

AND BRIAN, IF I CAN CHIME IN THE INTERSECTION AT 75TH AND SEAWALL, THAT 75TH STREET SEEMS TO BE A NICE ROUTE DETOUR FOR ALL OUR GPS UNITS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CARS AND ON OUR PHONES THAT'S SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC'S BAD ON 61ST GO DOWN, STUART, TO SEVENTY FIFTH, MAKE A LEFT, THEN MAKE A RIGHT ON SEAWALL.

AND NOW THEY HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT THROUGH A STOP SIGN.

SO A SIGNAL WOULD ACTUALLY HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT CONGESTION THAT WE SEE THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND COUNCILWOMAN ROBB MARIE.

AND UNDENIABLY I THINK THE LIGHT AT 75TH STREET WILL HELP.

BUT IT ALSO THEN GIVES CONCERN, ESPECIALLY TO THE RESIDENTS WHEN YOU GET STUCK AT STUART AND 75TH.

AND IF I KNOW, I USE THAT AS A CUT THROUGH.

BUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN HAVRE LAFITTE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS BACK IN THAT AREA.

THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT IT IS GOING TO CAUSE EVEN MORE A BOTTLENECK ON STUART.

SO MY ONE REQUEST WOULD BE WHEN WE GET THAT LIGHT IN, CAN WE ALSO THEN DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AGAIN? AND I KNOW IT WAS DONE IN THE PAST AT 75TH AND STUART.

I THINK THE SMARTEST THING TO DO IS LET'S HOPEFULLY GET THE SIGNAL AT 75TH AND SEAWALL AND THEN WE CAN DO THE STUDY, WHICH WITH THE SIGNAL ON THE SEAWALL THAT MAY ACTUALLY CHANGE THE TRAFFIC PATTERN ENOUGH ON SEVENTY FIFTH AND STUART TO MERIT SOME CHANGES THERE.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IT COULD MAKE IT BETTER OR IT COULD MAKE IT WORSE.

MAKE IT WORSE.

AND I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE COMMUNICATIONS FROM MY RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA ABOUT THE CONCERN THAT IT COULD MAKE IT WORSE.

IN THE 17 YEARS THAT I LIVED THERE, I ALWAYS TOLD MY NEIGHBORS TO GO TO 81ST STREET AND USE THE SIGNAL.

NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

JOHN.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

YOU ALL THROUGH.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER YOU READY.

YEAH, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, IT'S I GUESS THEY'RE RELATED 8 C AND 8 B LOOKING AT SAND CRANE HILL.

SO TODAY WE'RE APPROVING THE SCOPE AND THE PLANS SEGMENT OF THIS PROJECT, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OK.

AND THEN MOVING FORWARD IN MY HEAD THAT'S BASICALLY JUST DUE TO A CLAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE MORE LIKE A RUBBER STAMP ON THIS PROJECT SINCE WE'RE COMMITTING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY TO THE OVERALL PROJECT.

ARE WE YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE IDC BUDGET FOR OUR PARKS, WHAT IMPACT IS THIS HAVING FOR THE FUTURE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS AROUND THE ISLAND? WELL, I'LL CHIME IN ON THAT.

AND THEN STAFF MAY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT IDC, WILLIAM THAT'S A GOOD POINT ON HOW IT IMPACTS OUR OTHER PARKS.

IDC VOTED THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS AND OF COURSE, THIS DESIGN AND SO FORTH AND DUE DILIGENCE THAT WERE BEFORE US THIS AFTERNOON TO APPROVE IF THAT'S APPROVED THAT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PARK.

IDC, THOUGH, FELT THAT IF WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION, WE WOULD DO IT VIA A LOAN SO THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BORROW MONEYS TO PAY THOSE BACK OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

THE LIFE OF THE IDC AND I HAVE EXTRA MONEYS TO HELP BE AVAILABLE FOR FUNDING PARKS IF WE NEED IT.

NOW, BRIAN OR OR SOMEBODY WOULD KNOW TO MAKE THESE PREMIERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT SO WE LOOKED AT Y'ALL BROUGHT IT UP TODAY.

POTENTIAL MAINTENANCE COSTS FROM A STANDPOINT AS FAR AS A YEAR, BECAUSE IN MY HEAD, YOU KNOW, I JUST KNOW JUST BEING AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELD 365 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR, IT GETS EXPENSIVE, TAKING CARE OF SURFACES, FIELDS, AND YOU'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OUT THERE.

SO WHERE DOES THAT FUNDING COME FROM? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A ONE TIME COMMITMENT OF ONE FIELD.

IT'S TEN THOUSAND TO TAKE CARE OF A YEAR WITH WATER STRIPING LAWN LABOR.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER TEN YEARS, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN JUST MAINTENANCE.

AND EVERYBODY WANTS FIRST CLASS AMENITIES.

BUT AS YOU POINT OUT, FIRST CLASS AMENITIES COST A LOT OF MONEY TO MAINTAIN.

THE MONEY WILL COME FROM PROBABLY A THERE'LL BE SOME ONGOING FUNDING IN IDC TO HELP MAINTAIN IT, AS WELL AS SOME GENERAL FUND, AS WELL AS THE LEAGUES THEMSELVES.

ALWAYS CONTRIBUTE TO HELP.

OK, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION.

AND BRIAN CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING.

YES.

AND SO IF YOU KNOW THAT SPORTS TOURISM INITIATIVE HELPS BY INCREASING SALES

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TAX, WHICH THEN FUNNELS BACK INTO THE IDC.

SO THERE IS OBVIOUSLY THE OPTION IF THAT'S SUCCESSFUL BRINGS IN MORE REVENUE TO [INAUDIBLE] THE SALES TAX, THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE MONEY TO SUPPORT MAINTENANCE AND OTHER PROJECTS.

THANKS MICHELE.

APPRECIATE IT.

PRETTY GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE, WILLIAM? YEAH, SORRY ONE MORE ITEM.

CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME 8 M.

EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE WITH OUR IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE APPROVING MONEY FOR I'M SORRY YEAH 8 M.

AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING THERE FOR THE SALE OF OUR SANTA FE WELLS THAT WE HAVE.

BRANDON, DO YOU OR TRINO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? YES, I CAN ADDRESS IT.

WE WERE APPROACHED BY A WATER DISTRICT ON THE MAINLAND THAT WAS INTERESTED IN PURCHASING SOME OF THESE WELLS.

RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE DORMANT.

THEY'RE NOT BEING USED BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BRING THEM UP TO A USABLE LEVEL.

IT'S A LITTLE COST PROHIBITIVE.

SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE APPRAISING THE WATER RIGHTS AND THE LAND AND THE PROPERTY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE PUT SOMETHING OUT FOR BIDS TO ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF SELLING THE WELLS.

IT'LL JUST DEPEND ON A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE LOOK AT.

BUT WE NEED TO EVALUATE IT FIRST.

SOME BACKGROUND ON THESE WELLS.

WHEN WE WENT ON GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY IN THE 90S, IT TOOK AWAY A LOT OF THE USE OF THESE WELLS.

WE CAN GET, IN THEORY, UP TO ABOUT EIGHT MILLION GALLONS A DAY OUT OF THESE WELLS, WHICH IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF WHAT WE USE IS NOT A LOT.

AND THERE'S NO DIRECT PATH TO GET THAT WATER TO US AND THE WATER NOW, DOESN'T NEED TO COME TO GALVESTON FROM THE WELLS.

IT NEEDS TO GO TO GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY.

SO GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY NOW HAS BUILT IN RESERVES AND SUCH FOR US.

AND WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT, IN ADDITION TO THIS ONE WATER DISTRICT THAT HAS SOME INTEREST IN ONE OF THE WELLS, ALSO TURNING THE REST OF THE WELLS OVER, SELLING THE REST OF THE WELLS OR TRADING THEM OR SOMETHING TO GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY, BECAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY BECAUSE WHILE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUMP THE WATER OUT OF THE WELLS, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TREAT THE WATER OUT OF THE WELLS TO DO ALL THE NEW STANDARDS AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES ABOUT.

SO IN THE HIGHWAY SIX LINE THAT THEY USED TO COME DOWN, NOW IT'S STILL THERE, BUT IT RUNS THE OTHER DIRECTION.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON IN THE COMING YEAR OR TWO TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH THESE WELL, ISSUES AND WE'VE TALKED TO GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY ABOUT IT AND AS WELL AS THE OTHERS.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS NOW IS IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF ISSUE, THE CITIES THAT HAVE WELLS WITHIN THEIR OWN CITY LIMITS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRANSPORT AS LONG THEY WILL GO LIKE THEY DID DURING THE FREEZE, THEY WILL PULL UP ON WELL AND ALLOW THE GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY WATER TO FLOW TO US.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, WILLIAM.

ANYTHING ELSE? VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

I SAW BILL QUIROGA'S HAND COME UP.

BILL, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH, I JUST SAW ON THE LIGHTING OUT THERE AT THE HOLIDAY INN IN THE SAN LUIS.

THE VERBIAGE THAT IS PLACED OUT THERE.

I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CONFUSED.

THEY SEE A DOUBLE RED BLINKING LIGHT.

THEN IT'LL GO TO A RED LIGHT IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING MORE OF A CAUTION TO STOP, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN THE TWO BLINKING RED LIGHTS, BECAUSE EVEN AFTER THE SEQUENCE IS TIMED OUT, THEN THE BLINKING RED LIGHTS COME OUT AGAIN AND HOLDS UP THE TRAFFIC FOR 4 OR FIVE SECONDS.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE AN ETERNITY SOMETIMES.

YEAH, THERE'S A SIGN UP THERE THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL, BUT IT'S NOT EASILY SEEN.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS ROB WANTS TO ADDRESS.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

LET'S KIND OF WRAP THIS UP, DAVID.

I JUST WANT TO ENDORSE WHAT COUNCILMAN QUIROGA JUST SAID, THAT RAPID BLINKING LIGHT MAKES NO SENSE TO PEOPLE.

AND FOR THEM TO STOP AND READ THAT SIGN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A HECK OF A LOT LONGER THAN IT IS FOR THEM TO STOP AT THE RED LIGHT.

IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE TRAFFIC CODE AND ON THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE TEST, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME FOR ALL OF US.

SO I AGREE.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY RUN INTO IN A NORMAL COURSE OF A DAY.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

VERY GOOD.

I HAD ONE ITEM, COUNCIL I'M GOING TO BRING UP IT IS ITEM 8 A AS IN APPLE.

THIS ITEM HERE IS IF YOU READ THE PACKET MATERIAL THE PORT HAS GONE ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN FOR THE CITY BACK IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN, I THINK IT WAS.

OVER THIS TIME, THE AMOUNT OF PREMIUMS THAT ARE BEING PAID BY PORT EMPLOYEES

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COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURES FOR HEALTH CARE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES HAS BEEN UPSIDE DOWN FOR A LONG TIME NOW.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR PACKET MATERIAL THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN ASSUMING THESE COSTS TO MAKE UP FOR THAT SHORTFALL WITH THE PORT.

THE PORTS CONTRACT WITH THE CITY HAD EXPIRED THIS LAST DECEMBER, WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA HERE IS AN INTERLOCAL TO KEEP THE PORT ON OUR CONTRACT UNTIL THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, TO ALLOW THE PORT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING HEALTH INSURANCE OR TO RENEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY ON HOW THEY COULD STAY ON OUR PLAN HERE.

THIS IS ON THE WHARVES BOARD AGENDA FOR THIS COMING TUESDAY ALSO.

AND MIKE LOFTIN WILL BE PRESENT AT THEIR MEETING TO MAKE A LITTLE PRESENTATION ON THIS.

MIKE, I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE CALL HERE.

JUST REAL QUICKLY, I WANT TO CONFIRM WITH YOU THAT THE INTERLOCAL THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA HERE THAT ALSO WILL ALLOW US TO RENEGOTIATE IF THE PORT WANTS TO RENEGOTIATE, TO STAY ON OUR PLAN AND PAST THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? I BELIEVE IT'S CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES.

MARIE, GO RIGHT AHEAD.

I HAD A QUESTION ON THE MEMO SINCE WE'RE SELF-INSURED.

AND IN THE MEMO IT DISCUSSED THAT WE FOUND OUT AFTER THE BUDGET YEAR THAT THE COSTS HAD BEEN HIGHER.

TYPICALLY, COMPANIES I WORK WITH IN THE PAST OR OF OTHER COMPANIES THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT MY HUSBAND HAS WORKED WITH OR FOR YOU WOULD REVIEW IT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND WHAT APPEARED IN THAT MEMO WAS IT CAME AS A SURPRISE A YEAR LATER, OR AND I JUST WAS WONDERING WHY WE'RE NOT REVIEWING THEM MORE OFTEN? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE HEALTH BOARD THAT OVERSEES THE PLAN, THAT INCLUDES CITY EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE HR DIRECTOR AND MYSELF AND ALSO THE CFO FOR THE PORT, LOOK AT THAT EVERY MONTH.

THE PROBLEM IS THE LAG TIME BY OUR ADMINISTRATOR IS TYPICALLY FORTY FIVE DAYS TO GET THE INFORMATION IN.

THE TREND THAT WE SAW WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE BUDGET LAST SUMMER, DIDN'T ANYWHERE COME CLOSE TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REPORTING FOR JULY AND EVERY MONTH SINCE THEN THAT GOT TO US ON A FORTY FIVE DAY DELAY.

SO WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF IT.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN MY CAREER THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT ARE THE MOST VOLATILE IN CITY GOVERNMENT FINANCE.

ONE IS SALES TAX.

EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.

THE OTHER IS HEALTH BENEFIT COST.

I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN A NUMBER OF TIMES AND IT'S A REASON WE DO QUARTERLY MONITORING AS A CITY AND A REASON THAT THE BOARD LOOKS AT THE PLAN MONTHLY.

MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT OUR ADMINISTRATOR IF THERE'S SUCH A LAG TIME, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS REALLY IN THIS DAY AND AGE TO BE QUITE FAR BEHIND WHAT A TYPICAL REPORTING WOULD BE ON A SELF INSURED COMPANY.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO PRESS BLUE CROSS ON THAT.

BLUE CROSS I WILL SAY THIS BLUE CROSS IS A VAST IMPROVEMENT OVER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR.

YEAH.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MARIE ON THAT.

NO, I THINK SO.

OK, VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD.

WE'RE ZIPPING THROUGH OUR AGENDA.

WE CAN SEE.

VERY GOOD ITEM 3 D PLEASE, JANELLE.

[3D. Discuss The 2021 Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) And HOME Investment Partnerships (HOME) Planning For Proposed Objectives And Projects In The Amount Of CDBG $1,166,618 And HOME $246,705. (A. Law - 10 Minutes)]

THREE D.

DISCUSS THE 2021 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CDBG AND HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP HOME PLANNING FOR A PROPOSED OBJECTIVES AND PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF CDBG ONE MILLION ONE HUNDRED SIXTY SIX THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN DOLLARS IN HOME TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIVE DOLLARS.

COUNCIL THIS IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, BUT IT WILL BE COMING UP HERE IN THE FUTURE.

WE HAVE MS. ALICE LAW WITH US FROM OUR GRANTS AND HOUSING DEPARTMENT, MS. LAW.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.

OK.

AS STATED, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS OUR 2021 CDBG AND HOME PROGRAMS.

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THE CITY RECEIVES AN ANNUAL ALLOCATION OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM FUNDS FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

AS STATED, WE WILL RECEIVE ONE POINT ONE SIX MILLION FOR CDBG FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND A LITTLE OVER TWO HUNDRED FORTY SIX THOUSAND FOR HOME.

THESE THE FUNDING FOR THE 2021 PROGRAM YEAR IS A DECREASE FROM OUR 2020 YEAR.

THE CDBG WAS REDUCED BY A LITTLE OVER FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND AND THE HOME WAS REDUCED FOR ALMOST TWENTY NINE THOUSAND.

THE PRIMARY USE OF THESE PROGRAM FUNDS IS FOR PROJECTS TO ASSIST OUR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME POPULATION.

LOW TO MODERATE INCOME IS DEFINED AS HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE AT 80 PERCENT OR BELOW OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME AS PROVIDED BY HUD.

AND AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR AT 80 PERCENT AMI IS SIXTY THREE THOUSAND AND FIFTY DOLLARS.

THESE PROJECTS CAN BE DONE IS A DIRECT BENEFIT FOR THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PERSON OR HOUSEHOLD OR ON AN AREA BASIS, AND OUR CENSUS TRACTS THAT ARE AT LEAST FIFTY ONE PERCENT OR MORE MADE UP OF LOW MODERATE INCOME POPULATION.

WE HAVE DEVELOPED A PROPOSED OBJECTIVE AND PROJECT LIST THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR THIS ITEM.

EACH OF THE OBJECTIVES MEETS OUR 2019 FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT GUIDES OUR ANNUAL ALLOCATIONS AS REQUIRED BY HUD.

AND EACH OF THE PROJECTS IS AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT AS DEFINED IN THE HUD REGULATIONS.

YOU HAVE THE LIST AVAILABLE IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

MR. QUIROGA, GO RIGHT AHEAD.

OH, I'M LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWN WHERE IT COMES DOWN AT OUTCOMES.

IT SAYS 15 BLOCK IMPROVEMENTS.

WHO DEDICATES WHAT BLOCK IS TO BE IMPROVED.

I GUESS THIS IS FOR LIKE STREETS OR ALLEYWAYS OR SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE STREETS IN THE LOW TO MEDIUM INCOME.

AND HOW DO YOU DEFINE THAT? OK, THIS WOULD BE FOR A STREET REPAVING PROJECT.

WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

NORMALLY THE WAY THAT WORKS IS THEY HAVE A LIST OF PRIORITIZED STREETS THAT THEY NEED TO REPAVE AND WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY STREETS THAT ARE ON THEIR LIST THAT ARE WITHIN THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS.

PRETTY MUCH MOST OF OUR CORE CITY AREA IS LOW AND MODERATE INCOME.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PRETTY WIDE RANGE OF AREAS THAT WE CAN INCLUDE IN THE STREET AND PAVE.

WHERE DO WE GET A LIST OF THAT TO LOOK TO SEE? BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION WITH GALVESTON VISION ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU CONSIDERING MIDTOWN OR THAT DEFINITION OF MIDTOWN AREA? WELL, OUR PRIMARY LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS ARE FIXED ABOUT 6TH STREET TO 61ST STRAIGHT ON THE NORTH SIDE FLOWING THROUGH HARBORSIDE.

OVER TO POST-OFFICE, AFTER ABOUT 26TH STREET AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, IT WOULD BE SEAWALL BOULEVARD RUNNING ALONG SEAWALL BOULEVARD AND AVENUE S TO 61ST AND THEN WEST OF 61ST, WHAT'S KNOWN AS KIND OF THE HOLLYWOOD HEIGHTS AREA FROM HEARDS LANE TO STUART ROAD AND JONES ROAD OUT TO ABOUT 74TH OR SO.

THOSE ARE OUR PRIMARY LOW TO MODERATE INCOME TARGET AREAS.

OK, ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE WOULD THIS INCLUDES SPEED BUMPS.

AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT IS RIGHT ON 57TH STREET, WE HAVE LIKE I'M PRETTY SURE THIS WEEKEND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HEAVY TRAFFIC AND THERE'S AN APP NOW THAT YOU CAN PLACE INTO IT STREETS IN GALVESTON.

AND ONE OF THE THOROUGHFARES THAT'S BEING USED HEAVILY NOW IS 57TH STREET FROM BROADWAY TO AVENUE S.

AND IT'S LIKE A RACETRACK.

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I TRY TO COME OUT ONE DAY AND THERE WERE SO MANY CARS JUST ZIPPING BY.

SO THAT'S THE REASON I'M ASKING.

WOULD THAT INCLUDE SPEED BUMPS? IT CAN INCLUDE SPEED HUMPS.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE A SPEED BUMP POLICY THAT HAS TO BE AGREED TO BY THE RESIDENTS AND IT HAS TO BE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND ALL THOSE THINGS DONE.

SO I GUESS I HAVE TO GO TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND SIGN A PETITION.

NO, SIR.

WE HAVE A WE HAVE A FULL SPEED BUMP POLICY.

ROB CAN GET THAT TO.

OK, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. LAW? THANK YOU, MISS LAW, YOU'LL HAVE THIS BACK TO COUNCIL.

WHEN DO YOU FORESEE THIS? I HOPE WELL, I WILL BRING THIS BACK TO YOU IN YOUR MAY MEETING FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

AND WE WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

JANELLE, ITEM 3 E, PLEASE, MA'AM.

[3E. Discussion Of Short Term Rentals (Glywasky/Loftin – 40 Minutes) l Voluntary]

OK, ITEM 3 E, DISCUSSION OF SHORT TERM RENTAL.

COUNCIL WE HAVE BEFORE US THREE TOPICS CONCERNING SHORT TERM RENTALS.

AND I WANT TO GIVE JUST A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT WILL MAKE COMMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS ON THIS.

WE'VE DIVIDED IT UP INTO VOLUNTARY COLLECTION AGREEMENTS, VCAS.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST.

WE'LL MOVE THEN TO THE CONCEPT OF AN ANNUAL REGISTRATION FEE AND HOW THOSE MONIES POSSIBLY COULD BE UTILIZED.

THIS IS COMING.

THERE HAS BEEN A SUGGESTION FROM THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY, SPECIFICALLY CLAIRE REISWERG, MARY BRANUM AND LIZ OVERTON IN PRESENTING A POLICY ON AN ANNUAL REGISTRATION FEE.

BUT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT AND I'LL GIVE MORE INPUT ON THAT AS WE GET TO THAT TOPIC.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE TOPIC OF POSSIBLE FUTURE ORDINANCES CONCERNING SHORT TERM.

BUT LET'S START WITH THE VACATION EXCUSE ME, VOLUNTARY COLLECTION AGREEMENT.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.

MIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO LEAD THAT OFF, SO I'LL LET YOU LEAD THAT OFF SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WANT TO START OUT BY SAYING THE MANAGEMENT TEAM STRONGLY RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY ADOPT VOLUNTARY COLLECTION AGREEMENTS AS A MEANS OF ENHANCING HOTEL TAX REVENUE.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT THAT POSITION TO YOU THIS MORNING, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO BACK IN TIME A LITTLE BIT.

LOOK AT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE HOTEL TAX IS FOR.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ENSURING THAT AMENITIES ARE PROVIDED FOR TOURISTS AND THAT THE COST OF SUPPORTING TOURISM IS NOT BORNE BY RESIDENTS, BUT BY TOURISTS THEMSELVES.

THERE WAS A SEVENTEEN HUNDREDS OF 18TH CENTURY, IF YOU WILL, ECONOMISTS QUITE FAMOUS NAMED ADAM SMITH, WHO SAID THERE WAS FOUR PRINCIPLES OF A GOOD TAX.

IF THERE CAN BE SUCH A THING CERTAINTY, EQUITY, SIMPLICITY AND EFFICIENCY.

AND THE HOTEL TAX COLLECTION PROCESS RIGHT NOW FALLS SHORT IN EVERY RESPECT.

CERTAINTY IS NOT THERE.

IT'S VERY HARD TO ASSURE THIS BECAUSE IT'S SELF REPORTED AND DIFFICULT TO ASSURE THE NONRESIDENT OWNERS KNOW ABOUT OUR ORDINANCE AND OUR STR REGISTRATION PROCESS.

FROM AN EQUITY STANDPOINT, WE KNOW THERE ARE MANY OWNERS WHO DON'T PAY THE TAX NOW, AND THAT GIVES THEM A NINE PERCENT UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER OWNERS AND HOTELS WHO DO.

FROM A SIMPLICITY STANDPOINT, WE'RE RELYING ON THE OWNER KNOWING THAT THEY SHOULD COMPLY.

AND THERE IS NO SIMPLE UNIFORM WE'RE OUT TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THEM.

FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, WE'RE COLLECTING DIRECTLY FROM MANY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHT NOW, AND THAT HAMPERS SOME OF OUR DISCOVERY EFFORTS.

JANELLE IS GOING TO PUT A CHART UP ON THE SCREEN THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.

THE FINANCIAL TRENDS HAVE BECOME CLEAR AS WE'VE STUDIED THIS IN THE LAST YEAR AND WE'VE COVERED THIS BEFORE.

BEGINNING IN THE STATE FISCAL YEAR 2008.

WE USE THE STATE BECAUSE WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT THE STATE IS COLLECTING A TWO PERCENT TAX IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

THAT GIVES US A BASIS FOR COMPARISON WITH OUR OWN COLLECTIONS.

WHEN I FIRST CAME TO GALVESTON IN 2014, THE AUDITORS WOULD ALWAYS COME IN WITH THIS CHART AND SAY, WHY DOES THE CITY COLLECT MORE? AND WE KNEW, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE WERE PURSUING SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THE STATE

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WAS NOT.

BUT THEN IN THE SPRING OF 2017, THEY SIGNED THEIR AGREEMENTS, AND STARTED THE FIRST VOLUNTARY COLLECTION AGREEMENT PROCESS I THINK IT WAS WITH AIRBNB.

SINCE THAT TIME, THE STATE HAS GROWN THEIR COLLECTIONS TO WHERE WITH THE CLOSE OF FISCAL YEAR 20 ON A PER PENNY BASIS THEY HAD COLLECTED ONE MILLION NINE HUNDRED EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THAT PERIOD THAT ENDED AUGUST 31ST, 12 MONTHS.

WE HAVE COLLECTED ONE MILLION SEVEN TWENTY ONE FIVE TWENTY FOUR OURSELVES FOR THAT SAME PERIOD THAT TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS DIFFERENCE.

LET ME EMPHASIZE, THAT'S BASED ON A ONE PERCENT TAX ON A NINE PERCENT BASIS THAT WOULD BE TWO POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.

THE GAP IS CONTINUING TO GROW AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS YEAR.

AND BRYSON IS WITH US.

HE'S ESTIMATING NOW THAT THAT NUMBER AT THE END OF THE YEAR WILL BE OVER THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT YOU SEE.

WE KNOW FROM OUR TOTAL HOT COLLECTIONS, FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS AS WELL, THAT THE SHARE OF TOTAL COLLECTIONS IS GROWING BECAUSE AND I THINK THE REPORT THAT THE PARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVE MADE THIS MORNING WAS INSTRUCTIVE IN THIS RESPECT, THAT THERE'S A DEFINITE TREND TOWARDS SHORT TERM RENTALS AWAY FROM HOTELS.

MAYBE THAT WILL REVERSE ITSELF.

TIME WILL TELL.

BUT FOR THE MEANTIME, WE'RE MISSING OUT ON A LOT OF HOTEL TAX REVENUE.

LET ME GIVE YOU SOME BASIC NUMBERS HERE.

WE HAVE TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES, I BELIEVE, THAT ARE REGISTERED WITH THE PARK BOARD.

AND IN FISCAL 20, THEY PAID IN SIX POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT'S TWENTY THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS EACH.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COLLECTIONS THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S ABOUT A THOUSAND MORE SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT ARE PAYING THE STATE THAT ARE NOT PAYING US.

AND IF WE COULD GET TWO MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OFF OF ADOPTING VOLUNTARY COLLECTION AGREEMENTS, NOT ONLY WOULD THAT HELP THE PARK BOARD, BUT IT WOULD HELP THE CITY TWO MILLION DOLLARS WOULD RESULT IN FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS COMING TO THE CITY THROUGH THE TRICKLE DOWN PROCESS.

NOW, LET'S SEPARATE SOME THINGS HERE ON SOME OF THE POINTS TO BE MADE FOR AND AGAINST THIS.

VOLUNTARY COLLECTION AGREEMENT DOESN'T SOLVE THE REGISTRATION PROBLEM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

DOESN'T MAKE IT WORSE, DOESN'T SOLVE IT.

NEITHER DOES REGISTRATION SOLVE THE COLLECTION PROBLEM.

HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE US TO IDENTIFY THE ESTIMATED ONE THOUSAND SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT AREN'T REGISTERED WITH THE PARK BOARD? AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE MISSING OUT ON TAX REVENUE FROM ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH OUR ORDINANCE AND THE STATE TAX CODE, WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE PURPOSE OF AUDITING AND IN LEGAL COMPLIANCE IT'S TO INCREASE REVENUE.

IF WE CAN INCREASE OUR REVENUE THIS MUCH.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN THAT'S IMPROVED COMPLIANCE.

IT GETS AT THE FAIRNESS QUESTION.

IT GETS AT THE EQUITY QUESTION.

AND SINCE THE STATE ADOPTED THEIR VOLUNTARY COLLECTION AGREEMENTS, THEY'VE COLLECTED SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS FROM JUST AIRBNB AND HOME AWAY INCEPTION THROUGH THE END OF FISCAL 20.

AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER TEN MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CITY AND OUR NINE PERCENT FOR THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME.

SO LET ME RECAP.

VCAS ALLOW THE CITY TO MEET ALL OF ADAM SMITH'S FOUR TESTS FOR TAX, WHICH STILL HOLD UP TODAY.

THERE'S CERTAINTY INVOLVED WITH THE COLLECTION AT THE POINT OF THE SALE BY THE PLATFORM, THERE'S EQUITY.

MANY MORE SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS WILL BE PAYING THE TAX.

THERE'S SIMPLICITY SIMPLE TO ADMINISTER, VERY MUCH LIKE GETTING THE SALES TAX RETURN FROM THE STATE.

AND IT'S EFFICIENT.

IT WILL REDUCE OUR COLLECTION COSTS AND ALLOW US TO FOCUS MORE ON REGISTRATION.

IN A SENSE, IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE THIS.

AND SO WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT VCA'S BE ADOPTED WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY.

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VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL.

COUNCIL, I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND TOO THAT THERE HAS BEEN THROUGH STAFF, BEEN A LOT OF DIALOG ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT, A LOT OF RESEARCH AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PLATFORMS OUT THERE AND WITH OTHER CITIES.

THE VCA AT THIS POINT, FROM OUR DIALOG AND THIS IS WITH EXPEDIA WHO MANAGES THE VRBO.

THEY WOULD COLLECT THOSE FUNDS THEY WOULD REMIT TO THE STATE, THEIR PORTION TO THE CITY, THEIR PORTION.

WHEN THEY REMIT THAT TO THE CITY, THEY WOULD PROVIDE AN AGGREGATE ACCOUNTING OF THE MONEY'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER ACCOUNTING OF THE MONIES THEY HAVE SAID EXPEDIA AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, THAT IF WE PASS AN ORDINANCE HERE THAT MANDATES REGISTRATION OF ALL SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THEY HAVE TO DISPLAY THAT NUMBER ON ANY PLATFORMS THAT THEY USE TO PUBLICIZE THE RENTALS, THAT EXPEDIA WOULD AGREE TO MAKE THAT A MANDATED REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO BE ON THEIR PLATFORM AND WOULD NOT LIST THEM IF THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER.

FROM AN AUDITING STANDPOINT, IN VISITING WITH OUR CITY AUDITOR, AS LONG AS WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHICH WE SHOULD HAVE THROUGH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS THERE AT THE PARK BOARD AND THOSE THEN THE CITY AUDITOR CAN USE THAT REGISTRATION LIST FOR AUDITING.

AND ALSO, IF HE WANTS OR WE ARE AUDITING INDIVIDUAL UNITS, EXPEDIA SAYS THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE INDIVIDUAL INFORMATION ON THOSE UNITS FOR AN AUDITING PROCESS.

THE LAST THING IS FOR THE OPERATORS THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS.

WE HAVE VERIFIED THAT IF WE HAVE A VCA WITH, SAY, VRBO, THEN THOSE RENTAL ACTIVITIES THAT GO ON FOR THAT YEAR WITH THE VRBO, THOSE OWNERS WOULD NOT HAVE TO FILE A FORM WITH THE STATE OR THE CITY.

AND THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WANT TO THROW OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED.

AND MUCH LIKE, ESPECIALLY FROM EXPEDIA STANDPOINT, IS KIND OF THE LAY OF THE LAND ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT.

MARIE, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP AND THEN WE'LL START TAKING QUESTIONS.

WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVING DISCUSSED WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL GROUP, BUT THEN LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS, RENTALS CITIES WHO HAVE USED THE VCA'S SOME OF THEM ARE GOING AWAY FROM THEM.

AND I THINK THE REASON HAS TO DO WITH THE INABILITY TO ACTUALLY AUDIT IT.

AND I KNOW I'VE READ THROUGH THE CONTRACT WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TO US QUITE SOME TIME AGO, AND IT STATED IN THERE THAT WE COULD DO TWO AUDITS A YEAR.

LIKE HOW COMMITTED IS EXPEDIA TO ACTUALLY LETTING THAT HAPPEN? WELL, IN A EMAIL TO MYSELF, THEY PUT THAT IN WRITING.

NOW, I THINK THE DETAILS ARE GOING TO BE WORKED OUT.

THIS IS MY FEELING THAT IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH VCA AND LET'S SINGLE OUT EXPEDIA, THAT WE WOULD LOOK IN THE CONTRACT, HOW WE WOULD STIPULATE THAT.

OK, AND THEN SO WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION ON ALL THE INDIVIDUALS RENTALS THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTING, HAVING RENTED A LOT OF FOR RENT BY OWNERS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

ACTUALLY, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU CONTACT THEM TO DO A RENTAL, THEY'LL SAY, OH, WELL, YOU CAN PAY ONE NIGHT THROUGH THIS GROUP AND THEN YOU CAN GO RIGHT TO MY RENTAL SITE AND PAY THE REST.

THIS WAY YOU AVOID THE HANDLING FEE THAT THEY'RE CHARGING.

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HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THAT? ALOT OF TIMES IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE STAY.

IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION MARIE CORRECTLY, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL DISCUSS IN THIS NEXT TOPIC WITH THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION FEE.

OKAY.

WHERE THERE WILL BE THE POSSIBILITY OF UTILIZING FUNDS BY THE PARK BOARD FOR A COMPANY THAT WOULD HANDLE THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY ANSWERING MY QUESTION.

I'M SAYING THAT THE SYSTEM IS SET UP SUCH WITH EXPEDIA OR ACTUALLY ANY OF THE AIRBNB OR WHATNOT, THAT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES CAN WORK AROUND THEIR SYSTEM.

SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE I MEAN, EVEN IF THEY HAD A LICENSE FEE, WE WOULDN'T BE AUDITING THE PROPERTIES THROUGH THE VCA, NOR WOULD WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO AUDIT THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE CITY.

IF I COULD POINT OUT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OFF PLATFORM RENTALS WHERE SOMEBODY RENTS ON THE PLATFORM AND THEN THEY GET TOGETHER WITH THE OWNER AND SAY, THE OWNER SAYS, NEXT TIME JUST CALL ME AND WE'LL CUT A DEAL TOGETHER.

WE WILL NOT LEARN FROM THE PLATFORMS, THE IDENTITY OF VARIOUS SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT UNDER THE CONTRACT VRBO THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO IDENTIFY WHO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS ARE.

THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT THAT IS THROUGH THE AUDITS OF VARIOUS INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES.

ON A ROUTINE BASIS, THE VCA'S WILL GIVE US INDIVIDUAL DATA IN ASSISTANCE FOR THE AUDIT OF AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY AS LONG AS WE GIVE THEM THE CONVENIENCE OF A SUBPOENA, BUT THE KEY IS GOING TO BE REGISTRATION OF INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AND SYSTEMATIC AUDITS.

HOWEVER, IT'S CHOSEN TO SET THAT UP AND INCREASED REGISTRATION SHOULD ASSIST WITH THAT.

I DO NOT KNOW THAT THE VCA'S WILL ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO REGISTER PROPERTIES, BUT SOMEHOW THAT IS A TOPIC THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH.

I AGREE.

RIGHT.

THIS SYSTEM CAN BE DEFEATED BY UNSCRUPULOUS STR OWNERS WHO CUT DEALS OUTSIDE THE PLATFORM.

THEY JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THEM DOWN.

YEAH, AND I THINK THE LICENSE SYSTEM IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M 100 PERCENT ON VCA'S, ALTHOUGH I DO SEE THE BENEFITS.

BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO WONDER ABOUT OR, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE RENTAL AGENCIES.

WELL, YOU'RE NOT AUDITING THEM.

WHY ARE YOU AUDITING ME? ALL RIGHT, DAVID, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

WE DO NEED TO CAREFULLY KEEP REGISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT SEPARATE FROM THE VCA, THOSE THE VCA MONEY WILL BE USED FOR REGISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT THAT WILL BE DONE THROUGH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.

THAT'S FOR THE ENFORCEMENT.

AND THE AUDIT IS GOING TO COME FROM.

IN THE MEANTIME, THE VCA IS, AS MR. LOFTIN POINTS OUT, AN EFFICIENT AND FAIR WAY TO GO ABOUT GETTING THESE MONEYS.

WE'RE MISSING OUT ON PERHAPS A THOUSAND OR MORE RENTALS IN THE CITY.

SOME OF IT IS SCOFFLAWS, JUST DELIBERATELY IGNORING IT.

BUT I THINK A GREAT NUMBER OF THEM ARE PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO OR JUST ASSUME THAT ANY TAXES DO IS BEING COLLECTED BY THE PLATFORM, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S CLEARLY NOT THE CASE.

AND THIS TWO MILLION PLUS DOLLARS THAT WE'RE LEAVING LYING ON THE TABLE EVERY YEAR IS GOING TO BE AN ESSENTIAL BOOST TO BEACH PATROL RENOURISHMENT CLEANING OF THE BEACH, NOT TO MENTION THE TRICKLE DOWN AND THE THINGS THAT THAT FUNDS AND THE ARTS AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION ALLOCATIONS.

THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH MONEY TO LIVE LYING ON THE TABLE.

WE CAN AND SHOULD DO HAVE A ROBUST REGISTRATION PROGRAM, BECAUSE IF WE EVER DECIDE TO

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STEP AWAY FROM THE VCA, WE WILL NEED THAT DATABASE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO AUDITS, WE NEED THAT DATABASE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN REGISTRATIONS AND KNOW WHO'S DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

WE NEED THAT DATABASE.

BUT THAT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

IT'S JUST NOT NEARLY AS ROBUST AS IT COULD BE IF WE FOCUS MORE ON THAT.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM THE VOLUNTARY COLLECTION AGREEMENT.

I'VE BEEN COMPLETELY CONVERTED ON THIS NOTION.

THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH MONEY TO LEAVE LYING ON THE TABLE.

I ASKED BRYSON DIRECTLY, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS COULD WE GET IF WE REALLY DEDICATED OURSELVES TO GOING OUT FOR ENFORCEMENT AND COLLECTION AND EDUCATION? AND HE SAID A PITTANCE, A MERE PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR COMPARED TO WHAT THE PLATFORM COLLECTION COULD BENEFIT US.

SO, AS I SAY, HAVING A COMPLETE CONVERT ON THE VCA, BUT I'M ALSO A FULLY DEDICATED TO ENFORCEMENT AND REGISTRATION AND MAINTAINING THAT AS A SEPARATE EFFORT THROUGH THE PARK BOARD.

JOHN PAUL.

I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER DAVID? SO I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT HERE ON VCA AND IT'S NOT A LONG TERM COMMITMENT.

IF I UNDERSTAND THIS, RIGHT I MEAN, WE COULD COMMIT TO THIS FOR A YEAR AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

AND THEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING BETTER OUT THERE, WE CAN GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

BUT AGAIN, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS LAYING ON THE TABLE IS JUST TOO MUCH TO LEAVE OUT THERE.

SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS.

AND WE'LL VOTE FOR IT WHEN IT COMES UP.

WE'LL HAVE THIS COUNCIL.

WE'LL HAVE THIS ON OUR MAY AGENDA AS AN ACTION ITEM.

COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER, WILLIAM.

YEAH, I AGREE A LITTLE BIT WITH WHAT JP AND DAVID IS SAYING, AND ESPECIALLY DAVID, WITH THE SEPARATE THEM IN THE THREE CATEGORIES, VCA REGISTRATION ORDINANCES.

NOW, MY QUESTION, THOUGH, IS THE COUNCIL AND MORE SO THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT ORDER DO WE WANT TO ATTACK THOSE THINGS? YOU KNOW, IF LET'S SAY WE SIGNED UP AS VCA DOES AIRBNB OR ANY OF THESE GROUPS WE SIGNED WITH HAVE ANY LEVERAGE AS FAR AS OUR STANCE ON FUTURE ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS AND ZONING OR ARE WE KIND OF GOT TO SET, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN STANDARDS AND, YOU KNOW, THEN, YOU KNOW, AIRBNB AGREES TO PLAY BY OUR RULES.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, DO WE LOSE CONTROL OR POWER TO REGULATE AND CREATE, YOU KNOW, ZONING OR DIFFERENT REGISTRATION IDEAS, WHATEVER, WHERE WE'VE GOT TO PLAY MORE BY AIRBNB RULES THAN WE DO OUR OWN IS MY CONCERN.

DON DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? THE ABILITY OF THE CITY TO CONTROL SHORT TERM RENTALS BY WAY OF ZONING IS A MATTER PENDING BEFORE THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT.

BUT BASED ON MY OBSERVATION THAT FUTURE LOOKS BLEAK.

I HAD MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES THE CITY OF AUSTIN PASSED A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF ORDINANCES TO DEAL WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS.

THOSE WERE CHALLENGED AND NOW THEY ARE PENDING BEFORE THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT IN ANOTHER SUPREME COURT CASE BROUGHT BY A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AGAINST THE USE OF HOUSES WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION FOR THE USE OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.

THE HOA ATTACKS THAT YOU'RE SAYING IT WAS A A BUSINESS OPERATION AND THE SUPREME COURT SAID NO, THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL USE.

SO THE PREDILECTION OF THE SUPREME COURT IS TO ALLOW FULL USE OF PROPERTY BY THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH MINIMUM REGULATION BY OUTSIDE INTERESTS.

THAT IN TERMS OF REGISTRATION THOUGH.

DON, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING.

I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY COUNCILMAN SHUSTER'S QUESTION.

WHAT YOU MENTIONED REALLY HAS NO BEARING ON IF WE SIGN OF VCA OR NOT.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, YES, THAT IS TRUE.

HIS QUESTION WAS, DO WE LOSE ANY ZONING AUTHORITY? AND I WAS POINTING OUT THAT OUR ZONING AUTHORITY IS QUESTIONABLE AT BEST.

IN TERMS OF REGISTRATION, SINCE SOMEBODY ASKED WHICH ORDER SHOULD WE DO THAT IN? I RECOMMEND WE BEEF UP THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS AND THAT OWNERS BE REQUIRED

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TO PUT THEIR REGISTRATION NUMBERS IN ALL ADVERTISEMENTS.

SO IT WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH VCA NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT BASE INTACT.

BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO TIE UP ON OUR END AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS BEFORE WE GET INTO AGREEMENT WITH AN OUTSIDE COMPANY? THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY CONCERNS ARE.

DAVID, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

DAVID COLLINS.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT THE NOTION THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THESE IN SOME SEQUENTIAL ORDER AND NOT AS SEPARATE TRACKS THAT WE CAN TAKE IN ANY ORDER WE LIKE, I THINK THE DELAYING TACTIC ON CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS OR OBJECTIONS TO THESE VCA'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON WE HAVE TO DO THESE SEPARATELY.

WE CAN DO THESE ORDINANCES AS IT GOES ALONG.

AND I THINK WE'VE ALL KNOWN ALL ALONG THAT WHAT WE WANT TO AVOID DOING IS TRIGGERING THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

THAT'S WHERE THE DANGER IS IN CREATING THE ORDINANCE OR ANY REGULATIONS AROUND THIS THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE VCA.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT LONG TERM AGREEMENTS.

ONE YEAR TWO YEAR AGREEMENTS.

THEY CAN BE MODIFIED, I'M SURE, AS YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE.

BUT I'VE NOT SEEN OR HEARD ANYTHING IN THE WAY OF REGULATION THAT WOULD STAND IN THE WAY OF US SIGNING THE VCA.

AGAIN, I SEE THEM AS TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE TRACKS.

I MIGHT POINT OUT THE OUT CLAUSE IS IN THESE [INAUDIBLE] 30 DAY NOTICE.

VERY GOOD MARIE.

I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, IN I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REGISTRATION AS WE DO THE VCA, BECAUSE IT'S KEY TO HAVE THAT LICENSE NUMBER IN EVERY SINGLE RENTAL BECAUSE THAT IN ITSELF SERVES AS A WATCHGUARD.

SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME TO ECHO WHAT DAVID SAID.

AND TO THAT POINT, MARIE BY HAVING THAT REQUIRED IN THE VCA WOULD ONLY ENHANCE OUR REGISTRATION EFFORTS.

THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET EVERYBODY REGISTERED BEFORE WE GET TO THE VCA.

I THINK IN A MATTER OF FACT, DOING THE VCA FIRST IS A BIT OF A LEVER AS PEOPLE DISCOVER THAT THEY HAVE TO DO JUST EXACTLY THAT REGISTER THEIR RENTALS.

I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE REGISTRATION THEN THE VCA OR DO THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

BILL QUIROGA, BILL.

YEAH, DON, CAN YOU CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THE CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT ABOUT CLASSIFYING THEM AS A BUSINESS? DID YOU SAY IT'S [INAUDIBLE].

A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION CASE? IT WAS TIMBER GROVE.

THE HOA TRIED TO REGULATE THE USE OF HOUSES WITHIN THE HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION TO PREVENT THE USE OF THOSE HOMES AS SHORT TERM RENTALS ARGUING THEY WERE A BUSINESS.

AND THE REGULATIONS SAID THE USES HAD TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

SUPREME COURT HELD THE USE OF THE HOUSE AS AN STR WAS A RESIDENTIAL USE.

HOWEVER, I CONTINUE TO POINT OUT THAT UNDER THE TAX CODE, THEY FALL WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF A HOTEL.

AGAIN, I CANNOT ADEQUATELY SQUARE BOTH DEFINITIONS TO YOU.

IT IS ONE OF THOSE ANOMALIES CREATED BY YOUR STATE GOVERNMENT.

SO IT'S STILL UP IN THE AIR BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO ME IT'S UNFAIR IF THEY'RE NOT CLASSIFIED AS A BUSINESS.

BUT IN THE TAX CODE, IT SAYS, IT IS A BUSINESS.

SO WHO HAS PRECEDENT OVER THE TAX CODE OR WHAT THE SUPREME COURT RULING HAS SAID.

WITHOUT TRYING TO BE GLIB, THE WORLD UNDER TAX IS USUALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD.

YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION.

[LAUGHTER] WELL THERE IS NO ANSWER.

HONESTLY, THERE IS NO SUFFICIENT ANSWER.

VERY GOOD.

LET'S COUNCIL, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, LET'S KIND OF WRAP UP OUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

WE'LL HAVE IT ON OUR AGENDA COMING UP IN MAY AS AN ACTION ITEM STAFF..

WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT AS WE BRING THAT VCA FORWARD, IF THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR ORDINANCES THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD THAT WOULD SUPPORT WHAT WE WANT TO DO

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WITH VCA, SUCH AS MANDATORY REGISTRATION ON THE PUBLICATION OF YOUR RENTAL UNIT AND OR POSSIBLY ANNUAL REGISTRATION.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THAT IN A SECOND.

IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE IF WE COULD LOOK AT THOSE ITEMS TOO..

WE'LL TRY TO GET A LIST TOGETHER FOR YOU.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET WE'D ASK FOR SOME BACKGROUND FROM [INAUDIBLE] OR THAT LITTLE SHORT TERM RENTAL GROUP THAT'S WORKING.

AND WE GOT AN OUTLINE, BUT WE DIDN'T GET SPECIFICS AS TO WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR ON THEIR SIDE OF THE LEDGER.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR SIDE OF IT IN OUR OWN PLAN.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SUBJECT AND MOVE TO OUR ANNUAL REGISTRATION, IF WE COULD, PLEASE.

OUR SECOND TOPIC IS ANNUAL REGISTRATION.

AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A TOPIC THAT WAS CHAMPIONED BY THE INDUSTRY AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER HAVE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AND ANOTHER NUMBER OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS HAVE BROUGHT THIS TOPIC FORWARD.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF AN ANNUAL REGISTRATION FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS.

AND IF THERE WAS A FEE INVOLVED WITH THAT, WITH THOSE MONEYS WOULD BE USED FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF ENFORCEMENT, COMPLIANCE, AUDITING AND HAVING THE PARK BOARD POSSIBLY WORK WITH THE COMPANY THAT COULD IDENTIFY SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT ARE NOT REGISTERING AND OR TRYING TO GET AROUND THE THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS OF THE CITY.

LET'S OPEN THIS UP TO COMMENTS ON AN ANNUAL REGISTRATION COUNCIL.

MARIE, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

ACTUALLY, AT THE END OF THE OTHER, THIS IS WHEN I HAD MY HAND UP BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THEM BOTH TOGETHER.

I MEAN, I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS.

AND I THINK THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION SHOULD BE A CONSIDERABLE SUM OF MONEY WHEN I DISCUSS ED IT IN MY DISTRICT BUT WHEN I DISCUSSED IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, I USED THE SUM OF FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR AND I HAVE TO SAY I HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE OBJECT WITH THAT.

I THINK THEY'RE INTERESTED.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SIZABLE ENOUGH SUM OF MONEY.

WE COULD SPLIT IT BETWEEN THE POLICING OR THE MARSHALING OF THE RENTAL PROPERTIES.

AND THEN YOU KNOW, NONRESTRICTIVE BEACH FUND THAT COULD BE USED FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THE NUMBER WILL BE, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER.

ALRIGHTY AND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR COUNCIL ON THIS PARTICULAR I DON'T KNOW, ANNUAL REGISTRATION IS IF COUNCIL FEELS THE CONSENSUS IS THAT WE WANT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT THIS CLOSER AND BRINGING BACK MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS TO US ON A PROGRAM.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, COUNCILMAN SCHUSTER.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH MARIE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE ANNUAL REGISTRATION.

THAT NUMBER FIVE HUNDRED SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

LOOKS LIKE THREE THOUSAND UNITS ACROSS.

LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S THREE THOUSAND.

I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING TO GENERATE ONE POINT FIVE MILLION JUST RIGHT THERE ON REGISTRATION.

SO THIS SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY LOW HANGING FRUIT TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM THE CITY [INAUDIBLE].

YOU KNOW, AND ALSO THERE IS A FORMULA OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, TO CONFIGURE THESE REGISTRATION FEES OUT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE COME UP WITH THE.

.

THE PART OF ME AS TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF WHY I'VE COME TO THIS DECISION.

AND I AGREE WITH MARIE ON THE REGISTRATION FEE AS I ASK THEM, HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK IT IS A YEAR TO REGISTER A SHORT TERM RENTAL IN GALVESTON AND THEY THROW OUT A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS THREE HUNDRED BUCKS.

THEN YOU SURPRISE THEM AND TELL THEM, WELL, IT'S A ONE TIME FIFTY DOLLAR PAYMENT AND THEIR JAW REALLY HITS THE GROUND.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW I'VE KIND OF COME TO THIS CONCLUSION ON THAT.

SO.

ALRIGHTY VERY GOOD COUNCIL.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE THIRD PORTION OF THIS DISCUSSION.

I THINK THAT ONE WILL BE A VERY QUICK ONE, DON.

WE'VE KIND OF TALKED AROUND THIS BEFORE ABOUT FUTURE ORDINANCES.

AND I THINK YOUR THOUGHT WAS WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THIS SUPREME COURT RULING IS.

IS THAT STILL YOUR FEELINGS? WELL, IN TERMS OF SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATION, YEAH, THAT'S CERTAINLY THE CASE.

I'VE GOT IT BOOKMARKED.

OF COURSE, THE SUPREME COURT TAKES ITS TIME, AND SETS THEIR OWN CALENDAR.

SO AS SOON AS THEY MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, WE WILL KNOW IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING REGARDING YOU KNOW REGISTRATION.

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AND WE CAN MOVE AHEAD WITH THOSE PRETTY QUICK AND HAVE A DRAFT FOR YOU NEXT MONTH.

SOUNDS GREAT.

WELL, I THINK THE FEELING OF COUNCIL IS I SENSE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VCAS AND THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION AND SO FORTH.

I THINK STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT A LITTLE BIT ANYWAY.

BRIAN'S ALREADY BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THAT.

SO WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE DETAILS ON THIS AT OUR MAY MEETING.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU STAFF.

MY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INPUT TOO.

MOVING TO ITEM THREE F, PLEASE JANELLE.

[3F. Discussion Of A Draft Ordinance Concerning Residential Only Parking (D. Buckley - 20 Minutes)]

3F DISCUSSION OF A DRAFT ORDINANCE CONCERNING RESIDENTIAL ONLY PARKING.

COUNCIL WE HAVE A RULE USUALLY, AND IT'S AN INFORMAL RULE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTION ITEM ON THE SAME DAY THAT WE WORKSHOP THE ITEM.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

AND THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IS ACTION.

ITEM SEVEN B ON OUR AFTERNOON AGENDA.

DEPUTY CITY MANAGER DAN BUCKLEY HAD REQUESTED THAT.

WE ALSO PUT THAT ON AN ACTION ITEM.

SO, DAN, YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT AS YOU START TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.

WHY YOU FEEL THIS IS IMPORTANT TO GET ON AS AN ACTION ITEM TODAY.

ALSO, DAVID, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT BEFORE? YES I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS.

IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE FORMALLY ADDRESSED THIS IN WORKSHOP? AND YOU'RE RIGHT, DAVID, WE HAVE IT.

I STAND CORRECTED.

NO, THIS IS STILL STAYING WITH OUR POLICY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I WAS JUST THINKING OF THE NEXT ONE.

YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE IS AN ITEM ON HERE THAT I THINK I THINK VIOLATES THAT PROTOCOL.

BUT NOT THIS ONE.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

DAN, GO RIGHT AHEAD, SIR.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT IS THE EXACT REASON WHY WE REQUESTED IT BE PUT ON FOR ACTION ALSO BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL A NUMBER OF TIMES AS WE'VE WOUND OR WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH THE ROADWAYS OF TRYING TO COME UP WITH AN ORDINANCE TO MEET THE NEEDS AND THE DESIRES AND THE WANTS OF RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THESE RESIDENTIAL PARKING AREAS.

WE'VE TRIED TO CRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE AND ONE THAT TRIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE INEQUITIES THAT HAVE EXISTED, AS WELL AS DEAL WITH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD ADMINISTERING THE PLAN IN THE PAST.

THE PLAN YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU HAS SOME SIGNIFICANT ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU.

AND THESE ARE THE THINGS I DISCUSSED LAST MONTH WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS VERY ITEM, WE TRIED TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN PERMITS AND PASSES PERMIT BEING THAT THAT IS PERMANENTLY AFFIXED TO A VEHICLE PASS, IS GOING TO BE A GUEST PASS OR A TEMPORARY VISITOR PASS.

SO WE'RE CLEARLY DEFINING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPONENTS OF THIS IS THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THESE PERMITS AND PASSES ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY WE DID THAT IN THE PAST.

WE JUST ISSUED PERMITS AND PASSES AND THERE'S REALLY BEEN NO WAY TO ADDRESS IT.

AND THE MAXIMUM FINE THAT CAN BE IMPOSED ON ANYBODY IS FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

BUT WE'VE BEEN TOLD BOTH THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, I'VE BEEN TOLD DIRECTLY, THAT PEOPLE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF JUST REPLICATING THESE PASSES AND IN UTILIZING THEM FOR THEIR OWN USER, FOR OTHERS, OTHER PEOPLE'S USE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CHEAPER TO GET FINED THAN IT WOULD BE TO PAY FOR PARKING SOMEWHERE.

TO ADDRESS THAT, WE'VE ADDED THE COMPONENT THAT IT REMAINS THE PROPERTY OF THE CITY.

SO THE CITY AT ITS DISCRETION, COULD BRING ADDITIONAL CHARGES AGAINST SOMEBODY THAT FALSIFIES A CITY DOCUMENT.

SO THAT IS A TOOL THAT DID NOT EXIST IN PRIOR ORDINANCES THAT EXIST IN THIS ONE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE AMENDED, WHICH HAS BEEN ONE OF THE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS ON THE IN THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING AREAS IS HOW TO SERVICE VEHICLES AND MOVING TRUCKS AND STUFF DEALING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING.

SO WE'VE CREATED AN EXCLUSION WITHIN THE ORDINANCE THAT IF THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'RE A MARKED SERVICE VEHICLE, THEY'RE EXEMPTED FROM THE NEED TO HAVE A PERMIT OR PASS.

THE TWO ITEMS THAT ONE ITEM IS ONE I MENTIONED TO YOU BRIEFLY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS ITEM A LITTLE WHILE AGO, THAT THE DEFINITION OF TRAILER NEEDS TO BE JUST TRAILER AND

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NOT THE TRAVEL TRAILER THAT'S IN 34-120A.

AND THEN THERE WAS THE LANGUAGE UNDER VIOLATION PENALTY UNDER THE GII WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE IT'S UNLAWFUL TO EXCHANGE, ALTER OR SELL, TRANSFER OR PURCHASE.

AND WE SAY PERMIT, IT SHOULD SAY PERMIT AND PASS.

THAT WAY WE COVER ALL BASES.

I'D BE GLAD TO TALK TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVER POSSIBLE TO CREATE A PERFECT ORDINANCE.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I THINK THIS GETS CLOSE.

AND TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS SHOULD BRING SOME ORDER TO THE USE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMITS AND PASSES.

GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DAN.

APPRECIATED COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL DAN, YOU SHOULD COME UP WITH A PERFECT ONE.

THAT'S WHY YOU GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS.

COUNCILMAN I STRIVE FOR THAT EVERY DAY.

[LAUGHTER] VERY GOOD.

YES WILLIAM.

SO PART OF MARSHALL'S ROLE ON THIS WILL BE ENFORCING SOME OF THE DUPLICATES AND ILLEGAL TRANSITION OR TRANSACTIONS THAT GO ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF I ONLY HAVE I CAN ONLY GET TWO IN MY HOUSE, BUT MY NEIGHBOR CAN GET FOUR AND THEY SELL ME THERE TWO.

WE HAVE OTHER WAYS TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? IT IS, IT'S ADDRESSED YES SIR.

OK.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? VERY GOOD.

I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THIS, THEY WORKED VERY HARD TO GET THIS TOGETHER.

THESE THINGS SOMETIMES ON THE SURFACE LOOKS LIKE IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA OF HOW WE ENFORCE RESIDENTIAL PARKING ONLY THIS BECOMES VERY COMPLEX AND VERY INVOLVED AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DAN, FOR ALL THE EFFORTS ON THAT.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

YES, MARIE.

I WOULD BE REMISS ONCE AGAIN TO MENTION IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME SYSTEM AND DISTRICTS FIXED AREAS THAT HAVE ISSUES WITH PARKING AND PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROBB, YOU MENTIONED THAT LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THAT, AND WE DO HAVE THAT IN QUEUE FOR DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT WITH OUR BEACH ACCESS PLAN.

THANK YOU, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU AGAIN, DAN.

ALL RIGHT.

[3G.Discussion Of A Draft Ordinance Concerning Golf Carts/Electric Neighborhood Vehicles (Legal - 30 Minutes)]

MOVING TO ITEM THREE, G, PLEASE, JANELLE.

THREE G DISCUSSION OF A DRAFT ORDINANCE CONCERNING GOLF CARTS AND ELECTRIC NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLES.

YOU TALK ABOUT A SUBJECT THAT BECOMES COMPLEX.

GOLF CARTS IS, I THINK, THE POSTER CHILD FOR THAT.

WE DO NOT HAVE AN ACTION ITEM ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION ONLY.

AND, DON, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU, SIR.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

WELL, THIS ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY EVIDENCE THAT CODE REVIEW IS NOT DEAD.

THIS WAS BEING DONE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND IT'S BEEN PUSHED TO TODAY BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO FINISHING IT.

AND THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE AT THE LAST MEETING REGARDING GOLF CARTS, WHICH MADE US MAKE SURE TO GET IT ON THIS AGENDA.

DAVID COLLINS HAD SENT ME AN EMAIL THAT SAID, HOW DO WE DEFINE WHAT A GOLF CART IS? AND I LOOKED INTO IT AND I FOUND A GOLF CART IS DIFFERENT FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM AN OFF-ROAD VEHICLE.

ALL OF THESE THINGS BEING GOVERNED BY THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, WHICH I MIGHT NOTE.

IT APPEARS THAT WHAT STROUD HAS MEMORIZED TO IN ITS ENTIRETY, BASICALLY WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE GOLF CART ORDINANCE REGISTRATION OF EVERY GOLF CART ON THE ISLAND.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND OUT IS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY REGISTER A GOLF CART, YOU CAN REGISTER A NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLE, NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE, AND YOU CAN DO THAT THROUGH CHERYL JOHNSON'S OFFICE.

AND I HAD BEVERLY CALL OVER THERE.

AND, YES, THEY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY RIGHT NOW IN THE TAX OFFICE.

FOR A GOLF CART, YOU BASICALLY GET A LICENSE PLATE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD

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ELECTRIC VEHICLE.

YOU GET BOTH A TITLE AND YOU GET A LICENSE PLATE, WHICH IS THE SIZE OF A REGULAR CAR LICENSE PLATE.

WE'VE INCLUDED THAT INTO THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE THIS WILL HELP US ENFORCE PARKING.

OUR PARKING SYSTEM IS GEARED TOWARD LICENSE PLATES RIGHT NOW.

IF A MARSHAL IS GOING DOWN SEAWALL BOULEVARD AND FINDS A GOLF CART PARKED .. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CHECK TO SEE IF THEY'VE PAID THE FEE BUT THEY HAVE TO GET OUT.

AND LOOK AT THE REGISTRATION STICKER ISSUED BY THE CITY.

AND THE USE OF THESE LICENSE PLATES ISSUED THROUGH THE TAX OFFICE WILL MAKE THAT MUCH MORE ENFORCEABLE FROM A PARKING POINT OF VIEW.

WE'VE ALSO RETAINED THE CITY PERMIT AND THE CITY PERMIT BASICALLY REGISTERS EACH GOLF CART WITH THE CITY.

WE HAVE.

LET ME SEE.

A LISTING OF THE STANDARD EQUIPMENT THAT HAS TO BE ON A GOLF COURSE THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE SEATBELTS, LIGHTS, ET CETERA, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, HORNS, BASICALLY EVERYTHING, YOU WOULD STAY ON A VEHICLE LIMITING THE OCCUPANCY AS A GOLF CART TO WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR.

SO I HAVE HEARD THAT YOU MIGHT SEE GOLF CARTS THAT ARE OVERLOADED BY INDIVIDUALS FAR IN EXCESS OF THE NUMBER OF SEATS.

THIS IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE NOW IN THE PRESENT CITY ORDINANCE.

THERE ARE STREETS UPON WHICH YOU MAY NOT OPERATE A GOLF CART.

THEY INCLUDE AVENUE O, AVENUE P AS OF RIGHT NOW.

AND NO STATE HIGHWAYS, 61 STREET IS A STATE HIGHWAY.

HARBORSIDE IS A STATE HIGHWAY.

3005 IS A STATE HIGHWAY.

ALTHOUGH YOU CAN CROSS THE STREET, YOU CAN CROSS OVER A STATE HIGHWAY TO GET FROM ONE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY TO ANOTHER.

YOU'RE JUST NOT SUPPOSED TO DRIVE DOWN.

BUT IN RESPONSE TO A THOUGHT I HEARD, THIS INCLUDES A BAN ON THE OPERATION OF GOLF CARTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON SEAWELL FROM BONICA DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO THE WESTERN END OF THE SEAWALL.

ALSO, THERE IS ANOTHER CATEGORY OF THESE WHEELED VEHICLES CALLED OFF ROAD VEHICLES, WHICH TELLS ME THEY'RE CAPABLE OF OPERATION OF UP TO SIXTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR.

I'VE SIMPLY PUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY CAN'T BE USED AND IT'S JUST TO START THE DISCUSSION.

SO THIS INCLUDES SOMEBODY SAW FROM LAST WEEK THAT GOLF CARTS WOULD BE BANNED ON THE SEAWALL, KNOWING THAT THIS WOULD GENERATE SOME DISCUSSION.

IT'S JUST ON TO WORKSHOP FOR DISCUSSION TODAY.

SO WITH THAT BUTCH DO YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE ? THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT YOU SAID DON IS AN INSPECTION PROCESS SO THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY ASKING BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING, HASN'T WORKED WE FIND THEM ON A DAILY BASIS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT TO [INAUDIBLE] THIS PROGRAM.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT IS ACTUALLY INSTALLED.

WE CONTACTED ALL OF THE GOLF COMPANIES ON THE ISLAND AND THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH DOING THIS THE MAXIMUM FEE THEY COULD CHARGE IS TEN DOLLARS TO INSPECT ONE THEY WOULD HAVE TO FILL OUT THE FORM THEY WOULD HAVE TO CLASSIFY [INAUDIBLE] HERE'S A GOLF COURSE.

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IT'S NOT A SIDE BY SIDE OF A OFF ROAD VEHICLE.

IT'S ACTUALLY A COP CAR OR HYBRID ELECTRIC VEHICLE IN CLASSIFICATIONS, WHICH CAN BE PERMITTED.

THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE WANTING IS IN ONE PERMIT FOR THE ENTIRE ISLAND BECAUSE IT'S JUST AS DANGEROUS ON THE WEST END AS IT IS THE EAST END FOR PEOPLE OPERATING.

THESE GOLF CARTS CURRENTLY IN THE WEST END GOLF CARTS AREN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE A LOT OF THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT, SEATBELTS BEING, THE MAIN ONE.

AND THIS WAY WE'LL HAVE EVERY GOLF CART ON THE ISLAND EQUIPPED, THE SAME PERMITTED THE SAME, AND THEY CAN TAKE OFF FROM ONE END OF THE ISLAND TO THE OTHER END OF THE ISLAND.

IF THEY WANTED TO COME DOWN TO THE DOWNTOWN FOR MORE INFO WITH THEIR GOLF CART, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PUT IT ON [INAUDIBLE] AND BE LEGAL IN DOING SO.

AND ANYBODY WHO OPERATES A GOLF CART ON A PUBLIC STREET HAS TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

EVERYTHING YOU PROPOSE TO YOU FOR DRIVING YOUR CAR TO AND FROM WORK OR COMES TO THE GOLF COURSE, NO OPEN CONTAINERS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR SEATBELTS, CHILDREN NEED TO BE IN A BOOSTER SEAT OR OPEN SEAT, IF THAT'S WHAT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, IT'S ALL ABOUT SAFETY, TRYING TO MAKE EVERYONE THAT ZONE.

RIDING ON THESE GOLF CARTS, AS SAFE AS WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE THEM SAFE.

VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

COUNCILMAN COLLINS.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

LET'S DON'T PASS ANY ORDINANCE.

WE ARE NOT CAPABLE OR WILLING TO ENFORCE THERE'S BEEN AND THIS ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO BE ISLAND WIDE, AS BUTCH POINTS OUT, THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT.

YOU HAVE TO TREAT IT LIKE AN ACTUAL MOTOR VEHICLE.

WE HAVE JUST ENORMOUS NUMBER OF INSTANCES OF 14 YEAR OLD'S DRIVING THEIR SIBLINGS TO THE BEACH, PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN THE SEAWALL WITH BEER AND SO FORTH.

I'M JUST ADAMANT THAT WE HAVE TO WANT TO ENFORCE THIS.

IF WE COULD USE THE REGISTRATION FEES TO ENHANCE THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO DO THIS, THAT'S FINE.

OTHERWISE, THEIR TRAFFIC LAWS, THE POLICE NEED TO BE INSTRUCTED TO ENFORCE THESE THINGS.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL THINGS.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

ONE IS A QUESTION AND ONE I THINK IS A COMMENT.

BECAUSE THEY ARE SLOW MOVING VEHICLES, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE SLOW MOVING TRIANGLE ON THE ON THE BACK AND THEY ARE RESTRICTED TO THE RIGHT LANE OF TRAVEL.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT MR. GLYWASKY.

YEAH, BUTCH AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY.

THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER COMMENT IN THE DRAFT TRANSPORTATION CODE THAT STRICT SEPARATION OF GOLF CARTS TO I THINK IT'S TWO MILES FROM THAT POINT OF ORIGIN.

THE CITY CODE DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT AT ALL.

AND ALSO, BUTCH CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ALSO IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE IS THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATED AT NIGHT.

THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION.

SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE OPERATING AT NIGHT AND ON THE SEAWALL AT A MINIMUM.

THEY SHOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THE RIGHT LANE.

WELL THE [INAUDIBLE] CODE DOES NOT ADDRESS WHAT LANE YOU CAN OPERATE IN.

THEY ARE [INAUDIBLE] A VEHICLE.

ONE WOULD THINK THEY SHOULD BE ON THE RIGHT LANE BECAUSE THE LEFT LANE, AS A MATTER OF RULE OF THUMB FOR MOTORING PUBLIC IS THE LEFT LANE IS FOR PASSING LEFT LANE FOR SLOW MOVING VEHICLES.

IT'S NOT ADDRESSED IN [INAUDIBLE] CODE AND NOT ADDRESSED IN OUR O RDINANCE EITHER.

EVEN FOR SLOW MOVING VEHICLES A GOLF CART OR NOT ADDRESSED IN THE CODE.

NO WE JUST REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A SLOW MOVING VEHICLE TRIANGLE TO THE REAR.

IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT LANE THEY MUST DRIVE IN.

NOT SPECIFICALLY AS TO THESE, BUT IN GENERAL.

YOU MAY BE RIGHT DON THE ORDINANCE? YES, I'M NOT SURE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT BANNING THEM ON THE SEAWALL ALTOGETHER, BUT I AM SURE WE NEED TO RESTRICT THEM TO THE RIGHT LANE AND THEN ENFORCE THE TRAFFIC CODE ON THESE ON THEM, REALLY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU'RE QUALIFYING, IT AS ELECTRIC NEIGHBORHOOD

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VEHICLES OR GOLF CARTS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE MAYOR.

THANK YOU DAVID, AND MARIE? I HAVE GOT A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, BUT I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH THE ONE WHERE GOLF CARTS ARE CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED ON 61 STREET.

AND THEN TO MY SURPRISE, I HAD NEVER NOTICED BEFORE.

ONE DAY TRAVELING INTO TOWN, WE HAVE ALLOWED A GOLF CART RENTAL SHOP TO BE PLACED ON 61 STREET.

THAT SEEMS EXTREMELY CONTRARY TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO I WAS CURIOUS HOW THAT CAME TO BE.

I CAN ANSWER THAT [INAUDIBLE] ALLOWED IN THAT AREA, YOU CAN GAIN ACCESS TO THAT BUSINESS WITHOUT GETTING ON 61ST STREET BY USING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS GETTING THROUGH IT.

SO IF YOU RENT ONE FROM THERE, YOU CAN LEAVE THE PARKING LOT AND STAY ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND NOT HAVE TO ACCESS 61ST STREET [INAUDIBLE] ANY WHICH WAY IN MY VIEW, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A SHOP THAT IS RENTING GOLF CARTS ON THE STREET THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE THEM ON.

SO IN THE STATE LAW AND I'M GOING BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT DON TO DAVID'S QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DEFINES A GOLF CART, BECAUSE THERE ARE DEFINITIONS TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WHICH YOU WERE JUST REFERENCING, THAT ARE ALLOWED TO DRIVE ON A ROAD THAT IS THIRTY FIVE MILES OR LESS THAT ARE WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE GOLF CART.

SO YOU'RE LITERALLY TAKING YOUR GOLF CART TO THE COUNTRY CLUB OR TO SOMETHING, AND THIS WOULD APPLY MORE TO THE WEST END THEN THE EAST END.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING OUR REGULATIONS STRICTER THAN THE STATE REGULATIONS? WELL, YES, BECAUSE STATE REGULATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A LICENSE PLATE OR INSPECTIONS.

OK, BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN A NUMBER OF COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS BECAUSE MOST OF YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT ARE JUST USED FOR A SHORT DISTANCE AREN'T TYPICALLY.

THEY DO NOT HAVE SEAT BELTS.

THEY DO NOT HAVE THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR A STREET READY VEHICLE BECAUSE THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT SLATED AS STREET READY VEHICLES.

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I'M JUST HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS, BECAUSE THESE ARE A NUMBER OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ARE ELECTRIC GOLF CART ACTUALLY IS STREET READY AND HAS SEAT BELTS AND SO FORTH.

AND THE SEATBELT THING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO YOUNG CHILDREN, I THINK IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SMALL KIDS ALONG THE BACK AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN TOWN AS WELL AS I'VE SEEN IT IN DISTRICT SIX THAT ARE ABOUT TO FALL ASLEEP AS THE PARENTS MOVE FORWARD AND THOSE KIDS COULD EASILY FALL OFF THE GOLF CART.

I KNOW PEOPLE TEND TO SAY.

AND I HAD THE POLICE CHIEF MAYBE BUTCH COULD SPEAK TO THIS THAT ONE, WE HAVEN'T EVER HAD ANY GOLF CART INCIDENTS, AND THAT SIMPLY ISN'T TRUE.

SO COULD SOMEONE SPEAK TO THAT? AND I THINK THE CITY IS CURRENTLY BEING SUED BY SOMEONE WHO RENTED A GOLF CART.

WELL, FOR USING THE PHRASE AS WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE.

PROBABLY NOT THE APPROACH I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU TO ONE THING ABOUT THESE THESE RULES AND PASSING ORDINANCE PREVENTS ANYTHING FROM HAPPENING EVEN ONCE THEN I FEEL WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT GOAL.

IT'S LIKE DRIVING A CAR.

WE CAN PUT AS MUCH SAFETY AS YOU WANT THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE ACCIDENTS.

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE SAFETY RULES IN PLACE.

YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO TRY TO PREVENT INJURIES OR ACCIDENTS [INAUDIBLE].

AND WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF INCIDENTS HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE PULLED THE STATS ON THAT.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL, MYSELF HAVE EXPERIENCED IT, ESPECIALLY WITH GOLF CARTS ON THE BEACH THAT AREN'T HANDICAP GOLF CARTS.

AND JUST LAST WEEK I CALLED THE POLICE AND THE POLICE CAME OUT AND SAID, WE AREN'T WRITING.

IT'S IT'S NOT TYPICAL THAT THEY WRITE THEM A TICKET, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR FINE.

SO YOU CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER IF PEOPLE THINK, WELL, I MIGHT AS WELL DO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WRITE FINES ANYWAY.

AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN TOLD BY PEOPLE IN TOWN WHO HAVE BEEN STOPPED BY THE MARSHAL AND THEY'LL SAY, WELL, YEAH, THEY JUST GAVE ME A WARNING.

WHEN DO WE GO FROM WARNINGS TO ACTUALLY WRITING TICKETS? I CAN'T ADDRESS WHAT POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE GIVES VERY, VERY FEW WARNINGS.

AND WE ISSUED A CITATION FOR THE VIOLATIONS WE SEE.

I'M SORRY, COULD YOU RESTATE THAT.

WE ISSUED CITATIONS FOR VIOLATIONS WE SEE RARELY IS THERE A WARNING FOR A GOLF CART VIOLATION DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES WE HAVE.

BUT AS A GENERAL RULE, WE DON'T.

POLICE'S POINT OF VIEW I CAN TELL YOU TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS 90 PERCENT OF THESE ARE TOURIST AND DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THE RULES OF REC ORDINANCE.

SO WE WILL EDUCATE THEM THE FIRST TIME IF THAT SAME PERSON IS STOPPED AGAIN.

AND TYPICALLY THAT'S WHEN A TICKET IS GIVEN, JUST LIKE WITH ANY OTHER WARNING.

YOU KNOW, THE CITY MARSHALS ARE WRITING CITATIONS.

I GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THAT.

I WISH THEY HAD HAD A WARNING AND NOT A LOT OF TICKETS.

SO VERY GOOD.

COUNCIL, COUNCILMEN SCHUSTER GO RIGHT AHEAD.

THANKS, LOOKING OVER THE ORDINANCE.

IT'S KIND OF A DRAFT AS PRESENTED TO US TODAY.

IT WAS JUST SOME SMALL DETAILS I HAVE WITH IT, JUST LIKE THE AGE THAT WE ALLOW DRIVERS TECHNICALLY, LIKE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, A SIXTEEN YEAR OLD KID COULD DRIVE A GOLF CART IF THEY HAVE A LICENSE IS CORRECT.

THAT IS, IF THEY HAVE A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE TO OPERATE A VEHICLE ON THE CITY STREETS THEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DRIVE THE GOLF CART.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST KNOWING, YOU KNOW, SEEING A BUNCH OF STUDENT DRIVERS EVERY DAY, I KNOW THAT MOST TEENAGERS AT THAT AGE HAVE A PROVISIONAL LICENSE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO DRIVE WITH A PASSENGER IN THEIR VEHICLE, BUT YET WE SAY IT'S OK TO DO THAT IN A GOLF CART WITH SIX PEOPLE HANGING OUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE AGE THERE.

I THINK THAT WILLIAM I BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE STOPPED AND HAVE A PROVISIONAL LICENSE.

BUTCH CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANYBODY RIDING WITH THEM, THAT WOULD APPLY ON THE GOLF CART AS WELL, WOULDN'T IT? ABSOLUTELY THE SAME RULES APPLY IN THE GOLF CART THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE VEHICLE AND TO THE DRIVING SCHOOL.

OK, GOTCHA.

ALL RIGHT.

AND AS FAR AS INSPECTION GOES, I'VE GOT TO YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDE TO AGREE ON THIS, I'VE GOT TO TAKE MY GOLF CART TO GET IT INSPECTED WHERE WHERE WOULD THIS LOCATION BE SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW.

WE HAVE SEVEN LOCATIONS ON THE ISLAND THERE'S THREE OUT WEST THERE'S THREE IN TOWN.

AND I BELIEVE ONE IN TIKI ISLAND WHICH IS A SISTER COMPANY TO ONE IN TOWN, ONE OF OUR VENDERS IS ACTUALLY A MOBILE VENDER HE'LL COME TO YOUR HOUSE IF YOU NEED TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] THEY'LL ACTUALLY COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND DO REPAIRS AND DO INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING.

GOTCHA.

AND SO NOW I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE MY GOLF CAR.

I'VE GOT TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY TO GET MY WHATEVER COLOR STICKER.

BUT THEN I'VE ALSO GOT TO GO TO THE COUNTY NOW TO GET MY LICENSE PLATE.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YUP.

OK, SO I KNOW THERE'S A I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GET HELP.

YOU KNOW [INAUDIBLE] WANT TO GIVE IT TO SOME CITIES.

THEY DO CHARGE A LITTLE MORE WHATEVER FOR THAT PLATE WHERE IT COULD BE CUSTOM AND ALL THAT STUFF ON IT.

JUST SAW THAT OUT THERE.

NOW GOING FOR ME.

I SEE IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THIS GOLF CART DISCUSSION CAME UP, IT'S REALLY CIRCLED AROUND THE SEAWALL.

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AND THEN YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION REALLY WHEN YOU SEE SEAWALL [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE THINKING TOURISM, YOU'RE THINKING RENTAL CARS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CITIES CAN DO TO CREATE A RENTAL CAR CLASSIFICATION TO WHERE WE CAN PUT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE ORDINANCES OR SAFETY REGULATIONS OR TO ENSURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS GETTING OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT RENT THESE THINGS IS WHAT I HEAR.

GOLF CART RENTAL.

THE FIRST THING THAT POPS IN MY HEAD IS TOURISM AND THEN PEOPLE RIDING ON THE SEAWALL.

SO THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

AS FAR AS THE RENTAL CARTS GO, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD CREATE YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A GREEN STICKER, BUT A RENTAL CART THAT'S USED FOR COMMERCIAL, OBVIOUSLY A LOT DIFFERENT THAN OURS ARE OR FOR ANYBODY THAT OWNS ONE.

CAN THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR STICKER AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A DIFFERENT FEE OR JUST TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THEM A LITTLE BETTER, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS A CITY.

TYPICALLY SEE.

NO NOT SO MUCH [INAUDIBLE] FOR A RENTAL CART VERSUS A PRIVATELY OWNED CART? THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RENTAL CAR AND A PROPERTY OWNED REGISTERED CART.

AND I MEAN, THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION.

OK, THE REASON I ASK, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE COME UP WITH IDEAS LIKE MINIMUM WAGE, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT'S A RENTAL CAR IS TWENTY FIVE, THEY I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE THROW OUT THAT AGE, ALSO BEING ABLE TO GET MAPS OUT, SAFETY INFORMATION.

YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT'S HAPPENING BY CREATING THIS CLASSIFICATION AND THEN TALK ABOUT MAYBE FEES TO PAY FOR THIS ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'RE ALL WANTING.

COUNCIL MEMBER MY SUGGESTION HAS BEEN ALL ALONG ON THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE FACED WITH PROBLEMS, YOU CAN DO ONE OR TWO THINGS.

YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM OR YOU CAN MANAGE THE PROBLEM.

AND I THINK IN MANAGING THE PROBLEM, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, THE RIGHT THING TO DO HERE, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SEPARATE FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL GOLF CARTS VERSUS RENTAL GOLF CARTS.

AND THE REASON IS, IS THAT THE WHOLE IN MY MIND, WE DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THE TAXPAYERS WITH AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO ENFORCE SOMETHING THAT NINETY NINE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT WITH, LIKE GOLF CARTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF WE'RE STARTUP, IF WE USE THIS MONEY TO PAY FOR ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE YOU DO FROM THESE FEES COLLECTED, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND LESS TIME ON RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE EVEN IF A RESIDENT GETS STOPPED, HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET HE OR SHE IS GOING TO GET STOPPED ONCE AND THEY'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT FIXED.

WHEREAS EVERY DAY THE ENFORCEMENT GROUP IS GOING TO BE DEALING WITH A WHOLE NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE ON RENTAL GOLF CARTS.

AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH EDUCATION YOU DO AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THERE IS GOING TO BE THAT DYNAMIC THAT GOES ON SO.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASSESS A FEE, I BELIEVE THE FEE SHOULD BE GREATER FOR THE RENTAL CARTS THAN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL CARTS.

AND I DO BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENTIAL THERE.

NOW CAN PART OF THE FEE COVER INFORMATION ON THE STREETS AS FAR AS SIGNAGE.

SURE.

YOU KNOW, STREET MARKINGS.

JUST BE CAREFUL.

WE DON'T WANT TO REMEMBER OUR STREETS ARE SHARED BY WHOLE TYPE DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES.

AND THE MORE SIGNS YOU PUT UP, IT'S PROVEN AND ROBB CAN TELL YOU THIS, THAT YOU START GETTING SIGN CONFUSION WHEN YOU HAVE TOO MANY SIGNS SAYING TOO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THEN WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE SEAWALL, YOU START TALKING ABOUT URBAN BLIGHT AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH TOO MANY SIGNS.

SO, YES, WE CAN USE IT FOR SIGNS.

BUT I THINK AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN AND ACTUALLY MAYBE REQUIRING THE RULES ACTUALLY BE AFFIXED TO THE CART MIGHT BE A BETTER SOLUTION THAN EVEN GIVING THEM MAPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YES.

BUT YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, SURE.

THE MONEY CAN BE USED FOR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

IT'S JUST IN THE GOAL IS TO USE IS TO EQUATE THE DOLLARS TO WHERE IT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR THE COST OF THE ENFORCEMENT AND WHATNOT.

SO YOUR LOCAL TAXPAYERS DON'T HAVE TO BEAR THAT BURDEN.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT EDUCATION PART.

I THINK RENTAL COMPANY TOURIST AND ALSO THE RESIDENTS COULD PROBABLY ALL USE A REFRESHER ON IT SOMEHOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DO SEE IT'S NOT JUST THESE RENTAL CARTS, BUT I DO SEE IT ABUSE BOTH WAYS.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD.

NOW, ALSO, IF WE DO DECIDE, LIKE KEEPING THESE THINGS ON THE SEAWALL OR WHATNOT, I THINK ALSO MAYBE WE WON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THE STREET.

THEY'RE ALLOWED TO, IF 61ST STREET.

IS THE END STREET FOR A TURNAROUND.

WE'RE ENCOURAGING THEIR U-TURN AND THEN TURNING INTO THE GAS STATION, COME BACK OUT AND TURN LEFT.

AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THERE.

SO YOU SAY FIFTY NINE OR FIFTY SEVEN.

OR IF YOU SAID FIFTY SEVEN TO SEVEN.

THAT ACTUALLY ALMOST COMES OUT TO BE AN EVEN FOUR MILES OF THE GOLF CART HIGHWAY, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY SO.

YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T REALLY NECESSARILY ENCOURAGE THE U-TURN OR MAKING THE LEFT HAND TURN TO COME BACK DOWN AT EXXON.

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THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT ON IT.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU, WILLIAM.

WE HAVE JOHN.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

YEAH, I'LL KIND OF START OFF BY PICKING UP ON SOME OF WILLIAM'S COMMENTS, RENTAL VERSUS OWNERSHIP OF THESE GOLF CARTS.

I MEAN, I THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE SOMETHING MORE OF THAT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO US.

YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO SEVERAL RENTAL COMPANIES ON THE ISSUE AND THEY ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT, OF COURSE, OF TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, ENCOURAGING MORE RULES AND REGULATIONS OUT THERE.

THEY DON'T SEEM TO MIND ADDITIONAL FEES FOR THE RENTAL SIDE OF THE BUSINESS.

AND SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS KIND OF BROKEN UP INTO THE RENTALS VERSUS PRIVATE CITIZENS THAT OWN THEIR GOLF CARTS, THAT USE THEM AROUND TOWN.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT OR SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT THE ACTUAL GOLF CART COMPANIES ARE MAKING IS SIGNAGE IN THEIR SHOPS ON THE CART, MORE EDUCATION FOR THEIR RIDERS.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT IN THIS ORDINANCE WHEN IT DOES COME BACK TO US AND TO PUT MORE OF THIS BURDEN.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MAIN REASON WHY THIS IS BEING BROUGHT UP TO US IS BECAUSE OF THE RENTAL COMPANIES AND WE'RE SEEING MORE GOLF CARTS ON THE SEAWALL BECAUSE OF THE RENTAL COMPANIES.

SO I THINK WE CAN TAILOR OUR ORDINANCE MORE IN THAT DIRECTION AND LESSEN THAT BURDEN, BURDEN ON OUR CITIZENS THAT ACTUALLY USE CARTS TO GET AROUND TOWN.

THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE REGISTRATION THROUGH THE STATE OR THE COUNTY, SO WE ARE IN THE ORDINANCE.

WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO REGISTER.

AND AND NORMALLY WITH A CAR REGISTRATION, YOU GO GET IT INSPECTED.

AND THEN ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR CAR INSPECTED, YOU CAN GO GET YOUR LICENSE.

BUT WITH A CART THAT'S NOT REQUIRED ON A STATE LEVEL.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OK.

AND THEN ON YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE BRING UP WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, GOLF CARTS, ABOUT THESE OFF-ROAD VEHICLES SIDE BY SIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND PERMITTING THEM TO DRIVE ON THE STREET AS WELL.

IN THIS ORDINANCE.

OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO AND WE HAVE REASONS WHY WE WANT TO KEEP THAT THE WAY IT IS WHERE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED? THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT IT IN HAS NOT ALLOWED WAS TO START THE DISCUSSION AFTER BUTCH TOLD ME THESE THINGS CAN GO 65 MILES AN HOUR.

I MEAN, REALLY, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN A GOLF CART THAT CAN GO UP TO 25.

I PERSONALLY AM NOT SURE HOW TO HANDLE IT, BUTCH CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

OFF-ROAD VEHICLES ALSO APPLIES TO THREE WHEELERS AND UTILITY USE.

UTILITY THINGS ON THE RANCH, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IN TODAYS WORLD OF MANUFACTURERS HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM WHAT WE FROM OLDEN DAYS WAS UTILITY VEHICLE [INAUDIBLE] OR YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR FARM, YOUR HOUSE, AND IT GOES SLOW SPEEDS [INAUDIBLE] WHERE YOU CAN GET THESE THINGS THAT LIKE I SAID DRIVE 60 MILES AN HOUR [INAUDIBLE] ANYTHING ELSE.

THESE THINGS ARE VERY FAST.

THEY'RE SMALL, AND THEY WOULD BE WOULD BE DANGEROUS TO BE INCORPORATED ON THE ROAD WITH A FULL SIZED CAR.

MY IN-LAWS HAD WHEN IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A FULL LENGTH MOTORCYCLE THAT THEY WOULD DO RANCH WORK ON THEIR PROPERTY WITH.

BUT IT COULD GO PRETTY FAST.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE REAL QUESTION WOULD BE WANTING TO SEE THESE THINGS ON THE STREET.

YEAH.

AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE DANGERS WITH THE GOLF CART IS THE SLOW SPEED OF THE GOLF CART.

YOU KNOW, IT GOES BOTH WAYS HERE WHERE SOME OF THESE SIDE BY SIDE KEEP UP WITH CARS THEY HAVE MUCH MORE SAFETY FEATURES THAN A GOLF CART.

THEY HAVE SIX POINT, SEATBELT HARNESSES AND ROLL CAGES AND AND THINGS LIKE

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THAT, WHERE I'D ALMOST RATHER SEE A SIDE BY SIDE THAT HAS SOME OF THESE SAFETY FEATURES IN IT.

THEN THIS GOLF CART THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT'S NOT REALLY MADE TO HAVE SEATBELTS.

IT HAS SEATBELTS.

YOU CAN PUT SEATBELTS IN IT.

BUT ARE THEY REALLY THAT SAFE? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALMOST GETTING A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY BY USING SOME OF THESE SEATBELTS IN THESE GOLF CARTS THAT ARE NOT ATTACHED TO VERY STRONG STRUCTURES IN THE FIRST PLACE IN THE GOLF CART.

AND SO I BRING THAT UP.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY FOCUS ON HERE IN THIS ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE MORE TIME.

AND YOU SAY A SIDE BY SIDE IS NOW LIKE A SLINGSHOT? [INAUDIBLE] SO A SLINGSHOT IS LEGALLY DRIVEN ON THE ROAD SIDE BY SIDE, LIKE A RAZOR, OR SOME OF THESE OFF-ROAD VEHICLES THAT ARE CAPABLE OF SPEEDS, THEY HAVE ROLL CAGES, THEY HAVE SERIOUS SEATBELT AND SAFETY HARNESSES IN THEM.

AND THEY'RE ALLOWED.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TEXAS, BUT I KNOW IN OTHER OTHER STATES LIKE UTAH AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE THEY HAVE THESE NATIONAL PARKS, WHERE THEY HAVE THESE KIND OF OFF ROADING VEHICLES, THEY ARE ALLOWED ON ACTUALLY STATE HIGHWAYS.

AND SO AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT IN TEXAS WHAT OUR LAWS ARE ON THESE VEHICLES, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THE I'D ALMOST RATHER SEE THEM RENTING VEHICLES LIKE THAT THAN SOME OF THESE GOLF CARTS WHERE IF A CAR HITS A GOLF CART, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE TRAGIC.

AND WHERE THESE OFF ROAD VEHICLES, AGAIN, HAVE REAL GAUGES, SAFETY FEATURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'RE MADE TO TAKE MORE PUNISHMENT IN THESE OFF-ROAD ENVIRONMENTS THAN THAN A GOLF CART IS.

SO I BRING THAT UP ON SOMETHING YOU DISCUSS MAYBE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT I HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF CONSTITUENTS BRING THAT UP THAT THEY WOULD RATHER BE RIDING AROUND IN ONE OF THOSE THAN A GOLF CART.

ONE OTHER THING OR A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS HERE.

SO, AGAIN, THE ORDINANCE THAT IS AS PRESENTED TO US BANS GOLF CARTS ON THE SEAWALL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

OK.

AGAIN, I AM OF THE MINDSET THAT I WOULD FAVOR HAVING GOLF CARTS REMAIN ON THE SEAWALL, BUT PLACE REGULATIONS IN THERE TO MAKE THEM SAFER, MAKE PEOPLE MORE EDUCATED ABOUT THEM, AND REALLY PUT SOME REGULATIONS ON THESE ON THESE RENTAL COMPANIES THAT ARE REALLY PRODUCING THE VAST MAJORITY OF GOLF CARTS THAT WERE SEEING ON THE SEAWALL.

I MEAN, I KNOW I HAVE CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT.

I HAVE A LOT OF SEAWALL FRONTAGE IN MY DISTRICT AND A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE.

GOLF CARTS, THEY USE THEM THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, THEY USE THEM ON THE SEAWALL AND THEY DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT TO SEE THEM SEE THAT PRIVALAGE GO AWAY.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT TAKEN OUT OF OUR ORDINANCE WHEN IT GETS BROUGHT TO US.

IF I COULD INTERJECT, I DON'T WANT TO POP ANYBODY'S BALLOON, BUT I SEEM TO DO THAT SEAWALL WEST OF 61ST FIRST STREET IS A STATE HIGHWAY.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S ALREADY UNLAWFUL TO OPERATE THEM ON THERE ANYWAY.

AND STRANGELY ENOUGH, THE SEAWALL FROM I THINK IT'S UNIVERSITY DRIVE TO SIXTH STREET IS ALSO A STATE HIGHWAY.

SO YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE PORTION OF THE SEAWALL ON THE EAST WHERE YOU CAN'T USE THEM.

AND WHEN I SAY MINIMAL SEAWALL CONTINUING TO PERMIT THEM WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED.

SURE.

OK, YOU KNOW [INAUDIBLE] OF COURSE, THERE'S A STRETCH OF [INAUDIBLE] ROAD THAT IS A STATE HIGHWAY.

AND SO JUST THAT PORTION OF THE STATE HIGHWAY IS WHERE THEY WOULD THEY ARE CURRENTLY NOT PERMITTED AND THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO BE NOT PERMITTED.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STATE HIGHWAYS, IT IS THAT I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT IS A STATE LAW, THAT THESE GOLF CARTS CANNOT BE PERMITTED ON ANY STATE HIGHWAY.

AND THERE'S REALLY NO WAY AROUND THAT.

IS THAT RIGHT? [INAUDIBLE] OK.

THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE WE LOSE SOME CONNECTED CONNECTIVITY, OF COURSE, WITHIN TOWN BECAUSE OF SOME OF THESE STATE HIGHWAYS.

AND IF THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT, THEN THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU POP BY AUSTIN TO TAKE THIS OVER? YEAH, EXACTLY.

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WHAT ELSE DID I HAVE? I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME HANDS UP COUNCIL.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER FIRST HAS A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN IF THEY WANT TO.

COUNCILMAN QUIROGA DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ON THIS SUBJECT? YES, I DO.

I WOULD BE VERY SURE WE'RE THROWING OUT ALL THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO IS TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT IT AFFECTS THEIR PAYING TENS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THESE VEHICLES TO BE USED OUT THERE TO RENT FOR TOURISM.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS REGULATION, THAT REGULATION.

LET'S GO TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS, HAVE SOME KIND OF COMMITTEE AND MEET WITH STAFF AND WORK THIS THING OUT.

PRETTY SURE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, FOR EVERY PROBLEM WE HAVE, THERE IS A RESOLUTION TO IT.

SO MY OPINION IS LET'S GO TO THE VENDORS THEMSELVES AND LET THEM SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS. WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO SUGGEST THAT WOULD CUT DOWN ON IF WE HAVE ACCESS TO MORE OR LESS, LET THEM BUILD A SAFETY PLAN FOR THEIR OWN VEHICLES? I DON'T LIKE THAT WE'RE IMPOSING MORE TAXES OR FEES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

I DON'T LIKE TAXES.

I DON'T LIKE FEES.

BUT WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO GO TO THE PROFESSIONALS AND ASK THEM WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO CONTROL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE SEAWALL OR ANY STREETS IN GALVESTON.

OK, THANK YOU BILL, AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS.

DON, IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO BRING BACK AFTER OUR DISCUSSION TODAY A ORDINANCE FOR US TO TAKE ACTION ON IN MAY? I THINK THAT'S AMBITIOUS WE REALLY HAVE TO DRILL DOWN ON THIS OFF-ROAD HIGHWAY THING THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A SIDE BY SIDE.

LIKE JOHN MENTIONED, IT'S WE REALLY NEED TO DRILL DOWN ON.

OK, VERY GOOD.

SO IT'LL PROBABLY NOT BE ON OUR MAY AGENDA, POSSIBLY BEYOND THAT THEN.

OK, SECOND OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE RENTAL OWNERS OUT THERE, CITIZENS AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS A COMMITTEE THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THIS, TOO, TO GIVE INPUT TO THE CITY.

GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT INPUT.

I'VE HAD SOME VERY EDUCATIONAL TALKS WITH A LOT OF THESE RENTAL OWNERS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM GETTING WITH US AND GIVING THEIR INPUT ON THIS COUNCIL.

WE NEED TO WRAP THIS SUBJECT UP.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD DAVID COLLINS FIRST AND THEN, MARIE, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS, GO RIGHT AHEAD, DAVID.

YEAH, I JUST I'M GLAD JOHN BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE WE'D BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE LIMITATIONS AND MOVING TO THE RIGHT LANE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OPERATING SO REGISTRATION AND ALL THAT.

BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM HERE, WHICH WAS THE FULL BAN ON ON THE SEAWALL.

I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUSH INTO THIS BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CHIT CHAT TO BE DONE.

BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THE STAFF BUTCH, THE CHIEF THEY DID NEED TO ADVISE US ON.

I DON'T THINK EITHER THE RENTAL OWNERS OR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ARE EXPERTS.

AND IN GOLF CART SAFETY AND REGULATION, I UNDERSTAND IT FROM THEIR BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW.

THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY REGULATION INVOLVED ESSENTIALLY THINKING THAT WE CAN HANDLE IT ALL WITH ENFORCEMENT.

BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUSH INTO THIS BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE TO DISCUSS HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

MARIE LET'S HAVE YOUR COMMENT, OUR LAST COMMENT, PLEASE.

NOW, I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT DAVID JUST SAID NUT I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION BECAUSE THERE WAS OTHER OTHER MOTORIZED VEHICLES.

WHAT IN THE REGULATION THAT IS CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF US, WHAT IS THE OTHER? IS THAT SCOOTERS IS THAT.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

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WELL YOU AND DAVID MENTIONED ABOUT THIS COVERS GOLF CART ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND OTHER MOTORIZED VEHICLES.

I GUESS THAT WOULD MAINLY OFF ROAD VEHICLES, WHICH ARE BANNED.

OK, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO CLASSIFY SCOOTERS? WELL, WE'RE.

WELL, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE.

[INAUDIBLE].

YES, I'M ON THE HIT PARADE TODAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WILLIAM YOU HAVE SOMETHING REAL QUICK.

YEAH, JUST MY CLOSING STATEMENTS ON WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE.

I THINK IT'S A IT'S A MOMENT FOR COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

WE'RE EITHER GOING TO MAKE THE SEAWALL OR A MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY OR WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT MORE VEHICULAR FRIENDLY.

SO REALLY, WITH THIS DECISION, WHAT DIRECTION DO WE WANT TO HIT ON? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY RAISE THE SPEED LIMIT TO 40, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF THEM ALL.

IS THAT A DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN MAKING OUR SEAWALL MORE VEHICULAR FRIENDLY OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE'RE APPLYING FOR LOOKS LIKE A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT TO MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ON THE SEAWALL? SO I THINK THIS IS A DIRECTION THAT WE CAN STEER AS COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST TRAVEL PEDESTRIAN STREET IN THE STATE OF TEXAS MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, DON.

THANK YOU, STAFF.

ALL RIGHT.

[3H.Discussion Of Amendments To The Bicycle Ordinance (Legal - 15 Minutes)]

LET'S MOVE TO ITEM THREE H IF WE COULD, PLEASE JANELLE.

THREE H DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENTS TO THE BICYCLE ORDINANCE.

LET ME MENTION ON THIS ORDINANCE COUNCIL, IT WAS VYING FOR THE MOST EMAILS THAT COUNCIL HAS EVER RECEIVED.

ON ONE PARTICULAR ITEM, I WOULD SAY TO THOSE THAT SENT EMAILS, YOU DIDN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE FERAL CAT [INAUDIBLE].

SO WE HAD ABOUT TEN TIMES MORE FROM THE FERAL CAT ITEM ON THIS SO SAYING ALL THAT, DON LET'S INTRODUCE THIS, IF YOU COULD.

IT'S ITEM SEVEN A IS AN ACTION ITEM.

THIS IS THE ITEM THAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION, DON.

WHEN YOU MENTION THIS, COULD YOU MENTION WHY YOU HAD REQUESTED TO HAVE THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM ALSO.

DURING A SESSION LAST MONTH, I THOUGHT I HEARD SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT HOW BUSY THE SEA WALL HAD GOTTEN AND THE USE OF, YOU KNOW, MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON THE SIDEWALK WAS WAS CREATING A HAZARD.

THIS IS PUT ON FOR ACTION PURELY AT THE OPTION OF COUNCIL, ONLY BECAUSE THERE ARE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED REGARDING THE USE OF VEHICLES THAT HAVE A TYPE OF MOTOR ON THEM ON THE SEAWALL.

YOU KNOW, I WAS DRIVING BY MY CAR DOWN TO SEAWORLD LAST WEEK AND A COUPLE OF KIDS ON AN ELECTRIC SCOOTER ARE DRIVING ON THE SEAWALL AT NIGHT ON THE SIDEWALK KEPT PACE WITH ME AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS GO PRETTY FAST.

SO IT BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A SAFETY ISSUE, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO ACT ON IT TODAY IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S ON FOR ACTION.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT YOU DO IT.

IT'S YOUR CHOICE.

DON, DID YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS BEFORE WE START THE DISCUSSION HERE ON THIS? THIS AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF CODE REVIEW.

I WAS WORKING ON IT, AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER EFFORTS IN WRITING THESE FAIRLY COMPLICATED MATTERS LIKE GOLF CARTS BICYCLE'S.

SHE HAD A HAND IN THE WRECKER ORDINANCE.

[INAUDIBLE] HAD ONE TREVER HAD ONE THAT'S HOW LONG THAT ONE WENT.

THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THESE AND I WANT TO HAVE THAT ACKNOWLEDGED.

BASICALLY, THIS ORDINANCE HAS A LOT OF SAFETY FEATURES IN IT, PUTTING ITEMS IN THAT HAVE TO BE INCLUDED FOR THE RENTAL OF BICYCLE'S, WHICH HAS GOTTEN QUITE POPULAR.

STANDARDS BREAK STANDARDS FOR [INAUDIBLE] PROHIBITIONS TO PREVENT IF YOU'RE DRUNK, YOU CAN'T BE GRANTED A CYCLE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT I THINK THAT THE BIG REACTION IS THE BAN ON THE OPERATION ON THE SEAWALL SIDEWALKS, NORTH SIDE OR SOUTH SIDE OF ANY TYPE OF DEVICE THAT HAS A MOTOR ATTACHED TO IT.

THE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT ARE SEGWAYS WHICH BY STATE LAW ARE

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SPECIFICALLY PERMITTED TO OPERATE ON SIDEWALKS AND ELECTRIC WHEELCHAIR SCOOTERS USED BY SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT HAVE A DISABILITY.

OF COURSE, WE NEED TO LET THEM OPERATE ON THE SIDEWALKS.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE INTRODUCTION.

I PASS THE DISCUSSION BACK TO YOU.

THANK YOU, DON.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

WE'LL START.

AND MARIE HAD OUR HAND UP FIRST, MARIE.

WELL, I JUST I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE E-BIKES AS I LOOK AT THEM, AND IT WAS FUNNY WHEN I WAS DRIVING INTO TOWN EARLY YESTERDAY, I SAW MULTIPLE SENIORS DRIVING THEIR E-BIKES AND I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SO BAD.

AND THEN WHEN I STARTED DOING RESEARCH IN THE ITEM I SAW THERE'S THREE CLASSIFICATIONS OF E-BIKES, THEN I MEAN, THERE WAS SO MUCH INFORMATION ON THEM.

SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO LOOK AT AND WE SHOULD NOT VOTE ON TODAY.

BUT SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOTOR VEHICLES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT E-BIKES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCOOTERS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOTORIZED SKATEBOARDS.

DON.

I HAVE SEEN KIDS AND NOT JUST KIDS RIDING SKATEBOARDS WITH LITTLE GAS MOTORS ON THEM.

AND, YEAH, THEY FLY.

IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

I WOULDN'T DO IT NO.

I WOULDN'T DO IT EITHER.

SO WE'RE VERY MUCH ALIKE THAT WAY.

BUT ANYWAY, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT IN THE LONG RUN AND AGAIN WHEN IT COMES TO E-BIKES IS MAYBE LOOKING AT SOME SORT OF SPEED LIMIT, BECAUSE I KNOW, AS ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN, THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO MANY EMAILS, AND ESPECIALLY FROM SENIOR PEOPLE WHO'VE HAD HIP REPLACEMENTS AND WHATNOT, AND THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN BICYCLE IS WITH AN E-BIKE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A BIKE LANE ON THE SEAWALL.

SO IT WOULD, I GUESS, PROHIBIT THEM.

AND IF WE'RE TALKING TO SEAWALL THEN ARE WE TALKING THE BEACH AS WELL? BECAUSE YOU CAN RIDE A BIKE ON THE BEACH I THINK THERE ARE STILL JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS.

AND AS BY NO MEANS DO I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE VOTE ON TODAY.

OR PROHIBITION, BY THE WAY, IS ONLY ON THE SIDEWALKS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE SEAWALL.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COUNCIL JOHN? YES, YOU KNOW, I AM DEFINITELY NOT IN FAVOR OF BANNING E-BIKES OR ELECTRIC FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION ON THE SIDEWALK.

I MEAN, AND I GUESS I'LL START OUT BY SAYING OR DO WE HAVE ANY INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO KIND OF JUSTIFY A BAN OF THESE VEHICLES? I WOULD HAVE TO YIELD TO BUTCH.

AH, YES.

WE HAVE FOR THREE WEEKS AGO [INAUDIBLE] IT'S ABOUT THREE FOOT WIDE, GOES ABOUT 22 MILES AN HOUR AND PULLS OUT OF [INAUDIBLE] AND RAN OVER THE LADY WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK KNOCKED HER DOWN AND RAN OVER HER.

YOU NEVER SEE THEM COMING, YOU NEVER HEAR THEM COMING BECAUSE THEY'RE QUIET THEY'RE ELECTRIC.

AND THAT'S JUST ONE INCIDENT THAT WAS JUST HERE RECENTLY.

I'VE SEEN ELECTRIC [INAUDIBLE] ALONG ON THE SEAWALL AND TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE ARE [INAUDIBLE] THEY'RE GOING OVER 20 MILES AN HOUR WHILE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO WALK [INAUDIBLE] AND HAVE THEIR KIDS UP THERE.

AND THIS IS A DAILY EVENT UP THERE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE [INAUDIBLE] THEY'LL COME FOR YOU.

IT'S A SERIOUS SITUATION WITH THESE MOTORIZED APPARATUSES UP THERE.

[03:55:08]

OK, WELL, IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE AS THE SUMMER GOES ALONG.

I'M SURE THAT WE WILL SEE MORE ELECTRIC BIKES AND SKATEBOARDS AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE IN THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, THIS IS DEFINITELY THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING.

ELECTRIC MOTORS ARE GETTING SMALLER.

THEY'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, BATTERY, BATTERY OPERATION OR BATTERY POWER IS GETTING BETTER.

AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THIS STUFF HAPPEN.

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT IS.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BAN.

I MEAN, A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS HELPING PEOPLE AS WELL.

I MEAN, MARIE BROUGHT UP OUR SENIOR POPULATION.

YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT THAT HAVE EMAILED ME SAYING, HEY, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN BIKE.

IT'S OPEN.

YOU KNOW, I USED TO LOVE BIKING DOWN THE SEAWALL, BUT MY KNEES GOT BAD.

AND NOW THE ONLY WAY I CAN DO IT IS ON MY E-BIKE.

AND SO I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS GO AWAY BECAUSE OF THAT.

I THINK THERE IS DEFINITELY OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS ISSUE TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, THEN AN OUTRIGHT BAN ON OUR SIDEWALKS.

AND BY BY DOING THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE ALL THESE BIKES INTO LANES OF TRAFFIC.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP GOING DOWN THE SEAWALL.

THEY'RE GOING TO JUST LEGALLY RIDE IN THE LANE OF TRAFFIC.

AND YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER SLOW VEHICLE OUT THERE COMPETING WITH THE GOLF CARTS AND THE CARS AND AND ALL KINDS OF SAFETY ISSUES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE REALLY LOOK OUT IN THE FUTURE AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THE SEAWALL.

YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT BIKE LANES UP THERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WHOLE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIG CAN OF WORMS, BUT, YOU KNOW, DOING AWAY WITH OUR PARKING LANE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SEAWALL AND USING THAT MORE AS A BIKE LANE AND EXPAND OUR BASICALLY OUR PARK UP THERE, WE'D HAVE TO PUT ALL THOSE CARS SOMEWHERE OF COURSE WE'VE LOOKED AT OPTIONS THERE.

WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH GLOBAL PROCESSES AND THE WHOLE.

CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION JUST FOR PURPOSES OF EXPEDIENCY OR WE CAN'T BE THE ONLY CITY THAT HAS THIS PROBLEM.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GO UP ON THE SEAWALL ALL THE TIME.

I GET THE PROBLEM.

BUT THEN AGAIN, I'M KIND OF LIKE RICKY BOBBY.

I LIKE TO GO FAST.

SO I LIKE THESE THINGS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF TORN.

BUT WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS, IS THAT MAYBE STAFF CAN SIT BACK AND TRY TO PULL OTHER CITIES, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE THE WORLD'S LARGEST, LONGEST SIDEWALK UP THERE.

BUT LET'S LOOK AND SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING WITH THESE.

THEY HAVE TO BE PROBLEMS IN OTHER TOURIST AREAS, HAS TO BE.

SO LET'S LOOK AT WAYS OF DOING IT AND SEE WHAT ACTUALLY IS A STATE WIDE ORGANIZATION.

I'LL SEND THE LINK OVER THAT.

I'VE FOUND THAT HAS A WHOLE SET OF RULES AND REGULATIONS.

YOU CAN PULL UP WHAT EACH STATE IS DOING.

I'LL SEND THAT LINK TO YOU.

YEAH, PLEASE DO.

BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY, WE'RE THE OLDEST CITY, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP REINVENTING THE WHEEL EVEN THOUGH WE WERE HERE WHEN THE FIRST ONE CAME ABOUT.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.

YOU KNOW, I AGREE THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROLIFERATION OF THESE AND YOU CAN'T REGULATE BIKES AND NOT REGULATE BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEBODY IS JUST GOING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND BESIDES THAT, IT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, LET'S LOOK AT AND SEE HOW OTHER CITIES ARE DEALING WITH IT AND GO FROM THERE.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN WE CAN HAVE A BETTER DISCUSSION.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT DON BROUGHT THIS UP, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING GOING TO BE SOLVED IN A WORKSHOP, GUYS.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING BE SOMETHING THAT WE SOLVE IN TWO OR THREE WORKSHOPS.

LET'S LET'S LET STAFF DO THE WORK ON IT AND BRING BACK FOUR OR FIVE OPTIONS FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

MAYBE WE LEAVE IT ALONE.

BUT, JOHN, JUST JUST TO FINISH UP THERE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BRIAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WAYS TO DEAL WITH THIS.

AND IF THERE ARE CERTAIN CERTAIN ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IMMEDIATELY, THE THREE WHEEL BIKE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THREE AND A HALF FOOT WIDE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE IT'S TAKING UP HALF THE SIDEWALK.

AND THEN LET'S LOOK AT THAT ISSUE OF PEOPLE PUTTING ELECTRIC MOTORS ON SURREY'S AND THEY'RE GOING 20 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THE SIDEWALK.

LET'S LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BAN BIKES ON THE SEA WALL.

WE HAVE CHIEF HALE, CHIEF WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

NO, I'M SO TORN ON ON THIS ONE.

IT'S UNREAL.

I'M LIKE, I BELIEVE THE ELECTRIC SKATEBOARD IN THE MIDDLE AND THE RIGHT LANE OR THE LEFT LANE OF THE SEA WALL IS GOING TO HOLD UP TRAFFIC EVEN MORE.

WE'VE GOT ENOUGH ISSUES THERE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I RECOGNIZE THE DANGERS OF THESE FOLKS TRYING TO WALK AND JOG EVERY MORNING, THESE PEOPLE IMPACT.

SO I VOLUNTEERED MYSELF, BUTCH AND MS. ROBB, MAYBE JOHN, GO OUT TO MYRTLE BEACH AND A COUPLE OTHER BEACH TOWNS AND HEAVILY RESEARCHED IT, MAKE SURE WE GET EYES ON THE PLAN SO WE CAN FIX IT.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK? IF I HEAR THAT HONOLULU REALLY HAS AN ORDINANCE WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT? THERE YOU GO, BRIAN.

I JUST.

WILLIAM WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING AND THEN WE HAVE DAVID COLLINS.

BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAY SAYING, BRIAN, AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING THIS.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND.

WELL, I'LL JUST LET YOU GO THROUGH THAT.

BUT I THINK WHAT IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO COUNCIL IS DO WE WANT TO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR CERTAIN ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON OUR SEAWALL SIDEWALKS? THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BOIL DOWN TO BECAUSE MANY CITIES BAN THESE ON SIDEWALKS.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL GET SOME MORE INPUT ON THAT.

PERSONALLY, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THIS AFTERNOON TO DEFER THIS ITEM SO THAT WE CAN GIVE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS AND GET MORE INPUT FROM STAFF ON THAT.

WILLIAM, GO RIGHT AHEAD.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE POPULAR DEMAND FOR RESIDENTS TO WANT TO KEEP E-BIKES, WHICH I'M ALL FOR, IS A WINDOW WHERE IF YOU'VE GOT TO ALLOW E-BIKES, WE'VE GOT TO ALLOW THESE OTHER ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT WHERE I'M [INAUDIBLE].

THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY EXACT COMMENT THAT IF WE DO, WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO ALLOW ALL OF THEM OR NOT, BECAUSE MY THING IS, CAN WE IF WE REGULATE IT FROM NO MORE THAN TWO WHEELED VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BICYCLE TWO WHEELS.

SO IF YOU SAY THERE IS A MACHINE THAT'S BIG WITH TWO PEOPLE, THREE WHEELS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN AN E-BIKE IS MY THING.

DON DID OK, VERY GOOD.

ANY MORE THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCIL? SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS.

BRIAN, THANKS FOR THE SUGGESTION.

THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THIS, BRING BACK SOME THOUGHTS TO HOW WE NEED TO PROCEED WITH THIS.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO OUR SECOND DECISION THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY ON THAT, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

SO THANK YOU, DON.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

VERY GOOD.

LET'S MOVE.

WE'RE KIND OF WINDING OUR SCHEDULE DOWN.

THE ITEM THREE I, MARIE MENTIONED THIS MORNING, SHE AND I VISITED ON THAT PRIOR TO THE MEETING TODAY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT ITEM OFF UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING SO THAT HOPEFULLY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WILL BE WITH US.

WE WILL NEED TO VOTE ON THIS NEXT TIME.

SO PLEASE ACQUAINT YOURSELF WITH BOTH OF THESE SAMPLE ORDINANCES, IF YOU WOULD.

WE ARE NOW LOOKING TO ITEM FOUR PRESENTATIONS, REPORTS OF COUNCIL OFFICERS, BOARDS

[4. PRESENTATIONS/REPORTS OF COUNCIL, OFFICER BOARDS, AND CITY MANAGER]

AND CITY MANAGER.

DID YOU WANT TO READ JUST FOUR A, PLEASE, JANELLE? FOUR A PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION, 551.0415 THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REPORT ON ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. VERY GOOD.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT HERE.

TODAY IS OUR CITY MANAGER'S BIRTHDAY.

I WANT TO WISH BRIAN A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

THANK YOU.

THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO SPEND IT.

[LAUGHTER] YOU DON'T LOOK A DAY OVER 60.

YEAH.

AND I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU GOT YOU'RE SITTING ON TOP OF [INAUDIBLE] TOWER.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT.

I'M ACTUALLY THAT BACKGROUND IS A PICTURE TAKEN FROM MY WIFE'S OFFICE.

OH, VERY GOOD.

WELL, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

RIGHT.

YOU'RE GOING HARD THERE, BRIAN.

THANK YOU HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BRIAN.

SECOND OF ALL, COUNCIL, WE HAVE SOME PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE HAVE PUT ON OUR WORKSHOP SINCE WE ARE STILL VIRTUAL.

I HAVE PUT TOGETHER A THOUGHT ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE PROCLAMATIONS TODAY.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS.

IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THESE IN THE FUTURE, WE DON'T HAVE TO.

JANELLE, WE HAVE THREE PROCLAMATION'S JANELLE IS GOING TO PUT EACH PROCLAMATION ON THE SCREEN FOR OUR SAKE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY SAKE.

SHE WILL BE READING THE FINAL PARAGRAPHS OF THAT AND THEN WE WILL SEE IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE COMMENT THAT MAY BE ON THE LINE ON THAT THAT REPRESENTS THIS ORGANIZATION.

OUR FIRST ONE IS NATIONAL BEACH SAFETY WEEK.

JANELLE, OK, CITY OF GALVESTON PROCLAMATION.

WE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 24TH THROUGH MAY 31ST, 2021 AS NATIONAL BEACH SAFETY WEEK AND URGE ALL RESIDENTS

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USING OUR BEACHES TO ENJOY THEMSELVES AT THE BEACH THIS YEAR WHILE TAKING APPROPRIATE MEASURES TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN.

THAT'S OK.

AND I THINK WE HAVE.

IS PETER DAVIS WITH US? I DIDN'T SEE HIM ON THE LINE, MAYOR.

OK, VERY GOOD.

WELL, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS ON THE LINE WITH ANYONE THAT REPRESENTS THIS NATIONAL BEACH SAFETY WEEK, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MOVING TO THE TREE, BY THE WAY, COUNCIL, THE TREE CITY GROUP HAS RECOMMENDED TO MOVE THEIR PROCLAMATION TO A TIME WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND OUR IN-PERSON MEETINGS.

SO WE'RE TAKING THAT OFF OUR AGENDA.

JANELLE INTERNATIONAL PARENTAL ALIENATION AWARENESS DAY PROCLAMATION, PLEASE.

OK, CITY OF GALVESTON PROCLAMATION.

WE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM INTERNATIONAL PARENTAL ALIENATION AWARENESS DAY IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON IN TESTIMONY WHEREVER WITNESS BY HAND.

AND THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON THIS 22ND DAY OF APRIL, 2021.

THANK YOU, JANELLE.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROCLAMATION? I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY ANYONE ON THE LINE FOR THIS ONE.

MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND NOW MOVING TO A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, IF ANYONE I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS SEEN THE VERY NUMBER OF MIGRATORY BIRDS THAT ARE ON OUR ISLAND RIGHT NOW.

AND WHEN I WAS CONTACTED ON THIS BY THE GALVESTON ISLAND NATURE TOURISM COUNCIL, GOT WITH STAFF AND STAFF, IS ALSO PARTICIPATING THE FLIGHTS OUT NIGHTS BY CONTROLLING THE LIGHTING AT NIGHT TIME ON OUR PUBLIC BUILDINGS HERE TO HELP WITH THIS PARTICULAR CAUSE.

JANELLE, GO RIGHT AHEAD AND READ THAT, PLEASE.

CITY OF GALVESTON PROCLAMATION.

ALL GALVESTON RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO JOIN THE CITY OF GALVESTON IN HELPING PROTECT BIRDS BY TURNING UP, TURNING OFF ALL NONESSENTIAL LIGHTING IN DOWNTOWN AND BEYOND DURING THE SPRING CRITICAL BIRD MIGRATION PERIOD, WHICH IS BETWEEN 11:00 P.M.

AND 6:00 A.M.

FROM APRIL 19, 2021 UNTIL MAY 7TH 2021 IN TEXAS.

AND THEREFORE, WE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GALVESTON, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE PERIOD OF APRIL 19TH THROUGH MAY 7TH, 2021 AS LIGHTS OUT NIGHTS IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

THANK YOU, JANELLE, AND DO WE HAVE JULIANNE BROWN? JULIANNE, ARE YOU WITH US THIS AFTERNOON? I AM WITH YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT ON THIS, JULIANNE? YES, WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED THAT GALVESTON IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING SAFE PASSAGE FOR THESE MIGRATORY BIRDS.

AND WE SO APPRECIATE THE CITY'S CONTINUED EFFORTS TO MAKING GALVESTON MORE BIRD FRIENDLY.

THANK ALL OF YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE, JULIANNE.

AND GREAT.

AND IS THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS, BRIAN I WOULD IT WAS WOULD YOU MIND MAKING JUST A BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THIS COMING WEEKEND.

WE HAVE BEEN FOR SOME TIME BEEN MONITORING SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT A POTENTIAL CAR CLUB COMING TO THE ISLAND THIS WEEKEND.

THEY HAVE VISITED IN THE PAST AND IT'S A LARGE GROUP.

WE HAVE TAKEN NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS TO PREPARE FOR THIS WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL OR PUTTING OR COMPROMISING ANY OFFICER SAFETY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE WILL HAVE AS NEEDED SOME RESTRICTED PARKING ON THE SEAWALL.

WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.

WE'RE PUTTING UP ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONTROLS IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT CAN BE DEPLOYED IF NECESSARY.

WE ARE RECEIVING QUITE A LOT OF HELP FROM OTHER AGENCIES, INCLUDING GPS, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN OTHER OUT OF TOWN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, INCLUDING SOME WING SUPPORT AND OTHER THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.

WE ARE PREPARED, IN ADDITION TO US STAFFING UP WITH OUR OWN GPD OFFICERS AND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING EVERYTHING WE GOT ON THE STREET.

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CHIEF AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

WE'VE GOT PLANS PLAN A, PROBABLY A THROUGH Z FOR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WEEKLY.

WE HOPE EVERYBODY COMES THIS WEEKEND AND HAS A SAFE TIME, RESPECTS OUR RULES AND ENJOYS WHAT LOOKS LIKE IS GOING TO END UP BEING GOOD WEATHER ON SATURDAY.

SO WE'RE PREPARED FOR THAT CROWD IF AND WHEN IT DOES MATERIALIZE.

IN THE PAST, THERE'S BEEN A LOT MORE SOCIAL MEDIA ACTIVITY AROUND THIS EVENT.

WHILE IT WAS PROMOTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THERE HAS BEEN VERY LITTLE DETAIL GIVEN, AS THERE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, FOR US TO TRACK AND FOLLOW.

SO WE'RE KIND OF DOING A MULTITUDE OF PLANNING THINGS THIS TIME.

CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS? I THINK YOU HIT IT ALL HERE WITH A LOT OF FOLKS DOWN HERE.

THEY'LL BE GPD HELPING BEFORE THEY EVER GET TO THE ISLAND.

ARE THERE THINGS TO ADDRESS THERE? AND SO WE'LL BE PREPARED.

WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF PLANS.

THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE'VE HAD LAST TIME ACTUALLY WORKED WITH BOTH [INAUDIBLE] IN AND OUT OF TRAFFIC, WHICH WE'LL TRY TO CONTROL BETTER, WAS REALLY THEIR PROBLEM, NUMBER ONE.

AND NUMBER TWO, WE HAD NO ACCIDENT.

FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN IT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

NO ACCIDENTS ON THE FREEWAY OR CAUSEWAY.

AND THEY'RE STILL ONE OF THE THINGS TO GET THEM OUT OF HERE.

ONE WAS TIME AGO.

THERE WAS JUST NOWHERE TO GO.

AND WE WERE GRIDLOCKED.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE AIRPLANES IN THERE AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS OUT THERE.

WE HAVE A PROJECTION, CHIEF, HOW MANY ARE EXPECTED.

[INAUDIBLE] UNORGANIZED EVENT? BUT THERE'S NO WAY ON THE PLANET TO KNOW.

WE GOT NOBODY TO COMMUNICATE LIKE WE WOULD WITH A TICKETED EVENT.

THANK YOU CHIEF THANK YOU, BRIAN.

APPRECIATE THAT.

VERY GOOD.

AND WE ARE COMMUNICATIONS AND PETITION'S.

[5. COMMUNICATIONS AND PETITIONS]

JANELLE, DID YOU WANT TO SHOW SOMETHING ON THAT? CLAIMS TWENTY ONE DASH SEVENTEEN AND TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY TWO WERE RECEIVED BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND THOSE ARE ON THE SCREEN.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, JANELLE COUNCIL.

WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA, A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

FIRST OF ALL, JANELLE SENT OUT THIS AFTERNOON OR EXCUSE ME, EARLY THIS MORNING, SENT OUT THE WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR OUR MEETING.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE PRIOR TO OUR MEETING THIS AFTERNOON.

WE WILL FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK AT 5 P.M.

FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING.

AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS. COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

THIS HAS BEEN FOUR HOURS OF LITTLE MORE THAN FOUR HOURS OF SOME GOOD, HEALTHY DISCUSSION.

I HAD A LOT TO ACCOMPLISH AND WE WENT THROUGH IT, I THINK, VERY EFFICIENTLY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.

I AM NOW DECLARING IT IS 12:13 AND OUR WORKSHOP FOR APRIL 22ND IS ADJOURNED.



* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.